[00:00] <jjkinas> ejo:  yah i feel your pain , on the last page of that link it says that someone set up a  fglrx legacy ppa ... does that help you ?
[00:01] <Aufwind> Is it recommended to use a /boot partition?
[00:01] <jrib> Aufwind: not really necessary imo
[00:02] <ihsw> does anyone have any stats on how many 'apt-get update' queries are issued each month by ubuntu users
[00:02] <n2diy_> how do you reconfigure X in 12.10?
[00:02] <chaotix> hi all...  trying LUBUNTU for the first time here, asked my question in #lubuntu and #LXDE, no responces yet, however...  or any chat activity at all for that matter :(     ..so here goes:  anyone know how to add the search bar to synaptic package man. ?   i know that i can click on search, but in some distrobutions there is a search bar where the search button is in LXDE, and i find it to...
[00:02] <chaotix> ...be wayyyy more convenient. looked around in settings→preferences but i cant seem to find it :(    ...anyone know where it is??
[00:03] <ihsw> or, more to the point, i'm trying to convince a friend of the scale of shuttleworth's "we have root" statement, particularly how often we give root to canonical
[00:03] <jrib> ihsw: I don't see how the two are related
[00:04] <ihsw> jrib: there is a great deal of trust we give to canonical and i just want to quantify that with a real number
[00:05] <Meris> ishw, better take this to #ubuntu-offtopic instead
[00:05] <ejo> jjkinas: It probably would help me if I chose to risk spending a couple of hours on installing 12.10 again.  But I think I'm done with it for a month or so, will just let it age a bit.
[00:05] <jrib> ihsw: if you update packages signed by canonical (or anyone else) and do not read the source, then you are trusting canonical (or anyone else).  And yes, this is more appropriate in #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:05] <t|4sk> now I have many options to try, thanks all :)
[00:07] <Meris> ejo, you could try a conservative X setting in grub, to see if that helps you, a safe graphics mode so to speak...
[00:08] <PatrickDickey> jrib, I've figured out what's wrong with my cronjob. But, I'm clueless as to how to fix the problem. The python script can't open the files needed when I run it from the command line. But, if I run it through the IDE that I created it in, it works fine.
[00:09] <jrib> PatrickDickey: pastebin the stdout and stderr you got from the cronjob
[00:09] <devnill> I'm trying to install a new wireless card and its not showing up in ifconfig -a
[00:10] <devnill> how do I debug this?
[00:10] <jrib> !wireless | devnill
[00:10] <KM0201> devnill: well, is it showing up in lspci ?
[00:10] <jrib> devnill: should give you a starting point
[00:10] <PatrickDickey> I haven't done that part yet. I've just tried running the script manually. I got error 13 Permission Denied.
[00:10] <devnill> i'll take a look
[00:10] <jrib> PatrickDickey: ok, pastebin that
[00:11] <n2diy_> I upgraded my test box from 12.04 to 12.10, and now X doesn't display correctly, and the mouse isn't working. I can use command line in a console.
[00:12] <n2diy_> how do you reconfigure X in 12.10?
[00:12] <klaxtr> my friend has a samsung smart tv and is asking if  the OS can be changed for ubuntu tv, is this possible
[00:12] <Meris> n2diy_, you could try a conservative X setting in grub, to see if that helps you, a safe graphics mode so to speak...
[00:13] <PatrickDickey> jrib here's the best that I can give you. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1298951/
[00:13] <n2diy_> Meris, ok, I've never played with grub, how do I go about that?
[00:13] <wols> n2diy_: generally, there is no X configuration. do you have a xorg.conf file?
[00:13] <PatrickDickey> It's odd, because if I open the project in Komodo (the IDE I created it in), it runs fine.
[00:14] <jrib> PatrickDickey: so where is it trying to write results.log to?
[00:14] <n2diy_> wols, I have xorg.conf.d
[00:14] <PatrickDickey> The same directory as the script. And the permissions are 666 on all text files.
[00:15] <jrib> PatrickDickey: what directory did you run this from (« pwd »)?  What is the output of « ls -ld /home/patrickdickey/Documents/TunnelBrokerUpdater/ »?
[00:15] <ex0a> anyone here know how i can reinstall grub after a dist-upgrade to 12.10 with dmraid setup (it broke grub and i'm left chainloading from SGD atm to get into the os)
[00:15] <jrib> PatrickDickey: by the way, what's with the ".bak"?
[00:16] <Nach0z> ex0a: sudo apt-get install grub && sudo update-grub  should work
[00:16] <ex0a> it doesn't
[00:16] <PatrickDickey> Well, I ran the 2to3 script on it, and found out that I have python 2.7.3 installed. So I was running the backup file.
[00:16] <Copernicus2K> how can i check what gpu driver i am using? if i am using nouveau or nvidia?
[00:16] <ex0a> let me get the pastebin again brb
[00:16] <Meris> n2diy_, try adding vga=771 to your boot line in grub2. When grub starts, you can edit the line if you interrupt the boot process, just add vga=771 to the boot options
[00:16] <klaxtr> does some one try ubuntu tv already??\
[00:17] <Copernicus2K> how can i check what gpu driver i am using? if i am using nouveau or nvidia???
[00:17] <PatrickDickey> Here's the ls -ld results drwxrwxr-x 3 patrickdickey patrickdickey 4096 Oct 22 19:03 /home/patrickdickey/Documents/TunnelBrokerUpdater/
[00:18] <infectedorganism> just installed and configured lubuntu 12.10 to my liking. im looking at cloning this installation, but how would i go about restoring in case anything were to happen?
[00:18] <PatrickDickey> I'm guessing that I need to add +w to the directory.
[00:18] <Meris> Copernicus2K, try less /proc/driver/nvidia/version
[00:18] <PatrickDickey> And it doesn't matter which directory I run it from. I've ran it from /, /home/patrickdickey, and even inside the directory itself.
[00:19] <johnjacobjingerh> hey guys i have a question about installing ubuntu.   I have a computer that has 2 partitions.  One partition I have windows on (which i want to wipe out) the other one I have my files on.  I have the Ubuntu disk in, but it's wanting to install to the WHOLE drive
[00:19] <johnjacobjingerh> i'm afraid this will wipe my drive out
[00:19] <johnjacobjingerh> i want to install it to the 100GB partition and have it reformat it EXT4
[00:19] <johnjacobjingerh> what is the correct way to install ubuntu to the 100GB partition with out touching the 900GB partition
[00:20] <PatrickDickey> johnjacobjinger you can select the manually partition option, and pick the partition you want. It should be the last option (Custom)
[00:20] <jrib> PatrickDickey: if you just answer my questions, it will make it easier for me to help you
[00:20] <johnjacobjingerh> ok i got into that, and it does list out all my partitions, one of whicdh is a 100GB... and there's a box next to it that says Format.  is that what I want to check?
[00:21] <PatrickDickey> jrib, I tried running it from /, my home directory, and the directory it's located in. The results of ls -ld is drwxrwxr-x 3 patrickdickey patrickdickey 4096 Oct 22 19:03 /home/patrickdickey/Documents/TunnelBrokerUpdater/ and the .bak file is because I ran the 2to3 script on it, but found out after the fact that I've got Python 2.7.3 installed yet.
[00:21] <jrib> PatrickDickey: for the pastebin, where did you run it from?
[00:21] <PatrickDickey> jrib, that was from /
[00:22] <jrib> PatrickDickey: do « cd », then run it again and pastebin (command and output)
[00:22] <Cong> why isn't where a option like: this is the side I want to install. now do it automatically.
[00:22] <Jordan_U> Cong: What do you mean by "side"?
[00:22] <Cong> partition
[00:23] <PatrickDickey> jrib how do I add the actual error to the output? Right now, if it's an IOError, it just prints "Unable to open UserInfo.txt file."
[00:24] <ex0a> i can't get grub to install on 12.10 with dmraid http://paste.ubuntu.com/1298956/
[00:24] <Nach0z> oh. dmraid.
[00:24] <jrib> PatrickDickey: not sure what you mean.  You ran it from a terminal right?
[00:25] <Aufwind> Is it possible to umount a drice which is busy, by forcing it somehow?
[00:25] <rotten777> Can anyone point me in the right direction troubleshooting my login? I get lightdm up, login, and it immediately returns me to lightdm. But only under one user.
[00:25] <PatrickDickey> Yes. But I changed the script to print instead of trying to write to a file. When I try to write to a file, it just goes back to the prompt.
[00:25] <jrib> Aufwind: probably best to just close whatever processes are using it
[00:26] <jrib> PatrickDickey: it goes back to the prompt, without error?
[00:26] <Aufwind> I am on a live CD and I have mounted some drives from my harddrive, does this matter here? As far as I known there shouldn't been something important going on.
[00:26] <Aufwind> jrib: I have a little trouble figuring all the processes using the drive. :-)
[00:26] <jrib> Aufwind: you probably just have a terminal with current working directory on the mounted partition
[00:26] <PatrickDickey> yes. I was running it from /home/patrickdickey at that time. If I run it from /, I get the same pastebin that I showed you earlier.
[00:26] <rotten777> Aufwind: umount -l /dev/sdX#
[00:27] <trism> rotten777: what is: ls -l ~/.Xauthority;
[00:27] <Aufwind> rotten777: thanks!
[00:27] <daviddoria> PatrickDickey, (sorry for the long delay in my reply) - but the installation is stuck (for 10 hours now) - so what would you do if not stop it?
[00:28] <Cong> that's x11's magic cookie
[00:28] <rotten777> trism: checking...
[00:28] <trism> rotten777: if that looks okay, see what signal was returned in /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log and also check out ~/.xsession-errors
[00:28] <jrib> PatrickDickey: you are confusing me.  I asked you if it returned to the prompt without error and you replied "yes".  But at the same time you say it's the same as the pastebin you posted earlier which has an error.  And you said it didn't matter where you ran it from. Are you saying that when you run it from /home/patrick, there is no problem?  I think you've found your issue in that case.
[00:28] <rotten777> trism: a root owned single file
[00:28] <johnjacobjingerh> uh oh... now i think i fudged up
[00:28] <trism> Cong: yes, and often it gets owned by root, preventing login
[00:28] <trism> rotten777: yeah that is probably it, just delete that file and try to log in again
[00:28] <johnjacobjingerh> how the heck do i set a root partition?
[00:29] <johnjacobjingerh> i am in the partition editor at the install
[00:29] <rotten777> trism: many thanks!
[00:29] <dr_willis> johnjacobjingerh:  the root partion has a mountpoint of '/'
[00:29] <PatrickDickey> jrib, I'll pastebin something different. I did a pwd to show you where I'm at, and then ran the file. Then I changed to another directory, and ran it again.
[00:29] <johnjacobjingerh> i did that but it still says that it's not selected
[00:29] <johnjacobjingerh> oh wait
[00:29] <johnjacobjingerh> i messed up
[00:29] <johnjacobjingerh> i selected /boot
[00:29] <johnjacobjingerh> lol
[00:29] <FloodBot1> johnjacobjingerh: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:30] <dr_willis> the use of  /boot/ is  a little old school. ;)
[00:30] <dr_willis> just needed in a few cases these days
[00:30] <johnjacobjingerh> also... where should the bootloader be installed?  on the same partition as the OS or the entire drive
[00:30] <johnjacobjingerh> (if i write it to the entire drive will it mess with my 900GB partition that has my data on it
[00:30] <PatrickDickey> jrib http://paste.ubuntu.com/1298968/
[00:31] <jrib> PatrickDickey: just seems like your script writes results.log to whatever the current directory is and it fails if it can't.  So either change your script to not fail if it can't write results.log or make sure you run your script from somewhere where you can write to
[00:32] <PatrickDickey> daviddoria, You'll have to stop it then. It's broken anyhow. What you might be able to do (and somene else will probably be able to answer this better than I can) is download the iso and burn it to a DVD. Then use that to install. It *should* detect the current system, and allow you to upgrade it.
[00:32] <ex0a> can anyone point me in the right direction in fixing grub after an update to 12.10 broke it? (using dmraid) boot-repair output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1298956/
[00:33] <daviddoria> PatrickDickey, ok, that sounds like a reasonable thing to try next if I reboot and it is broken...
[00:33] <PatrickDickey> jrib, is there a way to specify that it writes results.log to the same directory as the script regardless of where it's being ran from?
[00:33] <johnjacobjingerh> can Gparted change the format of a drive without erasing it?
[00:34] <Nach0z> uh
[00:34] <johnjacobjingerh> like convert NTFS to FAT32
[00:34] <jrib> PatrickDickey: sure, but you would need to modify your python code
[00:34] <Nach0z> johnjacobjingerh: nope. don't think so.
[00:34] <johnjacobjingerh> oh...
[00:34] <johnjacobjingerh> actually just noticed ubuntu can read and write ntfs so nvm
[00:34] <PatrickDickey> jrib, what would I need to put in? It needs to be a relative path though, as I'll be posting the code to a forum eventually.
[00:35] <jrib> PatrickDickey: you can probably use __file__, but #python would know better
[00:35] <PatrickDickey> Thanks jrib. I'll have to pop in there and find out.
[00:36] <johnjacobjingerh> if this doesnt work i'm suing #ubuntu
[00:36] <PatrickDickey> johnjacobjinger, let me know how that works out.
[00:36] <PatrickDickey> :D
[00:37] <PatrickDickey> On a serious note johnjacobjinger, when you got to the option to "Do Something Else" what did you see in there?
[00:37] <Arizona> Hi every<Arizona> Hi everybody*
 I was wondering if you guys know about the updated grub
 and if you could help me
 Im new to linux, and I need some help with the boot loader
 I want to set Win7 as my default (top of the list)
[00:37] <FloodBot1> Arizona: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
 but I dont know how
[00:37] <bkc_> !enter | Arizona
[00:37] <Arizona> Thank you
[00:37] <Arizona> so can anyone help me
[00:37] <Arizona> ?
[00:38] <ms_daisy> !grub | Arizona
[00:38] <Arizona> ms_daisy, Im still confused
[00:38] <Arizona> is grub2
[00:38] <Arizona> the updated grub for ubuntu
[00:38] <Arizona> ?
[00:38] <bkc_> yes, grub2
[00:39] <ms_daisy> Read the link first. You probably have grub2 also Arizona
[00:39] <PatrickDickey> Arizona, you want the second link. The general information on Grub2.
[00:39] <Arizona> alright
[00:40] <PatrickDickey> Arizona, specifically the "Configuring Grub2" section.
[00:42] <gustav__> Anyone heard of using a Nikon D90 with Ubuntu 12.10?
[00:43] <johnjacobjingerh> gustav__, yep. just now i did
[00:43] <Jordan_U> Arizona: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[00:43] <ahmad> hello everyone!
[00:43] <Arizona> jordan, I'm using xubuntu 12.10
[00:43] <Arizona> And before you tell me to go on #xubuntu
[00:43] <gustav__> johnjacobjingerh: I should be more specific. Did you use PTP and/or control the camera? Not just mass storage?
[00:44] <Arizona> they told me to go over here because the people that where on weren't sure on how to use grub2
[00:44] <Jordan_U> Arizona: This channel is fine for any official flavor of Ubuntu, no complaints here :)
[00:45] <Arizona> Jordan_U, Thanks
[00:45] <Arizona> But im still confused as to the grub2
[00:45] <Arizona> :s
[00:45] <crimsonmane> FRANK-N-FURTER: you're a hotdog
[00:45] <Jordan_U> Arizona: The easiest (and IMHO best) option is to simply change the GRUB_DEFAULT= in /etc/default/grub. If you pastebin your /boot/grub/grub.cfg I can tell you the exact value to use.
[00:45] <Arizona> ok
[00:46] <johnjacobjingerh> i dont know what PTP is
[00:47] <Arizona> Jordan_U, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1298999/
[00:48] <gustav__> johnjacobjingerh: Picture Transfer Protocol. Enables liveview from cameras. And stuff like that.
[00:49] <ejo> Meris: thank you, that's a good idea
[00:50] <FRANK-N-FURTER> I'm just a sweet transvetite!
[00:50] <Arizona> Jordan_U, are you here?
[00:51] <pitviper296> hi guys , trying to install testdisk and Having some issues
[00:51] <pitviper296> can anyone help me?
[00:51] <facu> I can't resize the Unity Launcher panel, who can help me?
[00:52] <Jordan_U> Arizona: What is the output of "grub-install --version"?
[00:53] <Jordan_U> Arizona: That looks like a grub.cfg from grub 1.99, which would be from Ubuntu 12.04 rather than Ubuntu 12.10.
[00:53] <wilee-nilee> pitviper296, Download it from the site and double click on it.
[00:53] <pitviper296> can anyone help me install testdisk?
[00:53] <stumpped> Help please.. We had thunderstorms and knocked out power.  I couldnt get connected back to the internet so I removed network and went to reinstall it but wasnt connected so I cant.... I am using the live boot cd now    Can someone help me use connand line to reinstall network manager
[00:53] <Chairman_meow> hi i have two fo,.ders of MP3s io need to convert into something usable in ardour. Ideas?
[00:53] <Arizona> Jordan_U,
[00:53] <Arizona> Its 1.99
[00:53] <Arizona> :s
[00:54] <ejo> facu, you can change the icon size under Settings > Appearance > Launcher Icon Size.  But I don't know any way to change the size of the launcher panel itself
[00:54] <pitviper296> testdisk: error while loading shared libraries: libreiserfs-0.3.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[00:54] <ejo> (except that it auto-sizes its width to the icons, and is always full height)
[00:54] <Jordan_U> Arizona: What is the output of "lsb_release -d"?
[00:55] <Arizona> 1sb?
[00:55] <Arizona> lsb
[00:55] <Arizona> l or 1
[00:55] <Jordan_U> Arizona: L
[00:55] <facu> ejo: yes, the icon size but the option is not there no more
[00:55] <Fullbust> hi. when creating a new user, is there a way how to automatically run a default script for further configuration? thanks
[00:55] <Arizona> Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[00:56] <Jordan_U> Arizona: That's not 12.10 :) But that doesn't matter too much. What you want is GRUB_DEFAULT="Windows 7 (loader) (on /dev/sda2)" in /etc/default/grub.
[00:56] <Arizona> Jordan_U,
[00:56] <Arizona> I downloaded xubuntu 12.10 though
[00:56] <Arizona> :S
[00:56] <Arizona> Anyway
[00:56] <Jordan_U> Arizona: Don't forget the quotes, and make sure to run "sudo update-grub" afterward to be sure it takes affect.
[00:56] <Arizona> it didnt work
[00:56] <Arizona> last time i tried it
[00:56] <Arizona> so Jordan_U
[00:56] <Arizona> I just tye in
[00:56] <FloodBot1> Arizona: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:57] <Arizona> GRUB_DEFAULT="Windows 7 (loader) (on /dev/sda2)"
[00:57] <Arizona> ?
[00:57] <Arizona> Because I tried this and it didnt work
[00:57] <Arizona> :s
[00:57] <BlackBsd> hello all, i installed kubuntu 12.10 when i log in some widgets on the start bar cause kde to crash and i have to re-login.  any ideas which log i could look at?
[00:58] <BlackBsd> i was having the same issue if i installed ubuntu then added kde-full
[00:58] <ahmad> i was wondering if anyone can shed some light on this topic for me.. is there a way to clone my ubuntu desktop installation and save it as an iso image that i can use to restore ubuntu to that state if anything ever goes wrong?
[00:58] <roy_muzz> Hi, I have a ubuntu LTS 10.04 headless server that i just upgraded to 12.04. The upgrade did not seem super clean and there was a  "failed to read on buffer copy for md5hash: Input/output error" when installing bash completion. The server is running fine now but I am worried that it wont come back up after a reboot. Any commands that I can run to check whether the machine will come back up?
[00:58] <Arizona> Alright, I'm going to check if it works
[00:58] <Arizona> brb
[00:58] <wilee-nilee> ahmad, remastersys
[00:58] <Jimster480-L> what version of KDE are you using
[00:58] <Jordan_U> Arizona: Please pastebin your /etc/default/grub, then run "sudo update-grub" (to be sure that your grub.cfg reflects the most recent changes to /etc/default/grub) and then post your full /boot/grub/grub.cfg.
[00:58] <BlackBsd> odd, sometimes compiz would seem to crash also
[00:58] <XiaolinDraconis> ahmad, clonezilla
[00:58] <stumpped> dr_willis   Can you help me get my install ubuntu 12.o4 back online.. The network manager was removed and I cannot reinstall it.  Please help
[00:58] <XiaolinDraconis> ahmad, but it wont be an iso
[00:58] <Arizona> Jordan_U, I typed in /etc/default/grub and it didnt show anything
[00:59] <Arizona> I'm really confused
[00:59] <Arizona> :c
[00:59] <BlackBsd> I am using the version that came with 12.10
[00:59] <BlackBsd> let me check on that
[00:59] <facu> I can't resize the Unity Launcher's icon, who can help me?
[00:59] <stumpped> dr_willis  I am using the live cd.. The network manager is not in the taskbar
[00:59] <wilee-nilee> ahmad, I would clone it rather then make a ISO, as suggested with clonezilla.
[00:59] <ahmad> thank you XiaolinDraconis  and wilee-nilee I will look in to those options now
[01:00] <BlackBsd> I am not sure which version of kde this is..
[01:00] <Chairman_meow> hi i have two fo,.ders of MP3s io need to convert into something usable in ardour. Ideas?
[01:00] <Jordan_U> Arizona: /etc/default/grub is not a command, it's a text file. To open /etc/default/grub in a text editor run "gkdudo mousepad /etc/default/grub".
[01:00] <crimsonmane> gksudo
[01:00] <dr_willis> !info ardour2
[01:00] <dr_willis> !info ardour
[01:01] <dr_willis> weird it couldent handle mp3's
[01:01] <BlackBsd> i think the xsession is crashing?
[01:01] <Arizona> I put in gksudo mousepad /etc/default/grub
[01:02] <Arizona> and it didnt work, Jordan_U
[01:02] <stumpped> CAN ANYONE help me get the network manager back ...  I am using the live cd now and cannot get online if using the HD installed version.
[01:02] <Jordan_U> Arizona: What did happen?
[01:02] <Chairman_meow> dr_willis, yea i thought so too!\
[01:02] <Arizona> Jordan_U, nothing
[01:02] <dr_willis> Chairman_meow:  could be it just needs some extra plugin, or codec pack installed.
[01:02] <Jordan_U> Arizona: Were you returned to a prompt?
[01:03] <dr_willis> stumpped:  how did you remove it?  how do you normally connect?
[01:03] <BlackBsd> The version of kde is 4.9.2
[01:03] <Chairman_meow> dr_willis, is there  a simple way to convert mp3s? and i did a quick google and ddint notice anything about plugins for mp3s but ill try again
[01:03] <Arizona> when you mean prompt Jordan_U
[01:03] <Arizona> do you mean like
[01:03] <x1250> I have the multiverse repo, but can't find tremulous in 12.10, any help?? Maybe I'm missing something
[01:03] <Arizona> classic@classic-linux:~$ gksudo mousepad /etc/default/grub
[01:03] <Arizona> classic@classic-linux:~$
[01:03] <Arizona> this
[01:03] <FloodBot1> Arizona: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:03] <XiaolinDraconis> bingo
[01:03] <stumpped> dr_willis I removed it because I thought it needed to be reinstalled.. We had thunderstorms and power was knocked out.. Long story.. I am using live cd
[01:04] <dr_willis> Chairman_meow:  should be dozens of ways to convert mp3 to wav.  ive never really needed to.
[01:05] <wastrel> !info tremulous quantal
[01:05] <ahmad> very cool guys.. clonezilla seems to be exactly what i am looking for :)
[01:05] <TheRedOctober> Greetings all. Trying to get up kerberos, Ubuntu documentation on this leaves much to be desired (other than free). I am consistenly not able to contact LDAP server from KDC, and other than setting ldap_server in krb5.conf, I can't figure out what could be the cause...ideas?
[01:05] <Jordan_U> Arizona: That's odd, it should have opened a new window in the "Mousepad" text editor. Unfortunately I need to go for a few hours now. You definitely need to edit /etc/default/grub though, I don't know what you were doing before but as it doesn't appear that you were editing /etc/default/grub that explains why what you were doing wasn't working.
[01:05] <trism> x1250: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=672853
[01:05] <stumpped> dr_willis I removed it with the ubuntu package installer.. but trying to reinstall it I didnt realize i couldnt use the cd..
[01:05] <Chairman_meow> Does anyone know of a simple preferably GUI way oif converting MP3 to WAV/other
[01:06] <ClientAlive> how do I also install "suggested packages" when running apt-get install on the command line?
[01:06] <Arizona> sigh
[01:06] <Arizona> ok, Jordan_U
[01:06] <blackshirt> theredoctober, your ldap server should in resolvable name
[01:06] <dr_willis> stumpped:  its possible to configure the network via command line. but ive not had to do that in ages.   since im wired to a router. i just have to do a 'ifup eth0' i recall or 'dhclient'
[01:06] <TheRedOctober> blackshirt: it is, reverse resolvable as well.
[01:06] <x1250> trism, ok, thanks for the link
[01:07] <stumpped> dr_willis  i am wireless
[01:07] <blackshirt> theredoctober, is both of them resides on different machines?
[01:07] <dr_willis> Chairman_meow:  you see this ? http://ardour.org/mp3
[01:08] <escott> stumpped, then you have to set the essid with iwconfig, use wpa_supplicant to do the crypto handshake and maybe also dhclient
[01:08] <escott> stumpped, if you have any kind of gui and have ever set up the wireless with network manager nmcli might be eaiser
[01:08] <TheRedOctober> blackshirt: roger, ldap1 and ldap2 are two seperate machines, kdc1 and kdc2 are two seperate machiens as well, total of 4 machines, TLS set up and confirmed on LDAP, LDAP is working as expected.
[01:09] <BlackBsd> anyone  use KDE?
[01:10] <blackshirt> theredoctober, kerberos relies on synhronized time between server and client, you should ensure that
[01:10] <dr_willis> Night all..
[01:10] <stumpped> escott  what is nmcli   it is not in the software center
[01:10] <TheRedOctober> blackshirt: specifically, I am getting "kadmin.local: Can't contact LDAP server while initializing kadmin.local interface," I am following server guide line for line, can't find a resolution. I can contact LDAP server, why can't this?
[01:10] <TheRedOctober> blackshirt: yeah, I know, NTP is installed on all machines :)
[01:10] <escott> !find nmcli | stumpped
[01:11] <blackshirt> dr_willis, good morning guys
[01:11] <blackshirt> theredoctober, you should not use kadmin.local for network based access..they just for local communication through socket internally used by kerberos..
[01:13] <Duke> rsync?
[01:13] <ex0a> can anyone point me in the right direction in fixing grub after an update to 12.10 broke it? (using dmraid) boot-repair output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1298956/
[01:13] <TheRedOctober> blackshirt: interesting. I really really want to help on the server guide documentation, they need to qualify these things better. Now when I use kadmin, I get "kadmin: Cannot contact any KDC for requested realm while initializing kadmin interface"
[01:14] <diverdude> hello... is it possible to make the NCI ask the DHCP server refresh its IP ?
[01:14] <blackshirt> theredoctober, greats if you can help the community to improve somethings...
[01:14] <blackshirt> theredoctober, ensure your kdc was up and running
[01:15] <ClientAlive> what is gcc and g++ multilib? Is it something I may want?
[01:16] <TheRedOctober> blackshirt: I would like to, but first I need to figure out how to get kerberos working. I have wanted to get this going for years, to no avail. Looking at services, I noticed that no, krb5-kdc was not running...
[01:17] <escott> ClientAlive, http://airs.com/ian/configure/configure_8.html
[01:17] <ClientAlive> ok
[01:17] <blackshirt> theredoctober, thats bad if not running...
[01:17] <wilee-nilee> ex0a, Have you had a chance to start a thread at the Ubuntu Forums, the designer of the boot repair tool and some others are on there everyday dealing with grub problems specifically.
[01:18] <ex0a> wilee-nilee: i haven't, i've just been pinging in here randomly while doing research etc
[01:18] <TheRedOctober> blackshirt: yeah, not going to get so far without that. Now I am setting up logging to try to get some handle on why it fails to start.
[01:18] <ex0a> will do that shortly
[01:18] <wilee-nilee> ex0a, Cool. ;)
[01:19] <folorn> wasn't there some command that started with linkd or something for viewing webpages too?? anyone know
[01:19] <blackshirt> theredoctober, glads if you report it here
[01:20] <ex0a> folorn: links or lynx i believe are both cli web browsers
[01:20] <folorn> thanks ex0a
[01:20] <folorn> brb dling it
[01:20] <XiaolinDraconis> can someone help me fix a partition? its off-topic so we need to do it in private
[01:20] <ahmad> wilee-nilee, would you say clonezilla is one of the most popular SE edition open-source project?
[01:21] <XiaolinDraconis> messed up using clonezilla
[01:21] <wilee-nilee> ahmad, I wouldn't to honestly, I use it though it is a great tool.
[01:21] <diverdude> when i installed the system i created  a super user. Is it possible to change the password for this user, which in turn also is the password to activate sudo?
[01:21] <wilee-nilee> know*
[01:21] <blackshirt> xiaolindraconis, maybe better stand up here, more  people hear your problems,get chances to fix
[01:22] <XiaolinDraconis> itd be nice but its a clonezilla/windows issue
[01:22] <ClientAlive> I think it would be nice to have the multilib stuff with gcc/ g++ but I wonder if it's something that is just automatically available to use with those compilers or do I have to configure the system a certian way first? Also whether it's still possible to choose either multilib or not once it is installed or is a big hassle to just use the compiler the old/ normal way?
[01:22] <escott> diverdude, passwd will prompt you to change the password
[01:22] <wilee-nilee> ahmad, I can post a correct sentence on a good day, I hope that makes sense. ;)
[01:22] <XiaolinDraconis> i copied a win7 partition to another drive, it worked, but windows doesnt see the new size
[01:22] <ClientAlive> that article talks about using it in your makefile so i assume it's just extra options you can use in your command?
[01:23] <folorn> yep that was it.
[01:23] <folorn> thanks
[01:23] <diverdude> escott: aha...so if i do passwd mysudouser    then it will change the password so that whenever i du sudo stuff, i need to use the new password?
[01:23] <vith> heh.. so i went back to the stable build of murmur and first thing i see after restarting the server is "UDP packets can be sent to and received from the server. Switching back to UDP mode."
[01:23] <vith> guess it's an issue with the dev snapshot
[01:24] <escott> diverdude, yes. be careful if you clicked the "encrypted home directory option"
[01:24] <diverdude> escott: luckily i did not
[01:24] <diverdude> escott: can anything go wrong=? I mean...i got some important stuff on this computer and dont really have time to reinstall it :/
[01:25] <escott> diverdude, not really
[01:26] <wilee-nilee> XiaolinDraconis, Hmm I have used clonezilla to clone my W7 setup many times and have reload it with no problems.
[01:26] <pitviper296> hey guys / girls, I'm having some trouble installing testdisk to ubuntu 12.04 from an rmp
[01:26] <pitviper296> can any one help me
[01:26] <snark> anyone any good with spdif   in and out concepts?
[01:26] <ahmad> wilee-nilee, just wondering if i am going to start using a program i would rather use the most supported one out there
[01:27] <escott> !rpm | pitviper296
[01:27] <diverdude> How can i make a script which kills a process named myprocess if it exists?
[01:27] <XiaolinDraconis> wilee-nilee, i used beginner mode to clone partition (not disk) from one drive to another, the new partition is larger, but windows doesnt know it
[01:27] <johnjacobjingerh> anyone here manage to get vnc server to run on ubuntu
[01:27] <johnjacobjingerh> ?
[01:27] <OerHeks> pitviper296, don't use .rpm, use the .deb version: better, use testdisk from software centre/synaptic
[01:27] <escott> diverdude, killall myprocess
[01:27] <alone> diverdude: ps and one if.. && kill :^
[01:27] <johnjacobjingerh> i have some questions regarding the .vnc/xstartup configuration
[01:28] <snark> is this spdif setup sane.......
[01:28] <wilee-nilee> ahmad, Most important would be a personal and subjective decision, what one thinks is will not necessarily be another’s opinion.
[01:28] <snark> onboard spdif optical out ------>usb sound card with spdif  in------>line out on usb card--------line in on speakers
[01:28] <pitviper296> OerHeks:  testdisk isn't in the repo for 12.04, I installed it before using " alien " which generated a .deb file but my flash drive corrupted
[01:28] <wilee-nilee> XiaolinDraconis, You made the partition ahead of time right?
[01:28] <Shirakawasuna> is there a centralized way to figure out why my monitor keeps going into sleep mode? I know that there are potentially many sources, but it'd be great if there was some centralized way to check quickly
[01:29] <XiaolinDraconis> wilee-nilee, yes but it was ext4
[01:29] <alone> purée irc.freenode.net:6667 #ubuntu 1622 personnes XD
[01:29] <OerHeks> pitviper296, yes it is.
[01:29] <alone> great channel =)
[01:29] <wilee-nilee> XiaolinDraconis, Ah, I reload to the same partitio type, that is probably a problem.
[01:29] <wilee-nilee> partition*
[01:29] <pitviper296> OerHeks:  sudo apt-get install testdisk " returns package not found "
[01:30] <wilee-nilee> XiaolinDraconis, Windows wont read a ext type partition as well.
[01:30] <diverdude> escott: that
[01:30] <diverdude> escott: thx :)
[01:30] <Shirakawasuna> or alternatively, a cli way to access the status of each setting
[01:30] <rcmaehl_webchat> Does anyone know of a program for Windows that has the same functionality or similar functionallity as hdparm for linux?
[01:30] <wilee-nilee> not a ext4 anyway.
[01:30] <cfhowlett> apacerimmer@EmperorOS:~$ apt-cache policy testdisk
[01:30] <cfhowlett> testdisk:
[01:30] <cfhowlett>   Installed: (none)
[01:30] <cfhowlett>   Candidate: 6.13-1
[01:30] <cfhowlett>   Version table:
[01:30] <FloodBot1> cfhowlett: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:30] <cfhowlett>      6.13-1 0
[01:31] <XiaolinDraconis> wilee-nilee, i bet the part of the drive beyond windows is formatted ext4 while the first half is ntfs
[01:31] <Ashur> hey guys, how are you doing? I was trying to install ubuntu on my laptop and I think I messed up. So I wanted to ask if anyone could help me out here?
[01:31] <Ashur> hey guys, how are you doing? I was trying to install ubuntu on my laptop and I think I messed up. So I wanted to ask if anyone could help me out here?
[01:31] <Ashur> hey guys, how are you doing? I was trying to install ubuntu on my laptop and I think I messed up. So I wanted to ask if anyone could help me out here?
[01:31] <FloodBot1> Ashur: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:31] <XiaolinDraconis> wilee-nilee, gparted says the partition is ntfs
[01:31] <XiaolinDraconis> and windows boots no problem
[01:31] <Ashur> hey guys, how are you doing? I was trying to install ubuntu on my laptop and I think I messed up. So I wanted to ask if anyone could help me out here?
[01:31] <alone> -___-
[01:31] <cfhowlett> !details|Ashur:
[01:31] <Ashur> you have partition problems aswell?
[01:31] <Ashur> you have partition problems aswell?
[01:31] <Ashur> you have partition problems aswell?
[01:31] <Ashur> you have partition problems aswell?
[01:31] <Ashur> you have partition problems aswell?
[01:31] <Ashur> you have partition problems aswell?
[01:32] <FloodBot1> Ashur: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:32] <alone> you're not forced to flood dude
[01:32] <pitviper296> OerHeks:  sudo apt-get install testdisk Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package testdisk
[01:32] <cfhowlett> pitviper296: it's in the universe repo.
[01:32] <cowsquad> is anybody experiencing systems errors on ubuntu 12.10?
[01:32] <snark> dude Im drowning here   stop flooding!
[01:33] <Ashur> I'm not doing this on purpose..wth is going on...
[01:33] <blackshirt> cowsquad,what you mean with system errors ? More detail please
[01:33] <wilee-nilee> XiaolinDraconis, I have never had that problem, it is a bit hard to extract from your posts exactly what happened or is going on
[01:33] <Ashur> I'm not doing this on purpose..wth is going on...
[01:33] <pitviper296> cfhowlett: how do I install from the universe repo? under options ?
[01:33] <Ashur> I'm not doing this on purpose..wth is going on...
[01:33] <alone> pitviper296: did you try apt-cache search ?
[01:33] <OerHeks> pitviper296, check your souce.list, uncomment universe if so. or use software centre
[01:33] <Ashur> I'm not doing this on purpose..wth is going on...
[01:33] <cfhowlett> pitviper296: make sure your universe repo is enabled.  Go into system update>settings and take a look
[01:33] <Ashur> I'm not doing this on purpose..wth is going on...
[01:33] <Ashur> I'm not doing this on purpose..wth is going on...
[01:33] <Ashur> I'm not doing this on purpose..wth is going on...
[01:33] <FloodBot1> Ashur: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:33] <cowsquad> like a message appear saying that the system is experiencing error. Do you wanna report that?
[01:34] <snark> Asham, Just type one line at a time and await a reply
[01:34] <XiaolinDraconis> Ashur, ur getting muted thats whats going on
[01:34] <blackshirt> cowsquad, just a simple core messages here
[01:34] <snark> hehe
[01:34] <XiaolinDraconis> wilee-nilee, heres what i did
[01:34] <DaemonicApathy> Sounds like Ashur has either a keyboard problem or a trolling problem.
[01:34] <Asham> hhç
[01:34] <alone> anyone can +b mister Ashur 'cause he doesn't want understand...
[01:34] <cfhowlett> DaemonicApathy: yep
[01:34] <cowsquad> blackshirt is your power button suspending your laptop or Do you have a PC
[01:35] <coolroot> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1299064/ <--- pls help i'm using ubuntu 10.04 32bit here thanx
[01:35] <tryingUbuntu> how to get the network manager icon back on the toolbar?
[01:35] <Fishscene> startnotify=echo -e "stuffhere" \n "moo". Output is: "stuffhere n moo". Any ideas?
[01:35] <blackshirt> cowsquad, yes, my powerbutton works normally
[01:36] <Fishscene> It's ignoring the \n (New line) entirely, despite the fact that the manpages say "echo -e" tells echo to respect the \n as a new line.
[01:36] <alone> Fishscene: i'm seeing
[01:36] <cowsquad> when I press my down and I choose suspend, it doesnt work
[01:36] <tryingUbuntu> dr_willis  do you know how to get the network manager icon on the toolbar near the clock
[01:36] <wilee-nilee> coolroot, What is that from?
[01:37] <XiaolinDraconis> wilee-nilee, i formatted a drive to 100GB partitions all ext4, then i booted to CZ and used beginner mode, told it to copy my sda1(win7) to sdb1(new ext4), it worked and i edited grub to point to sdb1, when i booted windows registered the original 30GB instead of the new 100
[01:37] <Ashur> sigh, I don't understand whats happening, never used IRC before...If anyone would be willing to help me, I would greatly appreciate it!!!
[01:37] <Ashur> sigh, I don't understand whats happening, never used IRC before...If anyone would be willing to help me, I would greatly appreciate it!!!
[01:37] <Ashur> sigh, I don't understand whats happening, never used IRC before...If anyone would be willing to help me, I would greatly appreciate it!!!
[01:37] <Ashur> sigh, I don't understand whats happening, never used IRC before...If anyone would be willing to help me, I would greatly appreciate it!!!
[01:37] <Ashur> sigh, I don't understand whats happening, never used IRC before...If anyone would be willing to help me, I would greatly appreciate it!!!
[01:37] <FloodBot1> Ashur: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:37] <Ashur> sigh, I don't understand whats happening, never used IRC before...If anyone would be willing to help me, I would greatly appreciate it!!!
[01:37] <Ashur> sigh, I don't understand whats happening, never used IRC before...If anyone would be willing to help me, I would greatly appreciate it!!!
[01:37] <pitviper296> cfhowlett:  so enabled universe and did sudo apt-get update now it should install testdisk with " sudo apt--get install testdisk
[01:37] <FloodBot1> Ashur: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:37] <coolroot> wilee-nilee, i do it on my terminal doin updates sudo apt-get update
[01:37] <cfhowlett> Ashur: nope.  get to a different computer or get a different keyboard.  You're killing the chanel.
[01:37] <Ashur> sigh, I don't understand whats happening, never used IRC before...If anyone would be willing to help me, I would greatly appreciate it!!!
[01:37] <Ashur> sigh, I don't understand whats happening, never used IRC before...If anyone would be willing to help me, I would greatly appreciate it!!!
[01:37] <tsimpson> Ashur: stop that
[01:37] <alone> Fishscene: startnotify=`echo -e test \nhi` nope ?
[01:37] <XiaolinDraconis> Ashur, u have used chat room before... this is no different
[01:37] <OerHeks> coolroot mozilla ppa is depreciated
[01:38] <cfhowlett> pitviper296: after enabling universe run sudo apt-get update THEN install testdisk.
[01:38] <Fishscene> alone: Try the following: echo -e "foo1" \n "foo2"
[01:38] <wilee-nilee> XiaolinDraconis, Was that the W7 OS?
[01:38] <tryingUbuntu> can someone help me get the network manager on the toolbar
[01:38] <trism> Fishscene: echo -e 'something\nsomethingelse'; or echo -e something \\n something else (bash seems to be grabbing one of the \)
[01:38] <coolroot> OerHeks, what do u mean?
[01:38] <OerHeks> coolroot, use https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/firefox-next with FF 17
[01:39] <alone> Fishscene: echo -e "foo1\nfoo2"
[01:39] <snark> tryingUbuntu, what desktop you have    gnome? LXDE?
[01:39] <wilee-nilee> coolroot, You have added a PPA it looks to be incorrect or the ppa is closed or not allowing your release.
[01:39] <XiaolinDraconis> wilee-nilee, yeah, cause ubuntu says its 100
[01:39] <pitviper296> cfhowlett:  that worked like a charm, wonder why the rpm worked last time but wouldn't let me run testdisk this time
[01:39] <XiaolinDraconis> wilee-nilee, windows thinks its still 30
[01:39] <Fishscene> alone, trism: echo -e "foo1\nfoo2" works as expected. I'll see if I can modify my variable to match this. Thanks!
[01:39] <machicola> what's a good unbuntu application for editing sound (.wav, .midi., .mp3, etc) files?
[01:39] <cfhowlett> pitviper296: glad it worked.
[01:39] <OerHeks> pitviper296, have fun
[01:39] <cfhowlett> machicola: audacity
[01:39] <tryingUbuntu_> can someone help me put the network manager on the toolbar
[01:40] <wilee-nilee> XiaolinDraconis, You can't run W7 in a ext4, it may read as a NTFS now but that is user error.
[01:40] <coolroot> OerHeks, so i'll have to copy that link and add it on my list replacing the old ppa for firefox?
[01:40] <DaemonicApathy> tryingUbuntu: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/possible-solutions-to-fix-the-missing-network-manager-icon-in-ubuntu-9-10.html might help
[01:40] <snark> tryingUbuntu, what desktop you have    gnome? LXDE? (im not asking again!)
[01:40] <XiaolinDraconis> wilee-nilee, it booted
[01:40] <pitviper296> cfhowlett:  still confused to why I had to do it diff this time thanks alot
[01:40] <blackshirt> tryingubuntu, run nm-applet
[01:40] <cfhowlett> machicola: audacity, ardour
[01:40] <OerHeks> coolroot, yes, your version is supported, make sure you delete that old one.
[01:40] <pitviper296> OerHeks: thanks alot , confused lol
[01:40] <machicola> great, thanks cfhowlett
[01:40] <alone> Fishscene: for your variable: startnotify=`echo -e "foo1 \n foo2"` i think
[01:41] <snark> BlackBishop, that wont put it onto the desktop for him
[01:41] <wilee-nilee> XiaolinDraconis, To be honest that is not a logical way of doing it or a valid cause and effect response, lol. ;)
[01:41] <ahmad> quick question: if i have a SSD 128gig hard drive and i want to clone it which includes windows 7 and ubuntu 12.10 dual boot.. i need an external hard drive with 128GB or greater empty space for the image?
[01:41] <alone> Fishscene: doesn't work, sorry x)
[01:41] <DaemonicApathy> Yes, ahmad.
[01:41] <ahmad> Thank you DaemonicApathy
[01:42] <XiaolinDraconis> wilee-nilee, well i still have the original partition ill reformat the 100 wipe it clean make sure its ntfs and try again
[01:42] <johnjacobjingerh> all i'm having an issue with vnc4server... i have it working, but it seems none of my panels are showing up
[01:42] <snark> spdif help    bump
[01:42] <johnjacobjingerh> and neither is the sidebar
[01:42] <johnjacobjingerh> i only get the terminal window and the desktop background... any ideas?
[01:43] <wilee-nilee> ahmad, The clone is only the size of the data with clonezilla, but the partitions that are used to reload it have to be the same size or bigger.
[01:43] <snark> johnjacobjingerh, in the treminal   type   "gnome-session"  (if your using   gnome that is!
[01:43] <wilee-nilee> XiaolinDraconis, Should work fine then.
[01:44] <XiaolinDraconis> wilee-nilee, be back in ten to either thank you, or say i told you so ;)
[01:44] <wilee-nilee> XiaolinDraconis, lol. ;)
[01:44] <roy_muzz> hi, I have a 64 bit Ubuntu LTS 10.04 headless server that i just upgraded to 12.04. The upgrade did not seem super clean and there was a "failed to read on buffer copy for md5hash: Input/output error" when installing bash-completion. The server is running fine now but I am worried that it wont come back up after a reboot. Any commands that I can run to check whether the machine will come back up? How can I find out whether the install was clean?
[01:45] <johnjacobjingerh> snark... gnome is running i think
[01:45] <johnjacobjingerh> i see the desktop background and window decorations
[01:45] <johnjacobjingerh> i just cant get to any of the panels or the sidebar thingy
[01:46] <snark> johnjacobjingerh, well you could do a reboot now and see if the errors gone ie you get a full desktop
[01:47] <johnjacobjingerh> snark... i'm talking about using VNC
[01:47] <johnjacobjingerh> i get a desktop fine when i have the physical machine
[01:47] <johnjacobjingerh> it's when i am using the VNC program to remote in that i'm not getting the menu bars
[01:47] <johnjacobjingerh> just a terminal
[01:48] <snark> johnjacobjingerh, are you VNCing into a virtual machine?
[01:48] <johnjacobjingerh> no
[01:48] <johnjacobjingerh> a physical machine in a different building
[01:48] <tiox> USB modeswitch is still being a pain for my LG Turbo. I know it's a modeswitch issue now because when I plug it in using Windows, it switches over, then I reboot into Ubuntu and it works.
[01:49] <snark> johnjacobjingerh, Im not sure what the issue is    it is a desktop issue for sure   also you still have full control of the other node
[01:49] <tiox> I especially need it because for some reason or another, it vehemently refuses to work in Windows with the vendor-branded AT&T Communication Manager by SmithMicro.
[01:50] <johnjacobjingerh> snark. what do you mean I still have full control over the other node?
[01:50] <wilee-nilee> roy_muzz, I would check in with #ubuntu-server
[01:50] <roy_muzz> thanks wilee-nilee
[01:50] <wilee-nilee> no problem
[01:50] <snark> johnjacobjingerh, via VNC to other computer
[01:51] <johnjacobjingerh> well yea.. that's what i am needing to do
[01:51] <johnjacobjingerh> I am trying to VNC in...
[01:51] <johnjacobjingerh> so yes i should hae control
[01:51] <johnjacobjingerh> on the physical computer the desktop is fine, it's when i try to remote in with VNC from my laptop that i have issues
[01:52] <johnjacobjingerh> i thought perhaps it had something to do with my .vnc/xstartup config, but dont think so
[01:52] <CryDay> Yo guys, can smbdy explain why I have port 8080 after domain.org? So it looks like domain.org:8080/something
[01:52] <snark> johnjacobjingerh, what Im saying is that the other PC has the problem  not your laptop
[01:53]  * johnjacobjingerh smacks head
[01:53] <johnjacobjingerh> no kidding
[01:53] <johnjacobjingerh> i know it's a server side config i'm asking what might be the problem
[01:53] <blackshirt> cryday, proxies
[01:53] <johnjacobjingerh> i know my laptop doesnt have issues all i'm using is the viewer
 emm... what do you mean?
[01:54] <snark> johnjacobjingerh, try this if possible   create a new user on remote and login and see if the problem is still there
[01:56] <blackshirt> cryday, commonly that was proxy server or alternative http web services
 soo... I need to watch ngnix proxy configs... ok.
[01:57] <johnjacobjingerh> snark: i am not sure how to connect as a different user ith vnc
[01:57] <johnjacobjingerh> :-\
[01:58] <snark> johnjacobjingerh, you will need root account on REMOTE PC
[01:59] <johnjacobjingerh> i have root access
[01:59] <johnjacobjingerh> i have a user account
[01:59] <johnjacobjingerh> i have multple user accounts
[01:59] <johnjacobjingerh> i cant get my VNC client to connect as a different user
[01:59] <johnjacobjingerh> it connects to whatever is logged in
[01:59] <escott> johnjacobjingerh, thats how vnc works
[01:59] <johnjacobjingerh> yes I know that escott
[01:59] <johnjacobjingerh> snark doesnt seem to
[02:00] <johnjacobjingerh> he wants me to connect as a different user
[02:00] <johnjacobjingerh> I cant
[02:00] <johnjacobjingerh> it doesnt give me an option
[02:00] <escott> johnjacobjingerh, if you want to have some ability to use vnc with other login users you need to start vnc with the display manager
[02:00] <johnjacobjingerh> i dont i only want to have it with one user account
[02:00] <johnjacobjingerh> and i currently have it starting gnome
[02:00] <ahmad> how do i enable certain programs to start as a super user such as Oracle VM VirtualBox
[02:00] <Jordan_U> Arizona: OK, I'm back. Can you pastebin your /etc/default/grub by running "pastebinit /etc/default/grub"?
[02:00] <johnjacobjingerh> i can start that no problem, i can see my icons my window decorations
[02:01] <ahmad> instead of going to command line and typing sudo virtualbox
[02:01] <johnjacobjingerh> i cant see the menu bars or the panels or the side bar
[02:01] <escott> ahmad, you could mark them setuid, but its a security risk
[02:01] <johnjacobjingerh> so navigating is pretty difficult
[02:01] <johnjacobjingerh> i can also see the terminal window on the rmote machine
[02:02] <Jordan_U> ahmad: You should not need to run Virtualbox as root. Why do you think that you do?
[02:03] <ahmad> its wierd jordan i have /root/VirtualBox VMs and /home/ahmad/VirtualBox VMs
[02:03] <ahmad> i can not import the root created vm to normal virtualbox
[02:03] <Jordan_U> ahmad: You should never have run VirtualBox as root in the first place. Why did you?
[02:03] <ahmad> well i could move the file but is that safe?
[02:04] <johnjacobjingerh> yes if it's a vm file sure you can
[02:04] <johnjacobjingerh> but then u have to readd it
[02:04] <ahmad> you know i don't recall doing that, perhaps it was during installation i used sudo command
[02:04] <johnjacobjingerh> but again NEVER USE ROOT FOR VBOX
[02:04] <johnjacobjingerh> or anything for that matter
[02:04] <bkerensa> !justask | johnjacobjingerh
[02:04] <wastrel> could try chowning them
[02:04] <johnjacobjingerh> i didnt ask to ask???
[02:05] <ahmad> thnx, i got it :) makes sense now i am just going to copy files to my home folder, remove the root folder and import again
[02:05] <johnjacobjingerh> bkerensa i dont think u mean that to be to me do you?  cuz i never asked to ask a question
[02:05] <bkerensa> johnjacobjingerh: this is not a discussion channel so if you have a specific question you need help with then please ask on one line so as not to congest the channel
[02:05] <johnjacobjingerh> I did WTF
[02:05] <snark> johnjacobjingerh, ask the person who has root access to the remote pc to help you
[02:05] <johnjacobjingerh> i am asking questions
[02:05] <Cong> !ask >johnjacobjingerh
[02:05] <bazhang> johnjacobjingerh, no cursing here
[02:05] <johnjacobjingerh> Snark I have root access
[02:05] <johnjacobjingerh> it's my machine
[02:06] <bazhang> !enter | johnjacobjingerh
[02:06] <wilee-nilee> bkerensa, Nice presentation at puppetlabs on saturday. ;)
[02:07] <Cong> !ask >cong
[02:08] <Ashur> hello
[02:10] <Ashur> Hey guys, I have just tried to install ubuntu for the first time, and I think I messed up my hard drive. If someone would be willing to help me out it would be greatly appreciated!!
[02:10] <Jordan_U> Ashur: "Messed up" in what way?
[02:10] <snark> Asham, messed up how?
[02:11] <Ashur> well I used to have 3 partitions on my hard drive when I still had windows on it
[02:11] <Ashur> I was trying to format all 3 partitions and merge them together
[02:11] <XiaolinDraconis> told ya so
[02:12] <Ashur> iḿ installing from a bootable usb stick btw
[02:12] <bazhang> !behelpful | XiaolinDraconis
[02:12] <wilee-nilee> XiaolinDraconis, What happened?
[02:12] <johnjacobjingerh> snark. to answer your question I have root access.. it is my desktop computer in a remote site... I am able to ssh into the machine, and I am able to VNC I am just not able to see the panels on my remote desktop... only the background the icons and folders on the background, and the terminal window.. I m able to right click and what not... it seems gnome panels and the sidebar are the only thing
[02:12] <johnjacobjingerh>  not showing up.... I will follow up with a screen shot in a sec
[02:12] <XiaolinDraconis> wilee-nilee, well the problem isnt as first suspected
[02:12] <Asham> yes
[02:13]  * RedSeraph takes a seat.
[02:13] <Ashur> and well now I can't format my hdd anymore, keep getting an error dev/sda5 is in use while there is no such partitions(I think it's a partition)
[02:13] <XiaolinDraconis> wilee-nilee, its still booting from sda1, even tho grub says to go to sdb1
[02:13] <tryingUbuntu> can I reinstall the os without loosing any files of mine
[02:13] <XiaolinDraconis> wilee-nilee, im guessing thats a problem with the chainloader?
[02:13] <Jordan_U> Ashur: You wanted to delete all three partitions and install Ubuntu taking up all of the space on the drive, Is that correct?
[02:14] <Ashur> yeah
[02:14] <Ashur> that was my intention
[02:14] <wilee-nilee> XiaolinDraconis, Two identical windows have intrinsic problems for grub.
[02:14] <wilee-nilee> XiaolinDraconis, The sdb1 have a bootflag?
 I fixed that shi with port... but now I´ve trouble: after forum/index.php? I´ve wwwRedirect. Looks like domain.org/forum/index.php?wwwRedirect. I don´t have any ideas
[02:14] <XiaolinDraconis> wilee-nilee, lemme check i dont think so
[02:15] <Jordan_U> XiaolinDraconis: Having two filesystems whose Universally Unique Identifiers are the same (and thus not universally unique) is likely to cause many problems.
[02:15] <tryingUbuntu> can I reinstall the os without loosing any of my files
[02:15] <wilee-nilee> Jordan_U, Glad you are here you have a better grasp on this area. ;)
[02:15]  * RedSeraph raises her hand. "When some one gets a moment, I have a question about the nvidia problem with 12.10."
[02:15] <wilee-nilee> much better, lol'
[02:16] <Jordan_U> Ashur: What are you actually doing now, and what is the exact error message you see?
[02:16] <XiaolinDraconis> Jordan_U, yeah i didnt think of that, i assumed it would treat it logically and go for what i pointed at
[02:16] <bazhang> RedSeraph, just ask the channel
[02:16] <XiaolinDraconis> wilee-nilee, and no my boot flag is on ubuntu
[02:16] <Cong> !ask > RedSeraph
[02:17] <johnjacobjingerh> where can I post screenshots for others to see?
[02:17] <Jordan_U> !screenshot | johnjacobjingerh
[02:17] <johnjacobjingerh> ah thanks
[02:17] <XiaolinDraconis> johnjacobjingerh, imgur.com
[02:17] <Ashur> umm, lets see, what i'm looking at right now, is disks I have my hdd selected and it has no volumes
[02:17] <RedSeraph> Okay, bazhang. I'm installing 12.10 from usb, and the installing works fine stock, but after rebooting, it has an error about unable to idle channel's one and two. My searchfu has only brought me to finding out the nvidia drivers have a package error.
[02:17] <Ashur> but I can still delete a partition
[02:17] <Jordan_U> Ashur: Do you know how to open a terminal window?
[02:18] <wilee-nilee> XiaolinDraconis, Ubuntu doesn't need it windows does, but as suggested that is only a start, you could unplug the sda, if it is a desktop, and if the sdb1 is good and you have run a update-grub it should boot with a flag.
[02:18] <RedSeraph> Thank you for the update, Ubottu and Cong.
[02:18] <Ashur> no, I don't actuall
[02:18] <Ashur> actually*
[02:18] <wilee-nilee> not sure where the ubuntu is though
[02:18] <snark> johnjacobjingerh, not trying to be rude but its not really needed (the screenshot) but if you must ,try pasteimg.org
[02:18] <Ashur> nvm, found it
[02:18] <Ashur> XD
[02:18] <XiaolinDraconis> wilee-nilee, i need ubuntu to have the flag, thats where grub is, and that chainloads windows
[02:19] <RedSeraph> My question is, how do I side load or even work around the driver error with installing. I can't bring up terminal and the error message just repeats.
[02:19] <johnjacobjingerh> snark:  http://imagebin.org/232932
[02:19] <wilee-nilee> XiaolinDraconis, Ubuntu does not need a bootflag.
[02:19] <RedSeraph> *? not .
[02:19] <Ashur> have the terminal open
[02:19] <XiaolinDraconis> wilee-nilee, thats the way its been forever now
[02:19] <johnjacobjingerh> snark: why do you recommend I get a root user then? I am the only user on the system.. there is no admin.. i have created a user account like you said, but i cant tell vnc to connect as a different user
[02:20] <Jordan_U> Ashur: OK. Please run "sudo parted -l" and copy and paste the output to http://pastebin.ubuntu.com and post a link to that output here.
[02:20] <johnjacobjingerh> i should mention this is a fresh ubuntu install i am working with
[02:20] <XiaolinDraconis> Jordan_U, if i put a hidden flag o sda1 would that help?
[02:20] <Jordan_U> XiaolinDraconis: No.
[02:21] <johnjacobjingerh> snark: i followed this guide to the letter:  http://www.server-world.info/en/note?os=Ubuntu_11.04&p=x&f=2   granted it is for 11.04 not 12.04
[02:21] <Ashur> here you go
[02:21] <Ashur> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1299121/
[02:21] <XiaolinDraconis> Jordan_U, ok so i should try to make an img of it and store it on another partition then delete.. right?
[02:21] <wilee-nilee> XiaolinDraconis, Here is a screenshot of my gparted. http://imagebin.org/232933
[02:22] <Seven_Six_Two> exit
[02:22] <Jordan_U> XiaolinDraconis: That sounds like a good plan, yes.
[02:22] <XiaolinDraconis> wilee-nilee, but the real question is, where did u install grub? to sda1 or sda3?
[02:22] <wilee-nilee> XiaolinDraconis, Grub is in all the linux installs and the mbr.
