[00:02] <magtie> Hi   hallo     is anybody alive around here?
[04:53] <Kilos> morning superfly and others
[05:17]  * Kilos got a story to tell
[05:18] <Kilos> tried to configure nvidia-config with nvidia-current installed
[05:19] <Kilos> screen went down to 640x480 again and couldnt get it back up
[05:19] <Kilos> purged nvidia-current--no change
[05:20] <Kilos> installed nvidia prop driver 173 which was the recommended one and it configured and everything back to normal and pc seems a bit faster
[05:22] <Kilos> was about to clean install again like last 2 times i tried to do nvidia-config
[05:22] <Kilos> so , happiness is not needing to
[05:26] <inetpro> pragtig Kilos!
[05:26] <inetpro> goeie more
[05:27] <Kilos> môre inetpro 
[05:27] <Kilos> jy is lekker vroeg
[05:27] <Kilos> bed nat gemaak?
[05:37] <Kilos> canonical has a plan. after reading up on the improvements in 12.10, one doesnt want to stay on 12.04 anymore
[05:39] <inetpro> Kilos: there's method in the madness?
[05:40] <Kilos> lol
[05:40] <inetpro> obviously!
[05:40] <Kilos> yeah
[05:40] <Kilos> they want us to grow along with them
[05:41] <Kilos> if it wasnt for 11.04 and 11.10 i would have
[05:52] <Kilos> lo Ludo 
[06:02] <Kilos> morning Tonberry 
[06:02] <Tonberry> hallo
[06:04] <superfly> hiya Kilos, Tonberry, inetpro
[06:18] <Kilos> what kinda terminals are UXTerm and XTerm?
[06:19] <Kilos> morning SmilyBorg 
[06:19] <SmilyBorg> Hey there Kilos
[06:20] <superfly> Kilos: older versions of Gnome Terminal and Konsole
[06:20] <superfly> morning SmilyBorg
[06:20] <SmilyBorg> hey Superfly
[06:21] <Kilos> when i type term in dash it shows them too. does one use them for special purposes ?
[06:21] <Kilos> or are they basically the same thing?
[06:22] <superfly> Kilos: basically the same thing
[06:22] <Kilos> ty superfly 
[06:23] <superfly> Kilos: I've used them on other desktop environments, but they don't have as many features as Konsole
[06:23] <Kilos> aha ty sir
[06:29] <Kilos> morning magtie 
[06:29] <Kilos> welcome to ubuntu-za
[06:29] <Kilos> ons praat die taal ook hier
[06:30] <Kilos> nice to see another lady joining
[06:32] <magtie> Hi Kilos & everyone
[06:32] <magtie> I'm back after about 5 years - practically brand new!
[06:33] <superfly> magtie: I was going to say your nick looked somewhat familiar
[06:33] <Kilos> if you need help magtie just state what you need and someone will help you as soon as they get a break
[06:33] <Kilos> wow welcome back then
[06:33] <inetpro> magtie: wb
[06:33]  * inetpro remembers seeing magtie here before
[06:34] <magtie> thanks   I am not yet into stupid questions yet....
[06:34] <Kilos> haha thats my field
[06:36] <magtie> got my irc working last night & was amazed to find no one here - then I realized its 2 in the morning
[06:36] <magtie> 'Normal'  people were sleeping.
