[00:12] bonjour [00:14] juanito_: bonjour [00:15] bonjour SIR_Taco [00:15] asv? [00:18] juanito_: mon français est terrible [00:18] ok I can speak english and french, and you? [00:19] juanito_: I speak English, and understand more French than I can speak [00:20] SIR_Taco, ok [00:21] SIR_Taco, tu as installé quelle version de kubuntu ? [00:22] I have found some resources online, but no luck so far. I access my NTFS drive (Windows partition) from Linux Drive and seem to have lost two very large folders (not just the files). [00:23] I do not believe the Windows partition had hibernated (normally it doesnt), but seem to have an issue. [00:23] I have tried using ntfsundelete but do not see the file (could have misread). === Dreadtower is now known as Breadflour [00:24] juanito_: which version? [00:25] epsilonorion, did you try http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk or http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec [00:25] SIR_Taco, simple curiosity, I'm using kubuntu 12.04 and you? [00:26] juanito_: 12.10 [00:26] juanito_: not yet, will do. If I run under linux, can I find them or should i switch to windows [00:27] epsilonorion, is your disk the same for win and linux ? [00:27] yes [00:28] epsilonorion, if you have dual boot, you can install testdisk on linux [00:28] doing it now [00:29] epsilonorion, but restore the data on your linux partition not on ntfs, if you make write access to your ntfs partition, I think it could only get worse [00:29] yeah, I knew better then to read the NTFS partition, but decided to do it. [00:31] or you can run testdisk on a liveUSB or liveCD http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Livecd . But as you have dual boot, installing testdisk is faster [00:34] trying now. Just hope I can find the folder [00:35] epsilonorion, yep I wish you good luck === pjoe_afk is now known as pjoe === pjoe is now known as pjoe_dj [01:35] hey, is someone here using a non English language and willing to test something for me? [01:36] could someone open telepathy, the chat application and confirm it's showing in the correct language. === shumski is now known as shumski_away [02:29] oh yeah?? [02:31] I decided to explore KDE 4 to see if it's still as buggy and sluggish as it was when I switched from KDE 4.5 to LXDE but, as soon as I installed the kubuntu-desktop package, my Firefox fonts suddenly got ugly. [02:32] I'm not sure whether installing kubuntu-desktop changed the font returned by "sans-serif", mucked up the default Lubuntu hinting settings, or both, but I'd really appreciate some help undoing whatever it did without having to just give up and `apt-get autoremove kubuntu-desktop` [02:33] Correction: ...changed the fonts returned by "sans-serif" and "monospace" [03:00] Never mind. Flushing out kde-config-gtk seems to have fixed the problem. No clue why it botched the font selection and hinting so much though. The font control panel seemed to be set the same as in Lubuntu. === Jimster480-Lapto is now known as Jimster480-L === ruben is now known as Guest57531 === infected is now known as Guest34250 [06:45] Hi, Can I upgrade using the installation dvd? [06:50] syria: I read here that the Kubuntu live-cd is not capable of doing that, however the Ubuntu alternate cd should be able to do so: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2010-August/004673.html [06:50] lordievader: But this will not help kubuntu users right? === Quetzalcoatl is now known as Guest11207 [06:51] syria: No probably not, there is probably some long and complicated path that can acomplish this. What is there against a regular upgrade? [06:53] lordievader: I have a very slow internet connection like 10/20 KB/S, And I lose the connection for may hours. [06:53] syria: Do you run the LTS right now? Because the upgrade isn't a necessary one. You could also reinstall. [06:54] lordievader: I am running under 12.04 LTS, Is that what you are asking me about? [06:54] syria: Yes, exactly. [06:55] lordievader: I can reinstall what? [06:56] lordievader: I have the 12.10 dvd. [06:56] syria: Depends a little on how you installed 12.04, but you can download the cd/dvd and reinstall the system using that cd/dvd. [06:57] lordievader: I have installed 12.04 from the CD and used the option "use entire disc" on portioning. [06:57] partitioning* [06:58] syria: I'm not sure if that method makes a seperate partition for /home, if not it should. Makes a reinstall easier. [06:59] lordievader: Could you please let me know what