[00:01] <abdobonna> ok  thx
[00:01] <XiaolinDraconis> well well well
[00:01] <XiaolinDraconis> look who joined the party
[00:03] <mrb101> hey, I have the lubuntu normal iso image and i want to install it through text mode ! could i boot to text mode installer instead of live ?!
[00:04] <Skeeter_lappy> michealpw ok on laptop now
[00:04] <silentmyst> nickserv
[00:04] <djthree> hello
[00:05] <michealPW> skeeter_: Righto. First log-in to the machine. Once you've logged in, type sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[00:05] <michealPW> skeeter_lappy: That will install pastebinit, a little utility that automatically puts information to pastebin for us to see. We can use it to try and figure out what's going on with your X Windows system :P
[00:05] <mrb101> anyone could help me with booting into text mode installer from a normal ISO  "LiveCD" ?
[00:06] <calwig> whats the non ubuntu channel called?
[00:06] <yeats> !alis | calwig
[00:06] <djthree> I have a 32-bit Ubuntu 12.10, you can install a 64-bit kernel?
[00:06] <yeats> djthree: nope
[00:07] <wilee-nilee> mrb101, This 12.04?
[00:07] <wilee-nilee> or 12.10
[00:07] <gavin__> Hello
[00:07] <mrb101> wilee-nilee, its 12.10
[00:07] <gavin__> I have just downloaded Lubuntu on windows, how many MB is a CD-R?
[00:08] <wilee-nilee> mrb101, You can't as far as I know use the mini cd a net install and choose lubuntu, it is a text install.
[00:08] <michealPW> Skeeter_lappy: Did you get pastebinit installed okay?
[00:08] <Skeeter_lappy> michealpw got it installed
[00:08] <blackshirt> gavin_ cdr usually about 700mb
[00:09] <mrb101> wilee-nilee, yeah i knew that but i downloaded the liveCD to install it on an old hardware !! thought there might be a way.. :) thanks i will download the text installer image
[00:09] <mrb101> thanks
[00:09] <michealPW> Skeeter_lappy: Righto. So now type this in: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit
[00:09] <wilee-nilee> mrb101, no problem here is a link of needed. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[00:10] <michealPW> Skeeter_lappy: Then type the address it spits out. To save time, you can just type the number in the address, I already know it's http://paste.ubuntu.com hehe
[00:10] <michealPW> Since you can't copy/paste :P
[00:10] <silentmyst> ok so here is another one of my brilliantly dumb questions... been googleling this but it doesn't seem to give me the
[00:10] <silentmyst>  answer im quite looking for  - so... using the grep command how do you search for more than one word? for example say i want to search a file for the words "brown" and "fox" what command would i use? grep  brown fox filenamehere
[00:10] <silentmyst> grep -e brown fox filenamehere
[00:10] <silentmyst> grep 'brown fox' filenamehere
[00:10] <silentmyst> ect ect
[00:10] <FloodBot1> silentmyst: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:11] <taylor1> hi i have been working on installing ubuntu and when i was done and it asked me to restart, i got a frozen purple screen. it worked when i set it to the easy graphics setting or whatever its called in recovery mode. plz help thx :)
[00:11] <Skeeter_lappy> 13
[00:11] <Skeeter_lappy> 1313970
[00:11] <michealPW> k
[00:11] <Fuchs> silentmyst: they are connected via an AND or an OR?
[00:12] <michealPW> Let me checkout the log, see if I notice anything
[00:12] <Skeeter_lappy> kk
[00:12] <silentmyst> i use terminator and no matter which version of grep, grep -e, or egrep i use it seem to highlight the last word im searching for
[00:12] <silentmyst> so im not sure its actually searching for 2 words
[00:12] <Fuchs> for the OR:  you can just egrep (or grep -E, doing the same) and word1|word2|word3
[00:13] <silentmyst> i want an and command instead of or
[00:13] <Fuchs> ah
[00:13] <PatrickDickey> Fuchs, so silentmyst would say something like grep -E brown | fox filename right?
[00:13] <taylor1> hello? could someone plz help with installation problems?
[00:13] <Fuchs> so all words must be in that file?
[00:13] <Fuchs> PatrickDickey: for an or:  grep -E "foo|bar" file    for searching either foo or bar
[00:14] <XiaolinDraconis> maybe wrapped in quotes
[00:14] <PatrickDickey> Got it Fuchs, so for and it would be grep -E "foo&bar" file ?
[00:14] <XiaolinDraconis> oops wrong window
[00:14] <Fuchs> PatrickDickey: no, regular expressions won't work very well there
[00:14] <silentmyst> im glad im not the only one that doesn't quite know :-p
[00:14] <_cronus_> silentmyst, grep -e foo -e bar
[00:15] <michealPW> Okay.. So your log is saying that it's trying to load your ATI/AMD drive, called fglrx but it can't find it.
[00:15] <Fuchs> _cronus_: that would be OR as well as far as I remember
[00:15] <Fuchs> silentmyst: looking for lines containing both, or files?
[00:15] <michealPW> Not sure why that's happenign, let me try and google a couple terms and see what I can come up with. Maybe you'll just have to install the latest version of fglrx, could fix the problem automatically.
[00:16] <silentmyst> i want to search for "brown" AND "fox" in a file how would i write that command
[00:16] <Skeeter_lappy> What does that mean I need to do?
[00:16] <LostyJai> hey guys, I find that quite frequently even though my system is not doing anything, the HDD will spin up
[00:16] <Skeeter_lappy> kk
[00:16] <silentmyst> not "brown" OR "fox"
[00:16] <silentmyst> just for example
[00:16] <LostyJai> it's quite annoying... what is the deal?
[00:16] <Fuchs> silentmyst: what should the output be? I mean, if you want lines you can actually work with the above -e brown -e fox,
[00:16] <PatrickDickey> taylor1, you said that when you boot normally it freezes, but when you boot to recovery mode it works, correct?
[00:16] <Fuchs> silentmyst: but if you expect a boolean whether both were in there or not, that won't work
[00:16] <taylor1> yes
[00:17] <michealPW> Skeeter_lappy: Do this: uname -a | pastebinit
[00:17] <Taylor> Ohi
[00:17] <michealPW> The gimmie that link.
[00:17] <taylor1> well sorta, it has to be in that low graphics mode setting
[00:17] <PatrickDickey> taylor1, what kind of graphics card do you have?
[00:17] <taylor1> gtx 550 ti fermi
[00:18] <Skeeter_lappy> 1313985
[00:18] <PatrickDickey> taylor1 are you booted into the low graphics mode right now?
[00:18] <silentmyst> well what i was really looking for instead of using the brown fox example i wanted to search for the words "sudo" and "martin" (martin) being my username to linux on my system in the /var/log/auth.log so it would show me any failed/granted sudo authorizations - but i can't figure out the exact grep command to search for BOTH words
[00:19] <taylor1> ah no. im on a different computer. i can boot in now tho
[00:19] <michealPW> Okay so you're using 64-bit Ubuntu..
[00:19] <Skeeter_lappy> yes
[00:19] <michealPW> Righto, here's a link for the 64-bit fglrx drivers (Video card drivers)
[00:19] <PatrickDickey> taylor1 when you do get it booted, type dpkg -l nvidia and tell me which driver is installed, please.
[00:19] <michealPW> For you, just a second
[00:19] <taylor1> alright will do
[00:20] <silentmyst> so how would i write the grep command that would find lines containing sudo and martin
[00:21] <jrib> silentmyst: egrep '(sudo|martin)'
[00:21] <michealPW> Skeeter_lappy: K so here's the best way to do it... From your broken machine, type: mkdir ~/fglrx-tmp
[00:21] <michealPW> Skeeter_lappy: Then type cd ~/fglrx-tmp
[00:21] <jrib> silentmyst: erm, that's or.  Do: grep sudo FILE | grep martin
[00:21] <michealPW> Skeeter_lappy: Then type wget http://www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/amd-driver-installer-catalyst-12.10-x86.x86_64.zip
[00:21] <schmitt9531> I was wondering, is the default ubuntu setup to forward qemu:///session to qemu:///system
[00:21] <michealPW> That will get the fglrx driver package downloading. It's ~100mb so might take a bit of time.
[00:22] <schmitt9531> when I try a qemu usermode connection it keeps wanting to go to the system libvirtd
[00:22] <_cronus_> silentmyst, try this: grep sudo.*martin
[00:22] <PatrickDickey> taylor1 a quick question. Does the computer have a built in graphics card also?
[00:22] <schmitt9531> has anyone gotten qemu usermode to work?
[00:22] <Arizona> hi
[00:22] <Arizona> Taylor: hi I have a problem, uh
[00:23] <Taylor> No
[00:23] <taylor1> oh it doesnt
[00:23] <silentmyst> trying a couple
[00:23] <Arizona> sudo apt-get install runescape_bot.exe won't work
[00:23] <Skeeter_lappy> not letting me make dir
[00:23] <Arizona> :(
[00:23] <Arizona> why Taylor
[00:23] <Arizona> can you explain
[00:23] <PatrickDickey> taylor1 it doesn't have an integrated graphics card?
[00:24] <taylor1> btw i found it earlier but im mind blanking now... how do i boot from low graphics?
[00:24] <michealPW> Skeeter_lappy: Are you typing exactly as I did? Make sure not to forget the tilde ~
[00:24] <michealPW> Skeeter_lappy: mkdir ~/fglrx-tmp
[00:24] <taylor1> no it doesnt i dont think...
[00:24] <silentmyst> grep sudo.*martin auth.log   seemed to work
[00:24] <Skeeter_lappy> I put the tilde in
[00:24] <michealPW> Well, what happens when you do that?
[00:24] <silentmyst> so if your search for 2 words in a line you use .*?
[00:24] <michealPW> hehe
[00:25] <thenewui> hello
[00:25] <PatrickDickey> taylor1 it might be in the GRUB menu, under the recovery mode. But, if you're in GRUB, let's try something else instead. highlight the normal mode, and press the "e" key to edit. then add nomodset after quiet splash and boot that.
[00:25] <taylor1> alright
[00:26] <michealPW> Alright well, where it goes doesn't matter..
[00:26] <_cronus_> silentmyst, not exactly. dot means any character and star means 0 or more occurrences
[00:26] <michealPW> Just do this, then... cd ~/Desktop; wget http://www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/amd-driver-installer-catalyst-12.10-x86.x86_64.zip
[00:26] <michealPW> That will download it directly to your desktop HEH!
[00:27] <PatrickDickey> michealPW: which cards does that work with? Is that the one that won't work with anything older than a HD 5000 series?
[00:27] <taylor1> yayyayayayya it works :DDDDDDD thx man
[00:27] <taylor1> haha fail smiley
[00:27] <PatrickDickey> taylor1: Here's a link for you. If you can get it to boot without that card in the computer, then you'll want to follow the first answer. http://askubuntu.com/questions/167645/ubuntu-12-04-and-nvidia-gtx-550-ti
[00:27] <michealPW> mm, yea it is good point.
[00:28] <michealPW> LOL
[00:28] <taylor1> oh so right now it is runnin without the card?
[00:28] <michealPW> Skeeter_lappy: lspci | pastebinit
[00:28] <silentmyst> i guess im trying to figure out how to search for more than one word in a file, kind of like when you do a google search and you want to search for example "quick", "brown", "fox" it would web pages that contain those 3 words
[00:29] <PatrickDickey> taylor1: No it's running with the card. It's just running in a different setup on the card. I'm not exactly sure how to explain nomodset though.
[00:29] <silentmyst> so that when you use the grep command it would find lines containing quick, brown, and fox (just for example)
[00:30] <wastrel> silentmyst: you can put a list of keywords in a file and use grep -f list-of-keywords file-to-search
[00:30] <jrib> silentmyst: I just told you how to do it for two
[00:31] <demonfire> dont understand these mini cds how can you get a operating system in 28MB http://brig.co/1e
[00:31] <taylor1> hmm when i logged, i lost internet connection, that happened when running in low graphics earlier too
[00:31] <wastrel> silentmyst: or you can use egrep
[00:32] <wastrel> silentmyst: egrep '(foo|bar|baz)' file-to-search
[00:32] <jrib> silentmyst: I think he wants AND
[00:32] <jrib> wastrel:
[00:32] <wastrel> oic
[00:32] <silentmyst> yea the and
[00:32] <jrib> grep quick FILE | grep brown | grep fox
[00:32] <taylor1> dang, i cant get any internet when runnin like this
[00:33] <silentmyst> got ya jrib thanks
[00:33] <michealPW> hehe jrib I thought I was the only one that piped grep to itself :P
[00:33] <PatrickDickey> taylor1 play around with the computer for a bit, to see if everything's working correctly. If it is, then edit your grub file and add nomodset permanently.
[00:33] <michealPW> Iunno how else do do those kinds of searches haha
[00:33] <taylor1> alright
[00:33] <PatrickDickey> !grub | taylor1
[00:33] <PatrickDickey> That'll help you to edit the grub files.
[00:34] <skulltip> can a game coded in freebasic be put into the ubuntu software center
[00:34] <gener1c> what if i told you, there is no spoon
[00:34] <silentmyst> well i didn't think that pipelined grep was working... terminator highlights your grep searches and if i did grep quick FILE | grep brown | grep fox it would only highlight the word fox in the returned file making me think it only carried out the final grep command
[00:34] <michealPW> Skeeter_lappy: What is the output of: lspci | pastebinit
[00:35] <silentmyst> instead of being all inclusive
[00:35] <wastrel> the grep color flag would only work on the last one in the pipeline
[00:35] <Skeeter_lappy> can't get file to dl
[00:35] <PatrickDickey> And taylor1, here's a link that explains what nomodset is doing http://askubuntu.com/questions/207175/what-does-nomodeset-do
[00:35] <gener1c> hey, i am trying to set the default program to open a certain filetype but i cant find it in the list, what do i do?
[00:35] <Skeeter_lappy> gives me 404 error
[00:35] <silentmyst> wastrel, so it actually is searching all 3?
[00:36] <jrib> silentmyst: can't you just look at the results and observe that?
[00:36] <danon> okay so some how im not longer the owner of the file system
[00:36] <danon> root is
[00:36] <danon> what so i so?
[00:36] <jrib> danon: "the file system" is vague
[00:36] <danon> ?
[00:36] <jrib> danon: be more specific
[00:36]  * Regretfulone has successfully destroyed his Dell Dimension 4300 in trying to move the parts to a new tower. In the process also killed his computer with Ubuntu on it - -
[00:36] <michealPW> Skeeter_lappy: I overlooked the fact that the link I gave you was for modern ATI cards. It might not be what you need. First, give me the output of: lspci | pastebinit
[00:37] <wastrel> silentmyst: think of it as filtering.  the first grep filters out lines that don't have quick, the second applies a filter for "quick" from the output of the first, the third filters for fox
[00:37] <michealPW> Skeeter_lappy: That will identify the graphics card you have and I'll know which driver package you need.
[00:37] <PatrickDickey> danon, root needs to be the owner of parts of the file system / and some subdirectories. If you make yourself the owner of everything, you'll be reinstalling.  Trust me, I learned the hard way.
[00:37] <schmitt9531> PatrickDickey: Are you familiar with ubuntu's default setup with qemu+kvm?
[00:37] <michealPW> Skeeter_lappy: Also, the link I gave worked. The 404 must be a typo, I just double-checked.
[00:37] <Skeeter_lappy> 1314026
[00:37] <schmitt9531> I'm having issues with qemu:///session trying to connect to the qemu system libvirt daemon
[00:37] <Guest86054> Hello, I'm looking for some help with my wireless network adapter
[00:37] <danon> im the admin of my computer and now it is saying the premissions of / cant be determined
[00:38] <taylor1> patrick, it seems as if i cannot connect to the internet when i log in thru this nomodeset it might be the fact that it doesnt take input from my little wireless internet reciever. im thinking possiblyy moving this downstairs to a wired connection may work
[00:38] <extropy> can anyone tell me why ubuntu is getting worse instead of better?
[00:38] <silentmyst> jrib, its not so easy in large log files you can cat the original file and side by side compare it but you see so many instances of the words you want to search for, comparing what you want with the original isn't that easy when you want to make sure your getting exactly what you want it to get you
[00:38] <extropy> is my generation running things now?
[00:38] <PatrickDickey> schmitt9531: no, i'm not. I've never actually tried quemu or kvm. I always use third party stuff like Virtualbox or VMWare.
[00:38] <jrib> silentmyst: so create some small toy example so you can understand better
[00:38] <michealPW> Skeeter_lappy: Perfect, so you've got an Radeon HD 6670. So, that link certainly does work. Just double-check that you haven't made a typo. Here it is again, mate:
[00:39] <jrib> !ot | extropy
[00:39] <compaqo> i installed 12.04 on a Compaq Presario 061 PC and i get a black screen whenever  i logoff. that is a major problem. can anyone help me?
[00:39] <jrib> danon: what says that?
[00:39] <jrib> !who | danon
[00:39] <michealPW> Skeeter_lappy: cd ~/Desktop; wget http://www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/amd-driver-installer-catalyst-12.10-x86.x86_64.zip
[00:39] <PatrickDickey> taylor1 as far as I know, the nomodset only affects your video drivers. It's basically telling the kernel to let X control them.
[00:39] <silentmyst> any ways thank you gusy
[00:39] <silentmyst> guys*
[00:40] <danon> how do i get the privileges back on my drive?
[00:40] <michealPW> It's a tricky URL to type, lots of hyphens, periods and underscores. It works though, just double-checked over here.
[00:40] <Ar71k> Does anyone know how to enable a USB wireless network adapter?
[00:40] <Ar71k> im using ubuntu 12.10
[00:40] <Skeeter_lappy> kk
[00:40] <PatrickDickey> danon, exactly WHICH directories did you lose permissions on?
[00:40] <extropy> why can't ubuntu property charge laptop battery on a laptop that was *DESIGNED TO RUN LINUX* ?
[00:40] <Ar71k> my mistake 12.04
[00:41] <taylor1> alright. hmm. how odd. i had internet when i was back in recovery and could download thru the console but evry time i og in with nomodeset or low graphics i cant get a wireless connection. (btw i have run ubuntu on this computer b4 and i wanted to redo some stuff like partitions)
[00:41] <schmitt9531> extropy: run acpi
[00:41] <PatrickDickey> extropy, as far as I know, the operating system doesn't charge the battery. It might read the state of the battery and report it to you, but the hardware handles that stuff.
[00:41] <schmitt9531> tell me what it says
[00:41] <Skeeter_lappy> michealpw is there an underscore b4 the 64.zip
[00:41] <michealPW> Yes
[00:41] <Skeeter_lappy> kk thats my prob
[00:41] <schmitt9531> extropy: I would look at your kernel config, possibly build a custom kernel
[00:42] <michealPW> amd hyphen driver hyphen installer hyphen catalyst hyphen 12 period 10 hyphen x86 period x86 underscore 64 period zip
[00:42] <michealPW> ROFL that's the filename in english ^
[00:42] <danon> the whole file system aparently i mean i can still install programs but i cant write to the file system
[00:42]  * PatrickDickey in American. the hyphens would be dashes. :P :D
[00:43] <michealPW> haha I wasn't sure if I should say hyphen or dash
[00:43] <schmitt9531> michaelPW: in unix we say dash, even though it's a hyphen and not a dash
[00:43] <PatrickDickey> danon, do you mean places like /var /usr/ /bin/? or do you mean places like /home?
[00:43] <omer> Hello
[00:43] <Skeeter_lappy> lol the underscore was hidden bc it shows as a link and its underlinedd on here
[00:43] <PatrickDickey> And danon, is this on a new installation, or did you tweak something?
[00:44] <michealPW> hehe thx schmitt9531 :)
[00:44] <extropy> I did nothing and now ubuntu recognizes that the battery is at 80% why then did it just shut down the entire system over a critically low battery?
[00:44] <omer_> testing
[00:44] <michealPW> Skeeter_lappy: hah yea
[00:44] <extropy> shutting down my computer for no good reason = the best way to piss me off
[00:44] <michealPW> Btw, anyone know what's up with this? It's in Skeeter's log: (EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.so: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[00:44] <danon> i think i fixed it it might just be the way ubuntu has permissions set up and i went back to classic gnome
[00:44] <michealPW> Why would his fglrx object all of a sudden not exist? :\
[00:44] <King_Ozzy> Getting angry at it always fixes it more quickly.
[00:45] <wilee-nilee> extropy, How do you know it was a battery read issue?
[00:45] <michealPW> He said it happened after running Janitor.. :\
[00:45] <danon> gnome session rollback
[00:45] <PatrickDickey> danon, there are certain things in any linux system that you're not supposed to be able to touch without either being root (or sudo).
[00:45] <pouncerkitsune> i have a ? if i end up putting 12.10 on my computer and i have a cd of Ultimate edition 3.4 can i install programs off of that cd instead of the net because my net sucks balls
[00:45] <michealPW> For good reason, too! :)
[00:45] <extropy> how do I know? the warning that says 'battery critically low" before shutting itself down automatically was probably my first hint ... what are you asking exactly?
[00:46] <omerozkan> Hello, how are you?
[00:46] <schmitt9531> extropy: run acpi
[00:46] <schmitt9531> what does it say
[00:46] <socialbug> hello
[00:46] <schmitt9531> extropy: I guess this is the ubuntu channel so you guys all have your fancy desktops, open your terminal and run acpi
[00:46] <wilee-nilee> extropy, Just what I asked, we never really know on the channel everything that happened or what a users knows.
[00:47] <extropy> well since acpi doesn't appear to be part of ubuntu's default install it says "run apt-get install apci" ...
[00:47] <schmitt9531> so do it
[00:47] <raptastics> lol
[00:47] <schmitt9531> you need acpi support to manage battery life
[00:47] <const_antine> Hi, I have a problem setting up nfs share
[00:47] <const_antine> here's what syslog says: Oct 28 20:41:33 firaya-desktop mountd[4986]: refused mount request from 192.168.1.5 for /home/firaya (/home/firaya): unmatched host
[00:48] <const_antine> this is what /etc/exports says:
[00:48] <const_antine> /home/firaya    /192.168.1.*(rw,fsid=0,sync,no_subtree_check)
[00:48] <const_antine> everything looks legit, no?
[00:48] <silentmyst> i dual boot ubuntu and win 7, lately starting in linux i've been getting the message that there is an error mounting my windows partition upon start up but it continues to start fine. I've remounted the partition a few times in root which works just fine, however, i get the error message again the next time i start ubuntu - any ideas?
[00:48] <PatrickDickey> danon, here's a little light research for you to look at http://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ie=UTF-8&ion=1#hl=en&sclient=psy-ab&q=what%20does%20root%20need%20to%20own%20in%20a%20linux%20filesystem&oq=&gs_l=&pbx=1&fp=4fa257fccf8e3a83&bpcl=35466521&ion=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&biw=1393&bih=796 Hopefully one of these links will tell you which directories root should own, and which ones you should own. As long
[00:48] <PatrickDickey>  as you own what you should, and root owns what it should, you're fine.
[00:48] <michealPW> Anyone have thoughts on this failed Xorg logfile? it's dropping down to a shell paste.ubuntu.com/1313985/
[00:49] <Skeeter_lappy> michealpw got it
[00:49] <extropy> if I need acpi to manage my battery life then why isn't it part of ubuntu's default install and why does ubuntu think it knows how much of a charge is in my battery?
[00:49] <michealPW> K, downloaded or still downloading?
[00:49] <PatrickDickey> michealPW: It sounds like the janitor removed a compiled file that's required.  Probably needs to reinstall the graphics driver.
[00:49] <Skeeter_lappy> downloaded
[00:49] <PatrickDickey> silentmyst: if the drive is slow to spin up, then it might be the reason you're getting that error.
[00:49] <pouncerkitsune> can anyone help me, if i end up putting 12.10 on my computer and i have a cd of Ultimate edition 3.4 can i install programs off of that cd instead of the net because my net sucks balls
[00:50] <schmitt9531> extropy: I don't know, I'm not with ubuntu, also ubuntu is just one linux distro. I think they have the acpi module loaded in their initramfs kernel
[00:50] <silentmyst> its a single drive to partitions instead of 2 separate drives spinning up at diff speeds
[00:50] <silentmyst> two partitions8
[00:50] <silentmyst> *
[00:51] <extropy> "rate information unavailable" ... well ... that's just swell
[00:51] <schmitt9531> extropy: in all operating systems you have to worry about drivers and their configurations, I would look up your specs
[00:51] <michealPW> Righto, unzip it type gunzip amd- and press tab to finish teh rest of the filename
[00:51] <michealPW> Then just hit enter
[00:51] <schmitt9531> extropy: what laptop are you using
[00:51] <PatrickDickey> pouncerkitsune: http://askubuntu.com/questions/159341/how-to-install-ubuntu-from-desktop-w-o-internet-access might be a good start.
[00:52] <extropy> ASUS EeePC ... these things shipped with Linux on them
[00:52] <schmitt9531> did it ship with your current setup?
[00:52] <schmitt9531> or did you install ubuntu on it?
[00:52] <michealPW> Skeeter_lappy: Righto, unzip it type gunzip amd- and press tab to finish the rest of the filename.
[00:52] <Skeeter_lappy> tab didn't complete it
[00:52] <PatrickDickey> I'm sorry silentmyst, I'm clueless then. Normally I see that when I have two or more drives.
[00:53] <wilee-nilee> pouncerkitsune, First that is a bad idea second 3.4 is based in precise this is not even supported on this channel.
[00:53] <wilee-nilee> on*
[00:53] <extropy> I've been running 12.04 for months without issue
[00:53] <extropy> now mysteriously it doesn't like my battery anymore
[00:53] <schmitt9531> eww
[00:53] <pouncerkitsune> thanks PatrickDickey
[00:53] <schmitt9531> that may be a hardware issue
[00:53] <schmitt9531> call your manufacturer
[00:53] <michealPW> Skeeter_lappy: Wait my bad, you have to type it like this: gunzip ./amd-
[00:53] <schmitt9531> try to boot off a livecd and see if it charges
[00:54] <michealPW> Then tab. The ./ tells it to look in your current working directory. It should autocomplete when you press tab after typing amd-
[00:54] <Skeeter_lappy> still no go
[00:54] <silentmyst> yea im not too sure either, used to work just fine. I remount the partitions with shell and everything works fine then gives me the error next start up... just annoying to keep remounting to view files in my win partition
[00:55] <michealPW> Well that doesn't make sense LOL
[00:55] <michealPW> Type ls -al
[00:55] <michealPW> Do you see the file in the list?
[00:56] <dougbb> When I installed 12.10, at boot and shutdown there was a nice graphical screen that "covered" the rc printouts ... now that I've installed some stuff that nice graphic has gone away, instead it say "Ubuntu 12.10" with some dots under it ... how do I get the nice graphic back?
[00:56] <Skeeter_lappy> no list to long lol
[00:56] <pouncerkitsune> wilee-nilee why is that a bad idea and  i know that UE 3.4 is not supported by ubuntu its just easer for me to get the all the software i need that way instead of downloading i use sat net so its extreamly slow and very unreliable
[00:56] <PatrickDickey> pouncerkitsune: no problem.
[00:56] <schmitt9531> Skeeter_lappy: have you used qemu-kvm in ubuntu
[00:56] <michealPW> hah, k, try just ls -l
[00:57] <schmitt9531> trying to figure out the default setup on why when I do a qemu+ssh to session it moves me to system
[00:57] <michealPW> If it's still too long, use ls -l | more
[00:57] <dougbb> oh, I'm using xubuntu 12.10 in case it matters, but the same thing happened to me previously with "regular" ubuntu
[00:57] <williamlahue> anyone having issues with 64bit install boot on newer macs?
[00:57] <Skeeter_lappy> no I don't see it
[00:57] <michealPW> Ack
[00:57] <Skeeter_lappy> but I don't think I'm in the desktop dir
[00:57] <michealPW> So try cd ~/Desktop
[00:58] <michealPW> Then ls -l
[00:58] <socialbug> Can anybody here recommend a good book or tutorial on how to structure a gui app?
[00:58] <socialbug> using python
[00:58] <williamlahue> will blessing disk0s1 allow grub to boot? 64bit is dead on mini
[00:59] <williamlahue> ace is 2a ambug, yue
[00:59] <const_antine> any ideas reg. that nfs mount?
[00:59] <Skeeter_lappy> it's not there
[00:59] <const_antine> I tried restarting portmap, nfs server
[01:00] <michealPW> Skeeter_lappy: Try find / -name amd-*
[01:00] <michealPW> LMAO it's got to be there somewhere :)
[01:00] <michealPW> Actually, do it with sudo
[01:00] <michealPW> else you'll get a bunch of permission denied errors hehe
[01:00] <michealPW> sudo find / -name amd-*
[01:00] <PatrickDickey> dougbb, what you're seeing now is the normal ubuntu screen. You might be able to change it using this link http://askubuntu.com/questions/199302/grub-does-not-display-activity-during-boot
[01:02] <pouncerkitsune> PatrickDickey lol that was the wront thing i already have 12.10 on my computer just wontdering if there is a way to put the UE 3.4 cd in and get the programs off of that instead of having to download them from the net that was about putting it on a netbook basicly
[01:02] <Skeeter_lappy> it's listed uder home/skeeter
[01:02] <michealPW> Skeeter_lappy: righto, so that's also ~/
[01:03] <michealPW> Skeeter_lappy: So just do cd ~/ then do: gunzip ./amd-TAB
[01:03] <michealPW> Where TAB is when you press tab on your keyboard haha :P
[01:03] <michealPW> Otherwise you'll have to type that big ugly name again. Meh. Maybe for all the time it took as to get tab autocompletion figured out you could have just typed it hahaha
[01:03] <Skeeter_lappy> lol
[01:05] <Hokar> how can i disable hibernate
[01:05] <michealPW> Hokar: Press your Windows key, type Power and press enter
[01:06] <hilo> hi
[01:06] <pouncerkitsune> wilee-nilee: why is that a bad idea
[01:06] <dougbb> PatrickDickey: hrrmm..  I'm reading that link and it looks promising ... could my changing GRUB_GFXMODE have caused the issue I'm seeing now?
[01:06] <Skeeter_lappy> it said no such file or dir
[01:06] <Skeeter_lappy> it did complete the file name though
[01:06] <Skeeter_lappy> lol
[01:06] <PatrickDickey> dougbb, possibly.
[01:07] <michealPW> hrmm
[01:08] <michealPW> Try just unzip ./amd-TAB
[01:08] <michealPW> Instead of gunzip LOL
[01:08] <PatrickDickey> dougbb, you could try rebooting, and at the GRUB menu, press the "e" key. Then remove quiet from the command line, and see if that gives you what you want.
[01:08] <Hokar> michealPW, im running lubuntu. so no search there ;D
[01:08] <dougbb> well what I want is quiet :)
[01:08] <michealPW> Hokar: Hah, sorry. I'm not familiar with LXDE mate.
[01:08] <dougbb> I don't need to see the rc stuff
[01:08] <PatrickDickey> dougbb, then add that bac, into the command line.
[01:09] <dougbb> it's there now, which is confusing
[01:09] <Skeeter_lappy> ok it unzipped
[01:09] <michealPW> Skeeter_lappy: yay!
[01:09] <Skeeter_lappy> lol
[01:09] <RJ45> I've joined this chan before to ask for help, and always got the lousiest response, please be more helpful with this problem...
[01:09] <PatrickDickey> Hokar, if you're trying to get to the Power Settings, It's probably under Settings (or Settings Manager).
[01:09] <RJ45> Rhythmbox keeps crashing, like, every 10 mins or so, but only when playing FLACs, why?, and how do I stop this?
[01:09] <dougbb> PatrickDickey: linux	/boot/vmlinuz-3.5.0-17-generic root=UUID=e1f5735a-1d8c-4b6d-a2c2-2dfea2731ce4 ro   quiet splash $vt_handoff
[01:10] <michealPW> Skeeter_lappy: Right, now for the fun part. There's a bunch of things you need to make sure are installed. Here's a complete list of everything, apt-get will toss-out whatever is already installed:
[01:10] <RJ45> Ubuntu 10.04, and not gonna change.
[01:10] <michealPW> Skeeter_lappy: sudo apt-get install build-essential cdbs dh-make dkms execstack dh-modaliases fakeroot libqtgui4 ia32-libs-multiarch:i386 lib32gcc1 libc6-i386 ia32-libs
[01:10] <Hokar> PatrickDickey, there is no option to disable hibernate in the gui
[01:10] <wilee-nilee> dougbb, Did you update grub when you changed it?
[01:10] <dougbb> wilee-nilee: yes, I ran 'update-grub' after I changed GRUB_GFXMODE
[01:11] <dougbb> I wanted the larger size text
[01:11] <zombik> hi! How would one find out the capabilities (sample rate,sample width, etc.) of the devices listed by "arecord -L"?
[01:11] <wilee-nilee> dougbb, You did this in /etc/default/grub
[01:11] <dougbb> wilee-nilee: yes
[01:12] <wilee-nilee> cool I wasn't following completely
[01:12] <dougbb> wilee-nilee: thanks anyway ....I'm also wondering why the same thing is happening at shutdown too, would that be grub-related also?
[01:13] <PatrickDickey> RJ45, this might help you. It's a bit old, but it might still be applicable. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1888054
[01:13] <wilee-nilee> dougbb, I haven't followed all your posts.
[01:14] <dougbb> wilee-nilee: When I installed xubuntu 12.10, at boot and shutdown there was a nice graphical screen that "covered" the rc printouts ... now that I've installed some stuff that nice graphic has gone away, instead it say "Ubuntu 12.10" with some dots under it ... how do I get the nice graphic back?
[01:14] <PatrickDickey> Hokar: http://askubuntu.com/questions/143050/disable-suspend-hibernate-via-the-policykit might help. Or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9346060
[01:15] <wilee-nilee> dougbb, What is that some stuff?
[01:15] <PatrickDickey> wilee-nilee: dougbb is getting the text along with the graphics (the boot and shutdown text), and just wants the graphics only (the ubuntu logo with the dots).
[01:15] <dougbb> wilee-nilee: lots of programs, anything in particular you think I should look at?
[01:16] <pouncerkitsune> wilee-nilee: what where you talking about it beeing a bad idea earlyer
[01:16] <wilee-nilee> dougbb, Not for me I doubt I could figure it out to be honest, but any theme installations come to mind as a guess.
[01:17] <RJ45> PatrickDickey: thanks but that didn't really help at all.
[01:17] <dougbb> no, no themes
[01:17] <PatrickDickey> Sorry RJ45. That's the best I could come up with on short notice. Bascially I googled rhythmbox doesn't play flac files ubuntu.
[01:17] <wilee-nilee> dougbb, If you think it is grub you can purge it and reinstall it easily from the desktop.
[01:17] <RJ45> I have both FLAC encoder, decoder and FLAC-tools instaled.
[01:18] <PatrickDickey> dougbb, I think the splash screen that you originally saw is what Canonical put on their LiveCD's. The one you see now, is the default splash screen.
[01:18] <RJ45> I raked google, found nothing, came here.
[01:18] <michealPW> dougbb: I think what you're talking about is a splash screen...
[01:18] <dougbb> PatrickDickey: I have a laptop that has the same version of ubuntu on it, and it has just the graphical screen, not the text + dots version
[01:18] <michealPW> dougbb: Depending on which distribution of Ubuntu you install, you'll get a different splash screen. I originally installed Ubuntu 12.04 and had one, somewhere along the lines I installed Edubuntu and it replaced the splash screen.. Is this what you're talking about?
[01:18] <dougbb> michealPW: I'm sure you're right
[01:19] <michealPW> You can change it to whatever you want, too, as far as I know.
[01:19] <Skeeter_lappy> michealpw gave me error unable to locate is32-libs-multiarch:i386
[01:19] <dougbb> no.... it's not that
[01:19] <Jordan_U> dougbb: Have you installed proprietary graphics drivers? They don't support Kernel Mode Setting, which is required for a fancy plymouth boot screen.
[01:19] <dougbb> Jordan_U: ah ... yes, I've installed the nvidia driver
[01:19] <Skeeter_lappy> all else completed
[01:19] <Jordan_U> dougbb: Then that's what did it.
[01:19] <dougbb> d'oh
[01:19] <michealPW> Skeeter_lappy: Alright, just press the up arrow on your keyboard to bring that entire list up again and use the left-right arrows to move your cursor over and delete that item from the list
[01:20] <michealPW> Oh nvm
[01:20] <michealPW> hehe
[01:20] <Skeeter_lappy> lol
[01:20] <michealPW> Skeeter_lappy: K, so now the last thing you need to do is make a link so that fglrx can be found easily. Type this in exactly: cd /usr ; sudo ln -svT lib /usr/lib64
[01:20] <michealPW> Well almost the last thing ^
[01:21] <dougbb> Jordan_U: ok .... so the theory is that if I remove the nvidia driver, I should get that plymouth screen back?
[01:21] <pouncerkitsune> i have a ? if i end up putting 12.10 on my computer and i have a cd of Ultimate edition 3.4 can i install programs off of that cd instead of the net because my net sucks balls
[01:21] <Hokar> michealPW, PatrickDickey http://askubuntu.com/questions/93542/how-to-disable-shutdown-reboot-suspend-hibernate solved the issue. menu entry still showing but getting a error when trying
[01:22] <Sly> Does anyone know why Ubuntu would be refusing to start on an ASUS Q500A? Can't get anything out of it to show why it's not starting.
[01:22] <Skeeter_lappy> ok
[01:23] <michealPW> Skeeter_lappy: Okay.. Now, almost the last thing. Type this and finish it with a TAB: cd ~/; sudo chmod +x ./amd-
[01:23] <pouncerkitsune> is it a freash install Sly
[01:23] <michealPW> It's two commands. First you switch directories to your home (~/ is a short-form of /home/currentusername/, btw) and then you add execute permissions to the AMD fglrx installer (chmod +x)
[01:24] <Sly> pouncerkitsune: that's the thing. I can't get it to boot into trying Ubuntu, so I haven't tried to install it because I'm not sure if it's a system incompatibility.
[01:24] <hmmwhatsthisdo> Why exactly is the amd driver family called fglrx?
[01:24] <dougbb> So if I delete nvidia-current, my system should go back to using nouveau, right?
[01:24] <pouncerkitsune> do you get to the screen that sais ubuntu and it does nothing afterwarss
[01:24] <pouncerkitsune> afterwords
[01:25] <Sly> pouncerkitsune: I never see "Ubuntu" or the logo. I get to a screen where it asks if I want to try ubuntu, install ubuntu, OEM install, or check the disk.
[01:25] <Sly> I've tried "noacpi", "nolapci", "acpi=off", and removed "quite splash --" from the boot options. Nothing. DVD spins up, goes to a black screen, and then the DVD spins back down and stops.
[01:26] <PatrickDickey> Sly, that's the boot screen for the Live CD. You either want to "Try" if you aren't ready for installing, or "Install" if you're ready to install.
[01:26] <pouncerkitsune> Sly: is it a laptop or  desktop
[01:26] <Sly> Laptop, pouncerkitsune.
[01:26] <Sly> ASUS Q500A
[01:26] <Sly> PatrickDickey: Yeah, I already know that. Trying to figure out why it won't boot with "Try".
[01:26] <pouncerkitsune> Sly: and what version are you trying to install
[01:26] <Sly> 12.10
[01:26] <michealPW> Skeeter_lappy: Once you've done that, you need to run the fglrx installer: sudo sh ./amd-TAB --buildpkg Ubuntu/precise
[01:27] <moes> Sly, cd/dvd/orusb
[01:28] <Sly> DVD-RW
[01:28] <pouncerkitsune> Sly: the only thing i can think of that has made that happen to me is hadware conflict like if i put my wifi card in my desktop it wont let me istall or do anything with ubuntu wont even let it come up thats the only think i can say with my experiance
[01:28] <dougbb> ok, wish me luck :)
[01:28] <moes> sly did you md5sum
[01:29] <pouncerkitsune> Sly: try taking your HD and see if it boots the live cd
[01:29] <pouncerkitsune> out was suppose to be in there somewhere sorry my meds make me a shitty typer lol
[01:31] <silentmyst> one last stupid question for tonight, how do you get grep to search for a word that contains a character such as =   such as looking for user=sudo   or  user=root  or what ever user you want to look for in a log file
[01:31] <MaisonNotarathed> hey, am using IDJC & the microphone is not being recognized in the stream... looking for help
[01:31] <SpecialEd> Hey guys, could anyone suggest the best FTP client that I can use for Ubuntu that allows for scheduling for bandwidth throttling & parallel transfer settings?
[01:31] <Sly> moes: md5sum looks fine.
[01:32] <snark> anyone know a smallish app for viewing MS docx files?
[01:32] <silentmyst> in the log file they are written with out spaces so its essentially written as 1 word, but the = seems to break the command if you did "grep user=root FILENAME"
[01:32] <schmitt9531> snark: google docs
[01:33] <michealPW> I think you need to escape the equals sign, silentmyst ?
[01:33] <Sly> moes: I'm wondering if this computer is a little new, and it hasn't been developed for yet. I noticed when I was looking at all of the documentation for it, it seemed that it was all being updated pretty recently.
[01:33] <michealPW> Iunno hehe
[01:33] <snark> schmitt9531, what about offline voewing?
[01:33] <snark> schmitt9531, what about offline vi*ewing?
[01:33] <MaisonNotarathed> anybody in here use IDJC or is there a IDJC channel or something?
[01:34] <silentmyst> michealpw, you mean \ it?
[01:34] <silentmyst> not quite sure what you mean
[01:34] <michealPW> silentmyst: Yes, maybe that will work? Is it \ or / ? hehe
[01:34] <michealPW> I think you're right, \
[01:34] <michealPW> Try grep user\=root FILENAME
[01:35] <michealPW> I'm just guessing, I'm not an expert heehee sorry.
[01:35] <silentmyst> still didn't work
[01:35] <PatrickDickey> silentmyst: if the actual entry says user = root, then you need user\ =\ root
[01:36] <silentmyst> i know, i tried that... but... it didn't work cause it is written with no spaces
[01:36] <Skeeter_lappy> michealpw keeps telling me can not open
[01:37] <PatrickDickey> then it should just be user=root
[01:37] <jsimonfm> hi, hopefully someone has an idea for my problem: i have a proprietary software here, which can change the network settings (e.g. ip address) of the system, when it is runned by root. When i run it as a normal user, it is not able to change it. I tried to change the access rights of things like ifconfig, but i didn'succeed. Has anybody an idea?
[01:37] <silentmyst> yea see its a line like this Oct 28 18:57:50 Linux sudo: pam_unix(sudo:auth): authentication failure; logname= uid=1000 euid=0 tty=/dev/pts/0 ruser=martin rhost=  user=martin
[01:38] <silentmyst> so i just grep authentication - but out of curiousity wondering how to search for "user=martin"
[01:38] <snark> jsimonfm, what about sudo  mycommand
[01:38] <silentmyst> if you grep user=martin it doesn't work though its in the line
[01:38] <michealPW> Skeeter_lappy: Well, wait. Which command gives you the error? hehe
[01:38] <silentmyst> so im guessing = breaks the grep command even though there is no spaces
[01:38] <Skeeter_lappy> sudo sh
[01:38] <michealPW> kk
[01:38] <dislo> hey guys how do i force a cpu frequency on a laptop on ac power
[01:39] <jsimonfm> snark: i want to run the software as user
[01:39] <michealPW> When you type sh ./amd- and press tab does it complete the filename?
[01:39] <SpecialEd> Hey guys, could anyone suggest the best FTP client that I can use for Ubuntu that allows for scheduling for bandwidth throttling & parallel transfer settings?
[01:39] <Skeeter_lappy> all but the ext
[01:39] <michealPW> Oh okay, so then type .run for the ext
[01:39] <michealPW> Then a space, then --buildpkg Ubuntu/precise
[01:40] <bellmajill> hello
[01:40] <Skeeter_lappy> the ext when it was unzip was run
[01:40] <Skeeter_lappy> kk
[01:40] <snark> jsimonfm,    at a guess  I thin networking tols can only be run as root --   but sudo allows users to run *the  program* as if they were root
[01:40] <MaisonNotarathed> does anybody in here do any online streaming or DJing?
[01:40] <snark> jsimonfm,    at a guess  I think networking tools can only be run as root --   but sudo allows users to run *the  program* as if they were root
[01:40] <michealPW> Skeeter_lappy: Sorry, I should have warned you. Tab will stop if there's more than one file. Now there's a .zip and a .run heehee so it didn't fill the extension :)
[01:40] <h00k> SpecialEd: I don't know about scheduling throttling, but maybe gftp will
[01:40] <MaisonNotarathed> am having problems with IDJC... it's not recognizing my microphone
[01:40] <silentmyst> patrickdickey?
[01:41] <h00k> MaisonNotarathed: does your microphone work with any other application?
[01:41] <MaisonNotarathed> h00k, not certain man
[01:42] <MaisonNotarathed> the microphone makes sound on the speakers
[01:42] <h00k> MaisonNotarathed: I'd give it a shot, open your sound preferences and see if it's registering any input there
[01:42] <MaisonNotarathed> though it doesn't work over the stream for some reason
[01:42] <jsimonfm> snark: that's right, but when i change the access rights of the networking tools, also an user can run it. i think i haven't found the right tool, as i don't know, which the software uses
[01:42] <Skeeter_lappy> michealpw got an error
[01:42] <MaisonNotarathed> yeah h00k, it registers input & output
[01:43] <michealPW> Skeeter_lappy: Hrmm, was it a big error? Try pressing your up arrow to get the command back and add: | pastebinit to the end
[01:43] <Sly> moes: I think I was right about it being pretty new. The CPU it's using was released in Q2 of this year. Probably just throw it in a virtualbox until it's supported natively.