[06:37] <Kilos> lol
[06:37] <superfly> That would be me. :-P
[06:37] <SmilyBorg> even some of us not so normal people were sleeping too. Welcome magtie
[06:42] <Kilos> hiya maiatoday 
[06:43] <maiatoday> hi Kilos
[06:59] <Squirm> morning
[07:01] <Kilos> hi Squirm 
[07:32] <Vince-0> Whoot! It's only Wednesday
[07:32] <Kilos> hi Vince-0 
[07:32] <Vince-0> Hey Kilos
[07:39] <superfly> ohi Vince-0
[07:40] <Kilos> magtie, most of us werent here 5 years ago. tell us about yourself
[07:41] <Kilos> what you do? wwhere you are etc
[07:41] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[07:41]  * Maaz flips the salt-timer
[07:41] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee for all
[07:41] <Maaz> Come on ya buncha geeks. Rock up with your mugs with the correct amount of sugar added already
[07:42] <Kilos> cold here in PTA today
[07:45] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[07:45] <Kilos> Maaz, thanks man
[07:45] <Maaz> Kilos It gives me great pleasure to serve a bunch of geeks :-)
[07:49] <Vince-0> Maaz, make me a sandwich and deliver to La Lucia office park
[07:49] <Maaz> Vince-0: Excuse me?
[07:49] <Vince-0> Maaz, you heard me now get in that kitchen
[07:49] <Maaz> Vince-0: Excuse me?
[07:49] <Kilos> hehe
[07:49] <Vince-0> ha
[07:50] <Vince-0> Maaz, are you female?
[07:50] <Maaz> Come on, be realistic. I'm a Bot
[07:50] <Vince-0> Maaz, I kid, I kid
[07:50] <Maaz> Vince-0: Sorry...
[07:50] <Kilos> lol
[08:03] <magtie> Kilos  I am working for the SACAA  keeping license records & producing ATC Licenses on MS Access
[08:04] <magtie> otherwise I'm on leave & playing on Ubuntu
[08:04] <Kilos> where?
[08:04] <Kilos> city wise i me
[08:04] <magtie> Civil Aviation Authority,   Midrand
[08:04] <Kilos> mean
[08:05] <magtie> I live in Pretoria'
[08:05] <Kilos> ah me too. there is a release party this weekend
[08:06] <magtie> Ya in Centurion - am thinking about it
[08:07] <Kilos> us valies are becoming more at last
[08:08] <Kilos> lotsa cape peeps here
[08:09] <magtie> I just looked at the new office files & it looks very good
[08:10] <magtie> anybody her who knows everything about the database?
[08:12] <magtie> looks like I should be able to import Access into LibreOfficeBase
[08:17] <Kerbero> do you write sql queries to do the things you do?
[08:17] <Kerbero> or do you use access's forms
[08:42] <magtie> Kerbero:   I do use queries & macros & code
[08:44] <magtie> At the moment I will only be interested in importing the tables
[08:44] <magtie> I am still trying to simply create a table
[08:46] <Kerbero> i would go with something decent like mysql or postgresql
[08:46] <Kerbero> for mysql you get phpmyadmin which is a nice webfrontend to manage it
[08:46] <Kerbero> but you'll have to code sql queries for the most things
[08:47] <Kerbero> or python/php scripts that will basically function as macros that will run the queries
[08:47] <magtie> Hay,  that might really be better as Access is based on sql
[08:48] <Kerbero> just export all your data to .csv files
[08:48] <Kerbero> and import it to mysql with phpmyadmin
[08:49] <magtie> Kerbero: thanks I will definitely look into it
[08:56] <Squirm> hi
[08:56] <Squirm> again
[08:56] <Kilos> hehe
[09:26] <drussell> Kilos: the problem is not just for people that download....
[09:26] <drussell> Kilos: wrt space
[09:27] <drussell> Kilos: it's actually about how much bandwidth our mirrors use
[09:27] <Kilos> oh ty drussell was just an idea
[09:27] <drussell> Kilos: each time the size increases, we have major conversations with the mirrors that are distributing the iso files
[09:27] <Kilos> hows things there?
