[00:00] <dr_willis> f00dMonsta: was a bug like that in beta.. but havent seen the  issue in months.
[00:00] <f00dMonsta> dr_willis: it's worse now in 12.10 than 12.04
[00:00] <StarryDynamo> Well that's a problem right there. It's only going to load as fast as the USB will allow.
[00:00] <dr_willis> what video chipset?
[00:01] <xrs1> that doesnt explain why it needs to boot twice on 12.10 and nothing else
[00:01] <puff> Evening, I'm trying to install an rpm using alien, but alien is giving me some errors about "file not found" when it tries to chmod some directories.
[00:01] <f00dMonsta> xrs1: dumb question... did you try another USB stick? lol
[00:02] <xrs1> actually no i havent. never thought about that, these drives i baught brand new for the 12.10 release (my old ones needed replacement big time)
[00:02] <wols> puff: don't use alien. if you must, convert the rpm to tgz with it and install it
[00:02] <f00dMonsta> maybe it was a bad one
[00:02] <wols> puff: or even compile from source
[00:03] <avdorian> I posted pictures of the error screen here: http://s18.postimage.org/q7c1cvgrc/2nd_2.jpg
[00:03] <avdorian> I'm having an error when installing 12.04 on Kenovo G780
[00:03] <avdorian> can anyone help?
[00:03] <xrs1> got a 3 pack at costco. the first one was used as the live installer, the other 2 are on the laptops
[00:04] <avdorian> Sorry, this is the place: ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2076337
[00:04] <f00dMonsta> xrs1: maybe the ISO/LiveCD you downloaded was corrupted somehow
[00:04] <avdorian> I checksummed
[00:04] <xrs1> okay ill try downloading it again, checking the hash and re-installing
[00:04] <avdorian> and I burnt it a second time to make sure the burning didnt ruin it
[00:05] <blackshirt> puff, not all rpm packages would compatible wit deb packages when converted with alien
[00:05] <avdorian> ah it wasn't sent to me
[00:06] <f00dMonsta> Are there any other WM/DE out there with fancy effects (e.g. wobbly windows XD), other than Unity, Gnome and KDE?
[00:07] <seednode> Well, any WM can with Compiz
[00:07] <f00dMonsta> meh, compiz is the thing eating my CPU cycles! ><
[00:07] <blackshirt> gnome-shell
[00:08] <xrs1> avdorian   does the manufacturer have any firmware updates? if so read what they are for.
[00:08] <f00dMonsta> I actually like KDE the most, but it's multi monitor support is lacking atm...
[00:09] <avdorian> xrs1:Where do I check that?
[00:09] <avdorian> xrs1:I'm not sure what firmware updates are
[00:09] <xrs1> lenovo.com
[00:11] <xrs1> updates the "software" on the motherboard to fix bugs. sometimes i've had to do a firmware upgrade to fix weird boot screens like that. (most recently i had to do this on an old Compaq machine i was donating)
[00:12] <xrs1> go to lenovo, go to support, select your model and see what downloads they have available for it
[00:12] <avdorian> xrs1:ok thanx
[00:12] <xrs1> nice thing about lenovo is they also have linux drivers for their products
[00:12] <Penguin_> Anyone familiar with using truecrypt and ubuntu?
[00:13] <avdorian> xrs1:nice, I got it today buy the way, it's new
[00:14] <xrs1> if it is new, you can contact support, see if it supports linux, and if not, what models they have you can exchange it with
[00:15] <Hwkiller> winxp is pretty dang speedy on kvm
[00:16] <avdorian> xrs1:I saw some people on the ubuntu forums managed to put ubuntu on it, anyway in the support page there's nothinf for Linux for this model
[00:16] <xrs1> winxp is also 10 years old
[00:16] <avdorian> xrs1:Anything else to try? does the error tell you anything?
[00:16] <Hwkiller> xrs1: well, yes
[00:17] <Hwkiller> but now I have an x session explicitly for xp
[00:17] <xrs1> go into the BIOS and disable any advanced CPU options
[00:17] <Hwkiller> why?
[00:17] <avdorian> I think he told me
[00:17] <xrs1> @ avdorian
[00:18] <Hwkiller> oh
[00:18] <avdorian> xrs1: k thx, any specific settings? is it usually just called "advanced CPU settings"?
[00:19] <xrs1> no theres all kinds of dirrent stuff they call it. also if you see anything about OS install mode or virus protection, disable those
[00:20] <f00dMonsta> avdorian: wait which laptop do u have?
[00:20] <xrs1> also if there is an OS install mode, sometimes thats what you need (now adays this OS install mode usually is not what you want, but turning it on is worth a try)
[00:20] <f00dMonsta> the pictures look like mine, but I can only see the top of the screen :P
[00:21] <f00dMonsta> oh nm i see it, G780. Not the same
[00:21] <Gyro54> Is anyone having problems with Libreoffice calc lockups and missing icons etc with the latest upgrades to 12.04?
[00:22] <ms_daisy> my update manager is going over Tor for some reason. Which config files control how update manager accesses the internet to get updates?
[00:22] <avdorian> foodMonsta:yes, G780
[00:23] <alexGla> have question about command line fundamentals: why % ls >file includes file in the list of names. file initially is not created
[00:24] <escott> ms_daisy, it would be in /etc/dpkg or maybe /etc/apt
[00:25] <escott> alexGla, says who
[00:25] <akls> I'm trying to enable "Show QRCode" plugin in kupfer but it says "Python module вҖҳImageвҖҷ is needed". there's no python-image, how can I fix that?
[00:26] <avdorian> xrs1:In BIOS UEFI is enabled, tells you anything?
[00:26] <avdorian> xrs1: "UEFI Boot": Enabled
[00:26] <LinuxNewbie> Hello.  I have a question that might seem simple but I'm still learning.  How do I change the partition "type" or code of a partition that I've created?   Like 06=Fat 16, 82=Linux Swap, BF=Solaris, etc...
[00:26] <escott> alexGla, there is no specification for what order those two events are to happen. ls could race bash in creating the file, or bash could race ls.
[00:26] <xrs1> that shouldnt be an issue. secure boot not enabled yet. you can try turning that off, and make sure USB legacy support is enabled
[00:27] <xrs1> @ avdorian
[00:27] <escott> LinuxNewbie, generally you would not do so.
[00:27] <LinuxNewbie> escott: But in this case I do.
[00:27] <alexGla> escott, >fileName in my case creates fileName file
[00:27] <maj> LinuxNewbie: you can use 'fdisk', select the partition you want to change & select 'T'
[00:28] <escott> alexGla, its a race. either behavior is perfectly reasonable. i doubt POSIX dictates what is supposed to happen in that.
[00:28] <LinuxNewbie> maj: Thank you.  I will try that.
[00:28] <maj> make sure you 'w' before you quit
[00:28] <Penguin_> Anyone know much about truecrypt with linux?
[00:29] <avdorian> xrs1: What do you know!
[00:30] <avdorian> xrs1: Turning off UEFI made a difference
[00:30] <avdorian> xrs1: now at least I get the graphical Ubuntu loading screen
[00:30] <escott> avdorian, is this an installed system or a livecd
[00:31] <avdorian> escott:it's the ISO I download from the ubuntu website and booted from it, I think it's called a livecd not sure
[00:31] <xrs1> UEFI is the work of the devil
[00:31] <ms_daisy> thanks escott
[00:32] <escott> avdorian, yes we would call that a livecd. that should work on most efi systems, but a lot of the UEFI code out this is "immature" so its possible there could be some issues with your systems EFI implementation
[00:33] <avdorian> escott: K thx, BTW it's 12.04, maybe it's fixed by now
[00:33] <xrs1> stick with 12.04.1,
[00:34] <escott> avdorian, the developers would probably be curious if you have issues getting the 12.10 livecd to boot.
[00:34] <avdorian> I always though the bios just loads the cs and the firmware doesn't do anything but boot
[00:34] <avdorian> escott: OK, I'll try and find time to test 12.10 on this laptop
[00:34] <avdorian> *the cd
[00:35] <avdorian> wait, firmware is not just BIOS, my bda
[00:35] <avdorian> *bad
[00:36] <escott> avdorian, if you have the time you might also check if the fedora livecd works... its new technology so it might help to know if fedora has a hack that makes your version of uefi work that ubuntu might be missing or vice versa
[00:36] <avdorian> escott: OK NP
[00:38] <avdorian> I still don't know if installation works though
[00:39] <avdorian> for now I know I got the GUI working
[00:39] <avdorian> It's not detecting wireless for now, let's see if ethernet works
[00:41] <blastedt> Well, I finally repaired my boot manager.  Ubuntu doesn't work though; it works briefly, then everything stops working except the cursor.  All the screen elements freeze and nothing happens, but I can move the mouse (thumbsup)
[00:42] <blastedt> I've tried using recovery mode, but all the options go to a command line with a few commands pre-entered, then a blank space, not even a bash prompt
[00:42] <PatrickDickey> I know someone is working on a program called shim, that's supposed to allow you to install any Linux distribution in UEFI (Secure Boot). I'm not sure if that's relevant to avdorian's issue though. The person working on it is on the Fedora development team.
[00:43] <PatrickDickey> blastedt: Ubuntu 12.10 or an older version?
[00:43] <blastedt> I'm not sure.  I grabbed the newest ISO off the download page
[00:44] <blastedt> Yeah, 12.10
[00:44] <Regretfulone> hey all so I got Ubuntu 12.10 loaded up on my old dimension and I can't see anything but the background image. I can pull up terminal and tried changing screen resolution but nothing seemed to work
[00:44] <PatrickDickey> blastedt: When you say it works briefly, does it crash at (or before) the login screen, or after you've logged in?
[00:44] <blastedt> After I've logged in.  I can get ~15 seconds of normal usage before the freeze
[00:44] <PatrickDickey> Regretfulone, do you have an ATI graphics card in it?
[00:45] <Regretfulone> PatrickDickey: I am not sure. I should be able to pull that info up in the terminal window though correct?
[00:45] <PatrickDickey> blastedt try logging in with Gnome Classic (or another shell). To do that, when you're at the login screen, click the little circle next to your name.
[00:45] <blastedt> Thanks, will report back.
[00:45] <PatrickDickey> Regretfulone: yes, with lspci It should say something like VGA:
[00:46] <escott> blastedt, since it is still working i would install openssh-server and ssh into the box. that way you can see if anything is mentioned in dmesg or appearing in top
[00:46] <Regretfulone> okay it looks like the card it has installed is an Nvidia NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400]
[00:47] <Regretfulone> I was thinking if I can't get the desktop version to work I would be satisfied with getting one of the server versions up on it as well PatrickDickey
[00:47] <WeThePeople> how to access the network manager in lxde?
[00:49] <PatrickDickey> Regretfulone: Are you planning on using it as a server in the end?
[00:49] <avdorian> is it possible to have 2 OS's on 1 HDD?
[00:49] <PatrickDickey> wb blastedt.
[00:49] <blastedt_> I found a picture of what that menu should look like (here: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/classicgnome) PatrickDickey, but it isn't present on my installation
[00:50] <PatrickDickey> avdorian: Yes. It's calle dual-booting.
[00:50] <Regretfulone> PatrickDickey: well I am getting together the pieces to build my first computer and it won't be ready for a while and I was going to run the desktop version on that and then turn this one into a server
[00:50] <avdorian> PatrickDickey:hmmm... In the installation I removed 900GB from the main windows partition and I have 900GB under unused
[00:50] <PatrickDickey> Regretfulone: you can install ubuntu-server and then add a desktop to it.
[00:51] <blastedt_> It does seem to be a graphics issue, as there's random flickering on the password field if it doesn't have focus, and when I logged into Guest and changed to my user quickly, the password screen was scrambled randomly
[00:51] <avdorian> PatrickDickey: but I can't do anythin gwith them
[00:51] <alien2050> quick question: after installing wine, and opening by mistake a file with notepad, now my open menu (in nautilus) always has open with notepad by default... how can I change that?
[00:51] <PatrickDickey> avdorian, that's because each operating system uses it's own partition. Think of slices in a pie.
[00:51] <anhday> can someone help me how to fix these gtk-warning
[00:51] <anhday> v(vmware-modconfig:11203): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "equinox"
[00:51] <alien2050> I'd like to set it to use gedit instead.....
[00:51] <bazhang> alien2050, right click properties
[00:51] <Regretfulone> PatrickDickey: okay well then maybe I will just load up the server on there. Only thing I am not sure how to do is get the wireless adapter software installed so I can plug it in the back of the desktop
[00:51] <anhday> i have the modules installed, how come it unable to locate it
[00:51] <blastedt_> anhday: is the theme you're trying to use located in that directory
[00:52] <avdorian> PatrickDickey: ok, after I changed the windows partition size to 900GB less, do you know how I allocate this space to Ubuntu?
[00:52] <anhday> yes
[00:52] <PatrickDickey> avdorian: You need to create an actual partition (using the installer) on the unused one. Format it to ext4, and mount it to /.  You also need to create a partiation called swap in the unused space too.
[00:52] <anhday> i have the module installed blastedt_
[00:52] <blastedt_> I don't know anything about it, but just judging by the error message that was step one of troubleshooting.  Sorry I can't actually help anhday.
[00:52] <alien2050> nice... why is "add" greyed out though
[00:53] <anhday> yes, no problem.
[00:53] <avdorian> PatrickDickey: right now if I click on the "unused" space all the buttons are disabled
[00:53] <blastedt_> PatrickDickey: could the lack of swap space be an issue?  I didn't partition any swap on my computer because I have plenty of ram
[00:53] <Dragonster82> What's going on buddies?\
[00:53] <avdorian> PatrickDickey: there is Add, Change, New Partition Table, all are disabled
[00:54] <PatrickDickey> blastedt_:  that could be an issue. But I doubt it.
[00:54] <escott> blastedt_, no its not not having a swap
[00:54] <avdorian> PatrickDickey: wait, it's called unusable, not used
[00:54] <PatrickDickey> avdorian: Click on the unused space, and if Add is available, click that.
[00:54] <blastedt_> Ah, alright.  Is there a way to get the Gnome menu there without the use of the OS?  Go into live CD and install the theme from there?
[00:55] <avdorian> PatrickDickey: nothing is available, that's the weird part, maybe I'll just have to format everything
[00:55] <PatrickDickey> avdorian: That means that it can't do anything with the space. How did you shrink the partition?
[00:55] <blastedt_> I was advised earlier to use nouveua.blacklist=1 on the live cd to get it to work, but I don't know how to use that option in the actual OS, or how to fix it so I don't need it
[00:55] <craigbass1976> I've got an Acer laptop that reboots when I tell it to shut down.  I've been on the boards and tried what I found there, but it still does the same thing.  sudo poweroff worked once.  Installing laptop-mode-tools didn't help at all.
[00:55] <blastedt_> nouveau*
[00:55] <WeThePeople> is lxde supported here?
[00:55] <avdorian> PatrickDickey: from the installation, I just clicked change, and changed it to 20GB over the amount of used space
[00:56] <PatrickDickey> Regretfulone: one other option that you have is to install another desktop (kubuntu-desktop xubuntu-desktop or lubuntu-desktop) and try that instead.
[00:56] <Jordan_U> avdorian: Please pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l".
[00:56] <escott> blastedt_, you could blacklist nouveau, you might also see about disabling nomodeset. you can add kernel boot params to /etc/default/grub and then run update-grub
[00:57] <craigbass1976> WeThePeople, Maybe.  #lubuntu is usually dead I think.  What do you need?
[00:57] <Regretfulone> PatrickDickey: yeah I looked around a little more using the graphics card and someone posted that they got kubuntu working with the same card. Is there anyway that I can download kubuntu without having to do the whole burning a live CD stuff
[00:57] <WeThePeople> craigbass1976, how do i enable network manager?
[00:57] <blastedt_> escott: can I do that without access to Ubuntu?  use my live cd?  not quite sure how to go about that to be honest
[00:57] <PatrickDickey> Regretfulone: do you have any internet on the computer, wired maybe?
[00:57] <blastedt_> escott: thanks
[00:58] <escott> !info chroot | blastedt_
[00:58] <Regretfulone> wired would be an issue >< I would need to get like a 50ft cable haha
[00:58] <escott> !chroot | blastedt_ sorry
[00:58] <craigbass1976> WeThePeople, Is it even there?  In /etc/init.d/ ?
[00:58] <avdorian> Jordan_u:it has Error: can't have partition outside the disc, I'll give you the entire message in a sec
[00:58] <PatrickDickey> Regretfulone: what kind of wireless card do you have?
[00:58] <escott> blastedt_, bind mount the special filesytems /dev, /proc and /sys, then chroot in make your modifications and run update-grub
[00:59] <Regretfulone> PatrickDickey: I don't have a card for it I bought a wireless adapter from my work on sale for like 20$ its a d-link wireless n-150 adapter
[00:59] <PatrickDickey> escott, can he make the changes through the recovery console?
[00:59] <escott> PatrickDickey, sure
[01:00] <PatrickDickey> escott, could you walk him through it? He can get into the recovery console.
[01:00] <kielanmatt> hi all
[01:00] <kielanmatt> I have a b**ch of a problem with my CLEVO
[01:00] <kielanmatt> I cant get my NVIDIA drivers installed and working
[01:00] <blastedt_> oh is that what that command line was? PatrickDickey.  Thought it was working on opening a safe-mode-esque feature like Windows does
[01:00] <PatrickDickey> Regretfulone: I'll look into how to get that adapter working with Ubuntu.
[01:00] <escott> blastedt_, its both
[01:01] <Regretfulone> PatrickDickey: okay it comes with a CD to install the software and I put it in the computer but I am looking up how to boot it and install from terminal
[01:01] <escott> blastedt_, but you can make the changes you need to make in that. if you know what changes you would make in grub to get a good boot you can do them all from the recovery console
[01:02] <kielanmatt> how do I tell X server/force X server to load nvidia drivers and card instead of intel?
[01:02] <Jordan_U> avdorian: Whatever other problems you might have, that problem of the partition table listing a partition as extending beyond the end of the actual disk needs to be fixed. A tool called "fixparts" should be able to do this. Do you have any idea how you came to have such an invalid partition table?
[01:02] <blastedt_> escott: grub is working fine, it's the installation itself that isn't.  Unless I'm misunderstanding you
[01:02] <WeThePeople> craigbass1976, yeah its there
[01:03] <avdorian> Jordan_u:http://pastebin.com/QZKyU6Kj
[01:03] <craigbass1976> WeThePeople, you trying to start up the network, or mess with it in a GUI?
[01:03] <avdorian> Jordan_u:no idea, I just changed the size from the Ubuntu Installation GUI, unless that's wrong
[01:03] <avdorian> Jordan_u:And it's a brand no laptop
[01:04] <avdorian> *new
[01:04] <escott> blastedt_, you mentioned nouveau.blacklist=1 that is a kernel boot parameter that one can add to either /etc/default/grub to make a default for all boots, or enter into grub for an individual boot. if you have tested in by entering it into grub (with the boot line editor in grub) and it works then do it again once to get a good system then you can add it to /etc/default/grub and make it permanent
[01:04] <blastedt_> ok.  thanks
[01:04] <blastedt_> im gonna reboot and try it in grub then
[01:04] <avdorian> Jordan_u:If I don't really care about the windows, can I just format everything?
[01:04] <WeThePeople> craigbass1976, network manager icon is not in the panel i have to put the essid in to connect to the access point
[01:05] <Jordan_U> avdorian: It looks like that error was referring to another drive, your primary drive doesn't appear to have an invalid partiiton table. It *does* however have 4 primary partitions, which is the maximum you can create.
[01:05] <Dragonster82> Anyone knows of a way to stop Ubuntu 12.10 from resetting my brightness level?
[01:05] <avdorian> Jordan_u:Ahhh you're right!
[01:05] <avdorian> Jordan_u:I guess that's problem, so I'll just delete one
[01:05] <Jordan_U> avdorian: Yes, you can simply remove all of the windows partitions and install Ubuntu using the entire drive.
[01:06] <avdorian> Jordan_u:Yeah wanted to keep it in case the installation will haev any other problems
[01:06] <kielanmatt> anyone?
[01:07] <craigbass1976> WeThePeople, ok.  What happens if you type nm-applet in a terminal?
[01:07] <xangua> Dragonster82: that's a gnome specific issue, nothing you can do about aside from using another desktop
[01:07] <escott> kielanmatt, is this a laptop?
[01:07] <kielanmatt> yes
[01:07] <Crshman> how do I add the messaging applet back to the corner of the screen in 12.10?
[01:07] <kielanmatt> escott: CLEVO 15EM
[01:07] <kielanmatt> escott: nvidia 680m and ivy bridge
[01:07] <Crshman> i'm not getting notified of IMs anymore and it's super annoying
[01:08] <kielanmatt> escott: I havent touched Bumblebee
[01:08] <trism> Crshman: are you using pidgin?
[01:08] <Crshman> trism: yes
[01:08] <escott> kielanmatt, it probably has nvidia optimus which is not well supported. you can look at bumblebee or ironhide or whatever its called
[01:08] <avdorian> Jordan_u:K I deleted sda3 and sda4 and mounted / on sda3, now it asks me for device for boot loader installation
[01:08] <WeThePeople> craigbass1976, fyi i have to logout login logout login again.. to answer that question lol
[01:08] <trism> Crshman: it hasn't been updated to the new messaging-menu API yet
[01:08] <WeThePeople> brb
[01:08] <craigbass1976> I've got an Acer laptop that reboots when I tell it to shut down.  I've been on the boards and tried what I found there, but it still does the same thing.  sudo poweroff worked once.  Installing laptop-mode-tools didn't help at all.
[01:08] <kielanmatt> escott: won't work without bumblebee or ironhide?
[01:09] <Jordan_U> avdorian: Select "sda".
[01:09] <switchblade> is anybody else having trouble with a torchlght update?  my U.M. won't let me install the updates.
[01:09] <Crshman> trism: I'm pretty sure the notifications were working just fine in 12.04....the messaging icon turned blue when I got an IM
[01:09] <escott> kielanmatt, if its optimus thats your only option. the graphics are routed through the intel chip in some funky ways so you cant just "turn on the nvidia" and pretend the intel doesnt exist
[01:09] <PatrickDickey> Regretfulone: You might try the steps on this page http://kaustav.codebinders.com/2011/10/install-dwa-125-wireless-driver-on-ubuntu-11-10.html I'm not making any guarantees though, as I don't have that card.
[01:09] <kielanmatt> escott: haha
[01:09] <kielanmatt> escott: fucking optimus
[01:10] <trism> Crshman: yes I understand this, the API changed in 12.10
[01:10] <Jordan_U> avdorian: And you might want to create an extended partition and make all your Ubuntu partitions logical partitions. That will give you more freedom to create partitions in the future (you can create an unlimited number of logical partitions within an extended partition).
[01:10] <kielanmatt> escott: I bet the intel chipset bottlenecks the nvidia! My game is gonna suck on these machines
[01:10] <Jordan_U> !language | kielanmatt
[01:10] <Crshman> trism: ohhhh sorry, I was thinking more along the lines of when unity came out
[01:10] <Crshman> trism: damn...thanks for the insight!
[01:10] <escott> kielanmatt, i would just stick with the ivy graphics. thats a good enough chipset for desktop usage and your battery life will be better
[01:10] <blastedt> escott: Do I want to put the bootoptions in command-line or the "e to edit commands before booting" menu
[01:10] <trism> Crshman: bug 1040259 if you want to keep track of progress
[01:10] <kielanmatt> escott: hahah... I'm developing a high-end game on linux
[01:11] <escott> blastedt, "e to edit"
[01:11] <Crshman> trism: yep, just found it...arggg
[01:11] <craigbass1976> WeThePeople, eh?
[01:11] <blastedt> i put the nouveau.blacklist=1 in the edit commands menu, unindented, at the end, and it didn't end up working sadly
[01:11] <blastedt> escott: thanks
[01:11] <WeThePeople> craigbass1976, thanks nm-applet opens up network manager
[01:11] <kielanmatt> escott: converted from radeon... I doubt the HD 4000 could squeeze 4 million polygons at FULL HD with Hardware Tessellation
[01:11] <WeThePeople> and connects to the internet
[01:11] <escott> blastedt, and then drop it in anywhere on the line like: root=UUID=.... ro rootflags...
[01:12] <craigbass1976> WeThePeople, so you're all set?  Good.  Now tell me why my Acer laptop reboots instead of shuts down...
[01:12] <Regretfulone> PatrickDickey: wow thanks for finding that! I am reading through it but out of curiosity and since I can't seem to find it, how to you run a cd to install through the terminal
[01:12] <WeThePeople> LOL
[01:12] <escott> blastedt, iirc thats the vmlinuz line
[01:12] <craigbass1976> WeThePeople, that's a no I'm taking it...
[01:12] <blastedt> Escott: you do remember correctly. thanks
[01:12] <WeThePeople> have fun
[01:13] <avdorian> Jordan_u:Thank you!
[01:13] <Jordan_U> avdorian: You're welcome.
[01:13] <WeThePeople> craigbass1976, ok, laptop reboots instead of shutsdown, explain this..
[01:14] <PatrickDickey> Regretfulone: I'm not sure what you're asking.
[01:14] <blastedt> escott: I am somehow getting low FPS on an OS but at least it's running at the moment.  Thanks again.
[01:15] <Regretfulone> PatrickDickey: okay, I have the CD to install the software for the wireless adapter in the CD-drive. How do I access the CD in the drive via the terminal
[01:15] <escott> craigbass1976, thats an ACPI table issue
[01:15] <blastedt> i'll have to try to find graphics drivers and see if they help
[01:15] <craigbass1976> WeThePeople, that's pretty much it.  I was just yanking your chain by the way -- if you're new I don't expect you to have th answer.
[01:15] <craigbass1976> escott, Mkay...
[01:15] <PatrickDickey> Regretfulone: the CD won't do you any good. there is no actual driver on the CD for linux. So, you have to build it using the source code from the site.
[01:16] <WeThePeople> craigbass1976, yeah, i figured i laughed my @ss off
[01:16] <WeThePeople> its true
[01:16] <Regretfulone> PatrickDickey: ohh okay, well I will have to use my laptop then to download and then compile it on the desktop after i put it on a flash drive. I am assuming I can access the flash drive via the terminal
[01:17] <craigbass1976> WeThePeople, but in a month, that's another story...
[01:17] <PatrickDickey> You should be able to.
[01:17] <Gin> Hello....I can't install ubuntu -_-
[01:18] <craigbass1976> escott, I downloaded laptop-mode-tools, but wasn't sure what I should do once I had it installed and running.  Is there a good walkthrough for this?
[01:18] <WeThePeople> gin, are you using a iso?
[01:18] <PatrickDickey> Regretfulone: You'll need to download a couple of things and install them as well. Build-essential is the first thing. You can download it from http://packages.ubuntu.com/quantal/build-essential
[01:18] <WeThePeople> craigbass1976, new laptop??
[01:18] <Gin> No, I installed it onto a usb with that program.
[01:18] <WeThePeople> unetbootin
[01:19] <escott> craigbass1976, since poweroff is working you might see if you can modify the shutdown scripts to use that instead. debugging i can't say much about. evidently the standard acpi call to powerdown the system is causing it to reboot, but poweroff knows the correct way to shutdown (there are a dozen ways to cause an x86 system to reboot or shutdown)
[01:19] <ziggyzero> Hi. I am unable to add a repository
[01:19] <ziggyzero> sudo add-apt-repository
[01:19] <ziggyzero> I get command not found
[01:19] <craigbass1976> escott, poweroff only worked once.
[01:19] <ziggyzero> anybody know what package I need to install
[01:20] <bitool> welcome
[01:20] <Regretfulone> PatrickDickey: okay and it should just install if I move the files off a flash drive. I'm sorry I am new to ubuntu and using the terminal like this
[01:20] <PatrickDickey> Regretfulone: if you're logged into the computer via console, type the following into the console, and tell me whether they come up with anything (if you don't have them, it will say dpkg-query: no packages....) dpkg -l dpkg-dev dpkg -l gcc dpkg -l g++ dpkg -l libc6-dev dpkg -l make (each of those is on a separate line).
[01:20] <xangua> ziggyzero: what ubuntu version are you usingВҝ are you in a serverВҝ
[01:20] <bitool> francais
[01:20] <ziggyzero> yes. 12.10
[01:20] <Dragonster82> Anyone knows of a way to stop Ubuntu 12.10 from resetting my brightness level?
[01:21] <PatrickDickey> Regretfulone: I don't need a paste of the lines, just whether it found the packages.
[01:21] <Gin> I get unable to find a medium containing a live file system..... I don't think my computer can read usb's while it's starting up. I saw an instustion that said to open a bios page, but I can't see that with my screen/brokenlaptop setup.
[01:21] <escott> craigbass1976, you can try various acpi kernel params listed here http://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
[01:21] <ssfdre38> im trying to upgrade my server from 12.04 to 12.10 but for some reason its not letting me upgrade, do you know how to get it to work and im doing do-release-upgrade
[01:21] <PatrickDickey> bitool, are you looking for help?
[01:21] <blastedt> The application Compiz has closed unexpectedly... it has to do with Ubuntu's window manager?
[01:22] <ziggyzero> xangua: yes 12.10 server edition
[01:22] <wilee-nilee> Gin, There is a out of the bios boot menu gotten to with a key press at powering on, try f12 yours may be different though.
[01:23] <blastedt> also, argh, Chromium BSU isn't a browser at all.
[01:23] <xangua> ziggyzero: you can try asking on #ubuntu-server , ubbotu mentions add-apt-repository is found on software-properties-common package, i am not sure about it
[01:23] <blastedt> Firefox isn't working either, I might just flush this idea of dualbooting, nothing is working...
, yes, but I can't see that.  The first thing it shows me is the windows login-screen.
[01:23] <trism> ssfdre38: /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades, set prompt=normal
[01:23] <escott> blastedt, the browser is chromium-browser
[01:24] <blastedt> thanks escott
[01:24] <ziggyzero> xangua: Mind I ask how you know that it's in that package (for future ref)
[01:24] <xangua> !find add-apt-repository | ziggyzero
[01:24] <PatrickDickey> Gin what's the manufacturer and model of the computer?
[01:24] <Regretfulone> dpkg-dev not found, gcc not found, g++ not found, libc-dev not found PatrickDickey
[01:25] <wilee-nilee> Gin, You have two choices, first changing the bios to read the usb first, or the menu I suggest. Not every computer use the same key for this second menu, but all have this option.
[01:25] <alecb> my sound on websites doesn't seem to be working. what should I do? is there a way to test to just play a local test file quickly?
[01:25] <avdorian> Thanx you anyone who helped, Ubuntu is up and running \o/
[01:25] <escott> Regretfulone, install build-essential
HP (Hewlett packard)  G60 laptop and an old CRT samtron monitor.
[01:25] <alecb> (alsamixer says master volume is at 100)
[01:26] <PatrickDickey> Regretfulone: I hate to say that you're going to need to run a cable. You need those packages installed, so you can install build-essential. You need that, so you can compile the drivers for the wireless adapter.
[01:27] <PatrickDickey> Gin http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Document.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&taskId=115&prodSeriesId=3999411&prodTypeId=321957&objectID=c00364979
[01:27] <Regretfulone> PatrickDickey: thanks for your help! I might be able to grab a cord form my work tomorrow or something. I might be able to move the actual CPU but its a lot of work to move everything down there
[01:27] <ssfdre38> thanks trism
[01:27] <NongA_TongE> greetings,  Is this the right room for ubuntu installer issues?
[01:28] <blastedt> Ubuntu is using about 80% of all four cores (2.4 ghz) with nothing open but terminal and process monitor, is that normal?
[01:28] <PatrickDickey> Regretfulone: Sorry I couldn't help you further. It's possible to install all of the packages manually, but it's much easier (and less insane) to let apt-get do the dirty work for you.  After you install build-essential (it *should* install the other needed packages), then follow the steps on that first link I gave you (the installing wireless card on ubuntu one).
[01:29] <Regretfulone> PatrickDickey: okay well thank you! I appreciate it!
[01:29] <ziggyzero> xangua: thanks that worked a treat
[01:29] <xangua> good ;)
[01:29] <ziggyzero> xangua: appreciate the help
[01:29] <wilee-nilee> Gin, Try the esc key when you see that bios gui at powering on
[01:29] <xangua> really wan't sure
[01:29] <PatrickDickey> Regretfulone: no problem. I hope it all works out for you.
[01:29] <PatrickDickey> Gin, it's actually the F10 key (according to HP's support site).
[01:30] <nogoodatnix> ne1 no a good bandwidth monitor that does internet traffic NOT LAN and not IPTraf, i dont want a terminal
[01:30] <PatrickDickey> To get into BIOS, at least.
[01:30] <Gin> I SEE NOTHING.... The monitor doesn't turn on until after all of that
[01:30] <alecb> my sound on websites doesn't seem to be working. what should I do? is there a way to test to just play a local test file quickly? alsamixer says master is at 100
[01:31] <NongA_TongE> @alecb - are you running pulseaudio?
[01:31] <blastedt> agh trying to install video drivers to make this maybe not painfully slow and it opened a .run in text editor
[01:32] <wilee-nilee> Gin, have you tried the esc key tapping it as soon as you hit the power on until the monitor turn on
[01:32] <Dragonster82> Anyone knows of a way to stop Ubuntu 12.10 from resetting my brightness level?
[01:32] <PatrickDickey> Gin are you pressing the key as soon as you start the laptop? You might have to do it repeatedly. And, according to their site, it might be F2 or F6 also.
[01:32] <Regretfulone> PatrickDickey: thanks! If it doesn't I only invested 25$ in it for some upgraded RAM so if nothing works no real harm done
[01:33] <blastedt> Screen just flashed to nothing, then wallpaper, then Compiz closed unexpectedly again
[01:33] <escott> Gin if your monitor is connected through HDMI or displayPort connect it to the DVI port
[01:33] <blastedt> Does anyone know anything about Compiz crashes?  Running with nouveau.blacklist=1
[01:34] <escott> Gin, failing that vga, failing that integrated DVI or vga
[01:34] <n00b> how can i log off from unitz_
[01:34] <escott> Dragonster82, resetting when
[01:35] <PatrickDickey> Regretfulone: you might also be able to install those packages from the Live CD, but I'm not sure. You'll have to find out how to edit software sources to look for the CD, and then update them (sudo apt-get update) and then sudo apt-get install build-essential  I've never done it, so I don't know for sure how well it will work.
[01:35] <wilee-nilee> blastedt, compiz has been known to crash, that said it is the window manager, if it has completely crashed you will not see the panel on the left.
[01:35] <Gin> ok....I managed to get non-backlit image onto the broken screen....I guess i'll use a flashlight to try an decipher what I have to do...
[01:35] <blastedt> wilee-nilee: it seems to reboot itself, that's the second time it's crashed
[01:35] <wilee-nilee> blastedt, Reboot meaning going to the login?
[01:36] <blastedt> wilee-nilee: flashes to wallpaper with no window manager on the left or windows, then flashes to back to where it was after a second, then opens a crash notifier
[01:36] <Regretfulone> PatrickDickey: well again thanks for all your help and suggestions!
[01:36] <alexGla> keep failing to schedule task: echo test | at (e.g. 02:40) time passes but message doen't display
[01:36] <blastedt> wilee-nilee: could compiz be causing my freezes and slowdowns? should i move down to 12.04?
[01:36] <wilee-nilee> blastedt, With no panels at the notifier
[01:37] <Guest98664> Anyone knows how i log off from unity?
[01:37] <escott> alexGla, what?
[01:37] <PatrickDickey> Regretfulone: no problem. Hope it all works out for you.
[01:37] <blastedt> wilee-nilee: what do you mean?
[01:37] <Guest98664> what is the command to close unity?
[01:37] <xangua> Guest98664: clic in the power icon, select log out
[01:37] <escott> alexGla, ie what exactly is the command you are running to schedule this job
[01:38] <alexGla> escott, command 'at' allows to schedule a task for a particular time
[01:38] <wilee-nilee> blastedt, When it crashes and you end up with the crash notifier can you access the left panel, and is the panel at the top. Compiz will restrt itself is what I'm trying to see if has happened.
[01:38] <escott> alexGla, but exactly how are you using at
[01:38] <Guest98664> xangua you mean the one in the upper right corner?
[01:38] <alexGla> escott, just for now i want to escho any message in a terminal window
[01:38] <PatrickDickey> Guest98664: You either have to log out, and choose a different shell at login, or shut down.
[01:38] <escott> alexGla, thats not going to work
[01:38] <nerdsrus45> I'm on the new ubunut - and looking for drivers for my video card and sound card
[01:38] <escott> alexGla, atd does not have a tty
[01:38] <blastedt> wilee-nilee: yeah, the left panel works again by the time the crash notifier comes up; it seems to be restarting itself fine
[01:39] <PatrickDickey> nerdsrus45: what video card?
[01:39] <nerdsrus45> Nvidi
[01:39] <nerdsrus45> Crap - lol I'll have to try to get the model - I don't remember off the top of my head
[01:39] <Guest98664> xangua, PatrickDickey > there is no log out there in the icon upper right corner
[01:40] <escott> alexGla, if you want to know if atd (or anacron) is running your job when it should touch a file
[01:40] <nerdsrus45> Let me get all that info and I'll be back - sorry - due me - I know better
[01:40] <wilee-nilee> blastedt, Cool, that is helpful for the channel to know, since you have graphic problems associated I'm not much help really, compiz by itself I know fairly well.
[01:40] <craigbass1976> escott, is there a way to just shut acpi off?  I stuck something like this: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="acpi=off apm power_off=1 quiet splash"  in grub, but then it hung and made me hit the power button.
[01:40] <blastedt> wilee-nilee: thanks anyways
[01:40] <Guest98664> PatrickDickey: i want to log out and choose a different shell from lightdm but how do i logout?
[01:41] <PatrickDickey> Guest98664: click the icon in the upper right hand corner, and choose Log Out from there.
[01:41] <Regretfulone> PatrickDickey: I think I may have found a solution https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/build-essential/+question/49690 I am going to try this and see if it works
[01:41] <Dragonster82> escott: When I restart my computer
[01:41] <escott> craigbass1976, (a) those changes wont be seen until you run update-grub (b) it might be better to edit in the grub editor (hit "e" during the boot) to verify it works before making it permanent
[01:41] <Regretfulone> PatrickDickey: just remembered - - I borrowed a dvd drive from work cause my tower doesn't have one so that won't work I can't load the dvd
[01:41] <blastedt> wilee-nilee: i downloaded my graphics driver in an attempt to salvage my dual boot, but running the .run file opens Text-editor, how do I install this? terminal?
[01:41] <escott> Dragonster82, you can echo the appropriate value to /sys/class/power/...../backlight in /etc/rc.local
[01:42] <Guest98664> PatrickDickey: zes that was my first try, but there is no log out there.
[01:42] <craigbass1976> escott, I edited /etc/default/grub and ran update-grub  I got different behavior, so I know it took, just still not the desired behavior.
[01:43] <wilee-nilee> blastedt, Graphic drivers I'm not real up on I have not had to install any, but the channel knows this stuff.
[01:43] <steve_c> ive just installed the new release of ubuntu 12.10, is everybody having issues with this release or is it just me, i cant find synaptic, my NIC wont work, my wireless wont work, and strangely enough the only thing that will work is an android i have tethered on my wifi
[01:43] <Guest98664> PatrickDickey: do you know the actual command behind the removed logout button that is missing now?
[01:43] <blastedt> wilee-nilee: thanks anyways. ill continue asking aruond
[01:43] <alexGla> escott, yeah it executed touch command, thank you
[01:43] <craigbass1976> escott, My favorite part is that there's such a LOOOOOOONG pause between shut down and reboot where I get my hopes up.  :)
[01:43] <escott> craigbass1976, well acpi=off turns off the acpi functionality there are other variants like noirq, but i dont know enough to say what might work except that its almost certainly acpi related
[01:43] <piotr_> hey is there any way to disable intel graphcis and only use nvidia on laptop with two cards?
[01:44] <escott> alexGla, also keep in mind anything you execute in atd (or anacron) is executed outside of bash and outside your current environment
[01:44] <joosen> hi
[01:44] <Guest98664> Anyone knows how to log out of that crappy unity without logout button?
[01:44] <alexGla> escott, i see
[01:44] <joosen> someone use gnome remix
[01:44] <joosen> or not?
[01:44] <joosen> Now, I would like it.
[01:45] <escott> piotr_, if its optimus you need to look at bumblebee ironhide. if the bios offers a way to select what card to use then you can just make the selection in the bios
[01:45] <jamescordrey> ok, is there anyone available to help me troubleshoot my wireless internet??? I've been fighting with it allllllll day and need dire assistance
[01:45] <blastedt> god what the hell.  to run a .run file, go to properties, check the allow file as program box.  this would be fine and dandy if the damned box didnt immediately uncheck itself.  how do I grant myself root in the gui shell?
[01:45] <joosen> How can I remove and use the original setting of ubuntu 12.10?
[01:45] <davidgilmour> i need a little bit of help.. i need a command to list all files in current directory and find a keyword in each file and replace it for another.. like "mark-perrone-1.jpg", i'd need to replace it by "charles-perrone-1.jpg"
[01:45] <joosen> Someone can help me?
[01:45] <escott> blastedt, have you tried using jockey instead of downloading and installing a run fule
[01:45] <escott> file
[01:46] <blastedt> escott: no. i've never used any linux before
[01:46] <Guest98664> which gesettings can i modify to unhide the logout button, i cant believe they removed it, that would be idiotic
[01:46] <escott> davidgilmour, man sed
[01:46] <joosen> someone help me please?
[01:46] <jamescordrey> is anyone availabe to help me troubleshoot my wireless????
[01:46] <davidgilmour> thanks
[01:47] <Guest98664> how come i hate ubuntu more and more with every release?
[01:47] <blastedt> escott: it's a driver manager according to google, apt-get install reports there's no package named jockey
[01:47] <seednode> Because they don't respect your freedom.
[01:47] <jamescordrey> @guest98664 time to switch to windows?? lol
[01:48] <joosen> why you hate it?
[01:48] <escott> davidgilmour, if you are doing this recursively over multiple files in multiple folders see man find. in particular find -exec sed s/regex/pattern \; if you have an example line and want to verify its correctness feel free to ask, but you should read the man pages first
[01:48] <nerdsrus45> Okay - got my info :)
[01:48] <tenX_> Guest98664: can relate
[01:48] <joosen> It's ok?
[01:48] <nerdsrus45> I need drivers for video adapter - Nvidia GTS450
[01:48] <escott> blastedt, binaries are jockey-gtk or jockey-text depending on if you are in a gui
[01:48] <blastedt> escott: jockey common I guess, thanks for the suggestion
[01:48] <nerdsrus45> The reason is I want to run my dual monitor system -
[01:49] <joosen> someone help me.
[01:49] <Guest98664> why would they remove the logout button, thats really bad for the blood pressure
[01:49] <escott> blastedt, you should not be installing drivers manually
[01:49] <blastedt> escott: alright, ill use those instead
[01:49] <steve_c> where is my package manager in 12.10
[01:49] <trism> Guest98664: gsettings set com.canonical.indicator.session suppress-logout-menuitem false; maybe however it defaults to false so it shouldn't be hidden
[01:49] <piotr_> escott, thanks
[01:49] <xangua> it's there Guest98664 http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/07/new-session-menu-lands-in-ubuntu-12-10
[01:50] <xangua> steve_c: synaptic hasn't been preinstalled for a couple releases already, open software center and install synaptic
[01:50] <jamescordrey> heres my issue with wireless...i installed ubuntu originally....wireless driver was available in proprietary drivers list...good to go...well today i updated/rebooted and lost wireless......soooo i decided to just reinstall from live usb....now when im in live usb i have wireless....when i boot into hdd the option to select my additional wireless driver is there but when i apply it hickups...
[01:50] <jamescordrey> ...and does not activate....can anyone please help me
[01:51] <jamescordrey> pm me if you can help
[01:51] <Guest98664> trism thanks that should be it, unfortunately there is no session in that branch of gsettings
[01:51] <nerdsrus45> Is there a place to get drivers for Nvidia GTS 450?
[01:51] <steve_c> xangua, a couple of releases? i was using it in 12.04
[01:52] <blastedt> nerdsrus45: join me in the terrible nightmare of trying to use jockey
[01:52] <xangua> steve_c: yes, because you manually installed it surely
[01:52] <escott> jamescordrey, is the module loaded? check lsmod. is the radio on? check rfkill
[01:52] <trism> Guest98664: which ubuntu version is this?
[01:52] <trism> Guest98664: do you not have indicator-session installed?
[01:52] <xangua> steve_c: like i said is no longer preinstalled, not that you can not longer install it
[01:53] <nerdsrus45> Blastedt: jockey - I take it that is the driver software installer for the new 10?
[01:53] <blastedt> i give up, windows took five minutes to install and ubuntu has taken over five hours and has horrible issues
[01:53] <nerdsrus45> <---stuck with dual boot :)
[01:53] <blastedt> i have no idea nerdsrus45, it's what i was told to use, apt-get install didnt install it right
[01:53] <steve_c> i may of updated, but im pretty sure it was a fresh install, i know 11.10 came with synaptic, i dont know what you mean by a couple of releases but thanks anyway
[01:53] <Guest98664> trism 12.10 x64 live from usb stick, maybe there is no session at all?
[01:54] <nerdsrus45> I'm not even sure how to get to cmd prompt in ubuntu yet - still trying to figure that out
[01:54] <blastedt> ctl+alt+t
[01:54] <Guest98664> trism i just installed gnome shell to try out, but i cant get the lightdm to show up since it alwazs logs me into that unitz
[01:55] <steve_c> also, what has changed with the networking now, its a real pain updating to the new release and not being able to download anything
[01:55] <query_maker> !lamp
[01:55] <trism> Guest98664: gnome-session-quit --logout; but it should be there in the gear by default (though may be not on the live image, I haven't checked recently)
[01:55] <Guest98664> trism and zes indicator session is installed
[01:56] <Guest98664> trism thanks i will trz that
[01:56] <query_maker> I am trying to get phpmyadmin to work and it won't
[01:56] <query_maker> on apache
[01:57] <blastedt> >sudo apt-get install jockey-gtk: jockey-gtk is already the newest version
[01:57] <nerdsrus45> well, if I figure out how to get the drivers for my video card - I'm going to hopefully set up a dual monitor system
[01:57] <blastedt> >jockey-gtk: please install jockey-gtk to use it, try sudo apt-get install jockey-gtk
[01:57] <blastedt> the proximity of these two error messages is baffling
[01:58] <escott> blastedt, are you in a gui?
[01:58] <NongA_TongE> Greetings, Anyone willing to help out with ubuntu 12.10 installer issues?
[01:58] <blastedt> escott: i switched over to gnome classic, but using a terminal at the moment
[01:58] <wilee-nilee> NongA_TongE, Tell us what the problem is.
[01:58] <escott> blastedt, but a terminal in a gui... not a tty outside the gui
[01:59] <nerdsrus45> Sorry - yeah that's what I have - 12 :) the new one :) lol
[01:59] <blastedt> yeah in a gui
[01:59] <nerdsrus45> <----wonders if he should be doing this - I do windows support all day - sort of brain dead
[02:00] <NongA_TongE> I make it to various points in the install, and the screen goes black and I lose display - it says it cant display that resolution and 1280x1024 is optimal.
[02:00] <NongA_TongE> I should state,  I'm trying to install 12.10 as a fresh install over a machine that has been running 10.04 for a couple years
[02:01] <escott> blastedt, odd... jockey-gtk is marked as transitional package for driver management must be a new 12.10 thing
[02:01] <wilee-nilee> NongA_TongE, Couple of things, have you checked the md5sum of the ISO or disc?
