[00:00] <PatrickDickey> thaurwylth: you can click on the flag to find out which version it's fixed in. Or if the fix has been released or not. But, yes, it typically means that they have a fix for the problem.
[00:00] <alsu> thaurwylth: I know what I'm doing version-wise, but I'm not sure how to ask aptitude to do it
[00:01] <L3top> kate_r: you are welcome to try... however typically the depndency nigtmare will persist your isssue. Feel free to try, but do not rm the files, simply mv them someplace safe.
[00:01]  * PatrickDickey is going to defer to L3top on kate_r's question. He knows a lot more about this than I do.
[00:02] <kate_r> L3top, so is everything under /etc/apt/sources.list.d a ppa name?
[00:02] <kate_r> repo name, i mena
[00:02] <L3top> yes kate_r...
[00:03] <kate_r> e.g., ppa-purge google-chrome.list?
[00:03] <kate_r> or without '.list'?
[00:04] <thaurwylth> Alsu, I have no experience on how to do that, but my first advice would nonetheless be: don't try Aptitude, try directly with Apt from the command line. Ah, but yes, you need to activate the repositories somehow. Even I do it graphically these days. Tricky.
[00:08] <kate_r> L3top, hmm i've tried many combinations but nothing seems to be found: http://pastebin.com/sSPjj9Ry
[00:09] <blud> my hard drive fails to mount, is there anything i can do?
[00:10] <bfortified> wana have a lil fun with my wife and her fresh Ubuntu install (her first) easy way to open a terminal and echo somthing on it from ssh?
[00:10] <nrdb> I have a virbr0 setup, with a br_tap (192.168.122.254) interface attached.... I have some VirtualBox guests using bridge networking to virbr0... wireshark says that virbr0 is getting ARP packet looking for 192.168.122.254 , but not getting a response :-( ... when I ping from the host to 192.168.122.254 everything works fine... can anyone give me any pointers on what is wrong?
[00:10] <PatrickDickey> blud, what error messages do you get when you try to mount it?
[00:10] <bjrohan> Does anyone have experience with Kazam? Mine only records audio intermittently in the video :-(
[00:11] <qmanjr5> bfortified: SSH in, run gnome-terminal
[00:11] <qmanjr5> Well, that's for gnome-terminal
[00:12] <bfortified> qmanjr5: k can do that. Would this work? gnome-terminal echo "Hello"
[00:13] <anadon> Is this the right channel for odd unity questions?  AKA, I'm using arch and nux has compile errors.
[00:14] <blud> ntfs_mst_post_read_fixup_warn: magic: 0xffffff  size: 1024   usa_ofs: 65535 usa_count: 65534: invalid arguement    Record 0 has no FILE magic (0xffffff)   Failed to load $MFT: Input/output error    NTFS is either inconsitent or ... hardward fault or softraid blah blah blah  PatrickDickey
[00:14] <saikobee> My tty in Ubuntu 12.10 goes offscreen sometimes. The last few lines will just be offscreen. I think this might have started after I used dpkg-reconfigure console-setup. Any ideas anyone?
[00:15] <johnjacobjingerh> how might i move a swap partition to the end of a disk?
[00:15] <PatrickDickey> blud paste the mount command in here (the one you're using)
[00:15] <johnjacobjingerh> right now i have it smack between one partition and one unallocated space
[00:15] <nrdb> johnjacobjingerh, you don't need to move... just create one there and use it
[00:16] <anadon> blud: NTFS size should be well over 1024--I'd guess someone set a magnet on your HDD.
[00:16] <johnjacobjingerh> how do I tell ubuntu to use that as the SWAP?
[00:16] <anadon> johnjacobjingerh: fdisk?
[00:16] <johnjacobjingerh> gparted
[00:16] <blud> sudo mount -t ntfs -3g /dev/sdb1 /media/external
[00:17] <nrdb> johnjacobjingerh, it has to be the correct disk type... see fdisk ... then use the "swapon" command
[00:17] <anadon> johnjacobjingerh: that's a google question
[00:17] <blud> more info: this drive doesnt get recongized in windows, there seems to be something wrong with this drive. I was hoping i could some how still access it in windows or see the file names or something
[00:17] <nrdb> johnjacobjingerh, you might need to setup /etc/fstab too.
[00:17] <lapak10> any good alternative to DREAMWEAVER for ubuntu???
[00:18] <PatrickDickey> johnjacobjingerh: create the partition and format it as swap. Then use the sudo swapoff -a command to shut your curent swap off, and then sudo swapon /dev/sdx (where x is the partition you just created). Once you know that the new swap works, change the information in /etc/fstab.
[00:18] <johnjacobjingerh> ah ok
[00:18] <johnjacobjingerh> thanks patrickdickey i'll give that a shot as soon as my system is finishing being installed
[00:18] <PatrickDickey> johnjacobjingerh: I'd close everything that you don't need open before you do the swapoff and swapon commands though. Otherwise you could have problems.
[00:18] <anadon> blud:  No.  It's gone to hell.  Unless you want to sort though the 0's and 1's it is very hary.  Services like that takes days to weeks and cost more than your computr.
[00:18] <mz|`> lapak10: vim.
[00:18] <saikobee> lapak10: Bluefish?
[00:19] <nrdb> I have a virbr0 setup, with a br_tap (192.168.122.254) interface attached.... I have some VirtualBox guests using bridge networking to virbr0... wireshark says that virbr0 is getting ARP packet looking for 192.168.122.254 , but not getting a response :-( ... when I ping from the host to 192.168.122.254 everything works fine... can anyone give me any pointers on what is wrong?
[00:19] <blud> there's go to be *something* i can do though right? (or Try)
[00:19] <PatrickDickey> johnjacobjingerh: You do know that it won't matter which position the swap is in, right? it just has to be there.
[00:19]  * PatrickDickey has had swap sandwhiched between three or four partitions
[00:20] <saikobee> lapak10: Aptana, Amaya, WebStorm IDE, OpenOffice, BlueGriffon
[00:20] <saikobee> lapak10: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_HTML_editors
[00:20] <johnjacobjingerh> PatrickDickey, yes i know, but it's setting between my "/" partition and a 800GB of unallocated space
[00:20] <lapak10> @saikobee thanks!
[00:20] <saikobee> lapak10: No problem, I got that all from Wikipedia ;)
[00:20] <johnjacobjingerh> it's preventing me from extending my "/" to the 800GB space
[00:20] <anadon> nrdb: context?  That might be more a dev channel question.  Anyways, routing on the host OS or phisical bridge?
[00:20] <PatrickDickey> johnjacobjingerh: Ahhh. that explains a lot then.
[00:20] <johnjacobjingerh> yea
[00:21] <johnjacobjingerh> i didnt want a second partition
[00:21] <lapak10> having problem while creating AD-HOC wifi between win7 and ubuntu....any solution to this??
[00:21] <PatrickDickey> johnjacobjingerh: after you do the swapoff and swapon commands, then use gparted to remove the swap between the two partitions. And then resize it.
[00:21] <thaurwylth> OK, I put it up on Askubuntu as well: http://askubuntu.com/questions/207404/does-the-ati-graphic-problem-from-12-04-listed-as-bug-725580-still-exist-in-12-1
[00:21] <PatrickDickey> johnjacobjingerh: you're doing a fresh install right now, correct?
[00:21] <anadon> lapak10: which propocols are you using?
[00:21] <johnjacobjingerh> yes PatrickDickey
[00:22] <johnjacobjingerh> but i'm midway through when i realized what i did
[00:22] <lapak10> protocols???
[00:22] <johnjacobjingerh> so i dont want to have to stop it
[00:22] <lapak10> not sure??
[00:22] <PatrickDickey> johnjacobjingerh: there's a much easier but more boring way to do it then. ;-) When this installation is done, redo the installation. Choose the option to "Use the entire drive".
[00:22] <lapak10> which one to use??......
[00:22] <johnjacobjingerh> i'm just gonna change it after the fact
[00:22] <nrdb> anadon, its is a virtual bridge .... the ping from the host (where the virtual bring and the tap inteface) is OK ... but I can't seem to ping from the VM ... even with the ARP requests appearing in the bridge interface.
[00:22] <anadon> Hey, trying to install unity from scratch and nux has compile issues.  Assistance?
[00:22] <johnjacobjingerh> PatrickDickey, yea i guess... lol
[00:23] <anadon> nrdb: are there any firewalls?  Is the VM set up to return pings?  Many OS's ignore rouge traffic.
[00:23] <nrdb> anadon, you might need to install some -dev packages to get header files.
[00:23]  * PatrickDickey my old boss always used to say work smarter--not harder. Sometimes the easiest solution is the best one to do. Instead of putting a lot of effort into doing it the hard way.
[00:23] <lapak10> WIN 7 AND UBUNTU ADHOC WIFI ISSUES.........ASSISTANCE PLSSS
[00:24] <anadon> nrdb: I'm installing from arch -- I did that and nux still doesn't compile.  I've resorted to pulling from the git repo's and they still haven't worked.
[00:24] <MonkeyDust> PatrickDickey  that's sounds almost like ockham's knife
[00:24] <nrdb> anadon, the VM is sending the pings not receiving them
[00:24] <MonkeyDust> !caps | lapak10
[00:24] <johnjacobjingerh> lapak10, whats the question??
[00:25] <nrdb> anadon, the VM is a fresh 12.04.1 install
[00:25] <anadon> nrdb: the VM part of the VM might be doing something.
[00:25] <lapak10> ohk....i'm having problem while creating a wifi adhoc between win7 and ubuntu12.04
[00:26] <anadon> lapak10: which protocols???
[00:26] <lapak10> i am a beginner...dn know whot protocols means
[00:27] <nrdb> anadon, I am using VirtualBox for the VM there is an ARP request but no response from the tap interface.
[00:27] <anadon> lapak10: Then you have a ton of reading to do.  AD-HOC is a grouping of protocols....wiipedia it.
[00:27] <lapak10> ok :(
 booh-: Could you pastebin the output of "sudo blkid"?   <---- no.
[00:29] <Jordan_U> booh-: Why not?
[00:29] <anadon> nrdb: The packet is either being lost in the host OS or the VM part of the VM.  Check VM settings for networking and you host OS's networking and security settings.  In there has to be the answers.  Else its with virtual drivers at which point I'm out.
[00:29] <booh-> ubuntu isn't installed :p
[00:29] <Jordan_U> booh-: Can you boot from a LiveCD/USB and run "sudo blkid" and pastebin the output?
[00:30] <nrdb> anadon, I can see (via wireshark) that there is a ARP request... brctl says the tap interface is connected... but I dont get a response fro the ARP request from the tap interface
[00:31] <anadon> nrdb: tap?  What is the exact network setup?  This is in the details.
[00:31] <alsu> is there a command to move a file and symlink it back to where it was?
[00:31] <anadon> nrdb: brctl?
[00:31] <nrdb> anadon, a virtual bridge acts like a network hub doesn't it?
[00:31] <alsu> like: mv a b; ln -s b a
[00:32] <booh-> Jordan_U, blkid give me that this drive is ddf_raid_member type.
[00:32] <Jordan_U> alsu: Probably not a single command, though you could make a script / function which would do both operations for you.
[00:33] <anadon> nrdb: No.  A bridge is directed somewhat.  Physical bridges actually are no longer fanufactured, rather switches are used which do have fairly precise redirection and can have security.
[00:33] <booh-> But... If I try to dmraid -E -r /dev/sde I received errors
[00:33] <alsu> Jordan_U: it just seems like something someone would have made. you could call it "rl" for "relocate"
[00:33] <Jordan_U> booh-: Can you pastebin those errors?
[00:33] <booh-> nope, too much informations
[00:34] <anadon> nrdb: Wikipedia networking bridge, networking hub, and networking switch--they'll give some preliminary groundwork for your setup.
[00:34] <Jordan_U> booh-: Why can't you copy and paste into http://pastebin.ubuntu.com or use the "pastebinit" command?
[00:35] <alsu> Jordan_U: the hardest part is figuring out where the file actually ended up. "mv foo /tmp" for example put the file at /tmp/foo not /tmp
[00:36] <asl^^> hi
[00:36] <nrdb> anadon, ok .. thanks
[00:37] <anadon> nrdb: sorry, the problem is in the fine details of your setup.  It's really hard to give a simple answer.
[00:37] <anadon> FFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
[00:40] <Jordan_U> alsu: I think the only special case is when the destination is a directory, and you can simply check for that. #bash can probably help you write a fairly robust script.
[00:40] <booh-> blkid doesn't show me sdc nor sde.  sdd tell me raid member
[00:41] <booh-> dmraid -E -r /dev/sdd  answer: ERROR: ddf1: seeking device "/dev/sdd" to 256055225090048
[00:41] <booh-> ERROR: writing metadata to /dev/sdd, offset 500107861504 sectors, size 0 bytes returned 0
[00:42] <booh-> ERROR: erasing ondisk metadata on /dev/sdd
[00:42] <Jordan_U> booh-: Is there anything on that disk that you want to preserve?
[00:43] <booh-> no
[00:44] <meyou> is it possible to install ubuntu to a separate partition without a bootcd/usb boot?
[00:45] <meyou> i'd like to install from win7 but not to the fake disk method
[00:45] <Jordan_U> booh-: Try running "sudo wipefs --all /dev/sdd"
[00:45] <meyou> i've got free space already on my ssd that windows boots from, any way to get grub and a base install done
[00:45] <meyou> w/o a boot cd or usb stick?
[00:45] <nv> wubi
[00:46] <nv> wubi lets you install ubuntu in windows
[00:46] <meyou> wubi always goes onto an existing partition tho right?
[00:46] <meyou> i have unpartitioned space, would like to do a 'normal' install with real partitions
[00:46] <nv> it installs ubuntu like it is a normal program
[00:46] <MonkeyDust> meyou  wubi goes on a space inside windows
[00:46] <Jordan_U> meyou: There are a few ways to accomplish that, none that I can think of that are any less than very complicated.
[00:46] <meyou> i see
[00:47] <meyou> wonder if i can rig my galaxy nexus to boot/install from then
[00:47] <nv> another option would be to download virtualbox and run Ubuntu in virtual machine
[00:47] <booh-> now in blkid, I saw non of my 3 sata drives.
[00:47] <meyou> i have vmworkstation but i want a native install
[00:47] <ActionParsnip> 13.04 locked and loaded :)
[00:47] <meyou> looks like i need to break down and buy a blank cd
[00:47] <nv> galaxy nexus runs ubuntu but you may need to jtag
[00:47] <booh-> ( I also have 2 hardware drives and 1 ide drive.  I saw them)
[00:48] <MonkeyDust> ActionParsnip  you're a geek
[00:48] <meyou> when will we get bios-level iso mounting!
[00:48] <booh-> I supposed in blkid I only see drives with valid partitions?
[00:48] <ActionParsnip> MonkeyDust: why so? I'd say more of a masochist :)
[00:48] <Jordan_U> meyou: If it can present itself as a USB mass storage device, and if it doesn't also present itself as a CDROM drive (as odd as that sounds, most do), or if your firmware won't be confused by it presenting itself as both a CDROM drive an a USB Mass Storage device, then yes. You can just use it as you would any other USB drive.
[00:49] <meyou> well it shows up in windows as a media device
[00:49] <booh-> Thanks for the wipefs command, I didn't know this command
[00:49] <meyou> slightly different than my old mytouch did, it had a drive letter
[00:49] <nv> jtag
[00:50] <Jordan_U> booh-: You're welcome. And yes, blkid only lists devices which have fileystems or some type of metadata about which it can report.
[00:50] <Jordan_U> meyou: There is probably a setting on the phone to have it present itself as USBMS.
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> booh-: I'd check in BIOS to ensure the devices are detected
[00:51] <booh-> ActionParsnip, Yes they are.
[00:51] <shadowhawkins> hello
[00:51] <spacebarbarian> i can ping IPs but no hosts being resolved anyone know how to fix dns issue without specifying it manually ?
[00:52] <spacebarbarian> 'host google.com' says timed out no servers could be reached
[00:52] <booh-> I have a system install in this system (from scratch) with others drives.  I would like to know if I reinstall all or it's easy to add 3 Sata drives into a Soft Raid Array (raid1) ?
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> spacebarbarian: run:   echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf > /dev/null
[00:53] <booh-> I know how to do it install process... but I don't know how to do it in a working system
[00:53] <Jordan_U> ActionParsnip: I just had booh- run a command which explicitly deletes all metadata that blikid would recgnise, so it's perfectly normal for blkid to not show it now.
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> spacebarbarian: then retry web access etc
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> Jordan_U: I see
[00:53] <ping__> how to instal minimal iso, withc chroot ?
[00:54] <keithclark> I don't seem to be able to get scp to work.  I tried it with the following syntax:  scp keithclark@sample.dlinkddns.com:/movies/PlatoonCD1.avi Platoon.avi but I get a 'No such file' error
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> ping__: you can have grub2 boot the ISO, why would you need a chroot? just boot the CD and install.
[00:54] <keithclark> Does it have to be an absolute directory?
[00:54] <booh-> I will do a reinstall... faster ;-)
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> keithclark: you can also use filezilla
[00:55] <Jordan_U> keithclark: Lose the leading '/'.
[00:55] <keithclark> Jordan_U, oops, thanks!
[00:55] <Jordan_U> keithclark: You're welcome :)
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> booh-: how is it faster? The mini ISO is about 25Mb, so once you have that booted, the rest is all network based. It won't be much faster at all
[00:56] <spacebarbarian> ActionParsnip, still cant resolve, i can see the entry in /etc/resolv.conf
[00:56] <keithclark> ActionParsnip, No, filezilla will not work in this case.  I am transferring between two remote machines via command line.
[00:56] <ActionParsnip> spacebarbarian: can you ping 8.8.8.8?
[00:56] <spacebarbarian> yes
[00:56] <ActionParsnip> keithclark: are both systems desktopless?
[00:56] <keithclark> ActionParsnip, yup
[00:56] <ActionParsnip> spacebarbarian: is the OS fuly updated?
[00:56] <ActionParsnip> keithclark: gotcha
[00:57] <spacebarbarian> spacebarbarian, no because it doesnt have internet :P
[00:57] <keithclark> ActionParsnip, I'm just not used to scp transfers.  Too much time spent in GUI lands!
[00:57] <ActionParsnip> spacebarbarian: if you run:  sudo apt-get update     does it work ok?
[00:57] <ActionParsnip> keithclark: you'll get there ;)
[00:57] <spacebarbarian> nope
[00:57] <spacebarbarian> ActionParsnip, stuck on ocnnecting to ubuntu server
[00:57] <ActionParsnip> spacebarbarian: what is the error you get?
[00:58] <spacebarbarian> closed it before it gave an error 1 sec ill let it run
[00:58] <ActionParsnip> spacebarbarian: do you use a static IP?
[00:58] <allquixotic> Hi, how can I rig up a script that executes when networkmanager brings up a network interface? (*any* interface would be ideal, but I could also live with a *specific* interface)
[00:59] <Starcraftmazter> hi
[00:59] <spacebarbarian> no this is running in virtualbox by the way, it has a DHCP IP and i can ping pretty much any IP
[00:59] <ActionParsnip> allquixotic: I believe wicd can do that
[00:59] <Starcraftmazter> i am using ubuntu 10.04, am i able to find mirrors for its packages anywhere still?
[00:59] <ActionParsnip> spacebarbarian: ahhhhhh, did you set the network to bridged mode?
[00:59] <ActionParsnip> Starcraftmazter: Lucid is supported on both server and desktop til April 2013
[01:00] <kostkon> Starcraftmazter, 10.04 is still supported, the repos are still up.
[01:00] <Starcraftmazter> kostkon: ActionParsnip: sorry i meant 11.04
[01:00] <spacebarbarian> ActionParsnip, yeah its been working fine on bridged till today i just rebooted the VM and it wont resolve any domains
[01:01] <ActionParsnip> Starcraftmazter: its dead tomorrow, or the day after
[01:01] <allquixotic> ActionParsnip: does wicd interfere with or cooperate with network-manager?
[01:01] <Starcraftmazter> ActionParsnip: hasnt been working for me for a long whil;e
[01:01] <kostkon> Starcraftmazter, oh, 11.04 has reached EOL. But check this, it might help you
[01:01] <kostkon> eol | Starcraftmazter
[01:01] <kostkon> oops
[01:01] <kostkon> !eol | Starcraftmazter
[01:01] <Starcraftmazter> basically i am just trying to install a package for 11.04 and i cant
[01:01] <ActionParsnip> allquixotic: it replaces it, you'll need to remove network manager. Let me see if network manager can do similar
[01:02] <allquixotic> ActionParsnip: the wicd packages didn't force me to remove nm
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> allquixotic: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1027173
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> allquixotic: you may find issues if you use both
[01:02] <Jordan_U> allquixotic: ActionParsnip: http://www.techytalk.info/start-script-on-network-manager-successful-connection/
[01:03] <ActionParsnip> allquixotic: /etc/dhcp3/dhclient-enter-hooks.d    put the script there
[01:03] <kostkon> Starcraftmazter, check this part: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades#Requirements
[01:03] <brady> ?
[01:03] <brady> woops
[01:03] <Starcraftmazter> kostkon: i really dont want to upgrade, the reason i havent is because i hate unity
[01:03] <brady> why does the sidebar not always react when i hold the mouse for it to unhide?
[01:03] <Starcraftmazter> kostkon: i just want to install skype for 11.04
[01:04] <kostkon> Starcraftmazter, you can modify your sources.list to point to old-releases.ubuntu.com and then you will be able to install packages
[01:04] <spacebarbarian> ActionParsnip, this vm was running openvpn when i rebooted could that have some leftovers breaking stuff ?
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> Starcraftmazter: grab the deb from the skype site
[01:04] <alusion> When I am viewing the desktop Sphere / Cube / Cylinder with Compiz, I was wondering if there is a way I can zoom in and out?
[01:04] <Starcraftmazter> ActionParsnip: i did, apt doesnt work because of not working sources
[01:04] <kostkon> Starcraftmazter, just remember to give sudo apt-get update afterwards
[01:04] <alusion> While viewing the sphere/cube/cylinder
[01:04] <Starcraftmazter> kostkon: can you elaborate on this a bit
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> Starcraftmazter: then I recommend you upgrade
[01:05] <ActionParsnip> Starcraftmazter: did you run:   sudo apt-get -f install
[01:05] <allquixotic> ActionParsnip, Jordan_U, the solution with putting it in /etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d/ looks like the correct approach; better than dhcp3 because it works with non dhcp connections too
[01:05] <allquixotic> thanks to both for the help, i think i have it working now
[01:05] <whitney5> hello
[01:06] <Jordan_U> allquixotic: You're welcome.
[01:06] <Starcraftmazter> ActionParsnip: yes it doesnt work
[01:06] <Starcraftmazter> ActionParsnip: says things like E: Release 'skype-ubuntu_4.0.0.8-1_amd64.deb' for 'linux-image-2.6.32-22-generic' was not found
[01:06] <Starcraftmazter> ActionParsnip: i really cant use unity, i plan to install a different distro when i build a new computer soonish
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> Starcraftmazter: how are you tring to install the deb exactly?
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> Starcraftmazter: you don't have to use unity
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> Starcraftmazter: Xubuntu, Lubuntu and Kubuntu don't even have it installed. Thought of that?
[01:07] <whitney5> this is xchat ??
[01:07] <kostkon> Starcraftmazter, are you sure that you have a 64bit version of ubuntu?
[01:08] <Starcraftmazter> kostkon: absolutely
[01:08] <Starcraftmazter> ActionParsnip: a matter for another day i think
[01:08] <ActionParsnip> whitney5: this is the ubuntu channel, xchat is just a client to connect to it
[01:08] <ActionParsnip> Starcraftmazter: how did you try and install the deb file you downloaded?
[01:08] <whitney5> ohh  thank u  , im new
[01:08] <Starcraftmazter> ActionParsnip: apt-get -f install package.deb
[01:08] <ActionParsnip> Starcraftmazter: that's not how you install debs
[01:09] <ActionParsnip> Starcraftmazter: apt-get uses the repos, not local debs
[01:09] <kostkon> Starcraftmazter, dpkg -i skype.deb
[01:09] <ActionParsnip> Starcraftmazter: run:  sudo dpkg -i ~/Downloads/skype-ubuntu_4.0.0.8-1_amd64.deb
[01:09] <kostkon> Starcraftmazter, actually:  sudo dpkg -i skype_filename.deb
[01:09] <Starcraftmazter> ActionParsnip: kostkon: ah thanks guys it worked ^_^
[01:10] <Dataman> this seems like a very informational server
[01:10] <kostkon> Starcraftmazter, of course you now have to see if it runs ok
[01:10] <ActionParsnip> Starcraftmazter: you're gonna install a tonne of 32bit deps too, the 64bit deb is just 32bit skyoe :)
[01:10] <Dragonster82> Hello everybody!
[01:11] <Starcraftmazter> ActionParsnip: no it seems to work well
[01:12] <sergio> hello everyone
[01:13] <blackshirt> hello
[01:13] <ActionParsnip> Starcraftmazter: your release is dead real soon, you may want to upgrade
[01:14] <Starcraftmazter> ActionParsnip: what do you mean dead?
[01:15] <DarkAceLaptop> who's going to fix the packaging system?
[01:15] <kostkon> !question | DarkAceLaptop
[01:16] <DarkAceLaptop> WINE wants to remove packages it doesn't need to on Ubuntu/Debian-based distros
[01:16] <Guest36621> i've been trying to install Divx and i keep getting this error message like this one encountered a serious problem
[01:16] <DarkAceLaptop> to install itself
[01:16] <spacebarbarian> ActionParsnip, anything else I can try :/ ?
[01:17] <Guest36621> please i've been trying for the last five months
[01:17] <kostkon> DarkAceLaptop, using apt-get or the usc to remove it?
[01:18] <Guest36621> can some please help me?
[01:18] <DarkAceLaptop> kostkon, I'm installing (WINE) and it wants to remove packages it doesn't even know what they are: alien debhelper gettext intltool-debian logmein-hamachi lsb-core po-debconf
[01:18] <kostkon> Guest36621, you mean divx player or the divx codec?
[01:19] <Guest36621> yes divx player
[01:19] <kostkon> Guest36621, with wine?
[01:20] <alsu> how do I install php-fpm on Ubuntu (12.04)?
[01:20] <nv> you need matroska and h264 and mpeg and ffdshow and divx streamer codecs
[01:20] <alsu> oh it's called php5-fpm
[01:21] <Guest36621> i have in my applications  Wine, wine 1.4, winetricks and wine -gecko 1.4
[01:21] <DarkAceLaptop> Guest36621, #winehq
[01:21] <nv> *why* are you trying to install the DivX player in windows? linux does not need it, its not ment for linux
[01:22] <DarkAceLaptop> ^
[01:22] <nv> in linux*
[01:22] <Guest36621> where can i get the #winehg
[01:22] <DarkAceLaptop> /join #winehq
[01:22] <nv> type /join #winehq
[01:22] <OerHeks> divx plays fine in VLC
[01:23] <nv> you just need to install the codecs i mentioned
[01:23] <nv> and you might be missing some audio codec as well
[01:23] <spacebarbarian> my ubuntu vm can ping 8.8.8.8 but wont resolve any hostnames anyone know how to fix ?
[01:23] <HulkHogan> nope
[01:23] <MK`> does Ubuntu put cached memory into swap? Or only ram?
[01:24] <davyde> hi everyone!!
[01:24] <HulkHogan> ram b4 swap
[01:24] <nv> it only uses swap when it runs out of ram or goes into hibernation from what i've seen
[01:24] <Guest36621> where can i get this  #winehq ?
[01:24] <nv> type /join #winehq
[01:24] <MK`> thanks HulkHogan.
[01:24] <nv> right here
[01:25] <nv> *why* are you trying to install the DivX player in linux? linux does not need it, its not ment for linux
[01:25] <Dragonster82> Hey guys, anyone here knows how to install the drivers for Nvidia GT 540M in Ubuntu 12.10? I heard that ubuntu still doesn't support Optimus
[01:25] <davyde> i have just installed a ubuntu 12.04 minimal.. now i have to choose DM and DE.. i want to try unity wich packages should i take? and which dm? gdm?
[01:25] <MK`> nv: I have a laptop with limited memory and it tends to put stuff in swap when I have a memory leak or something, but then leave it there. Every few days I need to swap off/swap on to clean it out.
[01:25] <HulkHogan> lightdm?
[01:26] <OerHeks> Dragonster82, optimus > bumblebee >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[01:26] <Guest36621> where can i get this #winehq ??
[01:26] <Dragonster82> Oerheks I know bumblebee but I want to be able to run everything with my Nvidia graphics. I don't wanna go to terminal and type optirun blablabla
[01:26] <HulkHogan> install wine
[01:27] <nv> MK`,  dont know what to saw. i have a laptop with the same problem. it takes forever to reboot so i just put it to sleep when im done. what i did was make a button that turns swap off and a button that turns swap on
[01:27] <OerHeks> Dragonster82, then don't.
[01:27] <DarkAceLaptop> Guest36621, type /join #winehq
[01:27] <Dragonster82> OerHeks so there is no way that I can set Nvidia as default?
[01:28] <OerHeks> Dragonster82, try #bumblebee here on #freenode, those guys are up2date
[01:28] <nv> i also made a button for rovclock to overclock the grfx and a button to set it back to normal speed
[01:29] <xreal> Hmm. I've installed Fluxbox with XDM on Ubunutu und Debian. I then want to run rDesktop to connect to a Windows client via RDP. The X-server seems to be started by another user than the current user, so I can't access the desktop. When uninstalling XDM, everything works... Any idea?
[01:29] <nv> by button i mean launcher icon
[01:32] <rajmahendra> I have upgraded to 12.10 yesterday when i try to urn some graphic based applications they are not getting started! anyone tell me why ?
[01:33] <nv> uninstall and re-install?
[01:33] <nv> the apps in question
[01:34] <rajmahendra> nv i did that but not working when i double click it its not starting at all.
[01:34] <nv> upgrading distros can be messy. best to make a backup and do a clean install
[01:35] <rajmahendra> nv, i also tried this sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:36] <nv> something is not right, and i dont know how to help you narrow down what package it is. my advise would be to backup you data and do a clean install
[01:37] <davelindberg> @rajmahendra I had similar issues, random things (apps and processes) not working after upgrade.  I opened up terminal and typed "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" without quotes and <enter> and after the updates 12.10 is way better now.
[01:37] <nv> interesting
[01:38] <nv> the sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get dpkg --configure
[01:38] <nv> then*
[01:39] <davelindberg> @nv  I understand that clean installs are best ( for any OS), but is there an easy way to get my data back on Ubuntu?  I am coming from Windows and not sure where get installed yet.
[01:39] <nv> all the stuff you saved is in /home/%youruserfolder%
[01:40] <davelindberg> @nv  Great!  Thanks. :)
[01:40] <nv> you can just copy the folder
[01:42] <rajmahendra> davelindberg, i did the update adn upgrade they are uptodate
[01:43] <ErKa> hei all.. im have problem with ubuntu
[01:43] <rajmahendra> i am trying to run secondlife previous verison it worked fine but 12.10 is not at all running
[01:44] <ErKa> when im booting ubuntu my screen so error
[01:44] <kate_r> hi
[01:44] <ErKa> my VGA using ATI HD 5500
[01:44] <blackshirt> erka, more detail with your problems?
[01:44] <stimoceiver> so I've got a machine thats halfway stuck  between 12.04 and 12.10 ... /etc/lsb-release says 12.10 but /usr/share/python-apt/templates/Ubuntu.info dint have anything about quantal in it post-upgrade
[01:44] <davelindberg> @rajmahendra Ah... When I went from 11.10 to 12.04 (I think) I bought a game I forgot the name, but it wasn't compatible with 12.04 even though it ran in 11.10.  I assumed it was an issue with the game... Vendor could not get me back working so I had to stop playing. :(
[01:45] <kate_r> i've refreshed my repo several times already, but the latest version of libkrb5-3 is still 1.10-beta1.2ubuntu0.1 rather than ubuntu0.3. does anyone know why?
[01:46] <blackshirt> kate_r, what repo you are using?
[01:46] <stimoceiver> also none of the sources in /etc/apt/sources.list mentioned quantal
[01:46] <ErKa> my display being destroyed / error when I boot using ubuntu and other linux distros
[01:46] <stimoceiver> they all still said precise
[01:46] <rajmahendra> davelindberg, noooooooooo i need sl :(  last time i did soem change in  .conf file but i forgot waht i did there
[01:46] <kate_r> blackshirt, i'm using gb
[01:46] <kate_r> 'server form united kingdom'
[01:47] <stimoceiver> so now when i run update manager it asks me if i want to do a partial upgrade... i try but it always fails
[01:47] <ErKa> im using VGA ATI HD 5500 Series
[01:47] <blackshirt> kate_r, i mean, what release are you using ? Quantal ?
[01:47] <kate_r> blackshirt, it's Precise
[01:48] <rajmahendra> any secondlife player here who play on ubuntu ?
[01:48] <ErKa> who can solve my problem :D ??
[01:48]  * rootpt gone
[01:49] <blackshirt> kate_r, if you are not sure, just check on your repos  link to ensure what version the repository have....especially under pool subdir
[01:50] <kate_r> blackshirt, it uses http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ but how do i see if ubuntu0.3 is under it?
[01:50] <ErKa> hello any body can help my problem..
[01:51] <Flynsarmy> when i do an ethtool p5p1 it says Cannot get wake-on-lan settings: Operation not permitted. if i do sudo ethtool p5p1 it says: Supports Wake-on: pumbg Wake-on: g however when i shut the machine down the ethernet light isn't on and if i send a magic packet to the machine it doesn't wake up. any ideas? WOL is enabled in the BIOS
[01:51] <blackshirt> kate_r, look under pool drr
[01:51] <blackshirt> erka, what is your problem?
[01:52] <brady> lets say i installed ubuntu 12.10  32 bit, and lived in it a bit, and i want to switch to 64 bit, and i want to migrate, hopefully not losing like, all the programs i installed, configured , installed packages, etc.. is there any way to migrate?
[01:52] <ErKa> my problem is why my vga error when im booting with ubuntu. so im can't install ubuntu at my PC.
[01:52] <kate_r> blackshirt, hmm i can't seem to find libkrb under pool/main/libk
[01:53] <ErKa> blackshirt my problem is why my vga error when im booting with ubuntu. so im can't install ubuntu at my PC.
[01:55] <ErKa> blackshirt, im using VGA ATI HD 5500 Series, and why im can install ubuntu. when im booting with ubuntu my screen error and PC being restart.
[01:55] <blackshirt> erka, trying some options to disable acpi
[01:56] <blackshirt> or use non graphical installer ...
[01:56] <ErKa> okay i will try
[01:56] <blackshirt> try alternate version of ubuntu installer
[01:56] <kate_r> blackshirt, do you know which repo i should have in order to get ubuntu0.3?
[01:56] <lucido> I'm using an nvidi gpu with the propriatary drivers, how can I set the refresh rate for my CRT, nvidi-settings only allows 60Hz
[01:57] <bjrohan> I am having issues converting an ffmpeg ogv file to MPEG-4 I get the following error message (using ffWIN) http://paste.ubuntu.com/1311252/
[01:58] <meyou> is it common for realtek 8168 onboard lan to not work w/ livecd's
[01:58] <meyou> found a few topics about it on google but not finding resolution
[01:59] <meyou> when i boot 8.10 livecd it finds it but says it's disconnected and i can't make it connect. looks like there's a better driver from realtek but i dunno how to get it into my iso/livecd
[01:59] <kate_r> blackshirt, i've fixed it. i needed the security update.
[02:03] <dfgas-cr48> anyone know how to get a constant readout of a log file?
[02:06] <adren> hello Ubuntu :D
[02:10] <Cong> !ask adren
[02:10] <Cong> !ask >adren
[02:11] <wilee-nilee> meyou, So what is the 8.10 live cd for here, the server is still running but the regular install is end of life
[02:12] <lahwran> how do I install g77 on ubuntu 12.04?
[02:15] <Cong> in the new version of rhythbox can files be opened by clicking the file from the file manager? I'm correctly running on rhythbox 0.12.8.
[02:15] <Cong> it doesn't work like that in this version.
[02:17] <DaemonicApathy> lahwran: Terminal - "sudo deb http://hu.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy universe ; sudo deb http://hu.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-updates universe ; sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install g77 blcr-dkms: blcr-util: dkms: fakeroot: libcr0: libibverbs-dev: openmpi-common:" without quotes.
[02:17] <Cong> rhythmbox doesn't play files unless they are in the library.
[02:17] <lahwran> DaemonicApathy: so less recipe-like - you're just saying "use the hardy package"
[02:18] <DaemonicApathy> Sorry, yeah. :-)
[02:18] <lahwran> I was going to just download the g77 package manually ... based on the dependency error I'm getting I think I'll do it your way :p
[02:19] <macbeth_> join #reddit-philadelphia
[02:19] <lahwran> gesundheit
[02:25] <trism> dfgas-cr48: in a terminal? like: tail -f /var/log/somelog; ?
[02:27] <lahwran> okay, forget this, I'm installing ubuntu 8.04
[02:27] <lahwran> (this software is ancient...)
[02:28] <lahwran> are the ubuntu 8.04 repositories still live? that is, can I access them from ubuntu 8.04 or am I going to have to edit stuff to get to them
[02:29] <Lat> wanna be a tumb raider?
[02:29] <lahwran> because I'm upgrading to ubuntu 8.04 from centos 4.3, whose repositories are dead now :p
[02:30] <sdollins> lahwran.
[02:30] <sdollins> You know me o:
[02:30] <bazhang> !ot | sdollins
[02:30] <bazhang> lahwran, 8.04 is eol desktop, early next year eol for server
[02:30] <lahwran> sdollins: see you in #-offtopic
[02:31] <lahwran> bazhang: yes, I need it because of its age
[02:31] <lahwran> bazhang: I want to compile something that hasn't been updated in three years
[02:31] <bazhang> lahwran, then be prepared to upgrade early next year
[02:31] <lahwran> bazhang: no, I plan to throw it out completely within a month :p
[02:31] <lahwran> this is going to be a one-use system
[02:31] <lahwran> well, one use install.
[02:31] <Lat> Okay, ladies and gentlemen. I'm feeling adventure right now. I just installed Quetzal on VirtualBox. What's the recommended way to install the Guest Additions?
[02:32] <lahwran> surely the same as normal? it's in the virtualbox menus
[02:32] <lahwran> Lat: that's not authoritative, by the way; that'd just be the thing I'd try first
[02:34] <Lat> Oh, k, let's put the guest additions situation in hold for right now. "Software Updater just poped out. Is this a Front end for apt-get upgrade?
[02:34] <Lat> Can I use this and later on use apt?
[02:35] <sdollins> yes yes
[02:35] <Lat> reason I'm asking because I know that is not a good idea to use, let's say, aptitude, then apt back and front
[02:39] <przemek_> hi
[02:39] <przemek_> im running ubuntu 12.04 inside virtualbox that is running on osx 10.8
[02:39] <Lat> heh
[02:40]  * Lat high fices przemek_ 
[02:40] <przemek_> i'm trying to get the isight camera to work inside my vm (inside ubuntu)
[02:40] <Lat> s fices fives
[02:40] <przemek_> has anyone else gotten the isight camera to work inside ubuntu
[02:41] <przemek_> i followed the firmwire-isight-tools toturial that loads the apple firmwrae inside of ubuntu
[02:41] <przemek_> but the camera fails to show up in /dev/video01 on reboot
[02:41] <przemek_> however, when I run the lsusb command the isight camera does show up in the list
[02:41] <Lat> did you try /etc/init.d/udev restart ?
[02:42] <johnjacobjingerh> why doesnt the "apply permissions to enclosed files" in the permissions tab work?
[02:42] <johnjacobjingerh> I click it and it doesnt apply the permissions to the enclosed files
[02:42] <johnjacobjingerh> :-(
[02:42] <przemek_> ill try that now; i figured that would have run when I rebooted
[02:42] <OerHeks> you need isight-firmware-tools, i think, maybe this haowto is only for native ubuntu on mac > http://turanct.wordpress.com/2010/06/11/use-your-macs-isight-on-ubuntu/
[02:43] <przemek_> ya those are the exact instructions i followed
[02:44] <przemek_> ya maybe it is only for ubuntu native on mac
[02:44] <przemek_> but not inside a vm
[02:44] <przemek_> :-(
[02:44] <caaakeeey> hey, im trying to run 12.10 in virtual box on w8, but the window manager crashes, and all i see is a blank background, i can use the terminals fine... what's the issue and how do i fix it?
[02:44] <przemek_> actually, not true in that tutorial it says it should work for native ubuntu and also inside a VM
[02:45] <przemek_> however; that blog is from 2 years ago...
[02:46] <OerHeks> it looks simular to other isight blogs/solutions
[02:46] <przemek_> ya and I haven't seen anything newer so I figured it was one of those things that still works today
[02:46] <przemek_> and maybe I was doing something wrong
[02:46] <Lat> huhhh???? "The computer needs to restart to finish installing updates" ? I thought I was using Linux, and not Windows. I only see compiz upgraded. Shouldn't just restarting X be enough? or what is ubuntu-release-upgrader? is that the reason why it as to reboot?
[02:47] <blackshirt> lat, no needed
[02:47] <OerHeks> If ubuntu asks to reboot: reboot.
[02:47] <Lat> to restart, right? then how do I close that dialog? there's no close button, or "reboot later"
[02:48] <blackshirt> lat, stupid notification from update manager, very obssurtive
[02:48] <Lat> so I guess I should just ignore it and restart X?
[02:49] <OerHeks> No.
[02:49] <Lat> hi, OerHeks. do you mind elaborating why?
[02:50] <blackshirt> even kernel,when patching with ksplice, not needed reboot :d
[02:50] <OerHeks> Lat, no, i am not goint to discuss with you, follow up notifications, or don't, but then don't bother me.,
[02:51] <OerHeks> Do you really think development wants you to reboot without reason?
[02:52] <Lat> Wouldn't developers want their users to think and understand why?
[02:52] <bazhang> Lat did you have an actual support question?
[02:53] <przemek_> so I guess apart from those 2 year old blogs there isn't any new information that anyone here is aware of?
[02:53] <Lat> Ok, you guys win. I will upgrade right now. then try to install the virtual guest additions. If I get stuck I'll come back to you
[02:54] <bazhang> Lat, wait, this is in a VM?
[02:54] <Lat> yes, sir
[02:54] <Lat> or ma'am
[02:54] <bazhang> Lat, well restarting is rather moot in that case
[02:56] <c4ptotc> hello
[02:56] <caaakeeey> any ideas?
[02:56] <bazhang> caaakeeey, about what
[02:56] <kunji> bazhang: why would restarting a VM be moot?  The hardware is virtual, but I don't see why that would make the reasons for a reboot any less valid, no?
[02:56] <c4ptotc> I have this problem in ubuntu 12.04             for some reason when i watch youtube videos with flash they , when they start the play in fast forward..
[02:56] <c4ptotc> i have nvidia 304.60 installed
[02:57] <caaakeeey> bazhang,  i have no window manager when running 12.10 on a vm on windows, all i see is a blank desktop background when i boot it up
[02:57] <bazhang> kunji, the kernel modules I would imagine. I'm not sure why he does not want to simply restart the VM (which is rather what a "reboot" is here)
[02:58] <bazhang> caaakeeey, vbox? vmware? which
[02:58] <Lat> bazhang, I haven't installed virtualbox-guest-source, that was just a normal upgrade
[02:58] <caaakeeey> bazhang, virtualbox
[02:59] <bazhang> caaakeeey, got all the various guest-additions etc packages installed? that sounds likely the culprit
[02:59] <kunji> bazhang: Hmm, I still think the reboot is warranted for the VM.  Yeah, not sure what the objection is, some people run VMs as servers though, it could be running some service to end users (theoretically, I have no idea what his situation is).
[02:59] <caaakeeey> bazhang, i think so, i installed it, rebooted, and if i try to install it again, it gives me an erro rabout something already being mounted, but im not entirely sure
[03:00] <caaakeeey> do you think installing an alternative would fix it?
[03:00] <bazhang> kunji, I've not been following his issue to be of much use, just got on my self
[03:00] <kunji> bazhang: it's all good ^_^
[03:00] <bazhang> caaakeeey, installing an alternative? could you clarify please?
[03:01] <Lat> I was just wondering why a total boot was necessary, and not just restart services
[03:01] <caaakeeey> bazhang, a different window manager like kubuntu etx
[03:01] <caaakeeey> etc
[03:01] <johnjacobjingerh> how come I can't "make links" to some directories?
[03:01] <johnjacobjingerh> i want to create a shortcut on my destkop to /var/www and the option isnt selectable for that directory
[03:02] <bazhang> johnjacobjingerh, thats outside your home right?
[03:02] <caaakeeey> bazhang, im just using integrated gfraphics right now, could that be the issue? (got a gpu coming)
[03:02] <johnjacobjingerh> yea bazhang
[03:02] <kunji> johnjacobjingerh: It's because regular users aren't supposed to have access to those directories.  Personally I wouldn't mess with the permission on them.
[03:03] <johnjacobjingerh> bleh screw that i'll just sym link it
[03:03] <bazhang> caaakeeey, seriously doubt that, the vm uses a virtual gpu afaik and not the hardware. there's also #vbox if you dont get any answers here
[03:03] <johnjacobjingerh> annoying
[03:03] <kunji> johnjacobjingerh: Well, securit or convenience, pick one :P
[03:03] <caaakeeey> bazhang, thanks, im trying kde, if that doesn't fix it then ill head over there
[03:03] <kunji> *security
[03:03] <johnjacobjingerh> convenience
[03:03] <kunji> np
[03:03] <johnjacobjingerh> for this thing
[03:03] <johnjacobjingerh> it's mythtv
[03:04] <FatsDT> Sometimes my laptop doesn't resume from suspend.  How do I debug this?
[03:04] <kunji> johnjacobjingerh: ah, I would probably do the same then.
[03:04] <johnjacobjingerh> thanks just did
[03:05] <karthick1987> Is it possible to find usb charging devices using udev rules ???
[03:05] <johnjacobjingerh> so i assume there is no way  to show the filesystem drive and my partitions on desktop without symlinking them too
[03:06] <MiningMarsh> Anyone know why s2disk says I don't have enough memory to hibernate on my swap, when my ram is 2gb, and 0 bytes of my 8gb swap partition has been used?
[03:07] <kunji> Hmm, well, I did my clean install to 12.10 today.  I have a bit of a bug with my touchscreen stops taking input.  It still shows the mouse moving, but nothing responds to clicks, and when I start using the touchpad again, the pointer is actually still at the location it was when Ubuntu stopped responding to the clicks.  I am using a Lenovo ideapad S10-3t.  I'm also getting a few more random style crashes, but I always seem to get some of th
[03:08] <FatsDT> MiningMarsh: Does your swap partition ever get used, or is it always at 0?   Does it show up in 'cat /proc/swap'?
[03:08] <simplew> can anyone tell how to mirror webcam imagem in cheese?
[03:09] <FatsDT> er 'cat /proc/swaps'
[03:10] <MiningMarsh> FatsDT: It is used, but I have been testing it while it has been freshly mounted (to make sure all the space is free). It funtions as swap fine. I have no /proc/swap
[03:11] <MiningMarsh> FatsDT: woops. It shows up in /proc/swaps
[03:19] <omerta> what do i need to install after a base install to get a minimal ubuntu desktop?
[03:20] <omerta> apt-get install --no-install-recommends xorg xserver-xorg-video-radeon ubuntu-desktop alsa-utils
[03:20] <omerta> is this correct?
[03:24] <criqut> hello
[03:28] <tonyyarusso> omerta: depends on your definition of minimal, but that should work.  You probably don't even need the rest of that - just --no-install-recommends ubuntu-desktop should have the same effect.
[03:29] <omerta> tonyyarusso, ok thanks
[03:30] <omerta> does --no-install-recommends work recursively?
[03:32] <tonyyarusso> omerta: yes
[03:32] <omerta> thanks
[03:35] <grod> Hey crew. Anyone free to chat about  ab upgrade issue I have when going from 12.04 to 12.10?
[03:48] <Quintazill> What is the difference between gnome and gnome-shell? (apt-get install)
[03:50] <rajmahendra> How can i remove More Suggestion from my dash in 12.10
[03:51] <Lat> it seems like gnome will install gnome-shell with extras
[03:52] <wilee-nilee> !gnome
[03:52] <daradydai> coud somebody tell me please the name of console browser that can I find in out repository-s (ubuntu 12.04)
[03:53] <wastrel> daradydai: w3m, or elinks
[03:53] <aarossig> Is there currently a way to easily disable composition in Unity? I'm running 12.10.
[03:53] <daradydai> wastrel: 10x :)
[03:54] <Quintazill> Lat; surely does. Thanks.