should I do with that reinstall thing? [06:59] lordievader: Maybe I have to make sure that I have a separate partition for /home. [07:00] syria: Actually I would stay with 12.04 unless you have a good reason to upgrade (drivers or something). The difference between 12.04 and 12.10 isn't much and 12.04 is supported for 5 years. [07:03] lordievader: I am not excited for upgrading but few days ago I was updating my system and suddenly lost the internet connection, And after restarting many problems appeared, for example, 1- the resolution of the screen will be changed automatically! and widgets doesn't appear on the desktop anymore. I think it is a problem with the kernel because It was on the list of the updater. [07:04] I lose the resolution of the screen that i want everytime i restart. [07:04] syria: I see, now I'm starting to drift towards reinstalling again... [07:04] hi, how can i minimize all windows with kde? [07:05] Hootch: I have a keybinding for it, let me look that up. [07:05] hm well :) in the shortcuts? [07:06] Hootch: Yes under Global Keyboard Shortcuts -> Kwin -> Show Desktop [07:06] syria: Reinstalling means doing a fresh install with 12.10, btw. [07:07] lordievader: I am thinking about recompiling the kernel. [07:07] yeah :) thx a lot [07:07] Hootch: No problem. [07:07] syria: Unless you are confident in your Linux skills I advise against that. [07:09] on more thing. If i close kopete, it will be really close or how can i get symbol in the taskbar? [07:10] Hootch: There was something in the settings, forgot what it was. Don't use Kopete personally. But you could enable the taskicon somewhere in the settings, why it isn't enabled on default is beyond me. [07:12] Kopete is unmaintained. isn't kde-telepathy available in 12.10? [07:12] if so that alone would be a good enough reason to update. [07:15] jbeatty: KTp can also be installed in 12.04 [07:15] *Ktp = kde telepathy [07:23] lordievader: Do you know how can I remove nvidia drivers? Or reinstall them again please? [07:24] syria: Yesterday the command "sudo apt-get remove nvidia-current nvidia-settings" worked for someone, so try that. [07:25] lordievader: It worked for me as well, I think my problem is with nvidia drivers, I will reinstall them. [07:25] lordievader: No it didnt work! [07:25] syria: Can you give more details? [07:26] lordievader: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1301971/ [07:27] syria: Looks to me like you have broken packages, run sudo apt-get -f install [07:28] lordievader: the same message again. [07:28] lordievader: This is the whole output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1301977/ [07:28] syria: Ok try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure" maybe with a -f. [07:29] lordievader: /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: please specify a package to reconfigure [07:29] lordievader: /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: nvidia-current is broken or not fully installed [07:30] syria: Nevermind then... It's the nvidia-current that is generating this problem. [07:30] lordievader: Yeah. [07:31] lordievader: Can I fix this with our reinstalling it all over again? [07:31] I mean reinstalling kubuntu. [07:32] syria: This might help you: http://www.tinyguru.com/ubuntu/qid204200.html [07:32] thnx I will read itl. [07:32] it.** === och is now known as Guest20664 [08:23] hello, how can I get a panel to float, and how can I add programs like tbird, nautilus, firefox, etc. to it? [08:24] CQ: yes of course [08:24] just unlock yout desktop and add a new panel [08:24] hi [08:24] I added the new panel, how can I resize it? Its stuck to the top of the screen... [08:24] catalyst control 12.6 version is support kernel 3.5 ? [08:25] CQ: my bad, i was talking about the panel plasmoid [08:25] CQ: theres a plasmoid that let's you add a floating panel to do what you just want to do [08:26] but as i don't use kubuntu i don't know it it's shipped with your distribution neither its name [08:26] CQ: if it's doesn't head up to kde-apps.org and you'll find it there [08:27] lolcat_: do you really need catalyst? radeon drivers are running better and better... [08:29] I just want something where I can put applications that I use often so they don't clutter up my task bar at the bottom [08:29] msx add white list me [08:30] lolcat_: if your chat isn't too much OT we can talk here [08:31] ok [08:31] lolcat_: besides the channel is dead, nobody else chatting so go ahead :) [08:31] my system kubuntu 12.10 & driver radeon hd 2400 pro [08:32] install from amd website [08:32] and after rebooting [08:32] resolution 1024x768 [08:32] windows are not seening [08:32] how do i solve this ? === Breadflour is now known as Dreadtower [08:33] lolcat_: well,i tell you, at least in (k)ubuntu -but i'm sure in every other distro too- you _never_ should install the driver that way but instead using kubuntu own's way to install catalyst [08:33] lolcat_: now, to solve your problem: [08:34] yea ubuntu 12.10 same problem [08:34] i would first go to /etc/X11 and rename the xorg.conf (if any) to anything else, then generate a new xorg.conf file: # X -configure [08:34] but 12.04 no problem [08:34] and copy backy the new xorg.conf from /root to /etc/X11 [08:36] lolcat_: you can allways try to launch your GUI without any xorg.conf at all since by now X will autodetect your hardware and autoconfigures itself every time it is launched [08:37] thx i will try this [08:55] Hello [08:55] please view this : http://imagebin.org/233073 [08:55] How can fix this problem ? [08:58] mah454: please describe your questions, don't expect people to follow a link with no previous information what it is about [08:59] !details | mah454 [08:59] mah454: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..." [09:00] Mamarok: I want to add printer in kubuntu , in "Windows printer via SAMBA" [09:00] browse buttom locked ! [09:00] I can not browse network ! [09:00] s/buttom/button [09:00] mah454: did you actually share the samba folders? [09:01] Mamarok: add printer [09:02] please view this picture : http://imagebin.org/233073 [09:07] well, to browse something you should actually enter something in that field, and enter your credentials, no? [09:07] I never used that as I don't have a samba share [09:07] seems to me that without authentication you can't browse in a network [09:08] seems logical to me === Dreadtower is now known as Breadflour [09:11] How do I cause certain applications to open in specific workspaces on startup? [09:13] Mamarok: is samba installed by default in kub 12.10? [09:14] msx: why would it? [09:14] msx : Samba Installed , but not fixed ! [09:14] Mamarok: doesn't ubuntu ship it? [09:14] I for example have no use for it [09:14] but it sure is in the repos, it is just not part of a default installation [09:15] Mamarok: me neither but ubuntu makes extensive use of it as the main way to share files and of course integrate to windoze networks [09:15] mah454: did you started the service after installing it? [09:16] msx: smbd and nmbd restarted [09:16] msx: provided you actually have a windows network, which is not the case of many people [09:16] so making it default makes no sense [09:17] mah454: now try adding an uri and see if the button is enabled [09:18] msx: not , not enabled ! [09:19] mah454: mmm, no idea how kubuntu manage the samba shares === CQ_ is now known as CQ [09:20] msx: ok [09:20] thank you :) [09:24] mah454: you'll see, i've been up all night instead getting some sleep (sounds familiar!?) so i'm really tired to think or search for anything else i don't have right at hand, sorry for not being a real help [09:24] msx: no problem , search with smbclient and smbtree [09:24] thank you :) [09:27] =D [09:27] mah454: what is your issue? [09:28] loadid: please view this : http://imagebin.org/233073 , samba can not browse network for add printer ! [09:29] loadid: dolphin can do this but in printer configuration , can not do this ! [09:34] mah454: have you tried just entering the info... smb://mah454/printer_name [09:34] get the actual address from dolphin [09:35] loadid: I know , but why can not browse ? [09:35] may not be mapped corectaly? not sure [10:04] hi === pjoe_dj is now known as pjoe_afk === pjoe_afk is now known as pjoe [10:51] Hey there - rekonq is driving me mad on this machine... it segfaults at least 10 times during each 8 hour work day. Anyone else experiencing such frequent crashes? [10:51] no. [10:52] As far as I could read in various forums I seem to be the only one [10:52] any site in particular? [10:52] completely random. [10:53] I think it _could_ have to do with flash or javascript. the more ads are involved, the quicker the segfaults seem to come, it seems to me, but that could also be just a feeling [10:53] do you have adblock enabled? [10:53] and are you subscribeed to a list? [10:53] no, completely stock install. barely two months old [10:53] neither. [10:54] try enable adblock then & see if it helps? [10:56] the bad thing is sometimes I