[00:37] <SIR_Taco> dougl: you're not up to date as of yet.... you should be at (with updates) 12.04.1
[00:43] <dougl> SIR_Taco, Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS
[00:46] <SIR_Taco> then you are, still not sure why the backports wont work for you
[00:51] <dougl> not to worry - beer is here... will prolly do a 12.10 install tomorrow
[00:56] <SIR_Taco> try beer + sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports :)
[01:05] <xixor> yo, anyone using the Kwin GLES window manager?
[01:21] <msx> xixor: yup, although not on kub
[01:21] <msx> what's up with it?
[05:37] <noaXess> morning
[05:38] <noaXess> got some pages with blurry font in latest ff on my 12.10, kde 4.92.  found out, that there is a strange font used on that pages: HelveticaNeueW01-55Roma see this page http://www.citrix.com/downloads/citrix-receiver/receivers-by-platform/receiver-for-linux-121.html
[05:39] <noaXess> any dea how to get this fint correctly rendered in firefox? see this screenshot http://i.imgur.com/kgqKy.png
[05:41] <noaXess> btw. chromium does render it correctly i think
[06:07] <funcrush> Hi. could you anbody help me? plasma-desktop always crashed on playing music and flash (google-chrome).
[06:39] <lghuy> alo?
[06:40] <lghuy> somebody r there?
[06:42] <lghuy> dsfsdfsdfsd
[06:42] <lghuy> fuck
[06:43] <d_ed> lghuy: if you have a question, just ask
[07:40] <Assurbanipal> hi guys,i am on kubuntu 12.10 and have probles with kdesudo not accepting my root pass..tried to google it,but din't find a solution...anyone who can help?
[07:52] <noaXess> grrr.. plasma is setting me crazy.. grrr... swap, swap swap
[11:24] <ulysses> hello, how can I try Kubuntu 12.10 from Live USB? It asks for a password...
[11:24] <TOM_otakux> hello 070
[11:25] <TOM_otakux> password is null
[11:25] <TOM_otakux> you do not have too key anything
[11:25] <TOM_otakux> *to
[11:26] <ulysses> Doesn't work
[11:27] <ulysses> I downloaded the x64 ISO via torrent on Windows, and used the Linux Live USB Creator to make a bootable pendrive
[11:29] <TOM_otakux> you use live cd or installed ?
[11:29] <TOM_otakux> if you installed the password is yours
[11:29] <TOM_otakux> if you use livecd
[11:29] <TOM_otakux> the password is null
[11:29] <ulysses> I know, I want to install yet
[11:30] <TOM_otakux> you just press enter
[11:30] <TOM_otakux> the desktop has a icon that you can install
[11:30] <ulysses> ...and here we go again, nothing happens
[11:31] <TOM_otakux> = =
[11:31] <TOM_otakux> i use the install program in kubuntu 1204
[11:31] <TOM_otakux> my 1210 is upgrade from 12.04 XD
[11:32] <TOM_otakux> i need to reboot XD
[11:36] <TOM_otakux> hello again 0.0
[11:36] <TOM_otakux> the keyboard is weird
[11:36] <TOM_otakux> the keyboard is weird 0.0
[11:50] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: btw.... feature X being present and not working represents a regression over feature X being present and working, so regardless of whether it was remembering passwords before does not matter as an already existing feature is being fixed
[11:50] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: righto, I was under the impression that remembering passwords was a new feature, I've never used it, so I wouldn't know ;)
[11:52] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: would still be SRUable as long as it does not introduce a new string and does not change the UI significantly :P
[11:53] <shadeslayer> but those things are much more difficult to SRU as compared to fixing regressions ;)
[11:55] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: nah just needs to be argued well, and actually I think not remembering passwords ought to be considered a defect rather than a wish anyway
[11:55] <shadeslayer> true
[11:56] <dougl> ok here goes 12.10 install... hopefully you can print from a clean install of that.
[12:06] <Smurphy> Installing kubuntu on my gaming machine... Let's see when I can test Steam on Linux :)
[12:08] <dougla> Oh damn - is 12.10 buggy as all hell too?
[12:09] <Smurphy> not for me ...
[12:09] <lordievader> dougla: Not really?
[12:10] <Smurphy> Can't get it to run on my netbok - but the Graphic Chip is too new (Cedarview) ...
[12:11] <dougla> lordievader, just a very long wait I guess? this is the 9th time installing OS in 3 days - I guess my patience is wearing thin
[12:12] <lordievader> dougla: A long wait for what?
[12:15] <dougla> lordievader, after it asks the first question after you select install kubuntu? what was the next step?
[12:16] <lordievader> dougla: Phew haven't done an install in a while, also I have never done the 12.10 desktop install.
[12:18] <dougla> lordievader, not to worry? is progressing now - just seemed like a long time without any disk activitiy so I was getting all reved up to start to whine and complain and get my money back - lol
[12:20] <FruityPancakes> whats the command again to upgrade ?
[12:20] <dougla> to 12.10 from previous?
