[01:08] hey guys i'm getting crashes when i try to extract files using the package manager [01:08] anyone know how to solve that one? [01:09] sudo apt-get clean might help [01:14] okay,once i'm done doing what i'm doing i'll give that a try thank you :) [02:28] hello, [02:29] How does we know whether a page is served locally or not? [02:30] I mean, if I visited http://192.168.1.1 in my machine, does this page served from my computer? [02:33] or http://localhost [02:34] or http://127.0.0.1 [02:35] matematikaadit: 192.168.1.1 is usually adsl modems or any other devices that acts as hub [02:35] its a lan ip you can only access from your network [02:37] hi guys, im looking for a software based volume amplifier [02:38] for example, vlc can amp volume beyond 100% with software amp. im looking for the same functionality to be able to add to the basic desktop mixer [02:57] alsamixer does that [02:57] i mean pavucontrol [02:57] :/ [02:58] pavucontrol [02:58] launching synaptic now :) [03:00] ohh i already have it installed. i must be using alsa by default\ [03:03] hello [03:30] * studio12 12.04.1 Installer: "Executing 'grub-install /dev/sda' failed. This is a fatal error." [03:45] studio12: does your computer has UEFI? [03:45] currently looking to try this: http://www.av8n.com/computer/htm/grub-reinstall.htm [03:45] no UEFI [03:56] when i open an html document locally, what command was executed? [03:56] firefox %U ? [03:56] am i correct? [03:56] xubuntu 12.10 [03:58] nvm bye [04:29] anyone here feel like saving a n00b from utter failure? [04:30] tried to install ubuntu on SD card, while leaving win7 untouched on hd0. now it only boots to grub rescue or live cd [04:34] xubuntu103: i would recover the mbr in windows [04:34] take the sd card out. fix windows.. then you can decide what you want to do [04:34] !grub [04:34] GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10) [04:34] you can alwasy refer to that and just install grub and let it boot both of them [04:36] ok i'm on a netbook...no cd drive. i have 2 sd card slots. [04:36] xubuntu103: im not sure how microsoft will allow you to recover the mbr, but thats what you have broken [04:37] what would i do? just install ubuntu beside windows.. it'll shrink it down and install grub and boot both [04:37] somehow i managed to install xubuntu on to sd2. win7 hasn't changed, is on hd. i'm on sd1 running live xubuntu [04:37] xubuntu103: you should consider what might happen though, and always have backups and ways to reinstall [04:37] xubuntu103: i doubt win7 changed, though you could have broken it.. i think you just borked the mbr [04:38] ok lets see...how can i troubleshoot the mbr? [04:38] as a side note, i did try to browse to my hd win7 so i could grab some data and upload it to dropbox...but it fails to mount the drive [04:39] btw, thx for helping me [04:40] what fails to mount what? the live CD wont mount the ntfs partition? [04:40] that is correct. live "CD" which is actually on sd card won't mount the ntfs with win7 on it [04:41] xubuntu103: whats the error? i would probably test the drive [04:42] here's the error: "Adding read ACL for uid 999 to `/media/xubuntu' failed: Operation not supported" [04:42] xubuntu103: how are you trying to mount it? [04:42] i get the same error when trying to open the other sd card that has desktop version of xubuntu [04:42] double clicking on it [04:44] xubuntu103: if it were me, and i were worried about the windows install, i would fix it.. i would recover the mbr.. maybe try and force a chkdsk or whatever that was [04:46] well, if i can get xubuntu figured out, i would like to use it. it's waaaay faster on my netbook than win7. but i gotta get the data off first. [04:46] anyway, any tips or link on recovering mbr? [04:47] xubuntu103: theres just the one tip AFAIK.. i have used the windows install disc to recover it.. not sure if there are other tools [04:47] http://askubuntu.com/questions/183799/fix-windows-mbr-using-ubuntu-live-cd might be relevant [04:47] i have only ever used a windows disk [04:48] thx. well i will poke around and see if i can find a win disk. maybe my manuf. put it on a partition. [04:48] xubuntu103: i would be trying some other live CD's and try and mount that ntfs partition [04:48] thx for the help.. i'll research those options [04:48] xubuntu103: i hope you havent lost anything... its a good idea to backup before. even though you were trying to be safe [04:48] xubuntu103: i used to unplug the hard drive.. the internal one.. and install to SD cards [04:49] everything critical was already backed up. there is work stuff that i might need, but haven't used in the past month that isn't backed up [04:49] xubuntu103: you still should be able to install grub somewhere and just boot all the os's that are there and showing up [04:49] xubuntu103: makes me wonder why the partitions are mounting though... good luck! [04:49] arent* [04:49] ha i did that on my old laptop. but this one has the ssd right on the mobo. argh asus! [04:51] ok i'm gonna go google this stuff and see what i can find out. thanks again! [05:16] hi. i fresh installed 12.04 to an acer travelmate 2700 series with a 3gz cpu and 750 mb ram and runs smoothly except that too often during browsing (either with chromium or firefox) the system freezes and needs restart using power on/off button. Any idea on that issue? === user__ is now known as ilias [05:24] <[JJ]Albert> I have no sound here in Xubuntu 12.10. [05:24] <[JJ]Albert> Tried reinstalling alsa-base, but it still does not work. [05:25] <[JJ]Albert> I installed it on top of 12.04. where sound was running fine after a few crowbars to the occasional sound driver issues. [05:26] <[JJ]Albert> But yes, sound is not working. ALSA, that is. [05:29] how come my server (http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=2776) reboots faster than my client(http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?cc=us&lc=en&dlc=en&docname=c03349988)? [05:31] server xubuntu 12.04 client, xubuntu 12.10 [05:31] <[JJ]Albert> hmm, dunno [05:32] <[JJ]Albert> I am hoping someone has a simple explanation of how I can troubleshoot my audio issues with ALSA. [05:32] <[JJ]Albert> Here in Xubuntu 12.10. [05:34] <[JJ]Albert> I'll brb, gonna reset. mebbe it'll be fixed since I tried alsa-base one more time, again. :p === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [05:37] <[JJ]Albert> Nope, audio is still broken. [05:37] <[JJ]Albert> Here in 12.10 [05:37] <[JJ]Albert> ALSA 1.0.25, I think. Whatever the latest one is. [05:37] <[JJ]Albert> That may be it. [05:37] <[JJ]Albert> Any ideas? [05:38] <[JJ]Albert> Oh yeah, and my soundchip is the Realtek ALC889. [05:39] <[JJ]Albert> Anyone? [05:43] <[JJ]Albert> Alright, this MIGHT be a bug which has affected me: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/1033233 [05:43] Launchpad bug 1033233 in alsa-driver (Ubuntu) "[iMac9,1, Realtek ALC889A, Speaker, Internal] No sound at all with kernel 3.5.0" [Medium,Confirmed] [05:45] <[JJ]Albert> And it probably is close, except I'm not on an imac, but a built system with a GIGABYTE GA-A75M-D2H [05:45] <[JJ]Albert> Again, no sound with ALSA on Xubuntu 12.10, with a Realtek ALC889 soundchip. [05:46] <[JJ]Albert> Anyone got a clue what I should do? Besides reinstalling alsa, which has cured nothing. [05:46] <[JJ]Albert> I'm reading into this myself, so it's not hopeless. [05:46] <[JJ]Albert> Just annoying. [05:48] <[JJ]Albert> It's starting to become hopeless though, not to mention taxing. [05:48] <[JJ]Albert> Again, no sound with ALSA on Xubuntu 12.10, with a Realtek ALC889 soundchip. Already tried reinstalling ALSA, but no dice. [05:48] <[JJ]Albert> (Not meaning to repeat myself, just when new people come in) === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [05:53] <[JJ]Albert> Oh, hold on. I think I may be onto something. Pulseaudio was reinstalled, which possibly ruined the whole thing for me. [05:53] <[JJ]Albert> Purging that and restarting again. But not before reinstalling ALSA... AGAIN. [05:57] <[JJ]Albert> Nope. :( [05:57] <[JJ]Albert> This is, and I won't lie, getting irritating. ALSA not working. ALC889. 