[01:26] <snap-l> Evening
[02:32] <jrwren> lions are so bad, i'm rooting for chicago
[02:50] <snap-l> http://www.royaloakbrewery.com/
[02:50] <snap-l> jrwren: You'll make rick_h_ happy. :)
[02:52] <snap-l> http://decafbad.net/2012/10/22/coming-together-as-a-community-ohio-linuxfest-and-ubuntu-12-10-release-party/ <- meant to post that instead
[13:42] <snap-l> krondor: Your site's RSS is acting wonky
[13:44] <snap-l> keep getting a connection reset by peer
[13:44] <snap-l> though I can't replicate in Chrome, only in rss2email
[14:26] <snap-l> http://www.suburbanvwoftroy.com/service/xtime-form.htm <- Fucking flash
[14:32] <brousch> I bet Flash is a bad lover
[14:33] <snap-l> But it's nice to be able to schedule my appointment online
[14:34] <snap-l> That's rocking.
[14:34] <snap-l> Only way it would be better is if it sent me a meeting notice to my calendar.
[14:34] <snap-l> but I'm sure that's not a priority for them. :)
[14:36] <krondor> snap-l:  hmm, I'll check it out
[14:38] <snap-l> Let me run it again real quick to see if it's still generating problems.
[14:50] <snap-l> Huh, now I'm not getting the error
[14:51] <krondor> snap-l: it's hosted off github, so maybe something w/ their serving up the page?  I've been hitting it with a few rss and no probs I see
[15:02] <snap-l> Weird.
[15:03] <snap-l> http://soundcloud.com/brosseaupr/2112-overture-royal?secret_token=s-bCx7H <- 2112 Symphonic
[15:03] <snap-l> We have the Pink Floyd Symphonic Album. It alternates between cheesy and majestic
[17:28] <brousch> Should I be concerned that ShockHorror, "The UK's creepiest Horror Magazine, printed bi-monthly in full colour & covering the best of Horror film, tattoos, events, comics, music, books + more!", started following me on Twitter?
[17:48] <snap-l> brousch: Well, should it?
[17:48] <snap-l> Can't answer that for anyone but yourself. :)
[17:48] <brousch> I don't know what I've been tweeting to attract such an entity
[17:48] <brousch> It worries me
[18:07] <juped> lol
[19:50] <rick_h_> jrwren: yea, as brousch says, check out whoosh
[19:50] <rick_h_> just have to make sure you take into account the file based/locking issues
[19:54] <brousch> snap-l: I have discovered that Sludge is one of my favorite metal genres
[19:57] <jrwren> we are looking into xapian which is supposedly a lot faster
[19:57] <rick_h_> yea
[19:57] <rick_h_> but I don't think it scales out as well as solr/elasticsearch
[20:04] <derekv> what i'm learning at cengage is it isn't good enough just thatI have linux, needs to be my linux
[20:05] <derekv> i mean, it gets in your way
[20:06] <Blazeix> ??
[20:06] <derekv> alt button1 drag anywhere on a window moves it
[20:06] <derekv> alt button2 drag resizes it
[20:07] <derekv> i don't care if anyone else likes that or wants it that way or doesn't
[20:07] <derekv> they shouldn't have to
[20:07] <derekv> its what I expect, and then I don't have it I'm constantly slightly frustrated
[20:07] <derekv> and of course there's a hundred little things like that
[20:07] <Blazeix> oh, and you aren't able to run your own wm?
[20:08] <derekv> no we are always pairing
[20:08] <derekv> i think for the occasions where i'm not i might be able to set up a session and copy in my fluxbox config
[20:09] <derekv> haha i remember when I was an fvwm2 user
[20:10] <brousch> Whoa, x crashed
[20:11] <derekv> also, i'm hating the hell out of cinnimon
[20:12] <derekv> unity is ok, gnome classic is ok, both have their issues
[20:12] <derekv> but cinnamon keeps getting installed and there is some disagreement on this: i think it is crashy, does things which are unexpected, and unconfigurable
[20:13] <derekv> but there's someone else who has the opinion that it is stable and just works
[20:13] <Blazeix> cinnamon is one of the gnome forks, right?
[20:13] <derekv> idk it comes with mint I guess
[20:13] <derekv> its one of the mint flavors
[20:14] <derekv> just installed mint in a VM this morning to see how it looks there
[20:14] <derekv> haven't played with it yet
[20:22] <derekv> i wonder if anyone has used spacial audio cues to simulate workspaces / window position analogies , eg for audio interfaces for the blind
[20:23] <brousch> derekv: Combine with something like kinect?
[20:23] <derekv> brousch: good thinking
[20:25] <derekv> why can't any webcam be used?
[20:25] <derekv> is there hardware in that thing?
