=== shantorn_ is now known as shantorn [00:40] New bug: #1070617 in postfix (main) "package postfix 2.9.3-2ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: sub-processo script post-installation instalado retornou estado de saída de erro 75" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1070617 === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [01:50] When using MAAS on a machine with multiple NICs, how can I get both of them to show up in the webUI? [01:50] I can only see eth1 and "" (which appears to be lo0) [01:50] The minimode plugin in exaile 0.3.2.2 in Ubuntu 12.10 does not remember its position. Help! [02:21] New bug: #1070639 in juju (universe) ""juju status" trigger errors within my node logs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1070639 === n0ts_off is now known as n0ts === rschultz is now known as daemonoob === n0ts is now known as n0ts_off [04:27] New bug: #1022364 in mysql-5.5 (main) "package mysql-server-5.5 5.5.24-0ubuntu0.12.04.1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,Expired] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1022364 [04:27] New bug: #1029622 in mysql-5.5 (main) "package mysql-server-5.5 5.5.24-0ubuntu0.12.04.1 failed to install/upgrade: подпроцесс установлен сценарий post-installation возвратил код ошибки 1" [Medium,Expired] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1029622 [04:55] anyone here [04:55] so now that ubuntu has dropped non-PAE support, what do non-PAE people have to do? [05:00] Non-PAE? [05:19] hi guys. how's the newest release? I'm holding off on updating for a few more days... [05:34] SinZ, yeah [05:34] non PAE cpu [05:50] stiv2k: You have 4.5 more years with 12.04 [05:54] SpamapS , my friend already updated to 12.10 [05:54] using a non PAE cpu [05:54] stiv2k: IIRC, do-release-upgrade was supposed to stop that [05:54] SpamapS lol, apparently it didnt [05:54] stiv2k: if he did it with apt-get dist-upgrade .. not much we can do if he failed to read the release notes. [05:55] stiv2k: I suppose he didn't backup the system first either, right? [05:55] hrm [05:55] doh, wrong window [05:58] SpamapS, i cant remember which way he did it... but why would ubuntu include more than one way to upgrade? [06:01] stiv2k: there is only one supported way [06:02] that wasnt my question [06:02] if theres only one supported way, why does any other way even exist? [06:02] ya know? [06:02] why would you give the possibility of another method if you arent going to support it [06:03] or maybe giant red boldface text that says USE THE OTHER COMMAND INSTEAD when the user runs it [06:03] stiv2k: because do-release-upgrade depends on the lower level dist-upgrade method. [06:04] oh [06:04] in any case, im pretty sure i sent him this link to follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/QuantalUpgrades [06:04] which says to run do-release-upgrade [06:04] Yeah so if thats not preventing non-PAE's from upgrading then I'd argue thats a bug [06:05] yes [06:06] i just looked at his bash history [06:06] he used do-release-upgrade [06:06] stiv2k: I just happen to be in the same building with the author of do-release-upgrade .. I'll ask him when I see him. [06:06] SpamapS, do you reckon anyone might make a ppa for non-PAE kernels/ [06:07] i cant imagine it would be that hard to make [06:07] stiv2k: I'm not sure. IIRC, it was dropped because its a significantly difficult thing to support [06:07] SpamapS, what building is that? you work at ubuntu corporate office or something? :P [06:07] you mean its harder than just setting some kernel option? [06:08] stiv2k: no, Bella Center in Copenhagen. We are at a pre-UDS meeting. [06:08] stiv2k: yes, the patches that Ubuntu carries don't work with some of the non-PAE kernel bits IIRC [06:08] oh [06:09] is it possible for him to just skip the kernel updates [06:09] right now his machine is running 3.2.0-32-generic #51-Ubuntu SMP [06:11] stiv2k: yeah it should work for most things [06:11] how to skip kernel updates === n0ts_off is now known as n0ts === smb` is now known as smb [06:59] philballew, hi [07:22] koolhead17, sorry for delay [07:22] got a phone call from the rents [07:56] anyone here set up their own IRC server for ubuntu? === mcclurmc is now known as mcclurmc_away === n0ts is now known as n0ts_off === jtv1 is now known as jtv [10:44] hi, mysql (5.5.24-0ubuntu0.12.04.1) behaves odd. If I create a new database and user, login with the user afterwards, show privileges doesn't show the database I