[00:00] <lcabreza2> brady: reboot first and check bios if your hd is detected
[00:00] <lcabreza2> brady: can you still see grub ?
[00:02] <n0sq> also, when i launch firefox on my wife's laptop, the firefox menu bar is auto hiding AND i can't bring up the side task bar which isn't suppose to autohide - i can get the task bar back when i minimize firefox though - this wasn't a problem when i first installed ubuntu 12.10  - anyone know how to fix this?
[00:02] <Tex_Nick> brady : I had a worn out sata cable that was causing me the same problem
[00:03] <PatrickDickey> [twisti]: http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2011/07/apache-virtual-host/ is a good walkthrough on virtual hosts for apache.
[00:03] <brady> unfortunantly that was one of the first things i did, switch sata cables, although all of mine are just a few weeks old.
[00:05] <WXZ> is there a way to view your clipboard history?
  sorry i was  busy trying to choose the 86  one
[00:05] <david_> tell me i did  right  or  not
[00:05] <david_> with that  comand
[00:06] <david_> ismod=card86
[00:06] <david_> insmodcard=86
[00:07] <david_> i'm right  ?
[00:08] <jcunit> o.O
[00:08] <jcunit> First time on IRC
[00:08] <jcunit> Holy shi
[00:08] <Loshki> brady: can you boot reliably into a live-cd? Also, have you run a memtest overnight yet?
[00:08] <blackshirt> good luck jcunit
[00:08] <jcunit> Should I be worried?
[00:08] <brady> ive ran a memory test but, not overnight
[00:09] <brady> ive not tried booting into a live cd
[00:09] <PatrickDickey> david_ I'd say the second one looks right. Or it might need a space between insmod and card. I'll look for the right syntax.
[00:09] <jcunit> What is this channel for?
[00:09] <blackshirt> !ubuntu
[00:09] <brady> discussing kitty cats.
[00:10] <blackshirt> !ubuntu | jcunit
[00:10] <IdleOne> !behelpful
[00:10] <TheLordOfTime> jcunit, this channel is for Ubuntu support.  Offtopic discussion is in #ubuntu-offtopic, ubuntu-related discussion can also be in #ubuntu-discuss
[00:10] <brady> wow. way to be uptight.
[00:12] <Loshki> brady: well, if your problem isn't solved by bedtime, I'd run a memtest overnight. Meanwhile, if you can boot into a live cd its gonna be much easier to run disk tests like fsck
[00:13] <Loshki> Nah, it's just, support first, *then* comedy, not the other way round...
[00:14] <IdleOne> Nah, it's support only. Go to appropriate channel for other topics.
[00:15] <brady> ok then.. go with the wisdom of ignoring what just about every chat room is like..
[00:16] <PatrickDickey> david_ to verify this, put lspci -vnn into the terminal, and just paste the line that shows the name of the card. It'll  have "05:01.0 Multimedia video controller: Conexant Systems, Inc. CX23880/1/2/3 PCI Video and Audio Decoder (rev 05)" in it
[00:17] <PatrickDickey> david_: Specifically the last portion [xxxx:xxxx]
[00:17] <IdleOne> brady: This channel has 1591 users currently, if we allowed every user to make 1 joke, this channel would be impossible to get any support done.
[00:18] <nasaeli> is anyone here that could help me boot the usb stick with the last ubuntu version please?
[00:18] <IdleOne> brady: #ubuntu-offtopic is a great place to chat and be funny. Please come make me laugh :)
[00:19] <david_> yup
[00:19] <david_> [14f1:8802]
[00:19] <Tex_Nick> brady : intermittent problems are the worst of all ... I have an AMI bios on this machine ( not my favorite bios ) and when it can't find a boot device it jumps into setup
[00:19] <Bustacap> If the front headphone port doesn't sound right when I plug my headphones in, do I need to install some better drivers or maybe something with my motherboard?
[00:20] <brady> the expectation that humans will behave as non humans, is even more unrealistic.
[00:20] <nasaeli> I accepted the last version upgrade and now my computer does not pass into the login
[00:20] <david_> 05:01.2 Multimedia controller [0480]: Conexant Systems, Inc. CX23880/1/2/3 PCI Video and Audio Decoder [MPEG Port] [14f1:8802] (rev 05)
[00:20] <david_> what  to do with it ?
[00:21] <rustyrazorblade> i've got 2 lxc containers, both running redis (one is a slave to the other), networking going through the lxcbr0 that was set up automatically.  when checking the master, it seems it recognizes the client as the bridge IP rather than the IP inside the container.  is there any way to configure the bridge so the originating IP is the one in the container rather than the bridge?
[00:21] <Tex_Nick> sounds like you have an intermittent boot device problem
[00:21] <nasaeli> anyone that would advice me? please?  I.m aabroad and I can.t afford a new computer!
[00:22] <[twisti]> nasaeli: install a fresh os
[00:22] <IdleOne> brady: Humans have rules that must be followed to maintain some semblance of order. I am assuming you are a human and we have some rules that we need you to follow see" /msg ubottu !guidelines " to familiarize yourself with them.
[00:22] <[twisti]> i mean, if all else fails
[00:23] <nasaeli> twisti, howdo I do that?
[00:23] <[twisti]> put in cd, reboot, follow instructions
[00:23] <[twisti]> got to get a cd from an internet caffee or something
[00:23] <[twisti]> but try to fix it first
[00:23] <nasaeli> I have a usb stick on an ACER one
[00:23] <PatrickDickey> david_ you're going to need to ask on the mailing list (linuxtv.org). Give them that information, along with whatever is underneath it.
[00:23] <[twisti]> or youll lose all your data
[00:24] <david_> its  ok man
[00:24] <david_> i'm thankful
[00:24] <nasaeli> there is no CD player
[00:24] <david_> :-)
[00:24] <PatrickDickey> No problem. it might actually be in an experimental branch, so they may be able to support it.
[00:24] <david_> which i can  help others  like you try   with me
[00:25] <nasaeli> twisti?
[00:25] <[twisti]> nasaeli?
[00:25] <brady> nasaeli : I aswell have been displeased with the mistake of having accepted the upgrade.. 12.04 was operating flawlessly
[00:26] <PatrickDickey> david_: you'll get to that point before you know it. The only reason I know anything about their list is I've been trying to get a USB TV Tuner working for a couple of years now. It works, but the code isn't styled right, so they won't include it.
[00:26] <nasaeli> hi brady,so I how do IO get my computer to wqork again :(
[00:27] <lenswipe> hey guys i need some help with something
[00:27] <alsu> hi! I'm trying to pick a server version of Ubuntu
[00:27] <brady> IdleOne, get over yourself..
[00:27] <lenswipe> i installed ubuntu so that i could try out firefox os because i need it for my 4th year project
[00:27] <TheLordOfTime> alsu, what do you mean "pick a server version"?
[00:27] <alsu> if I install 12.10, can I upgrade to LTS later?
[00:27] <lenswipe> however I installed ubuntu 12.10 and its made my machine all but unusable
[00:27] <bazhang> alsu, sure
[00:27] <alsu> TheLordOfTime: LTS vs not
[00:27] <alsu> bazhang: is that supported, or might it be difficult?
[00:27] <lenswipe> it runs like molasses and locks up constantly
[00:27] <TheLordOfTime> alsu, 12.10 is newer than the LTS though.  Any version can eventually through upgrading be the next LTS
[00:27] <bazhang> alsu, it wont be one step
[00:27] <nasaeli> lenswipe, how do I recover the old version?
[00:28] <lenswipe> on top of that when im on hangout with someone using my USB webcam the sound from the webcam mic randomly disappears
[00:28] <david_> aha
[00:28] <lenswipe> nasaeli: ?
[00:28] <TheLordOfTime> alsu, the question now is do you want to do a one-step upgrade, or a multi-step upgrade to get to the *next* LTS in future?
[00:28] <bazhang> nasaeli, full reinstall
[00:28] <alsu> bazhang: is the same process as upgrading from one LTS to the next?
[00:28] <lenswipe> nasaeli: i dont know dude - i have a problem too
[00:28] <TheLordOfTime> alsu, my recommendation is to just go with thet LTS for servers (12.04)
[00:28] <bazhang> alsu, lts to lts is one step
[00:28] <alsu> darn, I was afraid of that
[00:28] <lenswipe> nasaeli: i installed 12.10 - worst idea ever
[00:28] <TheLordOfTime> for stability
[00:28] <PatrickDickey> lenswipe: how can we help you?
[00:28] <alsu> ok, what sort of multi-step process are we talking about?
[00:28] <nasaeli> how do I do that ? I dowloaded the 12.04 version into my usb stick but won.t do anhything
[00:28] <nasaeli> anyting
[00:29] <nasaeli> bazhang?
[00:29] <bazhang> alsu, 12.10 to 13.04, 13.04 to 13.10, 13.10 to 14.04
[00:29] <nasaeli> can I reinstall the 10.04 version?
[00:29] <alsu> bazhang: oh i see
[00:29] <TheLordOfTime> alsu, what bazhang said, aka "Incremental Upgrades"
[00:29] <lenswipe> PatrickDickey: well i have 2 issues: the hangout sound dropping from my USB webcam and my laptop crashing and running like molasses - pick one :P
[00:30] <lenswipe> if you can help me fix one that would be good
[00:30] <lenswipe> help me fix both of them that would be awesome
[00:30] <bazhang> nasaeli, you could, it will be eol somewhat soonish though
[00:30] <alsu> in your experience, what percentage of those incremental upgrades fail?
[00:30] <bazhang> alsu, NONE
[00:30] <alsu> wow
[00:30] <alsu> that seems rather unlikely
[00:30] <TheLordOfTime> alsu, in mine, 5%, but that's because of various issues.
[00:30] <nasaeli> bazhang, would guide me through the installation, or what.s my best option?
[00:30] <lenswipe> PatrickDickey: imagine a 486 running windows vista - that's what its like
[00:30] <nasaeli> I.m an amateur user
[00:30] <alsu> TheLordOfTime: that's more like what I expected
[00:30] <bazhang> still have the maverick cd in sources.list
[00:30] <TheLordOfTime> alsu, you asked in their experience.  there's always a higher risk of breakage with lots of upgrading
[00:31] <lenswipe> PatrickDickey: i dont understand why, it was great with debian squeeze
[00:31] <TheLordOfTime> alsu, which is why I only do clean installs
[00:31] <TheLordOfTime> (save for LTS-to-LTS server upgrades on mission-critical servers)
[00:31] <alsu> TheLordOfTime, bazhang: ok, I think that answers my question. I'll stick to LTS
[00:31] <alsu> thanks!
[00:31] <jrib> alsu: I'd say it's very unlikely for an upgrade of a system that has been treated right (read: sane repository decisions) to fail in a way that is not documented in the release notes
[00:31] <TheLordOfTime> i agree with jrib
[00:32] <nasaeli> hey brady, how did you get rid of the 12.04 version?
[00:32] <PatrickDickey> lenswipe: So, you mean like we used to run Windows in my computer lab. ;-) One thing you can try is when you log in, click the little ubuntu icon next to your name, and try Gnome Classic (no effects). If that's quicker, then it might be an issue with unity and your graphics card.
[00:32] <brady> you cant roll it back
[00:32] <brady> you would have to do a complete reinstall
[00:32] <nasaeli> brady,how?
[00:33] <lenswipe> PatrickDickey: i have a laptop from 2007 so it's not a great machine
[00:33] <lenswipe> PatrickDickey: but you'd think it would be able to handle unity
[00:33] <fjodor> hi, alan cox, said i need a reasonably modern libdrm
[00:33] <lenswipe> it used to handle compiz with no problems
[00:33] <fjodor> thats his mail: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1308252/
[00:33] <nasaeli> brady, I tried from my usb stick but it won.t boot it
[00:33] <fjodor> how do i check this
[00:33] <PatrickDickey> nasaeli: You have to get a 12.04 iso, and burn it to cd/usb. Then reinstall with it. However, you'll lose any data (documents, pictures, etc) and programs that you've installed. So back them up first.
[00:33] <fjodor> ive got ubuntu 12.04
[00:34] <Bustacap> I'm having an issue where people can hear me in Teamspeak, but I'm unable to hear them. Anyone have that problem or know of a solution?
[00:34] <brady> have you configured the bios to start up from usb?
[00:34] <nasaeli> patrick dickey,how do Iback up?
[00:34] <PatrickDickey> lenswipe: they upgraded a few things behind the scenes. So some older graphics cards aren't supported anymore.
[00:34] <alsu> PatrickDickey: how does own burn an iso to usb?
[00:34] <alsu> *one
[00:34] <bjrohan> I could use help figuring out why an application using java on a webpage works on one site, but the same app on anothe site does not, it says I need to install Java. Can anyone help?
[00:35] <guang_> how to find help about "C-X C-O" in vim?
[00:35] <PatrickDickey> alsu: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/try-ubuntu-before-you-install on the right-hand side are the instructions.
[00:35] <alsu> PatrickDickey: sweet thx
[00:35] <PatrickDickey> nasaeli: are you able to boot to the system at all?
[00:35] <nasaeli> no
[00:36] <PatrickDickey> nasaeli: does it even get you to a login screen? Or just crash before it starts?
[00:37] <nasaeli> just crashes before, it gives me error
[00:38] <PatrickDickey> nasaeli: what is the error message?
[00:38] <nasaeli> patrick dickey, it stays on the counting screen that says ubuntu 10.04
[00:38] <PatrickDickey> nasaeli: 10.04 or 12.10?
[00:39] <nasaeli> some numbers, sdb assuming drive cache:write through
[00:39] <nasaeli> I had 10.04 and upgraded to 12.10,now it does not work
[00:40] <PatrickDickey> nasaeli: when you first boot up, do you get a GRUB menu? With options like "Ubuntu" "Ubuntu Recovery Console" "Advanced options for Ubuntu"?
[00:40] <nasaeli> patrickdickey, the disk drive for / is not ready yet or not present
[00:40] <nasaeli> nope
[00:41] <nasaeli> then it says, continue to wait: or press S to skip mounting or M for manual recovery
[00:41] <bjrohan> Why might a java app on one site work fine, the same app from the same company on another site say Java is not detected?
[00:42] <nasaeli> I´ve tried the manual option but then I don.t know what to write to give instructions,patrickdickey
[00:42] <blackshirt> bjrohan, your hosting provider?
[00:42] <TheLordOfTime> bjrohan, the hosting provider :P
[00:42] <bjrohan> Other people can use it on other O/S jsut fine
[00:43] <PatrickDickey> nasaeli: I'm trying to find some information for you. We need to get you into a recovery console so you can try them.
[00:43] <nasaeli> ok, great! how do I do that?
[00:43] <Karlo_> nasaeli, that's the error I've been getting.
[00:43] <nasaeli> I really appreciate your help
[00:43] <bjrohan> Oddly enough TheLordOfTime and blackshirt The app is screenr.com.  I can use the app on their site, however if I go to their Detect Java page, it comes back and says it can't find it either. same website by the company who makes the applet
[00:44] <nasaeli> yeah KArlo? why did I accepted the upgrade!!
[00:44] <Karlo_> (Scrolling back to see the context now...)
[00:44] <bjrohan> TheLordOfTime: and blackshirt I have access to the developers of the site where the screenr applet doesn't detect java and work, what can I ask them to do to make it work on their end?
[00:45] <TheLordOfTime> bjrohan, you may want to update your computer then, if it can't detect Java on your system that's an issue
[00:45] <PatrickDickey> nasaeli: when you boot up, hold the shift key down. It should bring up the GRUB menu (with Ubuntu, Ubuntu recovery console, and Advanced options for Ubuntu. It might just list kernel numbers instead of Ubuntu, though).
[00:45] <Karlo_> nasaeli, upgrading from what version to what version?
[00:45] <rgenito> does anyone here have a dell laptop and use the dell docking station under ubuntu for multiple monitors?
[00:45] <PatrickDickey> Choose the recovery console. It should be the second option from the top. You're going to want to drop into a root shell (which will require your password, if I remember correctly).
[00:46] <TheLordOfTime> bjrohan, did you confirm Java's actually on your system by using http://www.java.com/en/download/testjava.jsp (Oracle's Java Test)?
[00:46] <bjrohan> TheLordOfTime: I am open to sugestions as to what to do, like I said the applet works on the makers site
[00:46] <TheLordOfTime> bjrohan, it may also be you need Oracle java and don't and what not
[00:46] <PatrickDickey> Karlo_: which version did you upgrade from? nasaeli went from 10.04 to 12.10.
[00:46] <rgenito> damn :(
[00:46] <bjrohan> TheLordOfTime: I can go to which Java, and it shows I have 1.7
[00:46] <TheLordOfTime> bjrohan, from whom?  openjdk or Oracle?
[00:46] <Karlo_> 10.04 to 12.04 here -- except it seems to stlil have 10.04 on it, even though I thought the upgrade had "completed" and just needed a reboot.
[00:47] <bjrohan> TheLordOfTime: I went to  http://www.java.com/en/download/testjava.jsp and it says my Java is working
[00:48] <PatrickDickey> Ok, you can try the same thing then. Hold the shift key down to get the GRUB menu, and select Recovery Console. Choose drop to root shell.
[00:48] <Karlo_> PatrickDickey, when I boot here, I get one chance to interrupt with DEL to enter Setup mode (which gives me a chance to change the boot device order, for example), and later I get a chance to interrupt with ESC.
[00:48] <Karlo_> Or if I let it continue until I get the error about the root directory, then I can get to a root shell with the M key.
[00:48] <TheLordOfTime> bjrohan, not sure what to tell you, if it says its not detecting java, that sounds like a client-side issue
[00:48] <TheLordOfTime> and not server-side
[00:49] <PatrickDickey> Karlo_: this is completely different. It'll happen after that. If you start holding the shift key down when you first boot, it will go there.
[00:49] <Karlo_> OK, let me try that now.
[00:49] <g0v3rn0r> hey guys
[00:49] <bjrohan> TheLordOfTime: I am trying to find the applet makers page to detect java and try there
[00:49] <g0v3rn0r> I am going to upgrade my video driver
[00:49] <TheLordOfTime> bjrohan, you assume they have a page
[00:49] <bjrohan> I have been there before, I can't find it now
[00:49] <g0v3rn0r> how to backup the the current one in case the newer causes any problems ?
[00:50] <nasaeli> all right patrick dickey I.m in
[00:50] <PatrickDickey> nasaeli: were you able to get to the GRUB menu, and boot to recovery console?
[00:50] <nasaeli> I got into the GNU GRUB version 1.98
[00:50] <Karlo_> No change with the shift key.  But the ESC interrupt is what would get me to the GRUB menu, so I'll go back and do that.
[00:51] <PatrickDickey> nasaeli: you'll want to type nano /etc/fstab (might have to use vi /etc/fstab if nano isn't installed). In there, look for the line that says #UUID and has /. Take the # out from the beginning of the line, and save.
[00:51] <nasaeli> all the options are ubuntu,with linux 2.6.32-37 generic
[00:52] <nasaeli> and the last number decreases,some have between brackets a recovery mode)
[00:52] <nasaeli> the last ones say memory test
[00:52] <PatrickDickey> nasaeli: you want the top-most recovery mode one.
[00:52] <Karlo_> Oh, was I supposed to do the recovery mode, and THEN hold shift?
[00:53] <nasaeli> ok and then
[00:53] <nasaeli> ?
[00:53] <PatrickDickey> Karlo_:  when you get to the GRUM Menu, you want the same one. Nope. The shift was what I thought would get you to the point to choose that.
[00:53] <PatrickDickey> nasaeli: When it gives you the options in recovery mode, there should be one about drop to a root shell. you want that option.
[00:54] <nasaeli> there are none of those
[00:54] <PatrickDickey> What options do you get?
[00:54] <Karlo_> OK.  When I attempt recovery mode, I still get the error mentioned above.  From there, M gets me a root shell in runlevel 1.
[00:54] <nasaeli> it only has several options of ubuntu
[00:54] <nasaeli> I.m the same as karlo
[00:54] <PatrickDickey> nasaeli: the second one from the top says (Recovery mode) right?
[00:54] <nasaeli> yes
[00:54] <elvis4526> What is different with recovery mode^
[00:54] <PatrickDickey> scroll down to it with your arrow key, and choose it.
[00:55] <nasaeli> I did it
[00:55] <PatrickDickey> Recovery mode is like "Safe mode with Command prompt" in Windows.
[00:55] <nasaeli> then it ran a bunch of stuff
[00:55] <nasaeli> and gave me the same erro9r as the begining
[00:55] <Karlo_> Now M gets a shell, right?
[00:55] <PatrickDickey> Yes.
[00:56] <nasaeli> yeap
[00:56] <Karlo_> That's where I'm at.  How about you, nasaeli?
[00:56] <nasaeli> then, what do I write there
[00:56] <elvis4526> PatrickDickey: Yes, but what is it actually doing? Normally, it load the kernel + the initramfs with all modules. What is the recovery mode?
[00:56] <nasaeli> yes
[00:56] <PatrickDickey> you should be able to edit /etc/fstab then. Either nano /etc/fstab or vi /etc/fstab (try nano first, it's easier to use imho).
[00:57] <elvis4526> Or is it like booting in single user mode?
[00:57] <Karlo_> Actually, if / is not writable, you may need a remount first.
[00:57] <PatrickDickey> elvis4526: exactly.
[00:57] <elvis4526> Oh ok, I did not know it was the same thing.
[00:57] <nasaeli> it says control D will terminate this shell  and reboot the sytem
[00:57] <Karlo_> I used this command--> mount -o remount,defaults /
[00:58] <PatrickDickey> what did that do for you Karlo_?
[00:58] <Karlo_> The failure on / caused it to automatically be mounted in readonly mode, this made it writable again.
[00:59] <Karlo_> Now, why are we editing fstab?  I missed that part.
[00:59] <nasaeli> I.m lost now
[00:59] <PatrickDickey> ok, nasaeli try the command that Karlo_ just put up. mount -o remount,defaults /
[00:59] <grendal_prime> ok so if i run glxinfo i get back OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) Ivybridge Mobile
[00:59] <PatrickDickey> Karlo_: type cat /etc/fstab and tell me if there's a # before the line that has / in it.
[01:00] <grendal_prime> and everything else seems to be just fine no huge errors or anything of the sort.
[01:00] <lenswipe> PatrickDickey: right..
[01:00] <grendal_prime> but i cant run like...zero balistics i get an error
[01:00]  * mmgc84 test
[01:01] <nasaeli> ok, last thing it says, for many more details,say man 8 mount
[01:01] <Karlo_> No, there's a line whose entire content is "# /dev/sda1", and it's followed by a line beginning "UUID=stuff /"
[01:01] <grendal_prime> 	Warning : Your driver doesn't support the GL_ARB_imaging extension. Prepare for visual artifacts.
[01:01] <hallofick> xD
[01:01] <PatrickDickey> Karlo_: try rebooting then.
[01:02] <PatrickDickey> nasaeli: are you at a shell, and did you try the mount command?
[01:02] <nasaeli> yeap
[01:02] <Karlo_> Rebooting...  But I expect I'll get the same error.
[01:02] <nasaeli> do I redo it?
[01:02] <PatrickDickey> nasaeli: try the cat /etc/fstab and see if it has a # before it.
[01:03] <PatrickDickey> UUID= stuff / line
[01:03] <the-erm> Has anyone here ever had a problem where the wireless works, and the wired ethernet didn't?
[01:03] <Karlo_> Still failing here.
[01:03] <Karlo_> "The disk drive for / is not ready yet or not present".  I've heard that this might be merely the apt-get database being botched -- does that make sense?  (I do know that it *is* in fact botched at this point, but it seems strange that this would be reported as a not-ready disk drive.)
[01:04] <PatrickDickey> Karlo, did you get an option to Skip or Manual before that error?
[01:04] <nasaeli> UUDID=f74b11bc-7cb3-42a4  etc
[01:04] <Karlo_> I got it at the same time as that error.
[01:05] <Karlo_> I.e., it reports that / is not ready, then offers to let me wait, or I can hit S to skip or M to do maint mode.
[01:05] <nasaeli> at the end it says none swap sw  0 0.patrickdickey
[01:05] <PatrickDickey> Ok, you can try pressing S. Here's the link I'm working off of. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1507558 It's for an older version, but it should still be applicable.
[01:05] <PatrickDickey> nasaeli: try rebooting also. When you get to the screen that says skip or manual, hit S.
[01:05] <PatrickDickey> And you can check the link I just posted for Karlo_, as it's where I'm working from.
[01:06] <Karlo_> I've tried that path before, too, but let's see how it looks now...
[01:06] <nasaeli> I.ve tried several times and it sends it to think and it stays there forever
[01:06] <Karlo_> Oh wait
[01:07] <Karlo_> Now it says the device for /tmp is not ready.
[01:08] <PatrickDickey> Karlo_: did you press anything or just wait? And if you waited, did it find it yet?
[01:08] <Karlo_> Trying again from recovery mode first...
[01:08] <Karlo_> OK, now (from recovery mode) I'm at the "/ is not ready" point
[01:09] <PatrickDickey> do the mount -o command again. It should remount it properly.
[01:09] <intrader> Should I upgrade to 12.04.1 from 12.04?
[01:09] <Karlo_> I hit S, and it reports that /tmp is not ready, but it skips / as requested.  It then conveniently clears the screen so I can't report what it said just after that...  :-/
[01:09] <PatrickDickey> intrader, that's a safe upgrade. I wouldn't go to 12.10 right away though.
[01:10] <nasaeli> ok, it gives the same error as karlo
[01:10] <L3top> intrader: point releases are almost always a better release
[01:10] <Karlo_> mountall: Plymouth command failed   mountall: Disconnected from Plymouth
[01:10] <Karlo_> Now it's sitting there, cursor blinking
[01:10] <smw_> isn't a point release just a new disk?
[01:10] <PatrickDickey> point release is like a service pack.
[01:11] <smw_> I thought it was a normal upgrade
[01:11] <smw_> yeah
[01:11] <smw_> PatrickDickey, so normal updating should get you to 12.04.1, right?
[01:11] <smw_> PatrickDickey, just making sure
[01:11] <PatrickDickey> Karlo, when you chose the recover mode option, did it crash right away, or did it give you a menu?
[01:11] <Karlo_> I can type, and it echoes, but no other response.
[01:11] <nasaeli> patrickdickey
[01:11] <nasaeli> no success :(
[01:11] <Karlo_> No menu
[01:12] <intrader> L3top,  so should I upgrade?
[01:12] <smw_> intrader, I think normal updating is the same thing
[01:12] <Karlo_> Sequence was: select recovery mode, hit Enter; it runs through some stuff and then tells me that / is not ready.  I hit S, it tells me that /tmp is not ready, then mountall fails, then it hangs.
[01:13] <L3top> intrader: I am a firm believer in "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" but in the case of point releases I tend to violate that belief.
[01:13]  * PatrickDickey agrees with L3top on that
[01:13] <smw_> L3top, same question, isn't a point release just updating?
[01:13] <nasaeli> the same thing as karlo
[01:13] <intrader> L3top,  thank you
[01:13] <Karlo_> I knew that if I stayed at 10.04, then any time I ask for help, I'd be told "you should upgrade your archaic system".
[01:13] <smw_> L3top, isn't a point release just a new install disk with updates already on it?
[01:14] <L3top> smw_: not necessarily.
[01:14] <Karlo_> Rebooting...  Hitting M this time...  Now in runlevel 1 again.  At least I can do *something* from here.
[01:14] <smw_> L3top, what is different?
[01:14] <PatrickDickey> Karlo_:  and nasaeli, I'm at a loss. If you want to do the reinstall method, you can get either a 10.04 or 12.04 cd and create a USB iso from it. You can do it from the computer you're on now. Then when you boot to it, choose the option to "Try" first. You can copy whatever you need to keep from the hard drive to another one (external or networked).
[01:14] <WXZ> do you have to log-on/off for the panel apps to be addable when you download them?
[01:15] <Karlo_> OK, actually I've already obtained both a CD and a Thumb drive with either 12.04 or 12.04.1 on it, but...
[01:15] <PatrickDickey> Karlo, are you still in the recovery (where you pressed M)?
[01:15] <nasaeli> patrickickey, can I get from a usb stick
[01:16] <L3top> smw_: it is more about what can be different... one moment, I am finding you a link.
[01:16] <PatrickDickey> nasaeli: yes, you should be able to. But, we might be able to do something different. When you boot up, press M like Karlo did.
[01:17] <PatrickDickey> Karlo_: * and are you still in that recovery mode that you got to when you pressed M?
[01:17] <Karlo_> I rebooted, selected recovery mode from the GRUB menu, got to the error point, pressed M, got a shell.
[01:18] <Karlo_> And now I've remounted / as before.
[01:18] <PatrickDickey> ok try mounting / again. Then we're going to try dpkg --configure -a I'm thinking the upgrade didn't finish.
[01:18] <Karlo_> Can that work, without the network running?
[01:18] <L3top> smw_: I can't find what I am looking for, but point releases basically have a bunch of bug fixes like a service pack in win, and support a lot more hardware and bring with it the infrastructure to handle those changes, while simply upgrading might not have all of the pieces together... is my understanding.
[01:19] <PatrickDickey> Good point. it might, if it had already downloaded everything.
[01:19] <smw_> L3top, they bring new hardware because they update the kernel
[01:19] <smw_> L3top, are you saying new software may be added to a point release?
[01:20] <L3top> There is a lot of plumbing involved supporting hardware abstraction etc... I am saying that a point release is a more stable platform on which to continue to build.
[01:20] <smw_> L3top, it is of course more stable.
[01:20] <Karlo_> dpkg: error: parsing file '/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 16009 package 'lexmark-inkjet-08-driver': blank line in value of field 'Description'
[01:20] <smw_> L3top, it has all the updates, I am asking if it is any different than an install which has been updated
[01:21] <smw_> L3top, it appears to me that it is just a snapshot in time
[01:21] <L3top> smw_: we are off topic. You can continue the discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic if you like
[01:21] <PatrickDickey> Ubuntu 12.04.1 is just Ubuntu 12.04 but with all upgrades applied to it.
[01:21] <Karlo_> L3top, when I first wanted to upgrade to 12.04, I was told to wait for the first point release.
[01:21] <smw_> L3top, this doesn't seem particularly offtopic...
[01:22] <L3top> It is. It is not a support question, it is chitchat, and you are somewhat adversarial, and this is not the place for debate.
[01:22] <nasaeli> I.m trying to download the 10.04 version,patrickdickey
[01:22] <PatrickDickey> nasaeli: that sounds like a good plan. You can burn it to the USB from the computer you're on.
[01:22] <nasaeli> do you have a link where I can do it? I tried one but it does not work
[01:23] <PatrickDickey> nasaeli: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads
[01:23] <L3top> nasaeli: http://releases.ubuntu.com/lucid/
[01:23] <PatrickDickey> I don't think they'll allow you to get 10.04 anymore. But, I'll look a bit further.
[01:24] <PatrickDickey> Ahhh nasaeli check the link L3top just gave you.
[01:24] <Karlo_> Anyway, as I was saying...  I *did* obtain a boot CD, and also a thumb drive, but I discovered that (a) the computer apparently never had a driver for the CD, and (b) although the BIOS can boot from removable media, this doesn't include USB, but only floppy.
[01:24] <Karlo_> So, I continued to Plan G or whatever the hell I'm up to by now.
[01:25] <PatrickDickey> Karlo_: it won't boot to the CD then? Or you couldn't burn it to the CD?
[01:25] <Karlo_> I could burn to CD, but not boot from it.
[01:25] <Karlo_> The system acts as if the CD were not there.
[01:26] <PatrickDickey> Karlo_: did you try the CD in another computer? Just to make sure that it worked?
[01:26] <Karlo_> Yes, I did.
[01:26] <PatrickDickey> Karlo_: and in BIOS on the computer you're trying to fix, did you change the boot order to CD first?
[01:26] <nasaeli> patrick, it.s downloading
[01:26] <Karlo_> Yes
[01:27] <PatrickDickey> Hmmm. That's a different problem altogether.
[01:27] <defekt> ubuntu is worse than MS with their updates these days
[01:27] <Karlo_> And I now seem to recall having observed once before that this (now down) machine didn't have a CD driver.  Bad oversight on my part, I guess.
[01:27] <nasaeli> patrickdickey,is gonna take forever
[01:27] <nasaeli> once I have in my stick what do I do?
[01:27] <rypervenche> I don't see why so many people complain. If you don't like it, then dont use it.
[01:27] <Karlo_> I obtained an executable called "unetbootin-linux-581" from http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ and the iso image file "ubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-i386.iso" -- I got these onto a thumb drive, and from there onto the hard disk of the broken machine.
[01:28] <defekt> rypervenche: and let the issues keep on compounding?
[01:28] <defekt> rypervenche: makes real sence
[01:28] <Karlo_> I was told that this executable, reading this ISO file, can do some magic to put it into a bootable location.
[01:28] <PatrickDickey> nasaeli: plug your stick into the computer and boot from it. Then choose "Try" instead of "Install". It'll open up to the desktop. You'll want to copy everything that you want to keep off of the computer.
[01:29] <rypervenche> defekt: Then stop complaining about it and do something.
[01:29] <Karlo_> When I run the executable, it says it can't find the display.  The damn thing requires a GUI.  Is it reasonable to start X from runlevel 1?
[01:29] <PatrickDickey> Karlo_: so you booted to the drive that you created with unetbootin? or you copied it some other way?
[01:29] <Karlo_> I mounted the thumb drive and copied the file off of it.
[01:30] <nasaeli> ok, I.ll do patrickdickey, once it downloads. It.s gonna take a long time :(
[01:30] <defekt> rypervenche: how about they stop releasing broken packages?
[01:31] <bazhang> !bugs | defekt
[01:31] <bazhang> file some defekt
[01:32] <rypervenche> defekt: Seriously, stop complaining and either work toward fixing them, or stop using it, but complaining while continuing to use it is just pointless and annoying.
[01:32] <bazhang> rypervenche, lets move on
[01:32] <rypervenche> nuff said
[01:32] <bazhang> thanks
[01:33] <PatrickDickey> Karlo_: right now you have / mounted as rw, right? in recovery mode, I mean.
[01:33] <Karlo_> Yes
[01:34] <PatrickDickey> Karlo_: try this then telinit 5  It should put you into X.
[01:34] <Karlo_> I got that error from dpkg, but the glitch it describes is easy to fix
[01:34] <Karlo_> Shall I go ahead and fix it?  Or would I be risking corruption somewhere else if I do?
[01:35] <defekt> Lets release broken security updates to main production systems then get the end users to submit bug reports because Ubuntu is to busy trying to push out their new release before the previous one is even fixed .. good logic. Don'y worry I wont complain anymore I will just be moving every system off ubuntu. That said good bye Shitbuntu
[01:36] <PatrickDickey> Karlo_:  try fixing it then. The error from dpkg, I mean.
[01:37] <Karlo_> Retrying the dpkg command...
[01:38] <hola> hello
[01:38] <hola> i installed windows in a partition
[01:38] <hola> then i installed ubuntu in other
[01:38] <Jordan_U> hola: Please try to keep your comments on one line rather than splitting them up.
[01:38] <hola> but when Turn the computer on, it doesn't ask me which one to choose
[01:38] <hola> kk
[01:39] <PatrickDickey> hola, did you install windows before ubuntu or the other way around?
[01:39] <hola> windows before ubuntu
[01:39] <PatrickDickey> and which does it boot into automatically?
[01:40] <hola> ubuntu
[01:40] <elvis4526> is 1gb of ram enough to use unity?
[01:40] <Karlo_> From dpkg, I got a bunch of output, some of which said that it was leaving stuff unconfigured; but now I'm in a GUI asking how to configure the console.
[01:40] <PatrickDickey> Karlo_: what are the options?
[01:41] <Jordan_U> hola: What is the output of "sudo os-prober" from within Ubuntu?
[01:41] <PatrickDickey> hola, open a terminal, and type sudo update-grub and see if it finds your Windows partition.
[01:41] <Karlo_> UTF-8 was the default for the first question, and I decided that sounded good.
[01:41] <PatrickDickey> hola, try Jordan_U's suggestion first.
[01:41] <Karlo_> Second question asked what alphabet, and I went with Latin-1 and Latin-5.
[01:42] <Karlo_> Now I'm back to a shell prompt
[01:42] <hola> Jordan's command returns nothing
[01:42] <zoktar> anyone know a good app for ipod touch, "ios 3.1.3" for ubuntu remote desktop access ?-
[01:42] <PatrickDickey> hola try sudo update-grub then.
[01:42] <PatrickDickey> Karlo, try the dpkg --configure -a command again.
[01:44] <hola> PatricDickey
[01:45] <PatrickDickey> yes hola?
[01:45] <hola> PatricDickey: it says that this image was found Se encontró una imagen linux: /boot/vmlinuz-3.5.0-17-generic Se encontró una imagen initrd: /boot/initrd.img-3.5.0-17-generic Found memtest86+ image: /boot/memtest86+.bin hecho
[01:45] <hola> linux and initrd
[01:46] <PatrickDickey> hola, type fdisk -l and make sure that the windows partition is there.
[01:46] <hola> i've got ubuntu in spanish
[01:46] <bjrohan> TheLordOfTime: After a short break and searching I found the page on the website that says it can't detect java on my system even though I can run the app just fine. I can also load the times crossword puzzle which is java, plus the page you sent me.
[01:46] <PatrickDickey> hola, would it be easier to troubleshoot in Spanish?
[01:46] <Karlo_> dpkg --configure -a ==> page full of errors (looks like most/all are dependency problems), and I get back a prompt within seconds now.
[01:46] <TheLordOfTime> bjrohan, perhaps they require 1.6 and not 1.7?
[01:46] <TheLordOfTime> bjrohan, i know for a few web applications I use, i had to install both
[01:47] <TheLordOfTime> (Java 6 and Java 7)
[01:47] <hola> that's where windows should run
[01:47] <bjrohan> TheLordOfTime: I did have jre6 installed with icedtea 6 and still a no go, but I can try to install again for poops and giggles
[01:47] <hola> PatrickDickey: /dev/sda4       560861184  1953523711   696331264    7  HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
[01:47] <TheLordOfTime> bjrohan, which JRE :P
[01:47] <TheLordOfTime> bjrohan, Oracle?
[01:48] <bjrohan> TheLordOfTime: That I do not know, I didn't know there were different once. Which/how do you recommend I install?
[01:48] <bjrohan> TheLordOfTime: I am new :-)
[01:48] <TheLordOfTime> !java
[01:48] <TheLordOfTime> bjrohan, read that, i'd recommend the Oracle one since most web apps use it
[01:48] <TheLordOfTime> bjrohan, i had to install both on Ubuntu, and Windows.  :p
[01:48] <PatrickDickey> Karlo_: try this /etc/init.d/networking start
[01:49] <hola> PatrickDickey: I Can see the windows partition from ubuntu and I see the files
[01:49] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | hola
[01:49] <bjrohan> TheLordOfTime: wow, both on both. I should consider installing the SDK and JDK? Do you recommend I install via package manager?
[01:49] <TheLordOfTime> bjrohan, you can't install Java 6 via that, not easily
[01:50] <bjrohan> TheLordOfTime: How do you recommend?
[01:50] <TheLordOfTime> bjrohan, i always run the JDK (not JRE, because JDK comes with a JRE, but sometimes the JRE is needed in addition to the JDK)
[01:50] <excervo> hello guys, any channels about ubuntu for developer?
[01:50] <bjrohan> TheLordOfTime: openjdk 6? I have 7 installed
[01:50] <TheLordOfTime> bjrohan, i'd follow what is there on that guide.
[01:50] <TheLordOfTime> bjrohan, oracle
[01:50] <TheLordOfTime> not open
[01:50] <TheLordOfTime> go read that wiki page
[01:50] <bjrohan> TheLordOfTime: How do I know which is Oracle? is that what that page uses?
[01:51] <TheLordOfTime> its pretty blatant if you read the wiki page i gave you
[01:51] <PatrickDickey> excervo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList
[01:51] <excervo> Thanks PatrickDickey
[01:51] <PatrickDickey> excervo: no problem.
[01:51] <bjrohan> TheLordOfTime: Okay :-)
[01:52] <TheLordOfTime> bjrohan, if you go with Oracle Java 7, you should be fine
[01:52] <TheLordOfTime> bjrohan, use that as your primary "plugin" for java, you may have to configure it by hand (the wiki explains how last I used it)
[01:53] <bjrohan> TheLordOfTime:  I think that is what I have, in package manager I have openjdk7 -re-lib
[01:53]  * TheLordOfTime sighs
[01:53] <TheLordOfTime> bjrohan, openjdk is NOT Oracle Java
[01:53] <Karlo_> I type "service networking start", and it responds "networking stop/waiting".
[01:54] <TheLordOfTime> bjrohan, a lot of web apps use Oracle java because it has specific things that the openjdk does not
[01:54] <TheLordOfTime> bjrohan, that's why I recommended it.  because the applet yoiu mentioned works on my setups
[01:54] <TheLordOfTime> and I only use Oracle's Java
[01:54] <TheLordOfTime> and plugin
[01:55] <PatrickDickey> TheLordOfTime: And yet, Oracle "claims" that open-jdk is good enough. Or have they changed that stance. I know they were going to stop making java for linux because of it.
[01:55] <TheLordOfTime> PatrickDickey, some web apps check versions.  they still have Java 7.
[01:55] <TheLordOfTime> PatrickDickey, the web apps can search for "Oracle Only" or similar
[01:56] <TheLordOfTime> PatrickDickey, i suggested it as a potential option, but otherwise if that still doesn't work, then its an issue that I wouldnt be able to trace
[01:56] <bjrohan> TheLordOfTime: Now I gotcha, I was stuck at the top where it listed all kinds of java, and only IBM my a name, Scolling down it then says the Oracle Java 7. so NO Open JDK. Do you recommend I uninstall the other java I have?
[01:56] <TheLordOfTime> bjrohan, at least temporarily, yes.
[01:56] <PatrickDickey> Karlo_: is it still stop/waiting, or do you have a prompt now?
[01:57] <bjrohan> TheLordOfTime:  Will do. and by that simply by package manager, and uninstall IcedTea7 too?
[01:57] <Jordan_U> hola: Do you understand how to run Boot info script and post the RESULTS.txt that it produces?
[01:58] <bjrohan> TheLordOfTime: When I do it wants to install jkd6 and icedtea 6 then in its place :-(
[01:58] <TheLordOfTime> bjrohan, wouldnt hurt, but use Java 7 either way.  bjrohan the IcedTea plugin might be incompatible with Oracle.  note though since its pretty much a manual install you'd run into issues.  try using the webupd8 method.
[01:58] <Karlo_> It gave me that one line of output, and then returned to the shell prompt.  "echo $?" ==> 0, so it's calling that a success, but I don't know what the output line means.  ping fails.  So, networking is still down, it seems.
[01:58] <TheLordOfTime> bjrohan, then leave icedtea 7 and jdk7 in place
[01:58] <TheLordOfTime> bjrohan, although if Oracle says openjdk is sufficient, than i'd believe them
[01:58] <Flynsarmy> When attempting to use the net on my ubuntu minimal install i'm getting "failed: Temporary failure in name resolution.". I think it may have something to do with me adding teh followign to /etc/network/interfaces: http://pastebin.com/8qsLsBkC i'm ssh'd into the box so its ethernet network is working...its just not getting net now for some reason. ideas?
[01:58] <TheLordOfTime> PatrickDickey, show me the press release where they say that, and i'll believe you, otherwise...
[01:58] <PatrickDickey> Karlo_: type ifconfig and see if it has an inet addr for eth0 (something other than 169.x.x.x)
[01:58] <bjrohan> okay. I will give the webupd8 a go
[01:58] <Karlo_> And telinit 5 couldn't start X, but it did give me a login prompt, which I had to deal with since I also had a shell prompt at the same time, competing for input.  (I logged in and started a long sleep)
[01:59] <PatrickDickey> TheLordOfTime: I don't remember exactly where it was. But it had something to do with then not making .deb files anymore for Java 7.
[01:59] <TheLordOfTime> PatrickDickey, doesn't mean they won't produce the installer(s) for Java 7 anyways.
[01:59] <TheLordOfTime> PatrickDickey, "not producing .debs" isnt "not producing Linux-compatible tarballs"
[02:00] <Karlo_> ifconfig has no output that mentions "eth" (grep agrees)
[02:00] <hola> Jordan_u: no, I don't
[02:00] <nbf> so who's signed up for the steam beta
[02:00] <nbf> this guy is
[02:00] <TheLordOfTime> !offtopic | nbf
[02:00] <client> irc.theoccult.bz/#theoccult.bz
[02:00] <nbf> how is that offtopic
[02:00] <TheLordOfTime> nbf, this channel is for ubuntu support, not discussion of other topics.  that's what the offtopic channel is for
[02:01] <nbf> fucking stupid
[02:01] <PatrickDickey> TheLordOfTime: http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Oracle-retires-licence-for-distributing-its-Java-with-Linux-1332835.html is where I found it originally.
[02:01] <TheLordOfTime> !language | nbf
[02:01] <nbf> there should be an #ubuntu-support
[02:01] <IdleOne> !language | nbf
[02:01] <nbf> fuck you
[02:01] <PatrickDickey> Karlo_: does it only have lo?
[02:01] <client> !help
[02:02] <client> how do you join a room? it's been a while since i've used irc
[02:02] <nbf> alright TheLordOfTime
[02:02] <nbf> that's how we're going to roll
[02:02] <TheLordOfTime> nbf, talk to IdleOne
[02:02] <PatrickDickey> client /join channelname
[02:02] <bazhang> nbf, thats enough
[02:02] <TheLordOfTime> he's an op here
[02:02] <TheLordOfTime> i'm not
[02:02] <Karlo_> correct, lo only
[02:03] <TheLordOfTime> PatrickDickey, that doesn't mean they're creating the tarballs for manual builds
[02:04] <TheLordOfTime> PatrickDickey, that just meansyou can't distribute oracle java 7 with the OS, doesn't forgo manual installation
[02:04] <PatrickDickey> Karlo, I'm going to give you a link for configuring a network interface. You'll want to add eth0 inet static, and give it an IP Address that's similar to the one on the computer you're using now. Are you on a windows or linux system right now?
[02:05] <PatrickDickey> TheLordOfTime: very true. The distributed version was much easier to use though.
[02:05] <Karlo_> Linux
[02:06] <PatrickDickey> ok Karlo_ you'll do the ifconfig command again. You can actually do ifconfig eth0 and it will give you the information. If your inet addr is something like 192.168.2.x, pick the number right above that, and put it in for the other computer's static IP address.
[02:08] <PatrickDickey> Here's the link for configuring the IP Address (it's for server, but works for desktops also).https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/network-configuration.html
[02:08] <hola> Jordan_U: here's the result.txt
[02:08] <hola> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/FjeehzjY
[02:09] <const_antine> hi, I'd like to prevent non-admin users from being able to shut down the computer
[02:09] <Karlo_> I've got a three-machine LAN connected to a router with a firewall in there somewhere -- it's been years since I've played with this, but I have some notes from earlier experience.
[02:10] <const_antine> and restart, too
[02:11] <PatrickDickey> Karlo_: then I'd pick a number that's about 5 higher than whatever this computer is. Just to be safe. The router won't block it, because it'll be a valid IP for the subnet.
[02:11] <bjrohan> TheLordOfTime: THANK YOU! Installing the Oracle 7 Java via webupd8 worked flawlessly and now all is working well. THANK YOU AGAIN
[02:12] <TheLordOfTime> bjrohan, you're welcome.  i'll bet it was doing a version check, and asserting oracle only
[02:12] <TheLordOfTime> bjrohan, i've seen a few web apps like that.
[02:13] <bjrohan> TheLordOfTime:  FWIW I go back to that app main site, and the detect page still says I need Java, but it works there as it has, AND the website for work the utlilizes said app from screenr now works where it wouldn't before
[02:13] <PatrickDickey> Karlo_: basically what we're trying to do is this: Get an IP Address for the NIC, so you have networking again. Then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade so it can finish upgrading.
[02:13] <const_antine> any idea how? does the cpu have to be in secure mode?
[02:14] <Jordan_U> hola: The reason that Windows isn't listed is that you've deleted the Windows System partition (which is a separate small partition, not "C:", which is needed for Windows to be able to boot).
[02:14] <const_antine> should /sbin/shutdown access be restricted?
[02:14] <TheLordOfTime> const_antine, to sudo/superuser, yes.
[02:15] <TheLordOfTime> const_antine, you need superuser for it to work last i checked
[02:15] <hola> oh, so I have to create that partition an then install windows again?
[02:15] <Jordan_U> hola: Installing Windows again should create everything that's needed, just make sure that you don't delete the partiton.
[02:16] <TheLordOfTime> const_antine, are you asserting it shouldn't be restricted-access?
[02:16] <PatrickDickey> const_antine: you could try kiosk mode (if it's still available in ubuntu).
[02:16] <TheLordOfTime> or are you saying its not restricted and it should be?
[02:17] <const_antine> system reboot/shutdown should be restricted, and i don't know if it is
[02:17] <const_antine> (about to test that)
[02:17] <PatrickDickey> Jordan_U: could he do a repair on Windows, like startup repair? and then run Grub via a live CD to get Ubuntu booting again?
[02:18] <TheLordOfTime> const_antine, last i checked it is restricted, the Security team would probably flag it as a security risk if it werent...
[02:18] <const_antine> kiosk mode, interesting
[02:18] <Karlo_> (Going on hold here, while I deal with other stuff for a while.)
[02:18] <ahmedipa> Hi question regarding bluetooth
[02:18] <hola> Jordan_U: When I separated the disk in two partitions, I created one of 700gb (for windows) and the other 200gb (for ubuntu), why is that windows took the 200gb partition as windows 7 loader?
[02:19] <PatrickDickey> Karlo_:  I have to step away for about ten minutes also. If you get back before I do, try the configuration and then ping something. If it works, then try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade. Let it do it's thing (upgrading whatever it can) and then reboot.
[02:19] <ahmedipa> http://i.imgur.com/EZofI.png
[02:19] <ahmedipa> this is my problem for bluetooth
[02:19] <PatrickDickey> hola, because it needed a partition for it's bootloader, and somewhere along the lines, it decided that was a good one to use.
[02:20] <excervo> hello guys, how do i setup terminal with different commands executed at startup?
[02:20] <PatrickDickey> ahmedipa: did you click the little button next to Off? What happened when you did?
[02:20] <hola> So, now that the 200gb partitions is being used by ubuntu, Windows will create another partition for windows 7 loader?
[02:20] <PatrickDickey> excervo, do you mean so the terminal looks different than the default?
[02:21] <ahmedipa> yes
[02:21] <Jordan_U> PatrickDickey: The normal fixboot/fixmbr would *not* be enough, but there may be a repair operation which would restore the System partition, I just don't know of it myslef.
[02:21] <Logos01> Hello. I just got a new DVI-in capable television and am attempting to use it as a second monitor on my Ubuntu 12.04 amd64 HTPC. My current monitor is attached to the VGA-out port of my nVidia GeForce GT 440 video card; the second monitor is attached to the DVI-out.
[02:21] <ahmedipa> bluetooth on
[02:21] <PatrickDickey> hola, you need to create a small partition for the loader.
[02:21] <Logos01> When I attempt to log in at the login screen, the password is accepted, the screen goes black, and I am dumped back into the login screen.
[02:21] <PatrickDickey> ahmedipa: did that fix your problem then?
[02:21] <hola> PatrickDickey: Is 4GB enough?
[02:21] <Logos01> If I switch to an alternate TTY I can log in fine.
[02:21] <ahmedipa> then the picture appear
[02:21] <Logos01> Has anyone ver seen this? How can I resolve it?
