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RAOFGah! The Unity SRU appears to _pointlessly_ replace a large batch of boost::* with std::*02:18
RAOFMmm. if (progress == 1.0f). What could possibly go wrong!02:19
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stgraberhmm, why am I getting "Raring-changes subscription notification" e-mails? Looking at mailman skaet is supposed to be the list owner so I'm not sure how I ended up on raring-changes-owner07:38
cjwatsondoko: Please don't manually copy from raring-proposed to raring, no.  (I'll run britney once I'm properly awake and at a real computer.)08:17
cjwatsonIt'll be cronned once I trust it.08:17
dokoI didn't, therefore my question08:18
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psivaacjwatson: We are hitting bug 1068178 every now and then on our daily precise encrypted-home preseeded installation tests. Would be helpful if you could have a look10:48
ubot2Launchpad bug 1068178 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "ubuntu ubiquity: cannot stat `/target/etc/fstab' error on preseeded - encrypted-home installations on precise" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/106817810:48
cjwatsonpsivaa: Needs to be somebody else this week10:50
cjwatsonxnox: ^- can you look at that?10:50
* xnox looking10:50
psivaacjwatson: xnox: ok thank you10:51
cjwatsonthough rings a faint bell - xnox, you might find that was fixed somewhere post-precise10:52
xnoxcjwatson: thanks.10:52
dokoxnox, do you have a list of outstanding "python (<< 3.3)" packages?11:13
xnoxdoko: yeah. but all of them either "pretend" to build for all, yet really want to build against default only or FTBFS11:14
xnox(as in with py2.7 & 3.2 & 3.3 and known)11:14
xnoxI have one more to upload and then I'll start rebuilding with with 3.3 set to default in a ppa.11:15
xnoxdoko: let me push you the list.11:15
dokoxnox, could you file bug reports with the python3.3 keyword in debian for the pretending ones?11:17
xnoxdoko: ack.11:18
xnoxdoko: http://people.canonical.com/~xnox/py3.2/python3.2.html11:18
xnoxfilter on bad only.11:18
xnoxI can upload pyopencl. shiboken ftbfs with reverse-dep pyside.11:19
stgrabercan someone kick the older lxc from precise-proposed? it contains missing "fi" statements for the devtmpfs handling causing a parse error13:04
stgraberhallyn uploaded a fixed version (that new queuebot listed a couple of minutes ago)13:04
cjwatsonstgraber: done13:12
stgrabercjwatson: thanks13:12
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skaetstgraber,   Sorry about the communication glitch.  I went in and added you, infinity, cjwatson to the moderator set for the raring-changes list yesterday.13:59
cjwatsonFWIW the list of moderators in the mailman admin UI is basically just informational14:00
cjwatsonThe true set of moderators is just people who have the moderator password14:00
infinityWell, the list of mods or admins are the people who get nag mails.14:01
infinityBut yes, the two passwords are the bit that matters.14:01
Laneynot that -changes should require any moderation14:02
cjwatsonNo, well, in this case it did until today14:02
cjwatsonBut that's fixed now14:02
Laneyit /did/ but it /should not/ have :-)14:03
infinityLaney: Absolutely, it shouldn't have.  But it did, regardless.14:04
stgraberyay, IPv6 is back online, restarting queuebot :)14:09
evwould someone kindly let whoopsie 0.2.6 and apport 2.6.1-0ubuntu6 through?14:15
smartboyhwskaet, just a reconfirm: When is the blueprint deadline for R cycle?14:43
skaetsmartboyhw,  blueprints should be registered and accepted prior to the start of UDS if they need to be discussed there.   Otherwise, blueprints are accepted until planning freeze.14:44
skaetoops... s/planning freeze/feature definition freeze/14:45
smartboyhwthx skaet14:45
skaetyw14:46
knomeskaet, btw, where can i see a list of the track leads?14:47
knomeskaet, and is desktop now the track where flavors should go? (i saw some lubuntu sessions on community)14:47
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skaetknome,  http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-r/tracks <-- has the track leads14:49
knomeskaet, sweet. i don't recall seeing that page before14:49
skaetand I recommend using the "community" track for the flavor work in general,  although depending on the topic, other tracks may be applicable in order to make sure the right audience knows to attend.14:50
knomeskaet, ok, thanks :)14:52
skaet:)14:52
knomebbl14:53
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gemaxnox: ping15:20
xnoxgema: yes?!15:20
gemaxnox: the btrfs bp, I think you should own it15:21
gema:D15:21
xnoxgema: ack.15:21
gemaxnox: I created it because bjf suggested we need to do something about that15:21
gemaand we do15:21
xnoxgema: not sure how much time I will have for it. But sure =)15:21
gemabut I think QA should be a participant, not the driver15:21
* xnox nods15:21
gemaxnox: if not you, someone in your team15:21
gemaI don't mean to burden you with it x)15:21
gemaxnox: we'll run the tests, sure, but we'll need advice and help on how to set up , etc15:22
gemathat only you guys can provide15:22
