[06:58] <twb> lilstevie: I heard a rumour that tf101 works perfectly now and I should man up and reflash it.  Is that true?
[13:27] <angs> I installed ubuntu-server to a beagleboard-xm. When I am connected to the board via the serial port at the first time (kernel building). The screen layout is too messed up http://i46.tinypic.com/34fog0p.png I use "screen /dev/ttyUSB0 115200 8N1" and minicom to connect the board but each time I get that messy screen. Can anyone tell me how I can fix it?
[13:29] <suihkulokki> angs: are you sure your serial cable is ok?
[13:29] <ppisati> angs: are weird
[13:29] <ppisati> angs: two things:
[13:29] <ppisati> angs: are you sure hw is ok?
[13:30] <ppisati> angs: second: try with cu - cu -s 115200 -l /dev/ttyUSB0
[13:30] <ppisati> angs: usually that kind of garbage means wrong settings, or bad hw
[13:30] <ppisati> angs: ah, and check the serial cable too
[13:34] <angs> suihkulokki, ppisati: yes cable is broken. although it was a new cable that I bought recently. Thank you for your help
[13:40] <LetoThe2nd> attention, complaint: i installed yesterday netinstaller filed under 13.04 on my panda but it still call itself 12.04! that makes me feel way less 1337!!!1!one!!!eleven
[13:40] <LetoThe2nd> *SCNR*
[13:41] <LetoThe2nd> (12.10, sry:P )
[13:41] <RoyK> file a bug ;)
[13:44] <infinity> LetoThe2nd: Calls itself 12.04 where?
[13:44] <LetoThe2nd> infinity: sry, 12.10 ;) in the issue and usb-release...? at least thats what methinks.
[13:44] <LetoThe2nd> (just remembered it for the sake of trolling ;))
[13:45] <infinity> LetoThe2nd: Oh, you mean 13.04 is calling itself 12.10?  dist-upgrade.
[13:45] <LetoThe2nd> infinity: yeah exactly. 13.04 is calling itself 12.10.
[13:45] <infinity> LetoThe2nd: I updated base-files almost two days ago, it should be fine.
[13:45] <infinity> (base)adconrad@cthulhu:~/build/debian-installer$ lsb_release -a
[13:45] <infinity> No LSB modules are available.
[13:45] <infinity> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[13:45] <infinity> Description:	Ubuntu Raring Ringtail (development branch)
[13:45] <infinity> Release:	13.04
[13:46] <infinity> Codename:	raring
[13:46] <LetoThe2nd> infinity: i see. will try then probably tonight when i'm at home :P
[13:46] <infinity> LetoThe2nd: d-i itself may be wrong in some bits until we rebuild it, but the installed system should be right.
[13:46] <infinity> Oh, wait.
[13:46] <infinity> Hahaha.
[13:47] <infinity> No, if you installed with d-i, you installed 12.10. :P
[13:47] <LetoThe2nd> it also seems to point to qq sources...
[13:47] <infinity> Since that's just a copy of the d-i from 12.10
[13:47] <infinity> Yeah, exactly.
[13:47] <LetoThe2nd> infinity: i did. netinstall, d-i
[13:47] <infinity> We just haven't rebuilt the installer yet, that's all.
[13:47] <infinity> s/quantal/raring/ in sources.list and dist-upgrade, and you're there.
[13:47] <LetoThe2nd> *trolltrolltroll* too slow you are!
[13:47] <LetoThe2nd> makes me feel way less version 1337
[13:48] <LetoThe2nd> *SCNR*
[13:48] <LetoThe2nd> will give it a try then :)
[14:24] <puneri> QUESTION : I asked question at UbuntuOpenWeek for contributing to Ubuntu For ARM. They advised me to get feedback here. May I know how to get started
[14:25] <suihkulokki> puneri: best place to start is probably looking at arm team bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-arm
[14:26] <puneri> suihkulokki : Thanks. Prowess needed to resolve bugs ?
[14:27] <puneri> QUESTION : I have STM32F4DISCOVERY with me, possible to port Ubuntu For ARM ?