actually find ads useful, this being my work machine and me being an admin also responsible for ordering stuff [10:56] about 0.5% of all ads are actually useful for me :/ [10:57] i think the adbllock system actually allows whitelisting ads on some sites. [10:57] I tried to use firefox, but after that allocated everything of my 6 GB RAM that it could get and a further 4 GB swap, I'm fed up with it. [10:58] I'm almost desperate enough to use chromium (which I don't like at all) [10:59] whitelisting could be an idea, but who knows where those ads are hosted that could turn out to be worthwile... seems like a PITA to keep the whitelist clean and not to restrictive at the same time === pjoe is now known as pjoe_afk === 77CABPD5H is now known as kilian_ [11:18] hello, i'm having trouble with my plasma-desktop, sometimes when the wifi gets disconnected (for instance i'm moving and the spot gets out of reach), the whole plasma-desktop gets unresponsive, and i have to switch off the wifi so that plasma-desktop responds again; then it shows me a message (http://i.imgur.com/aJnQN.png) and i can use my wifi normally (note that this is not a wifi issue, when the spots are in reach the wifi and pl === shumski is now known as shumski_away === shumski_away is now known as shumski === shumski is now known as shumski_away [12:18] hello, i'm having trouble with my plasma-desktop, sometimes when the wifi gets disconnected (for instance i'm moving and the spot gets out of reach), the whole plasma-desktop gets unresponsive, and i have to switch off the wifi so that plasma-desktop responds again; then it shows me a message (http://i.imgur.com/aJnQN.png) and i can use my wifi normally (note that this is not a wifi issue, when the spots are in reach the wifi and pl [12:20] i'm using the network management widget === Vito_away is now known as Vito [12:23] howdy all [12:40] hello, i'm having trouble with my plasma-desktop, sometimes when the wifi gets disconnected (for instance i'm moving and the spot gets out of reach), the whole plasma-desktop gets unresponsive, and i have to switch off the wifi so that plasma-desktop responds again; then it shows me a message (http://i.imgur.com/aJnQN.png) and i can use my wifi normally (note that this is not a wifi issue, when the spots are in reach the wifi and pl [12:40] my version of the network-management widget is 0.9.0.5 (nm09 20120930) [12:41] have you considered using wicd instead? [12:42] navlelo: ye i guess i could; is it better? [12:42] navlelo: ok i've installed wicd, should i uninstall the network management widget? [12:42] chabalz: in my experience, nm is a bit fucky [12:42] yep [12:43] language, please [12:43] it uses its own gui which doesnt look too good but it works [12:43] soz [12:43] navlelo, no need for that kind of language [12:44] i read "funky" [12:44] yeag sure [12:45] no really i didn't notice the c [12:45] isn't there a wicd interface that integrates better in kde? [12:45] not that im aware of [12:45] chabalz, what's your wifi chip and driver? [12:46] BluesKaj: how can i know? [12:46] i think the nm widget was supposed to be able to use different backends at some point, but im not sure if thats implemented [12:46] do lscpci in the terminal , look for wireless or mobile [12:46] BluesKaj: http://pastie.org/5108784 [12:48] if you run "dmesg" do you get any suspicious info from that? when the freezing occurs [12:49] chabalz, one method is to change wifi channels and increase the sensititvity/power on your router..most are set to ch6 by default , try ch9 , it's less occupied [12:50] for good reason, since 1 6 11 are good practice to use [12:51] BluesKaj: i think if i try to connect to a network that doesn't exist, plasma-desktop will also freeze so it's not a power issue (if i move completely out of reach of a wifi point that i was connected to, it will freeze) [12:51] anyway i have wicd now ^^ [12:52] hateball: what can i grep from dmesg? the freeze happened a while ago [12:53] chabalz: hard to say, it depends what the module wants to say :) [12:53] but usually it should be ovbious to tell what is related to iwlwifi [12:54] that is, if you get errors there it's like an issue with the kernel module and changing to an alternative wifi-manager probably wont do much good [12:54] but who knows [12:54] hateball: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1302421/ [12:56] chabalz: so you grepped for iwlwifi? I would look around those lines if there's any other info [12:56] hateball: yes [12:56] if