[00:00] <min|dvir|us> lcabreza2: what about other connections, like SSH or IRC?
[00:00] <kimberly> daemonicApathy: okay i just wanted to make sure there's nothing I should do in gparted first thanks
[00:00] <Cong> lcabreza2, are you kidding?
[00:01] <lcabreza2> min|dvir|us: may concept is that when people are connected to wifi, it will get connected but when they open their browser it will redirect to a website which requires username and password before they can browse internet
[00:01] <kimberly> actually is there a way to use gparted though
[00:01] <RicCrouch> lcabreza: you mean like a "login page" for your wifi network?
[00:01] <wilee-nilee> kimberly, So what is your actual goal here getting back a windows 7 setup?
[00:02] <lcabreza2> RicCrouch: that's right ..
[00:02] <RicCrouch> Hmmm....
[00:02] <kimberly> wilee-nilee: yes, i have a reinstallation disk and all that shit
[00:02] <n2diy_> I upgraded my test box from 12.04 to 12.10, and now X doesn't display correctly, and the mouse isn't working. I can use command line in a console.
[00:02] <kimberly> but
[00:02] <TeruFSX2> What's the workaround for getting wxMaxima to show its menu bar in the window?
[00:02] <lcabreza2> RicCrouch: im planning to setup a wifi network at home and want my neighbors to pay for the service ..
[00:02] <TeruFSX2> i'm using KDESC and i don't have the unity menu
[00:02] <min|dvir|us> Cong: I don't think it's so ridiculous.
[00:02] <ahmad> hello everyone :)
[00:02] <Guest51616> 6/help
[00:02] <kimberly> just using that before did not work
[00:03] <TeruFSX2> kimberly: what went wrong while trying to install
[00:03] <Cong> min|dvir|us, I thought he wanted people to open a web browser before they even connected.
[00:03] <TeruFSX2> (win 7 that is)
[00:04] <Smackbook> how can I test and find out why ubuntu isn't recognizing my usb wifi adapter?  I got the drivers before and compiled them and installed them, and it was working fine until I unplugged it and now no amount of uninstalling/installing/unplugging/replugging/rebooting seems to make any difference.  any suggestions?
[00:05] <wilee-nilee> kimberly, Personally I don't allow windows to make a boot partition. So I just make a single ntfs with a boot flag with gparted then use the manual instal with the windows disc, sda1 is a boot partition and has the boot flag as of now and sda2 is the OS.
[00:06] <wilee-nilee> The boot partition is needed for the encryption in the ultimate version, and or if there is a recovery partition I use neither.
[00:06] <DaemonicApathy> lcabreza2: This might interest you - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZoneCD
[00:07] <lcabreza2> DaemonicApathy:i'll try this one ..
[00:12] <RicCrouch> Smackbook:  Had a similar problem with my wired adapter... does your wifi adapter show up when you run ifconfig from the terminal?
[00:12] <Smackbook> nope
[00:12] <Smackbook> RicCrouch: it did when it was working
[00:15] <planetary> I need help getting my computer out of a very low resolution. I cant find commands to change it
[00:15] <Noobuntu> any solutions for cpu overheating problems?
[00:15] <wols> Smackbook: what does dmesg say after you plugged in your usb wlan stick?
[00:15] <wols> planetary: what videocard do you have?
[00:15] <wols> Noobuntu: buy a better heatsink
[00:16] <Noobuntu> i have a dual boot system
[00:16] <lcabreza2> Noobuntu: buy Larkooler water cooling system
[00:16] <Noobuntu> windows 7 works fine
[00:16] <planetary> wols: I idnt remember, Im helping my uncle on the phone! :0
[00:16] <Noobuntu> but even when I am not doing any heavy operations my CPU heats up on Ubuntu
[00:17] <wols> planetary: then tell your uncle to install ssh, so you can log on to his PC and do it for him (imho)
[00:17] <wols> or tell him to come online himself
[00:17] <Noobuntu> its just a laptop I use for basic day to day tasks - nothing fancy
[00:17] <DaemonicApathy> Noobuntu: You should install and run htop to check out what might be overusing it.
[00:17] <wols> Noobuntu: if your CPU overheats, it's NOT a ubuntu problem. the same would happen under windows when you actually use your PC then
[00:17] <DaemonicApathy> Noobuntu: I would suggest the System Monitor, but that tends to be a little heavy itself.
[00:18] <Noobuntu> wols: I have never faced overheating issues on Windows
[00:18] <Noobuntu> in Ubuntu, it goes up to even 100 degrees
[00:18] <wilee-nilee> Noobuntu, I would at the least install the sensors from this wiki's instructions to confirm it is overheating rather then you assume this from the fans running, as you give no real details here.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[00:18] <wols> Noobuntu: optimus?
[00:19] <Noobuntu> wilee-nilee: reasons to believe its over heating: a) It feels really really hot
[00:19] <Noobuntu> b) Conky tells me the temperature is close to 100
[00:20] <Noobuntu> wols: sorry, didn't get your question..
[00:20] <TeruFSX2> how old is your machine?
[00:20] <Noobuntu> 1.5 years
[00:20] <TeruFSX2> i'm assuming it's pretty recent, yeah
[00:20] <TeruFSX2> what processor type?
[00:20] <Noobuntu> intel i3
[00:20] <wols> Noobuntu: does it use nvidia optimus?
[00:21] <Noobuntu> its an HP v6t machine
[00:21] <Noobuntu> no graphic cards
[00:21] <Cong> laptops aren't for gaming
[00:21] <Noobuntu> just the one that comes wiith the chip
[00:21] <Smackbook> wols: is there a way to clear dmesg output so I can tell where the new stuff starts?
[00:21] <Noobuntu> I don't use it for gaming
[00:21] <wols> Smackbook: no. and it's not needed either
[00:22] <Noobuntu> like I said, it heats up even when I am browsing
[00:22] <wols> Smackbook: the new stuff is added at the end
[00:22] <Smackbook> wols seems like pages and pages of stuff
[00:22] <Noobuntu> if I open up a few extra tabs
[00:22] <Smackbook> related to the usb wifi
[00:22] <wols> Smackbook: yes. those are logs and in your case most likely errors
[00:23] <alecb> what's the name of the applet that displays the volume control?
[00:23] <TeruFSX2> the dv6t does not have optimus
[00:24] <Smackbook> wols: http://pastebin.com/bV4uX1RE
[00:25] <trism> alecb: indicator-sound ?
[00:25] <trism> alecb: sort of depends which desktop you run
[00:25] <TeruFSX2> actually it does appear to have optimus-like technology
[00:26] <TeruFSX2> Noobuntu: the dv6t uses some gpu-swapping things that aren't supported that well right now
[00:26] <josy1982> ubuntu is the best distribution!
[00:27] <wols> Smackbook: most likely [59582.997871] wlan0: 00:1c:10:8a:87:e6 denied association (code=12)  WPA password correct?
[00:27] <snark> Smackbook, this command " dmesg | tails 5 "     gives the last 5 new lines from dmesg
[00:28] <Noobuntu> TeruFSX2: thank you for the information. Is there any way to make things a bit better maybe?
[00:28] <TeruFSX2> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics might give some tips, but i'm not sure if 3D acceleration works with this
[00:29] <wols> !powertop
[00:29] <snark> Smackbook, this command " dmesg | tail "    (this one is correct! )
[00:29] <alecb> trism: I'm referring to the one that runs in unity I guess. like I run nm-applet to get the network indicator as a tray icon in any wm with a tray app
[00:29] <wols> Noobuntu: use powertop as well
[00:29] <alecb> is there something I can run to get any of the other indicators
[00:29] <Noobuntu> thanks guys. Let me see if anything works for me
[00:30] <dr_willis> Theres a list of addaditonal indicator-applets at the askubuntu.com site.
[00:30] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/30334/what-application-indicators-are-available
[00:31] <trism> alecb: yeah most indicators don't work like that, indicator-sound loads when the panel starts
[00:40] <somsip> !test
[00:40] <martinette-> hello,
[00:41] <RicCrouch> I know that sometimes with Realtek cards you have to blacklist a driver that gets in the way--I think that is what this accomplishes
[00:41] <martinette-> i know it is a ubuntu channel...but can i talk in private with soneone who has good knowledge about it
[00:42] <RicCrouch> (oops.. wrong window! :)  )
[00:42] <dr_willis> about what martinette- ?
[00:44] <zymaster> Ok quick question. So I just installed Ubuntu. I have a 750g hard drive and wanted to give ubuntu 300g and windows 450g but due to the lack of info the Ubuntu installer gave I accidentally gave Ubuntu the 450g and windows the 300g. I am currently inside my ubuntu boot disk so I can mess with my partitions without using them. I am currently in gparted and I was able to shrink my file system down to what it is supposed to be, but now 
[00:44] <martinette-> well, last time I installed uuntu...I had to reinstall windows...due to some mistake i did...with GNU (i think its the name of the dual boot soft to boot either windows or ubuntu)
[00:44] <zymaster> unallocated space in the partition that has the swap and the file sytem within it
[00:44] <martinette-> my question is can i install ubuntu with out installing gnu....but but on windows or unbuntu if in plug my usb key
[00:45] <zymaster> I can not resize this partition even after i checked swapoff on the swap partition
[00:45] <dr_willis> zymaster:  if you have logical partions inside an extended partion. you may need to shrink them first.. then shrink the extended partition. then enlarge the primary
[00:45] <joeeeee> hey may i ask ?
[00:45] <dr_willis> zymaster:  i always just use primary partions. ;)
[00:45] <wilee-nilee> zymaster, Are you trying to resize a partiton yuou are booted into?
[00:45] <wilee-nilee> partition*
[00:45] <dr_willis> martinette-:  you mean with out installing the GRUB bootloader?
[00:46] <zymaster> dr_willis: I have 1.5g unallocated space in my exteded martition but I can't resize it to move the unallocated space out to the main hard drive so I can use it to resize windows
[00:46] <dr_willis> martinette-:  you can do a full install of ubuntu onto a decently sized usb flash drive. including GRUB on the MBR of the flash drive
[00:46] <zymaster> willee-nillee: I am booted into an ubuntu boot disk so I have no partitions mounted
[00:46] <dr_willis> zymaster:  i recall getting space out of a extended into a primary was doable. but tool like 2 to 3 steps.
[00:46] <wilee-nilee> zymaster, Sorry you addressed that already can you take a screen shot of gparted and imagebin it.
[00:47] <dr_willis> i always use primaries so its been ages since ive had to do this.
[00:47] <zymaster> wilee-nillee: forgot the screenshot shortcut what is it again?
[00:48] <wilee-nilee> zymaster, prtsc
[00:48] <wilee-nilee> the key
[00:48] <martinette-> yeah grub sorry
[00:49] <martinette-> just by setting my laptop boot sequence with ubs drive 1 and second hard drive
[00:50] <Klamir> Hello, im getting a error when installing gstream in ubuntu 12.10 > http://paste.ubuntu.com/1301577/ ... how can I verify if this packages are installed ? how can I install if necessary ?
[00:50] <zymaster> wilee-nilee: Ok GParted screenshot: http://imagebin.org/233030
[00:51] <trism> Klamir: libglib2.0-dev
[00:52] <t1ckt0ck> @Klamir apt-get install libglib2.0-dev
[00:52] <Klamir> Thx ! It worked !
[00:52] <wilee-nilee> zymaster, So you want the Windows partition bigger right?
[00:53] <zymaster> Yeah I want to make it bigger with the unallocated space in the extended partition
[00:53] <zymaster> Mainly just get the unallocated space to the primary hard drive
[00:53] <zymaster> thx by the way
[00:54] <snark> zymaster, your swap is inside the extended partioion so you could delete it
[00:54] <wilee-nilee> zymaster, No bigie it will take awhile though. YOU should of resized ubuntu to the roght, but you can m,ove the whole partition to the right with the resize button, then right click the extended in the menu and resize it up against the ubuntu partition the the unallocated will be next to the windows fro it to exspand into.
[00:55] <wilee-nilee> sorry for the spelling erors DOH.
[00:55] <goddard> i have a program I cant see
[00:55] <goddard> it is launched but it must be off the screen
[00:56] <martinette-> my question is can i install ubuntu with out installing gnu....but but on windows or unbuntu if in plug my usb key just by setting my laptop boot sequence with ubs drive 1 and second hard drive
[00:56] <wilee-nilee> zymaster, Just for information you could make a NTFS in that unallocated now and windows will see and and you can use it.
[00:57] <wilee-nilee> you could have that ntfs be a shared partition for media....etc
[00:58] <yeehi> Hello! I am installing calibre, the ebook manager - i need to specify an installation directory. What should I use?
[00:58] <DaemonicApathy> Is there any real benefit to NTFS over FAT?
[00:58] <zymaster> wilee-nilee: it wont allow me to resize extended partition. I can click resize but cant change the volume at all
[00:58] <snark> wilee-nilee, he want to expant the current windows partition
[00:58] <RicCrouch> Martinette--As mentioned above, I think you mean GRUB, not GNU.  And yes, you can.  Check this out:  http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/11/liveusb-install-not-just-another-live-usb-creator-for-linux
[00:58] <loadid> is there a default yeehi?
[00:58] <snark> wilee-nilee, he want to expand* the current windows partition
[00:58] <yeehi> i think ntfs is journaling, DaemonicApathy
[00:58] <yeehi> no default, loadid
[00:58] <yeehi> lets you go anywhere
[00:59] <martinette->  yes imeant grub
[00:59] <zymaster> snark: thx too
[00:59] <yeehi> where is the usual installation folder for new programs?
[00:59] <martinette-> thank you
[00:59] <wilee-nilee> zymaster, It is up against the ubuntu  on the left you have to move the ubuntu to the right, the whole partition at once.
[00:59] <loadid> yeehi: /bin
[00:59] <snark> DaemonicApathy, fie size limit on FAT
[00:59] <RicCrouch> Martinette-better yet, look here:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=811397
[00:59] <yeehi> thanks, loadid! i will specify /bin and hoep for the best!
[01:00] <DaemonicApathy> Ah, ofc snark. I knew I was forgetting something. Thanks.
[01:00] <loadid> yeehi, maybe a subdirectory in /bin
[01:00] <loadid> in case it's installing a lot of files
[01:00] <goddard> i have a program I cant see
[01:00] <goddard> it is launched but it must be off the screen
[01:00] <loadid> yeehi: maybe a subdirectory in your /home folder
[01:00] <wilee-nilee> snark, I know I am telling them how to get that unallocated next to windows in order to do this the ubuntu has to be moved against the swap then the extended up against the left end of the ubuntu.
[01:01] <PatrickDickey> goddard, you can click on the workspace switcher to see if it's in another workspace.
[01:01] <wilee-nilee> zymaster,YOU can move the ubuntu partition as a whole to the right.
[01:01] <goddard> PatrickDickey: it is not present when i click that icon
[01:01] <zymaster> wilee-nilee: what do you mean move to the right? Sorry didnt understand. And by Ubuntu do you mean the whole extended partition or the file system?
[01:01] <goddard> in gnome shell i can see all applications
[01:01] <t1ckt0ck> @goddard are you trying to find it or kill it?
[01:02] <goddard> t1ckt0ck: im trying to find it
[01:02] <PatrickDickey> goddard, open System Monitor and make sure it's actually running.
[01:02] <goddard> i think it is loaded off screen so i cant see it
[01:02] <goddard> PatrickDickey: it is
[01:02] <goddard> its netbeans
[01:02] <snark> zymaster, would you be up for deleting the ext4 partition?    much faster then
[01:03] <PatrickDickey> goddard, which version of ubuntu are you on?
[01:03] <wilee-nilee> zymaster, Click on the resize, you can move the whole sda5 to be up against the swap, then using the resize again on the extended move it up against the ubuntu.
[01:03] <goddard> 12.10
[01:03]  * PatrickDickey hasn't installed Netbeans yet, but I may just to see if I have this issue.
[01:03] <dem0n> how is everyone doing today...?
[01:03] <goddard> PatrickDickey: i have multiple displays
[01:04] <t1ckt0ck> @goddard have you tried simply killing the process and restarting it?
[01:04] <PatrickDickey> goddard, is it on any of them?
[01:04] <wilee-nilee> zymaster,Basically you are first moving tha unallocated to be in front of the sda5 then resizing the extended to be against the ubuntu then the unallocated will be next to the windows.
[01:04] <goddard> t1ckt0ck: i can see the program and close it and open it with the toolbar
[01:04] <goddard> PatrickDickey: no and i disconnect them and reconnect them and it doesn't work
[01:05] <t1ckt0ck> Just no gui...
[01:05] <snark> zymaster, you say you have *just*  installed Ubuntu so why not trash it and start again
[01:05]  * PatrickDickey wonders if it thinks it's on a display, but that isn't the right one anymore...
[01:05] <zymaster> wilee-nilee: Ok it worked
[01:06] <wilee-nilee> zymaster, No sure what worked but moving the whole ubuntu partition should take awhile.
[01:06] <kevin____> hi all. so i need to reconfigure grub2. it looks like my bootloader was overwritten by windows (sigh...) .  i am currently booted in a livecd. how can i reconfigure grub?
[01:06] <goddard> this sucks i gotta get some work done
[01:07] <PatrickDickey> !grub | kevin____
[01:07] <kevin____> wonderful. thanks
[01:07] <zymaster> wilee-nilee: It was practically instant, maybe because I haven't really put anything on ubuntu partition yet other than the os
[01:07] <wilee-nilee> kevin____, You ever chrooted before?
[01:08] <wilee-nilee> zymaster, cool, so you understand the process then.
[01:08] <zymaster> anyway it worked thx all
[01:08] <t1ckt0ck> Goddard. Have you tried alt-f8 or f7 to resize or move net beans?
[01:08] <PatrickDickey> goddard, you could try rebooting and then opening it. I'm trying to remember what I've had to do in that situation, but it's been a while. I think I had to disconnect all the other displays, reboot, open the app, and then I could reconnect everything.
[01:08] <snark> zymaster, as long as its worked and your happy!
[01:08] <PatrickDickey> goddard, I'd try t1ckt0ck 's suggestion first.
[01:09] <bretolius> I installed 12.10 and everything was going okay.
[01:09] <bretolius> I then installed the nvidia drivers
[01:09] <bretolius> now when I retart, the screen is in this weird zoomed in low res mode
[01:09] <bretolius> and there is no unity interface when I log in
[01:09] <bretolius> just the desktio
[01:09] <bretolius> desktop*
[01:09] <wilee-nilee> !enter > bretolius
[01:09] <loadid> bretolius: sudo nvidia-settings
[01:09] <PatrickDickey> bretolius: did you install them through ubuntu or from nvidia.com's site?
[01:09] <loadid> can you change the resolution from there?
[01:10] <goddard> PatrickDickey: what suggestion killing the process?
[01:10] <JayLoSkee> Hello Room.  I've been using Ubuntu exclusively for 6 months.  Still new to Linux. Upgraded from 12.04 to 12.10 yesterday.  Process was smooth.  However I lost functionality of the VirtualBox application. I really need this working!  Every time I try to start my virtual machine I get the error "  p, li { white-space: pre-wrap; }  The VirtualBox Linux kernel driver (vboxdrv) is either not loaded or there is a permission problem with /dev/vb
[01:10] <JayLoSkee> '/etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup'
[01:10] <JayLoSkee> as root. If it is available in your distribution, you should install the DKMS package first. This package keeps track of Linux kernel changes and recompiles the vboxdrv kernel module if necessary."
[01:10] <PatrickDickey> goddard alt+F8 or alt+F7 to resize netbeans.
[01:10] <bretolius> loadid: no, no launchbar is shown wilee-nilee: i used the ubuntu installer
[01:10] <t1ckt0ck> goddard: trying your alt f keys
[01:10] <loadid> JayLoSkee: run /etc/ini.d/vboxdrv setup as root
[01:10] <JayLoSkee> Help me ubuntu   you're my only hope
[01:11] <bretolius> wilee-nilee: or loadid do you know how I could launch the software sources from terminal?
[01:11] <PatrickDickey> JayLoSkee to build on what lodid said, type sudo /etc/ini.d/vboxdrv in a terminal and then put your password in.
[01:11] <bretolius> I would like to just roll back the driver
[01:11] <loadid> bretolius: sources are in /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:12] <kevin____> alright. looks like it worked. thanks a..
[01:12] <kevin____> all*
[01:12] <loadid> but that's not where your problem is
[01:12] <JayLoSkee> okay...trying it now
[01:12] <wilee-nilee> bretolius, I'm not in 12.10 right now but I would just access it from the software center
[01:12] <bretolius> loadid: I can launch some gui apps
[01:12] <bretolius> ok
[01:13] <PatrickDickey> bretolius software-center will launch the Software Center.
[01:13] <wilee-nilee> edit-software sources in the software center bretolius
[01:13] <loadid> bretolius: you don't need to roll back a driver, you just need to install the correct one.  or perhaps configure the one your using... with nvidia-settings
[01:13] <bretolius> I want to roll back to the X.Org for a moment
[01:13] <PatrickDickey> bretolius: which video card do you have?
[01:14] <bretolius> I have an nvida 260
[01:14] <JayLoSkee> Patrick....... My terminal returns "sudo: /etc/ini.d/vboxdrv: command not found"
[01:14] <bretolius> its not just a resolution issue
[01:14] <bretolius> its like unity isnt launching or something
[01:14] <loadid> you typed something wrong JayLoSkee
[01:14] <wilee-nilee> JayLoSkee, Are you running in root?
[01:15] <PatrickDickey> JayLoSkee: try sudo ./etc/ini.d/vboxdrv instead.
[01:15] <loadid> JayLoSkee: learn to use tab complete
[01:15] <loadid> you have no ini.d directory
[01:15] <physically_fit> guys why 12.10 doesn't appear in my update manager? i've been waiting, but wikipedia says it was released on 10/18. what should i do?
[01:16] <bretolius> loadid: PatrickDickey and wilee-nilee: I tried the current update nvidia drivers, ill try the tested ones next...
[01:16] <ardchoille> should be /etc/init.d
[01:16] <PatrickDickey> And JayLoSkee did you install dkms like it recommends?
[01:16] <wilee-nilee> physically_fit, Go to the software sources and set it for all upgrades
[01:16] <loadid> physically_fit: update-manager -d
[01:16] <PatrickDickey> lodid, I think he's copying your command from earlier (which I mistakenly copied and pasted to him).
[01:16] <wilee-nilee> bretolius, I know nothing about this area, just a heads up.
[01:17] <ai9371> 987
[01:17] <loadid> you're right, i see that now
[01:17] <wilee-nilee> physically_fit, ubuntu software center-edit-software sources
[01:17] <physically_fit> wilee-nilee, i only have not proposed uncheked
[01:17] <PatrickDickey> physically_fit: Open Software Sources. On the "Updates" tab, change the notify me of new versions from LTS to "any" and it will prompt you after reloading.
[01:17] <physically_fit> loadid, why isn't automatic?
[01:18] <loadid> JayLoSkee: see where it errors and says "run  '/etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup' as root".... do that
[01:18] <PatrickDickey> physically_fit: The default is Long Term Services only because typically the intermediates are "beta" versions. (I use that term VERY loosely).
[01:18] <physically_fit> PatrickDickey, loadid, wilee-nilee got it! thank friends.
[01:18] <wilee-nilee> physically_fit, updates tab bottom drop down set it to for any new version
[01:18] <loadid> you only asked if the software was upaded to the currect repositories physically_fit
[01:19] <wilee-nilee> physically_fit, cool
[01:19] <loadid> you didn't ask it to look at alternate repositories... i.e. 12.10 instead of 12.04
[01:19] <JayLoSkee> loadid....whats the command for root?  is it su?
[01:19] <PatrickDickey> physically_fit: make sure you read the release notes first.
[01:19] <wilee-nilee> JayLoSkee, sudo -i
[01:19] <physically_fit> PatrickDickey, why?
[01:20] <JayLoSkee> thanks willie.....hold on guys
[01:20] <drworm> if you want to run a command as root, use "sudo <command>"
[01:20] <physically_fit> PatrickDickey, i just update
[01:20] <PatrickDickey> physically_fit: because if you're using an older ATI card, you might run into issues.
[01:20] <physically_fit> PatrickDickey, oh no, i am using an ATI indeed.
[01:20] <wilee-nilee> and always be backed up
[01:21] <PatrickDickey> physically_fit: which card is it?
[01:21] <drworm> if you have an older ATI card, you'll have to download and install the previous legacy drivers
[01:21] <JayLoSkee> thanks for the reminder....i'm in root now...next step?
[01:21] <physically_fit> PatrickDickey, thanlks for warning
[01:21] <loadid> JayLoSkee: see where it errors and says "run  '/etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup' as root".... do that
[01:21] <Girls_Escort> Porn SEx Girls http://fredfilms.blogspot.com
[01:21] <PatrickDickey> drworm do they work now? When I upgraded, I lost all of the panels on Unity. I had to purge the proprietary drivers. Now everything is slow.
[01:22] <drworm> PatrickDickey, yes they work.
[01:22] <wilee-nilee> lol like there is not enough on the web to find that.
[01:22] <rocktop> hello is tcp_window_scaling best for network performance ?
[01:22] <physically_fit> PatrickDickey,  ATI Radeon Mobility X1400
[01:22] <drworm> Purge the fglrx and fglrx-amdcccle
[01:22] <PatrickDickey> drworm do you have steps (or a link to steps) for getting them installed?
[01:23] <drworm> Yeah, one sec.  Let me find the link.
[01:23] <physically_fit> PatrickDickey, it's in my laptop i use for everything, watch movies connected to my tv.
[01:24] <Rempala> in 10.04 how do i disable the screen blanking from the console? (I do not have X installed)
[01:24] <PatrickDickey> you might not have a problem then physically_fit. I upgraded my laptop and it worked. My desktop however.....
[01:24] <JayLoSkee> loadid.........no dice here is a copy of my shell. tell me where i'm wrong
[01:24] <JayLoSkee> /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup
[01:24] <cerberusXX> Hello, need help with Broadcom driver here, anyone??
[01:24] <wilee-nilee> !broadcom | cerberusXX
[01:24] <JayLoSkee> /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup
[01:24] <loadid> what's the error JayLoSkee?
[01:25] <physically_fit> PatrickDickey, friend, i have an older desktop with ubuntu too. what thing didn't work in your desktop?
[01:25] <wilee-nilee> cerberusXX, Not sure if you had seen that link, otherwise I can't help.
[01:25] <cerberusXX> i have done what's said there already wilee_nilee
[01:25] <JayLoSkee> no such file or directory
[01:25] <drworm> PatrickDickey, go to unixmen.com and the article on how to install the legacy 12.6 ATI drivers with 12.10 is there.
[01:25] <PatrickDickey> Unity didn't work right. I didn't have any panels at all (top or side).
[01:25] <drworm> Running 12.10 with an older ATI card myself and it's working.  :)
[01:26] <drworm> For the record, it's not an Ubuntu problem, per se...
[01:26] <PatrickDickey> drworm do I have to get out of unity first?
[01:26] <loadid> i still say you're typing something wrong JayLoSkee
[01:26] <cerberusXX> this is macbook 8.2 with latest lts, driver wont show up anywere. im stuck to a wall consequently
[01:26] <PatrickDickey> Nope, it's an ATI problem. They don't want to support their older cards on X.Org 11.
[01:26] <physically_fit> PatrickDickey, now i am getting scared... but i'll update anyway both machines XD
[01:27] <loadid> ohh.. JayLoSkee exit out of root and run as sudo
[01:27] <drworm> nope.  purge fglrx and fglrx-amdcccle, reboot and then install the 12.6 drivers from AMD's site.
[01:27] <eankele> JayLoSkee - had the same problem yesterday - check out http://askubuntu.com/questions/205154/virtualbox-etc-init-d-vboxdrv-setup-issue
[01:27] <PatrickDickey> physically_fit: Do the laptop first (back it up before you start though). If it works, then do the desktop.  Don't do them at the same time.
[01:27] <JayLoSkee> loadid....verify the command with "" please
[01:27] <loadid> "sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup"
[01:27] <physically_fit> PatrickDickey, yeah i won't, i'll need the interwebs to search for help just in case...
[01:28] <loadid> but don't be logged in as root JayLoSkee, just run as root
[01:28] <ahmad> quick question the 'sudo apt-get -y install build-essentials' also installs gcc compiler?
[01:28] <cerberusXX> if a recent macbook can't even get a wifi driver i donno what can
[01:28] <PatrickDickey> physically_fit: I can't emphasize the backup first part enough though. If it doesn't work, you may have to reinstall 12.04 (or whatever version you're on now).
[01:29] <ChrisPartridge> I've added two users to my system, both with adduser - one user can run a process which outputs to stdout fine, the other user recieves an error "Error: Unable to write to destination" - any clues as to where I can start looking to trouble shoot this?
[01:29] <physically_fit> PatrickDickey, thanks friend for all your advices, you are so nice :)
[01:29] <t1ckt0ck> @PatrickDickey. You're fighting the good fight here. Thanks for being available.
[01:29] <loadid> make sure the second user is part of the stdout group t1ckt0ck?
[01:29] <drworm> ChrisPartridge, are the user directories being created properly in /home?
[01:30] <ChrisPartridge> drworm: Yeah both have home directories
[01:30] <dem0n> hey guys any time you use dd it automatically formats whatever drive it is writing to right? like i wrote an image file to my sdcard and dd gave me an input/output error and i did it again but i didn't format my sdcard because dd would do that for me, am i correct?
[01:30] <loadid> dd does not format
[01:31] <dem0n> doesn't it erase everything on the sdcard drive?
[01:31] <loadid> dd clones a disk sector for sector, bad sectors and all
[01:31] <PatrickDickey> t1ckt0ck: no problem. I don't know a lot, but I try to help when I can.
[01:31] <JayLoSkee> loadid....updating my dkms package w/ linux kernal image....i'll try it again in just a minute
[01:31] <PatrickDickey> drworm, did you use the ppa method on your card, or did you download the script from ati's site?
[01:31] <ahmad> i guess so, the answer is yes :P
[01:31] <loadid> JayLoSkee: vbox needs reconfigured around the new kernel you installed, that's why this process is necessary
[01:31] <JayLoSkee> thks eankele hope this works :)
[01:31] <drworm> PatrickDickey, I downloaded the drivers from AIT's site
[01:32] <loadid> it should JayLoSkee
[01:32] <PatrickDickey> I'll try it in the morning. Time to leave for work now...
[01:32] <loadid> not sure why that setup isn't availble while rooted
[01:32] <trism> ahmad: for future reference with packages like that: apt-cache depends package_name; helps
[01:32] <drworm> Have a good day/night at work!
[01:32] <ahmad> ty trism
[01:34] <bretolius> So the package maintainers effed up nvida settings i guess http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12303179#post12303179
[01:35] <dem0n> see what i am wondering is i have an sdcard drive and i am trying to write and lubuntu image to my sdcard drive with dd, so i ran dd and the first time it gave me an input output error and records in and records out where off by 1 sector, so i ran it again but i did not format the sdcard drive because i thought dd would do that for me (format as erase the bad image file) and when i ran it the second time it i believe everything worked, the records in match th
[01:35] <dem0n> i hope you guys can understand what i am asking...
[01:35] <gh0st_> i <3 ubuntu!
[01:36] <yatoyato> gh0st_: Me too! :)
[01:36] <drworm> me too, gh0st_!
[01:36] <JayLoSkee> updated dkms package w/ linux kernal image upgrade....ran command again but no luck....should i try to uninstall vbox then reinstall?
[01:36] <dem0n> this is the output that i recieved from dd
[01:36] <dem0n> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1301627/
[01:36] <gh0st_> Ubuntu Server/backtrack is all you need! :D
[01:36] <bretolius> anyone else getting modem-manager caught signal 15 on shutdown errors?
[01:36] <ActionParsnip> gh0st_: why backtrack?
[01:37] <gh0st_> because i use it
[01:37] <gh0st_> and like it alot :D
[01:37] <ActionParsnip> gh0st_: I hope not for casual browsing and so forth
[01:38] <drworm> dem0n, are you trying to make a bootable flash drive?
[01:38] <gh0st_> nah
[01:38] <gh0st_> action: im a student in security
[01:38] <gh0st_> thats why
[01:38] <gh0st_> great learning distro :D
[01:38] <lotuspsychje> any known issues on 12.10 install from usb, freeze just before partition section?
[01:39] <dem0n> drworm: yes, i have a mini pc -> mk802 3rd generation which runs natively on the android 4.0 operating system but i am trying to get ubuntu working on my mini pc the mk802
[01:39] <dem0n> gh0st_: where are you a student in "security" ?
[01:40] <lotuspsychje> !ot | dem0n
[01:40] <Calisto94> One question: Which NTFS driver is included to Ubuntu 12.04? Is it ntfs-3g? And: It supports writing to NTFS, but i was told it'
[01:40] <Calisto94> + is just experimental
[01:40] <Calisto94> Is it safe to write on NTFS with Linux already?
[01:40] <lotuspsychje> !ntfs | Calisto94
[01:41] <Calisto94> Okay
[01:41] <Calisto94> !ntfs-3g
[01:41] <dem0n> well my question is really just dd, which i believe is on topic for ubuntu as far as general questions, but let me know if dd is considered "off topic"
[01:41] <kfed> Muon isn't working for me and I can't seem to download any packages
[01:41] <Calisto94> !fuse
[01:41] <kfed> Whether from within Muon or using apt-get on the terminal
[01:41] <Calisto94> Hm
[01:41] <xrs1> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-lowlatency/+bug/1068660    recommended fix has no effect. New updates installed today and now when i plug my thumbdrive in it just blinks repetitively and doesnt stop. no icon appears on desktop. gparted reports the drive as unallocated with a red triagle w/ !
[01:42] <kfed> My internet connection is fine, and I have tried changing the server it retreives packages from
[01:42] <Calisto94> Okay, from the link i followed i'm told "NTFS-writing is experimental but already meant to be safe on Linux. It just sometimes causes an error and aborts - then the user needs totry again
[01:42] <Calisto94> My question was answered :)
[01:42] <Calisto94> thx
[01:43] <sazawal> The minimode plugin in exaile 0.3.2.2 in Ubuntu 12.10 does not remember its position. Help!
[01:43] <kfed> but in Muon I always get the error message "Failed to download http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/source/Sources"
[01:43] <loadid> kfed, try changing the main server in your edit software sources
[01:44] <loadid> or disable that specific repo and deal without the upgrades of the ubuntu extras
[01:44] <dlw> ubuntu install failed, can only access via install CD, need help to figure out what went wrong
[01:45] <end_guy> I've recently updated to Ubuntu 12.10 and while upgrading I recieved errors installing some packages. Now everytime I have updates it errors with this: https://gist.github.com/3943230
[01:45] <loadid> dlw, a fresh install or an upgrade?
[01:46] <|Anthony|> is there a way to specify that all files in a folder (current and future) will belong to a group? say i put a file in a folder, instead of it being user:anthony and group:anthony have it be group:somegroup?
[01:46] <dlw> fresh install
[01:46] <loadid> i would confirm the md5sum and try again
[01:46] <dem0n> so dd does erase all data, i found that doing some research
[01:46] <loadid> don't try to fix it, more work that worth it most times
[01:46] <dem0n> i need to setup a vnc server now...
[01:47] <loadid> dem0n: dd doesn't erase all data
[01:47] <loadid> only erases over sectors
[01:47] <|Anthony|> it sure can
[01:47] <end_guy> I've tried using apt-get update -f, apt-get dist-upgrade, and still recieve https://gist.github.com/3943230
[01:47] <end_guy> s/update/upgrade/
[01:48] <loadid> dd copes sector for sector, so if it only uses half of the sectors your writing into dem0n.. then it will leave the second half untouched
[01:48] <loadid> thus NOT erasing all data
[01:49] <sazawal>  The minimode plugin in exaile 0.3.2.2 in Ubuntu 12.10 does not remember its position. What to do?
[01:50] <|Anthony|> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda
[01:50] <dem0n> ya that would erase everything
[01:50] <|Anthony|> so that doesn't zero fill a drive
[01:50] <dem0n> ^
[01:50] <|Anthony|> right, it can erase all data
[01:51] <joeeeee> may i ask ?
[01:51] <xrs1> i am having trouble with a bug. there seems to be a fix, but the fix doesnt work for me. New updates installed today and now the problem seems to be worse, not better
[01:52] <xrs1> !ask
[01:52] <|Anthony|> is there a way to specify that all files in a folder (current and future) will belong to a group? say i put a file in a folder, instead of it being user:anthony and group:anthony have it be group:somegroup?
[01:52] <dlw> At boot up, a screen opens asking to select W7 or ubuntu. Selecting either on of them does not work. Do I need to fix grub, if so, how? Typing grub or lilo in a terminal it says they are not installed.
[01:52] <DaemonicApathy> |Anthony|: You could probably write a script for that.
[01:52] <joeeeee> ok . when i plug headphone jack speakers don't mute
[01:53] <sazawal>  The minimode plugin in exaile 0.3.2.2 in Ubuntu 12.10 does not remember its position. Help!
[01:53] <loadid> you would need to write a script |Anthony|... if "file exists in /foo" then "chmod /foo/file"
[01:53] <|Anthony|> DaemonicApathy, blah. no scripting. was hoping there could be a more sane way of doing it with something builtin
[01:54] <|Anthony|> playing with ACLs and just noticing some annoyances
[01:54] <|Anthony|> shared folders and whatnot
[01:55] <|Anthony|> primary annoyance is that acl modifications won't take effect till the next login
[01:55] <wastrel> hi
[01:55] <DaemonicApathy> joeeeee: There is one solution that has worked for some people... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=798945
[01:56] <DaemonicApathy> dlw: What color screen/text?
[01:56] <dlw> Black screen white text
[01:56] <DaemonicApathy> dlw: So you installed Ubuntu with wubi?
[01:57] <dlw> I installed it off a live CD
[01:57] <DaemonicApathy> dlw: You can use a live CD to install and configure grub, which will result in a different boot screen. Sounds like the Windows loader is currently handling it.
[01:58] <dlw> How is this solved?
[01:58] <dormito> I have some ntfs partitions that I would like mounted at boot up (instead of only when I try to access them as is the default for ubuntu 12.04 and 12.10) since I know very little about the mount command and the files used in boot up (though I suspect its an excllent place to break things) should I just find a third party util to do this or ubuntu 12.10 come with such a tool?
[01:58]  * stevecam is upgrading
[01:59] <stevecam> I love the new download page, good idea
[01:59] <DaemonicApathy> dlw: http://www.av8n.com/computer/htm/grub-reinstall.htm
[01:59] <DaemonicApathy> stevecam, the donation page?
[01:59] <loadid> networking acl's = hdmi |Anthony|?
[01:59] <stevecam> yeah, i hope it helps with the project
[01:59] <DaemonicApathy> Me too.
[01:59] <|Anthony|> i don't follow there loadid
[02:00] <loadid> me either...
[02:00] <wilee-nilee> !fstab > dormito
[02:00] <loadid> never mind
[02:00] <|Anthony|> loadid, what does hdmi have to do with it? did i mention anything about hdmi?
[02:00] <loadid> hdmi ports usually say no
[02:01] <|Anthony|> oh. no. just setting up file/folder permissions for shared access
[02:01] <|Anthony|> and Access Control Lists are the tool at hand
[02:02] <loadid> yeah, bootie traps
[02:02] <|Anthony|> meh
[02:02] <|Anthony|> don't think there is a way to let someone into a folder, but not back out
[02:02] <viniciusarq> hey plp
[02:02] <DaemonicApathy> |Anthony|: In Ubuntu, sharing options are usually in the right-click menu with a folder.
[02:02] <|Anthony|> that would be sweet though
[02:02] <wilee-nilee> dormito, This might help as well it is a bit more clear.  http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/mountwindowsfstab
[02:02] <|Anthony|> DaemonicApathy, nah... this is a server. no gui please =P
[02:03] <DaemonicApathy> Hehe, fair enough.
[02:03] <dormito> wilee-nilee: thanks for the info
[02:03] <wilee-nilee> dormito, No problem. ;)
[02:03] <digitalvaldosta> hello. Trying to reinstall ubuntu server 12.04.1 unfortunately it does not find my raid. But if I choose "Rescue a broken system" at the first menu it will. However, this will take me to busybox for a "rescue mode" of sorts. Is it possible to start  the standard installer from busybox since it finds my partitions? I am actually trying to do a repair install.
[02:03] <|Anthony|> dormito, your nick is close to trademark violation
[02:03] <|Anthony|> lol
[02:03] <Calisto94> One question: Is idling here allowed (ZNC, BNC or such tools to keep the connection awake) ? :P
[02:04] <Calisto94> If yes, i'd like to create a ZNC for here :P
[02:04] <loadid> digitalvaldosta: is it online at your recovery console?
[02:04] <bazhang> Calisto94, of course yes
[02:04] <digitalvaldosta> I restarted and have it waiting at the first menu
[02:04] <dormito> |Anthony| : I am pretty sure you can not trade mark a single latin word
[02:04] <|Anthony|> lol i love doritos
[02:05] <loadid> you can try "apt-get -f install" or "dpkg-reconfigure something..."
[02:05] <Smackbook> is there any toolis there a tool for recording throughput between two machines over a length of time and graphing it, to look for the frequency of dips?
[02:05] <klaxtr> im starting a small web design company an i wonder if any one here would rekon a good hosting company for hosting 10 to 15 websites per year based on linux?
[02:06] <digitalvaldosta> don't think that will work in BUSYBOX prompt
[02:06] <|Anthony|> klaxtr, i've enjoyed 1and1
[02:06] <DaemonicApathy> Smackbook: like these? http://www.ubuntugeek.com/bandwidth-monitoring-tools-for-ubuntu-users.html
[02:06] <klaxtr> how many site you host there??
[02:06] <Nine_9> klaxtr: generally, dreamhost is the most recommended.
[02:06] <|Anthony|> past tense: "enjoyed"
[02:07] <loadid> Smackbook: it's called an oscilloscope
[02:08] <Smackbook> loadid: even as a joke thats a stretch
[02:08] <klaxtr> Nine_9: can you host many websites on linux
[02:09] <digitalvaldosta> *** Any ideas for starting the install for Ubuntu Server 12.04.1 from "Rescue a broken system" would be great. This is the only option that actually finds the RAID partitions that I need to repair the install on. ****
[02:09] <loadid> digitalvaldosta: apt-get -f install
[02:09] <ex0a> klaxtr: if you sign up with amazon you can host micro instances for free for a year (usually run me around 1.5$ a month for bandwidth on low b/w stuff)
[02:09] <digitalvaldosta> loadid, are you saying to do this from Busybox?
[02:10] <Nine_9> klaxtr: depends on the plan i think, personally I use hostgator and the business plan is quite good and allow you to host as many sites as you want (unlimited)
[02:10] <loadid> yeah, try to get the install process to pick up where it left off
[02:10] <klaxtr> ex0a micro instances means what?
[02:10] <Nine_9> there are some technical limitations though, like only 64MB of ram guaranteed (although mine server always has >1GB)
[02:10] <ex0a> small
[02:10] <ex0a> low resources
[02:11] <ex0a> go read up on it :P
[02:11] <bazhang> !ot | klaxtr
[02:11] <bazhang> klaxtr, lets take chit chat elsewhere please
[02:11] <DaemonicApathy> digitalvaldosta: This is all I can find that *might* help you - http://blog.neolocus.com/2012/04/ubuntu-12-04-lts-and-soft-raid-with-mdadm/
[02:12] <Nine_9> klaxtr: http://dreamhost.com/servers/compare-our-products/
[02:12] <Nine_9> unlimited domains
[02:12] <klaxtr> is it possible to use ubuntu one
[02:12] <klaxtr> ok sorry
[02:12] <bazhang> Nine_9, could we get back to ubuntu support please
[02:12] <bazhang> klaxtr, ask in #ubuntuone
[02:13] <Nine_9> bazhang: i was just helping the guy. sry
[02:13] <klaxtr> Nine_9 thanx a lot
[02:13] <Nine_9> klaxtr: you're welcome
[02:13] <klaxtr> bazhang: simple question sorry
[02:14] <ChrisPartridge> To rephrase my earlier question, when i run "wkhtmltopdf www.google.com -" on one user, it outputs to stdout fine, when I run it under another user (both users created with adduser), i get an error that it cant write to stdout. Does anyone know where I can start troubleshooting this?
[02:14] <svrnmnd>  I need some help with a multiboot usb..I made it using multisystem and there is a grub4dos a grub2 and a syslinux menu
[02:14] <svrnmnd>  everything installs automatically and besides the windows 7 iso everything else installed on the grub2 menu ...How can I get the windows install iso to boot from the grub2 menu? these are the values under syslinux :
[02:14] <svrnmnd>  MENU LABEL Windows install kernel chan.c32 hd0 1 ntldr=/bootmgr
[02:14] <svrnmnd>  when I boot syslinux I get the argument
[02:14] <svrnmnd>  boot:
[02:14] <FloodBot1> svrnmnd: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:14] <svrnmnd>  usage: chain.c32 (hd#:fd#:mbr:#) [partition]
[02:15] <end_guy> sudo /usr/lib/emacsen-common/emacs-remove xemacs21 fixed my problem :)
[02:16] <end_guy> Forum post of similar problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12314505#post12314505
[02:16] <k4r1m> would anyone have any idea why would git show modfications on a repo if I'm rsync'ing my repo from/to ubuntu/os x and vice versa?
[02:16] <loadid> svrnmnd: add your windows boot string into /etc/default/grub.cfg
[02:17] <svrnmnd> loadid: what would my windows boot string be?
[02:17] <digitalvaldosta> loadid, that will fix broken packages. That's not my case. Thanks. DaemonicApathy, we have a RAID controller on the MB. The system runs but the guy that installed it must have done something strange, because it throws errors constantly when running anything via the cli. I managed to fix some of the errors by chmoding the directories that it mentions but I was hoping to use the installer to either replace the core system files (like a Windows XP repair i
[02:19] <loadid> looks something like this set root='(hd0,msdos1)' svrnmnd
[02:19] <DaemonicApathy> digitalvaldosta: The RAID controller I referenced was to get the installer to recognize it, not the system itself.
[02:20] <DaemonicApathy> (The Ubuntu installer seems not to recognize RAID setups by default.)
[02:21] <svrnmnd> loadid "hd0 1 ntldr=/bootmgr" is what I have in syslinux but how do I make that a menu option on my grub.cfg ..things are written differently
[02:21] <loadid> svrnmnd: hd0 1 is usefull
[02:22] <RxDx> i have a netebook with a geforce 540m.. i installed ubuntu 12.10 and them bumblebee... works fine initially but after some reboots, when i try to log in appears a msg saying "running in a low graphic mode".. and I cant move the mouse.. is this a problem with nvidia-driver for optimus?
[02:23] <loadid> svrnmnd: enter blkid in terminal
[02:23] <loadid> pastebin it
[02:23] <dormito> I am trying to setup my .desktop file I have it set to execute  this command: /var/chroot/wine/wine explorer /desktop=SW:TOR,1000x614 "~/.wine/dosdevices/d:/games/Star Wars-The Old Republic/launcher.exe" A desktop is poped up, but only the blue background is shown(I have tried the command from the command prompt as well wit the same result). however if I cd to the directory of launcher.exe(which I checked to make sure is written correctly) and
[02:23] <dormito> then run the command (sans the path preceeding launcher.exe) it works properly
[02:23] <digitalvaldosta> DaemonicApathy: I'll read further but the first sentence says Software RAID
[02:24] <svrnmnd> loadid you know this is for a bootable usb right? not my computers startup?
[02:24] <bazhang> dormito, that would be an issue for checking in the appdb and joining #winehq
[02:24] <bazhang> !appdb | dormito
[02:25] <dormito> bashanh: my appoligise, I had joined winehq, but neglected to make sure I was in the correct channel before posting
[02:25] <loadid> i don't think it will matter, i'm looking for the UUID of your windows partition
[02:25] <loadid> svrnmnd: ^
[02:25] <tsimpson> dormito: you could write a simple wrapper script, put in in ~/bin for example, and cd to the directory before running the command. then just have the .desktop file execute that script instead
[02:25] <univerz> hi
[02:26] <univerz> hi
[02:26] <univerz> hi
[02:26] <FloodBot1> univerz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:26] <Zach_> For some reason my flash player doesnt work. after about 10 min. my computer shuts down. i have a dell inspiron 1525 running 12.04 lts
[02:26] <univerz> sorry
[02:26] <loadid> http://pastebin.com/SHWBy357 svrnmnd
[02:26] <svrnmnd> there is no windows partition on my machine it is just blackbuntu , I used multisystem to unpack the windows iso onto the usb
[02:27] <dormito> tsimpson: I would have tried that, but I know nothing of any scripting for ubuntu, how/where would I go to find out? (since I assume such documentation would be lengthy)
[02:27] <loadid> well that changes everything
[02:27] <svrnmnd> what do you need to know ?
[02:28] <univerz> Ping Dormito !
[02:28] <tsimpson> dormito: you just write a plain text file starting with the line "#!/bin/sh", then write each command on each line, just as you would write them in the terminal. then just make the file executable with "chmod +x /the/text/file", and you're done
[02:29] <svrnmnd> what you sent was actually what I am looking for : a way to add it to my grub2..I just think everyone keeps thinking there is a partition on my computer with it when it is an unpacked iso
[02:29] <ner0x> Looking to get the ChromeDriver installed, from what I understand chromium comes with it?
[02:29] <loadid> i don't know what your trying to do svrnmnd... add http://pastebin.com/SHWBy357 to your /boot/grub/grub.cfg and replace UUID
[02:29] <fagioli> ubuntu gnome remix 12.10 is > *
[02:30] <dormito> tsimpson: thats a nice and elegant way to do it: thanks :)
[02:30] <svrnmnd> the uuid of my swap or ext4?
[02:31] <svrnmnd> or of the usb?
[02:38] <ezio> what's the scriptfix command in ubuntu
[02:43] <ezio> how do i clean up script file junk
[02:43] <satch5150> hi all, im using ubuntu 12.04 server - is selinux enabled by default ?
[02:45] <ezio> col
[02:46] <ezio> that's my awnser
[02:47] <yeehi> what is that nice program (gnome i think) that helps you take a screenshot and edit /highlight areas of the picture...
[02:47] <lotuspsychje> howto rollback to an adobe flash that actually works and dont bug?
[02:48] <lotuspsychje> !info scrotch | yeehi
[02:49] <lotuspsychje> !info scrot | yeehi
[02:50] <yeehi> oh, thank you lotuspsychje - i am sure i would remember a name like scrot - i think it was another one - it had a gui ...
[02:51] <wilee-nilee> lotuspsychje, If you know what version of flash you want a search on the web would probably find it.
[02:53] <xtingray> apt-cache search quazip <- somebody knows if this project will be part of the Ubuntu repositories soon?
[02:56] <wilee-nilee> lotuspsychje, YOu can't roll back persay, but you can remove the one there if you get a earlier version. sudo apt-get purge flashplugin-installer
[02:57] <trism> !info libquazip0-dev quantal | xtingray
[02:57] <trism> xtingray: it appears to be in 12.10
[02:58] <xtingray> trism, as part of the default repository?
[02:58] <fraggy> hey, after upgrading from 12.04 to 12.10, apache now no longer starts, i get "...etc/apache2/httpd.conf: No such file or directory"
[02:58] <trism> xtingray: yes it is in universe in 12.10
[02:59] <xtingray> trism, great news! thanks! :)
[02:59] <loadid> is there such a directory fraggy?
[03:00] <fraggy> loadid, yes /etc/apache2/ exists, just not the httpd.conf file
[03:01] <loadid> so create one
[03:01] <_underscore> Hey guys, anybody checked catalyst 12.11beta with quantal? Is the xserver 1.13 clash issues still there?