[01:43] <michealPW> To pipe the output to pastebinit, then I can read what it says :P
[01:43] <snark> jsimonfm, one shouldnt really change permissions   thats what sudo is for and its much safer to use sudo
[01:44] <jsimonfm> snark: It's an ubuntu minimal installation, and this device should only run this one programm
[01:44] <michealPW> So the whole command will look like sudo sh ./amd-driver-linux-8xxx-etc.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/precise | pastebinit
[01:45] <Skeeter_lappy> 1314119
[01:45] <dougbb> Ok, that was partially successful :)
[01:45] <snark> jsimonfm, can I ask what your trying to achieve?
[01:45] <dougbb> no splash screen at boot, but it's back on shutdown now ... I'm going to try without the 640x480 and see if that fixes the boot ... at least now it's a blank screen, instead of ugly text
[01:46] <dougbb> so anyone knowledgeable about ubuntu + compiz?  I installed compiz, and everything is working well except the disappearing panel I had on the side of my screen, it won't reappear
[01:47] <michealPW> Hrmm
[01:47] <michealPW> Well that's upsetting.
[01:47] <michealPW> Unable to resolve  dh-modaliases execstack.  Please manually install and try again.
[01:47] <michealPW> :|
[01:47] <dougbb> the panel on the top, which is also set to disappear, works fine
[01:47] <Skeeter_lappy> :(
[01:48] <Skeeter_lappy> brb 1 sec
[01:48] <jsimonfm> snark: What i'm working on is this: a device that boots into an minimal Ubuntu with X and openbox, the software is autostarted and should be the only thing, the device is running
[01:48] <michealPW> Oh wait
[01:49] <michealPW> So according to a few forum posts, that's because you already have fglrx installed, or a broken fglrx installed. First we need to completely remove fglrx from the system then run that script again and people have replied that that works.
[01:49] <snark> jsimonfm,  and what *software* is this?
[01:49] <michealPW> SO! Ready to remove fglrx? Let me know when you're back, Skeeter_lappy.
[01:49] <jsimonfm> snark: My last problem is this network setting issue, anything else works
[01:49] <dougbb> I also have a dmraid question ... I have a hardware raid that shows up fine, and works well, but sometimes it's /dev/dm-0, and sometimes it's /dev/dm-1 ... any way to lock it down?
[01:49] <|Anthony|> how do i get clamtk to quarantine files? it has a quarantine view, but no option to automatically quarantine files it finds
[01:50] <Skeeter_lappy> back
[01:50] <jsimonfm> snark: It's an control software for an lighting control console
[01:50] <michealPW> kk
[01:51] <|Anthony|> clamscan has a --move=dir cli option. but i don't see that implemented in clamtk
[01:51] <michealPW> Skeeter_lappy: sudo apt-get remove --purge fglrx fglrx_* fglrx-amdcccle* fglrx-dev*
[01:51] <snark> jsimonfm, and what network setting is it trying to set?
[01:52] <michealPW> Skeeter_lappy: That will completely remove fglrx. Then use your up arrow, press it about 2 times to get that sudo sh ./amd-driver-installer-8.xxx.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/precise from the command history :P
[01:52] <|Anthony|> nm
[01:53] <snark> jsimonfm, and what is a "lighting control console"?
[01:53] <jsimonfm> snark: acually the normal ones like for eth0 on the ubuntu box, it is used for some light control protocols
[01:54] <Skeeter_lappy> swame thing
[01:54] <hmmwhatsthisdo> so, as dumb as it sounds, how come the AMD/ATI graphics driver family is call fglrx?
[01:54] <Skeeter_lappy> same*
[01:54] <hmmwhatsthisdo> oh wait, nvm
[01:55] <hmmwhatsthisdo> FireGL and Radeon for X, apparently
[01:55] <jsimonfm> snark: a controller for lamps in theaters for example: http://chamsys.co.uk/products
[01:55] <michealPW> Skeeter_lappy: Even after purging fglrx? :\
[01:55] <snark> jsimonfm, ok that make s a bit more sense to me!
[01:56] <Skeeter_lappy> typed exactly what you put in
[01:56] <dougbb> interesting, if I put the disappearing panel horizontal, it works
[01:57] <michealPW> I have an idea, hehe
[01:57] <michealPW> try sudo apt-get install execstack
[01:57] <michealPW> hehe
[01:57] <con-man> anyone know of an app for burning mkv files to a DVD disc that can be played in a regular DVD player?
[01:58] <michealPW> If that finds and installs something, then try the sudo sh command again (Should be up arrow twice)
[01:59] <Skeeter_lappy> same thing
[01:59] <Skeeter_lappy> it did install execstack
[02:00] <michealPW> It found and installed it? Hrmm!
[02:00] <michealPW> Try sudo apt-get install dh-modaliases
[02:00] <Skeeter_lappy> it pauses at unable to resolve dh_modaliases
[02:00] <bazhang> con-man, perhaps devede
[02:00] <snark> con-man, mkv are just normal files as far as the dvd burner is concerned    no?
[02:00] <con-man> yeah google suggested devede installing now
[02:01] <dougbb> I have a dmraid question ... I have a hardware raid that shows up fine, and works well, but sometimes it's /dev/dm-0, and sometimes it's /dev/dm-1 ... any way to lock it down?
[02:02] <michealPW> Skeeter_lappy: If it finds and installs dh-modaliases try this, 'cause we must have missed a step hehe: sudo apt-get install build-essential cdbs dh-make dkms fakeroot
[02:03] <Skeeter_lappy> we put that in there
[02:03] <Skeeter_lappy> it's sitting at generating package
[02:03] <michealPW> I thought we did, but dunno why it would have installed execstack hehe should have been in there too with dh-modaliases
[02:04] <Skeeter_lappy> I think everything went this time
[02:05] <michealPW> So try that sudo sh command one more time
[02:05] <Skeeter_lappy> generateds 3 pkg and removed temp dir
[02:05] <michealPW> And see if it doesn't throw the same exception about dh-modaliases and execstack hehe
[02:05] <michealPW> Oh sweet, good. So now you're almost done.
[02:06] <Skeeter_lappy> hang on I just ran the sudo again for ya
[02:06] <Skeeter_lappy> lol
[02:06] <michealPW> So, now type sudo dpkg -i fglrx*.deb
[02:06] <michealPW> That will install the 3 pkgs it built, which is your fglrx. I thought there was 4, though?
[02:06] <michealPW> Meh
[02:07] <Preflex> who
[02:07] <michealPW> Maybe it's just 3
[02:07] <michealPW> Yea I guess that makes sense. There's the control center, the kernel module and the other thingy
[02:09] <Skeeter_lappy> looks like that went with no errors
[02:09] <michealPW> Excellent. Now type this: sudo amdconfig --initial -f
[02:09] <Skeeter_lappy> wait
[02:09] <michealPW> ?
[02:10] <bearly230> Hello, all I have what I hope is an easy fix question. I have a centos server with a group made, and users added to the group.  But my ubuntu 12.04 desktop clients can't access the folder over nfs. Any sugestions?
[02:10] <Skeeter_lappy> errors were encountered while processing: fglrx-installer_9.002-ounbuntu1_amd64.changes
[02:11] <michealPW> Hrmm
[02:11] <Skeeter_lappy> o=0
[02:11] <michealPW> Try sudo apt-get update
[02:12] <Skeeter_lappy> reading package lists done
[02:12] <michealPW> It didn't complain about any broken packages or anything?
[02:12] <Jisawesome2> Run it again
[02:12] <michealPW> Or sudo apt-get check
[02:12] <Skeeter_lappy> no
[02:13] <Skeeter_lappy> no complaints
[02:13] <michealPW> k, then do sudo amdconfig --initial -f
[02:13] <Jisawesome2> Try the command again skeeter
[02:13] <Skeeter_lappy> which cmd?
[02:14] <Jisawesome2> The one that returned the error
[02:14] <Skeeter_lappy> kk
[02:14] <michealPW> Oh the dpkg, yea run that again actually. Wont hurt. Dpkg can't handle dependencies so if it selected those packages in the wrong order it might have failed to intsall one. Runnign the command again will select and install whichever one got left behind.
[02:15] <michealPW> Good catch,  Jisawesome2:)
[02:16] <Skeeter_lappy> same error
[02:16] <bearly230> Hello, all I have what I hope is an easy fix question. I have a centos server with a group made, and users added to the group.  But my ubuntu 12.04 desktop clients can't access the folder over nfs. Any sugestions?
[02:17] <michealPW> hrmm
[02:17] <michealPW> Skeeter_lappy: Maybe we have better luck with aptitude? Try sudo apt-get install aptitude
[02:17] <Skeeter_lappy> kk
[02:18] <OerHeks> carefull with aptitude & 64 bit
[02:18] <OerHeks> !aptitude
[02:18] <michealPW> Really? :(
[02:18] <chronik-rootz> http://imgur.com/PnIDY    done, wooot.
[02:18] <onitaL> bearly230, can ubuntu ping the server? what's the fstab line for that nfs mount?
[02:18] <OerHeks> "apt-get install -f " will force broken packages
[02:18] <michealPW> Hrmm, thx OerHeks. He's getting errors using dpkg to install the fglrx .deb he built with amd's fglrx installer. How should we get it in? :\
[02:19] <bearly230> onitaL: I can get to the server however I can't get into the folder owned by the group.
[02:19] <bearly230> onitaL: IE I can get into my personal folder on the centos server but, not allowed to get into the other folder.
[02:19] <michealPW> Ah, k. So he should just do apt-get install -f to fix that broken package?
[02:20] <Skeeter_lappy> ??
[02:20] <michealPW> Skeeter_lappy: K so aptitude has problems with 64-bit. If you did install it, remove it with sudo apt-get remove aptitude. OerHeks says you can fix that error with sudo apt-get install -f
[02:20] <Skeeter_lappy> didn't install it
[02:20] <michealPW> K, so just type sudo apt-get install -f
[02:20] <Skeeter_lappy> kk
[02:21] <onitaL> oh, what's the permises of that folder, bearly230 ?   ls -la /that/folder/
[02:21] <onitaL> +in the server
[02:21] <KM0201> why would you force install a package?  if it won't install w/o -f  investigate way
[02:21] <KM0201> *why
[02:21] <onitaL> ya, "-f" isn't force, but fix
[02:21] <Skeeter_lappy> it did't upgrade install or remove anything
[02:21] <bearly230> onitaL: I've got the same uid on both server and client. The folder has write/read/execute for all group members.
[02:21] <KM0201> hmm, i thought it was force.. ok.
[02:21] <onitaL> you're not using jedi power there yet
[02:22] <michealPW> Hrmm, well..
[02:22] <michealPW> *thinks*
[02:22] <michealPW> Well lets see if it's working, anyways hehe..
[02:22] <michealPW> Do: sudo amdconfig --initial -f
[02:22] <|Anthony|> why is my firefox making several connections to 127.0.0.1
[02:22] <michealPW> Then type startx
[02:22] <i3luefire> how can i make a couple of cmds run every time i restart my server?
[02:23] <xenome> if I wanted to restart network manager, is there any way to truly do that w/o rebooting?  Once I loose the network manager widget in my menubar, I never seem capable of getting it back
[02:24] <Skeeter_lappy> S**T errors
[02:24] <michealPW> Errors from amdconfig, or startx?
[02:24] <Skeeter_lappy> startx
[02:24] <michealPW> What did X say?
[02:25] <michealPW> Try fglrxinfo
[02:25] <Skeeter_lappy> a lot
[02:25] <Skeeter_lappy> lmao
[02:25] <michealPW> LOL k, just do fglrxinfo | pastebinit
[02:25] <dougbb> i3luefire: /etc/rc.local
[02:25] <michealPW> Then startx | pastebinit
[02:25] <michealPW> hehe
[02:25] <rald> why mini ubuntu iso hardy heron doesn't work any more?
[02:25] <norwack> How can  update my Ralink rt2800pci wireless card with the latest drivers? or where can i find the source of the driver?
[02:26] <Skeeter_lappy> fglrxinfo is empty doc
[02:26] <onitaL> !nfs
[02:26] <michealPW> hah
[02:27] <michealPW> Well, I'm guessing fglrx didn't get installed, hense the error. fiddle sticks!
[02:27] <michealPW> Darnit! LOL :(
[02:27] <Skeeter_lappy> both say empty doc
[02:27] <michealPW> That's weird!
[02:27] <Skeeter_lappy> lol
[02:27] <michealPW> Maybe I did that wrong for startx
[02:27] <michealPW> Maybe you'd use startx >> pastebinit
[02:27] <michealPW> ?
[02:27] <bearly230> onitaL: permissions on folder are drwx------.  4 ksradmin ksradmin  4096 Oct 28 18:57 ksradmin
[02:28] <onitaL> bearly230, ahhh, it has 0 as group permission
[02:28] <michealPW> I guess you could just cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit
[02:28] <michealPW> HEEHEE!
[02:28] <bearly230> onitaL: yep I see that now. Getting late here hehe
[02:28] <michealPW> Skeeter_lappy: K, so just do cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit
[02:28] <onitaL> no problem, it's been a while since I used nfs. I use samba
[02:29] <kevin^> hi all. is there a way i can copy my file system from one drive to another?
[02:29] <michealPW> kevin^: dd
[02:29] <rald> does ubuntu have floppy installer?
[02:29] <michealPW> kevin^: From a terminal, type man dd
[02:29] <onitaL> and I thought it had to do with /etc/host.export or something lke that, but also thought the permises were wrong
[02:29] <steven-> rald, i don't think so ; )
[02:29] <michealPW> rald: Almost certainly no. Floppy's are extremely small. You could put something like Debian's netinst on a floppy, but that's not Ubuntu heehee!
[02:30] <kevin^> michealPW: the destination partition is smaller than the source partition, but the actual disk usage isn't. would that still work? basically, moving my root partition from a 500gb partition to a 40gig SSD partition...
[02:30] <LOrdNAXO> hola
[02:30] <steven-> michealPW, i even doubt that ubuntu netinst will fit on a floppy :P
[02:30] <Skeeter_lappy> michealpw 1314195
[02:30] <kevin^> but only has ~15gb usage
[02:30] <michealPW> netinst is just basically enough to get the system up and running and downloading the rest of teh required stuff heehee. I'm not even sure if you can get netinst on a floppy, though :\
[02:30] <LOrdNAXO> alguien de Chile por estos lados??
[02:30] <michealPW> steven-: haha you're probably right.
[02:30] <bearly230> onitaL: got permissions changed on server folder guess I have to restart client to get it to update.
[02:30] <michealPW> k, thx Skeeter_lappy. Lets see if I can figure this out :| http://paste.ubuntu.com/1314195
[02:31] <onitaL> bearly230, I dont' think so
[02:31] <kevin^> hrrrm gonna try something.
[02:31] <steven-> lol, i meant debian netinst, now i messed it up, well I guess you've got it anyway
[02:31] <michealPW> [  8506.151] (EE) fglrx(0): The graphics processor is already set to console mode, set X mode fail. Cannot start X.
[02:32] <michealPW> Oh hey, that doesn't sound like a very bad error.. Try just restarting the computer, Skeeter_lappy.
[02:32] <bearly230> onitaL: still showing locked with permissions drwxrwx---.  4 ksradmin ksradmin  4096 Oct 28 18:57 ksradmin
[02:32] <rald> ok thanks
[02:32] <michealPW> Maybe the old, broken X is still running, preventing startx from working... Well, I hope anyways haha 'cause I'm out of ideas mate :(
[02:32] <Skeeter_lappy> kk
[02:32] <onitaL> bearly230, how are you mouting?
[02:33] <bearly230> onitaL: via fstab
[02:33] <onitaL> what's the line?
[02:33] <onitaL> can you mount from CLI?
[02:33] <Norwack> Hello. I have uses with my wifi signal strength. I have the Ralink rt2800pci. Any ideas?
[02:33] <chatdenfer> Anyone know if Unity supports zsh/bash/emacs move point command?
[02:33] <steven-> mounting what?
[02:33] <bearly230> onitaL: serv1:/home   /media/serv1    nfs defaults 0 0
[02:33] <steven-> mount /dev/sdx /media/mountpoint
[02:34] <Preflex> generic kernel has pae now, right?
[02:34] <steven-> you will add parameters for the filesystem though, the man pages will help you
[02:34] <bearly230> onitaL: I'm able to get into my own folder on that same server with no problems.
[02:34] <onitaL> aha, do you have the ubuntu's ip in /etc/exports?
[02:35] <Skeeter_lappy> WOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!
[02:35] <bearly230> onitaL: I have 2 clients/users we can both connect via nfs to the server and get access to our own folders, just not this one folder.
[02:35] <Skeeter_lappy> Thanks a million dude!
[02:36] <michealPW> It worked?
[02:36] <michealPW> Yay! :)
[02:36] <Skeeter_lappy> Heck yeah
[02:36] <onitaL> bearly230, is that folder defined in /etc/exports?
[02:36] <Skeeter_lappy> Dude I owe you
[02:36] <michealPW> Congrats, mate! Sorry for the huge process, hehe
[02:36] <Skeeter_lappy> no problem at all
[02:36] <Jisawesome2> ALright, I have a question about webservers
[02:37] <Jisawesome2> HOw can I host multiple websites on my one server?
[02:37] <Skeeter_lappy> I learned not to use janitor again
[02:37] <bearly230> onitaL: the server exports file only has /home *(rw) the ksradmin folder is under home.
[02:37] <michealPW> Well, there's no way Janitor did that. I'm not an expert with Janitor
[02:37] <Skeeter_lappy> neither am I but I won't take the chance
[02:38] <Jisawesome2> Anyone?
[02:38] <Skeeter_lappy> michealpw thanks bro
[02:38] <Skeeter_lappy> I owe you
[02:38] <michealPW> But I dont' think it even has the ability to do that. Something broke your fglrx (FireGL, Radeon and Xpress) driver package and not only that but the open source radeon driver wasn't able to get X started. HEH! You manually built the fglrx packages and manually installed them, then manually generated an xorg.conf file with the new fglrx driver selected :P
[02:38] <onitaL> ah, so in the client you can see /home/ksradmin   but not the files /home/ksradmin/* ? bearly230
[02:39] <_cronus_> Jisawesome2, you define virtual hosts.
[02:39] <bearly230> onitaL: the clients can see all folders in home on the server and get into our own, but not this 1 folder.
[02:39] <Skeeter_lappy> What ever did it beats me
[02:39] <Skeeter_lappy> but thanks again
[02:39] <Jisawesome2> Cronus, how do you do that?
[02:40] <michealPW> No problem hehe, that's what I'm here for :P
[02:40] <Skeeter_lappy> I'll remember that
[02:40] <onitaL> bearly230, Im wondering if the nfs daemon can be restarted
[02:40] <Skeeter_lappy> time for shower and bed
[02:40] <_cronus_> Jisawesome2, which server are you using?
[02:40] <bearly230> onitaL: hold on I'll restart it.
[02:40] <michealPW> Almost time for bed for me, too heehee. Take care, enjoy your fully accelerated X Windows Server hooah! (muscle)
[02:41] <Skeeter_lappy> :) :) :)
[02:41] <bearly230> onitaL: restarted nfs on server, still same issue.
[02:42] <Jisawesome2> Cornus, I am using 8.04
[02:42] <paris> hi folks, how to download youtube videos on Zorin 6?
[02:42] <michealPW> What is Zorin?
[02:42] <onitaL> bearly230, interesting, specially if you say you already fixed the permissions
[02:42] <_cronus_> Jisawesome2, I mean which web server are you using
[02:42] <michealPW> paris: You can get a Firefox extension to capture streaming videos.
[02:43] <michealPW> paris: Is that what you mean?
[02:43] <dougbb> I have a dmraid question ... I have a hardware raid that shows up fine, and works well, but sometimes it's /dev/dm-0, and sometimes it's /dev/dm-1 ... any way to lock it down?
[02:43] <Jisawesome2> Cronus, I dont know what you mean
[02:43] <Jisawesome2> None I believe yet
[02:43] <paris> it is the same like Ubuntu 12.4
[02:43] <bearly230> onitaL: current permissions on folder are drwxrwx---.  4 ksradmin ksradmin  4096 Oct 28 18:57 ksradmin
[02:44] <_cronus_> Jisawesome2, maybe you could ask #apache2 for some help to get you starting.
[02:44] <michealPW> paris: Ah, well, install firefox (If you haven't already) and then in Firefox open the Add-On manager and search for "Flash Video", it will find the Flash Video Downloader add-on. I use that, it works very well and it's free :)
[02:44] <bearly230> onitaL:  Group line is ksradmin:x:505:russk,glenp
[02:44] <Jisawesome2> Will do
[02:45] <Jisawesome2> For the time being, how do I host just one website =P
[02:45] <michealPW> paris: Then you just go to whatever video you want to download and wait for it to begin playing/downloading.. Then FVD icon will turn blue, you can then click it and get an option to save the movie to your computer :P
[02:45] <Ox0000> Hi, I upgraded to kubuntu 12.10 from 12.04 yesterday. I had some problems with my graphics display and finally was able to roll-back to the legacy fglrx driver and everything was working fine untill my touchpad stopped responding to taps. The left-click button is working fine, but nothing happens when I tap the touchpad. Any ideas?
[02:45] <midgar> Hi everyone.
[02:47] <michealPW> Jisawesome2: In a terminal, type apachectl -v
[02:47] <michealPW> Jisawesome2: What version does it report?
[02:47] <michealPW> Or are you already in #apache2 getting help, hehe?
[02:47] <Jisawesome2> Im not yet
[02:47] <Jisawesome2> Right now I just want to try to host one website
[02:48] <asilhouette> hi guys, is there any alternative to wifi miniport feature you find on win7 to create virtual AP
[02:48] <michealPW> Well, you can disable virtual hosts in your apache configuration and just point apache to a single directory :\
[02:48] <Jisawesome2> I havent downloaded anything yet
[02:48] <asilhouette> i tried hostapd but things get pretty messed up
[02:48] <Jisawesome2> *isntalled
[02:48] <michealPW> Oh, you don't have apache installed at all hehe?
[02:49] <Jisawesome2> nope =P
[02:49] <Jisawesome2> im going to install LAMP soon
[02:49] <michealPW> Well basically, by default apache2 will install setup to only serve a single directory, I think /var/www.
[02:49] <michealPW> So really, out of the box it's ready to act the way you want it to :P
[02:49] <lahwran> how do I monitor GPU temperature of an amd gpu using the opensource drivers?
[02:49] <lahwran> I just put together a system and I want to monitor the gpu while I work to make sure it's being cooled properly
[02:50] <Jisawesome2> So, what would the steps be to set up a single webpage from installation
[02:51] <lotuspsychje> !lamp | Jisawesome2
[02:51] <michealPW> Jisawesome2: Actually wait, hehe. First, okay.. In apache there's the notion of "virtual sites"; Basically these exist only in the configuration file and everysingle site could be in the /var/www directory, each contained in their own subdirectory.. Then in your apache config, you'd specify "virtual" sites, pointing them to their respective directory inside /var/www.
[02:51] <Jisawesome2> Would that use different ip's
[02:52] <michealPW> Jisawesome2: In Apache2, there's also the notion of public user sites, where each user gets their own site in their /home/user directory. You can then access each user's homepage by a url like: www.yourdomain.com/~someuser
[02:52] <michealPW> Jisawesome2: What are you trying to do?
[02:53] <Jisawesome2> I want to be able to be able to host multiple websites with different ip's
[02:53] <whiteside> hi ppl.....i have a very good question for u guys...........trying to install my libflashplayer.so file for a update of my firefox flash, so i do that in terminal to locate the old file: locate libflashplayer.so
[02:53] <whiteside> /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so
[02:53] <whiteside> /var/lib/flashplugin-installer/npwrapper.libflashplayer.so
[02:53] <whiteside> root@bt:~# cd /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/
[02:53] <whiteside> root@bt:/usr/lib/flashplugin-installer# ls
[02:53] <FloodBot1> whiteside: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:53] <whiteside> root@bt:/usr/lib/flashplugin-installer# ls
[02:54] <shcherbak> !backtrack
[02:54] <whiteside> yep
[02:54] <whiteside> 64 bit
[02:54] <michealPW> Jisawesome2: Well no, all the "virtual sites" would be exposed through the same IP address. What you'd do is map different domains to the different sites, like www.calculator.com maps to /var/www/calc/, www.spreadsheet.com maps to /var/www/spreadsheet/ etc. etc.. Really each domain points to the same IP address though. Hense the "virtual" server :P
[02:55] <Jisawesome2> ah
[02:55] <whiteside> k
[02:55] <michealPW> Jisawesome2: Well different IPs is a totaly different ballpark, unless you mean IPs like 192.168.1.1, 192.168.1.2. Those are a different "class" of IP address', reserved for your local network basically. Those you have control over, your external IP address that you're connected to IRC with can't be changed by you, though.. That's given to you by your internet provider.
[02:56] <crimsonmane> someone trying to hide their IP address from IRC? set up a proxy. find them at www.spys.ru
[02:56] <Jisawesome2> I dont need different ip's if directing domains to subfolders is secure
[02:56] <Zanzacar> Hi I have a broadcom wireless card and need some help getting it working. I read through and attempted the information on the ubuntu site but that didn't work.
[02:58] <kevin_^> hi all. quick question, i need to do that grub reinstall. how do i do that? somebody pointed me to like a !grub or something, but i dunno what it was...
[02:58] <michealPW> Jisawesome2: Yep, you can achieve really fine-grain security if that's your desired goal :)
[02:58] <kevin_^> !grub | kevin_^
[02:58] <chatdenfer> Can Dash be set up to listen to bash/zsh/emacs move point commands?
[02:58] <kevin_^> oh there it goes
[02:59] <michealPW> Jisawesome2: Basically, for what you want to do Apache2's already setup and ready to go. It will install and create a directory at /var/www, probably a bunch of subdirectories underneath that depending on the apache2 package and then setup the configuration file with 1 virtual site, pointign at /var/www.
[02:59] <Jisawesome2> Will people only be able to access their subfolder rfom FTP, not other's?
[03:00] <michealPW> Well FTP's a different story. FTP's terrible. You'd probably want to go with ssh or something along that line.
[03:00] <michealPW> FTP is nearly insecurable haha.
[03:00] <onitaL> SFTP?
[03:00] <Jisawesome2> !ssh
[03:01] <Jisawesome2> !sftp
[03:01] <michealPW> Iunno, I guess. I still would recommend ssh over sftp. I'm not an expert on sftp.
[03:02] <asilhouette> kevin_^: is the boot working or you just want to reinstall grub
[03:02] <Jisawesome2> Michael, could you explain ssh to me
[03:03] <kevin_^> asilhouette: boot was fine, but got replaced with windows boot loader
[03:04] <kevin_^> ive done this before though but i couldnt remember that link but got it now
[03:04] <michealPW> Jisawesome2: ssh is a way for people to remotely connect and log-in to your computer. Users could remotely log-in to your computer and control their virtual site. SSH was built with security in mind, though. In fact it's called the Secure Shell Protocol :P
[03:05] <michealPW> Jisawesome2: FTP was never designed with security in mind. Perhaps SFTP can provide the security you need, I'm not familiar with it. I _know_ ssh can, though, albiet ssh might be more difficult to setup than sftp I'm not sure again I'm not familiar with sftp.
[03:05] <Jisawesome2> With SSH, can you make it so people can not go out of their respective subfolder
[03:06] <michealPW> Exactly
[03:06] <Jisawesome2> Thank you
[03:06] <michealPW> They can't even _look_ inside other people's virtual sites. Yet they have access to all kinds of tools that are very useful for workign with a remote server.
[03:06] <Jisawesome2> So are there SSH clients?
[03:06] <michealPW> As a developer, haha, I can tell you it's a heck of a lot nicer to have a shell access to a remote server than some clumsy FTP access :P
[03:06] <chatdenfer> SFTP is an extension to SSH.... allows more possibilities for managing remote files than SCP
[03:07] <michealPW> There's a bunch of really great ssh clients, even for Windows. On Windows PuTTy is a great ssh client.
[03:07] <michealPW> Really, chatdenfer, I didn't know that. Do you recommend sftp over ssh for his needs, then?
[03:07] <Jisawesome2> ALright, another question, Can you use a server for multiple purposes, ie a game server and a web server
[03:08] <chatdenfer> SSH-clients on Windows... try Cyberduck [http://cyberduck.ch]
[03:08] <user> can someone helpme figure out how to inst6all ubuntu 12.10
[03:09] <chatdenfer> MichaelPW, rather look at it as another tool in the toolbox
[03:09] <Jisawesome2> Put the disk in and do what it says
[03:10] <chatdenfer> michaelPW anything more secure than regular old-skool FTP is my advice
[03:10] <user> it says it cant find the autorun software.
[03:10] <Jisawesome2> ALright, another question, Can you use a server for multiple purposes, ie a game server and a web server
[03:10] <danon> with proxmox
[03:11] <paris> michealPW! I have Add-On manager in Firefox and  check it Downloader Helper. I am not sure if I have you comprehended  correctly, did I?
[03:11] <wastrel> Jisawesome2: yes
[03:11] <Jisawesome2> How wastrel
[03:12] <Jisawesome2> Actually, I will just find out later
[03:13] <chatdenfer> Remoting in using SSH, you'll have to issue scp, mv, to move files around. Using SFTP you're connected securely and can use regular put, delete etc commands
[03:13] <michealPW> paris: Go here with Firefox https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/flash-video-downloader-youtube/
[03:14] <michealPW> chatdenfer: Ah, maybe I should install it and play around with it :)
[03:15] <chatdenfer> michaelPW: you on Ubuntu or derivative thereof? Should already be installed...
[03:15] <michealPW> sftp? On Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[03:15] <chatdenfer> yes, simply sftp username@host
[03:16] <chatdenfer> Server will prompt for same RSA certificate as usual when SSH-ing to a new host
[03:16] <chatdenfer> Answer Yes and type password of remote host.
[03:16] <danon> who here watches Hak5
[03:17] <chatdenfer> From there it should be smooth sailing...
[03:17] <michealPW> Hrmm!
[03:17] <michealPW> Neato!
[03:18] <michealPW> So you wouldn't be able to use a regular ftp client, then?
[03:18] <StormTwo> anybody can answer how to upgrade from 10.10 to 12.10?
[03:19] <paris> michealPW! I am grateful to you for that inside on that. I will read it and hopefully it will be fine! Big thanks!
[03:19] <danon> StormTwo>  just upgrade?
[03:19] <chatdenfer> michaelPW: haven't tried regular FTP cilent... Lots of them can do SFTP though, Filezilla, built-in Ubuntu SFTP-client etc
[03:20] <michealPW> paris: No problem. Good luck. From that link, you can install the add-on to firefox. Just click big green button "+ Add to Firefox"
[03:20] <michealPW> chatdenfer: Interesting! So is it sshd that's providing the service, then?
[03:20] <StormTwo> anybody can anwer
[03:20] <asilhouette> michealPW: hi is there any way to create a virtual AP from the wireless card i'm using?? i can do it on win7, and hoping there is something like wifi miniport on ubuntu as well
[03:20] <StormTwo> *answer?
[03:20] <StormTwo> it wouldnt
[03:20] <paris> michealPW! Ps. The Downloader Helper also works!
[03:21] <StormTwo> i have downloaded it and it wouldnt load
[03:21] <asilhouette> i want the wireless card to receive wifi and be a AP at the same time??
[03:21] <michealPW> I don't personally know, asilhouette. Perhaps somebody else knows, though. I don't use Wireless :\
[03:21] <asilhouette> ah
[03:21] <asilhouette> thanks
[03:21] <danon> or if you wanted to keep all your linux programs isntall ubuntu on virtualbox synch your programs on the vb with software center then reinstall on your computer
[03:21] <chatdenfer> Yup, opening a port 22 connection over which all ftp traffic is run
[03:21] <michealPW> I think you can do it, hehe, if encouragement helps. I'm just not sure how you'd do it :P
[03:21] <danon> thats if you have another box
[03:21] <asilhouette> if only i knew how to do it, i'd never go back to Windows
[03:22] <michealPW> chatdenfer: Ah, that's neat stuff! :)
[03:22] <michealPW> asilhouette: Hah, that's the spirit! :)
[03:22] <danon> is all the ports in ubuntu really closed?
[03:23] <danon> well isolated i guess because i ran a port scan on audit-pc
[03:23] <chatdenfer> michaelPW: best of both worlds!
[03:23] <StormTwo> anybody pls answer immidiately
[03:24] <michealPW> StormTwo: Can I answer with a question? Does sudo apt-get dist-upgrade not get you anywhere?
[03:25] <OerHeks> 10.10 > 11.04 > 11.10 > 12.04 LTS > 12.10
[03:25] <OerHeks> !upgrade
[03:25] <michealPW> OerHeks: If his sources are set to show LTS, could he dist-upgrade from 10.10 up to 12.04?
[03:25] <michealPW> nvm, let me read those links :P
[03:26] <michealPW> Answered in firth paragraph of first link (giggle) thx OerHeks.
[03:26] <StormTwo> michealPW yes
[03:27] <michealPW> StormTwo: I don't understand the question?
[03:28] <michealPW> StormTwo: This link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes describes the process you would take. dist-upgrade repeatedly up to 12.10, like OerHeks suggested :)
[03:28] <StormTwo> michealPW i have downloaded a 12.10 version, my ubuntu is 10.10, when im going to upgrade to 12.10, it wouldn't work
[03:29] <michealPW> Right. That's too much of a jump and is not supported. You would have to go from: <OerHeks> 10.10 > 11.04 > 11.10 > 12.04 LTS > 12.10
[03:29] <wastrel> you can't upgrade from 10.10 to 12.10 directly
[03:29] <OerHeks> Best way is to reinstall, backup your data first.
[03:29] <wastrel> oh what michealPW said
[03:30] <michealPW> Yea, if possible just backup your data mate and just install with the 12.10 disk, not upgrade :P
[03:30] <onitaL> yeah, I'd reinstall reather than do all those crazy dist-ugprades
[03:32] <chatdenfer> StormTwo: I second onitaL, backup, dl 12.10 and start fresh
[03:33] <onitaL> I would suggest to create a partition for only data (( not /home/xxxx ))
[03:33] <robbie> How can I find what is causing my system to drop ethernet connection every so often? It is not in the logs and it is *very* frequent
[03:33] <onitaL> in that way fresh installs are easier
[03:33] <elisa87> Hi I have no idea why I can't hear any sound!? It is not mute! Does anyone know what I should do?
[03:33] <Ox0000> My touchpad suddenly stopped responding to taps after an upgrade to 12.10 from 12.04. Everything else (scrolling, moving, etc) works fine except for tap and double-tap. Any ideas?
[03:33] <hot2trot> my ubuntu virtual machine now freezes at the start up screen with UBUNTU 12.04 and the 4 dots below it
[03:34] <onitaL> lol
[03:34] <onitaL> wow
[03:34] <hot2trot> it's not erally frozen, because when I quit, it shuts down properly, any ideas?
[03:34] <robbie> elisa87: I might be able to help .. you've a standard configuration or are you doing something special?
[03:34] <elisa87> Ox0000 may I know how did you upgrade to 12.10 from 12.04 and how long did it take?
[03:34] <elisa87> robbie I cannot listen to music in
[03:35] <elisa87> robbie I can hear the music being played in Pandora.com or spotify or music player in Ubuntu
[03:35] <Ox0000> elisa87: I did it through Muon update manager (Kubuntu). It took almost 2 hours.
[03:35] <robbie> open sound in settings, and go to test sound -- can you hear anything there?
[03:35] <robbie> elisa87: open sound in settings, and go to test sound -- can you hear anything there?
[03:35] <elisa87> Ox0000 might this upgrade hurt my installed programs or files?
[03:35] <robbie> elisa87: ooh Im sorry
[03:35] <robbie> elisa87: I thought you said "could not listen to music in..."
[03:36] <robbie> elisa87: where *don't* you hear sound ?
[03:36] <elisa87> robbie I cannot hear anything from sound test
[03:37] <Ox0000> elisa87: I don't really know. I had a problem with my graphics driver, so I ended up rolling back to fglrx legacy driver today. Before that, my touchpad was working fine and also shortly after the roll-back.
[03:37] <robbie> elisa87: ok, what is the name of the output channel? can you select a different option there?
[03:37] <Damien> ver
[03:37] <Damien> server
[03:38] <chatdenfer> michaelPW: which side of the fence on Unity? A fan like me or hate it?
[03:38] <robbie> How can I find what is causing my system to drop ethernet connection every so often? It is not in the logs and it is *very* frequent
[03:39] <michealPW> chatdenfer: I'm still on the fence, haha. I still have Unity installed and my wife really likes it, so in that way it's good :)
[03:39] <michealPW> chatdenfer: Me, Iunno. I resist change. I use KDE 4 haha, I still like the start menu-like klauncher :)
[03:40] <asilhouette> what about xfce4?
[03:40] <michealPW> GNOME 3 is really nice, too. The "kids" account uses GNOME 3, my 3 year old navigates it like a pro haha I was amazed.
[03:40] <steven-> lool
[03:40] <chatdenfer> michaelPW: hahaha! newer been a fan of the classic bottom right start-menu.
[03:41] <steven-> what about your wife?
[03:41] <steven-> no, grandparents!
[03:41] <asilhouette> like the one where a 3 yr old uses Win8
[03:41] <bazhang> !ot
[03:41] <robbie_> what would affect the network every few minutes? some client besides dhcp?
[03:42] <michealPW> I have xfce4 and lxde installed. xfce4 is really nice, iunno. It's just not as complete as KDE like when I click on the xfce menu, I can't even tell what utilities are for/from xfce and what isn't haha.
[03:42] <chatdenfer> Yeah, G3 and XFCE4 both good but really warming up to Unity
[03:42] <steven-> just out of curiosity, since i've never done it, is there an easy way to set up a socks5 proxy server?
[03:42] <michealPW> I also have a terrible time with xfce4 and lxde themes, because they're based on gtk2 and my KDE keeps rethemeing everythign to be consistent with qt haha, it's crazyness.
[03:42] <bazhang> michealPW, lets take the chit chat elsewhere
[03:43] <elisa87> robbie both front and left speakers don't work also when I use my headset I hear no voice
[03:43] <michealPW> So when I log-in to KDE, KDE breaks xfce4's look/feel. Then I gotta re-apply the gtk theme in xfce.
[03:43] <michealPW> bazhang: Sorry, mate.
[03:44] <michealPW> ... Can I just add one last thing? I hate the way Unity and G3 handle .desktop files. You're basically forced to work with them from a terminal using vim :(
[03:44] <michealPW> hehe, k I'll stop now I promise :)
[03:45] <aiFrantz> elisa87 sorry because I'm little bit outdated. could you please tell me which Ubuntu that you're running
[03:46] <hot2trot> how do I boot straight into a commandline.... for some reason the computer is booting up but stops at ubuntu 12.04 with the 4 dots below.  Then, when I press power it shutdowns correctly, so it's not completely frozen, it just gets stuck
[03:47] <michealPW> hot2trot: At anytime, you can hold ctrl+alt and press F1 - F4 to switch to another text-based virtual terminal
[03:48] <hot2trot> michealPW: there it is, thank you
[03:48] <michealPW> To get back to your failed graphical terminal it's I think F7+, so your first graphical log-in would be in F7
[03:50] <mushroom> anyone could advise on how to patch the "Gwibber"..Thanks
[03:50] <mushroom> i have downloaded  a diff file.. but not sure of the source file of "Gwibber"
[03:52] <elisa87> I did this and it worked : 1)Open terminal and typed alsamixer.
[03:52] <elisa87>  
[03:52] <elisa87>   2) Press a few tabs or F5 so you can see all the options.
[03:52] <elisa87>  
[03:52] <elisa87>   3)Now with your arrow keys go to loopback and enable it
[03:52] <FloodBot1> elisa87: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:52] <wastrel> :[
[03:52] <c_smith> Hi, I'm trying to install fglrx on Ubuntu 12.10, and everytime I get it installed and use sudo aticonfig --initial, upon reboot it throws me to an unusable low-graphics mode (I say unusable when I can only press enter on the first menu and nothing else works), is there something I can do to resolve this? my AMD GPU falls within the requirements of the current non-legacy drivers, it's an AMD Radeon HD 6470M
[03:52] <c_smith> holy great wall of text, batman!
[03:52] <robbie_> congrats elisa87 --sorry I couldnt help
[03:53] <michealPW> mushroom: You'd probably use the patch program
[03:53] <robbie_> why does my eth0 interface keep disconnecting?
[03:53] <_cronus_> mushroom, apt-get source gwibber . make sure you enable source repository.
[03:53] <michealPW> mushroom: Something like path < /path/to/yourdiff.diff
[03:53] <michealPW> mushroom: Check man patch for the manual.
[03:53] <c_smith> mushroom, to patch gwibber you need to get the source code (apt-source would work for that) and then patch the source code.
[03:54] <michealPW> mushroom: Sorry, patch < /path/to/yourdiff.diff
[03:55] <michealPW> c_smith: How are you installing fglrx?
[03:55] <d4rkh4nd> hello, i need to burn a iso of ubuntu but my burning programs are not working can this be done in terminal? if so how?
[03:55] <michealPW> From where, I should say
[03:55] <d4rkh4nd> This is my LAST dvd and i need this for my kids PC
[03:55] <danon> i know this is gonna sound bad because well it linux it is already suppose to be fast but are there any setting changes and tweaks yall know of to speed up ubuntu
[03:56] <mushroom> Thanks cronus.
[03:56] <mushroom> Thanks michealPW.
[03:56] <robbie_> why does my eth0 interface keep disconnecting?
[03:56] <mushroom> i shall try it out in a while.. munching now..haha..
[03:57] <michealPW> mushroom: np. So then move your .diff to the gwibber source's directory, then change directories to the gwibber source and run patch < gwibber.diff (where gwibber.diff is your .diff file.)
[03:58] <c_smith> michealPW, I've tried both via command line and via the software sources.
[03:58] <c_smith> both result in the same outcome.
[03:58] <XiaolinDraconis> is it possible to get qemu to read my hard drive, so i can boot an iso and install directly to my drive
[03:58] <michealPW> mushroom: Also, you'll have to make sure your gwibber's version is the same version the .diff is for else it can't work of course :P
[03:58] <c_smith> doesn't even get to the point I log in, just LightDM seems to be throwing me to this.
[03:59] <michealPW> c_smith: Ah, well, lets see the logs first. If you haven't already, install pastebinit (sudo apt-get install pastebinit) so that you can run this command: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit
[03:59] <d4rkh4nd> hello, i need to burn a iso of ubuntu but my burning programs are not working can this be done in terminal? if so how?
[03:59] <d4rkh4nd> This is my LAST dvd and i need this for my kids PC
[03:59] <lahwran> how do I set up LVM when installing ubuntu 12.04 desktop?
[03:59] <lahwran> (and why isn't it default?)
[03:59] <XiaolinDraconis> d4rkh4nd, dd is a command line option, its powerful and can do the job, but its dangerous
[03:59] <michealPW> Yes, your X Windows Server is failing to initialize your display for some reason. Also, do you know which ATI card you've got?
[04:00] <_cronus_> d4rkh4nd, sudo cdrecord /path/to/iso
[04:00] <c_smith> completely forgot about xorg.0.log when trying to figure this out myself..... has me wanting to look at it myself.
[04:00] <XiaolinDraconis> even better
[04:00] <d4rkh4nd> is sudo cdrecord gonna make the iso bootable ?
[04:00] <_cronus_> d4rkh4nd, not if it isn't already
[04:01] <XiaolinDraconis> d4rkh4nd, most likely the iso image you are using is bootable
[04:01] <michealPW> lahwran: What do you mean? The LVM (Logical Volume Manager?) is part of the linux kernel, it's not an optional component.
[04:01] <michealPW> lahwran: What's the problem you're having?
[04:01] <_cronus_> d4rkh4nd, but ubuntu iso image is
[04:01] <d4rkh4nd> its from the ubuntu website idk
[04:01] <XiaolinDraconis> it is
[04:01] <c_smith> michealPW, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1314320/
[04:01] <michealPW> Hrmm lets see what we've got
[04:02] <XiaolinDraconis> d4rkh4nd, a usb thumb drive is another option
[04:02] <lahwran> michealPW: what do *you* mean? LVM is a way to set up logical volumes that can be shimmied around at runtime
[04:02] <lahwran> michealPW: and I can't find anything in the ubuntu installer to set it up
[04:02] <lahwran> nor in gparted for that matter
[04:02] <c_smith> michealPW, looking at it after searching for fglrx, seems to X.org seems to be failing to load the module fglrx
[04:02] <d4rkh4nd> well this other pc wont boot from it the only USB i have isnt working on it idk what its deal is
[04:02] <michealPW> Hrmm, indeed so it cannot find the fglrx kernel module. Fiddle sticks!@
[04:03] <michealPW> Perhaps you may have to download the package directly from AMD/ATI and build the package yourself and then install it with dpkg.
[04:03] <d4rkh4nd> its woerd i sees the usb and when i try to boot its just says Boot error
[04:03] <d4rkh4nd> it*
[04:03] <XiaolinDraconis> d4rkh4nd, sometimes mine doesnt boot until i shut it down completely and cold boot
[04:03] <c_smith> michealPW, I've tried the beta, gonna try the stable version now,
[04:04] <michealPW> Ah the beta yea I wouldn't play with that hehe :P
[04:04] <c_smith> as I found out the hard way,
[04:04] <d4rkh4nd> I tryed that to. It is trying to read it. Is it supposed to ne NFTS or FAT ?
[04:04] <robbie_> why does my eth0 interface keep disconnecting?
[04:04] <c_smith> suffice it to say it's easy to remove should anything go wrong once you know how
[04:05] <XiaolinDraconis> d4rkh4nd, i usually use ext4, but i believe the image puts it in its own format
[04:05] <d4rkh4nd> it let me choose, and i thought NFTS was best
[04:05] <XiaolinDraconis> d4rkh4nd, ntfs wont work for linux
[04:05] <d4rkh4nd> thats why then LOL well ill try to change to FAT
[04:06] <XiaolinDraconis> d4rkh4nd, what did you use to put the iso onto usb?