[02:01] <Hganavak> If I wanted to hack together my own version of Ubuntu using something like Ubuntu Builder, is there anything stopping me from putting this online as my own distro (assuming it contains no proprietary software)?
[02:01] <NongA_TongE> this is a dell xps desktop  with a Nvidia GEForce 7900 series card.
[02:01] <steve_c> I have a Realtek RTL8111/8168B NIC and ubuntu keeps on telling me im not connected, can someone help me?
[02:01] <query_maker> my apacheserver isn't working
[02:01] <trism> escott: it is in software-properties-gtk now
[02:01] <query_maker> join #apache
[02:01] <NongA_TongE> and i have already tried selecting nomodeset from the install menu
[02:02] <NongA_TongE> no I have not checked the md5sum of the iso or disk.
[02:02] <NongA_TongE> forgive me -- ho do I do that?
[02:02] <NongA_TongE> how.
[02:02] <craigbass1976> Other than init 0, shutdown -P now (or -h) and Shut Down from the GUI button, is there another command that will shut a computer down?
[02:02] <escott> trism, thanks, blastedt its software-properties-gtk now with the backend being ubuntu-drivers (if you need a text mode tool)
[02:02] <nerdsrus45> Blastdt: i used third party installer and it seems to be working
[02:03] <blastedt> nerdsrus45: nice
[02:03] <wilee-nilee> NongA_TongE, Boot the install using nomodeset, hit f6 at the choice of try or install gui at startup, choose nomodeset and boot in and try the install again. Make sure you tick the download updates in the install gui.
[02:03] <blastedt> escott: so apt-get install software-properties-gtk?
[02:03] <blastedt> escott: thanks
[02:03] <escott> Hganavak, provided you didnt call it ubuntu and removed all ubuntu references you would probably be ok. you would have to check the licenses of the software itself to see what it required. also an offtopic question
[02:04] <wilee-nilee> NongA_TongE,This option will have you running at 800x600, but lets see if it installs without blacking out.
[02:04] <NongA_TongE> wilee-nilee - already did that.  a couple of times.  it doesn't seem to make a difference if I have nomodeset on or not.
[02:04] <NongA_TongE> I've done this about 12 times today )
[02:04] <nerdsrus45> okay - i am wrong it failed damnit
[02:04] <NongA_TongE> :)
[02:05] <alecb> ok so I tried my sound out with aplay and vlc and neither produce any sound.... what should I do to try and fix the problem?
[02:05] <nerdsrus45> how do i get to /var/log/jocky.log?
[02:06] <NongA_TongE> so it's still running from the last install.  I just can't see anything on the screen.  the last time i did it I got further than any time before.  I was able to select my username and password.  I just don't know how many other setup dialogues there are that I'm missing because I can't see.
[02:07] <wilee-nilee> NongA_TongE, Ah, well you could do a net install from the mini cd, it is a text install, or you might try adding the drivers from this PPA, I'm not sure if this requires a logout or reboot which makes it moot. http://www.howopensource.com/2012/10/install-nvidia-geforce-driver-in-ubuntu-12-10-12-04-using-ppa/
[02:08] <Snow-Man> gonna go out on a limb here, but...  anyone around that can help w/ launchpad account issues?
[02:08] <wilee-nilee> NongA_TongE, Actually that ppa is not covering 12.10 as of now.
[02:09] <NongA_TongE> wilee-nilee - how do I check md5sum of the disk or ISO?
[02:09] <wilee-nilee> !md5sum
[02:10] <steve_c> oh for fuck sake, if i can not get this new release of ubuntu working normally by the end of the weekend im giving up on it, i dont know what is happening up at conical but you guys earned he reputation of being the best easy to use distro out there, this is just nuts
[02:10] <wilee-nilee> NongA_TongE, First link is the easiest to follow.
[02:10] <blastedt> oh 12.10 is new? that explains this host of problems
[02:10]  * Snow-Man buys steve_c an 'easy' button
[02:11] <blastedt> steve_c: far more patience than I have, I might be done now
[02:11] <Snow-Man> what is the issue?
[02:11]  * Snow-Man has just seen a bunch of bitching, heh.
[02:11] <blastedt> nothing works, does that count as an issue
[02:11] <blastedt> the default driver crashes
[02:11] <blastedt> wrong display resolution
[02:11] <blastedt> the window manager crashes
[02:11] <blastedt> incredibly slow
[02:11] <FloodBot1> blastedt: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:12] <steve_c> networking issues, window manager issues, just installed the nvidia-current package because the default ones dont display properly
[02:12] <wilee-nilee> Remember the complaints will cause some users to not bother helping you.
[02:12] <steve_c> my window manager is not loading, it is a fresh install
[02:12] <Snow-Man> hrmm, odd.
[02:13] <blastedt> i had to manually disable default video drivers through command line just to install it, that alone took like an hour.  i appreciate the help and all wilee-nilee, but it's just too long a process for me
[02:13] <blackshirt> how to scan and use bluetooth devices through cli ? What tools needed
[02:13] <steve_c> wilee-nilee, i dont care about help at the moment, ubuntu earned a reputation, now ubuntu just looks stupid
[02:13] <wilee-nilee> steve_c, Then don't bother us with your opinions this is support, have a chill. ;)
[02:14] <tenX_> steve_c: since it turned purple by default
[02:14] <blackshirt> how to scan and use bluetooth devices through cli ? What tools needed?
[02:15] <NongA_TongE> wilee-nilee - the md5sum of the ISO is perfect.
[02:15] <escott> !info bluez | blackshirt
[02:17] <wilee-nilee> NongA_TongE, Cool, I would try the net install if it was me, if I thought I could get the graphic loaded after install. You might also try a usb, personally I would go with what gets it installed.
[02:17] <blastedt> thanks again for all the help guys, sorry it didnt end up working out.
[02:17] <blackshirt> thanks you
[02:17] <tenX_> blastedt: qry
[02:17] <craigbass1976> escott, ok...  I installed laptop-mode-tools again, didn't touch anything else, and issued a sudo shutdown -h now.  It worked.  Twice.  Then I unplugged power and find that just like some other people, it doesn't work on battery power.  I think might be close enough though -- I'll just make a button
[02:17] <Guest43888> I want to install theme in ubuntu 12.04 . but I don't know how to .some one help me
[02:17] <NongA_TongE> well it didn't go from the usb.
[02:18] <NongA_TongE> I tried that first.
[02:18] <NongA_TongE> when that wouldn't even start the installer, I burned the ISO to a dvd
[02:18] <NongA_TongE> and at least got the installer to start.
[02:19] <NongA_TongE> I guess I can try the net installer - but I don't know if I can get 10.04 to start again.
[02:19]  * Snow-Man hasn't touched 12.10 yet, heh.
[02:19] <piotr_> so is there any way to install ironhide for optimus enabled laptop cause i cant add ppa from website launchpad and i dont know how to install it manually?
[02:20] <escott> !ironhide
[02:20] <NongA_TongE> I think it's already begun  wiping the old install because when I started the installer this last time, it asked if I wanted to replace the existing install of 12.10
[02:20] <piotr_> !ironhide
[02:21] <escott> piotr_, thought there might be a factoid for it... there isnt
[02:21] <wilee-nilee> NongA_TongE, The live cd runs you could load the usb from there and download the mini.
[02:21] <NongA_TongE> I get the same problem when trying to run the live cd
[02:21] <NongA_TongE> I think.
[02:22] <wilee-nilee> NongA_TongE, You can't at the least run nomodeset and get the desktop to show?
[02:22] <wastrel> hi snuggle butts
[02:24] <NongA_TongE> it would show briefly, and then when I started the install, it would flicker and then go black.
[02:24] <NongA_TongE> trying again now.
[02:24] <wilee-nilee> NongA_TongE, we are not trying the install just downloading a tiny iso and loading the usb.
[02:25] <nerdsrus45> Well, I am so happy - got my dual monitor - extended working - and the right driver for my nvidia GTS450 :)
[02:25] <NongA_TongE> which iso?
[02:25] <NongA_TongE> I have ubuntu-12.10-i386.iso
[02:25] <wilee-nilee> NongA_TongE, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[02:25] <lenswipe> hey guys
[02:26] <lenswipe> can someone help
[02:26] <lenswipe> im using google chat on ubuntu 12.10
[02:26] <lenswipe> google hangout
[02:26] <wilee-nilee> that is a net install, you will have to add the desktop yourself when asked in the install NongA_TongE
[02:26] <lenswipe> i have a USB webcam with a builtin microphone, the mic works for about 10-20 seconds and then just stops working for reason
[02:26] <lenswipe> no reason*
[02:26] <lenswipe> it's a vanilla ubuntu install over the top of a debian install which worked fine with the cam and mic before
[02:27] <lenswipe> i would really apreciate help if anyone is able to
[02:27] <lenswipe> oh and the camera keeps freezing too
[02:27] <lenswipe> if anyone is able to help i would really apreaciate it
[02:28] <nerdsrus45> Damn - I thought I did - but when typing the wording sometimes goes to a thin black line - like someone took an ink marker and scribbled all over it - so wrong driver or wrong refresh - or resolution
[02:28] <nerdsrus45> CRAPOLA
[02:28] <NongA_TongE> ok,  I've got the live distro running.
[02:28] <NongA_TongE> from there, I manually set the display to 800x600
[02:28] <NongA_TongE> but...
[02:29] <Guest43888> partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary
[02:29] <Guest43888> some one help me .
[02:29] <Guest43888> partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary
[02:30] <escott> Guest43888, basically a warning that your current partition is a little too small or too large to be optimal. if you adjust it slightly (making it a multiple of say 1MB it might be a bit faster)
[02:30] <NongA_TongE> crap... selected firefox to go download, and it blacked out on me again.
[02:31] <Guest43888> escott , before , everything is ok .
[02:31] <wilee-nilee> NongA_TongE, Did you boot the cd with the f6 nomodeset option?
[02:31] <NongA_TongE> yes
[02:31] <NongA_TongE> ok.  just downloaded the mini.iso on my laptop.  you want me to extract it to a usb?
[02:32] <NongA_TongE> then try to run the install from the usb?
[02:32] <wilee-nilee> NongA_TongE, Download however you can and use a usb loader like unetbootin.
[02:32] <wilee-nilee> yes then install.
[02:33] <lenswipe> please help guys
[02:33] <lenswipe> :(
[02:33] <nerdsrus45> how do I install java for the 12.10?
[02:34] <escott> nerdsrus45, apt-get install openjdk-6-jre
[02:39] <NongA_TongE> wilee-nilee - installing unetbootin right now.
[02:41] <nerdsrus45> I'm downloading the nvidia driver for my gts450 from http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-amd64-304.60-driver.html - when I download it - how would i install the package?
[02:42] <Guest47197> hmmm... i've just changed my desktop environment to GNOME-Classic (hated unity, gaaah), and I want to add a shortcut to both mounted hard drives to the desktop,... how might I do that without changing their mount point? one is my '/' the other is just a secondary partition
[02:43] <OerHeks> thank you for letting us know any 15 minutes, for the last 12 hours Dreadtower
[02:44] <blackshirt> !info hcitool
[02:44] <johnnycupcake> so is there no way to add a shortcut to my filesystem and other storage devices to the desktop?
[02:45] <tomreyn> I just upgraded to 12.10 (from 12.04) and my first experience at boot is a blank screen exactly by the time i'm supposed to enter my disk crypto (LUKS) password.
[02:45] <sasori> hey all.  anyone know a keyboard short cut to go all windows 3d?  IE in mint maya, you can put the mouse to the top left, and it will show all open windows.
[02:45] <blackshirt> !info list bluez
[02:45] <escott> johnnycupcake, usually a symlink would do the trick
[02:45] <tomreyn> is this a known issue and if so, is there a workaround or fix?
[02:45] <johnnycupcake> escott: so I can just do an ln -s / /home/<username>/Desktop?
[02:46] <escott> johnnycupcake, you want a linkname ln -s / /home/username/Desktop/rootfs
[02:46] <johnnycupcake> oh yea ofcourse
[02:46] <johnnycupcake> sorry i knew that :-P
[02:46] <johnnycupcake> ok just making sure... thanks
[02:46] <johnnycupcake> :-)
[02:46] <NongA_TongE> wilee-nilee ...OK.  I have mini.iso loaded on a usb drive
[02:48] <wilee-nilee> NongA_TongE, Cool boot it and since it is a net install, make sure you have it plugged in with the etho cord, and install the text gui's are easy to follow, you will have a chance to load the desktop you want.
[02:48] <OerHeks> nerdsrus45, http://askubuntu.com/questions/149206/how-to-install-nvidia-run
[02:49] <bandit-led> i am getting random crashes with ivy bridge and ubuntu 12.10 any ideas?
[02:49] <bandit-led> complete lockups and have to hard reset no x-kill or tty
[02:49] <johnnycupcake> escott: i'm getting "Hard link not allowed for Directory
[02:50] <escott> johnnycupcake, did you not specify -s?
[02:50] <johnnycupcake> if i type in a link name it just tells me "no such file or directory"
[02:50] <johnnycupcake> yes
[02:50] <drakon1> hello, I downloaded an iso file, how can I watch it on my pc?
[02:50] <johnnycupcake> oh wait typo i think... i used 'S'
[02:52] <johnnycupcake> yea that was it thanks again escott... i just had the -s in uppercase
[02:52] <johnnycupcake> lol different parameter
[02:52] <NongA_TongE> wilee-nilee - it boots to a prompt.  "boot:"
[02:53] <NongA_TongE> not sure where to go from here.
[02:53] <cowsquad> Does anyone know good plugins for vim?
[02:54] <NongA_TongE> nevermind.  I'm dumb.
[02:54] <NongA_TongE> needed to type cli
[02:56] <wilee-nilee> cool
[02:56] <NongA_TongE> wilee-nilee  -  starts loading, then does the same thing... blacks out says it can't display this video mode.
[02:57] <wilee-nilee> NongA_TongE, Not sure what to say, this has gone beyond my help.
[03:00] <zork__> anyone else on Frontier having issues?
[03:02] <johnnycupcake> ok.. one other thing i need to do with Gnome-Classic...  since i got rid of unity i no longer have that nifty search utility... is there some alternative for index searching in gnome-classic?
[03:02] <tomreyn> feels like the window manager (XFWM) or rather radeon (r300) in general is faster on 12.10.
[03:03] <tomreyn> ...thank on 12.04
[03:03] <MrSalt> I've always used "locate" from the command line
[03:03] <NongA_TongE> wilee-nilee -  thanks for all your assistance.
[03:03] <bandit-led> johnnycupcake, try gnome do
[03:03] <NongA_TongE> I'll keep working at it
[03:04] <MrSalt> I've recently gone back to Genoo.  Did one install just fine, another install with ~amd64 for everything which caused me a lot of grief and emerge conflicts, now I'm afraid to use ~amd64 to get some of the more recent packages.
[03:05] <MrSalt> Oops, wrong channel  :)
[03:05] <bandit-led> ehehe
[03:05] <johnnycupcake> thanks bandit-led i'll give it a shot
[03:06] <escott> !bcm | jamescordrey
[03:06] <NongA_TongE> wonder if i should try 12.04 instead
[03:08] <pingUone> why would rm -fr /etc/apache2 and then sudo apt-get --reinstall install apache2    fail to install apache2?
[03:09] <escott> pingUone, because the package is not in /etc/apache2 thats just the config files. you want to purge it then reinstall
[03:11] <pingUone> I got it to come in but the new httpd.conf has 0bytes wtf?
[03:13] <escott> pingUone, its trying to respect your wishes regarding configuration files. it diffs the default config against your config (which you deleted) notes that they dont match and defaults to yours which gives you an empty file
[03:13] <NaZZaX> so i did a cobbler install and i get download installer failed no kernel modules were found..... any ideas how to bypass this?
[03:14] <pingUone> escott I want disrespect and install its defaults. How do I get it to stfu?
[03:14] <NaZZaX> can i just ignore this error?
[03:14] <pingUone> How do I do I CLEAN FULL DEFAULT reinstall of apache2?
[03:14] <pingUone> nuking /etc/apache2 fails miserably
[03:15] <escott> pingUone, i would just purge the package then reinstall
[03:16] <pingUone> nuking /etc/apache2 fails. what else can I purge?
[03:16] <pingUone> I need it dead
[03:16] <ardchoille> pingUone: "nuking" a dir isn't the same as purging
[03:16] <usr13_> pingUone: "nuking"?
[03:16] <ardchoille> usr13_: rm -rf
[03:16] <usr13_> hummmm.... ok
[03:17] <ardchoille> pingUone: I can't se any reason to be using rm -rf on a dir outside $HOME in the first place
[03:17] <pingUone> usr13_ got a cli command for me?
[03:17] <escott> pingUone, apt-get purge apache2
[03:17] <ardchoille> needs sudo
[03:17] <usr13_>    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^6
[03:17] <sporkboy> okay. it's acting like the config file is messed up. I've run into this before. on every distro I've run since debian potato. so where the bloody hell is the config FILE for power settings?
[03:18] <pingUone> TY![23~
[03:18] <pingUone> purge failed  :(
[03:19] <ardchoille> pingUone: explain what you did and any errors received
[03:20] <pingUone> ardchoille httpd.conf = 0 bytes
[03:20] <pingUone> arter install
[03:20] <ardchoille> pingUone: please explain how "purge failed"
[03:21] <usr13_> pingUone: Try complete sentences.
[03:23] <blackshirt> pinguone, have you delete the config files manually ?
[03:23] <blackshirt> config files or dir
[03:23] <ardchoille> blackshirt: he did a rm -rf on /etc/apache2
[03:23] <blackshirt> thats bad
[03:24] <ardchoille> agreed
[03:24] <pingUone> blackshirt I already did that
[03:24] <blackshirt> that would messed up your config file even you reinstall it
[03:24] <ardchoille> pingUone: what we're trying to tell you is that you shouldn't do that
[03:24] <pingUone> now I can't rebuild httpd.conf now even after a purge.
[03:24] <ardchoille> pingUone: sudo apt-get remove --purge apache2 && sudo apt-get install apache2
[03:25] <blackshirt> Pass conf-miss option to dpkg when install
[03:25] <blackshirt> Ardchoille, that was useless
[03:25] <usr13_> pingUone: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/httpd.html
[03:25] <ardchoille> blackshirt: please rephrase that to be more respectful in the future
[03:26] <johnnycupcake> is there a way to disable all desktop effects in Gnome (12.04)
[03:26] <blackshirt> arcdchoille, i mean, that step would not bring back the config files
[03:27] <johnnycupcake> normally in the older versions u could disable the effects in System-->Preferences-->appearance-->visual effects tab
[03:28] <escott> !classic
[03:28] <usr13_> pingUone: It is usually better to just fix what you have.  Re-installing is ok I guess but if you keep starting over, how do you make progress?
[03:29] <pingUone> still httpd.conf 0bytes wtf?
[03:29] <usr13_> pingUone: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/httpd.html
[03:29] <escott> that factoid needs updating. johnnycupcake you can install gnome-panel and metacity. if you pick gnome-panel session at the login and have metacity as your WM that will be no effects
[03:29] <johnnycupcake> oh
[03:29] <johnnycupcake> annoying
[03:29] <johnnycupcake> i thought just switching to gnome-classic would do it
[03:29] <escott> blackshirt, why would a purge followed by reinstall not install the default config files?
[03:30] <escott> johnnycupcake, not if compiz is the WM.
[03:30] <johnnycupcake> oh
[03:30] <pingUone> usr13_ that doc mentions nothing about repopulating httpd.conf
[03:31] <usr13_> pingUone: Yep, you are correct.
[03:31] <escott> pingUone, you can use the confmiss options to dpkg http://serverfault.com/questions/82801/linux-how-to-restore-config-file-using-apt-get-aptitude
[03:32] <johnnycupcake> sweet thanks escott again
[03:32] <johnnycupcake> it turned out i already had a GNOME-Classic (no effects) entry at the session selection in the login screen
[03:32]  * studio12 12.04.1 Installer: "Executing 'grub-install /dev/sda' failed. This is a fatal error."
[03:32] <escott> pingUone, the reason you have to use dpkg --force-confmiss is because whenever your config files are gone, dpkg assumes you deleted them on purpose, and that you want them to stay deleted. You can also reinstall them using the following apt-get line: apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" --reinstall install <packagename>
[03:33] <escott> i would have thought a purge would make dpkg forget everything, but i guess not
[03:33] <nick_h> how does one tell GNU Screen to create or attach to a session named "foo", and source a screen config file, in a single command?
[03:33] <escott> studio12, means it probably won't boot when you reboot. you will have to boot the livecd and try to manually instlal the bootloader
[03:33] <escott> !grub | studio12
[03:34] <ardchoille> escott: it used to but I guess that has changed
[03:34] <nick_h> i thought that "screen -d -RR -S foo -X source sl_screen.conf" would work, but it fails with "No screen session found."
[03:34] <escott> nick_h, does "foo" exist?
[03:34] <nick_h> escott: if it does, i want to attach to it. if it doesn't, i want to create it. all in one command
[03:35] <escott> nick_h, i suspect you need to check if it exists first
[03:36] <nick_h> escott: "screen -d -RR -S foo" does what i want...except if you give it the -X option
[03:38] <escott> nick_h, not enough of a screen expert to say
[03:39] <blackshirt> ardchoille, still there guys?
[03:39] <nick_h> escott: yeah, me neither.  =/
[03:42] <vp18> what can i use to access my seagate go flex home netwrok HDD via wireless router?
[03:43] <escott> vp18, what protocols does the go flex support?
[03:46] <escott> vp18, more than likely it supports SMB so open up the filemanager and type smb://hostname_of_goflex or just browse the network and you should see it. if it were nice it would support other protocols like ssh
[03:46] <robertzaccour> Will my webcam fps recording improve if I get a better graphics card?
[03:48] <escott> robertzaccour, probably not
[03:49] <NaZZaX> ok this os is starting to drive me nuts i keep getting kernal module failures during install
[03:49] <NaZZaX> and it will not let me choose another source
[03:49] <NaZZaX> whats wrong with it ?
[03:49] <robertzaccour> escott, I'm asking because guvcview is set on 30 fps and it records at 20 fps at the very most. According to logitech its supposed to record at 30 fps, but maybe thats if its used in windows and official logitech software?
[03:51] <escott> robertzaccour, it depends on what is limiting it. could be bandwith on the USB bus. could be that the CPU is maxed out, could be that the bus to central memory is maxed out, could be you can't get it off to disk fast enough.
[03:51] <pingUone> escott do you know the apache package to use for dpkg?
[03:51] <escott> robertzaccour, when you try to record and look at top what does it say
[03:52] <escott> pingUone, probable apache2.2-bin
[03:54] <robertzaccour> escott, 30 fps but after recording I check properties audio/video it said 15 fps
[03:54] <kandinski> what is a tenant?
[03:54] <kandinski> oops, wrong channel, sorry
[03:54] <robertzaccour> escott, maybe logitech made false claims on their webcam?
[03:55] <escott> robertzaccour, maybe you are only trying to encode at 15... don't know unless we see the commands you are using to record
[03:56] <robertzaccour> escott, Its gui
[04:00] <pingUone> cannot access archive: No such file or directory dpkg  do you have to populate dpkg?
[04:00] <robertzaccour> escott, I think I figured it out. I just changed the video codec from MJPG to MPG2-MPG2 and its now 30 fps
[04:00] <robertzaccour> escott, strange that guvcview defaults are low frames, avi instead of mkv, and an inferior video codec called MJPG.
[04:01] <pingUone> is it possible to blow apache up and get fresh and new? this ordeal is running 3 hrs now. what total trash.
[04:04] <knoppix> best way to install a dual boot ubuntu  or debian with windows?
[04:08] <ardchoille>  Flannel Thank you :)
[04:09] <Flannel> ardchoille: Thank you!
[04:09] <pingUone> dpkg -i --force-confmiss apache2.2-bin fails with 'cannot process archive' no such file or directory   wtf?
[04:09] <escott> pingUone, dpkg expects a deb file (and the full path to it) apt-get will take a package name and go get the deb for yuo
[04:09] <pingUone> where do I get this file?
[04:10] <pingUone> apt-get install apache2.2-bin??
[04:10] <pingUone> and it give me a .deb?
[04:10] <pingUone> where?
[04:10] <wols_> pingUone: yes
[04:10] <wols_> in /var/cache/apt/archives/
[04:10] <pingUone> where?
[04:11] <wols_> I just told you
[04:11] <escott> pingUone, the reason you have to use dpkg --force-confmiss is because whenever your config files are gone, dpkg assumes you deleted them on purpose, and that you want them to stay deleted. You can also reinstall them using the following apt-get line: apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" --reinstall install <packagename>
[04:11] <wols_> only if apt actually downloads it. otherwise, it's on the ubuntu http/ftp package archive
[04:14] <pingUone> escott apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss"
[04:14] <pingUone> +--reinstall install <packagename> FAILS!
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[04:22] <pingUone> can someone post a default httpd.conf so I can force fuck apt-get to work?
[04:28] <doomlord> can unity be set to permanently display the globalmenu instead of alternating with window title
[04:30] <fritzophrenic> For some time now I've been looking for a login greeter that shows the user pictures. I see that lightdm-kde has themes to do this. If I were to use lightdm-kde, would I be able to still log into a gnome session?
[04:30] <fritzophrenic> so far I haven't found any docs for this greeter
[04:31] <fritzophrenic> only a few screenshots
[04:40] <AxisOfEval> are there any plans to support the latest PostgreSQL and PostGIS, or do I go the PPA way?
[04:46] <tripelb> when is lifeispain around?
[04:46] <ray76> Can you remove the indicator-messages package without messing with the box? its to remove the mail icon
[04:48] <pingUone> I had to hack an httpd.conf on and this is my last error I cannot solve  ->  [Fri Oct 26 00:45:04 2012] [warn] NameVirtualHost *:80 has no VirtualHosts    http://pastie.org/5118244
[04:52] <Guest17934> ...
[04:52] <cweagans> pingUone: ls sites-enabled  please
[04:55] <pingUone> cweagans sites enabled?
[04:55] <cweagans> pingUone: ls /etc/apache2/sites-enabled
[04:56] <frybye> Hi - at the moment I have win7 and 12.10 as a dual boot system with selection via a grub2 splash screen.. If I update the win7 to win8 will I be able to get the boot selection with grub2 back
[04:56] <frybye> I have read somewhere that win8 demands a reboot into the alternative OS - anybody know about this...?
[04:57] <cweagans> frybye: it shouldn't be a problem. Just install windows 8, and if you have problems, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[04:57] <frybye> please don't send me to #windows - because -there the moment I mention ubuntu they wills end me here.. ;=)
[04:57] <cweagans> frybye: old post, but instructions in OP should still work
[04:58] <pingUone> cweagans I have sites-available but not and enable
[04:58] <cweagans> pingUone: sudo mkdir /etc/apache2/sites-enabled
[04:58] <frybye> cweagans - yeah that is how I have done it a few times in the past - but no sure if windows 8 will allow/facilitate that...
[04:58] <cweagans> pingUone: sudo a2ensite default
[04:59] <cweagans> frybye: it's just an OS. what's it going to do, jump off the disk? You're in control. You tell it who's boss. :)
[04:59] <frybye> cweagans:  in fact I have used some other boot recovery thing.. hmmm...
[04:59] <wilee-nilee> frybye, Not sure if W8 has changed but I had a tryout install about 6 months ago with no boot problems, W8 booted really fast, not sure if it was using a hybrid sleep.
[05:00] <cweagans> pingUone: oh, and  sudo apache2ctl graceful
[05:00] <cweagans> Okay, so I installed 12.10 without a swap partition (I know, I knowвҖҰ). Now I have a swap partition created. Do I have to do anything special for it to start working?
[05:01] <tripelb> I am going to p foe mac. this time I got a version meant for Mac Ubuntu on a usb
[05:02] <wilee-nilee> cweagans, long as its mounted it should be running
[05:02] <tripelb> any advice for me?
[05:02] <cweagans> okay. wilee-nilee, the only thing that I did was create the partition in gparted, right click on the partition and click swapon.
[05:03] <wilee-nilee> cweagans, Should run at startup
[05:03] <codefyre> cweagans: you need to add the new swap partition to /etc/fstab
[05:04] <codefyre> UUID=?  none   swap    sw      0       0
[05:04] <codefyre> find out uuid using blkid
[05:07] <cweagans> codefyre: how do I check if it's mounted or not? I added the line to /etc/fstab and rebooted
[05:07] <codefyre> cweagans, swapon -s
[05:11] <Hwkiller> http://i.imgur.com/s0HTo.png <-- on linux
[05:12] <Ian_Corne> with a windows xp start bar?
[05:13] <Ian_Corne> task bar*
[05:13] <Hwkiller> lol
[05:13] <Hwkiller> I'm running xp using qemu/kvm and a dedicated x session just so I don't have to dualboot to watch netflix
[05:14] <yyu> i use "cscope -Rbqk" to generate cscope.ou,but i can not find the defination of "printf" fuction by use "cs f g printf"
[05:15] <Hwkiller> so when I log in, it asks if I want windows xp or spectrwm :p
[05:15] <Hwkiller> I hit w and type "startx" when I'm ready
[05:16] <yyu> how can i find the defination of "printf" successfully?
[05:16] <pingUone> how do I do an http redirect where if someone goes to url myDomain.com/w  goto 8.8.8.8?
[05:18] <OerHeks> yyu > http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man1/printf.1.html
[05:20] <codefyre> pingUone: using apache ?
[05:20] <yyu> OerHeks:It is just a example.i want to find the defination by cscope tool,but now i can only find the defination of fuction created by me
[05:24] <mctech27> hello/
[05:26] <fego> !ask | mctech27
[05:26] <mctech27> Ok thanks, apologies...
[05:33] <pingUone> Can anyone tell me why apache is choaking on DENY in my proxy directive?  http://pastebin.com/whqfrq9b
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> pingUone:what u mean choking
[05:40] <pingUone> Syntax error on line 9 of /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/proxy.conf:
[05:40] <pingUone> lotuspsychje ^^
[05:41] <lotuspsychje> pingUone:can u detail more mate, what u trying to do
[05:41] <excervo> pingUone, you can also ask help from ubuntu-server
[05:41] <ChrisPartridge> is there something similar to tcpdump, for udp?
[05:42] <celthunder> ChrisPartridge: wireshark?
[05:42] <celthunder> should do udp and tcp
[05:43] <tenX_> ChrisPartridge: tcpdump ;)
[05:44] <ChrisPartridge> celthunder: Yeah but all seems to be GTK based, i just want console
[05:45] <Ascavasaion> Is it worth upgrading from 12.04 to 12.10?  And how large is the upgrae?
[05:45] <Ascavasaion> upgrade
[05:45] <pingUone> lotuspsychje trying to get mod_proxy up and running
[05:48] <ChrisPartridge> ahh, tshark is console based wireshark.. woo
[05:49] <pingUone> lotuspsychje ?
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> pingUone:maybe this can help: http://abhirama.wordpress.com/2008/11/03/apache-mod_proxy-in-ubuntu/
[05:53] <eedeep> hi there does anyone know, I just set up a dual boot system with 12.04 for my friend and when he opens thunar or nautilus they both show his windows C: partition as a volume in the left hand side pane
[05:53] <eedeep> does anyone know how to stop that?
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> !ntfs | eedeep
[05:57] <eedeep> ubottu: yeah I've got all that sorted ...what I want is to *not* see the C: drive partition in thunar and/or nautilus
[05:57] <eedeep> haha
[05:57] <lotuspsychje> eedeep:with same ntfs-3g you can choose to 'not mount' the ntfs partition
[06:01] <eedeep> lotuspsychje: oh yeah right is that by using "notauto" ?
[06:01] <eedeep> sorry "noauto"
[06:02] <[JJ]Albert> No sound. 12.10. ALSA. Realtek ALC889. Help?
[06:02] <ThePendulum> Hey
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> eedeep:you can start the gui and disable automatic mount yes
[06:03] <ThePendulum> I was wondering if anyone else had issues connecting their S3 to an Ubuntu system, and solved them. It works perfectly for a while, and then all of the sudden it won
[06:03] <[JJ]Albert> I've got no sound in 12.10
[06:03] <ThePendulum> 't connect anymore ihatemyenter
[06:03] <eedeep> lotuspsychje: oh yeah but I like the automatic mount in those programs for when you insert usb sticks and stuff
[06:03] <[JJ]Albert> I don't use pulse, but ALSA. No sound for 12.10
[06:04] <[JJ]Albert> I tried reinstalling ALSA. 3 Times.
[06:04] <[JJ]Albert> Now technically, I use xubuntu, but this is a hardware problem in general.
[06:04] <[JJ]Albert> And #xubuntu is dead.
[06:04] <lotuspsychje> Albert:did you try soundcard drivers
[06:04] <[JJ]Albert> Yes, it's a Realtek ALC889, and I've never seen drivers for that. Just standard ALSA stuff.
[06:05] <[JJ]Albert> Shall I try a few commands to give you ideas?
[06:05] <lotuspsychje> Albert: did you check logs for any issues with sound?
[06:05] <lotuspsychje> /var/log/syslog
[06:05] <[JJ]Albert> I'll check that.
[06:06] <lotuspsychje> need to findout whats the prob first
[06:06] <[JJ]Albert> Right, I've been meaning to do that. All the other failsafe solutions, well, failed. :p
[06:07] <[JJ]Albert> Checking syslog now
[06:08] <[JJ]Albert> I'm  not finding anything about ALSA. Should I be looking for something really specific, like my soundchip?
[06:09] <[JJ]Albert> Because that pulls up nothing, either.
[06:09] <[JJ]Albert> The strange thing is that ALSA does load. And I can go in and change the volume settings and all that.
[06:09] <[JJ]Albert> But I have no sound.
[06:09] <Weox> hello, my Cpu is Atlm N450 , i should install i686 or x86 version ??
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> what about u try tail -f /var/log/syslog
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> and start messing with sound
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> so you can see in realtime
[06:10] <[JJ]Albert> It is not posting anything.
[06:10] <sobolev> +i sobolev
[06:11] <Ascavasaion> Is it worth upgrading from 12.04 to 12.10?  And how large is the upgrade?
[06:11] <[JJ]Albert> If you are lucky, it'd work fine. I'm having audio issues right now though.
[06:11] <[JJ]Albert> But I'm just unlucky, naturally.
[06:11] <[JJ]Albert> As for time, depends.
[06:12] <[JJ]Albert> It download for me in about... 2 hours.
[06:12] <[JJ]Albert> That was a little bit ago, today.
[06:12] <lotuspsychje> maybe also restart albert
[06:12] <lotuspsychje> alsa
[06:12] <[JJ]Albert> restart alsa, you say.
[06:12] <[JJ]Albert> Because I've reinstalled it 3 times, and restarted the same number of times.
[06:13] <[JJ]Albert> But you mean restart alsa itself.
[06:13] <lotuspsychje> u sure u got correct drivers?
[06:13] <silare> How do I change the menu bar font size for Unity? IT's too small for me to read...
[06:13] <[JJ]Albert> What should I put in for it to tell me what drivers are installed, even?
[06:14] <lotuspsychje> check logs if sound module loads correctly
[06:14] <lotuspsychje> or doublecheck additional drivers
[06:14] <lotuspsychje> or check synaptic for 'realtek' modules
[06:17] <lolek> hello all
[06:18] <lolek> a question, how can i copy all the information from the window that pop up after application crashed... ?
[06:19] <lotuspsychje> lolek:you mean here in chat?
[06:19] <lolek> lotuspsychje: i mean i'd like to copy that to mail
[06:19] <lotuspsychje> copy paste?
[06:19] <lolek> lotuspsychje: yep
[06:19] <lotuspsychje> lolek:select txt and copy it?
[06:19] <lolek> lotuspsychje: copy & paste (but ctrl +c & ctrl +v is not working)
[06:19] <pranav> how to show the menu bar in application's on unity
[06:20] <pranav> i mean in a normal way
[06:20] <[JJ]Albert> Ugh... OK, I check synaptic. there's no realtek modules there.
[06:21] <pranav> i need to make a snapshots for my application, and i would not prefer showing the whole space just for the menubar actions :(
[06:21] <pranav> any idea guys ?
[06:21] <beliveyourdream> hi all ... how do i make pidgin stay on the workspace i want ? it always move so workspace 1
[06:22] <[JJ]Albert> Augh, I am at my wits end.
[06:22] <grendal_prime> i have a new system76  im a little perterbed with the fact that i cant play anthing with opengl
[06:22] <grendal_prime> everybody just raved this intel graphics card
[06:22] <grendal_prime> but i cant figure out how to get it working right
[06:22] <[JJ]Albert> Lol, cus its intel. :p
[06:23] <grendal_prime> Intel HD Graphics 4000
[06:23] <[JJ]Albert> Again, intel graphics suck.
[06:23] <[JJ]Albert> I know from experience. :p
[06:23] <grendal_prime> ya thats what i thought as well..but the word was this one was great
[06:24] <[JJ]Albert> Still sucks in relation to ATI and Nvidia.
[06:24] <grendal_prime> system76 just does ubuntu laptops
[06:24] <[JJ]Albert> Ugh, yeh, foul mood here over ALSA... :
[06:24] <[JJ]Albert> :
[06:25] <[JJ]Albert> Curses, why did I choose to use my mac keyboard today. :p
[06:25] <[JJ]Albert> :/
[06:25] <grendal_prime> pot?
[06:25] <defekt> foul moods .. yeah i'm in a foul mood as well sick of ubuntu updates being broken
[06:25] <grendal_prime> that keyboard sucks
[06:25] <hallofick> i see
[06:25] <beliveyourdream> anyone ?
[06:25] <hallofick> o/
[06:25] <[JJ]Albert> Er, the heck? Anyways...\
[06:26] <[JJ]Albert> Where was that key when I needed it. :p
[06:26] <grendal_prime> this blows everything on this machine works great..accpet for the video
[06:26] <Calinou> laptops with some linux distro preinstalled?
[06:26] <Calinou> congrats, you've been scammed.(R)
[06:26] <[JJ]Albert> ^
[06:26] <[JJ]Albert> Real men build their computers.
[06:27] <grendal_prime> its not BAD i guess..is not like i play video games..everything seems fine..untell i try and play zero balistics
[06:27] <[JJ]Albert> Real men with massive disposable incomes make laptops, somehow. :'
[06:27] <grendal_prime> the dell machine i got with ubuntu preinstalled was great
[06:27] <grendal_prime> nvidia card in it
[06:28] <grendal_prime> screamed..still does..but they asked me if i wanted something new..got an i7. with 4 gigs
[06:28] <grendal_prime> runs a shitload of vm's on it wich i need
[06:28] <[JJ]Albert> Grendal, your name is so... So not something I can put words to. Oher than I'm imagining a giant monster sitting infront of a tiny, cheap laptop.
[06:29] <grendal_prime> but it would be nice if it would..well at least try and run a game.
[06:29] <grendal_prime> ?
[06:29] <[JJ]Albert> You could probably play Quake. :3
[06:29] <grendal_prime> maybe
[06:29] <[JJ]Albert> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grendel
[06:29] <grendal_prime> my kid likes zero balistics though
[06:30] <[JJ]Albert> Well curses man, tell the kid no.
[06:30] <grendal_prime> i got the name from fencing
[06:30] <[JJ]Albert> It's your, ahem, probably overpriced laptop.
[06:30] <grendal_prime> in college.
[06:30] <[JJ]Albert> Hmm
[06:30] <[JJ]Albert> I dunno how fencing goes.
[06:30] <[JJ]Albert> :p
[06:30] <grendal_prime> i7 for 600 bucks?
 Real men build their computers.
[06:30] <Calinou> it's more expensive than buying a computer with windows
[06:30] <Calinou> no discounts
[06:31] <[JJ]Albert> Real men make deals with the devil.
[06:31] <Calinou> no u
[06:31] <[JJ]Albert> Or, they keep old cases around. :p
[06:31] <grendal_prime> i didnt pay for it the company did
[06:31] <grendal_prime> and like i say it does everything i need for them.
[06:31] <[JJ]Albert> I actually built my rig for a good price. AMD, sure, but good specs for less than 200.
[06:32] <[JJ]Albert> It's half-way done though. :p
[06:32] <grendal_prime> would just be cool if i could use it for a game every now and again.
[06:32] <grendal_prime> 200 bucks for a laptop that i can demo  12 vms on?
[06:32] <[JJ]Albert> Y'know all, I'm now too tired to wanna figure out the sound issue.
[06:32] <grendal_prime>  i doubt it
[06:33] <[JJ]Albert> I'll prolly just get to it tomorrow.
[06:35] <tripelb> [JJ]Albert: what laptop?  what weight?  I need light.
[06:35] <[JJ]Albert> Meh?
[06:36] <tripelb>  great price.
[06:36] <[JJ]Albert> Uh... What?
[06:36] <tripelb> right.  your $200 one
[06:38] <[JJ]Albert> I, uh, don't have a 200 dollar laptop.
[06:38] <[JJ]Albert> What I did was frankenstein a new machine with a new Mobo and CPU, and new ram and dvd drive.
[06:38] <[JJ]Albert> But everything else is handmedown parts.
[06:39] <[JJ]Albert> And it all came out around 200.
[06:39] <grendal_prime> tripelb, i have an acer 255d i think i is in my bag, i paid 250 bucks for it..it has an acutal quad (multithreaded) atom in it
[06:39] <grendal_prime> its a great machine and small.
[06:39] <tripelb> how light.  please
[06:40] <[JJ]Albert> Also, sound is not working for me still. Haven't done anything since the pitiful help I got several, like 10-15 minutes ago.
[06:40] <Egbert9e9> I get "Method  has died unexpectedly!"
[06:40] <Egbert9e9> when apt-get install mono-complete
[06:40] <grendal_prime> tripelb, couple pounds if that.
[06:40] <grendal_prime> runs ubuntu 12.04 great
[06:40] <[JJ]Albert> As I can tell, stuff is getting annoyingly crazy here. Too crazy for my sleep-depraved brain to handle.
[06:40] <grendal_prime> its a aspire one.
[06:40] <Egbert9e9> it's 12.04
[06:41] <[JJ]Albert> Later, all...
[06:41] <grendal_prime> get back to your pipe bro
[06:41] <tripelb> wow thanks.  I am on android so o sentthat to. me in a the text message
[06:42] <tripelb> thanks grendal_prime
[06:42] <djlynux> hey guys...any update about ubuntu steam suport?
[06:42] <grendal_prime> np...the 255d i think it is...thats the quad core.
[06:42] <grendal_prime> there is a cheeper one..but its damn slow compaired to that one
[06:43] <tripelb> 255d aspire one grendal_prime .. where did you get it.  better than nexus 7
[06:46] <greenmang0_> hello friends, how to write a service which can be controlled through "sudo service myservice start" ? any pointers to the documentation please?
[06:46] <grendal_prime> tripelb, i got it at costco about a year ago
[06:46] <grendal_prime> i bought two..
[06:47] <grendal_prime> they came with windows but i ditched that and installed 10.04
[06:47] <grendal_prime> http://www.epinions.com/reviews/Acer_Aspire_One_AOD255_2509_10_1_Inch_Netbook_Diamond_Black_LUSDE0D160?sb=1
[06:47] <tripelb> I would too grendal_prime thanks
[06:47] <grendal_prime> thats what it looks like..but mine has 4 cores on it.
[06:47] <Calinou> djlynux: nope.
[06:48] <grendal_prime> they are on ebay now for about 200 bucks
[06:48] <grendal_prime> great machines..only problem i have with them is sometimes the suspend will fail, but i think that has something to do with what program im running
[06:49] <grendal_prime> i throw them in my bags and then run themselves down because they dont suspend
[06:49] <Rosi> hi there
[06:49] <grendal_prime> they will run for 3 hours though
[06:49] <tripelb> grendal_prime: I would like to keep in touch.  shouldn't I wait till black Fri?
[06:49] <grendal_prime> even now and they are almost to years old
[06:49] <peepsalot> how do i configure vpn in ubuntu 12.04
[06:50] <tripelb> Mac hibernate flawlessly
[06:50] <grendal_prime> not mine
[06:50] <grendal_prime> white screen on wake
[06:50] <grendal_prime> for 5 min
[06:50] <tripelb> eww
[06:50] <tripelb> I am spoiled
[06:51] <tripelb> gre
[06:51] <Guest91004> Yooo yo yo whats happening all!?!
[06:51] <Egbert9e9> guess noone knows
[06:52] <tripelb> grendal_prime: but the 5 lbmac is too heavy and too old.  80g HD
[06:58] <arunkumar413> hi, sound problem in ubuntu 12.10
[06:58] <arunkumar413> the out put sound device is dummy output
[06:58] <arunkumar413> please hlep
[06:59] <Calinou> grendal_prime: suspending is pointless
[06:59] <Calinou> takes more time than a reboot
[06:59] <grendal_prime> ?
[06:59] <grendal_prime> no..i dont think you get the point
[07:00] <grendal_prime> on that machine its small..you open..get addresses..check on your virtual project..from wifi..its fast..2 seconds max..your up and working..
[07:00] <Calinou> you know you can save the list of oppened apps?
[07:01] <grendal_prime> no dude you dont understand..its a lunchtime..on the road checking tool.
[07:01] <grendal_prime> like a phone but usefull
[07:02] <grendal_prime> i run my gmail account throught it...make calls...calendering, check on my kids homeschool progress..
[07:02] <grendal_prime> literally i open it ..its right where i was last time.
[07:02] <grendal_prime> it works very well..
[07:02] <arunkumar413> hi  friends, my system has a sound problem. it's not detecting my sound card. the device shows dummy output. please help
[07:02] <tripelb> I love the instant wake withe all open and ready
[07:02] <grendal_prime> unless im listening to music..then it does not want to suspend.  its an app setting i think
[07:03] <grendal_prime> ya tripelb its the most functioal computer i have ever owned..
[07:03] <grendal_prime> i had a dell mini and it worked well but this thing has 4 times the horsepower.
[07:03] <Calinou> arunkumar413: make sure speakers/headphones are correctly plugged in
[07:03] <grendal_prime> and i have built presentations on it in a pinch.
[07:03] <Calinou> and try to reboot
[07:04] <arunkumar413> yes
[07:04] <tripelb> arunkumar413: this channel needs you to explain all in one line.  not an intro.  include your system description too
[07:04] <arunkumar413> Calinou, i'm using the internal speakers of my notebook
[07:04] <grendal_prime> it fits in my large coat pocket as well
[07:04] <grendal_prime> and has an external vga ..(like what doesnt right?) but this one is actually usable
[07:04] <arunkumar413> tripelb, my system has a centrino processor, 4gb ram, nvidia geforce graphic card
[07:05] <grendal_prime> and a huge penis
[07:05] <guest-I6yKV1> HOW can I UNLOCK MY ADMIN ACCOUNT?
[07:05] <grendal_prime> oops
[07:05] <grendal_prime> sorry
[07:05] <grendal_prime> i just thought that was comming next
[07:05] <tripelb> cool grendal_prime just that is 2 yrs old.  is it faster than nexus 7
[07:05] <penguinhead> is it possible to use a usb storage device as a swap, in case one runs out of swap for instance?
[07:05] <aeon-ltd> penguinhead: i wouldn't
[07:06] <grendal_prime> not sure..but its cheep and like i say it has an actual keyboard wich i have to have.
[07:06] <tripelb> !ask arunkumar413
[07:06] <aeon-ltd> penguinhead: usb is too slow
[07:06] <penguinhead> aeon: wouldn't , but could?
