[00:00] I upgraded my test box from 12.04 to 12.10, and now X doesn't display correctly, and the mouse isn't working. I can use command line in a console. [00:00] how do you reconfigure X in 12.10? [00:04] ok, re-installing 12.04 [00:07] n2diy_: you could try -> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg [00:11] wonderworld, I did, that doesn't seem to be an option anymore, looks like that stopped working back with Hardy Heron? [00:11] hmm. maybe [00:12] you could try to find out the new window manager then and dpkg-reconfigure it's package [00:13] wonderworld, lightdm? I looked in its logs, and it showed a failed setup using something-reconfigure.py, and it failed because the file wasn't found. [00:16] n2diy_: maybe this can help -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LightDM [00:16] section: What to do if things go wrong [00:17] i haven't have GUI problems for years, so i can't really help [00:18] wonderworld, done deal now, repartitioning now. I'll look at that for future refrence. I'll wait a couple weeks and download the iso, and try later. It's a test box, so nothing lost, except some time a some new grey hairs. [00:19] i reinstalled as well, because i ran into sound problems after upgrading [00:19] didn't want to debug it [00:19] fresh install runs phantastic [00:20] even a bug i hated got fixed, so i am really happy with 12.10 [00:21] wonderworld, the upgrade went fine, no errors at all, just wouldn't reboot into X. Yea, I'll wait awhile, get the iso, and install locally. [00:22] what is the name of the icon theme that's used in xubuntu 12.10? [00:23] elementary XFCE. https://github.com/shimmerproject/elementary-xfce [00:25] wonderworld: and window theme is greybird - correct? [00:26] unsure, i changed mine from the default [00:36] wonderworld: nice. xfce on arch now looks better. [00:42] may i ask? [00:43] hey may i ask [00:43] ? [01:22] hello, has anyone here had any experience with downloading and installing the android sdk on xubuntu? [01:51] hey may i ask ? [01:54] when i plug headphone jack speakers don't mute === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [02:13] halp [02:13] xubuntu is haxing my system [02:14] loling irl [02:17] IM DOUBLY HAXED [02:17] xubuntu890, paste the error. [02:17] XUBUNTU: WHAT R U DOIN [02:17] XUBUNTU: STAHP! [02:17] !paste | xubuntu890 [02:17] xubuntu890: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [02:25] why +q xubuntu? [02:25] https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/212154 [02:26] PoorCollegeGuy: most likely [02:26] because he's trolling [02:26] any one have any clue whats going on or should I just go back to 12.04.1? [02:26] :P [02:27] Arizona, i figured as much, curiosity killed the cat lol [02:27] xrs1: i've never had a problem connecting mass usb storage before so I can't help answer that :( [02:27] lol [02:28] yeah when the problem first arose, one of the devs thought it was just user error [02:28] 12.04 re-installed, now 323 updates to install. [02:28] thats the nice thing about updates. you can have a failed install repaired [02:29] xrs1, lots of things could be wrong. I somehow managed to install Lubuntu wrong and I had no volume controls at all (even added it and indicators to panel...nothing) [02:29] not relevant to your situation per say, but a testament to how screwy linux installations can be sometimes [02:39] okay i fixed it! [02:40] i deleted the /media/%user% folder and did it again and now its working [02:55] mwahahaha [03:13] hello [03:14] i am installing xubuntu because ubuntu is not great anymore [03:17] lol === ryan_ is now known as unheeding === unheeding is now known as ogg_ === ogg_ is now known as unheeding [05:16] Hi, I just updated to 12.10. The upper panel doesn't auto hide any more (yes, it is ticked). Anyone experienced this? [05:24] ru [05:24] R U? [05:25] how's the install going [05:25] hello, world [05:26] help set up the microphone [05:28] I removed pulseaudio [05:29] my distro xubuntu 12.04 [05:33] !ru [05:33] Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke. === well_laid_lawn is now known as brony === brony is now known as well_laid_lawn === evaldo is now known as Guest56582 [06:18] helllo all....I'm new to the world of ubuntu...but have been using fedora for quite a some time..Here I'm facing problem with the xubuntu 12.10, that I installed today itself [06:19] post installation I restarted the machime and I'm not able to see any display...the screen remains blank [06:20] any help get my display back will be great [06:39] sawrub: you might need to do something with kernel mode setting - kms [06:39] what's the graphics card? [06:39] well_laid_lawn: how do I check it [06:41] experienced linux user here - I check that sort of infoon any new comp I have before installing.... maybe boot into the live cd and check [06:41] s/ifoon/info on/ [06:42] amd radeon [06:42] sawrub: add nomodeset to your boot option or install the proprietary drivers will fix the problem [06:42] proprietary driver = fglrx [06:42] oki...googling [06:43] nice :) [06:45] will I have to install ATI binary X.Org drivers [06:45] sawrub: thats one sollution [06:45] worked for me [06:46] nomodeset its a little bit more complicated [06:46] 0kk ...i searched for ATI in Ubuntu software centre...and there are couple of them to be installed [06:47] just install the fglrx package, the other ones will install automatically [06:47] btw...is ati for amd radeon [06:47] because they are dependencies [06:47] sawrub: yes [06:47] oki [06:47] thanks [06:47] amd have buyd ati :) [06:49] fine the download is ON. let me see. its 119 MB [06:49] yep [06:49] thanks for the help and knowledge [06:51] np [07:03] Good morning. [07:03] h [07:05] hello [07:07] Is this channel less n00btasting that the regular #ubuntu channel [07:09] i noticed that lol [07:09] >tastic [07:09] not tasting [07:12] i think it's because fewer noobs stray from the comfortable confines of ubuntu [07:12] how is unity comfortable [07:12] xubuntu is dead easy [07:13] my first, third, 5th, 6th, 8th, and 10th distros were vanilla ubuntu [07:13] with linux mint, arch, lubuntu, fedora, and xubuntu making up the rest [07:13] xubuntu is dead easy [07:13] i've had almost no problems working my way around xubuntu so far [07:16] I liked XFCE for a while [07:16] I was fondly reminded of gnome2 [07:18] it's really nice [07:19] and my computer runs beautifully on it [07:19] it lagged like hell on linux mint :( [07:20] I have Xubuntu installed on my mom's pent4 dell desktop [07:21] it's slow but meh [07:22] Hmm, my 1,5GHz G4 still runs well. [07:22] the dying HDD is bottlenecking it [07:28] it's not dying [07:28] it's something i think i'm doing [07:28] or cinnamon just doesn't play well with my APU [07:28] I'm... not talking about you === defari is now known as df [07:36] i thought you were [07:37] since i'm the one with the issue and Wizard isn't lol [07:37] no lol i'm talking about my mom's desktop [07:37] I have Xubuntu installed on my mom's pent4 dell desktop [07:37] it's slow but meh [07:37] the dying HDD is bottlenecking it [07:47] :) [07:54] well it had scrolled down passed that when i saw it [07:54] so cool your jets, there's no fire [07:56] hey, another problem that i'm facing on the fresh installation of ubuntu [07:56] system freeze on wifi [07:57] are there any other users facing issues with 'Atheros Communications Inc. AR9485 Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)' [07:58] sawrub: anything in dmesg about it hanging? [07:59] dmesg | tail [07:59] should mention it [08:02] well_laid_lawn : had to hard boot my machine will the logs be still there.. [08:03] maybe [08:03] that's the best I can offer from here [08:10] maybe some output in /var/log/syslog [08:18] sawrub: Yup, check logs :) [08:19] yes..looking into them [08:19] /var/log/syslog is having some info [08:21] Yay, small step for man.. [08:40] was trying to study...them but could not get much..'who -b' gives me the boot time as 2012-10-24 13:19 so here i paste the logs before the present session when i had to hard boot the machine [08:40] http://pastebin.com/2f7C9XEP [08:44] PoorCollegeGuy, https://images.4chan.org/g/src/1351057788783.png [09:11] what is the default font