[02:23] <XiaolinDraconis> wilee-nilee, and being in the mbr is why it works for you imguessing
[02:23] <XiaolinDraconis> sorry sticky keyboard... wish i was home right now
[02:23] <Ashur> btw, i'm running the usb bootable from the 1tb hdd, I want to format the 320GB and use that for Ubuntu
[02:23] <snark> johnjacobjingerh, do you have a bottom panel inside the remote pc?
[02:23] <johnjacobjingerh> nope
[02:24] <samurai2> dr_willis : ic. I'll try it
[02:24] <johnjacobjingerh> no panels at all.. i can see windows, icons, and terminal on remote screen just not the panels or the sidebar
[02:24] <nimda28> anyone has experience with renders farms with DRQueue ??
[02:24] <johnjacobjingerh> they do show up on the physical machine tho
[02:25] <XiaolinDraconis> what should i use to make this img of sda1?
[02:25] <snark> johnjacobjingerh, can you right click on the remote ?
[02:25] <johnjacobjingerh> yep
[02:25] <johnjacobjingerh> that works..
[02:26] <Jordan_U> Ashur: Do you have any idea why there is a device called /dev/mapper/ubuntu-root which appears to be related to some sort of RAID?
[02:27] <onnysugara> hi all
[02:27] <nimda28> render cluster , anyone??
[02:27] <onnysugara> pls help me using ubuntu 12.04 lte
[02:27] <snark> johnjacobjingerh, so try to find the settings for the desktop
[02:27] <onnysugara> i want to sync iphone 5 on ubuntu.
[02:27] <XiaolinDraconis> looks like clonezilla will work
[02:27] <onnysugara> i want sync, application, photo
[02:28] <XiaolinDraconis> *crosses fingers*
[02:28] <xangua> onnysugara: are you using ubuntu 12.10 ¿
[02:28] <johnjacobjingerh> snark... for the display or for the desktop (like where i can select backgrounds)
[02:29] <RedSeraph-> I seem to be having other troubles with my machines.
[02:29] <cfhowlett> onnysugara: No can do.  Yet.  MAYBE later.
[02:29] <onnysugara> cfhowlett  tnx for the info
[02:29] <snark> johnjacobjingerh, for the desktop
[02:29] <machicola> does almost every dist of linux use x windows?
[02:29] <machicola> for the window system
[02:30] <machicola> (if that question even makes sense)
[02:30] <dniMretsaM> machicola: yes.
[02:30] <johnjacobjingerh> snark: ok... i can change backgrounds lol... and launcher icon sizes (which i maxed out to see if they appear... they dont)
[02:30] <Ashur> is that a ubuntu install? because I already had tried to install ubuntu, but the first time I got an error at the end, because I didnt format the hdd correctly, and It told me to restart, after the pc restarted, I got a black screen and nothing happened. after which I rebooted and started the bootable usb stick again, iḿ working from try ubuntu at the moment
[02:31] <johnjacobjingerh> i did however find i cant get into display settings RANDR too old or something like that
[02:31] <snark> johnjacobjingerh, forget about RANDR  is not what you need!
[02:32] <johnjacobjingerh> ok well the only other option is appearance which lets me change the desktopbackground and icon sizes, but
[02:32] <onnysugara> xangua.   i use ubuntu 12.04 lte
[02:32] <johnjacobjingerh> errr,,, but nothing else
[02:32] <johnjacobjingerh> onnysugara, LTS*?
[02:33] <xangua> onnysugara: that only supports until iOS 4.2
[02:33] <cg2916> Apt-get is stuck, returns this error: http://pastebin.com/DTbwdT5g
[02:33] <dniMretsaM> machicola: There is also Wayland, but pretty much nothing uses it yet. Except RebeccaBlackOS, which most people use to test Wayland.
[02:33] <johnjacobjingerh> cg2916, u have something else using it
[02:33] <onnysugara> johnjacobjingerh  yes lts.  tnx for correction lol
[02:33] <dwarder> what can i do with that PHP Warning:  PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/lib/php5/20090626+lfs/expect.so' - libexpect.so.5.44.1.15: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory in Unknown on line 0
[02:33] <dwarder> "PHP Warning:  PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/lib/php5/20090626+lfs/expect.so' - libexpect.so.5.44.1.15: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory in Unknown on line 0
[02:33] <dwarder> "
[02:33] <dwarder> sorry
[02:34] <Ashur> the error I got was, installing boot loader failed I think
[02:34] <johnjacobjingerh> cg2916, do u have apt-get running elsewhere?
[02:34] <cg2916> johnjacobjungerh, how do i find what's using it
[02:34] <onnysugara> xangua i use ios 6.  lol
[02:34] <johnjacobjingerh> well do u have anything open like the package manager
[02:34] <cg2916> johnjacobjungerh, apt-get is not on System Monitor
[02:34] <johnjacobjingerh> ooooo wth just happened....   after the last upgrade I cant open my second partition... says unable to mount 893GB partition
[02:34] <dwarder> i guess i forgot to run apt-get update befor my: sudo apt-get install curl libcurl3  php5-curl
[02:34] <machicola> RebeccaBlackOS, lol
[02:34] <dwarder> is there a way to fix it?
[02:34] <johnjacobjingerh> cg2916, but do u have the package manager open?
[02:34] <Ashur> thnx for the help btw,
[02:35] <cg2916> johnjacobjungerh, no
[02:35] <johnjacobjingerh> well... i guess to be certain, log off then on again
[02:35] <snark> cg2916,     johnjacobjingerh  is right
[02:35] <xangua> onnysugara: anyways, if you were using ubuntu 12.10 wich is supposed to work with it, after a few months when a new version of iOS is released, the support will break...is a never ending story
[02:35] <cg2916> snark, ok
[02:35] <ToyImp> I just installed sendmail by apt-get. I am testing out the php mail function. Should I restart the apache server or my linux box for it to work? the php page is hanging atm
[02:35] <johnjacobjingerh> yes i have been around the block with linux a few times... tho i'd have to say this is my first time with ubuntu since like 9.04 or something crazy
[02:36] <ToyImp> nevermind. it just took a while to send for some reason. :\
[02:36] <johnjacobjingerh> also my first time using a GUI in eons
[02:36] <cg2916> snark, any change this totally blow up in my face when i relog? i've become scared to restart because of bad experiences
[02:36] <johnjacobjingerh> lol
[02:36]  * RedSeraph continues the poke the zombie-tower.
[02:36] <johnjacobjingerh> cg2916, did u change something recently??
[02:36] <alone> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njos57IJf-0
[02:37] <snark> cg2916, well if your not back in 5     hehe! :P
[02:37] <cg2916> johnjacobjungerh, installed virtualbox, then tried to uninstall
[02:37] <johnjacobjingerh> oh prob fine
[02:37] <cg2916> snark, so i'll be fine?
[02:37] <johnjacobjingerh> that probably what locked up apt-get too... maybe it was still uninstalling while you were trying to install
[02:37] <Ashur> Jordan U still there?
[02:38] <cg2916> johnjacobjungerh, it got stuck on "Stopped Virtualbox kernel modules" this has happened before and i got out, i can't remember how thugh
[02:38] <cg2916> though*
[02:40] <dwarder> can anyone help me with this "PHP Warning:  PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/lib/php5/20090626+lfs/expect.so' - libexpect.so.5.44.1.15: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory in Unknown on line 0"
[02:40] <dwarder> i have this /usr/lib/php5/20090626+lfs/expect.so file
[02:41] <johnjacobjingerh> cg2916, i gotta install virtualbox right now myself.. i'll let you knowhow it goes
[02:41] <cg2916> johnjacobjungerh, this is the second time it's broken. i obviously don't learn. i'd be on windows if it weren't for my own stupidity.
[02:41] <trism> RedSeraph: looks like a bunch of people are having the problem with nouveau crashing if I understood your issue, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2065876&page=2 sounds similar and suggests using nomodeset and then installing the proprietary nvidia drivers
[02:42] <dwarder> why cann't i load this file
[02:42] <dwarder> it is on the place
[02:42] <dwarder> anyone?
[02:42] <RedSeraph> I have been trying that, along with disabling splash, trism. The problem is that terminal doesn't start up properly when trying to boot after installed.
[02:42] <wastrel> dwarder: you probably need to install libexpect
[02:42] <codefyre> dwarder , did u try reinstalling it ?
[02:42] <trism> RedSeraph: with nomodeset?
[02:43] <codefyre> dwarder, apt-get remove libexpect-php5 ; apt-get install libexpect-php5
[02:43] <RedSeraph> Yes, trism.
[02:43] <dwarder> 5
[02:44] <RedSeraph> It's my little brother's black box that some how manages to run. I have no idea how a single 1.6 core with 1gb of ram was able to run Borderlands 2 and skyrim, but it randomly died yesterday.
[02:44] <dwarder> codefyre: didn't help
[02:44] <dwarder> codefyre: same error
[02:45] <RedSeraph> Anyways, to the point the original install with splash removed and nomodeset didn't work.
[02:45] <codefyre> dwarder, output of dpkg -l libexpect-php5 ?
[02:45] <bastion> Hello all
[02:46] <dwarder> codefyre: http://pastebin.com/JcdH6Svi
[02:46] <trism> RedSeraph: didn't work as in didn't boot at all, or you get no desktop after the boot, because I'm seeing bugs about that
[02:46] <trism> RedSeraph: after log in that is
[02:47] <codefyre> dwarder, sorry dpkg -L libexpect-php5 , my bad
[02:47] <RedSeraph> trism: failed to get past the linuxboot. just the nouveau errors mentioned on bug threads.
[02:47] <bastion> Does anyone know why ubuntu 12.10 corrupts the SD card on Pandaboard ARM? After a clean install of 12.04 and a do-release-upgrade after 2 reboots the system no longer boots and the root partition is corrupted
[02:47] <dwarder> codefyre: http://pastebin.com/GUTF0U6g
[02:48] <codefyre> dwarder , is this expect.so file actually loaded from the php ini files ? check /etc/php5/conf.d
[02:48] <Ashur> jordan U, still there bro? was messing with that last disk and it crashed on me...
[02:48] <wilee-nilee> bastion, Have you tried just installing 12.10, that information really means nothing.
[02:48] <dwarder> codefyre:  i have expect.ini in this dir with: extension=expect.so
[02:50] <bastion> wilee-nilee: yes, but there is no preinstalled image for 12.10 on arm and I haven't found any install instructions for this version thus far
[02:51] <codefyre> dwarder , are there any other extension files loaded , do they load correctly , are they also installed in the same path as expect.so ?
[02:51] <dwarder> codefyre: file /usr/lib/php5/20090626+lfs/expect.so
[02:51] <dwarder> /usr/lib/php5/20090626+lfs/expect.so: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, BuildID[sha1]=0xc53e733cf6396cf48e68af719dfead61fb7cbe1b, stripped
[02:51] <trism> RedSeraph: I do see bug 1048701 though it seems to be fixed for some people
[02:51] <dwarder> codefyre: ls in the dir where the expect.so file is : curl.so  expect.so  gd.so  mcrypt.so  mysqli.so  mysql.so  pdo_mysql.so  pdo.so  uuid.so
[02:51] <cg2916> johnjacobjingerh, relog didn't work
[02:52] <cg2916> johnjacobjingerh, should i restart
[02:52] <dwarder> codefyre: on my server everything works exept curl
[02:52] <dwarder> except
[02:52] <salvadorfl> help after updating to ubuntu 12.10 not external cd-rom detection
[02:52] <Ashur> anyway, trying to install again... got that last disk deleted, and formated my hdd and made a new partition, hope it will work this time
[02:53] <Ashur> formatted8
[02:53] <blackshirt> ashur, good luck
[02:53] <salvadorfl> does somebody knows how to fix it?
[02:53] <Ashur> thnx:p
[02:53] <blackshirt> malsasa :d
[02:54] <wilee-nilee> bastion, I'm not familiar with ARM, but I found this not sure if it is relevant. http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2012/10/18/ubuntu-12-10-quantal-quetzal-released/
[02:54] <natsirt> yolo
[02:54] <natsirt> What is the best way to make a load balancer from the command line?
[02:54] <RedSeraph> Thank you, trism. I will go through the bug list and see how they fixed it.
[02:55] <salvadorfl> help me noexternal cd-rom detection
[02:55] <dwarder> codefyre: from phpinfo i've found out that culr is loaded but not expect
[02:56] <SuperMiguel> so i have a gyro that gives me x and y... how do i get the angle from it??
[02:56] <crimsonmane> salvadorfl: file a bug report. it's getting to be a common problem. maybe go back to 12.04
[02:57] <dwarder> codefyre: will try to remove expect in a radical way
[02:57] <bjrohan> What is the difference in directory color in bash? Some directories are merely a blue color, others are green (same as text) but highlighted
[02:57] <wilee-nilee> bastion, With 12.10 they have put more on the main cd, and stopped others like the alternative have you investigated that what you want is probably available, but just in a different place.
[02:57] <dwarder> codefyre: using  apt-get --purge remove
[02:58] <huixhui> Hello every one
[02:58] <codefyre> dwarder , you can try
[02:58] <huixhui> 我是第一次使用Ubuntu
[02:58] <cfhowlett> !cn|huixhui:
[02:59] <huixhui> 恩
[02:59] <bastion> wilee-nilee: actually the only images i can use for arm are the OMAP4 installs, but since 12.10 they no longer ship "pre-installed" images; where you just flash them to the SD and when you run them they autopartition and set the path for clean install
[02:59] <bastion> since they only have install images now, i have no idea if i have to partition the SD myself, or set up something else
[02:59] <wilee-nilee> bastion, Ah.
[02:59] <huixhui> think you ubottu
[03:00] <Radikal08> Help! I am trying to install aircrack-ng, because I have obviously forgot my password for my router................................... I getn an error message saying something about iw:i386, so I found a link from googel to download the *.deb version, and it starts up Ubuntu Software Centre to download aircrack-ng, but i get the same error message "cannot install "iw:i386". Anyone know why?
[03:00] <cfhowlett> !aircrack|Radikal08:
[03:00] <Radikal08> thats what im trying to install!
[03:00] <wilee-nilee> Radikal08, Why not use the reset button on the router?
[03:00] <cfhowlett> Radikal08: aircrack is not supported on this channel
[03:00] <codefyre> Radikal08 , can't u just reset the router
[03:00] <crimsonmane> Radikal08: if you hard-wire to the router, you don't need a password. at that time you can also set a new password.
[03:00] <dwarder> codefyre: do i need expect php module?
[03:00] <RedSeraph> trism: Bug 1043518 is exactly the problem I am having. I am going through the list to see what their work around is.
[03:01] <crimsonmane> if you insist on aircrack then you're trying to break into someone else router that is not your own. don't be a liar, just be honest.
[03:01] <woot-0854> I used aircrack to learn with
[03:01] <Radikal08> Okay fine. I am not trying to connect to my own router but to a neighbours router which have a faster broadband connection so i can play my games on PS 3 online without any lag.
[03:01] <Radikal08> I was trying to download aircrack, and thats where my problem is
[03:01] <codefyre> dwarder , thats upto you, what are you doing ?
[03:01] <Radikal08> but if it isnt supported here, i respect that and will look elsewhere
[03:01] <RedSeraph> trism: I am also running the 32bit Ubuntu 12.10, not the 64.
[03:02] <cfhowlett> Radikal08: wrong channel.  Good luck, though.
[03:02] <codefyre> dwarder , if you don't need it , than you can just comment it out in the ini file
[03:03] <Radikal08> okay can someone help me t ofind a channel to aircrack? Because aircrack is invite only, i
[03:03] <Radikal08> oh crap i wasnt supposed to send it
[03:03] <Radikal08> because i knwo its not spportred here, but im desperate... my landlord is giving me a 3Mbits internet shared with 12 people and i cant stand it anymroe
[03:03] <trism> RedSeraph: I did notice the bug earlier, though I didn't mention it because it is supposed to be fixed in the kernel in 12.10 when it was released (though reading the comments now other people are still having problems)
[03:03] <cfhowlett> Radikal08: see the aircrack page for aircrack support
[03:03] <Radikal08> i really need to use my neighbours broadband.. does anyone know where on irc i can gt help?
[03:03] <Radikal08> oka
[03:03] <Radikal08> ty  cfhowlett
[03:04] <cfhowlett> Radikal08: good luck
[03:04] <dwarder> codefyre: thanks
[03:04] <crimsonmane> Radikal08: sudo apt-get install aircrack-ng
[03:04] <codefyre> dwarder, so you weren't using expect ?
[03:04] <Radikal08> crimsonmane: it doesnt work
[03:04] <crimsonmane> tell me more
[03:04] <RedSeraph> trism: Ideas?
[03:04] <dwarder> codefyre: i used to, a long time ago, so i forgot
[03:05] <woot-0854> ot- I cant connect to hollywood.ca.us.undernet.org where should I take this issue?
[03:05] <codefyre> dwarder , ohh ok
[03:05] <Radikal08> its wining about this.....
[03:05] <Radikal08> crimsonmane: Package aircrack-ng is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[03:05] <Radikal08> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[03:05] <Radikal08> is only available from another source
[03:05] <Radikal08> However the following packages replace it:
[03:05] <Radikal08>   iw:i386 iw
[03:05] <Radikal08> E: Package 'aircrack-ng' has no installation candidate
[03:05] <FloodBot1> Radikal08: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:06] <crimsonmane> sudo apt-cache search aircrack
[03:08] <wastrel> you don't need sudo for apt-cache search
[03:08] <crimsonmane> w/e it doesn't show up anyhow
[03:09] <crimsonmane> http://www.aircrack-ng.org/
[03:09] <trism> RedSeraph: not really sure unfortunately, if you could ctrl+alt+f1 or f2, I would try installing nvidia-current (plus the linux-headers if they aren't already installed) and see if you can boot
[03:10] <c_smith> Hi, I installed Cinnamon and am looking to get rid of Unity (I never use it) in Ubuntu 12.10, what packages would I need to remove?
[03:10] <RedSeraph> I am unable to open terminal, trism. I get the _ and no input gets put in. Either with CAf1 or f2.
[03:11] <Guest21342> hi
[03:12] <Guest21342> are people here using ubuntu?
[03:12] <cfhowlett> Guest21342: yes.
[03:12] <Guest21342> wo
[03:12] <Guest21342> cool
[03:12] <c_smith> Guest21342, look at the topic and take a guess.
[03:12] <Guest21342> &4yea right dude
[03:12] <crimsonmane> c_smith: if you're going to use cinnamon, and want to remove unity, it's probably just better that you install Linux Mint who created Cinnamon in the first place.
[03:12] <Guest21342> you think i don't know that
[03:12] <cfhowlett> Guest21342: this is the support channel.  Have you an issue you need help with.
[03:12] <cfhowlett> ?
[03:12] <trism> RedSeraph: do you know what nvidia card you have?
[03:13] <woot-0854> I use ubuntu to fix pc's its great :)
[03:13] <Guest21342> well, not that i know of... just testing out the irc program
[03:13] <c_smith> crimsonmane, I actually am looking to give the Ubuntu base an overhaul (kinda proof-of-concept and also so I know I can do this)
[03:13] <cfhowlett> Guest21342: please see #ubuntu-offtopic for general chitchat.  Thank you.
[03:13] <myitsh524> wana buy bank logins
[03:13] <c_smith> and I'm not too fond of some of the changes Mint has made to Ubuntu
[03:14] <RedSeraph> trism: 7800GT
[03:14] <crimsonmane> c_smith: i understand. best of luck to you. i personally don't think you should bother re-inventing the wheel
[03:14] <c_smith> oh, most of my changes will mainly be aesthetic.
[03:14] <cfhowlett> myitsh524: you are REALLY in the wrong channel.
[03:14] <c_smith> but thanks, crimsonmane
[03:14] <RedSeraph> trism: That, unfortuantely, is not a typo.
[03:15] <myitsh524> wich chanel i shoud go on
[03:15] <RedSeraph> 'Wanna buy bank logins'? No! It's 'Vendor buy the bank guards!'
[03:15] <c_smith> myitsh524, jail, that's illegal.
[03:15] <cfhowlett> myitsh524: #whitecollarcrime or #fbi
[03:16]  * RedSeraph sighs. "Kids these days."
[03:16] <BlackBsd> lol
[03:17] <bastion> lol
[03:17] <c_smith> cfhowlett, personally, I wouldn't have helped the dude.
[03:17] <cfhowlett> c_smith: better to send him on his way than have him foul up this channel IMHO
[03:17] <BlackBsd> so did kopete get replaced by some communications tool
[03:18] <trism> RedSeraph: I'll see if I notice anything, but unfortunately I am kind of out of ideas...did you try the recovery option in grub?
[03:18] <c_smith> cfhowlett, touche
[03:18] <RedSeraph> I did not.
[03:18] <RedSeraph> trism: how do I get to that from start up?
[03:19] <trism> RedSeraph: from grub select the Advanced Options item, which should take you to other kernels, one of them says (recovery mode)
[03:19] <crimsonmane> !kopete
[03:19] <RedSeraph> trism: How do I pull up the Grub?
[03:20] <crimsonmane> hold shift while booting to get to the grub menu
[03:20] <trism> RedSeraph: how did you add nomodeset without getting to grub?
[03:21] <RedSeraph> Using the liveusb. When the little man with the kyboard showed up, pressed E, selected english, then f6 on 'Install Linux'
[03:21] <trism> RedSeraph: but I thought you said you already installed?
[03:21] <crimsonmane> RedSeraph: if linux is already installed, reboot and hold SHIFT to get to grub menu
[03:22] <RedSeraph> Yes, the grub is now up. 'Ubuntu' 'Advanced Options' and two memory tests.
[03:22] <RedSeraph> Loading the recovery kernel.
[03:22] <trism> RedSeraph: I before trying the recovery option, I would try editing the item, and adding nomodeset
[03:22] <crimsonmane> recovery means boot to command line
[03:23] <RedSeraph> trism: I apologize. Let me get back the starting grub menu.
[03:23] <trism> RedSeraph: no problem, I did suggest to do that but I thought you had already tried nomodeset from grub
[03:24] <trism> RedSeraph: if recovery did work, at least you'll be able to get a command line if nomodeset doesn't work
[03:24] <RedSeraph> Okay, I have 'Setparams 'Ubuntu'' followed by 'recordfail' and a list of text but I see no 'nomodset'
[03:25] <trism> RedSeraph: do you see quiet and splash?
[03:25] <trism> RedSeraph: you need to add it to the end of the vmlinux line
[03:25] <NoobTux> OerHeks, can i pm u bro?
[03:26] <RedSeraph> There is a 'quiet splash' at the end of the 'vmlinuz-3.5.0-17-generic...' line. After it is '$vt_handoff initrd'
[03:27] <trism> RedSeraph: right after quiet splash I would add nomodeset
[03:27] <trism> RedSeraph: then I think ctrl+x to boot (it'll tell you at the bottom though)
[03:27] <RedSeraph> Added, Pressing Control+X. (Also says f10 is an option)
[03:28] <trism> RedSeraph: good luck!
[03:28] <NoobTux> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1299064/ <--- pls help i'm using ubuntu 10.04 32bit here thanx
[03:28] <RedSeraph> si magnifique
[03:28] <RedSeraph> trism: thank you so much!
[03:28] <trism> RedSeraph: you're welcome
[03:28] <RedSeraph> User 'ned' logging in.
[03:29] <py_can> hi I can't remove mysql-server with apt-get. It actually tries to install mysql-server when I do it and I get error messages: http://pastebin.com/LJMQvC4B
[03:29] <RedSeraph> And... gold! Ubuntu up and running. I'll get the drivers for the nvidia fix.
[03:29] <sony> ubuntu 12.04 and 12.10 after installing no sound
[03:30] <Guest9352> ubuntu 12.04 and 12.10 after installing no sound
[03:30] <RedSeraph> Errr... trism, I think I spoke too soon. Had a pop up 'System program problem detected'
[03:30] <SolarisBoy> py_can: it's not installed but it seems you tried to install it but it failed
[03:30] <DaemonicApathy> py_can: Have you tried just "sudo apt-get purge mysql-server"?
[03:30] <py_can> DaemonicApathy: will try
[03:30] <Jimster480-Lapto> i have 50000 ping
[03:30] <Jimster480-Lapto> NICE
[03:31] <SolarisBoy> apt-get install -f even
[03:31] <DaemonicApathy> Fair point, solarisBoy.
[03:31] <py_can> DaemonicApathy: http://pastebin.com/qGvzS3ER
[03:31] <py_can> SolarisBoy: ok sec
[03:31] <NoobTux> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1299064/ <--- pls help i'm using ubuntu 10.04 32bit here thanx
[03:32] <RedSeraph> 'Sorry, Ubuntu 12.10 has experienced an internal error' and shwos the executable path of /usr/bin/Xorg
[03:32] <py_can> SolarisBoy: loads of errors. something is really messed up.
[03:32] <SolarisBoy> RedSeraph: its possible the ppa is not available for lucid now
[03:32] <orlok> I am installing Ubuntu 10.04 LTS - In the installer, it shows there being 7 steps
[03:33] <orlok> However, it jumps from Step 5 (Account details) to Step 7 (Ready to Install)
[03:33] <DaemonicApathy> Why 10.04, orlok?
[03:33] <SolarisBoy> py_can: the error appears to be in the text you posted.
[03:33] <SolarisBoy> py_can: Fatal error: Can't change to run as user 'mysql' ;  Please check that the user  exists!
[03:33] <trism> RedSeraph: that could very well be from the crashes on earlier boots
[03:33] <orlok> DaemonicApathy: Because we have Ubuntu 10.04 listed in out approved products list as required by PCI-DSS requirements
[03:33] <crimsonmane> orlok: there is an "alternate installer" that works well if the normal installer has issues.
[03:33] <SolarisBoy> py_can: from where is the source for that package you are installing? is it ubuntu standard repos?
[03:33] <py_can> SolarisBoy: note: I'm trying to completly remove mysql
[03:33] <xangua> NoobTux: that repository no longer exist
[03:33] <py_can> SolarisBoy: yes
[03:33] <SolarisBoy> py_can: i know
[03:33] <trism> RedSeraph: might want to take a quick look at it and submit a bug report so that the devs can take a look
[03:34] <orlok> crimsonmane:  it installs fine, its just i'm documenting each step for our auditors, and wondering where the hell step 6 is :)
[03:34] <SolarisBoy> py_can: but it failed to install initially it is 'queued'
[03:34] <py_can> SolarisBoy: I see
[03:34] <SolarisBoy> py_can: if you observe the message it says "mysql not installed so not removing" then it goes on to process the stuff it couldn't before
[03:35] <orlok> i'm sure it wont matter, but i just started the install again as i thought i clicked through a step without thinking, and nope. No step 6.
[03:35] <SolarisBoy> py_can: can you do this dpkg -l '*mysql*'
[03:36] <py_can> SolarisBoy: http://pastebin.com/UikYQkMt
[03:39] <RedSeraph> trism: bug report sent. SolarisBoy ppa is up and running, it says. Installing the nvidia_current module with success so far. Thank you guys so much for this.
[03:39] <py_can> SolarisBoy: 2 hours ago mysql was acting weird, couldnt grant priv. to a newly created user. So after a while i decided to reinstall mysql. And then apt-get remove went bonkers, i tried manually removing some directories and the mysql user, now it is royally messed up.
[03:39] <ahmad> i am having a problem with ubuntu 12.10 server-amd64 edition
[03:40] <ahmad> during installation on a VM it says no disk drive was detected
[03:40] <DaemonicApathy> Did you mount a virtual drive, ahmad?
[03:40] <SolarisBoy> py_can: so uninstall mysql-server-5.5
[03:40] <ahmad> yes
[03:41] <SolarisBoy> or you can also do sudo apt-get purge mysql-* and just start over
[03:41] <DaemonicApathy> ahmad: So you should have a hard drive and the image both mounted as separate drives, yes?
[03:41] <RedSeraph> ....So aside from it thinking it is a laptop, we're alright. Seems to be running like sludge, but still. I can work with that.
[03:41] <ahmad> yes DaemonicApathy
[03:41] <py_can> SolarisBoy: looks clean now
[03:41] <SolarisBoy> py_can: right - there are post and pre scripts that execute when packages are installed - doing steps manually before asking the apt system or others will generally mess up stuff - not badly but yea
[03:41] <DaemonicApathy> ahmad: Which VM software are you using?
[03:41] <SolarisBoy> py_can: cool
[03:41] <ahmad> one is a DATA controller other IDE
[03:42] <ahmad> SATA*
[03:42] <py_can> SolarisBoy: thx!
[03:42] <ahmad> 4.2.2
[03:42] <ahmad> oh VirtualBox
[03:42] <SolarisBoy> it listed mysql-server-5.5 as iF so it seemed it was in a partial state
[03:42] <SolarisBoy> py_can: sure
[03:43] <SolarisBoy> sata and pata technically afaik
[03:43] <DaemonicApathy> ahmad: I'm going to see if I can recreate. Meanwhile, maybe someone here knows something off the top of their head.
[03:43] <DaemonicApathy> IDE = PATA
[03:43] <DaemonicApathy> Same difference.
[03:43] <ahmad> DaemonicApathy, I am going to PM you VBoxManage code
[03:44] <DaemonicApathy> k
[03:44] <SolarisBoy> ide = sata too
[03:44] <Ramtron> Hi, where is the ubuntu task manager? I can't find it anywhere.
[03:44] <SolarisBoy> one is serial one is parallel is the diff
[03:44] <ObsidianBlade> Hey I was in here earlier trying to get help with this issue, but it didn't come down to a solution. I have an MSI GT70 0NE 276US laptop. I want to install Ubuntu in RAID 0 on my machine as that's how it came configured (two 128GB mSATA drives). But I'm not quite sure how to install it correctly. This is what it looks like in the installer http://imageshack.us/f/823/photoalve.jpg/
[03:44] <jjkinas> I used to use MyUnity to change the size of the unity bar, but this does not work in 12.10... Is there another way to change the bar size ?
[03:45] <Ramtron> Anyone here know where the ubuntu task manager is?
[03:45] <SolarisBoy> Ramtron: top
[03:45] <Ramtron> top?
[03:45] <SolarisBoy> Ramtron: the command would likely be top that most fits what you requested
[03:45] <SolarisBoy> Ramtron: type
[03:46] <SolarisBoy> type 'top'
[03:47] <trism> jjkinas: System Settings/Appearance/Launcher Icon Size isn't working for you?
[03:47] <crimsonmane> ps -e | grep <whatyourelookingfor>
[03:47] <peace14> help me
[03:47] <crimsonmane> no
[03:47] <Ramtron> hmmm thanks, anyone know how to speed up games, such as minecraft in ubuntu?
[03:47] <cfhowlett> !details|peace14:
[03:47] <SolarisBoy> pgrep and save some typing
[03:47] <cfhowlett> !who
[03:47] <SolarisBoy> Ramtron: whats slowing it down is generally step one
[03:47] <RedSeraph> Have a goodnight, and thanks again, #Ubutnu
[03:48] <jjkinas> trism:  I didnt even see that !!!
[03:48] <Ramtron> @SolarisBoy I have no idea, It's just running very slowly. Nothing out of ordinary in my running processes
[03:48] <jjkinas> trism: thank you
[03:49] <SolarisBoy> Ramtron: how do you define ordinary? how are sorting top or whatever your looking at?
[03:49] <ObsidianBlade> Anyone there who can help me with my issue?
[03:49] <gabrieluk> how should i install libphp-phpmailer on ubuntu 10.04?
[03:49] <foobArrr> I have problems with distorted sound and echo with vlc. Often sound is only distorted for the first few seconds or a minute of a file, then sound is normal. When I skip to the next song/video, sound is distorted again. Also volume levels are strange: some videos are loud, some are quiet, in mplayer they have similar volume. I tried recording the distortions with Sound Recorder, but I can't get that to work.
[03:49] <Ramtron> I basically just have no clue why it's lagging
 yes help me please
[03:50] <SolarisBoy> Ramtron: you can try to use top/ps but its important to sort them properly if you want any detail - that would be a start
[03:50] <Guest31861> god
[03:51] <SolarisBoy> Ramtron: when you open top type '?' and look at the sorting options, mainly, memory (rss), cpu usage, etc also look at the threads and look at the multi cpup view
[03:51] <aeon-ltd> foobArrr: do you have the dynamic range compressor on? (regarding the vol problems)
[03:51] <foobArrr> aeon-ltd: what's that and where do I check?
[03:51] <SolarisBoy> Ramtron: if your using ps use the --sort option to see whats hogging, try pcpu, and rss sorts the same
[03:51] <Ramtron> could be cinnamon
[03:51] <Ramtron> is that something that would make it lag?
[03:52] <aeon-ltd> foobArrr: it's on audio effects
[03:52] <Ramtron> using 260 mb
[03:52] <SolarisBoy> Ramtron: 260mb of what? rss? it really depends on what its doing - what your system is doing, etc - so need more info
[03:52] <SolarisBoy> i've seen browsers use more than that and work fine
[03:53] <SolarisBoy> but more importantly is what is it doing? read/write? networking? etc you need to get a good view of that
[03:53] <foobArrr> aeon-ltd: dynamic range compressor is off
[03:53] <Ramtron> @SolarisBoy is it possible to give my GFX card virtual ram? 249mb of "RES" with a %CPU of 65, the browser is using the same with no CPU %
[03:53] <q0_0p> how do i remove email notifier in ubuntu 12.10?
[03:54] <q0_0p> it says thunderbird contacts and compose new message
[03:54] <aeon-ltd> foobArrr: ok. i'm sorry but i have no more ideas for now
[03:54] <SolarisBoy> that sounds like its hogging - you can do that - i would strace whatever process is doing that for a better understanding on what its working on
[03:55] <foobArrr> aeon-ltd: k. thanks anyway.
[03:55] <Ramtron> Any way to lower the priority of cinnamon?
[03:55] <ObsidianBlade>  I have an MSI GT70 0NE 276US laptop. I want to install Ubuntu in RAID 0 on my machine as that's how it came configured (two 128GB mSATA drives). But I'm not quite sure how to install it correctly. This is what it looks like in the installer http://imageshack.us/f/823/photoalve.jpg/
[03:55] <SolarisBoy> you can renice it Ramtron
[03:55] <Ramtron> permanently?
[03:55] <Ramtron> How?
[03:55] <SolarisBoy> you can edit the startup for it to prepend renice Ramtron
[03:56] <Ramtron> What is Renice?
[03:56] <SolarisBoy> Ramtron: assuming your sure this will help 'man renice' and give some info on what the current prio value is
[03:56] <Ramtron> PR? is 20
[03:58] <SolarisBoy> Ramtron: bring it lower
[03:58] <Ramtron> How's that?
[03:59] <SolarisBoy> renice <prio> <pid> so put the lower number and a space and the process id
[03:59] <Ramtron> What number do you suggest?
[03:59] <Jordan_U> SolarisBoy: Lowering a processes niceness increases its tendency to take CPU from other processea, is that what you want?
[04:00] <Ramtron> No
[04:00] <SolarisBoy> oh my bad increase it
[04:00] <SolarisBoy> =)
[04:00] <Ramtron> Increase to what?
[04:00] <SolarisBoy> something higher than 20 - what are the prios of the other processes on the system?
[04:00] <Jordan_U> SolarisBoy: 20 is as high as niceness goes.
[04:00] <Ramtron> so renice 30 1567 ? everything is 20 or 0
[04:00] <Ramtron> or RT
[04:01] <snark> ObsidianBlade, do you plan on keeping the existing partitions?
[04:01] <ObsidianBlade> Nah it's not necessary
[04:01] <ObsidianBlade> Especially if it simplifies the process, snark.
[04:01] <alone> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1299227/
[04:01] <SolarisBoy> hmm - then revert to checking what the program is doing when its taking up the cpu like that
[04:01] <alone> surprise ;D
[04:01] <snark> ObsidianBlade, it sure does!
[04:01] <SolarisBoy> Ramtron: whats the game?
[04:01] <ObsidianBlade> :D
[04:01] <Ramtron> Minecraft
[04:02] <Ramtron> Cinnamon is a theme for gnome
[04:02] <Ramtron> So I'm running it all the time
[04:02] <snark> ObsidianBlade, so you have done you final backup?
[04:02] <ObsidianBlade> Yeah everything is saved elsewhere
[04:02] <ObsidianBlade> The only thing left to do is the actual set up
[04:03] <SolarisBoy> Ramtron: which process is causing the load again?
[04:03] <Ramtron> Cinnamon
[04:03] <SolarisBoy> hmm
[04:03] <SolarisBoy> is that a process?
[04:04] <donnie> Is there any way that I can share a connection with a cell phone without any cables?
[04:04] <snark> ObsidianBlade, Im not sure if the install cd can create a raid partition
[04:04] <SolarisBoy> donnie: what type of phone?
[04:05] <ObsidianBlade> Snark....hmmm that would suck. How would someone with a RAID get it to work then?
[04:05] <SolarisBoy> you can tether wirelessly on some androids
[04:05] <donnie> T-Mobile Exhibit 4g.
[04:06] <snark> ObsidianBlade, was the previous system Windoz?
[04:06] <ObsidianBlade> Aye. I'm running 8 on it as we speak
[04:06] <donnie> When I tethered them together, it tried to use the phone as the access point. I want to use the laptop as the access point.
[04:07] <donnie> I can pick up the main connection but the phone cannot.
[04:08] <donnie> I am using Xubuntu 12.10
[04:08] <snark> ObsidianBlade, does the laptop have a raid card in it?
[04:09] <ObsidianBlade> Snark, this is a new laptop and my first experience with RAID. I'm not sure how to tell if it does or not.
[04:09] <donnie> Sorry, I am not a cell phone user. lol... I'm trying to help someone else.
[04:09] <snark> ObsidianBlade, np Ill just google it !
[04:10] <ethan_> laptop with RAID ?
[04:11] <ethan_> I've nerver heared about that
[04:13] <snark>  
[04:14] <snark> ObsidianBlade, ok so it dosent have a raid card
[04:14] <ObsidianBlade> Alright. I was trying to find that out myself and still wasn't sure.
[04:14] <ObsidianBlade> So what's that mean from here snark?
[04:15] <andrew_> !ubottu
[04:15] <donnie> Well, i'm signing off. Thanks for your help everyone!
[04:15] <rozmuq> https://twitter.com/rozmuq/status/260594566774812672
[04:15] <snark> ObsidianBlade, all it really means is that you need to setup the raid first   then it is a sinch to install ubuntu
[04:16] <ObsidianBlade> Snark, that's good to hear. If you saw that pic when I put up my first message in here, it looked a bit confusing. To me anyway
[04:17] <denebeim> I'm getting a getcwd failure on an automounted NFS partition when the partition being mounted is local to the host.
[04:17] <denebeim> if that makes sense
[04:18] <denebeim> I've been googling around, but so far no luck.
[04:18] <SolarisBoy> denebeim: your saying the nfs is shared to itself?
[04:19] <denebeim> Yeah, it's actually my home directory, it get shared nfs regardless of what machine I'm logged into
[04:19] <denebeim> I'm only seeing the behavior when I ssh into the machien the disk is local to.
[04:20] <denebeim> specifically the /home partition is automounted to /nethome
[04:20] <denebeim> after I log in most things work, although some scripts fail as does trn
[04:21] <andrew_> i need some assistance with my graphics firmware as ubuntu details app tells me its unknown
[04:21] <ObsidianBlade> So Snark, how do I proceed?
[04:22] <denebeim> oh also this just started a few days ago, I'm not sure when, but less than a week ago.  presumably it's caused by some package that was updated.
[04:22] <snark> ObsidianBlade, you could start here http://www.devil-linux.org/documentation/1.0.x/ch01s05.html
[04:23] <denebeim> the configuration files fstab, nfs, auto.home, have not been modified since Jun '11
[04:23] <lwizardl> is there a way to actually list all directories and the files in them? like dir > output.txt
[04:24] <wastrel> lwizardl: find
[04:24] <denebeim> lwisardl you probably want to investigate the 'find' command
[04:24] <snark> lwizardl, try   ls -l
[04:24] <SolarisBoy> ls -R
[04:25] <snark> lwizardl, or try   ls -l > mylist.txt
[04:25] <denebeim> SolarisBoy, snark, it depends on what he's looking for.  ls's output is crappy if you're writing a script.  Find is much better since it gives the full path on each file
[04:26] <SolarisBoy> denebeim: the output can be adjusted - find isn't really for that - but if you must you can add -1 and get ls to print in a column
[04:26] <KM0201> is there a way to run rsync in reverse?  forinstance, i have a rsync job that backs up "data" to "databackup"(which is on another drive)... lets say the drive with "data" fails, is there a way to make rsync "reverse"... where it would essentially restore "databackup" to "Data". (hope that made sense)
[04:27] <ObsidianBlade> So Snark, I think I'm in a bit over my head. am I to open a terminal before the set up and run that stuff or something? I don't quite understand this.
[04:27] <SolarisBoy> KM0201: are you sure switching the source and destination in rsync won't work? is it a 1-1 a directory to a directory restore? or is it an archive of a backup etc?
[04:27] <wastrel> KM0201: you can just reverse the arguments
[04:27] <KM0201> wastrel: thats what i want to do... how would i do that?
[04:27] <lwizardl> -R worked
[04:28] <lwizardl> thanks
[04:28] <denebeim> Any ideas about my nfs problem?
[04:28] <snark> denebeim, he did ask for a list!
[04:28] <wastrel> KM0201: rsync A B ->  rsync B A
[04:28] <SolarisBoy> -l is for long listing -R is for recursive =)
[04:28] <KM0201> SolarisBoy: rsync is working fine (again, my job is set data to databackup)..... but lets say the drive with "data" fails, and I need to restore form "databackup"... is ther ea way to do that w/o creating another job?
[04:28] <wastrel> mais non?
[04:28] <KM0201> hmm
[04:29] <denebeim> yeah, but he asked for all the subdirectories.  and yeah for human readability ls -lR rocks
[04:29] <SolarisBoy> KM0201: what wastrel said
[04:29] <KM0201> ya
[04:29] <SolarisBoy> right - and -R is for subdirs
[04:29] <KM0201> i was trying to do it from an OMV gui.. so i was hoping there was a switch
[04:29] <KM0201> no big deal.
[04:30] <denebeim> well I guess I'll try again some other day, thanks guys.  I know it's a weird bug.
[04:30] <snark> ObsidianBlade, yes it is complicated, I fully agree ,now If you didnt necessarily want RAID    the btrfs filesystem is another possible solution
[04:31] <q0_0p> is evolution-data-server segfault is this a known issue?
[04:31] <snark> ObsidianBlade, and it has a lot of the benifits of RAID
[04:31] <q0_0p> [   26.059332] evolution-calen[1777]: segfault at 7f7270005ae0 ip 00007f7270005ae0 sp 00007fff5c698978 error 15
[04:31] <ObsidianBlade> Snark: Well it's not that I want it to be RAID for the sake of being RAID but I want to have that combined sace
[04:31] <ObsidianBlade> space*
[04:31] <wachpwnski> how does one make a samba share not viewable by unauthorized users?
[04:31] <ObsidianBlade> If btrfs offers that, then hey, I'm open to it
[04:31] <SolarisBoy> you can make an lvm pool of different disks
[04:32] <johnjacobjingerh> whats the proper syntax to move all files in a folder to a new location without moving the parent directory
[04:32] <johnjacobjingerh> would it be mv /directory/name/here/* /new/directory/here/
[04:32] <SolarisBoy> johnjacobjingerh: that works
[04:32] <excervo> wachpwnski, check samba config set readable = no
[04:33] <johnjacobjingerh> SolarisBoy, do u know if there's a way to check on the progress of mv... like if it's a big file can it show percentage copied?
[04:33] <SolarisBoy> johnjacobjingerh: you can do ps or alternations on ps
[04:33] <snark> ObsidianBlade, ok then   but it is still advertised as experimental (you have been warned!)    I use it myself on my personel pcs not at work!
[04:34] <ObsidianBlade> snark: lol what's experimental? btrfs?
[04:34] <SolarisBoy> johnjacobjingerh: you can get a total of the files size and then do something like 'watch 'du -skh /path/to/location' and you can see it increase
[04:34] <wastrel> ^^^
[04:34] <johnjacobjingerh> ah
[04:34] <andrew_> any ideas of a portable onboard graphics detector app
[04:34] <johnjacobjingerh> thanks
[04:34] <snark> ObsidianBlade, so just install ubuntu and tell it to use btrfs , it will sort the rest out for you
[04:34] <SolarisBoy> andrew_: lspci =)
[04:35] <johnjacobjingerh> i'm trying to copy all the contents of one drive to another
[04:35] <L3top> andrew_: what do you want it to do exactly?
[04:35] <andrew_> download driver
[04:35] <SolarisBoy> johnjacobjingerh: that works if your talking about files and mounted drives - which i think you are
[04:35] <ObsidianBlade> I suppose I can give that a shot. Something tells me I'll be coming back here with an error of some sort or some issue
[04:36] <johnjacobjingerh> yep
[04:36] <wastrel> johnjacobjingerh: if you use mv you will move them from one to the other not copy
[04:36] <L3top> andrew_: I can give you a script that will do it. What version ubuntu?
[04:36] <andrew_> im trying to install a game and im having trouble
[04:36] <johnjacobjingerh> i'm copying now... forgot to check the size of the files
[04:36] <johnjacobjingerh> wastrel yes i know
[04:36] <johnjacobjingerh> i want to move them
[04:36] <andrew_> 12.04lts L3top
[04:36] <johnjacobjingerh> i'm formatting the othetr drive
[04:36] <L3top> andrew_: oh... well I can help you just install that machines driver
[04:36] <johnjacobjingerh> tho cp might have been safer in case something gets missed
[04:37] <johnjacobjingerh> oops
[04:37] <q0_0p> how do i remove the mail icon
[04:37] <q0_0p> in 12.10
[04:37] <q0_0p> anyone?
[04:37] <johnjacobjingerh> oh well.. live and you learn
[04:37] <snark> ObsidianBlade, btrfs has been around for a few years so its not totally new
[04:37] <L3top> andrew_: lspci -nn | grep VGA
[04:37] <johnjacobjingerh> oh i see wastrel i accidentally said 'copy'   i meant move
[04:37] <wastrel> cp should be slightly faster
[04:37] <ObsidianBlade> Snark: Alright, Well I'll go and give it a shot then. Hopefully it works out. If not, I'll be back here for more help. Thanks for the help you've provided. It's been....helpful. lol
[04:37] <wastrel> because you don't have to unlink on the othere side
[04:38] <snark> ObsidianBlade,   hehe   np
[04:40] <johnjacobjingerh> sigh.. i hope netflix comes out for linux soon
[04:41] <pupo> anybody did this
[04:41] <pupo> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[04:41] <pupo> the part of "Master Boot Record backup and re-replacement"
[04:41] <xMopxShell> Hi guys, I just installed & updated 12.10. After i installed nvidia-current and nvidia-settings, unity is gone and im stuck at 640x480. can anyone help?
[04:42] <snark> johnjacobjingerh, qoute "Movie streaming company Netflix have once again reiterated that have no plans to support Linux anytime soon"
[04:45] <wilee-nilee> pupo, You can do a backup but bothe the windows bootloader and the ubuntu bootloader can easily be inserted into the mbr
[04:45] <pupo> wilee-nilee: trying to understand this command
[04:45] <pupo> dd if=/dev/sda of=/mbr.bin bs=446 count=1
[04:46] <rinzler> looking for the gtkwhiteboard pkg and it doesn't show up under any of my current sources. what sources do I need to enable to get this to work?
[04:48] <wilee-nilee> pupo, There are two commands that is gthe save the other is the insert, honestly I have never used either, and I have W7 and 3 linux installs on a single HD, that is rather old school.
[04:49] <Jordan_U> pupo: For restoring an MS style mbr it's both easier and safer to use the install-mbr command, so I would ignore the suggestion of using dd.
[04:49] <wilee-nilee> Good to know the dd stuff I guess for some I never use them.
[04:50] <pupo> Jordan_U: I would be booting from a live cd
[04:50] <pupo> Jordan_U: this is after I install windows
[04:51] <Jordan_U> pupo: That doesn't change my statement at all.
[04:51] <pupo> Jordan_U: so I boot from live cd, then run              sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[04:52] <snark> pupo,   install windows first then boot into ubunto livecd and it will do the multiboot for you
[04:52] <pupo> I already have a working ubuntu I want to keep
[04:53] <snark> pupo, oh   thats very different! and harder
[04:53] <pupo> so I need to install windows and then install grub from live cd
[04:53] <Jordan_U> pupo: First, I thought that you were trying to (or preparing for in case you needed to) restore the Windows bootloader, now I understand that you want to restore grub. To restore grub from a LiveCD follow this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_ChRoot
[04:53] <wilee-nilee> +1 on the chroot
[04:55] <pupo> Jordan_U: the dd option seems simpler :-(
[04:56] <KM0201> seems simpler?
[04:56] <KM0201> what could be more simple than booting the live cd and running a utility to restore grub?
[04:56] <snark> pupo, Jordan_U idea is much safer for you
[04:57] <Jordan_U> pupo: It is simpler, and it would probably work, but the guide I linked to is safer (no chance of data loss in the case of making a mistake) and more reliable.
[04:57] <pupo> KM0201: the other option is
[04:57] <pupo> Backup the MBR e.g. dd if=/dev/sda of=/mbr.bin bs=446 count=1
[04:57] <pupo> Restore the MBR e.g. dd if=/media/sda/mbr.bin of=/dev/sda bs=446 count=1
[05:06] <mah454> Hello
[05:06] <XMLnewbi> ok, im on ubuntu server. I have a java app im trying to install. java -jar mtgoxtomysql.jar & returns      Unable to access jarfile mtgoxtomysql.jar
[05:07] <XMLnewbi> I have FTP accress and the Java is right on top
[05:07] <XMLnewbi> do i need to install Java? can I do that from the command line?
[05:07] <pupo> Jordan_U: what's the difference between point 5 and 6there
[05:08] <aeon-ltd> !java | XMLnewbi
[05:08] <guang> how to logout with command?
[05:09] <guang> how to logout with command?
[05:09] <Jordan_U> pupo: Point 5 is for mounting your root partition, point 6 is for mounting your /boot/ partition (if you have one). You probably don't have a separate /boot/ partition.
[05:09] <darkowlzz_> guang, you mean close the terminal ?
[05:09] <guang> i mean log out,not close the terminal
[05:10] <pupo> Jordan_U: I also would need to install the windows partition at some point
[05:10] <XMLnewbi> I on SSH into a VPS,              All i got is command line, Im really uncomfertable.           !java doesnt seem to install Java
[05:10] <snark> guang,    exit
[05:10] <darkowlzz_> guang, are you alson on SSH to a VPS?
[05:10] <Jordan_U> pupo: This would all be something that you would do after installing Windows.
[05:11] <guang> i work on ubuntu
[05:11] <pupo> Jordan_U: yes of course
[05:11] <pupo> if I don't install windows I don't need to reinstall grub :-D
[05:11] <XMLnewbi> is there a command line to tell is Java is installed?
[05:11] <ahmad> command -v java
[05:11] <pupo> XMLnewbi: java -version
[05:11] <ahmad> or which -v java
[05:12] <ahmad> or what pupo said
[05:12] <XMLnewbi> I am on ubuntu server. -v   returned command not found
[05:12] <pupo> pupo: java could be there anyway, this will tell you if it has it in the path and all the stuff
[05:12] <XMLnewbi> OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea6 1.11.4) (6b24-1.11.4-1ubuntu0.11.10.1) OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 20.0-b12, mixed mode)
[05:13] <ahmad> 'which java' works without the -v
[05:13] <wastrel> a wild java appears
[05:13] <pupo> XMLnewbi: openjdk, a bit different from sun jdk but works anyway
[05:13] <guang> when i want to log out,i can only use 'ps au',then kill the 'X' thread
[05:14] <guang> is there other command?
[05:14] <pupo> logout
[05:14] <wastrel> well you could do pkill gnome-session
[05:14] <pupo> guang: logout
[05:14] <snark> guang, what desktop you use?
[05:14] <guang> 10.04
[05:14] <XMLnewbi>  java -jar mtgoxtomysql.jar                returns    Unable to access jarfile mtgoxtomysql.jar                 Does that mean it cant find the file?       is there a way I can view the DIR? I dont know the filestructor. I only have FTP access and I put the Java right on top
[05:14] <guang> logout can not work
[05:15] <alagu> Hello, I'm trying to install using wubi. I have ubuntu-12.10-wubi-amd64.tar.xz downloaded locally.
[05:15] <alagu> But everytime I start wubi, it tries to download it from internet
[05:15] <kfed> I don't have an internet connection on my install, how do I install make
[05:15] <wastrel> if you only have ftp how are you running java
[05:15] <pupo> XMLnewbi: first you should make sure file there, then us java -jar
[05:15] <darkowlzz_> alagu, hi, tamil?
[05:15] <snark> guang, do you want to shutdown the pc?
[05:15] <XMLnewbi> I am on SSH command line
[05:15] <pupo> XMLnewbi: to find file just use find or locate
[05:15] <aeon-ltd> alagu: if you have the iso in the same dir it will detect it
[05:15] <alagu> darkowlzz_: yes :)
[05:15] <darkowlzz_> alagu murgan
[05:16] <alagu> aeon-ltd: I don't have iso, but I have the xz
[05:16] <guang> i use terminal
[05:16] <wastrel> guang could do sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[05:16] <foobArrr> I have problems with distorted sound and echo with vlc. Often sound is only distorted for the first few seconds or a minute of a file, then sound is normal. When I skip to the next song/video, sound is distorted again. Also volume levels are strange: some videos are loud, some are quiet, in mplayer they have similar volume. I tried recording the distortions with Sound Recorder, but I can't get that to work.
[05:17] <wastrel> heh i think guang tested my suggestion
[05:17] <alagu> ubuntu-12.10-wubi-amd64.tar.xz is the file I have
[05:17] <alagu> I assume wubi is also trying to download the same file
[05:17] <snark> wastrel, hows that then?
[05:18] <alagu> If I know which path wubi is trying to download, I could jut put that there.
[05:18] <snark> guess not!
[05:18] <guang> yeah,/etc/init.d/gdm restart
[05:18] <guang> it does work.
[05:18] <snark> but isnt he just back where he started?
[05:18] <kfed> How do I install make if I don't have an internet connection on my ubuntu installation
[05:19] <darkowlzz_> ANYONE, do iso files come as tar.xz?
[05:19] <alusion> how long is a secure MySQL password typically?
[05:19] <snark> dark3n|off, NO
[05:19] <alagu> darkowlzz_: no i guess
[05:19] <aeon-ltd> alagu: where did you get this xz?
[05:19] <Mechdave_> darkowlzz_, no
[05:19] <wilee-nilee> alagu, Here is the wubi wiki. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide
[05:19] <snark> darkowlzz_, NO!
[05:19] <KM0201> darkowlzz_: not usually
[05:19] <darkowlzz_> alagu, where did you download that ubuntu tar.xz file?
[05:19] <wastrel> guang: you're not properly logging out of the gnome session, you're just restarting the display manager but it does get you out of X
[05:20] <alagu> darkowlzz_: aeon-ltd http://releases.ubuntu.com/quantal/
[05:20] <Mechdave_> darkowlzz_, you need the wubi .iso file
[05:20] <alagu> ubuntu-12.10-wubi-amd64.tar.xz
[05:20] <darkowlzz_> Mechdave_, no, I am trying to help alagu
[05:20] <alagu> Thanks darkowlzz_  :)
[05:21] <darkowlzz_> alagu, are you alagu murgan?
[05:21] <alagu> darkowlzz_: no, I'm alagu muthuraman
[05:21] <darkowlzz_> oh! I know someone with the same name, OT , sorry
[05:22] <alagu> no problem darkowlzz_  :)
[05:23] <darkowlzz_> alagu, did you tried extracting that file?
[05:23] <darkowlzz_> usually wubi comes inside the iso file
[05:27] <bitpimp> ok... I installed java 6 and java 7 somewhere in my system, but can't find them... sudo update-alternatives --config java is telling me there is only one alternative in the link group (6)... how can I find 7?
[05:27] <wastrel> yay
[05:28] <wastrel> did you install java 7 from repos?
[05:28] <XMLnewbi> how do you view your current DIR in unbuntu?
[05:28] <wastrel> pwd
[05:28] <darkowlzz_> pwd
[05:28] <XMLnewbi> ls isnt returning anything
[05:28] <wastrel> if ls isn't returning anything that means the dir is empty or contains only hidden files
[05:29] <wastrel> ls -a to view hidden files
[05:29] <drupin> Duplicate sources.list entry http://dl.google.com/linux/talkplugin/deb/ stable/main i386 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/dl.google.com_linux_talkplugin_deb_dists_stable_main_binary-i386_Packages)
[05:29] <bitpimp> wastrel: nope
[05:30] <drupin> i get this on sudo apt-get update
[05:30] <wastrel> bitpimp: i figured out why it's not showing up in the alternatives system
[05:30] <bitpimp> wastrel: I think I just pulled the directory down on 7
[05:30] <bitpimp> wastrel: lol... ok
[05:30] <doomlord> i can see a share across the network on my desktop (Network servers -> foo) -> "foo on bar" shows up as a desktop icon;  but where can i acess this from a commandline. i tried looking in "/mnt/" ,also "~/Desktop/foo on bar".
[05:31] <bitpimp> wastrel: is there a way to manually add executables to the alternatives?
[05:31] <doomlord> q: what is the path to acess a share that shows up on the desktop
[05:31] <wastrel> doomlord: it's in /media
[05:31] <doomlord> thanks
[05:31] <wastrel> probs
[05:31] <wastrel> doomlord: also see "mount"  or "df"
[05:31] <knix> I just installed 12.10 on my laptop and I have no acceleration when I use startx but lightdm work sjust fine
[05:31] <wastrel> bitpimp: iono, probably. but why not use java7 from repo?
[05:32] <bitpimp> wastrel: well... I want both 6 and 7 available, and not sure what happens when you install two different java versions from repo
[05:32] <doomlord> oh i can see a usb stick there, but not the network share i'm connected too :(
[05:33] <wastrel> bitpimp: it works good and you can switch between them with the alternatives system
[05:33] <knix> It's also not obeying my keyboard options from /etc/default/keyboard in lightdm but if I startx it works fine
[05:33] <bitpimp> wastrel: badaboom... cool... thanks!!
[05:33] <snark> doomlord,  what is in the address bar in the file manager when share is opened?
[05:33] <doomlord> heh no "open terminal here"
[05:33] <doomlord> let me check:-
[05:33] <wastrel> network share if it's samba i dunno where to look
[05:34] <doomlord> "foo on bar"     foo is the name of the file, bar is the machine name
[05:34] <wastrel> is it a windows share?
[05:34] <wastrel> anything show up with "mount" or "df" ?
[05:34] <uwe> guten morgen
[05:34] <Bill_Builder> Hi, I'm new to Ubuntu, I'm tired of not seeing through the window...    anyway, I can't get Ubuntu to run... I believe the problem is I have a RAID 0 boot drive. Any suggestions on how to make this work?
[05:35] <uwe> wer spricht deutsch und kennt ubuntu 12.10 ??
[05:35] <wastrel> uwe: #ubuntu-de ?