there a grep with "look around"? :) [12:57] use -A or -B [12:57] grep -A 10 = includes 10 lines above the matching search [12:58] hateball: http://pastie.org/5108839 [12:58] below I mean [12:58] http://paste.ubuntu.com/1302433/ [13:00] chabalz, freezes are usually caused by inedequate graphics drivers [13:00] BluesKaj: my computer works fine, and i can switch between windows with alt-tab [13:00] but it's really the plasma-desktop program that is freezed [13:00] chabalz: are you using a 5ghz router? [13:01] (i mean i can still use the computer even when plasma-desktop is unresponsive) [13:01] hateball: i don't know [13:01] nm, I read properly now [13:01] earlier i was connected to the university wifi network [13:02] I've had some issues using N on 5ghz with my intel chipsets, where they have worked properly on 2.4ghz [13:04] bleh, it's hard to guess what could be the cause. I guess you can only hope switching to wicd works now [13:04] did this break with an upgrade? [13:10] hateball: i think i've had this problem since i've upgraded to 12.04 [13:10] maybe before of after using the kubuntu ppa backports i don't know [13:23] hmm , alt-tab doesn't change windows here , maybe due to the cube animation === shumski_away is now known as shumski [14:05] Ubuntu Open Week started now https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek Kubuntu talk in two hours [14:30] its impossible to connect to a gmail account in kde-telepathy, it asks the password but then does NOT connect, whats the problem? === Breadflour is now known as Dreadtower [14:50] ronrom: works here, are you sure you did enter your password correctly? [14:50] Mamarok: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/meta-kde-telepathy/+bug/1070873 [14:50] Launchpad bug 1070873 in meta-kde-telepathy (Ubuntu) "kde-telepathy, impossible to connect to gmail accounts" [Undecided,New] [14:52] Mamarok: in empathy it appears a XMLL windows asking ubuntu permission to connect to the gmail account, that does NOT happen when using kde-telepathy [14:53] it sure does here, using 12.10 [14:53] it asks the password when I actually make the account [14:53] Hi, I am unable to shut down my latop - it just stalls at the shutdown screen. It seems to work normal if i disable the wireless. Can anyone help? [14:53] Mamarok: read what i wrote with attention [14:54] Mamarok: i said that in kde-telepathy does NOT appears the XMLL window asking ubuntu permission to conenct to the account, it only asks the username and password, and then fails to connect [14:54] s/XMLL/XMPP [14:55] ronrom: close down kde-telepathy and start it up again, the dialogs should appear, unless you already marked the password to be saved, in that case you can edit it in kdewallet in [14:55] Mamarok: i did, makes no differnce, i have already run it debug mode and i have alredy explained why it does not fails in empathy [14:55] it will not ask you to enter the password again if you set it to be remembered [14:55] well, it does not fail here, so something is maybe different in your setup [14:56] fills like im talking to a wall [14:56] it did not fail to connect here [14:56] which is why I tell you to check if your password is correct [14:56] Mamarok: i have installed ubuntu and then isntalled kde, i have not installed from a kubuntu iso [14:56] and? [14:56] Mamarok: yes it is!!!!!! [14:56] if you have kde-telepathy that is from exactly the same repo [14:57] i dont know what happens, i just decided to tell in case could make any dfference [14:58] well, and I answered you what you should check, as kde-telepathy saves teh passwords in kwallet [14:58] the* [15:00] Mamarok: it only saves the password to kwallet only if you set a kwallet password [15:00] Mamarok: that is irrelevant to the question [15:00] you can also use a kwallet without a password [15:01] well, since you asked: its impossible to connect to a gmail account in kde-telepathy, it asks the password but then does NOT connect, whats the problem?" [15:01] Hi, I am unable to shut down my latop - it just stalls at the shutdown screen. It seems to work normal if i disable the wireless. Can anyone help? [15:01] I told you it does definitely work here, so check your password, else I don't know what is wrong with your installation [15:01] natman: which Kubuntu? [15:02] Mamarok: 12.10 [15:02] hm, that works fine here as well, do you have network shares that are active that could cause that? [15:02] i dont know whats the problem, im simply reporting this problem, in empathy it