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nuvolario/ morning05:53
magespawnmorning and the worms go to nuvolari 06:09
Maazmagespawn: By the way, Kilos on freenode told me "tell magespawn There is a thing called grub-rescue-pc in the repos you cant put on stiffy or cd, maybe onna stick as well" 12 hours, 39 minutes and 5 seconds ago06:09
magespawnMaaz tell Kilos thank you06:11
Maazmagespawn: Okay, I'll tell Kilos on freenode06:11
Squirmmorning06:15
KilosMmorning superfly and others06:30
superflymorning magespawn, Squirm, KilosM06:55
KilosMhehe im like that guy Lucas in Full Circle magazine06:59
KilosMbreaks his system so often he has learned how to fix it06:59
KilosMall good superfly ?07:00
Squirmmorning KilosM, superfly 07:24
SquirmKilosM: I was working last night07:24
Squirmthat's why I was quiet07:24
KilosMah ok Squirm 07:24
sakhiMorning07:35
KilosMhi sakhi Tonberry 07:49
magespawnwhats up ubuntu-za peeps?07:53
KilosMhey magespawn 07:53
KilosMhey you clever guys, how come my kde usb shows its 2 gig when the original iso is 173.3mB07:57
KilosM733mB07:59
bakumanMisdirection and magic O_O08:01
magespawnsounds like the file got corrupted, did you run the checksum?08:01
inetprogood morning08:01
magespawnmorning inetpro08:01
inetproKilosM: thanks for reminding me of  the Full Circle magazine08:02
KilosMyw inetpro 08:02
KilosMall 20 meg of it08:02
inetprohaven't read it for some time08:02
inetproyeah it's massive08:02
inetproshould actually print it out on a color printer and leave it on the coffee table08:03
KilosMlol thats a good idea08:03
KilosMim sure when i installed esword on winsucks a bible was like 5mB08:04
KilosMmaybe i forget08:04
inetproKilosM: that's because it's just plain text08:05
KilosMya but so much plain text08:06
KilosMmaverick is fixed inetpro im very happy08:06
inetpronice!08:06
inetproso you planning to break it again?08:06
KilosMweird and wonderful things happen on this pc08:06
KilosMafter a few boot-repairs bios didnt see it so tried swopping power leads with cdrom and there it is08:07
KilosMi dunno if the mb can switch the different leads on/off individually or what08:08
magespawnshouldn't08:08
KilosMweird because drive and cdrom work so what did switching leads actually do08:09
magespawnmaybe it was just lose08:10
KilosMive closed the connectors on all leadsa while back so they go in firmly.08:11
magespawnhad 25000 plus contacts in my thunderbird address book after removing dupilcates 8108:11
magespawnmaybe a faulty power supply08:11
KilosMbut struggled to get things working when i got it from nuvo as well 08:12
KilosMthats what im thinking magespawn but normally they pack up good not intermittent like this08:12
magespawnwhat is the static electricity like there?08:13
KilosMoh thats normally quite high here in the tvl when its dry but we have had rain on and off for weeks08:13
KilosMsometimes when you try open car door you spark08:14
KilosMnot often though08:14
magespawnstray static can work havoc with a computer08:14
KilosMi looked at that boot-repair-cd download 355mB08:15
KilosMwhew08:15
magespawnstill no sure where all those extra contacts came from and ditto for the other 2 address books, wierd08:15
magespawnKilosM: so almost a full os then08:16
KilosMi dunno how that can be though. because when you download and install its small08:16
KilosMmaybe i looked wrong place08:17
magespawnmaybe that is the live cd version08:17
KilosMwas at launchpad i think08:18
magespawngotta go out for bit bbl08:19
KilosMgo safe08:20
KilosKsigh havent been on kde for 3 days09:28
KilosKMaaz, coffee on09:30
* Maaz flips the salt-timer09:30
KilosKoh ya no sounds in irc09:33
KilosKgrrr09:33
MaazCoffee's ready for KilosK!09:34
KilosKMaaz, ty09:35
MaazYou are welcome KilosK09:35
inetproKilosK: no sounds at all or no sounds of your choice?09:36
inetproKilosK: last time id understood that quassel has sound but not the one you wanted09:37
KilosKquassel only has sound if im not here09:38
KilosKlike unfocussed i think its called09:38
magespawninetpro what to do when the hosting compnay only uses ftp?10:50
Symmetriahrm, dammit, Im being forgetful, whats the name of the guy that comes in here from uwc all the time10:55
inetpromagespawn: a huge lot of them still do10:56
confluencymagespawn: cry.10:57
Symmetriastarts with an s10:57
Symmetriaand for the life of me I cant remeber his nick :)10:57
inetpronot a lot you can do other than making them aware that FTP should die10:57
magespawnlol10:57
magespawnokay then10:57
inetproMaaz: ftp10:58
