| magtie | Hi hallo is anybody alive around here? | 00:02 |
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| === SmilyBorg_h is now known as SmilyBorg | ||
| Kilos | morning superfly and others | 04:53 |
| * Kilos got a story to tell | 05:17 | |
| Kilos | tried to configure nvidia-config with nvidia-current installed | 05:18 |
| Kilos | screen went down to 640x480 again and couldnt get it back up | 05:19 |
| Kilos | purged nvidia-current--no change | 05:19 |
| Kilos | installed nvidia prop driver 173 which was the recommended one and it configured and everything back to normal and pc seems a bit faster | 05:20 |
| Kilos | was about to clean install again like last 2 times i tried to do nvidia-config | 05:22 |
| Kilos | so , happiness is not needing to | 05:22 |
| inetpro | pragtig Kilos! | 05:26 |
| inetpro | goeie more | 05:26 |
| Kilos | môre inetpro | 05:27 |
| Kilos | jy is lekker vroeg | 05:27 |
| Kilos | bed nat gemaak? | 05:27 |
| Kilos | canonical has a plan. after reading up on the improvements in 12.10, one doesnt want to stay on 12.04 anymore | 05:37 |
| inetpro | Kilos: there's method in the madness? | 05:39 |
| Kilos | lol | 05:40 |
| inetpro | obviously! | 05:40 |
| Kilos | yeah | 05:40 |
| Kilos | they want us to grow along with them | 05:40 |
| Kilos | if it wasnt for 11.04 and 11.10 i would have | 05:41 |
| Kilos | lo Ludo | 05:52 |
| Kilos | morning Tonberry | 06:02 |
| Tonberry | hallo | 06:02 |
| superfly | hiya Kilos, Tonberry, inetpro | 06:04 |
| === SmilyBorg_w is now known as SmilyBorg | ||
| Kilos | what kinda terminals are UXTerm and XTerm? | 06:18 |
| Kilos | morning SmilyBorg | 06:19 |
| SmilyBorg | Hey there Kilos | 06:19 |
| superfly | Kilos: older versions of Gnome Terminal and Konsole | 06:20 |
| superfly | morning SmilyBorg | 06:20 |
| SmilyBorg | hey Superfly | 06:20 |
| Kilos | when i type term in dash it shows them too. does one use them for special purposes ? | 06:21 |
| Kilos | or are they basically the same thing? | 06:21 |
| superfly | Kilos: basically the same thing | 06:22 |
| Kilos | ty superfly | 06:22 |
| superfly | Kilos: I've used them on other desktop environments, but they don't have as many features as Konsole | 06:23 |
| Kilos | aha ty sir | 06:23 |
| Kilos | morning magtie | 06:29 |
| Kilos | welcome to ubuntu-za | 06:29 |
| Kilos | ons praat die taal ook hier | 06:29 |
| Kilos | nice to see another lady joining | 06:30 |
| magtie | Hi Kilos & everyone | 06:32 |
| magtie | I'm back after about 5 years - practically brand new! | 06:32 |
| superfly | magtie: I was going to say your nick looked somewhat familiar | 06:33 |
| Kilos | if you need help magtie just state what you need and someone will help you as soon as they get a break | 06:33 |
| Kilos | wow welcome back then | 06:33 |
| inetpro | magtie: wb | 06:33 |
| * inetpro remembers seeing magtie here before | 06:33 | |
| magtie | thanks I am not yet into stupid questions yet.... | 06:34 |
| Kilos | haha thats my field | 06:34 |
| magtie | got my irc working last night & was amazed to find no one here - then I realized its 2 in the morning | 06:36 |
| magtie | 'Normal' people were sleeping. | 06:36 |
| Kilos | lol | 06:37 |
| superfly | That would be me. :-P | 06:37 |
| SmilyBorg | even some of us not so normal people were sleeping too. Welcome magtie | 06:37 |
| Kilos | hiya maiatoday | 06:42 |
| maiatoday | hi Kilos | 06:43 |
| Squirm | morning | 06:59 |
| Kilos | hi Squirm | 07:01 |
| Vince-0 | Whoot! It's only Wednesday | 07:32 |
| Kilos | hi Vince-0 | 07:32 |
| Vince-0 | Hey Kilos | 07:32 |
| superfly | ohi Vince-0 | 07:39 |
| Kilos | magtie, most of us werent here 5 years ago. tell us about yourself | 07:40 |
| Kilos | what you do? wwhere you are etc | 07:41 |
