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xixorlordievader: what is your main machine, if you don't mind me asking00:09
RafaleMhey people, i just installed quassel irc, does anybody know if I can take the irc server[s] list from xchat irc and put them here?00:18
RafaleMI remember Xchat had a great list00:18
TheLordOfTimeRafaleM, i'm not sure that list ports that easily between the two00:20
TheLordOfTimei havent tested, but...00:20
RafaleMmaybe an import and an export option would be sufficient, but I think they haven't anyone00:21
RafaleMi'm on kubuntu now, trying to use only (or at least mostly) kde apps00:22
RafaleMmaybe it would be easily only to install xchat00:23
TheLordOfTimexchat can run on Kubuntu :P00:24
TheLordOfTimenot very pretty-ish but...00:24
TheLordOfTimeit can run :P00:24
TheLordOfTime(me, i do most stuff in command line anyways, so its irrelevant whether I'm on Kubuntu or what not... irssi ftw)00:24
RafaleMyeah, it can, i'm downloading it =D00:31
RafaleMoxygen-gtk theme fix it a little00:31
RafaleMyou're like 80% of the time on the shell?00:32
RafaleMI wonder how is to be like that, should be cool (:00:32
TheLordOfTimei'm 95% of the time in a TTY :P00:35
TheLordOfTimenot even in a GUI :P00:35
TheLordOfTimei dont have a GUI run at boot time :P00:35
TheLordOfTimei manually start my GUI of choice :P00:35
RafaleMo/00:39
RafaleMwhat kind if things do you do?00:39
RafaleMi can't imagine living without a GUI...only citing the web with his e-mails and social networks...so difficult to access it all without a GUI00:39
TheLordOfTimemostly development work, right now working on the nginx web server and php5 backend to fix a ton of bugs :P00:41
TheLordOfTimeso i don't need a GUI for that00:41
TheLordOfTimei didn't say i don't run without one though00:41
TheLordOfTimei just manually start the one of my choosing :P00:42
RafaleMgot it...and I think your preferred one is KDE, right? (:00:47
TheLordOfTimedepends on what i'm doing :PO00:47
RafaleMi'm studying computer science now, maybe one day I should only use tty too =p00:47
* TheLordOfTime has several GUIs installed and available for use00:47
TheLordOfTimewell, TTy-only's not for everyone :P00:48
RafaleMcd, grep, vim, ls, gcc...I think these are the basic commands that I know and use within the shell sometimes00:49
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larryatlanta ga anyone?01:10
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N9NUcan someone tell me if other....lighter/resource friendly...desktop environments are included with the 12.10 CD ISO....other than KDE01:33
N9NUlike Xf, Openbox, Lxde, etc.01:34
tsimpsonN9NU: if you want xfce download xubuntu, for you want lxde download lubuntu01:34
N9NUoh okay...so this one just uses KDE then01:35
tsimpsonKubuntu use KDE only, yes01:35
N9NUok great....tnx01:36
tsimpsonyou're welcome01:36
chronossomeone is experiencing Kubuntu Desktop starting winows with HUGE maximize buttons, alwasy maximized with any window decoration, and very large scrollbars02:53
OerHekssounds like a gtk theme-behaviour02:56
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Roeyhey all04:26
RoeyI am running PowerTOP and see that LightDM is taking up >30 ms/s.  Why?  Why is this running at such capacity when I am already logged in? (yeah, multiuser blah blah, but this does not sound like a reasonable figure)04:28
Roey5.4 ms/s       8.2        Process        /usr/bin/X :0 -core -auth /var/run/lightdm/root/:0 -n5.4 ms/s       8.2        Process        /usr/bin/X :0 -core -auth /var/run/lightdm/root/:0 -nolisten tcp vt7 -novtswitch -backgrouolisten tcp vt7 -novtswitch -backgrou04:28
Roeyer that was 15.4 ms/s04:29
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urhi everybody!07:39
urMy kubuntu takes ages to boot .... to be precise more than 90s.07:40
urPlus the time for KDE (4.9.2) .... again ages07:40
urI have to wait nearly 3m before starting to use it.07:40
ur12.04 with kde 4.9.2 (64bit)07:41
ur(4.8.5 was even slower)07:41
andreashey guys ... is there a tool for linux where i can watch/snip stuff on ebay without opening the browser09:18
oneadventanyone elses konsole locking up while trying to select text? 12.10 here09:20
anubishello, i have problems with the fglrx drivers. glxinfo says Major opcode of failed request:  154 (GLX), minor opcode 1910:01
anubisi have hybrid graphicc intel hd3000 and amd 6600M10:01
anubiscan someone help me with fglrx drivers plz?10:09
lordievaderanubis: I doubt I'm going to be much help.. But how did you install the fglrx driver?10:10
anubisvia amds script10:10
anubisi downloaded it from their site10:10
lordievaderanubis: The jockey didn't give a recommendation?10:10
FernandoBassoHello, I have a friend who upgraded to 12.10 and got some serious trouble with emacs dependencies. Looking on the internet we could not find a solution. Has a solutin been found yet?10:11
anubislordievader: what jockey? ^^10:11
lordievaderanubis: It's also called "Additional Drivers" you can start it by running  the command "jockey-kde" from a terminal.10:12
anubisno chance. it detects two drivers and results in the same10:12
anubisrestarting x, mom plz10:14
lordievaderanubis: Read this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=193045010:16
anubisfalling backon intel graphics via aticonfig works fine. only my dedicated graphix does not work10:17
anubiswow thx, my computer is in the list10:18
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COMECONHi10:30
lordievaderHey COMECON, how are you?10:30
DemonWitchHey i got a laptop that uses 2 gpus, one integrated shared memory (intel) and one exclusive memory main gpu (nvidia). As a result the livecd shows blackscreen. What can i do?10:38
KvaksWhat's the concensus on Kubuntu 12.10? Good or bad release?10:45
KvaksI have installed it on three PCs, two of which are experiencing really severe bugs.10:45
Kvaks12.04 was smooth sailing in both cases.10:46
