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uvirtbot | New bug: #1070617 in postfix (main) "package postfix 2.9.3-2ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: sub-processo script post-installation instalado retornou estado de saída de erro 75" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1070617 | 00:40 |
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NCommander | When using MAAS on a machine with multiple NICs, how can I get both of them to show up in the webUI? | 01:50 |
NCommander | I can only see eth1 and "" (which appears to be lo0) | 01:50 |
sazawal | The minimode plugin in exaile 0.3.2.2 in Ubuntu 12.10 does not remember its position. Help! | 01:50 |
uvirtbot | New bug: #1070639 in juju (universe) ""juju status" trigger errors within my node logs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1070639 | 02:21 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #1022364 in mysql-5.5 (main) "package mysql-server-5.5 5.5.24-0ubuntu0.12.04.1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,Expired] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1022364 | 04:27 |
uvirtbot | New bug: #1029622 in mysql-5.5 (main) "package mysql-server-5.5 5.5.24-0ubuntu0.12.04.1 failed to install/upgrade: подпроцесс установлен сценарий post-installation возвратил код ошибки 1" [Medium,Expired] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1029622 | 04:27 |
stiv2k | anyone here | 04:55 |
stiv2k | so now that ubuntu has dropped non-PAE support, what do non-PAE people have to do? | 04:55 |
SinZ | Non-PAE? | 05:00 |
Gallomimia | hi guys. how's the newest release? I'm holding off on updating for a few more days... | 05:19 |
stiv2k | SinZ, yeah | 05:34 |
stiv2k | non PAE cpu | 05:34 |
SpamapS | stiv2k: You have 4.5 more years with 12.04 | 05:50 |
stiv2k | SpamapS , my friend already updated to 12.10 | 05:54 |
stiv2k | using a non PAE cpu | 05:54 |
SpamapS | stiv2k: IIRC, do-release-upgrade was supposed to stop that | 05:54 |
stiv2k | SpamapS lol, apparently it didnt | 05:54 |
SpamapS | stiv2k: if he did it with apt-get dist-upgrade .. not much we can do if he failed to read the release notes. | 05:54 |
SpamapS | stiv2k: I suppose he didn't backup the system first either, right? | 05:55 |
greppy | hrm | 05:55 |
greppy | doh, wrong window | 05:55 |
stiv2k | SpamapS, i cant remember which way he did it... but why would ubuntu include more than one way to upgrade? | 05:58 |
SpamapS | stiv2k: there is only one supported way | 06:01 |
stiv2k | that wasnt my question | 06:02 |
stiv2k | if theres only one supported way, why does any other way even exist? | 06:02 |
stiv2k | ya know? | 06:02 |
stiv2k | why would you give the possibility of another method if you arent going to support it | 06:02 |
stiv2k | or maybe giant red boldface text that says USE THE OTHER COMMAND INSTEAD when the user runs it | 06:03 |
SpamapS | stiv2k: because do-release-upgrade depends on the lower level dist-upgrade method. | 06:03 |
stiv2k | oh | 06:04 |
stiv2k | in any case, im pretty sure i sent him this link to follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/QuantalUpgrades | 06:04 |
stiv2k | which says to run do-release-upgrade | 06:04 |
SpamapS | Yeah so if thats not preventing non-PAE's from upgrading then I'd argue thats a bug | 06:04 |
stiv2k | yes | 06:05 |
stiv2k | i just looked at his bash history | 06:06 |
stiv2k | he used do-release-upgrade | 06:06 |
SpamapS | stiv2k: I just happen to be in the same building with the author of do-release-upgrade .. I'll ask him when I see him. | 06:06 |
stiv2k | SpamapS, do you reckon anyone might make a ppa for non-PAE kernels/ | 06:06 |
stiv2k | i cant imagine it would be that hard to make | 06:07 |
SpamapS | stiv2k: I'm not sure. IIRC, it was dropped because its a significantly difficult thing to support | 06:07 |
stiv2k | SpamapS, what building is that? you work at ubuntu corporate office or something? :P | 06:07 |
stiv2k | you mean its harder than just setting some kernel option? | 06:07 |