[12:20] <FruityPancakes> yeah
[12:23] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[12:23] <dougla> BluesKaj, how are you?
[12:23] <dougla> BluesKaj, FruityPancakes wants to know what command to upgrade to 12.10
[12:24] <BluesKaj> just fine thanks dougla , and you ?
[12:24] <BluesKaj> from ?
[12:24] <BluesKaj> from 12.04 ?
[12:24] <dougla> BluesKaj, better now? had a rough couple of days - 3 machines were down (recovering now) and a UPS packed er in.
[12:25] <lordievader> FruityPancakes: sudo do-release-upgrade
[12:25] <dougla> FruityPancakes, what are you at now?
[12:26] <FruityPancakes> hey sorry, package at the door
[12:26] <dougla> FruityPancakes, you missed it all...
[12:27] <dougla> the answers to life were revealed and are now gone
[12:27] <BluesKaj> FruityPancakes, make sure your package manager has upgrades set to normal , not LTS  m then the command lordievader gave will work
[12:27] <FruityPancakes> haha, maybe but I did just recieve my pint glass in the shape of a boot..
[12:27] <FruityPancakes> okay thanks
[12:27] <dougla> right the normal option? I knew I wass forgetting something
[12:27] <lordievader> FruityPancakes: Or use the -d switch.
[12:28] <lordievader> Tough that might update to a beta.
[12:28] <FruityPancakes> i think i got the LTS of 12.04
[12:28] <FruityPancakes> i used the -d switch, i guess that ignores the LTS option?
[12:28] <BluesKaj> FruityPancakes, also update/upgrade and dist-upgrade before doing the release upgrade
[12:28] <lordievader> But since there isn't a beta release of 13.04 yet, it will just update to 12.10.
[12:29] <FruityPancakes> Yeah i tried the dist upgrade earlier, had nothing else to update :)
[12:29] <dougla> booting 12.10
[12:31] <BluesKaj> FruityPancakes, no -d doesn't ignore the LTS option , the LTS only upgrade has to be disabled
[12:31] <FruityPancakes> i see, I just changed the /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades option from lts to normal
[12:32] <BluesKaj> ok , then you should be good to go , FruityPancakes
[12:32] <FruityPancakes> Thanks
[12:37] <xixor> good morning
[12:37] <FruityPancakes> morning
[12:40] <xixor> is it a'ight to mix and match apt-get, aptitude and muon, when installing and upgrading?
[12:41] <BluesKaj> !aptitude | xixor
[12:42] <xixor> so, is there any problems with mix and matching using apt-get, aptitude and muon on a daily basis?
[12:43] <BluesKaj> muon and and apt-get both use the dpkg package management system as does aptitude with the caveat above , xixor
[12:43] <dougla> well 12.10 sucked? lets reinstall 12.04...
[12:43] <xixor> dougla: 12.10 is not working for you?
[12:43] <BluesKaj> muon is merely a gui
[12:43] <dougla> nope
[12:44] <crash_> I really liked 10.10, compiz works best.
[12:44] <BluesKaj> 12.10 is graet on my setup ..depends on your hw of course
[12:45] <BluesKaj> err great :)
[12:46] <xixor> BluesKaj: ok, thanks, that clears it up
[12:47] <BluesKaj> xixor, best to stick with apt-get and muon IMO
[12:47] <BluesKaj> heh, I even used synaptic til 12.04
[12:48] <dougla> me too
[12:48] <dougla> synaptic
[12:48] <xixor> 12.10 is working fine for me, seems pretty stable so far.  I had a few KDE apps crash frequently in 12.04
[12:49] <BluesKaj> kde 4.8 was a bit shaky in 12.04
[12:51] <xixor> ah, makes sense
[12:51] <xixor> 4.9 in 12.10 seems qutie a bit more stable, at least to me anyway
[12:52] <BluesKaj> yes it is
[12:53] <dougla> can you upgrade to 4.9 in 12.04?
[12:54] <Smurphy> Just installed it on my Gaming Computer. i5 2.6GHz, 8GB Ram, GTX660Ti, 2x1TB Disks (1 using Win7, the other KUbuntu) :) XiFi Creatives Audio-Card.
[12:54] <Smurphy> Works fine so far ...
[12:54] <Kovica> dougla: yes, you can
[12:54] <dougla> ty
[12:55] <Kovica> dougla: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports
[12:55] <Kovica> dougla: the sudo apg-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:55] <BluesKaj> didt-upgrade
[12:55] <BluesKaj> dist-upgrade rather
[12:56] <dougla> Kovica, then what gets upgraded?
[12:56] <BluesKaj> kde
[12:56] <dougla> and nothibg else?
[12:56] <Kovica> dougla: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.9.2
[12:58] <dougla> I just finished installing 12.10 and my 12.04 home dir did not work with it so I am installing 12.04 again? I don't think my home dir is compatible with 4.9
[12:58] <Kovica> dougla: what did not work ?