[20:26] <derekv> specialized
[20:27] <brousch> Yes, it overlays a laser grid to sense distance
[20:27] <brousch> You could do it with a webcam and simplecv
[20:27] <brousch> Colored gloves to make it easier
[20:31] <derekv> no, fine
[20:31] <derekv> kinect
[20:32] <derekv> use that want thing for gestures, it looks like a mic
[20:32] <derekv> didn't the wii controllers have mics in them?
[20:32] <brousch> they have speakers
[20:32] <derekv> we totally have a tedtalk here
[20:33] <brousch> I have access to 2 nearly-blind programmers
[20:34] <derekv> unfortunatly there's the limitation that open source voice recognition solutions aren't very good
[20:34] <derekv> but the blind can type/gesture fine
[20:35] <derekv> there's a symetry to speaking back to a speaking computer but its not important
[20:36] <derekv> someone has probably already done all this i'm sure
[20:40] <snap-l> brousch: Um, cool? (was re: sludge)
[20:40] <brousch> It is cool that I found a genre for what I like
[20:40] <snap-l> I can only take so much sludge metal before I want to hurt people. :)
[20:40] <brousch> Makes it easier to find more
[20:41] <snap-l> though I think it also gets confused with doom metal
[20:41] <snap-l> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_doom_metal_bands
[20:42] <snap-l> There's a few on that list that I love.
[20:43] <snap-l> ie: I could listen to Corossion of Conformity over The Melvins
[20:43] <brousch> ahahahah http://dopethrone.bandcamp.com/track/aint-no-sunshine
[20:45] <snap-l> All I know is there's one type that shows up on Snakenet Metal Radio
[20:46] <snap-l> Funeral and drone doom
[20:46] <snap-l> That's it.
[20:46] <derekv> funeral metal?
[20:46] <snap-l> Funeral Doom
[20:47] <derekv> are there bands that self identify as funeral doom
[20:47] <snap-l> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ma1_menlyZ4
[20:47] <snap-l> ACtually, that's not bad either
[20:47] <brousch> I love the heavy, downtuned guitars
[20:47] <snap-l> I'd listen to track one of this
[20:47] <derekv> don't overcommit
[20:48] <snap-l> OK, let's just say I know it when I hear it. :)
[20:48]  * snap-l needs to stop with the hating of genres because it gets me into trouble.
[20:48] <brousch> heh
[20:48] <snap-l> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIR1KfKXH6s
[20:49] <snap-l> Stuff like this ^^
[20:50] <snap-l> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYgyL7NlwJQ&feature=related
[20:50] <snap-l> At least give me a drum beat.
[20:50] <snap-l> That's all I ask
[20:51] <brousch> WTF is that Sunn?
[20:51] <brousch> Does it go on like that the whole song?
[20:51] <brousch> I think it does. 7 minutes of that?
[20:51] <snap-l> brousch: I don't know
[20:52] <brousch> OM vocals are too normal
[20:55] <brousch> snap-l: I'm not liking the Doom as much
[20:55] <brousch> It's slow but not as heavy
[20:58] <snap-l> Well, that's funeral doom
[20:58] <snap-l> er, not funeral
[20:58] <snap-l> drone doom
[20:59] <brousch> Melvins have potential. I'll have to find more
[20:59] <brousch> Sounds like when Metallica was good
[21:01] <snap-l> You can have my share
[21:01] <snap-l> You might like The Sword
[21:09] <derekv> thats cool eclipse yes trailing whitespace in html is fucking cool as hell
[21:09] <derekv> please do that for me
[21:11] <jrwren> your fault for using eclipse.
[21:11]  * jrwren ducks
[21:12] <derekv> i need someone else to sign my paycheck
[21:14] <jrwren> looking for work?
[21:14] <jrwren> how would you like to build a private cloud ? :)
[21:15] <derekv> Sure.
[21:16] <derekv> I might need to hear some more details
[21:22] <derekv> esx, xen, kvm
[21:23] <derekv> I thought about experimenting with to what extent freebsd jails could be made to act cloud-like with some smart scripting
[21:24] <derekv> afk
[21:26] <jrwren> all that sounds awesome.
[21:26] <jrwren> we were more thinking openstack or cloudstack or whatever.
[21:26] <jrwren> and ceph or other for s3 like store
[21:27] <derekv> sweet , i haven't done anything with openstack before
[21:27] <derekv> afk for real
[21:27] <jrwren> apply for job here: http://jobs.danaher.com/job/Ann-Arbor-Systems-Engineer-Cloud-Solutions-Job-MI-48103/2005445/
[21:27] <jrwren> we are just looking for someone who is strongly interested in building and maintaining a private cloud and helping us move to using it.
[21:53] <greg-g> I love audio tools that use defaults that I approve, instead of stupid ones
[21:53] <greg-g> example of stupid: Banshee (stupid file/folder hierarchy structure)
[21:54] <greg-g> example good: split2flac (it splits a CD sized flac file into individual tracks, using correct, in my view, file/folder structure)