| Kilos | Maaz, coffee on | 07:41 |
| * Maaz flips the salt-timer | 07:41 | |
| Kilos | Maaz, coffee for all | 07:41 |
| Maaz | Come on ya buncha geeks. Rock up with your mugs with the correct amount of sugar added already | 07:41 |
| Kilos | cold here in PTA today | 07:42 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for Kilos! | 07:45 |
| Kilos | Maaz, thanks man | 07:45 |
| Maaz | Kilos It gives me great pleasure to serve a bunch of geeks :-) | 07:45 |
| Vince-0 | Maaz, make me a sandwich and deliver to La Lucia office park | 07:49 |
| Maaz | Vince-0: Excuse me? | 07:49 |
| Vince-0 | Maaz, you heard me now get in that kitchen | 07:49 |
| Maaz | Vince-0: Excuse me? | 07:49 |
| Kilos | hehe | 07:49 |
| Vince-0 | ha | 07:49 |
| Vince-0 | Maaz, are you female? | 07:50 |
| Maaz | Come on, be realistic. I'm a Bot | 07:50 |
| Vince-0 | Maaz, I kid, I kid | 07:50 |
| Maaz | Vince-0: Sorry... | 07:50 |
| Kilos | lol | 07:50 |
| magtie | Kilos I am working for the SACAA keeping license records & producing ATC Licenses on MS Access | 08:03 |
| magtie | otherwise I'm on leave & playing on Ubuntu | 08:04 |
| Kilos | where? | 08:04 |
| Kilos | city wise i me | 08:04 |
| magtie | Civil Aviation Authority, Midrand | 08:04 |
| Kilos | mean | 08:04 |
| magtie | I live in Pretoria' | 08:05 |
| Kilos | ah me too. there is a release party this weekend | 08:05 |
| magtie | Ya in Centurion - am thinking about it | 08:06 |
| Kilos | us valies are becoming more at last | 08:07 |
| Kilos | lotsa cape peeps here | 08:08 |
| magtie | I just looked at the new office files & it looks very good | 08:09 |
| magtie | anybody her who knows everything about the database? | 08:10 |
| magtie | looks like I should be able to import Access into LibreOfficeBase | 08:12 |
| Kerbero | do you write sql queries to do the things you do? | 08:17 |
| Kerbero | or do you use access's forms | 08:17 |
| magtie | Kerbero: I do use queries & macros & code | 08:42 |
| magtie | At the moment I will only be interested in importing the tables | 08:44 |
| magtie | I am still trying to simply create a table | 08:44 |
| Kerbero | i would go with something decent like mysql or postgresql | 08:46 |
| Kerbero | for mysql you get phpmyadmin which is a nice webfrontend to manage it | 08:46 |
| Kerbero | but you'll have to code sql queries for the most things | 08:46 |
| Kerbero | or python/php scripts that will basically function as macros that will run the queries | 08:47 |
| magtie | Hay, that might really be better as Access is based on sql | 08:47 |
| Kerbero | just export all your data to .csv files | 08:48 |
| Kerbero | and import it to mysql with phpmyadmin | 08:48 |
| magtie | Kerbero: thanks I will definitely look into it | 08:49 |
| Squirm | hi | 08:56 |
| Squirm | again | 08:56 |
| Kilos | hehe | 08:56 |
| drussell | Kilos: the problem is not just for people that download.... | 09:26 |
| drussell | Kilos: wrt space | 09:26 |
| drussell | Kilos: it's actually about how much bandwidth our mirrors use | 09:27 |
| Kilos | oh ty drussell was just an idea | 09:27 |
| drussell | Kilos: each time the size increases, we have major conversations with the mirrors that are distributing the iso files | 09:27 |
| Kilos | hows things there? | 09:27 |
| drussell | Kilos: because they're big files, mirrors are happier with smaller files/updates | 09:28 |
| drussell | Kilos: good thanks :o) | 09:28 |
| Kilos | and what about on the official dvd's drussell | 09:28 |
| drussell | Kilos: same deal | 09:29 |
| Kilos | ah ty for coming back to me | 09:29 |
| Kilos | see inetpro it works on #ubuntu-za too | 09:29 |
| Kilos | we got fingers in lotsa pies | 09:29 |