gemaxnox: so who is your approver?15:22
xnoxgema: slangasek will need to double check for it =)15:23
gemaok, let me know15:23
gemaI won't change it until you let me know15:23
slangasekgema: what blueprint is this?15:23
slangasek(full title?)15:23
gemaslangasek: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/qa-r-btrfs-automated-testing15:23
gemaslangasek: Adding automated test cases for btrfs15:24
slangasekbtrfs is not a priority for us in 13.0415:24
slangasekso if that's really only about the btrfs filesystem... not gonna happen15:24
gemaslangasek: ack, then I will have that BP removed and we will touch on the subject in one of our ones for adding coverage15:25
xnoxack.15:25
gemaslangasek: because we likely won't have the time either, but I don't want to forget about it15:25
xnoxgema: decline from uds-r, but keep it for reference and keep it as new/unapproved or something like that.15:25
gemaxnox: ok, let me see if I can do that15:25
xnoxgema: yeah =) keep as reference if someone else wants to do it =)15:25
slangasekdeclined for uds-r15:26
gemaok, thanks slangasek and xnox !15:26
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ScottKdoko, cjwatson, etc: I need that sip4 upload to build before I can upload python-qt4 (and I think I have that about fixed).15:28
ScottK(please accept)15:28
dokoScottK, done15:29
ScottKThanks.15:29
knomeis there a specified uds twitter hashtag?15:57
cjwatsonhttps://uds.ubuntu.com/community/remote-participation/ just says #ubuntu15:59
cjwatson(not really an #ubuntu-release thing though ...)16:00
knomehmph. i was thinking whether one should use #uds or #uds-r16:00
knomebut maybe #uds... #ubuntu seems a bit too generic, don't you think?16:01
cjwatsonNot the kind of thing I care much about, and not a release management thing, as I said :-)16:03
knomehehe, sure16:03
knomejust asking around O:)16:03
knomecheers16:03
stgrabercan someone please reject the lxc in precise-proposed? we just noticed that the devtmpfs magic is a very bad idea. hallyn will be pushing an SRU to quantal to revert it there too16:04
infinitystgraber: Sure.16:05
infinitystgraber: How very bad an idea was it?16:07
stgraberwell, devtmpfs doesn't have "instances", so let's say it'd be very bad for someone to rm /dev/* in a container...16:08
stgraber(crashing the whole host and all other containers, working around all of the apparmor magic, kind of bad)16:08
infinitystgraber: Oh, indeed.16:08
infinitystgraber: A static dev should always be fine anyway, given that you know in advance what nodes you'll need, surely?16:09
stgraberyeah, that's what we had but for some reason that was breaking grub upgrades in containers (yeah, some people are weird and have grub installed in a container even though it'll never actually be able to run...)16:09
infinitystgraber: Maybe grub just needs some container-guessing voodoo.16:10
stgraberso for now we're going with broken grub upgrades but safe /dev and will figure out another way to fix the grub upgrade16:10
stgraberyeah, I think some of the scripts already use running-in-container to check for that case, I guess we'll need some more of that16:11
cjwatsonhallyn and I went over that and I'd been hoping to avoid it :-(16:11
cjwatsonBah, world sucks16:11
stgraberyeah... once we have the device namespace in the kernel we won't need those hacks, but getting that stuff implemented and accepted upstream takes a lot of time... :(16:12
bdmurrayinfinity: v-done for bug 106644516:28
ubot2Launchpad bug 1066445 in apt (Debian) "apt-get crashed with SIGSEGV in pkgCacheGenerator::ListParser::NewProvides()" [Unknown,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/106644516:28
infinitybdmurray: Is that some sort of subtle hint? ;)16:28
bdmurrayinfinity: if my verification makes sense yes it is!16:28
infinitybdmurray: Yeah, good enough for me.  Released.16:31
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stgraberwould appreciate if lxc could be reviewed quickly in quantal-proposed considering the impact. Clean diff can be found at http://paste.ubuntu.com/1303355/19:14
stgraber(impact is that any container created with current lxc in quantal will be able to wipe the host's /dev)19:14
stgraber(oh, and that any lucid container created with it won't boot)19:14
stgraberthe lxc in the queue is a revert of the change causing that (removing the patch from debian/patches) and another trivial bugfix19:15
stgraberlooks like the bug paperwork hasn't been done... /me gets that fixed19:15
* skaet looks at schedule for reviews, and sees if SpamapS is around?19:32
infinitystgraber: I'll give it a poke.19:40
infinitystgraber: Both sensible fixes, accepting.19:42
stgraberinfinity: thanks19:42
skaetthanks infinty19:42
infinitystgraber: (The tar fix is almost as awful, TBH)19:42
infinitystgraber: You might want to talk to the security team about a USN and letting me copy this to -security when you're done validating.19:42
bdmurrayIt'd be good if the ubuntu-release-upgrader in quantal-proposed could move to -updates early21:10
infinitybdmurray: Yeah, that was on my radar.  Thanks for verifying it.21:21

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