[04:06] <michealPW> Just download the stable package from ati.amd.com, unzip it, install the dependencies like build-essential dh-make debconf dh-modaliases fakeroot execstack and dkms
[04:06] <c_smith> michealPW, will do, I might have most of the deps.
[04:07] <XiaolinDraconis> d4rkh4nd, ive been using unetbootin on linux, and yumi on windows
[04:07] <Funhouse> Hi there, can someone tell me why there is a couple of files in my directory that I have never create before? Like this issue says --> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11357403/weird-file-not-found-error
[04:07] <michealPW> Then run it in a terminal like sh ./amd-driver-installer-whatever.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/precise; then install those with dpkg -i fglrx*.deb
[04:07] <michealPW> Should be able to then run amdconfig --initial -f
[04:07] <michealPW> btw I think they renamed it to amdconfig from aticonfig ^_-
[04:08] <norwack> Hello. i have issues with my wifi signal. on windows i get full bars, now i only get 1 and 2 when i use ubuntu
[04:08] <c_smith> michealPW, I'll try amdconfig this time,
[04:09] <michealPW> Hopefully that works. Then restart the machine and hopefully you'll get to a working lightdm this time hehe
[04:09] <c_smith> yeah
[04:10] <Funhouse> anyone?
[04:10] <c_smith> though I should add I'm on Quantal, not Precise, Precise doesn't handle my optical drive well.
[04:10] <michealPW> Could be as simple as dependency, happens to me all the time hehe. Some nice fella should make an "fglrx-depends" package that depends on all the tools you need to build even the fglrx kernel module. That'd be nice :)
[04:10] <norwack> Anyone?
[04:11] <c_smith> could be.
[04:11] <michealPW> Oh you're on Quantal, ehh? I think it's basically the same, except Ubuntu/quantal ( if AMD supports it? :P )
[04:11] <michealPW> So sh ./amd-TAB --buildpkg Ubuntu/quantal
[04:11] <c_smith> yeah, I kinda figured it'd be Ubuntu/quantal, just thought I'd mention that in case it meant something.
[04:11] <michealPW> Maybe sudo sh ./amd, getting late I can't think haha :(
[04:12] <michealPW> Hope not (rofl)
[04:12] <c_smith> get some sleep, then. :)
[04:13] <c_smith> well, gonna reboot to see if this worked.
[04:13] <chatdenfer> norwack: what does sudo iwconfig say in terms of signal level?
[04:13] <michealPW> installed the febs?
[04:13] <michealPW> err, .debs?
[04:16] <chatdenfer> norwack: ?
[04:17] <Gnome3man> chatdenfer: norwack is gone and its more then likely a driver issue.. Had this problem till them updated my aerthos card on laptop different model then intended driver.
[04:19] <chatdenfer> Gnome3man: thx! I would have suggested drivers. Guess we've all been there, huh
[04:20] <dougbb> i found a way to fix plymouth with the nvidia drivers :)
[04:20] <dougbb> now that I know what the thing is called, it was easy to search for the solution
[04:20] <XiaolinDraconis> how can i start qemu booting an iso and reading a real hard drive, i want to install an iso this way
[04:20] <dougbb> http://askubuntu.com/questions/131120/no-splash-screen-after-nvidia-propietary-drivers
[04:20] <michealPW> Hrmm
[04:20] <dougbb> the script needs some fixes, but it works
[04:20] <Gnome3man> chatdenfer: documentation is getting better in explaining different wifi modules and additions..
[04:21] <dougbb> so now, any dmraid pros available? :)
[04:22] <Ghil> hey guys! I'm completely lost. I've installed Elementary on ubuntu 12.10, went back to gnome, updated and stayed in gnome for a few days..I came back to Pantheon to try it again, and there is nothing except the wallpaper and icons. I created a file to open in Chrome to get here, but since I don't have access to a terminal, I can't log out and choose something else at all. What can I do?
[04:22] <wastrel> what's elementary and what's pantheon
[04:22] <c_smith> well, that didn't work...... fglrx from the AMD site didn't help at all
[04:22] <mushroom> Hi michealPW..
[04:22] <michealPW> Hi :)
[04:22] <mushroom> i did the patching..
[04:22] <mushroom>  patch < 8fd91e42-1934-11e2-916b-002481e91f22.txt
[04:22] <mushroom> can't find file to patch at input line 4
[04:22] <mushroom> Perhaps you should have used the -p or --strip option?
[04:22] <mushroom> The text leading up to this was:
[04:22] <mushroom> --------------------------
[04:22] <FloodBot1> mushroom: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:23] <Ghil> wastrel: Elementary is a new WM much like gnome, and Pantheon is it's shell.
[04:23] <mushroom> it was asking for the File to Patch..  how to find out the file name?
[04:24] <michealPW> c_smith: Well, you installed the .debs after you created them with the ati script and didn't get any errors in the terminal?/
[04:24] <c_smith> michealPW, correct.
[04:24] <michealPW> c_smith: Then ran amdconfig --initial -f and restarted, still no go?
[04:24] <c_smith> did I need the -f? if so, I didn't add that.
[04:25] <michealPW> c_smith: Well, lets checkout the new log maybe it has some hints. Do cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit
[04:25] <c_smith> I just ran sudo amdconfig --initial
[04:25] <michealPW> Well Iunno what the -f even does, I just remember that from manual somewhere haha
[04:25] <michealPW> Have always used it (blush)
[04:25] <c_smith> cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit
[04:25] <michealPW> Maybe let me look it up
[04:25] <c_smith> oooops
[04:25] <mushroom> ..
[04:26] <c_smith> that was the command I had just run....
[04:26] <c_smith> michealPW, here you go: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1314345/
[04:26] <Ghil> wait, I found a way to open a terminal, I'll be alright from there. :D
[04:26] <Swiss_Onyx> Hello can someone help me?
[04:27] <c_smith> this time no mention of fglrx in the log.
[04:27] <michealPW> Oh, -f is the force option. The manual says something about force 'causes it to write out the xorg.conf even if there already exists a broken xorg.conf, I think, is how I interpret it hehe.
[04:27] <Swiss_Onyx> Hello?
[04:27] <cfhowlett> !details|Swiss_Onyx:
[04:28] <ahzi> i have a  eeepc 901 running 10.10. when i try to upgrade to 11.04 ...12.04, i get the error message 'not enough memory'. the 901 has a 4gb ssd and a 8gb ssd stock, (also have additional 16 gb sd card)
[04:28] <michealPW> Maybe uhh, do sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup
[04:28] <michealPW> Then do sudo amdconfig --initial
[04:28] <c_smith> kk
[04:28] <michealPW> Start with a fresh new xorg.conf from amd hehe. Then restart the machine and see what it has to say for itself hehe
[04:28] <c_smith> will do
[04:28] <dougbb> ahzi: you'd likely be better off backing up your data and reinstalling fresh
[04:28] <konza> !ask | Swiss_Onyx
[04:29] <ahzi> is there a step by step how to link?
[04:30] <c_smith> hmmmmm.... in the amdconfig --initial command, I just got a warning from update alternatives: "warning: not replacing /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/xorg/extra-modules with a link"
[04:30] <Swiss_Onyx> I am having trouble with my 12.10, I upgraded from 12.04 today and it freezes when I get to the purple  screen that says "umbutu" and has 4 dots below it. I had this problem before  in 12.04 but it only happened about once every 20 times I booted but now it happens 9 out of 10 times
[04:30] <c_smith> might that mean something?
[04:31] <michealPW> Hrmm, iunno what that means honestly HEH!
[04:31] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset|Swiss_Onyx:
[04:31] <c_smith> ah, well, continuing
[04:31] <michealPW> Maybe the link already exists?
[04:31] <c_smith> it might.
[04:31] <michealPW> *shrugs* hopefully it's not important (rofl)
[04:31] <c_smith> hopefully, if it is, and fglrx keeps failing, I can always fall back on the intel chip
[04:32] <c_smith> anywho, trying this again
[04:32] <michealPW> Jah, but radeon is much preferred heehee! :)
[04:32] <danon> it dosent really affect anything if im running x86 on a AMD Athlon(tm) Dual Core Processor 4450e × 2  right?
[04:32] <michealPW> What do you mean, danon?
[04:32] <michealPW> As opposed to running x86_64, you mean?
[04:33] <danon> yeah because im running ubunto 12.10 32 bit
[04:33] <michealPW> And your Athlon's a 64-bit processor?
[04:33] <danon> yeah
[04:33] <michealPW> It's not bad nope :)
[04:34] <Swiss_Onyx> can you enplane it again in simpler words? Im a writer not a computer scientist
[04:34] <danon> ok just making sure because im in the process of configuring  ubuntu
[04:34] <michealPW> Swiss_Onyx: It's just explaining that, the splash screen during boot is a fancy technology called kernel modesetting. Some graphics cards can't do this and so it must be turned off :P
[04:35] <dougbb> Swiss_Onyx: did you read that web page?
[04:35] <michealPW> Swiss_Onyx: You can turn it off with the nomodeset parameter. Read the web-page, it probably explains it better too :)
[04:35] <Swiss_Onyx> thank you
[04:38] <lanken> is there any reason that my system monitor app would be showing four cores?
[04:38] <lanken> I have a dual-core laptop
[04:38] <Swiss_Onyx> I am trying to follow the instructions but I cant figure them out\
[04:38] <michealPW> Hyper-Threading, lanken?
[04:39] <lanken> michealPW: core i5 ivy bridge...yes, that makes sense.
[04:40] <fernando_> hey guys i need some tips how to use irc
[04:40] <dougbb> fernando_: you're already here, how much more do you need? :)
[04:40] <michealPW> lanken: Jah, Intel's Hyper-Threading technology creates a second "virtual" core in each of the 2 physical cores.
[04:40]  * cfhowlett LOL
[04:41] <michealPW> lanken: Basically. I'm sure it's more technically involved than that (rofl) :P
[04:41] <danon> well first step would be getting a irc client
[04:41] <lanken> michealPW: right, it's like cars that merge perfectly on the highway...I remember watching the video :)
[04:41] <fernando_> yes i do basicly find some channels and stuff like that
[04:41] <Swiss_Onyx> michealPW, where am I supposed to  enter the code on the url you sent me?
[04:41] <michealPW> Yup, first step to IRC is getting a good client... On linux, amagad there's so many to choose from :)
[04:41] <c_smith> aaaaand it didn't work again, and thus I give up.
[04:42] <lanken> I am really digging the window manager and panel that comes with Quantal
[04:42] <c_smith> I know my card is in the HD 6xxx range
[04:42] <danon> i wish they would port M-irc to linux
[04:42] <michealPW> c_smith: Fiddle sticks! :(
[04:43] <Swiss_Onyx> michealPW, I am still confused, I can not understand what I am supposed to do
[04:43] <c_smith> yeah, and I have no more time to mess with it tonight, not that I'm exactly getting bad results with my Intel GPU and the 3.5 kernel
[04:43] <dougbb> Swiss_Onyx: did you read the web page?
[04:43] <michealPW> Yes I must retire very shortly myself, very sorry I couldn't be of more help :(
[04:43] <michealPW> I blame society, c_smith ;)
[04:43] <c_smith> michealPW, might the fact that the two GPUs being a muxless pair be a possible cause?
[04:43] <Swiss_Onyx> i dont understand the webpage
[04:44] <michealPW> c_smith: I think it might be really complicating things, certainly. I'm not familiar with that kind of setup, mate :\
[04:44] <dougbb> Swiss_Onyx: at what point are you getting lost?
[04:44] <michealPW> c_smith: I vaguely remember somebody else having the odd behavior that the intel chip wanted to be the primary display controler, but dunno much about it I'm afraid.
[04:44] <c_smith> michealPW, afaik, X.org doesn't support Muxless pairs.
[04:44] <fernando_> how i talk to someone in private here - or not in private but only with that person
[04:45] <Swiss_Onyx> when it shows me code, where do I imput this? The terminal?
[04:45] <dougbb> Swiss_Onyx: what's the URL again?
[04:46] <c_smith> fernando_, /msg <insert-username-here>
[04:46] <Swiss_Onyx> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132
[04:46] <michealPW> Jah, kind of a leap but have you tried switching which gpu you connect your monitor to?
[04:46] <michealPW> Iunno, maybe that wont help hehe.
[04:46] <lahwran> what dangers are there to encrypting my home folder?
[04:46] <fernando_> thanx c_smith
[04:46] <cfhowlett> lahwran: only the /home?
[04:46] <c_smith> michealPW, can't it's a laptop that I didn't build
[04:46] <lahwran> what kind of data might leak out due to the rest of the FS being unencrypted?
[04:46] <cfhowlett> lahwran: lose the password and lose your mind ..
[04:46] <lahwran> cfhowlett: it's an option in the desktop installer
[04:46] <c_smith> Lenovo IdeaPad U400,
[04:46] <michealPW> c_smith: Ah I see, interesting
[04:47] <lahwran> cfhowlett: that's not really a risk with this password :p
[04:47] <michealPW> I thought it was a desktop with discrete amd graphics hehe
[04:47] <cfhowlett> lahwran: so long is you encrypt ONLY the /home you should be OK
[04:47] <c_smith> yeah, like I said, not exactly disappointed with the milage I'm getting with the Intel chip.
[04:47] <lahwran> how so? I mean, as opposed to what?
[04:47] <c_smith> anywho, I'm out, gotta get my rest.
[04:47] <michealPW> Yea, still it would be best to have both GPUs firing right? :)
[04:47] <c_smith> true
[04:47] <michealPW> Me too, take care :)
[04:47] <dougbb> Swiss_Onyx: go down the page to where it says: How to temporarily set kernel boot options on an installed OS (not wubi)
[04:47] <c_smith> thanks for trying, michealPW
[04:49] <lahwran> cfhowlett: only encrypt home as opposed to what? wouldn't whole-fs encryption be safer?
[04:49] <Swiss_Onyx> ok, so when I get to this part what do I enter?
[04:49] <cfhowlett> lahwran: and it begins ...
[04:50] <lahwran> cfhowlett: what does?
[04:50] <cfhowlett> lahwran: theoretically, yes you are right
[04:50] <dougbb> Swiss_Onyx: you want to try the different acpi options listed in the text above
[04:50] <lahwran> cfhowlett: but?
[04:50] <lahwran> cfhowlett: please don't take me for an idiot, I'm only stupid on weekdays
[04:50] <cfhowlett> lahwran: but full FS encryption has some unexpected consequences around upgrades, networking and such.  Frequently mentioned here in fact.
[04:51] <Swiss_Onyx> Which ones?
[04:51] <wujie> Excuse me ,I amwujie
[04:51] <wujie> Hi
[04:51] <lahwran> cfhowlett: unexpected in what way? explosive/failing? leaking data? leaking encryption keys?
[04:51] <dougbb> lahwran: there's no point in encrypting the system partitions, what is your threat model that you want to protect them from?
[04:52] <Swiss_Onyx> dougbb:The text on the URL?
[04:52] <wujie> ok ,This is Bug?
[04:52] <dougbb> Swiss_Onyx: you're going to have to try the various options listed on that page, unfortunately there is no one answer to your problem, it's highly dependent on your individual hardware
[04:52] <cfhowlett> thanks for enlightening him.  I don't have the techno vocabulary>dougbb
[04:52] <Gnome3man> lahwran: No, Encryption of the hardrive is great usually the best have control card that only excepts that hard drive be installed and ran on that system... That was the whole deal in Colorado Encrptyed laptop...
[04:52] <lahwran> Gnome3man: I'm sorry, but I don't follow, could you rephrase?
[04:52] <dougbb> cfhowlett: np
[04:53] <wujie> Hi ,What can you say someting
[04:54] <lahwran> dougbb: uhh, just generic stuff
[04:54] <wujie> sulod can we see
[04:54] <lahwran> dougbb: "someone who shouldn't have physical access does"
[04:54] <michealPW> Swiss_Onyx: Try scrolling down to the section "How to permanently set kernel boot options on an installed OS (not wubi)" and following those directions.
[04:54] <wujie> hi ,I am chinese
[04:55] <dougbb> lahwran: right, so, what damage can they do if all they have access to is the system?
[04:55] <Swiss_Onyx> do you meen the acpi=off, noapic and dolapic and vmalloc=xxxM
[04:55] <lahwran> dougbb: they can see /var
[04:55] <dougbb> lahwran: right, so what?
[04:55] <lahwran> dougbb: and what packages I've installed
[04:55] <dougbb> lahwran: right, so what?
[04:55] <Swiss_Onyx> thank you, this is much easser
[04:55] <dougbb> lahwran: my point is, what is it that you are trying to protect?
[04:56] <Gnome3man> lahwran: Look you have Controls all over the PC motherboard that send and recieve/ data.. What makes the Hard drive in Colorado Case Unique the have a Hard drive controller that lets the system know it will not run on other physical systems or they would have just cracked the system. The software encrypted Idea is great ,but you can use osphcrak and other brut force software with livecd to crack system..
[04:56] <dougbb> lahwran: or put another way, what bad thing happens if they get access to the bare system?
[04:56] <michealPW> Swiss_Onyx: Try this. Hold alt and press F2. Then type gksu gedit /etc/default/grub
[04:56] <michealPW> Swiss_Onyx: It will prompt you for your password and then open up the grub configuration file.
[04:56] <lahwran> dougbb: :|
[04:56] <lahwran> dougbb: guess I'll go with home encryption
[04:56] <lahwran> thanks
[04:57] <lahwran> Gnome3man: you aren't making much sense
[04:57] <dougbb> lahwran: np :)
[04:57] <Gnome3man> lahwran: software vs hardware encryption in short
[04:57] <fgh> broadcom 4313 supported by linux ?\
[04:58] <Gnome3man> lahwran: If you want to know more check out HAK5 and pentration testing Backtrack 4, 5
[04:58] <michealPW> Swiss_Onyx: Now go down to line 11 where it says GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash". You're going to add nomodeset, to make it look like this: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash nomodeset". Then save the file and close it. Then hold alt and press F2, type gnome-terminal and press enter. In the terminal type sudo update-grub
[04:59] <Swiss_Onyx> thank you, for the help, sorry If i was so confused
[04:59] <michealPW> Then restart the computer and see if you experience the same problem during the startup you were experiencing before.
[04:59] <Gnome3man> lahwran: I guess for the average user encryption by software is more then suitable for your needs.
[05:00] <dougbb> Gnome3man: for all others, there is ironkey :)
[05:00] <michealPW> LOL
[05:00] <dougbb> is there any particular reason that firefox would keep losing its window decorations with compiz?
[05:00] <dougbb> compiz has been working fine till today
[05:01] <Gnome3man> dougbb: Unless you got info to hide from FBI, CIA and NSA... Local thief is not this great at stealing info beyond passwords...
[05:01] <lahwran> Gnome3man: I'm not an average user of ubuntu :p
[05:01] <lahwran> maybe more like an average user of archlinux
[05:01] <dougbb> Gnome3man: if you're trying to hide data from them, they have far easier ways of getting your password
[05:02] <lahwran> dougbb: O_o creepy
[05:02] <michealPW> You can't hide data from those agencies, that's just silly.
[05:02] <lahwran> oh cut the fud
[05:02] <michealPW> They'd just pick you up at night and drive you off somewhere and torture you until you give them your password LOL
[05:02] <michealPW> Then viola, beat your encryption. (giggles)
[05:02] <lahwran> ugh, the installer apparently crashed
[05:03] <Gnome3man> lahwran: That is what I use! When not playing with ubuntu... I suggest watch videos from hak5 these geeks travel to Electronics show every year and pickup on tips by FBI and other hackers there well versed in haking
[05:03] <dougbb> https://xkcd.com/538/
[05:04] <michealPW> (rofl) dougbb, nice.
[05:04] <michealPW> So true, though.
[05:04] <lahwran> gah, that's not funny
[05:05] <michealPW> Well, off to bed chaps. G'night! :)
[05:05] <lahwran> ugh, I hate hate hate hate hate hate hate ubuntu's POS bug reporting, it gets in the way and doesn't actually show _me_ the error
[05:05] <lahwran> what kind of lunatic thinks they own my errors
[05:05] <info> how to check lock held by nfs??
[05:05] <info> anyone??
[05:05] <Gnome3man> lahwran: there are tons of tools for pentration testing.. Mainly require gather packets and decyfer code. Weahter that be hard drive, Dvd Burner, Wifi or boot process.
[05:05] <dougbb> lahwran: you can click the 'more information' button and it should help
[05:05] <lahwran> I did
[05:05] <dougbb> info: lsof
[05:05] <lahwran> it didn't
[05:05] <lahwran> there was nothing there
[05:06] <dougbb> lahwran: how long did you wait?
[05:06] <lahwran> well, not nothing, but no stdout of apt-get
[05:06] <lahwran> dougbb: it blew up trying to install initramfs
[05:06] <dougbb> mysystem is fairly fast, and it takes time to collect the data
[05:06] <info> dougbb: and how can i stop nfs from holding locks?
[05:06] <dougbb> info: kill the process holding the lock
[05:06] <lahwran> now I have to start the installation over! gah!
[05:07] <lahwran> why don't they have continuable error handling on this
[05:07] <lahwran> it shouldn't be _that_ hard to allow me to manually resume it
[05:07] <squid_> hi #ubuntu
[05:07] <info> dougbb: any specific command to kill process occupied by nfs??
[05:07] <squid_> I'm running 12.04 powerpc on a powerbook g4
[05:07] <squid_> I can't get audio working
[05:07] <dougbb> info: find the process, then use 'kill <pid number of process>
[05:07] <squid_> I tried following the directions on the wiki powerpc faq
[05:08] <squid_> and I tried some forum posts
[05:08] <squid_> where I need to modify the modules loaded
[05:08] <Gnome3man> lahwran: Thats allright lost my ArchLinux box do to simlinks changes in gcc 4.7... Wasn't doing regular updates.
[05:08] <squid_> but I can't get it to work
[05:08] <Gnome3man> lahwran: crashed the system.. :(
[05:09] <Erin> is all I have to do to upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo shutdown -r now ?
[05:09] <info> dougbb: actually i'm writing a script for checking locks held by nfs, any specific command
[05:09] <Gnome3man> Erin: support for 12.10 is short compared to LTS 12.04
[05:09] <dougbb> info: there is no magic bullet here ... use lsof to find the process, and ps to find the pid
[05:09] <Jordan_U> Erin: No, not even close to whay you do to upgrade.
[05:10] <Erin> what do I do then, command line preferred
[05:10] <Jordan_U> !upgrade | Erin
[05:10] <bazhang> !dist-upgrade | Erin
[05:11] <Gnome3man> Well back to studying! :P
[05:11] <b1lly> so
[05:11] <b1lly> im trying to setup a lamp server
[05:11] <b1lly> but python based
[05:11] <b1lly> is there something more i need to do
[05:11] <b1lly> other than install python, apache2 and mysql
[05:12] <Erin> x@Media:~$ do-release-upgrade
[05:12] <Erin> Checking for a new Ubuntu release
[05:12] <Erin> No new release found
[05:12] <Erin> ?
[05:12] <FloodBot1> Erin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:12] <bazhang> !lamp > b1lly
[05:12] <Erin> also that link doesn't have upgrade instructions for 12.04 > 12.10
[05:13] <bazhang> Erin, be sure that check for lts only is not marked
[05:13] <lahwran> okay
[05:13] <lahwran> how do I set up LVM on a desktop install of ubuntu?
[05:13] <Erin> bazhang, what check? im using command line through SSH
[05:14] <lahwran> I was following this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1782296 - however, after getting through the "who are you?" stage of the installer, it blew up with an error message related to initramfstools. unfortunately it wouldn't let me copy and paste the error information so I can't post it in here, and I know better than to post an error to some random debugging team that won't get back to me for a year
[05:14] <lahwran> okay maybe that last part lets one of my pet peeves show, but you get the picture
[05:15] <Captain_Claw> Is there any problem if I install Gnome 3 in my default Ubuntu Precise?
[05:15] <Captain_Claw> Dependencies etc ..
[05:15] <danon> not if you use gnome-session-rollback
[05:16] <Captain_Claw> what is that?
[05:16] <tensorpudding> default ubuntu 12.04 has gnome 3 already installed
[05:16] <Erin> So no one can tell me how to upgrade from 12.04 > 12.10 from command line?
[05:16] <Coburn> Erin
[05:16] <Coburn> Firstly
[05:16] <Coburn> add the 12.10 sources into apt-get
[05:16] <Coburn> comment out the 12.04 ones
[05:16] <Captain_Claw> then why isn't it being shown under DE's available when I login?
[05:17] <Coburn> then apt-get update
[05:17] <Erin> Coburn, got a link so I can copy/paste ?
[05:17] <Captain_Claw> i saw some instructions that i have to add a ppa to get gnome 3 de
[05:17] <Captain_Claw> add a ppa & install some stuff
[05:17] <Coburn> Erin, I can give you a set of commands
[05:17] <rumpe1> Captain_Claw, which DEs are available when you login?
[05:17] <Erin> Coburn, awesome
[05:17] <Captain_Claw> unity, unity 2d, gnome classic, gnome classic (without effects) -- if i rem correctly
[05:18] <Captain_Claw> rumpe1: ^
[05:18] <Coburn> Erin: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:18] <Coburn> Erin: before you copy paste
[05:18] <Coburn> make sure you know what the 12.10 release name is
[05:18] <rumpe1> Captain_Claw, then it's probably gnome classic. Unity itself uses gnome3.
[05:18] <Coburn> I think it's Percise or something
[05:19] <Erin> nah current is precise
[05:19] <Coburn> what's the next one?
[05:19] <bazhang> edit /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades and set Prompt=normal
[05:19] <Erin> and I alrdy updated and used dist-upgrade, and I know how to use nano :-)
[05:19] <bazhang> Erin, ^
[05:19] <Erin> k
[05:19] <Coburn> Question for other folks.
[05:19] <Captain_Claw> rumpe1:  i saw some instructions to add a ppa, install some stuff to get gnome 3 de (which is diff from unity). q/n is whether there's any problem that might happen if i do this?
[05:19] <Coburn> Can I debootstrap Ubuntu so I get a nice little "baby" Ubuntu without the eyecandy (ie. base system?)
[05:20] <Erin> bazhang, that worked thanks
[05:20] <Coburn> I know I can do it on Debian, but not sure with Ubuntu
[05:20] <rumpe1> Captain_Claw, first check your version. In terminal type : "cat /etc/issue"
[05:20] <Erin> Coburn, just installl the server version then add the stuff you want
[05:20] <cfhowlett> !minimal|Coburn:
[05:20] <Gnome3man> Captain_Claw: Installed Gnome 3 issues when diplaying panel on my 32" LED Vizio TV... Have to google to find solution.. Bit annoying. I use cairo for that reason to have a panel...
[05:20] <Coburn> Uhhhh....
[05:20] <Coburn> Not what I wanted
[05:20] <Coburn> I mean, I have a system already
[05:20] <b1lly> is there a way to test python serverside? on my local web server
[05:21] <Coburn> b1lly: what server?
[05:21] <Coburn> lighttpd? nginx?
[05:21] <Fudge> hi, fresh install quantal on eeepc 1000ha and wireless still continues to prompt me for password without connecting. keep experiencing this, please help :D
[05:21] <Gnome3man> Captain_Claw: Also added kupfer to have access to file manager
[05:21] <Erin> I love my internet, downloading 12.10 in 2 mins flat ;-P
[05:21] <Coburn> Say apache and I'll shoot you
[05:21] <b1lly> whats wrong with apache
[05:21] <Coburn> Erin: you make me jealous
[05:21] <Captain_Claw> Gnome3man: ah, ok, thanks!  any other problems?  like unity not working properly afterwards or something like that?
[05:21] <Gnome3man> Captain_Claw: Not sure if its my expereince alone..
[05:21] <Coburn> Oh gawd, apache
[05:22]  * Coburn spits out his coffee
[05:22] <Erin> Coburn, 7MB/S current dl speed ;-)
[05:22] <b1lly> whats wrong with apache
[05:22] <metap0d> i <3 apache.
[05:22] <Coburn> max here on ADSL2+ is 2.5Mb/s
[05:22] <Coburn> Australia...
[05:22] <Erin> eww dsl
[05:22] <Captain_Claw> Gnome3man: also, any idea how easy it is to uninstall ?
[05:22] <Erin> doesn't all australian internet have crappy bandwidth caps also ?
[05:22] <Coburn> yeah
[05:22] <alone> use "alone" as nick on a english's channel.. error x)
[05:22] <b1lly> Coburn: ...?
[05:22] <Erin> thats so lame :-D
[05:22] <Fudge> we do
[05:22] <Coburn> don't get me started on that junky webserver, that is apache
[05:22] <Coburn> it's slow
[05:23] <Erin> i've dled 1TB+ in a month and never had them say word one to me ;-)
[05:23] <Coburn> it r**es your server under load
[05:23] <Coburn> it eats your memory for breakfast
[05:23] <Gnome3man> Captain_Claw: No, Unity works like a charm.. Not sure if I buy into the idea of creating a new GUI... Gnome 3 rocks
[05:23] <Coburn> process management is a PITA
[05:23] <Coburn> I love nginx, and it loves me
[05:23] <Coburn> Even though it's not user friendly config-wise, nginx craps on Apache
[05:23] <Gnome3man> Captain_Claw: Uninstall what?
[05:24] <Erin> my opinion is XFCE is the best right now, low resource usage but very useable
[05:24] <Captain_Claw> Gnome3man: uninstall gnome3
[05:24] <Coburn> Captain_Claw: sudo apt-get purge gnome3
[05:24] <Coburn> actually
[05:24] <Coburn> Captain_Claw: sudo apt-get purge gnome3*
[05:24] <Coburn> the star will match EVERYTHING gnome3
[05:24] <metap0d> was captain_claw the main villain in inspector gadget?
[05:25] <Coburn> Be careful though
[05:25] <Captain_Claw> Coburn: safe to do?
[05:25] <Coburn> Captain_Claw: Review it before you say yes
[05:25] <Fudge> anyone experienced their w/nic's prompting for wireless password again and again without connecting?
[05:25] <Gnome3man> Coburn: thought that was gnome-shell?
[05:25] <Captain_Claw> Coburn: ok
[05:25] <Coburn> Fudge: yes. it means your wifi is derping, power cycle the adapter
[05:25] <Fudge> why not just install xfce4-desktop or what eve rthe metapackage is called and tell lightdm to use that session
[05:25] <Coburn> I've had the issue on my laptop
[05:25] <dougbb> Fudge: are you 10000000% sure the password is right?
[05:26] <Coburn> Erin: I'd say LXDE but it's like erm a mix bag of stuff
[05:26] <Fudge> yep 100% positive, this is really giving me greif
[05:26] <dougbb> xfce++ :)
[05:26] <Fudge> Coburn  you mean reboot modem?
[05:26] <Coburn> I mean, the config apps are not even related
[05:26] <Erin> Coburn, ahh LXDE is like the only one i've never tried
[05:26] <Coburn> there's always DWM
[05:26] <Erin> I'm in love with xfce right now, used to use gnome, and then tried fluxbox. fluxbox is pretty nice too
[05:26] <dougbb> Fudge: ok, then do what Coburn said :)
[05:26] <Coburn> Fudge: no, not reboot modem, power cycle your adapter
[05:27] <Coburn> disable it and re-enable it
[05:27] <Coburn> you should have a key combo or switch
[05:27] <dougbb> Fudge: if you have control over the ap, try removing the security temporarily to see if it connects at all
[05:27] <Erin> Fudge, do you have wpa_supplicant installed ? are u using WPA?
[05:27] <Fudge> good ideas, yep fn f2 will diable/enable thanks
[05:27] <Coburn> Yeah
[05:27] <Coburn> I've been in the same boat
[05:27] <Coburn> sometimes a kernel upgrade fixes it
[05:28] <Erin> also
[05:28] <Coburn> or installing the manufacture's driver
[05:28] <Erin> Fudge, you can try rmmod the wifi adapter module
[05:28] <Coburn> that sometimes fixes the issue too
[05:28] <Erin> and modprobe it again
[05:28] <Erin> some times that helps
[05:28] <Coburn> !bootstrap
[05:28] <Coburn> !dbootstrap
[05:28] <Coburn> !debootstrap
[05:28] <Erin> Fudge, sudo rmmod <module name> && sudo modprobe <module name>
[05:28] <Erin> ^^ def worth a try.
[05:30] <Gnome3man> Captain_Claw: Also be aware you must go to upper right hand corner to access gnome hud ... Is that what that interface is called??? unsure
[05:30] <Gnome3man> Captain_Claw: ops upper left hand corner..
[05:30] <Captain_Claw> Gnome3man: upper left, right?
[05:30] <Fudge> well guys, with security disabled it connects
[05:30] <Captain_Claw> Gnome3man: yeah :)
[05:31] <Fudge> I guess enable and try again?
[05:31] <Captain_Claw> Gnome3man: Coburn thanks for your help guys
[05:31] <Captain_Claw> (or girls) :)
[05:31] <Coburn> no problems
[05:31] <Erin> Fudge, what kind of security is it and how are you connecting to it?
[05:31] <Fudge> also the wireless filter was still set on allowed mac addresses so that is now disabled, that may help
[05:32] <Fudge> wpa2
[05:32] <Coburn> ah, no wonder
[05:32] <Erin> Fudge, is the wpa_supplicant package installed ?
[05:32] <Coburn> yeah
[05:32] <Coburn> if it's ubuntu it should be installed, Erin
[05:32] <Erin> LOL you had mac address filter on?
[05:32] <Coburn> mac address filter is for the weak
[05:32] <Erin> you might be good to go then if u turned it off now or added the mac of the wifi adapter
[05:32] <Gnome3man> Captain_Claw: Dude I don't think we have that many girls here!
[05:32] <danon> how do you customize the system bars
[05:33] <danon> like the task bar and program bar
[05:33] <Coburn> Girls that know their Ubuntu?! Where?
[05:33] <Coburn> :P
[05:33] <Erin> Coburn, actually its smart considering how weak WEP/WPA encryption actually is :-)
[05:33] <Coburn> Meh
[05:33] <Fudge> Erin  I have an old ibook that doesnt like wpa or even wep
[05:33] <Coburn> I have a WiFi app on my Android phone that can kill any wifi device connecting
[05:33] <Erin> I cracked my own WEP key in like 5 minutes once on ubuntu just to see if I could ;-)
[05:33] <Coburn> How?
[05:33] <Erin> aircrack-ng
[05:34] <dougbb> wpa2 with AES is about the best you can do nowadays
[05:34] <Gnome3man> Coburn: Girls that know IRC! here
[05:34] <b1lly> is there any reason to use "yum" package installer over apt-get/
[05:34] <dougbb> wep is a joke :)
[05:34] <b1lly> or pip
[05:34] <Erin> b1lly, yum is for suse not ubuntu im pretty sure
[05:34] <Coburn> b1lly: yum is red hat
[05:34] <Erin> debian based uses apt
[05:34] <Coburn> apt is godly
[05:34] <Erin> yes it is :-)
[05:34] <b1lly> so if I instaleld yum
[05:34] <Coburn> it's better than yum in some things
[05:34] <b1lly> its pointless
[05:34] <Erin> i wouldn't install yum
[05:34] <Coburn> b1lly: you won't find it in debian distros
[05:34] <Erin> it might break your system having 2 package managers going
[05:34] <Coburn> you should be shot for the suggestion
[05:35] <b1lly> can I uninstall it
[05:35] <Coburn> and also, yum uses rpm
[05:35] <Coburn> of cords
[05:35] <Coburn> course*
[05:35] <b1lly> ok, so I accidently installed it
[05:35] <d4rkh4nd> can i passwd username  in grub ?
[05:35] <b1lly> how do I get rid of it
[05:35] <Fudge> ok its fixed woohooo
[05:35] <Erin> b1lly, sudo apt-get purge yum
[05:35] <dougbb> Fudge: :)
[05:35] <Fudge> it was a setting i had wrong in modem with the filtering, thanks for getting me to  look hehe
[05:35] <Coburn> also, has Ubuntu got a safeguard against 'sudo apt-get remove dpkg apt-get' ?
[05:35] <Coburn> wait
[05:35] <Gnome3man> If your going yum suggest using Pacman Rossetta... Crazy Idea thou... lol
[05:36] <Coburn> also, has Ubuntu got a safeguard against 'sudo apt-get remove dpkg apt' ? *
[05:36] <b1lly> so what exactly is debian
[05:36] <Coburn> the fundamentals of Debian
[05:36] <Erin> b1lly, debian is a linux distro, ubuntu is based on it
[05:36] <cfhowlett> !debian|billy
[05:36] <Coburn> b1lly: please google
[05:36] <Coburn> :)
[05:36] <Erin> Ive actually thought about using debian for awhile
[05:36] <b1lly> I use ubuntu
[05:36] <Coburn> Debian Wheezy is good
[05:36] <Erin> but the support is always so good here no way im changing now ;-)
[05:37] <Coburn> Debian support is lazy at times
[05:37] <Coburn> Ubuntu is good, but no offese, but unity UI is sh*t
[05:37] <Erin> i love having an SSD for the / on this server box. so fast ;-D
[05:37] <Coburn> I WANT MY CLASSIC DESKTOP BACK
[05:37] <Erin> unity is crap I agree Im using xfce when I need a gui, but usually no gui on this box I run TeamSpeak server and some torrents on it
[05:37] <Gnome3man> Coburn: might want to try linux mint MATE OR CINNAMON ..
[05:38] <Coburn> Yeah
[05:38] <danon> Coburn search gnome-session-rollback
[05:38] <Coburn> To be frank, I wanted to use Linux as my daily driver, but WINE is messy with games
[05:38] <XiaolinDraconis> somehow i managed to get a 100gig file on a 40gig partition, damn im good
[05:38]  * dougbb tempted to install stock ubuntu just to see why people are complaining so much about unity
[05:38] <b1lly> so ubuntu is just a branch of debian
[05:38] <lafon> I've found that precise often kicks me off wifi. Is there some way to make it more reliable?
[05:39] <Coburn> lafon: feed it more ram
[05:39] <Coburn> ;)
[05:39] <Gnome3man> Coburn: Not quite sure what the IDEA of Cinnamon is??  Cross between Unity's graphics and Gnome 2 simplicity
[05:39] <Coburn> RAM is like bacon, computers love it
[05:40] <lafon> Coburn: Hah! Just one of the reasons I left win was because it used too much ram
[05:40] <Erin> Coburn, I like ur style, bacon goes with anything so does ram
[05:41] <Erin> Coburn, also yea I wish I could drop windows ( have it running on my best machine cause of games :-( i5 3570k / gtx 670
[05:41] <Coburn> I'll return to Linux the day that Black Ops 2 runs perfectly
[05:41] <Erin> Coburn, oh now I hate ur style, cod games :-(
[05:41] <hmmwhatsthisdo> unfortunately, Steam on linux doesn't work very well.
[05:41] <Coburn> one thing though
[05:41] <Coburn> Valve is working with the Source Engine to run on Linux
[05:41] <hmmwhatsthisdo> true, true
[05:41] <Coburn> So maybe Half Life 3 for Linux
[05:41] <Coburn> That would be killer
[05:42] <Erin> yea
[05:42] <Coburn> Linux. Back on the grid.
[05:42] <hmmwhatsthisdo> but that's beginning with the L4D engine, meaning stuff like TF2 will probably never see it
[05:42] <Coburn> heh
[05:42] <Erin> if games ran on linux ALOT of people would switch
[05:42] <Coburn> I thought TF2 was based on HL2?
[05:42] <hmmwhatsthisdo> and also, I use Steam in an unorthodox method, something that probably would never work on linux
[05:42] <sargennto> TF2 is confirmed for steam and linux..
[05:42] <Coburn> My gaming laptop is a Core i7 2620QM / GTX670M
[05:42] <Erin> hmmwhatsthisdo, what is that ?
[05:42] <hmmwhatsthisdo> sargennto: orly?
[05:43] <Coburn> Although, one thing though
[05:43] <hmmwhatsthisdo> Erin: I have 4 instances of Steam running - my main account and 3 idlers that farm drops in TF2
[05:43] <sargennto> hmmwhatsthisdo: thinkin so.. let me find the the website to confirm
[05:43] <Coburn> you know ARM systems, right? They are getting really nice GPUs.
[05:43] <Coburn> Think about it, if the engine was able to run nativiely on whatever platform
[05:44] <hmmwhatsthisdo> sargennto: I'll take your word for it. Though, I have something like 85-100 games, and I doubt the majority of them would ever run on linux
[05:44] <Coburn> you could have a little embedded box running Half Life
[05:44] <Erin> hmmwhatsthisdo, lol
[05:44] <lafon> Not sure I'll ever get an arm system
[05:44] <hmmwhatsthisdo> Coburn: honestly, I kind of doubt source could run on anything smaller than a laptop
[05:44] <hmmwhatsthisdo> that thing is a pig
[05:44] <Erin> ahh my dist upgrade is done brb
[05:44] <Coburn> I work on my own distro for the Raspberry Pi
[05:44] <Coburn> And it's GPU is on par with the Xbox (if not better)
[05:45] <sargennto> I want a pi..
[05:45] <hmmwhatsthisdo> I mean, TF2 is something like 6 GB, plus about half a gig of ram when running
[05:45] <Coburn> Raspberry Pi v2 has 512MB RAM
[05:45] <hmmwhatsthisdo> when it's running
[05:45] <Coburn> The other device I'm working with, CuBox, has 1GB DDR3 RAM
[05:45] <hmmwhatsthisdo> plus os overhead, etc.
[05:45] <hmmwhatsthisdo> is that shared with the graphics chip?
[05:46] <Coburn> Yeah, but it's controllable
[05:46] <Coburn> stock setup is 384MB for GPU
[05:46] <Gnome3man> Now I know what Gnome3 reminds me of!  Its Easypeasy for netbooks! :P
[05:46] <Coburn> but you can shink it down to 8MB
[05:46] <hmmwhatsthisdo> ...I get about 55 fps on TF2 on a high-end setup with 3GHz and 8GB ram
[05:46] <dougbb> unity .... we did windows 8 first
[05:47] <Coburn> Windows 8 - fail
[05:47] <hmmwhatsthisdo> you could definitely shoehorn it into a smaller system, but performance will suffer
[05:47] <Coburn> dougbb: http://coburndomain.net/2012/10/coburn-gets-thrown-into-cold-water-his-windows-8-story/
[05:47] <Coburn> That's my story with Win8
[05:47] <Erin> cat /etc/isstrans
[05:47] <lafon> Win8 is ok if you've got a touchscreen
[05:47] <Erin> wtf
[05:47] <Coburn> ?
[05:47] <lafon> Otherwise you're screwed
[05:48] <Coburn> yeah
[05:48] <Coburn> f*** metro
[05:48] <sargennto> hmmwhatsthisdo: apparently within the next week the linux steam beta could be happening.. the games for the beta appear to be TF2, Portal, and Serious Sam 3
[05:48] <Erin> okay well that was an easy upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10
[05:48] <mad-leigh> Hello I'm using Kubuntu 12.10 -  would like to remove Amazon.
[05:48] <Erin> 2 commands ;-P
[05:48] <Coburn> Kubuntu is obsolete isn't it
[05:48] <robbie> how can I set up dhcp but still use a static ip? (static IP with dhcp for dns, etc)
[05:48] <mad-leigh> is it
[05:48] <Coburn> wait
[05:48] <Coburn> I think it was unsupported by Concail
[05:48] <hmmwhatsthisdo> sargennto: Portal or P2?
[05:48] <Erin> robbie, does ur router have address reservatio ?
[05:49] <mad-leigh> I was using UE 3.4 but the dark themes were doing my head in.
[05:49] <Coburn> But will TF2 and Portal only run on x86 or is it multi-platform?
[05:49] <robbie> Erin: yes
[05:49] <Coburn> because TF2 running on CuBox = awesome
[05:49] <Erin> robbie, then use it, setup dhcp on the ubuntu box and have it reserve an address on the router
[05:49] <robbie> Erin: its called "static ip address allocation" on my router
[05:49] <mad-leigh> is there a room better suited to my needs?
[05:49] <Erin> yea do that ;-)
[05:50] <Erin> thats what I use works grea
[05:50] <robbie> Erin: I do that but the machine keeps disconnecting and reconnecting every few seconds
[05:50] <sargennto> hmmwhatsthisdo: just says Portal
[05:50] <ASHER1> !he
[05:50] <ASHER1> lol
[05:50] <robbie> Erin: that is *not* the right answer, ufortunately
[05:50] <Coburn> !kubuntu
[05:50] <Erin> robbie, idk is it wifi ?
[05:50] <mad-leigh> thank you
[05:50] <Coburn> !kubuntu|mad-leigh
[05:50] <robbie> Erin: nop :) thats where most of the help pages go though.. :)
[05:50] <mad-leigh> I see above thanks
[05:51] <Coburn> mad-leigh: no problems. hope your problem is solved
[05:51] <robbie> Erin: so no idea how to set up dhcp *with* static ip
[05:51] <Coburn> robbie: uh
[05:51] <mad-leigh> cheers.. now to workout how to use this ... smiles n goodbye
[05:51] <Erin> not sure robbie thats what I use it work fine
[05:51] <robbie> Coburn: hmm?
[05:51] <Coburn> robbie: just configure a static IP using the NetworkManager
[05:52] <robbie> Coburn: the problem is then it doesnt use the dhcp lease and the router keeps resetting the connection
[05:52] <robbie> Coburn: I must use *both* static IP and the dhcp lease
[05:52] <Coburn> hmm... sounds weir
[05:52] <Coburn> d
[05:52] <almoxarife> robbie: you need to use an ip that the router will accept first, you control the router?
[05:53] <robbie> Coburn: I must use *both* static IP and the dhcp lease .. the lease wont send ip data just the dns and stuff
[05:53] <robbie> almoxarife: I do :)
[05:53] <robbie> almoxarife: I chose the ip already, 192.168.1.242
[05:53] <Erin> robbie, what is ur net connection, cable ?
