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stgraberhighvoltage: https://plus.google.com/u/0/104492301562638456962/posts/AAF63DRYQZ410:42
highvoltagenice12:38
KryppiYo!13:50
KryppiThis nerd here managed to delete his Java! :)13:50
Kryppi..Help? :<13:50
highvoltageKryppi: ah nice!13:51
Kryppihighvoltage, Totally! I wanted to set up a programming environment for Java, so I deleted it with sudo apt-get purge openjdk-\*13:54
KryppiFollowed this guide: http://www.wikihow.com/Install-Oracle-Java-on-Ubuntu-Linux13:54
highvoltageKryppi: yeah I guess they want you to remove the free java from your system first before installing the non-free one (not that that is even necessary since you can select your default java system when you have more than one installed)13:56
stgraberKryppi: just re-install icedtea-6-plugin that should pull the rest of the java packages back on your system13:56
stgraberassuming you didn't somehow destroy more things in the process, it should work fine ;)13:56
Kryppistgraber Will that be enough for me?13:57
highvoltageoh wow, we have a veloutin and a simpoir in here13:57
* highvoltage didn't realise13:57
stgraberKryppi: well, you'll have java back on your system after that13:58
stgraberthen if you want to develop, you'll probably want to install eclipse or something like that, but I'm not a java developer (and never plan to be) so can't really help much there ;)13:58
* veloutin sets mode +insight highvoltage 13:58
highvoltageI wish I could really have a flag like that today :)13:59
Kryppistgraber, okay, thanks. but I do want Eclipse, too - yeah.14:00
stgraberKryppi: "apt-get install eclipse" or installing it from the software-center should do the trick14:03
Kryppistgraber yeah, I'm at it. :)14:04
stgrabereclipse would also have pulled java back on your system at install time btw14:04
highvoltagestgraber: so there will be a slot for derivatives again at UDS, Jorge asked if we want in and I said yes14:05
highvoltagestgraber: so perhaps we could do the tasks session, the decent-length roadmap session (with the server parts) and then the plenary mini-summary14:06
stgraberhighvoltage: good that we have a bit of a plenary slot. Currently we have our generic work-for-raring session and the server informational session scheduled on Monday and Friday respectively14:07
stgraberI don't have scheduling rights this time around so they may end up jumping around a bit14:08
stgraberhighvoltage: anyway, the plenary session will be good to mention the things I blogged about basically, I don't think we'll have much more time than that14:08
highvoltageyeah, I guess we'll have 2.5 mins again, so it's just enough for a teaser and a few screenshots14:10
highvoltagewhich is ok14:10
stgraberand if the server session stays on friday, then we can tell whoever's interested to show up there14:12
highvoltageah, plenary slot has been upgraded to 7.5 minutes :)14:14
stgraberoh nice we may even be able to say something then ;)14:15
stgraberhighvoltage: with 7.5min I may even be able to get a basic demo with an edubuntu server, a win8 client and an edubuntu desktop client14:17
stgrabernot enough time to show the bring up of everything, but definitely enough to start the server, show the services running, boot win8 and edubuntu, show that they can login and show the output of "id" to show it's in the domain and resolves all the groups14:17
highvoltagestgraber: nice. also, I think we need a better name for "Edubuntu Server"14:18
veloutinEdubuntu Organization Server14:19
stgraberif you have suggestions, I'm happy to hear them but for now Edubuntu Server is at least generic enough that can I fit whatever I want in there without renaming ;)14:19
veloutinboom, fancy schmancy14:19
* highvoltage will try to think of something that implies Edubuntu Infrastructure Server but that sounds less iffy14:20
highvoltageif it was just doing samba I would go with Edubuntu Directory Server (but maybe we'd get sued by someone :p)14:21
stgraberhehe, yeah, getting a good name is tricky because it's completely modular so it won't always contain a directory, sometimes it'll just be a file server, sometimes just an ltsp cluster, ...14:22
simpoirEdubuntu Cloud Server :D14:22
highvoltage(EDS actually does have a nice ring to it, and calling something an ED server is also nice)14:22
veloutineDirectory?14:23
highvoltageah yes14:23
highvoltagethat exists right?14:23
stgraberhighvoltage: eds == evolution data server14:24
highvoltageheh, looking at synonyms for "infrastructure". there's "principal" :)14:25
veloutinEdubuntu Principal's Office14:27
highvoltagehehe14:27
highvoltage"Edubuntu Foundations Server" could be accurate too, but it's longwinded14:28
stgraberyeah and the user won't have a clue what that's about14:30
highvoltagethen maybe just go with something that's very descriptive. "Edubuntu Infrastructure Server"14:31
highvoltageeven though it's longwinded, at least it's accurate and to the point14:31
highvoltageI just think that going with just "Server" at this stage might be confusing since there will already be two kinds of Edubuntu servers and that could grow to 3-4 in the future14:31
stgraberwell, I'm not sure that if I was to deploy just the web hosting part of Edubuntu Server (as you'll be able to), this should still be called "Edubuntu Infrastructure Server"14:32
highvoltageI think it could, the web parts could be a subset, just like the samba part could be a subset (but I get your point)14:33
stgraberalso, what do you mean with 3-4 servers in the future?14:35
highvoltagehmm. unless we add something to the end of "Edubuntu Server", like "Edubuntu Server Platform"14:35
highvoltage(but then it's kind of inconsistent with "Edubuntu Terminal Server")14:35
highvoltagestgraber: well, forget I said that part (since they'd be subsets of Edubuntu Server)14:36
highvoltage(I might be just thinking aloud here, but...)14:40
highvoltageSo Edubuntu Server is more of a generic thing with a subset of servers, which would typically include these capabilities that would run in containers:14:41
highvoltage * Samba4 directory server14:41
highvoltage * Web hosting platform using Juju with Wordpress/Drupal/etc recipies14:41
highvoltageit's like a meta-server in that it isn't actually a server in itself.14:43
* highvoltage is too tired to think of branding stuff right now and spontaneously gives up for now14:43
simpoirso it would fit more to call it the Edubuntu Modular Platform14:43
highvoltagesimpoir: that's actually very nice! (for people who would know what that means)14:44
veloutinLegos!14:51
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