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darkxsthttps://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=68683401:53
ubot5Gnome bug 686834 in general "installing alternate software from 'default apps' panel" [Normal,Unconfirmed]01:53
darkxstthough I would ping upstream to see what they think of the idea01:54
darkxstjbicha, just out of interest, do you think I would qualify for ubuntu membership?02:02
TheLordOfTimedarkxst, i'm an ubuntu member, i could help gauge thaqt02:08
TheLordOfTimedarkxst, what's your LP page?02:08
TheLordOfTimeand what're your contributions thus far?02:09
darkxstTheLordOfTime, https://launchpad.net/~darkxst02:10
TheLordOfTimeand also, what're your contributions thus far?02:10
TheLordOfTimeah, you recently joined bugsquad :P02:11
darkxstfix quite a bunch of bugs relating to ubuntu gnome02:11
darkxstgdm, gnome-shell, casper and a few other random ones02:11
TheLordOfTimeany other contributions?02:11
TheLordOfTime:P02:11
darkxstand if it counts gnome-shell extensions02:12
darkxstand some upstream bugfixes as well02:12
* TheLordOfTime greps through the lp profile02:13
TheLordOfTimewell, your bugs work is significant :p02:15
TheLordOfTimei can't speak to the upstream aspect. :P02:15
TheLordOfTimemy contribs that got me my membership were mainly support work on ask ubuntu, but i don't see a reason your membership would be rejected02:15
TheLordOfTimeand you've been here quite a while :P02:16
TheLordOfTimeyou'd get my support from the bugs side of things02:16
TheLordOfTimethere's not much in terms of what you have to do to get membership other than be an active member of the community with sustained contributions02:16
TheLordOfTimein some way shape or form02:16
everaldowhat is a ubuntu membership?02:17
darkxsteveraldo, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership02:18
darkxstTheLordOfTime, would you provide a testimonial for me, (once I fill out my wiki page?)02:20
TheLordOfTimefill out your wiki page and then we'll talk :P02:20
* TheLordOfTime has his own focus atm, creating his wiki page for Per-Package Upload Rights for NGINX02:20
TheLordOfTimethat, and rebuilding TrekWeb's site :P02:21
everaldodarkxst, nice, I think that you deserves  membership02:22
darkxstTheLordOfTime, ok thanks, will get back to you then!02:23
darkxsteveraldo, thanks, might hit you up a testimonial as well, when I am ready!02:23
everaldodarkxst, I am not a member :(02:25
everaldobut if it helps, I can provide a testimonial02:26
TheLordOfTimeeveraldo, you should see my wiki page, a few people who gave me testimonials arent exactly members02:29
everaldothen count with me :)02:29
jbichadarkxst: there's actually 2 ways to become a member, there's also becoming a Ubuntu Contributing Developer02:38
jbichahttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopers#ContribDev02:38
jbichait doesn't provide any upload rights but you'd be judged based on your development contributions (i.e. packaging & bugfixes)02:39
jbichaI don't know if that would be better in your case02:41
darkxstjbicha, yeh right, certainly don't expect to get upload rights yet02:41
darkxstbut I guess most of the stuff I have been doing is definately dev stuff02:41
jbicha"sustained" is generally interpreted as 6 months of activity02:41
darkxstbut can that include upstream gnome stuff?02:42
jbichawhile upstream contributions are generally encouraged as the right thing to do, it's a bit unclear whether that can substitute for working in Ubuntu02:44
jbichaI think several board members want to see "significant and sustained" for Ubuntu02:44
everaldohehe, just added some small changes to iso-build script and now if we define PROXY=something02:50
everaldoit really speed up all process, including debootstrap02:50
everaldojust installed apt-cacher-ng and then02:51
everaldoPROXY=http://localhost:3142 ./livecd-script.sh customize amd64 ./ubuntu-12.10-desktop-amd64.iso02:51
darkxstjbicha, so do you think I should apply or wait a bit more, I guess a lot of my work over the last year was upstream/extensions prior to the birth of UGR02:53
darkxstbut I have been around for 5 years reporting and trying to fix bugs02:54
