[06:15]  * shadeslayer investigates gadu gadu support
[06:16] <shadeslayer> sigh, I don't understand anything here
[06:19] <shadeslayer> whooo
[06:19] <shadeslayer> I made pidgin crash
[06:20] <shadeslayer> okayyy
[06:20] <shadeslayer> Quintasan_: what's this : http://i.imgur.com/dlXot.png
[06:21] <shadeslayer> 'Synchronize your contacts'
[06:25] <shadeslayer> Quintasan_: you'll have to make me an account on gadu gadu because translations fail
[07:37] <stefan`> hi guys, are you still looking for affected users of bug 1061073?
[07:50] <shadeslayer> stefan`: huh? 
[07:51] <shadeslayer> isn't it apparent that it's a regression in mesa?
[07:51] <shadeslayer> I can reproduce it when using mesa 9 with kwin
[07:54] <stefan`> shadeslayer: yes, it's apparent but i thought that a patch might be on the way already...
[07:54] <shadeslayer> I doubt anyone here knows how to fix mesa
[07:54] <shadeslayer> ( if they do, fix the bug!! :P )
[07:55] <shadeslayer> #ubuntu-x might be a better candidate
[08:44] <tazz> anyone still on 12.04 having ruby installed. Could you give me the ruby version ?
[08:57] <yofel_> tazz: precise has 1.8.7 and 1.9.3 
[08:57] <tazz> thanks yofel_ 
[09:25] <Saviq> debfx, hey, I've packaged QtCreator 2.6.0rc if you're interested
[09:29] <yofel_> shadeslayer: one reason why I wanted to keep it, but it seems that I was the only one
[09:29] <shadeslayer> hmm
[11:11] <jussi> agateau: ping?
[11:12] <jussi> agateau: as part of the extra mile thing, perhaps it would be relevant to make the kmix plasmoid more functional by having the plasmoid expandable instead of opening up a new "window" for the other sliders
[11:12] <jussi> ?
[11:17] <shadeslayer> tdfischer was working on kmix awesomeness
[11:17] <shadeslayer> atleast ... he had plans at Akademy
[11:18] <Riddell> jussi: porting kmix to a plasmoid is more than a final mile
[11:18] <Riddell> it's a whole big feature
[11:20] <jussi> oh :(
[11:20] <jussi> we should do it anyway :D
[11:25] <Riddell> jussi: well it's an upstream issue, UI being discussed here http://lists.kde.org/?t=133728098200001&r=1&w=2
[11:27] <shadeslayer> hah
[11:27] <shadeslayer> I read that entire thread
[11:27] <shadeslayer> so much flame
[11:31] <jussi> all I needed to read is Haralds answer - he is so eloquent :)
[11:31] <jussi> apachelogger: +++
[11:46] <apachelogger> Riddell, jussi, agateau: one should not touch kmix at this point
[11:46] <jussi> apachelogger: ok
[11:46] <apachelogger> it is being rewritten and at the same it is nto being rewritten and it is being moved out of kdemultimedia and at the same time not moved out of kdemultimedia ... :P
[11:46] <jussi> apachelogger: a good confusing answer if I ever saw one! :D
[11:47] <apachelogger> that's kmix for you
[11:57] <yofel_> still
[11:57] <yofel_> apachelogger++
[12:31] <agateau> apachelogger: sounds like it is in good hands ant at the same time not in good hands!
[12:50] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[16:32] <yofel> kubotu: newversion calligra 2.5.90 ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/unstable/calligra-2.5.90/
[16:32] <soee> can you tell me if kdevelop is any good for php ?
[16:32] <kubotu> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1070436
[16:42] <hayalci> Hi. I'm setting up a mirror for kubuntu ISOs. How can the mirror be listed in the download page ?
[18:00] <BluesKaj> BBL
[19:18] <maco> what's that debian.org site where you can look up a package, and it tells you what versions are in each debian release and ubuntu release?
[19:42] <shadeslayer> maco: packages.debian.org 
[19:43] <maco> shadeslayer: jibel got it in #ubuntu-devel, packages.qa.debian.org
[19:43] <shadeslayer> ah ok
[19:43] <maco> i called it "the pink site" and confused slangasek
[19:44] <shadeslayer> lol
[19:45] <shadeslayer> I just call it PTS
[19:46] <shadeslayer> but the pink site also works :P
[22:00] <genii-around> Will ninjas repository include raring soon?
[22:03] <JontheEchidna> what would be in such a repo?
[22:05] <maco> i think i just did my first debdiff in 2 years
[22:07] <genii-around> JontheEchidna: I imagine the work that came after the 12.10 freeze
[22:09] <JontheEchidna> there's not been a KDE release since the freeze though...
[22:10] <JontheEchidna> and in between the freeze and now most effort has been on getting 12.10 ready for release
[22:11] <genii-around> Ah, OK. Just that I noticed there is already a raring repository now on the main archive.ubuntu.com now, was just curious.
[22:12] <JontheEchidna> the ubuntu core guys are still getting the toolchain ready, raring isn't quite open yet
[22:30] <Riddell> maco: welcome back :)
[22:30] <maco> Riddell: there's a security patch for software that is running on my server, and it hasn't made it into ubuntu's repos
[22:31] <maco> my test build of the patch is now on my server :)
[22:31] <maco> i'll probably also make a backport of python-django 1.4.1 to precise because my server's on precise and wah i want the new features
[22:32] <maco> (elseif, finally! do you know how annoying it is to  {%if%}{%else%}{%if%}{%else%}{%endif%}{%endif%}
[22:32] <maco> )
[22:33] <maco> this doesn't mean you're getting me back for much-time though :P
[22:33] <maco> i have gone off to django-based-webapp land
[22:39] <Riddell> maco: is {%if%}{%else%}... django language?
[22:39] <maco> for its templates, yeah
[22:40] <maco> django's written in python, but then you can send variables from the backendy code to the html templates, which use that {% %} syntax mixed into the html to determine what html gets sent to the browser
[22:41] <Riddell> maco: is it better than drupal?
[22:41] <maco> so {% if variable %}<a href="{{variable}}">link</a>{%else%}Sorry, no link available{%endif%}
[22:41] <maco> thats apples to oranges
[22:41] <maco> drupal competes with joomla and wordpress
[22:42] <maco> django competes with ruby on rails or zope
[22:42] <maco> or plone
[22:42] <maco> i dont think there's any longer any actual competition between django, zope, and plone
[22:42] <maco> but they at least aim for the same space
[22:44] <Riddell> maco: because django has won?
[22:44] <Riddell> or because they're different
[22:44] <maco> i think it won
[22:44] <maco> django is the one that is most pythonic
[22:44] <maco> i forget whether it was zope or plone that was described as being python written by java programmers
[22:45] <maco> i should disappear from interwebs now though
[22:45] <maco> also you should go to bed
[22:45] <maco> later
[22:45] <Riddell> yes indeed, night
[23:20] <micahg> maco: if you want to hijack Bug #1010572 and test the rdeps, I'll be happy to upload it to precise-backports for everyone
[23:20] <micahg> (and modify it for 1.4.1-2)