| Kilos | sometimes even the crash kid has a comment or two | 09:31 |
| Kilos | just drubin be scarce | 09:31 |
| Kilos | and corrie is a write off here it seems | 09:31 |
| Kilos | magespawn, are you lurking or is this your quassel core lurking for you | 09:32 |
| charlvn | good morning | 09:42 |
| charlvn | Maaz: coffee on | 09:42 |
| * Maaz flips the salt-timer | 09:42 | |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for charlvn! | 09:46 |
| Kilos | my magtie all gone | 10:10 |
| * Kilos cries. maverick drive has crashed | 10:14 | |
| Kilos | weeee | 10:14 |
| Symmetria | hrm | 10:16 |
| Symmetria | heh, comes to a point in every consultants life where he has to decide, stay private and independant, or expand the business drastically and throw caution to the wind | 10:17 |
| Symmetria | ugh, I dont know what to do | 10:17 |
| Kilos | throw caution to the wind | 10:17 |
| Kilos | you can alsways get a job again if things dont work out | 10:18 |
| Kilos | always | 10:18 |
| Kilos | start worrying when you have to ride around in a 1975 beetle | 10:19 |
| zeref | hmmm | 10:19 |
| Kilos | hi zeref | 10:19 |
| zeref | hi zeref | 10:19 |
| zeref | o0o0 | 10:19 |
| zeref | hi Kilos | 10:19 |
| zeref | anybody used pygame | 10:20 |
| Symmetria | heh kilos oh, the money isnt the issue | 10:24 |
| Symmetria | its the independance | 10:24 |
| Symmetria | I have the investment money I need to do this, with a lot of change to spare, but ugh | 10:24 |
| Kilos | independance is good if you can | 10:24 |
| Symmetria | the question is, do I really need to make more money :P | 10:25 |
| Kilos | yes you do if tire prices bother you | 10:25 |
| Symmetria | because I'm doing pretty damn well for myself right now, and Im asking myself, what am I really chasing expanding, if its money, then it makes no sense, if its building a legacy, that makes more sense | 10:25 |
| Symmetria | heh kilos, you don't get to have the kinda cash Ive made without worrying about the small things and avoiding paying insane prices for things :p | 10:26 |
| Kilos | legacy is good. you might have kids to leave it too one day | 10:26 |
| Kilos | hehe im teasing you man | 10:26 |
| Symmetria | lol dont curse me saying things like that :p | 10:27 |
| Symmetria | kids would really screw up my life | 10:27 |
| Kilos | at the moment yes but later | 10:27 |
| Kilos | when its time to die and theres no one to leave anything to you will wonder what was is all about | 10:28 |
| Kilos | rather die happy | 10:28 |
| Kilos | kids are a pain until you have your own. ask the fly and pro | 10:28 |
| Symmetria | heh, I gotta find someone worthy of having kids with first :p | 10:29 |
| Kilos | then they a bigger pain till you my age then you wish you had more and spent more time with them | 10:29 |
| Kilos | i think expand but go it gradually | 10:30 |
| Kilos | or buy out other companies | 10:30 |
| Symmetria | kilos well, thats part of what Im thinking | 10:38 |
| Symmetria | thinking about buying out the consultancy/networking division of another company | 10:38 |
| Symmetria | which would help eliminate part of my competition, give me more staff members and get my hands on their client base | 10:38 |
| Kilos | good just remember then theres more responsibility | 10:38 |
| Symmetria | heh yes of course, its not something I'd do likely anyway, because a buyout like that costs *huge* amounts of money | 10:39 |
| Kilos | and sometimes peeps that just attend for the pay at month end | 10:39 |
| Symmetria | and I'd have to leverage the buyout | 10:39 |
| Symmetria | heh, oh, I'd be very careful who I bought, it would be someone who had staff I knew I could trust | 10:39 |
| Kilos | at the moment you only got yourself to trust | 10:39 |
