/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/10/26/#xubuntu.txt

PoorCollegeGuyhey guys i'm getting crashes when i try to extract files using the package manager01:08
PoorCollegeGuyanyone know how to solve that one?01:08
recon_lapsudo apt-get clean might help01:09
PoorCollegeGuyokay,once i'm done doing what i'm doing i'll give that a try thank you :)01:14
matematikaadithello,02:28
matematikaaditHow does we know whether a page is served locally or not?02:29
matematikaaditI mean, if I visited http://192.168.1.1 in my machine, does this page served from my computer?02:30
moondogor http://localhost02:33
moondogor http://127.0.0.102:34
GridCubematematikaadit: 192.168.1.1 is usually adsl modems or any other devices that acts as hub02:35
GridCubeits a lan ip you can only access from your network02:35
FounderOf420hi guys, im looking for a software based volume amplifier02:37
FounderOf420for example, vlc can amp volume beyond 100% with software amp. im looking for the same functionality to be able to add to the basic desktop mixer02:38
GridCubealsamixer does that02:57
GridCubei mean pavucontrol02:57
GridCube:/02:57
GridCubepavucontrol02:58
FounderOf420launching synaptic now :)02:58
FounderOf420ohh i already have it installed. i must be using alsa by default\03:00
xubuntu356hello03:03
* studio12 12.04.1 Installer: "Executing 'grub-install /dev/sda' failed. This is a fatal error."03:30
GridCubestudio12: does your computer has UEFI?03:45
studio12currently looking to try this:  http://www.av8n.com/computer/htm/grub-reinstall.htm03:45
studio12no UEFI03:45
suttiwitwhen i open an html document locally, what command was executed?03:56
suttiwitfirefox %U ?03:56
suttiwitam i correct?03:56
suttiwitxubuntu 12.1003:56
suttiwitnvm bye03:58
xubuntu103anyone here feel like saving a n00b from utter failure?04:29
xubuntu103tried to install ubuntu on SD card, while leaving win7 untouched on hd0. now it only boots to grub rescue or live cd04:30
holsteinxubuntu103: i would recover the mbr in windows04:34
holsteintake the sd card out. fix windows.. then you can decide what you want to do04:34
holstein!grub04:34
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)04:34
holsteinyou can alwasy refer to that and just install grub and let it boot both of them04:34
xubuntu103ok i'm on a netbook...no cd drive. i have 2 sd card slots.04:36
holsteinxubuntu103: im not sure how microsoft will allow you to recover the mbr, but thats what you have broken04:36
holsteinwhat would i do? just install ubuntu beside windows.. it'll shrink it down and install grub and boot both04:37
xubuntu103somehow i managed to install xubuntu on to sd2. win7 hasn't changed, is on hd. i'm on sd1 running live xubuntu04:37
holsteinxubuntu103: you should consider what might happen though, and always have backups and ways to reinstall04:37
holsteinxubuntu103: i doubt win7 changed, though you could have broken it.. i think you just borked the mbr04:37
xubuntu103ok lets see...how can i troubleshoot the mbr?04:38
xubuntu103as a side note, i did try to browse to my hd win7 so i could grab some data and upload it to dropbox...but it fails to mount the drive04:38
xubuntu103btw, thx for helping me04:39
holsteinwhat fails to mount what? the live CD wont mount the ntfs partition?04:40
xubuntu103that is correct. live "CD" which is actually on sd card won't mount the ntfs with win7 on it04:40
holsteinxubuntu103: whats the error? i would probably test the drive04:41
xubuntu103here's the error: "Adding read ACL for uid 999 to `/media/xubuntu' failed: Operation not supported"04:42
holsteinxubuntu103: how are you trying to mount it?04:42
xubuntu103i get the same error when trying to open the other sd card that has desktop version of xubuntu04:42
xubuntu103double clicking on it04:42
holsteinxubuntu103: if it were me, and i were worried about the windows install, i would fix it.. i would recover the mbr.. maybe try and force a chkdsk or whatever that was04:44
xubuntu103well, if i can get xubuntu figured out, i would like to use it. it's waaaay faster on my netbook than win7. but i gotta get the data off first.04:46
xubuntu103anyway, any tips or link on recovering mbr?04:46
holsteinxubuntu103: theres just the one tip AFAIK.. i have used the windows install disc to recover it.. not sure if there are other tools04:47
holsteinhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/183799/fix-windows-mbr-using-ubuntu-live-cd might be relevant04:47
holsteini have only ever used a windows disk04:47
xubuntu103thx. well i will poke around and see if i can find a win disk. maybe my manuf. put it on a partition.04:48
holsteinxubuntu103: i would be trying some other live CD's and try and mount that ntfs partition04:48
xubuntu103thx for the help.. i'll research those options04:48
holsteinxubuntu103: i hope you havent lost anything... its a good idea to backup before. even though you were trying to be safe04:48
holsteinxubuntu103: i used to unplug the hard drive.. the internal one.. and install to SD cards04:48
xubuntu103everything critical was already backed up. there is work stuff that i might need, but haven't used in the past month that isn't backed up04:49
holsteinxubuntu103: you still should be able to install grub somewhere and just boot all the os's that are there and showing up04:49
holsteinxubuntu103: makes me wonder why the partitions are mounting though... good luck!04:49
holsteinarent*04:49
xubuntu103ha i did that on my old laptop. but this one has the ssd right on the mobo. argh asus!04:49
