[00:01] o [00:01] nope [00:01] i always use mirrors [00:02] torrent process is supposed to have no chance of corruption [00:02] so should not need to have md5sum of it, however... if someone lights off the torrent with a corrupt file.. it is going ot land corrupt... very bad for user experience [00:08] xubuntu212: if you get the torrent-file and the checksum-file from the same site, they will probably both be corrupted and match eachother (assuming competent crooks) [00:27] xubuntu212: i've just downloaded xubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso via torrent and md5sum matches that on site cdimages.ubuntu.com [01:09] not a bug exactly [01:09] but it seems weird that when I click to minimize in xfce-panel I can't just click again to bring a window back [01:09] I have to switch focus to another window first [01:09] then I can click the first window to restore [01:10] So, is this channel only for XFCE help [01:10] bin_bash:: I don't think so. [01:11] but I did just realize that xfce has its own channel [02:00] hi all, i installed xubuntu 12.04.1 with xubuntu-restricted-extras and enabled 'partners' source then tryed both adobe-flashplugin and flashplugin-installer..i still cant play youtube any thoughts? === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang [02:38] haven't tried 12.10 yet, how is it? [02:40] Is the UI pretty much the same in the LTS as 12.10 ? [02:40] dont know [02:40] about to try it on virtualbox [02:41] psychogenik: are you on the LTS? [02:41] Not too different, just a couple things. Read the release notes? [02:41] Unit193: So there's nothing spectacularly new from the LTS ? [02:41] yea was wondering if I should stay on lts or not [02:42] Xfce 4.10, big one. [02:42] I was wondering if I should get the LTS or 12.10.. I'm thinking LTS since I don't like being annoyed a lot. [02:49] I suppose I'll download the LTS, run it live.. see if I like the looks of it.. then run 12.10 later on the USB stick and figure out which one I want [02:50] I'm getting tired of ye olde XP lagging up with MSE or AGP [02:50] avg..tomatoes..tuhamatoes [02:51] aha same mse is killin xp for me [02:51] yeah, and avira blows. [02:52] I'll prob go with LTS just to be safe [02:52] cant make up my mind really [02:52] I just want to go with it just to not be annoyed for 3 years if I don't want to be. [02:54] anyone effected by the ext4 data corruption bug? [03:58] Hello everyone, I installed xubuntu recently. I got a prob. Every filesystem icons is displayed twice on my desktop! Someone pls help me fix this [03:59] Bug #1044896 and Bug #1039375 [03:59] Launchpad bug 1044896 in xfce4 (Ubuntu) "desktop shows removable storage devices twice" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1044896 [03:59] Launchpad bug 1039375 in thunar (Ubuntu) "Duplicate partitions shown" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1039375 [04:42] I <3 12.10 [05:44] Hello Everyone, Volume icon is missing in the top panel. Please help me fix it! [05:50] Problem Solved. Thanks if someone took effort to answer. :) [05:53] why doesnt xubuntu 12.10 have graphic drivers? [05:55] cause it does? [05:56] mine isnt showing up only my wifi driver :( [05:56] is it an AMD video card or NVIDIA? [05:56] or maybe its intel? [05:57] AMD [05:57] the closed source AMD drivers dont work on the new kernel unless you do serious hackage [05:58] awr [05:58] but the open source AMD drivers IMO are quite good [05:58] where can I find those? [05:58] you are using them [05:59] its part of the kernel... heh.. more or less an extension of the Xorg project [05:59] oh [05:59] what AMD video card do you have? [05:59] older one [05:59] 3200 [05:59] oh well yeah [06:00] the older ones are very well supported [06:00] run glxgears and see what frames/second you get [06:00] ok [06:01] I'm very happy the way open source is headed these days [06:02] I was just used to being able to see catalyst manager [06:02] ah [06:02] yeah... when AMD bought ATI, AMD started releasing specs to the video cards so better open source drivers could be made [06:03] and hired a few people to help the dev along [06:04] heard recently they laid off a lot of people and going to stop supporting legacy drivers for xp and linux [06:04] so I might have to upgrade soon. [06:04] for closed source, yeah... open source drivers will continue to thrive [06:04] oh thats good [06:06] you run glxgears from the command line? [06:06] said could not be found? [06:07] oh yeah [06:08] you need to apt-get install mesa-utils [06:11] ok i'm getting good fps [06:11] thanks [06:11] easy problem is easy [06:11] :3 [06:18] Good morning. [06:18] it is indeed... 