DOES connect, but the difference between creating a gmail account in empathy to kde-telepathy is that in empathy your prompted with a XMPP window that asks ubuntu permission to connect to gmail, that does not happen in kde-telepathy. [15:02] Mamarok: i get the following if i shut down using the terminal http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2ij2f79&s=6 [15:03] natman: looks like it tries to run a startup script [15:03] Mamarok: do you understand now the difference? [15:04] check the scripts that run, that shouldn't happen [15:04] Has anyone here tried out Gimp's experimental opencl support? [15:04] Mamarok: all i know is that if i disable the wireless it shuts down normally, what should i do? [15:05] natman: there is a networking script that tries to start, did you start that or did you install something special causing that? [15:05] ronrom: yes, I do, and I told you it will not show you a dialog window again if your password is marked to be saved [15:06] Mamarok: yes it will not, but i never said the problem was that [15:06] Mamarok: I installed the driver for my wireless card thats all, i have disabled the driver but it doesnt help. [15:06] Mamarok: what that has to do with kde-telepathy cant conenct to a gmail account? [15:07] ronrom: *sigh* your isntallation of kde-telepathy can't it does work here, so please check the config file in $HOME/.kde/share/config/ [15:08] Mamarok: i also cant figure whats the problem, thats why im reporting the bug [15:08] ronrom: well, check the config file, please [15:09] and this is a kubuntu onluy related problem, because for example in Mageia kde-telepathy does conect fine === yofel_ is now known as yofel [15:10] ronrom: you apparently don't read what I say either :) [15:10] Mamarok: yes i do, but will not make any dif to look into the config file, im not a ktp developer [15:11] well, a config file is a text file and one doesn't have to be a developer to read it [15:12] Mamarok: it does need to be a developer to know what you do [15:12] ronrom: you should have an entry there with your gmail address, starting with gabble/jabber/ [15:12] that should end with =true [15:12] actually 0=true [15:13] without spaces [15:13] Mamarok: to what file are you referring? [15:13] $HOME/.kde/share/config/ktelepathyrc [15:14] * Mamarok is not a developer either [15:14] but it lists all your accounts you have made in ktp [15:14] Mamarok: i do not have such fil [15:14] ups, yes i do [15:14] ronrom: do you actually use KDE? [15:15] the file only lists the groups, no accounts there [15:15] well, then apparently no accounts were saved [15:15] else those should be listed there [15:15] clsoe ktp, erase that file and start ktp again [15:16] close* [15:16] then make your account for gmail again [15:16] Mamarok: i did and the account sdo apepar again, and the file continues the same [15:17] Mamarok: so the accounts are being saved else where [15:17] well, the password is saved elsewhere, but the accounts shuld be listed there [15:17] ronrom: which Kubuntu do you use? [15:17] im using 12.10 [15:18] then it should be definitely saved in there, but maybe you are not starting the right app: how do you start ktp? [15:19] Mamarok: KTP saves accounts in Mission Control [15:19] so : mc-tool list : will show you all the configured accounts [15:19] shadeslayer: it lists the accounts in the config file as well [15:20] not sure what GroupsState represents there [15:20] Mamarok: any ideas? [15:21] not really, besides the fact that you should not have a script running on exit [15:21] although, if you're using empathy and kde telepathy together, there are bound to be some wonky problems [15:21] shadeslayer: could you check with natman? [15:21] shadeslayer: hi [15:21] ESOMUCHBACKLOG [15:21] :P [15:22] shadeslayer: i have both empathy and ktp isntalled, since i have isntalled ubuntu and then isntalled kde packages [15:22] shadeslayer: would it help if i run ktp in debug mode? [15:22] ronrom: alright, and when connecting with GTalk account does not go online? [15:22] shadeslayer: does not [15:22] ok [15:22] sec [15:22] let me pull up the debugging wiki page [15:23] ronrom: please follow http://community.kde.org/Real-Time_Communication_and_Collaboration/FAQ#Providing_debug and provide full details in #kde-telepathy [15:23] shadeslayer: can you comment https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/meta-kde-telepathy/+bug/1070873 [15:23] Launchpad bug 1070873 in meta-kde-telepathy (Ubuntu) "kde-telepathy, impossible