[09:28] <drussell> Kilos: because they're big files, mirrors are happier with smaller files/updates
[09:28] <drussell> Kilos: good thanks :o)
[09:28] <Kilos> and what about on the official dvd's drussell 
[09:29] <drussell> Kilos: same deal
[09:29] <Kilos> ah ty for coming back to me
[09:29] <Kilos> see inetpro it works on #ubuntu-za too
[09:29] <Kilos> we got fingers in lotsa pies
[09:31] <Kilos> sometimes even the crash kid has a comment or two
[09:31] <Kilos> just drubin be scarce
[09:31] <Kilos> and corrie is a write off here it seems
[09:32] <Kilos> magespawn, are you lurking or is this your quassel core lurking for you
[09:42] <charlvn> good morning
[09:42] <charlvn> Maaz: coffee on
[09:42]  * Maaz flips the salt-timer
[09:46] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charlvn!
[10:10] <Kilos> my magtie all gone
[10:14]  * Kilos cries. maverick drive has crashed
[10:14] <Kilos> weeee
[10:16] <Symmetria> hrm
[10:17] <Symmetria> heh, comes to a point in every consultants life where he has to decide, stay private and independant, or expand the business drastically and throw caution to the wind 
[10:17] <Symmetria> ugh, I dont know what to do
[10:17] <Kilos> throw caution to the wind
[10:18] <Kilos> you can alsways get a job again if things dont work out
[10:18] <Kilos> always
[10:19] <Kilos> start worrying when you have to ride around in a 1975 beetle
[10:19] <zeref> hmmm
[10:19] <Kilos> hi zeref 
[10:19] <zeref> hi zeref 
[10:19] <zeref> o0o0
[10:19] <zeref> hi Kilos 
[10:20] <zeref> anybody used pygame
[10:24] <Symmetria> heh kilos oh, the money isnt the issue 
[10:24] <Symmetria> its the independance 
[10:24] <Symmetria> I have the investment money I need to do this, with a lot of change to spare, but ugh
[10:24] <Kilos> independance is good if you can
[10:25] <Symmetria> the question is, do I really need to make more money :P 
[10:25] <Kilos> yes you do if tire prices bother you
[10:25] <Symmetria> because I'm doing pretty damn well for myself right now, and Im asking myself, what am I really chasing expanding, if its money, then it makes no sense, if its building a legacy, that makes more sense 
[10:26] <Symmetria> heh kilos, you don't get to have the kinda cash Ive made without worrying about the small things and avoiding paying insane prices for things :p
[10:26] <Kilos> legacy is good. you might have kids to leave it too one day
[10:26] <Kilos> hehe im teasing you man
[10:27] <Symmetria> lol dont curse me saying things like that :p
[10:27] <Symmetria> kids would really screw up my life
[10:27] <Kilos> at the moment yes but later
[10:28] <Kilos> when its time to die and theres no one to leave anything to you will wonder what was is all about
[10:28] <Kilos> rather die happy
[10:28] <Kilos> kids are a pain until you have your own. ask the fly and pro
[10:29] <Symmetria> heh, I gotta find someone worthy of having kids with first :p
[10:29] <Kilos> then they a bigger pain till you my age then you wish you had more and spent more time with them
[10:30] <Kilos> i think expand but go it gradually
[10:30] <Kilos> or buy out other companies
[10:38] <Symmetria> kilos well, thats part of what Im thinking
[10:38] <Symmetria> thinking about buying out the consultancy/networking division of another company
[10:38] <Symmetria> which would help eliminate part of my competition, give me more staff members and get my hands on their client base
[10:38] <Kilos> good just remember then theres more responsibility
[10:39] <Symmetria> heh yes of course, its not something I'd do likely anyway, because a buyout like that costs *huge* amounts of money
[10:39] <Kilos> and sometimes peeps that just attend for the pay at month end
[10:39] <Symmetria> and I'd have to leverage the buyout 
[10:39] <Symmetria> heh, oh, I'd be very careful who I bought, it would be someone who had staff I knew I could trust 
[10:39] <Kilos> at the moment you only got yourself to trust
[10:40] <Kilos> dont rush into anything but give it a good gander from all angles
[10:40] <Kilos> might be worthwhile
[11:08] <Symmetria> hrm, to buy a 60" tv or not :p
[11:17] <charlvn> Symmetria: you remind me of this fellow: http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/264/200/acb.jpg :)
[11:27] <Symmetria> heh
[11:27] <Symmetria> Im thinking actually a 51" samsung e8000
[11:27] <Symmetria> looks nice
[11:48] <Kilos> you havent got a tv?
