[01:53] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=686834 [01:53] Gnome bug 686834 in general "installing alternate software from 'default apps' panel" [Normal,Unconfirmed] [01:54] though I would ping upstream to see what they think of the idea [02:02] jbicha, just out of interest, do you think I would qualify for ubuntu membership? [02:08] darkxst, i'm an ubuntu member, i could help gauge thaqt [02:08] darkxst, what's your LP page? [02:09] and what're your contributions thus far? [02:10] TheLordOfTime, https://launchpad.net/~darkxst [02:10] and also, what're your contributions thus far? [02:11] ah, you recently joined bugsquad :P [02:11] fix quite a bunch of bugs relating to ubuntu gnome [02:11] gdm, gnome-shell, casper and a few other random ones [02:11] any other contributions? [02:11] :P [02:12] and if it counts gnome-shell extensions [02:12] and some upstream bugfixes as well [02:13] * TheLordOfTime greps through the lp profile [02:15] well, your bugs work is significant :p [02:15] i can't speak to the upstream aspect. :P [02:15] my contribs that got me my membership were mainly support work on ask ubuntu, but i don't see a reason your membership would be rejected [02:16] and you've been here quite a while :P [02:16] you'd get my support from the bugs side of things [02:16] there's not much in terms of what you have to do to get membership other than be an active member of the community with sustained contributions [02:16] in some way shape or form [02:17] what is a ubuntu membership? [02:18] everaldo, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership [02:20] TheLordOfTime, would you provide a testimonial for me, (once I fill out my wiki page?) [02:20] fill out your wiki page and then we'll talk :P [02:20] * TheLordOfTime has his own focus atm, creating his wiki page for Per-Package Upload Rights for NGINX [02:21] that, and rebuilding TrekWeb's site :P [02:22] darkxst, nice, I think that you deserves membership [02:23] TheLordOfTime, ok thanks, will get back to you then! [02:23] everaldo, thanks, might hit you up a testimonial as well, when I am ready! [02:25] darkxst, I am not a member :( [02:26] but if it helps, I can provide a testimonial [02:29] everaldo, you should see my wiki page, a few people who gave me testimonials arent exactly members [02:29] then count with me :) [02:38] darkxst: there's actually 2 ways to become a member, there's also becoming a Ubuntu Contributing Developer [02:38] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopers#ContribDev [02:39] it doesn't provide any upload rights but you'd be judged based on your development contributions (i.e. packaging & bugfixes) [02:41] I don't know if that would be better in your case [02:41] jbicha, yeh right, certainly don't expect to get upload rights yet [02:41] but I guess most of the stuff I have been doing is definately dev stuff [02:41] "sustained" is generally interpreted as 6 months of activity [02:42] but can that include upstream gnome stuff? [02:44] while upstream contributions are generally encouraged as the right thing to do, it's a bit unclear whether that can substitute for working in Ubuntu [02:44] I think several board members want to see "significant and sustained" for Ubuntu [02:50] hehe, just added some small changes to iso-build script and now if we define PROXY=something [02:50] it really speed up all process, including debootstrap [02:51] just installed apt-cacher-ng and then [02:51] PROXY=http://localhost:3142 ./livecd-script.sh customize amd64 ./ubuntu-12.10-desktop-amd64.iso [02:53] jbicha, so do you think I should apply or wait a bit more, I guess a lot of my work over the last year was upstream/extensions prior to the birth of UGR [02:54] but I have been around for 5 years reporting and trying to fix bugs [02:55] based on https://launchpad.net/~darkxst/+related-software alone it looks like you should wait a few more months for Contributing Developer, but you may be ready for regular membership though [02:56] you can also read through the IRC meeting logs to get an idea of which applicants are successful [02:57] lol, thats because gdm took so much *fixing* [02:57] something like ~15 bugs for gdm alone ... [02:58] fixing *Ubuntu* bugs upstream definitely counts, you just have to explain that to the board members [03:04] hmm I just mean that page would likely have had more packages on it, if gdm hadn't been so broken ;) [03:05] I was speaking about the time aspect, not the quantity or quality [03:07] ah ok [03:17] jbicha, know anything about what is considered for PPU rights after an applicant applies? [03:17] i.e. what they look for :P [03:21] TheLordOfTime: I don't know as I haven't gone through that process, I have MOTU & ubuntu-desktop rights but the Desktop Team has its own procedure (basically an email and like 3 +1s) instead of PPU [03:51] jbicha, i asked about PPU because there's a few (different) packages i'm applying for, none which are directly under Desktop Team governance. It was a general question, was all. [03:51] not targetted for any speceific niche [12:54] hello [12:55] Hello [12:55] I've encountered some issues, and after finding nothing on google and in the bug tracker, I was hoping to find something here ,hopefully :) [12:56] the first is that I do not have any search provider in the shell, when I type some text. I've tried to add a google.xml in /usr/share/gnome-shell/search-providers & open-search-providers, restart, but no luck [12:57] also, in dconf, there are no key reloated to the search providers in org.gnome.shell ... [12:57] so, am I missing something (i was a new install from ISO downloaded today, Ubuntu Gnome Remix 12.10) or is it a bug? [13:00] anyone who can help with this here? :) [13:11] Noteirak, ask jbicha again maybe:P [13:11] oh ok, sure [13:12] jbicha, do you have a minute? I am having some issue (possibly a bug) and I wanted a quick check if I am not