[00:30] <nyRednek> or just use 12.04
[00:31] <nyRednek> :P
[01:26] <kgb_operative> hey guys
[01:26] <kgb_operative> I got a question about xfce
[01:27] <kgb_operative> I found how to extend my desktop on two different monitors, but is there a way to have two desktops running (one on each monitor)?
[01:34] <well_laid_lawn> kgb_operative: see if this helps - http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?pid=23162#p23162
[01:37] <kgb_operative> thanks, I think this is what im looking for
[02:53] <xubuntu680> Is anyone having trouble running the software updater?
[02:57] <matematikaadit> Hello, how do I know that my xubuntu has ipv6 support?
[02:58] <matematikaadit> I've try:
[02:58] <matematikaadit> sudo modprobe ipv6
[02:58] <matematikaadit> but
[02:58] <sdollins> IPV6 should work by default.
[02:58] <matematikaadit> lsmod | grep ipv6
[02:58] <sdollins> you set it up in NetworkManager
[02:58] <matematikaadit> gives me nothing
[03:00] <Unit193> xubuntu680: What's the issue?
[03:00] <Unit193> matematikaadit: In the terminal, ip addr
[03:01] <matematikaadit> ip addr: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1308678/
[03:03] <matematikaadit> "ping www.ipv6.org" works, but "ping6 www.ipv6.org" doesn't. It says "unknown host"
[03:04] <matematikaadit> And in terminal, whenever some program trying to connect to some ipv6 address, it fail.
[03:04] <Unit193> http://test-ipv6.com/  Does your DNS and ISP  have it?
[03:08] <matematikaadit> it says "Your DNS server (possibly run by your ISP) appears to have no access to the IPv6 Internet, or is not configured to use it."
[03:09] <Unit193> As did it on mine, but if I   dig AAAA ipv6.google.com  it'll pull their IPv6 address.
[03:09] <Unit193> (I do not have IPv6)
[03:10] <matematikaadit> OK, i've try: dig AAAA ipv6.google.com
[03:11] <matematikaadit> which part that say it's ipv4 address?
[03:11] <Unit193> ipv6.l.google.com.  300  IN  AAAA  2607:f8b0:400c:c02::93
[03:14] <matematikaadit> i don't get it?
[03:14] <matematikaadit> does 'ping ipv6.l.google.com' equal to 'ping6 ipv6.google.com'?
[03:15] <matematikaadit> but 'ping ipv6.l.google.com' doesn't work.
[03:15] <sdollins> no it doesn't.
[03:15] <sdollins> ping = ipv4, ping6 = ipv6
[03:16] <sdollins> Do you even have IPv6 connectivity?
[03:16] <sdollins> Not many residential ISPs provide it.
[03:17] <matematikaadit> I think I haven't
[03:53] <ryanbrunswick> hey. any folks running xubuntu on a thinkpad t61?
[09:36] <Industrial> By default, when I start up & log in, all my removable drives and NTFS partitions are not mounted. Can I get these to mount? My music player library depends on it. I often have to redo the whole library import because I forget to mount first.
[09:38] <Unit193> You should be able to set that up in gigolo, and for sure in fstab.
[09:53] <Industrial> Oh. That's nice.
[09:57] <Industrial> Unit193: fstab doesn't seem to hold entries for these partitions, gigolo can't change anything about them and I also checked the Removable Drives and Media settings.
[09:58] <Industrial> guess I should just add fstab entries >_>
[10:01] <Unit193> I did that with my cifs share, worked better for me than gigolo by a good shot.
[10:38] <DemonWitch> Hey i got a laptop that uses 2 gpus, one integrated shared memory (intel) and one exclusive memory main gpu (nvidia). As a result the livecd shows blackscreen. What can i do?
[11:17] <recon_lap> hey, any way to get .php files to open by default with gedit?
[11:20] <recon_lap> never min, think i got it working, have to see if it sticks
[11:47] <xubuntu795> hi everypone
[11:48] <recon_lap> !hi | xubuntu795
[13:17] <nantou> how do I change permissions to a usb stick?
[13:18] <GridCube> it should be writable as you plug it in
[13:20] <nantou> GridCube, remember my not fresh upgrade to 12.10? but I managed to change permissions with sudo nautilus
[13:21] <GridCube> permissions to what?