xubuntu103ok i'm gonna go google this stuff and see what i can find out. thanks again!04:51
iliashi. i fresh installed 12.04 to an acer travelmate 2700 series with a 3gz cpu and 750 mb ram and runs smoothly except that too often during browsing (either with chromium or firefox) the system freezes and needs restart using power on/off button. Any idea on that issue?05:16
=== user__ is now known as ilias
[JJ]AlbertI have no sound here in Xubuntu 12.10.05:24
[JJ]AlbertTried reinstalling alsa-base, but it still does not work.05:24
[JJ]AlbertI installed it on top of 12.04. where sound was running fine after a few crowbars to the occasional sound driver issues.05:25
[JJ]AlbertBut yes, sound is not working. ALSA, that is.05:26
nerd_joneshow come my server (http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=2776) reboots faster than my client(http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?cc=us&lc=en&dlc=en&docname=c03349988)?05:29
nerd_jonesserver xubuntu 12.04   client, xubuntu 12.1005:31
[JJ]Alberthmm, dunno05:31
[JJ]AlbertI am hoping someone has a simple explanation of how I can troubleshoot my audio issues with ALSA.05:32
[JJ]AlbertHere in Xubuntu 12.10.05:32
[JJ]AlbertI'll brb, gonna reset. mebbe it'll be fixed since I tried alsa-base one more time, again. :p05:34
=== `mOOse` is now known as m00se
[JJ]AlbertNope, audio is still broken.05:37
[JJ]AlbertHere in 12.1005:37
[JJ]AlbertALSA 1.0.25, I think. Whatever the latest one is.05:37
[JJ]AlbertThat may be it.05:37
[JJ]AlbertAny ideas?05:37
[JJ]AlbertOh yeah, and my soundchip is the Realtek ALC889.05:38
[JJ]AlbertAnyone?05:39
[JJ]AlbertAlright, this MIGHT be a bug which has affected me: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/103323305:43
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1033233 in alsa-driver (Ubuntu) "[iMac9,1, Realtek ALC889A, Speaker, Internal] No sound at all with kernel 3.5.0" [Medium,Confirmed]05:43
[JJ]AlbertAnd it probably is close, except I'm not on an imac, but a built system with a GIGABYTE GA-A75M-D2H05:45
[JJ]AlbertAgain, no sound with ALSA on Xubuntu 12.10, with a Realtek ALC889 soundchip.05:45
[JJ]AlbertAnyone got a clue what I should do? Besides reinstalling alsa, which has cured nothing.05:46
[JJ]AlbertI'm reading into this myself, so it's not hopeless.05:46
[JJ]AlbertJust annoying.05:46
[JJ]AlbertIt's starting to become hopeless though, not to mention taxing.05:48
[JJ]AlbertAgain, no sound with ALSA on Xubuntu 12.10, with a Realtek ALC889 soundchip. Already tried reinstalling ALSA, but no dice.05:48
[JJ]Albert(Not meaning to repeat myself, just when new people come in)05:48
=== `mOOse` is now known as m00se
[JJ]AlbertOh, hold on. I think I may be onto something. Pulseaudio was reinstalled, which possibly ruined the whole thing for me.05:53
[JJ]AlbertPurging that and restarting again. But not before reinstalling ALSA... AGAIN.05:53
[JJ]AlbertNope. :(05:57
[JJ]AlbertThis is, and I won't lie, getting irritating. ALSA not working. ALC889. 12.10.05:57
[JJ]AlbertAny advice?05:58
akishi all. on afriend's notebook which runs 12.04 was choosed to log-in without a 'display session on login'. now we want to add 'lubuntu' to make the system lighter. On startup how can we force the system to load lubuntu and not xubuntu?06:24
[JJ]Albertinstall lubuntu stuff06:36
[JJ]AlbertIn synaptic06:36
[JJ]AlbertLubuntu core, I think.06:36
[JJ]AlbertRestart06:36
[JJ]AlbertIn login screen, select the list tab saying "Xubuntu session" and swap it out for something "lubuntu"06:37
[JJ]AlbertUh, does that answer your question? Sorry I'm not real wordy right now. Going through my own problem ATM.06:37
akisAlbert: i dont have login screen how can i enable it?06:43
WalterNhmm06:46
WalterNit seems xubuntu is not working correctly with my printer06:47
akisok. we fixed it.06:48
WalterNyeah... it wont print anything :-/06:51
=== PoorCollegeGuy is now known as PCG|Sleep
xubuntu893Hi fellows, I'm trying to install Xubuntu 12.04 and/or 12.10 on Samsung q550 tablet - without any success. On 12.04 there is problem with Xubuntu booting to access the instalation proccess (the same on desktop and alternate version). On 12.10 there is success in installing, but there is no chance to launch gui (xde). Do you have any similar experience with Samsung q550? thanks!07:14
baizonxubuntu893: try that http://askubuntu.com/questions/38780/how-to-set-nomodeset-for-installation07:24
chaotixxhi is anyione here?09:22
TheSheephi | chaotixx09:22
chaotixxi did a fresh install of xubuntu 12.04 off of a usb...  wired networking worked fine but wireless did not...  saw online and for my broadcom adapter it was a prob09:23
chaotixxso i upgraded to 12.10 in the terminal09:23
chaotixxand now, the computer has no networking, wired or wireless09:23
chaotixxhi TheSheep09:23
xubuntu930Hi I have installed xubuntu with Spanish keyboard layout. But I have a keyboard in English, and sometimes I need to switch to English keyboard. How I can make the switch from keyboard using a keyboard shortcut?09:23
TheSheepchaotixx: does it see the network devices?09:24
chaotixxin the terminal, yes...  in the network manager icon on the xfce panel, no09:25
chaotixxi can pastebin a lspci output09:25
TheSheepchaotixx: I'm more interested in 'ifconfig -a'09:25
chaotixxok09:25
chaotixxoh i cant pastebin   :(09:26
chaotixxno internet on that one09:26
chaotixxbut it says...09:26
chaotixxwell, what should i look for09:26
chaotixxsry09:26