missing anything [13:12] if it is fine, I'll copy/paste what I wrote already [13:14] I do not have any search provider in the shell, when I type some text. I've tried to add a google.xml in /usr/share/gnome-shell/search-providers & open-search-providers, restart, but no luck [13:14] also, in dconf, there are no key reloated to the search providers in org.gnome.shell ... so, am I missing something (i was a new install from ISO downloaded today, Ubuntu Gnome Remix 12.10) or is it a bug? [13:25] I don't know [13:26] but nautilus 3.6 ships /usr/share/gnome-shell/search-providers/nautilus-search-provider.ini & /usr/lib/nautilus/nautilus-shell-search-provider [13:27] you can try to figure out what Contacts & Documents do for their search providers [13:27] but the Google/Wikipedia/opensearch provider support code may have been removed [13:34] Wow jbicha you have LTS releases for GNOME Remix! (aka 12.10.1) awesome! [13:35] smartboyhw: how else would you distinguish the respin from the original release? [13:35] jbicha, er 12.10.0.1:P [13:36] maybe but I don't think the version number is a big deal; hopefully we won't ever have to do it again :) [13:36] :) [13:36] sorry, was on the phone [13:36] so [13:37] jbicha, found something interesting: Is the i386 torrent link in the release notes correct? I still saw 12.10 instead of 12.10.1 [13:37] i'll try nautilus then [13:37] smartboyhw: yes, there was no need to respin i386 since the bug was that efi didn't work and efi is only supported on amd64 [13:37] jbicha, ah:D [14:14] jbicha: I'm looking with nautilus, but it is an .ini which links to another application or script or whatever I guess [14:14] but there is no xml, like the google.xml that is there [14:15] I've created a google.xml but it's not taken into account [14:15] so i guess the code was removed to support that :s [14:17] do you know, by any luck, who I should ask to have a definite answer on if it has been removed or not? [14:22] Noteirak: you could ask in #gnome-shell on irc.gnome.org or you can search the git history [14:22] http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-shell/commit/d?id=ef4231b9c0160a5 [14:22] http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-shell/commit/?id=ef4231b9c0160a5 [14:23] god, they removed it then :( [14:23] oh no [14:23] they just made it so it would launch directly [14:23] or am I understanding it wrong? [14:25] because if it is supposed to start google directly if I just type it in and then enter, then it simply doesn't work :D or it's not replicated in the distro I guess [14:27] Noteirak: no there is no Google search included now; someone would have to write the extension or search provider for that [14:29] :( doom [14:29] ok thank you very much for your help [14:29] and for the link to the git :) that will be useful [17:44] Wasn't the 12.04 the first realease? [17:47] Fitzz: not for this specific project, there was a UGR in 2011 and more recently there was a Ubuntu GNOME Shell Remix [17:48] Is this still the main hq web site: http://ubuntu-gs-remix.sourceforge.net/p/home/ ? [17:50] no, that's for the Ubuntu GNOME Shell Remix (which has been discontinued); this is the Ubuntu GNOME Remix [17:50] the names are confusing which is part of why I don't like the current name [17:50] Ah, ok that explanes alot. [17:50] Thanks :) [20:37] is there any way to get extensions for gnome-classic to work ? [20:37] lapion: define "extensions" [20:38] well right now the panel(s) are unmutable [20:39] and I usually have (under gnome2) at the very least diskmount and cpu setting extension active [20:39] and I in general like to add more panels and do with them as I please.. [20:39] lapion: alt+right click to edit the panel (or maybe alt+super+right click if using compiz) [20:40] hmm thanks.. trism [20:42] now I am willing to go over to quantal quetzal [20:43] however, I need to cross upgrade to gnome-ubuntu.... [20:43] any advice/hints ? [20:44] lapion, read the release notes [20:44] cross-grading [20:44] from ubuntu to gnome-buntu [20:45] upgrade to Q first, and apply changes in release notes [20:45] you can't directly dist-upgrade to ubuntu gnome [20:46] * lapion thinks he will try porting the system disk to virtualbox first ;-) [20:48] * lapion will maybe simply copy the root to another partition and try.. [20:52] * lapion thinks he should rely more on tar then go blindfolded into this.. [22:50] jbicha_, we need to sync telepathy-logger from debian [22:50] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/telepathy-logger/+bug/1049210 [22:50] Ubuntu bug 1049210 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "Gnome-shell notification from empathy doesn't contain any text" [Undecided,Confirmed] [22:55] darkxst: 0.4.0-2 fixes that bug? [22:56] yes, it does, specifically this patch 0002-log-manager-Fix-annotations-on-get_filtered_events.patch [22:57] ok, we can't do a straight sync since we need to have a LP bug in the debian/changelog for SRU verification [22:58] ah right [22:58] I think you'd want to just add a changelog entry for 0.4.0-2~ubuntu12.04.1 saying that it's a no-change backport with the LP bug # [23:00] and then if you were building the source package for upload to Ubuntu, you'd want to add -v0.4.0-1 to get both your changelog entry & Debian's in the .changes file [23:00] debuild -S -v0.4.0-1 [23:02] but since you're not uploading you don't need that information yet [23:10] jbicha_, does this look right? https://code.launchpad.net/~darkxst/telepathy-logger/lp1049210 [23:12] yeah that should be good [23:14] jbicha_, and then do I open merge request or attach debdiff? [23:16] darkxst: either is fine [23:36] jbicha_, ok, all done https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1049210 [23:37] Ubuntu bug 1049210 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "Gnome-shell notification from empathy doesn't contain any text" [Undecided,Confirmed]