[11:49] <Kilos> hi charlvn 
[12:04] <Kilos> wbb
[13:31] <inetpro> hmm...
[13:31]  * inetpro wonders what KilosM and magtie have in common
[13:31] <KilosM> wat hmmm jy boetie
[13:31] <KilosM> hehe
[13:32] <inetpro> both joining at the same time
[13:32] <inetpro> wb KilosM, magtie
[13:32] <KilosM> ty goosie
[13:32] <KilosM> i dunno what was wrong with my maverick drive
[13:32] <KilosM> put in old pc and it boots fine
[13:32] <inetpro> KilosM: check the logs
[13:33] <inetpro> /var/log/syslog
[13:33] <KilosM> on other pc the bios said not bootdrive found
[13:34] <KilosM> sudo: /var/log/syslog: command not found
[13:35] <KilosM> maybe my ide cables getting tired of in and aout all the time
[13:35] <nlsthzn> bios settings correct?
[13:36] <KilosM> it worked yesterday till the power cut nlsthzn hi there
[13:36] <KilosM> wouldnt boot this morning
[13:36] <KilosM> please install boot media
[13:36] <nlsthzn> Hi uncle KilosM ... odd, something got hurt, PC boots from another drive?
[13:36] <KilosM> weird
[13:37] <KilosM> yeah i have 12.01 on a 6g drive as well here
[13:37] <KilosM> there i mean
[13:37] <KilosM> maybe drive and cable pulling an apartheid stunt on me
[13:40] <KilosM> im very happy though. got a 40g partition on here that has everything saved on it
[13:45]  * KilosM loves maverick
[13:45] <KilosM> breaking up is hard to do
[14:19] <inetpro> KilosM: since when did you learn about a log file being a command?
[14:20] <KilosM> thats what it told me man
[14:20] <inetpro> ai
[14:20] <KilosM> said i have permission so ran with sudo
[14:20] <inetpro> you look at a log file with less 
[14:20] <inetpro> less /var/log/syslog
[14:20] <KilosM> i ran it as you gave it and it said i dont have permission
[14:21] <inetpro> I was just to lazy to give that to you like that
[14:21] <KilosM> oh less
[14:21] <KilosM> eish
[14:21] <KilosM> ou man
[14:21] <KilosM> how must i smell that
[14:21] <inetpro> or 
[14:21] <inetpro> tail -100 /var/log/syslog 
[14:21] <inetpro> to see the last 100 lines
[14:21] <KilosM> oh ya i member tail
[14:22] <inetpro> or head to view the top
[14:23] <KilosM> how can it show that info if the bios couldnt see the drive
[14:23] <KilosM> ?
[14:25] <inetpro> KilosM: no it won't
[14:26] <inetpro> but maybe it will give a clue from prior sessions
[14:26] <KilosM> ai
[14:26] <KilosM> whew
[14:26] <inetpro> bios is outside the control of the OS
[14:26] <KilosM> the drive is working mine on this pc
[14:26] <KilosM> like nothing ever happened
[14:26] <KilosM> will invetigate the ide cable
[14:27] <KilosM> investigate as well
[14:29] <KilosM> maybe just maybe ill install 12.04 but not delete home partition
[14:32] <nlsthzn> 12.04 is good
[14:32]  * nlsthzn normally opens all files to view in nano... just in case editing my be needed :p
[14:33]  * nlsthzn recently learned about the -w option that apparently will stop config files from being nuked using nano...
