[12:42] <Kilos> hi henkj first time here?
[12:43] <Kilos> afternoon everyone
[12:44] <bakuman> hi Oom Kilos 
[12:45] <Kilos> bakuman, what you know about kde booting to black screen
[12:45] <Kilos> after install
[12:45] <Kilos> i tried ctrl+alt+f12 and alt+f12 but didnt work
[12:45] <Kilos> where im going wrong
[12:46] <Kilos> gotta untick desktop effects
[12:47] <Kilos> the fly and weed know but i forgot
[12:47] <bakuman> Don't have much experience with KDE, you should try Tonberry when he's here
[12:48] <Kilos> lol
[12:48] <Kilos> i kept getting a popup saying some app had crashed and when i looked at details it was nepomuk backup thing
[12:49] <Kilos> removed it and it also removed 1/2 of kde so did a clean install but now i forgot how to get to the desktop to kill them effects till nvidia is installed
[12:49] <Kilos> grrrr
[12:49] <Kilos> domdonner
[12:53] <Kilos> hehe got it alt+shift+F12
[12:53] <Kilos> took like 4 hours to remember that
[13:11] <inetpro> good afternoon
[13:13]  * tumbleweed waves from heathrow - on my way to UDS
[13:13] <Kilos> fly safe tumbleweed 
[13:13] <Kilos> hi inetpro 
[13:13] <tumbleweed> I have a nexus 7 with Ubuntu on it, in my bag
[13:13] <tumbleweed> it work ssuprisingly well
[13:13] <inetpro> tumbleweed: nice!
[13:14] <tumbleweed> (but pretty slow, too)
[13:14] <inetpro> hmm... 
[13:14] <inetpro> slow is not good
[13:14] <inetpro> hi Kilos
[13:14] <tumbleweed> tbh, the onscreen keyboard is so painful tha tthe speed isn't a problem
[13:15] <Kilos> wbb need modem on new kde install
[13:22]  * tumbleweed wanders off
[14:16] <Kilos> lo
[14:18] <Kilos> 12.04 really been a painful experience 3g wise
[14:25] <charlvn> Kilos: hi, how so?
[14:26] <Kilos> lol i can never install and have it work without gyppoing something first\
[14:26] <Kilos> i got a script somewhere that fixes it but heaven knows where
[14:27] <Kilos> will ask mage tomorrow
[14:28] <Kilos> he remembers a bit better
[14:51] <charlvn> Kilos: sounds really irritating
[14:51] <charlvn> i used to have problems with my 3g a long time ago
[14:51] <charlvn> i thought, if i ever wanted to use 3g on a regular basis, it might be worth while to invest in a mifi or something similar
[14:51] <Kilos> lol i been lu8cky since 8.10 till 12.04
[14:52] <charlvn> but those are also quite expensive last i checked
[14:52] <charlvn> in NL they sell for like 100 euro
[14:52] <Kilos> wow
[14:52] <Kilos> 3g modems go on specials all the time
[14:53] <charlvn> yeah it's worth while waiting and grabbing one when it's on special
[14:53] <Kilos> these guys got a good fix
[14:53] <charlvn> but then as long as your laptop / desktop can get onto wifi you can get on 3g as well
[14:53] <charlvn> no more driver hassles etc
[14:53] <Kilos> http://www.thefanclub.co.za/how-to/how-auto-connect-ubuntu-1204-gsm-mobile-broadband-connection-on-boot-startup-service
[14:53] <Kilos> ah
[14:53] <charlvn> ah nice
[14:54] <Kilos> dont you need to plugin a 3g modem
[14:54] <Kilos> lappy got it built in?
[14:54] <charlvn> no i mean, a mifi router is basically a device that connects to the umts network and then serves local clients via a built-in hotspot
[14:54] <charlvn> so as long as you can connect to the wifi hotspot it works
[14:55] <Kilos> ah
[14:55] <charlvn> very handy
[14:55] <charlvn> you can also easily connect multiple devices to the internet via one router
[14:56] <charlvn> i think it can serve like 10 devices simultaneously etc
[14:56] <Kilos> wow
[14:56] <charlvn> you can even build your own one using the right hw+sw if you have the time
[14:56] <charlvn> but overall it might be cheaper to buy one out of the box, unless you have spare hw lying around
[14:57] <Kilos> what kinda hw
[14:57] <charlvn> well you need a 3g modem for one thing, a small cheap motherboard that can run linux, maybe a flash drive to install linux on, and a wifi interface
[14:58] <charlvn> there are a bunch of really cheap linux-based mini-computers that have been coming out the last while
[14:58] <Kilos> whew
[14:58] <charlvn> but it's a bit of a niche so it might be a mail order thing
[15:08] <Kilos> charlvn, you busy?
[15:10]  * Kilos needs schooling on how to copy that script from that fanclub link
[15:10] <charlvn> sure, what's the link?
