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thafreakawe...I missed oda?13:21
thafreakpaultag: i have no idea about the release party...and it was a KSU thing, not really Akron13:30
paultagah, kent13:30
paultagsorry13:30
thafreakI emailed the acm person who posted to the mailinglist announcing it13:30
paultagrockn'13:30
thafreakI asked if any of them are involved in the ohio loco13:30
thafreakhe didn't reply...he instead forwarded my email to the acm maillinglist13:31
thafreakso...i take that as a he has no clue13:31
thafreakwell...I'm running late...still gotta get cleaned up and ready to drive 45 minutes to work... :/13:32
thafreakactually going in to work today, not just working from home13:32
thafreakfriday is go out to lunch with the CS sys admin staff day...13:33
thafreakbbl13:33
thafreakoda you sneaky b-tard15:02
paultag\o/15:03
thafreakdovecot is pretty awesome15:08
thafreakjust way too many options...makes your head spin15:08
canthus13dovecot's not bad. Postfix, though...15:08
* canthus13 cringes.15:08
thafreakprobably why the ubuntu server folks made a special package to auto-configure dovecot and postfix for you15:08
thafreakpostfix is awesome...REALLY powerful...but yeah, similarly, WAY too many options15:09
thafreakhas taken me years to not cringe...and I'm far from being a master at postfix15:09
canthus13It's not the options that bug me. it's the convincing postfix to accept mail from anywhere but it's own server that bugs me.15:09
thafreakand I've spent quite possibly hundreds of hours researching postfix over the last 5 years15:09
thafreakthat's easy stuff :)15:10
thafreakwell15:10
canthus13:P15:10
thafreaknot "easy"15:10
thafreakcause there's like 3-5 ways to do it15:10
thafreakand it depends on what you want to do15:10
thafreakbut yeah15:10
thafreak:)15:10
thafreaklike have it accept mail for other domains, and deliver it locally? Or pass it along? What were you having trouble with15:11
thafreakI was a paid postfix consultant at on point :-P15:11
thafreakhad one company pay us just to have me research and design a HA mail cluster for them...15:12
thafreakI think I pushed dbmail though...15:12
thafreakwouldn't make that mistake again :(15:12
* thafreak is currently fighting with dbmail15:12
thafreakwell version 3...imapd has some memory leak issues15:13
thafreakcrap...speaking of which...need to restart a dbmail imapd server...brb15:13
thafreakhuh...it's only using 26% of ram...i figured it'd be over 40% by now...15:14
thafreakprobably will be by lunch time15:14
thafreakhmm...so looks like I might be teaching at KSU again...20:23
thafreakCS will finally be getting funds to hire part-timers...20:23
thafreakthe new "school of digital sciences" doesn't have enough electives I guess20:23
dniMretsaM"school of digital sciences"? lol20:26
thafreakYes20:27
thafreakdon't laugh20:27
thafreakit's the hottest thing...20:27
thafreakit's like all things tech mashed together into a separate school20:27
thafreakyou can get a masters degree in digital sciences20:27
thafreakthe classes come from like 5 or 6 different areas including the school of technology, management info sys, computer science, educational tech, and the knowledge management stuff from the library people20:28
dniMretsaMgee20:29
thafreakhad i to do it all over, I may have gone for a MS in digital sciences instead of computer science20:29
dniMretsaMgeez*20:29
thafreakyeah...you can kind of make your own program too20:30
dniMretsaMI'm planning on a bachelors in CS (or software development) and a masters in software engineering20:30
thafreakthere are concentrations like networking and some business buzzword that all the big IT companies (oracle, etc) are hot for20:30
dniMretsaMbuzzwords. ugh20:31
thafreaki forget...look on www.kent.edu for digital sciences if you really care :)20:31
thafreakyeah...but these are the really high paying job type buzzwords20:31
thafreakwhich is what incoming freshman want to hear20:31
dniMretsaMI'm not really interested in going to Kent20:32
dniMretsaMwell, really-high20:33
dniMretsaM-paying-job buzzwords ftw20:33
thafreakhaha, don't worry, you won't offend me20:35
thafreakI'd probably not go to kent either20:35
thafreakshh...don't tell anyone I said that....20:35
thafreakI'm supposed to be an "ambassador of good will"...lol20:36
dniMretsaMyeah, that'll happen20:36
dniMretsaMlol20:36
thafreakI'd probably not go anywhere in NEO though20:36
thafreakmaybe case....but probably only because I know nothing of their CS program20:36
thafreakif I actually met their profs, I may not even say them :)20:37
dniMretsaMI want to go to a Christian college, a lot of which are in the south.20:37
dniMretsaMI thought about carnegie mellon, but it's too expensive20:38
dzhoalso, not so Christian20:38
dniMretsaMtrue20:41
dniMretsaMthat was the about the only non-Christian college I seriously considered20:41
dzhothey probably accept evolution, and that the earth is old and stuff ;)20:42
dniMretsaMI'm sure they do20:45
dzhowell, most of 'em.  You get your outliers in every crowd.20:46
dniMretsaMindeed20:48
dniMretsaMthe meeting is next Thursday at 20:00, right?20:50
gilbertpaultag: not sure if you're watching -devel, but old foggies hit my enrage timer23:54
paultaggilbert: I am, and I've been keeping up with your emails23:55
paultaggilbert: although, I sent bartm ragey emails because of his subject line nonsense23:55
paultagI love this flame :)23:55
gilbertpaultag: yeah, that was kind of rediculous23:55
paultaggilbert: I sent mail with the subject of Re: [SUMMARY/PROPOSAL] Orphaning another maintainer's packages - don't change the subject line for every reply plox23:56
paultagand every time he started a new one I just posted him back saying "stop"23:56
gilberthaha, nice :)23:56
gilbertyeah, i found my inbox overload with that crap this morning23:57
paultagtotally.23:57
gilbertso am i crazy to keep fighting?23:57
paultaggilbert: no way.23:57
gilbertcool23:57
gilbertanyway, i was pretty pissed on the last message, but erased a lot to keep it toned down...but that last paragraph is still pretty pointy23:58
paultagI don't know with whom I agree, ubt it's way too complecated as is23:59
paultaggilbert: yeah totally.23:59
paultaggilbert: you were in control23:59
paultagseemed fine to mee23:59
paultag(put up or shut up sorta thing, which is fine)23:59
gilbertwell, i'm effectively saying "old foggies stop trying to control everything"23:59

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