| Kilos | dont rush into anything but give it a good gander from all angles | 10:40 |
| Kilos | might be worthwhile | 10:40 |
| Symmetria | hrm, to buy a 60" tv or not :p | 11:08 |
| charlvn | Symmetria: you remind me of this fellow: http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/264/200/acb.jpg :) | 11:17 |
| Symmetria | heh | 11:27 |
| Symmetria | Im thinking actually a 51" samsung e8000 | 11:27 |
| Symmetria | looks nice | 11:27 |
| Kilos | you havent got a tv? | 11:48 |
| Kilos | hi charlvn | 11:49 |
| Kilos | wbb | 12:04 |
| inetpro | hmm... | 13:31 |
| * inetpro wonders what KilosM and magtie have in common | 13:31 | |
| KilosM | wat hmmm jy boetie | 13:31 |
| KilosM | hehe | 13:31 |
| inetpro | both joining at the same time | 13:32 |
| inetpro | wb KilosM, magtie | 13:32 |
| KilosM | ty goosie | 13:32 |
| KilosM | i dunno what was wrong with my maverick drive | 13:32 |
| KilosM | put in old pc and it boots fine | 13:32 |
| inetpro | KilosM: check the logs | 13:32 |
| inetpro | /var/log/syslog | 13:33 |
| KilosM | on other pc the bios said not bootdrive found | 13:33 |
| KilosM | sudo: /var/log/syslog: command not found | 13:34 |
| KilosM | maybe my ide cables getting tired of in and aout all the time | 13:35 |
| nlsthzn | bios settings correct? | 13:35 |
| KilosM | it worked yesterday till the power cut nlsthzn hi there | 13:36 |
| KilosM | wouldnt boot this morning | 13:36 |
| KilosM | please install boot media | 13:36 |
| nlsthzn | Hi uncle KilosM ... odd, something got hurt, PC boots from another drive? | 13:36 |
| KilosM | weird | 13:36 |
| KilosM | yeah i have 12.01 on a 6g drive as well here | 13:37 |
| KilosM | there i mean | 13:37 |
| KilosM | maybe drive and cable pulling an apartheid stunt on me | 13:37 |
| KilosM | im very happy though. got a 40g partition on here that has everything saved on it | 13:40 |
| * KilosM loves maverick | 13:45 | |
| KilosM | breaking up is hard to do | 13:45 |
| inetpro | KilosM: since when did you learn about a log file being a command? | 14:19 |
| KilosM | thats what it told me man | 14:20 |
| inetpro | ai | 14:20 |
| KilosM | said i have permission so ran with sudo | 14:20 |
| inetpro | you look at a log file with less | 14:20 |
| inetpro | less /var/log/syslog | 14:20 |
| KilosM | i ran it as you gave it and it said i dont have permission | 14:20 |
| inetpro | I was just to lazy to give that to you like that | 14:21 |
| KilosM | oh less | 14:21 |
| KilosM | eish | 14:21 |
| KilosM | ou man | 14:21 |
| KilosM | how must i smell that | 14:21 |
| inetpro | or | 14:21 |
| inetpro | tail -100 /var/log/syslog | 14:21 |
| inetpro | to see the last 100 lines | 14:21 |
| KilosM | oh ya i member tail | 14:21 |
| inetpro | or head to view the top | 14:22 |
| KilosM | how can it show that info if the bios couldnt see the drive | 14:23 |
| KilosM | ? | 14:23 |
| inetpro | KilosM: no it won't | 14:25 |
| inetpro | but maybe it will give a clue from prior sessions | 14:26 |
| KilosM | ai | 14:26 |
| KilosM | whew | 14:26 |
| inetpro | bios is outside the control of the OS | 14:26 |
| KilosM | the drive is working mine on this pc | 14:26 |
| KilosM | like nothing ever happened | 14:26 |
| KilosM | will invetigate the ide cable | 14:26 |
| KilosM | investigate as well | 14:27 |
| KilosM | maybe just maybe ill install 12.04 but not delete home partition | 14:29 |
| nlsthzn | 12.04 is good | 14:32 |
| * nlsthzn normally opens all files to view in nano... just in case editing my be needed :p | 14:32 | |
| * nlsthzn recently learned about the -w option that apparently will stop config files from being nuked using nano... | 14:33 | |
| KilosM | lol | 14:35 |