[03:54] <Lat> what's the equivalent of kdiff3 in gnome?
[03:54] <Lat> welcome
[03:54] <aarossig> Recording Minecraft using GLC is 200% faster when composition is disabled.. but that entails running metacity --replace and breaking unity.
[03:54] <zerowaitstate> rajmahendra: settings->privacy maybe?
[03:55] <wastrel> no compiz, no unity afaik in 12.10
[03:55] <aarossig> I guess I'll use LXDE for my recording sessions then
[03:55] <wastrel> should be interesting with the valve/steam thing
[03:56] <aarossig> wastrel: it really does enforce a performance hit
[03:56] <aarossig> 9800GT tends lag in Minecraft with composition enabled and recording using GLC
[03:56] <wastrel> aarossig: tell me about it, my card there's apparently serious performance bugs in the driver or something
[03:56] <wastrel> unity is v. slow and crashy on my system
[03:56] <Quintazill> But this doesn't seem to get included by installing gnome-shell-extensions. https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/15/alternatetab/ , - the fact that I have used 20 minutes trying to enable such a ultra basic feature is kinda disturbing.
[03:56] <wastrel> i get about 5-10 fps on minecraft
[03:56] <wastrel> with unity
[03:57] <aarossig> wastrel: good to know I'm not alonge
[03:57] <aarossig> alone*
[03:57] <Lat> hmm, it seems to be meld, but it installs libgnome2 which I thought it was already there
[03:59] <bjrohan>  Hi there. i am trying to convert an ogv file to mov using ffwin (gui for ffmpeg) and I get the following errors, how do I remedy this I am running Ubuntu 12.10: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1311394/
[03:59] <bjrohan> Any help appreciated
[04:00] <bjrohan> I have libx264-123 installed
[04:01] <ryan1> hi does anyone know how to get to the non-gui installer for ubuntu?
[04:02] <KM0201> ryan1: the text installer you mean>
[04:02] <KM0201> if so, that's just th ealternate install cd
[04:03] <ryan1> KM020: yep. :) oh, there's another cd for it? i just downloaded the regular default iso
[04:03] <KM0201> no, there's a different iso
[04:03] <KM0201> !alternate
[04:03] <KM0201> hmm, maybe not.
[04:03] <KM0201> lol
[04:04] <KM0201> !livecd
[04:06] <KM0201> i guess you could use the mini iso, or install the ubuntu desktop on top of ubuntu server... but... that's kinda sad they discontinued the alt cd.
[04:06] <WeThePeople> hi
[04:16] <ejo> This is pretty sad that dejadup (Ubuntu's pre-installed backup app) has been failing with error_code 500 and no "oops" dialog for a year for a lot of people and there's barely any action on the bug thread
[04:17] <dmitry> Ok, quick question...
[04:17] <ejo> Sorry, I hate to just pop in and merely complain (though I just did exactly that) so I'll leave it at that one line!
[04:21] <OerHeks> ejo, this old bugreport suggests making a new folder to backup to, it is just a workaround > https://bugs.launchpad.net/deja-dup/+bug/882699
[04:22] <ejo> OerHeks: yes, and I'm with the others who say you have to start a new folder every few days to keep it working.  It's crazy.
[04:22] <Dragonster82> I've got a problem with my microphone settings, it keeps resetting everytime I reboot. Any help?
[04:23] <unknown766> so whats the topic here ._.
[04:24] <unknown766> :/
[04:26] <unknown766> whats the differnce between apt-get and aptitude? .-.
[04:26] <OerHeks> aptitude is depreciated with 64 bit systems, unknown766
[04:27] <OerHeks> !aptitude
[04:27] <scroduck> i need to setup ftp. vsftpd or proftpd or pureftpd ?
[04:27] <Guest7272> who uses ftp?
[04:28] <unknown766> o i see ._.
[04:28] <scroduck> wordpress i think
[04:28] <scroduck> or maybe how to setup sftp ? although i read somewhere ftp can be installed with something called tls to make it secure
[04:30] <Guest7272> i remember using ftp as a child
[04:30] <scroduck> you no child anymore?
[04:31] <Guest7272> thirty dos
[04:31] <scroduck> hm
[04:31] <scroduck> what do you use now?
[04:32] <Guest7272> ssh, scp
[04:32] <insecticide> any way to put music on my iphone running ubuntu 10.04 ?
[04:32] <scroduck> i do use scp
[04:32] <Guest7272> we used ftp for mad 0-day warez
[04:32] <scroduck> but wordpress wants ftp
[04:32] <Guest7272> o
[04:36] <spacebarbarian> how do i restart the network service ?
[04:37] <WeThePeople> restart..
[04:37] <unknown766> XD
[04:37] <OerHeks> sudo service networking restart
[04:40] <unknown766> :/
[04:40] <confuzled> can anyone help me find the absolute path to my NAS
[04:40] <confuzled> ~/.gvfs/storage on diskstation/Newsgroups is what term says
[04:40] <confuzled> and smb://diskstation/storage/Newsgroups
[04:41] <confuzled> is what nautilus says
[04:41] <confuzled> (well the path to my newsgroups folder is what imreally looking for)
[04:45] <confuzled> anyone?
[04:45] <ry> has anyone tried to get lm-sensors working with the DQ45EK? (coretemp is the only module/sensor i've been able to get working so far -- no fan rpms or anything along those lines)
[04:46] <ry> not sure how to manually load modules, or if this is the appropriate place for hardware/software/sensor related questions on ubuntu 12.04
[04:46] <Danon> i guess so
[04:47] <ry> i stumbled across a russian developer who created a module for lm-sensors to work on the Q45 (and other similar generation intel mobos/chipsets) but I have no idea how to load it
[04:48] <Lat> confuzled, does  " mount|grep storage   "  say anything?
[04:48] <confuzled> one sec
[04:49] <confuzled> no
[04:49] <confuzled> btw thats called pipe right (|)
[04:49] <confuzled> linux newbie
[04:49] <Lat> "  |  "    is called pipe, yes
[04:50] <confuzled> ballin
[04:50] <Danon> and this is -  tack right?
[04:50] <confuzled> im trying to learn
[04:50] <Lat> what are you trying to accomplish?
[04:50] <confuzled> thats what i call it (military)
[04:50] <confuzled> i want to configure sabnzbd to use my nas as the download and temp dir
[04:51] <confuzled> Danon: yes that is tack and we call / hack
[04:51] <Lat> Danon, beats me. I just called dash, c:
[04:52] <Lat> idk what's sabnzdb
[04:52] <Danon> all i know is the ubuntu side bar might get annoying sometimes but ubuntu is basicly THE linux distro right
[04:52] <confuzled> its a newsreader
[04:52] <confuzled> like newsleecher, grabit and others
[04:52] <Danon> i tryed fedora and the software center kept lagging
[04:53] <confuzled> its the most commonly installed, i would assume mint is third (for end user that is not counting server)
[04:53] <Lat> confuzled, then I'd suggest you to mount the NAS. Does the NAS suppost nfs?
[04:53] <confuzled> inthe new version you can move the side bar to the bottom right
[04:53] <confuzled> i assume so, its a synology 1512+ (big ballin)
[04:54] <Lat> synology, there's a good chance that it supports nfs
[04:54] <confuzled> ~/.gvfs/storage on diskstation/newsgroups what is this
[04:54] <Lat> i dunno
[04:54] <confuzled> that is what pops when i open the dir i want in terminal
[04:54] <Danon> I actually have a NAS on my router its a usb plug in i got a 500g hooked up to it
[04:54] <Danon> it shows up in windows and linux but i cant map it in linux
[04:55] <confuzled> when i cd to that dir, i can ls and find my files
[04:55] <confuzled> so i know it routes taht way
[04:55] <Danon> is it because windows is samba and linux is nfs?
[04:55] <Lat> Danon correct
[04:55] <confuzled> but when copy the dir path in nautilus it shows as smb://
[04:55] <confuzled> Danon: my nas shows in both windows and linux
[04:56] <Danon> but i thought ubuntu came with samba support?
[04:56] <Lat> oh, so if you do ls ~/.gvfs/storage  you see the files?
[04:56] <confuzled> yes
[04:56] <confuzled> so the absoulte path would be /home/dougshell/.gvfs
[04:56] <Lat> I would assume so
[04:56] <confuzled> let me try that
[04:58] <confuzled> now sab isnt loading....let me reboot i just set it up to run as service, maybe its a confilix.  brb 3 min
[05:00] <byuu> Hi all. So on 12.10, lspci -v shows that I have snd-hda-intel loaded in as a module; but aplay -l  only shows the HDMI audio output of my sound card. PulseAudio Volume Control -> Output Devices similarly doesn't show my HDA onboard sound ... any ideas? :/
[05:02] <spacebarbarian> having a really weird DNS issue, I can ping the dns server 8.8.8.8, and its in my resolv.conf, but i cant resolve and hostnames, did 'dig @8.8.8.8 +trace google.com' and it just says connection timed out
[05:02] <Danon> can you install kubuntu over ubuntu with out corrupting data?
[05:02] <Lat> Danon, do you just want KDE?
[05:03] <Danon> yeah
[05:03] <Danon> and is there a program that is windows and linux cross platform that will let me use on keyboard and mouse on 2 computers
[05:03] <Danon> like my desktop and laptop
[05:04] <byuu> Found a workaround using a USB X-fi, guess that will do for now
[05:05] <Lat> quick and dirty google search, Danon, but you want this http://www.simsupply.com/p-100131-two-port-kvm-usb-switch-waudio-built-in-cables-8-ft.aspx?CAWELAID=1303503494&catargetid=1438294713&cagpspn=pla&gclid=CO7h2Oz3orMCFQ4EnQodSnsABQ
[05:05] <Lat> Danon: http://www.simsupply.com/p-100131-two-port-kvm-usb-switch-waudio-built-in-cables-8-ft.aspx?CAWELAID=1303503494&catargetid=1438294713&cagpspn=pla&gclid=CO7h2Oz3orMCFQ4EnQodSnsABQ is what I've used
[05:05] <Lat> errr
[05:05] <Lat> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817107417
[05:05] <FloodBot1> Lat: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:06] <Hotarudraconis> Hiyas
[05:09] <bananaboydean> Anyone know anything about issues with 12.10 and mac audio not working after a while
[05:09] <Lat> Danon, I'd install kde-plasma-desktop
[05:09] <Lat> bananaboydean, is that a usb audio card?
[05:10] <bananaboydean> Lat, No macbook 4,1
[05:10] <bananaboydean> Lat, built in audio
[05:10] <Lat> got it, then idk c:
[05:10] <Danon> meh i will just dual drive
[05:10] <Danon> i got laptop hard drives so ill have ubuntu on one and kubuntu on the other
[05:11] <Danon> drive swaping dont take long anyway
[05:11] <Lat> you know you can switch between gnome and kde in the login screen, right?
[05:12] <svspl> can you recommend some good GUI tool for converting video files? eg. flv to avi
[05:12] <TheWalkingTux> hello
[05:12] <TheWalkingTux> :)
[05:12] <TheWalkingTux> good night
[05:12] <Hotarudraconis> trying to figure out what to do next. I have found out I have Bus 001 Device 004: ID 0408:3001 Quanta Computer, Inc. Optical Touch Screen on my computer, and would like to use the touch screen on my Ubuntu 12.10. Not really sure where to start, but I do think it is supported. (not sure how to really check or not.) I am very new to linux and I am not sure what I am doing.
[05:12] <Danon> well yeah but i forgot how lol
[05:13] <snoop> Hi, i am running for the first time ubuntu12.10 64bit on a gateway NV59c laptop with intel chips. and it is slower than i can remember with windows any ideas, its a 2.3 quad i3, 4gb ram, 320hdd, and 128 hd intel graphics... please help its really slow opening i.e. (firefox, notepad, task app, pretty much anything) takes in excess of 10-14 seconds to open and longer for that software center.
[05:14] <Aussie_Matt> Hi all, can anyone help me please? I have a raid array, dmraid is installed, it can see my array, but i need to run "dmraid -ay" after every boot to activate the array. Can some one help me automate this please?
[05:14] <TheWalkingTux> does ubuntu have any problem with the wifi signal strenght?
[05:14] <TheWalkingTux> damn wifi signal broke down again
[05:14] <bananaboydean> Anyone know anything about issues with 12.10 and macbook 4,1 audio not working after a while
[05:16] <storm90hou> well
[05:16] <suttiwit> does ubuntu 12.10 really ships this kernel version by default: 3.5.0-17-generic?
[05:16] <Hotarudraconis> hi
[05:16] <TheWalkingTux> bananaboydean, do you messed with the driver or something?
[05:17] <bananaboydean> TheWalkingTux, no sir it works for the first hour or so then stops
[05:17] <xangua> !info linux | suttiwit
[05:18] <TheWalkingTux> do you have any other SO installed?
[05:18] <bananaboydean> SO?
[05:18] <Danon> OS? lol
[05:19] <bananaboydean> significant others installed?
[05:20] <TheWalkingTux> lol sorry, shitty  wifi signal is driving me crazy
[05:20] <TheWalkingTux> i meant operational systems
[05:20] <TheWalkingTux> rofl
[05:20] <Danon> i had that issue with backtrack5 on my toshibe laptop
[05:20] <bananaboydean> haha yeah just OSX lion
[05:21] <Danon> everytime i would launch wicd it would freeze the whole laptop up
[05:21] <Danon> i hate companys who make shitty hardware lol
[05:22] <celthunder> Danon: then don't buy that shitty hardware
[05:22] <Danon> like jmicron for instance ive always had trouble with the pci-e sata controller and windows 7
[05:22] <celthunder> that's the easiest solution..if nobody buys it they go out of business
[05:22] <Ox0000> Hi, I just upgraded to Kubuntu 12.10 form 12.04, and I am having some problems with my display. Sounds like the graphics driver is not properly installed. Any ideas?
[05:23] <TheWalkingTux> id search your problem but my signal keeps disconnecting every few minutes -.- cant do shit with this problem
[05:23] <andromedas> lspci?
[05:25] <J_> HEY ALL
[05:26] <Danon> does anybody know of any good 3rd party software sites for linux software?
[05:26] <Aussie_Matt> anyone any good with mkinitrd?
[05:26] <J_> man im figurin it out my self
[05:27] <J_> boy this bites
[05:29] <ntong> I need some help with my display
[05:29] <J_> whats up with it?
[05:30] <ix_> why can't you install new versions of software in Ubuntu, or any other Linux distro?
[05:30] <J_> whats up with ur display?
[05:30] <Izinucs> ix_: you can.. what are you looking for?
[05:30] <ntong> I am not sure why eveytime I call up a software then it will go to right hand side screen not the left hand side
[05:31] <J_> wierd
[05:31] <Izinucs> ntong: you mean the text of the program?
[05:31] <ix_> Izinucs, that's not quite true, if you try to install gimp 2.8 on ubuntu 10.04, I'm pretty sure it will not work
[05:31] <J_> i finally got my linux workin lol
[05:31] <ntong> program and also message from ubuntu
[05:31] <J_> about time
[05:31] <ix_> it's just an example, but I want to know why
[05:31] <J_> 10.04 is old u need to update it
[05:32] <ntong> left hand side is my PC screen VGA, right hand side is my TV with HDMI connection
[05:32] <J_> use 12.04 that works lot better
[05:32] <Danon> and if you dont like unity like i dont install kde plasma
[05:32] <J_> never tried
[05:33] <J_> saybayon is interesting too
[05:33] <J_> ive used both
[05:33] <Ox0000> Here's the lspci: http://pastebin.com/fDe4Dg5U
[05:33] <Izinucs> ix_: you have a couple of ways.  First is to compile it yourself making a .deb to install or google for "gimp PPA".  PPA's are unsupported program space where someone else has compiled the program for specific versions of ubuntu.. the ppa is installed as part of your package manager and the program(s) in it are then available through the normal package manager.
[05:33] <Izinucs> ntong: ah..dual screen.. what video card do you have?
[05:33] <ntong> can anyone help
[05:33] <J_> boring lol
[05:34] <intx> I spent 24 hours testing ram... turns out it's a problem with memtest. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/memtest86+/+bug/1071209 if anyone has the same issue.
[05:34] <ntong> ??
[05:34] <Aarat> Any idea how can i port ubuntu to my raspberry pi ??
[05:34] <Aarat> any arm version available?
[05:35] <svspl> why not mkinitramfs?
[05:35] <xangua> ix_: because 10.04 is an ond distro with old libraries
[05:40] <Danon> is using the kde shell the same as kubuntu?
[05:41] <suttiwit> why not kernel version 3.6?
[05:41] <suttiwit> :(
[05:41] <Izinucs> Danon: you mean loading kde and switching to it on boot?  not sure but it probably doesn't load all the associated software unless you install kubuntu-desktop from inside ubuntu.. then you have the best of both worlds.
[05:43] <Danon> ahh
[05:43] <rajmahendra> i want to remove the More Suggestions buying options from my dash how to remove it ?
[05:43] <Danon> i just found out you can uninstall different guis
[05:44] <Danon> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekubuntu
[05:45] <Izinucs> Danon: you can.. google pure kde or pure gnome or unity
[05:45] <Izinucs> !purekde
[05:46] <Izinucs> !pure
[05:53] <Cracked_Lucidity> so how do i run a bin file?
[05:53] <Cracked_Lucidity> i feel stupid :I
[05:53] <wols>  depends on the .bin file
[05:54] <wols> what file is it?
[05:54] <Cracked_Lucidity> i installed superbrothers: sword and sorcery EP
[05:58] <Cracked_Lucidity> i bought in a humble bundle awhile ago and never really got around to playing it on the desktop
[05:59] <wols> Cracked_Lucidity: use "sh <binfile>". might need to use sudo but try without at first
[06:01] <Cracked_Lucidity> do i need a file path with that?
[06:01] <wols> if you are not inside the directory where the file is: yes
[06:08] <Cracked_Lucidity> i suppose i should note i am using the GUI
[06:09] <Oz__> Morning folks. Any chance I could possibly bother you with some newbie stuff?
[06:09] <JasonC_> Can you install windows 8 without deleting my old partitions? (Windows 7 and Ubuntu 12.04)
[06:10] <wols> JasonC_: create a new partition, install it there
[06:11] <JasonC_> Wols, thanks for replying!
[06:11] <JasonC_> but
[06:11] <Oz__> I seem to only have any luck when I set nomodeset and nolapic. I've tried both open source and proprietary drivers for my ATI Radeon 5770. No dice.
[06:11] <Oz__> Loads just fine.
[06:12] <JasonC_> i dont know what to do, could you give more detailed instrcutions?
[06:12] <Oz__> Then runs so slow I can't do... pretty much anything.
[06:12] <wols> JasonC_: use gparted to free some spaec on your disk
[06:12] <JasonC_> @wols i have already done that :P so what do i do now?
[06:12] <Cracked_Lucidity> >o> i rather like gparted
[06:12] <wols> Oz__: what happens when you don't use nomodeset?
[06:13] <Cracked_Lucidity> i had swissknife kill a disk once though
[06:13] <Cracked_Lucidity> :l
[06:13] <wols> JasonC_: you install. and in the installer tell it to use the free space. but this is not a #ubuntu question, is it?
[06:13] <wols> JasonC_: just don't forget to reinstall grub2 afterwards so all show up in your boot menu
[06:15] <imneveral0ne> hello
[06:15] <JasonC_> oh ok, thanks, thats the missing step i needed :P, how do i reinstall it though? :p
[06:15] <Oz__> I've tried various video card drivers, even adjusting swappiness.
[06:15] <imneveral0ne> is there a program, that will let me make a bootable flash drive out of a windows 7 iso?
[06:15] <imneveral0ne> I tried unetbootin
[06:16] <imneveral0ne> but it wont let me make one on a ntfs flash drive
[06:16] <Oz__> Nada.
[06:16] <Oz__> It's a bit sluggish in nomodeset, but useable.
[06:16] <Oz__> Wols, Everything loads in at 1080p and whatnot, but Unity takes ages to fully load in. And even once it has, nothing is responsive.
[06:16] <wols> JasonC_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#Reinstalling_GRUB_2
[06:16] <imneveral0ne> or like a guide or something :-\
[06:17] <imneveral0ne> all I can find are ways to make linux one's on windows 7
[06:17] <wols> imneveral0ne: this is a ubuntu question how?
[06:17] <imneveral0ne> and not the other way around lol
[06:17] <imneveral0ne> well, I'm using ubuntu to do it
[06:17] <wols> it's still no ubuntu question, sorry
[06:17] <imneveral0ne> how is it not? I'm trying to use ubuntu to do it
[06:17] <JasonC_> thanks wols, one day i may be able to answer questions instead of asking them, thanks for replying :)
[06:17] <imneveral0ne> seems ubuntu related to me
[06:18] <imneveral0ne> since I'm trying to use an ubuntu program to do it
[06:18] <wols> imneveral0ne: such a thing does not exist. ask MSFT for support with their OS
[06:18] <imneveral0ne> well if I was doing it in windows, I believe they could help me
[06:21] <Oz__> Hm...
[06:24] <imneveral0ne> http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/tool-to-create-windows-usb-install.html
[06:24] <imneveral0ne> thanks homies ^_^
[06:26] <Flynsarmy> I'm following teh instructions here http://askubuntu.com/a/65300/101547 but wen I do a dkms build -m r8168 -v 8.032.00 I get the following: http://pastebin.com/k89p8BsX it's infuriating because i can cd to  /var/lib/dkms/r8168/8.032.00/build and run the command and it works fine. why the hell is dkms failing at it?
[06:28] <sbarcteam> hi.
[06:28] <Lat> o/
[06:28] <wols> Flynsarmy: create a rule for "clean"
[06:28] <wols> could probably be a empty one too
[06:31] <Flynsarmy> wols: it already exists. cat /var/lib/dkms/r8168/8.032.00/build/Makefile http://pastebin.com/Av80E3Zw and cat /var/lib/dkms/r8168/8.032.00/build/src/Maefile http://pastebin.com/p87Pk2CU as I said in my last message, when I perform the make -C command myself it works fine. it's just dkms screwing it up
[06:44] <guang_> How to copy things of clipboard to gvim buffer?
[06:45] <sbarcteam> guang_: "+y
[06:47] <guang_> sbarcteam:I mean clipboard -> gvim,not gvim ->clipboard.."+y seems to does not work
[06:49] <alusion> What do you think of mdm [utilities for single-host parallel shell scripting ?
[06:49] <alusion> Like.. what can you do with that exactly?
[06:50] <guang_> shift + insert
[06:54] <sbarcteam> guang_: if you're using gvim, its menus have the shortcuts written besides the names.
[06:54] <sbarcteam> in "Edit" menu you have copy, paste, etc. shortcuts.
[06:54] <sbarcteam> I might have been mistaken with the shortcut.
[06:54] <sbarcteam> I know how to work with copy/paste from within vim, for sure.
[06:54] <sbarcteam> and pasting in gvim is easy - with middle mouse  click.
[06:56] <foobArrr> I have problems with distorted sound and echo with vlc. Often sound is only distorted for the first few seconds or a minute of a file, then sound is normal. When I skip to the next song/video, sound is distorted again. Also volume levels are strange: some videos are loud, some are quiet, in mplayer they have similar volume. This started a few weeks ago on 12.04 and is still present in 12.10.
[06:57] <sbarcteam> foobArrr: are you on a recent computer or a very old ?
[06:57] <L3top> akis is it possible there is a password prompt behind a window that you missed? Works here.
[06:58] <nikolam> sbarcteam, I hat the same problem with vlc starting with strange sounds and pics, when I was on 10.04, too. As a matter a fact it also started relatively recently, was good before on 10.04
[06:58] <nikolam> had
[06:58] <nikolam> It was also heard starting skype and other playing apps
[06:59] <mr_fribble> Also happens to me, but only on vlc I think
[06:59] <nikolam> after first file was playing again and again, it worked smootly after
[06:59] <guang_> sbarcteam:middle mouse?My mouse just have left and right,the middle one seems to can not click.
[06:59] <nikolam> but i am on 12.04 now
[06:59] <foobArrr> sbarcteam: one year old (sandy bridge)
[06:59] <sbarcteam> guang_: if this is a scroll wheel, it should be clickable.
[07:00] <kristenbb> hi, I have a problem with virtualbox, I'm trying to use itunes, but the iphone isn't recognized.
[07:00] <sbarcteam> if not, there's "middle button emulation" setting, making both buttons emulate middle button press.
[07:00] <sbarcteam> foobArrr: what kind of sound card does it come with?
[07:01] <nikolam> kriskropd, you need to install VB addons from virtualbox.org site , to get USB support for virtualbox. Are you using Vbox from ubuntu repos or from virtualbox.org?
[07:01] <guang_> sbarcteam:amazing..you are right.
[07:01] <nikolam> kriskropd, USB support from addon for VB is closed source, that's why
[07:01] <sbarcteam> guang_: the fact I am right is not amazing - everybody's right from time to time.
[07:01] <wols> nikolam: usb1.1 support is included
[07:02] <nikolam> wols, in one form repo?
[07:02] <foobArrr> sbarcteam: onboard, lspci: 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 05)
[07:02] <wols> nikolam: yes
[07:02] <nikolam> wols, ok mate, great to know
[07:02] <nikolam> wols, on open source VB I suppose
[07:02] <wols> for usb2.0 you still need the proprietary extensions
[07:02] <nikolam> ok, great wols
[07:02] <sbarcteam> foobArrr: do you know how to determine which driver is used for that card ?
[07:03] <foobArrr> sbarcteam: no
[07:03] <guang_> sbactream:emm,i am amazing about the fact that it is clickable,but i do not know it even i have used it for nearly two years
[07:03] <sbarcteam> basically, you should run "sudo lsmod | grep -i snd" and see if something related to intel shows up.
[07:03] <kristenbb> nikolam: oh you were talking to me, sorry. you have used the wrong nick. I think I already did install the VB addons. a normal usb stick for instance is recognized; but the iphone isn't.
[07:03] <nikolam> foobArrr, see with plpci what is hardware, then you have lsmod for modules list
[07:04] <sbarcteam> foobArrr: have you ran the lsmod command ?
[07:04] <L3top> lsmod | grep intel  foobArrr. Chances it will be snd_hda_intel
[07:04] <sbarcteam> L3top: yep, but I'm never sure with these :)
[07:05] <foobArrr> sbarcteam, L3top: snd_hda_intel is loaded
[07:05] <nikolam> kristenbb, maybe you could check #vbox channel, maybe needed to set it up in usb VB settings
[07:05] <Juinn> Um, I put both toolbars at the bottom of the desktop, but I made one collapse so it'd look better, but now they've merged and I can't seem to click either to adjust its position.
[07:05] <Juinn> I am not good at computer :(
[07:05] <sbarcteam> foobArrr: the idea is that the driver snd_hda_intel is written with as many chipsets as possible. some specific models need params tweaking.
[07:06] <sbarcteam> so, you need to google up about what tweaking your card needs.
[07:06] <Juinn> It's also lagging things up, and I think the widget is stuck in a loop or something
[07:06] <sbarcteam> you can learn about the params list via running "sudo modinfo snd_hda_intel"
[07:06] <alusion> how do i make a screen inactive from keyboard?
[07:06] <L3top> foobArrr: is your issue ONLY in vlc? Or did I misread?
[07:06] <foobArrr> sbarcteam: why would that specifically affect vlc?
[07:06] <foobArrr> L3top: only vlc
[07:07]  * L3top wouldn't blame the driver in that case
[07:07] <nikolam> Anyway, Anyone has an info on integrating BTRFS (and root ZFS) snapshots in GRUB, so you could choose previous version of the system, prior of upgrade, to boot from?
[07:07] <sbarcteam> vlc is using non-necessary the pulse drivers.
[07:07] <sbarcteam> (if that means anything to you)
[07:07] <afidegnum> hello, what's the command again that allows you to unzip all tar files from a folder? I remember some1 told me gun or detonate, but it didn't work. can anyone remind me ?
[07:07] <afidegnum> they are .gz files
[07:07] <L3top> yeah... pulse is always at the heart of these issues.
[07:07] <sbarcteam> foobArrr: is everything except vlc working smoothly ?
[07:07] <sbarcteam> I mean sound related.
[07:08] <sbarcteam> are you using any other audio applications at all ?
[07:09] <nikolam> afidegnum, tar xvzf but should check manuals. , xvjf for tar.bz2
[07:09] <afidegnum> nikolam: they are .gz files
[07:09] <foobArrr> sbarcteam: everything but vlc works fine (rhythmox, radio tray, mplayer, flash in firefox, tvtime, kaffeine)
[07:09] <nikolam> afidegnum, xvzf
[07:09] <sbarcteam> foobArrr: do you have surround setup or stereo ?
[07:10] <afidegnum> ok, let me try
[07:10] <afidegnum> meaning shold I do tar tvzf*
[07:10] <afidegnum> ?
[07:10] <sbarcteam> gtg
[07:10] <nikolam> afidegnum, that's you choice
[07:11] <foobArrr> sbarcteam: stereo
[07:11] <afidegnum> this is the error I am facing tar (child): *: Cannot open: No such file or directorytar (child): Error is not recoverable: exiting nowtar: Child returned status 2tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[07:12] <varikonniemi> hello, since i installed 12.10 my internet has not worked in virtualbox
[07:12] <foobArrr> hm, downgrading vlc could be worth a try
[07:13] <nikolam> afidegnum, to unpack all tar.gz files , I would run tar xvzf *.tar.gz.
[07:13] <parker> exit
[07:13] <afidegnum> nikolam: they are rather txt.gz
[07:13] <nikolam> afidegnum, I explained...
[07:14] <nikolam> afidegnum, use only gunzip then
[07:14] <nikolam> afidegnum, but he will probably end you up with no .gz files anymore, just txt
[07:15] <afidegnum> yes, that's what I am looking for
[07:17] <dileep> what all packages should i install in my laptop having ubuntu 12.04 in order to work in SQL*PLUS?
[07:22] <Juinn> On Lucid, I adjusted my toolbars and now they're merged and inaccessible at the bottom of the screen
[07:22] <Incindre> Hiya! Can anyone help me out with a misbehaving Samba install?
[07:23] <Juinn> Causing some lag, flickering
[07:23] <Incindre> I'm having serious problems connecting to Samba shares
[07:23] <blackshirt> incindre, what the problems
[07:24] <Incindre> Basically, I'm using Webmin to set up my Samba shares and I want to access them from windows 7 machines
[07:24] <Juinn> Containing widget seems to be looping or otherwise, delays shutdown
[07:24] <Juinn> I've also tried various super/alt combinations to no avail
[07:24] <Incindre> no matter what options in the config I choose, I can't access the share. I type in username and password and it says: access denied
[07:25] <blackshirt> incindre, maybe some notes on windows 7 registry config
[07:26] <blackshirt> incindre, maybe you need read samba documentations
[07:26] <Incindre> I have read plenty of samba tutorials
[07:26] <Incindre> and none of them are of any use (samba documentation included)
[07:27] <nikolam> dileep, you have plenty of databases. see in synaptic
[07:28] <blackshirt> incindre, what type of security on your samba config ?
[07:29] <dileep> nikolam, sorry.. i didn't get you. I want to install oracle product sqlplus in my lapatop, what should i do ?
[07:30] <SouravAJ> dileep go to synaptic
[07:30] <Incindre> What do you need to know Blackshirt? I'll type them in
[07:30] <Juinn> So hey, is there any way to adjust the gnome toolbars without having to right click them?  It's not something I know how to do in terminal...
[07:30] <Juinn> And that's just, to anybody in particular
[07:30] <SouravAJ> synapticv is a software market in ubuntu
[07:31] <SouravAJ> try apt-get install synaptic if u dont hav it
[07:31] <dileep> SouravAJ,I have already installed oracle-install-client using apt-get
[07:31] <dileep> but it asks for username and password
[07:31] <nikolam> dileep, sqlplus? I am not familiar with it, but you shoud maybe ask Oracle? I suppose there is some manual for it . I can only suppose it is in .rpm form? I use alien on .rpm packages.
[07:32] <dileep> is there a channel for oracle ?
[07:32] <blackshirt> incindre, security = user?
[07:32] <SouravAJ> type ur acount username and passwd
[07:33] <Incindre> yes
[07:33] <dileep> not apt-get , alien -i
[07:33] <dileep> how can i set user name and password for the first use ?
[07:34] <nikolam> dileep, http://docs.oracle.com/cd/B19306_01/server.102/b14357/ape.htm#sthref3935
[07:34] <SouravAJ> u can ask this oracle related question #oracle channel
[07:35] <nikolam> dileep, asking for ubuntu username/password? It is set up during GUI install of the os. After that you have users manager
[07:36] <blackshirt> incindre, sorry, i couldn't help you too much... i just sugest maybe find somenotes on windows 7 config..this is different with old version windows ... And this is not your samba problem, i think
[07:36] <auxy> hii~
[07:36] <auxy> how do I open a terminal on ubuntu x3
[07:37] <parker> hi
[07:37] <SouravAJ> @auxy: easiest wat to open a terminal is search it
[07:38] <blackshirt> dileep, you have adduser tool
[07:38] <nikolam> auxy, ALT+F2 , xterm?  ; gnome-terminal
[07:38] <blackshirt> hi parker
[07:38] <parker> hello
[07:38] <dileep_> blackshirt,yes
[07:39] <auxy> SouravAJ: oh, thanks!
[07:39] <auxy> nikolam: I'm not really a linux user sooo x3
[07:39] <blackshirt> dileep_, you just need privileges access to run that tool
[07:40] <dileep_> how to set that ?
[07:40] <nikolam> auxy, no sweat, it's all similar these days :)
[07:41] <nikolam> dileep, you use sudo or gksu prior the command to use it with root privileges
[07:41] <nikolam> then it asks for your user password if user is in sudoers group
[07:42] <blackshirt> dileep_, use sudo adduser someusername to add user to system
[07:42] <Incindre> Can a Samba genious please add me on Skype? Username is Incindre
[07:45] <trupheenix> hello
[07:47] <nikolam> what GUI you use to set up Firewall? I used to use Firestarter, but on 12.04 64-bit it gives me some logging issuis, I am not sure if it works, since it complains on GUI start...
[07:54] <auxy> hmmh
[07:54] <CQ> hello... any recommendations for doing something dropbox-like? Would sparkleshare make sense, or are there other things (FSes?) that handle replication / mirroring well between a server and several laptops?
[07:54] <auxy> I can't get ubuntu to enumerate the shares on my windows machine
[07:54] <auxy> wonder if it's a firewalling issue
[07:56] <CQ> auxy try using smbtree or smbclient -L //192.168.2.xxx to see what the machine sees?
[07:56] <auxy> oh
[07:56] <auxy> I don't know the default account's password lol
[07:57] <auxy> oh, but I wonder if it meant on the remote machine
[07:57] <auxy> Connection failed NT_STATUS_UNSUCCESSFUL
[07:58] <SouravAJ> auxy: use connect to server option
[07:58] <auxy> SouravAJ: um, where is that?
[07:58] <auxy> now it doesn't even see my machine ._. using smbtree
[07:58] <auxy> it finds the WORKGROUP workgroup, but it doesn't see me
[07:59] <SouravAJ> i am using backtrak so its on my places folder
[07:59] <auxy> oh, oh
[07:59] <auxy> I know where that is, um
[07:59] <auxy> file...
[08:00] <auxy> oh yeah, I tried this earlier
[08:00] <auxy> it doesn't accept a blank password
[08:00] <auxy> and doing it with no username doesn't work either :/
[08:01] <SouravAJ> plank passwd doesnt work
[08:01] <SouravAJ> u have to set passwd
[08:02] <auxy> but there isn't any password ... =_=;
[08:02] <auxy> on the whole machine
[08:02] <qmanjr5> Root has to have a password, does it not?
[08:02] <SouravAJ> r u connecting ubuntu to windows for retrivind files?
[08:04] <auxy> my friend's knackered his windows install; normally I'd put his drive in my machine to retrieve his music, but there are logistical problems with that (namely I'm out of SATA ports and also there's no way to physically mount his drive in my machine without taking the whole thing apart)
[08:04] <auxy> so I was going to use ubuntu from a flash drive to just copy it via the network
[08:04] <auxy> I can't get ubuntu to see my machine, though, which has a completely open (everyone "full control" permissions) share on one drive so I can just copy stuff over
[08:05] <auxy> it can't even find the machine on the network though, even with my firewall completely disabled
[08:05] <auxy> my android phone finds it fine ...
[08:05] <qmanjr5> Why not just use another flash drive, or the same one if big enough, to copy his stuff?
[08:05] <auxy> it's 70GB >_>;
[08:05] <qmanjr5> That's a lot of music.
[08:05] <SouravAJ> u can do one thing
[08:05] <auxy> I have over 1TB of music lol
[08:06] <SouravAJ> if windows hae apache installed u can use easiest sharing through apache webserver
[08:06] <auxy> ah, I don't want to set up a webserver for just this x3 I'll just take my machine apart, SIGH
[08:07] <auxy> notably ubuntu didn't manage to install a video driver for his intel GPU, kinda surprising
[08:07] <SouravAJ> for drivers u have to search from google
[08:08] <auxy> oh, I thought there was a FOSS driver for intel
[08:09] <auxy> LOL
[08:09] <auxy> I got it to work :3
[08:09] <auxy> but
[08:09] <auxy> now it won't let me copy over; it says "The specified location is not mounted"
[08:09] <auxy> seems odd that I can view it then
[08:09] <auxy> anyway, I think I know what to do :3
[08:10] <SouravAJ> good
[08:10] <auxy> oh, wait
[08:10] <auxy> what's the default password
[08:10] <auxy> for the liveUSB version; the username is just "ubuntu"
[08:11] <qmanjr5> It's blank, auxy
[08:11] <SouravAJ> just enter it
[08:11] <auxy> oh, thanks
[08:14] <auxy> oh, cifs
[08:15] <auxy> this has been very educational
[08:15] <auxy> what does 'Operation now in progress' mean lol
[08:16] <xreal> Hmm. I've installed Fluxbox with XDM on Ubunutu und Debian. I then want to run rDesktop to connect to a Windows client via RDP. The X-server seems to be started by another user than the current user, so I can't access the desktop. When uninstalling XDM, everything works... Any idea?
[08:16] <SouravAJ> it means work in progress ;)
[08:17] <auxy> hohoho
[08:17] <auxy> I figured it out ON MY OWN
[08:17] <auxy> I'm so awesome
[08:18] <SouravAJ> when someone fix errors they all thing i am awesome genius proud moments :D
[08:19] <auxy> okay well I thought I fixed it
[08:19] <auxy> I still can't paste things into the folder, lol
[08:19] <auxy> I reckon it's probably a permissions thing
[08:20] <SouravAJ> yea with combined effort of ircusers ;)
[08:21] <dia> hey
[08:23] <auxy> oh
[08:23] <auxy> I tried to do sudo cp -r Music /mnt/derp while in the folder on /media/ubuntu/OS/Users/K2/Desktop
[08:24] <auxy> and it copied some things successfully, but it then failed with "Cannot allocate memory"
[08:25] <SouravAJ> try cp *.mp3 /dirpath
[08:26] <auxy> well, it's all sorted into folders
[08:27] <auxy> oh wow
[08:27] <auxy> apparently it's a windows thing
[08:27] <auxy> how interesting
[08:40] <almoxarife> ping
[08:41] <Waraudon> looks like a bad netsplit
[08:43] <crimsonmane> somewhere someone is smelling burning plastic...
[08:44] <JonasF> Hey, yesterday I started the upgrade to 12.10 using the update-manager. In the meantime unity seems to have crashed and the starter and status bar is gone, so I can't reach the update manager window any more. I guess it is not finished yet, probably waiting for interaction. How can I get that window back? Mod+Tab doesn't work. Though Ctrl+Super+d did work yet..
[08:47] <CQ> JonasF: worst case: go to a console, kill it, and then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and hope it finishes... you may have to remove an dpkg lockfile manually
[08:50] <SixtyFold> is it suggested to use adobe flash player in firefox in ubuntu anymore?
[08:50] <SixtyFold> since adobe isnt supporting flash for linux anymore?
[08:51] <auronandace> SixtyFold: if you don't need flash then it doesn't matter
[08:55] <JonasF> CQ: okay :-(
[08:58] <CQ_> JonasF: I've had to do that inthe past and its worked without problems
[08:59] <guang_> Can libgtk-3-dev be installed on ubuntu10.04?
[09:00] <sachael> why is there no GUI tool to configure lightdm? I know I can edit the config file, but some simple graphical tool would have been nice. :|
[09:00] <JonasF> CQ_: alright
[09:01] <tintin> Anybody there?
[09:01] <lapak10> yupp...ask?
[09:02] <tintin> What is the latest stable version for ubuntu?
[09:02] <lapak10> 12.10
[09:02] <SixtyFold> well, i do need flash, btw
[09:02] <tintin> Some people say, ubuntu sucks
[09:02] <tintin> they say , ubuntu is for newbie
[09:02] <lapak10> thats just not right about ubuntu
[09:03] <lapak10> ubuntu is versatile
[09:03] <lapak10> it covers from newbie to advanced
[09:03] <SouravAJ> agree with lapal10
[09:03] <tintin> Those may be use gentoo
[09:03] <tintin> may use
[09:03] <lapak10> you ..yourself can see.... only this channel has the most active users ;)
[09:04] <tintin> So what? they are newbie
[09:04] <lapak10> ubuntu has the biggest community of active users
[09:04] <tintin> And they are not active, rather just joined here.
[09:04] <lapak10> all of them are working
[09:04] <tintin> working with what?
[09:05] <auronandace> !ot
[09:05] <tintin> Which irc client or software do you use to join #ubuntu ?
[09:05] <SouravAJ> tintin try ubuntu and explore thn u will know and its clear your doubt abt ubuntu
[09:05] <lapak10> XCHAT
[09:06] <tintin> I have used ubuntu 9.04 before
[09:06] <lapak10> tintin: have you used ubuntu urself??
[09:06] <DeJQit> KVirc
[09:06] <tintin> lapak10: ^
[09:06] <J_> me i learned on 9.04
[09:07] <lapak10> i agree souravAJ.....u should try ubuntu first
[09:07] <lapak10> and ask ubuntu related probs here....
[09:07] <lapak10> use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics
[09:07] <tintin> lapak10: I have used ubuntu 9.04 before, that was good. but todays gnome-3 doesn't look good to me.
[09:08] <lapak10> then try KDE,Unity,Gnome classic, XFCE
[09:08] <lapak10> there are plenty of desktop managers
[09:09] <lapak10> you are not forced to use gnome3
[09:09] <fairuz_> Hi guys, in my fstab I don't have am mount point specifically for /home
[09:09] <tintin> I won't use KDE, that is not ubuntu, that is kubuntu, and KDE need more ram, i have only 1GB ram
[09:09] <fairuz_>  I just bought a new hdd, can I just add a new entry to the fstab to mount my /home there?
[09:11] <SouravAJ> tintin wht u need in a os services look or anything else ?
[09:11] <CQ_> fairuz_: yes, but you might want to move /home to /home_old and mkdir /home first so you can copy the existing home data over with rsync --archive --verbose /home_old/* /home
[09:11] <auronandace> !home | fairuz
[09:11] <fairuz_> CQ_: Yes sure. Thanks
[09:14] <reisio> tintin: your dog is cute
[09:15] <Braden`> Hello
[09:15] <olo> help
[09:15] <Braden`> Is there a way to have apt change the sources list on its own?
[09:15] <Braden`> The servers I have specified in sources.list are not responding.
[09:16] <Braden`> Also
[09:16] <Braden`> After I make changes to grub, how do I have it update the boot files?
[09:16] <r0n1n> Braden`: sudo update-grub?
[09:18] <olo> jest tam ktoś
[09:18] <chaos_> whats a good network monitoring solution when you cant see all the traffic?
[09:19] <himanshu_linux> hi  ,.
[09:19] <olo> jak to działa
[09:19] <chaos_> hi
[09:19] <sachael> is there any sensible reason to do live upgrade (is it called that?) from 12.04 to 12.10? I'm not used unity/gnome3/whatever
[09:19] <r0n1n> chaos_: how about wireshark?
[09:20] <sachael> chaos_: on what level? wireshark is good for inspecting traffin on packet level
[09:20] <himanshu_linux> Have any used "wader" ? It is a modem manager . I want to know, how it works ?
[09:20] <lapak10> sachael: No need to ugrade.... ubuntu 12.04 is gud.
[09:20] <chaos_> yes wireshark is great
[09:20] <chaos_> i can not see all the traffic with it like the traffic from my router specifically
[09:20] <chaos_> i tried tcpdump too
[09:21] <chaos_> any ideas?
[09:21] <himanshu_linux> Have anyone used "wader" ? It is a modem manager . I want to know, how it works ?
[09:22] <chaos_> is wader isp level?
[09:22] <SouravAJ> @chaos: use scapy
[09:22] <chaos_> thanks i will check it out right shnow
[09:22] <sachael> that feeling when you spellcheck your post half a page up and it has 3 typos
[09:23] <himanshu_linux> chaos_ i don't know . if you tell me more what you want i can find it.
[09:23] <anerDev> hi folks !!
[09:23] <anerDev> who know "serviio" app ?
[09:23] <Braden`> unity won't start
[09:23] <Braden`> It just says "can't start display"
[09:24] <chaos_> im just tryin monitor the network himashoe_linux
[09:24] <olo> helo
[09:25] <chaos_> just wondering, has anyone seen that cantor.dust project work yet??
[09:26] <almoxarife> anerDev: why use it?
[09:26] <Braden`> Does anyone know how to set the framebuffer to 1280x768 so that when the computer starts all console text will be in that resolution?
[09:27] <Braden`> For 1,580 people, the channel is awefully quiet.
[09:27] <voyager2> hi all
[09:27] <voyager2> anyone know about installing linux on grub vhd ?
[09:28] <voyager2> vill linuxes or ubuntu in fact can identify grub based virtual hdds ?
[09:28] <voyager2> anyone has any idea ?
[09:28] <SouravAJ> braden : http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-tutorials-howtos-reference-material/3393-how-set-up-framebuffer-part-1-a.html
[09:28] <chaos_> were all on our terminal trying to take down deepspace9
[09:28] <chimney> morning :) having problems with jack ffado and my thinkpad
[09:29] <Braden`> Thank you
[09:29] <voyager2> on windows we can identify them usinf some kind of driver .
[09:29] <voyager2> so we can access grubs virtuall hdds and use it as source
[09:29] <Braden`> If the Kardassians, Romulans, Klingons, and the Dominian couldn't do it; you won't be able to either...
[09:29] <Braden`> Cardassians
[09:29] <Braden`> lol
[09:29] <chaos_> :)
[09:30] <voyager2> :/
[09:30] <chimney> Braden`: sure
[09:30] <Braden`> Almost spelled it like Kardashians
[09:30] <Braden`> anyways, afk to try the suggestions
[09:30] <chimney> morning :) having problems with jack ffado and my thinkpad
[09:30] <Braden`> SouravAJ:  Can this be done without having to recompile the kernel?
[09:30] <chimney> and an Echo Fire Audio 12
[09:31] <Braden`> Surely the default kernel used by ubuntu has framebuffer support
[09:31] <SouravAJ> braden: u can google it for various option :)
[09:32] <Braden`> Man
[09:32] <musictoto> exit
[09:32] <Braden`> For some reason, after installing gnome-shell, XWindows no longer works
[09:32] <chaos_> scapy uses tcpdump to sniff
[09:32] <Braden`> and now, I am stuck working in an insanely small console window that you'd think would be easy to change the resolution, but it isn't.
[09:33] <chaos_> i wonder why i can not see the packets from the server. i bet this cheap linksys cisco router is blocking the packets
[09:34] <SouravAJ> @chaos: u can use backtrak it has various tools ok network analysis and much more
[09:35] <Dragonster82> What is *.net * .split?
[09:35] <chaos_> i know. i think the problem is different. i usually have no problem. it just must be this router
[09:35] <chaos_> or nic
[09:35] <tsimpson> !netsplit | Dragonster82
[09:36] <Braden`> Dragonster82:  Two hubs broke their connection.  The people who quit are on the other side of that broken link
[09:36] <chaos_> its just annoying me badly
[09:37] <chimney> morning :) having problems with jack ffado and my thinkpad
[09:37] <chimney> and an Echo Fire Audio 12
[09:38] <chaos_> sorry i dont know what your talking about chimknee
[09:40] <chaos_> so has anyone seen that cantor.dust project stuff? its bad ass i want to do some network stuff like that
[09:40] <chimney> ok I'll ask later
[09:44] <Braden`> MAKEDEV -d /dev/fb0 <-- System returns, "I do not know how to make fb0".  What am I doing wrong?
[09:44] <chaos_> where is everyone from? im from the seattle area..
[09:44] <nicola> !list
[09:44] <chaos_> !music
[09:45] <chaos_> is there anything new in 12.10 from 12.04?