Tm_TKvaks: this isn't really a poll channel (:10:46
KvaksWho said anything about a poll?10:47
Tm_Tyour first question was about concensus, if you have technical questions (how to fix something) this is the right place (:10:48
KvaksYes, I was wondering if there existed an already established, common opinion on the release in the community. Is that really off topic?10:50
KvaksThat's anything but a poll, by the way.10:50
urlwolfhow do I upgrade to kubuntu 12.10? Muon doesn't show upgrade...11:04
urlwolfI followed the instructions on the wiki11:05
lordievaderurlwolf: Is the update checker set to regular updates instead of LTS?11:05
urlwolfyes11:06
lordievaderurlwolf: Did you update the system and reboot?11:06
urlwolfyes11:06
urlwolftwice11:06
lordievaderurlwolf: What does the command: sudo do-release-upgrade give you?11:07
urlwolfthat seems to work11:08
urlwolffound quantal11:08
urlwolfError authenticating some packages11:09
urlwolfnm11:10
urlwolfworking now11:10
urlwolflordievader: thanks11:10
lordievaderurlwolf: And yet another reason not to use Muon ;)11:11
Jekylloneadvent: see https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30633811:14
ubottuKDE bug 306338 in copy-paste "konsole freezes when i select text" [Critical,Unconfirmed]11:14
yofellordievader: that usually works though, so I wonder what went wrong11:15
lordievaderyofel: I don't use Muon, I wouldn't know what went wrong, but something did went wrong.11:16
yofelyeah :/11:16
afiefHello, I'm on Kubuntu 12.04 and am wondering how stable the upgrade to 12.10 will be, considering that I have a Radeon 3200 (ATI RS780M/RS780MN) graphic card11:20
lordievaderafief: I have the 3850, the fglrx driver in 12.10 didn't work for me, however the open-source driver works fine. So if you don't need to closed-source one the upgrade is fine.11:25
afieflordievader: How's the power management of the open source driver? I think I tried last year and my laptop simply overheated (with regular web surfing, nothing more)11:26
lordievaderafief: I run the HD3850 in a desktop, so I wouldn't know.11:27
afieflordievader: thanks, guess I'll hold off on the upgrade until I get enough time to recover in case 12.10 doesn't work out11:28
lordievaderafief: No problem, good luck in advance with the upgrade.11:28
afieflordievader: Thanks, if you don't mind, I am thinking of buying a desktop with a Radeon card, do you know where I can find which cards are supported by the OSS driver?11:30
lordievaderafief: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radeon11:31
noaXesshey all12:29
noaXesssince upgrade to 12.10 seams the xorg does use more cpu then before with 12.04...12:30
noaXessnvidia12:30
natschilHello. I'm currently trying to setup encrypted calling between two people that might both be behind a NAT. This communication is allowed to go over a server with a public ip address.  SIP is clearly not the right protocoll, and I cannot find any working iax2 clients that can also do encryption. Is jabber a protocol I should look at? (sorry the above may sound stupid, but I'm very unfamiliar with the voip world) Related question:12:32
natschilshould I even be using asterisk?12:32
natschilsorry, wrong channel12:35
natschilmy bad12:35
PasNoxHi12:36
PasNoxsince i migrated to kubuntu ( fresh install)12:36
PasNoxi can listen my hard disk doing something every 30/40 seconds12:37
PasNoxvery borind12:37
PasNoxany hint ?12:37
PasNoxit's not related to akonadi / file indexing12:37
PasNoxas they are not activated12:37
PasNoxi was not having this noise with previous install12:37
PasNoxi migrated to kubuntu quantal*12:37
lordievaderPasNox: Install iotop, that shows you what is reading/writing to your disk.12:38
PasNoxlordievader: thanks, let try12:39
PasNoxlordievader: i have about 25/75 ko/s writen12:41
PasNoxbut i can't read axactly which process is writing12:41
PasNoxi simple typed12:41
PasNoxsudo iotop12:41
PasNoxany hint please ?12:41
lordievaderPasNox: That commadn should show you what is writing, under the command field.12:42
noaXessPasNox: checkout the top command on konsole12:42
PasNoxjbd2/sdXX12:42
PasNoxlooks to be the thing writing12:42
noaXessoh. lordievader already answered ;)12:43
PasNoxand mysql is writing a lot too12:43
PasNoxlordievader: the problem is that the command is not really visible / readble as it quickly appear / diseappear12:43
PasNoxbut i can distinguish mysql / jbd2/sdXXX12:43
PasNoxwhat is jbd2 ?12:44
noaXessPasNox: what about stop mysql? sudo service mysql stop12:44
PasNoxthis will kill my started akonadi12:44
PasNoxbut let try12:44
lordievadernoaXess: Top is more for cpu/ram, iotop is usefull if you just want to know disk usage.12:44
noaXessPasNox: just to check12:44
noaXesslordievader: saw ;)12:44
lordievaderPasNox: you can use the p switch, for example iotop -p `pidof mysql`12:45
PasNoxok12:45
PasNoxhm12:45
PasNoxakonadictl stop12:45
PasNoxdoes not stop my akonadi process :/12:45
PasNoxah done12:45
PasNoxwas long xd12:45
PasNoxlordievader: mysql stoppped12:47
PasNoxbut still the noise12:47
PasNoxthe programms writing are: jbd2/sdXXX / konversation / cupsd / chromium browser12:48
PasNoxi stopped chromium12:48
lordievaderPasNox: Same command, btw it could also simply be a noisy drive. It is stil a mechanical part of the machine.12:48
PasNoxlordievader: i was using the same drive before12:49
PasNoxand never have this thing12:49
PasNoxthe drive is being written every 15/30 seconds12:49
lordievaderPasNox: Is it an old drive?12:49
PasNoxlooks not good for my disk life xD12:49
PasNoxlordievader: begin of the year12:49
lordievaderPasNox: That is odd, perhaps it has slightly moved causing something in the case to resonate?12:50
PasNoxhm i think no, i do not touched it phisically12:50
PasNoxbut it could be a point to check12:50
PasNoxlordievader: btw any clue on what is jbd2 thing ?12:51
PasNoxlooks to be journalising for my ext4 partitions ?12:51
PasNoxah12:51
PasNoxone thing i changed12:51