[14:35] <KilosM> lol
[14:43] <nlsthzn> :) I also learned about the different ways of removing software using apt-get... so now I have re-installed gwibber and I don't have to set it up again... Thanks to Ubuntu Unleashed 12.04 edition :p
[14:52] <bakuman> O_O
[14:56] <charlvn> phew hectic day
[14:56] <charlvn> Maaz: coffee on
[14:56]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[14:57] <charlvn> need my caffiene fix!
[15:00] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charlvn!
[15:01] <charlvn> Maaz: thanks
[15:01] <Maaz> charlvn: No problem
[15:01] <charlvn> how's it going with the twitter api modifications to ibid?
[15:05] <inetpro> charlvn: hi
[15:06] <charlvn> hi inetpro 
[15:06]  * inetpro thought that charlvn would build the fix for ibid 
[15:06] <charlvn> lol
[15:06] <charlvn> how did i automatically volunteer :)
[15:06] <charlvn> quite frankly, i probably would have done it, if i still used twitter ;)
[15:06] <inetpro> hmm... 
[15:06] <charlvn> stopped using twitter entirely about 18 months ago after gradually tiring of it
[15:08] <charlvn> that set aside, i am genuinely looking for a winter project to work on
[15:08] <charlvn> although, i would be insistent that it is completely based on open source / standards-based technologies
[15:10] <inetpro> charlvn: what's a winter project? Does that mean like after hours?
[15:10] <charlvn> yeah an open source project to work on in my free time
[15:10] <charlvn> in europe it's quite cold in the winter so we don't go out much :)
[15:10]  * superfly does that all the time
[15:11] <charlvn> most of the good hacking happens in the winter, like the chaos communication congress in hamburg
[15:12] <charlvn> the tickets are not cheap though, 100 to 120 euro per person :/
[15:13] <inetpro> superfly has a permanent winter project
[15:14] <charlvn> children are a long term, high investment project :)
[15:14] <charlvn> *having children is
[15:15] <charlvn> but it pays off!
[15:21] <charlvn> home time, bbl
[15:22] <inetpro> superfly: I don't think he got that
[15:23] <superfly> inetpro: not at all.
[15:23] <superfly> inetpro: not unexpected
[15:23] <inetpro> :-)
[15:25] <superfly> i've found that people who think they are awesome struggle to comprehend that there are people out there that are even more awesome
[15:26] <inetpro> lol
[15:26] <KilosM> ha ha ha
[15:26] <superfly> disclaimer: i am not awesome, so I could be wrong.
[15:27] <inetpro> superfly: you are way to humble to be awesome 
[15:28] <superfly> inetpro: thank you (I think)
[15:29] <superfly> phew, my station next, can't wait to get off this hot train
[15:30]  * inetpro not looking forward to another evening without power at home
[15:31] <KilosM> ai wassup inetpro 
[15:31] <inetpro> KilosM: fire supply damaged 132kv conductor near Klerksoord, wherever that may be
[15:31] <KilosM> wheres the power
[15:31] <KilosM> far from you
[15:31] <inetpro> I noticed a few dips at 14:25
[15:32] <KilosM> near jowies
[15:32] <inetpro> and wife called shortly after
[15:32] <KilosM> eish
[15:32] <KilosM> charge you fones battery before you go home
[15:33] <inetpro> phone is fine for now, didn't use it much today
[15:36] <inetpro> tweet by CityTshwane at 4:42: It is estimated that the supply will be stored by midnight.
[15:36] <KilosM> sjoe
[15:36] <KilosM> they tweet too
[15:37] <inetpro> yep, they starting to wake up
[15:37] <inetpro> and then... ... Bon Accord line; Pretoria North; Wolmer; SP line; Theresa Park; Tileba & parts of BVN & BVS lines. 