[05:53] <dougbb> robbie, you probably want to look through your router's documentation and figure out how to do what you want ... it's a common feature, you should be able to find it
[05:54] <almoxarife> robbie: is that ip avail from the router?
[05:54] <Erin> ls
[05:54] <robbie> dougbb: the router is set up for it, its not the problem. the problem is the pc
[05:54] <robbie> almoxarife: yea,, like you said I control it so I set it
[05:54] <dougbb> robbie: do you have any other devices that use dhcp?
[05:54] <Erin> robbie is ur connection to the net cable ?
[05:54] <robbie> Erin: yes
[05:55] <Erin> robbie, so then just use static, and for the dns address you use the routers IP
[05:55] <Erin> and have the router grab info via DHCP from the modem
[05:55] <robbie> Erin: no I cant do that, the router keeps hanging up if I do
[05:55] <Erin> then ur router is faulty
[05:55] <Coburn> chuck it in the bin
[05:55] <almoxarife> robbie: like i said then, given the router has the ip avail and netoworkmanager is very flexible at setting static i would assume the error is human and not machine, although being human i could also be wrong
[05:55] <Erin> yea
[05:56] <dougbb> robbie: do you have any other devices that use dhcp?
[05:56] <robbie> Erin: they just sent a replacement .. it cant be faulty
[05:56] <Coburn> it can be
[05:56] <Coburn> anything can die
[05:56] <Erin> is it an all in one router/modem ?
[05:56] <robbie> almoxarife: dont assume
[05:56] <dougbb> robbie: of course it can be faulty :)
[05:56] <robbie> dougbb: yes many
[05:56] <Erin> robbie, is the router/modem one machine ?
[05:56] <robbie> Erin: yes
[05:57] <dougbb> robbie: ok, try configuring one of them for a reserved address ... that should help you rule out ubuntu as the problem
[05:57] <Erin> then if you have it grabbing IP/DNS info from the ISP using DHCP you should be able to use static on any machine with the DNS being the modem/router IP
[05:57] <Erin> if it doesn't work i'd say the hardware is somehow faulty
[05:58] <Erin> ls
[05:58] <robbie> hmm ok I guess the answer is "in linux, you cant use dhcp but discard the ip information"
[05:58] <Erin> fuck man using 2 KB/mouse is not working when im half asleep :-p
[05:59] <almoxarife> ooopsie
[06:00] <robbie> Erin, dougbb, Coburn, almoxarife: thanks guys
[06:00] <almoxarife> robbie: in win also, dhcp=hey router give me an ip
[06:01] <Erin> LOL :-\
[06:01] <Erin> im using the exact setup he wants to use with 0 issues
[06:01] <Erin> heres a question. How do I tell a daemon not to start with ubuntu?
[06:02] <Erin> I have to manually kill it + re-run with my settings currently....
[06:02] <michael_> when I ping a ubuntu server(10.1.3.5) under XP, I get reply with TTL=255, but Remote Desktop don't log in the ubuntu server.
[06:02] <somsip> michael_: firewall?
[06:03] <michael_> but when I get reply with TTL=64, I can log in the ubuntu server.
[06:03] <michael_> I have closed the firewall in XP.
[06:04] <somsip> so is the RDP port open on the ubuntu server?
[06:05] <michael_> I have enabled all the port from XP access
[06:06] <michael_> sudo ufw allow 10.1.3.5
[06:06] <somsip> michael_: I thought you said the ubuntu server was 10.1.3.5?
[06:06] <michael_> yes
[06:07] <michael_> sorry, sudo ufw allow 10.1.3.13
[06:07] <michael_> 10.1.3.13 is for XP
[06:07] <somsip> michael_: what RDP server?
[06:07] <michael_> VNC
[06:07] <wols_>  michael_ can you telnet to the ubuntu rdp server? does it connect?
[06:08] <somsip> michael_: not my area of knowledge, but I didn't think VNC used RDP...
[06:09] <XiaolinDraconis> whats the arch support channel?
[06:09] <wols_> somsip: VNC is no RDP server. it's no server at all, it's a protocol
[06:09] <michael_> I use Remote Desktop to login the ubuntu server, "Module:vnc-any"
[06:09] <wols_> XiaolinDraconis: ask ##linux
[06:09] <somsip> wols_: I thought something like that.
[06:09] <lahwran> dealing with disks in anything other than "vanilla" is black magic
[06:09] <SixtyFold> it's #ArchLinux
[06:10] <somsip> michael_: over to someone else. Sorry
[06:10] <michael_> maybe it is hardware issue.
[06:10] <wols_> michael_: again: can you telnet?
[06:11] <michael_> when I ping ubuntu server with the reply "TTL=255", I can't telenet.
[06:11] <wols_> I did not ask about ping, did I?
[06:11] <michael_> if TTL=64, I can telnet.
[06:12] <michael_> telnet 10.1.3.5
[06:12] <dougbb> michael_: if you see a ping with a ttl of 255 it's likely that you won't be able to reach the server at all
[06:14] <michael_> @dougbb: what 's wrong with it?
[06:14] <BlueLaguna> Hmm, where do I change which nvidia driver I'm using?
[06:14] <dougbb> probably a routing/network issue
[06:14] <BlueLaguna> I remember there used to be an area where you could select proprietary drivers
[06:14] <dougbb> michael_, you could try mtr ... wireshark on both ends would probably be useful as well
[06:14] <michael_> oh
[06:15] <Danon> what gui do yall like best like gnome, kde, all of them
[06:15] <michael_> what' the mtr?
[06:15] <blackshirt> danon, all of them
[06:15] <Gnome3man> dougbb: traceroute would probably be best to see last node it communicates with...
[06:16] <rinzler> Danon: xfce is what I use, and I'm pretty dang happy with it
[06:16] <dougbb> Gnome3man: that's why I suggested mtr, it is easier to see where the problem is for someone who is not that familiar
[06:17] <Danon> what version of gnome does bt5 use?
[06:18] <Gnome3man> dougbb: first time I heard of mtr! ;)
[06:18] <dougbb> it's awesome :)
[06:18] <BlueLaguna> Hmm, never mind
[06:18] <BlueLaguna> Additional drivers are now in Software Sources for some reason
[06:19] <Gnome3man> dougbb: probably online websites that offer far more then just trace route...
[06:24] <jalexandru> Hi, I'm trying to run hylafax (server) I have an USB modem connected to my computer and hylafax installed. The issue is that when I run "service hylafax status" it shows stopped and running "service hylafax start/restart" ends up with "FAILED". Is there a place where I can see the error that returned "FAILED"?
[06:24] <Gnome3man> dougbb: mtr is not very accurate... as far as packet loss goes...
[06:25] <wols_> chec syslog
[06:25] <dougbb> depends on what you mean by "accurate," it uses a different technique than traditional traceroute
[06:25] <jalexandru> wols_: where is syslog?
[06:25] <Coburn> jalexandru: look in /etc/default to see if you have a hylafax entry there, if so, open it with a text editor as superuser and you may have a switch you need to set to TRUE or YES
[06:25] <wols_> /var/log
[06:25] <Coburn> jalexandru: do tail /var/log/syslog
[06:26] <Coburn> in a console
[06:26] <Gnome3man> dougbb: how is it measuring packet loss when we use less ideal meathods of transfer/recieve??
[06:26] <dougbb> Gnome3man: easier for you to read the docs than for me to explain :)
[06:28] <ankur> I have lubuntu 12.10 installed. In the previous version i.e. 12.04 pressing the 'windows' key used to bring up lxde menu, but that doesn't seem to work in 12.10. How do I make windows key to pop lxde menu up?
[06:30] <Gnome3man> dougbb: already understand meathods was in US Coast Guard as Radio/Satellite/Computer communications...Less then ideal do to AC current changed to DC current then sent across lines that use switches that use AC current transfer to DC to restrengthen signal and send the data down the line. Causes a loss in packet integrate. Worst part this software shows no loss.
[06:31] <ankur> I have lubuntu 12.10 installed. In the previous version i.e. 12.04 pressing the 'windows' key used to bring up lxde menu, but that doesn't seem to work in 12.10. How do I make windows key to pop lxde menu up?
[06:34] <ankur> I have lubuntu 12.10 installed. In the previous version i.e. 12.04 pressing the 'windows' key used to bring up lxde menu, but that doesn't seem to work in 12.10. How do I make windows key to pop lxde menu up?
[06:35] <dougbb> ankur: have you tried asking in #lubuntu ?
[06:36] <Gnome3man> ankur: Try alt + space ... google next time one second result..
[06:37] <Gnome3man> ankur:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/140307/lubuntu-keyboard-shortcut-for-menu
[06:38] <Gnome3man> ankur: Alt+F1 or Ctl+Escape are the keybindings for opening the main menu.
[06:46] <davidseibert> quit
[06:48] <rinzler> What torrent software can be used in a headless server?
[06:48] <nikolam> do you think it is safe to use ubuntu with BTRFS file system as root? And do upgrades between non-LTS releases with it?
[06:48] <dougbb> qbittorrent has a nice nox client rinzler
[06:48] <nikolam> Also what do you think with using ZFS as root for Ubuntu
[06:48] <xangua> nikolam: it is safe to use ext4
[06:49] <nikolam> xangua, But I think snapshots are a killer feature. And I already got used on ZFS
[06:49] <nikolam> I managed to easy install from xubuntu alternate CD on btrfs
[06:51] <nikolam> original plan was to install all three, Ubuntu, FreeBSD and Illumos/Openindiana on ZFS and boot from there, but BTRFS have muti-volume support and can use many raid levels on same disks group
[06:52] <nikolam> like, having raid1 for system and important user data and raid0 for scratch files and swap or movies etc
[06:52] <nikolam> and on same disks
[06:52] <nikolam> on same partitions
[06:53] <Naddy> I run some "public access" computers in my coffee shop - I have them locked down well but decided that I would like them to restart the display manager when idle, sometimes.  I have a perl script that is called when idle from the root - it contains exec "/usr/bin/service gdm restart 2>/tmp/error.file" - I get "exec" 129: restart not found" - what am I missing here?
[06:56] <PoorCollegeGuy> Naddy, did you give it root access?
[06:56] <nikolam> Naddy, /usr/bin/service is just a symlink to /usr/sbin/service ?
[06:56] <wastrel> Naddy: some init scripts don't have a restart target.  does that work from command line ?
[06:57] <Naddy> PoorCollegeGuy: the script IS owned by root and is executed periodically by crontab for the root
[06:58] <Naddy> wastrel: the "exec" works perfectly from the command line, that is: /usr/bin/service gdm restart works perfectly as expected
[06:58] <dougbb> Naddy: it's sort of a hack, but try writing a /bin/sh script that has the commands you want, and exec that
[06:59] <PoorCollegeGuy> Naddy, lol had to ask. eliminate all the possibilities right?
[06:59] <Naddy> dougbb: why would that help?
[07:00] <Naddy> PoorCollegeGuy: I agree - and it seems that it will be something like that
[07:00] <somsip> Naddy: maybe this would help (lunatico comment) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1510888
[07:00] <dougbb> because for some reason exec is getting confused about the arguments to service
[07:00] <dougbb> so if you only have one argument, the script, that should fix it
[07:00] <dougbb> ... or at least work around the problem
[07:01] <Naddy> dougbb: ok - I will try but seems weird that exec would have a problem, but I like it
[07:02] <Naddy> somsip: yes - that was basically what I am trying to do but I need it to be sort of conditional - and so I have the perl script that decides whether to do it
[07:04] <dougbb> Naddy: you should also try using system("stuff"); instead of exec
[07:04] <Naddy> somsip: you have it - and looking at the gdm script I see that the problem is that it is now an alias to upstart and so we do need to ensure that the name is right
[07:05] <Naddy> ty so much everyone - problem is solved
[07:05] <somsip> Naddy: cool
[07:06] <PoorCollegeGuy> awesome Naddy :)
[07:09] <Xiaolei> how many people use kubuntu?
[07:12] <konza> Xiaolei, You need the count? or you have some other problem in your kubuntu
[07:14] <cfhowlett> !details|Xiaolei:
[07:15]  * Coburn slaps ubottu
[07:15] <Coburn> HOW IMPOLIE
[07:15] <Coburn> POLITE*
[07:15] <FloodBot1> Coburn: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:15] <Gnome3man> Xiaolei: OpenBox, gnome 3, Mate, Cinnamon and Xmonad. Ubuntu and Arch Linux
[07:16] <Gnome3man> Xiaolei: Distro Jumper.. Sky Diver... :P
[07:17] <Gnome3man> Time for veetle later :P
[07:18] <d1rkp1tt> Hi all... just trying to get vnc working on 12.10 .. My old xstartup used to have /usr/bin/gnome-session --session=ubuntu-2d &
[07:18] <d1rkp1tt> obbiously that doesnt work anymore
[07:18] <d1rkp1tt> Does anyone know what the session should be now?
[07:18] <d1rkp1tt> Now that 2d is removed?
[07:23] <nikolam> Anyone know how to change back primary partition to extended, without loosing data on it (I used to change it from extended to primary before that I now can not mount it)
[07:23] <tacomaster> i am lost i am trying to fix a duplicate sources.list entry and it gives me the one it is saying is duplicated but when i 'cat /etc/apt/sources.list | grep http://extras.ubuntu.come/ubuntu' i only get 2 entries returned a deb and a deb-src? so how is there a duplicate?
[07:23] <dougbb> nikolam: extended and primary are not interchangable
[07:25] <nikolam> dougbb, I maanged to change extended to primary, once. Maybe I forgot and re=created. That is it maybe.
[07:25] <dougbb> sure, you can change them in a tool like gparted, but once you do that, the logical partitions in the extended are gone
[07:26] <darin_> Anyone know what xstartup config changes to for vncserver in 12.10?
[07:26] <darin_> ...
[07:27] <dougbb> nikolam: if what you need to do is make it extended again, you'll have to delete the primary partition, then create a new extended one
[07:27] <dougbb> ... or vice versa
[07:27] <nikolam> dougbb, yes, i know :)
[07:27] <dougbb> nikolam: sooooooo.... what's the question? :)
[07:28] <nikolam> I just have some zfs on that primary now that I can not recognize, because it was also md partiton before that :) I was thinking about changing it's from sda4 to sda5 like it was before to enable to be recognized :) complicated, ha?
[07:28] <nikolam> nevermind :)
[07:33] <tacomaster> nvm i figured it out
[07:37] <ewet> hi, has there been some improvement to the nvidia/tty situation yet? I would really like to have 3d acc but I won't trade TTY access for it ... (geforce 7300 LE)
[07:50] <dougbb> ewet, what do you mean "the tty situation"
[07:56] <Danon> anybody up?
[07:56] <dougbb> what the heck is with all the nick changing?
[07:56] <aeon-ltd> Danon: hello
[07:57] <dougbb> Danon: if you have a question, just ask :)
[07:58] <pgdac> "The following packages have unmet dependencies" This is the error i am getting when going to install anything! How to fix this ?
[07:58] <dougbb> pgdac: install the dependencies?
[07:58] <Danon> im so bored
[07:59] <Danon> does anybody know of any good tech shows?
[07:59] <bazhang> !ot | Danon
[08:00] <pgdac> dougbb: Oh! In ubuntu it install dependencies by its own defualt. This is the problem i am facing. I have never got these kind of dependencies issue
[08:00] <blackshirt> pgdac, update your apt database
[08:00] <blackshirt> danon, maybe
[08:00] <pgdac> blackshirt: How to do that
[08:00] <blackshirt> pgdac, apt-get update would do that
[08:00] <pgdac> blackshirt: Already updated
[08:01] <blackshirt> pgdac, what packages are you trying to install ?
[08:01] <xjiujiu_> i got a error message when I open the update manager....
[08:01] <xjiujiu_> Could not initialize the package information
[08:01] <xjiujiu_> An unresolvable problem occurred while initializing the package information.
[08:01] <xjiujiu_> E:The package adobereader-chs:i386 needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.'
[08:02] <xjiujiu_> I google it and found this method to fix.
[08:02] <pgdac> blackshirt: For Any packages, the dependencies problem
[08:02] <xjiujiu_> sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* -vf
[08:02] <xjiujiu_> sudo apt-get update
[08:03] <blackshirt> pgdac, try specifying with apt-get -f install
[08:03] <xjiujiu_> But its not work for me.
[08:03] <pgdac> blackshirt: Already tried but ...
[08:03] <bazhang> xjiujiu_, are you trying to install acroread?
[08:03] <XiaolinDraconis> im trying to dd a qemu image to my hard drive, on the drive is an extended partition sdb1 inside that are 3 partitions all of which is mirrored in the qemu image, im not sure why the dd command keeps telling me no space left on the drive
[08:04] <xjiujiu_> XiaolinDraconis: no~
[08:04] <xjiujiu_> bazhang: no~
[08:04] <bazhang> xjiujiu_, adobe reader is acroread
[08:04] <Doxin[jerb]> is it possible to edit the iptables rules in a config file instead using the tedious insert/append?
[08:04] <xjiujiu_> What's it that?
[08:05] <blackshirt> pgdac, but ???
 E:The package adobereader-chs:i38    <------- xjiujiu_
[08:05] <pgdac> blackshirt:  Same problem
[08:05] <bazhang> xjiujiu_, adobereader IS acroread
[08:05] <blackshirt> pgdac, have you activated all component on your sources.list
[08:05] <xjiujiu_> bazhang: ok
[08:06] <bazhang> !info acroread partner | xjiujiu_
[08:06] <pgdac> blackshirt:  Tell me how to do that?
[08:06] <xjiujiu_> bazhang: That means I need to install the acroread?
[08:06] <bazhang> xjiujiu_, install it from partner
[08:06] <blackshirt> pgdac, try specifying with apt-get -f install
[08:06] <bazhang> !partner | xjiujiu_
[08:06] <xjiujiu_> ok
[08:06] <pgdac> blackshirt: Oh! Already did that
[08:06] <xjiujiu_> bazhang: I am trying.
[08:07] <pgdac> blackshirt:  902 not upgraded
[08:08] <blackshirt> pgdac, coomonly, four components default available, main,restricted,multiverse, universe
[08:09] <blackshirt> commonly, sorry
[08:09] <pgdac> blackshirt: I tried many comand to fix it, also by myself or from google search but issue is stil there
[08:09] <kss> !list
[08:10] <XiaolinDraconis> im trying to dd an image that contains an extended partition with 3 logicals in it, how can i get it onto my drive just the way it is in the image
[08:11] <blackshirt> pgdac, have you want to upgrade it ? But do with carefully
[08:11] <XiaolinDraconis> i have the drive partitioned in the same way
[08:11] <pgdac> blackshirt: It is also not upgrading
[08:13] <pgdac> blackshirt: doing apt-get upgrade shows this " The following packages have been kept back" and the nlots of packages name and at end it is showing that 902 not upgraded
[08:13] <crimsonmane> apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:14] <blackshirt> pgdac, you can do upgrade with answer yes
[08:14] <pgdac> blackshirt: Ok ! Thanks. I was doing by do-release-upgrade
[08:14] <blackshirt> pgdac, but, i'm make a notice for you, do it with carefully
[08:14] <pgdac> blackshirt: I think after this i'll have my problem solve
[08:15] <pgdac> crimsonmane: blackshirt : Thanks!
[08:15] <blackshirt> pgdac, good lucks ...
[08:16] <xjiujiu_> bazhang: I still got the error message.
[08:16] <blackshirt> Pgdac, actually you can dit in download mode, with passing download only mode do apt-get
[08:16] <blackshirt> pgdac, can do it ... Sorry for wrong typo
[08:16] <pgdac> blackshirt: Please explain what you want to say
[08:16] <blackshirt> pgdac, sorry for miss typo
[08:17] <xjiujiu_> I can't execute the command "sudo apt-get install acroread"
[08:17] <xjiujiu_> What's the fuck!
[08:17] <IdleOne> !language | xjiujiu_
[08:18] <xjiujiu_> Sorry.
[08:18] <rumpe1> xjiujiu_, you have to hit enter at the end of the command
[08:18] <bazhang> xjiujiu_, enable the partner repo first
[08:18] <blackshirt> xjiujiu_, use other pdf viewer, a lot of available on repo
[08:18] <blackshirt> xjiujiu_, evince was one of them
[08:18] <bazhang> xjiujiu_, then update, sudo apt-get update and try again
[08:19]  * hmmwhatsthisdo wonders what people must think when they ask a question and get three different answers
[08:19] <pgdac> blackshirt: Actually i have no important data in ubuntu 10.04 , so i am going to upgrade it without tention :)
[08:20] <XiaolinDraconis> hmmwhatsthisdo, im usually happy to have options
[08:21] <XiaolinDraconis> wish i could get an answer on how to dd a qemu extended partition to a physical partition
[08:21] <blackshirt> pgdac, sound greats... But i should tell you, for some miss result for upgrading process, maybe bring you in stuck ....
[08:22] <XiaolinDraconis> ill even accept multiple choice answers
[08:22] <blackshirt> Pgdac, if you not have experienced with troubleshooting apt system, you would going to stuck
[08:22] <pgdac> blackshirt: Hm its true ! but i am going to relax  after inputing the command to terminal for upgradation
[08:23] <zetheroo> I am wondering if there is some sort of plugin for nautilus that allows the user to click a menu link which gives the user root access, or something, to the current directory ... I seem to recall there was something before in the right-click menu ....
[08:23] <pgdac> blackshirt: I am now familiar with  these things as m using ubuntu from years , even its stable version shows unstablness ..ummmmmmm
[08:24] <pgdac> blackshirt: Anyway Thanks Man! Good Day !
[08:25] <SixtyFold> i always fresh install, i never find ubuntu to be any more unstable than any other linux distro, tbh
[08:27] <hdon> hi all :) i'm trying to copy about two screens worth of text from xterm. my screen is large and my font is small. there are no newlines however, and i find that nano freezes and pegs my CPU, and gedit becomes highly unresponsive. can anyone recommend an alternative?
[08:27] <hdon> if there is a command that can just send my x clipboard to stdout, that would work
[08:27] <blackshirt> pgdac, ubuntu inherits debian greatness ....
[08:28] <hdon> xclip... might be it...
[08:28] <hdon> blackdex, ubuntu ruined debian
[08:28] <XiaolinDraconis> using dd in experimental ways... results in experimental results
[08:28]  * hdon runs away
[08:31] <Doxin[jerb]> in /etc/pam.d/sshd you can configure map auth modules. which is awesome. but is it possible to mark one as optional? as in, not all users need nor want a specific module, and it should only be active if it's configured for the specified user. how do I?
[08:35] <norwack> Hello. Whats the easiest way to setup a ssh tunneling in ubuntu? im going to tunnel trough another server
[08:36] <gordonjcp> norwack: what do you want to put over the tunnel?
[08:37] <gordonjcp> norwack: the basic syntax is ssh -L <local port>:<server>:<remote port> <server or gateway>
[08:37] <norwack> gordonjcp: surfing the web and irc mostly
[08:37] <gordonjcp> norwack: oh okay, so you want a proxy
[08:38] <gordonjcp> norwack: you want ssh -D <local port> server
[08:38] <gordonjcp> then in your proxy config set up a socks proxy point to localhost:<local port>
[08:38] <gordonjcp> <local port> can be anything sane
[08:39] <norwack> gordonjcp: thanks
[08:43] <norwack> gordonjcp: what would the local port be?
[08:51] <SixtyFold> anyone know a program similar to zdsoft screen recorder for ubuntu?
[08:53] <Doxin[jerb]> my server has horrible time slip, something on the order of 25000 seconds on a bad day, what is the reccomended way to keep this in check? (has to be within 3 minutes of the correct time)
[08:54] <Hyperbyte> Doxin[jerb], your clock skews 7 hours per day? :o
[08:55] <Doxin[jerb]> Hyperbyte: it's bad.
[08:55] <Doxin[jerb]> Hyperbyte: yay for shitty rtcs :P
[08:55] <rumpe1> Doxin[jerb], you could synchronize the clock every 3mins to an ntp-server :>
[08:55] <Doxin[jerb]> lol
[08:55] <Danon> sigh, its so lonely at night
[08:56] <Doxin[jerb]> rumpe1: I'm having it sync every hour actually atm, but that's a rather fugly solution
[08:56] <Doxin[jerb]> at leas I think
[08:56] <Doxin[jerb]> hm
[08:56]  * Doxin[jerb] checks the logs
[08:56] <Hyperbyte> Doxin[jerb], actually, you should run ntpd.  I think ntpd keeps track of clock changes so it can predict needed corrections.. it doesn't just sync to a time server
[08:57] <Doxin[jerb]> Hyperbyte: let me try that :P
[08:58] <Doxin[jerb]> Hyperbyte: rather important stuff if yer auth depends on it.
[08:58] <hmmwhatsthisdo> Doxin[jerb]: are you sure the rtc battery isn't dying?
[08:58] <Doxin[jerb]> hmmwhatsthisdo: possibly,
[08:58] <Doxin[jerb]> hmmwhatsthisdo: I'll have to look into that, but removing it would mean a server reboot D:
[08:58] <hmmwhatsthisdo> is it one of the button-cell types or a battery pack?
[08:59] <hmmwhatsthisdo> not necessarily, I think most motherboards will survive a few minutes w/o the RTC battery provided there is 120/240 power going to it
[08:59] <Doxin[jerb]> hmmwhatsthisdo: well sure, but I'm not poking around in there with a screwdriver if the power is connected :P
[09:00] <Doxin[jerb]> hmmwhatsthisdo: oh, actually. I have a nonconductive driver somewhere around here. yay.
[09:00] <hmmwhatsthisdo> oh, you mean you need to cut power to remove it safely?
[09:01] <hmmwhatsthisdo> nonsense, it should come out with a thumbnail if it's a button-cell
[09:05] <manhunter> Anybody there?
[09:05] <gordonjcp> manhunter: a couple of thousand people
[09:05] <cfhowlett> manhunter: greetings
[09:06] <shadab> Yes tell me
[09:07] <manhunter> Hello
[09:07] <shadab> Yes
[09:07] <manhunter> Can i ask question?
[09:07] <blackshirt> hello manhunter
[09:07] <cfhowlett> !ask|manhunter:
[09:07] <blackshirt> !ask | manhunter
[09:07] <shadab> Yes
[09:07] <marcus__> what to do if virtualbox "NAT" doesnt give internet?
[09:07] <manhunter> There is debian, why do we need ubuntu?
[09:07] <cfhowlett> !ot|manhunter:
[09:08] <blackshirt> manhunter, thats very relative and subjective to people
[09:09] <manhunter> No, that is a good question , i think
[09:09] <shadab> Thanks
[09:09] <opr> hi, im trying to use grep on my output like so: ./waf --run "scratch/wifi" --boost-includes=$BOOSTDIR/include --boost-libs=$BOOSTDIR/lib -v | grep lns
[09:09] <opr> but it doesn't filter the output it still prints everything
[09:10] <blackshirt> manhunter, no... Thats bad question... Long discussion have been happened in internet worlds about this
[09:11] <blackshirt> manhunter, if you have ubuntu related questions, ask with detail and completely
[09:14] <Yifus> test
[09:14] <blazemore> reply
[09:14] <Yifus> = =!
[09:14] <matej_> hi can someone tell why ubuntu frozes when I boot him from usb stick?
[09:14] <_cronus_> opr, maybe it's writing to stderr. try adding 2>&1 before |
[09:15] <t432> How would you add an app to autostart? (12.4)
[09:15] <cnf> anyone know how i can throttle a http download on the client? (i got disconnected, i dno if this got through last time)
[09:15] <opr> _cronus_,  that worked thanks!
[09:15] <rainbowwarrior2> hello
[09:16] <Eagleman> Can i run two different php versions on ubuntu and execute different one with a htacces files?
[09:16] <rainbowwarrior2> Hi, has anyone here used zoneminder at all please ?
[09:16] <gordonjcp> Eagleman: not trivially
[09:16] <t432> anyone?
[09:16] <gordonjcp> Eagleman: What exactly are you trying to do?
[09:16] <Eagleman> Running php 5.2 and 5.3.***
[09:16] <gordonjcp> t432: anyone what?
[09:16] <t432> How would you add an app to autostart? (12.4)
[09:16] <Eagleman> For my old mediawiki
[09:17] <gordonjcp> Eagleman: hm, is there *that* much of a difference?
[09:17] <Eagleman> Yes becuase the mediawiki plugins are not working with 5.3 and they are with 5.2
[09:17] <cfhowlett> rainbowwarrior2: greetings
[09:17] <rainbowwarrior2> hello cfhowlett
[09:18] <cfhowlett> rainbowwarrior2: what's the issue?
[09:19] <_cronus_> cnf, which client are you using?
[09:19] <rainbowwarrior2> i get a black screen in zoneminder although my webcam works fine in vlc etc
[09:19] <cfhowlett> rainbowwarrior2: sorry.  Can't help with that.
[09:20] <rainbowwarrior2> no worries cfhowlett  :o)
[09:20] <cnf> _cronus_: curl, but i can be flexible
[09:21] <_cronus_> cnf, wget has a --limit-rate option. ie wget --limit-rate=20k ftp://
[09:22] <_cronus_> cnf, curl seems to have it as well
[09:22] <cnf> yeah, just found that
[09:22] <cnf> _cronus_: thanks
[09:23] <Eagleman> So gordonjcp how can you do it?
[09:24] <Nowhere> Hello
[09:25] <Gnome3man> irc://irc.spotchat.org/#linuxmint-chat
[09:28] <t432> can you even add programs to autostart in ubuntu 12?
[09:30] <zelo> how can i tail -f whole directory except one particular file?
[09:32] <rainbowwarrior2> t432, this may interest you :- http://askubuntu.com/questions/48321/how-to-start-applications-at-startup-automatically
[09:32] <blazemore> t432: if you can't find the program anywhere, try running gnome-session-properties from the command line (or alt+f2).
[09:34] <cnf> _cronus_: works, though not very accurate :P
[09:34] <blazemore> zelo: for i in `ls directory | grep -v filename`; do tail -f $i; done
[09:34] <cnf> good enough though
[09:34] <blazemore> where "directory" is the directory full of files, and "filename" is the one you want to exclude
[09:39] <zelo> blazemore thanks. Someone on other channel suggest something like that and i will stick with that "shopt -s extglob; tail -f ./!(first_file_to_exclude|or_pattern*|or_something.else)" its pretty nice tool
[09:39] <zelo> "
[09:40] <blazemore> looks fine
[09:40] <oem> a
[09:41] <frenk> list
[09:41] <EventHandler> Having problem with sounds when logging out then logging in, am I the only one experience this?
[09:42] <xjiujiu> hi
[09:42] <xjiujiu> HI
[09:42] <xjiujiu> Can I edit the apt initlization file ?
[09:43] <blazemore> what do you mean by that xjiujiu
[09:43] <xjiujiu> E: The package adobereader-chs:i386 needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[09:44] <blazemore> How did you install it in the first place? Have you tried "sudo apt-get -f install"
[09:44] <xjiujiu> So.
[09:45] <xjiujiu> I want to edit the apt init step to delete the installing adobereader-chs:i386 task.
[09:45] <blazemore> Try synaptic
[09:46] <MacroMan> I'm trying to run: 'i=wc -l < update.sql' from a bash script but I'm getting the error: 'line 2: -l: command not found'. How can I call the command?
[09:47] <frenk> scusate ciao a tutti
[09:47] <frenk> lista
[09:47] <llutz> MacroMan: i=$(wc -l < update.sql)
[09:48] <MacroMan> llutz, Thanks
[09:49] <rainbowwarrior2> hello
[09:51] <omidvaramdigekas> hello
[09:51] <surferboy> anyone know anything about vsftpd?
[09:52] <omidvaramdigekas> very secure ftp
[09:52] <Desproges> Hi, I'm looking for a screen ruler (to measure rectangle mainly). Can anyone advise me here ?
[09:54] <blazemore> Desproges: Have you tried screenruler, in the repositories?
[09:54] <blazemore> Desproges: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man1/screenruler.1.html
[09:54] <dixeet> hello
[09:54] <blazemore> Hello, dixeet
[09:54] <Desproges> yes blazemore , screenrule has only vertical or horizontal, but not both.
[09:55] <dixeet> what's up?
[09:55] <Desproges> I'm looking for something like http://cropper.codeplex.com/
[09:56] <blazemore> Desproges: You could maybe try installing something like this [http://www.download32.com/screen-ruler-2d-i150222.html] through Wine
[09:56] <blazemore> Or take a screenshot and use the Gimp?
[10:01] <X-722> Anyone here ever use backbox?
[10:03] <blazemore> No, but I see they have a new release
[10:03] <X-722> Yep, just grabbed the iso. Was wondering if they update from the same repos as Ubuntu
[10:03] <tintin> Hello?
[10:03] <tintin> Which irc client do you use?
[10:03] <blazemore> X-722: I believe they probably do
[10:03] <tintin> client=software
[10:03] <blazemore> tintin: I use irssi
[10:04] <tintin> blazemore: Why?
[10:04] <X-722> Whereas doing that on BackTrack = b0rked system
[10:04] <blazemore> erm... because I like it?
[10:04] <blazemore> It suits my workflow
[10:04] <tintin> blazemore: Why do you like it?
[10:04] <fairuz> tintin: pidgin
[10:04] <doomlord> do display-link USB monitors work with linux
[10:04] <doomlord> (specifically, with ubuntu)
[10:05] <blazemore> I run it on a server through screen. I am always idling in channels, and screen automatically sets me as /away when I close the window. I recieve messages while I'm away and irssi automatically gives me them on my return, like an answering machine
[10:05] <blazemore> It also has features like custom hilights and neat keyboard shortcuts
[10:05] <tintin> fairuz: pidgin is not good for chat, some say
[10:05] <fairuz> tintin: Why?
[10:05] <blazemore> Plus, I've invested a lot of time into setting it up right, and I can access my client from anywhere with an Internet connection. I can't even remember my Freenode password any more. But this is offtopic really. Pidgin is a terrible IRC client
[10:07] <tintin> Do you use kde on ubuntu?
[10:08] <blazemore> Who?
[10:08] <blazemore> I don't, I use Openbox on Debian
[10:08] <tintin> fairuz: Does pidgin have upper key to get the last message?
[10:08] <fairuz> tintin: No
[10:08] <X-722> Wow, I thought my questionw as OT.  :P
[10:08] <X-722> At least Backbox is somewhat Ubuntu related.  :P
[10:09] <tintin> fairuz: Then how is it good?
[10:09] <fairuz> tintin: So good for you is just comparing that specific feature? I'm not saying pidgin is good. You asked what client I use, and I use pidgin.
[10:10] <SixtyFold> i also use pidgin
[10:10] <X-722> I use Chatzilla because I'm lazy.  :P
[10:10] <SixtyFold> customization in pidgin is why i use it
[10:11] <tintin> SixtyFold: What do you customize in pidgin?
[10:11] <SixtyFold> theme, history, plugins, time/date format, normal things like font, colour scheme, etc
[10:11] <fairuz> tintin: I use several other chat in pidgin. e.g facebook chat.
[10:12] <SixtyFold> it's more customizeable than any other program that can do as much as it that i know of
[10:12] <osse> I have the following script in /etc/update-motd.d/: http://sprunge.us/NVUS. When I run it manually it works as excepted, but when I log in the 'column ...' command produces no output but reports no errors. Echoing the array itself produces output. I think the array contains something that makes column fail because when I do echo "foo" | column -t -s $'\t' I get output, but if I do { echo ${(F)commits[@]};
[10:12] <osse> echo foo; } | column -t -s $'\t' I get no output, not even "foo". What can be going on here?
[10:18] <its04> hi
[10:18] <MonkeyDust> osse  better ask in #bash
[10:19] <jrib> MonkeyDust: well #zsh anyway :)
[10:19] <jrib> osse: it could be some environment issue
[10:20] <jrib> osse: can you explain the $ in $'\t'?
[10:20] <jrib> osse: never mind
[10:23] <jrib> osse: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1314834/ this works fine for me
[10:25] <osse> jrib: same here :/
[10:25] <osse> i.e. it works
[10:27] <jrib> osse: if you run the script as root manually, does it work ok?  Do a sudo -i and execute it
[10:29] <osse> jrib: yes, it works as expected when I log in as root with 'sudo -i'
[10:30] <osse> jrib: it is curious though, the header that I print in bold is rendered in bold when I run the script manually, but it appears in regular text when I log in.
[10:31] <frenk> ciao a tutti
[10:31] <tsquar3d> Hey.. can someone tell me if there is a way to access a remote host without port forwarding? I know there are some websites that do this for mac/win, but I need a lin solution.
[10:32] <jrib> osse: try adding "exec 2>&1".  update-motd seems to only grab stdout so you won't see stderr
[10:32] <MonkeyDust> !it
[10:34] <rictec> hello can someone help me get a ati X1400 to work on 12.10?
[10:34] <Xix> how can I recover a file I just deleted?
[10:34] <Xix> I know it's full path and name
[10:35] <jrib> osse: also maybe throw in "set -x"
[10:35] <hateball> !undelete | Xix
[10:36] <ahhughes> howdy, after upgrading my mythbuntu from 11.04 to 11.10 it now won't boot. The only error I get is that it fails to mount (the non-boot 2ndry) drive. AFAIK this should not be  a terminal issue... however if I 'Ignore' or 'Skip' (whatever the difference is I dont know) the screen goes black, and ever 10 seconds or so some green dots flash and dissapear. But... what is the recommended course of action to fix terminal boot failure like thi
[10:36] <ahhughes> s? Where do I start?
[10:37] <Dreaman> Why not support a fglrx-legacy in ubuntu 12.10
[10:38] <Xix> hateball: I tried foremost but it didn't recover anything
[10:38] <rictec> this was a big mistake upgrading to 12.10
[10:39] <Xix> I called it as (file I lost is "/path/to/file.phtml"): sudo scalpel /path/to/ -o /opt/recover-output/
[10:40] <MonkeyDust> !ati > rictec start here
[10:40] <PatrickDickey> Dreaman, ATI will tell you that they've reached the maximum capabilities of the older cards. You can install the legacy drivers though.
[10:41] <Dreaman> free i ok but burn in my card :)
[10:42] <Dreaman> Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 42.0C mobo: N/A gpu: 90.5
[10:42] <Dreaman> :)
[10:42] <PatrickDickey> Which card do you have?
[10:42] <Dreaman> HD 4670 RADEON
[10:42] <Xix> sorry, I actually called it as (file I lost is "/path/to/file.phtml"): sudo foremost -i /path/to/ -o /opt/recover-output/
[10:42] <PatrickDickey> http://www.unixmen.com/ubuntu-12-10-and-amd-catalyst-problem-solved/ you can look at this Dreaman. It talks about the legacy drivers.
[10:44] <mbeche> where at
[10:47] <ahhughes> argh. as soon as I boot into recovery mode the usb driver must crash because the keyboard no longer works :'(
[10:47] <ahhughes> or the video output freezes
[10:50] <rictec> aghhh i did almost everything in there...
[10:50] <tsquar3d> Hey.. can someone tell me if there is a way to access a remote host without port forwarding? I know there are some websites that do this for mac/win, but I need a lin solution.
[10:51] <BluesKaj> hey all
[10:51] <Myx0x3> is there a smart way to see what IP an linux computer has? my mom and dad want to have an computer in Thailand, and i want to be able to SSH that computer in case of anything..
[10:52] <pikapoo> Hi, BluesKaj :)
[10:52] <dr_willis> some apps do that tsquar3d  like teamviewer, and so on. but not ever seen a general way for an arbitary app.
[10:52] <BluesKaj> hi pikapoo
[10:52] <Myx0x3> i dont want my mom and dad to use the terminal each time :P
[10:52] <dr_willis> Myx0x3:  use one of those dynamic ip sites like dyndns or so on.
[10:53] <pikapoo> Myx0x3: Look into http://www.dyn.com/dns
[10:53] <dr_willis> Myx0x3:  or a widgit on their desktop. or a cron job to send you email/msgs ;)
[10:53] <tsquar3d> Okay, thanks dr_willis. I need to be able to access my work computer from home, but there is no way that they will allow port forwarding.
[10:53] <rictec> aticonfig: No supported adapters detected ..now what?
[10:53] <pikapoo> tsquar3d: What type of access do you need? SSH?
[10:53] <Myx0x3> dr_willis: yeah, thats pretty cool, a script that stores the ip, and if it changes it mailes me the new one
[10:54] <dr_willis> tsquar3d:  some of those remote   desktop tools i thought used port 80
[10:54] <dr_willis> Myx0x3:  i just use my free dyndns  servicee. ;) but i dont they got a free version any more.
[10:55] <tsquar3d> It really does not matter if it's FTP or ssh.... whatever I can use to transfer files back and forth.
[10:55] <tsquar3d> :-)
[10:55] <Myx0x3> dr_willis: what i can tell there is no free serivice..
[10:55] <tsquar3d> But I know ssh requires port forwarding.
[10:55] <joles> I'm trying to transfer files with scp.. but what am I doing wron?? sudo scp -r joel@ip-where-files-are-transfered-from:/home/joel/google_projects/ -P 44444 cc@ip-where-files-are-transfered-to:/home/cc/
[10:55] <joles> It's still trying to connect on port 22
[10:55] <tsquar3d> Team viewer is free for personal use. :-/
[10:55] <pikapoo> no-ip.com still has free accounts :)
[10:55] <dr_willis> my dyndns is free still i guess because i was grandfathered in
[10:56] <dr_willis> i only use it for irc/znc
[10:57] <Myx0x3> ill take a look after the lunch.. realy need to eat :D
[10:57] <synapsxyz> ubuntu is not connecting to internet and when I do ifconfig i don't see eth0 . please help
[10:58] <Dreaman> Graphics:  Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RV730XT [Radeon HD 4670]
[10:58] <Dreaman>            X.Org: 1.12.3 drivers: ati,fglrx (unloaded: fbdev,vesa,radeon) Resolution: 1920x1080@60.0hz
[10:58] <Dreaman> work
[10:58] <Dreaman> :)
[10:59] <FreddyAdduuu> Hello, I have a Asus M5A78L-M motherboard with Radeon 3000 grpahics integrated. Now I have upgraded to Ubuntu 12.10 my graphic card is not supported. What card should I buy  for best performance (and future support) with Ubuntu?
[10:59] <opalepatrick> what happened to the memory/store functions in gcalctool? is it a bug, or a silly design change?
[11:00] <NativeAngels> Hello has anyone managed to install Ubuntu on a Poweredge 1500sc ?
[11:03] <synapsxyz> hey any1 know how to sort this no internet on ubuntu sorry i can't think of any specifics to give right now
[11:03] <opalepatrick> How do you know it is not supported FreddyAdduuu?
[11:04] <FreddyAdduuu> it is supported, but I have all kinds of problems
[11:04] <rictec> so fglrxinfo gives me this: X Error of failed request:  BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation)
[11:04] <FreddyAdduuu> the propieteray drivers will not install
[11:04] <PatrickDickey> FreddyAdduuu: Here's a link that might help you to get your card working http://www.unixmen.com/ubuntu-12-10-and-amd-catalyst-problem-solved/
[11:04] <opalepatrick> ah ok
[11:04] <FreddyAdduuu> the mesa drivers are not performing
[11:04] <joles> Something is really strange iwht my server.. I tried google the scenario but can't find anything.. all files I download are 0 bytes.. does anyone reckognize the scenario? tried with wget and transfer files over sftp.. they show as 0 bytes!
[11:05] <zurek> what do u think about gluster?
[11:05] <opalepatrick> and this FreddyAdduuu - http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/catalog/ - although they dont appear to be referring to 12.10 stuff yet
[11:05] <FreddyAdduuu> PatrickDickey: tried, but did not work for me
[11:05] <blazemore> joles: Please paste the output of running "df -h" into http://paste.ubuntu.com and then copy and paste the resulting URL here
[11:05] <hateball> joles: Not run out of disk perhaps?
[11:06] <ix_> I've installed Chrome and it seems that I have the repository for it, but it's not in /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:06] <ix_> where is the repo then?
[11:06] <zurek> i want data syncro via slow vpn
[11:06] <FreddyAdduuu> opalepatrick: thanks, is there any advice you can give? Should I buy nvidia or ATI?
[11:06] <joles> blazemore: hateball: totally out of disc space.. hmm strange!!
[11:06] <PatrickDickey> FreddyAdduuu: which option on their site did you try? The third option actually replaces the XOrg drivers with some that should work.
[11:06] <blazemore> ix_: in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[11:06] <FreddyAdduuu> My experience with ATI is not so great
[11:06] <opalepatrick> ATI
[11:06] <Dreaman> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:makson96/fglrx
[11:06] <Dreaman> sudo apt-get update
[11:06] <Dreaman> sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:06] <Dreaman> sudo apt-get install fglrx-legacy
[11:06] <opalepatrick> lol
[11:06] <FloodBot1> Dreaman: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:06] <artem> привет
[11:06] <Dreaman> i use thise and work
[11:06] <ix_> blazemore, true, thank you
[11:07] <PatrickDickey> opalepatrick: which ATI Card do you recommend?
[11:07] <opalepatrick> nvidia isnt brill either, but I am no expert FreddyAdduuu. I just use nvidia :-0
[11:08] <opalepatrick> I dont PatrickDickey, but I would now check the certified hardware list before I did buy something
[11:08] <PatrickDickey> Good point.
[11:08] <FreddyAdduuu> thank you for the list
[11:09] <opalepatrick> np
[11:09] <FreddyAdduuu> and I used the third option from the other site
[11:09] <Dragonster82> Hey guys, my microphone volume settings keep resetting. Even after trying out alsamixer, it still resets, can anyone help?
[11:09] <FreddyAdduuu> that resulted in boot direct in the terminal
[11:10] <FreddyAdduuu> is there a graphic card which has firefox gpu accelerated windows?
[11:10] <rictec> i m just giving up soon my ati mobile x1400 refuses to be detected
[11:10]  * PatrickDickey wonders how soon that certification catalog will be updated to 12.10
[11:12] <GangBang> siema\
[11:13] <synapsxyz> when i do ifconfig i don't see eth0 but lo. Is my NIC bad .