[03:02] <jarray52> My speaker stopped working on my Ubuntu 10.04 install. Now, I don't have any sound. Any suggestions?
[03:02] <loadid> jarray52: reboot
[03:03] <jarray52> loadid: That doesn't fix the problem.
[03:03] <tim`> is there a fix for zeroc ice being broken on 12.10 ?
[03:03] <tim`> i am seeing this behavior https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/zeroc-ice/+bug/1067545
[03:03] <ESphynx> Hey guys... I'm getting a dependency error trying to install a 32 bit only package that depends on fonts-freefont-ttf ...
[03:03] <loadid> have you changed anything since it's stopped working jarray52?
[03:04] <ahmad_> anyone know of the link for tutorial on how to enable keyboard backlit function keys for samsung series 9 np9003xa
[03:04] <ESphynx> It won't seem to install because of the :i386 thing on freefont, but really the fonts should be architecture independent?
[03:04] <jarray52> I'm not sure. It stopped working a couple of weeks ago.
[03:04] <loadid> jarray52: type alsamixer in a console
[03:04] <xrs1> i fixed the issues im having with Bug #1068660. what should I do in launchpad to report that i don't need help with this bug anymore?
[03:04] <loadid> are all the volumes turned up
[03:05] <MestreLion> Guys.. I really *LOVED* the Lucid 10.04  netbook launcher. It is a killer interface for a netbook. Is there any way to get it back in Precise 12.04? Or a similar one?
[03:05] <jarray52> loadid: I typed alsamixer and turned all volumes up.
[03:06] <MestreLion> Any direction on a similar interface, or how to port Lucid's netbook-launcher to Precise would be highly appreciated
[03:06] <ESphynx> MestreLion: I admit that was kinda nice!
[03:06] <ESphynx> MestreLion: much less horrible than Unity :P
[03:07] <MestreLion> ESphynx: It was the very thing that made me switch from Windows... It felt perfect for a netbook
[03:07] <jarray52> loadid: All volumes are turned up.
[03:07] <sere> does lts. 12.04 still use fstab to mount.. for some reason fluxbox does not mount my drives in pcmanfm but lxde does??
[03:07] <MestreLion> there has to be a Precise port, or a similarly-looking package....
[03:08] <loadid> does your volume work jarray52?
[03:08] <jarray52> loadid: No
[03:08] <loadid> install pavucontrol
[03:08] <jarray52> pavucontrol is already the newest.
[03:08] <MestreLion> sere: Ubuntu 12.04 (and its derivatives) all use /etc/fstab... not sure about fluxbox, tho.. prolly not.. it's a very tiny distro
[03:08] <loadid> open pavucontrol
[03:09] <jarray52> loadid: okay. It's opened.
[03:09] <loadid> play around in there and see if it turns on, maybe in the profiles section
[03:10] <MestreLion> So.. no one has any info on a similarly-looking netbook-launcher for Precise 12.04 ? I really miss it
[03:11] <digitalvaldosta> Whats the difference between running LAMP from Ubuntu Desktop and Server?
[03:12] <MestreLion> digitalvaldosta: I can't think of any, why?
[03:12] <wilee-nilee> MestreLion, I've not seen any notices on a return of it.
[03:12] <fagioli> ubuntu gnome remix 12.10 would be best for netbook
[03:13] <Jagst3r15> i cannot install nvivida stable drivers
[03:13] <MestreLion> fagioli: "gnome remix" ? Never heard of it... Any URL?
[03:13] <sere> MestreLion,  i use lubuntu
[03:13] <Jagst3r15> this is what I see http://i.imgur.com/AurmP.png
[03:13] <loadid> try another version Jagst3r15, maybe nvidia-96
[03:13] <jarray52> loadid: I opened pavucontrol and tried all the profile options under configuration.
[03:13] <Jagst3r15> how come I only see experimental
[03:14] <MestreLion> wilee-nilee: I'm sure it won't "come back", since canonical is promoting Unity. But is there a known port of it? or an alternative? Maybe a PPA?
[03:14] <jarray52> loadid: None of them help with audio.
[03:14] <DaemonicApathy> MestreLion: http://ugr.teampr0xy.net/ I believe.
[03:14] <loadid> not sure what to say jarray52
[03:14] <Jagst3r15> loadid any idea
[03:14] <MestreLion> sere:  ad what does #ubuntu or lubuntu have to do with fluxbox?
[03:14] <wilee-nilee> MestreLion, Ubuntu has different OS in the works I believe I was just looking around I see nothing yet.
[03:15] <loadid>  are there any hardware volume controls that need turned up jarray52?
[03:15] <ahmad_> quick question guys in bash, what is the best way to append text to a root owned file?
[03:15] <jarray52> They are turned up all the way.
[03:15] <digitalvaldosta> Have an Ubuntu Server install, with KDE installed, that is throwing errors for /home/"user"/somefiles and have been trying to get the server install disk to recognize my RAID with no luck (except from the "repair a broken system" option). Also the desktop version sees my raid also. I am needing this server to run LAMP for a PHP application for a customer.
[03:15] <ahmad_> i tried  sudo -su -c "echo 'hello' >> /temp/new.txt"
[03:15] <ahmad_> it works great, just wondering
[03:16] <sere> MestreLion,  on my netbook.....and nothing lol
[03:16] <MestreLion> DaemonicApathy: I'm taking a look, thanks :)
[03:16] <Jagst3r15> loadid should i download from official geforce.com site
[03:16] <DaemonicApathy> MestreLion: Any time. GIMF :-)
[03:16] <loadid> no Jagst3r15.. use the repositories
[03:17] <narwalrus> Hello... a bit of a generic issue, but all of the other channels seem to be dead at the moment:
[03:17] <sere> MestreLion, my problem is not with fluxbox anyway... its with hal or something whatever it uses to automount the drives
[03:17] <loadid> sere.. fstab is used to mount drives
[03:17] <MestreLion> ahmad_: best is to use sudo tee -a file > /dev/null
[03:17] <MestreLion> DaemonicApathy: GIMF?
[03:18] <Jagst3r15> loadid how come they experimental though?
[03:18] <DaemonicApathy> Google Is My Friend </ot>
[03:18] <loadid> no official nvidia drivers for linux
[03:18] <MestreLion> ohh lol
[03:18] <loadid> i don't know
[03:18] <narwalrus> I'm attemption to edit a launcher to function properly (A .desktop file) to run it from terminal I: "cd ../.../opt/nxengine ./nx"
[03:18] <narwalrus> The launcher defaulted to a script (StartNX.sh)
[03:19] <narwalrus> But I assume I could do this command from the .desktop file?
[03:19] <narwalrus> In this case what would be the proper syntax from the aforemention terminal task?
[03:19] <narwalrus> (cd ../.../opt/nxengine ./nx)
[03:19] <DaemonicApathy> narwalrus: You can do any command you like from the .desktop file. Try making a new one (for messing around) that calls that script directly. See what happens.
[03:20] <Jagst3r15> loadid http://www.geforce.com/drivers/results/50196
[03:20] <MestreLion> DaemonicApathy / fagioli : seems a nice project, but it has no word about the netbook launcher. It looks like a vanillla gnome-shell in 12.04
[03:20] <ahmad_> MestreLion, thank you i will try it out
[03:20] <narwalrus> Okay, so what would be the default .desktop command to run /bin/StartNX.sh?
[03:21] <narwalrus> I already overwrote it :3:
[03:21] <narwalrus> I assume I'll just go back to editing the .sh
[03:21] <MestreLion> ahmad_: also, guys at #bash are really amazing for bash questions... true pros :)
[03:21] <ESphynx> guys, I have an explicit dependency to 'Depends: fonts-freefont-ttf' ... but installing the i386 package on a 64 bit system says fonts-freefont-ttf:i386 is not installable :( Any way I can force install ignoring the dependency?
[03:21] <ahmad_> MestreLion, awesome will check it out
[03:22] <DaemonicApathy> narwalrus: "cd /bin ; ./StartNX.sh"
[03:23] <MestreLion> narwalrus: is StarNX.sh a script you wrote yourself?
[03:23] <narwalrus> No, a script that doesn't/no longer works
[03:23] <MestreLion> DaemonicApathy: I'm not sure you can use that syntax in a .desktop file
[03:23] <DaemonicApathy> narwalrus: If it starts editing it by default, you may need to make the script executable.
[03:23] <narwalrus> No, I'm using vi
[03:23] <narwalrus> Intentionally
[03:24] <MestreLion> narwalrus: I wonder where it came from, because it has several issues: A) should not be in /bin B) should not use Caps C) should not have .sh suffix
[03:24] <narwalrus> This is a mobile device, root directory is locked unless you use command line
[03:24] <DaemonicApathy> You may be right, MestreLion. I rely too much on scripts themselves, and tend to forget the differences with .desktop
[03:24] <narwalrus> That may be relevent, the device channel is dead atm
[03:25] <narwalrus> So I have a desktop file I need to link to a shell file that should run "cd ../.../opt/nxengine ./nx"
[03:25] <narwalrus> Just to be clear
[03:25] <Jagst3r15> ill just use the Nouveau drivers
[03:25] <Jagst3r15> i cant figure this out
[03:25] <MestreLion> narwalrus: a script that requires cd? ewwww
[03:26] <narwalrus> Not necessarily; that's just how I get the program to run from shell
[03:26] <shihan> anyone know why ubuntu's libvirt starts vms with a seemingly random uid?
[03:26] <narwalrus> So I effectively wish to automate that so it starts from the .desktop file
[03:28] <cowsquad> is there any way to make windows in ubuntu 12.10 have the menu bar on the actual windows?
[03:28] <cowsquad> not the one by the dash
[03:28] <narwalrus> Switch to KDE
[03:28] <narwalrus> I kid..
[03:29] <elesbb> Hey guys, just upgraded to ubuntu 12 from 11 CLEAN install.
[03:29] <MestreLion> narwalrus: well, my suggestion is: 1) create a wrapper script that do exactly what you need/want: cd, parameters, etc. 2) save it as ~/bin/myscript (yes, in your $HOME), 3) make it executable 4) logout and log in 4) the .desktop line would be simply Exec=myscript
[03:29] <elesbb> my brightness settings dont work, and my wifi never connects again after sleep mode.
[03:29] <trism> cowsquad: for individual apps: UBUNTU_MENUPROXY= command; still works, otherwise you're probably still uninstalling the appmenu stuff
[03:29] <MestreLion> cowsquad: remove appmenu package
[03:29] <narwalrus> Sounds simple enough.. any issues with naming it .myscript?
[03:29] <narwalrus> As to hide it
[03:29] <elesbb> i remember having to edit something to get it to work but forgot what that something was
[03:30] <MestreLion> narwalrus: don't hide executables
[03:30] <cowsquad> trism do i add the command to my bahsrc, or where to I input that
[03:30] <narwalrus> But it's a phone, and it makes the home directory look ugly, and it will never be updated
[03:30] <MestreLion> its really bad practice. If you want it out-of-sight, install it to /usr/local/bin/myscript
[03:30] <MestreLion> wait.. a phone?
[03:30] <MestreLion> running #ubuntu ?
[03:31] <narwalrus> Nope, this channel is the only one that isn't dead right now
[03:31] <ahmad_> can anyone please tell me how to scroll back up on ubuntu server 12.10      right ctrl + shift up is not working...
[03:31] <narwalrus> It's debian based though
[03:31] <narwalrus> So close enough
[03:31] <MestreLion> narwalrus: but what OS is this phone running?
[03:31] <shihan> ahmad_,shift-page up usually works for me
[03:31] <narwalrus> Nokia N900; Maemo 5 based on Debian/BusyBox
[03:32] <MestreLion> narwalrus: debian is very different from ubuntu... specially regarling default dirs in $PATH.. for example, my ~/bin trick would not work by default in debian
[03:32] <MestreLion> and BusyBox is a totally different beast
[03:32] <trism> cowsquad: before you run a gui app, you can use a shell script...for instance my google-chrome has: export UBUNTU_MENUPROXY=0 before running google-chrome since the bookmarks menu can kind of lag and it isn't necessary anyway
[03:33] <narwalrus> Alright
[03:33] <silentmyst> Ok so, I have a stupid question I suppose.... I get what the "cut -d: -f1" command DOES, but I don't fully under stand HOW or WHY the syntax works. Can anyone seriously elaborate on this for me please?
[03:33] <narwalrus> What would you recommend then?
[03:34] <MestreLion> silentmyst: have you tried "man cut" ?
[03:34] <narwalrus> Placing the script in a nice place sounds straighforward
[03:34] <silentmyst> for example  - cat /etc/passwd | grep /home | cut -d: -f1
[03:34] <MestreLion> narwalrus: the problem is "nice place" depends a lot in the distro...
[03:34] <tsimpson> silentmyst: have you looked at "man cut"?
[03:34] <MestreLion> silentmyst: run "man cut", and try to find out... come back if you still don't understand
[03:34] <cowsquad> mastrelion, whick appmenu
[03:35] <cowsquad> there are like 3
[03:35] <cowsquad> appmenu-qt
[03:35] <silentmyst> i have tsimpson, just it removes sections from the file lines - but where does the "d: -f1" come from?
[03:35] <ESphynx> is there a dev Ubuntu channel? :|
[03:35] <MestreLion> ESphynx: read the topic ;)
[03:35] <tsimpson> silentmyst: -d specifies the delimiter, -f specifies the field number (fields are separated by the delimiter
[03:35] <tsimpson> )
[03:35] <MestreLion> tsimpson: I doubt he reall read it
[03:35] <cowsquad> appmenu-gtk and gtk3
[03:36] <silentmyst> ok... suppose i need to be educated on what a delimiter is to get it
[03:36] <MestreLion> cowsquad: remove the ones that are installed
[03:36] <narwalrus> So pwd from a new terminal gives me /home/user, as with blank "cd" bringing me there
[03:37] <tsimpson> silentmyst: the delimiter is the character that separates fields, in the above command you set it to a colon character
[03:37] <snark> silentmyst, you might like this    http://www.linuxintheshell.org/2012/03/28/episode-003-cut/
[03:37] <MestreLion> silentmyst: a delimiter is a character that you specify... to be used as a field delimiter. A "separator" -d: means "break the string using ':' as a separator", and -f1 means ".. and get the 1st field"
[03:37] <SuperMiguel> besides md0 what other name can i use for mdadm arrays?
[03:38] <MestreLion> ESphynx: #ubuntu-dev
[03:38] <narwalrus> Also to get proper help as the channel for the phone is predominantly europeon therefor offline for the next 3-4 hours, would debian or busybox be a good channel to go to?
[03:39] <silentmyst> i "think" i get it - sooooo when for example it breaks it down to xxxxxxxxxxx:xxxxxxxxx:xxxxxxxxxxxx each listing after : is a field, and your telling it which field to display?
[03:39] <MestreLion> narwalrus: if your phone uses Maemo, I would try #maemo
[03:39] <MestreLion> narwalrus: the phone itself is irrelevant.. what matter is the specific distro it runs
[03:39] <snark> to cut
[03:39] <silentmyst> right
[03:39] <MestreLion> silentmyst: exactly
[03:39] <tsimpson> silentmyst: each entry separated by :, including the first one
[03:39] <worm> Serious problem. I installed kubuntu-netbook in a newly installed ubuntu 12.10, then all of my windows are in KDE style. see the screenshot: http://imagebin.org/233045 How can I change it back to gnome style?
[03:39] <narwalrus> It's essentially dead right now as I said, I meant the maemo channel not the n900 channel excuse me
[03:39] <silentmyst> ok, thank you guys - seriously a big help
[03:40] <WeThePeople> i transfered data to ubuntu from windows and deleted the data on windows.. i booted back into windows and the windows dosent recognize i deleted the data.. whats goin on??
[03:40] <MestreLion> worm: that's exactly what installing kubuntu is for.
[03:41] <MestreLion> narwalrus: well, we could try to help you, but there's no way our help will be useful in a mamemo, specially if it uses Busybox
[03:41] <MestreLion> WeThePeople: more info about how you trnasfered and deleted would help
[03:42] <worm> MestreLion: But when I was still in 12.04 or earlier, those two desktop environments are not like this. In gnome, all of the windows are shown in Gnome style, and in KDE, all the windows are shown in KDE style.
[03:42] <digitalvaldosta> ROCK OUT WITH meh COCK out
[03:43] <xangua> workcjk: just change the gtk theme
[03:43] <worm> Even the firefox is in KDE style. Terrible. Then I tried to purge the kubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-netbook, but nothing happened.
[03:43] <ESphynx> thanks MestreLion
[03:43] <ESphynx> no one there MestreLion :P
[03:43] <jarray52> When I run nmap, I see that some service is running on port 2049(tcp). How do I determine what process is running on that port?
[03:44] <xangua> worm: uninstalling kubuntu-desktop won't remove kde, is just a metapackage
[03:44] <WeThePeople> mestrelion, i was in ubuntu when i transfered the data to the ubuntu partition from the windows partition.. after the data transfer was complete i (still in ubuntu) i deleted the data from the windows partition. then i booted into windows and check to see the hdd space and it didnt recognize that i had deleted the data.
[03:45] <worm> xangua: I know, but then apt-get autoremove doesn't help also.
[03:45] <xangua> worm: have you already tried to change the gtk theme¿
[03:45] <tsimpson> jarray52: "sudo netstat -lnp" will list all processes listening on network sockets, just look for :2049 (you may want to pipe the output through less or grep)
[03:45] <MestreLion> WeThePeople: have you emptied the trash?
[03:46] <adoily> MestreLion: where u from ?
[03:46] <WeThePeople> mestrelion, the recycle bin is empty
[03:46] <MestreLion> adoily: Rio, why?
[03:46] <adoily> MestreLion: sp
[03:46] <MestreLion> nice :)
[03:47] <worm> Changed in tweak tools. screenshot: http://imagebin.org/233048
[03:47] <xangua> !puregnome | worm: if you wish to remove all kde, neither uninstalling a metapackage or runing autoremove will do it
[03:47] <virus> WeThePeople: windows troll you again and again and again ....
[03:47] <MestreLion> WeThePeople: and, in Ubuntu, does it look like the data from windows partition is deleted?
[03:47] <worm> xangua, but that still don't work.
[03:48] <xangua> worm: the puregnome¿
[03:48] <narwalrus> Well just on standard..
[03:48] <worm> xangua: I mean, change GTK+ don't work. Thanks I am gonna remove the kubuntu.
[03:48] <narwalrus> How do I in an exec: statement run a .sh?
[03:49] <WeThePeople> mestrelion, yes
[03:49] <narwalrus> I think it was previously: exec:"sudo /bin/StartNX.sh" ... logical?
[03:49] <MestreLion> narwalrus: exec in a .desktop file?
[03:49] <jarray52> tsimpson: Thanks.
[03:49] <WeThePeople> mestreloin,  the hdd says i have 280 some mb left on the hdd, but i transfered over a gig and deleted over a gig of data
[03:49] <MestreLion> narwalrus: nope... it should be gksudo instead of sudo
[03:50] <narwalrus> The shell script launches the program, the .desktop launches the shell script
[03:50] <worm> xangua: But the newest version of ubuntu listed there is just 11.10. Wish it works with 12.10.
[03:50] <narwalrus> and how do I just test my .sh files via terminal?
[03:51] <narwalrus> chmod +x;              ./file.sh
[03:51] <MestreLion> narwalrus: just... type their name (with full path) and hit ENTER :)
[03:51] <narwalrus> ?
[03:51] <narwalrus> Ah okay
[03:51] <MestreLion> yes... but chmod only once
[03:51] <narwalrus> right
[03:51] <xangua> worm: there you go ;) http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/pureubuntu
[03:51] <MestreLion> narwalrus: and... avoid naming your executable files .sh
[03:51] <worm> xangua: Thanks a lot.
[03:52] <MestreLion> narwalrus: they are executables, regardless if they are shell scripts, C++ binaries or python scripts
[03:53] <MestreLion> narwalrus: the same way in windows you name all executables .exe regardless of the language they are written
[03:55] <snark> MestreLion, why avoid naming scripts   .sh  ?
[03:56] <MestreLion> snark: in windows, do you call executables "firefox.vcnet" ? or "utorrent.vbasic" ?
[03:57] <MestreLion> snark: executables are executables. Their language is irrelevant
[03:57] <MestreLion> you don't want to rename an executable if, later, you change a bash script to a python script
[03:58] <snark> MestreLion, sorry my misunderstanding  windows you were saying about
[03:58] <CoopDot^^> anybody here smart enough to know about VLANs in DDWRT router
[03:58] <MestreLion> snark: the same goes for Linux: in linux, executables don't have extensions
[03:58] <snark> MestreLion, they do now!
[03:58] <MestreLion> CoopDot^^: I'm sure there are smart folks in #dd-wrt
[03:59] <CoopDot^^> i  cannot type in that room
[03:59] <MestreLion> snark: no, they don't
[03:59] <narwalrus> Okay so my shell script is working now... :D
[03:59] <digitalvaldosta> :-*
[03:59] <narwalrus> But my desktop file is not.
[03:59] <digitalvaldosta> Anyone know how to keep teamviewer running or maybe a script to restart from webmin?
[04:00] <cyclobs> hi guys, need a little help with smtp authing on postfix, courier and mysql
[04:00] <snark> MestreLion, what about .so lib files?
[04:00] <MestreLion> digitalvaldosta: you sure you don't want to use vnc or even rcp ?
[04:00] <MestreLion> snark: those are not executables, they are shared libraries
[04:00] <MestreLion> equivalent of window's DLL, not EXE
[04:00] <spupuser2> any puppy guy here?
[04:01] <yeehi> Hey! I would like a GUI that would help me find lost files on a partition - i reinstalled GNU/Linux and there weren't any files left in my home partition
[04:01] <digitalvaldosta> Would prefer to use Logmein as the company I work for has all of our customers on it. but no support for that as far as I know
[04:02] <MestreLion> narwalrus: ./myscript will only work if you are in the same dir as the myscript. This is true for your terminal session, but may be not true for .desktop files. I have no idea of default dir in a maemo session
[04:02] <narwalrus> Thanks sooooo much for the help!
[04:02] <narwalrus> It's fully working now!
[04:02] <narwalrus> I needed to chmod +x both of them
[04:02] <MestreLion> narwalrus: of course
[04:02] <narwalrus> Totally spaced out that I'd need to after my vi edits
[04:02] <MestreLion> actually, not really... in Ubuntu you don't need to chmod .desktop files
[04:03] <digitalvaldosta> I had created a script that I ran from webmin to start teamviewer.exe but it wouldnt actually start the program so that I could remote in. :-(
[04:03] <narwalrus> Nonetheless I wouldn't have though of it but it worked... lol
[04:03] <digitalvaldosta> MestreLion: never could get VLC to work.
[04:03] <MestreLion> digitalvaldosta: vnc or rcp are your friends :)
[04:03] <DaemonicApathy> narwalrus: I told you that almost an hour ago. -_-
[04:03] <MestreLion> and VLC is a video player
[04:04] <MestreLion> a great one, btw :P
[04:04] <narwalrus> Hey, don't blame me, it's my brain. It's the stupid one.
[04:04] <CoopDot^^> anybody here smart enough to know about VLANs in DDWRT router
[04:04] <MestreLion> DaemonicApathy: in ubuntu they don't need to be +x'ed
[04:04] <narwalrus> By the way.. just had 5 terminals open on a phone..  o_0
[04:04] <MestreLion> CoopDot^^: how is that even remotely related to ubuntu?
[04:04] <CoopDot^^> nothing
[04:05] <yeehi> Hello! Please help me - i need a GUI
[04:05] <MestreLion> CoopDot^^: have you noticed you are in #ubuntu?
[04:05] <yeehi> a GUI for finding files on a partition
[04:05] <CoopDot^^> what room should i go then
[04:06] <digitalvaldosta> MestreLion: wouldn't you have to be in the same network?
[04:06] <MestreLion> yeehi: gnome-search-tool
[04:06] <yeehi> but the files aren't in nautilus - they were there on the previous installation though
[04:06] <MestreLion> digitalvaldosta: not if you configure you router appropriately
[04:06] <yeehi> thanks MestreLion - will that help me find images of files on a partition?
[04:06] <MestreLion> images of files?
[04:07] <cyclobs> anyway, i'm having issues with postfix dropping my domain names when it tries to authenticate SMTP to send e-mails.. any reason why it would be doing this?
[04:07] <MestreLion> CoopDot^^: no idea. maybe dd-wrt website has any directions?
[04:09] <aguadito> god, ubuntu won't stop fucking crashing. worse than windows
[04:09] <bazhang> aguadito, no cursing here
[04:09] <xrs1> then spend $200 and buy windows so you can bitch at them
[04:09] <MestreLion> digitalvaldosta: teamview is a proprietary windows app, packaged to linux with a built-in wine... So I would not consider it for a production environment
[04:09] <MestreLion> aguadito: If I were you, I would request my money back. Full refund
[04:10] <aguadito> i'ts just ridiculous, ubuntu can't handle java and flash worth a shit
[04:10] <aguadito> my win7 partition crashes less, freebsd crashes almost none but thats because of how i use it, and ubuntu crashes the most
[04:10] <cyclobs> lol flash
[04:10] <xrs1> sounds like a personal problem to be honest
[04:10] <MestreLion> aguadito: that's very true. Go to the store where you bought it and claim your full refund
[04:10] <bazhang> MestreLion, thats not helpful
[04:11] <MestreLion> bazhang: there's a better way to handle trollers?
[04:11] <bazhang> MestreLion, just dont respond. lets move on
[04:11] <furiousscissors> hello all, is there anyone that has experience using dual monitors with a laptop and an nvidia chipset?
[04:11] <WeThePeople> mestrelion, i had to boot back into ubuntu and delete the trash from there.. thanks
[04:11] <MestreLion> WeThePeople: like I told you ;)
[04:11] <ESphynx> bazhang, MestreLion: I see that as a valid unsatisfied user.
[04:12] <MestreLion> ESphynx: no one is forced to use ubuntu... zillion other distros out there
[04:12] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> How to I set up identD ?
[04:12] <WeThePeople> mestrelion, i thought you meant windows.. did not connect when you used the word trash.. lol
[04:12] <bazhang> [_-S1L3NC3-_], why do you need it
[04:13] <xrs1> i havent had any issues with java or flash yet.
[04:13] <MestreLion> [_-S1L3NC3-_]: search for identd in software center... there're a few packages.. but, imho, if that's only for IRC, I wouldn't bother about it
[04:13] <hazardous> [_-S1L3NC3-_]: apt-get install oidentd?
[04:13] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> for a serrver that rquires it
[04:13] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> ok
[04:13] <FuriousScissors> crickets ... would that be a question for the x server folks?
[04:14] <ESphynx> MestreLion: sadly, Ubuntu is still one of the best.
[04:14] <MestreLion> [_-S1L3NC3-_]: and, personally, any irc server that requires identd is not worth using, seriously
[04:14] <WeThePeople> furiousscissors, whats the issue
[04:14] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> reguardless of opinions it's needed
[04:15] <IdleOne> Personal opinions on what application should or should not be used are not helpful.
[04:15] <MestreLion> [_-S1L3NC3-_]: check wikipedia's article on ident to know why it's a fundamentally flawed "security" method... and why no decent irc server requires it
[04:15] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> it's not a popular IRC server
[04:15] <IdleOne> [_-S1L3NC3-_]: oidentd will work for what you need it for.
[04:15] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> but it's one i visit
[04:15] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> ok
[04:16] <MestreLion> IdleOne: I disagree. Sometimes one may *think* a given software is the best (or only) solution for his problem, but it may turns out there is a better approach
[04:17] <MestreLion> I also provided the solution he asked for, mentioning "identd" in software center
[04:17] <cyclobs> so i guess no one has any idea on my issue?
[04:17] <FuriousScissors> WeThePeople: XChat locked, sorry
[04:18] <WeThePeople> cyclobs, whats the issue?
[04:19] <FuriousScissors> WeThePeople: I configured a second monitor, it works just fine. I reboot my laptop without the second monitor plugged in and my mouse is confined to the y-axis only on the far left side of the window
[04:19] <cyclobs> i'm having trouble getting postfix to auth my SMTP against my mysql. It appears to be dropping my domain name on the user when it submits the sql query.. but i can't find a reason why it should be doing that
[04:20] <MestreLion> FuriousScissors: ubuntu 12.04 ?
[04:20] <cyclobs> 10.10
[04:20] <FuriousScissors> MestreLion: Yes, 12.04 Desktop
[04:20] <cyclobs> oh not me >.<
[04:20] <WeThePeople> furioussciccors, i take it this happened after you installed the software for the dual monitors
[04:20] <FuriousScissors> WeThePeople: It happened when I configured the second monitor
[04:20] <IdleOne> !10.10 | cyclobs
[04:20] <snark> FuriousScissors, is the far left side of the window   where the second monitor is ?
[04:21] <MestreLion> FuriousScissors: have you tried opening the Displays (via dash) ? can you post a screenshot of it?
[04:21] <IdleOne> cyclobs: 10.10 is no longer supported.
[04:21] <WeThePeople> cyclobs, matbe #networking may have a answer
[04:21] <FuriousScissors> snark: The second monitor is at home while i travel with my laptop
[04:21] <cyclobs> okay i'll check with them, thanks WeThePeople
[04:21] <FuriousScissors> MestreLion: Sure, I can do that. Btw, I should also mention that I am using Cinnamon
[04:22] <MestreLion> FuriousScissors: cinnamon may work very differently from ubuntu regarding dual-monitor setup. have you tried the Mint folks?
[04:23] <MestreLion> FuriousScissors: also... how did you configure it? using proprietary drivers or the vanilla "displays" window in system settings?
[04:23] <FuriousScissors> MestreLion: Not yet. This is an issue at the login screen, before I can even access the desktop. If this is not an ubuntu related issue, I will try the Mint support
[04:23] <FuriousScissors> MestreLion: Using the nvidia-settings gui
[04:24] <MestreLion> FuriousScissors: but are you using mint or ubuntu? they use different login screens... ubuntu uses lightdm and mint uses mdm
[04:24] <FuriousScissors> MestreLion: Ubuntu
[04:24] <WeThePeople> cyclobs, fyi #postfix, #postfixadmin
[04:24] <FuriousScissors> MestreLion: with the Cinnamon Interface
[04:24] <cyclobs> oh cool they might help even more
[04:25] <FuriousScissors> MestreLion: I should also note that my displays are not being detected correctly with the default Display app, I can screen shot that ... 1 sec
[04:26] <WeThePeople> furiousscissors, what app did you install for the dual setup?
[04:26] <MestreLion> WeThePeople: nvidia-settings gui
[04:27] <Tex_Nick> .
[04:27] <FuriousScissors> WeThePeople: http://i.imgur.com/ML3sX.png
[04:27] <FuriousScissors> WeThePeople: Default ubuntu nvidia drivers
[04:27] <MestreLion> FuriousScissors: you disabled the wrong monitor
[04:29] <FuriousScissors> MestreLion: Huh? This is how it showed up by default. The Current enabled monitor is the main laptop display.
[04:30] <MestreLion> FuriousScissors: and is it 1600x900? and larger than the stand alone 2nd monitor?
[04:31] <WeThePeople> furiousscissors, have you enabled the other 'monitor' in the gui to see if it would work?
[04:31] <FuriousScissors> MestreLion: Both monitors are 1600x900
[04:32] <snark> FuriousScissors, just removethe second monitor till you get back home
[04:33] <snark> FuriousScissors, to see if that helps your mouse issue
[04:35] <FuriousScissors> snark, WeThePeople, MestreLion: wow ... ok, let me back up for a second. I've been able to enable and use the second monitor just fine. Suppose I've decided to go to a coffee shop without the second monitor ... ok. I boot up Ubuntu and I cant move the mouse beyond the Y axis of the window. To fix this, I have to connect the second monitor and disable it. Then it works just fine. Is there any documented issues regarding this in conjunction with a
[04:35] <FuriousScissors> n NVIDIA based laptop.
[04:37] <MestreLion> FuriousScissors: i don't use nvidia here, but maybe googling may show if this is a known issue. Have you tried using the open--source drivers, just to test?
[04:37] <snark> FuriousScissors, thats what I was trying to say to you earlier
[04:37] <FuriousScissors> MestreLion: I have not installed the opensource drivers yet ... I might give that a try.
[04:37] <FuriousScissors> snark: Ah, ok.
[04:38] <FuriousScissors> MestreLion: If that does not help i might put together a ticket to fully document this using the standard unity interface.
[04:39] <FuriousScissors> MestreLion, snark, WeThePeople: Thank-you for helping. It looks like i need to do some more research into this. :)
[04:39] <MestreLion> FuriousScissors: good luck opening a ticket against a proprietary binary driver :(
[04:39] <snark> FuriousScissors, Ive had the same problem before (and thats how I fixed it and I dont think its a driver issue as I was using ubuntu drivers
[04:39] <WeThePeople> furiousscissors, i would look for a new piece of software to handle the issue
[04:42] <FuriousScissors> MestreLion: yea, thats the unfortunate side effect of proprietary drivers. I was looking into the open-source version of the driver a while back ... couple years ago ... and the driver was fine but it didn't support all of the features I wanted. Since this is just a basic dev box I might reconsider it.
[04:42] <WeThePeople> furiousscissors, http://osdir.com/ml/ubuntu-bugs/2012-10/msg26702.html
[04:43] <patrick99e99> hi guys..  I am kind of new to installing stuff on ubuntu..  I have an older version of imagemagick that I am trying to install, and I ran configure, and it output a list of options
[04:43] <FuriousScissors> WeThePeople: o.O Interesting ... thank-you very much
[04:43] <WeThePeople> np
[04:43] <patrick99e99> RSVG              --with-rsvg=yes     no
[04:43] <patrick99e99> I assume the no means I don't have it intalled ?
[04:44] <MestreLion> FuriousScissors: feature-wise the open source is great... also stability and integration. the major issue is performance. But if you don't care about 3d games, the open source ones may suit you fine
[04:45] <MestreLion> it's worth trying at least for debbuging
[04:46] <FuriousScissors> MestreLion: It looks like its not a driver issue ... i suspected this ... its an issue with ... sticky edges and disabled monitors.
[04:47] <WeThePeople> patrick99e99, http://www.imagemagick.org/script/binary-releases.php#unix
[04:47] <FuriousScissors> MestreLion: Sticky edges for some people .. but ultimately an issue with xorg
[04:47] <patrick99e99> WeThePeople: I need to install 6.7.5.7
[04:47] <MestreLion> humm, interesting FuriousScissors
[04:48] <FuriousScissors> MestreLion: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/990904, this is from the link WeThePeople found
[04:48] <MestreLion> FuriousScissors: I use sticky and I have a dual-monitor setup, and I also enable and disable one of them all the time.. never had an issue... maybe its nvidia-only?
[04:49] <FuriousScissors> MestreLion: Dunno, i'll still try the open source drivers ...
[04:49] <WeThePeople> patrick99e99, what version of ubuntu you on
[04:49] <cowbud> can I easily upgrade from natty to precise or do I need to first go to oneiric?
[04:50] <patrick99e99> WeThePeople: 12.04
[04:50] <patrick99e99> (lts)
[04:51] <MestreLion> cowbud: oneiric then precise
[04:51] <cowbud> bummer
[04:51] <cowbud> alright
[04:51] <cowbud> thanks
[04:52] <WeThePeople> patrick99e99, is it a tar.gz ?
[04:52] <MestreLion> cowbud: only exception are LTS release, like Lucid
[04:53] <patrick99e99> WeThePeople: https://gist.github.com/621b881ab1f04a9385ec
[04:53] <patrick99e99> WeThePeople: I untarred it.. ran ./configure on it
[04:53] <patrick99e99> that's the output I got
[04:53] <patrick99e99> this is a fresh VM install of ubuntu
[04:53] <patrick99e99> so I assume I need to install all the dependencies.. but I am just not sure how to do that?
[04:53] <patrick99e99> like .. how do I know what I need to install prior to installing imagemagick?
[04:54] <cowbud> apt-get build-dep imagemagick
[04:54] <WeThePeople> cowbud, deb ??
[04:54] <patrick99e99> ahhhhh thanks cowbud.. thats what I was looking for
[04:54] <cowbud> WeThePeople: full sentence?
[04:54] <WeThePeople> lol
[04:57] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: you said imagemagick 6.7.5.7 ?
[04:59] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: if you sure the one available in precise is not enough for you, it may be easier to install the quantal's version of it instead of using the upstream .tar.gz
[05:02] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: backporting a source package already provided in ubuntu is usually much easier (and 'safer', in  a way) than using vanilla's upstream
[05:06] <patrick99e99> should I be concerned at all about a bunch of rsvg deprecated warnings?  I assume because the apt-get dep got all the current dependencies for imagemagick
[05:07] <patrick99e99> rather than getting the dependencies that were current back when 6.7.5 was the latest and greatest...
[05:08] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: read my suggestions above
[05:09] <patrick99e99> MestreLion: what does "backporting" and "vanilla stream" mean?
[05:09] <ahmad_> hey guys, can anyone please tell me how to scroll up on output inside virtualbox 4.2.2 on ubuntu 12.10 server 64-bit?   ctrl + left shift + up is not working !
[05:11] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: theres imagemagick 6.6.9.7 for ubuntu 12.04 in the software center. You said you need a more recent version, correct?
[05:12] <MestreLion> ahmad_: change your HOST key from Left-CTRL to another key
[05:12] <patrick99e99> MestreLion: well, there were some changes recently that affect the way graphics are rendered.. Not sure what version that happened on..  But I know 6.7.5-7 was the previous version I had installed where everything was "right"
[05:12] <MestreLion> ahmad_: or try using the the other ctrl
[05:13] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: and how did you have 6.7 in 12.04? It is not available "by default" in software center
[05:13] <patrick99e99> MestreLion: I had 6.7 on mac os x
[05:13] <MestreLion> oh, ok
[05:13] <Guest41660> quit
[05:14] <MestreLion> Well, you have 2 choices: either use the upstream source (upstream = downloaded from developer website), OR you can use a version that is packaged to a newer ubuntu release, like the one from Quantal 12.10
[05:15] <MestreLion> which is 6.7.7.10
[05:15] <bassna> would anybody be able to help me get projectm to install correct?
[05:15] <ahmad_> MestreLion, i was just thinking that :0
[05:15] <patrick99e99> MestreLion: ok.. well I just finished this manual install of 6.7.5-- it seems to be working..
[05:15] <patrick99e99> but I am going to test it..
[05:15] <MestreLion> ahmad_: I have mine set up as right-alt... rarely interferes with anything
[05:16] <ahmad_> if you remember MestreLion what is the path to change that?
[05:16] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: it is usually better to install the ubuntu version of any software... there are less issues
[05:17] <zymaster> Hey quick question. I have an Alienware M14x with Ubuntu. Whenever I try to put some sound on my laptop speakers, the sound makes a little staticy sound every few seconds at an almost exact rhythmic pulse but only when Im trying to use my speakers.
[05:17] <ahmad_> nvm got it
[05:17] <zymaster> Any ideas for fix
[05:17] <MestreLion> ahmad_: File > Preferences > Input
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> any known issues on 12.10 usb install freezing before partioning screen?
[05:18] <zymaster> one sec im going to try reboot
[05:19] <patrick99e99> MestreLion: hmmmmmmm.. "No such file or directory @ error/blob.c/OpenBlob/2614."
[05:19] <zymaster> brb
[05:19] <patrick99e99> MestreLion: so how do I install 6.7.7.10 ?
[05:19] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: and it's also easier. here's how: dget --build http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/i/imagemagick/imagemagick_6.7.7.10-2ubuntu4.dsc
[05:20] <patrick99e99> MestreLion: should I do a clean install of this VM again?  Since I already installed stuff?
[05:20] <patrick99e99> or does it not matter?
[05:20] <ahmad_> MestreLion, its still not working :|
[05:20] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: do that in a new, empty directory, just in case
[05:21] <ahmad_> oh crappy me let me restart machine first
[05:21] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: no need. software you install using "./configure && make && sudo make install" go to a different place
[05:21] <MestreLion> but you do need to uninstall the version you compiled
[05:21] <patrick99e99> MestreLion: ok cool..  im installing the dget stuff first
[05:22] <chendo_> is there a way to easily get mysql 5.1.x on 12.04 without having to resort to compiling from source?
[05:22] <ahmad_> ahh hell, it wasn't that i needed to restart machine, when i change host key to right alt i cant click OK so i cant save
[05:22] <patrick99e99> MestreLion: uh oh... dscverify: imagemagick_6.7.7.10-2ubuntu4.dsc failed signature check:
[05:23] <ahmad_> when i close the dialog its back to right ctrl, any ideas?
[05:23] <patrick99e99> MestreLion: gpg: keyblock resource `/home/vagrant/.gnupg/secring.gpg': file open error
[05:23] <patrick99e99> gpg: Can't check signature: public key not found
[05:23] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: try adding -us -uc
[05:23] <bretolius> Is anyone aware of the modem manager error on shutdown?   It says it catches signal 15 or something?
[05:23] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: dget -us -uc --build http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/i/imagemagick/imagemagick_6.7.7.10-2ubuntu4.dsc
[05:24] <patrick99e99> it says "unknown option s and c"
[05:24] <ahmad_> it says "The value of the host field on the Proxy page is not complete"
[05:25] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: this is expected. but it did download 3 files and created a new subdir with the source, correct?
[05:25] <patrick99e99> yes
[05:25] <patrick99e99> well no subdir
[05:25] <wilee-nilee> bretolius, If your OS is runnimg fine I would ignore the start and stop code.
[05:25] <wilee-nilee> running*
[05:25] <patrick99e99> ive got two .bz2 and a .dsc
[05:26] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: (this error, if you are curious, happens because to build a proper source package, you need to sign it with your personal Gpg key... but you don't have created any personal key yet)
[05:26] <patrick99e99> yeah...
[05:26] <ahmad_> ahh got it working :) both proxy host and port set to 0
[05:26] <patrick99e99> should I create a key?
[05:26] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: you could create a key, or you can ask dget not to sign your package
[05:27] <MestreLion> let me check how
[05:27] <patrick99e99> MestreLion: I am open to either way.
[05:27] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: -u
[05:27] <Seven_Six_Two> I can't figure out why my webserver isn't accessible outside my own network. I am trying to set up openvpn, and didn't touch apache2
[05:28] <Seven_Six_Two> www has been working perfectly for months.
[05:28] <ahmad_> good gawd, even with right alt set its not letting me scroll up to see previously output text
[05:28] <wtf911> is there anyone here who wouldn't mind helping a noob setup reverse dns for either an ipv4 or ipv6? i have bind any a domain...i can't figure out setting this named.conf and stuff
[05:28] <patrick99e99> MestreLion: ok.. its doing its thing
[05:29] <patrick99e99> MestreLion: ok now there is a subdirectory with the code
[05:29] <patrick99e99> do I just do configure, install, make install now ?
[05:29] <MestreLion> no
[05:29] <MestreLion> it already build a .DEB for you, didn't it?
[05:30] <patrick99e99> MestreLion: how do I know?
[05:30] <MestreLion> err... ls ? :P
[05:30] <Seven_Six_Two> can anyone else get a webpage from me? http://dotcadot.ca  I even DMZ my server...dangit
[05:30] <patrick99e99> MestreLion: I've got imagemagick-6.7.7.10 (dir), then 2 .bz2 and a .dsc
[05:31] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: can you paste the output? Usually dget -u --build URL.dsc aleady builds a .deb file ready to be installed if you double-click it
[05:32] <patrick99e99> sure hold on
[05:32] <patrick99e99> oh
[05:32] <patrick99e99> I didn't even read the output!!!
[05:32] <patrick99e99> dpkg-buildpackage: warning: Build dependencies/conflicts unsatisfied; aborting.
[05:32] <patrick99e99> dpkg-buildpackage: warning: (Use -d flag to override.)
[05:32] <patrick99e99> I guess I should do -u -d then ?
[05:32] <zymaster> Ok I am back anything google said to do did not help nor did reboot.
[05:32] <wilee-nilee> Seven_Six_Two, THat address does not complete here.
[05:33] <MestreLion> humm... have you already run sudo apt-get build-dep imagemagick ?
[05:33] <zymaster> now I need some help
[05:33] <patrick99e99> yeah
[05:33] <Scott_S> What was the issue, zymaster?
[05:33] <patrick99e99> -d made no difference...
[05:33] <wubino> can I write a bash function thats arguments will not get written to the bash history?
[05:33] <MestreLion> patrick99e99:  check the previous line, the one that lists the dependencies
[05:33] <patrick99e99> dpkg-checkbuilddeps: Unmet build dependencies: fftw3-dev liblcms2-dev libtiff5-dev liblzma-dev
[05:34] <MestreLion> try installing them
[05:35] <MestreLion> if this does not work, it means Quantal's version of imagemagick uses libs that are in different packages (or versions) than PRecise
[05:35] <patrick99e99> so apt-get install fftw3-dev ?
[05:35] <ahmad_> MestreLion, any ideas? i changed screen capture to right alt even then ctrl + shift + up is not working
[05:35] <MestreLion> apt-get install fftw3-dev liblcms2-dev libtiff5-dev liblzma-dev
[05:35] <Scott_S> ^ Beat me to it.
[05:36] <MestreLion> ahmad_: screen capture? you mean the host key?
[05:36] <soc42> hi #ubuntu
[05:36] <Scott_S> Hello, soc42. What can we help you with today?
[05:36] <ahmad_> MestreLion, yes
[05:37] <soc42> i did a fresh install of ubuntu 12.04 in a vmware box and now i wonder how to install the vmware tools...
[05:37] <MestreLion> no idea ahmad_ . is 3D enabled (not sure if required)
[05:37] <klaxtr> is there a way to autohide the panle on top of the screen???
[05:37] <MestreLion> soc42: which is the host OS ?
[05:37] <Scott_S> soc42: sudo apt-get install open-vm-tools
[05:37] <soc42> hi Scott_S thanks for this friendly welcome or are you kind of annoyed?
[05:37] <Scott_S> soc42: I'm not annoyed at all. :) Just a friendly greeting.
[05:38] <wilee-nilee> klaxtr, unity?
[05:38] <patrick99e99> MestreLion: so...  I installed all of them except one.. because apparently I can't install it..libtiff5-dev
[05:38] <soc42> currently the host os is mac os
[05:38] <patrick99e99> "Package libtiff5-dev is not available, but is referred to by another package."
[05:38] <zymaster> anyone have any idea what would solve? thx if you can help this is very frystrating. if you guys missed what my problem was I have an alienware m14x and every time I try to play some sound, my speakers just start making this clicking noise and Itried all of the power save settings others have suggested
[05:39] <ahmad_> MestreLion, i got it on my ultrabook its set to function key + shift + page up
[05:39] <johnjacobjingerh> zymaster did it just start happening?
[05:39] <wilee-nilee> klaxtr, There is one for the gnome-shell that works up to 12.04
[05:39] <Scott_S> zymaster: Have you checked your sound settings to ensure that you have selected the appropriate output?
[05:39] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: then unfortunately the dependencies changed from quantal to precise. you may try to do a dget with quantal's libtiff5-dev
[05:39] <soc42> Scott_S: thank you very much! i really prefer beeing friendly at all
[05:39] <johnjacobjingerh> zymaster: did u update recently
[05:39] <ahmad_> MestreLion, thank you :)
[05:39] <Scott_S> soc42: You are very welcome, I am glad it worked.
[05:39] <johnjacobjingerh> same thing happened to me
[05:39] <patrick99e99> MestreLion: how does one do that?
[05:39] <klaxtr> yes unity
[05:39] <zymaster> johnjacobjingerh: yep
[05:39] <Scott_S> patrick99e99: If you are unable to install the package via apt-get, it is possible to download the source and do a "make && make install"
[05:39] <johnjacobjingerh> yep same thing happened to me after last update on my M16x
[05:39] <johnjacobjingerh> i reinstalled ubuntu and never did the update
[05:39] <localg0d> I accidentally copied a file to my root folder and then back out of the root folder and now the files won't show up ..
[05:40] <johnjacobjingerh> problem solved
[05:40] <patrick99e99> Scott_S: the libtiff5-dev package you mean?
[05:40] <johnjacobjingerh> i dunno what update caused it tho
[05:40] <Scott_S> patrick99e99: That is correct.
[05:40] <zymaster> Scott_S: I am on the right output
[05:40] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: the same way you did with imagemagick itself...  go to http://packages.ubuntu.com/, search for it, dget its .dsc file, etc etc
[05:40] <localg0d> can someone please help me get ownership back of my files an the folder ? like chown or sudo chown ? how do i do it again ?
[05:40] <johnjacobjingerh> chmod localg0d
[05:40] <Scott_S> zymaster: That's very odd... It's possible that the device drivers are not installed. Do you know what sound board your laptop uses?
[05:40] <johnjacobjingerh> oh wait
[05:40] <johnjacobjingerh> sorry... chown yea
[05:41] <MestreLion> Scott_S: he is trying to upgrade his imagemagick. I suggested backporting from quantal instead of using vanilla upstream
[05:41] <johnjacobjingerh> sudo chown <username> /file/name/here i think
[05:41] <Scott_S> zymaster: correction ** It's possible the built-in drivers on the Linux kernel aren't proper.
[05:41] <Scott_S> MestreLion: Ahhh, I see. I can't help too much there, I'm not -that- knowledgeable haha.
[05:41] <riqdiiz> what's backporting?
[05:42] <MestreLion> riqdiiz: instaling a version from a more recent release in a previous one
[05:42] <zymaster> Creative Sound Blaster Recon3Di High-Definition 5.1 Audio
[05:42] <thesadmafioso> hi room
[05:43] <wilee-nilee> riqdiiz, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backporting
[05:43] <soc42> Scott_S: yup. vmware tools installed successfully, thanksalot
[05:43] <Scott_S> soc42: You're welcome.
[05:43] <Scott_S> zymaster: I'm doing a little research. Give me a minute.
[05:43] <zymaster> ok thanks I will see if I can find a solution as well
[05:45] <localg0d> johnjacobjingerh, : chmod ???
[05:45] <thesadmafioso> I'm considering upgrading to 12.04 from 10.04 and have a few questions
[05:45] <soc42> how can i change the keyboard layout to match my local preferences?
[05:45] <Scott_S> zymaster: Have you done the following >> http://pastebin.com/ZNn5Hw9K
[05:45] <riqdiiz> thanks got it.
[05:45] <johnjacobjingerh> localg0d, i was wrong misread ur question
[05:45] <johnjacobjingerh> chown changes ownership
[05:45] <localg0d> johnjacobjingerh, : i want localg0d to be the owner .. what would the syntax b ?
[05:45] <thesadmafioso> I've never done an upgrade before, will I be able to keep all my installed third party software and things like bookmarks?
[05:45] <Scott_S> soc42: Press the Windows key and type in 'Keyboard Layout'
[05:46] <johnjacobjingerh> chmod changes permissions
[05:46] <Scott_S> thesadmafioso: What version of Ubuntu are you upgrading from? Generally, it is highly recommended to do a clean install.
[05:46] <kunji> Hmm, I know it's kinda off topic, but would anyone know why the performance of https://launchpad.net/gl-cairo-simple  degrades very quickly as the window size is increased.  The default size has quite good performance, but when fullscreen it crawls and uses close to 100% CPU.  Also, is this typical for relatively simple constructions with Cairo, or do you think something else is at fault (the openGL or SDL compnents?)?  Or could this be a p
[05:46] <Tech-1> thesadmafioso-  i prolly wouldnt advise that
[05:46] <zymaster> Scott_S: Thx trying it now. I will reboot and be right back
[05:46] <Tech-1> totally different monstor
[05:47] <thesadmafioso> Scott_S: I am upgrading from 10.04 to the newest LTS release 12.0r
[05:47] <Scott_S> kunji: I'd assume because as you increase the size of the window you increase the resolution, thus increasing the load on CPU/GU.
