=== Acer_ is now known as oda === oda is now known as oda_ [04:02] #$$%^ $$%^% &%$#@! [13:21] awe...I missed oda? [13:30] paultag: i have no idea about the release party...and it was a KSU thing, not really Akron [13:30] ah, kent [13:30] sorry [13:30] I emailed the acm person who posted to the mailinglist announcing it [13:30] rockn' [13:30] I asked if any of them are involved in the ohio loco [13:31] he didn't reply...he instead forwarded my email to the acm maillinglist [13:31] so...i take that as a he has no clue [13:32] well...I'm running late...still gotta get cleaned up and ready to drive 45 minutes to work... :/ [13:32] actually going in to work today, not just working from home [13:33] friday is go out to lunch with the CS sys admin staff day... [13:33] bbl [15:02] oda you sneaky b-tard [15:03] \o/ [15:08] dovecot is pretty awesome [15:08] just way too many options...makes your head spin [15:08] dovecot's not bad. Postfix, though... [15:08] * canthus13 cringes. [15:08] probably why the ubuntu server folks made a special package to auto-configure dovecot and postfix for you [15:09] postfix is awesome...REALLY powerful...but yeah, similarly, WAY too many options [15:09] has taken me years to not cringe...and I'm far from being a master at postfix [15:09] It's not the options that bug me. it's the convincing postfix to accept mail from anywhere but it's own server that bugs me. [15:09] and I've spent quite possibly hundreds of hours researching postfix over the last 5 years [15:10] that's easy stuff :) [15:10] well [15:10] :P [15:10] not "easy" [15:10] cause there's like 3-5 ways to do it [15:10] and it depends on what you want to do [15:10] but yeah [15:10] :) [15:11] like have it accept mail for other domains, and deliver it locally? Or pass it along? What were you having trouble with [15:11] I was a paid postfix consultant at on point :-P [15:12] had one company pay us just to have me research and design a HA mail cluster for them... [15:12] I think I pushed dbmail though... [15:12] wouldn't make that mistake again :( [15:12] * thafreak is currently fighting with dbmail [15:13] well version 3...imapd has some memory leak issues [15:13] crap...speaking of which...need to restart a dbmail imapd server...brb [15:14] huh...it's only using 26% of ram...i figured it'd be over 40% by now... [15:14] probably will be by lunch time [20:23] hmm...so looks like I might be teaching at KSU again... [20:23] CS will finally be getting funds to hire part-timers... [20:23] the new "school of digital sciences" doesn't have enough electives I guess [20:26] "school of digital sciences"? lol [20:27] Yes [20:27] don't laugh [20:27] it's the hottest thing... [20:27] it's like all things tech mashed together into a separate school [20:27] you can get a masters degree in digital sciences [20:28] the classes come from like 5 or 6 different areas including the school of technology, management info sys, computer science, educational tech, and the knowledge management stuff from the library people [20:29] gee [20:29] had i to do it all over, I may have gone for a MS in digital sciences instead of computer science [20:29] geez* [20:30] yeah...you can kind of make your own program too [20:30] I'm planning on a bachelors in CS (or software development) and a masters in software engineering [20:30] there are concentrations like networking and some business buzzword that all the big IT companies (oracle, etc) are hot for [20:31] buzzwords. ugh [20:31] i forget...look on www.kent.edu for digital sciences if you really care :) [20:31] yeah...but these are the really high paying job type buzzwords [20:31] which is what incoming freshman want to hear [20:32] I'm not really interested in going to Kent [20:33] well, really-high [20:33] -paying-job buzzwords ftw [20:35] haha, don't worry, you won't offend me [20:35] I'd probably not go to kent either [20:35] shh...don't tell anyone I said that.... [20:36] I'm supposed to be an "ambassador of good will"...lol [20:36] yeah, that'll happen [20:36] lol [20:36] I'd probably not go anywhere in NEO though [20:36] maybe case....but probably only because I know nothing of their CS program [20:37] if I actually met their profs, I may not even say them :) [20:37] I want to go to a Christian college, a lot of which are in the south. [20:38] I thought about carnegie mellon, but it's too expensive [20:38] also, not so Christian [20:41] true [20:41] that was the about the only non-Christian college I seriously considered [20:42] they probably accept evolution, and that the earth is old and stuff ;) [20:45] I'm sure they do [20:46] well, most of 'em. You get your outliers in every crowd. [20:48] indeed [20:50] the meeting is next Thursday at 20:00, right? [23:54] paultag: not sure if you're watching -devel, but old foggies hit my enrage timer [23:55] gilbert: I am, and I've been keeping up with your emails [23:55] gilbert: although, I sent bartm ragey emails because of his subject line nonsense [23:55] I love this flame :) [23:55] paultag: yeah, that was kind of rediculous [23:56] gilbert: I sent mail with the subject of Re: [SUMMARY/PROPOSAL] Orphaning another maintainer's packages - don't change the subject line for every reply plox [23:56] and every time he started a new one I just posted him back saying "stop" [23:56] haha, nice :) [23:57] yeah, i found my inbox overload with that crap this morning [23:57] totally. [23:57] so am i crazy to keep fighting? [23:57] gilbert: no way. [23:57] cool [23:58] anyway, i was pretty pissed on the last message, but erased a lot to keep it toned down...but that last paragraph is still pretty pointy [23:59] I don't know with whom I agree, ubt it's way too complecated as is [23:59] gilbert: yeah totally. [23:59] gilbert: you were in control [23:59] seemed fine to mee [23:59] (put up or shut up sorta thing, which is fine) [23:59] well, i'm effectively saying "old foggies stop trying to control everything"