| === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za | ||
| Symmetria | hrm | 04:08 |
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| Symmetria | expect issues on the net in the next coupla hours | 04:09 |
| * Symmetria has memories of the issues seen on the net post 9/11 | 04:09 | |
| === SmilyBorg_w is now known as SmilyBorg | ||
| Squirm | hi | 06:32 |
| === Kerbero is now known as Kerbero[afk] | ||
| === Kerbero[afk] is now known as Kerbero | ||
| Kilos | morning superfly and others | 07:09 |
| superfly | morning Kilos | 07:09 |
| psydroid | morning Kilos | 07:15 |
| psydroid | morning superfly | 07:15 |
| Kilos | hiya psydroid hows things | 07:15 |
| inetpro | good morning | 07:17 |
| psydroid | morning inetpro | 07:18 |
| inetpro | Symmetria: Hurricane Sandy? | 07:18 |
| Kilos | morning inetpro | 07:18 |
| psydroid | Kilos they're fine, I'm still barely awake | 07:18 |
| Kilos | hehe | 07:18 |
| psydroid | and what are you up to these days? | 07:19 |
| psydroid | I'm going back to messing with Kubuntu later today | 07:19 |
| inetpro | 29/10 06:09:07 <Symmetria> expect issues on the net in the next coupla hours | 07:19 |
| inetpro | for those who missed Symmetria's posting ^^ earlier this morning | 07:19 |
| Kilos | just playing with 12.04 kde and learning more about making usb startup disks | 07:19 |
| Kilos | oh my inetpro thats not good | 07:20 |
| Kilos | Symmetria, fix it | 07:20 |
| plustwo | good morning | 07:20 |
| psydroid | using usb-creator-kde? | 07:20 |
| Kilos | hi plustwo | 07:20 |
| psydroid | morning plustwo | 07:20 |
| plustwo | hi folks | 07:20 |
| Kilos | im using the creator on unity | 07:20 |
| Kilos | but just twigged something. there is a block ticked that says save documents and setting | 07:21 |
| Kilos | s | 07:21 |
| psydroid | I've had instances in which the creator didn't create correct flash drives | 07:21 |
| psydroid | so I generally use unetbootin for that | 07:21 |
| Kilos | mine has worked fine for installing but battled to get 3g working | 07:22 |
| Kilos | so just made a new usb and gonna check again when i get the energy | 07:23 |
| psydroid | sure | 07:23 |
| Kilos | i struggling some with a rather heavy dose of flu | 07:23 |
| psydroid | it looks like an ordeal to get it working after each installation | 07:24 |
| psydroid | oh, I see | 07:24 |
| Kilos | feels like it wants to advance to kneemonia and smallcox | 07:24 |
| Kilos | oops | 07:24 |
| psydroid | but isn't it spring in ZA? | 07:24 |
| superfly | hi psydroid, inetpro, plustwo | 07:24 |
| psydroid | hehe | 07:25 |
| Kilos | yeah looking at it saving documents and settings on the stick means you gotta get it right first time | 07:25 |
| Kilos | yeah just past spring so dunno where the bug came from | 07:25 |
| Kilos | sure the fly sent it up here | 07:25 |
| Kilos | having flu is like having supper to peeps in capetown | 07:26 |
| plustwo | any one playing with "arduino" in this room? | 07:26 |
| tonberry352_ | i think Kerbero does it in his living room | 07:27 |
| Kerbero | lol | 07:27 |
| plustwo | heh | 07:28 |
| Kerbero | http://www.jpmeijers.com/drupal/node/12 | 07:28 |
| psydroid | hoi Kerbero | 07:35 |
| Kerbero | goedemorgen | 07:35 |
| psydroid | hi tonberry352_ | 07:36 |
| superfly | nice one Kerbero | 07:38 |
| Kilos | lo Kerbero tonberry352_ | 07:38 |
| * plustwo thinks of joining house4hack guys ... | 07:57 | |