[02:22] <ahmedipa> no it is not fixed
[02:22] <excervo> PatrickDickey thats the idea but i want to auto run commands when i open terminal
[02:22] <PatrickDickey> hola, yes. If I remember right, it's only about 500 MB, but don't quote me on that. 4GB should be perfect.
[02:22] <const_antine> TheLordOfTime, you're right, desktop users cannot do that unless they're in sudoers
[02:22] <PatrickDickey> excervo, you probably have to edit your .bashrc file. I can give you a link to an example of one.
[02:23] <hola> Thanks Jordan_U and PatrickDickey for you help! I'll try your solution
[02:24] <ahmedipa> patrickDickey: if I press bluetooth setting , it will show me the same shot that I give you
[02:24] <ahmedipa> http://i.imgur.com/EZofI.png
[02:24] <excervo> PatrickDickey, thanks \ yes please
[02:24] <PatrickDickey> http://bodhizazen.net/Tutorials/bashrc excervo
[02:25] <excervo> PatrickDickey, Thanks
[02:25] <PatrickDickey> excervo: no problem.
[02:25] <PatrickDickey> ahmedipa: so, when you click the button next to Bluetooth, it turns on, but then turns off again?
[02:25] <ahmedipa> patrickDickey: not that my ubuntu version is 12.04
[02:25] <const_antine> Has anybody played with Raspberry Pi? Can Ubuntu run on it?
[02:26] <PatrickDickey> const_antine: http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=5150
[02:27] <const_antine> ty so much
[02:27] <ahmedipa> patrickDickey: it will be on (active) if it is on
[02:27] <ahmedipa> patrickDickey: it will be off(not active) if it is off
[02:27] <PatrickDickey> ahmedipa: isn't that what you're trying to do? And more importantly, do you have a bluetooth adapter in your computer?
[02:28] <PatrickDickey> const_antine: no problem.
[02:28] <hola> PatrickDickey: Gparted says  that it's not possible to create more than 4 primary partitions
[02:29] <ahmedipa> patrickDickey: I think that before my bluetooth worked
[02:29] <ahmedipa> but, now it is not working
[02:29] <PatrickDickey> hola, don't make it a primary one. make it a logical one.
[02:30] <PatrickDickey> ahmedipa: is the bluetooth built into the computer or an addon?
[02:30] <ahmedipa> PatrickDickey: It is built into the computer.
[02:30] <ahmedipa> not an addon
[02:31] <PatrickDickey> ahmedipa: It sounds like a driver didn't load.
[02:31] <Jordan_U> PatrickDickey: The Windows System partition needs to be primary, but the Windows installer will create that itself. I unfortunatly need to leave now, but the easiest thing to do at this point (if hola doesn't mind losing all data currently on the drive) would be to remove all partitions, install Windows normally using default settings, then install Ubuntu using automatic partitioning (letting Ubuntu resize the Windows partition as ...
[02:31] <Jordan_U> ... needed). Hola also made mistakes on the selection of where grub's boot sector should go, so since I don't have time to explain everything to do it's best to use the default options of the Ubuntu installer as they will do everything correctly.
[02:31] <ahmedipa> Mybe
[02:32] <kostkon> ahmedipa, does: hcitool dev  output anything?
[02:32] <PatrickDickey> Jordan_U: and hola, I agree. SInce he can boot to Ubuntu and get into the Windows partition, I'd copy everything (documents, pictures, music, etc) to another drive or USB drive. Then do that.
[02:33] <ahmedipa> So, is there any driver of Bluetooth for UBUNTU 12.04
[02:33] <ahmedipa> ??
[02:33] <aries> exit
[02:33] <aries> quit
[02:33] <ahmedipa> patrickDickey: I don't know what do you mean by hcitool dev
[02:33] <julian_c> ahmedipa: It will depend on the hardware.
[02:34] <julian_c> ahmedipa: Most Bluetooth adapters "just work" with the bundled kernel modules.
[02:34] <kostkon> ahmedipa, i was the one who gave you the command. Just open the terminal, type that command and then press enter.
[02:35] <ahmedipa> ok
[02:35] <PatrickDickey> aries, are you trying to leave? If so, it's /part or /quit
[02:36] <ahmedipa> kostkon: I opened the Terminal
[02:36] <hola> Jordan_U: and PatrickDickey, Really thanks for all your help
[02:36] <kostkon> ahmedipa, type:  hcitool dev
[02:37] <ahmedipa> kostkon: then
[02:37] <kostkon> ahmedipa, just press enter
[02:37] <PatrickDickey> hola no problem. I'd copy everything that you need to save off of the computer, and do Jordan_U's suggestion of a complete reinstall of Windows. Then install ubuntu, and choose the "install alongside Windows" and let it do the work. (in other words, when you install windows, use the whole drive).
[02:37] <ahmedipa> I saw Devices:
[02:38] <kostkon> ahmedipa, just that, without anything below that heading?
[02:38] <researcher123> how to remove s7.addthis.com? Web page fails to  open
[02:38] <hola> PatrickDickey: Ok, I'll do it now, Thanks and Bye!
[02:39] <ahmedipa> no thing else
[02:39] <kostkon> ahmedipa, then it seems that you bluetooth device isn't being detected
[02:39] <ahmedipa> aha
[02:40] <ahmedipa> so
[02:41] <ahmedipa> do you think that I have to buy bluetooth
[02:41] <ahmedipa> ??
[02:41] <ahmedipa> or there is another way to solve this problem.
[02:41] <kostkon> ahmedipa, you could try to find which device you have and then check if there are any solutions to make it work on ubuntu
[02:42] <kostkon> ahmedipa, otherwise, you could buy a usb bluetooth adapter
[02:42] <kostkon> ahmedipa, one that works on ubuntu, obviously
[02:43] <Logos01>  /wc
[02:44] <ahmedipa> is there any other command
[02:45] <ahmedipa> for bluetooth
[02:45] <kostkon> ahmedipa, could you give this command, in the terminal again:  dmesg | grep Bluetooth
[02:45] <PatrickDickey> ahmedipa: look up the specifications for your computer to find out which bluetooth it uses. then google that bluetooth and ubuntu. It should give you advice on how to get it working.
[02:46] <ahmedipa> thanks a lot
[02:49] <danman1453> hello all
[02:50] <danman1453> For those of you that helped me out before, i would like to say thanks. I was having trouble getting 12.04 to install. I decided to stick with 11.04. It runs flawlessly.
[02:50] <elvis4526> I have a netbook
[02:50] <wilee-nilee> !11.04
[02:50] <elvis4526> with 1gb of ram. Will ubuntu 12.04 be fine?
[02:51] <elvis4526> With unity of course !
[02:51] <ejholmgren_> join #xchat
[02:51] <ejholmgren_> 234242434
[02:51] <FloodBot1> ejholmgren_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:51] <kostkon> elvis4526, barely
[02:51] <danman1453> 11.04 is running on 1gb fine for me.
[02:51] <wilee-nilee> danman1453, 11.04 goes end of life any day now. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[02:52] <Flynsarmy> Say i have a text file with a URL in it which I can access with head -n1 myfile.txt - how can I feed that into wget to dl that URL?
[02:52] <danman1453> that may be, but it works good on my hardware.
[02:52] <elvis4526> kostkon: On the wiki, it is written that a netbook with 1gb of ram is "good"
[02:52] <kostkon> elvis4526, oh darn, i have it on a netbook with 1gb and it's fine
[02:52] <wilee-nilee> cool, just wanted to make sure you knew, 10.04 is covered for 6 months I think.
[02:52] <kostkon> elvis4526, sorry it's too late here, the lack of sleep....
[02:52] <elvis4526> kostkon: It's fluid?
[02:53] <kostkon> elvis4526, it's fine
[02:53] <elvis4526> kostkon: What you tought I was asking? :p
[02:53] <kostkon> elvis4526, a very little lagy sometimes but it's decent
[02:53] <kostkon> minus a*
[02:53] <danman1453> wilee-nilee, my hardware is from 2003. So, kinda outdated regardless of software.
[02:53] <jab416171|Cloud> is it safe to assume that the touchscreen on the n7 should work?
[02:54] <elvis4526> kostkon: What operations are laggy?
[02:54] <kostkon> elvis4526, i don't really know anymore :P
[02:54] <Flynsarmy> answer: wget -t1 -i file.txt
[02:54] <kostkon> elvis4526, just the minimise maximise of windows, but it's to be expected for a netbooks graphics card, intel 3150
[02:54] <danman1453> how would I auto complete a nickname here on irc chat?
[02:55] <wilee-nilee> !tab
[02:55] <danman1453> thanks
[02:55] <elvis4526> kok
[02:56] <danman1453> anybody know any keep alive tricks for a canon printer?
[02:57] <danman1453> I would like to use it as a network printer, but it shuts off after #x minutes.
[02:57] <PKKid2> Hey, Is there a way to save a desktop "Profile" (so to speak) remembering my open apps and their positions?
[02:58] <hola> PatrickDickey: why I can't delete the linux-swap partition?
[02:58] <wols_> hola: you can. it would just be a bad idea to do so
[02:59] <bij> is there a way to make an image of /dev/sda1 on U12.10?
[02:59] <elvis4526> hola: why you don't want your swap partition ? O.o
[02:59] <wastrel> danman1453: a lot of printers come with web gui configurators you could maybe set it there to not do that
[03:00] <danman1453> i havent been able to find a gui for my canon yet.
[03:00] <wols_> bij: sure there is. dd, clonezilla, etc. just make sure /dev/sda1 is not mounted or mounted read-only when doing it
[03:00] <pepee> bij, cp /dev/sda1 /path/to/dir/file ?
[03:00] <hola> elvis4526: because I want to delete all partitions and make a clean install of windows and ubuntu together
[03:00] <pepee> bij, and yeah, make sure it isn't mounted
[03:00] <wastrel> danman1453: what if you run nmap against it, do you se any interesting ports open?
[03:00] <PatrickDickey> hola did you copy everything that you want to save off of the computer?
[03:01] <hola> PatricDickey: Yes
[03:01] <bij> I am talking about Ubuntu 12.10 new function added under Disks.
[03:01] <elvis4526> hola: Just delete every partition from the windows cd, partition your hdd so you give all the place that you want for windows, install windows, and install ubuntu in the space left.
[03:02] <PatrickDickey> hola, then put your Windows DVD in the drive, and reboot. Go through the installation and when it comes to drives, give it the entire drive (you may have to delete partitions and then recreate one partition for everything). After it's done, then boot into it once (just to make sure it works). Then put your ubuntu CD in, and boot to that. Install alongside Windows.
[03:02] <PatrickDickey> elvis4526: He tried that, but Windows put it's bootloader in the partition that he eventually put Linux in. So it won't boot to Windows now.
[03:03] <WeThePeople> do servers see the lsb_release file??
[03:03] <puff> I need a package that was removed several versions back (two actually:  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/amd64/libxprintapputil1/1:1.0.1.xsf1-3 and https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/amd64/libxprintutil1/1:1.0.1.xsf1-3 )
[03:03] <hola> PatrickDickey: I have to delete all the partitions from the windows cd? or I should use gparted before
[03:03] <puff> I'm looking at building from source; I can download the source files by following links on those pages, but is there a more "proper" way to get sources via some apt or dpkg command?
[03:03] <elvis4526> afaik, windows do not put his bootloader on a normal partition, but in the mbr.
[03:04] <danman1453> hola, it kinda sounds like you are trying to delete a mounted partition
[03:04] <PatrickDickey> hola, I'd say do it through the windows DVD. That way you're not trying to delete a partitoin that you're currently using (like swap)
[03:04] <elvis4526> After installing windows, you just override the windows mbr with grub2 so you can boot both os.
[03:04] <PatrickDickey> elvis4526: Windows 7 uses a separate partition for /boot.
[03:04] <danman1453> hola, try taking your shoes off while still STANDING in the,
[03:04] <wols_> PatrickDickey: not necessarily, but who cares?
[03:04] <danman1453> *them
[03:04] <elvis4526> oh the hidden system partition?
[03:05] <PatrickDickey> Yes elvis4526.
[03:05] <hola> PatrickDickey: Ok, i will start now
[03:05] <wachpwnski> one of my devices changed order from sdg to sdc. It just killed my zpool, how can i set it back to sdg?
[03:05] <wachpwnski> or reinit the drive in my zfs pool?
[03:05] <elvis4526> And? just don't touch this partition when you install ubuntu and your done.
[03:05] <PatrickDickey> wols, he wants to dual-boot. So he needs to get it set up correctly.
[03:05] <elvis4526> What's the problem?
[03:05] <wols_> puff: there is. apt-get source
[03:05] <wols_> PatrickDickey: that ubuntu does automatically. and the win7 parition doesn't matter
[03:06] <puff> wols_: For packages that were deleted?
[03:06] <PatrickDickey> wols, I understand that. The problem is, when he installed Windows, it put the bootloader in the wrong place. And ubuntu wiped that out because that's where it was going.
[03:06] <Zigzag> HACKERS SCARE ME!
[03:07] <danman1453> teenagers scare me
[03:07] <elvis4526> Yes but he install GRUB WHEN INSTALLING UBUNTU
[03:07] <wols_> PatrickDickey: for any package which has a debian/ directory.
[03:07]  * PatrickDickey CRACKERS scare me.. Hackers aren't the same thing.
[03:07] <elvis4526> Grub2 detect windows7, add an entry for it, and that's it
[03:07] <Zigzag> HACKERS PLAY PRANKS
[03:07] <Zigzag> they screwed with my server
[03:07] <PatrickDickey> No, it won't. Because he formatted the partition that has Windows 7's bootloader.
[03:07] <Zigzag> and now im screwed
[03:07] <bazhang> !ot | Zigzag
[03:07] <elvis4526> Why he formatted it?
[03:08] <elvis4526> Just don't touch the hidden windows partition. It's not complicated for god sake !
[03:08] <PatrickDickey> Because that's where he was putting ubuntu. he created two partitions. One for Windows, and one for ubuntu. Windows in it's stupidity put the bootloader in the second partition (the one for Ubuntu).
[03:08] <wols_> puff: get the source from the oneiric archive and build it. then you can install it via dpkg -i and uninstall later if needed too
[03:08] <elvis4526> Yes, but if you install Ubuntu after Windows
[03:08] <elvis4526> There is no problem.
[03:09] <PatrickDickey> elvis, when he installed ubuntu, he formatted that partition because he had intended it to be for ubuntu. he didn't know that Windows did this.
[03:09] <danman1453> well, im out for the night
[03:09] <danman1453> goodnight all
[03:09] <elvis4526> PatrickDickey: He tought that this partition was there for fun?
[03:10] <PatrickDickey> No elvis4526. Windows didn't put the bootloader in a hidden partition. It used the partition that he set up for Ubuntu.
[03:10] <WeThePeople> do servers see the lsb_release file??
[03:10] <wols_> WeThePeople: which servers?
[03:10] <elvis4526> Dude. If you install ubuntu after installing Windows, WINDOWS CAN'T TOUCH YOUR UBUNTU PARTITION !!
[03:10] <WeThePeople> wols_, user agent
[03:10] <PatrickDickey> So, when he got to choose partitions, he chose that partition (which is what he intended to do, and should have if Windows did what it should have done), and formatted it. Then set it to /.
[03:11] <wols_> WeThePeople: user agent is no server. carefully think what you want to ask, then start typing in here
[03:11] <WeThePeople> elvis4526, there are programs for windows that can
[03:11] <PatrickDickey> elvis, read what I just said, please. Ubuntu wiped out Window's Bootloader, because Windows used the wrong partition in the beginning.
[03:11] <puff> wols_: Cool.  What are the odds that it will work without creating a nightmare mess?
[03:12] <elvis4526> Dude, don't tell me to read what you say when it's a total no-sense.
[03:12] <wols_> puff: can't say. the first question that pops into my mind is: why are you sure you'd need this package?
[03:12] <puff> dang, md5sum really ought to have a command line option to feed the hash in.
[03:12] <puff> wols_: http://stefanobolli.blogspot.com/2011/05/maya-2012-x64-on-ubuntu-1104.html
[03:12] <kvirge> Does anyone know some type of program with capabilities like the topshelf applet from gnome 2 that works with modern ubuntu/unity
[03:12] <puff> wols_: Because this guy says so :-);.
[03:12] <kvirge> doesn't need to be an applet
[03:12] <puff> wols_: And he's pretty well respected in the maya-on-linux world, apparently.
[03:13] <puff> wols_: According to my maya-using friends.
[03:13] <elvis4526> The problems is that he deleted the system partition that Windows created before. That's it. End of the story, he should have not touch it. But he did, here's the problem.
[03:13] <PatrickDickey> elvis4526: Let me put it like this. He created two partitions. Then started to install Windows. Windows either asked if he wanted to use the second partition for the bootloader, or just did it on it's own (because the partition is there already). Then, he installed ubuntu. Because ubuntu was going where the bootloader is, it wiped out the bootloader.
[03:13] <elvis4526> I did dual-boot for almost 5 years, I never saw something that complicated.
[03:13] <WeThePeople> wols_, idk :)
[03:13] <PatrickDickey> elvis4526: The problem is, Windows created the system partition where he was going to put ubuntu. So, he wiped it out because he didn't know it was there (and it shouldn't have been there).
[03:14] <elvis4526> But why he created the partition before?
[03:14] <elvis4526> It's totally useless.
[03:14] <puff> wols_: Harrum... the md5sums don't match.
[03:14] <PatrickDickey> That's a good question.  Probably because whatever instructions he read told him to set the drive up with the partitions first.
[03:15] <wols_> puff: of what?
[03:15] <puff> wols_: Could that be caused by unzipping/rezipping?
[03:15] <elvis4526> Just delete all partitions, boot into the windows cd, with the freespace available, create one partition for windows, and let windows create the small system partition with the space left and don't touch the free space left inside the windows cd. Boot into the ubuntu cd, install ubuntu with the freespace left and don't touch the already created  partition.
[03:15] <puff> wols_: On the oneiric source packages (e.g. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libxprintutil/1:1.0.1.xsf1-3 )
[03:15] <wols_> puff: explain what you are actually doing before asking
[03:15] <PatrickDickey> Either way, the easiest solution i this case, is to just start over from scratch. And do it right. Create one giant partition for Windows, then let Ubuntu resize that.
[03:16] <elvis4526> Yeah.
[03:16] <alsu> I'm trying to install Ubuntu Server (12.04) on my shiny new machine. it doesn't seem to find the hardware RAID1 setup I have, it only lists the USB stick as a disk I can install on
[03:16] <puff> wols_: Downloading the source tar.gz from that link above, unzipped it, then realzied I really should check the md5sum hash on general principles, so rezipped and ran md5sum, which gave me a result that did not match the hash displayed on that link above.
[03:16] <wols_> alsu: what RAID controller is it exactly?
[03:16] <alsu> wols_:  Intel® ESRT2
[03:16] <wols_> puff: first of all you are not "zipping" anything at all. none
[03:16] <puff> wols_: Re-downloaded the .tar.gz and now the md5sums match, so I guess unzippnig/rezipping does.
[03:16] <PatrickDickey> puff, check the md5sum against the one you downloaded.
[03:17] <wols_> alsu: that's no hardware raid afaik
[03:17] <puff> wols_: "unzipping" - colloquial speech for "running gunzip on the tar.gz file"
[03:17] <alsu> wols_: well, built in to the hardware anyway
[03:17] <wols_> "Intel® Embedded Server RAID Technology II (ESRT2) is host-based RAID that "
[03:17] <wols_> alsu: it's fakeraid as always
[03:17] <wols_> !fakeraid
[03:17] <alsu> wols_: as in has a bios like thingy where I did the RAID1 setupd
[03:17] <wols_> alsu: yes. fakeraid
[03:18] <wols_> puff: use apt-get source
[03:18] <julian_c> The chipset-based "fake" raid is usually the worst option if you are NOT going to dual-boot.
[03:18] <PatrickDickey> puff, as an aside to what you're doing, when you rezipped it (tar or gzip), it created a new md5sum because you were creating a new file. That's why they didn't match. You needed to check against the file you downloaded--not the one you created.
[03:18] <wols_> puff: caues you will need the diff too
[03:20] <puff> PatrickDickey: Yeah, did that.
[03:20] <PatrickDickey> puff, I should have clarified that I was just explaining what happened for future reference. Sorry.
[03:20] <alsu> wols_: this page is not clear. can I not use the ISO I downloaded?
[03:21] <puff> PatrickDickey: Cool, thanks.
[03:21] <puff> I'm unclear on how to apt-get source something from a different release.
[03:23] <wols_> new files don't alter md5sums on their own
[03:23] <elvis4526> anyone have the ubuntu mouse?
[03:23] <elvis4526> Is it cool?
[03:23] <wols_> puff: you put the old release (temporarily) in your sources.list
[03:23] <puff> wols_: Ah, cool.  What do I need the diff for?
[03:23] <wols_> the source repo of it ONLY however
[03:23] <alsu> wols_: the best I can glean from this page is that "The installer will recognize the dmraid devices and allow you to use them normally", which does not seem to be true
[03:23] <wols_> the diff you'd need for the differences ubuntu makes to the original tarball obviously
[03:24] <carambola> Is "youtube-dl" known to currently work?
[03:24] <WeThePeople> yes
[03:24] <wastrel> carambola is a star fruit
[03:24] <wols_> alsu: probably use desktop RAID devices, not embedded. dunno. why would you want to use that fakeraid? are you dualbooting windows?
[03:24] <WeThePeople> download then upgrade
[03:24] <orbisvicis> which package provides perl lwp::simple ?
[03:24] <WeThePeople> update*
[03:24] <orbisvicis> yah in forum thread
[03:24] <alsu> wols_: the motherboard came with this option, I'd like to use raid, and I don't want to go through all the setup in linux for softraid
[03:25] <carambola> I'm trying to figure out why I can't get youtube-dl to work. What port does it use?
[03:25] <alsu> wols_: so, is it your guess that ubuntu doesn't support this?
[03:25] <orbisvicis> anyone see the adapteva quickstart project ?
[03:25] <wols_> alsu: I don't know. use software raid. it's better anyways
[03:25] <alsu> wols_: that's not really related to my question
[03:26] <carambola> Is there any special port I need to leave open on my firewall to use youtube-dl?
[03:26] <wols_> carambola: it's a web client...
[03:27] <carambola> then I can't figure out why it's not working for me. I upgraded to the latest version as of yesterday
[03:28] <wols_> !doesn't work
[03:28] <puff> wols_: Hm, this says I need to add old-releases.ubuntu.com to sources, which I did and then updated, but "sudo apt-get sources libxprintutil1" found nothing.
[03:29] <carambola> It seems to function, but the download(s) fail every time with an error "unable to download"
[03:29] <crimsonmane> wols_: do it again with "| carambola"
[03:29] <indio> Hi. What's Ubuntu's window manager name?
[03:29] <ripthejacker> need help
[03:29] <elvis4526> indio: compiz
[03:30] <elvis4526> by default with unity
[03:30] <ripthejacker> getting the error Wired networks device not managed
[03:30] <starbuck33> hi, i get this message soemtimes using chromeium: "Java(TM) is required to display some elements on this page." so i installed openjdk-7-jre but i still get that message. any suggestions please?
[03:30] <moondoggy> Can someone give me advice about a problem during upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04
[03:30] <moondoggy> >
[03:30] <wols_> starbuck33: you need a java plugin for chromium
[03:31] <starbuck33> wols_, what's the name of the plugin?
[03:31] <WeThePeople> carambola, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXxLjLQi3Fg
[03:31] <ripthejacker> starbuck33: i think its called icedtea
[03:32] <carambola> another "unable to download" error. Not a very descriptive error.
[03:32] <ripthejacker> cannot manage network connection
[03:32] <xangua> !info | starbuck33 icedtea-plugin
[03:32] <puff> Hm, maybe I'll just try installing everything else and see if it works... I don't need printing, after all, and I'm not sure what maya's using these things for.
[03:32] <indio> looks like my unity instance died, i'm stuck in a full screen irc window
[03:32] <xangua> !info icedtea-plugin | starbuck33 ups
[03:32] <ripthejacker> getting the error Wired networks device not managed
[03:33] <ripthejacker> pease help
[03:33] <elvis4526> ripthejacker: lspci -v
[03:33] <starbuck33> thx wols_ , ripthejacker and xangua
[03:33] <plustax> Can anyone help me out? I have a laptop running 12.10 with 8gigs of RAM. For some reason, my computer keeps freezing to the point where I need to reboot. Happens about once a day. Anyone help me out?
[03:33] <plustax> It shouldnt be freezing with 8 gigs of ram
[03:34] <WeThePeople> ripthejacker, what distro
[03:34] <ripthejacker> starbuck33: you are welcome :)
[03:34] <carambola> plustax- if some of that memory wasn't seated in it's socket quite right, it would freeze
[03:34] <WeThePeople> plustax, install cpu monitoring program and check the logs
[03:34] <kunji> ripthejacker: you may have created some manual settings for your interface, check in /etc/network/interfaces   If the interface is configured in there, then the network manager won't be able to manage that interface.
[03:35] <plustax> WeThePeople, which one do you recommend?
[03:35] <indio> unity instance dead, stuck in a full screen irc window... how can I recover from this?
[03:35] <ripthejacker> WeThePeople: ubuntu
[03:36] <WeThePeople> plustax, right click over the panel theres one in there, i sry i cannot recall the programs name..
[03:36] <kunji> WeThePeople: Could you point him to some logs that are likely to contain info, like syslog etc..
[03:36] <ripthejacker> elvis4526: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1882538
[03:36] <indio> I can run commands
[03:36] <ripthejacker> i edited the /etc/network/interfaces ans since i'm having this problem
[03:36] <ripthejacker> *and/ans
[03:37] <kunji> ripthejacker: can you pastebin your interfaces file?
[03:37] <carambola> with some hardware freezes, there will be no log entries afterwards
[03:37] <xangua> indio: control+alt1 and run: sudo service lightdm stop
[03:38] <ripthejacker> kunji: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1882542
[03:38] <indio> xangua: Thanks, but I don't want to loose the processes running in this session...
[03:39] <ripthejacker> kunji: how do i set static ip for eth0 using network manager
[03:39] <indio> (ubuntu upgrade running)
[03:40] <WeThePeople> ripthejacker, justa thought does it work when you remove.. auto eth0
[03:40] <WeThePeople> iface eth0 inet static
[03:40] <WeThePeople> address 10.20.63.173
[03:40] <WeThePeople> netmask 255.0.0.0, and leave loopback there ??
[03:40] <WeThePeople> oops
[03:41] <elvis4526> ripthejacker: did you try the r8169 driver?
[03:41] <ripthejacker> WeThePeople: you mean from the interfaces file?
[03:41] <ripthejacker> elvis4526: no i replaced it with r8168 because it was giving me too much troubles
[03:41] <kunji> ripthejacker: Yeah, you have configured eth0 in there, so the network manager cannot manage it, get rid of everything after the line "iface lo inet loopback"
[03:42] <WeThePeople> ripthejacker, yes
[03:42] <elvis4526> rip
[03:42] <ripthejacker> kunji: can you help me setup static ip with NM?
[03:42] <ripthejacker> elvis4526: yes?
[03:42] <elvis4526> ripthejacker: ok. Then, follow kunji advices.
[03:42] <elvis4526> Sorry it was a failed tab completition :p
[03:43] <ripthejacker> elvis4526:lol kk. So having 8169 i can manage using both interfaces and nwtwork manager?
[03:44] <elvis4526> the driver does not change what utility you uses to configure internet.
[03:44] <kunji> ripthejacker: Using the network manager you can set a static ip, go to edit connections, select the wired connection, click edit, go to the ipv4 Setting tab and change the method from Automatic (DHCP) to Manual, then click Add, and put in the relevant information.  After doing all this, you might need to restart your networking, and if that doesn't work try logging out and back in.
[03:45] <Nautilus> I use FTP to transfer files from my windows box to Ubuntu, both are local, and wonder if there's an "easier" way.  BTW, one nice thing FTP gives me is automatic EOL conversion.
[03:45] <wols_> Nautilus: samba share
[03:45] <veryhappy> hi guys, need urgent help, my computer switches completely off while he tries to launch netbeans and that every time i try to launch that program, please help, what can i do against that?
[03:45] <ripthejacker> kunji: can you help?
[03:46] <oseas-mota> msg NickServ register <oseas250> <oseasbmota@gmail.com>
[03:46] <kunji> ripthejacker: Did you try what I suggested?
[03:46] <veryhappy> oseas-mota: you forgot the slash /
[03:46] <BusyBoxes> ... oseas.
[03:47] <kunji> ripthejacker: I've given what advice I can, beyond that and it's probably out of my league -_-
[03:47] <veryhappy> oseas-mota: add the slash at the beginning of the string
[03:47] <oseas-mota> problem
[03:47] <Nautilus> wols_: sounds a little like a pain to setup <g>.  Also, would that do EOL conversions?
[03:47] <elvis4526> ripthejacker: You want to configure manual ip with networkmanager?
[03:47] <oseas-mota> ok, veryhappy
[03:47] <ripthejacker> kunji: yes i removed the entry from interfaces
[03:47] <ripthejacker> elvis4526: yes
[03:47] <BusyBoxes> oseas-mota: Change your gmail password please.
[03:48] <kunji> ripthejacker: and made the changes in the network manager?
[03:48] <elvis4526> ripthejacker:  Right click on networkmanager
[03:48] <ripthejacker> kunji: what changes?
[03:48] <excalibr> Is there anyone currently using ubuntu on intel atom netbook right now? Does lscpu command crash with "floating point exception error" for you as well?
[03:48] <kunji> ripthejacker: Using the network manager you can set a static ip, go to edit connections, select the wired connection, click edit, go to the ipv4 Setting tab and change the method from Automatic (DHCP) to Manual, then click Add, and put in the relevant information.  After doing all this, you might need to restart your networking, and if that doesn't work try logging out and back in.
[03:48] <elvis4526> then you should have "modify connections" or something like that. Sorry my locale is in French.
[03:49] <crimsonmane> aren't all netbooks intel atom ?
[03:49] <kunji> ripthejacker: I sent that a little bit ago, I guess you missed it
[03:49] <kunji> crimsonmane: not strictly
[03:49] <excalibr> crimsonmane: mostly :D
[03:49] <ripthejacker> yes accidently logged out of channel
[03:49] <wols_> Nautilus: it is not a pain and it doesn't do EOL conversions. it's a network share just like in windows
[03:49] <moondoggy> I'm freaking out during upgrade.  Got a dialog box with the font all screwed up, so I don't know what it's asking.
[03:49] <elvis4526> ripthejacker: then you click on wired connection, then Add and in IPV4 (or IPV6) you can set your IP.
[03:49] <moondoggy> Anyone want to take a look?
[03:50] <Nautilus> excalibr: I have an Atom micro-ATX board and the command worked on 12.04
[03:50] <wols_> Nautilus: you can access windows network shares from ubuntu and windows can access samba shares on ubuntu
[03:50] <elvis4526> moondoggy: take a look at what?
[03:50] <ripthejacker> kunji: i tried that but the connection does not come automatically and when i start it manually my internet connection goes down
[03:50] <moondoggy> elvis4526, I have a png screenshot, if you want to look at it.
[03:50] <moondoggy> Can I send files in irc?
[03:50] <wols_> moondoggy: you can
[03:51] <wols_> but use a image sharing site instead
[03:51] <Nautilus> wols_: I gotcha. I think I set that up once years ago... maybe was trickier back then.  But I like the EOL conversions FTP gives me (most of the time)
[03:51] <elvis4526> moondoggy: Do you have an image viewer installed?
[03:51] <moondoggy> I took a snapshot as a png.
[03:51] <moondoggy> I can open it, sure.
[03:51] <excalibr> Nautilus: how many cpu it reports on your atom system?
[03:51] <ripthejacker> elvis4526: and do i add anything in the routes?
[03:52] <kunji> ripthejacker: It should come automatically, but the device handing out ips also needs to be configured to give out your comp that static address, so if you're trying this with a consumer ISP (not a business plan), then it probably won't work.
[03:52] <elvis4526> moondoggy: upload like to imageshack
[03:52] <Nautilus> excalibr: 4, and this is an early system
[03:52] <Nautilus> excalibr: 2 cores, 2 threads per core
[03:52] <kunji> ripthejacker: also, as I said, you might need to log out and back in, maybe even a reboot, though I doubt that.
[03:52] <moondoggy> elvis4526, Um...  Is there some place I can put it, maybe dropbox?
[03:53] <moondoggy> I don't know imageshack
[03:53] <ripthejacker> kunji: thanks ill try and let you know
[03:53] <elvis4526> moondoggy: upload the png there: imageshack.us
[03:53] <moondoggy> There's no way to do it in irc?
[03:54] <kunji> moondoggy: not really, there is some paste image site that is being used, but I forget the url
[03:54] <crimsonmane> post it for everyone. that's the rules.
[03:54] <crimsonmane> imagebin.org
[03:54] <Nautilus> it looks like I can't FTP into my machine, though I do have an "ftp" command that works at the command line.  I gather the former is a client and 12.04 doesn't come with a server by default?  What is a small & solid one?  vsftpd?
[03:55] <moondoggy> elvis4526, I am on imageshack...  one minute...
[03:55] <elvis4526> moondoggy: okay
[03:55] <wols_> Nautilus: yes, vsftpd is a good choice
[03:56] <Nautilus> wols_: ok.  Oops, I meant "the later is a client" in the above.
[03:56] <wastrel> Nautilus: vsftpd seems to be popular
[03:56] <tom_> Hey i'm new to ubuntu, is someone willing to help me get my wireless card working in a private chat or something?
[03:56] <moondoggy> elvis4526, here it is:  http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/521/brokendialog.png/
[03:57] <moondoggy> It's still running the upgrade, but I don't know what to click when it halts!
[03:58] <elvis4526> moondoggy: lol, wtf
[03:58] <moondoggy> elvis4526, exactly!
[03:58] <elvis4526> moondoggy: What did you do with the dialog?
[03:58] <moondoggy> I haven't clicked yet.
[03:58] <elvis4526> Does the upgrade wait for you to answer something?
[03:59] <elvis4526> or the upgrade continued?
[03:59] <moondoggy> It's still doing the upgrade...
[03:59] <Nautilus> wols_: I have vsftpd installed.  I think I did this for my previous box (that was 8.04 upgraded to 10.04, this is a clean install of 12.04).  IIRC it makes a default folder somewhere... any idea where? Not seeing it.
[03:59] <moondoggy> I'm assuming it will stop at some point, and i'll have to click one or the other button.
[03:59] <kunji> Hmm, I'm gonna ask the forbidden question: so... how to dualboot Windows 8 with an existing Ubuntu installation?  I'm aware that generally the best way is to do it the other way around, the windows, then the Ubuntu, but I really don't want to loose access to the Ubuntu side right now.  I know how to go about reinstalling GRUB, but I have some particular configuration on this GRUB install that I don't want to loose (partially because I don't
[03:59] <elvis4526> moondoggy: Keep the screenshot and do a bug report.
[03:59] <elvis4526> It's 10.04?
[04:00] <kunji> moondoggy: I couldn't say for sure, but I think the second option is probably "OK"
[04:00] <moondoggy> I will do that.
[04:00] <moondoggy> Yes, from 10.04 to...  crap... didn't pay attention... to the default next upgrade.
[04:00] <moondoggy> Guh.  I suck.
[04:00] <moondoggy> kunji, Yes, looks like OK.
[04:00] <elvis4526> oh, to 12.04 or 12.10?
[04:00] <frustro> so I run all ubuntu at home, got box on a 50" and 5.1 and another box on a 42" and 5.1, I got this chick here with a mac and she''s all like "well at my house I can connect to MY tv and other computer and play music"  What is this devilry and how to I make this happen please?
[04:01] <moondoggy> elvis4526, I'm not sure.  I did the default upgrade command.
[04:01] <moondoggy> Hang on...
[04:01] <kunji> frustro: that's awesome ^_^
[04:01] <elvis4526> oh okay, you can't change version with apt-get upgrade
[04:01] <elvis4526> you are still on 10.04
[04:01] <elvis4526> if you did dist-upgrade, it would be totally different.
[04:02] <moondoggy> No, not apt-get.
[04:02] <heikovanderheiko> I just did some research into what graphics card to buy. I'm a little confused. is this correct: I either want a nvdia card with the binary driver blob or an amd card with the open source driver
[04:02] <wols_> Nautilus: you log on as your user and you are in your home directory. no special directories except for anonymous possibly. if you even have that enabled
[04:02] <elvis4526> moondoggy: What did you use?
[04:02] <elvis4526> I saw console in your screenshot.
[04:02] <moondoggy> It was...  Guh... some IT guy told me what to type.  The history command isn't working at this point.
[04:02] <frustro> kunji, I agree, but have no idea what to look for as a solution, I mean, I've stream to my xbox, but from a mac to my ubuntu? never.
[04:03] <Nautilus> wols_: I see my client is trying to connect as my user, but I get "530 This FTP server is anonymous only", but I suspect I can google for the info on changing that.
[04:03] <moondoggy> Either 12.10 or 12.04 LTS.  I think the graphical software update suggested 12.04LTS, so it's probably that.
[04:03] <wols_> Nautilus: edit your /etc/vsftpd.conf
[04:03] <kunji> heikovanderheiko: pretty much, personally I think the nvidia praise is a bit dated, I personally haven't had a great experience with their proprietary drivers.  But then again, I only own one nvidia card.
[04:04] <elvis4526> moondoggy: you upgraded graphically or in console?
[04:04] <moondoggy> In terminal.
[04:04] <elvis4526> you used apt-get then.
[04:04] <elvis4526> what else it could be?
[04:04] <moondoggy> I just can't recall the command.  I'm going to the next major version number, 12.something.
[04:04] <moondoggy> Probably apt-get.
[04:04] <kunji> frustro: Hmm, stream from mac to ubuntu?  I forget, does mediatomb have a mac version?
[04:04] <elvis4526> check ur .bash_history
[04:06] <moondoggy> elvis4526, it's not in the history file, probably because I'm doing the upgrade now?
[04:06] <elvis4526> maybe
[04:07] <elvis4526> is it still running?
[04:07] <frustro> kunji, I have friends with home stereos that are on net and they just show up as a network device they can stream to.  Looking for a media server I suppose that broadcasts stuff the mac wants to see.
[04:08] <Nautilus> wols_: yep, i found that and have a couple others to change
[04:08] <frustro> er, that the mac can see to broadcast too.
[04:08] <sk1special> anyone know how i can make the launcher go away while im in full screen watching a movie?
[04:08] <moondoggy> elvis4526, still running.
[04:08] <moondoggy> I tried history as superuser and similar.
[04:08] <sk1special> the movie goes full screen and all..but it plays behind the launcher/underneath it whatever
[04:08] <moondoggy> It's not in any history I can find.
[04:08] <alkisg> Hi, when will quantal docs be included in manpages.ubuntu.com?
[04:09] <moondoggy> Crikey.
[04:09] <elvis4526> sk1special: what are u using as a videoplayer?
[04:09] <moondoggy> Ok, maybe I should just wait and assume one of the buttons isn't "self-destruct."
[04:09] <elvis4526> moondoggy: Yes, just do the lower button.
[04:09] <sk1special> elvis4526, ah putlocker thru 1channel. flash player
[04:10] <kunji> frustro: oh... that feels backwards to me, do you know what they use for that?  Zeroconf, or airplay, or ... I don't know, I'm not too familiar with macland
[04:10] <wastrel> sk1special: i made an icon for my launcher that hides it
[04:10] <moondoggy> Ok, eenie, meenie...
[04:10] <heikovanderheiko> kunji: thanks
[04:10] <wastrel> sk1special: sec i'll post info about it
[04:10] <Nautilus> wols_: all done, thanks!
[04:10] <elvis4526> wastrel: I'm curious too.
[04:11] <sk1special> wastrel, ah mmk. ty ty
[04:11] <moondoggy> elvis4526, thanks.  I'll let you know when you have to rebuild my machine.  Later.
[04:12] <ripthejacker> kunji: only once connection stays at a time, either eth0 or my internet connection
[04:12] <kunji> heikovanderheiko: np, oh, also though, I believe 12.10 breaks the amd driver for a pretty large number of older, but not ancient cards.  So I think you're supposed to use the legacy driver now or something, it's something to keep in mind, it's because of the update to X
[04:13] <elvis4526> moondoggy: Okay lol
[04:13] <kunji> ripthejacker: you mean eth0 or your wireless connection?
[04:13] <kunji> ripthejacker: or something else? , not exactly sure what you mean.
[04:13] <ripthejacker> its not wireless its a wired connection
[04:14] <ripthejacker> shall i give you an imagebin of nm?
[04:15] <kunji> ripthejacker: umm, it's probably not needed.  I'm just not sure what you mean.  Do you mean eth0 will connect, but you don't have internet?  And if so, then what are you doing differently when you do have internet?
[04:16] <moondoggy> elvis4526, how freakin' long does an upgrade take?
[04:17] <wastrel> sk1special: elvis4526 http://paste.ubuntu.com/1308753/
[04:17] <ripthejacker> kunji: please have a look at it
[04:17] <ripthejacker> http://imagebin.org/233398
[04:18] <elvis4526> moondoggy: depend on your internet configuration and your pc
[04:18] <kunji> moondoggy: I've had them take up to five hours or so, they're much longer than doing a clean install.  I've also had them less than an hour though.
[04:18] <elvis4526> and on the number of packages that needs to be updated.
[04:19] <kunji> ripthejacker: umm, the connection is called Pacenet.. hmm, are you sure whoever is running the network is giving you a static ip?
[04:19] <moondoggy> elvis4526, kunji Ok.  I'll go to bed.  If I stop thinking about that dialog, maybe it will just go away.
[04:19] <elvis4526> moondoggy: maybe ;)
[04:20] <elvis4526> good night!
[04:20] <ripthejacker> kunji: i want a static ip not from my isp but in my LAN
[04:20] <ravi_> . join #fsmk
[04:20] <kunji> ripthejacker: Ah, ok, so you're sure your router is configured to give it?
[04:20] <ripthejacker> kunji: oh i forgot to tell, i use cable modem internet
[04:20] <sk1special> wastrel, mmk. i shall try it out. ty ty.  // one more cheap thing. how do i make peoples name red when im talking to them ?
[04:21] <sk1special> does me doing the was*tab* auto complete thing do it?
[04:22] <wastrel> sk1special: highlighting depends on the irc clinet but usually they're configured so it hilights with the name yes
[04:22] <ripthejacker> kunji: i usually set up static ip as: ifconfig eth0 10.20.x.x 255.0.0.0
[04:22] <ripthejacker> kunji: i want to have this at startup and automatically
[04:22] <sk1special> wastrel, so this message is highlighted for you?
[04:23] <wastrel> sk1special: yes
[04:23] <chilili> Is XFCE or LXDE Better for a shitty 10 year old computer?
[04:23] <steven-> chilili, compared to kde/gnome/unity, yes
[04:24] <chilili> Well, I'm choosing between the two. Which is more lightweight?
[04:24] <Karlo_> sk1special, it's receiver-side highlighting, not sender-side.
[04:24] <kunji> ripthejacker: Then the modem is giving you an ip right?  That ip is typically not static, but you can often get away with setting it to whatever they gave you via DHCP until the next time it changes.  It's possible that the GUI way isn't working out.  So you could add it back to the interfaces file, and it should work out as you said, but it will not be manageable by the network manager.
[04:24] <elvis4526> chilili: lxde is lighter then xfce
[04:24] <chilili> Ty elvis
[04:25] <sk1special> wastrel, mmk ty.
[04:25] <steven-> does fvwm still exists?
[04:25] <sk1special> Kardos, nah i get what hes saying i just wanted to know what i had to do to make your side do what i wanted it to do.
[04:25] <kunji> elvis4526: I thought the difference was pretty negligible the last I heard, but I like LXDE much better anyway.
[04:25] <sk1special> also. sall sells sea shells
[04:25] <sk1special> y* sleep now
[04:26] <steven-> kunji, if you need something really light you might try something like fluxbox as well
[04:26] <Karlo_> sk1special, the answer is "nothing"
[04:27] <kunji> steven-: I'm actually not looking for something light, chilili was.  Yeah I've seen fluxbox and AWM, etc...
[04:27] <steven-> ah ofc, sorry that was my mistake
[04:27] <kunji> np
[04:28] <Avinash> can anyone help me with this :http://pastebin.com/Ur7Rtkqr
[04:29] <steven-> oh, the last stable release of fvwm-crystal was 2008
[04:30] <steven-> Avinash, try sudo -s first
[04:30] <steven-> so you are the actually root user
[04:30] <steven-> and then run the script again
[04:30] <Avinash> ok
[04:31] <dbv> Where should I ask a question on iptables. I got something that worked on Lucid but doesn't on Precise
[04:32] <WeThePeople> does java se developers kit com with Lucid
[04:32] <kunji> dbv: hmm, sounds like this is the place to ask then, though I haven't got an answer for that :P
[04:32] <Avinash> steven_, I tried it : but no use :(
[04:32] <Avinash> root@Avinash:~/Desktop/0ad/build/workspaces# ./update-workspaces.sh
[04:32] <Avinash> bash: ./update-workspaces.sh: Permission denied
[04:32] <hallofick> you use sudo
[04:33] <steven-> he does not have to use sudo since he is root user
[04:33] <steven-> thats why it says "root@.."
[04:33] <hallofick> sudo ./update-workspace.sh
[04:33] <hallofick> you try that
[04:33] <kunji> Avinash: I have no idea what you're trying to do, but it sounds like a permissions issue.  Does this app run as it's own user?  If that is the case, the user it runs as may not have the right permissions.
[04:33] <steven-> ls -l | grep update-workspaces.sh
[04:33] <steven-> check the permission
[04:34] <dbv> avinash: chmod +x update-workspaces.sh build.sh
[04:34] <steven-> chmod +x update-workspaces.sh
[04:34] <steven-> and run as after it
[04:34] <opticlove> so i've got a quick question. i've got a usb network card and if i use the drivers for it (rtl8187) will it overwrite my internal NIC (ath9k). linux wireless drivers are so messy.
[04:34] <steven-> dbv, just a second faster : )
[04:34] <dbv> iptables question: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1308777/
[04:34] <dbv> steven-: upgraded my DSL just last month? :)
[04:35] <steven-> hallofick, you don't need sudo if you are logged in as root
[04:35] <steven-> dbv, i can tell, your bytes are just faster
[04:35] <dbv> lol
[04:36] <steven-> Avinash, does your script finally work?
[04:37] <hallofick> sorry i am noob i want learn more ubuntu
[04:37] <dbv> we're all n00bs, to some degree or another...
[04:37] <steven-> sudo = SuperUser do -> it basically says that a user can run this very command as root user
[04:37] <hallofick> dbv: <3
[04:38] <steven-> the problem was that he run a script with sudo, but this script invoke another script which needed root rights as well
[04:38] <steven-> or it was just not executable^^
[04:38] <dbv> the other script was also missing +x, he's gone so I don't know what to think...
[04:38] <steven-> i could have told you that faster, but since dbv upgraded his internet access his bytes are just faster
[04:38] <Karlo_> If sudo makes you root, it should run the subscript as root, too.
[04:39] <raj_arasanal> hello everyone... these join and leave messages clutter the chat... is thre a way to filter them out... like ignore messages containing some custom words...
[04:39] <steven-> Karlo_, is that so? i *sometimes* run into the same problem
[04:39] <dbv> Karlo_: it would, correct, it's just the +x was missing
[04:39] <steven-> thats why i always use sudo -s
[04:39] <Karlo_> raj_arasanal, I'm using a client that can filter them out, but I don't know how it would be done on whatever client you're using.
[04:40] <dbv> steven-: went from 5 meg to 10 meg DSL, oooh, the speed...
[04:40] <raj_arasanal> i see... i am using xchat ... will have to try that out thanks
[04:40] <steven-> dbv, i guess you are closer to the irc then, cos i have 20
[04:40] <Set_> I'm running A ubuntu live cd 12.10,HDMI audio dosn't work(have it hooked up via ati radeon hd 7570) I read somewhere there was a solution for this,but it involves editing grub and rebooting which on a live cd doesn't work...anyone here have a solution?
[04:41] <ex0a> Set_: you should still be able to modify the boot options on the live cd by hitting 'e' i believe
[04:41] <steven-> dbv, i have to be at least twice as far away from the IRC since your bytes arrive faster
[04:42] <Set_> ex0 so reboot then hit e before it loads up?
[04:42] <WeThePeople> set_, if you want to use a live cd backtrack is more likely to work than a live cd of 12.10
[04:42] <Set_> I just want to make sure HDMI audio works before installing ubuntu
[04:42] <ex0a> Set_: yes, it should say at the bottom what keys you can press at the ubuntu menu
[04:42] <dbv> for anyone interested, x-chat has an 'hide join/part messages' option in chatting->general
[04:42] <steven-> dbv, seriously, thank you XD
[04:43] <steven-> that was p.. me off so badly xD
[04:43] <dbv> steven-: i doubt that i'm closer :)
[04:43] <dbv> anyone know any iptables with 3.2 kernel?
[04:43] <dbv> it's iptables that's pissing me off
[04:44] <dbv> steven-: np ;)
[04:44] <ex0a> dbv: what's the issue?
[04:44] <dbv> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1308777/
[04:44] <steven-> dbv, can't see it, the only ones i have are announce away messages, show away once, and automaticall unmark away
[04:44] <dbv> this is x-chat on os x
[04:44] <dbv> that i'm using
[04:45] <steven-> oh i see..
[04:45] <dbv> it's in prefs, chatting->general, to the right
[04:45] <steven-> i am on linux
[04:45] <steven-> hackintosh didn't work out on me
[04:45] <dbv> it can't be too different on linux
[04:45] <Karlo_> Somehow I managed to get my system into a worse configuration than before.  Previously, an attempted boot would give me an error message and then I could drop into a maintenance shell (runlevel 1).  Now, I'm getting "ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid/blahblah does not exist. Dropping to a shell!", and I get the build-in shell "ash", with prompt "(initramfs)".  What do I need to fix?
[04:46] <steven-> dbv, http://screencloud.net/v/t3da
[04:47] <dbv> Karlo_: look into /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[04:49] <dbv> steven-: http://postimage.org/image/756knw4f9/
[04:50] <steven-> how come OSX has more options -.-
[04:50] <dbv> weird
[04:50] <dbv> it's built from same sources
[04:50] <steven-> makes me missing my macbook
[04:50] <Karlo_> ls: /boot: No such file or directory
[04:51] <Karlo_> Guess the root fs isn't mounted at all right now
[04:51] <dbv> Karlo_: no, that's why it's dropping you into ramfs
[04:52] <dbv> Karlo_: i think grub needs to be able to find / and it can't
[04:52] <somethinginteres> I've setup a shortcut to start a gnome-terminal and a specific script. It doesn't seem to be working regardless of key combo. Ideas?
[04:53] <steven-> dbv, you can change it in linux as well
[04:54] <dbv> oh?
[04:54] <steven->  its a command though
[04:54] <dbv> sweet
[04:54] <steven->  / set irc_conf_mode on
[04:54] <steven->  / gui apply
[04:54] <Karlo_> There we go.  For some reason my first attempt to create a directory and mount it there wasn't working.
[04:54] <steven-> i have no clue how this is in any kind related to join messages, but after i ran it, it was changed
[04:54] <steven-> -.-
[04:55] <dbv> http://toxin.jottit.com/xchat_set_variables#irc_conf_mode
[04:55] <dbv> that'll work
[04:55] <wastrel> somethinginteres: unity?
[04:56] <steven-> still stupid that they really disabled those settings for linux
[04:56] <p0rk> I had filled my HDD and a overflow was mounted to /tmp that wasn't there before
[04:56] <steven-> in gui i mean
[04:56] <p0rk> I've cleared 50% of my drive, how can I get rid of the overflow now?
