| darkxst | jbicha, can you upload bug 1064354 for me? | 00:17 |
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| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1064354 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "When running lightDM user locking doesnt work" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1064354 | 00:17 |
| jbicha | darkxst: done, thanks | 00:31 |
| darkxst | jbicha, thanks | 00:35 |
| darkxst | jbicha, seems the apport script is not picking up 'enabled-extensions' key | 01:29 |
| jbicha | darkxst: ok, my theory is that apport has trouble with schemas that have subfolders, it failed with org.gnome.anjuta too | 02:54 |
| darkxst | hmm, no we are calling attach_gsettings_schema(report, 'org.gnome.desktop.interface') | 02:56 |
| darkxst | extension ket is in org.gnome.shell | 02:57 |
| jbicha | it also doesn't like org.gnome.settings-daemon but that's a pretty big tree | 02:57 |
| jbicha | I've just been editing /usr/share/apport/package-hooks/source_gnome-shell.py directly and then running ubuntu-bug gnome-shell to see if it catches changed schemas | 02:58 |
| darkxst | anyway having the dm session logs is gold! | 02:59 |
| jbicha | if you know python, you can poke around lp:apport if that helps | 02:59 |
| darkxst | yeh will have a look tonight | 03:00 |
| darkxst | it does seem to be rather broken | 03:14 |
| darkxst | not sure this does anything either? "attach_gsettings_package(report, 'gnome-shell-common')" | 03:15 |
| jbicha | darkxst: I think that works, but looking at the apport code, we might as well just tell it what schema we actually want | 03:16 |
| jbicha | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~apport-hackers/apport/trunk/view/head:/apport/hookutils.py#L571 | 03:16 |
| jbicha | so, org.gnome.shell | 03:17 |
| darkxst | lol, really why arent they using gi? | 03:18 |
| darkxst | anyway, line 598 looks broken | 03:21 |
| darkxst | but that doesnt explain why we can't get the keys in the specified schema | 03:22 |
| darkxst | i.e. org.gnome.shell returns nothing | 03:22 |
| jbicha | if it hits an exception, it wouldn't give us any output, right? | 03:23 |
| jbicha | or if line 598 is broken, I think we wouldn't get output either | 03:24 |
| darkxst | line 598 is broken in that it wont check sub-folders | 03:24 |
| jbicha | I wonder if using dconf dump would be a better idea than gsettings list-recursively | 03:26 |
| jbicha | oh good, my theory was right :) | 03:26 |
| jbicha | trial and error works eventually | 03:26 |
| darkxst | well you should be able to access the schemas directly with gobject introspection | 03:28 |
| darkxst | so not sure why they are spawning command line utils | 03:28 |
| trism | it is actually not straightforward to get defaults (that I have found), that's why they use the XDG_CONFIG_HOME hack | 03:30 |
| trism | if you find any easy way though I'd love to know though (after digging through the gsettings code a bit it didn't seem like you could get at it without first reseting the key, which can cause issues) | 03:33 |
| darkxst | it must be available | 03:35 |
| darkxst | but I can't really look now | 03:35 |
| trism | not through the API anyway | 03:37 |
| * everaldo just see now that our build script is much better/easy than live-build | 03:55 | |
| jbicha | everaldo: :) | 03:58 |
| jbicha | it could be that we don't know what we're doing, but our way is a bit more documented | 04:00 |
| darkxst | jbicha, you have seen cjwatson's build scripts right? | 04:17 |
| everaldo | darkxst, the cjwatson's instructions just create squashfs, this is the easy part | 04:18 |
| darkxst | no his other scripts that build the isos | 04:19 |
| everaldo | oh | 04:19 |
| darkxst | lots and lots of bash code | 04:19 |
| everaldo | darkxst, where? | 04:19 |
| jbicha | uh, this one? https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cdimage/debian-cd/ubuntu | 04:19 |
| darkxst | on his launchpad page maybe | 04:19 |
| darkxst | no not that | 04:21 |
| jbicha | http://people.canonical.com/~cjwatson/bzr/cdimage/mainline/ | 04:21 |
| darkxst | http://people.canonical.com/~cjwatson/bzr/cdimage/mainline/ | 04:21 |
| darkxst | ah jbicha beat me! | 04:21 |
| jbicha | yeah, part of the fun was trying to figure out where all the branches hide | 04:22 |
| everaldo | oh, it is not possible that this stuff is used to build iso | 04:23 |