[07:06] <grendal_prime> anyway im not selling mine. im just saying
[07:06] <tripelb> I goofed but how
[07:06] <prodnix> guest-I6yKV1: sudo passwd
[07:07] <prodnix> guest-I6yKV1: su root
[07:07] <aeon-ltd> penguinhead: yes it can
[07:08] <tripelb> grendal_prime: you have opened my eyes.  and I didn't mean Yours I meant theDesign is old.  chips.  2 years long in the field.  ipad1
[07:08] <tripelb> was back then
[07:09] <grendal_prime> ya good point. Just saying they may be really cheep now and mine still keeps up quite well.
[07:09] <grendal_prime> wifi always works.
[07:10] <arunkumar413> tripelb, ??
[07:10] <tripelb> aeon-ltd: I am planning on running Ubuntu off a USB.  really that much slower?
[07:10] <grendal_prime> i have heard that the power plug is one that can be troublesome..(it can fatigue over time and come loose from the board) but ive not experienced this.  Something to look at if getting one though
[07:11] <penguinhead> thanks aeon! realistically speaking, however does one need a swap if one has so much RAM?
[07:11] <cweagans> aeon-ltd: what do you mean usb is too slow? Windows Vista's big thing was ReadyBoost, which basically used a USB stick as swap.
[07:11] <grendal_prime> thats the only problem i have heard about them though
[07:11] <cweagans> right?
[07:11] <aeon-ltd> cweagans: yeah and it sucked
[07:11] <cweagans> aeon-ltd: it was great for already-slow machines that couldn't be upgraded any further.
[07:11] <aeon-ltd> tripelb: when you run ubuntu on usb it will be partially loaded into ram
[07:11] <cweagans> aeon-ltd: and I could totally see it being useful for super low ram embedded systems or something
[07:12] <penguinhead> yes, tripelb, it is slow to run off a usb - i would rather run #! off a usb if you need to do something productive, and quick
[07:13] <aeon-ltd> cweagans: as a last resort yes, but you could reduce ram usage as much as possible first
[07:13] <cweagans> fair enough
[07:13] <Ascavasaion> Is it worth upgrading from 12.04 to 12.10?  And how large is the upgrade?
[07:13] <tripelb> question: how come win 98 will do internet with 90M RAM ad Ubuntu -or any Linux- won't
[07:14] <pipe_> hello, i need help. can i write my problem?
[07:14] <hallofick> yes
[07:14] <cweagans> tripelb: boot damn small linux and tell me it won't.
[07:14] <Ascavasaion> Because win98 runs on a 1998 machine :)
[07:14] <aeon-ltd> tripelb: i can boot to 30-40mb ram
[07:14] <tripelb> !ask | pipe_
[07:14] <Ascavasaion> tripelb: Try puppylinux... /join #puppylinux
[07:15] <guest-I6yKV1> HOW can I UNLOCK MY ADMIN ACCOUNT?
[07:15] <arunkumar413> tripelb, how to restore the sound
[07:15] <cweagans> guest-I6yKV1: what do you mean by unlock your admin account?
[07:15] <guest-I6yKV1> i forgot the password
[07:15] <aeon-ltd> guest-I6yKV1: explain more
[07:15] <prodnix> guest-I6yKV1: Ive already answered you
[07:15] <pipe_> ok, thanks. the first sorry for my english, im spanish
[07:15] <guest-I6yKV1> =\
[07:15] <tripelb> cweagans: I will remember you.  I have a friend who has that.  I asked for months and gave IP
[07:15] <hallofick> en que necesitas ayuda pipe_
[07:15] <prodnix> guest-I6yKV1: Tip, dont forget your password
[07:15] <hallofick> yo puedo ayudarte tal vez
[07:16] <guest-I6yKV1> any help plz
[07:16] <cweagans> prodnix++
[07:16] <tripelb> aeon-ltd: I wastold no.  which is do you use?
[07:16] <aeon-ltd> tripelb: arch
[07:17] <cweagans> guest-I6yKV1: boot into recovery, sudo passwd youruser, choose new password. Done. Or you could RTFM: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword
[07:17] <aeon-ltd> tripelb: with dwm or openbox, it gets to <40mb easily
[07:17] <pipe_> hallofick tengo un netbook hp dm1-4130ss con ubuntu 12.04 and w7 dual boot. La webcam Truevision HD funciona en w7 pero en ubuntu no, en la instalaciГіn de ubuntu si llegГі a funcionar pero despuГ©s nunca mГЎs ha vuelto.
[07:17] <tripelb> Ascavasaion OK will do
[07:17] <pipe_> I have a netbook hp dm1-4130ss with Ubuntu 12.04 and w7 dual boot. The TrueVision HD webcam w7 works in ubuntu but not in the installation of ubuntu if you came to work but then never came back.
[07:18] <tripelb> guest-I6yKV1: 1 st CAPS are considered rude.  Like screaming.
[07:18] <prodnix> cweagans: Does that work for root too?
[07:18] <guest-I6yKV1> sorry
[07:18] <cweagans> prodnix: probably. The link explains it all with screenshots though.
[07:19] <tripelb> guest-I6yKV1: next you use the Audi command and your password.
[07:19] <tripelb> !ask | guest-I6yKV1
[07:19] <penguinhead> it does. in fact it's that easy to hack into an ubuntu installation - go into recovery and change the root password
[07:19] <prodnix> cweagans: That kinda sux, so if someone has physical access to your machine they can hijack it?
[07:19] <cweagans> prodnix: well yeah. That's true of just about any machine ever.
[07:20] <cweagans> prodnix: bios password ftw, though.
[07:20] <Calinou> penguinhead: ANY distro actually
[07:20] <Calinou> and ANY os
[07:20] <aeon-ltd> cweagans: remove cmos
[07:20] <cweagans> eh?
[07:20] <penguinhead> Calinou: true on all counts
[07:20] <chaotix> HI...  after a fresh install of Xubuntu 12.04, wifi is not recognised at all...  i have ethernet plugged in for now so i can hopefully fix this with all of your help.   after clicking additional drivers, it said no prop drivers in use...  so i googled some stuff, and i went into synaptic and i installed bcmwl-kernel-source and b43-fwcutter, still nothing showing up...  wireless is enabled in the nm-applet
[07:20] <chaotix> please help if u can
[07:20] <cweagans> chaotix: what kind of network card do you have?
[07:21] <aeon-ltd> cweagans: removing the cmos battery will remove the password
[07:21] <chaotix> broadcom b43
[07:21] <aeon-ltd> cweagans: of you could just use the jumpers
[07:21] <aeon-ltd> *or
[07:21] <Basil1x> :(
[07:21] <chaotix> i forget the command that you can enter into the terminal that tells you thats what you have, but i did that an hour ago
[07:21] <chaotix> forgot the cmd is called though
[07:21] <cweagans> aeon-ltd: oh, well yeah. There's always a way around it. But setting a bios password and a locking computer case will fix 95% of the threat
[07:21] <aeon-ltd> uname -a ?
[07:22] <cweagans> chaotix: lspci
[07:22] <penguinhead> OTHO ubuntu off a usb stick (or any distro) can peep into a Windows partition and steal all the files
[07:22] <tripelb> guest-I6yKV1: sorry damnautocorrect.  use the Audi.  oh your password.  I know what to do
[07:22] <aeon-ltd> penguinhead: only if unencrypted
[07:22] <chaotix> thanks...  its 3am here
[07:22] <tripelb> no the sudo
[07:22] <pipe_> my webcam buil-it HP Truevision HD is detected in Ubuntu 12.04 (lsusb display) but not working, however in w7 works. i think have a problem with  uvcvideo
[07:23] <chaotix> oh there was a shorter one i knew of ....but cweagans if it would help i can put a pastebiun of the lspci output link here
[07:23] <cweagans> chaotix: please pastebin. I'll take a look.
[07:24] <tripelb> guest-I6yKV1: you have to boot into grub and edit one of the terminal commands.  then you boot into a root shell and change your password.
[07:24] <tripelb> some details forgotten
[07:25] <penguinhead> quite, but it can copy them and if they're your files its the easiest data recovery solution?
[07:25] <tripelb> like what/howyou edit and which command.  it is just passing something on the end of the command
[07:26] <chaotix> cweagans,   http://pastebin.com/2LB1jzJu
[07:27] <pipe_> i am going to reboot, now back
[07:27] <chaotix> thanks in advance  :)  i appreciate your taking the effort
[07:29] <cweagans> chaotix: out of curiosity, have you considered an upgrade to 12.10?
[07:30] <chaotix> cweagans, sure
[07:30] <chaotix> ill give it a go
[07:30] <chaotix> should i just apt-get dist-upgrade?  its a fresh install
[07:31] <chaotix> this prob would have been so much wasier for me in the old gnome lol
[07:31] <penguinhead> whois %s batrick
[07:31] <cweagans> chaotix: that might solve it - no promises. But when I was messing with my broadcom card a year or two ago, a dist-upgrade fixed it in like 15 minutes.
[07:31] <chaotix> im not as used to xfce
[07:31] <cweagans> chaotix: yeah
[07:31] <cweagans> I hear ya :)
[07:32] <chaotix> on another subject, is there a way to make the desktop shortcuts act like a hyperlink style one click open?  it would be good for what i am setting up
[07:32] <chaotix> in xubuntu
[07:33] <penguinhead> chaotix: are you setting up a windows 8 like tiling interface?
[07:33] <chaotix> never seen it so i am not sure
[07:34] <chaotix> maybe
[07:34] <chaotix> the icons are really big
[07:34] <chaotix> and my xfce panel is about 50 pixels
[07:34] <penguinhead> unity interface?
[07:34] <chaotix> im using an old pos computer as an htpc on my tv
[07:34] <chaotix> maybe that would be better
[07:35] <chaotix> im open to suggestions
[07:35] <chaotix> i think gnome 3 might be nice on here too
[07:35] <penguinhead> http://www.howtogeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/image.png
[07:35] <chaotix> the reason im not doing it on this particular pc is that its a turtle
[07:36] <penguinhead> hence xfce?
[07:36] <chaotix> right
[07:36] <chaotix> lubuntu was kind of buggy
[07:36] <chaotix> otherwise i like it
[07:36] <chaotix> maybe its just my computer
[07:36] <penguinhead> why not openbox?
[07:36] <chaotix> maybe
[07:36] <chaotix> with a dock
[07:37] <chaotix> oh i dont want it to look like win 8
[07:37] <penguinhead> could work
[07:37] <chaotix> this xfce look i am working on looks good now
[07:37] <chaotix> ill put up a screenshot in a few mins
[07:37] <chaotix> mostly i use xbmc anyway
[07:38] <sirlark> hi, I'm runnign ubuntu server, and I'm trying to find where mysql is being started on boot. I can't find a symlink to it in any of /etc/rc*.d
[07:38] <chaotix> found somethng really cool on the xbmc wiki
[07:38] <chaotix> ...
[07:39] <chaotix> http://flirc.tv/
[07:39] <chaotix> anyone have experience with flirc?
[07:40] <c0rnel> hello all
[07:40] <CreepDeck> Hi
[07:40] <c0rnel> a friend of mine has found it''s language (system wide) was change. the version is 12.04
[07:41] <c0rnel> how can the system be reverted back to english system-wide?
[07:44] <chaotix> cweagans, thats weird, dist-upgrade did nothing
[07:44] <zork__> chaotix, you might try madbox if you'd rather stick with an ubuntu base; openbox, lxpanel, nitrogen, not much else.  I'm using 12.04.  #! is based on debian squeeze or wheezy.
[07:44] <chaotix> is there another way i can upgrade to 12.10 from within xubuntu?
[07:45] <chaotix> thx, zork__
[07:45] <bekks> chaotix: do-release-upgrade
[07:45] <zork__> chaotix, There's a setting somewhere in the Unity upgrade manager.
[07:45] <bekks> chaotix: Create a backup beforehand, and run do-release-upgrade
[07:45] <chaotix> bekks, so "sudo do-release-upgrade" ?
[07:45] <Calinou> yes
[07:45] <mote> Doing a translation and got a question: "This will install an obsolete bootloader", does it mean "outdated" or "unnecessary" bootloader?
[07:45] <Ascavasaion> chaotic: do-release-upgrade
[07:45] <chaotix> its a fresh install so no need to backup
[07:45] <chaotix> :)
[07:45] <bekks> chaotix: After creating a backup.
[07:46] <bekks> chaotix: Then why dont you just fresh install a 12.10?
[07:46] <zork__> chaotix, I agree w/ bekks, esp. if your mobo will boot from usb (mine doesn't, alas)
[07:47] <chaotix> ohhhh...  i bet its not upgrading because .04 is a lts, and 12.10 is not...  how would i disable that feature in xubuntu
[07:47] <auronandace> mote: essentially outdated
[07:47] <bekks> USB booting is not needed for that - he installed 12.04 somehow :)
[07:47] <chaotix> can i do that from the terminal>
[07:47] <bekks> chaotix: Yes, using do-release-upgrade
[07:48] <mote> auronandace:  Thanks
[07:48] <zork__> that's what it sounds like, "sudo apt-get do-release-upgrade"
[07:48] <chaotix> i did do-release-upgrade bekks , and i got:
[07:48] <bekks> chaotix: Please take a look at the man page, to see the available options.
[07:48] <chaotix> checking for a new Ubuntu release
[07:48] <chaotix> No new release found
[07:48] <chaotix> L(
[07:48] <chaotix> :(
[07:48] <bekks> chaotix: Please take a look at the man page, to see the available options.
[07:49] <chaotix> kk
[07:49] <NilBud> chaotix, try this first - sudo apt-get install update-manager-core
[07:49] <chaotix> thanks
[07:49] <NilBud> There's more
[07:49] <NilBud> Edit /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades and set Prompt=normal;
[07:50] <chaotix> found it on the man page bekks
[07:50] <chaotix> do-release-upgrade -d
[07:51] <chaotix> NilBud, isnt update-manager a gnome program?  or that wont matter on xfce??  im rinning a really slow computer..  i cant afford a bunch of dependencies
[07:51] <chaotix> i couldnt even put koloutpaint4, onde of my favs, a kde app, on here without sloweing it up
[07:52] <chaotix> would update-manager be ok?
[07:52] <NilBud> From what I read here - http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/04/upgrade-to-ubuntu-12-04-from-ubuntu-10-04-via-the-terminal/ - It says terminal only.
[07:52] <vlt> Hello. I have a USB memory device here. I ran `badblocks` on it and the number of the last found bad block is bigger than the reported size of the device. Is this possible? What does that mean?
[07:52] <chaotix> coo
[07:52] <chaotix> anyways its updating
[07:52] <bekks> chaotix: the approach from NilBud is the Ubuntu way :)
[07:52] <chaotix> love the support available here
[07:53] <chaotix> had a windows driver problem last week, and no one could fig it out online, so i called microsoft...  and the support warranty was past due
[07:53] <chaotix> :(
[07:54] <chaotix> dell is helpful even past the warranty stage, however...  called them once about a 5 yr old box
[07:54] <Calinou> loldell
[07:55] <Calinou> nice prices they have there
[07:55] <chaotix> anyways thanks for the help...  ill post a screenshot later if u guys want when i am done...   im going to check out ubuntu-offtopic so i dont flood this chat and hurt peoples chances at getting help woth my chatter
[07:55] <chaotix> lol
[07:55] <zork__> btw chaotix, madbox is at http://madbox.tuxfamily.org/ for more info.
[07:55] <NilBud> Haven't used a Dell in years. Been using System76.
[07:55] <zork__> page is in french.
[07:55] <chaotix> thx zork__  i will try it out
[07:56] <chaotix> NilBud, i have some old machines
[07:56] <kurohyou> hi, i just deleted a directory from my raid1 setup by mistake, is there a possibility to recover this?
[07:56] <chaotix> an hp and a dell
[07:57] <Calinou> nice megaupload button you have there
[07:57] <bekks> kurohyou: Only using your backup.
[07:58] <kurohyou> bekks: don't have a backup
[07:58] <penguinhead> kurohyou: use a live CD
[07:59] <zork__> kurohyou, might check this out:  http://community.wdc.com/t5/WD-ShareSpace/HOWTO-Recover-files-from-a-RAID-1-mirrored-drive-when-the/td-p/138448
[07:59] <bekks> penguinhead: Useless after not powering off the system immediately.
[07:59] <bekks> Most likely the inodes were overwritten meanwhile.
[08:00] <bekks> kurohyou: The only chance you have is to run a program like photorec, or something like that from a livecd.
[08:01] <kurohyou> bekks: my root drive is a seperate one, can't i ssh into my system and do it like that?
[08:01] <fidel_> hi - i am working in a network where all host have static ip-adresses so far. in case i would love to add a small linux based dhcp-server zo offer a small range of the ip-adresses via dhcp what package would you recommend?
[08:04] <bekks> kurohyou: I'd suggest using a live cd. The longer you wait doing so the more likely your data will be entirely lost.
[08:05] <penguinhead> photorec is awesome
[08:07] <penguinhead> why does the whois not work on this xchat?
[08:07] <_henrik> I just installed 12.10, and can not find restricted device manager so I can enable nvidia graphic drivers. anyone know why?
[08:08] <bekks> _henrik: you can run sudo apt-get install nvidia-current from a terminal.
[08:08] <_henrik> Will that enable it to?
[08:09] <kurohyou> bekks: thanks for the information, recovering 2TB as we speak :p
[08:09] <_henrik> bekks, was the restricted manager removed?
[08:10] <penguinhead> kurohyou: what worked for you?
[08:10] <bekks> _henrik: I never used it so far.
[08:10] <InstantKrimson> _henrik: I'm not sure,  but if you look in the "Additional Drivers" tab of "Software Sources" you might find it.
[08:10] <kurohyou> ssh into my server because it is on seperate drive and am using photorec now, so far it is recovering fine, afraid it is gone take a while :p
[08:12] <penguinhead> goody
[08:13] <_henrik> thanks bekks will try this!
[08:19] <penguinhead> kosszonom szepen , bekks
[08:19] <egyikenber> hello, can someone help me with dual monitor setup configuration?
[08:21] <DemonWitch> Hey i am trying to make a process being respawned by inittab but it seems /etc/inittab is missing duo to upstart
[08:21] <DemonWitch> what can be done?
[08:22] <penguinhead> whats the prob egyikenber?
[08:24] <penguinhead> DemonWitch: http://askubuntu.com/questions/71621/where-is-the-etc-inittab-file-or-how-to-set-the-default-runlevel
[08:28] <egyikenber> penguinhead : I've got a laptop with Intel MHD4500 vga and sometimes I'd like to attach an external monitor.. but when I do this, I'd like my external monitor act like as it does in Windows extended destop: so nothing on the monitor until I pull there something manually
[08:28] <DemonWitch> penguinhead, i want to check periodically if a process runs and respawn it
[08:29] <egyikenber> penguinhead : but the problem is, that Ubuntu streches my desktop accross the internal laptop display and the external monitor, so my icons for example go to left to the external monitor, which I don't want
[08:31] <exalt> hello i have ubuntu host with a windows VM, the VM is fullscreen on a dedicated (workspace / desktop) is it possible to keep the ctrl-<arrow> to switch workspaces of host working while in that vm ? ?
[08:31] <penguinhead> DemonWitch: i'm still on that learning curve, incidentally was also looking for the inittab file when you popped the question
[08:33] <penguinhead> egyik what does the detect displays do?
[08:35] <penguinhead> Demon: what ps?
[08:35] <BenjiArts> Hi guys, shocking cool vid! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPuJat9jMqY
[08:35] <BenjiArts> Hi guys, shocking cool vid! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPuJat9jMqY
[08:36] <dr0p> hello, i've got a strange problem with vim. After fresh ubuntu and janus plugins instalation I don't get c/c++ highlightning in vim. Anyone have idea, what's wrong?
[08:36] <kulpa> Hi
[08:40] <_cronus_> dr0p, are you using the default vim or have you installed vim-nox?
[08:41] <dr0p> _cronus_, default
[08:42] <_cronus_> dr0p, try installing vim-nox, since the default is a tiny version of vim
[08:42] <penguinhead> DemonWitch: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/wiki/Stanzas#respawn
[08:44] <DemonWitch> penguinhead, i was looking for that respawn, but do i have to create a conf file inside /etc/init ?
[08:44] <dr0p> _cronus_, still fails.
[08:45] <_cronus_> dr0p, do you get an error when you start vi?
[08:47] <dr0p> _cronus_, no errors. runs ordinary, I get line numbers (but no highlightning c/c++, auto indentation, and so on), ruby files works fine.
[08:48] <kafine> !ot
[08:50] <kafine> how to create  a packet in which we have a Header and a DATA PArtion (partion should be partion into two area )
[08:51] <_cronus_> dr0p, i'll try to install it and see if it works here...
[08:52] <kafine> Data area area should be partition into two area
[08:52] <pingUone> I get this error when trying to start squid. I have the same config working on another server.  http://pastebin.com/61nYV4pW
[08:52] <dr0p> i've just installed vim-nox, but no further changes. I'll try to reinstall whole vim and janus, and see if it changes sth
[08:52] <dr0p> _cronus_, i'll let you know in minutes
[08:53] <ngomes> hello ...  why google-chrome package is out of ubuntu 12.10 ?
[08:53] <pingUone> config http://pastebin.com/nLgSVBxJ
[08:53] <djlynux> hey guys
[08:53] <ngomes> chrome and chromium
[08:53] <blackshirt> hey djlynux
[08:54] <djlynux> 91.189.92.152 cant access to port 80 ip 62.2.141.137
[08:54] <vchi> man setupterm say no man , how to find this func in which package ? apt-get what
[08:54] <cnf> hmz, how the heck do i get consistent natural scrolling working?
[08:54] <kafine>  hello guys ! ! could anyone help  me to create own packet to transfer
[08:55] <djlynux> which is actually extras.ubuntu.com
[08:55] <ngomes> djlynux, is that for me P
[08:55] <ngomes> djlynux, is that for me ?
[08:55] <djlynux> do we have any IT experts here?
[08:55] <djlynux> :D
[08:55] <djlynux> ha ha ha lolz
[08:55] <blackshirt> vchi, setupterm ?
[08:55] <blackshirt> djlynux, no
[08:55] <vchi> blackshirt: yes
[08:56] <djlynux> cannonical IT guys ?
[08:56] <blackshirt> vchi, i couldn't reconfigure your problem
[08:56] <blackshirt> djlynux, i don't think so
[08:56] <djlynux> okay blackshirt
[08:57] <fairuz> ngomes: I can install chrome just fine. I use partner repo iirc.
[08:57] <ngomes> chrome used to be in main repositories
[08:57] <blackshirt> kafine, do you doing some libnet programming?
[08:57] <ngomes> fairuz, ^
[08:57] <vchi> blackshirt: man a func ,but the man-doc not installed
[08:58] <k610> what should i use upstart -  .bashrc  - cron  ? to have ensure this ruby script runs even after shutdown reboot or any
[08:58] <blackshirt> vchi, i don't know about setupterm command ..maybe i miss or nothing there
[08:59] <Stanley00> k610: how about /etc/rc.local and /etc/rc.local.shutdown?
[08:59] <fairuz> ngomes: Oh never know that. I just started using chrome for it's sync across several PC feature which is cool.
[08:59] <fairuz> *its
[08:59] <penguinhead> k610: what script will run with the computer shutdown?
[08:59] <vchi> blackshirt: it is not a command , it is : 3   Library calls (functions within program libraries)
[08:59] <ngomes> fairuz, i dont want to break package managementt
[09:00] <_cronus_> dr0p, installed janus. it works fine with c files
[09:00] <fairuz> ngomes: Enabling the partner package imo will not break your package management. :D
[09:00] <vchi> blackshirt: setupterm is not : 1   Executable programs or shell commands
[09:00] <k610> penguinhead: maybe jsut a mail to say the computer shutdown, it's more about having the webserver always up
[09:00] <pipe_> hello, i have netbook HP DM1-4130ss (AMD E-450, Radeon HD6320) and i have audio but i think is a little bad, what i can do for improve sound?
[09:00] <b1> test 123
[09:00] <blackshirt> vchi, try with man -k setupterm to search
[09:00] <ngomes> fairuz, parter repository is part of canonical ?
[09:01] <ngomes> *partner
[09:01] <kafine> blackshirt: no sir ! i'm just excited to know , how to create a packet
[09:01] <vchi> blackshirt: It must install xxx-doc first to use man -k xxx
[09:01] <penguinhead> k610: you mean when a terminal on your network shuts down?
[09:01] <_cronus_> dr0p, i used the autoinstaller. i had to install rake before that
[09:01] <dr0p> _cronus_, i've got whole rails stach -> so rake included
[09:02] <blackshirt> vchi look at man2
[09:02] <fairuz> ngomes: The term partner tell me that it's not. But it's worth adding because Ubuntu consider it as a partner. :)
[09:02] <k610> penguinhead: when the computer shutdown e.g. #~ shutdown now
[09:02] <dr0p> _cronus_, could You please give the autoinstaller link (the curl one) ?
[09:02] <blackshirt> vchi, if i'm not wrong, cmiiw, thats for manual of library calls
[09:02] <ngomes> fairuz, give-me url of the project please
[09:02] <fairuz> ngomes: ?
[09:02] <k610> Stanley00: so i can add bash commmands into /etc/rc.local and those will be executed after a reboot or a shutdown+start
[09:03] <_cronus_> dr0p, curl https://raw.github.com/carlhuda/janus/master/bootstrap.sh|bash
[09:03] <vchi> blackshirt: yes, it is library calls
[09:03] <fairuz> ngomes: Look in yoru software source, you can just tick the canonical partner repo
[09:03] <kafine> blackshirt: can you guid me ? I want to do a task like as we know a packet have two basic partition DATA and HEADER . I want to make another partition within DATA area
[09:03] <ngomes> fairuz, how to add ?
[09:03] <fairuz> *your
[09:03] <ngomes> hmm ok
[09:03] <vchi> blackshirt: example: sudo apt-get install manpages-posix-dev
[09:03] <fairuz> I believe there's a bunch of repo in there
[09:03] <blackshirt> kafine, use libnet to do some packet crafting
[09:03] <mickepaprika> hello...
[09:03] <b1> Hello
[09:03] <fairuz> But look in your Software Source, you enable it from there easily
[09:04] <dr0p> _cronus_, just downloading janus, i'll see it in a minute or two
[09:04] <Stanley00> k610: yes
[09:04] <mickepaprika> i have the problem that my screen freezes for 1 sec every 30 secs... quite regularly... anyone who has time to help debug this?
[09:04] <rayn2> hello everyone
[09:04] <pipe_> hello, i have netbook HP DM1-4130ss (AMD E-450, Radeon HD6320) and i have audio but i think is a little bad, what i can do for improve sound?
[09:04] <ngomes> fairuz, i have it ON
[09:05] <pingUone> I get this error when trying to start squid. I have the same config working on another server.  http://pastebin.com/61nYV4pW
[09:05] <penguinhead> pipe_: what do you mean by 'a little bad'
[09:05] <k610> Stanley00: awsome. is rc.local.shutdown gonna be called if I e.g. #~ reboot now
[09:05] <penguinhead> is it too low?
[09:05] <rayn2> is there anybody who has some experience in ubuntu-webapps?
[09:05] <blackshirt> vchi, usually,manual doc for a lot of system calls was installed by default
[09:05] <Seditio> hi, my laptop seems to have some fan problems, I've tried archlinux, ubuntu12.04 and now I'm running ubuntu studio 12.10, the fan seems to be quiet for around 10 minutes, then rockets up to 100% and never slows, even though it's blowing cold air out, I have a ATI HD4500M
[09:05] <pingUone> and also I get these crazy errors when trying to start in other ways. NO error in logs at all.  http://pastebin.com/FXU3Nn9F
[09:05] <pipe_> penguinhead a little noise
[09:06] <blackshirt> rayn2, what languages you was familiar with webapps development?
[09:06] <pipe_> lspci | grep Audio
[09:06] <pipe_> 00:01.1 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Wrestler HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 6250/6310]
[09:06] <pipe_> 00:14.2 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) (rev 40)
[09:06] <kafine> blackshirt:  i have another doubt about XML language .We know many OS GUI is based on XML somewhere like Windows and ubuntu . In XML we can create own Tag .Why XML language become machine Specific whenever we execute same file in other OS . How XML basically works
[09:06] <vchi> blackshirt: but I install ubuntu server only, how to find the package which I need install : example sudo apt-get install glibc-doc
[09:07] <rayn2> blackshirt,i am talking about this new feature in Ubuntu 12.10 named 'ubuntu-webapps'
[09:07] <curly26> blackshirt: java, ajax or php
[09:07] <b1> greetings from Minnesota
[09:08] <vchi> blackshirt: I got it : apt-file search setupterm ,thanks .
[09:08] <brianlo747> hi
[09:08] <dr0p> _cronus_, still fail, i'm running out of ideas
[09:08] <brianlo747> What is the difference between windows installer and usb install?
[09:08] <blackshirt> good luck vchi
[09:08] <b1> AKEM can U read me?
[09:09] <blackshirt> rayn2,  i don't play a bit with this tools
[09:09] <_cronus_> dr0p, could you use set filetype=? to see if it detects the filetype correctly?
[09:09] <_cronus_> dr0p, * set filetype?
[09:10] <dr0p> _cronus_, i'll just use your installer link (not the one from janus github mainpage)
[09:10] <vchi> blackshirt: ncurses-doc: /usr/share/man/man3/setupterm.3ncurses.gz
[09:11] <chaotix> hello
[09:11] <b1> Hello!
[09:12] <chaotix> i just fresh installed ubuntu 10.10, and i have ethernet plugged into the system, and during install it recognised the internet, but now i am booted into it and there is no internet on that box
[09:12] <chaotix> it isnt recognising whe wired or wireless
[09:12] <chaotix> grr
[09:12] <chaotix> lol
[09:12] <chaotix> can u help?
[09:12] <blackshirt> vchi, sorry, i'm wrong...man 2 was for system call, and man3 was for library calls manual
[09:12] <b1> It's beyond my scope.... sorry
[09:14] <BrixSat> hello, im on ubuntu 12.04 with gnome-session-falback and if i enable transparency in terminal i only see the background not the windows behind, why?
[09:14] <chaotix> anyone here?
[09:14] <chaotix> BrixSat, it is  because the terminal...
[09:14] <chaotix> is emulating transparencyu, it isnt real transparency
[09:14] <BrixSat> chaotix: ?
[09:15] <chaotix> theres nothing wrong, thats how it is supposed to look when you enable transparency...  some times it takes getting used to
[09:15] <chaotix> but it is likely better that way...  you can configure your text color scheme accordingly...  if it always showed the window behind it, it would effect how your text would look
[09:15] <BrixSat> chaotix:  I always got transparency to all things behind
[09:16] <chaotix> can anyone help me get networking working?
[09:16] <chaotix> BrixSat, ok...  in the terminal>
[09:16] <chaotix> ?
[09:16] <chaotix> maybe i am wrong
[09:17] <BrixSat> chaotix:  i have transparency enabled but not as it is suposed to work, it should transparency all the things behind not only the background
[09:18] <dr0p> _cronus_, still no effects, now i am really curious about the reason :D
[09:19] <chaotixx> ok back
[09:19] <akhilblue> hey. i have a belkin wireless dongle with rtl8188su chipset. i got a linux driver from realtek, but have no idea how to install. and i tried ndiswrapper, but it does not support master mode. so no go with ndiswrapper. thanks in advance
[09:19] <_cronus_> dr0p, so am i. which release are u using?
[09:20] <dr0p> _cronus_, 12.04
[09:20] <chaotixx> can someone help?  xubuntu 12.10 fresh install, and no networking is working at all
[09:20] <mysticalzero> BrixSat: hardware accelerated desktop composition does not work in gnome fallback session. of course the transparency would work as true transparency..
[09:20] <chaotixx> the ethernet conection worked fine during install
[09:20] <chaotixx> and now, it is like there is nothing...  iwred and wireless
[09:20] <mysticalzero> BrixSat: wouldn't work* typo sorry
[09:20] <_cronus_> dr0p, same here... so it's not that. what about filetype have you checked that?
[09:20] <nv> you have the networking icon right?
[09:20] <chaotixx> yes
[09:21] <pipe_> hello, i have a netbook hp dm1-4100 series, with "Beats audio". i m using ubuntu 12.04 and the sound isn't very well, i hear some noise. how to i can improve the sound?
[09:21] <dr0p> :set filetype? -> filetype=conf
[09:21] <BrixSat> mysticalzero: a little disapointing :(
[09:21] <nv> what adapter information does it report?
[09:21] <_cronus_> dr0p, that's not right. try set filetype=c
[09:22] <akhilblue> guys how do i install a driver for linux? belkin usb dongle with realtek rtl8188su. i have the driver from the realtek website.
[09:22] <dr0p> _cronus_, works ;]
[09:22] <mysticalzero> BrixSat: why are you running in fallback session? graphic driver issues?
[09:23] <_cronus_> dr0p, it probably does not recognise the extension properly then. are you using standard extensions? ie .c .cc .cpp etc
[09:23] <BrixSat> mysticalzero: no, i hate unity so i installed the session fall back to look like gnome2
[09:23] <dr0p> _cronus_, yes, like K&R told in their book ;]
[09:23] <akhilblue> guys. driver help needed
[09:27] <andrea> hy everyone
[09:27] <blackshirt> hi andrea
[09:27] <Guest35425> any help with flash video for YT, i m able to see only few videos
[09:27] <balgkarbr> Alguem ai fala em portugues do brasil?
[09:28] <balgkarbr> AlguГ©m ai Г© brasileiro?
[09:28] <blackshirt> !brasil
[09:28] <mysticalzero> BrixSat: lol. at least install MATE or cinnamon. or KDE.
[09:28] <andrea_17> any help with flash video for YT, i m able to see only few videos
[09:28] <mysticalzero> BrixSat: if you love gnome2, go ahead with MATE.
[09:29] <balgkarbr> I can speak in eng , i just wanna know if there is someone from brazil, just that
[09:29] <BrixSat> mysticalzero:  mate = crap, to slow on simple alt+tab and a lot other things..... cinnamon never tried, kde = to much for my vga card.
[09:29] <mangoz88> andrea_17: depends which browser your using
[09:29] <andrea_17> firefox 16.0
[09:29] <BrixSat> mysticalzero:  solution is "dconf-editor, org/gnome/metacity" :D and enable composite
[09:29] <MiningMarsh> BrixSat: xfce is as nice as MATE now. Just a few little annoyances.
[09:30] <pipe_> hello, i have a netbook hp dm1-4100 series, with "Beats audio". i m using ubuntu 12.04 and the sound isn't very well, i hear some noise. how to i can improve the sound?
[09:30] <mangoz88> andrea_17: there are lots od addons to help you with flash in firefox
[09:30] <andrea_17> i m actually using ubuntu 12.04
[09:30] <andrea_17> none of them seems to be working
[09:31] <brayn> Morning! Is there any way to allow an app to overwrite system shortcuts?
[09:31] <mangoz88> andrea_17: then i suggest a download helper addon , you can also try youtube downloader
[09:34] <andrea_17> actually mozilla keps on crashing, which browser do u all prefer?
[09:34] <_serial_> chromium
[09:35] <mangoz88> google chrome is best with flash videos
[09:35] <andrea_17> it is way better than mozilla?
[09:35] <_serial_> personal preference me thinks
[09:35] <andrea_17> so chrome or chromium?
[09:35] <_serial_> chromium
[09:35] <brayn> Also is there way way to use webapps with Chrome in 12.10 ?
[09:36] <_serial_> as you can get it from the repos straight away rather than adding the chrome stable repo
[09:36] <mangoz88> i use chrome 22 , works perfect on all videos
[09:36] <_serial_> brayn when you open a new tab theres the web app store on the bottom panel
[09:36] <Archie> .
[09:37] <brayn> _serial_, I meant the new Ubuntu functionality to treat websites as native apps. It works on Firefox and Chromium but not chrome
[09:38] <_serial_> ah ok, i don't use chrome :/
[09:38] <pipe_> hello, i have a netbook hp dm1-4100 series, with "Beats audio". i m using ubuntu 12.04 and the sound isn't very well, i hear some noise. how to i can improve the sound?
[09:39] <brayn> Is there any way to allow an app to overwrite system shortcuts?
[09:39] <opalepatrick> Any calculator that has store recall functions. gcalctool used to but they have disappeared. qalculate and speedcruch seem way over the top and more into storing variables. Bit bizarre
[09:39] <brayn> for example Ctr+Alt+L -> to allow my IDE to use that shortcut but also have lock screen functionality
[09:39] <_serial_> pipe_ : have you had a play with alsamixer?
[09:40] <pipe_> _serial_ see this:
[09:40] <pipe_> lspci | grep Audio
[09:40] <pipe_> 00:01.1 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Wrestler HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 6250/6310]
[09:40] <pipe_> 00:14.2 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) (rev 40)
[09:40] <FloodBot1> pipe_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:40]  * ripthejacker is testing irc in pidgin
[09:41] <rico> pipe_: use pastebin, dude.
[09:41] <pipe_> ok sorry
[09:41] <rico> pipe_: http://paste.ubuntu.com or http://pastebin.com
[09:41] <_serial_> pipe_: have you tried opening the terminal and type and run alsamixer?
[09:42] <pipe_> _serial_ i m going to try
[09:42] <japro> i'm trying to share wifi internet via a laptop to a raspberry
[09:42] <_serial_> I had a problem before on a diff machine with alsamixer thats why i ask
[09:42] <japro> anyway for some reason the name resolution doesn't work
[09:42] <japro> or doesn't work anymore
[09:43] <japro> it worked before and i can't figure out what has changed
[09:43] <pipe_> _serial_ now i am in menu alsamixer, what i do?
[09:43] <_serial_> are any of the bars on a low value?
[09:43] <_serial_> that relate to you that is
[09:43] <_serial_> ?
[09:44] <_serial_> master, headphones, speaker pcm etc
[09:45] <pipe_> Card: HD-Audio Generic
[09:45] <pipe_> Chip: ATI R6xx HDMI
[09:46] <pipe_> and down i see framework with 00
[09:46] <_serial_> can you increase the value?
[09:47] <pipe_> how?
[09:47] <_serial_> pipe_: also check with the sound applet to see if you have the right settings?
[09:47] <pipe_> F1: help F2: information F6: select
[09:47] <_serial_> with alsamixer up and down to change the value and left and right to select the component
[09:48] <pipe_> If i pulse F6 i can change  options: 0 HD-Audio Generic or 1 - HDA ATI SB
[09:49] <_serial_> which one do you want to use?
[09:49] <pipe_> which one you recomend me?
[09:49] <_serial_> does hd-audio generic have any output?
[09:50] <_serial_> the thing is you could test both and see which suites you :)
[09:50] <dr0p> _cronus_, after some invetigation, it occurs that after removing .vim directory, vim highliting work fine :/
[09:50] <dr0p> _cronus_, sounds like some janus bug?
[09:50] <pipe_> ok, i change and i will try it
[09:51] <_serial_> pipe_: worth a try :) good luck
[09:54] <pipe_> _serial_ i dont know i doing wrong, i selecc option 1 and i see bars, i pulse ESC and if i back enter there aren't change save
[09:55] <_serial_> hmm :S ?
[09:56] <_serial_> did you check that you have set the right device/output?
[09:58] <prashant_123456> how to change top panel color in ubuntu gnome classic
[10:01] <pipe_> _serial_ say me how i can see audio driver is load
[10:03] <_serial_> pipe_: on alsamixer is should say the device your using in the Card and Chip section.  have you set the right device that you want to use? via f6?
[10:04] <Bustacap> I removed pulseaudio to reinstall, and now that I reinstalled I don't have the sound button next to the time in the taskbar. I am on 12.10. How can I get it back?
[10:05] <pipe_> _serial_ sorry but i don't know save the changes
[10:05] <_serial_> bustacap: this link any good to you? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1439637
[10:06] <_serial_> not a prob :) pipe_ : im sorry if ive confused you a bit, here's a link which makes it a bit easier :) http://askubuntu.com/questions/50067/howto-save-alsamixer-settings
[10:06] <mankeletor> Hi all
[10:06] <VoRoN> hi
[10:06] <_serial_> hi :)
[10:06] <cmd-h> hi
[10:07] <Bustacap> gnome-volume-control-applet: command not found
[10:07] <Bustacap> Lol
[10:07] <mankeletor> I'm just trying andchat 4 android
[10:07] <_serial_> not found because its removed or via apt- get/cache?
[10:08] <VoRoN> who knows, how can i automaticly start my encrypted swap partition?
[10:08] <TechnodicT_> Gparted
[10:08] <mankeletor> Does anyone tried mate?
[10:09] <iceroot> VoRoN: ubuntu will do that by default if you have encrypted swap
[10:09] <Bustacap> _serial_ it's not installed, and an apt-get gnome-volume-control-applet didn't work either. Package not found.
[10:09] <iceroot> VoRoN: /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 none swap sw 0 0
[10:09] <iceroot> VoRoN: in /etc/fstab
[10:10] <VoRoN> iceroot, for the first time after installation ubuntu said to me that it couldnt find any encrypted swap partition, or it was not ready
[10:10] <bitbuzzer> hi. I'm having trouble sending emails via my php application. I have a sendgrid account and set up postfix + sendmail on my server. I'm able to send emails from the command line, just not PHP.
[10:10] <bitbuzzer> not the right room?
[10:10] <cmd-h> yup
[10:11] <pipe_> _serial_ i m going to restart
[10:11] <_serial_> Bustacap: http://askubuntu.com/questions/136812/missing-panel-icons-at-top-right any good to you?
[10:11] <VoRoN> iceroot, later i found a tutorial about it and how to solve this problem. At thos time i have to write a password for mounting it as encrypted...
[10:13] <VoRoN> iceroot, but this needs a lot of time for startup
[10:15] <VoRoN> anybody?
[10:15] <Bustacap> _serial_ trying a reboot now after installing that stuff. Brb.
[10:15] <sk1pper> hi folks, does anyone know what is the "private key password" option when importing a VPN connection on network manager? i have no idea what password is it asking for and if i don't give a password for that option i cannot save the imported VPN
[10:16] <nv> there is a public and private key. you its looking for the private key
[10:16] <_serial_> good luck :)
[10:17] <nv> how you get the private key all depends on the key distrobution method
[10:18] <sk1pper> nv: what do u mean? i don't have any private or public key, and it's asking me for the password of the private key
[10:18] <nv> oh that would be a pin or password you set up
[10:18] <Bettrave> Hello
[10:18] <Bettrave> I need help : Can anyone tell me how to uninstall windows programs if I installed them using wine
[10:19] <nv> you need keys for encryption
[10:19] <sk1pper> nv: i haven't set up any password, i can use the same files to connect to vpn from win7 without any additional key and password
[10:19] <nv> whatever you were using was handling keymanagement without your knowledge
[10:19] <_serial_> Bettrave: run the uninstaller that comes with the windows program
[10:20] <MonkeyDust> Bettrave  it is or should be an item in the menu - Wine > Uninstall Wine Software
[10:20] <Bettrave> the prob. where should it be ?
[10:20] <nv> windows/ or n the prog files dir,
[10:20] <Bettrave> I am using ubuntu
[10:20] <nv> theres also a folder for the install logs that has all the info
[10:22] <nv> oh nevermind my head is in the wrong place. thought you were VM'ing windows
[10:22] <_serial_> Bettrave: did you install directly to wine or did you install with playonlinux?
[10:23] <_serial_> Bettrave: http://askubuntu.com/questions/101064/uninstall-a-program-installed-with-wine
[10:23] <sk1pper> nv: no, i am trying to import a VPN connection and the network manager is asking for a private key password, and i don't have any additional password, from windows i can connect to the VPN server from GUI OpenVPN, on ubuntu i am confused :/
[10:24] <CrazyHorse181> to get cron to run from 6pm to 4am
[10:24] <CrazyHorse181> ahh dont' worry fixed it
[10:25] <nv> i dont know how your old system worked. likely some sort of TKIP. but to have an encrypted connection you always need encryption keys
[10:26] <nv> you can import the keys from your windows partition if you can find out where openvpn stores the keys
[10:30] <Mrokii> hello. How/where can I activate nvidia-drivers in Ubuntu 12.10 from the console?
[10:30] <sk1pper> nv: i am importing the configuration file from the windows partition but there is no key to import
[10:30] <Mrokii> How is the gui named that lets me activate it I mean, so I can call it from terminal
[10:30] <nv> keys are usually issued by the server after authentication and checking your public key, sometimes key management is done through secure email w/ pgp / gpg
[10:31] <bitool> 3
[10:31] <bitool> 3
[10:31] <nv> what GUI Mrokii?
[10:32] <Mrokii> nv: The GUI where I can choose which Nvidia-driver to activate. I have installed drivers, but after a reboot I am on a very small resolution and the drivers don't seem to be activated.
[10:32] <sk1pper> nv: i understand that, but the problem is that they key is not protected by a password, however network manager is asking for that private key password
[10:33] <cmd-h> try System Settings > Additional Drivers
[10:33] <nv> you had to have some kind of password to authenticate to the server when you set the connection up in windows for the first time
[10:34] <Braden`> Hello
[10:34] <Mrokii> cmd-h: I have no access to that, that's why I need to start it via Terminal. Compiz isn't working properly
[10:34] <Braden`> Is there a makefile generator for c++ that is decent?
[10:34] <subdesign> hi, recommended music player for Ubuntu? (that plays online radio too)
[10:35] <nv> gmusicbrowser
[10:35] <Mrokii> So, the question is: How can I start that "additional drivers"-app/Gui from the Terminal.
[10:35] <sk1pper> nv: right, i have that password but is not a password for the key, is an authentication password
[10:35] <nv> have you tried it?
[10:35] <subdesign> thx
[10:35] <jrib> Mrokii: what ubunut version?
[10:36] <jrib> ubuntu :(
[10:36] <Mrokii> jrib: 12.10.
[10:36] <cmd-h> try modprobe nvidia
[10:36] <jrib> Mrokii: don't know.  Isn't it part of software center now?  Just start software center
[10:36] <Fuzzles> how come ubuntu 12.04 is supported for 5 years when 10.04 was only for 3?
[10:36] <cmd-h> injustice
[10:36] <MonkeyDust> Fuzzles  it's called LTS
[10:36] <circle> I want to find a program where I can draw some very simple mathematical diagrams. Very simple. I would normally use paint but I don't have paint on Linux, and the recreations aren't that good. What do you suggest?
[10:36] <jrib> Fuzzles: because the policy changed
[10:37] <Siegel-> hello, user of the latest version here. for a month or so two of the updates that keep recurring wont download and install properly, so all other updates get installed except for these two: "complete generic linux kernel" as well as "general linux kernel image". can someone help me solve this problem?
[10:37] <Mrokii> cmd-h: It say module nvidia_current not found.
[10:37] <MonkeyDust> ah, 10.04 vs 12.04
[10:37] <Fuzzles> jrib, ok thanks
[10:37] <Siegel-> update manager says that theyve been downloaded yet not installed.
[10:37] <cmd-h> which driver have you installed?
[10:37] <Fuzzles> does anyone use the LTS here?
[10:37] <cmd-h> me
[10:37] <Siegel-> me too
[10:37] <_serial_> i do :)
[10:37] <jrib> Siegel-: use apt-get and pastebin your command and full output
[10:38] <Fuzzles> is 12.04 going to get the new smart/optimized unity for 12.10?
[10:38] <Siegel-> jrib: no problem, yet what should i type in after apt-get ?
