[07:33] <d1rkp1tt> Anyone here?
[15:22] <lapion> anyone know why hangul wp 97 files cannot be opened ?
[15:22] <lapion> oop sorry wrong windows
[18:12] <nog> Does anyone know that hiding users in gdm is broken? (or otherwise changed to something other than the config file in /etc or setting it with gnome-settings?)
[18:14] <jbicha> nog: can you give us some more information about what you're trying to do?
[18:16] <nog> sure, hide the user list in gdm.
[18:16] <nog> edit greeter.gsettings in org.gnome.login-screen disable-user-list=true
[18:16] <nog> that does not work..
[18:17] <jbicha> nog: did you restart gdm after doing that?
[18:17] <nog> yes sir
[18:17] <nog> or ma'am
[18:17] <nog> google for it, it is quite the issue that appears to be distribution independent actually
[18:18] <nog> but since most people do not have a real need to hide a user list its not brought to the forefront
[18:22] <jbicha> nog: could you file a bug?
[18:23] <nog> i believe there already is one filed if i am remembering correctly. I will double check.
[18:32] <nog> i guess there isnt one. I assume people will not believe that it is a security vulnerability if i were to check that.
[18:36] <nog> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm/+bug/1072838
[18:41] <jbicha> ok, you can't use sudo to set the gsettings value
[18:41] <jbicha> it has to be done as the gdm user, so /etc/gdm/greeter.gsettings should be the right place
[18:42] <jbicha> nog: would you be interested in reporting this to GNOME?
[18:44] <nog> ahh, i wasnt sure with the gsettings sudo.. i had done it with and without.
[18:45] <nog> i will have no problem reporting to GNOME
[18:58] <darkxst> jbicha, that is not a gnome problem
[18:59] <darkxst> greeter.gsettings is a debian thing, and I think they pulled the patch that supports it
[18:59] <darkxst> nog, you probably need to set it in an override file
[19:00] <jbicha> darkxst: ah, now that you mention it I guess that file doesn't really do much
[19:00] <darkxst> jbicha, it doesnt do anything!
[19:00] <jbicha> darkxst: it keeps me busy, thinking that it does!
[19:00] <darkxst> lol
[19:03] <darkxst> jbicha, probably we should have moved it to the docs folder or something
[19:04] <darkxst> it kind of implies that it should work, having it in /etc
[19:05] <nog> darkxst: could you elaborate for me?
[19:07] <darkxst> you could copy greeter.gsettings to /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/30_gdm.greeter.overrides
[19:07] <nog> ahh, ok. let me check that out
[19:08] <darkxst> edit it, then run `glib-compile-schemas /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas`
[19:13] <darkxst> nog, also not sure the gnome-shell greeter supports that option, you may need to enable -> session-name='gdm-fallback'
[19:13] <nog> yea, the override appears not to work. let me try that gdm-fallback
[19:15] <darkxst> nog oh, you might to set the override for fallback in /etc/dconf/db/gdm.d/
[19:16] <darkxst> to enable gdm-fallback
[19:16] <nog> ohh yes, that does make sense. i remember digging into dconf to see if it was overriding greeter.gsettings
[19:18] <nog> in fact when i had done that i created a 90-debian-settings with gdm-fallback and disable-user-list ran dconf update
[19:18] <nog> no luck
[19:20] <darkxst> nog you set disable-user-list in the schema folder
[19:20] <nog> yes
[19:20] <darkxst> you just enable gdm-fallback in dconf folder (I think)
[19:21] <darkxst> I believe disable-user-list does work in fallback mode
[19:22] <nog> ahh, i have fallback mode working now. yet still showing users, even with it in the schema override
[19:24] <darkxst> maybe you need to call it 30_gdm_greeter.gschema.overrides
[19:25] <nog> will give that a shot. either way there is an underlying bug that disable-user-list does not work with gdm-shell
[19:25] <darkxst> er sorry 30_gdm_greeter.gschema.override
[19:26] <nog> there ya go, that filename worked
[19:27] <nog> thank you darkxst
[19:27] <darkxst> nog, np
[19:30] <darkxst> nog, its not really a bug, I suspect its more a not supported
[19:31] <nog> i think you are correct. but. i would have to find it, there is a fedora thread where a patch for gdm has been created. i am not sure if its done by actual gnome people or the fedora community
[19:31] <darkxst> link?