jbichabased on https://launchpad.net/~darkxst/+related-software alone it looks like you should wait a few more months for Contributing Developer, but you may be ready for regular membership though02:55
jbichayou can also read through the IRC meeting logs to get an idea of which applicants are successful02:56
darkxstlol, thats because gdm took so much *fixing*02:57
darkxstsomething like ~15 bugs for gdm alone ...02:57
jbichafixing *Ubuntu* bugs upstream definitely counts, you just have to explain that to the board members02:58
darkxsthmm I just mean that page would likely have had more packages on it, if gdm hadn't been so broken ;)03:04
jbichaI was speaking about the time aspect, not the quantity or quality03:05
darkxstah ok03:07
TheLordOfTimejbicha, know anything about what is considered for PPU rights after an applicant applies?03:17
TheLordOfTimei.e. what they look for :P03:17
jbichaTheLordOfTime: I don't know as I haven't gone through that process, I have MOTU & ubuntu-desktop rights but the Desktop Team has its own procedure (basically an email and like 3 +1s) instead of PPU03:21
TheLordOfTimejbicha, i asked about PPU because there's a few (different) packages i'm applying for, none which are directly under Desktop Team governance.  It was a general question, was all.03:51
TheLordOfTimenot targetted for any speceific niche03:51
Noteirakhello12:54
smartboyhwHello12:55
NoteirakI've encountered some issues, and after finding nothing on google and in the bug tracker, I was hoping to find something here ,hopefully :)12:55
Noteirakthe first is that I do not have any search provider in the shell, when I type some text. I've tried to add a google.xml in /usr/share/gnome-shell/search-providers & open-search-providers, restart, but no luck12:56
Noteirakalso, in dconf, there are no key reloated to the search providers in org.gnome.shell ...12:57
Noteirakso, am I missing something (i was a new install from ISO downloaded today, Ubuntu Gnome Remix 12.10) or is it a bug?12:57
Noteirakanyone who can help with this here? :)13:00
smartboyhwNoteirak, ask jbicha again maybe:P13:11
Noteirakoh ok, sure13:11
Noteirakjbicha, do you have a minute? I am having some issue (possibly a bug) and I wanted a quick check if I am not missing anything13:12
Noteirakif it is fine, I'll copy/paste what I wrote already13:12
NoteirakI do not have any search provider in the shell, when I type some text. I've tried to add a google.xml in /usr/share/gnome-shell/search-providers & open-search-providers, restart, but no luck13:14
Noteirakalso, in dconf, there are no key reloated to the search providers in org.gnome.shell ... so, am I missing something (i was a new install from ISO downloaded today, Ubuntu Gnome Remix 12.10) or is it a bug?13:14
jbichaI don't know13:25
jbichabut nautilus 3.6 ships /usr/share/gnome-shell/search-providers/nautilus-search-provider.ini & /usr/lib/nautilus/nautilus-shell-search-provider13:26
jbichayou can try to figure out what Contacts & Documents do for their search providers13:27
jbichabut the Google/Wikipedia/opensearch provider support code may have been removed13:27
smartboyhwWow jbicha you have LTS releases for GNOME Remix! (aka 12.10.1) awesome!13:34
jbichasmartboyhw: how else would you distinguish the respin from the original release?13:35
smartboyhwjbicha, er 12.10.0.1:P13:35
jbichamaybe but I don't think the version number is a big deal; hopefully we won't ever have to do it again :)13:36
smartboyhw:)13:36
Noteiraksorry, was on the phone13:36
Noteirakso13:36
smartboyhwjbicha, found something interesting: Is the i386 torrent link in the release notes correct? I still saw 12.10 instead of 12.10.113:37
Noteiraki'll try nautilus then13:37
jbichasmartboyhw: yes, there was no need to respin i386 since the bug was that efi didn't work and efi is only supported on amd6413:37
smartboyhwjbicha, ah:D13:37
Noteirakjbicha: I'm looking with nautilus, but it is an .ini which links to another application or script or whatever I guess14:14
Noteirakbut there is no xml, like the google.xml that is there14:14
NoteirakI've created a google.xml but it's not taken into account14:15
Noteirakso i guess the code was removed to support that :s14:15
Noteirakdo you know, by any luck, who I should ask to have a definite answer on if it has been removed or not?14:17