| jbicha | I believe a few pieces are restricted to the Canonical release team members as they include the publishing credentials | 04:23 |
| everaldo | we have just two scripts and they are very easy to understand | 04:23 |
| jbicha | everaldo: we skip the hard steps | 04:24 |
| jbicha | that part where we just use an already existing Ubuntu iso | 04:24 |
| everaldo | yes, but I will check my old scripts that create all from scratch | 04:25 |
| everaldo | jbicha, do we need to use live-build to be oficial? | 04:25 |
| jbicha | everaldo: nope, this is what Lubuntu used https://code.launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop/+junk/lubuntu-tools | 04:26 |
| jbicha | cjwatson doesn't really expect any one else to duplicate exactly what they do | 04:26 |
| everaldo | we can use this lubuntu script as base | 04:27 |
| everaldo | will work on that, the live-build stuff is just too much | 04:28 |
| darkxst | everaldo, lubuntu script looks quite similar to what we have already | 04:29 |
| everaldo | yes, I see | 04:29 |
| jbicha | and there's no need, our script does most of what we need | 04:29 |
| darkxst | which for now, works fine | 04:29 |
| everaldo | we just need to have a skel folder with contents of cd/dvd/iso | 04:29 |
| darkxst | and saves a lot of effort! | 04:29 |
| darkxst | we do? extract-cd | 04:29 |
| darkxst | except its stolen from the ubuntu iso :) | 04:30 |
| jbicha | we could use an extra publish function, to make the md5sums, .torrent's and .manifest's | 04:30 |
| darkxst | jbicha, that would be easy | 04:31 |
| jbicha | and stealing from the latest iso is good as it ensures that we get the latest .debs and wubi | 04:31 |
| darkxst | yeh all good, until they sneak in last minute changes to secure boot which burnt us! | 04:32 |
| darkxst | but in general stealing from ubuntu is good. After all we are not that much different (compared to the other derivatives) | 04:38 |
| darkxst | or perhaps, borrowing is a nicer word! | 04:38 |
| everaldo | :) | 04:38 |
| darkxst | jbicha, when do the R archives open? after UDS? | 04:40 |
| everaldo | hehe, we will have a stable distro for just two weeks and start again with a devel distro | 04:42 |
| darkxst | everaldo, stable is too boring ;) | 04:42 |
| jbicha | darkxst: I don't rememember the archives ever taking this long to open; however cjwatson is setting up some magic where all uploads will go to -proposed first and then automatically migrate to the regular archives once they've built on all architectures | 04:47 |
| jbicha | I expect the archives to open before uds though | 04:48 |
| jbicha | pitti traditionally upgrades his laptop to the development release on the last day of UDS (there's a local archive mirror there so it's faster than doing it at home) | 04:48 |
| everaldo | jbicha, where we will discuss changes for 13.04 ? Wiki? Etherpad? | 04:50 |
| jbicha | probably the mailing list or blueprints.launchpad.net, but you can try something else if you like | 04:53 |
| * everaldo reading about blueprints | 04:55 | |
| darkxst | lol, ok, my free mirror is really slow | 04:57 |
| darkxst | but actually have some really fast mirrors here | 04:57 |
| darkxst | like ~100mbps | 04:58 |
| everaldo | well, my internet is just 10mbps... so, it is ok for me :) | 04:58 |
| darkxst | lol, I am capped at 120mbps | 04:59 |
| darkxst | ~14MB/s | 04:59 |
| everaldo | and I could say that I have a "very fast internet", most people here have only 1~3 mbps | 04:59 |
| everaldo | darkxst, how much you pay in US$ ? | 05:00 |
| darkxst | 80AU$ | 05:01 |
| darkxst | and that includes a phone line I dont use | 05:03 |
| everaldo | here it is $80 (US) | 05:03 |
| everaldo | but 10mbps | 05:04 |
| darkxst | oh an I though ours was expensive | 05:12 |
| darkxst | 200GB quota though | 05:12 |
| darkxst | everaldo, so back on topic, setup a blueprint | 05:30 |
| darkxst | I have a few ideas that problably should be documented | 05:30 |
| everaldo | darkxst, I am reading other blueprints | 05:31 |
| darkxst | hmm what for? just make one for us! | 05:31 |
| everaldo | just to understand how it works | 05:31 |
| everaldo | right now, I am on the tour | 05:31 |
| darkxst | hmm its just like a wiki page but for planning? | 05:32 |
| everaldo | don't know, never used it before, that is why I am reading the tour | 05:32 |
