| d1rkp1tt | Anyone here? | 07:33 |
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| lapion | anyone know why hangul wp 97 files cannot be opened ? | 15:22 |
| lapion | oop sorry wrong windows | 15:22 |
| nog | Does anyone know that hiding users in gdm is broken? (or otherwise changed to something other than the config file in /etc or setting it with gnome-settings?) | 18:12 |
| jbicha | nog: can you give us some more information about what you're trying to do? | 18:14 |
| nog | sure, hide the user list in gdm. | 18:16 |
| nog | edit greeter.gsettings in org.gnome.login-screen disable-user-list=true | 18:16 |
| nog | that does not work.. | 18:16 |
| jbicha | nog: did you restart gdm after doing that? | 18:17 |
| nog | yes sir | 18:17 |
| nog | or ma'am | 18:17 |
| nog | google for it, it is quite the issue that appears to be distribution independent actually | 18:17 |
| nog | but since most people do not have a real need to hide a user list its not brought to the forefront | 18:18 |
| jbicha | nog: could you file a bug? | 18:22 |
| nog | i believe there already is one filed if i am remembering correctly. I will double check. | 18:23 |
| nog | i guess there isnt one. I assume people will not believe that it is a security vulnerability if i were to check that. | 18:32 |
| nog | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm/+bug/1072838 | 18:36 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1072838 in gdm (Ubuntu) "GDM 3 disable-user-list=true does not work" [Undecided,New] | 18:36 |
| jbicha | ok, you can't use sudo to set the gsettings value | 18:41 |
| jbicha | it has to be done as the gdm user, so /etc/gdm/greeter.gsettings should be the right place | 18:41 |
| jbicha | nog: would you be interested in reporting this to GNOME? | 18:42 |
| nog | ahh, i wasnt sure with the gsettings sudo.. i had done it with and without. | 18:44 |
| nog | i will have no problem reporting to GNOME | 18:45 |
| darkxst | jbicha, that is not a gnome problem | 18:58 |
| darkxst | greeter.gsettings is a debian thing, and I think they pulled the patch that supports it | 18:59 |
| darkxst | nog, you probably need to set it in an override file | 18:59 |
| jbicha | darkxst: ah, now that you mention it I guess that file doesn't really do much | 19:00 |
| darkxst | jbicha, it doesnt do anything! | 19:00 |
| jbicha | darkxst: it keeps me busy, thinking that it does! | 19:00 |
| darkxst | lol | 19:00 |
| darkxst | jbicha, probably we should have moved it to the docs folder or something | 19:03 |
| darkxst | it kind of implies that it should work, having it in /etc | 19:04 |
| nog | darkxst: could you elaborate for me? | 19:05 |
| darkxst | you could copy greeter.gsettings to /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/30_gdm.greeter.overrides | 19:07 |
| nog | ahh, ok. let me check that out | 19:07 |
| darkxst | edit it, then run `glib-compile-schemas /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas` | 19:08 |
| darkxst | nog, also not sure the gnome-shell greeter supports that option, you may need to enable -> session-name='gdm-fallback' | 19:13 |
| nog | yea, the override appears not to work. let me try that gdm-fallback | 19:13 |
| darkxst | nog oh, you might to set the override for fallback in /etc/dconf/db/gdm.d/ | 19:15 |
| darkxst | to enable gdm-fallback | 19:16 |
| nog | ohh yes, that does make sense. i remember digging into dconf to see if it was overriding greeter.gsettings | 19:16 |
| nog | in fact when i had done that i created a 90-debian-settings with gdm-fallback and disable-user-list ran dconf update | 19:18 |
| nog | no luck | 19:18 |
| darkxst | nog you set disable-user-list in the schema folder | 19:20 |
| nog | yes | 19:20 |
| darkxst | you just enable gdm-fallback in dconf folder (I think) | 19:20 |
| darkxst | I believe disable-user-list does work in fallback mode | 19:21 |
| nog | ahh, i have fallback mode working now. yet still showing users, even with it in the schema override | 19:22 |
| darkxst | maybe you need to call it 30_gdm_greeter.gschema.overrides | 19:24 |
| nog | will give that a shot. either way there is an underlying bug that disable-user-list does not work with gdm-shell | 19:25 |
| darkxst | er sorry 30_gdm_greeter.gschema.override | 19:25 |
| nog | there ya go, that filename worked | 19:26 |
| nog | thank you darkxst | 19:27 |
| darkxst | nog, np | 19:27 |
| darkxst | nog, its not really a bug, I suspect its more a not supported | 19:30 |
