| xnox | barry: actual dictionary hash ordering build-failure: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-rebuilds/+archive/py3.3/+build/3929037 | 00:44 |
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| pitti | Good morning | 04:03 |
| pitti | cjwatson: congratulations and thanks for setting up the -proposed stuff! it's great to see this in action at last | 04:16 |
| pitti | apw: I subscribed you to bug 1070427, I asked a question about the kernel header provides/depends; that seems to break some cases ATM | 04:58 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1070427 in nvidia-graphics-drivers (Ubuntu) "fails to build due to missing kernel headers" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1070427 | 04:58 |
| ScottK | xnox: Is your python3 transition tracker updating? I see uploads from yesterday that aren't reflected. | 05:02 |
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| ScottK | xnox: How goes cmake? pykde4 is now waiting on it. | 05:43 |
| dholbach | good morning | 06:57 |
| fishor | hallo devs, i'm porting gnome-sound-recorder to gstreamer-1.0 and gtk3. My repository based on gnome-media with removed all deprecated parts. you can find it here https://gitorious.org/gsr/gnome-recorder/commits/master | 07:05 |
| fishor | my question, do it make sense to target it for 13.04? | 07:05 |
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| mvo | barry: I took the liberty to upload the fix for #846044 now that its part of the upstream git, just fyi | 08:03 |
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| dagoaty | I am trying to write a preinst script for a package that supports the 'backup' functionality. I think I have this working but as far as I can tell only the installer supports the backup feature. Is there any commandline mode for dpkg which I can use to test my script behaves correctly? | 10:08 |
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| infinity | @pilot in | 12:11 |
| === udevbot changed the topic of #ubuntu-devel to: Ubuntu 12.10 (Quantal Quetzal) released! | Archive: Frozen | Dev' of Ubuntu (not support or app devel) | build failures -> http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs/ | #ubuntu for support and dicussion of hardy -> quantal | #ubuntu-app-devel for app development on Ubuntu http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment | See #ubuntu-bugs for http://bit.ly/lv8soi | Patch Pilots: infinity, apw | ||
| * dholbach hugs infinity | 12:14 | |
| doko | Sweetshark, when do you plan the first libreoffice upload? | 12:30 |
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| Pjotr | Hello, I have a question about ufw. | 12:51 |
| Pjotr | Where can I find the default rules profile of ufw? | 12:51 |
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| Pjotr | mdeslaur: can you maybe tell me, which default rules profile ufw uses? | 13:05 |
| mdeslaur | Pjotr: jdstrand ^ | 13:06 |
| jdstrand | Pjotr: look in /etc/ufw/*rules. you can also do 'sudo ufw show raw' | 13:06 |
| jdstrand | (if it is enabled) | 13:06 |
| Pjotr | jdstrand: that doesn't show a lot of rules... Is the default profile secure enough for the average home user, or do you advise adding extra rules? | 13:11 |
| jdstrand | Pjotr: it is default deny. It is recommended for a home user, yes | 13:11 |
| Pjotr | jdstrand: would ufw with the default profile negatively affect samba or torrents? | 13:13 |
| jdstrand | Pjotr: the basic idea is that it is default deny for incoming. default allow with connection tracking for outgoing. it allows for things like dhcp and ping. it is a reasonable default but can be adjusted for your requirements | 13:13 |
| jdstrand | Pjotr: as a samba client, it shouldn't in recent releases. you would be able to fetch torrents, you'd have to open up a port to serve torrents | 13:14 |
| jdstrand | (you'd also have to open a port to serve clients) | 13:15 |
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| Pjotr | jdstrand: thanks for the information.... :-) For now, this answers my questions about ufw. | 13:17 |
| jdstrand | np | 13:18 |
| ttx | jml: been trying undistract-me, installed from PPA... but it does not seem to trigger. Only works once I do . /usr/share/undistract-me/long-running.bash && notify_when_long_running_commands_finish_install | 13:19 |
| jml | ttx: yeah. I've noticed that recently too | 13:20 |
| jml | ttx: I could swear it worked befoe | 13:20 |
| ttx | jml: I believe you ;) | 13:20 |
| ttx | only half as fun if it doesn't work though :P | 13:20 |
| jml | ttx: manually running '. /etc/profile.d/undistract-me.sh' works for me also | 13:20 |
| jml | ttx: I suspect it's due to some weird login shell interaction | 13:21 |
| ttx | jml: probably in the [ -z "$BASH_VERSION" -o -z "$PS1" -o -n "$last_command_started_cache" ] test | 13:22 |
| jml | perhaps | 13:23 |
| ttx | dmesg | 13:23 |
| ttx | oops | 13:23 |
| doko | jamespage, ping | 13:26 |
| jamespage | doko, pong | 13:26 |
| ttx | jml: can't see anything obvious, let me know if you find the solution :) | 13:32 |
| jml | ttx: will do. | 13:32 |
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| doko | barry, xnox: in the py3.3 test rebuild are about ~200 packages, slangasek identified ~500 which might be affected. there's a small difference | 13:51 |
| xnox | doko: 500 _binary_ packages that slangasek identified. | 13:52 |