[10:38] <jrib> Siegel-: you're just doing an upgrade?  Do: sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:38] <jrib> Mrokii: apparently it might be in software-sources (software-properties-gtk is the command)
[10:38] <Siegel-> jrib: ok ill type that line
[10:38] <sk1pper> nv: yes i have tried and just tried it again
[10:39] <ThinkT510> Siegel-: update first then dist-upgrade
[10:39] <jrib> Siegel-: oops, I made a typo
[10:39] <jrib> Siegel-: you're just doing an upgrade?  Do: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:39] <nv> you need to contact the admin and get the info
[10:39] <Mrokii> jrib: I don't see where I can activate the drivers in there.
[10:39] <jrib> Mrokii: there's supposed to be a tab
[10:39] <Siegel-> jrib: this is gonna be long... lots of lines.
[10:40] <jrib> Siegel-: pastebin can handle it :)
[10:40] <Fuzzles> if your upgradeing your safer option is a fresh install
[10:40] <Siegel-> jrib: i dont know if im doing an upgrade. its just two things that wont ever install through update manager.
[10:40] <Mrokii> jrib: What tab? What should it be named?
[10:40] <jrib> Mrokii: "Jockey has been deprecated in favor of a "Drivers" component in software-properties."
[10:40] <Fuzzles> quicker then upgrading plus less hassle
[10:40] <Mrokii> jrib: Ah, so it's the repositories thing. Thanks.
[10:41] <Siegel-> Fuzzles: what can i upgrade to? i have the latest version. im not trying to upgrade. its just that those two things always show up in update manager. does that mean they want me to upgrade?
[10:41] <Braden`> Is there a makefile generator for c++ that is decent?
[10:41] <jrib> Siegel-: update-manager does what that command does
[10:41] <Fuzzles> Siegel-, so you already using 12.10 and what packages are they?
[10:41] <ThinkT510> !dist-upgrade | Siegel-
[10:41] <PatrickDickey> Siegel-: what packages won't install?
[10:42] <Siegel-> PatrickDickey: complete generic linux kernel and generic linux kernel image. upadate manager says theyre downloaded but not installed
[10:42] <Bustacap> _serial_, that worked. thanks :)
[10:43] <PatrickDickey> Siegel, does it give you an error message when you try to install them? If you don't see one, I'd try the sudo apt-get dist-upgrade option that others are recommending. At least there, you'll get some type of message.
[10:43] <Fuzzles> use the clean commands to clean packages and cache then retry siegel
[10:43] <Siegel-> Fuzzles: well no. im using the lts version. isnt that recommended anyway?
[10:44] <User123> Help with compilation required :) ./configure done but when I try "make" it writes that no makefile found but there's two of them in folder.
[10:44] <ksbalaji> I am on a liveusb with casper-rw ext4 partition. I am able to reboot with changes. But dpkg reports errors http://pastebin.com/exmHYJns . Please help.
[10:44] <_serial_> avit Bustacap! :)
[10:44] <ThinkT510> !checkinstall | User123
[10:44] <Fuzzles> Siegel-, its what i use but try the cleab commands to clean pakcages and cache restart and try installing maybe they didnt download properlty
[10:44] <PatrickDickey> Siegel and Fuzzles, it has nothing to do with upgrading (version to version). Most likely something happened, and the kernel couldn't install. Doing it via the command line (sudo apt-get dist-upgrade) will tell you what's happening.
[10:45] <Siegel-> PatrickDickey: it does give me an error but im running that dist-upgrade command now. ill slee if this works.
[10:45] <circle> I want to find a program where I can draw some very simple mathematical diagrams. Very simple. I would normally use paint but I don't have paint on Linux, and the recreations aren't that good. What do you suggest?
[10:45] <Siegel-> PatrickDickey: if it doesnt work, ill run it again through update manager and tell you what error i get.
[10:45] <Fuzzles> PatrickDickey, i know hes using 12.04
[10:46] <PatrickDickey> Siegel, you'll get the same error message now.
[10:46] <Siegel-> i got this line in terminal in the end : E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[10:46] <PatrickDickey> Siegel, above that, what was the last thing it was trying to do (before It started returning error messages).
[10:46]  * PatrickDickey is guessing update-grub
[10:46] <Siegel-> PatrickDickey: ill paste binn this
[10:47] <User123> ThinkT510, it writes 1)make 2)sudo checkinstall. But I can't even get to #1
[10:47] <PatrickDickey> Good idea. ;-)
[10:47] <ksbalaji> My initramfs does not go well with dpkg. There was a suggestion to update casper. I did - no use. Help.
[10:47] <Bustacap> If I reinstall ubuntu, will I lose my sexy BURG bootloader setup?
[10:47] <Siegel-> PatrickDickey: im pastebining the entire thing.
[10:47] <Siegel-> http://pastebin.com/a0NdLL6c
[10:48] <AssociateX> Why is this not working?: :~$ strace -e open skype>crash.txt
[10:48] <ThinkT510> User123: compiling should be a last resort, i gave you that link so you know you can make a .deb (for easier uninstall)
[10:49] <PatrickDickey> Siegel-: in the terminal, type sudo dpkg --configure -a
[10:49] <Siegel-> PatrickDickey: ok
[10:49] <ThinkT510> User123: i don't know how to help with make sorry
[10:49] <PatrickDickey> what's he trying to compile?
[10:49] <User123> Ok :(
[10:49] <ThinkT510> User123: what are you compiling?
[10:50] <Chotaz> Hello eveyrone, yesterday I freshly installed my hdd with ubuntu 12.10 and installed all system updates. Everything went smoothly except my GPU's fans were stuck at 100% so I went to the drive tab in system settings and sellected the nvidia-current test drive and now I have a small square of visible desktop on my monitor everything else is black.
[10:50] <Bustacap> If I have 2 partitions, each 174gb, and start the ubuntu installer, how will I know which one is windows and which one is my ubuntu one that I want to delete and reinstall on?
[10:50] <Swarnava> hi can anyone help me to install ubuntu? i installed ubuntu in my pc..i have 3 drive C, D and E.. i installed ubuntu on C with ext4 format but my other drives are on NTFS format, and i cant see two drive D and E from ubuntu! whats wrong?
[10:50] <PatrickDickey> Bustacap, are they both formatted with ntfs?
[10:51] <Bustacap> No, one has this ubuntu installation that I want to replace.
[10:51] <Bustacap> Other is windows 7
[10:51] <PatrickDickey> Swarnava, you need to mount them before you can see them.
[10:51] <Siegel-> PatrickDickey: im gonna pastebin the result: http://pastebin.com/1UQ2g5EV
[10:51] <Swarnava> PatrickDickey: how to mount it?
[10:51] <PatrickDickey> Bustacap, you'll see one formatted as ntfs and the other formatted as whatever you configured ubuntu as (probably ext4
[10:51] <Bustacap> Ok. Thanks :)
[10:51] <Bustacap> Be back after I reformat then :P
[10:51] <User123> ThinkT510, http://sourceforge.net/projects/beepmp/ media player in INSTALL file its said 1)./configure 2)make 3)make install.
[10:52] <PatrickDickey> Swarnava, do you know the /dev/ names for them? like /dev/sda?
[10:52] <PatrickDickey> User123, what happened when you ran ./Configure?
[10:52] <AssociateX> skype is crashing, I'm trying to capture the crash from cli, why is this not working?    :~$ strace -e open skype>crash.txt
[10:52] <ksbalaji> I am on a liveusb with casper-rw ext4 partition. I am able to reboot with changes. But dpkg reports errors http://pastebin.com/exmHYJns . Please help.
[10:52] <ThinkT510> User123: i thought that project was dead, what's wrong with using audacious?
[10:52] <Swarnava> PatrickDickey: i forgot! i need to check once again..maybe sda1 sda2
[10:53] <jrib> Siegel-, PatrickDickey: bug #99547 if you want to do some reading (I have to go)
[10:53] <User123> PatrickDickey, a lot of checking.
[10:53] <Glurk> Hi folks, can anyone tell me where I can find the printer configuration files? It irks me a bit that I have to re-install my printers every time I do a clean install of Ubuntu and I am pretty sure there must be something like .mozilla or .Skype to restore these settings. Who can help me out here?
[10:53] <PatrickDickey> !mount | Swarnava
[10:53] <User123> ThinkT510, Maybe, I just need alternative to VLC it doesn't works :(
[10:54] <iosys> Swarnava: you can 'sudo apt-get install ntfs-config' and mount your drives with it
[10:54] <Swarnava> PatrickDickey: if i mount, will i lost the data that contain those drive?
[10:54] <ksbalaji> My initramfs does not go well with dpkg. There was a suggestion to update casper. I did - no use. Help.
[10:54] <ksbalaji> I am on a liveusb with casper-rw ext4 partition. I am able to reboot with changes. But dpkg reports errors http://pastebin.com/exmHYJns . Please help.
[10:54] <PatrickDickey> Swarnava, nope. Mount is basically just loading the drive into the system, so you can open it.
[10:55] <ThinkT510> User123: audacious doesn't work?
[10:56] <User123> ThinkT510, PatrickDickey, Could you tell a good alternative to VLC? Default player also runs .mkv film with lags.
[10:56] <MonkeyDust> audacious is nice
[10:56] <User123> ThinkT510, I don't even know what is it.
[10:56] <PatrickDickey> Off hand, no. I pretty much use vlc or Movie Player (or XBMC).
[10:56] <Swarnava> PatrickDickey: wow..thanks man one more thing i have slow net connection, so can i install sound package offline?
[10:56] <Swarnava> !mount
[10:56] <ThinkT510> User123: beepmp is for music, not video
[10:57] <User123> Ok, will try to install.
[10:57] <ThinkT510> User123: its been dead for years
[10:57] <MonkeyDust> User123  audacious is like winamp
[10:57] <Swarnava> !command
[10:57] <ThinkT510> User123: audacious replaced it
[10:57] <PatrickDickey> Swarnava, you can download the .deb file for it, and install it via dpkg -i filename.deb
[10:57] <ThinkT510> User123: for video vlc has worked great for me but you could try gnome-mplayer
[10:57] <Swarnava> PatrickDickey: where can i get that deb file?
[10:58] <nicferrier> I want to put nginx 1.1 on my oneiric server. is the best way to just compile it? or should I use a backport?
[10:58] <PatrickDickey> Swarnava: It depends on which audio card you have. Some of them are pre-configured.
[10:58] <User123> Ok, thanks, sad that VLC doesn't play any videos for me, got used for it on win7.
[10:58] <Chotaz> Hello eveyrone, yesterday I freshly installed my hdd with ubuntu 12.10 and installed all system updates. After that I switch the graphics driver for the currently tested on(NVIDIA GeForce 9600GT) but now my screen is messeud up I can only see a small square at the center with the desktop, everything else is black.
[10:58] <PatrickDickey> User123: is it just that they lag, or do they not play at all?
[10:59] <User123> Default ubuntu12 player lags on .mkv VLC doesn't even start a video, freezes at the very beginning.
[10:59] <Siegel-> jrib: i see its a bug, thanks
[10:59] <PatrickDickey> Siegel-: I haven't forgotten you. ;-) You could try sudo dpkg --remove --pending and it should clear those two updates out. Then you can do a check for updates again, and try them again.
[11:00] <Swarnava> PatrickDickey: thanks! :)
[11:00] <Swarnava> have a nice day!
[11:00] <PatrickDickey> User123: Maybe you need the codecs?
[11:00] <PatrickDickey> You too Swarnava.
[11:00] <jrib> Siegel-: the comments are lengthy but they seem to provide a workaround/solution
[11:01] <User123> PatrickDickey, on win7 the were installing along with VLC. Do you need to install them manually on ubuntu?
[11:01] <PatrickDickey> I've had it happen a couple of times. The update is in Proposed, and I try it.  Or something else happens. I've ended up using the dpkg --remove --pending to clear it.
[11:01] <PatrickDickey> User123: in some cases, yes. If you didn't select the option to install third party applications in the installer, you might have to.
[11:01] <User123> PatrickDickey, yeah, audacious says that no decoders found for mkv + file is too large.
[11:02] <PatrickDickey> !restricted | User123
[11:05] <User123> Ubuntu restricted extras already installed.
[11:05] <circle> I want to find a program where I can draw some very simple mathematical diagrams. Very simple. I would normally use paint but I don't have paint on Linux, and the recreations aren't that good. What do you suggest?
[11:06] <PatrickDickey> User123: you might check into the mediabuntu project. They don't have it in the bot (like restricted was). But, it might do what you need.
[11:06] <Chotaz> circle: gimp?
[11:07] <ThinkT510> User123: check that you have gstreamer-plugins-bad + ugly installed
[11:07] <cmd-h> circle: something like dia?
[11:08] <PatrickDickey> circle, have you checked in Software Center?
[11:08] <MonkeyDust> circle  i found texlive, havent tried it, tho
[11:09] <User123> ThinkT510, E: Unable to locate package gstreamer-plugins-bad
[11:09] <ThinkT510> User123: use synaptic and search there
[11:09] <PatrickDickey> ThinkT510: aren't they in the mediabuntu repositories?
[11:10] <ThinkT510> PatrickDickey: they are in the official repos
[11:10] <PatrickDickey> Ahh ok.
[11:11] <User123> ThinkT510, yep, installed.
[11:11] <ThinkT510> User123: have you tried gnome-mplayer?
[11:11] <User123> PatrickDickey, mediabuntu or medibuntu?
[11:11] <ThinkT510> User123: don't bother with medibuntu
[11:11] <PatrickDickey> medibuntu.
[11:12] <User123> sudo apt-get install gnome-mplayer?
[11:12] <ThinkT510> yes
[11:12] <Siegel-> PatrickDickey: thanks would i need to restart? because they still show in update manager
[11:12] <PatrickDickey> User123: Did you say that it errors out as too big (the video)?
[11:13] <PatrickDickey> Siegel, click Check. They'll show up again, but they (hopefully) will install this time.
[11:13] <Siegel-> ooh i see
[11:14] <User123> ThinkT510, E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/)
[11:14] <Mrokii> Hi. Seems I can't get the nVidida-drivers to activate on 12.10, despite having installed nvidia-current and used nvidia-xconfig. When I use modprobe I am told that Module nvidia_current isn't found.
[11:14] <ThinkT510> User123: close other package managers
[11:14] <PatrickDickey> Siegel, how long has this been happening? I ask that, because it might be a problem that they fixed later on.
[11:14] <Siegel-> i did check now im waiting for them to install.
[11:14] <Siegel-> PatrickDickey: about a month maybe more
[11:15] <User123> ThinkT510, ah, right, synaptic is open.
[11:15] <PatrickDickey> User123: earlier, did you say that the error message was something about file too big?
[11:15] <Siegel-> PatrickDickey: it failed. im gonna pastebin details
[11:15] <Siegel-> http://pastebin.com/Sqgey137
[11:15] <User123> PatrickDickey, ".mkv: Value too large for defined data type."
[11:16] <Girvo> Sup everyone
[11:16] <User123> PatrickDickey, + "No decoder found for file"
[11:17] <AssociateX> lp
[11:17] <AssociateX> oop's
[11:17] <circle> Chotaz: NO.
[11:17] <Chotaz> circle: sure, just throwing a suggestion.
[11:18] <User123> ThinkT510, gnome mplayer works fine, thank you! But I still wonder what's wrong with default player, VLC, audacious.
[11:19] <ThinkT510> User123: audacious is just for audio, it doesn't do video
[11:19] <PatrickDickey> Siegel-: you could try sudo apt-get -f dist-upgrade it's supposed to force things.
[11:19] <vlt> Hello. I have a USB memory device here on Ubuntu 12.04 w/ kernel 3.2.0.  I ran `badblocks` on it and the number of the last found bad block is bigger than the reported size of the device. Is this possible? What does that mean?
[11:20] <Siegel-> PatrickDickey: im running it
[11:22] <Glurk> quit: Gotta go, see you all later!
[11:22] <Siegel-> PatrickDickey: again same error. whenever it tries to depmod it never works
[11:24] <JmCourir> Hi! Good morning guys :)
[11:25] <PatrickDickey> Siegel, I'm at a loss also. Everything that I'm seeing says run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade.
[11:25] <PatrickDickey> Siegel-:  in Software Settings, do you have proposed updates selected?
[11:25] <Siegel-> PatrickDickey: i dont know. how do i go there
[11:26] <PatrickDickey> In Update Manger, click on Settigs.
[11:26] <PatrickDickey> Settings*
[11:26] <PatrickDickey> If there's a check in the box next to Proposed, remove it.
[11:27] <Mrokii> So what could be the reason that modprobe tells me that nvidia_current isn't found, despite having installed the drivers?
[11:27] <ThinkT510> Mrokii: isn't the module just called nvidia
[11:28] <Siegel-> PatrickDickey: in which tab?
[11:28] <PatrickDickey> Updates tab.
[11:28] <Braden`> Is there a way to force apt-get to install a package even if apt is locked by another running apt?
[11:28] <Siegel-> PatrickDickey: there are recommended updates, important security updates, pre-released updates (unchecked) and unsupported updates. should i uncheck recommended?
[11:28] <ThinkT510> Braden`: you don't want to do that
[11:29] <PatrickDickey> Siegel-: nope. You're good. The Pre-released is proposed.
[11:29] <Braden`> I am pretty sure valgrind (what I am wanting to install) will not interfere with any of the updates going on
[11:29] <Braden`> Is there a way to force the download of the dpkg from apt?
[11:29] <User123> ThinkT510, argh, sound is +1-2seconds but that may be video itself problem, is there any option for changing video/audio timing?
[11:29] <Siegel-> PatrickDickey: ooh ok. so ill just leave it at that i guess haha.
[11:29] <ThinkT510> Braden`: wait till the updates are done then
[11:29] <Braden`> ThinkT510:  It will take to long.  Its a do-release-upgrade
[11:29] <ThinkT510> User123: no idea sorry
[11:29] <Braden`> Is there a way to force the download of the dpkg from apt?
[11:30] <Guest73582> sweetz
[11:30] <Guest73582> hiiii to all
[11:30] <ThinkT510> Braden`: that will break things if you interupt it
[11:30] <JmCourir> Hi guys, I have 6 monitors, they are all working fine. But I have a little problem. How to say to Ubuntu - Gnome3 how to select my (prefered display) to open games, apps with?
[11:30] <PatrickDickey> Yep. Sorry that I can't be of more help Siegel-. Everything that I've ever done isn't working for you. The only other thing you could try is sudo dpkg --purge --pending
[11:30] <PatrickDickey> Siegel-: if you try that, close the update manager first.
[11:31] <Siegel-> PatrickDickey: and these two are under "important security updates" aw well
[11:31] <Siegel-> PatrickDickey:  i was thinking of reinstalling the os
[11:31] <Siegel-> PatrickDickey: i never save anything on my computer anyway so its  no prob
[11:31] <Mrokii> phone, afk
[11:32] <PatrickDickey> Siegel-: you can do that also. Make sure any files that you want to keep are backed up though.
[11:32] <Siegel-> i have no files. my computer is an internet machine and all the pics i have are saved on usb devices
[11:32] <User123> ThinkT510, no problem, but i thought that it takes less time to get video working on ubuntu...
[11:32] <Siegel-> PatrickDickey: however i think im gonna get lubuntu this time. since i do only use my computer for browsing
[11:33] <ThinkT510> User123: vlc works flawlessly for me
[11:33] <Braden`> So there is no way to download a file from apt even if you don't want to immediately install it while apt is already running?
[11:33] <circle> I want to find a program where I can draw some very simple mathematical diagrams. Very simple. I would normally use paint but I don't have paint on Linux, and the recreations aren't that good. What do you suggest?
[11:33] <User123> ThinkT510, I'm not very lucky then :(
[11:33] <penyulap> can someone help me, I want to copy files into the current directory, but I don't use the command line much, and otherwise it doesn't seem to work because i have to be root, so I sudo instead. I want to copy a directory called for example boxofapples into the current directory. is it like this >sudo cp ///home/me/.arduino/boxofapples/* -r /
[11:33] <cmd-h> circle: Ubuntu Software Center
[11:34] <Alexi> circle, LibreOffice i think can do that
[11:34] <circle> whatr's the learning curve like?
[11:34] <Alexi> approximately 42 degrees )
[11:35] <PatrickDickey> Siegel-: Lubuntu sounds good. Or even Xubuntu. Technically that's what I have running. even though I use Unity and the ubuntu desktop.
[11:35] <User123> ThinkT510, I can't even shut down VLC and in system monitor it's said that it uses 180% cpu :D
[11:35] <penyulap> Does anyone use the command line anymore ? I dont' use it much
[11:35] <Siegel-> PatrickDickey: is there a way of doing that without creating a startup disk?
[11:35] <PatrickDickey> penyulap: is the current directory one that you have write permissions to?
[11:35] <tenX_> PatrickDickey: lubuntu? for losers?
[11:35] <Alexi> User, type   "sudo pkill -9 vlc"
[11:35] <penyulap> no, i think it is the one that I don't
[11:36] <PatrickDickey> tenX_: lubuntu = lightweight (computers)
[11:36] <penyulap> it's usr/share/arduino/libraries
[11:36] <tenX_> PatrickDickey: ah ;)
[11:36] <penyulap> it doesn't like me fooling around in there, but that is where i am supposed to put the new files i think
[11:36] <tenX_> PatrickDickey: how lightweight is it
[11:36] <PatrickDickey> penyulap: try this sudo cp -r /home/me/.arduino/boxofapples .
[11:36] <User123> Alexi, worked, thanks, what -9 is for?
[11:36] <tenX_> PatrickDickey: like debian netinstall?
[11:36] <Chotaz> Can anyone help em with ubuntu and siplay graphics driver for a geforce 9600gt?
[11:36] <wols_> penyulap: what problem are you trying to solve?
[11:36] <ThinkT510> User123: system monitor does cpu usage at 100% per core
[11:37] <Alexi> -9 is the SIGNAL you are sending , SIGKILL i think it is
[11:37] <PatrickDickey> tenX_: It's light on the desktop side. It uses Lxfce instead of Gnome/KDE.
[11:37] <User123> ThinkT510, ah, ok I have 2 cores, it's ok then.
[11:37] <tenX_> PatrickDickey: k thx 4 info
[11:37] <penyulap> :D it worked it worked Omg it worked :D
[11:38] <bazhang> PatrickDickey, lxde is lubuntu, xfce is xubuntu
[11:38] <PatrickDickey> wols, penyulap is trying to copy files from a directory in their home to a directory that they don't normally have write permissions.
[11:38] <penyulap> thank you PatrickDickey
[11:38] <bazhang> there is not a lxfce
[11:38] <phaber> hola !!!
[11:38] <PatrickDickey> Sorry bazhang, I get them confused.
[11:38] <Alexi> User123: "sudo kill -L" gives a list of SIGNAL names
[11:38] <Mrokii> ThinkT510: I don't know. I installed nvidia-current from synaptic and from the terminal a second time.
[11:38] <PatrickDickey> hola phaber, como estas?
[11:38] <Anshul> python
[11:38] <PatrickDickey> you're welcome penyulap. I hope that helped you out.
[11:38] <bazhang> !es | phaber
[11:39] <ThinkT510> Mrokii: the module is just called nvidia
[11:39] <tenX_> PatrickDickey: how about fubuntu, with fluxbox
[11:39] <bazhang> tenX_, thats fedora
[11:39] <phaber> bien.... estoy provando a intender como se hace con mirc.....
[11:39] <penyulap> it did, thank you Patrick
[11:39] <PatrickDickey> tenX_: never heard of it. I've heard of mythbuntu, edubuntu, lubuntu, xubuntu, kubuntu, and ubuntu (gnome remix also).
[11:39] <bazhang> tenX_, unless you meant fluxbuntu
[11:39] <User123> After killing VLC process gnome player works fine. I think VLC was making the video to lag. :D
[11:39] <Mrokii> ThinkT510: And how does that help?
[11:39] <ThinkT510> Mrokii: nvidia-current is just the package name in the package manager
[11:39] <tenX_> bazhang: does it really exist?
[11:39] <Alexi> Nice 1 User123
[11:39] <bazhang> s/fubuntu/fuduntu/
[11:40] <tenX_> PatrickDickey: just a guess
[11:40] <tenX_> PatrickDickey: word play
[11:40] <ThinkT510> Mrokii: lsmod nv*
[11:40] <PatrickDickey> phaber, quieres #ubuntu-es. Mi espanol is poquito.
[11:40] <bazhang> tenX_, it is unofficial. you can install fluxbox on ubuntu if you choose
[11:40] <phaber> el mio tambien....
[11:40] <Alexi> User123: if you know the Process ID number, you can do  kill -9 <number> or if you only know the name theen its  pkill -9 <name of process>
[11:41] <tenX_> bazhang: yes of course. was just trying to throw something in
[11:41] <Mrokii> ThinkT510: That doesn't seem to work. I only get "usage: lsmod"
[11:41] <ThinkT510> Mrokii: then nvidia module isn't loaded
[11:41] <Mrokii> ThinkT510: Is there a way to manually load it?
[11:41] <ThinkT510> Mrokii: pastebin the output of lsmod
[11:42] <User123> Alexi, -L shows that 9 is KILL, got it, thanks! And how do I know how process is called?
[11:42] <Alexi> Mrokii:  sudo modprobe <module name>
[11:42] <Alexi> User123:  "top" or "htop" or "ps -A"  gives a list of running processes
[11:43] <wols_> User123: or you simply use "killall" and you can use the name. no need for a PID
[11:43] <Alexi> ty wols_
[11:43] <Mrokii> ThinkT510: One moment, will take a second or two. I'm on a very small resolution currently.
[11:43] <User123> wols_, won't killall will kill all the processes? :)
[11:44] <Alexi> No, just all instances of <vlc> if there's more than 1 running
[11:44] <Mrokii> ThinkT510: http://pastebin.com/KyMTCnZS
[11:45] <Mrokii> Alexi: I already did that. I get "FATAL: Module nvidia_current not found."
[11:45] <Alexi> User123: "sudo killall vlc"  i guess would be how to do it
[11:45] <User123> Ok, got it, thanks, you all are awesome. Thanks again :)
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> Hey guys, can I dd an installed Ubuntu partition to a USB stick, add Grub to the MBR and use it as a USB OS? (obviously changing UUIDs in /etc/fstab and so forth)
[11:48] <nibbler_> ActionParsnip: you can even cp it to save time and convert fs...
[11:48] <Alexi> Mrokii: it may not exist in the /lib/modules? directory , you may have to manually build it, which is a bit fiddly, but you go to the the linux kernel directory ,and "make modules", "make modules install" or something
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> nibbler_: sweet, that's my next lump of fun then. Got my install to 2.9Gb and fancied a chuckle :). Thanks :D
[11:48] <nibbler_> ActionParsnip: but i have very bad experience with running OS from usb, at least long term
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> nibbler_: oh definately, its just to see if I can
[11:49] <Mrokii> Alexi: "or something" doesn't sound too good when it comes to fiddling with the kernel. :)
[11:49] <nibbler_> ActionParsnip: then enjoy ;-) depends a bit on your bios obv.
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> nibbler_: yeah thats all good, I install via USB
[11:49] <Mrokii> I may try to install everything manually though if there's no other solution.
[11:50] <Alexi> Mrokii: Im not familiar with your machine, but When i needed a module, I turned it on in the kernel config, and then compiled it, then modprobed it.
[11:51] <wols_> Mrokii: you are lacking the nvidia module? what dos dpkg -l |grep nvidia say?
[11:51] <wols_> there should be some nvidia-kernel or sopackage shown
[11:51] <wols_> ActionParsnip: you can't. you would have to reinstall grub. then you could
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> wols_: "dd Grub to the MBR"  ;)
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> *add
[11:52] <Mrokii> wols_: It shows me some lines about nvidia-drivers that are installed.
[11:53] <Mrokii> wols_: ii  nvidia-current                                              310.14-0ubuntu1~xedgers~quantal3                    amd64        NVIDIA binary Xorg driver, kernel module and VDPAU library
[11:53] <Mrokii> rc  nvidia-experimental-304                                     304.48-0ubuntu1                                     amd64        Experimental NVIDIA binary Xorg driver, kernel module and VDPAU library
[11:53] <Mrokii> ii  nvidia-settings                                             310.14-0ubuntu1~xedgers~quantal2                    amd64        Tool for configuring the NVIDIA graphics driver
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> Mrokii: sudo dpkg -P nvidia-experimental-304
[11:53] <wols_> ActionParsnip: grub needs to know where to find stage 1.5 and 2. that is written to the MBR wen installing. basically patching the grub code. dd won't help
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> Mrokii: please use a pastebin for multiple lined outputs
[11:54] <Mrokii> ActionParsnip: Sorry, next time. I need to reboot after that command?
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> wols_: can I chroot to the USB OS and sort Grub from there?
[11:54] <MaxedOut> What are some basic spreadsheet calculators that work under console other than sc?  (SC is really to powerful for what I want, which is to setup a table of strings that I can modify on the fly during a ssh session)
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> Mrokii: worth a try
[11:54] <wols_> ActionParsnip: that's fine, yes. bind mount /proc and /dev/ beforehand
[11:55] <Mrokii> I'll see. Thanks for now.
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> wols_: absolutely. I've chrooted a few times :)
[11:55] <MaxedOut> I'm not really using it for calculations, just to organize data as I go from site to site.
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> !info oleo
[11:55] <Hippie_> Hi
[11:55] <wols_> !info nvidia-current
[11:56] <Alexi> MaxedOut:  gnumeric, libreoffice has one, may  be also too much.
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> !info ses
[11:56] <andrea__> hy any support for medibuntu?
[11:56] <wols_> mrmist: use the propre ubuntu nvidia-current module. not the xedgers one. waste of bytes anyways for your system
[11:56] <MaxedOut> Alexi: I've never heard of gnumeric so I'll try that.  I thought Libreoffice was strictly GUI
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> MaxedOut: there is ss too which is an sc derrivative
[11:56] <Hippie_> whats the best way to install nvidia drivers on a fresh installation
[11:57] <wols_> mrmist: gnumeric is X too. and libreoffice as well of course
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> Hippie_: there is no best way
[11:57] <Alexi> MaxedOut: sorry, i misread that you wanted a console program, gnumeric is also a gui
[11:57] <dr_willis> andrea__: its an unofficial 3rd party repo. so not really
[11:57] <wols_> !nvidia | Hippie_
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> Hippie_: I use:  sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> !info slsc
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> !info ss
[11:57] <MaxedOut> Alexi: oh, okay that happens.
[11:57] <Michiellllaptop> why is my 11.10 install asking to update to 12.04 instead of 12.10?
[11:57] <dr_willis> !medibuntu
[11:57] <wols_> ActionParsnip: ask ubottu in private, until you found it :P
[11:57] <andrea__> my problem is video on YT and others, i can see just a few videos; any suggestions?
[11:58] <wols_> int3nz0r: cause you must upgrade to the next ubuntu version. you can't skip releases
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> wols_: will do
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> MaxedOut: http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/SimpleEmacsSpreadsheet
[11:58] <MaxedOut> ActionParsnip: I've never tried ss so I'll look into it.  I really just want to organize strings in a nice easy to read table.  i'm not using it for calculations.  Do you have any other recommendations?
[11:58] <wols_> Michiellllaptop: ^^
[11:58] <MaxedOut> ActionParsnip: thanks!
[11:58] <dr_willis> Michiellllaptop: you upgrade from lts to lts.. or to each release in order.
[11:58] <int3nz0r> wols_ wrong highlight ;)
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> MaxedOut: http://sourceforge.net/projects/oleo/
[11:59] <Michiellllaptop> okГ© imma delay the next update though, this one is taking like 45min already
[11:59] <Michiellllaptop> i dont need another hour wasted after this
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> MaxedOut: these aren't recommendations, its just stuff I'm finding
[11:59] <MaxedOut> ActionParsnip: Well your google fu is better than mine.  I kept pulling up sc through various searches, I suppose because it is the most powerful of the console tools.
[12:00] <Bustacap> So if I install nvidia-current, when I reboot, I get a blank screen with my desktop and I can't do anything. What can I do to fix it :/
[12:00] <dr_willis> i used sc for many years. ;-)
[12:00] <Michiellllaptop> unity just closed i think o.O
[12:00] <Mrokii> ActionParsnip: Still nothing. This time modprobe tells me that 304 can't be loaded. Guess I'll see if I can install/compile or whatever the drivers manually. :(
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> Mrokii: you can't compile the proprietary driver, its proprietary
[12:01] <Michiellllaptop> all the menu bars have disappeared and i can't alt+tab
[12:01] <wols_> somehow it's funny. everyone has nvidia problems. and there they said it'd be the one to get for linux... imagine that
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> Mrokii: could uninstall the nvidia-current you have, remove the edgers PPA then install the one from the Ubuntu repos
[12:01] <Mrokii> ActionParsnip: I mean install it manually. I know I did that before.
[12:01] <Michiellllaptop> and it says it still needs 30minutes :|
[12:01] <dr_willis> ive rarely had nvidia problems. ;-)
[12:01] <wols_> rickbol: purge ALL nvidia drivers you have installed, and run depmod -a
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> wols_: nvidia has been flawless here for many many years
[12:02] <wols_> Mrokii: installing manually is a foolish thing
[12:02] <wols_> Mrokii: ^
[12:02] <dr_willis> had more issues with intel here.
[12:02] <Mrokii> ActionParsnip: I have installed the 304 one and activated it (at least according to the repository-GUI.
[12:02] <Alexi> i like nouveau, and it will soon have reclocking for my card.
[12:02]  * Michiellllaptop now hates updates -.-
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> seen more issues with AMD/Radeon and SiS things
[12:02] <Mrokii> wols_: If you have a better idea...
[12:02] <wols_> Mrokii: I just told you what to do. your choice
[12:03] <unityman> I will support unity. Even though there are like ten of thousands of Icons that Unity could have used along with better GUI like cairo that could get the job done better. Real support is for intergration of cell phones and tablets. Like were there taking Ubuntu 12.04 to 14.04
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> Mrokii: what does nvidia-settings say you are using?
[12:03] <wols_> Mrokii: purge them all and stop using xedgers. run depmod -a before trying again
[12:03] <Mrokii> ActionParsnip: It tells me that the 304 driver is used.
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> unityman: then use Cairo...nothing stopping you
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> Mrokii: cool, did you try running: sudo nvidia-xconfig    and rebooting?
[12:04] <Mrokii> ActionParsnip: No, didn't try xconfig again, forgot about that. Though I somehow doubt that it will work, as I had used that before with the other driver. Anyhow, I'll try. Thanks for now.
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> unityman: I use Lubuntu + xompmgr + Docky. Works well: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/QuantalDesktop.png
[12:05] <unityman> ActionParsnip: Agreed just was unsure of the vision Mark Staleworth had for ubuntu. But his idea is much clearer now.
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> unityman: I switched from plank 9in that  image) to docky recently
[12:06] <unityman> ActionParsnip: When I'm get down to nutts and bolts I use Arch Linux with Openbox and Conky with RSS feeds.
[12:06] <fra> ciao
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> unityman: if you install xcompmgr and add:  @xcompmgr -n    to your session config, you can use compositing :)
[12:07] <fra> !list
[12:07] <dr_willis> so fra. do you  ! list every channel you join?
[12:08] <Mrokii> As I thought. Didn't help as well. So I'm getting rid of all that nVidia-crap for a while, so at least I can use this installation.
[12:08] <unityman> ActionParsnip: probably going to load Gnome 3 and cairo with kupfer. I usually use kupfer over all much faster then my mouse.
[12:08] <seednode> so
[12:10] <wojtek> Hi guys. I have a problem with 12.04->12.10 upgrade (RAID1). Grub says "Path `/boot/grub' is not readable by GRUB on boot. Installation is impossible. Aborting." I have already tried boot-repair, but without luck (http://paste.ubuntu.com/1306993/). Any help would be appreciated...
[12:10] <unityman> ActionParsnip: Wireless keyboard and mouse  on a 32" LED Vizio Tv. Watch Football through firstrowsports.eu and Veetle for movies..
[12:14] <unityman> ActionParsnip: Waiting to see what ISP plan for torrents and illegal downloads.  Seen on CNN they plan to limit bandwidth if you violate there policy here in near future. May need to spoof My Commcast subscribtion
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> unityman: 32" Toshiba TV of some sort (I'm not that interested in TVs to care) for remote controlling VLC with my android phone and the occasional blast on Urban Terror
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> unityman: Unlimited everything here so far in the UK.
[12:16] <unityman> ActionParsnip: Yep, UK doesn't have the same copyright laws as America... I am starting to hate my country in all round about ways... :(..
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> unityman: 'land of the free' ;)
[12:18] <unityman> ActionParsnip: Hey just get rid of Corprate America and the American Dream will love on.. Greed is not Good!
[12:18] <Eagleman> How do i see which port is being used for submission in postfix>?
[12:19] <unityman> Eagleman: port scanner should give you that info...
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> Eagleman: there is #postfix too, slightly more precise to your issue. Could be useful to ask there too
[12:20] <Eagleman> It only shows which ports are open?
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> Eagleman: 'netstat -a' can show active ports etc.
[12:21] <Eagleman> Also tried that, but it doesnt show me who or what used that port and for what:   tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:587             0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN
[12:21] <Pici> Eagleman: sudo netstat -tanp will list process names
[12:22] <Eagleman> master/ so its postfix
[12:23] <lazarus_> when useing wget is it possible to only download certain file type i.e exclude .jpg files from the download
[12:23] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[12:23] <yeehi> I want to find .iso files inside a folder - The folder I want to search has many sub folders. /home/saved/ How do I search for iso files inside all these sub folders?
[12:24] <Pici> yeehi: find /path/ -iname "*.iso"
[12:24] <yeehi> thanks Pici - let me try that
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> lazarus_: i the images are in a single folder you can use the --cut-dirs=   option
[12:28] <gongysh> who knows how to make networkmanager not to manage a given network device?
[12:28] <gongysh> on ubuntu 12.04
[12:28] <yeehi> pici - that didn't work - nothing happened...
[12:29] <Pici> yeehi: did you replace /path/ with /home/saved ?
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> lazarus_: there is also the --reject    option and you can specify the rejection of the files you don't want.
[12:29] <codefyre> lazarus: wget -R
[12:29] <yeehi> yes, pici
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> lazarus_: guess where I'm getting this from?
[12:29] <lazarus_> because i need to make a backup of a website but i only need the html files no images and so on
[12:29] <yeehi> let me try again, pici
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> codefyre: yes but to then not download certain files...?
[12:29] <codefyre> lazarus: wget -R jpg
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> lazarus_: guess where I'm getting this stuff from?
[12:30] <lazarus_> ActionParsnip: the help pages
[12:30] <yeehi> pici, how do i convert the icons at the top of nautilus into a path directory I can copy / paste?
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> lazarus_: man wget
[12:30] <lazarus_> ah
[12:30] <Pici> yeehi: I don't know, sorry.  I mostly use the terminal for everything I do.
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> lazarus_: thats literally all I am reading, and what you want is there.....did you not read that before asking?
[12:31] <yeehi> you are cool Pici! I should get better with the command line...
[12:31] <lazarus_> i was just confused as to what i was reading
[12:32] <alluazad> Hi all
[12:32] <alluazad> Will shipit be sending dvd again >?
[12:32] <alluazad> sooner
[12:32] <alluazad> ?
[12:33] <ksbalaji> After tiner
[12:34] <ksbalaji> After tinkering a lot, now I am on a liveusb. Now, the / doesnot have a vmlinuz link. Does this mean I lose everything on reboot? If so, how to recreate link? SOS please
[12:36] <IdleOne> alluazad: Canonical no longer ships free cd/dvd.
[12:36] <alluazad> will any other company take up the project ?
[12:37] <alluazad> it was very helpful before
[12:37] <IdleOne> alluazad: probably not.
[12:37] <ksbalaji> Is it ok to have a vmlinuz zip file in / instead of a normal vmlinuz?  SOS please
[12:38] <alluazad> will speed be an issue if i am installing 12.10 inside win 7 64 bit ?
[12:38] <alluazad> ram is 4 gb
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> alluazad: you can buy them from the canonical store, or even ebay
[12:39] <IdleOne> alluazad: what do you mean by :inside" ?
[12:39] <IdleOne> "inside"
[12:39] <alluazad> inside like virtual
[12:39] <alluazad> there is an option for that right ?
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> alluazad: do you mean Wubi?
[12:40] <alluazad> yes thats it
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> alluazad: that's not virtual
[12:40] <IdleOne> alluazad: installing in a VM will take a performance hit which is expected
[12:40] <alluazad> so wubi is not virtual ?
[12:40] <IdleOne> no
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> alluazad: you just use your crappy NTFS to hold a file which stores your Ubuntu OS
[12:41] <MonkeyDust> alluazad  wubi is a pseudo-installation, so to say, inside windows
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> alluazad: it is loop mounted at boot and booted to
[12:41] <alluazad> so i am using it like any other program in win 7 right ?
[12:41] <alluazad> so there will not be any speed issue
[12:41] <MonkeyDust> alluazad  yes
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> alluazad: it is installed as a program but you still need to reboot to get to Ubuntu
[12:42] <MonkeyDust> alluazad  my yes referred to your first question
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> alluazad: I recommend you resize yourNTFS using Windows 7 disk manager then install to the freed space
[12:42] <alluazad> ntfs not supported ?
[12:42] <Eagleman> !ntfs
[12:43] <nessi_-> my upgrade vim 12.04 to 12.10 is messed up. I was asked to restart at some point during the upgrade, ever since I don't have any X working nor network working. When I run apt-get upgrade I get many packets listed which are not yet installed. "-f" does not work either, when I do that it tries to download some more packets which it cannot due to lack of network connectivity. Can I boot from USB/CD and resume the upgrade from the USB/CD medi
[12:43] <nessi_-> instead?
[12:43] <IdleOne> alluazad: it is supported in that you can read/write to ntfs but you can't do a real install of Ubuntu to ntfs.
[12:44] <alluazad> ok i get it
[12:44] <alluazad> i will do wubi
[12:44] <alluazad> so that it will not mess with partition
[12:44] <IdleOne> alluazad: sounds like a safe option for you at this point.
[12:44] <MonkeyDust> idd :)
[12:45] <alluazad> yea :) i dont want to lose data in the hdd
[12:45] <alluazad> if there will no speed issue , then i am good to go
[12:45] <ex0a> nessi_-: boot with livecd then chroot into the install and upgrade that way
[12:45] <nessi_-> ex0a: I'll try that, Thanks
[12:46] <alluazad> one more question : why major game titles are not in linux ?
[12:46] <alluazad> is ubuntu not good for graphical gaming ?
[12:46] <wojtek> Why grub-install returns with "Path `/boot/grub' is not readable by GRUB on boot. Installation is impossible. Aborting." error? (Ubuntu 12.10, software RAID1). Here is log from boot-repair: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1306993/)
[12:46] <pestilence> i used to have keyboard shortcuts that made a window take up half the screen on the left, half the screen on the right, and maximize/unmaximize.  Any ideas on how to get that back?
[12:46] <ex0a> alluazad: because the hardware manufacturers aren't concerned about linux drivers
[12:47] <pestilence> in keyboard shortcuts for "windows" i only see "maximize" as an option
[12:47] <alluazad> that is one thing i am not entirely shifting to ubuntu . i will miss gaming :(
[12:47] <pestilence> for some reason when i upgraded from 12.04 to 12.10, the keyboard shortcuts didn't make it.
[12:48] <pestilence> alluazad: steam for linux isn't far away
[12:48] <alluazad> will linux be capable to use my graphics card ?
[12:48] <alluazad> nvidia has drivers for ubuntu >
[12:48] <alluazad> ?
[12:49] <_cronus_> nessi_-, you should be able to do that, but it might be easier to get the network running...
[12:49] <ex0a> alluazad: yeah you should be okay, they may lack some of the advanced features that you would get in windows though
[12:49] <alluazad> ok ok
[12:49] <alluazad> i will install 12.10 to get the feel of it :0
[12:50] <alluazad> :)
[12:52] <pestilence> alluazad: yes, nvidia makes linux drivers.  they work just fine.
[12:52] <pranav> do parcellite doesn't works with 12.04
[12:52] <pranav> ?
[12:53] <amaurea> Hi! I'm on ubuntu 12.04, and I'm trying to add a SMB printer. This page (http://askubuntu.com/questions/153517/ubuntu-12-04-network-printing-through-windows-samba-server) shows a nice-looking configuration panel with all the settings I need to fill in, but on my own system, the printer settings dialogue found in system settings lacks almost all of these options.
[12:53] <amaurea> So I guess I'm using the wrong program for adding this
[12:54] <pestilence> alluazad: yes, really
[12:55] <alluazad> brb need to check
[12:56] <dr_willis> amaurea: you could try the cups web interface also. http://localhost:631
[12:57] <amaurea> dr_willis: This looks promising. Thanks :)
[12:57] <callcenter> hola
[12:57] <callcenter> aaa
[12:58] <fego> hi callcenter
[12:58] <pestilence> alluazad: in 12.10, package nvidia-current has Version: 304.51.really.304.43-0ubuntu1
[13:00] <IdleOne> Ubuntu Open Week - IRC session with AlanBell http://youtu.be/aYvqlUpZLhk starting any second #ubuntu-classroom-chat www.ubuntuonair.com
[13:01] <pinnerup> ardchoille: Double Commander is now out in the PPA for quantal. I suggest you give it a try if you like Orthodox File Managers :)
[13:04] <amaurea> dr_willis: How do I set the username and password to be used for the SMB printer using the cups web interface?
[13:04] <alluazad> confirmed :)
[13:06] <dr_willis> amaurea: not sure. havent done  a windows shared printer in years
[13:06] <amaurea> Does anybody else here know?
[13:09] <_cronus_> amaurea, why not using system settings? it is probably easier...
[13:09] <amaurea> _cronus_: see my original question 12 min ago
[13:10] <alluazad> bye bye
[13:10] <alluazad> all
[13:10] <amaurea> system settings' add printer dialog does not contain the settings I need. It just automatically tries to find all printers, and doesn't let me specify the SMB details, unlike the example on the page I linked to
[13:10] <BrianBlaze> anyone know what the best way after compying a file how to clear out the old one so it is empty without deleting each line one at a time
[13:11] <_cronus_> amaurea, you should be able to get to these settings. have you selected the windows printer via samba option?
[13:11] <ardchoille> pinnerup: Oh, nice. Thank you for that!
[13:11] <pestilence> BrianBlaze: rm?
[13:11] <llutz> BrianBlaze: "> filename"
[13:11] <BrianBlaze> I don't want to remove
[13:11] <BrianBlaze> just empty it out lol
[13:11] <pestilence> you just want to truncate it?
[13:11] <amaurea> _cronus_: I have no samba option. I have a "local" and "network" option, and these have no sub-options
[13:11] <pestilence> rm && touch ?
[13:11] <jrib> BrianBlaze: I would just use mv and then create an empty file. It will be faster in some cases
[13:11] <pestilence> oh, llutz's suggestion is easier.
[13:12] <amaurea> _cronus_: the "network" option has a box where I can tell it to search for printers by name, and that's all
[13:12] <amaurea> _cronus_: I'll make a screenshot of it
[13:13] <somethinginteres> fstab seems to be giving my HDD the wrong permissions. I just want to automount on boot, problem is root is the owner of "My_Book". Can't figure out why. http://pastebin.com/GSEKk7a2
[13:13] <jrib> somethinginteres: you don't have any options related to ownership in your fstab
[13:13] <llutz> somethinginteres: because fstab-mounts are done as root. use "uid/gid" in mount-options to change that
[13:13] <jrib> !ntfs | somethinginteres
[13:14] <amaurea> _cronus_: http://folk.uio.no/sigurdkn/add_printer.png
[13:17] <PatrickDickey> Now, I've got a strange question. I have Skype open on Xubuntu 12.10. When I close it, it is supposed to go to the notification area, but it disappears. I don't have a bottom panel at all. Any suggestions on how to fix this?
