| phillw | good morning smartboyhw | 02:20 |
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| smartboyhw | Hey phillw | 02:20 |
| phillw | I hope life is treating you better than it is me for my piglet! | 02:21 |
| smartboyhw | phillw, LOL | 02:22 |
| dholbach | good morning | 07:07 |
| jibel | good morning dholbach | 07:08 |
| dholbach | hey jibel :) | 07:09 |
| dholbach | pitti, Aron replied on the libxml2 autopkgtest patch - to get it into Debian he asked me to add a python test case as well :-) | 07:10 |
| dholbach | not quite the answer I expected, but I was happy to oblige :) | 07:10 |
| pitti | dholbach: hah | 07:11 |
| pitti | dholbach: (bah, static bindings!) | 07:11 |
| dholbach | so I hope we have it in sync soon :) | 07:11 |
| pitti | sounds great | 07:11 |
| pitti | dholbach: thanks for adding this! | 07:11 |
| dholbach | no worries :) | 07:13 |
| dholbach | pitti, I added some more info to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/RequiredTests - do you think we should be more explicit for example in the case of functionality tests? | 07:18 |
| pitti | dholbach: hm, right now those do not have any tests, so pretty much everything helps | 07:19 |
| dholbach | hum hum | 07:19 |
| pitti | I mean exercising the most common use cases; for each individual project this seems rather obvious, do you think it's not? | 07:19 |
| dholbach | I'll try to think of a good way to put that | 07:19 |
| dholbach | you know, something else than "do whatever you want" :-P | 07:19 |
| pitti | something like "Exercise the most common functionality and workflow"? | 07:20 |
| dholbach | yeah, sounds good | 07:20 |
| dholbach | :-( | 07:20 |
| dholbach | :-) | 07:20 |
| pitti | and perhaps a d-conf example, "check reading, writing of schema keys, handling of invalid values for types, and schema creation/compilation" | 07:21 |
| dholbach | will add | 07:21 |
| pitti | or for the file lens, "create a temporary home directory with some files, and check that these files are found" | 07:21 |
| pitti | (but that falls into the "rather obvious" category, I would think) | 07:21 |
| dholbach | perfect | 07:22 |
| Noskcaj | can someone please finish this testcase http://packages.qa.dev.stgraber.org/admin/config/services/qatracker/testcases/1340/edit it cant go any further on my g4 | 08:13 |
| smartboyhw | Noskcaj, OK I can | 08:15 |
| smartboyhw | Noskcaj, so what do you want me to add? | 08:15 |
| smartboyhw | BTW Noskcaj welcome to the testcase admins team:D | 08:16 |
| Noskcaj | smartboyhw: thanks, the bit at the very bottom(selecting the desktop environment), i think the testcase can be uploaded(slightly modified) for all desktop architectures | 08:17 |
| smartboyhw | Noskcaj, so you mean that how can people install their favorite desktop environment like Ubuntu And Lubuntu am I right? | 08:18 |
| Noskcaj | yes, my mac bugs out before loading the command prompt after installing(just after restart) | 08:19 |
| smartboyhw | Noskcaj, so you mean "After the base system is installed, log in, and type "sudo tasksel" to select the system to install." | 08:21 |
| Noskcaj | yeah, that stuff | 08:23 |
| smartboyhw | Noskcaj, OK I will do it now | 08:23 |
| Noskcaj | thanks | 08:23 |
| Noskcaj | how is it that all ubuntu irc channels have an op except this one | 09:29 |
| smartboyhw | Hmm there is no ChanServ here weird | 09:44 |
| dholbach | smartboyhw, the folks in #ubuntu-irc should be able to help out | 09:45 |
| smartboyhw | dholbach, as it turns out: #ubuntu-irc doesn't have ChanServ too | 09:47 |
| dholbach | I don't know where it's required or not | 09:47 |
| dholbach | but the people in there are knowledgeable and should know how to set things up | 09:47 |
| smartboyhw | Some do, some not. Maybe I should just forget about ht eissue | 09:47 |