[15:37] <KilosM> ai
[15:38]  * inetpro would have tweeted if I had battery power on me phone on Saturday
[15:41] <Symmetria> lol wtf
[15:41] <Symmetria> tv's have come a LONG way since the days of old crt screens
[15:41] <Symmetria> I turned on my new tv, the first thing it did was get a DHCP address off the wireless and start downloading a firmware update
[15:41] <Symmetria> :p
[15:43] <inetpro> Symmetria: nice! What did you get?
[15:44] <Symmetria> samsung E8000
[15:45] <inetpro> what's that, series 5?
[15:49] <Symmetria> no, its a series 8
[15:49] <Symmetria> their top of the line
[15:55] <inetpro> Symmetria: price?
[15:58] <Symmetria> heh, you dont wanna know :p
[16:04] <drubin> KilosM: ;)
[16:04] <KilosM> hi drubin hows things
[16:04] <drubin> Good and you?
[16:05] <KilosM> good ty
[16:05] <KilosM> why you neglect us so
[16:06] <drubin> justy busy i guess
[16:06] <drubin> things change... 
[16:06] <KilosM> whew
[16:15] <superfly> hiya drubin!
[16:17] <inetpro> wb drubin
[16:21] <KilosM> eish gone again
[16:22] <drubin> superfly: :) thanks
[16:23] <drubin> inetpro: I never went any where
[16:23] <inetpro> lol
[16:23] <inetpro> KilosM: ^^
[16:23] <KilosM> oh you grayed out so looks like you away
[16:24] <KilosM> you cheating
[16:54] <Squirm> good evening
[17:24] <charlvn> good evening
[17:24] <charlvn> just saw a terrible prank: http://youtu.be/NeXMxuNNlE8
[17:47] <KilosM> hiya charly
[18:00] <Hodgestar> Does anyone here actually use Unity?
[18:00] <Hodgestar> I mean like on a daily basis?
[18:02] <Hodgestar> There are *so* many rendering bugs.
[18:02] <Hodgestar> Let me try take a screenshot.
[18:05] <Hodgestar> tumbleweed: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=k67pe&s=6 (see top left).
[18:06] <KilosM> im using it and kde Hodgestar 
[18:06] <KilosM> oh 12.10
[18:06] <KilosM> not yet
[18:06] <charlvn> hi KilosM 
[18:07] <Hodgestar> I've yet to encounter a version of Unity that doesn't die and crash and screw up the screen on a regular basis. :)
[18:07] <Hodgestar> Maybe it's just me. :)
[18:07] <charlvn> Hodgestar: i use a VM at work which at this point is running only unity
[18:07] <charlvn> i get a few problems but not that many in 12.10
[18:07] <Hodgestar> VM hardly counts (unless you actually use the VM UI constantly, which seems like a weird thing to do).
[18:07] <charlvn> but previously i had a lot of problems, i still sometimes get bad performance though
[18:07] <KilosM> lol
[18:08] <Hodgestar> I'm on 12.10.
[18:08] <tumbleweed> Hodgestar: file a bug
[18:08] <KilosM> my 12.04 is running well
[18:08] <charlvn> Hodgestar: i use a VM a large portion of the day so i think it very much counts
[18:08] <Hodgestar> tumbleweed: I don't have time to file and track this many bugs.
[18:08] <charlvn> as a desktop i mean, full gui mode
[18:08] <tumbleweed> Hodgestar: :)
[18:08] <Hodgestar> tumbleweed: I need to file, like, 30.
[18:08] <tumbleweed> good that you aren't a fire-and-forget bug-report. I fear that I am
[18:09] <tumbleweed> *bug-reporter
[18:09] <Hodgestar> Well, I would sort of like them to go somewhere. :)
[18:09] <Hodgestar> Also, I'm not really sure where in the rendering chain to file the bug against.