[12:59] <dougla> login
[12:59] <dougla> screen would blank then the login screen would come back
[13:02] <dougla> using an old trick I learned from microsoft? format then install...
[13:02] <dougla> 12.04 grub failed to install
[13:03] <dougla> 11th time is a charm? lets install 12.04 completely now
[13:04] <BluesKaj> dougla, your homedir isn't compatible , how so ?
[13:04] <jbeatty> How is your home dir not compatible with 4.9? If your KDE settings are totally broken, you can just delete the one config folder
[13:04] <jbeatty> not like KDE is a real pain to configure
[13:05] <myounis> Hello everyone..  I'm M Younis and this is my first time in Kubuntu.. I've been using Linuxmint for more than a year now.. And  I think it's quite same like linuxmint KDE..
[13:05] <myounis> well I'll see about other differences as I use it for someitme..
[13:05] <BluesKaj> dougla, have you run sudo os-prober then sudo update-grub ?
[13:05] <myounis> I have some questions: The DVD I installed was about 3.27 GBs.. And when I launched firefox it asked me to install it..
[13:05] <jbeatty> However, the problem with the login screen going black then coming back is one I had in Arch a few months back. I didn't ever fix it (ended up using startx instead). Is this on an updated system?
[13:06] <jbeatty> myounis: Yes? Firefox isn't bundled, I don't think.
[13:06] <BluesKaj> myounis, only FF installer is packaged
[13:06] <myounis> if these kind of useful apps aren't bundled than what stuff consumed that 3.27 GBs??
[13:07] <jbeatty> Kubuntu doesn't bundle Firefox because we already have a web browser bundled.
[13:07] <myounis> which one??
[13:07] <jbeatty> Rekonq, I believe.
[13:07] <BluesKaj> rekonq
[13:07] <jbeatty> But you may prefer Firefox, which is why the installer is bundled (even if the program is not).
[13:07] <dougla> I don't understand enuff to explain what went wrong or what does not work? but I do the install with doug as user? sudo mv doug doug.install# then ln -s doug.kubuntu-12.04 doug and login and my good ole 12.04 and all its config is there? but not so with 12.10
[13:07] <BluesKaj> which is awful
[13:08] <jbeatty> At least it's WebKit.
[13:08] <myounis> Okay.. I'll just check it.. Thanks for the support jbeatty and BluesKaj
[13:09] <BluesKaj> maybe so jbeatty but itstill doesn't render a lot of sites properly , javascript problems for one
[13:09] <jbeatty> dougla: why are you doing all those commands? just keep a /home partition and mount it as /home
[13:09] <dougla> jbeatty, I do
[13:10] <BluesKaj> why all the moving your user
[13:10] <BluesKaj> dougla,^
[13:10] <myounis> is there any channel for Kubuntu general chat? Where people can ask questions that are not so important?
[13:10] <dougla> if I let linux just use my old home dir it will fek it up
[13:10] <BluesKaj> #kubuntu-offtopic
[13:10] <jbeatty> No it won't.
[13:11] <dougla> I believe IMO
[13:11] <BluesKaj> myounis,^
[13:11] <jbeatty> Just mount the /home partition as /home and let it do its work.
[13:11] <TOM_otakux> telepathy 0.0
[13:11] <dougla> been there done that
[13:11] <dougla> and yes it does
[13:11] <myounis> thanks BluesKaj :-)
[13:11] <jbeatty> Worst case scenario, you end up with incompatible configuration files.
[13:11] <jbeatty> So... delete them.
[13:12] <dougla> delete the configs I am trying to preserve?
[13:12] <jbeatty> If you want to use newer software, that is sometimes necessary.
[13:12] <jbeatty> If you don't want to use newer software, don't bother upgrading.
[13:12] <jbeatty> You can't have your cake and eat it too.
[13:12] <TOM_otakux> yes, i have the same problem for that XD
[13:12] <TOM_otakux> sometimes you need to remove the config
[13:12] <TOM_otakux> or remove rc
[13:12] <dougla> I don't? I want to use 12.04 and all its glory for 5 yrears or 3 or whatever it is
[13:13] <BluesKaj>  a / partition would solve your /home preservation
[13:13] <BluesKaj> dougla,^
[13:14] <dougla> BluesKaj, / = sda1 /home = sda6
[13:14] <dougla> been doing that for more than 10 years now
[13:14] <BluesKaj> dougla, then what are you worried about ?
[13:14] <jbeatty> >more than 10 years now
[13:14] <jbeatty> watch out, we've got a badass over here
[13:15] <dougla> lol - do I sound stressed? no worries, just chatting with you friends here.
[13:16] <BluesKaj> dougla, I don't understand your concern about your ~/
[13:17] <BluesKaj> btw sda6?
[13:19] <dougla> 12.04 home dir did not work with 12.10 install? and sda6 - I have no idea how that went down sda 1,2,3 one root one home and one swap is good for me (I may have been impaired)
[13:19] <dougla> BluesKaj, ^^^^
[13:20] <dougla> I am sober now tho
[13:21] <jbeatty> Your first sentence doesn't even make sense. The "home dir" doesn't work? Did we get a new FHS in the past six months?