[05:47] <Scott_S> GPU **
[05:47] <thesadmafioso> Scott_S: 12.04
[05:47] <wilee-nilee> thesadmafioso, You will have to check if the 3rd party runs in 12.04, if ppas turn them on, book marks hard to say if you mean in nautilus, you will have a new desktop, probably.
[05:48] <thesadmafioso> I guess I could just back that stuff up to a flash drive
[05:48] <Scott_S> thesadmafioso: Honestly, it's a better idea to simply reinstall the apps after a clean installs. Distribution upgrades are... well, hectic, in my personal opinion.
[05:48] <thesadmafioso> Scott_S: That's what I'm afraid of haha
[05:48] <riqdiiz> while navigating must you types all the hirachy tree to the file you want to open?
[05:48] <patrick99e99> MestreLion: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGHH this is soooo annoying.  Everything has a missing dependency.  First its libjbig-dev.. then I install that.. then its libtool..  then I install that.. then it still tells me libjbig-dev is missing or in conflict
[05:48] <Scott_S> zymaster: Has that resolved your issue?
[05:48] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: are you still here? I managed to do it
[05:48] <kunji> Scott_S: yeah, I guessed that much, I guess I was just wondering why it drops off that badly, considering that the example is fairly simple, i.e. why does this get so bad while running SCII in Wine will still get 60 ish fps on my system
[05:48] <zymaster> Scott_S: Sadly it has not resolved anything ):
[05:48] <thesadmafioso> wilee-nilee: I really don't like the unity desktop and would rather use GNOME of cinnamon
[05:49] <johnjacobjingerh> localg0d sorry for the delay... are u trying to take ownership of an entire directory or a single file?
[05:49] <wilee-nilee> thesadmafioso, I would not upgrade without a clone of the original myself, I always fresh install.
[05:49] <patrick99e99> MestreLion: still here.. but not having any success
[05:49] <patrick99e99> im stuck on dpkg-checkbuilddeps: Unmet build dependencies: cdbs (>= 0.4.106~) libjbig-dev
[05:49] <patrick99e99> I cant get that to go away
[05:49] <Scott_S> zymaster: I'm sorry for that. :( I'd guess it is due to the built-in drivers do not fully support that chip.
[05:49] <localg0d> the entire folder like
[05:49] <wilee-nilee> thesadmafioso, Just be aware that cinnamon is not supported here.
[05:49] <johnjacobjingerh> localg0d, and everything in the folder?
[05:49] <thesadmafioso> wilee-nilee: right ;)
[05:49] <zymaster> Scott_S: Ok I will poke around see if I can find some proprietary drivers
[05:49] <johnjacobjingerh> (directory excuse me)
[05:49] <localg0d> like " sudo chown /home/localg0d/desktop/folder1" but it says doesn't work ..
[05:50] <johnjacobjingerh> well u have no username
[05:50] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: that is good. now you need the same with  http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/j/jbigkit/jbigkit_2.0-2ubuntu1.dsc
[05:50] <johnjacobjingerh> sudo chown <username> /folder/name/and/location/here
[05:50] <Scott_S> !chown
[05:50] <soc42> Scott_S: sorry, didn't work changing the keyboard locale with your hint
[05:50] <patrick99e99> MestreLion: yeah but I did that already..
[05:50] <johnjacobjingerh> sudo chown localg0d /home/localg0d/desktop/folder1
[05:50] <patrick99e99> and apparently it wasnt good enough?
[05:51] <patrick99e99> trying again
[05:51] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: this only happened because: 1) Imagemagick has a *huge* dependency list, and 2) those dependencies changed a bit from qualtal to precise
[05:51] <Scott_S> soc42: That's very odd, as that is the locale settings area... Let me check some more stuff then.
[05:51] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: but in my system, only 3 dget's were necessary:
[05:51] <johnjacobjingerh> localg0d, also i'm sure the messsage didnt say "it doesnt work"
[05:51] <johnjacobjingerh> it prob says what the issue is in the error
[05:51] <patrick99e99> MestreLion: https://gist.github.com/621b881ab1f04a9385ec
[05:51] <johnjacobjingerh> or at least gives u a clue
[05:51] <patrick99e99> I get all those warnings
[05:52] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: jbigkit-0, libtiff5 and imagemagick itself
[05:52] <johnjacobjingerh> but localg0d if you want to be owner of everything in that folder as well as the folder you need to use the -r flag
[05:52] <Scott_S> soc42: Is it because the locale you are looking for is not listed?
[05:52] <patrick99e99> and then tiff still says dpkg-checkbuilddeps: Unmet build dependencies: cdbs (>= 0.4.106~) libjbig-dev
[05:52] <johnjacobjingerh> soooo.... sudo chown -r localg0d /folder/location/here
[05:52] <localg0d> soo do u mind typing out the syntax / like / chown -r
[05:52] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: great, it worked... you may check that now you have some .debs in your build dir :)
[05:52] <localg0d> ahhh ok thank u !
[05:52] <Bustacap> How can I get the sound indicator back onto my taskbar?
[05:53] <bhavana> hi
[05:53] <patrick99e99> MestreLion: I do have some debs..
[05:53] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: you need to install those required .DEB
[05:53] <patrick99e99> so what do I do with the debs?
[05:53] <MestreLion> double-click them :)
[05:53] <soc42> if i type:  sudo locale-gen i can only find locales beginning with "en_..." like "en_US.UTF-8... up-to-date"
[05:53] <bhavana> how to find new  themes in drupal?
[05:54] <patrick99e99> MestreLion: I'm in a terminal.. no double clicking here
[05:54] <Scott_S> If you installing multiple: sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[05:54] <localg0d> it's sayng ambiguous or invalid argument johnjacobjingerh
[05:54] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: or, since you're already in command-line, sudo dpkg -i *deb
[05:54] <soc42> Scott_S: i guess i'll have to install additional ones first, but how?
[05:54] <Scott_S> soc42: One moment, I'll check.
[05:54] <patrick99e99> ok tiff now says dpkg-checkbuilddeps: Unmet build dependencies: cdbs (>= 0.4.106~)
[05:55] <openbees> bhavana : I think its Ubuntu channel .. try #Drupal :P
[05:55] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: sudo apt-get install cdbs
[05:55] <Scott_S> soc42: Under the 'Keyboard Layout' menu, there is a Plus (+) sign. Click on that to view a list of locales.
[05:55] <bhavana> k.thanku
[05:55] <johnjacobjingerh> sorry localg0d try -R
[05:55] <johnjacobjingerh> capital R not lowercase
[05:55] <Bustacap> How do I add to the taskbar panel? I tried alt+right click and I don't get the menu.
[05:56] <riqdiiz> while navigating must you types all the hirachy tree to the file you want to open?
[05:56] <wilee-nilee> Bustacap, You have unity?
[05:56] <soc42> Scott_S: oh wait... are your hints targeting Unity Desktop Environment? i am still in CLI mode, didn't install any X-Window yet
[05:56] <patrick99e99> MestreLion: sigh... that did not work..  And so I tried the dsc version of it
[05:56] <localg0d> no luck bro
[05:56] <patrick99e99> and now it tells me dpkg-checkbuilddeps: Unmet build dependencies: dh-buildinfo realpath python-dev python-all-dev python3-all-dev ant default-jdk sharutils
[05:56] <Bustacap> riqdiiz what is unity?
[05:56] <patrick99e99> this feels like it will never end
[05:56] <Scott_S> !unity
[05:56] <johnjacobjingerh> localg0d can u tell me what it says
[05:56] <johnjacobjingerh> ?
[05:57] <patrick99e99> trying to install those now...
[05:57] <Bustacap> I have whatever 12.04 has.
[05:57] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: the pattern is: install all dependencies, either using "apt-get build-dep <your package>" (easier, but may not be available), or "apt-get install <dep1> <dep2>.. ", or dget + build + dpkg (install) them
[05:57] <DaemonicApathy> riqdiiz: you can use * for some of the levels if you like
[05:57] <mha> ubottu, Bustacap: to see a Gnome 2 experience; Install Mate desktop... http://mate-desktop.org/
[05:57] <mha> Scott_S: ^ :]
[05:57] <DaemonicApathy> e.g. cd /*/*/*/file
[05:58] <johnjacobjingerh> also the other thing to note is if the file or folder is on an NTFS drive i dont think it will work with Unix/Linux permissions, but perhaps someone can correct me if i am mistaken
[05:58] <wilee-nilee> Bustacap, 12.04 doesn't have add ons for the top panel, there are ppa's that have apps that wil show there though.
[05:58] <Scott_S> mha: Someone asked what Unity was, I used Ubottu to answer.
[05:58] <orlok> Can anybody tell me exactly what requirements libpasswordqc needs to be satisfied?
[05:58] <mha> aha
[05:58] <orlok> I cant see a config file or similar for it
[05:58] <zymaster> extra info. If I plug in headphones I have no problem so its just for my speakers.
[05:58] <thesadmafioso1> does anyone know if when downloading updates from official repositories if the connections are through SSL or otherwise secure?
[05:58] <klaxtr> sorry got disconected
[05:59] <mha> klaxtr: we still love you.
[05:59] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: this may be a pain, but it is expected. you said you have a vanilla VM install, and ubuntu has very few development packages out-of the box. but whenever you see "unmet dependencies: a b c", you simply "apt-get install a b c"
[05:59] <orlok> libppasswdqc, even
[05:59] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: copy and paste the list
[05:59] <thesadmafioso1> mha: haha
[05:59] <riqdiiz> will it land you to the target ?
[05:59] <johnjacobjingerh> thesadmafioso1, i believe it depends on the repo but if they start with https then it is ssl
[05:59] <localg0d> johnjacobjingerh, thanks but it ain't working im going to bed .. ill ask again tmro when im more wide awake bro
[05:59] <patrick99e99> MestreLion: got it...  its 78% done
[05:59] <DaemonicApathy> riqdiiz: It always works for me.
[05:59] <klaxtr> mha: aww thanx but who are you
[05:59] <mha> thesadmafioso1: the packages distributed are signed.
[05:59] <Scott_S> Sorry guys, I want to help more, but I've gotta get some sleep. :) Work in the morning. Best of luck to all.
[05:59] <thesadmafioso1> johnjacobjingerh: yeah, that's what got me wondering because I noticed some ppa's are just HTTP
[05:59] <mha> thesadmafioso1: man apt-key
[06:00] <klaxtr> show me some love and tell me how to autohide the unity panel
[06:00] <wilee-nilee> thesadmafioso1, The repos are secure.
[06:00] <wilee-nilee> ubuntu's anyway
[06:00] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: some packages have the same dependencies in both quantal and precise... some require you to install a few.. and some, a lot... you're just unluck that imagemagick changed so much in the last 6 months :P
[06:00] <johnjacobjingerh> then they are not ssl
[06:00] <klaxtr> my heart made out of a robot will thank you
[06:00] <johnjacobjingerh> thesadmafioso1, does it matter though?
[06:00] <kunji> Scott_S: thanks for taking a quick stab at the Cairo stuff, I know it gets complicated and you were trying to help others at the same time, sleep well
[06:00] <thesadmafioso1> mha:now I think I see why I couldn't see those PPA keys I grabbed in my typical list using GPG
[06:00] <DaemonicApathy> klaxtr: Which version of Ubuntu?
[06:00] <kunji> lol... just missed him
[06:00] <patrick99e99> MestreLion: ok done!
[06:01] <klaxtr> 12.04
[06:01] <patrick99e99> so now I go back and do the imagemagick dsc ?
[06:01] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: have you installed the .DEBs you have just built?
[06:01] <DaemonicApathy> klaxtr: System Settings>Appearance>Behavior, select Autohide
[06:01] <DaemonicApathy> Rather, turn it on.
[06:01] <thesadmafioso1> johnjacobjingerh: well, yes, it does to me for several reasons
[06:01] <mha> Finally got 3.6.3 built with tresor + grsecurity, and got virtualbox to play along. whi.
[06:02] <patrick99e99> MestreLion: MestreLion the only debs I see are the ones I already had installed..  jbigkit, libjbig
[06:02] <johnjacobjingerh> thesadmafioso1, i'm curious to know why it matters if it's SSL or not
[06:02] <JamoBox> Hey guys, I've just used wubi to install ubuntu alongside windows on my PC, but when I try and select ubuntu from WIndows Boot Manager, a black screen shows saying that windows could not boot properly. Is there a way to get rid of this? I can't start ubuntu up because of it.
[06:02] <johnjacobjingerh> they are just repos... it's not like u're sending ur credit card number :-P
[06:02] <klaxtr> i mean the pannel on top where the time is
[06:02] <thesadmafioso1> johnjacbojingerh: it's more because I'm interested in privacy and security
[06:02] <wilee-nilee> JamoBox, Wubi is a inside of windows install.
[06:02] <DaemonicApathy> klaxtr: Ah, sorry about that. I don't think it's an option with Unity.
[06:03] <msx> hi everybody! does any1 been able to run 12.10 on a virtualbox VM _and_ make the virtualbox extensions work? so far 12.04 works as expected (also all previous releases) but i can't make the new bird work so far :P
[06:03] <johnjacobjingerh> thesadmafioso1, ummm... you dont pass anything to them so it isnt unsecure
[06:03] <johnjacobjingerh> u only retrieve information
[06:03] <patrick99e99> MestreLion: so...  How do I tell this imagemagick dsc to use the libtiff5-dev I installed already?
[06:03] <johnjacobjingerh> it's not like it contains anything "private" if you will
[06:03] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: it will try them automatically
[06:03] <JamoBox> wilee-nilee: Yeah, I select ubuntu from WBM but I just get an error saying that windows didn't boot; it's like its cockblocking ubuntu from starting up
[06:03] <klaxtr> thanx DaemonicApathy
[06:04] <thesadmafioso1> johnjacobjingerh: they're still passing things to you though . . . and who knows who's sitting in between the two of you?
[06:04] <johnjacobjingerh> yes but it contains nothing private
[06:04] <wilee-nilee> JamoBox, Please do not use that language.
[06:04] <patrick99e99> MestreLion: ummm... that imagemagick dsc still gives me "dpkg-checkbuilddeps: Unmet build dependencies: libtiff5-dev"
[06:04] <patrick99e99> same as before
[06:04] <klaxtr> mha : you see no love from unity to us... we are nothing, nothing at all
[06:04] <JamoBox> wilee-nilee: Sorry, only term I could think of to describe it
[06:04] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: actually, it's the other way around: the dsc file tells you that it requires libtiff5-dev to be installed. And since you just built and installed it, it should work
[06:04] <johnjacobjingerh> so all it sees is u requested a page
[06:04] <thesadmafioso1> johnjacobjingerh: right but it could contain something malicious or have something malicious injected into it on its way
[06:04] <patrick99e99> MestreLion: so-- what do I do now?
[06:04] <johnjacobjingerh> essentially
[06:05] <johnjacobjingerh> so could HTTPS
[06:05] <thesadmafioso1> johnjacobjingerh: as improbable as that is
[06:05] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: are you sure you installed libtiff5-dev's .deb ?
[06:05] <johnjacobjingerh> https doesnt stop something from being malicious
[06:05] <patrick99e99> MestreLion: I don't have a libtiff5 deb
[06:05] <JamoBox> wilee-nilee: But any ideas how to stop it from preventing ubuntu loading? It's like it doesn't want any OS other than windows running
[06:05] <johnjacobjingerh> it stops people on your network from sniffing the traffic tho
[06:05] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: have you tried to build it?
[06:05] <johnjacobjingerh> like if you were entering a username and password for example it'd block that
[06:06] <johnjacobjingerh> but none of those repos require you to do that
[06:06] <johnjacobjingerh> anyone can put malicious stuff on https as well
[06:06] <thesadmafioso1> johnjacobjingerh: yes, I'm aware that it only stops people from sniffing packets/traffic
[06:06] <patrick99e99> MestreLion: what do you mean?
[06:06] <wilee-nilee> thesadmafioso1, Like what is going to be injected, your just using a as if argument, this has never happened, and it is off topic.
[06:07] <thesadmafioso1> wilee-nilee: I never asserted that I was using it for anything other than the sake of argument.
[06:07] <patrick99e99> when I searched for libtiff5 on the packages list, it gave me tiff_4.0.02
[06:07] <soc42> Scott_S: to change the default keyboard to match your local keyboard, use:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration
[06:07] <johnjacobjingerh> thesadmafioso1, i think you are overly worried (like the risk is non-existent), but if you are concerned, by all means change them to have https:// instead of http
[06:07] <thesadmafioso1> wilee-nilee: purely hypothetical and just something I was WONDERING about.
[06:07] <patrick99e99> which I installed.. but I never got a deb
[06:07] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: since there is no libtiff5-dev in precise, you need to dget (and build, and install) its .dsc, the same way you did with libjbig0
[06:07] <wilee-nilee> thesadmafioso1, It is offtopic take it to #ubuntu-offtopic ;)
[06:07] <johnjacobjingerh> then make sure they actually work
[06:07] <thesadmafioso1> wilee-nilee: ha, ok. didn't know about that.
[06:07] <patrick99e99> MestreLion: yeah I did that
[06:08] <patrick99e99> but like I said:
[06:08] <patrick99e99> http://packages.ubuntu.com/quantal/libtiff5-dev
[06:08] <johnjacobjingerh> no way of knowing if the server has https or not
[06:08] <patrick99e99> on the right side it gives me tiff_4.0.2-1ubuntu2.dsc
[06:08] <patrick99e99> which I installed with dget
[06:08] <johnjacobjingerh> but anyhoo... moving on before i get yelled at
[06:08] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: no problem
[06:08] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: ok, did dget output any error? it was supposed to generate some debs
[06:09] <soc42> Scott_S: now all keystrokes showup in CLI as expected – what certainly helps a lot - much better than guessing ;o)
[06:10] <JamoBox> So anyone have any ideas about my problem? I get an error message at WBM when I try and load ubuntu saying that "windows did not load"; and the error blocks me from trying to get onto ubuntu
[06:11] <MestreLion> WBM?
[06:11] <thesadmafioso1> ok well thanks all for the advice on an upgrade
[06:11] <JamoBox> Windows Boot Manager
[06:11] <MestreLion> oh, Wubi... eww :P
[06:11] <JamoBox> Yeah :l
[06:11] <Boston> Hey how do i get on other servers??
[06:12] <MestreLion> Boston: care to be more specific?
[06:13] <Boston> im not gonna lie im completley new to xchat
[06:14] <MestreLion> Boston: you can join another channel with /j #channelname
[06:14] <MestreLion> as in /j #xchat
[06:14] <patrick99e99> MestreLion: yes.. apparently its complaining about cdbs again
[06:14] <andrewaclt> Boston, ctrl-t to open a new server tab and then type /server server.com
[06:14] <MestreLion> folks there can help you with all other xchat issues
[06:14] <MestreLion> andrewaclt: wow, nice hint :D
[06:15] <Boston> like irc.trolol.net
[06:15] <MestreLion> i always used Xchat > Network List > Add ... etc
[06:15] <johnjacobjingerh> i'm from boston
[06:15] <johnjacobjingerh> lol
[06:16] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: check the version you have installed against the one required
[06:16] <andrewaclt> Well, sure, if you add it via the gui then it's persistent and you don't have to do it manually
[06:16] <Boston> ha my friends call me Boston because I always wear a boston redsoxs hat
[06:16] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: apt-cache policy cdbs
[06:16] <johnjacobjingerh> oh... i'm sorry then... should prob take it off about now
[06:16] <johnjacobjingerh> they are doing terrible
[06:17] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: if the required version is greater than the one installed... you know what to do :P
[06:17] <ferlegend> hey
[06:18] <ferlegend> i Have a question
[06:19] <ferlegend> community in Guatemala we are thinking of doing a translation for that ubuntu is also available in our most lenjuages
[06:19] <ferlegend> my question is
[06:19] <ferlegend> how i can do this
[06:22] <klaxtr> do what?
[06:22] <patrick99e99> MestreLion: https://gist.github.com/5f49d0aaf0b427eee70c
[06:23] <InstantKrimson> ferlegend: I don't know much about this, but you can start checking this out: http://www.ubuntu.com/community/get-involved/non-technical-users
[06:23] <patrick99e99> what do I know what to do?
[06:23] <somsip> ferlegend: this might help: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/KnowledgeBase
[06:23] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: you have cdbs 0.4.100ubuntu2, you need  cdbs (>= 0.4.106~)
[06:24] <patrick99e99> MestreLion: right..
[06:24] <Dan39> hello i have ubuntu 12.04 server from ovh. it seems they have BIND installed and running by default.. do i really need this installed? i run some basic websites with apache2, dont think i need BIND, and it takes while to startup on boot :|
[06:24] <patrick99e99> but I just tried to dget [cdbs_0.4.111ubuntu1.dsc]
[06:24] <patrick99e99> and it's not doing anything..
[06:25] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: hint: quantal's cdbs is 0.4.111 ;)
[06:25] <ferlegend> thank you very much interesting is that it is one of our projects here in Guatemala
[06:25] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: paste the command and output
[06:25] <patrick99e99> I did.. it's in that gist
[06:26] <patrick99e99> https://gist.github.com/5f49d0aaf0b427eee70c
[06:26] <johnjacobjingerh> Dan39 it's a dns server
[06:26] <ferlegend> somsip if the project is to translate esque entire operating system
[06:26] <johnjacobjingerh> Dan39, do u use your server as a dns server ?
[06:26] <Dan39> johnjacobjingerh: yes i kinda know what it is..
[06:26] <soc42> i am watching a video on the ubuntu HUD feature... looks a lot like 'Alfred' for Mac
[06:26] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: you forgot to install it
[06:27] <Dan39> no i dont think so
[06:27] <soc42> if your totally new to ubuntu, which x-window manager would you suggest?
[06:27] <johnjacobjingerh> Dan39 then probably dont need it
[06:28] <Dan39> ill just disable it first
[06:28] <johnjacobjingerh> Soc45 X-Window manager?
[06:28] <Dan39> anything bad happens i can just re-enable :P
[06:28] <soc42> what are the main differences between gnome, kde, lxde, xfce, unity etc... ?
[06:28] <johnjacobjingerh> u mean desktop environment soc42 ?
[06:28] <patrick99e99> MestreLion: oh... another deb...
[06:28] <soc42> or is just a matter of personal habits
[06:28] <johnjacobjingerh> they all look different and it's a matter of which u like
[06:28] <MestreLion> soc42: if one is totally new to ubuntu, I would suggest not messing with x-window managers and use the default until you're not totally new to ubuntu :)
[06:28] <soc42> johnjacobjingerh: yup, desktop environments...
[06:28] <johnjacobjingerh> XFCE is very light weight
[06:28] <johnjacobjingerh> unity is apart of GNOME
[06:28] <Dan39> very? i dunno about very, but its pretty light weight :p
[06:28] <johnjacobjingerh> GNOME reminds me of the older classic macs
[06:29] <johnjacobjingerh> but KDE kinda resembles windows (at least when I used it)
[06:29] <johnjacobjingerh> i prefer GNOME over the rest
[06:29] <Dan39> unity is piece of junk IMO
[06:29] <johnjacobjingerh> but XFCE is great if u have old hardware
[06:29] <johnjacobjingerh> i dont like unity
[06:29] <johnjacobjingerh> i use GNOME classic
[06:29] <Dan39> go with KDE :P
[06:29] <Dan39> or xfce
[06:29] <johnjacobjingerh> yuck
[06:29] <johnjacobjingerh> on KDE
[06:29] <Dan39> :|
[06:30] <johnjacobjingerh> i just used it and hated it
[06:30] <johnjacobjingerh> switched back to gnome
[06:30] <Dan39> i swear i recall 5 years ago gnome and kde working much better, but o well
[06:30] <MestreLion> soc42: using virtual machines or multi-boot you can easily try them all. They all serve the same purpose: to manage your desktop environment, so take a look at each (and use each for a day or a week) then stick with the one that most pleases you
[06:30] <johnjacobjingerh> gnome most pleases you soc42 trust me
[06:31] <MestreLion> johnjacobjingerh: gnome is great, but why trust you if he can play with them all by himself?
[06:31] <soc42> johnjacobjingerh: hehe, i am always open for critics & suggestions
[06:31] <johnjacobjingerh> i dont have a good reason
[06:31] <johnjacobjingerh> but i know i should be trusted
[06:31] <MestreLion> soc42: install them all and try by yourself
[06:32] <junior> hi
[06:32] <soc42> MestreLion: i will, that's a really good hint
[06:32] <MestreLion> soc42: use a virtual box, or install in different partitions
[06:32] <johnjacobjingerh> actually u dont even need a virtual machine or multi-boot
[06:32] <johnjacobjingerh> u can install them all and select them at the login session
[06:33] <johnjacobjingerh> i have KDE and GNOME on mine
[06:33] <MestreLion> johnjacobjingerh: i never tried this approach... do they all play nicely when installed togheter?
[06:33] <johnjacobjingerh> yea
[06:33] <junior> @MestreLion ola
[06:33] <johnjacobjingerh> they play fine
[06:33] <MestreLion> I always think it will create a huge mess :)
[06:33] <johnjacobjingerh> eh.. they can be a pain to remove sometimes
[06:34] <johnjacobjingerh> and they do take up space
[06:34] <MestreLion> space is not an issue... it's far less than separate distro installs
[06:34] <johnjacobjingerh> yea
[06:35] <johnjacobjingerh> but seeing that they are harder to remove than virutal machines it might be easier to use a VM
[06:35] <Hootch> hey, how can i show the desktop with kde? shortcut?
[06:36] <patrick99e99> MestreLion: ok its actually installing!!!
[06:36] <patrick99e99> (imagemagick)
[06:36] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: congratulations :D
[06:36] <patrick99e99> MestreLion: my question now is--  how do I make sure the previous 6.7.5 version I installed with configure/make/make install doesn't get run?
[06:37] <johnjacobjingerh> remove it
[06:37] <DaemonicApathy> patrick99e99: Uninstall it.
[06:37] <johnjacobjingerh> lol
[06:37] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: this whole workflow may be a pain, but its MUCH more secure and stable in many ways than using upstream source
[06:37] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: depends on how did you install it. you may try "sudo make uninstall" and pray it there is an uninstall
[06:38] <MestreLion> that's why I rarely install tuff this way... there's no way to guarantee a clean removal
[06:38] <soc42> at least i see one blink of red marked [fails] in the bootup screen, but it's going away too fast...
[06:38] <MestreLion> the .DEB way is the most trouble free way :)
[06:38] <soc42> how do i know what's going on there?
[06:39] <DaemonicApathy> soc42: check your system logs
[06:39] <MestreLion> soc42: soc42: actually, I suggest separate partitions... ok, it's not as easy as VMs, but VM is not your actual hardware, so your experience may not be the same as with a real install
[06:40] <MestreLion> soc42: for example, Unity requires 3D, and in a VM it may fallback to the 2D version... same may happen with other desktops
[06:41] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: to check out which version is running, try any of imagemagic's commands with --version
[06:41] <soc42> MestreLion: i see, the Desktop Environments depends heavily on graphic card, OpenGL features etc...
[06:42] <patrick99e99> MestreLion: yeah.. waiting for it to finish installing
[06:42] <MestreLion> soc42: exactly... and in a VM you don't have those (or have to configure them). So for a fair test trial you may install each in its own, real partition.. and multiboot
[06:44] <soc42> is ext4-fs the default filesystem on ubuntu?
[06:45] <Jordan_U> soc42: Yes.
[06:45] <MestreLion> since 2010
[06:45] <soc42> the blinking bootup fail was 'EXT4-fs (sda1): re-mounted. Opts: errprs=remount-ro"
[06:45] <soc42> -p+o
[06:46] <MestreLion> soc42: there may have erros in that hard drive...
[06:46] <soc42> but it's a VM?
[06:47] <MestreLion> maybe the VM file is corrupted?
[06:48] <soc42> mmmh... it's a totally fresh install... i hope you're wrong ;o)
[06:49] <MestreLion> it's really weird for a freshly created VM to re-mount a partition due to errors
[06:49] <Jordan_U> soc42: Boot from a LiveCD and fsck the filesystem.
[06:51] <voldyman> i need to auto mount a ntfs partition in the home folder and be able to compile projects.
[06:51] <voldyman> can anyone help me with the fstab file statement ?
[06:51] <bin_bash> !ask | voldyman
[06:52] <voldyman> bin_bash, i asked the question. :-)
[06:52] <Jordan_U> voldyman: What type of projects? Many build systems probably depend on POSIX semantics which aren't available when using ntfs.
[06:52] <bin_bash> that's not specific
[06:52] <voldyman> i have vala projects
[06:53] <voldyman> vala compiles to c and c to binary
[06:53] <voldyman> Jordan_U, i use cmake
[06:55] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: I'm curious.. did it work?
[06:55] <patrick99e99> MestreLion: still installing....
[06:55] <patrick99e99> sooo slow
[06:56] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: installing or building?
[06:56] <patrick99e99> installing
[06:56] <MestreLion> voldyman: don't use ntfs partitions to compile linux projects...
[06:56] <dat-lewis> Hey, can anyone help me: Our 12.04 Server loses connection on a daily basis (mainly at night) but I can't find anything in the log files..
[06:57] <voldyman> MestreLion, i need to. ubuntu is installed in a 8 gig usb disk which is getting full so i have to keep the heavier files on the ntfs disk
[06:57] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: weird... compile may take several minutes... but install is usually very fast... is there any relevant output?
[06:58] <MestreLion> voldyman: source code files are usually not heavy
[06:58] <MestreLion> voldyman: use ntfs for platform-independent files like images, music and videos
[06:58] <voldyman> MestreLion, but many projects = many files = many images/data = heavy
[06:59] <voldyman> MestreLion, i already have all my music and videos on the ntfs partition
[06:59] <MestreLion> or, if your build system allows it, use a temp build dir, outside of source code dir, for compiling
[07:00] <Ob1-W4n> hi, im having a weird issue, looked in some forums but couldnt find anything
[07:00] <crimsonmane> dat-lewis: modem/router issue?
[07:00] <voldyman> MestreLion, isn't there a way to mount the ntfs partition with exec permissions
[07:00] <patrick99e99> MestreLion: sigh.. failure
[07:00] <dat-lewis> crim: no thats not a problem, this machine is a guest on a qemu host. all other machines are running fine
[07:01] <MestreLion> voldyman: that said, the line I use for my ntfs data partition is this: LABEL=DADOS                      /dados                 ntfs   defaults,umask=002,uid=1000,gid=plugdev         0  0
[07:01] <JavaDog> anybody in?
[07:01] <patrick99e99> MestreLion: https://gist.github.com/164f7753a8beb3515dc5
[07:01] <Ob1-W4n> for w/e reason i cant delete things from my desktop, like if i make a folder there, i cant del it right afterwards, the only way i can del it is if i open it as root and del in the file browser or rm -rf from the terminal :/
[07:01] <JavaDog> Hello every,this is my first time to use IRC
[07:01] <JavaDog> so cool
[07:02] <bin_bash> lol
[07:02] <patrick99e99> why does it say its not configured?
[07:02] <voldyman> MestreLion, i'll reboot
[07:02] <MestreLion> imagemagick depends on hicolor-icon-theme; however:
[07:02] <MestreLion>   Package hicolor-icon-theme is not installed.
[07:02] <patrick99e99> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh
[07:02] <bin_bash> JavaDog, did you need help with somwething
[07:02] <patrick99e99> when will it ever stop?
[07:03] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: just read the output... :)
[07:03] <JavaDog> not yet
[07:04] <patrick99e99> MestreLion: ok I installed that.. and ran the dpkg -i *deb again
[07:04] <patrick99e99> no errors
[07:04] <patrick99e99> but.. convert gives me "no such file or directory"
[07:04] <patrick99e99> oh
[07:04] <patrick99e99> its a path issue
[07:04] <bin_bash> DINGDINGDING
[07:04] <MestreLion> convert --version to make sure you're using the new version
[07:05] <Jordan_U> Ob1-W4n: Please pastebin the output of "mkdir ~/Desktop/this_is_only_a_test/ && rmdir /Desktop/this_is_only_a_test/"
[07:06] <patrick99e99> Version: ImageMagick 6.7.7-10
[07:06] <patrick99e99> wooo hoooooooooooooo
[07:07] <Ob1-W4n> http://pastebin.com/Z6F02Dte
[07:07] <jt__> hello ppl
[07:08] <somsip> Ob1-W4n: missing ~ in rmdir
[07:08] <jt__> i cant use startup manager in precise amd64
[07:08] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: Congratulations :D Wow, that was a wild ride, wasn't it? ;)
[07:08] <Ob1-W4n> hmm, sry i just copied and pasted
[07:09] <patrick99e99> yes
[07:09] <Ob1-W4n> yea worked, nuthing came back
[07:09] <Ob1-W4n> so it must of made/deleted
[07:10] <Ob1-W4n> but i was always able to del from terminal, just couldnt do it from the desktop
[07:10] <MestreLion> patrick99e99: this may be much harder than a simple ./configure && make && sudo make install, but it has 2 HUGE advantages: 1) you get all the patches and changes Ubuntu team did to imagemagick (so its more stable and trusted instaall)
[07:11] <MestreLion> and 2) everything you installed is registered in your package manager, meaning software center (and apt-get) will be aware of it. So new versions that may appear will handle them nicely
[07:11] <voldyman> MestreLion, it WORKED!!
[07:11] <voldyman> thanks
[07:13] <robertzaccour> I've got guvcview set on 30 fps but its recording 20 at the most usually a little less. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance.
[07:13] <MestreLion> voldyman: the mount works, sure. But really... do not build ubuntu software in an ntfs partition
[07:13] <Calinou> robertzaccour: what are you recording?
[07:13] <voldyman> MestreLion, i am currently building abiword. make is running fine. so why not??
[07:14] <Calinou> if you're recording opengl apps, your graphics card should be fast enough to render the app quickly WHILE recording
[07:14] <robertzaccour> Calinou, guvcview is a webcam program that takes photos and records video.
[07:14] <MestreLion> voldyman: is it using a different build dir?
[07:14] <Calinou> so, is it recording from a webcam? then the webcam might not just record 30fps
[07:14] <himanshu_linux> hi ..
[07:14] <bin_bash> h
[07:15] <voldyman> MestreLion, it is in /media/Data/abiword/ and i am building there
[07:15] <robertzaccour> Calinou, I thought the software controlled the webcam.
[07:15] <himanshu_linux> hi ..
[07:15] <Calinou> some webcams can reach 30fps but most of them only go to 25 or 20fps
[07:15] <MestreLion> voldyman: you may notice that *all* files there have the +x attribute.... and when compiling software, that is simply wrong :P
[07:16] <voldyman> oh :-)
[07:16] <voldyman> MestreLion, why can't i change the permissions??
[07:16] <MestreLion> voldyman: because an ntfs partition has no unix permissions :P
[07:17] <voldyman> :(
[07:17] <kunji> MestreLion: umm... is that actually relevant while compiling though, why should the compiler be using the permissions?
[07:17] <MestreLion> kunji: it will not *use* them, but it will generate "executables" for all files
[07:18] <himanshu_linux> I am using USB modem for internet. the problem is that, after every 1 hour it disconnects automatically .  this does not happened when i used to use win7 . any solution ?
[07:18] <Calinou> why do you use an USB modem?
[07:18] <MestreLion> executable man pages, /etc config files, and so on :)
[07:18] <Calinou> inb4 winmodem
[07:18] <kunji> MestreLion: Hmm, the hell?  You mean in conjunction with a poorly written makefile?
[07:19] <MestreLion> kunji: I mean in conjunction with building in an ntfs partition :P
[07:19] <Ob1-W4n> so is there something else i can test ?
[07:20] <kunji> MestreLion: hmm, I guess I could use an explanation of why it matters if they're executable or not, considering that .c and .cpp files are not executable anyway.
[07:20] <kunji> Nor are object files
[07:20] <somsip> Ob1-W4n: what is your end goal?
[07:20] <bin_bash> somsip, to bring balance to the force
[07:21] <Ob1-W4n> to be able to right click a file/folder i had just made on my desktop and select "send to trash" lol
[07:21] <somsip> Ob1-W4n: can't help then, sorry
[07:21] <MestreLion> kunji: not sure if it *really* matters, but the point is: *all* files in an netfs partition are executable files (or none are)
[07:21] <JavaDog> which channel's theme is program design?
[07:21] <Ob1-W4n> why not? is that normal
[07:21] <Ob1-W4n> lol
[07:22] <kunji> MestreLion: yeah, permissions just don't exit on NTFS, I certainly won't dispute that
[07:22] <kunji> *exist
[07:22] <MestreLion> kunji: if not having permissions is relevant or not for compiling, I'm not sure... may depend on the build system used
[07:23] <MestreLion> but I would not like a "make install" to copy executable files to /usr/share/man or /etc
[07:23] <kunji> MestreLion: yeah, that's what I was trying to get at, it might even be possible to consider it a bug in a way :P
[07:24] <MestreLion> kunji: bug how? thats how ntfs-3g works
[07:24] <gabkdlly> himanshu_linux, hi,  did you try searching for the make of your USB device and the word "linux" or "ubuntu"
[07:25] <kunji> MestreLion: that the compiler would need to use file permissions, if it does.  Actually the install part could very well be the problem rather than the compiling part
[07:25] <MestreLion> kunji: the install may assume that permissions exists... not only executable, but user, group, setuig bits, etc
[07:26] <kunji> MestreLion: yeah, that I could see being that case
[07:26] <kunji> ^_^
[07:26] <himanshu_linux> gabkdlly : i am new . can you tell me where to find it ?
[07:27] <gabkdlly> himanshu_linux, take a look at your device. is there anything written on it ? The name of the manufacurer, a model number ?
[07:28] <kunji> himanshu_linux: try pluggin in the usb (if plugged, else remove and put back in), then run "dmesg | grep usb"  Will probably give you some info to work with.
[07:28] <bazhang> himanshu_linux, the output of lsusb to paste.ubuntu.com
[07:31] <himanshu_linux> bazhang : output of lsusb .. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1301983/
[07:31] <kunji> himanshu_linux: maybe the conents of your syslog as well (it's at /var/log/syslog)
[07:31] <kunji> *contents
[07:33] <bazhang> himanshu_linux, whats the brand of usb modem: avago, sunplus, or something else
[07:33] <himanshu_linux> gabkdlly : manufacture - micromax ,model - MMX352G
[07:33] <himanshu_linux> bazhang : manufacture - micromax ,model - MMX352G
[07:35] <athon> i have an ubuntu 12.04 server with eth1 eth2 and when i make bridging the other pc of the network connects succesfully on the internet but the server no internet...any idea?
[07:35] <bazhang> http://askubuntu.com/questions/146348/micromax-usb-modem-model-mmx-352g-not-recognized-in-ubuntu-10-04-lts  himanshu_linux
[07:35] <jalexandru> I can't boot my computer, I tried to install centos, had issues installing it, now I try to run ubuntu 12.04 from usb and all I get is grub rescue, can anybody help?
 please chk ur ram and hdd condition
[07:37] <MestreLion> jalexandru: boot using ubuntu's live CD/USB, then in terminal: sudo grub-install sda1
[07:38] <Jordan_U> jalexandru: How did you create the Ubuntu 12.04 USB? Are you sure that your BIOS is actually booting from USB and not your internal drive?
[07:38] <Jordan_U> MestreLion: That advice is wrong in multiple ways.
[07:38] <MestreLion> Jordan_U: true, I completely misread the question
[07:38] <Shazer[2]> Hey guys
[07:38] <Shazer[2]> My Ubuntu keeps crashing, but I have no idea why...
[07:38] <jalexandru> MestreLion: I can't boot from ubuntu live usb .... it's not booting it gives me grub rescue,  Kallol how can I chk my ram and hdd? Jordan_u: yes I'm sure I set up bios to boot from usb
[07:38] <Shazer[2]> Is there any logs I can have checked?
[07:39] <Jordan_U> MestreLion: grub's boot sector should also be installed to the MBR, not to a partition, and when running grub-install from a LiveCD/USB environment you need to first mount the Ubuntu partition and either chroot in or pass an apropriate --boot-directory argument to grub-install.
[07:40] <MestreLion> jalexandru: forget what I said... I misread your question and assumed you wanted to restore an *hdd* ubuntu install
[07:41] <jalexandru> Jordan_u: i tried to create the usb stick using startup Disk creator and netbootin
[07:42] <Jordan_U> jalexandru: Both of those tools use syslinux rather than grub, so it's basically impossible for you to be getting a grub rescue shell if you're booting from a USB drive prepared with either of those tools. My guess is that your BIOS is failing to boot from USB and is falling back to trying to boot from the internal drive.
[07:43] <athon> i have an ubuntu 12.04 server with eth1 eth2 and when i make bridging the other pc of the network connects succesfully on the internet through server but the server no internet...any idea?
[07:43] <Jordan_U> jalexandru: Actually, there is one possible way, if your firmware uses UEFI. Do you know if it does?
[07:44] <jalexandru> Jordan_U: I see your point, could I have broken anything in bios while trying to install centos? I don't know anything about UEFI
[07:45] <Jordan_U> jalexandru: No, you can't really break a BIOS by doing anything in software.
[07:47] <himanshu_linux> kunji : here is /var/log/syslog .. http://pastebin.com/GDj3TcCk
[07:47] <somsip> Jordan_U: except for a flash upgrade failing to complete properly (IME), though maybe this is off thread as I've not been foloowing
[07:48] <benxyzzy> Can I just edit /etc/crontab and it'll work, or do I need to reload anything etc
[07:50] <Jordan_U> somsip: Indeed, I did think of that and decided to (over) simplify my statement anyway. A more accurate statement would be that no part of the process of installing CENTOS will attempt to flash new firmware or do anything else which could affect the BIOS, nor would that ever be something you could do without clear intention.
[07:51] <somsip> Jordan_U: fair dues - like I said, I've not been following context of the thread so I'll step back again
[07:56] <bhuey> Is there any planned fix for the upgrade problems with the desktop not working ?
[07:56] <savio> how can is encrypt my home directory
[07:56] <bin_bash> bhuey, what
[07:57] <bhuey> last time I was here there was some kind of problem with Unity and the window manager crashing. I've noticed this on my machine
[07:57] <bhuey> even with new accounts
[07:57] <bin_bash> bhuey, have you considered installing a better desktop environment and window manager?
[07:57] <savio> bhuey, which desktop you are using?
[07:57] <bhuey> uh, the Unity stuff should work and I don't feel the need to move to another system
[07:57] <bhuey> default stuff
[07:58] <bhuey> probably gnome-session
[07:58] <bhuey> and Unity
[07:58] <bhuey> it use to all work before the upgrade and I've talked to folks here about others having the same kind of problems
[07:59] <kamil_> Issue with sound setting not opening anymore
[07:59] <kamil_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1302014/
[07:59] <kamil_> This is the out of running gnome-control-center through terminal
[08:00] <kamil_> output*
[08:00] <Frink_> Should I defrag my EXT4?
[08:00] <kamil_> Frink_: Nope
[08:00] <somsip> !defrag | Frink
[08:00] <rameshwor> where can i find the md5sum of the ubuntu 64 bit  12.10 iso ?
[08:01] <qiou> ????
[08:01] <Frink_> If I shouldn't defrag EXT4 then what is HDD Ranger in the Software Centre for?
[08:02] <qiou> 能用中文不？
[08:02] <rameshwor> i want to check integrity of the downloaded ISO file , how do i do that ?
[08:02] <somsip> !zh | qiou
[08:02] <kamil_> rameshwor: do "md5sum then path to the iso"
[08:02] <krababbel> rameshwor: google it, it seems a bit hidden, it is on their download server
[08:02] <qiou> ／join #ubuntu-cn
[08:02] <rameshwor> kamil_ : and the correct md5sum of the file , can be found at ?
[08:03] <kamil_> go the download page
[08:03] <kamil_> and get it from there
[08:03] <kamil_> http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.10/
[08:04] <rameshwor> thanks, got it  here =>  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[08:05] <zhanglang> hi!
[08:05] <Frink_> Can anyone tell me why this is in the software Centre? https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/hdd-ranger/
[08:06] <Jordan_U> Frink_: Because people who incorrectly think that they need to defrag will pay $8.00 for a utility that will do so, despite the fact that ext4 rarely gets signifigant fragmentation and there are Free tools for defragging it in the rare cases that it does (like if you keep your filesystem at 95% full and add and delete many large and small files).
[08:07] <zhanglang> 大家好！
[08:07] <Frink_> Jordan_U: So, in other words, there is no quality control in the Software Centre.
[08:07] <qiou> 你好。。。。。
[08:07] <Jordan_U> Frink_: Given those Free tools don't have a nice GUI (and I would guess that HDD Ranger is just a front end for them).
[08:08] <zhanglang> 第一次玩这个聊天，不太会，请大家包涵
[08:09] <qiou> 我也是。。。。。
[08:10] <Jordan_U> qiou: "/join #ubuntu-cn" not "／join #ubuntu-cn"
[08:10] <zhanglang> 终于有一个讲汉语的
[08:10] <zhanglang> qiou你好
[08:11] <Jordan_U> !cn | zhanglang
[08:11] <qiou> 你好。。。这里是什么情况。。。。
[08:12] <zhanglang> 在哪输入？
[08:12] <somsip> qiou: zhanglang 请私下交谈。这个地方是支持
[08:12] <bazhang> zhanglang, qiou English here
[08:12] <bazhang> zhanglang, qiou #ubuntu-cn for Chinese NOT here
[08:14] <Jordan_U> bazhang: somsip: At least qiou tried to follow ubottu's instructions to "/join #ubuntu" but instead used a similar forward slash character with "／join #ubuntu-cn" which clearly won't work. If you could explain that it might help.
[08:14] <zhanglang>  /join #ubuntu-cn
[08:20]  * MestreLion is reading that "HDD Ranger" description.. I wonder how a defrag can "also extend your harddisk life."
[08:22] <MestreLion> and wow... theres not even a native 64-bit version
[08:23] <Jordan_U> MestreLion: Theoretically by preventing seeks, which theoretically cause more wear than contiguous reads.
[08:23] <alex88> hi guys, how can i install the libvips-dev pre-requisites without installing the package? because i want to have the dependencies but compiling via source to get the latest version
[08:25] <MestreLion> alex88:  sudo apt-get build-dep libvips-dev
[08:26] <alex88> MestreLion: oh great, thank you!
[08:26] <MestreLion> alex88: but this will install the dependencies of current version, and the lastest version dependencies might be different
[08:26] <alex88> MestreLion: i know, but this is not the case, i just want to remove the "autoremove" warning on each apt-get :)
[08:27] <alex88> thanks anyway it worked
[08:27] <MestreLion> that warning may have nothing to do with that particular package
[08:28] <MestreLion> apt is simply telling you that you have uninstalled some packages but not their (auto-installed) dependencies
[08:31] <hunktar> re, y'a des gens dispo?
[08:32] <MestreLion> hunktar: ?
[08:33] <Rohith>  I just updated my ubuntu 12.10 today and it went fine and I was told to restart system and after i restart my wifi stopped working. Mine is broadcom BCM4312 card .
[08:34] <alex88> MestreLion: yeah, how can i remove that warning without uninstalling those packages? that was my idea, to directly install dipendences for that package so it goes away
[08:34] <Rohith> I just updated my ubuntu 12.10 today and it went fine and I was told to restart system and after i restart my wifi stopped working. Mine is broadcom BCM4312 card . It was working fine just before the update !
[08:35] <crem> Does ubuntu support dual battery setup? For me when one battery is dischagged and another is still full, it hibernates/sleeps/powers down/whatever
[08:35] <MestreLion> alex88: you can change their auto-installed flag using aptitude. But.. are you sure you don't want to remove them? This warning indicates that those packages are not needed anymore..
[08:36] <alex88> MestreLion: i do, because those packages are required to compile the updates vips tools and also a package that uses vips
[08:36] <MestreLion> alex88: once you install any package that depends on them, the warning will disappear
[08:36] <VlanZ> is it a problem to have an NTFS external HDD on Ubuntu 12.04 using EXT4 ?
[08:36] <Rohith> I just updated my ubuntu 12.10 today and it went fine and I was told to restart system and after i restart my wifi stopped working. Mine is broadcom BCM4312 card . It was working fine just before the update !  I tried reinstalling driver from software sources and it didnt work, it shows the propriety driver in use but network manager doesnt detect my wifi card
[08:37] <alex88> MestreLion: i know, but i can't reinstall vips as it will replace the updates install i did
[08:37] <MestreLion> VlanZ: not at all
[08:38] <VlanZ> MestreLion: k thanks :)
[08:38] <VlanZ> btw are you from italy?
[08:38] <MestreLion> alex88: I didn't understand what you said, but... to un-mark packages as auto-installed, just use: aptitude unmarkauto package1 package2...
[08:38] <alex88> MestreLion: thanks for that ;)
[08:40] <soc42> for a good overview of ubuntu gui's, see: http://complete-concrete-concise.com/ubuntu-2/ubuntu-12-04-server/ubuntu-12-04-server-how-to-install-a-gui
[08:40] <MestreLion> alex88: but... if you don't use these packages directly, and there are currently no packages that depend on them, it makes sense for them to have the auto-installed flag (and the warning)
[08:40] <soc42> regarding performance issues
[08:41] <Rohith> I just updated my ubuntu 12.10 today and it went fine and I was told to restart system and after i restart my wifi stopped working. Mine is broadcom BCM4312 card . It was working fine just before the update !  I tried reinstalling driver from software sources and it didnt work, it shows the propriety driver in use but network manager doesnt detect my wifi card any one ???
[08:42] <alex88> MestreLion: i use these packages.. i'm compiling an app that requires them, but i can't install the package that depends on them because it's outdated, btw, that command asks me to remove them
[08:42] <MestreLion> soc42: you realize that tutorial is for server version only, right?
[08:44] <MestreLion> alex88: aptitude unmarkauto is asking you to remove packages?
[08:44] <vulcanmummie_> hi, someone in here gave me a site or something that would help see if my hard drive was bad, does anyone know what that was?
[08:44] <sorseg> Hi! I have a problem: I've performed an "apt-get upgrade" and my 3d acceleration is gone =( all gl applications are acting weird, unity works without acceleration, blender shows gibberish, wine games says that my drivers are incorrect. Has anyone experienced something like this? I'm using ubuntu 12.04.1 and NVIDIA 550
[08:45] <sorseg> And my drivers are installed from nvidia site
[08:45] <alex88> MestreLion: yup, i do "sudo aptitude unmarkauto libgconf-2-4 etc…" and it says "The following packages will be REMOVED"
[08:45] <MestreLion> alex88: pastebin the whole output
[08:46] <alex88> MestreLion: oh wait, i re did the same command and it worked now :/
[08:48] <MestreLion> sorseg: you may need to rebuild the drivers and reboot, have you done that already
[08:49] <alex88> i have that wifi card also and is a pita due the fwcutter thing you have to do
[08:49] <sorseg> MestreLion I tried to reboot, do you know a way to rebuild nvidia drivers without completely reinstalling them?
[08:49] <alex88> sorseg: try this http://askubuntu.com/questions/125529/wireless-doesnt-work-on-a-broadcom-bcm4312
[08:50] <sorseg> alex88 I don;t undersand...
[08:50] <MestreLion> sorseg: i'm not familiar with nvidia drivers, sorry. in amd/ti, it automatically rebuilds itself when I upgrade kernel, but now sure if a reinstall would be required after an apt-get distupgrade
[08:51] <MestreLion> alex88: I believe this was for Rohith
[08:51] <sorseg> MestreLion ok, I didn't use distupgrade, I just installed package updates. It did update some glpackages though, so I will go and try to reinstall drivers, thanks =)
[08:52] <alex88> MestreLion: oh, you're right, sorry!
