[02:46] slangasek: so I have twitter set to tweet posts from the Planet and it tweeted your post on Secure Boot as a result someone replied saying the implementation in Ubuntu is insecure and likely to result in blacklisting by OEM's since kernel signature checking does not happen in Ubuntu? [02:46] slangasek: is that a likely scenario or is there anything insecure about the implementation in Ubuntu versus Fedora/SUSE? [06:26] yay for Cinnamon 1.6! :D [06:37] bkerensa: it's not insecure. It doesn't provide certain guarantees that Microsoft might decide they're interested in, but that doesn't mean it's insecure. [06:38] slangasek: ok is it true without the kernel checking that OEM's could blacklist? [06:38] slangasek: how is Copenhagen btw? :) [06:38] Copenhagen is 7:30am-ish [06:38] the rooms are crazy, what kind of a hotel doesn't give you glasses for tap water [06:39] what do you mean, "OEMs could blacklist"? [06:39] in the normal configuration, the OEM doesn't hold any keys that could be used for updating the blacklist directly [06:40] was this reply somewhere public? [06:40] yes [06:40] https://twitter.com/fabsh/status/262663495907147777 [06:40] ah, I see it now [06:41] slangasek: uhh no cups for tap water you say? so you have to just slurp from the faucet? [06:41] heh [06:41] so no, the hardware manufacturers aren't going to be blacklisting anything [06:41] nah, I stole a paper cup from the coffee service [07:41] tgm4883: hi [07:41] tgm4883: u there now? [17:29] bkerensa, I've been trying to use my tablet in sessions [17:29] which is having odd issues with bip, so I login with tgm4883_tablet [19:49] tgm4883: ah [22:25] greetings all! [22:25] long time no see! [22:51] hi [22:52] * bkerensa just ordered five dozen Firefox donuts [22:52] :D [22:52] nathwill: so when u need help? [23:24] bkerensa, help/