[13:22] <dougla> I don't understand enuff to explain what went wrong or what does not work? but I do the install with doug as user? sudo mv doug doug.install# then ln -s doug.kubuntu-12.04 doug and login and my good ole 12.04 and all its config is there? but not so with 12.10
[13:22] <BluesKaj> dougla, ok , next time you do a clean install , reformat the whole drive with a new partition table ...that doesn't always work , the way it's supposed
[13:22] <xixor> Does anyone else find dolphin takes a while to load?  is there a way to pre-load it?  For example, windows explorer appears in the blink of an eye on windows 7, dolphin takes a few seconds to spool up for me on my machine
[13:23] <jbeatty> See, that's why I don't believe you're a ten year user. There is no justification for such shenanigans. If your configuration doesn't work, re-do it. If your /home partition doesn't work, you did something wrong: fix it.
[13:24] <dougla> BluesKaj, that is the plan? this partition scheme I have is leftover from gentoo if I remember corectly
[13:26] <yossarianuk> hi -I need help with compiling the ubuntu kernel - i.e kernel + ubuntu patches..  I know how to compile a kernel generally from  kernel.org (make-kpkg), and I know how to use git to do it .
[13:26] <yossarianuk> I would like to know how to compile via the linux-source-3.5.0 package....  I notice the kernel source is @ /usr/src/linux-source-3.5.0/linux-source-3.5.0.tar.bz2 - is this just the vinilla source ? what do I do with the debian/ + debian.master/ folders ? Do I use make-kpkg or the standard debian packaging commands
[13:26] <dougla> jbeatty, hmm - good thing I don't care what you believe or I may be offended? lets be friends
[13:28]  * dougla hates it when sentiment gets confused in a text only forum.
[13:28] <dougla> I am only here for the good company of good people.
[13:28] <BluesKaj> !kernel | yossarianuk
[13:29] <TOM_otakux> 0.0
[13:29] <yossarianuk> ubottu: cheers but I do want to - I want the oss snd modules which are not compiled in the ubuntu one.
[13:29] <TOM_otakux> i have see some ppa has 3.5.0-17
[13:30] <TOM_otakux> but i do not suggest you to use  in 12.04
[13:30] <yossarianuk> I also don;t mind spending the time to get that little speed increases/optimisations, etc
[13:30] <BluesKaj> yossarianuk, very few ppl compile their own kernels here
[13:30] <TOM_otakux> you can use the do-release-upgradeXD
[13:31] <TOM_otakux> i upgrade from 12.04
[13:31] <yossarianuk> I have compiled my own kernels for years....
[13:32] <yossarianuk> its not the issue with the kernel compiling but about the linux-source package and the way its built into deb
[13:32] <BluesKaj> !who | TOM_otakux,
[13:32] <BluesKaj> yossarianuk, why not find an oss deb file and install with dpkg?
[13:32] <dougla> yossarianuk, I have not for years but if I recall debian had an install process that could not be beat? compiling was the usual but the package install really made me happy
[13:33] <BluesKaj> yossarianuk, and why oss anyway , what
[13:34] <BluesKaj>  what's wrong wiuth alsa?
[13:34] <yossarianuk> its for some games....
[13:34] <yossarianuk> dplogin.com  for example
[13:34] <yossarianuk> sdl support is buggy, only oss really works...
[13:34] <BluesKaj> sorry not a gamer , have no clue what you mean'
[13:35] <yossarianuk> I know its going to be abandoned soon - but I also like optimising kernels to my cpu, changing to 1000Hz, etc as essentially its better for game imo , ands steam will be here soon.
[13:35] <BluesKaj> cpu-utils will do that , yossarianuk
[13:36] <yossarianuk> BluesKaj - not the CPU clock
[13:36] <yossarianuk> the kernel timer
[13:36] <yossarianuk> i.e -  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1244417
[13:37] <BluesKaj> oh lord , nm ...we don't provide support tfor hose kinds of questions here
[13:37] <yossarianuk> yeah my query was relating to the useage of the linux-source package
[13:39] <yossarianuk> any ideas where may be a good place to ask ? Its not a kernel issue its me not understanding the debian/ubuntu packaging?
[13:39] <BluesKaj> !dpkg | yossarianuk
[13:39] <BluesKaj> !apt-get
[13:40] <BluesKaj> yossarianuk, that should give you some insight ^
[13:42] <yossarianuk> cheers ... I think the info from the original link *may* help - cheers
[13:42] <yossarianuk> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile
[13:45] <BluesKaj> yossarianuk, you asked about package management and I like the disclaimer , that's exactly what I meant :)
[13:53] <dougla> BluesKaj, you still here - so my 12.04 home dir should work with a 12.10 install?