[13:21] <nantou> and btw, what tips would you give to a newbie, if you sistematically upgrade with fresh installs?
[13:21] <nantou> to write and copy and execute
[13:22] <GridCube> i have 4 separated partitions on my drives, one for / one for /home other for /shared and the swap one, everytime i install a new version y simply change the files from / and check that the config files on /home wont mess things up, then i just upgrade and my files are safe, /share can be an ntfs partition shared with a windows on other disk
[13:26] <nantou> would it be of any help, in my non fresh installation, to add the 12.10 iso copy from an usb stick to my sources?
[13:28] <GridCube> not really
[13:31] <Andrea2804> ciao a tutti, ho pangolin e quando apro xfburn mi dice che non è disponibile alcuna unita' di masterizzazione (ma ho il masterizzatore esterno che con oneiric andava benissimo)
[13:31] <recon_lap> I then to stay on LTS versions, and do a reinstall every 2 years :) , got my home folder in it's own partition as well.
[13:32] <nantou> buon giorno a tu Andrea2804 , non parlamos italiano
[13:32] <Andrea2804> sorry
[13:32] <nantou> id really appreciate a correction to my broken italian
[13:33] <recon_lap> Andrea2804: #ubuntu-it
[13:33] <GridCube> !it | Andrea2804
[13:33] <Andrea2804> so in English: I have pangolin and when I start Xfburn it says that any burning device is available (I have a usb device that worked well with oneiric)
[13:35] <GridCube> Andrea2804: does other burners says the same? what lsusb says? its detected?
[13:36] <Andrea2804> I have no other burners, I can see it with lsusb
[13:36] <Andrea2804> Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0409:0056 NEC Corp.
[13:37] <GridCube> does it have a blank cd on it?
[13:37] <recon_lap> Andrea2804: have you tried Brasero?
[13:38] <Andrea2804> Gridcube: if I put an empty dvd the problem with Xfburn doesn't change
[13:38] <GridCube> also do as recon_lap recommends, and try other burners, :) if this problem persist its not an issue of xfburn P:
[13:38] <Andrea2804> recon_lap: Brasero didn't help :(
[13:38] <GridCube> does it read non-blank dvds?
[13:39] <Andrea2804> it reads, but itàs not recognized as a writer
[13:39] <Andrea2804> it's
[13:39] <GridCube> yes i see
[13:39] <Andrea2804> I read some forums and I tried to modify the fstab file
[13:40] <Andrea2804> putting this line: /dev/sg2     /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0       0
[13:42] <GridCube> i would try adding rw to the user,noauto,exec,utf8,rw  << this means its read and write
[13:42] <GridCube> i would even just try adding auto instead of all that
[13:43] <GridCube> but you are using noauto so
[13:44] <Andrea2804> so you suggest auto and rw? :) itàs worth trying
[13:46] <GridCube> auto,rw are my usual settings when i dont understand what im doing
[13:48] <Andrea2804> :D
[15:05] <hhhzzzarn> anyone using dual monitors?
[15:06] <hhhzzzarn> more than one display on xubuntu?
[15:06] <holstein> hhhzzzarn: i do/have... i have used arandr for spanning.. the nvidia proprietary tool gives me an easy way to deal with it too, though thats just for nvidia (obviously)
[15:07] <hhhzzzarn> holstein, i have a netbook (small laptop), i connect through vga to a monitor
[15:07] <recon_lap> got two as well, not great setup though, have not spent the time to iron out the issues :)
[15:09] <holstein> hhhzzzarn: i have had good luck with arandr on my laptops
[15:09] <hhhzzzarn> when I have both display is use, the netbook display only shows a portion of the screen, while the monitor have two desktop backgroud images, a smaller (represting the netboot) and a full one.
[15:09] <hhhzzzarn> so I disable my netbook display.
[15:10] <hhhzzzarn> the problem happens when I try to re enable my netbook display, it will not turn back on. Also if I disconnect the vga cable, it will not automatically show on the netbook.
[15:10] <hhhzzzarn> I have to restart my computer to get it back on the netbook
[15:10] <hhhzzzarn> i will give it a try.