MaazDump FTP! http://www.43folders.com/2008/07/14/dump-ftp see also: FTP must Die!! http://mywiki.wooledge.org/FtpMustDie10:58
magespawncan you support both at the same time10:58
inetpromagespawn: ^^10:58
magespawn?10:58
inetproboth?10:58
magespawnftp and sftp10:59
magespawnor ftp and ftps10:59
inetpromagespawn: sftp uses ssh port 2211:00
inetproftp uses port 20 and 2111:00
Symmetriaaahh its sakhi11:00
inetproso yes they can live together11:00
Symmetriadoes anyone happen to have his contact details?11:00
magespawnso you can run both on the same server 11:00
inetproSymmetria: not me11:01
magespawnSymmetria: is not on the list?11:01
inetpromagespawn: yes11:01
inetpromagespawn: but FTP must die!!!11:01
magespawnthen why do people not want to change?11:01
magespawnthinking from a migration point of view11:02
inetpromagespawn: because people don't like change11:02
confluencyBecause people are lazy and want to stick to what worked for their grandparents. :P11:02
inetpromagespawn: and that ^^11:02
inetprothanks confluency11:02
magespawnthen we would all still be living in cave smacking our dinner with a club, or maybe we would not have got that far11:03
magespawncave <a> smacking11:03
magespawntypo ru;les tofay11:04
confluencyI suspect that there is also a perception that FTP is "more secure" because it allows the user to do an extremely limited set of things, whereas shell access is "more dangerous" because it's more powerful.  Which is pretty stupid.11:04
inetpromagespawn: FTP is an outdated, insecure, slow and unfriendly pig of a protocol. It has no business being on the Internet in the 21st century.  11:04
inetproFTP MUST DIE!11:04
confluencyI will never willingly use FTP-only hosting again; I would rather stab myself in the face with a fork.11:04
Symmetriamagespawn see message :)11:05
magespawnwhat the server is set up for is surely up to the company11:07
magespawnit is truly bazzar to me that companies that make their money from the internet still insist on using insecure methods for hosting and email11:09
confluencyIt's an entrenched standard; it's just a really bad one.  Why do so many companies still insist on using IE?11:10
confluencyI think you mean "bizarre". ;)11:10
magespawnthat too11:12
magespawnpop with unsecure authentication11:12
inetpromagespawn: pop is by no means the only problem with email12:04
magespawnno indeed just the one i run into the most12:24
Kilosty for what magespawn 12:28
Kilos?12:28
magespawnthe message you left for me with Maaz12:29
Kilospower disappeared here twhen i got ups disconnected to fit connectors for ext battery12:29
Kiloswhew12:29
Kilosoh that12:30
Kilosmaybe we can look into that as well some time12:30
Kilosweird that boot-repair-cd is so big. boot-repair installs on your pc with 2m download12:32
magespawnlike i said i am pretty sure that is because it will run on its own12:33
magespawnala live cd style12:34
Kiloshehe12:36
Kiloswill get it with next months night surfer data methinks12:36
Kilosthis using one drive to boot-repair a second then booting into the second and starting boot-repair and quickly pulling power off drive one is a schlep12:37
magespawni dont think most people would even thnik to try that Kilos12:39
Kilosif you dont disconnect drive 1 then you cant take drive 2 to another pc12:41
Kilosalways wants to see drive1 as the boot boss12:41
magespawnfish 1 has a school project that to involve a pivot, levers and effort12:43
magespawnso we have dcided to build oneof these http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trebuchet12:44
Kilosseesaw wise12:44
Kiloslol you wanna make war12:44
magespawnyes that could be done 12:45
magespawnsomething like that yes12:45
Kilosthem things are siege weapons to break down castle walls12:45
Kilosremind me monday morning early the power cutting from 8am for the day whoever is here early and can memmber that please12:51
magespawnwill do Kilos13:01
Symmetriahttp://www.iol.co.za/news/crime-courts/cop-accidentally-shoots-himself-in-head-1.1412033#.UIqMesVllIk13:14
Symmetriawtf13:14
Symmetriathat sounds like an out and out suicide13:14
zereftitle says it all :P13:37
zerefexcept for the accidentally part13:38
zerefbtw, why does windows release so many versions of the same OS, eg: starter,home basic,professional,enteprise,ultimate???13:39
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Guest30134Bloody helllllllllll why does none of my mobile devices ever identify properly13:49
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magespawnzeref: all in the name of making money13:57