SpamapS | stiv2k: no, Bella Center in Copenhagen. We are at a pre-UDS meeting. | 06:08 |
SpamapS | stiv2k: yes, the patches that Ubuntu carries don't work with some of the non-PAE kernel bits IIRC | 06:08 |
stiv2k | oh | 06:08 |
stiv2k | is it possible for him to just skip the kernel updates | 06:09 |
stiv2k | right now his machine is running 3.2.0-32-generic #51-Ubuntu SMP | 06:09 |
SpamapS | stiv2k: yeah it should work for most things | 06:11 |
stiv2k | how to skip kernel updates | 06:11 |
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koolhead17 | philballew, hi | 06:59 |
philballew | koolhead17, sorry for delay | 07:22 |
philballew | got a phone call from the rents | 07:22 |
Sprocks | anyone here set up their own IRC server for ubuntu? | 07:56 |
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radish | hi, mysql (5.5.24-0ubuntu0.12.04.1) behaves odd. If I create a new database and user, login with the user afterwards, show privileges doesn't show the database I gave privileges for. Also the user can login without providing a password allthough I did specify one | 10:44 |
acidflash | hello all | 10:58 |
acidflash | i checked the file /sys/block/sde/queue/scheduler and inside it was the following -> noop deadline [cfq] | 10:59 |
acidflash | this means that cfg is the current scheduler? | 10:59 |
uvirtbot | New bug: #1067834 in maas "inconsistent use of reverse DNS for hostname" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1067834 | 11:06 |
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Psi-Jack | What shell interpreter does upstart actually use? | 13:16 |
Psi-Jack | Looks like just sh. | 13:25 |
Psi-Jack | dash, or compatible. :) | 13:25 |
MatBoy | guys, I cannot resolve domainnames, only their subdomains... what can be wrong here ? | 13:26 |
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dorftrottel_ | not the other way around? | 14:03 |
uvirtbot | New bug: #1070861 in maas (main) "MAAS does not support PDUs or ILOs for server reboot" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1070861 | 14:31 |
Aison | hello | 14:39 |
Aison | i've got two dns servers and I specified them in network/interfaces with | 14:39 |
Aison | dns-nameservers 2001:1620:f00:81d3::1 2001:1620:f00:81d3::2 | 14:39 |
Aison | why is there only the first one later in resolv.conf? nameserver 2001:1620:f00:81d3::1 | 14:40 |
uvirtbot | New bug: #1070867 in samba (main) "No "don't know/irrelevant" options when using apport for reporting samba bugs/crashes" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1070867 | 14:41 |
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zul | soren: ping | 14:58 |
zul | hallyn: i think we should have libvirt 1.0 in raring rather than 0.10.2 | 15:06 |
hallyn | zul: offhand i think i agree. well, wahtever the newest release will be around january | 15:07 |
hallyn | but, i've not used anything newer than what we have in q | 15:07 |
zul | hallyn: right i though 1.0 was suppose to be out at least in november | 15:07 |
hallyn | guess we should look at the timeline before next week. feh | 15:08 |
hallyn | (feh - bc i'm bearing down for some triaging :) | 15:08 |
zul | hallyn: meh | 15:09 |
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hallyn | stgraber: hm, lucid contaienrs aren't working for me on quantal hosts | 15:46 |
stgraber | mountall: Event failed | 15:47 |
stgraber | mount: mount point /dev/shm is a symbolic link to nowhere | 15:47 |
stgraber | mountall: mount /dev/shm [51] terminated with status 32 | 15:47 |
stgraber | mountall: Filesystem could not be mounted: /dev/shm | 15:47 |
stgraber | hallyn: ^ ? | 15:47 |
hallyn | oh right. someone else had reported that last week | 15:47 |
hallyn | gr | 15:48 |
hallyn | oh. is this bc of devtmpfs? | 15:48 |
hallyn | yes it is | 15:49 |
stgraber | fun | 15:49 |
hallyn | i don't even know what we want to do about this. i'll just check for (and file) a bug for now i guess. | 15:50 |
hallyn | on the brigh side, since lucid containers require lxcguest from ppa, they're funky anyway | 15:50 |