chaotixxlspci shows both adapters at the bottem...  and ifconfig -alooks exactly like ifconfig09:27
chaotixxlo is the only section09:27
chaotixxand i just tried ifconfig eth0 up09:28
chaotixxno  avail09:28
chaotixxbut theres no such devices09:28
TheSheepchaotixx: so it does't see the network devices09:28
chaotixxno09:28
chaotixxjust lo09:28
TheSheepchaotixx: it just sees the network card as a pci card09:28
chaotixxno eth or wlan09:29
chaotixxis that what lo means09:29
chaotixx?09:29
chaotixxi had no idea what lo was09:29
TheSheeploopback09:29
chaotixxoh ok09:29
TheSheepit's the 127.0.0.109:29
chaotixxohh09:29
chaotixxlocal host right?09:29
TheSheepyeah09:29
TheSheepanyways, if you do lsmod09:29
chaotixxwhat can i do?09:29
TheSheepdo you have the network modules loaded?09:29
chaotixxi dont think they are09:30
chaotixxunless..  what type of name would it have09:30
TheSheepbcma? b43?09:30
chaotixxnope09:31
chaotixxhowd you know ii  have broadcom b43...09:31
TheSheepI have it too09:31
chaotixxyeah this is crazzy09:31
TheSheepit's a macbook :(09:31
TheSheepdid you add anything to module blacklists?09:32
chaotixxno09:32
chaotixxnever heard of mod blacklists09:32
TheSheepcan you look through 'dmesg | less' and see when it's trying to detect networking devices?09:32
TheSheepany errors there?09:32
balgkarbrHI guys, once more i just pas here to say that Xubuntu for me is more like a ... im really happy to know that xubuntu exist.09:33
TheSheepbalgkarbr: cool, we are happy too09:34
chaotixxsome things have *ERROR* im not sure tho09:34
chaotixxit was deff not less than dmesg09:34
balgkarbrThe perfect OS.Just a pendrive and i make my computer sings09:34
chaotixxthere were too many lines to go back and look thru09:34
TheSheepchaotixx: you can search with /09:34
chaotixxok...  what to search for09:35
TheSheepchaotixx: 'n' takes you to the next place09:35
chaotixxerror09:35
TheSheep'net' maybe?09:35
chaotixxok09:35
chaotixxpatterm not found ((press RETURN) is what it said09:35
chaotixxwhen i searched for net09:35
TheSheepthe command is 'dmesg | less' with the pipe character in the middle09:35
TheSheepless lets you scroll09:36
chaotixxyup i did that09:36
chaotixxand i know i am searching the way u told me too because i tried some things i could see first...  and now i am trying stuff like b43 broadcom net09:37
chaotixxi dont know how this happenned09:37
TheSheepmy guess it that it didn't update completely09:38
chaotixxi could re install 12.04 again....  thats still on the usb sticl09:38
chaotixxor i could make a 12.10 usb stick09:38
TheSheepyeah, we will get to that if we can't fix it09:38
chaotixxit deff updated...  i had to press y to restart09:38
chaotixxok09:38
TheSheepbtw, is it a macbook?09:38
chaotixxno09:38
chaotixxit is a dell inspiron09:38
TheSheepdeff?09:38
chaotixxolder one09:38
chaotixxyeah09:38
TheSheepwhat is 'deff'?09:39
chaotixxdefinately09:39
chaotixxsorry09:39
TheSheepah, sorry, not a native speaker09:40
chaotixxwhat is your other language?09:40
TheSheepif it updated, then it should still have the older kernel there09:40
TheSheepPolish09:40
chaotixxi see09:40
chaotixxnice09:40
TheSheepso you could boot that older kernel and see if it works09:40
chaotixxhow? i dont have grub installed09:41
TheSheepyou can get to the kenel menu by holding down shift during boot09:41
chaotixxok09:41
TheSheepyou have grub installed09:41
TheSheepwithout grub it wouldn't boot09:41
chaotixxook09:41
chaotixxi thought that was only for dual boot09:41
chaotixxim learning a lot tonite09:41
chaotixx:)09:41
TheSheepno, it's always tehre09:41
chaotixxthanks09:41
TheSheepif it works with the older kernel, try following the steps to get yor wireless working with it09:42
chaotixxGRUB LOADING!!09:42
chaotixxyay09:42
TheSheep!networking09:42
chaotixx"!networking" in the term?09:42
TheSheephttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx09:42
TheSheepsorry09:42
chaotixxdo you use xubuntu as well?09:43
TheSheepyes09:43
chaotixxi never got a grub menu09:43
TheSheep!grub09:43
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)09:43
chaotixxwell if i did it didnt show up/.....  the computer i use is a pos, and i have the vga cord hooked up to a tv as it has no monitor...  it is an old inspiron laptop with no screeen09:44
chaotixxso sometimes, like when i am booting up, the screen goes off till a gui part09:44
TheSheepchaotixx: try esc instead, maybe...09:44
TheSheepah09:45
TheSheepthat sucks09:45
chaotixxwhen i was booting i hit shift..  and then it said grub loading09:45
chaotixxand then i got a black screen09:45
chaotixxand then xubuntu loaded09:45
chaotixxi knowww09:45
chaotixxi think i lost this round09:45
chaotixxlol09:45
TheSheepyou can enable grub menu09:45
chaotixxbut it wont show on my tv09:45
TheSheepin /etc/defaults/grub09:45
chaotixxlol09:45
chaotixxit will be a blank screen till i get to gui09:45
TheSheepif it showed 'grub loading'09:46
TheSheepthen it should show09:46
TheSheepworth a try anyways09:46
chaotixxi would think so, but theres a lot of stuff it shows and then unshows09:46
TheSheepeven if it doesn't show, you could try to use it blindly09:46
chaotixxmaybe i could after it says grub loading and the screen goes black, just press 'down' and then enter?09:46
TheSheepbut after all this, I think that a reinstall might be the quickest way to get it working09:47
chaotixxyeah09:47
chaotixxthe question is, what should i install with09:47
TheSheep!install09:47
ubottuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? See http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate09:47