12.10. [05:58] <[JJ]Albert> Any advice? [06:24] hi all. on afriend's notebook which runs 12.04 was choosed to log-in without a 'display session on login'. now we want to add 'lubuntu' to make the system lighter. On startup how can we force the system to load lubuntu and not xubuntu? [06:36] <[JJ]Albert> install lubuntu stuff [06:36] <[JJ]Albert> In synaptic [06:36] <[JJ]Albert> Lubuntu core, I think. [06:36] <[JJ]Albert> Restart [06:37] <[JJ]Albert> In login screen, select the list tab saying "Xubuntu session" and swap it out for something "lubuntu" [06:37] <[JJ]Albert> Uh, does that answer your question? Sorry I'm not real wordy right now. Going through my own problem ATM. [06:43] Albert: i dont have login screen how can i enable it? [06:46] hmm [06:47] it seems xubuntu is not working correctly with my printer [06:48] ok. we fixed it. [06:51] yeah... it wont print anything :-/ === PoorCollegeGuy is now known as PCG|Sleep [07:14] Hi fellows, I'm trying to install Xubuntu 12.04 and/or 12.10 on Samsung q550 tablet - without any success. On 12.04 there is problem with Xubuntu booting to access the instalation proccess (the same on desktop and alternate version). On 12.10 there is success in installing, but there is no chance to launch gui (xde). Do you have any similar experience with Samsung q550? thanks! [07:24] xubuntu893: try that http://askubuntu.com/questions/38780/how-to-set-nomodeset-for-installation [09:22] hi is anyione here? [09:22] hi | chaotixx [09:23] i did a fresh install of xubuntu 12.04 off of a usb... wired networking worked fine but wireless did not... saw online and for my broadcom adapter it was a prob [09:23] so i upgraded to 12.10 in the terminal [09:23] and now, the computer has no networking, wired or wireless [09:23] hi TheSheep [09:23] Hi I have installed xubuntu with Spanish keyboard layout. But I have a keyboard in English, and sometimes I need to switch to English keyboard. How I can make the switch from keyboard using a keyboard shortcut? [09:24] chaotixx: does it see the network devices? [09:25] in the terminal, yes... in the network manager icon on the xfce panel, no [09:25] i can pastebin a lspci output [09:25] chaotixx: I'm more interested in 'ifconfig -a' [09:25] ok [09:26] oh i cant pastebin :( [09:26] no internet on that one [09:26] but it says... [09:26] well, what should i look for [09:26] sry [09:27] lspci shows both adapters at the bottem... and ifconfig -alooks exactly like ifconfig [09:27] lo is the only section [09:28] and i just tried ifconfig eth0 up [09:28] no avail [09:28] but theres no such devices [09:28] chaotixx: so it does't see the network devices [09:28] no [09:28] just lo [09:28] chaotixx: it just sees the network card as a pci card [09:29] no eth or wlan [09:29] is that what lo means [09:29] ? [09:29] i had no idea what lo was [09:29] loopback [09:29] oh ok [09:29] it's the 127.0.0.1 [09:29] ohh [09:29] local host right? [09:29] yeah [09:29] anyways, if you do lsmod [09:29] what can i do? [09:29] do you have the network modules loaded? [09:30] i dont think they are [09:30] unless.. what type of name would it have [09:30] bcma? b43? [09:31] nope [09:31] howd you know ii have broadcom b43... [09:31] I have it too [09:31] yeah this is crazzy [09:31] it's a macbook :( [09:32] did you add anything to module blacklists? [09:32] no [09:32] never heard of mod blacklists [09:32] can you look through 'dmesg | less' and see when it's trying to detect networking devices? [09:32] any errors there? [09:33] HI guys, once more i just pas here to say that Xubuntu for me is more like a ... im really happy to know that xubuntu exist. [09:34] balgkarbr: cool, we are happy too [09:34] some things have *ERROR* im not sure tho [09:34] it was deff not less than dmesg [09:34] The perfect OS.Just a pendrive and i make my computer sings [09:34] there were too many lines to go back and look thru [09:34] chaotixx: you can search with / [09:35] ok... what to search for [09:35] chaotixx: 'n' takes you to the next place [09:35] error [09:35] 'net' maybe? [09:35] ok [09:35] patterm not found ((press RETURN) is what it said [09:35] when i searched for net [09:35] the command is 'dmesg | less' with the pipe character in the middle [09:36] less lets you scroll [09:36] yup i did that [09:37] and i know i am searching the way u told me too because i tried some things i could see first... and now i am trying stuff like b43 broadcom net [09:37] i dont know how this happenned [09:38] my guess it that it didn't update completely [09:38] i could re install 12.04 again.... thats still on the usb