| everaldo | "The project for which this proposal is being made." is mandatory | 05:35 |
| everaldo | no idea about what project we can use for | 05:35 |
| jbicha | use Ubuntu as the project | 05:36 |
| darkxst | you can tag it onto the udr-iso-build project I suppose | 05:37 |
| darkxst | ugr-iso-build | 05:37 |
| darkxst | that I made yesterday | 05:37 |
| darkxst | everaldo, https://launchpad.net/ugr-iso-build | 05:37 |
| jbicha | and you can use desktop-q-gnomebuntu (or whatever) or other-q- as the prefix | 05:38 |
| jbicha | oops desktop-r- or other-r- | 05:38 |
| darkxst | jbicha, you pulling an all nighter? | 05:40 |
| jbicha | nah, have a good night! | 05:41 |
| darkxst | well its still day here, so I am fine! | 05:41 |
| everaldo | r is for Raring or Ringtail? | 05:44 |
| everaldo | normally the short name is the first word | 05:45 |
| everaldo | but, raring don't looks to be a name | 05:45 |
| darkxst | r is for both | 05:46 |
| darkxst | that is how they name them | 05:46 |
| darkxst | first word is an adjective | 05:47 |
| darkxst | second word is an animal | 05:47 |
| everaldo | yes, but the short name will be ringtail right? | 05:47 |
| darkxst | no raring | 05:47 |
| darkxst | just like precise and quantal | 05:48 |
| everaldo | darkxst, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ugr-iso-build/+spec/topic-r-flavor-gnomebuntu | 05:49 |
| everaldo | back | 05:55 |
| everaldo | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ugr-iso-build/+spec/topic-r-flavor-gnomebuntu | 05:55 |
| darkxst | everaldo, your blueprint is empty!? | 08:35 |
| darvin33 | hello where can i donwload ubuntu gnome remix 12.10? | 14:40 |
| smartboyhw | darvin33, look at the topic | 14:40 |
| smartboyhw | https:/wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/ReleaseNotes/12.10 | 14:41 |
| darvin33 | thank you | 14:41 |
| everaldo | jbicha, is it possible to create a project for gnomebuntu on launchpad or we can still use ugr-iso-build? | 17:11 |
| jbicha | anyone can make a lp project | 17:17 |
| everaldo | jbicha, but is a good pratice? | 17:18 |
| everaldo | create one project for a flavor? | 17:18 |
| jbicha | but...kubuntu and xubuntu don't have one and I'm not sure we need one | 17:18 |
| jbicha | we don't need one to use Ubuntu blueprints | 17:19 |
| everaldo | well, or blueprints are going to ugr-iso-build | 17:19 |
| jbicha | no, just use Ubuntu please | 17:19 |
| jbicha | http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-r/tracks | 17:19 |
| everaldo | ok, moving | 17:19 |
| everaldo | done | 17:20 |
| jbicha | skaet dis-recommended desktop so use other-r or community-r as the prefix | 17:20 |
| jbicha | something like community-r-ubuntugnome-default-apps | 17:21 |
| everaldo | lubuntu uses topic-raring-flavor-lubuntu | 17:22 |
| everaldo | and the same for kubuntu and xubuntu | 17:22 |
| everaldo | jbicha, all others are using topic-r-flavor-(falvor) | 17:23 |
| jbicha | the first word should be the UDS track (even though we're likely not going to have a UDS session this time) | 17:24 |
| everaldo | so, we can have another blueprint link to this one | 17:25 |
| everaldo | like other flavors do | 17:25 |
| jbicha | oh ok I guess we can have a master blueprint | 17:28 |
| jbicha | I never really used that feature before | 17:28 |
| everaldo | yes, this one is the master | 17:28 |
| everaldo | looks like my research of blueprint yesterday was a good idea ;-) | 17:28 |
| everaldo | btw, launchpad is like a new world, I just learn tons of things last month | 17:29 |
| everaldo | and still don't know anything | 17:29 |
| everaldo | jbicha, what "propose for sprint" mean on blueprints? | 18:05 |
| jbicha | you can propose the blueprint as a session topic at UDS | 18:20 |
| everaldo | are we going to propose something? | 18:23 |
| jbicha | probably not, it's best to have someone present to lead the session and I don't know who that would be | 18:27 |
| jbicha | we could do a Google+ hangout/IRC meeting instead | 18:27 |
| everaldo | yes, a hangout could be nice | 18:28 |
| JDBuntu | is this channel for the remix only, or if we are running gnome-shell on standard ubuntu is it OK to ask questions about that here as well? | 20:22 |
| Queops | Well I just came here but I believe even the official #gnome channel would be better if it's gnome related | 20:24 |
| Queops | :) | 20:24 |