[11:13] <blackshirt> synapsxyz: what is your nic card chipset ??
[11:13] <marcus> any1 know how to fix internet (NAT settings) on virtualbox windows 7 guest?
[11:14] <synapsxyz> @blackshirt realtek
[11:14] <blackshirt> synapsxyz: more detail please
[11:14] <blackshirt> synapsxy: its mine, $ lspci -v | grep Ethernet
[11:14] <blackshirt> 01:04.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
[11:16] <synapsxyz> @blackshirt I knew it was realtek , lspci gives it as RT8139
[11:16] <PatrickDickey> marcus, you'll be better off asking that in #vbox not here.
[11:17] <blackshirt> synapsxyz: exactly same with mine ?
[11:17] <synapsxyz> lspci shows my ethernet controller I guess no problem with my card I guess, then it must be settings
[11:17] <FreddyAdduuu> Can anyone advice a Radeon 6450 for Ubuntu 12.10?
[11:17] <synapsxyz> the thing is everything was fine until a few hours ago
[11:18] <PatrickDickey> synapsxyz: Is it on the computer that you're currently on? (probably isn't, but worth asking anyhow).
[11:18] <blackshirt> synapsxyz: try with ifconfig eth0 up
[11:18] <synapsxyz> @PatrickDickey :D hehe nice 1
[11:18] <Dragonster82> Hey guys, my microphone volume settings keep resetting. Even after trying out alsamixer, it still resets, can anyone help?
[11:19] <blackshirt> synapsxyz: or if you use dhcp for your eth0m try dhclient eth0
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> Dragonster82: try:  killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*     wait 10 seconds then try some sounds
[11:20] <CrazyGangster> Hello ppl, any1 knowns any VNC client with file transfer?
[11:20] <synapsxyz> @blackshirt ifconfig eth0 up gives me SIOCSIFFLAGS:Invalid argument has already tried that
[11:21] <blackshirt> synapsxyz: with sudo
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> CrazyGangster: do you have openssh-server installed on the server too?
[11:21] <synapsxyz> yep dude with sudo
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> blackshirt: I was gonna say :)
[11:22] <blackshirt> ActionParsnip: :-D
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> CrazyGangster: seems freenx does it
[11:23] <doubi> Hello. Bizarre problem with my 12.04 system: on Saturday it stopped recognising our wireless SSID. Still sees scores of neighbours' networks, and other devices (Win7, 10.04 box, Android phone) see and connect to the network fine.
[11:23] <osse> jrib: I think I found a problem. The author name is the one that messes with column. If I simply put an 'Ø' in the format string I get no output :/
[11:23] <doubi> I've tried apt-get purge'ing network-manager-gnome and reinstalling, to no effect
[11:23] <synapsxyz> @blackshirt Err r r r DHCP will I have to open tenenbaum for that
[11:24] <CrazyGangster> @ActionParsnip: i will try, thanks
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> CrazyGangster: x11vnc also supports it. What are you doing on the remote system via VNC? There may be a sleeker solution
[11:24] <doubi> Anyone have any ideas why a certain network would be invisible to Ubuntu 12.04?
[11:24] <einonm> doubi: what happens if you select network icon->edit connections->wireless? Does the SSID show up there?
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> doubi: hidden SSID  is one
[11:24] <blazemore> doubi: Perhaps if it's on a wireless channel 12 or 13, and your NIC is only set to use channels 1-11...?
[11:24] <blazemore> doubi: But I don't know if that would be an issue
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> doubi: if you scan for networks, do you see lots of networks on the same channel?
[11:25] <blackshirt> synapsxyz: output of lsmod | grep 8139
[11:25] <blackshirt> is your kernel module has been loaded ?
[11:25] <blazemore> Who's having a problem with r8169? I know how to fix it
[11:26] <doubi> einonm: It did, but that's just a list of connections that've been used or attempted before, right? One piece of advice I read somewhere suggested cleaning that list, so I deleted our network ("wardog" - was here when I moved in :p) from that list. So no, doesn't appear in Network Connections -> Wireless anymore
[11:26] <blackshirt> blazemore: synapsxyz :D
[11:27] <blazemore> synapsxyz: You have a NIC which is being incorrectly identified as using the r8168 module, and this is resulting in poor performance and many dropped frames?
[11:27] <doubi> ActionParsnip: It was never hidden before, used it with no problems up until Saturday. I've asked the housemate in charge and nothing's been done to it (doubt he'd know how to hide it, even if he had the inclination :)
[11:27] <einonm> doubi: ok, great :)
[11:27] <Onixs> whats the fix
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> Onixs: to what?
[11:28] <Onixs> thats for blazemore
[11:28] <synapsxyz> @blackshirt 8139cp 24704 0
[11:28] <doubi> blazemore: Don't know about the channels, but as I said to ActionParsnip, definitely nothing's changed with the network and as far as I know nothing's changed with my hardware, and prior to Saturday I've been using it happily for ~3 months
[11:28] <blazemore> wget http://r8168.googlecode.com/files/r8168-8.032.00.tar.bz2; tar xvf r8168-8.032.00.tar.bz2; cd r8168-8.032.00; sudo sh autorun.sh
[11:28] <einonm> doubi: How about, on the command line : 'sudo iwlist scan', and pastebinning the output?
[11:28] <blazemore> Sorry that's for synapsxyz and Onixs , not doubi
[11:28] <synapsxyz> @blackshirt 8139too 27648 0
[11:29] <doubi> The only thing I did on Saturday actually was create a new user account - can't imagine how that would interfere but will just go delete it
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> doubi: if you run:  sudo iwlist scan | egrep -i 'channel|ssid'     are there lots of networks on the same channel?
[11:29] <doubi> einonm: Ok, will do.
[11:29] <synapsxyz> mii 6400 2 8139cp,8139too
[11:29] <CrazyGangster> @ActionParsnip: i just want to transfer files to my Windows PC via VNC without setup other software but more suggestions are welcome :)
[11:29] <blackshirt> synapsxyz: thats same with mine
[11:30] <rictec> well i cant find a working solution to this ati x1400 problem
[11:30] <synapsxyz> @blackshirt tis ting was working fine a few hours ago and ever since i don't know what happened
[11:31] <blackshirt> synapsxyz: are you working on desktop system or server system ?
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> CrazyGangster: you can access the drives as windows (badly designed) shares the 'C drive' by default in a hidden share
[11:32] <rhin0> trying to get xmodmap to run a program when a key is pressed (is that possible?)
[11:32] <synapsxyz> desktop don't get angry it ubuntu 8.04 LTS . Sorry I can't upgrade If wan't to upgrade I should buy a new1
[11:33] <doubi> ActionParsnip: Channel 1's a bit crowded (~4 networks?) but our's appears to be the only network on channel 12
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> CrazyGangster: it also shares %WINDIR%/system32
[11:33] <blackshirt> synapsxyz: 8.04 LTS ??? that was too old :D
[11:33] <vith> anyone know why i see duplicate icmp ping requests at the exact same time in wireshark when i ping a target on ubuntu, but only one request at a time on windows?
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> synapsxyz: is it desktop hardy?
[11:34] <synapsxyz> yep
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> synapsxyz: then its EOL
[11:34] <MonkeyDust> vith  there's also ##networking
[11:34] <vith> MonkeyDust: thanks, i'll try there next
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> CrazyGangster: you can use nautilus to connect to these hidden shares and transfer data with samba. Personally I think its a security flaw in WIndows but Microsoft seem to think it's a good idea
[11:35] <synapsxyz> @blackshirt , ActionParsnip it really  works fine
[11:35] <doubi> einonm: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1314944/  This was run on the 10.04 system I'm using right now, which is seeing the SSID & connecting fine
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> synapsxyz: yes it will work, but it is in no way supported here or anywhere else
[11:36] <CrazyGangster> @ActionParsnip: yes is true but just when i'm in the same network right?
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> synapsxyz: it will run as long as youo have it installed but you will get no updates and no help in the normal Ubuntu channels
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> CrazyGangster: as long as you have a logical connection, you can access it
[11:36] <doubi> einonm: When run on the 12.04 system with the problem, a few more networks are shown (newer system, better wifi reception?) but not the one I'm looking for
[11:36] <Wiz_KeeD> hey guys
[11:36] <apocalyptiq> hi! I spilled my keyboard with coffee, i've cleaned it, but "x" key doesnt work - how can I set in Ubuntu a shortcut for that letter? For example: "'c' + ALT = 'x'"?
[11:36] <Wiz_KeeD> is it wrong to do zip archive.zip folder -r
[11:36] <Wiz_KeeD> ?
[11:36] <synapsxyz> yeah i know dat ..
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> synapsxyz: so why ask for support, when there is none?
[11:37] <apocalyptiq> is there some configuration file in ubuntu, for custom keyboard shortcuts?
[11:37] <JasonC_> Is there a legal way of installing windows 8 on ubuntu?, wine doesnt  seem to support the update assisstant
[11:37] <einonm> doubi: Ok, can you try on the 12.04 machine: 'sudo iwlist channel'?
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> apocalyptiq: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3177953/how-to-bind-key-to-another-key-in-ubuntu
[11:38] <Wiz_KeeD> halp?
[11:38] <apocalyptiq> ActionParsnip, thanks!
[11:38] <synapsxyz> @Actionparsnip these things like network manager are pretty much the same for every release so it relly dosen't matter if its EOL or not
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> Wiz_KeeD: sounds fine to me (checked man page)
[11:39] <JasonC_> bump :P "<JasonC_> Is there a legal way of installing windows 8 on ubuntu?, wine doesnt  seem to support the update assisstant"
[11:39] <Wiz_KeeD> because i've made two zips like that ActionParsnip, placed them in dropbox, wait for sync the nuse a link to download on another box with wget, the zips get downloaded but i get this error http://askubuntu.com/questions/54904/unzip-error-end-of-central-directory-signature-not-found
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> synapsxyz: that is irrelevant, the release you are using is no longer support on the desktop. This moots everything
[11:40] <synapsxyz> @ActionParsnip Ah legally yes ...otherwise NO
[11:40] <DJones> !vbox | JasonC_ I don't use Windows, but you could try installing Virtualbox and then installing Win 8 within that, these links may help
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> synapsxyz: the fact it is EOL is important. imagine calling Microsoft for Windows 2000 support. The network connectivitity is near identical to XP. But they still won't support you as Windows 2000 desktop is dead
[11:40] <doubi> einonm: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1314948/  Eh, looks like some weirdness there - the 12.04 machine is currently sharing the wifi net connection on the 10.04 machine via ethernet (:
[11:41] <synapsxyz> @ActionParsnip see you said it .....because this ain't windows
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> synapsxyz: its the same support model
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> synapsxyz: the release you are using is dead, so not supported
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> synapsxyz: its literally that clean cut. There is no "oh the app is the same so it's ok" grey area. Hardy is dead. No support
[11:43] <einonm> doubi: blazemore was right earlier, your wifi device doesn't support channel 12 - so you'll have to change your wireless access point to use a different channel
[11:43] <JasonC_> @ubottu, i was thinking of that but its not legal :P, I have virtualbox and may just install pirated windows 7 into virtualbox and dl through there but i might not be able to do it through virtualbox so im doubtful if i should do it
[11:43] <blazemore> einonm: I have wifi spidey-sense
[11:43] <blazemore> JasonC_: ubottu is a bot...
[11:43] <Wiz_KeeD> any ideeas ActionParsnip ?
[11:43] <JasonC_> lol
[11:43] <JasonC_> woops
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> doubi: if you install wicd and remove network manager then reboot. You can tell wicd to use eth1 as the wifi device and it may help
[11:44] <JasonC_> well can anyone else help me? <JasonC_> Is there a legal way of installing windows 8 on ubuntu?, wine doesnt  seem to support the update assisstant
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> Wiz_KeeD: is the file owned by your user?
[11:44] <jackw> who is on 12.10? how is it?
[11:44] <CrazyGangster> @ActionParsnip: now i can see Windows shared folder because i'm directly connected via wireless to my Windows Machine but when i connect to the router wireless, ubuntu cant see the shared folder, i think is something about some firewall configs on the router...
[11:44] <einonm> blazemore: lol. Cool. So can you tell if it's because the hardware doesn't support it - or its a regulatory domain thing? :D
[11:44] <DJJeff> install Windows 8 using VMWare or VirtualBox
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> jackw: I'm on 13.04 ;). I was on 12.10 and its fine
[11:45] <blazemore> einonm: It's probably the latter, but IDK how you'd change it
[11:45] <synapsxyz> @ActionParsnip hey man chill ..I get it , I know there is no use debatin (wasting time). I was just trying out every option. D.O.A I ain't gonna quit support or no support I will figure this out . Any was thanks for your concern
[11:45] <jackw> i am currently in 11.04 and i need to upgrade which one should i go ?
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> CrazyGangster: as long as you can ping the system you should be able to access the data
[11:45] <Wiz_KeeD> ActionParsnip, what do you mean?
[11:45] <Evdb> Hello
[11:45] <Evdb> I was running Ubuntu on my MacBook Pro after a lot of struggling, then I installed an Nvidia driver and everything effed up. Now I'm back to zero. When I try to boot from USb I get busybox, what is it and what's the solution? Need Ubuntu for exams in one week D:
[11:46] <doubi> einonm, blazemore: Crazy - would a router change its channel all by itself? Not doubting the answer, just planning how I'm going to explain this to the guy upstairs when I ask to go fiddle with the router in his room :p
[11:46] <blazemore> doubi: The BT HomeHub does this - it analyses which channel has the fewest other networks on it
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> Wiz_KeeD: if you install unp, can you extract it?
[11:46] <blazemore> doubi: You're better of manually setting your wireless access point to a channel you know you can use
[11:46] <doubi> Aha! Sneeky beggar
[11:46] <Wiz_KeeD> I am in localhost, i did zip project.zip on project folder with -r, moved the zip to dropbox, used ssh on the other box to wget the archive, it downloaded it i have project.zip and when i do unzip project.zip, that comes up
[11:46] <Wiz_KeeD> what's unp? why would i need it...it never happened before this :(
[11:47] <doubi> Right enough, it was the only one on channel 12
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> Wiz_KeeD: its a one command for all archives extracter, like the GUI, you don't have to click different to extract different archives. Unp gives this abstraction in CLI
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> Wiz_KeeD: worth a go, plus its stupidly useful (I think it should be default installed)
[11:48] <Wiz_KeeD> not on this box apparently
[11:48] <einonm> blazemore: crda does the job http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man8/crda.8.html but checking on my system - [   11.518022] cfg80211: Regulatory domain changed to country: CN
[11:48] <Wiz_KeeD> still what could cause this?
[11:48] <einonm> ..china...FAIL
[11:48] <Wiz_KeeD> or should i try to make a tar instead of a zip
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> Wiz_KeeD: check that you are the owner of the file
[11:49] <CrazyGangster> @ActionParsnip: ok i will check, thanks again :)
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> Wiz_KeeD: making a tar of the zip won't change the data
[11:49] <Wiz_KeeD> since i have wget with the same user i'm trying to extract and ls -al shows owner and group my user
[11:49] <doubi> Thanks all for solving the Mystery of the Disappearing SSID :)
[11:49] <Wiz_KeeD> not of the zip, i can rearchive the file and upload it to the dropbox
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> CrazyGangster: you can access \\host\c$   and \\host\admin$ on ANY Windows PC if you have the admin password (poor security)
[11:49] <einonm> doubi: You're welcome
[11:50] <Wiz_KeeD> apparently on my local box it doesn't work either...something is wrong
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> Wiz_KeeD: you could make a tar of the initial folder, then gzip it
[11:50] <Wiz_KeeD> or should i zip using a different command...this never happened
[11:50] <doubi> Oh, one other thing (see, you give a good answer, people will just ask more questions): is there a reason I'd be unable to ssh into a remote machine just woken from hibernation?
[11:50] <doubi> Off sick today, got someone to poke my machine at the office
[11:50] <llutz> ActionParsnip: if somebody already has the admin password, this is the smallest security issue you have
[11:51] <doubi> Which must be sitting there with password dialogue up
[11:51] <einonm> doubi: maybe sshd is not running..
[11:51] <einonm> doubi...it may only be enabled when someone logs on?
[11:52] <einonm> doubi: have you tried 'nmap <IP>' ?
[11:53] <doubi> einonm: Maybe - failure looks like asking for but refusing my password. It must be sshd doing the asking, right? But, y'know, I've typed it 10 times now, I'm sure I'm not getting it wrong
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> llutz: it simply shouldn't be shared imho. Anything unecessarily available to the network is a security risk in my eyes
[11:53] <doubi> And at least one of the machine's I'm trying from should be set up for key-based login, so it's odd it asks for a password at all
[11:53] <einonm> doubi: Ah, ok. sshd is running. Are you specifying a username too?
[11:53] <doubi> >_<
[11:53] <Guest58369> Hi I have a new channel and I need help
[11:53] <doubi> Ok, I'll go now....... :p
[11:54] <einonm> doubi: Its using your local username, perhaps...lol
[11:54] <doubi> Thanks einonm!
[11:54] <einonm> np
[11:54] <CrazyGangster> @ActionParsnip: cool :D
[11:54] <Wiz_KeeD> ActionParsnip, it's because of Dropbox
[11:54] <Guest58369> #tata
[11:54] <Guest58369> #tata
[11:56] <DJones> Guest58369: If you need help setting your channel up, please ask in #freenode thats the network help channel
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> Wiz_KeeD: weird
[11:58] <Wiz_KeeD> if i zip it like that and then unzip it then it's perfect, if i zip it, move it to dropbox, then download it it doesn't work
[11:58] <CrazyGangster> one more question, there is any1 file manager that shows the checksun of all files?
[11:58] <llutz> Wiz_KeeD: check md5sum of the zip before/after sending/loading to/from dropbox
[11:59] <Guest45526> hi everyone!
[12:01] <shwaiil> hi
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> Wiz_KeeD: try using a differnet compression
[12:01] <Wiz_KeeD> why would it be because of that?
[12:01] <Wiz_KeeD> any suggestions ActionParsnip ?
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> Wiz_KeeD: tar.gz
[12:01] <Wiz_KeeD> i really want  my archive to be intact at the end
[12:01] <Wiz_KeeD> how do i do that?
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> CrazyGangster: you can use nautilus-scripts and add the feature there
[12:02] <shwaiil> Q: I've installed 12.10 and Compiz lost most of the fx. I'm not right now home, so I don't have access to my machine, but I'm just wondering if compiz is available for 12.10 ? Do I need to install something else ?  Thanks!
[12:02] <shwaiil> for example, the 3d desktop is not available and stuff like that
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> Wiz_KeeD: tar czf filename.tar.gz folder
[12:03] <MonkeyDust> shwaiil  you may need ccsm, compiz-config
[12:03] <Onixs> Wiz_KeeD: clear browser's cache. it might be downloading from a previous cache
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> shwaiil: compiz is the default WM in 12.10
[12:03] <Wiz_KeeD> i'm downloading using wget Onixs
[12:03] <shwaiil> MonkeyDust: tks for looking, I've got that installed
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> shwaiil: its already installed
[12:03] <shwaiil> ActionParsnip: strange, when I open the "compiz panel manage" or whatever it's called, I really don't have the 3d stuff, window wobble and stuff
[12:04] <shwaiil> *I'm not home atm but... I was just wondering
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> shwaiil: then install extra plugins, there are some packages with addons that aren't installed by defaulr
[12:05] <loadid_> what would you need Onixs for Wiz_KeeD?
[12:05] <Wiz_KeeD> huh?
[12:05] <loadid_> or what would you use it for?
[12:05] <shwaiil> ActionParsnip: ok i'll do that later.That's problem the reason then right ? Do you remember if yours came with the 3d stuff and when you installed 12.10 ?
[12:05] <CrazyGangster> @ActionParsnip: ok
[12:05] <MonkeyDust> what's onixs?
[12:06] <rhin0> anyone know how to get xmodmap to get a key to run a command .. I understand how to get it to map a key to another key .. I want a key to run a script
[12:06] <llutz>  /whois onixs not "what is"
[12:06] <Onixs> its me
[12:06] <jackw> hi all
[12:06] <Onixs> lol
[12:06] <loadid_> IC... onixs.biz =  ultra low latency Certified SDKs for Direct Market Access (DMA): FIX Engine, FIX/FAST Decoder, Market Data Handlers, Order Execution, Trade Capture, Drop Copy, and Reporting solutions.
[12:06] <jackw> i want to play some mp3 but i also want to skip the intro and end so what should id do ?
[12:07] <loadid_> i think i can do all that stuff with my Ti though
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> shwaiil: I use Lubuntu, no Unity or compiz here
[12:07] <shwaiil> ok
[12:07] <shwaiil> tks
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> shwaiil: not a huge fan of either
[12:08] <shwaiil> ok thanks :)
[12:08] <brontosaurusrex> jackw: a. cut out the intros manually (audacity perhaps), b. cut the intros automagically, some sort of sox/ffmpeg/mplayer script
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> Wiz_KeeD: does tar.gz work ok?
[12:08] <Wiz_KeeD> trying now, it's SO strange this never happened before
[12:09] <Wiz_KeeD> to extract ActionParsnip?
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> Wiz_KeeD: unp filename.tar.gz     or:   tar zxvf filename.tar.gz
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> Wiz_KeeD: if you had unp installed, you wouldn't have to ask, its the same command for ALL archives
[12:10] <Wiz_KeeD> gzip: stdin: not in gzip format tar: Child returned status 1 tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[12:10] <Wiz_KeeD> pfff
[12:10] <Wiz_KeeD> something is seriously wack here..
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> Wiz_KeeD: try unp :)
[12:10] <loadid_> i've tried to add files to an archive before, into a specific folder in the archive... and it always adds the file to the end, never into the specific folder.  Any ideas how I move the file into the folder?
[12:10] <Wiz_KeeD> this shouldn't happen...
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> Wiz_KeeD: well....yeah
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> Wiz_KeeD: could try downloading it with curl instead of wget
[12:12] <Wiz_KeeD> curl is not just a php plugin? :) hah
[12:12] <Wiz_KeeD> same thing ActionParsnip
[12:12] <allu3> Anyone got experience or knowledge on setting up dhcpd and PXE ? i'd need some help on those.
[12:14] <Evdb> I was running Ubuntu on my MacBook Pro after a lot of struggling, then I installed an Nvidia driver and everything effed up. Now I'm back to zero. When I try to boot from USb I get busybox, what is it and what's the solution? Need Ubuntu for exams in one week D:
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> Wiz_KeeD: weird, if you upload the folder as is, then download that, is it ok?
[12:14] <PatrickDickey> allu3: I would think that you want a static IP for the pxe server--not dhcp. That way you can reach it consistently. The only time I've worked with it, was on an Amahi Home Server.
[12:14] <Wiz_KeeD> can't download a whole folder from Dropbox ActionParsnip
[12:14] <Wiz_KeeD> that's why i zip it :)
[12:15] <allu3> PatrickDickey: i have old fujuitsu life book and its PXE doesn't give me any options just searches for dhcp
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> Wiz_KeeD: or try just tarring the folder and transfer that
[12:15] <Wiz_KeeD> i did that
[12:15] <Wiz_KeeD> as you suggested
[12:15] <Wiz_KeeD> untarring doesn't work
[12:15] <Onixs> Wiz_KeeD: try downloading a non compressed file
[12:15] <PatrickDickey> allu3 do you have a server somewhere on your network? A pxe server, I mean.
[12:15] <Wiz_KeeD> and do what with it?
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> Wiz_KeeD: no, I suggested tar.gz  not ust tar. There is a difference
[12:15] <Onixs> and compare its md5
[12:15] <Wiz_KeeD> hah, how do i compare md5?
[12:16] <Wiz_KeeD> how can i do that now with the zipfile?
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | Wiz_KeeD
[12:16] <allu3> PatrickDickey: i have eeepc with ubuntu 12.10, one ethernet cable and the old life book, i'm trying to setup the pxe server on the eeepc with the dhcpd so i could install ubuntu 10.04 on it
[12:16] <allu3> PatrickDickey: i don't have any CD's available and the life book doesn't support usb boot
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> Wiz_KeeD: instead of asking simple questions like that, try searching a bit. The Internet has a world of data
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> Evdb: sounds like Grub isn't booting the OS. I suggest you chroot the installed OS from live USB and reinstate grub etc
[12:16] <PatrickDickey> allu3: So your actual question is how do you set up a PXE server on ubuntu?
[12:17] <surferboy> anyone know how to release email messages that have been caught by amavis?
[12:17] <Wiz_KeeD> thought it was a simple command
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> Wiz_KeeD: it is
[12:17] <Evdb> ActionParsnip could you eplain that a bit more? I don't really understand what you mean :p
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> Evdb: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/live-usb-sticking-grub-2-video   pretyped as i knew you'd ask
[12:17] <Wiz_KeeD> doesn't look like it
[12:17] <Evdb> ActionParsnip hahaha thanks mate :) I'll keep you updated
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> Wiz_KeeD: md5sum filename     not simple enough
[12:17] <allu3> PatrickDickey: um i mean i could install the ubuntu 10.04 on the lifebook via PXE, and yes, but afaik for PXE i also need the working dhcpd, and i think i'ce managed to set up everything else for the PXE server except i can't get lifebook to find the dhcpd
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> Wiz_KeeD: its in the link ubottu gave, all you have to do is read
[12:17] <Wiz_KeeD> hah the article in the post was for a different problem
[12:18] <surferboy> anyone know how to release email messages that have been caught by amavis?
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> Wiz_KeeD: no, it shows how to MD5 sum a file, the actual file is irrelevant
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> Wiz_KeeD: think about it.....Just because a guide isn't EXACTLY for your issue doesn't mean it is of zero value
[12:18] <Wiz_KeeD> it's a totally different md6 sum
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> Wiz_KeeD: try just tarring the folder, see how that goes
[12:19] <surferboy> you people suck
[12:19] <Wiz_KeeD> :)
[12:19] <PatrickDickey> allu3: which lifebook model do you have?
[12:19] <PatrickDickey> surferboy: why's that?
[12:19] <surferboy> because I said so
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> surferboy: you wait 60 seconds and then get a pathetic attitude. yah great way to get support
[12:20] <bazhang> !attitude | surferboy
[12:20] <surferboy> total rubbish
[12:20] <bazhang> surferboy, thats enough
[12:20] <PatrickDickey> surferboy, what was your original question. Sorry, but I have two windows open, one of which has four tabs open.
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> surferboy: and still with the attitude. I'm sure people want to help you...
[12:20] <allu3> PatrickDickey: Lifebook C series FPC05041BP
[12:20] <rictec> can someone please tell me how the hell i get the ati x1400 to work?
[12:20] <Evdb> Hmm ActionParsnip I can't even get in live Ubuntu without installing
[12:21] <PatrickDickey> allu3: this might help you out. I only started browsing it though. http://igor.chudov.com/projects/PXE-Netinstall-Of-Ubuntu/
[12:21] <rictec> and fglrx-legacy cant find it also
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> Evdb: you can, you can boot to the device you installed with to get an OS that runs in RAM. There is an option to 'Try Ubuntu' which you can use
[12:21] <Evdb> ActionParsnip yeah but I get 'busybox', can't boot into it
[12:22] <allu3> PatrickDickey: um i have a feeling this will lead to same as every single other tutorial, dhcpd wont work, but i'll give it a go
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> Evdb: when you boot the installation media you use, you get a busybox?
[12:22] <PatrickDickey> surferboy amavisd-release maybe?
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> Evdb: not the installed OS, the live CD or USB you installed with
[12:23] <Evdb> ActionParnsip yep, I used some special oot options (noapic and such) because I know it's needed on my MacBook, still get busybox after Ubuntu loading screen
[12:23] <surferboy> yeah
[12:23] <surferboy> trying that
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> surferboy: http://powercom.de/appeltexte/2009/01/how-to-release-banned-content.html
[12:23] <Evdb> ActionParsnip using the live USB (I removed my Linux partition + swap)
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> surferboy: source: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=amavis+release+email
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> Evdb: did you MD5 test the ISO you put on the USB stick?
[12:24] <allu3> rictec: seems you can't use fglrx with x1400 and ubuntu 12.10 or 12.04
[12:24] <Evdb> Actionparsnip yes and the hash is the right one
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> Evdb: I suggest you recreate the stick. You can use unetbootin on most OSes
[12:25] <PatrickDickey> surferboy, it also helps to know which email client you're using. For those of us who don't know anything about amavis, we're googling for answers.
[12:25] <Evdb> ActionParsnip Haven't used unetbootin, but I'll try that one then yeah
[12:25] <ploni> why when I go to download wubi.exe from the site, does it take me to download the .iso instead ?
[12:26] <surferboy> nothing to do with the email client
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> ploni: If you make a CD, you can use that to install Ubuntu via Wubi
[12:26] <surferboy> PatrickDickey, haha you don't have to google search for me
[12:26] <rictec> anyone can help with this 12.10 ati x1400 problem?
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> rictec: you may need an xorg.conf file to make the display a little better
[12:27] <ploni> ActionParsnip: but where can I download wubi.exe from then ?
[12:27] <allu3> rictec: simple stop thinking of fglrx drivers, they wont work.
[12:27] <PatrickDickey> surferboy, I don't have to, but if you asked the question, I'll do whatever I can to find the answer.
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> ploni: its on the Ubuntu CD itself
[12:27] <allu3> rictec: next option is to look for opensource radeon drivers if they aren't in use already
[12:27] <sasuke> hi guys
[12:27] <rictec> thank ActionParsnip and allu3
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> hi sasuke
[12:28] <PatrickDickey> rictec, does the computer work with Ubuntu 12.10 (in other words, do you have a working screen and just want some feature that the ATI drivers would provide)?
[12:28] <kevwilde> anyone using 12.10 with gnome shell?
[12:28] <ploni> ActionParsnip: but I don't want to burn a cd, I just want to use ubuntu with wubi the way it always was
[12:28] <rictec> well PatrickDickey using it
[12:28] <PatrickDickey> rictec: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1919320
[12:29] <rictec> PatrickDickey: it allways complains about low res at every boot
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> ploni: you can use a USB stick too
[12:29] <ploni> why did ubuntu change the way it always was :(  ?
[12:29] <PatrickDickey> ploni, someone else pointed out a few days ago, that wubi is mainly for testing. Even the developers don't recommend it for normal use.
[12:29] <ploni> i see
[12:30] <PatrickDickey> rictec, I'm not sure if this would work for you, but try booting with nomodset in the command string (right now it probably says quiet splash, add nomodset after that).
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> ploni: I have been offered the wubi.exe file. Do you want me to make a link for you?
[12:30] <allu3> PatrickDickey: can i simplu copy paste http://igor.chudov.com/projects/PXE-Netinstall-Of-Ubuntu/dhcpd.conf.txt for my dhcpd config? and do i need to worry about the "domain-name" options?
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> ploni: its not a long term solution. Wubi is a quick and dirty try before you buy
[12:31] <PatrickDickey> allu3: You could do that, but you'll have to adjust any IP Addresses and domain information to match your network.
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> ploni: http://releases.ubuntu.com//quantal/wubi.exe
[12:31] <allu3> PatrickDickey: my "network" consist of 2 computers and a wire..
[12:31]  * ActionParsnip thinks wubi should be canned
[12:32] <allu3> PatrickDickey: so i have no idea what setting i should use for it :P
[12:32] <gordonjcp> wubi is awful
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> allu3: still a network though :)
[12:32] <PatrickDickey> allu3:  like he says on the tutorial, you'll need to edit it with your dhcp settings. One second, and i'll look at the script to see what it says.
[12:33] <rictec> thanks PatrickDickey i will try that
[12:33] <allu3> PatrickDickey: but if that is the dhcpd config, how i set up that according to "my settings" on a network with no settings at all so far :P
[12:33] <scrlk> hi all, i was trying out a ubuntu alternative install (cli only) earlier to try and only install cinnamon as my de, but i failed to get any gui working. what's the best way of installing a gui for a cli only install?
[12:34] <PatrickDickey> allu3: if you type ifconfig into a terminal, and look at the eth0 information, what does inet addr say?
[12:34] <allu3> scrlk: i'd start with apt-get install gnome-shell and pray :P
[12:34] <allu3> PatrickDickey: something ugly.. let me pastebin it :P
[12:35] <ericus> Hey all
[12:35] <allu3> PatrickDickey: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1315054/
[12:35]  * PatrickDickey faceplants....  I think I missed the obvious here, and will know in a few seconds
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> scrlk: you may also want to install lightdm (unless its a dep)
[12:35] <scrlk> allu3: haha, im trying to erase gnome from my life. 3 years of a linux haitus, and all hell goes to loose in the world of desktop enviorment
[12:36] <allu3> scrlk: you want to erase gnome and go to cinnamon...
[12:36] <PatrickDickey> allu3:  paste the entire results of ifconfig in a pastebin, please.
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> scrlk: Cinnamon isn't supported here, just so you know
[12:36] <allu3> PatrickDickey: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1315058/
[12:37] <PatrickDickey> scrlk:  install Cinnamon, then log into it, and remove the gnome-desktop (I'm not sure what it's exact name is).
[12:37] <scrlk> thanks all :)
[12:38] <PatrickDickey> allu3: your first problem is this. You have no IP Address assigned to the ethernet (wired) interface. You need to do that before you can connect to it with the lifebook.
[12:38] <allu3> PatrickDickey: so something like ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.1 ?
[12:40] <PatrickDickey> allu3: this will help you to set it up https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/network-configuration.html
[12:40] <mactheknife7> hi there, can you help with driver install? I get 'segmentation fault' error
[12:40] <PatrickDickey> allu3: go down to the IP Addressing section, and you can either do it temporarily with the sudo ifconfig command, or permanently.
[12:41] <PatrickDickey> mactheknife7: what driver, and what version of Ubuntu? Also are you installing it via apt-get, software center, or through dpkg itself?
[12:41] <ericus> I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 64, connected to a gigabit network. When transfering files to my Windows 2008 server, I only get about ~25MB/s. The NIC is a onboard-NIC, Realtek (w. lastest drivers). Also tried with a PCI-E NIC from Intel, still the same speed. Nothing wrong with the hardware; works fine under Windows 7 on the same machine. Any ideas?
[12:41] <mactheknife7> PatrickDickey: NVIDIA-Linux-x86-304.60.run
[12:42] <allu3> PatrickDickey: i just want it to work while i install the ubuntu via PXE
[12:42] <PatrickDickey> ericus, does the 2008 Server have a gigabit network card also? And does any router or switch that it passes through support Gigabit?
[12:42] <allu3> PatrickDickey: this is a lot of reading.. and i feel most of it is irrelevant for me at this point, wont the ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.1 really do the trick?
[12:42] <PatrickDickey> allu3:  then the sudo ifconfig comand might work for you. I'm not sure if you need to install dhcp server though or not (I think you do).
[12:43] <mactheknife7> install it with: su sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-304.60.run
[12:43] <PatrickDickey> sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 allu3
[12:43] <ericus> PatrickDickey, yes and yes. As said, it works just fine under Windows on the same machine (90-110MB/s)
[12:43] <allu3> PatrickDickey: so i have installed isc-dhcp-server and i've set the eth0 to 192.168.0.1.. next?
[12:44] <PatrickDickey> allu3 now you'll put that IP Address and subnet mask into the dhcp config file that you asked me about. He has 10.x.x.x on his.
[12:44] <allu3> PatrickDickey: could i just do ifconfig eth0 10.0.0.1 and then copypaste his config?
[12:45] <PatrickDickey> allu3, I'm not sure. I think you *need* a dhcp server somewhere along the lines. I think the pxe will try to get an IP address from that.
[12:46] <CrazyHorse18> Hi.. i'm setting up a new server and i need to create users for my applications.  Basically the users will only be used for permissions to dictate what files the applications can add.. how can i create a user that has very locked down priviliges and that can't login?
[12:46] <PatrickDickey> ericus, it might be that autonegotiation is picking the 100mbit speed instead of the 1gbit speed.
[12:47] <kennen> Q: hi i have a little question, i installed an ubuntu 12.10 (desktop) is it possible to change the runlevel? Becaus i dont need the desktop env
[12:48] <PatrickDickey> CrazyHorse18: you might look here for help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1291976
[12:48] <llutz> !nox | kennen
[12:48] <ericus> PatrickDickey, no that does not make sense, 25MB/s is about 200Mb/s
[12:48] <dr_willis> !text | kennen
[12:48] <dr_willis> same factoid
[12:48] <llutz> !runleve | kennen  just for info
[12:49] <dr_willis> kennen:  ubunto dosent really use runlevels for that stuff.
[12:49] <llutz> !runlevel | kennen  just for info
[12:49] <ericus> PatrickDickey, copying files FROM the windows server to the Ubuntu desktop = 35MB/s
[12:50] <hateball> ericus: Is this using an SMB share?
[12:50] <rictec> hum removed fglrx now i think its a litle better stil to slow
[12:50] <PatrickDickey> ericus: when you copy from windows server to windows desktop, is it around 90 MB/s also?
[12:50] <kennen> perfect thanks all, i will try right now :)
[12:50] <CrazyHorse18> thanks Patrick
[12:50] <PatrickDickey> no problem CrazyHorse18.
[12:51] <ericus> hateball, not sure if it's SMB, it's shared folders on the Win2k8-server
[12:51] <ericus> PatrickDickey, yes it is
[12:51] <sdxc> hey
[12:52] <sdxc> :D
[12:53] <hateball> ericus: Yes that would be SMB then. You could try doing a transfer over SSH (winscp) and see if there's any difference. I've had issues with slow performance over SMB
[12:53] <PatrickDickey> ericus: my first guess would be a driver problem. But, I'm not sure. You might try searching for something like model of gigabit card ubuntu low speeds. If hateball's idea doesn't work.
[12:54] <PatrickDickey> hey sdxc
[12:54] <ericus> PatrickDickey, I've tried the latest driver and also another gigabit NIC
[12:54] <ericus> :/
[12:56] <ericus> PatrickDickey, hateball, I will try winscp
[12:58] <robbie> I need help with my network
[12:58] <kennen> bad new, i ca't acces to my grup menu with ESC or Shift :(
[12:58] <robbie> it doesnt matter what settings I use, my wired connection keeps dropping for no apparent reason
[13:00] <PatrickDickey> ericus: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1582408 talks about a similar issue, and some possible solutions.
[13:01] <robbie> I need help with my network
[13:02] <jalexandru> is there a way to restore the default ubuntu configuration? or do I need to reinstall the os in order to obtain this?
[13:02] <kennen> is there no way to change the grup config while the system is running? I think my keyboard isnt working at the bootloader or something strange else
[13:02] <robbie> jalexandru: that is a convenient way to do it because otherwise there are a lot of things to purge and reinstall
[13:02] <PatrickDickey> robbie, give us some basic information about your setup, what you've tried, and what it does. Also if it worked in a previous version or not. I know you've been in here off and on all weekend, but some people may not have seen you.
[13:02] <sls> join #als
[13:03] <DamienCassou> hi
[13:03] <DamienCassou> is there a standard way to get the full path of a .so file from the name of the library? Something like $( locate cairo | grep \.so | grep /usr/lib) but better?
[13:03] <robbie> I have a basic wired eth0 connection to my cable modem/router. dhcp works just fine, so does static routes, but neither keeps my system from dropping the connection
[13:04] <robbie> I have also tried disabling 19v6, including blacklisting the modules
[13:04] <allu3> kennen: if i'm not mistaken something like init 2
[13:04] <PatrickDickey> robbie: bad connections (physical), bad cables? bad ends?
[13:04] <robbie> and uninstalling dhcp client when set up in static ip
[13:04] <allu3> uh i hate when i've forgot to scroll down irssi..
[13:04] <robbie> PatrickDickey: I guess it is possible, let me swap them out :)
[13:04] <llutz> DamienCassou: find /usr/lib -iname '*cairo*.so'
[13:05] <kennen> allu3: yes i want to run my system in text-mode, thats no problem but i cant acces the grup2 menu on boot ...
[13:05] <BluesKaj> robbie, disabling ipv6 isn't going to matter much , if you still have network manager installed with static IP is redundancy IMO
[13:05] <jason> .net
[13:06] <PatrickDickey> robbie, another thing to try (and this is a bit extreme), power off everything (unplug the modem and any routers), then power them all back on after about 30 seconds. Start with modem, then any routers, then any servers, and finally your computer.
[13:06] <robbie> BluesKaj: yea I have tried various static ip configs, directly and with network manager
[13:06] <robbie> PatrickDickey: that Ive tried too :(
[13:06] <robbie> let me find a cable now :)
[13:06] <DamienCassou> llutz: thanks. I know how to search for files in general, but is there a standard mechanism dedicated to .so files?
[13:07] <BluesKaj> robbie, let the interfaces file handle the network management for you , network manager itself isn't rerquired
[13:07] <llutz> DamienCassou: none i would know
[13:07] <guest-zQeYLb> hi I'm on Ubuntuy 12.04 and trying to personalize the guest session. Specifically, I'd like to add a launcher to the unity sidebar. Tried copying over running guest folder setup to /etc/skel/guest-session, but seems it isn't taken into account =? Suggestions?
[13:07] <allu3> PatrickDickey: i think i've managed to get the dhcp part working.. now to tftp :P
[13:07] <allu3> PatrickDickey: do i really need to install cobbler to use tftpd ?
[13:08] <aafa> hi there. how can i revert back to my Intel graphics? Note: After installation it was Intel already supported, then i installed nVidia through Addinitional Drivers, and it did not support as usual (Optimus) and now im stucked with nouveau
[13:08] <PatrickDickey> allu3: I don't know. I've never used cobbler.
[13:08] <llutz> DamienCassou: ldconfig -p [ | grep whatever]
[13:08] <DamienCassou> llutz: so how do applications find these .so files? Is this hardcoded using the ./configure mechanism? If yes, how does the ./configure mechanism find them?
[13:08] <astex> aafa: sudo rmmod nouveau; sudo modprobe i915
[13:08] <allu3> aafa: have you tried removing the nvidia driver and blacklisting nouveau?
[13:09] <robbie> PatrickDickey: I can tell already it cant be the cablle
[13:09] <llutz> DamienCassou: .so /libs are in directories known to the system. that manages ldconfig, apps searching only these directories by default
[13:09] <robbie> PatrickDickey: because the way the internet reconnected when I attached the new cable was different -- I get my connection back right away
[13:09] <aafa> allu3: thanks for respond, I did not remove nVidia, but disabled driver from Additional Drivers.
[13:10] <llutz> DamienCassou: check /etc/ld.so.conf(.d/)
[13:10] <PatrickDickey> robbie, does the connection stay up though?
[13:10] <robbie> so far :) I guess Ill need a few minutes now -- wish me luck :P
[13:10] <BluesKaj> robbie  I still think the network manager is the culprit
[13:10] <DamienCassou> llutz: thank you
[13:11] <PatrickDickey> robbie is that with the new cable or the old one?
[13:11] <robbie> BluesKaj: what do you think is wrong with it?
[13:11] <robbie> PatrickDickey: the newtest cable
[13:11] <aafa> allu3: now should I apply those commands above or sth else ?
[13:11] <PatrickDickey> allu3: http://www.howtogeek.com/61263/how-to-network-boot-pxe-the-ubuntu-livecd/ might be good.
[13:11] <BluesKaj> robbie, it's probly buggy on your setup
[13:11] <user01> hi im trying to get a juniper java vpn network connect to work under linux and having issues, does anyone have experience with this?
[13:12] <PatrickDickey> robbie: BluesKaj thinks you should use /etc/network/interfaces and skip network manager. I agree, especially if the new cable fails.
[13:12] <aafa> should I apply these commands: "sudo rmmod nouveau; sudo modprobe i915"  after killing X or it does not matter?
[13:12] <robbie> PatrickDickey, BluesKaj: ok we'll see. Ive tried that before I think but maybe I missed something
[13:13] <robbie> hey, its been up almost a whole song on my internet radio :D good luck so far
[13:13] <PatrickDickey> robbie, also try a different port on the router, if you can. it could be that.
[13:14]  * PatrickDickey in about two days, when robbie hasn't come back, I'll say "It was probably the cable"  :P
[13:15]  * PatrickDickey speaking of Internet radio.... If I'm going to be up, I should be listening to My103.9 (Phoenix). The morning DJ is hot....  back on topic again.
[13:16] <robbie_> hey so I just lost my connection again
[13:16] <robbie_> it wasnt the cable
[13:16] <BluesKaj> robbie,, I basically purge network manager
[13:16] <PatrickDickey> Try a different port. Then remove network-manager, and try adding a static ip to /etc/network/interfaces
[13:17] <PatrickDickey> I'd set up the static IP first, then purge network-manager robbie
[13:17] <BluesKaj> think he already is static
[13:20] <robbie_> BluesKaj, PatrickDickey: Im not clear what to do next.. both of you have ideas Ive already tried efore
[13:20] <robbie_> *before
[13:20] <robbie_> well I dont know that I purged network manager .. just uninstalled dhcp client
[13:20] <PatrickDickey> robbie, if you have a static IP Address set up in /etc/network/interfaces, then purge network-manager.
[13:20] <robbie_> right now I dont have static ip set up and the router isnt set for it either
[13:21] <PatrickDickey> robbie, the router doesn't matter. All you have to do is pick an IP that's outside of the range that the router assigns and use that.
[13:21] <robbie_> Ive also tried turning off autonegotiation
[13:21] <robbie_> but it is on again now
[13:22] <BluesKaj> robbie_, have you tried connecting without network manager installed , not just disabled , but totally removed ...you can still use dhcp , but static is recommended
[13:22] <dutch> what IM program does 12.04 use ?  can't find anything
[13:22] <robbie_> PatrickDickey: ok well I have done that already yesterday and it didnt work if that is the only change.. what else besides that do I also need to do
[13:23] <Babybuntu> I have been backing up my /home with deja dup, my /home is on a seperate drive already.  yesterday I droped my laptop and my /home drive is broken =[  deja dup was using encryption and now I cant restore my /home =[ anyone have ideas?
