| tjaalton | wth is going on with bug 1068341 | 05:38 |
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| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1068341 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-updates (Ubuntu) "nVidia proprietary drivers miss linux-headers-generic dependency" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1068341 | 05:38 |
| tjaalton | aiui the deps should be right | 05:39 |
| RAOF | Oh, Pitcairn GPUs work surprisingly well in 12.10. | 05:43 |
| RAOF | At least, I was surprised :). | 05:43 |
| RAOF | It brings everything up nicely (albeit on llvmpipe) | 05:43 |
| RAOF | tjaalton: Yeah, the deps are right, as far as they go. | 06:01 |
| RAOF | tjaalton: We don't actually have a dependency format for “You must have the headers for all your kernels installed” | 06:01 |
| RAOF | Which is what the *real* dependency is. | 06:01 |
| RAOF | tjaalton: Wontfix'd with justification + a dpkg task :) | 06:12 |
| tjaalton | RAOF: ooh, thanks | 06:14 |
| mlankhorst | morning | 06:16 |
| mlankhorst | RAOF: it's a jedi mind trick, you are suddenly aware you want manganese dioxide | 06:17 |
| mlankhorst | Sarvatt: you're right btw, apart from the 'xorg' package I completely scripted everything for *-lts-quantal* packages, running lts-stack on a quantal machine will give you the exact same packages I created | 06:19 |
| mlankhorst | only ones I manually modified are the unrenamed deps I want to sru | 06:20 |
| tjaalton | lol @ bug 1070113 | 06:22 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1070113 in xorg (Ubuntu) "too slow, and stop system." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1070113 | 06:22 |
| tjaalton | "i cant write very well.too slow" | 06:22 |
| mlankhorst | but you can add per package modifications in lts-pkg-rename, I mostly reserve those for mesa and xorg-server | 06:22 |
| tjaalton | what does -nr do? | 06:23 |
| mlankhorst | -nr (Ubuntu-specific) Synonym for -background none | 06:24 |
| mlankhorst | presumably keep the background until redraw | 06:24 |
| RAOF | Yeah. It's what everyone used for the -background none before it landed upstream. | 06:24 |
| tjaalton | ah | 06:24 |
| tjaalton | synonym.. | 06:25 |
| tjaalton | why not just change lightdm? | 06:25 |
| tjaalton | in precise | 06:25 |
| mlankhorst | RAOF: I'm more worried about -core though | 06:25 |
| mlankhorst | how do you want to enable that in lightdm? | 06:25 |
| RAOF | mlankhorst: Why? | 06:25 |
| mlankhorst | without breaking precise X | 06:25 |
| RAOF | I don't *think* that'll break precise X; precise X knows about -core. | 06:26 |
| tjaalton | mlankhorst: wy would it break if there's a synonym | 06:26 |
| mlankhorst | RAOF: yeah but it might change behavior by applying it to precise | 06:26 |
| tjaalton | oh -core | 06:26 |
| RAOF | mlankhorst: I think the worst case for -core is that we'll get slightly worse bug reports. | 06:26 |
| mlankhorst | well hopefully at this point there won't be new ones anyway | 06:27 |
| mlankhorst | *smirk* too optimistic? | 06:27 |
| mlankhorst | I suppose I'll upload a lightdm package that explicitly enables -nr and -core then in the qbp ppa | 06:30 |
| tjaalton | but why can't the actual option be used instead? | 06:38 |
| tjaalton | no need to patch silly things | 06:38 |
| RAOF | We can't use -nr because the Xserver in Quantal doesn't support it, and we can't use -background none because the Xserver in Precise doesn't support it. | 06:40 |
| RAOF | Actually, the latter might not be true; does 1.11 support -background none? Did that get merged in 1.11 or in 1.12? | 06:40 |
| tjaalton | why can't we add that patch there then? | 06:42 |
| tjaalton | easier than messing with the backports | 06:42 |
| RAOF | We could indeed. | 06:44 |
| RAOF | The -background none/-nr patch is eminently SRUable. | 06:44 |
| jcristau | $ git describe --contains 8976e9766edfb33f5cf3f6d54f09e46d29bc4ec5 | 06:45 |
| jcristau | xorg-server-1.9.99.901~55 | 06:45 |
| tjaalton | some day i'd like to update the precise xserver some more, in order to gain the worthy updates from 1.12.x | 06:45 |