[13:17] <_cronus_> amaurea, you said you are using ubuntu 12.04, right?
[13:17] <usr13_> somethinginteres: ext4   users,rw,defaults        0       0
[13:18] <usr13_> somethinginteres: ntfs   users,rw,defaults        0       0
[13:18] <usr13_> (first one was typo)
[13:18] <BrianBlaze> oh sorry I never thanked u guys for the input so thanks!
[13:18] <somethinginteres> usr13: will try
[13:19] <usr13_> somethinginteres: ntfs   users,defaults        0       0
[13:19] <nicofs> I just upgraded to 12.10 from 12.04 and now I "can't access" my other display. I use an nVidia card and the nVidia x server settings with two displays. If I try to move the mouse over to the other display, it simply vanishes and reappears on the other corner of the same display... I can't get "over to the other one"... any ideas?
[13:19] <tyler_d> my laptop has unexpectedly shutdown 2 times this morning, what in the syslog might give me a hint of what is going on?
[13:19] <tyler_d> 12.04 64
[13:20] <amaurea> _cronus_: Yes
[13:20] <amaurea> _cronus_: It didn't start out as that version, though. Perhaps an update only went through partially, if that is an older version of the dialogue box?
[13:22] <lanoxx> is there a way to find orphaned file on ubuntu (e.g. files that do not belong to a package) (except /home/ of course
[13:22] <unityman> uname -a
[13:23] <somethinginteres> usr13: no go. Same. 2TB works, same info. Says "not the owner, can't change permissions in properties dialog.
[13:23] <ratbert90> Hey, if anybody is around, I have a issue with nfs and samba exibiting the same problem.  I have a second EXT4 hard-drive, and nfs or samba refuse to open or share folders on it.   Does anybody know how to fix this?
[13:23] <Zuhaitz> Hi, I updated my Ubuntu Linux 12.04 to 12.10, I have it configured in BASQUE/NAVARRE language, the problem is that now some parts are in the second language (incomplete), should I reinstall? may be is not translated in 12.10? or may I reinstall 12.10 from zero? Thanks for the atention.
[13:24] <usr13_> somethinginteres: Did you log out and back in again?
[13:24] <usr13_> and remount
[13:24] <usr13_> umount and mount
[13:25] <somethinginteres> usr13: yep
[13:25] <_cronus_> amaurea, sorry, i can't think of what might be causing this.
[13:25] <Chotaz> Hello everyone, I'm having some problems with my NVidia graphics card and ubuntu 12.10, can anyone spare me some time?
[13:26] <amaurea> _cronus_: Ok, no worries. Thanks anyways
[13:26] <yossarianuk> hi -I need help with compiling the ubuntu kernel - i.e kernel + ubuntu patches..  I know how to compile a kernel generally from  kernel.org (make-kpkg), and I know how to use git to do it .
[13:26] <yossarianuk> I would like to know how to compile via the linux-source-3.5.0 package....  I notice the kernel source is @ /usr/src/linux-source-3.5.0/linux-source-3.5.0.tar.bz2 - is this just the vinilla source ? what do I do with the debian/ + debian.master/ folders ? Do I use make-kpkg or the standard debian packaging commands
[13:28] <usr13_> Chotaz: What's the problem?
[13:29] <jrib> !kernel | yossarianuk
[13:29] <Chotaz> usr13_: After freshly installing the system, the gpu fans were at 100% all the time, like no drivers were loaded, so I search around system settings and found it was using an opensource drive, so I switched to the one that corresponds to nvidia-current (the tested one) and after rebooting I can't see my desktop properly only a small square at the center of the monitor is visible all the rest is black.
[13:30] <usr13_> Chotaz: How did you install it?
[13:31] <Chotaz> usr13_: I stumbled upon the driver option while searching around the tabs for the software updates that pop up after the instalation
[13:31] <yossarianuk> jrib: I do want to compile it... I have always done so, my question was really about thr linux-source package..
[13:31] <Michiellllaptop> i installed dropbox from the software center and now it says it's running from an unsupported location. Is this known and does it matter?
[13:31] <jrib> yossarianuk: so read the link ubottu gave you.
[13:32] <usr13_> Chotaz: mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[13:32] <yossarianuk> will do - thanks
[13:32] <Michiellllaptop> hmmm, nobody knows then?
[13:33] <Chotaz> usr13_: I can't even access the terminal, the square centered at the screen is only a part of the desktop, I can't access any menus, as they are beyond the visible square and the mouse only works inside it
[13:33] <Zuhaitz> Hi, I updated my Ubuntu Linux 12.04 to 12.10, I have it configured in BASQUE/NAVARRE language, the problem is that now some parts are in the second language (incomplete), should I reinstall? may be is not translated in 12.10? or may I reinstall 12.10 from zero? Thanks for the atention.
[13:33] <magic_al> i ve just installed ubuntu 12.10 on a brand new lenovo thinkpad. my card reader dosnt work out. what can i do?
[13:35] <usr13_> Chotaz: Ctrl-Alt-F6  #And log in.
[13:35] <Chotaz> usr13_: ok, done, the filed as been renamed, should I do anything else?
[13:36] <usr13_> yes
[13:36] <nicofs> After an update to 12.10 I can't access my other screen... the mouse "refuses to go there"... please help...
[13:37] <usr13_> Chotaz: sudo service lightdm restart
[13:37] <wastrel> nicofs: did you check in the displays settings
[13:39] <nicofs> wastrel, I use nVidia X Server Settings and by now I must have tries every single possibility of setting my system up...
[13:39] <nicofs> *tried
[13:39] <wastrel> i dunno from nvidia
[13:40] <d1gital> hey, #ubuntu, I'm trying to set up a secondary monitor on my laptop.  The second display has a higher resolution than the laptop's LCD, so when I set them side-by-side in ARandR, there's always a piece of the display which is inaccessible.  There must be a way to make the display L-shaped, right?
[13:41] <Magentium> digital, what kind of graphics adapter do you have? how are you hooking up the other monitor, and what version of Ubuntu are you running?
[13:41] <Chotaz> usr13_: i'll restart now to test this, brb.
[13:42] <Chotaz> usr13_: ^
[13:42] <john_doe_jr> I have a script that is running and errors out @ the terminalвҖҰit writes a lot of stuff to the terminal but I can't see all the infoвҖҰis there any way I can see all the info @ the terminal?
[13:42] <d1gital> Magentium: here's the adapter info: http://pastebin.com/4SMHy7qb
[13:43] <magic_al> i ve just installed ubuntu 12.10 on a brand new lenovo thinkpad. my card reader dosnt work out. what can i do?
[13:43] <d1gital> Magentium: it's a Samsung 1600x1200 LCD connected via the laptop's VGA port.
[13:44] <d1gital> Magentium: and I'm on precise
[13:44] <ratbert90> anybody?
[13:44] <sporkboy> okay... I can only get the battery meter showing if I also show the print, messaging, and volume, thus making my titlebar look really cluttered, mostly with stuff I'll never use. any way I can disable things inside of indicator-applet?
[13:44] <simplew> is possible to access ubuntu cloud form another OS?
[13:44] <ratbert90> This is pretty terrible, and ubuntu 12.04 didn't have any issues at all with sharing a external.
[13:45] <Magentium> and you are finding it is not scaling properly?
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> ratbert90: if you run:  smbtree  on the server, does it see it's own shares?
[13:46] <d1gital> It works fine if I use only the external monitor, or run both at the same vertical resolution.  The problem comes in when I want to run the monitor at its full resolution, which is taller than the laptop
[13:46] <usr13_> Chotaz: You don't need to restart, just go back to tty7,  Ctrl-Alt-F7  or Alt-Right-Arrow
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> simplew: should be ok in theory, 'access' in what way?
[13:46] <simplew> ActionParsnip: im in windows now, can i access it from here?
[13:47] <ratbert90> ActionParsnip, no
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> simplew: access it to do what? FTP? SSH? HTTP? What?
[13:47] <ratbert90> ActionParsnip, nfs does though, but gives me a access denied error
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> ratbert90: then you need to check there first before you start messing with client systems
[13:47] <d1gital> If I extend the desktop across both monitors, there's an inaccessible rectangle above the laptop's LCD which is part of the display area, but is invisible
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> ratbert90: is the samba service running?
[13:47] <simplew> ActionParsnip: i dont know, im simply asking if i can access it from windows? and if possible how?
[13:47] <ratbert90> ActionParsnip, yes
[13:47] <d1gital> i.e. windows are rendered there, desktop icons, etc
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> simplew: if it is network accessible then yes it is accessible
[13:48] <Zuhaitz> Hi, I updated my Ubuntu Linux 12.04 to 12.10, I have it configured in BASQUE/NAVARRE language, the problem is that now some parts are in the second language (incomplete), should I reinstall? may be is not translated in 12.10? or may I reinstall 12.10 from zero? Thanks for the atention.
[13:48] <simplew> ActionParsnip: so how do i do it
[13:48] <yeehi> In Nautilus, How do I add a short cut to a folder that will appear on the left side, along with e.g. home, Documents, Music
[13:48] <llutz> simplew: you mean ubuntu-one?
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> simplew: depends what to achieve. In what way are you wantinig to 'access' it. 'Access' tells us nothing
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> simplew: you can SSH to the system using putty, for example
[13:49] <simplew> ActionParsnip: i want to enter in cloud to upload files
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> simplew: or web browse to it using a we browser
[13:49] <pestilence> top
[13:49] <simplew> ActionParsnip: whats the url?
[13:49] <pestilence> doh!
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> simplew: then you can probably use SFTP which you get with the SSH server you access the system with
[13:49] <Simon1245> Hey guys, how can I change so Windows loads up first and not linux? I remember there was some program earlier that you could use to change it with a gui as I'm not very good with the terminal as I bearly use Linux.
[13:49] <simplew> ActionParsnip: whats the url to use a broswer
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> simplew: use something like filezilla and connect via SFTP to the address you connect to via SSH and you can throw files up to the server
[13:50] <simplew> ActionParsnip: whats the address?
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> simplew: if the system isn't hosting an HTTP server, its pointless trying to connect to it
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> simplew: the address is the one you connect to when you use putty/SSH
[13:50] <llutz> Simon1245: "sudo mv /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober /etc/grub.d/08_os-prober && sudo update-grub"
[13:50] <donofrio> ActionParsnip, got everything almost working - but missing the applications from my unity lens?
[13:50] <Xiol> Simon1245: You can edit something like /etc/default/grub and change the default OS to boot. I'm pretty sure it's there, not used Ubuntu for a while.
[13:51] <donofrio> ActionParsnip, "unity-lens-applications is already the newest version."
[13:51] <simplew> ActionParsnip: what?!?
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> simplew: you SSH to the system don't you. To configure it and so forth, via SSH. Right>
[13:51] <simplew> ActionParsnip: im asking whats the acress to use sin cei never used putty or any other tool to access it
[13:51] <ratbert90> ActionParsnip, I can share a local drive on SDA1, but SDB1 refuses to share the drive.  I see it as a share, but when I double click on it, it errors out with:  Failed to mount Windows share, please select another viewer and try again
[13:52] <Simon1245> Thanks llutz and Xiol :)
[13:52] <nicofs> I can't move my mouse over to my second display after upgrading to 12.10... how can I get that working again? (nVidia)
[13:52] <llutz> simplew: "ubuntu-cloud" you mean access to ubuntu-one or what exactly?
[13:52] <Simon1245> llutz, How do I start it?
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> ratbert90: you share the mount point, not the drive. sda1 and sdb1 aren't even drives. They are partitions
[13:52] <Xiol> simplew: If you've never used PuTTY or another tool to access it before, I don't think you're going to be able to achieve what you're trying to achieve in a reasonable timeframe
[13:52] <pestilence> nicofs: is the second display using twinview or is it a separate xserver?
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> simplew: where did you get this cloud thing from?
[13:52] <pestilence> nicofs: regardless, you should be able to sort it out using nvidia-settings
[13:53] <ratbert90> ActionParsnip, I know
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> donofrio: you could reinstall the package to reinstate it, may help
[13:53] <ratbert90> what I am saying is sharing a mount point ON sdb1 gives me that error
[13:53] <nicofs> pestilence, seperate x screen - but the settings don't have a checkbox for use mouse for both screens...
[13:53] <ratbert90> on SDA1 it doesn't
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> ratbert90: so why say 'drive' when you  know it's not a drive...
[13:53] <ratbert90> because the problem only occurs on trying to share on the second drive
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> ratbert90: All I can recommend is unshare the mount point, then reshare it.
[13:54] <ratbert90> tried it :\
[13:54] <luyang> Hi is the latest version 12.10?
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> ratbert90: I've ony used smb.conf to share folders, works well. How are you configuring the share?
[13:54] <wastrel> luyang: yes
[13:54] <luyang> I think I currently have 12.04. Any good reason to upgrade? Can I do it from 12.04?
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> luyang: look at the version numbers, then think about what yearit is, then think again ;)
[13:54] <d1gital> I'm trying to set up a secondary monitor on my laptop.  The second display has a higher resolution than the laptop's LCD, so when I set them side-by-side in ARandR, there's always a piece of the display which is inaccessible.  There must be a way to make the display L-shaped, right?
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> luyang: you can upgrade from Precise to Quantal in one move, yes
[13:55] <luyang> ActionParsnip:  is it year month version numbers? if so that's smrat
[13:55] <donofrio> ActionParsnip, no diffrence )-:
[13:55] <luyang> ActionParsnip: how?
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> luyang: yes, thats exactly it
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade | luyang
[13:55] <luyang> smart lads at ubuntu
[13:55] <donofrio> is it a logout login thing? or some command I need to run like "unity -justworkandshowmemyapps" switch
[13:55] <pestilence> nicofs: don't know what the answer is.  I use twinview.  Not really sure what it would mean to use the same mouse on two different x servers
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> luyang: also makes it easier to know when releases are EOL ;)
[13:55] <simplew> im in https://one.ubuntu.com/services/ and i have logged in, but now i dont see how i can upload files
[13:55] <brontosaurusrex> luyang: 12.04 is LTS, 12.10 is not
[13:56] <luyang> but 12.10 is probably 12.04 with some bells and whistles?
[13:56] <luyang> I don't need s upport anyway
[13:56] <ratbert90> with system-config-samba
[13:56] <luyang> I'm cutting edge
[13:56] <brontosaurusrex> lol
[13:56] <ratbert90> ActionParsnip, with system-config-samba
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> luyang: 12.10 has some jazzy new Unity features
[13:56] <luyang> such as?
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> ratbert90: I see, not used that, sorry
[13:56] <nicofs> pestilence, it used to be that way: push mouse over the edge of screen one and it appears on screen 2 - now it appears on the other side of the same screen...
[13:56] <Mrokii> hello. I switched back to Nouveau because I couldn't get nVidia-drivers to work. But now I have the problem that compiz isn't loaded automatically anymore after boot.
[13:56] <astropirate> Is it possible for me to continue to use my desktop as normal, and have a friend SSH into my computer with a second user and also do stuff on the computer via SSH?
[13:56] <ardchoille> !webapps
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> luyang: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3IpXE2bYv0
[13:57] <rozmuq> how do i make xchat minimize to tray when i close it:?
[13:57] <donofrio> by jazzy he means you have a few packages to remove on each install apt-get remove unity-lens-shopping unity-lens-music
[13:57] <luyang> ActionParsnip: thx
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> donofrio: depends on taste. I use Lubuntu so sidestep a lot of the fluff
[13:58] <simplew> FOR what i see i can only access ubuntu cloud if running UBUNTU
[13:58] <Mrokii> wols_: I had tried your suggestion, getting rid of xedgers, puring drivers and re-installing nVidia, plus using "depmod -a". Unfortunately that didn't make the nVidia-drivers work.
[13:58] <sporkboy> Mrokii! I just dealt with that.
[13:58] <luyang> Wow Ubuntu bundles Amazon....
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> simplew: so you want to download and upload files to your ubuntu one storage in windows? Is that right?
[13:58] <luyang> :o
[13:58] <sporkboy> Mrokii, had to put in a new ppa, lemme find the page again.
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> luyang: some love it, some hate it
[13:58] <MonkeyDust> luyang  yes, controversial decision
[13:58] <donofrio> ActionParsnip, but how do I get my application lens rendering?
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> luyang: its removable
[13:59] <luyang> MonkeyDust: I can imagine
[13:59] <luyang> ActionParsnip: I see
[13:59] <pestilence> nicofs: try using twinview.  I think that's what you want.
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> donofrio: how do you mean?
[13:59] <nicofs> pestilence, that's not what I want. I have been using seperate x screens happily for a few years now...
[14:00] <brennan_> hi room
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> simplew: https://one.ubuntu.com/downloads/windows/
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> brennan_: howdy
[14:00] <Bustacap> So after a fresh install of 12.10, how should I go about installing the latest nvidia drivers?
[14:00] <sporkboy> Mrokii, http://www.techlw.com/2012/03/install-nvidia-drivers-on-ubuntu-1204.html then go to jockey and try the.. uhm... post-something. the one right before experimental 304
[14:00] <donofrio> ActionParsnip, in that I do not have the application icon in the unity launcher but no apps listed
[14:00] <llutz> simplew: even if you don't answer questions https://one.ubuntu.com/downloads/windows/
[14:00] <Mrokii> sporkboy: I'll give it a try, thanks.
[14:01] <sporkboy> Mrokii, on a friend's, I was getting any gui with no bars.
[14:01] <sporkboy> tried like 15 things and that did it.
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> donofrio: try:    sudo apt-get --reinstall install unity-lens-applications
[14:01] <usr13_> Bustacap: You should be presented with an option for it shortly.
[14:01] <Mrokii> sporkboy: Worth a try.
[14:01] <brennan_> ActionParsnip, hey i'm playing a game and the alt+s command will not work nothing with alt will
[14:01] <Bustacap> usr13, I haven't gotten anything so I decided to do apt-get install nvidia-current.
[14:02] <Bustacap> But when I open the nvidia config, it gives me this error "You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver.  Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server."
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> brennan_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/141011/unity-customize-keys-f10-alts
[14:02] <Bustacap> When I do that, and reboot, my screen displays like crap.
[14:02] <Bustacap> And I still get the same nvidia error.
[14:03] <Bustacap> Lspci shows that my card is detected.
[14:03] <Zuhaitz> Hi, I updated my Ubuntu Linux 12.04 to 12.10, I have it configured in BASQUE/NAVARRE language, the problem is that now some parts are in the second language (incomplete), should I reinstall? may be is not translated in 12.10? or may I reinstall 12.10 from zero? Thanks for the atention.
[14:04] <usr13_> Bustacap: Or you can look for "Hardware Drivers" under "Administration"
[14:04] <iceroot> Zuhaitz: guess its not translated in 12.10
[14:04] <paolooo> hi @all, I just installed winehq and installed an application. How do I browse installed application? I'm using ubuntu 12.04
[14:04] <iceroot> Zuhaitz: because new features/text needs a translatation and as it seems its not done yet
[14:05] <Bustacap> usr13, I don't see that?
[14:05] <osse> It seems the output of the update-motd.d scripts are filtered. I only see the three first lines of my script. How can I configure this?
[14:05] <usr13_> Bustacap: Did you do  "sudo nvidia-xconfig"?
[14:05] <Zuhaitz> ice799, ok... is about the calendar, days, and things like that, so... sure? :$
[14:05] <Bustacap> Yeah, and that works but then gives me that same error when I reboot, and also I can't see anything when I reboot besides my wallpaper.
[14:05] <Mrokii> sporkboy: Won't work I guess. They don't provide a PPA for 12.10.
[14:06] <usr13_> Bustacap: Must be wrong screen-size.
[14:07] <usr13_> Bustacap: Did you look to see what screen-size it was using?  Or could you tell if you were seeing all of the background image or just a portion of it?
[14:08] <sporkboy> Mrokii, d'oh. yeah.. didn't think about that. I've taken to lts only in my old age.
[14:08] <Bustacap> I just found a lot of threads of people with the same problem so I'm going to try this fix: http://askubuntu.com/questions/202677/nvidia-driver-doesnt-work-in-12-10
[14:08] <brennan_> ActionParsnip, it didnt work anyother ideas
[14:08] <brennan_> ?
[14:08] <sporkboy> you know, because of nvidia issues every time I upgraded.
[14:09] <Mrokii> sporkboy: Thanks anyway.
[14:10] <Mrokii> These nVidia issues are a pita.
[14:10] <brennan_> ActionParsnip, the alt has a whole bunch of options that i dont want to investigate
[14:10] <sporkboy> Mrokii, you might check nvidia's website for newer ones or risk trying the 12.04 package (I know it's anti-recommended, but I've done it before)
[14:11] <john_doe_jr> I'm running through a script on a server but the script failsвҖҰ.it writes all kinds of info to the info to the terminal & I'd like to know what but I can't scroll up to see..any ideas how I can solve this problem?
[14:11] <yossarianuk> one of ubuntu's worst features is not having nvidia as a rolling release package
[14:11] <Mrokii> sporkboy: I already tried 310.x, that's the latest from x-swat, which I guess is kind of similar to xedgers.
[14:11] <yossarianuk> it should be - if you buy a card in 1 year it won;t be supported by the driver in 12.04 (supported for 5 yrs)
[14:11] <yossarianuk> thats silly
[14:12] <DrPoO> Hi all, I started my upgrade from 12.04 LTS (im using unity as a desktop) to 12.10 this morning, and half way through the  upgrade the window decorations dissapeared and my alt+tab combo does not work so I have no idea if the upgrade is done.... what do I do?! please help
[14:12] <yossarianuk> and all the times there are bugfixes - i.e by sticking with the default nvidia driver you getting less features and less stability - all in the name of 'stabilty'
[14:13] <DrPoO> Using alt+ctrl+f1 I can reach a working terminal
[14:13] <Simon1245> Could someone please tell me how I can make so at the grub loading part that Windows starts up at the start of it and not Linux?
[14:13] <sporkboy> DrPoO, I'd go to a terminal and keep an eye on dmesg. might give you some insight.
[14:14] <llutz> Simon1245: i told you
[14:15] <DrPoO> sporkboy, any ideas of what to look for?
[14:15] <DrPoO> sporkboy, what is the process called (the upgrading program)
[14:15] <usr13_> DrPoO: ps aux |grep apt
[14:15] <Simon1245> llutz, That doesn't work
[14:15] <Simon1245> llutz, I mean there's no gui thing like where you can change it
[14:16] <llutz> Simon1245: sure it works, why do you want a gui for a one-line change?
[14:16] <Xiol> DrPoO: you could start 'top' and take a look to see what processes are running. if all it idle then it should be complete (should be!)
[14:16] <Simon1245> llutz, It's easier and less chance to mess it up totaly, I guess.
[14:16] <usr13_> DrPoO: or htop
[14:16] <gaetano_> #ubuntustudio
[14:17] <DrPoO> usr13_, when running ps -e |grep apt I only see aptd... but I think that this program is always running
[14:17] <usr13_> DrPoO: How did you run the upgrade?  From a terminal?
[14:17] <usr13_> DrPoO: htop
[14:17] <DrPoO> Xiol, running top shows me dpkg working hard still....
[14:17] <Simon1245> llutz, Could you tell me how I change it with this the terminal?
[14:17] <llutz> Simon1245: GUI = more code = more chance for issues   but do whatever you like. i told you how to get it working, just copy/paste it into terminal
[14:18] <DrPoO> usr13_, i ran the upgrade using the gui
[14:18] <Zuhaitz> is posible to do an upgrade?
[14:18] <Zuhaitz> downgrade
[14:18] <usr13_> DrPoO: Ok, it's still working on the upgrade process.  How long has it been?
[14:18] <Simon1245> Oh
[14:18] <sary> Salutaion!
[14:18] <Simon1245> After that I don't have to do anything and it'll load Windows as default?
[14:18] <llutz> Simon1245: correct
[14:18] <usr13_> Zuhaitz: Downgrade = re-install
[14:19] <DrPoO> usr13_, I finished downloading everything 15/20 mins ago, it was on the installing step when the problem arose
[14:19] <Simon1245> llutz, Oh alright thanks! :)
[14:19] <usr13_> DrPoO: Ok, give it some time.
[14:19] <Zuhaitz> usr13, :(
[14:19]  * Zuhaitz whyyyy
[14:19] <Zuhaitz> xD
[14:19] <DrPoO> usr13_, i figured .... so wait for dpkg to finish???
[14:20] <sary> My friend is trying to install ubuntu side by side with Windows XP , after the installation is done , He got an error: system error rescue http://paste.ubuntu.com/1307036/ .. what should i tell him o try next .
[14:20] <DrPoO> usr13_, I also see a process named "quantal"
[14:21] <usr13_> Zuhaitz: If you have /home/ on separate partition you can do fresh install with different version, tell it not to format /home's partition, use same user name, and it will be the same as if you did an upgrade.
[14:21] <sary> he was installing ubuntu 12.10 , now will try with ubuntu 12.04 , have check the iso with MD5sum . burned the the new iso to a USB media .
[14:22] <gggg> d
[14:23] <simplew> llutz: thanks
[14:23] <usr13_> Quantal is code name for 10.10
[14:23] <jorgp> is there a way to get the mx5500 keyboard and mouse w/ bluethooth dongal working with livecd 12.10?
[14:23] <Fernest> I've got a Galaxy S2, a Ubuntu 12.04 Desktop and two Ubuntu 12.04 Laptops. I wish to create some sort of cool, linux based home-network. (One (old) laptop is used as a media center, the desktop is for work/games and the second laptop is for mobile stuff). Is there a way to use the media-laptop as some sort of server, while the Smartphone is able to control the devices? (Contacts and stuff should be synced between all machines).
[14:23] <Fernest> Does one have an idea/link/tutorial/keyword how to start such a network?
[14:23] <usr13_> *12.10
[14:24] <sary> HE got this error as well , The boot files of [Ubuntu 12.10] are far from the start of the disk. Your BIOS may not detect them.
[14:24] <DrPoO> usr13_, 12.10 is quantal quetzal i thought
[14:24] <usr13_> Fernest: You use gmail, right?
[14:24] <Fernest> (with control I mean stuff like: "Play next song on the media-laptop or launch some script on the work-station (like auto-upload or compile scripts)
[14:24] <Fernest> yeah
[14:25] <usr13_> Fernest: Contacts are already shared
[14:25] <Fernest> yes, but I wish to have more control
[14:25] <usr13_> Fernest: You add someones phone number from the PC and its' there on the phone
[14:26] <usr13_> Fernest: I use file-expert on the phone to transfer files <>
[14:26] <Fernest> I want more control. Maybe using SSH to control the machines with the Android. But maybe there are some graphical Linux solutiosn?
[14:26] <sary> Fernest: so , you're trying to setup a home Network share !
[14:26] <Fernest> more than sharing
[14:26] <LucidGuy> Can anyone explain to me my I can't sync my time with ntp.ubuntu.com   http://paste.ubuntu.com/1307278/    Thats the output from ntpdate -q
[14:26] <Fernest> something like Ubuntu_for_androids (which has yet to come).
[14:27] <Fernest> maybe SSH, maybe ftp, etc. etc.
[14:27] <sary> Will , get the sharing setup first , then see what's your options from there .
[14:27] <Fernest> so there is no all-in-one solution?
[14:27] <usr13_> LucidGuy: "no server suitable for synchronization found"
[14:28] <usr13_> LucidGuy: Try a different server
[14:28] <TheLordOfTime> LucidGuy, you may want to actually define a time server
[14:28] <TheLordOfTime> LucidGuy, like... ntpdate -q ntp.ubuntu.com
[14:28] <TheLordOfTime> i've had issues with it nor reading from its configs before
[14:28] <LucidGuy> TheLordOfTime, that output was from ntpdate -d ntp.ubuntu.com
[14:29] <Fernest> do you think it could be done with Ubuntu-Cloud (using all the machines as cloud devices)? Or is it not worth the trouble?
[14:30] <usr13_> LucidGuy: Try a different server
[14:30] <usr13_> LucidGuy: ntpdate pool.ntp.org
[14:30] <Michiellllaptop> since i updated to 12.04 i keep getting Internal Error messages about 'unity-music-daemon' package: unity-lens-music
[14:31] <Michiellllaptop> anyone know about this?
[14:31] <Bustacap> Was empathy always the chat client preinstalled? I feel like it is working different right now than what I'm used to?
[14:31] <usr13_> LucidGuy: Or just drop the -d
[14:32] <sary> Fernest: Do you wanna Setup Up something like AndroMouse For Android In Ubuntu !
[14:32] <usr13_> LucidGuy: Actually it shouldn't matter....
[14:32] <LucidGuy> usr13_ the -d is just for debug вҖҰ dropping it makes no difference.
[14:32] <LucidGuy> usr13_, and still unable to sync with the server you specified.
[14:32] <usr13_> LucidGuy: Must be a network issue
[14:33] <usr13_> LucidGuy: Looks like port 123  ?
[14:35] <LucidGuy> usr13_, You think my port 123 is blocked going out?
[14:35] <ironhalik> Hello - anyone here using Galaxy Nexus with Ubuntu and transfers files with MTP?
[14:36] <TheLordOfTime> LucidGuy, did you try a different NTP server?
[14:36] <TheLordOfTime> LucidGuy, just in case.
[14:36] <usr13_> LucidGuy: I don't know, but tested from mine and works ok.  That's all I can think of is that you have a network issue.
[14:36] <LucidGuy> TheLordOfTime, tried a few
[14:36] <usr13_> TheLordOfTime: Yes, he tried a different server
[14:36] <TheLordOfTime> LucidGuy, then it is likely a networking issue, either the ISP's blocking traffic or otherwise
[14:36] <TheLordOfTime> usr13_, he just said that dude :/.
[14:37] <LucidGuy> Odd, doesn't matter what server I try I get ..  stratum 0, offset 0.000000, delay 0.00000   .. you would think some values would be in there
[14:37] <usr13_> LucidGuy: ping -c3 ntp.ubuntu.com
[14:38] <LucidGuy> usr13_, responds fine
[14:39] <usr13_> LucidGuy: sudo iptables -L
[14:39] <usr13_> LucidGuy: sudo iptables -L |pastebinit
[14:40] <LucidGuy> Not iptables. . getting similar results from another host..
[14:41] <chris_123> hi, i have an encrypted linux root partition on my current ssd and want to move it to a bigger one. clonezilla failed. how can i get this done?
[14:41] <compdoc> thats why I dont mess with encryption
[14:41] <compdoc> so many issues
[14:42] <sary> any hint on what maybe wrong here! http://paste.ubuntu.com/1307036/
[14:42] <robotfuel> chris_123: you could use dd to copy the encrypted partion to another drive, your root partition would be the same size.
[14:42] <chris_123> compdoc, thanks for your empathy. any word of advice?
[14:43] <chris_123> robotfuel, and is there away to enlarge  it once it is on the bigger disk?
[14:43] <usr13_> LucidGuy: Maybe your router has a time server running?
[14:44] <usr13_> LucidGuy: ... and you can use it?
[14:45] <LucidGuy> I'm at work ..
[14:46] <robotfuel> chris_123: usually there is a way to do that, but it's different for every setup. Google should help you find out how.
[14:47] <chris_123> would it be a good idea, to create a new luks partition on the target disk and copy everything there with rsync -a in the new place and just reinstall grub from a changeroot? do you see any problem with this approach or advice otherwise?
[14:48] <LucidGuy> How else can I test port issues .. telnet to port 123?
[14:49] <robotfuel> chris_123: that would work.  it should be faster than resizing the partition.
[14:50] <chris_123> ok, i'll try that
[14:51] <biri> hi
[14:51] <Bustacap> Anyone know why when my sidebar is on auto-hide, moving my mouse to the left doesn't bring up the bar -_-
[14:51] <Taint> is there somewhere I can go to read/download the very basics of starting with ubuntu?
[14:51] <bazhang> !manual | Taint
[14:51] <bazhang> !rute | Taint
[14:52] <Taint> I mean even before that... like getting all drivers and stuff.... even the screen is messed up
[14:52] <biri> hrlp
[14:52] <biri> list
[14:52] <usr13_> sary: What is /dev/sda5  for?
[14:52] <bazhang> Taint, check the ubuntu manual to start
[14:52] <Taint> k thanks bazhang
[14:54] <Fernest> which program do you use to transfer files between Android + Ubuntu?
[14:54] <magic_al> i ve just installed ubuntu 12.10 on a brand new lenovo thinkpad. my card reader dosnt work out. what can i do?
[14:55] <MonkeyDust> Fernest  there's something new called AirDroid
[14:55] <crem> Does it work in? Just out of curiosity.
[14:55] <sary> usr13_: i don't know , it's from a friend laptop! what you think it could be there for? I mean. is it removeable !
[14:55] <Fernest> MonkeyDust: Thanks!
[14:55] <plat> Hi,is there any xubuntu channel?
[14:55] <bazhang> plat, #xubuntu
[14:55] <usr13_> sary: It says: "Boot successfully repaired.
[14:56] <usr13_> sary: So.....?
[14:56] <sary> usr13_: he didn't mentioned it for me while setting up his partition table!
[14:56] <usr13_> sary: Is it booting ok?
[14:56] <sary> usr13_: Right , but didn't boot after!
[14:57] <usr13_> sary: What error does it give?
[14:57] <shaneo> hi guys im running 12.10 and use pidgin as a messenger but it will not add itself to the messaging menu...how can i fix this?
[14:58] <sary> usr13_: after the installation , it gave this error as first " error system error grub rescue " on the next one he got "The boot files of [Ubuntu 12.10] are far from the start of the disk. Your BIOS may not detect them."
[14:59] <sary> usr13_: i meant , on the first boot .
[15:00] <fluitfries> anyone using Thunderbird for the chat features?  i'm skeptical
[15:00] <sary> usr13_: but really good noticing on your part , i may need to check more abou his /dev/sda5 partition.
[15:01] <usr13_> sary: So now it gives error:  "The boot files of [Ubuntu12.10] are far from the start of the disk."?
[15:02] <sary> usr13_: that's what he said , yes. i think he said this after looking at the boot-repair output! am not quit sure.
[15:02] <usr13_> sary: sda5 is probably not relevant to why it won't boot, just wondering why he created it, because looks like he created it at the same time as he did the Ubuntu install and I'm not sure why he'd do it.
[15:04] <greengeek_> hallo?
[15:04] <physically_fit> what's the name of this torrent/magnet client? it was very good but i forgot its name. Something like "Xtivi", its icon it's green with blue and red i think.
[15:04] <physically_fit> Xviti?
[15:04] <physically_fit> someone here recommended it to me
[15:05] <lesshaste> how do you save the printing options in acroread?  They revert to the default every time I restart it.
[15:05] <sary> he is off line at the moment , switching back and forth between his working pc and the broken laptop with the Ethernet cables , because he doesn't have a Wi-Fi Network.
[15:05] <usr13_> sary: Does it boot MS Windows?
[15:05] <greengeek_> do you speak hungary?
[15:05] <DJones> !hu | greengeek_
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[15:06] <sary> usr13_: no it doesn't , he mentioned later on that got an error message and was unable to boot to his Windows Xp , due to some Avg2013 error somehing to do with that.
[15:07] <guang_> e
[15:07] <usr13_> sary: DOes it boot Ubuntu?
[15:07] <sary> usr13_: No, none of the OS's.
[15:08] <usr13_> sary: Never did?
[15:09] <sary> usr13_: not once.
[15:09] <toscho> hi, I have a problem with my samsung scx-4728fd mfp. when trying to detect it as a scanner either xsane or samsung unified driver configurator crash with memory error
[15:10] <usr13_> sary: All I know is that it says, "The boot files of [Ubuntu 12.10] are far from the start of the disk. Your BIOS may not detect them. You may want to retry after creating a /boot partition (EXT4, >200MB, start of the disk). This can be performed via tools such as gParted. Then select this partition via the [Separate /boot partition:] option of [Boot Repair]. (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootPartition)"
[15:10] <bazhang> toscho, what about simplescan
[15:10] <blackness> welp, i found a issue with 12.10. its leaking for random lengths at random times.
[15:10] <samir82show> hello
[15:10] <samir82show> I need an urgent help please
[15:11] <gordonjcp> !help | samir82show
[15:11] <eankele> physicaaly_fit - see if 'apt-cache search torrent' jogs your memory
[15:11] <gaetano_> #ubuntustudio
[15:11] <researcher123> How to remove s7.addthis.com?  It takes infinite to open some pages
[15:11] <gordonjcp> researcher123: adblock
[15:11] <usr13_> sary: I don't know what he has done but sounds like he somehow changed partition size without moving the data to the beginning of the partition. (Just going from what that error message says.)
[15:12] <sary> usr13_: this time , i suggested to him to burn a new iso of 12.04 to his usb media using Unetbootin , he was on his way to boot the live-cd from his laptop on the other room , since then he went off-line.
[15:12] <blackness> researcher123, set '0.0.0.0 s7.addthis.com' to /etc/hosts and it'll cancel out ;)
[15:12] <researcher123> gordonjcp: where do I type this command?
[15:12] <gordonjcp> researcher123: it's a firefox addon
[15:12] <Lorra> researcher123, the configuration page of my router allows to set some domain names you want to aoid to contact
[15:12] <Lorra> researcher123, yeah, use that add-on
[15:12] <Lorra> researcher123, it works great
[15:12] <usr13_> sary: I too, am a LTS fan.
[15:13] <sary> usr13_: Yeah , looks like it!
[15:13] <samir82show> okk, I need to write/modify a usb device driver for usb device which is I don't  know according to what I have to modify the source code
[15:13] <sary> usr13_: Yeah , tell me about it .. :-)
[15:13] <blackness> usb-creator-gtk/kde would be better if he has access to a working machine
[15:14] <usr13_> sary: When asked what kind of computer I like best, I reply, "One that works."  OS's are same.
[15:14] <sary> usr13_: he is actually smart , he startd to aske about the differences between both versions , and so answered and explained the meaning of LTS as well.
[15:15] <sary> usr13_: :-)
[15:18] <sary> usr13_: i fond it funny when people get's all hyped up about the none-LTS new release , then the next 3-4 weeks they start complaining about some " edgy stuff " Thaha :;-D Like Really kids!
[15:18] <usr13_> sary: See my PM
[15:18] <toscho> bazhang: it's the same with simple-scan
[15:19] <martino1> Hi. I'm using Lubuntu , and in lxpanel I installed the "indicator-messages" to have messaging controls always in the panel..... BUT it seems not to work with pidgin .. icons remains inactive (grey)
[15:19] <samir82show> anybody knows about usb device driver
[15:19] <samir82show> ?
[15:19] <martino1> What can I do?
[15:19] <bazhang> samir82show, how is this ubuntu support related
[15:20] <samir82show> what kind of supports you mean?
[15:20] <graciano> hi
[15:20] <graciano> im from brazil
[15:20] <bazhang> samir82show, ubuntu support. how is your device driver question related to Ubuntu support
[15:20] <samir82show> I suppose support means fixing systems issues
[15:20] <bazhang> !br | graciano
[15:20] <fluitfries> samir82show, just ask your question, state your problem first.
[15:21] <bazhang> samir82show, that sounds like hardware
[15:21] <samir82show> its programming more
[15:22] <bazhang> try ##programming samir82show
[15:22] <samir82show> coding a module in c
[15:22] <samir82show> but its linux programming
[15:22] <martino1> Hi. I'm using Lubuntu ... I installed the "indicator-messages" and "indicator-messages-gtk2" to have messaging controls always in view on the panel..... BUT it seems not to work with pidgin .. the icon remains inactive (grey)
[15:22] <martino1> What can I do??? :(
[15:22] <bazhang> samir82show, and this is Ubuntu OS support. thats just generic coding
[15:23] <samir82show> then where I have to go?
[15:23] <bazhang> ##programming
[15:23] <fluitfries> martino1, have you checked that the software is compatible with lxpanel?
[15:23] <samir82show> for linux kernel and device drivers
[15:23] <bazhang> samir82show, I just told you
[15:23] <samir82show> thanks
[15:24] <martino1> fluitfries: of course, lxpanel has its "indicator-applet" which  *IS* made exclusively for it
[15:24] <mamad> jjkl
[15:24] <fluitfries> martino1, i also run lubuntu, but i've not really done anything to lxpanel.  sorry.
[15:24] <martino1> I think the problem is pidgin mis-integration .... this problem was also in some version of gnome2
[15:25] <fluitfries> martino1, ah, so maybe the issue is already a reported bug?
[15:25] <martino1> but ... idk
[15:26] <shaneo> can someone assist me with pidgin not showing up in messaging menu please
[15:27] <shaneo> 12.10
[15:27] <martino1> shaneo: you too
[15:27] <martino1> :(
[15:27] <shaneo> yeah martino1 it's annoying
[15:27] <martino1> I'm with lubuntu and have the same problem
[15:27] <martino1> yes it is
[15:28] <shaneo> i was thinking maybe editing indicator menus in dconf might do it but idk
[15:28] <fluitfries> you guys are trying to add more indicators than the default pidgin one?
[15:28] <martino1> idk too
[15:28] <martino1> fluitfries: it's not about pidgin's tray icon
[15:28] <fluitfries> ah k
[15:28] <martino1> it's the general messaging indicator
[15:29] <shaneo> no fluitfries *messaging menu indicator
[15:29] <fluitfries> i can try it on my system right now if you tell me how, but it sounds broken.
[15:29] <fluitfries> lubuntu 12 here
[15:29] <martino1> me too
[15:29] <toscho> hi, I have a problem with my samsung scx-4728fd mfp. when trying to detect it as a scanner either xsane, simple-scan or samsung unified driver configurator crash with memory error
[15:29] <shaneo> sudo apt-get install pidgin
[15:29] <martino1> fluitfries: if you want to check
[15:29] <martino1> sudo apt-get install indicator-message*
[15:29] <fluitfries> i've got pidgin set up already
[15:29] <fluitfries> kk
[15:29] <martino1> then add "indicator applet" to lxpanel and enable messaging
[15:30] <shaneo> hmm martino1 never thought about that
[15:30] <shaneo> you ran that and it still doesn't work?
[15:32] <martino1> shaneo: it is loaded
[15:32] <martino1> but not in communication with pidgin
[15:32] <fluitfries> ok, i checked off the messaging box, and it just says "no indicators"
[15:32] <shaneo> hmm
[15:32] <shaneo> testing something now ill let you know if it works martino1
[15:33] <martino1> fluitfries: you have to install the package I told  you before
[15:33] <fluitfries> martino1, yea, i did.
[15:33] <shaneo> martino1, got it
[15:33] <martino1> well then you have to restart lightdm fluitfries to apply the modifies
[15:34] <martino1> ohhh no, install this too ----> sudo apt-get install lxpanel-indicator-applet-plugin
[15:34] <shaneo> :) but doesnt close to indicator but it's there
[15:34] <shaneo> *close to messaging menu
[15:34] <fluitfries> martino1, installed.  now what, log out and back in?
[15:35] <martino1> fluitfries: ye .. sudo /etc/init.d/lightdm restart
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> martino1: do other apps have issues with the indicator?
[15:36] <martino1> hmmm I try now
[15:36] <martino1> which apps should be compatible?
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> martino1: that will either isolate the issue to the indicator, or pidgin
[15:37] <Chamunks> would it be a bad thing to run sudo apt-get purge apport?
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> martino1: transmission uses that
[15:38] <martino1> ActionParsnip: hmm I don't think so .. It would isolate the issue to the indicator's  pidgin module , or pidgin
[15:38] <martino1> ;)
[15:38] <lmat> Is there a command that I can use to monitor the file system?
[15:38] <martino1> I try
[15:38] <lmat> I see inotify, but it's an API. I'd rather not write a program if possible.
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> martino1: it still shifts the issue from the indicator, is my point
[15:38] <Scunizi> after doing a <xsetwacom set "Wacom bla bla" Touch on>  I no longer have clicking ability with my mouse or tablet pen.. so I did the same thing but said "off" at the end.  That didn't work. How do I fix my mouse to allow me to click?
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> lmat: could use conky
[15:39] <fluitfries> martino1, lol, that halted my session.  but i rebooted and i see the menu now.
[15:39] <martino1> nope, it could still be indicator's issue
[15:39] <lmat> ActionParsnip: So ubuntu doesn't come with anything like this?
[15:39] <martino1> fluitfries: how do you see it?
[15:39] <fluitfries> a small envelope, if i click it i get status options n stuff
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> lmat: there is disk manager or something like that, just because its not default doesn't mean anything
[15:39] <ardchoille> lmat: gkrellm is another monitoring app, and it has a skinnable ui
[15:39] <martino1> fluitfries: can you switch from "available to afk  for example?
[15:40] <lmat> ardchoille: Thanks.
[15:40] <fluitfries> martino1, however it is not functioning.  it will launch pidgin but not change status
[15:40] <ardchoille> yw
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> lmat: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Baobab
[15:40] <martino1> fluitfries: it is a bug so
[15:40] <martino1> fluitfries: you wanna try a possible solution?
[15:40] <martino1> It's about installing newest p
[15:40] <martino1> *pidgin
[15:40] <martino1> from pidgin's repos
[15:41] <FireAndIce> Hi everyone!!
[15:41] <jitaochu> hello
[15:41] <lmat> ActionParsnip: Thanks.
[15:41] <FireAndIce> How do I resize columns using keyboard shortcuts in ubuntu?
[15:41] <lmat> I'm looking for a tool that monitors a particular file and takes some action when the file is deleted.
[15:41] <FireAndIce> Like the one on this link.. http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/28734/how-to-resize-all-window-columns-with-a-single-keystroke/
[15:41] <fluitfries> martino1, sure.
[15:41] <martino1> :)
[15:41] <Scunizi> any wacom users out there?  I just foobar'd my ability to click with my mouse by using xsetwacom Touch on then off.. any solutions?
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> lmat: conky will update more regularly and give a display of disk usage
[15:42] <martino1> fluitfries: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:pidgin-developers/ppa && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pidgin
[15:43] <[TiZ]> How do you do a minimal install of 12.10? The alternate CD no longer exists, and there isn't a minimal install mode on the desktop CD.
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> !mini | [TiZ]
[15:43] <lmat> [TiZ]: install arch linux and add what you want? ;)
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> [TiZ]: you use the mini ISO to do a mini install, not the alternate
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> [TiZ]: the ubuntu community is larger than the arch one :)
[15:43] <[TiZ]> lmat: I actually migrated FROM Arch because stuff breaks so much.
[15:44] <llutz> lmat: look ar "inotify"
[15:44] <llutz> at*
[15:44] <ardchoille> Wowsers, it's only 28mb
[15:44] <[TiZ]> I did Ubuntu to Arch, had a buncha fun, stuff started breaking, came back to Ubuntu.
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> 34mb for an installer is sweeeeet
[15:44] <Bombo> how can i tell the NetworkManager not to disable the eth0 device on sleep mode? (for wakeonlan)
[15:44] <[TiZ]> ActionParsnip: Thank you!
[15:44] <fluitfries> martino1, ok, done
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> [TiZ]: remember to MD5 test ;)
[15:44] <lmat> llutz: Thanks. That being an API isn't exactly what I'm looking for. I was hoping to not have to write a program.
[15:45] <Jimster480-L> hwos life for everyone here
[15:45] <Jimster480-L> hows*
[15:45] <ardchoille> ActionParsnip: can you imagine how fast the md5sum command will be on a mini installer? lol
[15:45] <martino1> fluitfries: can you please paste the output? or just check your own whether pidgin has been updated from new repos or not
[15:45] <[TiZ]> It took like a second, lol. Download's all good.