[05:35] <cfhowlett> !de|uwe
[05:35] <XMLnewbi> how do I go up?    im in home/usr        cd home    says no such file or dir
[05:36] <darkowlzz> cd ..
[05:36] <snark> XMLnewbi, cd/home/
[05:36] <darkowlzz> XMLnewbi, ^
[05:36] <doomlord> its a windows share, i think , yes
[05:36] <Mechdave_> XMLnewbi, cd ..
[05:36] <snark> XMLnewbi, cd /home/
[05:36] <Mechdave_> or to go to /home it is cd
[05:36] <doomlord> ah just trying mount now
[05:36] <snark> XMLnewbi, cd ..    even
[05:38] <doomlord> "df" shows me a usb stick aand drives  //dev/sda5 /udev tmpfs  none none /dev/sdb1   ...
[05:38] <XMLnewbi> if im on a VPS set up to run a website. What folder most likly has my FTP files?  bin   dev  home        initrd.img.old  lib64       media  opt   root  sbin     srv  tmp  var      vmlinuz.old boot  etc  initrd.img  lib             lost+found  mnt    proc  run   selinux  sys  usr  vmlinuz
[05:38] <wastrel> XMLnewbi: that would be home
[05:38] <ahmad> can anyone advise, what is the best way to transfer a file from localhost ubuntu 12.10 Desktop to a virtual machine (virtualbox) ubuntu 12.10 server
[05:38] <snark> XMLnewbi,  maybe   /srv?
[05:38] <doomlord> ah i have ~/Desktop/.gvfs/foo on bar :) found it
[05:39] <doomlord> Desktop/.gvfs
[05:39] <XMLnewbi> home only has usr     and usr is empty
[05:39] <XMLnewbi> cd user
[05:39] <vinoth> can any one fix this error i got this in my ubuntu terminal when i configure vlc :::::::::: vlc is unable to open mrl check  the log for details
[05:39] <guang_> ahmd,you can use copy and past
[05:39] <wastrel> ahmad: i would scp but there's probably a better way, shared disk or something with vbox
[05:39] <doomlord> no sorry. .. ~/.gvfs
[05:39] <Bill_Builder> Thanks for the look, I'll take this up tomorrow... best to all.
[05:39] <wastrel> copy & paste nowai
[05:41] <doomlord> ok thats does what i need, great.... i'm having to create "guest" acess though - i'd like to know how to make my username work for logging in properly.  I'm trying to sync a laptop and a desktop machine
[05:41] <XMLnewbi> srv has a folder ftp         but it is empy, wtf
[05:42] <snark> XMLnewbi, it really depends what ftp package your using and how its configured
[05:42] <drupin> I get this on sudo apt-get update http://paste.ubuntu.com/1299351/
[05:42] <ahmad> wastrel, ty i will look in to shared disk.. i wasnt sure scp will work over virtual machine
[05:42] <XMLnewbi> user@108-171-201-222:/srv/ftp$ java mtgoxtomysql.jar Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: mtgoxtomysql/jar Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: mtgoxtomysql.jar         at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:217)         at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)         at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(URLClassLoader.java:205)         at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadCl
[05:43] <drupin> XMLnewbi: use http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[05:43] <XMLnewbi> It actually worked snark, it found  my java in there
[05:43] <XMLnewbi> for some reason ls just wasnt listing the files
[05:43] <XMLnewbi> but now there is a problem with my lava
[05:44] <wastrel> ahmad: i don't know anything about virtualbox honestly, i was just speculating :]
[05:44]  * [_-S1L3NC3-_] Hmmm
[05:44] <wastrel> XMLnewbi: try dir in ftp instead of ls maybe
[05:44] <Jordan_U> drupin: Then you probably have two entries containing http://dl.google.com/linux/talkplugin/deb/ , to find out where they are you can run "grep -R http://dl.google.com/linux/talkplugin/deb/ /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/"
[05:46] <drupin> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1299355/ this i got from pastebinit
[05:46] <drupin> which one to remove now
[05:47] <vinoth_> FFFFFFFFFFFFF
[05:48] <drupin> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1299355/ which one to remove
[05:48] <yugandhar> Hi Guys, We need the monitoring tool for apache web request and performance to install on ubuntu linux
[05:48] <blacksunseven> my samba has completely stopped working. i get a cryptic error similar to this http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=10057491&postcount=1
[05:49] <yugandhar> could anyone help me please?
[05:49] <blacksunseven> i've had zero luck fixing it, i'm assuming it's some screwed permissions somewhere
[05:49] <wastrel> samba :[
[05:50] <wastrel> blacksunseven: does /etc/samba/smb.conf exist, is it readable, does /etc/samba/ have reasonable looking perms as well?
[05:50] <snark> blacksunseven, do you not have a backup config file?
[05:50] <blacksunseven> wastrel, it didnt, i copied the sample from my /usr, relogged, and now its gone again apparently
[05:51] <doomlord> its not letting me do a "git fetch" from the location ,,  i did git add remote blah ~/.gvfs/foo\ on\ bar  ... the path shows up fine but it keeps telling me "doesn't appear to be a git repository" ... is git not going through the appropriate network 'abstraction ' or seomthing
[05:51] <doomlord> i *can* just copy raw files however
[05:51] <blacksunseven> and no, /etc/samba has no permissions
[05:51] <blacksunseven> "d---------" for /etc/samba
[05:51] <wastrel> eek
[05:52] <blacksunseven> yeah, i know, i have no idea how this happened
[05:52] <wastrel> is your disk failing or filesystem corrupted
[05:52] <snark> blacksunseven, it need a new config file
[05:52] <wastrel> what do other files & dirs in /etc look like
[05:52] <blacksunseven> rest of /etc looks good
[05:52] <snark> blacksunseven, it needs* a new config file
[05:52] <blacksunseven> snark, k, from where?
[05:52] <wastrel> so chmod 755 /etc/samba
[05:53] <snark> blacksunseven, from a backup?
[05:53] <blacksunseven> yeah.. backup..
[05:53] <kfed> I want to install gcc, but I don't have an Internet connection
[05:53] <blacksunseven> is it ironic i encountered this problem when trying to set up a backup for another pc?
[05:53] <kfed> I have the deb file and deb files for all dependencies
[05:53] <blacksunseven> i hadnt modified the default smb.conf to my knowledge
[05:54] <yugandhar> Hi guys, can anyone help me on my question?
[05:54] <kfed> How do I do this?
[05:55] <kfed> If it were just one I would use dpkg, but I don't think that will resolve the dependencies properl
[05:55] <wastrel> kfed: http://askubuntu.com/questions/21004/is-there-apt-cacher-for-windows  perhaps
[05:55] <wastrel> kfed: /win 19
[05:55] <wastrel> er, ignore that
[05:56] <blacksunseven> the permissions + a fresh smb.conf from /usr fixed it, thanks guys
[05:57] <tiger__> how to enable squid ssl verify peer certificate with client, everybody
[05:57] <qkit> afternoon all
[05:57] <qkit> guys my apt-get update are running very slow
[05:57] <qkit> what are the command to fetch only certain header from the sourcelist
[05:58] <qkit> rather then update the whole list
[05:58] <qkit> ?
[05:58] <kfed> Wastrel: I don't have apt-offline, though
[05:58] <dislo> has anyone ever transcoded an rtsp stream on the fly to be sent out to iphones and androids?
[05:59] <snark> dislo, are you using  the stream.tv service?
[05:59] <kfed> Is there any way to have muon use a local folder as a software source?
[05:59] <snark> dislo, are you using  the u*stream.tv service?
[06:00] <XMLnewbi> my find doesnt seem to work very well, is there a command like find all?       I dont a find for a folder even folder home and it cant find it
[06:00] <dislo> snark: no it is coming off of an ip camera and I need to do it locally because I wont have enough bandwidth to send it off and back
[06:02] <dislo> snark: any ideas on how to do this?
[06:02] <XiaolinDraconis> Jordan_U, so, windows is broken, and i dont have my disk with me to fix it
[06:03] <doomlord> (silly me, i can *view* the files but not access them, git should work once i fix that)
[06:03] <snark> dislo, I was going to suggest you g over to their site    lots of info there    all Ive ever done is grab a rstp stream and save it locally using Dumprtsp
[06:04] <dislo> snark: I will take a look at it.
[06:07] <XMLnewbi> with FTP via command lind can I send files from my hard drive?  its promting ftp>          in putty via SSH
[06:08] <snark> XMLnewbi, look at the help!
[06:08] <XMLnewbi>  !               dir             mdelete         qc              site $               disconnect      mdir            sendport        size account         exit            mget            put             status append          form            mkdir           pwd             struct ascii           get             mls             quit            system bell            glob            mode            quote           sunique binary      
[06:08] <XMLnewbi> no send
[06:09] <XMLnewbi> I mean connect
[06:09] <KM0201> !paste
[06:09] <yugandhar> I have to monitor apache web server requests and performance through browser on ubuntu linux... Please help me technicians
[06:09] <XMLnewbi> when i try send C;/folder           it says not connected
[06:10] <snark> XMLnewbi,   its the  "put"  command   not send     use google for examples
[06:13] <qkit> guys...i try to add this in my ubuntu sourcelist
[06:15] <qkit> http://downloads.linux.hp.com/SDR/downloads/ManagementComponentPack/Ubuntu/pool/non-free/
[06:15] <qkit> i keep getting E: Malformed line 2 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist) error
[06:18] <snark> qkit,   have you used the script they mention?
[06:18] <wilee-nilee> qkit, THat is a web page address they do not go in that list.
[06:19] <wilee-nilee> qkit, Can you share why you are?
[06:19] <rinzler> I've got volume buttons on my keyboard, and the system seems to recognize them and do...something, but it's not accually changing volume or muting. how should I go about fixing that?
[06:21] <Gyro54> Hi!
[06:22] <Lartza> lartza : lartza sudo > lartza is not in the sudoers file??
[06:22] <darkowlzz> is there any chat channel for ubuntu users, where Off-Topic discussions can be done?
[06:22] <Gyro54> How can I shut down Libraoffice which has locked up during a cut and paste from one spreadsheet to another?
[06:22] <Lartza> #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:22] <wilee-nilee> Lartza, You in the admin account?
[06:22] <darkowlzz> oh! Lartza thanks :)
[06:23] <Lartza> wilee-nilee, ?
[06:23] <qkit> wilee-nilee: what you mean web page address list?  i trying to install  cpqacuxe hp-health hp-smh-templates hp-snmp-agents hpacucli hponcfg hpsmh
[06:23] <snark> qkit,   have you used the script they mention?
[06:23] <wilee-nilee> Lartza, The admin account is the one made on install, and any others made to be admin accounts.
[06:23] <Lartza> wilee-nilee, Ahh had to do a reboot
[06:23] <Lartza> wilee-nilee, It's a server
[06:24] <Lartza> wilee-nilee, There was only root, then I created my own account, and had to chmod sudo to work, needed a reboot after that it seems
[06:24] <rinzler> how do I change which sound card that the system controls
[06:24] <wilee-nilee> qkit, You give a specific addition to your sources.list, that is the web page look closer at the instructions.
[06:25] <wilee-nilee> Lartza, cool
[06:25] <snark> rinzler, alsamixer
[06:25] <qkit> ssnark: sorry, what you mean script?
[06:26] <wilee-nilee> Gyro54, Try killall libreoffice in the terminal.
[06:26] <snark> qkil   see the "getting started" link at the top of the page
[06:26] <qkit> ok thanks :)
[06:27] <rinzler> snark: doesn't seem to be working..
[06:27] <qkit> thanks
[06:28] <snark> rinzler, alsamixer or the card?
[06:28] <Lartza> Why isn't it...
[06:29] <Lartza> sudo ln -s filename1 /etc/init.d/filename2 then sudo update-rc.d filename2 defaults
[06:29] <andrew_> !ubottu
[06:29] <Lartza> /etc/init.d/filename2: file does not exist
[06:29] <Lartza> But if I ls /etc/init.d it's there, albeit red...
[06:29] <Lartza> oh right nevermind, full path ;)
[06:30] <Gyro54> wilee-nilee: trying but no process found
[06:30] <wilee-nilee> Lartza, If you get no answers here you might check with #ubuntu-server if you need help otherwise.
[06:31] <rinzler> how do I find the hardware address of sound devices?
[06:32] <snark> rinzler, does alsamixer even startup?
[06:32] <rinzler> snark: yes
[06:33] <snark> rinzler, press F6
[06:33] <rinzler> snark: ok,
[06:34] <wilee-nilee> Gyro54, killall soffice.bin
[06:34] <snark> rinzler, is more than one card listed?
[06:34] <wilee-nilee> Gyro54, That worked to kill mine had to google it. ;)
[06:36] <rinzler> snark: yes. I am using a non stock card.
[06:36] <passwoedhelp> help i dnt know my password
[06:36] <outofmana> hello?
[06:36] <rinzler> snark: I ultimately want to use my keyboard volume buttons to control the correct output
[06:36] <awestroke> passwoedhelp: hunter2?
[06:37] <outofmana> im really hoping someone here can help me
[06:37] <rinzler> outofmana: just ask, and if someone can answer, they will
[06:38] <outofmana> problem number 1) no sound in skyrim at all xubuntu 12.04
[06:38] <snark> rinzler, you might need to look at type of keyboard set in ubuntu   as in what TYPE of keyboard does ubuntu think you have
[06:39] <snark> rinzler, thats where the button mapping is actually done
[06:39] <outofmana> problem number 2) huge lag spikes in heroes of newerth, im on a desktop but would turning off power to the wifi card help?
[06:39] <rinzler> snark: as in layout?
[06:39] <snark> rinzler, as in manufacture of keyboard
[06:40] <snark> rinzler, as in for example   is it a microsoft multimedia keyboard
[06:40] <outofmana> Question 3) Could i get my linux drivers that work on 64bit, to work on win 7 64bit? (FOR MY WIFI CARD) ?
[06:40] <rinzler> snark: well, it maps all the special buttons correctly. It's a bluetooth version of the microsoft optical desktop, so yes, somewhat...
[06:40] <outofmana> i have done tons and tons of research and im hoping someone here came across more help then i have
[06:42] <outofmana> hello?
[06:42] <outofmana> am i dropping/
[06:42] <awestroke> outofmana: network lag spikes or graphical lag spikes
[06:42] <outofmana> it must be network because it shows the dc icon
[06:42] <rinzler> !wifi | outofmana
[06:43] <rinzler> there's something about wifi...
[06:43] <mobhero> hi, i need to monitor the apache2 servers requests and responses from gui (browsers).
[06:43] <kumar> hi guy how to install lamp in ubuntu
[06:43] <awestroke> kumar: that is easily googleable
[06:43] <Gyro54> wilee-nilee: Thanks
[06:44] <outofmana> i have not other options, i pay the neighbors to use wifi ethernet is not an option
[06:44] <outofmana> its certainly on the operating side problem wise.
[06:44] <outofmana> forget all my questions guys
[06:45] <wilee-nilee> !lamp
[06:45] <kumar> googled but its given problem to fetch pckge
[06:45] <wilee-nilee> Gyro54,  no problem. ;)
[06:45] <outofmana> i just want to know if its possible i could get my xubuntu 12.04 64 bit wifi card drivers to work on windows 7 64bit
[06:45] <outofmana> theoretically yes?
[06:46] <snark> outofmana, no ubuntu drivers will never work on windoz
[06:46] <outofmana> my wifi driver is in the b43legacy package which i have tried, but no luck on win 7 64bit assuming because i dont have the firmware installed? how would i go about that
[06:46] <shockingbehavur> !usb
[06:47] <rinzler> snark: the desired sound device is controlled by pulseaudio if that makes a difference...
[06:47] <kumar> wat is taskel
[06:47] <snark> outofmana, no ubuntu drivers will work in windoz    end off
[06:47] <outofmana> oh im screwed and windows xp i hate so much because it sucks for new games
[06:48] <shockingbehavur> taslsel you mean
[06:48] <shockingbehavur> tasksel
[06:48] <outofmana> i promised myself any problems i faced in linux i would take care
[06:48] <outofmana> not to go back
[06:48] <kumar> ya tASKEL
[06:49] <outofmana> after hours and hours of fixing all my hardware problems literally. skyrim has no sound at all. i havnt been able to find a fix i lag on hon and im tearing my hair out
[06:49] <snark> rinzler,   whats the brand name of the keyboard?    is it on the ubuntu compatability list?
[06:50] <d1rkp1tt> Hi Guys, I have just run up the 12_10 server install and wondering if someone could guide me through installing unity desktop
[06:50] <d1rkp1tt> or point me in the right direction
[06:51] <rinzler> snark: Microsoft. and it apparently does work with ubuntu. I can get the keyboard to control audio levels. my problem is getting it to control the right card.
[06:51] <outofmana> i was hoping for more intelligent help from this channel. all the questions all these guys are asking you can simply google IM SO MAD
[06:51] <shockingbehavur> kumar its to do with aptitude i think
[06:51] <d1rkp1tt> outofmana, who are you referring to?
[06:52] <outofmana> no one here installed skyrim and had a no sound problem?
[06:52] <rinzler> outofmana: wait... are you asking about how to install and play skyrim from inside winblows?
[06:52] <snark> rinzler, how about removing the other card and seeing if it works on its own?
[06:52] <aeon-ltd> outofmana: no one is foolish enough to run skyrim in linux and expect no problems
[06:53] <outofmana> i never said i expected no problems
[06:53] <rinzler> snark: that card is onboard audio. a part of the MB
[06:53] <d1rkp1tt> outofmana, Also, not an ubuntu question....
[06:53] <rinzler> snark: I could deinstall the software support possibly...
[06:53] <d1rkp1tt> Try the #skyrimonlinux channel
[06:53] <snark> rinzler, and the other card ?
[06:54] <snark> rinzler, onboard can be disabled from BIOS
[06:54] <rinzler> snark: a soundblaster Live
[06:55] <rinzler> snark: didn't think about that...
[06:55] <rinzler> snark: let me reboot and set that...
[06:55] <rinzler> brb
[06:55] <outofmana> yaya after hours of googling and no fix im sure none of u can help me, im just venting i guess didnt mean offense to anyone here
[06:56] <makuseru> Does anyone know of any way to get Amarok 1.4 working in 12.10? I've tried all the older guides, but they don't seem to work anymore. Packages seem to just be causing trouble with eachother.
[06:58] <excalibr> isn't there a latest ver..i think it's 2.x something
[07:01] <d1rkp1tt> So does anyone know how to install unity desktop on server? I have found this on google, but what troubles me is many of the examples are  different.
[07:02] <d1rkp1tt> is it just, apt-get install unity-desktop               ..
[07:02] <d1rkp1tt> or 2d ..
[07:02] <d1rkp1tt> There is a 3d and 2d version? or is it just 3d now
[07:03] <rinzler> d1rkp1tt: the 2d version is usually just a fallback for those who don't have adequate 3d support on their video cards.
[07:03] <snark> dlrkwhat kind of server is it?
[07:03] <ahmad> can someone help please, virtual box is not allowing shared folders until the user is added to vboxusers
[07:04] <ahmad> sudo usermod -G vboxusers -a $USER command is not working
[07:04] <snark> dlrkpltt    what kind of server is it?
[07:04] <d1rkp1tt> Ubuntu 12_10
[07:04] <excalibr> ahmad: sudo adduser $USER vboxusers
[07:04] <snark> dlrkpltt    what kind of server is it?    what does it do
[07:05] <d1rkp1tt> oh, test dev
[07:05] <d1rkp1tt> So i run eclipse etc
[07:05] <d1rkp1tt> dev environment
[07:05] <snark> dlrkpltt    why not try a lightweight desktop
[07:06] <d1rkp1tt> I kinda got used to unity in 12_10, now I quite like it
[07:06] <d1rkp1tt> hated it at first
[07:06] <d1rkp1tt> Been using default ubuntu desktops since 8_4
[07:06] <d1rkp1tt> But, I always download server edition and install it later...
[07:06] <d1rkp1tt> no reason why, its a bit dumb really
[07:07] <rinzler> snark: disabling onboard sound in BIOS worked perfectly Thanks!
[07:08] <snark> rinzler, np
[07:09] <excalibr> does anyone know any way to boot desktop iso into console mode ala server/alt iso?
[07:11] <aeon-ltd> excalibr: isn't there a cli option at boot?
[07:12] <darin_> well its not unity-desktop, that package doesnt exist
[07:13] <aeon-ltd> excalibr: if not why not just go to the vts after boot?
[07:13] <digitalunity> mornin all, is anyone using AwesomeWM? I seem to have a memory leak and an issue with the audio mute
[07:16] <excalibr> aeon-ltd: i want to avoid loading gui stuff since im loading the iso on low spec machine..need to rescue some data on the disk
[07:18] <e11bits> Still have problems after upgrade to 12.10 with nvidia graphics drivers and GeForce GTX 560 Ti
[07:19] <ahmad> sudo apt-get -y mesa-utils
[07:20] <ahmad> ellbits use that command ?
[07:20] <e11bits> ahmad: And then?
[07:21] <ButtDog> I've been doing a lot of research and I'm trying to figure out, if I can turn a bunch of old computers into a single cloud. Anyone have any ideas? Ubuntu server 12lts appears to have some options.
[07:21] <crizis> depends what you mean by "cloud"
[07:21] <d1rkp1tt> ButtDog, openstack
[07:21] <crizis> buzzwords, buzzwords
[07:22] <digitalunity> e11bits, whats the issue? I run two 560Ti's within 12.04 and AwesomeWM
[07:22] <ButtDog> crizis: I know exactly what you mean, sorry I'm a bit tired. I was thinking of somehow daisy chaining them together and running a single vm on all of them at once and balancing the cpu load(if possible)
[07:23] <digitalunity> sorry just realised you have upgraded to 12.10
[07:23] <ButtDog> d1rkp1tt: I've been researching openstack and eucalyptus have you tried either?
[07:24] <e11bits> ahmed: should glxinfo tell me something?
[07:24] <d1rkp1tt> Openstack is getting huge, apparently Ubuntu supports it now.. havent tried it
[07:24] <panzersajt> hy! Can somebody help me with 'dd-ing' an image.
[07:24] <d1rkp1tt> ButtDog, Cloud aside, you can cluster.. but I think the cloud/openstack concept is about fast creation of machines?
[07:24] <panzersajt> I run the command but nothing happens
[07:24] <fairuz> panzersajt: fire up your question :) What the command you used?
[07:24] <d1rkp1tt> So users can spawn instances really fast in your "cloud"
[07:25] <ButtDog> d1krkp1tt, that's what i've gotten so far, I'm using the wrong term. I should be cluster, do you have any ideas on this? Thanks
[07:25] <panzersajt> fairuz, sudo dd if=ubuntu12.10_2012_09_30.img of=/dev/sde
[07:25] <d1rkp1tt> crizis, I agree with the "buzzword" thing btw, but meh, roll with it
[07:25] <crizis> ButtDog, um, no, you can't really create "one vm" out of them. you can do, lets say networked filesystem which shows up as one mount and uses all machines as hd, you can roundrobin apache to respond at all machines, you can do clustered mysql server...
[07:25] <d1rkp1tt> You CAN cluster Linux system as well
[07:26] <crizis> you can do buildbot with gcc that uses all machines for compiling..
[07:26] <crizis> depends what you're wanting to achieve
[07:26] <ButtDog> I have a bunch of old computer laying around
[07:26] <ButtDog> My new office has free power included, I was hoping to run some stuff on them
[07:26] <d1rkp1tt> I have installed linux as cluster where a control monitors and assigns tasks to ALL nodes as one machine
[07:26] <crizis> most likely you're just going to waste electricity, tbh :P but good for learning
[07:26] <ButtDog> I just don't want to SSH into each one and manage them independently
[07:26] <kushal_kumaran> panzersajt: if the dd command did not produce any output, that means it succeeded
[07:26] <d1rkp1tt> ButtDog, Thats a great idea
[07:27] <e11bits> digitalunity: I had absolutely no problem on 12.04 . These came with 12.10
[07:27] <fairuz> panzersajt: Iirc, you need to dd to a partition such as /dev/sde1
[07:27] <ButtDog> d1rkp1tt, Thank you!
[07:27] <ButtDog> crizis: I agree 100%, I'm really curious to see how clustering works.
[07:27] <d1rkp1tt> Lemhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/EasyUbuntuClustering/UbuntuKerrighedClusterGuide
[07:27] <crizis> ButtDog, for starters you might wanna start with https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/drbd.html for distributed filesystem
[07:28] <panzersajt> fairuz, kushal_kumaran It is a complete image with partition table and files. It runs but showa that 0 written bytes.
[07:28] <svm_invictvs> How does one install jetty8 on Unbuntu server?
[07:28] <svm_invictvs> I'm only able ot install jetty 6
[07:28] <crizis> ButtDog, https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/ubuntucloud.html also for openstack stuff
[07:28] <e11bits> digitalunity: Now there is no transparency with dash in unity, a crippled animation on window minimize and some strange artefacts while entering passwords
[07:28] <fairuz> panzersajt: But maybe I'm wrong. Already forgot how I did this in the past.
[07:28] <crizis> ButtDog, in general, just look at server documentation - it's pretty straightforward
[07:28] <majnoon> doing a wubi install on sister's desktop
[07:29] <d1rkp1tt> http://www.squidoo.com/linux-clustering
[07:29] <majnoon> unity not so great on desktop but on this netbook it PERFECT
[07:29] <ButtDog> whoah, a lot to sink in
[07:30] <majnoon> !ot
[07:30] <crizis> majnoon, what makes unity any different on a laptop than on a desktop?
[07:30] <kushal_kumaran> panzersajt: any errors in dmesg or /var/log/syslog?  I assume /dev/sde is a usb thumb drive.  Do you have a different one you could try it on?
[07:30] <majnoon> crizis, it netbook saller screen
[07:30] <d1rkp1tt> ButtDog, http://www.stevekelly.eu/cluster.shtml
[07:31] <majnoon> *smaller
[07:31] <crizis> majnoon, i think unity is _worse_ on netbooks as it wastes so much screen estate, but great on desktops ;)
[07:31] <ButtDog> d1rkp1tt, thanks for that last one
[07:31] <d1rkp1tt> http://byobu.info/wiki/Building_a_simple_Beowulf_Like_Cluster_with_Ubuntu
[07:31] <majnoon> plus can pin programs i use more often in netbook
[07:31] <kushal_kumaran> panzersajt: failing that, run sudo strace -o dd.log dd if=.... to generate a log of every system call that the dd command makes.  That will be a start.
[07:31] <d1rkp1tt> That one looks promising
[07:32] <ButtDog> d1rkp1tt, have you heard of anyone doing this before?
[07:32] <majnoon> crizis,most of time on desktop i basically have *buntu
[07:32] <d1rkp1tt> ButtDog, We did this at my old work with a bunch of old servers... it worked fantastic... but they were really old
[07:32] <doomlord> is it possible to create a startup disk on one partition of a usb stick. desired state: usb stick with a bootable linux install, and a sepearte parttion for data. I'd already used gparted to make 2 such partitions..but "startup disk creator " is asking me to format it again
[07:33] <d1rkp1tt> ButtDog, Also, lots of people do it... some recent puclished ones are.. .large PS3 cluster, and RasberryPi cluster
[07:33] <ButtDog> d1rkp1tt, wow, I'd love to hear more about. How old? what where the specs?
[07:33] <majnoon> ALMOST equiv of doing apt-get install *
[07:33] <ButtDog> d1rkp1tt, I've heard of ps2/ps3 clusers also
[07:33] <d1rkp1tt> They were ancient.. this was 6 years ago
[07:33] <gabkdlly> doomlord, I believe you can just make the whole stick one partition, and then just keep your own data in a seperate folder
[07:34] <ButtDog> d1rkp1tt, do you mind if I PM you?
[07:34] <d1rkp1tt> ButtDog, http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/12/09/12/145256/university-team-builds-lego-and-raspberry-pi-cluster
[07:34] <majnoon> on desktop i usually use kde or blackbox
[07:34] <d1rkp1tt> ButtDog, Check that out
[07:34] <Jimster480-Lapto> hi noobs
[07:35] <doomlord> ideally i wanted to be able to leave the 'data' partition alone, and overwrite the 'boot' part. (I can see of course that if i wanted to update the installer i could just copy the data off and put it back)
[07:35] <gabkdlly> doomlord, it should not disturb any install process as long as you do not muck around in any of the installers files or folders
[07:35] <panzersajt> kushal_kumaran, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1299481/ It a freshly formatted SD card.
[07:36] <nydel> i wanna propose inclusion of cinnamon window manager with ubuntu next release -- where can i do that?
[07:36] <the_dark_knight> Hi, How do I write a cronjob which will allways run. Even if it gets failed it will restart. suppose there is a service like a gearman worker, it should always be running. if it gets aborted it should restart. How do I write such cron?
[07:36] <crizis> nydel, get it packaged to debian
[07:36] <nydel> i mean it's /so/ superior to unity & or gnome... i just can't even imagine using ubuntu without cinnamon anymore
[07:36] <doomlord> perhaps i can install onto another usb stick , and copy the bootable files onto the partitioned stick. (i've several smaller, and one very large stick.)
[07:36] <crizis> (and cinnamon sucks)
[07:37] <nydel> crizis: hey hey now :) why do you say that?
[07:37] <kushal_kumaran> panzersajt: did you accidentally do a dd with your .img file as of?  check the file size with a ls -l
[07:37] <crizis> no hud, crappy oldschool taskbar, i don't see what's superior in that
[07:37] <Jordan_U> nydel: Either in a bug report / feature request or at http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/ although for either please check first to confirm that such a request hasn't already been filed.
[07:38] <nydel> Jordan_U: thank you, that's very helpful.
[07:38] <nydel> crizis: i wasn't quite sure what you mean by "get it packaged to debian"
[07:38] <Jordan_U> nydel: You're welcome.
[07:38] <kushal_kumaran> panzersajt: ref. line 71 in the strace output.  dd tried to read from the file but got 0 bytes.  your .img file might have got truncated at some point.
[07:39] <crizis> nydel, ubuntu gets synced from debian on each release
[07:39] <the_dark_knight> hey guys please help.
[07:39] <panzersajt> kushal_kumaran, yes sorry for bothering you
[07:39] <panzersajt> kushal_kumaran, :(
[07:39] <nydel> crizis: so if cinnamon were included in debian most recent, it would be available in the ubuntu ppa?
[07:39] <crizis> yes
[07:39] <nydel> the_dark_knight: please ask for help, i'm happy to help
[07:39] <nydel> the_dark_knight: i mean, could you ask a specific question?
[07:40] <the_dark_knight> Hi, How do I write a cronjob which will allways run. Even if it gets failed it will restart. suppose there is a service like a gearman worker, it should always be running. if it gets aborted it should restart. How do I write such cron?
[07:40] <nydel> crizis: what is your window manager of choice?
[07:40] <kushal_kumaran> panzersajt: it's no trouble.  this happens to everyone at some point or other.
[07:40] <panzersajt> kushal_kumaran, can you help me with ubuntu 12.10 notification area? I would like to add some applications to it (skye, xchat)
[07:40] <nydel> the_dark_knight: could you tell me exactly what you're trying to do like clockwork? & when/why it fails etc?
[07:40] <crizis> unity
[07:41] <gabkdlly> doomlord, I believe that when you make a bootable stick, it sets some special bytes somewhere, so just moving all the files from a bootable stick won't work. But I could be wrong.
[07:41] <nydel> the_dark_knight: immediately i think that we should try writing the command into a script that handles possibilities of failure by exporting the command output to a log then checking it.
[07:41] <nydel> the_dark_knight: do you follow that? tell me more about the cronjob.
[07:42] <Jordan_U> panzersajt: Please pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l", also be very careful with dd. One small mistake and you could lose all the data on your hard drive.
[07:42] <NGRhodes> gabkdlly, doomlord, also writes a boot record
[07:42] <nydel> crizis: you don't have a lot of problems with compiz?
[07:42] <crizis> none
[07:42] <panzersajt> Jordan_U, thnaks but already solved :)
[07:42] <the_dark_knight> nydel: do you know gearman?
[07:44] <jonk> hello
[07:44] <nydel> the_dark_knight: no, let me look it up
[07:45] <the_dark_knight> nydel: look for gearman workers specifically. it's really good
[07:47] <the_dark_knight> nydel: suppose my gearman worker is a python program. I want this program to run always. for some reason if it stops, because the gearman daemon stops, it should restart; its really important that it should run indefinitely. shoud I put it in /etc/init.d? what should I do?
[07:48] <nydel> the_dark_knight: i need to restart but i'm really interested in this, i'll be back in 5 minutes or fewer. i have a few ideas involving multiple bash scripts.
[07:48] <panzersajt> I would like to add some applications to notification area in Ubuntu 12.10 I have tryed editing with dconf but still nothing.
[07:48] <Kartagis> how can I update the path `which` uses? I already exported $PATH with the new value
[07:49] <foobArrr> I have problems with distorted sound and echo with vlc. Often sound is only distorted for the first few seconds or a minute of a file, then sound is normal. When I skip to the next song/video, sound is distorted again. Also volume levels are strange: some videos are loud, some are quiet, in mplayer they have similar volume. I tried recording the distortions with Sound Recorder, but I can't get that to work.
[07:49] <Jordan_U> Kartagis: What makes you think that it needs "updating"?
[07:50] <rinzler> does anyone have any experience with wiican? I am trying to create a custom mapping, but it won't allow me to save it...
[07:50] <kushal_kumaran> panzersajt: I believe just running the relevant application (skype/xchat) will make the notification area icon show up, if the application itself supports this.  You cannot explicitly add stuff there.
[07:50] <Kartagis> Jordan_U: which: no drush in (/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin
[07:50] <jonk> I'd like to use boot-repair from "Ubuntu Secure Remix"  but I have an error saying : "Encrypted partition detected. Please retry after opening it..." Yes my partitions is encrypted but I opened it (with cryptsetup)  before launching boot-repair. So do you know what's going on ?
[07:50] <Jordan_U> Kartagis: What is the output of "echo $PATH"?
[07:51] <Kartagis> Jordan_U: echo $PATH ---> /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/root/bin:/usr/local/bin/drush
[07:51] <lyra> Hi, when I try to upgrade to quantal I get
[07:51] <lyra> An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade:
[07:52] <ahmad> yay shared folder set up finished :)
[07:52] <lyra> E:Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[07:52] <Kartagis> ahmad: smb share?
[07:52] <Jordan_U> Kartagis: Only directories go in $PATH, I assume that /usr/local/bin/drush is not a directory.
[07:52] <Kartagis> Jordan_U: it is
[07:53] <ahmad> Kartagis, shared folder for virtual box from host to vm
[07:53] <ahmad> lyra try sudo apt-get -y autoremove autoclean clean
[07:53] <ahmad> ops thats 3 commands
[07:53] <the_dark_knight> what happens when I put some bin in /etc/init.d
[07:54] <Jordan_U> Kartagis: What is the output of "lsb_release -d"?
[07:54] <the_dark_knight> how do i restart some service even if it gets failed? using cron
[07:54] <ahmad> sudo apt-get autoremove
[07:54] <ahmad> sudo apt-get autoclean
[07:54] <ahmad> sudo apt-get clean
[07:55] <ahmad> then do update
[07:55] <lyra> ahmad: I did that, still says the same
[07:55] <GreekFreak> Hi all
[07:55] <lyra> I'm wondering if I should just run dist-upgrade anyway, it changed all the repos in sources.list from precise to quantal already
[07:56] <ahmad> wierd :/ hopefully someone else can help
[07:56] <majnoon> is there a way to tell wether you have 32 or 64 bit ubuntu ?? (preferably commandline)
[07:56] <crizis> majnoon, uname -a
[07:56] <MaxMuts> hey
[07:57] <GreekFreak> Does anyone here know anything about Ubuntu for Android? Is it out yet, or still being tested? And most importantly, will we be able to install it ourselves, or only purchase Canonical phones?
[07:57] <crizis> GreekFreak, it'll very likely be OEM-only product
[07:57] <crizis> unfortunately :(
[07:58] <majnoon> from what i read you need dock thingy to run it right
[07:58] <crizis> and, rooted phone at minimum
[07:58] <crizis> guess someone will hack it for cyanogenmod or somesuch sooner or later, whenever it gets released..
[07:59] <GreekFreak> OEM as in from Samsung, or OEM from Canonical?
[07:59] <GreekFreak> crizis ^
[08:00] <crizis> hard to say, there's practially no useful information released about it
[08:00] <nydel> the_dark_knight: i'm returned
[08:00] <GreekFreak> crizis, which is why I asked here haha I've heard Canonical guys hang out here sometimes
[08:00] <GreekFreak> thanks man
[08:00] <jonk> I'd like to use boot-repair from "Ubuntu Secure Remix"  but I have an error saying : "Encrypted partition detected. Please retry after opening it..." Yes my partitions is encrypted but I opened it (with cryptsetup)  before launching boot-repair. So do you know what's going on ?
[08:01] <MrPoopyPants> how do I change the colors on ircii?
[08:01] <MrPoopyPants> this is somewhat distracting
[08:02] <MrPoopyPants> I couldn't get bitchx to run, even though I put it into /usr/bin and gave it the right permissions, it kept saying /usr/bin/bitchx not found
[08:02] <nydel> MrPoopyPants: i just changed my terminal profile
[08:02] <MrPoopyPants> maybe I'm missing something in bash?
[08:02] <nydel> MrPoopyPants: what terminal are you using, gnome-terminal?
[08:03] <MrPoopyPants> no just regular old bash terminal, no gui
[08:04] <MrPoopyPants> Love me or hate me for it, IMHO linux is for servers
[08:04] <yugandhar> Hi Guys, Please tell me How can we monitor apache urls on ubuntu?
[08:06] <Mrokii> Hello. Since upgrading to 12.10 copying files off of my camera is very problematic. Nautilus stops randomly, writing a 0KB-file and then I have to close the progress-window manually and copy again.
[08:06] <Mrokii> Is there something I can do about it? Is that a known bug?
[08:07] <Mrokii> Plus at the moment I can't mount my second internal HD and not any kind of usb-sticks. Whenever I plug one in I get "Adding read ACL for uid 1000 to `/media/myUsername' failed: Operation not supported"
[08:08] <MrPoopyPants> ok so I have a problem. ircii reset my console colors, and while it's pleasant I need to know how to change them back
[08:09] <nydel> MrPoopyPants: #ircii & #irssi -- not to blow you off, you'll just get better help there
[08:09] <MrPoopyPants> I beg for help
[08:09] <nydel> MrPoopyPants: i really think, especially if you're using a gnome-terminal & irssi, you should just change your terminal profile's colors.
[08:09] <nydel> MrPoopyPants: that's what i did with irssi & i got it looking beautiful.
[08:10]  * MrPoopyPants punches himself in the ear repeatedly
[08:10] <fairuz> From Live CD menu, can I drop to CLI?
[08:11] <MrPoopyPants> pretty please with sugar on top/
[08:11] <majnoon> says "almost finished copying files" for last 10 minutes
[08:11] <MrPoopyPants> meh
[08:11] <Jordan_U> fairuz: You can chose "Try without installing" and open GNOME Terminal.
[08:12] <fairuz> jordan-U I want to avoid loading the GUI
[08:12] <Jordan_U> fairuz: You can also use ctrl+alt+F1 to get to a tty.
[08:12] <Jordan_U> fairuz: Why?
[08:12] <fairuz> the virtual terminal is available already when the live cd menu comes out?
[08:12] <nydel> MrPoopyPants: are you not listening
[08:12] <Jordan_U> fairuz: To which menu are you reffering?
[08:13] <majnoon> there used to be a way to get system notices on ctrl+alt+f12
[08:13] <fairuz> Jordan_U: Live CD menu.
[08:13] <undoredoo> Hi! I'm loosing my #ubuntu-channel virginity today, so be gentle with me. ;) I'm having a problem with my ethernet adapter (Intel 82579LM). It needs to be installed and/or modprobed on every start up in order to work properly. Quite disturbing. Is there a way to make the install permanent? I'm running on 12.04. Thanks!
[08:14] <fairuz> The menu where you choose to Try Ubuntu or install Ubuntu.
[08:14] <Jordan_U> fairuz: I'm going to assume that you're talking about the boot menu, in which case you can boot into single user mode, but that may not be what you want. Why do you not want a GUI? What is your end goal?
[08:14] <fairuz> Jordan_U: Laptop is very low spec, that it can barely load the gui.
[08:14] <Jordan_U> fairuz: Are you trying to install Ubuntu?
[08:15] <fairuz> Jordan_U: No. Just try to take some data from the HDD
[08:16] <Jordan_U> fairuz: At the syslinux boot menu you can add the kernel parameter "single" to boot into single user mode.
[08:16] <majnoon> aptdaemon like apt-get ?
[08:16] <majnoon> in general ?
[08:17] <redi> I have a weird problem with Evolution now that I upgraded to 12.10 -- attachments seem to be missing from e-mails
[08:17] <fairuz> Jordan_U: syslinux boot menu == Live CD menu?
[08:17] <redi> I can see the attachment icon in the e-mail view but when I open the e-mail, the attachment bar or whatever it's called isn't there
[08:18] <Eagleman> How do i install php 5.2.0 on ubuntu?
[08:18] <Jordan_U> fairuz: There are multiple menus in the LiveCD, two of which have options for "Try Ubuntu" vs "Install Ubuntu", the second of which is displayed after the GUI has loaded so I assume you're talking about the first, which is the syslinux boot menu. Saying just "LiveCD menu" is not enough.
[08:19] <fairuz> Jordan_U: I mean the first menu. Sorry.
[08:19] <fairuz> What is single user mode btw?
[08:20] <Jordan_U> fairuz: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_user_mode
[08:20] <Ex0deus> anyone recommend a good cms for a bussiness style site?
[08:21] <ahmad> drupal 7
[08:21] <nydel> Ex0deus: "BlogWiki" is pretty interesting & versatile
[08:21] <jay_> the application xchat-gnome has closed unexpectedly (often)
[08:22] <nydel> Ex0deus: i run it on my iPhone's lighttpd & have loved its simplicity & potential complexity
[08:22] <fairuz> Jordan_U: Ok. So single user mode will not load the GUI?
[08:22] <Jordan_U> fairuz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Changing_the_CD.27s_Default_Boot_Options (though single user mode isn't mentioned there specifically, how to add kernel parameters is, and the kernel parameter you would add would be "single").
[08:22] <Ex0deus> for a business site? nydel
[08:22] <Jordan_U> fairuz: Correct. It also won't load networking and most other services.
[08:22] <fairuz> Jordan_U: Ok thanks
[08:22] <Jordan_U> fairuz: You're welcome.
[08:23] <Ex0deus> well i'm gonna loot into both drupal7 and blogwiki
[08:23] <Ex0deus> look even
[08:23] <Ex0deus> thanks both
[08:23] <coolroot> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1299064/ <--- pls help i'm using ubuntu 10.04 32bit here thanx
[08:24] <crizis> coolroot, start software sources and disable that ppa..
[08:25] <nydel> Ex0deus: yes i think so. it can be turned into whatever you like.
[08:25] <nydel> Ex0deus: what manner of business are you doing? if it's software planning or communication-based like that, BlogWiki is wonderful
[08:25] <nydel> Ex0deus: how complicated is the content you need to manage?
[08:26] <nydel> Ex0deus: & how open-eyed are your front-end users?
[08:26] <cnf> morning
[08:26] <redi> http://askubuntu.com/questions/205050/attachments-missing-in-evolution-since-12-10-upgrade
[08:26] <nydel> cnf: 'mornin
[08:26] <Ex0deus> well i want to do a media site
[08:26] <cnf> is there a way to make unity remember window size?
[08:27] <magic_al> hey all, can anyone help me? i have installed ubuntu 12.10 on my new lenovo thinkpad. but the card reader wont work. what can i do or where can i look for a solution?
[08:30] <aali83> damn can't believe my name is so popular had to register this one instead > <
[08:31] <nydel> the_dark_knight: did you solve your scheduled task problem?
[08:33] <wkhan113> hello, does anyone know what that screen when you boot up and the ubuntu logo with a dotted progress bar is displayed is called?
[08:35] <crizis> wkhan113, plymouth is the software, iirc
[08:36] <majnoon> is there a way can get the boot messages back ??
[08:36] <majnoon> no know what all it means but like WATCHING it
[08:38] <wkhan113> crizis: thanks, how do I change that loading screen to another picture for example
[08:39] <rigo> hey
[08:39] <rigo> can you tell me a ftp client with "TUI" what not midnight commander is?
[08:40] <mickepaprika> i have the problem that my screen freezes for about 1 second every 30 secs... it seems to just be the screen (and possibly input as well, difficult to verify), but not the whole system as the sound is still working, anyone who has the time to help me debug this?
[08:40] <magic_al> hey all, can anyone help me? i have installed ubuntu 12.10 on my new lenovo thinkpad. but the card reader wont work. what can i do or where can i look for a solution?
[08:42] <batidohacendado> hi
[08:43] <batidohacendado> from android
[08:44] <wariat> may i ask if there is any big diference between apt-get and coworkers and aptitude to install uninstall stuff in ubuntu if i'm using commandline only? I mean is aptitude making anything more? maybe better? I understand that apt is the default and first software manager in debian/ubuntu so it is only one who is working 100% correct. is it?
[08:44] <Mrokii> magic_al: I've experienced the same problem. I get the error message "Adding read ACL for uid 1000 to `/media/myUsername' failed: Operation not supported". In my case it's a memory card from a camera and I found out that I can still mount the camera directly.
[08:45] <samurai2> Hi, how do you send a command to a screen session? thanks
[08:45] <magic_al> Mrokii, in my case i not even get a error msg. just nothing happens when i put my card into the device
[08:46] <samurai2> I tried using session -S session_name -X stuff 'echo a', but it only print out the echo a without running it
[08:46] <rigo> any idea?
[08:46] <Mrokii> Damn. There is definitely a problem with mounting USB devices in 12.10.
[08:46] <zalgor> Hi. I am using pam_mkhome in common-session. It works fine (lightdmlogin, su, sudo...) But a sshd-login does not create a home automatically, also the common-session is included.It also fails, if I write "session    required    pam_mkhomedir.so skel=/etc/skel/ umask=0077" directly into the pam.d/sshd. any ideas?
[08:49] <chk> guten morgen
[08:49] <chk> ich wollte ein skript schreiben das folgendes tun soll:
[08:50] <chk> wenn die ausgabe eines programms xxx enthält dann, sonst
[08:50] <Mrokii> chk: wrong language :)
[08:50] <chk> ok sorry ;)
[08:50] <Noskcaj> chk: please try to use english
[08:50] <Mrokii> if you want to use German, better go to #ubuntu-de
[08:51] <samurai2> はいそうです
[08:51] <Noskcaj> samuria2: please use english
[08:52] <chk> i need a script with the function: if ouput from am programm xxx the do ..., else ...
[08:52] <Mrokii> omg, copying stuff off of a camera has really become a pita with 12.10, with random stopping. Isn't there a solution or is that a known bug?
[08:52] <konza> chk, grep for it or check the exit status(preferred method)..
[08:53] <cnf> what irc client do you guys suggest?
[08:54] <konza> cnf, I use Xchat
[08:54] <Kartagis> I'm using the clementine player, and it won't restore to a full screen. any ideas?
[08:54] <Noskcaj> cnf: xchat
[08:54] <awestroke> cnf: quassel
[08:54] <Kartagis> kvirc
[08:54] <InstantKrimson> cnf: psi
[08:54] <Kartagis> cnf: kvirc
[08:54] <Mrokii> cnf: depends if you want to use GUI or terminal. I use weechat.
[08:54] <awestroke> irssi
[08:54] <cnf> haha, thanks :P
[08:54] <cnf> and unity
[08:54] <cnf> :(
[08:55] <Eagleman> Why am i downloading files on a php website instead of viewing files?
[08:55] <Eagleman> Files get automatcly downloaded
[08:55] <Kartagis> Eagleman: google for AddType
[08:56] <iceroot> Eagleman: because the php interpreter on apache is not running
[08:56] <iceroot> Eagleman: if apache is unable to interpret the php files they are handled as unkown and because of that your browser is trying to download them
[08:56] <Eagleman> Sop addtype?
[08:56] <Eagleman> So
[08:57] <iceroot> Eagleman: you installed the php extension for apache?
[08:57] <Eagleman> yes
[08:57] <brontosaurusrex> cnf: chatzilla, it has this amazing CTRL ++ and CTRL + - feature (for font size)
[08:57] <Kartagis> Eagleman: yes, AddType
[08:57] <Eagleman> Well i think i did
[08:58] <iceroot> Eagleman: on ubuntu? normally the install-scripts are enabling php by default, you uses apache and php from the repos?
[08:58] <Eagleman> I had a lot of trouble installing php 5.2
[08:58] <iceroot> Eagleman: sudo apt-get install php5
[08:58] <Eagleman> i need php 5.2
[08:59] <iceroot> Eagleman: then please see #httpd we only support php from the repos, manual installations are not supported (and not good)
[08:59] <konza> Eagleman, you need to install the apache-php module also
[09:00] <Eagleman> also did that
[09:00] <Eagleman> apt-get install -t libapache2-mod-php5
[09:01] <llutz> Eagleman: "sudo a2enmod php5"
[09:02] <Eagleman> ./usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp5.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[09:02] <Eagleman> SO i need to get the .so file from somewhere
[09:02] <Eagleman> It was not placed there
[09:02] <pietr> What has happened to the 32-bit libs that were present in previous versions of ubuntu through ia32-libs? Can I install 32-bit libraries on my 64-bit system? E.g. libgtk2.0-dev:i386 on my 64-bit system where libgtk2.0-dev (64-bit) is already installed?
[09:02] <llutz> Eagleman: sudo apt-get install --reinstall libapache2-mod-php5
[09:03] <Eagleman> E: Broken packages
[09:04] <Eagleman> ow i am even on debian...
[09:04] <Eagleman> libapache2-mod-php5 : Depends: php5-common (= 5.3.3-7+squeeze14) but 5.2.10.dfsg.1-2ubuntu6.10 is to be installed
[09:04] <llutz>  #debian then Eagleman
[09:04] <moza> Hello, i currently have 10.04 LTS, is it possible to upgrade to 12.04 LTS and keep Gnome (and hopefully most of my current installed things)?
[09:04] <Eagleman> sorry
[09:04] <tarelerulz> Is  12.04 supported  any more?  I have not used it for while and I don't see bunch of updates
[09:04] <llutz> Eagleman: mixing debian/ubuntu packages is a stupid idea
[09:05] <aali83> Eagleman,                                                                    if command -v php5 >/dev/null;
[09:05] <aali83>         then echo -e "- PHP5 libraries are already installed.";
[09:05] <aali83>         else sudo apt-get -y install php5 libapache2-mod-php5 && sudo apt-get -y install phpmyadmin;
[09:05] <aali83> fi
[09:05] <moza> tarelerulz: yes, it must still be supported, it is LTS.
[09:05] <DJones> tarelerulz: 12.04 is a LTS version so will be supported for 5 years
[09:07] <majnoon> ok question:: apt-get dist-upgrade gets all possible upgrades right ?
[09:08] <tarelerulz> What is the ubuntu general chat ?
[09:08] <majnoon> there oftopic room
[09:08] <DJones> tarelerulz: #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:11] <redi> Can someone help me restore my Unity desktop in Ubuntu 12.10? I rebooted and compiz isn't working (I can launch the Classic Gnome desktop tho)
[09:11] <redi> syslog is saying compiz.desktop is respawning too quickly
[09:11] <redi> I can basicly reach the desktop but compiz won't launch and I have no idea how to relaunch it when I can't access launcher or terminal
[09:11] <lesshaste> what does the s in drwxr-sr-x mean?
[09:11] <brontosaurusrex> majnoon: i think thats more debian, you should just use apt-get upgrade on ubuntu (but correct me if iam wrong)
[09:12] <freijon> redi: you ahve no window manager now? or why can't you access the terminal?
[09:12] <freijon> can you start a file browser?
[09:12] <kos_> salve
[09:12] <redi> freijon: no window manager indeed
[09:13] <freijon> can you start nautilus?
[09:13] <redi> I have only a few image icons on my desktop
[09:13] <kos_> ho installato Ubuntu 12.10 desktop (64bit), mi sono accorto che non è più possibile formattare i pendrive da unity (perchè non c'è più Formatta nel menù), siccome non mi piace moltissimo l'utility disk, posso reintegrare la voce formatta sul menù in unity come accadeva in ubuntu 12.04? grazie anticipatamente della risposta
[09:13] <redi> how would I do that?
[09:13] <freijon> redi: open a folder on your desktop
[09:13] <redi> I'll create new folder and open it!
[09:13] <redi> sec
[09:14] <redi> freijon: it opens halfway outside the screen
[09:15] <redi> anyway, then what?
[09:15] <freijon> redi: try to navigate to /usr/bin/ and doubleclick "gnome-terminal"
[09:15] <redi> ok
[09:15] <kos_> someone can help me? i've installed Ubuntu 12.10 64bit on my desktop PC and i cant use the Format utility from unity like in ubuntu 12.04. can i do something to solve this problem?
[09:15] <redi> I have terminal open in another TTY already tho
[09:15] <redi> thats how I'm in IRC :P
[09:16] <freijon> I thought you can't open the terminal? :P
[09:16] <redi> not from GUI
[09:16] <redi> I'm on CLI in TTY1 in IRC
[09:16] <redi> and have TTY 2 open for checking syslog :P
[09:17] <freijon> yeah, but you need the gnome-terminal to restart compiz
[09:17] <redi> yep, true
[09:17] <redi> testing
[09:17] <freijon> at least thats how I'd do it
[09:17] <majnoon> ok installing xchat on wubi install
[09:18] <farciarz84> how to upgrade my python 2.5 -> 2.7 on ubuntu 8.04?
[09:18] <redi> freijon: doesn't seem to be working
[09:19] <redi> (i can't see what I type there as it opens outside the screen)
[09:19] <redi> but nothing happends with typing compiz or compiz --replace
[09:19] <freijon> redi: you can't execute gnome-terminal?
[09:20] <redi> I can execute it but it open-s halfway offscreen
[09:20] <redi> anyway, now I tried doubleclicking compiz from usr/lib and the screen flashed
[09:20] <freijon> does it happend every time you log in?
[09:20] <redi> if nothing else, I got the windows inside my viewport now
[09:20] <redi> yes
[09:20] <redi> upgraded to 12.10 last week
[09:20] <redi> third reboot today and bamm
[09:21] <fairuz> kos_ !it
[09:21] <redi> ah
[09:21] <redi> [1]+  Segmentation fault      (core dumped) compiz
[09:22] <freijon> redi: did you install all updates?
[09:22] <redi> yup, apt-get update & upgrade installs nothing now
[09:22] <redi> it worked for a week
[09:22] <redi> is there any meta-package I could uninstall with purge & reinstall
[09:23] <freijon> I'm not sure how the current situation is with unity, but maybe you can use a fallback version: "sudo restart lightdm" from TTY
[09:23] <redi> ah lightdm
[09:23] <redi> thought it was still gdm
[09:23] <redi> anyway, that takes me to loginscreen
[09:24] <redi> and after logging in it's still the same
[09:24] <redi> like I said before, the default session is fubar, I can start a working gnome classic tho
[09:24] <vikash> i am getting 4 shift/reduce option when i am compiling my YACC program..what can i do further
[09:24] <freijon> redi: did you upgrade compiz recently? maybe downgrading would fix it
[09:24] <wols> redi: a new user can log in normally? if so it's your config in your ~
[09:25] <redi> segfault in libcairo of compiz
[09:25] <redi> says syslog
[09:25] <vikash> i am getting 4 shift/reduce option when i am compiling my YACC program..what can i do further
[09:27] <vikash> i am getting 4 shift/reduce option when i am compiling my YACC program..what can i do further
[09:29] <vikash> . #fsmk
[09:30] <freijon> redi: did downgrade help?
[09:30] <blazemore> So I have a virtusertable which is set up like this "foo@domain.com     %1@mail.domain.com" but messages to foo@domain.com are being rejected
[09:30] <blazemore> Whereas mail to foo@mail.domain.com are being accepted - this is not how it's supposed to work, the "mail" bit is only added by the smtp filter when it's on its way to our email server
[09:30] <majnoon_> !ot
[09:30] <blazemore> I don't know how to fix this at all, but I have to do it because this customer isn't being able to send mail, can anyone help a brother out?
[09:30] <redi> freijon: im not sure how to do that
[09:30] <vikash> i am getting 4 shift/reduce option when i am compiling my YACC program..what can i do further
[09:30] <redi> hard to find info when machine is fubar
[09:31] <oscailt> Hi. Was wondering. Do yous have a dev channel?
[09:31] <freijon> redi: easiest way is with Synaptic
[09:31] <Noskcaj> oscailt: great spelling
[09:31] <freijon> or a CLI command which I do not have present :p
[09:31] <vikash> i am getting 4 shift/reduce option when i am compiling my YACC program..what can i do further
[09:32] <redi> ill open a Gnome session and try to figure it out
[09:32] <Valtam> oscailt, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList
[09:33] <jolaren> I'm helping a friend to setup his server on Ubuntu Server.. I recently pointed the DNS to the server and now I see that It's opening up some wordpress site ... and that is not what I want. I'm trying to find nginx or such to point it correctly but I don't know what I'm looking for because no nginx directory exists
[09:34] <blazemore> jolaren: Is there a wordpress site installed on the server?
[09:34] <jolaren> blazemore: yes, several
[09:34] <blazemore> jolaren: Look in /etc/httpd or /etc/apache
[09:35] <jolaren> blazemore: bingo! thanks..
[09:39] <kuuhmuhmu> hey i want you help to set samba as service when start ; start smbd
[09:39] <nolka> алле!
[09:39] <kuuhmuhmu> hey i want you help to set samba as service when start : ubuntu server ; start smbd
[09:39] <bin_bash> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/questions?distro=desktop&bits=32&release=latest
[09:39] <bin_bash> what the fuck is this
[09:39] <FloodBot1> bin_bash: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:40] <IdleOne> !language | bin_bash
[09:40] <kuuhmuhmu> hey i want you help to set samba as service when start : ubuntu server ; start smbd
[09:40] <bin_bash> Okay, IdleOne
[09:40] <bin_bash> What the actual is this crap? http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/questions?distro=desktop&bits=32&release=latest
[09:40] <bin_bash> Begging for donations now? Really?
[09:41] <Valtam> how are they begging?
[09:41] <IdleOne> bin_bash: it is a donation page, yes really. Not on topic for this support channel, please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic.
[09:41] <bin_bash> IdleOne, it's not a donation page, it's the download page.
[09:41] <bin_bash> The download page should be a download
[09:41] <kuuhmuhmu> hey i want you help to set samba as service when start : ubuntu server ; start smbd
[09:41] <bin_bash> not "please donate to our corporation"
[09:41] <IdleOne> bin_bash: agreed, but still not on topic for the support channel.
[09:42] <bin_bash> If anything, thye should be paying users for actually using this bloat.
[09:42] <filippos> hello people... i tried to connect to my office pc using cisco vpn... at some point i succeeded by using the cisco client and two patches that were fixing an error that occurred due to kernel folders/path etc.. Later, i conected to the office pc, did my job, and turned off the laptop. When i turned it on, i could connect to wifi, skype and deluge worked perfectly but i could not open not even one web page, no matter the browser. It was as if i di
[09:42] <filippos> dnt have internet (but i could chat through skype).. any ideas on how to check what might be workng?