chaotixxi used xubuntu because of my limitations09:47
chaotixxi meant what distro this time09:47
chaotixxlol09:47
TheSheepah09:47
chaotixxsorry'09:47
TheSheepwell, that's up to you09:47
chaotixxi could do it again09:47
chaotixxor go with something else09:48
chaotixxi am getting a bit used to xubuntu09:48
chaotixxlxde wasnt my fav09:48
TheSheepyou could try mint, maybe they have the broadcom working out of the box09:48
chaotixxthey do09:48
chaotixxbut i have a lot of limitations09:48
chaotixxi dunno...  mate might be too slow09:48
chaotixxim thinking of just using xbmcubtu09:48
chaotixxor xbmc live09:49
TheSheepcan't help you there09:49
chaotixxbut i wanted a distro behind it09:49
TheSheepjust try a couple09:49
chaotixxim going ubuntu based09:49
chaotixxi might look for the lightest version of mint09:49
chaotixxi like mint09:49
chaotixxbeen using it since v1009:49
TheSheepI think they have a version based on debian too09:49
chaotixxlmde09:50
chaotixxits called i think09:50
chaotixxim gonna try making an xubuntu 12.10 install first09:50
chaotixxbut these are all good ideas here09:50
chaotixxi wish i could just run unity or gnome 3 on this box09:51
chaotixxit would be perfect on my tv09:51
chaotixxits a big screen09:51
chaotixxi appreciate greatly the help09:51
chaotixxthank you09:51
chaotixxand all the best to you, TheSheep09:52
TheSheepthanks, same to you09:52
chaotixxi wonder if mint xfce is to mint what xubuntu is to ubuntu09:53
chaotixxthat would suck09:53
chaotixxbut ill try it out09:53
chaotixxwell, only suck for me09:53
chaotixxxubuntu is ok09:53
lestuslol wth was that guy on about?10:12
lestuswas he on drugs or something?10:12
lestushaha10:12
knomelestus, excuse me, but how was that relevant for a support channel?10:13
lestusknome, apologies, it wasn't10:13
=== `mOOse` is now known as m00se
xubuntu086hello?11:55
xubuntu086I just installed Xubuntu and found out that there is no automatic wireless detection. Or is it certain that Xubuntu doesn't coe with pre-built drivers11:56
xubuntu086for xubuntu by default?11:56
xubuntu086forget this i'm out11:59
SpitHello12:08
SpitAnyone here?12:08
apm1no12:10
apm1irony :p12:10
apm1after hibernating my laptop when i open the lid and press the power button to resume , does the hibernated state of the os stored in the swap get automatically deleted ?12:20
apm1stupid but genuine question ;)12:22
nantouis this outdated? http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-convert-bincue-files-to-iso-in-ubuntu.html14:12
nantoushould I use something else?14:12
GridCubeno idea14:14
GridCubeit might justs work14:14
mrcarrotI ended up having to fix a xubuntu install of a friend. He has been messing with the display settings, and now when the computer boots up, everything is just black. He did it from inside of xfce. Where is the configuration file stored?14:20
mrcarrotI can not find the usual /etc/X11/xorg.conf14:20
GridCubethere should not be one14:20
GridCubenot since like 200614:20
mrcarrotWhere is it stored then?14:20
GridCubehow is everything black?14:21
GridCubedoes he gets to the lightdm greeter?14:21
mrcarrotIf I do a normal booting, I can see the pre-X splash. Then it turns black14:21
GridCubei mean is he asked for user/password?14:21
mrcarrotNope. And he had automatic login, so it is normally never getting to whatever *dm it was running.14:22
GridCubeok, can you get to a tty and see if X are running?14:22
mrcarrotRight now I have booted it up in single user mode, wanting to edit whatever file you change when you change the resolution from the "settings" menu.14:23
GridCube~/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/displays.xml14:27
GridCubemrcarrot: ^^^14:27
mrcarrotGridCube: Thanks!14:32
servaasi have no trash in thunar and gvfs is installed what can i do14:52
GridCubeservaas: ?14:52
GridCube!details14:52
ubottuPlease give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."14:52
servaasi i open thunar there is no trash icon in the sidepanel14:53
nantouhow do I open a img file?14:53
servaasi run xubuntu 12.10 i try to acces the trash in thunar but there is no icon to click on14:54
GridCubeservaas: do you have write persmissions?14:54
GridCubenantou: what type of img file, there are several14:54
servaashow can i check for write permissions ?14:54
toraxnantou: what do you want to do with the img file?14:55
nantoumicrosoft attributre definition file14:55
nantouI want to open it14:55
nantouwould it be easier to make an iso out of it?14:56
GridCube!img14:56
GridCubenantou: doesnt xfburn opens it?14:57
spowHi. I've installed Xubuntu on my eeepc but I had to reboot 4 or 5 times today until the screen would show something (be it X or a console). Is this a known issue ?14:58
servaasmy trash icon magically reappeared in thunar so the problem is solved but the reason why it disappeared is unknown14:59
GridCubeservaas: you dindt had write permissions14:59
servaasi did no change permissions14:59
GridCubespow: have you checked the logs?15:00
GridCubeservaas: you dont have to, they should be automatically granted15:00
servaasi did add the trash plugin to the panel maybe that helped i was able to access the trash that way15:00
nantouis xfburn a default app?15:00
GridCubenantou: it should15:01
GridCubein xubuntu it is15:01
servaasok gridcube15:03
GridCubeservaas: i dont really know if that helped or not15:04
GridCube:)15:04
GridCubebut good you got it working15:05
=== larry is now known as Guest55307