magespawnfor some afternoon fun http://www.globalspec.com/trebuchet/13:57
Symmetriahrm14:01
Symmetriadammit, I cant find contact details for sakhi anywhere14:01
magespawnfor those python people http://xkcd.com/413/14:12
zerefmagespawn: have you tried pygame?14:13
magespawnnope14:14
Kiloszeref, so poorer peeps can also afford to get windows14:15
Symmetriaheh14:15
Kilosprice the ultimate dvd14:15
SymmetriaIm debating going windows 814:15
KilosSymmetria, ask the fly, he tried it14:15
Kilostook forever to download for starters14:15
magespawnthey have not even got the kinks out of 7 yet14:16
Kilosand he still has a headache14:16
zerefmagespawn: lol @ xkcd14:18
magespawnvery funny stuff14:18
magespawngood for a friday afternoon14:18
zerefbut Kilos basic is  so basic14:19
zerefa few friends of mine got lappies with starter, and they all install ultimate14:19
zerefmost of the peeps want an os with everything on it14:20
Kiloswhat does ultimet cost zeref i would also like to know14:20
Kilosfor interests sake14:20
Kilosthats what large businesses buy14:20
zerefhonestly, i've never "bought" a windows version :P14:21
Kiloshaha you one of those billy cries about14:22
zerefimagine ubuntu having different editions....14:24
Kilosavast ye swabs14:24
Kilosya14:24
zerefin the linux world you sort odf have different versions, 14:24
zerefLFS -> ubuntu14:25
Kilosi tried win7 ultimate. horrible14:26
Kiloscan even play AOE314:26
Kilosit even says it has issues with aoe314:26
zerefWin 7 is good IMHO14:27
zerefyou play AOE????14:27
zerefnice14:27
magespawnR1898.0014:27
zerefmagespawn: Win 8 or win 7 ultimate14:28
magespawnwin 714:28
zerefwhew14:29
zerefhttp://mybroadband.co.za/news/software/63100-windows-8-versions-and-sa-pricing-explained.html14:29
zerefso complex14:31
Kilosyeah love aoe14:31
Kiloscan get lotsa 8ta data for R189814:32
Kiloslol yeah win7 is good14:36
Kilossome time we will find out what for14:36
magespawnhah Kilos14:36
magespawnhttp://xkcd.com/456/14:40
Symmetriahow do you leave a message for someone on the bot in here14:55
magespawnsay "Maaz tell nick message" without the quotes14:56
Symmetriamaaz tell sakhi Please contact Symmetria, +27 76 219 7933 when you get this, kinda urgent14:58
MaazSymmetria: Righto, I'll tell sakhi on freenode14:58
Kilosstorming here. gonna reconnect ups, see yas later15:15
Squirmalmost storming here too15:36
Squirmyoh15:39
Squirmbig storm around15:40
nlsthzn:( kernel update... reboot needed15:47
Kilosabend15:49
magespawni am out of here for now see y'all on saturday16:17
Kiloshey not_found-droid how come 2 of you17:31
Kiloshi nlsthzn 17:31
nlsthznalo uncle Kilos ... I am all over the place17:40
nlsthzn:D17:40
Kiloshehe17:41
Kilosim getting the flies disease17:41
Kilosso weird, i never get sick17:41
nlsthzn:( changing of the season and all17:41
Kilosyeah but it never bugs me, but sis and her husband had it for a week already17:42
* nlsthzn goes for a shower and a sleep ... nigth all17:42
Kilosnigfht nlsthzn sleep tight17:42
Kiloswhew typing crooked even17:42
Kilossuperfly, keeps your bugs in the cape17:43
zerefbye guys, enjoy teh weekend 17:45
Kilosyou too zeref 17:45
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Kiloshave a good one17:46
zeref_hidden_ninhmmm,17:46
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zeref_ninjacheers Kilos 17:46
superflyKilos: what bugs? I don't get sick17:52
Kilosrofl flu17:53
Kilosyou got flu more often than not17:53
Kilossuperfly, have you ever tried evolution mail18:05
superflyKilos: no18:06
Kilosi just installed here and did a backup from maverick18:06
Kilosso much better than thunderbird18:06
Kilosuser friendly wise i mean18:06
smileE17hi :p18:15
Kiloshi smileE17 18:15
Kiloshi magtie 18:15
smileE17how are you? :D18:15
Kilosgetting flu methinks18:16
Kilosand you?18:16
magtieHi kilos   smileyE1718:16
magtierefuse to get such things18:16
Kiloslol its not often i get18:17
Kilosbut spose sooner or later there is a mutation that will get to us all18:19
Kiloshi psydroid why you just lurk?18:19
Kilosyo Vince-0 18:20
psydroidhi Kilos18:22
psydroidI am studying18:22
Kilosgood lad18:23
Vince-0Hiii18:25
smileE17Kilos: i'm fine too18:30
smileE17:p18:30
smileE17it's vacation for me18:30
smileE17but now i have to go again18:30
smileE17i promise i will be here longer tomorrow :)18:30
smileE17good night everyone, sleep tight18:30
Kilostoods smileE17 18:30
Kilosyou too ty18:30
smileE17:)18:30
Kilosnight all. sleep tight18:55
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