name of xubuntu 12.4? [09:12] Droid Sans [09:12] tbe, it's 12.04 [09:12] This is a really nice font :) [09:13] ew sans [09:14] You use serif fonts? :D [09:14] I use Terminus in the console/terminal and Inconsolata in the GUI [09:15] C64 nostalgy? [09:15] wut [09:15] Monospace font everywhere? [09:15] yup [09:15] fonts , don't you guys have anything better to talk about :p [09:16] like the bugs in 12.10 [09:16] I'm not using Ewbuntu [09:16] when i plug headphone jack speakers don't mute [09:16] who decided to use linux 3.5 which is unstable as hell for the 12.10 release ? :p [09:17] 3.5 is unstable? [09:17] yes imho it is :) [09:17] apm1: maybe you should take it to xubuntu-trolling? [09:17] bin_bash: no it isn't, kenrel did away with the 'even-stable odd-unstable' rule long ago [09:18] kernel [09:18] TheSheep, I'm using 3.4.6 anyway [09:18] TheSheep, well i am not trolling , i was just pissed at 3.5 's unstability compared to 3.2 :) [09:18] apm1: you are [09:18] apm1: stop it [09:19] TheSheep, ok won't bother anyone now :( [09:21] when i plug headphone jack speakers don't mute how i fix this ? [09:21] check your alsa/pulse/jack settngs? [09:22] you may yell at me guys but i have to report an issue with xubuntu 12.04 [09:23] PoorCollegeGuy, are you awake [09:23] on my macbookpro the line in port has a little red glowing all the time [09:24] the solution was to mute the port in alsamixer [09:25] this only happens on *buntus and not debian , thus making it a *buntu specific bug :( [09:25] Mine has the red light all the time too [09:25] it doesnt do anyting [09:25] bin_bash, type alsamixer in a tty [09:26] ...I know how to use alsa lol [09:26] bin_bash, then why don't you turn it off ? [09:26] because idc? [09:26] it doesn't effect me [09:27] And whether the headphone is muted or not the light stays on [09:27] only problem I ever have [09:27] is skype [09:27] fucking. skype. [09:28] !language | bin_bash [09:28] bin_bash: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional. [09:28] bin_bash, well the light turns off on my mac when i mute the headphone port using cli alsa , the gui mixer can't do it [09:28] ...seriously? language warning? [09:28] What GUI mixer? [09:28] Also, it goes off when I mute S/PDIF [09:29] but i like it on [09:29] bin_bash, but it is a bug ? [09:29] no? [09:29] bin_bash: the red light is a IEC958 output, you can disable it with xfce4 mixed, here is a switch for it [09:29] I don't use XFCE [09:30] bin_bash: then we can't help you [09:30] ...I don't need help [09:30] I was just telling apm1 that the light on mine is on too, and that I like it. [09:30] bin_bash: I see, well, that light is audio output for a fiberoptics cable [09:31] TheSheep, i know i can disable it but shouldn't it be off in the first place ? [09:31] apm1: why? [09:31] ^ [09:31] because well on os x it isn't on by default ? [09:31] apm1: xubuntu is not os x [09:31] Wow. [09:32] i know , but how come debian operates the hardware like os x , but not xubuntu ? [09:33] apm1: debian just has different defaults, they probably decided that IEC958 is not open enough [09:33] what is Internet download manger alternative on ubuntu ? [09:33] what is internet download manager? [09:33] joeeeee: all the browsers have a download manager build in these days [09:33] TheSheep, that i can relate to , good explanation :) [09:33] joeeeee, have you tried wget? or curl? [09:34] yes [09:34] i want manger with gui [09:35] joeeeee: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/list-of-download-managers-available-in-ubuntu.html [09:35] joeeeee: first hit in google [09:36] anyone using mutt with gmail ? [09:37] apm1: yeah, you just need to enable it in gmail settings [09:38] TheSheep, does mutt support remembring passwords ? [09:38] apm1: you can put the passwords in the configuration file [09:39] TheSheep, ok thanks :) [09:47] apm1, i use mutt with gmail to send sms from bash) [10:03] You knwo what I don't get [10:04] Why are so many peple like "hurrr you have to compile eveyrhting with arch" [10:06] bin_bash, they don't want to take the time to do that. [10:06] arch is a binary