19 minutes into morning [06:28] 8:28 [06:28] Pretty advanced morning, I'd say. [06:29] It's become even bright already :P [06:43] Hello Everyone [06:48] Hi, The_Letter_M. [07:13] herm [07:14] is there something to just show other people what I'm working on? [07:14] something like VNC but without the ability to control computers [07:17] WalterN: what do you mean by show? [07:17] show the code or a vid clip of it or... ? [07:17] Screencast style, but live. [07:18] like... well.. I guess VNC would work if the remote control part is disabled [07:18] -noremote Do not process any remote control commands or queries. [07:19] is there a shiny GUI thingy around? [07:20] iirc vlc has a screencapture option that you could share on the lan, you'd have to set it up for streaming [07:21] vlc = video lan client it's made to do that sort of thing [07:22] right... and I want to set up a server.. what one do I want? [07:23] with shiny buttons to click on XD [07:23] I don't think there's one like that around [07:23] there'll be cli work invovled afaik [07:24] if the others have vnc use that [07:28] WalterN: might be something you could use here - http://www.howtoforge.com/streaming-your-desktop-with-audio-and-webcam-overlay-in-a-browser-using-ffmpeg-crtmpserver-and-flowplayer [07:29] evil suggestion: use skype (you can share your screen with it, works across platforms) [07:29] my mind was just starting to wonder to ffmpeg.. heh [07:30] that is one heck of an intensive command [07:31] it is :0 [07:31] ffmpeg -f alsa -i pulse -f x11grab -s 1680x1050 -r 30 -i :0.0+0,0 -vf "movie=/dev/video0:f=video4linux2, scale=240:-1, fps, setpts=PTS-STARTPTS [movie]; [in][movie] overlay=main_w-overlay_w-2:main_h-overlay_h-2 [out]" -vcodec libx264 -crf 20 -preset veryfast -minrate 150k -maxrate 500k -s 960x540 -acodec libfaac -ar 44100 -ab 96000 -threads 0 -f flv - | tee name.flv | ffmpeg -i - -codec copy -f flv -met [07:31] adata streamName=livestream tcp://x.x.y.y:1234 [07:31] lol [07:31] vlc can make it easier - http://grok.lsu.edu/article.aspx?articleid=14625 [07:34] Pleasantly surprised by Xubuntu 12.10. Decided to try ubuntu again, after a while with Debian, after having deserted ubuntu (after having used debian for years). [07:34] Confusing, I know. [07:34] Anyway, 12.10 looks good, and I haven't had that many ubuntu-clusterfucks so far. [07:34] A few crashes are to be expected, I guess, but overall it works quite well. [07:35] the only problem I've ever had was with unity... [07:35] WalterN: Sure, ubuntu as a dist works quite well. I do still get the occasional "system crash"-popup though. Plus, I dislike the categorization of updates. Sometimes I get GUI-updates in "critical security updates". [07:36] Which makes no sense, to me. [07:36] But yes, xubuntu 12.10 looks great. [07:38] :) [07:43] Silence-: Alas, Xubuntu still needs improvements. [07:44] Wizard: Of course. All Linux systems do. We need better cooperation. I still hope Google will stop using ubuntu+unity at their offices, and instead put effort into developing Google Linux, with great design and, perhaps, dedicated hardware, apple style. Imagine a Linux Dist made by Google, that could handle native Android apps. [07:44] And with great design etc. [07:44] That would truly change the market. [07:44] I don't doubt. [07:46] Unity is a nice aproach, but its quality is terrible. [07:46] Xfce is stable, but sometimes it is inconsistent. [07:46] Nothing is perfect :P [07:46] At least xfce is fast and not so much RAM hungry. [07:47] I always stuck with fluxbox or lately, lxde. [07:47] I found xfce too bloated. [07:47] But I must say, it is