PasNoxbefore i was ext3 only12:51
FloodBotK1PasNox: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.12:51
PasNoxnow all partitiosn are ext412:51
lordievaderPasNox: That is what I think, however I do not know. Try google.12:51
PasNoxok12:52
PasNoxlordievader: i stoppped cupsd service now noise diseappear xD12:55
lordievaderPasNox: Did you mistake the origin of the sound?12:57
PasNoxlordievader: yes it's cupsd12:58
PasNoxif i stop12:58
PasNoxno noise12:58
PasNoxif i start12:58
PasNoxnoise is back12:58
FloodBotK1PasNox: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.12:59
PasNox:)13:01
lordievaderPasNox: What I mean is, cups is printing, is the noise coming from a printer? Also take heed of the FloodBotK1.13:02
PasNoxlordievader: no, the printer is not printing and no job is active. looks like the cupds is performing some check regulary and write something to disk. maybei n a log file13:03
lordievaderPasNox: Perhaps a good idea to watch the cups log, when the daemon is running ofcourse.13:03
PasNoxlet try13:04
PasNoxlordievader: effectively in the access_log there is constantly changing stuff13:05
PasNoxlordievader: http://paste.ubuntu.com/130953413:05
lordievaderPasNox: I know too little about cups to say anything effective.13:06
PasNoxno prroblem. u were already good help.13:07
PasNoxthanks.13:07
lordievaderPasNox: No problem :)13:08
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MonikaI am on Kubuntu 12.10. My existing user works fast. On newly created users the system is very slow. E.g. opening the K menü takes several seconds. What can I do to fix this?13:12
MonikaI have already halted other activities. I do not have separate background pictures or widget sets per desktop. No idea what else is making it slow that does not affect the existing user.13:13
PasNoxlordievader: at any glance, do u known how we deactivate a startup service in quantal ? since some release there is no kcm thing for tht, and no good documentation13:13
lordievaderPasNox: Has something to do with /etc/init(.d?) but how it is exactly, can't remember.13:15
PasNoxlordievader: ok. thanks13:16
giordanosi parla13:18
giordanosi parla italiano?13:19
lordievader!it | giordano13:19
ubottugiordano: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)13:19
saidihow to disable the icon animation when i click on an application?13:31
BluesKajHowdy all13:41
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m1chahi, Since I upgraded to Kubuntu 12.10 my mouse freezes after ~ two seconds. I have to click or scroll so it works again. the first click is interpreted and it's very annoying if I'm on an link for example14:16
m1chaCan anyone help me with this problem?14:16
urlwolfjust upgraded to 2.10 using sudo do-release-upgrade14:19
urlwolfgot a blue screen asking if I wanted to kill X to replace kdm14:19
urlwolfthen rebooted14:19
urlwolfx is gone for good14:19
urlwolfthe progress bar goes on forever14:19
urlwolfdropping on the TTY and looking at /var/log now14:20
urlwolfany idea what I could do next?14:20
m1chayou should loock at dmesg to see if it was a panic or something rebooted. But I don't know if "old" dmesg's are logged anywhere14:21
urlwolfah14:22
urlwolfI found something14:22
yofelfor starters look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log14:22
urlwolflooks like killing X interrupted the upgrade14:22
urlwolfso I had to do dpkg -a something14:23
urlwolfand it seems to be continuing the upgrade14:23
urlwolfbut for non-techies, their system die there14:23
yofelIf I remember the process right, it shouldn't have asked you to kill X in the first place :(14:24
urlwolfthat blue screen about kdm shouldn't be there if it breaks the upgrade process :)14:24
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urlwolfok14:24
urlwolfit says 'errors where encountered during processing:14:24
urlwolfkde-workspace-bin14:24
urlwolfkubuntu-desktop14:25
yofeltry 'sudo apt-get install -f' now14:25
MonikaKubuntu 12.10 is fast on the main user and really slow on newly created users, on one opening the K menu takes 20 seconds, on the other about 3-5 seconds14:25
Monikawhat could make one user slow and the other not?14:25
yofeldo what it wants to do, and after that make sure kubuntu-desktop is still installed14:25
MonikaI do not have additional desktop effects activated and I do not have multiple activities or multiple widget sets14:25
urlwolfit says 'dependency problems'14:25
urlwolfbut apt-get force gets going14:26
urlwolfso how do I bring X up?14:26
yofel'sudo service kdm start' once it's fixed14:27
urlwolfno service kdm restart, I take :(14:27
m1chaMonika: If noone has a idea you could diff the profiles. A dirty why to search for problems :P14:27
urlwolfthere's no kdm anymore14:27
urlwolfnow it's lightdm14:27
m1cha*why=way14:27
yofelthen use lightdm14:27
MonikaWhich file is the profile file?14:27
urlwolfwhich initiated this clusterfuck14:27
m1chaMonika: all file sunder /home/USERNAME I don't know if there are more files14:28
m1chabut you can exlude things like documents,downods,...14:28
m1chamostly the hidden files(which starts with a point) are interesting14:29
urlwolfso I have to do this again on another kubuntu partition (this one was the test partition; because we all know how life is, I keep a test partition)14:29
urlwolfwhen I see the blue screen asking me something about kdm, what do I say?14:30
m1chaurlwolf: In my opinion an USBHDD or USB-Stick is much more practical to test linux-based operating systems :)14:31
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urlwolfm1cha: so what's the workaround to this kdm fuckup?14:31
urlwolfSay 'no'?14:31
MonikaSo there is no known bug with this?14:31
urlwolfmaybe I don't get lightdm then14:31
yofelurlwolf: do say no I would say. but lightdm is the official default in 12.1014:32
urlwolfwhy is this blue screen even there?14:32
urlwolfIt's going to lose many users14:33