[15:11] <hhhzzzarn> although by looking at the gui screenshot, i thought it was very simple, same options as the default display manager for xubuntu
[15:11] <recon_lap> hhhzzzarn: enable both monitors and run this xrandr --output VGA1 --left-of LVDS1
[15:12] <recon_lap> hhhzzzarn: should let you use both monitors at once
[15:13] <hhhzzzarn> also, another general questions with ubuntu, xubuntu, I can not restart my computer. I press restart, it starts to logout, (possibly shutdown) and the gui shutsoff and while the computer power is still on, all I see is black.
[15:13] <hhhzzzarn> then I have to hold down the power button until it shuts off and reboot manualy.
[15:14] <GridCube> wich version are you using?
[15:14] <hhhzzzarn> 12.10
[15:14] <hhhzzzarn> it was happeneing with 12.04 ubuntu as well.
[15:14] <hhhzzzarn> happening*
[15:16] <hhhzzzarn> anyways.
[15:18] <recon_lap> hhhzzzarn: what netbook you got?
[15:19] <hhhzzzarn> acer aspire one d257, upgraded to 2gb ram, dual core 1.6
[15:20] <hhhzzzarn> just upgraded the ram to 2gb.
[15:20] <hhhzzzarn> you have one too?
[15:28] <recon_lap> hhhzzzarn: no, just have a nice setup guide for 1015pn , not sure if it any use to you though
[15:35] <chuck> Hi all
[15:39] <recon_lap> !hi | chuck
[15:43] <hhhzzzarn> go help at #ubuntu channel :)
[15:44] <chuck> I'm attempting to install an xubuntu desktop on top of a ubuntu server for vnc use, but i'm having issues getting past the login screen locally and when I VNC in I only get an xfce terminal emulator. Are there any guides handy for this kinda thing?
[15:45] <hhhzzzarn> chuck, I have experience with that before :)
[15:45] <hhhzzzarn> chuck, may I know what will you be using your gui server for :)
[15:46] <chuck> I want to try and get a few eve online clients running on it
[15:46] <hhhzzzarn> gamer server or bot client related maybe?
[15:46] <chuck> so i can remote into it while im away from home
[15:46] <hhhzzzarn> I had two good guides bookmarked last year. Let me try to find it for you.
[15:47] <chuck> thankyou :)
[15:48] <hhhzzzarn> it will take a while.
[15:48] <hhhzzzarn> because the other website forum that had the good guides is no longer running.
[15:51] <chuck> it sucks when that happens
[15:51] <GridCube> how do i easily play a mid file?
[15:51] <GridCube> :/
[15:51] <GridCube> it cant be that hard
[15:53] <hhhzzzarn> gridcube, did you searched it online first?
[15:53] <GridCube> hhhzzzarn: i did, but i just cant believe its so incredibly complex just to play a midi file
[15:53] <hhhzzzarn> chuck: http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=977316
[15:54] <hhhzzzarn> chuck: you have to change the xstartup file for vnc.
[15:55] <recon_lap> GridCube: a midi file? dont you need midi hardware connected to do that.
[15:56] <GridCube> its... just a karaoke song...
[15:57] <GridCube> lol i need to patch the kernel just to play some midis XD
[15:57] <hhhzzzarn> gridcube: http://thameera.wordpress.com/2011/04/08/playing-midi-files-in-ubuntu/
[15:57] <recon_lap> GridCube: maybe with somthing like this http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man1/bristol.1.html
[15:58] <GridCube> XD ajaja this is ridiculous
[15:58] <GridCube> !info bristol
[15:59] <recon_lap> GridCube: not really, midi files are not compressed audio files
[16:01] <hhhzzzarn> can't vlc play midi?
[16:01] <GridCube> not mine
[16:01] <GridCube> i've tryied
[16:09] <hhhzzzarn> have you tried the link i provided?
[16:10] <GridCube> hhhzzzarn: im doing that
[16:11] <GridCube> \o/ SUCCESS!
[16:11] <GridCube> thanks hhhzzzarn
[16:12] <hhhzzzarn> I do not consider myself as experienced as to provide help directly but I can good searching and keyword skills :)
[16:12] <GridCube> its funny because the midi was the final fantasy IV(II) victory fanfare so it felt expecially expecial!
[16:12] <hhhzzzarn> not can. am*
[16:12] <GridCube> hhhzzzarn: yeah me too, but i was just shocked most sites went to recommend kernel patches to play midis
[16:13] <hhhzzzarn> I always wanted to play final fantasy or atleast be in the game world but we never had a console
[16:13] <GridCube> me neither, but that never stoped me
[16:13] <hhhzzzarn> i don't think finaly fantasy is that realistically beautifull environments, does it?