gave privileges for. Also the user can login without providing a password allthough I did specify one [10:58] hello all [10:59] i checked the file /sys/block/sde/queue/scheduler and inside it was the following -> noop deadline [cfq] [10:59] this means that cfg is the current scheduler? [11:06] New bug: #1067834 in maas "inconsistent use of reverse DNS for hostname" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1067834 === cpg is now known as cpg|away [13:16] What shell interpreter does upstart actually use? [13:25] Looks like just sh. [13:25] dash, or compatible. :) [13:26] guys, I cannot resolve domainnames, only their subdomains... what can be wrong here ? === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [14:03] not the other way around? [14:31] New bug: #1070861 in maas (main) "MAAS does not support PDUs or ILOs for server reboot" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1070861 [14:39] hello [14:39] i've got two dns servers and I specified them in network/interfaces with [14:39] dns-nameservers 2001:1620:f00:81d3::1 2001:1620:f00:81d3::2 [14:40] why is there only the first one later in resolv.conf? nameserver 2001:1620:f00:81d3::1 [14:41] New bug: #1070867 in samba (main) "No "don't know/irrelevant" options when using apport for reporting samba bugs/crashes" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1070867 === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [14:58] soren: ping [15:06] hallyn: i think we should have libvirt 1.0 in raring rather than 0.10.2 [15:07] zul: offhand i think i agree. well, wahtever the newest release will be around january [15:07] but, i've not used anything newer than what we have in q [15:07] hallyn: right i though 1.0 was suppose to be out at least in november [15:08] guess we should look at the timeline before next week. feh [15:08] (feh - bc i'm bearing down for some triaging :) [15:09] hallyn: meh === n0ts_off is now known as n0ts === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha === mrmist is now known as groupcat === groupcat is now known as mrmist [15:46] stgraber: hm, lucid contaienrs aren't working for me on quantal hosts [15:47] mountall: Event failed [15:47] mount: mount point /dev/shm is a symbolic link to nowhere [15:47] mountall: mount /dev/shm [51] terminated with status 32 [15:47] mountall: Filesystem could not be mounted: /dev/shm [15:47] hallyn: ^ ? [15:47] oh right. someone else had reported that last week [15:48] gr [15:48] oh. is this bc of devtmpfs? [15:49] yes it is [15:49] fun [15:50] i don't even know what we want to do about this. i'll just check for (and file) a bug for now i guess. [15:50] on the brigh side, since lucid containers require lxcguest from ppa, they're funky anyway [15:51] stgraber: was it you who mentioned that last weekthen? [15:51] hallyn: this really needs fixing before the SRU lands though [15:52] hallyn: nope, wasn't me. Just heard about it now when you mentioned it (and checked against my newly rebuilt containers) [15:52] stgraber: good point. [15:52] stgraber: any thoughts on the right fix? [15:52] maybe the right fix is for my lxcguest to mangle /dev/shm into a symlink [15:52] well, /dev/shm is a symlink ;) [15:52] mount: mount point /dev/shm is a symbolic link to nowhere [15:53] sorry, a dir i meant :) === mcclurmc_away is now known as mcclurmc [16:01] New bug: #1070914 in lxc (universe) "lucid containers don't start on quantal hosts" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1070914 === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk === mcclurmc is now known as mcclurmc_away === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [17:11] i've got two dns servers and I specified them in network/interfaces with [17:11] dns-nameservers 2001:1620:f00:81d3::1 2001:1620:f00:81d3::2 [17:11] why is there only the first one later in resolv.conf? nameserver 2001:1620:f00:81d3::1 [17:11] with ipv4 it works [17:12] Aison: how many "nameserver" entries do you get in /etc/resolv.conf? [17:12] three, two ipv4 and the first of ipv6 [17:12] right, so that's why [17:12] the maximum number of entries in /etc/resolv.conf is 3 [17:13] ok, why? [17:13] Aison: because someone once set MAXNS to 3 in resolv.h apparently, so the libc resolver can only understand the first 3 nameserver entries [17:13] any extra one would just be ignored [17:15] quite funny === n0ts is now known as n0ts_off === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk === dcd is now known as deadcandance [18:32] I'm trying