yofelnot sure, I *thought* it was excorcised years ago14:33
urlwolfwho don't know how to unfuck it after that point14:33
bazhang!language > urlwolf14:33
ubottuurlwolf, please see my private message14:33
m1chayou could look at the source to see what they changed to switch to lightdm14:33
Monikado I need to diff each manually?14:34
Monikaor can I somehow diff all files14:34
m1chau can use Meld14:34
ManDayWhich program/protocol has a client for BOTH, Kubuntu and Windows (7) and supports Audio & Video?14:34
BluesKajManDay, if you mean open source cross platform , try VLC14:37
ManDayBluesKaj: I mean communication14:37
ManDaySorry, this was absolutely unclear14:37
BluesKajyup14:37
ManDayLike Jabber/XMPP14:37
Monikamaybe mumble? not sure @ ManDay14:37
ManDayIf Jabber/XMPP is indeed the case, could you recommend a service provider?14:38
m1chapidgin is cross-platform14:40
yofelurlwolf: could you please check what your /etc/kde4/kdm/kdm.options says about 'restart-on-upgrade'?14:40
yofelurlwolf: it should have no-restart-on-upgrade14:40
ManDaym1cha: I haven't had particular good experiences with pidgin14:45
ManDayDoes anyone know what's required so that Nepomuk Indexer can search within ODT-Files and alike?14:46
m1chaManDay: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21833514:50
ubottuKDE bug 218335 in general "Nepomuk won't index the content of OpenDocument (.odt, .odp, .ods) files" [Normal,Resolved: fixed]14:50
ManDay"Fixed"... o_O14:50
ManDayLet me try again14:51
krosonIs anybody having the following issue: kbluetooth can't disable bluetooth ?14:51
ManDayCan I force Nepomuk to reindex a folder?14:52
m1chakroson: I dont get an error message, it just cant be disabled14:52
m1chadidnt recognize that before14:52
krosonm1cha: yes, i don't have errors too, just can't disable. So no fix for that yet?14:52
m1chadont know, just search on bugtracker(my internet is currently very slow, so I just can chat, sry)14:53
m1chadoes anyone use skype on kubuntu 12.10?14:56
Lynourem1cha: no, but considering upgrading, so curious about what kind of problem you are having14:57
emIm concerned that for the first time i started seeing this after I do "sudo aptitude update" ----- W: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com precise Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>14:57
m1chait's not a problem, it's a visual mystery :P If I get a message I can see how something in the system tray comes up for ~100ms and directly goes away. don't know what this is14:58
yofelem: can happen if you have the quantal archive enabled on precise, they changed the  archive key there14:58
emone thing I did between then and now is that I added a key (so i could install spotify) using this command: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 94558F5914:58
ManDayDoes anyone know how to make Nepomuk re-index (a specific folder, perhaps)?14:58
emyofel: i wonder how that could have happened. Any idea how to fix that?14:59
m1chaManDay: http://trueg.wordpress.com/2011/12/05/manually-forcing-the-re-indexing-of-folders-is-easy/ google is great xd15:00
yofelem: hm, you could try to add the archive key again. Although I'm not sure if that helps with BADSIG...15:00
ManDaym1cha: I already read that15:00
m1chaManDay: it doesnt work?15:00
ManDayIt's from late 2011, I was hoping there was a more "official" way to do it these days15:01
ManDaySomewhere in Dolphin, integrated, perhaps15:01
ManDay<- Doesn't quite understand the connection between "Strigi" and "Nepomuk", anyway15:02
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MonikaCan someone help me?15:12
Walzmyn!ask | Monika15:14
ubottuMonika: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience15:14
Walzmynmy system sounds (error from kontact, etc...) are being sent to my HDMI sound card, which I do not make use of. How can I switch 'em to the primary sound card?15:18
ManDaym1cha: I'm afraid Nepomuk doesn't too well with ODT15:19
ManDayI just tried and it doesn't find the document. Perhaps i'm missing something...?15:19
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BluesKajWalzmyn, usually the onboard soundcard sends the sounds to the hdmi output. Do you have another soundcard installed ?15:23
WalzmynBluesKaj: I'm using the built-in sound card for my comptuer speakers, and the vid card has it's sound chip for the HDMI. I do use the HDMI connected to my TV on occasion and have found an application that lets me switch sound for applications, but I don't see anything for system sounds, like errors or the startup jingle.15:25
MonikaWalzmyn: I asked my question further up15:28
WalzmynBluesKaj: i think i may have just found it, in system settings for notifications. Seems like I may have been poking around in there when I was trying to get sound to the TV.15:30
WalzmynI'll have to get an error or reboot to figure out if I fixed it :)15:30
BluesKajWalzmyn, yeah , I find the system sounds annoying so I don't use them15:31
BluesKajno reboot needed if you are using notifications sounds15:32
m1chadoes lightdm support FN+RIGHT/LEFT for setting speaker volume? I hate it when I forgot to turn off volume and startup sound  plays at full volume at university :P15:35
douglmorning folks.15:39
douglwhat is the difference between a LTS release and just the regular release?15:40
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ManDayI want to file a Bug about KDE not indexing/searching ODT Files - should I file this in the "Nepomuk" Section? To my knowledge Nepomuk is only about semantics, not indexing?!15:42
ManDaydougl: LTS are supported with updates for longer.15:42
m1chathe time how long it will be supported with security patches15:42
m1chaxd15:42
G4MBYdougl: a regular release is supported for 18 months. A LTS for 3 or 5 years15:42
m1chaCan NON-LTS get new buggy features too?15:43
m1chavia upate15:43
SeH_Hello15:43
SeH_I just install Alien Arena using muon15:43
douglManDay, G4MBY thanks15:43
SeH_the game doesnt work!!15:43