[08:52] <alex88> Rohith: look at the link above
[08:55] <soc42> MestreLion: i used the alternate install CD of 12.04 so this might be alright for server, right?
[08:56] <MestreLion> soc42: alternate cd and server cd are not the same
[08:57] <soc42> MestreLion: so is this the reason that the alternate has been removed in 12.10?
[08:57] <piterskr> yo
[08:58] <soc42> for learning purposes i prefer a kind of bare installation with upgrades of what's needed
[08:59] <soc42> so it seems that alternate might be right for this purpose. please correct me if this is a wrong assumption
[09:00] <MestreLion> depends what you mean by "learning purposes"
[09:00] <MestreLion> what are you trying to learn? How to build a desktop environment from scratch?
[09:02] <MestreLion> ubuntu is not a good distro if you're looking for a "bare minimum install"... the point of ubuntu is providing many features ready out-of-the-box
[09:02] <lantizia> Hi... what exactly is "USB Ethernet" in the context of Scanners and SANE?
[09:02] <jamesbeedy> #neverwhere
[09:03] <soc42> MestreLion: well, do you suggest to use debian for a bare minimum install learning curve?
[09:03] <soc42> +built-from-bottom-up
[09:04] <MestreLion> soc42: it depends a lot on A) what exactly do you want to learn, B) what do you consider "bare minimum" :P
[09:04] <kexwork> slackware, arch, gentoo, LFS
[09:04] <somsip> soc42: go for Linux From Scratch if you want the full experience...
[09:04] <kexwork> LFS prob taught me most of what I know today
[09:04] <MestreLion> soc42: i also love LFS :)
[09:05] <johan_> hehe, I've tried LFS twice, and failed to get it working each time :P
[09:05] <soc42> you mean http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/ ?
[09:05] <MestreLion> But again... that is *really* from scratch... so.. what exactly you want to learn? How to *build* a distro, or how to *use* one?
[09:05] <somsip> soc42: yes
[09:05] <kexwork> johan_: try and try again, you will succeed :)
[09:05] <hateball> !ot
[09:06] <johan_> kexwork: hehe, sure thing ;)  thinking of giving arch a go though
[09:06] <chaos_> ubottu
[09:06] <kexwork> johan_: I use arch on several boxes, quite happy with it
[09:06] <kexwork> for my main dev machine at work, been using xubuntu for a while now.
[09:06] <kexwork> alongside a gentoo laptop/slack netbook
[09:13] <cnf> how can i take back the windows key from unity?
[09:14] <chaos_> if a solar flare takes us out -> I am letting everyone know I love Ubuntu the most!
[09:14] <chaos_> Fedora is good but I came back to Ubuntu after a year and ya its awesome
[09:15] <akis> hi. i installed on my xubuntu 12.04, in my /home new icons' set: faenza blue-dark 2 and are amazing but i realized that in some applications there is no icon, eg in calculator is missing icon for 'undo' and "clear display". is there any way to fix it and make the system to use icons for those buttons too?
[09:15] <hualet> hello, can anybody tell me why i don't have a /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch file?
[09:15] <cnf> i'd like to remap the dash thing to windows-space, and give me back my windows key for binding
[09:17] <hualet> no one knows?
[09:21] <soc42> some of the purposes include finding and getting closer into a linux-based OS for programming and infrastructure services (development services like databases, built server, etc... ) with stability, performance and security in mind as an alternative to Mac OS as it's very bound to hardware.
[09:22] <soc42> another purpose is to get deeper into virtualization meaning that i am looking for a performant host os which could be also used as computing nodes in a render farm
[09:22] <soc42> also this host os should be able to server windows environments as an alternative to vmware
[09:24] <soc42> able to serve
[09:24] <soc42> so there are many usage scenarios and a lot to learn...
[09:25] <soc42> meaning the host os should be very flexible without having to learn too many different distros
[09:28] <jalexandru> I have a network of computers, on one of my computers I need to install ubuntu 12.04 but I can't use a usb stick, it has no floppy or cd-rom, can I do it throw network boot? and how would I go with this?
[09:29] <bin_bash> jalexandru, have you tried via USB
[09:31] <SharkMuttleworth> jalexandru: There's a few ways of doing a network install: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation#Server_and_network_installations
[09:31] <Jonne_> i'm running ubuntu on a laptop with a broken screen (as a server, but it has the ubuntu desktop packages installed because i use it for pulseaudio stuff).  After upgrading to quantal, it won't shut down properly any more. How do i debug this if i have no screen? The logs don't seem to have anything in them
[09:33] <brontosaurusrex> Jonne_: connect an external screen?
[09:33] <Jonne_> i did that, but it doesn't show anything on the external screen
[09:34] <Jonne_> and when i try running xrandr over ssh it affects my local display instead of the remote one
[09:34] <brontosaurusrex> Jonne_: some laptops have function keys to switch screens
[09:34] <Jonne_> haven't thought of that, will check that out when i get back home
[09:36] <Jonne_> thanks brontosaurusrex
[09:36] <SharkMuttleworth> Jonne_: You could just connect via ssh and investigate via the terminal
[09:36] <jalexandru> bin_bash: I tried via USB and it's not booting the usb .... the hdd seems to have the boot fault so the only way I see it is network boot, I'll check the link given by SarkMuttleworth (thanks for it by the way)
[09:37] <Jonne_> i am connected over ssh, but as soon as i try to run 'reboot', i'll get disconnected and won't be able to reconnect due to it being stuck on shutdown
[09:37] <Jonne_> and nothing in /var./log/syslog that looks suspicious
[09:38] <Jonne_> */var/log/syslog
[09:41] <akis> hi. i installed on my xubuntu 12.04, in my /home new icons' set: faenza blue-dark 2 and are amazing but i realized that in some applications there is no icon, eg in calculator is missing icon for 'undo' and "clear display". also in "ubuntu software center" there is no icon for the magnifying lens.  is there any way to fix it and make the system to use icons for those buttons too?
[09:45] <Max71> ciao a tutti
[09:45] <Max71> !list
[09:46] <Max71> !alis
[09:46] <Max71> alis list
[09:46] <Jonne_> lame response, it should just DCC an ubuntu iso instead
[09:47] <soc42> MestreLion: what do you say about my purposes... is ubuntu still the way to go?
[09:48] <lantizia> Hi... what exactly is "USB Ethernet" in the context of Scanners and SANE?
[09:48] <fmoo> I just switched to 12.10, and every 10 seconds or so, on the console, I get an error about being unable to read lba 0 from /dev/fd0...  I don't have a floppy drive in my system.
[09:49] <bin_bash> lol
[09:49] <soc42> lantizia: i guess you are trying to install a network scanner i.e. have one scanner at a usb port used for the server and shared this device over ethernet to other clients on the lan
[09:49] <joosen> hi evey body
[09:50] <lantizia> soc42, no
[09:50] <joosen> Can I add update manager on to the right of top cornor?
[09:50] <fmoo> also, for whatever reason, when it updated grub, it nuked the windows 7 loader from the grub conf.  I manually ran "sudo update-grub" and that brought it back
[09:50] <lantizia> soc42, the SANE compatibility database lists some types of connectivity between SANE and the Scanner as "USB Ethernet" instead of "USB"
[09:55] <soc42> i guess "USB Ethernet" is for a a device shared on a USB port that has a virtual IP (for the other clients in the network) even if the attached scanner has no NIC/LAN-card.
[09:58] <joosen> hi
[09:58] <oxidizer000> hi
[09:58] <joosen> keyboard indicator dont show
[09:58] <joosen> in ubuntu 12.10
[09:59] <joosen> why it lost  i don't know.
[09:59] <joosen> someone found this or not?
[09:59] <oxidizer000> did you updated ?
[09:59] <joosen> already
[10:00] <joosen> it be the bug of this version ubuntu or not?
[10:03] <joosen> It have so many bugs or not?
[10:05] <SharkMuttleworth> joosen: Ubuntu has no bugs, only features
[10:05] <joosen> How can I do?
[10:05] <joosen> Previous version it show.
[10:05] <joosen> but 12.10 don't show now after update?
[10:06] <Liger86> I remember that one time I was able to get dynamic resolution changing on my virtualbox instalation, now I seem to have a problem finding this option. Any suggestions?
[10:07] <administrator> hello
[10:07] <MestreLion> soc42: well, if this is your first time using a linux-based OS, then I suggest you skip the server and alternate installs and go with the desktop one. You can do all development and virtualization you want and, if performance is not enough, you can later remove and configute it the way you want
[10:07] <joosen> How can I do?
[10:07] <Guest8440> hello
[10:08] <MonkeyDust> Liger86  some 260 people in #vbox
[10:08] <Guest8440> how is 12.10 operating system
[10:08] <Guest8440> ??
[10:08] <soc42> MestreLion: it's not the first time on linux, promise – but on ubuntu ;o)
[10:08] <Guest8440> did any one try virtualization on that yet
[10:08] <MonkeyDust> Guest8440  i'm happy with it, ok
[10:08] <Liger86> I thought this was Ubuntu, is this only for server instalations?
[10:09] <bin_bash> no
[10:09] <MonkeyDust> Liger86  i missed the server part in your question
[10:09] <bin_bash> Liger86, did you have a question
[10:09] <joosen> what's about the gnome remix?
[10:09] <joosen> I found it from this link
[10:09] <Liger86> yea, I just installed desktop version onto virtualbox, and I can't get resolution to change when i resize window.
[10:10] <MestreLion> Liger86:  usually the guest additions is all that's needed for auto-resize
[10:10] <Guest8440> did anyone try ubuntu 12.10
[10:10] <joosen> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/ReleaseNotes/12.10
[10:10] <Guest8440> server edition
[10:10] <MonkeyDust> Guest8440  about everybody here
[10:10] <joosen> someone tell me about that?
[10:10] <Guest8440> lol ok
[10:10] <Guest8440> and its working fine with virtualization ya?
[10:11] <fir_ed> After installing a package(ruby1.9.1), ruby -v doesn't work
[10:11] <fir_ed> any suggestions?
[10:11] <MestreLion> joosen: what is to know that is not already there?
[10:11] <SharkMuttleworth> Guest8440: What virtualization software are you using?
[10:12] <joosen> keyboard indicator don't show.
[10:12] <Guest8440> vbox
[10:12] <joosen> and network indicator don't show together.
[10:12] <joosen> also.
[10:12] <MestreLion> joosen: in ubuntu gnome remix?
[10:13] <joosen> I just found it and now i'm trying to do follow that?
[10:13] <joosen> Maybe the keyboard indicator will come back.
[10:14] <joosen> Now, may I go to toilet .
[10:14] <joosen> Bye
[10:14] <MestreLion> joosen: ubuntu gnome remix is not an official ubuntu derivate. It's not really a distro actually... and Support via IRC can be found in the #ubuntu-gnome channel on the freenode network.
[10:14] <MestreLion> lol
[10:14] <MestreLion> err... good toilet for you :P
[10:14] <InstantKrimson> too much details!
[10:15] <paolo> ciao
[10:15] <MonkeyDust> tmi, too much information
[10:15] <MestreLion> fir_ed: try ruby --help
[10:16] <Liger86> I only have limited number of choices for resolution, I can't even tell if I have installed guest additions correctly.
[10:16] <MestreLion> Liger86: Host+D and reboot
[10:18] <abdelghani> any program to read wmv files?
[10:18] <Liger86> Still won't dynamically resize.
[10:19] <DJones> !wmv | abdelghani
[10:19] <DJones> abdelghani: I find that vlc will play pretty much any media format
[10:20] <abdelghani> I used vlc but no result
[10:20] <zl2tod> abdelghani, start vlc in a terminal and it'll tell you what's going on
[10:20] <MestreLion> Liger86: can you paste / print screen the output after Host+D ?
[10:21] <Mrokii> Hello. Does anybdoy know a OCR-software that lets one scan documents into readable PDFs? I don't care if it paid or free, but all open source solutions for Ubuntu I could find suck.
[10:21] <soc42> if there is a package file .deb can i use it for ubuntu or is the a .ubu package naming convention?
[10:21] <Liger86> http://i.imgur.com/njWdz.png
[10:22] <MestreLion> Liger86: looks like a host OS / vbox issue
[10:23] <Safiyyah>  /msg NickServ identify <1215225>
[10:23] <DJones> Safiyyah: Password change time
[10:23] <Liger86> well I already ran it, and restarted after that, I can unmount it, but it doesn't help.
[10:23] <SharkMuttleworth> Liger86: Use VMWare, Virtualbox is barely maintained
[10:24] <MestreLion> soc42: ubuntu uses .deb it package format. But not all .debs you find on the net were made for (or tested with) ubuntu
[10:24] <Liger86> So I have to do physical instal?
[10:24] <MestreLion> SharkMuttleworth: you mean for Windows or in general?
[10:25] <SharkMuttleworth> In general
[10:25] <Mrokii> Actually, I guess what I'm looking for is a paid solution for producing readable (ORC) PDF-documents, because none of the open source solutions I found worked well, if at all.
[10:25] <soc42> so it's not safe to use .deb packages on ubuntu even if ubuntu derives from debian?
[10:25] <io> !ciao a tutti
[10:25] <io> !list
[10:25] <DJones> !vmware | SharkMuttleworth Liger86 (Just be aware that vmware isn't supported in this channel as its not part of the official repositories),
[10:26] <MestreLion> SharkMuttleworth: how come? they release versions almost every month
[10:26] <SharkMuttleworth> DJones: That's irrelevant, if Virtualbox breaks you're telling me ubuntu developers will invest time to fix it? They only package the software
[10:26] <dr_willis> soc42: ubuntu uses debs. but it depends on which os or release the deb was made for
[10:27] <MestreLion> soc42: .deb is a package format. Many distros use it, including Debian and Ubuntu.
[10:27] <MestreLion> soc42: but you should preferably only install debs that were made for Ubuntu
[10:27] <dr_willis> ubuntu devs wont fix vmware with thar logic either... or did i miss somthibg.)
[10:28] <samurai2> hi there, what is the command to find a folder that contain some word in it? thanks
[10:28] <soc42> dr_willis: you mean for which os/distro it was compiled. is there a way to find out or does one depend on the distributors information anywhere...
[10:28] <MestreLion> soc42: Ubuntu is derived from Debian, but there are many differences. Ubuntu is not Debian, and is not 100% compatible with it. Some packages made for debian may work in ubuntu, some may not
[10:28] <samurai2> like for example /folder/myfolder_2012_10_23
[10:29] <samurai2> and I want to find it if it's had 10_23
[10:29] <dr_willis> soc42: no idea. one normally dosent just grab some deb off the net. use repos and ppas to install stuff from
[10:29] <joosen> debian or ubuntu is better than
[10:29] <bin_bash> compiling from source is best.
[10:30] <dr_willis> source in not best....
[10:30] <MestreLion> samurai2: find / -name 10_23
[10:30] <soc42> dr_willis: y != ?
[10:31] <ahhughes> I want to install a specific version of a package, how can I do this?
[10:31] <ahhughes> with apt
[10:31] <samurai2> MestreLion : thanks, I'll try it :)
[10:31] <dr_willis> !pin | ahhughes
[10:31] <MestreLion> bin_bash: compiling from upstream source is definately NOT the best way to install software in Ubuntu, specially for newcomers
[10:31] <soc42> MestreLion: the other way round, do ubuntu packages work on debian in general?
[10:32] <MestreLion> soc42: nope, for the same reason. they are different OSses
[10:32] <MestreLion> they simply use the same package *format*
[10:32] <bin_bash> MestreLion, compiling from source is the best way to optimize software for your build.
[10:32] <ahhughes> dr_willis, looks like I can just use apt-get install packagename=1.2.3
[10:32] <dr_willis> soc42: in general you DONT mix the two
[10:32] <Liger86> http://i.imgur.com/lyrRz.jpg here's what I got after I ran host+d
[10:32] <soc42> MestreLion: sad, but true (if you're right)
[10:33] <MestreLion> soc42: why sad?
[10:33] <dr_willis> not sad at all...
[10:33] <MestreLion> bin_bash: precisely my point. Upstream software is not optimized for Ubuntu. Packages in repos are
[10:34] <ahhughes> how can I list all potential versions of a package I have not installed yet with apt?
[10:34] <dr_willis> you dont want to mixx up different ubuntu releases packages either
[10:34] <MestreLion> Liger86: looks fine. reboot and try
[10:35] <MestreLion> ahhughes: apt-cache policy <package>
[10:35] <Liger86> just did, no progress, if I resize vbox window the resolution stays the same
[10:35] <MestreLion> Liger86: have you tried Host+F, host+A, etc?
[10:36] <MestreLion> host+L and host+C  may also help
[10:37] <Liger86> host+l is greyed out
[10:37] <Liger86> host+c works, but doesnt change resolution
[10:38] <MestreLion> bin_bash: actually, "optimized" is not the right word... "configured for ubuntu" is more correct. Upstream sources are generic, there may need tweaks for it to work properly in ubuntu
[10:39] <ahhughes> bugger thanks Messenger_bird / dr_willis I can't get the same version of this package in 32 and 64 bit... oh well :)
[10:39] <MestreLion> bin_bash: also, compiling from source has no dependency resolution, conflicts or upgrades at all
[10:39] <john_rambo> When I do sudo aa-enforce /etc/apparmor.d/usr.bin.firefox       I get aa-enforce command not found
[10:40] <dr_willis> !find aa-enforce
[10:40] <MestreLion> john_rambo: try running just "aa-enforce" and read the output
[10:41] <john_rambo>  sudo aa-enforce
[10:41] <john_rambo> sudo: aa-enforce: command not found
[10:41] <MestreLion> without sudo
[10:42] <dr_willis> it may say to install apparmor-utils
[10:42] <Mrokii> How can I stop Ubuntu/Desktop from making windows "snap" to a certain position when I move them too close to one of the screen-borders?
[10:42] <marsfligth> Ubuntu 12.04 blanks the screen after ten minutes even if I set 'don't suspend' in power and brightness and set the lock as off. How to keep the always on?
[10:43] <john_rambo> Yes it says to install apparmor-utils
[10:43] <dr_willis> Mrokii: its one of the compuz plugins you can tweak with the ccsm tool...
[10:43] <dr_willis> !ccsm
[10:43] <MestreLion> john_rambo: so go for it ;)
[10:44] <john_rambo> MestreLion, Okay
[10:44] <Mrokii> dr_willis: I'll take a look.
[10:44] <Mrokii> dr_willis: Thanks.
[10:44] <Mrokii> dr_willis: I know about CCSM but I thought it was a Unitiy-thing.
[10:45] <dr_willis> unity is a compiz plugin
[10:45] <MestreLion> Mrokii: it's the other way around... Unity is build on top of compiz :)
[10:45] <Mrokii> okay.
[10:45] <Pupuser> I want install ubuntu on usb , should I install it with normal instalation like on hdd or with usb creator?
[10:45] <Mrokii> MestreLion: I see. Thanks.
[10:45] <MestreLion> Pupuser: depends on what you want on the USB: a live session or a full install?
[10:46] <Pupuser> mestrelion Full install
[10:46] <MestreLion> Pupuser: then normal installation
[10:46] <Pupuser> But I guess I shouldn't make swap on usb yep?
[10:46] <MonkeyDust> !usb > Pupuser start here
[10:47] <Pupuser> Thanks
[10:47] <MestreLion> Pupuser: with enough RAM swap location is irrelevant
[10:47] <sawrub> hello all, i'm facing issues with the AR9485 wifi driver in 12.10
[10:47] <sawrub> any help
[10:47] <MestreLion> !usb > MestreLion
[10:48] <Pupuser> My other question , will ubuntu be bootable if i copy it on usb with dd copy?
[10:48] <marsfligth> How to keep the screen always on? I set the system setting to never suspend, but after ten mins it blanks
[10:49] <MonkeyDust> marsfligth  system settings, brightness and lock
[10:50] <adminuser> hi all ! >(
[10:50] <adminuser> :)
[10:50] <thmcmahon> hey guys i'm trying to edit a menu in xfce using alacarte, but nothing saves/happens when i make changes. any ideas?
[10:50] <MestreLion> Pupuser: you dd the partition? No, unless you install grub on the usb afterwards
[10:51] <marsfligth> MonkeyDust: I done but it still to blank the screen, I don't understand. It does the same on two my Precise
[10:52] <MestreLion> marsfligth: have you looked in system settings > brightness and lock ?
[10:52] <MestreLion> marsfligth: not power options
[10:54] <MestreLion> Pupuser: regarding the urls provided about usb persistent install... please realize that while it is great, it is still a live session... very different from a normal install
[10:54] <MiningMarsh> thmcmahon: you can edit the menu file manually.
[10:55] <marsfligth> MestreLion: yes, of course. I'm here because the standard ways are failing on two my precise installations
[10:55] <MestreLion> marsfligth: care to post a screenshot?
[10:56] <MiningMarsh> thmcmahon: cp /etc/xdg/menus/xfce-applications.menu  ~/.config/menus/xfce-applications.menu, gedit ~/.config/menus/xfce-applications.menu
[10:57] <MestreLion> MiningMarsh: that will prevent removed software to be automatically removed from menu, won't it?
[10:58] <MiningMarsh> MestreLion: nah, you specify categories and xfce puts apps from those categories in that menu.
[10:58] <MiningMarsh> MestreLion: xfce never touches its own menu file.
[10:59] <paolo> ciao
[10:59] <MestreLion> oh... quite different from gnome then. I thought they both used xdg standard
[10:59] <MiningMarsh> xfce does
[10:59] <acidflash>  i checked the file /sys/block/sde/queue/scheduler and inside it was the following -> noop deadline [cfq]
[10:59] <acidflash> this means that cfg is the current scheduler?
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[11:00] <MiningMarsh>             <Category>Settings</Category>
[11:00] <MiningMarsh>         </Include>
[11:00] <MiningMarsh> Thats how the xdg standard says you are supposed to create a submenu, by including a category in it
[11:02] <MestreLion> humm, true. I was confused because of a wine issue i had in the past with gnome2. wine installs a menu file. i had copied it to my user's config and, of course, it wasn't removed when wine was uninstalled
[11:02] <MiningMarsh> MestreLion: but the xdg standard also says you can include a desktop file by itself, thats how alacarte works.
[11:03] <MestreLion> so I had a few .menu (and some .desktop) files for non-existing apps, because i manually copied them to my user dir
[11:03] <MiningMarsh> MestreLion: thats a whole nother mess. the standard says if you put a menu file in a certain location then its contents will be merged wiht the master menu file where specified. Gnome forgets to add the emrge line, so it ends up ignoring wines menu file.
[11:04] <MiningMarsh> MestreLion: XFCE is the only desktop I have seen handle merging according to the standard.
[11:04] <MestreLion> humm
[11:05] <MestreLion> "certain location" being ~/.local/share/menu/applications-merged I assume, correct?
[11:06] <MiningMarsh> MestrreLion: yes.
[11:06] <cyberflyz> hello
[11:06] <bunny> hi guys
[11:06] <MiningMarsh> MestrreLion: I think gnome looks at ~/.local/share/menu/gnome-applications-merged or something like that. It breaks things.
[11:06] <cyberflyz> can i ask some thing ?
[11:06] <MiningMarsh> MestrreLion: I gotta go.
[11:06] <MestreLion> !ask > cyberflyz
[11:07] <physically_fit> what version of flash do you guys have? i have firefox 16.0.1 (latest i think) but i can't get to install flash's latest version: 11.2.202.243, i only get 11.2.202.236. is there any reason for that?
[11:07] <bunny> can anyone tell me how can we find multiple commands using find
[11:08] <cyberflyz> i just change my vps time zone, but it still shows the wrong time. can u help me
[11:08] <MestreLion> bunny: multiple commands?
[11:09] <cyberflyz> ??
[11:10] <physically_fit> what version of firefox and flash do you guys have?
[11:10] <MestreLion> physically_fit: please paste output of apt-cache policy flash*
[11:10] <profiler1982> did is possible to upgrade from 11.10 to 12.10
[11:11] <MestreLion> physically_fit: for 11.2.202.243 you need to enable the updates repository
[11:12] <MestreLion> profiler1982: nope, you need to upgrate to 12.04 first
[11:12] <physically_fit> mestre, how, what part?
[11:12] <pangur> I am looking at the list of Freenode logs for today at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/10/24/.  How is the one for this channel identified, please?
[11:12] <physically_fit> MestreLion , how, what part?
[11:12] <MestreLion> physically_fit: pastebin the whole output
[11:13] <profiler1982> tnx
[11:13] <IdleOne> pangur: #ubuntu.txt
[11:14] <pangur> Thanks, IdleOne  :)
[11:14] <GangBang> #kasprzak
[11:14] <Arek> d
[11:14] <Arek> hi
[11:14] <viniciusarq> hey guys
[11:14] <Arek> d
[11:14] <Arek> d
[11:14] <Arek> d
[11:14] <FloodBot1> Arek: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:15] <profiler1982> 12.04 is not work properetly on my eee pc but 11.10 is work exelent. did 12.10 have some change for apu c-60
[11:15] <MonkeyDust> j #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:15] <physically_fit> MestreLion, you said i need to enable the update repositories, to get 11.2.202.243  i only have unckecked "quantal proposed", should i check it?
[11:15] <viniciusarq> i've installed lubuntu here but neither gmd or lightdm starts... it gets me to a black screen.. do you think it's a driver problem?
[11:16] <MestreLion> physically_fit: nope, proposed is not necessary... updates and security are enough
[11:16] <profiler1982> on 11.10 unity, gnome-shell, gnome-classic with compiz is working on free drivers in 12.04 not
[11:17] <MestreLion> profiler1982:  have you tried 12.10 in a live session to see if it works?
[11:17] <samurai2> how to get the only creation date of a specific folder? thanks :)
[11:18] <profiler1982> yes and unity works but not well
[11:18] <MestreLion> samurai2: stat --help is your friend ;)
[11:19] <profiler1982> in 12.10 live mod, unity is slow
[11:19] <physically_fit> MestreLion, friend, the output of  apt-cache policy flash* is long an it only mentions 11.2.202.243, no references to 11.2.202.236, but if i right click on the flash video it says 11.2.202.236
[11:19] <MestreLion> so keep 11.10 until 13.04 comes out :)
[11:20] <MestreLion> physically_fit: use a pastebin :)
[11:20] <profiler1982> am using gnome-shell as primary DE. did sugest me to try gnome-shell remix 12.10
[11:21] <profiler1982> ok that was my plan... to wait 13.04 tnx
[11:23] <physically_fit> MestreLion, what should i look there? because there are no references to the older version 11.2.202.236
[11:23] <MestreLion> physically_fit: flashplugin instead of flash* shows fewer (and more relevant) results
[11:23] <profiler1982> 13.04 anounced (bad eng sorry) beter support for laptops and netbooks. my model is r051bx
[11:23] <MestreLion> physically_fit: paste the whole output to any pastebin and paste the url here
[11:24] <MestreLion> physically_fit: also, check http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/ and compare the results
[11:25] <ericmar> Question
[11:25] <ericmar> I have a new intel i7 processor with 16gb ram
[11:25] <ericmar> Should I still be using the 32bit version of ubuntu?
[11:27] <ericmar> ??
[11:27] <ericmar> Hello?
[11:27] <MestreLion> ericmar: i don't see any point in using 32-bit with this hardware, unless you have a specific issue with 64
[11:27] <ericmar> Seems very unstable
[11:27] <ericmar> That's why I was wondering
[11:27] <ericmar> I mean VERY unstable
[11:28] <ericmar> I was assuming that in 2012 one would use the 64 bit on a 64 bit chip and a native install
[11:28] <MestreLion> did you compare both 32 and 64 clean, fresh installs ?
[11:28] <SharkMuttleworth> ericmar: Yeah, it would be mad to use 32-bit
[11:28] <SharkMuttleworth> ericmar: What specific stability problems are you having?
[11:29] <ericmar> I can't shut down without it going into a memory test mode of some sort
[11:29] <ericmar> I am using 10.10
[11:29] <ericmar> 12.10
[11:29] <ericmar> Maybe Going to 12.04 will help, which is what I am going to try next
[11:30] <MestreLion> ericmar: I also have 16GB, and using 64-bit ubuntu since 10.04 with no issues at all
[11:31] <MestreLion> ericmar: but to properly test it, I would do a clean install in a new partition to rule out any software-related issue
[11:31] <MestreLion> do a fresh install, install all updates, reboot and test
[11:31] <DJones> ericmar: In the early days of 64 bit ubuntu, some software didn't work very well, or was a pain to install, which was why 32 bit has always been recommended, its come a long way since then, I've been using 64 bit for about 18 months without any software issues
[11:32] <DJones> ericmar: It might be worth trying a 12.10 64 bit live usb before installing anything to see how that works on your system
[11:32] <cnf> how do i make a new terminal in unity not open in the directory i was in?
[11:33] <MestreLion> cnf: new terminal by default opens in your home dir
[11:34] <ericmar> Thanks for the input
[11:34] <ericmar> I am trying 12.04 I suppose
[11:34] <cnf> MestreLion: it's not doing that, so where is the setting to change that
[11:34] <MestreLion> cnf: how are you opening this new terminal?
[11:35] <cnf> MestreLion: "open new tab"
[11:35] <ericmar> I really want to try the Xubuntu since I don't like the reg interface, but I am going to buy support from Caniconal
[11:35] <ericmar> Canonical
[11:35] <ericmar> lol
[11:35] <MestreLion> cnf:  oh...  new tab, not a new terminal window
[11:36] <cnf> MestreLion:  behaves the same way
[11:36] <marsfligth> MestreLion: sorry for the delay. The screen-shoots: http://imgur.com/Sewtz,OBrZh#0
[11:36] <BlackNarcissus> Hello. Anyone using jabber.org with empathy on 12.04 is having a certificate warning upon connection ?
[11:38] <StefanM> what's the recommended / size for ubuntu 10.04 server? I had to upgrade 6 Ubuntu 9.x servers to 10 LTS and after the upgrade the / partition is too small.
[11:38] <MestreLion> cnf: ctrl+shift+n in a terminal window is not the same as crtl+shift+t . When you open a new window (or tab) *from a previous termial*, it remains in same dir
[11:38] <cnf> MestreLion:  so how do i disable that?
[11:39] <MestreLion> cnf: if you open a new terminal using ctrl+shift+t (or use dash, or mouse middle-click), then it will always open in your home dir
[11:39] <MestreLion> marsfligth: brightness and lock, NOT power
[11:40] <cnf> MestreLion: sorry, but what are you saying?
[11:41] <marsfligth> MestreLion: If you press next pics will find it
[11:41] <sireorion> hi foks... Ihave an old crap computer with follow: 500MHz I586 CPU 1024MB SOLID DRIVE HDD 512MB RAM... Can i install ubuntu on it?
[11:42] <MestreLion> cnf: open a terminal and cd to any dir. now open a new terminal using dash
[11:42] <cnf> MestreLion: yeah, but that's not somehting i do, or need
[11:43] <MestreLion> so what do you need?
[11:43] <cnf> to open a new tab, and it NOT going to whatever directory my other tab was in
[11:43] <MestreLion> sireorion: not the standard desktop... you need a larger hdd
[11:44] <MestreLion> cnf: does it need to be a new tab? can't it be a new window?
[11:44] <sireorion> MestreLion:  okey... but are there other distros? i have tryed Puppy but i dont like it
[11:44] <MestreLion> sireorion: there are zillions od linux distros.. try distrowatch website
[11:45] <curtman> How do I stop Ekiga and Empathy from loading when I log in?
[11:45] <dr_willis> sireorion: tinycore linux
[11:45] <sireorion> MestreLion: i have looked on that.. but no site tells how much HDD u ned to have
[11:45] <sipior> StefanM: a few GB would be the absolute minimum for comfort. i wouldn't use less than about 10GB myself, and hard drive space is cheap. but consider using LVM2 for future installs, which will give you flexibility to resize / if needed without the annoying repartitioning.
[11:45] <marsfligth> 'MestreLion: on the top left of the page you find 'First Image - Second Image' aswell 'next'. Brightness screenshoot is in the second page
[11:45] <MestreLion> cnf: if you hit crtl+shift+t , it should open a new window in ~ regardless of other terminals
[11:45] <dr_willis> sireorion: tiny core is like 30 mb. ;-)
[11:46] <MestreLion> dr_willis: so is busybox, but I don't think those are what he wants :P
[11:46] <cnf> MestreLion:  that it doesn't do
[11:47] <MestreLion> cnf: ctrl+shift+t does not open a new terminal?
[11:47] <sireorion> dr_willis: okey... im on that site now... and it have 3 differnt files :S
[11:47] <dr_willis> no idea what he wants.. he wanted a small distro.
[11:47] <dr_willis> i think
[11:47] <sireorion> core tinycore & coreplus
[11:47] <cnf> MestreLion:  it does, with the same pwd as the previous tab
[11:47] <MestreLion> he wants a, *i guess*, "normal" distro
[11:47] <StefanM> sipior: do you perhaps know what is wrong when this happens? http://pastebin.com/rSqBhGvs
[11:47] <dr_willis> lubuntu then...
[11:48] <sireorion> lubuntu needs 1,5 GB hdd
[11:48] <MestreLion> cnf: you say that, for you, crtl+shift+t works the same as ctrl+shift+n ??
[11:48] <StefanM> lots of free inodes on /
[11:48] <Liger86> Can anyone recommend a site for learning command line, there are so many out there.
[11:48]  * curtman thinks there definitely needs to be a "startup programs" UI for Gnome.
[11:48] <cnf> MestreLion:  no, n opens a new window, t a new tab, BOTH with the shell in the pwd of whatever one i had active when i pressed it
[11:49] <MestreLion> marsfligth: yes, I saw, sorry. well, it looks fine, have no idea why it isn't working. maybe you tinked with compiz settings directly?
[11:49] <dr_willis> Liger86: see what ones on delicious.com have the most tagged ;-)
[11:50] <sipior> StefanM: looks like treesize missed a spot. no dotfiles in /, i assume?
[11:50] <Liger86> will do.
[11:50] <MestreLion> cnf: i just realized gnome makes a mess with keyboard shortcuts...
[11:50] <StefanM> sipior: no, treesize is just a script for du with formatting using awk.
[11:50] <StefanM> du doesn't miss files as far as I know
[11:50]  * curtman assumes nobody knows, when people ignore him.  He also finds that sad.
[11:51]  * curtman speaks in 3rd person when he's frustrated
[11:51] <sipior> StefanM: well, something is clearly not right :-)
[11:51] <StefanM> yup
[11:51] <cnf> MestreLion:  right mouse, open terminal or open tab does the same things respectively
[11:51] <MestreLion> cnf: omg, i'm truly sorry: ctrl+ALT+t
[11:52] <cnf> ok, that's better
[11:52] <cnf> now where do i remap that?
[11:52] <ericmar> My install seems to be working ok but how do I install new drivers?
[11:52] <MestreLion> cnf: ctrl+ALT+t is also the same as middle-click in launcher
[11:52] <ericmar> Should I install any additional drivers
[11:52] <cnf> middle click where?
[11:52] <ericmar> I am getting some crashing and erratic behavior
[11:52] <MestreLion> cnf: in launcher...
[11:52] <InstantKrimson> trying to compile kernel with "make menuconfig"
[11:52] <InstantKrimson> get error that NCURSES is needed and that I should install NCURSES-DEVEL
[11:52] <InstantKrimson> Cannot find that in the repositories, anybody got a clue as what I should do?
[11:53] <dr_willis> ericmar:  drivers for what?
[11:53] <MestreLion> cnf: in launcher, assuming you locked the terminal in launcher
[11:53] <cnf> MestreLion:  which is what? (i am SO not used to graphical stuff in linux)
[11:53] <cnf> oh, the side bar thingie?
[11:53] <MestreLion> yup
[11:53] <cnf> i have 2 terminals side by side, nicely lined up
[11:53] <cnf> and i open up tabs in that
[11:54] <MestreLion> nd you can remat it in system settings > keyboard > shortcuts tab > launchers
[11:54] <sipior> InstantKrimson:  i believe you'll want libncurses*
[11:54] <cnf> aha, i was looking in terminal settings itself
[11:55] <cnf> oh, hmm
[11:55] <cnf> MestreLion:  that doesn't do new tabs, though
[11:55] <ericmar> graphics etc...
[11:55] <MestreLion> cnf: nope
[11:55] <dr_willis> cnf when doing a lot of ttterminal work - i tend to use terminator
[11:55] <cnf> hmz, crap
[11:55] <Oprr> hi everyone
[11:55] <MestreLion> cnf: i don't know if there is a way to change the tabs behavior
[11:55] <InstantKrimson> sipior: Thanks, I'll try that! :-)
[11:55] <dr_willis> ericmar:  no need to msg me. tell the channel your video specs.
[11:56] <ericmar> I am trying to install VMware and the install says the default package file should handle the install, but it will not seem to work
[11:56] <cnf> hmz, balls
[11:57] <cnf> dr_willis: java, no thank you
[11:57] <dr_willis> cnf:  java?
[11:57] <InstantKrimson> sipior: installing libncursesw5-dev did the trick, thank you very much! :-D
[11:57] <dr_willis> !info terminator
[11:58] <sipior> InstantKrimson: yep, have fun.
[11:58] <cnf> dr_willis: terminator thing says it needs java 6
[11:58] <dr_willis> ubuntus terminator does not use java
[11:58] <ericmar> Dr - it's a lenovo x230 with on board intel graphics
[11:58] <dr_willis> you may be looking at a similar named project
[11:58] <Eagleman> In what format do i add a dns entry to look at the ownt server in /etc/hosts?  I want hgg-fs to point to the local server
[11:58] <MestreLion> ericmar: afaik, there's no vmware in ubuntu repos
[11:59] <Da_Wi> hi, i have a strange problem, and perhaps one of you have a hint. I'm running an ubuntu 12.04, works fine ... almost. If i look at "free -m" i have 740 MB total memory. But i have 1GB build in. Is the memory broken and cannot be used? Any other ideas?
[11:59] <dr_willis> ericmar:  intel drivers are built in by default normally
[11:59] <Pici> Da_Wi: do you have an onboard video card? often those use shared memory, i.e. it steals it out of your RAM
[12:00] <ericmar> Seems like it Mestre, so now I don't know how to install
[12:00] <ericmar> Which isn't the end of the world, but would be nice
[12:00] <MestreLion> Da_Wi: onboard video ram perhaps?
[12:00] <ericmar> I have an old image I want to access
[12:00] <Da_Wi> Pici, jupp. It's a laptop. Thus onboard. And to steal 250MB sounds reasonable. cc MestreLion
[12:00] <ericmar> I would assume so Dr_
[12:00] <dr_willis> cnf:  i recall some osx project with a similer name. ;) not the same as ubuntus terminatoe, which uses python and gnome-terminal
[12:00] <ericmar> I am looking
[12:00] <Da_Wi> Pici MestreLion should i leave that alone? Or is there a way to get it back (e.g. 100 MB)?
[12:01] <MestreLion> Da_Wi: some laptops have a dedicated video card that don't use your main RAM
[12:01] <MestreLion> Da_Wi: you can probably set up your video ram size in your laptop's BIOS
[12:01] <Pici> Da_Wi: There may be a setting in your BIOS, I've never seen a configurable setting for this past boot.
[12:01] <ericmar> Dr_ it says intel HD4000 onboard graphics part of the i&
[12:01] <ericmar> So, I assume so
[12:02] <Da_Wi> Pici, MestreLion okay. I'll try that. Do you think I should reduce that to e.g. 150 MB?
[12:02] <curtman> Worst support channel ever....
[12:02] <MestreLion> Da_Wi: that depends on what is your usage bottleneck... video ram or main ram?
[12:04] <Da_Wi> MestreLion, I need more Ram. And i make normal desktop stuff, thus no fancy video stuff or games. So I should make it smaller.
[12:04] <MestreLion> Da_Wi:  go for 128mb (or even 64mb) and see if video is still confortable
[12:04] <Da_Wi> MestreLion, thx. I'll try that (if I find something :/)
[12:05] <Eagleman> In what format do i add a dns entry to look at the ownt server in /etc/hosts?  I want hgg-fs to point to the local server
[12:05] <ericmar> Thanks for the help all!
[12:05] <[HUN]Btvilag> hi everyone. I have an issue with lvm and deleted partitions. I managed to find a way to recover however i have one problem. I dont know the order the hardrives were in. Is UUID for life or does it change everytime i unplug-plug the harddrive to the ubuntu? because lvmrestore thing is made by UUID but now it seems it had a different than before (I unpluged and plugged )
[12:05] <MestreLion> Da_Wi: and the usual deniability disclaimer: be VERY careful when you tinkle with your BIOS...
[12:06] <cnf> damnit, so frustrating >,<
[12:06] <MestreLion> cnf: why you prefer tabs over windows?
[12:06] <cnf> MestreLion: because windows get lost
[12:07] <MestreLion> lost?
[12:07] <cnf> yes
[12:07] <MestreLion> err... double-click the terminal icon in launcher
[12:07] <Da_Wi> MestreLion, I know. I'm searching for the required infos. When I come back ... it worked. If not I screwd up everything! :D
[12:08]  * pangur has 15 minutes to go to finish backing up his data.
[12:08] <cnf> MestreLion: i don't want to work like that
[12:08] <cnf> i have 2 windows, sized and lined up just the way i want them
[12:08] <MestreLion> i hope he knows what "I screwd up everything" means when it comes to BIOS settings...
[12:09] <pangur> Once I have finished backing up my data, is the best way to restore my /usr/bin simply to reinstall my wubi installation?
[12:09] <cnf> 83c by 43r
[12:09] <cnf> side by side
[12:10] <[HUN]Btvilag> anyone with an idea
[12:10] <[HUN]Btvilag> about my issue
[12:10] <cnf> MestreLion: and i have little interest in changing my work habbits on that
[12:10] <jrib> !helpme | [HUN]Btvilag
[12:10] <cnf> i just expect new terminal tabs/windows to open in $HOME, and no where else
[12:11] <jrib> [HUN]Btvilag: uuid should not change because you unplugged and plugged it in somewhere else
[12:11] <jrib> [HUN]Btvilag: but I don't use lvm
[12:12] <MestreLion> cnf: they do when you use ctrl+alt+t
[12:12] <[HUN]Btvilag> jrib: thanks. is that like max address?
[12:12] <[HUN]Btvilag> mac*
[12:12] <cnf> MestreLion:  except that doesn't open new tabs
[12:12] <Eagleman> In what format do i add a dns entry to look at the ownt server in /etc/hosts?  I want hgg-fs to point to the local server
[12:12] <MestreLion> [HUN]Btvilag: kind of.. they only change when you format them
[12:13] <[HUN]Btvilag> how about new partition tabée?
[12:13] <[HUN]Btvilag> table
[12:13] <[HUN]Btvilag> ?
[12:13] <cnf> MestreLion: i want that behaviour off, not be forced into a new workflow
[12:13] <MestreLion> cnf: some options: 1) use a different terminal other than gnome-terminal (someone suggested terminator), 2) change the shell to a custom command like "bash -c 'cd $HOME'"
[12:14] <MestreLion> cnf: of 3) use Xmonad for perfectly aligned windows
[12:14] <cnf> i hate tiling WMs
[12:15] <jrib> cnf: if I can offer an alternative, have you considered simply using tmux or screen instead of two terminals?
[12:15] <pangur> Is 5.8MB/sec fairly slow for copying files?
[12:15] <cnf> jrib:  no, because that is again, a totally different workflow which doesn't fit me
[12:15] <cnf> and i don't like screen, nor tmux
[12:15] <jrib> cnf: ok
[12:16] <[HUN]Btvilag> ok thanks all now off later back with the same issue:S
[12:17] <MestreLion> cnf: you can also add 'cd "$HOME"' to your ~/.bashrc
[12:17] <ToyImp> y
[12:17] <jrib> cnf: how do you start the terminal?
[12:18] <ahhughes> when trying to update I get an error that says "Requires installation of untrusted packages".... Details: "eog" wtf is that?
[12:18] <cnf> jrib: i click the terminal icon twice
[12:19] <llutz> !info eog | ahhughes  update your apt-keys
[12:19] <MestreLion> cnf: may I ask what was your workflow before bumping into this issue?
[12:20] <cnf> MestreLion:  like i said, i open 2 terminal windows side by side
[12:20] <cnf> everything is tabs in either of those 2
[12:20] <cnf> right one is where i edit, left one is where i have output, or read stuff (man pages etc)
[12:21] <MestreLion> is adding 'cd "$HOME"' to your ~/.bashrc an acceptable solution ?
[12:21] <cnf> MestreLion:  it wouldn't do anything
[12:21] <cnf> because i don't use bash
[12:22] <cnf> also, it would mess with some of my other configs, i think
[12:22] <MestreLion> what shell do you use?
[12:22] <cnf> zsh
[12:23] <blackshirt> cnf, what are you trying to config?
[12:23] <MestreLion> and doesn't zsh have a similar option like ~/.bashrc ?
[12:23] <MestreLion> (also, I doubt a cd would mess with anything.. that's what you want actually)
[12:23] <BluesKaj> howdy all
[12:24] <cnf> blackshirt: NOT being thrown into another path when i open a new tab in gnome-terminal
[12:25] <ahhughes> llutz, kewl.. I tried `sudo apt_key update`... no joy. Am I doing something wrong?
[12:25] <MestreLion> cnf: actually, that's what a new tab does. it inherits the previous environment. what you want is for it TO throw you back to $HOME
[12:25] <blackshirt> yes
[12:26] <MestreLion> ahhughes: apt-key , not apt_key
[12:26] <wastrel> :[
[12:26] <ahhughes> yeah, I did apt-key :) sorry for typo in here
[12:27] <MestreLion> pastebin output
[12:27] <MestreLion> "no joy" is not very informative
[12:27] <cnf> MestreLion: no, i don't WANT to inherit anything
[12:27] <cnf> i have my own config, stop messing with it
[12:28] <ahhughes> MestreLion, it just halts the process.
[12:28] <ahhughes> MestreLion, as shown here, the only option is to 'close' http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/27045/
[12:28] <MestreLion> cnf: add 'cd "$HOME"' to ~/.zshrc
[12:29] <ardchoille> cnf: Just my opinion, but it appears that creating a new workflow and going from there would be beneficial. we all need to change things now and then because software is always changing and updating
[12:30] <MestreLion> did any software change in this case? what you used prior to gnome-terminal cnf ?
[12:30] <cnf> MestreLion: terminal.app
[12:30] <cnf> which i still use, at home
[12:31] <MestreLion> oh, osx ?
[12:32] <jrib> cnf: if I were in your shoes, I would do the following (I presume you are on 12.10 so I cannot help much as I'm still on 12.04): check dconf-editor for a relevant setting; apt-get source gnome-terminal and figure out what changed regarding how new tabs are handled (and then find a suitable way to change the behavior)
[12:32] <pangur> Now that all my data is backed up, what would be the best way to restore my inadvertently deleted /usr/bin?  My inclination is to download the latest wubi and reinstall.   However, if I could copy from my live cd a few restorative files that might be better?
[12:32] <cnf> MestreLion: yep
[12:32] <cnf> o,O
[12:32] <wastrel> afaicr gnome-terminal has always opened tabs in the cwd
[12:32] <cnf> "check dconf-editor"...
[12:33] <ardchoille> wastrel: still does here
[12:33] <dr_willis> pangur:  best would be to stay as far away from wubi as you can
[12:33] <pangur> Wubi has worked fairly well for me up until now, dr_willis - and this time, it was my own stupidity :)
[12:34] <auronandace> pangur: wubi isn't meant to be used as a long term solution
[12:34] <wastrel> reinstall would be my inclintation but if you want to do it the hard way you could copy /usr/bin from the livecd and then try to individually fix all the broken packages
[12:34] <cnf> idno what the hell i'm even looking for in dconf-editor
[12:35] <wastrel> cnf: apps > gnome-terminal  probably
[12:35] <wastrel> then look in each of the subcategories and see if there's a relevant config option (likely not)
[12:35] <MestreLion> jrib: nothing changed in gnome-terminal... it always worked like that
[12:35] <cnf> wastrel: you'd think so, but that's not there
[12:35] <jrib> MestreLion: oh
[12:36] <NastyNaz> weird question but what are the opendns.org dns addresses? I don't have a dns server so can't look them up :/
[12:36] <zetheroo> anyone have hotswap working in Ubuntu?
[12:36] <zetheroo> I have an Optical Drive and HDD caddy which I want to swap in my Ultrabay ...
[12:36] <wastrel> oh what's dconf-editor i thought we were talking about gconf-editor
[12:36] <llutz> NastyNaz: IP address:208.67.222.222   208.67.220.220
[12:37] <NastyNaz> llutz: thank you SO much!
[12:37] <zetheroo> but when I put the HDD caddy in there the drive does not mount
[12:38] <wastrel> it's in apps > gnome-terminal in gconf-editor
[12:38] <MestreLion> cnf: apart from an unknown, undocumented obscure setting hidden somewhere in dconf or gconf, gnome-terminal always open new tabs in pwd, not $HOME. so your options are to either add a harmless 'cd "$HOME"' to your ~/.zshrc file or use another terminal emulator. there are dozens available besides gnome-terminal
[12:38] <_black> 12.10 is giving me popups for updates :P
[12:38] <wastrel> _black: me too
[12:38] <MestreLion> wastrel: gconf and dconf are 2 config databes currently used in gnome.
[12:38] <_black> im afraid to update at this time :P
[12:38] <pangur> I have a Medion computer (which is touch screen in Windows).  Using wubi, I am able to boot into Ubuntu.  I tried once before to install Ubuntu in the traditional way from a CD and I got some message saying that I could only have four partitions on the Medion.  That is how I ended up using wubi.
[12:39] <wastrel> that's hella dumb i never heard of this dconf
[12:40] <MonkeyDust> pangur  that is correct, if you want more than 4 partitions, you need an extented partition
[12:40] <naxa> How can I update to unity 5.12 on 12.04? I did `sudo apt-get update` and `sudo-apt get upgrade` (said 0 upgraded), still, `unity --version` gives "5.10.0".  my lsb-release says I'm 12.04
[12:40] <blackshirt> if the repository provides the updates,you can update it
[12:40] <MestreLion> wastrel: then you're very outdated... gnome3 is gradually moving all its settings from gconf to dconf backend.
[12:41] <wastrel> MestreLion: yeah i just installed 12.10 i was using 10.10 until last week
[12:41] <blackshirt> mestrelion, what the differences between of both backends?
[12:41] <pangur> MonkeyDust, could I put Ubuntu on an extended partition?
[12:42] <MestreLion> blackshirt: i have no idea
[12:42] <MestreLion> pangur: yes
[12:42] <MestreLion> pangur: actually, in a logical partition inside the extended
[12:42] <zetheroo> hotswap in Ubuntu 12.04 ... need help getting this to work
[12:42] <blackshirt> mestrelion, what you mean with no idea? Do you don't know that?
[12:42] <pangur> OK, thanks.  That sounds more like what I should do rather than return to the wubi.
[12:43] <MestreLion> blackshirt: they are just 2 different database formats. maybe dconf improves some aspects of gconf. Maybe gnome just like to revamp eveything every couple of years :P
[12:44] <jrib> cnf: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1302396/ unless something changed in 12.10 you're out of luck unless you want to hack gnome-terminal.  Although I guess you should go look at terminal_screen_get_current_dir_with_fallback too.  Depends how committed you are
[12:44] <kollapse> Hello. I am getting an error while trying to install Teamviewer - http://pastie.org/5108775 Any help ?
[12:44] <MestreLion> blackshirt: All I know is that they are 2 disticnt databases, stored in distinct files, both can be accessed by the same gsettings interface. AS for the techinical differecenes between them, or why gnome created a brand new backend, I have no idea
[12:44] <naxa> blackshirt: I did `sudo apt-cache madison unity` but my repo only has 5.10.0. How do I get 5.12? which repo?