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| pitti | gema, dholbach: just saw your current UDS testing slides | 12:38 |
| dholbach | yes, the first couple of slides and the two last ones would be the ones Nick and I use | 12:38 |
| pitti | gema, dholbach: so at the slide with "upstream testing", I'll do my blurb? | 12:38 |
| pitti | shall I just add a couple of slides? most of my talk will be actual talking, as there's not much to screenshot there, but I might have a few | 12:39 |
| dholbach | pitti, yeah, feel free to add more slides - I think I'll remove the one that says "autopkgtest" as you'll likely talk about that anyway :) | 12:40 |
| pitti | dholbach: leave it there for now as a reminder | 12:40 |
| dholbach | ok | 12:40 |
| dholbach | perfect | 12:40 |
| dholbach | <3 | 12:40 |
| pitti | dholbach: but I can talk about it, sure | 12:40 |
| dholbach | awesome | 12:41 |
| * dholbach goes back to scheduling craziness | 12:41 | |
| pitti | dholbach: oh, hmm -- I can haz edit? | 12:41 |
| gema | dholbach: what is that autopilot training stuff? | 12:42 |
| gema | dholbach: is mmrazik taking care of that bit? | 12:42 |
| dholbach | pitti, done | 12:42 |
| dholbach | gema, yes, Nick talked to him | 12:42 |
| mmrazik | ack | 12:42 |
| dholbach | Nick is on holidays now | 12:42 |
| gema | dholbach: ack, I will make sure I attend | 12:42 |
| dholbach | :-) | 12:42 |
| dholbach | wow - everything's like old machinery in here! | 12:42 |
| dholbach | errr | 12:42 |
| dholbach | well-oiled | 12:43 |
| dholbach | excuse me :) | 12:43 |
| gema | ha-ha | 12:43 |
| pitti | dholbach, gema: for chronological order, and to better explain the upstream bits, it would be better to talk about autopkgtest first; ok for you if I swap the slides? | 12:43 |
| * gema feels old now | 12:43 | |
| * dholbach hugs gema | 12:43 | |
| * dholbach hugs gema | 12:43 | |
| * dholbach hugs gema | 12:43 | |
| * dholbach hugs gema | 12:43 | |
| * dholbach hugs gema | 12:43 | |
| gema | thanks dholbach ! | 12:43 |
| * gema hugs dholbach :D | 12:43 | |
| dholbach | sorry about that - that was my personal reminder to get another coffee | 12:43 |
| dholbach | must be post-lunch :-) | 12:43 |
| smartboyhw | dholbach, wow too passionate hugging 5 times;P | 12:43 |
| dholbach | pitti, sure sure | 12:43 |
| * pitti turns some squeaking gears | 12:43 | |
| gema | pitti: go for it, you have a solid amount of minutes (8) that you can use however you want | 12:43 |
| gema | pitti: that's an eternity at a plenary | 12:44 |
| gema | :D | 12:44 |
| pitti | gema, dholbach: so, 8 mins for autopkgtest + upstream, right? (that's more than enough for an overview) | 12:44 |
| gema | 8*500 people...mmmhhh... 4000 minutes | 12:44 |
| dholbach | I think you'd share some time with mmrazik | 12:44 |
| dholbach | Nick and I are "just" going to take the first 5 minutes for some very general overview and the last 2 for announcements | 12:44 |
| pitti | ack | 12:45 |
| dholbach | the rest will be all yours to show the awesomeness everyone has been missing out on | 12:45 |
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| gema | dholbach: you say it as if there is much left :P | 12:46 |
| smartboyhw | lol | 12:46 |
| dholbach | gema: want to haggle? :) | 12:47 |
| gema | dholbach: haha, I will leave that to pitti | 12:47 |
| dholbach | gema, I wanted 15 minutes for my own - I have to feed wife, children and grandchildren! | 12:47 |
| gema | it works better between germans :P | 12:47 |
| dholbach | gema, what do you expect me to do? | 12:47 |
| dholbach | gema, I already gave you a discount? | 12:47 |
| gema | hahaha | 12:47 |
| pitti | dholbach: so we need to set up that sparring, you throwing paper bugs at me and I fend them off with my jenkins bat? | 12:48 |
| * gema feels like buying pijamas, now | 12:48 | |