[09:46] <chaos_> notable?
[09:47] <MonkeyDust> chaos_  http://tech2.in.com/reviews/linux/ubuntu-1210-review/527532
[09:47] <chaos_> linux scene been moving fast i change my operating system  often
[09:47] <chaos_> thanks Monkey
[09:49] <chaos_> i must say i love this ubuntu with compiz and cairo dock. some tight ish to one whom knows how to utilize such awesomness
[09:51] <akis> is there any other more convinient way to change a file's icon other than to click to this file and choose properties etc.
[09:51] <akis> ?
[09:54] <bazhang> akis, what about installing a different icon set and theme
[09:56] <MonkeyDust> !eyecandy > akis
[10:02] <akis> bazhang: i installed already faenza icons, but i can see other icons for some kinds for files in my windows manager and other icons for the same kind of files in chromium downloads or in some windows when i am searching for files.
[10:03] <gogeta> bazhang: you play with the latest e17
[10:03] <bazhang> gogeta, not really no
[10:05] <gogeta> bazhang: its win all the stuff unity and gnome struggle with but done correctly like window fx without compiz
[10:07] <akis> !eyecany
[10:07] <akis> !eyecandy
[10:07] <gogeta> lol
[10:08] <gogeta> point was no composition for that eyecandy
[10:08] <APV1996> How to compile? There were command that is better than make install but I forgot it.
[10:08] <gogeta> so.its fast as heck and almost as light as lxde
[10:09] <APV1996> !compile
[10:09] <APV1996> !checkinstall
[10:10] <blackshirt> !eyecandy
[10:10] <gogeta> funny
[10:12] <minas> Hi. I want to use a terminal program to send emails. I used ssmtp but I didn't like the fact that my password is stored in a file in /etc/... What are other alternatives?
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[10:13] <FloodBot1> tdlguik1c: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:13] <gogeta> Skype can be configured not to store password's
[10:13] <gogeta> smtp
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[10:13] <FloodBot1> tdlguik1c: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:14] <gogeta> testing the not are we lol
[10:14] <gogeta> bot
[10:15] <APV1996> "Please write a description for the package.End your description with an empty line or EOF." I dont understand what is EOF? How to end with empty line?
[10:15] <Transfusion> EOF = end of file
[10:15] <llutz> APV1996: "enter enter" EOF=ctrl D
[10:15] <piero2nd> how to remove every packages and file system of google chrome by terminal? to install chromium later
[10:16] <codefyre> piero2nd: how did you install chrome ? .deb file ?
[10:16] <gogeta> piero2nd: you mean chrome os?
[10:16] <piero2nd> brwoser
[10:16] <piero2nd> y deb
[10:17] <codefyre> piero2nd: than you can remove it through apt-get
[10:17] <piero2nd> purge will remove file config too ?
[10:17] <codefyre> piero2nd: yes
[10:17] <sachael> whoa whoa, what is happening in this channel?
[10:18] <piero2nd> ok thank you dude
[10:18] <gogeta> evil.spammers:-)
[10:18] <codefyre> hth
[10:22] <APV1996> Ok, now with checkinstall .deb was created and installed, how do I run it?
[10:22] <gogeta> APV1996: should be in your menu
[10:24] <APV1996> 2 -  Name:    [ faangband ] but I cant find it even with synaptic
[10:26] <gogeta> APV1996: might need to do Apt-get update or press refresh to update your db
[10:26] <idiota98> ciao:)
[10:26] <gogeta> APV1996: same for the Wm so the menu refreshes
[10:28] <APV1996> gogeta, after refresh synaptic can see it. What next?
[10:28] <gogeta> APV1996: normally sysanptic and its instant search has to refresh for new apps to show
[10:28] <gogeta> APV1996: apvmight Need to religion into unity
[10:28] <gogeta> relog
[10:29] <APV1996> gogeta, hm... how to?
[10:29] <javed> whats the difference between lubuntu and ubuntu?
[10:30] <wols> javed: the desktop environment. lxde vs. unity
[10:30] <javed> thanks
[10:30] <javed> So software is interchangeable?
[10:30] <gogeta> javed: e17 for me heh
[10:31] <gogeta> yes
[10:31] <blackshirt> javed, lubuntu using LXDE as a dekstop environment
[10:31] <blackshirt> Javed, and ubuntu was using gnome / unity
[10:31] <javed> thanks
[10:31] <blackshirt> javed, what you mean with interchangeable ?
[10:32] <gogeta> javed: you can use any Wm you like all the softwhere will work
[10:32] <wols> javed: yes it is
[10:32] <blackshirt> javed, you can install lubuntu packages under ubuntu, kde, or others de
[10:32] <javed> lets say I have vlc player for ubuntu, will I be able to use it on lubuntu
[10:33] <gogeta> yep
[10:33] <javed> okay
[10:33] <blackshirt> javed, yes,sure
[10:33] <javed> okay
[10:34] <blackshirt> javed, apt system would fetch and install libraray and packages needed for vlc to run
[10:35] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[10:35] <javed> Nice, I don't know much of the technical stuff but I understand what you mean @blackshirt
[10:36] <gogeta> javed: any district based on Ubuntu will run Ubuntu packages. bodhi the one I use uses enlightenment for its Wm. probly the most underused but awesome Wm Linux has.
[10:36] <gogeta> distro
[10:37] <gaetano_> hello everyone! im trying to install ubuntustudio 12.10 and while i was installing unetbootin i got this error in the terminal   http://paste.ubuntu.com/1311878/
[10:38] <gaetano_> anyone can help me please?
[10:38] <javed> Thanks guys, you've been very helpful.
[10:38] <yellabs-r2> hi there
[10:38] <yellabs-r2> i tried ubuntu one, and get an local and server roots are different (ROOT_MISMATCH) what can i do about it ?
[10:39] <wols> gaetano_: remove the file and apt-get update again
[10:39] <gaetano_> wols: how i remove the file?
[10:39] <wols> man rm
[10:40] <gogeta>  gaetano_ if the install failed just apr
[10:40] <gogeta> apt-get clean
[10:41] <gaetano_> wols: what file i have to remove?
[10:41] <wols> the one the error message tells you about
[10:41] <gogeta> clean removes all downloaded files from the apt cache
[10:42] <slikts> how can I disable the god damn f10 keyboard shortcut
[10:42] <slikts> I've searched in gconf-editor for f10 and removed it everywhere, but I still get a menu when pressing it in terminal
[10:43] <gaetano_> can someone pastebin it for me please cause im getting a little confused! lol
[10:44] <wols> gogeta: this won't help him. read his error message more carefully
[10:45] <yellabs-r2> ah solved it..
[10:45] <yellabs-r2> u1sdtool -q; sudo rm -rf ~/.local/share/ubuntuone; u1sdtool -c;
[10:45] <yellabs-r2> nice
[10:46] <miktor> Hello there, i need help with fixing my terminal, it's all pink
[10:46] <wesker> salve mondo
[10:47] <gaetano_> wesker: ciao, tu sei italiano?
[10:47] <wesker> si
[10:48] <miktor> ah there we go, i fixed it, my .Xdefaults had been changed somehow
[10:48] <gaetano_> wesker: ho un problema con l' installazione di ubuntustudio 12.10
[10:49] <wols> !it
[10:50] <slikts> what can be more cretinic than putting functionality on a common key like f10 with no good way to disable it
[10:50] <demonfire> http://brig.co/b
[10:51] <gaetano_> ubottu: oh ok..i got no problem to talk in english, thank u for the advice anyway
[10:52] <slikts> yay finally one of the dozen instructions worked
[10:54] <gaetano_> wols: can u help me to remove that error?
[10:55] <logictheo> I'm at the friendly setup and there's a question that confuses me. It says 1. Connect a microphone to your microphone port(I did!)..
[10:55] <logictheo> 2. "Click test then speak to your external microphone" I did Yes
[10:56] <logictheo> This is what confuses me "3. After a few seconds, your speech will be played back to you". No my laptop built in speakers did not play anything
[10:56] <lapion> I have this very annoying, even irritating bug that has been in ubuntu ever since 2009
[10:56] <logictheo> but when I plug in my headphones also, yes then it plays
[10:56] <logictheo> so the microphone works.
[10:57] <logictheo> Does anyone here use friendly or know about it?
[10:57] <logictheo> maybe its also called "checkbox"?
[10:58] <lapion> if one of the lines in the fstab is not correct, or one of the devices in the fstab is not mountable/swapon-able the maintenance mode cannot continue beyond fsck/mount
[10:58] <logictheo> I have no other programs running while I run friendly, only this chat so I can get support. Is this the right channel?
[11:00] <logictheo> I'll do it the easy way. I'll answer yes and be done with it.
[11:00] <lapion> logictheo, does the headphone have a microphone attached to it ?
[11:00] <logictheo> lapion: Yes that's it. I got no other external microphone
[11:01] <lapion> logictheo, you have to select the internal microphone with alsamixer
[11:01] <marcus> anyone know what to do when unetbootin does not show up any OS?
[11:01] <lapion> or with the pulseaudio lmixer
[11:02] <Sharyari> Hi. After upgrading, my mp3-player is not recognized anymore. Nothing when I do lsusb or dmesg
[11:02] <alone> marcus: Maybe your usb device ?
[11:02] <marcus> yes, what about it??
[11:02] <BluesKaj> logictheo, that's known as a headset (mic and headphone combination)
[11:02] <alone> marcus: dead ?
[11:03] <marcus> no, it says "UnetBootin: choose OS" and it has a lot of files on it with boot flag..
[11:03] <logictheo> lapion: Misunderstanding I think? I'm currently at this test "Audio Test - This test will check that recording sound using an external microphone works correctly"
[11:04] <logictheo> lapion: It works only when I also plug in my headphones because otherwise the sound does not play from the laptops internal speakers. Sorry if I don't make any sense.
[11:04] <alone> marcus: so do you have any .iso on your usb ?
[11:04] <marcus> no, i used unetbootin
[11:04] <alone> but unetbootint needs usb
[11:04] <marcus> i have usb-_-
[11:04] <ozz1> ls
[11:04] <alone> you put a .iso on your usb via thought unetbootin
[11:04] <lapion> logictheo, what program are you using to do the "Audio Test"?
[11:05] <logictheo> lapion: friendly
[11:05] <marcus> oh, well unetbootin unzipped the ISO in usb ..
[11:05] <logictheo> lapion: I open the unity interface. I type friendly, I hit enter and it opened up.
[11:05] <alone> so what doesn't work ?
[11:05] <marcus> the OS wont be seen in list
[11:06] <marcus> in unetbootin list
[11:06] <alone> ah
[11:06] <alone> did you do the unzipped ?
[11:06] <ozz1> for a cluster computer what linux distro is the best ?
[11:06] <marcus> well, unetbootin moved all files from iso, yes
[11:06] <alone> ozz1: you have specify distro for this
[11:06] <logictheo> Oops, now I went back and it doesn't remember what I chose...I have to do it again, but that's fine.
[11:07] <alone> marcus: it's on the boot that the list doesn't printed ?
[11:07] <liquidstone> guys how to install properly nvidia drivers?
[11:07] <logictheo> The first test is to check that my internal speakers in the laptop are working correctly.
[11:07] <marcus> yes
[11:07] <alone> marcus: ubuntu ?
[11:07] <marcus> no, im going for windows 7
[11:08] <logictheo> The 2nd test is about checking that the onboard microphone works correctly and it did.
[11:08] <alone> marcus: joke ? x)
[11:08] <unityman> Any disadvantages to running the Gnome3 over Unity?? Is the Gnome 3 version stable and up-to-date??
[11:08] <marcus> no.. i couldnt get any music software working with midi on linux :(
[11:08] <alone> marcus: http://www.linuxliveusb.com/fr/download it work all times.
[11:09] <marcus> im on lubuntu.. going to install windows 7-_-
[11:09] <alone> marcus: kk
[11:09] <gaetano_> anyone knows how can i remove this file error to install unetbootin?   http://paste.ubuntu.com/1311878/
[11:09] <Neo31> Hello, I have problem booting ubuntu 12.10 live cd on hp pavilion g6. screen turn black just after the boot menu (where I chose to try, install ubuntu)
[11:09] <logictheo> Now I'm at the 3rd test which confused me because when I plug in my external microphone the internal speakers get disabled. They don't play which is illogical.
[11:09] <unityman> marcus: understood good luck
[11:09] <alone> marcus: with you can't get music ? oO
[11:10] <alone> marcus: sudo apt-get install vlc
[11:10] <marcus> im trying to get a midi controller work over WIFI but its not easy :(
[11:10] <marcus> so i decided windows.. now u dont know what to do?????
[11:10] <alone> maybe it's your windows's iso
[11:11] <alone> try with other usb bootable soft
[11:11] <marcus> such as?
[11:11] <alone> wait
[11:11] <marianoguerra> hi, I have problems with xmodmap not being picked up on boot nor in wake up, I can't find a bug related to it, any hints?
[11:12] <alone> marcus: http://www.askvg.com/a-bootable-usb-utility-to-create-bootable-usb-drive-to-install-windows-vista-server-2008-and-7/
[11:12] <logictheo> lapion: So the answer to the question "Did you hear your speech played back?" the answer will be both yes and no. Yes because if I plug in my headphones I hear something, but if they are not plugged in, and only my external microphone is plugged in, then the internal speakers won't play.
[11:13] <marcus> seems to be for windows? problem there, is that wine wont recognize USB drives.. :(
[11:13] <lapion> logictheo, your mic input is set to the 3.5mm input, you have to set it to the internal microphone with the mixer,and turn off mute
[11:13] <alone> marcus: or you have an other solution
[11:14] <alone> get VMware and run windows
[11:14] <marcus> does asio work on VMWare? (no lag sounds)
[11:14] <lapion> marcus, wine doesn't need to rcognise the usb drives wine is not an os, or a virtual machine, linux does the drive thingies for it ;-P
[11:14] <alone> marcus: try it, I don't know more
[11:15] <marcus> kkkkkk
[11:15] <marcus> bye
[11:16] <gaetano_> hey guys, im trying to install ubuntustudio 12.10 , i already downloaded the torrent and im trying to get the live USB installing unetbootin but i got this error in the terminal http://paste.ubuntu.com/1311878/
[11:16] <logictheo> lapion: Is that installed out of the box in Ubuntu 12.04?
[11:17] <gaby> hello guys - can any body tell me the site to post a pic of my terminal?
[11:17] <unityman> whylinuxsucks2012 addressed this issue and usb doest work the same as midi...  Garageband for Apple is the way to go.. Hate to say that..
[11:17] <alone> gaby: http://imgur.com/
[11:18] <thesadmafioso> Is it normal to have a user "nobody" ?
[11:18] <alone> xD
[11:19] <gaby> thanks alone:
[11:20] <gustav__> thesadmafioso: Yes.
[11:20] <thesadmafioso> gustav__: I noticed it in the list, what's it for?
[11:21] <gustav__> thesadmafioso: System daemon function.
[11:21] <thesadmafioso> gustav__: I thought it might be something like that, thanks.
[11:21] <wols> thesadmafioso: it's a minimal priviledge account
[11:21] <sachael> you can also try reddit.com/r/unixpron if you want to *look* at other people's terminals
[11:21] <sachael> s/unixpron/unixporn/
[11:22] <omidp> guys i cannot delete read-only files on my usb wat should i do?
[11:23] <sachael> omidp: how do you mount it? what is the usb's file system?
[11:23] <ozz1> hello
[11:23] <ozz1> test test
[11:23] <thesadmafioso> hi ozz1 we hear you
[11:24] <omidp> sachael, i use disk utility n when i format it gives me this error: Error creating file system: helper exited with exit code 1: cannot open /dev/sdb1: Read-only file system
[11:24] <omidp> plus i cant even delete it with root
[11:24] <ozz1> what is the command on irc for pm ?
[11:24] <ozz1>  /pm /w ??
[11:24] <sachael> isn't it /query?
[11:25] <sachael> or was that only for bots and nickserv
[11:25] <MonkeyDust> ozz1  /msg nickname
[11:25] <sachael> wait, im in the wrong distro channel hahaha
[11:25] <thesadmafioso>  /msg then nickname I think
[11:26] <paulin> HI!!
[11:26] <paulin> WHAT ABOUT US
[11:26] <MonkeyDust> caps
[11:26] <ozz1>  /msg dont works
[11:26] <ozz1>  /msg nickname TEXT
[11:26] <codemaniac> ozz1: it is /msg nickname textheretobesend
[11:26] <ozz1> i use weechat
[11:27] <MonkeyDust> ozz1  makes no difference
[11:27] <codemaniac> ozz1: it is client independent
[11:27] <ozz1> codemaniac zou get mz msg ?
[11:27] <thesadmafioso> omidp: there isn't a physical switch on the USB ?
[11:27] <codemaniac> ozz1: your test is successful
[11:27] <codemaniac> :)
[11:27] <Neo31> Hello, I have problem booting ubuntu 12.10 live cd on hp pavilion g6. screen turn black just after the boot menu (where I chose to try, install ubuntu)
[11:27] <thesadmafioso> ozz1: yes, your test with me was also successful
[11:28] <MonkeyDust> !nomodeset > Neo31
[11:28] <Neo31> I just tried that MonkeyDust
[11:28] <omidp> thesadmafioso, well i put my memory in my friends cell phone and after that such thing happened
[11:29] <Neo31> doesn't seem to work MonkeyDust
[11:29] <BluesKaj> !alternate | Neo31,
[11:29] <thesadmafioso> omidp: what kind of file system does the medium have? is it a USB flash drive?
[11:29] <ozz1> ok, my question is : what linux disto is the best for cluster ????
[11:29] <BluesKaj> bummer
[11:29] <ozz1> debian ubuntu arch ?
[11:30] <Neo31> outch do i have to install graphics card from terminal after alternate install BluesKaj ?
[11:30] <omidp> thesadmafioso, its Micro sd and contain music only
[11:30] <Neo31> plus it seems discontinued! any other methode
[11:31] <thesadmafioso> omnidp: I would check the micro sd card for an actual physical switch if you haven't. it might be a little slider type switch on the side
[11:31] <BluesKaj> Neo31, depends on the graphics card, but alternate is no longer available for 12.10
[11:31] <thesadmafioso> omidp: that could be why gparted is telling you it's read only
[11:31] <logictheo> I better do this test later. I know someone who can get me all sorts of devices to test this system well...
[11:32] <Neo31> what a fail! i need some quick workaround or abort the installation for a friend
[11:37] <oal> So I get 6 months music streaming + 20GB storage when I buy a song in the Ubuntu store. Is the 20GB permanent, or will that be removed as well after 6 months?
[11:37] <Neo31> nomodeset shows plymouth but then it breaks to a tty screen
[11:38] <ddsj> if ubuntu will run on android hardware and steam is coming to ubuntu, does that imply you can play steam games on android hardware?
[11:38] <BluesKaj> Neo31, is this the install or the live cd ?
[11:39] <Neo31> graphics card is intel 2nd generation
[11:39] <Neo31> yes BluesKaj
[11:40] <BluesKaj> Neo31, if it's the installed OS then login ,password , then startx
[11:40] <Neo31> after a while on the tty screen it turned back to black with a blinking cursor then everything is black again
[11:40] <Neo31> no I am trying to install ubuntu in dual boot for a new user BluesKaj
[11:40] <Neo31> it's the live cd
[11:41] <BluesKaj> Neo31, did you do a md5sum on the ubuntu image after burning it
[11:42] <Neo31> yes i did and verified disc is perfectly written
[11:42] <Neo31> are there any other options in addition to nomodeset to try ?
[11:42] <BluesKaj> ok , I should have said before burning as well
[11:42] <BluesKaj> Neo31,^
[11:43] <mario__> salve a tutti
[11:43] <mario__> list
[11:44] <MonkeyDust> !it
[11:44] <Neo31> yeah yesh, i check the iso and verified disc burn is well done so there is no chance that the problem is damaged (i am running the check utility from the disk to be more sure)
[11:44] <Neo31> i guess it's some other problem
[11:44] <Neo31> hardware compatibility problem I guess
[11:45] <rootpt> just go to take a coffee and wait
[11:47] <Neo31> no error found
[11:47] <BluesKaj> neo  there's only one method I can think of to install ubuntu , and that is to burn the 12.04 alternate , then once installed upgrade to 12.10 if that's the OS what you want...looks like a pc hardware recognition problem with your present livecd
[11:47] <BluesKaj> Neo31,^
[11:48] <rootpt> i've got the same problem and i just waited a FEW minutes and done.
[11:49] <Neo31> :) thanks BluesKaj. I guess I'll have to abort the computer is not mine. downloading alternate plus upgrade will take too much time which i don't have
[11:49] <Neo31> ok rootpt
[11:50] <Neo31> i'll leave the computer on the black screen for few minutes than as a last try :)
[11:50] <BluesKaj> Neo31, did you try the "try ubuntu" optiojn without installing?
[11:50] <Neo31> yes i did
[11:50] <BluesKaj> an d ?
[11:51] <maximagg> hi
[11:51] <sasuke> hi guys
[11:52] <BluesKaj> Neo31, with the 'try ubuntu' , how far did you get ?
[11:52] <Neo31> same problem BluesKaj it loads plymouth but then goes into a tty screen before it turns black again
[11:53] <Neo31> I couldn't even get time to play with some commands on the tty before it turn black (maybe for 30 seconds)
[11:53] <BluesKaj> Neo31, sorry to say , I'm out of ideas
[11:53] <Neo31> thank you anyway BluesKaj :)
[11:54] <Neo31> i'll give few more tries
[11:54] <Neo31> rootpt, it doesn't seem doing anything while it is black
[11:55] <Neo31> leds of hdd and disc doesn't blink no signs of anything
[11:56] <rootpt> :-\
[11:56] <BluesKaj> Neo31, perhaps check the live cd on a differnt pc if possible
[11:57] <Neo31> trying with acpi=off
[11:57] <BluesKaj> yeah , someto=imes that works
[11:57] <Neo31> cd reader seems to work fine. and cd is intact
[11:57] <codemaniac> sasuke: hi, do you have a support query ?
[11:57] <Neo31> ok i'll try on another pc later. but i don't think this will be the problem
[11:58] <BluesKaj> i'd check it on a different pc anyway
[11:58] <sasuke> codemaniac: what i didnt get you
[11:59] <Neo31> i'll check bios too for any thing that could cause th eproblem :p
[11:59] <unityman> sasuke: wants to chat
[12:00] <sasuke> unityman: right now i don't have any query. I am reading the issues how you guys are solving :)
[12:01] <Neo31> starting crash report submission daemon ok; then it hangs
[12:03] <Neo31> nothing seems to work, I give up :p
[12:04] <Neo31> thank you very much for help BluesKaj
[12:04] <Neo31> thanks rootpt
[12:04] <rootpt> welcome dwd.
[12:05] <BluesKaj> Neo31, bummer , sorry , some pcs are just out of range hardware-wise
[12:11] <gustav__> Once you go UNIX you don't go back.
[12:11] <KM0201> gustav__: well, that might be pushing it, unix/linux isn't for everyone
[12:12] <gustav__> KM0201: Who isn't it for?
[12:12] <doomlord> i've been using linux because i like the opensource ideas but i genuinely find windows clunky now
[12:12] <KM0201> a lot of people.
[12:12] <gustav__> I'm addicted to WindowMaker. What would I do without it.
[12:13] <doomlord> the choice in WM/DE is great
[12:13] <gustav__> KM0201: Any types?
[12:13] <IdleOne> Please take the chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:13] <KM0201> first and foremost?... gamers
[12:13] <nikolam> doomlord, windows also restrict your usage rights. see http://windows7sins.org/ But this is Ubunut support channel, maybe advocacy is off-topic, but good to know.
[12:14] <gustav__> KM0201: HoN, Nexuiz, Death Rally, emulators, etc.
[12:14] <doomlord> q: whats the diffference between focus=mouse, focus=sloppy
[12:14]  * KM0201 sigh
[12:14] <gustav__> Wine can run Steam. I've been playing ROSE. Flawless.
[12:14] <KM0201> wine is an imperfect solution.. just look through the app database
[12:15] <IdleOne> gustav__: This conversation is not support, please go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:15] <mystblade9> Hi. I don't have any DVD-R's for burning the Ubuntu ISO to.. What are the other ways, except Wubi or an USB stick, to boot the liveCD and install Ubuntu?
[12:15] <gustav__> Yes, of course you give up gaming for a bit, but it's too addictive to let that matter.
[12:15] <gustav__> IdleOne: Moral support.
[12:16] <xyh> hi
[12:16] <gaetano> #ubuntustudio
[12:16] <gustav__> mystblade9: Linux can be booted from the network.
[12:16] <suttiwit> anyone playing super tux kart?
[12:16] <KM0201> suttiwit: not now, but my nephew plays it all the time.
[12:16] <gustav__> suttiwit: That's boring.
[12:16] <mystblade9> gustav__: Do I need a server for that?
[12:16] <gustav__> mystblade9: Yep.
[12:16] <mystblade9> gustav__: Don't have one available here.
[12:16] <gustav__> mystblade9: It boots from the LAN.
[12:17] <gustav__> mystblade9: What do you have then?
[12:17] <xyh> hi, can anybody tell me something about xchat? this is my first time to use it
[12:17] <KM0201> mystblade9: you just need a machine to act as the server.. .can be another machine on the network, etc
[12:17] <gustav__> xyh: WYSIWYG.
[12:17] <mystblade9> gustav__: I have only a USB stick of about 36GB, but I want to use it for files. It's currently empty so temporarily making that the boot USB and then resetting it again would be fine.
[12:17] <IdleOne> xyh: #xchat can help also see www.xchat.org for more info
[12:18] <xyh> ths
[12:18] <doomlord> would rsync be a sane way of keeping a laptop & desktop machine in sync
[12:19] <gustav__> mystblade9: Yeah. Sounds like your only option unless you can borrow an USB stick. (Am I using 'an' right here?)
[12:19] <gustav__> doomlord: I think it's popular.
[12:20] <gustav__> tar and scp would work too, + it's encrypted.
[12:21] <doomlord> or would ubuntu one  do the job (keep your data backed up in "the cloud" aswell)
[12:21] <gustav__> You can put keys on the host and client so it would work without human interaction.
[12:21] <fvdjango> Hey guys, does anyone know of a way of using Mac OS X to log into an Ubuntu machine and see the desktop and use it as if you were sitting at the Ubuntu box?
[12:21] <bkc_> doomlord: yes, but a sync-service like dropbox or ubuntu-one would work equally well (also works over teh interwebz ;P) :)
[12:21] <doomlord> what would an rsync solution look like.. some script on your desktop and you hit 'sync' when you want to?
[12:21] <bkc_> gustav__: or couple rsync with ssh and you have encrypted rsync...
[12:22] <bkc_> doomlord: yes, or a cron-job :)
[12:22] <doomlord> cron-job=?
[12:22] <Neo31> yeah right BluesKaj , I guess it should be a 12.04 rather than 12.10. I may have a chance at least with the alternate :) i'll keep an alternate with me for next time :p
[12:22] <BluesKaj> fvdjango, ssh with X forwarding
[12:22] <MonkeyDust> doomlord  cron is for scheduling jobs
[12:22] <doomlord> cron]
[12:22] <gustav__> I have never used rsync so I can't reeeally say that much about it.
[12:22] <fvdjango> BluesKaj: Thanks - I'll check it out
[12:22] <doomlord> sorry missed my terminal
[12:22] <BluesKaj> Neo31, it could work
[12:22] <MonkeyDust> i use rsync for my backups
[12:23] <gustav__> It all depends on where you are going to make the backup. Local, LAN, WAN, etc.
[12:23] <Neo31> BluesKaj, yeah it was just bad luck :p
[12:23] <gustav__> On a protected LAN I guess rsync with ssh is fine.
[12:23] <gustav__> WITHOUT, I mean...
[12:29] <Mrokii> Hello. Can somebody recommend a good (and fast!) app to rip Audio CDs into ogg?
[12:30] <MonkeyDust> Mrokii  in a terminal, type jack -Q -R
[12:30] <Mrokii> jack?
[12:31] <BluesKaj> !cdrao
[12:31] <zeattacker00t> taek kon cok
[12:32] <MonkeyDust> Mrokii  jack the ripper, get the pun :)
[12:32] <MonkeyDust> !info jack
[12:32] <Mrokii> Ah... will take a look, thanks.
[12:33] <Umeaboy> Hi!
[12:33] <Umeaboy> May I ask what you use to extract descriptions from a spec-file & then put it back once its translated?
[12:33] <codemaniac> the name of our school is Jhalda
[12:33] <Umeaboy> IF you use spec-files.
[12:34] <codemaniac> oops sorry
[12:36] <guest-2kf3bf> Problem: Was messing around in linux, now I don't have the start menu and other things, cannot open programs or anything on my main account. Logged in as Guest.
[12:37] <guest-2kf3bf> Any way to reset?
[12:37] <rolfschoell> hello all :-)
[12:38] <guest-2kf3bf> Anyone_
[12:38] <guest-2kf3bf> ?
[12:39] <MonkeyDust> guest-2kf3bf  repeat your question every 10 minutes or so, if someone has the answer, they will most probably help you
[12:39] <guest-2kf3bf> okay cool
[12:39] <guest-2kf3bf> can i somehow view the accounts video folder so i could watch some futurama till someone is able to help?
[12:41] <cblokland> Hello, I dont know if I am at the right channel for this but I am currently facing issues with installing mysql, I had it installed earlier on ubuntu 12.04, modified the my.cnf file and that is when things got messed up, mysql could not start anymore, after lot of different tries of configurations I decided to backup the databases and reinstall mysql, unfortunatly this is also failing now.. apt-get remove and purge and autoclean a
[12:41] <cblokland> re executed but I cannot reinstall it anymore because it keeps throwing me errors about 'Table plugin already exists'
[12:41] <jrib> cblokland: purge the mysql-common package
[12:41] <PatrickDickey> guest-2kf3bf: as for the video folder, you could try CTRL + Alt+ F1 through F6 (pick a key), log in as your own account, then chmod 766 home/username/Videos (or wherever the folder is located). That should give you read/write for everyone, and everything for your account. Just make sure you change it back when you've solved the problem.
[12:44] <doomlord> is there a focus-follows-mouse option that would be a bit more friendly for globalmenu eg focus only switches when the mouse cursor stops, so you can throw the cursor from a window in the middle of the screen to the globalmenu without losing focus, but still select windows by just movign
[12:44] <rolfschoell> lol
[12:44] <doomlord> (i tend to just move windows to the top if i want to use the menu)
[12:46] <grayotic> hi guys, is there a way to make the mouse2 menu transparent again in ubuntu 12.10?
[12:47] <yeehi> I just installed Drupal using Synaptic - how do I "get" it into a web browser, so I can set up a site?
[12:47] <PatrickDickey> yeehi, what happens when you open up your webbrowser, and type http://localhost
[12:48] <PatrickDickey> yeehi: or click the link that just came up in mine.
[12:48] <yeehi> I get Error Not Found
[12:48] <rajmahendra> i dont see xorg.conf file in my system how to create one "
[12:48] <IdleOne> yeehi: lots of info here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Drupal
[12:48] <PatrickDickey> yeehi: Do you have it configured in Apache? Or even have apache installed? You need some type of webserver installed, to see the pages in your browser.
[12:49] <PatrickDickey> Good point IdleOne.
[12:49] <yeehi> Hi, PatrickDickey - I didn't do anything with Apache - i believe by installing Drupal, Apache (LAMP) was installed
[12:49] <PatrickDickey> yeehi: I'd check the link that IdleOne just gave you then.
[12:50] <yeehi> Thanks - I will look into it - i must need to configure Apache...
[12:56] <Ghiottone_> Hi all. I'm an android developer who wrote an Android app for news on linux world only ( it's here in case someone is curious https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=it.pinenuts.linuxnews ). I'm looking for more linux news feeds to add to my app, do you have any suggestions?
[12:58] <MonkeyDust> Ghiottone_  some 400 people in #android
[12:58] <PatrickDickey> Ghiottone_: that might be better suited for #ubuntu-offtopic than here. But, having said that, I'd get the Planets (Ubuntu Planet, Fedora Planet, etc) in there.
[12:58] <Ghiottone_> MonkeyDust, but this is linux related app
[12:58] <PatrickDickey> Those will cover a bunch of posts in each.
[12:58] <MonkeyDust> Ghiottone_  android IS linux based
[12:59] <Ghiottone_> PatrickDickey, you're right, sorry. but those planet are a bit too distro specific. I used one in a Debian News app. I'm now looking for more generic linux feeds
[12:59] <nikolam> Ghiottone_, suggest also other free software world, not just linux
[12:59] <Ghiottone_> MonkeyDust, yes I know. But the app shows only news about linux. This is why I asked here
[13:00] <Ghiottone_> nikolam, that could be a possible evolution of the app
[13:00] <brontosaurusrex> Ghiottone_: perhaps http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/
[13:00] <voyager2> ghottiene_ look at spesific linux app providers sites :P
[13:00] <nikolam> Ghiottone_, or make it in free software way, not discriminating in the first place?
[13:01] <voyager2> or try google. :/
[13:01] <voyager2> ie google search "feed linux  " :D
[13:02] <Mrokii> MonkeyDust: Jack doesn't seem to work. It tells me that ogg module is not installed despite I have oggenc installed. Any alternatives?
[13:02] <MonkeyDust> Ghiottone_  i'm sure the people in #android know more
[13:02] <MonkeyDust> Mrokii  sound-juicer and asunder are nice GUI's
[13:03] <Mrokii> MonkeyDust: I'll take a look at asunder, as I think I tried out sound-juicer, but it stopped working properly on 12.10.
[13:03] <PatrickDickey> Ghiottone_: You could also install one of the other linux news feed apps and see what feeds they do.
[13:03] <MonkeyDust> Mrokii  all three work on my 12.10, it must be something else, then
[13:05] <PatrickDickey> Ghiottone_: muktware is a good site also. They cover a lot of different linux and open source stuff.
[13:05]  * PatrickDickey and with that, I'll get back on topic....  For me, topic is sleep... :D :) :P
[13:05] <robbie> my wired connection keeps dropping sporadically on 12.10
[13:06] <gustav__> My wireless is acting up.
[13:06] <robbie> the log just says "Oct 28 08:56:22 Brahma NetworkManager[1066]: <info> (eth0): carrier now OFF (device state 100, deferring action for 4 seconds)"
[13:07] <robbie> I have tried to disable ipv6 -- I think Ive done that (blacklisted mods and turned off ipv6 in syscntl.conf
[13:07] <PatrickDickey> gustav__: More information please. what kind of wireless card are you using, did it work in an earlier version of Ubuntu (if you upgraded or installed a new version), and what's it doing exactly.
[13:08] <Ghiottone_> PatrickDickey, Thanks it looks promising. I'll check it better!
[13:08] <marcus> any1 know how to get NAT mobile broadband to work on virtualbox?
[13:08] <gustav__> PatrickDickey: RTL8188CE. It drops to low bitrate. In regular periods.
[13:08] <Mrokii> MonkeyDust: The problem is that in the sound juicer preferences the button for quality/bitrate is gone and now it rips with 128 only and I can't change that anymore.
[13:09] <MonkeyDust> Mrokii  that 'ogg module not installed' worries me
[13:10] <yacc> Any idea if there is quick way to make a certain UID be routed by default via a different device?
[13:11] <PatrickDickey> marcus, check in #vbox That's the channel for all things virtualbox.
[13:11] <robbie> @yacc see http://serverfault.com/questions/231446/choose-gateway-based-on-uid-linux
[13:11] <robbie> @yacc it is called policy routing
[13:11] <MonkeyDust> Mrokii  type avconv -formats     is ogg in the list?
[13:12] <robbie> Im having intermittent network drops and Im not sure why
[13:13] <yeehi> How do i install apache? sudo apt-get apache ? aren't there some nice other things like gui to go with it?
[13:14] <yacc> robbie: Well, in my case it's probably long weekend + cable overload => pain.
[13:14] <MonkeyDust> yeehi  it's apache2
[13:14] <llutz_> !lamp | yacc
[13:14] <yeehi> it looks like apache didn't get installed when i installed drupal7
[13:14] <yacc> llutz???
[13:14] <BluesKaj> robbie, dunno if network manager is at fault , but I've avoided using it successfully for many yrs , I'm not suggesting you remove it but there are alternatives available . here's one method : http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/
[13:14] <yeehi> thanks, MonkeyDust
[13:15] <llutz_> yacc: "...For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP..:"
[13:15] <robbie> well - how can i tell what is causing "carrier now off" in the system log ?
[13:15] <Mrokii> MonkeyDust: yeah, it is.
[13:15] <yacc> llutz_, not interested in LAMP. ;)
[13:15] <MonkeyDust> llutz_  miss-tabbed, it was yeehi , not yacc :)
[13:16] <doomlord> does ubuntu one use something like rsync .. figuring out deltas to send across
[13:16] <robbie> @doomlord I think its part of couchdb that does that?
[13:16] <llutz_> yacc: sry, not my day today
[13:16] <PatrickDickey> gustav__:  you might look into this http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-2015554.html near the bottom a post from Ddamia and one from Fiona. No guarantees though, since I haven't tested them.
[13:17] <doomlord> compare/contrast, ubuntu-one and dropbox
[13:18] <gustav__> PatrickDickey: Not 100% stable...
[13:18] <doomlord> does ubuntu one always go to & from the cloud location.. if it detects multiple devicse on the same network could it speedup by transfering directly
[13:18] <MonkeyDust> doomlord  http://yatsite.blogspot.be/2009/06/dropbox-vs-ubuntu-one.html
[13:18] <PatrickDickey> yeehi: You'll probably want to remove drupal, and start over with the page on Drupal that IdleOne posted earlier. It links to how to install LAMP (although they do have a quick method on the page he linked to).
[13:18] <robbie> I was reading that I might turn off autonegotiation on eth0 to fix network issues -- but Im not sure this is a good idea
[13:18] <Dragonster82> I need help guys, my microphone volume settings keep resetting whenever I reboot my computer. Its running on Ubuntu 12.10.
[13:19] <yeehi> Thanks, PatrickDickey - I will try again - actually, that is quite nice, as i can try and install the Drupal 8 Dev version, with improved html5 support!
[13:19] <PatrickDickey> gustav__:  you can try Googling for RTL8188CE. It drops to low bit rate. In regular periods. ubuntu and see what you find there. In truth, that's how I'm getting the information for you (since I haven't had the issue).
[13:20] <BluesKaj> !who | robbie
[13:20] <PatrickDickey> yeehi: make sure you note their warning at the bottom. You have two ways of installing Drupal. You have to pick a method, and stay with that one.
[13:21] <PatrickDickey> robbie: You can do that, but you need to set it to one that the other devices can support. If one has autonegotiation on, and one doesn't, then they won't work (if the speed you manually set doesn't work).
[13:21] <robbie> !networking
[13:22] <robbie> is there a general resource on the particulars of netowkring in 12.10 ?
[13:22] <PatrickDickey> !bot > robbie
[13:22] <nikolam> my dvd drive fails to eject, it is saying: eject: unable to eject, last error: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[13:23] <nikolam> also upon install there were no dvd section in /etc/fstab
[13:23] <robbie> @PatrickDickey thank you
[13:23] <PatrickDickey> yvw robbie.
[13:23] <yeehi> PatrickDickey, if I want to install Drupal 8 (the development version) and wish to keep getting updates for that installation as development work continues, how do I set that up in ubuntu?
[13:23] <PatrickDickey> yeehi, I'm not sure. if it's not on that page, you'll probably want to check with a drupal irc room.
[13:24] <PatrickDickey> yeehi: otherwise, I'd say you'll have to manually install once in a while. I'm not familiar with drupal, as I use  WordPress myself.
[13:24] <yeehi> ok, thanks
[13:25] <Dragonster82> I need help guys, my microphone volume settings keep resetting whenever I reboot my computer. Its running on Ubuntu 12.10.
[13:25] <Dragonster82> !help
[13:25] <Dragonster82> !help Dragonster82
[13:25] <dr_willis>  the !commands are  bot factoid triggers dude. ;P
[13:25] <robbie> @Dragonster82 your other audio settings maintain their changes?
[13:26] <Dragonster82> @robbie Yes.
[13:26] <Dragonster82> !patience
[13:27] <MonkeyDust> Dragonster82  use /msg ubottu to test factoids, please
[13:27] <inter> hello world
[13:27] <Dragonster82> @MonkeyDust okay
[13:27] <rozmuq> Drag0nir,  what sound card do u have?
[13:27] <rozmuq> Dragonster82,
[13:27] <rozmuq> it was ment to u.
[13:27] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/122341/volume-setting-isnt-remembered-after-restart-shutdown
[13:28] <PatrickDickey> nikolam: try this sudo eject /dev/sr0 if that doesn't work, try file /dev/sr0 and then try sudo eject -i off
[13:28] <mystblade9> Hi people. I'm trying to install 12.10 from an USB stick created with the Pendrivelinux.com Easy USB Installer, but when I run the installer, it hangs as soon as I press "proceed" on the network detection/propietary plugin page.
[13:28] <Dragonster82> @rozmuq I checked my specs and Built-in Speakers And Microphone
[13:28] <Dragonster82> Bang & Olufsen ICEpower®
[13:28] <Dragonster82> SonicFocus
[13:28] <mystblade9> Within the live environment.
[13:29] <Mrokii> MonkeyDust: It seems that asunder works fine.
[13:30] <MonkeyDust> Mrokii  it's my fav GUI too :)
[13:30] <dr_willis> Dragonster82:  possible fix -> Set the sound settings the way you would like to have them when you boot. Then, run the following command.        sudo alsactl store
[13:30] <Dragonster82> After trying out the alsamixer, I'm going to try and reboot.
[13:30] <Dragonster82> @dr_willis I will bear that in mind, I shall reboot now.
[13:30] <Mrokii> Guess it will become mine too. :) I like the option to accurately set the albom/folder/song-anems
[13:30] <Mrokii> *names
[13:32]  * PatrickDickey keeps reading about asunder here. I may have to try it also.
[13:33] <johannes__> I've got a problem compling files. For some reason i need to write "sh ./configure" i cannot just run "./configure". Why is that? I guess this somehow leads to a check failing in the configure script.
[13:34] <gustav__> johannes__: chmod +x configure.
[13:34] <dr_willis> johannes__:  chmod +x foo.sh
[13:34] <johannes__> gustav_ dr_willis it's chmoded
[13:34] <dr_willis> or 'configure' in your case. ;)
[13:34] <gustav__> johannes__: What error message?
[13:34] <dr_willis> johannes__:  then check the first line of the file.
[13:34] <johannes__> chmod +x configure
[13:34] <johannes__> johannes@johannes-desktop:~/Downloads/svn/gflags-read-only$ ./configure
[13:34] <johannes__> bash: ./configure: Permission denied
[13:34] <dr_willis> the #! entry may be incorrect
[13:34] <PatrickDickey> johannes__: does ls -l show it as rwxrwxrwx?
[13:35] <gustav__> johannes__: sudo chown johannes configure
[13:35] <johannes__> #! /bin/sh , is the first line
[13:35] <gustav__> Or. sudo chown -R johannes .
[13:35] <gustav__> Or. chmod +r configure
[13:36] <brontosaurusrex> why not just sudo chmod + x ./configure ?
[13:36] <gustav__> Anyhow... sounds like you've done something bad.
[13:36] <johannes__> It's a very fresh install of ubutnu 12.10
[13:36] <PatrickDickey> johannes__: again, what does ls -l show for the configure file?
[13:36] <Dragonster82> Thanks a bunch guys, with alsamixer I was able to fix my sound problem. Damn, why is Ubuntu so unstable.
[13:36] <johannes__> -rwxrwxrwx 1 johannes johannes 622480 Oct 28 14:21 configure
[13:36] <dr_willis> Dragonster82:  i dont find it unstable at all.
[13:37] <dr_willis> Dragonster82:  compared to the fighting i do with windows machines on a daily basis..
[13:37] <gustav__> johannes__: What does head -n 1 configure give?
[13:37] <RiXtEr> +1 dr_willis
[13:37] <Dragonster82> @dr_willis Ubuntu seems to do the job for me, but when it comes to simple thing like storing settings, its terrible.
[13:37] <PatrickDickey> Which check fails in the script also johannes__?
[13:37] <johannes__>  head -n 1 configure
[13:37] <johannes__> #! /bin/sh
[13:38] <gustav__> johannes__: ls -al /bin/sh ?
[13:38] <dr_willis> Dragonster82:  never really had any issues..  what if your windows box had the same issue? where would you even begin to find the fix? dive into the system reguestry and hope you figure out what setting is somehow related?
[13:38] <johannes__> configure:2815: checking whether the C++ compiler works
[13:38] <johannes__> configure:2825: ./a.out
[13:38] <johannes__> ./configure: line 2827: ./a.out: Permission denied
[13:39] <dr_willis> that sounds like it cant write to the file a.out
[13:39] <johannes__> ls -al /bin/sh
[13:39] <johannes__> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 Oct 25 21:30 /bin/sh -> dash
[13:39] <Kartagis> !xen
[13:39] <PatrickDickey> johannes__: if you go up one level, what does ls -l show for the directory that you're working in.
[13:39] <Dragonster82> @dr_willis In windows I never had any issues with sounds etc. The only problem I had was viruses. I came to ubuntu because of its low rate of getting viruses and its simplicity.
[13:40] <johannes__> PatrickDickey: drwxrwxrwx 8 johannes johannes 4096 Oct 28 14:39 gflags-read-only
[13:40] <dr_willis> Dragonster82:  mostlikely what happened is you somehow ran a sound app as root that saved the sound leveles as root. so when the system rebooted it used roots settings.
[13:41] <Dragonster82> @dr_willis Well I have no idea about that.
[13:42] <dr_willis> Dragonster82:  see people do stuff like that all the time in here.  just rember to use gksudo and sudo only when needed. and 'gksudo' for gui apps.  if thats what happened.
[13:42] <gustav__> Can I get Ubuntu with illumos kernel?
[13:42] <PatrickDickey> johannes__: in the directory (gflags-read-only) do you have at least rw for each subdirectory?
[13:42] <Dragonster82> @dr_willis I didn't have to use sudo on alsamixer for it to do the job for me, but oh well.
[13:42] <PatrickDickey> gustav__: you might be able to compile that kernel on ubuntu. But, I'm not sure if it's in the repos.
[13:43] <johannes__> PatrickDickey,: Yes.
[13:43] <dr_willis> Dragonster82:  alsamixer set a config file for the user thats used at login. so if you try a differnt user the issue may come back.
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> gustav__: sure, if you can find debs or source you can install and use it
[13:44] <VlanX> I'm using atftpd with 12.04 but i'm having the 32Mb limit issue. What can i do?
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> VlanX: is it a known bug?
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> VlanX: have you tried different transfer modes?
[13:45] <robbie_> what is the preferred log viewer GUI ?
[13:45] <robbie_> glogg kinda sucks
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> robbie_: less  is a great pageer
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> *pager
[13:45] <jormundur> are there any reports of viruses in ubuntu?
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> !av
[13:45] <Tdaug> How can I set up QT Nethack to run in Wizard mode? Ubuntu 12.04 LTS.
[13:46] <VlanX> ActionParsnip: i don't know what this limit is abot, but i'm pretty sure it's not a bug
[13:46] <robbie_> empathy wont save my windows live settings - I am getting this error in the system log "Oct 28 09:39:00 Brahma signond[3255]: signonsessioncore.cpp 528 processStoreOperation Error occured while storing data. "
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> jormundur: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Viruses   there are some but they aren't wild and nearly all sit in labs
[13:46] <PatrickDickey> jormundur: The only viruses that I've heard of lately are java-related, so they can affect any operating system. But, there's only one or two of them that I know of.
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> robbie_: are you the owner of the config folder? do you have write access to it
[13:47] <PatrickDickey> johannes__: try ls -l a.out
[13:47] <robbie_> @ActionParsnip - I assume so. how can I verify? you mean my $HOME/.config???
[13:47] <johannes__> PatrickDickey: I've solved it. I think it's a bug. I tried to run code which was inside a permently mounted directory (my home folder is on a normal hdd since my system is small SSD)
[13:47] <johannes__> Running the same code located on my system drive works
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> robbie_: sudo chown -R $USER:$USER $HOME     will cover all bases (you'll get an error about gvfs, this is normal)
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> robbie_: if you use empathy for only MSN stuff, you could try amsn
[13:48] <robbie_> @ActionParsnip thanks :) Ill try it
[13:48] <PatrickDickey> johannes__: That's good to hear. So, you can always copy the directory to your system drive, make (./configure make then sudo make install ) and then remove it after installing.
[13:48] <MonkeyDust> amsn no longer exists
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> robbie_: run it as I gave it, you don't need to change it any
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> MonkeyDust: dang
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> MonkeyDust: why is it in the 13.04 repos then?