sticl [09:38] or i could make a 12.10 usb stick [09:38] yeah, we will get to that if we can't fix it [09:38] it deff updated... i had to press y to restart [09:38] ok [09:38] btw, is it a macbook? [09:38] no [09:38] it is a dell inspiron [09:38] deff? [09:38] older one [09:38] yeah [09:39] what is 'deff'? [09:39] definately [09:39] sorry [09:40] ah, sorry, not a native speaker [09:40] what is your other language? [09:40] if it updated, then it should still have the older kernel there [09:40] Polish [09:40] i see [09:40] nice [09:40] so you could boot that older kernel and see if it works [09:41] how? i dont have grub installed [09:41] you can get to the kenel menu by holding down shift during boot [09:41] ok [09:41] you have grub installed [09:41] without grub it wouldn't boot [09:41] ook [09:41] i thought that was only for dual boot [09:41] im learning a lot tonite [09:41] :) [09:41] no, it's always tehre [09:41] thanks [09:42] if it works with the older kernel, try following the steps to get yor wireless working with it [09:42] GRUB LOADING!! [09:42] yay [09:42] !networking [09:42] "!networking" in the term? [09:42] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx [09:42] sorry [09:43] do you use xubuntu as well? [09:43] yes [09:43] i never got a grub menu [09:43] !grub [09:43] GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10) [09:44] well if i did it didnt show up/..... the computer i use is a pos, and i have the vga cord hooked up to a tv as it has no monitor... it is an old inspiron laptop with no screeen [09:44] so sometimes, like when i am booting up, the screen goes off till a gui part [09:44] chaotixx: try esc instead, maybe... [09:45] ah [09:45] that sucks [09:45] when i was booting i hit shift.. and then it said grub loading [09:45] and then i got a black screen [09:45] and then xubuntu loaded [09:45] i knowww [09:45] i think i lost this round [09:45] lol [09:45] you can enable grub menu [09:45] but it wont show on my tv [09:45] in /etc/defaults/grub [09:45] lol [09:45] it will be a blank screen till i get to gui [09:46] if it showed 'grub loading' [09:46] then it should show [09:46] worth a try anyways [09:46] i would think so, but theres a lot of stuff it shows and then unshows [09:46] even if it doesn't show, you could try to use it blindly [09:46] maybe i could after it says grub loading and the screen goes black, just press 'down' and then enter? [09:47] but after all this, I think that a reinstall might be the quickest way to get it working [09:47] yeah [09:47] the question is, what should i install with [09:47] !install [09:47] Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? See http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate [09:47] i used xubuntu because of my limitations [09:47] i meant what distro this time [09:47] lol [09:47] ah [09:47] sorry' [09:47] well, that's up to you [09:47] i could do it again [09:48] or go with something else [09:48] i am getting a bit used to xubuntu [09:48] lxde wasnt my fav [09:48] you could try mint, maybe they have the broadcom working out of the box [09:48] they do [09:48] but i have a lot of limitations [09:48] i dunno... mate might be too slow [09:48] im thinking of just using xbmcubtu [09:49] or xbmc live [09:49] can't help you there [09:49] but i wanted a distro behind it [09:49] just try a couple [09:49] im going ubuntu based [09:49] i might look for the lightest version of mint [09:49] i like mint [09:49] been using it since v10 [09:49] I think they have a version based on debian too [09:50] lmde [09:50] its called i think [09:50] im gonna try making an xubuntu 12.10 install first [09:50] but these are all good ideas here [09:51] i wish i could just run unity or gnome 3 on this box [09:51] it would be perfect on my tv [09:51] its a big screen [09:51] i appreciate greatly the help [09:51] thank you [09:52] and all the best to you, TheSheep [09:52] thanks, same to you [09:53] i wonder if mint xfce is to mint what xubuntu is to ubuntu [09:53] that would suck [09:53] but ill try it out [09:53] well, only suck for me [09:53] xubuntu is ok [10:12] lol wth was that guy on about? [10:12] was he on drugs or something? [10:12] haha [10:13] lestus, excuse me, but how was that relevant for a support