[19:33] <nog> nevermind, its actually on the gnome bugzilla
[19:33] <nog> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=660660
[19:37] <darkxst> patches in there will be unrelated, however looks like halfline plans to implement it for 3.6.2
[19:41] <darkxst> jbicha, you said do-release-upgrade worked for you? it can't find raring here ;(
[19:43] <darkxst> hmm nor can update-manager, perhaps my mirror is broken
[19:44] <trism> do-release-upgrade shouldn't work for raring for quite a while yet, not till alphas at least
[19:45] <trism> it is generally: sed -i 's/quantal/raring/' /etc/apt/sources.list; till then
[19:45] <darkxst> trism, I thought jbicha said it did.
[19:45] <darkxst> so yep I will do it the old apt way!
[19:49] <jbicha> darkxst: yeah, I recommend you keep quantal-security, -updates, and -proposed enabled until later next week as raring development is just getting started
[19:51] <darkxst> jbicha, its just a VM, dont care if I hose it
[20:03] <jbicha> yeah, I meant keep those sources in addition to raring
[20:07] <darkxst> jbicha, ok
[21:27] <everaldo> jbicha, do you know why when you install ubuntu-gnome-desktop first lots of other things get installed but if you install gnome-shell ibus-pinyin-db-android libqt4-sql-sqlite then we have less packages?
[21:29] <darkxst> everaldo, there are probably some 'alternate' dependencies in there
[21:29] <everaldo> humm
[21:30] <everaldo> thanks
[21:31] <jbicha> yeah, those are lighter alternate dependencies but apt would otherwise try to install the first alternate dependency listed
[21:31] <jbicha> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-gnome-dev/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntu-gnome.quantal/view/head:/desktop#L189
[21:32] <jbicha> ibus-pinyin-db-open-phrase is the other bigger package
[21:41] <everaldo> oh God, one bad review of UGR here in Brazil...
[21:41] <everaldo> http://www.ubuntero.com.br/2012/10/videocast-20-ubuntu-gnome-remix-12-10/
[21:41] <everaldo> he clain that we don't ship with a package manager... it is not true but
[21:42] <everaldo> looks like he is a Unity fan
[21:45] <everaldo> oh, he called us "lazy" :(
[21:49] <everaldo> darkxst, ^
 oh God, one bad review of UGR here in Brazil...
 http://www.ubuntero.com.br/2012/10/videocast-20-ubuntu-gnome-remix-12-10/
 he clain that we don't ship with a package manager... it is not true but
 looks like he is a Unity fan
[21:50] <everaldo> and he called us as "lazy" guys :(
[21:50] <darkxst> everaldo, lol, but I guess every distro gets bad reviews
[21:52] <darkxst> seems to be no end of people out there, that have nothing better to do than hang shit on the various distros/DE's and/or start flame wars in the comments
[21:52] <everaldo> yes
[21:57] <darkxst> everaldo, I always find it particularly funny when gnome-shell haters review gnome-shell distro's
[21:58] <everaldo> yes, this guy don't know how to use gnome-shell and just shot bad things
[22:07] <everaldo> anyway, some points are valid
[22:07] <everaldo> they say that we deliver a poor software experience
[22:08] <everaldo> web browsing, office and package manager
[22:09] <everaldo> IMHO, Chromium||Firefox, LibreOffice and software center can fiz all of this problems
[22:10] <darkxst> lol, then we get reviews saying "its just ubuntu with gnome-shell installed"
[22:10] <everaldo> hahaha
[22:11] <darkxst> we will never be able to make everyone happy
[22:11] <darkxst> especially when so many of the bloggers don't seem to understand the basics of linux package management!
[22:11] <everaldo> what is really crazy is that OSX and Windows comes wihout any office suite and I never hear bad things about this
[22:13] <darkxst> OSX users are all fan boys!
[22:25] <darkxst> and I guess windows users just take whatever they are given, and are quite content in their little monopoly world