MAAS + juju on quantal. As there is no mysql charm for quantal, I cannot deploy in using juju, should I use precise's version? [19:12] Would anyone know perhaps offhand the minimum amount of free disk space needed for Lucid->Precise upgrade with do-release-upgrade? The machine is pretty tight right now: /dev/sda1 9.0G 7.6G 882M 90% / ( although I could bindmount something like /var/cache/apt to the RAID1 which has lots of free room ) [19:16] genii-around: start with an apt-cache clean [19:17] genii-around: it's quite impossible to determine the amount needed for a full upgrade, though [19:17] RoyK: That df is already after an apt-cache clean, actually... [19:17] genii-around: that's why I always use LVM even for the root, to allow it to grow if needed [19:18] perhaps check /var/log [19:18] or do you have databases running under the root partition? [19:19] 7,6GiB used for the root on a server is quite a lot [19:19] RoyK: Yes, this machine is primarily for the surveillence so it is basically LAMP plus Zoneminder. The camera footage all goes on the RAID1 right now [19:20] and you have all databases on the root partition= [19:20] ? [19:20] Yes [19:21] sub-optimal to be diplomatic [19:21] the root should be used for root stuff, not variable data [19:22] databases are very variable data indeed [19:23] I basically wanted to be keep the main disk size down to below 16G so I could dd it off onto a USB stick on occasion [19:24] Guess I could add another drive, I have a bunch of old ones around here someplace [19:24] SpamapS: have you ever gotten a mysql test suite failure in main.trigger-compat ? [19:25] genii-around: if your raid1 storage is large enough, consider moving your db on it [19:25] genii-around: you don't want a database on your root partition. period. [19:25] genii-around: and you don't want a database on something that's not redundant [19:26] Yes, moving the /var to some subdir on the RAID1 seems to be prudent [19:27] genii-around: just move /var to the raidset [19:27] genii-around: next time, mirror the root as well, so that when that drive dies, the server doesn't ;) [19:31] * genii-around goes and tinkers [19:36] not again [19:37] SpamapS: /win 15 [19:38] well hmm [19:38] nm === cpg|away is now known as cpg [19:49] I'm trying to setup an rsync cronjob using ssh with keys but I seem to be having a problem. I've setup the keys and can log into the remote storage machine with no problem. However I tried to duplicate the cronjob (I assume they are run as user 'root') with sudo and it still asks me for a password. Did I need to setup the keys with the user 'root'? [19:50] sudo will ask you for a password unless you configure it not to [19:50] but .. [19:50] you may just wish to run the command via whichever user account's crontab is appropriate? [19:51] Yes, sudo did ask me for a password, but I am concerned with the ssh also asking me for a password. I have already logged into that user account on the remote machine via ssh with no password required now that he keys are setup. [19:52] subman: you need an ssh-agent running [19:53] subman: are the keys password protected? do you have an ssh-agent running to supply them with the passphrase if they are password protected? [19:53] sarnold, No, keys have no passphrase [19:54] okay [19:54] Maybe I'm asking this question the wrong way. [19:54] maybe a bit too abstract? :) [19:54] which user account on which host is running which commands? :) [19:59] Maybe I should ask this question in a forum to explain it in complete detail exactly what I'm trying to do here. [20:01] subman: or maybe paste the command you've put into which crontab... [20:01] * 0 * * * rsync -avv --delete /home kitty@192.168.2.3:/home/kitty >> /var/log/rsyncbackup.log [20:02] okay :) which crontab is this in? [20:06] I created that with crontab -e as a user on the machine that I want to backup the home directories from. [20:08] subman: and does that user account have read access to the entirety of /home ? [20:09] sarnold, Ah, I assume that the cronjobs run as root. They run as the user that created them? [20:09] No, this user does not have read rights to the whole /home directory. I should change that. [20:09] subman: yeah, each user has their own crontab; that's what you get with crontab -e :) [20:09] Yeah, I'm new at this. [20:10] subman: if you want to run it as root, it might be easier to add that line to the /etc/crontab file, or simplify it a little and put it into /etc/cron.daily/ or similar [20:10] subman: but make sure the keys are available to root; maybe you'll need to move them to /root/.ssh/ [20:11] (root _does_ have a 'user crontab file', via crontab -e, but that's .. odd.) [20:11] sarnold, I think I'm understanding it all better now. [20:12] subman: cron -is- a bit cumbersome :) but it's grown to be that way by handling a lot of other needs that are hard to handle with other tools... [20:13] I would normally use a GUI tool to do backups, but this is my first install with a non GUI server install. Time to learn the command line way to do things! [20:14] and besides, the gui will probably end up calling rsync in the end anyhow [20:14] I've seen plenty of those "products" before... [20:14] Exactly! [20:14] I thought it about time to roll up my sleeves and dive right in. === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [20:16] Now, if I change the permissions of /home to be 'read' for the user doing the rsync, will that permission carry over to any newly created files not owned by that user? [20:17] subman: depending upon the site reliability, you may also like to add --partial to the rsync command line -- that will allow it to re-use the portion of a file that may already exist on the remote end. (ideally this would just be magically correct, but it isn't..) [20:17] subman: no; getting read access propagated down a directory hierarchy correctly is pretty complicated [20:18] subman: your choices are (a) run a command that forces all the permissions to be "correct" before running it (b) some complicated "BSD groups" behavior (awesome for when you need it, but definitely a new complication) (c) just running the rsync as root. [20:19] I currently run the rsync as root via sudo but his won't work with the user account level cronjob. [20:19] I assume that I must then create the cronjob as root? [20:21] subman: that's what I would do [20:21] sarnold, Great, doing that just now. /etc/crontab. [20:22] and move the keys.... [20:29] hmmm, keys still do not work as root [20:31] Got it! [20:31] subman: hrm. is /root/.ssh group or world readable? [20:32] It worked. I had to copy over both files in the .ssh directory [20:32] Sorry, both directories under the .ssh directory of the user [20:32] directories under .ssh? [20:33] keys are held in two directories under the .ssh directory. id_rsa and id_rsa.pub [20:34] New bug: #1071011 in qemu-kvm (main) "specific device not available in client (passthrough) with high cpu load on host, none in client" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1071011 [20:34] ls [20:34] (oops) [20:35] subman: those ought to just be files [20:35] Yes they are, sorry for the terminology [20:35] Too much learning today! [20:35] okay ;) [20:36] hehe [20:36] So many new things, but a ton of fun here. [20:36] sarnold, Thanks for your help here, greatly appreciated! [20:36] subman: sure, I'm glad you're still having fun :) [20:37] Oh yeah, no problem there. I'm sure I'll make some huge errors but these are not production machines. [20:37] Just learning machines === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [20:43] zul: 'sup? [20:44] soren: should i be bringing gloves next week :) === cpg is now known as cpg|away === glebihan_ is now known as glebihan [20:45] zul: Of course. Just like any other UDS. [20:46] zul: Oh, *gloves*? Uh, no. Why would you? [20:46] just figure out stuff out [21:29] The minimode plugin in exaile 0.3.2.2 cannot remember its position and moves back to top left corner. I have just upgraded to Ubuntu 12.10 and the problem started. There is something I can do in the plugin script at /usr/share/exaile/plugins/minimode. Please help [21:31] hrm, seems I saw someone yesterday complaining about that. check launchpad, he or she may have filed a bug? [21:35] sarnold, I guess that was me :D [21:35] sazawal: oh :) [21:36] Well, I should file the bug then. [21:36] sarnold, do you use exaile? [21:37] sazawal: no, I hadn't heard of it, the funny name stuck out though.. :) [21:37] sarnold, haha, no problem. Its a media player [21:38] :) === cpg|away is now known as cpg [22:16] is it possible that isc-dhcp-server of ubuntu 12.10 is broken? [22:26] New bug: #1071053 in postfix (main) "Postfix does or doesn't relay mail from localhost to the internet depending on whether I connect via router or via 3G modem" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1071053 === zastern is now known as zastern_ === zastern_ is now known as zastern === kInOzAwA1 is now known as kInOzAwA