| nog | i think you are correct. but. i would have to find it, there is a fedora thread where a patch for gdm has been created. i am not sure if its done by actual gnome people or the fedora community | 19:31 |
| darkxst | link? | 19:31 |
| nog | nevermind, its actually on the gnome bugzilla | 19:33 |
| nog | https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=660660 | 19:33 |
| ubot5 | Gnome bug 660660 in login-screen "Gdm 3.2 ignores /apps/gdm/simple-greeter/disable_user_list" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 19:33 |
| darkxst | patches in there will be unrelated, however looks like halfline plans to implement it for 3.6.2 | 19:37 |
| darkxst | jbicha, you said do-release-upgrade worked for you? it can't find raring here ;( | 19:41 |
| darkxst | hmm nor can update-manager, perhaps my mirror is broken | 19:43 |
| trism | do-release-upgrade shouldn't work for raring for quite a while yet, not till alphas at least | 19:44 |
| trism | it is generally: sed -i 's/quantal/raring/' /etc/apt/sources.list; till then | 19:45 |
| darkxst | trism, I thought jbicha said it did. | 19:45 |
| darkxst | so yep I will do it the old apt way! | 19:45 |
| jbicha | darkxst: yeah, I recommend you keep quantal-security, -updates, and -proposed enabled until later next week as raring development is just getting started | 19:49 |
| darkxst | jbicha, its just a VM, dont care if I hose it | 19:51 |
| jbicha | yeah, I meant keep those sources in addition to raring | 20:03 |
| darkxst | jbicha, ok | 20:07 |
| everaldo | jbicha, do you know why when you install ubuntu-gnome-desktop first lots of other things get installed but if you install gnome-shell ibus-pinyin-db-android libqt4-sql-sqlite then we have less packages? | 21:27 |
| darkxst | everaldo, there are probably some 'alternate' dependencies in there | 21:29 |
| everaldo | humm | 21:29 |
| everaldo | thanks | 21:30 |
| jbicha | yeah, those are lighter alternate dependencies but apt would otherwise try to install the first alternate dependency listed | 21:31 |
| jbicha | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-gnome-dev/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntu-gnome.quantal/view/head:/desktop#L189 | 21:31 |
| jbicha | ibus-pinyin-db-open-phrase is the other bigger package | 21:32 |
| everaldo | oh God, one bad review of UGR here in Brazil... | 21:41 |
| everaldo | http://www.ubuntero.com.br/2012/10/videocast-20-ubuntu-gnome-remix-12-10/ | 21:41 |
| everaldo | he clain that we don't ship with a package manager... it is not true but | 21:41 |
| everaldo | looks like he is a Unity fan | 21:42 |
| everaldo | oh, he called us "lazy" :( | 21:45 |
| everaldo | darkxst, ^ | 21:49 |
| everaldo | <everaldo> oh God, one bad review of UGR here in Brazil... | 21:49 |
| everaldo | <everaldo> http://www.ubuntero.com.br/2012/10/videocast-20-ubuntu-gnome-remix-12-10/ | 21:49 |
| everaldo | <everaldo> he clain that we don't ship with a package manager... it is not true but | 21:49 |
| everaldo | <everaldo> looks like he is a Unity fan | 21:49 |
| everaldo | and he called us as "lazy" guys :( | 21:50 |
| darkxst | everaldo, lol, but I guess every distro gets bad reviews | 21:50 |
| darkxst | seems to be no end of people out there, that have nothing better to do than hang shit on the various distros/DE's and/or start flame wars in the comments | 21:52 |
| everaldo | yes | 21:52 |
| darkxst | everaldo, I always find it particularly funny when gnome-shell haters review gnome-shell distro's | 21:57 |
| everaldo | yes, this guy don't know how to use gnome-shell and just shot bad things | 21:58 |
| everaldo | anyway, some points are valid | 22:07 |
| everaldo | they say that we deliver a poor software experience | 22:07 |
| everaldo | web browsing, office and package manager | 22:08 |
| everaldo | IMHO, Chromium||Firefox, LibreOffice and software center can fiz all of this problems | 22:09 |
| darkxst | lol, then we get reviews saying "its just ubuntu with gnome-shell installed" | 22:10 |
| everaldo | hahaha | 22:10 |
| darkxst | we will never be able to make everyone happy | 22:11 |
| darkxst | especially when so many of the bloggers don't seem to understand the basics of linux package management! | 22:11 |
| everaldo | what is really crazy is that OSX and Windows comes wihout any office suite and I never hear bad things about this | 22:11 |
| darkxst | OSX users are all fan boys! | 22:13 |
| darkxst | and I guess windows users just take whatever they are given, and are quite content in their little monopoly world | 22:25 |
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