| doko | ok, so once boost is fixed, we should be ready to change the default? | 13:52 |
| xnox | doko: more or less. (boost and it's python3-like rdeps) | 13:53 |
| barry | python-oauthlib is pretty important, but i'll look at that (unless a fix is already uploaded but not in the ppa yet) | 13:53 |
| barry | it needn't block the change though | 13:54 |
| xnox | barry: testsuite failures for pure-python modules do not block us to switch default. | 13:54 |
| xnox | barry: as e.g. python-oauthlib is installable with python3.3 as default. | 13:54 |
| barry | has anyone looked at ubiquity? | 13:54 |
| xnox | doko: do you have python3-defaults arch:all -> arch:any done? | 13:54 |
| xnox | barry: local build is fine. | 13:54 |
| barry | it only fails on amd64 | 13:55 |
| xnox | barry: ppa build "got killed" in the logs | 13:55 |
| barry | hung for 150m apparently | 13:56 |
| barry | in any case, doko i think we should do it | 13:56 |
| doko | xnox, yes, will remove the header symlink again | 13:58 |
| xnox | doko: ack. | 13:59 |
| doko | barry, xnox: ok, then I'll wait for the boost builds to succeed, and the make 3.3 the default (which might be tomorrow) | 14:00 |
| tsdgeos | is the "raring" part of the archive private on purpose? | 14:15 |
| micahg | tsdgeos: what do you mean? | 14:16 |
| tsdgeos | micahg: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/raring exists but gives 403 | 14:17 |
| tsdgeos | that's what i mean | 14:17 |
| micahg | wfm | 14:17 |
| tsdgeos | does it? | 14:17 |
| micahg | yep | 14:18 |
| yofel | wfm too | 14:18 |
| tsdgeos | you guys in copenhagen? | 14:18 |
| micahg | not yet | 14:19 |
| tsdgeos | well, i'm blaming the network somehow | 14:19 |
| tsdgeos | does not work from here, but works in a server i have somehere else | 14:19 |
| * yofel isn't going | 14:19 | |
| tsdgeos | and it works for you | 14:19 |
| tsdgeos | so obviously not a problem in the server | 14:19 |
| develop7 | Hello all. Is there any way to figure out which process handles particular keyboard shortcut? | 14:25 |
| develop7 | I'm going to fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/1064345 myself, but have virtually no clue where to start from. | 14:27 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1064345 in gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu) "Inconsistent behavior for some keyboard shortcuts: user is able to bind them, but pressing them does nothing" [Undecided,New] | 14:27 |
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| Sweetshark | doko: ASAP, which means once I get all 3.7 deps in place. | 14:55 |
| dagoaty | Is there any frontend to debconf I can use to test the 'backup' feature? I've only seen this working in the installer. | 15:04 |
| rbasak | pitti: is there an easy way to test an apport hook? It refuses to even --save against my test package because it is "not an official Ubuntu package" | 15:11 |
| rbasak | I haven't managed to find an option to do this anywhere, and there isn't any discussion of hook testing in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Apport/DeveloperHowTo :-( | 15:12 |
| barry | xnox: i think it's still worth having a discussion on 3.3/3.4. the actual decision will probably be a rubberstamp, but in the past such sessions have been very good at bringing up collateral issues to think about | 15:22 |
| xnox | barry: well currently it's scheduled in a strange place: clashes with building arm images, rapid archive bringup and a few other cool sessions for me =) | 15:23 |
| barry | xnox: complain to your track chair :) | 15:24 |
| barry | xnox: or make your participation essential and let the scheduler sort it out | 15:24 |
| * barry now goes to check his own schedule | 15:25 | |
| xnox | barry: actually that does nothing. you need to as track chair to special mark somebody "essential" in the summit. | 15:25 |
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| Laney | I don't know that it does absolutely nothing | 15:26 |
| Laney | but it's not a hard requirement like it appears | 15:26 |
| slangasek | xnox: right, are you sure it has *no* effect? | 15:26 |
| slangasek | all I know for sure is that there's an additional knob now | 15:27 |
| xnox | slangasek: can you please accept this one for uds-r sprint https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-r-upload-intermediary | 15:28 |
| xnox | slangasek: there is a session, but summit doesn't "know" the blueprint link. | 15:28 |
| xnox | although it's kind of done ?! | 15:29 |
| slangasek | xnox: "accept" it? That blueprint isn't marked as proposed for uds-r | 15:29 |
| slangasek | probably because cjwatson doesn't think we need to discuss it? :) | 15:29 |
| xnox | slangasek: I guess I got confused why it's linked from | 15:29 |
| xnox | http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-r/meeting/21333/archive-maintenance-software-hacking/ | 15:30 |
| slangasek | ahh, the url is there just as a reference | 15:30 |
| xnox | slangasek: this blueprint is still on the schedule http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-r/meeting/21074/foundations-r-landscape-fde/ | 15:31 |
| xnox | slangasek: but it was rejected from uds-r | 15:31 |
| * xnox twiddled the "subscriber vs essential" and I'll look how that will affect the scheduler next time it reruns ;-) | 15:32 | |
