[10:31] <lamalex> mpt, need your comment on a question about the messaging menu spec. https://bugs.launchpad.net/libunity-webapps/+bug/1071640
[10:31] <mpt> looking
[10:35] <kenvandine> lamalex, that happens with all webapps that use the messaging menu
[10:35] <kenvandine> when there is no count
[10:36] <lamalex> kenvandine, yah that's just a failure to update the bug title though
[10:36] <kenvandine> ok
[10:36] <lamalex> not really too relevant to the questions that need answering in the bug
[10:36] <kenvandine> yeah
[10:36] <kenvandine> just making sure the fix applies to all of them
[10:36] <mpt> lamalex, I think most useful would be to hide the item in either case
[10:36] <mpt> since it isn't a source of new messages
[10:36] <lamalex> kenvandine, i updated the bug title just so it's clear
[10:37] <kenvandine> cool
[10:37] <mpt> Does that make sense?
[10:37] <lamalex> mpt, no- it seems like if you're hiding the source when there's no-or-0 count then the messaging menu /only/ shows new (unread) messages
[10:38] <mpt> lamalex, yes, that's what it's for...
 since it isn't a source of new message
[10:38] <kenvandine> lamalex, that is how empathy works
[10:38] <mpt> lamalex, I meant, "hide the item" when "it isn't a source of new messages" :-)
[10:38] <lamalex> ah ok :) cool cool
[10:45] <mpt> lamalex, spec updated and bug report commented
[10:49] <lamalex> thanks mpt
[22:11] <bernie> After upgrading to quantal, i can consistently make compiz crash shortly after logging into my account
[22:11] <bernie> can anyone help me debug this?
[22:12] <bernie> if i attach gdb, i see that one thread is attempting a double-free, but the stack trace isn't very helpful
[22:23] <bernie> bah, i guess i'll switch to some other window manager :-)