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pittiGood morning03:32
jasoncwarner_morning everyone!06:58
RAOFAloha!06:58
jasoncwarner_hey RAOF ! how are things?06:58
RAOFPretty good.06:58
RAOFJust getting down to some xserver hacking.06:59
jasoncwarner_RAOF: saw the nexus running ubuntu! super awesome :)06:59
* desrt is wondering if he should make the jump...06:59
RAOFYeah; and it turns out you only need to disable some nux functionality that Unity doesn't use!07:00
jasoncwarner_desrt: DO IT!07:04
RAOFdesrt: To Quantal? You're not already there? :P07:05
desrtto ubuntu on my nexus 7...07:05
desrti've been on quantal for months :p07:05
RAOFYeah, I though so.07:06
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pgranerRAOF, I'm getting consistent segfaults in X just moving windows around on 12.10 running in KVM      http://paste.ubuntu.com/1299571/08:41
pgranerRAOF, have you seen this one before?08:41
didrocksRAOF: hey!08:42
* RAOF feels popular08:56
RAOFdidrocks: Yo!08:56
RAOFpgraner: I've not seen that one before; you should have an apport bug to report though, which will get it retraced. Looks like it's a bug in xf86-video-cirrus.08:57
didrocksRAOF: you are popular indeed :) (but I'm interested TBH :p) did you see that there is a long awaiting super awesome unity/compiz/all the world upload waiting desperatly for being approved in -proposed09:04
kenvandineUrsinha, can you add some packages to your gravity report?09:05
RAOFdidrocks: I have not seen that, but I'll get to it when I do my SRU sweep tomorrow morning!09:05
didrocksRAOF: that is excellent! thanks :)09:06
didrocksjasoncwarner_: FYI ^09:06
jasoncwarner_thanks, didrocks and RAOF09:06
Laneymmm SRUs09:09
Laneya sign to dist-upgrade to raring if there ever was one ;-)09:10
* mlankhorst still on precise!09:15
pgranerRAOF, apport never triggered :(09:41
pgranerRAOF, so it left a X crash in /var/crash, I'll file a bug with it09:42
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jasoncwarner_hey pitti , around? Have an apport issue.10:50
pittihey jasoncwarner_10:51
jasoncwarner_hey pitti ! hey, here at the ps sprint and I have seen this a couple of times from various people (I've experienced it myself) pgraner got it as well. basically, apport seems to crash when trying to report a bug. don't have much more information b/c it doesn't seem to create a crash file or anything10:52
pittijasoncwarner_: what you can try is to run it again using "ubuntu-bug /var/crash/..." on the file that it previously tried to report10:53
pittijasoncwarner_: this should at least give some error on the terminal10:53
jasoncwarner_pitti: did that and it just ended. no crash file and didn't report it either. didrocks saw it so I'm not crazy ;)10:53
jasoncwarner_nothing was outputed in the terminal either10:54
pittijasoncwarner_: so when did it crash?10:54
pittijasoncwarner_: were you trying to report a crash or a bug?10:54
pittijasoncwarner_: what did you see exactly?10:54
jasoncwarner_pitti: the bug was in gwibber daemon. apport window popped up, clicked continue and it did nothing (went away etc)10:55
jasoncwarner_then tried ubuntu-bug at command line, it just returned (no output on terminal)10:55
pittijasoncwarner_: sounds fine to me :)10:55
jasoncwarner_kenvandine: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gwibber/+bug/107028610:56
ubot2Launchpad bug 1070286 in gwibber (Ubuntu) "Gwibber Daemon crash, lens issue" [Undecided,New]10:56
pittijasoncwarner_: that's what it should look like in a stable release, where we only send bugs to errors.u.c., not to LP10:56
didrockspitti: I think that jasoncwarner_ and pgraner are talking about apport (the ui) itself crashing10:57
pittididrocks: yes, but I need to know how; I have a hunch that it's behaving as expected10:57
pittiwhat jasoncwarner_ described above is the correct behaviour10:58
didrockspgraner told that the apport ui was crashing, then apport triggers again for reading the stacktrace and so on and so on…10:58
didrockspitti: yeah, I'm not sure he got a crash, let me check in a sec10:58
pittithat sounds like something different then, thuogh10:58
pittiif you get a .crash for apport itself, please send it to me10:58
jasoncwarner_pitti: ah, ok...no .crash file so you are probably right10:59
didrockspitti: yeah, he has no crash file10:59
didrocksso different from pgraner's :)10:59
jasoncwarner_we'll wait for errors.u.c to update and look10:59
jasoncwarner_thanks, pitti !10:59
pittijasoncwarner_: you can check at: firefox http://errors.ubuntu.com/user/`printf $(sudo cat /sys/class/dmi/id/product_uuid)|sha512sum10:59
pittierr, missing tail `10:59
pittijasoncwarner_: those are the crash reports that you sent11:00
pittipgraner: ^11:00
didrockspitti: the list seems not to be ordered11:02
pittino, it's not (ev knows about this)11:03
pittiit shuold also show you the package/program11:03
didrockspitti: you need to click on them to see that11:04
didrocksquite not handy when you have tons of them :)11:05
pittiyes, I know11:05
pittiev might know a better way, I don't unfortunately11:05