jbichaNoteirak: you could ask in #gnome-shell on irc.gnome.org or you can search the git history14:22
jbichahttp://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-shell/commit/d?id=ef4231b9c0160a514:22
jbichahttp://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-shell/commit/?id=ef4231b9c0160a514:22
Noteirakgod, they removed it then :(14:23
Noteirakoh no14:23
Noteirakthey just made it so it would launch directly14:23
Noteirakor am I understanding it wrong?14:23
Noteirakbecause if it is supposed to start google directly if I just type it in and then enter, then it simply doesn't work :D or it's not replicated in the distro I guess14:25
jbichaNoteirak: no there is no Google search included now; someone would have to write the extension or search provider for that14:27
Noteirak:( doom14:29
Noteirakok thank you very much for your help14:29
Noteirakand for the link to the git :) that will be useful14:29
FitzzWasn't the 12.04 the first realease?17:44
jbichaFitzz: not for this specific project, there was a UGR in 2011 and more recently there was a Ubuntu GNOME Shell Remix17:47
FitzzIs this still the main hq web site: http://ubuntu-gs-remix.sourceforge.net/p/home/ ?17:48
jbichano, that's for the Ubuntu GNOME Shell Remix (which has been discontinued); this is the Ubuntu GNOME Remix17:50
jbichathe names are confusing which is part of why I don't like the current name17:50
FitzzAh, ok that explanes alot.17:50
FitzzThanks  :)17:50
lapionis there any way to get extensions for gnome-classic to work ?20:37
jbichalapion: define "extensions"20:37
lapionwell right now the panel(s) are unmutable20:38
lapionand I usually have (under gnome2) at the very least diskmount and cpu setting extension active20:39
lapionand I in general like to add more panels and do with them as I please..20:39
trismlapion: alt+right click to edit the panel (or maybe alt+super+right click if using compiz)20:39
lapionhmm thanks.. trism20:40
lapionnow I am willing to go over to quantal quetzal20:42
lapionhowever, I need to cross upgrade to gnome-ubuntu....20:43
lapionany advice/hints ?20:43
darkxstlapion, read the release notes20:44
lapioncross-grading20:44
lapionfrom ubuntu to gnome-buntu20:44
darkxstupgrade to Q first, and apply changes in release notes20:45
darkxstyou can't directly dist-upgrade to ubuntu gnome20:45
* lapion thinks he will try porting the system disk to virtualbox first ;-)20:46
* lapion will maybe simply copy the root to another partition and try..20:48
* lapion thinks he should rely more on tar then go blindfolded into this..20:52
darkxstjbicha_, we need to sync telepathy-logger from debian22:50
darkxsthttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/telepathy-logger/+bug/104921022:50
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1049210 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "Gnome-shell notification from empathy doesn't contain any text" [Undecided,Confirmed]22:50
jbicha_darkxst: 0.4.0-2 fixes that bug?22:55
darkxstyes, it does, specifically this patch 0002-log-manager-Fix-annotations-on-get_filtered_events.patch22:56
jbicha_ok, we can't do a straight sync since we need to have a LP bug in the debian/changelog for SRU verification22:57
darkxstah right22:58
jbicha_I think you'd want to just add a changelog entry for 0.4.0-2~ubuntu12.04.1 saying that it's a no-change backport with the LP bug #22:58
jbicha_and then if you were building the source package for upload to Ubuntu, you'd want to add -v0.4.0-1 to get both your changelog entry & Debian's in the .changes file23:00
jbicha_debuild -S -v0.4.0-123:00
jbicha_but since you're not uploading you don't need that information yet23:02
darkxstjbicha_, does this look right? https://code.launchpad.net/~darkxst/telepathy-logger/lp104921023:10
jbicha_yeah that should be good23:12
darkxstjbicha_, and then do I open merge request or attach debdiff?23:14
jbicha_darkxst: either is fine23:16
darkxstjbicha_, ok, all done https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/104921023:36
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1049210 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "Gnome-shell notification from empathy doesn't contain any text" [Undecided,Confirmed]23:37

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