quite nice. [07:47] I like that dists still needs improvements. [07:47] That's what makes people create new and better ways, and new dists. [07:47] 4.10 got some nice features. [07:47] It keeps the Linux world on its feet. [07:48] :P [07:53] hi [07:53] anyone still up? [08:58] hello, does anyone know how to enable the volume control button in the indicator applet (i am running xfce desktop on xubuntu 12.04) [09:19] no patience [09:43] Hi. I am using Xubuntu 12.04 on my laptop and I am connecting the laptop to external lcd tv via hdmi. The problem I facing is that if I clone the displays on both the laptop and tv, some part of the screen gets clipped on the laptop screen [09:43] I mean there is some portion of the screen on the edge of the screen which I cannot access [09:43] So, how do I solve this problem? [09:44] I never faced this problem while using Ubuntu.. [09:45] jayneil_: how are you going about cloning the display? [09:45] via settings>display [09:45] k [09:45] and use both laptop and hdmi output [09:46] basically i want the output on both laptop and external tv in proper resolution without anything getting clipped [09:46] of course [09:46] jayneil_: did you try to set it up with xrandr? [09:47] jayneil_: or arandr, if you like gui [09:47] arandr keeps crashing [09:49] you can check what the display settings are now with xrandr [09:49] is that laptop using the tv's size? [09:50] ok. i ran xrandr. it seems tv is in full 1080p and laptop is 1366x768 [09:52] that seems like it should be ok then [09:54] are you using one of the proprietry graphics drivers ? [09:54] http://pastebin.com/G8Hy0Hea [09:54] they have their own interface for that [09:54] output of the xrandr command [09:55] no external graphics card [09:55] default intel graphic card [09:56] intel should work fine with xrandr [09:57] the xrandr paste was what you said it was [09:57] also on the external tv, some portion is clipped [09:57] so what should i do to fix this..? [09:58] what makes you think there is screen realestate on the laptop that's not visible? [09:58] or why do you think it is clipped? [09:59] well i have my browser open.. So, i cannot see close or maximise button on right hand side. its way beyond the edge of the screen [09:59] same with file manager.. i cannot see any of those buttons.. some of the icons are even clipped off on the right hand side near the edge of the screen [10:00] on the laptop? [10:01] it might be that the tv is the primary so windows show up larger on the laptop [10:01] on the laptop as well as the external tv [10:01] on both ok [10:03] but changing the external tv resolution to 1680x1050 solves the edge issue on it.. but the problem stll persists on the laptop screen [10:06] it could be the OS is seeing the native resolution of the TV and setting its self to that, when the actual viewing area of the TV is smaller (so you have to set a smaller resolution) [10:06] I've had something like this with my "1080p" TV [10:07] when its actually a few pixels smaller viewing area [10:08] but right now I'm too tired to brain [10:08] * WalterN passes out on the bed [10:08] the 12.10 installer's security key strength indicator works kinda weirdly [10:08] it goes from "strong password" to "short password" by adding characters to the "strong" one [10:10] ok [10:11] jayneil_: did you set a size for each monitor when you set them up? [10:20] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1982974 [10:32] No, I did not. But, i reduced the external tv's resolution from 1080p to 1650x1080 so that it fits the screen [10:32] no change on the laptop screen resolution [10:33] i am trying to get arandr to run.. but it just keeps crashing. even downloaded the latest version.. same thing. it wont execute [10:33] if you run it in a terminal is there any errors ? [10:33] yes [10:34] you can paste them [10:34] !paste [10:34] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [10:34] http://pastebin.com/Qtqd54Tz [10:36] seems python doesn't think 480i is an integer [10:36] and it isn't [10:37] so what should i do now? [10:37] do you have the file .arandr in your home dir ? [10:38] I'd delete that and try again [10:38] hang on - why are you running arandr from the Downloads dir? [10:39] !info arandr [10:39] arandr (source: arandr): Simple visual front end for XRandR. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.6-1 (quantal), package size 62 kB, installed size 456 kB [10:39] it's in the package manager [10:41] yea true.. but that does not worl [10:41] *work [10:41] so i downloaded the latest version from the website and tried running it [10:41] it's the same errors for both? [10:41] or similar? [10:42] well when i install it from software center, i get an icon and i just click on that but nothing happens [10:42] try from a terminal [10:42] sudo apt-get install arandr [10:43] did that too.. it just does not open.. [10:44] 2mrw I am going to try connecting my laptop with another monitor and make sure that this problem is not because of it.. [10:45] I'd make sure I had set the size for each monitor in settings>display [10:46] yea the size is set.. [10:47] but here is the wierd thing.. i have jupiter installed.. so in that if i go to Video Display?both internal left, then it fixes the issue on my laptop but not the tv [10:47] video display>both internal left [10:48] ok afaik the other thing to try is to logout, press ctrl+alt+F2 and login and mv -v ~/.config ~/.config.bak and logout and ctrl+alt+F7 and login and try the setup again [11:34] hi. I was having some problems with connecting my laptop to external screen. So, I renamed my ~/.config file to ~/.config.bak and somehow messed up [11:34] and now all my old settings are gone [11:34] and its all haywire [11:35] the laptop does not even detect an hdmi monitor anymore [11:35] This is really strange. [11:36] 1. Never mess with .config, there are other configuration directories (like .local) [11:36] 2. Messing with .config can't just disable hardware support. [11:36] Do you have monitor your monitor attached now? [11:36] yes [11:37] everything is gone [11:37] even the keyboard shortcut does not wor [11:37] what does xrandr command say? [11:37] *work [11:37] it does not show the external monitor [11:37] Whoa. [11:38] damn! why on earth did i bother with all this.. [11:38] it took me so long to get this asus laptop to work with xubuntu [11:38] Don't worry. [11:38] and not i got to start all over from scratch [11:38] Nvidia optimus? [11:38] no normal intel hd graphic card [11:39] Hmm.. so it should work out of the box. [11:39] arandr was not running.. hence i tried messing with config file [11:39] check xorg.log for errors. [11:39] where do i find the above folder? [11:40] /var/log/X11 [11:40] Or just /var/log.. I never remember :P [11:43] it is a very big file [11:44] Look for EE or lines related to HDMI. [11:44] I'm not an expert in Xorg configuration/drivers/monitors, unfortuntely. [11:44] Acrually, I'm not expert at all :P [11:52] Uh. [11:53] "I feel so helpless" [12:05] i installed to a friend's old notebook (acer travelmate with cpu 3ghz and 750 ram) xubuntu 12.04. Everything to be running smoothly, but very often the system freezes during internet browsing (using either Mozilla or Crome) and the only way to re-start is to click to power on/off button. Any idea? Is it a distro's issue or is it a harware problem? [12:06] ilias: have you installed the Flash plugin ? [12:06] ilias, I answered you in #kubuntu already [12:06] Sometimes Flash crashes for me too [12:08] bazhang: thank you for your answer. i am considering about lubuntu. do you think i have to go straight from this installation trying sudo apt-get install lubuntu or try a fresh one? [12:09] Spike29: adobe must be installed. otherwise no page is possible to be read. [12:09] ok [12:13] Spike29: the problem is that freezes to often. if there is no activity nothing is happening, but if you try to browse to certain 'heavy' pages crash is almost everytime coming? so ram limitation, accelerator card driver's issue or just distro too heavy for this machine? [12:14] what is the CPU ? [12:15] intel 3ghz 7 years old [12:15] well, it should work with xubuntu :/ [12:16] lubuntu is faster, btw [12:16] but a fresh install is better [12:17] sure. i am running 