jasoncwarner_kenvandine: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/107029611:10
ubot2Launchpad bug 1070296 in unity (Ubuntu) "Need a way to tell activity is happening in (Gwibber) Lens" [Undecided,New]11:10
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chrisccoulsontmux, WHY U SO SLOW????14:02
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cyphermoxchrisccoulson: ? runs fine here?14:17
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* Laney is still ridin' high on GNU screen15:12
chrisccoulsonYESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS, STEAK!15:19
LaneyI was confused15:21
Laneythen I got email15:21
Laneynow I am hungry15:21
chrisccoulsonperhaps i'll need to bring 1 pair of oversize trousers and an oversize t-shirt with me, just for the team dinner15:24
mdeslaursuicide by team dinner15:25
chrisccoulsonlol @ Sweetshark ;)15:25
chrisccoulson"Do they also have fish or vegan food for Jason?"15:25
chrisccoulsonheh :)15:25
gemahi guys, I have having trouble to run konsole from the launcher, is it just me?15:31
jasoncwarner_chrisccoulson: oh, you think that's funny? you should have see me at lunch today...epic meat was eaten15:31
chrisccoulsonheh, i'm jealous now ;)15:31
seb128kenvandine, didrocks, chrisccoulson, Ursinha, Laney, mlankhorst, cyphermox, mterry, tkamppeter, robru: it's meeting time, if anyone has a topic (none on the wiki so far), also please update https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Meeting/2012-10-23 with things you worked on this week for those who didn't write anything yet15:35
seb128hey from Copenhagen btw ;-)15:36
cyphermoxseb128: hey15:36
cyphermoxhow is it?15:36
cyphermoxcold?15:36
mvohey seb12815:36
mterryseb128, hi15:36
mterryseb128, that wiki page doesn't even exist yet15:36
seb128not cold15:36
chrisccoulsonseb128, has anyone turned up in shorts yet? ;)15:36
mterrySo I'm guessing not much to talk about  :)15:37
seb128mterry, yeah, I just arrived there like 1 hour ago, was offline travelling today15:37
seb128mterry, right, after release I guess not :p15:37
* cyphermox is having happy fun time going through NM patches to make daily builds work again15:38
seb128chrisccoulson, not yet ;-)15:38
chrisccoulsoncyphermox, i feel your pain ;)15:38
cyphermoxchrisccoulson:  ;)15:38
cyphermoxit's not too too bad, but some of the patches look like they need to be brought out to a back alley and shot.15:38
LaneyI refuse to believe we would ever ship a bad patch15:39
cyphermox;)15:40
cyphermoxupstreaming with extreme prejudice.15:41
Laney:>15:41
Laneyare you upstream at NM?15:41
cyphermoxnm and nm-applet15:41
cyphermoxoh wait15:41
cyphermoxI'm not upstream no15:41
cyphermoxbut no big issues with sending patches and having them accepted15:42
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dupondjeGot a really strange issue with LightDM, sometimes when I boot, I see the console cursor on tty7 (trough the lightdm window). If I then switch to tty1 for example, I still see lightdm visible (only partly)16:50
dupondjeIs this a known bug or?16:51
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gemaI have problems starting konsole from unity, I raised bug 107512, please let me know which logs you need19:27
ubot2Launchpad bug 107512 in Ubuntu "firefox causes system to return to GDM" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/10751219:27
gemawrong bug number, bug 107051219:28
ubot2Launchpad bug 1070512 in unity (Ubuntu) "The launcher in unity won't start konsole" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107051219:28
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attentedesrt: ping20:51
jdstranddesrt: hey, assuming you are going to be at UDS (I thought I remembered you said you would be), I took the liberty of marking your participation essential in https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/security-r-app-gsettings (based on our conversation from several weeks (months?) ago21:05
jdstranddesrt: is that a session you can (and want to) attend?21:05
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desrtjdstrand: yes.  of course.22:51
desrti'm in copenhagen already, btw22:51
desrtattente: pong22:51
jdstranddesrt: great, thanks! :)22:51
* jdstrand heads out22:52
attentedesrt: i'm getting a crash on menubar re-realization :(22:52
desrttricky.22:53
desrti'm about to go to bed, unfortunately :(22:53
attenteah, right22:54
attenteit's like some ungodly hour there22:54
desrt122:54
desrtg'night22:56
attenteg'nite22:59
doomlordis it possible to make clicking on the taskbar icon show windows of an app from *all* desktops instead of just the current one.. i think its a useful option, you can search by app or by desktop23:26
RAOFSomeone's uploaded an SRU for geary? Really?23:30
jbichaRAOF: I guess seb128 really cares about it, I wonder if he uses it23:36
RAOFIt's pretty neat, but it's really, really rough.23:37
mlankhorstnot the point :P23:37
RAOFVala question: is adding an extra checked exception to a method declaration an ABI break?23:43

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