[15:45] <paolooo> hi @all, is there any video to ipad3 converter in ubuntu?
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> ardchoille: hehe, and bit errors affect a larger percent too
[15:45] <fluitfries> martino1, version 2.10.6 ??
[15:46] <llutz> lmat: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/inotify
[15:46] <martino1> fluitfries: mine is 2.10.3
[15:46] <martino1> you seem to have updated
[15:46] <fluitfries> martino1, yes
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> paolooo: what video types do you have to convert?
[15:46] <fluitfries> martino1, let me reboot one more time.
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> paolooo: and what files will your ipad thing play?
[15:46] <martino1> ok
[15:47] <lmat> llutz: First, I'll stop over at http://fluenz.com/languages/german/
[15:47] <paolooo> ActionParsnip: *.mp4
[15:47] <paolooo> ActionParsnip: .mpeg4
[15:47] <paolooo> ActionParsnip: iPad plays .mpeg4
[15:47] <deadmund> the* ipad
[15:48] <bazhang> paolooo, use handbrake
[15:48] <bazhang> !handbrake | paolooo
[15:48] <paolooo> bazhang: thanks yeah currently installing it
[15:48] <paolooo> ubottu: thx
[15:49] <bazhang> paolooo, jstebbins PPA is the recommended one for that
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> paolooo: ffmpeg -i inputfilename.mp4 -o outputfilename.mpeg4
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> paolooo: maybe
[15:49] <paolooo> ActionParsnip: ok thanks :)
[15:50] <fluitfries> martino1, it's still broken.  :(
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> paolooo: http://www.ehow.com/how_5127509_convert-flv-mpeg-ubuntu.html
[15:50] <paolooo> ActionParsnip: I saw some codec formats here: https://develop.participatoryculture.org/index.php/ConversionMatrix
[15:50] <toscho> hi, I have a problem with my samsung scx-4728fd mfp. when trying to detect it as a scanner either xsane or samsung unified driver configurator crash with memory error
[15:50] <lmat> [TiZ]: heh...arch is a bit rocky
[15:50] <martino1> ActionParsnip: have you read?
[15:50] <lmat> [TiZ]: I used it for a while earlier, then changed jobs (and computers). So when I went to set up the new computer, I went to ubuntu.
[15:50] <martino1> it's not pidgin's fault
[15:51] <martino1> it's indicator's pidgin-integration source part
[15:51] <lmat> [TiZ]: Although, i've    service lightdm stop   and disabled it, and I just sit on tty1 the whole time, so it's really not much different.
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> martino1: read what?
[15:51] <fluitfries> martino1, ok, i'm gonna uninstall the indicator stuff now. :)
[15:51] <martino1> ActionParsnip: we installed the new version from pidgin's repos
[15:51] <lmat> [TiZ]: The configuration is way more complex (because Arch's was only what I need), and there are a good deal more tools just sitting around...and apt-get...
[15:51] <martino1> nothing changed
[15:51] <roylaprattep> someone know about mod_auth_mysql ?
[15:51] <pestilence> i used to have keyboard shortcuts that made a window take up half the screen on the left, half the screen on the right, and maximize/unmaximize.  Any ideas on how to get that back?
[15:52] <martino1> fluitfries: thank you veeery much
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> martino1: ok then report the bug is affecting Precise too
[15:52] <roylaprattep> do I need it with phpmyadmin ?
[15:52] <fluitfries> martino1, glad to help
[15:52] <lmat> ActionParsnip: https://github.com/rvoicilas/inotify-tools/wiki
[15:52] <martino1> ufff what a shame
[15:52] <[TiZ]> lmat: I had fun configuring Arch. It's just that ubdates would break stuff, and you'd have to bend over backwards to get certain packages to work.
[15:52] <lmat> ActionParsnip: If anyone asks this question again, I suspect this is the right place to dg.
[15:52] <lmat> s/dg/go/
[15:52] <lmat> [TiZ]: yup.
[15:52] <[TiZ]> lmat: For example, getting networkmanager to play well with openconnect? Good luck. That's actually the straw that broke my back; I needed that to work for my job.
[15:53] <[TiZ]> lmat: So I switched to a minimal ubuntu install that I built up Arch-style. I drop in a package, and it just works.
[15:53] <lmat> [TiZ]: ahh, yup. I only IRC, and try out this and that. It's a virtual machine, so I didn't care if it breaks.
[15:53] <martino1> I don't even know how to report a bug in the right way
[15:53] <lmat> [TiZ]: I should have gone minimal...I think I'll make a new machine!
[15:53] <ardchoille> !bugs
[15:53] <ardchoille> martino1: ^^
[15:53] <[TiZ]> lmat: minimal is great. I've done it on my laptop and my work box. built up an Xfce just the way I want.
[15:53] <martino1> I don't even have a launchpad accout
[15:53] <lmat> "The programs are written in C and have no dependencies other than a Linux kernel supporting inotify." That's what I like to hear!
[15:54] <lmat> [TiZ]: You dual boot?
[15:54] <ardchoille> martino1: you should make a launchpad account, very handy
[15:54] <fluitfries> martino1, when you report the bug, let me know the link by PM and i will click the +1 button on it, too.
[15:54] <fluitfries> bbl
[15:55] <[TiZ]> lmat: Nope. Only Linux.
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> [TiZ]: could have used wicd
[15:55] <lmat> [TiZ]: Must be nice!
[15:55] <[TiZ]> lmat: However, I do have a windows VM that I keep running on one of my monitors at all times.
[15:55] <lmat> [TiZ]: I'm trying to get there...we use Lync, can that be done on Linux?
[15:55] <nicofs> I can't move my mouse over to my second display after upgrading to 12.10... how can I get that working again? (nVidia, seperate x screen)
[15:56] <lmat> [TiZ]: ah.
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> [TiZ]: network manager isn't the only network manager app available you know......
[15:56] <lmat> "After this operation, 201 kB of additional disk space will be used." YES! I love this package!
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> lmat: wooo
[15:56] <lmat> ActionParsnip: :0
[15:56] <lmat> doh   ActionParsnip: :)
[15:56] <[TiZ]> ActionParsnip: I'm aware of that, and I used to use wicd. But since when did wicd do more than just connect to a network?
[15:56] <pestilence> nicofs: remind me why you need separate x servers again?
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> lmat: mind you I like that stuff tbh
[15:57] <[TiZ]> lmat: Lync? I'm not sure what that is.
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> [TiZ]: putting in tonnes of effort in to get network manager working when wicd is available is a little silly imo
[15:57] <[TiZ]> ActionParsnip: NetworkManager works perfectly fine. No effort at all.
[15:58] <lmat> [TiZ]: It's a Microsoft telephone (PBX replacement) solution.
[15:58] <lmat> [TiZ]: It's integrated with Outlook...
[15:58] <nicofs> pestilence, because of running applications in full-screen-mode simultaneously. and because i want it that way (that alone should be enough).
[15:58] <lmat> [TiZ]: Does a Windows VM cost money?
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> [TiZ]: thought you said you had some issue getting it working though.
[15:58] <[TiZ]> ActionParsnip: The problem is adding OpenConnect VPN onto it. Doesn't work at all on Arch. Works out of the box on Ubuntu.
[15:58] <lmat> [TiZ]: (license?)
[15:58] <pestilence> nicofs: ah, ok.
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> [TiZ]: ah, not used VPN, never had a need for it
[15:58] <D[4]ni> how can i remove webclips? D:
[15:58] <pestilence> nicofs: did you try having nvidia-settings write a new xorg.conf?
[15:59] <[TiZ]> lmat: I just use VirtualBox to run it; the school I work for has an enterprise license for it.
[15:59] <lmat> [TiZ]: license for what, Windows?
[15:59] <nicofs> pestilence, several times...
[15:59] <lmat> [TiZ]: So you install like you would any other machine? (and it requires a license)
[15:59] <riqdiiz> hello how do i get grub appear after installing multiple os's?
[15:59] <Necrosporus> riqdiiz, have you installed it?
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> riqdiiz: if you hold SHIFT at boot, does it show?
[16:00] <nicofs> pestilence, the screen is on - it looks the way it should, all is there and properly set up - i just can't get any input device to focus it...
[16:00] <Necrosporus> Edit /etc/default/grub and modify delay variable
[16:00] <pestilence> nicofs: that is really weird.  you said the mouse moves periodically instead of moving to the second monitor?
[16:00] <riqdiiz> i installed it  as i was installing  DSL ..
[16:01] <D[4]ni> i accidentally added a web clip for facebook. how do i remove it again?
[16:02] <nicofs> pestilence, yes, so to speak. i can't move it over the left edge (which is ok. nothing there) and when i move it over the right, it reappears left but should move over to the next screen...
[16:02] <riqdiiz> it looks like  windows bootloader takes over as it starts to boot..:-)
[16:02] <hc96> hi guys! I have a problem with virtualbox and 2 virtual network cards. I run ubuntu server 12.04. I can ping from the host to the guest via 192.168.56.{1,200}, the guest can ping to the ip of google.com, but DNS does not work. What should I do? I think it has to do sth. with /etc/resolv.conf
[16:02] <pestilence> hc96: what is the guest OS?
[16:03] <hc96> pestilence: its ubuntu server 12.04, the host is xubuntu 12.10
[16:03] <kenneth__> I've been looking everywhere
[16:03] <pestilence> hc96: what is the contents of resolv.conf
[16:03] <kenneth__> anyone know where to find crowbar guys
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> riqdiiz: did you install Ubuntu using Wubi?
[16:04] <hc96> pestilence: nameserver 10.0.2.2 \n search fritz.box
[16:04] <hc96> pestilence: and it states the contents will be overwritten by resolvconf(8)
[16:05] <pestilence> hc96: hrmm. where'd it get that.  ubuntu desktop uses dnsmasq...does ubuntu server not do that?
[16:05] <riqdiiz> I installed it as stand alone.
[16:05] <hc96> pestilence: 10.0.2.2 is the host IP of my VirtualBox network
[16:05] <pestilence> hc96: is it running a dns server?
[16:05] <riqdiiz> no through the windows gui.
[16:06]  * pestilence looks for the atm machine
[16:06] <[TiZ]> lmat: Yeah. Stick a CD into the host computer, the virtual machine will install Windows from it.
[16:07] <lmat> [TiZ]: ok
[16:07] <riqdiiz> :'(what am I gonna do?
[16:07] <bazhang> riqdiiz, a wubi install?
[16:08] <hc96> pestilence: actually it should since other guests OS have DNS
[16:10] <martino1> I can't believe this
[16:10] <pestilence> hc96: dunno.  no guarantee that the other OS's are using the host for DNS.
[16:11] <pestilence> hc96: for example, I could install a nameserver inside an ubuntu guest and have it provide its own DNS.
[16:11] <martino1> fluitfries, shaneo: I solved it
[16:11] <Guillem_> Can i find the cpu freq at /proc? I think I saw it once and I cannot find it anymore...
[16:11] <pestilence> hc96: can you ping 10.0.2.2 from inside the guest?
[16:11] <hc96> pestilence: yes I can
[16:11] <pestilence> Guillem_: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[16:12] <llutz> Guillem_: grep MHz /proc/cpuinfo
[16:12] <Bustacap> How do I properly change a cusor theme so it changes all cursors?
[16:12] <beandog> Guillem_: cpufreq-info is gonna give you more details
[16:12] <martino1> I simply installed pidgin-libnotify
[16:12] <riqdiiz> I have Two Os's on my pc ;ubuntu and windows co-existing  and I use grab to boot into both  but I just installed a third  small damn Linux  into the third  partition and everything went like done!But The DSL isnt showing up among the  grub choices ?
[16:12] <pestilence> hc96: how about dig @10.0.2.2 www.google.com
[16:12] <martino1> !info pidgin-libnotify
[16:13] <beandog> Guillem_: apt-get install cpufrequtils; cpufreq-info
[16:13] <martino1> The icon still doesn't change color, but at least works :D
[16:13] <beandog> Guillem_: can change the governer there as well
[16:14] <D[4]ni> in startup programs, i added a script that mounts three partitions (a few months ago)
[16:14] <bazhang> riqdiiz, so update-grub ?
[16:14] <hc96> pestilence: connection timed out, no servers could be reached
[16:14] <D[4]ni> since 12.10 all those partitions open in nautilus on startup. never happened on 12.04
[16:14] <bazhang> !grub2 | riqdiiz have a read
[16:14] <D[4]ni> (how) can i prevent that?
[16:15] <pestilence> hc96: what other guests do you have?  see if that works in any of those.
[16:15] <DJones> t
[16:16] <D[4]ni> btw, mounting via udisks
[16:17] <Guillem_> pestilence, llutz beandog, thanks
[16:17] <JPeterson> why does "sudo service lightdm stop" return "unknown instance"? "sudo service --status-all 2>&1|grep lightdm" return " [ ? ]  lightdm"
[16:18] <Guillem_> beandog, I'm changing the governor with cpufreq-selector and I see that this tool is at another package. I've installed and now I have cpufreq-set; are both equivalent?
[16:18] <beandog> Guillem_: dunno, but most likely.  there's only one governer, so yah, should be fine. :)
[16:18] <hc96> pestilence: I got another linux, there the resol.conf contains nameserver 127.0.0.1 \n search fritz.box
[16:19] <hc96> pestilence: however, dig @127.0.0.1 www.google.com also does not work
[16:20] <riqdiiz> tThanks got it
[16:20] <beandog> hc96: I hope you mean resolv.conf
[16:20] <hc96> beandog: sure...
[16:20] <fluitfries> martino1, ok that's good.  do you think i should downgrade my pidgin back to stable?
[16:20] <beandog> hc96: put nameserver 8.8.8.8 in there and remove the other one
[16:20] <JPeterson> please explain these messages. "sudo service lightdm stop" return "unknown instance"? "sudo service --status-all 2>&1|grep lightdm" return " [ ? ]  lightdm"[ http://i.imgur.com/xHed6.jpg ].
[16:21] <Taint> I'm trying to install my drivers. I tried using the additional drivers software and it says no proprietary drivers are in use
[16:22] <Guillem_> beandog, I'm experiencing overheating problems with my laptop. The thing shuts-off under heavy loading (computation). I miminize this changing the governor to powersafe, thus the CPUs use the minimum MHz possible. Question is if I could change that freq to a higher value but not the higest.
[16:22] <martino1> fluitfries: uhm I wouldn't call it "unstable" it's totally stable :)
[16:23] <beandog> Guillem_: cpufreq-info will tell you what speeds it can run at
[16:23] <martino1> it's just not from ubuntu's repo
[16:23] <beandog> Guillem_: anyway, yah, you can set max clock speeds
[16:23] <Taint> how do I get drivers for my gfx cards and all hardware?
[16:23] <fluitfries> martino1, ok
[16:23] <martino1> fluitfries: anyway, if you want to, you can simply use ppapurge to do the job
[16:23] <JPeterson> is the qusetion "how to close x" hard to answer?
[16:24] <martino1> JPeterson: haha no it is not
[16:24] <hc96> beandog: why does that work? seems more generic and not quite safe, is it?
[16:25] <martino1> you wanna know how or just its difficulty? :)
[16:25] <beandog> hc96: you're just setting the manually.  nothing unsafe about that.
[16:25] <beandog> *them
[16:25] <JPeterson> martin the following question is. why is a non-hard and important question not answered?
[16:25] <D[4]ni> mh. it's starting to happen more often that i can only move my mouse, clicking and trying to use the keyboard does nothing. is there a better way out of this than REISUB?
[16:25] <martino1> JPeterson: uhm I didn't read
[16:25] <martino1> JPeterson: there obviously are many ways
[16:25] <D[4]ni> ctrl+alt+f[1-79 don't work as well
[16:25] <JPeterson> obviously
[16:26] <D[4]ni> ctrl+alt+f[1-7] don't work as well *
[16:26] <martino1> I can tell you a trick to set "ctrl alt backspace" as the "X closer" keybind
[16:26] <ardchoille> wowsers, 79 function keys.
[16:26] <Guillem_> beandog, oh! yeah! man cpufreq-set shows me that. I can say that cpufreq-set is much more complete than cpufrec-selector!
[16:26] <JPeterson> what is drawing x in this picture where "sudo service --status-all 2>&1|grep lightdm" return " [ ? ]  lightdm"[ http://i.imgur.com/xHed6.jpg ]?
[16:26] <martino1> JPeterson: or just kill X process by early findind its pid
[16:27] <beandog> Guillem_: yah, you have lots of options ... pretty nice, really
[16:27] <JPeterson> martin, pgrep "X process" return ""
[16:27] <D[4]ni> once more audio does not work at all
[16:27] <beandog> Guillem_: cpufrequtils *might* come with an init.d script to set them on startup
[16:27] <hc96> beandog: rebooting again sets nameserver 10.0.2.2 in the file along with nameserver 8.8.8.8 (I have added dns-nameserver 8.8.8.8 to /etc/network/interfaces)
[16:27] <hc96> beandog: and now dns again does not work
[16:28] <beandog> hc96: beats me.  no idea what's setting it.
[16:28] <beandog> hc96: it'll always use the first one first, though
[16:28] <martino1> JPeterson: what? lol   I called "X process" but process's name is X
[16:28] <martino1> lol
[16:28] <JPeterson> martin, pgrep "X" return ""
[16:28] <martino1> ps aux|grep X
[16:28] <Zaki-Sama|2> Hi everyone !!
[16:29] <martino1> JPeterson: really?
[16:29] <hc96> beandog: apparently not, since 8.8.8.8 is the first line
[16:30] <martino1> hmm I don't really know how unity's structure is ,, and how unity works
[16:30] <martino1> maybe it is that helly "plymouth"
[16:30] <beandog> hc96: well, whatever.  use that and nameserver 4.4.4.4 and you'll be fine
[16:30] <Zakidine> okay since no one is answering me on the french chan, just ask my question here
[16:30] <Zakidine> if i install the new 12.10 in 11.10's place
[16:31] <Guillem_> beandog,yes, I've seen it. The fan began blowing :P I have a computation ongoing and I had the governer set to powersafe, so the install of the package has changed it to ondemand.... :P
[16:31] <beandog> hc96: or you can use opendns instead of google: 208.67.222.222 and 208.67.220.220
[16:31] <Zakidine> would i get while having the grub message
[16:31] <Zakidine> 12.10 and 11.10
[16:31] <JPeterson> martin, yes but that was because it wasnt running. i guess startx start X and not lightdm
[16:31] <beandog> Guillem_: cpufre-set -g <governer> I think ??
[16:31] <beandog> *cpufreq-set
[16:32] <martino1> JPeterson: sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration <---- follow the procedure to set keyb-layout... and at the end it will ask you "you want ctrl alt backspace" to ...blahblah tell yes
[16:32] <JPeterson> martin, i dont wanna answer any question regarding the keyboard
[16:33] <martino1> lol
[16:33] <martino1> JPeterson:  ps aux|grep -i lightdm
[16:34] <JPeterson> martian: why would that be different from "sudo service --status-all 2>&1|grep lightdm"?
[16:34] <beandog> JPeterson: because service can be wrong
[16:34] <JPeterson> oh
[16:34] <beandog> based on how they check running services, pids
[16:34] <martino1> JPeterson: :)
[16:34] <beandog> Like something could be *running*, but if service didn't start it, it may not know
[16:35] <beandog> or you could have something where a service starts, using service, but service thinks it craps out when really it doesn't
[16:35] <beandog> odd corner cases, and stuff.
[16:35] <martino1> JPeterson: if you don't wanna answer for keyboard (lol) just run this --> setxkbmap -option terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp
[16:35] <padhu> ubuntians, I got error when i login in gui mode, the error log is as http://pastebin.com/MfC8yT4A
[16:35] <beandog> displaying a process list isn't gonna lie though
[16:35] <JPeterson> the correct answer is. startx doesnt start lightdm, it starts X. "kill $(pgrep X)" is therefore recommended way to close x
[16:35] <padhu> please help me to resolve this
[16:35] <beandog> JPeterson: meh.  pkill X
[16:35] <upset> What methods are there for CUSTOM 2-finger touchscreen gestures in Ubuntu?
[16:35] <JPeterson> in my case, because the moronic compiz was using 100% of a core constantly for days
[16:36] <JPeterson> and this is 12.10
[16:36] <beandog> JPeterson: or kill `pidof X`
[16:36]  * beandog likes pkill
[16:37] <martino1> JPeterson: well you said that  pgrep "X" return ""
[16:37] <martino1> That's the first thing I told o
[16:37] <padhu> i got error during GUI login end the error log is http://pastebin.com/MfC8yT4A, please help me
[16:37] <martino1> to kill X
[16:38] <martino1> when pgrep X returns "" it means X isn't running
[16:38] <JPeterson> martin1 and i explained that later in "[18:31] <JPeterson> martin, yes but that was because it wasnt running. i guess startx start X and not lightdm"
[16:38] <martino1> oh sorry didnt' read
[16:39] <orgaZmo> hi there.. im looking for help about scripts.. is this right plase or i can get pointed to the right direction?
[16:39] <Bustacap> Anyone know about cursor themes?
[16:39] <bazhang> orgaZmo, #bash
[16:40] <orgaZmo> okey.. thx
[16:40] <_cronus_> JPeterson, service --status-all only lists sysvinit jobs, to get the status of upstart jobs use initctl list
[16:41] <martino1> JPeterson: you can set the keybinding to do it faster
[16:41] <Bustacap> Is there a way to paste into terminal besides right clicking?
[16:42] <martino1> shift ctrl V
[16:42] <Bustacap> Thanks martino1 :P
[16:42] <Bustacap> Always wondered that.
[16:42] <martino1> press shift and ctrl with the 5th (minis) finger
[16:42] <martino1> and V with the [indice] haha
[16:42] <martino1> it's cery comfortable
[16:43] <martino1> *very   lol
[16:43] <beandog> Bustacap: middle click with mouse
[16:43] <beandog> Bustacap: highlight something with the mouse, then middle click mouse to paste it
[16:44] <[TiZ]> Man, a whole lot of people on OMGU complaining about 12.10. I hope I didn't make the wrong decision in choosing to install Quantal. But Xfce 4.10's been acting weird in Precise, and there's no way I'm going without 4.10.
[16:44] <Bustacap> beandog, but that's only if you copy it from in terminal right?
[16:44] <martino1> the mouse is a pain for terminal guys
[16:44] <martino1> :D
[16:45] <Guillem_> [TiZ], a lot of people has trouble when there is a  new ubuntu release...
[16:45] <beandog> Bustacap: no, from anywhere
[16:45] <beandog> to anywhere
[16:45] <Guest93585> man same here .. precise is a headache
[16:45] <Bustacap> Are any of you using cursor themes?
[16:45] <fluitfries> lubuntu v12 has been fine for me.
[16:45] <fluitfries> as in, the same amount of issues i had in 11.
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[16:46] <[TiZ]> Guillem_: Yeah, I know. It's so offputting though, the way people decry it so hard, as if it's an abomination on computing, or that it wasn't tested at all or something.
[16:47] <ironfoot495> Hello I have install ubuntu 12.04 LTS and now I can't get my 1024c756 resolution working. I really need help.
[16:47] <perkis> is there opengl 3 on ubuntu 12.10 and an intel onboard graphics?
[16:48] <ironfoot495> I can't get my 1024x756 resolution working
[16:51] <designbybeck> My friend just upgraded from 12.04 to 12.10: and he has the "Circle Slash" on his Settings Icons: Any Idea? http://www.pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=39549
[16:51] <Guest93585> cant get 1024 * 756 on what ???
[16:51] <designbybeck> all other updates seem to have gone smoothly
[16:52] <seednode_> 1024x756? Don't ya mean 1024*768
[16:54] <wad> I've been using an old debian box as my home internet gateway for many years now. It has two NICs, one that connects to my cable modem, and one that connects to my LAN. It uses IP-tables to do the routing stuff. I'm considering replacing the the machine and the OS. I am most concerned about stability and reliability. Should I install Ubuntu Server 12.04.1 LTS?
[16:54] <tabasko> hey, does somebody use fingerprint to login and has to still input password for gnome keyring? :)
[16:54] <tabasko> I tried to delete login.keyring file, but it asks new password and Im back to start
[16:55] <hyw> hello
[16:55] <hyw> does anyboady here?
[16:55] <Guest93585> pls pls pls how do i make my login keyring eiither open on its own or not even ask me for it whenever i log in
[16:56] <vlt> wad: Why not keep Debian (if you want it stable)?
[16:56] <vlt> !ask | hyw
[16:56] <hyw> how to install qq
[16:57] <wastrel> does qq work on linux?
[16:57] <wastrel> try #ubuntu-cn
[16:57] <wad> vlt, I'm going to upgrade the hard drive, and so this is a good time to replace the OS. It's running lenny; rather old. Also, my friend (linux guru) set up the IP-tables for me, and I could never get my mind around how to maintain that. I've tried several times to do things, but I always end up turning off my internet, and not being able to google solutions.
[16:57] <beandog> Guest93585: you could reset the keyring password to blank, then it'll just let you in
[16:58] <bazhang> hyw, empathy should be able to handle qq
[16:58] <wad> I found an ip-tables management package that I'm thinking of using.
[16:58] <hyw> Ok thanks
[16:58] <roylaprattep> wad: did you try Shorewall ?
[16:58] <wad> I have not looked at that. Do you recommend it?
[16:59] <roylaprattep> Really.
[16:59] <roylaprattep> The best front-end CLI for iptables that I tried.
[17:00] <beandog> I cant stand shorewall.
[17:00] <beandog> but I seem to be totally alone there. :)
[17:00] <beandog> I use quicktables.
[17:00] <wad> Shorewall looks just right! What don't you like about it, beandog?
[17:01] <beandog> wad: seems overkill for just setting up a firewall
[17:01] <beandog> well, it *is* overkill if you're just doing a firewall.
[17:01] <beandog> if you're doing nat or something, then yah, it's probably okay
[17:01] <trism> designbybeck: is the user using a custom icon theme? I had to modify Faenza to inherit from ubuntu-mono-dark to get those icons
[17:02] <wad> The box does a lot of stuff. It hosts websites, does NAT, runs samba for printers and file sharing...
[17:02] <designbybeck> that that I know of trism.. I think he was pretty stock
[17:02] <wad> In addition to being a firewall. So, you'd recommend Shorewall then, beandog?
[17:02] <trism> designbybeck: gsettings get org.gnome.desktop.interface icon-theme
[17:02] <designbybeck> thank you trism he has it at home, so  maybe he'll bring it to work later
[17:03] <beandog> wad, no I'd never recommend it myself, but whatever works is fine :)
[17:03] <roylaprattep> wad: Try it.
[17:03] <roylaprattep> wad: You'll adopt it. :P
[17:04] <wad> I will. Thanks, guys! Would you recommend Ubuntu desktop or server, for this? It's a server, but I tend to like to run the desktop software anyway, as it seems to have better support.
[17:04] <roylaprattep> Ubuntu server 12.04 LTS.
[17:04] <wad> s/software/OS/
[17:04] <roylaprattep> Is what I use.
[17:04] <wad> Okay, cool. I'll get 12.04.1 LTS, 32-bit.
[17:05] <mourad> Unlimited International calls. is 100% free!
[17:05] <mourad> http://free-unlimited-international-calls.tk/
[17:05] <mourad> that you must download and install
[17:05] <wad> Actually, the download just finished. :)
[17:05] <kishimi8I> mourad how
[17:05] <kishimi8I> how does it work mourad
[17:06] <bazhang> !ot | mourad
[17:06] <mourad> that you must download and install
[17:06] <bazhang> mourad, stop that now
[17:06] <roylaprattep> Kick'em out.
[17:07] <kishimi8I> oh i was encouraging him ish
[17:07] <opakavic> i want to install ubuntu in my laptop
[17:07] <opakavic> i created a usb bootable iso
[17:08] <opakavic> after i boot i get blank screen\
[17:08] <roylaprattep> are you booting from your usb ?
[17:08] <opakavic> what is the boot parameter\
[17:08] <deadmund> opakavic: Do you see any ubuntu related menus or anything before it goes blank?
[17:08] <roylaprattep> have you any screen before attempt to boot ubuntu live ?
[17:09] <opakavic> deadmund: let me see check that again
[17:09] <opakavic> wait
[17:09] <deadmund> waiting...
[17:09] <roylaprattep> too...
[17:10] <bakkrosa> hey
[17:10] <stimoceiver> hi, just ran the upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10 and now i cant edit "software sources" in either update manager->settings nor synaptic->settings
[17:11] <deadmund> stimoceiver: are you kidding?  They moved it _again_ ?
[17:11] <deadmund> stimoceiver: just edit the file: /etc/apt/sources.list  that doesn't move
[17:11] <stimoceiver> yeah but i mean
[17:11] <stimoceiver> the sources list is fine
[17:11] <stimoceiver> i just liked the nice gui interface to it, lol
[17:11] <demersus> I need some help with NFS 4 ID mapping.  Anyone have time to help me figure it out?
[17:12] <bakkrosa> does anyone have the time to help a complete newbie to ubuntu find and install drivers to his ethernet card?
[17:12] <stimoceiver> deadmund: what im saying is the button "settings" is there on update manager, but clicking it just refreshes the list of updates
[17:13] <bakkrosa> 12.10 was installed on my MacBook Pro without my knowledge or consent, so I'm a little lost as to what's going on
[17:13] <beandog> bakkrosa: uh, should work out of the box.  It's intel hardware on Macs
[17:13] <[TiZ]> bakkrosa: Find whoever did that, and kick them in the knee.
[17:13] <[TiZ]> Spreading the love of linux is all well and good, but only when it's consentual.
[17:13] <[TiZ]> That sounds way dirtier than it actually is.
[17:14] <bakkrosa> yeah, my laptop was ubunturaped
[17:14] <beandog> lol
[17:14] <bakkrosa> but it seems to be liking it
[17:14] <[TiZ]> giggity.
[17:14] <rns> does anyone know how to change the following lines of example emails addresses to a single line seperated by commas using gedit?
[17:14] <rns> todd.lyne@cbqer-ne.com
[17:14] <deadmund> stimoceiver: I am not on an ubuntu machine right now.  If you're suggesting there is a bug I suggest you search the current bugs on launchpad and see if you can find an occurrence of it
[17:14] <rns> tony.mcdonald@cbqer.com
[17:14] <rns> derek.miller@cbqer.com
[17:14] <rns> bill.moylan@cbqer-ne.com
[17:14] <FloodBot1> rns: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:14] <deadmund> bakkrosa: Is this a tech support question?
[17:14] <deadmund> Also, if you laptop liked it, it wasn't rape.
[17:15] <bakkrosa> deadmund: I'd guess so, I need both help in finding and installing the drivers correctly
[17:15] <D0lphin_> Hello :)
[17:16] <deadmund> bakkrosa: Ubuntu (linux in fact) comes with most drivers built in.  Is there a specific piece of hardware that is giving you issues?  For this we can select a better driver perhaps
[17:16] <stimoceiver> deadmund: so 12.10 is MAverick yes? Everything in /uysr/share/python-apt/templates/Ubuntu.info still refers to precise... :-(
[17:17] <D0lphin_> I'm sorry about the question but..., I have one android mobilphone and i connect to the usb but i cant acess to the mobilphone information. Any idea how we can acess to the storage of mopilphone android?
[17:17] <deadmund> stimoceiver: haha, funny...
[17:17] <daftykins> D0lphin_: is it running android v4 ?
[17:17] <deadmund> stimoceiver: look at /etc/issue
[17:17] <stimoceiver> deadmund: 12.10
[17:17] <D0lphin_> daftykins  no it is more old...
[17:17] <sabba> hi
[17:17] <javierf_> hi! I don't have much experience in terminal use. I downloaded a gedit plugin I need for my thesis programing but have to install it through a script. But I have no idea how to do that... plugin is imitation-1.1 that I downloaded from http://codetree.com.au/projects/imitation/ someone can help me? thanks!!!
[17:18] <Ron-> hi, what can i do if win 8 (original) won't detect dvd drive and i couldnt install ubuntu?
[17:18] <deadmund> stimoceiver: there ya go
[17:18] <daftykins> D0lphin_: some phones, when you connect USB, you have to bring down the notification area and select to enable file transfer - are you getting that?
[17:18] <err-or> rna: what?
[17:18] <deadmund> Ron-: The OS does not need to recognize the DVD drive.  The BIOS does.
[17:18] <atrius> anyone know off the top of your head what the command for the run dialog is?
[17:18] <bluestring> is there anyway to change how much brightness my brightness button changes?
[17:18] <daftykins> atrius: alt+f2 ?
[17:18] <Ron-> deadmund, any way out of this?
[17:18] <D0lphin_> daftykins yes i clik in the mobilphone  "enable storage"
[17:19] <atrius> daftykins: well yeah.. but i was looking for what that launches
[17:19] <beandog> javierf_: did you run the install script?
[17:19] <donofrio> ActionParsnip, - that "--reinstall" command worked - never noticed that switch before THANKS!
[17:19] <deadmund> Ron-: Edit the BIOS to boot the ubutnu DVD first / instead of the HDD
[17:19] <daftykins> atrius: probably an obscure explorer switch
[17:19] <atrius> daftykins: k, i'll keep poking at it :)
[17:19] <javierf_> beandog, that's what I though, but haven't done it before. I went into the folder where the script is, but don't know how to run it
[17:19] <ik> Hi internet friends
[17:19] <beandog> javierf_: went in there through a terminal?
[17:20] <javierf_> I tried copying step by step the commands in the script on the terminal, but no
[17:20] <javierf_> beandog, yes, through a terminal
[17:20] <daftykins> atrius: yeah i just fired it up and looked in task manager, in win7, it's lurking under explorer.exe! :)
[17:20] <ik> I'm installing w/ wubi and after the reboot, it tries to complete the install. Fails with "The disk contains an unclean file system (0, 0)." and cannot mount: "Mount is denied because the NTFS volume is already exclusively opened."
[17:20] <beandog> javierf_: run python config.py
[17:20] <ik> So
[17:20] <ik> I already ran chkdsk and did a clean shutdown
[17:20] <D0lphin_> daftykins is need to install something more to the android works in linux?! i allready search in the www but i cant find nathing special :|
[17:20] <stimoceiver> deadmund: can you fpaste a copy of your Ubuntu.info ?
[17:20] <ik> and I can mount the volume in busybox
[17:20] <FloodBot1> ik: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:20] <ik> die in a fire floodbot
[17:20] <Ron-> deadmund, sorry. the probems is not being able to burn the dvd
[17:20] <deadmund> stimoceiver: I cannot!  I'm not on an ubuntu computer right now! :P
[17:20] <atrius> daftykins: i was thinking in Ubuntu :D
[17:20] <deadmund> Ron-: oh!!
[17:21] <stimoceiver> deadmund: oh, darn.
[17:21] <deadmund> Ron-: You should ask in #windows how to get your DVD recongized.  Or make an Ubuntu USB
[17:21] <daftykins> atrius: lol, i responded to do with one OS then kept thinking on another - oops, sorry - Friday night for you ;)
[17:21] <stimoceiver> well thanks for helping me with this
[17:21] <beandog> Ron-: your bios probably has a "load boot menu" option once it starts up (probably F8 or F12).  Bios startup message would display it.  Go into that on startup of computer, then select DVD
[17:22] <Ron-> deadmund, don't have a usb. at #windows there was no help
[17:22] <atrius> daftykins: lol... true :D
[17:22] <riqdiiz> 1st installed ---->windows then -----ubuntu .then grub came up .Will i lose it if I reformat the  windows partition ?
[17:22] <deadmund> stimoceiver: someone else can probably provide that file to you here in this channel
[17:22] <daftykins> D0lphin_: you shouldn't do, have you tried running "lsusb" in a terminal to see if you see the phone connected?
[17:22] <Ron-> beandog, the problem is with burning
[17:22] <err-or> Ron-: your windoze doesnt recognize your dvd drive? ^^
[17:22] <ThinkT510> riqdiiz: lose grub? no. lose windows? yes
[17:22] <beandog> Ron-: oh I misread you then
[17:22] <Ron-> err-or, exactly
[17:22] <doublequotes> Hi! I am running an ubuntu headless server over ssh and all of a sudden my double quote character (") and my bracket characters ([ and ]) aren't parsing correctly...
[17:22] <deadmund> Ron-: Well people here are dedicated to ubuntu tech support.  Getting your DVD burner recognized in windows is not related to ubuntu at all
[17:22] <javierf_> beandog, says "python:can't open file config.py" No such file or directory". Config.py is inside a forder, not in the same directory as "install" file
[17:22] <kitchen> how does one get unity/compiz back to "factory settings"
[17:23] <GrV> hi
[17:23] <err-or> Ron-: checked the cables or perhaps sata drivers?
[17:23] <beandog> javierf_: I didn't even see an install file
[17:23] <Ron-> deadmund, so what will i do?
[17:23] <beandog> javierf_: I only saw three python files
[17:23] <beandog> *four
[17:23] <D0lphin_> daftykins that what i think i shoudnt..., yes it is enabled... te mobilhone says it detects the mobilphone and i have the option enable "enabled storage" in th emobilphone...
[17:23] <doublequotes> Hi! I am running an ubuntu headless server over ssh and all of a sudden my double quote character (") and my bracket characters ([ and ]) aren't parsing correctly...
[17:23] <kitchen> unity --reset # not working in quantal
[17:23] <stimoceiver> can someone who has successfully upgraded from 12.04 to 12.10 please fpaste me a copy of /usr/share/python-apt/templates/Ubuntu.info ?
[17:23] <Ron-> err-or, it worked fine ealier in win 7. but not in win 8 (original). i checked the cables briefly tho
[17:23] <D0lphin_> daftykins lsusb it is say it is enabled :|
[17:23] <donofrio> Matrox Parhella - anyone have any working suggestions (its a triple head output card....)
[17:24] <beandog> javierf_: er, sec, now I'm lost.
[17:24] <pavell> In the terminal every time I type in gedit and press enter the terminal doesnt respond to anything i type in
[17:24] <donofrio> also wondering if MagicJack (not standalone) works in WINE?
[17:24] <GrV> Hello guys
[17:24] <daftykins> D0lphin_: if you type "sudo fdisk -l" can you see a disk that's the right size that should be the SD card in your phone?
[17:24] <jrib> pavell: gedit &    will start gedit in the background
[17:24] <beandog> javierf_: ah, okay, just run ./instlal
[17:24] <beandog> bah
[17:24] <beandog> ./install
[17:25] <pavell> jrid I know but the terminal itself doesnt do anything so I cant compile nor run any programs I wrote in gedit
[17:26] <javierf_> beandog, that did it :)    Thank you very much, I will remember how to do it for the next time :)
[17:26] <riqdiiz> I thought fdisk means floppy disk  daftykins..?=-O
[17:27] <beandog> javierf_: np, and that's not standard, but whatever :)
[17:27] <daftykins> riqdiiz: heh no, fixed disk or format disk, partitioning utility
[17:27] <gaetano> #ubuntustudio
[17:27] <javierf_> beandog, ah, hehe. Well, you figured out how to do it this time, so great. Thanks again and have a nice day
[17:28] <opakavic> deadmund: hmm, its black screen, a cursor is blinking and it has word boot
[17:28] <opakavic> should i press enter
[17:28] <donofrio> riqdiiz, you can always "man <command>" and it will return what it does (if an manpage entry exists)
[17:28] <jrib> pavell: if you start it with the "&" at the end, you'll be able to
[17:28] <opakavic> boot:_
[17:28] <riqdiiz> in terminal?
[17:28] <opakavic> yes
[17:28] <opakavic> usb boot
[17:29] <D0lphin_> daftykins sorry abou the time, i'm not a shure i got 4 places, windows | linux | linux swap | and other linux.... "not a shure what is this one" but i dont think it can be from the mobilphone because the space amount
[17:29] <stimoceiver> can someone who has successfully upgraded from 12.04 to 12.10 please fpaste me a copy of /usr/share/python-apt/templates/Ubuntu.info ?
[17:29] <stimoceiver> Thanks!
[17:29] <pavell> jrib thank you for your help I feel a little bit stupid (simple mistake)
[17:29] <bluestring> is there anyway to change how much brightness my brightness button changes?
[17:29] <D0lphin_> daftykins not a shure
[17:29] <riqdiiz> donofrio  you can man < command > in terminal?
[17:30] <daftykins> D0lphin_: yeah that sounds like the phone isn't presenting the SD card, maybe there is a tickbox somewhere in your phone's settings - but other than that i have no idea, sorry
[17:30] <deadmund> opakavic: I'm not sure!  I can't help!  Sorry :(
[17:31] <D0lphin_> daftykins that ok no poblem thank you. Is strange because they are detecting everything but lees the storage... and in windows is working fine to so from the mobilphone shud be :| really do`t know thank anyway :)
[17:33] <riqdiiz> have a great friday guys bye;-)
[17:33] <Erik_D> bye
[17:33] <daftykins> D0lphin_: good luck :)
[17:33] <hilt4> Hello people, today I update my ubuntu 12.04 to 12.10...and I can logging anymore....In recovery mode I can't select options...anyone can help me ?
[17:33] <D0lphin_> daftykins thanks :)
[17:34] <hilt4> My passwords is correct, but ubuntu say: invalid passwords
[17:34] <nim0_> whats the command to launch gnome-screensaver  prefs  on 12.10 ?
[17:34] <donofrio> hilt4, try in recovery mode boot from "ALT" cd/dvd/usb then passwd your user and you should be good to go
[17:35] <hilt4> donofrio: boot with a ubuntu cd correct ? what's is from ALT ?
[17:35] <hilt4> alternate ?
[17:38] <arun__> I was moving some files from my Hard drive to USB drive ( Cut / Paste ) using Nautilus. And suddenly the copying process stopped. Now I cannot see my Folders in both the source Hard disk and the USB Harddrive.
[17:38] <arun__> Please help. I lost around 100GB data.
[17:39] <genii-around> arun__: I would suggest to run: sudo sync     ..in a terminal
[17:39] <fusion27> Any of you guys ever successfully gotten Tomcat 7 configured for SSL with a vendor certificate?
[17:39] <arun__> Is that enoughf ? Just sudo sync ?
[17:41] <Frozenlock> I'm searching for a way to add multiple IPs to my machine. I've found several forum threads, but they are all many years old. When I follow them I just end up losing my connection. (Adding addresses in "/etc/network/interfaces") Could someone points me to a tutorial on how to do this?
[17:41] <gaetano> someone knows what kind of error is it? : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1307692/
[17:42] <Habermas> Hey guys! I would love some advice! I have an old netbook (1.6ghz, 1gb ram) and I need an OS that runs smoothly cause Ubuntu 12.04 is a bit laggy sometimes. Any suggestions?
[17:42] <bazhang> Habermas, lubuntu
[17:42] <bazhang> !lubuntu | Habermas
[17:43] <Habermas> What about Linux Mint?
[17:43] <bazhang> Habermas, not supported here, we wont suggest it
[17:43] <ironfoot495> I really need help . I installed server 12.04 and installed the proprietary driver but still does not work?
[17:44] <TJ-> Frozenball: What you want is "virtual network interfaces". As far as I'm aware Network Manager doesn't support them. They would need to be defined in "/etc/network/interfaces".
[17:44] <ironfoot495> Can someone help me find the right way to see my 1024x756 resolution???
[17:44] <TJ-> Frozenlock:  What you want is "virtual network interfaces". As far as I'm aware Network Manager doesn't support them. They would need to be defined in "/etc/network/interfaces".
[17:44] <bazhang> ironfoot495, on server?
[17:44] <ironfoot495> bazhang: yes
[17:45] <bazhang> ironfoot495, server has no X
[17:45] <ironfoot495> that's right
[17:45] <ironfoot495> bazhang: yes that's right!!!
[17:45] <GunArm1> isn't there a way to "simulate" and apt-get install?  ie make sure all the packages are typed correctly but not actually do it?
[17:45] <GunArm1> is that -s?
[17:45] <GunArm1> "perform ordering simulation"
[17:46] <GunArm1> s/and/an/
[17:46] <IdleOne> GunArm1: man apt-get
[17:46] <nim0_> how do I launch selecter for gnome-sreensaver ???  from cli
[17:46] <IdleOne> GunArm1: sudo apt-get -s install package
[17:46] <TJ-> Frozenlock: I'm reading that it may be possible, but not from the nm-applet GUI. Apparently it uses "keyfile config files" in "/etc/NetworkManager/system-connections"
[17:47] <ironfoot495> bazhang: I went to additonal driver and activated the driver and rebooted but still I can not get my akia 37" to see it.
[17:47] <GunArm1> IdleOne: thanks
[17:47] <Frozenlock> TJ-: Thanks! I'll take a look
[17:48] <TJ-> Frozenlock: Also, this page might help you find the actual way to do it. http://edvoncken.net/2011/04/tip-configuring-network-aliases-with-networkmanager-on-fedora-14/
[17:48] <ironfoot495> bazhang:  oh! what I did was after install 12.04 server I added the x part by writing xubuntu-desktop.
[17:48] <Chotaz> usr13_: I tried everything you told me regarding renaming Xorg.conf and restarting lightDM, the GPU fans are still at 100%
[17:48] <Habermas> If I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 with GNOME isn't it better for me to just install a different graphic interface than getting lubuntu? After all I've read I just have this feeling that lubuntu is the same stuff just in a different wrapping.
[17:49] <Frozenlock> TJ-: Well I can see the second IP I've added, but still can't bind with it... :/
[17:49] <ironfoot495> apt-get install xubuntu-desktop.
[17:49] <Ame> ciao
[17:50] <ironfoot495> I'm using my small screen to get started here.
[17:50] <IdleOne> ironfoot495: #xubuntu may be of more help
[17:50] <Ame> ho un problema di audio con firefox
[17:50] <astropirate> I am looking to build  a dual hex core system for number crunching. Will Ubuntu run and use both processors?
[17:50] <IdleOne> !it | Ame
[17:50] <ironfoot495> buzzkill: ok thanks!
[17:51] <ironfoot495> IdleOne: Thanks!
[17:52] <ChattChittoRG> ciao
[17:53] <D0lphin_> Well thanks for the help. Stay with Saint Angels. :)
[17:54] <TJ-> Frozenball: I wonder if you could do it with nm-applet. Might be worth a try. Lose anything in /etc/network/interfaces then "Add" a new wired connection, set the MAC address to the same as the existing NIC
[17:54] <TJ-> Grrr, Frozenlock
[17:54] <deadmund> Trying to get the bcm4331 (in a 8th gen macbook pro) working in 12.10.  The firmware-b43-installer package won't install for 4331.  There is a PPA for 12.04 that will allow the card to work (I believe) offering a different version of firmware-b43-installer.  Should we install that PPA even though it's for 12.04?  ppa in question: http://ppa.launchpad.net/mpodroid/mactel/ubuntu/dists/
[17:56] <TJ-> Frozenball: Actually, it seems you *can* do it from nm-applet. I've just set up a Wired Connection, IPv4 manual addressing, and added 2 IP address/subnets to it
[17:56] <TJ-> Frozenlock:
[18:03] <alusion> When I enter the command users I return with 6 instances of me
[18:03] <alusion> >_> ?
[18:03] <deadmund> alusion: you have 5 terminals open and you're logged in the gui
[18:03] <deadmund> Trying to get the bcm4331 (in a 8th gen macbook pro) working in 12.10.  The firmware-b43-installer package won't install for 4331.  There is a PPA for 12.04 that will allow the card to work (I believe) offering a different version of firmware-b43-installer.  Should we install that PPA even though it's for 12.04?  ppa in question: http://ppa.launchpad.net/mpodroid/mactel/ubuntu/dists/
[18:04] <astropirate> Anyone know of any issues with dual hex core setup and Ubuntu?