| nlsthzn | :) I also learned about the different ways of removing software using apt-get... so now I have re-installed gwibber and I don't have to set it up again... Thanks to Ubuntu Unleashed 12.04 edition :p | 14:43 |
| bakuman | O_O | 14:52 |
| charlvn | phew hectic day | 14:56 |
| charlvn | Maaz: coffee on | 14:56 |
| * Maaz starts grinding coffee | 14:56 | |
| charlvn | need my caffiene fix! | 14:57 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for charlvn! | 15:00 |
| charlvn | Maaz: thanks | 15:01 |
| Maaz | charlvn: No problem | 15:01 |
| charlvn | how's it going with the twitter api modifications to ibid? | 15:01 |
| inetpro | charlvn: hi | 15:05 |
| charlvn | hi inetpro | 15:06 |
| * inetpro thought that charlvn would build the fix for ibid | 15:06 | |
| charlvn | lol | 15:06 |
| charlvn | how did i automatically volunteer :) | 15:06 |
| charlvn | quite frankly, i probably would have done it, if i still used twitter ;) | 15:06 |
| inetpro | hmm... | 15:06 |
| charlvn | stopped using twitter entirely about 18 months ago after gradually tiring of it | 15:06 |
| charlvn | that set aside, i am genuinely looking for a winter project to work on | 15:08 |
| charlvn | although, i would be insistent that it is completely based on open source / standards-based technologies | 15:08 |
| inetpro | charlvn: what's a winter project? Does that mean like after hours? | 15:10 |
| charlvn | yeah an open source project to work on in my free time | 15:10 |
| charlvn | in europe it's quite cold in the winter so we don't go out much :) | 15:10 |
| * superfly does that all the time | 15:10 | |
| charlvn | most of the good hacking happens in the winter, like the chaos communication congress in hamburg | 15:11 |
| charlvn | the tickets are not cheap though, 100 to 120 euro per person :/ | 15:12 |
| inetpro | superfly has a permanent winter project | 15:13 |
| charlvn | children are a long term, high investment project :) | 15:14 |
| charlvn | *having children is | 15:14 |
| charlvn | but it pays off! | 15:15 |
| charlvn | home time, bbl | 15:21 |
| inetpro | superfly: I don't think he got that | 15:22 |
| superfly | inetpro: not at all. | 15:23 |
| superfly | inetpro: not unexpected | 15:23 |
| inetpro | :-) | 15:23 |
| superfly | i've found that people who think they are awesome struggle to comprehend that there are people out there that are even more awesome | 15:25 |
| inetpro | lol | 15:26 |
| KilosM | ha ha ha | 15:26 |
| superfly | disclaimer: i am not awesome, so I could be wrong. | 15:26 |
| inetpro | superfly: you are way to humble to be awesome | 15:27 |
| superfly | inetpro: thank you (I think) | 15:28 |
| superfly | phew, my station next, can't wait to get off this hot train | 15:29 |
| * inetpro not looking forward to another evening without power at home | 15:30 | |
| KilosM | ai wassup inetpro | 15:31 |
| inetpro | KilosM: fire supply damaged 132kv conductor near Klerksoord, wherever that may be | 15:31 |
| KilosM | wheres the power | 15:31 |
| KilosM | far from you | 15:31 |
| inetpro | I noticed a few dips at 14:25 | 15:31 |
| KilosM | near jowies | 15:32 |
| inetpro | and wife called shortly after | 15:32 |
| KilosM | eish | 15:32 |
| KilosM | charge you fones battery before you go home | 15:32 |
| inetpro | phone is fine for now, didn't use it much today | 15:33 |
| inetpro | tweet by CityTshwane at 4:42: It is estimated that the supply will be stored by midnight. | 15:36 |
| KilosM | sjoe | 15:36 |
| KilosM | they tweet too | 15:36 |
| inetpro | yep, they starting to wake up | 15:37 |
| inetpro | and then... ... Bon Accord line; Pretoria North; Wolmer; SP line; Theresa Park; Tileba & parts of BVN & BVS lines. | 15:37 |
| KilosM | ai | 15:37 |
| * inetpro would have tweeted if I had battery power on me phone on Saturday | 15:38 | |