| Laney | hmm, yeah, quite a number of conflicts | 15:36 |
| rbasak | pitti: I found my answer by digging in the code. I can set APPORT_DISABLE_DISTRO_CHECK in the environment | 15:36 |
| rbasak | SpamapS, jamespage, adam_g: FYI ^^ | 15:37 |
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| jamespage | rbasak, nice | 15:37 |
| cjwatson | dagoaty: pretty much any old debconf frontend, including the default of "dialog", supports backup if your script says "db_capb backup". It is not at all installer-specific. | 15:39 |
| dagoaty | cjwatson: Odd, I only seem to get an OK prompt with dialog. | 16:00 |
| dagoaty | cjwatson: I even tried the example code at http://www.fifi.org/doc/debconf-doc/tutorial.html#AEN217 with no success | 16:02 |
| Snow-Man | what's w/ using sftp to upload to a ppa..? docs indicate using: incoming = ~sfrost/<ppa-name>/ubuntu, but I'm getting an error that launchpad couldn't find a PPA named 'postgis' (even tho I see it on the website..) | 16:04 |
| rbasak | Snow-Man: is that an email error? There's a known bug that the email error reports for upload failures name a random PPA that isn't yours | 16:06 |
| rbasak | Snow-Man: (but in that case the error might still be valid - it happens to me if I use the wrong path) | 16:06 |
| Snow-Man | rbasak: well, yes, I see the random PPA name, but in the body of the email it's saying "Could not find a PPA named 'postgis' for 'sfrost'.", even though when I go to: https://launchpad.net/~sfrost/+archive/ppa it says "postgis" at the top | 16:07 |
| * Snow-Man randomly tries stuff | 16:08 | |
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| Snow-Man | well, that's cute | 16:12 |
| Snow-Man | Source/binary (i.e. mixed) uploads are not allowed. | 16:12 |
| Necrosporus | Why there is no GUI option to disable advertising banner in software center? | 16:12 |
| Snow-Man | missed *that* in the docs.. | 16:12 |
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| ppetraki | I've got an upstart task that simply won't start. http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1307508/ | 16:20 |
| ppetraki | all the parts of the script run fine, put it in a task, fails | 16:20 |
| slangasek | ppetraki: do you have a /var/log/upstart/opengrok-index.log? | 16:24 |
| ppetraki | slangasek, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1307525/ | 16:25 |
| ppetraki | slangasek, but it all runs fine from the shell | 16:25 |
| slangasek | ppetraki: chances are there's something different in the upstart environment (which is mostly a blank slate) vs. the shell environment that makes the difference | 16:26 |
| ppetraki | slangasek, so im sourcing a bash script, and then calling the funcs, is that supported? | 16:27 |
| slangasek | ppetraki: oh, for one thing when you're sourcing that script at the commandline it's sourced by bash, and when you're running an upstart job the shell is /bin/sh == ash | 16:27 |
| ppetraki | that's got to be it | 16:27 |
| ppetraki | slangasek, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1307536/ confirmed | 16:27 |
| slangasek | ppetraki: yeah, so I think you want to put your script into a separate file with an explicit #!/bin/bash, and then put 'exec myscript' in the upstart job | 16:28 |
| ppetraki | slangasek, got it, thanks | 16:28 |
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| slangasek | Laney: you say you were seeing conflicts for sessions you were marked as 'participation essential' on? Can you give me an example? | 17:14 |
| slangasek | Laney: the scheduler seems to be doing an adequate job of warning me if p.e. subscribers have conflicts | 17:15 |
| Laney | slangasek: I don't think I have conflicts like that, just ones where I subscribed non-essential | 17:17 |
| Laney | should I expect doing that to influence the scheduler at all? | 17:17 |
| slangasek | Laney: ok - expected behavior :) | 17:17 |
| Laney | perhaps I'll have to upgrade some then | 17:17 |
| slangasek | yes, that's what the flag is there for! :-) | 17:18 |
| Laney | slangasek: also, how come https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-r-future-release-brainstorming got changed to declined? | 17:18 |
| slangasek | Laney: we believe it's covered by the combination of the release-schedule session and the quantal-feedback session | 17:19 |
| slangasek | http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-r/meeting/21405/foundations-r-schedule/ + http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-r/meeting/21047/foundations-r-prior-release-feedback/ | 17:20 |
| Laney | well, not if the latter is entirely backwards looking | 17:21 |
| slangasek | Laney: having an entirely backwards-looking session that doesn't result in actions for the future would not be a productive use of time :) | 17:22 |
| slangasek | are there specific things you think are not covered in the other two sessions, that would warrant a third? | 17:22 |
| Laney | I'll just distribute the topics from the whiteboard | 17:23 |
| Snow-Man | c | 18:20 |
| Snow-Man | erp | 18:20 |
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| jelmer | /query barry | 22:28 |
| jelmer | whoops | 22:29 |
| jelmer | hi barry :) | 22:29 |
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| xnox | fgrep changed?! http://paste.ubuntu.com/1308437/ | 23:36 |
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