[12:46] <MestreLion> jrib: I think he is just trolling
[12:46] <MestreLion> wastrel: oh, maverick.. you will be much missed <3
[12:46] <Aristide> Hi !
[12:46] <cnf> jrib:  yeah, i'm not gonna hack gnome-terminal ^^; looking for another term emulator :/
[12:47] <Aristide> I have a problem with jack and Alsa. For create a bridge between Alsa to Jack, I must create a loopback. http://privatepaste.com/307e461f08 (for asoundrc). But the sound is bad :(
[12:47] <ardchoille> kollapse: which Ubuntu release are you running?
[12:47] <Aristide> Alsa is not bridge to Jack for the moment
[12:47] <wex> Hello  i installed today my first os other then windows so this was ubuntu 12.10
[12:47] <MestreLion> kollapse: teamviewer is not available in ubuntu official repos
[12:47] <wex> Need some hel to see the partition created with win
[12:47] <wex> *help
[12:48] <physically_fit> who here, having an old machine, right before attempting to install 12.10 got a message saying your graphic card wont's support unity and it will run slow, but you went for it and 12.10 runs better than expected on it?
[12:48] <MestreLion> cnf: you honestly think this is better than a simple 'cd' in ~/.zshrc ?!?!
[12:48] <kollapse> MestreLion, I know, I got the deb file from the site and followed http://www.ihaveapc.com/2012/03/how-to-install-teamviewer-7-in-linux-mint-ubuntu/
[12:48] <pangur> I like your nick, ardchoille  - Forest Height , I think it means.
[12:48] <cnf> MestreLion: people in #zsh think it's a bad, bad idea
[12:48] <ardchoille> pangur: Aye! "To the high trees!"
[12:48] <cnf> MestreLion: and tbh so do i
[12:48] <ardchoille> kollapse: which Ubuntu release are you running?
[12:49] <wex> Any1 how can i see the partition from windows
[12:49] <MestreLion> cnf: I would love to hear their reasons, but, hey... it's your workflow :)
[12:49] <kollapse> ardchoille, You got me - Mint
[12:49] <ardchoille> kollapse: Thought so, Mint isn't supported here. I wondered why you asked the same question here and in #linuxmint
[12:49] <cnf> MestreLion: please do remember i share my config across systems and operating systems
[12:49] <Aristide> I try to reboot my computer ><
[12:50] <kollapse> ardchoille, Probably because that room is silent almost all of the time.
[12:50] <MestreLion> cnf: thankfully 'cd' and '$HOME" are POSIX
[12:50] <cnf> MestreLion: zsh people are debating it, in zsh it's a BAD idea
[12:50] <dholbach> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek starting in 10 minutes in #ubuntu-classroom
[12:50] <cnf> they are now debating hacks to fix it
[12:50] <cnf> one uglier than the next
[12:50] <MestreLion> cnf: because... ?
[12:51] <cnf> idno, i'm not privvy to the innards of zsh yet
[12:51] <MestreLion> geez, it's a CD
[12:51] <ardchoille> "cd" is core, it should work regardless of $TERM
[12:51] <MestreLion> do they need to debate how bad a cd "$HOME" is to an rc file??
[12:53] <Guest87843>  can i install 0.24 fixes mythfrontend on 3.2.0-23 generic platform
[12:53] <MestreLion> kollapse: official mint support channel is not in this server
[12:55] <MestreLion> cnf: if you can, please post a summary of their reasons in a private window... I'm really curious on why would someone say a cd $HOME is *BAD*
[12:56] <MestreLion> kollapse: also, I know this is not what you asked but... both ubuntu and mint have many better alternatives to teamview.. native ones
[12:57] <MestreLion> teamview is not only proprietary and closed-sourse, but also is a windows app inside a build-in wine
[12:58] <MestreLion> also, teamview is not a replacement for logmein... at least not for free
[12:58] <kollapse> MestreLion, do you mean VNC / RDP ?
[12:59] <MestreLion> yes, those are the most popular alternatives
[12:59] <cnf> MestreLion:  i don't understand most of it, but zsh does a lot of precompiling of settings etc
[12:59] <MestreLion> you can even use ssh and remotely open x windows
[13:00] <cnf> MestreLion:  they came up with an ugly hack to detect if it was actually gnome-terminal that was the caller, and hacking that in
[13:01] <MestreLion> eww
[13:03] <cnf> MestreLion: yes, a hack
[13:03] <MestreLion> does it need to be more complicated than [[ "$TERM" = xterm ]] && cd "$HOME"
[13:03] <MestreLion> ?
[13:04] <Guest41270> after installing 12.10, my computer no sound, help
[13:04] <mwic> hey guys, I'm running Distribution upgrade to get from 11.10 to 12.4 , but it is apparently proposing to remove "nvidia-current" package and I'm not sure why
[13:04] <mwic> or what's going to replace it?
[13:06] <SharkMuttleworth> mwic: Probably because you have to explicitly enable the properietary driver repository in each version. I guess if you remove it will just use the open source "nouveau" driver
[13:07] <Guest41270> after installing 12.10, my computer no sound, help
[13:07] <mwic> thx .. love yr nick btw
[13:07] <SharkMuttleworth> mwic: I'd always do a clean install if you can spare the time, had too many fuckups from in-place upgradeing
[13:07] <SharkMuttleworth> mwic: Cheers
[13:08] <angs>  what is the ubuntu command to check if I have libnl?
[13:08] <mwic> in-place upgrading still doesn't work ?
[13:08] <mwic> ? (!)
[13:10] <wastrel> angs: you could do dpkg -l | grep libnl
[13:11] <angs> wastrel: thank you!
[13:11] <dr_willis> mwic: what?
[13:11] <mwic> dr_jesus,  the Distribution  Upgrade is apparently not reliable yet?
[13:11] <mwic> sorry i meant dr_willis
[13:11] <jpds> mwic: Pardon?
[13:11] <dr_willis> it works for many
[13:12] <Unicron_> hi - anyway when installing a package via apt-get to pass options?  specifically want postgresql to have a different data_directory without having to do it post install
[13:13] <mwic> Unicron_, that would be awesome but I highly doubt it
[13:13] <hualet> hello everybody, when i did 'mount -t debugfs debugfs /sys/kernel/debug/ ', i got this error message  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1302457/ can anybody help me
[13:14] <Unicron_> mwic, using chef and it makes it kinda awkward to do an initdb after the fact - get rid of the original data_dir etc..
[13:14] <wastrel> if you're using chef you can tell chef to make the changes can't you?
[13:15] <Unicron_> yes, but postgresql installs with default conf,, creates data dir and starts the server - then you have to create the new directory - initialise it and restart then remove the old one - just makes things more complicated
[13:16] <hualet> some one give me a hand, please.... :-(
[13:17] <dr_willis> with?)
[13:18] <hualet> when i did 'mount -t debugfs debugfs /sys/kernel/debug/ ', i got this error message  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1302457/
[13:18] <hualet> dr_willis, can you help me ?
[13:19] <dr_willis> nope.. never even heard of debugfs
[13:19] <mimir> hi, i'm using ubuntu 12.10. is there any way of making the unity launcher smaller? i don't want it to take all my height... ie: i just want to be from top to bottom of my screen.. just half or something like that
[13:19] <hualet> ok...
[13:19] <wastrel> mimir: there is a way to make the launcher smaller
[13:20] <dr_willis> mimir: you can make it narrow er
[13:20] <wastrel> mimir: open system settings > appearance  there's a slider at the bottom
[13:21] <wastrel> oh i see
[13:21] <MestreLion> i think mimir means shorter, not narrower
[13:21] <wastrel> you want it shorter not narrower
[13:21] <wastrel> there's not a way to do that
[13:21] <mimir> wastrel: that's to make it narrower (ie: make the icons smaller)
[13:22] <mimir> i want to be able to make it shorter
[13:22] <mimir> don't want it taking all my screen
[13:22] <mimir> i want to have to have the desktop in the rest of the screen, as i can do mouse gestures over desktop, not over it
[13:22] <mimir> MestreLion: you are right
[13:23] <ardchoille> mimir: would those mouse gestures work while the unity launcher is active?
[13:23] <Rods_Tiger> Something odd has happened since I upgraded my installation to 12:10 - any powerpoint I used to be able to show, all my class lectures, now doesn't load into impress, instead it loads into writer and displays nonsense characters instead, in a word processor doc.
[13:24] <mimir> ardchoille: basically what i'm doing is using my mouse buttongs to change workspaces, well, viewports, and they work just fine over desktop, but not over any kind of window, that including the launcher
[13:24] <ardchoille> Rods_Tiger: sounds like you did something that changed file associations
[13:24] <Rods_Tiger> no, I did nothing. I'd know about it if I did.
[13:24] <Rods_Tiger> All I did, as I explained, was to upgrade to 12:10.
[13:24] <ardchoille> mimir: if the unity launcher is a type of menu, then mouse gestures may not work while that "menu" is active, that's how most menus work
[13:25] <Rods_Tiger> Before, it worked, and I could use my material to teach with, now, since the upgrade, I'm unable to.
[13:25] <MestreLion> mimir: as a quite extreme workaround you may use another desktop (besides unity) and install a laucher like AWN, which has this kind of customization
[13:25] <mimir> ardchoille: yeah, but if i make it smaller, since i won't be over it, it won't be active, so i will be able to use it...
[13:25] <mimir> MestreLion: tried it, didn't liked it... :)
[13:25] <ardchoille> Rods_Tiger: right-click a presentation, choose "Properties", then go to the "open with" tab and see which app is default to open the file
[13:26] <Rods_Tiger> It is impress.
[13:26] <ardchoille> mimir: you need to test that, most menus it doesn't matter if you're "over" them, they deactivate other mouse gestures. You should test that
[13:26] <MatBoy> guys, I cannot resolve domainnames, only their subdomains... what can be wrong here ?
[13:26] <MatBoy> guys, I cannot resolve domainnames, only their subdomains... what can be wrong here ?
[13:26] <MatBoy> oops,sorry
[13:26] <ardchoille> Rods_Tiger: Well, there goes my idea, lol
[13:27] <wastrel> Rods_Tiger: if you file-open from within impress does it work?
[13:27] <Rods_Tiger> Even if I explicitly open impress, then go to open from there, it still goes into writer as nonsense characters instead. Nothing's changed as far as I'm concerned, it just stopped working, and it stops me from working too.
[13:27] <mimir> ardchoille: now over unity launcher, i can't use my mouse gestures, that's why i want to make it smaller
[13:27] <ardchoille> mimir: what I'm saying is it may not matter how small it is, the launcher may deactivate mouse gestures
[13:27] <wastrel> hm i don't even have ooimpress i have libreoffice
[13:28] <Rods_Tiger> this is libreoffice
[13:28] <MestreLion> Rods_Tiger:  "Even if I explicitly open impress, then go to open from there, it still goes into writer" - this is very worrying
[13:28] <wastrel> maybe change from ooimpress to loimpress ?
[13:28] <wastrel> in the open with thingy
[13:28] <Rods_Tiger> it's whatever is on ubuntu - it comes with libreoffice, doesn't it.
[13:29] <ardchoille> libreoffice
[13:29] <MatBoy> mhh, anyone an idea ? none of my servers can't it seems
[13:29] <MestreLion> Rods_Tiger: it used to come with OpenOffice... then changed to LibreOffice, which is a fork of OO
[13:30] <Rods_Tiger> well, it was libreoffice before the upgrade, and it's libreoffice now that the upgrade has crippled it.
[13:30] <MestreLion> Rods_Tiger: hence the terms "ooimpress" and "loimpress" to tell them apart
[13:30] <wastrel> and the open with thingy is loimpress rather than ooimpress?
[13:30] <wastrel> Rods_Tiger: what if you do loimpress <filename> at the terminal ?
[13:30] <Rods_Tiger> why are we even talking about open office? I didn't mention it at all.
[13:30] <MestreLion> wastrel: it is LO since 11.04
[13:30] <Rods_Tiger> I don't have open office.
[13:30] <wastrel> because i'm from olden days and i used to use ooffice
[13:30] <wastrel> ok i'm sorry
[13:30] <wastrel> i haven't used ubuntu since a long time
[13:31] <jpds> MatBoy: dig +trace domain.com
[13:31] <wastrel> i don't know from these modern distros from 2011
[13:32] <MestreLion> Rods_Tiger: please try this in a terminal and pastebin the whole session: file /path/to/some-presentation-youre-trying-to-open
[13:32] <Rods_Tiger> well, it worked last week, but now I've updated to 12:10 it doesn't. Nothing else has changed.
[13:32] <redwarriors25> how to backup files in ubuntu
[13:32] <MatBoy> jpds: that gives reply
[13:32] <MestreLion> redwarriors25: it comes with Deja-Dup pre-installed, and I recommend it
[13:32] <dr_willis> !backup
[13:32] <Rods_Tiger> I'll go and try that then. I have to reboot as I'm back on OS X now, in order to actually get work done.
[13:32] <redwarriors25> i see
[13:32] <redwarriors25> 12.10?
[13:33] <ardchoille> Rods_Tiger: was this impress document created in MS Excel?
[13:34] <Rods_Tiger> No, it's created the usual way for me, that I've been doing for years — create either in Google Docs, or directly in Keynote, then export as .ppt, because apparently Libreoffice doesn't read keynote docs, and I was told I have to do this instead.
[13:34] <VinceBrowning> Can anyone explain to me how to use xchat and IRC in general? I dont know how to access the channels under Ubuntu
[13:35] <Rods_Tiger> The current .ppt files I use lately are all exported from Keynote, and of course, have been working for several years in Libreoffice, until just now. Nothing in the files has changed, they're not newly created.
[13:35] <dr_willis> VinceBrowning: xchats help menu usrd to have beginner guides
[13:36] <VinceBrowning> ty dr_willis
[13:36] <Rods_Tiger> If libreoffice directly read keynote docs I wouldn't have to mess around with all this .ppt intermediary nonsense.
[13:36] <teel> is it possible to use gnome2 in the new ubuntu version?
[13:36] <teel> or atleast a look-alike?
[13:37] <dr_willis> !classic
[13:37] <blackness> how do you change the theme for GDM?
[13:37] <teel> i mean in the _new_ ubuntu
[13:37] <blackness> 12.10 teel ?
[13:38] <dr_willis> !nounity
[13:38] <teel> yes
[13:38] <teel> that will work withhout problem?
[13:38] <redwarriors25> deja jup in 12.10?
[13:38] <teel> or it will f*ck up everything?
[13:38] <michealPW> I seem to have lost the default theme for LightDM that ships with Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. Anybody know where I can find it?
[13:38] <dr_willis> i dont use it..
[13:39] <teel> can i do distro-update safely or that will nullify everything like it once did?
[13:39] <InstantKrimson> teel: have you tried Cinnamon (Linux Mint's UI)? Also a very nice gnome2 look-alike....
[13:39] <teel> and what is a "ubuntu setup" and how does it compare to a PC/MAC? http://www.ubuntu.com/static/u/img/ubuntu/ubuntuforyou-laptop-bubble.jpg
[13:40] <teel> no im still on 11.04 ;)
[13:40] <teel> i tried the follower once but didnt like unity, and etc
[13:41] <teel> but there seem to come no more updates (only very rarely) so i think about upgrading
[13:41] <dr_willis> !11.04
[13:41] <dyd> can somebody help me? i'm lost... apt-get -f install is not working :( http://pastebin.com/GTXUvFcf
[13:41] <dr_willis> not sure when its eol.
[13:42] <teel> eol?
[13:42] <blackness> end of life
[13:42] <dr_willis> !eol
[13:42] <mirela666> Hi, I'm having some 404 issue for some package index when trying to upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10
[13:43] <dr_willis> !natty
[13:43] <teel> haha mirela666! thanks for the info! i just askes about if distro-update can be done by now safely unlike in the past, i mean were in the year 2012 so such things should actually be working
[13:44] <mirela666> teel: :)
[13:44] <teel> we're flying to mars etc, cloning sheeps but can't do a safe distro-upgrade
[13:45] <blackness> !ot | teel
[13:45] <teel> !guidelines
[13:45] <dr_willis> i find it faster to clean install. cleans out my cruft also.
[13:45] <bert_mackland> I am running 12.04 and cannot find a way to have sound in console mode
[13:46] <dr_willis> i beta test a lot....
[13:46] <teel> is there a way, if i was to just backup my home folder, that linux will clean out the unused garbage when copying it to a clean version?
[13:46] <michealPW> Ohhh I think I know what happened... My LightDM is no longer using the Unity Greeter, maybe!
[13:46] <michealPW> Lets see if I can't figure this out, hrmm
[13:46] <blackness> Anyone care to explain, i setup Two laptops at the same time with 12.04.1, switched from lightdm to GDM, one GDM theme is different then the other. any ideas why?
[13:47] <mirela666> Failed to fetch bzip2:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/rs.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_quantal_main_source_Sources  Hash Sum mismatch
[13:47] <SuperLag> Is the only way to disable bluetooth on startup, is by disabling Network Manager?
[13:47] <MestreLion> teel: you can either use a tool like deja-dup, or simply tar you home dir
[13:47] <blackness> one of them had lightdm removed aswell.
[13:47] <SuperLag> How exactly do you disable bluetooth on startup?
[13:47] <SuperLag> (in 12.10)
[13:47] <MestreLion> SuperLag: you can disable it in bios
[13:48] <bert_mackland> can anyone help with sound in console mode?
[13:48] <MestreLion> SuperLag: or using an FN+<some F-XX> key
[13:48] <dr_willis> bert_mackland: with what app?
[13:48] <teel> well thanks for now, i will consider upgrading now
[13:48] <SuperLag> MestreLion: not exactly... no BIOS here. I'm on a Mac, and this is in a VM. And I use Bluetooth on the Mac
[13:48] <MestreLion> bert_mackland: what kind of sound?
[13:48] <SuperLag> but not in the VM
[13:49] <bert_mackland> dr_willis: clementine
[13:49] <sophos> I get problem with ubuntu 12.10. After each start, I get system crashed warning. What is up with that?
[13:49] <MatBoy> weird, I cannot ping but dig works
[13:49] <bert_mackland> MestreLion: I am trying to play music while I am on tty1
[13:49] <MatBoy> I mean, nslookup does not work
[13:49] <blackness> what are the details of the crashed warning sophos ?
[13:49] <MestreLion> SuperLag: do VMs now expose bluetooth ??
[13:50] <sophos> I dont read them. I get the small window saying report error or close it, blackness.
[13:50] <SuperLag> MestreLion: apparently... I didn't think of turning it off from VMware. Completely forgot about that aspect. I'm going to check there.
[13:50] <blackness> Well, reading them might allow us to help you with the problem.
[13:51] <dr_willis> or its just seeing old crash reports
[13:51] <sophos> Well ok, I will come back next time when I boot on my pc again. Thanks anyway
[13:51] <SuperLag> MestreLion: that did the trick... VMware Fustion 5 gives you the option of sharing your BT devices with the VM
[13:51] <dr_willis> it can be disabled
[13:52] <MestreLion> SuperLag: :)
[13:52] <michealPW> aHAH!
[13:52] <SuperLag> Time to ditch this crusty RHEL VM and move to Ubuntu.
[13:53] <redwarriors25> deja jup in 12.10?
[13:54] <dr_willis>  its in the repos i think.
[13:54] <michealPW> That's all that happened. When I installed KUbuntu, it set the lightDM greeter to lightdm-kde-greeter. So I think I can just set it to unity-greeter and it will be back like a default Ubuntu 12.04, correct?
[13:55] <dr_willis> should be michealPW
[13:55] <dr_willis> try it and see
[13:56] <MestreLion> redwarriors25: deja-dup, and it's installed by default since 12.04
[13:56] <MestreLion> it even pops up the after the first boot
[13:57] <michealPW> mm, should I use this /usr/lib/lightdm/lightdm-set-defaults --greeter=unity-greeter or manually edit /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf with vim?
[13:57] <michealPW> Oh, I guess either way works.
[13:57] <MestreLion> michealPW: the former is safer
[13:58] <michealPW> I used that script and then opened the lightdm.conf and it modified the file properly according to the manual so hmm I guess that script is the best approach :P
[13:58] <dr_willis> backup the conf just in case
[13:58] <MestreLion> avoid hand-editing config files if there's a command that does that for you :)
[13:58] <michealPW> Thx everyone!
[13:59] <michealPW> So I had it all wrong. It didn't change the "theme" it totaly changed the greeter. Pretty cool that LightDM can have different greeters like that hehe.
[13:59] <milfoil> hi.  i'm having some trouble video a slow desktop and ui with 12.10.  my computer has an ati es1000 video card [128m of ram], which seems to be recognized and is using the radeon and radeonfb kernel modules as far as i can tell, but performance seems to really be suffering.
[13:59] <michealPW>  Also, lightDM is only ~5k lines to GDM's ~50k lines (rofl) talk about light-weight :P
[13:59] <milfoil> *video and a
[14:00] <michealPW> I can totaly see why Canonical adopted lightDM as the main DM, now that I've got it working properly LOL!
[14:00] <michealPW> Oh, need to make sure I can still log-out/restart/shutdown hehe, brb
[14:00] <redwarriors25> how about 8+ version is there any
[14:01] <Grol> milfoil: what CPU and how much RAM?
[14:03] <cnf> ooowkay, running a VM inside a VM isn't easy :P
[14:04] <milfoil> Grol: dual 2.5ghz xeon quad core and 32gb of ram
[14:04] <Bustacap> Any way for ubuntu to restore itself to all default settings without a reinstallation/
[14:04] <michealPW> Yay!
[14:04] <michealPW> I figured it out, hehe!
[14:04] <michealPW> Got my normal Ubuntu log-in, that shows the background picture from each account heehee. So pretty :)
[14:05] <Grol> milfoil: should be enough power
[14:05] <milfoil> Grol: yeah, i would think so.  that's why i think it maybe has something to do with the video card/drivers.
[14:05] <MestreLion> michealPW: what's the difference between a "theme" and a "greeter" ?
[14:05] <milfoil> but i'm having trouble figuring out how to troubleshoot further.
[14:07] <michealPW> MestreLion: From an end-user's perspective, not much. Technically speaking, though, the "theme" changes the way the "greeter" looks. The "Greeter" is the program that you interact with when you log-in to Ubuntu.
[14:08] <Grol> milfoil: deactivate 3D-stuff, try original radeon-driver over repository
[14:08] <michealPW> MestreLion: LightDM can have different greeters. Most traditional desktop managers, like GDM (GNOME Desktop Manager) or KDM (KDE Desktop Manager) have a built-in greeter and so you can only change the theme for that built-in greeter.
[14:09] <MestreLion> michealPW: humm...
[14:09] <milfoil> Grol: ok, i'll try that.  what do you mean by "over repository"?
[14:09] <MestreLion> I assumed the greeter *was* == lightDm
[14:09] <michealPW> MestreLion: With LightDM, the greeter is a plug-in. There's a unity-greeter, a lightdm-gtk-greeter (Tightly integrated with GNOME) and a lightdm-kde-greeter (Tightly integrated with KDE)
[14:09] <michealPW> MestreLion: So did I, haha.
[14:10] <Grol> milfoil: Install by synaptic - NOT download from web and manual install
[14:10] <drworm> if you are having problems with 12.10 and an older ATI card, you'll have to download the legacy 12.6 drivers from ATI's website and install after purging fglrx and fglrx-amdcccle
[14:10] <milfoil> Grol: i see.
[14:11] <michealPW> MestreLion: Technically speaking, what's going on with the different greeters is integration with your Desktop Environment. So, for example, I use KDE which is based on the Qt graphics library. So all the windows and buttons are made with the Qt library.. So to have a greeter that draws a pretty log-in screen using, say, GTK (The GIMP Toolkit, which is what GNOME uses as it's graphics library, not QT) it adds a whole layer of memory (Loading GTK) when
[14:11] <michealPW> really your desktop uses Qt..
[14:11] <wols_> "greeter"? wtf?
[14:12] <michealPW> wols_: Greeters are the userland programs that present you with a login/password form and hand-off what you type in to PAM, the Personal Account Manager. Iunno much 'bout PAM :P
[14:12] <wols_> michealPW: display manager. ever heard of it?
[14:13] <michealPW> I imagine PAM is basically like the NT SAM, though.
[14:13] <michealPW> wols_: Right, monolithic Display Managers like GDM or KDM have built-in greeters. LightDM does not, it has extensible greeters.
[14:13] <lotuspsychje> i cant get flash 11.2 to work on xubuntu 12.04.1 any suggestions?
[14:14] <michealPW> lotuspsychje: Do you have to install the ubuntu-restricted-extras package, or have you already?
[14:14] <michealPW> I can't remember. I think I just went to adobe.com and got flash from there hehe.
[14:15] <lotuspsychje> michaelPW: think i tryed the xubuntu-restricted-extras on it
[14:15] <SadlyMistaken> Hello everybody, i would love to know how to configurate or install the plugin of JAVA in firefox, because in the guides i read, it is not working. Please help me
[14:15] <Grol> I always isntall flash over Synaptic- never got problems
[14:15] <lotuspsychje> Grol:what version?
[14:15] <SadlyMistaken> I use ubuntu 12.04, and firefox 14
[14:16] <lotuspsychje> !java | SadlyMistaken
[14:16] <Grol> Always the version from repository - dont know what number
[14:16] <ciphered> when trying to sniff overe my wireless network (already authenticated and logged in) i am not able to see the ethernet packets from the clients to the internet or vice versa, i can only see ethernet headers of my client pc (192.168.1.100) here is a snapshop, only LLC are seen as network activity, i need to see all packets from other clients to the internet http://justpaste.it/saved/1175073/fe8cabc1
[14:16] <lotuspsychje> Grol:i think its latest that bugs on my system
[14:16] <michealPW> Oh yea, Grol's right. It's in the repository as "flashlugin-nonfree"
[14:16] <SharkMuttleworth> SadlyMistaken: Java isn't an acronym
[14:17] <ciphered> sorry http://justpaste.it/1g79
[14:17] <Grol> yes, always with firefox
[14:18] <lotuspsychje> Grol:ill try from synaptic
[14:20] <SadlyMistaken> It doesn't work :_(
[14:20] <SadlyMistaken> I mean, I need a plugin, but the plugin doesn't install
[14:20] <lotuspsychje> SadlyMistaken:did you install the icedtea plugin?
[14:21] <klpkt> Hello, I have a question. Is it normal that whenever I plug in my headphones, the volume turns way down?
[14:21] <SadlyMistaken> I am pressing over this link the page offers me, but nothing happends
[14:21] <SadlyMistaken> I mean, they treat to open it with Center of Software.. i press AGREE
[14:22] <SadlyMistaken> but nothing begins to be installed.
[14:22] <lotuspsychje> SadlyMistaken:try it from terminal
[14:23] <SadlyMistaken> uhmm.. only "sudo apt-get install icedtea"
[14:23] <SadlyMistaken> It isn't in the repositories
[14:23] <XORwhore> klpkt: no, I think I might have had an issue like that way back in the day though
[14:24] <blackness> IS there a reason i keep getting 'update to 12.10' like every hour after i click cancel?
[14:24] <michealPW> SadlyMistaken: It's icedtea-7-plugin
[14:24] <michealPW> SadlyMistaken: Always remember, apt-cache search is your friend. I did: apt-cache search icedtea to find that :P
[14:24] <XORwhore> klpkt: check your sound preferences and make sure that the headset volume is adequate compared to the master volume
[14:24] <Guillem> blackness, sure, that you have not updated
[14:25] <blackness> i dont want to update yet, so how do i disable this?
[14:25] <Guillem> blackness, you can set to ask for upgrading only for LTS releases
[14:25] <MestreLion> michealPW: thanks SO much for the amazing lessong about greeters :)
[14:25] <marenostrum> Ubuntu 12.04 here. For some reason I need to start Calibre with something different than my locale which is Turkish. Its OK if I start it from the terminal with the command LC_ALL=C calibre . I want to make it parmanent, ie I want to have the same result when I click from the Unity launcher. I found the file /usr/share/applications/calibre.desktop and tried to edit it but it didn't yield the expected result. Most probably I don't know how to edit i
[14:25] <marenostrum> t, or that's not the file to be edited. Any idea how I can do this?
[14:25] <michealPW> MestreLion: haha, don't mind me I talk a lot (blush)
[14:25] <blackness> Guillem, do you know how i would do that?
[14:26] <Eagleman> >Some clients unfortunately try to do plaintext authentication without STARTTLS  So i can see the passwords in wireshark being sent?
[14:26] <Guillem> blackness, at the repositories setup dialog there is a checkbox for that
[14:26] <blackness> Software Center repo setup?
[14:26] <SadlyMistaken> Thanks
[14:26] <michealPW> marenostrum: You can change the shortcut itself for Calibre. It will be in /usr/share/applications
[14:26] <SadlyMistaken> Ok, and now, which is the next step?
[14:26] <SadlyMistaken> rebooting firefox?
[14:26] <Guillem> blackness, I would say yes. Since I've upgraded myself I cannot check it in the same release than you....
[14:27] <blackness> You're on 12.10?
[14:27] <michealPW> marenostrum: I find it's easier to find things in /usr/share/applications from the terminal, 'cause friggin' Dolphin wont show them as the text-based .desktop files that they are hehe.
[14:27] <Guillem> yes
[14:27] <blackness> 3.5 Kernel?
[14:27] <lotuspsychje> SadlyMistaken: or system reboot might do the trick too
[14:27] <Guillem>  3.5.0-17-generic
[14:27] <SadlyMistaken> lotuspsychje: uhm, ok, I will back in some minutes
[14:27] <SadlyMistaken> thanks
[14:28] <michealPW> marenostrum: Basically your entire menu is made up of those .desktop files stored in /usr/share/applications. You can open them with a text-editor such as vim (from a terminal) or Gedit (From Unity) and what you're looking for is the "Exec" line, you can add switches or arguments right there
[14:28] <blackness> okay. thanks for your help, btw you dont use GDM do you Guillem ?
[14:28] <lotuspsychje> I got a freeze on usb 12.10 install just before the parttioning screen..any thoughts?
[14:28] <Guillem> blackness, actually I do
[14:28] <blackness> how do i change the themes?
[14:28] <donofrio> folks - without suggestiing to reinstall workstation how would I resolve the
[14:28] <donofrio> root@donofrio-OptiPlex-745:~# apt-get install unity
[14:28] <donofrio> Reading package lists... Done
[14:28] <donofrio> Building dependency tree
[14:28] <donofrio> Reading state information... Done
[14:28] <donofrio> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
[14:28] <FloodBot1> donofrio: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:28] <Guillem> blackness, I use gnome-shell and in 12.10 it does not lock screen unless when GDM is on
[14:28] <pestilence> could somebody help me understand what's going on at the top of my screen by the clock?  I have several apps that can show up there (e.g. pidgin, spotify, skype), but they will randomly disappear even though the application is still running.  where did they go?
[14:29] <pestilence> how can I see them without just force killing them?
[14:29] <Guillem> blackness, but I've not been able to change anything about it
[14:29] <XORwhore> lotuspsychje: check that the disk/usb isn't damaged?
[14:29] <Guillem> GDM I mean
[14:29] <donofrio> this is a 12.10 install
[14:29] <donofrio> no unity at all currently
[14:29] <blackness> i use OpenBox, with GDM for login windows. and ive seen in 11.10 you could set the theme with GDM-Theme GUI, but i doesn't work past 11.10.
[14:29] <donofrio> just managed to get xterm up and installed xchat for help
[14:29] <Grol> what has better 3D support: xubuntu or lubuntu?
[14:29] <Guillem> blackness, btw, there is something called "Software Sources" where at "updates" tab you can select "Notify me a new Ubunto version:"
[14:30] <blackness> yes, i just found it Guillem
[14:30] <Guillem> nice
[14:30] <marenostrum> michealPW, what should I write after exec= ? At the moment there only writes calibre. Editing it as LC_ALL=C calibre does not do the job. I am not sure about what I should write. Thanks for your help.
[14:30] <donofrio> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1302622/
[14:30] <donofrio> should be better
[14:30] <klpkt> Hello? I have a problem on my Ubuntu computer, whenever I plug in my headphones, the volume drops way down.
[14:31] <donofrio> still need help
[14:31] <michealPW> marenostrum: Change the "Exec" line from, say: Exec=/usr/bin/calibre to Exec: export LC_ALL=C calibre; /usr/bin/calibre. If you get errors, it might be because of the spaces in that, try playing with quotation marks a bit. Good luck! :)
[14:31] <donofrio> klpkt - alsamixer resolves that
[14:32] <donofrio> anyone know about the missing packages for unity compiz-core-abiversion-20120920 and libnux-abiversion-20120917.01
[14:32] <klpkt> donofrio: Yeah, I know that, and I use it, but I have to fix it every single time... Isn't there a way to do it automatically?
[14:32] <michealPW> I'm not an expert with the shell, but I think if you do export LC_ALL=C calibre; it will execute that (Which will update our LC_ALL environment variable) and then execute /usr/bin/calibre afterwards.
[14:32] <marenostrum> michealPW, Thanks a lot. I'll try. :))
[14:32] <michealPW> Maybe somebody else can help with exactly how to craft your Exec, but I think that's how.
[14:32] <michealPW> marenostrum: No problem. Good luck, mate! :)
[14:33] <reuf> how can i shorten display name of files on my desktop - to limit the number of characters displayed?
[14:33] <michealPW> btw I didn't even realize I had calibre installed and that it's an ebook reader.. Nice! :)
[14:33] <omnip0> Hello, I have win8 with NTFS. I have shrinked my partition and made a fat32 to install ubuntu there, but when I start ubuntu installer It shows that there is no partition on the drive at all. It is interesting, because the gparted cannot the the partitions, but the ubuntu drive manager can see it. Do es someon  have an instant solution to install ubuntu somehow? Thank you.
[14:34] <marenostrum> michealPW, Yes e-book reader. Useful tool. :)
[14:34] <lotuspsychje> XORwhore:i tryed the usb stick both, but good idea maybe ill try another stick
[14:35] <XORwhore> lotuspsychje: make sure to check the md5sum from the ubuntu website as well
[14:35] <SharkMuttleworth> reuf: Find which bit of software reads the names of Desktop files, change the code, recompile it
[14:35] <SadlyMistaken> Hello I am here again. I just installed icedtea7-plugin, and i just reboot the system. NOW i can't to open firefox
[14:35] <SadlyMistaken> can someone help me please?
[14:36] <zvacet> As far I can see upgrade to 12.10 is possible only from network is that correct?
[14:36] <lotuspsychje> XORwhore:ok ill try
[14:36] <archlich> anyone know where i can find documentation on why pid and socket files are now in /run instead of /var
[14:36] <reuf> SharkMuttleworth: i downloaded nautilus source - and im greping through it - i found some changes to make to labels of icons, but cannot seem to find how to shorten file names
[14:36] <SadlyMistaken> a windows tell me "Your firefox profile cannot be loaded. It maybe missing or innacesible"
[14:36] <klpkt> Can anyone help me?
[14:37] <SharkMuttleworth> archlich: http://wiki.debian.org/ReleaseGoals/RunDirectory#Overview
[14:38] <SharkMuttleworth> reuf: I was sort of joking, I'm impressed you went to so much effort for a fairly trivial customization
[14:38] <archlich> SharkMuttleworth: thank you
[14:39] <SharkMuttleworth> archlich: I think /run was originally proposed by Fedora developers, could be mistaken. Possibly one of Lennart Poettering's projects
[14:39] <darvin33> hello where can i donwload ubuntu gnome remix 12.10?
[14:39] <michealPW> I think you're right, SharkMuttleworth
[14:40] <gordonjcp> SharkMuttleworth: sounds like Lennart's genius
[14:40] <donofrio> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1302622/ - need resolution to this **anyone know*** this is from my 12.10 day-to-day workstation @ work
[14:41] <veryape> darvin33: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/ReleaseNotes/12.10
[14:41] <reuf> SharkMuttleworth: here i edited the source two days ago to have names next to icons > http://askubuntu.com/questions/164284/how-do-have-icons-in-a-listview-on-desktop/203871#203871
[14:42] <donofrio> anyone else running 12.10 and do a update-disto -y today???
[14:42] <reuf> i wrote the procedure there
[14:42] <zvacet> is there any other way to upgrade to 12.10 then using update manager?
[14:42] <archlich> SharkMuttleworth: i dont understand why they'd create yet another directory, there's reasons why you don't want /var/run or /var/lock to be a tempfs
[14:43] <somsip> zvacet: do-release-upgrade in a terminal. Update first though, of course
[14:43] <zvacet> somsip:  so it is not possible to use cd/dvd usb
[14:43] <SharkMuttleworth> archlich: It makes more sense logically, given the nature of the files
[14:44] <donofrio> anyone else having unity launcher issues in 12.10 this morning
[14:44] <SharkMuttleworth> archlich: Lennart gives his jusitfication here: http://lwn.net/Articles/436012/
[14:44] <somsip> zvacet: I don't know. You didn't ask that at first. Over to someone else...
[14:44] <donofrio> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1302622/ - package pulled?  no replacement systems almost unusable...
[14:45] <zvacet> somsip:  I know how to upgrade using terminal but I˙m iterested in upgrading from cd/dvd or usb
[14:45] <blez> I'm thinking to install 12.04
[14:45] <blez> I got 11
[14:45] <blez> but is there an easy way to change the system colors?
[14:45] <blez> cause in 11, it was pain
[14:45] <tdrizzy> I'm currently trying to write an upstart script. I need the demonized process to have access to an environment variable, but it doesn't. Is there any particular trick so that the daemon has access to an environment variable set within the upstart script?
[14:47] <blez> hey
[14:48] <Calinou> 11 != 11.04, 11.10
[14:48] <Calinou> use the real version number; this is not linux mint
[14:49] <yeehi> I created a live CD/USB. I only set 1GB for storage on the live USB - now I need to increase that storage allowance - how do i do that? I am using the live USB now...
[14:49] <blez> it doesn't matter
[14:51] <soman> Hi all. Which good programs do you know for a task list on a desktop? I need auto startup on PC run, changable bgrnd colours, such as standart app in Win7
[14:51] <SharkMuttleworth> soman: Gedit
[14:51] <deadmund> SharkMuttleworth: how disingenuous
[14:51] <deadmund> soman: task list: ps -e or top
[14:51] <Calinou> deadmund: inb4 bash script
[14:52] <adac> "Dir.foreach('../path/to/folder') do |file|" does notr work since it cannot find the folder (due to relative path?) Any ideas?
[14:52] <somsip> soman: you want cli or gui?
[14:52] <soman> sorry guys
[14:53] <lotuspsychje> !info htop | soman
[14:53] <lb> soman, maybe you were searching for something like conky
[14:53] <soman> I am not good at english.. No tasks in OS (such as processes) but an empty GUI field at desktop where I can write my own tasks for a day for example\
[14:53] <lotuspsychje> ah post-it?
[14:53] <somsip> soman: you want gui or cli?
[14:54] <soman> gui
[14:54] <lb> soman, tomboy?
[14:54] <soman> sorry for wrong explanation
[14:54] <marianna> I'm having this problem. Any ideas? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/993187
[14:55] <SharkMuttleworth> soman: In that case, I recommend gnote
[14:55] <lotuspsychje> marianna:you have an ati card?
[14:56] <marianna> lotuspsychje: I have both ati and nvidia, currently using nvidia geforce 210. Could switch back, but both freeze.
[14:56] <soman> SharkMuttleworth: will try now
[14:56] <lb> SharkMuttleworth, what's the difference between tomboy and gnote?
[14:56] <lotuspsychje> marianna:did you try unity2d?
[14:57] <marianna> lotuspsychje: No, but that solution caught my eye. do you think that would work?
[14:57] <archlich> SharkMuttleworth: yeah that makes a lot of sense, create a tmpfs earlier in the boot processes to not pollute /dev with .files
[14:57] <lotuspsychje> marianna:interesting to know if its compiz related, also nomodeset would be good idea for testing
[14:57] <SharkMuttleworth> lb: Tomboy came first, it's written in C#. Gnote is a Tomboy clone written in C++. It's faster and possibly less worrying as not encumbured by (possible) issues surrounding C#
[14:58] <lotuspsychje> !nomodeset | marianna
[14:58] <chamunks_> Do design plotters work with ubuntu? I've got to hook up a HP Design Jet 750C and set it up as a network printer.
[14:58] <lb> SharkMuttleworth, ah thanks, just found it by using google. i should have done this before asking bad questions. thanks
[14:58] <chamunks_> I'd like to avoid using windows as the print server if at all possible.
[14:58] <soman> SharkMuttleworth: thanks, gnote is what I need
[14:58] <archlich> chamunks_: yeah it depends on the maker, hp has pretty darn good support for plotters, i found drivers for the last hp plotter i used
[14:59] <marianna> lotuspsychje: I thought that was just for boot glitches. Mine boots fine.
[14:59] <lotuspsychje> archlich:does hpliptools also support plotters? or you need something else?
[15:00] <jemo> orange
[15:00] <lotuspsychje> marianna:i had issues with xorg and ati myself, ang got troubles away on nomodeset,but at the end an updated fixed it all
[15:01] <ovnicraft> hello i want to know how to run swat https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Swat in docs tell me about xinet.d services but in 12.04 server edition does not existe
[15:01] <deadmund> I have a HDD that isn't remapping 36 sectors (that need to be remapped) for some reason.  Windows won't boot on this machine.  The ubuntu live CD boots fine (and the drive can be mounted and data pulled off it).  Are there any ubuntu programs I can run that can repair the hdd?
[15:01] <ovnicraft> any hints ?
[15:01] <lotuspsychje> deadmund:recocery software?
[15:02] <lotuspsychje> recovery
[15:02] <deadmund> lotuspsychje: Is that the name of a program?
[15:02] <Pici> !recovery
[15:02] <lotuspsychje> deadmund:i mean you want to recover data or actually repair sectors
[15:03] <deadmund> lotuspsychje: Pici data has not been lost.  I was able to make a backup from the "failing" drive.  Now I want to fix the 36 sectors that need to be remapped problem. I learned about these sectors from "disk utility"
[15:05] <archlich> lotuspsychje: i dont remember how i got it working, i think i had to download the driver for windows and use the PPD file
[15:05] <lotuspsychje> deadmund: man fsck
[15:05] <deadmund> lotuspsychje: I'll take a look at it.  Thanks! :)
[15:05] <deadmund> oh :P
[15:05] <dr_willis> but its a ntfs filesystem?
[15:05] <deadmund> yeah
[15:05] <deadmund> ntfs
[15:06] <deadmund> And the laptop won't boot the installed OS, windows xp, which is why it was brought to me in the first place)
[15:06] <dr_willis> and you have no restore or rescue xp disks?
[15:07] <_cronus_> deadmund, install gddrescue then info ddrescue > Fill Mode
[15:07] <marianna> lotuspsychje: does changing to nomodeset/quite splash have any effect on things after it's booted? This happens while I'm using the booted computer.
[15:07] <_cronus_> deadmund, i think this is what you are trying to do...
[15:07] <deadmund> dr_willis: The laptop has a recovery partition, haven't tried to use it.  I don't have a windows xp disk of any kind.
[15:08] <deadmund> _cronus_: I'll take a look at that.  Will it repair NTFS?
[15:08] <lotuspsychje> marianna:yes it would be interesting to know what your system does without compiz..just to test
[15:08] <_cronus_> deadmund, nope
[15:08] <deadmund> _cronus_: Well then it is not useful.
[15:08] <jorgp> will 12.10 work with ssd drive? I currently have windows 7 on a new dell laptop that has a 128GB SSD drive and I am thinking about putting ubuntu on it
[15:08] <_cronus_> deadmund, just force relocation of the sectors
[15:08] <Anvar> jorgp, yup without a proble
[15:08] <Anvar> m
[15:08] <dr_willis> jorgp:  works fine here on my ssd
[15:08] <deadmund> _cronus_: That's what I want to do.  I don't know how to do it.
[15:09] <lotuspsychje> jorgp:good choice
[15:09] <jorgp> great news
[15:09] <Anvar> jorgp, little adivce, google on ubuntu ssd tweaks. there a few nice tweaks
[15:09] <dr_willis> deadmund:  thay may not fix the os however
[15:09] <marianna> lotuspsychje: ok thanks, I'll try that.
[15:09] <jorgp> ok, thanks for the info Anvar
[15:09] <_cronus_> deadmund, it uses a 2 stage procedure. first it finds the bad blocks and then it writes zero to it (thus forcing firmware to relocate)
[15:10] <deadmund> dr_willis: Can you elaborate?  I don't fully understand why x number of sectors waiting to be remapped causes the OS not to boot in the first place.
[15:10] <_cronus_> deadmund, but it knows nothing about ntfs
[15:10] <lotuspsychje> jorgp:what ssd brand did you buy?
[15:10] <dr_willis> deadmund:  the data inn those sectors may be lost. and it may have been data xp needed to boot..
[15:10] <deadmund> _cronus_: ddrescue does this?  If it doesn't work with ntfs then it won't solve my problem right?  The 36 sectors are on an ntfs partition.
[15:10] <nishttal2> how do i make a running process nohup so it continues to run when i close the terminal
[15:11] <lotuspsychje> hmm doesnt testdisk repair sectors too?
[15:11] <jorgp> not sure, it came installed in the dell laptop
[15:11] <dr_willis> deadmund:  so those comands may get the hd working. but may not fix a bad ntfs filestystem
[15:11] <deadmund> dr_willis: I see.  That seems likely.  Since I was able to get the vast majority of the data off the drive.
[15:12] <deadmund> dr_willis: I guess, strictly speaking, the harddrive is working.  The OS cannot boot because some OS related data was lost.  Thus, the sectors are not remapped because the OS cannot boot to remap them.
[15:12] <lotuspsychje> !info testdisk | deadmund
[15:12] <dr_willis> i thought the hd's  amart stuff did the remaping. not the os
[15:13] <deadmund> dr_willis: Mmm, IDK.  So maybe the problem is two fold.
[15:13] <dr_willis> the rescue stuff above forces the hd to do its thing
[15:13] <deadmund> I think I'll ask about this in #hardware.  I got a nice list of tools I can try using on it.  Also, there is the recovery partition.
[15:13] <iron1968> ciao a tutti
[15:13] <lotuspsychje> !it | iron1968
[15:13] <_cronus_> deadmund, i'm not sure that i would trust a disk with so many sectors bad to be honest
[15:14] <dr_willis> i would use ddrescue to image that rescuuue partition somewhere.. or image the whole hd to a new hd. just in case
[15:14] <deadmund> _cronus_: You should see the number of already remapped sectors! (hint: it is not small)
[15:14] <deadmund> dr_willis: thanks for the tip
[15:14] <dr_willis> i take flakey hds like that. load them with cartoons and lets the kids have them for their 'media' drives ;) for the roku
[15:15] <_cronus_> deadmund, i support dr_willis opinion, copy everything to a new disk
[15:15] <deadmund> thanks guys!
[15:16] <deadmund> I don't have an ubuntu / linux computer with me right now.  What is the keyword / feature of ddrescue that will force remap the bad sectors?
[15:16] <Remi> salut salut
[15:16] <lotuspsychje> !fr | Remi
[15:17] <angs> how can I see chipset of my wifi adapter?
[15:17] <angs> it is a usb dongle
[15:17] <wtp> helloyo yo
[15:17] <deadmund> angs: lsusb I believe
[15:17] <wtp> what's up here
[15:18] <angs> deadmund: thanks
[15:18] <_cronus_> deadmund, it is not a keyword i am afraid, it's a procedure. use the command info ddrescue and check under fill mode
[15:18] <lotuspsychje> wtp: you have joined ubuntu support channel, welcome
[15:18] <deadmund> dr_willis: lotuspsychje _cronus_ Thanks for all the help!
[15:18] <deadmund> _cronus_: will do!
[15:19] <lotuspsychje> !yay | deadmund
[15:19] <deadmund> Ha, I guess I have "made it"
[15:20] <chamunks> test?
[15:21] <lotuspsychje> !test | chamunks
[15:22] <chamunks> !test
[15:22] <chamunks> awesome
[15:22] <chamunks> there was a problem with my voice apparently due to webchat
[15:22] <lotuspsychje> whats a good lightweight pps viewer for xubuntu?
[15:23] <chamunks> back to my issue I need to hook about 3 plotters and 4 printers up to a ubuntu instance and have them shared to windows boxes running autocad.
[15:23] <gordonjcp> chamunks: sounds like you need to learn about CUPS and samba
[15:23] <SharkMuttleworth> lotuspsychje: Libre office is probably the best, but not lightweight
[15:23] <chamunks> gordonjcp: I dont know much about cups and I know samba.conf is a pain.
[15:23] <dupondje> Any ideas on how to debug shutdown freeze,
[15:24] <dupondje> ?
[15:24] <softcoder> anyone know in 12.10 how i can isntall a keyboard for Gaelic Scotish?
[15:24] <SharkMuttleworth> lotuspsychje: Well, it depends what you mean by lightweight. It doesn't use a huge amount of RAM to run, but the software install size is large
[15:24] <softcoder> I need to test entry of special characters from that language in an sdl application (this works for Germna)
[15:24] <Anvar> chamunks, install webmin. Setting up samba is a whole lot easier then
[15:24] <lotuspsychje> SharkMuttleworth:i only got 512 on this xubuntu laptop, any way to rip the pps viewer only from libreoffice?
[15:24] <dr_willis> !webmin
[15:25] <softcoder> I cannot find Gaelic in the selection list of keybaord layout
[15:25] <chamunks> Anvar: i thought (what dr_willis said)
[15:25] <SharkMuttleworth> lotuspsychje: That should be enough to run libreoffice
[15:25] <dr_willis> sambas not too hard to get going
[15:26] <Anvar> ubottu, not support perhaps, but runs here perfectly on all 18 ubuntu 12 servers
[15:26] <lotuspsychje> SharkMuttleworth:ok ill install
[15:26] <Anvar> :)
[15:26] <dr_willis> and cups works with it'
[15:26] <eucalyptus> ubuntu which version have network install os as kickstart
[15:26] <SharkMuttleworth> lotuspsychje: Libre office says it'll run on 256MB, but 512MB recommended
[15:27] <lotuspsychje> cool
[15:27] <lotuspsychje> tnx
[15:27] <chamunks> dr_willis: well i've got a HP DesignJet 750C and 500
[15:27] <softcoder> anyone.. Gaelic.. how to get this in keyboard layout?
[15:27] <dr_willis> chamunks: if cups supports them it should work
[15:28] <chamunks> dr_willis: Then I have HP officejet pro k8600 and a few others.
[15:28] <chamunks> dr_willis: how do i find out of they do?
[15:28] <Azzle-Dazzle> Does anyone here use 'Audacious' ?? If so, Is there a way to get preset EQ's ? Im no good with the mixer and im fcuking things up lol
[15:28] <SharkMuttleworth> softcoder: have you tried the GB - extended layout?
[15:28] <dr_willis> cups.org perhaps
[15:28] <Guest6129> my laptop seems to be overheating more since upgrading to 12.10; has anyone else found this?
[15:29] <chamunks> dr_willis: fair thanks for the spoonfed link :)
[15:29] <softcoder> how to i install that SharkMuttleworth ?
[15:29] <SharkMuttleworth> You don't need to install it, you should just be able to select it from your preferences somewhere
[15:29] <SharkMuttleworth> SharkMuttleworth: It'll be in keyboard or country or something, not on ubuntu atm
[15:30] <softcoder> i cannot find it
[15:30] <softcoder> i'm in choose layout
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> still filling the channel out huh
[15:33] <lotuspsychje> lol
[15:33]  * lotuspsychje runs away fast
[15:34] <ButtDog> How does Lubutu compart to Ubuntu resource wise?