channel? [10:13] knome, apologies, it wasn't === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [11:55] hello? [11:56] I just installed Xubuntu and found out that there is no automatic wireless detection. Or is it certain that Xubuntu doesn't coe with pre-built drivers [11:56] for xubuntu by default? [11:59] forget this i'm out [12:08] Hello [12:08] Anyone here? [12:10] no [12:10] irony :p [12:20] after hibernating my laptop when i open the lid and press the power button to resume , does the hibernated state of the os stored in the swap get automatically deleted ? [12:22] stupid but genuine question ;) [14:12] is this outdated? http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-convert-bincue-files-to-iso-in-ubuntu.html [14:12] should I use something else? [14:14] no idea [14:14] it might justs work [14:20] I ended up having to fix a xubuntu install of a friend. He has been messing with the display settings, and now when the computer boots up, everything is just black. He did it from inside of xfce. Where is the configuration file stored? [14:20] I can not find the usual /etc/X11/xorg.conf [14:20] there should not be one [14:20] not since like 2006 [14:20] Where is it stored then? [14:21] how is everything black? [14:21] does he gets to the lightdm greeter? [14:21] If I do a normal booting, I can see the pre-X splash. Then it turns black [14:21] i mean is he asked for user/password? [14:22] Nope. And he had automatic login, so it is normally never getting to whatever *dm it was running. [14:22] ok, can you get to a tty and see if X are running? [14:23] Right now I have booted it up in single user mode, wanting to edit whatever file you change when you change the resolution from the "settings" menu. [14:27] ~/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/displays.xml [14:27] mrcarrot: ^^^ [14:32] GridCube: Thanks! [14:52] i have no trash in thunar and gvfs is installed what can i do [14:52] servaas: ? [14:52] !details [14:52] Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..." [14:53] i i open thunar there is no trash icon in the sidepanel [14:53] how do I open a img file? [14:54] i run xubuntu 12.10 i try to acces the trash in thunar but there is no icon to click on [14:54] servaas: do you have write persmissions? [14:54] nantou: what type of img file, there are several [14:54] how can i check for write permissions ? [14:55] nantou: what do you want to do with the img file? [14:55] microsoft attributre definition file [14:55] I want to open it [14:56] would it be easier to make an iso out of it? [14:56] !img [14:57] nantou: doesnt xfburn opens it? [14:58] Hi. I've installed Xubuntu on my eeepc but I had to reboot 4 or 5 times today until the screen would show something (be it X or a console). Is this a known issue ? [14:59] my trash icon magically reappeared in thunar so the problem is solved but the reason why it disappeared is unknown [14:59] servaas: you dindt had write permissions [14:59] i did no change permissions [15:00] spow: have you checked the logs? [15:00] servaas: you dont have to, they should be automatically granted [15:00] i did add the trash plugin to the panel maybe that helped i was able to access the trash that way [15:00] is xfburn a default app? [15:01] nantou: it should [15:01] in xubuntu it is [15:03] ok gridcube [15:04] servaas: i dont really know if that helped or not [15:04] :) [15:05] but good you got it working === larry is now known as Guest55307 [15:08] hi, i just installed xubuntu 12.10 and it looks great.I have an issue though, i don't have a mail icon for thunderbird in indicator plugin and i can not edit the menu.Does anybody had these issues [15:09] was the messaging indicator plugin not removed in 12.10 ? [15:10] I have the same issue of not being able to edit my menu. [15:10] have any of you read the release notes? [15:10] I didn;t [15:11] i did partly but forgot most [15:11] http://xubuntu.org/news/12-10-release/ [15:12] i can add the applications menu right click it and choose properties and edit the menu i edited out the games menu [15:13] Chad__: there is an option for editing the Main Menu on Settings, you can launch it from alt-f2 searching alacarte as well [15:13] GridCube: That's the problem. Alacarte doesn't