[04:57] <dbv> steven-: it's the same thing, if you can put it in as one of the startup commands
[04:57] <somethinginteres> wastrel: got it to work I wasn't starting the script properly. Should've used the -x arg
[04:57] <dbv> steven-: x-chat aqua doesn't seem to be updated any more anyway...
[04:57] <wastrel> you did a good job
[04:58] <steven-> oh its not an official port ?
[04:58] <dbv> steven-: and colloquy sucks
[04:58] <steven-> i used colloquy when i had a mac
[04:58] <dbv> steven-: it's built from same sources but maybe not by the same guys
[04:58] <Karlo_> OK, so now that I have it mounted, /boot/grub/ exists, but does not contain a file named grub.cfg
[04:58] <steven-> i liked colloquy actually
[04:59] <p0rk> Can I unmount my /tmp overflow?
[04:59] <dbv> steven-: you didn't mind it?
[04:59] <p0rk> It was created when I filled my HDD
[04:59] <dbv> Karlo_: which Ubuntu?
[04:59] <steven-> and no it seems like its a different guy, since the xchat website only offers linux and windows downloads
[04:59] <steven-> dbv, no, actually not, on mac i was using colloquy instead of xchat
[04:59] <Karlo_> I was in the process of upgrading from 10.04 to 12.04, but it seems that 10.04 is still what's installed.
[05:00] <dbv> Karlo_: ouch, do you have a backup?
[05:00] <Karlo_> No, but I'm OK with installing 12.04.1 from scratch, if I can find a way to actually do it.
[05:00] <steven-> its been a while though, idk how colloquy is on nowadays
[05:01] <wastrel> people use adium now in os x i think
[05:01] <steven-> adium is IM
[05:01] <wastrel> oh
[05:01] <dbv> steven-: i can't get the log to print anything useful, it's annoying. but then again i only tried it for about 60 secs and went back to x-chat
[05:01] <steven-> i liked adium as well, best part-> rightclick on the tray icon opens the contact list as a tab list
[05:01] <steven-> i really need such a feature on any linux im
[05:02] <wastrel> what does it mean tab list
[05:02] <steven-> wait
[05:02] <dbv> Karlo_: what's the problem with installing from scratch? Pop in the CD and away you go.
[05:03] <usr13> wastrel: like /who ?
[05:03] <kunji> dbv: that shouldn't be necessary, a clean install of grub2 though is probably easier than fixing one that's not working
[05:03] <Karlo_> The system seems to not have a CD driver, and the bios doesn't think that any removable media exist other than floppy.  I've obtained an executable called "unetbootin-linux-581" from http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ and the iso image file "ubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-i386.iso", but the program wants to run under X, and it complains about not being able to open the display.
[05:03] <steven-> wastrel, like this: http://adium.im/blog/uploaded_images/statusItem2-723938.png
[05:03] <dbv> kunji: that's what we're talking about, clean install
[05:04] <steven-> you right click it, and instead of a new window, the contact list pops up like this, like a menu if u wanna say so
[05:04] <kunji> dbv: I meant just a clean install of Grub2, not the entire OS
[05:04] <steven-> its nothing big, but i really liked it, and neither, windows nor linux has an IP with that so called feature
[05:04] <wastrel> steven-: doesn't pidgin do that
[05:04] <steven-> no
[05:04] <dbv> kunji: i don't know how much the machine is messed up, i wouldn't take chances, that's all
[05:04] <steven-> pidgin and empathy opens a contact list window
[05:05] <wastrel> oh
[05:05] <wastrel> yes they do
[05:05] <steven-> like i said, its nothing big, but i just liked it, its neat
[05:05] <wastrel> :[
[05:06] <steven-> but adium lost popularity since its not in the mac app store because of a license conflict
[05:06] <kunji> Karlo_: How did you get something on there in the first place?
[05:06] <steven-> and then my macbook pro died anyway-.-
[05:06] <dbv> Karlo_: what's the machine? See this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/WithFloppies
[05:06] <wastrel> pidgin used to be called gaim
[05:07] <steven-> i know
[05:07] <steven-> used linux before i got a mac
[05:07] <steven-> and now i am back on linux
[05:07] <steven-> never actually used/liked windows
[05:07] <dbv> Karlo_: another link: http://pomeroy.me/content/install-ubuntu-floppy-network-no-cdrom
[05:08] <dbv> why did you ditch the mac? I went linux->mac (mostly)
[05:09] <steven-> i didn't really ditch it
[05:09] <steven-> my mbp died and didn't want to spend $2600 for a new one
[05:09] <dbv> they're fixable
[05:09] <steven-> so i was like "well lets get a thinkpad and hackintosh it.."
[05:09] <kunji> Karlo_: oh... damn, not sure how you should get it on there then.  I'm too young for floppies, I've used them, but never to install anything like an OS, just for moving around files back in the day.  You would need another machine and setup etc... but you could try network booting to fix it if the bios supports that.
[05:09] <steven-> well i guess you can tell, that didn't work out well xD
[05:10] <dbv> hackintosh is a bag of pain
[05:10] <steven-> mine wasn't it was the 0
[05:10] <steven-> logicboard failed
[05:11] <dbv> i disassembled my old mbp, popped out the board in the process
[05:11] <dbv> ~2 hr
[05:11] <steven-> apple said it'd be $1000 to get a replacement since it was to old
[05:11] <dbv> nah, ebay
[05:11] <dbv> don't buy anything from apple other than new hardware or software
[05:11] <steven-> i don't feel comfortable to get used mainboards
[05:11] <dbv> oh
[05:11] <dbv> viruses? rootkits?
[05:11] <steven-> no, just the fact that it's used
[05:12] <dbv> oh, i had a friend of mine fix her mbp over ebay
[05:12] <steven-> and i guess u agree with me that nobody actually just sells a perfectly working logical board  on ebay
[05:12] <kunji> Yeah, can always clear out a virus or rootkit... unless the physically messed with the board.
[05:12] <dbv> video card died, she sent it out (via ebay) for repair, they fixed it, $100
[05:12] <steven-> you replace RAM, and your super drive, but not your mainboard
[05:12] <steven-> xD
[05:13] <steven-> either way, its to late now anyway
[05:13] <steven-> it died like 2 years ago
[05:13] <SixtyFold> you dont replace RAM anymore
[05:13] <SixtyFold> weee apple
[05:13] <kunji> lols
[05:13] <dbv> yes, that sucks big time, the new mbp is shite
[05:13] <SixtyFold> and you dont have a superdrive, unless you special order it
[05:13] <SixtyFold> weee apple
[05:13] <steven-> ok, nice talking guys, i gotta pick up my woman now
[05:13] <dbv> laterz man
[05:13] <steven-> have a nice evening, bye
[05:14] <SixtyFold> wb? haha
[05:15] <dbv> i guess no iptables experts in the audience tonight?
[05:15] <Karlo_> Huh.  I have no idea what changed, but this time, I got to the maintenance shell.
[05:16] <dbv> Karlo_: yay!
[05:16] <kunji> dbv: apparently not, sorry, I could use one myself.  My iptables configs have a tendency to revert on their own...
[05:18] <ex0a> dbv: sorry little one stole my attention, looking at your paste now
[05:18] <usr13> dbv: kunji What do you need?
[05:19] <dbv> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1308777/
[05:19] <dbv> that used to work with 10.04, not any more with 12.04, kernel change...
[05:20] <ex0a> hmm
[05:20] <usr13> dbv: What exactly are you trying to do?
[05:21] <dbv> usr13: transparent redirect to squid
[05:23] <ripthejacker> ?
[05:23] <usr13> dbv: So you're trying to redirect everything for port 80 on your LAN to port 3128 ?
[05:23] <dbv> usr13: yes, everything going out
[05:23] <ex0a> dbv: that's odd, i don't see anything obviously wrong with it
[05:23] <dbv> ex0a: me neither
[05:24] <dbv> ex0a: it worked before do-release-upgrade
[05:24] <kunji> usr13: sorry, got distracted.  You mean with regard to iptables?  It just tends to revert on it's own while the comp is just idleing (i.e. I'm not rebooting or anything, the computer is just sitting there).  When I have asked in the past I have been told to read the manual, but I can't find anything about this in the manual -_-
[05:25] <dbv> kunji: what's reverting?
[05:26] <kunji> dbv: the entire configuration seems to change back to some default one.
[05:26] <ex0a> dbv: what about trying 80 instead of http for --dport? maybe it's choking on that and causing the following portion to return invalid
[05:26] <p0rk> grrr
[05:26] <p0rk> when i use -a, it copies symlinks
[05:27] <dbv> kunji: are you using a particular firewall? did you check the logs?
[05:27] <p0rk> how can i verify its only copy the symlink and not the files too
[05:27] <dbv> ex0a: same thing, same error message
[05:27] <p0rk> woops, wrong channel
[05:27] <dbv> kunji: if something is messing with iptables, there's bound to be something in the logs
[05:29] <kunji> dbv: I checked the logs, they don't show anything about it, and I'm not running any of the firewall programs (i.e. ufw).  I've been through those possibilities -_-, so I've pretty much just given up on it, barring some special revelation that people maybe wanted me to figure out from the man pages...
[05:29] <usr13> dbv: Using intrapositioned negation (`--option ! this`) is deprecated in favor of extrapositioned (`! --option this`)
[05:30] <dbv> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1308837/
[05:30] <dbv> i'm not even using -n
[05:30] <dbv> kunji: so you got your own iptables rules, right?
[05:31] <dbv> kunji: and when you do sudo iptables -L, they're gone after a while?
[05:31] <p0rk> does /tmp reset/resize itself on reboot?
[05:31] <kunji> dbv: yeah, I've saved them, so I just need to run the restore when they rever, so it's just obnoxious, but not debilitating for me
[05:31] <kunji> *revert
[05:32] <kunji> dbv: yeah, they disappear after a while, it's hard to debug though, because that while varies from a few minutes to a few weeks.
[05:32] <dbv> kunji: well, something is reverting them
[05:32] <ex0a> dbv: try purging and reinstalling iptables.. i'm wondering if something isn't corrupt
[05:33] <pgdac> How to detect trojans installed in linux?
[05:33] <foad_> hi
[05:33] <dbv> pgdac: RKHunter, CHKRootKit, clamav, tiger psad
[05:34] <dbv> ex0a: i'm wondering the same
[05:34] <pgdac> dbv: Thanks !
[05:34] <kunji> dbv: hmm, I might try ex0a's suggestion for you :P  I just haven't been able to detect anything changing it, so I was thinking it was something changing it internal to iptables.
[05:34] <usr13> dbv: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/TransparentProxy-6.html
[05:36] <twistedpolygon> join me for comedy http://synchtu.be/LJdG
[05:37] <dbv> usr13: squid is on the same box where that command is being run
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> !security | pgdac
[05:37] <foad_> از ایران کسی هست ؟
[05:38] <dbv> ok, my squid problem isn't really critical, it'll try reinstalling iptables, maybe even a reboot :0
[05:39] <kunji> foad_: sorry, this is English only
[05:40] <dbv> laterz guys, thanks for your help
[05:40] <foad_> ok bro
[05:40] <marcus> any1 know what to do, when 3x asio.dll is running after only commanding 1 to run? :{
[05:41] <_dd> guys i need some help
[05:42] <_dd> i have two partitions mounted at / for some reason
[05:43] <marcus> try command umount :{
[05:43] <marcus> dont crash system, im noob:{
[05:43] <_dd> but mount -l only shows one of them
[05:43] <_dd> whereas gparted shows both as mounted
[05:44] <marcus> sounds hard :{ good luck
[05:44] <_dd> thing is i made a backup of my root partition before i moved it
[05:44] <theancientgoat> Hi guys, I cannot login to my user account. It is on a btrfs partition, and whenever I try to login from lightdm it either drops me back on lightdm or gives me a black screen that says "scanning for btrfs partition"
[05:44] <pepee> _dd, type parted -l in a terminal
[05:44] <theancientgoat> if I login via tty, it says that there is no home directory, using / as home
[05:45] <kunji> _dd: are you sure you have both mounted at root?  What's the output of sudo fdisk -l  ?
[05:45] <pepee> theancientgoat, is your /home in another partition?
[05:45] <theancientgoat> also, I cannot use the tty terminal, as it is being flooded by messages from noveau
[05:45] <_dd> pepee, parted -l doesn't show anything'
[05:45] <theancientgoat> no, same partition, but I think btrfs automatically makes new subvolumes
[05:46] <theancientgoat> it worked the first time I booted after installing 12.10
[05:46] <alsu> I just installed Ubuntu Server 12.04, but when I ssh to it from my OS X machine nothing on the console in color. how can I fix this?
[05:46] <theancientgoat> btw
[05:46] <pepee> theancientgoat, try asking in ##linux too
[05:46] <theancientgoat> I'm typing from a guest account atm, works fine
[05:46] <kunji> theancientgoat: Wouldn't they be using /home/username   why do you expect one to have / for its home?
[05:46] <theancientgoat> just my user account
[05:46] <_dd> kunji, fdisk -l shows all partitions but doesn't show where they're mounted at
[05:46] <theancientgoat> I don't expect it to have that, it just says that when I log in via tty
[05:47] <kunji> _dd: right, how about the output of mount?
[05:47] <pepee> theancientgoat, are you sure that /home/USER/ is there?
[05:47] <_dd> kunji, mount -l only shows sdb5 as mounted and doesn't show sda5 at all
[05:47] <theancientgoat> looks like it isnt 0.o
[05:48] <_dd> whereas gparted shows both sda5 and sdb5 as mounted at /
[05:48] <pepee> IIRC lightdm or unity had a bug that did that
[05:48] <_dd> see i made a backup of sda5 to sdb before moving the sda partition
[05:48] <theancientgoat> so, seems like the subvolume is failing to mount
[05:49] <pepee> it was something like unity crashed and X showed lightdm
[05:49] <kunji> _dd: well, then it's highly likely that you only have sdb5 mounted, so I don't think you do have 2 mounted at /
[05:49] <pepee> theancientgoat, just giving ideas. I don't know about btrfs
[05:49] <hayes> moondoggy: Did you find the repository?
[05:49] <_dd> kunji, ok, how do i fix that
[05:50] <_dd> shoud i run boot-repair
[05:50] <_dd> is it likely to be a grub problem
[05:50] <kunji> _dd: fix what?  I'm not sure what the issue is?
[05:50] <_dd> well sdb5 is the backup partition
[05:50] <_dd> i'd like to delete it and have the machine boot so that only sda5 is mounted at /
[05:51] <SixtyFold> is there a way to keep the file menu present at the top of ubuntu gnome 3?
[05:51] <kunji> _dd: Ah, ok, I think what you need to do is edit your fstab file.
[05:51] <_dd> ok...
[05:51] <theancientgoat> when I try to mount manually, it says no such file or directory:\
[05:52] <kunji> _dd: well, normally at least, but since this is root, you may also need to change GRUB... hmm
[05:52] <_dd> kunji, fstab shows the UUID of sda5 for /
[05:53] <SixtyFold> is there a way to keep the file menu present at the top of ubuntu gnome 3?
[05:53] <_dd> except... wait, i think it could be both partitions have the same UUID
[05:53] <_dd> could that be the problem
[05:53] <kunji> _dd: hmm, that's interesting, do you get an error for that mount failing in a log then?  Maybe that's too early in the boot process though.
[05:54] <_dd> yes both partitions have the same UUID
[05:54] <kunji> _dd: hmm, yeah, them having the same UUID could be a problem, the chances of 2 UUIDs being the same though is extremely slim
[05:54] <Guest84899> hi
[05:54] <_dd> well since they're copies of each other it's not so unlikely ;)
[05:54] <Guest84899> good evening
[05:54] <_dd> ah i think i see now
[05:54] <Guest84899> wtf my nickname
[05:54] <kunji> _dd: That's true
[05:54] <_dd> it all makes sense now
[05:55] <CrazyHorse18> hello
[05:55] <CrazyHorse18> i was trying to do an sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:55] <_dd> i copied sda5 to sdb5, making an exact copy -> same uuid -> so now both get mounted at /
[05:55] <_dd> haha
[05:55] <CrazyHorse18> and i got Errors were encountered while processing:
[05:55] <CrazyHorse18>  /var/cache/apt/archives/openssh-client_1%3a5.3p1-3ubuntu7_amd64.deb
[05:55] <CrazyHorse18> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[05:55] <CrazyHorse18> what should i try?
[05:55] <CoreyBR> is there any wifi signal difference between ubuntu and windows 7?
[05:55] <theancientgoat> maybe you guys can help me with another issue
[05:55] <theancientgoat> noveau is flooding my tty's
[05:55] <_dd> well the solution should be simple then, boot to livecd and change the uuid of sdb5...
[05:56] <theancientgoat> is there a way to disable it?
[05:56] <foad_> Audio problems. Who can help?
[05:56] <_dd> thanks for the help
[05:56] <theancientgoat> without rebooting..
[05:56] <kunji> _dd: lol, hmm, yeah, that seems like a good route to try.
[05:56] <CoreyBR> foad_, whats your problem?
[05:57] <foad_> audio not work
[05:57] <foad_> but audio card installed
[05:57] <CoreyBR> is the correct driver installed?
[05:58] <foad_> and already is working
[05:58] <foad_> i am installing sbagen
[05:58] <foad_> yes
[05:58] <foad_> driver is correct installed
[05:59] <CrazyHorse18> guys, i can't do an apt-get upgrade, i keep getting a "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)" error at the end
[05:59] <CrazyHorse18> any idea what the issue is?
[06:00] <CoreyBR> CrazyHorse18, any other program using apt-get or dpkg maybe?
[06:00] <CoreyBR> check your processes
[06:00] <CrazyHorse18> ah right ok
[06:00] <CrazyHorse18> thanks
[06:00] <ColloquyUser> Will anyone tell me how to delete a user on the left?
[06:00] <CoreyBR> ColloquyUser, a user that you're not using anymore?
[06:01] <CoreyBR> foad_, have you tried alsa tools?
[06:01] <foad_> yes i hace
[06:01] <foad_> have*
[06:02] <foad_> Can't open /dev/dsp, errno 2
[06:02] <CrazyHorse18> CoreyBR: it doesn't look like anything is using it https://gist.github.com/2206c5ef8950f8dbc2d6
[06:02] <CoreyBR> foad_, sorry no clues then, i'm kinda new to linux OS
[06:02] <foad_> ubuntu 11.04
[06:03] <kunji> foad_: have you messed with your audio a lot?  This might help put things back how they started:  http://blog.zloether.com/2009/11/reset-sound-settings-in-ubuntu.html
[06:03] <y0shi> hi all
[06:03] <ColloquyUser> ColloquyUser: I mean on the left there is a window with channels and nicknames i d like to remove some nicks first
[06:03] <Floy> hi hello
[06:03] <fego> hi Floy
[06:03] <Floy> i need help how to install my rar file
[06:03] <foad_> thanks kunji
[06:03] <Floy> oh fego u again
[06:04] <fego> Floy: sudo apt-get install p7zip-full
[06:04] <fego> run above commands on your terminal
[06:04] <CrazyHorse18> if i'm going to install ubuntu from scratch and intead on using chef.. should i download cloud version or just normal server?
[06:04] <CoreyBR> i'm having a bad problem with my ubuntu :\
[06:04] <CoreyBR> wifi problem
[06:05] <CoreyBR> well, i'll try get some sleep
[06:05] <CoreyBR> good night to everyone
[06:05] <CoreyBR> c you guys later
[06:05] <fego> bye CoreyBR
[06:06] <Floy> ok i try download the 7zip
[06:06] <levi_> I still have 7 hours early because I'm Hungarian
[06:06] <fego> !apt | floy
[06:08] <lonejack> hi, can help me on command getent? When I do "getent group www-data" I obtain this: www-data:x:33:claudio
[06:08] <lonejack> My command should show who are in a group
[06:08] <lonejack> x,33,claudio are uesers
[06:08] <lonejack> ?
[06:09] <pepee> lonejack, read the manpage
[06:09] <Floy> sir fego?
[06:09] <pepee> man getent
[06:10] <fego> Floy: please dont call sir, it is embarrassing :)
[06:11] <Floy> tnx sir ubbutto
[06:11] <fego> are you able to install the package ?
[06:11] <pepee> lol, I can't find the manpage for getent
[06:11] <fego> Floy:
[06:12] <firebalrog>  /j Debian
[06:12] <ColloquyUser> I only paid 3 cents for colloquies!
[06:14] <gfm> hello <---- newbe I need help getting my wireless card to work on my hp pavilion dv2310us laptop. can some one help me
[06:15] <gnomefreak> what the hell ios the lsb command? for some reason its not working
[06:16] <Floy> i download the zip then unexpected token 'newline'
[06:17] <gnomefreak> this is what i get when running lsb http://paste.ubuntu.com/1308875/
[06:17] <Floy> syntax errror heheheh
[06:18] <Floy> apt-get install <package_name> =error
[06:18] <fego> what does it say Floy
[06:18] <fego> how the error looks like
[06:18] <Floy> i download the zip then unexpected token 'newline'
[06:18] <Floy> syntax errror heheheh
[06:19] <gfm> hello Im having trouble with my wireless on my laptop just installed ubuntu and need help, anybody?
[06:19] <kunji> gnomefreak: umm, what is the lsb command?  I've never heard of it, what is it supposed to to?
[06:19] <fego> Floy: to open a file that is in rar format you need a decompression utility like 7zip
[06:20] <fego> you need to install in first in your ubuntu system
[06:20] <lonejack> I'm in the group www-data( getent group www-data-> "www-data:x:33:claudio") when I show a directory as (me) by nautilus or terminal I see nothing. When I do the same I see a lot of files with rw privileges for group on said files. Can anybody explain me why?
[06:20] <marcus> ANY1 know how to fix fl studio on lubuntu with gnome 12.10? error : - Running wine- FL.exe env WINEDEBUG=+asiowine: virtual memory exhausted
[06:20] <rigo> which is the smallest desktop for linux?
[06:20] <kunji> gfm: umm, I would find a wired connection to use, make sure all your packages are up to date, then check if there are any suggested proprietary drivers.  I unfortunately don't know enough about wireless drivers to help more than that though.
[06:20] <lonejack> excuse me  "When I do the same as root .."
[06:21] <marcus> rigo, try slitaz:{
[06:21] <gfm> kunji thank you im a newbe very confused
[06:21] <kunji> rigo: smallest? not sure, FluxBox, LXDE, and XFCE are all pretty small though, maybe look up what tinycore uses?
[06:21] <fego> rigo: even tiny core :)
[06:21] <rigo> i wrote "smallest desktop linux" and the first catch is slitaz
[06:22] <marcus> yup, 30mb
[06:22] <Floy> sir fego
[06:22] <rigo> i use htpc with xbmc but i want to run a gui ftp client, for downloading accessing the pc via xrdp
[06:22] <fego> please Floy
[06:22] <SixtyFold> i like LXDE personally
[06:22] <Floy> i only extract the file to where
[06:23] <Floy> ?
[06:23] <gfm> quit
[06:23] <rigo> i havent found any usable "tui" ftp client. the mc for ftp is definetely NOT the solution :)
[06:24] <rigo> can i install slitaz to an existing ubuntu install? (like i saied only xbmc is installed on it)
[06:25] <kunji> Rigo: Slitaz is a full distro though, not just a desktop, other very small distros include TinyCore, and Damn Small Linux
[06:25] <Floy> sir fego is it like windows install and next ?
[06:25] <kunji> Rigo: I'm not suggesting switching to them, just look up what window managers they use
[06:26] <rigo> i'll read after. thanks for the suggestions!
[06:26] <fego> Floy: unfortunately no wizards like windows in linux installers :)
[06:26] <fego> see below
[06:26] <fego> !apt
[06:26] <rigo> ubuntu-desktop is 700mib i dont want to install it
[06:27] <fego> Floy: just go through the link to get started
[06:28] <nischay> Hi Guys I am in serious trouble after upgrading from 12.04 to 12.10 things are not going good
[06:28] <kunji> rigo: hmm, that is actually a metapackage isn't it?  And contains things like Rhythmbox, LibreOffice, etc.. not just the stuff needed for a GUI.
[06:28] <ColloquyUser> Is there a romance channel here?
[06:28] <fego> ColloquyUser: may be not the intended purpose of this network :)
[06:28] <Karlo_> nischay: ask a specific question / describe your situation.
[06:29] <fego> ColloquyUser: though you can search for one ,
[06:29] <Floy> i hve here the file 7 zip then what i going to do next?
[06:29] <fego> see /msg alis help list
[06:29] <ColloquyUser> How fego?
[06:30] <fego> ColloquyUser: see /msg alis help list
[06:30] <nischay> after upgrading  and rebooting my laptop on login notiing happen no icosn no slidebar noting
[06:31] <nischay> changing session to gnome classical works but it when I open any application there is no close and minimize button
[06:31] <rigo> kunji: im not sure. i dont know a lot about the gui-s. i just would like to have the easyest and smallest solution for downloading via ftp
[06:32] <ColloquyUser> There is nothing there fego
[06:32] <ColloquyUser> On the list
[06:33] <rigo> now. let me ask something. if i install a desktop. i'll have a new file in /usr/share/xsessions/something.desktop
[06:33] <Floy> unable to locate package
[06:33] <fego> ColloquyUser: as i said earlier,
[06:33] <rigo> how can i set up if i log in via xrdp to start that desktop session?
[06:33] <Floy> sir fego
[06:33] <Floy> unable to locate package
[06:34] <fego> Floy:sudo apt-cache search p7zip
[06:34] <Floy> k sir i try that
[06:34] <fego> Floy: run the above command on your terminal
[06:35] <blacksunseven> anyone understand shaders in snes9x?
[06:36] <kunji> rigo: mmk, well, for the GUI stack, first you need X at the lowest level (or Wayland if you want to be bleeding edge, but it doesn't have network transparency, at least yet).  Then you'll need a desktop, Gnome 2.x, Gnome 3, KDE, XFCE, LXDE, are all options.  On top of that you need a window manager, Gnome uses Metacity by default, I'm not sure about the rest, but they're mix and match really.  There are a wide range of them, and there are s
[06:36] <Floy> it says XZ-formay compression library
[06:36] <Floy> sir fego
[06:36] <Floy> it says XZ-formay compression library
[06:36] <rigo> i have knome installed as i remember
[06:37] <Floy> it says XZ-format compression library
[06:37] <kunji> rigo: Sorry I'm no expert, I don't know the answer to either of your last two questions
[06:38] <rigo> ok thanks, i read after than
[06:38] <q_query>  /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER q_query jdxwhqvxuinl
[06:38] <Floy> sir fego?
[06:41] <theancientgoat> Fixed it :|
[06:41] <theancientgoat> was a space in my fstab options
[06:41] <Floy> fego
[06:41] <fego> yes sir Floy !
[06:41] <cousin_luigi> Greetings.
[06:41] <marcus> any1 know what to do if theres no hw0, "hw0, 0" or anything in aplay -L command?
[06:42] <Floy> it says XZ-format compression library
[06:42]  * cousin_luigi changed motherboard and now the default NIC is labeled eth2 instead of eth0: any idea where to rename it?
[06:42] <fego> Floy: have you installed the package p7zip-full
[06:42] <theancientgoat> You know, ubuntu one really should sync installed packages accross machines
[06:44] <Floy> no sir
[06:44] <Floy> i don't done that
[06:45] <Floy> can't install it
[06:46] <kunji> theancientgoat: Certainly not as default behaviour... that would suck balls, I use it on some machines that are servers, and some that are just light laptops, would be a nice option though.  Also let you pick a config to clone from all your machines using UbuntuOne, rather than just having one config to apply across the board.
[06:46] <jean-marie> bonjour
[06:46] <fego> Floy: why ?
[06:46] <fego> please read the link ubottu have provided to you
[06:46] <fego> !apt | Floy again
[06:47] <jean-marie> please help me, i search any game for ubuntu, do you know an good link for me thx
[06:48] <theancientgoat> Yeah, definietly not default behaviour, kunji, but as an added extra
[06:50] <arunkumar413> hi, i'm unable to play an .avi video file
[06:50] <arunkumar413> the error is could not determine the stream of file
[06:50] <gogeta> ardchoille: vlc
[06:51] <ardchoille> gogeta: ?
[06:51] <kunji> jean-marie: There are many of them in the Software Center.
[06:51] <gogeta> arunkumar413: that was for you
[06:51] <ardchoille> ah
[06:52] <arunkumar413> gogeta, ok, but i want the use the default player
[06:52] <gogeta> arunkumar413: writhe refulgent should prompt to do extra codecs
[06:52] <gogeta> defult
[06:53] <kunji> arunkumar413: what are you trying to play the file with?  Have you tried with VLC?  Also this kind of thing will get over my head quickly because avi is a container that can contain many different formats.  I actually never use the default player, always VLC or mplayer, or Miro
[06:53] <gogeta> ari
[06:53] <arunkumar413> kunji, ok, now installing vlc
[06:54] <gogeta> arunkumar413: yea vlc  beats stock to death
[06:55] <gogeta> arunkumar413: dunno why its not stock
[06:55] <ardchoille> Another vote for vlc, it's quite nice
[06:55] <Floy> it's so confusing AGhhh
[06:55] <Coded11> I'm running 12.10 and wanted to know what's the best way to get at the eyecandy?(3D cube desktop, min/maximize animations, etc)  Is it still just compiz or has something newer / better come along?
[06:56] <ncm> can some one help me. have new aspire one cant adjust brightness
[06:56] <ncm> aspire 735
[06:56] <gogeta> Coded11: still composition just do its controle panel to get all the extras
[06:57] <Coded11> compiz-extras?
[06:57] <gogeta> download
[06:57] <kunji> Coded11: yeah, still the same.... though Unity doesn't always play nice with them
[06:59] <enneract1> Is there anything that comes with vanilla ubuntu server 12.10 which would block udp traffic
[06:59] <fego> Floy: see the below links
[06:59] <fego> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/installingsoftware
[06:59] <arunkumar413> gogeta, its not playing even with vlc
[06:59] <enneract1> I upgraded to 12.10, and suddenly I'm unable to download anything via torrent with udp trackers (in this case, 12.10 desktop iso).
[06:59] <gogeta> compiz controle panel aka ccsm
[07:00] <gogeta> arunkumar413: probly a bad avi
[07:00] <ncm> hello on acer aspire laptop no brightness control draining battery
[07:00] <ncm> pls help
[07:01] <modulo> clear
[07:01] <gogeta> ncm laptop-mode-tools helps with battery
[07:02] <Coded11> kunji: gogeta: ty
[07:02] <ncm> i need to adjust brightness
[07:02] <wilee-nilee> ncm, Does power-brightness lock have a slider?
[07:02] <ncm> yes nothing happens
[07:02] <gogeta> ncm: witch model probly uses a app
[07:03] <ncm> aspire one 725
[07:03] <ncm> acer aspire one 725
[07:03] <lotuspsychje> ncm:i got aspire one too whats your issue
[07:03] <ncm> i hope i dont have to go back to windows because of brightness :(
[07:04] <ncm> no brightness control
[07:04] <ncm> high brightness is killing my battery
[07:04] <bkboggy> hi
[07:05] <enneract1> anyone know anything about 12.10 and udp torrent trackers
[07:08] <lotuspsychje> ncm: maybe this can help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2036109
[07:10] <lotuspsychje> enneract1:what about them?
[07:11] <kunji> umm... T.T  one of my laptops just started failing to boot.  The boot hangs at PulseAudio configured for per-user sessions   saned disabled; edit /etc/default/saned     [OK]
[07:11] <gogeta> btw Bodhisattva owns on a netbook
[07:11] <gogeta> bodhi
[07:12] <kunji> I had killed a process on the previous boot that I thought was the xsession...  I feel like I just did something stupid...
[07:12] <ncm> will try it lotusp
[07:13] <kunji> Oh, actually I can get to the ttys and login, not sure why I don't get to lightdm on tty7 though
[07:13] <pepee> kunji, what kernel?
[07:13] <gogeta> anyone else hear run e17
[07:13] <kunji> pepee: umm, 3.0.0-26-generic i686
[07:14] <pepee> ah
[07:14] <pepee> kunji, check /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[07:16] <kunji> pepee: I'm not sure what I should be looking for in there, and I'm not sure how to pastebin it from the terminal.  The gist of the last two lines is:  (II) Unloading evdev    and    ddxSigGiveUp: Closing Log
[07:17] <pepee> kunji, so I suppose, from that lines, is that X is not starting
[07:18] <pepee> try sudo service lightdm start
[07:19] <kunji> pepee: hmm, it fails, doesn't give anything on the command line, but doing ps ax | grep light doesn't return anything, and while it switched over to tty7, nothing changed on that tty
[07:20] <Avinash> hey guys.. I'm struggling in executing this shell script http://pastebin.com/Ur7Rtkqr ..
[07:21] <pepee> kunji, nothing at all? were you installing a new graphics driver?
[07:22] <pepee> Avinash, try sudo bash update-workspaces.sh
[07:23] <pepee> still, that looks wrong
[07:23] <Avinash> ok ..
[07:23] <Karlo_> You think bash vs sh matters there?
[07:23] <pepee> or sudo ~Avinash/Desktop/0ad/build/workspaces/update-workspaces.sh
[07:24] <Karlo_> Avinash: ls -l build.sh
[07:24] <Avinash> still the same :(
[07:24] <Karlo_> Is it executable?
[07:24] <Avinash> -rwxrwxrwx 1 avinash avinash 3479 Aug 20 00:19 update-workspaces.sh
[07:25] <Karlo_> no, the build.sh subroutine
[07:25] <Avinash> seems like it is an executable ..
[07:25] <Karlo_> That's what the error is complaining about
[07:25] <Karlo_> NOT the update-workspaces.sh file, we already know that executes.
[07:26] <Avinash> how do I change the all the files in a directory as executable ones . ?
[07:26] <pepee> chmod u+x *.sh
[07:26] <Avinash> chmod -hR <file>, is it enough  ?
[07:26] <Karlo_> Usually, you don't want to do that.  But if so:   chmod +x *
[07:26] <kunji> pepee: nothing at all.  Nope, didn't install anything recently.  I've found an error in the logs though Error compiling keymap   Failed to load keymap.  Loading default keymap instead.   generating xkmfile /tmp/...   Error compiling keymap    couldn't compile keymap  Failed to compile keymap   Keyboard initialization filed.  This could be a missing or incorrect setup of xkeyboard-config.   Fatal server error:   Failed to activate core devic
[07:27] <Karlo_> Was I right about build.sh being non-executable?
[07:27] <Avinash> yes it's not an executable one
[07:28] <Karlo_> OK, that explains the error, then.
[07:28] <Avinash> now it's functioning ...
[07:29] <pepee> kunji, install this:  x11-xkb-utils
[07:29] <Scall> Hello, to see X11 cursor files the only possibility is to install the plugin xmc for gimp, or there is another method? Thanks in advance, and sorry for my English.
[07:29] <Avinash> after I changed the file permission
[07:29] <fego> do you own these files ?
[07:29] <fego> Avinash:
[07:29] <Avinash> what ??
[07:29] <pepee> kunji, if it's installed, run sudo apt-get install --reinstall x11-xkb-utils
[07:29] <fego> Avinash: pastebin the `ls -l` output
[07:30] <Scall> I don't want edit the cursor files, I only want see them
[07:30] <Avinash> fego, it's now it's working after I did "chmod 777 *"
[07:30] <Scall> *to see them
[07:31] <kunji> pepee: there are also errors in .xsessionerrors regarding the same.  I'll try that now, just need a bit to get an internet connection
[07:33] <Mrokii> Hello. Where has the startup-applications app gone in 12.10?
[07:33] <Floy> damn hard to configure
[07:34] <fego> Avinash: its great
[07:34] <Avinash> fego, again I got an error .. which is very similar to the earlier one ..
[07:34] <Floy> i think im gonna istall windows when it's like this
[07:34] <Avinash> now it says, "update-workspaces.sh: line 77: ./build.sh: Permission denied
[07:35] <Avinash> ERROR: NVTT build failed
[07:35] <Avinash> "
[07:35] <steven-> Avinash, still?
[07:35] <steven-> did you actually check the rights?
[07:35] <arunkumar413> hi, ubuntu doesnt restart or shut down. when i click the shut down button in ubuntu, just the screen goes blank but the system doesnt shutdown
[07:35] <Karlo_> Check to see if build.sh is *still* executable now.  Maybe it created a new one on the fly.
[07:35] <gordonjcp> Floy: What exactly are you trying to do?
[07:35] <Avinash> how do I change the files in a directory into executable
[07:35] <Avinash> ?
[07:36] <steven-> Avinash, open a terminal
[07:36] <steven-> and type in
[07:36] <steven-> chmod +x YourFileToExecute.sh
[07:36] <Karlo_> Avinash, is build.sh currently executable or not?  (Check right now.)
[07:36] <steven-> +x means executable
[07:36] <kunji> pepee: You're a total boss man!  Do you think killing that process was the cause though?  The process I killed was /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with-session /usr/bin/gnome-session --session=ubuntu-2d
[07:37] <Guest70076> #join nginx
[07:37] <Avinash> karlo, yes it is .. but I encountered another script in the same passion
[07:37] <steven-> Avinash, i'd like to see the output of the command "ls -l | grep build.sh"
[07:37] <pepee> kunji, could be, yeah. no idea though, I just googled one of the error messages
[07:37] <fego> Floy: it takes time to adjust to the new environment
[07:37] <Karlo_> Avinash, try this:  fgrep build.sh update-workspaces.sh
[07:38] <Avinash> steven, how to turn a complete directory(containing few executable files) into executable
[07:38] <pepee> Avinash, chmod +x .
[07:38] <Karlo_> Avinash, the command would be   chmod +x *
[07:38] <Avinash> I tried "chmod 777 <directory name>"
[07:38] <Karlo_> No, that changes only the directory itself
[07:38] <fego> Avinash: your parent script is forking scripts which may not have necesssary executable bit son
[07:38] <steven-> Avinash, if you have sub directories you have to add the parameter -R
[07:38] <fego> 1
[07:39] <kunji> pepee: ah, thanks, I should have done that, lol, sorry about that, I really appreciate the help ^_^
[07:39] <fego> s/bit son/bits on/
[07:39] <pepee> no problem kunji
[07:39] <Avinash> the same directory contains a bunch of sub-directories ..
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[07:39] <Mrokii> Man, Ubuntu gets worse and worse... :(
[07:39] <pepee> kunji, btw I googled this:  "Error compiling keymap"
[07:40] <pepee> as you can see, apparently X failed because it needed those files
[07:41] <kunji> pepee: hmm, yeah, interesting, I'll have to look into what happened to those files.
[07:42] <Avinash> karlo, http://pastebin.com/im3cWH4r
[07:42] <marcus> anyone know how to make low latency audio with jack? i only manage to get slow sound :{
[07:43] <phy1729> Can I make the mouse wake the computer even when in single user mode
[07:43] <Karlo_> Avinash: OK good, it's executing the existing build.sh rather than creating it first.  Should be OK then.
[07:43] <gordonjcp> marcus: it's quite fiddly
[07:44] <Avinash> fego, steve, karlo .. thanks for the help guys ..
[07:44] <marcus> ok, so is there any basic things to do?:{
[07:44] <Karlo_> Avinash: find . -name \*.sh -print | xargs chmod +x
[07:44] <gordonjcp> marcus: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToJACKConfiguration
[07:44] <Karlo_> Avinash: That will make all your *.sh files executable
[07:44] <gordonjcp> marcus: the annoying thing about Ubuntu is that it uses pulseaudio
[07:44] <gordonjcp> which just gets in the way, and breaks audio apps horribly
[07:45] <pepee> phy1729, wake from sleep? in my laptop it works that way
[07:45] <marcus> i dont know which card is mine :{
[07:45] <marcus> kk
[07:45] <gordonjcp> marcus: how low-latency do you need?
[07:45] <gordonjcp> or rather
[07:45] <gordonjcp> marcus: What exactly are you trying to do?
[07:45] <marcus> enough to play midi with keyboard
[07:46] <gordonjcp> marcus: ah well, that's a matter of personal taste
[07:46] <phy1729> It's ubuntu server and a desktop. It's command line only so I'm assuming it just ignores the mouse
[07:46] <gordonjcp> phy1729: correct
[07:46] <gordonjcp> phy1729: maybe gpm will help you
[07:46] <gordonjcp> marcus: I find that sub-50ms is acceptable
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[07:46] <pratz> Hello guys
[07:46] <marcus> oks, so how do i find out my card?
[07:46] <gordonjcp> marcus: lspci
[07:47] <gordonjcp> Floy: handy hint with IRC nicks - type the first few letters and press <TAB>
[07:47] <pratz> I installed hotot - twitter client
[07:47] <fego> lspci | grep VGA
[07:47] <gordonjcp> Floy: <gordonjcp> doesn't highlight so you get lost in the noise, gordonjcp: does highlight
[07:47] <pratz> by mistake in the perferences i set the option 'start minized' and i can not find it in the system tray now
[07:47] <fego> !tab | Floy
[07:47] <gordonjcp> !unrar | Floy
[07:47] <marcus> Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 05) ???
[07:48] <gordonjcp> Floy: what's the antivirus for?  Are you scanning mail or something?
[07:48] <pratz> prat I am searhcing for configuration files of hotot , but am not able to find them
[07:48] <pratz> any help would be appreciated
[07:49] <gordonjcp> marcus: you should be able to get down to about 50ms without any special fiddling
[07:49] <marcus> k, so what i do?:{
[07:49] <gordonjcp> marcus: that's roughly the same latency as a mid-80s MIDI synth ;-)
[07:49] <gordonjcp> marcus: just install jack, and install whatever synth you're trying to use
[07:49] <gordonjcp> marcus: you probably want qjackctl as well
[07:50] <marcus> ok , well i dont find record, and it lags more than acceptable..:{
[07:50] <gordonjcp> well how is it currently set up?
[07:50] <pepee> pratz, run dpkg -L hotot | less
[07:51] <marcus> qjackctl only, and an USB mic as soundcard
[07:51] <pepee> pratz, that command will give you a list of the files in that package
[07:51] <niadh> Hi all, I am experiencing a boot issue I can't work out. Ubuntu will not boot and shows on the text "GRUB_" on screen, however after using the SuperGrub CD I can boot ubuntu and have installed the latest updates and have ran grub-install on my root drive to no avail, the system will not boot. I've also tried the boot-repair tool which while being very useful in previous issues with bootloaders has not managed to do anything. Does anyone
[07:51] <niadh>  have any suggestions that I haven't yet tried?
[07:51] <gordonjcp> marcus: okay, then I'm a bit lost here
[07:51] <gordonjcp> marcus: I thought you wanted to run a synth on the PC?
[07:51] <pratz> pepee: output http://dpaste.org/hGDIg/
[07:51] <eos> anyone who has had problems of slow boot? my 12.04 64 bit take 1.5 to boot
[07:51] <marcus> oh well, synth midi..
[07:51] <eos> dmesg shows two big holes
[07:51] <pratz> pepee: those are all doc i guess
[07:51] <gordonjcp> marcus: What exactly are you trying to do?
[07:52] <eos> one 10s the other 60s
[07:52] <gordonjcp> marcus: I don't see where a USB mike will help with that
[07:52] <marcus> playing computer sounds with synth without lag ? :{
[07:52] <eos> do not understand what generates them .... anyone who can help?
[07:52] <marcus> i have headphones in mic..
[07:52] <gordonjcp> oh, okay
[07:52] <gordonjcp> so you have a USB audio adaptor with headphones plugged in?
[07:52] <marcus> yes
[07:52] <gordonjcp> good
[07:53] <gordonjcp> USB audio is a pain in the backside, but don't worry about that for now
[07:53] <pepee> pratz, dpkg -L hotot-gtk | less
[07:53] <gordonjcp> marcus: which software are you using?
[07:53] <marcus> fl studio
[07:53] <gordonjcp> marcus: that's not Linux software, is it?
[07:53] <marcus> nop :{ it took all night installing:{
[07:53] <gordonjcp> marcus: o_O
[07:53] <lotuspsychje> eos:did you clean install or upgrade
[07:54] <gordonjcp> marcus: okay, so is that running in Wine or something?
[07:54] <eos> clean install
[07:54] <marcus> yes
[07:54] <gordonjcp> marcus: ah
[07:54] <gordonjcp> marcus: not sure how you can fix that then
[07:54] <lotuspsychje> eos:any errors in /var/log/syslog that might be interesting?
[07:54] <gordonjcp> marcus: windows software is pretty horrible for lag, and wine just makes it worse
[07:55] <marcus> kk, but wineasio?? i couldnt install it :{
[07:55] <eos> lotuspsychje: I will look at it now
[07:55] <gordonjcp> marcus: don't know about that
[07:55] <ashaahs> sss
[07:55] <gordonjcp> marcus: I avoid Windows as much as possible, especially for audio work
[07:55] <pratz> pepee: it is in python/dist-packages
[07:55] <marcus> kk, well i'll try EnergyXT then :{ byebye,thx
[07:56] <Notimik> hm why is no fw enabled by default on ubuntu?
[07:56] <gordonjcp> Notimik: fw?
[07:56] <gordonjcp> it depends what firmware you want, surely
[07:56] <pratz> pepee: here http://dpaste.org/2DEZw/
[07:56] <Notimik> GoGi: firewall
[07:56] <Notimik> gordonjcp: firewall
[07:56] <gordonjcp> Notimik: oh, firewall
[07:56] <gordonjcp> Notimik: it's not something you really need
[07:57] <eos> lotuspsychje: no errors in  /var/log/syslog
[07:57] <eos> lotuspsychje: it seems to be hanging in two specific points during boot
[07:57] <Notimik> gordonjcp: but i guess we have alot of open ports on by deafult?
[07:57] <pepee> pratz, there doesn't seem to be a config file...
[07:57] <eos> lotuspsychje: at least from dmesg
[07:57] <lotuspsychje> eos:what about pressing F1 at boot logo to see whats happening
[07:57] <gordonjcp> Notimik: it depends what you're doing
[07:58] <niadh> Hi all, I am experiencing a boot issue I can't work out. Ubuntu will not boot and shows on the text "GRUB_" on screen, however after using the SuperGrub CD I can boot ubuntu and have installed the latest updates and have ran grub-install on my root drive to no avail, the system will not boot. I've also tried the boot-repair tool which while being very useful in previous issues with bootloaders has not managed to do anything. Does anyone
[07:58] <niadh>  have any suggestions that I haven't yet tried?
[07:58] <gordonjcp> Notimik: generally you don't have any ports open unless you specifically start up a server
[07:58] <pratz> pepee: there is one config.py but there is not settings like 'minimize'
[07:58] <Karlo_> !patience | niadh
[07:58] <lotuspsychje> eos:try pastebin your hang times txt
[07:58] <gordonjcp> Notimik: you don't need a firewall on a desktop machine, in any sane configuration
[07:58] <TUI> I get error message "error while loading shared libraries: libphonon.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" while i try to launch an application. Locate libphonon.so.4 gives me "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libphonon.so.4" and "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libphonon.so.4.6.0"
[07:58] <pepee> pratz, I suppose it's a python app. read the executable  /usr/bin/hotot
[07:59] <TUI> Why application cannot open shared object file?
[07:59] <Notimik> gordonjcp: ok..
[07:59] <niadh> Karlo_: Sorry, was typing commands into a terminal, turns out the window focus was here!
[07:59] <pratz> pepee: ya its a python app
[07:59] <Karlo_> TUI: Sounds like the /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu directory is not in the library search path
[07:59] <gordonjcp> Notimik: normally a desktop is going to be behind NAT, or some other sort of router
[08:00] <gordonjcp> Notimik: you pretty much don't just hook a desktop straight up to an internet connection any more
[08:00] <pratz> pepee: just 2-3 lines of code http://dpaste.org/MEsoU/
[08:00] <pepee> niadh, tried update-grub2 ?
[08:00] <Notimik> gordonjcp: mm have an spi firewall in my router. but on a laptop you connect directly from time to time
[08:00] <TUI> Karlo_:  ok, what should i do about it? remove it?
[08:01] <niadh> pepee: Not yet, I thought that was run as part of grub-install? I'll try it just now.
[08:01] <gordonjcp> Notimik: connect directly through what?
[08:01] <pepee> pratz, wow, no source code?
[08:01] <mortdeus> did ubuntu change terminfo in 12.10?
[08:01] <eos> lotuspsychje: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1308990/
[08:01] <gordonjcp> Notimik: if you're on 3G you're behind NAT...
[08:01] <Notimik> gordonjcp: thru a usb dongle for example
[08:02] <pepee> pratz, apt-get source hotot{,-gtk}  <- this will download and unpack the source code of both packages in the current folder
[08:02] <eos> lotuspsychje: hole at 5.5 and at 16.00
[08:02] <gordonjcp> Notimik: yeah, so on 3G?  That's NATted
[08:02] <mortdeus> there is a usr/share/terminfo/72/x file that used to exist apparently in 12.04 thats not there anymore?
[08:02] <pepee> niadh, no idea, but I remember reading that you had to run that after installing it from a live cd
[08:02] <lotuspsychje> eos:lemme check
[08:04] <ashaahs> ,,,,
[08:04] <lotuspsychje> eos:whats on your dev/sda6?
[08:05] <eos> lotuspsychje: /home
[08:05] <blackshirt> hello
[08:05] <niadh> pepee: I have the real system booted, I can use a supergrub CD to in effect chain load ubuntu, but ubuntu's own grub just sit's forever waiting with the word grub shown, it's not like it shows a boot prompt, just sits there. I'm running the disk utility in case it's the disk, but I really hope it's not.
[08:05] <rudivs> what's the best strategy to deal with dependency conflicts as a result of disabled ppa's / repos? Will the following work? 1. sudo apt-get clean; 2. sudo apt-get autoclean; 3. sudo apt-get --purge autoremove; 4. sudo apt-get -f install
[08:05] <ashaahs> hello
[08:05] <blackshirt> hello ardchoille
[08:06] <rudivs> and then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -f install
[08:06] <pepee> niadh, what computer is this?
[08:06] <lotuspsychje> eos:around 16 wifi is trying freq, you got eth0 or wifi?
[08:06] <ashaahs> hellolll
[08:06] <eos> lotuspsychje: eth0, wifi is off
[08:06] <bazhang> !ppa-purge | rudivs
[08:07] <lotuspsychje> eos:really odd...
[08:07] <blackshirt> hello ashaahs
[08:07] <ashaahs> lpl
[08:07] <bazhang> ashaahs, ubuntu support question?
[08:08] <rudivs> bazhang, does ppa-purge work for disabled repos as well (or only ppa's)
[08:08] <lotuspsychje> eos:you could try a few things, like nomodeset to make sure its not compiz hanging
[08:08] <eos> lotuspsychje: I mean it is ON in the bios, but it seems to be switched off
[08:08] <bazhang> rudivs, just the PPA; what other repos did you have in there
[08:08] <eos> lotuspsychje: compiz is ogg
[08:08] <eos> lotuspsychje: could it be that /dev/sd6 is btfrs?
[08:08] <eos> lotuspsychje: sorry, copmiz is off
[08:09] <lotuspsychje> eos:you not using unity3D?
[08:09] <eos> lotuspsychje: nope
[08:09] <niadh> peppe: A desktop machine I use as an NFS server, it's a custom build from a small company, nothing so easy to look up as the likes of dell or hp unfortunately
[08:09] <ashaahs> ssj
[08:09] <bazhang> ashaahs, english please
[08:09] <lotuspsychje> eos:ok not sure bout btfrs
[08:09] <eos> lotuspsychje: it is hanging much earlier .... it seems either a filesystem problem .... or a driver?
[08:10] <lotuspsychje> eos:i would try the F1 at bootscreen, see in realtime what hangs
[08:10] <pepee> eos, I'd try installing bootchart and looking at the outpu
[08:10] <pepee> output
[08:10] <eos> lotuspsychje: thanks
[08:10] <eos> pepee: bootchart?