Guest55307hi, i just installed xubuntu 12.10 and it looks great.I have an issue though, i don't have a mail icon for thunderbird in indicator plugin and i can not edit the menu.Does anybody had these issues15:08
servaaswas the messaging indicator plugin not removed in 12.10 ?15:09
Chad__I have the same issue of not being able to edit my menu.15:10
GridCubehave any of you read the release notes?15:10
Guest55307I didn;t15:10
servaasi did partly but forgot most15:11
GridCubehttp://xubuntu.org/news/12-10-release/15:11
servaasi can add the applications menu right click it and choose properties and edit the menu i edited out the games menu15:12
GridCubeChad__: there is an option for editing the Main Menu on Settings, you can launch it from alt-f2 searching alacarte as well15:13
Chad__GridCube: That's the problem. Alacarte doesn't work.15:13
servaasrelease notes : Known Issues  Applications The messaging indicator is not available for 12.1015:13
servaasyou can not start alacarte15:14
GridCubeChad__: how "doesnt work"?15:14
Chad__servaas: I can start it, but I cannot remove items from being shown.15:15
GridCubeChad__: launch it from a terminal and see what the log is15:15
platMe too,can not edit menu15:15
servaasyou can not remove checkmarks or you can not save the changes ?15:15
plati can not save the changes15:16
Chad__servaas: I can remove checkmarks, but they come back after I exit Alacarte.15:16
servaasand if you start it from terminal with sudo ?15:16
Chad__servaas: http://pastebin.com/zrutvxpi15:18
Chad__servaas: No15:18
servaasgi._glib.GError: Failed to look up menu_file for "applications.menu" << that is too high for me15:19
GridCubethose errors show when you try to save? or change something? or just when you open?15:20
Chad__GridCube: just when attempting to open with sudo.15:20
GridCubedont sudo it15:20
GridCubeif you sudo it will try to change the menu for root and root doesnt have a menu15:20
Chad__GridCube: It opens without sudo, but it won't save the changes I make.15:21
GridCubeyes, i want to see what errors it logs then15:22
Chad__GridCube: I know this is a stupid question, but where will those errors be logged?15:22
GridCubein the terminal you use to launch it15:23
Chad__GridCube: In that case, there are no errors shown.15:23
servaasmaybe you need to provide the path to the file ?15:23
GridCubei see15:24
GridCubeservaas: Chad__ plat https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alacarte/+bug/106920715:27
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1069207 in alacarte (Ubuntu) "Unable to edit or add items to main menu" [Undecided,Confirmed]15:27
GridCubeplease report your issues to the tracker :)15:28
servaasso the bug only affects some user15:28
servaasbut i did a fresh install not an upgrade15:28
GridCubeamd64 users apparently15:28
servaasi have intel incide (r) (c)15:29
Chad__GridCube: Thanks. I've never reported a bug before. What instructions must I follow?15:30
GridCubeChad__: you need a launchpad account, its free to get one, then you report it as a forum message, if you are reporting something new you should use the ubuntu-bug program that is preinstalled on your computer15:31
GridCubetry to add all the information you think is important, like the outputs of uname -a for example15:32
Chad__GridCube: Alright, thanks a lot!15:33
GridCubeservaas: if a microprocesor uses the 64bit arch it doesnt matter if its intel or whoever, the software is known as amd6415:34
servaasok i am 32 bit15:35
GridCubethen report that you are experiencing this issue aswell please15:35
GridCubeand add your arch information15:35
GridCubeand all what you think is relevant15:35
servaasbut it works for me15:35
GridCubeP: then you dont have to report anything15:36
GridCube!info menulibre15:38
ubottuPackage menulibre does not exist in quantal15:38
GridCubeChad__: you can try this: http://www.smdavis.us/projects/menulibre/15:39
servaasbut is the 32 and 64 bit package not compiled from the same source ?15:39
Chad__GridCube: I'll use that in the meantime, I guess.15:40
nantouhow do I upgrade to 12.10? I can download a torrent from the official site, the iso file, but then? will I have the option to upgrade without deleting the contents of my laptop?15:40
servaasnantou , The update manager GUI will offer you 12.10 Xubuntu  (it shows as Ubuntu, but updates Xubuntu); Alternatively, launch a  Terminal and enter sudo do-release-upgrade15:42
nantouok15:43
GridCubeChad__: you can do it manually aswel: http://wiki.xfce.org/howto/customize-menu15:43
nantouservaas, the command line option: Checking for a new Ubuntu release15:45
nantouNo new release found, but it is 12.04 the one I have15:45
GridCubenantou: do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade15:46
Chad__GridCube: I may just have to do that. MenuLibre isn't appearing in my menu. And I don't know what command to issue at the terminal to run it.15:47
nantousorry, it was my fault, I had ot configured to show only long term support upgrades15:47
GridCubeChad__: i would bet you 25 cents right now that its menulibre on a terminal15:48
nantouthe fastest way to upgrade is a fresh installation, right?15:48
GridCubeyes15:48
GridCubeand safer15:48
nantoui cannot do that, unfortunately...15:48
Chad__GridCube: I was surprised too. It's not menulibre15:49
servaasmaybe only lts upgrades are selected in the sources editor15:49
nantouhow long can it last the upgrade (non fresh)? 2 hours?15:50
nantoushould I shut everything but the upgrader?15:51