[13:54] <yossarianuk> dougla - in my experience yes
[13:54] <BluesKaj> dougla, yes absolutely
[13:54] <dougla> ok - will give it another try
[13:55] <BluesKaj> install the OS to /
[13:56] <dougla> yep / formated
[13:56] <BluesKaj> don't format /home of course
[13:56] <dougla> and /home not
[13:56] <BluesKaj> but make sure it's listed in the partition table in ubiquity
[13:57] <BluesKaj> marked as /home
[13:57] <BluesKaj> otherwise ubuquity will install the whole OS on /
[13:57] <BluesKaj> then it's real messy
[13:58] <BluesKaj> with 2 homr dirs
[13:58] <dougla> ubuquity is what you call it? righty-oh
[13:58] <BluesKaj> the installer
[13:59] <dougla> did the 2 home dirs before - that does get ugly? as it is my home partition is ugly enuff.
[13:59] <dougla> anaconda was one too
[14:00] <dougla> I never remember all the names? but debian naming after toystory characters was best
[14:01] <dougla> lordievader, yeah - hell of a wait after selecting 3rd party software screen.
[14:02]  * dougla puts butter on FruityPancakes 
[14:06] <dougla> BluesKaj, you still here...
[14:07] <dougla> had a hell of a time installing samba printers on 12.04 - very strange never did figer it out
[14:09] <BluesKaj> dougla, did you try the cups app/ system settings>printer config
[14:11] <dougla> BluesKaj, went thru system settings panel there? and clicked the windows option in the list went to browse and got an error about no smb shares found and another blurb about firewall and went down hill from there.
[14:12] <dougla> I'd have to check my chat logs to see exactly what happened me and SIR_Taco were plugging away at it
[14:13] <xixor> Does anyone here actually use kmail?
[14:13] <BluesKaj> dougla, you have to set the windows connected printers to share on the network in the MS windows printer properties
[14:13] <dougla> ended up samba would not install/config and something else the beer made me forget about.
[14:14] <dougla> BluesKaj, windows was config'd correctly? the other machines on the network could/can print to them
[14:14] <dispos> any can help me to install desktop software for blackberry via wine?
[14:14] <dougla> xixor, I use kmail
[14:15] <BluesKaj> xixor, yes for those who don't have it segfault ..I've not had much luck with kmail since 9.04
[14:16] <xixor> I haven't had any luck using it
[14:16] <BluesKaj> brb , gotta restartx
[14:16] <dougla> crap dont tell me kmail is broke in 12.10
[14:16] <dougla> is it?
[14:16] <FlameReaper-PC> Hmm
[14:17] <FlameReaper-PC> I have it running fine
[14:17] <dougla> whew
[14:17] <xixor> I lost all faith in kmail when it sent replies to my business emails from my personal account, even though I double, tripple, quadruple checked that it was set not too
[14:18] <dispos> brb, need some coffee
[14:22] <dougla> err waht drivers am I supposed to use for nvidia in 12.10?
[14:40] <dougla> I still cannot browse for my printers connected to my windows machine in my 12.10 install - any suggestions?
[14:41] <BluesKaj> dougla, do you have the homegroup set up
[14:41] <FruityPancakes> hey
[14:42] <dougl> hay
[14:42]  * dougl got 12.10 installed with 12.04 home dir :)
[14:43] <BluesKaj> dougl, it's notr a 12.04 home dir ..it's now a 12.10 home dir
[14:43] <FruityPancakes> i am confused, is there a big difference?
[14:43] <dougl> BluesKaj, my microsoft stuff you mean?
[14:43] <dougl> FruityPancakes, no diff... just me babbling.
[14:44] <BluesKaj> dougl, yes , your MS printers have to be configged to kubuntu in samba /network with homegroup like MSHome for eg
[14:45] <dougl> BluesKaj, my ms workgroup is 'workgroup' - lemme check the mac
[14:45] <dougl> err how do I install a 'synergy.deb' package again?
[14:46] <dougl> synergy-1.4.10-Linux-x86_64.deb
[14:46] <FruityPancakes> dougl, ah fair enough :p currently retrieving a ton of photos my mother deleted from her sdcard -_-
[14:48] <dougla> oops - brb
[14:51] <dougl> yeah - I dunno what is wrong with printing... I should get my notebook with 12.04 on it - see if I can print from there.
[14:53] <BluesKaj> dougl, do the windows pcs show up in home group on 12.10 , if so then try setting up from the print wizard in sys settings
[14:53] <uglyoldbob> what would prevent me from cding into a directory owned by me? I can ls the directory, but ls -la shows all ??? instead of permissions data
[14:57] <uglyoldbob> is there a way to check/validate the permissions of an entire hard drive partition?
[15:07] <sndsh93> hi
[15:08] <BluesKaj> uglyoldbob, in dolphin /home > file>proprties permissions
[15:11] <BluesKaj> uglyoldbob, or dolphin root>file>properties permissions
[15:19] <dougl> BluesKaj> dougl, do the windows pcs show up in home group on 12.10 , if so then try setting up from the print wizard in sys settings <- dougl> BluesKaj, I can see my winbox in dolphin = is that what you mean?