[09:42] <IdleOne> bin_bash: Please stop with the off topic discourse in here and move to #ubuntu-offtopic.
[09:42] <kuuhmuhmu> hey i want you help to set samba as service when start : ubuntu server ; start smbd
[09:43] <filippos> *any ideas on how to check what might be wrong?
[09:44] <cnf> hmm, i have 2 bluetooth icons in my menu...
[09:44] <bin_bash> filippos, did you try logging into the router and checking blocked ports?
[09:44] <kuuhmuhmu> !
[09:44] <kuuhmuhmu> !bot
[09:44] <kuuhmuhmu> !samba service
[09:44] <Valtam> kuuhmuhmu, #ubuntu-server
[09:46] <filippos> bin_bash: i could not connect to the router for some reason.. The router is not mine (so idont know details - also i am not good with these things), but  why would i have blocked ports? i mean, i could connect to the internet perfectly ok, and before restarting the laptop i was on a vpn with the office's pc...
[09:47] <bin_bash> filippos, you just said that you couldn't load webpages
[09:47] <bin_bash> that means port80 was being blocked
[09:48] <angolar> have  someone who speaeks pt
[09:48] <filippos> bin_bash: sorry.. before restarting i had webpages, vpn, eveything.. after restarting laptop i had only skype, torrents, but no webpages etc
[09:49] <DJones> !pt | angolar
[09:49] <bin_bash> filippos, i guess you can't read. Check. For. Blocked. Ports.
[09:50] <angolar> thanks ubottu
[09:51] <filippos> bin_bash: is it possible to connect with torrent client, or skype but not with browser due to closed ports? they use different ports? how can i check that?:)
[09:51] <filippos> bin_bash : is it with the use of nmap?
[09:51] <bin_bash> Yes they all use different ports.
[09:52] <wols> filippos: while it is possible (yes they use different ports. use netstat or htop) it's pretty much never that port 80 for browsers is closed but ports for torrents and skype are open
[09:52] <bin_bash> wols, that's not true. I had that exact problem
[09:53] <wols> bin_bash: and the reasoning for this was?
[09:53] <bin_bash> Blocked ports on the router, wols
[09:53] <filippos> bin_bash: a ok.. thanx.. just in case it is a ports issue, how can i change the settings (open closed ports)? now i am at the office, so idont have access to my homes laptop, so i will do these things later today... Also, could this be a result of the cisco client(plus the patches) that i installed?
[09:53] <wols> and this someone blocked them why?
[09:54] <bin_bash> filippos, you have to login to the router, either via telnet, ssh, or the web interface and check to make sure everything is squared away, and yes it could be the result of that
[09:54] <bin_bash> wols, it wasn't done purposely
[09:54] <filippos> or could it just be a provider issue? unfortunately, i dont have another machine back home to check if it was an machine issue or a network issue..
[09:55] <bin_bash> filippos, is it a modem/router combo
[09:55] <filippos> bin_bash: just router
[09:56] <bin_bash> filippos, plug directly into the modem and see if you can connect to webpages etc
[09:58] <filippos> bin_bash: also, i suppose that the fact that i cant ping any ip could be due to the same issue (port closed)? :)
[09:58] <bin_bash> could be that ping is blocked
[09:58] <bin_bash> like I said
[09:58] <bin_bash> try directly from the router
[09:58] <bin_bash> if it doesnt work
[09:59] <bin_bash> then let me know
[09:59] <FloodBot1> bin_bash: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:59] <filippos> bin_bash: thanx a lot for your help... i ll give it a try!!!
[09:59] <bin_bash> filippos, i meant directly from the modem
[09:59] <bin_bash> via ethernet
[10:01] <DocBarretta> Hello!
[10:01] <bin_bash> h
[10:02] <kuuhmuhmu> hey i want you help to set samba as service when start : ubuntu server ; start smbd
[10:02] <DocBarretta> Wondering if anyone can help me... i am quite new to linux and am having trouble in terminal
[10:02] <wols> DocBarretta: state your actual problem
[10:03] <bin_bash> !help
[10:04] <Lachezar> I have no Spell Check in LibreOffice. LibreOffice has Hunspell module, but Bulgarian has Aspell dictionary only.
[10:04] <bin_bash> Lachezar, did you consider installing an English dictionary?
[10:04] <bin_bash> !next
[10:04] <cnf> hmm, now evolution keeps crashing
[10:05] <bin_bash> cnf, did you try running it from the command line?
[10:05] <Lachezar> bin_bash: why would I need English dictionary? I need Bulgarian dictionary?
[10:05] <cnf> not yet
[10:05] <bin_bash> Lachezar, did you try installing a Bulgarian one then?
[10:05] <DocBarretta> I am trying to build ChromiumOS onto my netbook and seem to be working in circles. I get to the step where I need to download the sourcecode onto my netbook and each time, I get an error telling me "repo" is not a valid command when it was supposed to be installed in step 2 and from what I can see, it was done so sucessfully
[10:05] <bin_bash> cnf, we can't help if we don't know the error message
[10:06] <Lachezar> bin_bash: There is only Aspell Bulgarian dictionary, Hunspell dictionary is not available.
[10:06] <majnoon> ok got question :: if put reg nvidia drivers in (nonfree) it will need reboot right ?
[10:06] <bin_bash> Lachezar, write one :)
[10:06] <bin_bash> DocBarretta, repo is not a recognized command.
[10:06] <Lachezar> bin_bash: Not funny at all.
[10:06] <bin_bash> Lachezar, if hunspell doesn't have a Bulgarian dictionary there's nothing we can do about it
[10:06] <cnf> bin_bash,  doesn't seem to crash when i run it from cli though :P
[10:07] <bin_bash> cnf, how else are you running it
[10:07] <bin_bash> cnf, when you run it from the GUI what command is being executed
[10:07] <Lachezar> bin_bash: Hmmm... That's not how I see things: I *USED* to have spell check... Now I don't...
[10:08] <bin_bash> Lachezar, you did you try installing a hunspell bulgarian dict?
[10:08] <cnf> bin_bash, good question, how do i find how unity launches it?
[10:08] <Lachezar> bin_bash: Are you a BOT?
[10:08] <bin_bash> No?
[10:08] <Lachezar> bin_bash: Right... A bot... Damn.
[10:08] <bin_bash> cnf, look in the config file.
[10:08] <bin_bash> Lachezar, I'm not a bot
[10:08] <kuuhmuhmu> hey i want you help to set samba as service when start : ubuntu server ; start smbd
[10:08] <bin_bash> !samba kuuhmuhmu
[10:08] <wols> it should start from the time you installed it
[10:08] <Lachezar> bin_bash: You certainly behave like one... Asking the same quesiton over and over again.
[10:08] <cnf> "the" config file?
[10:09] <cnf> sorry, i'm not used to X related stuff
[10:09] <DocBarretta> cd ${SOURCE_REPO} repo init -u https://git.chromium.org/chromiumos/manifest.git  <- This is the command I was instructed to type but when I do, it says: No command 'repo' found, did you mean:  Command 'rep' from package 'rep' (universe)  Command 'repl' from package 'nmh' (universe)  Command 'repl' from package 'mailutils-mh' (universe) repo: command not found
[10:09] <bin_bash> cnf, whichever config files unity reads from
[10:09] <bluelf> hey guys, I just installed ubuntu 12.10. Touchpad features like scrolling, tapping, etc. are not working what should I do?
[10:09] <bin_bash> !give kuuhmuhmu sambda
[10:09] <bin_bash> !give kuuhmuhmu samba
[10:09] <bin_bash> wow really
[10:09] <bin_bash> !give samba kuuhmuhmu
[10:09] <Lachezar> DocBarretta: repo is a Google tool. Let me check where you can get it.
[10:10] <cnf> bin_bash,  that i do not know :P
[10:10] <bin_bash> Lachezar, I only asked the same question thrice because it's thus been unanswered
[10:10] <gab_> echo
[10:10] <vivek_> Hi everyone, I'm having some trouble on my new Ubuntu 12.04.1 installation. Can someone please help me out.
[10:10] <konza> vivek_, whats your problem
[10:10] <devnill> whats the problem vivek_
[10:11] <bin_bash> !ask vivek_
[10:11] <Lachezar> DocBarretta: https://dl-ssl.google.com/dl/googlesource/git-repo/repo
 , I have gotten it from www.chromium.org and downloaded it using Terminal in Root. It was one of my first steps. So this shouldn't be happening... I don't know where I went wrong! I followed every step exactly
[10:11] <Lachezar> bin_bash: At what point 'There is NO such package' is not an answer?
[10:11] <bluelf> hey guys, I just installed ubuntu 12.10. Touchpad features like scrolling, tapping, etc. are not working what should I do?
[10:11] <bin_bash> DocBarretta, just install chrome
[10:11] <bin_bash> Lachezar, if there is no such package, then how is it you had it before? You're not being concise.
[10:12] <Lachezar> bin_bash: I've had spell-check, I do not know what package provided it, I am not sure it was Hunspell.
[10:12] <vivek_> I get artefacts on fullscreen flash videos and fullscreen opengl applications. I'm using the proprietary driver on an ATI Mobility RadeonHD 4570 card.
[10:13] <bin_bash> Lachezar, you're not paying attention to me: If there is no Bulgarian dictionary for Hunspell, THERE IS NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT IT.
[10:13] <Lachezar> DocBarretta: You probably need to put repo in the path. 'EXPORT PATH=$PATH:~/bin' and put repo in ~/bin
[10:13] <vmachine> Is Jflow supported on Reth interfaces on SRX 240?
 I am trying to install CromiumOS onto my netbook... I have chrome on all my other devices but thought it would be nice to get my netbook to run ChromiumOS instead of paying the $300 it retails at
[10:13] <bin_bash> DocBarretta, why are you asking about chromiumOS here?
 I will try that
[10:14] <bluelf> hey guys, I just installed ubuntu 12.10. Touchpad features like scrolling, tapping, etc. are not working , can you please help me fix that?
 I have to compile it in Linux and since I am having trouble doing so with Terminal, I thought this would be the logical place to ask for help. I am very new to source coding in Linux.
[10:15] <bjaanes> blueelf, look under System Settings -> Mouse and Touchpad.
[10:15] <bjaanes> bluelf
[10:15] <bluelf> bjaanes, there is no options for scroll etc
 Export command not found
[10:16] <bjaanes> bluelf, huh, there is supposed to be. Two finger scroll or something like that. Its usally default at side scroll (scrolling with the right side of the touchpad)
[10:17] <bjaanes> bluelf, it should look something like this: http://resalxh.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/ubuntu_12-04_alps_touchpad.png
[10:17] <bjaanes> Should I not link stuff like that btw? I need to read over the terms again
[10:18] <vivek_> Does anyone have an answer to the problem I just stated? Pardon me if I'm a little slow at typing.
[10:19] <bjaanes> vivek_, does the free drivers not work?
[10:19] <vivek_> It's too slow.
[10:19] <bluelf> bjaanes,In /proc/bus/input/devices lists my devices as PS/2 Generic Mouse
[10:19] <bjaanes> vivek_, well that is too bad. You might need to check out some other versions of the driver
[10:20] <vivek_> I have already done that. But the problem has persisted for a number of releases now.
[10:20] <bluelf> bjaanes, there is no tab of scrolling
[10:20] <bjaanes> bluelf, Right, it doesnt detect it as a touchpad at all
[10:21] <bjaanes> bluelf, has it worked before?
[10:21] <bluelf> bjaanes, it worked fine on ubuntu 12.10
[10:21] <bluelf> bjaanes, it worked fine on ubuntu 12.04
[10:22] <bin_bash> bluelf, did you do a dist-upgrade or a fresh install?
[10:22] <bluelf> bin_bash, fresh install
[10:22] <bin_bash> Why?
[10:22] <bjaanes> Does that matter?
[10:23] <bin_bash> Yes
[10:23] <bluelf> bin_bash,  my coworker had installed 64 bit last time, it made no sense as I have only 3 gigs of ram. and it had some issues
[10:23] <bin_bash> What issues specifically?
[10:24] <jpds> bluelf: No sense? It is 2012.
[10:24] <bjaanes> There is still no good reason to use 64-bit unless you have at LEAST 4GB (IMHO)
[10:24] <crizis> well, if you have only 3gb ram, it's really no-gain
[10:25] <vivek_> bjaanes, the artefacts were noticed with different versions of fglrx. The problem occurs only in fullscreen espically with opengl apps.
[10:25] <bjaanes> Unless for some special cases ofcourse - but generally speaking
[10:25] <bluelf> crizis, thats what I was told
[10:25] <bin_bash> Does 32bit support multithreading?
[10:25] <crizis> of course? :P
[10:25] <bjaanes> lolwut?
[10:25] <bin_bash> I had a helluva problem with multithreading with 32bit
[10:25] <cfhowlett> bluelf: less than 4 gigs should be 32 bit.
[10:25] <jpds> bjaanes / crizis / bluelf: On the other hand is there a good reason NOT to use 64-bit?
[10:26] <bin_bash> cfhowlett, why? If it's a 64bit arch why not use a 64bit OS?
[10:26] <cfhowlett> bin_bash: I can't speak to arch.  However, all the literature I've read on Ubuntu 64 stipulates a minimum of 64 bit.
[10:26] <crizis> jpds, not really :)
[10:26] <bin_bash> jpds, no. If you're using a 64bit architecture, you should be using a 64bit OS. even if there are programs that only exist for 32bit, you can still use them
[10:26] <bin_bash> cfhowlett, what
[10:26] <jpds> bin_bash: I know that.
[10:27] <bin_bash> jpds, there is literally no reason to use a 32bit OS on a 64bit Arch.
[10:27] <bjaanes> jpds, SOME compability issues (allthough most of those are gone by now). But 64-bit actually uses a little bit more memory
[10:27] <bin_bash> cfhowlett, I don't have any idea what you're saying
[10:27] <crizis> http://www.vistax64.com/general-discussion/120090-why-isnt-64bit-twice-fast-32bit.html lol'd
[10:27] <bjaanes> xD
[10:27] <crizis> oops, not, offtopic chan, sorry
[10:28] <gordonjcp> crizis: heh
[10:28] <cfhowlett> bin_bash: nevermind. I must have sent to the wrong nick.
[10:29] <bin_bash> cfhowlett, no i think you just are confused about what i meant by arch
[10:29] <texaco> Hi everyone
[10:29] <cfhowlett> bin_bash: arch linux?
[10:29] <bin_bash> no.
[10:29] <bin_bash> architecture
[10:29] <cfhowlett> bin_bash: architecture!  *dumb me*
[10:30] <gordonjcp> jpds: good reason for *not* using 64-bit - if you're using NVidia binary drivers, the flash plugin is buggy and gives wonky colours
[10:30] <dr_willis> ive not noticed flash issues on my 64 bit box.
[10:30] <gordonjcp> jpds: it's fixable with a small tweak somewhere though
[10:30] <gordonjcp> dr_willis: using NVidia, with binary drivers?
[10:30] <dr_willis> yes gordonjcp
[10:30] <gordonjcp> dr_willis: hmm
[10:30] <bjaanes> gordonjcp, That cant be for everyone. Probably just some setups ;)
[10:31] <gordonjcp> bjaanes: yeah
[10:31] <gordonjcp> it's probably ridiculously specific to *one* particular NV chipset
[10:31] <gordonjcp> tbh I find 64-bit a fair bit slower than 32-bit
[10:31] <bjaanes> For instance, I cant for the life of me use the binary ATI drivers on my 6870 card - but it works for a lot of people
[10:31] <texaco> Hi, I have a question about printers
[10:31] <texaco> I need to buy one,
[10:31] <dr_willis> my nvidia card is like 2 yrs old now.
[10:32] <texaco> wich one could you recommend me?
[10:32] <bluelf> how can make my touchpad visible to os?
[10:32] <bhavana> how to install drupul
[10:32] <dr_willis> texaco: depends on your needs.. avoid cannon brand...
[10:33] <bjaanes> texaco, i dont have any i know of per se, but you can start by browsing a little here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers
[10:33] <texaco> Thanks
[10:33] <bhavana> using command line
[10:33] <texaco> i'm looking for a multifuntion
[10:33] <texaco> i'll see that page
[10:33] <texaco> thanks
[10:34] <bhavana> hey
[10:34] <bjaanes> bhavana, hey
[10:34] <bhavana> how to install drupal in ubantu???
[10:34] <bjaanes> bhavana, Could you give me some background on what you need? Have to downloaded anything? Do you want to install with apt-get or something?
[10:35] <MACscr> anyone had issues writing to their ubuntu samba shares from their osx mountain lion systems? i just did a reformat and i can connect fine (I have samba setup for guest write access), but when i try to write, it asks for auth info (which seems to be from ML and not smb) and then it says i dont have access
[10:35] <bjaanes> bhavana, are you set up with a LAMP server?
[10:35] <MACscr> there are no errors in the ubuntu samba logs either
[10:35] <bhavana> no how to do it
[10:36] <bjaanes> bhavana, ooook. Just do what it says on this page then https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Drupal
[10:36] <gordonjcp> texaco: second-hand shop, pick up an HP Laserjet 4 or Laserjet 5
[10:36] <bjaanes> Can i suggest google to people? Is that rude? Because there seem to often questions that would take one second to get a really good answer from google
[10:37] <bhavana> yeah thanks
[10:37] <gordonjcp> texaco: you'll need to pick up a drum unit at some stage, and probably sort out the connector for the fuser
[10:37] <cfhowlett> !google|bjaanes
[10:37] <gordonjcp> texaco: it will last you the rest of your life
[10:38] <texaco> thanks gordonjcp, i'll check those
[10:38] <gordonjcp> texaco: they're really old but they're built like Volvo 240s
[10:39] <gordonjcp> texaco: the Gods themselves will print out the information leaflets for Ragnarok on Laserjet 4s
[10:39] <bjaanes> ubottu, Got it! Thanks =) Although i would never just tell people to just google it - could suggest that the answer is easly found on google? After giving an answer? =)
[10:39] <texaco> XD
[10:39] <cfhowlett> gordonjcp: LOL!
[10:39] <bjaanes> righto xD
[10:40] <gordonjcp> texaco: and at the end when the forces of order and chaos have battled to the last, all that will be left of humanity will be a Laserjet 4
[10:40] <gordonjcp> with a spotty drum and an intermittent fuser error
[10:41] <gordonjcp> but basically still working
[10:42] <texaco> thank for your all help
[10:48] <dr_willis> gordonjcp:  i got 2 of them ;-)
[10:52] <blazemore> How can I get Japanese characters to show in my web browser (Google Chrome/Chromium) instead of just squares?
[10:52] <blazemore> "わたしの恋はホッチキス" doesn't display for me, for example
[10:54] <dogweather> blazemore: Usually that'd mean that the font doesn't glyphs for those characters.
[10:54] <blazemore> ttf-takao-mincho perhaps?
[10:54] <gordonjcp> dr_willis: mine got "borrowed" and never given back, by a company I used to work for
[10:54] <dogweather> Have you verified the browser's using a font that does have those?
[10:54] <fommil> I have a 200K PDF which doesn't have any images in it. It's only 4 pages! When I try to shrink it the file actually gets bigger by a few K. I need to get it down below 200K to be able to upload it to a site. Any ideas that are better than this? -> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ubuntu-tiphowto-reduce-adobe-acrobat-file-size-from-command-line.html btw, it only uses the Palatino and Century Gothic fonts and was generated from Mac
[10:54] <fommil> Word 2012
[10:54] <FloodBot1> fommil: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:55] <blazemore> dogweather: No, I'm installing the  ttf-takao package and seeing if that works
[10:55] <dogweather> good
[10:55] <dr_willis> i must say my low end $99 wireless brother laser works well in linux.
[10:55] <blazemore> yeah, worked!
[10:55] <dogweather> great
[11:00] <Kartagis> I followed !xen, updated grub, and yet the entry is not there. how come?
[11:00] <Kartagis> !xen
[11:04] <coasterz> anyone know how to rotate the lockscreen 12.04+
[11:04] <coasterz> login screen
[11:10] <MonkeyDust> Kartagis  FYI: there's also ##xen (double #)
[11:10] <Kartagis> MonkeyDust: I figured this would be a grub issue, so I'm asking here
[11:11] <MonkeyDust> Kartagis  true, but now you know
[11:12] <Kartagis> thanks MonkeyDust
[11:14] <cnf> back
[11:15] <cnf> ok, damned evolution keeps core dumping ^^;
[11:16] <cnf> hmm, it seems to think my $HOME is ro
[11:19] <YOUConsulting> Can I install 2 Different Ubuntu versions using wubi, version 10 & version 12 of ubuntu?
[11:24] <ddssc_> hi, can cron run stuff in intervals <1min ?
[11:24] <ddssc_> nvm
[11:25] <YOUConsulting> Can I install 2 Different Ubuntu versions using wubi, version 10 & version 12 of ubuntu?
[11:27] <MonkeyDust> YOUConsulting  wubi is only a pseudo-install inside windows, so to say
[11:28] <YOUConsulting> MonkeyDust: so if I execute 2 different wubi version it should work ?
[11:29] <MonkeyDust> YOUConsulting  guess not, havent tried
[11:29] <YOUConsulting> MonkeyDust:  np, I will just overwrite it :)
[11:29] <MonkeyDust> YOUConsulting  and 10.04 and 10.10 are no longer supported
[11:30] <MonkeyDust> 10.04 only for server
[11:31] <jrib> 10.04 has desktop support until april 2013
[11:37] <guang_> where can i get free ssh account?
[11:37] <jrib> !ot | guang_
[11:38] <ClitorisErrante> hay alguna forma de hackear las contraseñas wpa sin fuerza bruta o diccionarios?
[11:38] <guang_> ok..i will not ask such question
[11:38] <jrib> !es | ClitorisErrante
[11:38] <rkhshm1> i've noticed a weird issue with 12.04 on my laptop T410. When the laptop is suspended(lid closed) and resumed there are times when the OS dives back into a logout mode and takes me to the initial GNOME login screen. and when i login again i see that all my previous applications will be closed
[11:38] <rkhshm1> has anyone faced a similar issue?
[11:39] <ClitorisErrante> is there some way to hack a wpa without brute force or diccionaries?
[11:39] <jrib> ClitorisErrante: we don't discuss that in this channel
[11:39] <dr_willis> sounds like the x server crashed back to the login screen rkhshm1
[11:39] <ClitorisErrante> ok, im sry
[11:40] <rkhshm1> dr_willis: i think so too.. but is this reported earlier on 12.04 ever?
[11:42] <dr_willis> rkhshm1:  i d
[11:42] <rkhshm1> dr_willis: so any ideas about a fix?
[11:43] <dr_willis> some drivers and gardware dont like suspend.
[11:43] <rkhshm1> dr_willis: dont tell me to wait for an upgrade ;)
[11:43] <rkhshm1> hmm.. ok
[11:43] <Oprr> hi everyone!
[11:43] <rkhshm1> this is not a problem actually unless I'm running some VMware instances..
[11:44] <rkhshm1> that would be dangerous for me
[11:44] <ElixirVitae> Does having another window manager effect the performance?
[11:44] <dr_willis> ElixirVitae: another installed but not in use?  no....
[11:44] <ElixirVitae> Also, while I am at it, is there any way to increase performance other than changing window manager(s)?
[11:45] <theadmin> ElixirVitae: Well you can't use two of them at the same time so no, it won't really affect anything
[11:45] <dr_willis> depends on your specs and what tou are doing ElixirVitae
[11:45] <theadmin> ElixirVitae: Also your understanding of "window manager" seems to be wrong. Do you mean things like KDE, GNOME, etc? Those are desktop environments. Window managers are just thing which draw window borders (unless we're talking about xmonad or something)
[11:46] <ElixirVitae> The thing is, dr_willis, I suspect having another window manager and its many dependencies might effect by the way of said dependencies, is it so?
[11:46] <dr_willis> ElixirVitae: if its not running. its just using hd space.
[11:46] <ElixirVitae> oh, yes, I do mean desktop environments WITH window managers, you can add file manager to the equation as well...
[11:47] <theadmin> ElixirVitae: I suggest using Xfce if you're looking for a lightweight one.
[11:47] <ElixirVitae> What I do want to do is, to have ubuntu+unity and have another option, like that is crunchbangs'.
[11:48] <dr_willis> i imagine a single instance of firefox going is using more resources then the rest if the desktop...
[11:48] <cnf> how do i get unity to change my wallpaper every 5 minutes?
[11:48] <theadmin> ElixirVitae: Oh, just apt-get install openbox then, it has nearly none dependencies
[11:48] <ElixirVitae> This way, when I use for usual task I would use unity with its ease-of-use and pretty and polished interface
[11:48] <dr_willis> ElixirVitae: install a different deskt9o. select it at login screen
[11:48] <stimpie> after upgrading to 12.10 I have two online account items in my settings. Does anyone know how to get rid of this?
[11:49] <ElixirVitae> I have, gnome, ubuntu, xfce and openbox right now, and trying out what I like/suits to the task at hand
[11:49] <dr_willis> lubunru is avbout as light of a desktop as you can get
[11:49] <Kveras> Hi. I need some advise on how to properly report a bug that has been following me for a good while now. It's probably not a bug that should be posted to the Ubuntu package, but rather upstream, since the problem is present both in Ubuntu, Arch and any other recent distribution that I have tried so far. The help I need is to figure out what package and what upstream project I should report to. The problem is that when dual booting Linux and Win 7
[11:49] <Kveras> there are severe mouse glitches in Linux. The problem is described in greater detail here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/145175/after-reboot-from-windows-mouse-click-does-not-work-properly . The problem is still present in 12.10. Can anyone have a look and help me figuring out where this bug should be posted?
[11:49] <dr_willis> just running a wm. is lighter still.
[11:49] <ASHER1> :( why ftp no work dammn
[11:49] <ElixirVitae> Is lubuntu lighter than openbox?
[11:50] <jrib> Kveras: #ubuntu-bugs can help you with that
[11:50] <dr_willis> just running a wm. is lighter still..........
[11:50] <theadmin> ElixirVitae: Well LXDE uses openbox as a window manager...
[11:50] <ElixirVitae> Like I do in many games, after learning my way around, I tend to want to start over with now enlightened self.
[11:50] <theadmin> ElixirVitae: So that's not really a comparison you can make. Just openbox would still be lighter.
[11:50] <Kveras> jrib, no answer there for a while, the channel seems a bit inactive.
[11:51] <wols> ElixirVitae: openbox is "lighter" but I doubt it makes much difference. it's not just the DE which makes xubuntu and lubuntu easier to use for old machines
[11:51] <jrib> Kveras: it's not as active as this one, best to be patient
[11:52] <ElixirVitae> Is it plausible to format and start over ubuntu from scratch?
[11:52] <dr_willis> you can always delete your partitions....
[11:52] <ElixirVitae> Or just installing lubuntu and getting unity on top of that as a seperate DE?
[11:52] <jrib> Kveras: I'd see if it happens with different hardware
[11:53] <dr_willis> you can have a dozen wms installed if you wanted...
[11:54] <ElixirVitae> Hmm.
[11:54] <dr_willis> install lubuntu-desktop package ElixirVitae
[11:54] <ElixirVitae> Am I just overthinking it, supposing changing to a lightweight DE would benefit more?
[11:54] <ElixirVitae> When I boot from liveCD, it takes ~20 seconds to boot
[11:55] <dr_willis> depends on your specs ElixirVitae
[11:55] <dr_willis> i boot to unity in 10sec...
[11:55] <ElixirVitae> But now it in boots nearly twice that, of course given I have many programs at startup...
[11:56] <ElixirVitae> 10 secs sounds nice~
[11:56] <dr_willis> 30 sec boot time dont matter when i gor 30 days+ of uptime
[11:58] <ElixirVitae> Hmm, I have lubuntu-desktop and lubuntu-core in center, I suppose desktop comes with many semi-native programs, no?
[11:58] <ElixirVitae> Is it plausible to have 30+ days uptime with something that is not used as a server?
[11:59] <jrib> ElixirVitae: sure, why not
[12:00] <ElixirVitae> As I saw it it takes less than 20 days for an update to come that necessitates booting.
[12:00] <Kveras> jrib, yes it's probably hardware specific since the two installations should be completely separate from each other. does that mean that I should post a bug towards the motherboard manufacturer?
[12:00] <jrib> Kveras: hmm, I meant just trying a different mouse but that's an interesting theory
[12:08] <|Anthony|> can i safely kill the oneconf-service
[12:09] <maarten> i can not logon to facebook with gwibber
[12:14] <jurij1> hello. i'm on 10.04. is there a way i can update from libssl.so.0.9.8 to libssl.so.1.0.0 ???
[12:16] <wols> jurij1: for what reason?
[12:16] <maarten> i can not logon to facebook with gwibber, can anyone help me
[12:18] <the_dark_knight> Hi, I have a question. I have a php script - client.php . How do I execute it 1000 times. Is there any way like curl / benchmarking. I don't want to create a shell script which will run it a number of times. Is there some tool to do it?
[12:18] <muelli> the_dark_knight: for i in $(seq 1 1000); do foo; done
[12:18] <mmm4m5m> Hi all. Anyone with webcamstudio around? Thanks a lot in advance!!
[12:18] <wols> how does curl benchmark? you need to be more specific
[12:19] <wols> mmm4m5m: ask your real question
[12:20] <magic_al> i have a prob with my internal card reader of my new thinkpad. if i insert a card nothing happens. what can i do?
[12:20] <zetheroo> a friend using Ubuntu 12.04 has found today that the touchpad stopped working ... works in Windows 7 ok ... I have tried several things to get it working again but nothing does it ...
[12:20] <mmm4m5m> wols: I build it from svn. Can't find good docs to dig more into it. Problem is - webcam not shown at all... All video tutorials/demos I saw - after first start, program have webcam source already present... No idea what to do... Their IRC channel is empty
[12:20] <the_dark_knight> muelli: thanks . but Do you know any tool like apache - benchmarking(ab)? ab is merely an example.
[12:21] <muelli> the_dark_knight: probably not. "time" maybe...
[12:22] <Dragonster82> Hello everybody!
[12:22] <the_dark_knight> muelli: time will calculate the execution time. thanks anyway
[12:23] <simplew> a
[12:23] <simplew> why dkms packages are not requiring kernel headers package???
[12:24] <PatrickDickey> simplew, a guess would be that they included the headers in the kernel source package. Which release are you on?
[12:25] <jalexandru> can I crate a centos boot usb using startup disk creator in ubuntu 12.04?
[12:26] <dr_willis> jalexandru:  doubt if that will work. you could 'dd' to image the iso to flash. or use the tools from pendrivelinux website
[12:26] <PatrickDickey> jalexandru, you probably want to use unetbootin for that. I *believe* the startup disk creator just creates a bootable recovery disk for ubuntu. I could be mistaken though.
[12:26] <simplew> PatrickDickey: 12.10, thats simply unbelievable, and thats leads to many newbies not knowing what to do to have things wroking when there are dkms packages involved
[12:27] <jalexandru> dr_willis, PatrickDickey thanks for the alternatives I'll go try ....
[12:27] <PatrickDickey> simplew, the headers are a part of the source if you compile the kernel yourself. So, it's possible that they left them in there. As i said, it's just a guess though.
[12:27] <PatrickDickey> simplew are you on 12.10?
[12:28] <simplew> PatrickDickey: you havent heard what i said, dkms packages need kernel headers, else they dont build, or you dont know what dkms packages are
[12:29] <Guest97163> with recently upgraded 12.04 google chrome,skype are closes automatically what to do
[12:29] <simplew> PatrickDickey: in what channel ubuntu packages use to hang?
[12:30] <dr_willis> Guest97163:  run them from terminal, look for error messages would be step 1
[12:30] <dividedbyone> hi guys!
[12:30] <dividedbyone> major issues!
[12:30] <dividedbyone> someone please help me with this - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1473191&highlight=ubuntu+realtek665+dell+studio
[12:30] <PatrickDickey> simplew, I'm not sure.
[12:31] <IdleOne> simplew: #ubuntu-packaging
[12:31] <wols> mmm4m5m: check if your webcam actually works and if /dev/video0 I think exists, etc. basically: check your kernel first
[12:32] <simplew> IdleOne: thanks
[12:34] <xrfang> how to view detailed description of a package by its name, e.g. apparmor, instead of apparmor-2.8.0-0ubuntu.deb
[12:34] <xrfang> on command line
[12:34] <wols> apt-cache show apparmor
[12:34] <IdleOne> xrfang: apt-cache show package
[12:34] <rvgate> Where are the settings stored for the gmail webapp launcher... it seems to only show notifications when i have my gmail open on a specific (wrong) account... and i cant seem to change it anywhere
[12:34] <dividedbyone> idleone - could you please help me install audio drivers for 12.10 on my dell 1450?
[12:34] <wols> if that doesn't exist, the version number might be part of the name in this case
[12:35] <ElixirVitae> !botsnack
[12:35] <jurij1> hello. i'm on 10.04. is there a way i can update from libssl.so.0.9.8 to libssl.so.1.0.0 ???
[12:35] <xrfang> thanks IdleOne
[12:36] <IdleOne> dividedbyone: the instructions at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1473191&highlight=ubuntu+realtek665+dell+studio seem to be fairly easy to follow
[12:37] <dividedbyone> idleone: yes they are but i get an 'error 1' message
[12:37] <dividedbyone> idleone: when i try to make/compile
[12:38] <simplew> IdleOne: #ubuntu-packaging is an unresponsive channel, what pther ways are athere to coomunicate with packagers so that this dkms severe problem can be fixed
[12:38] <Tom76> Hello I am trying to install wifi drivers for my HP Mini 110-1030NR but i have no LAN connection so im doing it from my other laptop with wifi and a flash drive
[12:38] <IdleOne> simplew: submit a bug using ubuntu-bug package-name
[12:38] <dividedbyone> idleone: a part of the message is make[1]: Entering directory `/home/arjun/Downloads/realtek-linux-audiopack-5.15/alsa-driver-1.0.23/acore'
[12:38] <dividedbyone> gcc -D__KERNEL__ -DMODULE=1 -I/home/arjun/Downloads/realtek-linux-audiopack-5.15/alsa-driver-1.0.23/include  -I/lib/modules/3.5.0-17-generic/build/include -I/lib/modules/3.5.0-17-generic/build/arch/x86/include -O2 -mno-red-zone -mcmodel=kernel -fno-reorder-blocks -fno-strength-reduce -finline-limit=2000 -Wdeclaration-after-statement -Wno-pointer-sign -D__SMP__ -DCONFIG_SMP -DLINUX -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -fomit-frame-pointer -Wno-trigraphs -O2 -
[12:38] <dividedbyone> fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -pipe -DALSA_BUILD -nostdinc -iwithprefix include -DMODVERSIONS -include /lib/modules/3.5.0-17-generic/build/include/linux/modversions.h  -DKBUILD_BASENAME=memory_wrapper   -c -o memory_wrapper.o memory_wrapper.c
[12:38] <FloodBot1> dividedbyone: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:38] <kingshish> whats cracking
[12:38] <Pici> kingshish: offtopic for this channel.
[12:38] <IdleOne> dividedbyone: did you install the "patch" package?
[12:39] <PatrickDickey> simplew sorry I had to restart Quassel. ubuntu-packaging is where they hang out.
[12:39] <cfhowlett> Tom76: is that the broadcom 43** chipset for the wifi
[12:39] <Tom76> Hello I am trying to install wifi drivers for my HP Mini 110-1030NR but i have no LAN connection so im doing it from my other laptop with wifi and a flash drive. im trying to run the command 'dpkg -i firmware-b43-lpphy-install' but its trying to fetch the firmware from online but i already have it downoaded, how do i make it use the already downloaded package?
[12:39] <simplew> IdleOne: that is done using any tool or ubuntu web site?
[12:39] <dividedbyone> yes that seems to have been already installed...
[12:39] <min|dvir|us> Hi. I can't play MIDI files via Totem... Any thoughts? I get "The playback of this movie requires a audio/midi decoder plugin which is not installed."
[12:39] <dividedbyone> i am running ubuntu 12.10
[12:39] <Tom76> cfhowlett, yes
[12:39] <fliip> What would be the best channel to ask about automata?
[12:39] <Pici> fliip: ##programming ? ##math ? or ask alis, /msg alis help list
[12:39] <IdleOne> simplew: the command "ubuntu-bug" can be done via terminal or you can go to launchpad.net and submit a bug via web interface
[12:40] <fliip> ok cheers! =)
[12:40] <kingshish> there are a million conversation hapening here, how'd you guys keep track
[12:40] <simplew> IdleOne: thaks for the help
[12:40] <IdleOne> simplew: welcome
[12:40] <cfhowlett> !who|kingshish:
[12:40] <IdleOne> dividedbyone: I am not sure, perhaps post on that forum thread and ask, make sure to paste the exact error you are getting.
[12:41] <kingshish> !ubottu ok
[12:41] <rvgate> Where are the settings stored for the gmail webapp launcher... it seems to only show notifications when i have my gmail open on a specific (wrong) account... and i cant seem to change it anywhere
[12:42]  * PatrickDickey really needs to read my manual. Didn't even know that I could connect my gmail or facebook accounts up...
[12:42] <robb4n> Hi, just installed ubuntu server.. wanna add a repo, so i did run apt-get install python-software-properties.. but now when i try to add-apt-repository ppa it says command not found?
[12:42] <Tom76> cfhowlett, any ideas?
[12:43] <Tom76> http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#Ubuntu.2FDebian
[12:43] <Tom76> i have no way to get to get an internet connection on it
[12:43] <PatrickDickey> robb4n apt-add-repository not add-apt-repository
[12:43] <robb4n> PatrickDickey: oh :)
[12:43]  * PatrickDickey has done that himself a few times...
[12:43] <cfhowlett> Tom76: I thought it might be a repo source issue, but for a package you've already DL'd and are dpkg'ng?  IDK
[12:43] <derk> jes
[12:44] <nydel> hello all
[12:44] <cfhowlett> Tom76: ask the channel again at intervals
[12:44] <cfhowlett> nydel: greetings
[12:44] <thesadmafioso> Hi I am having trouble running a binary file
[12:44] <Tom76> im trying to run the command 'dpkg -i firmware-b43-lpphy-install' but its trying to fetch the firmware from online but i already have it downoaded, how do i make it use the already downloaded package?
[12:44] <nydel> cfhowlett: how goes it
[12:44] <robb4n> PatrickDickey: that command doesnt work ether :/
[12:44] <Tom76> You will be asked to automatically fetch and install the firmware into the right location. Again, you will need an internet connection.
[12:44] <cfhowlett> nydel: what's the issue, man.
[12:44] <nydel> thesadmafioso: can you be more specific? how do you try to run the binary & what happens?
[12:44] <Tom76> i dont have an internet connection :/
[12:45] <nydel> cfhowlett: here to serve
[12:45] <nydel> cfhowlett: but thanks
[12:45] <PatrickDickey> robb4n does it still say not found?
[12:45] <Tom76> i have this laptop though why cant i just download the firmware and install it on the other laptop
[12:45] <thesadmafioso> i checked the file with "ls -l" and it shows it's executable, but when I use "./filename" it says it cannot execute
[12:45] <robb4n> PatrickDickey: yes
[12:45] <cfhowlett> nydel: maybe you can help Tom76.  DL'd a package and attempted to dpkg but the darn thing keeps trying to DL again.
[12:46] <nydel> thesadmafioso: are you sure it is a binary file? try ". filename" if you are in the correct directory
[12:46] <thesadmafioso> ok I will try and report that
[12:46] <nydel> thesadmafioso: if that does not work please tell me the error
[12:46] <Tom76> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#b43_-_No_Internet_access
[12:46] <PatrickDickey> robb4n paste the exact command that you're typing in here.
[12:47] <thesadmafioso> nydel, here's the output: bash: .: LATEST-IS-2.98: cannot execute binary file
[12:47] <robb4n> PatrickDickey: sudo apt-add-repository ppa:slicer
[12:48] <dr_willis> thesadmafioso:   what does 'file thatfilename'  say about it
[12:48] <nydel> thesadmafioso: what dr_willis said, also could you just tell me what the file is
[12:49] <thesadmafioso> Output of "file" is :LATEST-IS-2.98: xz compressed data
[12:49] <thesadmafioso> It's the newest Rhythmbox release
[12:49] <thesadmafioso> I was trying to update since what came with 10.04 is really old
[12:49] <simplew> IdleOne: how can i list requires of a package, i never runned a debian based dsitro, so im new to this stuff
[12:49] <Tom76> its not in there :/
[12:49] <thesadmafioso> I got it from GNOME FTP server
[12:50] <cfhowlett> thesadmafioso: try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:50] <IdleOne> simplew: install the rdepends package
[12:50] <thesadmafioso> won't dist-upgrade actually upgrade my ubuntu distro?
[12:50] <thesadmafioso> I'm not sure I want to do that.
[12:50] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[12:50] <dr_willis> i wonder if thats a missnamed source archive
[12:50] <Pici> thesadmafioso: no
[12:50] <Pici> !dist-upgrade | thesadmafioso
[12:50] <simplew> IdleOne: hu? isnt there a coomand to list dependencies of packages?
[12:51] <thesadmafioso> Ok I get confused about update vs upgrade
[12:51] <thesadmafioso> I try real hard guys
[12:51] <thesadmafioso> I really do
[12:51] <thesadmafioso> :)
[12:51] <IdleOne> simplew: sorry the package name is apt-rdepends
[12:51] <nydel> thesadmafioso: did you try adding the rhythmbox ppa & apt-getting the latest build? or do you really wanna build it yourself
[12:51] <cfhowlett> thesadmafioso: dist-release would upgrade the distribution to the latest release.  fyi.
[12:51] <PatrickDickey> robb4n are you using the steps from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/CommandLine by chance?
[12:51] <BluesKaj> !upgrade | thesadmafioso
[12:51] <IdleOne> simplew: that package will list any dependencies for a specific package
[12:51] <Pici> IdleOne: that does recursive rdepends, apt-cache rdepends will show one 'layer' of them.
[12:52] <robb4n> PatrickDickey: nope
[12:52] <simplew> IdleOne: will list how, where?
[12:52] <thesadmafioso> nydel I don't know how to add rhythmbox ppa
[12:52] <IdleOne> Pici: I'm not sure I understand, could you explain more to both myself and simplew please
[12:52] <PatrickDickey> robb4n did you get any errors when installing python-software-properties?
[12:53] <thesadmafioso> I tried building it myself and had awful results
[12:53] <robb4n> PatrickDickey: no error at all :/
[12:53] <dr_willis> !ppa | thesadmafioso
[12:53] <nydel> thesadmafioso: https://launchpad.net/~m-buck/+archive/rhythmbox
[12:53] <Tom76> where is  System > Administration > Hardware/Additional Drivers on Lubuntu?
[12:53] <nydel> thesadmafioso: write this in terminal: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:m-buck/rhythmbox
[12:53] <PatrickDickey> !addppa | thesadmafioso
[12:54] <Pici> simplew, IdleOne: apt-cache rdepends packagename  will list all the reverse dependencies of a package, but will not list the reverse dependencies of those packages.  apt-rdepends will 'walk' the reverse dependencies and list all of the reverse dependcies of all the packages, it will be a very long list.
[12:54] <nydel> thesadmafioso: then do sudo apt-get update & sudo apt-get install rhythmbox
[12:54] <nydel> thesadmafioso: do you follow what i'm saying?
[12:54] <thesadmafioso> yes
[12:54] <Pici> simplew, IdleOne: If you're looking to install something offline, you're probably looking for the dependencies anyway, not reverse depends.
[12:54] <thesadmafioso> I understand that it's a third party repository to add for apt-get to look in the right place for newest rhythmbox
[12:55] <thesadmafioso> right?
[12:56] <PatrickDickey> robb4n were you getting the file not found error before doing the install python-software-properties command?
[12:56] <robb4n> PatrickDickey: after and before doing it
[12:56] <IdleOne> Pici: ah, I see now. Thanks for explaining. So, how does one list the dependencies of a package?
[12:56] <simplew> IdleOne: for example in rpm distros to check requires we do: rpm -q --requires foo
[12:56] <thesadmafioso> nydel: I pasted that command and it fetched gpg keys, was that right?
[12:57] <Pici> IdleOne: apt-cache depends packagename
[12:57] <IdleOne> simplew: ^
[12:57] <IdleOne> Pici: thanks again
[12:57] <PatrickDickey> robb4n try this whereis apt-add-repository
[12:58] <simplew> Pici: that lists all dependencies, isnt there a way to just list requires?
[12:58] <nydel> thesadmafioso: yes that's right. now when you do "sudo apt-get update" it will get the latest rhythmbox.
[12:58] <Tom76> got it cfhowlett thanks
[12:58] <nydel> thesadmafioso: after you do the update, do "sudo apt-get install rhythmbox" and see if it gets a newer version
[12:59] <IdleOne> simplew: depends are requires
[12:59] <nydel> thesadmafioso: if it doesn't, tell me & i'll find the correct package name
[12:59] <thesadmafioso> nydel: If it's not a bother could you explain why it fetched a gpg key and why I am not seeing it in my "gpg --list-keys"
[12:59] <simplew> IdleOne: no, depends include all, requires, provides, suggests
[12:59] <thesadmafioso> I realize I'm probably a pain
[13:00] <nydel> thesadmafioso: are you root?
[13:00] <PatrickDickey> thesadmafioso the gpg key is required to authenticate packages. As for why it's not listed in your keys, I'm not sure. I believe it's probably in root's gpg keys.
[13:00] <nydel> what PatrickDickey said.
[13:00] <thesadmafioso> didn't execute "gpg --list-keys" as root, no
[13:00] <Pici> simplew: apt-cache -i depends packagename will only list the depends and predepends, not concflicts/suggests/recommends
[13:01] <thesadmafioso> Thx PatrickDickey
[13:01] <PatrickDickey> thesadmafioso, no problem.
[13:01] <simplew> Pici: that way does not list requires
[13:01] <nydel> thesadmafioso: your personal keys are in ~/.gnupg/gpg.conf & i assume it's blank.
[13:01] <thesadmafioso> nydel: it gave me the same output as before with "sudo apt-get install rhythmbox"
[13:01] <IdleOne> simplew: or apt-cache depends packagename | grep Depends
[13:01] <Pici> simplew: what package are you trying to get information about?
[13:01] <nydel> PatrickDickey: where is the master pgp key file?
[13:01] <PatrickDickey> robb4n, did whereis apt-add-repository show anything?
[13:01] <nydel> *gpg
[13:01] <malay> Hello all !!!!
[13:02] <thesadmafioso> nydel: nope, I use PGP encryption for emailing so I've got keys
[13:02] <PatrickDickey> nydel, I'm not sure. I've never really dug into it that far to find out.
[13:02] <simplew> Pici:  that irrelevant, but IdleOne  suggested a grep, its a way, but i thought there was a way to get requires lsited directly
[13:02] <nydel> thesadmafioso: what output exactly do you get from "sudo apt-get install rhythmbox"
[13:02] <[twisti]> hello, i have a question: when i did apt-get install logwatch, i got this message:
[13:02] <[twisti]> Suggested packages:
[13:02] <[twisti]>   fortune-mod
[13:02] <thesadmafioso> be right back
[13:02] <[twisti]> this isnt the first time i saw that 'suggested' thing too
[13:02] <[twisti]> but how do i find out more ?
[13:03] <[twisti]> trying to put the name on google just gives things like file lists or package size
[13:03] <[twisti]> but how do i learn what that ACTUALLY IS and why it was suggested ?
[13:03] <BluesKaj> !suggested
[13:03] <nydel> [twisti]: why not browse the source code of the application you're installing?
[13:03] <IdleOne> simplew: the -i like Pici suggested and the grep that I suggested list the same Depends, which unless I am mistaken are equivalent to requires in rpm distros
[13:03] <wols> it was suggested cause the maintainer thinks it's a good idea. and it's just a package, like any other
[13:04] <[twisti]> nydel: is that a joke ?
[13:04] <[twisti]> you think im going to learn a new programming language and randomly read through source to find out what a piece of software does ?
[13:04] <nydel> [twisti]: no, sorry. it sounds like you want to learn & you're not quite sure /what/ you want to learn, right?
[13:04] <notso188> Came from #ubuntustudio but no response. How do I get the Hibernate function back? It is grayed out.
[13:04] <[twisti]> no, im very sure: i want to learn what that package is
[13:04] <Pici> simplew: There isn't a 'Required' listing in dpkg, are you looking for things that have "Priority: Required"?
[13:04] <nydel> [twisti]: oh i'm sorry i thought you were asking about how to just keep learning
[13:05] <llutz> [twisti]: apt-cache show <packagename>           gives you more info on that package, but not a reason why it was suggested
[13:05] <[twisti]> theres no way there arent descriptions somewhere
[13:05] <nydel> [twisti]: usually the search string "ubuntu package "name"" will bring you a page with descriptions
[13:05] <nydel> [twisti]: let me see about that particular package
[13:05] <[twisti]> yeah, i got this
[13:05] <[twisti]> http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/fortune-mod
[13:05] <[twisti]> but thats not really helpful to people who dont know what it is
[13:05] <dr_willis> !info fortune-mod
[13:05] <[twisti]> thanks
[13:06] <nydel> yes [twisti] see here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fortune-mod
[13:06] <[twisti]> and thank llutz too
[13:06] <Pici> [twisti]: 'Suggests' are are a listing on a package which are not required to be installed for the program to run, but might be helpful.
[13:06] <dr_willis> gotta love fortune cokies
[13:06] <nydel> [twisti]: most of the ubuntu packages that will be suggested will have a page on launchpad. from there you can view the readme or source etc & find what a package does / is for etc.
[13:06] <nydel> i hope that helps
[13:07] <[twisti]> well, that in particular doesnt seem like a terribly useful thing to install ;) i have seen things recommended before that i knew by name and sometimes followed suggestions, i was really just looking for what llutz suggested
[13:07] <thesadmafioso> nydel: I have returned
[13:07] <Pici> [twisti]: logwatch, for example, has a module that will insert a random quote at the end of the emailed log. Clearly, its not required for it to function, but you might want to install fortune-mod if you want that feature.
[13:07] <designbybeck> is it best to put your fonts in /home/username/.fonts or /usr/share/fonts ?
[13:07] <thesadmafioso> nydel: output of "sudo apt-get install rhythmbox" is lengthy, should I put it up on screen or PM you with it maybe?
[13:07] <designbybeck> or where is the best place to put fonts!?
[13:08] <[twisti]> Pici: i think ill opt to go without it ;)
[13:08] <nydel> thesadmafioso: use http://pastebin.ubuntu.com please
[13:08] <[twisti]> but thanks for the help, everyone
[13:08] <thesadmafioso> ok will do that
[13:08] <Brianking> hiiiiiiiiiii
[13:08] <jrib> designbybeck: /usr/share/fonts/ is system-wide (every user) and /home/username/.fonts is just for your user
[13:08] <brontosaurusrex> designbybeck: the ones in your home map are only for you, the ones in /usr should be system wide < all users
[13:09] <designbybeck> ok thank you jrib and brontosaurusrex
[13:09] <thesadmafioso> nydel: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1300013/
[13:10] <nydel> thanks thesadmafioso
[13:10] <alone> hello all
[13:10] <thesadmafioso> hi
[13:10] <Kvaks> If I have an LVM group within which I have logical volumes for / and /home, will the installation process of Ubuntu detect the LVM and easily let me keep the /home intact like I could if it was a traditional partition?
[13:10] <PatrickDickey> hi alone
[13:11] <cfhowlett> alone: greetings
[13:11] <islandmonkey> Hello alone
[13:11] <nydel> thesadmafioso: type "sudo apt-get install rhythmbox" & press tab twice
[13:11] <cfhowlett> islandmonkey: greetings
[13:12] <osse> Hi, I'm running Ubuntu Server 12.04. Currently my eth0 only has a static IPv6 adress and IPv4 is disabled. Can I re-enable IPv6 and receive an IP from DHCP without rebooting or temporarily disable eth0 ?
[13:12] <nydel> thesadmafioso: you will see many different options. i will try to figure out which one is the newest build. what version is installed? and what version are you trying to build?
[13:12] <osse> Re-enable IPv4 I mean
[13:12] <PatrickDickey> alone, is there something we can help you with?
[13:12] <smartboyhw> Hi guys after install python-sip it removed python-qt4 and it says The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[13:12] <smartboyhw>  python-qt4 : Depends: sip-api-8.1 but it is not installable
[13:12] <smartboyhw>  but then if python-sip includes the virtual package then it should be installable. Someone help
[13:13] <thesadmafioso> There is no version installed and I am trying to build/install 2.98
[13:13] <alone> PatrickDickey: no, just "hi" :)
[13:13] <PatrickDickey> nydel would dpkg -l | grep rhythmbox help him to find out what's installed?
[13:13] <jrib> smartboyhw: 1) what ubuntu version? 2) Have you installed any unofficial packages or enabled any unofficial repositories?
[13:13] <smartboyhw> jrib, 1) 12.10 2) I don't know
[13:14] <jrib> smartboyhw: I don't understand how you can not know
[13:14] <nydel> PatrickDickey: i think so. i've some things to learn about dpkg
[13:14] <thesadmafioso> PatrickDickey: I tried the grep lookup for dpkg, nothing comes up. No install :)
[13:14] <lasher> I cannot see a theme menu in Empathy ubuntu 12.10. Is it no longer possible to change?
[13:14] <whatwhat> how to installl file with bin.sh
[13:14] <jrib> smartboyhw: pastebin the output of « apt-cache policy python-qt4 python-sip sip-api-8.1
[13:14] <smartboyhw> jrib: I don't think so, if it is about python-sip and python-qt4
[13:14] <whatwhat> what's the commmmand line
[13:15] <jrib> smartboyhw: it's about any package
[13:15] <nydel> PatrickDickey: when we try to install rhythmbox, we're told the package is obsolete..
[13:15] <nydel> thesadmafioso: i think this might install rhythmbox: "sudo apt-get install rhythmbox-plugin-coherence"
[13:15] <PatrickDickey> whatwhat the command line is the terminal or if you press CTRL + ALT + F1 through F6, the screen.
[13:15] <smartboyhw> jrib, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1300036/
[13:15] <PatrickDickey> whatwhat try this. CTRL key + Alt key + T (all at the same time).
[13:16] <jrib> smartboyhw: umm, "raring"?
[13:16] <smartboyhw> jrib, well yes I enabled the raring repos
[13:16] <whatwhat> so tat's why u are a dickey ?
[13:16] <whatwhat> lol
[13:16] <jrib> smartboyhw: ok... why?
[13:16] <thesadmafioso> nydel: tried that also, it says I have broken packages and dependencies aren't met
[13:16] <smartboyhw> But then I think I can still get python-qt4 and python-sip from there
[13:16] <PatrickDickey> lol nope. just good genetics. ;-)
[13:16] <smartboyhw> jrib, er...for fun:P
[13:16] <thesadmafioso> nydel: i will pastebin output
[13:16] <jrib> smartboyhw: raring is bound to be really broken at this stage
[13:16] <nydel> thesadmafioso: pas....good, i was gonna ask :)
[13:17] <jrib> smartboyhw: anyway, it's not supported here
[13:17] <smartboyhw> jrib, yyeah
[13:18] <thesadmafioso> nydel: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1300040/
[13:18]  * PatrickDickey doesn't like dogfood enough to enable raring on my only system within 7 days after Quantal is released...
[13:18] <alone> Unable to read from: TakPic/takpic.sh
[13:18] <nydel> thesadmafioso: does "which rhythmbox" give you blank output?
[13:18] <alone> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1300045/
[13:18] <alone> if interessed :^
[13:18] <BlackNarcissus> Hello everyone. Anyone else using jabber.org for XMPP messaging with empathy on Ubuntu 12.04 is having a certificate expired warning when logging in ?
[13:18] <thesadmafioso> nydel: you mean the pressing tab 2 times thing?
[13:19] <thesadmafioso> nydel: it ouputs this: rhythmbox                        rhythmbox-dbg                    rhythmbox-radio-browser
[13:19] <thesadmafioso> rhythmbox-applet                 rhythmbox-plugin-coherence       rhythmbox-ubuntuone-music-store
[13:19] <PatrickDickey> BlackNarcissus I'm not using jabber, but I'd imagine they'll be updating their certificate shortly.
[13:20] <nydel> thesadmafioso: no, i mean "which rhythmbox"
[13:20] <thesadmafioso> nydel: it returns nothing
[13:21] <freijon> is there a channel for the Gnome Remix?
[13:21] <BlackNarcissus> PatrickDickey: Yes, but I wonder if it's not a bug with empathy, it has a history of messing up with certificate, and jabber.org hasn't notified any certificate updates. Thanks :)
[13:22] <PatrickDickey> freijon, you could try #ubuntu-gnome It's the channel for Ubuntu GNOME Help.
[13:22] <freijon> thanks PatrickDickey
[13:22] <PatrickDickey> freijon, no problem.
[13:22] <nydel> thesadmafioso: okay, i think we /do/ have to build it from scratch!
[13:22] <thesadmafioso> nydel: this is what I am afraid of
[13:22] <nydel> thesadmafioso: are you using the tar.xz from http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/rhythmbox/2.98/
[13:23] <thesadmafioso> nydel: yes, I have that file and have verified the checksum on it
[13:23] <PatrickDickey> BlackNarcissus no problem, and sorry for not replying sooner.
[13:24] <thesadmafioso> nydel: i tried to install it once before
[13:24] <designbybeck> Was glad to see they left F3-SplitScreen in the file browser in 12.10!! I use that a lot!
[13:24] <thesadmafioso> nydel: from scratch but it did not work out
[13:24] <nydel> thesadmafioso: okay i'm going to try installing it too, would you like to do it at the same time?
[13:24] <thesadmafioso> nydel: you are the best, and yes
[13:25] <nydel> thesadmafioso: you've extracted it, yes?
[13:25] <thesadmafioso> nydel: no, I used shred to decimate everything in a fit of rage
[13:25] <thesadmafioso> nydel: :)
[13:25] <nydel> thesadmafioso: haha wonderful
[13:26] <thesadmafioso> nydel: will extract it now to the folder it's in
[13:26] <thesadmafioso> nydel: i created a seperate folder for it
[13:28] <nydel> thesadmafioso: do sudo apt-get install gobject-introspection, if you haven't already
[13:28] <thesadmafioso> nydel: I will want to use "tar xvzf filename.tar.xz" right?
[13:28] <thesadmafioso> nydel: ok but what is that
[13:28]  * PatrickDickey needs to find a new graphics card. This ATI Radeon HD 2450 isn't going to be suported apparently.
[13:28] <xMopxShell> Hi guys, I just installed & updated 12.10. After i installed nvidia-current and nvidia-settings, unity is gone and im stuck at 640x480. can anyone help?
[13:28] <nydel> thesadmafioso: use tar Jxf for a tar.xf
[13:28] <Eagleman> How do i point this address to the local machine?  (  http://hgg-fs/software/wiki/MileStone/changelog.xml )
[13:29] <nydel> thesadmafioso: that will install a few packages that rhythmbox depends on
[13:30] <thesadmafioso> nydel: it is giving me problems with "sudo apt-get install gobject-introspection"
[13:30] <thesadmafioso> says the same thing about no installation cantidate
[13:30] <nydel> the packages are: python-markupsafe, python-mako & gobject-introspection
[13:30] <KaKila1> no menus in libreoffice and 12.10. Any help?