| TheLordOfTime | if its ubuntu related, #ubuntu, for the remix, you could talk here though | 20:24 |
| JDBuntu | thanks | 20:28 |
| Queops | sorry i meant even the unofficial* | 20:28 |
| Queops | lol | 20:29 |
| darkxst | JDBuntu, if its related to gnome-shell, fine to ask here | 20:34 |
| JDBuntu | OK thanks | 20:36 |
| JDBuntu | running ubuntu 12.10 with gnome-shell (as opposed to unity) with GDM as the display manager. When I login, it shows the default wallpaper for a few seconds before it picks up the user specified wallpaper - is there any way to change that default wallpaper? | 20:36 |
| JDBuntu | I know not a mission critical type question. | 20:36 |
| JDBuntu | I also run wally to rotate wallpapers, and it shows that same default wallpaper for a brief instance when changing. I would prefer to just have a black screen or some other wallaper. | 20:37 |
| JDBuntu | crap, I'm getting called away from my desk - so if anyone asks any follow up questions, I may not be able to answer right away. and thank you in advance! | 20:39 |
| darkxst | JDBuntu, you need to change the system default wallpaper | 20:42 |
| JDBuntu | how is that performed? | 20:43 |
| darkxst | /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/10_ubuntu-settings.gschema.override | 20:44 |
| JDBuntu | excellent | 20:44 |
| JDBuntu | I'll check it out | 20:44 |
| JDBuntu | thank you | 20:44 |
| jbicha | well, not that file exactly | 20:45 |
| JDBuntu | oh | 20:45 |
| JDBuntu | this section: | 20:45 |
| JDBuntu | [org.gnome.desktop.background] | 20:45 |
| JDBuntu | show-desktop-icons=true | 20:45 |
| JDBuntu | picture-uri='file:///usr/share/backgrounds/warty-final-ubuntu.png' | 20:45 |
| JDBuntu | ? | 20:45 |
| jbicha | yeah, copy the header and the picture-uri to a different file (with a higher number) in that directory | 20:46 |
| jbicha | otherwise, you'll lose your changes when you get an update to the package that provides that files | 20:46 |
| jbicha | and then you'll need to run sudo glib-compile-schemas /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/ | 20:47 |
| JDBuntu | I am not quite clear on what you are suggesting regarding the higher number | 20:47 |
| JDBuntu | ? | 20:47 |
| Queops | the file you create starts with a number | 20:48 |
| Queops | Even though darkxst suggested 10 i bet it can be higher if needed | 20:49 |
| jbicha | debian and ubuntu stuff use 10_ some flavor stuff uses 20_ , whatever has the higher number wins if two files change the same setting | 20:50 |
| darkxst | i.e. 30_JDBuntu-settings.gschema.override | 20:52 |
| JDBuntu | gotcha | 20:52 |
| Queops | hehe | 20:53 |
| JDBuntu | I'm going to logout now and test. thank you! | 20:55 |
| darkxst | jbicha, I wonder are there really that many people with efi systems, or is everyone just downloading because it was a newer version! | 20:56 |
| Queops | I'm really impressed with this release | 20:58 |
| JDBuntu | worked like a charm! thank you! | 20:59 |
| darkxst | everaldo, another blueprint for you to link against packageselection, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/gnomebuntu-package-management | 22:33 |
| everaldo | darkxst, done | 22:35 |
| everaldo | darkxst, you can't do it with your user? | 22:36 |
| everaldo | (just curious about access control) | 22:36 |
| darkxst | everaldo, nope I don't get access to the dependencies option | 22:39 |
| darkxst | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/gnomebuntu-display-manager | 22:40 |
| everaldo | darkxst, do you know how I can give you and jbicha access? | 22:40 |
| everaldo | done, linked | 22:43 |
| darkxst | everaldo, I don't know | 22:43 |
| darkxst | unless its set by one of the approver/drafter etc fields | 22:44 |
| everaldo | you are now in "Assignee" | 22:47 |
| everaldo | nice, we have now Raring on PPA Series | 22:49 |
| everaldo | and also on our archives | 22:50 |
| darkxst | archive were copied shortly after Q release | 22:51 |
| darkxst | however they are still closed (so just a copy of Q packages) | 22:51 |
| darkxst | everaldo, yeh, I see the dependency buttons now | 22:53 |
| everaldo | cool | 22:54 |
| everaldo | unfortunatelly we have slot only for 3 people | 22:54 |
| darkxst | we could probably use a team? | 22:57 |
| everaldo | maybe | 22:58 |
| everaldo | yes, we can | 22:58 |
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