to connect to gmail accounts" [Undecided,New] [15:24] could you describe what a XMLL window is? [15:24] a screenshot would be nice :) [15:25] ronrom: http://i.imgur.com/EaUKM.png < something like that? [15:25] shadeslayer: i have unisntalled all telepathy packages, and empathy was also unisntalled, and i isntaleld the meta package kde-telepathy that called all ktp needed packages [15:26] right [15:27] shadeslayer: that was also always appeared and after that i got a message saying the pasword was wrong, but the passwd was correct, still marking that window to remember the choice would not make any differnece since it continued appearing [15:27] kde-telepathy is real buggy [15:27] ronrom: that window is from empathy [15:27] so not an issue of KDE Telepathy [15:27] shadeslayer: it also appears in ktp when conecting to gmail account [15:28] right, please uninstall all of empathy to get rid of that window [15:28] Mamarok: shadeslayer should i restate my problem? [15:28] natman: laptop does not shutdown? [15:28] shadeslayer: yes [15:28] i did, now i runned ktp and it did not show any acocunt, so the accounts i had are gone [15:29] shadeslayer: now it conencted fine [15:29] natman: and it just shows this : http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2ij2f79&s=6 ? [15:29] ronrom: \o/ [15:29] shadeslayer: so who comes from ubuntu and install kde packages will have problems conecting using ktp, thats needs to be fixed [15:29] shadeslayer: yes, and if i disable wirless shutdown works normally ( tested 3 times ) [15:29] ronrom: how do you propose we fix it? [15:29] shadeslayer: i dont know whats causing that problem [15:30] shadeslayer: im simply saying that problem exists [15:30] Hm, is there a way to check the status of a dist-upgrade started over SSH if the connection unexpectedly quit? [15:30] ronrom: co installation of empathy and ktp will cause *some* issues [15:30] doing ps aux | grep dpkg shows that the process is still running. [15:30] However, it was nearing the end of it's upgrade path. [15:30] GH0: you could kill it and then make it continue what it was doing [15:31] or if you were using ssh and the ssh connection broke, there's a alternate ssh port that is usually open during upgrade operations [15:31] shadeslayer: another thing, i cant have the video/audio icons enabled in ktp, whats failing? [15:31] ronrom: that's because we don't ship ktp-call-ui by default [15:31] oh wait [15:31] ronrom: did you install kde-telepathy-minimal or kde-telepathy? [15:31] shadeslayer, I know, but I didn't want to kill it upgrading a specific process, or removing the lock file that was in place. [15:32] Just thought it would be a bad idea, but it seems to have completed (or at least the entry has disappeared) [15:32] natman: can you check if sudo poweroff works for you? [15:32] shadeslayer: call-ui is installed [15:32] GH0: you could run : sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock : and check if it completed [15:33] ( answer N when it asks you to kill the process of course ) [15:33] shadeslayer: i have tried sudo shutdown -h now, is that what you mean? [15:33] ronrom: most likely the other end does not support video calling then [15:33] shadeslayer: yes it does [15:33] ronrom: this is on GTalk? [15:34] yes [15:34] natman: nah, poweroff also powersdown the machine, I've experienced issues with halt -h NOW where the machine would still keep running [15:35] ronrom: and do you know what client the other user is using? [15:35] shadeslayer: is using gmail from firefox [15:35] we have talked today in windows [15:36] shadeslayer: using the video, so some is failing to work in linux [15:36] can you test if calling from their machine to your machine works? [15:36] shadeslayer: no i cant, the other end is not conencted anymore [15:36] uhhh [15:36] but i can test, give me a minute [15:37] how do you expect to call the remote contact when the remote contact is offline [15:37] shadeslayer: im gg to conect another machine in another gmail account [15:37] ok [15:37] because I can successfully call between Jabber and GTalk [15:37] shadeslayer: i also used too [15:37] shadeslayer: but now some is failing [15:38] well ... telepathy tells the UI that these people in the roster have call capabilities, while others do not [15:38] and ktp just displays that info [15:39] shadeslayer: nah gave the exact same issue [15:39] windows takes a lot of time to boot, what a crap [15:40] natman: erk ... I'm not really sure what the issue is then tbh [15:40]