servaasdepends on connection my mobile broadband took a day for the upgrade but i after much trouble i downloaded the iso and did a fresh install15:51
nantouthats depressing servaas , anyhow it says its going to last 93 mns and shut evertything15:52
nantouso cya15:52
servaaspatience is a virtue15:52
servaasso i am very happy that xubuntu team decided to keep the size of xubuntu to the size of cd instead of dvd15:54
knomeservaas, great to have that feedback too15:54
jarnos_Some error resulting text mode after trying to eject USB stick in Thunar in 12.04. kern.log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1307476/  I could not reproduce the effect. Is there something I could do to make ubuntu better in this case?16:08
jarnos_Ctrl-Alt-F7 returned me in the desktop environment. Thunar window was not responding, though.16:10
jarnos_I guess there is something wrong with the nouveau driver for graphics;  multiple segfaults, chromium crashes frequently, see the kern.log.16:13
servaasmaybe there was a read or write action or you were in the filesystem of the device when unmounting ?16:15
jarnos_servaas, I am not sure, but it should not freeze in that case, but complain.16:19
jarnos_If you have some idea, please mail me to 8 at iki dot fi, if I am not online.16:29
knomejarnos_, this is not craigslist16:30
jarnos_knome, what is craigslist?16:31
knomejarnos_, nevermind. post your question to the forums or so if you want people to contact you even if you weren't around.16:31
TheSheepjarnos_: in short, nobody will e-mail you, but you can check out the forums16:31
=== PCG|Sleep is now known as PoorCollegeGuy
servaasgvfs can slow down thunar ?17:00
=== PoorCollegeGuy is now known as panda
=== panda is now known as PoorCollegeGuy
NoxityHey, I'm not sure if this is a Minecraft or Xubuntu problem, but whenever I come out of fullscreen (F11) mode, Minecraft crashes with this error log; http://pastebin.com/QHMGQe7q17:44
baizonNoxity: update your java17:45
baizonthen try to run it as root17:45
NoxityI'm running it with OpenJDK 717:45
GridCubeNoxity: is this plain minecraft or have you modded it?17:47
GridCubeNoxity: is this plain minecraft or have you modded it?17:47
baizonNoxity: the last version is 1.7.917:48
GridCubeits... not17:48
GridCubeoh, you mean java17:48
baizonyes yes17:48
NoxityIt's the latest 1.4.2, with OptiFine and TooManyItems, but it happened before I modded it and with 1.3.217:48
NoxityWhere do I install Java?17:50
Noxity(Software Centre/Java site/Ubuntu site?)17:50
GridCubeNoxity: from USC or Synaptic17:50
GridCubeNoxity: run java -version17:50
GridCubeon a terminal17:51
Noxity1.6.0_2417:51
GridCubesame here17:51
GridCubeno mods tho17:51
GridCubeminecraft 1.4.2 works fine17:51
NoxityGo fullscreen then back out, does it crash?17:51
HabermasIs xubuntu the same ubuntu just with a different graphic interface?17:51
GridCubenope17:52
GridCubeHabermas:  yes17:52
NoxityIt uses XFCE instead of Unity, that's the main change, but there are many other differences17:52
ironfoot495Can someone help me find the right way to see my 1024x756 resolution?17:52
GridCubeits just another desktop over ubuntu's os17:52
GridCubeironfoot495: how is the "right way"17:53
GridCubeyou want to rotate it to the right?17:53
GridCubealso 756?17:53
ironfoot495GridCube: I really need help . I installed server 12.04 and installed the proprietary driver but still does not work?17:53
Noxitybaizon: How do I get to 1.7.9? Synaptic?17:53
GridCubeNoxity: no, installing java 7 its a pita17:53
GridCubeironfoot495: whats the problem17:54
NoxityGridCube: Shall I get Java 7 instead of OpenJDK 7?17:54
GridCubeNoxity: not really17:54
GridCubeit should just work17:54
GridCubetry not using mods17:55
NoxityWhat are you using to run it?17:55
ironfoot495GridCube: I can't get my AKIA  1024x756 to see the  the OS?17:55
GridCubejava -jar minecraft.jar17:55
GridCubeironfoot495: i really dont understand what you mean, if you could elaborate please17:55
NoxityI mean OpenJDK 7 or Oracle Java 7?17:55
GridCubeopenjdk seems to work fine17:56
NoxityHmm, no idea why then17:56
NoxityMods don't affect it, it happened before mods were installed17:56
GridCubeare you using your proper video drivers?17:57
HabermasI have an old netbook with Ubuntu 12.04 and it lags sometimes. Would it improve the performance if I changed the graphic interface from GNOME to XFCE?17:57
GridCubeHabermas: probably yes.17:57
GridCubehard enfasis on probably17:57
ironfoot495GridCube: ok I went to the add proprietary driver and added the drive FGLRX Graphics Driver but it does not work???17:58
GridCubeNoxity: also are you usin the improved lwgjl? http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Update_LWJGL17:58
GridCubeironfoot495: what i dont understand is how it doesnt work? you cant log anymore? you cant choose different screen resolutions? how is it not working?17:59
NoxityI've just been looking through the error again and saw that, it's to do with LWJGL... I'll try updating it17:59
ironfoot495I can't choose diffent resolutions!!!18:00
GridCubeok, open a terminal and type: xrandr18:00
GridCubeand paste the results on a pastebin18:00
ironfoot495GridCube: I have to use my small screen to even get on.18:01
GridCubeironfoot495: use a tty18:01
ironfoot495GridCube:  could you explain please.18:01
ironfoot495GridCube:  the procedure I mean.18:02
GridCubeif you press ctrl-alt-F1 to F6 you can cycle trhough different Text Terminals, the F7 is where the graphical instance resides18:02
NoxityGridCube: Updated LWJGL, still crashes18:02