12.04 on an older hp notebook with a 1,5 ghz but with a 1,5 gb ram and is very very fast and smooth. so why not a 3 ghz processor. [12:19] Spike29: i have already downloaded lubuntu 12.04 to try it. should i try this distro or try an older one. i also downloaded xubuntu 10.04 witch is still alive. should i try it or i will loose my time? [12:19] well, you can try both of them on LiveCDs [12:20] whithout installing anything [12:23] yes, sure but this option is more slow. i downloaded also mint 13 which as far as i read is based on ubuntu. is it a good also option to try it or is it definetely more heavy than xubuntu 12.04. i read the requirements and asks for at least 512 as 12.04 i think. [12:24] evening [12:25] okey guys. thank you for your advises. i quit for now. [12:34] let the rhythm be your guiding light [13:14] I upgraded to Xubuntu 12.10 and now i cant mount DVD/CD. Running as root: If I try $mount /dev/cdrom2 /mnt ; I get can`t read superblock. If i try: $mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom2 /mnt; I get: Wrong fs type. Does anyone know what I can do. I worked before upgrading. [13:16] "could not install package" when trying to run ntp from the time menu. Any comment? [13:16] ah, in Xubuntu 12.10 (64) [13:16] ntp is not working again? [13:34] Marzatha: try to install ntp from the command line [13:34] koegs: again? [13:34] in 11.10 all was fine [13:34] Marzatha: try "sudo apt-get install ntp" [13:35] in 12.04 wrong, in 12.10 wrong again [13:44] where do you change the size of the panel text of the weather applet? [13:51] ok, will write all this in the forum ... and thanks [14:10] hi, please, I missed the "envelope" area in the bar after the upgrade, the one that use to be pidgin, etc.... any idea? [14:47] is anyone here? [14:47] no [14:48] TheSheep, irony :p [15:10] I upgraded to Xubuntu 12.10 and now i can NOT mount DVD/CD. Running as root: If I try $mount /dev/cdrom2 /mnt ; I get can`t read superblock. If i try: $mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom2 /mnt; I get: Wrong fs type. Does anyone know what I can do. It worked fine before upgrading, automounting and all... [15:16] knome, the quality of 3.5 is speaking for itself ;) [15:16] are you sure /dev/cdrom2 is the proper path? [15:17] mcb_1, honestly revert back to 12.04 and stay there for 5 years :p [15:18] apm1: you are not helping [15:18] it is and will be much more stable than new releases [15:18] apm1: you are still not helping [15:18] apm1: This realy solves a problem.... [15:19] mcb_1, sarcasm ? [15:19] mcb_1: what i wonder is why do you need to use the mount option, cdroms should be automounted [15:20] mcb_1: I tried to mount by hand cause that automount stoped working. But I also posted in the Ubuntu IRC and I think i came to a solution. [15:20] I am just testing it. [15:21] And worked fine! Problem was: In the upgrade for some reason, my /dev/cdrom was moved to /dev/cdrom2. I just remade the link to sr0 with cdrom. [15:24] welp that was what i was asking you :P mcb_1 [15:37] I [15:37] am batman! === batman is now known as Guest55256 [15:37] PrinceMotumbo: You interuppted me. [15:37] What! [15:37] I AM BATMAN [15:37] STOP THIS NONSENSE [15:37] Fuck you NickServ [15:38] Batman used to be a Debian user. [15:38] Not anymore! [16:03] thank you TheSheep [16:13] hi, please, anyone know how to recover the "envelope" icon in the bar... I'ts lost after the upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10 [16:13] whats envelope? [16:14] marcpv: its because indicator-messages-gkt2 is gone for 12.10 [16:14] so it's normal? [16:14] http://xubuntu.org/news/12-10-release/ [16:15] Known issues: The messaging indicator is not available for 12.10 [16:15] HELL YEAH XUBUNTU ROCKS [16:15] woooo! [16:15] marcpv: sadly yes, but maybe there will be a fix [16:15] I miss it... :( [16:15] marcpv: me too [16:15] I hope there is a fix soon... thanks you anyway baizon [16:15] marcpv: np [16:16] bye! [16:17] I'm actually running Gnome Shell. is there a ubuntu chanenel for that? [16:18] unheeding: no, #gnobuntu is empty [16:19] just try it on #ubuntu [16:20] or here :) [16:20] ok [16:20] I am on xubuntu [16:20] yes [16:23] unheeding: if you are not using xfce, you are not on xubuntu [16:23] but the xubuntu splash screen still shows up [16:23] hehehe [16:24] :) [16:24] xubuntu theme != xfce ;) [16:24] That doesn't work like that. [16:24] its not even the whole theme, its xubuntu-plymouth-theme [16:25] unheeding: you can put a cat picture as splash if you want. that doesnt make it that you will be runing in cat P: [16:26] what if i customize kde to look like Xfce [16:26] does that count [16:26] unheeding: not really [16:26] haha [16:26] no [16:26] i tried cinnamon yesterday. looks promising too. [16:26] i like cinnamon, but the menu takes FOREVER to open up [16:26] still a bit buggy but nice and fast. really liked it [16:27] instantly for me [16:27] maybe i'll install it again and try it out [16:27] i idn't install mint [16:27] i finally have fglrx installed [16:27] xfce + synapse, thats the sollution! [16:27] just apt-get install cinnamon [16:27] yeah thats what i meant [16:27] couldn't use the desktop, no right-clicks possible [16:27] but the rest was working great [16:28] !ot | all [16:28] all: #xubuntu is the Xubuntu support channel, #xubuntu-devel for discussion regarding development of Xubuntu, and #xubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome! [16:28] !ot [16:30] Any USB installation guides? [16:31] you want to install xubuntu on a USB stick? [16:32] or via a USB stick? [16:32] !usb [16:32] For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent [16:32] Via a USB stick. Sorry about that. [16:34] i can't bookmark SFTP:// connections in thunar. this hasn't worked with older releases either. is there a way to fix it? i was wondering if it was my system oder if it's a general problem. [16:35] do you have gvfs-backends installed? [16:36] the connections work, i just can't bookmark them. gvfs-backends is installed [16:36] if a bookmark a connection, the bookmark is lost, after logout [16:36] i tried to use gigolo as a replacement, but gigolo doesn't save the passwords in the gnome-keyring in 12.10 [16:37] i don't know how to fix this either :) [16:39] wonderworld: its a longstanding known bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gvfs/+bug/212789 [16:39] Launchpad bug 212789 in gvfs (Debian) "gvfs fuse mount is not functional after logout and subsequent login" [Undecided,New] [16:40] wonderworld: you can add the sftp location to fstab as a mount point and you add the mount point to the sidebar [16:40] yes, i fiddled around with sshfs before to do that. [16:40] thanks for your help [16:43] wonderworld: dont worry and good luck [16:43] ok, this bug is really old. 2008 [16:44] indeed, long standing bug it is [17:48] hi [17:48] !hi | glitch_ [17:48] glitch_: Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay! [17:50] thank you [17:51] I had questions, but I've forgotten them...lol [17:51] hehe [17:51] happens [17:55] oh okay so I'm naturally long winded... I dont try, but I struggle with finding a simpler way to say things... so bare with me but I remembered one of my questions, and it's complicated... to ask, not to understand, and solve... [17:56] dont ask to ask, just ask... :3 http://denver.mylittlefacewhen.com/media/f/rsz/mlfw7621_medium.jpg [17:57] glitch_: use a pastebin :) [17:58] I'm not asking for permission to ask... (I'm american, I have be brought up to believe it's my right to ask/say whatever's on my mind) I'm just giving you all a heads up. [18:01] I'm running xubuntu 12.04 live with persistence on a toshiba 1Tb USB 3.0 portable HDD... will provide other specs as needed... [18:03] sooooo [18:04] what's the question? :D [18:05] I'm a slow typer and it's long... so it's gonna be a min. [18:10] hi. I tried to upgrade to a new verison yesterday and although it went through installation, it does not restart. I keep getting to the screen where xubunuty line in running accross. Please help! [18:11] xubuntu911: Tap escape and see the errors. I bet they are there. [18:11] xubuntu911: press shift while booting to see if you can get the boot menu, if you can try recovery mode [18:19] I don't like how *buntu changed