[13:49] <dr_willis> !info amsn
[13:49] <robbie_> @ActionParsnip yea I did it -- I still get the same error
[13:49] <PatrickDickey> johannes__: you might go all the way back to / and ls -l home just to make sure that you have permissions. Then work your way down to the gflags-read-only directory again.
[13:49] <astex> Hi there.  I have an ATI/Intel muxless hybrid graphics system.  radeon/vgaswitcheroo can't handle it (muxless).  Can fglrx?  Do I need to downgrade xorg-server (from 1.13) for fglrx to work?
[13:49] <robbie_> @ActionParsnip good try though, thanks
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> MonkeyDust: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1312291/
[13:50] <PatrickDickey> MonkeyDust, can people using Empathy do video chats with Windows Live users?
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: MonkeyDust: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=amsn&searchon=names&suite=quantal&section=all
[13:50]  * PatrickDickey one thing I loved about aMsn earlier on, was being able to record the video chats.
[13:51] <astex> no help?
[13:51] <MonkeyDust> amsn can be downloaded from http://packages.ubuntu.com/   (strange)
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> astex: try waiting more than 2 minutes for a reply
[13:51] <dr_willis> astex:  if no one knows... you may want to check the forums and askubuntu.com and ask again in about 10 min...
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> astex: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics  may help. I've never seen a success with the switching graphics mess
[13:52] <PatrickDickey> astex did you have it working in an earlier version of Ubuntu?
[13:52]  * PatrickDickey wonders if ActionParsnip has a help.ubuntu.com list up, so he can come up with those links so quickly. ;-)
[13:53] <astex> ActionParsnip: that solution uses radeon/vgaswitcheroo which does not work with muxless cards
[13:53] <astex> PatrickDickey: no, but I had it *almost* working in Arch
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> PatrickDickey: fast-ish web connection, using LXDE so slick desktop UI and chrome (nuff said)
[13:54] <PatrickDickey> astex: I'm assuming you had it working in Windows at some point. Do you remember if you used the ATI Catalyst drivers?
[13:54] <gharz> Hi guys. I installed ubuntu i side windowz 7 using wubi. Last night i upgraded my windowz to win 8. Sadly, i can no longer get into my ubuntu coz the mbr was modified. Is it still possible to modify my boot option so i could still run ubuntu inside windowz? Please help. Thank you.
[13:55]  * PatrickDickey hates wubi with a passion
[13:55] <cfhowlett> gharz: good luck with that.  win8 uses uefi.  Probably need to reinstall BUT
[13:55] <astex> PartickDickey: Still works in windows.  Did use catalyst.  Unfortunately, catalyst claims to not be able to work with Xorg (>1.12).  I don't know if ubuntu has issued a patch or if I will have to manually downgrade the package.
[13:55] <MonkeyDust> gharz  better install ubuntu on its own partition, independent of windows
[13:56] <PatrickDickey> gharz, if you have to reinstall, I wouldn't do it with Wubi.
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> PatrickDickey: oh I loathe it
[13:56] <MonkeyDust> wubi :(
[13:56] <PatrickDickey> astex, then you might be able to use the ati catalyst legacy drivers. I'll see if I can find you a link to them.
[13:56] <astex> gharz: Some light reading (http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/10/linux-foundation-to-offer-signed-solution-for-uefi-secure-boot-conundrum/)
[13:56] <gharz> Ok. Thanks guys! But does ubuntu recognize windowz 8 partition?
[13:56] <astex> PatrickDickey: already found them
[13:57] <astex> PatrickDickey: The problem is that I don't know if I will have to downgrade Xorg.
[13:57] <PatrickDickey> gharz: Because Ubuntu can read ntfs partitions, and it basically moves the loader from mbr to another location, and points to that. It lets Windows deal with Windows.
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> gharz: i recommend you copy the wubi disk file out and uninstall wubi, then reinstall it then put the file back in. Or you could find out from another wubi user what changes it makes to boot.ini (assuming that is still used) and put the option back in
[13:57] <astex> PatrickDickey: Ubuntu can read ntfs partitions
[13:58] <gharz> Oh well... I guess i made a wrong move in upgrading :(
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> gharz: if its an NTFS partition, then yes
[13:58] <MonkeyDust> gharz  guess you're being a pioneer with ubuntu/win8
[13:58] <gustav__> Anyone running SELinux?
[13:58] <gharz> ActionParsnip i will look into that
[13:59] <MonkeyDust> !selinux
[13:59] <PatrickDickey> yes astex it can. As for the bootloader portion, Microsoft won't acknowledge GRUB, but GRUB will work with Microsoft's bootloader.
[14:00] <PatrickDickey> astex also here's a site that might help with the graphics drivers http://www.unixmen.com/ubuntu-12-10-and-amd-catalyst-problem-solved/
[14:00] <gharz> MonkeyDust i guess... I should have done some reading first before upgradng.. Now it became challenging after upgrade
[14:00] <cinselvi00> ciao
[14:00] <astex> gharz: I will probably try it over the next few days.  The problem is that Windows 8 uses a new bootloader which requires other OSes to "sign" with it for "security reasons".
[14:00] <MonkeyDust> gharz  you're learning the hard way
[14:00] <PatrickDickey> astex are you on an ARM system?
[14:00] <cinselvi00> !list
[14:00] <astex> gharz: There are workarounds that are offered, but not fully implemented yet.  You may have to do some extra work.
[14:00] <astex> PatrickDickey: i7
[14:00] <gharz> astex ... Ok. Then i would probably delete ubuntu first inside windows since it takes a lot of space,
[14:01] <PatrickDickey> astex then I think you'll be able to install Ubuntu alongside Windows 8. I know they're dealing with the Secure Boot issue.
[14:01]  * ActionParsnip would love an ARM system
[14:01] <jotamiller> wenas
[14:01] <astex> ActionParsnip: why?
[14:01] <llutz_> ActionParsnip: get an hackberry a10 and be happy :)
[14:02]  * PatrickDickey would love a new laptop period...  And maybe a Kindle Fire HD.
[14:02]  * MonkeyDust wants a NAS
[14:03]  * astex has a new laptop =].  But its hybrid graphics don't work yet =[.
[14:03] <cinselvi00> !list
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> MonkeyDust: you can make them for peanuts, use a RaspberryPi
[14:03] <PatrickDickey> cinselvi00: what can we help you with?
[14:03] <cinselvi00> thanks
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> astex: its best completely avoided if you intend to use anything but windows
[14:03] <llutz_> ActionParsnip: raspberry for a NAS? lol, 100mbi ethernet
[14:03] <llutz_> mbit
[14:04] <kroson> Hi everyone. Is there any way to enable overlay scrollbars in firefox? Thanks
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> llutz_: yeah, fast enough for most uses
[14:04] <llutz_> ActionParsnip: you're kidding
[14:04] <wigtion> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAfRZBh4Lh8&feature=plcp cool pumpkin carving video for all you board people :P
[14:04]  * PatrickDickey uses a combination of 100mbit and 10 mbit on his network.
[14:04] <astex> kroson: http://askubuntu.com/questions/35242/how-do-i-enable-overlay-scrollbars-in-firefox
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> kroson: http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Desktop-Environment/Themes/Firefox-overlay-like-scrollbar-93187.shtml
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> llutz_: works fine here
[14:05] <yeehi> i have the latest tasksel - i did sudo tasksel install lamp-server and nothing happened...
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> kroson: http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=146463
[14:05] <llutz_> ActionParsnip: i own a raspberry, its definetly way too slow for this
[14:05] <kroson> astex ActionParsnip thank you both :)
[14:05] <gustav__> MonkeyDust: Nice.
[14:05] <alexa> hello!
[14:05] <Lorra> PatrickDickey, how do you route part of the traffic through one interface and the rest through the other?
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> llutz_: what do you use it for?
[14:06] <astex> hello alexa!
[14:06] <dr_willis> my raspberry is still on backorder. ;(
[14:06] <llutz_> ActionParsnip: webcamserver in breeding-boxes :)
[14:06] <PatrickDickey> Lorra, My router is an old Cisco 2514. So my internal network is 100 mbit, and my modem is connected via 10 mbit.
[14:06] <dr_willis> llutz_:  that sounds... perverted...
[14:06] <Lorra> PatrickDickey, oh, I see
[14:06] <llutz_> dr_willis: hrm, for birds...
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> llutz_: even bluray video is 36Mbits for video and 30Mbits for audio......damn
[14:07] <ASHER1> hey
[14:07] <Guest33984> My software center doesn't work. Reinstalled it many times, but nothing works
[14:07] <PatrickDickey> Some day, I'll upgrade to a 2811 Router (and 2960 switch)...
[14:07] <ASHER1> how i move file folder to folder?
[14:07] <Guest33984> tried to remove settings and all, doesnt work
[14:07] <dr_willis> llutz_:  ;) i set the same thing up for the wife once for her lovebirds
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> Guest33984: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[14:07] <Lorra> ASHER1, you mean copy all files in a folder to another folder?
[14:07] <ASHER1> i try write like this
[14:07] <alexaaaaaa> precise
[14:07] <alexaaaaaa> precise is the output
[14:07] <ASHER1> sudo mv wordpress-3.5-beta2.zip /var/www
[14:08] <llutz_> dr_willis: "nesting box" is the right term i guess. for those things the PI is fine, or just to play around with the IO-ports
[14:08] <alexaaaaaa> i'm using xubuntu 12.04
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> alexaaaaaa: if you run:  sudo apt-get update     is it smooth?
[14:08] <alexaaaaaa> yes
[14:08] <ASHER1> this no work
[14:08] <PatrickDickey> ASHER1: at the end of that, put a /.
[14:08] <alexaaaaaa> and software center works on standard account, only not on admin
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> alexaaaaaa: and if you run:  sudo apt-get upgrade    is it smooth?
[14:08] <LiquidDemocracy> Can someone help me? I am using the sample sources.list in http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Quantal_Repositories but after an apt-get update I am getting the error message that some ppa sources could not be found that are not in the sources.list? Is there another file that is consulted when doing the update?
[14:08] <PatrickDickey> ASHER1: it'll be sudo mv wordpress-3.5-beta2.zip /var/www/.
[14:08] <ASHER1> i now download file and i want put in folder wwww
[14:08] <ASHER1> www
[14:08] <Frostbyte> hello, I've set up a dovecot/postfix combination to use mysql, but for some reason (while I can login normally) the messages I send are nowhere to be found.. Can someone help me with my issue?
[14:09] <ASHER1> what i need to write
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> alexaaaaaa: how do you mean 'admin account'?
[14:09] <alexaaaaaa> fot now, upgrade goes smoothly. I have to wait little
[14:09] <PatrickDickey> ASHER1: see my last reply sudo mv wordpress-3.5-beta2.zip /var/www/.
[14:09] <alexaaaaaa> admin account is my default account. Standard account is what I made for my brother (without sudo)
[14:10] <ASHER1> ok but this in my download the file
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> alexaaaaaa: technically, users in the 'sudo' group are admins, they need to be in that group to run admin commands
[14:10] <PatrickDickey> ASHER1: you'll want to be in the folder that you downloaded it to. So, you'll cd folder then do the sudo command. All you needed in your command is /. at the end.
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> alexaaaaaa: then it won't work as the standard account, it doesn't have permissions
[14:11] <astex> alexaaaaaa: can you pastebin the output of trying 'software-center' from the command line?
[14:11] <LiquidDemocracy> Any idea?
[14:11] <alexaaaaaa> well, software center works on that standard (unauthorised) account. It only asks for admin's password, I type it and it's ok...
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> alexaaaaaa: also run:  gksudo software-center      what is output?
[14:12] <alexaaaaaa> still waiting for "update"
[14:12] <alexaaaaaa> 130 has to be processed
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> alexaaaaaa: the update may help
[14:12] <astex> LiquidDemocracy, you may need to give a bit more info (e.g the error message, which ppas, ...)
[14:13] <LiquidDemocracy> astex, W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/csoler-users/retroshare/ubuntu/dists/quantal/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found
[14:13] <alexaaaaaa> update smoothly
[14:13] <LiquidDemocracy> astex, this repository is not in the sources.list
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> LiquidDemocracy: http://ppa.launchpad.net/csoler-users/retroshare/ubuntu/dists/
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> LiquidDemocracy: doesn't support quantal
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> LiquidDemocracy: not all PPAs support all releases
[14:14] <alexaaaaaa> gksudo software-center opens it ?!! WTF?!
[14:14] <LiquidDemocracy> ActionParsnip, yes, OK but that repository is not even in the sources.list. Why do I get the error?
[14:14] <mefatty> Ubuntu 13.10 looks great , good job guys
[14:14] <k1l_> LiquidDemocracy: ppas are not in the sources list anymore
[14:14] <PatrickDickey> !ppa-purge > LiquidDemocracy
[14:14] <ironhalik> Got a little problem - Installed 12.10, fresh install, and after installing nvidia-current, or nvidia-current-updates, compiz wont start
[14:15] <k1l_> see /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[14:15] <alexaaaaaa> when I open it by simple clicking on it, not working, but using terminal, gksudo, it works. :D
[14:15] <alexaaaaaa> Thanks guys :D
[14:15] <LiquidDemocracy> PatrickDickey, Thx. I will try.
[14:15] <alexaaaaaa> Any hint how to fix the shortcut in menu shortcut?
[14:15] <astex> try running it without the gksudo
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> LiquidDemocracy: it may be referenced in a file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> LiquidDemocracy: PPAs get added there and not in sources.list
[14:17] <alexaaaaaa> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1312359/
[14:17] <alexaaaaaa> 8 lines
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> alexaaaaaa: gksudo gedit /usr/share/applications/software-center.desktop      change the Exec= line
[14:17] <marcus> any1 know how to get my usb audio hardware to work with jack ? it doesnt show up in inputs in qjackctl, and i cannot record in qtractor..
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> alexaaaaaa: sudo apt-get --reinstall install python2.7
[14:17] <astex> alexa: edit /usr/share/app-install/desktop/software-center:ubuntu-software-center.desktop to change how software-center starts
[14:18] <LiquidDemocracy> ActionParsnip, thx
[14:18] <KM0201> whats the name of that tool... "myunity" or something like that?.. lets you set some custom settings on unity..
[14:19] <ThinkT510> KM0201: myunity isn't available for 12.10
[14:19] <astex> alexa: the problem has to do with PolicyKit.  You could try deleting some keychains using seahorse or changing /usr/share/app-install/desktop/software-center:ubuntu-software-center.desktop to use gksudo.
[14:19] <KM0201> ThinkT510: 12.04
[14:19] <shogun> oi
[14:19] <ThinkT510> KM0201: then yes, myunity is there in the repos
[14:19] <KM0201> i tried 12.10, way to buggy, so i'm back on 12.04
[14:19] <KM0201> ok.. i couldn't remembber the name of the utility... guess i should have searched more thoroughly
[14:20] <alexaaaaaa> ok, what do I change in this file?
[14:20] <ThinkT510> !info myunity precise | KM0201
[14:20] <marcus> any1 know how to get my usb audio hardware to work with jack ? it doesnt show up in inputs in qjackctl, and i cannot record in qtractor..
[14:20] <astex> alexa: you would need to change the EXEC line
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> alexaaaaaa: reread what I said.....
[14:20] <alexaaaaaa> ?
[14:20] <Arivazhagan> any one please help me to fix my track pad
[14:20] <KM0201> why did they remove it from 12.10?
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> alexaaaaaa: I already told you, reread
[14:20] <alexaaaaaa> ok, thanks
[14:20] <Arivazhagan> i cant scroll it using trackpad
[14:21] <ThinkT510> KM0201: no idea
[14:21] <ThinkT510> KM0201: i only ever used 2 features of it anyway, one of them got incorperated into unity on 12.10
[14:21] <cblokland> Someone here familier with reinstalling mysql on ubuntu 12.04? I keep getting error: 'Table plugin already exists' and also a syntax error 'ALTER TABLE user ADD column Show_view_priv enum('N','Y') CHARACTER SET utf8 NOT '
[14:22] <LiquidDemocracy> PatrickDickey, sudo ppa-purge ppa:csoler-users/retroshare give me Warning:  Could not find package list for PPA: csoler-users retroshare
[14:22] <KM0201> ThinkT510: yeah,yeah, there's only a couple of features i want also.... i tried 12.10, just way to buggy.
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> alexaaaaaa: reading is useful, you should try it
[14:22] <ShapeShifter499> This is a unrelated question to Ubuntu... Question is has anyone seen a file that has a ".resequence" extension (without the quotes)
[14:22] <ShapeShifter499> ?
[14:22] <cblokland> My logs are looking the same described here: http://lists.ourshack.com/pipermail/mythtvnz/2012-June/012749.html
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> ShapeShifter499: what does file say it is?
[14:23] <ThinkT510> KM0201: i haven't had any problems, but that doesn't really help you sorry
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> KM0201: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/myunity/+changelog
[14:23] <cblokland> I cant removed and purged mysql lots of times already, nothing seems to work ..
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> KM0201: Deleted in quantal-release on 2012-09-10 (Reason: does not work for current unity any more (gsettings), hol...)
[14:24] <KM0201> i see
[14:24] <BluesKaj> LiquidDemocracy, another method is to gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list.d with the run command (alt+F2) and remove the the ppa there
[14:25] <ShapeShifter499> ActionParsnip: It's binary and unreadable, it's part of the ota update for iPhone, I think when using a tool resequences a chunk of the dyldt cache but I don't know how to apply it and google is no help
[14:25] <ShapeShifter499> *dyld
[14:25] <astex> alexaaaaaa: is your problem resolved?
[14:26] <marcus> any1 know how to get my usb audio hardware to work with jack ? it doesnt show up in inputs in qjackctl, and i cannot record in qtractor..
[14:26] <ThinkT510> ShapeShifter499: we only support ubuntu here
[14:26] <BluesKaj> marcus, does lsusb show your audio device?
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> marcus: is it selected as the input device in sound settings?
[14:27] <ShapeShifter499> ThinkT510: I know but I was wondering if anyone happened to know about a ".resequence" file
[14:27] <LiquidDemocracy> Can I simply delete everything manually in the sources.list.d directory?
[14:27] <Tex_Nick> cblokland : you might try  #mysql
[14:27] <ThinkT510> ShapeShifter499: but its off topic
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> LiquidDemocracy: if you want, it will remove the PPAs you have added
[14:27] <BluesKaj> LiquidDemocracy, yes
[14:27] <llutz_> LiquidDemocracy: if you are sure not to need those repos anymore, yes
[14:27] <cblokland> Thanks Tex_Nick , will try there
[14:27] <ironhalik> So, any thoughts on my problem? :>
[14:28] <sk89ballz> can anyone point me to a article/howto on getting a ubuntu webmail server rolling with authentication to a win2k3 dc controller?
[14:28] <doomlord> is ubuntu1 a bit flaky
[14:28] <LiquidDemocracy> ActionParsnip,  sudo ppa-purge ppa:csoler-users/retroshare give me Warning:  Could not find package list for PPA: csoler-users retroshare Why is that you think?
[14:28] <sk89ballz> i am looking for dovecot, postfix if possible
[14:28] <marcus> actionparsnip: yes it is
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> ironhalik: can you pastebin the output of:  sudo lshw -C display; lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | grep nvidia
[14:28] <Frostbyte> Can somebody help? I used this guide: http://www.exratione.com/2012/05/a-mailserver-on-ubuntu-1204-postfix-dovecot-mysql/ but I can't seem to see the emails I send (even tho postfix sends them out)
[14:28] <sk89ballz> and squirrel mail i guess for the webmail interface,
[14:29] <lee_> ff
[14:29] <sk89ballz> Frostbyte :)
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> LiquidDemocracy: if you delete the fine in /etc/apt/sources.list.d   you removed the PPA so you should be fine
[14:29] <ironhalik> ActionParsnip: sec, ill need to ssh into the system
[14:29] <Cenerix> hello, there. i need some help with my ubuntu 12.04: my connection is very slow. someone that could help me?
[14:29] <sk89ballz> we are in the same sector of the buntuverse
[14:30] <astex> Cenerix: can you offer a bit more information about your system, how you're connected, ...?
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> Cenerix: try running:  gksudo gedit /etc/sysctrl.conf    and add these lines: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/sysctl
[14:30] <LiquidDemocracy> ActionParsnip, thx. Just did. Worked. :) Was jut wondering why the command didn't do it. But never mind. ... :P
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> LiquidDemocracy: instead of removing all, you could have grepped for the repo and deleted the one file
[14:31] <thesadmafioso> Hi, how can I use sudo apt-get to unmark a particular package for installation?
[14:31] <Frostbyte> anyone?
[14:31] <marcus> actionparsnip: yes it is?
[14:31] <sk89ballz> hang on Frostbyte, i am reading through that article right now
[14:31] <brontosaurusrex> thesadmafioso: apt-get remove pack ?
[14:31] <MonkeyDust> Frostbyte  better ask in #ubuntu-server, i guess
[14:31] <maca> Hello. I have a problem with LibreOffice 3,6,2. So, the problem is Hyperlinks. Yesterday, it worked well, but today no. I'm doing a job, on Impress. I have many slides, and many words have a link to others slide to show a images. Today, when a clic the hyperlink, it don't go to the slide. It seems that dissapeared all the links... I don't understand anything about that...
[14:31] <Frostbyte> thanx
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> marcus: in alsamixer are all levels cranked and unmuted?
[14:32] <sk89ballz> Frostbyte, what do you mean you cannot "see" the emails
[14:32] <thesadmafioso> brontosaurusrex: nah, it's not installed it's only marked.
[14:32] <dArKd3ViL> vi vs emacs?
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> dArKd3ViL: that is offtopic here
[14:32] <ironhalik> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1312415/ - just a heads up, in a desperate attempt to fix it, I used xorg-edgers ppa - but the problem is the same on default quantal ppas
[14:33] <marcus> ActionParsnip: i see no "Mute" anywhere, on either of the sound cards
[14:33] <emir> hello
[14:34] <emir> what is best way to secure linux after installation???
[14:34] <emir> what should i do?
[14:34] <LiquidDemocracy> ActionParsnip, OK.
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> ironhalik: sudo dpkg -P nvidia-current-updates; sudo apt-get --purge remove nvidia-settings-updates; sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings; sudo nvidia-xconfig     then  reboot
[14:34] <thesadmafioso> anyone familiar with kismet?
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> emir: the default is pretty secure
[14:35] <emir> somebody managed to change my root password while i was using mint
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> emir: mint is offtopic here
[14:35] <marcus> ActionParsnip: i see no "Mute" anywhere, on either of the sound cards
[14:35] <emir> now i user ubuntu studio and i am thinking to try dreamstudio as well... but i am conci
[14:36] <adac> emir, I found installing a firewall like "ufw" very useful.
[14:37] <alexaaaaaa> ActionParsnip: installed python
[14:37] <ironhalik> ActionParsnip: brb, I'll do it on a fresh install, without the edgers ppa
[14:38] <alexaaaaaa> doesnt improve software center
[14:40] <zdkl> en verdad
[14:40] <zdkl> el ubuntu.......
[14:41] <zdkl> es una caca de vaca
[14:41] <maca> Why in Libre Office don't work properly the hyperlink??
[14:41] <zdkl> maca tu eres de granada¿?
[14:42] <MonkeyDust> zdkl  no rants here please
[14:42] <zdkl> what is rants?
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> alexaaaaaa: so you chaned the Exec line in /usr/share/applications/software-center.desktop   (or similar) to:  Exec=gksudo software-center     ?
[14:43] <alexaaaaaa> hahaha, I just wrote "exec=line". How stupid I am :(
[14:43] <zdkl> como puedo instalar la antena sveon en ubuntu? se supone q es para linux
[14:43] <maca> zdkl, no de Madrid
[14:43] <BWorld> Tex_Nick, I bhave been to the #mysql channel, looks like it is a thing on Ubuntu or maybe #debian
[14:43] <zdkl> anda yo tmb!!!
[14:43] <riqdiiz> Hello how do i get to use irc   on telnet?
[14:43] <zdkl> yo tmb maca
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> alexaaaaaa: the file is software-properties-gtk.desktop  too :)
[14:43] <MonkeyDust> !es
[14:44] <maca> tengo un problema con Libre Office, zdkl
[14:44] <zdkl> donde escribo eso
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> riqdiiz: connect to port 6667 using telnet
[14:44] <BWorld> Because I can run mysqld but the startup script wont allow me..
[14:44] <zdkl> maca la verdad es que soy nuevo en esto del ubuntu
[14:45] <zdkl> pero que es lo q te pasa maca?
[14:45] <mneptok> maca / zdkl: Ingles solamente, pf.
[14:45] <zdkl> ok
[14:45] <maca> por privado, maka
[14:45] <mneptok> bien gracias
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> !es | zdkl
[14:45] <zdkl> you are welcome men
[14:46] <JMS32> When i'm rtrying to install ubuntu server it writes what it can't mount cd-rom. What to do?
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> JMS32: what are you using to install CD or USB?
[14:46] <JMS32> ActionParsnip, USB stick
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> JMS32: did you MD5 test the ISO you put on the USB?
[14:47] <JMS32> ActionParsnip, nope. I'll try right now
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> JMS32: why didn't you before, so you know the data is complete and consistent?
[14:48] <JMS32> ActionParsnip, i'm think thaw torrent already do it while downloading
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> JMS32: its still worth doing
[14:48] <Tex_Nick> BWorld : do you want to completely remove mysql, all tables & data ?
[14:48] <sasuke> hi gusy, i am install windows os on virtual box , but i am receiving this error." http://imagebin.org/233629" can anyone help me out of this
[14:49] <sasuke> sry installing window OS on virtualbox
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> sasuke: did you run the command in blue prefixed with sudo?
[14:49] <sasuke> yes i did
[14:50] <sasuke> ActionParsnip: its telling command not found
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> sasuke: so you ran:  sudo /etc/iit.d/vboxdrv setup
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> sasuke: so you ran:  sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup
[14:51] <sasuke> yes
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> sasuke: command not found still?
[14:53] <sasuke> ActionParsnip: yes
[14:54] <sasuke> sasuke@Lenova:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup
[14:54] <sasuke> sudo: /etc/init.d/vboxdrv: command not found
[14:54] <sasuke> ActionParsnip: its coming like this
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> sasuke: did you run:  sudo usermod -a -G vboxusers sasuke     then log off and on?
[14:55] <sasuke> ok , let me try
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> sasuke: you may need to run:  sudo groupadd vboxusers    first
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> sasuke: I also recommend you ask in #vbox
[14:56] <sasuke> ok
[14:57] <ironhalik> ActionParsnip: Thanks - it worked. Maybe not with nvidia-current-updates, but it did with nvidia-current
[14:57] <ironhalik> so thanks for the help
[14:57] <Fernest> Is there a way to use a smartphone as an typing input device for my Ubuntu Laptop?
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> ironhalik: you had a bit of a mess of nvidia packages, must have confused udev
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> Fernest: what OS is the phone running?
[14:58] <Fernest> It is Android 4.0.1 (Samsung Galaxy S2)
[14:59] <ironhalik> ActionParsnip: Well, yeah, but on clean install, nvidia-current-updates give the same result, without messing around
[14:59] <Andre_designer> hi do someone know a  good tutorial for setup a ubuntu to ubuntu home network that i can share my folders??
[14:59] <Andre_designer> don't know how to do that
[14:59] <KM0201> Andre_designer: samba is the easiest way
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> Fernest: http://www.remotedroid.net/    needs java on the server side
[14:59] <KM0201> !samba
[15:00] <Fernest> ActionParship: Thx. I'll check this out
[15:00] <Andre_designer> no not samba ubuntu to ubuntu
[15:01] <KM0201> Andre_designer: samba will work just fine ubuntu to ubuntu, but if you're going to linux to linux, you'd want to look at nfs (although samba is a lot easier to set up)
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> Andre_designer: if you install openssh-server you will get an SFTP server which you can connect to using nautilus, you will also be able to connect over the internet securely and access yourfiles if you setup port forwarding
[15:01] <KM0201> i thought he just wanted to set up home network filesharing?... sftp and ssh are a bit extreme just for that
[15:02] <Andre_designer>  yes indeed
[15:03] <hhhzzzarn> KM0201, I was just reading about that on a web page.
[15:03] <KM0201> hhhzzzarn: reading about what?
[15:03] <KM0201> Andre_designer: just set up samba... ubuntu reads/writes samba shares no problem, and it's easier to set up than nfs
[15:03] <LiquidDemocracy> Sorry, today is not my day. I want to extraxt a .tar archive but tar -x tarfile.tar does not do it. The shells "hangs".
[15:03] <hhhzzzarn> KM0201, how do access your files on another computer from your file manager by typing smp:/<ip of your other computer while sharing is on>
[15:04] <hhhzzzarn> then typing the password.
[15:04] <llutz_> LiquidDemocracy: tar -xf file.tar
[15:04] <KM0201> yeah
[15:04] <tkkrlab-bar> missiw
[15:04] <Andre_designer> i want to now how to share my files on a other computer
[15:04] <tkkrlab-bar> tukkerlab is geopend
[15:04] <KM0201> Andre_designer: is the other computer windows or ubuntu?
[15:04] <LiquidDemocracy> llutz, thx. Oh my.
[15:05] <ifacedown> hello
[15:05] <Andre_designer> ubuntu  to ubuntu
[15:05] <ifacedown> I have a question
[15:05] <KM0201> Andre_designer: ok, then what is your quesiton, use samba, be done with it..
[15:05] <BluesKaj> hhhzzzarn, as long as the other pc is a linuxbox , not that easy on a windows network
[15:05] <smith1> http://brig.co/d gotta love this wallpaper
[15:06] <hhhzzzarn> andre_designer, http://lubuntu.net/blog/lubuntu-screencast-multi-monitor-tips-tricks#comments
[15:06] <hhhzzzarn> andre_designer, read the comments section
[15:06] <Andre_designer> though samba was for ubuntu -> windows
[15:07] <KM0201> Andre_designer: it is.. but samba works just fine ubuntu to ubuntu as well... if you want a true linux solution for ubuntu to ubuntu, look at nfs (but as i said, it's a pain in the ass to set up, thus why i suggested samba if you just want simple filesharing)
[15:08] <hhhzzzarn> andre_designer: http://askubuntu.com/questions/176248/share-folders-between-two-ubuntu-12-04-machines
[15:08] <BluesKaj> Andre_designer, make sure the appropriate windows pc folders are setup to share whatever method you choose to connect with.
[15:09] <hhhzzzarn> BlueKaj, he is sharing between two ubuntu computers.
[15:09] <gaetano> hello, anyone can tell me how to boot into the USB?
[15:10] <smith1> whats the main difference between debian and ubuntu
[15:10] <KM0201> ubuntu is based on debian
[15:10] <KM0201> Ubuntu... the african word for "I can't install Debian"
[15:10] <cfhowlett> gaetano: during boot you should see a brief message
[15:11] <cfhowlett> gaetano: press f* to change boot options
[15:11] <cfhowlett> gaetano: do that, go into your bios and set your first boot option to the USB.  Save, exit reboot
[15:11] <KM0201> smith1: debian can also be a lot more fickle about drivers, etc..
[15:12] <smith1> iv just found this http://brig.co/e
[15:13] <hhhzzzarn> smith1: the data is old.
[15:14] <smith1> oh yeah
[15:14] <n0sq> i sure do get a lot of crashes and error messages with 12.04 and 12.10
[15:14] <n0sq> i may have to roll back to 11.x
[15:14] <KM0201> smith1: its old, but honestly, its not surprising at all (and I've also been a debian user for a while, but use Ubuntu on my laptops because wireless isn't a pain)
[15:14] <Fernest> ActionParsnip: OMG! This is awesome :-D
[15:15] <rlw980> Hi Guys I'm having problems with my USB the Os on my HP Desktop machine I'm running off is not picking up the USB
[15:15] <n0sq> my wife is trying me crazy with the complaints about amsn not working properly in 12.10
[15:15] <rlw980> What sahll I do, do I have to install any software for the OS to pick up the USB
[15:15] <rlw980> *Shall
[15:15] <cfhowlett> rlw980: are you sure USB booting is suppported?
[15:16] <n0sq> trying == driving
[15:16] <rlw980> cfhowlett: How do you mean, when I boot up the Computer
[15:16] <hhhzzzarn> nosq, try xubuntu 12.10 :)
[15:16] <n0sq> (that's how crazy the wife is making me)
[15:16] <cfhowlett> rlw980: go into the bios and see if USB is offered as a boot option.
[15:17] <ThinkT510> n0sq: why not use pidgin?
[15:17] <LiquidDemocracy> Are there any retroshare users among you guys?
[15:17] <n0sq> hhhzzzarn: apparnelty a lot of people are having trouble with amsn not opening their hotmail account
[15:17] <n0sq> ThinkT510: pidgin has the same problem
[15:17] <Fernest> does one know of any Apps (for Android), which can invoke Key-Commands or Macros on an Ubuntu machine? Something like: "On the smartphone I have several buttons. If I press one, it invokes i.e. Ctrl+p on my Ubuntu. Would love to have some sort of touchpad to use custom commands (like "Create new File with a Class macro" on gedit)
[15:17] <rlw980> cfhowlett: Righto, I shall do that for you now and I will be right back right now
[15:17] <ThinkT510> n0sq: empathy?
[15:18] <n0sq> ThinkT510: i guess i'll try that. emesene was getting the job done in 12.04 but it keeps crashing in 12.10
[15:21] <MonkeyDust> n0sq  i have that too, here's what you do: enter your email password, then retype the hotmail address
[15:21] <MO_Handes> is there anyway to make login screen understand the user? for example if I entered the password for user X it logins to user X and if I entered the password for user Y it logins to user Y. not having to choose or type the account name.
[15:21] <MonkeyDust> n0sq  emesene is unstable in 12.10
[15:22] <rlw980> cfhowlett: Yeah, It's showing on the boot menu
[15:22] <hhhzzzarn> M0_handes, the other options allows you to click on the username and type the password
[15:23] <cfhowlett> rlw980: OK, select USB, SAVE THE OPTION, exit and reboot...
[15:23] <hhhzzzarn> rlw980: wait make sure usb is first in the order, ahead of hard disk.
[15:23] <MO_Handes> hhhzzzarn, I don't like to choose the user, I just need to enter the password
[15:24] <hhhzzzarn> MP_Handes, you are lazy :)
[15:24] <rlw980> hhhzzzarn: Right, okay I will do that for you n0ow
[15:24] <cfhowlett> hhhzzzarn: right.  Stated much more precisely than I did. Thanks.  (multitasking tech support and romance chats is hard work...)
[15:24] <rlw980> Floodbot1: Hi
[15:25] <MO_Handes> hhhzzzarn, that's not about it. I have different users logging in to my computer. I don't like them to understand they are logging in different accounts!
[15:28] <hhhzzzarn> MO_Handes, I see. you may need advance help for that.
[15:29] <rlw980> cfhowlett: Done that for you
[15:29] <rlw980> hhhzzzarn: Done that for you.
[15:29] <cfhowlett> rlw980: did it boot?
[15:30] <rlw980> cfhowlett: Yes It boot, then went into the OS
[15:30] <Dioxin> MO_Handes are they logging in from different IPs? if they are static you might be able to have a default user for each IP
[15:31] <cfhowlett> rlw980: success?
[15:31] <MO_Handes> Dioxin, no
[15:31] <const_antine> Hi
[15:31] <rlw980> cfhowlett: What you mean success?, the OS isn't picking my USB up though
[15:32] <cfhowlett> rlw980: maybe I misunderstood.  I thought you had an ubuntu USB and it wouldn't boot?
[15:32] <const_antine> What is a good resource to find out about setting up network drives?
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> const_antine: do you mean sharing a folder?
[15:33] <const_antine> Connecting to, as well as hosting
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> !samba | const_antine
[15:33] <const_antine> ActionParsnip, sharing a directory
[15:33] <rlw980> cfhowlett: No Ubuntu is running off my Hard Drive, not my USB
[15:33] <cfhowlett> rlw980: awkward.  I apologize.  Totally misunderstood.  So it does not see the USB
[15:34] <const_antine> ActionParsnip, is there an alternative? For sharing with other Linux hosts?
[15:34] <cfhowlett> rlw980: does the USB run on other computers?
[15:34] <rlw980> cfhowlett: Yes. I know that, and don't worry it's fine and yes, that's right the OS Isn't picking it up
[15:34] <marcus> hi im trying to get my USB mic to work.. in jokosher after working sound record, it says "Loading..." right after recording, and wont load, to play and in QTRACTOR it wont come sound on recording.. i tried with and without qjackctl
[15:35] <hhhzzzarn> const_antine: http://askubuntu.com/questions/100790/how-to-enable-file-sharing-between-two-pcs
[15:35] <rlw980> cfhowlett: Yes It does?
[15:36] <cfhowlett> rlw980: do you use this usb in a Mac/Apple?
[15:36] <rlw980> cfhowlett: Windows 7
[15:37] <rlw980> Usage: SEND <nick> [</>]
[15:38] <hhhzzzarn> rlw980: you have a windows 7 computer, you burned the iso onto a USB to make it bootable using a program, you plug the usb to your computer, you went to bios and enabled the usb boot option, you made sure the usb boot order is ahead of hard disk (just put on top of everything if you are not sure). Then you saved the settings and restarted. What happened next?
[15:38] <DegreesAwesome> I need to poo
[15:39] <cfhowlett> hhhzzzarn: not a boot issue.  Ubuntu is installed and running but doesn't recognize the usb.
[15:39] <hhhzzzarn> oh lol ...
[15:39] <rlw980> hhhzzarn: WAIT A MINUTE NOW!
[15:39] <hhhzzzarn> That is why you should ask questions about the questions.
[15:40] <hhhzzzarn> rlw980: are you trying to install ubuntu from a usb?
[15:40] <hhhzzzarn> rlw980: or trying to use your usb in general?
[15:40] <rlw980> hhhzzzarn: No,
[15:40] <rlw980> Ubuntu is already on here
[15:41] <rlw980> Ubuntu is running off my Hard Drive
[15:41] <hhhzzzarn> rlw980: ok, continue.
[15:41] <rlw980> hhhzzarn: For the past 2 week or maybe 3 weeks the USB Isn't picking up with my OS
[15:41] <kamilo> ohai
[15:42] <dante123> hi all, all kinds of issues with libreoffice draw (no menu bar) after upgrading from ubuntu 12.04 to 12.10....any suggestions or workarounds?
[15:42] <cfhowlett> kamilo: greetings
[15:42] <hhhzzzarn> rlw980, so you have some files on your usb that you want to use, ubuntu is not showing your usb (so you can't not access your files on the usb).
[15:42] <kamilo> can u recommend any office suite for ubuntu ?
[15:42] <sayers> libreoffice
[15:42] <cfhowlett> kamilo: libre office or open office
[15:42] <kamilo> i got it
[15:42] <hhhzzzarn> rlw980: ok. have you tried a different usb?
[15:42] <dante123> libre
[15:42] <kamilo> is there any other options =
[15:42] <kamilo> ?
[15:42] <dante123> abiword
[15:43] <kamilo> is it better than libreoffice
[15:43] <rlw980> hhhzzarn: Yeah, this information is right
[15:43] <kamilo> ?
[15:43] <hhhzzzarn> kamilo: libreoffice
[15:43] <sayers> Depends from what you are trying to achive, yes there are alternatives
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> kamilo: http://www.kabatology.com/04/19/integrating-zoho-online-office-suite-with-ubuntu-ubuntu-10-04/   its a cloud based suite but works
[15:43] <kamilo> oh
[15:44] <eamon> Is it true that the root password isn't set when Ubuntu is installed? How do I stop hackers from logging in as root?
[15:44] <hhhzzzarn> rlw980: you are taking some time answering my questions, are you translating? if so, I can write simpler and slower.
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> kamilo: there is also koffice ad google docs I can think of fast
[15:44] <dante123> abiword is strictly word processor....but some like it better than libreoffice writer
[15:44] <hhhzzzarn> kamilo: libreoffice 3.6.2 :)
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> kamilo: or you can install abiword and gnumeric and get a word processor and spreadsheet app
[15:44] <kamilo> orly
[15:44] <llutz_> eamon: root-account is locked, you cannot login as root
[15:44] <dante123> Anyone know of issues with libreoffice draw and unity in ubuntu 12.10???  I have no menu bar
[15:45] <rlw980> hhhzzzarn: No I ain't a foreigner, I am fully British
[15:45] <sayers> you can execute a temporary root permissions into the terminal
[15:45] <cfhowlett> rlw980: LOL.  ok
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> rlw980: you are a foreigner to non-british people :)
[15:45] <Danon> should i keep windows on my desktop or install ubuntu on it to because i have ubuntu on my laptop
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> Danon: if Ubuntu fits the needs of the system, why not :)
[15:46] <rlw980> ActionParsnip: Haha, If it wasn't for the British we all would have the WWW
[15:46] <yeats> Danon: if you're asking that question at all, you should probably keep windows around for now IMHO
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> rlw980: how do you mean?
[15:46] <const_antine> Which fs is better, smb or nfs?
[15:46] <hhhzzzarn> rlw980, have you tried your usb on another computer to see if it works? Or have you tried another usb on this os?
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> const_antine: neither is better, or the other wouldn't exist
[15:47] <rlw980> hhhzzzarn: I have tried it on this current OS
[15:47] <nitesh> I am getting logged off as soon as I log in my Ubuntu 12.04 box
[15:47] <const_antine> That's a very extreme statement
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> const_antine: both have strengths and weaknesses
[15:47] <hhhzzzarn> rlaw980: if it wasn't for the british, the world would be a better place.
[15:47] <rlw980> ActionParsnip: It's fine don't worry
[15:47] <hhhzzzarn> rlw980: british elites, imperialists.
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> const_antine: no its not, if one was better, nobody would use the other, and it would be dropped due to low popcorn
[15:47] <hhhzzzarn> rlw980: offtopic.
[15:47] <nitesh> It is happening only for one of the user account in this machine, other accounts are working fine. Anyone have a clue?
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> rlw980: I'm british btw, living in England
[15:47] <marcus> anyone know how to record an USB mic in LUBUNTU 12.10?
[15:47] <const_antine> ActionParsnip, your first response was SAMBA, to my original question
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> const_antine: its a fast and dirty way to share folders, all OSes can access it
[15:48] <rlw980> hhhzzzarn: Right ok
[15:48] <hhhzzzarn> rlw980: we don't know if you the problem is with your usb, with your ubuntu os, or with your computer.
[15:48] <const_antine> fast and dirty is for rabbits
[15:48] <const_antine> :)
[15:48] <rlw980> hhhzzzarn: So what shall I do then?
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> const_antine: it works and OSes can access it without extra software
[15:49] <hhhzzzarn> rlw980: if the problem is with your usb, to test it, try another usb key with your ubuntu and windows 7 (if you have windows 7 installed as well)
[15:49] <sayers> ActionParsnip: I can't access my 2nd ubuntu pc with turned ON Samba from my main pc with Mint installed on it.
[15:49] <hhhzzzarn> rlw980: if the problem is with ubuntu, try the usb key in windows 7. If it worked in windows 7, the problem is ubuntu
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> const_antine: if you install openssh-server you will get an SFTP server too, secure but a little slower, Windows will need something like filezilla to access it
[15:50] <rlw980> hhhzzzarn: I only have one OS
[15:50] <rlw980> and not two
[15:50] <hhhzzzarn> rlw980: if the problem is with your computer, try the usb key on another computer.
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> sayers: can you ping the system? If you run smbtree on both systems, do you see the shares?
[15:50] <nitesh> I am getting logged off as soon as I log in my Ubuntu 12.04 box
[15:50] <nitesh> It is happening only for one of the user account in this machine, other accounts are working fine. Anyone have a clue?
[15:50] <const_antine> ActionParsnip, aside from convenience, in what meaningful way is smb different from nfs?
[15:50] <hhhzzzarn> rlw980: do you have another usb key with you now? you can test another usb key.
[15:50] <sayers> ActionParsnip: smbtree returns nothing while trying to call it
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> nitesh: is the home folder owned by its own user?
[15:51] <rlw980> hhhzzzarn: No I don't I only have one on me
[15:51] <const_antine> My prev. employers had nfs netdrives deployed throughout the network
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> sayers: on both systems?
[15:51] <nitesh> Yes it is...
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> const_antine: http://wdtvforum.com/main/index.php?topic=5393.0
[15:52] <sayers> ActionParsnip: wait to test it on my 2nd pc
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> nitesh: you can press CTRL+ALT+F1 and log in there then run:   sudo chown -R $USER:$USER $HOME     to be sure.
[15:52] <hhhzzzarn> rlw980: well, we are stuck then. You need to find the problem first (your usb, or ubuntu os or usb port on your computer).
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> const_antine: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=smb+vs+nfs   source :)
[15:53] <rlw980> hhhzzarn: Can't I run a program to find out the problem
[15:53] <hhhzzzarn> rlw980: go to dashboard, and search for "disk" or "disk utility"
[15:54] <rlw980> hhhzzzarn: Yeah
[15:54] <sayers> ActionParsnip: Quote "session request on that system failed"
[15:54] <Bustacap> Anyone know if gta4 works through wine decently yet?
[15:54] <hhhzzzarn> rlw980: well i am not on ubuntu right now, so I can not guide step by step. But, check if your usb device is listed on the left hand.
[15:54] <Bustacap> Before I download 15gb I want to see :P
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> Bustacap: check the appdb
[15:55] <Bustacap> What is the link to that?
[15:55] <Bustacap> If you have it on hand, otherwise I'll google.
[15:55] <cfhowlett> !wine|Bustacap:
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> Bustacap: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=appdb   too hard?
[15:55] <Bustacap> Lol
[15:55] <Bustacap> Ty.
[15:55] <sayers> ActionParsnip: I can see which folders are shared , but failing to execute smbtree on both systems
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> Bustacap: even the most basic search brings it up
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> Bustacap: try searching a little rather tahn asking for link handouts
[15:55] <Guest36540> Hi, I have a problem with my Ubuntu. When I reboot sometimes my keyboard does not work any more, only another reboot fixes the problem. Can anyone help me with this pls? Thx
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> sayers: tried a reboot on the server?
[15:56] <Bustacap> I always get mixed reviews on things from websites, I like to ask a real person that has tried it.
[15:56] <Guest36540> running 12.04 initially, but upgraded to 12.10, notebook is a toshiba satellite
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> Bustacap: that is thecentral point where people state if apps / games will work or not
[15:56] <bencc1> what folder a server should use for user uploaded files such as avatars?
[15:56] <bencc1> /var/myserver/???
[15:56] <nitesh> ActionParsnip: Thanks, solved my problem :-)
[15:56] <Bustacap> ActionParsnip, k.
[15:56] <sayers> ActionParsnip: I did a reboot and even set new user and password
[15:57] <OerHeks> Bustacap, gta4 isn't free to download, so can't help.
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> nitesh: do you run commands like:  sudo nautilus    ?
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> oh well
[15:57] <hhhzzzarn> rlw980: click on the different list items on the left to find the device that matches the usb, and press "mount". If your usb s not listed, then it is not picking it up.
[15:57] <Bustacap> OerHeks, I own the game, my cd is just scratched bad.
[15:57] <rlw980> hhhzzarn: sucessfully fixed and the OS is picking my USB Back up
[15:58] <cfhowlett> !cookie|hhhzzzarn:
[15:58] <sayers> ActionParsnip: I got SSH server installed on my 2nd pc , but when I try to connect from my mint the server is asking me for username and password which I didn't set and don't know how to do that.
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> Bustacap: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=8757   seems to be a silver rating
[15:58] <rlw980> ubottu: Hello
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> sayers: its your Ubuntu username and password which you log in with
[15:58] <Bustacap> ActionParsnip, I just got to that same page :P
[15:59] <sayers> ActionParsnip: okay pal, will try it
[16:00] <sayers> ActionParsnip: Access denied
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> sayers: the account you use is the one on the system you are connecting to, not the one you use in Mint (unless they are identical)
[16:00] <JuJuBee> I am looking for a portable mp3 player that works well with Rhythmbox and allows the transfer of Playlists as well as songs.  Any suggestions other than iPod?
[16:01] <hhhzzzarn> rlw980: ubuttu is a bot
[16:01] <sayers> ActionParsnip: port 22 right ?
[16:01] <rlw980> hhhzzzarn: Oh, right
[16:01] <rlw980> hhhzzzarn: You have fixed my USB FOR ME =D
[16:01] <hhhzzzarn> !cookie | cfhowlett
[16:01] <Guest48970> hello all
[16:02] <hhhzzzarn> rlw980: I am glad you solved your problem and learned something :)
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> sayers: by default, yes
[16:02]  * cfhowlett always send the customers away with smiling.
[16:02] <rlw980> hhhzzarn: PayPal
[16:02] <cfhowlett> Guest48970: greetings
[16:02] <thefroyo> Do we have information whether somebody is working on getting back indicator support for evolution?