[08:10] <lotuspsychje> !info bootchart > lotuspsychje
[08:10] <rudivs> bazhang, I'm helping someone else, and by the state of their packages I can see that they previously had a development repo enabled ("http://qgis.org/debian-nightly"), but it's not there anymore
[08:11] <lotuspsychje> pepee:tnx for that package info
[08:11] <eos> lotuspsychje: is there a way to make sure is not testing wifi at boot?
[08:11] <pepee> !info pybootchartgui
[08:11] <bazhang> rudivs, try commenting it out, and updating package list after the ppa-purge, then we can troubleshoot from there
[08:11] <lotuspsychje> pepee:nice find tnx
[08:11] <pepee> yeah, bootchart is cool
[08:12] <pratz> pepee: can not find the config file buddy
[08:12] <lotuspsychje> bazhang:howto request empty triggers for ubottu?
[08:12] <pepee> niadh, does it use EFI or a BIOS?
[08:13] <eos> !info bootchart > eos
[08:13] <pratz> pepee: i can only see the same file config.py
[08:13] <bazhang> lotuspsychje, what do you mean by empty
[08:13] <pepee> pratz, read it?
[08:13] <pratz> pepee: ya
[08:13] <ghabit> Hello. 12.10 here. Anyone knows hot to get statuses support  (right-top position, username) for pidgin, like it done by default for empathy? And for banshee, like it done by default in unity for rhytmbox? Thx.
[08:13] <lotuspsychje> bazhang:like !zeitgeist is empty, how would one request a fill in of the trigger?
[08:13] <eos> pepee: thanks for the package
[08:13] <niadh> pepee: BIOS I imagine, anyway to tell for sure?
[08:14] <pepee> niadh, no idea :/
[08:14] <bazhang> http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins   lotuspsychje
[08:14] <lotuspsychje> bazhang:tnx lemme check
[08:15] <pratz> pepee: can i remove the application with purge option and see ?
[08:15] <pepee> niadh, try adding noefi to the kernel command line in grub
[08:15] <pratz> what happens
[08:15] <bazhang> ghabit, to the messaging menu? under the envelope icon?
[08:16] <ghabit> bazhang, also envelope color depending of status.
[08:16] <pepee> niadh, that, if you can do that. can you edit that line?
[08:16] <pratz> pepee: but the confi should be in my home dir , correct ?
[08:16] <pepee> pratz, no idea how to do that
[08:16] <pratz> pepee: as it will be different for others users
[08:16] <ghabit> bazhang, want all of this features, but with gnome-shell.
[08:16] <pepee> pratz, try ls ~/.hotot
[08:17] <niadh> pepee: I can, though, I should add that this PC worked flawlessly for months, it just stopped booting yesterday. Not from the grub prompt, it doesn't even get to a point where I could edit a boot line, I can however use the supergrub CD to kickstart it and directly add it to the text file
[08:17] <ghabit> bazhang, if it is possible of cource.
[08:17] <bazhang> ghabit, I'm still looking, be patient please
[08:17] <pratz> pepee: already tried that one
[08:17] <pepee> niadh, if it doesn't even show the grub menu, I'd try asking in #grub
[08:18] <pepee> pratz, no idea then
[08:18] <pratz> pepee: ok, thanks
[08:19] <niadh> pepee: Is that an ubuntu channel or grub itself?
[08:20] <pepee> niadh, a channel for grub
[08:20] <pepee> niadh, this is freenode
[08:20] <niadh> pepee: Ok, i'll try there then
[08:20] <pepee> gotta leave.
[08:20] <pratz> any one how can i find configuration files of application hotot ?
[08:20] <pepee> bye people, have a nice day/night
[08:21] <ghabit> bazhang, sorry, I'm not in a hurry. I have found some stuff here https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/360/douban-fm/ and here https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/260/pidgin-menu/ , but seems does not working.
[08:21] <Shazer[2]> Hey guys, I seem to have a dpkg problem,.
[08:21] <Shazer[2]> A while ago I tried installing freemind and ever since it has corrupted my software center and the ability to install stuff with apt-get :/
[08:22] <Shazer[2]> This is the output of "sudo apt-get -f install"
[08:22] <Shazer[2]> http://pastebin.com/KYnLpQci
[08:22] <bazhang> Shazer[2], paste.ubuntu.com the errors when you apt-get update and apt-get upgrade
[08:22] <Shazer[2]> bazhang ^^
[08:23] <ix_> Shazer[2], enter synaptic and fix broken packages
[08:23] <Shazer[2]> ix_, how so?
[08:23] <bazhang> Shazer[2], did you try installing the missing packages it suggested
[08:23] <Shazer[2]> I think I got it, hold on.
[08:23] <ix_> Shazer[2], don't you have synaptic installed?
[08:23] <Shazer[2]> ix_, I do.
[08:24] <Shazer[2]> I just pressed fix, seeing if it works now.
[08:24] <Shazer[2]> ix_, I went edit fix broken packages then exited.
[08:24] <ix_> Shazer[2], you can fix your problem from synaptic, just remove freemind and it will be ok
[08:24] <Shazer[2]> Tried to run same command, and got same error.
[08:25] <ix_> Shazer[2], you have a lot of packages to upgrade
[08:25] <Shazer[2]> Thanks ix_. :)
[08:25] <Shazer[2]> Always a solution with Linux! :D
[08:25] <ix_> Shazer[2], no problem
[08:26] <eos> pepee: has bootchart development stopped? I was reading the doc but it refers to 2006, and there is no man page.
[08:28] <lotuspsychje> bazhang:tnx for trigger info
[08:29] <ashaahs> dsf
[08:30] <lotuspsychje> eos:did you try the f1 at boot?
[08:31] <eos> lotuspsychje: not yet, cannot reboot the machine ATM
[08:31] <eos> lotuspsychje: in approx 3h
[08:34] <vikeyfox> hello
[08:35] <lotuspsychje> vikeyfox:whats your question mate
[08:36] <ashaahs> wswws
[08:36] <vikeyfox> It's the first time i use irc,just try it^_^
[08:36] <gordonjcp> vikeyfox: hello
[08:36] <vikeyfox> haha
[08:36] <lotuspsychje> vikeyfox:also try #ubuntu-offtopic for a nice chitchat
[08:37] <vikeyfox>  thank you, i'll try
[08:37] <ashaahs> kkk
[08:38] <bazhang> ashaahs, stop that
[08:38] <ashaahs> sorry learning irc
[08:38] <bazhang> ashaahs, this is ubuntu support
[08:38] <bazhang> #ubuntu-offtopic for random chat ashaahs
[08:38] <ashaahs> any good channels for newbies
[08:38] <bazhang> ashaahs, see above
[08:39] <Karlo_> Hey I typed   rm *   and all my files disappeared!!
[08:40] <Karlo_> (Sorry, not real, just trying to liven up the conversation.)
[08:40] <ashaahs> no specifically ubuntu , just random chat about anything
[08:40] <guest-opxiOE> cristian_c, in basso a sinistra non c'è nulla
[08:40] <bazhang> !behelpful | Karlo_
[08:40] <bazhang> !it | guest-opxiOE
[08:40] <ashaahs> bazhang why is your name in red ?
[08:41] <bazhang> ashaahs, its highlighted, via your irc client
[08:41] <bazhang> ashaahs, random chat in #ubuntu-offtopic Please
[08:42] <Karlo_> !eo
[08:43] <gordonjcp> Karlo_: what's eo?
[08:43] <Karlo_> Esperanto.  I'm amused and impressed that it's covered.
[08:43] <gordonjcp> !gd
[08:43] <gordonjcp> there isn't one for Scots Gaelic
[08:44] <gordonjcp> not *massively* surprised there
[08:44] <gustav__> Hey. Anyone know how to change the screen a bit more yellow on a laptop?
[08:44] <gustav__> It's a bit blue.
[08:47] <gustav__> Wake up!!!
[08:49] <gustav__> How do I change the color tint in Ubuntu?
[08:49] <gustav__> Screen color.
[08:50] <lotuspsychje> !patience | gustav__
[08:50] <Alperen> gustav__, i dont know if it is useful but there is a color section in system settings. i have never used it.
[08:50] <gustav__> Alperen: Doesn't work/I'm doing it wrong.
[08:51] <Alperen> gustav__, which graphic card are you using?
[08:51] <gustav__> Alperen: Intel/Nvidia Opteron.
[08:51] <Karlo_> Color of the blank screen, you mean?
[08:51] <gustav__> No. Screen always... eh... the standard... of the screen. In X.
[08:52] <whiskers75> After upgrading to Quantal, my gdm/lightdm has been messed.
[08:52] <Alperen> gustav__, in nvidia-settings there is a color correction
[08:52] <whiskers75> It's lightdm all the time, not lightdm then gdm
[08:53] <gustav__> Alperen: nVidia is not the primary graphics adapter. Is there something like that for Intel?
[08:53] <lotuspsychje> whiskers75:you might wanna try a clean install
[08:53] <Alperen> gustav__, ow i dont know intel. I never had one so i cannot help you sorry.
[08:54] <whiskers75> lotuspsychje: grr. I don't exactly want to do that.
[08:54] <gustav__> Alperen: Thanks for answering any way.
[08:54] <whiskers75> Thanks, tho
[08:55] <alabala> Hi guys how to install the driver from the CD of ubuntu 12.04 video card?
[08:55] <gustav__> What driver?
[08:55] <alabala> nvidia GeForce 5500
[08:55] <alabala> FX *
[08:56] <bazhang> alabala, you wish to use the cd as an apt repository?
[08:56] <gustav__> Hm. Try sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[08:56] <vikeyfox> there is no nvidia driver in CD
[08:57] <alabala> ohh gustav__  thanks !
[08:59] <dada2012> ciao
[08:59] <lotuspsychje> !it | dada2012
[09:00] <boxemall> good morning. anyone awake?
[09:01] <k1l> boxemall: nope :)
[09:01] <lotuspsychje> boxemall:whats your question mate
[09:01] <k1l> just ask :)
[09:01] <gustav__> boxemall: Yes.
[09:01] <boxemall> ahh nice
[09:01] <boxemall> i am having serious trouble installing the latest lubuntu 12.10 on an old laptop (some compaq model 256 mb ram, 1.1 ghz cpu & enough (5gb+) HDD space) it boots so i can see the desktop but then keeps going on and off beeing stuck in some kind of bootloop. i tried bodhi latest release and it seems to work. any idea what's wrong???
[09:02] <lotuspsychje> boxemall:you might also test xubuntu, it run smoother then lubuntu on old laptop for me...
[09:03] <boxemall> well i thought lubuntu is even more conservative when it comes to resources...
[09:03] <lotuspsychje> boxemall:it depends on hardware sometime, for this laptop i tryed, xubuntu went smoother
[09:04] <boxemall> and the problem is halndling and looks wise lubuntu is closer to windows. since im redoing an old laptop for an older freind of mine who knows nothing other than windows he might have problems getting used to xfce
[09:04] <boxemall> handling*
[09:04] <lotuspsychje> boxemall:or maybe openbox?
[09:05] <boxemall> is there an openbox version of ubuntu?
[09:05] <lotuspsychje> !info openbox | boxemall
[09:05] <lotuspsychje> boxemall:try install and login from your lubuntu
[09:06] <bazhang> lotuspsychje, lubuntu uses lxde and openbox as it is
[09:06] <boxemall> as i said i cant install since all i see is the blue lubuntu backdrop and a grey window with nothing in it... grey window and desktop keep disappearing and coming back....
[09:06] <lotuspsychje> bazhang:by default you can login to openbox?
[09:07] <bazhang> boxemall, got lxpanel installed and configured?
[09:08] <saleem> is there any PPA for latest kernels for precise ?
[09:08] <boxemall> nope i get stuck on the desktop but all i see is the background while the taskbar stay greyish and enmtpy. its as it wont render or even complete the  boot process. cd is ok i even switched to starting from usb booting with plpbt since that laptop is so old it cant boot from usb
[09:08] <bazhang> saleem, check the launchpad PPA search page
[09:08] <boxemall> errors are both the same no matter which medai i try to install from
[09:08] <saleem> im running  Kernel: 3.2.0-33-generic atm
[09:09] <bazhang> saleem, thats the place to search
[09:09] <saleem> thanks bazhang i will check it
[09:10] <lotuspsychje> boxemall:try the openbox login
[09:10] <lotuspsychje> boxemall:maybe run smoother for the old machine
[09:10] <boxemall> how do i boot into openbox?
[09:11] <lotuspsychje> boxemall:logout and choose openbox and type username
[09:11] <boxemall> errm ... as i said i dont get any logins...... if i cant boot from the startmenu (the one presented at startup from cd) i wont be able to do anything....
[09:12] <boxemall> since its not even installed yet i cant select anything. live cd's are sposed to start without login right?
[09:13] <saleem> bazhang, were you referring to this place ? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas
[09:13] <lotuspsychje> boxemall:so never succeeded to install lubuntu in first place?
[09:13] <gidan24> hi
[09:13] <gidan24> dir
[09:13] <gidan24> list
[09:13] <gidan24> list /s
[09:13] <lotuspsychje> !warez | gidan24
[09:14] <bazhang> saleem, looks correct, yes
[09:14] <boxemall> nope as i said :" i am having serious trouble installing the latest lubuntu 12.10 on an old laptop (some compaq model 256 mb ram, 1.1 ghz cpu & enough (5gb+) HDD space) it boots so i can see the desktop but then keeps going on and off beeing stuck in some kind of bootloop. i tried bodhi latest release and it seems to work. any idea what's wrong???"
[09:14] <demonfire> http://brig.co
[09:14] <lotuspsychje> boxemall:what about txt based install?
[09:15] <boxemall> dunno i did not try yet. i thought it would do as the sys meets the min reqs
[09:15] <lotuspsychje> demonfire?
[09:15] <mystblade9> How do I switch to Ubuntu's LightDM and Plymouth themes, after having installed xubuntu-desktop?
[09:15] <mystblade9> And switched back to ubuntu-desktop
[09:15] <boxemall> how do i access text install? do i need the alternate version for that or can i use the 12.10 32bit dtop cd?
[09:15] <lotuspsychje> boxemall:might wanna try alternative iso with lubuntu, and try txt install, not livecd
[09:16] <boxemall> hmm after install using alternate will i have a running dtop or will i be stuck in shell havin to do everything manually?
[09:17] <Calinou> yes
[09:17] <lotuspsychje> boxemall:no txt based install is no seup from scratch, it does everything like regular install
[09:17] <Calinou> this isn't arch 8)
[09:17] <boxemall> lol if it was arch be sure i wouldnt touch ubuntu....
[09:19] <Ltblue> buenass
[09:19] <mystblade9> Ugh, the installation of ubuntu-desktop went wrong because I turned off my computer when it was at the stage where it would ask confirmation for different kinds of things. Now how do I fix this mess?
[09:20] <arunkumar413> hi, i'm trying to use my mobile is usb storage mode. but ubuntu is not mounting it
[09:20] <fego> j #freenode
[09:20] <lotuspsychje> eos:wb
[09:21] <eos> lotuspsychje: I had to reboot
[09:21] <lotuspsychje> eos:did you check f1?
[09:21] <eos> lotuspsychje: not yet I first generated the current bootchart
[09:21] <eos> lotuspsychje: to have a reference
[09:21] <Floy> still cant install a file in ubuntu hays
[09:22] <lotuspsychje> !details | Floy
[09:22] <eos> lotuspsychje: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1309112/
[09:22] <lotuspsychje> eos:paste is wrong just shows png
[09:22] <arunkumar413> hi, i'm trying to use my mobile is usb storage mode. but ubuntu is not mounting it
[09:22] <boxemall> anyone tried ubu mini remix?
[09:23] <eos> lotuspsychje: yes, it should .... bootchart outputs a png in ubuntu
[09:23] <lotuspsychje> !patience | arunkumar413
[09:23] <Floy> vrs.12.4  error can't locate 7Zip
[09:23] <lotuspsychje> eos:try tinypic
[09:23] <eos> lotuspsychje: you have lost me here .... :-)
[09:23] <lotuspsychje> !info 7zip | Floy
[09:23] <lotuspsychje> !rar | Floy
[09:24] <fego> lotuspsychje: it is p7zip
[09:24] <lotuspsychje> eos:pastebin for txt, tinypic for images
[09:24] <fego> !info p7zip
[09:24] <Floy> 9.20cr. and also can't unzip my winrar files
[09:24] <lotuspsychje> fego:tnx
[09:24] <eos> lotuspsychje: tx
[09:24] <fego> np
[09:25] <eos> lotuspsychje: I do not have the tinypic package on my machine .... where is it?
[09:25] <Floy> unaable to locate package
[09:25] <lotuspsychje> eos:tinypic is an image hoster online, to share your image here
[09:25] <fego> Floy: do a sudo apt-get update first
[09:25] <Floy> unaable to locate package
[09:26] <Floy> sec
[09:26] <Floy> failed to fetch
[09:27] <fego> Floy: pastebin the error you are getting
[09:27] <bkboggy> hi guys, i'm trying to try out ubuntu from oracle VM and it says that it's running in 16 bit mode, how do i switch to 32 bit, i can't find the display settings
[09:27] <fego> !patebin | Floy
[09:27] <fego> !pastebin | Floy
[09:27] <Floy> my ubuntu is not online,netbook emachines
[09:28] <Floy> im using  desktop pc to surf
[09:28] <fego> ahhh Floy ,you need to be online for fetching the packages hosted in online repositories
[09:28] <fego> cannot you share the connection ?
[09:28] <Floy> woh damn i dont have th password to d WI-fi
[09:29] <kunji> Wow I'm dumb tonight....  lost my partition table
[09:29] <eos> lotuspsychje: I can send by email or pm?
[09:29] <fego> there are ways for offline package installation
[09:29] <lotuspsychje> eos:pm
[09:29] <fego> but there are messy
[09:29] <Floy> so i can't install it all files i needed to start my project?
[09:30] <Floy> damn i try lan network and top e UTP cable network but nothing happens
[09:30] <fego> Floy: first of all you need a working internet connection
[09:31] <Floy> so how can i active the lan network with my netbook?
[09:32] <Floy> so how can i activte  the lan network with my netbook?
[09:35] <Floy> i want to reformat my netbbok ?
[09:35] <malin> any suggestions on why my laptop does not start unless I have the ac-adapter connected? If last os was win7 I can boot it on battery without ac-adaptor.
[09:36] <lotuspsychje> malin:you have ubuntu installed?
[09:36] <bkboggy> during the ubuntu installation using windows installer.. i see one of the options being installation size, what is that? is that the size of the partition i wish to allocate to ubuntu?
[09:37] <malin> lotuspsychje: yeah. I am running 12.04 (this problem startet on Ubuntu 11.10 as far as I remember, maybe on 11.04
[09:37] <ndawir> ?
[09:37] <ndawir> ping
[09:37] <lotuspsychje> !test | ndawir
[09:38] <malin> bkboggy: installation size is the size of the installation, not the partition, as the win-installer installs Ubuntu in a folder within the windows-install
[09:38] <malin> as far as I know
[09:38] <ndawir> join
[09:39] <ndawir> ^_^
[09:39] <Froward> when i double click a music file, it will open rhythmbox and play. if rhythmbox is already open, nothing happens. I also cannot click and drag files into rhythmbox. are these rhythmbox problems or ubuntu problems?
[09:39] <bkboggy> malin: well, for installation drive i chose my E drive, which is 1.7TB, and then for installation size it lets me pick different options, how come? why doesn't it have a fixed size?
[09:39] <Guest11012> hi all, Im about to do a new install. I have a raid array with all my data on, and another hard disk that I use solely for the os. If I make /home my data partition during install, will it delete my raid array data?
[09:40] <bkboggy> i can choose it to be from 5gb to 30gb
[09:40] <bkboggy> the default is 7
[09:40] <bkboggy> why?
[09:40] <saleem> is 3.5.0-18.29~precise1 the official stable kernel for 12.04?
[09:40] <malin> bkboggy: hm.. to be honest I haven't installed ubuntu with win-installer, but from your description it sounded like installation size and not partition-size.
[09:41] <bkboggy> yeah it's just odd that it lets you choose the size
[09:41] <saleem> from this PP https://launchpad.net/~canonical-kernel-team/+archive/ppa
[09:41] <malin> bkboggy: http://askubuntu.com/questions/136071/is-this-wubi-what-is-installation-size-setting-for
[09:41] <saleem> PPA
[09:42] <bkboggy> thanks malin
[09:42] <malin> bkboggy: I think it should be described in the installation-option what it is for, as it's confusing this way
[09:42] <bkboggy> it is
[09:42] <bkboggy> hopefully they'll fix it
[09:42] <malin> bkboggy: your welcome.
[09:42] <bkboggy> ;)
[09:43] <saleem> i guess no : PPA description
[09:43] <saleem> This ppa is used for building pre-release and test kernels.
[09:43] <saleem> It IS NOT RECOMMENDED that you subscribe to this PPA.
[09:43] <malin> or hm.. I just started to hang here some few days ago :) I regularry hang in #ubuntu-no the channel for the norwegian loco :)
[09:47] <omidvaramdigekas> hello
[09:49] <lotuspsychje> !zeitgeist > lotuspsychje
[09:50] <sary> Is it requried to connect to the internet to install GRUB while installing Ubuntu from the live cd !
[09:51] <ahmad> hi guys can anyone help me please
[09:51] <gordonjcp> !help | ahmad
[09:52] <ahmad> yes sir :)   i issued the command sudo dmidecode and it shows my bios is upgradable i am having some flickering issues with "dim inactive" plugin in compiz i believe its due to bios
[09:53] <wols_> ahmad: BIOS for what?
[09:53] <wols_> you'd need to go to the manufacturer's homepage and see if there is an update. then you'd normally use FreeDOS to flash the new BIOS
[09:54] <kunji> How long does gpart take, just super roughly, for a 250 GB drive?
[09:54] <wols_> kunji: to do what?
[09:54] <kunji> wols_: I accidentally got rid of a partition table...  so gpart, not gparted, I thought gpart only really did one thing.
[09:54] <ahmad> wols_ i tried to go into windows 7 and get the latest bios from it.. version 7HL.. unfortunately its already to the latest version, so I am wondering why dmidecode will say "BIOS is upgradable"
[09:55] <jpmh> I would like to disable the sound system so that someone can not plug in headphones etc on some remote machines I manage under 10.4 - any way to do this from the shell since I have ssh access
[09:56] <wols_> jpmh: unload/blacklist kernel sound modules
[09:56] <wols_> ahmad: it is upgradable, yes. doesn't say there is a new, updated BIOS available, does it?
[09:56] <whatwhat> so why ubuntu going to release something like win 8
[09:57] <jpmh> wols_: ty - but I am new to this - specifically what do I need to enter at the shell
[09:57] <wols_> !blacklist
[09:57] <wols_> jpmh: sndcore should suffice to blacklist
[09:58] <ahmad> wols_ you are right, now that leaves me in another predicament.. curious why my "window area" flicker when i use the "super" button when "dim inactive" plugin from compiz is enabled
[09:59] <jpmh> wols_: again I am being dum I know but the .etc... file does not exist and neither does sndcore
[10:02] <wols_> jpmh: you create the file. and sndcore exists: "lsmod |grep snd"
[10:06] <jpmh> wols_: so if I create the file what do I need in it, or in the case of the sndcore what do I need to do
[10:07] <blackshirt> hello malsasa
[10:07] <rexwin__> how do i install kernel headers package for ubuntu? uname -r shows 2.6.24-24-virtual, i run JEOS ubuntu inside XP.
[10:07] <Malsasa> hello, kang blackshirt :)
[10:07] <blackshirt> aha :d
[10:08] <dr_willis> !headers
[10:08] <Malsasa> blackshirt: have you heard a good news? http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/10/canonical-hire-faenza-designer-to-work-on-new-ubuntu-icon-set
[10:08] <CXIV> usb-creator is making fat32 for ubuntu on pendrive?
[10:08] <CXIV> or ext4?
[10:09] <blackshirt> malsasa, durung pernah
[10:09] <dr_willis> CXIV: fat filesystem
[10:09] <CXIV> dr_willis thank you
[10:10] <dr_willis> CXIV: you can do a full install to ext# if you wanted
[10:11] <wols_> !blacklist | jpmh
[10:11] <wols_> modulename is sndcore
[10:16] <gaetano_> hello everyone
[10:18] <gaetano_> i tried to Install NVIDIA GeForce driver in Ubuntu 12.10 / 12.04 using PPA and i got these problems : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1309180/
[10:20] <jzelez> Hi everyone! I need help with dpkg and apt... can someone help me ?
[10:21] <jzelez> When I try to install a package I get: "dpkg-query: unknown option --control-path"
[10:21] <Guest92278> what is the problem jze?
[10:21] <dr_willis> g
[10:21] <jzelez> this is on an old hardy installation
[10:21] <wols_> jzelez: paste the full output including your command
[10:21] <arunkumar413> hi, i'm trying to use my mobile in  usb storage mode. but ubuntu is not mounting it, please help me to mount it
[10:21] <blackshirt> jzelez, thats a compatible
[10:22] <jzelez> ~# apt-get install -f
[10:22] <jzelez> Reading package lists... Done
[10:22] <jzelez> Building dependency tree
[10:22] <jzelez> Reading state information... Done
[10:22] <jzelez> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[10:22] <FloodBot1> jzelez: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:22] <jzelez> 3 not fully installed or removed.
[10:22] <dr_willis> arunkumar413: what kind of mobile
[10:23] <arunkumar413> dr_willis, its a alcatel lucent
[10:23] <dr_willis> so thays a non smart phone?
[10:23] <arunkumar413> dr_willis, it got detected in 12.04 but recently i upgraded to 12.10
[10:24] <arunkumar413> dr_willis, it's not a smart phone
[10:24] <jzelez> here is the c/p -> http://pastebin.com/eaZ403Fy
[10:25] <DemonWitch> Hey i got a laptop that uses 2 gpus, one integrated shared memory (intel) and one exclusive memory main gpu (nvidia). As a result the ubuntu livecd shows blackscreen. What can i do?
[10:25] <wols_> !optimus
[10:25] <dr_willis> arunkumar413: tried mounting it by hand?
[10:26] <arunkumar413> dr_willis,  no, i checked in /media  but couldn't find the device
[10:26] <dr_willis> !mount
[10:26] <jzelez> wols_: here is the c/p of output -> http://pastebin.com/eaZ403Fy
[10:26] <dr_willis> dmesg command shuld mention the dev name
[10:26] <DemonWitch> wols_, ?
[10:27] <dr_willis> or sudo fdisk -l
[10:27] <arunkumar413> dr_willis, i used the lsusb it detected the device
[10:27] <wols_> DemonWitch: can you disable one of them in BIOS? which one does Xorg try to use when it starts?
[10:27] <bkboggy> hey guys, i just installed ubuntu, pretty slick, is there a way to make text larger? it's very small in this IRC chat and on web pages
[10:27] <dr_willis> be sure the phon
[10:29] <DemonWitch> Hey i got a laptop that uses 2 gpus, one integrated shared memory (intel) and one exclusive memory main gpu (nvidia). As a result the ubuntu livecd shows blackscreen. What can i do?
[10:29] <arunkumar413> dr_willis, here is the output of fdisk -l http://pastebin.com/4eT4eewJ
[10:30] <COMECON> Hiya
[10:30] <bkboggy> where do i find settings to make text larger
[10:30] <bkboggy> i can barrel read webpages and this irc
[10:30] <arunkumar413> dr_willis, the device is of mediatek
[10:31] <wols_> arunkumar413: your mobile is not shown in fdisk. it doesn't act as a mass storage device. what mobile is it exactly?
[10:31] <arunkumar413> wols_, its a alcaltel 520d one touch
[10:31] <jzelez> Can anyone help me with apg-get/dpkg related problem (hardy)? Output of apt-get: http://pastebin.com/eaZ403Fy
[10:31] <dr_willis> arunkumar413: it sees only an sda looks like. the phone is not being seen as a usb storage device it s|ems
[10:31] <wols_> arunkumar413: check your dmesg output
[10:32] <fego> jzelez: hardy is not supported anymore
[10:32] <fego> see /topic
[10:33] <jzelez> fego: i know, but it's a production system, and I'm trying to do an upgrade, but can't because of this errors :(
[10:33] <wols_> jzelez: hardy is not really supported anymore, it's EOL. dpkg-query is outdated for you it seems. what does "dpkg -l dpkg|tail -1" say?
[10:33] <arunkumar413> dr_willis, wols_  here is the output of dmesg http://pastebin.com/brNwgLZr
[10:33] <jzelez> wols_: ii  dpkg                                  1.14.16.6ubuntu4.2                  package maintenance system for Debian
[10:34] <dr_willis> upgradeing a hardy box
[10:34] <dr_willis> ..scary..
[10:35] <jzelez> dr_willis: i know... :(
[10:35] <SarcasMo> Is someone willing to help with the following? When I open terminal I can't cd, even if the map is there the terminal says that the directory doesn't exist.
[10:35] <codefyre> bkboggy: install gnome-tweak-tool, from there you can change system wide fonts
[10:36] <dr_willis> SarcasMo: what directiry? whatt does ls -l show about the directory?
[10:36] <fego> do a "ls" and then check correct dorectory name or even use "find"
[10:36] <jzelez> I tried installing older/newer version of some packages manually via "dpkg -i xxx.deb", but they too would error out with the same message. Does anyone have an idea what did go wrong?
[10:36] <wols_> SarcasMo: what does "pwd" show? what does "cd /bin" do?
[10:37] <fego> jzelez: you cannot upgrade the release by installing latest packages offline
[10:37] <bkboggy> codefy, thanks, i just did it through System Settings > Universal Access > Font Size
[10:37] <SarcasMo> dr_willis: ls -l shows drwxr-xr-x
[10:37] <wols_> jzelez: yes, your tries to "fix" went wrong. we'd need the first error that happened. now you have tried many many different things where none worked and made it worse to boot
[10:38] <SarcasMo> wols_: I don't know what that is :p
[10:38] <SarcasMo> wols_: cd /bin works
[10:38] <wols_> SarcasMo: those are explicitly written down commands
[10:38] <wols_> SarcasMo: then what doesn't work exactly?
[10:38] <SarcasMo> dr_willis: wols_ it works lol, I forgot the slash x)
[10:38] <liquidstone> guys my eth0 connection disappeared
[10:38] <DemonWitch> Hey i got a laptop that uses 2 gpus, one integrated shared memory (intel) and one exclusive memory main gpu (nvidia). As a result the livecd shows blackscreen. What can i do?
[10:38] <SarcasMo> thanks guys :)
[10:39] <liquidstone> why does that happen
[10:39] <wols_> DemonWitch: I already told you what you can do, but you ignored me
[10:39] <wols_> liquidstone: sudo ifconfig -a
[10:39] <DemonWitch> wols_, yes disable the one gpu
[10:39] <DemonWitch> wols_, and then i wont be able to use both
[10:39] <dr_willis> DemonWitch: check out the optimus/bumblebee ubuntu wiki pages yet?
[10:39] <jzelez> wols_: first command i tried was "sudo aptitude safe-upgrade": complete output here -> http://pastebin.com/PRp0qgdv
[10:39] <DemonWitch> dr_willis, link me please
[10:40] <dr_willis> DemonWitch: no idea. id have to google...
[10:40] <liquidstone> wols_: ok now i have internet, but 5 minutes ago eth0 disappeared
[10:40] <jzelez_> sorry my router reconnected :)
[10:40] <dr_willis> ubottu:  seems slow today
[10:40] <jzelez_> wols_: first command i tried was "sudo aptitude safe-upgrade": complete output here -> http://pastebin.com/PRp0qgdv
[10:40] <DemonWitch> !bumblebee
[10:40] <dr_willis> !bumblebee
[10:41] <wols_> jzelez_: so you run hardy and tried to upgrade to natty directly?
[10:41] <dr_willis> !optimus
[10:41] <fego> she needs some rest i guess
[10:41] <arunkumar413> dr_willis,  sorry i lost the connection, did  u see the dmesg
[10:42] <wols_> arunkumar413: try to mount /dev/sdb1 somewhere. your kernel recognizes it
[10:42] <arunkumar413> wols_, how to moount
[10:42] <jzelez_> wols_: that's the strange thing, i didn't tell him to upgrade to natty, i thoght it would upgrade to lucid. I was following this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LucidUpgrades
[10:42] <dr_willis> !mount | arunkumar413
[10:43] <dr_willis> arunkumar413: you are sure the phone us in usb storage mode?
[10:43] <arunkumar413> dr_willis, yes
[10:43] <wols_> jzelez_: cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:43] <jzelez_> wols_: is there a way to reverse the changes somehow, and leave it on hardy ?
[10:44] <wols_> jzelez_: no
[10:44] <wols_> jzelez_: you can, if you know your stuff manually upgrade to natty. e.g. unpack a new dpkg which has the needed parameters like --control-path, etc
[10:45] <wols_> byou could downgrade too of course but that's usually as much or more work than doing everything manually and has about the same chance of success
[10:46] <arunkumar413> wols_, i tried to mount it says sdb1 doesn't exist
[10:46] <bkboggy> man, linux has come a long way
[10:46] <bkboggy> i like it
[10:46] <wols_> arunkumar413: fdisk -l /dev/sdd then
[10:46] <wols_> arunkumar413: sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdd
[10:47] <jzelez_> wols_: here is the output: http://pastebin.com/pXaUeFGj   - don't know what exact state it was when i started - i commented out some of the repositories when i tried to solve the situtation
[10:47] <guang_> i want run a program,sometimes i must run "./myprogram",not "myprogram" directly.But sometimes "myprogram" also works,why?
[10:47] <arunkumar413> wols_, ok did, nothing happened
[10:47] <jzelez_> wols_: i think that a newer dpkg would fix all the problems... should i try to download the .deb (and dependencies) and install ?
[10:48] <wols_> jzelez_: you can try. but it probably cannot simply "install"
[10:48] <jzelez_> wols_: so what steps do you suggest ?
[10:50] <jrib> guang_: you need to say what the "sometimes" are exactly.  "myprogram" will only work if "myprogram" can be found in your PATH
[10:51] <arunkumar413> wols_, uesd the command sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdd but nothing happened
[10:51] <wols_> jzelez_: I suggest you remove apache and php5 and all it entails. those are the programs which cause you pain it seems. then look at your sources.list very hard and decide where you want to go
[10:52] <wols_> arunkumar413: ls -l /dev/sd*   anything besides /dev/sda* there?
[10:53] <jzelez_> wols_: the main thing that troubles me is that update-grub cannot finish its thing. i saw it was trigger with initial upgrade, but it couldn't (and still can't) install any of the linux-image packages. Ultimately what I want is to upgrade everything to Lucid.
[10:53] <jzelez_> wols_: so the steps for that are to update sources.list with lucid repos and do the upgrade ?
[10:53] <arunkumar413> wols_, sda and sdb
[10:53] <arunkumar413> wols_, http://pastebin.com/0pPZVMrx
[10:54] <blackshirt> jzelez_, maybe you want to use quantal sources.list
[10:54] <wols_> blackshirt: no he does not
[10:54] <wols_> jzelez_: please ignore blackshirt
[10:54] <blackshirt> wols_, oh, sorry,
[10:54] <wols_> jzelez_: you can try yes. so far it seems your dpkg is from hardy, so it _should_ work
[10:55] <blackshirt> wols_, i don't know he would stick on lucid :d
[10:55] <jzelez_> wols_: ok. thanks... i'll try now...
[10:56] <arunkumar413> wols_, when i switch off the phone and connect its detecting as sdb but when the phone is switched on its not showing
[10:59] <wols_> arunkumar413: use a hex viewer to check if /dev/sdb is a partitiontable, or to check what it is at all, is all I can think of right now
[10:59] <wols_> it doesn't look like something linux can recognize
[11:03] <savio> hello
[11:03] <TheRam> I have an old MacBook (1,1, Tiger) floating around which I would like to duel boot with Ubuntu, anyone know off the top of your head the easiest way to do this?
[11:03] <LuvLinuxOS> hi all
[11:04] <MonkeyDust> !mac > TheRam start here
[11:05] <nikhil_15> Hey  all  .. how is Ubuntu 12.10 with gnome doing ?
[11:05] <dr_willis_> nikhil_15:  thats a little... vague...
[11:05] <MonkeyDust> nikhil_15  i'm happy with it, ok
[11:06] <nikhil_15> :)
[11:07] <slimo> Has anyone probem to start apache2 after upgrade to 12.10?
[11:07] <nikhil_15> User  themes makes me stuck on 12.10 !!
[11:07] <wols_> !details | slimo
[11:07] <dr_willis_> themes are so 2008ish... ;)
[11:08] <nikhil_15> yeah :)
[11:08] <arunkumar413> my mobile can be connected to computer in webcam mode also. is there any app in ubuntu that recognizes my mobile in webcam mode
[11:08] <dr_willis_> arunkumar413:  if its supported , cheese should work with it.
[11:09] <dr_willis_> webcams seem to either work... or are totally unsupported. ;)
[11:10] <MonkeyDust> my canon scanner is not supported
[11:10] <dr_willis_> canon is on my list of companies to not buy any more.. their linux support is.. well.. lacking. ;P
[11:10] <MonkeyDust> dr_willis_  it's about 100 years old
[11:10] <dr_willis_> even on their 'supported' devices.. ive had major issues.
[11:11] <nikhil_15> dell is doing great with linux
[11:13] <savio> i'm trying to remove zip package from my system i have installed p7zip as alternative to zip but when i issue apt-get remove zip it also removes ubuntu-desktop package
[11:13] <savio> need help? how to avoid this?
[11:14] <arunkumar413> dr_willis, ok i'm able to use my mobile in webcam mode. but it  not not mounting when i connect in mass storage mode
[11:14] <dr_willis_> arunkumar413:  unplug it. change mode, plug it back in? are you doing it that way?
[11:15] <arunkumar413> dr_willis, yes,
[11:15] <codefyre> savio: sudo dpkg --remove zip
[11:15] <dr_willis_> savio:  why do you need to remove zip?
[11:16] <dr_willis_> ubuntu-desktop is a meta-package. if you remove any of the packages it depends on it will get 'removed' also. but that wont really affect anything.
[11:16] <savio> dr_willis, i have p7zip so i was thinking zip is no longer used
[11:16] <dr_willis_> savio:  i would just leave zip alone.
[11:16] <dr_willis_> p7zip does not replace the 'zip' command as far as i know.
[11:16] <ysyk> but other soft could use zip
[11:17] <karthick87> Is there a way to find the event, if any users put their mobile phones on charge in the USB ports??
[11:17] <savio> dr_willis, p7zip is like alternative to zip no?
[11:17] <dr_willis_> savio:  it has a similer feature set.. same as rar and other archivers.. but it does NOT replace the 'zip' binary with its own named 'zip'
[11:17] <dr_willis_> so i would leave it alone..
[11:18] <dr_willis_> the zip package also includes other tools i imagine
[11:18] <dr_willis_>  zip       zipcloak  zipgrep   zipinfo   zipnote   zipsplit
[11:19] <savio> dr_willis, thanks for help
[11:20] <arunkumar413> dr_willis,  what is the solution to this problem
[11:20] <savio> so which one give good result zip or p7zip
[11:20] <dr_willis_> i imagine for the 'zip' format with the same settings, they should be identical.
[11:20] <dr_willis_> using the 7zip's compression MAY or may not givbe better results - depnding on the data and the options
[11:20] <dr_willis_> same could be said for any archiver.
[11:20] <savio> great
[11:21] <dr_willis_> the main feature of 7zip is the 7zips compression methods. ;)
[11:21] <dr_willis_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7-Zip
[11:27] <bkboggy> I'm trying to compile a program in Code::Blocks IDE and when the console window comes up it says "sh: 1:" path of the file "Permission denied"
[11:27] <bkboggy> why?
[11:27] <dr_willis_> hmm.. if you press and hold the super key - the keybord shortcuts show up  in 12.10 correct? it dosent seem to work here.
[11:27] <dr_willis_> aha.. keyboards 'gameing' switch was on. disabling that key. ;) kids must have played with it.
[11:28] <blackshirt> bkboggy, are you working on your home dir ?
[11:28] <bkboggy> yes
[11:28] <bkboggy> /home/my user name/Documents/C++/test
[11:29] <dr_willis_> Your username has spaces in it? ;)
[11:29] <blackshirt> bkboggy, was you permission setup correctly ? I have no play a bit with codeblock
[11:29] <bkboggy> no, i didn't want to type it in, dr_willis
[11:29] <blackshirt> your
[11:30] <dr_willis_> ;)  wonder if the ++ in the path/name is confuseing things.
[11:30] <bkboggy> i have to setup persmission within codeblock?
[11:30] <blackshirt> no
[11:30] <blackshirt> i don't think so
[11:30] <dr_willis_> been fighting with some weird name/characters all week on a hard disk.
[11:31] <bkboggy> dr_willis  i saved it in a folder without spaces or special characters and it's the same result
[11:31] <nikhil_15> try sudo before compiling
[11:31] <bkboggy> ?
[11:32] <blackshirt> bkboggy, is your all folder/files on your codeblock working dir was your  own
[11:32] <blackshirt> ?
[11:33] <bkboggy> i'm signed in as admin and there are no other accounts
[11:34] <wols_> bkboggy: that's not possible. there is only one "admin" account in ubuntu which is root. and you cannot sign it with it normally
[11:34] <nikhil_15> bkboggy  if your compiling your prog  in terminal then try sudo before your command
[11:35] <dr_willis_> perhaps its codeblocks making some temp file for 'sh' to run. thats having the issues..
[11:35] <bkboggy> i'm compiling it out of Code::Blocks IDEA
[11:35] <bkboggy> IDE*
[11:35] <nikhil_15> ok
[11:35] <blackshirt> nikhil_15, he working on codeblocks ide
[11:35] <bkboggy> well, i went into my accounts and it shows just my account as Administrator
[11:35] <dr_willis_> like if the /tmp/ dir was unwriteable.
[11:35] <nikhil_15> ok
[11:36] <blackshirt> bkboggy, are you sit on windows os ?
[11:36] <bkboggy> yes
[11:36] <bkboggy> XP, used windows installer to install Ubuntu
[11:36] <bkboggy> booted from Ubuntu
[11:36] <blackshirt> oh no
[11:36] <blackshirt> !ot
[11:37] <bkboggy> ?
[11:37] <bkboggy> does it try to save it under temp in windows directory and then can't access it from ubuntu workspace?
[11:37] <wols_> bkboggy: what are the file permissions of your compiled executable?
[11:37] <scorpions> hi
[11:37] <bkboggy> umm, I don't know wols
[11:38] <OpenSorce> Is there no wubi support channel?
[11:39] <Moroccan> Hello I have a problem !
[11:41] <fego> Moroccan: fire away :)
[11:41] <wols_> bkboggy: then check. with "ls -l" for example
[11:41] <bkboggy> i'm not sure what you mean wols
[11:41] <Moroccan> I download ubuntu 12.10 However I notice that I was downloading ubuntu for AMD ( ubuntu-12.10-desktop-amd64.iso ) - I have Intel 64 - so I was looking for Ubuntu 12.10 for Intel 64 And I did not found anything
[11:41] <bkboggy> for my "Shell to run commands in:" option it says /bin/sh -c
[11:41] <wols_> you created an exectuable file. what is it's name?
[11:41] <Moroccan> sorry of my bad English :(
[11:41] <Chotaz> How can I start applications on startup? Also is it possible to start them on a specific workspace?
[11:41] <bkboggy> and Terminal to launch console programs is xterm -T $TITLE -e
[11:42] <bkboggy> wols   test
[11:42] <OpenSorce> Is there a support channel for Wubi? (the windows ubuntu installer)
[11:42] <wols_> Moroccan: you got the right ISO. AMD invented that 64bit CPU instruction set
[11:42] <fego> Moroccan: the downloaded iso is for 64 bit :)
[11:42] <wols_> bkboggy: go to the directory (in a terminal) and check the file permissions of test
[11:42] <wols_> !wubi
[11:43] <wols_> OpenSorce: afaik no. you can ask here, but people are very reluctant to support wubi
[11:43] <Moroccan> wols_:  fego  Ok thank you somuch for your help ^^
[11:43] <OpenSorce> Of course they are... sadly it's my only install option
[11:43] <bkboggy> wols, I've no idea how to do that, it's my first few hours using linux
[11:43] <fego> Moroccan: for some historic reasons AMDs name is attached with 64 bit technology
[11:44] <fego> Moroccan: you are welcome
[11:44] <wols_> OpenSorce: why not just state your problem?
[11:44] <wols_> `/lastlog OpenSorce
[11:44] <Moroccan> So it's possible to install ubuntu for AMD 64 in Intel 64
[11:44] <wols_> Moroccan: yes
[11:44] <doomlord> amd64 was original 64bit x86 extention ?
[11:44] <Moroccan> Ok thank you again
[11:44] <Moroccan> Have a nice day ^^
[11:44] <doomlord> then intel cloned amds 64bit extentions?
[11:44] <blackshirt> good luck
[11:45] <fego> Moroccan: the "AMD" keyword does not mean it is for amd CPUs it can be installed on intel ones
[11:45] <OpenSorce> Okay, Wubi gets to the end of a two hour download and install process, says it can't find needed files and I have to start all over again.
[11:45] <MonkeyDust> OpenSorce  one more reason to not use wubi
[11:45] <OpenSorce> No choice, I said that already didn't I?
[11:46] <bkboggy> I figured out the issue
[11:46] <blackshirt> opensorce, maybe better you sit on virtual box solutions
[11:46] <wols_> OpenSorce: WHICH files. what error message, etc
[11:46] <bkboggy> i was saving file without .cpp extension since i was used to Dev-C++ doing it for me on Windows platform
[11:46] <bkboggy> so i saved it as test.cpp and compiled it again
[11:46] <bkboggy> it ran just fine
[11:46] <OpenSorce> Old tablet pc, trying to put Lubuntu on it, no external drives will not boot from usb drive... dunno the exact error, give me two more hours and we'll see :-P
[11:47] <blackshirt> opensorce, thats bad thing :d
[11:48] <OpenSorce> Bad thing is it insists on redownloading the .iso with no options to try and use what it already downloaded last time
[11:48] <blackshirt> wubi relies on windows filesystem, thats one reason why wubi not great solutions :d
[11:48] <dr_willis_> download the iso file beforhand, or find wubis download of it.. verify the iso OpenSorce
[11:49] <OpenSorce> Oh wait... you mean this thing installs like winlinux used to?
[11:49] <fego> bkboggy: FYI linux only cares about file contents and not file extensions,
[11:49] <dr_willis_> the iso needs to be in the same directory as the wubiinstaller.exe i recall. could just put both on the c:
[11:49] <OpenSorce> So it doesn't do partioning and such?
[11:50] <wols_> OpenSorce: repartition your hdd, shrink your windows partition
[11:50] <MonkeyDust> backup first!
[11:50] <bkboggy> fego: for some odd reason it wasn't compiling it without the .cpp extension, my guess it's on the Code::Block end
[11:50] <bkboggy> ]
[11:50] <wols_> then set up virtualbox and make it use the disk directly and install ubuntu under vbox but on the real hdd
[11:50] <bkboggy> the executable itself doesn't have .exe as per Linux
[11:51] <wols_> bkboggy: it never does. file extensions under linux are pretty meaningless
[11:51] <OpenSorce> That would be a great solution... if virtualbox ran on this old tablet :-)
[11:52] <wols_> it does
[11:52] <wols_> what cpu does it have?
[11:52] <OpenSorce> TC5800
[11:52] <OpenSorce> Tranmeta Crusoe 5800
[11:52] <bkboggy> yeah, I figured, like Mac OS
[11:53] <Chotaz`> How can I start some applications on Ubuntu startup and asign them to specific workspaces?
[11:53] <bkboggy> Chotaz: open workspace switcher and drag windows to where you want
[11:54] <OpenSorce> *Transmeta
[11:54] <Chotaz`> bkboggy, I know I can drag them to the workspaces, what I'm trying t achieve right now is starting some applications on startup like xchat and skype and deluge
[11:54] <bkboggy> ah
[11:54] <bkboggy> on startup
[11:55] <bkboggy> sorry, i don't know then
[11:55] <Chotaz`> bkboggy, no problem, thanks for the tip!
[11:55] <Chotaz`> I have two questions right now, how can I start some application on startup(xchat, skype and deluge) and is is possible to automatically asign them to specific workspaces?
[11:56] <OpenSorce> Okay, let me start from scratch here... if you had an old tablet with no external drives and no usb booting ability, how would you install Linux on it?
[11:56] <bkboggy> OpenSorce, do you have an internet connectivity?
[11:56] <dr_willis_> an ARM based tablet?
[11:57] <OpenSorce> bkboogy, yes
[11:57] <dr_willis_> transmeta tablet? Golly.. not heard transmeta mentioned in ages. ;)
[11:57] <OpenSorce> dr_willis_ Transmeta Crusoe TC5800 proc
[11:57] <OpenSorce> That's just it... can't have hardware that Linux himself helped design running windows!
[11:58] <OpenSorce> *Linus
[11:58] <dr_willis_> Im not sure how proud he is of his transmeta work. ;)
[11:58] <dr_willis_> it was a neat idea. but never seemed to work wekk.
[11:58] <OpenSorce> None of us are proud of it... but it's still his work :-P
[11:58] <dr_willis_> if i recall my pc history...
[11:59] <dr_willis_> remove the hd. install os to it from another pc.. put hd back.. perhaps.
[11:59] <dr_willis_> unless it can netboot
[11:59] <wols_> OpenSorce: I just told you one way (another would be removing the mass storage)
[11:59] <OpenSorce> Hmmm... it may be able to netboot
[11:59] <wols_> and your transmeta CPU can run virtualbox
[12:00] <wols_> another way is goodbye-microsoft.com (debian, tho one could get to ubuntu as well)
[12:00] <OpenSorce> Sorry wols_ I must have missed that... oh the virtualbox thing? No it won't run on this tablet
[12:00] <wols_> OpenSorce: how do you know?
[12:00] <Yeti_69> !fr
[12:00] <OpenSorce> Because I've tried several times?
[12:00] <wols_> OpenSorce: and the error was?
[12:01] <OpenSorce> It won't even install
[12:01] <OpenSorce> I don't recall
[12:01] <bkboggy> is it x86 hardware?
[12:01] <wols_> bkboggy: yes it is
[12:01] <OpenSorce> VMWare wouldn't install either
[12:01] <bkboggy> hmm
[12:02] <pipozzo> buongiorno
[12:02] <pipozzo> !list
[12:02] <gaetano_>  this is the error  i got about software center: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1309348/  anyone knows what is it!?
[12:02] <bkboggy> is there a way to create shortcuts for workspaces instead of using workspace switch? or maybe some sort of shortcut to switch between them
[12:03] <OpenSorce> But now, did I understand you guys correctly... is wubi going to install Linux on a FAT32 partition like WinLinux used to?
[12:03] <dr_willis_> bkboggy:  you mean keyboard shortcuts?
[12:03] <dr_willis_> press hold super key - to see list of keyboard shortcuts
[12:03] <OpenSorce> bkboggy alt-tab works doesn't it?
[12:03] <OpenSorce> I know it does in KDE
[12:03] <bkboggy> alt+tab switches between apps
[12:03] <bkboggy> what's a super key?
[12:04] <OpenSorce> Sorry... been up all night
[12:04] <bkboggy> it's k
[12:04] <wols_> OpenSorce: no. wubi creates a BIG file on the windows partition. and inside this file is your whole lubuntu
[12:04] <dr_willis_> the superkey is often branded the windows key...
[12:04] <bkboggy> lol, gotcha
[12:04] <bkboggy> thank you
[12:04] <bkboggy> ;)
[12:04] <gaetano_> and this other one: .what Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". means?
[12:05] <bkboggy> can't run from microsoft, they're labeled every where
[12:05] <OpenSorce> Oh dear god... That's not even Linux. Nevermind, there has to be a better way to do it
[12:05] <dr_willis_> windows 8 i guess has some OTHER new key also.. the super-duper-key?