| Kilos | i go try kde again. wbb | 08:13 |
| charlvn | Maaz: coffee on | 09:13 |
| * Maaz flips the salt-timer | 09:13 | |
| charlvn | good morning all | 09:13 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for charlvn! | 09:17 |
| charlvn | Maaz: thanks | 09:33 |
| Maaz | charlvn: No problem | 09:33 |
| === zeref_Hidden is now known as zeref | ||
| zeref | *crickets* *crickets* | 14:57 |
| Vince-0 | *ditto* *ditto* | 14:57 |
| === SmilyBorg_h is now known as SmilyBorg | ||
| KilosK | evening all | 16:06 |
| Vince-0 | haai | 16:06 |
| inetpro | guten abend | 16:10 |
| inetpro | Maaz: coffee on | 16:10 |
| * Maaz starts grinding coffee | 16:10 | |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for inetpro! | 16:14 |
| KilosK | hi inetpro | 16:19 |
| inetpro | Maaz: ta | 16:20 |
| Maaz | Dis 'n groot plesier | 16:20 |
| KilosK | whats news on 12.10 dvd's? | 16:21 |
| KilosK | me and kde 12.04 have a love/hate relationship | 16:23 |
| KilosK | Maaz, seen Trix[a]r_za | 16:23 |
| Maaz | KilosK: Trix[a]r_za has been online on freenode since 2012-10-28 18:38:58 PDT | 16:23 |
| KilosK | inetpro, next meeting is kinda outa date methinks | 16:25 |
| KilosK | hmm pta on the map. highest drug monthly drug turnover per month in the country | 16:27 |
| charlvn | good evening | 18:09 |
| charlvn | it's been very silent here today | 18:09 |
| charlvn | monday and everyone is busy :) | 18:10 |
| Cantide | hi :p | 18:11 |
| Cantide | yeah | 18:11 |
| Cantide | such are Mondays ._. | 18:11 |
| Cantide | *shakes fist* | 18:11 |
| Cantide | hey Kilos '-' | 18:13 |
| Kilos | hi Cantide | 18:13 |
| * Kilos sulks | 18:15 | |
| Cantide | ? | 18:16 |
| * Cantide asks Maaz to make coffee for Kilos | 18:16 | |
| Kilos | cant get 3g to work in kde anymore | 18:16 |
| Cantide | Maaz: coffee on | 18:16 |
| * Maaz washes some mugs | 18:16 | |
| Kilos | Maaz, coffee on | 18:16 |
| Maaz | Kilos: There's already a pot on. If you ask nicely, maybe you can have a cup | 18:16 |
| Cantide | Kilos, what about unity? '-' | 18:16 |
| Kilos | Maaz, coffee please | 18:16 |
| Maaz | Kilos: Yessir | 18:16 |
| Kilos | im on unity now | 18:16 |
| Cantide | and is it working? | 18:17 |
| Kilos | did a clean install of kde and cant remember how i got nm to work before | 18:17 |
| Cantide | oh | 18:17 |
| Cantide | heh | 18:17 |
| Kilos | ya unity is trouble free here | 18:17 |
| Cantide | but does it work in Unity at least? | 18:17 |
| Kilos | kde is on another drive completyely | 18:18 |
| Cantide | aha | 18:18 |
| Cantide | do you prefer KDE to Unity by any chance? | 18:18 |
| Cantide | :p | 18:18 |
| Kilos | a bit yes. i was getting used to kde and then messed it up so did clean install and dunno how i got 3g working before | 18:19 |
| Cantide | hmm | 18:19 |
| Kilos | works to cell phone fine but cant see modem at all so no mobile broadband choice | 18:20 |
| Kilos | grrr | 18:20 |
| Cantide | maybe if you play around you will get it right again | 18:20 |
| Kilos | lol you mean more installs? | 18:20 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for Cantide and Kilos! | 18:20 |
| Kilos | hee hee | 18:20 |
| Kilos | Maaz, ty | 18:20 |
| Maaz | You are welcome Kilos | 18:20 |
| Cantide | Maaz, thanks :) | 18:20 |
| Maaz | no problem, Cantide | 18:20 |
| Cantide | i mean play with settings and packages and things | 18:21 |