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> cfhowlett: that could be read 2 ways ;)
[16:02] <sayers> ActionParsnip: I am connected to it on port 22 , huge thank you pal!
[16:02] <cfhowlett> ActionParsnip: no comment
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> sayers: ayyy, you also have an SFTP server too, same credentials and such
[16:03] <sayers> you mean filezilla ?
[16:03] <eamon> Filezilla is a client.
[16:04] <adrianmn> Hi all. I have a problem installing ubuntu under virtualbox on windows. It only wants to run on laptop mode at bad resolution. I googled this and I can't find a fix. Anyone know how to fix this?
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> sayers: nautilus can connect to sshfs
[16:04] <eamon> can someone run this command and tell me what happens? "sudo rm /etc/sudoers"
[16:04] <llutz_> !danger
[16:05] <llutz_> !ops | eamon
[16:05] <hhhzzzarn> eamon: you evil person.
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> sayers: you only need filezilla in windows and so forth, Ubuntu is decent and has the functionality in the file browser
[16:05] <sayers> ActionParsnip: I managed the filezilla with protocol SFTP as you said
[16:05] <Myrtti> eamon: nothing good happens.
[16:05] <Pricey> eamon: Lets not do that again thanks :)
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> sayers: nice, nautilus can do it too but if you prefer Filezilla then go nuts :)
[16:06] <sayers> :D
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> sayers: that is also secure
[16:06] <blackshirt> eamon, you greats man but with a lot of stupidity
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> sayers: so if you port forward port 22 on the router you can access your data from anywhere
[16:06] <sayers> ActionParsnip: Thank you for the kind answers
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> sayers: just use your WAN IP (you can see that from http://www.ipchicken.com)
[16:07] <rtiko> ping
[16:07] <BluesKaj> eamon, don't try that again or you'll have trouble
[16:07] <sayers> iwconfig do the same :)
[16:07] <Danon> so ubuntu is saying my drives have bad sectors is that a bad thing or is that normal?
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> sayers: not if you are behind a router
[16:08] <hhhzzzarn> danon, it is not normal.
[16:08] <sayers> I am and I can see what is my gateway and current ip
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> Danon: the drive is dying, I suggest you run a full backup and replace soon
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> sayers: does it start with 192 by any chance?
[16:08] <hhhzzzarn> danon, run the smart test using "Disk" or "Disk Utility"
[16:08] <sayers> 192.168.1.100 ( i set it from my router website)
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> sayers: that is your internal IP. There are millios of 192 networks, nearly all home grade routers use that IP address
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> sayers: if you try to connect to that IP from OUTSIDE your network it won't work
[16:09] <hhhzzzarn> sayers: go to google and type: whatismyipaddresss
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> sayers: you need the WAN IP and connect to that, using port forwarding you can tell the router to push the data to 192.168.1.100 and you will get the connection
[16:09] <sayers> The computer which I tried to access is which is giving me internet with bridge/d connection between wifi and ethernet
[16:10] <hhhzzzarn> sayers: then you will see your external ip.
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> hhhzzzarn: or www.ipchicken.com
[16:10] <sayers> I can access my 2nd pc with ssh and filezilla
[16:10] <adrianmn>  I have a problem installing ubuntu under virtualbox on windows. It only wants to run on laptop mode at bad resolution. I googled this and I can't find a fix. Anyone know how to fix this?
[16:10] <adrianmn> www.myip.dk
[16:10] <llutz_> adrianmn: did you install guest-additions?
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> hhhzzzarn: or:    IP=`wget -q -O - http://ip.keithscode.com`; echo $IP
[16:11] <adrianmn> yes i installed it
[16:11] <adrianmn> restarted and still not fixed
[16:11] <hhhzzzarn> adrianmn, laptop mode is option of virtualbox or ubuntu?
[16:11] <adrianmn> ubuntu
[16:11] <adrianmn> it is in ubuntu settings
[16:11] <adrianmn> at display
[16:11] <adrianmn> cant change screen resolution
[16:11] <adrianmn> it tells me it is laptop mode
[16:11] <hhhzzzarn> adrian, really? I never saw it, which ubuntu version?
[16:12] <adrianmn> last one
[16:12] <adrianmn> .10
[16:12] <hhhzzzarn> adrian: did you install the graphic driver if you have one?
[16:12] <hhhzzzarn> .
[16:12] <adrianmn> how do i do that?
[16:12] <adrianmn> i have onboard graphic
[16:12] <llutz_> hhhzzzarn: thats what the guest-additions do
[16:12] <sayers> ActionParsnip: my 2nd computer has ip of 192.168.10.3 and this (mint pc) have 192.168.1.100 . I am receiving internet from wifi antenna and bridge that internet to ethernet cable to 2nd router which is right behind me and this 2nd router is connected to my mint system
[16:13] <hhhzzzarn> adrianmn, just like llutz said: thats what the guest-additions do
[16:13] <danon_> the bad sector count is the same as current pending sector count
[16:13] <adrianmn> already installed that.
[16:13] <llutz_> hhhzzzarn: adrianmn in hist case: should do*
[16:13] <llutz_> his
[16:14] <bjrohan> Can anyone here help me with codecs? I am having issues converting videos with ffmpeg and of course gui's that use it
[16:14] <adrianmn> anything else i can try?
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> adrianmn: you can use an xorg.conf to set the res
[16:14] <adrianmn> how can i debug this problem
[16:14] <adrianmn> where is the file located?
[16:15] <hhhzzzarn> search engine that. :D
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> adrianmn: its not there by default but if you make one it will be obeyed
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> adrianmn: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=777759
[16:15] <aiFrantz> bjrohan : mind if u xplain in detail? I managed to convert videos with ffmpeg
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> adrianmn: you will need to run:  gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf    to get write access
[16:16] <pkkm> Is there any difference between /usr/share/terminfo/x/xterm+256color on Ubuntu and /usr/share/terminfo/x/xterm-256color on other distros?
[16:16] <adrianmn> does that command also create the file?
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> adrianmn: 1024x768 should be big enough for a virtual system
[16:16] <bjrohan> Thank you aiFrantz. I have an ogv file, if I try to convert via command line I get errors (I don't know if I am giving correct commands, this is my first time), and when I use a GUI such as FFWIN, or KDenlive, I get messages regarding my libx264 unsupported codec (I have libx264-123)
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> adrianmn: yes, when you click save the file will be created with the text you set
[16:16] <adrianmn> i plan to use it for development so need good full screen resoluition
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> adrianmn: then change the res in the file.
[16:18] <Dako300_> I have a Belkin USB-Ethernet adapter that only works with Ubuntu. There are no working drivers for Windows 7. I need to get the device through VirtualBox so it can connect to Ubuntu but that just doesnt seem to work (via a Windows 7 host).
[16:19] <aiFrantz> ActionParsnip : sorry for being late but which package that you use to run the VM? I want to fully utilize the Intel's VT-D. Hints are OK :)
[16:19] <hhhzzzarn> dako300_: your computer does not have ethernet port? (just asking)
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> Dako300_: once you get the device working in Win7 the Ubuntu guest will see it and treat it as a wired connection. Until it is working in the host, the guests cannot use it
[16:20] <adrianmn> do i need to restart after i save the xorg file?
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> aiFrantz: I've used virtualbox in the past. I don't know what "Intel's VT-D" is but all I can say is try it
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> adrianmn: yes
[16:21] <voyager2> i vant to install linux on grub4dos mounted virtual drive
[16:21] <voyager2> is there any success story about this  ?
[16:21] <Dako300_> MyPC has an ethernet port but that is used for Windows 7 networking and the VM has to have an internal IP address on the network
[16:21] <adrianmn> Could not apply the stored configuration for monitors
[16:22] <adrianmn> docment emtpy or contained whitespace
[16:22] <ubuntu_mint> hi, anyone know any good programming channel?
[16:22] <Dako300_> ActionPartnership:That sucks...
[16:22] <aiFrantz> ActionParsnip: OK then. I'll proceed it by myself. Intel's VT-D if I'm not mistaken, it gives fully access to VM to use all physical resource from the hardwares if the bios and the hardwares themselves support this
[16:22] <sayers> Dako300_: Navigate to Network on Virtualbox and use bridge connection
[16:22] <vitimiti> I use the xfce desktop, when i use the fn key to change volume and toggle mute/unmute, the notification that shows it is doing it correctly appears, but the volume itself won't change. Any idea on how to fix it?
[16:22] <sayers> Dako300_: or just simply NAT
[16:23] <hhhzzzarn> ubuntu_mint: ask that on ubuntu development :) or offtopic.
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> aiFrantz: i see, I don't virtualize much at all. My OS does what I need
[16:23] <Dako300_> I just need the server to have internet
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> Dako300_: well, your support for Win7 sucks.
[16:23] <sayers> then set the Network on VM to use NAT
[16:23] <aiFrantz> ActionParsnip: Haha, OK then.
[16:23] <Dako300_> I cant use the built in ethernet because it is bridged and the Win& host cant get internet
[16:24] <Dako300_> ok
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> Dako300_: as its a USB wii device, which are cheap. You could go buy a new one with Win7 support and it will work
[16:24] <Dako300_> ok
[16:24] <hhhzzzarn> vitimiti, i am on xubuntu, let me try
[16:26] <joseph-soares> how do I enter in Alternate Mode in 12.10?
[16:27] <vezq> joseph: I think alternate mode was removed in 12.10?
[16:27] <hhhzzzarn> ubuntu_mint, search google, you are bound to find a page that someone suggested.
[16:28] <sayers> It's weird that he don't got internet on bridged computer. I just tested my 2nd pc with bridged wifi and ethernet to virtualbox slitaz machine and the pc has internet... weird Dako300
[16:28] <BluesKaj> joseph-soares, are talking about alternate install cd/usb or iso ?
[16:29] <hhhzzzarn> ubuntu_mint :(
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> sayers: don't have    or:   haven't got     don't got is poor grammar
[16:30] <sayers> becuz English isn't my first language ^^
[16:30] <hhhzzzarn> vitimiti, my keyboard control disables the volume and the indicators shows, i am on xubuntu (xfce)
[16:31] <vitimiti> mine shows the indicator but the volume won't change
[16:31] <gustav__> Couldn't get a driver from Realtek to compile and stabilize my WLAN, like some of you suggested before, the driver is for kernels earlier than my version. Any other suggestions?
[16:31] <jfries> Hello! I'm experiencing some problems while upgrading from ubuntu 10.04 to 12.04 using the Update Manager. It made it all the way through the installation process, to the point where it asked me to reboot my machine, at which point it starts to boot up. It then says "The disk drive / is not ready yet or not present. Continue to wait; or Press S to skip mounting and M for manual recovery".
[16:31] <jfries> If I press S it then says /tmp is not ready, and then UUID=<long id string> is not ready, and then it hangs and doesn't finish booting up.
[16:31] <hhhzzzarn> not everyone have to speak english.
[16:31] <jfries> If instead of hitting S, I hit M then it prints the message "Root file system check failed" and starts up a maintenance shell. According to online help here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udev/+bug/753853, I think I need to remount? I run the following "mount -n -o remount,rw /" which seems to make / writeable (before running that I can read but not edit the files in /).
[16:31] <FloodBot1> jfries: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:31] <jfries> So far, so good. According to that thread, I now need to run 'sudo apt-get upgrade -f'. I try running it and I get a bunch of messages like "could not resolve 'archive.ubuntu.com'". OK, so there is some kind of network problem. I know the network is up because I can access it via other computers. I can't even ping IP addresses, so it's not a DNS problem.
[16:31] <jfries> ahh, crumbs, sorry FloodBot!
[16:31] <vitimiti> hhhzzzarn, i have put y the preferences of xfce4-mixer the analog card too, but still
[16:31] <jfries> ok, I'll try again
[16:33] <hhhzzzarn> jfries, you have internet connection?
[16:33] <jfries> @hhzzzarn: the network is up, but for some reason the machine won't connect to it, hence I can't upgrade
[16:34] <sharperguy> anyone got any idea why my mouse doesnt work when i plug it in (usb)? In dmesg it shows up ok
[16:34] <jfries> even when I plug in the cable directly
[16:34] <neure> hi
[16:34] <hhhzzzarn> hi
[16:35] <neure> how do i see if i have packages with *foo* in their name installed?
[16:35] <hhhzzzarn> jfries, that is what I meant, when executing the command, does your computer have internet connection. It seems not.
[16:35] <llutz_> neure: dpkg -l '*foo*'
[16:35] <jfries> hi hhhzzdarn! yeah, it doesn't connect
[16:35] <fairuz_> Out of curiosity, is it possible to move my whole Ubuntu installation to a new hard disk?
[16:36] <jfries> (but take into account this is from the maintenance shell, so something has gone wrong ahead of time)
[16:36] <llutz_> fairuz_: yes
[16:36] <bazhang> fairuz_, make a disk image of it? sure
[16:36] <sayers> What is stopping you from doing fresh installation instead upgrading ?
[16:36] <hhhzzzarn> jfries, i can not help you, maybe someone more experienced in that area can.
[16:36] <fairuz_> llutz_ So I can just rsync the old disk with the new one and change the mount point of / ?
[16:36] <llutz_> fairuz_: yes, you have to change UUID for / and rewrite grub
[16:37] <jfries> ok, thanks anyway hhhzzzarn
[16:37] <rumba> how would i go about securing ubuntu to host LAMP for other users?
[16:37] <hhhzzzarn> jfries, if you just worried about your files, you can run a live cd, resize your ubuntu partition and save your data on another parition. Then fresh install.
[16:37] <fairuz_> llutz: Oh didn't think of grub. Grub work with UUID too?
[16:38] <hhhzzzarn> rumba, did you search google for a guide?
[16:38] <llutz_> fairuz_:  you have to write into the MBR of the new disk to boot from it
[16:38] <rumba> hhhzzzarn: yes, i did, but the results i get are on how to use php if you use a shared hosting and offers of php shared hosting
[16:38] <jfries> the files aren't a huge deal, but I was hoping there was some way to complete the upgrade
[16:38] <rumba> maybe i don't know how to phrase the query properly?
[16:40] <jfries> right now the problem (as I perceive it) is that I am not able to run apt-get update because it can't connect to the network. so I am treating this like a network configuration problem, and once I fix that I'll go back to worrying about finishing the upgrade
[16:40] <hhhzzzarn> rumba: http://blog.al4.co.nz/2011/05/setting-up-a-secure-ubuntu-lamp-server/
[16:40] <hhhzzzarn> rumba: could help direct you atleast :) (search keywords for further direction)
[16:40] <mankeletor> rumba, try to find httpd.conf file in /etc/
[16:40] <compdoc> jfries, thats sounds like the correct way to proceed
[16:41] <rumba> hhhzzzarn: i think that's exactly what i needed
[16:41] <fairuz_> llutz_: So basically I need to install / move grub to the new disk right?
[16:41] <jfries> @compdoc: so, I don't think network manager is even running in this maintenance shell, b/c when I run "ps aux | grep Network" I don't see any result
[16:42] <jfries> so, if NetworkManager isn't running, and /etc/network/interfaces doesn't contain an entry for eth0, then it seems like it won't be able to connect to the network, no?
[16:42] <llutz_> fairuz_: yes, copy your filesystems, change /etc/fstab for the new UUIDs and then rewrite grub using chroot or live-cd
[16:42] <BluesKaj> jfries, correct
[16:42] <mankeletor> ps aux | grep httpd
[16:43] <fairuz_> llutz_: Oh. Using live cd seems easier. :) Thanks for the help.
[16:43] <compdoc> jfries, pastebin.org this output: ifconfig  and: cat /etc/resolv.conf
[16:44] <jfries> @menkeletor: I think that was addressed to me, right? I ran 'ps aux | grep httpd' and it doesn't show anything.
[16:44] <jfries> @compdoc: in progress, just a moment
[16:45] <compdoc> I like how you elevate me to Op
[16:45] <jfries> @compdoc, I don't need paste bin for the output b/c there is virtually none. ifconfig doesn't return *anything* and cat /etc/resolv.conf just has one line "#Generated by Network Manager"
[16:45] <jfries> @compdoc: what is Op?
[16:45] <pyrosquirrell> Ok I can't not ask anymore. I've been working on getting this to work all weekend to no prevail. When using Ubuntu my mouse refuses to work. I can move the mouse around and click on programs on the sidebar, but other than that, the mouse won't click on anything. And occasionally, the keyboard will just stop taking input. I have installed 11.10, 12.04 and 12.10 and none of them seem to fix my problem. I guess that the problem i
[16:45] <pyrosquirrell> e it seems to be the only thing that I haven't been able to configure. I've followed many tutorials online, and no matter what I do, nothing seems to fix it. Does anyone here have any suggestions for me?
[16:45] <compdoc> jfries, what does this show:  sudo ifconfig
[16:45] <neure> i updated virtualbox and now my guest additions dont work and i cant reinstall them :(
[16:45] <neure> http://i.imgur.com/U8gRm.png
[16:45] <neure> any ideas?
[16:46] <jfries> @compdoc: sudo ifconfig also shows no result
[16:46] <compdoc> jfries, is this a computer or a virtual machine, or what?
[16:46] <BluesKaj> pyrosquirrell, have you tried any other mice and KBs ?
[16:47] <pyrosquirrell> I have yes, and to no prevail
[16:47] <jfries> @compdoc: this is a physical machine sitting right in front of me. It worked fine until I upgraded :(
[16:47] <sayers> when you run "lspci" can you see your ethernet device
[16:47] <hhhzzzarn> pyrosquirrell, that could mean the problem is not the version of ubuntu.
[16:47] <hhhzzzarn> pyrosquirrel, what computer do you have?
[16:47] <pyrosquirrell> hhhzzzarn: That's why I presume it to be a graphics card problem
[16:48] <BluesKaj> jfries, what do want to do run with or without network-manager?
[16:48] <pyrosquirrell> Specs: rampage 2 extreme motherboard, radeon hd 5870, i7 920, 9GB of ddr3 ram
[16:48] <hhhzzzarn> pyrosquirrel, have you searched your computer model and this issue, others might have had the same problem.
[16:48] <hhhzzzarn> you got powerfull desktop :)
[16:49] <pyrosquirrell> hhhzzzarn: Thanks :) Not really a model I can search though :(
[16:49] <jfries> @BluesKaj: I don't' have a strong preference. I've been using network-manager in the past, sometimes getting annoyed at it. I'd rather learn how to handle things from the command line rather than relying on an applet, if that can be recommended.
[16:49] <pyrosquirrell> I have tried searching for anything I can find on the graphics card though
[16:49] <graingert> jfries: ip addr show, not ifconfig it's deprecated
[16:50] <neure> what device is cdrom ?
[16:50] <jfries> @graingert: that returns some results, I'm putting it into paste bin now
[16:50] <danon_> i have a nvidia gforce 210 graphics card on my computer and the res is 800x600 and i tried to change it to 1024x768 because i use a 50 inch tv and it got stuck searching for signal
[16:50] <graingert> neure: it's a Compact disk read only memory - or optical storage
[16:50] <neure> i meant which /dev
[16:51] <graingert> neure: why?
[16:51] <llutz_> neure: /dev/sr0 most likely
[16:51] <t4b> I'm searching the name of a program which does backups and saves disk space using hard links
[16:51] <neure> graingert, see this: http://i.imgur.com/U8gRm.png
[16:51] <sayers> mine dvd rom is in the main /dev/
[16:51] <graingert> neure: wired ask in #virtualbox?
[16:51] <neure> eject /dev/sr0 did the trick, thanks!
[16:52] <neure> graingert, they werent able to help
[16:52] <graingert> neure: well, strange
[16:52] <neure> basically i did not see /dev/sr0 when i typed mount
[16:52] <llutz_> t4b: rsnapshot
[16:52] <neure> still, eject /dev/sr0 allowed me to proceed to install guest additions
[16:53] <BluesKaj> jfries, command line isn't necessary , /etc/network/interfaces , and  /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head (which writes to /etc/resolv.conf ) , can handle most network management , with network manager removed from the pc.
[16:53] <neure> so i guess linux can lock device without mounting it
[16:53] <t4b> llutz, just found it, I mean storeBackup, but now I'll look at rsnapshot too :-)
[16:53] <neure> and eject can unlock those devices
[16:53] <t4b> *meant
[16:53] <neure> is there a way to see list of such locked devices?
[16:54] <graingert> neure: lsof ?
[16:54] <unityman> jfries: look I setup Arch Linux Manually... Software is not going to make difference if system doesn't see ethernet card.  Soft just to establish a connect.
[16:55] <jfries> sorry for the delay, here is the result of ip addr show: http://pastebin.com/BFEtVCFQ   (had to type it manually from one screen to the other)
[16:56] <jfries> @BluesKaj: in etc/NetworkManager/nm-system-settings.conf it says [ifupdown] managed=false  so does that mean that network manager is already disabled? if not, how do I disable it
[16:58] <foxy999> Is it possible to copy a virtualbox virtual machine to another computer?
[16:58] <BluesKaj> jfries, not sure because i just remove network manager from my pc.
[16:58] <jfries> @unityman: I'm not sure I understand your last sentence: "Soft just to establish a connect". Is Soft a program I can run?
[16:58] <joseph-soares> BluesKaj, Yes, I know that it's all in one DVD, but how do I boot as Alternate mode. I mean, without graphics envronment
[16:58] <theadmin> foxy999: Sure. You can use the export feature if you prefer to make it easy.
[16:58] <theadmin> foxy999: Or you can just copy over all the files from the VM's directory.
[16:59] <BluesKaj> joseph-soares, I think you choose the text-mode , if available
[16:59] <bazhang> !nox | joseph-soares
[16:59] <robbie> how can I see the mounted filesystems without including virtual ones like /proc?
[16:59] <foxy999> theadmin, awesome thanks
[16:59] <jfries> @graingert: just wanted to make sure you saw, I have the results of 'ip addr show' here at paste bin: http://pastebin.com/BFEtVCFQ  It looks like it *can* see eth0 and eth1, which is a relief
[17:00] <jfries> now to figure out why it isn't connecting to them
[17:00] <theadmin> jfries: Putting @ in front of the name actually nullifies the purpose. Many clients won't highlight the name with weird characters in front. Please don't do that.
[17:00] <dams010> #Serial_Us@irc.otaku-irc.fr
[17:00] <jfries> theadmin: thanks, didn't know that (I used to use an irc system where you were supposed to do that)
[17:01] <unityman> Software just establishes connection either manual or nm-applet or kdeplasma-network-manager are just auto uplink, dhcpd and connection to encryption software with auto forwarding.. Nothing more
[17:01] <litropy> Hi, all. Anyone know why dmesg is being flooded by ath module errors, e.g. Unable to reset channel, reset status -22; see paste for more: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1312817/
[17:02] <jfries> unityman: that makes sense. it does look like the system is aware of my ethernet card(s). for some reason it's not *using* them though
[17:02] <theadmin> jfries: What are you doing to connect?
[17:02] <BluesKaj> jfries, sudo dhclient eth0
[17:03] <theadmin> jfries: Normally this is enough: sudo ip link set eth0 up ; sudo dhclient eth0
[17:03] <BluesKaj> bbl...stuff to do
[17:03] <ItsAllGoneWierd> hi guys, im trying to understand something bout ip-addresses..  what does these three numbers mean: "192.168.0.0/16 10.0.0.0/8" ? External and internal ip-address? And what about the "8"?
[17:04] <jfries> theadmin, BluesKaj: ok, running those commands now
[17:04] <vimes> Hello Ubuntu, I need to install Ubuntu but what should I use to write the iso to a flash drive? unetbootin is giving me problems...
[17:04] <jfries> BluesKaj: thanks for your help during the time you had!! :)
[17:04] <vimes> I'm on Crunchbang (just a reskin of Debian)
[17:05] <Umeaboy> vimes: Use dd.
[17:05] <Umeaboy> man dd
[17:05] <vimes> ok
[17:05] <Linuxuser> how do I tell what version of xubuntu I am using?
[17:05] <calmpitbull> i wanna install Ubuntu on my desktop but i am puzzled about what to install 32 bit or 64 bit. I have i7 and 6 ram so i need to know what would run better. Cuz some post are saying that 64 bit is not so good??
[17:05] <bazhang> !version > Guest65312
[17:06] <Umeaboy> calmpitbull: It depends on how old the PC is.
[17:06] <Guest65312> calmpitbull depends on if your computer is 32bit or 64bit. if you don't know go with 32bit
[17:06] <unityman> ItsAllGoneWierd: primary networks! but not the subnet system... means no Ip to 192.168 network or it would look like 192.168.1.1 or 192.168.0.1 t0 127
[17:06] <Umeaboy> But I'd prefer 32-bit.
[17:06] <Bustacap> cat /etc/issue.net
[17:06] <Umeaboy> That's me thou.
[17:06] <Bustacap> That'll tell you the version.
[17:06] <Guest65312> if you have tons of ram and you know your computer is 64bit then go with the 64bit version
[17:06] <Bustacap> Or lsb_release -a
[17:06] <fortysevener> See what the worlds most innovative consultancy uses for IT
[17:06] <fortysevener> http://www.speedyshare.com/3SP9Q/download/Bain.and.Company.zip
[17:06] <theadmin> calmpitbull: 64-bit. If you have more than 3GB RAM it's always suggested to go with 64bit because 32-bit systems can't operate sanely with any more than 3.6 or so GB RAM
[17:06] <bazhang> !ot | fortysevener
[17:07] <Talyan> HI everyone!
[17:07] <jfries> theadmin: 'sudo ip link set eth0 up' completed without output. 'sudo dhclient eth0' has a bunch of complaints "can't create /var/lib/dhcp3/dhclient.leases: Read-only file system", etc. It can't write to /etc or /var, I guess those aren't mounted correctly? as i mentioned earlier in this thread, I ran 'mount -n -o remount, rw /" to mount /, but I guess /etc and /var are mounted to differently? investigating
[17:07] <Guest65312> also how do i make my dock stay visible all the time?
[17:08] <Guest65312> on xubuntu 12.04
[17:08] <calmpitbull> theadmin: that is what i was thinking but there are some threads that are saying that is not so good on 64 bit?
[17:08] <theadmin> jfries: That space after "remount" is unnecessary...
[17:08] <theadmin> jfries: mount -o remount,rw /
[17:08] <theadmin> calmpitbull: Old situation, honestly. A few years ago (around 2008) one might have had problems with 64-bit setups, but hardly anymore.
[17:08] <unityman> jfries: possible conflicting card just came to mind usually we unmount and remount phyiscally as well as software
[17:09] <jfries> theadmin: sorry, i only typed the space here, i actually entered it correctly :P
[17:09] <Guest65312> Does anyone know how I can make my dock always visible in xubuntu?
[17:09] <theadmin> jfries: Oh, okay.
[17:09] <theadmin> Guest65312: Panel settings, panel 2, uncheck "Autohide". The "dock" is actually an ordinary Xfce panel
[17:10] <jfries> unityman: it's a laptop, so not completely trivial to crack open, but I'll give it a try if we can't solve it from the command line
[17:10] <calmpitbull> theadmin: thx that is it i am gona do it, 64bit is my new install
[17:11] <unityman> jfries: srry thought this was a desktop with dual ethernet
[17:11] <ItsAllGoneWierd> unityman, sorry.. did not understand that.. lol
[17:11] <ItsAllGoneWierd> unityman, i wondered what the three numbers was.. the IP is hypoteticaø
[17:11] <ItsAllGoneWierd> unityman, i wondered what the three numbers was.. the IP is hypotetical
[17:11] <danon_> can you over ride the xserver to load in 800x600 before booting ubuntu?
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> danon_: you can set res in /etc/default/grub  maybe, run:  sudo update-grub    after editting
[17:12] <unityman> ItsAllGoneWierd: well it would actual look like network 192.0.0.0  which is 192.255.255.254 just means how many networks you could divide into
[17:15] <unityman> ItsAllGoneWierd: but a company that would own that many ip addresses form 10.255.255.255 would be ISP and a system with 192.168.0.0 is network that inside a network behind a router and router handles access to internet and divides bandwidth.
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> unityman: thats a huge subnet, damn
[17:15] <danon_> im at the bootloader now do i go to comand line?
[17:16] <ItsAllGoneWierd> unityman, ok. i should explain what i am doing :) This is a nmap example for command: "nmap -v -sn 192.168.0.0/16 10.0.0.0/8" I dont understand the IP address :)
[17:16] <unityman> ActionParsnip: In Coast Guard we hand that many computers and routers, but that was military for you
[17:16] <unityman> ActionParsnip: could see the whole network no need..
[17:17] <unityman> ItsAllGoneWierd: what you taking cisco?
[17:17] <jfries> theadmin: ok, so one possible question now is why is /etc and /var not writeable, i think.  I ran 'mount' and typed the result into paste bin here: http://pastebin.com/CCYBQuRb
[17:17] <ItsAllGoneWierd> unityman, i watched Eli the computer guy's video on the TCP/IP Protocol,  so i have a vague idea off it :)
[17:17] <ItsAllGoneWierd> unityman, nope, just messing around
[17:18] <jfries> theadmin: it's complaining that /etc/mtab is not writeable, not sure if that's significant
[17:18] <Zx432> Hi
[17:18] <theadmin> jfries: I suppose that's because of "errors=remount-ro" in your line, that is, it fails to mount the filesystem read-write and mounts it read-only
[17:19] <unityman> ItsAllGoneWierd: need to find network caculater to see computers on that big of network will help you understand the basics...
[17:19] <ItsAllGoneWierd> unityman, i am going to network admin school in january, so im preparing for that, actually.. trying to get the basics
[17:19] <ItsAllGoneWierd> unityman, does the "8" mean the numbers of subnets?
[17:20] <Zx432> I have my sidebar set to autohide. But when I move my mouse to the side nothing happenes. I checked the sensitivity settings but they do nothing.
[17:20] <jfries> theadmin: ok, I guess that means we need to modify fstab? I'm retyping the contents of fstab into a paste bin now
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> unityman: how do you mean 'military for you'?
[17:20] <theadmin> jfries: Nah... You'll want to boot from a livecd and fsck your filesystem.
[17:21] <unityman> ItsAllGoneWierd: Its bit beyond the basics.. Going into Cisco Router Config for cret. Network + AND Cisco nwa and CNWA
[17:22] <unityman> ActionParsnip: Military can use as many ip address as they like... Could knock us all off line and don't pay few for ip addresses. Government can take what they want
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> unityman: I doubt that, I'm sure people paying for IPs and so forth would object and sue heavily
[17:23] <jfries> theadmin: ok. this is the first time I've done anything with a livecd. I guess it's a dvd I have to burn and then insert during boot up? googling for instructions now
[17:23] <theadmin> jfries: First time? You used a livecd to install Ubuntu firsthand (unless you've used the alternate or minimal CDs)
[17:24] <jfries> theadmin: nope, I ordered this laptop from Dell with ubuntu preinstalled years ago (it's been a great laptop!). never had to learn how to actually install ubuntu from scratch (although I look forward to learning how)
[17:25] <unityman> ActionParsnip: In time of War military can use all ip addresses, but Not necessary... Generally speaking Government gives money for usage or we would cause or economy to bankrupt...
[17:25] <unityman> or -our
[17:26] <litropy> Hi, all. Anyone know why dmesg is being flooded by ath module errors, e.g. Unable to reset channel, reset status -22; see paste for more: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1312817/
[17:26] <unityman> ActionParsnip: We were paying At&t $9 a minute for satellite..
[17:26] <litropy> It's a constant, continual thing from bootup to shutdown ...
[17:27] <bazhang> !ot | unityman
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> unityman: I'm very sure the military will use IPv6 which gives 515,579,343,819,603,73,252,026,455,671 per PERSON on the planet. Youo are talking rubbish
[17:27] <bazhang> ActionParsnip, lets move on please, too
[17:28] <unityman> ActionParsnip: srry I would chit chat ,but this is a help channel..
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> unityman: i think you should check your facts. Lets move back to support
[17:29] <bazhang> unityman, thats enough.
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> litropy: are there lots of SSIDs on the same channel
[17:31] <Gaming4JC> Anyone know of a Google Earth alternative that can load MODIS maps? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MODIS#Availability  (Trying to see real-time weather data) :)
[17:32] <Gaming4JC> Marble Virtual Globe is pretty nice but no overlays it seems
[17:32] <napalm54> I am on Ubuntu 12.10, I was wondering what AMD drivers should be used for a Radeon HD 7xxx series video card, any help?
[17:32] <Gaming4JC> Earth3D looked perfect but all the data appears dead. :/
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> !ati | napalm54
[17:33] <theadmin> napalm54: You can use the Hardware Drivers tool to find the drivers for your card if any are available.
[17:33] <theadmin> napalm54: Err, Additional Drivers.
[17:33] <napalm54> Yea, I tried installing the fglrx drivers, through additonal drivers in the software updater, but that caused many problems.
[17:35] <kevin_> hi all. so i just bought an SSD, so i want to move my / partition over to it. SSD size is less than my current / partition's allocated space, but is big enough to hold all the files. Can i just create a partition on the SSD and then copy all the files over (maybe with 'cp --preserve=all'..?) , then swap the drives? would that work?
[17:35] <Gaming4JC> NVM found out you can load xml data in Earth3D, looks like the way to go
[17:37] <unrar> Hi!!
[17:37] <unrar> I need a stable desktop for working and programming, 12.04.1 or 12.10?
[17:38] <bjrohan>  I need serious help. I installed ffmepg via the instructions here (because it wasn't working via ppa): https://ffmpeg.org/trac/ffmpeg/wiki/UbuntuCompilationGuide which seems to install ffmpeg to my home directory, now my programs can not find it (even command line bash: /usr/bin/ffmpeg: No such file or directory). How do I install to /usr/bin??
[17:38] <gim_> unrar: 12.04.1, it's more stable for a moment
[17:38] <napalm54> unrar: 12.04.1 is the best bet.
[17:38] <neure> after updating vbox my ubuntu is really, really slow
[17:38] <neure> any ideas?
[17:38] <neure> i did reinstall guest additions
[17:38] <gener1c> hey , how do i set a default program to open a file when its not in the rightclick list?
[17:38] <fairuz_> bjrohan: You can add a symbolic link.
[17:38] <neure> how do i check that they work?
[17:38] <danon_> ubuntu is saying /dev/sda1: unexpected inconsistency run fsck manually it says it also contains a file system with errors
[17:39] <newbie|2> ciao
[17:39] <theadmin> danon_: Then run fsck on /dev/sda1 from a livecd.
[17:39] <newbie|2> \list
[17:39] <bjrohan> fairuz, I am new to Linux (am learning though I know what a sym link is, ln -s) but how to do it exactly please
[17:39] <unrar> Woops, weird internet
[17:39] <unrar> Let me read
[17:40] <jfries> theadmin, unityman et al: thanks for your help! I'm going to go act on theadmin's advice to create a livecd, might take awhile so just wanted to thank everyone who helped, since they might not be online when I get back
[17:40] <unrar> Ok, then the LTS will be :)
[17:40] <unrar> And what flavour of Ubuntu do you recommend me?
[17:40] <theadmin> unrar: 12.04 is LTS, meaning it's more stable and will get longer support. 12.10 has tasty new features.
[17:40] <unrar> Again, I need a stable desktop for working and programming
[17:40] <bjrohan> fairuz_, I am new to Linux (am learning though I know what a sym link is, ln -s) but how to do it exactly please
[17:40] <theadmin> unrar: Well, what OS are you coming from and what are your system specs?
[17:40] <unrar> Let me tell you
[17:41] <theadmin> unrar: Just need the RAM amount honestly, heh
[17:41] <unrar> I've been on Ubuntu 11.04 and 11.10, Kubuntu 11.10, Xubuntu 12.10, Fedora 17, OpenSUSE, Arch, Debian, actually on Mint 13 Cinnamon and Kubuntu 12.10
[17:41] <unrar> I have 3GB RAM
[17:41] <unrar> KDE 4.9 runs smooth... well, could run a bit more smooth
[17:41] <unrar> Intel Core 2 Duo @ 2GHz...
[17:41] <theadmin> unrar: Well... I suggest using Xubuntu (it has a more classic Ubuntu taste, like 11.04 if you liked that) or Kubuntu.
[17:41] <unrar> and NVIDIA 9300M GS
[17:41] <fairuz_> bjrohan: you can do something like this. $ sudo ln -s ~/path/yo/the/ffmepg /usr/bin/ffmpeg
[17:42] <unrar> Well, I've been messing a bit with 12.04, and I liked Unity
[17:42] <unrar> Just that it wasn't very stable
[17:42] <theadmin> unrar: Unity is fairly new, Canonical's working on it :) Go with Xubuntu in the meantime
[17:42] <unrar> KDE is stable, but I really don't like it so much, although I think Mint KDE is better than Kubuntu
[17:42] <unrar> I really like Mint 13 with Cinnamon or MATE...
[17:43] <unrar> And also tried LMDE, but I don't like pure Debian
[17:43] <theadmin> unrar: Cinnamon and Mate can be installed on Ubuntu although they're not officially supported
[17:43] <unrar> Well, I preffer having Mint things on Mint and Ubuntu things on Ubuntu
[17:43] <unrar> What do you use?
[17:43] <unityman> theadmin: whats the support on Gnome3??? I'm using Unity works ok I plain to use cairo with Unity
[17:43] <theadmin> unrar: I'm on Kubuntu 12.04, works awesomely for me
[17:44] <theadmin> unityman: Unity is just an alternative shell for Gnome 3.
[17:44] <unrar> as Cinnamon
[17:44] <theadmin> unityman: Plain Ubuntu comes with gnome3 + Unity
[17:44] <unrar> That's good
[17:44] <unrar> But I don't know, maybe Mint KDE is a bit better, or what?
[17:44] <bazhang> !ot | unrar
[17:44] <theadmin> unrar: Mint's not supported here so I'm not saying you anything about that
[17:44] <bjrohan> fairuz_:  ffmpeg is in /home/bjrohan/ffmpeg directory and the executable of course is ffmpeg, so for the link I enter: sudo ln -s ~/ffmpeg/ffmepg /usr/bin/ffmpeg ?
[17:45] <unrar> woops
[17:45] <fairuz_> bjrohan: Yes
[17:45] <bjrohan> fairuz_:  OR do I enter sudo ln -s ~/ffmpeg /usr/bin/ffmpeg
[17:45] <unrar> I actually have Kubuntu and Mint
[17:45] <unrar> I don't know how to use really haha
[17:45] <theadmin> bjrohan: No, you link to the binary, not the folder
[17:45] <bazhang> unrar, thats enough
[17:45] <bjrohan> thanks fairuz_
[17:45] <fairuz_> bjrohan: the first one
[17:45] <edgy> Hi, I added a "Mobile Broadband" Connection in NetworkManager, now how can i connect?
[17:46] <unrar> That's on topic?: Will Canonical close some code at 13.04?
[17:46] <bazhang> unrar, no. chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:46] <Zx432> Could somebody tell me why the sidebar won't show for me if I set it to autohide?
[17:46] <theadmin> unrar: No. Ubuntu will never become closed source. ALL parts of Ubuntu are completely open. That's a part of the Ubuntu Promise.
[17:46] <bjrohan> fairuz_:  I did and here is what I get
[17:46] <bjrohan> bjrohan@bjrohan-MM061:~/Videos$ ffmpeg -i VideoTute#1.ogv -sameq VideoTute#1.mov
[17:46] <bjrohan> bash: /usr/bin/ffmpeg: No such file or directory
[17:46] <unrar> Sorry bazhang
[17:47] <bazhang> unrar, /join #ubuntu-offtopic and discuss
[17:47] <bjrohan> fairuz_: what I entered for the link is: sudo ln -s ~/ffmpeg/ffmepg /usr/bin/ffmpeg
[17:47] <fairuz_> bjrohan: Make sure your spelling si correct
[17:48] <fairuz_> *is
[17:48] <fairuz_> You typed ~/ffmpeg/ffmepg or ~/ffmpeg/ffmpeg?
[17:48] <bjrohan> fairuz_: DUH
[17:49] <danon_> now im getting a gpu lockup
[17:49] <danon_> if yall need more info i will type it
[17:50] <danon_> because i did c-a-f1 then c-a-bs because ubuntu froze but i could still move the mouse
[17:50] <jean_> look for a Network activity program to show the 2 monitors when talking to the network??
[17:51] <jean_> Any Ideas?
[17:51] <unityman> theadmin: can i just do a sudo apt-get install gnome3 ??
[17:51] <ZEROF> Hi people, any good tut how to use Launchpad ?
[17:51] <theadmin> unityman: That'd be "gnome-shell", not "gnome3"
[17:52] <unityman> roger from in unity
[17:52] <kevin_> is there a way i can list all the packages installed on my system?
[17:52] <square> howdy
[17:52] <kevin_> nm, should have googled first
[17:53] <square> i just installed 12.04 and activated the nvidia driver, now i get a blank screen when i boot into ubuntu. i can boot into the recovery menu to get to a shell prompt. how can i go back to the built in driver like this?
[17:54] <ZEROF> square: just remove drivers
[17:54] <square> I'm not sure how to do that
[17:54] <bjrohan> fairuz_: It apparently worked, it at least tried to run, but gave error messages while converting a file: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1312997/
[17:56] <ZEROF> square: This is how you can install them : http://pastebin.com/36sQaPxT
[17:56] <NikP> How can I use "People nearby" in Ubuntu 12.10?
[17:56] <fairuz_> bjrohan: I have no knowledge in ffmpeg. Sorry.
[17:56] <bjrohan> Thanks for helping on the symlink!
[17:56] <theadmin> NikP: With Empathy, surely, doesn't that come preinstalled?
[17:57] <NikP> theadmin: Yes, but in Ubuntu 12.10 I can't see it.
[17:57] <NikP> theadmin: It's installed, but I can't use it
[17:57] <theadmin> NikP: Uh... Open Dash, type "Empathy", click the result that comes up and looks sane?
[17:58] <ksbalaji> Help with dpkg config problem : http://pastebin.com/sau1h3Xf
[17:58] <ZEROF> square: check - http://askubuntu.com/questions/170562/removing-all-traces-of-nvidia-drivers
[17:58] <NikP> theadmin: Yes, but I can't use people nearby.
[17:58] <square> ZEROF: i all righty. I'm going to try the configuration stuff from the first link and see if that fixes it first
[17:58] <theadmin> NikP: Oh okay. I'm on 12.04. I also have no idea what the People Nearby thing actually is so...
[17:58] <square> then i'll try the second one if it doesnt
[17:58] <Golfgeo> Hi all
[17:59] <NikP> theadmin: I use it often in my Network.
[17:59] <ksbalaji> Golfgeo: hi.
[17:59] <Golfgeo> Is there an msn client for ubuntu that does support a webcam?
[17:59] <skorpion> hi hab problem vidalia läuft unter debian 6.05 einwandfrei aber unter kubuntu irgendwie nicht ?
[18:00] <ksbalaji> skorpion: Typo?
[18:01] <skorpion> mom schrift zu klein muss erstmal kurz editieren lol
[18:01] <NikP> Has anyone other an answer for this problem?
[18:01] <theadmin> Golfgeo: Either amsn or emesene (can't remember which, maybe both)
[18:01] <theadmin> !de | skorpion
[18:02] <Golfgeo> theadmin: emesene doesn't (checked it 30 min ago) and amsn had install issues +- 6 months ago haha
[18:03] <theadmin> Golfgeo: Oh...
[18:04] <Golfgeo> theadmin: I'll perhaps give amsn another go, but doubt it will work hmm
[18:04] <theadmin> Golfgeo: Well it's not in the repos so I dunno
[18:04] <ksbalaji> I am on a live usb which I created struggling for a week. Now, It does not update well. For example, initramfs-tools and udev - http://pastebin.com/sau1h3Xf . Can someone please guide?
[18:05] <Golfgeo> theadmin: not in the repos anymore? k, another issue to figure out haha :)
[18:05] <alusion> what's a good way I can quickly visualize network traffic?
[18:05] <Golfgeo> msn is the only thing I miss since switching to ubuntu
[18:06] <theadmin> ksbalaji: You can't upgrade on a liveusb...
[18:06] <Golfgeo> virtualizing it just doesnt work all that well...
[18:06] <theadmin> Golfgeo: Well you may be able to run WLM in Wine, I dunno
[18:06] <Golfgeo> will check it out
[18:06] <Golfgeo> Thanks theadmin :)
[18:07] <ksbalaji> theadmin: After googling a bit, I created a partition called casper-rw ext4 where changes are retained. It started working for most updates. Then started trouble.
[18:07] <canaima> marditaseaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa q verja es esta
[18:08] <alusion> I installed a new WM, how do I go to it?
[18:08] <theadmin> alusion: Do you mean a desktop environment (Gnome, KDE, Xfce)?
[18:09] <canaima> mamenme el pipe toditos ustedes hijoooossssssssss de putaaaaaaa
[18:09] <ksbalaji> I have to resort to this usb OS thingy since I tinkered with testdisk and crashed my HDD. Now trying again thru liveusb. - I need to update for a functioning testdisk!
[18:09] <jennie> how do i defrag ubuntu ?
[18:09] <theadmin> jennie: You don't need to.
[18:09] <bazhang> !es | canaima
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> jennie: you don't need to
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> jennie: there is a defrag tool for ext4 but its not necessary
[18:10] <ksbalaji> jennie: I do not think that files in ext2,3,4 are fragmented. Is it so theadmin ?
[18:10] <magn3ts> How on Earth does one just manage to start Weston?
[18:10] <jennie> which is that tool ?
[18:10] <magn3ts> I can't find any information on how to use it, but pleeeenty of info on PPAs and other random nonsense.
[18:11] <theadmin> jennie: You don't *need* to defrag. Ubuntu is not Windows and extFS is not NTFS. Why do you think you need to defrag?
[18:11] <michealPW> How do I change the gtk+2 theme? Everything for GNOME seems to be themed to look like KDE's menus hehe :\
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> jennie: http://polishlinux.org/apps/cli/ext4-defragmentation-with-e4defrag/    I bet you gain nearly zero, if anything at all
[18:11] <theadmin> michealPW: You can use lxappearance for a desktop-independent GTK theme changer.
[18:11] <michealPW> Ah cool, thx theadmin!
[18:12] <magn3ts> theadmin: wow nice tip indeed
[18:12] <magn3ts> theadmin: thank you!
[18:12] <theadmin> magn3ts: What tip? I didn't give you any tip...
[18:12] <magn3ts> the one you just gave michealPW
[18:12] <michealPW> I am using Ubuntu 12.04 with LXDE, XFCE (XUbuntu-desktop), GNOME 3, and KDE 4 (KUbuntu-desktop) installed, hehe.
[18:12] <theadmin> magn3ts: Ah okl
[18:12] <jennie> I need to do some temp files cleaning studd, registery cleaning stuff, that I use to do in windows to make it fast, anything like that in ubuntu ?
[18:12] <magn3ts> theadmin: seriously, you have no idea how happy you've made me :)
[18:13] <magn3ts> theadmin: I thought most of this was lost with gnome3 even with gnome-tweak-tool
[18:13] <gordonjcp> jennie: there's not really any need for it
[18:13] <michealPW> So maybe that app will be perfect for me, 'cause with my account, I switch between DE 'cause I'm still finding which one I like the best, the themes get all inconsistent and broken easily haha and I get confused as to how to fix it
[18:13] <bondj> hi
[18:13] <jennie> ok
[18:13] <bondj> i get the following problem: E:Encountered a section with no Package: header, E:Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/de.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_precise-proposed_main_i18n_Translation-de, E:The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[18:13] <bondj> what can i do to fix this?
[18:14] <theadmin> bondj: run sudo apt-get clean followed by sudo apt-get update
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> jennie: is your OS slow?
[18:15] <simplew> is there a way to mirror the  imagem that appears in cheese or in kamoso? this way my right hand apepars as being the left one....
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> bondj: wget https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/fixpackage; chmod +x ./fixpackage; sudo ./fixpackage
[18:16] <n0sq> MonkeyDust: i don't want to complicate things for the wife since she's not computer savvy. so i'll have to find a way to make things work until they can get the bug worked out in amsn
[18:16] <michealPW> With lxappearance, when I'm in the Widget tab no matter what theme I select it seems to show the same preview, looking like KDE :|
[18:17] <m3-pearl> no
[18:18] <michealPW> Oh wait
[18:19] <ActionParsnip> bondj: I don't know what causes it. I just know the fix :)
[18:19] <michealPW> nevermind, hehe I think it's working. Thx very much, theadmin. Exactly what I was looking for! :)
[18:19] <unrar> Question: 12.10 is slower with NVIDIA graphics. I have a Geforce 9300M GS. Should I install them, or stay with Nouveau?
[18:19] <unrar> And what driver should I download?
[18:20] <litropy> ActionParsnip, re: ssids: checking now.
[18:21] <myst3rious> Hello
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> unrar: which driver does nvidia-settings say you have?