[12:05] <bkboggy> lol
[12:06] <OpenSorce> And Ubuntu actually advertises something like this on thier website? Wow.
[12:06] <dr_willis_> like what?
[12:06] <bkboggy> i like Ubuntu, reminds me of my Nexus 7
[12:06] <arunkumar413> dr_willis_, its mounting once and unmounting
[12:07] <dr_willis_> bkboggy:  seen some demo videos of ubuntu running on a Nexus7 today
[12:07] <bkboggy> oh, i use the android os on it
[12:07] <OpenSorce> Like Wubi
[12:08] <dr_willis_> i dont think wubi is included by default on the 12.10 disk any more - its always been sort of a  fringe thing. ;)
[12:09] <dr_willis_> Im suprised it hasent been phased out yet. but i guess with pc makers doing the dirty tricks of using 4 primary partitons by default on many setups - its a ok way to test..
[12:09] <OpenSorce> Nah, if you click download on the Ubuntu website it's like the 3rd option
[12:10] <OpenSorce> I thought I was going to get partitioning and an ext3 filesystem and such
[12:11] <dr_willis_> if you are going to partion, then you really dont gain anything by using wubi.
[12:11] <OpenSorce> I doubt this machine even has fdisk or any way to get to it. It's got to be possible, I'll figure it out. Thanks for your time guys.
[12:11] <dr_willis_> the main feature of wubi is not needing to repartiion, and easy to remove. ;)
[12:11] <yatta> hello
[12:13] <arunkumar413> ubuntu not detecting and mounting my mobile in mass storage mode. please help
[12:13] <bkboggy> is there a way to add workspaces, or is it maxed out at 4 for performance reasons?
[12:14] <Guest89157> live ubuntu from usb restarts while in use. what could cause such behavior?
[12:14] <wastrel> bkboggy: you can use ccsm to add more, in the general settings
[12:15] <dr_willis_> it has to be a square layout i recall.. bkboggy
[12:15] <dr_willis_> 3x3 4x4 or whatever
[12:15] <bkboggy> wastrel: where would I find it exactly, i can't seem to locate it in System Settings
[12:16] <wastrel> bkboggy: it's not in system settings it's in the "compiz config settings manager" ccsm
[12:16] <wastrel> bkboggy: you will need to install it
[12:16] <bkboggy> oh, so it's something i have to download?
[12:16] <sophos> Ubuntu is running slow again on my Dual Core PC. It takes seconds to start loading an application. Sometimes it doesnt even open it, instead I have to kill it manually. Is there any good way to speed it up?
[12:16] <wastrel> bkboggy: you can find it in the software center
[12:16] <bkboggy> thank you wastrel and dr_willis
[12:17] <MonkeyDust> bkboggy  some programs were left out from the .iso to keep it small enough, ccsm is among the left out packages
[12:17] <bkboggy> MonkeyDust: makes sense, thank you
[12:18] <Guest89157> same with live cd when I try to run certain applications just restarts
[12:18] <arunkumar413> ubuntu not detecting and mounting my mobile in mass storage mode. please help
[12:18] <Chotaz> How can I set specific application to open to certain workspaces?
[12:18] <bkboggy> is it called CompizConfig Settings Manager under app store?
[12:19] <dr_willis_> !ccsm | bkboggy
[12:19] <dr_willis_> sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[12:19] <wastrel> Chotaz: if you find out let me know
[12:19] <dr_willis_> faster then using the siftware center
[12:19] <bkboggy> thanks
[12:19] <dr_willis_> Chotaz:  compiz/ccsm has a pluging for rules for that.. or you can use devilspie
[12:20] <arunkumar413> dr_willis_, now tried to mount the sdb device but it the error is /dev/sdb is not a valid block device
[12:21] <dr_willis_> arunkumar413:  most likely it would be /dev/sdb1 not just 'sdb'
[12:21] <dr_willis_> arunkumar413:  sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb would show/verify if its sdb1 or not
[12:21] <sophos> !help
[12:22] <sophos> !patience
[12:22] <arunkumar413> dr_willis_, no its not show/verify anything
[12:22] <MonkeyDust> sophos  please use /msg ubottu
[12:22] <sophos> ok mr monk
[12:24] <Kvaks> Is the current "Disks" utility a much crippled version of the old gnome-disk-utilily? I'm using it in Kubuntu, and it looks like crap, with much less apparant features.
[12:25] <Kvaks> I might be wrong.
[12:25] <arunkumar413> dr_willis_, there are also some devices like sg0 and sg1, what r these devices
[12:25] <dr_willis_> arunkumar413:  every device on the system has an entry in /dev/ normally. if your phone is not showing up as a /dev/sdXX then thats the core of the issue.
[12:26] <compdoc> Kvaks, gnome disk util works well and has full features in Ubuntu
[12:26] <dr_willis_> arunkumar413:  when you plug in a usb device normally dmesg shows some info at the end. and mentions its /dev/sdXX name
[12:26] <nicofs> When installing ubuntu, what do I select for "Device for boot loader installation"? I installed 4 times now and all I ever get is "grub error: no such partition" or ": no such file"...
[12:26] <bkboggy> mkay, so.... I just got another issue, I was annoyed that it was asking me password to install and change everything single thing, so I went into User Accounts and got rid of the password.  Now when I try to change Account Settings or install anything it asks for password... which since I don't have it fails to authenticate, leaving it blank does the same thing
[12:27] <dr_willis_> nicofs:  the bootloader goes on the mbr of the hd you are installing to normally. ie:  'sda' for most single hd systems
[12:27] <dr_willis_> nicofs:  if you are installing to a 2nd hd. or a usb. it might need to be sdb or sdc
[12:27] <nicofs> dr_willis_, that's what I did... sda - and that's where it boots from.
[12:28] <Nicktendo64> Hello, i'm trying to update my Nvidia drivers to the latest and the installer wants me to kill x, but when i kill x it redscreens.
[12:28] <dr_willis_> Nicktendo64:   its normally better to use the drivers in the repos, then the updated nvidia driver ppa's and if all else fails the nvida sites .run driver which You run from the console, after you close X. (sudo service lightdm stop)
[12:29] <dr_willis_> use of the .run drivers is very much an 'you are on your own' sort of thing. ;() and may not work
[12:29] <Nicktendo64> i'm using the drivers on the repo and its an old version
[12:29] <dr_willis_> Nicktendo64:  so? do they work?  is there some major issue?
[12:29] <Nicktendo64> i know how to kill lightdm
[12:30] <Nicktendo64> but when i do it redscreens
[12:30] <dr_willis_> the framebuffer console may goof up the console. the 'nofb' option or booting usign the 'text' option may work around any framebuffer issues.
[12:30]  * dr_willis_ is guessing what 'redscreens' means...
[12:30] <dr_willis_> !text
[12:30] <arunkumar413> dr_willis_, here is the dmseg output. It contains the sdb information http://pastebin.com/pPcXfxg9
[12:31] <heroandtn3> sudo service lightdm stop
[12:31] <Nicktendo64> so, what was this 'ppa' thing you were talking about?
[12:31] <Nicktendo64> is that a better option than using the .run?
[12:32] <Nicktendo64> also, i'm assuming 12.04 uses grub2 by default
[12:33] <dr_willis_> grub2 has been the default for the last several releases
[12:33] <dr_willis_> arunkumar413:  those error messages im seeing in dmesg output do not look good. but i havent trouble shot bad hardware enough to know which ones are really critical.
[12:33] <dr_willis_>  6465.202284] sd 17:0:0:0: >[sdb]
[12:33] <dr_willis_> [ 6465.202286] Sense Key : Hardware Error [current]
[12:33] <Nicktendo64> !ppa
[12:33] <dr_willis_> that dosent look good
[12:34] <dr_willis_> Unless theres some major pressing issue that you need the latest nvidia drivers.. its best to stick with whats in the repos.
[12:34] <bkboggy> i don't get it, my authentication fails, and i use the same password i did before
[12:34] <dr_willis_> since thats basically the only one thats officially supported by this channel.
[12:35] <bkboggy> i disabled password in login options, but now i can't even unlock that
[12:35] <wakemecn> hello buddy
[12:35] <wakemecn> new guys from  China, fobbidden by GFW
[12:36] <doomlord> anyone used cinammon under ubuntu, i just tried adding those ppas but it isnt co-operating
[12:36] <wakemecn> haha
[12:36] <Nicktendo64> cinammon looks fancy
[12:37] <nicofs> After a fresh installation I get "grub error: no such partition" - what can I do about that?
[12:37] <Bustacap> What is the package I install for a game controller to work?
[12:37] <marcus> any1 know how to make drive D: in dosdevices an "usable drive"? (its USB 8GB storage)
[12:38] <nicofs> I'm using ubuntu since 5.10 and the installation routine has never let me down so far...
[12:39] <Nicktendo64> dr_willis_: is https://launchpad.net/~morgancoxuk/+archive/latest-nvidia-12.04 a good source for the latest drivers?
[12:39] <Nicktendo64> or am i better off just using the official nvidia .run
[12:40] <dr_willis_> ones from the default repos, ppa's. then all else fails.. .run drivers
[12:40] <dr_willis_> I use the ones from the default repos..
[12:41] <dr_willis_> Unless theres some major pressing issue that you need the latest nvidia drivers.. its best to stick with whats in the repos.
[12:41] <dgz> hey guys. I am having trouble installing 12.10 64 on a vaio ultrabook. It boots from live USB image and I have already formatted both the HDD and SSD to ext4 but Ubuntu's install app doesn't seem to "see" my drives. Never seen such issue before. Any help?
[12:41] <marcus> any1 know how to make drive D: USB Storage in dosdevices an "usable drive", for pendrivelinux?
[12:42] <benhuan> check your bios
[12:43] <Nicktendo64> i'd like to be on the latest drivers because this is around the time valve is pushing amd/nvidia to make their drivers better, and my 3d performance is a bit sluggish even on a 660 ti (i actually think it was faster with my older gts 450)
[12:44] <bartje> hi all
[12:44] <dr_willis_> using the .run drivers can break your system. use of the ppa at least would be easier to remove if they break things
[12:45] <dgz> hey guys. I am having trouble installing 12.10 64 on a vaio ultrabook. It boots from live USB image and I have already formatted both the HDD and SSD to ext4 but Ubuntu's install app doesn't seem to "see" my drives. Never seen such issue before. Any help?
[12:45] <dgz> The install setup only sees my USB flash driver and the SD card :(
[12:45] <dgz> yet, HDD and SSD are mounted!
[12:46] <dgz> any workaround, i dont mind CLI
[12:46] <Nicktendo64> there's a lot of nvidia stuff in the ppa's, i dont really know what to choose
[12:48] <Nicktendo64> am i able to roll back to the ubuntu packages if the .run fails?
[12:50] <Habermas> @Nicktendo64 I don't know :D
[12:50] <Habermas> haha
[12:50] <Habermas> i'm funny
[12:50] <nicofs> I can't install ubuntu. all I get is "grub error: no such partition" - please help!
[12:51] <bartje> @nicofs: fresh install?
[12:52] <nicofs> bartje, yes. 6th now. none working so far.
[12:52] <nicofs> bartje, done with trial&error - now i need help...
[12:53] <bartje> ow, weird, did you format the drive on install?
[12:53] <Steve^> dgz, how can they be mounted if it can't see them
[12:53] <nicofs> bartje, yes. to that: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1309475/ with fstab: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1309498/
[12:53] <natsu> )hey
[12:54] <nicofs> bartje, hang on - do i need to set the boot flag for sda(1)?
[12:55] <IdleOne> *!*@46.165.208.13
[12:55] <IdleOne> *!*@58.230.61.86
[12:55] <IdleOne> *!*@c-67-160-14-227.hsd1.wa.comcast.net
[12:55] <FloodBot1> IdleOne: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:55] <bartje> well, I'm not an expert at it at all, I just let it run automatically... rarely format it manually.. but I do think so, if that's the drive you're booting on
[12:55] <sUiCiDaL_pOeT> hello everyone.. is it possible to ask someone for help regarding a problem that I'm having booting the ubuntu on an Asus F5?
[12:56] <IdleOne> well that was a fail
[12:56] <IdleOne> :)
[12:56] <bartje> I do remember having issues on a dualboot, when grub was installed on a different drive
[12:56] <dr_willis_> i dident think the bootflag was needed these days. or at least not by grub2. but it wouldent hurt
[12:56] <dr_willis_> i have windows on sda, and grub on sdb here. no issues
[12:56] <MonkeyDust> sUiCiDaL_pOeT  ask it and see if someone can help
[12:56] <dgz> Steve^, I don't know. Drives are mounted, though.
[12:57] <dgz> Funny installer...
[12:57] <Steve^> dgz, So "mount" shows them?
[12:57] <dr_willis_> bootflag does seem tobe set on sda1 and sdb1 here
[12:57] <sUiCiDaL_pOeT> thanks. So, basically, when I try to boot ubuntu or any other linux distro (that I've tried, including - mint and legacy) the computer won't boot. On the particular case of ubuntu it says unable to find media file... something like this...
[12:58] <dgz> Maybe I should provide a screenshot
[12:58] <sUiCiDaL_pOeT> I've googled the problem, and I found that it has something to do with the bios...
[12:58] <sUiCiDaL_pOeT> but I don't see the option of changing the bios from e...(somthing) to ahcpi (something like this..)
[12:59] <nicofs> bartje, dr_willis_ i just set the flag. will reboot and see what happens...
[12:59] <oboi8> jo
[13:00] <bartje> @nicofs: fingers crossed :-)
[13:01] <sUiCiDaL_pOeT> does anyone knows the solution for this?
[13:01] <bartje> I have an issue as well, samba, Ubuntu precise doesn't want to mount a shared directory I have set up on a machine that runs quantal... though it does see the directory...
[13:01] <nicofs> bartje, dr_willis_ thanks so far - it was the boot flag...
[13:01] <bartje> great :-)
[13:04] <rabbi1> can i play .avi on totem (U 12.04)
[13:04] <nicofs> rabbi1, depends on what codec the avi uses and if you have installed it...
[13:05] <bartje> @rabbi1: try
[13:05] <dr_willis_> rabbi1:  totallyt depends on the codec of the video IN the .avi
[13:05] <dr_willis_> i play .avi files all the time. ;)
[13:05] <benste> anybody in here who worked on software-properties-gtk ? I've got serious trouble with it
[13:05] <benste> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1309514/
[13:05] <dr_willis_> i bet i can  find some .avi files totem cant play. ;) but i dont go to those kind of sites.....
[13:05] <rabbi1> ok, thank you
[13:06] <dgz> Steve^, my bad. HDD and SSD aren't mounted and it complains that it cannot mount them. However, they're visible. Hmm
[13:06] <bartje> I even play way more codecs then most of the windows buddies can... lol
[13:06] <dr_willis_> bartje:  and if you cant play a file.. then its most likely using some suspect codec, or malware codec. ;P
[13:06] <nicofs> rabbi1, have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[13:07] <sUiCiDaL_pOeT> no help for me? :(
[13:07] <Steve^> dgz, i would guess some driver issue - or sometimes there are flags you can give to the installer before booting that enable certain drivers
[13:07] <bartje> Nobody else with issues sharing directories on 12.10?
[13:07] <Steve^> dgz, at least in the olden days, you would do that for sata, I think
[13:07] <dgz> I get "Not authorized to perform operation" when I trie to mount them drives :(
[13:07] <Steve^> sudo?
[13:07] <dr_willis_> sUiCiDaL_pOeT:  id check the forums and askubuntu and look for your exact make pc - bioss are just too varied.
[13:07] <dgz> it's live USB, so no sudo
[13:08] <dgz> fucking proprieatary hardware
[13:08] <dr_willis_> live usb has sudo i thought with no password.
[13:08] <IdleOne> !language | dgz
[13:08] <dgz> ok bot, i wont curse
[13:08] <sUiCiDaL_pOeT> @dr_willis_: thanks.. that's what I've been doing.. but I'm too noob so I was trying to get some extra "live" help... thanks anyway.. :/
[13:08] <dgz> Any suggestion, guys?
[13:09] <Steve^> dgz, google your hardware config, is all I can say
[13:09] <Habermas> Guys please don't use abusive language, there might be kids in here :P
[13:09] <dr_willis_> sUiCiDaL_pOeT:  i had a problamtic pc like that ages ago.. windows had to be set one way. linux needed the other way. it was just a checkbox in the bios for uhci/ehci i think.
[13:09] <dgz> no luck there
[13:10] <sUiCiDaL_pOeT> dr_willis_: the thing is that this bios is too simple.. it almost has no options.. at least I can't find anything related to uhci/ehci?
[13:11] <dr_willis_> they could be using differnt terms like failsafe/fallback.. hard to tell with these makers.
[13:11] <karthick87> Is there a way to find the event, if any users put their mobile phones on charge in the USB ports??
[13:11] <Guest48765> hi everyone
[13:12] <raven> xubuntu 12.04 - which tool for showing network stats in curves?
[13:12] <sUiCiDaL_pOeT> hmm.. ok, maybe I can go in to the bios and tell you what options I have? Or should I try to look for some kind of bios update on asus website?
[13:12] <dr_willis_> karthick87:  dmesg /udev should show info when any usb device is plugged in.. but im not sure what you are looking to do specifically
[13:12] <dr_willis_> sUiCiDaL_pOeT:  theres the #hardware channel that may be able to help also.
[13:12] <mrenouf> So, i read in 12.10 dash will search Google Drive but I can only sync files with Ubuntu One. :-(
[13:13] <dr_willis_> i think theres unofficial google drive clients out for ubuntu. Ive not looked into them
[13:13] <sUiCiDaL_pOeT> ok, thanks... btw, is there any way of setting in the regedit of windows all values to default? because of the changes I made maybe I set some values wrong
[13:14] <raven> xubuntu 12.04 - which tool for showing network stats graphical?
[13:14] <dr_willis_> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/08/insync-brings-google-drive-to-ubuntu
[13:14] <judahlion> blist
[13:14] <judahlion> blist
[13:14] <Guest48765> is there a chat program where i can use videocall on msn
[13:15] <karthick87> dr_willis: Writing a script for email notification on usb device insertion... Here is the question http://askubuntu.com/questions/192331/how-to-get-an-email-notification-when-a-usb-storage-device-is-inserted
[13:16] <mrenouf> Thanks, checking out InSync now
[13:16] <gabkdlly> raven, http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/xfce4-netload-plugin   Recommended by the xubuntu-desktop package, so I do not know if it is installed by default.  There is also a #xubuntu channel.
[13:17] <Guest12930> hi there, just got my raspberry pi and have a question regarding the possibility to verify image-integrity
[13:17] <Guest12930> how to i check if what i've written onto the sd-card is the exact same thing as whats on the image of raspbian?
[13:17] <Guest12930> do
[13:18] <Guest12930> it should work with "dd diff" or something, but iam actually quite new to this topic and stuff
[13:19] <IdleOne> Guest12930: try #raspbian
[13:19] <mrenouf> I love that you can order up to 16 TB on Google Drive ;-)
[13:20] <Guest12930> IdleOne: tried, need to register or smth if i want to join that channel
[13:20] <dr_willis_> !register
[13:20] <dr_willis_> regiestering your nick takes like 2 min. ;)
[13:20] <Habermas> hey guys, since lubuntu channel seems dead I'll ask here - I removed AbiWord through Synaptic but it does not disappear from the "Start menu", any ideas how to get rid of it?
[13:20] <dr_willis_> Guest12930:  and i imagine you could md5sum the sd and compare it to the  image you downloaded.
[13:21] <IdleOne> Guest12930: this channel doesn't do raspbian support, best place to ask is in that channel. see the info ubottu gave you to get registered
[13:21] <mrenouf> BTW: InSync is AWESOME
[13:21] <dr_willis_> My RaspberryPi has been on order now for like.... err... 90+ days :)
[13:22] <karthick87> dr_willis: Any idea on getting notification on plugging in usb cables for charging mobile phones??
[13:22] <nicofs> I use two seperate X screens (nvidia) - but I can't push my mouse over to the second screen. any ideas?
[13:22] <dr_willis_> karthick87:  fancy scriptng watching the dmesg logs. or  the udev stuff.. (or has udev been replaced)
[13:23] <jeanette\> dr_willis_: my boyfriend suggests you cancel your order at RS and order from Farnell instead (they deliver within 5 days)
[13:23] <dr_willis_>  the chargeing for whatever.. would have to be determined by the script as to what its doing as far as i understand how udev works.
[13:23] <dr_willis_> jeanette\:  i may just order from both.
[13:24] <dr_willis_> but im in the USA. not the UK
[13:24] <ix_> my usb stick was quirky and I thought it had bad sectors, so I checked with "sudo badblocks /dev/sdb", nothing appeared, is that ok? Should I have done "sudo badblocks /dev/sdb1"?
[13:25] <jeanette\> dr_willis_: ok, they promise 5 days on international shipping
[13:25] <jeanette\> dr_willis_: we're in Norway and he got his within a few days
[13:25] <dr_willis_> Order today for delivery within 3 weeks!.....
[13:26] <dr_willis_> Availability: 0
[13:26] <MonkeyDust> you could've ordered 3 weeks ago, then ;)
[13:26] <jeanette\> ;\
[13:28] <nicofs> I use two seperate X screens (nvidia) on 12.10 - but I can't push my mouse over to the second screen - instead it just reappears in the other corner of the same... any ideas? (used to work just fine in 12.04)
[13:28] <dr_willis_> that wouldent be seperate X screens, that would be 'twinview' nicofs  i belive...
[13:28] <dr_willis_> twinview = one wide desktop, you can drag apps to the 2nd monitor.
[13:29] <dr_willis_> seperate X screens, you can have 2 differnt window managers/desktops - one on each monitor.
[13:29] <nicofs> dr_willis_, no seperate screens.
[13:29] <dr_willis_> ive only ever used twinview.
[13:29] <nicofs> that's what i mean and want. twinview works - but i'm not after that
[13:29] <xreal> Why do I get an alpha version of live-build in Ubuntu 12.04 ??
[13:29] <gustav__> Why do I have a monthly fee? Harddrives are a one time fee. A 1TB drive cost 100 USD. 1TB on Google Drive cost 50 USD / month. Crazy.
[13:30] <dr_willis_> with septerate x sessiosn I though you had to hit some hotkey to get to the 2nd monitor.
[13:30] <gustav__> +pay
[13:30] <dr_willis_> gustav__:  redundant backups ;)
[13:30] <dr_willis_> and redundant redundant redundancy.
[13:30] <nicofs> dr_willis_, not until 12.04 - but if there is such a hotkey i'd gladly know it...
[13:31] <dr_willis_> nicofs:  i dont recall ever needing or using the seperate X sessions,m or when ever i did. i just had a blank display on the right side with no wm/no apps. and mouseing over to it dident work. No idea about your pointer wrapping around.
[13:32] <dr_willis_> that maybe related to whats going on if  the system is not seeing the mouse to the side
[13:32] <gustav__> dr_willis_: I just buy 4 1TB disks and do backup myself. 400 USD. 8 months on Google Drive. I can configure that to RAID-5, too. And get more storage.
[13:32] <dr_willis_> gustav__:  go for it then.,
[13:32] <wastrel> :[
[13:32] <dr_willis_> or you could sign up for 1000 ubuntu one accounts...
[13:32] <dr_willis_> ;P
[13:32] <nicofs> dr_willis_, it's related to 12.10 - before, it used to work just fine for 10.04 through 12.04
[13:33] <gustav__> Only thing is Google Drive has faster connection. From other locations than my home. At home the connection would be widely superior to Google Drive. I can't get 1 gigabit/s to Google Drive. Not from any location I guess.
[13:33] <dr_willis_> nicofs:  i dont recall it working ever. :) but then agian. i only recall trying it a few times.
[13:33] <Guest40882> Hi, My address books in Thunderbird disappeared on my ubuntu 12.10. How can I get them back?
[13:33] <CestSebastian> hey guys, what is the latest kernel version in ubuntu 12.10?
[13:33] <dr_willis_> nicofs:  let me find a 2nd monitor. :)
[13:33] <gustav__> dr_willis_: They'd notice. :-)
[13:33] <wastrel> 3.5 something
[13:34] <nicofs> dr_willis_, it works in so far as I can see the other x screen... it's there, up and running. i just can't get the mouse there...
[13:34] <wastrel> 3.5.0-17-generic #28-Ubuntu SMP
[13:34] <CestSebastian> thx, wastrel
[13:35] <williammanda> anyone having problems opening mythtv-setup? getting a blank terminal screen
[13:38] <rabbi1> any website mockup tool for ubuntu 12.04 ?
[13:38] <LtRipley> hi, I'm trying to fix my priting which is non-working since the last dist-upgrade. Is there a good description of the ubuntu printing architecture
[13:38] <LtRipley> I'm using Ubuntu 12.04
[13:39] <IdleOne> !cups
[13:39] <nicofs> dr_willis_, do you know how or where the mouse is configured... i suspect 12.10 has a slightly different way of handling the HIDs than 12.04... my x configuration is the same as before...
[13:40] <LtRipley> IdleOne: thanks, I will have a look :)
[13:41] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[13:42] <dr_willis_> nicofs:  if its not in xorg.conf im not sure where else it could be.
[13:42] <dr_willis_> nicofs:  try it with a differnt window maanger? could be some weirdness with unity/compiz
[13:43] <dr_willis_> nicofs:  i just found the stuff to get my 2nd monitor going.. hot plugged it in.. twinview automatically turned on.. Nifty.
[13:43] <nicofs> dr_willis_, i'm on xfce anyway...
[13:43] <nicofs> dr_willis_, twinview is nice - up to the point where you want to fully use your two screens and run one application in full screen mode each...
[13:44] <dr_willis_> nicofs:  hmm.. I drag apps to monitor 1 or 2 and fullscreen them just fine. thats now i ran xbmc and the desktop for ages
[13:44] <dr_willis_> I just noticed i can select 'seperate x screens' AND have 'xinerama' enabled/checked..
[13:44] <LtRipley> IdleOne: hmm with those tutorials there is a lot about specific printers and printing over network, but not how local printing should work. Or I am just to blind to see it
[13:45] <dr_willis_> got to restart X. brb nicofs .
[13:45] <nicofs> dr_willis_, seperate and xinerama doesn't work...
[13:45] <IdleOne> LtRipley: I haven't had a working printer in a long time. Can't be of much help. what exactly are you experiencing, any errors?
[13:46] <LtRipley> IdleOne: basically it doesn't print :)
[13:46] <LtRipley> IdleOne: i don't know enough about how it should work to give a more detailed error description
[13:47] <IdleOne> LtRipley: Which version of Ubuntu are you running?
[13:47] <LtRipley> IdleOne: usually I could turn on my printer use "lpr somedocument.ps" and it was printed
[13:47] <LtRipley> IdleOne: 12.04
[13:48] <dr_willis_> I see a similer bug here on using seperate X screens. the Lightdm screen the mouse jumps from one edge to the other. I cant select the lightdm login dialogs. ;) they are on the other monitor
[13:48] <LtRipley> no not correct, it is 11.10. though i did upgrade recently
[13:48] <LtRipley> seems it didn't work
[13:48] <IdleOne> LtRipley: ok, click on the Dash (Ubuntu logo top left corner) search for Printers, that should popup the print manager. have a poke around there, make sure your printer is set as default.
[13:49] <LtRipley> IdleOne: i dont have a ubuntu logo there, I am using gnome
[13:50] <LtRipley> IdleOne: is there any description of the architecture?
[13:50] <IdleOne> LtRipley: ok, well you need to find the print manager. i don't know where it is in gnome-shell but certain that there is one
[13:50] <LtRipley> like how cups is used in ubuntu and how it is supposed to work?
[13:50] <redshadowhero> Does anyone know why llvm is 3.1, but clang is 3.0 on quantal?
[13:51] <IdleOne> LtRipley: I would assume but wouldn't know where to find it. You might be able to get that info in those docs linked earlier
[13:51] <LtRipley> well, i will have to try again to find something :)
[13:53] <marcus> "GRUB Install Devices" is this where /boot partition will be?
[13:53] <Wuss> Hey, I just installed Ubuntu and IRC client and I'm total newb. Could smb tell me some advices about using this OS?
[13:53] <dr_willis_> Definatly some weird bug going on with 'sepetate X displays' Never seen it work that way befor.
[13:54] <redshadowhero> Wuss: It depends on what you want to do with it :)
[13:54] <Bustacap> Is there any decent native linux alternative to audacity instead of using wine with a better audio editor?
[13:54] <dr_willis_> !manual | Wuss
[13:54] <LtRipley> Bustacap: i do use sox for a lot of audio operations
[13:55] <LtRipley> Bustacap: though it is a command line tool :)
[13:55] <Wuss> afc for a minute
[13:55] <black_joe> Bustacap: Audacity has a Linux native, no?
[13:55] <marcus> "GRUB Install Devices" is this where startup drive should be?? any1 know? :{
[13:56] <black_joe> Yes. Grub should be pointed at the startup drive / partition.
[13:56] <escott> marcus, a screenshot might help us know what you are talking about
[13:56] <marcus> kk
[13:56] <nicofs> dr_willis_, I'm one step further. now, i can move over to the other x screen. and then, i'm stuck there and can't move back...
[13:57] <dr_willis_> nicofs:  :) i cant even login - mouse wraps around on the wrong/blank monitor on login. Noticeing twinview is also acting differntly as well
[13:57] <marcus> is this on the USB with boot for install, or on the future drive used ? :{
[13:58] <marcus> ( i have os on usb )
[13:58] <nicofs> dr_willis_, i'll reboot once more to try the next config...
[13:59] <david__> Can anybody help me with some GPU heatsink issue?
[14:00] <sophos> Ubuntu is running slow again on my Dual Core PC. It takes seconds to start loading an application. Sometimes it doesnt even open it, instead I have to kill it manually. Is there any good way to speed it up?
[14:01] <lotuspsychje> sophos:depends on what exactly slows it down
[14:01] <sophos> Dont know.
[14:01] <sophos> My PC is good.
[14:02] <sophos> I installed Ubuntu 12.10 BETA2 , then I upgraded it. I keep getting randon window messages with "system crashed", but the problem is not detailed there.
[14:03] <lotuspsychje> sophos:you might wanna try a clean install
[14:03] <sophos> will that help?
[14:03] <lotuspsychje> sophos:you can sure try
[14:04] <sophos> Yes, I probably will..
[14:04] <lotuspsychje> sophos:a clean install solves many things
[14:04] <Wuss> ubottu: thx very much
[14:05] <Wuss> lol
[14:05] <sophos> hahah
[14:05] <NikP> Hi!
[14:06] <NikP> I've forgotten the name of the package, that allows to show the CPU tmperature in the terminal. (Sorry, I'm german ;-)
[14:07] <dr_willis_> !info lm-sensors
[14:07] <NikP> Oh, thank you.
[14:07] <NikP> Bye.
[14:07] <lotuspsychje> lol
[14:10] <david__> Well, the problem is that I bought a new heatsink for my NVidia GeForce 220 GT, an Arctic Accelero L2 PLus. In both the box and instructions it says it's compatible with my GPU, but not the LP one. I asked the shop assistant what's that and she told me it's just the GPUs used in the microATX motherboards. Thus, it's compatible with my GPU. But the mounting holes in my GPU form a rectangle. And the ones in the structure of the heatsink form
[14:10] <david__> a square (larger or smaller depending on the GPU). Does anybody know about a heatsink that has a rectangular structure? Am I just dumb?
[14:11] <lotuspsychje> david__:wrong chan :p
[14:11]  * dr_willis_ points to the #hardware channel for david__ .....
[14:11] <dr_willis_> I cant recall seeing a rectangluar hs  for a cpu. ;) most have a square base that i recall.
[14:12] <dr_willis_> amazing how much heat a little bitty CPU can put out.
[14:12] <david__> dr_willis_: It's a GPU, not a CPU :)
[14:12] <david__> and I know I should go to hardware, but they don't answer me
[14:12] <david__> :/
[14:12]  * lotuspsychje throws a nexus7 with ubuntu towards dr_willis_
[14:12] <david__> Thank you, anyway.
[14:13] <dr_willis_> lotuspsychje:  those are for devs :)  I  got a Toshiba Thrive.
[14:19] <Bustacap> What is compiz?
[14:19] <dr_willis_> the window manager that unity is part of. that gives all the fancy eyecandy effects
[14:19] <dr_willis_> !compiz
[14:19] <Bustacap> Is it normal for it to be using 279mb of ram?
[14:19] <dr_willis_> unity is a plugin for compiz
[14:20] <dr_willis_> how are you measureing it?
[14:20] <Bustacap> System monitor.
[14:21] <nicofs> dr_willis_, it's a bug in Xorg server. https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54654 a downgrade should fix that.
[14:21] <L3top> Compiz tends to be a little thirsty... but you should check your video card, there may be a more appropriate management of resources with a different driver. lspci -nn | grep VGA   Bustacap
[14:21] <dr_willis_> using 248mb here it seems
[14:22] <Bustacap> My video card is fine, I'm not having a problem with anything, just throught it was strange for it to be using that much ram. I have a GTS450 with 1gb ddr5.
[14:24] <arunkumar413> hi ubuntu 12.10 doesn't mount the flash drive
[14:25] <lotuspsychje> arunkumar413:in what format is your flash drive
[14:25] <MrBushido> is there a bug with the update notification applet at the moment? I'm getting an "update information is outdated..." message for some reason
[14:26] <ironhalik> I want to upgrade my precise pangolin machine to 12.10. I'm quite happy with my current setup, and would like to backup it in case I want to go back. What would be the best way to do it?
[14:26] <MonkeyDust> ironhalik  rsync is fast and easy to use
[14:26] <ironhalik> My OS drive is a 64GB SSD, maybe a full drive dump would be a good idea?
[14:26] <MrBushido> ironhalik: install to a different partition?
[14:26] <lotuspsychje> !info aptoncd | ironhalik
[14:27] <dr_willis_> you could image the hd to a file on a spare external HD if you wanted..
[14:27] <lotuspsychje> ironhalik:or clonezilla
[14:27] <lotuspsychje> ironhalik:what ssd brand u got?
[14:28] <ironhalik> crucial m4
[14:28] <ironhalik> I've got quite a lot of custom configs, so I'd need to backup the whole setup
[14:28] <lotuspsychje> ironhalik:nice1
[14:29] <nicofs> How do I force an older version of a package (from the previous release)?
[14:29] <ironhalik> so the aptoncd is out of the question
[14:29] <lotuspsychje> ironhalik:like dr_willis_ says making an image would be best then
[14:29] <ironhalik> clonezilla looks nice
[14:29] <dr_willis_> nicofs:  you dont use earlier release packages on a newer release. If theres differnt versions in the repos for the same release you can use apt's pining feature
[14:29] <dr_willis_> clonezilla or dd ;) depending on your needs
[14:30] <nicofs> dr_willis_, it's either that or not having a working xorg... :-/
[14:30] <L3top> ironhalik: I would go with clonezilla as suggested earlier. It will clone the whole drive if you like, and you can just restore. I use it to do stupid things I know are going to break systems.
[14:30] <ironhalik> I was thinking about dd, but I wont be able to verify my backup
[14:30] <dr_willis_> nicofs:  i doubt if installing xorg from an earlier reelase is going to work
[14:30] <nicofs> dr_willis_, it's not that I have a choice...
[14:30] <ironhalik> Ok, I'll look into clonezilla - thanks for the suggestions
[14:30] <dr_willis_> nicofs:  there are updated xorg ppas out there that may have fixed whatever bug or issue you are having.
[14:31] <arunkumar413> lotuspsychje, may be in fat32
[14:31] <nicofs> dr_willis_, ok - i'll go for that first - but in *theory* i'd have to add the old channels back to sources.list and then should be able to fetch it?
[14:32] <L3top> nicofs: of course you have a choice... what is the underlying issue that leads you to believe you should use an earlier and very different xorg that new GPU drivers have been written to work with so will likely force you to retrograde everything?
[14:32] <dr_willis_> nicofs:  i would doubt if that would work. since the version #'s would be differnt.
[14:32] <ArcaneWater> Hello, have some problem i just done fresh dual boot with W8 and Ubuntu 12.10, last time i installed ubuntu 12.04 secure remix, as i havent found secure remix for 12.10 i just used normal, now my Wi-Fi is not working thath happend same on the 12.04 first time but after i used secure remix it was working,....What should i do?
[14:32] <lotuspsychje> ironhalik:there's a trick with dpkg also that can backup current packages and reinstall them on your fresh install
[14:32] <dr_willis_> nicofs:  id make backups  :)
[14:32] <L3top> +1
[14:32] <nicofs> dr_willis_, no need for backups - this system is 2 hours old...
[14:32] <FreddyAduu> Goodday, I have a lot of problems with my Radeon HD for Ubuntu 12.10. I am using a AMD A6-3500 with Radeon HD 6530D onboard.  But lspci saysy I have a Radeon 3000 series. Moreover my monitor is not recognized, so I am on a lowres. What can be wrong?
[14:33] <nicofs> L3top, a bug leads me to think that ;-)
[14:33] <L3top> nicofs: even so... restoring a clone is faster than reinstalling.
[14:33] <nicofs> L3top, installing takes 10 minutes max.
[14:33] <Calinou> FreddyAduu: monitors are always "recognized"
[14:34] <Calinou> your GPU's drivers are not installed or do not work
[14:34] <lotuspsychje> FreddyAduu:did you install aditional drivers?
[14:34] <FreddyAduu> xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default
[14:34] <Calinou> nicofs: an install takes 30 minutes on average
[14:34] <Calinou> (8mbit connection -- quite fast)
[14:34] <nicofs> Calinou, not from flash drive to ssd...
[14:34] <Calinou> ah, to SSD
[14:35] <O_R_S> Hi, My address books in Thunderbird disappeared on my ubuntu 12.10. How can I get them back?
[14:35] <FreddyAduu> lotuspsychje, I did on 12.04 but I was only able to install Catalyst 12.6 legacy.
[14:35] <L3top> my life is measured in heartbeats... fully installed/configured clone backup is faster to restore than doing a fresh install, and I don't have to answer a bunch of questions... but to each their own.
[14:35] <FreddyAduu> that was weird, because HD 6530D should be able to do more
[14:36] <Bustacap> Anyone have experience with cursor themes?
[14:36] <FreddyAduu> install 12.8 failed for me at that time
[14:36] <lotuspsychje> FreddyAduu:you sure the catalyst works good?
[14:37] <L3top> FreddyAduu: I wouldn't expect an HD 6xxx series to need the legacy...
[14:37] <FreddyAduu> Calinou, I think you are right that my GPU drivers are not installed
[14:37] <FreddyAduu> but I believe the open source (mesa) drivers should be perfect for my card
[14:37] <L3top> FreddyAduu: that should really just be the 2xxx-4xxx series, and really only quantal.
[14:37] <katrina> anyone have experience using readline in C code on ubuntu? I get test_readline.c:(.text+0x67): undefined reference to `rl_bind_keyseq' error.
[14:37] <arunkumar413> lotuspsychje, r  u there
[14:37] <FreddyAduu> but why is it that lspci says I am using a radeon 3xxx series?
[14:38] <FreddyAduu> that is simply not true
[14:38] <L3top> ah... that makes more sense
[14:38] <lotuspsychje> arunkumar413:what brand is your flash drive?
[14:38] <arunkumar413> lotuspsychje, its actually a mobile phone connected in mass storage mode
[14:38] <L3top> yeah FreddyAduu, it pretty much would have to be.... please give me the output of lspci -nn | grep VGA
[14:39] <lotuspsychje> arunkumar413: with sd card in the phone?
[14:39] <FreddyAduu> 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RS780L [Radeon HD 3000] [1002:9616]
[14:39] <arunkumar413> lotuspsychje, yes,
[14:40] <lotuspsychje> arunkumar413:your pc can read the sd card without the phone?
[14:40] <arunkumar413> lotuspsychje, it mounts and after few seconds it unmounts
[14:41] <L3top> yes... that is definitely correct FreddyAduu. You can try run sudo update-pciids but... that IS what it is seeing. Is it possible that this is an onboard GPU and it is not seeing a card?
[14:41] <lotuspsychje> arunkumar413:if you can loose data on it, try reformatting the sd card
[14:41] <FreddyAduu> L3top: 1 x AMD A6-3500  Radeon HD6530D  FM1 BOX is what I bought
[14:42] <arunkumar413> lotuspsychje, no way, i don't want to loose any data
[14:42] <compdoc> FreddyAduu, sometimes the same drivers are used for a range of cards. You tried any drivers from AMD?
[14:42] <arunkumar413> lotuspsychje, if i can reforamat, i would not have come to this chat
[14:42] <Bustacap> How do I change a cursor theme in 12.10?
[14:43] <FreddyAduu> compdoc: I did on 12.04
[14:43] <FreddyAduu> and I was only able to install the legacy drivers
[14:43] <FreddyAduu> 12.6
[14:43] <FreddyAduu> cataleyst
[14:43] <compdoc> what are you trying to use now?
[14:43] <lotuspsychje> arunkumar413:open a terminal and do a tail -f /var/log/syslog and connect your mobile to ubuntu
[14:43] <compdoc> what OS, I mean
[14:43] <FreddyAduu> which is strange, because I bought 6530D
[14:43] <jexmex> I installed xbuntu on my laptop a few days back, now it is suffering from overheating, this is not a issue in windows, just xbuntu.  Anybody know if there is some kind of known issue about this?
[14:43] <lotuspsychje> arunkumar413:pastebin the error you getting plz
[14:44] <FreddyAduu> compdoc: now I using the mesa drivers
[14:44] <FreddyAduu> I believe
[14:44] <FreddyAduu> VESA: RS780
[14:44] <plustax> Im having some serious issues with 12.10 Everytime I boot up my laptop I get a system error and send an error report. Then within an hour of using my laptop the screen will freeze in position and I am forced to hard restart my computer. What is causing this and how can I fix it? I have 8gigs of ram in this thing it shouldnt be freezing
[14:45] <lotuspsychje> plustax:what was default Os on your laptop?
[14:45] <arunkumar413> lotuspsychje, http://pastebin.com/sFzLqzs1
[14:45] <plustax> windows 7
[14:45] <plustax> im dualbooting it right now
[14:45] <L3top> FreddyAduu: again, Is it possible that this is an onboard GPU and it is not seeing a card?
[14:45] <plustax> I installed 12.10 alongside windows 7 with wubbi a 30gig installation. Think thats the problem?
[14:45] <FreddyAduu> what do you mean with the latter?
[14:45] <FreddyAduu> it is an onboard card
[14:46] <lotuspsychje> arunkumar413:i would recommend reformat mate, first backup ofcourse
[14:46] <plustax> lotuspsychje, ^
[14:46] <lotuspsychje> plustax:you got a full system freeze, cant do nothing anymore?
[14:46] <arunkumar413> lotuspsychje, when i'm not able to mount it how can i backup
[14:46] <plustax> well I could alt-tab and I could ctrl alt L to log out but when I log in its still frozen
[14:47] <plustax> lotuspsychje
[14:47] <plustax> sorry forget to tag you in the sentence haha
[14:47] <L3top> What is the board FreddyAduu?
[14:47] <lotuspsychje> arunkumar413:did you try gparted to see if the sd shows?
[14:47] <arunkumar413> lotuspsychje, no
[14:47] <lotuspsychje> plustax:try setting BIOS 'network boot' to ON
[14:48] <plustax> lotuspsychje, how do I do that? go into BIOS?
[14:48] <lotuspsychje> plustax:whats your laptop brand mate?
[14:48] <arunkumar413> lotuspsychje, gparted is to edit hard disk partitions right
[14:48] <plustax> Asus x54c
[14:48] <root____9> screen
[14:48] <FreddyAduu> L3top: Asrock A75 Pro4  A75
[14:48] <arunkumar413> lotuspsychje, anyways, installing the gparted
[14:48] <lotuspsychje> arunkumar413:yes, as your syslog shows sd gone bad
[14:48] <plustax> lotuspsychje, asus x54c
[14:49] <lotuspsychje> plustax: enter BIOS wxith DEL or ESC
[14:49] <plustax> lotuspsychje, okay Ill try it out
[14:49] <plustax> brb
[14:50] <kroson> Is any of the new versions of unity coming to ubuntu 12.04 as a backport? Thank you
[14:50] <L3top> FreddyAduu: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&N=100006676&isNodeId=1&Description=Asrock+A75+Pro4++A75&x=0&y=0    none of those have an onboard GPU... this has to be a card... regardless that answers my question.
[14:50] <lotuspsychje> arunkumar413:if gparted shows your sd you still can recover data
[14:51] <pixolin> hi. anyone using Quassel IRC on his Ubuntu and knows how to switch on spell checking?
[14:52] <arunkumar413> lotuspsychje, how can it go bad. when it was 12.04 every thing was fine. I'm facing this issue since i upgraded to 12.10
[14:52] <arunkumar413> lotuspsychje, the gparted doesn't show the device
[14:53] <H0stk3rn3l> Hi everyone... I'm using ubuntu 12.10 with gnome shell... my problem is that after time (like 20-30 minutes) internet doesn't work anymore... i've to do ifconfig wlan0 down and then wlan0 up... anyone have my same problem?
[14:53] <FreddyAduu> L3top: http://www.alternate.nl/html/product/ASRock/A75_Pro4-M/888570/
[14:53] <kroson> Is any of the new versions of unity coming to ubuntu 12.04 as a backport? Thank you
[14:53] <lotuspsychje> arunkumar413:did you had to install something to recognize your phone on previous ubuntu?
[14:53] <FreddyAduu> that website says different
[14:53] <arunkumar413> lotuspsychje, no
[14:53] <cavico> ciao!
[14:53] <CXIV> What is "blank" password in ubuntu live login?
[14:53] <cavico> list!
[14:54] <lotuspsychje> arunkumar413:can you test the sd card on another mcahine?
[14:54] <dr_willis_> CXIV:  just hit enter perhaps?
[14:54] <lotuspsychje> !warez | cavico
[14:54] <anonymous> hello
[14:54] <CXIV> dr_willis_  I created persistent usb stick and I want to change password
[14:54] <BluesKaj> !it | cavico
[14:54] <gartral> hello all, i'm facing a problem with gstreamer on ubuntu 12.04 64-bit.. mainly. i need the 32-bit one for what i need to do in Second Life.. i know in fedora there a way to install the 32-bit gstreamer plugins in the 64-bit version.. but how do i do that in ubuntu?
[14:54] <arunkumar413> lotuspsychje, sorry no other machine available that's why i'm on this chat channel
[14:55] <dr_willis_> CXIV:  cant say ive ever noticed a default password on the livecd/persistant setup.
[14:55] <lotuspsychje> arunkumar413:what brand of mobile is it please?
[14:55] <ArcaneWater> How can i locate my Windows WiFi driver with .inf as in my system32 map there are only .sys files i want to use my wifi driver for ubuntu thath why i am searching
[14:55] <gartral> CXIV: the default password is ubuntu
[14:55] <arunkumar413> lotuspsychje, its not a smart phone, its alcatel 520d one touch
[14:55] <plustax> lotuspsychje, I couldnt find that setting anywhere in the BIOS
[14:56] <H0stk3rn3l> Hi everyone... I'm using ubuntu 12.10 with gnome shell... my problem is that after time (like 20-30 minutes) internet doesn't work anymore... i've to do ifconfig wlan0 down and then wlan0 up... anyone have my same problem? no one?
[14:57] <thesadmafioso> H0stk3rn3l: are you using a wlan0 adapter?
[14:57] <CXIV> I cannot change password , it says password is wrong :)
[14:57] <LtRipley> then change it first
[14:57] <Wuss> hey, i have a problem. I'm trying to use command "tee -a" in terminal and it says that this command is invalid and i should check it in "tee --help". I checked and it didn't help me at all, cause in "help" its the same as i wrote it. Anyone know how to fix it?
[14:57] <FreddyAduu> L3top: A75M-ITX is having onboard
[14:57] <H0stk3rn3l> thesadmafioso: mmmm I really don't know...
[14:58] <lotuspsychje> plustax: network boot enables network from bios, cant find that in boot options?
[14:58] <FreddyAduu> I think that is the board I have
[14:58] <plustax> lotuspsychje, I couldnt find it
[14:58] <H0stk3rn3l> thesadmafionso: nono
[14:58] <H0stk3rn3l> sorry...
[14:58] <plustax> lotuspsychje, should I look again? Is it 100 percent in there?
[14:58] <H0stk3rn3l> i've the wifi insiede my netbook
[14:58] <lotuspsychje> arunkumar413:on previous ubuntu your phone showed the sd card mounted automaticly?
[14:58] <H0stk3rn3l> lol
[14:59] <thesadmafioso> H0stk3rn3l: well, are you using a wireless
[14:59] <lotuspsychje> plustax:most recent laptop models should have network boot yes
[14:59] <plustax> lotuspsychje, okay ill try again lol
[14:59] <thesadmafioso> H0stk3rn3l: what is the signal strength like? You should be able to see it from the top panel if you hover over the network symbol
[14:59] <Wuss> anonyone know why "tee -a" command didn't work in terminal?
[14:59] <H0stk3rn3l> thesadmafioso: The max!
[15:00] <thesadmafioso> H0stk3rn3l: have you tried out a hardwired connection to see if it is more stable?
[15:00] <jrib> Wuss: "didn't work" is too vague
[15:00] <H0stk3rn3l> thesadmafioso: I can't because i'm very far from my router...
[15:00] <plustax> lotuspsychje: After googling, I see nothing that suggests my computer has this feature.
[15:00] <nessi_-> H0stk3rn3l: what do you see in the syslog during the time of disconnect?
[15:00] <marcus> any1 know how to get pendrivelinux work with wine, to install windows ? :{
[15:01] <thesadmafioso> H0stk3rn3l: perhaps you should check dmesg | tail
[15:01] <lotuspsychje> plustax:look into boot order options
[15:01] <H0stk3rn3l> it doesn't disconnect.... It looks like connect but when I ping something ... nothing happen...
[15:01] <Wuss> jrib: i tried to use this command and it said "command is invalid, try tee --help". I  checked it in "tee --help" and i'm sure i wrote it correctly
[15:01] <lotuspsychje> plustax:and set network boot to first then hd
[15:01] <FreddyAduu> L3top:
[15:01] <FreddyAduu> I see the problem
[15:01] <FreddyAduu> the computer company delivered the wrong device!
[15:01] <jrib> Wuss: what did you run exactly?
[15:02] <FreddyAduu> my invoice says I bought a Asus A75
[15:02] <L3top> FreddyAduu: that makes perfect sense... there is really no way I can think of where that part of lspci could be wrong...
[15:02] <nessi_-> H0stk3rn3l: do you ping an IP or a DNS entry? even its not disconnecting there aint any message for your eth0 device during that time you experience the issue?
[15:02] <FreddyAduu> but that is not what I got
[15:02] <L3top> I mean if it didn't find the right value... it would all wrong... not say it is a different chipset.
[15:02] <FreddyAduu> I opened my box and it says: ASUS M5A78L
[15:03] <H0stk3rn3l> nessi: both...
[15:03] <L3top> bummer. At least its solved.
[15:03] <Wuss> jrib:  i'm doing an ubuntu-manual how-to i found in the Interned, and i have to use this command to  download and install application that's not in Ubuntu Store
[15:03] <jrib> Wuss: again, what did you run exactly?
[15:04] <lotuspsychje> plustax:what model laptop again?
[15:04] <lotuspsychje> right
[15:04] <Wuss> jrib: wait a moment
[15:04] <kroson> Is there MyUnity for Ubuntu 12.10 ?
[15:05] <bazhang> kroson, its been removed
[15:05] <brianlo747> hi
[15:05] <brianlo747> can anyone help me?
[15:05] <kroson> bazhang: what's the best alternative for customizing unity?
