=== shumski is now known as shumski_away === jtechidna is now known as JontheEchidna [06:15] * shadeslayer investigates gadu gadu support [06:16] sigh, I don't understand anything here [06:19] whooo [06:19] I made pidgin crash [06:20] okayyy [06:20] Quintasan_: what's this : http://i.imgur.com/dlXot.png [06:21] 'Synchronize your contacts' [06:25] Quintasan_: you'll have to make me an account on gadu gadu because translations fail [07:37] hi guys, are you still looking for affected users of bug 1061073? [07:37] Launchpad bug 1061073 in mesa (Ubuntu) "Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1061073 [07:50] stefan`: huh? [07:51] isn't it apparent that it's a regression in mesa? [07:51] I can reproduce it when using mesa 9 with kwin [07:54] shadeslayer: yes, it's apparent but i thought that a patch might be on the way already... [07:54] I doubt anyone here knows how to fix mesa [07:54] ( if they do, fix the bug!! :P ) [07:55] #ubuntu-x might be a better candidate [08:44] anyone still on 12.04 having ruby installed. Could you give me the ruby version ? [08:57] tazz: precise has 1.8.7 and 1.9.3 [08:57] thanks yofel_ [09:25] debfx, hey, I've packaged QtCreator 2.6.0rc if you're interested [09:29] shadeslayer: one reason why I wanted to keep it, but it seems that I was the only one [09:29] hmm [11:11] agateau: ping? [11:12] agateau: as part of the extra mile thing, perhaps it would be relevant to make the kmix plasmoid more functional by having the plasmoid expandable instead of opening up a new "window" for the other sliders [11:12] ? [11:17] tdfischer was working on kmix awesomeness [11:17] atleast ... he had plans at Akademy [11:18] jussi: porting kmix to a plasmoid is more than a final mile [11:18] it's a whole big feature [11:20] oh :( [11:20] we should do it anyway :D [11:25] jussi: well it's an upstream issue, UI being discussed here http://lists.kde.org/?t=133728098200001&r=1&w=2 [11:27] hah [11:27] I read that entire thread [11:27] so much flame [11:31] all I needed to read is Haralds answer - he is so eloquent :) [11:31] apachelogger: +++ [11:46] Riddell, jussi, agateau: one should not touch kmix at this point [11:46] apachelogger: ok [11:46] it is being rewritten and at the same it is nto being rewritten and it is being moved out of kdemultimedia and at the same time not moved out of kdemultimedia ... :P [11:46] apachelogger: a good confusing answer if I ever saw one! :D [11:47] that's kmix for you [11:57] still [11:57] apachelogger++ [12:31] apachelogger: sounds like it is in good hands ant at the same time not in good hands! === shumski is now known as shumski_away [12:50] Hey all === yofel_ is now known as yofel === shumski_away is now known as shumski [16:32] kubotu: newversion calligra 2.5.90 ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/unstable/calligra-2.5.90/ [16:32] can you tell me if kdevelop is any good for php ? [16:32] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1070436 === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [16:42] Hi. I'm setting up a mirror for kubuntu ISOs. How can the mirror be listed in the download page ? === ejat- is now known as ejat === e-jat_ is now known as e-jat [18:00] BBL [19:18] what's that debian.org site where you can look up a package, and it tells you what versions are in each debian release and ubuntu release? === dpm_ is now known as dpm [19:42] maco: packages.debian.org [19:43] shadeslayer: jibel got it in #ubuntu-devel, packages.qa.debian.org [19:43] ah ok [19:43] i called it "the pink site" and confused slangasek [19:44] lol [19:45] I just call it PTS [19:46] but the pink site also works :P [22:00] Will ninjas repository include raring soon? [22:03] what would be in such a repo? [22:05] i think i just did my first debdiff in 2 years [22:07] JontheEchidna: I imagine the work that came after the 12.10 freeze [22:09] there's not been a KDE release since the freeze though... [22:10] and in between the freeze and now most effort has been on getting 12.10 ready for release [22:11] Ah, OK. Just that I noticed there is already a raring repository now on the main archive.ubuntu.com now, was just curious. [22:12] the ubuntu core guys are still getting the toolchain ready, raring isn't quite open yet === shumski is now known as shumski_away [22:30] maco: welcome back :) [22:30] Riddell: there's a security patch for software that is running on my server, and it hasn't made it into ubuntu's repos [22:31] my test build of the patch is now on my server :) [22:31] i'll probably also make a backport of python-django 1.4.1 to precise because my server's on precise and wah i want the new features [22:32] (elseif, finally! do you know how annoying it is to {%if%}{%else%}{%if%}{%else%}{%endif%}{%endif%} [22:32] ) [22:33] this doesn't mean you're getting me back for much-time though :P [22:33] i have gone off to django-based-webapp land [22:39] maco: is {%if%}{%else%}... django language? [22:39] for its templates, yeah [22:40] django's written in python, but then you can send variables from the backendy code to the html templates, which use that {% %} syntax mixed into the html to determine what html gets sent to the browser [22:41] maco: is it better than drupal? [22:41] so {% if variable %}link{%else%}Sorry, no link available{%endif%} [22:41] thats apples to oranges [22:41] drupal competes with joomla and wordpress [22:42] django competes with ruby on rails or zope [22:42] or plone [22:42] i dont think there's any longer any actual competition between django, zope, and plone [22:42] but they at least aim for the same space [22:44] maco: because django has won? [22:44] or because they're different [22:44] i think it won [22:44] django is the one that is most pythonic [22:44] i forget whether it was zope or plone that was described as being python written by java programmers [22:45] i should disappear from interwebs now though [22:45] also you should go to bed [22:45] later [22:45] yes indeed, night [23:20] maco: if you want to hijack Bug #1010572 and test the rdeps, I'll be happy to upload it to precise-backports for everyone [23:20] Launchpad bug 1010572 in Precise Backports "Please backport python-django 1.4-1 (main) from quantal" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1010572 [23:20] (and modify it for 1.4.1-2)