| Symmetria | lol wtf | 15:41 |
| Symmetria | tv's have come a LONG way since the days of old crt screens | 15:41 |
| Symmetria | I turned on my new tv, the first thing it did was get a DHCP address off the wireless and start downloading a firmware update | 15:41 |
| Symmetria | :p | 15:41 |
| inetpro | Symmetria: nice! What did you get? | 15:43 |
| Symmetria | samsung E8000 | 15:44 |
| inetpro | what's that, series 5? | 15:45 |
| Symmetria | no, its a series 8 | 15:49 |
| Symmetria | their top of the line | 15:49 |
| inetpro | Symmetria: price? | 15:55 |
| Symmetria | heh, you dont wanna know :p | 15:58 |
| drubin | KilosM: ;) | 16:04 |
| KilosM | hi drubin hows things | 16:04 |
| drubin | Good and you? | 16:04 |
| KilosM | good ty | 16:05 |
| KilosM | why you neglect us so | 16:05 |
| drubin | justy busy i guess | 16:06 |
| drubin | things change... | 16:06 |
| KilosM | whew | 16:06 |
| superfly | hiya drubin! | 16:15 |
| inetpro | wb drubin | 16:17 |
| KilosM | eish gone again | 16:21 |
| drubin | superfly: :) thanks | 16:22 |
| drubin | inetpro: I never went any where | 16:23 |
| inetpro | lol | 16:23 |
| inetpro | KilosM: ^^ | 16:23 |
| KilosM | oh you grayed out so looks like you away | 16:23 |
| KilosM | you cheating | 16:24 |
| Squirm | good evening | 16:54 |
| charlvn | good evening | 17:24 |
| charlvn | just saw a terrible prank: http://youtu.be/NeXMxuNNlE8 | 17:24 |
| KilosM | hiya charly | 17:47 |
| Hodgestar | Does anyone here actually use Unity? | 18:00 |
| Hodgestar | I mean like on a daily basis? | 18:00 |
| Hodgestar | There are *so* many rendering bugs. | 18:02 |
| Hodgestar | Let me try take a screenshot. | 18:02 |
| Hodgestar | tumbleweed: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=k67pe&s=6 (see top left). | 18:05 |
| KilosM | im using it and kde Hodgestar | 18:06 |
| KilosM | oh 12.10 | 18:06 |
| KilosM | not yet | 18:06 |
| charlvn | hi KilosM | 18:06 |
| Hodgestar | I've yet to encounter a version of Unity that doesn't die and crash and screw up the screen on a regular basis. :) | 18:07 |
| Hodgestar | Maybe it's just me. :) | 18:07 |
| charlvn | Hodgestar: i use a VM at work which at this point is running only unity | 18:07 |
| charlvn | i get a few problems but not that many in 12.10 | 18:07 |
| Hodgestar | VM hardly counts (unless you actually use the VM UI constantly, which seems like a weird thing to do). | 18:07 |
| charlvn | but previously i had a lot of problems, i still sometimes get bad performance though | 18:07 |
| KilosM | lol | 18:07 |
| Hodgestar | I'm on 12.10. | 18:08 |
| tumbleweed | Hodgestar: file a bug | 18:08 |
| KilosM | my 12.04 is running well | 18:08 |
| charlvn | Hodgestar: i use a VM a large portion of the day so i think it very much counts | 18:08 |
| Hodgestar | tumbleweed: I don't have time to file and track this many bugs. | 18:08 |
| charlvn | as a desktop i mean, full gui mode | 18:08 |
| tumbleweed | Hodgestar: :) | 18:08 |
| Hodgestar | tumbleweed: I need to file, like, 30. | 18:08 |
| tumbleweed | good that you aren't a fire-and-forget bug-report. I fear that I am | 18:08 |
| tumbleweed | *bug-reporter | 18:09 |
| Hodgestar | Well, I would sort of like them to go somewhere. :) | 18:09 |
| Hodgestar | Also, I'm not really sure where in the rendering chain to file the bug against. | 18:09 |
| tumbleweed | file against unity, they'll reassign as appropriate | 18:09 |
| Hodgestar | Although having the "Type your command" window stuck permanently over everything seems likely to be unity itself. :) | 18:09 |
| charlvn | it's probably better to file too many reports than not to file any reports at all, if nobody files reports then the issues don't get fixed | 18:10 |