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> ButtDog: lots less
[15:35] <softcoder> think i found it
[15:35] <softcoder> clogaelach
[15:35] <cfhowlett> ButtDog: much lighter system demands.
[15:35] <ButtDog> Lubuntu uses a lot less?
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> ButtDog: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1302800/
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> ButtDog: 237Mb used RAM. 2.7Gb used for apps (I have al the addons and media codecs etc)
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> ButtDog: it;s why I set 4.2Gb for / :)
[15:37] <ButtDog> ActionParsnip and you're running Lubuntu?
[15:37] <Guest6129> my laptop seems to be overheating more often since upgradingto 12.10; any thoughts on what might be the cause?
[15:38] <lotuspsychje> Guest6129:ive seen few users complain on same issue already, not sure what fixes it
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> ButtDog: yes, Lubuntu 12.10. I also removed abiword and gnumeric and install libreoffice
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> ButtDog: I also have xcompmgr installled so I can run docky :)
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> ButtDog: openbox doesn't do compositing so it needs a helping hand
[15:39] <Guest6129> lotuspsychje: ok, thanks. guess ill look into downgrading for now
[15:40] <lotuspsychje> Guest6129:maybe search for similar bugs on 12.10...
[15:40] <ButtDog> ActionParnsip, I've got a bunch of old boxes i'm looking to run some python stuff, it's super light weight was wondering if I should go with lubuntu or ubuntu server
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> ButtDog: could install ubuntu minimal then install openbox and slim to get a lightweight OS
[15:42] <lotuspsychje> ActionParsnip:would openbox be smart on xubuntu?
[15:42] <zniavre> good afternoon
[15:43] <zniavre> what is the new command line to reset unity please ?
[15:43] <subz3r0> does any1 know how i can transfer data from a pc to a playstation 3 (without the ps3 media server) i dont like it to install software which in need just temp...
[15:44] <blazemore> subz3r0: It probably depends what you're trying to achieve
[15:45] <gustav__> Hey. You Ubuntu people. Fix better support for Blackbox.
[15:45] <subz3r0> just want to use a crossover cable (rj45) and transfer data from the pc to the ps3
[15:45] <gustav__> Wireless data connection manipulation, for instance, in Blackbox.
[15:45] <BrianBlaze> lol  Ithought you wrote blackberry and I was like whaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?! lol
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> lotuspsychje: why install xubuntu in the first place?
[15:45] <subz3r0> using a stick is also not an option, coze the ps3 only accepts fat as filesystem... and fat has its restrictions
[15:46] <lotuspsychje> ActionParsnip:just installed xubuntu on older laptop, runs smoother the lubuntu for me
[15:46] <BrianBlaze> u are transfering files bigger the n4GB sub?
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> lotuspsychje: that can happen.I've seen it vary between systems some
[15:47] <subz3r0> indeed
[15:47] <lotuspsychje> ActionParsnip:so i wondered would openbox be even faster on it
[15:47] <natman> I have kubuntu 12.10, was told to come here for some help since they could not solve my problem, can i ask away?
[15:47] <zniavre>  setsid unity   thank yuo #ubuntu
[15:47] <BrianBlaze> but for what u want to work sunz3r0 is by making a media server
[15:47] <blazemore> lotuspsychje: I just installed OpenBox on Debian
[15:47] <blazemore> lotuspsychje: Offtopic, but if you're looking for a lightweight debian-based distro for an older topic, come into #crunchbang and ask them about that
[15:47] <subz3r0> like i said, i dont want to install any serversoftware which i just need temporaly
[15:47] <BrianBlaze> on ubuntu then u can connect it to the ps3 and it shall see whatever u want it to see
[15:47] <cfhowlett> !ask|natman:
[15:48] <subz3r0> its not for me... a friend asked me... and he has no internet. so i need how to figure that out without the ps3 media server
[15:48] <BrianBlaze> pms (playstation media server) is pretty easy to install and is not really a server unless you have it running all the time... it doesn't run automatically unless you make it of course
[15:48] <subz3r0> well i could download it and give it to him on a usbstick....
[15:48] <BrianBlaze> ya man
[15:48] <BrianBlaze> it's really good
[15:49] <BrianBlaze> I have made all my friends switch to linux and the ones that need media servers use that
[15:49] <natman> running kubuntu 12.10 unable to shutdown laptop ( just stalls on shutdown screen ), if i run shutdown via terminal i see this http://i45.tinypic.com/34j52ra.jpg All i know is if i disable the wireless it seems to fic the problem ( #kubuntu told me to ask here )
[15:49] <subz3r0> well... ok in other words. what does the ps3 media server?
[15:49] <subz3r0> whch protocol? filesystem? etc..
[15:49] <subz3r0> guess it should be possible somehow without it
[15:50] <BrianBlaze> http://www.ps3mediaserver.org/
[15:50] <subz3r0> mhh, u dont understand me, do you?
[15:50] <subz3r0> i dont want to use this one
[15:50] <subz3r0> and there you cant find information what protocols etc.. are used for it
[15:51] <BrianBlaze> I understand you don't feel like getting info for yourself lol
[15:51] <BrianBlaze> I believe if I remember correctly its port 5001
[15:51] <subz3r0> no, u just do not answer my question or are not able to
[15:52] <subz3r0> either doesnt matter... i just wanted to know if there is another way. BESIDES the mediaserver
[15:52] <subz3r0> thats it...
[15:52] <BrianBlaze> no other way
[15:52] <BrianBlaze> I wish there were more options
[15:52] <BrianBlaze> I had so much trouble install pms on one friends computer it turned out the only way it worked was by downloading an earlier version lol
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> lotuspsychje: well openbox doesn't need a DE, so should be lighter
[15:57] <lotuspsychje> ActionParsnip:ok another question: cant get adobe flash to work on xubuntu, i activated partners source, installed xubuntu-restricted-extras and synaptic shows latest flashplugin-installer marked...but still youtube shows nothing
[15:58] <cdzr> use chrome instead
[15:58] <subz3r0> BrianBlaze, that s.... :/ he bought some camcorder with 720p but has no pc... also connection camcorder <-> ps3 doesnt work. (im pretty sure its the filesystem of the camcorder)
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> lotuspsychje: what is the output of:  uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'     please use a pastebin
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> cdzr: chrome flash is pretty sweet
[15:59] <lotuspsychje> cdzr:chrome shows nothing either: showing shockwave plugin missing
[15:59] <Mrokii> Hello. I was trying to set up a cgroup as described here: http://jlebar.com/2011/6/15/Limiting_the_amount_of_RAM_a_program_can_use.html but as soon as I use either "restart cgconfig" or "start cgconfig" I get the error message "restart: Unknown job: cgconfig". What can I do about that?
[16:00] <cdzr> lotuspsychje: does youtube work? if it does there the website is broken not flash
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> subz3r0: can ps3 access samba shares?
[16:00] <subz3r0> i dont know. i guess not
[16:00] <subz3r0> coze smb would be no problem and very welcome :)
[16:01] <subz3r0> even ftp would be fine
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> subz3r0: I'd check, you could then just setup a samba share and stream that way
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> subz3r0: you'd need to check what the OS can do
[16:01] <maj> ActionParsnip: Linux maj-Aspire-1350 3.2.0-29-generic #46-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jul 27 17:04:05 UTC 2012 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux
[16:01] <maj> ii  flashplugin-installer                  11.2.202.243ubuntu0.12.04.1             Adobe Flash Player plugin installer
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> maj: are you lotuspsychje?
[16:02] <lotuspsychje> thats the xubuntu box
[16:02] <lotuspsychje> yes
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> lotuspsychje: just checking :)
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> lotuspsychje: uninstall  flashplugin-installer then enable the partner repo and install adobe-flashplugin package
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> lotuspsychje: or just remove it and use chrome, it has inbuilt flash (chromium does not have it)
[16:03] <lotuspsychje> ActionParsnip:ok lemme try that
[16:03] <BrianBlaze> sub there is no way the ps3 will see anything unless it is fat32... or a media server lol
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> !rootirc | SouravAJ
[16:07] <SouravAJ> hi i am using backtrak 5 i make  a user but whenever i wanted to startx with local user it take long time
[16:07] <genii-around> !backtrack
[16:08] <BrianBlaze> @SouravAJ I set up my backtrack to automatically start up with a user logging in to startx so when I boot up it goes right to a GUI with a user
[16:08] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[16:08] <syre> hey guys what file should i put startup commands in?
[16:09] <BrianBlaze> the only useless part of that is most tools need to be run as root anyways
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> SouravAJ: backtrack has it's own channel. You should ask there, not here
[16:10] <Help1> Hello
[16:10] <syre> i tried putting the startup command in .xprofile but it didnt owkr
[16:10] <syre> work*
[16:11] <lotuspsychje> ActionParsnip:says the adobe-flashplugin has no release candidate
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> syre: do you have a desktop OS or is it Ubuntu server
[16:11] <syre> 12.04 desktop
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> syre: there is a startup app manager in dash
[16:11] <BrianBlaze> .bashrc is where I put my start-up shtuff
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> syre: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1302912/
[16:12] <Help1> 12.04 LTS
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> lotuspsychje: ^
[16:12] <syre> BrianBlaze: but im putting the command "xset m 0 0" wouldnt X have to be started first?
[16:12] <Help1> I need to install my printer & scanner driver
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> syre: or copy the .desktop files in /usr/share/applications to ~/.config/autostart
[16:12] <lotuspsychje> ActionParsnip:do i have to enable both 'partners' sources
[16:12] <Help1> SCX-4521F
[16:12] <Help1> Can anyone help ?
[16:13] <syre> ActionParsnip: it's a scrip i want to be run at startup, not found in /usr/share/applications
[16:13] <syre> script*
[16:14] <syre> ActionParsnip: does scripts work in .config/autostart aswell?
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> syre: then in the startup items, make a new entry to run the command, a desktop file will be made
[16:14] <Mrokii> Does anybody know if I can change the background on active Gnu screens when in split mode? I mean, when I show two Gnu screens in one window. Or is there any other way I can make the currently active Gnu Screen stand out?
[16:14] <natman> running kubuntu 12.10 unable to shutdown laptop ( just stalls on shutdown screen ), if i run shutdown via terminal i see this http://i45.tinypic.com/34j52ra.jpg All i know is if i disable the wireless it seems to fic the problem ( #kubuntu told me to ask here )
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> Help1: seems to use splix
[16:14] <ClitorisErrante> hello guys. i am looking for a way to use rainbow tables in android
[16:14] <lotuspsychje> lol
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> natman: are there any bugs reported?
[16:15] <syre> ActionParsnip: ok thanks
[16:15] <natman> ActionParsnip:  not that i know of
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> Help1: it uses the Samsung SCX-4500 Series driver. Source: http://forum.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=202&t=57503
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> Help1: scanner will need the samsungmfp-scanner package
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> !info samsungmfp-scanner 
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> Help1: well, you'll need it from somewhere
[16:16] <Help1> Okay, thanks anyway  ActionParsnip
[16:17] <BrianBlaze> am I the only one who found it odd that on the ubuntu server live cd you don't have a proper terminal to play with until you actually install it? I was suprised that if I wanted a fully functional CLI off a live cd I needed the desktop edition
[16:18] <ikonia> BrianBlaze: the sever Cd
[16:18] <ikonia> BrianBlaze: the server Cd isn't a live Cd
[16:18] <BrianBlaze> then I guess that makes sense lol
[16:18] <BrianBlaze> but they still have a small terminal type thing but hardly any commands work
[16:18] <ageis> omg 10.04 to 12.04 totally borked my network. ifup eth1 RTNETLINK answers: File exists...im a certified sysadmin yet i cannot figure this shit out
[16:22] <katre> wops
[16:23] <katre> hi
[16:23] <katre> hellllo
[16:24] <nabblet1> hi, my system froze - what can i do
[16:24] <katre> i dont know what you can do
[16:24] <gustav__> nabblet1: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key
[16:26] <donofrio> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1302622/ - package pulled?  no replacement systems almost unusable...
[16:28] <nabblet1> gustav__, doesn't help\
[16:28] <urdac> how do i reset x to its defaults? I tried to set 12.10 64b to amd's drivers, but now the panel doesn't start
[16:28] <nabblet1> gustav__, doesn't help :(
[16:28] <gustav__> nabblet1: Did you try b?
[16:28] <urdac> i just a screen with my backdrop and no menus/panel
[16:28] <nabblet1> gustav__, yes
[16:28] <gustav__> nabblet1: Are you using an nVIDIA GPU? Or Intel?
[16:29] <gustav__> nabblet1: Optimus?
[16:29] <nabblet1> gustav__, intel
[16:29] <gustav__> nabblet1: What kernel? uname -a
[16:29] <nabblet1> gustav__, 3.2.0-31
[16:29] <nabblet1> gustav__, generic pae
[16:30] <nabblet1> gustav__, generic-pae what does that mean?
[16:30] <gustav__> nabblet1: Try 3.5.
[16:30] <nabblet1> gustav__, ok, just found out about pae
[16:31] <a5m0> hi guys, 12.10 question, previously I have been following this full-disk-encryption guide http://blog.markloiseau.com/2012/05/ubuntu-aes-xts-plain64/ that sets up aes-xts-plain64 and a randomly encrypted swap, does the newly included FDE in the installer make this unnecessary or does the installer use something inferior to aes-xts?
[16:31] <nabblet1> gustav__, ok, thank you for your help
[16:32] <Guest64351> Has anyone set up a load balnceR? I need some help
[16:33] <Guest64351> join #iptables
[16:34] <nabblet1> !loadbalancer
[16:34] <donofrio> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1302622/ - package pulled?  no replacement systems almost unusable...yes its a 12.10 install but someone's gotta know how to resolve this
[16:35] <OerHeks> donofrio, what linux version are you on?
[16:36] <donofrio> ubuntu 12.10 AMD64
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> nabblet1: it means you 32bit kernel can access up to 64Gb RAM
[16:36] <gordonjcp> chamunks: yup
[16:37] <nabblet1> ActionParsnip, thank you - i just have 2 GB of ram though - any advantage from diableing it?
[16:37] <donofrio> OerHeks, I'm using ubuntu 12.10 on amd64 platform and I did a apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade -y
[16:37] <nabblet1> ActionParsnip, *disabling
[16:37] <OerHeks> donofrio, oke, that would be my 2nd question, you did update.
[16:38] <donofrio> OerHeks, now I cannot find the unity package (seems to have be removed from my machine and the repository)
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> donofrio: can you pastebin the output of:  apt-cache policy compiz-core-abiversion-20120920 unity unity-lens-music; lsb_release -a; uname -a; head /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:39] <donofrio> ActionParsnip, - sure thing - http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1302988/
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> donofrio: wget -O compiz-core.deb; http://launchpadlibrarian.net/116719342/compiz-core_0.9.8.2%2Bbzr3377-0ubuntu1_i386.deb; sudo dpkg -i ./compiz-core.deb; sudo apt-get -f install
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> donofrio: source https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/quantal/i386/compiz-core/1:0.9.8.2+bzr3377-0ubuntu1
[16:41] <donofrio> ActionParsnip, - I'm amd64 not i386
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> donofrio: ok let me check
[16:42] <donofrio> ActionParsnip, you rock thank you for helping me.....doi
[16:42] <a5m0> anyone know what version of aes the new 12.10 installer uses by default for FDE?
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> donofrio: wget -O compiz-core.deb http://launchpadlibrarian.net/116719278/compiz-core_0.9.8.2%2Bbzr3377-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb; sudo dpkg -i ./compiz-core.deb; sudo apt-get -f install
[16:42] <orpok> how can i start x in safe mode? ubuntu 12.10
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> donofrio: should help
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> orpok: I think if you run: startx    it should start
[16:43] <orpok> all it shows is my desktop background with no panel or menus
[16:43] <orpok> it didn't like amd prop drivers
[16:43] <Bombo> hm i installed 12.10 with Universal USB Installer onto my usbstick, it booted, but when i tried to install nvidia-current it complains about 'no disk space available' (but there is on / like 2gb) when it tries to run update-initramfs, how to fix that?
[16:43] <orpok> just want to set it back to default drivers, it worked then
[16:44] <apple314> Hello all. I need help, or to be pointed into the right direction... I need to setup linux, prefrebly desktop computer for hotel guests... I'm asked to make desktop icons (firefox, libreoffice...) undeletable since some users make problems. Please advise.
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> orpok: did you uninstall the proprietary driver?
[16:44] <gordonjcp> apple314: look into "kiosk mode"
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> apple314: make them read and execute only to the user
[16:45] <donofrio> ActionParsnip, = root@donofrio-OptiPlex-745:~# unity -help
[16:45] <donofrio> No command 'unity' found, did you mean:
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> donofrio: why are you running unity as root?
[16:45] <donofrio> ActionParsnip, dunno I'll try as me...
[16:45] <donofrio> donofrio@donofrio-OptiPlex-745:/usr/bin$ unity-
[16:45] <donofrio> unity-greeter               unity-webapps-desktop-file  unity-webapps-runner
[16:46] <donofrio> but no unity itself )-: granted this is without a reboot fwiw
[16:46] <lmat> How do I run something in ubuntu (unity? (== lightdm?))
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> donofrio: are the packages all square now?
[16:46] <lmat> I got eclipse and would like to run it.
[16:46] <lmat> The only way I know how is to run the terminal and type "eclipse"
[16:46] <lmat> It doesn't feel right though.
[16:46] <apple314> ActionParsnip:I tried giving them only chmod 5, but desktop link can still be deleted. gordonjcp: kiosk mode? Never heard, seems some googling is in order thank you.
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> apple314: chmod 500 ~/Desktop/filename
[16:47] <lmat> Oh, and of course bg
[16:47] <lduros> I recently installed Ubuntu for some people who are not computer-savvy, and they told me that they tried to use picasa and it doesn't work
[16:47] <lmat> Oh, is "super" then "eclipse{enter}" the right way?
[16:47] <donofrio> ActionParsnip, = nope )-: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1303003/
[16:47] <apple314> ActionParsnip: Tried, but icon can still be deleted.
[16:47] <lduros> anyone knows about the web picasa interface and Ubuntu?
[16:47] <lduros> are there issues with it?
[16:48] <nikhil_> hi all
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> donofrio: did the deb I gave install ok?
[16:48] <nikhil_> has anyone installed ubuntu on a sony vaio Z ?
[16:48] <nikhil_> or some such
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> nikhil_: ask your real question please
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> apple314: try making it immutable then
[16:49] <donofrio> ActionParsnip, yes the wget installed/upgradedf just fine...
[16:50] <nikhil_> ActionParsnip, I am looking to install ubuntu on my vaio Z, but the link for the janitor script (https://launchpad.net/~sony-vaio-z-series) seems broken, and there is a complication with the RAID HDD's, so I was hoping someone with some experience could point me in the right direction
[16:50] <donofrio> ActionParsnip, results of last wget suggestion = http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1303012/
[16:50] <apple314> ActionParsnip: you mean chmod -i 500? Tried, doesn't work...
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> donofrio: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/118028029/unity_6.6.0-0ubuntu3_amd64.deb    install that
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> apple314: is that how you make things immutable?
[16:51] <donofrio> ActionParsnip, k I'll try it
[16:52] <apple314> ActionParsnip: chattr +i, sorry my bad. I'll try. Thank you for your time.
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> apple314: if you try to guess commands you may damage the file
[16:53] <apple314> ActionParsnip: testing in virtualbox...
[16:54] <BrianBlaze> virtualbox -> file -> virtual media manager -> right click the machine u wanna make immutable
[16:55] <BrixSat> hello, im having an issue, if i activate transparency in terminal i only get to see the desktop image :/ not the windows that are on background..... why?
[16:55] <BrianBlaze> then click modify :)
[16:55] <BrianBlaze> apple I hope that helps
[16:55] <donofrio> ActionParsnip, sadness = http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1303032/
[16:57] <donofrio> ActionParsnip, any thoughts?
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> donofrio: I  suggest you remove all unity packages, then reinstall them
[16:58] <fzlamn> Hi.. I cannot add ppa via terminal and get this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/1303008/
[16:58] <donofrio> ActionParsnip, got a handy one line cmd for that (-;
[16:59] <donofrio> ActionParsnip, do you know a handy one line command to do that
[17:01] <lysek> hello
[17:01] <ninwa> Hi folks. I have a chinese SNES USB knockoff and I've identified it as a Dragonrise Gamepad, lusb gives me devID 11. I'm trying to get it working, and in looking for some help online I found that someone has written a patch to support this very specific gamepad: https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/494561/
[17:01] <ninwa> My question is, where do I go from here? How do I know if this patch is included in a more recent kernel? (I have 3.2)
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> donofrio: sudo apt-get --purge remove `dpkg -l | awk {'print $2'} | grep unity`; sudo apt-get --purge autoremove; sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get install unity
[17:01] <ninwa> Or, how can I apply it?
[17:02] <javierf_> Hi! I've been using geeqie to see my pictures since long time, but since I upgraded to 12.10, it's broken. If I start it, geeqie opens for half a second and closes automatically. No change to enter "preferences" and see if something is wrong. Have been googling it, but didn't find a thing about the issue. Anyone has an idea what can be happening=
[17:02] <lysek> i just have installed ubuntu on my lenovo g580 and when i restarted it says "noo boot device please insert boot device and press any key", how do i fix it now i only have usb stick with ubuntu x64 ?
[17:02] <Bombo> i installed 12.10 with Universal USB Installer onto my usbstick, it booted, but when i tried to install nvidia-current it complains about 'no disk space available' (but there is on / like 2gb) when it tries to run update-initramfs, how to fix that?
[17:03] <ahzi> hello i have an eeepc 901 running 10.10 on a 4gb + 8gb ssd. stock item. i'm trying to swap out the stock ssd for a runcore 64gb sata. any tips?
[17:03] <Bombo> why is update-initramfs needed when i just want new nvidia-current drivres?
[17:03] <donofrio> ActionParsnip, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1303056/
[17:03] <donofrio> )-:
[17:03] <s9iper1> how to add empathy in the startup programm applications list ??
[17:04] <donofrio> ActionParsnip, PM me if you would....
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> donofrio: looks like your packages are in a real mess. Try: wget https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/fixpackage; chmod +x ./fixpackage; sudo ./fixpackage
[17:07] <lysek> so how do i fix the boot loader with just usb stick ubuntu x64 install disk
[17:07] <lysek> because maybe it forget to install it
[17:07] <lysek> or smth
[17:07] <andygraybeal_> is it possible for two people to use one monitor with two seperate mouse cursors and two seperate keyboards?  the display split in half the left side for user 1 and the right side for user 2?
[17:08] <nabblet1> andygraybeal, why do you want that?
[17:08] <andygraybeal_> maybe because i'm crazy.. but i was thinking that if i get a big monitor, my wife and i could share it in the living room
[17:09] <andygraybeal_> she could have her half and me mine.
[17:09] <nabblet1> andygraybeal, hm... i thing it would work with two monitors and one computer
[17:09] <nabblet1> andygraybeal, but for a split monitor i think you will have to mess with X
[17:10] <ahzi> only one cursor, will have to share that. can do pic-in pic (side by side) option
[17:10] <nabblet1> andygraybeal, afaik X is in charge of displaying your stuff plus managing mouse and keyboard input
[17:10] <andygraybeal_> ahzi, interesting
[17:10] <andygraybeal_> nabblet1, oka ythank you
[17:11] <andygraybeal_> something to do with multiseat and two monitors then.
[17:11] <nabblet1> andygraybeal, wait
[17:12] <nabblet1> andygraybeal, Splitscreen multiseat ubuntu - YouTube www.youtube.com/watch?v=6o92RoCV8RU
[17:12] <nabblet1> andygraybeal, maybe that interests you
[17:12] <andygraybeal_> nabblet1, you are effin genious
[17:12] <andygraybeal_> i'm watching now
[17:13] <BlackNarcissus> Hello everyone. Anyone else using jabber.org as a jabber server is having a certificate error message upon login in empathy ?
[17:13] <andygraybeal_> splitscreen multiseat is geniuos
[17:13] <nabblet1> andygraybeal, hope it helps :)
[17:14] <andygraybeal_> this is totally cool
[17:14] <nabblet1> an other case of: "try that in windows" b*tch XD
[17:15] <andygraybeal_> nabblet1,  :))))
[17:15] <nabblet1> andygraybeal, it says it uses compzip-fusion
[17:16] <nabblet1> andygraybeal, not sure how it will work out with a newer ubuntu - also i am not sure if there are two keyboards used or only one
[17:16] <andygraybeal_> multiseat means more than one keyboard and mouse
[17:16] <andygraybeal_> but yea, i see what you mean
[17:16] <nabblet1> andygraybeal, so the magic word is multiseat :)
[17:17] <wols_> nabblet1: multiseat is doable with any linux. and yes, every "seat" has its own input devices
[17:17] <nabblet1> wols_, ok thank you  - didn't know that
[17:18] <nabblet1> andygraybeal, related video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5y1Ydls9lo
[17:18] <wols_> you will have to configure your X manually tho. no autoconfig with such a setup :)
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> nabblet1: userful is a distro made for multiseat :)
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> nabblet1: not free though
[17:19] <nabblet1> ActionParsnip, just wanted to say...\
[17:19] <nabblet1> wols_, kein schweiss, kein preis - sorry, don't know the engl. translation... means no effort, no price
[17:20] <nabblet1> andygraybeal, well... see you soon i guess... working on X is hell :D
[17:20] <andygraybeal_> nabblet1,  :))
[17:21] <andygraybeal_> thank you for you help
[17:21] <andygraybeal_> i will think about it - not a project i'm going to start today
[17:22] <nabblet1> andygraybeal, sure... uhm, maye a small hint form my side... maybe go with debian or an other distro, where it's community is used to mess around with X (no offense - ubuntu folks)
[17:22] <andygraybeal_> nabblet1, okay thank you for the advice :)
[17:22] <nabblet1> it's ->its
[17:23] <Alperen> hi. How can i enable suspend in my ubuntu? It wont resume when i suspend my pc.
[17:23] <nabblet1> andygraybeal, but maybe you're lucky and you can do it with compiz and without X-magic
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> Alperen: what make and model is the system?
[17:24] <nOStahl> what is channel for ubuntu future editions
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> nOStahl: #ubuntu+1   but it won't be there now
[17:24] <nOStahl> ty
[17:24] <Alperen> ActionParsnip, i have sony vaio vgnaw290j with nvidia 9600m gt ubuntu 12.04
[17:24] <nOStahl> ah
[17:25] <danielbauwens> Can someone help me? It's about my profile on ubuntu forums
[17:25] <andygraybeal_> holy crap, here's a way to do that on a polarized monitor .. no 'split-screen' needed.  one person is vert and the other person is horiz. polarized.
[17:25] <Alperen> ActionParsnip, i am using binary driver.
[17:26] <andygraybeal_> i wonder how that would effect eyesite in the long term
[17:26] <gordonjcp> andygraybeal_: have you seen those LCDs with prismatic lenses that they use for car dashboards?
[17:26] <nabblet1> andygraybeal, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultiseatX
[17:26] <danielbauwens> It says there you need at least 25 posts to be able to access your User Configuration page
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> Alperen: does it use dual GPUs (intel and nvidia)?
[17:26] <Alperen> ActionParsnip, no
[17:26] <danielbauwens> Well, i'm over 25 posts, but all I can do is go in my CP
[17:26] <gordonjcp> andygraybeal_: you halve the horizontal resolution, but it means that the driver and passenger can see different displays from the same LCD
[17:26] <Alperen> ActionParsnip, only nvidia
[17:27] <nabblet1> andygraybeal, you could also do it on green-red like in the old 3d-movies :D
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> Alperen: good, makes things good
[17:27] <andygraybeal_> gordonjcp, that is incredible
[17:27] <danielbauwens> Um, can anyone help me with that?
[17:28] <danielbauwens> okay then
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> Alperen: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[17:28] <Alperen> ğr
[17:28] <Alperen> ActionParsnip, precise
[17:30] <Bombo> anyone knows if update-initramfs works with ubuntu 12.10 live sys on a usbstick?
[17:30] <nabblet1> gordonjcp, hm... you could play games without this stupid splitscreen :)
[17:31] <gordonjcp> nabblet1: yes you could
[17:32] <c_smith> Hi, in 12.10 FGLRX boots me to the low-graphics mode in which I can't get past the second menu (input doesn't work in that menu, and only enter works on the first) and FGLRX worked on 12.04, is there something I can try to get fglrx working?
[17:32] <Myx0x3_> why do i get an blinking underline when i try booiting from my usb drive?
[17:32] <lysek> so anyone can help me i tired already, i chrooted into my installation which installed an hour ago, so i chrooted because my pc says there is no boot device
[17:32] <Porto> Hi, i have 12.04 when i doing the upgrade to 12.10 i have a problem and the pc turns off
[17:32] <Guest53328> Can someone recommend me a good music player with preset EQ's ? Ive tried Clementine and Rhythmbox - Dont like either
[17:32] <c_smith> Myx0x3_, that usually means it failed to boot
[17:32] <Porto> how can i upgrade ?
[17:32] <lysek> and now i dont know how to install grub again
[17:33] <Myx0x3_> c_smith: have the 12.10 any known issues with this problem?
[17:33] <dr_willis> Myx0x3_: try the nomodeset option
[17:33] <Alperen> Guest53328, you can try noise
[17:33] <dr_willis> !nomodeset
[17:33] <Porto> i write sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[17:33] <Porto> and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:33] <Myx0x3_> dr_willis: how do i enter that option? im not even able to get any grubmenu
[17:33] <Porto> and thats upgrading
[17:33] <Porto> it's ok?
[17:33] <Guest53328> Alperen - thanks ill look into it now
[17:34] <c_smith> Myx0x3_, several. most of which I don't know, but one is some proprietary drivers don't work with the kernel.
[17:34] <dr_willis> if no usb boot menu then sounds like the iso was bad
[17:34] <Myx0x3_> dr_willis: okay.. i downloaded it from the ubuntu.com site
[17:34] <Myx0x3_> im trying to download the 12.04 now
[17:34] <dr_willis> or put on the usbwrong
[17:34] <c_smith> Myx0x3_, but if you use an Intel GPU, those are working beautifully in 12.10
[17:34] <Myx0x3_> dr_willis: i did the dd if=ubuntu.iso of=/dev/disk1
[17:34] <dr_willis> !md5 | Myx0x3_
[17:35] <dr_willis> verified the iso?
[17:35] <aptosid> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2072957
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> Alperen: if you run:  sudo pm-suspend      is it ok?
[17:36] <aptosid> i cant update in the chrooted area because of a /etc/resolv.conf problem
[17:36] <Myx0x3_> dr_willis: no, where do i find the md5 of the iso?
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> Alperen: also try the boot option:   acpi_sleep=nonvs
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> Alperen: source: http://code.google.com/p/vaio-f11-linux/issues/detail?id=23
[17:37] <Myx0x3_> dr_willis: found it
[17:37] <Myx0x3_> yupp its valid
[17:37] <Alperen> ActionParsnip, yes. pc suspends and led indicates that it has suspended but when i push the button. It starts over from scratch
[17:37] <Myx0x3_> ill try the LTS version..
[17:37] <Alperen> ActionParsnip, i am trying it now
[17:38] <lysek> so i try to reinstall grub from livecd 'grub-install /dev/sda' and it says: source_dir doesn't exist. Please specify --target or --directory
[17:39] <Porto> Hello, when was the upgrade to 12.04 to 12.10 the power turned off, can I still upgrade using sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> lysek: run:   sudo fdisk -l     to see the device name
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> Porto: you will need:   sudo apt-get -f install
[17:39] <Porto> ho :(
[17:40] <Porto> i run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -f
[17:40] <Porto> :S
[17:40] <Porto> i gona mess ?
[17:40] <Porto> ::(
[17:40] <lysek> ActionParsnip: i am chrooted into my installation because after installing newest ubuntu i had "no available boot device" so i figured it forgot to install grub, and now fdisk -l shows /dev/sda
[17:41] <lowtax> hi, where is the configuration file with my network settings in it?
[17:41] <Porto> ok ActionParsnip
[17:41] <Porto> gona wait until end of dist-upgrade -f
[17:41] <BluesKaj> what's the new replacement key combo for stopping a session like ctrl+alt+backspace used to do ?
[17:42] <Mrokii> Why can't ise use two asterisks when looking for a file via ls? What I mean is, I can do somethiing like "ls .xmod*", but something like "ls *xmod*" doesn't seem to work.
[17:42] <Mrokii> *I use
[17:43] <ActionParsnip> Porto: did the power turn off due to battery by any chance?
[17:44] <Porto> no turns off because power fail iin my neighborhood
[17:44] <Porto> :;S
[17:44] <Porto> at moment i'm doing dist-upgrade -f
[17:45] <ActionParsnip> Mrokii: works here http://paste.ubuntu.com/1303154/
[17:45] <Porto> dono if that is correct but i don't stop that process
[17:45] <Alperen> ActionParsnip, thanks it worked.
[17:45] <Porto> until end
[17:45] <jilebedev> Hi hi: quick question about nfs mounts. Mounting reading/writing is all ok: I'd like to know what are the gotchas/consequences/best practices for mounting the root of a filesystem via nfs? I've ~10 ubuntu servers, and on each of them, I'd like to mount the 9 others' filesystems (at mount point root /): is this a poor idea? Will NFS disallow me to do this? I'm moving a lot of files around, and I'd like to make it seamless.
[17:45] <ActionParsnip> Alperen: nice, great what a bit of websearching drags up
[17:45] <lowtax> so i have  network card configured but i dont see its static ip settings in /etc/networks/interfaces
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> lowtax: how did you configure the devices?
[17:46] <lowtax> ActionParsnip: i didnt
[17:46] <chris__> Anyone have a suggestion on software to monitor uptime/process on a LAMP server?
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> lowtax: then it won't be static IP, the interfaces will use DHCP by default
[17:46] <lowtax> chris__: monit
[17:46] <Alperen> ActionParsnip, yes. I have searched the web tried some of them. But i couldn't do it. I didnt see this web page. Thanks
[17:47] <FLeiXiuS`> After creating a custom live iso, all I did was unsquash the fs and resquash it ... yet it hangs at starting cups on bootup.  Any ideas?
[17:47] <chris__> lowtax: thanks, will check it out
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> Alperen: bet you used google ;)
[17:47] <llutz> Mrokii:  shopt -s dotglob ; ls -l *xmo*
[17:47] <Alperen> ActionParsnip, :)
[17:48] <lowtax> ActionParsnip: eth0 has a non private address and there is no line in network/interfaces for eth0
[17:48] <ka_> hey
[17:48] <ka_> anyone?
[17:48] <mrsplendid> hola
[17:48] <Mrokii> ActionParsnip: I think it might have something to do with files starting with "." It seems that using two asteriks with "visible" files works, just not with files that start with "."
[17:48] <Mrokii> llutz: What does that do?
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> chris__: ssh -fCT user@server uptime
[17:49] <llutz> Mrokii: enables asterisks working on "." (dotfiles) too
[17:49] <mrsplendid> does anyone know how to configure adb usb device on xubuntu
[17:50] <Mrokii> llutz: Thanks. Is that permanent or do I need to change some config file for that?
[17:50] <chris__> ActionParsnip: Looking for something a little more full featured than that
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> chris__: why, what you are wanting is simple.....
[17:50] <llutz> Mrokii: you have to edit ~/.bashrc to make that permanent.
[17:50] <Myx0x3_> oh crap.. my computer with usb boot support dont want to boot from usb :(
[17:51] <Mrokii> llutz: Okay, thanks.
[17:51] <lowtax> chris__: what about monit
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> Myx0x3_: did you MD5 test the ISO you put on the USB?
[17:51] <Myx0x3_> ActionParsnip: yupp
[17:51] <wilee-nilee> Myx0x3_, You familiar with the out of the bios boot from option?
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> Myx0x3_: how did you put the ISO on the USB device?
[17:51] <chris__> lowtax: checking it out now. seems like a decent package
[17:52] <Myx0x3_> ActionParsnip: no i first tryd unetbootin, then DD (OS X), then 12.04 on unetboootin..
[17:52] <Myx0x3_> wilee-nilee: uhm, no?
[17:52] <wilee-nilee> Myx0x3_, This on a apple computer?
[17:53] <Myx0x3_> wilee-nilee: no, its an Asus UL30VT
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> Myx0x3_: are you installing on a Mac ?
[17:53] <Myx0x3_> ActionParsnip: ^^^
[17:53] <willdabeast> myx0x3_: you need to go to your bios on boot and set the usb drive to the top, I would remove the other options from the boot list as well.
[17:53] <Myx0x3_> ive got access to Windows, maybe try unetbootin in windows?
[17:53] <wilee-nilee> Myx0x3_, Besides the great help ActionParsnip will give you there is a boot from menu reached by a key or set of key prompts at powering on mine is f12 your may be different,
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> Myx0x3_: did you try the shortcut key to bring up the one-time boot option?
[17:54] <Myx0x3_> willdabeast: ive did that
[17:54] <Myx0x3_> yes
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> Myx0x3_: wilee-nilee is right, or try F11
[17:54] <Myx0x3_> its ESC
[17:54] <Myx0x3_> on this computer
[17:54] <Myx0x3_> ive tryd that
[17:54] <chris__> lowtax: Did you ever run into this bug with monit? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/monit/+bug/1017327
[17:54] <Myx0x3_> like 10 times
[17:54] <FloodBot1> Myx0x3_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> Myx0x3_: tried a different USB port>
[17:54] <lowtax> chris__: i dont use ubuntu
[17:54] <kracekumar> I tried to install ubuntu in macbook but it din work, I tried with/out refit. My liveusb is detected , when I click on the HD(refit detects usb asHD) to boot from, I get the error message as "Missing operating system". I used fat32, fat, mac journal as partition it din work, I made .img file using dd & unetbootin, my liveusb works in non mac system
[17:55] <lowtax> its not for me (tm)(r)
[17:55] <lowtax> to put it nicely
[17:55] <Myx0x3_> ActionParsnip: did that also :P
[17:55] <barcode> Hi I need to load libphp5.so and cant find it on my ubuntu system. I looked in /etc/apache2/mods-available, /etc/apache2/mods-enabled and there's no .so files at all. Can anyone help? I'm trying to get apache to recognize .7 file extension as php
[17:55] <Myx0x3_> ActionParsnip: i try unet on windows after the food.. my gf came with food now :D
[17:55] <dr_willis> !find libphp5.so
[17:56] <jrib> !php | barcode
[17:56] <barcode> okay
[17:56] <barcode> handy bot
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> Myx0x3_: try the 1 2 3 app from pendrivelinux, may help
[17:57] <dr_willis> i like the grub2 booting iso files tool at pendrivelinux ;-)
[17:58] <roop> hello
[17:58] <barcode> what a pain this is to try an get .7 files working.
[17:58] <roop> im rupesh from india(hyd)
[17:58] <barcode> its been about 3 hours now.
[17:58] <kracekumar> any one have installed ubuntu in macbook ?
[17:58] <Myx0x3_> kracekumar: me,  ut it was like 9.XX
[17:58] <ItsAllGoneWierd> When I type "sensors | grep temp1" I get two readings. Can I use awk or something to chose one of them?
[17:59] <Myx0x3_> but*
[17:59] <roop> helloooooooo
[17:59] <roop> any 1 here
[17:59] <kracekumar> Myx0x3_, yes don't ask why
[17:59] <ItsAllGoneWierd> hello, roop :)
[17:59] <dr_willis> ItsAllGoneWierd: you could. or use head. or tail..
[17:59] <lowtax> ItsAllGoneWierd: what does it look like in output
[17:59] <roop> diff between open-source and free software
[18:00] <llutz> ItsAllGoneWierd:  sensors | awk '/temp1/ {print $2}'
[18:00] <dr_willis> roop: source is there for you...
[18:00] <lowtax> roop: just because you can see the source code doesnt mean you can use it freely
[18:00] <roop> ohh thx
[18:00] <Pici> ItsAllGoneWierd: sensors | grep -m 1 temp1
[18:01] <roop> and i hav a webcam connected to my system(zebronic viper vga camera) skype didnt detecting it. wat to do..?
[18:01] <ItsAllGoneWierd> Oh, lots of answers! Like that :)
[18:02] <jrib> ItsAllGoneWierd: cut or sed too
[18:02] <Tr0xitY> Hi!
[18:02] <lowtax> ok so the networkc ard is configured in the stupid UI, and so it didnt put any entries in the config file?
[18:02] <ItsAllGoneWierd> Ok, thanks! Now I've got something to begin with! Tnx alot!
[18:02] <Tr0xitY> I think I did something stupid :P After il installed, then uninstalled openSSH, i cant reach my server with putty and sftp :s
[18:04] <lowtax> Tr0xitY: perhaps its because you REMOVED OPENSSH
[18:04] <Guest38160> hello  eveeryone
[18:04] <roop> help...
[18:04] <jrib> Tr0xitY: you uninstalled it while in ssh?
[18:04] <Tr0xitY> lowtax: but i installed openssh-server ,then uninstalled openssh-server
[18:04] <Tr0xitY> yes
[18:04] <Tr0xitY> and it was openssh server
[18:04] <lowtax> Tr0xitY: you uninstalled openssh-server
[18:04] <jrib> Tr0xitY: that session should still be open I think
[18:05] <Tr0xitY> now i cant connect, "Connection refused"
[18:05] <jrib> Tr0xitY: unless you exited, in which case you likely can't ssh in anymore
[18:05] <Guest38160> pls any one here to help a noob with virtaul box installation
[18:05] <jrib> Tr0xitY: use the session you still have open where you uninstalled it
[18:05] <Tr0xitY> but why, I did just install, then uninstall openssh-server :s
[18:05] <lowtax> Tr0xitY: so connect via some other method
[18:05] <Tr0xitY> jrib: was 1 day ago :P Its cclosed
[18:05] <Tr0xitY> lowtrax: how :-)
[18:05] <Guest38160> been ttrying to install an os os and all i get is vboxdrv missing
[18:05] <lowtax> Tr0xitY: get access to the machine and re-install openssh-server
[18:06] <jrib> Tr0xitY: well if the last thing you did was UNINSTALL ssh, you can't expect it to still be running
[18:06] <llutz> Tr0xitY: what did you expect to happen, when uninstalling openssh-server?
[18:06] <Tr0xitY> but I did not have openssh-server, so why do not sftp and ssh work when removing ssh server :P
[18:06] <llutz> troll
[18:07] <Tr0xitY> llutz: since it was "Open"-ssh server i thought it was just another version i installed and did not need :P
[18:07] <jrib> Tr0xitY: what do you want to accomplish now?  Your current state is that you cannot ssh.  So connect by some other means or gain physical access and install ssh.
[18:07] <Tr0xitY> sorry, as you can see im not the sharpest knife in linux ;)
[18:07] <lowtax> just the loudest
[18:07] <Tr0xitY> xD
[18:07] <ASHER1> somone in here know how install SMF in ubuntu?
[18:07] <Tr0xitY> jrib: tip how i can get access other ways?
[18:07] <gordonjcp> ASHER1: smf?
[18:08] <ASHER1> yes
[18:08] <jrib> Tr0xitY: there is no other way by default.  So if you haven't installed vnc for example, you can't
[18:08] <lowtax> keyboard and mouse works for me
[18:09] <ASHER1> gordonjcp?
[18:09] <ASHER1> you know how?
[18:09] <gordonjcp> ASHER1: I don't know what it is
[18:10] <ASHER1> smf this websit
[18:10] <Milos_SD> I have a little problem with xv and not enough video memory ... If I have too many applications open, or 2 tabs in firefox with flash, I can't get tvtime or mplayer (smplayer) to go fullscreen .... tvtime crashes with complains about not enough video memory to allocate, and smplayer just freez the video when I go fullscreen or enlarge the video screen... I had that problem in 12.04 beta, but then, it was fixed somehow... I upgraded to 12.1
[18:10] <Milos_SD> 0, and now I have this problem again ... if I disable compiz and unity, all works great ...  anyone has any idea what can be wrong here? I have old nvidia 7600gt card with 256MB vram
[18:13] <lysek> i think i figured it out i needed to run sgdisk --zap /dev/sda and make new partition table i hope i will be able to boot now after installation :)
[18:13] <yanwen_> I have no idea...
[18:13] <OerHeks> i need help with BCM4312, i look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx and i noticed the list with cardnumbers are gone
[18:13] <BluesKaj> Milos_SD, the 7600gt works with the nvidia-current driver
[18:14] <OerHeks> if i remember right, all i need for the 4312 is " sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter firmware-b43-installer " correct ?
[18:14] <Milos_SD> BluesKaj, yes it does... drivers are not the problem... it is a bug in compiz or in xserver.
[18:18] <leeping> Hi there, I just installed a package on my machine which runs 12.04 LTS.  The package was for 12.10, and I had to install with the extra option to dpkg: "--ignore-depends=debhelper" .  However, now aptitude is broken.  I want to automatically ignore the unmet dependency when I run apt-get, is this possible?
[18:18] <amok> hey, how do i launch the gl teapot ?
[18:19] <XMLnewbi> how do you edit the vsftpd.conf   for an FTP server via command line? SSH?       for some reason Im getting an access denied error when trying to upload via FTP
[18:19] <Calinou> amok: launch yourself
[18:20] <err-or> XMLnewbi: i'd choose SSH
[18:20] <leeping> Sorry, I just got disconnected, so if anyone posted an answer I didn't see it.
[18:21] <XMLnewbi> im in SSH, putty. thats the only way I know how to connect to my VPS.
[18:21] <err-or> leeping: which package did you install? and why?
[18:21] <err-or> XMLnewbi: so whats the problem now?
[18:21] <XMLnewbi> I want to edit my vsftpd.conf file
[18:21] <leeping> err-or, I installed a package called environment-modules.  It's a fairly well known method to load environment variables in a modular way (such as Intel compiler or CUDA environment variables.)
[18:21] <XMLnewbi> because I think my permissions are not set right
[18:22] <leeping> It depended on "debhelper" and I guessed that debhelper wasn't really essential.
[18:22] <Fox_candy> hi, anyone still awkae?
[18:22] <err-or> XMLnewbi: nano, vi, vim anyone ;)
[18:22] <leeping> because environment-modules is quite a simple package
[18:22] <leeping> It appears to work properly
[18:22] <err-or> leeping: tried aptitude yet?
[18:22] <err-or> leeping: im an aptitude user ;)
[18:22] <leeping> err-or, aptitude for what?
[18:22] <leeping> for environment variables?
[18:23] <JimmyNeutron> ltsp
[18:23] <JimmyNeutron> !ltsp
[18:24] <leeping> err-or, the program "aptitude" isn't in my path or on the command line
[18:24] <andygraybeal_> in the old days i think to install the GUI onto ubuntu server was to do something like: sudo apt-get ubuntu-desktop ... in 12.04, i would like the unity interface would this command do the trick?  or will this install gnome?
[18:24] <err-or> leeping: sadly ubuntu doesn't come with aptitude preinstalled anymore...
[18:25] <Pici> err-or: it does not handle multiarch properly.
[18:25] <leeping> err-or, I just installed aptitude, but I had to remove the environment-modules package first.
[18:25] <Pici> andygraybeal_: the ubuntu-desktop meta package will will install unity
[18:25] <err-or> Pici: ah i didn't know that. but its more handy to use imho
[18:25] <leeping> err-or, I'm running aptitude right now.
[18:26] <leeping> It's suggesting that I remove the "environment-modules" package
[18:26] <adac> any ideas: "The NVIDIA X driver on xxxx is not new enough to support the nvidia-settings Display Configuration page"
[18:26] <leeping> but I would just prefer apt-get to ignore this package as if it didn't exist
[18:26] <err-or> leeping: you can hit 'n' and it will recommend another solution.
[18:27] <err-or> adac: where does this pop up`
[18:27] <leeping> err-or, the keys I can press are '!' : Apply
[18:27] <leeping> or '.' : Next
[18:28] <leeping> Otherwise it's suggesting a rather large number of installs
[18:28] <adac> err-or, when I start "nvidea-settings" under X server display configuration. After an update on my precise machine this apperas
[18:28] <adac> appears
[18:28] <leeping> Should I proceed with the installs? Would this resolve the problem?
[18:28] <leeping> I'm worried it might make things worse.
[18:28] <err-or> adac: maybe you try the drivers from nvidia homepage
[18:28] <eutheria> should i use bumblebee or ironhide for optimus support?
[18:28] <adac> err-or, kk. but yeah this shouldn't happen, right?
[18:29] <err-or> leeping: better not. but why you don't compile the environments-modules package yourself?
[18:29] <lysek> yay it works, tnx for help guys, cya later
[18:29] <err-or> adac: shouldn't but could be your hardware is newer than the driver provided?
[18:29] <err-or> leeping: to get around a 'dependency hell'
[18:29] <leeping> err-or, I tried in the past, and I compiled it successfully I couldn't figure out how to enable the package.
[18:30] <adac> err-or, but it worked before the apt-get upgrade
[18:30] <err-or> leeping: ever used checkinstall?
[18:30] <leeping> err-or, no I haven't .. what is it?
[18:30] <adac> err-or, and my hardware didn't get any newer ;)
[18:30] <err-or> adac:  then im lost ;)
[18:30] <adac> err-or, darn!
[18:30] <adac> :)
[18:30] <err-or> leeping: it creates a deb package from your compiled software. check it out ;)
[18:31] <adac> err-or, at least i do not feel that alone beeing lost then
[18:31] <leeping> err-or, I will. :) Thanks.
[18:31] <waza-ari> Hey all. I currently try to install ubuntu 12.10 on a harddisk, where a bitlocker encrypted windows 7 is already present. I disables bitlocker, started ubuntu setup and created a 500MB unencrypted /boot partion. I now have ~260GB free and neet a swap space and a root partition. Both should be encrypted. How can that be done?
[18:31] <Porto> wow... when i upgrade my 12.04 to 12.10 the power goes off in the midle of upgrade and i run sudo apt-get distr-upgrade -f and restart and all thats ok :D
[18:31] <Porto> great ubuntu :P
[18:31] <err-or> waza-ari: cryptsetup is your friend
[18:32] <err-or> waza-ari: boot can't be encrypted then
[18:32] <dr_willis> Porto: you got lucky
[18:32] <Porto> now i'm running sudo apt-get install -f
[18:32] <Porto> to correct broken packages
[18:32] <Porto> i think :D
[18:32] <waza-ari> err-or: sure, boot cant be encrypted. Want to encrypt swap and /root. i am currently in the ubuntu setup, in the partioning screen
[18:32] <err-or> adac: may be a bug or something
[18:33] <leeping> err-or, I just ran "configure ; make ; make install" as root for the environment-modules package.  The thing is, I've done this before and the package doesn't work
[18:33] <leeping> It seems silly, but the "module" commands are not scripts in the PATH
[18:33] <err-or> waza-ari: i use lvm and cryptsetup for this purpose. but i don't do this with the setup. i boot a live cd first. encrypt stuff create lvm and install ubuntu into this environment.
[18:33] <leeping> they are more like macros
[18:33] <leeping> and I don't know how to enable them
[18:33] <pibarnas> is there a way to modify the ubuntu font natively, without installing new software? I intend to install it on a machine without internet and the its monitor's very large...
[18:34] <Porto> greatttttttt :D
[18:34] <err-or> leeping: don't use make install, user checkinstall: ./configure, make, sudo checkinstall... first apt-get install checkinstall.
[18:34] <eutheria> damn this optimus technology
[18:34] <err-or> leeping: maybe you need to adjust your configure. try configure --help
[18:35] <tyler_d> well thank-you ChanServ
[18:35] <mustu> hi apparmor is not starting mysql after i setup the replication parameters in my.cnf..