[18:04] <alusion> Oh lol. Thanks =)
[18:05] <K1rk> Has anyone ever seen an "unknown" username in the CUPS logs?  I've got several print jobs from unknown users in my logs...
[18:08] <StarryDynamo> Hey Ubuntu.
[18:09] <gaetano> #ubuntustudio
[18:09] <donofrio> Matrox Parhella - anyone have any working suggestions (its a triple head output card....) any thoughts on how to make it work with 12.10 (or should I mean make 12.10 work corretcly with the Parhella)
[18:09] <qkit> guys, i accidently deleted my /usr/sbin
[18:10] <qkit> anyways to recover it?
[18:10] <donofrio> qkit, restore from your backup
[18:10] <qkit> i dont have backup :(
[18:10] <donofrio> reinstall
[18:10] <donofrio> unless someone else knows more?
[18:11] <donofrio> any xOrg and Matrox experts here
[18:11] <lolo2> what does "redc5 ok" mean?
[18:11] <lolo2> example e.dsw.com
[18:12] <Guest31658> hello everyone, i am running ubuntu 12.04lts
[18:12] <Ihsan_> Hello, I just updated from Ubuntu 12.04 to 12.10, but now 'MyUnity' is automatically deleted and is unsupported for Ubuntu 12.10. I only want to color the left launcher of unity, could you prefer me an application to do that? Just color the launcher? Thanks!
[18:12] <Guest31658> my wireless restart many times
[18:13] <donofrio> any xOrg and Matrox experts here
[18:14] <donofrio> wanting to reload my desktop with ubuntu but cannot till I get triplehead working on parhella along with WINE support for MagicJack (the one that plugs into machine...)
[18:14] <xibalba> .
[18:14] <Guest31658> restart wirelss problem is so pathetic
[18:14] <xibalba> how do i bump up SHMMIN
[18:14] <tyler_d> my reschedule interupts are through the roof even after dissabling acpi http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1307773/
[18:15] <moondoggy> Anyone know which "git" I should install to use github under Ubuntu?
[18:15] <tyler_d> running 12.04 64 bit... any help or guidance would be fantastic
[18:15] <donofrio> tyler_d, I'm 12.10 (was 12.04) what's your questiuon'
[18:16] <Frozenlock> TJ-: Perhaps I'm just doing something silly. I've added the additional IP to my wlan interface, with the same gateway as my main IP. Mask 255.255.255.0. On the top of your head, is there some additional I should take to make it available? Reboot?
[18:16] <Pici> moondoggy: git-core iirc
[18:16] <msp301> moondoggy: Hey, I just run apt-get install git, which just grabs the latenst for your release
[18:16] <tyler_d> donofrio: my scheduled interupts are above 30k on average, causing my system to lag, furthermore causing my temp to be close to 100 C
[18:17] <moondoggy> That's odd.  Mine didn't find git, said it was referred to in another package, but didn't elaborate.
[18:17] <swex> anybody help me please where to explore this bug: while in opengl game my usb mouse and keyboard become died, and keep this until I kill -9 X server
[18:17] <TJ-> Frozenlock: Where are you adding it? In the 'interfaces' file, or using nm-applet/
[18:17] <moondoggy> msp301, Pici, I see git-core.  That contains the original git?
[18:18] <moondoggy> I also see "gitk."  Must be compatible with github, right?
[18:18] <TJ-> moondoggy: gitk is a graphical tree visualiser
[18:19] <TJ-> moondoggy: On 12.04 the package for git is "git". Previously it was "git-core"
[18:20] <moondoggy> TJ-, Ah, that's it.  I'm on 10.04.
[18:20] <moondoggy> TJ-, can I then add gitk?  They must be compatible, right?
[18:20] <msp301> moondoggy: you can use gitk too, it all works fine
[18:21] <moondoggy> msp301, thanks.  I'm still scared of computers from our old Digital Alpha, makefiles...
[18:21] <moondoggy> I'll try it.
[18:21] <TJ-> moondoggy: gitk is part of the git project
[18:22] <tyler_d> well that was a fail.
[18:22] <TJ-> moondoggy: It depends on the git-core package, which is the one you need to clone/pull/push from remote repositories such as github
[18:22] <msp301> moondoggy: remember github is just a remote place to push your repositories to, local packages shouldn't cause much of a problem :) ... good luck :)
[18:23] <moondoggy> TJ-, msp301 thanks again.  Later...
[18:23] <Frozenlock> TJ-: From he network connection GUI. It then shows up in the "/etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/<network-name>"
[18:24] <Ihsan_> Hello, I just updated from Ubuntu 12.04 to 12.10, but now 'MyUnity' is automatically deleted and is unsupported for Ubuntu 12.10. I only want to color the left launcher of unity, could you prefer me an application to do that? Just color the launcher? Thanks!
[18:25] <TJ-> tyler_d: I don't seen anything untoward in your "/proc/interrupts" you paste-binned earlier.
[18:25] <sary> usr13_: See what i mean ^^ :-)
[18:26] <tyler_d> TJ-: the schedule interupts within there are ie. cpu3 at 12706
[18:26] <qmanjr5> Won't OpenJDK cover Java applets in browsers?
[18:26] <tyler_d> TJ-: sorry, 62829
[18:26] <tyler_d> TJ-: which is far 2 many.
[18:27] <tyler_d> brb
[18:28] <Bombo> how do i stop unity in 12.10? (just want to have ssh access)
[18:28] <Avinash> Hello guys, I got a quick question : http://pastebin.com/L4sTRyib
[18:29] <Avinash> can anyone help me with tit
[18:29] <Avinash> oops sorry, it*
[18:29] <bkc_> !language | Avinash
[18:29] <bkc_>  ;)
[18:29] <crqd> tit is a bad word now? lulz
[18:30] <bkc_> this is #ubuntu... all words are bad words ;)
[18:30] <nim0_> ubottu,, fuck you
[18:30] <Avinash> lol guys, it was a typo ...
[18:33] <marcus> hello, anyone know you need to install to get wineasio with qjackctl ?
[18:33] <qmanjr5> Doesn't OpenJDK run Java applets in browsers?
[18:33] <bjaanes> qmanjr5, You need icedtea for that
[18:33] <nim0_> Avinash,  sudo   ./build.sh
[18:33] <marcus> how to**
[18:34] <qmanjr5> bjaanes: Thanks.
[18:34] <nim0_> Avinash,  you need root privileges
[18:34] <Dezgeg> okay what the fuck is with 12.10 and wine?
[18:34] <IdleOne> !language | Dezgeg
[18:35] <Avinash> I'm already had given root permission..
[18:35] <Dezgeg> i mean, seriously. conflict with grub? are you all insane?
[18:35] <accipter> when I launch a unity session there are no window manager (no window borders or top bar). I am running 12.10 with an Intel HD 4800 graphics chip. I have tried purging unity and the dependencies and reinstalling, but the problem persists
[18:35] <Avinash> I* already gave it a root persmission
[18:35] <nim0_> Avinash,  yea i noticed the root@
[18:36] <nim0_> Avinash,  but try >  whoami
[18:36] <Avinash> just a sec
[18:36] <Avinash> it says "root"
[18:36] <IdleOne> Dezgeg: why not try reporting a bug instead of coming here and making a scene like a 3 year old
[18:36] <qmanjr5> bjaanes: I have IcedTea, and the latest version of OpenJDK, but Chrome still says I need to update Java
[18:37] <Dezgeg> because that's really ridiculous
[18:37] <marcus> how to get wineasio and qjackctl ??? any1 know
[18:39] <nim0_> Avinash,  I think the script is run in a mounted device in /media
[18:39] <tyler_d> TJ-: any thoughts?
[18:39] <nim0_> Avinash,   I think you dont have exec  set in the mount options in fstab
[18:40] <Avinash> nimo_, yes .. it was a "fuseblk" file system
[18:40] <nim0_> Avinash,  copy the script to your disk and then run it
[18:40] <TJ-> tyler_d: If those are bad, my system must be dying: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1307812/
[18:40] <Avinash> yeah I copied the whole content, to my Desktop folder
[18:41] <Avinash> but I get same erro :(
[18:41] <Avinash> update-workspaces.sh: 73: update-workspaces.sh: ./build.sh: Permission denied
[18:41] <Avinash> ERROR: SpiderMonkey build failed
[18:41] <tyler_d> TJ-: it's from an applicaiton or such trying to "balance" itself between the processors, from what little I know of it
[18:41] <TJ-> tyler_d: Use affinity to pin it to one
[18:42] <eacan> Why Microsoft XP is the best OS?
[18:42] <gogeta> xp lol
[18:42] <tyler_d> he he he
[18:42] <nim0_> Avinash,  dont be root in your desktop...... be the home user and use sudo
[18:42] <gogeta> eacan: it was when vista was out 7 is good
[18:42] <Avinash> ok
[18:43] <nim0_> Avinash,  the try >  sudo ./build.sh
[18:43] <Dezgeg> seriously. this is COMPLETE BULLSHIT. does any of you EVER test anything?
[18:43] <gogeta> Dezgeg: yes its called ubuntu lts
[18:44] <Dezgeg> oh great.
[18:44] <Avinash> it says "command not found"
[18:44] <hhhzzzarn> dezgeg, what is your problem in ubuntu?
[18:44] <gogeta> Dezgeg: if its not lts is bleeding edge testing
[18:45] <tyler_d> TJ-: any clue how to pin down the pid of that proc that is overunning those?
[18:46] <nim0_> Avinash,  do > id
[18:46] <nim0_> Avinash, and check if you are in the admin group (118)
[18:46] <atrius> what in the world is the name of the apt plugin for picking the fastest mirror?
[18:46] <gogeta> atrius: dunno i just used the ui and hit slect fastest
[18:47] <hhhzzzarn> atrius, what are you downloading?
[18:47] <atrius> gogeta: i'm on CLI only
[18:47] <gogeta> atrius: i dont think its a apt plugin but a sepret app
[18:47] <atrius> hhhzzzarn: just a random set of packages... i recall there is some plugin to do speed testing and select the fastest one from time to time.. but i don't recall the name of it
[18:48] <hhhzzzarn> atrius, i do not know.
[18:48] <atrius> k, i'll look around
[18:49] <gogeta> atrius: http://askubuntu.com/questions/39922/how-do-you-select-the-fastest-mirror-from-the-command-line/141536#141536
[18:49] <atrius> gogeta: funny, i was just reading that.. :D
[18:50] <dileep> is there any channel from where i can get info about sqlplus
[18:50] <gogeta> sql maybe
[18:50] <gogeta> lol
[18:51] <nim0_> Avinash,  make your self an administrator-...... system -->  users and groups
[18:51] <nim0_> Avinash,  something like that
[18:51] <dileep> thanks gogeta
[18:52] <hhhzzzarn> funny.
[18:52] <shadowflee> if i install ubuntu on my iconatab a200 will i be able to dual boot it with android ics ?
[18:53] <hhhzzzarn> shadowflee, do not know what is iconatab a200.
[18:54] <shadowflee> yea its a tablet
[18:54] <hhhzzzarn> i know that part.
[18:54] <gogeta> shadowflee: i dont think you can dual boot a tablet yet
[18:54] <gogeta> shadowflee: you use linux over chmod and vnc
[18:55] <shadowflee> i have
[18:55] <shadowflee> and it runs ok but you dont get the speed im looking for runing it within android
[18:55] <gogeta> shadowflee: we have not figured out how to even get proper display drivers yet
[18:55] <gogeta> shadowflee: hence the need for vnc
[18:56] <Ron-> hi, i've a problem, my burnet image of ubuntu is not able to install the latest version. there are errors
[18:56] <gogeta> Ron-: md5 the cd see if its bad
[18:56] <Ron-> gogeta, is it easy?
[18:56] <shadowflee> you have a good pint there
[18:56] <gogeta> !md5
[18:56] <arthur_> Ron-: what errors do you get?
[18:57] <hhhzzzarn> ron, are you on ubuntu now?
[18:57] <AforAvi> hey ..
[18:58] <hhhzzzarn> hey to you too.
[18:58] <gogeta> shadowflee: whats wrong with just running andorid
[18:58] <gogeta> shadowflee: im pretty shure there is a app for all your needs
[18:58] <shadowflee> yea ill just stick with android
[18:59] <Ron-> arthur_, "unable to find medium for live cd"
[18:59] <tyler_d> how do you track down what program is causing Reschedule Interupts?
[18:59] <TJ-> tyler_d: Are you still there? It took me a while to figure out how to get the PID of the most switching process. Try this, maybe work it up some more. "for pid in /proc/{1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9}*; do echo "$(basename $pid) $(cat $pid/sched | grep nr_switches | awk '{print $3}')"; done | sort -n -k 2"
[18:59] <tyler_d> TJ-: still here
[18:59] <gogeta> shadowflee: you said its a icona get a blurtooth keybord insta netbook
[19:00] <TJ-> tyler_d: That'll give you a sorted list with "PID nr_switches"
[19:00] <gogeta> bluetooth
[19:00] <tyler_d> TJ-: so from there I should be able to dig in a bit. that's excellent
[19:01] <Ron-> gogeta, "the same"
[19:01] <arthur_> Ron-: then i'd do as was suggested and check the md5sum to make sure the download was not corrupt
[19:01] <Ron-> arthur_, did that
[19:01] <arthur_> Ron-: They match?
[19:01] <gogeta> Ron-: ad cd drive?
[19:01] <Ron-> arthur_, yes
[19:01] <gogeta> bad
[19:02] <tyler_d> TJ-: so ksoftirq is my main culprit(which is wireless)
[19:02] <arthur_> Ron-: this could be due to either a faulty drive like gogeta said, the CD burned incorrectly or the ISO you downloaded wasn't correct
[19:04] <Calinou> nice spam you have there BustAToast, and nice colors
[19:05] <gordonjcp> Calinou: ?
[19:05] <ncmccx> i have a windows 8 laptop trying to get ubuntu installed it doesnt have a bios. help please!!!
[19:05] <Calinou> report'd
[19:05] <Calinou> ncmccx: any computer has a BIOS, or in this case, UEFI
[19:05] <Calinou> note that windows 8 now comes with secure boot; you _have_ to disable it in the BIOS' menu
[19:06] <ncmccx> if it has uefi its not letting me install linux
[19:06] <Calinou> (forgot how, don't have a locked box here)
[19:06] <ncmccx>  bloody hell
[19:06] <Calinou> you can install gnu/linux, or even dualboot with uefi
[19:06] <ncmccx> ok i just want to install linux
[19:06] <Calinou> it's just the "secure boot" (oh god) thingie
[19:06] <ncmccx> i dont think its gonna let me
[19:07] <Calinou> you have to disable it in the UEFI menu, when you boot your computer, press the key that shows it up (usually escape, F8, F10, F12) when you boot your computer
[19:07] <Calinou> normally they should
[19:07] <Calinou> (tablets, however, won't)
[19:07] <ncmccx> it doesnt have those keys
[19:08] <hhhzzzarn> ncmccx, search for the your laptop model and windows 8 and bios and secure boot
[19:08] <OerHeks> ncmccx, maybe this page is any help >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[19:08] <hhhzzzarn> you are bound to find something because others have tried it
[19:08] <Ron-> arthur_, gogeta not sure here what it might stems from
[19:09] <arthur_> Ron-: is your computer capable of booting from USB and do you have a spare USB stick lying around?
[19:09] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting
[19:10] <Calisto94> Yeah Ubuntu 12.04 is better than Win7 XDD
[19:11] <Ron-> arthur_, i've 2gb at the car
[19:11] <arthur_> Ron-: the reason i ask is i always install using a USB, then you dont waste CD's, its faster and if your drive is broken or not working right you avoided that problem
[19:12] <Ron-> anyway, will it be hard for a begginer to make that: http://www.newsrssticker.com/images/tickr-extra-screenshot1.png ???
[19:13] <Calisto94> My sound chip has 4x Stereo output, 2x Stereo input and 2x digital output (up to 5.1) - Win7 doesn't support the chip anymore, because that 2007 chip is meant to be "too old" - Ubuntu does :D
[19:13] <Ron-> arthur_, is it easy to make a usb install nowdays?
[19:13] <Calisto94> Every output worx <3
[19:13] <arthur_> Ron-: Easy peasy, are you on Windows now?
[19:13] <Calisto94> And my H264 GPU-decoding also only works on Ubuntu lol
[19:13] <Calisto94> Great thanks to the Ubuntu devs :)
[19:13] <Ron-> i've some dvd drive (usb) in my other home. i might go bring it
[19:13] <Ron-> arthur_, yes
[19:14] <hhhzzzarn> ron, you do not need a dvd drive.
[19:14] <Ron-> i will follow the directions on ubuntu.org
[19:14] <Ron-> arthur_,
[19:14] <Ron-> for the usb
[19:14] <rbennacer> hi
[19:14] <arthur_> Ron-: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[19:14] <Ron-> but will 2gb be enoght?
[19:14] <hhhzzzarn> 2gb will be enough
[19:14] <arthur_> Ron-: yes it should be fine
[19:15] <Ron-> thank you
[19:15] <Ron-> see you
[19:15] <arthur_> Ron-: more than welcome
[19:16] <hhhzzzarn> ron, if you computer can not boot from usb after you restart, you need to press one of the functions keys on your keyboard as the computer is starting and choosing to boot from usb.
[19:16] <arthur_> hhhzzzarn: He's left
[19:16] <swex_> hm
[19:16] <hhhzzzarn> arthur, lol
[19:17] <swex_> can anybody help me with absolutely situation like this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/HalBreaksKeyboardAndMouse
[19:17] <swex_> but in 12.10
[19:17] <rbennacer> how many hd rebuild can i do in the same time? in a storage enclosure RAID6 and xfs FS?
[19:19] <K1rk> Anyone ever seen this issue with CUPS?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12319673
[19:20] <qkit> donofrio: manage to safe the system...by reinstall the package refering to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=735693&highlight=reinstall+all+packages+without+reinstalling+ubuntu
[19:20] <qkit> donofrio: just want to share this info with you :)
[19:22] <lasersanta> Hi I'm on Ubuntu 12.04 and amd getting this error  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1307938/ trying to apply changes with amdcccle utility to configure dual monitor.  Anyone know how to workaround or fix?
[19:25] <pietro_> hi guys
[19:25] <hhhzzzarn> hello.
[19:26] <isoplast661> hey guys
[19:26] <isoplast661> i have a question with regards to touchГ©gg
[19:26] <alias-atlas_> hallo
[19:27] <donofrio> qkit,so does this script work with an alt cdrom/dvd?
[19:27] <isoplast661> when i try to compile the file with qmake and then make, i get an error in which it tells me that there is a fatal error and that QtCore, no such file or directory exists
[19:27] <isoplast661> can someone please help me with how to install it?
[19:28] <Aethelred> I'm having video trouble. Running Lucid. Old video card died (seemingly). Was 8800GTS. Bought new card:  GTX 550 Ti. Machine boots, but it doesn't seem to allow resolutions above 1280x1024. I can't tell what driver is running. I need help getting sorting out driver/card issues.
[19:28] <jrib> isoplast661: touchegg is in the repositories, why are you compiling it?
[19:28] <Ristovski> Just asking, but do you need to write the exact resolution in GRUB_GFXMODE= ?
[19:29] <qkit> donofrio, no sure about cdrom/dvd . If u need to use those i believe you need to setup the source.list to point to the cd-rom
[19:29] <isoplast661> jrib i use 12.10 and when i installed it through the software center it wasnt working
[19:29] <qkit> donofrio, now i can see all my /usr/sbin tools in there :) after i reinstall all those installed package
[19:29] <isoplast661> jrib after googling i saw that someone said that it has some trouble with 12.10 and that one should compile and install it manually
[19:30] <alias-atlas_> РҝРҫ СҖСғСҒСҒРәРё РәСӮРҫ РҪРёСӮСҢ РөСҒСӮСҢ?
[19:30] <gordonjcp> !ru | alias-atlas_
[19:30] <jrib> isoplast661: ok, you should do В« sudo apt-get build-dep touchegg В» to install the dependencies
[19:31] <jrib> !compile | isoplast661
[19:31] <jvbsjlv>  hi, do u spk ru?
[19:31] <hhhzzzarn> not me.
[19:31] <arthur_> !ru | jvbsjlv
[19:31] <hhhzzzarn> use google translator :)
[19:31] <alias-atlas_> РҙР°! СҸ РҪР° СҖСғСҒСҒРәРҫРј
[19:31] <hhhzzzarn> and modify.
[19:32] <isoplast661> jrib thanks! But it still says the same as before...
 РҙСҖСғР¶РёСүРө РәР°Рә РјРҪРө РҝРҫРҝР°СҒСӮСҢ РҪР° РәР°РҪР°Р» РҙР»СҸ РҪР°СҒСӮСҖРҫР№РәРё СҒРөСӮРё i2p?
[19:32] <ThePendulum> Ubuntu is becoming socially awkward yet again
[19:32] <alias-atlas_> С…РҫСҮСғ СҒРҝСҖРҫСҒРёСӮСҢ Рҫ РҝСҖРҫРұР»РөРјРө, РҝРҫС…РҫР¶Рө РҪР° РІРёСҖСғСҒ СҲСҖРёС„СӮРҫРІ РІ Ubuntu 12.10 РІСҮРөСҖР° СғСҒСӮР°РҪРҫРІРёР»
[19:33] <bazhang> jvbsjlv, alias-atlas_ #ubuntu-ru for Russian NOT here
[19:33] <arthur_> ThePendulum: why? lol
[19:33] <ThePendulum> arthur_: All of the sudden, it yet again won't communicate with my phone
[19:33] <alias-atlas_> РәСӮРҫ-СӮРҫ СҒСӮР°Р»РәРёРІР°Р»СҒСҸ?
[19:33] <ThePendulum> alias-atlas_: /j #ubuntu-ru
[19:33] <arthur_> ThePendulum: what phone have you got?
[19:33] <grimeton> can someone point me to the ubuntu bug tracker url? i must be blind
[19:33] <ThePendulum> S3
[19:33] <ThePendulum> Putting on music and pulling off photograph is such a hassle without USB connectivity
[19:34] <jrib> isoplast661: you should pastebin I suppose
[19:34] <ThePendulum> It worked in the beginning, all of the sudden it doesn't.
[19:34] <isoplast661> jrib it doesnt offer any configure script as far as i see... so i dont know exactly how to go from here
[19:35] <genii-around> grimeton: https://bugs.launchpad.net/   is the main, were you looking for some specific bug url though?
[19:35] <jrib> isoplast661: well you could always read the debian/rules file for the version in ubuntu.  And you could also consider creating a proper package by following the recipe on the ubuntu wiki (/msg ubottu packaging)
[19:35] <ncmccx> i have an acer aspire one 725 0487 there is no way to install ubuntu on this thing. it came with windows 8 i can not access uefi bios
[19:35] <isoplast661> jrib, here is the paste of what i get: http://pastebin.com/JJcuQbP3
[19:35] <grimeton> genii-around: no, i just wasn't able to find it on ubuntu.com
[19:35] <arthur_> ThePendulum: just looked it up Android 4+ uses a new protocol not supported by Linux yet, want the askubuntu link for that?
[19:36] <genii-around> grimeton: The main project is just: ubuntu
[19:36] <ThePendulum> arthur_: Well, does it include a solution?
[19:36] <ThePendulum> arthur_: Also I find that hard to believe, since the device works for a short period of time (as in several days)
[19:36] <ThePendulum> USB, that is
[19:36] <isoplast661> jrib, any idea what i can do further?
[19:36] <ThePendulum> ncmccx: What have you tried so far?
[19:36] <grimeton> genii-around: yeah, i already filed bug reports, but the url is just not "visible" on ubuntu.com
[19:37] <ncmccx> i have gone to settings in the os
[19:37] <grimeton> i wonder how i made it to launchpad the last time
[19:37] <arthur_> ThePendulum: have you tried gmtp?
[19:37] <ThePendulum> ncmccx: Well, have you tried booting it while holding F10, F11 or F12?
[19:37] <ncmccx> and general advanced and no option to get into uefi
[19:37] <ncmccx> yes
[19:37] <ncmccx> those do not work
[19:37] <ThePendulum> ncmccx: Have you tried turning it off and on again?
[19:37] <ThePendulum> Whops, sorry
[19:37] <arthur_> ThePendulum: http://askubuntu.com/questions/169516/access-files-on-samsung-galaxy-s3-external-sd-card-using-ubuntu-12-04
[19:38] <jrib> isoplast661: can you pastebin what happens when you did the build-dep command?
[19:38] <ThePendulum> Well it's the internal storage I'm trying to ass, arthur_
[19:38] <ThePendulum> *access... what an inconvenient signal drop-out
[19:38] <arthur_> ThePendulum: ah sorry
[19:38] <arthur_> ThePendulum: its up to you what you do, i wont judge
[19:39] <isoplast661> jrib, yes: http://pastebin.com/q7EipnSz thanks a lot for the help!
[19:39] <Aethelred> I'm having video trouble. Running Lucid. Old video card died (seemingly). Was 8800GTS. Bought new card:  GTX 550 Ti. Machine boots, but it doesn't seem to allow resolutions above 1280x1024. I can't tell what driver is running. I need help getting sorting out driver/card issues.
[19:39] <jrib> isoplast661: you must add/uncomment the deb-src in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:40] <quidnunc> How do I delete a file on var so that I can have enough space? -->> Unable to write to /var/lib/sudo/user/0: No space left on device
[19:40] <jrib> quidnunc: try В« sudo apt-get clean В» to get some space
[19:40] <isoplast661> jrib, im sorry but i dont know what exactly that means... how do i do that?
[19:40] <quidnunc> jrib: I can't sudo
[19:40] <jrib> quidnunc: use recovery mode
[19:40] <quidnunc> jrib: :(
[19:40] <jrib> quidnunc: ?
[19:41] <quidnunc> jrib: Shouldn't be necessary to reboot machine
[19:41] <jrib> quidnunc: well delete things that you have access then
[19:41] <jrib> isoplast661: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:43] <ShinyObjects> Hey everyone. I have an iPod Touch 3rd gen. When I plug it in Rhythmbox recognizes it and sees it needs to be initialized
[19:44] <ShinyObjects> The list of possible iPods it could be includes 1st gen, 2nd, and 4th
[19:44] <ShinyObjects> No option for 3rd gen
[19:44] <ShinyObjects> Does anyone know if "4th gen" would be safe?
[19:44] <ShinyObjects> Or 2nd?
[19:45] <isoplast661> jrib, http://pastebin.com/bFQUppNi thanks
[19:47] <jrib> isoplast661: copy thoses lines and change "deb" to "deb-src"
[19:48] <isoplast661> jrib, and then?
[19:48] <mystblade9> I'm on Xubuntu 12.04 right now, which was an Ubuntu installation before (installed xubuntu-desktop), and would like to upgrade to Ubuntu 12.10. When I do so, will all Ubuntu defaults be reinstalled and reconfigured again?
[19:49] <jrib> isoplast661: apt-get update and do your build-dep again
[19:49] <mystblade9> Or do I have to install Ubuntu-desktop first?
[19:49] <ThePendulum> mystblade9: Why don't you just go about installing Xubuntu 12.10?
[19:49] <rinzler> does anybody know how to get chrome playback audio into some sort of recording software like audacity?
[19:49] <mystblade9> ThePendulum: No DVD-R's available in the moment.
[19:49] <mystblade9> at the momet*
[19:49] <ThePendulum> rinzler: Record your soundcard, it can be configured as an input in Audacity
[19:49] <ThePendulum> mystblade9: No flash drives either?
[19:50] <mystblade9> ThePendulum: I do have flash drives. I misread your reply though, I could install Xubuntu 12.10 but want to try out the new Unity.
[19:51] <ThePendulum> mystblade9: If you just want to try it out, I'd recommend trying it in a VM or just using the live CD. I don't think Xfce will be still fully intact after an upgrade.
[19:51] <ThePendulum> Then again, I'm speaking out of nothing but assumption.
[19:51] <rinzler> ThePendulum: what should I look for to find the right device?
[19:51] <isoplast661> jrib, im sorry if it is stupid but he wont let me save the changes in the file...
[19:52] <jrib> isoplast661: use this command to edit: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:53] <ThePendulum> rinzler: Usually something with your motherboard brand in it, unless you're using an external card
[19:53] <ThePendulum> In the name, that is
[19:53] <ThePendulum> I'd have to see the list
[19:53] <ShinyObjects> Ah - turns out my iPod Touch is 2nd gen, so no problem there.  I hit initialize and it takes a second then says it can't initialize the iPod because of a missing hashInfo
[19:53] <ShinyObjects> no idea what that is
[19:53] <ShinyObjects> Anyone run into this before?
[19:53] <Bombo> how do i get rid of the 'do you want to test ubuntu or install' and 'select language' window when ubuntu 12.10 boots up? i 'installed' it on a usbstick already
[19:54] <rinzler> ThePendulum: so I'm looking for the card name. (pcmcia card
[19:54] <rinzler> )
[19:54] <ThePendulum> Bombo: Remove the installation medium or don't boot that? You really shouldn't get those options when you're booting an installed Ubuntu.
[19:55] <ThePendulum> rinzler: I usually try them all, hehe
[19:55] <rinzler> ThePendulum: fair enough. :P I'm just glad it's possible
[19:55] <Bombo> ThePendulum: it is installed on the usbstick
[19:55] <mystblade9> ThePendulum: Currently using Xfce 4.10 from a PPA, will that cause any trouble when I upgrade to Xubuntu 12.10?
[19:55] <ThePendulum> Bombo: On the same USB stick that had the installation file on it?
[19:56] <Bombo> ThePendulum: with Universal USB Installer
[19:56] <isoplast661> jrib he says that the package debhelper cannot be found
[19:56] <ThePendulum> mystblade9: I can imagine you might have to reinstall that and everything associated. It's a risk, for sure.
[19:56] <isoplast661> when i update the build-dep
[19:56] <Bombo> ThePendulum: installed it on windows
[19:57] <Bombo> ThePendulum: Universal USB Installer/windows -> usbstick -> put into other computer, boot
[19:58] <Chamunks> can i apt-get purge apport or is that going to break things.
[19:58] <Chamunks> I hate how it reminds me of windows.
[19:58] <ThePendulum> Bombo: I think you just put the installer on that USB stick and haven't actually installed it anywhere
[19:59] <jrib> isoplast661: pastebin your current sources.list
[19:59] <ThePendulum> I'm as well getting that apport message all the time for no apparent reason
[19:59] <ThePendulum> Sorry, Ubuntu 12.04 has experienced an internal error! Well, that's great, but I have absolutely no idea as of where to find that error and it isn't bothering me, leave me alone.
[19:59] <OerHeks> Chamunks, just disable it at boot > http://askubuntu.com/questions/93457/how-do-i-enable-or-disable-apport
[20:00] <Chamunks> OerHeks, thanks i've never been so annoyed about something as I have with error reporting nags.
[20:00] <Bombo> ThePendulum: it worked with 12.04, i booted, no questions
[20:00] <Chamunks> Gives me horrible memories of the windows days when I didnt know any better.
[20:00] <isoplast661> http://pastebin.com/Hbhmswtj
[20:00] <isoplast661> jrib http://pastebin.com/Hbhmswtj
[20:00] <Aethelred> I'm having video trouble. Running Lucid. Old video card died (seemingly). Was 8800GTS. Bought new card:  GTX 550 Ti. Machine boots, but it doesn't seem to allow resolutions above 1280x1024. I can't tell what driver is running. I need help getting sorting out driver/card issues.
[20:00] <OerHeks> you can also enable within the bug-report not to repeat the same application
[20:00] <jrib> isoplast661: i said to copy the lines, now you have no deb lines...
[20:01] <donofrio> wanting to reload my desktop with ubuntu but cannot till I get triplehead working on parhella along with WINE support for MagicJack (the one that plugs into machine...)
[20:01] <Bombo> ThePendulum: no way to manually disable that stuff? everything else seems to work
[20:02] <ThePendulum> Bombo: Not sure about that, sorry
[20:02] <Bombo> ThePendulum: hmkay
[20:02] <isoplast661> jrib, so basically copy and paste the same again but this time again without the src? like it was at the beginning?
[20:02] <Aethelred> Perhaps I need help asking a better question.
[20:02] <jrib> isoplast661: yep
[20:03] <thebwt> howdy! I need to use ufw to block http/https access for a contest we're hosting. But we need to be able to access a specific site for submissions. Any idea how to make ufw do that?
[20:04] <ThePendulum> Aethelred: Ask about how one can assure that everything they see and everyone they know isn't a projection of one's own mind.
[20:04] <rinzler> ThePendulum: got it working perfectly! Thanks for the help!
[20:05] <Aethelred> ThePendulum: I've already sorted that out for myself. Solipsism was easy compared to dumpster-diving the video infrastructure of Ubuntu.
[20:06] <donofrio> Matrox Parhella - anyone have any working suggestions (its a triple head output card....) any thoughts on how to make it work with 12.10 (or should I mean make 12.10 work corretcly with the Parhella)
[20:06] <ctjctj> I recently upgraded to 12.10 from 12.04.  At this point i'm having problems with totem.  It is very jerky.  Looking at top I see that X.org is consuming >75%.  Under 12.04 it was not noticable at all.  Compiz is often consuming vast amounts of cpu.  The dash flickers as I try to type in search patterns.  Any suggestions on how to get this system back to the responsiveness I had under 12.04?
[20:08] <isoplast661> jrib, thanks a lot! it seems to work... at least he is now compiling... I will keep you updated if it works
[20:09] <jrib> isoplast661: cool
[20:09] <childsb> i deleted a logical volume from a volume group, and ever since then my ubuntu server (12.04) "freezes" for 60-90 seconds.  is there some config file i need to remove that logical volume from ((created it by accident during install)). i don't see anything in /etc/fstab
[20:11] <Aethelred> ThePendulum: Maybe you could suggest some other place I could look for help.
[20:12] <ThePendulum> Aethelred: There's no driver suggested by Ubuntu?
[20:13] <isoplast661> jrib, thanks a lot man... it installed but it still doesnt work... it wont react when i do something with three fingers
[20:15] <jrib> isoplast661: ok, I don't know about that.  Have you checked the synaptics wiki?
[20:15] <jrib> !synaptics | isoplast661
[20:15] <amites> Any ideas why I wouldn't be able to get libjpeg to be recognized by php/gd under Ubuntu 12.04?? Says JPEG suppoer enabled but libjpeg version unknown -- have removed and re-installed all php libraries and verified libjpeg is available under /usr/lib by symlinking since Ubuntu started doing weird things with the 32/64 libraries -- phpinfo output: http://pastie.org/5120549
[20:15] <donofrio> Matrox Parhella - anyone have any working suggestions (its a triple head output card....) any thoughts on how to make it work with 12.10 (or should I mean make 12.10 work corretcly with the Parhella)
[20:16] <Aethelred> ThePendulum: No. It "works", but I don't know how to tell what it's using. I thought the proprietary drivers were available, but System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers   says that there are no proprietary drivers on the system.
[20:16] <isoplast661> jrib, yes read it... two finger scrolling is also working without problems... just three finger gestures dont seem to work
[20:16] <Aethelred> ThePendulum: The last thing I want to do is bollocks it up, so I came here for expert advice.
[20:17] <Aethelred> ThePendulum: ... cuz this is where all the experts are, right?
[20:17] <childsb> the experts usually become experts by bollocks'ing it up a few times
[20:17] <ctjctj> Aethelred, Just went through this.  Go to system settings on the off/on switch upper left corner of your screen.  Go to system in the settings and select "software sources".  There is now a tab for "additional drivers"
[20:18] <ctjctj> Aethelred, The definition of an "expert" is the guy two pages ahead of you in the text book.
[20:18] <Aethelred> childsb: indeed. and I've been that guy. But I was hoping to just get past it this time.
[20:19] <Aethelred> ctjctj: I don't see that. This is Lucid.
[20:19] <query_query> ./join #scripting
[20:19] <ctjctj> Sorry, 12.10 is the one messing with me right now.
[20:20] <ThePendulum> Aethelred: This is where a lot of experts and a LOT of other Ubuntu users are. And not everyone who is an expert on Ubuntu is one on every single topic. I, for one, am not very informed about graphics drivers but I know quite a bit about other things.
[20:21] <Aethelred> ctjctj: ThePendulum: Yeah, I hear ya. I have deep knowledge and experience in some areas. I'm noob-a-licious in others.
[20:22] <ThePendulum> Aethelred: For me, GPUs have always 'just worked' for me, so I don't know the solution to most worst-case-scenarios
[20:22] <ctjctj> Same boat as you are Aethelred.  I've got code in kernels, I've been programming unix since 1983.  I've written network software and GPU software.  I've written simulations and done DBA stuff.  And I can't figure out how come my system did a 25-50% slow down on an upgrade....
[20:23] <ctjctj> If it weren't for google I couldn't remember half of what I need to do my work...
[20:23] <query_query> Where can i go to get answers to php questions?
[20:23] <BluesKaj> Aethelred, , ThePendulum , depends on one's interests mostly where one's "expertise" lies
[20:23] <ctjctj> query_query, php might be answered in #php?
[20:24] <plustax> How do I install a tar.gz file? Im a noob. Im trying to install this gameboy advance emulator I downloaded.
[20:24] <query_query> plustax tar -xvf "filename"
[20:25] <ctjctj> plustax always start by looking in the software management software.  It is likely that what you found on the net is already available.
[20:25] <Xut> Hi guys, I removed the /etc/fonts/ directory by mistake. Any way to restore this?>
[20:25] <plustax> okay ill try that now
[20:25] <query_query> tar.gz is like a .zip file
[20:25] <plustax> ctjctj, where is that?
[20:25] <query_query> you've got to unzip it then configure it then install it... see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware
[20:25] <plustax> I dont have that software I dont think
[20:25] <ThePendulum> query_query: What about #php? :P
[20:25] <plustax> okay
[20:25] <BluesKaj> or unp file.gz
[20:25] <ctjctj> plus: dash-> software
[20:25] <query_query> ThePendulum /join #php isn't taking me anywhere :/
[20:26] <ctjctj> Click on "Ubuntu Software Center"
[20:26] <plustax> ctjctj, I couldnt find the emulator in there
[20:26] <Aethelred> ctjctj: damn, you're my bro for sure. I had a "slowdown" on an Ubuntu upgrade. Turned out that the upgrade process didn't care about my video config - it plonked me back to the "this is the baseline" settings. It was all framebuffered.
[20:27] <plustax> oh crap its in there lol
[20:27] <plustax> thanks
[20:27] <Xut> Hi guys, I removed the /etc/fonts/ directory by mistake. Any way to restore this?>
[20:27] <ctjctj> plustax, you are welcome.
[20:27] <ctjctj> xut: There is always a way.  For example, (sarcasm alert), you can wipe your drives and reinstall.
[20:28] <Xut> ctjctj: That is a windows way
[20:28] <Aethelred> Xut: use Synaptic to install a bunch of fonts. It will re-create the directories.
[20:28] <Chotaz> Hey everyone, I just installed ubuntu 12.10 on my laptop and switched from the open source drive to the nvidia-current drive via the system settings, and after reboot, my desktop is messed up, I can't see the whole desktop and I don't know what I can do to fix this.
[20:28] <ctjctj> xut: and I'm pretty sure apt has a repair method but I don't remember.
[20:28] <Xut> Aethelred: Thanks. Will try
[20:28] <Chotaz> on my desktop*
[20:28] <query_query> ok well maybe someone here can help me.... i am throwing an "undefined_index" error in a php script when i try to $_GET['username']
[20:29] <Chotaz> query_query: #php maybe
[20:29] <ctjctj> query_query, that means that the key "username' does not exists in _GET
[20:29] <slave_of_God> Hey guys
[20:29] <query_query> Chotaz I have to be invited to #php?
[20:30] <slave_of_God> I'm not sure whether you can help me, but does anyone know something about a GUI used in terminal?
[20:30] <Chotaz> query_query: no, just /j ##php
[20:30] <ctjctj> query_query, is your nickname registered?
[20:30] <slave_of_God> Starts with two letters
[20:30] <slave_of_God> i'd love to install it
[20:30] <query_query> ctjctj no, i have to register it
[20:30] <Aethelred> Xut: I have never found a convenient way to manage fonts. I just get the .ttf or .otf files, and put them in the proper directories from the command line.
[20:30] <ctjctj> query_query, lots of #rooms don't allow unregistered nicks.
[20:30] <slave_of_God> cm or ms or something
[20:30] <Xut> Aethelred: I have fonts. But the config for the rendering is empty
[20:30] <query_query> ctjctj so how do I register?
[20:31] <ctjctj> slave_of_God, do you perhaps mean a file manager?
[20:31] <ctjctj> query_query, /msg nickserv help
[20:31] <query_query> thank you ctjctj
[20:31] <slave_of_God> ctjctj, yeah exactly
[20:31] <Xut> Aethelred: Installed some fonts but the /etc/fonts/ is still empty
[20:31] <RobOakes> Does anyone have any good ways to reinstall the most recent version of a package from a repository?
[20:32] <Xut> RobOakes: apt-get install --reinstall package
[20:32] <slave_of_God> ctjctj, what is it called, do you remember it?
[20:32] <ctjctj> ls
[20:32] <Chotaz> Can anyone help me with ubuntu 12.10 and a graphics driver problem?
[20:32] <RobOakes> I was testing a new version of Evolution (3.4) on 12.04  and now need to reinstall the most recent version from the stable repositories.
[20:32] <RobOakes> Xut: Is there a way to calculate what those might be?
[20:32] <Aethelred> Xut: oh... /etc/fonts/ is where the font config files go. ... ahh... hang on.
[20:32] <RobOakes> When I installed from the testing repo, it brought in a whole bunch of other crap.
[20:33] <BluesKaj> Chotaz,  which card and driver?
[20:33] <slave_of_God> ctjctj, ls? Can't install it :)
[20:33] <go_U_Linux> how can i customise my computer in ubuntu 10.04
[20:33] <ctjctj> Xut, dpkg -i --force-confmiss ??? is where google is leading.
[20:33] <RobOakes> I've removed the old repo and reloaded the lists, but the testing packages are still there.
[20:33] <gglmilion>  
[20:33] <RobOakes> old repo should be testing repo.
[20:33] <gglmilion> k
[20:33] <Erik_D> Xut: did you try ~/.fonts
[20:33] <gglmilion> l
[20:33] <FloodBot1> gglmilion: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:33] <gglmilion> l
[20:33] <ctjctj> slave_of_God, *grins* I hope that's a smile at the end.  ls/rm/mv
[20:34] <gglmilion> sorry
[20:34] <Chotaz> BluesKaj: I have a GeForce 9600GT, I just finished fresh installing ubuntu 12.10 and went to the system settings to switch from the open-source driver to the one that corresponds to nvidia-current because the fans were at 100%.
[20:34] <slave_of_God> ctjctj, yes it is a smile LOL
[20:34] <Chotaz> BluesKaj: after I restarted the computer I see a small square of my desktop in the middle off the screen and all the rest is black, I can't even see the unity bar.
[20:34] <slave_of_God> ctjctj, im pretty a newbie - ls/rm/mv? can't i Just sudo apt-get install ls?
[20:34] <Xut> Aethelred: Not really working. Will check google
[20:35] <home-horim> hi, how can i make this? http://www.newsrssticker.com/images/tickr-extra-screenshot1.png  i've an article but still need more help
[20:35] <ctjctj> Chotaz, upper right corner, off/on button.  select system settings, go to system, select "software sources" go to "additional drivers"
[20:35] <home-horim> this is the beggining of how to make it: http://askubuntu.com/questions/143219/how-to-run-multiple-instances-of-tickr
[20:36] <Chotaz> ctjctj: the mouse won't go beyong whats visible on the monitor.
[20:36] <ctjctj> slave_of_God, ls == dir, rm==delete, mv==move  They are the command line commands to work with your files.  Oh, and "cd" for change directory.
[20:36] <gordonjcp> slave_of_God: mc?
[20:36] <gordonjcp> slave_of_God: like Midnight Commander?
[20:36] <Xut> apt-get install --reinstall -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" package it should be :)
[20:36] <slave_of_God> ctjctj, nevermind :-) I was looking for mc
[20:36] <ctjctj> Xut, thanks for completing the google.
[20:36] <Chotaz> ctjctj: I can see a small square with my desktop wallpaper in it then all the rest of the monitor is black I can't see any bars nor the unity launcher.
[20:37] <ctjctj> slave_of_God, I was being very sarcastic.
[20:37] <slave_of_God> gordonjcp, yeah :-) That's it thanks
[20:37] <EpsilonRose> Hi, would anybody mind helping me get a netgear wna3100 wirless usb adaptor working on a fresh-ish install of 12.10 (I've already tried setting it up, so I have wine and ndiswraper installed, but that's it)?
[20:37] <slave_of_God> ctjctj, didn't work for you :)
[20:37] <Xut> ctjctj: Sorry?
[20:37] <home-horim> anyone?
[20:38] <ctjctj> Chotaz, you are going to need to go to a command line/terminal.  Then go to /etc/X11 and use a text editor to modify xorg.conf
[20:38] <slave_of_God> i <3 this channel
[20:38] <Chotaz> BluesKaj: ctjctj My approach would be to try and fix this from the command line (CTRL+ALT+F6) only I have no clue what to do.
[20:38] <ctjctj> Chotaz, oh thank goodness, not a noobe
[20:38] <Xut> darnit still not working
[20:39] <bobbyd3_> \quit
[20:39] <ctjctj> Chotaz, go to cli, go super, ps ax | grep X and kill it.  You might have to use service to kill gdm or whatever it is called in this version of ubuntu.
[20:39] <plustax> one more question. Is there any way I can watch netflix?
[20:39] <Chotaz> ctjctj: yeah I've been using ubuntu for some time now, not as extensively as some, but I know my ways around it, I've never had this problem with my graphics card, since 8.10 when I started using ubuntu.
[20:39] <home-horim> can anyone tell me how do i color them and space them and make them full screen and running well?
[20:39] <slave_of_God> Does anyone know any cool stuff you can install on ubuntu?
[20:39] <plustax> Is there some sort of workaround for their absurd block on linux users?
[20:39] <ctjctj> Once X is killed use the X with the configure option to create the xorg.cong in /etc/X11
[20:40] <ctjctj> Edit that to your hearts content.
[20:40] <ctjctj> default open source use to be nv.
[20:40] <BluesKaj> Chotaz, do you have the nvidia GUI , alt+F2 , nvidia-settings ?
[20:41] <Chotaz> BluesKaj: yes I have nvidia settings
[20:41] <ctjctj> once you've got X running again you can then use the nvidia settings and additional drivers as described earlier.
[20:41] <Aethelred> Xut: the files in conf.d and conf.avail are config files for fontconfig.  I'd try reinstalling fontconfig to recreate them.
[20:41] <ctjctj> (been here, done that, didn't even get the t-shirt)
[20:41] <plustax> can anyone help me? How can I possibly watch netflix on ubuntu??
[20:41] <Chotaz> BluesKaj: but I cant see anything on the graphical interface
[20:41] <Xut> Aethelred: I did reinstall fontconfig and libfreetype6
[20:42] <ctjctj> plustax, no help for that as far as I've learned.
[20:42] <BluesKaj> Chotaz, is there no setting for resolution?
[20:42] <plustax> damnnn
[20:42] <plustax> good thing i dual booted
[20:43] <Chotaz> ctjctj: I tried to kill -9 the X process number, returned operation not permitted
[20:43] <Carleeno> Hi guys! I'm looking at setting up in-house web hosting, ftp, SOGo (for exchange), quickbooks db, and samba (as active dir) on ubuntu server; and I was wondering what problem I might run into running all those services on 1 (high power) machine? Do some of those services need to be split up?