[13:23] <robbie_> BluesKaj: is there an online reference that suggests removing netowrk manager for any ubuntu build from the last few years? because thats a fix from a *long* time ago
[13:23] <PatrickDickey> robbie_:  I'd try removing network-manager. See if that fixes the issue. Like BluesKaj is recomending.
[13:23] <robbie_> BluesKaj: no I havent yet
[13:24] <robbie_> BluesKaj: I'd disabled it though
[13:24] <PatrickDickey> Babybuntu, do you remember the password that was used to encrypt the /home partition?
[13:24] <Babybuntu> PatrickDickey: yes
[13:24] <PatrickDickey> dutch: Empathy, Pidgin, aMSN, Skype, take your pick. I think empathy and Gwibber are default though.
[13:25] <dutch> PatrickDickey, thanks..I'll check and see
[13:25] <PatrickDickey> Babybuntu: does the computer boot to ubuntu at all?
[13:25] <Babybuntu> PatrickDickey: the /home was not encrypted. only the backup was encrypted with deja dup
[13:25] <PatrickDickey> Babybuntu: understood. ;-)
[13:26] <Babybuntu> PatrickDickey: yes I get to root shell but it says no backupchain was found =[
[13:26] <BluesKaj> the only need for network manager is for wifi , IMO ..we aren't supposed to tell ppl to remove apps , but in this case I'm convinced NM is redundant and is causing problems , robbie
[13:26] <PatrickDickey> Babybuntu: does it boot to a normal desktop?
[13:26] <antanas> gfgdfgksdfgdhfsdgfygafhgdodyocsdvvcd
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[13:26] <antanas> s<gfsdalkjcghdhghfgkdhsgvkhlsgvlskvl
[13:26] <FloodBot1> antanas: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:26] <antanas> hvjvhvb hdb hj h bhbsdjhbsjh  dfhsdb
[13:27]  * PatrickDickey wonders how long antanas is in time out.
[13:28]  * PatrickDickey about that long, I guess.
[13:28] <BluesKaj> antanas, any atentioon is good attention eh ?
[13:28] <antanas> gfgdfgksdfgdhfsdgfygafhgdodyocsdvvcd
[13:28] <antanas> yehxcoencnxomwiwexh<zu,qlrgxnnngcgcg
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[13:28] <FloodBot1> antanas: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:28] <antanas> fgbfhsd b jhsbjsd jhsdbjhsb f hsdbhl
[13:29] <BluesKaj> antimon, you're an idiot :)
[13:29] <PatrickDickey> We used to have people like that in my old chat rooms...  Loved perma-ban.
[13:30] <PatrickDickey> don't do it antanas
[13:30] <aafa> hi there. how can i revert back to my Intel graphics? Note: After installation it was Intel already supported, then i installed nVidia through Addinitional Drivers, and it did not support as usual (Optimus)
[13:30] <antanas> change your nick, dick
[13:30] <BluesKaj> antanas, idiot !
[13:31] <aafa> Intel grx was working flawlessly after installation, then I enabled nVidia and it lacked so disabled again
[13:32] <PatrickDickey> aafa, you could remove the nvidia drivers completely.
[13:33] <optraz> how do i reinstall the ati driver?
[13:33] <aafa> PatrickDickey: how to do it?
[13:34] <PatrickDickey> aafa, first dpkg -l nvidia to find out which one it installed. then sudo apt-get remove that driver.
[13:34] <PatrickDickey> optraz: did you uninstall it, or did you upgrade and it wasn't installed after?
[13:34] <jimcain> hi
[13:34] <aafa> PatrickDickey: No packages found matching nvidia.
[13:35] <jimcain> annnnd bye
[13:35] <optraz> PatrickDickey: i have upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10 and the X just wont start http://pastebin.com/kXNfER3i
[13:35] <mag]> hmm.. I'm using ubuntu 11.04 at work, and it's peculiar and funny that when I leave it up for a long time and the memory usage sits around 99% (cache // programs) if I start to do memory intensive stuff (running a program  with a large data structure) like gnome or nautilus starts to mess up with characters missing and/or being replaced with weird ones... my only solution is to log out / log back in to restart gnome(I think)
[13:36] <PatrickDickey> optraz: which card do you have?
[13:37] <aafa> I want my Intel grx back, it's confusing please help
[13:37] <PatrickDickey> mag]: what applications do you normally have running?
[13:37] <optraz> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RV710 [Radeon HD 4350] [1002:954f] (prog-if 00 [VGA  controller])
[13:37] <optraz> PatrickDickey: ^^
[13:37] <mag]> PatrickDickey, emacs, firefox, chrome ... banshee
[13:37] <optraz> PatrickDickey: can you tell me how to remove and install again the ati driver from cli? because right now X just can NOT start.
[13:37] <PatrickDickey> optraz have you tried this at allhttp://www.unixmen.com/ubuntu-12-10-and-amd-catalyst-problem-solved/
[13:38] <PatrickDickey> mag]: firefox and chrome are my guess for your culprits.
[13:38] <mag]> PatrickDickey, I don't know if it's because I try to go for like a month of uptime, or if my system memory might be weird... because at home it's not like I sit at 99% memory usage
[13:39] <mag]> PatrickDickey, I was hoping to find a setting that would let me lower the amount of cache I would necessarily need to keep around, and see if having free ram would help
[13:39] <PatrickDickey> mag]: If you're leaving firefox and chrome open the entire time, that's probably number 1. I just closed out chrome with five tabs open, and dropped 22%.
[13:40] <optraz> PatrickDickey: and legacy_fglrx is not in the repo?!
[13:40] <mag]> PatrickDickey, yeah, no joke, they're ridiculous on memory usage... it's just kind of alarming that memory intensive operations like that would screw up the interface so much ... which I think is cache related ... but idk
[13:41] <scrlk> whats the command to remove unity + gnome? i've just switched over to cinnamon
[13:41] <PatrickDickey> optraz:  nope.
[13:41] <PatrickDickey> scrlk: sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop will get rid of unity.
[13:41] <optraz> PatrickDickey: what commadn to cehck the version of xorg?
[13:41] <illoomn8> if I apt-get --reinstall a package, will it leave my conf files in tact?
[13:41] <scrlk> thanks, what about gnome packages?
[13:42] <PatrickDickey> scrlk: You'll need to keep some gnome packages, I think. Do you have gnome3 installed?
[13:42] <scrlk> PatrickDickey: this is a fresh install of 12.10
[13:42] <PatrickDickey> mag]: you could type free into a terminal, and see whether it's using your swap at all.
[13:43] <PatrickDickey> scrlk: then you'll just need to remove ubuntu-desktop.
[13:43] <scrlk> PatrickDickey: thanks :)
[13:43] <optraz> PatrickDickey: what commadn to cehck the version of xorg?
[13:43] <PatrickDickey> No problem scrlk.
[13:44] <PatrickDickey> optraz, I'll look into that. I'm not sure right off-hand.
[13:47] <PatrickDickey> optraz X -version
[13:48] <mag]> PatrickDickey, I noticed the same behavior when I tried to flush the cache from the command line (googled (from command line fu)) free && sync && echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches && free ; if that might distinguish something
[13:48] <osse> jrib: if I export LANG=en_US.UTF-8 in the script it works... That was the whole issue it seems.
[13:48] <optraz> PatrickDickey: X.Org X Server 1.13.0
[13:49] <optraz> PatrickDickey: so i guess my card falled on the affected radeon card series
[13:49] <optraz> and the xorg version too
[13:49] <Led_Zeppelin> anyone here use virtualbox?
[13:49] <PatrickDickey> optraz, I guess so. You could try the third option (adding the ppa, update, upgrade, and install). My X version is 1.12.3 after doing that.
[13:50] <PatrickDickey> Led_Zeppelin: Occasionally. I haven't actually opened it since upgrading though.
[13:50] <Led_Zeppelin> Running 12.04. I am using virtual box on 2 monitors. I got full screen to work but I still see ubuntu tool bar on the right monitor.
[13:50] <Led_Zeppelin> PatrickDickey, dual monitor?
[13:50] <PatrickDickey> Led_Zeppelin: nope. sorry.
[13:50] <Led_Zeppelin> basically, how do I disable tool bar on the top ?
[13:51] <PatrickDickey> Led_Zeppelin: I'm not sure. If someone doesn't have an answer here, you could try #vbox that's the channel for virtualbox.
[13:51] <Led_Zeppelin> don't think its a vbox issue. Its a ubuntu issue.
[13:52] <optraz> Led_Zeppelin: yes me
[13:52] <optraz> PatrickDickey: no, i dont want other ppl repo
[13:53] <optraz> PatrickDickey: just want official repo
[13:53] <PatrickDickey> optraz: I'm not sure what to tell you then. I can tell you that I'm using the ppa without any problems.  But, your mileage may vary.
[13:53] <Led_Zeppelin> how do I set the "look and feel" of my desktop ?
[13:53] <PatrickDickey> optraz: and I totally respect you for not wanting to use it.
[13:54] <optraz> PatrickDickey: thanks, i have removed fglrx fglrx-amdcccle fglrx-updates xorg-driver-fglrx
[13:54] <optraz> downlaoded the fglrx_legacy
[13:56]  * PatrickDickey hopes that some of the people from the developer summit conference are noting the large number of graphics related issues. And hopefully are working to get some of the not as older cards supported somehow.
[13:58] <optraz> sh amd-driver-installer-12.6-legacy-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/quantal <== not available for quantal?!
[13:58] <Led_Zeppelin> how do I disable toolbars?
[13:59] <Led_Zeppelin> eh. nevermind I will install KDE
[14:00] <rictec> hi can anyone help with ati x1400?
[14:01] <PatrickDickey> optraz: I'm not sure what dependencies you need to get it to do the buildpkg portion.
[14:01] <optraz> PatrickDickey: no, that amd driver does not have for quantal but the link that you gave me said that option is available
[14:04] <PatrickDickey> I'm not sure then optraz. DId you purge anything fglrx related before installing the driver?
[14:06] <miistx> un saluto
[14:06] <guang_> When i click once using mouse,but it sometimes works as if i have clicked twice.Is my mouse in trouble?
[14:06] <optraz> PatrickDickey: no.. nvm
[14:07] <rictec> whats this: Number of created screens does not match number of detected devices
[14:07] <PatrickDickey> I was going to say that this is where I started at optraz http://askubuntu.com/questions/202857/cant-install-ati-proprietary-drivers-in-12-10/202885#202885
[14:07] <rictec> cant create a xorg.conf
[14:07] <PatrickDickey> miistx, un saluto
[14:08] <PatrickDickey> guang_: do you mean that single click opens files instead of needing to double click?
[14:08] <magic_al> i try to get a java plugin running for my browsers (chrome and friefox). but even after installing the restricted JDK icetea 6 and 7 as well extras it wont work, can anybody help me?
[14:08] <blazemore> magic_al: sudo update-java-alternatives -l
[14:08] <thesadma1ioso> whois thesadmafioso
[14:08] <blazemore> then sudo update-java-alternatives -s java-7-oracle or similar
[14:08] <thesadma1ioso> haha sorry folks
[14:08] <PatrickDickey> magic_al you can go to java, and download the jdk. It has the jre included.
[14:09] <magic_al> PatrickDickey, what is jre?
[14:09] <blazemore> magJava Runtime Environment
[14:09] <blazemore> magic_al: ^
[14:09] <PatrickDickey> Java Runtime Environment. It's what makes the java work in your browser. The jDK is the developer kit.
[14:09] <optraz> mmm
[14:10] <optraz> got my x back
[14:10] <PatrickDickey> WOOOHOOOO optraz :D
[14:10] <magic_al> blazemore, the update thing didnt work
[14:11] <Firered365> Hello.  I need help.
[14:11] <nopf> Firered365: hi. you need help
[14:12] <Aleush> hi
[14:12] <YIFU> hi
[14:12] <fidel_> !ask | Firered365
[14:12] <magic_al> PatrickDickey, but you dont mean OpenJdk, dont you? i have them both installed 6 and 7
[14:12] <PatrickDickey> magic_al: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/index.html that's where you can get the jdk from.
[14:12] <Aleush> Firered365: why do you need help
[14:13] <PatrickDickey> magic_al: nope, I mean the oracle (used to be Sun) java. Their proprietary one.
[14:13] <magic_al> PatrickDickey, so i can remove the openJDK things?
[14:13] <PatrickDickey> You can, or you can leave them installed.
[14:13] <Firered365> I am trying to install Ubuntu 12.04.1 and it tells me 0 disk space available.  Also,  ubi partman gives me error code 10 and closes down on installation
[14:14] <mag]> not error code 10!! ?!?!
[14:15] <YIFU> what is the best software on android to login irc?
[14:15] <ericus> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12324531 <-- please help me out
[14:15] <ericus> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12324531 <-- please help me out
[14:16] <ericus> I can't get decent gigabit lan speed
[14:16] <ericus> Ubuntu > Windows 2008r2 Server
[14:16] <guang_> PatrickDickey:i mean when i click just once,but i do what i should click twice..
[14:16] <Firered365> It has a check that says at least 4.5 GB available.
[14:17] <DJones> YIFU: You're probably best asking in #android or ##android (I think one of those is the right channel) rather than the #ubuntu channel
[14:17] <PatrickDickey> Firered365: here's a link to some information about partman error code 10 http://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?58457-Installer-crashed It's for kubuntu, but the advice may help you too.
[14:18] <compdoc> ericus, could be you have a slow hard drive on either end of the xfer
[14:18] <Rahul_> i am completly new to ubuntu. I am in bangalore. Do any of you in bangalore and willng to teach step by step.
[14:18] <MonkeyDust> YIFU  430 people in #android
[14:20] <YIFU> thanks,monkeydust
[14:20] <Rahul_> what is this. No real communication by human here. Only update message of member joins and left. I thought, Ubuntu community will be great on IRC
[14:20] <PatrickDickey> guang, you can change the click in Nautilus > Edit > Preferences > Behaviour tab.
[14:20] <MonkeyDust> Rahul_  you can disable those messages, depending on the client you use
[14:21] <onca> hi, can i somehow install linux on a system with no bios support for usb booting and no burning capacity?
[14:21] <PatrickDickey> Rahul_: we're here. Sometimes we're not talking. Sometimes, we're looking up something for someone else's question. And in my case, I may not be here after all.
[14:21] <Rahul_> I am using webchat.freenote.net, I am completly new to irc too. Can you help me to show, how to do it.
[14:22] <MonkeyDust> Rahul_  type /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:23] <DataLate> hey, i really need help
[14:23] <DataLate> i removed the file ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 from lib64
[14:23] <DataLate> now i can't run any progrmas
[14:23] <PatrickDickey> onca, does the computer support netboot?
[14:23] <ericus> compdoc, no, it works fine from Win7 > Win server
[14:23] <ericus> on the same machine
[14:24] <onca> patrickdickey, maybe but what other machine would i use?
[14:24] <PatrickDickey> onca, do you have another machine?
[14:24] <onca> kindof, its a communal machine running windows 7
[14:24] <uglyoldbob> My ubuntu server installation (10.04) cannot find package libfaac-dev
[14:24] <PatrickDickey> onca can it burn a DVD?
[14:25] <onca> no.
[14:25] <Rahul_> Ya, Now its ok but <MonkeyDust> <PatrickDickey> what this offtopic command basically does?
[14:25] <PatrickDickey> onca right now, are you on Ubuntu (an older version)?
[14:25] <rictec> reboot again
[14:25] <DataLate> someone?
[14:26] <onca> patrickdickey, no right now i am on windows xp
[14:26] <PatrickDickey> Rahul_: offtopic means that it's not exactly a conversation for this channel. In other words, it's not exactly a support question, so you'll want to go to the offtopic channel.
[14:27] <rootpt> i install apache and no-ip.org host, when i put the host in the firefox it goes to my router configuration page instead to var/www/ can someone tells me why ?
[14:28] <PatrickDickey> onca this link might give you some ideas https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation#Server and network installations
[14:28] <onca> thanks!
[14:28] <DataLate> i removed the file ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 from lib64
[14:28] <DataLate> now i can't run any progrmas
[14:28] <magic_al> PatrickDickey, i downloaded the jdk and now i have two folders, etc and usr. but no executable file, what to do with them?
[14:29] <PatrickDickey> rootpt you need to use port forwarding on your router, and point to the IP Address of your web server.
[14:29] <emes> I'm on a thinkpad t430s, and when I resume from sleep on 12.10 the sound stops working. didn't have this issue with 12.04. ideas?
[14:29] <fairuz> Hi, Is there a list where I can get supported nvidia graphic cards on Ubuntu. (to install proprietary drivers)
[14:30] <rictec> well some things are better
[14:30] <PatrickDickey> magic_al: did you download the jdk7u9 one? or a java 6 one?
[14:30] <BoozeWooz> hello
[14:30] <magic_al> PatrickDickey, 7u9
[14:30] <BoozeWooz> guhhh
[14:30] <PatrickDickey> magic_al: http://docs.oracle.com/javase/7/docs/webnotes/install/index.html installation instructions
[14:31] <PatrickDickey> fairuz: http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/catalog/make/NVIDIA%20Corporation/
[14:32] <magic_al> PatrickDickey, thank you
[14:32] <fairuz> PatrickDickey: ty
[14:32] <DataLate> anyone?
[14:32] <PatrickDickey> fairuz: it's not updated to 12.10 though. So you're mileage may vary.
[14:32] <PatrickDickey> no problem. magic_al and fairuz.
[14:36] <PatrickDickey> DataLate: can you still do sudo apt-get update?  If so, you could try to reinstall libc6 with sudo apt-get install libc6
[14:37] <PatrickDickey> DataLate: either sudo apt-get reinstall libc6 or sudo apt-get install --reinstall libc6 might help you.
[14:37] <rictec> dam 12.10
[14:43] <vitimiti> (·_·)/
[14:44] <Dondumul> Where channels for request free shell
[14:44] <kunji> Hey, does anyone know how you could save a libreoffice document on a remote machine?  That is, I left my homework open, and unsaved on my home machine, and I would like to save it somehow remotely through ssh.
[14:44] <bazhang> !alis | Dondumul have a search
[14:44] <rictec> and...another reboot
[14:45] <bazhang> Dondumul, #freenode for more help
[14:45] <hadim_> hadim
[14:48] <Dondumul> Request free shell please
[14:48] <bazhang> Dondumul, this is not the right place to ask. I told you  where
[14:50] <rictec> how can i disable this low graphics warning at boot?
[14:52] <delinquentme> so if I run $ locate narray_config.h
[14:52] <delinquentme> that should locate that file *anywhere* on my system right?
[14:53] <systest> anyone have a pointer to a doc for restoring DNS access to to 32bit apps under avahi/mdns?
[14:54] <MonkeyDust> delinquentme  start with something shorter, locate narray or so
[14:54] <Erik_D> delinquentme: it should
[14:54] <Erik_D> delinquentme: assuming it exists
[14:54] <optraz> PatrickDickey: not good... driver install but reso is low
[14:55] <wols_> delinquentme: only if you have mlocate installed and it runs once per day to update its DB. man updatedb
[14:55] <optraz> [    33.300] (EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/xorg/extra-modules/extra-modules.dpkg-tmp/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.so: /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/xorg/extra-modules/extra-modules.dpkg-tmp/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.so: undefined symbol: noXFree86DRIExtension
[14:56] <emes> I'm on a thinkpad t430s, and when I resume from sleep on 12.10 the sound stops working. didn't have this issue with 12.04. ideas?
[14:56] <rootpt> PatrickDickey, can u explain better? sorry i really dont get it
[14:56] <Erik_D> Any xchat users know of a way to hide the "thisperson has quit", etc. messages?
[14:57] <Erik_D> clicking around for a minute turned up nothing.
[14:57] <delinquentme> wols_, how do I run a db update? $ updatedb >> updatedb: can not open a temporary file for `/var/lib/mlocate/mlocate.db'
[14:58] <llutz> delinquentme: sudo updatedb
[14:58] <PatrickDickey> rootpt, port forwarding tells your router, "if someone asks for port 80 (a web site), then they want this computer (the IP Address).. Otherwise, the router thinks that they're trying to configure it. So it shows them that screen.
[14:59] <acide-burn> hello
[14:59] <rootpt> i see
[14:59] <dr_willis> Erik_D: right click on channel tab/name in the channel listings
[14:59] <PatrickDickey> rootpt, http://portforward.com/ close the ad that appears, and then click on Router. Pick your router from the list, and then look for web server (or apache) in the next list.
[15:00] <rootpt> Ok man, i will try, thank u very much
[15:00] <Erik_D> thanks dr_willis !
[15:00] <PatrickDickey> rootpt: if your router is a combination modem/router, and it's not listed there, then you have to find the instructions for configuring it on that specific model.
[15:01] <rootpt> ok
[15:01] <rootpt> i will check and let u know if i get it
[15:01] <DataLate> PatrickDickey: i fixed my problem
[15:01] <PatrickDickey> well, I may not see it. I'm off to bed shortly. It's "late" in the day for me (as I work a graveyard shift).
[15:02] <PatrickDickey> DataLate: Glad to hear it. :D
[15:02] <DataLate> i booted from dvd, and created a new symlink to the library
[15:02] <DataLate> i couldn't even execute sudo
[15:02] <DataLate> only thing that worked was cd
[15:02] <PatrickDickey> DataLate: now everything is working good?
[15:02] <DataLate> yep i think so
[15:02] <DataLate> at least i could login now :D
[15:02] <savio> hello
[15:02] <devsys> Hi all, quick permissions question, I have a directory with rwx for the user and group (let's say the group name is sales), I added a new user with "adduser -G sales bob" but this user can't modify the files inside my directory. What am I doing wrong? I verified the sales group has rwx on the directory and its files. Thanks!
[15:03] <PatrickDickey> DataLate: That's always a bonus.
[15:03] <rootpt> PatrickDickey, To setup port forwarding on this router your computer needs to have a static ip address.
[15:03] <rootpt> it my real ip adress?
[15:03] <PatrickDickey> rootpt, it means that you have to tell the router not to give it a new IP Address. If the server is running linux, you can configure that in /etc/network/interfaces.
[15:05] <savio> rootpt, there is something called dhcp binding it uses your mac to provide ip address to your machin
[15:05] <PatrickDickey> rootpt: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.10/serverguide/network-configuration.html shows you how to configure a static IP in Ubuntu 12.10 (It's the same for earlier versions too).
[15:05] <rootpt> ok, im using 12.10 =)
[15:06] <seeqwell> free vpn anyone?
[15:07] <PatrickDickey> rootpt: in the link I just posted, skip to the IP Addressing section. Pick an IP Address that's outside of the range that your router assigns. For example, if your router assigns from 192.168.1.100 to 192.168.1.254, you want to use something from 192.168.1.2 to 192.168.1.99.
[15:07] <rootpt> yap ok
[15:07] <Mailman> So I can't seem to adjust my screen brightness at all. The function buttons make a bar pop up that is supposedly the brightness level, but the actual brightness does not change. I'm on an Acer Aspire One running Kubuntu 12.04.
[15:07] <lmat> How do I go about getting an old version of software?
[15:07] <lmat> Specifically, I'm looking for Tomcat 6.0.29.
[15:08] <PatrickDickey> and rootpt, ifconfig eth0 on the server will give you most of the information that you need. inet addr is your IP Address. netmask is the subnet mask.
[15:08] <nandersson> Hi, if I want to distribute BIG files to my clients and using torrent, which is the preferred torrent-server that I can find in Ubuntu?
[15:08] <rootpt> i saw that allready
[15:09] <PatrickDickey> nandersson: transmission is the default client. You'll have to create the torrent, and upload it to an engine. And seed it through the client. IIRC.
[15:09] <nandersson> PatrickDickey, yeah, What engine shall I use? I want to host it myself
[15:10] <dr_willis> lmat: depends on how old and what software. and whats in the repos.
[15:10] <PatrickDickey> nandersson: I'd imagine that as long as you create the torrent file, you can just send it to the clients.
[15:11] <nandersson> PatrickDickey, yes, but I have to put my file on some server, and I guess I have to point to that server.
[15:11] <fidel_> anyone used to 3ware raid controllers? i am using a 9650SE-12ML on a freshlyinstalled 12.04 - 64bit. i executed the installer from the code-set-iso and selected cli & webinterface. tw_cli works to aks the controller status - but the webinterface seems NOT to be accessible at all on http/https & default port 888. Any ideas? or any other place you would recommend to ask?
[15:11] <lmat> dr_willis: Ah, I'm finding something useful... https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/tomcat.html
[15:11] <nandersson> PatrickDickey, if I say "torrent server" that should explain what I am looking for.
[15:11] <lmat> dr_willis: It looks like tomcat6 is default (and it's what I want)
[15:11] <MonkeyDust> fidel_  try #ubuntu-server
[15:12] <PatrickDickey> nandersson: Here's a link to get you started. Understand that they're talking about a specific product (which may violate copyrights). The steps are the same for your product and torrent client. The client is also the server. http://www.sidewalkcrusaders.com/bthowto/btstart.html
[15:12] <lmat> dr_willis: I apt-get install ed it and it says "0% [Connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com" :(
[15:12] <kmicu> Is there any way to find out which packages will not work after upgrading 12.04 -> 12.10 ?
[15:12] <PatrickDickey> nandersson: If you don't own the copyrights to whatever you're planning on distributing, then don't distribute it without their permission.
[15:13] <dr_willis> lmat: east coast may be having issues right now.
[15:13]  * PatrickDickey along with the Midwest, as that frankenstorm is going to affect even us.
[15:13] <nandersson> PatrickDickey, Thanks :-) I am not going to share some hollywood block busters :-) It is for internal distribution of OVA-files (Open Virtualization Arch)
[15:14] <PatrickDickey> nandersson: sounds good. I'm just covering my butt. ;-)
[15:14] <nandersson> PatrickDickey, ...and these can be quite huge, so we do not feel confident using wget
[15:14] <dr_willis> i thought. torrent files had trackers. not servers. ;-)
[15:14] <nandersson> PatrickDickey, yeah :D thanks for your tip!
[15:15] <lmat> dr_willis: Ah. Thanks.
[15:15] <PatrickDickey> dr_willis: they do. I'm just giving him a start. After that, I'm not sure what he'll need to do.
[15:16]  * PatrickDickey and with this, I'm off to bed...
[15:16] <dutch> PatrickDickey, good night
[15:17] <delinquentme> in bash ... is there a character that I can use to continue the same command but on a new line?
[15:18] <mstenta> Hey all, wondering if anyone has any advice on this issue: I'm trying to install Ubuntu on my MacBook Pro (dualboot with OSX). I have done it before, but I recently deleted my old Ubuntu partition to redo it. I made a LiveDVD and LiveUSB with the AMD64+MAC ISO, which show up in Refit, but won't boot… just a blinking cursor. Any ideas?
[15:18] <SkyNetMaster> hi, any suggestions how to install libc 2.13 on 12.10?
[15:18] <Lunar_Lamp> delinquentme: \
[15:18] <raven> dont hate me ..but i run kde on top of ubuntu 12.04....problem is when i rdp to my pc using krdc it starts a unity session...any idea how i can  start a kde session
[15:18] <Lunar_Lamp> delinquentme: that is, you escape the new-line with the escape char, which is \
[15:19] <jrib> mstenta: first thing to do is checksum the iso and cd
[15:19] <delinquentme> Lunar_Lamp, thanks!
[15:19] <nandersson> PatrickDickey, Found here what I was looking for. Switching "server" for "tracker" helped. Thanks dr_willis ;) http://vorg.ca/1480-How-to-set-up-a-BitTorrent-tracker-on-Linux
[15:19] <mstenta> jrib: i have tried mounting it in VirtualBox in OSX, and it works
[15:19] <jrib> mstenta: doesn't matter
[15:20] <rigved> mstenta: press shift a few times as soon as you select to boot from ISO. then, select nomodeset.
[15:24] <optraz> okay thanks PatrickDickey
[15:24] <optraz> its work now.. fps around 2k
[15:27] <mstenta> jrib: i'll do a checksum right now… thanks
[15:27] <mstenta> jrib: i burned a DVD… that should work the same as a CD, right?
[15:27] <raven> dont hate me ..but i run kde on top of ubuntu 12.04....problem is when i rdp to my pc using krdc it starts a unity session...any idea how i can  start a kde session
[15:32] <Eagleman> Is there a way to copy passwords from a pc to another pc that it not attached to a network, securly?
[15:32] <jpds> Eagleman: USB key?
[15:32] <tensorpudding> use a usb thumbdrive
[15:32] <ericus> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12324531 <-- please help me out, gigabit speed sucks and I don't know why :(
[15:32] <emes> I'm on a thinkpad t430s, and when I resume from sleep on 12.10 the sound stops working. didn't have this issue with 12.04. ideas?
[15:33] <Eagleman> But how do a copy text from the command line to the clipboard from the usb stick?
[15:33] <rumpe1> Eagleman, ctrl-shift-c
[15:33] <Eagleman> And how do you select it?
[15:33] <Eagleman> Like i put every password in a seperate file and then?
[15:34] <jpds> Eagleman: Select, copy, paste as always?
[15:34] <Eagleman> But it has no GUI so i was wondering how i even select, since there is not even a mouse attached
[15:35] <marcus> any1 know what to do with "The DNS server isn't responding" windows 7 guest on virtualbox, ubuntu ? ((((NAT))))
[15:35] <MonkeyDust> marcus  try changing NAT to bridged
[15:36] <marcus> on bridged its always stuck on "Identifying network..."
[15:37] <MonkeyDust> marcus  try asking in #vbox
[15:37] <Sly> Alright, I tried asking this last night to no avail, both in here and on AskUbuntu. http://askubuntu.com/questions/207990/asus-q500a-will-not-boot-from-live-dvd
[15:37] <Sly> Anyone have any hints or such?
[15:38] <marcus> kk
[15:38] <compdoc> Sly, does it have a UFEI bios?
[15:38] <compdoc> UEFI
[15:38] <Sly> As far as I know, yes.
[15:39] <Sly> I know the DVD drive showed up as UEFI in the BIOS.
[15:39] <Eagleman> Did it had windows 8 preinstalled on it?
[15:39] <Sly> Yes, it had Windows 8 preinstalled.
[15:39] <Sly> Unfortunately. -_-;
[15:39] <dutchie> why has the libcherokee-mod-libssl package disappeared in quantal?
[15:40] <compdoc> Sly, well, in my gigabyte motherboard's bios, I have to turn off UEFI for display options, or Ubuntu has a blank screen at boot
[15:40] <compdoc> Sly, mine has Storage and Display settings for UEFI
[15:40] <Sly> compdoc: Maybe that's where my problem is. Mine does the same blank screen after it "boots".
[15:41] <Sly> I'm not sure if mine has that setting in BIOS, but I'll have to definitely give it a check.
[15:41] <Sly> Any other suggestions that might help if that doesn't?
[15:41] <skipp3r> hi all, i want to send the output of a script under /etc/cron.daily/ to /dev/null, how can i define the sdout inside the script?
[15:42] <compdoc> Sly, no, 12.04.1 ran perfectly after setting Display Uefi to legacy
[15:42] <DJones> !nomodeset | Sly This is a possibility,
[15:43] <Sly> DJones: I love you. Something like that is what I was looking for. :D
[15:43]  * Sly jots it down for later.
[15:44] <jack_> Hey, my friend is in a competition for the best ass of the year! Please vote for them! http://bestassoftheyear.eu/vote/48784
[15:44] <DJones> jack_: Not in this channel
[15:44] <Erik_D> jack_: go elsewhere if that's what you're posting >.<
[15:45] <LarryMurphy> I'm a pedophile!
[15:45] <dak0> Hey any overclocker here?
[15:46] <dak0> I tried "overclocking" channel but there was noting.
[15:46] <compdoc> Sly, be sure to try those grub options, but also be sure to set them back if they dont do it for you, or you can kill some important features
[15:46] <Pici> dak0: try ##hardware
[15:46] <MonkeyDust> Pici  was faster :)
[15:46] <rictec> so thats it no more 12.10 for me
[15:46] <dak0> @pici thank you
[15:47] <Sly> compdoc: Ubuntu isn't installed anyway. It wouldn't boot from the live DVD. That's what I've been trying to accomplish, but it's been failing.
[15:47] <Sly> So yeah. Don't have to worry about it messing anything up.
[15:47] <jason__> hi all. can anyone tell me if i can disable the screen lock that the screen saver causes
[15:48] <MonkeyDust> jason__  system settings, brightness and lock
 Yes, it had Windows 8 preinstalled.
[15:49] <Calinou> congrats
[15:49] <Calinou> now have fun disabling secure boot(R)
[15:52] <Sly> Calinou: could that be causing the problem? I did notice that it said something about "Secure boot not enabled." when I tried to boot it from the live DVD.
[15:53] <compdoc> it would be a bios option if its pocssible to disable
[15:53] <compdoc> possible
[15:54] <Sly> Oh yeah. I know it should be in BIOS. I just didn't know if that may be causing the problem.
[15:54]  * Sly hates Windows 8.
[15:54] <compdoc> one can only try
[15:54] <Sly> Didn't have a choice, though. Had to get something for work.
[15:54] <rootpt> PatrickDickey, finally i solve :)
[15:54] <rootpt> thanks man ;)
[15:54] <ubuntini> Hi there, ive got a server that im trying to secure and was thinking about iptables. The only problem is, its an email and web server and is used remotely by workers(some of which have ip addresses that change), any ideas if I can do anything with this?
[15:55] <Pumpkin-> ubuntini: there are many things you could do, but I'm afraid I think the question is to vague for anyone to really help you.
[15:56] <ubuntini> Pumpkin-, what other information would help for you to give a better opinion?
[15:57] <Pumpkin-> what attacks (or types of potential attacks) are you trying to defend against
[15:57] <mneptok> ubuntini: VPN is really the only solution. anything else (e.g. proxy) is just an abstraction layer that provides no real security.
[15:58] <mneptok> ubuntini: now, IPsec or PPPtP is another can of worms entirely.
[15:58] <henshaw> 'tail -f .xsession-errors' doesn't actually follow the file as it grows. that seems very odd. can anyone reproduce this behaviour?
[15:58] <ubuntini> Pumpkin-, basically we have a server that a team use, running apache and a database too. this is accessed internally, but also externally via its remote ip address. The problem now is im trying to ensure the security so people cannot get access to the data/files/sites on that server
[15:59] <mneptok> henshaw: tail doesn't do that. you want inotail.
[15:59] <mneptok> ubuntini: run the DB server on a separate machine that only accepts requests from the web server.
[16:00] <cass> hi
[16:00] <mneptok> ubuntini: (and the DB server has no public connection)
[16:00] <cass> hello!
[16:00] <ubuntini> mneptok, but the webserver still does, and if anyone gets access to that they will still get access to the data if you get me
[16:01] <mneptok> ubuntini: you want it connected to the public Internet so employees can use it remotely, but not accessible to the public except employees. this is a VPN.
[16:02] <mneptok> ubuntini: if you want the general public to access the web server, move as many services as possible off that machine. like the DB.
[16:02] <Calinou> Sly: secure boot is only disableable on x86 computers with win8 preinstalled, not ARM
[16:02] <Calinou> (seriously, MS)
[16:03] <ubuntini> mneptok, its not general public though, its remote sales team(i want to stop the general public if you get me)
[16:03] <Sly> Calinou: I'm not on an ARM system, so I should be good.
[16:03] <mneptok> ubuntini: VPN
[16:04] <henshaw> mneptok: ok. it's not installed by default though. and it worked in fedora - some packaging difference or something else?
[16:05] <ubuntini> mneptok, ok thankyou
[16:05] <Calinou> Sly: why did you buy a computer with win8 preinstalled anyway? you're supporting ms by doing so..
[16:05] <Calinou> and getting a refund is nearly impossible
[16:06] <Sly> Calinou: the computer was dirt cheap for the stats that it has, regardless of it being a Microshit product. My plan was always to install Linux on it.
[16:06] <Sly> There's not many computers you can buy with Linux preloaded on it.
[16:06] <xatcon> i m unable to connect my wireless head phn by dell to laptop-dell 1535 studio
[16:06] <xatcon> using ubuntu 12.04
[16:07] <Calinou> Sly: :| blame manufacturers who are too stupid, their computers would be cheaper if they had no OS
[16:07] <Calinou> this is meme-able
[16:07] <Calinou> and removing windows == waste of money
[16:08] <xatcon> need some help
[16:08] <Sly> Not really. The processor itself is valued at $225. I paid $640 after taxes and everything.
[16:08] <Esokra> i try to sandbox applications with arkose, but the global menu / HUD doesn't work with it, no matter which options i pass to arkose. Has anyone an idea?
[16:08] <Sly> 6GB of 1333 RAM
[16:08] <Sly> 750GB HD
[16:08] <xatcon> try to connect by bluetooth
[16:09] <mneptok> Sly: do you plan to use Windows at all?
[16:09] <Calinou> Sly: the computer would be $100 cheaper if there was no windows; I was just complaining about manufacturers
[16:09] <Sly> mneptok: perhaps as a dual boot at some point, but I wouldn't use Windows 8 either way.
[16:09] <llutz> Calinou: it wouldn't and now please take this "i hate ms" to #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:09] <mneptok> Sly: pull the hard disk, set it aside for when you go to resell. by a HD and do what you want to it.
[16:10] <Calinou> banned from -offtopic, try again(R)
[16:10] <Sly> mneptok: well, I can always pull the hard drive from my other computer.
[16:10] <bazhang> Calinou, thats enough
[16:10] <mneptok> Sly: probably too late for the "never even been booted" thing.
[16:10] <Sly> It already has Ubuntu 12.10 installed and working perfectl.
[16:10] <Sly> *perfectly
[16:10] <henshaw> mneptok: http://distanz.ch/inotail/ says "As of version 7.5 of coreutils tail --follow uses inotify if available (as inotail does). "
[16:11] <Sly> I haven't looked up to see if this case has enough room for two drives.
[16:11] <mneptok> henshaw: OK, so add the arg to your tail command.
[16:11] <Esokra> Sly: Do you know where to get help with sandboxing application with arkose?
[16:11] <edve> anyone knows a good alternative to landscape ?
[16:12] <sipior> edve: portrait?
[16:12] <Erik_D> lol
[16:12] <xatcon> lol
[16:12] <henshaw> mneptok: I did, unless you're saying that there's a difference between "-f" and "--follow"
[16:12] <Erik_D> edve: What is landscape?
[16:12] <Esokra> ^^
[16:12] <Erik_D> (not the photo orientation :P)
[16:12] <mneptok> henshaw: i don't know. i know the --follow arg is actually documented.
[16:12] <xatcon> scape  full land i think
[16:12] <edve> Thank you Erik
[16:13] <edve> no it's the service offered by cannonical
[16:13] <mneptok> Erik_D: remote monitoring and admin for Ubuntu, a paid Canonical service.
[16:13] <mneptok> edve: Puppet?
[16:13] <Esokra> has nobody ever heared of arkose ?
[16:13] <xatcon> how i use my dell wire less blue tooth headset with my laptop
[16:13] <Erik_D> edve: I have no idea, sorry
[16:14] <Lasivian> hiya
[16:14] <xatcon> any adv
[16:14] <Lasivian> I'm looking for a way to find a file and see both it's location and it's size
[16:14] <Lasivian> from commandline that is. ls-R | grep will give me the sizes, and find gives me the locations, but I need both
[16:14] <henshaw> mneptok: nope, --follow doesn't work for me either
[16:14] <Esokra> how does global menu work? is it for every application different?
[16:14] <llutz> Lasivian: find /path -iname '*partofname*' | xargs ls -lh
[16:15] <mneptok> henshaw: dunno. i use inotail.
[16:15] <__nyarlathotep> anyone have experience setting up a permanent install of ubuntu server in virtualbox?
[16:15] <xatcon> can any one
[16:15] <Lasivian> llutz: damn, thank you :)
[16:16] <emes> I'm on a thinkpad t430s, and when I resume from sleep on 12.10 the sound stops working. didn't have this issue with 12.04. ideas?
[16:17] <xatcon> using 12.04 ...not able to connect ...wireless head set
[16:17] <jacobrask> I'm trying to install Ubuntu on my Macbook Air. It works up to the point where I get the menu to select install/boot options, but when I chose to open the live CD, X does not get started
[16:17] <riex> Hello. I've have some problems with my php settings, I have already installed php5-gd, but it needs TTF support how do i install that?
[16:17] <jacobrask> I tried nomodeset, is there another option I could try which might make X work?
[16:17] <jacobrask> I only get into the console
[16:18] <jacobrask> startx gives me a black window, not sure how to debug that
[16:18] <xatcon> its easy in window ...i dont like it
[16:18] <VlanX> hello there, i just got a   ehci_hcd 0000:00:1a.0: fatal error.  How can i restart that module?
[16:19] <bhavesh> I just installed Ubuntu 12.10, there is no driver is software sources > additional drivers. I want to install a driver for my nVidia graphics card. I ran apt-get update, would that help?
[16:19] <angel2979> Hello, I've computer installed with Ubuntu and Windows 7, I would like to create a backup of the entire HDD include the filesystem/karnel so i can restore entire computer in the future, how can I do this?
[16:20] <bazhang> angel2979, make a disk image? from the utility Disks?
[16:21] <angel2979> bazhang: yes I would like to create ISO of both operating system including the filesystem
[16:23] <neure> hi
[16:23] <neure> i am tryng to install ubuntu 12.04.1 on virtualbox
[16:23] <riex> Hello. I've have some problems with my php settings, I have already installed php5-gd, but it needs TTF support how do i install that?
[16:23] <neure> http://i.imgur.com/ov5hV.png
[16:23] <neure> what is this?
[16:23] <varikonniemi> angel2979, on new disk utility there is disk image functionlaity
[16:24] <varikonniemi> on 12.10
[16:26] <prashant_123456> no volume icon in lxde panel
[16:26] <rozmuq> yoyo
[16:26] <rozmuq> yoyo
[16:29] <riex> Hello. How do i get php-gd with TTF Support, come on. Nobody knows? :-]
[16:29] <quidnunc> The lightdm greeter is only starting intermittently for me. lightdm.log says "Sending signal 15, Greeter closed communication channel, X server stopped"
[16:29] <quidnunc> What gives?
[16:29] <CrazyGangster> @prashant_123456: you have to configure the panel, right click in the buttonbar and "Panel Settings"
[16:30] <is_null> hi all, what's the program that gets activated when hitting "alt" ? i'd like to try to use it in my other non-ubuntu setups
[16:30] <newbie01> hi would anyone mind helping out a ubuntu newb out? I just installed ubuntu 12.10 and I can't get my dual screens going
[16:30] <user007> Hi, when playing movies in Movie Player i get some flickering in the corners. Anyone know how to fix this? This does not happen in VLC
[16:31] <BluesKaj> is_null, alt+f2?
[16:31] <is_null> BluesKaj: nope, just alt, it pops an autocomplete allowing to do stuff like File -> Open etc ...
[16:32] <newbie01> can anyone point me to the right direction regarding setting up dual screens? (I'm assuming it is a driver issue but I can't find anywhere to check my hardware or drivers)
[16:32] <is_null> also, can someone with ubuntu 12.10 paste his grub.conf please ? I deleted it i'd like to restore it manually ... can't find it on google
[16:32] <BluesKaj> is_null, must be a unity or gnome thing , no such command on KDE
[16:33] <is_null> BluesKaj: that's a really neat hack, i'd like to find sources for that
[16:33] <is_null> these kind of menus are the last thing that make me have to use the mouse ..
[16:34] <bhavesh> Why don't I see anything in Software sources > Additional drivers tab? its empty
[16:36] <neure> is there some minimalistic desktop environment for ubuntu - even more than unity 2d?
[16:37] <bazhang> !notunity | neure
[16:37] <VlanX> colud please anybody tell me how do i reload  ehci_hcd?
[16:37] <bazhang> neure, the gnome-panel (classic look) is fairly so
[16:38] <wols_> VlanX: you rmmod it first, the modprobe it again
[16:38] <VlanX> wols_: i get ERROR: Module ehci_hcd does not exist in /proc/modules
[16:38] <wols_> neure: openbox, ratpoison, awesomewm, etc. those are all more minimalist. and of there there is lxde and xfce from lubuntu and xubuntu
[16:38] <wols_> VlanX: lsmod. check what is loaded
[16:39] <VlanX> wols_: on usb_hid?
[16:40] <wols_> VlanX: no, what is loaded at all
[16:40] <VlanX> wols_: http://pastebin.com/r6ffxq5F
[16:41] <wols_> VlanX: maybe it's not a module but compiled in
[16:41] <prashant_123456> CrazyGangster, yep thanks for the help
[16:41] <VlanX> yes it is
[16:41] <VlanX> apparently
[16:42] <VlanX> wols_: http://pastebin.com/1429kv9z
[16:42] <wols_> VlanX: that doesn't say if it is or not. /boot/config* is
[16:43] <VlanX> wols_:  root@server:~# modprobe -r ehci_hcd     FATAL: Module ehci_hcd is builtin
[16:44] <VlanX> wols_: i wonder if i can get the USB2.0 controller to come back alive w/out having to reboot the system
[16:44] <VlanX> i have many VM opened so it would be a major event
[16:46] <amb> hello
[16:47] <amb> i am  from iran
[16:47] <michal_> Hi
[16:47] <bazhang> amb, ubuntu support question?
[16:47] <amb> michal
[16:47] <michal_> yes?
[16:47] <amb> kasi  farsi  beladee
[16:48] <bazhang> !ir | amb
[16:48] <MRNV> 3
[16:48] <MRNV> 3
[16:49] <amb> can not setup persian languge
[16:49] <michal_> !ir
[16:49] <michal_> !pl
[16:49] <michal_> ubuntu-pl is empty ;(
[16:49] <llutz> it's not
[16:50] <michal_> I in
[16:50] <dak0> How  can I check my ubuntu version ?