[18:09] <tumbleweed> file against unity, they'll reassign as appropriate
[18:09] <Hodgestar> Although having the "Type your command" window stuck permanently over everything seems likely to be unity itself. :)
[18:10] <charlvn> it's probably better to file too many reports than not to file any reports at all, if nobody files reports then the issues don't get fixed
[18:10] <charlvn> as a developer myself i would rather get too many reports than too little
[18:10] <charlvn> problem is, most people don't take the time to report issues
[18:11] <tumbleweed> on the other hand, hundreds of open reports, where the reporter has long since vanished and doesn't use the app any more, suck
[18:11] <tumbleweed> but yes, err on the side of filing
[18:11] <charlvn> that is also true, but imho, still the lesser of two evils
[18:11] <charlvn> and besides, issues are easy enough to close if they can't be reproduced
[18:11] <tumbleweed> Hodgestar: there's certanily nothing I can do, with respect to embarrassing people / whatever, without a bug number
[18:11] <tumbleweed> charlvn: easy enough, but practically, one doesn't like to
[18:12]  * Hodgestar tries Gnome shell.
[18:12] <charlvn> tumbleweed: maybe i'm just too easy on these things but if i can't reproduce a bug and i don't get replies from the reporter i close bugs quite easily
[18:12] <Hodgestar> Bug reports are only really useful if there are few existing bug reports or if they pin point the problem.
[18:13] <Hodgestar> Piles of bug reports saying "something broken and I'm not quite sure what" aren't particularly useful.
[18:13] <charlvn> that's true but if you don't even know there is a problem you can't go to search for them either
[18:13] <Hodgestar> Anyway, I can't really wait 3 months. :)
[18:13] <charlvn> well not like there is any shortage of desktop environments for linux :)
[18:14] <Hodgestar> Hehe. Yes.
[18:15] <Hodgestar> Although cinnamon broke on me too.
[18:15] <charlvn> haven't used it for too long, but i find gnome3 to be rather buggy too
[18:15] <charlvn> i constantly get error messages for various random things i don't understand
[18:15] <Symmetria> omfg
[18:15] <Symmetria> has anyone actually used a 3d large screen tv
[18:16] <Symmetria> with 3d glasses
[18:16] <Hodgestar> I have Awesome as a fallback but I'm trying to get out of the miminum-functionality window manager closet.
[18:16] <charlvn> kde4 seems to have stabilised a lot though
[18:16] <Hodgestar> Symmetria: Yes. It was okay. :)
[18:16] <Symmetria> Hodgestar thats a bit... it screws with your head :P
[18:16] <Symmetria> I was testing it with a bluray 
[18:16] <Symmetria> of ice age
[18:16] <Symmetria> heh on my new toy :p
[18:16] <Hodgestar> charlvn: I haven't tried the kde window manager recently.
[18:16] <Symmetria> also tested putting the tv into 2d -> 3d conversion mode
[18:17] <Symmetria> and lol, the football looks kinda cool
[18:17] <Symmetria> but your brain takes a while to get used to it
[18:17] <Hodgestar> Back shortly.
[18:18] <charlvn> yeah, personally i am not a big fan of 3d, i have seen a bunch of 3d movies in the theater but never on a tv
[18:18] <charlvn> i will just stick to 2d for now :)
[18:18] <Symmetria> charlvn lol, I just had to test it :P 
[18:18] <Symmetria> Im thinking 3D porn would be interesting hahahahahah
[18:19] <charlvn> oh no :D
[18:19] <charlvn> not even going there
[18:19] <Symmetria> they gave me 3 free 3d blurays with my tv
[18:19] <Symmetria> ice age thor and captain america
[18:20] <charlvn> ooh, captain america... :D
[18:20] <charlvn> the former two i rather liked but the last i am not so sure about ;)
[18:20] <charlvn> too much "america" in that film for me :D
[18:26] <smileE17> hi :)
[18:29]  * inetpro back online
[18:29] <inetpro> good evening
[18:29] <smileE17> good evening :p
[18:30] <smileE17> i'm leaving
[18:30] <smileE17> good night
[18:30] <smileE17> :)
[18:30] <inetpro> hmm...
