[02:20] good morning smartboyhw [02:20] Hey phillw [02:21] I hope life is treating you better than it is me for my piglet! [02:22] phillw, LOL [07:07] good morning [07:08] good morning dholbach [07:09] hey jibel :) [07:10] pitti, Aron replied on the libxml2 autopkgtest patch - to get it into Debian he asked me to add a python test case as well :-) [07:10] not quite the answer I expected, but I was happy to oblige :) [07:11] dholbach: hah [07:11] dholbach: (bah, static bindings!) [07:11] so I hope we have it in sync soon :) [07:11] sounds great [07:11] dholbach: thanks for adding this! [07:13] no worries :) [07:18] pitti, I added some more info to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/RequiredTests - do you think we should be more explicit for example in the case of functionality tests? [07:19] dholbach: hm, right now those do not have any tests, so pretty much everything helps [07:19] hum hum [07:19] I mean exercising the most common use cases; for each individual project this seems rather obvious, do you think it's not? [07:19] I'll try to think of a good way to put that [07:19] you know, something else than "do whatever you want" :-P [07:20] something like "Exercise the most common functionality and workflow"? [07:20] yeah, sounds good [07:20] :-( [07:20] :-) [07:21] and perhaps a d-conf example, "check reading, writing of schema keys, handling of invalid values for types, and schema creation/compilation" [07:21] will add [07:21] or for the file lens, "create a temporary home directory with some files, and check that these files are found" [07:21] (but that falls into the "rather obvious" category, I would think) [07:22] perfect [08:13] can someone please finish this testcase http://packages.qa.dev.stgraber.org/admin/config/services/qatracker/testcases/1340/edit it cant go any further on my g4 [08:15] Noskcaj, OK I can [08:15] Noskcaj, so what do you want me to add? [08:16] BTW Noskcaj welcome to the testcase admins team:D [08:17] smartboyhw: thanks, the bit at the very bottom(selecting the desktop environment), i think the testcase can be uploaded(slightly modified) for all desktop architectures [08:18] Noskcaj, so you mean that how can people install their favorite desktop environment like Ubuntu And Lubuntu am I right? [08:19] yes, my mac bugs out before loading the command prompt after installing(just after restart) [08:21] Noskcaj, so you mean "After the base system is installed, log in, and type "sudo tasksel" to select the system to install." [08:23] yeah, that stuff [08:23] Noskcaj, OK I will do it now [08:23] thanks [09:29] how is it that all ubuntu irc channels have an op except this one [09:44] Hmm there is no ChanServ here weird [09:45] smartboyhw, the folks in #ubuntu-irc should be able to help out [09:47] dholbach, as it turns out: #ubuntu-irc doesn't have ChanServ too [09:47] I don't know where it's required or not [09:47] but the people in there are knowledgeable and should know how to set things up [09:47] Some do, some not. Maybe I should just forget about ht eissue === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === _salem is now known as salem_ === fader_` is now known as fader_ [12:38] gema, dholbach: just saw your current UDS testing slides [12:38] yes, the first couple of slides and the two last ones would be the ones Nick and I use [12:38] gema, dholbach: so at the slide with "upstream testing", I'll do my blurb? [12:39] shall I just add a couple of slides? most of my talk will be actual talking, as there's not much to screenshot there, but I might have a few [12:40] pitti, yeah, feel free to add more slides - I think I'll remove the one that says "autopkgtest" as you'll likely talk about that anyway :) [12:40] dholbach: leave it there for now as a reminder [12:40] ok [12:40] perfect [12:40] <3 [12:40] dholbach: but I can talk about it, sure [12:41] awesome [12:41] * dholbach goes back to scheduling craziness [12:41] dholbach: oh, hmm -- I can haz edit? [12:42] dholbach: what is that autopilot training stuff? [12:42] dholbach: is mmrazik taking care of that bit? [12:42] pitti, done [12:42] gema, yes, Nick talked to him [12:42] ack [12:42] Nick is on holidays now [12:42] dholbach: ack, I will make sure I attend [12:42] :-) [12:42] wow - everything's like old machinery in here! [12:42] errr [12:43] well-oiled [12:43] excuse me :) [12:43] ha-ha [12:43] dholbach, gema: for chronological order, and to better explain the upstream bits, it would be better to talk about autopkgtest first; ok for you if I swap the slides? [12:43] * gema feels old now [12:43] * dholbach hugs gema [12:43] * dholbach hugs gema [12:43] * dholbach hugs gema [12:43] * dholbach hugs gema [12:43] * dholbach hugs gema [12:43] thanks dholbach ! [12:43] * gema hugs dholbach :D [12:43] sorry about that - that was my personal reminder to get another coffee [12:43] must be post-lunch :-) [12:43] dholbach, wow too passionate hugging 5 times;P [12:43] pitti, sure sure [12:43] * pitti turns some squeaking gears [12:43] pitti: go for it, you have a solid amount of minutes (8) that you can use however you want [12:44] pitti: that's an eternity at a plenary [12:44] :D [12:44] gema, dholbach: so, 8 mins for autopkgtest + upstream, right? (that's more than enough for an overview) [12:44] 8*500 people...mmmhhh... 