[14:29] <LetoThe2nd> puneri: not for beginners, and even hard for experts.
[14:30] <LetoThe2nd> plus one would probably need one or two thousand years for the recompile on an v7m ;)
[14:45] <puneri> QUESTION : What are armel and armhf ? Are these something specific for ubuntu arm ?
[14:46] <lilstevie> they are abis
[14:47] <ogra_> armel = arm eabi little endian ...
[14:47] <ogra_> armhf = arm eabi with hardfloat support
[14:47] <puneri> ok. thanks.
[14:48] <lilstevie> armel = arm eabi little endian, and uses a softfp
[14:48] <lilstevie> ogra_ got it
[14:48] <lilstevie> damn my slow typing :p
[14:48] <ogra_> haha
[14:48] <ogra_> and i'm even in a neeting
[14:48] <ogra_> *meeting
[14:49] <lilstevie> I had to turn a tap off in the kitchen half way through though so I didn't flood my water filter
[14:49] <lilstevie> but eh, still could have typed faster
[14:49] <lilstevie> :p
[14:53] <lilstevie> hm, I have to say, I do not like one of the new features in 12.10 (this isn't arm though really, noticed it on my desktop) is showing the battery levels of my bluetooth devices (keyboard and mouse) as if they were device batteries
[14:59] <GrueMaster> lilstevie: Actually, that is quite handy (but would be nice if it could be disabled).
[15:01] <ogra_> lilstevie, it always monitored these values
[15:01] <ogra_> since the very first release of gnome-power-manager
[15:01] <ogra_> they probably changed the display ppolicies upstream
[15:08] <lilstevie> GrueMaster, it is how it displays it that is the problem
[15:08] <lilstevie> as a laptop battery
[15:10] <GrueMaster> Ah.
[15:15] <puneri> QUESTION : Sorry, However on Ubuntu ARM Bugs section I'm not able to understand anything. Help please to get started ?
[15:53] <infinity> lilstevie: Bugs are filed already about the presentation being misleading/confusing.
[15:53] <infinity> lilstevie: (But the feature is cool, once they sort out not making it look silly)
[15:55] <lilstevie> infinity, :) I do agree the feature is cool, it is just how it is presented, actually something I would say <=12.04 was missing was an easy way to see levels, but last thing I want is gpower sending my computer to sleep for a flat mouse battery :p
[15:57] <infinity> lilstevie: It shouldn't sleep if the mouse battery dies, it's just that the display prioritises showing you whichever battery is lower which, when your laptop is charged, will pretty much always be the mouse/keyboard/whatever.
[15:57] <infinity> lilstevie: If you start running your laptop flat, the laptop battery should suddenly become the one displayed.
[15:58] <infinity> lilstevie: (But yes, both wildly unintuitive and confusing)
[15:58] <infinity> lilstevie: There are probably other bugs filed, but you might want to add your 2 bits to bug 1066208
[15:58] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1066208 in gnome-power-manager (Ubuntu) "Battery indicator shows mouse battery instead of notebook battery" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1066208
[15:59] <infinity> lilstevie: Assuming you have some bikeshed ideas about how to do it more sanely.
[15:59] <infinity> (I'd probably personally just refrain from swapping the indicator to a peripheral battery until the peripheral was at 5% or something)
[16:00] <infinity> But even that would need some obvious indicator that it wasn't your laptop battery dying.
[22:41] <infinity> janimo: Looks like you accidentally repurposed bug 1068733 for 3.2.0 (it was meant to be for 3.5.0), you might want to take the actual 3.2.0 bug 1068573 and use it for 3.5.0, I guess. :P
[22:41] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1068733 in linux-armadaxp (Ubuntu) "linux-armadaxp: 3.2.0-1610.15 -proposed tracker" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1068733
[22:41] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1068573 in linux-armadaxp (Ubuntu) "linux-armadaxp: <version to be filled> -proposed tracker" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1068573
[23:12] <wookey> someone tell where to find the python module 'util'. (yes, I feel stupid asking this question)
[23:19] <wookey> OK, been told.