distro there's no compiling needed [10:06] I know [10:06] That's the thing [10:06] in that case, they don't know arch. as i don't seem to know. [10:07] anyway, this discussion clearly belongs to #xubuntu-offtopic [10:07] feel free to continue there [10:09] knome, can I see what your desktop looks like [10:09] Arch is offtopic here. [10:09] Besides, Arch is obsolete, since distros which just work exist. [10:09] Arch works [10:10] >obsolete [10:10] >uses bleeding edge software [10:10] wat [10:10] #xubuntu-offtopic if you want to continue this discussion. otherwise, stop it. [10:11] bin_bash: I'm waiting :P [10:50] hey guys - when i try to edit the menu nothing happens (with alacarte) any suggestions as to why? [10:52] Try harder :P But seriously, run alacarte from terminal and see if it spits errors. [10:53] thmcmahon, alacarte edit applications.menu, but xfce4 use xfce-applications.menu) [10:53] Ah.. [10:53] no errors when i run from the terminal [10:53] :) [10:53] uzver: where do they live [10:54] $HOME/.config/menus [10:54] uzver: yeah it's weird. the buttons just do nothing. things don't move. it's broken basically [10:55] bash> cp ./applcatinos.menu ./xfce-applications.menu [10:55] end edit /usr/share/alacarte/Alacarte/MenuEditor.py [10:57] after that manipulations it's working for me now [10:57] Wouldn't be simpler to link xfce-applications.menu to aplications.menu? [10:58] u can try [11:02] haha ok [11:02] glad to see editing menus is still a problem [11:04] :D [11:04] I think he is right in his sarcasm. [11:08] Hello. Could you please tell me if is it possible to "autoremove" all (now) unneeded dependencies after removing a "leaf package" on console e.g. using apt-get? [11:12] teliti: sure, 'sudo apt-get autoremove' [11:12] The Sheep: aahh ... thank you :-) [11:27] Hello? [11:27] This thing on [11:28] !hi ericmar [11:28] !hi | ericmar [11:28] ericmar: Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay! [11:56] Hi [11:56] Xubuntu is similar to ubuntu. I really don't like the ubuntu interface, x has more of a XP style correct? [11:57] ericmar: lubuntu looks more like windows xp, xubuntu can be made to look like that, but why would you [11:58] I happened to like XP [11:58] Easy [11:58] Intuitive [12:00] ericmar: anyways, it can be made looking like that, so you can try it [12:02] Ok, I will give it a shot [12:36] hello, does anyone here use xubuntu (or similar linux distribution) on hp pavilion 4100sc (or any other laptop with amd e-450/radeon 6320 APU)? I wonder if HW accelartion works smoothly now and also if the battery life is comperable with W7 [12:38] Tom42: I don't have such hardware. [12:40] And wrote it only because I didn't wanted you to feel ignored :( [12:42] Wizard: That's very nice from you :) Well I guess I have to give it a try again... [12:42] You can allways try it yourself. [12:43] Tom42: there is always google :) [12:43] and forums [12:43] Google doesn't help much in such cases. [12:43] Forums may. [12:43] the linlap wiki is also helpful [12:56] hi what does xubuntu use to start programs on boot? [12:56] im trying to install it on another distro [12:57] ubuntu also has a tool to start commands and programs on boot [12:57] grub2 [12:57] vacuous: upstart [12:57] it uses grub2 [12:57] thanks [12:57] i'll look them up [12:57] well, grub2 for booting, then upstart for process management [12:57] yes [12:57] it's basically the same as ubuntu [12:58] trying to run a command saying ''xrand -s screenres' because I'm having difficulties changing res [12:58] and if I just have it execute the command on boot, it should be fine? [12:59] you need a version of grub for botting more than one os, even if you only have one [12:59] vacuous, maybe, I don't know what hardware you got [12:59] it's running in a vm [13:00] vacuous, there used to be a "Safex" command to boot gui when the video card was being unhelpful [13:00] vacuous, then you need to change the vm settings [13:01] :S [13:03] I'm a bit configured [13:03] err [13:03] vacuous, there also pre made vm files for ubuntu versions that you can find online, you could just install vacuous in one