| dholbach | I can try to talk Nick into speeding it up a little bit, we'll both be there a bit earlier on Sunday | 12:48 |
| dholbach | pitti, haha, that'd be very funny | 12:48 |
| dholbach | alright, time to walk the dog, brb | 12:52 |
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| pitti | dholbach, gema: ugh, 13 minutes at first try, I'll trim a bit :) | 13:32 |
| dholbach | pitti, I'm sure we'll work it out one way or another | 13:44 |
| pitti | ok, 9:30, almost there :) | 13:47 |
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| roadmr | this is probably the dumbest question I've ever asked :/ how do I install proprietary drivers on Ubuntu 12.10? | 15:30 |
| holstein | roadmr: i just install the packages i need... under "software sources" there is a tab for "additional drivers" which has worked ok fo me in my testing | 15:31 |
| holstein | !ati | 15:31 |
| ubot5 | For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto | 15:31 |
| holstein | !nvidia | 15:31 |
| roadmr | holstein: oh ok, I'll look there. It's not too obvious to me but that may be because I'm biased towards being offered the drivers and/or having a very prominent jockey icon | 15:32 |
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| holstein | roadmr: sure, and just remember, theres is nothing about ubuntu/linux that keeps the manufacturer of your graphics chip from allowing the hardware to be supported "out of the box" | 15:33 |
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| roadmr | hello again folks, wondering if anyone else is having trouble installing proprietary drivers on 12.10 due to linux-headers-generic not being installed by default | 16:39 |
| patdk-wk | hmm, headers have never been installed by default, I didn't think, or atleast, never on mine | 16:39 |
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| jackson_ | phillw: is the netboot testcase ready for upload, smartboyhw and i are finished | 19:42 |
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| Noskcaj | sorry, xchat changed my name | 19:45 |
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| phillw | Noskcaj: ask wxl to have a quick look over it. It's handy to have another PPC person check the logic :) | 21:04 |
| wxl | i will when i get a new adapter, phillw / Noskcaj | 21:07 |
| Noskcaj | ok, i can be used for any desktop architecture though phillw | 21:07 |
| phillw | I'm just pullingin grub-rescue CD | 21:07 |
| Noskcaj | *it | 21:07 |
| Noskcaj | i made that one too | 21:08 |
| Noskcaj | i think | 21:08 |
| phillw | Noskcaj: great! Test cases not too scary. We have a whole suite to write for lubuntu (lxde) applications. Julien (our head of dev) has made a start. After UDS, Nicholas will convert them into the 'new' style and we can get to work on them. | 21:17 |
| Noskcaj | i might start on one of them this-afternoon but now School :( | 21:18 |
| Noskcaj | afk | 21:19 |
| phillw | Noskcaj: enjoy!! | 21:19 |
| phillw | wxl: one of my hard drives decided it is unhappy with life. I've had to back it up & reformat. Trouble is that grub got a little over excited and decided to also write itself to my 2nd hard drive, which uses grub legacy and my 'working' system no longer boots :/# | 21:21 |
| wxl | doh, not fun phillw | 21:21 |
| wxl | you got it figured out? | 21:21 |
| phillw | I'm going to put grub2 onto it - just downloading the grub rescue iso now. | 21:21 |
| wxl | good | 21:21 |
| phillw | well, Ihope so... CentOS still runs the old grub. Not sure what will happen when I update the kernel in future - I could be opening up a whole can of worms :/ | 21:23 |
| phillw | disappointed that the 'I'll put grub where I want' bug still exists... But, such is life. | 21:24 |
| phillw | oooh.. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-20040549 | 21:27 |
| phillw | looks interesting! | 21:27 |
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