[15:22] <BluesKaj> no open system settings in the kmenu>computer , then printer config , then new printer , then windows printer via samba in list on the left
[15:22] <BluesKaj> dougl, ^
[15:25] <dougl> BluesKaj, ok - I am in the system settings panel... then where?
[15:26] <BluesKaj> printer configuration
[15:26] <dougl> ok I am in there with one option to 'click here to add printer'
[15:27] <BluesKaj> is tyhere a "new printer" button ?
[15:28] <dougl> yes that is the button = 'click here to add new printer'
[15:28] <BluesKaj> ok
[15:28] <dougl> click there?
[15:29]  * dougl feels bad for being so thick and clueless
[15:29] <Guest97122> Hello guys i have trouble with autohinting in kubutu12.10, cyrilic fonts in browser looks very ugly
[15:30] <BluesKaj> dougl, yes
[15:30] <Guest97122> how i can switch off autohinting in firefox?
[15:32] <dougl> BluesKaj, then have an authentication option with username and password input boxes and another box above that with a dimmed browse button beside it... and not sure what to do now
[15:32] <BluesKaj> Guest97122, try fireox>edit>preferences
[15:33] <Guest97122> BluesKaj Firefox use system fonts
[15:33] <BluesKaj> dougl, click the browse button to see if the windows printer shows up in the tree
[15:33] <dougl> BluesKaj, that is the thing... the browse button is dimmed and does not click
[15:33] <Guest97122> i'am trying change fonts in preferences not work
[15:34] <Guest97122> shit
[15:34] <dougl> crap
[15:34] <Guest97122> yeah crap
[15:35] <dougl> I offended someone yesterday for the sh?t word... just so ya know :)
[15:35] <lordievader> !language | Guest97122
[15:36] <dougl> there it is :)
[15:36] <Guest97122> пошел ты
[15:36] <BluesKaj> Guest97122, can we move on ?
[15:36] <lordievader> dougl: We all need te respect the guidelines.
[15:36] <Guest97122> sorry
[15:36] <dougl> absolutely - agreed
[15:38] <Guest97122> http://pixs.ru/showimage/snimok1png_8586371_6127500.png letter м  look
[15:40] <newkubuntu> hi
[15:40] <Guest97122> this is in all browser including rekonq
[15:41] <newkubuntu> the download speed in kubuntu is slow then other distros (or kubuntu's previous versions), how can i fix it?
[15:41] <BluesKaj> !ru | Guest97122
[15:42] <dougl> BluesKaj, did I lose you - that browse button is dimmed
[15:44] <thecaptain2000> hi, does anyone knows how to set up my kde box (4.9.2) as a wifi hotspot?
[15:44] <newkubuntu> no help for me!! :(
[15:44] <bazhang> !ics > thecaptain2000
[15:45] <bazhang> newkubuntu, download speed for what
[15:46] <thecaptain2000> what I need to do is the following, in my hotel room I have a wifi connection to the hotel lan. I have another usb wifi card and I would like to use it in order to access the network via my phone
[15:46] <newkubuntu> bazhang: like downloading during installaion of packages via apt, or download from other websites using firefox browser
[15:46] <thecaptain2000> bazhang: uh?
[15:46] <BluesKaj> dougl, make sure your printers and windows pcs are turned on and shared over your network
[15:47] <bazhang> newkubuntu, change mirrors is the first step
[15:47] <dougl> BluesKaj, I can print to them from my macs... that is a good indication they are working - right?
[15:48] <newkubuntu> bazhang: i am using main server on 12.10 and also on 12.04, but 12.04 is giving speed of around 450kb/sec but kubuntu 12.10 is giving speed of around 100kb/sec
[15:48] <BluesKaj> yes , sorry i have to go,  dougl ...there are others her who can probly help you
[15:48] <dougl> BluesKaj, no worries - you take care :)
[16:01] <mime_1111> hello ppl, when i try to open something in konqueror, it opens a new window instead of tab, and all is set as ''open in tab'' in options, help plz!!!
[16:07] <dougl> mime_1111, you don't like firefox? cuz I dont know much about konqueror
[16:07] <dougl> guess he does not like irc tho :)
[16:08] <xixor> cool.  Just installed kubuntu 12.10 in virtual box with a windows 7 host machine.  Got guest additions installed, have it running fullscreen across 3 monitors, bridged network adapter working... seems pretty cool
[16:09] <dougl> xixor, got a pic?
[16:10] <xixor> dougl: what, a screen shot?
[16:11] <dougl> a screen shot of 3 monitors? err - am I understanding?
[16:12] <ptomblin> I'm surprised it runs ok.  I tried to install OpenSuse on a VirtualBox on my linux box (when I was thinking of switching to KDE) and it was so incredibly slow that I almost gave up.  Somebody suggested I boot the live cd instead, and with full access to the hardware acceleration it was much better.
[16:14] <xixor> http://i.imgur.com/5usGf.png
[16:14] <xixor> oh, dougl left
[16:16] <xixor> dougl: http://i.imgur.com/5usGf.png
[16:17] <dougl> xixor, cool - but no wallpapers?