of these [13:03] confused even [13:03] think I've been writing configure one too many times D: [13:03] um [13:04] all I want to do is have it change screen resolution on boot or whatever [13:04] everything works fine except that [13:05] vacuous, if you have problems with the vm, then change the vm settings [13:05] I did but it seems to make no difference [13:05] it's still going into 800 res [13:05] *Xfce* [13:06] vacuous, well, you are virtualizing it, does it really matter? [13:06] yes [13:06] I don't want a tiny window to view [13:07] TheSheep, how do I execute upstart? typing upstart doesn't seem to do anything [13:07] vacuous, I think thats a virtualbox problem, not a xubuntu problem [13:07] it's not [13:08] it's not either, let me reiterate- the screen resolution is set wrong [13:08] I cannot change screen resolution [13:08] vacuous, tried to see if virtualbox can make the display bigger? [13:08] xubuntu has a tool which allows you to run commands on boot [13:08] I want that tool [13:08] I can do that fine but I want it to boot with the correct display size [13:09] thus if I can run the command ''xrandr -s 1280x768'' on boot [13:09] all will be fine [13:09] vacuous: you can add it to xsession scripts. [13:09] both xubuntu and ubuntu have this awesome tool for running stuff on boot [13:10] how? [13:13] vacuous, tried to see the settings manager? [13:13] there's no such thing, I'm using debian not xubuntu [13:14] peeps, xubuntu rocks [13:14] trying to mimic my xubuntu install in some ways, without all the bloated crap it includes [13:15] vacuous, sooo [13:15] vacuous, you are virtualizing debian? [13:15] yeah and I just need a way to run that command on boot [13:15] the xrandr command [13:17] what does xrandr do? [13:17] it changes the screen resolution with a command [13:17] ah ok [13:18] vacuous, de aware virtualizing may overhear your computer [13:18] *ovearheat [13:18] lol [13:18] Thats why I prefer dual boot [13:18] *overheat* [13:19] nah it won't [13:19] vacuous: http://askubuntu.com/a/102525/59942 [13:19] it will, virtualbox can overheat your computer using freedos... [13:19] how? [13:19] lol [13:20] basicaly if you dont configure virtualbox well [13:20] koegs, thanks but I don't have that autostart program [13:20] it might overwork youir cpu [13:20] is a know problem [13:20] I'm using debian with openbox [13:21] blackgatonegro: if your machine _can_ overheat its a hardware problem [13:21] I think if I could edit the xinitrc file I could put a command in there but I've forgotten how [13:21] vacuous: this is the support channel for xubuntu, which means "ubuntu with xfce" not "debian with openbox"... -.- [13:21] and nano ~/.xinitrc isn't working [13:21] right [13:21] but I was looking for the program that comes with _xubuntu_ [13:21] thus asking in _xubuntu_ [13:21] to get the name of the program in _xubuntu_ [13:21] torax, is a KNOW problem with visualization [13:21] can you guys quit trolling [13:21] for half a minute [13:22] ok sorry [13:22] vacuous: np, xfce4-settings-manager [13:23] blackgatonegro: even if you run your machine on 100% full time it must not overheat, or else its hardware problem, thats why there is cooling. If theres something to continue then #xubuntu-offtopic [13:24] vacuous: or take a look at ~./config/autostart you will need a .desktop file there [13:25] thanks [13:51] hey all, i installed last night from the mini iso. i need to add a ppa but i cannot because add-apt-repository is not found [13:53] skrite: what version? [13:53] 12.10? [13:53] Isn't it called add-ppa now? [13:53] skrite: install software-properties-common [13:53] it's apt-add-repository [13:54] yep: sudo apt-get install python-software-properties [13:55] Hmm.. Maybe I'm missing the point. [14:00] TheSheep: baizon thanks, gents.. just found that in addition to python-software-properties, i needed a package called software-properties-common, new to 12.10 [14:00] problem solved [14:00] :) [14:10] i cant get flash 11.2 working on xubuntu 12.04.1 any known bugs on that? [14:24] Flash works for me on 12.04.1, but I'm not sure which version is that. [14:26]