[20:43] <ctjctj> sudo
[20:44] <MonkeyDust> Carleeno  there's also #ubuntu-server
[20:44] <Chotaz> ctjctj: ahah, login screen is here
[20:44] <gordonjcp> Carleeno: how high is high?
[20:44] <Carleeno> sorry, thanks
[20:44] <BluesKaj> Chotaz, there is one thing to try , remove nvidia-current , and use the nouveau driver instead
[20:45] <gordonjcp> Carleeno: that should be fine on pretty much any machine, depending on how hard you're hitting it
[20:45] <Carleeno> well, quad core 2.3 16gb ram, not that high, but we're a small biz
[20:46] <Xut> Aethelred: men... its: fontconfig-config package not fontconfig ...
[20:47] <Xut> Who comes up with that :)
[20:47] <henkye> evening, USB passthrough in KVM is only USB 1.1 ?
[20:47] <home-horim> how can i hide the menus in ubuntu?
[20:47] <Aethelred> Xut: I hear ya.
[20:48] <Xut> Aethelred: Thanks for the help :)
[20:48] <Aethelred> Xut: so you're all set?
[20:48] <Xut> Aethelred: Yep, everything is back to normal
[20:48] <gglmilion> hi
[20:48] <bs> how to get the last security and software updates for my ubuntu without update manager
[20:48] <Aethelred> Xut: gl
[20:48] <EpsilonRose> Right, let's see if I can word that better this time. I'm currently trying to get my netgear wna 3100 wireless usb adaptor to work. So far, I've installed ndiswraper-1.58rc1 and used wine to install netgear's drivers and get the .inf file. I got it to see the network, but when I try to join it just keeps asking me for the pasword. Would someone be willing to help me fix this?
[20:49] <jiffe98> anyone know if ubuntu is ever planning on reinstating their certification program?
[20:49] <Aethelred> Well, I stuck a wrench in the files, closed my eyes, and banged it around for a bit. Time to reboot.
[20:50] <Aethelred> wish me luck.
[20:50] <home-horim> i hope that in the forums they might help with the ticker
[20:50] <Raving2000> mimuny
[20:52] <SolarisB1y> bs: apt-get upgrade will install upgrades. You can create special files and use specific options on the command line to do something like seperate security updates from others
[20:52] <SolarisB1y> by default it just installs them all afaik
[20:52] <aptosid> ok... that crap ubuntu dosnt even let me boot in recoverymode... no chance to use apt-get...
[20:52] <Chotaz> BluesKaj: I'm still with the problem I cant see mst of my desktop
[20:53] <BluesKaj> EpsilonRose, what's your password for the wifi interface fo the router in WEP or WPA settings?
[20:53] <EpsilonRose> WPA
[20:53] <bs> SolarisB1y, how to use that command
[20:54] <bs> SolarisB1y, bs@bs-desktop:~$ apt-get upgrade
[20:54] <bs> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
[20:54] <bs> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[20:55] <SolarisB1y> bs: use sudo for these commands 'sudo apt-get update'  'sudo apt-get upgrade'
[20:55] <Jeran_Linux> ok, so i JUST got a ubuntu computer. still kinda setting everything up.
[20:57] <BluesKaj> EpsilonRose, should be set in network manager if you setup a wifi password depending on whether you used wep or wpa encryption
[20:59] <ls612> I bought a computer in the summer that qualified for the Windows Upgrade Offer, and now I dual boot it with win7 and Ubuntu. Would that cause any issues with the upgrade process? I asked this in the Windows channel and they said to try asking here.
[20:59] <BusyBoxes> ls612: No, not unless you did not have enough space in the partition.
[21:00] <grol> ls612: Upgrade to Win8?
[21:00] <EpsilonRose> BluesKaj, it already is, but when it tries to connect it just cycles the wireless grarphic for a bit and then there's a notification telling me it's disconnected and it asks for the password again.
[21:01] <ls612> grol: Maybe. I'm still waiting to see what my friends think of it, I've heard both good and bad about it.
[21:01] <BusyBoxes> ls612: You shouldn't have a problem upgrading from windows 7 to windows 8 on the same partition unless your running low on space.
[21:02] <BusyBoxes> EpsilonRose: Try manually connecting to the wifi network.
[21:02] <BusyBoxes> EpsilonRose: using iwlist etc.
[21:03] <ls612> Well that isn't an issue, my windows partition has 500 gigs. The issue I see is that Windows hates GRUB and may not interact well with it in the upgrade process. I could delete my Ubuntu partition, back everything up, and reinstall afterwards, but that would be a pain.
[21:03] <grol> ls612: IF your computer has uefi instead of bios it will be critical. And updating windows will harm your boot-sector - critical to
[21:03] <BusyBoxes> ls612: It's on a different partition your not upgrading on the ubuntu partition.
[21:03] <DX099> hello, I have a problem... after having update that I thing updated some graphic related libraries, I'm no more able to launch gnome-shell (12.10, was working "quite" fine before). http://paste.ubuntu.com/1308175/. Can s.o. help me ?
[21:03] <ls612> grol: I got my comp in July, it still uses BIOS.
[21:04] <BluesKaj> EpsilonRose, is ndiswrapper necessary , is there no native linux module/driver for that wifi chip ?
[21:04] <grol> ls612: OK -take care of your boot-sector. Windows dislikes additonal OSes
[21:04] <BusyBoxes> BluesKaj: Make sure he's able to connect to the wifi network on another node. It could be a DHCP issue.
[21:05] <home-horim> whydon't you assist me?
[21:05] <BluesKaj> BusyBoxes, well ,tell him , not me
[21:05] <EpsilonRose> BluesKaj, to my knowlege there are none. All of the guides I saw seemed to require it, but they were also a bit old so that might not be the  case any more. how would I check?
[21:07] <trism> DX099: strange, maybe try: sudo apt-get install --reinstall libgl1-mesa-dri;
[21:07] <grol> ls612: my comp is from Jan. 2011 and has UEFI - terrible
[21:08] <EpsilonRose> BusyBoxes, I can get on the wifi with my other computer if that's what you mean. If it isn't, then I'm afraid you've gone a bit over my head and you'll have to tell me how to check.
[21:09] <franci> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:upubuntu-com/chat sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install skype
[21:10] <SolarisB1y> franci: you'll need some semicolons delimiting those commands no?
[21:12] <OerHeks> franci, same version as partner repo 4.0.0.8
[21:12] <ageis> anyone know about these errors
[21:13] <ageis> $ dhclient eth0 / ifup eth0
[21:13] <ageis> RTNETLINK answers: Cannot assign requested address
[21:13] <ageis> $ route add default gw 10.0.1.1
[21:13] <ageis> SIOCADDRT: No such process
[21:13] <FloodBot1> ageis: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:13] <DX099> trism, thanks
[21:13] <ageis> sry
[21:13] <trism> DX099: did it help?
[21:15] <redamber> When ubuntu server 12.10 installation I get an error saying "Failed to mount cd rom after detecting it" Any help please?
[21:16] <DX099> trism, yes it help me spotting the problem, after looking at the package version, I understood it was coming from some troublesome ppa
[21:16] <jackarg> hello?
[21:16] <DX099> it seems it was reactivated with legit ppas since I upgraded, whereas I wanted it disabled. And for good reasons it seems.
[21:16] <jackarg> i would like to know how to submit wallpapers so they might be included in ubuntu
[21:17] <redamber> !join
[21:17] <jayandsilentb0b> hey
[21:18] <Side> hey people
[21:18] <trism> jackarg: there is usually a wallpaper contest for the new version, although it may not be a while before the raring one starts
[21:18] <jayandsilentb0b> hello
[21:19] <Side> Quit
[21:19] <Side> penis
[21:20] <Side> penisВё
[21:20] <jackarg> trism: when would it be?
[21:20] <DJones> Side: Stop that
[21:20] <Side> ok, just wanted some attention
[21:21] <ghuy> nhvjkbbvn
[21:21] <gordonjcp> Side: that will get you some attention you don't want
[21:21] <SolarisB1y> lmao
[21:21] <Side> just trying dude, sorry bout that
[21:22] <EpsilonRose> BluesKaj, I've never tried to use iwconfig before so I don't know if I did it right, but the terminal seems to be hanging on BluesKaj.
[21:22] <trism> jackarg: usually 2 or 3 months after the dev starts, so I would guess around January (that's when the 12.04 one started)
[21:23] <jackarg> ok
[21:23] <jackarg> trism: thanks
[21:23] <grol> gordonjcp: whats the problem with penis?
[21:23] <herol3oy_> hello everyones. Now i have a SEVEN WINDOWS,, i'm just wondering if i install ubuntu i'll lose the boot menu of window????
[21:23] <trism> jackarg: there also appears to be an #ubuntu-artwork channel, may have more info if anyone is there
[21:24] <gordonjcp> grol: it's not an ubuntu support issue
[21:24] <grol> herol3oy_: Ubuntu on Win is ok, but viceversa not
[21:25] <herol3oy_> grol: thanks..so i'll install ubuntu on my windows as soon as possible!
[21:25] <grol> gordonjcp: yep!
[21:25] <bearly230> Problem installing Ubuntu 12.04 (Not dual boot)  on HP Pavilion HPE h8-1234, I can boot to the live cd, and can run gparted to partition the drive. However when I go to install it does not recognize any of the partions.
[21:27] <grol> bye
[21:27] <EpsilonRose> BluesKaj, Now this Netgear Genie thing is poping up, curtasy of wine, and when I click next on it it say my adaptor can't be found.
[21:29] <arun_> I lost around 70 GB data while doing cut paste in Nautilus. Seems like a Bug. Any Suggestions ?
[21:29] <BluesKaj> EpsilonRose, It's been a while since I used ndiswrpper , but I don't recall having to use wine to enable the .inf file .. try sudo modprobe BCM43231
[21:29] <marcus> any1 know how to get wineasio running ? i dont see it in audio list.. :{
[21:31] <bearly230> Problem installing Ubuntu 12.04 (Not dual boot)  on a new HP Pavilion HPE h8-1234, I can boot to the live cd, and can run gparted to partition the drive. However when I go to install it does not recognize any of the partions.
[21:31] <zerowaitstate> well, depending on whether you are doing GRUB or UEFI boot
[21:32] <zerowaitstate> sorry, I meant BIOS or UEFI
[21:32] <zerowaitstate> the secure boot thing breaks GRUB, so you have to get the Windows bootloader to chain-load GRUB
[21:33] <bearly230> I've disabled UEFI in the bios, I just want a single install of ubuntu not a dual boot.
[21:33] <EpsilonRose> BluesKaj, technically you don't need wine. I just used it to get the .inf file out of the .exe (rather than installing it on an other computer or find the files online). That command resulted in "FATAL: Module BCM43231 not found."
[21:33] <zerowaitstate> so you're using MBR partitions?
[21:34] <bearly230> Trying to, same issue if I boot with or without uefi.
[21:35] <bearly230> Boot cd see's the partitions I created, but it won't install or overwrite the drive during the installation.
[21:35] <BluesKaj> ok EpsilonRose , ndiswrapper is supposed to work with .inf file inside it's "wrapper" so to speak
[21:36] <zerowaitstate> did you get rid of the existing partitions?
[21:37] <bearly230> zerowaitstate: yes I removed all partitions, and created new ones when the installer wouldn't create any. Do I need to zero the drive.
[21:37] <arun_> Can ntfsundelete restore files lost during cut paste ?
[21:38] <BluesKaj> EpsilonRose, try this command , sudo ifconfig wlan0 up ..pastebin the output pls.
[21:38] <zerowaitstate> when you open gparted from the live cd, are your new partitions still there?
[21:38] <arun_> :q
[21:39] <bearly230> zero: yes all the partitions I created are there.
[21:39] <quidnunc> Can someone suggest how I should resolve these dependency conflicts? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1308243/
[21:39] <BluesKaj> EpsilonRose, if there are no errors ,then run , sudo iwlist wlan0 scan|grep -i essid
[21:39] <EpsilonRose> BluesKaj, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1308246/
[21:40] <zerowaitstate> are you able to mount them from the livecd?
[21:40] <zerowaitstate> e.g., is there a filesystem on the file partition?
[21:40] <EpsilonRose> BluesKaj, all that gave me was ESSID:"Kalivas"
[21:40] <bearly230> zero: the live cd will let me go to the drives so they mount without a problem.
[21:41] <bearly230> zero: I have a swap, boot, /, and home partitions (boot, /, and home all use ext4)
[21:41] <EpsilonRose> BluesKaj, I was under the impression that you got the .inf file into ndiswraper via the -i command.
[21:41] <zerowaitstate> so, the files are on the partition, but the system will not boot from those partitions
[21:41] <BluesKaj> EpsilonRose, but does it connect ?
[21:42] <Kyle__> is /etc/lightdm/users.conf still the way to hide users from being displayed in the login screen?
[21:42] <bearly230> zero: the install never gets to the point of partitioning, and it will not see the partitions I've created.
[21:42] <ubuntu> hi
[21:42] <ubuntu> im on nexus 7 runni g ubuntu
[21:43] <bearly230> zero: I get to the point that it shows the drive, just no partitions. And it will not allow me to create any.
[21:43] <BluesKaj> EpsilonRose, I assume you follwed a tutorial somewhere similar to this , http://askubuntu.com/questions/48563/could-anyone-help-me-get-my-netgear-wna3100-broadcom-bcm43231-wireless-adapter
[21:44] <Guest96505> im on nexus 7 runni g ubuntu
[21:44] <Guest96505> it sux
[21:44] <Guest96505> slow
[21:44] <Guest96505> it is no good
[21:46] <EpsilonRose> BluesKaj, What do you mean? Should that last command have connected my wireless?
[21:46] <systems7> test
[21:46] <systems7> test
[21:46] <EpsilonRose> BluesKaj, It was similar, but there was only one .inf file and it neglected to include the portion with the restart.
[21:46] <zerowaitstate> bearly230: what error message do you get when you tell it to erase the drive and install ubuntu?
[21:46] <Guest96505> nexus7 ubunru
[21:47] <wachpwnski> Is there any way to got the current progress of a move ?
[21:47] <Guest96505> n3xusy7
[21:47] <Tex_Nick> Guest96505 : just out of curosity, how did you do that ?
[21:47] <systems7> i have invoked console though serial port on ubuntu server 12.04. but once the login comes up via terminal i can't type anything. Whats wrong? please help?
[21:47] <BluesKaj> EpsilonRose,only if the right driver is installed in ndiswrapper
[21:47] <romnesia> Tex_Nick there's a new launchpad project for it
[21:48] <Tex_Nick> romnesia : ahhh that's cool ... thanks for the info
[21:48] <hallofick> o/
[21:48] <romnesia> Tex_Nick: http://www.jonobacon.org/2012/10/26/ubuntu-core-on-the-nexus-7/
[21:48] <systems7> o/
[21:48] <bearly230> zero: no error message just doesn't show any partitions
[21:49] <systems7> i have invoked console though serial port on ubuntu server 12.04. but once the login comes up via terminal i can't type anything. Whats wrong? please help?
[21:49] <EpsilonRose> BluesKaj, Right. I'd try the one in the guide you linked me, but their linke seems to be broken.
[21:49] <romnesia> systems7 what are you connecting your serial to ?
[21:49] <systems7> serial header to an rj45 jack
[21:49] <[twisti]> hi, im following this advice: http://www.frederikkonietzny.de/2012/08/how-to-install-gitolite-and-git-web-on-ubuntu-12-04/ and im wondering: what exactly is my public ssh key, and how would i go about getting one ?
[21:49] <systems7> then using a console cable
[21:50] <systems7> everything works but i can't type anything
[21:50] <romnesia> systems7 to. ...? a switch/router?
[21:50] <systems7> controller
[21:50] <systems7> WAP controller running unbuntu server
[21:50] <romnesia> well what terminal mode are you using?
[21:50] <gordonjcp> [twisti]: read up on ssh-keygen
[21:51] <vitimiti> o/
[21:51] <systems7> im using hyper terinal 115200 8N1
[21:51] <zerowaitstate> there is another option called "something else".  Does it show any available devices?
[21:51] <Tex_Nick> romnesia : i'm thinking about getting the 2 grandkids a nexus 7  ... hey thanks
[21:51] <romnesia> Tex_Nick I'll let you know how it goes, I'm actually in the process of doing it on my nexus 7 right now
[21:51] <systems7> i can view ubuntu boot up via the console port, but i can't type anything
[21:51] <romnesia> systems7 ah, this helps paint a picture
[21:52] <bearly230> zero: I get the drop down for drives, but only shows the 1 drive. ( I only have the 1 hard drive ).
[21:52] <BluesKaj> EpsilonRose, the link in the tutorial is just for the driver which you already have , the tutorial is for installing and enabling the inf file
[21:52] <systems7> i think it has to do with read/write permissions
[21:52] <zerowaitstate> ok, what shows above the hard drive.  what is after /dev  ?
[21:52] <gordonjcp> [twisti]: basically you can generate a pair of keys for encryption, one of which you keep secret and one of which you can disseminate widely
[21:52] <BluesKaj> EpsilonRose, mostly a guide
[21:52] <romnesia> systems7 when it boots, are you even getting a login prompt?
[21:52] <[twisti]> gordonjcp: do you understand from the context of that site what the identification IS FOR ?
[21:52] <systems7> yes
[21:53] <systems7> i get the login prompt
[21:53] <gordonjcp> [twisti]: yes
[21:53] <Tex_Nick> romnesia ... I'd love to hear how it goes ;-)
[21:53] <[twisti]> is it like, the users i want to be able to log on the git server ?
[21:53] <systems7> but i can't type
[21:53] <bearly230> zero: it just shows /dev/sda
[21:53] <[twisti]> or is it the system users ?
[21:53] <gordonjcp> [twisti]: that's it exactly
[21:53] <gordonjcp> [twisti]: if you wanted me to access your server, you'd ask me for my public key
[21:53] <[twisti]> ah, i see
[21:53] <gordonjcp> everyone can have my public key
[21:53] <bearly230> zero: that's only for the boot loader. Doesn't display any other options.
[21:53] <romnesia> systems7: kinda looks like this ticket http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1166940
[21:53] <[twisti]> thanks
[21:54] <zerowaitstate> bearly230: so it's not showing any partitions in the box above?
[21:54] <gordonjcp> [twisti]: the trick is, the keys work in pairs and if you encrypt with one you must decrypt with the other
[21:54] <bearly230> zero: correct
[21:54] <gordonjcp> [twisti]: imagine a cashbox you can only lock with one key and unlock with a different key
[21:54] <zerowaitstate> what happens when you click "new partition table"?
[21:54] <[twisti]> oh for gods sake, i just want to commit a ten line source file
[21:54] <[twisti]> this seems a bit overengineered
[21:54] <bearly230> zero: nothing just like the option is disabled.
[21:55] <systems7> yes it does look like that ticket
[21:55] <gordonjcp> [twisti]: what are you committing it to?
[21:55] <systems7> but theres no anwser
[21:55] <zerowaitstate> bearly230: does it show "free space" below /dev/sda?
[21:55] <romnesia> systems7 I haven't run into that personally, but ping my name if you still need someone to bounce ideas off
[21:55] <gordonjcp> [twisti]: or rather, what exactly are you trying to do here?
[21:55] <[twisti]> gordonjcp: the git server that hopefully ill have running by the end of that advice
[21:55] <[twisti]> to set up a git server
[21:55] <gordonjcp> [twisti]: right
[21:56] <gordonjcp> [twisti]: well, if you're connecting to remote servers via SSH you probably want to be using sshkeys anyway
[21:56] <EpsilonRose> BluesKaj, Ok. In that case the only difference was that I use the -i command to install the .inf instead of the gui and I haven't rebooted yet. Would you like me to try that now?
[21:56] <[twisti]> gordonjcp: for a very loose definition of 'want' :|
[21:56] <bearly230> zero: no free space no report of any kind. If I click on install now it reports no root file system is defined. Which makes since if it doesn't see any, and won't allow me to create any.
[21:56] <gordonjcp> [twisti]: yes, it's a pain in the backside right now, because it's all new, you don't understand it, and you can't see where it's useful
[21:57] <gordonjcp> [twisti]: stick with it and you'll see exactly why it's useful :-)
[21:57] <[twisti]> you know, if i turn off password login, and then end up unable to log back into my very remote server by the end of the night, im coming back here to yell at you
[21:57] <gordonjcp> ah, don't turn off password login
[21:57] <[twisti]> why not
[21:57] <[twisti]> it seems like the logical thing to do if im learning how to use sshkeys anyways
[21:58] <gordonjcp> because if you do that *and* make a pig's ear of installing your sshkeys, you'll lock yourself out of the remote server
[21:58] <gordonjcp> been there, done that
[21:58] <[twisti]> and theres like 10,000 brute force login attempts every day
[21:58] <gordonjcp> said lots of very rude words, many of which no-one within 100 miles of here have ever heard before
[21:58] <[twisti]> i think we actually have a recovery system
[21:58] <[twisti]> our isp is pretty awesome
[21:59] <[twisti]> not like im planning on using that tonight!
[21:59] <zerowaitstate> bearly230:  at the bottom, near "device for boot loader installation:" what is listed in the dropdown
[21:59] <bearly230> zero: Just /dev/sda
[21:59] <zerowaitstate> nothing after that?
[21:59] <bearly230> zero: nothing
[22:00] <zerowaitstate> okay, quit out of that and go to the livecd desktop
[22:01] <bearly230> zero: k there
[22:01] <zerowaitstate> run gparted from the livecd and go to View->Device Information
[22:01] <BluesKaj> BBL...stuff to do
[22:02] <bearly230> zero: ok got it up.
[22:02] <zerowaitstate> what does it show for partition table?
[22:02] <elvis4526> Hi, what is the channell for unity on the n7^
[22:02] <bearly230> zero: Partition Table shows msdos
[22:03] <elvis4526> What's the channel for unity on the nexus 7 &
[22:03] <zerowaitstate> what is the size of your disk?
[22:03] <bearly230> zero: 1tb
[22:03] <zerowaitstate> and the device is still /dev/sda?
[22:03] <bearly230> zero: yes
[22:06] <zerowaitstate> i'm assuming that you are seeing your partitions of course.  How weird
[22:06] <gogeta> elvis4526: lol nexus 7 does not have unity
[22:07] <bearly230> zero: yes I'm seeing them fine here.
[22:07] <elvis4526> gogeta: Yes, canonical released the process for installing ubuntu on it today
[22:07] <gogeta> elvis4526: i guess if you like vnc
[22:07] <elvis4526> Not
[22:07] <elvis4526> Google it
[22:07] <elvis4526> It's a real rootfs
[22:08] <elvis4526> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Nexus7/Installation
[22:08] <elvis4526> No vnc
[22:09] <gogeta> elvis4526: dam will that work for my nook tablet
[22:09] <vijith> do i have do use firmware interface to register Ubuntu keys when installing 12.10 on a secure boot enabled computer?
[22:09] <elvis4526> gogeta: Don't think so
[22:10] <elvis4526> gogeta: They made specific changes to packages so they work well with hardware of nexus 7
[22:10] <zerowaitstate> bearly230: try using the "create partition table" option from gparted, which should change everything to unallocated space.  Do not create your partitions, though.  Go to the install ubuntu program after that and let the installer create the partitions
[22:10] <gogeta> elvis4526: well they got display drivers something we lacked
[22:11] <javier_> jjj
[22:11] <javier_> yuyy
[22:11] <bearly230> zero: I've tried that, using gparted removed all partitions, and tried to install with it empty, still wouldn't allow me to create partitions and never an option on boot of the cd to use entire disk.
[22:11] <gogeta> elvis4526: yep they do got a nook tablet version
[22:12] <systems7> and it says dialout user group already exists?
[22:12] <gogeta> elvis4526: its in the xda devs
[22:12] <elvis4526> gogeta: Oh i did not know
[22:12] <chllily> exit
[22:12] <zerowaitstate> how much unallocated space did it give you?
[22:12] <elvis4526> gogeta: MS said that the nexus 7 would be the reference to test unity altough
[22:12] <bearly230> zero: nothing was allocated, no partitions of any kind.
[22:13] <zerowaitstate> i mean in gparted, when it showed you the partitions
[22:13] <gogeta> elvis4526: yea im shure other tablets will come later there just using nexus 7 becous its the current top seller
[22:13] <bearly230> zero: says 931gb unallocated
[22:14] <bearly230> zero: in gparted when its partitioned, there was none avial.
[22:14] <wachpwnski> why cant my newly created user access my samba share?
[22:15] <gogeta> elvis4526: but ill nver trust a tablet without a sdcard slot to recover a brick
[22:16] <Guest71702> hi, I installed ubuntu 12.10 and fglrx-updates and hello wallpaper no hello unity...any solution what to do?
[22:16] <Steelcased_Sambo> So I have a tech problem.
[22:16] <Steelcased_Sambo> Anyone willing to help a poor fool?
[22:16] <ardchoille> !ask | Steelcased_Sambo
[22:16] <Steelcased_Sambo> Ah.
[22:17] <elvis4526> !patience
[22:17] <nitin1> I was unable to get pidgin to integrate with the messaging menu after the upgrade to 12.10, can someone help ?
[22:17] <Steelcased_Sambo> O.k., so I tried Ubuntu, installed it, figured I just wanted to run it from an SD Card when desired... Used DBAN... Boot and Nuke... Then am TRYING to reinstall windows...
[22:17] <trism> nitin1: the port isn't finished yet to the new API
[22:18] <Steelcased_Sambo> But now there is a SYSLINUX partition on the startup that says "Can't find myself on the drive I booted from." --- Asking me to boot from SOMETHING. It apparently can't read the USB card.
[22:18] <zerowaitstate> bearly230: try this from a terminal window:  "sudo dmraid -r"
[22:18] <trism> nitin1: bug 1040259
[22:18] <Steelcased_Sambo> Err... SD Card. Sorry. Is there a means for me to boot from the SD card without DBAN'ing again?
[22:19] <nitin1> trism: thanks for the heads up, any idea about when we can expect it to work?
[22:20] <Tex_Nick> gogeta : can't ya use the nexus 7 micro-usb  with an sdcard adapter ?
[22:20] <bearly230> zero: I get /dev/sda: pdc, "pdc_bhafehh", stripe, ok 1953124992 sectors, data @ 0
[22:20] <zerowaitstate> aha!  you have a raid controller, or software raid
[22:21] <eddieduce> I need some help...
[22:21] <gogeta> Tex_Nick: probly
[22:21] <bearly230> zero: yes but as far as I know it's not / never has been used.
[22:21] <trism> nitin1: no idea
[22:22] <wachpwnski> With a samba share if I wish user1 to have access to the share, do they also have to have ownership of the directory?
[22:22] <eddieduce> ...Installed Ubuntu 12.10 on VMware 5.0 and the displayedmenus are crazy stretched...
[22:22] <eddieduce> ...resolution or theme changes will not fix it.
[22:22] <bearly230> zero: It's about 2 months old. Just been running win 7 since my wife got it.
[22:23] <zerowaitstate> bearly230:  do you only have one drive?
[22:23] <zerowaitstate> physical drive i mean
[22:23] <bearly230> zero: yes just 1 drive
[22:23] <adam_> Good evening people :-) I've just installed 12.10 on my main system and after installing one one of the propriety graphics drivers in the software sources 'section' after logging in compiz/Unity isn't loading up.  Any clues? Cheers :-)
[22:23] <nitin1> thanks trism
[22:24] <bearly230> zero: been trying to get the wife off windows for a long time, she finally consented, and now I have this issue with her computer. Go figure hehe
[22:24] <s73rm1n10> hola
[22:24] <eddieduce> I though I could avoid direct install but maybe not.
[22:25] <Steelcased_Sambo> No luck?
[22:25] <eddieduce> @s73## hi
[22:25] <eddieduce> @s73 hi
[22:25] <zerowaitstate> bearly230: yeah, I wonder if that RAID is ATA RAID
[22:25] <eddieduce> hasanyonehad this problem?
[22:26] <zerowaitstate> it is probably possible to disable the RAID in the bios
[22:26] <bearly230> zero: I'll check back in a couple mins
[22:27] <eddieduce> lostmy connection. anyone had this problem with ubuntu 12.10 display?
[22:28] <bearly230> zero: should I go for sata emulation achi or ide?
[22:28] <canoso> hi
[22:28] <eddieduce> anyone?
[22:29] <plustax> how do I take a screenshot in 12.10 I hit the prntscrn button and it does nothing.
[22:29] <zerowaitstate> ahci should be fine
[22:29] <plustax> I seemingly have to go to the screenshot app to do it and thats a pain
[22:29] <bearly230> zero: ok I'll go for that and let you know asap.
[22:30] <wachpwnski> Do I have to add new users to the sambashare group?
[22:30] <s73rm1n10> hola
[22:30] <eddieduce> hi
[22:30] <s73rm1n10> hola
[22:31] <s73rm1n10> soy de  venezuela
[22:31] <beandog> !es | s73rm1n10
[22:32] <s73rm1n10> ok gracias  lo  are
[22:32] <beandog> bueno :)
[22:34] <bearly230> zero: Dam same issue (
[22:34] <Andre_designer> hi i have install gnome and now have i  a triple menu(bar) do someone how to solve this problem??
[22:35] <zerowaitstate> okay, now what do you see when you run "sudo dmraid -r" ?
[22:36] <Jordan_U> bearly230: Could you also please pastebin the output of "sudo blkid"?
[22:36] <bearly230> zero: same thing.
[22:36] <Andre_designer> do you mean me??
[22:36] <bjrohan> Where does the Java JRE install on ubuntu?
[22:37] <bjrohan> Where does the Java JRE install on ubuntu? A tute I am following says /local/bin/Java, but I can not find it there. I know I have it b/c java -version gives me 1.7.0_09 IcedTea 7
[22:38] <doe> Recommended book for learning Ubuntu Administration
[22:39] <vijith> bjrohan: what does "which java" show?
[22:40] <bearly230> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/RuaYuYq7
[22:40] <bjrohan> thank you doe /usr/bin/java. I can not get a page to open in Chrome, says no java detected, on a site it is recommended I add a symlink to where java is in the chrome plugin directory
[22:41] <bjrohan> thank you vijith /usr/bin/java. I can not get a page to open in Chrome, says no java detected, on a site it is recommended I add a symlink to where java is in the chrome plugin directory
[22:41] <zerowaitstate> bearly: "sudo dmraid -rE"
[22:41] <zerowaitstate> without quotes, sorry
[22:41] <Tex_Nick> doe : http://www.amazon.com/Ubuntu-Linux-Bible-William-Hagen/dp/0470038993 ... is one i use
[22:42] <Jordan_U> bearly230: Good, that means that "sudo wipefs -a /dev/sda" should remove the FakeRAID metadata (be careful that you don't mistype, and be sure that you don't have any data that you still want on /dev/sda).
[22:42] <bearly230> zero: ran that and said yes to eraseing the pdc
[22:42] <doe> No sorry, I'm asking for a recommended book
[22:43] <zerowaitstate> try to install now
[22:43] <bearly230> Jordan_U: no data left on that drive made sure I backed up all the wifes files before doing this. )
[22:44] <bearly230> Zero and Jordan: That did it, it gave me the option of using entire disk )
[22:44] <zerowaitstate> man, I hate that FakeRAID garbage
[22:45] <bearly230> zero: so do I especially when your not going to use it.
[22:47] <bearly230> zero and Jorden: I do appreciate your assistance. Now I only have to fight with the wife when she gets her computer back. lol
[22:47] <zerowaitstate> good luck with that man.  I'm not touching that one :)
[22:48] <mike_papa> when I run update-grub I get: "grub-probe Couldn't find physical volume `(null)'. Some modules may be missing from core image." three times right after it finds Windows 8. Windows doesn't boot, and I get "error: device format "idm/dcd..../Volume2" invalid: nust be (f|N)dN, with 0<= N < 128." Any ideas how to deal with it, and what it means?
[22:48] <bearly230> zero: you may as well, your not here to get the repercussions hehe
[22:48] <doe> Tex_Nick: Thanks
[22:49] <bjrohan> I am having some serious problems getting a particular website I use for work to recognize that I do indeed have Java installed (other websites access it perfectly). Any suggestions where to start?
[22:50] <Tex_Nick> doe : np ... it's a fat book ... has some good info, but you can't beet this channel for help ;-)
[22:51] <Tex_Nick> wish i knew how to spell beat :(
[22:51] <fred_> hi
[22:52] <kwehmucdee> Hi!
[22:52] <sc30317> has anyone gotten a USB sound card working?  I'm trying to but i'm not able to do so
[22:53] <rephy222> hey  anyone know how i change my /home/username directory
[22:53] <RiXtEr> sc30317, I use my logitech h600 headphones
[22:53] <mike_papa> sc30317 my usb headphones works like charm.
[22:53] <rephy222> wanna change the name of that dir
[22:53] <RiXtEr> rephy222, and the name of the user too?
[22:53] <rephy222> doesnt matter
[22:53] <Cong> there is not enough free space on device to save this file "oegxoool.bless".
[22:54] <rephy222> i read somewhere to edit the passwd file
[22:54] <rephy222> but that didnt work
[22:55] <RiXtEr> rephy222, its in your /etc/passwd, group, gshadow, and shadow files (for usernames and homedir changes) but I wouldn't recommend modifying those files unless you are quite secure with what you are doing
[22:55] <david_> HI
[22:55] <doe> Tex_Nick:  lol, great, It looks and sounds extensive, just what I'm looking for...
[22:55] <rephy222> well i changed the file already to the username already and no luck when i tried logging in
[22:55] <david_> is this ubuntu  support ?
[22:56] <rephy222> and i think i already changed my username
[22:56] <rephy222> wait no i didnt
[22:57] <Cong> bliss can't save smallish-big files I need something else.
[22:58] <Dataholic> does lamp server included in 12.04?
[22:58] <rephy222> any other suggestions
[22:58] <Tex_Nick> doe : it's good for offline reading ... keep in mind though ... you can get later & greater for free from the web
[22:58] <rephy222> i edited the file and took out the password and still couldnt login when i rebooted
[22:58] <Cong> Dataholic, you mean is lamp server included in ubuntu 12.04.
[22:59] <Cong> lamp isn't a server, it's ah package
[22:59] <Dataholic> Cong:  yes
[22:59] <david_> hello
[22:59] <doe> Tex_Nick: Great, yeah looking for some offline reading and reference, love the Amazon preview ;-) IRC is a great resource...
[23:00] <Cong> it's a package of packages
[23:00] <david_> how i can  got the help !!
[23:00] <david_> ?
[23:00] <Dataholic> i tried searching it, apt-cache search lamp-server
[23:00] <Cong> Dataholic, try tasksel
[23:01] <IdleOne> david_: This is ubuntu support channel. What do you need help with?
[23:01] <Dataholic> Cong: you mean install taskel?
[23:01] <david_> i  Just  New Ubuntu  user  have  fresh installed
[23:02] <Cong> type tasksel on it's on
[23:02] <Cong> Dataholic, type tasksel on its on
[23:02] <david_> i have DVB-S  PCI card
[23:03] <Cong> Dataholic, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Tasksel
[23:03] <rephy222> hey does anyone know if there is like an irc program that does translations
[23:03] <david_> i Installed  Me TV  its telling me "There are no DVB devices available"
[23:05] <rephy222> like say i wanted to chat with a crazy afghanni terrorist to try an talk him out of blowin himself up
[23:05] <rephy222> is there a program that would translate
[23:05] <rephy222> kinda like google translate but with live chat
[23:06] <Cong> oh year there are tons of terrorist on iRC talking to complete strangers telling them their secret plan to blow up the white house
[23:06] <Dataholic> Cong: thanks men
 you here  ?
[23:08] <IdleOne> david_: yes. I don't know what Me TV is. Please ask your question in the channel and if someone knows they will help.
[23:08] <gogeta> Cong: lol so pretty mutch verybody
[23:08] <gogeta> everybody
[23:08] <david_> ok
[23:08] <david_> now  i  have other issue
[23:09] <david_> how i can  see if   all drivers installed or not  ?
[23:10] <david_> and how i can find  the right  drivers  for components
[23:10] <wols_> drivers for what?
[23:10] <david_> DVB-S
[23:11] <wols_> check your dmesg output and look for /dev/viode*
[23:11] <david_> i'm new user  may you help me how to  ?
[23:12] <david_> i used  this  command " lspci -v "
[23:12] <wols_> by running "dmesg" or "dmesg|less"
[23:12] <wols_> lspci shows you available pci devices
[23:12] <david_> yes
[23:13] <WXZ> is there a way to view your clipboard history?
[23:14] <david_> what i should looking  for   ?
[23:15] <PatrickDickey> I've got an odd question. I'm on xubuntu right now (or at least the XFCE login session), and I don't have the bottom panel. When I close apps like Skype, they disappear completely (minimize also). How do I restore that panel (it hasn't been there since I upgraded).
[23:15] <_val_> WXZ: xclip
[23:16] <PatrickDickey> david, what are you having problems with?
[23:16] <PatrickDickey> david_ *
[23:17] <david_> i want to  watch  TV on my  computer as i do on windows
[23:17] <david_> by looking on  internet  i got 2 programs  should  do it
[23:18] <WXZ> _val_: I've already lost what I copied, will xclip show that anyway
[23:18] <david_> ME TV  or  Kaffeine
[23:18] <PatrickDickey> What kind of tuner do you have? Or are you talking about watching Internet Only tv?
[23:18] <david_> No  DVB -s/s2 card
[23:18] <david_> not internet  TV
[23:19] <PatrickDickey> Right, what brand of card is it? It's a TV Tuner, right (you can hook the cable up to it).
[23:19] <blackshirt> patrickdickey, is xfce4-panel installed?
[23:19] <david_> my  DVB  Card   Model is  " VP-3000" by  Vision Plus
[23:19] <PatrickDickey> blackshirt, I'll check.
[23:20] <tkkrlab-bar> missie
[23:20] <PatrickDickey> in lspci, does it recognize the card?
[23:20] <david_> http://visionplus-tv.com/VP_P_3000_1-1.asp
[23:20] <tkkrlab-bar> Drbytes :ping
[23:21] <PatrickDickey> blackshirt, nope. Hopefully that'll do it for me.
[23:21] <david_> 05:01.0 Multimedia video controller: Conexant Systems, Inc. CX23880/1/2/3 PCI Video and Audio Decoder (rev 05)
[23:21] <david_> 	Subsystem: Hansol Electronics Inc. Device 9022
[23:21] <david_> 	Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 18
[23:21] <david_> 	Memory at f5000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M]
[23:21] <david_> 	Capabilities: <access denied>
[23:21] <david_> 	Kernel driver in use: cx8800
[23:21] <david_> 	Kernel modules: cx8800
[23:21] <FloodBot1> david_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:22] <BluesKaj> david_, have you tried tvtime ?
[23:22] <PatrickDickey> david_ in your dmesg, look for one of two things. Look for Connexant or video0 (could be video with another number also).
[23:25] <Orwell> hI GUYS
[23:25] <david_> Your board isn't known (yet) to the driver.  You can
[23:26] <Orwell> Anyone free to help me figure out why none of the tyys are working?
[23:26] <Orwell> *ttys
[23:28] <BluesKaj> Orwell, KB locked ?
[23:32] <PatrickDickey> david_ one suggestion that I have is to check http://www.linuxtv.org and search through their documentation (also search their mailing list archives). It *should* work, as it's using a Connexant chip (which is used in Hauppauge cards also), but that's not a guarantee.
[23:32] <elvis4526> hahaha unity on my nexus 7 is pretty funny.
[23:33] <PatrickDickey> david_: this might get you closer http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Cx88_devices_(cx2388x)
[23:34] <xbskid> Uh, interesting thing, here. I have an ubuntu 12.10 laptop that's been asleep for about three days. Just turned it on, and the screen is flashing a salmon color.
[23:34] <xbskid> Flashes once about every second
[23:34] <KM0201> xbskid: restart and see if it goes away
[23:35] <xbskid> But that's the Microsoft approach!
[23:35] <WXZ> is there a way to view your clipboard history?
[23:35] <gogeta> KM0201: service lightdm restart    the linux way
[23:35] <KM0201> xbskid: no its not... if the driver for some reason didn't reload propperly after sleeping... that's a driver problem
[23:36] <xbskid> Boo drivers
[23:36] <KM0201> gogeta: that could work to, but telling new peope to just restart is easier.
[23:36] <xbskid> There we go
[23:36] <bjrohan> Can someone help me troubleshoot why java is working on some page plugins, and not on others, especially on the same website
[23:36] <gogeta> KM0201: lol you the one that said thats the windows way
[23:37] <KM0201> gogeta: no i didn't
[23:37] <KM0201> scroll up
[23:37] <gogeta> xbskid: or that was you lol
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[23:37] <david_> i'm  still  looking
[23:37] <MonkeyDust> gogeta  i said it, reboot = the windows trick
[23:37] <xbskid> gogeta: I would have had to ssh into the box to do that; I couldn't pull up a terminal, and I don't remember the SysRq commands.
[23:38] <PatrickDickey> david_ it might just be that no one has tested the card with the linuxtv subsystem.
[23:38] <gogeta> xbskid: to what reboot a box
[23:38] <n0sq> since upgrading my wife's laptop to ubuntu 12.10 and amsn 0.98.9, my wife has had trouble retrieving her e-mail from hotmail - instead of going directly to her mailbox MSN wants to know her phone number and/or alternate e-mail address - after entering her alternate e-mail address she gets a confirmation number but when that is entered she gets a message about not having billing info on file - so is hotmail charging for their service
[23:38] <n0sq> now?
[23:38] <PatrickDickey> xbskid: CTRL+Alt+ F2 if it opens to a console, login, then type sudo reboot
[23:38] <xbskid> gogeta: Yeah; I don't have those commands memorized
[23:38] <gogeta> xbskid: ctrl al f1 always will pull up a console unless the hardware is locked up
[23:39] <gogeta> xbskid: sudo reboot
[23:39] <david_> and  even  on  the dmesg shows  to choose card #
[23:39] <xbskid> gogeta: No, the SysRq commands. And the hardware was locked up; I couldn't get to a terminal.
[23:39] <david_> But I dont know  how to choose one
[23:39] <david_> of them
[23:39] <PatrickDickey> david_ that's because they haven't created a driver for it yet. Or they haven't put it into the cardlist yet.
[23:40] <xbskid> Is there a way to pin programs to the launcher from the overlay?
[23:40] <daninoz> hi, I installed ubuntu-restricted-extras with apt-get and it got stucked in flashplugin-installer
[23:40] <gogeta> xbskid: if the hardware is lock and no ssh response time to push the power buttion
[23:40] <david_> i  want to  try  some of them
[23:40] <david_> but  i  dont know how
[23:41] <PatrickDickey> david_ try 86 It has the same device id as your card.
[23:41] <david_> yes   that  one  what i  did
[23:41] <david_> but i  dont  know  what the  command to use
[23:41] <david_> or  parameter
[23:42] <daninoz> i closed the terminal, and tried with dpkg --configure -a but it still get stucked
[23:42] <gogeta> david_: you walk over and turn it off
[23:42] <blackshirt> daninoz, what are you trying to config ?
[23:42] <david_> HUH !!
[23:42] <gogeta> david_: its the humand peramanter lol
[23:42]  * PatrickDickey thinks gogeta meant xbskid not david_
[23:42] <daninoz> blackshirt: I installed ubuntu-restricted-extras with apt-get and it got stucked in flashplugin-installer
[23:43] <PatrickDickey> gogeta, he's trying to get a tv tuner working. It's not going to turn off by hand.
[23:43] <nerdsrus45> I have an Nvidia GTS450 Video Adapter - and would like to get some better drivers. The drivers that are installed - well, not the best. Like in here there is a thick black line that goes across things. Is there a driver for the Nvidia out there that I can use?
[23:43] <gogeta> PatrickDickey: oh thats modprove bttv
[23:43] <gogeta> modprobe
[23:44] <blackshirt> daninoz, i think that stuck on downloading process
[23:44] <gogeta> PatrickDickey: that should turn it on
[23:44] <PatrickDickey> gogeta it's not recognized. He has to specify which card= for the driver to recognize it.
[23:45] <gogeta> PatrickDickey: bttv is most anlong models
[23:45] <nerdsrus45> Another issue I have is with sound - I have the creative labs sb x-fi xtreme and I am not getting any audio coming from Youtube though I am getting music if I play an MP3 file
[23:46] <gogeta> PatrickDickey: the kernel should handel the rest being the driver is aruldy installed
[23:46] <trism> xbskid: drag and drop
[23:46] <gogeta> PatrickDickey: if you mean a dtv card then its a totaly diffrent matter
[23:47] <ahmeds> hi guys
[23:47] <adam_> Hello all, I've just installed Ubuntu 12.10 and compiz is crashing on start up after installing ATI propriety  driver (ATI Radion 5450 HD). I didn't have this problem when upgrading from 12.04 but it seems to be an issue from a fresh 12.10 install. Any clues are much appreciated
[23:47] <PatrickDickey> gogeta, his card isn't listed in the cardlist.cx28 file. So, it won't load a driver. There's a card # that has a similar device ID to his. He's trying to load that driver.
[23:47] <ahmeds> :)
[23:48] <ahmeds> this is my first time on IRC
[23:48] <blackshirt> ahmeds, good luck guys
[23:49] <ahmeds> thank you :)
[23:49] <blackshirt> ahmeds, i dont
[23:49] <ahmeds> i want to make new ubuntu 12.10 system for my school
[23:49] <ahmeds> how i can make ISO file ?
[23:50] <blackshirt> ahmeds, i dont play with compiz bit a deep anymore, maybe the others people can help you solves your problem
[23:50] <gogeta> ahmeds: http://www.howtogeek.com/109736/how-to-create-a-custom-ubuntu-live-cd-or-usb/
[23:52] <PatrickDickey> david_ Your best bet is to subscribe to the linux-media mailing list, and ask there. They'll know whether your card works with linux or not (and how to specify the card= for it, if it does).
[23:52] <PatrickDickey> david_: the link to subscribe will be on the linuxtv.org site I gave you earlier.
[23:53] <WXZ> is there a way to view your clipboard history? (xclip doesn't do that)
[23:53] <ahmeds> and how i can change information in box features  display when i install system ?
[23:54] <ahmeds> ahmeds
[23:55] <brady> my system is having some booting problems
[23:56] <brady> is there a drive checking utility i can use to see if my drive is corrupted or damaged in some way?
[23:56] <gogeta> brady: smart
[23:56] <PatrickDickey> brady gparted will check it
[23:56] <BluesKaj> brady, what's the symptoms ?
[23:56] <blackshirt> brady, fsck
[23:57] <brady> i restart, and it jumps into bios
[23:57] <brady> i restart again
[23:57]  * PatrickDickey scratches fsck into my head. I never remember the command line one.
[23:57] <brady> bios again.. this goes on for a while, sometimes it boots to black screen , occasionally with some text too small to read on my projector
[23:57] <[twisti]> i added a bunch of vhost files, enabled them, restarted apache, but calls to www.vhost.com still go to www.maindomain.com, no errors or anything in the logs
[23:57] <brady> eventually, it manages to boot to ubuntu
[23:58] <[twisti]> ideas what to check ?
[23:58] <PatrickDickey> brady, when it goes into BIOS, does it see your hard drive? You'll have to look around for it maybe. if it doesn't, and then suddenly it does, that might be the hard drive, or it might be the controller on the motherboard (I'd lean towards the drive).
[23:59] <brady> do i just open a command line and type fsck?