| Kilos | it doesnt even give me a choice to connect when installing | 18:21 |
| Cantide | but i am no expert on nm and i have never used kde | 18:21 |
| Cantide | so i can't really be of help ._. | 18:21 |
| Kilos | its an experience | 18:21 |
| Kilos | very different but got some great ways of doing things | 18:21 |
| Cantide | :) | 18:21 |
| Cantide | i'll try it out some day | 18:21 |
| Cantide | seemed a bit heavy for my liking | 18:22 |
| Cantide | but now Unity is heavy, too | 18:22 |
| Cantide | so ._. | 18:22 |
| Kilos | ya unity is a bit slow | 18:22 |
| Cantide | yeah.. | 18:22 |
| Cantide | i should try lxde or something >_> | 18:22 |
| Cantide | actually there are many lightweight options | 18:23 |
| Cantide | but unity is a little pretty | 18:23 |
| Kilos | lol | 18:23 |
| Kilos | i used a kde backup to unity and now i got 10 desktops to choose from | 18:23 |
| Kilos | hehe | 18:23 |
| Cantide | :p | 18:24 |
| Cantide | 10 virtual desktops? | 18:24 |
| Kilos | that myunity never worked well for me | 18:24 |
| Cantide | or 10 different desktop environments? | 18:24 |
| Kilos | ya | 18:24 |
| Cantide | oh | 18:24 |
| Cantide | '-' | 18:24 |
| Kilos | workspaces | 18:24 |
| Cantide | 1 is usually enough for me | 18:24 |
| Cantide | so 4 is definitely enough | 18:24 |
| Kilos | i get lost with all the minimising | 18:24 |
| Kilos | now each running app has its own workspace | 18:25 |
| Cantide | lol | 18:25 |
| Cantide | strange solution :D | 18:25 |
| Kilos | i only got one working eye thats also a bit old so i find the easy way out | 18:26 |
| Cantide | ah, cool :) | 18:26 |
| Cantide | different solutions for different needs '-' | 18:26 |
| Kilos | yip | 18:26 |
| Kilos | hows the studies laddy | 18:26 |
| Kilos | min dae | 18:27 |
| Cantide | they are going okay :p | 18:27 |
| Cantide | exams start on Thursday, yay! | 18:27 |
| Kilos | good is better than ok | 18:27 |
| Cantide | :p | 18:28 |
| Cantide | well, the day before each exam, they will go WELL | 18:28 |
| Cantide | haha | 18:28 |
| Kilos | good luck lad. do your best | 18:28 |
| Cantide | thanks '-' | 18:28 |
| Cantide | it's the final hurdle, so I am sure I will make it | 18:28 |
| Cantide | have to :) | 18:28 |
| Cantide | T.S. Eliot is not reading himself ._. | 18:32 |
| Kilos | isnt he dead yet | 18:33 |
| Kilos | im think i read books of his donkeys years ago | 18:33 |
| Kilos | books poems whateva | 18:33 |
| Cantide | hehe | 18:46 |
| Cantide | yeah | 18:47 |
| Cantide | i like his writing | 18:47 |
| charlvn | good evening Kilos, Cantide | 18:56 |
| Kilos | evening charlvn | 18:56 |
| charlvn | i took lubuntu for another spin today but it definitely has an issue with wallpaper management when it's run inside vmware | 18:56 |
| charlvn | further it works brilliantly and very fast | 18:56 |
| charlvn | i am still going to stick to the "plain" ubuntu for now though, just because it looks a heck of a lot better ;) | 18:56 |
| Kilos | lol | 18:57 |
| charlvn | but lubuntu is great for its purpose (small, light-weight, fast) | 18:57 |
| Kilos | what is the plain ubuntu? | 18:57 |
| charlvn | standard ubuntu i mean with unity | 18:57 |
| charlvn | not with an alternative desktop | 18:57 |
| Kilos | hahaha | 18:57 |
| charlvn | the only thing i noticed is that the launch screen is very slow under 12.10 | 18:57 |