| tjaalton | heh | 06:45 |
| tjaalton | there we go | 06:45 |
| mlankhorst | RAOF: can I get -core in the same upload for lightdm then? | 06:48 |
| RAOF | mlankhorst: Looks like we don't actually need -nr there; how much would you care if we simply dropped -core from the backports/ | 06:50 |
| RAOF | ? | 06:50 |
| RAOF | That means you won't get xserver crashes in errors.ubuntu.com/apport, which may be a problem, but otherwise would be fine. | 06:50 |
| mlankhorst | I would prefer to get crash reports | 06:51 |
| mlankhorst | it's not the same package since it is recompiled in a different environment with different libraries, etc | 06:51 |
| RAOF | Right. | 06:52 |
| mlankhorst | hm, from what I can tell xserver-local.c already specifies -background none | 07:21 |
| tjaalton | it's in 1.10-> | 07:22 |
| mlankhorst | so lightdm should already pass on -background none if plymouth was previously active | 07:22 |
| mlankhorst | just means backporting the -core thing then :) | 07:23 |
| tjaalton | ahh in lightdm | 07:24 |
| stefan` | hi guys, are you still looking for affected users of bug 1061073? | 07:55 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1061073 in mesa (Ubuntu) "Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1061073 | 07:55 |
| tjaalton | no, upstream response | 07:56 |
| shadeslayer | as in, from mesa? | 07:57 |
| shadeslayer | *mesa devs | 07:57 |
| tjaalton | yes | 07:57 |
| shadeslayer | okay | 07:58 |
| shadeslayer | tjaalton: is there a discussion that I could follow? | 07:59 |
| tjaalton | the upstream bug? | 07:59 |
| tjaalton | subscribe to it | 07:59 |
| shadeslayer | oh .. the one on freedesktop.org, right | 08:00 |
| mlankhorst | ok my beauty works | 08:25 |
| mlankhorst | of course the real fix turns out to be a 1 line diff (I hope) | 09:16 |
| mlankhorst | or not, grr.. | 09:19 |
| mlankhorst | I don't get it, my dumb version works, smarter version fails | 10:26 |
| mlankhorst | and disabling downloadfromscreen/uploadtoscreen immediately fails in a more interesting way :-) | 11:08 |
| mlankhorst | suspiciously similar to another bug report, in fact | 11:11 |
| mlankhorst | and enabling wfb allows me to count pixels as they come along.. talk about slow.. | 12:25 |
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| bjsnider | ricotz, i'm getting nautilus-shell-search-provider crashes | 17:34 |
| ricotz | bjsnider, i know :\ | 18:07 |
| bjsnider | ricotz, have you got a stacktrace, because i can get you one | 18:07 |
| ricotz | bjsnider, no, do you know if this a upstream issue or ubuntu related | 18:09 |
| bjsnider | i don't | 18:09 |
| ricotz | i didnt look at it yet, and i don't have time currently | 18:09 |
| bjsnider | i will investigate and report | 18:09 |
| ricotz | thanks | 18:09 |
| mlankhorst | blegh waiting for upstream before I can get my sru going :P | 18:19 |
| bryce | apw has set up intel's new experimental branch - http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/drm-intel-nightly/ | 19:09 |
| bryce | RAOF, there is a jockey 0.9.7-0ubuntu7.4 waiting for approval in precise. If you can accept that, I'll test it locally to verify the fix. | 22:04 |
| RAOF | Sweet. | 22:05 |
| bryce | alberto also posted the experimental drivers for quantal; they're in New. | 22:08 |
| * mlankhorst cynically translates lightweight to featureless | 23:38 | |
| RAOF | Heh. | 23:38 |
| RAOF | I'd cynically translate “lightweight” to “doesn't understand the problem domain, so will become an unmaintainable mess” :) | 23:39 |
| mlankhorst | same thing | 23:41 |
| mlankhorst | except the latter part might not always happen | 23:44 |
| mlankhorst | I wrote a dumb irc part that literally doesn't know what channels it's on, so could claim it's lightweight. :P | 23:44 |
| mlankhorst | s/part/bot/ | 23:45 |
| mlankhorst | unfortunately using common definitions, since I use external libraries like libxml2 for html parsing it wouldn't count as lightweight, instead I would need to replicate it.. poorly | 23:49 |
| * mlankhorst ducks | 23:49 | |
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