[13:30] <nydel> thesadmafioso: you are running 12.10?
[13:30] <thesadmafioso> nydel: "No installation candidate" excuse me
[13:30] <xangua> KaKila1: they are in the panel
[13:30] <PatrickDickey> Eagleman do you have a static IP Address or a dynamic one from your ISP?
[13:30] <thesadmafioso> nydel: no, I am running 10.04 LTS
[13:30] <KaKila1> xangua: what do you mena in the panel?
[13:31] <Eagleman> PatrickDickey its in a LAN running inside its own vmware dhcp pool
[13:31] <Eagleman> So its dynamic
[13:31] <xangua> KaKila1: the panel at the top... the top panel
[13:31] <nydel> thesadmafioso: oh! i did not understand that. hmm. we can try something a little crazy
[13:31] <KaKila1> xangua: I may not understand you, but no. They aren't anywhere.
[13:31] <PatrickDickey> Eagleman are you only wanting to redirect it inside of your lan, or do you want people outside to get to it?
[13:31] <thesadmafioso> nydel: at this point I just want to listen to the new Godspeed You! Black Emperor record and will do any crazy thing to get that accomplished
[13:32] <thesadmafioso> nydel: seriously.
[13:32] <nydel> thesadmafioso: i would recommend an alternative media player such as clementine
[13:32] <Eagleman> PatrickDickey the server itself needs to know that http://hgg-fs/ is its own machine
[13:32] <nydel> thesadmafioso: do you /need/ to use rhythmbox?
[13:33] <PatrickDickey> Eagleman, that sounds like a question for an apache help room (at least to me).
[13:33] <thesadmafioso> nydel: well I have a lot several podcasts I keep up with
[13:33] <thesadmafioso> nydel: but other than that, no not really.
[13:33] <PatrickDickey> thesadmafioso is there any reason you can't use banshee? (just throwing out an alternative)
[13:33] <nydel> thesadmafioso: i would try installing clementine & see if you like it. i /adore/ it. and you'll be able to use your podcasts etc with it.
[13:33] <thesadmafioso> PatrickDickey: not that I know of
[13:34] <Eagleman> PatrickDickey its dns related
[13:34] <nydel> thesadmafioso: also remember if you are playing mp3s you can always use mpg123 from the command line.
[13:34] <thesadmafioso> Ok I guess I'll give that a go
[13:34] <thesadmafioso> nydel: i had no idea about any such command
[13:34] <nydel> thesadmafioso: "mpg123 filename &"
[13:34] <nydel> try that?
[13:35] <KaKila1> xangua: http://picpaste.com/pics/libreoffice-v5aHCj2J.1350999302.png
[13:35] <KaKila1> xangua: that is with the mouse pointer over the "top panel"
[13:36] <PatrickDickey> Eagleman hostname hgg-fs maybe? And then add it to /etc/hosts as 127.0.0.1.
[13:36] <poglesbyg> I'm trying to install gecko for wine. could I get some help?
[13:36] <thesadmafioso> nydel: that mpg123 filename & killed my terminal
[13:36] <thesadmafioso> nydel: haha
[13:37] <nydel> lol did it now
[13:37] <Eagleman> How do i point this address to the local machine?  (  http://hgg-fs/software/wiki/MileStone/changelog.xml )
[13:37] <nydel> thesadmafioso: are you getting sound from other programs?
[13:37] <thesadmafioso> nydel: so, could you possibly explain in a nutshell what you think is going on with Rhythmbox?
[13:37] <thesadmafioso> nydel: it sure did lol
[13:38] <thesadmafioso> nydel: yes
[13:38] <nydel> thesadmafioso: well you're running an outdated release of ubuntu, & rhythmbox depends on a lot of packages you do not have installed. you'd have to go through & install all of its dependencies, perhaps one-by-one, in order to use it.
[13:38] <xangua> KaKila1: tried to delete libreoffice configuration¿ (.config hidden directory in your home
[13:38] <cnf> hmm, if only i could get side swipe to switch desktops now
[13:38] <PatrickDickey> Eagleman when you type hostname into the server, what does it say?
[13:39] <nydel> thesadmafioso: can you open a file manager to your music folder?
[13:39] <Eagleman> hgg-fs-new
[13:39] <flooble77> I've just finished upgrading to 12.10 and can't now set display resolution to the correct native res for my laptop, only up to 1152x864
[13:39] <PatrickDickey> Eagleman, do you have another server that has hgg-fs for it's hostname?
[13:40] <Eagleman> yes but this is in another network so it should be hgg-fs
[13:40] <PatrickDickey> Eagleman hostname hgg-fs
[13:40] <thesadmafioso> what are the benefits of upgrading to the new 12.10 release as opposed to staying with an old distro like 10.04
[13:40] <erictr1ck> after i upgraded to 12.10, i get the following error when using vinagre: Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[13:41] <PatrickDickey> Eagleman if they're on the same subnet, you'll have problems. And if you're trying to connect from the subnet that has the other hgg-fs server in it, you'll end up there instead.
[13:41] <thesadmafioso> nydel: yes I'm looking at my music now
[13:41] <PatrickDickey> thesadmafioso, mainly the support factor. I'm not sure if they'll still provide updates for 10.04 (or how long they'll provide them).
[13:41] <nydel> thesadmafioso: aside from the advancements across the board, you'll have so much less trouble doing anything
[13:42] <Eagleman> they'r on the 172.16 address
[13:42] <Eagleman> i am on the 192.168 network which is not in use
[13:42] <nydel> PatrickDickey said what i meant much better, thesadmafioso
[13:42] <nydel> thesadmafioso: right-click an mp3, see if there are any programs installed that will open it?
[13:42] <nydel> PatrickDickey: when did unity show up?
[13:42] <thesadmafioso> PatrickDickey: Yeah that's been on my mind a bit
[13:42] <PatrickDickey> Eagleman, if they are on the same subnet (255.255.0.0 for example), then you can't have them both be named the same.
[13:42] <PatrickDickey> nydel 11.04? 11.10 for sure.
[13:43] <Eagleman> they'r not
[13:43] <thesadmafioso> nydel: i did notice the new kernel builds are supporting more ARM architecture
[13:43] <thesadmafioso> nydel: so the new distros I guess would have more support for newer stuff . . . "Advancements" as you say
[13:44] <thesadmafioso> nydel: I hate the unity desktop thing
[13:44] <thesadmafioso> nydel: hate it so much
[13:44] <nydel> thesadmafioso: well, we're all working on 12.10/quantal. not that "it's the status quo" is an argument in itself, but, the operating system is overall quicker, better, in many ways
[13:44] <PatrickDickey> Eagleman, the easiest way (to me at least) is this. hostname hgg-fs on the server you want it to point to. Then in your /etc/hosts on the local computer, put it's IP address in with that name. The drawback is that you'll have to do that on every computer that you want to access it from.
[13:44] <thesadmafioso> seething hatred for that thing.
[13:44] <nydel> thesadmafioso: i hate unity too. i'm sorry to say that here, but i hate unity.
[13:44] <worm> Got a strange problem on kubuntu. After I finished installed ubuntu 12.10, I installed kubuntu-netbook by using apt-get. After reboot, I found every window opened are in KDE style. What's up to my computer?
[13:44] <nydel> thesadmafioso: i use cinnamon instead. technically, we do not support cinnamon. but i will tell you how to set it up if you like.
[13:45] <Eagleman> PatrickDickey its just for testing
[13:45] <thesadmafioso> sorry nydel, I cannot hear you as I am currently blinded by my seething hatred for unity
[13:45] <thesadmafioso> :)
[13:45] <flooble77> i'm not sure if this is likely to be a driver thing, an xorg.conf thing or what; has this bitten anyone else?
[13:45] <PatrickDickey> thesadmafioso, you can get the Gnome shell on 12.10 or Xfce or another desktop.
[13:45] <thesadmafioso> or perhaps rendered deaf is a better description . . .
[13:45] <nydel> thesadmafioso: lol i TOTALLY hear you.
[13:45] <nydel> thesadmafioso: take a look at this: http://cinnamon.linuxmint.com/
[13:46] <nydel> thesadmafioso: i almost quit ubuntu when unity came out. but cinnamon saved me.
[13:46]  * PatrickDickey likes cinnamon... of course I like unity also. :S
[13:46] <abdelghani> I used ''miro '' to download some music, where can I find the downloaded files?
[13:46] <PatrickDickey> flooble77, what is it doing? And what kind of graphics card do you have?
[13:46]  * nydel doesn't really HATE unity, is more worried it's turning users off.
[13:47] <michealPW> Does anybody know where the user faces/icons/avatars are stored in Ubuntu 12.04? (The actual file locations on the local disk, not the utility to change it)
[13:47] <KaKila1> xangua: yeah, no results
[13:47] <flooble77> PatrickDickey: I can't see the native resolution in setting or via xrandr, only up to 1152x864; there was no problem before i upgraded to 12.10
[13:47] <cnf> if i could get some decent gesture support, i would be more lenient towards unity
[13:48] <thesadmafioso> nydel: the only program to play mp3 is VLC, nothing else
[13:48] <Fedora17> hi, any speak spaniish¿
[13:48] <PatrickDickey> michealPW it should be in /home/username/.face
[13:48] <nydel> michaelni: does this help: http://askubuntu.com/questions/61637/where-is-the-users-profile-picture-stored-in-gnome-3
[13:48] <flooble77> PatrickDickey: it's an ati radeon 4570, but as i say it was working great before upgrading
[13:48] <michealPW> PatrickDickey: That's what everybody tells me and it's the only thing I can find on Google... But ~/.face does not exist :(
[13:48] <nydel> thesadmafioso: VLC makes a fine audio player ime
[13:49] <PatrickDickey> flooble77, ATI hasn't released their latest drivers yet. And from what I understood, it won't cover anything lower than an HD 5000 series. :S I'm in the same boat as you.
[13:49] <nydel> thesadmafioso: is your installation a wubi, by chance?
[13:49] <michealPW> Ah, thanks very much nydel!
[13:49] <sln> HP scanjet 2410 no working correctly in 10.04. Do I need to configure it? Please help
[13:49] <PatrickDickey> michealPW did you try ls -l in your home directory?
[13:49] <nydel> michealPW: yw friend
[13:49] <BluesKaj> nydel, we heqard you the first time about unity , I'm a KDE user , but hate isn't the reason I use it. taste is more like it
[13:49] <thesadmafioso> nydel: originally yes but I am solely a linux user now
[13:49] <fedora17nvidia> hola
[13:49] <PatrickDickey> michealPW sorry ls -la
[13:50] <michealPW> So, now I can make symlinks in the location KDM stores it's avatars and also make symlinks in the location GDM/LightDM stores its avatars. That way I have all the face icons/avatars regardless of the DM I use :P
[13:50] <flooble77> PatrickDickey: oh, i see. i guess i'll try downgrading some stuff :) thanks
[13:50] <michealPW> PatrickDickey: I think that's the old GNOME v2 location, mate. That location does not exist on these newer GNOME 3 systems, it seems.
[13:50] <michealPW> PatrickDickey: They use something called "AccountServices", whatever that is :p
[13:50] <nydel> BluesKaj: i don't mean to badmouth ubuntu by proxy. i am going through proper channels to nominate cinnamon to be included in the next release. i don't want to lose users.
[13:50] <PatrickDickey> flooble77, I ended up doing sudo apt-get purge flgrx to get rid of the problem. I had no panels in unity (had to do it from Xfce).
[13:51] <fedora17nvidia> please what channel speak linux in spanish?
[13:51] <michealPW> nydel: Nah, it will never happen I bet. They [Canonical] will just keep working on Unity.
[13:51] <PatrickDickey> michealPW I have it in my home directory.
[13:51] <fedora17nvidia> i'm a serius probem ;(
[13:51] <nydel> thesadmafioso: well here is something.  in /host/ubuntu/disks is a file "root.disk" -- that's your wubi install.  you could make a copy of it, root.disk.old. COPY not MOVE. then you could upgrade to 12.10, & if you don't like it, you can just move the old root disk back.
[13:51] <nydel> thesadmafioso: no harm done.
[13:51] <michealPW> nydel: They [Canonical] believe Unity is meant to improve user experience from GNOME-Shell; personally I think KDE would be the best heehee :P
[13:51] <abdelghani> I used ''miro '' to download some music, where can I find the downloaded files?
[13:51] <nydel> thesadmafioso: what do you think?
[13:52] <Copernicus2K> HEY
[13:52] <PatrickDickey> fedora17nvidia, un momento por favor.
[13:52] <Copernicus2K> how can i check how many lines in a text file?
[13:52] <BluesKaj> nydel, cinnamon looks interesting ,but I doubt you'll see that on ubuntu
[13:52] <michealPW> PatrickDickey: Hrmm, that's interesting. Maybe I don't understand ~/.face... Maybe that's for what's currently selected as your default? Like.. When you select an avatar, maybe it copies it var /var/wherever into ~/.face
[13:52] <cnf> hmz
[13:52] <cnf> why is it so hard to get gestures working on linux :/
[13:52] <thesadmafioso> ls
[13:52] <thesadmafioso> oops
[13:52] <PatrickDickey> I believe so michealPW
[13:52] <thesadmafioso> nydel: that is an interesting idea
[13:53] <flooble77> Copernicus2K: `wc -l $filename`
[13:53] <nydel> BluesKaj: it's SO good though. one insanely great feature is that it allows you to treat your primary display as a workspace set & your secondary display as a static screen.
[13:53] <michealPW> PatrickDickey: My problem is I swapped out LightDM for KDM.. When I open the "About Me" in KDE, I have no icon selected. When I try to choose one, I only have very limited options, none of the options available in LightDM/GDM.. So what I want to do is symlink all those nice avatars that LightDM/GDM have so they're available in KDM/KDE
[13:53] <fedora17nvidia> ok PatrickDickey, buenas tardes
[13:53] <PatrickDickey> fedora17nvidia #ubuntu-es o #ubuntu-es-cafe o #kubuntu-es o #xubuntu-es o #lubuntu-es
[13:53] <flooble77> PatrickDickey: ok, i'll start with fglrx then. thanks again!
[13:54] <thesadmafioso> nydel: you know, I don't have a /hosts directory
[13:54] <fedora17nvidia> thanks, i'm serius probem in my computer ;)
[13:54] <nydel> thesadmafioso: /host
[13:54] <PatrickDickey> flooble77 no problem. Good luck. I'm looking for a new card myself.
[13:54] <thesadmafioso> nydel: that's what i meant sorry
[13:54] <Myrtti> fedora17nvidia: #fedora-es
[13:54] <nydel> thesadmafioso: but you're using a wubi installation?
[13:55] <thesadmafioso> nydel: i am thinking I actually tried ubuntu with wubi but then wiped the entire thing HDD and installed 10.04 fresh
[13:55] <BluesKaj> nydel, I use large monitor with 8 desktops , a separate desktop for each app
[13:55] <thesadmafioso> nydel: actually now that I think back that's exactly what I did
[13:55] <PatrickDickey> fedora17nvidia esta utile fedora o ubuntu?
[13:55] <thesadmafioso> nydel: no, I started with a wubi dual boot to try out linux and then just went full on Ubuntu haha
[13:55]  * PatrickDickey my Spanish is horrible...
[13:55] <fedora17nvidia> fedora17
[13:55] <worm> Problem on installing kde (kubuntu-desktop). After installed that, all of my windows (both in unity and kde) are shown in KDE style. It is so ugly to have a window with a unity border and a KDE style. Any solution?
[13:56] <thesadmafioso> nydel: it was a long time ago
[13:56] <nydel> BluesKaj: that's kind of awesome. out of curiosity may i ask what your 8 apps are?
[13:56] <nablet> hi, i am on U12.04, use fluxbox and wicd. at random moments my wireless networks stops working and i cant get it back on without rebooting. sudo iwlist scan gives me "failed to read scan data: invalid argument"
[13:56] <PatrickDickey> fedora17nvidia entonces quiere #fedora-es
[13:56] <thesadmafioso> nydel: so, think I'm going to install this clementine
[13:56] <fedora17nvidia> install drivers nvidia and now not iniciating SO
[13:56] <nydel> thesadmafioso: oh, okay. you only have a /host if you're using a wubi install -- then /host is your "C:" or whatever.
[13:56] <nydel> thesadmafioso: try it out, i think you'll like it if you need a good all-around music player.
[13:57] <nydel> thesadmafioso: it should be apt-gettable, just apt-get install clementine i think.
[13:57] <fedora17nvidia> in ubuntu i can put "sudo remove --purgue nvidia" but in fedora...
[13:57] <nydel> is there software center in 10.04 or just synaptic
[13:58] <fedora17nvidia> not as accessible as a terminal
[13:58] <cfhowlett> fedora17nvidia: wrong channel.  No help for fedora here.
[13:58] <PatrickDickey> fedora17nvidia fedora utile yum
[13:58] <nydel> thesadmafioso: i /really/ think you ought to consider an upgrade to 12.10.. i have been using since before unity and it's totally  possible to use the new ubuntu and never, ever use unity.
[13:58] <michealPW> Found it~!
[13:58] <Myrtti> fedora17nvidia: /join #fedora-es
[13:58] <PatrickDickey> cfhowlett, there's no help for him in fedora-es he's already there.
[13:58] <michealPW> It's in /usr/share/pixmaps/faces
[13:59] <michealPW> All the avatars for default Ubuntu
[13:59] <michealPW> hehe
[14:00] <worm> Got a strange problem on kubuntu. After I finished installed ubuntu 12.10, I installed kubuntu-netbook by using apt-get. After reboot, when I get into unity, I found every window opened are in KDE style with a unity border. It is too ugly.  Any solution?
[14:00] <thesadmafioso> nydel: i have one more small question
[14:00] <PatrickDickey> fedora17nvidia su - password entonces yum remove nvidia
[14:00] <jackhill> Hello, how can I tell if someone is logged in graphically? In the past, I used ck-list-sessions and looked to see if there was anything in the x11-display lines (with grep and cut). In 12.10 with lightdm the greeter makes it look like someone is logged in.
[14:00] <jackhill> Do I have to write someting to parse all the output of ck-list-sessions or is there something quick and easy?
[14:00] <BluesKaj> nydel, any 8 apps , usually a browser , konversation , dolphin, systemsettings etc
[14:00] <fedora17nvidia> but, my pc d'ont run
[14:01] <fedora17nvidia> as get to terminal?
[14:01] <michealPW> PatrickDickey: Ah, so that's why.. GDM is what looks in ~/ for a .face and if not found it looks for a ~/.face.icon. If still not found it'll read your gnome config for the location.. So really my question should not be where GDM is storing it, but where Ubuntu's LightDM stores it? :P
[14:01] <PatrickDickey> fedora17nvidia ctrl + alt + F2  keys
[14:01] <thesadmafioso> in the terminal, is there any way to move around when directories have blank spaces in between their names
[14:01] <michealPW> Since by default, Ubuntu doesn't use GDM it uses LightDM hehe!
[14:01] <thesadmafioso> Like: "cd this-directory" works, but "cd this directory" will not work
[14:02] <PatrickDickey> michealPW why were you looking for it anyhow?
[14:02] <SharkMuttleworth> thesadmafioso: You need to quote the text
[14:02] <SharkMuttleworth> thesadmafioso: Also, it's easier to use tab completion than typing the full name anyway
[14:02] <thesadmafioso> SharkMuttleworth ok what is that
[14:02] <michealPW> PatrickDickey: I want to make symbolic links to all these avatars and put the links in the directory KDM looks for avatars. I stopped using LightDM and I use KDM instead (But KDM by default has really ugly icons and there's not many to choose from.)
[14:02] <PatrickDickey> michealPW it probably still uses the Gnome config to find the location, so I'd check that first.
[14:03] <abdelghani> I used ''miro '' to download some music, where can I find the downloaded files?
[14:03] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> Hi all
[14:03] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> Quick question
[14:03] <thesadmafioso> SharkMuttleworth: ok, just figured it out . . . you just helped me out tremendously haha
[14:03] <jgcampbell300> morning
[14:04] <Oprr> I want set firefox how my default browser but when I open a html file rekonq open this file.. I've changed the property for .html file for be open with firefox
[14:04] <nablet> hi, i am on U12.04, use fluxbox and wicd. at random moments my wireless networks stops working and i cant get it back on without rebooting. sudo iwlist scan gives me "failed to read scan data: invalid argument"
[14:04] <PatrickDickey> abdelghani video > options > folders will show you where it's storing them. At least that's what I'm reading.
[14:04] <michealPW> Oprr: Goto System Settings -> Default Applications -> Web Browser: type "firefox" inplace of "rekonq"
[14:04] <Oprr> michealPW, ok
[14:04] <PatrickDickey> Eric_New_Ubuntu, ask and we'll help if we can. ;-)
[14:05] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> Where would I find my thinderbird folder so i can import my accounts from my mac
[14:05] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> I can't believe thunderbird doesn't have an export and import
[14:05] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> it's 2012
[14:05] <nydel> thesadmafioso: "mkdir this\ has\ spaces"
[14:06] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> anyone mind breaking off and helping me?
[14:06] <nydel> Eric_New_Ubuntu: ~/.thunderbird
[14:06] <Oprr> michealPW, thank you! ;)
[14:06] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> Also, i am not an enthusiast, is there a linux distro that doesn't require me to be a sysadmin.  I mean it's fun and all but I suck at it
[14:06] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> Yeah. that doesn't mean anything nydel.  I am sorry i probably look like a total noob
[14:07] <michealPW> Oprr: No problem, mate.
[14:07] <nydel> Eric_New_Ubuntu: i think you'll do /fine/ with ubuntu, & we're here to help :)
[14:07] <blackshirt> Eric_New_Ubuntu:  you can play a deep with them :D
[14:07] <nydel> Eric_New_Ubuntu: open up a terminal. hold control & alt and press "t"
[14:07] <PatrickDickey> Eric_New_Ubuntu they all require you to be a sysAdmin to a point. But I would say the *buntu or fedora ones are probably the easiest to maintain (leaning more towards the *buntu distros).
[14:07] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> yeah, here is the issue
[14:07] <jiffe98> it seems if ubuntu doesn't boot the first time or it reboots in the middle of a boot, grub doesn't automatically choose the default option on the second boot, is there a way to change this?
[14:07] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> I just want to use the graphics interface
[14:07] <michealPW> Eric_New_Ubuntu: Thunderbird does indeed have import/export, btw
[14:08] <nydel> Eric_New_Ubuntu: okay. open your home folder from the bar on the left. do you see it?
[14:08] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> I don't want to open a shell, sudo or any of that bother.
[14:08] <nydel> Eric_New_Ubuntu: okay. we can do this visually
[14:08] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> yes
[14:08] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> Thank you
[14:08] <PatrickDickey> Eric_New_Ubuntu in Nautilus, click on View and then Show Hidden Files. it'll be in your Home directory.
[14:08] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> thank you so much
[14:08] <nydel> Eric_New_Ubuntu: did you open a file manager?
[14:08] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> I can
[14:08] <blackshirt> Eric_New_Ubuntu: you can play with windows :D
[14:09] <nydel> Eric_New_Ubuntu: once you open the file manager, click a folder & press "Ctrl-H" to show hidden files. hidden files have a period at the beginning of their name
[14:09] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> I actually am in data security and used to work for Cisco, but I suck as command line
[14:09] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> I figured
[14:09] <thesadmafioso> nydel: thanks for the help, I am trying out clementine now
[14:09] <michealPW> Eric_New_Ubuntu: Your Home folder (/home/username/) is shortened with the tilde character (~) so when somebody says ~/, they mean /home/username/, your home directory. You asked where Thunderbird's preference folder is, it's in ~/.thunderbird (/home/username/.thunderbird) Note: All files or directories on Linux starting with a period (".") will be hidden. You'll need to unhide hidden files/folders if you're using a file browser to find it :P
[14:09] <nablet> Hi, my wireless network card suddenly stopped working. it works before. any ideas?
[14:09] <thesadmafioso> nydel: have a great day
[14:09] <nydel> thesadmafioso: you're welcome, sorry we couldn't get rhythmbox up, hope you like clementine. be well!
[14:09] <KaKila1> help. no menus in lbreoffcie and ubuntu 12.10.  http://picpaste.com/pics/libreoffice-v5aHCj2J.1350999302.png
[14:10] <thesadmafioso> PatrickDickey: thank you also for your help
[14:10] <nydel> Eric_New_Ubuntu: in your "home" folder there is a folder called ".thunderbird" - tell me when you find it
[14:10] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> Where is te show hidden
[14:10] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> It's not in permissions
[14:10] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> where one would expect to find it. lol
[14:11] <PatrickDickey> thesadmafioso not a problem. Glad you got it worked out.
[14:11] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> Thank god we have you guys though or I would have just uninstalled
[14:11] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> Seriously though man, it's WAY over complicated
[14:11] <PatrickDickey> Eric_New_Ubuntu in the menu, click on View, then Show Hidden Files.
[14:11] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> I can't even find where half the shit is installed
[14:11] <fluitfries> how can i easily get rid of some line endings in a text file?
[14:11] <cnf> hmz, i'm making no headway with touchpad gestures :/
[14:11] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> ok, hold on
[14:12] <jgcampbell300> can anyone point me in the right direction ... i have a project that i so i am thinking of hiring some help on a project I have in mind and im not sure who i can consult with... i am thinking it will involve web data and some form of out put after the data has been anelized
[14:12] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> got it
[14:12] <PatrickDickey> fluffries, are you trying to get rid of the dos style ones?
[14:12] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> thanks
[14:12] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> ok
[14:12] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> brb let me rename like they suggest
[14:12] <PatrickDickey> fluitfries, are you trying to get rid of the dos style ones?
[14:13] <b00b00> Hi
[14:13] <PatrickDickey> hi b00b00
[14:13] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> ok, renamed and moved!
[14:14] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> Done, thank you!
[14:14] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> one more question if I can
[14:14] <PatrickDickey> sure.
[14:14] <PatrickDickey> Ask as many as you need.
[14:14] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> Thunderbird fixed!  Thank you
[14:14] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> I just put ubuntu on a X230 Lenovo
[14:15] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> Anything I need to do for drivers?
[14:15] <jgcampbell300> hmm i have +i can anyone read this ?
[14:15] <b00b00> is anyone here dealing with mono package? where i need to put that var MONO_ENV_OPTIONS? in /etc/init.d/mono-xsp4 script?
[14:15] <nablet> hi, my wireless suddenly stops working. it wont work unless i restart the computer. ahy ideas?
[14:15] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> also, follow up I need to install windows, came from VMWare for the mac is virtualbox the best onn ubuntu?
[14:16] <npws_marc> so i just installed ubuntu 12.04 on my server and i can't get any screen to come up. my kvm is saying it's because it's out of range of it's supported resolution, 1024x768@60Hz. i tried adding nofb to the kernel string within GRUB and that got it to stop complaining about resolution, but then nothing came up on the screen. so i tried different vga= modes, even the smallest one vga=769 (640x480x8)
[14:16] <npws_marc> isn't working
[14:16] <PatrickDickey> Eric_New_Ubuntu if everything's working fine, I wouldn't worry about drivers. As for vmware, virtualbox is pretty good. You might be able to find VMWare for Linux also.
[14:16] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> I can find it but it's $250
[14:16] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> Screw them...that's a bit much for workstation
[14:16] <npws_marc> when using the vga= modes it is still complaining about resolution, how can i get this working? it worked fine on 10.04
[14:17] <nbf> $250 is not a lot for a workstation
[14:17] <PatrickDickey> I'd go with virtualbox then Eric_New_Ubuntu.
[14:17] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> For am emulation program? $250 for a desktop virtualization prg?  I think that's highway robbery.
[14:17] <PatrickDickey> nbf he's talking about VMWare Workstation.
[14:17] <FlyingElvis> does anyone know the ternimal command for installing nvidia drivers, and the command for creating the xorg file for it
[14:17] <fluitfries> how can i easily get rid of some line endings in a text file?
[14:17] <FlyingElvis> i saw it on a webpage somewhere and i cant find that page now
[14:18] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> yes patrick, they want $250 for VMware Desktop
[14:18] <PatrickDickey> fluitfries are you trying to remove DOS style line endings?
[14:18] <npws_marc> fromdos file.txt
[14:18] <fluitfries> PatrickDickey, no, unix
[14:18] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> so, for freeware the virtualbox is the best?
[14:18] <fluitfries> it was manuall wrapped and i want it un-wrapped
[14:18] <PatrickDickey> fluitfries, you can install unix2dos and dos2unix.
[14:18] <fluitfries> aka remove line endings
[14:18] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> Thank you guys, you are awesome and gracious as always
[14:19] <PatrickDickey> ahhh. That's different fluitfries. I'm not sure on that.
[14:19] <fluitfries> on my mac in textmate i could actually do a "find n replace" on the line-endings.  can't seem to do that with any of the text editors i've found
[14:19] <PatrickDickey> npws_marc try nomodset in the kernel string, maybe.
[14:19] <SharkMuttleworth> Eric_New_Ubuntu: I'd use VMWare player over Virtualbox
[14:20] <michealPW> wooOT! I've found it! They're in /usr/share/kde4/apps/kdm/pics/users
[14:20] <PatrickDickey> SharkMuttleworth, can you create vm's with their Player one?
[14:20] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> thanks
[14:20] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> I will check it out
[14:20] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> $250 is a ton
[14:20] <SharkMuttleworth> PatrickDickey: Yes, there used to be a restriction on it but you can now
[14:20] <nablet> hi, my wireless suddenly stops working. it wont work unless i restart the computer. ahy ideas?
[14:21] <PatrickDickey> There you go Eric_New_Ubuntu VMWare Player.
[14:21] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> yeah, I will have to look into the difference
[14:21]  * PatrickDickey I'd download a trial of workstation, get everything set up using it, then use VMWare Player from then on.
[14:21] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> Not sure I can
[14:21] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> I need to get on win 7
[14:21] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> Been running XP for like 10 years
[14:22] <fluitfries> i always avoided vmware because of all the accounts and registration required to access their free softwares
[14:22] <fluitfries> so i still use vbox
[14:22] <PatrickDickey> Eric_New_Ubuntu as long as you have a legal copy of Win 7, you can install it on there.
[14:22] <jiffe98> if ubuntu doesn't boot the first time or it reboots in the middle of a boot, grub doesn't automatically choose the default option on the second boot, is there a way to change this?
[14:22] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> is player sufficient for an occasion Win 7 use for graphics?
[14:23] <SharkMuttleworth> What do you mean by graphics?
[14:23] <PatrickDickey> I think so. I'm not guaranteeing the Aero effects.
[14:23] <sk1special> anyone know a good program to make a bootable usb with an iso?
[14:23] <PatrickDickey> sk1special unetbootin
[14:24] <sk1special> PatrickDickney: thats not specific to ubuntu /linux is it?
[14:24] <PatrickDickey> Nope.
[14:24] <SharkMuttleworth> VMWare can accelerate 3D graphics, so Aero should workin theory
[14:24] <johnjacobjingerh> if hardware can support it
[14:24] <PatrickDickey> sk1special what os are you going to use it on?
[14:24] <johnjacobjingerh> i've had mixed success with vmware and windows 7 aero
[14:24] <nablet> hi, can some1 help me with my wireless card. it randomly stops working
[14:25] <sk1special> mmk  thank ya thank ya. ah windows 8 release preview. grub is voiding the one i created in windows so im trying to remake it here
[14:25] <PatrickDickey> sk1special http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[14:25] <PatrickDickey> They have Windows, Linux, and Mac OS X
[14:25] <sk1special> well im doing it in ubuntu. but im making it for win8rp
[14:26] <Zer000> so my laptop's volume keeps going mute, unmute and repeating
[14:26] <Zer000> this creates an annoying 'pop' sound as the sound comes back on
[14:27] <PatrickDickey> sk1special it might not create the bootable windows 8 disk. You'll have to check.
[14:27] <KaKila1> d
[14:27] <NewWorld> Zer000:  when does it mut/unmute?
[14:27] <Zer000> just by itself
[14:28] <NewWorld> Zer000:  Even when it's idle and you're not touching the PC?
[14:28] <Zer000> yes
[14:28] <NewWorld> that's really weird :S
[14:28] <Zer000> yes it is
[14:28] <nablet> Zer000, check for interference with other devices... like mobile phones and stuff like that
[14:28] <Zer000> but it worked fine for years with ubuntu, its a recent problem
[14:29] <NewWorld> Zer000:  Think back to what you did your system recently - what you installed, what settings changed, etc.
[14:29] <Zer000> I'm running updates. it stopped doing that just now! maybe it got patched in some package.... amazing
[14:29] <sk1special> hmm. Patrick: i dont think it will. but it does have another utility that lets me do alot with grub /win mbr that might help
[14:29] <NewWorld> :D
[14:29] <jackhill> I posted my question to askubuntu http://askubuntu.com/questions/205234/how-should-i-determine-if-a-user-is-logged-in-graphically-while-lightdm-is-runni
[14:32] <nicknick> hey guys
[14:32] <compdoc> dont use gals get a hello?
[14:32] <compdoc> us
[14:32] <edve> Hi there
[14:33] <nicknick> guys is the catch-all
[14:33] <nicknick> like ellos in spanish
[14:33] <nicknick> can refer to girls and guys in the same group :)
[14:33]  * PatrickDickey prefers everyone.Just generic enough.
[14:33] <johnjacobjingerh> maybe volume buttons are messed up lol
[14:35] <Kartagis> how can trace an UDP attack?
[14:35] <nablet> hi, can some1 help me with my wireless card. it randomly stops working.
[14:35] <nablet> i use wicd and fluxbox
[14:35] <Pici> Kartagis: try asking somewhere like ##security
[14:36] <sk1special> mmk that sites not working/firewall is hating/idk wtf lol. so i need a different one.
[14:36] <SharkMuttleworth> Kartagis: Tracer T, as shown by next gen hacker: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXmv8quf_xM
[14:36] <sk1special> ( a program that lets me make a bootable usb from an iso file that is )
[14:38] <nicknick> I was having an issue with my wireless card as well, what kind of card do you have?
[14:38] <fluitfries> Kartagis, backtrack linux distro, and it's community, may help ya with that.
[14:39] <Kartagis> fluitfries: it's on my VPS, can't use it there
[14:39] <nablet> can some1 explain me this imagebin.org/232974
[14:39] <johnjacobjingerh> sk1special, what are you trying to make bootable... there are different utilitities that work for different things
[14:40] <fluitfries> Kartagis, but the community for BT will likely tell you which linux application to use...
[14:40] <sk1special> a Win8RP iso  and im on ubuntu
[14:41] <PatrickDickey> nablet it's a ping result. It means that you were sending and receiving packets back.
[14:41] <sk1special> sorry got logged out somehow. but a Win8RP iso while on ubuntu
[14:41] <Kartagis> okay thanks fluitfries
[14:41] <fluitfries> Kartagis, np
[14:41] <nablet> PatrickDickey, i know...but do you see the line that is different from the others?
[14:42] <PatrickDickey> nablet it just looks like it didn't resolve the host name for that line. That, and it was delayed a bit.
[14:45] <nablet> PatrickDickey, it is resolving the name for every ping?
[14:46] <PatrickDickey> nablet, when it can, yes. But, IMHO it's more important that you're getting results than whether it resolves the name.
[14:46] <sk1special> or if not a bootable usb prog than just one that lets me boot directly to usb instead of grub menu
[14:46] <area51pilot> sklspecial: you trying to boot from a Win8 USB ... like a live USB/CD
[14:46] <sk1special> not a live as in running while testing just to install it from a usb
[14:47] <nablet> PatrickDickey, i did this ping because my network connection is unstable
[14:47] <PatrickDickey> sk1special, if you have a USB stick that's bootable, then you can do that through your BIOS or a boot menu.
[14:47] <nablet> PatrickDickey, and i'm not sure where to check for the faults
[14:47] <sk1special> ive tried setting my bios settings to boot directly from usb and it wont work. and same with updating grub and booting from there. it says that it cant find it/missing/some other error message. but it works fine on my other computer
[14:48] <PatrickDickey> nablet, I saw that. I'm not sure what to tell you about the wireless card though. I'd say keep checking back occasionally and someone will know what to do.
[14:48] <fluitfries> sk1special, i have never had grub interrupt my booting from a usb...  the BIOS should handle that aspect, not grub
[14:48] <nablet> PatrickDickey, my network card sometimes just stops working and i can only be fixed by reboot - but on to of that my internet connection is weired and that may be the cause\
[14:48] <area51pilot> sklspecial: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/tool-to-create-windows-usb-install.html
[14:48] <area51pilot> ?
[14:48] <area51pilot> did you see that pacjage?
[14:48] <area51pilot> package..
[14:48] <nablet> PatrickDickey, *but on top of that
[14:48] <sk1special> *shrug* dont ask me lol. it worked fine last time..and it works fine on my other pcs. just not here
[14:49] <PatrickDickey> sk1special can you boot other bootable USB drives on this computer? it might be the computer itself.
[14:49] <area51pilot> sklspecial ... set boot priority to have USB b4 any other media?
[14:49] <PatrickDickey> nablet, like I said, I'm not sure what to tell you. I've only got one wireless computer, and I really haven't used it much lately.
[14:50] <nablet> PatrickDickey, thank you though for your interest
[14:50] <sk1special> yes other usbs work. and this usb works on other pcs. and ive checked it in windows and ubuntu and it says its bootable and everything looks fine. and i tried the usb prority..but grub overrides everything then wont let it boot
[14:50] <sk1special> im trying that winusb link now
[14:51] <PatrickDickey> sk1special, if it's booting to the USB drive, then GRUB won't even be involved. So if you're seeing GRUB (and it's not on the USB Drive) then it's not booting to the drive at all.
[14:51] <PatrickDickey> what I mean is that it's either not trying to boot to the drive, or it's failing when it does. So it boots to the next device (your hard drive) and you get the GRUB menu.
[14:52] <sk1special> when it goes to load from the usb drive. a grub error message comes up..and it does the same thing when i try f12 for the boot list. then it resets to the grub menu
[14:52] <calisto_> Omg big userlist
[14:52] <calisto_> :D
[14:53] <PatrickDickey> I would guess that it's not able to boot that specific drive then. But, I'm not sure.
[14:53] <SuperLag> I don't have a Cisco profile to be able to log on to cco.cisco.com and download a VPN client. Any of you guys have the Cisco Anyconnect VPN client tarball that I can get from you?
[14:53] <Calisto94> Way better
[14:53] <Calisto94> :P
[14:53] <nicknick> Anyone around that can understand and help me with: http://paste2.org/p/2371510 ?
[14:53] <sk1special> yeah..when i go into the grub command line to boot it from there it doesnt list any installed/available usbs.. but when i use the disk check utility here in ubuntu it shows it and says its bootable and bla bla
[14:53] <Calisto94> This channel is meant to be a support channel? oO
[14:54] <PatrickDickey> Yep Calisto94. Support and a bit of everything, it seems.
[14:55] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> One more question for you gurus
[14:55] <Calisto94> Question: Which NTFS driver is used for Ubuntu? Is it ntfs-3g? How safe is it to write files with it? (I just did it sometimes, but were there ever some problems with it?)
[14:55] <sk1special> okay i just tried usinbg winusb .. and it worked the best so far ..but then i got this message
[14:55] <PatrickDickey> nicknick, what seems to be the problem?
[14:55] <bassgoon> so did they drop the dvd live/install image for 12.10?
[14:55] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> trying to install vmware
[14:56] <sk1special> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1300308/
[14:56] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> Of course it doesn't just install like every other computer system in 2012
[14:56] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> So, I got an installer from ubuntu software
[14:56] <nicknick> I upgraded from 11.10 to 12.04, after the upgrade, I can't get passed grub.  It simply hangs there with the mouse centered on the screen blinking.
[14:56] <nicknick> thanks so much for the help, I've searched everywhere.
[14:56] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> I installed qapt installer
[14:56] <gaben> nicknick: Can you get into recovery mode from Grub?
[14:56] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> Not showing up in my apps section
[14:57] <anton309> Hi
[14:57] <nicknick> not recently
[14:57] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> It's some sort of shell based program right?
[14:57] <nicknick> when I started having this issue, I was able to, now I cannot (after running boot-repair-disk)
[14:57] <anton309> Does anyone know if upgrading to windows 8 on my 7 partition will screw up my PC's boot loader?
[14:57] <PatrickDickey> Yeah. I want to say it's vmware-player (if that's what you installed).
[14:57] <bassgoon> that live/install image was always my favorite...
[14:58] <gaben> anton309: It won't screw Grub up, it will overwrite it
[14:58] <area51pilot> sklspecial: try starting from a clean stick .. use Gparted to wipe it and start new?
[14:58] <zetheroo> friend of mine using Ubuntu 12.04 on a laptop told me that today the touchpad is no longer working ... it works in Windows 7 fine though, so not a hardware fault ... what to do?
[14:58] <zetheroo> we have tried several things but to no avail
[14:58] <PatrickDickey> anton309, as gaben said, it will overwrite GRUB. So, you'll have to use a Live CD to fix that.
[14:58] <nydel> how can you add the ubuntu/canonical ppa from command line?
[14:58] <sk1special> area51: yeah thats what im trying now and it seems to be working so far lol.. well see
[14:59] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> how does one install a .bundle file
[14:59] <PatrickDickey> nydel sudo apt-add-repository
[14:59] <anton309> So it will overwite my GRUB boot loader? Even doing an upgrage not clean install :/
[14:59] <nydel> PatrickDickey: do you know the location & user / whatever for the main ppa?
[15:00] <PatrickDickey> anton309, that's right. It will overwrite it, because Microsoft doesn't look for it. They just install their bootloader in place.
[15:00] <dyd> guys where can i find support for lubuntu?
[15:00] <bazhang> !partner | nydel
[15:00] <dyd> !lubuntu
[15:00] <PatrickDickey> nydel, nope.
[15:00] <PatrickDickey> dyd #lubuntu is for Lubuntu.
[15:00] <anton309> Aw i like my GRUB boot loader :/ Thanks for letting me know :)
[15:00] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> Is MINT easier to use?
[15:00] <sk1special> anton : idk how you have yours set up.. but i had win 7 on one drive and ubuntu on the other.. win i upgraded to win 8 i just unplugged my ubuntu drive upgraded win then reconnected my ubuntu and it defaulted to ubuntu then i updated grub and both worked fine *shrug*
[15:00] <nydel> thanks bazhang
[15:01] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> I mean is there as much cmd line time required?
[15:01] <nydel> bazhang: doing that, theoretically, someone on precise could add the quantal repositories?
[15:01] <PatrickDickey> anton309, after you upgrade, run a live CD. you can replace your GRUB and everything will work fine.
[15:01] <gordonjcp> Eric_New_Ubuntu: depends what you mean by "easier", but it's not a supported distro in here
[15:01] <bazhang> nydel, dont ever mix version repos
[15:01] <dyd> PatrickDickey, yea thanks :)
[15:02] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> Of course, it's not supported, I do know that.  I am just wondering, I want to download and install vmware workstation and no have to sudo or any crap like that
[15:02] <sk1special> (not trying to hate most of you know more than i do just my experience)
[15:02] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> Is that possible with any form of linux?
[15:02] <anton309> Could somone point me towards what I would have to do to recover GRUB? ;)
[15:02] <KaKila> LibreOffice without global menus. lo-menubar can't be installed. Help
[15:02] <bazhang> Eric_New_Ubuntu, this is ubuntu support , try ##linux
[15:02] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> Ok, thanks!
[15:02] <PatrickDickey> Eric_New_Ubuntu, you might be able to run it through the file manager.
[15:02] <nydel> bazhang: i assume it's not advised. but if i wanted to install a media player & dependencies quickly on a lucid machine, what should i do?
[15:02] <PatrickDickey> !grub
[15:03] <MonkeyDust> Eric_New_Ubuntu  sudo or equivalents is what makes linux more secure than windows
[15:03] <PatrickDickey> !grub | anton309
[15:03] <bazhang> nydel, compile or find a ppa
[15:03] <gordonjcp> nydel: install the ones appropriate to your distro
[15:03] <anton309> Ah thank you
[15:03] <gordonjcp> nydel: you can mix and match repositories but the results can be unpredictable and interesting
[15:04] <Belgarath> nydel: find ppa for lucid
[15:04] <nydel> bazhang: gordonjcp: i found the ppa for the player, but the dependencies aren't found for the distro (not with the stock repositories) -- am i just out of luck?
[15:04] <japs> hi, does anyone know the reason why libc6 is on version 2.15 in ubuntu but only 2.13 in debian (sid)
[15:04] <Belgarath> otherwise msot of your x libs will get updated
[15:04] <PatrickDickey> anton309 no problem. I've ran into it more times than I care to admit (in here at least).
[15:05] <PatrickDickey> japs possibly because it had bugfixes that they wanted. I'm not sure.
[15:05] <nydel> Belgarath: the ppa's for lucid seem not to have libprotobuf-lite7, whereas the newer ubuntu's do
[15:05] <japs> PatrickDickey: do you happen to know if upgrading it breaks anything in debian?
[15:06] <PatrickDickey> So, what's a good Nvidia card that's supported under 12.10 and is newer than a 9800 (not a Quadro though).
[15:06] <nydel> if libprotobuf-lite7 isn't in the lucid ppa does that mean it's not supported?
[15:06] <PatrickDickey> japs I'm not sure. Are you using debian repositories or just ubuntu ones?
[15:06] <BluesKaj> PatrickDickey, check out the nvidia site , most of their cards are linux supported
[15:06] <Belgarath> nydel: it means it's wrong ppa
[15:06] <japs> i'm running debian on debian only repos
[15:07] <Belgarath> nydel:  it hsould give you all the libs that you are missing
[15:07] <PatrickDickey> BluesKaj I was hoping for personal experience.
[15:07] <Belgarath> but just make sure yuou have universe/multiverse sources enabled
[15:07] <PatrickDickey> japs, then why would you want to upgrade libc?
[15:08] <japs> cause i need to installe sagemath
[15:08] <japs> which requires it, since it was compiled on ubuntu 12.04
[15:08] <BluesKaj> PatrickDickey, well, mine is just an elcheapo geforce 8400gs , but it's perfect for 3D DRI and HD movies ... haven't done any gaming
[15:08] <Belgarath> PatrickDickey: as for nvida 690/695 is ok
[15:08] <PatrickDickey> japs, I'd ask in a debian channel. They'll know better than us.
[15:08] <nydel> Belgarath: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1300333/
[15:09] <japs> PatrickDickey: already asked there
[15:09] <nydel> Belgarath: those broken packages, how do i get those?
[15:09] <PatrickDickey> japs, and what did they say?
[15:09] <Belgarath> nydel: show me your /etc/apt/sources.list
[15:09] <bazhang> japs, then be patient. #debian is for debian support NOT here
[15:09] <japs> PatrickDickey: to come ask here
[15:10] <japs> bazhang: i know
[15:10] <Belgarath> japs: recompile with static libc linking ?
[15:10] <xxiao> aptitude search works well, apt-cache search does not, too many noise there
[15:10] <japs> Belgarath: if possible i wanted to avoid recompiling sagemath
[15:10] <PatrickDickey> japs, I'd just ask them generically.  "Will upgrading to libc6 2.15 break anything in the repositories?"
[15:10] <japs> cause it is a huge source
[15:10] <gordonjcp> japs: that's probably your best answer
[15:10] <nydel> Belgarath: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1300276/
[15:10] <xxiao> anyway to use apt-cache as efficient as aptitude search?
[15:10] <BluesKaj> !aptitude | xxiao
[15:10] <Belgarath> japs if you upgrade libc you neeed to upgrade everything
[15:11] <gordonjcp> japs: Debian and Ubuntu basically share a package format, that's it
[15:11] <xxiao> ubottu: i'm aware of that, thanks. can apt-cache suck less on search?
[15:11] <Belgarath> upgrading libc will break everything in tyhe repos
[15:11] <KaKila> Libreoffice without menus. Here https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lo-menubar/+changelog it says lo-menubar is not needed, but I have no menus!!
[15:11] <gordonjcp> japs: your most reliable answer is to either install Ubuntu 12.04 or compile your app for Debian
[15:11] <gordonjcp> japs: anything else is going to give you all manner of strangeness
[15:12] <Belgarath> nydel: you are missing main repository
[15:12] <japs> gordonjcp: ok, will try to do that then
[15:12] <nydel> really?
[15:12] <japs> thanks everyone
[15:12] <nydel> Belgarath: could you write the line that would add it?
[15:12] <zetheroo> if the Touchpad works in Guest user but not in the actual user .... what could be wrong?
[15:13] <Belgarath> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu precise main universe multiverse
[15:13] <Belgarath> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu precise-updates main universe multiverse
[15:13] <Belgarath> change your sources.list to that
[15:13] <Belgarath> zetheroo: you using the smae windows manager on both ?
[15:13] <michealPW> On Ubuntu 12.04 with KDM as my login manager, I cannot seem to get it to show my face/icon/avatar :(
[15:13] <Belgarath> yuou can actually diasable touchpad in settings on most fo the window managers
[15:14] <Belgarath> ansd that is per user cofniguration
[15:14] <zetheroo> Belgarath: yes, the default with Ubuntu 12.04
[15:14] <Belgarath> look at system settings/mouse
[15:14] <Belgarath> or input devices
[15:14] <michealPW> I've tried everything I can think of. I copied the .jpg faces from /usr/share/pixmaps/faces and put them in /usr/share/kde4/apps/kdm/users/icons and they show up in the "About Me" utility where I select the icon-face... But when I goto the login screen, nobody has an icon :(
[15:15] <michealPW> I even used GIMP to change the /usr/share/pixmaps/faces from jpg to png, thinking maybe KDM just can't use jpgs, still doesn't work :\
[15:15] <sk1special> mmk. to try the usb..brb
[15:16] <area51pilot> ;)
[15:18] <fender> hi, I've just set up a server in ubuntu 12.04. But it didnt work out to well. So now Im thinking of making my own cloud. Anyone know where I should start? The computer I'll be using is a Samsung NC10
[15:18] <zetheroo> Belgarath: been there ...  as I said we tried a number of things with no change
[15:20] <zetheroo> anyone else know what could be wrong here? Touchpad works in Guest account but not in real users account
[15:20] <magma> how can I trim/crop the white space around a pdf?
[15:20] <sk1special> mmk ima shoot this computer and build a new one.
[15:21] <MonkeyDust> magma  you can edit pdf with inkscape, try that
[15:21] <sk1special> but until then how do i update grub?
[15:22] <sk1special> edit*. why when i type update-grub does it says must run as root grub mkconfig and why does just grub bring up grub is not installed
[15:22] <uosiu[shell]> Hi all
[15:23] <NewWorld> sk1special:  use sudo for that cmd then
[15:23] <xxiao> apt-cache search --names-only mypkg
[15:23] <uosiu[shell]> I've manually installed ubuntu 12.10 and I want to add some of cryptsetup-luks volumes to my /etc/fstab
[15:23] <xxiao> just more typing...that's the same as aptitude search
[15:23] <uosiu[shell]> how to force plymouth to ask for password on boot?
[15:24] <area51pilot> sklspecial: sounds like youre having fun
[15:25] <sk1special> area: ha.  i just want whats is *supposed to work perfectly fine * to work.
[15:26] <sk1special> id settle for a fix to actually fix something
[15:26] <npws_marc> how do i edit grubs menu.lst in 12.04? it's not in /boot/grub
[15:26] <Calinou> fender: two of the words you just said: "owncloud"
[15:26] <Calinou> :P
[15:27] <anton436> Does anyone know a tool I can use on Ubuntu to take all the music off my ipad and import it to ubuntu?
[15:27] <sk1special> brb trying something
[15:27] <SharkMuttleworth> anton436: Banshee
[15:27] <filar> hi
[15:27] <SharkMuttleworth> anton436: Probably has the best integration with Apple devices
[15:27] <filar> when can I expect fglrx 9.002 in ubuntu repo?
[15:28] <ThinkT510> npws_marc: menu.lst is from grub1, 12.04 uses grub2 so it's grub.cfg (which shouldn't be edited directly)
[15:28] <fender> Calinou: what do you mean?
[15:28] <Calinou> anton436: apple device suppot is quite sketchy on ubuntu, especially if you updated to ios 6
[15:28] <Calinou> fender: use owncloud
[15:28] <ThinkT510> !grub | npws_marc
[15:28] <fender> aha! Will look into that, thanks
[15:28] <SharkMuttleworth> Yes, Apple devices intentionally don't play nice with others... walled garden and all that
[15:29] <gaetano_> #ubuntustudio
[15:29] <nbf> douche garden
[15:29] <nbf> that's the new term apple prefers
[15:29] <nbf> it's fancier and french
[15:29] <bazhang> !ot | nbf
[15:29] <SharkMuttleworth> Haha
[15:29] <filar> when can I expect fglrx 9.002 in ubuntu repo?
[15:30] <nibbler_> any suggestions for a tiling wm in ubuntu?
[15:30] <fender> oh, btw.. how do I write to a specific user in irc? like calinou did to me
[15:30] <deadmund> nibbler_: awesome  (it's the best) but there is a steep learning curve
[15:31] <sk1special> okay. no go. does anyone know a command that will let me boot directly to my thumbdrive? instead of going to the grub menu
[15:31] <SharkMuttleworth> nibbler_: I like dwm, but it's rather subjective. Problem is they all have a learning curve, so can't easily try loads
[15:31] <sk1special> or let me restart directly to my thumb drive
[15:31] <pacotesta> hei?
[15:32] <sk1special> or disable grub for a single start up
[15:32] <nibbler_> deadmund: SharkMuttleworth: thanks for the tipps, i'll start my survey with these two
[15:32] <deadmund> hahaha ...Muttleworth
[15:32] <Calinou> fender: you can tab-complete, type the beginning of a name then press tab. note that this doesn't make messages private; use /msg <nick> <message> instead.
[15:32] <milen8204> when I start wine my Ubuntu 11.10 logs me out. Anyone can help?
[15:33] <Calinou> deadmund: arch user spotted :)
[15:33] <deadmund> :P
[15:33] <deadmund> Caught red-handed!
[15:34] <fender> Calinou: thanks alot. I suspect this will help alot later on :)
[15:34] <deadmund> fender: "a lot"*
[15:34] <Calinou> it's "a lot", yes
[15:35] <ijerry> oh ,yea;
[15:35] <michealPW> lol
[15:35] <wblair> need help troubleshooting boot issue.  Reboot after required restart drops me into initramfs clainimg can't find /dev /sys .... Obviosly can get into grum menu
[15:36] <dr_willis> milen8204:  you mean 'its crashing back to the login screen'  ;-) t
[15:36] <wblair> RUnning in a VM and I have a snapshot and can boot that with no problem except the file system was RO when snapshot taken.
[15:36] <dr_willis> milen8204: what are you running in wine?
[15:37] <zetheroo> log out now and then back in
[15:37] <zetheroo> then open teamviewer
[15:39] <nibbler_> so, to get rid of whatever is managing my display went to tty1, executed "export DISPLAY=0.0; metacity -replace" and killed metacity.... i can restart metacity, but no other wm? (awesome, i3, ...) - they can't open display.... any hint?
[15:41] <dr_willis> nibbler_: why are you needing to do this?
[15:41] <nibbler_> dr_willis: want to try some tiling wms?
[15:42] <dr_willis> nibbler_: make a xsession that just loads a terminal. launch the wm to test from it. ctrl-c to kill it to try others.
[15:43] <nibbler_> dr_willis: well.. maybe... good enough for testing... would have loved to test in my active session....
[15:43] <dr_willis> that often gets things screwy nibbler_
[15:44] <Guest5556> hi
[15:44] <jbjb> hi
[15:44] <dimos> hello! :)
[15:45] <dr_willis> many of those wm set up otger customizations and apps fromtheir lightdm session
[15:45] <Guest5556> ......
[15:45] <dr_willis> moo
[15:46] <ASHER1> gad dammn with ftp i try install ftp and i no can up file from my computer :(
[15:46] <dimos> can anyone tell me how to add a *new* client on LTSP server(of a school, ubuntu)? just try to boot from network(bios settings)?
[15:46] <dr_willis> please rant es
[15:46] <dr_willis> elsewhere
[15:47] <dr_willis> dimos: i think so.
[15:48] <ASHER1> how i install ftp in ubuntu 10.04?
[15:49] <OerHeks> ASHER1, depends on wich FTP, i think you need to create an user
[15:49] <starrydynamo> https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/ftp-server.html
[15:50] <dr_willis> !info ftpd
[15:50] <dr_willis> better to use ssh.
[15:51] <starrydynamo> Well scp.
[15:51] <starrydynamo> FTP is not very secure.
[15:51] <dr_willis> i like sshfs ;-)
[15:51] <OerHeks> dr_willis, ssh needs an user too, that doesn't solve his problem
[15:52] <starrydynamo> I'll second that, I use Macfusion for sshfs.
[15:52] <dr_willis> ive no idea what his actual problem is.. i never saw it  stated
[15:53] <starrydynamo> What is he doing that he doens't have a user?
[15:54] <ASHER1> create user in database?
[15:55] <ASHER1> OerHeks
[15:55] <ASHER1> ?
[15:56] <dislo> Has anyone in here ever live transcoded a rtsp stream to a iwhatever or an android
[15:56] <ASHER1> i dont understand something about ftp
[15:56] <OerHeks> ASHER1, you need to give more details, wich FTP do you want to use.
[15:57] <ASHER1> you say i need create user
[15:57] <ASHER1> where i need o create in phpmyadmin?"
[15:57] <starrydynamo> ASHER1, what is your end goal?
[15:58] <xMopxShell> Hi guys, I just installed & updated 12.10. After i installed nvidia-current and nvidia-settings, unity is gone and im stuck at 640x480. can anyone help?
[15:58] <ASHER1> i try install ftp from my computer and i try upload file from computer and file no up
[15:59] <ASHER1> i want understand if i need also create user ftp in phpmyadmin
[16:00] <dr_willis> some ftpd servers require you to make specific ftp users. or allow existing users. some like 'ftpd' allow all users to ftp into their home dir by default
[16:00] <dr_willis> so it depends on WHICH ftpd server you are using
[16:00] <michealPW> Probably just permissions issue on the folder he's serving.
[16:00] <starrydynamo> Also make sure that you're firewall is allowing ftp
[16:01] <ASHER1> but in conf
[16:01] <ASHER1> i no see
[16:01] <ASHER1> user
[16:01] <ASHER1> and pass
[16:01] <FloodBot1> ASHER1: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:01] <dr_willis> what conf?
[16:01] <dr_willis> what ftp server are you using?
[16:01] <ASHER1> vsftpd.conf
[16:01] <ASHER1> i see guide from here
[16:02] <ASHER1> https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/ftp-server.html
[16:02] <ASHER1> and i did all what i need to do
[16:02] <ASHER1> and i try upfile and this give to me error about pass and user
[16:02] <dr_willis> vsftpd had issues last i tried it.  i got anony ous ftp workinmg. but not the users. UNTILL i edited the conf to make the service name be 'ftp' or 'ftpd' instead of 'vsftp'  theres some apparmour issue
[16:03] <dr_willis> the 'ftpd' server worked without s issue
[16:03] <michealPW> Yea it's likely AppArmor :P
[16:03] <dr_willis> if you dont really need vsftp, i would try 'ftpd'
[16:04] <michealPW> I think he failed to follow the guide properly.. ASHER1 that guide you link is actually 2 seperate guides in one.