[15:05] <bazhang> kroson, what did you wish to configure/change
[15:06] <captine> hi there.  with 12.10 not having 2D unity, what desktop should be used on old atom pc's?
[15:06] <thesadmafioso> H0stk3rn3l: Do you know where the log file viewer program is located?
[15:06] <bazhang> brianlo747, ask the channel a question
[15:06] <brianlo747> can anyone help me?
[15:06] <brianlo747> ok
[15:06] <H0stk3rn3l> thesadmafioso: No i don't... I'm sorry...
[15:06] <brianlo747> my current progress: i am installing 12.04.1 LTS 64 nit
[15:06] <kroson> bazhang: font size, transparency, behaviors, etc
[15:06] <FreddyAduu> L3top: bummer it is. Thanks for your help anyway!
[15:06] <brianlo747> im having some problem with the partitions
[15:06] <lotuspsychje> arunkumar413:your sd card is a sandisk?
[15:07] <H0stk3rn3l> thesadmafioso: can u tell me how can I read it?
[15:07] <thesadmafioso> H0stk3rn3l: nothing to be sorry about I run 10.04 it should be in System > Administration > Log File Viewer
[15:07] <brianlo747> ok i typed a question
[15:07] <Wuss> jrib: first in terminal: "sudo bash" then password, and then: " echo "deb URL experimental-lucid main" | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list sudo  -apt-key adv -keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com  -recv-keys"
[15:07] <hylian> brianlo747: you need to be more specific
[15:07] <brianlo747> ok
[15:07] <kroson> bazhang: also, dash size, show some specific icons on the desktop
[15:07] <bazhang> !partition | brianlo747
[15:07] <hylian> brianlo747: what problem are you having exactly with your partitions?
[15:07] <bharathiraja> I've a bluetooth mouse and it stopped working recently in Ubuntu 12.04. Mouse works fine in Windows 7. Anyone faced similar kind of issues?
[15:07] <Wuss> jrib: and it said that "tee -a" is wrong command
[15:07] <plustax> lotuspsychje, https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2066611/IMG_20121027_110519.jpg
[15:08] <thesadmafioso> H0stk3rn3l: if we can get a look at your log files we may be able to better see the interaction between your network and your wireless card
[15:08] <brianlo747> 2 partition exist
[15:08] <bazhang> kroson, just a moment, let me check the forums
[15:08] <brianlo747> 1 for windows
[15:08] <brianlo747> the other for ubuntu
[15:08] <brianlo747> 60 GB allocated for ubuntu
[15:08] <kroson> bazhang: thank you :)
[15:08] <brianlo747> when i click install
[15:08] <gartral> hello all, i'm facing a problem with gstreamer on ubuntu 12.04 64-bit.. mainly. i need the 32-bit one for what i need to do in Second Life.. i know in fedora there a way to install the 32-bit gstreamer plugins in the 64-bit version.. but how do i do that in ubuntu?
[15:08] <jrib> Wuss: sigh, this tutorial you are following starts off by doing something pretty silly.  What do you want to accomplish and what guide exactly are you following?
[15:08] <brianlo747> error, no root file system is defined.
[15:08] <thewinner> Ã
[15:08] <thewinner> hi
[15:09] <lotuspsychje> plustax: pxe rom 'enable'
[15:09] <Wuss> jrib: it's security guide
[15:09] <jrib> Wuss: be more specific.
[15:09] <plustax> lotuspsychje, thats it? and it should fix my freezing problem? Think you could explain a bit about what happened and whats being fixed? im a noob
[15:09] <hylian> brianlo747: ohh, you need to set up where you want your install to go. i usually set it to /. that should be an option on the "set it up myself" screen. I am asuming this is what you are doing because you want to make sure windows doesn't get oblitereated..??
[15:10] <brianlo747> yes
[15:10] <lotuspsychje> plustax:some laptops got system freeze on default win7 machines
[15:10] <brianlo747> im on the "something else" option screen
[15:10] <plustax> hmm okay
[15:10] <lotuspsychje> plustax: acer aspire one got same issue, not sure it will fix for you too
[15:10] <plustax> okay
[15:10] <plustax> ill give it a shot!
[15:11] <ThinkT510> brianlo747: you need to pick a partition to install to
[15:11] <brianlo747> done that
[15:11] <hylian> brianlo747: once you choose the ubuntu partition, set it up with the format you want (usually ext4) then there will be a spot at the bottom for where the main part of the os should go. i always just set it to /. I am assuming that is what the problem is.
[15:11] <brianlo747> i selected sda2
[15:11] <brianlo747> what do i click now?
[15:11] <ThinkT510> brianlo747: have you given it the / mountpoint?
[15:11] <brianlo747> not yet
[15:12] <bharathiraja> hi all, I've a bluetooth mouse and it stopped working recently in Ubuntu 12.04. Mouse works fine in Windows 7. Anyone faced  similar kind of issues?
[15:12] <ThinkT510> brianlo747: then you haven't selected it
[15:12] <brianlo747> edit partition window: use as: ??? Mount point: ???
[15:12] <hylian> brianlo747: thats what i meant, yes, set the mountpoint to / and then install. (or wherever you would like it, but i recommend /)
[15:12] <brianlo747> i set use as to ext 4 journallign sys?
[15:13] <brianlo747> thenmount point to /
[15:13] <plustax> lotuspsychje, alright Ill see what happens now. Thanks for your help!
[15:13] <brianlo747> do i need to tick format partition?
[15:14] <ThinkT510> brianlo747: yes
[15:14] <brianlo747> and ext4 jornalling system
[15:14] <BluesKaj> gartral, make sure you have multiarch-support installed (it should be installed by default) and ia32-libs ,which is optional
[15:14] <lotuspsychje> plustax:i hope it fixes, you might wanna try tail -f /var/log/syslog too
[15:14] <lotuspsychje> plustax:realtime error show
[15:15] <plustax> lotuspsychje, is there an app I can grab from the software center that will keep logs so that when it happens I can show you the logs?
[15:16] <kroson> bazhang: any news?
[15:16] <brianlo747> i get a swap space alert
[15:16] <brianlo747> whats that?
[15:16] <brianlo747> do i need it?
[15:16] <bazhang> kroson, still looking, sorry
[15:16] <kroson> !unity
[15:16] <lotuspsychje> plustax:ubuntu logs by default mate, check /var/log/syslog
[15:16] <ix__> brianlo747, you need swap if you have little ram, although it's recommended to have it anyway
[15:16] <kroson> bazhang: no problem, i apologize xD
[15:16] <ThinkT510> brianlo747: if you want to hibernate you will need a swap partition
[15:17] <brianlo747> so what do i do now?
[15:17] <ThinkT510> brianlo747: decide if you want swap or not
[15:17] <brianlo747> if i want, do i create a new partition>
[15:17] <brianlo747> ?
[15:17] <ThinkT510> brianlo747: if so, then make a swap partition
[15:17] <brianlo747> how large?
[15:17] <plustax> lotuspsychje, should I pastebin this to you?
[15:18] <ix__> !swap
[15:18] <ThinkT510> brianlo747: at least as big as ram
[15:18] <lotuspsychje> plustax:you can share it with chat sure
[15:18] <plustax> okay cool
[15:18] <brianlo747> 2gb
[15:18] <brianlo747> fine?
[15:18] <hhhzzzarn_> brainlo747, I have 2gb ram, My swap is 4gb, you can have 2gb to 4gb.
[15:18] <brianlo747> ok
[15:18] <brianlo747> i will make 4 gb swap
[15:18] <heroandtn3> which commands to detect trojan in linux? i think those are ps, top, netstat
[15:18] <brianlo747> just to make sure
[15:18] <ix_> a lot of swap makes me laugh
[15:19] <hhhzzzarn_> I know.
[15:19] <brianlo747> so i resize ext4 part and make a new swap?
[15:19] <ix_> yeah, maybe it's useful for hibernation, but not much else
[15:19] <hhhzzzarn_> I am just saving space :)
[15:19] <hhhzzzarn_> for future :)
[15:19] <lotuspsychje> !info rkhunter | heroandtn3
[15:19] <ix_> I have 500 MB of swap
[15:19] <lotuspsychje> !info snort | heroandtn3
[15:20] <plustax> lotuspsychje, here is the pastebin of my system logs. I dont know what to look for! http://pastebin.com/x2VVtVsn
[15:20] <heroandtn3> lotuspsychje: thank you so much
[15:20] <bazhang> kroson, seems to be an app in PPA called unsettings to customize unity:   sudo apt-add-repository ppa:diesch/testing sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install unsettings
[15:20] <lotuspsychje> plustax:any idea what time your system had a freeze?
[15:21] <plustax> I had one less than an hour ago
[15:21] <plustax> maybe 30-45 minutes ago
[15:21] <bazhang> kroson, from this article: http://blog.sudobits.com/2012/10/10/10-things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu-12-10/
[15:22] <fluitfries> if i ran a tar with the t option to test the archive and it simply listed all the files, does that mean the archive is ok?  what if i missed one of the lines where it popped an error, is that possible?
[15:23] <lotuspsychje> plustax:alot of memory stuff in your syslogs: you might wanna reask here in channel if its normal...
[15:23] <lotuspsychje> plustax:not sure of those
[15:23] <plustax> hmm what do I ask?
[15:24] <plustax> Just paste it and ask whats wrong? lol
[15:24] <lotuspsychje> plustax:ask in chan u got system freeze and your syslog pastebin
[15:25] <plustax> lotuspsychje, will do thank you
[15:25] <lotuspsychje> plustax:others might find any unusual stuff
[15:25] <b0unc3`> hello
[15:25] <hhhzzzarn_> hi
[15:26] <b0unc3`> I have a problem with dpkg, every time I try to install/remove pkg it return with an error code (2)
[15:26] <b0unc3`> anyone know how to fix it?
[15:27] <deadmund> b0unc3`: pastebin the error code (depends on the error) paste.ubuntu.com
[15:27] <bharathiraja> I've a bluetooth mouse and it stopped working recently in Ubuntu 12.04. Mouse works fine in Windows 7. Can anyone pls help to solve this problem?
[15:27] <lotuspsychje> plustax: not sure those are normal: Oct 27 11:12:17 ubuntu kernel: [    0.000000] PM: Registered nosave memory: 00000000fed1a000 - 00000000fed1c000
[15:27] <Napoli1926> Ciao a tutti
[15:27] <hhhzzzarn_> b0unc3: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1809021
[15:27] <Napoli1926> !list
[15:27] <lotuspsychje> !it | Napoli1926
[15:29] <hhhzzzarn_> b0unc3': http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1809021
[15:29] <b0unc3`> deadmund: http://pastebin.com/0wAN3tpg (it's in IT,  hope you understand)
[15:29] <b0unc3`> hhhzzzarn_: I've already tried it, without success :/
[15:29] <hhhzzzarn_> ok :(
[15:29] <deadmund> b0unc3`: I don't speak IT.  You can ask in #ubuntu-it
[15:30] <deadmund> b0unc3`: I'm using google translate
[15:30] <Habermas> hey guys, is there some sort of a RAM diagnostics/repair tool for Ubuntu?
[15:30] <dr_willis> !memtest
[15:30] <b0unc3`> deadmund: ok, thank you :)
[15:30] <Habermas> thanks, I'll give it a look
[15:30] <deadmund> b0unc3`: Can you translate the second to last line?
[15:30] <dr_willis> Habermas:  memtest is on most live cds these days as a boot option
[15:31] <plustax> Hey guys, Im having system freeze issues. Here are my syslogs, could someone please have a look and tell me whats going on? Im a noob. http://pastebin.com/x2VVtVsn
[15:31] <deadmund> b0unc3`: the one before E:sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg ...
[15:32] <hhhzzzarn_> plustax: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1666320.html
[15:33] <plustax> hhhzzzarn_, what about that? He's not having the same issue I am
[15:33] <b0unc3`> deadmund: dpkg: unrecoverable fatal error, exiting: the file with the list of the package "ffm peg" doesn't contain an empty file name
[15:34] <dJquery> is there any way to permately disable a network connection, every time i plug in my android phone I keep getting messages that network disconnected
[15:34] <deadmund> b0unc3`: I'm afraid I just don't understand the error.  I'm sorry.  You should ask in #ubuntu-it
[15:34] <fluitfries> if i ran a tar with the t option to test the archive and it simply listed all the files, does that mean the archive is ok?  what if i missed one of the lines where it popped an error, is that possible?
[15:34] <dJquery> disable it then unplug phone and plug it back in and keep getting it again
[15:34] <hhhzzzarn_> plustax: all I can do :) direct you to further help, you have to wait for more experienced users to help you.
[15:34] <b0unc3`> deadmund: ok, np
[15:34] <deadmund> b0unc3`: sorry!
[15:34] <SuperEngineer> I've been trying out "other" Ubuntu desktops [gnome & cinnamon].  safely removed cinnamon via a ppa-purge - but it worries me removing gnome-desktop
[15:35] <SuperEngineer> is there a guarenteed safe way?
[15:35] <lotuspsychje> plustax:you might wanna read his link up, cause same memory issues on there
[15:35] <draganoff> Hi guys, i trying install ubuntu 12.04 with dual-boot windows 7 but I dont see windows partitions. I want delete C: and save D partition, but I cant see them its only /dev/sda
[15:35] <hhhzzzarn_> Superengineer: just do it ;)
[15:36] <nibbler_> draganoff: no sda1, sda2 etc?
[15:36] <hhhzzzarn_> draganoff: it will not show as c: or d: compare the size
[15:36] <dr_willis> draganoff:  you have 2 hard drives? or one hard drive with 2+ partitions?
[15:36] <lotuspsychje> gtg
[15:36] <draganoff> dr_willis: one hdd with 2 partitions
[15:36] <dr_willis> draganoff:  so mount them both and see whats on them.
[15:36] <gartral> BluesKaj: I've done that, but it doesn't add support for a 32-bit binary to load 64-bit libraries.. I *NEED* a 32-bit gstreamer-bad
[15:37] <SuperEngineer> hhhzzzarn_: you suggest which method?  synaptic "completely remove"
[15:37] <draganoff> thx I'll try
[15:37] <SuperEngineer> ..and do have experience of the result, I wonder?
[15:37] <chilili> anyone know how to get volume controls working in AwesomeWm?
[15:37] <fluitfries> i need to test the integrity of a very large tgz.  how can i be able to notice if the test does pop an error?
[15:38] <hhhzzzarn_> SuperEngineer: when I switching between ubuntu-desktop to xubuntu-desktop. I just used the apt-get to remove one and install other.
[15:39] <b0unc3`> deadmund: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1309892/  :)
[15:39] <codephobic> hi, I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Server in a vm in Windows 7 and I was wondering if it's possible to install Zend Framework on it? I can't find anything on google regarding it (though I did see one Russian video result that seemed to include all my search terms...). Anyone tried installing Zend Framework on 12.04 Server?
[15:39] <hhhzzzarn_> SuperEngineer: but then again, I never tested all of it if it was working, that was for a minimal desktop usage.
[15:40] <SuperEngineer> hhhzzzarn_: no probs with standard apps, was nothing they relied on removed?
[15:40] <SuperEngineer> ...  if not - I'm off to go do it as suggested:)
[15:40] <SuperEngineer> hhhzzzarn_: hmmm - just seen your last...
[15:41] <hhhzzzarn_> SuperEngineer, have you researched online of other experiences?
[15:41] <draganoff> dr_willis: I mount them and I see in /mnt, but I cant see them in install menu to delete one partition.. Show only /dev/sda
[15:41] <arunkumar413> i'm trying to use my mobile in mass storage mode. but the ubuntu 12.10 mounts it and after few seconds it automatically unmonts it. please help
[15:41] <escott> fluitfries, use sha1sum or git or something to verify the integrity. there isn't much to ensure integrity of the files inside the tarball which is your real concern
[15:41] <fluitfries> update to 12.10 made my youtube videos have orange "rain" on them.
[15:41] <SuperEngineer> hhhzzzarn_: yes - that's why I thought I'd ask on here... there are some bad warnings & horroer stories
[15:42] <codephobic> I'm also trying to follow this [http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect-server-ubuntu-12.04-lts-apache2-bind-dovecot-ispconfig-3-p5] tutorial, but I have hit a brick wall interms of a "Permission denied" error, that I just cannot resolve. I have root access (well sudo) but it seems I still cannot execute the command "sudo echo 1 > /etc/pure-ftpd/conf/TLS".
[15:42] <fluitfries> escott, i'll try sha1sum.  i'm ok with the interior's integrity.  ty
[15:42] <indio> Hi. What's evolution-calendar-factory process?
[15:42] <NoCreativity> Hey huys
[15:43] <NoCreativity> ops! hey guys! Does any body know how can i make a pptp connection and route my internet traffic to my LAN?
[15:43] <Froward> is there a channel for general chatting about ubuntu, not specifically support?
[15:44] <jrib> !ot | Froward
[15:44] <Froward> thanks jrib :)
[15:44] <fluitfries> escott, wait, need a checksum to verify that against, no?  this is just a tgz i made myself
[15:44] <ArcaneWater> Hello can someone please help me with my wifi problems at 12.10?
[15:45] <escott> fluitfries, right and thats my point. you made a tarball from a failing system (that mac os system) now you need to ensure that (a) you can transfer the tarball around without errors and (b) that the contents of the tarball are good. I would run sha1sum on the folder and include the generated sha1sum.txt in the tarball, then when you unpack you can check the checksums therein
[15:46] <escott> fluitfries, you can also take a sha1sum of the tarball itself but that is only as good as the initial tarball is
[15:47] <fluitfries> escott, the only error in the tarball was that one mp3 with a unicode asian character.  and i ran a tar t test and it just listed all the files, i didn't visually catch an error.
[15:47] <heroandtn3> :*
[15:47] <fluitfries> escott, diskwarrior recovered the filesystem fine, i just can't use the disk going forward or it will happen again
[15:47] <fluitfries> so i'm worried about the tarball more than the interior
[15:48] <ArcaneWater> Can someone please help me with my WiFI problems at 12.10 i tryed to install ndisgtk as my wifi is not working and recived the following error at the last package: http://pastebin.com/Af4cTGUs what should i do? Cause i realy need to fix my WiFi xD
[15:50] <escott> fluitfries, if tar can list the files in the tarball then the tarball is "good" tar doesn't do much its a rather straightforward file format. if it lists the file in the tarball it is there... tar doesn't care or know if it is there correctly though
[15:50] <fluitfries> escott, i guess my quesiton now is, will running a sha1sum on just the tarball itself, without a sum to compare it to, will that prove any kind of integrity at all?
[15:51] <ArcaneWater> Can someone please help me with my WiFI problems at 12.10 i tryed to install ndisgtk as my wifi is not working and recived the following error at the last package: http://pastebin.com/Af4cTGUs what should i do? Cause i realy need to fix my WiFi xD
[15:51] <Kihokki> Which command lists all pci cards connected to motherboard?
[15:51] <escott> fluitfries, look at a simple (uncompressed) tar of a few text files to get a sense for what tar does and you will understand my point. tar basically "cat"s the files together and echoes a few filenames into it
[15:51] <bazhang> lspci Kihokki
[15:52] <Kihokki> Oh, that was too simple :p thanks
[15:52] <BluesKaj> gartral,http://digitalfiz.com/2009/11/secondlife-and-32bit64bit-ubuntu-and-the-easy-fix-for-no-sound/ ...if you feel like compiling
[15:52] <fluitfries> escott, one solution i can think of is to just rename that one file and make the tarball again, it won't pop any errors at all.
[15:52] <tuxmatt> hey all
[15:53] <escott> fluitfries, there are three places errors could be introduced (a) when the files are read off disk and written into the tarball (b) when the tarball is moved from one system to the other (c) when the files are extracted off the tarball back to disk. taking sha1sum of the tarball protects against (b), taking sha1sum of the folder and including that in the tarball protects against (a) and (c)
[15:53] <fluitfries> escott, i just can't imagine doing that for all 500 gb of the data.  this one folder is the only one with an odd character and the only one that popped an error.
[15:53] <raven> how to send messages to logged in ssh users?
[15:54] <bindi> raven: wall
[15:55] <ArcaneWater> Huhu no one can help :(?
[15:55] <escott> raven, write username pts/#; message; EOF
[15:56] <codephobic> I'm trying to follow this [http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect-server-ubuntu-12.04-lts-apache2-bind-dovecot-ispconfig-3-p5] tutorial, but I have hit a brick wall interms of a "Permission denied" error, that I just cannot resolve. I have root access (well sudo) but it seems I still cannot execute the command "sudo echo 1 > /etc/pure-ftpd/conf/TLS".
[15:56] <diskin> ArcaneWater, try using gdebi instead of dpkg, it will install dependencies automatically
[15:57] <ArcaneWater> diskin for all 3 packages?
[15:57] <ArcaneWater> or just for last one?
[15:57] <raven> escott could you explain how please
[15:58] <escott> codephobic, sudo runs echo as root which is useless. > needs to be root. so look at echo 1 | sudo tee /blah/blah
[15:58] <escott> codephobic, if thats in the tutorial find that person and shoot them
[15:59] <gartral> codephobic: try "sudo su" then "echo 1 > /etc/pure-ftpd/conf/TLS"
[15:59] <escott> raven, not sure how i would explain more than i already have
[16:00] <raven> escott what is pts/# in that case?
[16:00] <escott> raven, it is the pts/# that appears in the output of "who"
[16:01] <escott> raven, note that a non-interactive ssh user will not have a pts so you cannot write them (but they are non-interactive so they wouldn't notice anyways)
[16:01] <XS-JoJo> Does anyone know of a Linux-native IRC client that is similar to mIRC?
[16:01] <raven> escott ah nice tnx :)
[16:01] <bindi> XS-JoJo: x-chat
[16:01] <codephobic> escott, thanks for answering but I think you're assuming a higher level of competence on my part than I have... I'm not familiar with the 'sudo tee' bit, and I didn't know you could prefix commands/arguments with sudo mid-sentence.
[16:02] <XS-JoJo> Does it use the same scripting format?
[16:03] <codephobic> escott nope, the writer's not to blame, he just wrote it as 'echo...', it's because I needed to ramp up my permissions to install and configure stuff, that I added 'sudo'. I tried without using sudo (ofcourse) and then with. Now I'll try using sudo as you suggest.
[16:03] <theos> hi all! is there a way to extract .bin file? its a data file. chmod +x done. ./file.bin returns "cannot execute binary file"
[16:04] <escott> codephobic, yours is a common mistake. you think  sudo (echo 1 > /blah/blah) but the shell sees (sudo echo 1) > /blah/blah .... you sudo'ed the wrong part. you sudoed the echo when you needed to sudo the ">" since > is a bash redirection operator and not a command it cannot be sudoed. instead use echo 1 | sudo tee /blah/blah to replace echo > root_owned_file and echo | sudo tee -a /blah/blah for echo >> root_owned_file
[16:04] <nibbler_> theos: what is output of "file ./file.bin"?
[16:04] <XS-JoJo> theos, I think Ark can open it
[16:04] <gartral> theos: sounds like you have a binary for a different architecture.. are you on 64-bit?
[16:04] <wastrel> some self-extracting zip files can be unzipped with the unzip command
[16:05] <wastrel> but i think they're typically .exe actually
[16:07] <codephobic> escott, thanks for explaining that :) I think I'll have to make time to read more about shell ... It's fascinating stuff, but I'm trying to learn bits of everything.
[16:08] <escott> codephobic, also make sure > is what you want. it replaces the file not appends
[16:09] <nannes> Hey .. I found a Dell (all-in-One) printer, model V725w. In the manual I downloaded from dell's website I read it's compatible with ubuntu, and that the drivers are available in dell's website
[16:09] <nannes> But there aren't any
[16:09] <nannes> or , I don't see them
[16:12] <tacomaster> i keep getting an error about duplicate's in the sources.list i put the error on http://paste.ubuntu.com/1309966/ i just didnt want to mess with the file and screw it up with out asking first
[16:12] <jrib> tacomaster: just find the duplicate entry in your /etc/apt/sources.list*
[16:13] <theos> nibbler_ its a data file
[16:14] <fluitfries> tacomaster, i use synaptic's gui to edit my sources when i'm worried like that.
[16:14] <theos> gartral i am on 32 bit
[16:17] <kunji> nannes: You might need to bother Dell to get them.  You could also see if the drivers in CUPS do what you need for printing, and if the ones used for XSane work for you for scanning.
[16:17] <kunji> ... I wish cp gave more feedback...
[16:18] <jrib> kunji: use rsync
[16:18] <nannes> Ok, but I still haven't bought it. The reason I asked for is I'm not sure to buy it
[16:18] <escott> kunji, you mean like cp -v?
[16:18] <nannes> *for it
[16:19] <kunji> jrib and escott: Hmm, never tried it verbose actually, lol, I probably should have done rsync though, but I do only need this done once.
[16:20] <kunji> But now that I started the cp, I just get to wait until it finishes, and I'm not sure how long that will take.  For some reason I can't even see the sizes of the source and destination, so I'm really in the dark right now :P
[16:21] <fluitfries> kunji, in the past i have used a system monitor app to view the disk activity...  at least then i can tell it hasn't stalled
[16:23] <kunji> fluitfries: Yeah, I'm trying to rescue a system though, and so I'm just using a distro I'm not too familiar with (Puppy) to do so, not really sure if they have one, or where it is.  No worries though, I'll just give a few hours and if it's not done by then I'll try something else.
[16:23] <fluitfries> escott, in the past you reccommended fat32 as a filesystem type for my usb drive?  moving from the hfs+ fs to the fat32 usb then to my ext3 for storage. sound right?
[16:24] <fluitfries> kunji, almost every live distro has a resource monitor, look around
[16:25] <escott> fluitfries, it depends on what you are looking for in a filesystem. fat has the least features and most stringent size limitations (partition and file sizes) but is the most universally supported
[16:25] <kunji> fluitfries: well, I was able to get the size now with du, so now I just need to check in on the size of the destination folder.  And I can now see why it is taking so long... it's 37 GB
[16:26] <felipe__> hi
[16:26] <fluitfries> kunji, good for ya :)
[16:27] <fluitfries> escott, the only thing i am looking for is to transport the data between the hfs+ and the ext3.  using another hfs+ for the transport poses lots of compatibility issues obviously, so i'm looking to change that.
[16:27] <felipe__> alguien de aki habla español???
[16:27] <escott> !es | felipe_
[16:27] <felipe__> gracias solo queria saver tambien hablo ingles bueno eso creo xd
[16:28] <fluitfries> escott, and ntfs likely isn't going to mount r/w on my diskwarrior-booted mac...
[16:29] <escott> fluitfries, you could also look into removing the disk from the machine and putting it into the target system. it would cut out a transportation step
[16:29] <heart-rythms> is here someone who can help me with laditray and jack on ubuntu studio ?\
[16:29] <wols_> !es
[16:29] <fluitfries> escott, true, but since this is a disk hardware failure i want to handle it as little as possible until i've got the data copied somewhere.
[16:31] <thesadmafioso1> Anyone ever experienced intermittent connectivity with Atheros PCI wireless cards using ath9k kernel module?
[16:32] <jsm> I'm attempting to use KVM in ubuntu 12.0.4 with NAT networking, but my guests are unable to reach the outside world. net.ipv4.ip_forward=1 is enabled, and the VMs can ping the host, just not outside.  any ideas?
[16:34] <heart-rythms> can someone help me with jack or laditrY ? MY JACK GOT SICK
[16:34] <thesadmafioso1> I am getting a lot of this type of stuff in my syslog when I lose connections "ath9k: Failed to stop TX DMA in 100 msec after killing last frame"
[16:34] <fluitfries> escott, you know, i should just remove journaling from the hfs+ usb disk, then it will r/w in ubuntu, and that should be just fine...
[16:34] <thesadmafioso1> Also I'm getting: ath9k: Unable to stop TxDMA. Reset HAL!
[16:34] <HulkHogan> crickets
[16:34] <escott> fluitfries, why do you need write access?
[16:35] <fluitfries> escott, stupid diskwarrior boot disc provides no file management.  i have to mount up in another OS to clear the drive for the next transport of data.
[16:35] <fluitfries> escott, diskwarrior will copy data to the disk, but not remove it or move things...
[16:36] <jpastore> bb48q
[16:36] <jpastore> sigh
[16:37] <DarsVaeda> is there a tutorial how to deactivate all advertisment in ubuntu?
[16:37] <jpastore> Hi! I'm on a dell m90 running 12.04. My integrated SD card reader appears to not be working. any suggestions?
[16:37] <bazhang> !adlens | OerHeks
[16:38] <DarsVaeda> thanks
[16:38] <bazhang> whoops sorry OerHeks
[16:39] <lokofgch> ciao
[16:39] <heart-rythms> Can someone help me with my jack and laditray ??
[16:39] <lokofgch> !list
[16:40] <escott> jpastore, what appears in dmesg when you insert an SD card
[16:40] <jpastore> escott good question 1 sec
[16:40] <heart-rythms> Can someone help me with my jack and laditray ??
[16:41] <escott> !patience | heart-rythms
[16:41] <jpastore> escott: http://pastebin.com/kdxg1RcF
[16:41] <indio> Hi. Unity window management in 12.10 has rendered my Ubuntu experience almost insufferable.
[16:42] <indio> This release is worse.
[16:42] <escott> jpastore, exciting... clearly that hardware is doing something the driver is not expecting
[16:42] <thesadmafioso1> indio: Yeah . . . that's mainly why I'm leery on upgrading past 10.04 LTS though my time is running out I think
[16:43] <jpastore> indio, yea I' was unhappy upgrading to 12.04 I think you are selling me on not upgrading to 12.10...I'll wait to see what 13.04 is like.
[16:43] <thesadmafioso1> indio: also why I'm using GNOME
[16:43] <indio> thesadmafioso1: Yeah. Wise decision. I should have never upgraded to Unity.
[16:43] <escott> jpastore, above where you cut it off you might see some indication of what drive letter you could try and mount but the command interrupt errors means your chances of success are probably low
[16:43] <jpastore> I'm not a fan of unity at all
[16:43] <thesadmafioso1> indio: Should you really be calling it and "upgrade" :P
[16:43] <fluitfries> anyone else have youtube video issues with 12.10?  i get "orange rain" on my videos.
[16:43] <doomlord> i dont understand why unity gets so much flack, its good
[16:44] <jpastore> escott: it worked in previous version. should I try an external reader?
[16:44] <BluesKaj> indio, thesadmafioso1 , alot of ubuntu experience is based on the kind of hardware , so noit everyone suffers from problems ..most experiencews reported here are positive with mostly minor issues
[16:44] <indio> doomlord: Unity window management is literally horrible in some machines. See for yourself.
[16:44] <escott> jpastore, if you have the old kernel boot that and see if it works
[16:45] <crazy_anonymous> Hi
[16:45] <doomlord> i like the UI choices it makes
[16:45] <crazy_anonymous> :-)
[16:45] <jpastore> escott, nah I plugged in a card reader and it worked. I just wanted my internal reader to work
[16:45] <doomlord> no wasted vertical bars
[16:45] <doomlord> horizontal bars sorry
[16:45] <crazy_anonymous> Hi all?
[16:45] <indio> BluesKaj: So this bit should be disclosed. So people with the affected hardware know before upgrading, IMO.
[16:45] <thesadmafioso1> BluesKaj: I understand what you're getting at . . . for me it's also about the aesthetic. I just really don't like it.
[16:45] <KoloANONY> Hi all
[16:45] <crazy_anonymous> Hi
[16:45] <jpastore> doomlord: I don't like the flow of unity...it's like they hired some microsoft windows guys to try and make it worse.
[16:46] <thesadmafioso1> jpastore: that's the way I'd describe it too, I just won't like the way it flows
[16:46] <indio> Is there any alternative to Unity in 12.10?
[16:46] <thesadmafioso1> To each his own really.
[16:46] <doomlord> not at all.. its got smart decisions, i.e. getting rid of wasted space. handles maximize well
[16:46] <KoloANONY> hello
[16:46] <KoloANONY> somebody dare?
[16:46] <bazhang> lets get back on topic please
[16:46] <BluesKaj> indio , thesadmafioso1 , that's why I run KDE , altho it also has some problems , but I don't have to deal with unity or gnome :)
[16:47] <overclucker> indio: there are many. try xfce, lxde or kde
[16:48] <thesadmafioso1> indio: I think GNOME is an option, or cinnamon maybe?
[16:48] <indio> Like, with a few commands?
[16:49] <kunji> BluesKaj, Indio and thesadmafioso1: You can still use gnome 2.x if you want, personally I just got rid of the unity menu, and the univeral menu thing, and then added cairo dock.
[16:49] <bazhang> !notunity | indio
[16:49] <BluesKaj> kunji, no thanks , I'll stick with KDE
[16:49] <bazhang> indio, yes. lubuntu-desktop, xubuntu-desktop will give you those
[16:49] <indio> Thanks.
[16:50] <kunji> BluesKaj: not saying you should switch, just making sure everyone knows there's options, I personally just happen to dislike KDE :P
[16:50] <BluesKaj> kunji, too bad :)
[16:50] <bazhang> kunji, lets get back to ubuntu support please
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[16:51] <FloodBot1> tantanas: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
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[16:52] <jpastore> yea I might switch over to KDE in the near future. IDK what they were thinking with unity.
[16:52] <kunji> bazhang: Sorry, I thought we were doing support, didn't someone want to know about options besides Unity?  There was like a 2 line tangent at the end...
[16:52] <studio> can i upgrade from ubuntu 12.04.1 lts to 12.10?
[16:52] <bazhang> kunji, and it's done. lets move on please
[16:52] <bazhang> studio, yes
[16:52] <studio> banhang:how can i do that?
[16:53] <bazhang> studio, make sure the package manager is set to look for NON lts releases
[16:54] <studio> bazhang:where can i do that ?from ubuntu software center?(software sources)?
[16:55] <bazhang> studio, I do it in synaptic package manager, software sources should have that as well
[16:55] <mateusz_> hi
[16:56] <mateusz_> i have problem
[16:56] <bazhang> mateusz_, then ask the channel a question
[16:56] <studio> bazhang:yeah but i cant find the non lts releases..
[16:57] <slave_of_God> Hey guys
[16:57] <mateusz_> where is the chanel question
[16:58] <BluesKaj> studio, check for the "normal" setting
[16:58] <slave_of_God> Does anyone use ubuntu 12.04 with AMD 64?
[16:58] <studio> BluesKaj:there is not such thing
[16:58] <nibbler_> slave_of_God: i'd bet most
[16:59] <BluesKaj> studio, ok then there should be a non-LTS
[16:59] <slave_of_God> nibbler_, I'm experiencing freezing all time
[16:59] <escott> studio, you can also edit /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
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[16:59] <FloodBot1> antanas: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:59] <slave_of_God> I got 8GB ram, 1GB gpu
[16:59] <slave_of_God> 1,6 quad core
[17:00] <slave_of_God> I tried to open LibreOffice but it kept freezing my pc each time i tried to open it
[17:00] <slave_of_God> So I removed and replaced it with openoffice
[17:00] <slave_of_God> and now I experience the same issue
[17:01] <studio> Blueskaj,escott i can see in the ubuntu software tab: all checked (main,universe,restricted,multiverse,source code)
[17:02] <escott> slave_of_God, what degree of freezing
[17:03] <studio> Blueskaj,escott anyway i found it somehow :D
[17:03] <BluesKaj> escott , I'm not as familiar with the ubuntu software manager , shouldn't there be an optional OS upgrade section ?
[17:03] <BluesKaj> ok studio , good
[17:03] <studio> Blueskaj,escott there is in the update manager
[17:04] <NikP> When I play DVDs, watch Livestreams and so with VLC, my sound is very "scratched". Why is it so? (Sorry, I'm german ;-)
[17:04] <studio> Blueskaj, but you have to change the settings first from the ubuntu software sources to be able to receive new versions
[17:06] <cached> is there an alternative to fdisk -l that doesn't require sudo? i want to have a script not running as super user be able to identify plugged in sd cards (which the corresponding user will have access to)
[17:06] <user__> hello?
[17:06] <cached> sup user__
[17:06] <BluesKaj> studio, ..ok I usually remove the default gui software manager and use synaptic ...it's still my fav package manager , even tho I use it mostly as a reference
[17:06] <vesseliey> hi
[17:07] <user__> id like to restore grub
[17:07] <user__> but dunno how
[17:07] <arunkumar413> h, i have a graphic card on my system. i want to know if that is handling the graphics or not. in the system monitor it is not showing
[17:07] <escott> !grub | user__
[17:07] <user__> thx
[17:08] <escott> arunkumar413, it would not show anything like that in the system monitor. run "glxinfo" in a terminal and look at the renderer line
[17:08] <ryankask> hi everyone. I reported a bug for an issue I found in 12.10 but I'm not sure what package it belongs to and I want to set this value. ~/.Xmodmap is not read on login, as it has been in the past. What package would this belong to?
[17:08] <escott> arunkumar413, glxinfo | grep -i renderer
[17:09] <escott> cached, /proc/partitions
[17:09] <BluesKaj> arunkumar413, have you set it up as the default in the BIOS?  , and which card and driver ?
[17:09] <cached> escott: that won't help identify which is a sd card, though
[17:10] <escott> cached, or udisks
[17:10] <slave_of_God> escott, a degree where you leave your laptop open as soon as it freezes and ten hours later discover it still be freezed
[17:10] <arunkumar413> BluesKaj, don't know
[17:10] <Matt3223> would anyone happen to know the difference between ~/.ubuntuone/Purchased from Ubuntu One and ~/.local/share/ubuntuone/Purchased from Ubuntu One? Rhythmbox has two listings for each purchased song.
[17:11] <arunkumar413> BluesKaj, do i need to set up in BIOS
[17:11] <escott> slave_of_God, i mean does it respond to capslock or mouse pointer movements, can you ssh into it. can you switch to tty1, can you reisub it
[17:12] <slave_of_God> i don't know what ssh ttyt1 or reisub means, but mouse pointer is moveable
[17:12] <slave_of_God> escott,
[17:12] <BluesKaj> arunkumar413, open a terminal and run sudo lshw -C video
[17:12] <kunji> Matt3223: One is a local copy, and the other is on the Ubuntu One share, and is hence synced across all your computers using Ubuntu One, but you should have the local copy as well, since you don't have to continue to use Ubuntu One.
[17:12] <slave_of_God> escott, but the gui is freezed
[17:12] <NikP> When I play DVDs, watch Livestreams and so with VLC, my sound is very "scratched". Why is it so? (Sorry, I'm german ;-)
[17:12] <escott> slave_of_God, then that is not "frozen" thats a graphics glitch. the problem is with your graphics card drivers. ati or nvidia?
[17:13] <slave_of_God> escott, ati
[17:13] <Danon> can someone give me the name of the fedora support channel
[17:13] <escott> slave_of_God, fglrx or radeon driver? (proprietary or open source)
[17:14] <slave_of_God> escott, I think it's radeon
[17:14] <Tex_Nick> NickP : dose it only happen with VLC ?
[17:14] <slave_of_God> escott, no, it's not
[17:14] <arunkumar413> BluesKaj, http://pastebin.com/pFsaaihw
[17:14] <slave_of_God> escott, i see now
[17:15] <slave_of_God> escott, it's fglrx - can see it trough additional drivers which I have enabled
[17:15] <BluesKaj> Danon, what do you think it might be ? #fedora , maybe ?
[17:15] <NikP> Tex_Nick: Yes
[17:16] <slave_of_God> escott, what to do now :(
[17:16] <studio> does anybody know why when i open a tab,terminal or smth it starts showing it close to the top bar,its difficult to select the area and move it away..
[17:16] <BluesKaj> arunkumar413, use sudo plks , it gives more accurate results withe lshw command
[17:17] <BluesKaj> plks=please
[17:17] <escott> slave_of_God, so thats proprietary driver. not a lot we can say about that b/c the code is not open. you might find radeonhd more stable
[17:18] <Braden`> Hello
[17:18] <Braden`> Does anyone know what the Ubuntu package for the MySQL C API manpages?
[17:18] <arunkumar413> BluesKaj, no command found
[17:18] <slave_of_God> escott, but that won't fit my card
[17:18] <Matt3223> kunji: Thank you, that helps. the ones in ~/.ubuntuone are the synced files then... so if I delete the ~/.local copies I should still be in business cause Rhythmbox appears to be looking in both places?
[17:19] <BluesKaj> arunkumar413,  sudo lshw -C video
[17:19] <jimi_c> is the 12.10 amd64 server iso still broken in regards to the network installer? if so, are there any plans on getting a newer release of that out soon? I note the last build was on 10/17, so this issue has existed for 10 days now
[17:20] <escott> slave_of_God, why not?
[17:20] <Tex_Nick> NikP : you might try resetting VLC to it's default settings ... a few years ago i had a similar problem ... that worked for me ... however i had changeg some settings and messedit up
[17:20] <NikP> Tex_Nick: OK, I will test it
[17:20] <jcv> if I wanted to restart network manager, is there any way to truly do that w/o rebooting?  Once I loose the network manager widget in my menubar, I never seem capable of getting it back
[17:21] <studio> can i do something to change the default location on the screen that a program appears when i start it?
[17:22] <slave_of_God> escott, i'll try to fix it :-) Thanks for help
[17:22] <moondoggy> Anyone know how to get the gcc math libraries working on a new installation of 12.04?
[17:22] <moondoggy> I can't even get sqrt to work.
[17:22] <Tex_Nick> NikP : Tools/Preferences & at the bottom "Reset Preferences"
[17:22] <escott> !work | moondoggy
[17:22] <trism> moondoggy: gcc test.c -lm; thought might help to give a bit more details
[17:23] <moondoggy> I can paste a line...
[17:23] <moondoggy> /tmp/ccGgpkmz.o: In function `dEdX':
[17:23] <moondoggy> elast.c:(.text+0x17ec): undefined reference to `sqrt'
[17:24] <Tex_Nick> LOL ubottu is sarcastic today
[17:24] <trism> moondoggy: yes I figured the output, the line you used to compile would be more useful, though as long as you specify -lm at the end you should be okay
[17:24] <moondoggy> In 10.04, it found the math libraries.  With the same gcc ... -lm... I get those errors.
[17:24] <trism> moondoggy: position matters
[17:24] <trism> moondoggy: it has to come after the source files that reference it
[17:25] <moondoggy> I'm doing gcc -lm -o elast elast.c
[17:25] <moondoggy> I should move -lm to the end?
[17:25] <trism> moondoggy: yes that is incorrect
[17:25] <trism> moondoggy: yes, gcc -o elast elast.c -lm
[17:26] <moondoggy> Huh!  Never complained on any other linux.
[17:26] <moondoggy> Got lucky, I guess.
[17:26] <trism> moondoggy: it used to work before 11.10, but mostly by accident, the linker would once link implicitly with all libraries passed it, now it only links if the symbols are referenced
[17:26] <Toph2> with 12.04 and unity, I have to supply my password each time the computer suspends, sleeps, hibernates or whatever it is doing. 2 questions,, 1) where do I set what my computer does after sitting idle?  2) how do get rid of the need to log in after suspending/etc?
[17:26] <savio> hello
[17:27] <trism> moondoggy: and it searched for symbols left to right on the commandline
[17:27] <moondoggy> Su'm'gun.  Thanks, trism.
[17:27] <moondoggy> Funny--the guy who made up this install script is a good programmer, so I was sure it was my new 12.04.
[17:28] <moondoggy> Thanks for the help, friends, before I started ripping my computer apart.
[17:28] <trism> moondoggy: it isn't really surprising, many many projects had to be fixed (and we are still finding broken ones)
[17:28] <escott> Toph2, when are you providing this password?
[17:29] <moondoggy> trism, Well, thanks!  Anything I can help YOU with?  :)
[17:29] <trism> moondoggy: no I'm alright, thanks though
[17:29] <escott> moondoggy, install script... ie not a makefile
[17:29] <Toph2> escott,,, when i fire up after a suspended term
[17:29] <moondoggy> escott, no... my crap software is all in python with a couple of borrowed C programs.
[17:30] <Toph2> escott,,, i don't mind doing the password when I boot, but not every time I come back to the computer
[17:30] <moondoggy> I don't understand "make" yet.
[17:30] <moondoggy> Is it still the usual way to install things?
[17:30] <moondoggy> (make)
[17:30] <Calinou> make = compile
[17:31] <Calinou> make install = fuff up your install by putting everything to /usr/bin, or for working things, move binaries
[17:31] <escott> Toph2, hit the windows key and type "Lock" that should get you to the brightness and lock settings
[17:31] <moondoggy> Calinou, I'm afraid I'll mess up someone's computer, so I just use a local script to call g77 and gcc wherever she wants to compile.
[17:31] <moondoggy> (Let her take the risk.)
[17:32] <moondoggy> Am I going to mess up people's computers with make?
[17:32] <Calinou> #sincewhengirlscompilethings #hashtags
[17:32] <Toph2> escott,,, both questions answered right there,, thanks
[17:32] <Calinou> no
[17:33] <Toph2> escott,,, are there sleep, hibernate or suspend options as well, or just suspend?
[17:33] <moondoggy> Hey, girls compile things just fine.
[17:33] <moondoggy> Ok, I'll start thinking about make.
[17:34] <moondoggy> I am gun shy from years of trying to use "make" on an old Digital Alpha piece of crap.
[17:34] <moondoggy> I couldn't install xeyes on that thing.
[17:34] <Calinou> xeyes is useless
[17:34] <escott> Toph2, probably treated identically in the gui, but if you have an encrypted home that will probably require you to insert a password to resume from hibernate
[17:34] <Toph2> escott,,, ok,, i don't have that, so this should help
[17:34] <moondoggy> Nevertheless, I couldn't install it, so I never knew xeyes is useless.  :)
[17:35] <moondoggy> Calinou, I hear it's hours of fun, though.
[17:35] <moondoggy> So, does apt-get run "make?"
[17:35] <jrib> aw, why don't you like xeyes...
[17:36] <alky> hi guys, i want to change the dependencies of a .deb package. how do i do that?
[17:36] <jrib> alky: why do you want to do that?
[17:36] <alky> trying to follow that last comment here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/phpmyadmin/+bug/1012670
[17:37] <jrib> alky: that comment tells you the steps
[17:37] <escott> alky, i would just inject the "required" but in fact optional package. see !pinning it probably has some examples there
[17:38] <moondoggy> escott, Calinou, thanks.  I'll put "make" on my to-learn list.
[17:38] <escott> moondoggy, if you are working with python make probably isnt desirable
[17:38] <alky> i am not sure how they do that "Then I use the videbcontrol script to change its dependencies"
[17:39] <alky> escott, what do you mean by "inject required"?
[17:39] <moondoggy> It's only a couple of command-line things I call from python that have to be compiled.
[17:39] <moondoggy> And, anyway, the gcc and g77 commands in a script work for now.
[17:39] <moondoggy> If I want to make it install from apt-get, would I then need a make file?
[17:39] <escott> alky, http://blog.ianbicking.org/pythons-makefile.html
[17:40] <escott> alky, sorry moondoggy ^^^
[17:40] <alky> it's ok
[17:40] <jrib> alky: that's just some script you can find on google that expands the .deb, lets you edit the file with the dependencies, and then builds the .deb again
[17:40] <moondoggy> Thanks, escott.
[17:41] <moondoggy> Is there "karma" in this room?
[17:41] <moondoggy> escott++
[17:42] <escott> moondoggy, read the comments because that is supposedly superceded by buildit.... not sure what is the main tool used these days by python packagers, but your build script should be driven by your predominant target language
[17:42] <moondoggy> Ok, hang loose, escott.  I have to go break some other things now.  Thanks a lot!
[17:46] <jimi_c> I just confirmed the 12.10 amd64 server iso still fails at network installs at the "Install the System" step. Any info as to when a new iso will be released to fix this issue?
[17:47] <Myrtti> jimi_c: I'm sure the bug report will be more informative on that
[17:47] <escott> jimi_c, file a bug report. this is support not bug fixing channel
[17:48] <jimi_c> ok thanks
[17:49] <vl4kn0> hello, I'm trying to setup thinkpad trackpount using udev. I have these lines in my /etc/udev/rules.d/10-thinkpad.rules: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1310199/ but I keep getting this errors http://paste.ubuntu.com/1310208/
[17:50] <studio> nick me
[17:50] <escott> stop that
[17:50] <metallico> sorry i got disconnected. anyway found this as a solution http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=35136
[17:50] <escott> !ops
[17:50] <metallico> thanks
[17:51] <simple0ne> nick simpleone
[17:51] <IdleOne> !nickspam > simple_one
[17:56] <basketballstar> when i insert a blank disk in ubuntu 12.10 i get Unable to mount Blank DVD+R Disc location is already mounted
[17:57] <thesadmafioso> Could I get anyone to look at a pastebin of some logs concerning my "ath9k" kernel module for my wireless adapter and tell me what they think might be going on?
[17:57] <basketballstar> Unable to mount Blank DVD+R Disc location is already mounted
[17:58] <ncmccx> hello I have an acer Aspire one 725 and the brightness settings dont work. It shows the brightness bar but moving it up and down has no effect please help me been at this for over 24 hours
[17:58] <Froward> what basic system information should I send with a bug report?
[17:59] <escott> ncmccx, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Debugging/Backlight
[17:59] <dr-devil> Hi
[17:59] <ncmccx> escott, thanks i will read that
[18:00] <bluestring> how do I get rid of amazon search results in ubuntu 12.10?
[18:00] <jrib> !adlens | bluestring
[18:00] <neuralnaut> hello all
[18:00] <naoufal> does ubuntu 12.10  support amd/ati drivers ?
[18:01] <rihen> gnome 3.6 installation on ubuntu
[18:01] <bluestring> ok, thanks!
[18:01] <neuralnaut> when does gnome 3.8 come out?
[18:02] <rihen> neuralnaut, gnome 3.6 is out
[18:02] <_riegersn> im unable to log into my user session. currently im logged into my workstation as guest. when trying to log into my user account the screen goes black for a few seconds then back to the login screen. i tried each of the available desktops (gnome, gnome classic, ubuntu, ubuntu 2d)
[18:03] <neuralnaut> oh 3.6 was just released
[18:03] <neuralnaut> I see
[18:03] <neuralnaut> thanks rihen
[18:03] <metallico> this hack that i just did (changing the dependencies) will that cause any problems when a new version of the package comes out?
[18:03] <_riegersn> I work from home and this is my work computer, I really need help getting in
[18:04] <escott> metallico, probably
[18:04] <sathish> hai
[18:04] <metallico> so i have to skip the package when doing an update and apply the same hack everytime?
[18:04] <tata> why ubuntu 12.04 allways need password for everything, how to turn off that?
[18:04] <basketballstar> Unable to mount Blank DVD+R Disc location is already mounted
[18:05] <escott> metallico, not knowing exactly what you did i cant say, but if you modified the package to remove a dependency and did not pin your version then yes
[18:05] <metallico> unless they fix the bug :)
[18:05] <metallico> thanks a lot
[18:06] <naoufal> hey guys, anyone running amd gpus and ubuntu 12.10 here ?
[18:06] <ubuntu> hi
[18:06] <Guest83121> hi
[18:06] <Mister_Argent> Quick question -- any of you guy sknow how well Ubuntu runs on a Vaio P?
[18:07] <Mister_Argent> a quick bit of google-fu would imply 'well enough'.
[18:07] <Guest83121> I'm looking for help installing ubuntu
[18:07] <Guest83121> I cannot find my harddrive
[18:07] <escott> !hcl | Mister_Argent
[18:07] <thesadmafioso> I am having trouble with my wireless adapter. Would someone care to take a look at the output of "/var/log$ cat syslog | grep -e "ath9k" " Where "ath9k" is the kernel module for my Atheros wireless card?
[18:07] <Mister_Argent> thankee sai.
[18:07] <thesadmafioso> I am looking for some insight.