SeH_any help15:44
douglSeH_, like the controls dont work...15:45
douglor there is no display?15:45
douglthe screen goes blank..15:45
douglor junk shows up on the screen?15:45
douglSeH_, or is it the game works crappy?15:46
SeH_dougl, game not launch!15:46
douglthere are alot of crappy programs that work crappy.15:46
douglSeH_, did you do it from the command line?15:46
SeH_yeah, dougl15:48
douglwhat did you type?15:48
douglI will try it15:48
SeH_alien-arena15:48
myounisHi all.. I"m struck on something..15:48
myounisI can't login as super user from my terminal with 'su root' command.. what can be worng??15:48
douglmyounis, sudo su-15:49
myounisokay15:49
douglthat should make you root from a user prompt15:49
myounisthanks.. I just try it..15:49
SeH_dougl, you try it15:49
douglSeH_, installing15:49
myounisit did.. thanks.. :)15:49
douglnp15:50
douglSeH_, only getting 500 k/s = 10 min15:50
SeH_ok dougl15:51
SeH_you can see also what it say http://pastebin.com/mUnQby4Z15:51
SeH_when i run it from konsole15:51
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douglit's in french...15:53
douglI only know russian and arabic.15:54
dougl300 k/s now15:54
douglSeH_, could be just a bad program tho....15:54
douglthe good news is you can get your money back :P15:55
SeH_dougl this topic like my problem http://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?57565-Alien-Arena15:55
douglSeH_, 12.10?15:55
SeH_yes dougl15:55
dougldid you try Nexuiz?15:56
dougl8 min15:56
SeH_dougl no15:59
douglseems to be a popular alternative time waster in that thread.15:59
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myounisdoes any of you guys know any alternative to Ultrasurf software for Kubuntu?16:05
douglwhat is it?16:06
m1chaaccording to google its a proxa tool for windows16:06
m1cha:P16:06
m1cha*proxy16:06
m1chayou can use Tor16:07
myounisyes.. proxy..16:07
myounisYes.. I did read about tor somewhere.. but how to use it?16:07
m1chajust search for it, there should be many tutorials16:08
m1chaits a well known tool16:08
m1chahttps://www.torproject.org/docs/debian.html.en16:08
myounism1cha: Okay.. thanks16:08
m1chaofficial site16:08
douglSeH - you obviously dont care but for the logs... AA works on my 12.10 with nvidia-current.16:08
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m1chasince when nvidia driver officially supports optimus? I tried it again after fresh install of 12.10 and was positive surprised16:09
m1chaworks great and I have good battery life now16:09
Shaan7ah really? nice16:09
* Shaan7 has a friend who has optimus16:10
m1cha<Shaan7> ah really? nice16:11
m1cha-*- Shaan7 has a friend who has optimus16:11
m1chahow you write that? I dont use IRC very often, so sorry xd16:11
Shaan7m1cha: /me has a friend who has optimus16:12
m1chaShaan7: oh right. skype has the same feature with same command lol16:13
Shaan7m1cha: even google talk these days16:14
m1chasyntax highlightung for IM applications would be great16:15
BluesKajm1cha, which nvidia driver version is it ?16:23
m1chaBluesKaj: Where can I see that? nvidia-settings does not work with bumblebee16:24
m1chaBlueKajaccording to strings in kernel-module it's 304.4316:30
BluesKajm1cha, ok 2 different gpus in optimus , one low level for battery saving and the other higher level for demanding graphics, nice to know for those who have such a setup16:36
BluesKajm1cha, but you still use bumblebee , correct ?16:37
ManDayWhere can I file a bug for Kubuntu?!16:40
ManDayThis is ridiculous, why can I not report a bug at Launchpad16:46
ManDaySo wonder Kubuntu gets bug-ridden like that!16:46
m1chaBluesKaj: yes, I use bumblebee, system runs on intel by standard and nvidia gpu turned off. I can run an programm with nvidia-gpu with "optirun ..."16:50
BluesKajok , m1cha , good to know that "optimus" works with bumblebee again , there were ppl who had major issues with optimus recently16:53
m1chamy laptop dont has optimus according to description. But my laptop(Acer travelmate 8572tg) was the first which ever had switchable graphics, so maybe its just an old version of optimus, but I cant use the optimus driver for windows(I need the acer version)16:55
BluesKajm1cha, ok , understood16:57
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petsoundsHai.. is there a way to get firefox-kde-support in Precise?17:09
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phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: does this bug exist in 12.10?17:11
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTIxNDQ17:11
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phoenix_firebrdkde crashed17:12
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koreano!list17:12
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ubottukoreano: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».17:12
OerHeksphoenix_firebrd, no, kernel 3.6.3 is not currently used.17:12
phoenix_firebrdOerHeks: the post says that it is a patch that causes the problem was backported to 3.417:13
phoenix_firebrdOerHeks:  and to 3.5 also17:14
OerHekswhere did you read that ?17:15
* OerHeks reads "the serious bug, which first appeared within the Linux 3.6.2 kernel "17:15
phoenix_firebrdOerHeks: Right now I am in a freshly installed kubuntu 12.10, I had to do this because of a severe dataloss17:15
phoenix_firebrdOerHeks: The home directory was getting corrupted for every boot, After sometime, the ext4 was very corrupt, I had to reinstall the OS17:18
phoenix_firebrdyofel: did the recent ext4 serious bug affect kubuntu 12.10? and was the experimental parts of ext4 was enabled in the 12.10 betas?17:19
yofelphoenix_firebrd: I don't know what experimental parts you mean, but it does seem like 3.5 is affected17:22
phoenix_firebrdyofel: I last a kubuntu 12.10 beta install earlier and now an ubuntu 12.10 install, I fear I may loose my Current fresh Install of Kubuntu , /home contains some person datas, should i use ntfs until a fix for safety?17:25