[16:14] <hhhzzzarn> as good as the concept arts.
[16:14] <GridCube> i liked the old ones, pixels where awesome :D
[16:14] <GridCube> !ot
[16:14] <chuck> hhhzzzarn: Also Success! Thanks for the help. The link you gave me wasn't quite right but it put me onto the right track: http://potchery.blogspot.co.uk/2008/12/xubuntu-via-vnc.html
[16:14] <GridCube> please join #xubuntu-offtopic :)
[16:16] <hhhzzzarn> I usually extract search keywords from those types to guide me.
[16:16] <hhhzzzarn> from those types of guides to guide me further.
[16:17] <hhhzzzarn> i did
[16:17] <hhhzzzarn> join #xubuntu-offtopic
[16:20] <andrea> hy everyonr
[16:21] <andrea> everyone
[16:21] <andreOne> hy everyone
[16:22] <GridCube> !hi | andreOne
[16:22] <andreOne> hy i need help
[16:22] <andreOne> with videos on xubuntu
[16:22] <andreOne> i m not able to see any videos
[16:24] <hhhzzzarn> which type of videos?
[16:24] <hhhzzzarn> on youtube for example?
[16:25] <hhhzzzarn> have you installed the restricted extra package during installation (required internet connection)?
[16:29] <recon_lap> andreOne: also try sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[16:29] <andreOne> i m on it right now
[16:31] <andreOne> to install the restricted extras package the system required me to uninstall the "libav codec library" and the "libav utility lybrary", does this sounds good to you?
[16:31] <GridCube> yes
[16:32] <andreOne> ok, than it should be working right?
[16:33] <andreOne> i download them from the software centre and thats it ?
[16:35] <hhhzzzarn> yes
[16:35] <hhhzzzarn> try your videos now.
[16:36] <andreOne> still downloading
[16:38] <andreOne> where are u guys from? im chatting from italy
[16:40] <GridCube> :) we are from all over the world, if you want to talk stuff thats not related to your problems please use the #xubuntu-offtopic channel :)
[16:40] <andreOne> sorry
[16:40] <GridCube> :D dont worry
[16:40] <andreOne> i m a newbe
[16:41] <GridCube> :) thats why i told you, so you learn :D
[16:41] <andreOne> thanks
[16:59] <mateusz_> hi
[16:59] <mateusz_> i have problem
[16:59] <mateusz_> i cant actualize my xubuntu
[16:59] <recon_lap> mateusz_: ??
[17:10] <TheSheep> recon_lap: he meant update
[17:29] <HunterZ> Is there a list somewhere of packages installed by Xubuntu 12.10 during a clean install?
[17:45] <Macuser> http://pastebin.com/AE3Mi8n4
[17:48] <Macuser> hey stonewall can you help me out with something?
[18:02] <HunterZ> Macuser: Boot a livecd that has partition editing tools, like this one: http://partedmagic.com/doku.php
[18:04] <recon_lap> all install disks have partition tools built in
[18:06] <recon_lap> just select "somthing else" and manually configure partitions
[19:05] <gonccalo> hi, where can i fing a xubuntu image for powerpc?
[19:06] <Unit193> There isn't one by default, but you may be able to use the mini ppc image.
[19:07] <Unit193> IIRC, Lubuntu is the only ppc version?
[19:10] <gonccalo> Only the Lubuntu works with powerpc?
[19:11] <Unit193> Not exactly what I meant, just that it may be the only one pre-built.
[19:11] <Unit193> !ppc
[19:13] <gonccalo> Thx
[19:36] <ncmccx> maybe some one can help me i have a laptop and installed xubuntu but thr brightness cant be adjusted
[19:52] <newb> desktop  sidebar /icons missing after installing ubuntu12.10
[19:54] <newb> any solutions ?
[19:59] <MrHotsauce> you may want to ask in #ubuntu newb as they may have an idea
[20:02] <newb> where is that  mrhotsauce ?