[18:21] <m3-pearl> hiiii
[18:21] <m3-pearl> anyone there
[18:22] <ksbalaji> I am on a live usb which I created struggling for a week. Now, It does not update well. For example, initramfs-tools and udev - http://pastebin.com/sau1h3Xf . Can someone please guide?
[18:22] <myst3rious> I have a netbook, would it be better to keep Windows 8 or to install Ubuntu?
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> m3-pearl: nobody at all
[18:22] <theadmin> m3-pearl: This channel is extremely active most of the time. Just ask your question.
[18:22] <theadmin> myst3rious: ...You're in an Ubuntu channel.
[18:22] <michealPW> myst3rious: You can install both, and dual boot :)
[18:22] <tensorpudding> myst3rious: do you want ubuntu or do you want windows 8
[18:22] <theadmin> myst3rious: Anyway, Ubuntu has a pretty friendly interface for netbooks nowadays so go with that
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> myst3rious: if ubuntu fits your needs, use it
[18:23] <myst3rious> theadmin: Ubuntu does run faster than Windows... And most metro apps don't run on 1024x600
[18:23] <tensorpudding> if you decide you want ubuntu you should back up your windows 8 in a way that you can restore it easily, though
[18:23] <allquixotic> Is there a PPA containing *stable* updates to upstream open source graphics drivers (libdrm, mesa, DDX) for 12.10? Ubuntu-X is only for 12.04, but 2.20.9 intel ddx is older than the 2.20.12 that's out now
[18:23] <litropy> ActionParsnip, no.
[18:24] <unrar> ActionParsnip, I installed the recommended one
[18:24] <unrar> the current, and also tested current-updates
[18:24] <ActionParsnip> unrar: what does nvidia-settings say the version is?
[18:24] <unrar> Both of them made my Unity have lots of glitches
[18:24] <unrar> I don't have it installed now
[18:24] <Aminux> is it normal for a live cd to run faster than a new installation ?
[18:24] <unrar> I also tried the experimental driver and it worked decently
[18:24] <ActionParsnip> litropy: try disabling ipv6
[18:25]  * Bustacap is away: Smoking my broken cigarette.
[18:25] <litropy> ActionParsnip, ipv6 is enabled; disabling ...
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> allquixotic: https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa?field.series_filter=quantal
[18:25] <Aminux> every live cd i try runs way smoother than a new install...
[18:26] <Aminux> weird
[18:26] <[TiZ]> Hi. I'm on Xubuntu 12.10, and as with all versions of Xfce's useless power manager, nothing happens when I unplug the power from my laptop or plug it back in; namely, my screen brightness doesn't change. What's the recommended way to get this working nowadays? I used to use laptop-mode-tools. Should I still be using that?
[18:26] <Bustacap> I've never had a live cd run good.
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> litropy: I do it with the boot option:  ipv6.disable=1
[18:26] <Aminux> telling you man
[18:27] <Kroach> how can I make a certain application(namely GIMP) always start maximized?
[18:27] <compaqo> i installed 12.04 on a Compaq Presario 061 and can not shutdown my PC. I mean if i click on System - Shutdown  the PC does not power off. I encounter the same problem if  as root i execute : shutdown -h now . In those two scenarios, the system halts but does not power off so i have to press the power button on the PC to shut it down. Can anyone help me?
[18:27] <litropy> ActionParsnip, rebooting; will be back
[18:28] <Aminux> beginning to think all i need is a live usb or cd and a spare drive for storage
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> Kroach: there is devilspie (and gdevilspie for config) to make windows act as needed
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> Aminux: sounds like a possibility
[18:30] <peppo> hi. any twoftpd users here? if I want to change session timeout, is the right place to add session variables at line 2 of the "run" script? i.e. SESSION_TIMEOUT=5400 for example?
[18:30] <nubu> i need a little bit of help, i cant access my files on my windows 7 partition. I have lubuntu 12.10, and ntfs-3g is installed. every time i attempt to open my hard drive, a window pops up asking me to choose an application.
[18:30]  * Bustacap is back (gone 00:05:25)
[18:30] <theadmin> !away > Bustacap
[18:31] <ZEROF> nubu you want to transfer files from win to ubuntu ?
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> nubu: did you install Ubuntu using wubi?
[18:31] <nubu> yes i did install using wubi
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> nubu: then yourNTFS is already accessible (this is the ONLY god thing about wubi imho)
[18:32] <nuB-AeZed> ALo
[18:32] <nubu> then how do i access my files
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> nubu: in a terminal run:  ln -s /host ~/Windows     and you can access your data from the link in your home folder
[18:33] <litropy> ActionParsnip, $ cat /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/all/disable_ipv6 # returns 1 (disabled). dmesg is clean thus far. Will monitor. Question: if this was in fact the issue, are you aware of the bug; is there a fix?
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> nubu: its not strictly necessary, just makes life tonnes easier
[18:34] <ActionParsnip> litropy: no idea, its just something I do. If you don't use something, why have it enabled? Makes the system more compact and precise
[18:34] <nubu> ActionParsnip: You rock
[18:34] <thesadmafioso> hey I want to use wget command to download something from a cloud that I have to give user/pass to over SSL, can I do that
[18:34] <ActionParsnip> nubu: you can run a terminal by pressing CTRL+ALT+T
[18:35] <nubu> i already did it
[18:35] <nubu> im not that noobish
[18:35] <ActionParsnip> nubu: I've been around a while kiddo. You'll learn as you use the OS :)
[18:35] <nubu> thanks!
[18:35] <ActionParsnip> nubu: just covering the bases
[18:35] <thesadmafioso> ActionParsnip is now PneumaticTurnip
[18:35] <thesadmafioso> Har har.
[18:35] <thesadmafioso> Sorry . . . that was uncalled for.
[18:36] <litropy> ActionParsnip, issue seems to be resolved. Thanks for the help.
[18:37] <spacebarbarian> my os crashed and now i keep getting "faild to load session 'ubuntu'" tried some of the apt-get reeinstall fixes but it has no internet any idea how to fix that problem without netwrok access ?
[18:38] <piero> I have Ubuntu 12.10 and my gimp is running very slow, especially if I try to navigate in the menu bar, like try to resize a layer or something like this. I use fglrx video driver. What can I try?
[18:38] <danon_> wow for some reason all my desktop installs of ubuntu are screwing uo
[18:38] <danon_> up
[18:38] <n0sq> looks like empathy won't work for hotmail since there's no msn plugin
[18:39] <danon_> first gpu errors now hard drive errors and even with a hdd that i know is good it might be my crappy sandisk U3 drive
[18:39] <codered> euh
[18:40] <codered> ya du monde dit donc
[18:40] <codered> ya quelqu'un?
[18:40] <thesadmafioso> grrr lost connection
[18:40] <codered> booorik t la?
[18:41] <ejo> !lang
[18:41] <ejo> !fr
[18:42] <thesadmafioso> I want to use wget command to download from a server that requires username/pass over SSL, is that possible?
[18:43] <ubuntu_mint> Anyone know what glibc is used for?
[18:44] <thesadmafioso> ubuntu_mint: glibc (7)            - Overview of standard C libraries on Linux
[18:44] <theadmin> ubuntu_mint: For *everything*
[18:44] <theadmin> Well, if we're being brief. It's the core library pretty much all Linux apps use.
[18:44] <thesadmafioso> ubuntu_mint: lol what theadmin said. It looks to be a big overview of all the C programming language libraries for whatever distro you're using
[18:46] <gordonjcp> thesadmafioso: pretty much
[18:46] <unityman> ubuntu_mint: Library primarily used for kernel. Most all apps needing C language.
[18:46] <gordonjcp> ... which is pretty damn near everything, one way or another
[18:46] <thesadmafioso> theadmin: hey isn't Python based on C ?
[18:46] <theadmin> thesadmafioso: The official Python compiler (CPyhton) *is* written in C
[18:47] <allquixotic> All known programming environments depend on glibc... Java, Ruby, bash, Python, Vala, C++, Mono, etc... they all use the C library eventually
[18:47] <theadmin> Well, compiler/interpreter/runmyscriptthing
[18:47] <tapee> thesadmafioso: it's usually implemented in C, but there's also python-in-python on top of little c
[18:47] <allquixotic> without glibc they'd have to bang on the kernel syscalls directly, which are too platform dependent
[18:47] <ActionParsnip> allquixotic: even machine code?
[18:47] <thesadmafioso> theadmin: ah ok
[18:47] <ubuntu_mint> I asked because in Cryptography we study that glibc has a major security flaw; something about using a Diffie Hellman method for encryption. Does that make any sense to anyone? Is there really a major security flaw, or that may have been the case many years ago?
[18:47] <tapee> allquixotic: certainly not _g_libc
[18:47] <thesadmafioso> so, does anyone know about using wget with a server that requires username/pass
[18:47] <allquixotic> ActionParsnip: I said programming environments, which implies userspace programming. Nobody writes machine code. That's not a programming environment.
[18:48] <allquixotic> tapee: any C library that's compatible, is what it comes down to. Is tiny libc compatible? uclibc? eglibc? bionic? It depends on the application. Chances are, if it's compiled for glibc/eglibc, it probably uses symbols or functionality that won't work without porting to other C libraries.
[18:49] <thesadmafioso> I'm trying to grab stuff off a cloud with a continuous download using wget
[18:49] <thesadmafioso> ah hell with it
[18:49] <thesadmafioso> nighty night folks
[18:49] <unityman> ubuntu_ what encryption can look at Arch Linux packages to see what its dependency are and additions?
[18:49] <allquixotic> Certainly a *compiled* program that's linked against glibc or one of its binary-compatible forks is going to *probably* break if you sit a very old glibc or a non-glibc-based C library underneath it.
[18:50] <theadmin> unityman: Arch packages aren't encrypted in any way, they're plain xzipped tarballs... Look at the .PKGINFO file inside them
[18:50] <ubuntu_mint> So can I assume the theory of weak encryption is outdated?
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> allquixotic: there is a fair bit of machine code in the kernel
[18:50] <allquixotic> ubuntu_mint: it would depend on the specifics of what you mean about something using DH. Is it a flaw in the DH implementation? Is it a flaw in that DH itself is inherently insecure? Without specifics...
[18:51] <ubuntu_mint> Its inherantly insecure
[18:51] <fairuz_> Is it possible to ungroup opened application in Unity?
[18:51] <robbie> how can I fully reset my system's networking? Ive been having problems and trying to diagnose and I think the config is hosed now
[18:51] <allquixotic> ActionParsnip: I'm talking about *userspace* applications. The kernel doesn't (can't!) depend on glibc because it's in userspace and you can't link to userspace symbols in the kernel. But the kernel sources contain assembler, which is not the same as machine code.
[18:51] <unityman> theadmin: NO, miss understood I look at AUR to see dependencies and required packages to see what its supporting..
[18:51] <fairuz_> e.g 2 opened terminals will show two terminal icons
[18:52] <theadmin> unityman: Oh... So you want something similar for Ubuntu? That'd be http://packages.ubuntu.com
[18:52] <Passwordproblem>  Hello, I have a problem with password: I set it to 'disabled' but terminal and other programs ask it sometimes. Is there a default password or can I reset it somehow?
[18:52] <ActionParsnip> allquixotic: but then machine code must be written by someone, and you said nobody writes it.....
[18:52] <wilee-nilee> Passwordproblem, Why would you run without a password?
[18:53] <ActionParsnip> Passwordproblem: reboot to root recovery console and you can unstick yourself there
[18:53] <allquixotic> ActionParsnip: nobody does write machine code anymore. Assemblers generate machine code. Since we already have a ton of computers working that already have working compilers and assemblers, the way it works nowadays is, someone writes a "cross-assembler" in C that assembles machine code for another CPU using an existing computer.
[18:53] <unityman> theadmin: look at dependencies to read what is supported and what packages are associated. Gives me understanding of what apps. could cause loop holes in security...
[18:53] <marcus> YO, anyone know (plz?) how to load VSTs in LMMS? "Cannot load library /usr/lib/lmms: (/usr/lib/lmms/: cannot read file data: Is a directory)"
[18:53] <gordonjcp> allquixotic: that's not particularly true
[18:54] <allquixotic> ActionParsnip: for example, if I invented a new processor today that's incompatible with x86, I could use my Ubuntu on 64-bit computer to write a cross assembler for my new CPU. The assembler would be written in any high level language I want (C, Java, C++, whatever) and *generate* machine code.
[18:54] <ActionParsnip> allquixotic: i see, wasn't looking for a fight or anything, just curious and stuff
[18:54] <ActionParsnip> allquixotic: thanks :)
[18:54] <allquixotic> I don't know of anyone who still writes machine code by hand.
[18:54] <gordonjcp> allquixotic: then you must have very little exposure to software development
[18:54] <ubuntu_mint> Since Diffie Hellman encryption can be reversed using ciphertext-only attacks, that encryption system is insecure. Therefore, if glibc and all that its used for is protected under DH encryption system; it makes all those insecure. If they use a different encryption system, then they maybe much more secure. Thats what my question is about.
[18:54] <ActionParsnip> allquixotic: we did it in Uni on flight board with MARC 7800 CPUs. to learn about low level programming
[18:55] <marcus> YO, anyone know (plz?) how to load VSTs in LMMS? "Cannot load library /usr/lib/lmms: (/usr/lib/lmms/: cannot read file data: Is a directory)"
[18:55] <fhspenom3> hello all
[18:55] <allquixotic> gordonjcp: Rather than making an (extremely false) assumption about my experience, why not cite a reference for your claim that people actually write _machine_ code by hand today (not to be confused with assembler)?
[18:55] <fhspenom3> my xfce 4 panel cant minimize.
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> allquixotic: not sure if I spelt it right, its some low end CPU of a few Mhz at most
[18:56] <fhspenom3> maybe because work in open gl?
[18:56] <ActionParsnip> fhspenom3: did you add the window list item to the panel?
[18:56] <fhspenom3> YES
[18:56] <gordonjcp> allquixotic: it just depends what you're working on
[18:56] <allquixotic> ActionParsnip: doing it for the purposes of learning is a very different activity from doing it in order to "get stuff done". Academic purposes is implicitly excluded in any discussion about what's done in industry.
[18:56] <marcus> YO, anyone know (plz?) how to load VSTs in LMMS? "Cannot load library /usr/lib/lmms: (/usr/lib/lmms/: cannot read file data: Is a directory)"
[18:57] <ubuntu_mint> Machine code by hand? Would take huge amounts of paper and time. Writing 8 bits for study purposes is all we ever do in uni.
[18:57] <gordonjcp> allquixotic: something like 75% of the software I develop is written in assembler, and at that I end up working in straight machine code a lot of the time because it's just easier
[18:57] <gordonjcp> allquixotic: your life depends on some of that software
[18:57] <fhspenom3> window list removed. Panel minimized right now. thanks ActionParsnip  :*
[18:57] <fhspenom3> <3
[18:58] <ActionParsnip> fhspenom3: well thats arse-about-face but if it works who cares :)
[18:58] <ActionParsnip> fhspenom3: glad you got the gold
[18:58] <marcus> grrrrrrrrrrrrrr i never get help here:{
[18:58] <allquixotic> gordonjcp: Wow, OK. Embedded devices with no RAM and such? RTOS? Even for that kind of environment I'd think an assembler would be "just easier" than hand-coding it.
[18:58] <fhspenom3> :) i'm megginer in xfce, early use only kde
[18:58] <gordonjcp> allquixotic: have you ever seen The Matrix?
[18:58] <unityman> ubuntu_mint: agreed ,but glibc and gcc both support kernel and both are using C and C+ language.. So look to see how much is written in kernel and get understanding for explots
[18:59] <allquixotic> gordonjcp: That's called fiction.
[18:59] <unityman> ubuntu_mint: gcc 4.7 supports new code for memory buffer to support graphics in Unity..
[19:00] <piero> why my gimp works very well alone, without the unity desktop environment, just with metacity window manager and is very, VERY slow when running on unity?
[19:00] <ActionParsnip> unityman: is it also useful to those that don't run Unity?
[19:00] <gordonjcp> allquixotic: you know the bit where Cypher is explaining the Matrix to Neo?
[19:01] <ActionParsnip> piero: maybe compiz is causing issues
[19:01] <gordonjcp> allquixotic: the bit where he says you don't even see the symbols any more, just blonde, brunette, redhead
[19:01] <gordonjcp> allquixotic: yeah, machine code gets like that
[19:02] <unityman> ActionParsnip: Agreed most of the 3d graphics in Gnome3, Cinnamon, Mate and Unity so one is no more responsible then the other GUI..
[19:02] <gordonjcp> allquixotic: although I agree assembler is far more common than writing stuff in raw machine code
[19:02] <Passwordproblem> actionparsnip what you mean with unstick wilee-nilee it didnt let me choose a '123' password so i just clicked disable it
[19:02] <Gorroth> h
[19:02] <Gorroth> hi
[19:02] <Gorroth> i just installed ubuntu 12.10, and the install went fine.  however, upon reboot, the monitors go into power saving mode after the BIOS POST and never resume
[19:03] <Gorroth> i have a radeon 5750 and 5770 in the machine, one for each monitor
[19:03] <allquixotic> gordonjcp: I would think that nobody in serious industry pursuits is writing machine code, unless it's just a few instructions during early tests of extremely early silicon, or in a silicon emulator... even during the very early stages of the manufacturing process of new chips...
[19:03] <piero> ActionParsnip, can I shut off all this beauty affects and get a system that just works ???
[19:03] <compaqo> i installed 12.04 on a Compaq Presario 061 and can not shutdown my PC. I mean if i click on System - Shutdown  the PC does not power off. I encounter the same problem if  as root i execute : shutdown -h now . In those two scenarios, the system halts but does not power off so i have to press the power button on the PC to shut it down. Can anyone help me?
[19:03] <fhspenom3> piero, try delete /temp
[19:03] <Gorroth> anyone else experiencing anything like this?  i also haven't installed the proprietary drivers yet... this is a fresh install
[19:03] <allquixotic> gordonjcp: and once you have a chip actually working and a stable ISA, it just seems like a big waste of time to write machine code instead of assembler. Just like it'd be a waste of time to write Ubuntu applications in assembler.
[19:04] <fhspenom3> Gorroth, you dont need drivers, in my case works all smooth
[19:04] <gordonjcp> allquixotic: oh, so you don't use media players?
[19:04] <Gorroth> my question is not about whether i need drivers
[19:04] <Gorroth> it's about the monitors going into power save after BIOS POST and not ocming back
[19:04] <allquixotic> gordonjcp: I've *written* media players. In C, Vala, Java, C#, that kind of thing. Media players don't use machine code. The closest you get is a few assembler routines here and there for inner loops in the sound processing pipeline, but media player applications themselves don't even handle that part.
[19:04] <fhspenom3> question: witch version of wine is best?
[19:04] <ActionParsnip> piero: you can disable effects, it may help. You can turn them off in ccsm
[19:05] <gordonjcp> allquixotic: you know that huge chunks of the codec libraries are written in assembler, right?
[19:05] <ActionParsnip> Gorroth: what video chip do you use?
[19:05] <gordonjcp> allquixotic: it's increasingly important as we move to low-power chips like the various ARM devices
[19:05] <ActionParsnip> fhspenom3: it depends on the apps you run. there isn't a single best anything
[19:05] <Gorroth> ActionParsnip: radeon 5750 and 5770
[19:05] <gordonjcp> allquixotic: for various reasons you can no longer expect to just throw CPU horsepower at the problem
[19:05] <Gorroth> one monitor on the 5750 and one on the 5770
[19:05] <allquixotic> gordonjcp: Yes, yes, I know, the codec libraries -- but saying "media players" means really media players. Find me a line of assembler or machine code in the Rhythmbox or Banshee sources. Maybe in libvorbis, or libsamplerate... but not in the actual *application*.
[19:05] <ActionParsnip> Gorroth: try the boot option:   nomodeset
[19:06] <gordonjcp> allquixotic: right
[19:06] <Gorroth> ActionParsnip: okay, i can try that
[19:06] <Gorroth> ActionParsnip: when i get home... oh, but how do i get myself into grub?  it likes to just boot up without showing a grub menu
[19:06] <gordonjcp> allquixotic: because there's no point sawing the handle off your toothbrush, if your rucksack frame is made of lead
[19:06] <fhspenom3> ActionParsnip, i just want to run photoshop cs4 and got some errors and program iminetly shut down :/
[19:07] <bjrohan> My sound was playing just fine on my Ubuntu 12.10 laptop. I was having issues with the installed ffmpeg from repo, so I uninstalled them, then reinstalled via commandline here:https://ffmpeg.org/trac/ffmpeg/wiki/UbuntuCompilationGuide Now my audio playback is garbled, any ideas why?
[19:07] <gordonjcp> allquixotic: still, with low-power devices like mobile phones and media players it's actually becoming more important to at least understand what your high-level code compiles to
[19:07] <allquixotic> gordonjcp: Gotta keep your terminology straight. Talk about the correct level of abstraction. It's blatantly obvious to everyone that software is built as a layered "stack" and that the things at the lower levels are... well, written in lower level languages. As I said, right tool for the right job. But when you say "media players", you mean Rhythmbox, not ffmpeg.
[19:07] <gordonjcp> allquixotic: got to squeeze every last drop out
[19:07] <LinuxGuy91> Kids, i made this new song using the latest release of Ubuntu Studio, thoughts? https://bitly.com/SPRHBO
[19:08] <ActionParsnip> LinuxGuy91: try in #ubuntu-offtopic please, this is support only
[19:08] <LinuxGuy91> ActionParsnip word
[19:08] <allquixotic> gordonjcp: Actually, libraries like ORC/liboil (optimized inner loops), combined with smarter compilers, have made it possible to codegen really high quality assembler for certain tight loops that are commonly done in multimedia, without writing assembler.
[19:08] <gordonjcp> allquixotic: we should be in #ubuntu-offtopic too
[19:08] <gordonjcp> LinuxGuy91: not quite to my taste, but sounds good
[19:09] <allquixotic> gordonjcp: What's easier: writing assembler for 12 different processors, or using a compiler with good codegen and writing C code that codegens to efficient inner loops (with hardware SIMD assist where available) without writing a single line of assembler in your codec?
[19:09] <Gorroth> allquixotic: of course, writing in asm for 12 diff procs
[19:09] <allquixotic> gordonjcp: Seems more and more that anything but compilers are learning how to avoid assembler without throwing performance out the window.
[19:09] <gordonjcp> allquixotic: we really ought to take this to #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:10] <allquixotic> Sure, feel free... but I'm going to context switch to another activity now anyhow. TTYL
[19:10] <ActionParsnip> allquixotic: looks like you opened a can of worms
[19:10] <gordonjcp> allquixotic: righto
[19:10] <Gorroth> ActionParsnip: since i can't actually get into my system at the console, how can i get into grub when it's booting up?  since Ubuntu is the only OS installed, it never gives me a chance to modify my grub commandline
[19:10] <gordonjcp> allquixotic: fwiw I'd say it depends on the result you're trying to achieve
[19:11] <ActionParsnip> Gorroth: hold SHIFT at boot
[19:11] <Gorroth> ActionParsnip: okay, will do that; thank you
[19:11] <simplew> i see that in cheese the webcam displays a video that is too bright/too much light, isnt there a way to use the windows webcam driver provided the webcam manufacturer in linux?
[19:12] <ActionParsnip> simplew: run:  lsusb    use the 8 character hex ID to find guides and/or bugs
[19:12] <simplew> ActionParsnip: im not understanding
[19:13] <bjrohan> I have garbled audio playback, anyone know where to start to find out why?
[19:13] <simplew> ActionParsnip: if i run lsusb i get too many entries
[19:13] <simplew> ActionParsnip: and i dont know which entry corresponds to webcam
[19:14] <alone> pp
[19:15] <derpsauce> Hello?
[19:15] <ZEROF> derpsauce: Hi
[19:16] <derpsauce> I just installed Ubuntu 12.10 and I was wondering if there was anything I had to know before doing anything; I'm new to Linux
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> simplew: read, one will seem like it, or if there is no text next to it, search for the 8 character hex ID
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> derpsauce: get fully updated
[19:16] <gener1c> hey , how do i set a default program to open a file when its not in the rightclick list?
[19:16] <king313> yes, get updated and, if it runs too slow, change to 12.04
[19:16] <derpsauce> I've done that, but is there any software I need to get?
[19:16] <king313> because 12.10 have some performance issues
[19:17] <graingert_> derpsauce: don't ever install anything not in a repository
[19:17] <king313> derpsauce, it depends on the use that you want to do to the system
[19:17] <derpsauce> I installed the Wubi 12.04 and I couldn't see my cursor.
[19:17] <graingert_> derpsauce: and don't add the debian repositories
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> derpsauce: depends on what the OS is for, you may want to install ubuntu-restricted-extras for lots of codecs (assuming it is legal for you to do so)
[19:18] <bjrohan> Does anyone know why videos online (youtube) the audio is fine, by videos played on my computer are garbled audio?
[19:18] <derpsauce> Again, I have no Linux knowledge. I grew up on Windows.
[19:18] <king313> bjrohan, they have some noise at start?
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> derpsauce: use software centre
[19:19] <king313> derpsauce, you will not need a lot of knowledge to use linux
[19:19] <mxo_o> hello
[19:19] <derpsauce> Okay, thanks!
[19:19] <mxo_o> How can I change my keyboard language to finnish?
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> king313: well, to use Ubuntu :)
[19:19] <bjrohan> king313:  What do you mean? I think perhaps it is my player, I opened saif local file in my Chrome browser and it played fine
[19:20] <king313> yes, I was thinking about Ubuntu but I wrote Linux
[19:20] <simplew> ActionParsnip: see this http://pastie.org/5128717
[19:20] <simplew> ActionParsnip: how do i know which one coresponds to webcam?
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> mxo_o: System> Preferences> Keyboard gets you the keyboard layout GUI.
[19:20] <king313> bjrohan, I wanted to know if they are garbled at beginning or all time
[19:21] <bjrohan> king313:  all the time
[19:21] <bjrohan> I am using dragon player
[19:21] <king313> then it's not the same issue that I had few weeks ago, sorry :(
[19:21] <derpsauce> ActionParsnip: How should I look for software etc. in Ubuntu? I don't know how to install other packages besides the ones offered in the Software Centre.
[19:21] <mxo_o> ActionParsnip it say's it finnish but it's not?
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> simplew: its the acer one, if you install guvcview do you see yourself ok?
[19:23] <danon_> king313> use synaptic package manger
[19:23] <king313> derpsauce, if you are beginning, use Software Centre
[19:23] <king313> you can use Synaptic too, like danon_ suggest
[19:23] <simplew> ActionParsnip: its not the acer one
[19:23] <linusasus6> Hi I would like to know wich version of ubuntu you recommend for a Toshiba Satellite A210, 8.04, 10.04, 12.04
[19:24] <king313> but it is not so newbie-friendly
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> derpsauce: run software centre and search for the package name, or in a terminal, run:   sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:24] <tontimer> Hi
[19:24] <king313> you can also download packages and install them by double clic
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> linusasus6: 12.04 imho as it is LTS
[19:24] <king313> but, Software Centre is the best option
[19:24] <ThinkT510> linusasus6: 8.04 is only supported on servers until april
[19:25] <ActionParsnip> simplew: every page I have come across has said it's that device
[19:25] <tontimer> now that MyUnity doesn't work on 12.10, how can I change the icon theme?
[19:25] <ActionParsnip> tontimer: gnome-tweak-tool
[19:25] <simplew> ActionParsnip: see this http://wstaw.org/m/2012/10/28/fotografia1.png
[19:25] <king313> derpsauce, if you want some software recommendation to do something, there is a lot of websites that tell you
[19:25] <tontimer> ActionParsnip: Ok ty :)
[19:25] <king313> the linux alternative of windows software (like http://www.linuxalt.com/)
[19:26] <king313> or you can simply ask here, but there will be a lot of discrepances because each one have his own opinion about what is the best software to do X
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> simplew: look at the bottom panel, next to the word 'type'
[19:26] <linusasus6> so you pretty sure that it will work perfectly on my Toshiba I know that kde really buggy on it and linux mint 13 and mageia 2 was not working well on it
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> simplew: looks like you need a udev rule to tell it that the device is a webcam, not a keyboard
[19:27] <tontimer> ActionParsnip:  what about ubuntu tweak?
[19:27] <tontimer> does it works on 12.10?
[19:27] <simplew> ActionParsnip: and that matches what apepars in lsusb acer line?
[19:28] <king313> tontimer, I tried it and It worked, but I was not happy with it
[19:28] <ActionParsnip> tontimer: https://launchpad.net/~kendfinger/+archive/ubuntu-tweak-trunk?field.series_filter=quantal
[19:28] <tontimer> king313: why?
[19:28] <king313> I used it to tweak some Unity behaviour, so then I tried to switch to MyUnity to find out that it's not available in 12.10
[19:29] <king313> there was one option that I wanted and did not worked
[19:29] <king313> but it was this one, not all the software
[19:29] <simplew> ActionParsnip:
[19:29] <simplew> :~$ lsusb |grep -i acer
[19:29] <ActionParsnip> simplew: yes, look atthe vendor and the product IDs
[19:29] <simplew> Bus 002 Device 005: ID 5986:0315 Acer, Inc
[19:29] <ActionParsnip> simplew: yes, look at your image
[19:29] <ActionParsnip> simplew: vendor = 5986    yes?
[19:30] <simplew> ActionParsnip: yes
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> simplew: so it IS the acer one, like I said
[19:30] <simplew> ActionParsnip: i dont get why it says its Acer...
[19:30] <simplew> i dont have any acer hardware...
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> simplew: because they have made the controller for your webcam
[19:30] <simplew> the webcam its Bison
[19:30] <simplew> ActionParsnip: ok so now whats my options?
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> simplew: it doesn't matter, the people who made the system bout some chips and used them, they identify as that
[19:31] <ActionParsnip> simplew: also every site I've seen says it too
[19:31] <simplew> ActionParsnip: yes ok, and now what cani do?
[19:31] <ActionParsnip> simplew: so why say that its not the acer one, when it is
[19:32] <ActionParsnip> simplew: what is the issue with the cam again, please?
[19:33] <simplew> ActionParsnip: in cheese the image apears too bright, too much light, in kamoso it appears more dark, in vlc doesnt appear nitid and with some fuzzy lines, and in windows runs okrunning any application, what can i do in linux to have it better?
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> simplew: ok let me search but why did you say that it's not the acer?
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> simplew: and what is the output of:  uname -a   please
[19:34] <simplew> ActionParsnip: because its a Bison webcam, my notebook doesnt have any hardware from acer, thats why i said that
[19:35] <simplew> ActionParsnip: Linux insys-W150HRM 3.5.0-17-generic #28-Ubuntu SMP Tue Oct 9 19:31:23 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[19:35] <ActionParsnip> simplew: cool
[19:35] <ActionParsnip> simplew: using Quantal ?
[19:36] <marcus> any1 know what to do with "make: lrelease: command not found" ?
[19:36] <simplew> ActionParsnip: yes
[19:36] <simplew> marcus: you need to isntall it
[19:36] <marcus> i know, but how?
[19:36] <ActionParsnip> simplew: this may help:  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:libv4l/development; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install v4l-utils
[19:37] <mantovani> ould not resolve 'br.archive.ubuntu.com'
[19:37] <mantovani> br.archive is off ?
[19:37] <simplew> marcus: sudo apt-get install qt4-linguist-tools
[19:37] <mantovani> mantovani@ubuntu:~/Perl$ host ubuntu.com
[19:37] <mantovani> ubuntu.com has address 91.189.94.156
[19:37] <ActionParsnip> mantovani: do you have web access?
[19:38] <wols> marcus: packages.ubuntu.com and you search for the lrelease program there
[19:38] <mantovani> why you guys have this anyoing bot ActionParsnip.
[19:38] <ActionParsnip> mantovani: 'could not resolve' doesn't mean its off, or you'd get a 404 when you tried to connect
[19:38] <ActionParsnip> mantovani: i'm not a bot
[19:38] <simplew> marcus: apt-file search lrelease
[19:38] <mantovani> sorry
[19:38] <wols> marcus: if it doesn't exist, then you find out what this program does and possibly rewrite the source code you have
[19:38] <simplew> marcus: and you will get which package has that binary
[19:38] <mantovani> ActionParsnip: humm
[19:38] <mantovani> ActionParsnip: let me check
[19:38] <ActionParsnip> mantovani: could not resolve means the name could not be reolved to an IP address
[19:38] <wols> simplew: apt-file is installed by default?
[19:38] <mantovani> I know that :)
[19:38] <ActionParsnip> mantovani: its a lot different
[19:39] <simplew> wols: no
[19:39] <mantovani> I'm using google DNS
[19:39] <marcus> i did aptitude search lrelease and it gives me no results, as well as the site ..
[19:39] <marcus> its a command
[19:39] <mantovani> can u resolve ActionParsnip ?
[19:39] <wols> marcus: yes. and that's why you go to packages.ubuntu.com. there you can search for it
[19:39] <marcus> i searched, no results..
[19:39] <ActionParsnip> mantovani: then its not off then, is it. You ust cant resolve br.ubuntu.com to an IP
[19:39] <wols> marcus: or you install apt-file if you want to
[19:39] <danon_> well that is just fanfreakin tastic
[19:39] <mantovani> ActionParsnip: not 4.2.2.4 and 8.8.8.8 DNS can ?
[19:40] <marcus> k i try apt-file
[19:40] <mantovani> so I think the problem ins't me.
[19:40] <ActionParsnip> mantovani: try:   echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf > /dev/null
[19:40] <simplew> ActionParsnip: help how? these are just tools, no drivers
[19:40] <mantovani> I already use it...
[19:40] <danon_> i updated the video driver to the nvidia one by software update now nothing shows up except the wallpaper
[19:40] <mantovani> ActionParsnip: Can u solve the address ?
[19:40] <ActionParsnip> mantovani: let me try
[19:40] <wols> marcus: I found lrelease. on packages.ubuntu.com. try harder
[19:41] <PP80> Hi, I have put '0 */6 * * * rsync -aq --delete rsync/rsync.torproject.org/tor/ /srv/www/mirror.gb.com/tor' in a crontab to start running a mirror for a website. Although after 24 hours nothing is located in that folder. What should I check first?
[19:41] <simplew> marcus: already told ya whats thepackage you need to install
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> mantovani: no, looks like the DNS is out, try switching to a different server
[19:41] <mantovani> ActionParsnip: what ?
[19:41] <marcus> i found with apt-file, thankyou:-]
[19:42] <marcus> bb
[19:42] <ActionParsnip> mantovani: I cannot resolve br.archive.ubuntu.com to an IP either
[19:42] <mantovani> ActionParsnip: I know...
[19:42] <mantovani> ActionParsnip: I'm asking what server I sweet ?
[19:42] <ActionParsnip> mantovani: so, change to a different server which works
[19:42] <ActionParsnip> mantovani: if you lose the br.   prefix, you will use the main server
[19:42] <PP80> Hi, I have put '0 */6 * * * rsync -aq --delete rsync/rsync.torproject.org/tor/ /srv/www/mirror.gb.com/tor' in a crontab to start running a mirror for a website. Although after 24 hours nothing is located in that folder. What should I check first?
[19:42] <mantovani> kk
[19:42] <j045> hi peeps
[19:43] <j045> nick j045
[19:43] <j045> whoami
[19:43] <wols> PP80: your mail
[19:43] <j045> help
[19:43] <wols> j045: what is your ubuntu related support problem?
[19:43]  * mantovani updating
[19:43] <PP80> wols: my mail?
[19:44] <wols> PP80: yes
[19:44] <mantovani> ActionParsnip: thanks.
[19:44] <PP80> wols: what do you mean? I don't have e-mail on this server
[19:44] <michealPW> Ubuntu offers mail? :)
[19:44] <wols> PP80: then your server is broken.
[19:44] <j045> sorry dude having a problem at the mo
[19:44] <mantovani> michealPW: google does.
[19:44] <mantovani> :)
[19:44] <ActionParsnip> mantovani: does it now work ok?
[19:44] <mantovani> let me check
[19:44] <michealPW> Google sux hehe
[19:44] <PP80> wols: huh? I have a rsync problem not mail problem
[19:44] <mantovani> michealPW: duckduckgo.com
[19:44] <ActionParsnip> michealPW: ubuntu members get an @ubuntu address :)
[19:44] <mantovani> ActionParsnip: updating
[19:45] <michealPW> I use duckduckgo :)
[19:45] <wols> PP80: no you have most probably a cron problem. and guess what cron does when it encounters a problem: it MAILS!
[19:45] <ActionParsnip> michealPW: me too
[19:45] <mantovani> duckduckgo++
[19:45] <michealPW> Ubuntu Members, what do you mean? Hehe I want an @ubuntu.com !
[19:45] <baggers> Is this the place for technical questions abou the nexus7 ubuntu build or is there a prefered room for that?
[19:45] <mantovani> I have an official tshirt from duckduckgo :P
[19:45] <ActionParsnip> michealPW: become a member and you'll get one
[19:45] <PP80> wols: so where would it mail? do i just type '$ mail?
[19:45] <mantovani> is working ActionParsnip
[19:45] <wols> PP80: for example. yes. dunno how and if you have set up local mail
[19:46] <mantovani> brazilian server is off.
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> mantovani: not off
[19:46] <mantovani> dns*
[19:46] <mantovani> I know
[19:46] <michealPW> ActionParsnip: How do I become a member?
[19:46] <PP80> wols: -bash: mail: command not found :|
[19:46] <mantovani> brazilian DNS server is not answer.
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> mantovani: yes, the DNS is screwy, the servers could be on. Just not reachable
[19:46] <bjrohan> I am having all kinds of issues with ffmpeg and codecs, and getting files converted, mainly using KDenlive. does anyone have experience in this arena?
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> michealPW: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership
[19:46] <wols> PP80: /var/mail/
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> michealPW: if you /whois me you will see my member cloak :)
[19:47] <PP80> wols: empty :(
[19:47] <michealPW> Hrmm
[19:47] <litropy> Still clear, ActionParsnip. Thanks again; seeya.
[19:47] <ActionParsnip> mantovani: it is, until the server can be resolved to an IP from the name it is unreachable. The servers very well may be on
[19:47] <wols> PP80: do a dummy cronjob to check if the job runs as intended. then put your command inside a script which also does something you know that it ran
[19:48] <mantovani> ActionParsnip: I know...
[19:48] <wols> and last but not least try your cron job command manually to see if it works as intended. under the user the cronjob runs
[19:48] <PP80> wols: omg. -bash: rsync: command not found
[19:48]  * PP80 facepalm
[19:49] <PP80> thanks :p
[19:49] <ActionParsnip> PP80: d'oh
[19:49] <wols> PP80: if your mail system had worked, cron would have sent you the error message, alerting you to the problem
[19:49] <mantovani> ActionParsnip: thank you very much
[19:50] <PP80> wols: how should I just install a basic mail system, where processes can e-mail me locally?
[19:51] <deadbeef> guys please suggest me some neat rpg, like fallout 3, that is both nice and playable on ubuntu using wine or cxoffice
[19:52] <Aleush> hi
[19:52] <wols> PP80: just install a SMTP server yes. should be configured like this out of the box. don't let port 25 from outside reach you. if you are behind a NAT no config necessary
[19:52] <derpsauce> ActionParsnip: You still on?
[19:52] <wols> derpsauce: appdb.winehq.org
[19:53] <ActionParsnip> derpsauce: aye
[19:53] <tdoggette> I have Linux Mint 11 running on a G3 iMac and I'm looking for advice on getting a faster user experience
[19:53] <lenswipe> i installed gnome3 and now i cant get past the ubuntu wallpaper
[19:53] <lenswipe> tdoggette: #mint
[19:53] <derpsauce> ActionParsnip: I'm having some performance issues with my Wubi 12.10 install. Should I move down to 12.04?
[19:53] <baggers> It looks like using askubuntu for nexus7 related questions may be against askubuntu policy (understandably so looking at the rules). Any idea where would be better? For details see the discussion on meta: http://meta.askubuntu.com/questions/5308/should-questions-about-nexus-7-be-off-topic?cb=1
[19:53] <tdoggette> lenswipe, Thanks
[19:53] <lenswipe> when i start ubuntu up i just get the default wallpaper and a mose cursor
[19:53] <lenswipe> can someone help with this?
[19:53] <lenswipe> I need this laptop for university and right now its essentially useless.
[19:54] <lenswipe> im typing this message from a university PC
[19:55] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[19:55] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: its ubuntu 12.10
[19:55] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: if you press CTRL+ALT+T a terminal should run,
[19:56] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: 12.10 comes with Gnome3 by default
[19:56] <lenswipe> seemingly not
[19:56] <lenswipe> because i installed gnome3 from the software center
[19:56] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: when you installed 12.10 you had Gnome3 and Unity
[19:56] <lenswipe> no i didnt
[19:56] <lenswipe> i only had unity
[19:56] <lenswipe> and if i press Ctrl + Alt + T the terminal appears and disappears
[19:56] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: Unity is a shell for Gnome
[19:56] <Aleush> ÷åãî?
[19:56] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: you run both as well as Cmpiz when you run Unity
[19:56] <Aleush> ActionParsnip: ÷óðêà?
[19:57] <ActionParsnip> Aleush: what does that mean?
[19:57] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: well its broken now
[19:57] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: Unity isn't a replacement for Gnome
[19:57] <Aleush> haha
[19:57] <quidnunc> "Would you like to install youtube" <--- What is this going to install in firefox?
[19:57] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: The sort and long of it is this - i went into the software center, installed "GNOME" and told Ubuntu to use GDM as my default desktop environment instead of lightdm
[19:57] <JamoBox> Hey guys, I'm completely new to ubuntu and need some help if possible. I'm trying to install ubuntu as a partition to my win7 os on my harddrive. I have burnt the latest installer to a dvd-rw and restarted my pc. When it restarted it came up with windows boot manager saying that wubildr was missing or corrupt, and it didn't boot. Any ideas?
[19:58] <ActionParsnip> quidnunc: its a webapp
[19:58] <lenswipe> my computer is now useless
[19:58] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: thats basically it.
[19:58] <quidnunc> ActionParsnip: What is a webapp?
[19:58] <Aleush> ActionParsnip: it is difficult to
[19:58] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: lightdm isnt a desktop environment, its a (d)esktop (m)anager
[19:58] <ActionParsnip> quidnunc: the web will tell you I'm a little tied up
[19:58] <ActionParsnip> !webapp
[19:59] <derpsauce> I'm having performance issues with 12.10. Should I move down to 12.04? I've had an invisible cursor with 12.04 in the past (I'm using Wubi).
[19:59] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: okay well when i installed gnome it asked me which defaul desktop manager i would like and i selected gdm instead of light dm. The computer is now useless an only shows the default ubuntu desktop
[19:59] <quidnunc> ActionParsnip: I'll just install it to see. How do I remove it once installed?
[19:59] <linusasus6> wich option I choose : delete ubuntu precise and reinstall or something else and choose the old partition that I will modify and format
[19:59] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: Gnome is stil the desktop environment when you installed 12.10 with compiz as the window manager and Unity as the shell instead of gnome-panel
[19:59] <JamoBox> Anyone?
[20:00] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: so do you know how to fix it or....
[20:00] <fidel_> hi - got ubuntu 12.04 and am trying to move data from & to an ipod touch running ios 4.2.1. any tips? clementine (my music player sees the device and its content but seems to be read-limited)
[20:00] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: if you press CTRL+ALT+F1 and install the gnome-panel package, then run:  killall -u $USER   you should then be able to use Gnome Panel as the shell
[20:00] <Jisawesome2> What packages should I install if I want to use ubuntu server as a web server
[20:00] <ActionParsnip> !lamp | Jisawesome2
[20:00] <quidnunc> JamoBox: Are you booting from the DVD?
[20:00] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: any particular reason that the software center didn't do that when i installed gnome?
[20:00] <ActionParsnip> derpsauce: what video chip do you use?
[20:00] <fidel_> do i need a specific iois version on the touch for best support?
[20:01] <Jisawesome2> Actionparsnip, do I need any others?
[20:01] <JamoBox> I've tried going into bios and making sure cd/dvd boot is first, yes
[20:01] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: no idea, it'd be worth installing so you at least get a shell to use
[20:01] <sevenforall> Is there a way to auto-publish stuff in my Ubuntu One folder?
[20:01] <Jisawesome2> !openssh
[20:01] <ActionParsnip> Jisawesome2: that will give a flly featured web host with sql and php and lots of other goodies
[20:01] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: right
[20:01] <ActionParsnip> quidnunc: its just a package, like any other
[20:02] <Jisawesome2> Actionparsnip, is there a way to host multiple websites on one server
[20:02] <ActionParsnip> quidnunc: its just a handy installer etc
[20:02] <derpsauce> ActionParsnip: What do you mean?
[20:02] <wols> Jisawesome2: apache virtualhost
[20:02] <quidnunc> ActionParsnip: Okay, how do I disable all those prompts for youtube/twitter/etc
[20:02] <quidnunc> ?
[20:02] <ActionParsnip> derpsauce: what do you have that puts the image on the screen?
[20:02] <ActionParsnip> quidnunc: I believe once you say no to them they don't come back
[20:02] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: apparently gnome-panel is already the newest version
[20:02] <quidnunc> ActionParsnip: I have to do it for each site?
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> quidnunc: I don't know I gave up on Firefox years ago
[20:03] <Jisawesome2> wols, I did not mean subdomains
[20:03] <Jisawesome2> That appears to be only for x.y.com and z.y.com
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: then try a different session from the login screen, see how that gies
[20:03] <Hanmac> i search for an copy command that syncs two locations (it should copy all attributes)
[20:03] <derpsauce> ActionParsnip: As far as I can tell I am using the Unity desktop. I installed and things got slowed down a bit.
[20:03] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: I cant *GET* to the login screen :'(
[20:04] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: it boots and just shows me the default ubuntu wallpaper and a cursor
[20:04] <lenswipe> that's all i get
[20:04] <wols> Jisawesome2: virtalhost has nothing to do with subdomains at all
[20:04] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: oh you use autologin?
[20:04] <wols> Jisawesome2: you can run x.com, y.com and z.com, all via virtualhost
[20:04] <lenswipe>  ActionParsnip nope
[20:04] <derpsauce> ActionParsnip: Windows ("Home" folder for example) will stop responding, but heavier apps (like Minecraft, because I just installed it) don't have any problems.
[20:04] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: I don't use autologin
[20:05] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: press CTRL+ALT+F1 and run:   killall -u $USER    and it will hopefully show
[20:05] <lenswipe> okay
[20:05] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: nothin
[20:05] <hmmwhatsthisdo> Does anyone know of a way to force BURG to use a certain resolution, regardless of what is listed as being supported by vbeinfo? I tried manually changing the resolution in burg.cfg
[20:05] <kevin_|TABLET> Hi all. I just installed on a new SSD, and now when i boot, grub errors with 'unknown filesystem' .... any ideas?
[20:05] <lenswipe> it just returns me to a prompt in tty1 and tty7 is still filled with the default ubuntu wallpaper and a mouse cursor
[20:06] <Jisawesome2> wols, would this work on a 15 year old computer?
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: try reinstalling lightdm package, may help
[20:06] <lenswipe> great.
[20:06] <pasteloides> mount disk?
[20:06] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: purge or just remove?
[20:07] <wols> Jisawesome2: on any computer running ubuntu. however, a 15 year old computer will not be able to run a dynamic website (e.g. with php and mysql) fast enough
[20:07] <michealPW> JamoBox: So, you cannot boot your computer from the Ubuntu LiveCD?
[20:07] <pasteloides> is xubuntu
[20:07] <Jisawesome2> wols, I am planning on getting new hardware
[20:07] <wols> pasteloides: what is your actual problem?
[20:08] <wols> Jisawesome2: static webpages will be fine, even on the old computer however
[20:08] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: okay im re-installing lightdm
[20:08] <pasteloides> i cannot open the hard disk
[20:08] <lenswipe> it's asking me what to use for the default display manager
[20:08] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: should i use lightdm or gdm?
[20:09] <wols> pasteloides: more information needed. better description of the problem needed
[20:09] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: i went for lightdm
[20:09] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: okay it's still doing that thing where it only shows the ubuntu default wallpaper
[20:09] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: no change.
[20:09] <n0sq> just rolled back the wifes laptop to 12.04.1 - amsn is missing but at least emesene is working ok - hopefully they'll get the bug worked out of amsn soon
[20:09] <lenswipe> it's still broken
[20:09] <spacebarbarian> how do i fully disable compiz ? it keeps crashing my UI and asking to relaunch ?
[20:10] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: could install the xfce4 package, you will at least have a usable desktop to work with
[20:10] <wols> spacebarbarian: run xubuntu
[20:11] <spacebarbarian> great suggestion, reinstall and remove all my stuff to disable 1 UI element
[20:11] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: but like...
[20:11] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: how many desktop managers do i have to install before ubuntu actually becomes usable?