GridCubeif you open a tty you can login and type: xrandr | pastebint18:03
GridCubeand pass us the resulsts of that18:03
GridCubeor...  maybe that wont work  because you wont be on X's...18:04
GridCubeok... no... that wont work18:04
GridCubesilly me18:04
servaasis anyone using the mail panel plugin and does it work with ssl and live.com or hotmail.com ?18:05
GridCubeok ironfoot495 lets do this this way, go to a tty, log in, type this: sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old18:05
GridCubethen reboot18:05
GridCubestuff should be fixed but you wont have privative drivers enabled anymore18:06
GridCubemail panel plugin?18:06
servaasthe name is mail watcher18:06
GridCubenope, never heard of it18:07
GridCubei check my emails on google18:07
ironfoot495GridCube:  I did as you suggested but I get the response not supported.18:07
servaaslol18:07
GridCubeironfoot495: not supported?18:07
GridCubehow not supported?18:08
GridCubeironfoot495: have you loged into a tty?18:08
ironfoot495yeah! you see I normally download the drivers from the propietary drivers know as add drivers and I actived the drivers but I still get a black screen.18:09
ironfoot495use the largerscreen.18:09
GridCubeironfoot495: yes, but if you remove the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file from /etc/X11 it should reboot to generic drivers18:10
ironfoot495GridCube:  ok thanks I'll give it a try.18:11
vektekhi all, migrating from windows. do you think this is a good distro to get started?18:13
baizonvektek: yes18:13
vektekcool. thank you baizon18:14
baizonnp18:14
ironfoot495I'm trying to get my AKAI 37' to work using 12.04?18:26
ironfoot495can someone help me please!18:27
Habermaswhat is AKAI 37? TV set?18:28
ironfoot495Habermas: It's a 37" flat screen.18:29
ironfoot495I tried googleing it but I get nowhere.18:30
hhhzzzarnhello18:34
hhhzzzarni am having difficulty with display in xubuntu18:35
hhhzzzarnsince xubuntu can not duplicate the desktop perfectly on two displays (the smaller one shows only a portion of the desktop).18:36
hhhzzzarnso I have to disable my netbooks display and keep the external monitor on. but when I unplug the vga, my netbook display will not be automatically used and it will stay black.18:38
hhhzzzarni am trying it now to see if it is still the case.18:38
hhhzzzarn.18:53
MrHotsaucehm19:04
MrHotsauceanyone have issues with "cupsd" crashing? im assuming thats the printer daemon thing correct?19:05
bibhasthat guy didn't know about `arandr`19:14
=== unheeding is now known as Mitt_Romney
=== Mitt_Romney is now known as unheeding
evopilothi19:43
evopilotIs there supposed to be a 'restart' option as well as shutdown and suspend?19:43
baizon!hi | evopilot19:43
ubottuevopilot: Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay!19:43
evopilotin the menu "under my username" all I have is suspend and shutdown, no restart option? Using xubuntu 12.1019:46
baizonevopilot: right-click and go to properties19:46
baizonthere you can add / remove options19:46
evopilotsorted thanks, bit of a newbie I'm afraid just getting to know my way around :$19:48
unheedinguse the command line19:48
unheedingit's more fun19:48
unheedingonce you get the hang of it19:49
evopilotas in 'sudo apt-get' etc ?19:49
Mike-Linux-NLhello everyone... is there a backup solution to backup my entire Xubuntu install, incl. home folder?19:50
evopilotI've just used the terminal to upgrade .... absolutely LOVE IT!19:50
Mike-Linux-NLas 1 big iso file, without a 4gb limit?19:50
baizonMike-Linux-NL: deja-dup19:51
Mike-Linux-NLdoes is let me reinstall the entire distro as it is now?19:51
baizonwould be my recommendation19:51
Mike-Linux-NLwith my settings, files etc?19:52
baizonkinda19:52
baizonyou need to sync your installed software and your fine then19:52
Mike-Linux-NLsync? how do you mean?19:52
toraxnot a backup tool, but I use clonezilla to do images of my HDD19:53
servaasyou want to clone your drive ?19:53
baizonMike-Linux-NL: i mean this http://www.howtogeek.com/111989/how-to-sync-quickly-reinstall-applications-on-ubuntu/19:53
Mike-Linux-NLwell.. i have Xubuntu installed, but tweaked to fit my needs and support of this laptop. i want to try something else for a while, but if neccesary be able to re-install this setup i have now19:54
toraxclonezilla19:55
toraxhttp://partedmagic.com/doku.php?id=start19:56
Mike-Linux-NLwell this is a dual boot.. i dont wanna clone the entire drive...19:56
Mike-Linux-NLand if i do clone this partition, then what about grub?19:56
toraxyou can clone partitions19:56
toraxI prefer parted magic, it has few useful tools, including clonezilla19:57
evopilotdoes it also copy grub too?19:57
toraxyes19:58
toraxI havent restored partitions to dual boot, so I dont know if theres something you need to know, but I bet theres good tutorials in internet19:59
Mike-Linux-NLi rather have a solution that i can back the entire system as an iso file, and "burn" that onto a bootable usb drive to reinstall when i want19:59
evopilotdo u mean the entire drive?20:00
Mike-Linux-NLno entire linux install that is on this drive... next to windows20:00
Mike-Linux-NLremastersys could do it, but i read it has a 4gb restriction?20:01
evopilotI'm on a dual-boot also20:01
Mike-Linux-NLor that restriction is build in ubuntu derivates20:01
servaasif the install is not bigger than 9 gig you can try it with xfburn ?20:01
evopilotkinda new to linux though ;$20:02
servaasbiggest dvd in xfburn is 7.9 gig20:03