[16:18] <xixor> dougl: no
[16:18] <matteo_> ciao a tutti?
[16:18] <matteo_> come imposto kubuntu in italiano?
[16:19] <dougl> !it
[16:19] <dougl> is that italian?/
[16:19] <matteo_> yes
[16:19] <bazhang> yes
[16:19] <matteo_> I speak only a little english
[16:20] <xixor> dougl: I have no wallpaper, all desktop effects disabled... trying to keep it pretty minimal.  Lol.  The words minimal and kde do not belong in the same sentence
[16:21] <matteo_> how do I set kubuntu in Italian?
[16:29] <dougl> http://imgur.com/4KWvG there's my desktop
[16:30] <matteo_> thanks
[16:31] <Guest97122> dougl nice)
[16:33] <dougl> 2 kubunutu one winblows and one mac osx
[16:33] <Guest97122> matteo_ first you need choose italian in grub menu, and then choose italian then install a system
[16:34] <xixor> dougl: what are your machines specs and operating system setups on those 3 desktops?
[16:37] <arpan> hi
[16:37] <xixor> hi.
[16:37] <Guest97122> hello
[16:37] <arpan> kamoso is not working from default install on dell xps 1530
[16:37] <arpan> anyone facing similar issue?
[16:38] <arpan> any help/pointer?? thanks in advance!
[16:38] <Guest97122> try start in terminal maybe you can see error or something
[16:38] <dougl> xixor, asrock intel dual core 1.6 with win7,  asus dual core 2.3 with 12.10 (main linux) mac is asus quad core 3.0 with lion 10.7.5 and notebook is some piece of crap with 12.04 on it... all controlled with one keyboard via synergy
[16:39] <xixor> dougl: Cool.  Synergy looks great, but I've never used it.  Works fine for you?
[16:39] <jasonwert> Hello, before I updated to 12.10 my laptop's touchpad was detected to recognize 1 finger, but now it detects 3. That's all fine but now my cursor motion seems funky. Can someone tell me what they use for Min. & Max speed plus Acceleration Factor?
[16:39] <dougl> xixor, used it for years now and works great.
[16:39] <arpan> @Guest97122: trid that from konsole, but konsole doesn't show anything.. :?
[16:42] <arpan> lp 1069333
[16:42] <xixor> dougl: I tend to run different operating systems in VMs rather than have separate machines... I am trying to slowly reduce the amount of hardware I have
[16:44] <dougl> xixor, I get all the hand-me-downs at our house and have no patience for the VM's and really need the monitors to remember what I was doing.
[16:45] <dougl> well I still can't print from my linux boxes and don't want to waste another day being pissed off so I am gonna take a break...
[16:45] <dougl> talk to you folks later :)
[16:47] <xixor> dougl: lol, who needs to print these days anyway
[18:44] <keithzg> So wait, with the current "run Ubuntu on the Nexus 7" work being done, does that mean we'd be able to run Plasma Active?
[18:45] <keithzg> Surely someone's tried this by now, but a lazy google search has come up with nothing. Worse, I dropped my Nexus 7 tripping over a roommate's cat the other day, so I can't try this out myself!
[19:06] <BlaXpirit> Hello. In Kubuntu 12.10 I noticed that fonts have become much smaller. How can I get them back to how it was before?
[19:06] <bjrohan> I am having problems with my standard analog microphone input on my laptop. Is there anything special I need to install. i can get my USB camera/mix to respond with a signal
[19:08] <cuznt> how old is KDE 4.3.00 ?
[19:09] <BlaXpirit> very old... let me see
[19:09] <BlaXpirit> http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.3_Release_Schedule
[19:10] <BlaXpirit> 1.17 August 4th, 2009: Release KDE 4.3
[19:10] <cuznt> ty.. found an old hd and booted it up through my usb,
[19:13] <dougl> back now :P
[19:13] <BlaXpirit> any help w/ fonts?
[19:14] <dougl> BlaXpirit, no - not really but will listen if you want to complain about the change...
[19:15] <BlaXpirit> :/
[19:15] <dougl> sometimes chat inspires channel to jump in to figer things out.
[19:15] <dougl> lol
[19:16] <dougl> sometimes chat inspires channel to jump in to figer things out.
[19:16] <BlaXpirit> oh well. increased the DPI (I didn't know it was possible to set arbitrary values, not just 96, 120, etc)
[19:17] <BlaXpirit> everything else seems to be great
[19:18] <BlaXpirit> ah no
[19:18] <BlaXpirit> python-3.3 is broken -_-
[19:18] <dougl> you mean the font in xchat is smaller too... or is it my imagination?
[19:18] <BlaXpirit> i mean that font is smaller EVERYWHERE
[19:19] <BlaXpirit> even though the "pt" size is the same
[19:19] <BlaXpirit> aand you use xchat? D:
[19:19] <dougl> BlaXpirit, what is wrong with xchat... never used anything else
[19:19] <BlaXpirit> just that it's not KDE  :p
[19:20] <BlaXpirit> but yeah, i think i tried it once and didn't like
[19:21] <dougl> I guess I am not fussy as long as it looks good and I can have my cube and wobbly windows.