phoenix_firebrdyofel: *lost17:25
yofeluse ext3?17:25
yofelor don't reboot that often17:26
phoenix_firebrdyofel: ext4 to ext3 convertion ok?17:26
yofelnot really, I mean if you make a fresh partition (as you would have to do for ntfs anyway)17:26
BluesKajext4 has been stable as a rock since it's release on my setup17:27
douglsame17:27
phoenix_firebrdyofel: I already have a ntfs one. I will try by best, not to reboot, when can we expect a patch?17:29
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: I asume to don't reboot often17:29
BluesKajphoenix_firebrd, you do too much mixing and matching without regard to the effects on your system , or so it seems to me :)17:29
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: Sorry, i couldn't understand17:30
m1chaI can login as guest(via LightDM) even though I disabled guest-login17:30
m1chasounds like a security bug :)17:30
BluesKajphoenix_firebrd, I reboot at least once or twice /day since I have W7 on a separate HDD and I have to access it for many reasons nowadays17:31
yofelphoenix_firebrd: reading backlog of #ubuntu-kernel, it seems like the bug is introduced in 3.5.7 (ubuntu 3.5.0-18) which was rejected17:32
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: mixing and matching?17:32
yofelphoenix_firebrd: so you're probably fine17:32
abdelrahmanbonnahi17:32
BluesKajphoenix_firebrd, it was a joke :)17:33
phoenix_firebrdyofel: oh, in that case I have to debug my ubuntu install for packages that are getting corrupted one by one, may be its my failing harddisk. Thank you for the info17:34
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yofelphoenix_firebrd: for package consistency use debsums17:34
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khaluk /msg NickServ identify unuttum17:35
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: oh , I haven't understood it yet, I am not cleaver enough :D17:38
BluesKajphoenix_firebrd,  mix and match means you try different apps etc that are out of the ordinary17:39
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: In that case I believe we are the same , so have to tested the steam gaming client?17:42
BluesKajnot me , not a gamer so I haven't bothered17:43
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: Its just for 1000 people. So will we be getting the l4d open sourced?17:45
BluesKajphoenix_firebrd, dunno17:46
phoenix_firebrdyofel: debsums is awesome, ty17:46
phoenix_firebrdOerHeks: It seems the ext4 bug doesn't affect the current kernel.17:48
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: I am off to bed now good night , see you later17:49
OerHeksphoenix_firebrd, i was wondering about the backpart-stuff.17:49
phoenix_firebrdOerHeks: me too17:49
phoenix_firebrdOerHeks: I will put my system under test and see if it affects. I will report tomorrow, good night17:50
haysThe following packages have been kept back:18:16
hays  libgnome2-0 linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic18:16
haysanyone know what this might be happening?18:17
douglquiet time in the channel now?18:18
BluesKajhays, mosat likely the dependenies haven't been uploaded to the repos yet18:18
douglhays, not too sure18:19
haysits been doing this for a while18:19
lordievader hays What command do you use to update?18:25
haysapt-get update18:25
lordievaderhays: Try apt-get dist-upgrade. Those updates probably change too much on the system and that is the reason apt-get upgrade keeps them back.18:26
haysthx18:27
rorkhays, lordievader: the latter two images are the kernel, I guess if it breaks after an update you're in pretty big trouble, hence it's kept back unless you specify the dist-upgrade18:28
lordievaderrork: That is what I ment.18:28
haysWelcome to Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS (GNU/Linux 3.2.0-31-generic x86_64)18:29
haysis there something i should put in sources.list to upgrade this to .10 which apparently is out?18:29
lordievaderhays: Nope, run sudo do-release-upgrade -d to upgrade to 12.1018:30
haysgreat thanks18:30
haysmight as well keep this desktop box up-to-date18:31
matt__When I plug in my USB harddrive, the system sees it but doesn't show files and won't let me access... any ideas?18:31
matt__"Could not mount the following device: My Passport"   and "An unspecified error has occured - Daemon is inhibited"18:33
hayshmm  doh.  port 22: host is down.  haha looks like i screwed it up.. time to go local :)18:33
lordievaderhays: I heared the same comment a few days back, running an upgrade from ssh, not a good idea.18:34
xixoryo, does anyone know if it is possible to change krunners autocomplete key from "End" to "Tab"?  Cheers18:38
lordievaderxixor: To get back to your question of yesterday my main machine is an HP EliteBook 8560w.18:39
hayslordievader: it actually came back up.. just took a little longer than usual18:41
xixorlordievader: cool18:41
haysbut i went local for the release upgrade18:41
haysworth the 10 foot walk18:41
xixorlordievader: Seems like it has similar specs to my Thinkpad W52018:41
xixoris it possible to drag windows to a different workspace?18:51
xixoroh, never mind< if ound the option18:53
mime_1111hello ppl, when i try to tune a qt app using <app> --bg yellow --fn Ubuntu, the font doesnt change. any help? trhnx18:55
roneymime_1111: You must use -fn for that.19:02
mime_1111hey roney, thnx, but i tried -fn with xirod.ttf xirod.xtf and without extensions and with no result, also tried ubuntu and couries with caps also19:05
mime_1111courier19:05
douglwhat linux should I put on a 10 year old computer - lol19:08
douglwould 12.10 work?19:08
lordievaderdougl: Specs?19:08
douglsempron 2500 1.8 1g nvidia19:09
douglnot even sure I want to do anything with it except that it is a custom case I painted myself19:10
lordievaderdougl: What do you want to use it for?19:10
lordievaderdougl: Put a server install on it I'd say.19:10
douglyeah19:10