toraxMike-Linux-NL: you can burn parted magic to usb key and use that same key to store the image20:03
Mike-Linux-NL[Info] Looking for server irc.geekshed.net (port 6667)...20:04
Mike-Linux-NL[Info] Server gevonden, bezig met verbinden...20:04
Mike-Linux-NL[Info] Verbonden; bezig met inloggen...20:04
Mike-Linux-NL[Aankondiging] --*** Please wait while we scan your connection for open proxies...20:04
Mike-Linux-NL[Aankondiging] -Tyrol.GeekShed.net-*** Looking up your hostname...20:04
Mike-Linux-NL[Aankondiging] -Tyrol.GeekShed.net-*** Found your hostname (cached)20:04
Mike-Linux-NL[Aankondiging] -Tyrol.GeekShed.net-*** Checking ident...20:04
Mike-Linux-NL[Fout] Verbinding met server irc.geekshed.net (poort 6667) verloren: Onbekende fout.20:04
Mike-Linux-NL[Info] Proberen opnieuw te verbinden naar irc.geekshed.net (poort 6667) in 10 seconden.20:04
Mike-Linux-NL[Aankondiging] -Tyrol.GeekShed.net-*** No ident response; username prefixed with ~20:04
Mike-Linux-NL[CTCP] Versionverzoek ontvangen van IRC.20:04
Mike-Linux-NL[010] Mike-Linux-NL irc.geekshed.net 6667 Please use this Server/Port instead20:04
Mike-Linux-NL[error] Closing Link: Mike-Linux-NL[dhcp-077-248-210-051.chello.nl] (This server is full.)20:04
Mike-Linux-NLoops20:04
evopilotwowzer, gotta give that go!20:04
Mike-Linux-NLhttp://www.remastersys.com/ubuntu.html this is what i ment to paste20:04
servaascopy root to usb ?20:04
evopilotwould this also copy grub?20:08
servaasyou can use "dd" for that isnt it but that is powerfull tool you can also erase your install with it20:10
servaashttp://www.debianhelp.co.uk/ddcommand.htm20:12
evopilotooer..looks a little scary..eek20:15
servaasif you have a spare harddrive you can make a copy and swap them20:17
toraxwell, I´d use clonezilla20:21
evopilotI have that on a cd20:22
servaasbut clone zilla has imitations20:26
servaaslimitations* like remastersys it has to fit on one cd or dvd20:26
servaasLimitations:    The destination partition must be equal or larger than the source one.   Differential/incremental backup is not implemented yet.   Online imaging/cloning is not implemented yet. The partition to be imaged or cloned has to be unmounted.   Software RAID/fake RAID/firmware RAID is not supported by default. It's can be done manually only.   Due to the image format limitation, the image can not be  explored or mounted. You can _NOT_ recovery si20:27
toraxyes, clonezilla is not perfect20:31
toraxwhat has to fit on cd or dvd?20:31
servaasall what you want to backup20:32
toraxwhy would it have to fit on dvd?20:32
servaasRecovery Clonezilla live with multiple CDs or DVDs is not  implemented yet20:33
toraxwell yes if your source is dvd20:33
David-AIf we are talking about Mike's problem it was about copying the system (excluding home) for later restore.20:33
David-AAs I understod it20:33
servaasyes david20:34
toraxI use local device to store my clonezilla images20:36
servaasbut i would rather have an xubuntu iso,  the home in a backup and maybe a list of package that i use in a textfile20:36
servaasif you have a bigger target medium like a drive or partition there is no problem20:37
toraxcopy of home and maybe /etc and list of packages sounds like a good plan20:38
toraxMike-Linux-NL: norton ghost can span the partition image to multiple dvd20:40
toraxbut it is commercial software20:40
servaasyou can also use windows 7 backup to backup the whole dualboot system i think it can backup to multiple dvd's20:41
David-AIf no extra harddrive is available and a dvd is too small, I'd copy all files to a usb-thumb (formatted with ext2 or ext4) and restore uuid:s and grub manually after a restore. (the latter may be less trivial for a newbee)20:42
servaasyou copy the whole root to a usb key ?20:43
David-Aservaas: I think so, why not?20:45
David-AToo slow?20:45
servaasi have nothing against i think it works well only you have to install a bootloader after restoring i dont know how to do that20:45
toraxservaas: are you sure windows7 would backup ext4 partitions?20:46
servaastorax good question20:47
servaasi have my hdd in 4 parts 3 ntfs and one ext4 and when i restore the backup it also restored the ext4 partition but that partition was empty when i made the back up so i am not sure how that would perform with an actual install on it20:48
servaasback from #backup to #xubuntu21:15
GagarinHi, I'm here to tell you that "parallel" from "moreutils" is borken. It does not do anything.22:36
GagarinIt always quits in no time and very simple stuff like seq 4|parallel echo  does nothing (And I'm sure that should print 1 2 3 and 4)22:37
TheSheep!bugs | Gagarin22:37
ubottuGagarin: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.22:37
GagarinIf it does in fact behave as it should it is the worst command i've ever seen since it ever gives error messages22:37
TheSheepthis is a community channel, if you want the actual devs to read your bug report, report it in the bug tracker22:38
nantouis 12.10 unstable? I just upgraded23:07
nantouwhat problems have you met so far?23:07
toraxKnown issues23:09
toraxThe messaging indicator is not available for 12.1023:09
toraxDuplicated partitions might be shown at Thunar sidebar and the desktop23:09
sdollinsThe menu editor doesn't work23:10
sdollinsYou can remove it and install the version from 12.04 though23:11
xubuntu218opa23:51
xubuntu218alguem do brasil?23:51
recon_lap!#ubuntu-br23:54
recon_lapnever mind , gone anyway. goodnight :P23:54

Generated by irclog2html.py 2.7 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!