[18:30] <inetpro> good night smileE17
[18:31] <smileE17> bye :)
[18:31] <smileE17> thanks
[18:33] <Hodgestar> Back in Gnome Shell.
[18:34] <KilosM> power on inetpro 
[18:34] <KilosM> the news said should be done by midnight
[18:38] <inetpro> KilosM: yes power is up again
[18:38] <KilosM> yay
[18:38] <KilosM> just in time for me to say night
[18:39] <KilosM> help Hodgestar hes having big probs with unity
[18:39] <KilosM> night guys. sleep tight
[18:39] <KilosM> see ya morrow
[18:40] <inetpro> KilosM: sleep well
[18:40] <KilosM> \ty you too
[18:44] <Symmetria> heh, sweet, tv plays youtube just fine 
[18:45] <Symmetria> and they have angry birds on my tv!!!!
[18:52] <charlvn> lol
[18:54] <Symmetria> heh, even more of a way to screw with your mind
[18:54] <Symmetria> take world of warcraft, stick it on the tv, tell the tv to make 2d into 3d
[18:54] <Symmetria> and play it with 3d glasses
[18:54] <Symmetria> .......... 
[18:54] <Symmetria> like, wow
[19:13] <Hodgestar> Gnome Shell is surprisingly good so far.
[19:25] <Kilos> inetpro, where is the catch
[19:25] <Kilos> https://www.vodacom.mobi/mobile/main/lte
[19:25] <inetpro> Kilos: with?
[19:25] <Kilos> sister just came to me with that link on her fone
[19:26] <inetpro> Kilos: there's only a very few towers in JHB with LTE at this stage
[19:26] <Kilos> oh ok ty
[19:26] <inetpro> to early to go LTE
[19:26] <Kilos> why the fools advertise it country wide then
[19:26] <Kilos> grrr
[19:27] <inetpro> because they want your money
[19:27] <Kilos> haha
[19:27] <Kilos> swines
[19:28] <Kilos> and i got a jippoed foreign alcatel mode anyway
[19:28] <Kilos> grrr
[19:28] <inetpro> on the one hand it's a good thing that they're pushing it, but I think a lot of peeps will be very disappointed when they realise they can not use it
[19:29] <Kilos> yeah
[19:29] <inetpro> but our data pricing is way to high anyway
[19:29] <inetpro> and LTE will make things worse
[19:29] <Kilos> put my maverick back in nuvo's p4 and it says boot failure now
[19:29] <inetpro> the faster the connection the faster the money flows outa your pocket
[19:29] <Kilos> grrr
[19:30] <Kilos> insert system disk and hit enter
[19:30] <inetpro> hmm... sounds like something other than the disk
[19:31] <inetpro> how about connector cables?
[19:31] <charlvn> nn all
[19:31] <inetpro> or motherboard
[19:31] <Kilos> im using the same one that i was on just noe with old pc
[19:31] <Kilos> ouch dont say mb
[19:32] <Kilos> gonna try sister 20g maverick there
[19:32] <inetpro> or the bios even
[19:38] <Kilos> boots perfect from her drive
[19:41] <Kilos> now i can boot into my maverick as the second drive
[19:41] <Kilos> grrr
[19:42] <Kilos> these things are sent to test us
[19:42] <Kilos> now ill be able to sleep at least
[19:42] <Kilos> sleep tight guys
[19:42] <Kilos> ty for the moral support
[20:29] <Symmetria> heh man the number of devices that use ip addresses in an average house seems to grow every day
[20:30] <Symmetria> I was just counting and its gone a long way from the pc and the router
[20:30] <Symmetria> I mean, my tv, my blu-ray player, my amplifier, my phone, my ipad, 2 ipads belonging to others in the house, 2 more phones as well, the tv upstairs 
[20:31] <Symmetria> heh, add the wifi network and the pcs etc, Im using like, 22 ips 
[21:38] <Squirm> Symmetria: you're a special case though :P