| charlvn | it used to be a lot faster even in vmware under 12.04 | 18:57 |
| charlvn | but all-round it works the best for me, even though i stick to gnome3 on my laptop on 12.10 | 18:58 |
| charlvn | kubuntu 12.10 also works really really well and is very fast | 18:58 |
| charlvn | but for some reason doesn't look that elegant | 18:58 |
| Kilos | thats what i wanna try next | 18:58 |
| charlvn | kubuntu? | 18:59 |
| Kilos | elegant is not always important | 18:59 |
| Kilos | ya kubuntu | 18:59 |
| smileE17 | chakra is the best (for KDE) | 18:59 |
| smileE17 | :p | 18:59 |
| Kilos | kde 12.04 made me want to see more | 18:59 |
| charlvn | no of course not, performance is imho more important | 18:59 |
| charlvn | but i have seen significantly nicer kde4 setups out of the box than kubuntu | 18:59 |
| charlvn | not entirely sure what they are aiming for but it isn't bad though | 19:00 |
| Kilos | i just hope the got 3g sorted | 19:00 |
| charlvn | smileE17: i actually tried the latest version of chakra inside vmware today but couldn't get it to boot | 19:00 |
| Cantide | smileE17, what about enlightenment? is it good? | 19:00 |
| charlvn | smileE17: got some really strange errors about not being able to mount the boot partition or something | 19:00 |
| Kilos | i think thats my only complaint on 12.04 | 19:00 |
| smileE17 | Cantide: it's good :) if you choose a good implementation/theme/version | 19:01 |
| Cantide | '-' | 19:01 |
| smileE17 | I tried E17 a year ago, or so :p | 19:01 |
| smileE17 | and it was crashy then :p | 19:01 |
| Cantide | seems your nick is still trying it :p | 19:01 |
| smileE17 | but on Bodhi Linux, it isn't (anymore) | 19:01 |
| Kilos | lol | 19:01 |
| smileE17 | I'm using it, Cantide :P | 19:01 |
| Cantide | :) | 19:01 |
| smileE17 | Daily use :) | 19:01 |
| smileE17 | Just used the Faenza icons instead of the disgusting default ones | 19:02 |
| charlvn | i could never entirely get a grip on enlightenment | 19:02 |
| charlvn | i think it's just something you have to get used to | 19:02 |
| smileE17 | well it's not an easy desktop environment. A lot of options | 19:02 |
| charlvn | it feels to me like the "power user" version of a desktop environment on gnu/linux | 19:03 |
| charlvn | and because i spend most of my time at the command line i don't get too much out of it | 19:03 |
| charlvn | for me it's just important to be able to start up applications easily and switch between windows | 19:03 |
| charlvn | and gnome3 does that really well for me | 19:03 |
| charlvn | if i can "deploy" a desktop for myself with minimal configuration hassles i'll go for it :) | 19:04 |
| Cantide | what about the application stack/ | 19:04 |
| Cantide | ? | 19:04 |
| Cantide | that's the one thing i worry about when changing desktop environments | 19:04 |
| charlvn | application stack? not entirely sure what you mean | 19:08 |
| Cantide | errr | 19:09 |
| Cantide | i mean the programs that can be installed | 19:09 |
| Cantide | don't they differ depending on the DE? | 19:09 |
| charlvn | no of course not :) | 19:10 |
| charlvn | why would they? | 19:10 |
| Cantide | hmm | 19:10 |
| charlvn | of course, themeing is another issue... | 19:10 |
| Cantide | i was just under that impression because many distros have different file browsers, web browsers etc | 19:10 |
| charlvn | yeah sure but that's just a default choice | 19:10 |
