[02:46] <bkerensa> slangasek: so I have twitter set to tweet posts from the Planet and it tweeted your post on Secure Boot as a result someone replied saying the implementation in Ubuntu is insecure and likely to result in blacklisting by OEM's since kernel signature checking does not happen in Ubuntu?
[02:46] <bkerensa> slangasek: is that a likely scenario or is there anything insecure about the implementation in Ubuntu versus Fedora/SUSE?
[06:26] <c_smith> yay for Cinnamon 1.6! :D
[06:37] <slangasek> bkerensa: it's not insecure.  It doesn't provide certain guarantees that Microsoft might decide they're interested in, but that doesn't mean it's insecure.
[06:38] <bkerensa> slangasek: ok is it true without the kernel checking that OEM's could blacklist?
[06:38] <bkerensa> slangasek: how is Copenhagen btw? :)
[06:38] <slangasek> Copenhagen is 7:30am-ish
[06:38] <slangasek> the rooms are crazy, what kind of a hotel doesn't give you glasses for tap water
[06:39] <slangasek> what do you mean, "OEMs could blacklist"?
[06:39] <slangasek> in the normal configuration, the OEM doesn't hold any keys that could be used for updating the blacklist directly
[06:40] <slangasek> was this reply somewhere public?
[06:40] <bkerensa> yes
[06:40] <bkerensa> https://twitter.com/fabsh/status/262663495907147777
[06:40] <slangasek> ah, I see it now
[06:41] <bkerensa> slangasek: uhh no cups for tap water you say? so you have to just slurp from the faucet?
[06:41] <bkerensa> heh
[06:41] <slangasek> so no, the hardware manufacturers aren't going to be blacklisting anything
[06:41] <slangasek> nah, I stole a paper cup from the coffee service
[07:41] <bkerensa> tgm4883: hi
[07:41] <bkerensa> tgm4883: u there now?
[17:29] <tgm4883> bkerensa, I've been trying to use my tablet in sessions
[17:29] <tgm4883> which is having odd issues with bip, so I login with tgm4883_tablet
[19:49] <bkerensa> tgm4883: ah
[22:25] <nathwill> greetings all!
[22:25] <nathwill> long time no see!
[22:51] <bkerensa> hi
[22:52]  * bkerensa just ordered five dozen Firefox donuts
[22:52] <bkerensa> :D
[22:52] <bkerensa> nathwill: so when u need help?
[23:24] <nathwill> bkerensa, help/