work. [15:13] release notes : Known Issues Applications The messaging indicator is not available for 12.10 [15:14] you can not start alacarte [15:14] Chad__: how "doesnt work"? [15:15] servaas: I can start it, but I cannot remove items from being shown. [15:15] Chad__: launch it from a terminal and see what the log is [15:15] Me too,can not edit menu [15:15] you can not remove checkmarks or you can not save the changes ? [15:16] i can not save the changes [15:16] servaas: I can remove checkmarks, but they come back after I exit Alacarte. [15:16] and if you start it from terminal with sudo ? [15:18] servaas: http://pastebin.com/zrutvxpi [15:18] servaas: No [15:19] gi._glib.GError: Failed to look up menu_file for "applications.menu" << that is too high for me [15:20] those errors show when you try to save? or change something? or just when you open? [15:20] GridCube: just when attempting to open with sudo. [15:20] dont sudo it [15:20] if you sudo it will try to change the menu for root and root doesnt have a menu [15:21] GridCube: It opens without sudo, but it won't save the changes I make. [15:22] yes, i want to see what errors it logs then [15:22] GridCube: I know this is a stupid question, but where will those errors be logged? [15:23] in the terminal you use to launch it [15:23] GridCube: In that case, there are no errors shown. [15:23] maybe you need to provide the path to the file ? [15:24] i see [15:27] servaas: Chad__ plat https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alacarte/+bug/1069207 [15:27] Launchpad bug 1069207 in alacarte (Ubuntu) "Unable to edit or add items to main menu" [Undecided,Confirmed] [15:28] please report your issues to the tracker :) [15:28] so the bug only affects some user [15:28] but i did a fresh install not an upgrade [15:28] amd64 users apparently [15:29] i have intel incide (r) (c) [15:30] GridCube: Thanks. I've never reported a bug before. What instructions must I follow? [15:31] Chad__: you need a launchpad account, its free to get one, then you report it as a forum message, if you are reporting something new you should use the ubuntu-bug program that is preinstalled on your computer [15:32] try to add all the information you think is important, like the outputs of uname -a for example [15:33] GridCube: Alright, thanks a lot! [15:34] servaas: if a microprocesor uses the 64bit arch it doesnt matter if its intel or whoever, the software is known as amd64 [15:35] ok i am 32 bit [15:35] then report that you are experiencing this issue aswell please [15:35] and add your arch information [15:35] and all what you think is relevant [15:35] but it works for me [15:36] P: then you dont have to report anything [15:38] !info menulibre [15:38] Package menulibre does not exist in quantal [15:39] Chad__: you can try this: http://www.smdavis.us/projects/menulibre/ [15:39] but is the 32 and 64 bit package not compiled from the same source ? [15:40] GridCube: I'll use that in the meantime, I guess. [15:40] how do I upgrade to 12.10? I can download a torrent from the official site, the iso file, but then? will I have the option to upgrade without deleting the contents of my laptop? [15:42] nantou , The update manager GUI will offer you 12.10 Xubuntu (it shows as Ubuntu, but updates Xubuntu); Alternatively, launch a Terminal and enter sudo do-release-upgrade [15:43] ok [15:43] Chad__: you can do it manually aswel: http://wiki.xfce.org/howto/customize-menu [15:45] servaas, the command line option: Checking for a new Ubuntu release [15:45] No new release found, but it is 12.04 the one I have [15:46] nantou: do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [15:47] GridCube: I may just have to do that. MenuLibre isn't appearing in my menu. And I don't know what command to issue at the terminal to run it. [15:47] sorry, it was my fault, I had ot configured to show only long term support upgrades [15:48] Chad__: i would bet you 25 cents right now that its menulibre on a terminal [15:48] the fastest way to upgrade is a fresh installation, right? [15:48] yes [15:48] and safer [15:48] i cannot do that, unfortunately... [15:49] GridCube: I was surprised too. It's not menulibre [15:49] maybe only lts upgrades are selected in the sources editor [15:50]