mime_1111also tried -fn Courier:italic19:11
douglIf I could reinstall xp someone might make use of it for e-mail or something19:12
douglxfce19:12
mime_1111roney -fn downt solve it :O(19:15
mime_1111doesnty19:15
mime_1111doesnt19:15
roneymime_1111: Hum... it's probably because the application is not recognizing the font name.19:16
roneymime_1111: I never used this feature before.19:16
mime_1111where do u think is the folder where that app are supose to get the font from? thnx19:17
mime_1111maybe if i plce it there...19:17
roneymime_1111: You can also install a tool called qt-config.19:19
mime_1111ill take a look, thank u for all ur attention19:19
mime_1111cya all19:19
roneymime_1111: This way you can change the appearance of your applications without typing these option everytime.19:19
mime_1111but may that app make an specific one for each?19:20
mime_1111thats the point19:20
roneyI don't think so. It probably applies the same schema for every app.19:21
mime_1111well, it would be great! thanks u anyway, and cya19:21
roneyDo you have access to the app's source code?19:21
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mime_1111ok, u mean to enter the cfg or watever name is and where the font is , change it19:21
mime_1111?¿?¿19:22
mime_1111well, im using linux as admin,  i supose it is a yes19:22
roneyYou would edit the main.cpp file and type some C++ code then recompile the app.19:22
roneyBut you're not a developer, I presume.19:23
mime_1111nah, im a craky fvwm-crystaler19:23
mime_1111thats too, but with copy paste or looking at it wont harm me :)19:23
mime_1111well, i thought it was easy as enter the file, select the font in the text file, and chage it, i will look it, always we can learn19:25
mime_1111cya19:25
mime_1111thanks 4 ur tiiimeee!!!19:25
rlmccormickwhat is the best way to determine which version of kubuntu I have?20:07
lordievaderrlmccormick: lsb_release -a20:07
rlmccormickthanks.  should i expect then using the system update tool should install version 12.10? After running an update I am still on 12.0420:08
rlmccormicksorry, by that i mean the "Update Manager"20:09
lordievaderrlmccormick: Do you mean the upgrade to 12.10 does not show up in Muon?20:09
rlmccormicklord: i ran "Update Manager" and installed all available updates.  now when i do a lsb_release -a i see version 12.04 still.20:10
lordievaderrlmccormick: Did you reboot after teh update?20:10
rlmccormickis that the exp20:10
rlmccormicki did20:10
lordievaderrlmccormick: Hmm there was someone in here earlier with the same problem, try running from a terminal: sudo do-release-upgrade20:11
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rlmccormickwill do, thanks20:11
rlmccormickdoing sudo do-release-upgrade tells me "No new release found"20:12
rlmccormickmaybe i will reboot to be sure20:13
haysI did do-upgrade -d and got this: "The upgrade has completed but there were errors during the upgrade process."20:21
haysWhere can I see the errors to find out if they are serious?20:21
lordievaderhays: It usually lists the errors above the message you gave.20:22
haysAppArmor parser error for /etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.cupsd in /etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.cupsd at line 24: Invalid capability block_suspend.20:22
haysooh and a bunch of xorg errors20:23
lordievaderhays: Try to fix the first issue first, you might have a dependecy failure.20:25
hayslordievader: the errors seemed not-serious enough that a reboot first seemed sensible20:29
haysHmm.. Ctrl-Alt-F1 isn't giving me console20:30
hayslordie http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=TpSRMp4r  any thoughts?20:36
haysshould i force it?20:37
lordievaderhays: Could you use my full nick (use autocomplete), did you update your sources?20:37
haysI ran the do-upgrade thing20:38
lordievaderhays: Yes and now you are trying apt-get -f install, but did you prepend it with apt-get update?20:38
haysI've not yet done the -f install20:39
haysI did do apt-get update20:39
haysthen apt-get upgrade gave me that list of errors20:39
lordievaderhays: Ah well, try that first.20:39
haysholy mother of god that's a lot of packages20:40
lordievaderhays: Lots of packages to be removed, or installed?20:41
haysa bunch installed, a bunch held back20:41
haysI'm guessing there will be a dist-upgrade in my future after this is done20:41
lordievaderhays: That is a good procedure.20:42
haysi am doing this over ssh because i can't seem to bring up a console20:42
hayswhich i would think that ctrl-alt-f1 would do20:43
matt___Can anyone help me sort out my partitions?  Installed from inside windows, now want to remove everything associated with windows and use it all for linux.20:43
lordievadermatt___: Take a look at gparted, the gnome-partition editor.20:45
haysits been a while doesnt the kubuntu installer guide you through all this20:46
lordievaderhays: Yes it does but I think matt___ is past that stage already.20:46
hayslordievader: do you happen to know how to get a console from the xorg boot screen?  (I think that's where I am )20:47
lordievaderhays: You have X running but not KDM? Just to get things straight.20:48
matt___Well past.  I'm in gparted, but trying to sort out the partitions.  there are 4.  There is a fat32 and and NTFS (Mount point "/host")20:48
haysWell I am not sure exactly. I saw a load screen that looked a lot like it would have been kdm but then it all went blank20:49
lordievadermatt___: I'd say mount them check if there is anything important on there and if not format.20:49
hayslordievader: there was as debian space boot screen, then a big pale blue kde loader, then it went blank with what seemed like an attempt to change screen mode20:49
lordievadermatt___: It is allways a good idea to make a backup before you start such an operartion.20:50
lordievaderhays: Isn't it a gfx driver failing?20:50
haysyeah it very well could be20:50