| charlvn | as a developer myself i would rather get too many reports than too little | 18:10 |
| charlvn | problem is, most people don't take the time to report issues | 18:10 |
| tumbleweed | on the other hand, hundreds of open reports, where the reporter has long since vanished and doesn't use the app any more, suck | 18:11 |
| tumbleweed | but yes, err on the side of filing | 18:11 |
| charlvn | that is also true, but imho, still the lesser of two evils | 18:11 |
| charlvn | and besides, issues are easy enough to close if they can't be reproduced | 18:11 |
| tumbleweed | Hodgestar: there's certanily nothing I can do, with respect to embarrassing people / whatever, without a bug number | 18:11 |
| tumbleweed | charlvn: easy enough, but practically, one doesn't like to | 18:11 |
| * Hodgestar tries Gnome shell. | 18:12 | |
| charlvn | tumbleweed: maybe i'm just too easy on these things but if i can't reproduce a bug and i don't get replies from the reporter i close bugs quite easily | 18:12 |
| Hodgestar | Bug reports are only really useful if there are few existing bug reports or if they pin point the problem. | 18:12 |
| Hodgestar | Piles of bug reports saying "something broken and I'm not quite sure what" aren't particularly useful. | 18:13 |
| charlvn | that's true but if you don't even know there is a problem you can't go to search for them either | 18:13 |
| Hodgestar | Anyway, I can't really wait 3 months. :) | 18:13 |
| charlvn | well not like there is any shortage of desktop environments for linux :) | 18:13 |
| Hodgestar | Hehe. Yes. | 18:14 |
| Hodgestar | Although cinnamon broke on me too. | 18:15 |
| charlvn | haven't used it for too long, but i find gnome3 to be rather buggy too | 18:15 |
| charlvn | i constantly get error messages for various random things i don't understand | 18:15 |
| Symmetria | omfg | 18:15 |
| Symmetria | has anyone actually used a 3d large screen tv | 18:15 |
| Symmetria | with 3d glasses | 18:16 |
| Hodgestar | I have Awesome as a fallback but I'm trying to get out of the miminum-functionality window manager closet. | 18:16 |
| charlvn | kde4 seems to have stabilised a lot though | 18:16 |
| Hodgestar | Symmetria: Yes. It was okay. :) | 18:16 |
| Symmetria | Hodgestar thats a bit... it screws with your head :P | 18:16 |
| Symmetria | I was testing it with a bluray | 18:16 |
| Symmetria | of ice age | 18:16 |
| Symmetria | heh on my new toy :p | 18:16 |
| Hodgestar | charlvn: I haven't tried the kde window manager recently. | 18:16 |
| Symmetria | also tested putting the tv into 2d -> 3d conversion mode | 18:16 |
| Symmetria | and lol, the football looks kinda cool | 18:17 |
| Symmetria | but your brain takes a while to get used to it | 18:17 |
| Hodgestar | Back shortly. | 18:17 |
| charlvn | yeah, personally i am not a big fan of 3d, i have seen a bunch of 3d movies in the theater but never on a tv | 18:18 |
| charlvn | i will just stick to 2d for now :) | 18:18 |
| Symmetria | charlvn lol, I just had to test it :P | 18:18 |
| Symmetria | Im thinking 3D porn would be interesting hahahahahah | 18:18 |
| charlvn | oh no :D | 18:19 |
| charlvn | not even going there | 18:19 |
| Symmetria | they gave me 3 free 3d blurays with my tv | 18:19 |
| Symmetria | ice age thor and captain america | 18:19 |
| charlvn | ooh, captain america... :D | 18:20 |
| charlvn | the former two i rather liked but the last i am not so sure about ;) | 18:20 |
| charlvn | too much "america" in that film for me :D | 18:20 |
| smileE17 | hi :) | 18:26 |
| * inetpro back online | 18:29 | |
| inetpro | good evening | 18:29 |
| smileE17 | good evening :p | 18:29 |
| smileE17 | i'm leaving | 18:30 |
| smileE17 | good night | 18:30 |