| Cantide | and they seem to have "alternative" applications | 19:10 |
| Cantide | oh | 19:11 |
| charlvn | you can always customise that later based on your own preferences | 19:11 |
| Cantide | then i am sorely misguided :D | 19:11 |
| Cantide | thanks '-' | 19:11 |
| charlvn | np :) | 19:11 |
| charlvn | a logical assumption | 19:11 |
| confluency | You can run any program in any desktop environment. | 19:16 |
| confluency | Some people are obsessive about only running applications that "match" their DE, which drives me nuts. | 19:17 |
| Tonberry | gtk in kde is kinda wobbly in 12.04 | 19:17 |
| confluency | If there's anything that really "matches", it's the toolkit. | 19:17 |
| Tonberry | at least with the unity theme | 19:17 |
| Tonberry | acht | 19:17 |
| Tonberry | oxygen theme | 19:17 |
| confluency | What's "wobbly"? | 19:18 |
| Tonberry | well, background colour is sometimes incorrect | 19:18 |
| confluency | I've never actually run KDE, but I use all kinds of QT apps. They run just fine next to my GTK apps in Fluxbox. | 19:18 |
| Tonberry | like when selecting something in nautilus | 19:18 |
| Tonberry | and eclipse has some issue with its tree lists on some machines | 19:18 |
| Tonberry | nothing too broken | 19:19 |
| confluency | I've seen small theming issues, but nothing that actually makes the app not work. | 19:19 |
| Tonberry | gtk2 to gtk3 move is still not perfect in kde | 19:20 |
| Cantide | gn! | 19:20 |
| charlvn | nn Cantide | 19:20 |
| confluency | The theming? | 19:20 |
| Tonberry | yes | 19:21 |
| charlvn | Tonberry: if you do have some issues, mostly that can be fixed by installing a few extra packages | 19:21 |
| Kilos | night can | 19:21 |
| Tonberry | i suspect it is better in 12.10 | 19:21 |
| charlvn | inconsistencies are unavoidable though | 19:21 |
| Kilos | whew | 19:21 |
| confluency | I have successfully themed GTK3 apps without the GNOME settings manager running; you just need to write some files in your home directory. | 19:21 |
| Tonberry | small issues mostly | 19:21 |
| confluency | I've had equal opportunity weirdness with QT and GTK apps because I run neither GNOME nor KDE. ;) | 19:22 |
| Tonberry | i can imagine | 19:22 |
| charlvn | lol | 19:23 |
| charlvn | i used to run openbox for some time, i had some irritating issues myself but also nothing major | 19:23 |
| charlvn | and if i had one application that acted up i just replaced it with an alternative | 19:24 |
| charlvn | for example, if my terminal emulator gave me hassles, well, there are a ton out there :) | 19:24 |
| smileE17 | Enlightenment apps are ugly :P | 19:24 |
| smileE17 | that's why I prefer their GTK counterparts :p | 19:25 |
| Squirm | hi | 19:25 |
| smileE17 | byeee :) | 19:27 |
| Kilos | toods smileE17 | 19:28 |
| charlvn | ciao smileE17 | 19:28 |
| smileE17 | good night oom Kilos & charlvn :) | 19:28 |
| charlvn | hi Squirm | 19:28 |
| Kilos | haha | 19:28 |
| charlvn | :D | 19:28 |
| Kilos | yo Squirm y | 19:29 |
| smileE17 | good night, Squirm | 19:29 |
| smileE17 | :) | 19:29 |
| Kilos | night guys. have a good night and sleep tight | 19:29 |
| Kilos | see youall tomorrow | 19:29 |
| charlvn | nn all | 19:33 |
| === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za | ||
| === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za | ||
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