[18:36] <leeping> err-or, the readme is a bit complicated.  Basically I need to edit the global bashrc in /etc/bash.bashrc to load this new bashrc file
[18:37] <tyler_d> mustu: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-change-the-mysql-data-default-directory.html <--- or such
[18:37] <waza-ari> err-or: okay, thanks. Will try it this way, somehow thing, its not possible directly from the setup. Do you have some more reading for lvm / cryptsetup encryption and installation?
[18:37] <User123> Hello! How do I make shortcut for hibernating?
[18:38] <err-or> waza-ari: maybe this helps: http://www.google.de/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=encrypt%20root%20ubuntu%20lvm&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CCgQFjAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fhelp.ubuntu.com%2Fcommunity%2FEncryptedFilesystemLVMHowto&ei=eTWIUK6vBo_GswaY9YGIBQ&usg=AFQjCNGOJEbNfckDUziMMS7SFtvrWKZr7g
[18:38] <err-or> ups sorry.
[18:38] <err-or> waza-ari: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemLVMHowto
[18:38] <User123> *suspending.
[18:39] <User123> Command pm-suspend works only in console.
[18:39] <waza-ari> err-or: "# outdated, no good. " should not be a problem? ;)
[18:39] <err-or> waza-ari: as i read it its almost the same procedure.
[18:39] <waza-ari> err-or: okay, i will give it a try
[18:39] <waza-ari> thanks
[18:40] <err-or> waza-ari: it also links to this one https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystems
[18:40] <err-or> waza-ari: maybe you should adopt to actual mechanisms ;)
[18:41] <err-or> waza-ari: for encrypting i use aes-xts-benbi on x64 systems and aes-xts-plain
[18:42] <err-or> waza-ari: for x86
[18:43] <waza-ari> err-or: okay, thanks... the link suggests to install the packet hashalot. What does it do? It is not in the repos anymore
[18:44] <waza-ari> err-or: ah, forget it, sometimes it helps to read. its included in cryptsetup now.
[18:45] <err-or> waza-ari: i don't install it. if you want to get sure that NO ONE can read your files. first overwrite the whole disk with random stuff like dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sda, encrypt the disk (except boot) cryptsetup -c aes-xts-plain -s 512 luksFormat /dev/sdX2
[18:46] <waza-ari> err-or: the device is brand new, there are no old data. its a completly new setup
[18:46] <err-or> waza-ari: open the encrypte disk cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sdX2 bla. then create lvm on encrypted disk. pvcreate /dev/mapper/bla... and so on ;)
[18:47] <err-or> waza-ari: do it anyhow. brand new disk is zeroed. so you can guess where is data and where not
[18:49] <waza-ari> err-or: okay, ill do that.
[18:49] <err-or> waza-ari: can take some time ;)
[18:52] <err-or> leeping: can't help you with that sorry...
[18:54] <dr_willis> for the truely paranoid ;-)
[18:55] <lourtyp> I cant install kexec-tools. stuck for hours :(
[18:55] <err-or> dr_willis: sure ;)
[18:56] <waza-ari> err-or: yeah, even with urandom it will be slow. Spent the whole evening encrypting the windows partion with bitlocker already
[18:56] <wilee-nilee> lourtyp, Must be an error in done from the cli, pastebin them.
[18:56] <waza-ari> err-or: thanks for your help, i guess it should now be possible for me ;)
[18:56] <lourtyp> Setting up kexec-tools (1:2.0.3-1ubuntu2) ... Searching for GRUB installation directory ... found: /boot/grub Searching for default file ... found: /boot/grub/default Testing for an existing GRUB menu.lst file ... found: /boot/grub/menu.lst Searching for splash image ... none found, skipping ... Found kernel: /vmlinuz-3.5.0-17-generic Found kernel: /memtest86+.bin
[18:56] <err-or> waza-ari: thers a faster method. frandom, but i don't know how to use it with ubuntu.
[18:57] <kracekumar> I made liveusb and boot flag is set up, but I get boot error during booting.
[18:57] <err-or> kracekumar: how did you made this live usb?
[18:57] <waza-ari> err-or: hope it will be less than two hours or so, i will just wait. Have another pc and a huge amount of work to do, so.... no problem to wait ;)
[18:57] <kracekumar> err-or, unetbootin
[18:58] <lourtyp> wilee-nilee: it gets stuck at Found kernel: /vmlinuz-3.5.0-17-generic Found kernel: /memtest86+.bin
[18:58] <kracekumar> err-or, created two partitions one fat32 where OS is copied with boot flag
[18:59] <wilee-nilee> lourtyp, You running grub legacy?
[19:00] <lourtyp> not sure. I guess
[19:00] <lourtyp> its not grub2
[19:00] <mustu> hi on ubuntu in my.cnf i see log_bin instead of log-bin .. are they same?
[19:01] <wilee-nilee> lourtyp, what does this command show. lsb_release -a
[19:02] <lourtyp> wilee-nilee: ubuntu 12.10
[19:02] <lourtyp> it actually is lubuntu
[19:03] <wilee-nilee> lourtyp, Not sure why you are having problems to be honest, or why you would run grub legeacy but the appears to be within that area, as far as what you have posted.
[19:03] <leeping> err-or, I successfully installed the package at last. :)
[19:03] <wilee-nilee> but the error
[19:03] <leeping> Hopefully I can remember how to do it next time.  Thanks for your help.
[19:04] <lourtyp> wilee-nilee: I want to boot from SD (which is essentially usb interface in bios). but I don't have boot option from SD. so I figured I can modify grub to do that.
[19:04] <wilee-nilee> lourtyp, Did you completely purge grub2
[19:04] <lourtyp> no wilee-nilee, should I?
[19:04] <mustu> hi, apparmor isn't allowing me to setup replication in mysql. what parameters needs to be changed in apparmor mysql config
[19:04] <wilee-nilee> lourtyp, Having both can cause problems
[19:05] <lourtyp> I can't do any more apt-get
[19:05] <lourtyp> because kexec install get stuck wilee-nilee
[19:05] <lourtyp> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock -
[19:05] <wilee-nilee> lourtyp, I would not use grub legacy myself, I'm not certain this is your problem though.
[19:07] <lourtyp> I searched around a lot. couldn't find one tutorial that actually works. I have the mint iso written on SD. just want to boot from it
[19:07] <Hetep-AFK> hey, am wanting to use apache2 to host webpages on a personal home desktop... is somebody around who can give a walk-through?
[19:07] <MiningMarsh> lourtyp: you just want to boot an iso from sd? I can help you set that up with syslinux.
[19:08] <MiningMarsh> lourtyp: Is it a livecd iso? I can only help with that.
[19:08] <lourtyp> cheers MiningMarsh. yeah I did write it to SD using unetboot
[19:08] <lourtyp> yes MiningMarsh
[19:08] <lourtyp> Xubuntu live cd MiningMarsh
[19:09] <MiningMarsh> lourtyp: Well, try this first: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/ It has been a while, not sure I remeber exactly how to set it up manually...
[19:09] <XMLnewbi> any idea why I get an "Accress denied error" when I try to edit top level files on my FTP server, but I can edit files in the folers just fine?
[19:09] <lourtyp> I dont have windows MiningMarsh
[19:09] <XMLnewbi> cant even edit my index.html
[19:10] <lourtyp> would be super easy if I had :D
[19:10] <MiningMarsh> lourtyp: Well, this method is supposed to work for any iso: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/boot-multiple-iso-from-usb-via-grub2-using-linux/ That entire site is pretty nice for that stuff.
[19:11] <MiningMarsh> thats an install from linux
[19:11] <yakeb> hi #ubuntu, i am struggling getting a wifi card working. the chipset is realtek 8188cu, kernel is 3.0.0-12, 11.10 oneiric. it automatically installed when plugged in, but would not connect to wifi network. i've uninstalled the driver but can't get it reinstalled. any help would be greatly appreciated.
[19:11] <lourtyp> wilee-nilee: how can I abor kexec installation? I give that up
[19:11] <Hetep-AFK> anybody know how to setup an apache server for hosting webpages on a desktop?
[19:11] <lourtyp> MiningMarsh: isn't it an exe file?
[19:12] <lourtyp> I give it a try MiningMarsh
[19:12] <MiningMarsh> lourtyp: no, that page is linux only. You install grub2 to the flash drive, and grub 2 pretends the iso is a cd
[19:13] <lourtyp> MiningMarsh: my apt-get is stuck whilst installing kexec-tools
[19:13] <lourtyp> how can I abort it?
[19:13] <MiningMarsh> lourtyp: Do you already have grub2?
[19:13] <lourtyp> I have grub
[19:13] <lourtyp> not sure its grub2 or not
[19:13] <MiningMarsh> lourtyp: Grub or grub2? If you ahve grub2, you don't need apt-get for that page. All standard terminal commands.
[19:13] <kracekumar> what are the possible situation live usb bootup showing Boot error, built with unetbootin & boot flag is set
[19:14] <Tr0xitY> Can i install openssh through LARA? Remote Console (LARA)
[19:14] <Tr0xitY> http://wiki.hetzner.de/index.php/LARA/en
[19:14] <lourtyp> MiningMarsh: I dont have grub2 command. so no I guess I dont have it
[19:15] <MiningMarsh> lourtyp: The command is actually grub-install. not quite sure how to test if you have it for grub or grub2 though.
[19:16] <lourtyp> do you know how to abort kexec install?
[19:19] <zetheroo> almost the end of October ... isn't 12.10 supposed to be released this month? :D
[19:20] <Trogoniformes> set activity_hide_level parts joins quits nicks modes
[19:20] <wilee-nilee> lourtyp, close all install apps open a terminal and run sudo dpkg --configure -a
[19:20] <stercor> How do I mount an LVM disk?
[19:20] <donofrio> ActionParsnip, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1303056/
[19:20] <lourtyp> wilee-nilee: it goes back to stuck that way. tried that
[19:20] <h22turbo> is anyone else having problem when apt-get update? Im froze at 90% [Connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com (91.189.91.14)]
[19:21] <wilee-nilee> lourtyp, Ah, I wish I new more here.
[19:21] <h22turbo> us.archive.ubuntu.com seems to be down
[19:21] <JuanNightStand> how do I restore window themes after activating dual monitors?
[19:21] <donofrio> aarggh
[19:21] <donofrio> root@donofrio-OptiPlex-745:~# unity --reset
[19:21] <donofrio> ERROR: the reset option is now deprecated
[19:21] <donofrio> reset is removed - really??
[19:21] <countley> best program to use to convert movies???
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> countley: there isn't a single best app for anything, in any OS
[19:22] <dniMretsaM> countley: I would look into FFmpeg
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> countley: whatare you converting from-to?
[19:22] <zetheroo> was 12.10 supposed to be released on the 18th of October?
[19:22] <countley> frm avi to dvd format
[19:23] <zetheroo> as per  ... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseSchedule
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> countley: I use devede
[19:23] <wilee-nilee> lourtyp, With all closed you can delete the lock with sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> countley: you can make a menu item for each video and you will get a DVD ISO you can burn with any burner
[19:23] <lourtyp> wilee-nilee: done that. let me try install something.
[19:23] <keithzg> zetheroo: are you trolling? 12.10 has been out for days now.
[19:23] <zetheroo> ??
[19:24] <zetheroo> really?
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> !quantal
[19:24] <Tr0xitY> Can i install openssh through LARA? Remote Console (LARA)
[19:24] <Tr0xitY> http://wiki.hetzner.de/index.php/LARA/en
[19:24] <keithzg> It's even in the topic for this very channel, heh, and of course on the ubuntu.com front page.
[19:24] <wilee-nilee> lourtyp, You probably have broken packages, which may cause problems, you will have to remove those.
[19:24] <zetheroo> shoot! I missed the release party again! :P
[19:24] <countley> thankyou will try tht
[19:25] <rhagu> hi, I have some trouble with my harddisk this is what syslog shows, but I do not know, what it means: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1303381/
[19:25] <ActionParsnip> countley: your question is as intelligent as asking "What is the best drink, I'm thirsty"
[19:25] <zetheroo> wow ... ubuntu.com is being hammered ... can't even open the home page
[19:25] <ActionParsnip> countley: you will only get opinions, none are 'best'
[19:25] <donofrio> can anyone help - http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1303383/
[19:26] <h22turbo> is anyone having problems with apt-get update???? or us.archive.ubuntu.com ?????
[19:26] <yeehi> generally speaking, if there is an application listed in synaptic for ubuntu, such as keepass2, but there is a more recent version available on the developers website, what should we do? Install using the ubuntu version, then download and somehow use the newer package to update the existing one? is that difficult to do?
[19:26] <donofrio> its unity issue - its not working
[19:26] <donofrio> )-:
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> h22turbo: try switching to the main repo
[19:26] <wilee-nilee> zetheroo, opens here, must be a problem between you and the site.
[19:26] <dniMretsaM> h22turbo: I'm not (I just used it on 2 machines). What errors are you getting?
[19:26] <donofrio> ActionParsnip, your back
[19:26] <donofrio> I mean I'm back
[19:26] <lourtyp> I cant install anything with apt-get anymore. says "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem." if I do that, then it gets stuck again in installing kexec-tools. how can I abort that and delete kexec-tools
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> donofrio: "you're"   not your
[19:27] <donofrio> what did you type last time as to how to resolve this - unity : Depends: libunity-core-6.0-5 (= 6.6.0-0ubuntu3) but 6.6.0-0ubuntu1 is installed
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> donofrio: you could grab debs from launchpad and install them
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> donofrio: you can see old commands with:  history | grep wget
[19:27] <wilee-nilee> lourtyp, Find the packages installed in that attempt to install kexec-tools and remove them they are broken, I think that is what is going on.
[19:27] <donofrio> I cannot browse launchpad?  or at least not that url
[19:28] <h22turbo> http://pastebin.com/RSDDVULV
[19:28] <h22turbo> dniMretsaM: http://pastebin.com/RSDDVULV
[19:28] <trism> donofrio: are you on 12.10? if so, you should instead run: sudo apt-get update; plus upgrade and dist-upgrade, since unity is at 6.8.0
[19:30] <aptosid> sudo mount -o bind /lib/init/rw/resolvconf/resolv.config /mnt/etc/resolv.conf
[19:30] <aptosid> mount: mount point /mnt/etc/resolv.conf is a symbolic link to nowhere
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> donofrio: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/119571639/libunity-core-6.0-5_6.8.0-0ubuntu2_amd64.deb
[19:30] <samgenius> hi
[19:30] <h22turbo> dniMretsaM: us.archive.ubuntu.com resolves to 91.189.91.13 91.189.91.14 and 91.189.91.15 - I've tried all ips and same thing
[19:30] <donofrio> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[19:30] <donofrio>   unity
[19:30] <donofrio> )-:
[19:31] <wilee-nilee> lourtyp, Try sudo dpkg --purge kexec-tools
[19:31] <dniMretsaM> h22turbo: well. you could try another archive as a temporary fix. I just checked again and I have no issue
[19:31] <lourtyp> cheers
[19:31] <wilee-nilee> lourtyp, then sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[19:31] <willdabeast> can anyone tell me whether they feel LFS(Linux from scratch) is a good idea to learn the internals of linux? Anyone with experience with it?
[19:31] <ann-sophie> i'im questoning myself on the ncessity of the install of ubuntu...i dowloaded it...and it start on my usb key...asking me if i want to install it....
[19:32] <ann-sophie> when i say yes it install on my usb3 drive...it wont boot
[19:32] <aptosid> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=12315665&postcount=12 i also cant update from chroot
[19:32] <lourtyp> I thing clean one did the trick willdabeast
[19:32] <ActionParsnip> donofrio: i'd remove all the unity packages in root recovery mode then reinstall unity. or install xfce4, log in to the xfce session then do it there
[19:32] <lourtyp> I thing clean one did the trick wilee-nilee
[19:32] <andrewh192> hey, i am having troubles with the new version of ubuntu 12.10
[19:33] <dniMretsaM> h22turbo: try visiting it in your browser. if it doesn't work, it's probably a network issue. otherwise I would assume you have an APT issue
[19:33] <willdabeast> lourtyp you think clean one did the trick? what is that?
[19:33] <dniMretsaM> h22turbo: "it" being us.archive.ubuntu.com
[19:33] <wilee-nilee> lourtyp, Cool I found a old ubuntu forums post with the exact same problem, it was very long so I just found the fix.
[19:33] <aptosid> dniMretsaM its an dns issue
[19:33] <andrewh192> the sidebar unity thing, that i usually have to open programs and folders, isn't available, and every time i start up, it says there is a unity greeter problem detected
[19:33] <h22turbo> dniMretsaM: browser says connection timed out
[19:33] <lourtyp> sorry wrong username willdabeast I meant wilee-nilee
[19:33] <willdabeast> lourtyp, gotcha
[19:34] <andrewh192> has anyone else had the same problem...
[19:34] <bekks> aptosid: Then replace the resolv.conf inside the chroot and use another mirror.
[19:34] <donofrio> ActionParsnip, =  xfce4 : Depends: xfwm4 (>= 4.10.0) but it is not going to be installed
[19:34] <dniMretsaM> aptosid: that would be a network issue. but how were you able to tell that?
[19:34] <andrewh192> the only reason i was able to open my irc program is cause i pushed the alt-shift-t thing and a terminal window opened up, and i then typed in quassel
[19:34] <wilee-nilee> ann-sophie, Did you boot the usb to the desktop, and it seems you say that you want a install or tried a install where?
[19:34] <andrewh192> and it opened...
[19:34] <aptosid> bekks sudo mount -o bind /etc/resolv.conf /mnt/etc/resolv.conf  mount: mount point /mnt/etc/resolv.conf is a symbolic link to nowhere
[19:35] <bekks> aptosid: I said replace, not bind mount :D
[19:35] <Zentaur> hi
[19:35] <aptosid> sudo mount -o bind /etc/resolv.conf /mnt/etc/resolv.conf
 mount: mount point /mnt/etc/resolv.conf is a symbolic link to nowhere
[19:35] <aptosid> bekks and how?
[19:35] <ann-sophie> wilee-nilee,  I downloaded 12.9 and used the usb apps to put it on my usb drive...to install it on my usb3 drive....
[19:35] <bekks> aptosid: By using "cp".
[19:36] <lourtyp> wilee-nilee: Errors were encountered while processing:  man-db  isc-dhcp-client E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[19:36] <dniMretsaM> h22turbo: then it's a network issue. according to aptosid, a DNS problem
[19:36] <Zentaur> i want to have a new e-mil account for many years, safe, private, imap support...
[19:36] <lourtyp> but I can install packages wilee-nilee
[19:36] <Zentaur> coud yu recomend mesomething?
[19:36] <wilee-nilee> ann-sophie, These are two different drives?
[19:37] <tacomaster> i was wondering i'm trying to get kleopatra to work for gpg messages but when i start the program i get "Unexpected error while asking gpg-agent for its version. The error returned was: IPC parameter error." anyone know how i can resolve this error or know a better program for gpg?
[19:37] <ann-sophie> yes
[19:37] <Zentaur> gmail is ok but i'm worried about my privacy
[19:37] <ann-sophie> the iso that i have put in my firstone to boot and install
[19:37] <ann-sophie> to install it on my second
[19:37] <wilee-nilee> ann-sophie, You can't boot a usb with the ISO and then install to it, if that is what you are trying to do
[19:38] <Zentaur> hushmail is perfect but it is webmail only and 25mb
[19:38] <aptosid> sudo cp /lib/init/rw/resolvconf/resolv.config /mnt/etc/resolv.conf
[19:38] <aptosid> cp: cannot stat `/lib/init/rw/resolvconf/resolv.config': No such file or directory
[19:38] <cebor> hase anybody else problems with setting up the time when screen turns off after, idle! The time i can set up has no effect, it always switch off after 5-10 min
[19:38] <cebor> ubuntu 12.10
[19:39] <ActionParsnip> aptosid: i don't have resolv.config anywhere in the OS
[19:39] <wols_> aptosid: "mount"
[19:40] <aptosid> so how to solve that?
[19:40] <XMLnewbi> "index.html - error occurred - An FTP error occurred - cannot put index.html.  Access denied.  The file may not exist, or there could be a permission problem.   Make sure you have proper authorization on the server and the server is properly configured."
[19:40] <donofrio> ActionParsnip, any idea I'm installing xcfe4 and get this for first file - http://launchpadlibrarian.net/118028029/unity_6.6.0-0ubuntu3_amd64.deb
[19:40] <donofrio> nm
[19:40] <donofrio> it is called "Err http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ quantal/universe desktop-base all 7.0.0ubuntu1
[19:40] <donofrio>   404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.200 80]
[19:40] <donofrio> "
[19:41] <donofrio> where is this file on launchpad?
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> donofrio: did you try the fixpackage script
[19:41] <donofrio> uh what where?
[19:41] <trism> donofrio: I said earlier you need to: sudo apt-get update; (you may also need to change mirror), those packages are old
[19:41] <trism> donofrio: though archive.ubuntu.com should be okay
[19:42] <wilee-nilee> !md5sum > willee
[19:42] <ActionParsnip> donofrio: wget https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/fixpackage; chmod +x ./fixpackage; sudo ./fixpackage
[19:43] <XMLnewbi> This was working before. For some reason i can edit files in folders on the FTP server but not my index
[19:43] <donofrio> ActionParsnip, running it now
[19:44] <willdabeast> can anyone tell me whether they feel LFS(Linux from scratch) is a good idea to learn the internals of linux? Anyone with experience with it?
[19:44] <donofrio> wow taking awhile (-:
[19:46] <wilee-nilee> willdabeast, never heard of it I think it is a personal journey man, use what works for you.
[19:47] <trism> willdabeast: it is a fun project, but you mostly learn compiling plus the basic structure of a linux system than any internals (not really on-topic here though)
[19:47] <willdabeast> wilee-nilee I mean it is basically a book that shows you how to start from scratch with building a linux OS. I just thought it would be interesting and helpful for learning the background of the filesystem etc. A little more hands on
[19:48] <willdabeast> trism ah I gotcha, yea that sounds pretty helpful though, but yea I will stop talking about it haha :)
[19:48] <gordonjcp> willdabeast: no, it's not a good way to learn the internals of linux
[19:49] <willdabeast> gordonjcp - any other suggestions?
[19:49] <gordonjcp> willdabeast: a good way to learn the internals of linux is to use some relatively easy-to-get-running distro like, uh, Ubuntu
[19:49] <wilee-nilee> willdabeast, Might be, I learned the little I really know from using it and lurking the UF until I could help same here. I am not a person who wants to be a IT person persay though.
[19:49] <gordonjcp> willdabeast: once you have some proficiency with Linux in general start looking at how the system is put together
[19:49] <gordonjcp> willdabeast: if you want something *useful* to do, look at OpenWRT and how that is built
[19:50] <mystMan> how do you kill skype on ubuntu
[19:50] <mystMan> damn program wont shut down to restart
[19:51] <willdabeast> ok well thanks for the help guys, I mean Ubuntu is helpful (obviously) but I am a very detail-oriented person, I love to see every nook and cranny of what's going on. ya know?
[19:51] <wilee-nilee> mystMan, try killall skyoe
[19:51] <wilee-nilee> killall skype
[19:53] <diogo_79> hi
[19:55] <JimmyNeutron> Anyone know how to remove the hostname from the login screen in terminal console(no X11 server installed)?  I was able to get rid of the Ubuntu release # by modifying the /etc/issue and /etc/issue.net, but can't get rid of the hostname.
[19:58] <NaZZaX> dumb question and i saw it said solved in the www.ubuntu.com help forum....but i changed my IP address for my host and when i do: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart I get the following error : (98) address already in use make_sock: could not bind to address 0.0.0.0:8140
[19:58] <NaZZaX> is there a file other than /etc/hosts and interface that has an IP in it?
[19:59] <ann-sophie> hello again sorry got dc, what should i do...I have the partition edition menu...from ext4 journaling files system, to ext3, ext2, reiseerfs, jfs or xfs
[19:59] <JimmyNeutron> NaZZaX, /etc/sysconfig/networking/*
[19:59] <bekks> NaZZaX: You already have a apache instance running.
[19:59] <bekks> Stop it, and restart your apache.
[19:59] <donofrio> ActionParsnip, what are these and why it it still runnning
[19:59] <donofrio> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[19:59] <donofrio> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[19:59] <donofrio> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[19:59] <donofrio> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[19:59] <donofrio> root@donofrio-OptiPlex-745:~# ps -ef | grep update
[19:59] <donofrio> donofrio  2161  1894  0 09:26 ?        00:00:01 update-notifier
[19:59] <donofrio> root      9568  7200  0 15:42 pts/1    00:00:07 /usr/bin/python3 /usr/bin/update-manager
[19:59] <FloodBot1> donofrio: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:59] <ActionParsnip> mystMan: ps -ef | grep -i skpe
[20:00] <ActionParsnip> donofrio: use a pastebin for multiple lies
[20:00] <ActionParsnip> *lines
[20:00] <ActionParsnip> donofrio: close the update manager app off
[20:00] <donofrio> I see - penalty box fr me
[20:00] <Hetep-AFK> hey, does anybody know how to setup an apache2 server for hosting webpages?
[20:01] <ActionParsnip> Hetep-AFK: sudo apt-get Install apache2
[20:01] <donofrio> ActionParsnip, they were are closed no pid for update-manager werre running before your fixpackages script
[20:01] <Hetep-AFK> yeah, already did that
[20:01] <NaZZaX> still will not bind : to ip
[20:01] <wilee-nilee> ann-sophie, This the something other menu in the install gui?
[20:02] <willdabeast> does anyone know a program that I can add to a bootable usb so I don't have to enter the BIOS and change the boot order for every computer I stick the usb in?
[20:02] <TheLordOfTime> Hetep-AFK, then you're already done for basics, are you asking how to do multiple domains on one server?
[20:02] <ann-sophie> yes
[20:02] <ann-sophie> its is now in fat32
[20:03] <Hetep-AFK> well, setting up the configuration for hosting a website is more involved than just installation
[20:03] <NaZZaX> there is no /etc/sysconfig/networking
[20:03] <ann-sophie> ./dev/sdc11 fat32
[20:03] <TheLordOfTime> Hetep-AFK, you didn't answer my question.
[20:03] <Hetep-AFK> oh
[20:03] <wilee-nilee> ann-sophie, You want ext4 click the format and the mount as / and make sure the screen leading to that, that has grub placement is to that usb, not a partition on it but to it sdX   X is the usb.
[20:03] <Hetep-AFK> yeah, probably eventually
[20:03] <blackness> what package contains 'pango'? im getting this error: checking for PANGO... no Cannot find Pango! If you are using binary packages based system, check that you
[20:03] <blackness> have the corresponding -dev/devel packages installed.
[20:04] <ann-sophie> i dotn want grub
[20:04] <Hetep-AFK> right now just have 1 domain purchased
[20:04] <donofrio> the crash reporter crashed
[20:04] <wilee-nilee> ann-sophie, You can have grub installed to that partition you install to then to not have it in the mbr.
[20:05] <wilee-nilee> ann-sophie,What are you going to use as a bootloader?
[20:05] <XMLnewbi> are there any good web hosting FTP control panels for ubuntu server?    not getting very far with this command line stuff
[20:06] <ann-sophie> welll tell my netbook to either boot from usb key and if no key boot from main hd
[20:07] <NaZZaX> is there a process called graphite I can stop thats using port 8140 ?
[20:07] <wilee-nilee> ann-sophie, Ubuntu wont boot from the usb the way you suggest unless you use like easybcd in windows if that is the setup, and the usb, wont boot on another computer randomly with grub in the mbr.
[20:07] <wilee-nilee> without grub in the mbr*
[20:07] <ann-sophie> ok
[20:07] <ann-sophie> thanks for the help
[20:07] <ann-sophie> :) much appreciated
[20:08] <[TiZ]> So I'm going to do a clean install upgrade to Quantal... but I want to do a minimal install. The alternate CD seems to be gone. Can I do a minimal install from the desktop CD now?
[20:08] <wilee-nilee> ann-sophie no problem I would put grub in the usb's mbr myself, it would still boot with easybcd from windows if needed.
[20:08] <wilee-nilee> well maybe not actually with easybcd now that I think about it ann-sophie
[20:09] <willdabeast> how do you see what kernel you are currently running in terminal again?
[20:09] <alone> willdabeast: uname -a
[20:09] <willdabeast> alone ty
[20:10] <trism> JimmyNeutron: hmm, I see that adding --nohostname to the getty line in the upstart /etc/init/tty?.conf removes the hostname from the login: line
[20:12] <willdabeast> wilee-nilee you were telling me how to delete the extra kernels the other day, you said you use tweak, which part of tweak is that option?
[20:13] <wilee-nilee> willdabeast, click the start janitor you will see the cleanup list.
[20:14] <willdabeast> gotcha
[20:14] <trism> JimmyNeutron: better yet, you can copy just the exec line to /etc/init/tty?.override; and add it there
[20:14] <wilee-nilee> willdabeast, It will remove all but the one you are using so if you want at least two sets which is generally advised look close.
[20:15] <willdabeast> wilee-nilee yea I see it, well organized, I like it
[20:16] <wilee-nilee> willdabeast, easy cleaning for sure.
[20:16] <XMLnewbi> anyone have any suggestions on any control panels for website managment? is webmin any good? is it compatible with 12.04 I want to dl the debian package right?
[20:17] <trism> JimmyNeutron: though if you meant the hostname above that it appears to be the \n in /etc/issue
[20:19] <iceroot> !webmin | XMLnewbi
[20:19] <donofrio> ActionParsnip - just in case I never tell you - you are great and the other like you that help us out - please never give up on knowledge transfer that you all do....
[20:20] <Hetep-AFK> can't seem to get the ServerName to respond with the url of the webpage
[20:20] <XMLnewbi> are there any good alternitives?
[20:20] <Hetep-AFK> was reading, & it says add the ServerName directive for directing to the url of the website
[20:21] <yitz_> Ubuntu 12.04. Is there away guides on getting a VPN server up and running on a box?
[20:21] <iceroot> !vpn | yitz_
[20:21] <yitz_> Thanks
[20:21] <mirak> if i do a lvm snapshot of device A, then do dd if=A-snapshot of=B, will there be a problem like same uuid for the device, stuffs like that ?
[20:22] <dzup> here we go again, after installing ubuntu i lost my windows 7, how can i recover my win7 partition and do not lost my ubuntu partition?
[20:22] <yitz_> Meh. I'd like OpenVPN without requiring X11
[20:22] <dzup> *without
[20:23] <SolarisB1y> mirak: are you trying to restore the contents of a snapsht back to disk?
[20:24] <wilee-nilee> dzup, Are you sure you lost the partition, is it not showing in a sudo fdisk -l
[20:24] <mirak> SolarisB1y, no, i have 12.04 and want to upgrade to 12.10, but i want to be able to revert to 12.04, so i do a multiboot
[20:24] <dzup> wilee-nilee, i mean, my partition is there, windows halts on booting mbr error
[20:25] <SolarisB1y> mirak: ahh i see
[20:25] <mirak> SolarisB1y, so i am going to create a new logical volume, dd the snapshot of 12.04 volume to it, change some path in fstab
[20:25] <wilee-nilee> dzup, Did you remove the boot partition for windows?
[20:25] <Fishscene> How do I remove the bastardized "3rd party" search scope when I search for files on my computer?
[20:26] <wilee-nilee> dzup, Pastebin the out put od sudo fdisk -lu
[20:26] <wilee-nilee> of*
[20:26] <dzup> wilee-nilee, no i havent touch either, i just install ubuntu and after i try to boot windows, i see windows splash screen and all but the boot haltfs, i guess ubuntu mess my windows boot record or some
[20:27] <SolarisB1y> mirak: gotcha -
[20:27] <wilee-nilee> dzup, unlikely, I suspect you are missing a bootflag or that windows needs a chkdsk, if it is corrupted enough grub will not boot it
[20:27] <Toni68> !list
[20:28] <dzup> wilee-nilee, i have the original dvd from windows here, i was thinking booting and go ms-prompt , then bootrec /fixboot or /fixmbr but am not sure which
[20:28] <dzup> wilee-nilee, i dont want to lost my ubuntu partition either
[20:28] <wilee-nilee> dzup, bootrec.exe /fixmbr  will reload the MS bootloader do that then defragg windows.
[20:28] <Fishscene> How do I remove the crappy software that submits my search terms to Facebook, Twitter, BBC, and Amazon?
[20:29] <XMLnewbi> I hate this crap, I miss godaddys control panel I cant do shit from command line
[20:29] <dzup> wilee-nilee roger that, but to get my ubuntu again along with windows 7 i have to reinstall ubuntu or grub-install again?
[20:29] <Fishscene> ...and no, Canonical, I do NOT automatically consent to having you collect my IP address and search term.
[20:29] <wilee-nilee> dzup, YOU will not loose eithier partition unlesss you delete it. windows may just need a defragg, and possibly a chkdsk then have grub installed back to the mbr to run. I assume this is not a UEFI problem.
[20:30] <SolarisB1y> what software is that Fishscene ?
[20:30] <TheLordOfTime> uh... what?
[20:30] <Fishscene> SolarisB1y: I don't know. That's why I'm asking.
[20:30] <dzup> wilee-nilee, roger, i be right back then, thank you sir
[20:30] <SolarisB1y> Fishscene: are you sure it's not the web pages that your hitting?
[20:30] <wilee-nilee> dzup, loading the mbr is rather easy we have links for you.
[20:30] <Fishscene> Ubuntu 12.10: All search terms are collected and recorded along with your IP address, and shared with Facebook, Twitter, BBC, and Amazon
[20:31] <trism> Fishscene: System Settings/Privacy/Include online results, No
[20:31] <imnotu> hi can anyone help me with my screencard issue?
[20:32] <mirak> SolarisB1y, it's suicide to upgrade a ubuntu without having a fallback :p
[20:32] <wilee-nilee> imnotu, graphic card?
[20:32] <Fishscene> trism: Thanks. But Canonical NEEDS to make this OPT-IN.
[20:32] <imnotu> nvidia problem
[20:32] <dzup> wilee-nilee, can you share them?
[20:32] <dzup> before i do something i like to read them wilee-nilee
[20:32] <Fishscene> It's kind of like attaching a EULA to a brick and tossing it through someone's window. "By accepting this brick through your Window, you agree to pay for all damages caused by this brick..."
[20:33] <SolarisB1y> yea that is pretty shady
[20:33] <wilee-nilee> dzup, here is a chroot link for ubuntu. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_ChRoot
[20:33] <SolarisB1y> smh@canonical - i looked up that sentence you posted and how to disable it came in the same search result
[20:33] <spikebike> what is it called when you move a window near an edge and unity wants to make it full screen?
[20:34] <riqdiiz> does Ubuntu 12.10 come with sound  or you have to down the codecs?
[20:34] <schultza> how does name resolve order on samba affect nautilis's browse network function?
[20:34] <dzup> wilee-nilee, 10.4 sir, thank you
[20:34] <wilee-nilee> dzup, JUst read carefully it has commands for specifi setups in the chroot instructions.
[20:34] <digitalslave> anyone know if the X windows crash bug was fixed in the latest version where certain media or flash videos would crash X?
[20:34] <wilee-nilee> makes it a bit confusing is all, dzup
[20:34] <Fishscene> Needless to say, because of this blatant disregard for the privacy of individuals, I will not be continuing my push for Ubuntu in my workplace. GJ Canonical, you just lost inroads at my company. How many more will you burn before you get your act together?
[20:34] <guntbert> Fishscene: while I agree on "opt-in" this is not the place to discuss it
[20:35] <Fishscene> Anyway, I'm off.
[20:36] <riqdiiz> wilee-nilee does Ubuntu 12.10 come with sound  or you have to down the codecs?
[20:36] <wilee-nilee> riqdiiz, Should have sound stock
[20:36] <Fishscene> One last question. For the privacy setting to disable online search results in the dash, is that system-wide or per-user?
[20:36] <XMLnewbi> trying to install ehcp;   I type install.sh and get returned unknown job       on this step  http://www.ehcp.net/helper/yardim/cat.php?cid=1&qid=43&i=Continue:%20start%20install.sh
[20:37] <joel> I'm trying to figure out how to search after specific text "@" in all files in a folder..
[20:37] <jrib> Fishscene: well if a user does it, it's obviously per-user
[20:37] <wilee-nilee> Fishscene, That info is collected all the time on the web from sites and search engines.
[20:37] <jrib> Guest47508: grep -r
[20:37] <dzup> wilee-nilee, but am not in a jail-chroot, this is ubuntu grub2 normal install along with windows 7
[20:37] <wilee-nilee> and shrared
[20:37] <Guest47508> jrib: then @?
[20:37] <spikebike> Anyone know what the move window to an edge and it tries to go full screen thing in unity?
[20:37] <jrib> Guest47508: grep -r PATTERN FOLDER
[20:37] <Hetep-AFK> hello, am setting up a webpage with apache2 server & getting an error upon server restart:  * Restarting web server apache2                                                apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using ::1 for ServerName
[20:37] <Hetep-AFK>  ... waiting apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using ::1 for ServerName
[20:38] <guntbert> !adlens | Fishscene that might help you too
[20:38] <wilee-nilee> dzup, right it is just instructions on chrooting in to run grub-instal /dev/sdX
[20:38] <celthunder> Hetep-AFK: set a hostname
[20:38] <dzup> ok, brb than, wilee-nilee
[20:38] <wilee-nilee>  grub-install /dev/sdX*
[20:38] <digitalslave> Hetep-AFK: and that shouldnt stop it from functioning
[20:38] <Hetep-AFK> celthunder: where in the configuration file is that accomplished?
[20:38] <dzup> wilee-nilee, roger that
[20:39] <celthunder> Hetep-AFK: and one that follows fqdn in /etc/hosts and in your sites-available if that doesnt work..it should work regardless though depending on if you have virtual hosts
[20:39] <Hetep-AFK> digitalslave, it doesn't listen for the domain name of the webpage
[20:39] <wilee-nilee> dzup, sounds like you know how to chroot already.
[20:39] <Fishscene> guntbert: Thanks mate. I can't have people in my company sending everything they look for to Canonical. Serious step backwards, but at least I can remove the package now
[20:39] <imnotu> wilee-nilee : ive intel core 2 duo and nvidia g86 the problem is that although my computer has only one graphic card(no integrated one) ive a nvidia problem. bumblebee doesnt work and ive a low resolution
[20:40] <imnotu> do you know what this is about
[20:40] <Hetep-AFK> celthunder, am creating a copy of the default file in /etc/apache2/sites-available called the name of the webdomain & added directives ServerName & ServerAlias
[20:40] <wilee-nilee> imnotu, nvidia is out of my pay range I know nothing in this area. I will say though that listing the setup including the card is helpful, you mention bumblebee though some recognize that.
[20:41] <Guest47508> jrib: tried that.. :(
[20:41] <XMLnewbi> i installed ECHP   and im in the right directory.    when i type ls   I see the install.sh                       what is the command to run the damn thing?                 start  install.sh    returns   command not found!
[20:41] <imnotu> thanks
[20:42] <wilee-nilee> imnotu,bumblebee is used only in specific situations, so make sure you communicate this was advised with your specific setuop, or you were just trying stuff.
[20:42] <celthunder> Hetep-AFK: you can just add it in the file under the virtualhost dir thing and only do that if it doesnt work after making sure it's right in /etc/hosts and when you do hostname -f
[20:42] <jrib> Guest47508: and?
[20:42] <TheLordOfTime> XMLnewbi, try ./install.sh
[20:42] <dzup> wilee-nilee, this laptop have freebsd, ubuntu and windows 7  in it, but before i have freebsd, windows 7 working along with grub2 just fine, but then i install ubuntu 12.01 this morning and my windows 7 blow, heh, just making sure i dont loose anything :)
[20:42] <TheLordOfTime> XMLnewbi, 'start' isnt a command ;P
[20:42] <Guest47508> jrib: grep -r @ just stands still black.. prbarbly loading.. loads of files1 just want to know if it's functioning
[20:43] <jrib> Guest47508: you forgot the FOLDER part
[20:43] <wilee-nilee> dzup, I would to.
[20:43] <XMLnewbi> there we go thank you
[20:43] <imnotu> wilee-nilee thanks
[20:43] <imnotu> ill check it up
[20:44] <Guest47508> jrib: im googling now
[20:44] <jrib> Guest47508: why are you googling?
[20:44] <jrib> Guest47508: what folder do you want to search?
[20:45] <wilee-nilee> dzup, I clone everything that is my insurance, and I keep all my important stuff on externals.
[20:45] <spikebike> ah, disable sticky windows and disabling grid results in mostly sane behavior from unity
[20:45] <Guest47508> jrib: find / -type f -exec grep -l "@" {} \;
[20:45] <Guest47508> seems to work
[20:45] <slackguru> I have a piece of software that is telling me the automake 1.11.3 is too old for and that 1.11.6 is required. Am I going to see any other problems if I were to integrate the package from quantal into my precise build?
[20:45] <jparker> have you guys ever seen a really big load like 2.0 or above and not actually see that represented in top?
[20:45] <jparker> i even installed htop and same results
[20:46] <Guest47508> jrib: /home/joel/mail/mailbox
[20:46] <jrib> Guest47508: grep -r '@' /home/joel/mail/mailbox
[20:46] <Guest47508> jrib: king!
[20:47] <guntbert> jparker: how did you determine the load?
[20:47] <jparker> in top, I look at the 5 10 15 min load numbers
[20:47] <Guest47508> jrib: is it possible to export all files to a .txt or such?
[20:48] <guntbert> jparker: yes, but you said top didn't show it?
[20:48] <jparker> top doesnt show a specific process taking all of that load
[20:49] <jparker> I cant identify like I normally do what is taking up all the processor
[20:49] <guntbert> !who | jparker
[20:49] <SolarisB1y> jparker: have you sorted top output by PCPU and such?
[20:50] <SolarisB1y> jparker: are you taking the load of 2.0 from a uptime value or do you know a single process is actually responsible for this?
[20:50] <jrib> Guest47508: you mean save the results to a text file?
[20:50] <pizzalover101> Hello, yesterday I upgraded form 12.04 to 12.10, using gnome classic, and my screen resolution is huge, any help?
[20:50] <guntbert> jparker: high load can happen even when the cpu is doing very little - I/O processes slowing evrything down for instance
[20:50] <wilee-nilee> slackguru, Your problem is outside the channel help parameters basically so the help may be sparse if at all.
[20:51] <lysek> hello, after installing nvidia current on my lenovo i get stuck with 640x480 resolution and i cant change it in kde, any fix?
[20:51] <Guest47508> jrib: yeah, >> filename.txt might work?
[20:51] <jrib> Guest47508: yes
[20:51] <jparker> SolarisB1y: I have sorted top output by pcpu and still cant find it.  I am taking it from the uptime value and not via a single process
[20:51] <pizzalover101> lysek: I'm having the same problem using gnome classic
[20:52] <Guest47508> jrib: wasn't as quick as just writing grep -r ..
[20:52] <Guest47508> :D
[20:52] <wilee-nilee> pizzalover101, you checked display?
[20:52] <lysek> pizzalover101:  did you found anything bout it?
[20:52] <SolarisB1y> jparker: then yes like guntbert said you may want to widen the range of things your looking for in top like is anything i/o intensive running etc
[20:53] <pizzalover101> wilee-nilee: Yeah, only one setting I can't change it
[20:53] <pizzalover101> lysek:  nothing so far :/
[20:53] <lysek> i cant changr it either
[20:53] <lysek> ;/
[20:53] <SolarisB1y> jparker: how many processors/cores?
[20:53] <wilee-nilee> pizzalover101, Probably a graphic card driver needs to be loaded, just guessing though.
[20:53] <SolarisB1y> jparker: which value was the 2.0 in 1,5 or 15?
[20:53] <pizzalover101> Are you using amd catalyst?
[20:54] <pizzalover101> wilee-nilee: I'm not an ubuntu expert, where would i find that?
[20:54] <lysek> i have only two option 640x480 and disable in kde disply settings
[20:54] <donofrio> lysek, lspsi returns what for video card?
[20:54] <donofrio> lspci I meant
[20:55] <wilee-nilee> pizzalover101, THe additional drivers setu is now in software sources found in the edit of the software center, otherwise drivers in this area I'm not really familiar with.
[20:55] <pizzalover101> wilee-nilee:  thanks!
[20:55] <lysek> donofrio: 01:00.0 3D controller: NVIDIA Corporation Device 1140 (rev a1)
[20:56] <XMLnewbi> ehcp : Finished all operations.. go to your panel at http://yourip/ now...                        what does that mean?
[20:56] <wilee-nilee> pizzalover101, Sure, just be aware that a added driver may make the system even more unusable, so you want to know how to reverse stuff, more help might be wise here.
[20:56] <XMLnewbi> nm
[20:56] <SuperMiguel> Im trying to install ubuntu using software raid, raid 0 for / and raid 1 for /boot... I created all arrays with mdadm and installed it.. the installation finished, when when i reboot i just takes me to a BusyBox screen
[20:57] <lysek> crap i dont know what to do
[20:57] <lysek> 640x480 is so small
[20:57] <Tech-1> lysek>  kubuntu 12.10 ?
[20:58] <dr_willis> i rember when 640x480 was awsome ;)
[20:58] <SolarisB1y> lol
[20:58] <wilee-nilee> dr_willis, What's that sonny let me turn up my hearing aid. ;)
[20:59] <donofrio> lysek, dunno sorry.....sounds like notebook eh?
[20:59] <slackguru> wilee-nilee, it seems as though we are talking about package issues that effect 12.04 and 12.10?
[20:59] <lysek> Tech-1: i installed kubuntu-desktop on ubuntu 12.10
[20:59] <lysek> donofrio: yes lenovo
[21:00] <wilee-nilee> slackguru, I know was just giving you a heads up that the channel is basically for stock setups is all, I don't really care other then that you are informed. ;)
[21:01] <rau> Hi all, I'm having some mouse problems with ubuntu on a latitude xt2.
[21:01] <lysek> pizzalover101: tell me when you figure it out
[21:01] <bin_bash> !ask | rau
[21:01] <BeiFong> !ask >rau
[21:02] <pizzalover101> lysek: I'm updating my drivers right now, if that works after the restart I'll tell you
[21:02] <bin_bash> BeiFong, please avoid using the private message function, as it's rude.
[21:02] <dr_willis> rau:  give us details as to whats going on.
[21:02] <BeiFong> !ask >bin_bash
[21:02] <bin_bash> BeiFong, Please don't do that
[21:02] <BeiFong> okay. :(
[21:03] <wilee-nilee> bin_bash, That is incorrect it clears the channel from multiple lines the bot gives.
[21:03] <bin_bash> Fortunately for me, I have ubottu on ignore
[21:03] <rau> My mouse works fin in menus, and I can make selection boxes, but I can't click on icons or any buttons in the file explorer
[21:03] <tubaguy50035> Has anyone heard if Ondrej will update his PPA for PHP?  https://launchpad.net/~ondrej/+archive/php5
[21:03] <dr_willis> File Explorer?  you mean the Nautilus File manager? rau ?
[21:04] <wilee-nilee> tubaguy50035, ASk them.
[21:04] <rau> Yes, Nautilus file manager.
[21:04] <dr_willis> rau:  but the things like the close button and launncher icons and so forth work?
[21:05] <slackguru> wilee-nilee, my install of LTS is stock, and I am being told by a source package that I need to work with that my stock automake is too old. Now is this 12.04.1 LTS or not?
[21:05] <dr_willis> but not buttons in the app?
[21:05] <wilee-nilee> tubaguy50035, Hehe and do you use a 3 or 4 valve.
[21:05] <rau> Other buttons seem to work fine, as far as I can tell
[21:05] <magic_al> hi is anyone familiar with testdisk? i am up to recover some files. i ve already found them and started the recovery. now its quoted in red "copying, please wait....". but the folder i chose in order to save the recovered files keeps empty. i am concerned that something went wrong.... or does testdisk just save them temporary anywhere else?
[21:05] <tubaguy50035> wilee-nilee, I have no idea what you're talking about with valves.  And who is them?
[21:06] <dr_willis> rau:  clean install? or upgrade? what version of ubuntu? has it ever worked fine?
[21:06] <wilee-nilee> slackguru, Cool the original description sounded like you were installing a 12.10 package in 12.04. Honestly I think you should ask what you want. ;)
[21:06] <rau> Clean install, just tried 12.04 now 12.10. I've never installed Ubuntu on this comp before.
[21:06] <dr_willis> rau:  normal usb mouse? or touchpad?
[21:07] <wilee-nilee> tubaguy50035, I would assume you play the TUBA with that nick, the valves are what you use to play it, and with a tuba and many valved instruments you can have 4 instead of 3 valves. I'm a musician. :)
[21:07] <bin_bash> slackguru, can you change your nick? that doesn't belong to you
[21:07] <rau> touchpad, as far as I can tell Synaptics touchpas driver is right, Stylus and touchscreen work fine, just the touchpas and buttons above them that don't work
[21:07] <bin_bash> oh wait
[21:07] <pizzalover101> lysek: didn't work :/
[21:07] <bin_bash> wrong nick
[21:08] <slackguru> I need a newer version of automake wilee-nilee in order to compile the latest version of parted. I plan to cross-compile it for another platform, but as it sits right now I can't compile it at all because automake is outdated in precise.
[21:08] <tubaguy50035> wilee-nilee  AH!  YES!  I'm a 4 valve... all the way!
[21:08] <gordonjcp> wilee-nilee: you can have as many valves as you like on a brass instrument
[21:08] <lysek> pizzalover101: ;/ ill tell you when i fix it
[21:08] <bin_bash> slackguru, have you considered installing a better distro :P
[21:08] <gordonjcp> wilee-nilee: it's just a matter of getting a hacksaw and a brazing torch out
[21:08] <wilee-nilee> tubaguy50035, Real Men/Wmen p[lay with 4 valves. ;)
[21:08] <pizzalover101> lysek: Ok, thanks! I'm thinking of doing a fresh install...even though I just did one a little while ago :P
[21:09] <lysek> pizzalover101: me too
[21:09] <gordonjcp> wilee-nilee: as a guitarist, I have to agree with four valves - one EF86, one ECC83 and two EL34s ;-)
[21:09] <tubaguy50035> wilee-nilee, agreed.  Now who should I be asking about the PPA?  Is Ondrej ever on here?
[21:09] <lysek> pizzalover101: if nothing helps thats the only way and than i dont touch nvidia drivers i dont play games on my linux machine anyways
[21:10] <pizzalover101> lysek: the only game I play is minecraft, and java doesn't wanna work anyway
[21:10] <wilee-nilee> and real bassplayes play fretless lol
[21:10] <wilee-nilee> bass players*
[21:10] <rau> I don't even think I own a usb mouse. I could look around for one. Just touchpad not working so far though
[21:10] <lysek> pizzalover101: editing xorg.conf may work im looking into it now, adding new modes manually
[21:10] <gordonjcp> wilee-nilee: real bass players have hugely overdeveloped right thumbs
[21:10] <wilee-nilee> lol
[21:10] <pizzalover101> lysek: ok, tell me if it does
[21:10] <gordonjcp> wilee-nilee: we're !ot though
[21:11] <wilee-nilee> and ego's
[21:11] <slackguru> bin_bash, if I were working in another distro I wouldn't be having this problem and I would be coming here to find out what is going on with the LTS of ubuntu
[21:11] <gordonjcp> wilee-nilee: what's the difference between a drummer and a drum machine? You only need to punch the rhythm into the drum machine once.
[21:11] <wilee-nilee> lol
[21:11] <NuSuey> hell.. there is still a problem with 6850 in ubuntu 12.10? :/ meh.. always when I activate the ati driver, the OS goes to .. shits
[21:12] <bin_bash> slackguru, install slack :P
[21:12] <NuSuey> :(
[21:12] <NuSuey> anybody with ati 6850 perhabs? would love to use ubuntu :/
[21:13] <wilee-nilee> bin_bash, You going to just proselytize or actually help anyone.