[16:04] <mannyb> I'm trying to test the watchdog. How can I get the kernel to crash from userspace?
[16:04] <ASHER1> i understand something i need create folder in my home name FTP
[16:04] <ASHER1> and install
[16:04] <michealPW> I don't see in that guide anything about AppArmor or even using chmod hehe.
[16:04] <dr_willis> i had issues with vsftp following the guides. ;)
[16:05] <dr_willis> couldent get normal users to access their home.
[16:05] <davinciad> Need some help installing ubuntu 12.10, it hangs on the ubuntu logo and never goes any futher. I have a dell e6320.
[16:05] <cnf> hmm, how do i change system fonts on unity 12.10?
[16:06] <dr_willis> i recall putting the info i had to do in the #ubuntu+1 channel like 2 weeks ago. so its in their logs. but this was for 12.10
[16:06] <pbhadnari> hi, does anyone know how to connect to a AES encrypted wiress, in quantal?
[16:06] <mannyb> davinciad> try enabling verbose boot. turn off the splash screen
[16:06] <michealPW> Hrmm
[16:06] <michealPW> *thinks*
[16:06] <davinciad> I did it never stops on the same service
[16:06] <dr_willis> !nomodeset | davidhadas
[16:06] <dr_willis> oops wrong  nick ;)
[16:07] <OerHeks> ASHER1, maybe this wiki is any help >> http://www.wikihow.com/Setup-vsftpd-FTP-on-Ubuntu-Linux
[16:07] <davidhadas> hhhhhhh...  anyone called?
[16:07] <davidhadas> ubottu: ?
[16:08] <dr_willis> ;) tab completion overkill
[16:08] <davidhadas> back to bed...
[16:08] <davidhadas> :)
[16:08] <nonamehero> hi im getting ntldr error after install ubuntu 6.04
[16:09] <dr_willis> nonamehero:  6.04 was a typo right?
[16:09] <ThinkT510> nonamehero: 6.04? thats long since unsupported
[16:09] <MonkeyDust> nonamehero  there is no 6.04, it was 6.06
[16:09] <dr_willis> i hope
[16:09] <nonamehero> well i clicked the download thing and it gave me this one
[16:10] <dr_willis> 12.10 just came outtt nonamehero
[16:10] <MonkeyDust> nonamehero  try again http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[16:10] <starrydynamo> Nonamehero, that's a file system error. Are you dual-booting with any other OS?
[16:12] <michealPW> apparmor-utils isn't installed by default?
[16:12] <michealPW> That's weird
[16:13] <starrydynamo> Haha, Where are you downloading it from that it gave you 6.06?
[16:13] <MonkeyDust> michealPW  some applications were left out, to keep the iso small enough
[16:14] <michealPW> Ah, I see.
[16:14] <mooc0w> excuse me where to find official linux driver for nvidia?
[16:14] <jud> ciao
[16:14] <mooc0w> i cant find please help
[16:14] <gordonjcp> !nvidia | mooc0w
[16:14] <ThinkT510> mooc0w: what version of ubuntu you using?
[16:14] <mooc0w> i use 12.04
[16:15] <ThinkT510> mooc0w: search for additional drivers or jockey
[16:15] <mooc0w> i know there r open source driver for nvidia
[16:15] <mooc0w> but i want official ones they work best i think
[16:16] <ThinkT510> mooc0w: the open source driver nouveau is used by default, the nvidia drivers are available though the jockey interface in 12.04
[16:17] <michealPW> god, apparmor doesn't seem "easy" or "simple" at all.. :\
[16:17] <michealPW> Is there a good guide for apparmor somewhere I'm missing?
[16:18] <mooc0w> thinkt510 how come they say experimental? sound risky
[16:19] <argon1> Hi, is there a way to determine which llvm version is used by default on my system ? When I do llvm (and press tab in terminal), three are listed, llvm, llvm-2.9, llvm3.0.
[16:19] <mooc0w> thinkt510 u there
[16:20] <davinciad> Tried nomodeset and it still gets hung up at the boot logo any other ideas?
[16:20] <ThinkT510> mooc0w: there are experimental and stable ones
[16:20] <mooc0w> i see only experimental =[
[16:20] <ThinkT510> mooc0w: really? screenshot
[16:21] <milen8204> Help me please, when I start the wine, my system logs off, I am whit Ubuntu 11.10
[16:21] <nishttal2> hi all.. i am running ubuntu server 12.04.. how can i tell it to use the onboard VGA for output and not the external nvidia gtx also installed
[16:21] <ThinkT510> milen8204: how are you starting wine?
[16:22] <starrydynamo> Davinciad, try nomodeset, but also check every box under 'other options'...F6.
[16:23] <starrydynamo> Turning everything off and just doing a CLI always works well for me.
[16:23] <milen8204> Aplications >wine
[16:23] <milen8204> uninstal wine softwere
[16:23] <gnubie> nishttal2>>  have you looked at the servers motherboard settings?
[16:24] <gnubie> nishttal2>>  have you looked at the servers motherboard BIOS settings
[16:24] <MonkeyDust> nishttal2  tip: there's also #ubuntu-server
[16:25] <nishttal2> gnubie: when the server boots up.. i get display output thru the onboard vga.. but after grub.. i get a blank screen.. so ubuntu is using the GTX card... i can login remotely to the server so i know its up.. just nothing on the display
[16:25] <nishttal2> MonkeyDust: oh ok.. i'll post there as well.. thanks
[16:26] <xMopxShell> !dyk
[16:26] <xMopxShell> Wrong window , my b
[16:27] <argon1> Hi, is there a way to determine which llvm version is used by default on my system ? When I do llvm (and press tab in terminal), three are listed, llvm, llvm-2.9, llvm3.0, but I am not sure which is the version represented by "llvm" listed there
[16:27] <gnubie> nishttal2>>  hmm, not sure but if you can turn the nvidia off in the mb BIOS ubuntu won't be able to use it.
[16:29] <ciccio> ciao
[16:29] <ciccio> list
[16:29] <ciccio> llist
[16:30] <starrydynamo> Hey Davinciad, any update?
[16:31] <high_priest> hi everybody, I'm trying to reset root password but when I boot to maintenance mode, I have no picture, just blank screen
[16:31] <richweskus> hey guys, if my router is the device which connects to the internet and assigns ips (dhcp) would it be possible to take that connection and then share it on my ubuntu desktop? as if its the one that created the connection
[16:31] <high_priest> so how do I reset my root pw?
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[16:31] <rolling2k> :D
[16:31] <davinciad> Yeah still hung up, I am going to try the alternate 1204 installation then upgrade to 12.10
[16:31] <NewWorld> high_priest:  You can press Ctrl-Alt-F1 to get into shell
[16:31] <high_priest> NewWorld: I don't know the user or root password
[16:31] <ThinkT510> high_priest: you shouldn't have a root password, only your user should have a password
[16:32] <BluesKaj> !password | high_priest
[16:32] <hazardous> !sudo
[16:32] <high_priest> ThinkT510: but I don't know user's password either
[16:32] <high_priest> it's set to autologin
[16:32] <dr_willis> 0_o
[16:32] <dr_willis> so who set up the system?
[16:33] <high_priest> dr_willis: my friend's ex boyfriend :)
[16:33] <dr_willis> set a new password via the recovery mode. and disable that autologin..
[16:34] <high_priest> dr_willis: recovery mode is asking me to enter root password - which I dont know
[16:34] <dr_willis> use a live cd and edit the passwd file is another way
[16:34] <dr_willis> unless the fs is encrypted ;)
[16:35] <dr_willis> or 'single user mode'
[16:35] <high_priest> If I burn a cd - it'll be easier to reinstall the damn thing
[16:35] <soc42> hi #ubuntu
[16:35] <high_priest> dr_willis: I tried single user mode, the screen is blank
[16:35] <torstein> typing 'rvm' in terminal: suggestion of apt-get install ruby-rvm. but 'unable to find package'... what gives? :)
[16:36] <dr_willis> use the nomodeset, nofb,nosplash options with single user mode
[16:36] <high_priest> dr_willis: let me try that
[16:36] <soc42> are there any backdraws using WINE on ubuntu?
[16:36] <dr_willis> framebuffer can cause issues
[16:36] <ThinkT510> soc42: what are you thinking of?
[16:36] <goddard> do i need to do something special to reload my xorg.conf file?
[16:37] <dr_willis> soc42:  having to rely on windows apps instead of learning liux native apps. ;)
[16:37] <dr_willis> goddard:  restart the x server.
[16:37] <goddard> ok
[16:37] <soc42> e.g. is there something equivalent to 'beyond compare' on ubuntu?
[16:38] <dr_willis> no idea what 'beyone compare' is
[16:38] <soc42> dr_willis: it's a diff/merge app
[16:38] <Pici> soc42: meld?
[16:38] <soc42> Pici: haven't tried meld yet...
[16:39] <soc42> Pici: i guess, i should ;o)
[16:39] <high_priest> dr_willis: nah, still the same.. Imma reinstall everything
[16:39] <high_priest> thx though
[16:40] <_underscore> I installed ubuntu 12.10 today, after installing the ati drivers I came to know about the conflict b/w ati and xserver. The package from software sources is not working as well.
[16:40] <richweskus> hey guys, if my router is the device which connects to the internet and assigns ips (dhcp) would it be possible to take that connection and then share it on my ubuntu desktop? as if its the one that created the connection
[16:40] <soc42> ThinkT510: i am currently using a 3D software (mac/inw) and i am planning to go for a network render farm, hopefully on ubuntu
[16:41] <soc42> -inw +win
[16:41] <_underscore> Will the ati catalyst 12.10 version work with ubuntu 12.10?  I have amd apu a6.
[16:41] <milen8204> when I start wine>msexcel or virtual box my Ubuntu 11.10 logs off, anyone have an idea what can be done ?
[16:41] <soc42> so any pros on KVM / PVM / MPI / HPC on ubuntu here?
[16:43] <compdoc> qemu-kvm works for me, but its to run servers 24/7. Not for graphics
[16:44] <soc42> compdoc: i also want to dive into queu-kvm as xen will merge into kvm and i don't like virtualbox...
[16:44] <dr_willis> !appdb > mile
[16:44] <_cronus_> richweskus, you could use dmz, port forwarding, or network manager's dsl connection depending on your needs and constraints
[16:45] <dr_willis> !appdb > milen8204
[16:45] <compdoc> virtualbox has its uses, but its not really for 24/7 stuff
[16:45] <soc42> since oracle has taken over java... many things went worse... but that's just my personal impression...
[16:45] <compdoc> xen requires a modified kernel
[16:45] <redamber> Could someone please tell me the ubuntu server LTS chat ?
[16:46] <soc42> compdoc: i am really looking for this stable 24/7 stuff ;o)
[16:46] <OerHeks> redamber, join #ubuntu-server
[16:46] <redamber> than you OerHeks
[16:47] <redamber> #ubuntu-server
[16:47] <OerHeks> redamber, maybe we can help you too
[16:47] <soc42> what are the main diff between server and desktop ubuntu? i guess regarding my requirements i have to dig into the server part...
[16:48] <ThinkT510> soc42: default installed packages
[16:48] <redamber> Well ummm, whenever I try to install 12.04 onto my old hp im either hanging at something trying to install
[16:48] <soc42> ok, just package presets... i see
[16:48] <soc42> compared to debian?
[16:48] <_cronus_> compdoc, i don't think this is the case any more
[16:49] <_cronus_> compdoc, according to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xen anyway
[16:49] <soc42> are there diff between packages / compile issues or absolutely interoperable?
[16:49] <soc42> i mean ubuntu vs. debain...
[16:50] <deadmund> soc42: The difference has become greater over time.
[16:50] <soc42> the debians are very strict to license issues... not so ubuntu?
[16:50] <deadmund> soc42: the closest you'll get is ubuntu and debian testing.  Even that will have numerous package name differences and other small things
[16:51] <deadmund> soc42: Ubuntu is not as strict as debian.
[16:51] <compdoc> _cronus_, well, if I install qemu-kvm and virt-manager from the Ubuntu repos, everything is installed for me. Im sticking with it
[16:51] <davinciad> Finally got it installed had to use the 12.04 text installer then upgrade to 12.10, running great now.
[16:52] <XiaolinDraconis> does unetbootin have to install iso's to root for it to make a menu entry?
[16:53] <MonkeyDust> XiaolinDraconis  yes, i tried it
[16:53] <soc42> what are the diff between the various GUI/X-Window System flavours... regarding e.g. performance / system kernel branding etc...?
[16:53] <soc42> is there something to really be conscious about?
[16:53] <_cronus_> compdoc, i was not implying anything regarding this. just mentioned it because it is a newish feature. sorry if i wasn't clear regarding my intentions
[16:53] <MonkeyDust> XiaolinDraconis  make sure / is big enough
[16:53] <XiaolinDraconis> MonkeyDust, you tried having it install to sdb1?
[16:54] <MonkeyDust> XiaolinDraconis  when unetbootin 'installs' in / , you cannot install it 'for real', i tried it
[16:55] <XiaolinDraconis> MonkeyDust, i made it install to / and it work, thing is i was hoping to boot the iso and move root
[16:55] <fluitfries> soc42, i approach it in terms of needed UI "glitz", and then in needed dependencies for apps i plan to install.  i run lubuntu right now, which is OpenBox.  lightweight.
[16:55] <soc42> are there major diff between 32 and 64 bit regarding e.g. device drivers?
[16:55] <MonkeyDust> XiaolinDraconis  it works all right, but you cannot install for real, from there
[16:55] <XiaolinDraconis> MonkeyDust, i guess im not being clear
[16:56] <soc42> this is a major problem on windows
[16:56] <soc42> even mac os has really a problem with hardware a lot...
[16:56] <fluitfries> soc42, i have not run into that.  tho i may not be the best to answer.  whenever i can use 64, i do.
[16:56] <rozmuq> hi. i'm rdy to install 12.10 ubuntu 64bit..does it comes with kde, gnome and other desktops as an option at the login as mint 13 does, or doesn't?
[16:56] <fluitfries> soc42, i have never had a linux driver issue with 64bit, not that i can remember anyways
[16:56] <soc42> fluitfries: very fast-forward attitude ;o)
[16:56] <OerHeks> XiaolinDraconis, usually you will be asked 2 times for pass, once for installing the iso and once for making it bootable.
[16:57] <deadmund> soc42: I believe in a 64 bit OS that the drivers need to have a wrapper or be completely re-written.
[16:57] <XiaolinDraconis> i dont want to install to /
[16:57] <soc42> fluitfries: that sound like a warm welcome to ubuntu64 ;o)
[16:57] <dr_willis> rozmuq: unty by default. others are installable
[16:57] <XiaolinDraconis> i want to boot the iso from another partition so i an move /
[16:57] <fluitfries> soc42, yea i have used the lubuntu 64, and the lubuntu 64 mac specific images
[16:57] <fluitfries> soc42, no issues on a mac, or an older hp laptop
[16:57] <soc42> deadmund: you're absolutely right!
[16:58] <rozmuq> dr_willis,  and how's this unity, for your opinion?
[16:58] <dr_willis> !unity
[16:58]  * nydel is away: bbs doc
[16:58] <dr_willis> 64 bit has very few ussues here
[16:58] <XiaolinDraconis> unity is nice, its almost like using Gnome DO, just lacking several good features
[16:59] <deadmund> soc42: Why are you asking questions you know the answers to? :P
[17:01] <rozmuq> Does the 12.10 ubuntu is friendly to the new guy as mint 13 is? i mean the installation of a files, founding driver, etc.. i ask those questions because i want to hear it from live people, not some articles i'm not familiar with.
[17:02] <blackops> hello
[17:02] <soc42> it's more about knowing if the driver support is generally good for 64bit compared to 32bit on ubuntu because a lot of companies didn't re-develop or had a deep look on device drive compat issues
[17:03] <area51pilot> rozmuq: 12.10 is fairly straight foward and easy for any new comer
[17:03] <dr_willis> !manual > rozmuq
[17:03] <soc42> deadmund: knowing about the dev process doesn't help to get a glimpse into what's currently supported and more important, what probably is not
[17:04] <fluitfries> soc42, more than not is supported, i'd just test an install on your hardware and see how it goes?
[17:04] <rozmuq> ty all
[17:05] <soc42> fluitfries: yes, that is always the way to go to have the ultimate confirmation ;o)
[17:05] <larulina> hello
[17:06] <bglazer> I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 with an nVidia geforce 8300. Anything that displays video slows the system to a crawl after several minutes. top displays high cpu usage for the process displaying the video (java, chrome, etc). Any ideas?
[17:06] <soc42> ThinkT510: what is the diff in the "alternate install CD" speaking in terms of attached packages?
[17:07] <bglazer> I'm using the nouveau drivers
[17:07] <ThinkT510> soc42: alternate is no longer available with 12.10, it had lvm and raid support
[17:09] <soc42> ThinkT510: k. why did ubuntu have an alternate and why is gone now? i suppose lvm and raid have merged into the server install, right?
[17:10] <ksbalaji> Im on a livecd. HDD damaged. 1gb RAM memory only. Hence Ive removed compiz, oo and some other apps to save memory. I also wish to remove metacity and run something like jwm. Please suggest method. I cannot obviously restart the PC now running 10.4 livecd.
[17:11] <ksbalaji> Ive also installed atop, smem to see mem usage. Any suggestions here please?
[17:11] <NewWorld> ksbalaji:  you want to make a customised livecd?
[17:12] <ksbalaji> NewWorld nope. Just buying time till I get my HDD back.
[17:13] <dr_willis> ksbalaji:  you can do a full normal install to a decent sized usb flash
[17:14] <ksbalaji> dr_willis: I tried. I have a 4gb pendrive and I tried ubiquity. It finished install. But does not boot!
[17:14] <dr_willis> or a persistant save setup
[17:15] <dr_willis> 4gb would barely be big enough
[17:15] <NewWorld> you could put on a distro more suited to liveUSB and low memory - PuppyLinux
[17:15] <dr_willis> persistant save would work.
[17:15] <dr_willis> or tinycorelinyx = 10-35 mb ;)
[17:16] <ksbalaji> dr_willis: But the entire os takes up only about 1gb?
[17:16] <dr_willis> ksbalaji:  havent noticed really. i do full installs to 8+gb flash all the time
[17:16] <_cronus_> ksbalaji, i've used ubuntu 10.4 for over a year on a netbook with 1g of ram without any problem
[17:16] <ksbalaji> dr_willis: how to do persistant save please?
[17:16] <dr_willis> 12.10 is no longer a single cd sized iso
[17:17] <dr_willis> ksbalaji:  that ubuntu disk creator tool can do it
[17:17] <ksbalaji> I repeat -  I am on 10.4 do not have the latest.
[17:17] <dr_willis> 10.04 has same tools.
[17:18] <ksbalaji> dr_willis:
[17:18] <ksbalaji> dr_willis: What option do I take for persistant save?
[17:19] <dr_willis> should be a checkbox/slider. i havebt used 10.04 since 10.10 came out.. ;)
[17:19] <Libertytrader> Hi what is easiest way to upgrade to Ubuntu 12.10 from 12.04 ... I have only USB sticks
[17:19] <ksbalaji> dr_willis: thanks. I shall check up.
[17:19] <dr_willis> Libertytrader:  use the online upgrade method.
[17:19] <ksbalaji> bye all.
[17:19] <Libertytrader> how do you online upgrade?
[17:20] <min|dvir|us> Libertytrader: have you tried Googling?
[17:20] <dr_willis> !upgrade
[17:20] <fr05tbyt3> hello everybody! have a quick question.. I have a headless server with no video that i need an OS on.. does anybody know of a distro that can be install and accessed remotely with no video.. i understand ill have to PXE boot but the remote desktop or ssh thing is whats stopping me
[17:20] <min|dvir|us> So we condone asking on IRC before Googling?
[17:20] <dr_willis> fr05tbyt3:  any you can install ssh on will work
[17:20] <dr_willis> !google
[17:21] <min|dvir|us> dr_willis: fair enough.
[17:21] <fr05tbyt3> right but ill have to ssh to myself to create the key which i cannot do easily with no video on the machine
[17:21] <gordonjcp> fr05tbyt3: have you got serial port access to it?
[17:21] <gordonjcp> fr05tbyt3: actually, scratch that, have you got physical access to the machine?
[17:21] <fr05tbyt3> yes
[17:21] <dr_willis> or plug in a monitor for the 10 min it will take...
[17:22] <fr05tbyt3> im giving it a dirty look as we speak
[17:22] <fr05tbyt3> i don't have a video card for it
[17:22] <fr05tbyt3> it died i think and no other card to replace it and no moneys :(
[17:23] <dr_willis> make a usb flash install that has a ssh server setup. plug it in. boot, ssh to it... dd the usb to the hd. ;)
[17:23] <fr05tbyt3> theres no onboard video either i am extremely videoless on the project
[17:23] <dr_willis> or pull the hd out and put in another box
[17:23] <dr_willis> install then reinstall.
[17:24] <fr05tbyt3> that could work!  im just wondering about the ssh thing cause you have to setup the key b4 you can connect to it which would require video.. maybe telnet? which ive never used
[17:24] <dr_willis> install the os.. set it up.  reinstall the hd
[17:24] <dr_willis> what key?
[17:24] <dr_willis> you can use password to login...
[17:24] <fr05tbyt3> they ssh key thingy.. you have to $ssh localhost  to create a key for ppl to connect
[17:24] <naterh> Is there a way to auto respond to package dialog boxes during the removal of a package?  I have a package that pops up an OK box but I want to remove this package ina script and its failing because of it.
[17:25] <dr_willis> fr05tbyt3:  ive never had to do that....
[17:25] <dr_willis> just insta;l ssssh server
[17:25] <fr05tbyt3> ok thanks guys ill be back!
[17:26] <dr_willis> dont recall ever needing to 'ssh localhost'  beforhand.... ever...
[17:27] <StarryDynamo> I think he's talking about RSA keys?
[17:27] <bricked> how do you configure the mail icon in the panel?
[17:27] <fr05tbyt3> ok im just gonna set the HDD up in a different computer, i just dont have a lot to work with here.. yes the RSA key
[17:28] <dr_willis> dont recall ever needing to 'ssh localhost'  beforhand.... ever...  fr05tbyt3 ..
[17:28] <fr05tbyt3> you have to create that key after installation
[17:28] <dr_willis> you can make a key with the 'keygen' command i recall.
[17:28] <fr05tbyt3> pretty sure
[17:28] <StarryDynamo> You only need RSA keys if you've disabled password login in the sshd.conf
[17:28] <fr05tbyt3> ok
[17:28] <dr_willis> i install sshd. i ssh in as my user.. enter their password...
[17:28] <StarryDynamo> But as stated above, there is no need or reason to ssh the localhost
[17:29] <dr_willis> done.. make a key and use ssh-copy-id if i want to
[17:29] <fr05tbyt3> im gonna power down and try some stuff
[17:29] <StarryDynamo> That's just redundant.
[17:29] <cebor> hi, i use ubuntu 12.10 and "the turn off screen time" hase no effect!
[17:29] <eankele> fr05tbyt3 : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/NetworkConsole   may help you also
[17:31] <Jagst3r15> where can I propose a featured Idea?
[17:31] <fr05tbyt3> ty ty
[17:31] <Fosco999> I just installed ubuntu 12.04 and i am trying to get back to my old settings with gdm, how can i add a "system" tab to the main nav bar?  and how can i allow left clicking in the main menu? i think i have to press alt then click every time
[17:32] <deadmund> Jagst3r15: there is a system called 'ubuntu ideas'
[17:32] <deadmund> Jagst3r15: what is your idea?
[17:32] <deadmund> Jagst3r15: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/
[17:33] <dr_willis> Fosco999:  with 'gdm' ? you mean with the unity desktop or the gnome classic desktop?
[17:33] <wilee-nilee> Fosco999, There is a fallback desktop that is similar to gnome 2 is that what you are looking for?
[17:33] <Fosco999> dr_willis, gnome classic
[17:34] <Fosco999> wilee-nilee, do you mean changing to gnome at the login screen?
[17:34] <wilee-nilee> Fosco999, Gnome is the shell.
[17:35] <oal> Any ideas why some windows look like this after installing a new theme? http://i.imgur.com/pNXdz.png
[17:35] <wilee-nilee> Fosco999, If you installed the shell the fallback is there I forget its actual name there.
[17:35] <bazhang> Fosco999, install gnome-panel
[17:35] <xangua> oal: looks like you were playing with the inverse plugin of compiz to me
[17:36] <Fosco999> bazhang, i am going to try that thanks
[17:36] <oal> xangua: haven't touched any compiz settings. It only happens in the terminal and software center so far...
[17:37] <yaaic> jes
[17:38] <sergio_> hallo
[17:39] <jud> ciao a tutti
[17:42] <billkd> having issues with pulse audio on quantal. Dummy output is the only listed audio device and I need the orca screen reader to use the desktop. I'm stuck in a CLI at the moment because of this. Any suggestions?
[17:43] <bricked> how do you configure the notifier icon in the top left?
[17:46] <wilee-nilee> bricked, Which release which desktop?
[17:46] <bricked> Unity 12.10
[17:46] <bricked> i dont even know what the thing is called
[17:46] <billkd> panel?
[17:46] <bricked> the notifier icon looks like a letter
[17:47] <billkd> edit the config file for your wm
[17:47] <trism> bricked: indicator-messages
[17:47] <trism> bricked: what are you trying to configure?
[17:47] <farmlife>  How can I import the Firefox bookmarks on the Windows XP partition, while in Linux partition?
[17:47] <bricked> trijntje, how to add gmail and perhaps know what the darn thing is
[17:47] <loadid> farmlife: fdisk -l
[17:48] <billkd> share the profile between the main system and the windows VM. look in the virtualbox shareed folders.
[17:48] <bricked> it has status options which i have no idea what status it is refering to
[17:48] <billkd> empathy
[17:48] <Fosco999> farmlife, if i remember correctly, there should be a folder in the windows system with your bookmarks in html files
[17:48] <dr_willis> farmlife:  find the bookmarks.html file and use the import feature i recall. easier to use firefox's sync feature
[17:48] <farmlife> Fosco999: i see. any idea where to look?
[17:48] <billkd> he can share the folder of his windows guest to his linux host with shared folders.
[17:49] <farmlife> dr_willis: how can i find the bookmarks.html file?
[17:49] <zetheroo> does anyone here use Pidgin to make audio calls with their google account?
[17:49] <billkd> %userprofile%\appdata I think. Look in there.
[17:49] <dr_willis> farmlife:  should bein your useres directory somewhere i imagine
[17:49] <farmlife> dr_willis: Fosco999 if i can't get the bookmarks from Linux, i'll boot up into WinXP
[17:49] <Fosco999> farmlife, documents and settings/<user>/application data/firefox? sorry I'm not on a windows machine, it also depends what windows version
[17:49] <billkd> now, how can I fix my pulseaudio?
[17:50] <dr_willis> or boot to xp, export them. save them to  ubuntuone for safe keeping. ;)
[17:50] <wilee-nilee> farmlife, Firefox has a built in sync if you would like both to read the same.
[17:50] <dr_willis> or learn to setup the firefox sync feature
[17:50] <Fosco999> farmlife, just mount the windows partition, if youre having trouble you are missing the ntfs driver
[17:50] <billkd> if you can't help me fix itwhere should I go?
[17:50] <Fosco999> probably missing*
[17:51] <billkd> apt-get install ntfs-3g if it's missing.
[17:51] <farmlife> wilee-nilee: Fosco999 sync sounds good
[17:51] <billkd> as root of course
[17:51] <dr_willis> billkd:  theres a few people in here that are good with sound trouble shooting. or theres the forums and askubuntu.com
[17:51] <dr_willis> ntfs-3g is  installed by default ;)
[17:52] <billkd> ok well how can we fix it then if people in here can?
[17:52] <RayzrShrp> anyone gotten ubuntu 12.04 working under vmware workstation 9 without the sound causing errors at startup?
[17:52] <dr_willis> RayzrShrp: 'the sound?'
[17:52] <loadid> appdata/roaming/mozilla/firefox/ farmlife
[17:53] <RayzrShrp> dr_willis: yeah it shows a little window saying the sound is disabled due to it using something that is out of range
[17:53] <dr_willis> RayzrShrp:  not heard of thaaat issue.
[17:53] <loadid> are your audio settings in your vm settings configured RayzrShrp?
[17:53] <dr_willis> the login screen says this? or the useres desktop?
[17:53] <jskwarek> anyone familiar with ssh and ubuntu? I can't ssh into my ubuntu vm. I keep getting a connection timeout. please help!
[17:53] <loadid> maybe need to set to pulse instead of alsa?
[17:54] <billkd> sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[17:54] <RayzrShrp> loadid: yeah in vmware its just set to autodetect
[17:54] <dr_willis> jskwarek:  check the server logs and yes. you did install sshd?
[17:54] <billkd> jskwarek apt-get install openssh-server
[17:54] <loadid> maybe it is autoselecting wrong RayzrShrp, pick one and try again
[17:55] <RayzrShrp> ill mess with it here
[17:55] <billkd> how can I fix pulseaudio so my audio device is recognised andstays recognised?
[17:55] <RayzrShrp> debian is working
[17:55] <jskwarek> i've installed sshd
[17:55] <Fosco999> how can i add hotkeys to 12.04?
[17:55] <RayzrShrp> so must be something with how ubuntu is trying to use the sound
[17:55] <billkd> jskwarek : try /etc/init.d/sshd restart
[17:55] <loadid> billkd: create an .asoundrc file?
[17:56] <billkd> Fosco999 : look in gnome-control-center
[17:56] <josy1982> hello is there a chan for ubuntu gnome remix?
[17:57] <dr_willis> what an awkward name for a distro. ;)
[17:57] <DustSwirl> hi guys, I have an issue with my laptop sound
[17:57] <jrib> ubuntu gnome remix dubstep
[17:57] <billkd> DustSwirl : I do too
[17:57] <iupo> ciao
[17:57] <iupo> !list
[17:57] <dr_willis> argh another lister! ;)
[17:57] <loadid> ubuntu gnome remix ft. unity
[17:58] <jrib> ... from /italy/
[17:58] <dr_willis> iupo:  you just automatically !list every channel you join?
[17:58] <Fosco999> in 12.04 is there a way to allow me to just left click things like a panel, instead of pressing alt and clicking?
[17:58] <trism> josy1982: #ubuntu-gnome
[17:58] <josy1982> thx
[17:58] <iupo> quit
[17:58] <iupo> !quit
[17:58] <loadid> try / lupo
[17:58] <dr_willis> iupo:  try /quit
[17:59] <dr_willis> annoy the !listers ;)
[17:59] <fluitfries> anyone using sylpheed for mail?  how do i edit the signature?!
[17:59] <BluesKaj> !it | iupo,
[17:59] <josy1982_> hello does anybody know where i can get ubuntu gnome remix 12.10?
[17:59] <wilee-nilee> dr_willis, ciao. ;)
[17:59] <dr_willis> josy1982:  check their website or distrowatch websitr
[17:59] <jskwarek> billkd no such file
[18:00] <BluesKaj> BBL
[18:00] <dr_willis> wilee-nilee:  or send them a list of ubuntu torrents...
[18:00] <billkd> !kust
[18:01] <billkd> !help
[18:01] <billkd> !pacience
[18:01] <billkd> !patience
[18:01] <jskwarek> billkd: no such file
[18:01] <savio> hello
[18:01] <wilee-nilee> dr_willis, hehe yeah.
[18:01] <billkd> !list
[18:02] <wilee-nilee> josy1982, http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/prefer-gnome-shell-download-ubuntu.html
[18:02] <loadid> josy1982: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/ReleaseNotes/12.10Beta
[18:02] <dr_willis> josy1982:  thats not an offiicial ubuntu flavor.. yet..
[18:03] <jskwarek> anyone know about ssh and ubuntu? I get a connection timeout when attempting to ssh to my ubuntu vm
[18:04] <wilee-nilee> !ssh
[18:04] <dr_willis> jskwarek:  you checked the server logs yet?
[18:04] <dr_willis> can you ping the vm>
[18:04] <dr_willis> can it ping the  client...
[18:04] <jskwarek> I haven't checked. don't know what to look for. ping seems to work from my machine yes, but not any others on the network
[18:05] <dr_willis> ssh -vvv server    may give info also
[18:05] <dr_willis> can the others ssh to the server?
[18:05] <jskwarek> nobody can ssh
[18:05] <jskwarek> heres the log
[18:05] <jskwarek> OpenSSH_6.0p1 Debian-3ubuntu1, OpenSSL 1.0.1c 10 May 2012
[18:06] <dr_willis> can the server ssh to itself via localhost, or its ip, or its hostname...
[18:06] <jskwarek> let me try
[18:06] <Pichy> can anyon help me get my touchscreen working?
[18:06] <iupo> belve
[18:06] <DustSwirl> Hi guys, please help me, I have an issue with my system sound
[18:06] <DustSwirl> I use ubuntu 12.04 on a hp dv7 6165us. this laptop has 4 speakers, two at left, two at right, plus a small subwoofer, all with the beatsaudio brand.
[18:07] <DustSwirl> the problem is that the two additional speakers and the subwoofer won't work, thus making my music bassless
[18:07] <tejas> can anyone hep me with removing unity from 12.04 please write !NoUnity
[18:07] <jskwarek> yes looks like I can ssh to its own ip from within
[18:08] <loadid> DustSwirl: beatsaudio sounds proprietary
[18:08] <dr_willis> tejas:  what do you plan on using instead?
[18:08] <tejas> I want lucid type look in 12.04
[18:08] <eankele> jskwarek - how is networking configured on vm - bridged or nat?
[18:09] <MonkeyDust> tejas  if you don't like unity, easiest is to install some other DE -- logout, select other DE, login
[18:09] <jskwarek> i've tried both. right now its bridged.
[18:09] <wilee-nilee> Pichy, I just found #ubuntu-touch rather small channel though.
[18:09] <MonkeyDust> tejas  fallback/classic looks very much like gnome2, i use it
[18:09] <Pichy> i have a usb touschscreen loaded as mouse*
[18:10] <tejas> how to use gnome2 in precise Monkeydust help me
[18:10] <wilee-nilee> Pichy, This link as well. http://www.thefanclub.co.za/how-to/how-ubuntu-1204-touchscreen-calibration
[18:10] <MonkeyDust> tejas  classic is gnome3, but is very similar to gnome2
[18:10] <xangua> tejas: you do not, gnome2 is no longer maintained
[18:10] <eankele> jskwarek - can you ping vm from other workstations?
[18:10] <loadid> DustSwirl: Add "options snd-hda-intel model=ref" at the end of /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[18:10] <DustSwirl> well loadid, I think is a config issue, since if I plug some good quality earphones, the sound is just fine, and also on win7 the same happened till I was able to install the IDT HD codec drivers
[18:11] <MonkeyDust> tejas  ubuntu classic => http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-fpdM3UOam3Y/TzW6lrA9yNI/AAAAAAAAHuQ/5Wf9Xum-oxQ/s1600/ubuntu12.04-classic-session.png
[18:11] <jskwarek> eankele: no
[18:11] <tejas> xangua what to do now...12.04 unity complicated
[18:11] <loadid> DustSwirl: alsa drivers are loaded, you just need to enable the correct module
[18:12] <Pichy> wilee-nilee thanks
[18:12] <wilee-nilee> Pichy, No problem hope that helps.
[18:12] <eankele> jskwarek workstation and vm on the same subnet?
[18:12] <loadid> DustSwirl: after you edit the alsa-base file you may need to reboot
[18:12] <DustSwirl> I'll try that loadid. will be back in a couple minutes
[18:12] <jskwarek> eankele idk, lemme check
[18:13] <tejas> Monkeydust I need to remaster 12.04 so need to make 12.04 looks simple can you help me remove unity
[18:13] <MonkeyDust> tejas  if you don't like unity, easiest is to install some other DE -- logout, select other DE, login
[18:13] <MonkeyDust> tejas  some other DE ... classic
[18:14] <tejas> I want to remove the sidebar..it sucks
[18:14] <petisnnake> hi, what's the difference between python and python-dev packages
[18:14] <MonkeyDust> tejas  i told you twice what to do, please follow the instructions
[18:15] <trism> petisnnake: python-dev is for building c extensions to python
[18:15] <tejas> ok...Monkeydust :)
[18:15] <jskwarek> eankele: it would appear they are not. Windows host is on 255.255.248.0 and VM Ubuntu is 255.255.255.240
[18:15] <Shahrooz> Good day everybody
[18:15] <starscreem> guys
[18:16] <starscreem> how to fix the grub?
[18:16] <loadid> hello Shahrooz
[18:16] <starscreem> not showing up on dual boot
[18:16] <loadid> starscreem: update-grub
[18:16] <orzen> Hi, can anyone recommend a good how-to for installing nvidia graphic drivers? (im running 12.10 on a laptop with hybrid graphic card setup, the nvidia card is a geforce 210M)
[18:16] <starscreem> through live disk????
[18:16] <iwo> hi, is it possible to use an ubuntu 12.10 cd to 'repair a broken system'?
[18:16] <loadid> depends starscreem, where can you get to?
[18:16] <iwo> this option used to be present on the alternate cd
[18:16] <wilee-nilee> tejas, Unity itself is rather small, it is a plugin in compiz running on top of gnome 3, best and easiest way to go is to just install another desktop, and as the mafioso say forget about it.
[18:16] <eankele> jskwarek - start there,I am thinking they should be in the same subnet.
[18:17] <starscreem> ummm.......i can get into the live disk
[18:17] <iwo> i tried to upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10 and i have ended up with a pretty broken system
[18:17] <jskwarek> eankele: config file? Also should VM network settings be bridged or nat?
[18:17] <iwo> can i use the 12.10 desktop cd to repair?
[18:17] <loadid> it happens iwo, where can you get to?
[18:18] <Shahrooz> anyone knows a software that could increese saturation of the screen ? I tried CompizConfig but its not enough, in windows I have Intel Control Panel by default and it lets you to add as much saturation as you need. I need something like that. any idea ? :)
[18:18] <Pichy> i believe the problem with my touchscreen has not much to do with the calibration, rather than my system is thinking it is a mouse intead of a touchscreen
[18:18] <iwo> loadid: first attempt to upgrade produced an error installing libdrm2... then i had a broken apt which kept saying something like 'No filename for package xxx'
[18:18] <iwo> so i installed the package it couldn't find using dpkg
[18:18] <Fleep> I have a system account that I may have created in a funky way. Whenever I `su` into it, it has no styled prompt, no tab-completion, and it doesn't seem to process its .bashrc / .profile configs. It doesn't know about the `source` command either. Is there a good way to un-bunk this account?
[18:18] <petisnnake> why does writing $ python open the interactive shell for python 2.6.6, even though /usr/bin/python points to /usr/bin/python2.7?
[18:19] <wilee-nilee> iwo, Without some details of what is broken we can only guess, which most here I hope wont do.
[18:19] <eankele> jskwarek - it depends on which subnet mask is wrong. I do not know your environment. I would do bridged as it is easier to troubleshoot. If you need nat, remember to also port forward on host system.
[18:19] <loadid> iwo, try to apt-get -f install
[18:19] <iwo> managed to manually fix the problem with libdrm2 and continue using apt-get -f upgrade, apt-get -f dist-upgrade...
[18:19] <DustSwirl> hey loadid, I'm the guy with the sound issue, and I'm affraid your suggestion didn't work
[18:19] <trism> petisnnake: which python; maybe you have a version in /usr/local/ ?
[18:19] <jskwarek> nat seems to work better for cifs mount. what port to forward?
[18:19] <loadid> ok DustSwirl
[18:19] <iwo> loadid: my apt is now happy again, no more packages or dependencies to install...
[18:20] <dr_willis> Fleep:  sopy the files from /etc/skel if you want it ttto have those files
[18:20] <dr_willis> copy...
[18:20] <Fleep> dr_willis: danke schoen
[18:20] <eankele> jwkwarek port 22 from the host ip to the vm's port 22 for ssh to work.
[18:20] <LiquidDemocracy> Can I upgrade to the latest version of Ubuntu if I have the ISO file but not Internet access?
[18:20] <iwo> but i see lots of errors popping up when i use ubuntu now (asking me to report a system error)...
[18:20] <iwo> and unity does not appear :<
[18:20] <Pichy> at /proc/bus/input/devices I can se the touchscreen generating a mouse0 event
[18:20] <dr_willis> LiquidDemocracy:  mount the .iso and i think you can
[18:20] <iwo> i see just my a background, no launcher, and no window chrome when i open apps
[18:21] <wilee-nilee> LiquidDemocracy, YOu can use grub to boot it, do you want a link?
[18:21] <iwo> i can still use ctrl-alt-t to open a terminal, but it has no borders
[18:21] <DustSwirl> loadid: maybe you have another suggestion?
[18:21] <loadid> DustSwirl: try snd-hda-intel model=hp-zephyr instead
[18:21] <iwo> (apps have no chrome)
[18:21] <loadid> iwo, glad that worked
[18:21] <DustSwirl> should I erase the previous string?
[18:22] <Fleep> dr_willis: Copied the files, but the account doesn't seem to want to process them. And still doesn't know where `source` is, so I can't manually execute them.
[18:22] <loadid> yeah dust, it didn't work
[18:22] <loadid> DustSwirl: ^
[18:22] <DustSwirl> ok, let's see...
[18:22] <iwo> loadid: sorry, apt-get has been happy for a day, i managed to -f my way (with some manual package installs too) back to a semi working system
[18:22] <Shahrooz> any idea for me ?
[18:22] <iwo> but something is severely wrong with unity
[18:22] <cebor> I cant set the Time for the Screen TurnOff while inactive !  (Ubuntu 12.10)
[18:23] <DustSwirl> loadid, can you please remember me the file I have to edit?
[18:23] <iwo> no launcher, no window chrome... lots of 'System error has occurred' messages whenever i log in
[18:23] <loadid> DustSwirl: /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[18:23] <iwo> so - back to the original question - is it still possible to 'repair a broken
[18:23] <loadid> DustSwirl: never forget the last file you edited
[18:23] <DustSwirl> thanks
[18:23] <iwo> system via the ubuntu cd?
[18:24] <iwo> (12.12)
[18:24] <iwo> (12.10)
[18:24] <iwo> i mean
[18:24] <loadid> cheers
[18:24] <wilee-nilee> iwo, depends on whats broken.
[18:24] <Shahrooz> anyone knows a software that could increese saturation of the screen ? I tried CompizConfig but its not enough, in windows I have Intel Control Panel by default and it lets you to add as much saturation as you need. I need something like that. any idea ? :)
[18:25] <iwo> wilee-nilee: well, for a start, does this option exist anywhere via the install process?
[18:25] <Lucis> Hey guys, is this the right channel for a question about tasksel errors ?
[18:25] <dr_willis> Fleep:  see hat the default shell is for the account
[18:25] <loadid> Shahrooz: what kind of video card do you have?
[18:26] <Fleep> dr_willis: Where would I find that?
[18:26] <dr_willis> Fleep:  or try running 'bash'
[18:26] <Fleep> K
[18:26] <dr_willis> fleep chsh command
[18:26] <Shahrooz> its a Intel HD integerated and a Nvidia GT540M, Ubuntu uses the Intel one by default.
[18:27] <Fleep> dr_willis: Thanks! Changing that to /bin/bash fixed all. Many thanks.
[18:27] <loadid> you should enable the nvidia, would probably get better graphics, and then could adjust saturation from nvidia-settings
[18:27] <loadid> Shahrooz: ^
[18:27] <Lucis> guys im trying to setup a LAMP server ( first timer) but tasksel keeps returning an aptitude (100) error
[18:28] <wilee-nilee> iwo, What a magical repair click. ;)
[18:28] <Sicp> WAT. Ubuntu-tweak's "User folder" area under the "Admins" section allows you to change the location of the folders inside your Home directory?
[18:28] <jrib> Lucis: use apt-get install ^lamp-server  (or close to that :x)
[18:28] <Shahrooz> loadid I tried many times but its impossible. I get blank screen, deletex xserver, ...
[18:28] <Sicp> that's so useless! I thought it would allow you to map these directories to other ones!
[18:28] <jrib> Sicp: not sure what you mean.  What do you want to accomplish?
[18:28] <Lucis> jrib, im afraid that does not help. since im not able to select anything in the 'gui' i allready did it that way. I also ran dkpg --configure -a and apt-get update
[18:29] <DustSwirl> loadid: that didn'work either...
[18:29] <Sicp> I ..mentioned what I wanted to accomplish; I'm just stating a fail in a software
[18:29] <Sicp> aside from that, Ubuntu-tweak is awesome
[18:29] <jrib> Lucis: what do you mean by "that way"?  Also, why does it not help?  What happens exactly?  What's your current state?
[18:29] <jrib> Sicp: so you don't have a question?
[18:29] <Shahrooz> loadid: I tried the driver ubuntu recommends and it adds the nvidia cpanel but as I run it, I have errors about xserver, this is a very fresh ubuntu  just installed. I tried every method and technique in web but I get no result.
[18:29] <Sicp> I do not.
[18:30] <jrib> Sicp: ok, keep in mind this channel is for answering and asking support questions related to ubuntu.  Other topics we welcome in #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[18:30] <soc42> cya #ubuntu
[18:30] <Sicp> great, Smokey
[18:30] <soc42> ... and thanks for all the fish ;o)
[18:30] <Lucis> jrib: that way is the tasksel install lamp-server , my current status is i allways get an error aptitude (100) .. there is no additional information
[18:30] <bazhang> Sicp, ubuntu-tweak from the PPA? thats not supported here. contact the PPA maintainer
[18:30] <jrib> Lucis: you always get an error aptitude (100) when doing what?
[18:31] <loadid> Shahrooz: have you tried apt-get install nvidia-173 sometimes you need to force an alternate version of the nvidia drivers
[18:31] <loadid> and if that doesn't work nvidia-96 or nvidia-current
[18:31] <Lucis> jrib: when i run the command #tasksel install lamp-server
[18:31] <jrib> Lucis: right, so don't run that?
[18:31] <iwo> wilee-nilee: the ubuntu alternate disc used to include an option 'Repair a broken system'
[18:31] <iwo> i'm wondering if this option still exists (since the alternate disc is no more)
[18:31] <Lucis> jrib i kinda need to run it to get the lamp server installed right?
[18:32] <DustSwirl> hey loadid, you might be a bit busy, thank you anyway for your suggestions, I'll try the forums
[18:32] <loadid> iwo, it still exists of sorts
[18:32] <jrib> Lucis: right, so try the apt-get form?
[18:32] <loadid> dust, i'll keep looking around
[18:32] <loadid> DustSwirl: ^
[18:32] <Lucis> jrib: so apt-get install tasksel lamp-server?
[18:32] <jrib> Lucis: no
[18:32] <Lucis> jrib ah, leave the tasksel out
[18:33] <jrib> Lucis: apt-get install lamp-server^
[18:33] <Shahrooz> loadid I'm not sure about that, but I did try the driver that nvidia website offers for linux and it gave me blank screen. installing the driver like you said is safe ? I mean what if I get black screen ?
[18:33] <soman> hi all. Ubuntu 12.04 after games my screen resolution becames 640x480? what is the problem and how can I change it via terminal?
[18:34] <iwo> loadid: so how do i get to it?
[18:34] <petisnnake> I installed python2.7 with apt, but now pip / virtualenv don't work, so I reverted to python.2.6.6. What do I need to install so that it contains all the necessary packages for pip / virtualenv to work?
[18:34] <Lucis> jrib: returns errors, ill get pastebin , sec
[18:34] <loadid> it's part of the gamble Shahrooz, you should be able to drop to a shell and remove which ever packages you installed.
[18:34] <varikonniemi> soman, i think log out and in is easiest?
[18:34] <jrib> petisnnake: what ubuntu version?
[18:34] <loadid> iwo, recovery mode
[18:34] <Lucis> jrib: http://pastebin.com/NUiShqhd
[18:35] <petisnnake> jrib: 11
[18:35] <varikonniemi> i have played only one game on 12.10 that also set resolution to 640 but after it quit the desktop changed back to original. So maybe x server got smarter
[18:35] <Shahrooz> loadid, well I can but last time I did it, it removed the entier xserver xD hehe I'm installing it right now. let see what happens
[18:35] <jrib> Lucis: you need to stop whatever other dpkg/apt process is running
[18:36] <iwo> loadid: does recovery mode include any way to replace the system files with a fresh installation? (like the old 'repair a broken system' option on the alternate cd)
[18:36] <jrib> petisnnake: no such thing as 11.  Only 11.04 and 11.10
[18:36] <iwo> i haven't seen that
[18:36] <soman> varikonniemi: maybe... xrandr -s 0 helps
[18:36] <Lucis> jrib: so i need to display the processes that dpkg/apt is running. lets google
[18:36] <iwo> (any option to do that i mean)
[18:36] <petisnnake> jrib: sorry, 11.04
[18:36] <loadid> i'm sure it does iwo
[18:36] <varikonniemi> soman, could be :
[18:37] <iwo> loadid: so where does it get the packages from?
[18:37] <jrib> petisnnake: you know 11.04 will be EOL very soon?
[18:37] <loadid> from whatever is listed in /etc/apt/sources.list iwo
[18:37] <jrib> Lucis: you don't have update manager or the install programs gui running perhaps?
[18:37] <iwo> loadid: well, that's not much like the 'repair' option from the alternate cd :)
[18:37] <loadid> usually the cd during install or the main ubuntu repository once it's online
[18:38] <Fukusama> hello
[18:38] <petisnnake> jrib: yes, but that is completely not the issue I came here for :)
[18:38] <Lucis> jrib: the entire idea of working with linux is learning :) guis dont learn me anything :(
[18:38] <jpds> Lucis: teach you anything. :)
[18:38] <jrib> Lucis: that's fine, but they need to be closed
[18:39] <jrib> petisnnake: you have python-pip installed?
[18:39] <Lucis> jpds, indeed thx
[18:39] <trond-> I have a server that for some reason just goes into some - "I just keep running, but you cannot access me" mode and no-one else can either. Where can find out what the .... happened. I have to hard reboot the server to do anything with it.
[18:39] <Lucis> jrib: yes im looking into how to do thatt now.
[18:39] <loadid> DustSwirl: options snd-hda-intel model=hp-dv7-4000
[18:40] <reuf> how do i access nautilius file information from bash
[18:40] <petisnnake> jrib: yes, I do
[18:40] <reuf> nautilus has some api for accessing file info and manipulating files from bash
[18:40] <starscreem> best os for home server???
[18:40] <bekks> reuf: Does it?
[18:40] <jrib> petisnnake: and what python interpreter packages do you have installed?
[18:41] <bekks> starscreem: Depends on your requirements.
[18:41] <starscreem> basic......blog hosting
[18:41] <cyrusgod> Hi there, anyone knows when kernel 3.7 stable will be release ?
[18:41] <petisnnake> jrib: python2.6 and pytohn2.7
[18:41] <jrib> reuf: gvfs-* mayhaps?
[18:41] <ubuntu> gfdg
[18:41] <bekks> cyrusgod: About 90 days after the 3.7-rc1 release.
[18:41] <cyrusgod> bekks: :O wowww
[18:41] <Guest16713> fuck you off
[18:42] <reuf> jrib: yes thats the one, thank you - i coudlnt remember its name
[18:42] <jrib> !language | Guest16713
[18:42] <Guest16713> fuck you
[18:42] <starscreem> wow
[18:42] <starscreem> dude.....guest......u need to calm down
[18:42] <cyrusgod> bekks: to much time :/ i have an zenbook ux32vd, and i have very problems with ubuntu
[18:43] <bekks> cyrusgod: Nothing in this world will make it happen faster.
[18:43] <RayzrShrp> so are people happy with unity?
[18:43] <cyrusgod> bekks: heheh ok thnks for the help
[18:43] <juancarlospaco> hello, hola
[18:43] <bazhang> !ot | RayzrShrp
[18:43] <RayzrShrp> or are people finding ways to not run it
[18:43] <starscreem> unity in my opinion is sad
[18:43] <petisnnake> jrib: wll?
[18:43] <bazhang> !notunity | RayzrShrp
[18:43] <jrib> petisnnake: what does "wll" mean?
[18:43] <juancarlospaco> :)
[18:44] <petisnnake> jrib: well* ?
[18:45] <jrib> petisnnake: when you say pip/virtualenv "don't work", what do you mean?
[18:45] <cebor> ubuntu.com down ???
[18:45] <Fukusama> no
[18:45] <h00k> cebor: works from here :)
[18:45] <jrib> cebor: http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/
[18:45] <RayzrShrp> i know i can vnc into ubuntu systems but frankly i feel its lacking compared to remote desktop on windows 7, is there a better way to remote access the x windows environment on ubuntu?
[18:45] <cebor> cant ping
[18:45] <RayzrShrp> i tried xrdp
[18:46] <kostkon> cebor, http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ubuntu.com
[18:46] <cebor> hmm
[18:46] <RayzrShrp> but for some reason the desktop wallpaper never loads
[18:46] <jrib> RayzrShrp: how do you find it lacking?
[18:46] <petisnnake> jrib: When using /usr/bin/python links to /usr/bin/python2.7, I get a  pkg_resources.DistributionNotFound: virtualenv==1.7.2 exception when trying to initialize a virtual env
[18:46] <RayzrShrp> jrib: just seems slower and less responsive
[18:46] <Lucis> jpds, i can display running processes with pas aux | less... but how do i know which PID's to quit. the error message does not give me such info
[18:46] <RayzrShrp> jrib: with remote desktop its snappy and responds quickly
[18:47] <Lucis> jrib: ps*
[18:47] <bekks> Lucis: Sp which program is causing problems?
[18:47] <Lucis> bekks http://pastebin.com/NUiShqhd      when i run apt-get install lamp-server^
[18:47] <jrib> Lucis: you shouldn't be killing any processes.  Have you found another dpkg/apt process running?  Perhaps update manager or some other gui?
[18:47] <juancarlospaco> QUESTION: partial migration of autocad studio, they got 1 server hi-end, 5 pc low-end, networked LAN, i will intall ubuntu on the PCs, server must remain Windows because of autocad, they cant use other soft, what you recommend to be able to use server apps on the 5 pcs?, rdesktop?, virtualbox?
[18:48] <bekks> Lucis: Pastebin the output ps -aux please.
[18:48] <jrib> RayzrShrp: you could try freenx
[18:48] <Lucis> jrib: lets see if i can find a program that displays that.
[18:48] <RayzrShrp> jrib: what is that
[18:48] <jrib> petisnnake: what's the default python on 11.04?
[18:48] <RayzrShrp> jrib: oh you mean nomachine
[18:48] <jrib> RayzrShrp: yes
[18:48] <jrib> !freenx | RayzrShrp
[18:48] <pauser> hi, my wireless card is connected in main board over usb. now when i activate it my mouse(over usb) works very slow. i there any thing i can do to fix it ?
[18:49] <omar> hola
[18:49] <RayzrShrp> jrib: yeah ive used that in the past with good results but the newer versions of ubuntu seem to not work as well
[18:49] <jrib> RayzrShrp: I see
[18:49] <omar> i need help
[18:49] <RayzrShrp> jrib: the toolbar with close,minimize and maxamize are missing
[18:49] <jrib> !vnc | RayzrShrp
[18:49] <jrib> RayzrShrp: there are various vnc options too
[18:49] <Lucis> bekks: http://pastebin.com/vrX72g71
[18:49] <loadid> try an alternate usb port pauser
[18:49] <omar> alguien me puede ayudar
[18:50] <pauser> loadid: same thing !
[18:50] <reuf> question when
[18:50] <reuf> file is downloaded from
[18:50] <reuf> Chromium
[18:50] <loadid> and as soon as you disconnect things go back to normal pauser?
[18:50] <bekks> Lucis: Do you use sudo?
[18:50] <Shahrooz> is this Conky application still usable ? I tried installing it but I failed :\
[18:50] <pauser> loadid: yes when i disable the wireless
[18:51] <trism> Shahrooz: what is the error?
[18:51] <bekks> Lucis: Without sudo, you will get error messages similar to yours
[18:51] <Lucis> bekks: atm im just logged in as root.
[18:51] <bekks> Lucis: OUCH.
[18:51] <Lucis> bekks not a good idea huh -_-
[18:51] <loadid> conky, i think i remember that program, shows system stats & such Shahrooz?
[18:51] <bekks> Lucis: The worst you could have had.
[18:51] <c_smith> Lucis, far from a good idea
[18:52] <jrib> Lucis: you're logged into the gui as root?
[18:52] <c_smith> Lucis, root is disabled from Ubuntu for several reasons.
[18:52] <bekks> Lucis: Whats the output of lsb_release -sc ?
[18:52] <Shahrooz> no error, I tried sudo apt-get install conky-all and something installed, but nothing added to my menus
[18:52] <coreGrl> hi
[18:52] <Lucis> bekks, c_smith: no , i am aware of the dangers of surfing as root etc. and when on backtrack allways create a none root user. but on ubuntu just a standard user that is added to the admin group, but for easy working i just logged root in cli
[18:53] <coreGrl> running df says that my / is at 100% but doing a df -h the sum is not , what's happening?
[18:53] <Spellanser> hey, can somebody tell about ubuntu 12.10
[18:53] <Shahrooz> trism: no error, I tried sudo apt-get install conky-all and something installed, but nothing added to my menus
[18:53] <jrib> coreGrl: pastebin
[18:53] <bekks> Lucis: So you configured a password for root before.
[18:53] <jrib> !12.10 | Spellanser
[18:53] <trism> Shahrooz: you run it when your session starts, and configure it in ~/.conkyrc
[18:53] <trism> Shahrooz: just run: conky; in the terminal to see the default
[18:54] <Spellanser> how many bugs it have?
[18:54] <ikonia> coreGrl: please pastebin the output of the command "df -h"
[18:54] <bekks> Lucis: So whats the output of lsb_release -sc please?
[18:54] <Lucis> bekks yes, the first thing i did on ubuntu when i noticed i couldnt log into root. im following a guide called 'linuxfun' which started with pwd and cd and ends at networkadministration.. and i need root for it now and then
[18:54] <Lucis> bekks: sec, pasting it
[18:54] <bekks> Lucis: Thats what sudo was invented for.
[18:55] <ikonia> Lucis: sudo -i is all you need
[18:55] <ikonia> Lucis: you don't need root, infact root can cause you problems on ubuntu
[18:55] <Lucis> quantal
[18:55] <coreGrl> ikonia, jrib http://pastebin.com/xJnyFNi2
[18:55] <Lucis> bekks quantal
[18:55] <loadid> root? cause problems?
[18:55] <bekks> loadid: Yes.
[18:55] <Shahrooz> trism: conky is stuck at drawing to single buffer
[18:55] <loadid> root doesn't kill people, guns do
[18:55] <ikonia> coreGrl: dev/disk/by-uuid/402ebdf2-595c-4056-b9c5-83dd43d3e9f8  19222656  18824284         0 100% /
[18:55] <ikonia> coreGrl: it's %100 full
[18:55] <bekks> loadid: root may introduce security issues, root may mess up permissions.