[20:12] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: Let me explain how this works - i start my computer up, i go past the decryption thing and then I get this: http://i.imgur.com/GD3w6.jpg
[20:12] <n0sq> lenswipe: good question
[20:12] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: and thats all that is on the screen no matter how many times i restart GNOME or Unity or whatever
[20:12] <lenswipe> n0sq: i hate ubuntu so much
[20:12] <lenswipe> n0sq: that's a fairly recent development
[20:12] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: desktop environment, xfce is a desktop environment, not a manager
[20:12] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: meaning...
[20:13] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: all I want to do is remove unity because it looks horrible and runs like molasses - I didn't realise that was a forbidden task on ubuntu
[20:13] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: the manager with still be eiter lightdm or gdm, the desktop will be xfce4 and the window manager will be xfwm4
[20:13] <n0sq> ubuntu has bee problematic in 12.x
[20:13] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: but i don't want XFCE - i want GNOME
[20:13] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: its not, you just have to install gnome-panel and you could use the old style desktop
[20:14]  * n0sq was using mandriva until it's support died
[20:14] <lenswipe> n0sq: ubuntu has been dogshit since they introduced Unity. I hate unity so much you have no idea.
[20:14] <linusasus6> do you recommend this ppa : ppa:gwendal-lebihan-dev/cinnamon-stable  or is better to install the one from repertory
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: you don't need anything else. I have no idea what you have installed
[20:14] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: i have gnome-panel installed and i cant get a login screen
[20:14] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: all the stuff i installed came from the software center. it's not like ive done anything weird or crazy. i just used the packages provided by cannonical/ubuntu
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: yes because you installed all manner of godknows whatelse too
[20:15] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: everything was fine until I installed gnome from the software center.
[20:15] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: that broke things
[20:15] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: you could add the gnome-panel item to the startup items for the session and it may work
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: yes, all you had to do was install gnome-panel. Nothing more
[20:16] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: im not seeing how this is my fault
[20:16] <unityman> lenswipe: Unity has a purpose with Arm and introduction of lower powered pc/laptop and introduction of cell phones and tablet desktop... There is a purpose.
[20:16] <hmmwhatsthisdo> Does anyone know of a way to force BURG to use a certain resolution, regardless of what is listed as being supported by vbeinfo? I tried manually changing the resolution in burg.cfg, but it would appear that it's not working.
[20:16] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: i installed the gnome package from the software center in good faith that it wouldnt fuck my computer in the ground
[20:17] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: correct me if im wrong but that _IS_ the point of the software center isnt it?
[20:17] <heart-rythms> hello people is here somone who can help me with my qjack ?
[20:17] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: if i only have to install gnome panel - why is there a "GNOME" package in the software center?
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: i have no idea
[20:18] <michealPW> lenswipe: Do you have pastebinit installed? To install it type the following in a terminal: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[20:18] <michealPW> lenswipe: Once pastebinit is installed, enter this in a terminal: cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager | pastebinit
[20:18] <|Anthony|> how can i change the appearance of firefox so that, google for example, isn't a white background
[20:19] <michealPW> lenswipe: Then copy/paste the URL that pastebinit returns.
[20:19] <lenswipe> michealPW:
[20:19] <lenswipe> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1313418/
[20:19] <michealPW> thx
[20:19] <|Anthony|> i've added ff themes and they change some things, but not the actual page colors
[20:19] <zikalify> Just having a read of an article talking about secureboot in ubuntu  12.10, just wondering, is this gonna be backported to any new 12.04 isos?
[20:19] <hmmwhatsthisdo> |Anthony|: Google "stylish for firefox"
[20:19] <michealPW> lenswipe: Right, now do this in a terminal: cat /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf | pastebinit
[20:19] <robbie> how can I reset all the networking config's on my pc? I think Ive hosed it a bit with so many changes trying to diagnose a problem.
[20:20] <lenswipe> michealPW: https://paste.ubuntu.com/1313428
[20:21] <michealPW> Hrmm
[20:21] <michealPW> Weird.
[20:21] <michealPW> Seems fine :\
[20:22] <robbie> is there a way to see the recently installed/uninstalled packages on your system ?
[20:22] <lenswipe> im just failing to understand how installing something from the official ubuntu software center can screw your whole machine into the ground
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: if you like the Gnome2 smell you can use Xubuntu and Unit won't even be installed, or you can install Mate or Cinammon to get an unsupported fork of Gnome2
[20:22] <MissMinx> Network Card :	Broadcom BCM4306(??) 802.11g Wireless NIC
[20:22] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: i really just wanted vanilla gnome3 without unity
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom | MissMinx
[20:22] <|Anthony|> hmmwhatsthisdo, i forgot about Stylish. thanks :)
[20:22] <MissMinx> How to get working on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS live disc before install?
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: vanilla Gnome3 uses gnome-shell as the shell
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> MissMinx: its all in that link
[20:22] <MissMinx> Thanks x
[20:23] <robbie> How can I see the recently installed/uninstalled packages on my system ?
[20:23] <michealPW> *thinks*
[20:23] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/06/Unity_5.12_on_Ubuntu_12.04.png/300px-Unity_5.12_on_Ubuntu_12.04.png
[20:23] <robbie> is there an "apt-get log" or something?
[20:23] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: im fairly certain that's unity
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> robbie: gedit /var/log/dpkg.log     scroll to the bottom for the latest packages being installed
[20:23] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: and although that is a screenshot of 12.04 - my 12.10 desktop looked quite a lot like that.
[20:23] <michealPW> Ilenswipe; Ah, righto.. Try this then
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: no, Unity is Ubuntu specific and made by Canonical
[20:23] <hmmwhatsthisdo> Does anyone know of a way to force BURG to use a certain resolution, regardless of what is listed as being supported by vbeinfo? I tried manually changing the resolution in burg.cfg, but it would appear that it's not working.
[20:24] <JasonGriffee> when compiling from source, ./configure results in "No such file or directory"
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: the deault Gnome3 shell is gnome-shell
[20:24] <zikalify> @MissMinx go to live session then search for additional drivers in unity search and enable driver from there,installs from disc rather than needing to tether to ethernet
[20:24] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: right...
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> JasonGriffee: did you read the install or readme file in the files you have
[20:24] <michealPW> lenswipe: Do you have X up and running, can you run gedit or are you just using a shell?
[20:24] <lenswipe> michealPW: i cant even get a login screen
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: do you have gdm installed?
[20:24] <JasonGriffee> ActionParsnip: Yes, not helpful
[20:24] <michealPW> lenswipe: Righto, then do you know vim?
[20:24] <lenswipe> michealPW: every time i start X i just see http://i.imgur.com/GD3w6.jpg
[20:24] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: yes i do
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: uninstall it and you will only have lightdm which shold be fine
[20:25] <michealPW> lenswipe: sudo vim /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[20:25] <michealPW> Change from /usr/sbin/lightdm to /usr/bin/gdm
[20:25] <michealPW> Then restart X
[20:25] <lenswipe> michealPW: quite wel
[20:26] <JasonGriffee> ActionParsnip: I'm installing Java JDK 7
[20:26] <michealPW> ActionParsnip: His lightdm is failing, though, I'm pretty sure? :|
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> michealPW: could reinstall the package, should re-setup the app
[20:27] <lenswipe> michealPW: what do you want me to do with it?
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> JasonGriffee: do you want oracle java?
[20:27] <michealPW> Yea, weird. My lightdm has no problem managing LXDE, XFCE4, KDE4.9, GNOME 3 and Unity HEEHEEE!
[20:28] <michealPW> lenswipe: default-display-manager is just a text-file with a pathname in it. Yours is set right now to /usr/sbin/lightdm. Change to /usr/bin/gdm
[20:28] <hmmwhatsthisdo> Does anyone know of a way to force BURG to use a certain resolution, regardless of what is listed as being supported by vbeinfo? I tried manually changing the resolution in burg.cfg, but it would appear that it's not working.
[20:28] <JasonGriffee> ActionParsnip: Ideally, yes.
[20:28] <christop1> hi, gnome-shell periodically asks me for a password, only information it gives me is that the username is my email address, but won't tell me which service it is for and I have no idea which one it wants, how do I find out what it might ask for there? tried watching gnome-shell's console output, but nothing interesting in there
[20:28] <michealPW> That will stop using lightdm and use GDM instead. Since you want to use GNOME 3, you might aswell run GDM anyways (GDM pre-loads chunks of GNOME)
[20:28] <ActionParsnip> JasonGriffee: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html   use a PPA, easier :)
[20:29] <lenswipe> michealPW: okay
[20:29] <JasonGriffee> ActionParsnip: Will this work with netbeans?
[20:30] <michealPW> lenswipe: If that works, we at least know it's a problem with lightdm right? :)
[20:30] <ActionParsnip> JasonGriffee: java is java so I'd imagine so yes
[20:30] <lenswipe> michealPW: 1) Do you want me to restart my machine after this? 2) There are _MANY_ problems with lightdm
[20:30] <michealPW> lenswipe: Then we can try to fix lightdm or you can just continue on with GDM hehe. GDM works fine, they all do. YOu can run GDM and log-in to a Unity session.. You can run KDM and log-in to a GNOME 3 session, etc. etc. They all work with each other, I've got them all installed on Ubuntu 12.04.
[20:31] <lenswipe> michealPW: lighdm = unity?
[20:31] <michealPW> lenswipe: You CAN restart your machine, it's the easiest way. You don't HAVE to, you can kill your x server and restart it. Probably easy to just restart the entire machine :P
[20:31] <lenswipe> michealPW: im after a vanilla gdm/gnome shell install
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: no lightdm is a desktop manager, gives a login page etc. Unity is a shell for the Gnomedesktop
[20:31] <michealPW> lenswipe: Nope. Lightdm is totaly seperate. It's actually really cool. They switched to lightdm 'cause it's lightweight and extensible
[20:31] <michealPW> lenswipe: Ah, then you probably want GDM mate :P
[20:32] <lenswipe> k
[20:32] <lenswipe> i set it to lightdm
[20:32] <lenswipe> okay im at the UBUNTU ...... screen right now
[20:32] <lenswipe> with the orange loading dots
[20:32] <robbie> how can I reset all the networking config's on my pc? I think Ive hosed it a bit with so many changes trying to diagnose a problem.
[20:33] <michealPW> Wait, you set to lightdm? You want to set it to: /usr/bin/gdm
[20:33] <michealPW> Also, that's not a typo. GDM is in /usr/bin, lightdm is in /usr/sbin.. Two different directories :P
[20:33] <lenswipe> michealPW: it seems to be stuck on that
[20:33] <michealPW> So your text file, /etc/X11/default-display-manager should contain /usr/bin/gdm.
[20:34] <michealPW> Double-check with cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[20:34] <lenswipe> michealPW: ActionParsnip it seems to be stuck on the UBUNTU loading screen
[20:35] <michealPW> lenswipe: Use Ctrl+Alt+F1 to switch to virtual terminal 1..
[20:35] <lenswipe> yeah i can get a terminal
[20:35] <lenswipe> ive done that
[20:35] <michealPW> Then log-in. Type cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager | pastebinit
[20:35] <robbie> how can I reset all the networking config's on my pc? I think Ive hosed it a bit with so many changes trying to diagnose a problem.
[20:35] <lenswipe> michealPW: oh by the way - if i restart gdm i see warnings about plymouthd
[20:35] <lenswipe> and right now its at the top of top
[20:35] <michealPW> Hrmm
[20:35] <lenswipe> not sure if that's relevant or not
[20:36] <JasonGriffee> ActionParsnip: Thank you.
[20:36] <hmmwhatsthisdo> Does anyone know of a way to force BURG to use a certain resolution, regardless of what is listed as being supported by vbeinfo? I tried manually changing the resolution in burg.cfg, but it would appear that it's not working.
[20:36] <lenswipe> michealPW: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1313467
[20:37] <aleksej> Hey, im new to linux, can someone help me with installing JAVA :-)
[20:37] <michealPW> hrmm!
[20:37] <lahwran> it's easy to convert 12.04.1 default-desktop to 12.04.1 kde-desktop, right?
[20:37] <danon_> why do graphic drivers have to be a pain in the ass
[20:37] <lahwran> they don't
[20:38] <lahwran> unfortunately they currently are
[20:38] <michealPW> Oh I'm retarded
[20:38] <lenswipe> aleksej: sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jdk openjdk-6-jre
[20:38] <michealPW> Sorry, use vim and change that to /usr/sbin/gdm
[20:38] <lenswipe> aleksej: run that
[20:38] <gordonjcp> danon_: because manufacturers make hardware that they do not disclose the full spec for
[20:38] <lenswipe> ah okay
[20:38] <danon_> i bet its because companys dont think about linux at all really
[20:38] <xangua> !java | aleksej
[20:38] <michealPW> I thought gdm was in /bin like kdm was hehehe
[20:38] <gordonjcp> danon_: so with all the graphics drivers out there, you are somewhat reliant on cramming a binary blob in somewhere
[20:38] <danon_> god why cant nvidia just make a .deb package
[20:38] <xangua> aleksej: or you can try: (14:28:46) ActionParsnip: JasonGriffee: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html   use a PPA, easier :)
[20:39] <gordonjcp> danon_: for which distro that uses Debian package management?
[20:39] <danon_> .....
[20:39] <lahwran> gordonjcp: actually, I think a significant portion of what makes modern graphics cards so powerful is software now. not winmodem crap where the cpu does it, but stuff where the gpu is actually programmed from software by the driver
[20:39] <danon_> ubuntu?
[20:39] <gordonjcp> danon_: and which version of that distro, and which kernel, and and and
[20:39] <kevin_|TABLET> Sooo i am in grub rescue console, and its showing (hd0,msdos1) .... is that norma;?
[20:39] <gordonjcp> lahwran: correct
[20:39] <wrostek> Question about hotapd wifi, I have 80211n network setup, I can get 40mb/s in iperf across wifi.. On the hostapd machine I can download from the internet at 3.6 mb/s but on the wireless client I am only getting 2 mb/s..  Why can't I get full 3.6mb/s when the network can run at 40mb/s ?
[20:39] <gordonjcp> lahwran: but that's what the big blob is - the GPU firmware
[20:39] <danon_> i like APUs
[20:39] <aleksej> Thanks guys :)
[20:40] <michealPW> Righto. So once you've edited that (sorry LOL, my mistake) try restarting the machine again and see if it gets to GDM's login screen
[20:40] <gordonjcp> lahwran: if you had a horking great FPGA on a PCIe card with some DACs you could roll your own software-defined graphics card
[20:40] <aleksej> So much things just got changed in ubuntu
[20:40] <lenswipe> michealPW: and we're back to the ubuntu wallpaper and the cursor
[20:40] <derpsauce> ActionParsnip: Any advice concerning shell scripts? I'm learning about them now
[20:40] <lenswipe> michealPW: i think the software center has buggered X up
[20:41] <michealPW> mm, alright, try going back to the terminal and using sudo service gdm stop and then sudo service gdm start
[20:41] <michealPW> To see if it outputs and errors?
[20:41] <michealPW> :\
[20:41] <danon_> but isint alot of driver written in unix and linux basics anyway
[20:42] <quidnunc> My lightdm won't start anymore
[20:42] <lenswipe> michealPW: TTY7 is showing a message saying "mountall Plymouth command failed" and then "mountall: Disconnected from plymouth"
[20:42] <lenswipe> dont know how relevant that is
[20:42] <michealPW> Hrmm, Iunno what Plymouth even is :\
[20:43] <quidnunc> "Got signal 15"
[20:43] <michealPW> Try sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[20:43] <lenswipe> michealPW: me either
[20:43] <michealPW> Maybe that will re-install/fix gdm? :\
[20:43] <lenswipe> michealPW: and when i restarted GDM i got back to the ubuntu wallpaper
[20:43] <lenswipe> michealPW: okay
[20:43] <michealPW> That command should trigger it to ask you which one you'd like, select GDM.
[20:44] <lenswipe> michealPW: okay
[20:44] <lenswipe> done
[20:44] <lenswipe> what now?
[20:44] <lenswipe> restart gdm again?
[20:44] <michealPW> It asked you and you selected gdm, hehe?
[20:45] <michealPW> Or did nothing happen at all?
[20:45] <lenswipe> michealPW: yeah it asked me and i selected gdm
[20:45] <michealPW> Righto, yea try restarting it now
[20:45] <lenswipe> michealPW: back to the ubuntu wallpaper
[20:45] <lenswipe> michealPW: no hard disk activity and the machine seemingly doing absolutely zilch
[20:46] <stefanomandelli> hi Guy !
[20:46] <michealPW> Hrmm!
[20:47] <michealPW> I'm stumped, lenswipe :\
[20:47] <joseph-soares> how do I enter in Alternate Mode in 12.10?
[20:47] <michealPW> How did you install GNOME, may I ask?
[20:48] <lenswipe> michealPW: the software center
[20:48] <michealPW> And, is this a basic Ubuntu 12.04 LTS system you installed GNOME on and now it's broken?
[20:48] <michealPW> No I mean, which package did you select and install?
[20:48] <ActionParsnip> joseph-soares: how do you mean?
[20:48] <lenswipe> michealPW: there was/is a package called "Gnome" I clicked install, next thing i know - i restart and my computer is hosed.
[20:48] <lenswipe> michealPW: its 12.10
[20:48] <joseph-soares> because the new ISO of ubuntu has into the normal and alternate mode
[20:49] <michealPW> Hrmm
[20:49] <michealPW> Righto, well, here's what you should try...
[20:49] <lenswipe> michealPW: do you know why i installed gnome?
[20:49] <ActionParsnip> joseph-soares: do you mean the alternate ISO?
[20:49] <joseph-soares> ActionParsnip, I need start without using graphics mode
[20:49] <michealPW> lenswipe: I could imagine, I like GNOME :)
[20:49] <lenswipe> michealPW: i installed gnome because some genius at cannonical decided to ditch Unity 2D and Unity3D was making my computer run like molasses
[20:49] <ActionParsnip> joseph-soares: add the boot option:  text
[20:50] <michealPW> I am using Ubuntu 12.04, I installed GNOME 3 from the gnome 3 repository. Maybe we can remove completely your GNOME and install GNOME from that repo?
[20:50] <joseph-soares> ActionParsnip, But when I boot from CD it doesn't ask for anythinng. It go to choose between install and try ubuntu
[20:50] <ActionParsnip> michealPW: 12.04 comes with Gnome3 already
[20:51] <lenswipe> michealPW: so what do i need to do now?
[20:51] <robbie> how can I reset my networking configs to their original state in 12.10?
[20:51] <ActionParsnip> joseph-soares: that's normal, what are you wanting to achieve?
[20:51] <lenswipe> michealPW: i have a fucked up computer and university assignments to complete
[20:51] <lenswipe> *round of applause for cannonical*
[20:51] <michealPW> LOL!
[20:52] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: why are you messing with your OS when time isnt a luxury?
[20:52] <joseph-soares> ActionParsnip, Where do I put "text", as you said?
[20:52] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: because i needed GDM3 to run Firefox OS which i need for my dissertation
[20:52] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: it doesn't make any sense that a package from the official software center would have that effect
[20:52] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: then you may want to review your time planning
[20:53] <sliddjur> Why is it that flash videos are playing in like 3 times normal speed?
[20:53] <ActionParsnip> sliddjur: can you give a pastebin of the output of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'fash|gnash|swf|spark'
[20:53] <ActionParsnip> joseph-soares: why do you want text only mode on the liveCD?
[20:53] <lenswipe> sliddjur: welcome to ubuntu
[20:54] <ActionParsnip> !bootoption | joseph-soares
[20:54] <ArmyMan007> my ubuntu 12.10 has screwed my moniter settings... i really wish i haven't upgraded my version
[20:54] <ArmyMan007> stuck on 1024x768
[20:54] <ActionParsnip> ArmyMan007: ive seen a few issues with displays with upgrades. I would always clean install
[20:55] <michealPW> lenswipe: Righto, well, try this: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
[20:55] <ActionParsnip> ArmyMan007: what video chip do you use?
[20:55] <joseph-soares> ActionParsnip, Because I was try to install Ubuntu in a 512MB computer, and it entered the swap partition, so I couldn't format this partition
[20:55] <lenswipe> ArmyMan007: i wish i had never moved to ubuntu period.
[20:55] <robbie> how can I reset my networking config files to their original state in 12.10?
[20:55] <ArmyMan007> ActionParsnip, AMD chip
[20:55] <joseph-soares> ActionParsnip, And swapoff didn't work
[20:55] <ActionParsnip> joseph-soares: then run:  sudo swapoff /dev/partition    and then do as you please
[20:55] <ArmyMan007> lenswipe, agree... in a way
[20:55] <ActionParsnip> joseph-soares: try the mini ISO
[20:56] <ActionParsnip> ArmyMan007: do you use the proprietary video driver?
[20:56] <joseph-soares> will mini iso install gnome?
[20:56] <ActionParsnip> joseph-soares: it can, if you tell it
[20:56] <joseph-soares> But I can't install from Internet
[20:56] <ArmyMan007> ActionParsnip, yes
[20:56] <ActionParsnip> joseph-soares: ah
[20:57] <joseph-soares> It's in a public school and it has a very low connection
[20:57] <joseph-soares> ActionParsnip,  slow*
[20:57] <michealPW> lenswipe: Did you enter that, like I said?
[20:57] <ActionParsnip> joseph-soares: could use gparted in Ubuntu liveCD and write a new DOS partition table, wiping all partitions and destroying all data, then install
[20:57] <robbie> how can I reset my networking config files to their original state in 12.10?
[20:58] <ArmyMan007> in short... wish i'd never installed ubuntu, every install i have one problem or another
[20:58] <michealPW> lenswipe: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
[20:58] <robbie> is that a really difficult wuestion?
[20:58] <hmmwhatsthisdo> Does anyone know of a way to force BURG to use a certain resolution, regardless of what is listed as being supported by vbeinfo? I tried manually changing the resolution in burg.cfg, but it would appear that it's not working.
[20:58] <lenswipe> michealPW: what now?
[20:58] <joseph-soares> ActionParsnip, I tryed this, but swap partition was been used
[20:58] <ActionParsnip> robbie: I was busy with other users, have some patience
[20:59] <ActionParsnip> robbie: you waited 3 minutes....think about it
[20:59] <Guest77317> I recently installed ubuntu 11.10 on a second hand laptop and my wifi connection isnt working. it seems to be a common problem with the broadcom wifi but I am having difficulty solving it. can someone give advice?  The pc I sam having this difficulty on is not connected to the internet
[20:59] <robbie> ActionParsnip: Ive been asking for the past hour
[20:59] <robbie> ActionParsnip: I just dont ask too often :)
[20:59] <ArmyMan007> is there any way to install propiarty drivers from terminal?
[20:59] <ActionParsnip> robbie: how did you define the connections
[20:59] <ArmyMan007> proprietary video driver
[20:59] <ActionParsnip> ArmyMan007: uninstall the driver, reboot then reinstall it
[21:00] <michealPW> lenswipe: sudo vim /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[21:00] <robbie> ActionParsnip: Now I am pretty sure they are a little hosed -- I would be happy to get back to the original settings for networking and start over
[21:00] <ArmyMan007> ActionParsnip, from the terminal...
[21:00] <ArmyMan007> ActionParsnip, I don't have access to anything since I can't see my desktop
[21:00] <ActionParsnip> robbie: how did you define the connections
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> ArmyMan007: does CTRL+ALT+T bring up a terminal?
[21:01] <guntbert> robbie: there is no such thing as "get back to original" in one easy step, thats why you were asked to tell how you changed the settings
[21:01] <robbie> ActionParsnip: I made them a static connection -- you want the interfaces conf in a pastie?
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> robbie: ok I'll make the question simpler
[21:01] <lenswipe> michealPW: what am i editing in here
[21:01] <michealPW> lenswipe: change the greeter-session to greeter-session=lightdm-gtk-greeter
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> robbie: did you use network manager or did you use the /etc/network/interfaces file?
[21:01] <linusasus6> what mission-control-5 is for? after installing ubuntu it crash
[21:02] <robbie> ActionParsnip: I used the interfaces file
[21:02] <joseph-soares> ActionParsnip, When I start LiveCD, Ubuntu uses SWAP partition. So, when I try to create a new partition table, it doesn't work, because LiveCD is using SWAP, because the computer's memory is slow
[21:02] <michealPW> Save that file and then do sudo vim /etc/X11/default-display-manager and change to /usr/sbin/lightdm
[21:02] <michealPW> Then restart the entire machine and cross your fingers! :)
[21:02] <ActionParsnip> robbie: then edit the file and delete everything except the 2 lines defining the lo interface and reboot, it will now be default
[21:03] <ActionParsnip> joseph-soares: you should still be able to wipe the drive in liveCD. You could try a puppy liveCD and do it there
[21:03] <guntbert> joseph-soares: open a terminal and type   sudo swapoff -a
[21:03] <lenswipe> michealPW: can we take this to a prvate chat?
[21:03] <robbie> ActionParsnip: I also uninstalled dhcp client -- I can put that pack .. which I would need to if I followed your advice :)
[21:03] <michealPW> Sure :)
[21:03] <lenswipe> sweet
[21:03] <michealPW> I'm just about out of ideas, though hah
[21:03] <robbie> ActionParsnip: there's also the kernel modules for ipv6 I changed
[21:04] <Cristiano-CM> Pessoal alguém ai pode me ajudar com o K3b?
[21:04] <allu3> Hello i'm having hard time trying to install ubuntu 10.04 on an old laptop via PXE i can't get dhcp server up on my ubuntu 12.10 eeepc connected directly to the old pc
[21:04] <robbie> ActionParsnip: I think with all the changes I did I need to fully reconfigure the netowrking to its base state
[21:04] <xangua> !pt | Cristiano-CM
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> robbie: allu3do you not have a home router?
[21:06] <robbie> ActionParsnip: we have the router from the service provider
[21:07] <ActionParsnip> robbie: mistabbed, sorry
[21:07] <allu3> ActionParsnip: yes, but it runs on bridged mode and has other people using it as well
[21:07] <allu3> ActionParsnip: so i can't really use it to habndle dhcp
[21:07] <ActionParsnip> allu3: doesn't it give DHCP tp the PXE boot
[21:08] <ActionParsnip> robbie: If you can tell me what you changed, I can look at my files and say what's going on
[21:08] <robbie> ActionParsnip: That's actually my problem. Ive changed so many things I dont feel like I know all the changes I made anymore. I would rather reset the configuration
[21:09] <allu3> ActionParsnip: um the router is irrelevant at the moment since the old pc is connected straight to the laptop, i'm trying to get the laptop run dhcp server and the PXE stuff and so far it gets stuck to the dhcp server closing itself
[21:09] <gavin__> hello
[21:10] <gavin__> I need help, one of my computers, I have just installed ubuntu 10.10 on it and the Internet is not working at all
[21:10] <gavin__> hello
[21:10] <gavin__> I need help
[21:10] <alone> haha
[21:10] <gavin__> can anyone help me
[21:10] <alone> don't need more sentences ;)
[21:11] <gavin__> whats that suppose to mean?#
[21:11] <alone> gavin__: do it reconizes the network cartis?
[21:11] <guntbert> !enter | gavin__
[21:11] <xangua> gavin__: why are you using an unsupported release anyways¿
[21:11] <gavin__> Well, how do you mean?
[21:11] <yeats> gavin__: did you mean 12.10?
[21:11] <gavin__> no
[21:11] <inorunforyou> hello, what is the md5sum for ubuntu-12.10-desktop-amd64.iso   ?  7ad57cadae955bd04019389d4b9c1dcb is listed but that does not seem right (I downloaded twice from different mirrors and got a different md5sum)
[21:11] <yeats> !10.10 | gavin__
[21:11] <gavin__> I'm trying to update it, but having no chance
[21:12] <gavin__> no network
[21:12] <gavin__> I plugged in the wire into it, but still no internet and yes 10.10
[21:12] <yeats> gavin__: any reason you're not just installing a newer release?
[21:12] <ActionParsnip> gavin__: maverick is dead
[21:13] <gavin__> I don't have the cd or internet on that one and can't update the newer release without network
[21:13] <robbie> ok, going tor eboot
[21:13] <gavin__> what am I supposed to do?
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> gavin__: ask a buddy to make you a Precise or Quantal CD. You may find one on the front of Linux magazines too
[21:13] <simplew> its thre any plan to create an install to allow to install with encrypted partitions and to choose what cuypher to use like it happens in opensuse distro ?
[21:14] <gavin__> Ok, what if I use a USB stick?
[21:14] <yeats> gavin__: I would go to a location with internet and download an image of 12.10 (or 12.04 if you prefer LTS) and put it on a live USB
[21:14] <gavin__> ok and then, how do I install it from there?
[21:14] <hmmwhatsthisdo> Does anyone know of a way to force BURG to use a certain resolution, regardless of what is listed as being supported by vbeinfo? I tried manually changing the resolution in burg.cfg, but it would appear that it's not working.
[21:14] <yeats> gavin__: boot from the USB and click "Install"
[21:14] <allu3> gavin__: if your computers bios supports it simply stick the usb to the computer and select the usb stick from boot options
[21:15] <gavin__> On this pc that I'm currently on is also 10.10. I have 1GB of RAM and won't even let me install the new version
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> gavin__: thats fine too, just use Precise or Quantal. The others are dead or have very short life left
[21:15] <gavin__> tried to install 3 - 4 times but having no luck of installing
[21:15] <allu3> ActionParsnip: howl ong is 10.04 alive?
[21:15] <allu3> how long*
[21:15] <yeats> !10.04
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> allu3: til April next year
[21:16] <allu3> so 10.04 is still and option
[21:16] <allu3> an*
[21:16] <inorunforyou> hello, what is the md5sum for ubuntu-12.10-desktop-amd64.iso   ?  7ad57cadae955bd04019389d4b9c1dcb is listed but that does not seem right (I downloaded twice from different mirrors and got a different md5sum)
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> allu3: yes but with 7 months life left, is it worth it
[21:17] <neure> hah
[21:17] <Guest77317>  I recently installed ubuntu 11.10 on a second hand laptop and my wifi connection isnt working. it seems to be a common problem with the broadcom wifi but I am having difficulty solving it. can someone give advice?  The pc I am having this difficulty on is not connected to the interne
[21:17] <ActionParsnip> hmmwhatsthisdo: burg isn't supported here
[21:17] <gavin__> my laptop is about 8 years, I don't know if there is USB support for installing
[21:17] <gavin__> 12.10
[21:17] <neure> i install 12.10 in virtual box and it gets stuck at restart
[21:17] <gavin__> virtual box?
[21:17] <gordonjcp> gavin__: what spec has your laptop got?
[21:18] <neure> yes
[21:18] <gavin__> I no idea
[21:18] <neure> i wonder if its still doing something
[21:18] <ActionParsnip> gavin__: I have systems that are older and boot USB, you can check in BIOS
[21:18] <gordonjcp> gavin__: you might want to consider Xubuntu or possibly Lubuntu
[21:18] <neure> or should i just reset vbox
[21:18] <guntbert> inorunforyou: the hashes are usually correct, your internet connection may be flaky, use a torrent
[21:18] <gordonjcp> gavin__: if all else fails, gank the drive out and stick it in something newer
[21:18] <gavin__> ok
[21:18] <gavin__> I can't, brought it from somewhere I cant remember
[21:18] <hmmwhatsthisdo> ActionParsnip: It isn't? It's a replacement for GRUB, I'm 98% sure there isn't any other places that provide live-ish support for it
[21:18] <gordonjcp> gavin__: pretty much all Linux distros are cool with that
[21:18] <ActionParsnip> !info burg
[21:18] <allu3> inorunforyou: 7ad57cadae955bd04019389d4b9c1dcb  Downloads/ubuntu-12.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[21:19] <ActionParsnip> hmmwhatsthisdo: I know what it is but its a 3rd party app so its not supported here
[21:19] <allu3> inorunforyou: but mine is downloaded a while ago
[21:19] <gavin__> ok thanks anyways, I'll try USB boot with new version of ubuntu
[21:19] <gavin__> bye
[21:19] <tao> i can not open https site like chase.com and facebook.com but some https site like gmail works.
[21:20] <allu3> tao: problems with DNS?
[21:20] <tao> allu3, where can i check that?
[21:20] <inorunforyou> guntbert: i cannot use a torrent
[21:21] <ActionParsnip> tao: try:   echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf > /dev/null     then run:   sudo apt-get update      is it ok?
[21:21] <guntbert> inorunforyou: why not? but you can use wget instead of a browser, or try to use adifferent mirror
[21:21] <allu3> guntbert: perhaps ISP blocking torrent etc?
[21:22] <ActionParsnip> inorunforyou: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/12.10/release/
[21:22] <ActionParsnip> inorunforyou: http access to 32bit and 64bit
[21:22] <randomDude> ActionParsnip: using resolv.conf is only going to be useful if you first stop network-manager (otherwise it peridodically overwrites /etc/resolv.conf)
[21:22] <xangua> allu3: interesting you mention it, does disconecting often when you download a torrent counts as isp blicking ¿
[21:22] <inorunforyou> ActionParsnip: I don't want lubuntu
[21:22] <Medjai> can someone pastebin the default .bashrc for Ubuntu 12.10?
[21:23] <inorunforyou> guntbert: I tried two mirrors as I said originally :/
[21:23] <ActionParsnip> inorunforyou: then change the link to ubuntu....to hard?
[21:23] <allu3> xangua: may be, or simply router doesn't handle well lots of connections
[21:23] <ActionParsnip> Medjai: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1313587
[21:23] <inorunforyou> ActionParsnip: how does this help me? I downloaded that already
[21:23] <inorunforyou> guntbert: also, I'm on windows so I can't use wget I think
[21:24] <randomDude> inorunforyou: yes you can
[21:24] <ActionParsnip> inorunforyou: i thought you wanted the ISO?
[21:24] <xangua> allu3: well i have that problem with ubuntu & transmission, but not in windows & utorrent
[21:24] <inorunforyou> ActionParsnip: hello, what is the md5sum for ubuntu-12.10-desktop-amd64.iso   ?  7ad57cadae955bd04019389d4b9c1dcb is listed but that does not seem right (I downloaded twice from different mirrors and got a different md5sum)
[21:24] <Cracked_Lucidity> when i try to use the make command when attempting to install gtk+ i get an error saying no makefile found, i can see four makefiles in the directory, what am i doing wrong
[21:24] <ActionParsnip> randomDude: only when DHCP lease expires as far as I know
[21:24] <workisgreat> hi. i remember there was an update notification applet available for kubuntu 12.04. where did it go in 12.10?
[21:24] <guntbert> inorunforyou: there are download managers for windows too
[21:24] <inorunforyou> guntbert: ok, which one should I use
[21:25] <Bustacap> Is there anything better than crappy audacity for audio editing?
[21:25] <ActionParsnip> inorunforyou: try searching the web for the hash you calculated
[21:25] <inorunforyou> ActionParsnip: no results
[21:25] <guntbert> inorunforyou: try one geographically near to your place
[21:25] <Cracked_Lucidity> Bustacap whats wrong with audacity?
[21:25] <inorunforyou> guntbert: I did already
[21:25] <inorunforyou> I will try a mirror in canada...
[21:26] <malcolm> has anyone got the intel/AMD graphic working yet?
[21:26] <ActionParsnip> Bustacap: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ocenaudio-easy-to-use-audio-editor.html
[21:26] <ActionParsnip> inorunforyou: sounds like a bad download
[21:26] <Bustacap> Cracked_Lucidity, can you save markers? Because It's a pain in the ass that I can't find an option to.
[21:26] <inorunforyou> guntbert, ActionParsnip: why is there a regular amd64 image and an amd64+mac image?  Will the amd64+mac work on everything the regular image works on?
[21:26] <allu3> xangua: hum i remember having the same once.. dunno what changed but its fixed.. you can also try different torrent programs, like deluge
[21:27] <inorunforyou> ActionParsnip: twice?  With the same erroneous md5sum?
[21:27] <Medjai> ActionParsnip: I'm trying to figure out why I'm getting these weird bash errors when I transfered my ubuntu system from an old laptop running 12.04
[21:27] <guntbert> inorunforyou: no idea
[21:27] <Medjai> I thought .bashrc was different and causing these erros but it's not that
[21:27] <Bustacap> ActionParsnip, thank you for the 20th time this week. I'll try it out.
[21:27] <Cracked_Lucidity> Bustacap, i believe so, but i do not know where to find it
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> Bustacap: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/06/lombard-fillmore-2-new-video-audio-editing-apps-released
[21:27] <Guest14478> any one installed oolite on their machine
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> Bustacap: I just search the web :)
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> !info oolite
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> Guest14478: sounds cool
[21:28] <gavin__> hello
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> inorunforyou: maybe the hash is wrong on the site, let me try
[21:28] <gavin__> I have a major issue with my own PC, my PC is about 7 years old and I'm still currently using ubuntu 10.10
[21:28] <gavin__> I can't even update it
[21:29] <Guest14478> action parnip, yeah its good but for some unknown reason, i can't find the oolite directory.
[21:29] <joseph-soares> ActionParsnip, guntbert When I make "sudo swapoff -a" it returns: "swapoff"
[21:29] <joseph-soares> sorry
[21:30] <Toa> gavin__, tell us your issue and we'd be happy to help.
[21:30] <martinjlowm-lapt> regarding the schedule for UDS tomorrow, what's on after 18:00?
[21:30] <joseph-soares> ActionParsnip, guntbert Returns: "swapoff: /dev/sda2: swapoff failed: cannot allocate memory"
[21:30] <ActionParsnip> inorunforyou: 7 mins to download
[21:31] <ActionParsnip> joseph-soares: tried puppy?
[21:31] <inorunforyou> ActionParsnip, guntbert: ca mirror worked with the correct md5sum!
[21:31] <c_smith> gavin__, that's because the repos for Maverick (10.10) don't technically exist anymore.
[21:31] <Cracked_Lucidity> gavin__ did you try a live disk or bootable usb drive?
[21:31] <ActionParsnip> inorunforyou: sweet
[21:31] <c_smith> gavin__, so the updates aren't there.
[21:32] <gavin__> ok, well basically, my pc only has 1GB of Ram, I tried updating to 12.10, but having no luck
[21:32] <gavin__> what can you suggest I do?
[21:32] <linusasus6> why mission-control-5 crash on start
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> inorunforyou: still want me to make a hash for you or arewe all good?
[21:32] <c_smith> gavin__, you could try a fresh install after backing up
[21:32] <gavin__> fresh install?
[21:32] <joseph-soares> ActionParsnip, Sorry, what's this?
[21:32] <gavin__> as in download the latest version and install it
[21:33] <Cracked_Lucidity> gavin__ exactly
[21:33] <inorunforyou> ActionParsnip: nah, thanks though
[21:33] <ActionParsnip> joseph-soares: its a super light linux distro, should run fine in 512Mb and you can then delete the swap
[21:33] <gavin__> ok, I'll try that, will 1GB be able to support it?
[21:33] <ActionParsnip> inorunforyou: no probs
[21:34] <Cracked_Lucidity> gavin__ this netbook only has one gigabyte of ram
[21:34] <gavin__> ok, what about other specs requirements?
[21:34] <ActionParsnip> gavin__: lubuntu uses a lot less RAM than the rest
[21:34] <gavin__> I'm not downloading the lite version
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> gavin__: my desktop is using 256Mb right now with pidgin and docky running :)
[21:35] <allu3> ActionParsnip: could you help me setting up dhcpd for PXE ?
[21:36] <ActionParsnip> allu3: not something I've ever setup. It is my next project though
[21:36] <kwerk> Cheeses colloquy sucks on the iPad. It won't stay connected.
[21:36] <allu3> ActionParsnip: i can't manage to get dhcpd running in any way :S
[21:36] <kwerk> I mean what's the deals
[21:36] <Toa> gavin__, if you find it to be too slow, xubuntu or lubuntu would certainly help.  You can install standard Ubuntu first and then install others later, switching between them at the login screen.
[21:37] <joseph-soares> ActionParsnip, Ok, I'll try it. But I'd like to use the LiveCD I've downloaded. I thought it was possible
[21:38] <inorunforyou> also thanks guntbert
[21:38] <ActionParsnip> joseph-soares: me too. weird
[21:38] <inorunforyou> bye!  I LOVE UBUNTU
[21:38] <Cracked_Lucidity> Toa do you have any idea why i get a no makefile error when i use the make command? the makefiles are there
[21:40] <Toa> Cracked_Lucidity, sorry, I can't help you with that one.  I'm pretty new to that myself.
[21:42] <gavin__> i'll try lubuntu to see how it goes
[21:43] <gavin__> how do I check what machine am I using such as 32 or 64 bit
[21:43] <jolish> i logged into my server and all terminal commands are gone.. if i use the up and down arrow I can't see any former commands.. how to?
[21:44] <gavin__> ?
[21:44] <fluitfries> i am trying to use unetbootin to create a bootable ubuntu iso.  i have tried fat32, ntfs, and ext2...  nothing will actually boot the pc.  what do i need to do to the drive before applying the ISO to it??
[21:44] <gavin__> hello
[21:44] <kostkon> gavin__, either check in system monitor, or in the terminal give: uname -r
[21:45] <kostkon> gavin__, if it says generic you are using 32bit, otherwise 64bit
[21:45] <gavin__> ok
[21:45] <kostkon> gavin__, your machine or ubuntu?
[21:45] <allu3> fluitfries: on usb stick?
[21:45] <kostkon> gavin__, cpu*
[21:46] <gavin__> I can see ubuntu 14.04 LTS, is that the Lite version which uses less than a Gig ram
[21:46] <allu3> gavin__: 14.04.. wait what?
[21:46] <Medjai> can anyone point me to where I can trace why I'm getting errors when my terminal first opens up?
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> gavin__: 14.04 isn't out til 2014
[21:46] <kostkon> gavin__, does the cmd:  cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep long   output anything?
[21:46] <gavin__> sorry ubuntu 12.04 LTS, is that the Lite version?
[21:47] <jolish> I lost all previous commandos in terminal.. what could I do to return my commands?
[21:47] <gavin__>  sorry ubuntu 12.04 LTS, is that the Lite version?
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> gavin__: grab Lubuntu 12.04
[21:47] <daviddoria> How do I tell which driver is currently being used for my video card?
[21:47] <inorunforyou> when will they allow ubuntu to be installed in my girlfriend so I can make love to ubuntu?
[21:47] <allu3> fluitfries: are you trying to make bootable liveCd or liveUSB ?
[21:47] <allu3> inorunforyou: just wait for cyborgs
[21:48] <kostkon> allu3, :P
[21:48] <ActionParsnip> gavin__: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/12.04/release/lubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso
[21:49] <fluitfries> allu3, i want to install from the ISO, but it is a USB yes
[21:49] <allu3> fluitfries: so you have an iso file and a usb stick?
[21:49] <allu3> fluitfries: are you on an ubuntu system?
[21:50] <fluitfries> allu3, yes, i have tried with unetbootin from both a linux and win7 os
[21:50] <fluitfries> allu3, yes i have both
[21:50] <allu3> fluitfries: go on linux if you aren't there
[21:50] <gavin__> I tried to download Lubuntu, the computer says it needs to take at least 7 hours
[21:50] <allu3> fluitfries: plug your usb stick to the computer and go on terminal
[21:50] <fluitfries> allu3, ok
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> gavin__: could use the torrent: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/12.04/release/lubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[21:50] <soman> Hi all. How I can make my app to use libcurl.so from it's folder not from system? Ubuntu 12.04? LD_LIBRARY_PATH=executable's path
[21:51] <allu3> write dmesg and put it in pastebin
[21:51] <NativeAngels> hello anyone had experience of dell poweredge servers
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> NativeAngels: I was certified in them for a while :)
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> NativeAngels: the hardware side
[21:52] <allu3> fluitfries: write dmesg and put it in pastebin
[21:52] <fluitfries> allu3, the output is so long that it is cut off in my terminal buffer
[21:52] <allu3> fluitfries: don't worry i'm interested in like last 20 lines
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> fluitfries: or install pastebinit then run:  dmesg | pastebinit
[21:52] <kostkon> fluitfries, dmesg > ~/Desktop/dmesg_out.txt
[21:53] <Toa> I know this is a basic question, but my mind is failing me.  I'm trying to run an instance of Thunderbird on a different Ubuntu partition and home directory.  How would I best go about this? Chroot?
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> Toa: could work, sounds ok to me
[21:54] <fluitfries> allu3, http://pastebin.com/mwCxNxss
[21:55] <allu3> fluitfries: is your usb stick Verbatim STORE N GO
[21:55] <fluitfries> allu3, yes
[21:55] <gavin__> how do I boot from the USB?
[21:55] <allu3> fluitfries: its 32GB usb stick?
[21:55] <fluitfries> allu3, yes
[21:56] <allu3> fluitfries: ok so if you have some stuff in it you want to keep backit up now ^^
[21:56] <gavin__> I have gone into the BIOS settings but can't find USB for the boot order
[21:56] <fluitfries> allu3, nope, i can wipe it
[21:56] <gavin__> how do I boot from the USB?
[21:56] <Toa> ActionParsnip, now I just have to figure out why it's not working
[21:56] <allu3> fluitfries: next go to terminal and write sudo dd if=/path/to/your/iso/file of=/dev/sdb
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> Toa: what isthe output when you run:  thunderbird
[21:57] <gavin__> hello
[21:57] <allu3> fluitfries: you want to be careful when writing the /dev/sdb if you write wrong you might render your computer useless :P
[21:57] <allu3> fluitfries: then let the command finnish it may take a while 5-15min usually
[21:57] <gavin__> hello
[21:58] <NativeAngels> im trying to install ubuntu on a dell poweredge 1500sc
[21:58] <fluitfries> allu3, it's copying
[21:58] <allu3> fluitfries: good, this method has always worked for me :)
[21:58] <NativeAngels> dont know what version will work on it
[21:58] <fluitfries> allu3, don't i need an mbr or something?
[21:59] <allu3> fluitfries: i haven't needed :P it has just worked out of the box with that
[21:59] <ActionParsnip> NativeAngels: grab Precise. It is supported til 2017
[21:59] <fluitfries> allu3, i think it is currently a fat32 as well if i remember ok
[21:59] <macmartine> What's the difference between kill -9 and kill -USR2 ?
[22:00] <allu3> fluitfries: i think it just writes the iso image directly on the device without caring of the mbr resulting in something like when you burn a iso to CD
[22:00] <allu3> i guess
[22:00] <fluitfries> allu3, kk
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> macmartine: I'm not seeing a -U -S or -R option in the man page for kill
[22:00] <gavin__> hellp
[22:00] <allu3> fluitfries: but you really need to be careful with the dd command, wrong device and its kk for all your files :P
[22:01] <gavin__> how do I boot from USB pen drive?
[22:01] <gavin__> I'm having trouble at the moment
[22:01] <fluitfries> allu3, all done now
[22:01] <allu3> gavin__: stick the drive to the pc, start up pc and go to bios
[22:01] <allu3> gavin__: go to boot options and select usb or the name of your usb drive
[22:01] <allu3> fluitfries: now just try it out :D
[22:02] <gavin__> allu3: I have boot order but not boot options
[22:02] <allu3> gavin__: what is the boot order?
[22:02] <gavin__> I don't know
[22:02] <ActionParsnip> macmartine: so the difference is, one works and one doesn't :)
[22:02] <gavin__> oh
[22:03] <gavin__> allu3: floppy diskette drive, atapi cd-rom drive, hard drive and network adapter
[22:04] <macmartine> ActionParsnip: Weird. it's here http://wiki.nginx.org/CommandLine
[22:04] <gavin__> alluc3: thats the list
[22:04] <allu3> gavin__: do you have selection "hard drives" anywhere?
[22:04] <fluitfries> allu3, "isolinux.bin missing or corrupt"
[22:04] <gavin__> allu3: yes I have hard drive in the boot order
[22:04] <hmmwhatsthisdo> gavin__: usually there's an option to manually select the boot device on most motherboards/BIOSes - what motherboard do you use?
[22:04] <gavin__> I don't know
[22:05] <allu3> fluitfries: o.o um what iso file it was ?
[22:05] <gavin__> do I boot from the hard drive since there is not a USB?
[22:05] <allu3> fluitfries: and one problem might be your usb stick being 32gb not sure all bios can recognize it well
[22:05] <fluitfries> allu3, lubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso
[22:05] <allu3> gavin__: nope
[22:05] <Cracked_Lucidity> gavin__ : if you use unetbootin to make a bootable usb drive it should select it by default
[22:05] <allu3> gavin__: it seems that your pc doesn't support booting from usb
[22:05] <gavin__> oh, which there isn't
[22:05] <gavin__> in this case
[22:06] <Evdb> hey guys, huge problem
[22:06] <kostkon> gavin__, how old is your pc, in years
[22:06] <fluitfries> allu3, i burned the image to cd and it booted ok.