[16:50] <llutz> dak0: lsb_release -sc
[16:51] <dak0> priciese
[16:51] <dak0> but I need to know 12.04
[16:51] <dak0> or 12.10
[16:51] <llutz> precise is 12.04
[16:52] <dak0> 12.10 is  beta?
[16:52] <llutz> !quantal | dak0
[16:53] <omenz> been rooted lately?
[16:53] <dak0> becuase update menager is not showing the new updates
[16:53] <Thales0796> Helle, can I create a persistent session x2go on a remote server ?
[16:53] <bazhang> omenz, is that a support question?
[16:54] <trism> dak0: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuDesktop#Upgrading_from_Ubuntu_12.04_LTS (need to enable normal release upgrades)
[16:55] <chuck_> 这个怎么用
[16:56] <bazhang> !cn | chuck_
[16:56] <socialbug> why do i have all the videos from youtube blue?!?!?!
[16:57] <bazhang> socialbug, full screen the flash video, disable hardware acceleration
[16:57] <socialbug> ok
[16:57] <socialbug> all try that
[16:59] <ChogyDan> Im having a bug during the boot process.  How do I file a bug?
[16:59] <bazhang> !bugs | ChogyDan
[17:00] <ChogyDan> bazhang: I read that page, and I couldn't figure it out, hence why I am asking here.  The page is focuses on a specific package or process, but it happens during boot, so I don't know the package or process
[17:01] <bazhang> ChogyDan, whats the bug you say you found then
[17:03] <ChogyDan> bazhang: the boot pauses if I have a drive disconnected.  There is a prompt asking to skip mounting the drive, but that prompt disappears if you exit the splash screen and go back.  So, either the boot shouldn't pause, or the prompt should remain shown
[17:03] <bazhang> ChogyDan, and if the drive is connected?
[17:04] <ChogyDan> bazhang: it's fine.  It seems the boot process doesn't like the missing mount points
[17:04] <bazhang> ChogyDan, and the drive is in fstab?
[17:04] <ChogyDan> the drive is just extra storage.  Yes, I think it is in fstab, lemme check though
[17:05] <bazhang> ChogyDan, and how long is this "pause"?
[17:05] <ChogyDan> yea, fstabed.  Permanent
[17:06] <bazhang>  ChogyDan, and how long is this "pause"?
[17:06] <ChogyDan> unless I answer the prompt.  But when I first ran into this, I was hitting esc to see errors, and that wiped the prompt.  So I had no idea what was going on at first
[17:06] <ChogyDan> bazhang: I tested for at least 20 minutes.  Im guessing permanent
[17:07] <bazhang> ChogyDan, the system pauses for 20 minutes during boot?
[17:07] <ChogyDan> bazhang: it never actually booted
[17:08] <bazhang> ChogyDan, what  is the "pause" you mention then
[17:10] <ChogyDan> bazhang: I call it a pause because there is a prompt requesting what to do with the mount points.  This prompt can get hidden, but if you answer it, boot continues.  So it is a prompt that pauses the boot process until answered.  (Now I know how to get past it)
[17:11] <shihan> hmm, anyone running bind as a slave on ubuntu server 12.04? anything special you had to do?
[17:12] <arabi> hello... i have installer LAMP on 12.10 where I can access it?
[17:12] <arabi> can anyone help?
[17:13] <ChogyDan> bazhang: nm, I guess the package is mountall: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mountall/+bug/571444
[17:14] <Biafra> arabi... it should be in /var/www
[17:16] <klaxtr> hi everyone, i have a hard time connecting to my wireless internet conection, it was working good till today is there a way to have a error log??
[17:20] <Peanut> Hi folks, just did an upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10, but now I end up in a 'grub rescue' that complains about 'file not found' Originally, root filesystem was on a intel software raid (md0). Any hints? I've tried googling, and several people seem to have run into this on the upgrade.
[17:21] <delinquentme> I'm looking inside a Makefile ... and im seeing file paths with double forward slashes ... such as -L$(libdir) -Wl,-R$(libdir) -L/home/ed/local//lib -Wl,-R/home/ed/local//lib
[17:21] <delinquentme> what does this do?
[17:22] <mrfunk> hello
[17:22] <Peanut> delinquentme: I don't think that does anything special, probably just a poorly written autoconf.
[17:22] <trism> delinquentme: probably nothing, when the makefile was created it probably did something like -L$prefix/lib where $prefix was /home/ed/local/ with a slash at the end
[17:22] <mrfunk> how can i join #wine without getting kciked?
[17:23] <bubu\a> hi guys - I want to use logrotate. Whats the difference in putting in an entry in /etc/logrotate.conf or creating it's own file in /etc/logrotate.d/ ? I want to rotate the logs daily/hourly
[17:23] <arabi> i have installed LAMP server on 12.10 .. now can i turn on mysql server
[17:23] <arabi> please help
[17:23] <mrfunk> yes you can
[17:24] <Bustacap> http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Latest_Version/Google_Apps
[17:24] <Bustacap> Oops wrong chat.
[17:24] <Bustacap> Sorry.
[17:24] <frokk> The "how to ask questions on IRC" article (a few links away from "IRC guidelines") should really be in the topic.
[17:24] <wols_> arabi: how do you know it's not already running after you have installed it?
[17:24] <mrfunk> anyone knows how to run furmark under wine? my system just crashed a few times and im trying to figure out what piece of hardware is failing
[17:24] <arabi> i don't anything
[17:25] <wols_> mrfunk: then don't run furmark but some other benchmark, a native one
[17:25] <wols_> !lamp
[17:25] <arabi> wols_ can you help?
[17:25] <wols_> !lamp > arabi
[17:25] <bazhang> !gq | frokk you mean this?
[17:26] <arabi> ok letme check it
[17:26] <mrfunk> wols_: would you please suggest one for me?
[17:26] <arabi> wols_ where is the message?
[17:26] <frokk> bazhang: yeah, that
[17:27] <Moogs> How do I reallocate harddrive space from a dual boot.  I want to take space from Ubuntu and move it to my Windows
[17:27] <wols_> mrfunk: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_opengl_prime&num=1
[17:28] <wols_> !lamp | arabi
[17:28] <bazhang> Moogs, gparted live cd you mean?
[17:28] <yeehi> I get an error trying to install apache and sqlite: http://pastebin.com/hBYzLL7z
[17:28] <Moogs> bazhang: I am not sure.  I created Ubuntu with 100 gb.  I realize that i only need about 30-40 GB.  Would like to send the 70-60 GB back to my windows 8
[17:29] <frokk> Moogs: what you want to do is called "partition resizing" or "volume resizing"
[17:29] <OpenBoxArch> Moogs: gparted
[17:30] <arabi> ubottu : I am learning mysql that is why i installer lamp
[17:30] <frokk> Moogs: you can't resize a volume you're running an OS off of, so most people use a LiveCD (run the OS off a flash drive or CD)
[17:30] <wols_> yeehi: FIRST error
[17:30] <ChogyDan> yeehi: that might be from a previous error
[17:30] <wols_> arabi: ubottu is a bot
[17:30] <pgdac> update-manager   gives an error  File "/usr/bin/update-manager", line 26, in <module> import pygtk
[17:30] <pgdac> ImportError: No module named pygtk
[17:30] <jrib> Moogs: pastebin your command and full output and use a pastebin that isn't covered in ads please :/
[17:31] <arabi> wols_ : ok
[17:31] <pgdac> how to fix this
[17:31] <rajmahendra> How can i check the name of the graphic card in my system ?
[17:31] <jrib> pgdac: and you have no idea why?
[17:31] <arabi> i have run !lamp but getting an error
[17:31] <OpenBoxArch> Moogs: livecd
[17:31] <yeehi> oh, ok thanks CHogyDan
[17:31] <Moogs> everyone.  i am not using a livecd.
[17:31] <wols_> Moogs: but you should
[17:32] <frokk> Moogs: we are telling you to use one :)
[17:32] <arabi> wols_ : arabi@interadez:~$ !lamp
[17:32] <arabi> bash: !lamp: event not found
[17:32] <OpenBoxArch> Moogs: burn livecd and gparted end of subject far to easy and saves time
[17:32] <jrib> rajmahendra: « lspci | grep -i vga » do what you want?
[17:32] <wols_> arabi: what is your exact problem? if you want to install a LAMP setup, ubotto gave you a link how to do it
[17:32] <jrib> pgdac: it's not a trick question
[17:32] <rajmahendra> jrib,  i want to install the vga driver  i have some issue when run secondlife
[17:32] <jrib> !drivers | rajmahendra
[17:33] <ChogyDan> arabi: sudo apt-get install lamp-server^
[17:33] <jrib> !nvidia | rajmahendra
[17:33] <arabi> ChoggyDan : I have run it... installation complete
[17:33] <jrib> yeehi: pastebin your command and full output and use a pastebin that isn't covered in ads please :/
[17:33] <pgdac> jrib:  Tell me to fix it if you know
[17:33] <rajmahendra> it shows "Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)
[17:33] <rajmahendra> "
[17:34] <jrib> pgdac: I need you to answer my questions before I can help you.
[17:34] <ThinkT510> pgdac: did you read the error?
[17:34] <bubu\a> hi guys - I want to use logrotate. Whats the difference in putting in an entry in /etc/logrotate.conf or creating it's own file in /etc/logrotate.d/ ? I want to rotate the logs daily/hourly
[17:34] <arabi> in windows there is a WAMP window ... where I can see running servers .. and visit the localhost page ... in linux how can i do that
[17:34] <pgdac> jrib: ThinkT510  : yes i opend that file , now what to edit there
[17:34] <rajmahendra> any idea where can i get the driver ?
[17:34] <jrib> pgdac: I didn't tell you to open any file.  I asked you a question.
[17:34] <wols_> arabi: you can visit localhost page just like win windows. there is no such panel in linux
[17:34] <llutz> arabi: start your browser, open "http://localhost"
[17:35] <frokk> bubu\a: I do not know, but that does seem like something you can google.
[17:35] <wols_> rajmahendra: you already have the driver. there exists only one and ubuntu is already using it by default
[17:35] <pgdac> jrib: Please repeat your question
[17:35] <yeehi> jrib - i tried again with synaptic and just selected sqlte - It installed but I got an different error: E: man-db: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[17:35] <Moogs> I got gparted loaded up but now it's not doing anything I cannot repartion to unused space to the unalocated area
[17:35] <Moogs> how do i do that
[17:35] <jrib> pgdac: and you have no idea why? you are getting that error?  You haven't done anything to python or something weird with your package system?
[17:35] <arabi> It works!
[17:35] <arabi> This is the default web page for this server.
[17:35] <arabi> The web server software is running but no content has been added, yet.
[17:35] <arabi> i am getting the above message...
[17:36] <jrib> yeehi: use apt-get
[17:36] <arabi> is it from LAMP?
[17:36] <rajmahendra> wols_, actually when i use 12.4 i can run a graphic based games on my system once i update my system to 12.10 the app is not working.
[17:36] <jrib> arabi: it's from your apache server, sure
[17:36] <wols_> Moogs: are you running from your installed ubuntu?
[17:36] <Moogs> wols_: yes
[17:36] <xangua> Moogs: you were already told to use a live cd...and backups are always good idea :)
[17:36] <llutz> arabi: yes, now you have to read apache- and mysql-dokumentation about configuring an d using it
[17:36] <pgdac> jrib: Actually this system is used by many people , so i have no idea what happens in my absence
[17:36] <arabi> then how can I acces mysqlserver ?
[17:36] <wols_> Moogs: you've been told time and again not to do that. we don't write that to spite you
[17:37] <yeehi> thanks, jrib - let me try that
[17:37] <wols_> arabi: install phpmyadmin
[17:37] <llutz> arabi: mysql -u <username> -p
[17:37] <DrCode> hi all
[17:37] <DrCode> how can I stop report combo in ubuntu?
[17:37] <DrCode> it pop up
[17:38] <frokk> Moogs: you can't resize the volume that the OS is running from, use a liveCD to resize that volume
[17:38] <Moogs> frokk: okay see you in a second.
[17:38] <frokk> probably not, I'm about to reboot to solve my own problem
[17:38] <arabi> llutz: i have run that..but i am getting the same message as from apache server
[17:38] <Kartagis> !xen
[17:38] <jrib> pgdac: that's fine.  You can still answer my question based on your experience.
[17:38] <arabi> wols_ where can I install phpmyadmin
[17:38] <llutz> arabi: never
[17:39] <arabi> is there any diffrent local host address for mysqlserver
[17:39] <OpenBoxArch> !xmonad
[17:39] <wols_> arabi: what is your actual problem?
[17:40] <jrib> OpenBoxArch: xmonad is in the repositories, you just install it and select it at the login window as your session
[17:40] <wols_> arabi: and you install phpmyadmin like any other pogram under ubuntu
[17:41] <OpenBoxArch> Multimonitor xmonad has to be the best Linux desktop experience ever” — josephkern apr 09
[17:41] <OpenBoxArch> “XMonad is by far the best Window Manager around. It's one of the reasons I stick with Linux.” — Tener, apr 09
[17:41] <soee> any idea wht can cause this error: AptanaStudio3: 5: AptanaStudio3: Syntax error: "(" unexpected ?
[17:41] <jrib> soee: you should say what you are doing to get that error.
[17:41] <arabi> wols_: sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin   is it enough?
[17:42] <OpenBoxArch> !Xmonad
[17:42] <soee> jrib, i just downloaded AptanaStudio3 and trugin to run it
[17:42] <gsnedders_web> Hi, suddenly my computer (booting through UEFI) is hitting "no suitable mode found; booting however" with nothing more happening as soon as we leave grub(2).
[17:42] <OpenBoxArch> !openbox
[17:42] <soee> *trying
[17:42] <wols_> OpenBoxArch: /msg ubottu <topic>   please don't spam the channel
[17:42] <jrib> OpenBoxArch: keep in mind this channel is for support.  If you want to discuss other things, please use #ubuntu-offtopic.  If you want to explore ubottu, please just private message him (/msg ubottu yourself)
[17:43] <jrib> soee: so how are you trying to run it?
[17:43] <OpenBoxArch> jrib: just seeing why the bot was not bringing up xmonad and yet xen.. thats all
[17:43] <jrib> OpenBoxArch: it's just because no one has created a factoid for it
[17:44] <gsnedders_web> Booting into live CD and then running update-grub doesn't appear to have made any difference, somewhat expectadly.
[17:44] <OpenBoxArch> jrib: figured that after punching in a few more tests. thanks :)
[17:44] <theadmin> !xmonad is <reply> xmonad is a tiling window manager written and configured in Haskell. For more information, refer to http://xmonad.org
[17:44] <soee> jrib, http://pastebin.com/cyGwqeDb
[17:44] <theadmin> OpenBoxArch: There we go. Next, please /msg the bot to check for something like that.
[17:44] <jrib> soee: don't do that.  Instead, make it executable and then do ./AptanaStudio3
[17:44] <Peanut> !loastlog gsnedders_web
[17:45] <arabi> thank you guys .. now I got what I am looking for
[17:45] <wols_> soee: check the first 5 lines then
[17:45] <OpenBoxArch> theadmin: never seen new you could msg the bot thank you. ;P
[17:46] <soee> jrib, works your way, app runs ok only in terminal i have small error message: Fontconfig warning: "/etc/fonts/conf.d/50-user.conf", line 9: reading configurations from ~/.fonts.conf is deprecated.
[17:46] <arabi> wols_ : bye
[17:46] <gsnedders_web> Peanut: Typo? (Given there was no prompt)
[17:46] <jrib> soee: that's just telling you that in the future your ~/.fonts.conf file will be ignored and you should move it to ~/.config/fontconfig/fonts.conf
[17:46] <Peanut> gsnedders_web: yes, typo - I was trying to see if you were struggling with the same problems I am (ending up in grub rescue after ugprade to 12.10)
[17:47] <Funhouse> Hi there,  how would I go about changing the owner for all folders named .svn within the root folder. like  sudo chown -R ubuntu folder_name
[17:47] <Snicers-Work2> I want to lock ALL users to a specific folder heirarchy for vsftp, is this possible?
[17:47] <gsnedders_web> Peanut: No, no release upgrade here; just latest 12.04 package updates
[17:47] <jrib> Funhouse: use find and -exec
[17:47] <Funhouse> jrib, ah ok great thank you trying now
[17:49] <navneeth> quit
[17:49] <navneeth> oops!
[17:49] <Guest93071> hola
[17:49] <Guest93071> hay alguien
[17:49] <Guest93071> ¡¡
[17:49] <Guest93071> ??
[17:50] <theadmin> !es | Guest93071
[17:50] <Moogs> how do you install a file downloaded from the net.  it is in tar.bz2 format
[17:50] <OpenBoxArch> Snicers-Work2: most ftp's allow you to only share data from specific foler...
[17:50] <jrib> Moogs: you avoid it.  What are you trying to install?
[17:50] <Moogs> firefox aurora
[17:51] <theadmin> Moogs: There's a ppa for that
[17:51] <Moogs> i set it to permission: file to execute
[17:51] <Snicers-Work2> OpenBoxArch: , currently the ftp is locking local users to their respective home folders, I want one folder for all users.
[17:51] <Moogs> so, what do i need to do?
[17:51] <theadmin> Moogs: Generally, Mozilla's tarballs are binary tarballs. You extract them, navigate to the folder and run the executable (ending in -bin) in them.
[17:51] <coz_> hey guys, up until 12.04, I would use this command to remove "recent docume ts"   python -c "import gtk; gtk.recent_manager_get_default().purge_items()".. it doesnt seem to work on 12.10, any suggestions for changing the command?
[17:52] <emes> I'm on a thinkpad t430s, and when I resume from sleep on 12.10 the sound stops working. didn't have this issue with 12.04. ideas?
[17:52] <mrfunk> wols_: i still havent figure out how to install it
[17:52] <theadmin> Moogs: However, if you want an app that's not in repositories, please first search the web for "<SUBJECT NAME HERE> ppa", so "firefox aurora ppa" in your case
[17:52] <theadmin> Moogs: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/firefox-aurora
[17:53] <unrar> Hy
[17:53] <OpenBoxArch> Moogs: you would have to compile that. Is that a older or newer version of firefox? tuxfiles.com instructions. I would highly not recommend doing this can cause problems in updates and upgrades.
[17:53] <astex> My brightness controls increment screen brightness by 4 instead of 1.  How do I fix this?
[17:54] <Moogs> newer, it's an alpha version of firefox.
[17:54] <Moogs> okay, well i will do that.  thanks.
[17:54] <theadmin> OpenBoxArch: That's not what mozilla's tarballs are. They provide portable binary tarballs with their applications. I think they're even statically linked.
[17:54] <navneeth> OpenBoxArch: I don't think you need to compile anything from the archive from Mozilla
[17:54] <OpenBoxArch> Moogs: Run Arch LInux
[17:55] <astex> OpenBoxArch: offtopic
[17:55] <theadmin> OpenBoxArch: No spam please. Suggesting other distributions in this channel is not welcome, unless they are an officially supported Ubuntu distribution.
[17:55] <hdb2> hey all, debian user here...just installed 12.04 for a friend's mom, and she wants/needs an interface "more like windows". is there something I can install that has good integration that's more of a "typical" desktop experience for a win user?
[17:55] <trism> coz_: strange, seems to still work here
[17:55] <theadmin> hdb2: KDE you mean :P
[17:55] <hdb2> theadmin: :)
[17:55] <astex> hb2: KDE
[17:55] <bazhang> !behelpful | OpenBoxArch
[17:56] <Axsuul> How would I restart monit if it crashes?
[17:56] <navneeth> hdb2: cinnamon! you can install it in Ubuntu,right?
[17:56] <hdb2> theadmin: I was hoping to stay in the gnome family, but I haven't kept up enough to know what's going on with that now...
[17:56] <theadmin> hdb2: Check http://kubuntu.org for prebuilt images of Ubuntu with KDE, I suggest you just use those if the install is fairly new and you can afford to reinstall.
[17:56] <MonkeyDust> navneeth  i have it, with a ppa
[17:56] <hdb2> navneeth: brilliant!!!  didn't think of that!
[17:56] <OpenBoxArch> theadmin: Not spam was recommending running alphas is best in Archlinux not to say Ubuntu is not a great distro.
[17:56] <astex> hdb2: also, gnome2 (MATE)
[17:56] <hdb2> astex: mate, even better!
[17:56] <bazhang> OpenBoxArch, please take the chit chat elsewhere
[17:56] <coz_> trism,  mm   I am also on gnome fallback which generall worked as well,, that may be the issue here
[17:56] <henshaw> mneptok: researching to file the 'tail -f' bug and think it might only happen on the live image (due to the overlayfs). did you test what 'tail -f' does on your system?
[17:56] <hdb2> many great suggestions, thanks everyone for getting me pointed in the right way!
[17:57] <astex> anyone know anything about my brightness problems?
[17:57] <arabi> i have installed phpmyadmin .. where i can open it?
[17:57] <astex>  brightness controls increment screen brightness by 4 instead of 1.  How do I fix this?
[17:58] <akis> hi all. i am running xubuntu 12.04. my daughter have to run a windows application: "microworlds pro". what do you suggest me to do? can i use wine? do i have to install windows on wine or there is the possibility to run this windows application on wine without install windows. i had never used before wine so it is for me 'terra icognita'. Help plz!
[17:59] <astex> there is no need to install wine, akis.  WINE contains many of the libraries of Windows allowing it to tun many windows programs without an actual install.
[17:59] <astex> akis: you should go ahead and try to install and run the program after installing wine
[17:59] <MonkeyDust> !appdb > akis
[18:00] <astex> wait...no need to install windows
[18:00] <armbar> Folks, just upgraded to quantal, got problems installing swi-prolog. Is this the right place to ask for help?
[18:00]  * astex typos on new keyboard
[18:00] <theadmin> armbar: Depends, is that in the repos? :P
[18:00] <OpenBoxArch> akis: how pressed on time are you to get this up and running?
[18:00] <leon1984> Excuse,when i type this command:"sudo apt-get install -f" the bash say "post-installation returned an error code (1),initramfs-tools have an error,E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)",what should i do ?
[18:01] <akis> astex: you mean that there is no need to install windows on wine, isn't it?
[18:01] <theadmin> !fixapt | leon1984
[18:01] <armbar> not much, just that it goes deep down to libgmp10 so it might be affecting some other packages too.
[18:01] <astex> akis: yes
[18:01] <theadmin> Err, wrong factoid, ignore that leon1984
[18:01] <theadmin> leon1984: Try "sudo dpkg-configure -a"
[18:02] <akis> OpenBoxArch: hmm. i don't have enough time. 1-2 days only -:(
[18:02] <armbar> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[18:02] <armbar>  libgmp-dev : Depends: libgmp10 (= 2:5.0.2+dfsg-2ubuntu2) but 2:5.0.5+dfsg-2 is to be installed
[18:02] <armbar> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[18:02] <theadmin> armbar: Hm... Do you have any unofficial repositories enabled? Correct that if so.
[18:03] <akis> astex: do i have just to install wine using ubuntu software center and then download and install the windows application?
[18:03] <astex> akis: that is more than enough time if the program happens to work at least decently on first attempt.  Otherwise, you should probably dual boot.  WINE can be...tempermental.
[18:03] <astex> akis: yes
[18:03] <genii-around> arabi: Usually if on the same machine, http://localhost/phpmyadmin
[18:03] <genii-around> !info libgmp10 precise
[18:04] <leon1984> theadmin,ubottu,theadmin,Thanks! I'm trying : )
[18:04] <astex> akis: you should search for your app at http://appdb.winehq.org/ to see if it will work well
[18:05] <OpenBoxArch> astex: hey playonlinux using wine seems to have changed. Whats the deal?
[18:06] <arabi> genii-around : i am getting error... phpmyadmin not in this server
[18:06] <dr_willis> i think they got their own wines OpenBoxArch
[18:06] <dr_willis> a wine celler.  ;-)
[18:06] <genii-around> arabi: You installed it from the Software Center, or with aptitude or apt-get, or some other way?
[18:07] <arabi> apt-get
[18:07] <arabi> genii-around : sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-auth-mysql phpmyadmin
[18:07] <arabi>   i have run this
[18:07] <akis> astex: i read already after some googling that the application works under ubuntu/wine. not 12.04 but older versions.
[18:08] <robbie> anyone play torchlight 2? I know its off topic but I just need the local_settings.txt file :)
[18:08] <astex> akis: the concern is usually wine.  not ubuntu.  if it works under older versions, then it will most likely work well on the current version
[18:08] <OpenBoxArch> dr_willis: hmmm... Last time been to that website the were a commercial company guess Playonlinux didnt take off...
[18:09] <astex> OpenBoxArch: isn't playonlinux mostly Steam games.  And isn't Steam releasing a linux version in like two weeks?
[18:09] <dr_willis> OpenBoxArch: never really used it or needed it. i recall some comercial wine called crossover  years ago.
[18:10] <theadmin> astex: playonlinux is just a nice way to manage wine apps
[18:10] <dr_willis> astex: its in beta testing now.
[18:10] <genii-around> arabi: Did you restart apache?
[18:10] <armbar> I had before, they are disabled. Now, interesting is that libgmp-dev wants to install libgmp10 2:5.0.2  when I do have libgmp10 2:5.0.5 already.  This is strange.
[18:11] <akis> astex: that makes me happy. have you ever used wine? what do i have to do after i installed it?
[18:11] <akis> OpenBoxArch: why?
[18:12] <alusion_> My print screen is configured to just search for ksnapshot instead of screen shotting >_> how do I change it?
[18:13] <genii-around> armbar: It's the particular version of " libgmp10 2:5.0.5"  that it wants is the issue: eg: 2:5.0.2+dfsg-2ubuntu1  is what's in the repository but: "<armbar>  libgmp-dev : Depends: libgmp10 (= 2:5.0.2+dfsg-2ubuntu2) but 2:5.0.5+dfsg-2 is to be installed"
[18:13] <OpenBoxArch> akis: Use to run playonlinux about 3 yrs ago and it supported apps as well as games. The site has changed 100% and doesn't list a demo any more.
[18:13] <alusion_> where do I find the actual package files? I wanna set printscreen to use shutter
[18:13] <robbie> how can I see the full titlebar text on a window that wont resize?
[18:13] <astex> akis: nothing.  wine just kind of works
[18:14] <Snicers-Work2> I set the local_root to the directory I want users locked into but they can still go closer to the root of the file system in vsftp, how do I restrict that?
[18:14] <genii-around> armbar: Which sort of indicates wherever it's getting it from doesn't have the ubuntu1 or ubuntu2 at the end and likely not an official repository
[18:14] <astex> akis: most of the time.  if not, try googling the program and see what other people have done to make it work.
[18:14] <robbie> how can I see the full titlebar text on a window that wont resize?
[18:14] <arabi> genii-around : no i didn't .. how can I do that
[18:15] <armbar> genii-around: so I it tells that libgmp-dev is not pointing to the right dependencies?
[18:17] <robbie> how can I see the full titlebar text on a window that wont resize?
[18:17] <arabi> genii-around : thanks .. now it is working :)
[18:19] <genii-around> armbar: What say result from: apt-cache policy  libgmp10
[18:19] <genii-around> arabi: You're welcome
[18:19] <robbie> how can I see the full titlebar text on a window that wont resize?
[18:19] <alsu> I'm trying to follow https://newrelic.com/docs/server/server-monitor-installation-ubuntu-and-debian
[18:20] <alsu> where do I get the "deb" command on Ubuntu 12.04?
[18:20] <armbar> libgmp10:
[18:20] <armbar>   Installed: 2:5.0.5+dfsg-2
[18:20] <armbar>   Candidate: 2:5.0.5+dfsg-2
[18:20] <armbar>   Version table:
[18:20] <armbar>  *** 2:5.0.5+dfsg-2 0
[18:20] <FloodBot1> armbar: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:20] <armbar>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[18:21] <Ar71k> Hello, im looking for some help with my wireless USB network adapter
[18:21] <genii-around> armbar: the 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status line tells us it was installed manually and not from ubuntu repositories
[18:22] <armbar> ups that looks quite bad
[18:23] <robbie> xwininfo !! thank god
[18:23] <genii-around> armbar: try:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install  libgmp10= 2:5.0.2+dfsg-2ubuntu2
[18:24] <VlanX> anyone remembers how to download a directory with WGET and the option to select the destination folder?
[18:24] <leon1984> Can i reinstall initramfs-tools? there is an error.
[18:25] <dniMretsaM> leon1984: what error?
[18:25] <huggy-bear> VlanX: http://txt.binnyva.com/2007/03/download-entire-folder-using-wget-command-in-linux/
[18:25] <dniMretsaM> and what version of Ubuntu
[18:26] <genii-around> VlanX: -P or --directory-prefix=       according to the manpage
[18:26] <huggy-bear> VlanX: the flag: -P ~/some/folder sets the destination
[18:26] <theadmin> alsu: deb is not a command, read the instructions you are following carefully.
[18:27] <leon1984> dniMretsaM@ When i type "sudo apt-get install -f" it say "post-installation returned error code 1,initramfs-tools have an error"
[18:27] <genii-around> leon1984: sudo apt-get install --reinstall initramfs-tools
[18:27] <armbar> genii-around: how can I replace it without reinstalling the world? (apt-get remove libgmp10 removes a ton of packages)
[18:28] <genii-around> leon1984: Or, the package is installed properly but trying to rebuild the initrd is giving some error causing it to fail
[18:28] <genii-around> armbar: I didn't tell you to remove anything.
[18:28] <VlanX> huggy-bear: thanks for your help, i'm now trying to understand how the recursive parameter works
[18:28] <dniMretsaM> leon1984: try "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get upgrade" again. had this yesterday and that fixed it
[18:29] <genii-around> armbar: the: sudo apt-get install libgmp10= 2:5.0.2+dfsg-2ubuntu2         should just overwrite the existing version
[18:29] <leon1984> genii-around@ It say "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)"
[18:29] <crqd> is there a way of shortening the notification ballon from gwibber? it stays up far too long and clicking it doesn't get rid of it
[18:29] <huggy-bear> VlanX: as you can see on the website, you can tell it with the -l or level flag how deep it will go. inf goes into all folder that are there, so, if you don't know what's in it and you want it all, use that.
[18:30] <unrar> Hi
[18:31] <BlauskaerM> Is there someone in here that is skilled with fluxbox?
[18:31] <huggy-bear> BlauskaerM: depends on what you need.
[18:31] <genii-around> leon1984: What result from: ls /var/cache/apt/archives/initramfs-tools*
[18:32] <VlanX> huggy-bear: so, provided the address is something like http://aaa/bbb/ccc/ddd; with level 2 i would download only /ccc and all its subdirectorIes?
[18:32] <genii-around> armbar: I put a space by accident between the "=" and the "2" in that command, make sure there is no space and try then
[18:32] <leon1984> genii-around@ "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1),dpkg:initramfs-tools (--configure) error"
[18:32] <BlauskaerM> huggy-bear: I'm using fluxbox on one of my old computers atm but the latest gnome ver has damaged my by moving the "close window", "maximize window size" etc to the left side. Is there a way to change this in flusbox aswell?
[18:32] <BlauskaerM> me*
[18:32] <genii-around> leon1984: That's not the answer to the question I asked
[18:33] <huggy-bear> VlanX:  well, if you give it that address, level 2 would go another 2 levels beyond /ddd.
[18:33] <unrar> One question: On Ubuntu 12.04 with GNOME Shell, it's really good with nouveau, but when I install a NVIDIA driver it gets slow!!
[18:33] <unrar> Is it normal?
[18:33] <leon1984> genii-around@ It say no file
[18:33] <huggy-bear> BlauskaerM: i don't think that gnome can do that to fluxbox. let me check something, it's been a while... it's easy as pie to set that up, just need to check things...
[18:34] <dniMretsaM> leon1984: did you try what I suggested?
[18:34] <BlauskaerM> huggy-bear: I think you missunderstand me
[18:34] <crqd> gconftool-2 --set "/apps/metacity/general/button_layout" --type string "menu:minimize,maximize,close"
[18:34] <BlauskaerM> huggy-bear: I just want to move the close window buttons to the left side on fluxbox
[18:35] <BlauskaerM> huggy-bear: But nm, I think I found it
[18:35] <huggy-bear> BlauskaerM: oh, ok.
[18:35] <leon1984> dniMretsaM@ yes,i am tryed  It say the same error
[18:35] <BlauskaerM> huggy-bear: Thanks anyway :)
[18:35] <huggy-bear> BlackPanx: np :)
[18:35] <crqd> flux probably uses gtk, and it inherits it from gnome that way
[18:35] <Ar71k> I really need some help connecting my 12.04 box to the internet
[18:36] <dniMretsaM> leon1984: put the entire error in a pastebin and link it here
[18:36] <crqd> the reason why
[18:36] <alo21> hi all
[18:36] <llutz> BlauskaerM: http://fluxbox-wiki.org/index.php?title=Window_Buttons
[18:36] <huggy-bear> crqd: i don't think so.
[18:36] <alo21> what program can I use to upload translations file for LP?
[18:37] <Ar71k> i've installed the driver associated with my USB network adapter and ndiswrapper is showing its installed and the device is present
[18:37] <crqd> i was wrong, i thought everyone except kde used gtk :P
[18:37] <Ar71k> but i cannot get it to detect networks
[18:37] <crqd> like x/l
[18:37] <Snicers-Work2> should I user virtual users for vsftp?
[18:38] <dubac0> how do i see if a site is down via terminal?
[18:38] <Ar71k> when i do "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper" it returns "FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found"
[18:38] <Ar71k> ping <site>
[18:38] <llutz> Snicers-Work2: if you want to chroot them, yes
[18:38] <leon1984> dniMretsaM@ I found it,"gzip: stdout: No space left on device"
[18:39] <trism> Ar71k: ndiswrapper is not included in the kernel by default anymore, you must install ndiswrapper-dkms to build it (which can be a bit difficult without network access)
[18:40] <llutz> !msg ubottu info gcc-arm-linux-gnueabihf
[18:40] <llutz> grr
[18:41] <trism> Ar71k: though on 12.10 you will probably be blocked by bug 1023645
[18:41] <Ar71k> trism: i've downloaded ndiswrapper-common_1.57_1ubuntu1_all.deb should i remove that first?
[18:42] <Ar71k> trism: i mistakenly said 12.10 im actually 12.04
[18:42] <crqd> what card are you using?
[18:42] <Ar71k> crqd: its a netgear N300
[18:42] <trism> Ar71k: no you don't need to remove that, you just need ndiswrapper-dkms, the linux-headers for your kernel and dkms (plus any dkms deps not already installed)
[18:43] <Ar71k> ill grab it now
[18:43] <crqd> those warnings about ndis being unstable isn't very nice looking though
[18:43] <genii-around> leon1984: What version of Ubuntu are you on, and is it 32 or 64 bit? If unsure, report result of: uname -a     and: cat /etc/issue
[18:45] <TigaTerla> Hi everybody , someone can help me? I want to change the default wallpaper all new user in the system ( sorry for my english)
[18:45] <Ar71k> trism: other than connecting via Ethernet, is there an easy way to find out what im missing other than the ndiswrapper-dkms?
[18:45] <leon1984> genii-around@ 3.2.0-29-generic #46-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jul 27 17:03:23 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[18:46] <leon1984> genii-around@ Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS \n \l
[18:46] <robbie> ive been having netowkr issues and I am noticing that it drops more often when I am playing music .. I think it might be related to UPNP
[18:48] <robbie> ive been having network issues and I am noticing that it drops more often when I am playing music on Rhythmbox .. I think it might be related to UPNP?
[18:48] <trism> Ar71k: apt-cache policy linux-headers-$(uname -r); should tell you if you already have the headers, dkms is here http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/dkms, gcc should be installed by default but I don't know about make and patch
[18:48] <trism> Ar71k: I unfortunately don't know a nice way to get a list of everything you need
[18:49] <Ar71k> trism: after installing the dkms, what would be the proper next step to testing if it worked?
[18:49] <TechnodicT_> Any suggestions for a product designing software on ubuntu.?
[18:50] <trism> Ar71k: check: dkms status; to see if it is installed for your kernel
[18:50] <TechnodicT_> [00:19] (TechnodicT_) Any suggestions for a product designing software on ubuntu.?
[18:50] <laserfandango> What X server and client is the NExus 7 version of Ubuntu running?
[18:51] <wilee-nilee> TechnodicT_, This is support, if you had a specific goal you might get help otherwise polling the channel is off topic
[18:52] <guybrush> Hi every one, i have a problem when booting, i use a sdcard to boot from, and after a short while i get a terminal with: initramfs,,, what to do?
[18:52] <Ar71k> trism: i've done the modprobe, and a iwconfig. It looks like its starting to work
[18:52] <trism> Ar71k: excellent
[18:54] <leon1984> genii-around@ When i type "update&&upgrade" the error is : http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8327/8135851661_7ffac40621_b.jpg
[18:54] <ratbert90> Hey does anybody know of a program to read information being sent to a serial port?
[18:54] <ratbert90> I have a device that I need verified and it *should* be sending temp and direction through the rs232 port
[18:54] <Peanut> ratbert90: minicom is a terminal emulater, is that what you're looking for?
[18:55] <Peanut> (emulator rather)
[18:55] <Ar71k> trism: its detected my network but cannot connect, im gona try to restart. Are there any suggestions as to another issue it could be?
[18:55] <ratbert90> Peanut, no no.  This is a device connected a embedded system.  I am using GTKterm to connect to the board, and I need a program that could read the information the camera is sending through RS232
[18:55] <TechnodicT_> Compiz crashing a lot on 12.10 any sugestions?
[18:56] <trism> Ar71k: not really sure, been a while since I used ndiswrapper myself
[18:56] <Evdb> Hye guys, quick little question, in which specific line do I need to add the boor parameters, and where in that line?
[18:56] <Ar71k> trism: no worries, thanks a heap for your help mate. i think i'll give it a few more goes.
[18:56] <Peanut> ratbert90: do you want the data just in a file, or a program that is able to understand the specific data format that your device is dumping on RS232?
[18:56] <MonkeyDust> what's boor?
[18:57] <Evdb> Haha I meant boot typo sorry
[18:57] <ratbert90> Peanut, hopefully clean terminal output would be preferred
[18:58] <Evdb> So MonkeyDust can you help me?
[18:58] <genii-around> leon1984: So:  cd && mkdir initramfs && cd initramfs && wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/b/busybox/busybox-initramfs_1.18.5-1ubuntu4_amd64.deb && wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/i/initramfs-tools/initramfs-tools-bin_0.99ubuntu13_amd64.deb &&  wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/module-init-tools/module-init-tools-udeb_3.16-1ubuntu2_amd64.deb && wget http://archive.ubuntu.
[18:58] <genii-around> com/ubuntu/pool/main/i/initramfs-tools/initramfs-tools_0.99ubuntu13_all.deb     then: sudo dpkg -i busybox-initramfs_1.18.5-1ubuntu4_amd64.deb  && sudo dpkg -i initramfs-tools-bin_0.99ubuntu13_amd64.deb && sudo dpkg -i initramfs-tools_0.99ubuntu13_all.deb
[18:58] <wilee-nilee> Evdb, /etc/default/grub is the file for adding parameters once added run a update-grub
[18:58] <Peanut> ratbert90: then why wouldn't minicom suffice, if ou want terminal output?
[18:59] <Evdb> wilee-nilee yeah but I mean in the grub menu sorry
[18:59] <Evdb> wilee-nilee I just need to know which line (when i press 'e') and where in that line
[18:59] <Phibs> is there any way to change to 1000HZ vs 100 in the kernel ?
[19:00] <wilee-nilee> Evdb, In the menu you would hit e and navigate to the line where you see quiet and add it, if you want it permanent then the file I posted.
[19:00] <genii-around> leon1984: You're out of room in the /boot directory
[19:00] <Peanut> Phibs: generally, recompile the kernel with the setting you want
[19:01] <Phibs> Peanut: was wondering if the 'lowlatency' image did that
[19:01] <genii-around> leon1984: Forget the earlier instructions about manually getting the files, and instead the result of:    df -h
[19:01] <Peanut> No, 'lowlatency' means high resolution timers and probably an interruptable kernel.
[19:01] <Evdb> wilee-nilee and does it matter where in that line? And should I only add stuff or also delete stuff?
[19:02] <AlexNagy> does anyone know who originally wrote tk-wrapper?
[19:02] <AlexNagy> erm, wrong chan
[19:02] <t0astcfh> hello all. im having an issue with Archive manager and would like to know if there is a way to debug it. Its not allowing me to add files to an archive and giving "
[19:02] <Phibs> Peanut: ok
[19:02] <wilee-nilee> Evdb, Depends on what your adding is the real question, anything done there is not permanent so you can do it without any damage.
[19:03] <Evdb> wilee-nilee okay thanks I'll try some stuff out!
[19:03] <wilee-nilee> Evdb, The important thing here is details not vague questions.
[19:03] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[19:03] <Benxyzzy> Is there still much of a use for CompizConfig Settings Manager in 12.04? I still have it installed from way back in 10.04, back when Ubuntu shipped without a proper settings dashboard for some reason. Here's hoping that 12.04 provides CCSM's functionality now and I can remove it...
[19:04] <wilee-nilee> Benxyzzy, ccsm is the desktop manager for unity
[19:04] <leon1984> genii-around@ It say 404 not found
[19:05] <Peanut> I have a system with Intel Matrix RAID in the BIOS, which is supported by Ubuntu. Now I'm trying the rescue CD because my upgrade to 12.10 failed, but the rescue CD recognises the raid as /dev/mapper/isw_<long_string>, but does not offer me the option to use it as my root filesystem for the rescue. How can I trick the rescue image into doing that?
[19:05] <Benxyzzy> wilee-nilee: Really? I thought it was an optional extra to install, and I've read lots of places saying it's dangerous
[19:05] <genii-around> leon1984: "404 not found" is a web problem. I require the result of: df -h
[19:05] <alone> there is yankies here ?
[19:05] <crqd> Benxyzzy, they removed all the fancy things from it like desktop cube so there's not much point
[19:05] <genii-around> alone: As well as every other nationality
[19:05] <wilee-nilee> Benxyzzy, unity is a plugin in ccsm it all sists on top of gnome 3 in 12.04, dangerous hardly.
[19:05] <wilee-nilee> sits*
[19:06] <crqd> compiz is the wm, ccssm is just the settings editor
[19:06] <crqd> like gconf
[19:06] <wilee-nilee> crqd, Not true the cube and other cutom settings are still there.
[19:06] <tacomaster> what is the purple background with the orange dots that light up and go back to white untill the lightdm loads?
[19:06] <wilee-nilee> custom*
[19:06] <alone> genii-around: there is anybodys from new-york* ;D 'cause I see that it's shit
[19:06] <Benxyzzy> wilee-nilee: http://askubuntu.com/questions/80589/what-are-some-of-the-issues-with-ccsm-and-why-should-i-not-use-it
[19:07] <genii-around> alone: That's not a support question, please ask in #ubuntu-offtopic, without the profanity
[19:07] <wilee-nilee> Benxyzzy, Notice the date on that post and 11.10, that has nothing to do with 12.04
[19:07] <alone> genii-around: ...
[19:08] <Peanut> I cannot even mount it from the CLI in rescue: I have /dev/mapper/isw_<long_string>, but I need to mount /dev/mapper/isw_<long_string>p1 for my root fs (the full disk is listed in /dev/mapper, but its partitions aren't - but I can see them with fdisk)
[19:08] <leon1984> genii-around@ df -h,The /boot was full,and another was 95% used
[19:08] <genii-around> alone: They are actually discussing that in there right now
[19:08] <Benxyzzy> wilee-nilee: So in answer to my original question then, between 11.10 and 12.04 ccsm has gone from a desktop-destroying 'advanced tool' to a bone-fide integrated piece of the system?
[19:08] <crqd> just launched ccsm and no desktop cube or wobly window for instance
[19:09] <genii-around> leon1984: Yes. You need to make more room on /boot ( at least )  and probably on the rest as well
[19:09] <wilee-nilee> Benxyzzy, THe dangerous is one I say one persons opinion and a bad one.
[19:09] <genii-around> alone: eg:  /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:10] <wilee-nilee> Benxyzzy, If it was so dangerous why would canonical have it part of there main desktop.
[19:10] <yellabs> any one using ubuntu on an asus transformer ?
[19:10] <crqd> it isn't in the default, you need to install
[19:10] <leon1984> genii-around@ Ok,thank you very much :)
[19:11] <wilee-nilee> yellabs, Post your problem, polling for users is a waste of time.
[19:11] <yellabs> its not a poll , thanks
[19:11] <Benxyzzy> wilee-nilee: The OP suggests it is not one opinion, and I was hoping for a better reasoning for CCSM's improvement than "trust Canonical"
[19:12] <brontosaurusrex> Benxyzzy: most of us are just users as well, or did you expect a hot debate?
[19:12] <theadmin> yellabs: Ubuntu doesn't really do ARM...
[19:12] <theadmin> yellabs: So just stay with Android for now
[19:12] <Phibs> theadmin: really? How is it on the nexus 7 then :)
[19:12] <wilee-nilee> Benxyzzy, Well never had a problem here, but I know how ccsm works. It is nopt a matter of trusting Canonical, it is not getting caught up in confirmation bias from a post.
[19:12] <yellabs> ah , you are right
[19:12] <Benxyzzy> brontosaurusrex: What makes you say that?
[19:12] <theadmin> Phibs: Must be some special, maybe even non-official port
[19:12] <Phibs> nod
[19:13] <brontosaurusrex> Benxyzzy: mz keyboard
[19:13] <brontosaurusrex> my*
[19:13] <Pici> !arm
[19:13] <theadmin> Phibs: And I'm talking about <s>serious</s> official buisness here
[19:13] <Benxyzzy> wilee-nilee: Several posts. And I don't know what I believe yet, hence why I'm asking here. You've clarified a lot for me, thanks
[19:14] <Phibs> theadmin: oh snap dawg
[19:15] <Benxyzzy> lol, just fired it up for the first time in ages: "This tool allows you to deeply configure Compiz's settings. Some options may be incompatible with each other. Unless used with care, it is possible to be left with an unusable desktop."