[18:56] <Lucis> ikonia, bekks, i dont see how root is that different from using sudo.. xcept for the fact that if you screw something up that a sudo wouldnt have rights to do .. then you can prolly reinstall
[18:56] <bekks> loadid: For most users, thats worse than a gun.
[18:56] <coreGrl> ikonia, yes but it doesn't seems making the sum of du -s *
[18:56] <ikonia> Lucis: if you don't see any difference, why not just use sudo
[18:56] <ikonia> coreGrl: you can't work it like that
[18:56] <loadid> why not just sudo su
[18:56] <Shahrooz> trism: isn't there something like conky but with real GUI ?
[18:56] <Lucis> ikonia: i have to type more .. and now i m starting to feel stupid hehe.
[18:56]  * Fleep sudo -i's
[18:56] <trism> Shahrooz: it isn't stuck, do you see it drawing to your desktop? you may need to configure it to draw in its own window, there are guides on http://conky.sourceforge.com/ I can't link directly to them at the moment though because it isn't resolving for me
[18:56] <coreGrl> ikonia, so how can I find what's id filling my hd?
[18:57] <ikonia> Lucis: really "sudo -i" "su - " it's almost the same
[18:57] <ikonia> coreGrl: du is a good way to find large files
[18:57] <Shahrooz> trism: I'll check it thanks
[18:57] <ikonia> Lucis: if you don't see a difference, you don't understand it, so use the correct tool, sudo
[18:57] <Lucis> ikonia, no really its a habit, my old fedora in vb didnt have a user that was added to the right groups to use sudo effectively, and (thats like a month ago)i had no clue how to add users, or add them to groups. and give them rights.
[18:57] <loadid> you can add conky as a widget to compiz and have it appear transparent when your mouse hits the corner of the screen
[18:57] <Shahrooz> trism: the link is broken I believe
[18:57] <jrib> coreGrl: some space is reserved for root on every partition, also there may be files you deleted but still in use by a program.  Finally, you may not have permissions on all the files when you ran du
[18:57] <ikonia> Lucis: break the habbit then
[18:57] <loadid> if you know where that checkbox is
[18:57] <loadid> and stuff
[18:57] <juancarlospaco> any help ???
[18:57] <trism> Shahrooz: sorry that should be http://conky.sourceforge.net/ (but again my DNS isn't working for sourceforge at the moment)
[18:58] <coreGrl> doh jrib I think u are right
[18:58] <jrib> trism: interesting... here too
[18:58] <Shahrooz> trism: ah yea :P thanks
[18:58] <Lucis> ikonia: i will. (i was just not as hellbent on it since i dont administre anything :) if my pc goes dead.. i pop in a disc and reinstall the distro) none the less. i'm taking your advice
[18:59] <Lucis> bekks, but the output you aksed for is quantal
[18:59] <coreGrl> jrib, I deleted some logs file but I think they still in use
[18:59] <bekks> Lucis: Yes, you mentioned it already. :)
[18:59] <coreGrl> jrib, there is only the reboot solution?
[18:59] <Lucis> bekks, any idea where to go from there?
[19:00] <jrib> coreGrl: well, just kill (try nicely first) whatever is using the files
[19:00] <bekks> Lucis: Check wether there is a stale lockfile left for dpkg
[19:00] <coreGrl> tank you
[19:00] <|johnny|> Does anyone know how to solve an AMD Microcode error?
[19:00] <ikonia> |johnny|: the what ?
[19:00] <craigbass1976> I'm having mysql trouble, and believe aparmor is the culprit.  aa-complain: command not found  is what I get when trying to follow a walkthrough on Ubuntu's help site.
[19:00] <DaemonicApathy> trism: are you sure you don't mean http://sourceforge.net/projects/conky/?source=directory ?
[19:01] <ikonia> craigbass1976: which command ?
[19:01] <craigbass1976> aa-complain
[19:01] <craigbass1976> ikonia, ^^
[19:01] <ikonia> craigbass1976: is it there (installed)
[19:02] <craigbass1976> I thought it was part of the apparmor package.  How does one put a daemon into complain mode these days?  Looks liek the tut was written around hardy time
[19:02] <ikonia> craigbass1976: is it there (installed)
[19:03] <|johnny|> This is the problem I'm having: http://imagepaste.nullnetwork.net/viewimage.php?id=5132
[19:03] <craigbass1976> ikonia, no, and there's no such animal using apt-get.
[19:03] <|johnny|> As a result there is an error message which displays this every time Ubuntu starts
[19:03] <Lucis> bekks: my knoweledge on dpkg is slacking. 2 chapters ahead of me .. i have to look in /var/lib/dpkg right?
[19:03] <ikonia> craigbass1976: right, so that's the problem,
[19:03] <ikonia> craigbass1976: the command you want to use is not installed on your system
[19:03] <bekks> Lucis: Yes.
[19:04] <jrib> craigbass1976: aa-complain is in /usr/sbin/, do you have it there?
[19:04] <ikonia> |johnny|: why are you bothered about that warning ?
[19:04] <craigbass1976> ikonia, thank you.  Did you see my rephrased question?
[19:04] <Lucis> bekks: i doubt there can be a lockfile , my ubuntu is not in a virtual machine, it is installed directly on my harddrive
[19:04] <craigbass1976> jrib, no, just aa-status
[19:04] <|johnny|> ikonia, I was just wondering if that was normal. But from the sound of you asking me that, it sounds like it is.
[19:05] <ikonia> |johnny|: it's not "normal" but it isn't anything to be concerned about
[19:05] <snark> | johnny |   its a kernel driver looking for a file tat you dont have
[19:05] <bekks> Lucis: And why should there be no lockfile then? A vm has nothing to do with it at all.
[19:05] <Lucis> bekks: there is one file named lock though. ill post all files in a pastebin
[19:05] <|johnny|> oooh I see.
[19:06] <bekks> Lucis: I didnt say a file named "lock".
[19:07] <bekks> Lucis: And you have a process running: ps -ef | grep 11317
[19:07] <bekks> Thats the process causing your error.
[19:07] <Lucis> bekks: no i just figured out a vmware creates lockfiles to prevent consistency problems on virtual disks
[19:08] <Lucis> bekks: pastebin is not available atm. there is no file of interest in /var/lib/dkpg though
[19:08] <Lucis> bekks: yes indeed i do, but what does tha ttell me
[19:09] <primalcurve> Hey everybody. Would it be alright for me to throw a problem your way?
[19:10] <bekks> Lucis: That you _have_ a process running already, as the error message suggests.
[19:10] <Lucis> bekks: http://pastebin.com/fHEfhDCD
[19:10] <jiffe98> is there a way so users can only change the user bits permissions on files/directories but not the group/world bits?
[19:10] <snark> fire away    primalcurve
[19:10] <jrib> jiffe98: yes but why?
[19:10] <Lucis> bekks: ah so if i quit that process it might be solved. still how do you know THAT is the process causing problems.. the list is so long?
[19:11] <bekks> Lucis: Because of its name /usr/sbin/apt...
[19:11] <jiffe98> jrib: because I run a web server and people think their content needs to be 777 even though it doesn't and then someone breaks into another website and can deface others websites because they have the permissions to do so
[19:12] <Shahrooz> loadid: okay the driver is installed, but when I run the cpanel it says "You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver.  Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server." what should I do ?
[19:12] <trism> DaemonicApathy: thanks, guess it isn't sourceforge that I can't resolve, but I was looking for the documentation page that links to the wiki, faq, variables etc (seems the wiki is up though)
[19:13] <loadid> run "sudo nvidia-config"
[19:13] <jrib> jiffe98: educate them :)  It's probably enough for you to just set restrictive permissions on the parent directory of their website so that only they and www-data can enter it (execute).  If you want finer control, you can look into Access Control Lists
[19:13] <loadid> sorry, nvidia-xconfig
[19:13] <Lucis> bekks : root     13385  1.4  0.6 136856 25180 ?        SN   21:11   0:00 /usr/bin/python3.2 /usr/sbin/apt
[19:13] <primalcurve> So I'm having lots of fun attempting to get Ubuntu to boot on a Mac Pro 1,1. It has a 2x2 Xeon setup with 4GB of RAM. I've done some research and I know that it has a 32bit EFI (I know, thanks, Apple). I can get it to boot from the special Live CD for early Mac Pros. I can get it to install, but I cannot get GRUB to work. I've compiled GRUB2 1.99 for the 32bit EFI. I can launch GRUB2 from the rEFInd boot CD, but, when I select Ubuntu, I get a black screen
[19:13] <Lucis> bekks: ok im following you.
[19:13] <jrib> jiffe98: I think you can use ACLs to do what you asked but I've never used it that way personally.  I usually just restrict permissions on the parent directory
[19:16] <primalcurve> So, yeah. My question is essentially, what am I doing wrong? Any tips? Any articles I can read (I have read many at this point).
[19:16] <Lucis> bekks: when i kill the process and ps -aux after , it directly shows the process again , just using another PID
[19:17] <bekks> Then you have something running thats triggering it.
[19:17] <DJones> !nomodeset | profligacy (Not sure if this will help for the black screen, I've never had a mac),
[19:17] <snark> primalcurve, have a look here   first answer might help ----->       http://askubuntu.com/questions/134342/which-iso-image-do-i-need-to-install-ubuntu-12-04-on-a-macbook-pro-so-that-it-bo
[19:17] <profligacy> What?
[19:18] <profligacy> Was that intended for me?
[19:18] <profligacy> ubottu:
[19:18] <profligacy> DJones:
[19:18] <DJones> primalcurve: See the link ubotto posted above (sorry profligacy, mis-tab by me)
[19:19] <primalcurve> Thanks for the tip. I'll give the nomodeset boot option a try and call back and let you know how it goes.
[19:19] <Phibs> I'm tyring to set upa  custom apt repository and while it sees the packages, it 404s on download, can anyone assist
[19:20] <snark> primalcurve, EFI boot on Macs requires a 64-bit kernel
[19:21] <Phibs> my config is thus: http://pastie.org/private/60bjfrzhrodww3ej3oekq
[19:21] <Phibs> why doesn't it look for the packages in the same place, and how do I fix
[19:22] <eankele> Phibs did you apt-get update?
[19:22] <Lucis> bekks : i've tried kill , killall, kill -9 and pkill .. the process keeps comming back with another pid :)
[19:23] <Phibs> eankele: of course
[19:23] <bekks> Lucis: Then you have something running thats triggering it.
[19:24] <Lucis> bekks : i follow your logic, but i dont know where to go from here.
[19:24] <bekks> Lucis: Check everything thats running on your system, every open app, every notification are icon, etc.
[19:26] <Shahrooz> I installed my graphic driver  but when I run the cpanel it says "You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver.  Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server." what should I do ?
[19:26] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> Is there anyone who can split off one on one  and help me
[19:26] <loadid> Shahrooz: did you run nvidia-xconfig as root and restart the X server?
[19:26] <snark> Shahrooz,    just  run `nvidia-xconfig` as root!
[19:26] <xangua> !anyone | Eric_New_Ubuntu
[19:27] <Shahrooz> loadid: I did run nvidia-xconfig and it just made a config file, but I don't know how to restart the x server
[19:27] <loadid> it just means restart
[19:27] <loadid> or you can sudo restart gmd, kdm, xfce
[19:27] <loadid> which ever desktop your using
[19:27] <loadid> probably "sudo restart gdm"
[19:27] <Shahrooz> loadid, ah okay. I'll brb then :)
[19:27] <snark> Shahrooz, just reboot your pc
[19:28] <heth> Hi. I'm on 12.04 and the keyboard indicator disappears and the input languages are reset sometimes, can you help me?
[19:28] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> Why when I install a program does it show up in my start bar on the left, then when I restart it is now gone from that and no where to be found on my system
[19:29] <xangua> Eric_New_Ubuntu: open the dash and type the app name
[19:29] <blez> when will be the ubuntu on android be released
[19:29] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> It was mouse and pointers
[19:29] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> Now gone
[19:29] <loadid> probably when it needs less tech support blez
[19:30] <midnightcoffee> join ##c++
[19:30] <blez> I wanna run it on my phone :|
[19:30] <loadid> ##c++
[19:30] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> I am going to pay canical for support when they get back to me but this is absurd
[19:30] <wilee-nilee> Eric_New_Ubuntu, You have to right click and pin apps to the panel
[19:31] <Lucis> bekks: i have my system monitor open. and see every process that is also listed by ps -aux. but i m searching for something that triggers /usr/lib/pythong related.. how am i supposed to find that when every process in there has i name i dont know a thing about
[19:31] <loadid> blez: i've had ubuntu running on a galaxyS... wasn't very usable though.
[19:31] <Lucis> bekks: all other applications are closed of course. only things open is google-chrome, wicd and terminal
[19:31] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> Pin aps?
[19:32] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> To the dash or start bar?
[19:32] <wilee-nilee> Eric_New_Ubuntu, You said bar on the left.
[19:32] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> I just want to see the application I suppose
[19:33] <wilee-nilee> Eric_New_Ubuntu, hit the super key that open the dash tyoe in the app name.
[19:33] <wilee-nilee> type*
[19:33] <bekks> Lucis: Sounds odd, but did you try to just reboot?
[19:33] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> I am just so disappointed in ubuntu
[19:33] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> I have 25 years of computer experience and haven't used it in 3 years only to realize this is not a primetime OSS
[19:33] <wilee-nilee> Eric_New_Ubuntu, Of course you are you are jumping to that instead of just adapting. ;)
[19:33] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> Now I am stuck again with windows or mac
[19:34] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> After 25 years I should be able to find a program, adjust my mouse settings, install software
[19:34] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> I tried to down load VMware and it won't install
[19:34] <bricked> how can i have apps open on startup?  for example I want tomboy to open to the panel at boot
[19:35] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> No clue which "package" installer may work, the two I tried don't work
[19:35] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> Anyway, thanks for listening
[19:35] <valnour> Eric_New_Ubuntu: your install sounds messed up. this a clean install?
[19:35] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> Brand new
[19:35] <juancarlospaco> ok give me the source code of vmware, i will fix it for tomorrow  :)
[19:35] <valnour> found anyone else having this problem online?
[19:35] <wilee-nilee> bricked, Startup applications hold on.
[19:35] <xangua> bricked: power icon-startup apps
[19:35] <bekks> Eric_New_Ubuntu: vmware is to be installed manually, not with a package installer.
[19:36] <bekks> Eric_New_Ubuntu: Thats why you should use virtualbox instead :)
[19:36] <bricked> xangua, they removed that on 12.10
[19:36] <xangua> mmm :(
[19:36] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> yeah, nothing screams 2012 like opening up a shell and typng a bunch of counter intiutive linux commandsds
[19:36] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> I am sure, i have to sodo something...
[19:36] <nerd_jones> at boot, do my nfs mount points get defined by /etc/fstab, /proc/mounts, or something else alltogether?
[19:36] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> No wonder the Mac is the most valuable company in the world
[19:36] <bricked> Eric_New_Ubuntu, you'd be stupid to use vmware outside of certification purposes or work requirements
[19:37] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> I asked here already and everyone told me VMware is the proper tool
[19:37] <trism> bricked: gnome-session-properties
[19:37] <loadid> nerd_jones: fstab
[19:37] <kodak> if sudo nvidia-xconfig --sli=AFR doesnt work, how can i turn on sli?
[19:37] <Shahrooz> loadid blank screen again, I'm in recovery mode now
[19:37] <bricked> Eric_New_Ubuntu, thats why linux admins get paid more
[19:37] <wilee-nilee> bricked, http://www.inforbiro.com/blog-eng/ubuntu-12-04-startup-applications/  This will load al the startup apps, you can then make your own, and shutdown what you don't want.
[19:37] <snark> nerd_jones,   they are probaly listed in /etc/fstab
[19:37] <Lucis> bekks: going to try that now.
[19:37] <loadid> what did you install Shahrooz?
[19:37] <juancarlospaco> vmware is the proper tool,   to fail
[19:37] <valnour> Eric_New_Ubuntu: if a Mac is what you want to use, use it. no is telling you not to
[19:37] <Shahrooz> the nvidia driver you said
[19:37] <Shahrooz> 137 ? something like that
[19:37] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> Thank you though bricked for your kindness. I am just pissed off that in 2012 I can't download a decent working OS
[19:37] <loadid> try 96 then
[19:38] <nerd_jones> loadid, it appears the other way around on my system, 12.10 , is there any reason this may be the case?
[19:38] <juancarlospaco> virtualbox, lxc, kvm
[19:38] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> I asked about virtual box
[19:38] <Shahrooz> what should I type loadid
[19:38] <bricked> wilee-nilee, thats for 12.04... 12.10 removed that method
[19:38] <bricked> Eric_New_Ubuntu, wget foo.iso
[19:38] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> My first computer was a TRS 80, so it's onot like I am new to this
[19:38] <wilee-nilee> Eric_New_Ubuntu, Whiners go into my ignore I suspect many other users do this as well, it cuts down on any help you might need.
[19:38] <loadid> apt-get install nvidia-96.. it should uninstall the previous version
[19:38] <loadid> Shahrooz: ^
[19:38] <nerd_jones> loadid, and is it alright to just change /proc/mounts, to get them mounted where i need them?
[19:38] <kodak> how can i manually(without nvidia-xconfig) turn on sli?
[19:38] <bekks> Eric_New_Ubuntu: Would you mind to stop flaming and just telling us about specific problems you currently have for enabling us to help you solving them?
[19:39] <loadid> i would say no nerd_jones, that will most likely break things down the line
[19:39] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> Yes, for sure
[19:39] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> bekks
[19:39] <wilee-nilee> bricked, Really, hmm, I would look on the web it is not hard to modify the file.
[19:39] <loadid> change them in fstab and they should propogate through
[19:39] <loadid> use blkid to id by UUID
[19:39] <primalcurve> Okay. "nomodeset" isn't working. I'm thinking that grub doesn't even get to the kernel line before freezing. I think one of the other commands is doing it.
[19:39] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> I would like to download an application from ubuntu and then shut down my computer reboot and have it appearar in the same spot and working like I last configured it
[19:40] <xsl> guys whats best way on ubuntu to configure 2 IP addresses on one interface?
[19:40] <Shahrooz> loadid okay thanks
[19:40] <xsl> external ips i mean
[19:40] <wilee-nilee> primalcurve, Maybe some back on this eh.
[19:40] <loadid> windows needs the +1 line added to the boot settings, is there something like that for macs that your missing primalcurve?
[19:40] <xsl> virtual interfaces like eth0:0 ?
[19:40] <bekks> Eric_New_Ubuntu: Which app in particular using which Ubuntu in particular?
[19:40] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> 12.10
[19:40] <valnour> Eric_New_Ubuntu: works for me, what steps are you taking that aren't working?
[19:40] <xsl> or bridge interface
[19:40] <bricked> will_i_am, try xubuntu if you are having unity problems
[19:40] <bricked> wilee-nilee, rather
[19:40] <xangua> Eric_New_Ubuntu: like you were told before, you need to right clic and select to keep it in the launcher
[19:41] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> Ap name was pointers and mouse
[19:41] <kodak> how can i manually check if SLI is enabled? what config file should i check?
[19:41] <bricked> wait crap Eric_New_Ubuntu
[19:41] <primalcurve> wilee-nilee: You need back story?
[19:41] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> Yes, now how do I find the application to do that?
[19:41] <bricked> Eric_New_Ubuntu, try xubuntu
[19:41] <xangua> Eric_New_Ubuntu: and like I toldf you also before, you can search programs writing the name in the dash
[19:41] <nerd_jones> loadid, they are set up the way i want them in fstab, and the client hasnt changed, i set up a new server, the only thing in fstab that has been changed is hostname of the new server
[19:41] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> You think xubuntu is an easier interface?
[19:41] <bekks> Eric_New_Ubuntu: Click on the dash icon (top left) end enter "pointer" in the search field.
[19:41] <bricked> seriously dash is the easiest way to find an app in any OS ive used
[19:41] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> Did that bekks
[19:41] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> Nothing
[19:42] <wastrel> dash takes 30 seconds to load
[19:42] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> I did however get the pointer sisters
[19:42] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> :)
[19:42] <heth> Hi. I'm on 12.04 fresh install: The keyboard indicator disappears and the input languages are reset from time to time, can you help me?
[19:42] <craigbass1976> Eric_New_Ubuntu, If you do it right, it's very similar to GNOME2; when folks started getting pushed into GNOME3 and Unity, things got ugly, and I suspect more started using XFCE
[19:42] <wilee-nilee> bricked, this command works for startup apps in 12.10. sudo sed -i 's/NoDisplay=true/NoDisplay=false/g' /etc/xdg/autostart/*.desktop
[19:42] <bekks> Eric_New_Ubuntu: Then try "mouse" instead.
[19:42] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> The ap is installed it's called "pointing devices"
[19:43] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> However I can in no way locate this on my system
[19:43] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> :)
[19:43] <Case_> I am hoping someone can help me.  I have an Ubuntu Server with Apache.  I have multiple sites on this server and one of them the GET time for just the domain is like 30 seconds.  The others are perfectly fine.  They have the same naming server and the same domain registerar.  Does anyone have any clue what might cause this?
[19:43] <atrius> under 12.04 and when using virt-manager... is there currently a known way to make the 'couldn't initialize HAL' type messages go away?
[19:43] <bekks> Eric_New_Ubuntu: then enter "point" instead "pointer".
[19:43] <bricked> wilee-nilee, i see alot of folks with a pimped out panel but it seems like its a lot harder to add applets than GNOME2 was
[19:43] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> ok
[19:43] <kodak> how can i check if SLI is enabled or not? im pretty sure its not working, even though i use the commands that should activate it
[19:43] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> nope
[19:43] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> nothing
[19:43] <bekks> Eric_New_Ubuntu: How about "mouse"?
[19:44] <bricked> Eric_New_Ubuntu, you can always try tab-completion in bash or even look in /usr/bin
[19:44] <axisys> i can see my bluetooth headset from my android phone.. but not from ubuntu 12.10 64bit desktop.. what gives?
[19:44] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> is there an apps foldef?
[19:44] <bekks> Eric_New_Ubuntu: No.
[19:44] <wilee-nilee> bricked, Personally I think the term pimped is offensive, but I have a degree in black studies I'm biased, there is no positive use for that word.
[19:44] <axisys> i see 4 devices.. but not my headset
[19:44] <valnour> Case_: you will probably have better luck in #ubuntu-server
[19:44] <loadid> maybe you can change them in /proc/mounts nerd_jones, i'm not sure about that
[19:44] <_cronus_> Eric_New_Ubuntu, sorry, might be a _very_ stupid question, but, have you installed ubuntu or are you using a live cd
[19:44] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> Ok, I think thecronus, not dumb installed
[19:45] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> Trust me I know you get all kinds in here
[19:45] <Ripper003> No microphone sound through Skype or Mumble but Sound Recorder works just fine?
[19:45] <Case_> Thank you Valnour I will try there
[19:45] <bekks> Eric_New_Ubuntu: You can reach that setting by choosing "System settings" icon on the left and the choosing "Mouse and Touchpad".
[19:45] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> It doesn't have all of the settings I need
[19:45] <bricked> "black studies"...
[19:45] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> I needed the ability to turn off my touchpad in this app
[19:45] <xangua> Eric_New_Ubuntu: pointing device, pointing, device, none of those words shows it¿
[19:45] <bekks> Eric_New_Ubuntu: Because that is not implemented.
[19:45] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> nope xang
[19:45] <kodak> where can i get NVIDIA specific ubuntu help?
[19:46] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> I know crazy
[19:46] <bekks> Eric_New_Ubuntu: Regardless of the way you start that app.
[19:46] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> Well, how do I start it if I can't find it
[19:46] <kodak> ive tried this channel atleast 10 times, and always basically get ignored..
[19:46] <bekks> Eric_New_Ubuntu: You can reach that setting by choosing "System settings" icon on the left and the choosing "Mouse and Touchpad".
[19:46] <Newb101> Hi folks, I want to download images off a website I tried wget -r -A jpeg,jpg,bmp,gif,png http://www.domain.com but I'm just getting .html files
[19:46] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> What is this side window?
[19:46] <loadid> maybe there is no good answer to your question kodak, ask something different
[19:46] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> It doesn't appear private
[19:46] <bekks> Eric_New_Ubuntu: It is called "the panel".
[19:47] <Ripper003> kodak: What's the problem? Have you tried this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[19:47] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> No, i mean on KVirc
[19:47] <snark> kodak, NVIDIA is not open souce, and not part of Ubuntu
[19:47] <loadid> Shahrooz: you should check out that guide too
[19:47] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> Sorry, it spawned a new window for no reason
[19:47] <Newb101> anyone
[19:47] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> Thought it might be a private convo
[19:47] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> Anyway
[19:48] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> When I hit the software center it says installed
[19:48] <kodak> ive asked all kinds of questions, never the same one(or atleast tried to) loadid
[19:48] <kodak> snark, thanks
[19:48] <loadid> Newb101: try the -O option
[19:48] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> I am shocked to find out VMware insn't the best
[19:48] <kodak> Ripper003, going through it now, thanks
[19:48] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> I had vitualbox and they told me it sucked this morning
[19:49] <bekks> Eric_New_Ubuntu: Welcome to reality :)
[19:49] <bekks> Eric_New_Ubuntu: Who are "they"?
[19:49] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> People on this IRC channel
[19:49] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> bekks, do you happen to have yahoo
[19:49] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> IM
[19:49] <bekks> Nope.
[19:50] <kodak> Ripper003, the nvidia driver is installed, it shows as active, the nvidia settings gui shows the correct driver version as active, everything works, except SLI, so i cant play any nicer games
[19:50] <wastrel> virtualbox is good i rather like it
[19:50] <Eric_New_Ubuntu> Any way we can have a private conversation in IRC?
[19:50] <bekks> Eric_New_Ubuntu: Just type "/msg bekks hi"
[19:51] <juancarlospaco> from speed:  LXC > VirtualBox > KVM
[19:51] <juancarlospaco> dsepends on setup anyways
[19:51] <Ripper003> kodak: From a quick google it seems SLI needs more than one GPU...Does the settings gui offer sli at all or completely ignore it?
[19:52] <juancarlospaco> for nvidia SLI ? you need > 1 physical nvidia video card, eg 2
[19:53] <juancarlospaco> and a special cable connector
[19:53] <kodak> Ripper003, yes, it needs more than one GPU, which is why i have two cards. The settings GUI ignores it. There is a command "nvidia-xsettings --sli=AFR" which should activate it, but it doesnt
[19:53] <kodak> juancarlospaco, yes, this is a dualboot machine, and sli works fine in windows
[19:54] <juancarlospaco> 2 cards must support SLI, and have the cable connected, better if they are equal
[19:54] <juancarlospaco> ok
[19:54] <Ripper003> kodak: Might seem a little bit of a push off but have you rebooted after running the command?
[19:54] <kodak> yes Ripper003, i started asking this question every once in a while about a month ago...
[19:55] <Ripper003> kodak: hmm, what card(s)?
[19:55] <ikonia> exit
[19:55] <kodak> they are GT440 cards, supported
[19:55] <ikonia> oops
[19:56] <pacop> s
[19:57] <Ripper003> kodak: tried here? http://www.geforce.com/drivers
[19:57] <snark> kodak, this might help ....> http://askubuntu.com/questions/184269/how-can-i-get-sli-working-with-295-40
[19:57] <tux9th> Does anyone have a idea why in the message-indicator neither pidgin nor emails through thunderbird show up?
[19:58] <tux9th> What could be broken and how can I research what is?
[19:58] <zatan> Hey how can I set that users ("www-data" and  "foobar") can share the same files ?
[19:58] <kodak> snark and Ripper003, thanks, looking through those
[19:58] <bekks> zatan: Add the user foobar to the group www-data
[19:58] <Lucis> bekks: i found the solution
[19:58] <bekks> Lucis: And it was...? :)
[19:58] <xangua> tux9th: the new indicator message use some ondemand stuff, for with the pidgin indicator plugin is not prepared; not idea about thinderbird
[19:58] <Lucis> bekks: fuser -v /var/cache/debconf/config.dat , and killing that process solved it
[19:59] <Ripper003> No microphone audio through skype or mumble but sound recorder is fine?
[19:59] <tux9th> xangua: it usually should go blue when  a new email arrives but it does not and it doesn't show the history like in 12.04;
[19:59] <craigbass1976> Ok, so I've got (I believe) apparmor shut up as far as mysql goes, but I still can't load a csv file into a table.  Is there some other trick to getting this working?
[19:59] <zatan> bekks, user "foobar" have got group www-data but I am still sometimes getting file permissions error
[20:00] <Lucis> bekks: time to go home. i just wanted to let you know quickly, and thank you for the entire evening of effort.
[20:00] <Fuzzles> can someone help me i want to switch to ubuntu fully but have 100gb windows partision for 1 game anyway to get that game working perfectly in linux?
[20:00] <xangua> !appdb | Fuzzles
[20:00] <bekks> zatan: Then sometimes something else is messed up :)
[20:00] <bekks> Lucis: you're welcome :)
[20:01] <DJones> tux9th: Looks like there is a fix about to be released for the thunderbird issue, http://askubuntu.com/questions/204290/thunderbird-new-messages-indicator-doesnt-show-with-ubuntu-12-10
[20:01] <tux9th> 12.10 seems to be more a dissapointment then an improvement :s
[20:02] <tux9th> compiz also takes up up to 600mb of ram ...
[20:02] <Edi> Hello guys what's up?
[20:02] <milehigh> I have a 12.04 system, one user account logs in and the launcher/panel doesn't appear, others work fine, I ran ccsm and enabled the Unity plugin for that user and rebooted but it made no difference, any other ideas?
[20:02] <Newb101> My internet cut off
[20:02] <wilee-nilee> tux9th, I think we are all sorry your disappointed, but this is support. ;)
[20:02] <Newb101> Hi folks, I want to download images off a website I tried wget -r -A jpeg,jpg,bmp,gif,png http://www.domain.com but I'm just getting .html files
[20:02] <loadid> Newb101: have you tried the -O option
[20:03] <Nine_9> thunderbird development has stalled, I'd not bother about that. Mozilla will stop releasing security updates next year. I dunno if the community will support it, because a lot of extensions developers are getting away
[20:03] <K3n> did anyone here ever run a whole ubuntu installation *only* fully on a graphic card? because i don't know if that is possible...
[20:03] <tux9th> Nine_9: so thunderbird will cease to exist?
[20:03] <loadid> you mean on the 64bit chip of a grapics card? K3n
[20:04] <wilee-nilee> K3n, YOU can run it in ram if you have enough and know how.
[20:04] <Nine_9> tux9th: nope, of course, a couple of devs will continue the development i think
[20:04] <diskin> Newb101, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4602153/how-do-i-use-wget-to-download-all-images-into-a-single-folder
[20:04] <Newb101> loadid, what does -0 do?
[20:04] <Edi> Guys can someone help me with my ubuntu? After some time being logged in it randomly logs off the user without any warning? Do you have any idea how I might fix that? Thank you in advance :D
[20:04] <juancarloscruzd> hey
[20:04] <tux9th> well thanks anyway
[20:04] <tux9th> cu
[20:05] <loadid> tells wget that your working with files
[20:05] <loadid> Newb101: ^
[20:05] <juancarloscruzd> mates, any help me to configure ubuntu with mod_wsgi and nginx?
[20:05] <K3n> ok, and did someone of you ever managed to do that?
[20:05] <wilee-nilee> K3n, This is support not a polling channel.
[20:05] <diskin> Edi, perhaps you need to check in logs, seems that your X session crashes
[20:05] <juancarloscruzd> yes
[20:05] <K3n> sorry ;)
[20:06] <kodak> still no-go, the options are like they should be(i think) in xorg.conf, but sli is still not enabled :S
[20:06] <Edi> diskin how would I be able to access the logs?
[20:06] <loadid> you probably can't run it on the graphics card.  I would guess that is a graphics specific chip not designed to handel common processes
[20:06] <Ripper003> No microphone audio through skype or mumble but sound recorder is fine?
[20:06] <Kartagis> !sen
[20:06] <Kartagis> !xen
[20:06] <loadid> Ripper003: you have the apps set to use the wrong audio backend?
[20:06] <juancarloscruzd> mod_wsgi + nginx ....someone?
[20:07] <Ripper003> loadid: i don't think so, skype is set to use pulseaudio local server in audio devices
[20:07] <diskin> Edi, there is log viewer prgramm, or you can view them using less, e.g., less /var/log/syslog
[20:07] <mweisshaupt> Hi, my have a problem after upgrading to Ubuntu 12.10. Ubuntu detects my computer as an eee-pc which it isn't :D
[20:07] <loadid> what is sound recorder set to Ripper003?
[20:07] <nerd_jones> an nfs server has absolutely no control over where the shares are mounted right?
[20:07] <sonnyjz> sure does
[20:08] <mweisshaupt> Has anyone had or heared about this problem?
[20:08] <sonnyjz> well where it's shared not how it's mounted
[20:08] <Ripper003> loadid: 'Record from input: Master'
[20:08] <loadid> mweisshaupt: detects?
[20:08] <snark> mweisshaupt,     but every thing works?
[20:08] <loadid> try changing skype to alsa Ripper003 and see what happens
[20:09] <mweisshaupt> It loads some eee-pc kernel modules and the proprietary NVIDIA-Drivers don't work
[20:09] <Ripper003> loadid: I only see PulseAudio as an option.
[20:09] <Shahrooz> loadid still black screen :(
[20:09] <kodak> Pulse is an audio server, pulse normally uses ALSA for its backend i think
[20:09] <Edi> diskin There doesn't seem to be any errors... Is there a way to just reinstall X and hopefully solve the problem
[20:10] <nerd_jones> sonnyjz, i have an old client and a new server, and with my old server everything worked fine, ever since i switched to the new server it mounts one share in two places, the only changes i made to the client fstab was the hostname, i am very lost here, haha
[20:10] <diskin> Edi, maybe reinstall video driver then
[20:11] <Ripper003> kodak: I don't see why Skype and Mumble don't want to know though, they all use the same drivers and if I go into a Skype call I can adjust the boost the mic gets but no audio.
[20:11] <mweisshaupt> This are my log-files: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1301040/
[20:11] <Edi> diskin Ok so if I have nVidia GPU should I just run some command that would do that for me or do I have to do it some other way?
[20:11] <snark> nerd_jones, do you have config files from the old server?
[20:11] <sonnyjz> what do you mean"mounts two places?" nerd_jones
[20:12] <Newb101> diskin, I'm still getting .html files
[20:12] <nerd_jones> well there out there but i cant get to them, i fallowed the same guide to set it up,
[20:12] <Shahrooz> loadid still black screen :(
[20:12] <kodak> Ripper003, aye, but that slider is a pulse slider, right? so he suggested trying without pulse, only going with alsa(and alsamixer perhaps)
[20:12] <Nine_9> i dunno, but i suspect ubuntu rearing ringtail will ship evolution again as the default email client.
[20:12] <diskin> Edi, sorry, I can't help you with nvidia. Ask in the channel...
[20:12] <kodak> anyway, i gotta go
[20:12] <kodak> gn
[20:12] <Edi> diskin OK man thank a lot for your help :D
[20:12] <BluesKaj> Ripper003, install pavucontrol ,it's the pulseaudio GUI that gives several input and output options
[20:12] <nerd_jones> sonnyjz, i have 2 files that im sharing, and insted of sharing them both it shares one in both folders on the client
[20:12] <Nine_9> btw, is ringtail for the ringtail possum?
[20:12] <bekks> Nine_9: Yes. :)
[20:13] <Nine_9> bekks: nice :)
[20:13] <sonnyjz> so on your server's configuration (/etc/exports) you have 2 directories defined?
[20:13] <nerd_jones> sonnyjz, yes
[20:13] <Newb101>  I'm still getting .html files
[20:14] <nerd_jones> sonnyjz, also in /etc/fstab on the client
[20:14] <sonnyjz> can you pastebin your /etc/exports for the server and /etc/fstab of the client pls?
[20:14] <snark> mweisshaupt,  its just your keyboard that is see as eee-pc    not the whole thing
[20:14] <sonnyjz> just pm me nerd_jones
[20:14] <Ripper003> BluesKaj: Nope, nothing when I play around in there, it's picking up microphone fine
[20:15] <BluesKaj> Ripper003, is phonon stiull installed on ubuntu by default ?
[20:16] <[HUN]Btvilag> hi everyone. I have a huge problem...I have three harddrive and out of that 3 2 of them has no partition table due to deletion (didnt think through) and well now I have 3 drives with full shit and 2 with no partition table. and one more tiny thing. I used 1 LVM partition throughout the three and also i have know idea about the order it was plugged in ( 2 sata + 1 IDE) .-.. I read a lot of
[20:16] <[HUN]Btvilag> tutorial but for this one i would need someone LIVE
[20:16] <FloodBot1> [HUN]Btvilag: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:16] <Ripper003> BluesKaj: apparently not, do I need it?
[20:16] <mweisshaupt> snark: ok, that is interesting. a few lines later it loads the Logitech G15 keys...
[20:17] <Techman> Hmm... a flood bot.
[20:17] <[HUN]Btvilag> hi everyone. I have a huge problem...I have three harddrive and out of that 3 2 of them has no partition table due to deletion (didnt think through) and well now I have 3 drives with full shit and 2 with no partition table. and one more tiny thing.
[20:17] <Techman> Smart
[20:17] <[HUN]Btvilag>  I used 1 LVM partition throughout the three and also i have know idea about the order it was plugged in ( 2 sata + 1 IDE) .-.. I read a lot of tutorial but for this one i would need someone LIVE
[20:17] <Jordan_U> [HUN]Btvilag: I barely had time to even finish reading your first comment, let alone respond. Please don't be so quick to repeat yourself.
[20:17] <razvan> Hy from Romania
[20:18] <[HUN]Btvilag> oh i thought it didnt show
[20:18] <[HUN]Btvilag> because it said flood
[20:18] <loadid> why don't you use partition manager [HUN]Btvilag
[20:18] <[HUN]Btvilag> i have a ubuntu server edition
[20:18] <[HUN]Btvilag> and well....
[20:19] <[HUN]Btvilag> never tried but the problem is that i dont know the start block and end etc
[20:19] <loadid> too complicated [HUN]Btvilag.. use the gui
[20:19] <aslan> try cfkdisk
[20:20] <[HUN]Btvilag> whats does cfdisk do?
[20:20] <aslan> cfdisk
[20:20] <[HUN]Btvilag> cfkdisk
[20:20] <aslan> its a partion tool
[20:20] <[HUN]Btvilag> cfdisk
[20:20] <[HUN]Btvilag> ?
[20:20] <[HUN]Btvilag> inside ubuntu?
[20:20] <Jordan_U> [HUN]Btvilag: Do I understand correctly that at this point you just have three drives to setup to be useful, but none of them currently contain any valuable data? (You wouldn't lose anything if they were all zeroed, there's no data you currently want to keep)
[20:20] <aslan> no need to know start and end cylinders
[20:20] <[HUN]Btvilag> oh no
[20:20] <[HUN]Btvilag> the data is there
[20:20] <[HUN]Btvilag> in fact its full
[20:21] <Jordan_U> [HUN]Btvilag: It's a tool for partitioning, but I would recommend parted over [c]fdisk.
[20:21] <[HUN]Btvilag> but i downloaded to a seagate 2 tb and the drive died in 2 weeks even though it was new
[20:21] <[HUN]Btvilag> fuc... anyway so i need to recover the old drives
[20:21] <Jordan_U> [HUN]Btvilag: Please watch your language.
[20:22] <[HUN]Btvilag> sure
[20:22] <Jordan_U> [HUN]Btvilag: Can you please pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l"?
[20:22] <willdabeast> can anyone help me with deleting the other kernels on my desktop and repartitioning to only have 1 os?
[20:22] <snark> [HUN]Btvilag     do you have an external usb drive to backup onto?
[20:22] <wilee-nilee> willdabeast, Make sure the one OS saved has grub control if you have other OS's with grub
[20:23] <[HUN]Btvilag> well right now yeah sure but wonont help unless i recover the partition table deleted
[20:23] <[HUN]Btvilag> well i have boot up the system
[20:23] <[HUN]Btvilag> its not booted but untill then any other suggestion
[20:23] <willdabeast> wilee-nilee ok how do I check? I am really just doing this to increase the partition size of the one OS i actually use
[20:23] <[HUN]Btvilag> just a couple that i can try
[20:24] <snark> [HUN]Btvilag    did you see Jordan_U  request?
[20:24] <MAL__> Sounds like [HUN]Btvilag deleted or formatted the partitions. He wants to recover the now erased data. Any tools for data recovery on linux?
[20:24] <[HUN]Btvilag> nono
[20:24] <[HUN]Btvilag> only partition table
[20:24] <wilee-nilee> willdabeast, In the one you want saved run sudo grub-install /dev/sdX   X is the HD.  What ever OS is at the top of the grub list if not modified has the control.
[20:24] <Jordan_U> [HUN]Btvilag: How did you delete the partition table?
[20:25] <[HUN]Btvilag> snark i saw but it takes time to set up beause its in peaces
[20:25] <loadid> wilee-nilee: you don't need to repartition to remove kernels
[20:25] <[HUN]Btvilag> up with fdisk
[20:25] <[HUN]Btvilag> -up
[20:25] <Jordan_U> [HUN]Btvilag: Testdisk should be able to fix that easily then. http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step
[20:25] <willdabeast> wilee-nilee yea the one at the top is the one I am saving so it should have the grub
[20:25] <loadid> just open package manager and search for linux-kernel and remove all but the newest willdabeast
[20:25] <wilee-nilee> willdabeast, Yep,
[20:26] <willdabeast> loadid and wilee-nilee, are there simple commands I could use? I'd much rather use terminal just for practice
[20:27] <[HUN]Btvilag> Jordan_U well is this okay for lvm?
[20:27] <snark> Jordan_U,   does that work with LVM partitions  (I think he has does)
[20:27] <wilee-nilee> willdabeast, I use ubuntu tweak personally to remove kernels, i could do it from the terminal or synaptic,  but I'm lazy.
[20:28] <willdabeast> wilee-nilee, gotcha, I'll use that I suppose
[20:28] <LiquidDemocracy> Can I do a system upgrade to 12.10 if I have the ISO file but not Internet connection?
[20:28] <willdabeast> wilee-nilee and loadid thanks :)
[20:28] <Jordan_U> [HUN]Btvilag: I don't know if it recovers LVM or not, it can't hurt to see what testdisk detects (it will tell you before aking you to actually commit the changes to the partition table).
[20:29] <[HUN]Btvilag> oh
[20:29] <[HUN]Btvilag> okay thank you.
[20:29] <[HUN]Btvilag> i will stick to that then ...
[20:29] <[HUN]Btvilag> and will check it later
[20:30] <loadid> willdabeast: apt-get remove linux-image and tab complete to remove the unwanted kernels
[20:30] <[HUN]Btvilag> thank you all
[20:31] <willdabeast> loadid thanks cool
[20:34] <wastrel> my window decorations have just all disappeared
[20:34] <wastrel> fun
[20:35] <wastrel> so where are the crash reports that unity keeps carping at me about
[20:35] <wilee-nilee> LiquidDemocracy, upgrade no install yes.
[20:35] <ActionParsnip> wastrel: try pressing ALT+F2 and run:  unity --replace
[20:35] <wastrel> it would be useful if i could find out what crashed when it yells at me that something crashed
[20:35] <ActionParsnip> wastrel: if that's no good, try:  unity --reset
[20:35] <komradefox> is the simiplest way to reinstall ubuntu to use a live cd, delete current ubuntu partitions, then create new partitions and instlall?
[20:36] <snark> wastrel, it must be logging it somewhere try look in /var/log/
[20:36] <LiquidDemocracy> wilnee-nilee thx
[20:36] <wilee-nilee> komradefox, probably, people will argue on their definition of simple though.
[20:36] <ActionParsnip> komradefox: I'd say so, be sure you backup what you need first
[20:36] <wastrel> snark: seems to be /var/crash actually
[20:36] <wastrel> but thx
[20:37] <komradefox> ActionParsnip: need nothing but my win7 partitions
[20:37] <komradefox> i have a dual boot setup, if that makes a difference
[20:37] <ActionParsnip> komradefox: then go nuts buddy:)
[20:37] <wilee-nilee> LiquidDemocracy, No problem, would you like a link to booting the ISO with grub.
[20:37] <komradefox> word, thanks.
[20:37] <ActionParsnip> komradefox: its fine, the dual boot will be handled
[20:38] <snark> komradefox, the Ubuntu installer will walk you through it
[20:38] <ElixirVitae> Hi #ubuntu!
[20:38] <komradefox> i figured it would, thanks a bunch
[20:38] <ElixirVitae> I brought questions~
[20:39]  * primalcurve headdesks
[20:39] <ElixirVitae> Is there a way to sort packages according to their install time?
[20:39] <wilee-nilee> LiquidDemocracy, here is a ISO Boot with grub if needed. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1549847
[20:39] <grol> someone here from düsseldorf
[20:39] <LiquidDemocracy> wilee-nilee, no. I can not do an install. I need to upgrade. That means I have to think of a different way then. I downloaded the ISO at work today because my Internet connection at home is too slow to upgrade.
[20:40] <LiquidDemocracy> grol, #ubuntu-de
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> ElixirVitae: you can read through /var/log/dpkg.log
[20:40] <wilee-nilee> LiquidDemocracy, Ah, well make sure you are backed up before upgrading, some fail.
[20:40] <XMLnewbi> I have an VPS, that got set up by a friend. I am trying to install a java app on in. I have FTP accress to it. But I can not for the life of me find the files of my website on the server? Can not find the directory ware I am uploading too....
[20:40] <XMLnewbi> ive read http://www.comptechdoc.org/os/linux/usersguide/linux_ugfilestruct.html and not much help
[20:40] <ElixirVitae> I want to purge annihilate and destroy programs and dependencies I just installed, and wondering if there exist a quick way.
[20:40] <wastrel> ElixirVitae: you could get an idea looking at the timestamps on things in /var/cache/apt/archives/
[20:40] <ElixirVitae> I sure can, lemme do so.
[20:40] <loadid> ElixirVitae: apt-get remove --purge
[20:40] <grol> LiquidDemocracy: Thanx, bye
[20:40] <loadid> ElixirVitae: also depends on how they were installed in the first place
[20:41] <XMLnewbi> trying to find the directory the FTP server files are saved on in Ubuntu server
[20:42] <ElixirVitae> Mostly through apt, loadid, some with software center.
[20:42] <ActionParsnip> ElixirVitae:  grep installed /var/log/dpkg.log | less
[20:42] <ElixirVitae> dpkg seems to have it all, ActionParsnip, I am skimming it now
[20:42] <snark> XMLnewbi,   have a look in /var/www/ftp   perhaps?
[20:42] <ActionParsnip> XMLnewbi: in the root of the FTP root or lower
[20:42] <ElixirVitae> all ~8k of it
[20:43] <loadid> why are so many things half installed ActionParsnip?
[20:43] <ActionParsnip> loadid: they get installed, then configured
[20:44] <loadid> ahh
[20:44] <XMLnewbi> cd root      permission denied,           sudo cd root      command not found
[20:44] <ActionParsnip> XMLnewbi: where did you set the FTP root to start at?
[20:44] <Elesnemp> hi
[20:44] <XMLnewbi> I didnt set this  up,   I had a friend do it, and he uploaded my whole website to make it live
[20:44] <snark> ActionParsnip,  I think he said hedidnt set it up
[20:45] <Elesnemp> I'm missing my toolbar on windows (minimize/close buttons)  I'm using lxde + openbox anyone have a clue?
[20:45] <XMLnewbi> I should have root access to this server
[20:45] <XMLnewbi> what is the command to CD root?
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> XMLnewbi: upload another file you know the name of, then run:  sudo updatedb; locate filename      change filename to the one you uploaded
[20:45] <sirlark> Hi, I was trying to add a virtualhost to my apache2 on a 12.04 server, which was running only a single plone site via wsgi. Now I can't get to any sites
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> XMLnewbi: its nothing to do with the root account
[20:46] <XMLnewbi> ahh, that worked! think i found it
[20:47] <wastrel> is there a way to tile windows in unity
[20:47] <wastrel> i have some windows outside my screen and want them back
[20:47] <loadid> wastrel: sometimes you can hold down the alt key and drag them back onto the primary screen
[20:47] <juancarlospaco> wastrel: Unity wont do window managment, its compiz or metacity or any other
[20:47] <ActionParsnip> wastrel: hold ALT and you can drag them from ANY point on the app window
[20:47] <wastrel> there's no part of them visible
[20:48] <loadid> just guess wastrel
[20:48] <loadid> hold down the alt key and click anywhere in the window to drag it around wastrel, just guess where it is
[20:48] <wastrel> the pointer won't leave the screen they've bene moved outside of the screen
[20:48] <wastrel> i can't click on them
[20:48] <wastrel> nvm
[20:48] <snark> XMLnewbi, what worked?
[20:48] <loadid> ohh, maybe to a different desktop wastrel?
[20:49] <XMLnewbi> I found my index.htm         var/www
[20:49] <loadid> hold down ctrl+alt and arrow right or left wastrel
[20:49] <primalcurve> Okay, so I've bypassed the grub.cfg file by using the grub command line.
[20:49] <wastrel> not on a different desktop
[20:49] <netdur> hi all, a dialog show up every few minutes asking me for my gmail password http://imgur.com/q5T1S,frM7j
[20:49] <netdur> how do I disable it?
[20:49] <snark> XMLnewbi, thats not FTP though
[20:49] <primalcurve> I point grub at the kernel and tell it to boot, and it hangs.
[20:49] <Jordan_U> wastrel: What window manager are you using and how did the windows get off the screen?
[20:49] <wastrel> it's unity and it seems clusterssh isn't playing nice with unity
[20:50] <wastrel> clusterssh moved them off the screen
[20:50] <XMLnewbi> its got my java app, im going to try to install it from here
[20:50] <wastrel> i'm just going to use tmux
[20:50] <wilee-nilee> primalcurve, This happen with all kernel choices?
[20:50] <primalcurve> I get "Error: no suitable mode found." "Booting however" then nothing.
[20:50] <loadid> netdur: is that your email program trying to auto download mail without a password saved?
[20:50] <_cronus_> sirlark, maybe you have better chances finding an anser in #httpd channel
[20:50] <ActionParsnip> primalcurve: if you run:  sudo update-grub     does it help?
[20:50] <primalcurve> I should give some background.
[20:51] <wilee-nilee> cough modified grub
[20:51] <snark> primalcurve, EFI boot on Macs requires a 64-bit kernel
[20:51] <wastrel> i suppose i should file a bug
[20:51] <primalcurve> This is a Mac Pro 1,1 with a 32 bit EFI. I have compiled GRUB2 1.99 and boot from there.
[20:51] <netdur> loadid: I do not use email client
[20:51] <ActionParsnip> primalcurve: did you try the boot option: nomodeset
[20:51] <ElixirVitae> What's the difference between multiverse and universe, they should be essentially same regarding the content of the programs, no?
[20:51] <primalcurve> I did try nomodeset, yes.
[20:51] <primalcurve> I am using a 32 bit kernel.
[20:51] <primalcurve> ER
[20:51] <primalcurve> Back that UP!
[20:51] <ActionParsnip> primalcurve: what video chip do you use?
[20:51] <primalcurve> 64 bit kernel
[20:51] <FloodBot1> primalcurve: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:51] <loadid> what program is that asking for your password?
[20:51] <loadid> netdur: ^
[20:52] <snark> primalcurve, have a look here   first answer might help ----->       http://askubuntu.com/questions/134342/which-iso-image-do-i-need-to-install-ubuntu-12-04-on-a-macbook-pro-so-that-it-bo
[20:52] <netdur> loadid: it doesn't say which program request it
[20:52] <primalcurve> I have read that article before. I am using an alternative image.
[20:52] <primalcurve> The Live CD boots just fine. The installer runs. This is getting the EFI to boot the installed OS.
[20:52] <loadid> what if you alt tab while it's on the screen, does that show the parent program netdur?
[20:53] <Jordan_U> primalcurve: Why did you compile grub manually?
[20:53] <primalcurve> I had to. I had to have a 32bit version of grub-efi.
[20:53] <loadid> maybe you don't use an email program, but it is configured and set to auto download anyway netdur?
[20:53] <primalcurve> This Mac Pro is weird. It has a 32 bit EFI.
[20:53] <primalcurve> Despite having a 64 bit processor.
[20:53] <netdur> loadid: the dialog is modal, you cannot alt-tab it, it stick on top with focus
[20:53] <Jordan_U> !info grub-efi-ia32 | primalcurve
[20:54] <compdoc> never new there was a 32bit and 64bit efi
[20:54] <hartikainen> Is there any good and easy to use GUI for bochs
[20:54] <snark> primalcurve, have you read this?  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[20:54] <compdoc> knew
[20:54] <ActionParsnip> primalcurve: macs are weird, and best avoided imho
[20:54] <loadid> what programs do you have open netdur?
[20:54] <primalcurve> snark: I have indeed.
[20:54] <netdur> loadid: chrome, firefox, nautilus and empathy
[20:54] <snark> primalcurve,   qoute   "Use a 64bit disk of Ubuntu (32bit installer does not detect EFI)"
[20:55] <primalcurve> ActionParsnip: I agree. This is partly a matter of pride. I can get Linux to run on a lot of stuff. It annoys me that this solution eludes me.
[20:55] <Jordan_U> primalcurve: I would recommend using grub 2.00 and Ubuntu 12.10 (which already comes with grub 2.00).
[20:55] <primalcurve> Jordan_U: Is there an Ubuntu 12.10 image for Macs? The standard desktop image does not boot on this Mac.
[20:56] <loadid> close one at a time until the pop-up goes away and then adjust the settings in the offending app netdur
[20:56] <netdur> loadid: thanks for help
[20:58] <wildc4rd> why is there an amazon link on my dashboard, did ubuntu finally sell out?
[20:58] <Jordan_U> primalcurve: What image did you use that did boot on this machine?
[20:58] <wastrel> wildc4rd: because ubuntu finally sold out, and yes
[20:58] <primalcurve> 11.04. Let me see if I can hunt down the link.
[20:59] <primalcurve> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacPro "The regular 64-bit Ubuntu CDs have trouble booting on older Intel Macs, such as https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacPro1,1, due to EFI incompatibilities. You must download a special +mac CD of Ubuntu to work-around this problem. For 11.04, you can get it here:"
[20:59] <ActionParsnip> wildc4rd: you can remove it if you want
[20:59] <ActionParsnip> primalcurve: Natty is EOL in a matter of days
[21:00] <wildc4rd> I have, though that misses the point a little.
[21:00] <snark> primalcurve,   ah that makes sence now!
[21:01] <Jordan_U> primalcurve: So you used the +mac CD? You can find an Ubuntu 12.10 +mac iso here: http://ubuntu.cs.utah.edu/releases/quantal/
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> wildc4rd: you are forgetting Ubuntu is made by a company, companies like money
[21:01] <primalcurve> ActionParsnip: I am just attempting this for fun. Don't mistake my interest in a long-term solution. This Mac Pro is basically used as a multi-boot OS X machine. It has 10.5, 10.6, & 10.7 as well as a Windows 7 partition. It would be awesome sauce if I could get linux going to.
[21:02] <ActionParsnip> primalcurve: you may find the later drivers and kernel make the system work nicer
[21:02] <savio> what ubuntu sold out?
[21:02] <Jordan_U> primalcurve: The reason I asked is that you're talking about booting via EFI, where that image (unintuitively) is actually the same as the normal image, but with the EFI bootloader *removed* (because Apple's firmware is terrible and chokes with multi-catalog CDs).
[21:02] <dem0n> hello everyone, i just purchased a usb card reader so that i could access/write to my sdcard in linux, which i am using ubuntu as my guest os with vmware player, but before i write to the sdcard i just wanted to make sure that i am writting to the correct /dev location so i am hoping someone can confirm that this /dev/ location is my sdcard which is 16gigs
[21:02] <primalcurve> Ah, this is excellent. I was wondering if I could get it to work with 12.10.
[21:02] <ActionParsnip> savio: wildc4rd is referencing the amazon thing in Ubuntu
[21:03] <wilee-nilee> nobody even thinks of all the money dumped into ubuntu, I doubt they have hit any profit margin yet.
[21:03] <primalcurve> I'll have to try this other image.
[21:03] <dem0n> Disk /dev/sdb: 15.9 GB, 15931539456 bytes
[21:03] <dem0n> 256 heads, 63 sectors/track, 1929 cylinders
[21:03] <dem0n>   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[21:03] <dem0n> /dev/sdb1   *           1        1930    15557120    c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)
[21:03] <bretolius> For anyone running 12.10, and has two optical drives, can you check the Disk Utility GUI and tell me if there are two discrete entries, one for each drive or is it combining them into one entry?  I have two drives, both seemingly work, but there is only one entry in the list for some reason.
[21:03] <dem0n> sorry for the paste...
[21:03] <primalcurve> At this point, I'm avoiding the EFI boot by using a rEFInd CD.
[21:03] <wilee-nilee> !pastebin > dem0n
[21:03] <ActionParsnip> bretolius: run:  sudo lshw -C disk ; sudo lshw -C drive      to see the device names
[21:04] <Nine_9> Now that everything at mozilla is going downhill they come up with that firefox OS. These guys really knows how to get bankrupted. Dumb and Dumber couldn't do better.
[21:04] <primalcurve> I think I'm going to have to try the new CD/installer and see if it works.
[21:04] <primalcurve> But that will be for another day.
[21:04] <primalcurve> Got to go fellas. Thanks for the assistance.
[21:04] <wilee-nilee> Nine_9, And we all thank you for your BIASED personal opinion. ;)
[21:04] <Jordan_U> primalcurve: Both grub and most other parts of the stack have improved EFI support greatly recently, so using the latest release is definitely a good idea.
[21:05] <dem0n> i am trying to write an image file to my sdcard in linux with dd, would i use /dev/sdb or /dev/sdb1 ?
[21:05] <dem0n> i am leaning towards /dev/sdb1 but i want to be sure
[21:05] <ActionParsnip> Nine_9: how is that ubuntu support related?
[21:05] <ishaan> does anybody know how to configure hybrid graphics AMD on ubuntu 12.10? P.S i am a newbie to linux
[21:05] <Redi_> Hey, how sure can I be that if "format" is not ticked in the install of 12.10 the partion will not be formated? :D I want to use the same /home [on separate HDD] like last time without reformatting the drive.
[21:05] <MarcWeber> Does anybody mind having a look at what permissions your ~/.config directory has?
[21:05] <savio> dem0n, /dev/sdb1 is right
[21:05] <Jordan_U> dem0n: It depends on what the image is and what your end goal is. What type of image is it and what is your end goal?
[21:06] <Nine_9> wilee-nilee: even blind people can see that isn't going far. I just hope the CEO is volunteer because their work doesn't worth a single cent.
[21:06] <dem0n> savio: thank you
[21:06] <Jordan_U> savio: dem0n: No, most likely sdb1 is wrong (if you're trying to create a bootable liveUSB).