[18:07] <Mister_Argent> kind of want to try Ubuntu on my Nexus 7 but i don't have a system running it handy
[18:08] <Mister_Argent> (i do have a Mint 13 system handy, but i doubt it'd work for this.)
[18:08] <escott> Guest83121, where can you not find it
[18:08] <wilee-nilee> Mister_Argent, There a couple of apps at google play that will allow a chroot, does not run all that well I would suspect.
[18:09] <Guest83121> I cannot find it in the install program
[18:09] <Mister_Argent> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Nexus7 This, of course. i assume the easiest option would be to just wait for a recovery-flashable version
[18:09] <Guest83121> I have now booted linux through my flashdrive which has the install program
[18:09] <dr_willis> \
[18:09] <Mister_Argent> shouldn't take too long for the XDA fellows to whip that up.
[18:09] <escott> Guest83121, can you boot to the livecd and run "sudo parted -l" and put that into paste.ubuntu.com and send us the link
[18:10] <storrgie> I'm running a couple 12.04 servers and I noted recently that my Linode (which is 12.04) is on kernel 3.5.2 where as the ones I manage and let update from official sources are on 3.2.0. Am I not updating properly?
[18:10] <Guest83121> what's the live cd?
[18:10] <Guest83121> i dont have a cd driver in my pc
[18:10] <Mister_Argent> you can also use a thumb drive.
[18:10] <escott> storrgie, you might be subscribing to different kinds of updates (security vs normal updates)
[18:10] <dr_willis> Guest83121:  so what did you boot ti get to the installer?
[18:11] <escott> Guest83121, when you boot the installer select "try ubuntu first"
[18:11] <ThinkT510> storrgie: the default kernel is 3.2.0 for 12.04
[18:11] <storrgie> alright thanks
[18:11] <escott> Guest83121, thats what we mean by "livecd" or "liveusb"
[18:11] <basketballstar> dr_willis,
[18:11] <naoufal> does ubuntu 12.10  support amd/ati drivers ?
[18:11] <basketballstar> Unable to mount Blank DVD+R Disc location is already mounted dr_willis
[18:11] <escott> naoufal, yes
[18:11] <dr_willis> basketballstar:  if its blank.. theres nothign to mount..
[18:12] <Guest83121> okay, so i have booted linux through my usb drive
[18:12] <Guest83121> i have to restart pc and select another option?
[18:12] <naoufal> well, each time I install them, unity stops working
[18:12] <basketballstar> i need to burn an iso to it
[18:12] <dr_willis> basketballstar:  so you use one of the burning apps. you dont mount it.
[18:12] <escott> Guest83121, one option takes you directly to the installer, the other brings you to a live system. we need the live system to be able to debug this
[18:12] <dr_willis> !burn > basketballstar
[18:13] <naoufal> as of right now, unity is unable to start
[18:13] <escott> dr_willis, his complaint is that udisks tries to mount it and then fails loudly
[18:13] <Guest83121> i think im in the live system now?
[18:13] <Guest83121> i booted the system though the usb stick
[18:13] <Guest83121> i have windows 7 installed on the other HDD and it has 2 partitions 40gb/40gb
[18:13] <escott> Guest83121, hit the windows key and type "terminal" and start the terminal application
[18:14] <Guest83121> what do i write here"?
[18:14] <escott> Guest83121, that will bring up a text window with a blinking cursor in which you need to type "sudo parted -l[ENTER]"
[18:14] <escott> Guest83121, then copy and paste that to paste.ubuntu.com and send us the resulting link
[18:14] <Guest83121> where i paste this text?
[18:14] <Guest83121> thanks
[18:15] <Guest83121> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1310283/
[18:15] <Guest83121> here you go
[18:15] <escott> Guest83121, you cut off some stuff at the top. can you repaste with the first 4 lines
[18:16] <Guest83121> sure thing
[18:16] <Panzershreck> Hey. Im trying to install ubuntu 12.04 onto a computer with win7. Im installing from an usb drive. Im at the part of the installation where it asks for the place to put linux.
[18:17] <Panzershreck> The install now button props a message about no root file system is defined
[18:17] <Guest83121> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1310288/
[18:17] <Guest83121> here you go
[18:17] <MonkeyDust> Panzershreck  you need free space, a partition, a part of your disk
[18:17] <dr_willis> 'root filesytem' is where '/' gets mounted to.
[18:18] <escott> Guest83121, thats a strange partition structure. two NTFS (windows type) partitions on 63GB the other 97GB. do you know what is on each?
[18:18] <dr_willis> a normal install has a / partition, and a swap partition.,
[18:18] <Guest83121> other has windows 7 in it, another has futurama season 3 ^^
[18:18] <Panzershreck> Its given me a device /dev/sda with /sda1 , 2 and 3
[18:19] <MonkeyDust> Panzershreck  make sure it's free
[18:19] <escott> Guest83121, ok well you are going to have to shrink or remove one of those to make space for ubuntu
[18:19] <Guest83121> i want to remove windows 7
[18:19] <Panzershreck> I can create a new partition but that shumps all the other ones in thenew one
[18:20] <dr_willis> id say backup your videos to somewhere  Guest83121  that way you can partion the whole hd as needed.
[18:20] <naoufal> How can I get the AMD driver running on Ubuntu 12.10 ? i've googled for solutions, but none of them works
[18:20] <Guest83121> I dont mind losing the futurama
[18:20] <basketballstar> Error opening `/home/harrismrubin/Downloads/iATKOS_S3_version2/iATKOS_S3_version2.iso': Value too large for defined data type
[18:20] <dr_willis> Guest83121:  so basically theres Nothing on the HD you want to keep?
[18:20] <Guest83121> But the biggest problem is, that I cant find the harddriver in the installer
[18:20] <Guest83121> Yeah, right
[18:20] <escott> Guest83121, i would discourage you from removing windows 7 but keeping an NTFS data partition. linux NTFS drivers are reverse engineered but MSFT does not publish specifications. usually they work fine, but they cannot fix a broken NTFS filesystem in many cases
[18:21] <Panzershreck> So do i need to crate a new partition table and if needed are there any negative aspects
[18:21] <dr_willis> Guest83121:   the installer should have an option somthing like 'use the entire disk' that will delete everything and partion how it wants
[18:21] <escott> Guest83121, im not sure why the installer would not be showing you the disk. you might just want to start the installer and send us some screenshots of where it is not working
[18:21] <naoufal> How can I get the AMD driver running on Ubuntu 12.10 ? i've googled for solutions, but none of them works
[18:21] <dr_willis> Guest83121:  be SURE you got backups of anything you want to keep.
[18:22] <basketballstar> burn large iso to disk in 12.10
[18:22] <Guest83121> nothing i want to keep on the hdd anymore
[18:22] <Guest83121> backed up on external - removed it
[18:22] <dr_willis> naoufal:  the fglrx driver is in the repos.  but it may depend on your exact chipset.
[18:22] <MonkeyDust> !partition > Panzershreck read this first
[18:22] <Guest83121> taking some s/s now
[18:22] <dr_willis> Guest83121:  you may want to just delete the partions now so the whole disk is unallocated. and reboot/restart the installer. ;)
[18:23] <Panzershreck> !partition
[18:23] <Guest83121> how do i do this?
[18:23] <naoufal> dr_willis : radeon 6770m (switchable graphics btw)
[18:24] <rajmahendra> i just upgraded to 12.10 and when i run my comptuer i am gettign some issue in graphics some app based on graphics are not wrorking !
[18:24] <rajmahendra> anyone help me
[18:26] <kaan> hallo
[18:26] <LtRipley> hi there
[18:26] <kaan> ich hab grad ubuntu neu installiert, alle partitionen bis auf /home plattgemacht
[18:26] <kaan> wie kann ich jetzt die home wieder einbinden
[18:26] <MonkeyDust> !de
[18:26] <kaan> ?
[18:26] <LtRipley> try #ubuntu-de for german
[18:26] <kaan> sorry
[18:26] <kaan> i saw :-)
[18:26] <kaan> thanks
[18:26] <FloodBot1> kaan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:27] <MonkeyDust> macht nicht aus :)
[18:27] <Guest83121> http://i49.tinypic.com/2zjm68z.png
[18:27] <Tex_Nick> rajmahendra : I doubt I can help you ... but before anyone else could they would need to know your graphics hardware
[18:27] <escott> Guest83121, what option did you select in terms of "install alongside/replace" initially
[18:28] <Guest83121> didnt ask me
[18:28] <Guest83121> first screen: select langue
[18:28] <escott> Guest83121, weird. i would echo dr_willis' suggestion and say you should just delete the partitions now and restart the installer
[18:28] <Guest83121> how i delete it?
[18:29] <escott> !partitition | Guest83121
[18:29] <escott> !partition | Guest83121
[18:29] <basketballstar> can i burn an iso to flash drive dr_willis
[18:29] <Guest83121> should i use gparted or partition manager?
[18:29] <wols_> basketballstar: you can. what OS do you run right now?
[18:29] <escott> Guest83121, since you dont care about the data you could even "sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda" and let that run for a few minutes before hitting ctrl-c
[18:29] <Guest83121> nvm
[18:30] <Guest83121> yeah i could try that
[18:30] <basketballstar> UBUNTU i want to burn hacknitosh
[18:30] <wols_> basketballstar: hackintoshes are totally outside of the supported things here in #ubuntu and freenode
[18:31] <basketballstar> simply how do i install a iso to flash drive
[18:31] <Guest83121> @escott nothing is happening in the terminal with the command you gave me
[18:31] <xmrk> hey guys, I am wondering if I can boot from live cd into terminal without loading the gui environment?
[18:32] <escott> Guest83121, its doing its thing in the background... you only need to overwrite the first few hundred bytes so its done enough by now. Ctrl-C to kill it, then sudo partprobe and sudo parted -l should show no partitions on the disk
[18:32] <escott> basketballstar, it depends on what you are trying to install, so you need to take your question about illegal pirated software to another channel
[18:33] <basketballstar> hacknitosh is illegal??? it said it was legal
[18:33] <escott> basketballstar, it is illegal to run OS X on anything that is not manufactured by apple
[18:33] <sdollins> Installing OS X a non-Apple computer is against the EULA which is a legally binding contract.
[18:34] <basketballstar> can i be arrested
[18:34] <sdollins> And I'm sure a case could be made under DMCA.
[18:34] <Guest83121> nothing really happens with partprobe and parted :/
[18:34] <ahzi> another reason to avoid icrap$
[18:34] <basketballstar> ok then i guess im not download ing it
[18:34] <Guest83121> Warning: Unable to open /dev/fd0 read-write (Read-only file system).  /dev/fd0 has been opened read-only.
[18:34] <wols_> basketballstar: it depends on your country if it's legal or not. however, freenode is based in the US and its policy is that this is not an allowed topic. so please stop. that means sdollins  and escott too
[18:35] <escott> Guest83121, in linux "silence is success" but sudo parted -l should show the disk as empty
[18:35] <wols_> Guest83121: might be a dirty filesystem. unmount and fsck it
[18:35] <sdollins> wols_: I said it wasn't legal!
[18:35] <sdollins> Jeez.
[18:35] <ahzi> freenode is in england i thought
[18:35] <basketballstar> what's better? mac or vista?
[18:35] <Guest83121> hmm
[18:35] <wols_> !ops please make basketballstar stop
[18:35] <Guest83121> im trying to create a partition table on /dev/sda
[18:35] <Guest83121> which should i pick? msdos?
[18:36] <escott> Guest83121, yes
[18:36] <Panzershreck> Sorry, i tried to understand how to make the partitions to work butit seems im dumb
[18:36] <wols_> Guest83121: if it's a disk <2TB, then yes msdos
[18:36] <Guest83121> error while creating a partition table?
[18:36] <wols_> Guest83121: how did you start your fdisk program?
[18:36] <Guest83121> file system is now unallocated same as partition
[18:36] <basketballstar> whats better linux or vista
[18:36] <Guest83121> i used gparted from the start menu
[18:36] <escott> Guest83121, rerun sudo partprobe and restart the installer
[18:37] <Guest83121> what should happen / how long should i wait?
[18:37] <wols_> Panzershreck: do you have free, unpartitioned space on your harddisk?
[18:37] <Guest83121> Error: Partition(s) 2, 5 on /dev/sda have been written, but we have been unable to inform the kernel of the change, probably because it/they are in use.  As a result, the old partition(s) will remain in use.  You should reboot now before making further changes.
[18:38] <escott> Guest83121, after partprobe? it should be silent and it is done when the prompt in the terminal reappears
[18:38] <xmrk> how can I boot to terminal with only live ubuntu cd?
[18:38] <Panzershreck> I think, only think, everythings in 3 different parts.
[18:38] <wols_> Panzershreck: under what OS are you right now?
[18:38] <Panzershreck> Most of my hdd space is allocated in my OS:C drive
[18:38] <escott> Guest83121, you can unmount those partitions with "sudo umount /dev/sda2; sudo umount /dev/sda5; sudo partprobe" or just reboot
[18:39] <Panzershreck> I am trying to install ubuntu 12.04 onto a machine that has win7
[18:40] <wols_> Panzershreck: answer my question. under what OS are you now?
[18:40] <Panzershreck> I read the help section but i dont see how can i add all the needed partitions..
[18:40] <Guest83121> still no luck with the installer & terminal is silent
[18:40] <Panzershreck> I am in the ubuntu installer so the ubuntu 12.04 os id say
[18:40] <Guest83121> gave warning now: Warning: Unable to open /dev/fd0 read-write (Read-only file system).  /dev/fd0 has been opened read-only.
[18:40] <Kartagis> !patch
[18:41] <yeehi> Can I use google hangouts without signing up for google plus? How do I do this?
[18:41] <escott> Guest83121, does cat /proc/partitions list sda anything?
[18:41] <escott> !ot | yeeh
[18:41] <escott> !ot | yeehi
[18:41] <shirley99cr> when i lauch firefox in ubuntu 12.10 my side app launcher disappears - then when i minimize firefox i still don't have the app launcher but there's some kind of bar across the top of the workspace and when i click on it the app launcher comes back - what causes this?
[18:41] <yeehi> hello escott - i don't understand....
[18:41] <Guest83121> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ cat /proc/partitions list sda
[18:41] <Guest83121> major minor  #blocks  name
[18:41] <Guest83121>    7        0     683116 loop0
[18:41] <Guest83121>    8        0  156290904 sda
[18:41] <Guest83121>    8       16    3919872 sdb
[18:41] <FloodBot1> Guest83121: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:41] <Guest83121>    8       17    3919808 sdb1
[18:42] <Panzershreck> I booted the installer from a usb stick.
[18:42] <Guest83121> sorry about the flood
[18:42] <escott> Guest83121, so the kernel knows that there are no partitions, but the installer isn't working after you restart the installer (ie cancel out and reclick on the "install ubuntu" icon)
[18:42] <Guest83121> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1310359/
[18:42] <Guest83121> yeah i did that
[18:42] <wols_> Panzershreck: sudo fdisk -l    and unlike Guest83121 here, do not paste it in channel but use a pastebin
[18:43] <escott> Guest83121, perhaps that floppy disk error is confusing the installer. do you actually have a floppy disk
[18:43] <Guest83121> i do not
[18:43] <Guest83121> neither a drive for it
[18:44] <escott> Guest83121, for some reason your motherboard is reporting to the partitioning tools that you do, but since you dont actually have on you get that weird fd0 error
[18:44] <Guest83121> anything i can do?
[18:45] <escott> Guest83121, does "lsmod | grep floppy" or "lsmod | grep fd" list anything
[18:46] <Guest83121> a red floppy comes
[18:46] <Guest83121> floppy                 60310  0
[18:47] <escott> Guest83121, lets remove your floppy driver since its confused "sudo rmmod floppy"
[18:47] <wols_> rmmod it
[18:50] <Guest83121> after removing the floppy the installer still doesnt recognize it
[18:50] <escott> wols_, do you know how to start the installer from the cli? his disk selection window is blank for some reason
[18:51] <escott> is the installer ubiquity?
[18:52] <Guest83121> did u ask me?
[18:52] <Guest83121> i think so
[18:52] <Guest83121> it's an icon on the desk sayins install ubuntu 11.10 (it's an older version because i had weird problems with the 12.xx)
[18:53] <escott> Guest83121, was asking the channel in gneeral. you could try running "gksudo ubiquity" from the terminal. it should start the installer as if you clicked on the desktop icon, and it should dump text messages to the terminal which might indicate what is going on
[18:54] <escott> Guest83121, there is also "gksudo ubiquity -d" which logs messages to /var/log/installer/debug
[18:55] <escott> Guest83121, /var/log/partman may also have some helpful information
[18:55] <Guest83121> several warning have already lauunched, i'll post in the pastebin
[18:55] <Guest83121> escott, the var log partman doesnt work
[18:56] <escott> Guest83121, these aren't commands, they are file locations
[18:57] <wols_> escott: sorry, I don't
[18:57] <Guest83121> ah ^^
[18:58] <Guest83121> can i open it through terminal?
[18:58] <adicto360> guayaquil channel please
[18:58] <escott> Guest83121, gedit /path/to/file
[18:59] <adicto360> anyone please a channel from ecuador guayaquil
[18:59] <Guest83121> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1310417/
[18:59] <Guest83121> here is the termianl command
[18:59] <escott> !es | adicto360
[19:00] <Guest83121> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1310422/
[19:00] <Guest83121> the log
[19:01] <jonas-k> hi . how to set up  bios in pcsx2 emulator?
[19:01] <escott> Guest83121, weird partman isn't even seeing /dev/sda
[19:01] <Guest83121> hm
[19:01] <escott> Guest83121, i have no idea why that would happen. you could try the alternate installer
[19:01] <escott> !alternate | Guest83121
[19:01] <Guest83121> is there anything i can do for the hardware?
[19:02] <adicto360> i have no problem talking in english but i want to talk to people from guayaquil ecuador
[19:02] <Guest83121> escott, it says that it's discontinued ^^
[19:02] <escott> adicto360, there is no guayaquil channel
[19:02] <escott> Guest83121, yeah gotta love that. really smart decision by canonical
[19:02] <jonas-k> hi . how to set up  bios in pcsx2 emulator?
[19:03] <Guest83121> i will be right back
[19:03] <Guest83121> i will restart my computer
[19:03] <escott> Guest83121, since you are using an older version you still have an alternate installer though
[19:03] <Guest83121> be right back
[19:03] <adicto360> then where can i find a guayaquil channel from which app
[19:03] <Guest83121> escott i try to check if bios is ok
[19:03] <escott> adicto360, if you need local help check if there is a guayaquil LUG
[19:03] <Panzershreck>  I... Somehow got the thing to install.
[19:04] <kunji> adicto360: you could start a channel for guayaquil, it's not a question of what app you're using.
[19:04] <adicto360> im new to this please help
[19:04] <Panzershreck> Dear god i hope i didnt explode my whole windows out of the park
[19:04] <escott> adicto360, http://www.ecualug.org/
[19:04] <Panzershreck> And if i did, dear god i hope this ubuntu install works
[19:04] <adicto360> what chance do i have to find people from where i live thats the point
[19:05] <OerHeks> adicto360, 50/50
[19:05] <adicto360> ok thanks....
[19:05] <kunji> adicto360: no idea, I would scour the internet for a local user group I guess.
[19:05] <Panzershreck> I tried to eat space from out of the end of the
[19:07] <Panzershreck> Im having second thoughts about this...
[19:09] <marcus> hi, im trying winusb on usb, and im getting error Error: the device /dev/sdb2 is not special block ! any1 know?
[19:09] <steven__> Where can I find a really good tutorial on learning Ubuntu's command line?
[19:09] <tonyyarusso> !cli
[19:10] <sydney> https://dedected.org/svn/trunk how can i copy these files
[19:10] <kunji> steven__: This site has a lot of good information and examples: http://www.cyberciti.biz/
[19:10] <steven__> Thanks
[19:11] <mechteam> network connectivity problem in remastered precise ...help me..I am able to run tor and browse net via its proxy....but no connectivity in terminal or browser :(
[19:11] <sydney> help
[19:11] <papsmear> buenos dias
[19:12] <sleepy1> hi :)
[19:12] <papsmear> hi
[19:12] <Guest58762> hello ... i've installed some unity web apps and now I've removed all of them but they still have icons on the mail notification menu on the top bar ... does anyone know how to remove them?
[19:12] <mechteam> network connectivity problem in my remastered precise ...help me..I am able to run tor and browse net via its proxy....but no connectivity in terminal or browser :(
[19:13] <sydney> want some help to install to dect 3 card on ubuntu
[19:13] <escott> mechteam, do you need to export http_proxy variable?
[19:13] <vokevybez_> does anyone know of a vimrc online manual
[19:13] <vokevybez_> ?
[19:13] <mechteam> escott I am able to connect to mobile network...but unable to surf ....or even ping
[19:15] <papsmear> test
[19:16] <sydney> Hello i wanted to know how to install #include <linux/kernel.h>
[19:16] <sydney> #include <linux/module.h>
[19:16] <sydney> #include <linux/interrupt.h>
[19:16] <sydney> #include <linux/delay.h>
[19:16] <sydney> #include <linux/init.h>
[19:16] <FloodBot1> sydney: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:16] <sydney> #include <linux/fs.h>
[19:16] <kunji> sydney: what do you mean install?  Those are header files...
[19:18] <papsmear> test
[19:18] <ThinkT510> !test | papsmear
[19:18] <tello14> my java has been faulty lately and i want to reinstall,  how would i be able to remove all my java errors?
[19:18] <papsmear> ty
[19:18] <yeehi> What is the downside of using Google groups?
[19:18] <jrib> !ot | yeehi
[19:19] <sobersabre> hi.
[19:19] <papsmear> hi
[19:19] <the> im back now
[19:19] <papsmear> wb
[19:19] <sobersabre> I've just downloaded ubuntu cd (x86_64), and brasero complains about no free space, "there is not enough free space on the disk".
[19:19] <quest> hi
[19:19] <sobersabre> the media I'm using is of "700MB"
[19:20] <ThinkT510> sobersabre: 12.10 doesn't fit on 700mb cds
[19:20] <tello14>  i need to know a command to remove all my java files
[19:20] <escott> sobersabre, its an image file. it should be burned directly
[19:20] <tello14> anyone got anything?
[19:20] <sobersabre> the .iso is of 764MB.
[19:20] <quest> escott i couldnt find anything in the bios and the problem still exists
[19:20] <mechteam> Need help .......network connectivity problem in my remastered precise ...help me..I am able to run tor and browse net via its proxy....but no connectivity in terminal (ping) or browser :( what can be problem ?
[19:20] <Panzershreck> Uhh.. Hi.
[19:20] <escott> quest, i would try the alternate installer
[19:21] <Panzershreck> I managed to install Ubuntu.
[19:21] <quest> how can i do this
[19:21] <davejones> hi everyone
[19:21] <sobersabre> so, it seems the braser app is correct... is there a way I can enable "overburning" with brasero ? would it work on such size?
[19:21] <Panzershreck> But im a leeetttlle bit worried it didnt prompt me to dualboot my system on startup
[19:21] <davejones> can someone help me with a fonts issue?
[19:21] <escott> sobersabre, you could try and overburn but do it SLOWLY and do it with wodim. 64MB may be a bit too much to expect from overburn though
[19:21] <ThinkT510> sobersabre: no, it won't work, 12.10 doesn't fit on 700mb cd
[19:21] <sobersabre> ThinkT510: thanks.
[19:21] <sobersabre> is there a full DVD of ubuntu then ?
[19:22] <sobersabre> I mean I have a dvd media, and only 700MB CDs.
[19:22] <tello14> could someone please help me remove all my java?
[19:22] <ViaNocturna85> sobersabre: do you have a usb?
[19:22] <papsmear> tello14, look for java in the software center
[19:22] <sobersabre> ViaNocturna85: good point :)
[19:22] <papsmear> then mark all for deletion
[19:22] <sobersabre> do I need to run syslinux or something ?
[19:22] <escott> quest, where you downloaded ubuntu there should be an alternate iso
[19:22] <ViaNocturna85> sobersabre: :)
[19:23] <alien2050> hi, just wondering... when using UCK, if I want to upgrade to the latest kernel on the iso, how do I do that?
[19:23] <genera> tello14, and tell us which of the Javas you have
[19:23] <escott> sobersabre, you can burn the iso to dvd+r
[19:23] <quest> i used the program to put it to the flash drive directly, so i didnt download it anywhere
[19:23] <vikey__> yes
[19:23] <quest> automated process
[19:23] <sobersabre> escott: I think ViaNocturna85 has a good point: I'll prepare a bootable usb device.
[19:23] <tello14> papsmear: i also have some downloaded from oracle. and when i remove it from the software centre, it doesnt have to download back, it instantly installs
[19:23] <tello14> when i reinstall
[19:24] <davejones> is there a safe way to install fonts on ubuntu? i used the manual way recomended here []https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fonts] and screwed up my system, had to reinstall it.
[19:24] <pingUone> what file are the proxy settings?
[19:24] <pingUone> in?
[19:24] <nathanel1itane> i am having an issue with a function i have apended to bashrc: it's a wrapper for dpkg to install from url, but when i call it from another script, it says the command does not exist
[19:25] <escott> quest, 11.10 right? http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.10/
[19:25] <sobersabre> hm.. I looked at the official docs, and they cover either windows, or osx or "ubuntu". I'm on fedora.
[19:25] <genera> tello14,  just being curious. why do you want to de-install it?
[19:25] <sobersabre> is there a ready to eat howto on how to prepare a usb to boot with ubuntu 12.10 ?
[19:25] <nathanel1itane> and when calling it manually, it gives me a dpkg error: need an action option
[19:25] <sobersabre> tello14: there are ways of telling what java the system uses with "upadte-alternatives"
[19:25] <ThinkT510> sobersabre: dd the iso
[19:25] <quest> how can i force close a program
[19:25] <escott> nathanel1itane, bash functions won't work that way. you would need to source the bashrc in your other script to get that function declaration
[19:26] <sobersabre> ThinkT510: hm... dd if=file.iso of=/dev/sda1 ?
[19:26] <nathanel1itane> escott: oops
[19:26] <ThinkT510> quest: xkill
[19:26] <tello14> ah, it has been extremely faulty and nomatter who i talk to, and how many things we try, it fails. this started happinen a few days ago, i cand open and run .jar files
[19:26] <sobersabre> any block size specifics ? any other pitfalls ?
[19:26] <nathanel1itane> escott: even though it's appended to the global bashrc under /etc/bash.bashrc??
[19:26] <ThinkT510> sobersabre: not partition, dd to device
[19:26] <quest> thanks
[19:26] <ViaNocturna85> sobersabre: don't Fedora have Unetbootin?
[19:27] <escott> nathanel1itane, your script begins #!/bin/bash so it creates a new bash instance that gets your environment, but does NOT source .bashrc and does not have function declarations
[19:27] <davejones> hi again, am I bein read at all? :)
[19:27] <Panzershreck> Shit shit shit.. What do I do.. I just.. The Terminal asks: "[sudo] password for (username):  "but then it wont let me enter anything
[19:27] <escott> nathanel1itane, you shouldn't be doing what you are doing
[19:27] <Davee_> hello
[19:27] <Davee_> can u take a look http://askubuntu.com/questions/206975/touchpad-sensitivity-issue-even-after-upgrading-to-ubuntu-12-10
[19:27] <sobersabre> ViaNocturna85: cool... never heard of it.
[19:27] <Davee_> really anoying
[19:27] <kunji> Panzershreck: it is, you just can't see it, password protection man :P
[19:28] <ThinkT510> Panzershreck: it doesn't echo what you type, thats normal
[19:28] <ViaNocturna85> sobersabre: it's a bootable linux USB creator and available via yum
[19:28] <sobersabre> I remember running the commands manually. initiall syslinux, and then I remember somehow copying the contents of the .iso onto the usb.
[19:28] <IdleOne> Panzershreck: Please keep the language clean. When you type your password in the terminal you won't see it or any *'s or anything
[19:28] <sobersabre> cool indeed.
[19:28] <escott> nathanel1itane, because (a) nothing requires anyone to use bash. they could use csh or ksh or directly execute dpkg (b) bash won't source those files except for interactive shells
[19:28] <gordonjcp> !password | Panzershreck
[19:28] <Panzershreck> Sorry. Im just worried that I might have accidentally wiped some critical data on my computer
[19:29] <gordonjcp> Panzershreck: what was the command you typed?
[19:29] <Panzershreck> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:danielrichter2007/grub-customizer
[19:29] <kunji> Panzershreck: that shouldn't get rid of anything
[19:29] <gordonjcp> Panzershreck: that's fine
[19:29] <nathanel1itane> escott: thanks for the tip
[19:30] <escott> nathanel1itane, you should first check if you can configure dpkg to do what you need in /etc/dpkg
[19:30] <tello14> does anyone know a good place to learn how to use terminal?
[19:30] <Panzershreck> No it shouldnt get rid of
[19:30] <gordonjcp> Panzershreck: read the third sentence in that factoid I just posted
[19:30] <Panzershreck> I appreciate that but the underlying problem is I might have somehow rendered my windows7 unusable
[19:30] <nathanel1itane> escott: the point is i would like it to behave like rpm and install from a url as in 'dpkg -i URL'
[19:30] <Panzershreck> im a tad bit more conserned about that at the moment
[19:30] <gordonjcp> Panzershreck: that would be a separate issue
[19:31] <gordonjcp> Panzershreck: you should be able to CTRL-C out of a sudo prompt
[19:31] <ViaNocturna85> tello14: Try this link: http://beginlinux.com/twitter/1094-the-beginners-guide-to-the-ubuntu-terminal
[19:31] <tello14> thx
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[19:31] <ViaNocturna85> tello14: you're welcome
[19:32] <escott> nathanel1itane, sounds like something you only need in interactive usage. so I would just create a shell script that does what you need and put it in /usr/local/bin
[19:33] <nathanel1itane> escott ok
[19:33] <escott> nathanel1itane, you can even get fancy and put /usr/local/bin in your $PATH prior to /usr/bin dpkg and pass any residual arguments to the real /usr/bin/dpkg
[19:34] <escott> nathanel1itane, that will cover anyone who calls "dpkg" but not anyone who calls "/usr/bin/dpkg"
[19:35] <sikilpaake> how come apt-get --purge won't purge my mysql ?? the config files are still around somehow, since it won't ask me for root password on reinstall.. am i doing something wrong?
[19:35] <nathanel1itane> escott: here is the script as of right now (as a bashrc function) : http://sprunge.us/KPZb
[19:35] <nathanel1itane> it seems i have another issue with it
[19:35] <panssari> I think im in deep trouble.
[19:35] <quest98123923> well, i formatted and mounted the drive but still cannot find it in the installler
[19:35] <quest98123923> any other ideas?
[19:36] <MonkeyDust> sikilpaake  try this line, picked it up in this channel    dpkg -l | awk '/^rc/{print $2}' |  sudo xargs dpkg -P
[19:36] <ThinkT510> panssari: you should have made a backup
[19:36] <quest98123923> manage flags?
[19:36] <escott> nathanel1itane, dump the body of that function into /usr/local/bin/dpkg-url and give it a bash shebang at the top
[19:36] <panssari> I totally should have.
[19:36] <panssari> But I dont think thats what caused the issue necessarily
[19:36] <nathanel1itane> escott:so load it as a binary like you mentionned
[19:36] <panssari> I dont think I overwrote any of the files
[19:36] <jrib> sikilpaake: note that dpkg line will purge all your configuration files for uninstalled programs
[19:36] <panssari> By computer just cant seem to find them the right way
[19:37] <sikilpaake> jrib: wow, ok
[19:37] <sikilpaake> MonkeyDust: thanks!
[19:38] <jrib> sikilpaake: you can also just do « dpkg -S /path/to/file » and it will tell you the package responsible for it
[19:38] <escott> nathanel1itane, you may also have to change how you process the arguments
[19:38] <quest98123923> should i add some flags for my drive for it to be found in the installer?
[19:38] <escott> nathanel1itane, using shift and $1
[19:38] <ncmccx> i have an acer aspire 725 can not adjust brightness please help really dont want to have to go back to windows
[19:39] <sikilpaake> jrib: too bad i don't know which config file that is.. i only know that it's still there because of mysql's behaviour
[19:39] <jrib> sikilpaake: well the package is probably mysql-common
[19:40] <Deivid> Guys, please take a look http://askubuntu.com/questions/206975/touchpad-sensitivity-issue-even-after-upgrading-to-ubuntu-12-10
[19:40] <Deivid> if anyone can help me
[19:40]  * kuttenbrunzer Zzzz
[19:40] <Deivid> u have 5 beers
[19:40] <Deivid> :D
[19:40] <sikilpaake> jrib: ok
[19:40] <Deivid> is me the only one with those problems?
[19:40] <sikilpaake> jrib: i'll try uninstalling that and see what happens
[19:41] <quest98123923> any more ideas what i could do?
[19:42] <sikilpaake> jrib: BINGO!!
[19:43] <genera> Deivid, did you play around with the synclient mentioned on that website?
[19:43] <Deivid> yes yes
[19:43] <panssari> Is there.. any way.. for me to ..
[19:43] <quest98123923> why my installer cannot find my hard driver?
[19:43] <Deivid> I even modified the xorg
[19:44] <nathanel1itane> escott: i'm getting this: dpkg:error: need an action option
[19:44] <Deivid> the mouse doesnt jerks off to different places anymore
[19:44] <Deivid> but
[19:44] <nathanel1itane> escott: i made it into a script binary
[19:44] <Deivid> when I move it it's like moving it on ice :))
[19:45] <danialjose_> Hello, look in to this shell script
[19:45] <danialjose_> http://karve.in/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/The_Hindu_Delhi.sh
[19:45] <ThinkT510> panssari: ...finish your sentences?
[19:45] <ncmccx> well cant run ubuntu if my brightness is gonna stay on max. so i guess its back to windows i guess ill try again in a few years
[19:45] <escott> nathanel1itane, you have to change how the args are processed. argument 1 is $1 and the number of args is $# ($0 is the script that was executed). shift will eat the first argument and move $2 to $1
[19:45] <jrib> danialjose_: use a pastebin
[19:45] <panssari> No im actually slightly disgusted at myself. I did install ubuntu
[19:46] <panssari> and it seems to work properly
[19:46] <danialjose_> how can i develop a gui software for this use in ubuntu?
[19:46] <jrib> danialjose_: (and ask a question)
[19:46] <panssari> but I have somehow lost my windows.
[19:46] <jrib> danialjose_: what use?
[19:46] <ThinkT510> panssari: are you sure? is the partition still there?
[19:46] <panssari> I didnt format my HDD. Is there any way to view the files I have on my windows.
[19:47] <panssari> Yeah the problem is I might have.. fucked up the partitions.
[19:47] <danialjose_> that script is used to download Hindu newspaper (Indian)
[19:47] <panssari> And I dont know how to set them back.
[19:47] <panssari> Im a complete idiot
[19:47] <panssari> I would deserve to die basically at this point
[19:47] <quest98123923> escott i found the problem
[19:47] <escott> quest98123923, yeah?
[19:47] <ThinkT510> panssari: install gparted and launch it
[19:48] <quest98123923> escott i googled around, not sure what i did but i wrote in the terminal:
[19:48] <quest98123923> escott: fdisk -l
[19:48] <panssari> Can I find it in the software center?
[19:48] <quest98123923> escott and dmraid -E -r /dev/sda
[19:48] <escott> quest98123923, that doesnt do anything. its the same as parted -l
[19:48] <ThinkT510> panssari: indeed
[19:48] <escott> quest98123923, ahhhh dmraid
[19:48] <escott> quest98123923, disable that in your bios
[19:48] <quest98123923> escott hope how can i do that?
[19:48] <escott> quest98123923, thats fakeraid or software raid
[19:49] <escott> !raid
[19:49] <quest98123923> i get too confused about that, is it necessary to turn off_
[19:49] <quest98123923> _
[19:49] <panssari> I have..
[19:50] <ThinkT510> !screenshot | panssari
[19:50] <escott> quest98123923, you dont want fake raid. make sure it is turned off in your bios. it might be called "intel bios raid" but basically anything mentioning RAID should be turned off
[19:50] <skomorokh> for the kernel ppa... where are the headers for the 3.7rc2/rc1 kernels? They need the _all package... and complain about the lack
[19:50] <quest98123923> okay good to know
[19:50] <quest98123923> i install this now and then i deal with that
[19:50] <quest98123923> thanks a bunch
[19:50] <escott> quest98123923, if you actually want RAID use mdadm
[19:51] <quest98123923> dont wanna, got 1 hdd only
[19:51] <panssari> http://imagebin.org/233493
[19:51] <escott> quest98123923, then there really is no point to having any kind of raid at all
[19:51] <danialjose_> Is there any easy way to creat an ubuntu application from existing shell script code?
[19:51] <danialjose_> http://karve.in/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/The_Hindu_Delhi.sh
[19:51] <quest98123923> escott yeah thought so too
[19:51] <skomorokh> heh, the one under raring works.
[19:52] <Deivid> so genera far as I see my only way to fix it is to use a mouse
[19:52] <ThinkT510> panssari: strange layout, sda2 is your windows partition
[19:52] <panssari> I actually dont really know how it all works.
[19:53] <jrib> danialjose_: that is an application.  What do you mean?  A graphical one?
[19:53] <genera> that would surely do ..
[19:53] <danialjose_> yes
[19:53] <danialjose_> i want to creat a gui app
[19:54] <jrib> danialjose_: easiness depends on your abilities.  Do you know any programming languages?  Do you want to keep using bash as the language?
[19:54] <ThinkT510> panssari: open a file manager and navigate to /windows
[19:54] <danialjose_> i know some basics
[19:54] <ThinkT510> panssari: what do you see there
[19:54] <danialjose_> PHP
[19:55] <danialjose_> no i want to make a native python programme
[19:56] <jrib> danialjose_: then start by learning python.  #python can point you to good documentation.  You'll have to read the bash script and understand what it does, and then rewrite it in python
[19:58] <nathanel1itane> escott: is it linked to the error im getting though?
[19:58] <escott> nathanel1itane, i dont know
[19:59] <danialjose_> ok, thank you "jrib" for your good direction
[19:59] <nathanel1itane> escott: ok, thanks
[19:59] <in0cula> in chromium i have a contextual menu that if i select a word i can select to search for...how can i add a voce to contextual menu, where is stored the contectual menu of chromium(rx click)
[20:00] <jasonl> ubuntu is kewl
[20:00] <LtRipley> and totally leet woooo
[20:00] <jasonl> leet
[20:01] <jasonl> i need to get my linux +
[20:03] <guntbert> !ot | jasonl
[20:03] <newb> after buying ubuntu dvd i cannot get any icons or sidebar  to load after installing
[20:05] <Kman1> i nned help with Xchat
[20:06] <zvacet> I can not shut down comp just ubuntu logo and dots turning from white to red
[20:07] <escott> zvacet, hit the up arrow what does it say
[20:08] <zvacet> escott:  I don´t unerstand what do you mean
[20:08] <escott> zvacet, just hit the up arrow key, it should show some text
[20:08] <Kman1> can anyone help me with Xchat
[20:08] <zvacet> ok brb
[20:09] <Seveas> !anyone | Kman1
[20:10] <escott> Kman1, also please don't cross post in #ubuntu-beginners
[20:10] <Kman1> sorry
[20:11] <Kman1> all i need is. is there a way to exit out of Xchat with a command??
[20:12] <escott> Kman1, perhaps "/quit"
[20:12] <Kman1> that only quits a network
[20:12] <ThinkT510> Kman1: /part will leave a channel
[20:12] <Chaterz> easily alt+f4
[20:13] <Kman1> ... without the use of keyboard shortcuts
[20:13] <OerHeks> hit the red x
[20:13] <Chaterz> push the reset botton
[20:13] <Seveas> Kman1, /quit quits xchat
[20:13] <Kman1> WITH A COMMAND!!!
[20:13] <Kman1> /quit only quits the network i said it on
[20:13] <escott> Kman1, probably isnt one
[20:13] <Chaterz> command needs use the keyboard Kman1
[20:13] <Seveas> nope, it quits the client
[20:14] <Kman1> ok ill show you then
[20:14] <chemicalexe> So not sure if I'm in the right channel, but would it be possible to get some help/advice on my Ubuntu install?
[20:14] <LtRipley> maybe /exec killall -9 xchat?
[20:14] <T260R>  /join #base devplayground
[20:14] <escott> chemicalexe, this is the correct channel. xchat questions aside
[20:14] <LtRipley> would work in irssi
[20:14] <Kman2> im in the same client for both these names
[20:14] <xreal> Anyone with an idea, why frontend doesn't come up when using dpkg-reconfigure ?
[20:15] <xreal> I already tried --frontend=dialog
[20:15] <Seveas> xreal, dpkg-reconfigure -plow
[20:15] <Kman2> and there you have it... only quits the network
[20:15] <Seveas> Kman2, that's not normal xchat then.
[20:15] <chemicalexe> escott, I'm definitely having a bit of trouble. The only thing I can thing of that I haven't tried is burning an ISO.
[20:15] <guntbert> Kman2: maybe ask in #xchat
[20:15] <chemicalexe> Well, that and a network install, but the only having the one computer bit limits that.
[20:15] <xreal> Seveas: what should happen then? :)
[20:16] <Seveas> xreal, dpkg-reconfigure by default shows only questions with a certain priority (I forgot which) -plow should show all
[20:16] <escott> chemicalexe, ok. was there a question in all this?
[20:16] <xreal> Seveas: /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: please specify a package to reconfigure
[20:16] <panssari> Something happened
[20:16] <xreal> Seveas: it doesn't start dialog at all
[20:16] <jasonl> world of warcraft doenst run in ubuntu ?
[20:17] <johnjacobjingerh> hey all.. i'm trying to resize my / drive (dont care if i wipe it) but i have a small issue.. i have an extended partition for the swap that i cant figure out how to get rid of
[20:17] <Seveas> well yeah, you need to tell it which package to reconfigure :)
[20:17] <ThinkT510> panssari: would you like to be more cryptic?
[20:17] <escott> johnjacobjingerh, what do you mean you cant figure out
[20:17] <chemicalexe> escott, More just a "What else can I try" I suppose. Tried Wubi; no dice. Tried USB; no dice.
[20:17] <panssari> Well this one nice quest-person helped me troubleshoot a bit
[20:17] <johnjacobjingerh> well i right click to delete it escott and it's not selectable
[20:17] <johnjacobjingerh> it's greyed out
[20:18] <escott> johnjacobjingerh, its probably active
[20:18] <panssari> We managed to find that the windows files are still in existense
[20:18] <escott> johnjacobjingerh, sudo swapoff /dev/whateber
[20:18] <panssari> when I booted it didnt give me the desired prompt
[20:18] <johnjacobjingerh> escott i'm on live CD?
[20:18] <escott> chemicalexe, wubi is not a normal install
[20:18] <escott> johnjacobjingerh, the livecd will swapon any swap structures it sees on the disk
[20:18] <panssari> Oh quest from helsinki if you are ever so kind and patient, talk to me again.
[20:18] <johnjacobjingerh> oh
[20:18] <johnjacobjingerh> good to know
[20:18] <panssari> You have still done enough tho
[20:19] <chemicalexe> escott, I am aware of that. It was just what I tried first. But I moved to attempting a full proper install after the fact.
[20:19] <Kman1> wth
[20:20] <logictheo> I think it was first today I heard of "friendly". Also first time I visited Ubuntu's friendly domain.(friendly.ubuntu.com)
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> hey guys, is there a way to show the lines in one file that do not appear in another?
[20:20] <panssari> He made me run some dd = things in the terminal and change a GRUB_DEFAULT to =saved
[20:20] <wastrel> ActionParsnip: grep -vf
[20:20] <wastrel> or diff
[20:21] <logictheo> by the way, does anyone know if the new version of Skype in Ubuntu uses opus?
[20:21] <johnjacobjingerh> escott thanks that worked
[20:21] <escott> ActionParsnip, diff?
[20:21] <johnjacobjingerh> :-)
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> wastrel: diff seems to do line by line, which will happen as soon as one package differs
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> escott: ^
[20:21] <wastrel> you asked about lines
[20:21] <Seveas> wastrel, ActionParsnip don't you want -vfF in that case?
[20:21] <msp301> ActionParsnip: use diff
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> Seveas: ahhh thanks, let me try :)
[20:22] <wastrel> Seveas: probably
[20:22] <escott> ActionParsnip, you could sort the two files and then diff them if the position doesnt matter
[20:22] <zvacet> escott:  here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/1310661/
[20:22] <windz> net
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> escott: they are sorted :), they are package lists
[20:22] <Seveas> ActionParsnip, diff will do the trick then
[20:23] <escott> zvacet, do you have a floppy disk?
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> Seveas: so just:  diff file1 file2
[20:23] <Seveas> yeah
[20:23] <zvacet> escott:  no!
[20:23] <Seveas> diff -u file1 file2
[20:23] <logictheo> I'm happy today. Happy with my installation of Ubuntu LTS 12.04
[20:23] <xreal> damn ... it's a BUG! http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=501794
[20:23] <Seveas> (I prefer unified diff output)
[20:23] <phy1729> I'm trying to set up pam_mount but the server isn't even contacting the file server
[20:24] <escott> zvacet, then blacklist the floppy module in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[20:24] <logictheo> ...and I got some updates(about 400 something) installing. Feels awesome
[20:24] <zvacet> escott:  can you give me command?
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> Seveas: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1310672/   so the lines starting with '<' are the ones added?
[20:24] <simplew> isnt possible to use rdesktop and the the other end continues logged?
[20:25] <Seveas> ActionParsnip, that's why I like the unified diff format, you get the much clearer - and + :)
[20:25] <escott> zvacet, "gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf" and add "blacklist floppy" to the bottom of the file. then reboot again and see if it shuts down properly this time
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> Seveas: I'll try it :)
[20:25] <Seveas> simplew, that is indeed not possible
[20:25] <escott> zvacet, are you the second person to have a motherboard listing a floppy or the same person twice?
[20:26] <simplew> Seveas: the other solution would only be to use vnc?
[20:26] <Seveas> simplew, yeah
[20:26] <simplew> Seveas: but i have choosed vnc when running rdesktop and i cant conenct to the other end
[20:27] <Seveas> then there's no vnc server listening on the other end
[20:27] <simplew> Seveas: rdesktop continues blue and i see nothing new
[20:27] <Seveas> or a firewall is blocking you
[20:27] <simplew> Seveas: how can i check that?
[20:27] <logictheo> I'm very happy really mostly because I've been stuck on a system where installing Windows, Mac OS X and other systems are impossible...I was stuck on Debian there for 3 months. Now finally I got some hardware a Dell Vostro 1015 which also got a certified page at Ubuntu.
[20:27] <Seveas> dunno, depends on the other end :)
[20:28] <simplew> Seveas: both machines are here conected using the same router
[20:28] <logictheo> (also Ubuntu was impossible because Ubuntu supports i386 type systems only)
[20:28] <escott> logictheo, only?
[20:28] <Seveas> logictheo, ubuntu supports all kinds of systems, including ix86 and x86_64
[20:28] <Seveas> debian supports even more :)
[20:28] <logictheo> escott: no sorry, not only.
[20:28] <escott> logictheo, in fact a true i386 is about the only thing you wouldn't be able to boot
[20:29] <logictheo> escott: I was stuck on a mipsel system.
[20:29] <zvacet> escott:  I will try to blacklist and tell how it goes
[20:29] <Seveas> escott, 486, and anything newer but without CMOV won't boot either :)
[20:29] <logictheo> I bought it in 2009. A Lemote Yeeloong came with something based on Debian.
[20:29] <Seveas> logictheo, yeah, debian is your best bet :)
[20:29] <ivis> hello need some help..
[20:30] <logictheo> but today I got a present from my father, a Dell Vostro 1015 and I installed Ubuntu 12.04 what I'm running right now.
[20:30] <Seveas> nice present
[20:30] <Chaterz> Someon bored for Query? msg me!
[20:30] <Seveas> why not 12.10 though?
[20:30] <Seveas> !ot | Chaterz
[20:32] <logictheo> Seveas: Well, mainly because it was mentioned on the ubuntu certified page that I try "Ubuntu 12.04 64-bit" edition. 64-bit didnt install so I went with 32-bit.
[20:33] <logictheo> but I think I'll make another partition with the newest/latest version of Ubuntu too at some point.
[20:34] <karan>  Need help ! my system have a permission problem in starting up the apache at the boot time.
[20:34] <panssari> Is there anyone here, who would be willing to help me out? I fucked up my partitions when installing ubuntu and now I cant start windows anymore
[20:34] <Seveas> karan, please pastebin the full error
[20:35] <IdleOne> panssari: Please stop cursing
[20:35] <karan> karan@Zin:/etc/rc3.d$ ./S94webserver
[20:35] <karan> (13)Permission denied: AH00072: make_sock: could not bind to address 127.0.0.1:80
[20:35] <karan> no listening sockets available, shutting down
[20:35] <karan> AH00015: Unable to open logs
[20:36] <escott> panssari, (a) run sudo parted -l and paste that to paste.ubuntu.com (b) what is the goal to get windows booting directly or to get ubuntu booting and windows appearing in the grub menu
[20:36] <Seveas> karan, well duh. You're trying to run it as your user...
[20:36] <Seveas> those things are meant to be run as root
[20:36] <escott> karan, non-priv users cannot open ports below 1024
[20:36] <karan> yes !
[20:36] <logictheo> I'm off to restart after some updates...
[20:36] <Seveas> karan, besides, why are you creating your own scripts in init.d?
[20:37] <karan> do you mean ? i should use port greater than 1024
[20:37] <eben3amme> hey guys
[20:37] <eben3amme> how do i ad a path
[20:38] <eben3amme> for a program to execute it from terminal?
[20:38] <Seveas> karan, 1) don't create your own initscripts 2) use apache's initscripts 3) run them as root
[20:38] <escott> eben3amme, you can edit your $PATH in ~/.bashrc
[20:38] <eben3amme> i mean waht to type?
[20:38] <alias-atlas> hi all
[20:38] <eben3amme> other than location of file
[20:38] <Seveas> escott, export PATH="/extra/path/here:$PATH"
[20:38] <Seveas> that'll prepend it to the path
[20:38] <ActionParsnip> panssari: if you run:   sudo update-grub     do you see Windows?
[20:39] <eben3amme> ok thanks dude
[20:39] <karan> Seveas i m using apache's initscripts in etc/init.d and linked it with rc3.d/S94webserver
[20:39] <jefimenko> can you tell ubuntu to not automatically add routes for an interface in /etc/network/interfaces?
[20:39] <escott> karan, why?
[20:39] <escott> !upstart | karan
[20:40] <karan> ok ! thanks guys
[20:40] <eben3amme> dude like this?
[20:40] <tello14> hi, i have been having a TON of troubles with a few files that i have worked with for hours with others helping. is there any way to reset all ubuntus files and set it the way it was when i installed? thx
[20:40] <eben3amme> export PATH="//home/don/Desktop/jdk1.7.0_09/bin:$PATH"
[20:41] <eben3amme> ??
[20:41] <escott> eben3amme, except for the extra / at the beginning that is fine
[20:41] <eben3amme> oh ok
[20:41] <eben3amme> thnx
[20:41] <ActionParsnip> eben3amme: with a single slash at the start of home, yes
[20:41] <eben3amme> k
[20:41] <eben3amme> thnx again
[20:41] <panssari> Action, it says Generating grub.cfg and says Found Linux image, initrd image,linux image, initrd image, memtest86+ image
[20:41] <Seveas> karan, ok, then I'll reduce my advice to 1) remove the useless symlinks 2) run the initscript *as root*
[20:42] <eben3amme> cool it worked :)
[20:42] <ActionParsnip> panssari: is there an NTFS partition on the drive?