[22:06] <gavin__> 8 years
[22:06] <fluitfries> allu3, but for this pc i need usb boot
[22:06] <gavin__> brought it in 2004
[22:06] <allu3> fluitfries: hum don't you have smaller usb stick?
[22:06] <fluitfries> allu3, i can make a smaller partition
[22:06] <allu3> fluitfries: i really begin to think the huge size might be the problem
[22:07] <gavin__> kostkon: 8 years
[22:07] <fluitfries> allu3, but what filesystem and partition map should i be using?
[22:07] <Evdb> I was running Ubuntu on my MacBook Pro after a lot of struggling, then I installed an Nvidia driver and everything effed up. Now I'm back to zero. When I try to boot from USb I get busybox, what is it and what's the solution? Need Ubuntu for exams in one week D:
[22:07] <allu3> fluitfries: fat32 is most certain
[22:07] <gavin__> kostkon: should I make a cd from it then?
[22:07] <fluitfries> allu3, ok, i'll try smaller partition
[22:07] <kostkon> gavin__, yes, so yeah it seems that it doesn't support booting from usb devices. burn a cd or dvd
[22:07] <allu3> well i'm off to bed, see ya
[22:08] <fluitfries> allu3, ty
[22:08] <gordonjcp> gavin__: be careful when you prepare the USB stick, that it has the right partition types and they're set bootable and all that
[22:08] <Cracked_Lucidity> evdb : format the drive externaly and start over?
[22:08] <Evdb> which drive?
[22:08] <gordonjcp> gavin__: or, like I said earlier, remove the drive, stick it in something else, and install there
[22:08] <Cracked_Lucidity> the harddrive
[22:08] <new[]> What's going on??? I just installed 12.04LTS fresh, and the dasher doesn't work.. It constantly shows "no results" for anything I type, and pressing [Enter] int the Alt+F2 run command does nothing!?
[22:09] <gavin__> I also want to know which version I'm using for this PC
[22:09] <Evdb> Hmm that's not really an option and I kinda already did, I only have my MAC OS X partition and unallocated space for Ubuntu cracked_lucidity
[22:09] <Medjai> can anyone pastebin for me from Ubuntu 12.10  /etc/bash.bashrc and /etc/bash_completion
[22:09] <kostkon> gavin__, version of ubuntu?
[22:09] <gavin__> yes
[22:09] <Linuxuser> I need help booting my flash drive. Everytime I select the USB to boot it takes me to GRUB
[22:09] <kostkon> gavin__, give in a terminal:  cat /etc/lsb-release
[22:09] <kostkon> gavin__, or open your system monitor
[22:10] <Cracked_Lucidity> Evdb: no clue then
[22:10] <Evdb> Does anyone know how to get rid off busybox, preventing me from booting into live USB Ubuntu?
[22:10] <linusasus6> can we install steam now and how please?
[22:10] <Guest26692> Can someone help me boot my flash drive? I'm trying to boot pear linux
[22:10] <fluitfries> lol errbody hasn probs with usb boot right now
[22:10] <ActionParsnip> Evdb: did you MD5 test the ISO you put on the USB?
[22:11] <Evdb> ActionParsnip can you explain that to me? I'm not familiar with that
[22:11] <kostkon> linusasus6, not yet
[22:11] <Guest26692> anyone?
[22:11] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | Evdb
[22:11] <linusasus6> kostkon when
[22:12] <Evdb> ActionParsnip but I have a Mac :s But I'll take a look ty
[22:12] <kostkon> linusasus6, i don't know, the beta will arrive soon but it's going to be available for 1000 testers only i think. maybe in 2-3 months
[22:12] <Medjai> ActionParsnip: Can I ask you to pastebin for me from Ubuntu 12.10 /etc/bash.bashrc and /etc/bash_completion sorry but I think these files are incorrect and they will fix my error
[22:12] <new[]> What's going on??? I just installed 12.04LTS fresh, and the dasher doesn't work.. It constantly shows "no results" for anything I type, and pressing [Enter] in the Alt+F2 run command does nothing!?
[22:13] <Guest26692> Hello? I can't get my computer to boot my flash drive. It did it earlier today and now it just takes me to GRUB
[22:13] <kostkon> linusasus6, if you want to open a discussion about it, you can do it in #ubuntu-ot :P
[22:14] <Guest26692> no one?
[22:14] <gordonjcp> !patience | Guest26692
[22:14] <linusasus6> no is ok I was just wondering if it was avaible nixie pixel talk about it I tought is was out
[22:14] <Guest26692> I know gordonjcp
[22:14] <daviddoria> I am trying to install a driver from "additional drivers". When I click "activate", I get "unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages". Any ideas how to fix that?
[22:15] <ActionParsnip> Medjai: sure
[22:15] <kostkon> linusasus6, it's #ubuntu-offtopic sorry
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> Medjai: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1313734/
[22:16] <linusasus6> is ok was just asking
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> Guest26692: tried pressing F11 or F12 to bring up the one time boot menu, to then choose the USB
[22:17] <linusasus6> I have reinstall ubuntu 12.04 and now no bug it was cinnamon the bug I think the ppa was not good so install mate instead it work well now
[22:17] <ActionParsnip> linusasus6: mate and cinammon aren't supported here
[22:18] <new[]> I just installed 12.04LTS fresh, and the dasher doesn't work.. It constantly shows "no results" for anything I type, and pressing [Enter] in the Alt+F2 run command does nothing??
[22:18] <Cracked_Lucidity> ActionParsnip: you understood that :O
[22:18] <ActionParsnip> Cracked_Lucidity: half
[22:19] <ChogyDan> i sending a large amount of data over the network, and it stopped working.  Both my cpu cores have 95%+ iowait.  I think I stopped the process, but my cpus are still in io wait.  Any ideas beyond rebooting?
[22:19] <zeeegis> labas
[22:19] <new[]> ChogyDan: instead of `reboot` ... try `shutdown -r now`
[22:19] <new[]> ^_^ xD
[22:20] <adam_> I need help booting my flash drive. I'm trying to boot Pear Linux and everytime I select my flash drive to boot it takes me to GRUB
[22:20] <linusasus6> I'm on ubuntu since the 6.06 I switch to linux mint when I saw 11.04 and now that we have mate I switch back to ubuntu
[22:20] <adam_> Yeah I just used MATE as well and switched
[22:20] <wilee-nilee> adam_, You know how to get to the outside of the boot menu?
[22:20] <aiFrantz> linusasus6: mind trying cinnamon... I think it is much cooler than MATE
[22:21] <adam_> wilee-nilee: BIOS?
[22:21] <Cracked_Lucidity> ActionParsnip remember multibabel?
[22:21] <linusasus6> aiFrantz cinnamon buggy on ubuntu 12.04
[22:21] <wilee-nilee> adam_, YOU can set the usb boot from the bios and there is a key press to get you to a menu outside of the bios.
[22:21] <new[]> Guest26692: check your BIOS to ensure that the flash USB is set to boot before the HDD
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> linusasus6: its a 3rd party app, not supported here
[22:22] <zeeegis> %time out
[22:22] <adam_> wilee-nilee: how do I do that?
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> new[]: mv ~/.local/share/zeitgeist ~/.local/share/zeitgeist_old     reboot to test
[22:22] <wilee-nilee> adam_, Mine is f12 like you would going to the bios, yours may be different.
[22:22] <aiFrantz> linusasus6: is it really really buggy? how long? I've been in Arch for a while..
[22:22] <linusasus6> is ok I understand the ppa is not official anyway so is not stable
[22:22] <new[]> ActionParsnip: yeah, i might try ... but i can't even get a terminal ??
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> new[]: press CTRL+ALT+T
[22:23] <new[]> ok
[22:23] <adam_> I've tried going to BIOS and making the flash drive boot first and it doesn't work. I was able to boot from my flash drive earlier today with no problems.
[22:23] <adam_> And on the computer it says flash drive is part of the HDD group
[22:23] <brandtone> ?
[22:24] <gavin__> how do I boot from the CD?
[22:24] <wilee-nilee> adam_, Some computers use f12 some other keys you can look on the web for the boot from menu for your setup, or post it here if you don't find it and we can try.
[22:24] <gavin__> I'm having a trouble doing it
[22:24] <gavin__> everytime I boot from CD, it keeps going back to 10.10
[22:24] <linusasus6> hit esc or f12 at start
[22:24] <gavin__> ok
[22:24] <adam_> wilee-nilee: I've tried before. It's an HP pavilion a6109n
[22:24] <gavin__> its a laptop, do I still press the same
[22:25] <aiFrantz> try to hit <<Del>> or <<F8>>. If you're lucky enough.. heh
[22:25] <linusasus6> ya is for go to the boot loader
[22:25] <malkauns> how do i get rid of video tearing? i'm using nvidia
[22:25] <gavin__> hello
[22:25] <wilee-nilee> adam_, I think the HP is esc
[22:25] <adam_> yeah that's the boot menu
[22:25] <adam_> Then I select my flash drive from the boot menu and it takes me to GRUB
[22:26] <wilee-nilee> adam_, How did you load the usb, and did you do a md5sum on the ISO?
[22:26] <adam_> no. I used unetbootin to but the iso onto it
[22:26] <adam_> put*
[22:26] <aiFrantz> adam_: the simplest explanation came to my head is - redo the liveUSB. if LiveUSB can't, try to make the USB from fat32 to cdfs
[22:26] <gavin__> hello
[22:26] <gavin__> I need helping installing 12.10
[22:27] <adam_> what do you mean by redo the liveUSB
[22:27] <robbie> how can I diagnose intermittent network issues?
[22:27] <aiFrantz> malkauns: this might help http://askubuntu.com/questions/125245/how-do-i-stop-video-tearing-nvidia-prop-driver-non-compositing-window-manager
[22:27] <robbie> my network is bouncing around like a hyperactive child :)
[22:27] <malkauns> aiFrantz, thx will take a look
[22:28] <aiFrantz> adam_: I mean, re-burn it again. try to use diff software, or try dd the USB drive. tell me if you're in m$ win then I'll give you the link
[22:28] <linusasus6> usually it work really well but I remember got lot of problem trying to install linux distro on hp laptop, the best brand at the moment I try without bug is ASus and fujitsu
[22:28] <adam_> I used the mac version of unetbootin to do it
[22:28] <adam_> and I already tried doing it again
[22:28] <Cracked_Lucidity> adam_ if you have a windows machine handy try using imgburn
[22:29] <Medjai> ActionParsnip: it didn't pastebin properly look at the link you gave me
[22:29] <adam_> k
[22:29] <adam_> brb
[22:29] <aiFrantz> good luck trying then adam_
[22:29] <wilee-nilee> adam_, The only thing I would say here as well is that that OS does not have as wide and large amount of support as ubuntu, this channel would not help you for one.
[22:30] <linusasus6> ?
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> Medjai: each link in the pastebin is the file above it
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> Medjai: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1313731/   is /etc/bash.bashrc
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> Medjai: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1313733/   is   /etc/bash_completion
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> Medjai: its thatsimple
[22:31] <brandtone> i'm at preschool lvl using linux/ubuntu 12.10. a different world i need some direction in. i think i've been hacked..anyway to lock it down, or tell if i have been?
[22:31] <tensorpudding> disconnect the machine from the internet, done
[22:31] <Medjai> ActionParsnip: lol sorry I just took a quick look saw a few lines and just said "hey that can't be it"
[22:31] <zeeegis> QUIT
[22:31] <brandtone> lol, yeah, that's one option for sure
[22:32] <tensorpudding> you might still have a keylogger or something running, but if it can't phone home it's useless
[22:32] <Cracked_Lucidity> brandtone: at the first sign of a hack, yank all the internet cables
[22:32] <gordonjcp> brandtone: why do you think it has been broken into
[22:32] <gordonjcp> Cracked_Lucidity: nah, that's a bad idea
[22:32] <gavin__> i cant seem to install ubuntu
[22:32] <brandtone> it's all wireless
[22:32] <aiFrantz> if you know which plug connects the power cord, consider turn it off... simplest solution
[22:32] <gordonjcp> Cracked_Lucidity: many rootkits will start deleting stuff if you kil their connection
[22:32] <gavin__> hello
[22:32] <gordonjcp> Cracked_Lucidity: also, "crack" not "hack" please
[22:33] <tensorpudding> if the problem is a rootkit than it's unlikely that this person would notice it
[22:33] <wilee-nilee> gavin__, You will have to give some details for help.
[22:33] <tensorpudding> (linux rootkits are really rare in any event)
[22:33] <gavin__> basically, there is a black screen with an _ flashing
[22:33] <linusasus6> how is possible been hack on linux I tough is was 90% secure
[22:33] <brandtone> i came here for help not ridicule. sry, as i said, i'm really new to this
[22:34] <gavin__> wilee-nilee: bthere is a black screen with an _ flashing
[22:34] <gordonjcp> brandtone: well, I asked a pretty straightforward question I thought
[22:34] <wilee-nilee> gavin__, This on the live cd after choosing to try it out?
[22:34] <Cracked_Lucidity> brandtone, i simply told you what i do
[22:34] <gordonjcp> brandtone: what makes you think it's been broken into, first?
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> Medjai: yes, that's it. You can see me pastebining the files...... think about it
[22:34] <gavin__> wilee-nilee: its not going anywhere, other than the black screen
[22:34] <rootpt> Hellows ;)
[22:35] <Cracked_Lucidity> i can always recover a hastily deleted file
[22:35] <aiFrantz> it is possible when the user remove the sudo authentication, and installed stray debs from warez.. yeah, I think
[22:35] <wilee-nilee> gavin__, So if you boot the live cd you get nothing but a black screen with a blinking cursor?
[22:35]  * rootpt Halô
[22:35] <gordonjcp> aiFrantz: you can't rule out use stupidity and installing trojan horses
[22:35] <gavin__> wilee-nilee: yes, that is what I'm saying
[22:35] <gavin__> wilee-nilee: it is also a 12.10 version that I'm trying to install
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> !nomodeset | gavin__
[22:36] <wilee-nilee> gavin__, I would do a md5sum on the disc, and ISO, you should be getting a gui with choices, also make sure the cd is burned as an image at a slow speed.
[22:36] <gordonjcp> brandtone: anything?
[22:36] <brandtone> ok, i rec'd an email from our network on wifes desktop, stating that i had signed up for their site a child care site. i did not, nor did wife, although she is  in the business
[22:36] <wilee-nilee> !md5sum | gavin__
[22:37] <gordonjcp> brandtone: oh, that's almost certainly just spam
[22:37] <robbie> how can I diagnose intermittent network issues?
[22:37] <brandtone> the email had may use name which included my last name, which is not in her email address
[22:37] <gordonjcp> brandtone: are you *sure* it was from your network, and not just forged to have your sender address?
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> robbie: when you get the issue, run:  dmesg | tail -n 20
[22:38] <brandtone>  and the password was my paypal and ebay passord and the ending was my house alarm code
[22:38] <gavin__> wilee-nilee: I don't understand what I should do?
[22:38] <gordonjcp> brandtone: actually, are you using Thunderbird or similar?  Can you do "view source" on the message and stick it in a pastebin?
[22:38] <gordonjcp> hmm maybe not if it's got your passwords in ti
[22:38] <Cracked_Lucidity> he can edit out the sensitive information
[22:38] <michealPW> That sounds weird hehe
[22:38] <gordonjcp> brandtone: so this email, this has actually got passwords you use on certain websites in?
[22:38] <brandtone> i do use it, but mostly gmail, but this came to her computer
[22:38] <Toa> ActionParsnip, the output of chroot was "no such file or directory".  I feel I'm missing something basic when trying to run Thunderbird
[22:39] <brandtone> yes
[22:39] <gordonjcp> brandtone: is it possible your accound details have been phished?
[22:39] <wilee-nilee> gavin__, Follow the link to do a md5sum check, this makes sure the cd matches a hash file and is basically correct. I suggested several things so it helps if you name what you don't understand. ;)
[22:39] <ActionParsnip> Toa: try running it absolutely with:  /usr/bin/thunderbird
[22:39] <brandtone> and my home alarm password at the end
[22:39] <gordonjcp> brandtone: end of what?
[22:40] <LinnuxN00b_312> If I am running Cinnamon over 12.04, with a lot of CompizFusion effects customized to my liking, when I upgrade to 12.10, will I lose all of this?
[22:40] <brandtone>  the end of my paypal password and ...
[22:40] <gordonjcp> brandtone: ask yourself this; have you ever typed your alarm password into your computer for any reason?
[22:40] <michealPW> brandtone: I always suggest that you never enter that kind of information in a computer at all.. :\
[22:40] <brandtone> no, never, nor have i, or would ever give it out even to my mother
[22:40] <wilee-nilee> LinnuxN00b_312, My bet would be yes, the cinnamon is from a PPA right?
[22:40] <XiaolinDraconis> wifey is prankin u
[22:41] <michealPW> That is weird
[22:41] <gordonjcp> brandtone: so you've never entered your alarm password into the computer, and presumably your alarm is not connected to the computer?
[22:41] <LinnuxN00b_312> I think so, I had to add a separate repository to install.
[22:41] <gordonjcp> brandtone: that sounds like a coincidence, tbh
[22:41] <brandtone> no
[22:41] <michealPW> brandtone: The company you get your alarm services from, they don't have some silly iPhone app, do they? :\
[22:41] <robbie> ActionParsnip: I have been looking, there is no consistent error msg before "NetworkManager: <info> (eth0): carrier now OFF (device state 100, deferring action for 4 seconds)"
[22:42] <aiFrantz> wilee-nilee if the cinnamon on the separate repo (ppa), what kind of issue will pop out? dependencies error?
[22:42] <wilee-nilee> LinnuxN00b_312, Upgrades are supposed to turn off all repos but stock ones, I would stay with 12.04 if it were me it is supported for 5 years. Or clone the 12.04 first to have a backup to be sure you are covered.
[22:42] <ActionParsnip> robbie: ok, look online see what that means
[22:42] <Toa> ActionParsnip, ah, of course.  Now I'm getting a string of "no protocol specified" errors followed by "Error: cannot open display: :0.0" and a couple more "No protocol specified".  Is that an Xorg error?
[22:42] <wilee-nilee> aiFrantz, PPA's are turned off in upgrades.
[22:43] <michealPW> Yea I'm sticking with 12.04 LTS. I've added/customized so much hehe
[22:43] <JoeBlacken> hi, any one can point me for a documentation on what are the differences between regular mode and safe mode?
[22:43] <LinnuxN00b_312> Well, I was wondering because I am about to clean install 12.10, and wanted to know if I would run into issues when there is another version in 5 months or so. Thank you!
[22:43] <brandtone> it's just that my last name is used in the alloted user name (which was never in her email add) and our password for paypal is used with home alarm password at end for the password alloted by site nvr signed up for
[22:43] <aiFrantz> wilee-nilee, OK... I'll choose to stay if that so. 12.04 is an LTS btw..
[22:44] <XiaolinDraconis> is there anyway to force ubuntu to look in ~/.icons and ~/.themes ?
[22:44] <ActionParsnip> Toa: possibly, maybe X apps can't run in a chroot. Its not something I've tried
[22:44] <wilee-nilee> aiFrantz, I mentioned it was covered for 5 years, that not enough for you.
[22:44] <robbie> ActionParsnip: it just means that the iface went down, ActionParsnip .. it doesnt mean any particular thing is causing it
[22:44] <LinnuxN00b_312> Here is my last question. Is there anyway to force Ubuntu to become like a rolling-release distro?
[22:44] <trism> XiaolinDraconis: it already does, what is the issue?
[22:45] <XiaolinDraconis> trism, themes dont appear in the appearances menu
[22:45] <michealPW> brandtone: Let me try and understand the situation better. So, your wife has a public email such as Gmail/Yahoo and you use a program such as Thunderbird to get/send email, or do you use the web-interface (http://mail.google.com, for example) ??
[22:45] <trism> XiaolinDraconis: yes, the themes in Appearance are hardcoded, use gnome-tweak-tool or similar
[22:45] <aiFrantz> LinnuxN00b_312, nope.. you can't
[22:45] <gavin__> wilee-nilee: I don't know how to get to the md5sum?
[22:45] <brandtone> yes
[22:45] <michealPW> brandtone: So, you use a desktop client like Thunderbird or the web-interface?
[22:46] <wilee-nilee> !md5sum | gavin
[22:46] <ActionParsnip> Toa: if you mount the other partition and symlink the profile to the ~/.mozilla/thunderbrd folder (alongside the other). It may work (you may need to add it in the config to read the 'new'profile)
[22:46] <LinnuxN00b_312> aiFrantz: Damn. Looks like I am going to migrate from Sabayon, to Ubuntu, to get virtualbox working, to migrate to Arch.
[22:46] <LinnuxN00b_312> I have to perfect, and rewrite their install wiki, since it is total garbage right now!
[22:46] <XiaolinDraconis> trism, i used the gnome-tweak(advanced settings) and it doesnt properly change my cursor
[22:46] <brandtone> i only use thunderbird to send/forward pages, etc., otherwise, i use gmail and yahoo
[22:46] <kostkon> XiaolinDraconis, try with ubuntu-tweak or myunity. to install your themes and set one of them as the default.
[22:47] <trism> XiaolinDraconis: yes it won't unless you don't use compiz and use gdm, it is broken in several ways
[22:47] <LinnuxN00b_312> Is there any way to completely strip unity away, and make the Cinnamon Fork my default DE?
[22:47] <aiFrantz> LinnuxN00b_312, try Arch then... yes, the installation process is a pain the ass. I'll go for KahelOS (gnome arch) or Chakra (KDE arch) or CinnArch (Cinnamon Arch)
[22:47] <michealPW> brandtone: Okay.. So your wife recieved an email in her public gmail account, which she recieved with Thunderbird?
[22:47] <gavin__> hello
[22:47] <wilee-nilee> gavin__, Check out this wiki. http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM Here is the hash comparison page, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[22:47] <trism> XiaolinDraconis: you may be able to set it system wide with a bit of work, but I don't really think it is worth it
[22:47] <Toa> ActionParsnip, I'm running in a standard terminal emulator, but I guess that makes sense as it wouldn't be able to escape the chroot jail.  Maybe I'd have to chroot the whole thing and start a separate X session.  Maybe I'm complicating things.  A symlink sounds much easier.
[22:47] <robbie> LinnuxN00b_312: apt-get purge unity  and then install cinnamon
[22:47] <Preflex> Toa:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicChroot
[22:47] <LinnuxN00b_312> robbie: Sounds good!
[22:48] <Toa> Preflex, Thanks :)
[22:48] <brandtone> no, she doesn't use linux. she rec'd the email on our sbcglobal server/att
[22:48] <LinnuxN00b_312> I can do that for now, until I can work out all of the bugs out of an Arch install...
[22:48] <XiaolinDraconis> trism, copying the cursor to /usr/share/icons and setting it with the command line works even with compiz
[22:48] <eedeep> exit
[22:48] <eedeep> doh
[22:48] <LinnuxN00b_312> The install process for Cinnamon looks painless...
[22:49] <trism> XiaolinDraconis: I refer you to my second comment above
[22:49] <wilee-nilee> gavin__, The problem here is that we have to start somewhere to find the problem, it could be hardware, it could be a number of different issues.
[22:49] <michealPW> brandtone: Now I'm even more confused LOL. So your wife did NOT recieve the email in a public email host like gmail, but instead of provided to you by your internet company?  :\
[22:49] <aiFrantz> Cinnamon.. yes, pretty painless but then it is still in "Alpha". Mailed the dev/founder few times and he said he'll work on it this december. He'll work on GUI installer, I guess
[22:50] <brandtone> yes, a yahoo email acct
[22:50] <michealPW> brandtone: Also, your wife doesn't use Linux? Interesting! You're sure her Windows isn't infested with spyware that's been stealing her/your personal information? Sounds really fishy, Iunno mate :\
[22:50] <robbie_> please help me with my netowrk! It is dropping every few minutes :(
[22:51] <gd515> can someone recommend a Good VPN , was thinking about SwissVPN but herd some bad things on em ?
[22:51] <brandtone> no she doesn't and yes i wouldn't doubt her windows pc is infected all over. that's why i wanted to use linux cause got sick of all that
[22:52] <michealPW> brandtone: Alright.. So your Wife received an email in her public Yahoo email... That was supposedly sent from your sbcglobal email account provided by AT&T, which had sensitive information in it? :|
[22:52] <brandtone> we use the same network, which i use wireless, but everything..tv, internet, etc is wireless
[22:52] <brandtone> yes
[22:53] <michealPW> brandtone: my advice is to be cautious. I would guess her Windows system has been comprimised and a lot of information got stolen... I would start with things like PayPal and start changing yoru passwords (From a secure Linux system while that Windows machien is turned off or disconnected from your network)
[22:53] <brandtone> ok, thanks so much
[22:53] <christian_> Having trouble with LMMS
[22:53] <gavin__> wilee-nilee: I used windows to download
[22:53] <michealPW> Then once you've done that, consider cleaning that Windows machine. Reinstall it fresh from the disk, format its main drive hehe. Best to be careful! :P
[22:54] <Toa> brandtone, Change your wireless password as well to something completely different (I presume encryption is already on)
[22:54] <brandtone> is there a way i can see if i have been compimised?
[22:54] <brandtone> yes, wpa2
[22:54] <michealPW> brandtone: but honestly, change all your passwords. Even the password for your network, set by your router and make sure all Wireless security features are enabled, like encryption.
[22:54] <wilee-nilee> gavin__, That link tells you how to check the sum in windows.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM#MD5SUM_on_Windows
[22:55] <christian_> Downloaded LMMS from the software centre and cant find it in the menu???
[22:55] <Toa> ActionParsnip, FYI, you can access graphical applications inside the chroot.
[22:55] <aiFrantz> brandtone consider hiding your wifi as well...
[22:55] <brandtone> noticed yesterday that my mouse almost had a mind of it's own and wondered if it could be a remote access
[22:55] <brandtone> i don't know how to hid my wifi
[22:56] <donnie> just upgraded from precise to quetzal, mactel lubuntu.  Screen rez is disappointingly low.  How do I increase?
[22:56] <ninux> hi there! can someone tell my how to figure out wich power-manager is running in the terminal?
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> Toa: oh?
[22:56] <brandtone> can't seem to get tor running either
[22:56] <wilee-nilee> gavin__, Did you burn the cd as an image at a slow speed, you might just need to burn it again if you have extra cd's or use a usb loader like unetbootin if you have a usb.
[22:57] <michealPW> brandtone: Well, there's no way to know 100% for sure, esp. with Windows. Your best bet is a fresh install. It's the safest, most sure way. You can try to manually clean it out but it's tedious and very easy to miss things :P
[22:57] <Toa> ActionParsnip, Yes.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicChroot#Accessing_graphical_applications_inside_the_chroot
[22:57] <gavin__> wilee-nilee: yes I burned the cd using 3x that is the slowest speed the software has
[22:57] <brandtone> yeah, don't have the tech knowledge to do that either.  hate being so ignorant!
[22:57] <brandtone> trying to learn though
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> toa: ahhh nice
[22:58] <michealPW> It's also very easy for malliscious code to work around you as you're manually trying to clean the system heheh
[22:58] <Toa> brandtone, you can backup some of the files before formatting using a live CD
[22:58] <michealPW> At this point I'd be cautious. First, disconnect that Windows machine.. Then change all your passwords from a linux machine or preferably from a liveCD LOL.. Then you can reconnect that Windows machien and try to manually clean it, if you'd like a learning experience.
[22:59] <gavin__> wilee-nilee: 3x is the slowest speed
[22:59] <michealPW> Otherwise, backup your personal files and wipe the entire thing clean haha :P
[22:59] <brandtone> it's all a learning experience for me, but i get lost with the tech issues
[23:00] <brandtone> ty, i'll look at that link
[23:00] <wilee-nilee> gavin__, I understand, all I can do is make some suggestions, not perform miracles. ;)
[23:00] <gavin__> ok
[23:00] <gavin__> I'll do another copy and download another piece of software to do the copy of the cd
[23:00] <robbie_> how do I get rid of the firewall from system settings? I accidentally got that reinstalling dhcp client
[23:01] <michealPW> Basically, malware on windows is pretty simple. All it is is something has reconfigured windows to start the malware when Windows starts. Essentially, all you have to do is empty the usual lists that Windows checks for things to start, then run sfc (system file checker) which will make sure nothing was physically modified and if so, replaces it from a fresh copy from your Windows CD.
[23:01] <michealPW> You can download "Autoruns" from sysinternals (sysinternals.com) which will show you all the spots windows will check to startup programs when it logs you in.
[23:03] <michealPW> You'll want to skim through your list of services too and disable services that are supplied by Windows. This is where you might have a bit of trouble knowing what you can and cannot disable though.
[23:03] <Regretfulone> how do I install Lubuntu from my Ubuntu installation? Is there a way to do this through the terminal and have it wipe out the old installation
[23:03] <robbie_> how do I get rid of the firewall from system settings? I got that reinstalling isc-dhcp-client:amd64
[23:03] <michealPW> Regretfulone: From a terminal, you can type sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[23:03] <michealPW> I think it is
[23:03] <MonkeyDust> Regretfulone  install lubuntu-desktop
[23:03] <michealPW> Maybe try apt-cache search lubuntu first
[23:04] <Regretfulone> okay thanks guys! I will try that out
[23:04] <brandtone> omg, i'm such a derelict, thanks for all you help, but i don't know what to leave running, or stop in windows..
[23:04] <MonkeyDust> Regretfulone  no need to uninstall anything... logout, select lubuntu, login
[23:05] <Regretfulone> MonkeyDust: yeah but I have limited hard drive space. It's an older computer. 40gb hdd
[23:06] <michealPW> brandtone: Do you have a Windows disk?
[23:06] <brandtone> i do, she does, but it's damaged
[23:06] <robbie_> it was gufw
[23:07] <brandtone> btw, i had windows7 on this machine and got sick of it and wanted to transfer to linux
[23:08] <brandtone> i did and now can't find windows (not that i care) on the partition.  did it get erased?
[23:08] <michealPW> Well, you can download win7 iso from Microsoft
[23:08] <neure> ufff
[23:08] <neure> 12.10 in virtual box is a joke
[23:08] <michealPW> Just make sure you download the proper one for your cd-key. Check on the side of your computer, there should be a sticker that says something like "Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit", you'll be able to download THAT iso and install it with the cd-key on that sticker.
[23:08] <brandtone> i don't want to use windows anymore. love ubuntu, but am on steep learning curve
[23:09] <michealPW> brandtone: Well, does you or your wife play games on your computers?
[23:09] <brandtone> no, but i do
[23:09] <michealPW> Hrmm. Hard to ditch Windows if you're a gamer :\
[23:10] <ninux> hi there! how do i check wich power-manager is running from terminal?
[23:10] <brandtone> yeah, not a lot on this to play, but mostly play browser games anyway
[23:10] <michealPW> I still lug around a Windows 7 installation on this computer, I dual-boot for when I want to play games hehe. I just stripped that Windows, removing every component that's not required to play games :P
[23:10] <michealPW> Well any browser-based game you could just play in Linux :P
[23:11] <brandtone> sweet.  wish i knew how to do all that.  yeah, i do play them on linux
[23:11] <michealPW> Oh, well, maybe you could just replace the Windows all together with Ubuntu heehee :)
[23:12] <brandtone> "Soul of Guardian" is one i play quite a bit.  not the best, but not bad
[23:13] <brandtone> it's crazy cause i have a 691GB file, which i presume is holding windows hostage, but can't access
[23:13] <Toa> michealPW,  I know, but I'm doing all right with PlayOnLinux
[23:13] <Regretfulone> just tried logging in and got this error- Could not connect to session bus
[23:14] <brandtone> that's why i wonder if the linux assumed master and erased the windows os
[23:14] <michealPW> Huh?
[23:14] <brandtone> alright by me, but the space left to use is not even large enough to do back ups
[23:15] <michealPW> That's a pretty big file, are you sure it's that big haha?
[23:15] <ellipsis_> Does anyone have a copy of MS Visio to resave my .vsd file as a .vdx file so I can open it? Because that would be awesome. Thanks.
[23:15] <michealPW> LOL ellipsis_
[23:15] <michealPW> Sorry mate, my Visio is old :|
[23:15] <brandtone> lol, yeah, was 750gb laptop
[23:15] <michealPW> Visio 2003, I think.
[23:16] <michealPW> brandtone: That doesn't make sense. How did you install Ubuntu on that machine?
[23:16] <lec^2> i'm having an odd problem after I upgraded to quantal - I had remapped my keys to change workspaces to alt+f1-f6, but I can't access workspaces 1 or 2. 3-6 are fine, it's like alt+f1 and alt+f2 are ignored. I tried remapping the keys already, does anyone have any other suggestions?
[23:16] <michealPW> Everytime people ask about Quantal for some reason I think of that IRC client, Quassal or something LOL!
[23:17] <brandtone> originally i downloaded iso and ran it. and thereafter have done revision updates
[23:17] <michealPW> Hrmm. So you downloaded an iso, burned to a disk, restarted your computer with that disk and booted from the disk to install Ubuntu?
[23:17] <michealPW> Orr did you run the iso from inside Windows hehe?
[23:17] <michealPW> With that "Wubi" thing, or whatever.
[23:18] <brandtone> had it b4 and was able to dual boot through window bootloader, but this time it is as i said...only linux through grub
[23:18] <ellipsis_> michealPW, Yeah. I didn't consider not being able to open my file after I saved it at work. -.-
[23:18] <michealPW> 'cause I think the way Wubi works is it creates a massive "file" on your Windows drive, which contains your Ubuntu. Terrible way to install Ubuntu, IMHO :P
[23:19] <michealPW> ellipsis_: Jah, I know how you feel. Damned Microsoft and their silly format hell :(
[23:19] <brandtone> i think i restarted iso ubuntu...i know. i'm a noob for sure
[23:19] <michealPW> I had to weine myself off Microsoft's developer tools 'cause of that crap.. Constantly biting me in the backside :(
[23:19] <michealPW> brandtone: Nah don't feel bad. We all started somewhere, right? :)
[23:20] <michealPW> I've been hosing machines down since early in 2000 using this evil Linux distro called "Mandrake" which was supposed to be for newbies haha :|
[23:20] <swex> роо
[23:20] <brandtone> yeah, but i feel at the bottom of the barrel.  lol micheal PW
[23:21] <michealPW> Well, I've never used Wubi so I dont' have any advice. If I were to guess that's what has happened, though.
[23:21] <brandtone> i need to take some classes and buy books
[23:21] <dormito> I have a dual screen setup (1920x1080+1440x900) on Ubuntu 12.10 (through blood sweet tears and black magic I got the ati radeon propriety driver to install and work)  I want to run some programs games (specifically swtor in wine) however the... I believe its called the indicator bar, at the top (especially of the larger display) is preventing the use of nice resolutions (because its a wine program with specific desktop settings, I can not
[23:21] <dormito> maximise it). Anyhow my question is: is there a way to hide or remove the indicator bar(if not on both screens just on one)?
[23:21] <michealPW> My biggest learnign curve was switching to FreeBSD.
[23:21] <Guest84126> Mandrak has a free fork called Magei
[23:21] <mz|`> michealPW: you use mageia now ?
[23:22] <swex> о #eclipse
[23:22] <brandtone> really love the linux ideals and system though.  forever done with windows
[23:22] <michealPW> I learned so much from that system that has stayed with me and been very useful on Linux. Vim, X Server, bash, GNOME/KDE etc.
[23:22] <michealPW> The init system, although most linux doesn't use that anymore hehe but there's usually compatibility for it
[23:23] <danon> my graphics kinda seem blurry on ubuntu with a proprietary driver
[23:23] <danon> how do you fix that?
[23:23] <michealPW> mz|`: Nope, using Ubuntu 12.04 right now ? :P
[23:23] <brandtone> you all talk so freely and understand each other so well, i get jealous and feel stupid
[23:24] <michealPW> haha well in the interests of full disclosure, I quickly googled what mageia was :P
[23:24] <michealPW> It's the new name for Mandrake, I guess. Apparently mandrake ditched the name, haha maybe too many people like me swore to never touch anything labeled Mandrake again (rofl)
[23:24] <brandtone> haha
[23:25] <michealPW> Piece of crap system. Seriously, what "newbie friendly" system doesn't truely "copy" things when you right-click and select "copy"??? LOL
[23:25] <michealPW> I hosed all my data on that evil system :(
[23:25] <brandtone> i'm convinced not to play with it
[23:25] <michealPW> I thought I was makign copies of my data when I right-clicked, copied, pasted to a backup drive... LOL Apparently it only made symbolic links and the icons of links don't make it visibly apparent that it's just a link, not a real file :(
[23:25] <michealPW> haha such a bad experience.
[23:26] <michealPW> That was a long time ago. Linux has come so far for being nice to newbies haha :)
[23:26] <michealPW> Esp. with Ubuntu. Ubuntu's great :)
[23:27] <michealPW> danon: Have you tried changing resolutions?
[23:27] <brandtone> hey, thank you all very much for you help and patience. as little as i understood, i think i at least found a few solutions to places to start. tyvm
[23:27] <michealPW> danon: I know, obvious question but I had to ask :P
[23:27] <michealPW> np brandtone. Good luck with your woes :)
[23:27] <michealPW> Remember, change those passwords!
[23:27] <michealPW> Esp. your home alarm, jeepers.
[23:28] <brandtone> ok, yes, thank a lot. first thing i am going to do
[23:29] <michealPW> Then maybe ditch Windows haha. It's the easy scapegoat but I'm thinking spyware got it somewhere, probably Windows :P
[23:29] <XiaolinDraconis> i shared a directory, it was a an ext4 partition with my media on it, my girls laptop cant seem to access it, although sharing folders like ~/Video work just fine
[23:29] <michealPW> malware on Linux is just so rare... So extremely rare, no home user would have to worry about it :P
[23:32] <XiaolinDraconis> well apparently its working just fine now, maybe, gonna test sharing the entire partition now
[23:32] <asdf__> eloha. Previously (pre Ubu 12) I have used to extensivly use complete on own bash hacks. I.e. "complete -F _apt_get z" Where z is alias to a script that tee everything that happens during install. Problem is that in Ubu 12.10  is that ie apt-get completion is not loaded into env until it is used. A good thing I guess when it comes to resources, but how to force load/or use same load as apt-get?
[23:33] <ellipsis_> michealPW, Meh. I'll think of something I guess. Anyway. See you around.
[23:33] <michealPW> Take care :)
[23:33] <michealPW> Sorry I couldn't be of more use :P
[23:34] <asdf__> I.e. "complete -p apt-get" yield "complete -F _apt_get apt-get" Thus "complete -F _apt_get BLAH" links _apt_get to BLAH.
[23:34] <michealPW> Over my head, asdf__ hehe
[23:34] <michealPW> I'm not even sure I understand the question :(
[23:35] <Hatori> hard to understand
[23:35] <vernon> I just got done installing ubuntu 12.10. I have a nvidia card, and I noticed x was using the nouveau drivers. When I instalked the proprietary nvidia drivers, It screwed up my screen, so that I could not see the sidebar or anything. When nouveau is running, iI notice a thin pink line on the leftside of my monitor. How do I fix this?
[23:35] <asdf__> michealPW: :), OK. In terminal. When you enter ie. $ sudo apt-get install foo<tab><tab>, you get all packages starting with foo
[23:35] <box> hello friends
[23:35] <Hatori> hello box
[23:36] <danon> Hey vernon i had the same problem
[23:36] <michealPW> Oh right, I'm following you now.
[23:36] <tdoggette> What's the most minimal app launcher/switcher that I could use on an old computer
[23:36] <tdoggette> ?
[23:36] <asdf__> this is complete. "$ complete -p some_command" yield what auto script this command is linked to
[23:36] <vernon> danon: is there a fix.
[23:36] <tdoggette> It's a G3 iMac with 192MB of RAM
[23:36] <michealPW> tdoggette: A complee DE you mean? I would suggest either LXDE or XFCE. They're both light-weight desktops.
[23:36] <tdoggette> It's got LXDE
[23:37] <michealPW> LXDE is lighter than Xfce, but Xfce is pretty hot :)
[23:37] <yeats> tdoggette: if you're looking for a packaged ubuntu distro, you might try lubuntu
[23:37] <tdoggette> I want to go slimmer
[23:37] <michealPW> tdoggette: If that's too much, go with OpenBox
[23:37] <danon> Vernon- https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[23:37] <michealPW> It's really got no desktop or anything at all, you right-click and get a context menu and from there you do everything.
[23:37] <michealPW> Extremely lightweight, hehe. Very functional, though :P
[23:37] <danon> use sudo apt-get jockey-common
[23:37] <asdf__> on pre Ubuntu 12 one could simply say "complete -F ..." where ... is result from complete -p, i.e. _apt_get
[23:38] <helpmee> I'm trying to reinstall grub after installing windows.  I did "sudo grub-install /dev/sda" but got this http://paste.ubuntu.com/1313893/ , what does it mean?
[23:38] <skeeter_> Can someone give me some advise on repairing ubuntu
[23:38] <skeeter_> if so pm me please
[23:38] <tdoggette> michealPW, it's for a living room PC. Just needs VLC, FireFox, Abiword and a clear way to open, close, and switch them for non-nerds
[23:38] <yeats> !pm ] skeeter_
[23:39] <yeats> !pm | skeeter_
[23:39] <vernon> Thank you! I will reinstall and use that guide
[23:39] <tdoggette> michealPW, and it does that fine with LXDE, I just want something that uses no resources
[23:39] <michealPW> tdpggette: Exactly. OpenBox. It's quite literally a black screen. You right-click somewhere in the black screen an dyou get a little menu. At the top is "Web Browser", "Mail" etc. and you can launch programs from that right-click menu.
[23:39] <asdf__> danon: Was that for me? "use sudo apt-get jockey-common"
[23:39] <skeeter_> I'm a noob to linux been running ubuntu for a little wile
[23:40] <skeeter_> I did a clean up and now my computer boots to a terminal type screen
[23:40] <yeats> skeeter_: what do you mean by "clean up"?
[23:40] <michealPW> tdoggette: sudo apt-get install openbox
[23:40] <skeeter_> need to know if I can restore without loosing everything
[23:40] <michealPW> I think you'll like it! :)
[23:40] <tdoggette> michealPW, I'll check it out. Might need to compile my own for the PPC
[23:41] <michealPW> skeeter_: What do you mean by a clean-up ?
[23:41] <Hatori> skeeter_, what do you want to restore ?
[23:41] <michealPW> tdoggette: Ah, PPC.. Not sure, mate.
[23:41] <Frost666> hi
[23:41] <skeeter_> 1 sec I'll give the exact
[23:42] <tdoggette> michealPW, Might be someone somewhere is running a repo
[23:42] <helpmee> I'm trying to reinstall grub after installing windows.  I did "sudo grub-install /dev/sda" but got this http://paste.ubuntu.com/1313893/ , what does it mean?
[23:42] <michealPW> I think actually there is, just googling now :P
[23:43] <skeeter_> I ran janitor
[23:43] <RCEE> helpme: Try reinstalling your grub packages, as well as a kernel.
[23:43] <skeeter_> to clean up system
[23:43] <michealPW> Debian has, tdoggette. Just tryign to get the link
[23:44] <michealPW> They've already ported it to ppc and you should be able to install their .deb right into Ubuntu
[23:44] <abdobonna> hi
[23:44] <abdobonna> hi
[23:45] <Hatori> hi
[23:45] <helpmee> never mind, procedure is different for grub2 (had to mount the ubuntu install and pass --boot-directory)
[23:46] <auxy_work> hii~ I was having some issues with an ubuntu liveUSB about 14 hours ago and some people in here helped me out
[23:46] <skeeter_> michealpw Hatori I ran janitor to clean up system
[23:46] <auxy_work> I just wanted to say thanks ^^ tho I don't know who it was, lol
[23:46] <auxy_work> but if you were helping auxy in here earlier, thanks a lot ^_^
[23:46] <snwh> helpmee, you would need the partition number eg /dev/sda4
[23:47] <auxy_work> anyway, I'm fairly certain if I stay in this channel I will melt, so bye~
[23:48] <yeats> skeeter_: do you keep backups?
[23:48] <skeeter_> Hatori I want to get my system back to normal lol
[23:48] <michealPW> Nope, maybe I was wrong. You might be stuck compiling it, tdoggette hehe :P
[23:48] <skeeter_> I don't think so
[23:49] <skeeter_> Hatori I'm new to linux
[23:49] <abdobonna> how can I get ubuntu member ??
[23:49] <yeats> skeeter_: okay - your first take away from this should be to buy some external storage (or using what you already have) and start using Deja Dup
[23:49] <skeeter_> kk
[23:50] <michealPW> tdoggette: This might help you get it compiled, though: http://openbox.org/wiki/Help:Installing#Dependencies_in_Ubuntu_and_Debian
[23:50] <skeeter_> got plenty of storage
[23:50] <c_smith> abdobonna, first off you have to show sustained contributions.
[23:50] <OerHeks> !member | abdobonna
[23:50] <michealPW> Wait.. Skeeter_ what's wrong with Ubuntu now that you've used that Janitor program?
[23:51] <abdobonna> I know I finshed this   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/abdelrahmanbonna
[23:51] <skeeter_> when the computer boots and I goto my linux partition it goes to a terminal type screen
[23:51] <yeats> skeeter_: janitor shouldn't do anything that would truly mess things up
[23:51] <OerHeks> abdobonna, ah, you mean 'member' in your hostname here on IRC ?
[23:52] <skeeter_> I do ont get the ui interface anymore
[23:52] <michealPW> That's what I was getting at, yeats heehee.
[23:52] <c_smith> abdobonna, but what have you contributed to the Ubuntu ecosystem? membership isn't something you apply for with out showing a good deal of contribution for a good period of time.
[23:52] <michealPW> skeeter_: Are you sure there's nothing ELSE you've done, besides running Janitor? Janitor certainly should not have broken your system :\
[23:52] <abdobonna> yes
[23:53] <wilee-nilee> abdobonna, You can show significant and sustained contribution on the ubuntu forums, I was asked to apply with just that alone, but with over 8000 posts.
[23:53] <yeats> skeeter_: did you get any error messages before you were brought to the terminal screen?
[23:53] <skeeter_> Thats all I did, then rebooted
[23:53] <asdf__> perhaps this makes it clearer: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1313933/
[23:53] <rypervenche> skeeter_: It is possible to mess up your system doing that. Did you see what was uninstalled? You should check the logs.
[23:53] <digdeep> hi, using ubuntu 12.10, try to install mysql, but fail --> dpkg: error processing mysql-server-5.5 (--configure)
[23:53] <c_smith> wilee-nilee, dang, dude, 8000 posts? quite the achievement there in itself.
[23:54] <abdobonna> I am member in ubuntu-eg
[23:54] <skeeter_> it boots then brings up the up the log in at a cmd prompt
[23:54] <c_smith> abdobonna, but that's just a LoCo team, doesn't reflect too much on Membership, but it seems to moderately help
[23:54] <michealPW> Yes. That means your X Windows server is failing to initialize properly and so it's throwing you into a shell..
[23:54] <skeeter_> then it's just the full screen like terminal
[23:54] <wilee-nilee> c_smith, That was just one nick I had used two others I would estimate about 12,000 altogether, I have to much free time. ;)
[23:54] <michealPW> Hrmm
[23:55] <skeeter_> ok so can I repair that
[23:55] <c_smith> wilee-nilee, dang, dude! I aint even gonna try to top 8000, I don't spend enough time on any forums to do so, don't have the attention span for it.
[23:55] <michealPW> skeeter_: Do you have access to the computer right now?
[23:55] <skeeter_> I'm on it, using diff part
[23:56] <williamherry> hi
[23:56] <wilee-nilee> c_smith, I did it while not working and getting a bachelors degree, hehe.
[23:56] <michealPW> skeeter_: Oh, but you can't chat here and do things?
[23:56] <skeeter_> I can get on my laptop if need to and get out of this
[23:56] <yeats> skeeter_: please do that
[23:56] <skeeter_> k one sec
[23:57] <michealPW> skeeter_: Yes, do that. We'll need you here and able to work with the broken machine at the same time, otherwise it will be a real pain in the bottom :)
[23:57] <c_smith> wilee-nilee, well even if I was in that situation I couldn't do it, couldn't hold my attention to it long enough, anyway, I digress, this is way offtopic.
[23:58] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[23:58] <skeeter_> getting laptop booted up
[23:58] <abdobonna> Ahmed toulan told me the ubuntu member meeting is in 1 nov 2012   Is this true ؟؟
[23:58] <michealPW> skeeter_: So first log-in to the machine. Once you've logged in, type sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[23:59] <michealPW> skeeter_: That will install pastebinit, a little utility that automatically puts information to pastebin for us to see. We can use it to try and figure out what's going on with your X Windows system :P
[23:59] <wilee-nilee> abdobonna, Have you used the ubuntu forums that info is usually announced there and people ask for references from fellow users.