[21:13] <photon> Hello. I want to compare the content of two directories with find and (if it's the right tool for the job) with diff. My plan is to cd to the first dir and use something like `find . -type f -print0 | xargs -0 diff {} /otherdir/{}, but that does not work. Any help? Please be careful, the file names do contain spaces and other weird characters.
[21:14] <charas> I installed wordpress with nginx. I need Postfix to send emails. Which is the easiest way to install and configure it. It shows far too many options.
[21:14] <Fer__> hello
[21:14] <Fer__> ;D
[21:15] <dshea_> photon: are you looking to compare filenames or file contents?
[21:16] <photon> dshea: file contents.
[21:16] <SuperMiguel> Im trying to install ubuntu using software raid, raid 0 for / and raid 1 for /boot... I created all arrays with mdadm and installed it.. the installation finished, when when i reboot i just takes me to a BusyBox screen
[21:17] <dshea_> photon: because you could just dump md5sums of one dir into a temp file and then compare md5sums in the second, might take a bit though if there's lots of files
[21:17] <valnour> photon: diff -rq directory1 directory2
[21:17] <photon> dshea: yeah, but that is just a waste of resources IMHO, if I can compare them side by side.
[21:18] <photon> valnour: already did this, diff has some weird bugs with Unicode characters in file names and symlinks, so I want to spoon feed it the file names it should compare, that's the reason for the find.
[21:18] <valnour> photon: I see
[21:18] <wilee-nilee> NuSuey, Boot a cd and see if it runs.
[21:19] <rau> Does anyone know why a touchpad and mouse would work everywhere except when trying to click on nautilus icons?
[21:19] <NuSuey> wilee-nilee: well that runs.. i can install it, but whenever i try to install the ati video drivers (with the sources - thing) .. and reboot .. it goes to .. hell.. wont boot or no unity & nothing on screen..
[21:20] <wobbly> photon:  couldn't you do something like a for each in `ls /dir1` do diff /dir2/$each | less; done
[21:21] <wobbly> using ':q" in less to cycle through each file
[21:21] <wobbly> ':q'
[21:22] <Jordan_U> photon: What diff command did you run that had problems with filenames or symlinks? What problems (can you pastebin the problematic output)?
[21:23] <wilee-nilee> NuSuey, I see problems with that on google have you tried a thread at the ubuntu forums
[21:23] <NuSuey> nothing about my graphic card :X
[21:23] <NuSuey> had the problem before
[21:24] <NuSuey> :/
[21:24] <mirak> hi
[21:24] <mirak> do i need to reboot the host machine on a special kernel to use xen ?
[21:25] <photon> Jordan_U: diff -qr /dir1 /dir2 ... I already closed the terminal, but I remember that there were two files, FileA and FileB, both had Unicode characters in them, and it was trying to compare FileA with FileB and vice versa, even though they had different file names. Then it complained about them being not the same (of course...).
[21:25] <wilee-nilee> NuSuey, I suspect a PPA might be out there with something for you but I'm not real up on graphic drivers, I have yet to have to mess with them.'
[21:26] <photon> Jordan_U: it should have compared FileA with FileA and fileB with fileB
[21:27] <photon> Jordan_U: like it did for the hundreds of other files in those folders, without problems.
[21:27] <Jordan_U> photon: That's very surprising given how core of a utility diff is, and how thoroughly it's tested.
[21:27] <dshea_> photon: the file sets are identical? (just checking)
[21:27] <photon> dshea_: yes
[21:27] <photon> Jordan_U: I thought so myself.
[21:27] <JimmyNeutron> trism, Thanks! Let me try that out.
[21:28] <Jordan_U> photon: Can you give steps to reproduce this problem?
[21:28] <photon> Jordan_U: trying right now, please give me a min.
[21:28] <NuSuey> wilee-nilee: what is a ppa?
[21:29] <sazawal> The minimode plugin in exaile 0.3.2.2 cannot remember its position and moves back to top left corner. I have just upgraded to Ubuntu 12.10 and the problem started. There is something I can do in the plugin script at /usr/share/exaile/plugins/minimode. Help
[21:30] <wilee-nilee> NuSuey, this gives a outline. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas
[21:31] <wilee-nilee> NuSuey, THey are basically 3rd party repos for situations just like yours.
[21:31] <dshea_> photon: I just tried with some UTF-8 files (jp) and diff -qr seems ok (LANG=en_US.UTF-8) wondering if LANG setting is set?
[21:31] <BeiFong> sazawal, report bugs here https://bugs.launchpad.net/exaile/+bugs
[21:31] <wilee-nilee> there are a ton of them figuratively NuSuey
[21:31] <NuSuey> wilee-nilee: for the card..you mean?
[21:32] <photon> dshea: yes, it's set to "en_US.UTF-8"
[21:32] <satch5150> hi all, trying to set up samba on a ubuntu server vmguest - trying to set up a guest account w/rw for all - no matter what I do I can't seem to get write permissions working   - selinux is not on and I turned off apparmor thinking that my be the culprit, it's not - I've done all the config settings that I know of, like making sure read-only is No, guest ok = yes - permissionss on the share are 777 - can someone offer some suggestions ?
[21:32] <wilee-nilee> NuSuey, Basically for tweaked apps that are past release to a specific release and drivers etc.
[21:33] <Mrokii> Can I stop Windows from going fullscreen when pulling them too far up on screen?
[21:33] <wilee-nilee> NuSuey, There are a handful of reasons a person might start a PPA, I think basically that a app is not working or can be improved among other reasons.
[21:34] <magic_al> how can i find out if a process crashed and just dosnt respond anymore?
[21:34] <NuSuey> wilee-nilee: oh, misunderstood you :) but ..stil..cant use the ati drivers for the video
[21:34] <NuSuey> card
[21:34] <NuSuey> just the default
[21:34] <wilee-nilee> Mrokii, If you use a light touch yes, you can see the outline of the enlarged screen don't push till you see that.
[21:34] <dshea_> magic_al: strace -p <pid>
[21:35] <sazawal> BeiFong, ok
[21:35] <magic_al> dshea, and where do i get the pid? :)
[21:35] <dshea_> should show you what's going on (i.e. - what sys calls it is making, if any)
[21:35] <wilee-nilee> NuSuey, What I was trying to do is pass on the options you might have but have not tried or realized. You have given little or no real info that will get you here as of now.
[21:35] <dshea_> magic_al: ah sorry, ps will give you process details
[21:35] <BeiFong> magic_al, ps -A
[21:36] <wilee-nilee> help*
[21:36] <Mrokii> wilee-nilee: I was rather thinking about turning it off completely.
[21:36] <dshea_> ps -ef | grep someprocessname
[21:36] <dshea_> pgrep someprocessname
[21:36] <arronhunt> Hey guys. How do I change a current user's privileges to admin?
[21:36] <jpds> arronhunt: sudo adduser $USERNAME sudo
[21:36] <wilee-nilee> Mrokii, Might be a control in ccsm not sure really, it is part of the unity desktop.
[21:37] <arronhunt> jpds won't adduser create a new user?
[21:37] <jpds> arronhunt: No.
[21:37] <arronhunt> jpds cool :)
[21:37] <Mrokii> wilee-nilee: I already turned off the snapping windows there, thought that would switch off that other annoyance as well. I'll see if there is more.
[21:37] <NuSuey> wilee-nilee: yeah, cause im not amused that i needed to reinstall ubuntu like 5 times, since.. everytime i'll try to use the ati driver (with the sources thingie) .. it wont load unity and nothing on the boot  or i get a black screen
[21:38] <jpds> arronhunt: When the username has a group after it, it ADDs the USER to a group. ;-)
[21:38] <meiji11> hey. I'm having some trouble using gnu screen in terminal.
[21:38] <meiji11> ctrl-a _ does nothing.
[21:38] <meiji11> like when I try to create a new window with ctrl-a c, switch to screen 1 with ctrl-a 1, etc.
[21:38] <meiji11> I'm using unity.
[21:38] <gordonjcp> meiji11: what do you expect it to do?
[21:39] <dshea_> meiji11: do you have a screenrc overwriting the defaults?
[21:39] <wilee-nilee> NuSuey, It is a matter of using the right tools and knowledge of what is available in this distro, I have the feeling you are a new open source user.
[21:39] <gordonjcp> NuSuey: ATI isn't very well supported
[21:39] <meiji11> dshea_: the only thing I have in my .screenrc is term eterm-color
[21:39] <wilee-nilee> nothing wrong with that if this is the case. NuSuey
[21:39] <gordonjcp> NuSuey: either go with Intel or NVidia
[21:39] <NuSuey> wilee-nilee: i somehow could do it on the previous ubuntu release..
[21:40] <dr_willis> meiji11:  some times the gnome-terminal app or other terminal apps grab the key bindings befor screen does.
[21:40] <Praxi> I just had my new employee install ubuntu 12.10 just to see how he did.  of course the graphics are corrupted right ou tof install.  Its using around 1/2 the screen.  We did let it download updates and use 3rd party proprietary stuff
[21:40] <wilee-nilee> NuSuey, I think as gordonjcp suggests the support is nominal, and I believe even less now from what I have seen on this channel.
[21:40] <meiji11> dr_willis, yes, I suspected as much. I'm not sure where to go in unity to reset that?
[21:40] <meiji11> dr_willis, also, ctrl-a works fine in emacs, so.. I suppose it's only in terminal.
[21:41] <wilee-nilee> that is where a PPA comes in
[21:41] <dr_willis> meiji11:  the default screen setup/unity stuff here seems to work with ctrl-a-1 and so forth,
[21:41] <NuSuey> wilee-nilee: well i have no intention to buy another graphics card
[21:41] <wilee-nilee> NuSuey, If you had 12.04 running I would use it, the support is 5 years longer then 12.10.
[21:41] <daviddoria> when I change my Display settings, I can get them to how I want them and it works perfectly. However, even after clicking save as default->save as default, when I reboot the settings revert to the original (incorrect) settings. Is there a different way to save the settings?
[21:42] <wilee-nilee> years;*
[21:42] <viniciusarq> hey i have a stupid doubt... i'm having a problem that startx doesnt start, in log it says that it fails to load vesa and fbdev... if i have installed openchrome do i need these two modules?
[21:42] <meiji11> dr_willis, it doesn't work in either terminal or terminator.. ctrl-a doesn't appear to be bound to anything in either of those applications
[21:42] <dr_willis> meiji11:  gnome-terminal works here for me.
[21:44] <dr_willis> meiji11:  so does terminator
[21:44] <NuSuey> wilee-nilee: well i guess so :( meh too bad.. need to have the ati driver, and i saw that even the manual install isnt supported on the 12.10 right?
[21:44] <meiji11> dr_willis: gnome-terminal works, terminator does not.
[21:44] <dr_willis> my .screenrc is empty
[21:44] <dr_willis> meiji11:  i noticed i couldent have screen loaded in both gnome-terminal and terminator at the same time.. which seems odd...
[21:44] <dshea_> dr_willis/meiji11: I can confirm it is working for me as well in 12.04/unity, using it right now, perhaps x mappings are set to grab the ctrl-a?  What happens when you do a ctrl-a meiji11, nothing at all?
[21:44] <wilee-nilee> NuSuey, Manual meaning a text instal?
[21:45] <NuSuey> sec
[21:45] <meiji11> dshea_: nothing at all in terminator, in gnome-terminal, screen works as expected
[21:45] <meiji11> dshea_: so weird, I could've sworn it wasn't working, before.
[21:45] <dr_willis> try closeing the gnome-terminal and terminator. then just open terminator.
[21:45] <dr_willis> terminator uses gnome-terminal ;) so thats.. weird..
[21:46] <wilee-nilee> NuSuey, The problem here is with the manufactures in the end, whether they support open source.
[21:48] <daviddoria> I have a drive mounted to /media/MyDrive . When I try to mkdir mydir, I get permission denied. However, 'sudo mkdir mydir' works fine. The drive has been automounted (Ubuntu 12.10). How would i give myself permission to write to this directory normally?
[21:48] <dr_willis> daviddoria:  what filesystem is the drive?
[21:48] <wilee-nilee> !doubleposting
[21:48] <photon> Jordan_U: that's extremely weird. I can reproduce the problem with my own set of files, but if I copy those two folders to a different location on the same disk it works without a single glitch.
[21:48] <daviddoria> dr_willis, ext4
[21:48] <NuSuey> wilee-nilee: "Installing Catalyst Manually (from AMD/ATI's site) CURRENTLY UNSUPPORTED.The latest version of Catalyst offered on AMD's website is Catalyst 12-9 beta. This version does not support Xserver 1.13 and it will not work on Ubuntu Quantal/12.10 because Quantal uses Xserver 1.13. Instead, use the fglrx package found in Ubuntu's repository, which is patched to work with Xserver 1.13."
[21:48] <Jordan_U> photon: Maybe filesystem corruption? Try running fsck.
[21:49] <NuSuey> from http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Quantal_Installation_Guide
[21:49] <wilee-nilee> daviddoria, It is frowned upon to use several channels for help at the same time.
[21:49] <photon> Jordan_U: I will.
[21:49] <dr_willis> daviddoria:  then you need to use chown/chmod to set the permissions  and ownership of the filed and directories
[21:49] <daviddoria> wilee-nilee, they suggested I ask here in ##linux
[21:49] <photon> Jordan_U: even weirder is, if I copy the two working directories back to the old location (which I have deleted before that), the problem comes up again.
[21:50] <daviddoria> dr_willis, so I can chmod on /media/MyDrive directly?
[21:50] <Jordan_U> photon: Though it might also be you misinterpreting the output you're seeing. Even with the best of us, when someone thinks that a core utility has a bug it's usually simply a misunderstanding on their end.
[21:50] <wilee-nilee> daviddoria, Ah, my bad I missed that, my apology. ;)
[21:50] <dr_willis> daviddoria:  if its ext4 its same as any other linux filesystem
[21:50] <dshea_> daviddoria: ls -ld will show you what is currently set, chown will change ownership, chmod will change permissions.
[21:50] <dshea_> daviddoria: you will need to sudo since it seems to be root owned
[21:50] <sarrous> hi all is there a way to see all connected pc's on my network?
[21:51] <dshea_> daviddoria: sudo chmod 777 /media/MyDrive would make it world read/write
[21:51] <SolarisB1y> sarrous: you can use nmap
[21:52] <SolarisB1y> nmap -sT 192.168.1.0/24 for example would scan the network or maybe you just want -sP which i believe is a simple ping scan
[21:52] <wilee-nilee> NuSuey, And that suggestion is where you are having problems I assume. The web info I saw when looking seemed to suggest something like that. Honestly I would just use 12.04 there is hardly any difference then 12.10, other then some false street cred. ;)
[21:52] <pepee> ugh, http://linux.slashdot.org/story/12/10/24/1848203/ext4-data-corruption-bug-hits-linux-kernel
[21:52] <SolarisB1y> sarrous: ^ nmap
[21:52] <beni_7_bitirdi> hii
[21:52] <pepee> I have both kernels... going back to 3.5.0-17
[21:52] <pepee> both = 3.5.0-18 from proposed  and 3.6.3 from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.6.3-quantal/, both have the bug
[21:52] <photon> Jordan_U: sure, but please look at this: http://pastebin.com/BMLxubi8 ... it shouldn't compare files which have different file names.
[21:52] <daviddoria> ok, that did it, I didn't realize I could just do that on the whole drive
[21:52] <sarrous> solarisbly : thanks
[21:52] <SolarisB1y> sarrous: sure
[21:53] <NuSuey> wilee-nilee: guess i'll do that
[21:53] <dshea_> daviddoria: sudo chown user:group /media/MyDrive would change ownership to the user/group you want to own the directory you can add a -R to change all files recursively
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> pepee: then report the bug
[21:53] <photon> Jordan_U: those are phonetic symbols, standard Unicode.
[21:53] <pepee> ActionParsnip, already reported:  http://linux.slashdot.org/story/12/10/24/1848203/ext4-data-corruption-bug-hits-linux-kernel   https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/10/23/690
[21:53] <dshea_> daviddoria: man chown or man chmod will also list examples
[21:54] <pepee> ActionParsnip, or, do you mean to ubuntu developers?
[21:54] <dr_willis> !permissions
[21:54] <photon> Jordan_U: however, copying those two dirs to a different location and the problem vanishes.
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> pepee: report it on launchpad against the ubuntu kernel
[21:54] <daviddoria> dshea_, and then if i take this drive and put it in another machine, what happens? Is it still just tied to the user name? Like if I have an account with the same name on that machine, will I still have access?
[21:54] <dshea_> dr_willis: thx, forgot about the bot
[21:54] <dr_willis> dshea_:  but the bot never forgets about you..... ;P
[21:55] <dr_willis> daviddoria:  yes. the permissions will be goofed up. ;)
[21:55] <dr_willis> daviddoria:  its not the 'name' its the uid/gid numbers that matter.
[21:55] <dshea_> daviddoria: iirc, if the uid's match you should be ok, but if they do not match, then there will be issues
[21:55] <dr_willis> first user is uid/gid 1001 i belive.
[21:55] <daviddoria> I see. I guess that is what happened here
[21:56] <dshea_> daviddoria: we're currently migrating a few hundred folks off NIS to LDAP, so we feel your pain. :)
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> 1000 is first user. Run: id   and you'll see
[21:57] <ezrafree> hello
[21:57] <alone> anyone can test for me a bash script that I did ? It needs streamer (sudo apt-get install streamer). Require laptop + webcam :p
[21:57] <dshea_> actually interesting, I think those other guys with the red hat as start at 500 or 501, need to make a mental note of that
[21:58] <dr_willis> dshea_:  yea. i rember redhat starting at a differnt #.
[21:58] <ezrafree> i have installed Ubuntu 12.10 into virtualbox, and I've installed the guest additions through apt-get, but still i can't get into fullscreen mode without the black on either side (i can't reach a decent screen resolution, that is)
[21:58] <ezrafree> any ideas?
[21:59] <photon> Jordan_U: any idea?
[21:59] <dshea_> dr_willis: yeah I was working in a RHEL shop and just moved over to uni and we're 12.04 across the board, my life has been interesting the past few months :)
[21:59] <wilee-nilee> ezrafree, did you logout y=then back in?
[22:00] <wilee-nilee> then*
[22:00] <ezrafree> wilee-nilee: yes, actually i did "restart" from the menu in ubuntu guest
[22:00] <ezrafree> i'm on a win7 host, if that matters
[22:01] <wilee-nilee> ezrafree, There is a drop down in the vm that shows options that are made available with the guest additions, are they all working?
[22:02] <ezrafree> wilee-nilee: do you mean the "Devices" and "View" menus?
[22:02] <wilee-nilee> ezrafree, view
[22:02] <ezrafree> wilee-nilee: under view, there's one option that's greyed out/disabled
[22:03] <ezrafree> "Auto-resize Guest Display" and "Switch to Seamless Mode" are both disabled, actually
[22:03] <wilee-nilee> ezrafree, Sounds like the guest additions did not finish correctly, did you read the text when installing?
[22:04] <schultza> how do i find what program is listening on a port?
[22:05] <dshea_> schultza: netstat -nalp
[22:05] <ezrafree> wilee-nilee: i ran the command "sudo apt-get install virtualbox-guest-additions" with no errors or warnings
[22:05] <Jordan_U> photon: What filesysetem are you using?
[22:05] <photon> Jordan_U: ext4
[22:06] <SolarisB1y> ezrafree: did you try the method provided by vbox to install/upgrade additions?
[22:06] <schultza> no no ... the program.. this doenst show the program for that one port
[22:06] <Jordan_U> photon: Just as an experiment, see what "gid diff ./IPA/ /mnt/ext/IPA/" reports.
[22:06] <ezrafree> SolarisB1y: yes, i'd tried that previously but i always got the error that it couldn't find my X Window System
[22:07] <SolarisB1y> ezrafree: do you have the dev packages installed?
[22:07] <dshea_> schultza: -p gives the pid/program in the output
[22:07] <SolarisB1y> x11 dev stuff
[22:07] <wilee-nilee> ezrafree, It has been awhile since I loaded a linux setup in vbox I use the gui though not the terminal, I would ask in the #vbox channel.
[22:07] <schultza> tcp - ... thats all it says
[22:07] <ezrafree> SolarisB1y: ah no i don't think i do have the dev for x11 stuff... would that just be "apt-get install x11-dev" or what?
[22:08] <SolarisB1y> i've seen that be the case in the past - yes somewhat im not sure exactly the names of the dev packages you need
[22:08] <SolarisB1y> i know a couple of how to's specifically point out the deps for older versions though
[22:08] <dshea_> schultza: tcp is under pro to column, the far right column labeled PID/Program should list something, if not, you could try checking lsof output
[22:08] <schultza> "-"
[22:08] <schultza> whats the program that will output to pastebin?
[22:09] <schultza> oh-doh... pastebinit
[22:09] <wilee-nilee> ezrafree, I think that caommand you used is incorrect as you are trying to load the guest additions that are in a ISO in the vbox.
[22:09] <dshea_> schultza: if the port is in state LISTEN, you can lsof -i | grep <portnumber>
[22:09] <schultza> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1303726/ ..... looking at port 80
[22:09] <SolarisB1y> that command would probably pull some old version of guest additions from somewhere and install it - but it is likely better to mount the iso via virtualbox and manually run the installer
[22:09] <gramm> 
[22:10] <schultza> telenting into it.. reports apache 2. yet i have that unisntalled with a purge
[22:10] <dshea_> schultza: lsof -i | grep 80
[22:10] <SolarisB1y> that gets updated each time vbox updates @the guest_additions.iso
[22:10] <dshea_> given it is port 80 I'm guessing apache2 or nginx, something serving httpd
[22:10] <ezrafree> wilee-nilee, i'd previously tried mounting guest additions through the Devices menu and then running "sudo ./VBoxLinux.run install" or whatever but that was when i'd get the "couldn't find X Window" error, so i'll try again after these dev packages for xserver-xorg install
[22:10] <viniciusarq> hey guys! why does startx only works with root?
[22:11] <SolarisB1y> ezrafree: sounds good
[22:11] <schultza> lsof is not reporting port 80.. .that's odd
[22:11] <dshea_> schultza: service apache2 stop
[22:11] <k1l_> viniciusarq: you shouldtn use startx
[22:11] <dshea_> sorry *status first
[22:11] <k1l_> viniciusarq: start the lightdm and that starts all the xserver stuff for you
[22:11] <Jordan_U> photon: Try fsck, if that doesn't change anything then please file a bug report.
[22:11] <wilee-nilee> viniciusarq, something is wrong then you would not run startx from root
[22:11] <huggy-bear> viniciusarq: startx should work with the normal user if your display manager is closed.
[22:11] <viniciusarq> k1l_, if it works... it keeps getting me back to session manager
[22:11] <schultza> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1303736/
[22:11] <photon> Jordan_U: bash: /usr/bin/gid: No such file or directory ... after installing id-utils (which were recommended), gid reports: gid: invalid option -- 'q' ... what's this gid command supposed to do?
[22:12] <dshea_> schultza: looks like apache2 was running
[22:12] <k1l_> viniciusarq: with root startx you will break alot of the rightssystem stuff
[22:12] <dshea_> schultza: you said you removed it earlier?
[22:12] <schultza> how can it... it should be completely uninstalled ( according to apt-get )
[22:12] <SolarisB1y> ezrafree: hrmm seems there s this also ... virtualbox-guest-x11 as a debian package in repo's
[22:12] <k1l_> viniciusarq: you should look out for the errormessage in the logs when starting logging in from lightdm
[22:13] <Jordan_U> photon: I have no idea.
[22:13] <SolarisB1y> ezrafree: got that from here http://ksearch.wordpress.com/2012/10/22/error-while-installing-vbox-guest-additions-in-ubuntu-12-10-quantal-quetzal/
[22:13] <schultza> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1303739/ ( apt-get's report that apache2 is removed )
[22:13] <viniciusarq> k1l_, when i try to startx in my user it gets me to a black screen
[22:13] <RobbyF> finally got nvidia drivers install on 12.10
[22:13] <photon> Jordan_U: you are recommending running a program that you have no idea of?
[22:13] <viniciusarq> k1l_, and if i get back to tty it keeps showing No protocol specified
[22:13] <k1l_> viniciusarq: which part of "dont use startx" didnt you understand?
[22:14] <Jordan_U> photon: Sorry, that should have been "git diff ./IPA/ /mnt/ext/IPA/".
[22:15] <viniciusarq> k1l_, what do i have to search in lightdm log?
[22:15] <dshea_> schultza: hmmm…that is odd…wondering if it failed to shut down the existing process when you did apt-get remove on it
[22:15] <schultza> so.. install it again.. .service stop it.. and then purge?
[22:16] <k1l_> viniciusarq: try syslog and .xsession-errors in your home after trying to login through the lightdm
[22:16] <jason__> does ubuntu come with python installed as default?
[22:16] <glebihan> jason__, yes
[22:17] <jason__> thannks again
[22:17] <schultza> viniciusarq, who owns .Xauthority in your /home/user directory
[22:18] <k1l_> schultza: yep, i think that could be a cause after fiddeling with root
[22:18] <viniciusarq> schultza, how do i check that?
[22:18] <schultza> ouch... chown that file to the user and then lightdm in the user to get it up
[22:18] <dshea_> what does it tell you if you try 'apt-get remove apache2'
[22:18] <schultza> ls -al .Xauthority
[22:18] <XMLnewbi> what phpadmin should I download for ubuntu 12.04            tar.bz         or tar.gz        or tar.xz
[22:19] <XMLnewbi> server
[22:19] <schultza> dshea_, i think it did
[22:19] <zl2tod> XMLnewbi, aptitude install phpmyadmin
[22:19] <viniciusarq> schultza, it seem like root has it
[22:19] <schultza> viniciusarq, you will need to the change the owner of the file... i think it's " chown user:user file "
[22:20] <schultza> then run  " lightdm " from that user (no sudo, no root user)
[22:20] <dshea_> schultza: sorry I forgot to put a sudo in front of my example
[22:20] <viniciusarq> schultza, it says that only root can run lightdm
[22:21] <schultza> oh... on the chown command ... use sudo in front... >>> " sudo chown user:user .Xauthority "
[22:21] <schultza> then try lightdm again
[22:22] <k1l_> to restart lightdm it should be "sudo restart lightdm"
[22:22] <k1l_> since that is a system process
[22:22] <schultza> it is?
[22:23] <viniciusarq> oh my...
[22:23] <ezrafree> SolarisB1y: ah, thanks i will try that as well then
[22:23] <viniciusarq> man... k1l_ and schultza thank you very very much!
[22:24] <schultza> viniciusarq: you are welcome
[22:24] <k1l_> viniciusarq: and for the future. reduce the useage of root/sudo. that caused the problems in this case and will in alot of other cases
[22:24] <yakeb> hi #ubuntu. i just installed the nvidia proprietary drivers on 11.10 and the computer boots to blank screen. i've tried all of the fixes i've seen online and nothing works. i can't load another tty or anything, it's like the monitor is not recognized anymore. any guidance would be appreciated.
[22:25] <willdabeast> how can I see what partition exactly is linked to which OS? I didn't label any of them...
[22:25] <viniciusarq> k1l_, i'm sorry if it seems like but i was kinda desperated already here... i just tryied to run it as root to test it only
[22:25] <dopiwan_> running edubuntu on top of ubuntu server... I notice my video seems a little crazy... icons and fonts sometimes display all "smeared" for lack of a bettter description... I do have a screenshot if needed, anyone know how I can fix this
[22:25] <dopiwan_> http://postimage.org/image/n179g6txr/
[22:25] <wilee-nilee> willdabeast, gparted will show you partitions you just have to know which is which.
[22:25] <wilee-nilee> you can label them with it as well.
[22:26] <ar_help1> Hello.
[22:26] <ar_help1> Any help available at this hour?
[22:26] <willdabeast> yea but what if I am an idiot and do not remember, any way to check like which kernel is on which?
[22:26] <ctwynn> #edubuntu
[22:27] <wilee-nilee> willdabeast, You can't lable a partition you are using from gparted though.
[22:27] <willdabeast> wilee-nilee, I mean I've labeled them before, just given them kernel names so this wouldn't happen again
[22:27] <wilee-nilee> willdabeast, So maybe you can give us the end goal here that might be helpful.
[22:28] <JimmyNeutron> trism, Sorry, I lost your original message due to the scroll buffer.  Which files do I modify to get rid of the hostname from the terminal console that shows the login: prompt?
[22:28] <willdabeast> wilee-nilee, essentially I am trying to get rid of one partition and resize another, I just don't wanna do the wrong ones
[22:29] <ar_help1> Do you guys have knowledge of data recovery?
[22:29] <yakeb> further, i get the normal splash screen on boot, but after that the light on the monitor turns from green to yellow, which I don't quite follow. I can load up a shell prompt but I am getting errors, if I try to edit xorg configuration.
[22:29] <trism> JimmyNeutron: /etc/init/tty?.conf (so tty1.conf, tty2, etc), though it is probably better to just copy the exec line to /etc/init/tty?.override; and add --nohostname to the end
[22:29] <wilee-nilee> willdabeast, Ah so you don't know the partition of the OS that you want to keep?
[22:29] <JimmyNeutron> trism, Ty!
[22:30] <ezrafree> SolarisB1y and wilee-nilee, thanks! installing virtualbox-guest-x11 fixed it
[22:30] <wilee-nilee> ezrafree,  Cool.
[22:30] <willdabeast> wilee-nilee, correct :), as well as the other one I want to resize. I have sda and sdb too (2 HD's)
[22:31] <tom> when i try to download the package for skype linux it tells me it's getting rid of libc-bin. that seems like a mistake. how do i get around it?
[22:31] <willdabeast> wilee-nilee, not that it's important, but it's making it a bit more confusing to me.
[22:31] <wilee-nilee> willdabeast, If you run sudo update-grub it will list the OS, the one you want as I remember has grub control so the one to remove will show it's partition
[22:32] <ar_help1> Does anyone know what happens to /var (on a different partition) when I do a clean install on ubuntu?
[22:32] <nabukadnezar43> hi, i did a minimal xfce install but i can't reboot as a user, what am i missing? i tried gpasswd -a username power but it complained that power group doesn't exist
[22:32] <willdabeast> wilee-nilee, gotcha I'll give it a shot
[22:32] <nabukadnezar43> xfce asks for a password when i hit restart button
[22:33] <tom> i know this is an idiot's question. please just redirect me.
[22:33] <wilee-nilee> willdabeast, Probably easier ways, I just have never been in that situation as I remember anyway, and I only know the commands I use regularly, and google for any not known. ;)
[22:33] <dr_willis> tom:  you downloaded the skype .deb package?
[22:34] <dr_willis> !skype
[22:34] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | wilee-nilee
[22:34] <Jordan_U> wilee-nilee: Sorry, that was for willdabeast.
[22:34] <tom> thank you ubottu. i haven't downloaded the package yet because of that issue.
[22:34] <dr_willis> tom:  theres a skype repository thats reccomended.
[22:35] <RedPenguin> hello all
[22:35] <tom> right in that link that ubottu sent to me?
[22:36] <wilee-nilee> Jordan_U, Thanks I know the bootscript, the user just does not know the partitions and the OS's and wants to remove one, I didn't want to go through the joy of getting them to run that, some users have a bit of a problem there. I also don't remember the pastebin command to just kick it from the repos bootscript, I forgot it, DOH
[22:36] <tom> that is, dr_willis: right in that link that ubottu sent to me?
[22:36] <xibalba> k
[22:36] <wilee-nilee> Jordan_U, Ah and I was typing and not reading the posts.
[22:36] <dr_willis> tom:  2 lines of code to cut/paste and its installed...
[22:37] <RedPenguin> I am trying to set a static IP in 12.04 server and followed the guide from ubuntu.com ifconfig, /etc/resolv.conf, netstat -nr all look good but can't ping even local lan pcs  yet can ssh in yet dhcp ip works fine
[22:37] <tom> ok
[22:38] <wilee-nilee> willdabeast, Follow Jordan_U that be some fine help. ;)
[22:38] <willdabeast> k thanks so what was the command again Jordan_U?
[22:39] <tom> got it, thanks dr willis and ubottu
[22:39] <willdabeast> Jordan_U what was the command? !bootinfo?
[22:40] <willdabeast> Jordan_U !!!111
[22:42] <willdabeast> oh well haha, time to /roll
[22:42] <erle-> what does %u from "firefox %u" mean?
[22:42] <erle-> it makes firefox unable to start
[22:43] <tom> me again. i'm getting Media change: please insert the disc labeled
[22:43] <tom>  'Ubuntu-Studio 11.10 _Oneiric Ocelot_ - Release amd64 (20111011)'
[22:43] <tom> in the drive '/media/cdrom/' and press enter
[22:43] <RedPenguin> according to MozillaSupport if it's %U ut means URL
[22:43] <willdabeast> wilee-nilee, is a swap partition necessary for just 1 OS per HD?
[22:43] <tom> need a workaround
[22:44] <yakeb> nobody?
[22:44] <alone> for ?
[22:45] <wilee-nilee> willdabeast, swap has two basic uses, first if you are running the ram to the limit and second if you want to hibernate, personally I use a swap that builds itself as needed in the OS, I never hibernate.
[22:45] <RedPenguin> supposed to be if you drag a url on to it's shortcut it opens it
[22:46] <Jayflux> is there a way to retain my mount --bind's when i restart the system?
[22:46] <tom> it gives me a variety of web addresses. should i check them all, or what?
[22:47] <nikhil_> has anyone used partition magic to resize a win7 partition and then install *nix this guide (http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/using-gparted-to-resize-your-windows-vista-partition/) says I need a Vista CD on hand to repair the Win7 installation. Is there another way to do it, if, for example, I install Ubuntu onto the newly created partition?
[22:47] <wilee-nilee> willdabeast, I use swapspace it just makes a swap when needed in the OS, I rarely need use of a swap so it works fine for me.
[22:47] <yeehi> I am doing some searches on my file system for a folder - it takes a v long time. Can we index the drive or something like that to speed up searches? It is possible in windows - something like that...
[22:47] <willdabeast> wilee-nilee so you think 2 gb is a solid size? Even though I guess it's based on ram
[22:47] <Mailman> 2GB is solid
[22:48] <willdabeast> k cool
[22:48] <wilee-nilee> willdabeast, That would be correct I only have 2 gigs ram, and the only time it is really used is with virtualbox running.
[22:48] <Mailman> I would get an upgrade on that RAM when you get a chance though.
[22:48] <ar_help1> Can you please help me with a (possible) data recovery issue?
[22:48] <wols_> yeehi: yes. install mlocate
[22:49] <yeehi> thanks wols!
[22:49] <wilee-nilee> willdabeast, generally a swap equal to ram is suggested, unless you have a astronomical amount of ram.
[22:49] <willdabeast> sounds good, yea I definitely don't haha, this thing might as well be a typewriter
[22:49] <Mailman> Well, I have 4gb of RAM and I can already tell that 8gb will be the norm within the next 5 years
[22:50] <MonkeyDust> Mailman  i thought you would say: 6 months
[22:50] <Mailman> Thats probably an accurate time too ^
[22:50] <extropy> why does my USB midi keyboard no longer work in (wine-dependent) LMMS?
[22:50] <extropy> all it'll give me is "Dummy MIDI"
[22:51] <Mailman> Considering "Source Engine SDK" alone wants a minimum of 4gb
[22:51] <arronhunt> how come when I ssh into a server and press the up key, it prints out ^[[A?
[22:51] <yeehi> wols - i installed mlocate - how do I launch it? does it have a gui?
[22:54] <Fishscene> arronhunt: Are you running a command when you press the up arrow key?
[22:55] <arronhunt> Fishscene no.
[22:55] <arronhunt> down prints out ^[[B
[22:56] <arronhunt> Fishscene only on a particular user though. root works fine
[22:57] <Fishscene> arronhunt: So when you have the prompt: "(yourname)@(computer): ~$" And you press the up arrow, you get that?
[22:57] <arronhunt> it just says $ Fishscene
[22:57] <RedPenguin> I made some progress in my static IP issue, turns out I can ping another LAN PC but not the actual gateway/router
[22:58] <Mailman> RedPenguin: run a batch?
[22:58] <Fishscene> Sounds like a custom bash configuration. I just read about this yesterday in a book, so I'm no expert, but you might consider resetting the bash configuration for that user. I have no idea how to do this, so this is just an idea.
[22:58] <arronhunt> Fishscene thats exactly what I thought the problem was. I'm not sure either.
[22:58] <arronhunt> I'll research it
[22:59] <RedPenguin> Mailman: well not running a batch just trying to get Ubuntu Server to work correctly iwth a static IP vs DHCP
[23:01] <zl2tod> arronhunt, what shell are you sshing into ? is it actually bash ?
[23:01] <sihroje> hi
[23:01] <arronhunt> iTerm2
[23:01] <sihroje> selam
[23:01] <sihroje> kimse var mı
[23:02] <sihroje> #istanbul
[23:02] <Mailman> RedPenguin: Ahh, what are you setting up exactly?
[23:02] <ThePub> This should be simple :)  I've installed Ubuntu and added myself to the "optical" group (which owns /dev/sr0) but whenever I insert a DVD it asks me to authenticate.  How do I just let it do its thing and not bother me?
[23:02] <sihroje> türkiye
[23:02] <sihroje> #türkiye
[23:03] <Mailman> #american
[23:03] <Mailman> ;O
[23:03] <sihroje> :=)
[23:03] <sihroje> kürdish
[23:04] <Fishscene> arronhunt: Does "~/.bash_profile" exist?
[23:04] <Fishscene> For that user?
[23:04] <RedPenguin> Mailman: well trying in Server 12.04 to set a static IP in /etc/network/interfaces following the guide at ubuntu.com, and all debug commands look good but can't ping gateway or any WAN stuff, only can ping other internal PCs
[23:04] <wols_> yeehi: no gui. it runs once per day as a cron script (updatedb). then you can use "locate" to look for files
[23:06] <wols_> ThePub: getent group optical
[23:06] <Fishscene> RedPenguin: Are you using VLAN's?
[23:06] <yeehi> ah, thank you, wols - so i imagine it is updating the db now, i will give it some time, then, when it is ready, at the command line do I just type: locate filename.txt or whatever I am looking for?
[23:06] <Mailman> RedPenguin: Well check to make sure you can ping an outside device, and I think 12.10 might help, if 12.04 is breaking on you.
[23:06] <takyon29> hiya]
[23:06] <wols_> RedPenguin: pastebin your interfaces file
[23:06] <wols_> yeehi: run "updatedb" as root
[23:06] <wols_> yeehi: yes. locate <part of a filename>
[23:07] <RedPenguin> wols_: k one sec
[23:07] <RedPenguin> Fishscene: no VLAns
[23:07] <takyon29> so is any body liking the ubuntu 12.10 yet?
[23:07] <Steve27> Hello
[23:07] <Steve27> Does anyone know how can I add a line at every line I have in a text file? Every line starts with localhost .... and I'd like to add UNREAD (on a new line)after every line which contains localhost. Thank you in advance.
[23:07] <yeehi> ok - sudo updatedb went smoothly - nothing seemed to happen...
[23:08] <yeehi> wols - could I do: locate foldername/filename.txt ?
[23:08] <wols_> yeehi: the disk should have been audible. it reads in all filenames
[23:08] <wols_> yeehi: yes
[23:08] <yeehi> you are great wols - i bet this mlocate has been useful for you...
[23:08] <yeehi> my hdd is quite quiet
[23:09] <Mailman> RedPenguin: interfaces file link.
[23:09] <RedPenguin> http://pastebin.com/h9mtNM4r
[23:10] <RedPenguin> that';s the link I just gave
[23:10] <GeorgeTorwell> What is the difference between a ubuntu LTS and non-LTS release? Is it worth upgrading from 12.04 (LTS) to 12.10?
[23:11] <RedPenguin> LTS means more years of support
[23:11] <yeehi> This is my problem: I would like to find the plugins folder for keepass2 that has been installed - i have searched and explored the hits, but there seems to be no plugins folder in any of the keepass folders... where is KeePass installed?
[23:11] <RedPenguin> Long Term Support
[23:11] <GeorgeTorwell> So does that mean 12.10 wont be supported long term?
[23:11] <wols_> yeehi: dpkg -L <packagename>
[23:11] <RedPenguin> but the odd thing is ifconfig, netstat -nr, and resolv.conf file all look the same as when I have DHCP on
[23:11] <GeorgeTorwell> yeehi: usually /usr/bin/keepass
[23:11] <RedPenguin> yet with DHCP it works
[23:11] <Name141> can someone help me remember the ISO -> USB2 stick for windows program ?
[23:11] <compdoc> GeorgeTorwell, if you want to use the same OS without having to upgrade as often, go LTS. If you want the newest software, go 12.10
[23:11] <wols_> RedPenguin: traceroute 8.8.8.8
[23:12] <GeorgeTorwell> But 12.10 will recieve updates and such, right?
[23:12] <RedPenguin> wols_: just dies giving * * * for every hop
[23:12] <wols_> RedPenguin: could be your router doesn't route packages since it not assigned via dhcp
[23:12] <Steve27> Name141: try unetbootin
[23:12] <pepee> GeorgeTorwell, yes. for a couple years
[23:12] <wols_> maybe tell the router to exclude .100 and above from dhcp
[23:12] <Leestons> Name141: A quick google search threw up iso to usb 1.0 ?
[23:12] <Name141> Steve27: there she blows
[23:13] <wols_> Name141: use yumi
[23:13] <Name141> 'yumi' ?
[23:13] <Fishscene> RedPenguin: Why are network and broadcast commented out?
[23:13] <RedPenguin> Fishscene: I did have them not-commented out but figured what if I had them wrong but I didn't think so i tried that also
[23:13] <MrBushido> is there any obvious reason why my mouse moves more slowly over things like browser windows playing a flash video/game, or vlc/game in windowed mode?
[23:14] <RedPenguin> wols_: it should not be blocking cause I had static IP set Windows PCs and Linux PCs already it hgad no issues iwth
[23:14] <MrBushido> im not quite sure if its just lag on the input or if its actually slower movement
[23:14] <Fishscene> RedPenguin: Gotchya. Did you restart your networking? sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[23:15] <Steve27> Sorry, I'm not familiar with mirc. Why I cannot write in other channels? "cannot send to channel" ..
[23:16] <blackness> wow, on 12.10 im having tons of issues.
[23:16] <Fishscene> Steve27: You may have better luck asking in #irc
[23:16] <yeehi> Thank you wols - that dpkg command is great! Thanks GeorgeTorwell -
[23:16] <Steve27> ok, thank you Fishscene
[23:16] <Fishscene> However, if you can't get there, are you sure you have joined the channels you are trying to talk to?
[23:16] <Fishscene> Steve27: I'm assuming it worked?
[23:16] <yeehi> I could see those files, but there seems to be no plugins folder that has been generated, for some reason
[23:16] <blackness> Anyone have issues with audacious on 12.10? it segfaults as soon as it loads.
[23:17] <Steve27> We'll see, I just asked.
[23:18] <Steve27> Oh, I need to register
[23:18] <Fishscene> Steve27, Yes I saw. :)
[23:18] <RedPenguin> Fishscene: I tried that and even rebooting the PC
[23:18] <Fishscene> RedPenguin: The only thing I can think of is in this tutorial: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/change-ubuntu-server-from-dhcp-to-a-static-ip-address/ (Which suggests removing the DHCP package which may be interfering with static IP addresses.
[23:19] <RedPenguin> thanks Fishscene
[23:19] <Fishscene> Read it all the way through, then take action :)
[23:19] <RedPenguin> yea I just thought it was so bizzare cause I have set many Debian and Ubuntu PCs static the same way as this and never had any issue
[23:20] <RedPenguin> only diff was the older versions didn't seem to use "dns name-servers" and you set it manually in resolv.conf
[23:21] <Fishscene> RedPenguin: It's a tricky matter. Most of the time it works, but when it doesn't, it *really* doesn't. I've had the same experience too. lol. Although for me, I was able to tell my DHCP server to always assign a particular IP to that server. So I lucked out.
[23:22] <codezombie> question, how does one upgrade revisions? for example... 10.04.2 to 10.04.4
[23:22] <Steve27> Does anyone know how can I add a line at every line I have in a text file? Every line starts with localhost .... and I'd like to add UNREAD (on a new line)after every line which contains localhost. Thank you in advance. - sorry for repeating myself
[23:22] <codezombie> I've found plenty on how to upgrade releases, but not revisions
[23:23] <XMLnewbi> Im haveing issues with phpmyadmin    I have reinstalled a few times but i keep getting Cannot start session without errors, please check errors given in your PHP and/or webserver log file and configure your PHP installation properly.
[23:24] <pepee> everyone, have you ever receiver a job offer in this or other linux-related channels?
[23:24] <RedPenguin> Fishscene: yea, but my problem is eventually this server will be my DHCP
[23:24] <RedPenguin> lol
[23:24] <Fishscene> Steve27: Not sure if this is what you are looking for, but take a look at this: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/string-manipulation.html
[23:25] <Fishscene> RedPenguin: ROFL! Yea, I'd just double/triple check your name resolution settings. Maybe cut things down to one DNS server for testing, then adding more later (who knows, maybe multiple on one line is causing the problem?)
[23:26] <Steve27> Um...that's how to add a blank line. I would love not a blank one but the word "UNREAD" on that line
[23:26] <Steve27> Thank you anyway
[23:26] <dawne_p> I've got an acer laptop that reboots instead of shutting down.  I installed laptop-mode-tools and it's running, but was I supposed to change a setting somewhere to fix the problem?
[23:27] <RedPenguin> lol trying to remove dhcp-client "virtual packages" can't be removed
[23:28] <Fishscene> loverly
[23:32] <RedPenguin> anybody know what ubuntu-minimal is? (uninstalling isc-dhcp-client wants to uninstall it also)
[23:32] <josy1982_> sound don't works good on my ubuntu 12.10 everytime when i start ubuntu sound is deactivated i have to turn on manually and i have noises what can i do?
[23:32] <jrib> !info ubuntu-minimal | RedPenguin
[23:33] <dawne_p> Or maybe laptop-mode-tools is not the answer.  Why would shutdown (I've done it in the menu and with init 0 form a command line) reboot (init 6) instead?
[23:33] <RedPenguin> oh doesn't sound like a good idea to uninstall then definitely
[23:33] <RedPenguin> but cool bot (never seen one that piped)
[23:34] <soupeee> can't connect to free wifi at McDonalds but CAN connect to secure wifi at home. debug ON, complete wicd session at McDonalds here: http://bpaste.net/show/53392/
[23:35] <dawne_p> soupeee, I've had trouble going from one network to another without a reboot.  Sometimes I'm able disconnect in the new place from the old network, then connect to the new network in the new place.
[23:35] <RedPenguin> soupeee: did you see the login page?
[23:35] <RedPenguin> or accept page I guess
[23:35] <RedPenguin> I know your Internet is "disabled" until you hit accept
[23:36] <synthmesc> is there a way to load a debug kernel that saves logs when problems occur?
[23:37] <synthmesc> example: OS hangs after kernel loads, not sure why, some other process is messed up
[23:39] <iceroot> synthmesc: http://linux.die.net/man/8/netdump  for example
[23:40] <aluno> asfd
[23:40] <aluno> asfkljsa
[23:40] <aluno_> asdasd
[23:40] <aluno> ei doido
[23:40] <aluno> soooooooo
[23:40] <aluno_> disz malucco
[23:41] <aluno> mais oia
[23:41] <synthmesc> iceroot: the kernel loads fine, its some other process that is hanging it up, occurs randomly
[23:41] <aluno_> mar hoia
[23:41] <iceroot> synthmesc: ah ok, thought the kernel itself is the problem
[23:41] <synthmesc> nah
[23:41] <synthmesc> I believe it could be some disk utility or something, but I have no idea really, just a blinking underscore
[23:42] <synthmesc> I'd like to blame X11, but it isn't that
[23:42] <iceroot> synthmesc: sure it isnt x?
[23:42] <iceroot> synthmesc: can you switch to tty1?
[23:42] <synthmesc> and I can't ssh in, because nothing is running
[23:42] <synthmesc> nope
[23:42] <iceroot> synthmesc: hm
[23:42] <synthmesc> can't switch
[23:42] <synthmesc> the keyboard is dead, capslock doesnt turn on the lights, etc.
[23:43] <synthmesc> I could root cause it if I knew how to log all events somehow
[23:43] <aluno> alguem do brasil?
[23:43] <dem0n> hello everyone, i am running ubuntu as my guest os using vmware player and i wanted to setup a vnc server on ubuntu, so i installed tightvnc. Okay so i set a pass and ran the server which is running on port 5901. So i loaded my mini pc my mk802 which is on the same wifi network as my ubuntu box, and i pointed the android vnc server at my private ip address 192.168.1.12 at port 5901 and android vnc just gets stuck at the vnc handshake, does anyone have any ide
[23:43] <soupeee> RedPenguin: what is login page? I guess not.
[23:44] <synthmesc> dem0n: thats a lot to read
[23:44] <ahmad_> hi everyone
[23:44] <BusyBoxes> dem0n: try to using realVNC view
[23:44] <Fishscene> dem0n: Is that the IP address of your ubuntu VM, or the physical computer?
[23:46] <dem0n> Fishscene: that is the ip address of my ubuntu virtual machine, shoudl i being using the ip address of the physical computer?
[23:47] <josy1982_> nice irc no help nothing thank you very much
[23:47] <BusyBoxes> dem0n: make sure your able to communicate with the vm, maybe double check or bridge the connection. Then use realVNC viewer connect (ip:port)
[23:47] <dem0n> for my machine i am using windows 7 as my host operating system and ubuntu and my guest os
[23:47] <BusyBoxes> dem0n: ping 192.168.1.12 in command.com please
[23:48] <Fishscene> dem0n: As BusyBoxes said, make sure your VM network connection is set to bridged mode and not "shared" or "NAT".
[23:49] <dem0n> let me check to make sure i am in bridged mode
[23:50] <compdoc> dem0n, just need to know the ip address of the vm
[23:50] <RedPenguin> soupeee: every time I go to McDonalds it has a page load that is like "Do you accept terms":
[23:50] <RedPenguin> but it turns out my static IP was not Ubuntu's fault
[23:51] <RedPenguin> the Linksys Router appearntly because an old PC used to be static assigned the IP and is no longer on, you had to remove the static assigment for the router to allow this PC to use the same iP
[23:51] <rhagu> hi, how can I check if ubuntu has appropriate driver for a specific device?
[23:51] <BusyBoxes> RedPenguin: hurrr. you sure there's not a lease duration?
[23:52] <soupeee> RedPenguin: my netbook immediately connects, then disconnects. The gui sez: no wireless networks found, but you can see from the log it finds them.
[23:52] <BusyBoxes> Soupeee: Deauthentication broadcasts?
[23:53] <h6w> Hi.  How do I report an ubuntu bug now?   Clicking on "report a bug" on launchpad keeps sending me to a "Bug reporting etiquette" page on ubuntu.com
[23:55] <PatrickDickey> h6w is this the page you get sent to? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs If so, the steps are near the bottom.
[23:55] <trism> h6w: ubuntu-bug package_name; or read the bug reporting page to see other options
[23:56] <h6w> trism: Yeah.  This is an upgrading bug, tho.  So what package would that be?
[23:57] <PatrickDickey> h6w, if it has a window that you can open, use ubuntu-bug -w and pick that window.
[23:58] <PatrickDickey> Also, h6w, do you mean that it's a bug that happens while you're in the upgrade?
[23:58] <reuf> how can i list all of my global vars in bash?
[23:59] <jrib> reuf: maybe you are looking for « env »?
[23:59] <PatrickDickey> reuf printenv