[20:02] <MrHotsauce> type /join #ubuntu
[20:02] <newb> ty
[20:02] <MrHotsauce> np
[20:03] <MrHotsauce> this room is specifically xubuntu related and your issue seems to be from ubuntu thats the reason im telling you to try asking them
[20:11] <AlmarPhudd> How long does the xubuntu download take, been all day so far
[20:12] <MrHotsauce> depends on your internet speeed
[20:12] <MrHotsauce> it only took me about 5 min
[21:29] <nantou> my appereance is now somewhat broken since the upgrade (not fresh) to 12.10: some Icons are double the regular size and break the menu, I cannot edit tracks in rythmbox, and the appereance is too a little weird: every time I pass the mouse on an icon a blue bar appears, every opened app has a blue bar as the menu bar (top of every app)
[21:29] <nantou> any tips?
[21:30] <nantou> now im running sudo apt-get autoremove
[21:31] <holstein> nantou: i would probably just make a new user, and see what things look like.. and think about removing some config files int he /home dir
[21:32] <nantou> holstein, which ones?
[21:33] <holstein> nantou: i wouldnt just start remvoing. i would test as a new user.. and then just start looking at the ones for the issues you are having... renaming and allowing new ones to "spawn".. from .config for example
[21:34] <nantou> aaa... I only have 5GB free space, enough?
[21:34] <holstein> should be..
[21:36] <nantou> i am my only user, can I log in as regular user without shutting the apps I am using right now?
[21:36] <nantou> I mean log in as user 2, then back as user 1 and all opened apps will still be there...
[21:38] <holstein> nantou: i would just ake a new user.. and loging as that user..
[22:31] <XATRIX> Hi guys, i have a problem, when i start my laptop, i receive a message about "Network service discovery disabled... avahi..."
[22:31] <XATRIX> How can i turn it off completely ? I have no avahi-service running in any runlevel
[22:31] <XATRIX> What is actually does this checks ?
[22:36] <David-A> XATRIX: your internet-service-provider's dns have a ".local" domain that should be more local. (a give in to Microsoft as I understand it). one solution is to use another dns, or to change a setting in one of your config files.
[22:37] <XATRIX> What kind of settings ?
[22:37] <XATRIX> And can i simply off these checks ?
[22:38] <David-A> XATRIX: there is a file where you can turn off that check, or you can change what DNS server you use (instead of your ISPs DNS). I dont have the details in my head. I changed DNS if I recall correctly.
[22:39] <XATRIX> I have no other DNS servers to use , just my current, or 8.8.8.8
[22:40] <XATRIX> What if i simply do avahi remove from the system , is it an option ?
[22:41] <David-A> XATRIX: I don't remember having seen that as a good option. I think change dns is the best option if you want to have network printers and such to autoconfigure.
[22:42] <David-A> !avahi
[22:42] <XATRIX> I don't use such a things here :) So i don't have to have autoconfigured things so far...
[22:50] <nantou> applications menu doesnt respond to delete or move commands, what do I do?
[22:52] <holstein> !alacarte
[22:52] <holstein> well.. you can try alacarte... or http://wiki.xfce.org/howto/customize-menu
[23:07] <David-A> XATRIX: see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/avahi/+bug/327362 , it seems the easy solution is to edit /etc/default/avahi-daemon
[23:09] <David-A> ubottu: can you forward that to wherever xatrix went...
[23:11] <nady> hi
[23:23] <asterismo> hi
[23:23] <asterismo> yesterday network manager went nuts
[23:24] <asterismo> i'm using ubuntu 12.04
[23:24] <asterismo> xubuntu 12.04 i mean
[23:24] <asterismo> in a Samsung N150 Plus netbook
[23:24] <asterismo> and wireless is acting strange
[23:25] <asterismo> it cannot see my home network
[23:25] <asterismo> it only show the option to connect to a hidden network
[23:25] <asterismo> wtf?
[23:25] <asterismo> aby ideas?
[23:29] <nantou> what do these 2 commands do?
[23:29] <nantou>     sudo apt-get install aptitude && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade
[23:29] <nantou>     sudo apt-get update -f && sudo apt-get -f install
[23:34] <pimperle> hi
[23:36] <pimperle> i need a small tip. i installed xubuntu on my new ssd with full disk encryption. /home resides on a raid1, also encrypted. both use luks and lvm. Now i'd like to enter only one passphrase during boot. I could use a key for the /home raid, but then the keyfile will be accessible when the system runs. any ideas how i can make it such that i only have to add the key once?
[23:37] <pimperle> i thought of using gpg with a keyfile, but that would have to be decrypted twice as well (or be stored somewhere).