[04:02] <oda_> #$$%^    $$%^%   &%$#@!
[13:21] <thafreak> awe...I missed oda?
[13:30] <thafreak> paultag: i have no idea about the release party...and it was a KSU thing, not really Akron
[13:30] <paultag> ah, kent
[13:30] <paultag> sorry
[13:30] <thafreak> I emailed the acm person who posted to the mailinglist announcing it
[13:30] <paultag> rockn'
[13:30] <thafreak> I asked if any of them are involved in the ohio loco
[13:31] <thafreak> he didn't reply...he instead forwarded my email to the acm maillinglist
[13:31] <thafreak> so...i take that as a he has no clue
[13:32] <thafreak> well...I'm running late...still gotta get cleaned up and ready to drive 45 minutes to work... :/
[13:32] <thafreak> actually going in to work today, not just working from home
[13:33] <thafreak> friday is go out to lunch with the CS sys admin staff day...
[13:33] <thafreak> bbl
[15:02] <thafreak> oda you sneaky b-tard
[15:03] <paultag> \o/
[15:08] <thafreak> dovecot is pretty awesome
[15:08] <thafreak> just way too many options...makes your head spin
[15:08] <canthus13> dovecot's not bad. Postfix, though...
[15:08]  * canthus13 cringes.
[15:08] <thafreak> probably why the ubuntu server folks made a special package to auto-configure dovecot and postfix for you
[15:09] <thafreak> postfix is awesome...REALLY powerful...but yeah, similarly, WAY too many options
[15:09] <thafreak> has taken me years to not cringe...and I'm far from being a master at postfix
[15:09] <canthus13> It's not the options that bug me. it's the convincing postfix to accept mail from anywhere but it's own server that bugs me.
[15:09] <thafreak> and I've spent quite possibly hundreds of hours researching postfix over the last 5 years
[15:10] <thafreak> that's easy stuff :)
[15:10] <thafreak> well
[15:10] <canthus13> :P
[15:10] <thafreak> not "easy"
[15:10] <thafreak> cause there's like 3-5 ways to do it
[15:10] <thafreak> and it depends on what you want to do
[15:10] <thafreak> but yeah
[15:10] <thafreak> :)
[15:11] <thafreak> like have it accept mail for other domains, and deliver it locally? Or pass it along? What were you having trouble with
[15:11] <thafreak> I was a paid postfix consultant at on point :-P
[15:12] <thafreak> had one company pay us just to have me research and design a HA mail cluster for them...
[15:12] <thafreak> I think I pushed dbmail though...
[15:12] <thafreak> wouldn't make that mistake again :(
[15:12]  * thafreak is currently fighting with dbmail
[15:13] <thafreak> well version 3...imapd has some memory leak issues
[15:13] <thafreak> crap...speaking of which...need to restart a dbmail imapd server...brb
[15:14] <thafreak> huh...it's only using 26% of ram...i figured it'd be over 40% by now...
[15:14] <thafreak> probably will be by lunch time
[20:23] <thafreak> hmm...so looks like I might be teaching at KSU again...
[20:23] <thafreak> CS will finally be getting funds to hire part-timers...
[20:23] <thafreak> the new "school of digital sciences" doesn't have enough electives I guess
[20:26] <dniMretsaM> "school of digital sciences"? lol
[20:27] <thafreak> Yes
[20:27] <thafreak> don't laugh
[20:27] <thafreak> it's the hottest thing...
[20:27] <thafreak> it's like all things tech mashed together into a separate school
[20:27] <thafreak> you can get a masters degree in digital sciences
[20:28] <thafreak> the classes come from like 5 or 6 different areas including the school of technology, management info sys, computer science, educational tech, and the knowledge management stuff from the library people
[20:29] <dniMretsaM> gee
[20:29] <thafreak> had i to do it all over, I may have gone for a MS in digital sciences instead of computer science
[20:29] <dniMretsaM> geez*
[20:30] <thafreak> yeah...you can kind of make your own program too
[20:30] <dniMretsaM> I'm planning on a bachelors in CS (or software development) and a masters in software engineering
[20:30] <thafreak> there are concentrations like networking and some business buzzword that all the big IT companies (oracle, etc) are hot for
[20:31] <dniMretsaM> buzzwords. ugh
[20:31] <thafreak> i forget...look on www.kent.edu for digital sciences if you really care :)
[20:31] <thafreak> yeah...but these are the really high paying job type buzzwords
[20:31] <thafreak> which is what incoming freshman want to hear
[20:32] <dniMretsaM> I'm not really interested in going to Kent
[20:33] <dniMretsaM> well, really-high
[20:33] <dniMretsaM> -paying-job buzzwords ftw
[20:35] <thafreak> haha, don't worry, you won't offend me
[20:35] <thafreak> I'd probably not go to kent either
[20:35] <thafreak> shh...don't tell anyone I said that....
[20:36] <thafreak> I'm supposed to be an "ambassador of good will"...lol
[20:36] <dniMretsaM> yeah, that'll happen
[20:36] <dniMretsaM> lol
[20:36] <thafreak> I'd probably not go anywhere in NEO though
[20:36] <thafreak> maybe case....but probably only because I know nothing of their CS program
[20:37] <thafreak> if I actually met their profs, I may not even say them :)
[20:37] <dniMretsaM> I want to go to a Christian college, a lot of which are in the south.
[20:38] <dniMretsaM> I thought about carnegie mellon, but it's too expensive
[20:38] <dzho> also, not so Christian
[20:41] <dniMretsaM> true
[20:41] <dniMretsaM> that was the about the only non-Christian college I seriously considered
[20:42] <dzho> they probably accept evolution, and that the earth is old and stuff ;)
[20:45] <dniMretsaM> I'm sure they do
[20:46] <dzho> well, most of 'em.  You get your outliers in every crowd.
[20:48] <dniMretsaM> indeed
[20:50] <dniMretsaM> the meeting is next Thursday at 20:00, right?
[23:54] <gilbert> paultag: not sure if you're watching -devel, but old foggies hit my enrage timer
[23:55] <paultag> gilbert: I am, and I've been keeping up with your emails
[23:55] <paultag> gilbert: although, I sent bartm ragey emails because of his subject line nonsense
[23:55] <paultag> I love this flame :)
[23:55] <gilbert> paultag: yeah, that was kind of rediculous
[23:56] <paultag> gilbert: I sent mail with the subject of Re: [SUMMARY/PROPOSAL] Orphaning another maintainer's packages - don't change the subject line for every reply plox
[23:56] <paultag> and every time he started a new one I just posted him back saying "stop"
[23:56] <gilbert> haha, nice :)
[23:57] <gilbert> yeah, i found my inbox overload with that crap this morning
[23:57] <paultag> totally.
[23:57] <gilbert> so am i crazy to keep fighting?
[23:57] <paultag> gilbert: no way.
[23:57] <gilbert> cool
[23:58] <gilbert> anyway, i was pretty pissed on the last message, but erased a lot to keep it toned down...but that last paragraph is still pretty pointy
[23:59] <paultag> I don't know with whom I agree, ubt it's way too complecated as is
[23:59] <paultag> gilbert: yeah totally.
[23:59] <paultag> gilbert: you were in control
[23:59] <paultag> seemed fine to mee
[23:59] <paultag> (put up or shut up sorta thing, which is fine)
[23:59] <gilbert> well, i'm effectively saying "old foggies stop trying to control everything"