hallyn | stgraber: was it you who mentioned that last weekthen? | 15:51 |
stgraber | hallyn: this really needs fixing before the SRU lands though | 15:51 |
stgraber | hallyn: nope, wasn't me. Just heard about it now when you mentioned it (and checked against my newly rebuilt containers) | 15:52 |
hallyn | stgraber: good point. | 15:52 |
hallyn | stgraber: any thoughts on the right fix? | 15:52 |
hallyn | maybe the right fix is for my lxcguest to mangle /dev/shm into a symlink | 15:52 |
stgraber | well, /dev/shm is a symlink ;) | 15:52 |
stgraber | mount: mount point /dev/shm is a symbolic link to nowhere | 15:52 |
hallyn | sorry, a dir i meant :) | 15:53 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #1070914 in lxc (universe) "lucid containers don't start on quantal hosts" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1070914 | 16:01 |
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Aison | i've got two dns servers and I specified them in network/interfaces with | 17:11 |
Aison | dns-nameservers 2001:1620:f00:81d3::1 2001:1620:f00:81d3::2 | 17:11 |
Aison | why is there only the first one later in resolv.conf? nameserver 2001:1620:f00:81d3::1 | 17:11 |
Aison | with ipv4 it works | 17:11 |
stgraber | Aison: how many "nameserver" entries do you get in /etc/resolv.conf? | 17:12 |
Aison | three, two ipv4 and the first of ipv6 | 17:12 |
stgraber | right, so that's why | 17:12 |
stgraber | the maximum number of entries in /etc/resolv.conf is 3 | 17:12 |
Aison | ok, why? | 17:13 |
stgraber | Aison: because someone once set MAXNS to 3 in resolv.h apparently, so the libc resolver can only understand the first 3 nameserver entries | 17:13 |
stgraber | any extra one would just be ignored | 17:13 |
Aison | quite funny | 17:15 |
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fred__ | I'm trying MAAS + juju on quantal. As there is no mysql charm for quantal, I cannot deploy in using juju, should I use precise's version? | 18:32 |
genii-around | Would anyone know perhaps offhand the minimum amount of free disk space needed for Lucid->Precise upgrade with do-release-upgrade? The machine is pretty tight right now: /dev/sda1 9.0G 7.6G 882M 90% / ( although I could bindmount something like /var/cache/apt to the RAID1 which has lots of free room ) | 19:12 |
RoyK | genii-around: start with an apt-cache clean | 19:16 |
RoyK | genii-around: it's quite impossible to determine the amount needed for a full upgrade, though | 19:17 |
genii-around | RoyK: That df is already after an apt-cache clean, actually... | 19:17 |
RoyK | genii-around: that's why I always use LVM even for the root, to allow it to grow if needed | 19:17 |
RoyK | perhaps check /var/log | 19:18 |
RoyK | or do you have databases running under the root partition? | 19:18 |
RoyK | 7,6GiB used for the root on a server is quite a lot | 19:19 |
genii-around | RoyK: Yes, this machine is primarily for the surveillence so it is basically LAMP plus Zoneminder. The camera footage all goes on the RAID1 right now | 19:19 |
RoyK | and you have all databases on the root partition= | 19:20 |
RoyK | ? | 19:20 |
genii-around | Yes | 19:20 |
RoyK | sub-optimal to be diplomatic | 19:21 |
RoyK | the root should be used for root stuff, not variable data | 19:21 |
RoyK | databases are very variable data indeed | 19:22 |
genii-around | I basically wanted to be keep the main disk size down to below 16G so I could dd it off onto a USB stick on occasion | 19:23 |
genii-around | Guess I could add another drive, I have a bunch of old ones around here someplace | 19:24 |
mdeslaur | SpamapS: have you ever gotten a mysql test suite failure in main.trigger-compat ? | 19:24 |
fred__ | genii-around: if your raid1 storage is large enough, consider moving your db on it | 19:25 |
RoyK | genii-around: you don't want a database on your root partition. period. | 19:25 |
RoyK | genii-around: and you don't want a database on something that's not redundant | 19:25 |