[20:42] <Seveas> eben3amme, also, you can install a jdk from the ubuntu repositories, no need to install manually
[20:42] <ActionParsnip> panssari: you can run:  sudo fdisk -l     to check
[20:42] <tello14> does anyone know how to make ubuntu be the way it was when i installed it?
[20:42] <Seveas> !info openjdk-7-jre
[20:42] <zvacet> escott:  doesn´t work see if I put entry correctly  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1310715/
[20:42] <ActionParsnip> tello14: to be 100% sure you could reinstall
[20:43] <escott> zvacet, does "lsmod | grep floppy" show anything? did you reboot?
[20:43] <msp301> panssari: If this is any help to you in the future, I use boot-repair to fix boot issues as it can do most things by itself :) ... http://sourceforge.net/p/boot-repair/home/Home/
[20:43] <zvacet> escott:  yoes I rebooted
[20:43] <tello14> so there is really no other way of doing it cept reinstall :/
[20:44] <karan> seveas ok but how to run them as root on boot time
[20:44] <escott> zvacet, maybe you need to run "sudo update-initramfs -u"
[20:44] <graingert> tello14: what happen?
[20:44] <escott> tello14, without knowing what you did no
[20:44] <Seveas> karan, if you installed apache with apt-get, it'll run automatically at boot time unless you disabled tht manually. In which case, undo whatever you did to disable it
[20:45] <zvacet> escott:  hete is output of lsmod command http://paste.ubuntu.com/1310724/
[20:45] <karan> well i have compiled and setup the apache by hand
[20:45] <escott> zvacet, floppy is still being loaded. try the update-initramfs command
[20:46] <karan> no apt-get
[20:46] <zvacet> escott:  ok
[20:46] <b2coutts> Hey, I'm trying to use 3 monitors in Ubuntu 12.04, using GNOME 3.4. I currently have it working with Twinview, but when I configure it to make each screen a separate X screens, only the leftmost screen works, the other 2 are white. Any idea how to get this working?
[20:46] <b2coutts> I'm using the latest nvidia proprietary drivers
[20:46] <Seveas> karan, why on earth would you do that?
[20:46] <xreal> DEBIAN_FRONTEND=dialog dpkg-reconfigure debconf
[20:46] <escott> b2coutts, separate screens? you mean multiple X servers?
[20:46] <xreal> even that doesn't work
[20:47] <XiaolinDraconis> im trying to enable wireless on my new laptop, its hp compaq nw8440, research tells me i need ipw3945 driver
[20:47] <karan> ^ ^
[20:47] <XiaolinDraconis> how do i install this ?
[20:47] <XiaolinDraconis> i have a tar file ready to put onto a usb stick and take to it
[20:47] <b2coutts> escott: I suppose so. I've been fortunate enough so far to not have to deal with X that much, but the driver software says the option is "separate X screens"
[20:48] <alias-atlas> всем привет
[20:48] <User123> After installing video drivers OS start to lag badly. HD Radeon 3200. Help please.
[20:48] <b2coutts> I need it because when I try to run a game, it renders at 3840x1080, but only takes up one screen, so it's squished
[20:48] <User123> Привет
[20:48] <Seveas> !ru | alias-atlas
[20:48] <escott> b2coutts, this is some nvidia nonsense isn't it... i dont know what this option you are talking about is, but im not surpised it doesnt work :)
[20:48] <b2coutts> and I can fix this by disabling two monitors, but I figured this should also work.
[20:49] <b2coutts> escott: Yeah, I'm thinking I might just need to save two separate configurations, and switch between them when I want to switch between gaming and doing stuff with 3 monitors
[20:49] <docvell> does anyone have any success using qmc2-sdlmess with distro 12.10?
[20:52] <ActionParsnip> docvell: not heard of distro 12.10, I know of release 12.10.....
[20:52] <zvacet> escott:  it is working! thank you  :)
[20:53] <User123> Any help for me? :)
[20:53] <logictheo> Has anyone done the friendly for Ubuntu? There's lots of preparations.
[20:54] <ActionParsnip> User123: remove the driver then use this: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-amd-catalyst-legacy-drivers-in-ubuntu-12-10-quantal.html
[20:54] <docvell> actionparsnip...sorry meant release
[20:54] <ActionParsnip> logictheo: I think I dd it a while back
[20:55] <User123> ActionParsnip, I think I removed them already, but how to check to be sure?
[20:55] <ActionParsnip> User123: dpkg -l | grep fgl
[20:55] <logictheo> ActionParsnip: Did you test with a laptop or desktop?
[20:56] <XiaolinDraconis> google told me i need ipw3945 module for to get wireless on my nw8440 laptop, attempting to use the command make says i already have something for it
[20:56] <XiaolinDraconis> why is wireless not working
[20:57] <logictheo> oh, this is gonna take looong, but it will feel good afterwards :D
[20:57] <crimsonmane> XiaolinDraconis: use '-f' without the quote marks for your make command
[20:57] <crimsonmane> it '--force's things to happen
[20:57] <XiaolinDraconis> crimsonmane, giving that a try now
[20:57] <crimsonmane> and if that's no help, possibly you need to blacklist some wifi driver or another
[20:57] <XiaolinDraconis> crimsonmane, i dont need to sudo the make make install do i?
[20:58] <crimsonmane> yes
[20:58] <XiaolinDraconis> sudo make
[20:58] <XiaolinDraconis> sudo make install
[20:58] <XiaolinDraconis> ?
[20:58] <crimsonmane> well, i don't honestly know, but when in doubt...
[20:58] <escott> XiaolinDraconis, don't sudo make. and dont make install. use checkinstall
[20:58] <zvacet> ActionParsnip:  legacy driversa from ppa should work properly? I´m corious because I have that model of gpu
[20:58] <picko> Hi.
[20:58] <XiaolinDraconis> now im confused
[20:58] <XiaolinDraconis> make -f
[20:59] <XiaolinDraconis> checkinstall
[20:59] <gnomefreak> XiaolinDraconis: use checkinstall
[20:59] <ActionParsnip> zvacet: not sure, I don't buy ATi/AMD GPUs
[20:59] <gnomefreak> !checkinstall
[20:59] <User123> ActionParsnip, found two of them, what next?
[20:59] <XiaolinDraconis> those commands in that order
[20:59] <phy1729> where can I get a clean copy of /etc/security/pam_mount.conf.xml ?
[20:59] <XiaolinDraconis> ?
[20:59] <escott> XiaolinDraconis, (A) start with ./configure --prefix /usr/local (B) make (C) checkinstall (D) sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[20:59] <gnomefreak> XiaolinDraconis: ^^^
[20:59] <zvacet> ActionParsnip:  so I have nothing to lose if I try to install it?
[20:59] <XiaolinDraconis> escott, thanks
[21:00] <ActionParsnip> User123: what package names?
[21:00] <escott> XiaolinDraconis, it might be --prefix=/usr/local so double check the syntax on that
[21:00] <ActionParsnip> zvacet: you can  always uninstall them again, why not :)
[21:00] <guybrush> Hi every one, im was wondering: i installed ubuntu on my pandaboard(ARM/OMAP4) and when i startup there isnt any form of graphic interface only terminal, how to fix this?(btw, sudo "is not a commando" or not installed and the same for apt-get)
[21:00] <ActionParsnip> guybrush: tried the boot option: nomodeset
[21:00] <User123> ActionParsnip, rc  fglrx ; rc  fglrx-updates
[21:00] <zvacet> ActionParsnip:  yes that is the fun of linux isn´t it  ;)
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> User123: yes remove both
[21:01] <gnomefreak> guybrush: your install sounds broken
[21:01] <guybrush> ActionParsnip: how to do that? and what dose it do?
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> !nomodeset | guybrush
[21:01] <User123> ActionParsnip, ehm... how?
[21:01] <XiaolinDraconis> adding "--prefix=/Where/You/Want/To/Install/It" so looks like ur right
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> guybrush: ubuntu has sudo installed by default
[21:02] <gnomefreak> ActionParsnip: his install is borked by the sounds of it. nomodeset may not help it
[21:02]  * gnomefreak smoke
[21:03] <guybrush> ActionParsnip: yes,but its inactivated or not installed on my ubuntu ... so i was really currius why it dosent work..
[21:04] <User123> How do I remove packages rc  fglrx ; rc  fglrx-updates?
[21:04] <crimsonmane> guybrush: if apt-get is not installed, then i'm assuming the entire installation is bunk. have you tried installing using the Alternate Installation ISO ?
[21:05] <XiaolinDraconis> ./configure error saying no such directory
[21:05] <escott> XiaolinDraconis, what exactly did you type?
[21:06] <XiaolinDraconis> ./configure --prefix=/usr/local
[21:06] <gain> hi all
[21:06] <guybrush> crimsonmane:  not an alternetive, suggesting i use and earlier version then 12.10, or earlier then 12.04?
[21:06] <gain> I have ubuntu 12.04 with mysql-server installed, and can't find the right option to enable 'load data infile' instruction
[21:06] <gain> any hint?
[21:07] <eben3amme> .
[21:07] <eben3amme> how do i change my nick?
[21:07] <escott> XiaolinDraconis, /usr/local should exist
[21:07] <eben3amme> sorry for going off topic
[21:07] <guybrush> crimsonmane: sorry, only tried the 12.10, and 12.04 so no other alternetive i have tried *
[21:07] <crimsonmane> guybrush: don't use 12.10 ever - it's too new. stay with LTS 12.04. and Alternative Installer is a special ISO designed for slower and/or low resource computers, or for situations where you need to set up the video card after installation.
[21:07] <gain> eben3amme: in irc? /nick newnick
[21:07] <wilee-nilee> eben3amme, What client are you using?
[21:07] <XiaolinDraconis> ill dbl check, and yeah that really should
[21:07] <eben3amme> freenode
[21:07] <eben3amme> irc
[21:08] <zvacet> guybrush: there is no alternate cd for 12.10
[21:08] <XiaolinDraconis> it does exist
[21:08] <escott> XiaolinDraconis, you can drop the prefix in the install if you use checkinstall correctly, but i would make sure to set the prefix
[21:08] <User123> Try #2, How do I remove packages rc  fglrx ; rc  fglrx-updates?
[21:09] <XiaolinDraconis> escott, ive never installed a package like this before, im used to .debs
[21:09] <escott> XiaolinDraconis, this is how you make debs :). the prefix is just saying put all the files in /usr/local to ensure you don't stomp on anything apt installed elsewhere in the system. checkinstall looks at the isntall script and creates a deb to do the same
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> guybrush: did you try the boot option?
[21:10] <escott> User123, apt-get remove fglrx
[21:10] <crimsonmane> User123: apt-get purge fglrx
[21:10] <crimsonmane> using 'remove' leaves behind settings
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> crimsonmane: or you can use:  --purge remove  :)
[21:11] <XiaolinDraconis> escott, so i should type ./configure and later use the checkinstall with some kinda of parameter?
[21:11] <zvacet> User123: sudo dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq fglrx
[21:11] <crimsonmane> what ever happened to the days where we had such limited resources that we cut everything to acronyms to save ram?
[21:11] <crimsonmane> escott: can you please just give XiaolinDraconis the command instead of hinting?
[21:12] <escott> crimsonmane, what am i hinting at?
[21:12] <guybrush> ActionParsnip: dont know how to do since i need to use some automated command to install ubuntu to my sd card,,, its some raw file that i transfer to the sdcard with some commands
[21:12] <User123> Ok, removed with purge. next it's said that you have to downgrade to xorg 1.12. How?
[21:13] <User123> i cant even xorg --version.
[21:13] <XiaolinDraconis> dont i have to use sudo to do anything in the /usr directory?
[21:13] <escott> XiaolinDraconis, the only thing that actually touchs /usr is the final dpkg -i command. before that nothing needs sudo and it is dangerous to use sudo when using make
[21:14] <zvacet> User123:  did you try to install following http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-amd-catalyst-legacy-drivers-in-ubuntu-12-10-quantal.html just want to know because I have same gpu model
[21:14] <crimsonmane> escott: i think you could speed things along if you told him "just type this: _______"
[21:14] <escott> crimsonmane, i think it would annoy me less if you scrolled up
[21:15] <XiaolinDraconis> ./configure says no directory even without the prefix
[21:15] <User123> zvacet, yes, this link was already given for me, doing what is said there "downgrade to 1.12"
[21:16] <escott> XiaolinDraconis, can you paste the entire session and output from ./configure (including the prompt where you type in ./configure)
[21:16] <gain> uhm... seems that apparmor deny the instruction to mysqld...
[21:16] <crimsonmane> escott: i think it would annoy everyone here less if you were more clear to the obviously confused Xiaolin
[21:16] <escott> !paste | XiaolinDraconis
[21:16] <User123> zvacet, the thing is that I don't know how to downgrade :)
[21:16] <zvacet> User123:  so you didn´t install fglrx following that link?
[21:16] <guntbert> crimsonmane: please stop
[21:16] <XiaolinDraconis> just one line, bash: no such file or directory
[21:17] <pekosse> hi all
[21:17] <User123> zvacet, nope, installed using additional drivers; and I thought that I uninstalled them with the same program.
[21:17] <escott> XiaolinDraconis, you are doing something weird like running this in the wrong directory or the like. or perhaps this doesnt have a configure script or maybe its autoconf. i dont know what you are actually compiling
[21:18] <riegersn> Help! I can't move any of my windows! Running Ubuntu 12.04 Unity
[21:18] <XiaolinDraconis> not in the wrong directory, i the tar extracted to the desktop and used cd to get into it
[21:18] <User123> zvacet, now according to manual I have to downgrade to older xorg.
[21:18] <XiaolinDraconis> using tab so no spelling errors
[21:18] <escott> XiaolinDraconis, if you type "./configure" and the immediate response is "bash: no such file or directory" that means that there is no configure script. so perhaps your program doesn't have a configure step? perhaps its autoconf and you need to run autoconf first?
[21:18] <xangua> riegersn: were you playing with compiz conf settings¿
[21:19] <zvacet> User123:  I tried with additional driver with no joy so I was hoping that link is good
[21:19] <riegersn> i was playing with the compiz config tool
[21:19] <riegersn> xangua, the CompizConfig Settigns Manger
[21:19] <escott> XiaolinDraconis, the whole configure; make; checkinstall is a set of *general* instructions... depending on what it is you are compiling it might be different
[21:19] <guntbert> XiaolinDraconis: is there a file README or INSTALL ?
[21:19] <User123> zvacet, yeah I hope too.
[21:20] <xangua> riegersn: make sure the 'move windows' plugin is enabled
[21:20] <XiaolinDraconis> escott, youre most likely right, but i have never done an install like this before, so i have no clue what i am doing, the INSTALL file says confusing things
[21:20] <User123> zvacet, do you know how to downgrade?
[21:20] <riegersn> xangua, haha. that was it. thanks!
[21:20] <escott> XiaolinDraconis, well what does it say? (and you can't just follow the instructions in INSTALL because they aren't ubuntu specific)
[21:21] <escott> XiaolinDraconis, but if you tell us what it does say we can tell you where to make adjustments
[21:21] <zvacet> User123: no ,but I was hoping it is not necessary if you use lagacy drivers
[21:22] <User123> zvacet, it's said that drivers are not supported by xorg 1.3 and you have to downgrade to 1.2
[21:22] <XiaolinDraconis> it simply says to make, make install
[21:22] <escott> XiaolinDraconis, then there is no configure step. you might want to look at the "Makefile" and see if you can manually force a prefix
[21:23] <escott> XiaolinDraconis, or you could let it dump its files all over the main filesystem and hope that there are no conflicts and just "make; checkinstall; dpkg -i"
[21:23] <zvacet> User123: then I will continue to use radeon driver
[21:23] <allquixotic_> Hi, how can I rig up a script that executes when networkmanager brings up a network interface?
[21:24] <zvacet> have to go see you next time good night  :)
[21:24] <XiaolinDraconis> allquixotic, try ActionAZ from the ubuntu store
[21:25] <XiaolinDraconis> escott, http://sourceforge.net/projects/ipw3945/files/ipw3945/1.2.0/ipw3945-1.2.0.tgz/download?use_mirror=iweb&r=http%3A%2F%2Fsourceforge.net%2Fprojects%2Fipw3945%2Ffiles%2Fipw3945%2F1.2.0%2Fipw3945-1.2.0.tgz%2Fdownload%3Fuse_mirror%3Diweb%26download%3D&use_mirror=iweb&utm_expid=6384-3&utm_referrer=http%3A%2F%2Fsourceforge.net%2Fprojects%2Fipw3945%2Ffiles%2Fipw3945%2F1.2.0%2Fipw3945-1.2.0.tgz%2Fdownload%3Fuse_mirror%3Diweb%26d
[21:25] <XiaolinDraconis> ownload%3D
[21:25] <XiaolinDraconis> oops
[21:25] <XiaolinDraconis> escott, http://ipw3945.sourceforge.net/
[21:26] <XiaolinDraconis> i have the 1.2.0 version
[21:26] <escott> XiaolinDraconis, this is a kernel module thats completely different
[21:26] <VlanX> i'm having the 32MB limit on ATFTPD with 12.04
[21:26] <VlanX> any clue?
[21:26] <XiaolinDraconis> escott, well that explains the troubles
[21:28] <XiaolinDraconis> escott, this is what happens when i have to google things without understanding
[21:28] <escott> XiaolinDraconis, are you sure this hasn't been packaged by anyone previously?
[21:28] <allquixotic> @XiaolinDraconis, that looks interesting, but it doesn't have an event for when a network interface connects
[21:28] <XiaolinDraconis> escott, i have no clue, all i know is my hp nw8440 laptop cant connect to wireless
[21:28] <escott> XiaolinDraconis, this driver hasn't been updated since 2007. i would say its pretty well dead
[21:29] <qmanjr5> How can I check which DE I'm using?
[21:29] <XiaolinDraconis> escott, its a 2k6 laptop
[21:29] <User123> ActionParsnip, in that link it's only said how to downgrade xorg but not how to install video drivers, isn't it?
[21:29] <escott> XiaolinDraconis, i would certainly not use that driver
[21:29] <XiaolinDraconis> allquixotic, it has image recognition...
[21:29] <dr_willis> look at the screen and compare it to screenshots of the other DE's ? ;) or see what you selected at the login screen qmanjr5 ?
[21:30] <XiaolinDraconis> escott, thats what googling has pointed me to
[21:30] <qmanjr5> dr_willis: Heh. Alright, thanks. :)
[21:30] <allquixotic> @XiaolinDraconis: ipw3945 is pretty obsolete. All of the wireless chipsets that it used to support have (AFAIK) been supported for a long time now by built-in drivers in the Linux kernel.
[21:30] <allquixotic> Trying to use old, likely broken software with a proprietary daemon is not going to be a solution. Which version of Ubuntu are you running?
[21:30] <XiaolinDraconis> 12.04
[21:31] <allquixotic> Try running 12.10. The kernel is continually bringing up support for new drivers.
[21:31] <allquixotic> Or you could run `lspci -nnvv` and give me the PCI ID of your wifi adapter and I can check for you.
[21:31] <alusion> http://pastebin.com/zyXYYqjM I'm trying to get xpenguins to work, how do I specify the display?
[21:31] <XiaolinDraconis> when running live the "Enable Wireless" was grayed out, now that ubuntu is installed it doesnt appear at all
[21:32] <Aleksander> Hello :) How can I enable SHMC in Ubuntu 12.10? There's no xorg.conf, and creating one according to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad#Enabling_SHMConfig_in_order_to_get_synclient_debug_output doesn't work
[21:32] <escott> XiaolinDraconis, i would doubt you can get this to compile. i think the entire kernel wireless stack has changed since this was last released.
[21:32] <XiaolinDraconis> allquixotic, i wont ever run a .10 distribution again, too many headaches
[21:32] <guybrush> ActionParsnip: fixed ubuntu, used 11.10 instead and will uppgrade later...
[21:32] <User123> How to install drivers on hd radeon 3200 for 12.10? Help!
[21:32] <allquixotic> @escott you are correct. The last time I used ipw3945 was in about 2008.
[21:33] <dr_willis> cant say ive had many issues at all with 12.10
[21:33] <SixtyFold> i just had a problem momentarily with 12.10 in VMware 9.0
[21:33] <SixtyFold> after properly shutting it down last night
[21:34] <SixtyFold> i went to start it up and it took about 10 minutes of what looked like it froze before it popped up, now it's fine
[21:34] <allquixotic> @XiaolinDraconis, your laptop supports WiFi chipsets from multiple hardware vendors. Without having you run `lspci -nnvv` and telling us the PCI ID of your wifi adapter, it is impossible for us to know which driver to tell you to install.
[21:34] <SixtyFold> idk
[21:34] <Seveas> SixtyFold, probably the filesystem check
[21:34] <guybrush> ubuntu installed on an sdcard, how to make it not write so much to the sdcard and how to make it write random places on the sdcard so it dosent write-kill the sdcard?
[21:34] <dr_willis> Aleksander:  perhaps -> http://askubuntu.com/questions/187152/how-do-i-enable-shmconfig
[21:35] <SixtyFold> Seveas, idk, it was the vmware screen showing, it was having trouble even starting the VM, so it might not even have anything to do with ubuntu
[21:35] <SixtyFold> or it might, idk
[21:35] <jason> a0w
[21:35] <SixtyFold> i opened lubuntu 12.10 at the same time and it didnt happen though, so, idk
[21:35] <jason> ubuntu is awesome
[21:35] <XiaolinDraconis> allquixotic, bcm4311
[21:35] <SixtyFold> jason - ubuntu is awesome
[21:35] <Aleksander> dr_willis, thank you
[21:35] <XiaolinDraconis> allquixotic, is that what u were asking for?
[21:35] <allquixotic> XiaolinDraconis: BCM4311 is a Broadcomm chipset. No wonder an unmaintained Intel wireless driver from ~2008 doesn't work.
[21:36] <allquixotic> But no, I was asking for the numbers, like [1234:5678]
[21:36] <allquixotic> Try running in your terminal: lspci -nnvv | grep -iA2 network
[21:36] <XiaolinDraconis> allquixotic, oh those one sec
[21:36] <XiaolinDraconis> allquixotic, 14e4:4311
[21:38] <APV1996> test
[21:38] <gimpy38> On ubuntu 12.04 it looks like something with dpkg is broken.  Any time I try to install a new package it wants to install tons of packages I already have.  How do I fix this?  http://pastie.org/5125048
[21:38] <Bilange> i've come up with an oddity i can't figure the right search keywords to use on google: it seems that after some time (days) of sustained TCP connection to a server (say, ssh or VPN), my connection drops but also refuses to ping, or connect to any services for  that same host, until I reboot the PC. anyone has any clues (or known similar issues to mine)? Running 12.04 here
[21:39] <Kraig> hi everyone. I know this will probably bother some people but I'm totally stuck getting my wireless card to be recognized. would someone care to help me out. I'll be ever grateful
[21:39] <allquixotic> @XiaolinDraconis, http://askubuntu.com/questions/139168/dell-1390-wireless-bcm4311-ubuntu-12-04-no-wireless-icon-in-unity
[21:39] <gimpy38> Bilange: What do logs say?  What does 'netstat -an' say when this happens?
[21:40] <allquixotic> XiaolinDraconis: Try: lsmod | grep wl
[21:40] <XiaolinDraconis> allquixotic, thats exactly what lspci says about my netwrok controller
[21:40] <Bilange> gimpy38: i just rebooted, since i needed SSH (which dropped) to get on my remote irssi client, sorry :X
[21:40] <alusion> how do I find out the name of a display?
[21:40] <Bilange> gimpy38: i'll definitely check that next time though
[21:40] <Kraig> I can't get my Centrino(R) Wireless-N 2200 to be picked up no matter what commands I run
[21:41] <Kraig> lsmod | grep wl does not return anything
[21:41] <allquixotic> XiaolinDraconis: I know... so... you need to try to blacklist the wl driver and use b43. You can blacklist it in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf -- just add "blacklist wl" to the top of the file
[21:41] <allquixotic> oh huh
[21:41] <Lunestic> I need help with installing Lubuntu
[21:41] <allquixotic> Kraig: I'm talking to XiaolinDraconis, sorry, not addressing your problem
[21:41] <XiaolinDraconis> allquixotic, i was reading the sudo install firmware
[21:41] <allquixotic> XiaolinDraconis: yeah, that one may work too
[21:42] <ogny> :D
[21:42] <allquixotic> XiaolinDraconis: try a few things but your goal should be to get the b43 kernel module loaded and working, and make sure "ssb" isn't loaded, nor "wl"
[21:43] <XiaolinDraconis> allquixotic, thanks for helping me find the road
[21:43] <allquixotic> XiaolinDraconis: it does no good to try and find drivers by looking up laptop model numbers, since the internals can be so varied that you get led *far* astray by trying to install drivers for a chipset you don't even have.
[21:44] <booh-> I try to install ubuntu server, at install, I can't see my sata hard-drive but if I open a second console, dmesg | grep /dev/sd show me all my drives...
[21:46] <escott> booh-, are the partitions not listed in /proc/partitions
[21:46] <tokestrees> Question: If I need to try ubuntu 12.10 off a USB stick, what fs should i format to before dumping the iso-content on it?
[21:46] <tokestrees> Or am I doingitwrong?
[21:47] <tokestrees> or more to the point, can WUBI put ubuntu on a usb stick for me?
[21:47] <allquixotic> tokestrees: you don't just dump the iso content on the USB stick. It needs to be bootable. A program such as Linux Live Creator or Unetbootin will take care of the boot sector for you.
[21:47] <tokestrees> unnetbootin! thats the one
[21:47] <allquixotic> tokestrees: Wubi can't, but Linux Live Creator or Unetbootin (both of which run on Windows) do.
[21:47] <tokestrees> I forgot the name
[21:47] <tokestrees> k unnetbootin, gotit. thanks :)
[21:47] <allquixotic> FYI, I had problems with unetbootin for Ubuntu 12.10.
[21:47] <tokestrees> oh
[21:48] <allquixotic> Linux Live Creator worked for me.
[21:48] <tokestrees> cool
[21:48] <tokestrees> thanks
[21:48] <allquixotic> http://www.linuxliveusb.com/
[21:48] <tokestrees> will that render my download pointless (does it use the iso or download its own?)
[21:48] <allquixotic> tokestrees: it uses the ISO.
[21:48] <tokestrees> dope! thanks
[21:48] <tokestrees> :D
[21:50] <srq> mm
[21:50] <booh-> My problem is exactly this one, but I didn't find the solution for now: http://askubuntu.com/questions/44550/problem-installing-on-computer-with-sata-harddrive
[21:51] <Aleksander> how can I make Unity remember my session ie restore windows on next login?
[21:54] <escott> booh-, did you follow the suggestions of disabling the fakeraid
[21:59] <adele> hi
[21:59] <Seveas> hello
[21:59] <adele> i got a problem with i915 and the hdmi, can anyone help me ?
[21:59] <Seveas> !anyone
[22:01] <broucmatic> have aquestion
[22:02] <broucmatic> exit
[22:02] <cime> hi! in (k)ubuntu, is there any good solution for remote desktop similar to RDP, that has windows client too?
[22:03] <broucmatic> has anybody tried to install and use btguard on ubuntu 12.04 ?
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> Isn't Natty EOL today?
[22:06] <adele> i have a laptop using i915 and i can't get the i915 driver to display anything on the hdmi port, xrand says the hdmi1 port is disconnected, can anyone help me to get it working ?
[22:07] <adele> it used to work with my previous version of ubuntu :/
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> adele: do you have a dual GPU system (intel and nvida or amd)?
[22:07] <go8765> hello. help me please with brasero .Itry to write dwd, but after few minutes get stopworking(  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1310919/
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> go8765: tried xfburn?
[22:08] <adele> ActionParsnip: nop, native intel
[22:08] <ActionParsnip> adele: sweet, makes life easier
[22:08] <adele> i hoped it does
[22:08] <go8765> ActionParsnip: it cant make dwd(
[22:08] <ActionParsnip> adele: is there a switch to make the output go through the HDMI output?
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> go8765: xfburn can burn DVDs just fine
[22:09] <go8765> +
[22:09] <go8765> +
[22:09] <adele> ActionParsnip: (:/) i hope not (...searching...)
[22:10] <ActionParsnip> adele: what model laptop is it?
[22:10] <go8765> ActionParsnip: I mean for dwd players
[22:10] <Dinomuffin> Oops
[22:11] <ActionParsnip> go8765: if you have video files to put on DVD, you can use devede and make a DVD ISO, you can then burn that :)
[22:11] <ActionParsnip> go8765: its DVD too, not DWD
[22:11] <alusion> Sometimes when I open an image my whack ubuntu opens it with INTERNET EXPLORER IN WINE..... how do I change it to default open pics/gifs with imageviewer?
[22:11] <adele> ActionParsnip: a dell inspiron n5050
[22:11] <alusion> Also ActionParsnip , do you scrobble man? =)
[22:11] <ActionParsnip> alusion: i don't even know what that is, so I'll say no :)
[22:12] <go8765> ActionParsnip: sorry( bad english
[22:12] <ActionParsnip> alusion: try right clicking a file and select open with, you can then set the app and tell the OS to remember the association
[22:12] <alusion> ActionParsnip, related to services such as last.fm, I figured I'd ask because I heard you have an ear for Trance ^_~
[22:13] <alusion> Also, how do I change my right click menu options to something I can customize etc
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> alusion: if the mood takes me, sure
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> adele: Fn+F1 not do it?
[22:24] <adele> ActionParsnip: nop :/
[22:26] <knob> Good evening everyone
[22:27] <knob> I was wondering: In the command line, I can run a script... and it will output a whole bunch of text.   How can I pipe that into a text file?
[22:27] <johnjacobjingerh> bleh gparted taking too long :-(
[22:27] <knob> Will this work?      ./script.sh | echo log.txt    ?
[22:27] <johnjacobjingerh> knob: we doing your HW for you :-P
[22:27] <knob> No... just a n00b in linux
[22:27] <knob> I know DOS would use   >
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> knob: > works in bash too
[22:27] <knob> do I could do    dir *.txt > log.txt     and it would dump everything into that file
[22:27] <knob> oh
[22:28] <knob> ok, on my way to try that
[22:28] <adele> DOS only later used > to redirect
[22:28] <ActionParsnip> knob: or you can pipe to tee if you want
[22:28] <knob> will report back asap
[22:28] <knob> What would "pipe to tee"  be?
[22:28] <ActionParsnip> knob: ./script | tee ~/Desktop/output.txt
[22:28] <knob> reading man tee now
[22:28] <knob> =)
[22:28] <Black_Daemon> ohh hi
[22:28] <ActionParsnip> knob: supplementary, you don't need the .sh extension :)
[22:28] <Black_Daemon> oh wait wrong chat sorry
[22:28] <johnjacobjingerh> could do something like command > file.txt
[22:28] <johnjacobjingerh> if you want it to append to the file i think u need >>
[22:29] <knob> I don't need the .sh?    that's news to me!
[22:29] <knob> ahhh
[22:29] <knob> I see
[22:29] <knob> nice
[22:29] <FloodBot1> knob: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> knob: file extensions dn't mean too much in inux
[22:29] <knob> sorry floodbotz
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> knob: makes things a bit neater
[22:29] <knob> cool... I see tee has the -a flag, which will append to a file
[22:30] <knob> going to try    ./script | tee log.txt
[22:30] <knob> and the    ~/output.txt    the ~/   part... that drops the file in the current working directory?
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> knob: no, ~/output.txt   means /home/$USER/output.txt
[22:31] <knob> ahhh... ok.  Good to know.
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> knob: ~ == $HOME == /home/$USER
[22:31] <knob> I know  /.  is root =)
[22:31] <knob> ok ok... pretty cool.  Thanks guys
[22:31] <knob> I'm waiting on the box ti finish running the script now (runs every 15 minutes), and then I'll run it manually
[22:31] <L3top> if that user is root, knob, be aware that the ~ dir will mean /root
[22:32] <knob> Good info.
[22:32] <knob> And the output.txt file, what if I want to "download" it to my current box.  How would I go about it?    I'm currently using PuTTY in a Windows7 machine
[22:34] <bklive> what is the deal with ati x1200 cards and Xorg crashes? the open ati driver will completely crash X and its ability to redraw updates (mouse move, etc) after a few short minutes
[22:34] <Faflatas1> Hello, I am using lubuntu 12.10 + i3 on an lenovo X1 Carbon, and it seems that the power button and the microphone mute button are not captured, they don't produce events in xev, do you people have any idea how to fix this/what to check in order to debug further ?
[22:34] <bklive> the only fix I have found shouldn't even be a fix: install fglrx (or fglrx-driver in debian). but fglrx specifically does NOT support x1200 cards, so why the change?
[22:35] <Aleksander> how can I apply https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/606238 ? Just 'patch [file]'?
[22:35] <L3top> knob: in putty scp user@ipaddress:/path/to/file ./   I would expect... I have not used putty in a long time, but putty has to have some sort of home directory...  someone else should probably elaborate.
[22:35] <Jisawesome2> If I were creating a webserver with ubuntu server, what packages should I download
[22:35] <knob> thanks!
[22:36] <L3top> bklive: can you start over? X1200 should not work at all under fglrx without crashing.
[22:37] <L3top> bklive: can you give me the output of lsb_release -sc    as well
[22:37] <bklive> L3top: if i use the open source xf86-video-ati (or whatever it is), Xorg crashes, not completely, but begins to draw buffer overflow looking lines across the screen. However, if I install fglrx the problem goes away. It doesn't use fglrx, but it solves the open source issue
[22:37] <Jisawesome2> If I skipped the network configuration in the installation, is there a way to do it now?
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> !patch | Aleksander
[22:38] <bklive> No LSB modules available. Debian Squeeze (6.0.6). Debian.
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> bklive: #debian for debian support
[22:39] <bklive> ActionParsnip: happens in ubuntu also. same exact issue and fix
[22:39] <ActionParsnip> bklive: doesn't matter, your issue is in debian, which isn't supported here
[22:40] <bklive> reading not your strong suit. this issue is in ubuntu. cannot draw X for more than a few minutes without overflow and failure to redraw corrupting the screen. only fix is to ALSO install fglrx
[22:41] <bklive> which is not supposed to support ATI X1200 R600 cards
[22:41] <SKR82> HOLA
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> bklive: then why does your OS report a Debian then....?
[22:41] <Jisawesome2> If I skipped the network configuration in the installation, is there a way to do it now?
[22:42] <ActionParsnip> bklive: you are using debian, the issue you are having is in Debian. The fact it affects Ubuntu too is irrelevant. This is Ubuntu support only. Not debian
[22:42] <Pricey> Jisawesome2: Yes... isn't the network-manager applet next to the clock still?
[22:42] <Jisawesome2> I am using ubuntu-server pricey
[22:42] <ActionParsnip> Jisawesome2: precise, you mean?
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> Jisawesome2: do you not get DHCP from your network devices?
[22:43] <Jisawesome2> I was referring to pricey, not continuing definition of the OS
[22:43] <bklive> bro. you're not getting it. the issue i am having is in ubuntu. it is also in debian. it is relevant because it is an issue in ubuntu. you are saying that a problem with ubuntu is irrelevant and i can only get answers to problems with ubuntu in this channel.
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> Jisawesome2: I see, gotcha :)
[22:43] <Guest32468> .
[22:44] <bklive> which is a contradiction
[22:44] <ActionParsnip> Jisawesome2: do you not get DHCP? that is the default
[22:44] <Pricey> Jisawesome2: I believe you'll want /etc/network/interfaces Anything specific you want to do?
[22:45] <Jisawesome2> ActionParsnip, all that is in my interfaces file is the loopback section
[22:45] <Jisawesome2> Specifically, I would like a static ip
[22:45] <Jisawesome2> Do I have to input the information myself?
[22:45] <ActionParsnip> Jisawesome2: you can use this guide: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/
[22:46] <ActionParsnip> Jisawesome2: if you want to use static IP, then yes
[22:46] <Jisawesome2> actionparsnip, thank yoyu
[22:46] <Jisawesome2> *you
[22:46] <SixtyFold> the grammar in that url is awesome
[22:46] <SixtyFold> haha
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> SixtyFold: it is, but the file detail is useful :)
[22:47] <SixtyFold> fair enough, just saying, hehe
[22:48] <johnjacobjingerh> can someone explain to me what Mythbuntu is
[22:48] <johnjacobjingerh> how is it different than installing mythtv onto ubuntu?
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> johnjacobjingerh: probably a differnet default app set
[22:49] <johnjacobjingerh> i see... i think
[22:49] <johnjacobjingerh> i'm setting up a mythtv server and been working on it for close to a week and keep running into issues
[22:49] <johnjacobjingerh> i think i got most of them sorted out but not positive
[22:50] <johnjacobjingerh> i have to reinstall ubuntu from scratch, and then i rememberd seeing something about mythbuntu and wasnt sure if it'd be beneficial to go to that
[22:54] <L3top> bklive lsb_release -sc
[22:54] <fluitfries> umm, should it take forever to open a 7.1 gig avi file with mplayer?
[22:54] <fluitfries> on my mac it did not take long.
[22:54] <Guest32468> 2
[22:55] <kate_r> hi
[22:55] <ActionParsnip> fluitfries: what players have you tried?
[22:55] <kate_r> i'm trying to install krb5-multidev but i keep getting an error saying "Depends: libkrb5-3 (= 1.10+dfsg~beta1-2) but 1.10+dfsg~beta1-2ubuntu0.1 is to be installed"
[22:55] <ActionParsnip> fluitfries: different OSes act differently
[22:55] <kate_r> does anyone know how to resolve it?
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> kate_r: can you pastebin the output of:  apt-cache policy krb5-multidev libkrb5-3; lsb_release -a        please
[22:56] <fluitfries> ActionParsnip, hang on, it's not even supposed to be 7 gig...  suppoed to be 1 gig, but when i copied it it was 7...
[22:56] <fluitfries> wtf
[22:57] <kate_r> ActionParsnip, sure
[22:57] <L3top> fluitfries: how did you try to copy what to what, with what, from what.
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> kate_r: something like http://pastie.org will do :)
[22:57] <kate_r> ActionParsnip, http://pastebin.com/xdjLJLAW
[22:57] <fluitfries> L3top, just dragged it off my hfs+ usb drive...
[22:57] <fluitfries> L3top, gonna try rsync
[22:58] <sammie> Hi all.  I am fairly new to Ubuntu.  Just upgraded to 12.4  Have no sound no matter what I try.  Been at this for days trying to figure out what's wrong. Help?
[22:58] <ActionParsnip> kate_r: then you have added some backtrack repos, which are causing the issue
[22:58] <ActionParsnip> kate_r: are you using backtrack?
[22:58] <kate_r> ActionParsnip, oh. i'll remove them
[22:58] <josechu> ff
[22:58] <kunji> fluitfries: hmm, it probably shouldn't, is your OS 32 bit?  Also, do you have similar behavior trying it with another player, like VLC?
[22:58] <kate_r> ActionParsnip, no, i added them to try to fix the problem
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> kate_r: you will need to uninstall those packages, then reinstall them. If you start adding extra sources for packages and get issues, don't be surprised
[22:59] <fluitfries> kunji, ActionParsnip, L3top, when i get properties on the file it says size of files 888 meg, size on disk 7 gig ???
[22:59] <kate_r> ActionParsnip, right. which packages are you referring to? libkrb5-3?
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> fluitfries: i suggest you fsck the partition in liveCD
[23:00] <L3top> fluitfries: I take it this file is an archive of some sort. Tell me the file type.
[23:00] <kate_r> ActionParsnip, i've removed them and updated the repo. it doesn't seem to ask for a change.
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> kate_r: yes, reinstall the packages (you should also run:   sudo apt-get clean)
[23:01] <fluitfries> L3top, lol, it's an AVI
[23:01] <kate_r> ActionParsnip, here's the updated output: http://pastebin.com/PuwLjBgk
[23:01] <fluitfries> ActionParsnip, it's a usb, so i can fsck it without live boot i think
[23:01] <L3top> fluitfries: file /path/to/file
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> kate_r: wget https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/fixpackage; chmod +x ./fixpackage; sudo ./fixpackage        may help
[23:02] <kate_r> ActionParsnip, hmm in synaptic, there's no reinstallation option only removal.
[23:02] <kate_r> ActionParsnip, but if i remove it, a lot of packages will be removed too.
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> fluitfries: then just unmount the partition and check it
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> kate_r: run that command, then simply reinstall the package
[23:03] <fluitfries> ActionParsnip, disk util says it is not clean
[23:03] <fluitfries> ActionParsnip, remember it is hfs+
[23:03] <kunji> ActionParsnip: you would really fsck for a large file moved onto the disk from an hfs+ drive?  I would expect the file to have problems, but not the filesystem.
[23:03] <kate_r> ActionParsnip, ok doing that now
[23:03] <fluitfries> yea i think i'm gonna trash the partition entirely, this is bogus
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> fluitfries: not sure there then, sorry
[23:06] <nrdb> I have some iptables rules setup that is being done automatically ... but I can't find what or where they are being done... ufw is inactive ... can anyone help?
[23:07] <cannotinstall> hi guys, im trying to install12.04 on my desktop but im getting the error: "udevd[210] timeout: killing /sbin/modprobe -bv pci:" when trying to boot. I have already checked the MD5Sum, and tried a livecd instead of a usb, but get the same result. Any ideas?
[23:10] <johnjacobjingerh> doesnt work on live CD either cannotinstall ?
[23:10] <johnjacobjingerh> did you download for the right architecture
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> cannotinstall: have you tested your RAM?
[23:10] <johnjacobjingerh> x86, x64 etc
[23:11] <cannotinstall> no, same error. Checked disk for defects and ram tests. Also ran live media checks. Everything came back fine.
[23:11] <cannotinstall> yeah 64bit pc, got the right architecture
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> cannotinstall: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+question/189659
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> cannotinstall: using a usb3 port?
[23:13] <picko> Anyone know where to find help with custom key mappings in ubuntu?
[23:13] <cannotinstall> ActionParsnip: no, machine was born before usb3
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> !shortcut
[23:13] <picko> Not a shortcut
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> cannotinstall: check the link I gave
[23:13] <picko> Mapping a terminal like command ...
[23:14] <picko> I have a little bash function for it...
[23:14] <picko> goes command #
[23:14] <kate_r> ActionParsnip, hi i've run that script, but no difference.
[23:15] <kate_r> ActionParsnip, here's the output: http://pastebin.com/fi8rr8FK
[23:16] <cannotinstall> ActionParsnip: the link suggests installing an older version and updating as a workaround. Can i go from 10.04 to 12.04, or do I need to run every update in between as well?
[23:17] <ActionParsnip> cannotinstall: you can go LTS to LTS, yes
[23:17] <cannotinstall> ActionParsnip: ok, ill give that a go. thank you
[23:18] <judahlion> cannotinstall: it's always better to do a clean install..
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> kate_r: sudo apt-get --reinstall install libkrb5-3
[23:18] <kunji> cannotinstall: umm, do you have an sdcard reader?
[23:18] <kate_r> ActionParsnip, right. but according to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/amd64/libkrb53 the version on PPA is 1.10+dfsg~beta1-2ubuntu0.3
[23:19] <kate_r> ActionParsnip, but I think I need 1.10+dfsg~beta1-2 instead though
[23:19] <kunji> nrdb: I have a similar problem, but no solution in sight -_-
[23:19] <Krenair> Why would gnome-system-monitor be using over 400MB RAM?
[23:19] <kate_r> ActionParsnip, would a reinstallation really help?
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> kate_r: it should set it back to the older version
[23:20] <bicio> .xchat2/budus.so
[23:20] <kate_r> ActionParsnip, right. older version, as in 1.10+dfsg~beta1-2?
 booh-, did you follow the suggestions of disabling the fakeraid <--- Yes.  Work on one of two drives.
[23:20] <kate_r> ActionParsnip, i get a message saying "Reinstallation of libkrb5-3 is not possible, it cannot be downloaded."
[23:21] <ActionParsnip> kate_r: whatever is in the ubuntu official repos
[23:21] <kate_r> ActionParsnip, is 1.10+dfsg~beta1-2ubuntu0.3 not the one in the official repo?
[23:21] <kate_r> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/amd64/libkrb53
[23:22] <Jordan_U> booh-: Could you pastebin the output of "sudo blkid"?
[23:22] <bicio> load .xchat2/budus.so
[23:23] <ActionParsnip> kate_r: that works too
[23:24] <kate_r> ActionParsnip, or should krb5-multidev depend on 1.10+dfsg~beta1-2ubuntu0.x rather than 1.10+dfsg~beta1-2?
[23:24] <kate_r> ActionParsnip, well i'm currently having a mismatch since it depends on beta1-2 but i got beta1-2ubuntu0.x installed
[23:24] <kate_r> and beta1-2ubuntu0.x is what the official repos seem to have
[23:26] <PatrickDickey> kate_r, from what I see it depends on libkrb5-3 = 1.10+dfsg-beta1-2ubuntu0.3
[23:27] <kate_r> PatrickDickey, hmm mine seems to depend on beta1-2 instead though
[23:27] <kate_r> PatrickDickey, let me paste it
[23:27] <kate_r> http://pastebin.com/7naWzGRs
[23:28] <kate_r> PatrickDickey, do you know how to make it depend on beta1-2ubuntu0.x?
[23:29] <PatrickDickey> kate_r: It does, but the version that you're set to install is an older version. It depends on ubuntu0.3 and you're installing ubuntu0.1 (for the libkrb5-3 package)
[23:29] <kate_r> PatrickDickey, i've updated my repo though...
[23:29] <kate_r> it doesn't seem to find ubuntu0.3
[23:30] <kate_r> PatrickDickey, in synaptic, it says ubuntu0.1 is the latest version for libkrb5-3
[23:31] <PatrickDickey> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/amd64/libkrb53/1.10+dfsg~beta1-2ubuntu0.3 kate_r What you can try to do is download the file (on the right side) called libkrb53_1.10+dfsg~beta1-2ubuntu0.3_all.deb, then use sudo dpkg -i to install that first.
[23:33] <kate_r> PatrickDickey, i get this error: http://pastebin.com/1CEbFZhL
[23:34] <judahlion> when will they release a new openbox version?
[23:34] <kate_r> "libkrb5-3:i386 conflicts with libkrb53"
[23:34] <XiaolinDraconis> escott, thanks for that link, the b43 firmware worked perfectly, now my wifi button works
[23:35] <quidnunc> Where can I find apt-add-repository?
[23:35] <XiaolinDraconis> well my girlfriends wifi button works and she is happily facebooking away without bugging to use my desktop
[23:36] <PatrickDickey> kate_r: type dpkg -l libkrb53 and tell me what it says.
[23:37] <trism> quidnunc: software-properties-common in 12.10, python-software-properties in earlier versions
[23:37] <xenome> if I wanted to restart network manager, is there any way to truly do that w/o rebooting?  Once I loose the network manager widget in my menubar, I never seem capable of getting it back
[23:37] <kate_r> PatrickDickey, well nothing for libkrb53 but i get something for libkrb5-3
[23:38] <PatrickDickey> what was that kate_r?
[23:38] <kate_r> for 5-3, i get http://pastebin.com/0JtQg1s5
[23:38] <kate_r> but nothing for libkrb53 (without the dash)
[23:41] <PatrickDickey> kate_r: here's a link that might help you out.  It's about your specific situation. http://askubuntu.com/questions/173895/when-trying-to-upgrade-kerberos-development-libraries-why-do-i-get-an-unmet-de the first answer listed seems to be the best one.
[23:42] <thaurwylth> Ubuntu 12.04 used to have this pretty serious problem with ATI video cards, this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/725580 Also happens with others than 9200. TO BE CONTIUNUED --
[23:42] <XiaolinDraconis> rm wont follow symlinks will it?
[23:42] <PatrickDickey> kate_r: on that link, the next answer down (from the one with a +100) has some good steps to follow. run it with --simulate at the end, before you run the actual remove command.
[23:42] <kate_r> PatrickDickey, thanks. reading that right now.
[23:43] <kate_r> apt-cache show libkrb5-dev | grep Depends gives me Depends: krb5-multidev (= 1.10+dfsg~beta1-2)
[23:43] <XiaolinDraconis> i backed up home by copying and pasting to a new partition, and for some reason 5gigs took up 30gigs, i assume the copy paste allowed it to paste the contents of symlinks
[23:43] <thaurwylth> It's also listed on the 12.04 Release Notes subsection Known Issues. Similar bug is not listed in the 12.10 Release Notes. Does this mean that the problem does not exist any more?
[23:44] <kate_r> PatrickDickey, well i haven't even got krb5-multidev installed
[23:44] <thaurwylth> Oh, it seems to have 'Fix Released' in Launchpad.
[23:44] <PatrickDickey> kate_r: You'll probably have to do apt-get remove libkrb53 (or libkrb5-3) and then try to install it again.
[23:44] <quidnunc> trism: thanks
[23:45] <quidnunc> trism: Is there a way to find that out myself?
[23:45] <kate_r> PatrickDickey, but that would remove many packages, e.g., a lot of gnome ones
[23:45] <PatrickDickey> kate_r: that's why you want to run it with --simulate first. Just to see what it removes for sure.
[23:46] <kate_r> PatrickDickey, right. so i guess i should simulate removing libkrb rather than krb5-multidev
[23:46] <kunji> Why is a link to Amazon now included in the application menu?  It is already searchable from the lenses, doesn't a link from applications seem to be in poor taste?  Of course I understand if money traded hands, Canonical needs to make money somehow right.
[23:46] <thaurwylth> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/725580/comments/43   <== However...
[23:46] <trism> quidnunc: apt-file will let you search packages that aren't installed
[23:47] <quidnunc> trism: thanks
[23:47] <trism> quidnunc: dpkg -S name; for installed ones
[23:47] <kate_r> PatrickDickey, hmm from --simulate i get this: http://pastebin.com/z7KNrNCX
[23:47] <PatrickDickey> kate_r: right.
[23:47] <PatrickDickey> kate_r: have you tried sudo dpkg --configure -a
[23:47] <Jordan_U> booh-: Did you see my last message?
[23:48] <kate_r> PatrickDickey, yep, get no output
[23:48] <PatrickDickey> kate_r: and sudo apt-get -f install
[23:49]  * sammie is away: I'm busy
[23:49] <kate_r> PatrickDickey, get 0s for everything
[23:49]  * sammie is back (gone 00:00:17)
[23:50] <thaurwylth> Hrm, is it really worthwile to use /away for 17 seconds...?
[23:51] <L3top> kate_r: ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[23:51]  * PatrickDickey thinks sammie was playing with something
[23:52] <kate_r> L3top, here's the output: http://pastebin.com/9fqyp0bj
[23:52] <reCAPTCHA_> Hey all.. I just updated to 12.10 from 12.04 and now I cannot detect my second display...
[23:53] <reCAPTCHA_> I have an Nvidia graphics card... HDMI.
[23:53] <thaurwylth> In any case, if no one here knows the precise situation of that bug 725580, I might as well post a question in Askubuntu. Since this should be super important for everyone having those ATI cards.
[23:54] <alsu> is it possible to cherry-pick newer packages from 12.10 if I'm running 12.04LTS?
[23:55] <thaurwylth> I guess that's like juggling chainsaws while unicycling. Definitely allowed, if you really know what you're doing.
[23:56] <kate_r> PatrickDickey, L3top hmm so have you got any other ideas?
[23:57] <L3top> kate_r: it is almost guaranteed that your problem stems from those PPAs.
[23:57] <kate_r> L3top, so should i remove them?
[23:58] <L3top> !ppa-purge | kate_r
[23:59] <kate_r> L3top, can i not just uncheck them in synaptic and refresh?
[23:59] <thaurwylth> Hey, by the way, newbie question about the syntax in Bugzilla. If we have Tracking Flags: tracking-thunderbird17: -   status-thunderbird17: fixed, does that indeed mean the obvious first interpretation - that it has now been fixed?
[23:59] <thaurwylth> (Not really Ubuntu question, sorry, but definitely related.)