lordievaderhays: Let me put it differently can you switch to tty1?20:50
haysso i am tying to get to a console20:50
hayslordievader: cntrl-alt-F1 is ineffective20:51
matt___Is there a simple way to find which part linux is on? (sda1 or sda2)20:51
haysyour fstab probably would say and also your partition type would be linux i believe20:51
lordievaderhays: Then it is probably a corrupt gfx driver, or at least it has been my experience that when switching sessions fails it is usualy the gfx driver.20:51
hayslordievader: how would i boot into text mode then20:52
lordievadermatt___: Yes what hays, says check /etc/fstab the one mounted in / is your root.20:52
lordievaderhays: Btw it's ext3/420:52
haysmatt___: there is also probably a swap partition20:52
hayslordievader: my knowledge is old.  it used to be just "linux"20:53
haysand then there was "linux swap"20:53
lordievaderhays: Ingrub you need to select the recovery mode.20:53
haysok20:53
lordievaderhays: Now it is simply swap.20:53
mysticalzerojust switched over to kde recently. can you share a window across two activities? been searching for a quite a while but to no avail. for example, i would like chrome to be shared across two activities.20:54
lordievadermysticalzero: Rightclick the window border -> activities20:55
mysticalzerolordievader: ah.. nice. how could i missed that. thanks : )20:55
lordievadermysticalzero: No problem :)20:56
matt___/host/ubuntu/disks/root.disk /               ext4    loop,errors=remount-ro 0       120:56
matt___Is that what I'm looking for?20:56
lordievadermatt___: Did you install Kubuntu using wubi?20:57
haysi am not sure this upgrade process is ever going to end. :)20:58
lordievadermatt___: On my box it looks like this, it uses a UUID instead of /dev/sdXY: UUID=961df41f-64ea-4bfd-a1e7-141d24e42b9a /               ext4    relatime,errors=remount-ro 0       120:58
haysapt is teasing me by walking through the alphabet like 4 times21:00
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matt_Installed from wubi, if that changes anything I need to do to figure this thing out...21:10
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lordievaderGuest53079: DO NOT REMOVE WINDOWS PARTITIONS.21:18
lordievaderGuest53079: Wubi has some dirty things going and puts the linux stuff on the ntfs partition of Windows, so in other words if you remove that, you remove your linux install.21:19
Obsidian1723why not just reformat and run Linux only? Unless you game or have some need for which Windows is required...21:20
Guest53079Obsidian, what I'm trying for.  Want the whole system one format/partition/OS, and linux won... just not sure how to do it now.21:21
lordievaderGuest53079: You need to reinstall the system. During the install you can select the option to use the whole disk. Be sure to back your files up, this action formats the whole disk.21:22
Obsidian1723Backup your personal data, nuke and pave, reinstall.21:22
Guest53079How hard to do that from a USB key?  Netbook with no optical drive.21:22
Obsidian1723Could backup to a networked hard drive perhaps?21:23
Obsidian1723or get an external hard drive to backup to.21:23
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PasNox_lordievader: Hi again21:24
PasNox_i'm still having the jbd2 writing to my hard disk and the harddisk never spindown, so i googled a bit, looks like it's a problem of long date with ext4 / jbd2 :/21:25
lordievaderPasNox_: You had solved your noise issue, haven't you?21:26
PasNox_i was thinking, but it seem not. it write less but it's still there21:26
oneadventis anyone else disappointed with lightdm? I just want to install a theme. And where is dual monitor support. This seems unfinished21:30
lordievaderoneadvent: You can allways revert back to KDM.21:33
oneadventi might have to21:34
oneadventi mean can't even easily change the font color21:34
hayslordievader: apt-get seems to have gotten stuck.. and now there is a lock on the file and the process is still running21:34
oneadvent(like if you pick a dark background)21:34
hayslordievader: how should I recover?21:34
lordievaderhays: I think this will point you in the right direction: http://askubuntu.com/questions/15433/fixing-could-not-get-lock-var-lib-dpkg-lock21:38
kofteshi21:42
koftesChanging default applications in KDE can be done through "Default Applications - KDE Control Module".  Does anyone where the file that stores these settings is?  I read somewhere that it's ~/.kde/share/config/kdeglobals but it turns out that's incorrect.21:47
shadeslayerkoftes:mm21:51
shadeslayerI can't seem to remember wher21:51
shadeslayermaybe try .local/share/applications/mimeapps.list21:51
shadeslayernot sure however21:52
koftesshadeslayer: I'll check that21:52
shadeslayerhave to go, night21:53
koftesIt's not that by the way.  That seems to control file associations.21:53
koftesThanks, anyway.21:54
xixorhi22:26
kofteslater22:48
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cannotinstallhi guys, im trying to install kubuntu 12.04 on my desktop but im getting the error: "udevd[210] timeout: killing /sbin/modprobe -bv pci:" when trying to boot. I have already checked the MD5Sum, and tried a livecd instead of a usb, but get the same result. Any ideas?23:02
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xixorwhats going on every body!23:14
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xixorhas anyone done much customizing/themes/skins in kubuntu to change the look?23:29
snowman_I just installed Kubuntu 12.10, and Catfish doesn't work... it says it can't find any typelib for Gtk,Gdk,GdkPixbuf, or Pango23:33
snowman_Reinstalling didn't help matters... what Gtk packages do I need to install to get Catfish working?23:35
jmichaelxwith the network manager & plasma widget that comes with kubuntu, how is a person supposed to reconnect to a network from which a michine has become disconnected?23:57
jmichaelxmachine*23:57

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