genii-around | Yes, moving the /var to some subdir on the RAID1 seems to be prudent | 19:26 |
RoyK | genii-around: just move /var to the raidset | 19:27 |
RoyK | genii-around: next time, mirror the root as well, so that when that drive dies, the server doesn't ;) | 19:27 |
* genii-around goes and tinkers | 19:31 | |
hallyn | not again | 19:36 |
hallyn | SpamapS: /win 15 | 19:37 |
hallyn | well hmm | 19:38 |
hallyn | nm | 19:38 |
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subman | I'm trying to setup an rsync cronjob using ssh with keys but I seem to be having a problem. I've setup the keys and can log into the remote storage machine with no problem. However I tried to duplicate the cronjob (I assume they are run as user 'root') with sudo and it still asks me for a password. Did I need to setup the keys with the user 'root'? | 19:49 |
sarnold | sudo will ask you for a password unless you configure it not to | 19:50 |
sarnold | but .. | 19:50 |
sarnold | you may just wish to run the command via whichever user account's crontab is appropriate? | 19:50 |
subman | Yes, sudo did ask me for a password, but I am concerned with the ssh also asking me for a password. I have already logged into that user account on the remote machine via ssh with no password required now that he keys are setup. | 19:51 |
fred__ | subman: you need an ssh-agent running | 19:52 |
sarnold | subman: are the keys password protected? do you have an ssh-agent running to supply them with the passphrase if they are password protected? | 19:53 |
subman | sarnold, No, keys have no passphrase | 19:53 |
sarnold | okay | 19:54 |
subman | Maybe I'm asking this question the wrong way. | 19:54 |
sarnold | maybe a bit too abstract? :) | 19:54 |
sarnold | which user account on which host is running which commands? :) | 19:54 |
subman | Maybe I should ask this question in a forum to explain it in complete detail exactly what I'm trying to do here. | 19:59 |
sarnold | subman: or maybe paste the command you've put into which crontab... | 20:01 |
subman | * 0 * * * rsync -avv --delete /home kitty@192.168.2.3:/home/kitty >> /var/log/rsyncbackup.log | 20:01 |
sarnold | okay :) which crontab is this in? | 20:02 |
subman | I created that with crontab -e as a user on the machine that I want to backup the home directories from. | 20:06 |
sarnold | subman: and does that user account have read access to the entirety of /home ? | 20:08 |
subman | sarnold, Ah, I assume that the cronjobs run as root. They run as the user that created them? | 20:09 |
subman | No, this user does not have read rights to the whole /home directory. I should change that. | 20:09 |
sarnold | subman: yeah, each user has their own crontab; that's what you get with crontab -e :) | 20:09 |
subman | Yeah, I'm new at this. | 20:09 |
sarnold | subman: if you want to run it as root, it might be easier to add that line to the /etc/crontab file, or simplify it a little and put it into /etc/cron.daily/ or similar | 20:10 |
sarnold | subman: but make sure the keys are available to root; maybe you'll need to move them to /root/.ssh/ | 20:10 |
sarnold | (root _does_ have a 'user crontab file', via crontab -e, but that's .. odd.) | 20:11 |
subman | sarnold, I think I'm understanding it all better now. | 20:11 |
sarnold | subman: cron -is- a bit cumbersome :) but it's grown to be that way by handling a lot of other needs that are hard to handle with other tools... | 20:12 |
subman | I would normally use a GUI tool to do backups, but this is my first install with a non GUI server install. Time to learn the command line way to do things! | 20:13 |
sarnold | and besides, the gui will probably end up calling rsync in the end anyhow | 20:14 |
sarnold | I've seen plenty of those "products" before... | 20:14 |
subman | Exactly! | 20:14 |
subman | I thought it about time to roll up my sleeves and dive right in. | 20:14 |
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subman | Now, if I change the permissions of /home to be 'read' for the user doing the rsync, will that permission carry over to any newly created files not owned by that user? | 20:16 |