4000 minutes [12:44] I think you'd share some time with mmrazik [12:44] Nick and I are "just" going to take the first 5 minutes for some very general overview and the last 2 for announcements [12:45] ack [12:45] the rest will be all yours to show the awesomeness everyone has been missing out on === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [12:46] dholbach: you say it as if there is much left :P [12:46] lol [12:47] gema: want to haggle? :) [12:47] dholbach: haha, I will leave that to pitti [12:47] gema, I wanted 15 minutes for my own - I have to feed wife, children and grandchildren! [12:47] it works better between germans :P [12:47] gema, what do you expect me to do? [12:47] gema, I already gave you a discount? [12:47] hahaha [12:48] dholbach: so we need to set up that sparring, you throwing paper bugs at me and I fend them off with my jenkins bat? [12:48] * gema feels like buying pijamas, now [12:48] I can try to talk Nick into speeding it up a little bit, we'll both be there a bit earlier on Sunday [12:48] pitti, haha, that'd be very funny [12:52] alright, time to walk the dog, brb === yofel_ is now known as yofel [13:32] dholbach, gema: ugh, 13 minutes at first try, I'll trim a bit :) [13:44] pitti, I'm sure we'll work it out one way or another [13:47] ok, 9:30, almost there :) === e11bits_ is now known as e11bits === salem_ is now known as _salem === jcollado1 is now known as jcollado [15:30] this is probably the dumbest question I've ever asked :/ how do I install proprietary drivers on Ubuntu 12.10? [15:31] roadmr: i just install the packages i need... under "software sources" there is a tab for "additional drivers" which has worked ok fo me in my testing [15:31] !ati [15:31] For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto [15:31] !nvidia [15:32] holstein: oh ok, I'll look there. It's not too obvious to me but that may be because I'm biased towards being offered the drivers and/or having a very prominent jockey icon === _salem is now known as salem_ [15:33] roadmr: sure, and just remember, theres is nothing about ubuntu/linux that keeps the manufacturer of your graphics chip from allowing the hardware to be supported "out of the box" === salem_ is now known as _salem === _salem is now known as salem_ === salem_ is now known as _salem [16:39] hello again folks, wondering if anyone else is having trouble installing proprietary drivers on 12.10 due to linux-headers-generic not being installed by default [16:39] hmm, headers have never been installed by default, I didn't think, or atleast, never on mine === _salem is now known as salem_ === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha === salem_ is now known as _salem === _salem is now known as salem_ === salem_ is now known as _salem === _salem is now known as salem_ === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [19:42] phillw: is the netboot testcase ready for upload, smartboyhw and i are finished === jackson_ is now known as Noskcaj [19:45] sorry, xchat changed my name === jackson_ is now known as Noskcaj === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === salem_ is now known as _salem [21:04] Noskcaj: ask wxl to have a quick look over it. It's handy to have another PPC person check the logic :) [21:07] i will when i get a new adapter, phillw / Noskcaj [21:07] ok, i can be used for any desktop architecture though phillw [21:07] I'm just pullingin grub-rescue CD [21:07] *it [21:08] i made that one too [21:08] i think [21:17] Noskcaj: great! Test cases not too scary. We have a whole suite to write for lubuntu (lxde) applications. Julien (our head of dev) has made a start. After UDS, Nicholas will convert them into the 'new' style and we can get to work on them. [21:18] i might start on one of them this-afternoon but now School :( [21:19] afk [21:19] Noskcaj: enjoy!! [21:21] wxl: one of my hard drives decided it is unhappy with life. I've had to back it up & reformat. Trouble is that grub got a little over excited and decided to also write itself to my 2nd hard drive, which uses grub legacy and my 'working' system no longer boots :/# [21:21] doh, not fun phillw [21:21] you got it figured out? [21:21] I'm going to put grub2 onto it - just downloading the grub rescue iso now. [21:21] good [21:23] well, Ihope so... CentOS still runs the old grub. Not sure what will happen when I update the kernel in future - I could be opening up a whole can of worms :/ [21:24] disappointed that the 'I'll put grub where I want' bug still exists... But, such is life. [21:27] oooh.. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-20040549 [21:27] looks interesting!