[19:21] <BlaXpirit> okay.
[19:50] <myounis> Hello everyone..
[19:50] <myounis> I can't find skype in t he softwares.. Can anyone help me with it?
[19:51] <myounis> is anybody home?????
[20:04] <dougl> yes - lol
[20:05] <dougl> SIR_Taco, I got it finally
[20:05] <dougl> BluesKaj, :)
[20:25] <ubuntu-user> Test Klick
[20:26] <BluesKaj> ubuntu-user, yes , it works :)
[20:29] <ubuntu-user> is my first time here
[20:30] <xixor> why does the menu that comes down from the desktop activity lag behind the mouse drunkenly?
[20:44] <dougl> why does my flux screensaver not work?
[20:47] <BluesKaj> dougl, flux screensaver ?
[20:57] <DarthFrog> Maybe the flux capacitor is baffed?
[20:59] <BluesKaj> DarthFrog, maybe the "back to the future" screensaver app isn't installed :)
[21:00] <DarthFrog> That could be it.  :-)
[21:04] <Guest17236> hi does anyone know how to make 12.10 use xorg.conf instead of whatever it now uses? It's just I am using nvidia-settings and proprietary driver which gives me a better visual and dual screen is better, but when I reboot it goes back to not working... thanks if anyone can please help
[21:05] <DarthFrog> Guest17236:  If /etc/X11/xorg.conf exists, it will over-ride.
[21:13] <dougl> LOL - you guys... flux screensaver I found it... I was just a clickin maniac in muon and now it works :)
[21:22] <xixor> dougl: what is flux screen saver?
[21:34] <xixor> so, I never really know how kubuntu works.  Will 12.10 release a new kernel?  or is it 3.5 for the life of the product?  Just curious
[21:36] <lordievader> xixor: No when the kernel has been updated a few days later it'll get in the repo.
[21:47] <xixor> lordievader: ok, coo
[21:49] <lordievader> xixor: LTS releases (12.04) have 5 years of support.
[21:49] <xixor> lordievader: Yes.  Support does not interest me at all though.  As soon as they release 13.04 I will jump to that
[21:50] <lordievader> xixor: Software/kernel updates are part of that support.
[21:52] <xixor> I am primarily more interested in having the latest flavour du jour of KDE apps, widgets, etc
[21:53] <xixor> know what I mean?
[21:53] <lordievader> xixor: Yes.
[22:24] <xixor> hello everybody
[22:25] <xixor> I am playing with linux.  What should I do next?
[22:29] <lordievader> xixor: What do you mean exactly?
[22:31] <xixor> lordievader: I'm just messing about with KDE, the desktop, etc.  Just playing, looking for software to try, things to configure, themes to apply or look at, etc
[22:31] <lordievader> xixor: Try the konsole, learn bash/bash-scripting!
[22:32] <xixor> lordievader: I've been using linux since 1997... bash scripting holds no interest for me anymore
[22:32] <lordievader> xixor: Ok, I though you were new to linux, my apologies.
[22:32] <xixor> I am a bit of a linux idiot though
[22:33] <xixor> things just don't come easy for me in linux sometimes.  I have fought with it for years
[22:35] <xixor> lordievader: I spent an hour last night trying to get kwin-gles to work for instance
[22:36] <lordievader> xixor: Things related to gfx are allways a pita in linux :(
[22:37] <xixor> lol, yes.  This has been pretty easy for me this time though... been using this fanless Nvidia GT240 GPU that is quite a few years old on this machine.  It is surpringly powerfull, I was able to play Skyrim on Windows with it for example, but it is old and vanilla enough that everything seemed to work out of the box with kubuntu 12.04 and 12.10
[22:38] <xixor> though, I just use the latest Nvidia binary blob, I don't mess around with Nouveau
[22:38] <lordievader> xixor: Then you are lucky!
[22:58] <xixor> lordievader: Yes... not updating hardware in a few years has it's advantages.  Still rocking an i7-920, 16Gb of ram.  Not a slow machine by any stretch
[23:03] <lordievader> xixor: Compared to my desktop that is a very fast machine.
[23:08] <xixor> oh yeah?
[23:10] <lordievader> xixor: It's an AMD X2@2.4GHz with 6Gb of ram.
[23:11] <lordievader> xixor: Have to mention though, it is not my main machine.
[23:13] <lordievader> I'm off to bed, bye.
[23:26] <BluesKaj> !me tv
[23:27] <BluesKaj> !me-tv
[23:28] <BluesKaj> h,,
[23:45] <oneadvent> my konsole locks when trying to hightlight text, sup wit that? 12.10 here
[23:49] <dougl> :)
[23:50] <oneadvent> idk sup wit it really
[23:50] <oneadvent> it is stupid annoying though