[21:06] <dem0n> here is a full print out of fdisk -l
[21:06] <dem0n> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1301182/
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> MarcWeber: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1301188/
[21:06] <dem0n> jordan_U: i am just trying to write a ubuntu imagre file to my sdcard with dd
[21:07] <Jordan_U> dem0n: Also remember that either command will *destroy all data*, so be very careful.
[21:07] <dem0n> yes i know thank you
[21:07] <snark> MarcWeber,    should be a normal user rights
[21:07] <dem0n> but i appreciate the warning
[21:07] <MarcWeber> ActionParsnip I asked because libre office does not create it (Yet) - thus I wondered wether some care should be taken about permissions 700 look fine to me.
[21:07] <Jordan_U> dem0n: savio: To make a bootable liveUSB from an Ubuntu iso you definitely want to write it to the entire drive (sdb), *not* a partition (sdb1).
[21:08] <HardFu> hi there
[21:08] <ActionParsnip> MarcWeber: thats mine on a clean install of Quantal. I haven't tweaked any permissions in $HOME
[21:08] <HardFu> I have an ubuntu box that acts as a router in front of several boxes
[21:08] <MarcWeber> ActionParsnip: I guessed that.
[21:08] <yeehi> Hello! i want to download and install the certificate for Wine - what command do I use?
[21:08] <HardFu> but I can't access boxes behind the router
[21:08] <HardFu> I've set up IP forwarding
[21:08] <HardFu> also un-blocked port with ufw
[21:09] <MarcWeber> ActionParsnip, snark Is it the task of the distribution to create that directory?
[21:09] <wilee-nilee> !enter > HardFu
[21:09] <snark> MarcWeber,   yes
[21:09] <MarcWeber> snark: Does ubuntu do it by /etc/skel?
[21:09] <hartikainen> exit
[21:09] <xangua> yeehi: the certificate for wine¿ you mean... ¿
[21:09] <wilee-nilee> HardFu, Hard to folow you with multiple posts, spit it out in one group. ;)
[21:09] <komradefox> can i change what drive my grub2 is from a live cd?
[21:10] <yeehi> yes, xangua
[21:10] <HardFu> ok
[21:10] <xangua> ...
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> MarcWeber: I believe the apps make thier own config folders
[21:10] <goddard1> how can i make it so when i add a picture as a background it stays in the panel?
[21:10] <dem0n> jordan_U: i have a mini pc -> mk802, and i am trying to setup linux with my mk802 which comes with the android 4.0 operating system, so they have certain linux images that they have created for the mk802 specifically, so i am trying to write that lubuntu image directly to my sdcard so when i boot my mk802 it will load linux instead of android 4.0
[21:10] <snark> MarcWeber,   when you install apps  they put there config files there for you to customise as you see fit
[21:10] <MarcWeber> ActionParsnip: They create folderrs inside ~/.config - but I wonder whether they should create it ..
[21:10] <Dougie187> Does anyone know if 12.10 is going to see compiz 0.9.9?
[21:11] <MarcWeber> snark: I'm contributing to nixos linux - so I wonder whether I should ask for making libreoffice create that directory, or make nixos create that directory.
[21:11] <billybigrigger> i just installed 12.10 and upon boot i get an error
[21:11] <billybigrigger> but boots fine...
[21:11] <billybigrigger> something about sparse not allowed or something
[21:11] <savio> billybigrigger, what error?
[21:12] <said__> problem with language ?
[21:12] <ActionParsnip> MarcWeber: do you mean create the ~/.config folder itself?
[21:12] <MarcWeber> ActionParsnip: Exactly: Should it be my, the one of libre office, or the one of my distribution to create it.
[21:12] <snark> MarcWeber,   as I understand  its part of the user profile so the OS create it
[21:12] <ActionParsnip> MarcWeber: 700 makes sense, full access only to the owner
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> MarcWeber: libreoffice will make its own config folder when it is first ran, its not made by ubuntu itself
[21:13] <MarcWeber> ActionParsnip: On nixos we compile libre office from source. When statring libre offiec and ~/.config does not exist I get an "internal error" and libre office quits.
[21:14] <ActionParsnip> MarcWeber: if you make the ~/.config  folder, does it run ok?
[21:14] <MarcWeber> ActionParsnip: If its the task of the OS - I wonder when the OS should create ~/.config - because my ubuntu server installation does not create it on useradd -m foo.
[21:14] <MarcWeber> ActionParsnip: Yes. That fixes it.
[21:14] <dennis_> hi, can anyone help me please? I need to combine two HDDs into a single partition which is to be used in a RAID 1 setting with a partition on a third drive..
[21:15] <theadmin> MarcWeber: Well you can place an empty .config in /etc/skel...
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> MarcWeber: sounds like there needs to be a check to see if the folder exists before running the app and make the folder if it doesn't
[21:16] <theadmin> Or that.
[21:16] <MarcWeber> ActionParsnip: Thta's the point: Is it my task as "packager of libre office" to write a shell script which does the job, or should I (as sysadmin) craete that directory by adding it to /etc/skel? Or should I file a bug report (which I did).
[21:16] <MarcWeber> Maybe the Java library which tries to access it should be made create a message box (4th option)
[21:18] <pangur> I have deleted /usr/bin  :(((((
[21:19] <savio> well done pangur
[21:19] <genio_> ubuntu 12.4 is the best :D
[21:19] <pangur> Is there any way back for me after that savio?
[21:19] <bekks> pangur: Only with your backup.
[21:19] <theadmin> pangur: No, since /usr/bin contains dpkg, apt-get and anything that *could* pull that stuff back
[21:19] <ActionParsnip> MarcWeber: /etc/skel is a nice work around, will help other apps that use the folder too
[21:19] <savio> some forensic
[21:19] <theadmin> pangur: I suggest a reinstall (or if you have a backup...)
[21:20] <snark> MarcWeber, I thing it is specific to gnome so if you dont use gnome no user will get it created
[21:20] <pangur> I have a dual-booted windows directory version - which I installed some time ago.
[21:21] <wilee-nilee> pangur, You have a habit of running in root?
[21:21] <pangur> I normally use ubuntu but I have windows7 as well.  The ubuntu is supposed to be like a sub-directory of the windows installation.
[21:21] <wilee-nilee> pangur, A wubi install?
[21:22] <pangur> wilee-nilee: I was trying to delete a thing called webservice-office-zoho
[21:22] <pangur> It is a wubi, wilee-nilee .
[21:22] <ActionParsnip> pangur: if you mount the system partition, you can copy the folder from the live CD to the installed OS. The folder is quite integral to the OS so you ideally should reinstall
[21:22] <wilee-nilee> pangur, Ah, well dualboot it now and clone it, would be my approach.
[21:23] <pangur> Would I be able to save my current data that way, wilee-nilee/ ActionParsnip ?
[21:23] <AceKing> Can someone tell me how I can have Teamviewer auto start when I start my PC? I'm running Ubuntu 12.04
[21:23] <theadmin> AceKing: You can't really do that. You can do the following: 1) Configure automatic log in. 2) Configure TeamViewer to start on log in.
[21:24] <pangur> I am not sure that I know how to mount the system.
[21:24] <wilee-nilee> pangur, Depends on what your definition of current data is, setup not worth it and no media.....etc yes.
[21:24] <theadmin> AceKing: For the first step, see "Login Window" in the settings panel, for the second, "Startup Applications".
[21:24] <ActionParsnip> pangur: you should have a backup if your data is mportant
[21:24] <pangur> I know that I should but some is recent and not backed up :(
[21:25] <AceKing> theadmin: OK, Thanks
[21:25] <theadmin> pangur: Um, all your "data" is in your home directory which you can back up from a livecd...
[21:25] <[HUN]Btvilag> Hi everyone. I have a deleted partition table problem with lvm disks. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1301240/
[21:25] <theadmin> pangur: apps are not data in any way
[21:25] <pangur> If I reinstall, will I not lose my data?
[21:25] <theadmin> pangur: Depends on how you partition. First back up (from a livecd), then reinstall.
[21:25] <ActionParsnip> pangur: without a backup, yes
[21:26] <ActionParsnip> pangur: copy the data off that you want first. Why do you not have a backup?
[21:27] <dennis_> hi, can anyone help me please? I need to combine two HDDs into a single partition which is to be used in a RAID 1 setting with a partition on a third drive..
[21:27] <pangur> Stupidity on my part is the only possible answer to that ActionParsnip .
[21:27] <pangur> I have external harddrives
[21:27] <[HUN]Btvilag> I have a huge problem...I have three harddrive and out of that 3 2 of them has no partition table due to deletion (didnt think through) and well now I have 3 drives with full shit and 2 with no partition table. and one more tiny thing.
[21:27] <[HUN]Btvilag> I used 1 LVM partition throughout the three and also i have know idea about the order it was plugged in ( 2 sata + 1 IDE) .-.. I read a lot of tutorial but for this one i would need someone LIVE
[21:27] <pangur> I can transfer the stuff across to them if cp still works
[21:29] <theadmin> pangur: You use a livecd to copy. Don't touch your broken system from insides.
[21:29] <pangur> I downloaded wubi version theadmin
[21:30] <pangur> That was what I used to do the original installation.
[21:30] <ActionParsnip> pangur: you can mount the wubi disk file from liveCD but its not easy
[21:30] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: Is pretty easy actually
[21:31] <pangur> I have connected my pocket harddrive to my usb port just now.
[21:31] <pangur> How do I copy my Documents to the pocket drive, please?
[21:32] <theadmin> pangur: First, mount your Windows drive. Then, find the root.disk and mount that. Then, copy.
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: its not as easy as mounting real partitions from within nautilus
[21:32] <[HUN]Btvilag> so can anyone help please?
[21:32] <bretolius> ActionParsnip: so I checked out "sudo lshw -C disk"
[21:32] <bretolius> both DVD drives show up
[21:33] <pangur> I need to copy my data my usb harddrive.
[21:33] <bretolius> but only one shows up in the disk utility
[21:33] <bretolius> is that a problem?
[21:33] <ActionParsnip> pangur: can you see why backups are good now?
[21:33] <pangur> Where does usb harddrive live
[21:33] <pangur> ActionParsnip: I should have learned from experience by now.  I am really stupid.
[21:34]  * pangur is kicking himself
[21:34] <loadid> pangur: /dev/sdd perhaps?
[21:34] <ActionParsnip> pangur: once you mount the NTFS partition using nautilus, you can then run:   mkdir /media/wubi; mount -o loop /media/mountpoint/ubuntu/disks/root.disk /media/wubi
[21:34] <loadid> mount /dev/sdd /mnt && ls /mnt
[21:34] <dr_willis> then end of 'dmesg' should mention its /dev/sdd# info pangur
[21:34] <grandmast3r> hi all
[21:34] <ActionParsnip> pangur: the mountpoint part of the command will be the actual mount point used when nautilus mounted the NTFS partition
[21:35] <pangur> [21839.464729] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdd] Attached SCSI disk - does that sound like it, dr_willis ?
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> pangur: basically loop mount the root.disk file
[21:38] <dr_willis> pangur:  'sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdd' would verify that its /dev/sdd or /dev/sdd1 (most likely) look for ntfs in the filestem field.
[21:38] <pangur> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1301269/ is the output from dmesg
[21:38] <diogo_79> hi guys
[21:39] <diogo_79> why is so dificult to install a modem 56k
[21:39] <ActionParsnip> pangur: boot to liveCD, mount NTFS, loop mount root.disk file in mountpoint/ubuntu/disks     done
[21:39] <diogo_79> ?
[21:40] <ActionParsnip> diogo_79: depends on the modem chip
[21:40] <dr_willis> [21839.458807]  sdd: sdd1 looks like its /dev/sdd1 to me  pangur  :)
[21:40] <diogo_79> is an agere
[21:40] <ActionParsnip> !dialup | diogo_79
[21:40] <diogo_79> justo whant to use the modem for fax
[21:41] <diogo_79> using hylafax
[21:41] <pangur> calum@ubuntu:/$ sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdd1 gives me bash: /usr/bin/sudo: No such file or directory
[21:41] <ActionParsnip> pangur: you need to do it from live CD
[21:41] <pangur> oh
[21:41] <diogo_79> the modem is detected as  Agere LT WinModem 56k Data+Fax+Voice+Dsvd
[21:41] <diogo_79> in port ttyLT0
[21:42] <ActionParsnip> !fax
[21:42] <dr_willis> pangur:  'sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdd'
[21:42] <dr_willis> pangur:  sdd is the whole disk. sdd1 is the first partion ON the disk
[21:42] <diogo_79> cannot use this port it sys is invalid
[21:42] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: she's still in the install OS so sudo doesn't exist
[21:42] <diogo_79> says
[21:42] <komradefox> oh man, there's a program that helps edit grub2 and i can't remember what it is
[21:42] <pangur> same error message dr_willis
[21:42] <dr_willis> dmesg says its sdd1 anyway. ;)
[21:43] <dr_willis> pangur:  so mount /dev/sdd1 and see whats on it. ;)
[21:43] <diogo_79> i thinks a need to load the driver into the kernel
[21:43] <diogo_79> think
[21:43] <andrija> gj fixing internal mic problem on netbooks in new ubuntu
[21:43] <loadid> try loading the module first diogo_79
[21:43] <diogo_79> with modprobe?
[21:44] <loadid> yeah
[21:44] <pangur> mount: according to mtab, /dev/sdd1 is already mounted on /media/POCKET mount failed
[21:44] <dr_willis> pangur:  so look in /media/POCKET  :)
[21:44] <loadid> pangur: ls /media/POCKET
[21:44] <pangur> That is the external harddrive right enough
[21:44] <cruejone_> any chance someone can point me to a straightforward doc on installing/configuring openstack folsom on 12.10?
[21:45] <diogo_79> the two modules do not exist
[21:45] <riqdiiz> Obama  and  contnder online
[21:45] <pangur> dr_willis: and loadid  - that gave me a list of the files on POCKET :)
[21:45] <diogo_79> the modules are agrmodem and agrserial
[21:45] <riqdiiz> now
[21:45] <loadid> where does not exist diogo_79
[21:45] <loadid> pangur: "nautilus /media/POCKET &"
[21:46] <loadid> type that
[21:46] <diogo_79> the message is not found
[21:46] <loadid> what drivers are you tryping to load diogo_79?
[21:46] <riqdiiz> dr how are you bud?
[21:46] <diogo_79> i am trying to follow this tutorial https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto/Lucent/Agere
[21:46] <pangur> [1] 11599 calum@ubuntu:/media/POCKET$ ... bash: /usr/bin/python: No such file or directory
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> pangur: are you doing this from the liveCD / USB OS and not the installed OS?
[21:47] <diogo_79> but my kernel is
[21:47] <diogo_79> 3.2.0-29-generic-pae
[21:47] <pangur> From the installed OS
[21:48] <pangur> I have a Knoppix DVD - would I be able to use that?
[21:48] <pangur> Knoppix 7
[21:48] <diogo_79> when i execute sudo make gives me this error make[2]: *** No rule to make target `arch/x86/tools/relocs.c', needed by `arch/x86/tools/relocs'.  Stop.
[21:48] <ActionParsnip> pangur: if you run:  cd /host     do you see your windows files?
[21:48] <diogo_79> anyone knows what this mean
[21:48] <ActionParsnip> pangur: run:  ls   after the cd command.
[21:48] <loadid> diogo_79: did your compile complete successfully?
[21:49] <pangur> If I do cd /host and then ls I see my Windows files
[21:49] <kevinlu310> why I don't have sound on my computer now? I'm running ubuntu 12.04 latest update now. It's a ASUS N56VZ laptop. The sound worked just a few hours ago. Any clues? Thanks a lot.
[21:49] <ActionParsnip> pangur: ok then run:  cd ./ubuntu/disks; ls
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> pangur: do you see your
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> pangur: do you see root.disk ?
[21:50] <loadid> have you looked at the audio prefs kevinlu310?
[21:50] <theadmin> pangur: You're not on a livecd are you?
[21:50] <diogo_79> the problem is that this driver has make to run in 2.6 kernel and not 3.2 kernels
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: the installed OS :(
[21:50] <pangur> boot  OLDroot.disk  root.disk  swap.disk
[21:51] <diogo_79> dont know what to do next
[21:51] <pangur> No theadmin.
[21:51] <diogo_79> i realy need thsi driver to get the modem to work
[21:51] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: That's his problem... Should boot off a livecd, recovering something without a /usr/bin would be close to impossible -- tar is there, gzip is there...
[21:51] <pangur> I can see root.disk ActionParsnip
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> pangur: ok then you will need to get a sudo binary from somewhere, then you can mount the root.disk file and access your data
[21:51] <loadid> if you can't compile them correctly you can't enable them, you need to get your build environment set up first diogo_79
[21:51] <kevinlu310> loadid: where to look at that? The sound icon on the up right corner? I checked that.
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> pangur: using liveCD will probably be needed so that you can use sudo etc
[21:52] <loadid> kevinlu310: system prefs
[21:52] <diogo_79> what i need to compile
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> pangur: like I said ages ago
[21:52] <pangur> OK
[21:52] <diogo_79> how can accomplish that?
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: mount is in /bin ;) but the liveCD will make life a tonne easier
[21:52] <loadid> have you tried to compile diogo_79?
[21:52] <bretolius> Once I install off my USB drive, I can't boot off of the USB drive, what gives?
[21:52] <diogo_79> i have linux-headers in usr/src
[21:52]  * pangur will need to hunt for a live CD.  All he can see at the moment is a Knoppix7 cd
[21:52] <diogo_79> no
[21:52] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: True.
[21:52] <diogo_79> i have not try to compile
[21:53] <diogo_79> how can i do that?
[21:53] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: Then again, sudo is in /usr/bin and root password is not set by default :/
[21:53] <loadid> you follow the directions that you showed me
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: indeed :(
[21:53] <diogo_79> i have install build-essencials and linux headers for the 3.2 kernel that is install in the system
[21:54] <loadid> specifically this part: make install diogo_79
[21:54] <loadid> did you unpack the tar.gz file diogo_79
[21:54] <kevinlu310> loadid: where should I look for system prefs?
[21:54] <loadid> in your ubuntu menu kevinlu310
[21:54] <diogo_79> but if the make command fails how the make install is going to work
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> loadid: install unp and run:  unp filename
[21:55] <diogo_79> the first command that i execute has make clean
[21:55] <diogo_79> then make
[21:55] <diogo_79> and this last one gives me this error make[2]: *** No rule to make target `arch/x86/tools/relocs.c', needed by `arch/x86/tools/relocs'.  Stop.
[21:55] <diogo_79> how the make install is going to work
[21:55] <diogo_79> how the make install is going to work'
[21:55] <diogo_79> ?
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> !find relocs.c
[21:55] <kevinlu310> loadid: The icons on right corner?  There is a sound icon for sound setting. I think I set up everything there.
[21:56] <ActionParsnip> diogo_79: do you have the kernel headers installed?
[21:56] <diogo_79> yes
[21:56] <streulma> hello, I have a PowerBook G4 that I have to install for someone. The problem is that Ubuntu 12.04 3D not works. Ubuntu 10.04 is a little bit old but with 3D support. Which version to use?
[21:56] <loadid> are you booted into the kernel that you have the correct headers installed for?
[21:56] <diogo_79> the kernel version is 3.2.0-29-generic-pae
[21:57] <diogo_79> yes
[21:57] <kevinlu310> loadid: Never mind. It just works now. Weird!
[21:57] <diogo_79> is the file relocs.c missing in this 3.2.0-29-generic-pae
[21:57] <diogo_79> kernel
[21:57] <loadid> streulma: i think 10.04 has no support for ext4
[21:57] <geek4ever> cat /etc lsb-release
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> diogo_79: sudo apt-get Install linux-headers-3.2.0-29-generic,
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> !ext4
[21:58] <ActionParsnip> loadid: Ext4 came in at Jauty
[21:58] <ActionParsnip> loadid: Jaunty (9.04)
[21:58] <ekranos> ext4 has to be suported
[21:58] <kevinlu310> loadid: It just happened like this twice in the month. suddenly stopped working. suddenly worked again. Don't know why.
[21:58] <loadid> 9.04 it is
[21:59] <loadid> kevinlu310: what programs do you have open when it happens?
[21:59] <loadid> anything that could take control of the sound card?
[21:59] <kevinlu310> loadid: just firefox, terminals, thunderbird.
[22:00] <wastrel> i figured out where my cssh windows went
[22:01] <wastrel> i have 2 displays and they're different sizes, cssh using the absolute width to place windows
[22:01] <kevinlu310> loadid: Oh, forgot to mention. I used pithos before the problem happened.
[22:01] <diogo_79> now i have install this linux-headers-3..2.0-29-generic do i have to restart the server
[22:01] <wastrel> so they were "above" my smaller screen
[22:01] <diogo_79> ?
[22:02] <kevinlu310> loadid: My guess pithos caused the problem.
[22:02] <bekks> diogo_79: no.
[22:02] <wastrel> i guess this is a cssh bug not a unity bug
[22:02] <diogo_79> so try to execute the make command again?
[22:02] <diogo_79> to compile the driver
[22:02] <diogo_79> ?
[22:04] <dem0n>  
[22:04] <dem0n> +
[22:05] <diogo_79> now when i try to execute make command gives me this error make: *** /lib/modules/3.2.0-29-generic-pae/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.
[22:06] <sawyer_> is there a channel for the Shotwell application?
[22:07] <loadid> sounds about right kevinlu310
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> diogo_79: http://www.aircrack-ng.org/doku.php?id=install_aircrack#build_-_no_such_file_or_directory   may help
[22:07] <wastrel> there's a whoopsie user in ubantu now?  super adorbs
[22:07] <housepage_> " Shotwell IRC discussion takes place on #shotwell at irc.gnome.org ." http://redmine.yorba.org/projects/shotwell/wiki
[22:07] <streulma> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[22:07] <loadid> sawyer_: #shotwell at irc.gnome.org
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> sawyer_: #shotwell   maybe
[22:07] <pangur> If I reboot, I shall be all on my own.  I am only able to speak here because I had my browser open.
[22:08] <sawyer_> loadid, ActionParsnip, thank you :)
[22:09] <pangur> If I reboot, I should not lose my data.  Is that correct?
[22:10] <rozmuq> hi, i can't install ati driver.. got some fglrx issue
[22:11] <streulma> rozmuc: http://wiki.cchtml.com
[22:12] <streulma> rozmuq: try http://wiki.cchtml.com
[22:12] <loadid> remove the fglrx driver first roxmuq
[22:12] <loadid> remove the fglrx driver first rozmuq
[22:13] <pangur> calum@ubuntu:~/Documents$ cp *.* /media/POCKET/ub2012oct seems to have transferred most of my files.
[22:13] <rozmuq> loadid, i did, it didnt help. http://pastebin.com/0N52ssS8
[22:13] <rozmuq> that's the error log.
[22:13] <loadid> pangur: where did it copy to?
[22:13] <loadid> rozmuq: install kernel headers
[22:13] <pangur> To my POCKET external drive, loadid
[22:14] <rozmuq> loadid, how do i do that?
[22:14] <pangur> At least that is what I think :)
[22:14] <rozmuq> loadid, i'm after fresh install of 12.10
[22:15] <pangur> When I do /media/POCKET/ub2012oct$ ls I see all my files
[22:15] <loadid> rozmuq: what kernel are you using. "sudo uname -r"
[22:15] <rozmuq> loadid, sudo uname -r
[22:15] <rozmuq> oops
[22:15] <loadid> pangur: i would think a recursive option is needed
[22:15] <PatrickDickey> rozmuq, what graphics card do you have?
[22:15] <rozmuq> 3.5.0-17-generic
[22:15] <rozmuq> PatrickDickey,  ati radeon 4850hd
[22:16] <pangur> cp -r ?
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> why does uname need sudo, rozmuq
[22:16] <loadid> are you on wubi pangur?
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> loadid: the -r for uname doesn't mean recursive
[22:16] <Jisawesome2> 'Is there a way to not use dhclient to connect to the internet?
[22:16] <loadid> ohh
[22:16] <loadid> thought it was
[22:16] <loadid> i know it -r
[22:16] <rozmuq> guys :D
[22:16] <loadid> or maybe -R
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> loadid: I suggest you read:  man uname
[22:17] <loadid> read!?
[22:17] <PatrickDickey> rozmuq http://askubuntu.com/questions/202857/cant-install-ati-proprietary-drivers-in-12-10/202885#202885
[22:17] <pangur> yes loadid, I am
[22:17] <loadid> not sure about wubi pangur...
[22:17] <ActionParsnip> pangur: are you in the liveCD now?
[22:17] <PatrickDickey> The ATI Driver is a beta driver (the one that will work with Ubuntu 12.10) and it won't support any card older than a Radeon 5000.
[22:17] <SuperMiguel>  so if im setting up an mdadm raid 0, ill have first create 3 partitions on each of the drives, boot, swap and / .. Then create 2 arrays using mdadm one for / and another for swap... and put boot on any of the initial non raided partitions?
[22:17] <PatrickDickey> Radeon HD 50000 *
[22:17] <pangur> No, ActionParsnip.  I still have other directories to copy
[22:18] <ActionParsnip> pangur: yes, but have you mounted the wubi disk in the liveCD?
[22:20] <pangur> ActionParsnip: the latest live CD that I have is version Ubuntu 10.10, except a Mint thing.  I do not know how to mount the wubi disk
[22:21] <pangur> Is there a liveCD version in my windows?
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> pangur: that is good enough
[22:21] <daviddoria> I was having trouble with 12.04 where my mouse freezes for about 1 second every minute (REALLY annoying haha). I upgraded to 12.10 hoping something would get fixed, but alas it did not. Is there anything else I can try to get this mouse (that used to work fine) to not freeze constantly?
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> pangur: Maverick can access Ext4
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> pangur: I gave the command to mount the file but if you get to the livecd and web access, we can advise
[22:22] <pangur> I have put the 10.10 CD into my drive
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> pangur: ok, boot to it by telling your BIOS to boot CD first
[22:24] <pangur> I won't lose my data?
[22:25] <pangur> I can see wubildr and wubildr.mbr in my /host
[22:26] <dem0n> hmm writing this lubuntu image onto my sdcard using dd is taking a really long time, is this normal?
[22:26] <wilee-nilee> daviddoria, This a plugin, or a bluetooth...etc
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> pangur: you are only bootinig to the CD, it won't change the system at all
[22:26] <pangur> I can see ubuntu there too.  Is that the same as a liveCD?
[22:26] <dem0n> it has problem been over 20 minutes...
[22:26] <pangur> OK
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> pangur: Its hilarious how you are so protective of your data but have zero backup
[22:26] <loadid> yes dem0n, dd takes a very long time... depends on the size you are copying
[22:26] <daviddoria> wilee-nilee, just a standard microsoft plugin usb mouse
[22:27] <loadid> mabey try the -v option next time to give you status
[22:27] <wilee-nilee> daviddoria, Have you tried any other mouse?
[22:27] <loadid> maybe*
[22:27] <pangur> ActionParsnip: I agree with your assessment of my stupidity.
[22:28] <dem0n> loaddid: i think the image size file is about 4gigs, and i know it can take much longer because it is an sdcard which wont process as fast as say a regular hard drive
[22:28] <ActionParsnip> pangur: boot the liveCD, mount the NTFS partition then make a new folder, you can then navigate to the folder with the root.disk file and run:  sudo mount -o loop root.disk /munt/point    and you can access your data
[22:28] <Jisawesome2> Does anyone know how I can make my server connect automatically to the internet rather than me having to type a dhclient command
[22:28] <loadid> 4gigs.. will take hours dem0n
[22:29] <cowsquad> I having problems with ubuntu 12.10. Every time I open the browser at school, it requires to sign in, in order to have access to the internet. But for some reason, my browser never shows that page. it keeps loading and loading. Any ideas?
[22:30] <wastrel> cowsquad: firefox?
[22:30] <loadid> cowsquad: your school firewall may not play well with linux
[22:30] <wilee-nilee> cowsquad, You have like noscript installed blocking flash?
[22:31] <wilee-nilee> have you tried installing another browser
[22:31] <cowsquad> mmm firefox or chronium. same stuff. But sometimes it connects fine and sometimes it doesnt .
[22:31] <loadid> firefox noscript
[22:31] <cowsquad> wilee-nilee, what is that noscript installed blocking flash?
[22:32] <loadid> cowsquad: can you show a screenshot of it failing?
[22:32] <wilee-nilee> cowsquad, noscript is a FF addon that blocks flash, if you don't know what it is then I would think you have not installed it.
[22:32] <Svetlana_> Sorry for throwing in another issue, but I'm trying to run vsftpd on my Ubuntu Server 12.10 but Upstart doesn't seem to want to start it at all, even though sudo vsftpd works fine.
[22:33] <loadid> Svetlana_: sudo restart vsftpd
[22:33] <bjorkintosh> so my samsung rv515 is supposed to have 4 gigs of ram, but free reports 3447.
[22:33] <wilee-nilee> cowsquad, The main question here is there any add ons that would be blocking what you need like adblock...etc.
[22:33] <bjorkintosh> did they lie about the ram available?
[22:33] <Svetlana_> loadid: restart: Unknown instance:
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> bjorkintosh: are you running 64bit OS?
[22:33] <bjorkintosh> ActionParsnip, correct.
[22:33] <cowsquad> loadid. Is like when you go to sturbucks, you are redirect to a sign in page. Same thing in my school. I have to enter a username and password, but i never make it to that page, it keep loading and loading
[22:33] <loadid> Svetlana_: sudo start vsftpd
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> bjorkintosh: then you have onboard graphics which is using some system RAM for itself
[22:34] <bjorkintosh> it is an amd e2 vision apu.
[22:34] <bjorkintosh> ActionParsnip, can i control that in any way?
[22:34] <cowsquad> wiliee-nilee the only adds ons I have installed is adobe flash.
[22:34] <loadid> yeah, you may have something blocking scripts from running.  Does it happen in one browser and not the other cowsquad?
[22:34] <bjorkintosh> it is also oddly enough, using swap, even though ram is not fully maxed out.
[22:34] <Svetlana_> loadid: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1301363/
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> bjorkintosh: you can probably set the amount of RAM used by the GeForce315M uses in BIOS
[22:35] <cowsquad> loadid, it happens with firefox and chronium
[22:35] <wilee-nilee> cowsquad, Hehe starbucks I use opera to sign in there my FF has a bunch of block addons,
[22:35] <bretolius>  Quick question about the new format menu:  If I have one drive formated with an Ext2 partition, and the rest for LVM, where do I install the boot loader to?  /dev/sda or /dev/sda1 (where the ext2 partion lives)?
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> bjorkintosh: you can set swappiness lower and you will use RAM less
[22:35] <bjorkintosh> aha.
[22:35] <Svetlana_> like i said, upstart doesn't start vsftpd.
[22:35] <bjorkintosh> i will look into that. thanks ActionParsnip
[22:35] <bekks> bretolius: /dev/sda
[22:35] <bretolius> ok
[22:35] <loadid> advertised ram and available amount of memory are somewhat different... like a 2x4 not being 2"x4" kind thing
[22:35] <rozmuq> how do i check if my graphic card is installed correctly?
[22:35] <wastrel> Svetlana_: is it inetd?  maybe what about /etc/init.d/
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> bjorkintosh: you have enough RAM for Ubuntu, I wouldn't sweat it
[22:35] <wastrel> iono from vsftpd
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> rozmuq: sudo lshw -C display
[22:36] <pangur> ActionParsnip, I am back
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> pangur: in liveCD?
[22:36] <IboS> hello ActionParsnip
[22:36] <pangur> I am now in live CD
[22:36] <Svetlana_> wastrel: ubuntu 12.10, upstart replaces init.d
[22:36] <pangur> 10.10
[22:36] <IboS> ActionParsnip: i'm so happy to see round' here
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> pangur: cool, mount the Windows partition using nautilus
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> IboS: I'm always somewhere ;)
[22:36] <loadid> Svetlana_: start vsftpd if it's not already running
[22:36] <Svetlana_> loadid: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1301363/
[22:37] <rozmuq> ActionParsnip, http://pastebin.com/Qf1V8H2U
[22:37] <cowsquad> wilee-nilee is there any way to fix the blocking thing on ubuntu
[22:37] <Svetlana_> loadid: <Svetlana_> like i said, upstart doesn't start vsftpd.
[22:37] <loadid> Svetlana_: looks like it's started
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> rozmuq: looks good, you are using the proprietary driver
[22:37] <Svetlana_> loadid: did you read the entire paste?
[22:38] <Svetlana_> there is no vsftpd process.
[22:38] <Svetlana_> i cannot connect to 192.168.1.64:21.
[22:38] <Svetlana_> there is no ftp server.
[22:38] <wilee-nilee> cowsquad, I'm talking about installed add ons that block.
[22:38] <rozmuq> ActionParsnip, i used this guide. bu ti have to say, after reboot i didn't got unity runing, i had to start it from the console.
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> Svetlana_: can you connect to FTP on the local system by connecting to localhost
[22:39] <cowsquad> wilee-nilee, You i disable my add ons then?
[22:39] <ActionParsnip> rozmuq: run:  unity --replace   in ALT+F2    does it run?
[22:39] <cowsquad> i meant should I
[22:39] <Svetlana_> ActionParsnip: there is no vtsfpd process, vsftpd is not running, vsftpd will not start, localhost is not the linux machine (I am SSHing into it)
[22:39] <ThePendulum> Greetings
[22:40] <rozmuq> ActionParsnip, my screen blinked a few times.
[22:40] <ActionParsnip> Svetlana_: can you start the service? Why not use SFTP which you get when you install openssh-server
[22:40] <Svetlana_> I cannot start the service, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1301363/
[22:40] <wilee-nilee> cowsquad,  I don't know what your add ons are, take a look at what they do I guess, this may or may not be the problem. You suggest chrome does not work as well, check add ons there if you have any, we have to somewhat guess here.
[22:40] <mattrae> hi, is there a way to enforce a list of packages installed on a list of servers. to keep the installed packages in sync. wondering if there is a quick tool to do this
[22:40] <Svetlana_> I don't want FTP over SSH, which is the only thing that SFTP does.
[22:40] <pangur> Do I do that just by selecting Boot , ActionParsnip ?
[22:41] <wastrel> what does ls -l /etc/init.d/vsftpd look like
[22:41] <wilee-nilee> cowsquad, Check with the IT department there.
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> Svetlana_: FTP over SSH, are you kidding? Why not use SFTP? You have that running now.....
[22:41] <ThePendulum> I am trying to jail a user to /var/www/users/andele, but so far I ended up with a Broken pipe error when trying to connect with SSH. I most certainly did something wrong.
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> pangur: if that is the label of the NTFS partition, yes
[22:41] <pangur> Boot shows me all my Windows directories
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> pangur: ok, run:  mount     and pastebin the output
[22:42] <cowsquad> thank wilee-nilee
[22:42] <Svetlana_> ActionParsnip: SFTP doesn't do what I want to do, I would like to use vsftpd instead, thank you.
[22:42] <ActionParsnip> Svetlana_: yourcall
[22:42] <Svetlana_> wastrel: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 21 May 23 18:11 /etc/init.d/vsftpd -> /lib/init/upstart-job
[22:43] <rozmuqq> ActionParsnip, so? it blinked a few times.. and the strange thing is that when i close the x-chat and it asks if i want to minimize it and i press yes, it looks like it minimizing to tray but where is the tray, i can't see the x-chat runing ...and it's like i opened a new x-chat.
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> rozmuqq: have you rebooted the OS, it should load by default
[22:43] <eightbitbubsy> hi, ok bye
[22:44] <pangur> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1301382/ ActionParsnip
[22:45] <pangur> /dev/sda2 is already mounted on /media/Boot
[22:45] <Svetlana_> Could anyone else help me? I still have no solution for my problem with vsftpd.
[22:46] <jrib> Svetlana_: just state your actual problem
[22:46] <XiaolinDraconis> how can i remove unity from default in Ubuntu Builder?
[22:46] <Svetlana_> jrib: I did, several times, the most someone has told me was "why don't you use sftp"
[22:46] <medi_> hello
[22:46] <ActionParsnip> pangur: cool, now run:  sudo mkdir /media/wubi; sudo mount -o loop /media/Boot/ubuntu/disks/root.disk /media/wubi
[22:46] <Svetlana_> jrib: Upstart won't start vsftpd even though it think it does: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1301363/
[22:47] <jrib> Svetlana_: no point in asking "can anyone help me?" without being specific.  New people joined the channel, etc.  Better to *just* repeat the question
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> pangur: any error messages or output?
[22:47] <medi_> ssh help please
[22:47] <jrib> !ask | medi_
[22:47] <jrib> Svetlana_: ubuntu version?
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> medi_: ask away
[22:48] <medi_> how can we use ssh command?
[22:48] <Svetlana_> jrib: Server 12.10
[22:48] <jrib> !ssh | medi_
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> medi_: ssh user@servername
[22:48] <jrib> Svetlana_: pastebin the init script for sftpd
[22:48] <jrib> ^v
[22:48] <HardDisk> ActionParsnip, I was able to recover my deleted files completely, unfortunately I had to use an XPE bootable windows disk and use r-tools to recover from ext4, testdisk/photorec/foremost and other tools did not recover them.
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> medi_: is the format of the command, you can add the -X  (capital X) to enable X forwarding
[22:48] <medi_> can you give an example
[22:48] <medi_> please
[22:49] <jrib> medi_: ActionParsnip just gave you an example. Also see ubottu's link
[22:49] <Svetlana_> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1301393/
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> medi_: ssh -X username@servername
[22:49] <medi_> how to get servername
[22:49] <jrib> Svetlana_: you don't have anything in /etc/init/ ?
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> HardDisk: if you had a backup, you wouldn't have needed to exert all that effort
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> medi_: its the server you want to connect to
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> medi_: there is no single answer
[22:50] <pangur> ubuntu@ubuntu:/media/Boot$  sudo mkdir /media/wubi; sudo mount -o loop /media/Boot/ubuntu/disks/root.disk /media/wubi ... mount: can't find /media/Boot/ubuntu/disks/root.disk /media/wubi in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[22:50] <medi_> if i know the website how can i get servername
[22:50] <HardDisk> ActionParsnip, I wanted to undelete files that were in a home directory, a simple task. do I need to backup on an hourly basis?
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> pangur: then you can use TAB to complete the folder names, start the thing you are mounting at /media/Boot   then use TAB t complete the folder names
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> HardDisk: backup as often as is necessary for your needs
[22:51] <Svetlana_> jrib: Sorry, I haven't used Upstart before. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1301399/
[22:51] <jrib> HardDisk: if you want to be able to undelete, then move things to trash instead of deleting them
[22:51] <HardDisk> It wasn't necessary, I do backups every 12hrs, it happens that one folder was deleted.
[22:51] <wilee-nilee> HardDisk, Back up as needed, you would know what you can't loose.
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> pangur: I don't use wubi (and I don't think anyone should) so I cannot tell you the exact folder path
[22:52] <ActionParsnip> pangur: it will be something like the command I gave, just that the thing mounted to will change in the command, the mount point will be the same
[22:52] <HardDisk> my simple task, was a folder with files was deleted, all i needed was to undelete them. Simple task. I'm not attacking or defending, just stating that there should be an easier or more effective method that's all.
[22:53] <ActionParsnip> HardDisk: undeleting is a pain in any OS, requiring tools and time
[22:53] <HardDisk> jrib, I did not delete those files, it was a user that deleted their own files. I requested a solution. This was a prior task.
[22:53] <opcode0> maaan. be grateful that you could recover them.
[22:53] <Cong> don't think anyone should means the opposite
[22:53] <HardDisk> ActionParsnip, I understand, which is why I was telling you how I did it.
[22:53] <jrib> HardDisk: what I said is still relevant
[22:53] <opcode0> it's nowhere in the specs of any fs (to my knowledge) that deleted files should be able to be recovered easily
[22:53] <wilee-nilee> HardDisk, put stuff in trash would be the simplest method.
[22:53] <jrib> Svetlana_: what's the output of « status vsftpd »?
[22:54] <Svetlana_> jrib: vsftpd stop/waiting
[22:54] <ActionParsnip> HardDisk: its good to share :)
[22:54] <HardDisk> jrib and wilee-nilee I understand, I am sharing with ActionParsnip I do not need a lecture. Thank you.
[22:54] <daviddoria> wilee-nilee I just switched it - i'll report back if it still hangs
[22:54] <ActionParsnip> HardDisk: no worries dude
[22:54] <jrib> Svetlana_: heh, interesting.  Can you start vsftpd without issues if you just execute /usr/sbin/vsftpd directly (with sudo presumably)?
[22:55] <Svetlana_> jrib: yes
[22:55] <wilee-nilee> It's only a lecture if you perceive it as such, was not meant to be one. ;)
[22:55] <HardDisk> Svetlana_, have you considered webmin with the proftpd module?
[22:55] <Svetlana_> HardDisk: I've considered switching to a windows server :)
[22:56] <jrib> Svetlana_: have you checked the bug tracker?
[22:56] <HardDisk> Svetlana_, I've had issues with vsftpd occassionally, but webmid and proftpd does work flawlessly.
[22:56] <HardDisk> webmin*
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> !webmin
[22:56] <HardDisk> really?
[22:56] <bekks> yes.
[22:56] <HardDisk> it works flawlessly on 12.04
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> !ebox
[22:57] <Svetlana_> jrib: i haven't
[22:57] <HardDisk> and webmin recently did come with an update 1.600
[22:57] <jrib> Svetlana_: what's in your /etc/vsftpd.conf?
[22:58] <bjorkintosh> ActionParsnip, you were correct about the ram usage.
[22:58] <bjorkintosh> it is being consumed by my graphics card.
[22:58] <pangur> ActionParsnip, root.disk is at /media/Boot/ubuntu/disks/root.disk (as in your command) according to nautilus.
[22:58] <HardDisk> I think ubottu may need an update.
[22:58] <bjorkintosh> speaking of which, is there a notable performance boost in installing native AMD Radeon drivers over what ubuntu provides?
[22:58] <ActionParsnip> pangur: sudo mount -o loop  /media/Boot/ubuntu/disks/root.disk /media/wubi
[22:59] <Svetlana_> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1301413/
[22:59] <HardDisk> bjorkintosh, if it's an APU, then I can say no.
[22:59] <Guest84629> I need some help with Ubuntu Studio, specifically, the menu.
[23:00] <Guest84629> anybody here to help me with the menu in Ubuntu Studio?
[23:00] <jrib> Svetlana_: weird that upstart returns a pid
[23:01] <pangur> That gave no error message.
[23:01] <ActionParsnip> pangur: great, then run:  nautilus /media/wubi     and you should see your filesystem
[23:01] <HardDisk> I still stand by using the latest version of webmin and ubuntu, as many well noted blogs and respectable users have suggested.
[23:01] <Svetlana_> jrib: yes, that is why i came here.
[23:01] <xrs1> i have an evo n610c. when i unplug it from power source the LCD dims 20% (all ubuntu 12.04.1 & 12.10). I have adjusted the power management settings in every way I can see to set it in the settings manager. Nothing about power management in the BIOS. is there anything I can do to get it to stop dimming when I unplug it from the wall?
[23:01] <pangur> I see 64GB filesystem :)
[23:01] <ActionParsnip> pangur: you can now copy your junk to the USB storage
[23:02] <pangur> lol
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> pangur: if you had a real install, you could simply click the partition like you did in NTFS and access the data
[23:02]  * pangur is feeling really sheepish
[23:02] <dem0n> is this a normal output for dd: dd: writing to `/dev/sdb1': Input/output error
[23:02] <dem0n> or did i mess up?
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> dem0n: you will need sudo for that
[23:03] <jrib> Svetlana_: does vsftpd log somewhere?  Does it indicate it actually started when you used upstart?
[23:03] <xrs1> sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g
[23:03] <dem0n> this is the full output
[23:03] <dem0n> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1301418/
[23:03] <Svetlana_> jrib: the only log i've found is from when i ran it manually with sudo
[23:03] <jjamez> can somebody please help me???
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> pangur: do you have access to your data now?
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> jjamez: ask and see
[23:03] <dem0n> actionparsnip: no it had been running for a couple of hours
[23:04] <pangur> ActionParsnip, not all of it.
[23:04] <jrib> Svetlana_: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/wiki/Debugging :)
[23:04] <pangur> Permissions issue
[23:04] <jjamez> I have a big problem with the start menu.
[23:04] <XiaolinDraconis> is there a command line method for changing to gnome instead of unity?
[23:04] <Svetlana_> jrib: vsftpd doesn't like being run by an user different than the owner of vsftp.conf, which is root, instead quitting with a 500 error, i'm assuming that might be what's happening
[23:04] <Svetlana_> jrib: what user does upstart run services as
[23:04] <OerHeks> !nounity
[23:04] <jrib> Svetlana_: should be root unless the job defines it otherwise
[23:04] <pangur> It claims that I do not have permissions to read it.
[23:04] <dem0n> i would appreciate if someone could look at the website http://paste.ubuntu.com/1301418/ and tell me if dd completed correctly or did it error and NOT finish correctly
[23:05] <rozmuq> my unity won't start at startup..
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> pangur: try:   gksudo nautilus /media/wubi     after closing the nautilus's you have open
[23:05] <OerHeks> dem0n, looks fine
[23:06] <jrib> Svetlana_: I'd try adding an echo statement right before the exec and redirecting stdout and stderr (as outlined in that link) somewhere
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> XiaolinDraconis: unity is a shell for Gnome, so by using Unity, you are using Gnome
[23:06] <XiaolinDraconis> ActionParsnip, well thanks for that tidbit, and the question remains the same ;p
[23:06] <snark> dem0n, you might have run out of space   just
[23:06] <jrib> Svetlana_: it's also interesting that it has this "respawn" in the job definition
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> XiaolinDraconis: if you want the old style Gnome desktop, install the gnome-panel package
[23:07] <snark> dem0n, there should be no error if all went well
[23:07] <jjamez> SOMEBODY PM ME IF YOU CAN HELP!!!
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> XiaolinDraconis: or install xfce4 and use the XFCE desktop, it runs a lot like Gnome2 and you can run all you Gnome apps there without issue
[23:07] <dem0n> snark: i don't think i ran out of space, it is a 16gig sd card with nothing on it
[23:07] <XiaolinDraconis> ActionParsnip, im pretty sure Ubuntu Builder did that when i chose gnome as the DE
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> jjamez: you haven't given us anydetail, so how can we?
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> XiaolinDraconis: then log off and change the session type
[23:08] <dem0n> OerHeks: you think everything looks okay? do you know why it said input/output error?
[23:08] <snark> dem0n, ok   but you still shouldnt get any errors
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> jjamez: are we supposed to guess your issue?
[23:08] <XiaolinDraconis> ActionParsnip, builder doesnt give that option
[23:08] <pangur> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1301427/ ActionParsnip
[23:08] <jjamez> Okay, sorry. Here's the scoop. There is an extra folder in the menu that says "Sound & Video", and a sub-folder that says the same.
[23:09] <rozmuq> guys i got some issue with unity, it won't start at startup, i have to run it from the terminal.. 12.10 64bit.
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> pangur: try:   sudo nautilus     then (Its fine in the liveCD)
[23:09] <reuf> if you go to your bash and if your system us using nautilus and type gvfs-info /path/to/antyhing you will get info on that folder/file - you can change the position of your icon by gvfs-set-attribute - but you have to do f5 on Desktop to see the change - now, i want to know if bash can do refresh f5 on my ubuntu Desktop - or some python script or something to execute from bash?
[23:09] <jjamez> I can't get rid of either, and it does not show up in Alacarte.
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> jjamez: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc     please
[23:10] <jjamez> Precise.
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> jjamez: which desktop are you using?
[23:10] <rozmuq> can some 1 pls help me? :/
[23:10] <jjamez> xfce
[23:10] <snark> dem0n, records in must *match* records out
[23:11] <Svetlana_> jrib: do i just replace "exec /usr/sbin/vsftpd" with "exec /usr/sbin/vsftpd >> /tmp/upstart.log 2>&1"
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> jjamez: have you rebooted recently?
[23:11] <OerHeks> dem0n, see "Make sure the write has finished with sync: sudo sync" in http://undergroundmod.com/?p=1238
[23:11] <jjamez> Yes, I turn off my computer every night.
[23:12] <simplew> where can i ask to package polkit-kde-kcmodules-1 ?
[23:12] <jrib> Svetlana_: I think that should work; I haven't done this before
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> jjamez: if you make a new user and log in there, is it the same?
[23:12] <Svetlana_> jrib: me neither. either way, /tmp/upstart.log is completely blank.
[23:12] <jrib> Svetlana_: but it was created?
[23:12] <Svetlana_> yes.
[23:12] <jjamez> let me check...
[23:13] <jrib> Svetlana_: well taht's some information I guess.  Does vsftpd fork itself and end up running as another user?
[23:13] <Svetlana_> jrib: it shouldn't. doing "sudo vsftpd" hangs the bash prompt while it's running (and it works perfectly fine) until i ctrl-c, which quits it
[23:14] <Svetlana_> there is no console output, i should add.
[23:14] <dem0n> OerHeks: ya i used sync, thanks though =-)
[23:14] <dem0n> OerHeks: i appreciate your help big time
[23:14] <snark> dem0n, stick the card in a usb cardreader and try again
[23:14] <Svetlana_> jrib: doing simply "vsftpd" returns "500 OOPS: config file not owned by correct user, or not a file" and quits
[23:14] <jrib> Svetlana_: 2 ideas: 1) can you pass some flag to vsftpd that increases verbosity? 2) did you check this pid that upstart spits out is actually not running /something/?
[23:15] <dem0n> snark: ya it looks like i am going to have to try and do it again
[23:15] <Svetlana_> jrib: i've checked the pid, it doesn't exist.
[23:16] <jjamez> yes, it is...
[23:16] <OerHeks> dem0n, my bad, now i see 1 missing block :(
[23:16] <jjamez> exactly the same, every user.
[23:16] <dem0n> i swear nothing ever goes fucking easy for me...
[23:16] <dem0n> excuse my language
[23:17] <wajeemba> Hello All, having issues using HDMI on my ASUS n53j. Tried both free and proprietary drivers. Is HDMI a common issue for GNU/Linux?
[23:18] <Svetlana_> jrib: vsftpd doesn't seem to have any verbosity options.
[23:18] <pangur> ActionParsnip, I have realised that I have photos and stuff that I need to copy too.  Once I have finished the copying, do I then just reinstall?  The wubi version I am using because I have a Medion machine which does not seem to allow me to partition my machine.  That is why I am stuck with wubi.
[23:18] <ronrom> im amazed with KDE,why ubuntu keeps using GNOME when KDE its so much better?
[23:18] <jjamez> ActionParsnip?
[23:18] <snark> wajeemba, for sound issues  yes!
[23:18] <sarah0153> hey
[23:19] <OerHeks> wajeemba, open terminal: alsamixer ( and see if settings are oke)
[23:19] <jrib> Svetlana_: is this the default vsftpd.conf?
[23:20] <Svetlana_> jrib: i made a few changes to it such as allowing users to write files and locking them to /home/(user)
[23:20] <OerHeks> ronrom, join #kubuntu :-)
[23:20] <sarah0153> PENIS.
[23:20] <jrib> Svetlana_: did it used to work with the default one?
[23:20] <Svetlana_> jrib: it works perfectly fine as it should as a ftp server when i run it manually
[23:21] <Svetlana_> jrib: upstart-wise, i actually don't know
[23:21] <dem0n> i don't have to format my sdcard right? dd will do that for me wont it?
[23:21] <jrib> Svetlana_: could you revert to the default conf file temporarily just to troubleshoot?
[23:21] <snark> no
[23:22] <jjamez> Is ActionParsnip still here?
[23:22] <profligacy> why is 'ping' sometimes called the Packet INternet Groper?
[23:22] <min|dvir|us> profligacy: it's not; you made that up.
[23:22] <profligacy> min|dvir|us: good point.
[23:22] <snark> profligacy, thats its real name!
[23:23] <profligacy> ha, any idea why snark?
[23:23] <Jordan_U> !ot | profligacy
[23:23] <snark> profligacy, do you know what a gopher is?
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> jjamez: then you know its not user config, have you asked in #xubuntu as well?
[23:24] <jjamez> i'll go ask
[23:24] <Svetlana_> ok, jrib, that's weird: root     14971  0.0  0.0  23352  1348 ?        Ss   21:24   0:00 /usr/sbin/vsftpd
[23:24] <doomlord> is it possible to configure ubuntu's taskbar icon click to show an app's windows from *all* desktops
[23:24] <Svetlana_> it actually runs with the defaults.
[23:25] <Svetlana_> even though i didn't change anything more than standard settings documented on several vsftpd tutorials
[23:25] <ActionParsnip> profligacy: its called ping because that is the payload of the packet, it is returned to the sender but the payload is changed to 'pong'
[23:25] <jrib> Svetlana_: interesting... could you put up a diff on pastebin?
[23:26] <Svetlana_> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1301450/
[23:27] <jrib> Svetlana_: want to make bets on which line is causing issues? :P  try to narrow it down by changing one at a time
[23:27] <Svetlana_> the weird part is sudo vsftpd works fine
[23:28] <jrib> Svetlana_: agreed
[23:28] <Svetlana_> but sudo start vsftpd doesn't
[23:30] <jrib> Svetlana_: I can't find "allow_writable_chroot" at http://vsftpd.beasts.org/vsftpd_conf.html
[23:31] <jrib> Svetlana_: out of curiousity, what's the output of « which vsftpd »?
[23:31] <Svetlana_> jrib: yeah apparently that's the one.. i got it from http://www.benscobie.com/fixing-500-oops-vsftpd-refusing-to-run-with-writable-root-inside-chroot/
[23:32] <Svetlana_> jrib: .conf is original, .tmp is my edited one
[23:33] <AndChat736049> Hello I have a major problem I tried to do the 12.10 upgrade and now unity doesn't load I need to get to command line but how can I do it????
[23:33] <AndChat736049> I was coming from 12.04
[23:33] <pangur> I think that I shall leave all this backing up until the morning, ActionParsnip.  I take it that once I have completed salvaging my files that I should simply reinstall and start from scratch again?
[23:34] <sarah0153> ActionPenis
[23:34] <pangur> I am grateful to you (and those who were helping me earlier) for keeping my spirits up.  Thanks for your advice.
[23:36] <AndChat736049> Hello how do I kill unity and access command line? I need to save my system asap
[23:36] <snark> profligacy, Definition of grope: to looks for something blindly!
[23:36] <jrib> AndChat736049: umm, « sudo service lightdm stop » I suppose.  Why do you want to do this?
[23:38] <AndChat736049> I cannot currently do anything on my computer the system upgrade failed
[23:38] <AndChat736049> Is there a way to reset things?
[23:38] <jrib> AndChat736049: be more specific.  What do you mean, "the system upgrade failed"?
[23:39] <AndChat736049> I don't know what happened. I see the login screen but when I login unity doesn't load
[23:39] <jrib> AndChat736049: create a fresh new user, does the issue persist?
[23:39] <AndChat736049> I can't launch applications except for the ones that autostart
[23:39] <jrib> AndChat736049: and did you actually get any sort of error from the upgrade?
[23:39] <AndChat736049> Don't you see I need the command line?
[23:39] <AndChat736049> No
[23:40] <jrib> AndChat736049: ctrl-alt-f1 will get you to a command line (ctrl-alt-f7 will get you back to X).  Where are you now?
[23:41] <AndChat736049> Ctrl alt f1 doesn't work
[23:41] <Svetlana_> jrib: solved: had to make vsftpd 3.0.2, ubuntu's repo is outdated and doesn't support allow-writeable-chroot
[23:41] <AndChat736049> I have no idea what version I'm running
[23:41] <AndChat736049> The installer just logged me out or something
[23:41] <jrib> Svetlana_: hmm
[23:41] <Svetlana_> jrib: ftp server up and running perfectly. thanks for the help.
[23:41] <jrib> Svetlana_: no problem
[23:42] <AndChat736049> How do I recover my encrypted home partition??
[23:42] <jrib> !encrypt | AndChat736049
[23:43] <AndChat736049> Jrib is therw anything I can try to try to fix things?
[23:43] <jrib> AndChat736049: what happens when you press ctrl-alt-f1?
[23:44] <AndChat736049> Nothing
[23:44] <jrib> AndChat736049: that's pretty weird.  Do you have a standrd keyboard?
[23:44] <AndChat736049> Laptop
[23:44] <Cong> hey guys is this possible? alias lsb="ls --block-size=" but the arguments are spaced out
[23:44] <jrib> AndChat736049: try fn-ctrl-alt-f1
[23:44] <AndChat736049> Bleeding edge laptop
[23:44] <AndChat736049> Doesn't work
[23:45] <AndChat736049> I'm not an idiot
[23:45] <jrib> AndChat736049: see if the guest login works
[23:45] <AndChat736049> I didn't get any menus
[23:45] <AndChat736049> I. Just got a blue background and mouse
[23:45] <jrib> AndChat736049: in the guest login?
[23:45] <jrib> !who | AndChat736049
[23:45] <AndChat736049> Yes
[23:45] <jrib> AndChat736049: reboot into recovery mode and create a new user.  Let's start there
[23:46] <AndChat736049> How do I do that?
[23:46] <AndChat736049> I'm on a cell phone
[23:46] <kantlivelong> can i upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04 instead of 12.10?
[23:46] <jrib> AndChat736049: when you reboot, hold shift, you will be presented with the grub menu where you can select "recovery mode"
[23:46] <jrib> kantlivelong: you have to upgrade to 12.04 even if you eventually want to get to 12.10
[23:46] <jrib> !upgrade | kantlivelong
[23:47] <kantlivelong> jrib: ah thanks :)
[23:47] <AndChat736049> Ok I'm in recovery... should I try to fix packages?
[23:47] <Cong> does holding down shift show the menu if GRUB_TIMEOUT=0
[23:47] <jrib> AndChat736049: if you want to.  I don't know what that actually does
[23:47] <tman> yes it does Cong
[23:48] <Don_Rad> hi, im using ubuntu 12.10 on a dell inspiron laptop 1545, im trying to check software updates but an error appears, and i can't go fhurter : E:Encountered a section with no Package: header, E:Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/packages.medibuntu.org_dists_quantal_non-free_i18n_Translation-en, E:The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[23:50] <ex0a> what is the best way to control the primary monitor and the display size and refresh rate of multiple monitors regardless of which port they are plugged in on the card? i know i used to use xorg.conf but with the later versions of ubuntu there isn't even an xorg.conf by default anymore
[23:50] <ex0a> should i still setup the conf file?
[23:51] <ex0a> one of my monitors reports a display resolution that is too high for it to actually display, and i would like the settings to be consistent at the login screen so i don't have to do xrandr hacks on login
[23:53] <wilee-nilee> Cong, You have to test that on some setups yes others no.
[23:56] <Cong> that's uncool. on some startups...
[23:57] <Cong> oh setups
[23:57] <boof> i accidentally installed windows vista on windows 7 partition. I'm using gparted and I wanted to know how to get rid of vista without messing anything else up further (if poss). Gparted screenshot: http://imgur.com/Xxo8S :)
[23:58] <wilee-nilee> Don_Rad, Take a look at this link. https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+question/202117
[23:58] <lcabreza2> hi, anybody knows an open source application where i can configure my wireless network , when people try to connect it will redirect to a specific website.
[23:59] <DaemonicApathy> kimberly: just use a Win7 disc to delete and overwrite that partition.