[15:11] <Kilos> no tight click copy option and ctrl c and v dont work
[15:11] <Kilos> http://www.thefanclub.co.za/how-to/how-auto-connect-ubuntu-1204-gsm-mobile-broadband-connection-on-boot-startup-service
[15:11] <Kilos> much too clever for me
[15:12] <Kilos> even tried ctrlc and ctrl v in slexy but no gooddunno how mage did it
[15:12] <charlvn> hmmm lemme just see
[15:13] <charlvn> wow this is not handy
[15:13] <Kilos> only that script bit dont copy
[15:13] <Kilos> weird
[15:14] <charlvn> what i did was i just clicked inside the script and pressed ctrl+a and then ctrl+c and it worked
[15:14] <charlvn> here is the one: https://raw.github.com/gist/3968866/48d3332eadf9773a5b2cdec55ffb325f01258fc8/gistfile1.txt
[15:15] <Kilos> ty charlvn 
[15:15] <charlvn> here is the other: https://raw.github.com/gist/3968868/79e8ba68537ebea427c2f5090ec18b0e81cacb2d/gistfile1.txt
[15:15] <Kilos> ctrl+a is what
[15:15] <charlvn> select all
[15:15] <Kilos> ah and then the ctrl+c to copy
[15:15] <charlvn> yup
[15:15] <Kilos> gracias
[15:16] <charlvn> if that still doesn't work, just open the urls above and copy from there
[15:16] <charlvn> no prob :_
[15:16] <charlvn> :)
[15:18] <Kilos> will do ty. still no luck with ctrl+v on a file here or on slexy.org
[15:19] <Kilos> how did you paste it?
[15:20] <charlvn> just ctrl+v as usual
[15:20] <charlvn> hmmm, strange
[15:21] <charlvn> yeah just works for me: http://slexy.org/raw/s2187MlZH9
[15:21] <Kilos> dont work for me pastes an old copied link
[15:21] <Kilos> grrr
[15:21] <charlvn> hmmm, sounds like the copy didn't work for you
[15:22] <charlvn> what happens if you try to copy from the above link?
[15:22] <Kilos> ya
[15:22] <charlvn> here's the second one: http://slexy.org/raw/s20p2MtkBN
[15:22] <charlvn> very weird though
[15:22] <charlvn> but that other site does have an unhandy code block thing
[15:22] <Kilos> murphy's law
[15:22] <Kilos> if you can struggle you will
[15:22] <charlvn> :D
[15:23] <Kilos> ty again
[15:23] <charlvn> if it's possible to struggle, you will struggle for the longest possible period of time :)
[15:23] <charlvn> something like that?
[15:23] <Kilos> hahaha
[15:23] <charlvn> np
[15:23] <charlvn> glad to help
[16:20] <Kilos> i go try get kde to see 3g modem again. wbb later
[17:57] <charlvn> hi smileE17 
[18:00] <smileE17> hi charl :D
[18:03] <charlvn> how's it going?
[18:09] <smileE17> good :) and you? :p
[18:09] <smileE17> how do you like http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chakra_Linux ? :p
[18:10] <charlvn> i have tried it actually, a long time ago
[18:10] <charlvn> more than a year i mean, about 18 months or so
[18:10] <charlvn> i thought it was quite good at the time
[18:10] <charlvn> although i still used ubuntu as my main operating system
[18:12] <charlvn> actually there are a lot of really good "smaller" linux distributions out there but ubuntu at the moment satisfies all my needs
[18:14] <smileE17> yeah, charlvn :p
[18:14] <smileE17> but normally i dislike chakra linux :p
[18:14] <smileE17> (i mean: dislike big distros)
[18:15] <smileE17> but i like chakra linux (and it's KDE, which I hate normally too :P )
[18:17] <charlvn> interesting, why do you dislike big distros?
[18:18] <charlvn> politics/economic interests/something else?
[18:24] <smileE17> because it takes forever to download them :p
[18:24] <smileE17> and they need a lot of disk space, which i usually don't have :p
[18:52] <Squirm> evening
[18:54] <smileE17> good evening, Squirm 
[18:54] <smileE17> :p
[18:56] <Squirm> hello smileE17, charlvn 
[18:57] <smileE17> :)
[18:57] <charlvn> smileE17: nah, popular distro's like ubuntu have a ton of good mirrors - at work i download ubuntu isos from the local mirror at 40MBps
[18:58] <charlvn> it takes 20 seconds flat to download any one of them
[18:58] <charlvn> hi Squirm 
[18:58] <Banlam> i was only getting 1.4mbps from kubuntu now now
[18:58] <Kerbero> when out IT department is not breaking stuff i get 1gbps to the SA mirror
[18:58] <Banlam> MBps
[18:58] <Banlam> but i didn't select a mirror
[18:59] <Squirm> If I were them, I'd route the downloads to the closest location
[19:00] <Kerbero> well that is the idea behind ubuntu's repo's
[19:00] <Kerbero> if you choose Johannesburg as your time zone, za.archive.ubuntu.com is set as your repo
[19:02] <charlvn> Kerbero: is that to the tenet mirror? that one is very good
[19:02] <Kerbero> jip
[19:02] <charlvn> not good from here obviously, but good if you're from inside south africa
[19:03] <charlvn> especially if you are on an academic network because tenet anyway right? connected to tenet i mean
[19:03] <Kerbero> we are supposed to have a 10gbps fiber to there
[19:03] <Kerbero> yes
[19:03] <charlvn> yes that's good
[19:03] <Kerbero> i did get nice speeds once doing a iperf to that mirror
[19:03] <Kerbero> but lately it is not that great
[19:04] <charlvn> Kerbero: it could be because a new ubuntu version has been released and now everyone is downloading from the mirror
[19:04] <charlvn> the mirrors take great strain right after a new release of a major distro
[19:04] <Kerbero> no, i mean lately as in the past few months
[19:04] <charlvn> ah i see
[19:05] <charlvn> i would like to know why i get exactly 40MBps from my local mirror though, not more, not less
[19:05] <charlvn> and it's consistent
[19:05] <charlvn> i wonder if they limit each tcp connection to 320mbps or something
[19:06] <charlvn> from some other servers i get 95+ MBps
[19:20] <charlvn> nn all
[19:34] <smileE17> bye :p