sarnold | subman: depending upon the site reliability, you may also like to add --partial to the rsync command line -- that will allow it to re-use the portion of a file that may already exist on the remote end. (ideally this would just be magically correct, but it isn't..) | 20:17 |
sarnold | subman: no; getting read access propagated down a directory hierarchy correctly is pretty complicated | 20:17 |
sarnold | subman: your choices are (a) run a command that forces all the permissions to be "correct" before running it (b) some complicated "BSD groups" behavior (awesome for when you need it, but definitely a new complication) (c) just running the rsync as root. | 20:18 |
subman | I currently run the rsync as root via sudo but his won't work with the user account level cronjob. | 20:19 |
subman | I assume that I must then create the cronjob as root? | 20:19 |
sarnold | subman: that's what I would do | 20:21 |
subman | sarnold, Great, doing that just now. /etc/crontab. | 20:21 |
subman | and move the keys.... | 20:22 |
subman | hmmm, keys still do not work as root | 20:29 |
subman | Got it! | 20:31 |
sarnold | subman: hrm. is /root/.ssh group or world readable? | 20:31 |
subman | It worked. I had to copy over both files in the .ssh directory | 20:32 |
subman | Sorry, both directories under the .ssh directory of the user | 20:32 |
sarnold | directories under .ssh? | 20:32 |
subman | keys are held in two directories under the .ssh directory. id_rsa and id_rsa.pub | 20:33 |
uvirtbot | New bug: #1071011 in qemu-kvm (main) "specific device not available in client (passthrough) with high cpu load on host, none in client" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1071011 | 20:34 |
subman | ls | 20:34 |
subman | (oops) | 20:34 |
sarnold | subman: those ought to just be files | 20:35 |
subman | Yes they are, sorry for the terminology | 20:35 |
subman | Too much learning today! | 20:35 |
sarnold | okay ;) | 20:35 |
sarnold | hehe | 20:36 |
subman | So many new things, but a ton of fun here. | 20:36 |
subman | sarnold, Thanks for your help here, greatly appreciated! | 20:36 |
sarnold | subman: sure, I'm glad you're still having fun :) | 20:36 |
subman | Oh yeah, no problem there. I'm sure I'll make some huge errors but these are not production machines. | 20:37 |
subman | Just learning machines | 20:37 |
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soren | zul: 'sup? | 20:43 |
zul | soren: should i be bringing gloves next week :) | 20:44 |
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soren | zul: Of course. Just like any other UDS. | 20:45 |
soren | zul: Oh, *gloves*? Uh, no. Why would you? | 20:46 |
zul | just figure out stuff out | 20:46 |
sazawal | The minimode plugin in exaile 0.3.2.2 cannot remember its position and moves back to top left corner. I have just upgraded to Ubuntu 12.10 and the problem started. There is something I can do in the plugin script at /usr/share/exaile/plugins/minimode. Please help | 21:29 |
sarnold | hrm, seems I saw someone yesterday complaining about that. check launchpad, he or she may have filed a bug? | 21:31 |
sazawal | sarnold, I guess that was me :D | 21:35 |
sarnold | sazawal: oh :) | 21:35 |
sazawal | Well, I should file the bug then. | 21:36 |
sazawal | sarnold, do you use exaile? | 21:36 |
sarnold | sazawal: no, I hadn't heard of it, the funny name stuck out though.. :) | 21:37 |
sazawal | sarnold, haha, no problem. Its a media player | 21:37 |
sarnold | :) | 21:38 |
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Aison | is it possible that isc-dhcp-server of ubuntu 12.10 is broken? | 22:16 |
uvirtbot | New bug: #1071053 in postfix (main) "Postfix does or doesn't relay mail from localhost to the internet depending on whether I connect via router or via 3G modem" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1071053 | 22:26 |
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