| smileE17 | :) | 18:30 |
| inetpro | hmm... | 18:30 |
| inetpro | good night smileE17 | 18:30 |
| smileE17 | bye :) | 18:31 |
| smileE17 | thanks | 18:31 |
| Hodgestar | Back in Gnome Shell. | 18:33 |
| KilosM | power on inetpro | 18:34 |
| KilosM | the news said should be done by midnight | 18:34 |
| inetpro | KilosM: yes power is up again | 18:38 |
| KilosM | yay | 18:38 |
| KilosM | just in time for me to say night | 18:38 |
| KilosM | help Hodgestar hes having big probs with unity | 18:39 |
| KilosM | night guys. sleep tight | 18:39 |
| KilosM | see ya morrow | 18:39 |
| inetpro | KilosM: sleep well | 18:40 |
| KilosM | \ty you too | 18:40 |
| Symmetria | heh, sweet, tv plays youtube just fine | 18:44 |
| Symmetria | and they have angry birds on my tv!!!! | 18:45 |
| charlvn | lol | 18:52 |
| Symmetria | heh, even more of a way to screw with your mind | 18:54 |
| Symmetria | take world of warcraft, stick it on the tv, tell the tv to make 2d into 3d | 18:54 |
| Symmetria | and play it with 3d glasses | 18:54 |
| Symmetria | .......... | 18:54 |
| Symmetria | like, wow | 18:54 |
| Hodgestar | Gnome Shell is surprisingly good so far. | 19:13 |
| Kilos | inetpro, where is the catch | 19:25 |
| Kilos | https://www.vodacom.mobi/mobile/main/lte | 19:25 |
| inetpro | Kilos: with? | 19:25 |
| Kilos | sister just came to me with that link on her fone | 19:25 |
| inetpro | Kilos: there's only a very few towers in JHB with LTE at this stage | 19:26 |
| Kilos | oh ok ty | 19:26 |
| inetpro | to early to go LTE | 19:26 |
| Kilos | why the fools advertise it country wide then | 19:26 |
| Kilos | grrr | 19:26 |
| inetpro | because they want your money | 19:27 |
| Kilos | haha | 19:27 |
| Kilos | swines | 19:27 |
| Kilos | and i got a jippoed foreign alcatel mode anyway | 19:28 |
| Kilos | grrr | 19:28 |
| inetpro | on the one hand it's a good thing that they're pushing it, but I think a lot of peeps will be very disappointed when they realise they can not use it | 19:28 |
| Kilos | yeah | 19:29 |
| inetpro | but our data pricing is way to high anyway | 19:29 |
| inetpro | and LTE will make things worse | 19:29 |
| Kilos | put my maverick back in nuvo's p4 and it says boot failure now | 19:29 |
| inetpro | the faster the connection the faster the money flows outa your pocket | 19:29 |
| Kilos | grrr | 19:29 |
| Kilos | insert system disk and hit enter | 19:30 |
| inetpro | hmm... sounds like something other than the disk | 19:30 |
| inetpro | how about connector cables? | 19:31 |
| charlvn | nn all | 19:31 |
| inetpro | or motherboard | 19:31 |
| Kilos | im using the same one that i was on just noe with old pc | 19:31 |
| Kilos | ouch dont say mb | 19:31 |
| Kilos | gonna try sister 20g maverick there | 19:32 |
| inetpro | or the bios even | 19:32 |
| Kilos | boots perfect from her drive | 19:38 |
| Kilos | now i can boot into my maverick as the second drive | 19:41 |
| Kilos | grrr | 19:41 |
| Kilos | these things are sent to test us | 19:42 |
| Kilos | now ill be able to sleep at least | 19:42 |
| Kilos | sleep tight guys | 19:42 |
| Kilos | ty for the moral support | 19:42 |
| Symmetria | heh man the number of devices that use ip addresses in an average house seems to grow every day | 20:29 |
| Symmetria | I was just counting and its gone a long way from the pc and the router | 20:30 |
| Symmetria | I mean, my tv, my blu-ray player, my amplifier, my phone, my ipad, 2 ipads belonging to others in the house, 2 more phones as well, the tv upstairs | 20:30 |
| Symmetria | heh, add the wifi network and the pcs etc, Im using like, 22 ips | 20:31 |
| Squirm | Symmetria: you're a special case though :P | 21:38 |
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