[19:16] <yellabs> hmm, xchat cant scroll
[19:16] <yellabs> because no scroll bar
[19:16] <devish> neither irssi
[19:16] <Troy^> I'm using weechat atm
[19:17] <yellabs> sounds cool, weechat
[19:17] <Troy^> yellabs: similiar to irssi with a different layout of things.
[19:18] <yellabs> i see
[19:19] <yellabs> ?
[19:19] <yellabs> Adolescence problem ?
[19:22] <yellabs> be back in a minute
[19:24] <yellabs> alright
[19:25] <yellabs> seems that xchat got an bug, due to ubuntu patches
[19:25] <brontosaurusrex> i have one that can scroll and has the ctrl ++ and ctrl +- for font size
[19:29] <Evdb> Hey Wilee-nilee everything worked out and after the big problems I've had Ubuntu is running great again!
[19:31] <wilee-nilee> cool Evdb,
[19:32] <[TiZ]> So, displaylink. What do I have to do to make it work on Quantal?
[19:33] <bassna> hello. could anybody help me with getting a program to install correct?
[19:35] <wilee-nilee> bassna, What is the program?
[19:35] <bassna> projectm
[19:36] <VlanX> is it possible to have a program or a widged that blinks whenever a write o read have been made on your hard drive?
[19:36] <bassna> lol?
[19:37] <bassna> you must be one angry fat kid to just be sitting in here waiting to make fun of people lol
[19:37] <Safa_[A_boy]> hello, I have a problem when I copy from my flash, an error dialog come and say "Error splicing file: Input/output error", what to do?
[19:38] <bassna> need friends man?
[19:38] <Bernd187> what should I use in a chroot => "mount -t proc /proc /mnt/chroot/proc"  vs "mount -o bind /proc /mnt/chroot/proc" ?
[19:38] <d1gital> Where can I go to check the development status of a particular package?  For example, I want to know when apache 2.2.23 will be available in the repos.
[19:40] <genii-around> Bernd187: Also dev and sys
[19:40] <bassna> wilee-nilee i tried to install it, but it doesnt open i guess
[19:40] <llutz> Bernd187: the 1st, bind not needed
[19:40] <[TiZ]> So would I be correct in guessing that displaylink is only going to work in linux once it's not necessary anymore?
[19:40] <Bernd187> genii-around & llutz, thx so first one
[19:41] <[TiZ]> I'm kind of hacked off. These devices have been around for a very, very long time. Windows 7 handles them flawlessly. Compositing, desktop effects, everything. Meanwhile, over here, we have to hand-craft an xorg.conf just to have a displaylink monitor on the same desktop, and even then, no compositing or even acceleration.
[19:43] <David-A> VlanX: xosview can and I think gkrellm can too, and probably others (blink or idicate hd activity among other things)
[19:44] <Safa_[A_boy]> :'(
[19:46] <chrmhoffmann> linaro
[19:48] <guybrush> Hi every one, i have a problem when booting, i get a strange terminal output initramfs,,, what to do? i used another sdcard that is lower read/write speed, and that did work....
[19:49]  * chrmhoffmann blushes. sorry.
[19:52] <steve___> is it possible to use tuxedo ntfs instead of ntfs-3g in ubuntu? is it free?
[19:53] <steve___> sorry no offence, but what's that suppose to mean?
[19:55] <llutz> steve___: tuxerea-ntfs you mean? that's afaik MAC-stuff
[19:55] <bergersen> Having some trouble booting Ubuntu after install... it never loads GRUB, just jumps right back into Windows 7! Kinda new at this :( I have multiple HDDs, and install Ubuntu on a separate drive...
[19:56] <bkfitz> Can someone help me figure out why UFW is not enabling by default on reboot... I've set ENABLED=yes within /etc/ufw/ufw.conf
[19:56] <bjrohan> I am not able to get ffmpeg working correctly, either via the package manager, or by following the guide here: https://ffmpeg.org/trac/ffmpeg/wiki/UbuntuCompilationGuide I have removed both the package and the compilation guide. ANy help in getting ffmpeg working is greatly appreciated
[19:57] <bekks> bjrohan: What do you mean by "working properly"?
[19:57] <cap10morgan> In 12.04, does the /usr/lib/jvm/default-java symlink no longer get created?
[19:57] <steve___> llutz: i meant tuxera,  yes...  i just read this http://www.tuxera.com/products/tuxera-ntfs-embedded/performance/
[19:58] <bkfitz> And I do have a file that exists in /etc/init.d/ called ufw
[19:58] <bkfitz> so I assume that means startup on boot
[19:58] <bjrohan> So that when I open a file in say Kdenlive, OpenShot, or WINFF, I can export it to, avi, mov, mpeg4, etc. it only let's me output to ogg
[19:58] <brontosaurusrex> bjrohan: the usual way is to compile latest git or find some up to date ppa
[19:59] <bjrohan> I followed the instructions for Ubuntu here: https://ffmpeg.org/trac/ffmpeg/wiki/UbuntuCompilationGuide
[20:00] <brontosaurusrex> bjrohan: that looks good to me
[20:00] <akSeya> hello ^^
[20:01] <bjrohan> brontosaurusrex: it was a no go. Could this be perhaps because I did it in my home directory, so said programs couldn't find it, even with a symlink?
[20:01] <akSeya> folks, i have just made a upgrade here, now looks like ubuntu is ignoring the systray-whitelist from dconf
[20:01] <akSeya> i'm missing some icons on systray, how can I enable it again?
[20:01] <insulina> hello, I have a ubuntu server, afther installing nagios3, the server know dont let me access to public pages without auth http://autoprobadtm.cge.uevora.pt/maps/ , how can I remove this and nagios? the service seems to continue there even after I remove it with apt-get, thanks
[20:01] <brontosaurusrex> bjrohan: they may be tied to their version
[20:02] <WeThePeople> is there a better option than alsamixer, the volume is to sensitive
[20:03] <bjrohan> brontosaurusrex: as I have no ffmpeg installed, do you think I shuould go with the one in the stock ppa, and add in the libav53 extras?
[20:04] <brontosaurusrex> bjrohan: no idea. i just use it from cli
[20:04] <bjrohan> brontosaurusrex: Gotcha
[20:06] <pero_p> #list
[20:06] <VlanX> David-A:  gkrellm is ridicolously awesome!!!
[20:07] <backbox> what up people
[20:08] <David-A> VlanX: you don't think it's too much? tried conky? or screenlets?
[20:08] <backbox> Hi there every one
[20:08] <backbox> say hi
[20:08] <WeThePeople> david-a, conky takes some know how to program
[20:09] <bekks> WeThePeople: Not at all.
[20:09] <bekks> It only takes someknow how on how to use an editor to configure the configuration file.
[20:10] <David-A> well, you may need to know how to google
[20:10] <WeThePeople> yeah, conky is easy :)
[20:14] <dr_willis> conky old school. now they addeded stuff thats beyond me to it.
[20:15] <VlanX> David-A: i actually do have screenlets, but i don't think i can do that
[20:15] <VlanX> David-A: do you think it'll be too much cpu expensive?
[20:16] <dr_willis> conky i would think is less cpu hungry then screenlets
[20:16] <dr_willis> bbl
[20:16] <David-A> VlanX: no worries for the cpu, too much christmas-tree on the screen, for you eyes
[20:17] <VlanX> David-A: i'm planning to buy a 23" full HD monitor, so the hell :D
[20:20] <crowfax> hi guys, i feel like i've contracted a case of the stupid. can somene tell me how the hell to enable OEM mode in the 12.10 installer?
[20:20] <David-A> VlanX: 23", even worse then, hope you are not sensitive to epelepsy
[20:22] <VlanX> lol
[20:22] <crowfax> do i take it to mean no one knows?
[20:23] <Danon> There trashing our rights man! There trashing the flow of data!
[20:23] <limpc> hi, I've been upgrading my ubuntu since 11.04, and my HD recently died right as 12.10 was released.  So I got a SSD and installed 12.10 on it.  However, I have not had any luck getting ATI's drivers to work with it since.  I have a Radeon HD6700.  It was working fine in 11.10, but wasnt as fast since 12.04 and I cant get it to install correctly at all in 12.10 -
[20:23] <limpc> im only able to use the opensource version which sucks.
[20:24] <crowfax> anyone? no. awesome.
[20:24] <crowfax> it's weird, google doesn't have the answer either
[20:24] <brontosaurusrex> !oem
[20:25] <brontosaurusrex> !automate
[20:25] <limpc> has anyone else had trouble with ATI drivers in 12.10?
[20:25] <mirak_> hi
[20:26] <mirak_> I want to install a package version from quantal on my precise. What is the best way to do that ?
[20:27] <crowfax> i've been to all those pages, and unless i'm going blind, none of them reference the 12.10 installer
[20:27] <jrib> !backport | mirak_
[20:28] <mirak_> jrib, what is he saying here ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/precise-backports/+bug/1016972
[20:28] <jrib> mirak_: who is "he"?
[20:28] <mirak_> jrib, he talks about backport, but it's not yet integrated ?
[20:28] <mirak_> ok it's undecided
[20:29] <Aristide> Hi !
[20:29] <mirak_> jrib, the guy in the launchpad thread
[20:29] <orogor> hi
[20:29] <Aristide> In /dev/ I have two CD Drives : /dev/sr0 and /dev/sr1 (firt is out of service internal CD Drive, and second external CD Drive).
[20:29] <Aristide> Ok
[20:30] <orogor> i upgraded to 10.12 my boot pocess is stuck
[20:30] <Aristide> When I start to format CD RW, /dev/sr1 disappear oo'
[20:30] <ghostnik11> is lenovo ideapad yoga 13 compatible with Ubuntu, meaning will ubuntu work on it, here is what it looks like: http://liliputing.com/2012/10/lenovo-ideapad-yoga-now-available-for-999.html
[20:30] <Aristide> x)
[20:30] <Aristide> and /dev/sr2 appear :/
[20:30] <orogor> is there a place to report such bugs on irc?
[20:30] <mirak_> jrib, hi will install this packages https://launchpad.net/~trekcaptainusa-tw/+archive/build-tests/+build/3600637
[20:30] <mirak_> for now
[20:30] <jrib> mirak_: he's basically repeating the conversation we just had.  The package exists in quantal, you can try to backport it if it hasn't been yet
[20:31] <mirak_> jrib, it's not, I will just take the packages from quantal. Or install quantal repo and see what happens
[20:32] <crowfax> ah well, guess it can't be done in 12.10 then
[20:32] <jrib> mirak_: um, why are you ignoring the advice given to you?
[20:32] <jrib> mirak_: if you enable the quantal repo, you're likely going to end up with a broken install
[20:33] <mrfunk> hello, i need a way to check out my system temperatures and also a way to benchmark it because its has been failing lately and i am quite sure that it is hardware related
[20:35] <mirak_> jrib, i don't ignore the advice, i was asking the best way to install the package from quantal. I know i can force apt to default on precise, even if there are quantal repos along precise, but yes i must be carrefull with the dependencies
[20:35] <jrib> mirak_: well the advice is for you to backport the package.
[20:35] <mirak_> jrib, i just needed a refresh on how to do it, because i forgot
[20:35] <jrib> mirak_: not to enable quantal repositories...
[20:35] <duncan> Anyone can help me get dualboot with windose 7 back?
[20:36] <mirak_> jrib, you agree that it's more complicated to backport
[20:36] <aoeui`> where the fuck is the 12.10 x32 ISO checksum on ubuntu.com? Has anyone ever found something on that page?
[20:36] <jrib> mirak_: no.
[20:36] <DaemonicApathy> !language | aoeui
[20:36] <aoeui`> where the heck?
[20:36] <jrib> !md5sums | aoeui`
[20:36] <mirak_> jrib, i have to rebuild the packages from quantal right ?
[20:36] <jrib> mirak_: yes
[20:36] <David-A> duncan: is win7 still in its partitions on the harddisk, so only fix booting it, or you need to install win7?
[20:36] <DaemonicApathy> aoeui: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[20:37] <DaemonicApathy> Oops, already got that, nvm.
[20:37] <julius_> hi
[20:37] <mirak_> jrib, ok that's doable. I remember there was an option to set when building, but that's really far away.
[20:37] <jrib> mirak_: you should grab the source packages and rebuild them.  There's some tool that automates the backport process too if you prefer.  It should be referenced on the wiki.  It's called "prevu" iirc
[20:37] <julius_> says here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/jetty            that jetty is version 6.x in ubuntu. but theres already a jetty 9.x - will it ever be updated?
[20:37] <aoeui`> ubottu: David-A: thanks. "very easy" to find and easily accessible from the download area
[20:38] <mirak_> jrib, anyway i need to add quantal repos to get the source package
[20:38] <David-A> i'm no bot, but don't think I'm intelligent either :)
[20:38] <jrib> mirak_: sure, the deb-src lines
[20:39] <mirak_> jrib, yeah right
[20:39] <duncan> David-A: can I msg you? it's so noisy in here. I think the install is intact, all the files seem to be there. It must be something I did with the MBR.
[20:39] <trism> mirak_: just install ubuntu-dev-tools and pull-lp-source source_package quantal; (you can also use backportpackage)
[20:39] <trism> mirak_: not need to add quantal repos
[20:39] <David-A> duncan: pleas msg
[20:40] <DaemonicApathy> duncan, have you tried running update-grub from Ubuntu?
[20:41] <mirak_> trism, ok
[20:41] <duncan> DaemonicApathy: could that help? it's booting fine into linux, so why wouldn't it work for windows?
[20:42] <mirak_> trism, i don't like a lot to install dev packages
[20:43] <mirak_> trism, it bloats a bit the system
[20:44] <mirak_> trism, if i want to fix a default distribution, should i put precise, precise-updates ?
[20:44] <mirak_> precise-security ?
[20:44] <mirak_> wich order are they ?
[20:44] <DaemonicApathy> duncan: depends on why Win7 isn't being recognized. If the boot entry was just mixed up, updating grub can find it again sometimes.
[20:44] <trism> mirak_: --no-install-recommends can help, or just dpkg-dev and go to launchpad to get the .dsc and tar files, though you will still need some dev packages to do the rebuild
[20:44] <Adam__> hello
[20:45] <trism> mirak_: I'm not sure what you mean
[20:45] <Adam__> how add windows on grub when i have 3 phisical HDD - #1 - grub+ubuntu, #2 - /home, #3 windows 7
[20:46] <mirak_> trism, in apt you can set the prefered version. Wich allows to add quantal repos, and install just the necessary packages from quantal
[20:46] <mirak_> without marking everything as to update
[20:46] <trism> mirak_: yes but I am not talking about adding quantal repos at all
[20:46] <duncan> DaemonicApathy: ok, worth a try I guess. Can you point me to a quick run down on the commands? not something i do very often.
[20:47] <DaemonicApathy> "update-grub" in a terminal, duncan
[20:47] <DaemonicApathy> No quotes.
[20:48] <duncan> DaemonicApathy: oh, that worked fine. Usually I think it's a pain working with grub. I'll reboot in a mo and see if anything has changed.
[20:50] <mirak_> trism, ok thanks. I even forgot i had my own ppa by the way ^^
[20:51] <Adam__> how add windows on grub when i have 3 phisical HDD - #1 - grub+ubuntu, #2 - /home, #3 windows 7
[20:51] <trism> mirak_: with your ppa you can do
[20:51] <mirak_> yep i will upload them there
[20:52] <trism> mirak_: backportpackage -u ppa:user/ppa package_name; and it should mostly do it for you
[20:52] <DaemonicApathy> Adam__: run "dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc" and select which drives you want grub on.
[20:52] <mirak_> trism, i had to to pbuilder create
[20:53] <mirak_> trism, but yeah
[20:53] <marsje> my friend just upgraded from ubuntu server 10.04 to 12.04 and now it seems his dns settings are wrong... how can I see what is the current dns-server? how can I change it?
[20:54] <Adam__> DaemonicApathy: grub2-common can be?
[20:54] <Adam__> i don't have grub-pc
[20:54] <mirak_> trism, jrib, thanks to you guys i am rediscovering the joys of building hahaha
[20:54] <MonkeyDust> marsje  there's also #ubuntu-server
[20:54] <Adam__> i can't recovfigure it
[20:54] <DaemonicApathy> Adam__: I believe that is fine, but play around with it.
[20:55] <Adam__> # dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc
[20:55] <Adam__> Package `grub-pc' is not installed and no info is available.
[20:55] <marsje> MonkeyDust: true, but I think it's not ubuntu server specific... but I'll  check
[20:55] <Adam__> # dpkg-reconfigure grub
[20:55] <Adam__> grub2-common        grub-common         grub-efi            grub-efi-amd64      grub-efi-amd64-bin
[20:57] <Adam__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1316336/
[20:57] <Adam__> but it didnt installed windows in boot
[20:58] <DaemonicApathy> I'm not an expert on grub, but unless someone else has a better idea, I'd suggest installing grub-pc, Adam__.
[20:59] <Adam__> DaemonicApathy: i have grub2
[21:00] <DaemonicApathy> Me too.
[21:00] <erncic> Adam__ : this may help you http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1673788
[21:02] <Adam__> DaemonicApathy: grub2 dont have grub-pc
[21:04] <Adam__> i can't belive that is so hard :/
[21:04] <Adam__> why can't it just work
[21:06] <wilee-nilee> Adam__, Grub 2 has grub-pc
[21:06] <Adam__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1316363/
[21:06] <Adam__> i dont have
[21:06] <Adam__> on clear install ubuntu
[21:06] <Adam__> few days ago
[21:06] <FloodBot1> Adam__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:07] <wilee-nilee> Adam__, If you are running a efi setup there is very little help here I would use the ubuntu forum, and run a bootscript.
[21:07] <VLanX> anyone else experienced mouse or keyboard lagging even with CPU << 100% ?
[21:08] <Adam__> wilee-nilee: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1316363/
[21:09] <Adam__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1316371/
[21:09] <Adam__> <- after lang=c
[21:10] <wilee-nilee> Adam__, I would post that bootscript in your own thread for help at the Ubuntu Forums, there are only a couple of users regularly on this channel who kn ow this stuff, the forums has sevral more on almost al the time.
[21:10] <Adam__> i am not on ubuntu forum
[21:11] <wilee-nilee> Adam__, I know a msdos set up and grub 2 quite well but not a got setup. Join the forum then.
[21:11] <wilee-nilee> gpt*
[21:11] <Adam__> but there is no any magic
[21:11] <Adam__> just how add next hdd to grub :(
[21:11] <Adam__> when i switch in bios, windows boot fine
[21:12] <brontosaurusrex> VLanX: usually a drivers problem
[21:13] <wilee-nilee> Adam__, It is not magic, but most do not know gpt, it is not often seen.
[21:13] <Benxyzzy> exit
[21:13] <Benxyzzy> whoops
[21:14] <VLanX> brontosaurusrex: you sure? happens quite rarely, expecially with system under load
[21:16] <mirak_> trism, it doesn't work. I don't understand why the build worked, and now i want to install it says dependencies are missing
[21:18] <trism> mirak_: can you pastebin the output?
[21:18] <mstenta> Hi all, I'm having trouble installing Ubuntu on my MacBook Pro... neither the LiveCD nor LiveUSB works. I have checked the MD5 on both. When I reboot and hold 'c' (to boot from cd) the cd spins for a bit, then ejects itself and I end up with a black screen with just a blinking cursor.
[21:18] <mstenta> Has anyone had this issue? Or has anyone been able to successfully install Ubuntu on a MacBook Pro?
[21:18] <Noskcaj> mstenta: is the cd scratched at all?
[21:19] <mstenta> Noskcaj: Nope. Brand new. And I tried it on another PC laptop and it worked fine.
[21:19] <moorscode> hi there
[21:19] <Noskcaj> mstenta: you need the amd64-mac cd
[21:19] <Noskcaj> google for it
[21:19] <mstenta> Noskcaj: Yep, that's what I'm using... 12.10 AMD64+MAC
[21:20] <Noskcaj> ok, im out of ideas, hopefully someone else knows
[21:20] <mstenta> Noskcaj: thanks anyway :-)
[21:20] <moorscode> I'm having a massive struggle with postfix; 550 5.1.1: User unknown in virtual alias table - would anybody please give me some thoughts?
[21:20] <mstenta> I think it might be an issue with boot partitions... ? But I really have no idea how those work... :-/
[21:21] <mstenta> I have installed Ubuntu previously on this MacBook, and installed Refit in the process... I didn't use it for a while, and then recently I decided to delete my Ubuntu partition and try it again with a newer install. But now I can't boot the install CD at all.
[21:22] <mstenta> I'm wondering if deleting the old partition messed something up...,
[21:22] <mstenta> Oh I hope that someone here is ignoring the impending doom of the hurricane and knows how to help me!!! ;-)
[21:22] <falconindy> hi. i notice that when i switch workspaces in unity with a keyboard shortcut, if i do it quickly, the popup with the workspace view "sticks". anyone know of a bug report regarding this, or maybe if there's some way to change the behavior of the workspace switcher so that this popup isn't visible to begin with?
[21:24] <mstenta> I have googled just about every possible combination of terms to find a solution... I've found a few similar issues... but none of them have had solutions that worked for me.
[21:24] <mstenta> I've been trying to get this to work for the past 3 days
[21:26] <mstenta> :-(
[21:26] <mdpai> Hi guys. I got this error/warning when try to install grub. http://pastebin.com/zAUhkLwc  Anyone has a pointer?
[21:27] <mdpai> I move my Ubuntu installation to another drive and want to install grub on it.
[21:30] <mdpai> Can I just change the partition table to let say msdos?
[21:30] <David-A> mdpai: my guess is the partition table is not of type msdos and there is not room for a normal grub2 boot record.
[21:31] <mdpai> If I want to change the partition table to msdos, do I need to reformat all?
[21:31] <mdpai> David-A: ^\
[21:31] <David-A> mdpai: You can change it but I don't know if current partitions will be saved.
[21:32] <mdpai> David-A: I will try it then
[21:32] <mdpai> thanks
[21:33] <snow_ru> hi
[21:33] <snow_ru> hi all
[21:33] <snow_ru> I want to upgrade to ubuntu 12.10
[21:33] <snow_ru> but
[21:33] <snow_ru> lsb_release
[21:33] <snow_ru> No LSB modules are available
[21:33] <vfw> snow_ru: from _____________?
[21:33] <snow_ru> lsb_release  -a
[21:33] <snow_ru> Description:	Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS
[21:34] <vfw> snow_ru: Plese keep your comments on one line, do not use Enter for punctuation.
[21:34] <mdpai> David-A: It ask to erase the disk. :(
[21:34] <mdpai> Well I have no choice.
[21:34] <k1l_> snow_ru: change the release prompt form lts releases to the regular releases. in the repository settings
[21:34] <vfw> snow_ru: You don't like LTS?
[21:35] <snow_ru> what should I do to upgrade it to 12.10 ?
[21:35] <vfw> mdpai: Why do you want to change it?
[21:35] <snow_ru> klaas, vfw  ?
[21:35] <vfw> snow_ru: k1l_ just told you.
[21:35] <mdpai> vfw: install-grub gives me error on gpt partition table
[21:36] <snow_ru> ok
[21:36] <vfw> mdpai: can you give the exact error?
[21:36] <snow_ru> ok
[21:36] <snow_ru> good
[21:36] <snow_ru> it's running
[21:36] <snow_ru> how long would it finish ?
[21:36] <FloodBot1> snow_ru: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:37] <mdpai> vfw: http://pastebin.com/zAUhkLwc
[21:37] <k1l_> Snow-Man: depends on your computer, the network connection, the speed of servers near you, the moon and the karma :)
[21:38] <k1l_> snow_ru: ^
[21:38] <ejcweb> How can I download the latest Thunderbird (16.0.2) for Ubuntu 12.04? It doesn't show in the update manager, but the current version has a bug which is killing my disk space.
[21:40] <vfw> mdpai: /dev/sdc ?   Shouldn't you be installing grub on sda?
[21:40] <balkanac> Hi
[21:40] <isolier> Hello
[21:41] <lindenle_> Having trouble with network manager widget in 12.04, I cannot enabel or disable wireless and the networks it shows are just plain wrong, any ideas?
[21:41] <mdpai> vfw: Is it a must?
[21:41] <David-A> mdpai: you can try testdisk afterwards to see if it can recover the partitions. (no guarantee, for fun or education)
[21:41] <vfw> mdpai: Why?
[21:41] <vfw> mdpai: Which HD boots?
[21:41] <mdpai> vfw: Why not?
[21:41] <shince> H,G keys are not working as its should be. When i press any mentioned keys,its select the last typed word or curlsor will go anywhere in the typed sentence...what could be the issue??
[21:41] <wilee-nilee> mdpai, You a member of the ubuntu forums?
[21:41] <vfw> mdpai: Which Hard Drive does your computer boot to?  sda?
[21:42] <mdpai> David-A: I'm re-rsync my hdd now. :)
[21:42] <shince> using ubuntu 11.10 on lenovo E420
[21:42] <profoak> Hey guys, I'm having trouble running a file through terminal and by gui. When typing ./filename, it says file now found. The file is in fact there and I am in the correct directory, but it won't run. Has anyone run into similar problems?
[21:42] <shince> sda
[21:42] <mdpai> vfw: sdb
[21:42] <kev_> irc://irc.freenode.net/ubuntu-beginners
[21:42] <isolier> I am trying to install 12.10, and all seems to go well, however, the install hangs at "Configuring Hardware" and showing the details reveals it is initramfs at "generating /boot/initrd" Any ideas?
[21:42] <vfw> mdpai: Then why are you trying to install grub onto sdc ?
[21:42] <mdpai> wilee-nilee: I don't think so. :)
[21:43] <mdpai> vfw: I want to move my Ubuntu installation to the new drive. You are like a FBI. :)
[21:43] <bekks> profoak: Could you show a pastebin of all that?
[21:43] <Linkandzelda> hello can somone help me fix broken packages in ubuntu 10?
[21:44] <bekks> Linkandzelda: In which Ubuntu 10?
[21:44] <Linkandzelda> im trying to install eclipse and packges eclipse-jdt and pde are not being installed
[21:44] <vfw> mdpai: moving your Ubuntu installation from one drive to another is a pretty complicated affair.  You might be better off to backup /home/ and re-install.
[21:44] <David-A> profoak: did you spell it exactly? it should be executable, and then you can type the beginning of its name and then TAB to complete the name
[21:44] <Linkandzelda> 10.04 lts i beleive
[21:44] <kev_> why is it impossible to map a network drive?
[21:44] <mdpai> vfw: No.
[21:44] <wilee-nilee> mdpai, The forums is your best instructions on this I used to due grub help there. There are some users on everyday who can be more helpful with a gpt setup then the couple that are on here
[21:44] <profoak> bekks: It literally says "No such file or directory". David-A: I always use tab completion.
[21:44] <bekks> Linkandzelda: Whats the output of lsb_release -sc ?
[21:45] <bekks> kev_: It is possible.
[21:45] <mdpai> wilee-nilee: I already changed the partition table to msdos :(
[21:45] <wilee-nilee> mdpai, Run this script then and pastebin the text. http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[21:45] <Linkandzelda> its lucid
[21:45] <mdpai> In the process of rsync both drive right now.
[21:45] <Linkandzelda> bekks: this is backtrack 5 based on ubuntu lucid, i get the same result with actual lucid too
[21:45] <David-A> Procrastinator: if the script has a faulty shebang it may say "file not found" or similar, not about the script file, but about the interpreter.
[21:45] <wilee-nilee> mdpai, The script will tell us what we need to know.
[21:46] <kev_> bekks i'm really struggling here
[21:46] <David-A> profoak: see msg to Procrastinator ^^
[21:47] <vfw> mdpai: Ok, once you move your ubuntu partitions, you'll need to change fstab and re-install grub to the HD that boots, (which is more-than-likely sda, not sdc).
[21:47] <profoak> David-A: It's a binary file. It's an installer for necessitas from their website
[21:47] <bekks> !backtrack ¦ Linkandzelda
[21:48] <Linkandzelda> bekks: huh? lol
[21:48] <bekks> !backtrack
[21:48] <guntbert> bekks: wrong pipe :)
[21:48] <Linkandzelda> Ok, then I'll boot ubuntu 10.04, will you be able to provide support then?
[21:48] <mdpai> vfw: Ok. That's what I want to do. Want to try this at least once. :)
[21:49] <mdpai> vfw: Grub is always on sda? This is one thing I don't really understand
[21:49] <kev_> back to windows
[21:51] <uglyoldbob> how do I specify a video bitrate for the stream between ffmpeg and ffserver and have it actually use that bitrate?
[21:51] <vfw> mdpai: What is not to uderstand?  The computer boots to the primary drive, (which in most cases is sda1).
[21:52] <mdpai> vfw:  For example if I install grub to two different drives. It will always look at the primary drive correct? But then, how a primary drive is chosen?
[21:53] <dark> hi i'm new to ubuntu and completely lost
[21:53] <uglyoldbob> i think ffserver calls it the feed
[21:54] <dark> don't know if anyone can help but  i'm running ubuntu 12.10 and trying to install the current nvidia release but when i do unity doesn't show
[21:54] <vfw> mdpai: Why install grub on any other drive but the primary one?
[21:55] <vfw> mdpai: You only need it on one HD, the primary drive, sda
[21:55] <shince> H,G keys are not working as its should be. When i press any mentioned keys,its select the last typed word or curlsor will go anywhere in the typed sentence...what could be the issue??
[21:55] <shince> ubuntu 11.10
[21:57] <mdpai> vfw: Ok.  So if my sda doesn't move and I just move my Ubuntu in sdb to sdc, I don't need to re-install grub. Correct?
[21:57] <jasper^off> hej guys
[21:57] <jasper^off> I have a question. I can't get my network connected (Wifi) to a wpa2 network
[21:57] <jasper^off> it does work with a WPA network though....using the connection manager
[21:58] <Linkandzelda> bekks: i'm now in Ubuntu 10.04 lucid, I have the same problem with eclipse-jdt and pde. I've followed this too with no luck: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=10200438&postcount=9
[21:58] <jasper^off> any idea why wpa2 wouldn't work...while wpa does?
[21:59] <mdpai> wilee-nilee: http://pastebin.com/yif9itYq  Please take a look.
[21:59] <wilee-nilee> mdpai,  sure
[22:00] <budtaz> hello ubuntu ......i got gimp 2.8.2  and with picture ... i notice where is ??  file . save as. select file type ( by extension )  where is Jpg or Jegp ???
[22:01] <trism> budtaz: you need to go to File/export to save as other file formats
[22:01] <anonymous> Hallo
[22:01] <anonymous> jemand aus deutschland hier?
[22:01] <wilee-nilee> mdpai, Are the sdb and sdc ubuntu identical?
[22:01] <mdpai> wilee-nilee: Right now yes. I just rsync sdb1 and sdc1
[22:02] <mdpai> I plan to format sdb after this transfer successful
[22:02] <dark> anyone wanna walk me through the install of the current nvidia driver on 12.10
[22:03] <jrib> !nvidia | dark
[22:03] <Linkandzelda> here is the error i'm getting, if anyone can help with it i would be very greatful http://cl.ly/image/0K043d2R0m2k
[22:03] <wilee-nilee> mdpai, That will be a problem for grub, but whichever one you want to run needs grub in its mbr, grub is in the sdb as of now, but will probably need a reload to boot by chrooting in and running the grub-install /dev/sdb  as suggested before you will want the fstab correct. Grub will be confused by two identical ubuntu's though.
[22:04] <torres> Where is the best place to talk about Unity development?
[22:04] <mdpai> wilee-nilee: So my grub is in sdb and not sda?
[22:05] <wilee-nilee> mdpai, correct you want it in the same HD, unless you have a master slave setup which I don't think this is.
[22:05] <wilee-nilee> mdpai, Can you unplug the sdc drive?
[22:06] <mdpai> wilee-nilee: I'm on Live CD now. So if I chroot to sdc and install grub there, I need to un-install grub from sdb first?
[22:06] <wilee-nilee> mdpai, you would not have to uninstall grub at a all, which drive has the ubuntu you want to use?
[22:06] <mdpai> wilee-nilee: sdc
[22:07] <wilee-nilee> mdpai, The problem here is that you have 2 identical ubuntu's that will confuse grub, so you need to deal with that first.
[22:08] <wilee-nilee> mdpai, You would be better with a clone of the sdc ubuntu not an exact copy.
[22:08] <mdpai> wilee-nilee: Can't we say to grub which UUID that has the Ubuntu that we want?
[22:09] <wilee-nilee> mdpai, I'm not sure how to be honest, but a update of grub will nulify that even if you can.
[22:09] <wilee-nilee> mdpai, grub does not read the UUID I believe.
[22:10] <wilee-nilee> mdpai, I would just clone the one on sdc with clonezilla and remove the sdb one.
[22:11] <wilee-nilee> unless you have some need for both then you will have to fins a helper who knows what to do then. mdpai
[22:12] <wilee-nilee> find*
[22:13] <mdpai> wilee-nilee: Actually I don't need both. What I want to do right now is to move my Ubuntu from sdb1 to sdc1. Then, I want to format the entire sdb.
[22:13] <mdpai> wilee-nilee: If I install grub to sdc1 then format sdb. It will solve my problem right?
[22:14] <wilee-nilee> mdpai, Not sure what your problem is exactly.
[22:14] <Ballek> hi
[22:15] <mdpai> wilee-nilee: I don't know what the problem either. You are saying that I will have an issue regarding the identical ubuntu installation.
[22:15] <L3top> mdpai: You would install grub on the first disk in boot order, and not using the partition number... and then update it. I would get rid of sdb1 first so it is not found by grub.
[22:15] <bretolius> Anyone recomend a some good, lightwheight, unity compatable system monitors for the toolbar?
[22:15] <bretolius> like CPU/network meteters
[22:15] <mdpai> wilee-nilee: I don't need both installation. I just want to move from sdb to sdc
[22:15] <dark> ok not to sound like an idiot but it keeps telling me nvidia installer needs to be run as root how do i do that
[22:16] <L3top> dark sudo
[22:16] <bretolius> dark: sudo
[22:16] <mdpai> L3top: So I need to install grub on sda now?
[22:16] <bretolius> dark: are you having nvidia driver issues with 12.10?
[22:16] <dark> yes
[22:16] <bretolius> yeah they are fucked up but I have a solution I can point you too
[22:16] <bretolius> yike sorry language
[22:17] <toastcfh> hello all. im having an issue with Archive manager and would like to know if there is a way to debug it. Its not allowing me to add files to an archive and giving "
[22:17] <dark> please i just want my 1920x1080 hd res back
[22:17] <L3top> mdpai: yes... and then update-grub... but again, you want to get rid of sdb1 first if that is your intent.
[22:17] <wilee-nilee> mdpai, You started with a gpt problem, that is now fixed. If you have a good install on sdc and grub loaded there and first in the bios to be read you should be set. So yes if you transfer the sdb ubuntu to sdc and there is only on e install and it is good your okay then.
[22:17] <bretolius> dark: see http://askubuntu.com/questions/202677/nvidia-driver-doesnt-work-in-12-10
[22:17] <toastcfh> it works with other archivers
[22:17] <toastcfh> ;/
[22:17] <mdpai> L3top: wilee-nilee Ok noted. Thanks.
[22:17] <bretolius> dark: basically you need sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic
[22:17] <dark> what's that
[22:18] <wilee-nilee> mdpai,  Grub will pickup the windows install with a update-grub as well.
[22:18] <moorscode> could anybody give me a hand, I'm trying to fix my postfix-dovecot setup, but I can't seem to receive any mails on my virtual domains..
[22:18] <bretolius> dark, im not sure, but the drivers need it
[22:18] <dark> lol
[22:18] <L3top> dark uname -r
[22:18] <budtaz> hi ubuntu  ...where i can find HDR for gimp 2.8.2 ?
[22:18] <mdpai> wilee-nilee: Yup
[22:18] <bretolius> also, I found all sorts of problems with all nvidia drivers except The experimental ones
[22:18] <dark> sorry i'm absolutely new to this first time using ubuntu at all
[22:18] <L3top> !info linux-headers-generic
[22:18] <toastcfh> dark headers for the kernel so u can compile the moodle for nvidia against the kernel
[22:19] <bretolius> dark, follow those instructions, and install the epxerimental drivers
[22:19] <L3top> dark... I just want you to type  uname -r    in a terminal.
[22:19] <bretolius> dark: thats what worked best for me
[22:19] <L3top> dark: and drop it back to me. I would not follow that advice until we know what kernel you are on.
[22:19] <wilee-nilee> dark, Be sure to use nicks on the channel you can auto complete them with tab, this makes things much easier. ;)]
[22:19] <toastcfh> anyone got any ideas about Archive manager?
[22:19] <bretolius> Anyone recomend a some good, lightwheight, unity compatable system monitors for  the toolbar?
[22:20] <dark> 3.5.0-17-generic
[22:20] <dtigue> Man, I've used some version of Linux since 1998. I've used Ubuntu at the office since 2005. Never have I had more trouble installing a package than I have today while trying to install Plex Media Center through the Ubuntu Software Center
[22:20] <L3top> !info conky | bretolius
[22:21] <bretolius> Anyone recomend a some good, lightwheight, unity compatable system monitors for  the toolbar?
[22:21] <toastcfh> dark, did u try just going to settings > additional drivers and just enabling the nvidia driver?
[22:21] <bretolius> woops
[22:21] <bretolius> did not mean to repost that
[22:21] <dtigue> Ubuntu's Software Center seems to have gotten worse with each consecutive version release, almost to the point where I can't recommend Ubuntu to my friends and family anymore
[22:21] <L3top> worse in what respect dtigue?
[22:21] <dark> i did but unity doesn't show
[22:21] <bretolius> L3top: I am aware of conky, but can you get it to live up next to your sound volume and network status buttons?
[22:22] <L3top> dark: lspci -nn | grep VGA
[22:22] <toastcfh> does it when u hit the super button?
[22:22] <toastcfh> dark, ?
[22:22] <dtigue> L3top: some don't install when I click install, its as slow as christmas, and the interface is more cluttered with each release it seems
[22:22] <toastcfh> auto hide was jacked up for me after upgrade
[22:22] <KM0201> dtigue: so if you donj't like it (i dont either) just keep using synaptic
[22:22] <bretolius> dark: if unity is not showng, open up a terminal (ctl-alt-t I think) start the software center, and change back to the open source driver till you get the headers installed
[22:23] <bretolius> the same thing happened to me
[22:23] <L3top> dtigue: if something doesn't install when you click it, then something is wonky with dpkg... or you have added bad source repos which cause a dependency problem.
[22:23] <dtigue> KM0201: i've never really used Synaptic either, i prefer apt-get....
[22:23] <bretolius> this is like a pretty massive bug I can't belive cononical released it like this
[22:24] <KM0201> dtigue: then if ou prefer apt-get, wjhy are you crying about usc?
[22:24] <mdpai> L3top: wilee-nilee One last question. Where grub installed is not important as long as I boot into that drive first. Correct?
[22:24] <dtigue> L3top: this is on a fresh install with updates, so nothing should be wrong with dpkg and there is no extra repos
[22:24] <dark> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation GF116 [GeForce GTX 550 Ti] [10de:1244] (rev a1)
[22:24] <dark> 04:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation GF116 [GeForce GTX 550 Ti] [10de:1244] (rev a1)
[22:24] <dtigue> KM0201: i have a lot of family that uses ubuntu, and I'm their go to guy when something doesn't work
[22:24] <wilee-nilee> mdpai, When you say grub installed are you meaning the OS, or the mbr?
[22:25] <mdpai> wilee-nilee: mbr
[22:25] <KM0201> dtigue: i can relate, as i'm in the same boat.. but again, show them how to use synaptic.
[22:25] <dtigue> KM0201: i was only testing out 12.10, so i would know whether to recommend the upgrade or to tell them to just stay with 12.04 LTS
[22:25] <KM0201> or apt-get
[22:25] <L3top> dtigue: whether or not it is a new install... dpkg can break. In a terminal type sudo dpkg --configure -a     just to be sure.
[22:26] <wilee-nilee> mdpai, I doubt the sdc will boot ubuntu unless the copy from sdb was indenticasl to whatever the mbr grub is set at, I suspect you will have to reload the mbr.  There is also a tool called supergrub that will boot you into a non booting OS.
[22:26] <dtigue> L3top: yea i've done that already, nothing works, i'm no where close to being a noob, i just needed to vent a bit about USC not working correctly
[22:26] <L3top> dark: that one is a pain... it is new... but I would not expect you to have problems finding the additional drivers... apt-cache policy nvidia-current | grep -i installed
[22:27] <mdpai> wilee-nilee: I re-install grub on sdc. So it should boot right?
[22:27] <wilee-nilee> mdpai, I use supergrub myself and reload the mbr from the desktop when needed, rather then a chroot.
[22:27] <dtigue> KM0201: yea i guess i'll be teaching my dad and mom how to use synaptic, the problem is synaptic doesn't hold anything back and i;m afraid he will just start installing random junk that he doesn't need
[22:27] <wilee-nilee> mdpai, should.
[22:27] <mdpai> wilee-nilee: Ok thanks. Time to reboot and see what happens :)
[22:27] <L3top> dtigue: this is a support room, not therapy. If you have a support question I will try and answer it... but the problems you describe are uncommon... and indicate something else at their root.
[22:27] <Linkandzelda> could somone help me with tightvnc?
[22:27] <cap10morgan> on a new 12.04 install, when apt-get install openjdk-6-jdk, the /usr/lib/jvm/default-java symlink is no longer created (even after update-java-alternatives -s java-1.6.0-openjdk-i386). is that expected behavior?
[22:28] <KM0201> dtigue: i'd agree w/ L3top, you have issues.  why are you concerned about him installing things he "doesn't need"
[22:28] <dark> Installed: (none)
[22:28] <dtigue> L3top: lol, yea well i need therapy
[22:28] <KM0201> !vnc | Linkandzelda check here
[22:29] <L3top> dark:  just try installing it.    sudo apt-get install nvidia-current        then log out and back in... see if that is better. Do you have another PC to talk here on in case there is an unexpected result?
[22:30] <dark> i can try on my fiance's windows pc
[22:30] <Linkandzelda> KM0201: thanks, but my problem isnt listed there. I have tightvnc server opening on boot but, after installing eclipse tightvnc fails to find its default fonts directory and cannot open ;-;
[22:30] <dtigue> KM0201: L3top: i'm just testing 12.10, i just wanted to see how well it worked for the common 60 yr. old that knows nothing other than what i've showed him and he has learned on his own, i'll continue to look in to the problem, but when I click 'Buy' on Plex Media Server, i expect it to install from a fresh install and not just sit there and not do anything
[22:30] <dtigue> I'll figure it out,
[22:30] <PatrickDickey> L3top, how do you know which cards are supported under nvidia-current? I don't want to recommend it to people and find out that it doesn't work with their cards.
[22:31] <L3top> PatrickDickey: http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/304.37/README/supportedchips.html
[22:31] <L3top> but I deal with them so much I just know most pciids off the top of my head.
[22:32] <dtigue> L3top: KM0201 other than the USC, issue I've had 12.10 seems to be running smoothly though, is there any big performance boosts in this version over the LTS ?
[22:32] <toastcfh> man down
[22:32] <toastcfh> is there any way to debug archive manager?
[22:33] <toastcfh> my shits busted and i cant figure out why
[22:33] <toastcfh> ;/
[22:33] <toastcfh> :(
[22:33] <toastcfh> :c
[22:33] <bretolius> whats wrong with it
[22:33] <toastcfh> wont let me add files to archives
[22:33] <bretolius> even if you make a new archive?
[22:33] <bretolius> or specific to one archive
[22:34] <toastcfh> yeah
[22:34] <toastcfh> to all
[22:34] <L3top> !enter
[22:34] <toastcfh> i can add some files to it
[22:34] <bretolius> you can add some files to it but you cant add files to an archive?
[22:34] <PatrickDickey> Thanks L3top. I'll bookmark that for future reference (plus for when I buy  a new card).
[22:35] <toastcfh> bretolius, i can add some files to it but some files i can. its like its randomly derping. i think it might be permissions related but it doesnt give me a good error
[22:35] <fairuz_> wilee-nilee: L3top: (I'm mdpai from just now)... /dev/sdc1 on / type ext4 (rw,errors=remount-ro)   Thanks for the help!
[22:36] <Hemebond> Anyone know why Evolution shows Google contact birthdays as being one day later?
[22:36] <toastcfh> i just wanna debug it and see why
[22:36] <toastcfh> does it log somewhere?
[22:36] <bretolius> i dont know but debugging != logging
[22:37] <toastcfh> well logging would help me debug it
[22:37] <toastcfh> either way
[22:37] <toastcfh> ui error just says it fail. no reason why
[22:37] <David-A> Hemebond: daylight saving time/summer time confusion? (we change it at different weekends in europe and the usa)
[22:37] <L3top> toastcfh: you could watch syslog or maybe more likely dmesg
[22:38] <bretolius> yeah thats anoying.  see if there is a log somewhere in /var/log
[22:38] <toastcfh> dmesg didnt show anything
[22:38] <Hemebond> David-A: Our daylight savings isn't a day.
[22:38] <wilee-nilee> fairuz_, no problem. ;)
[22:38] <L3top> toastcfh: if you are trying to save an archive in a folder for which you do not have permission to write that could happen. You could open it from terminal with gksudo and probably at least determine if it is a permissions issue.
[22:39] <bretolius> toastcfh: or see the system log app
[22:39] <dark> did that no unity went back to the xorg n drives and unity is back
[22:39] <PatrickDickey> Hemebond: I think he means that since their Daylight Savings Time ended, and your computer is typically set to UTC (hardware), it might be causing problems.
[22:39] <bretolius> dark: now install those headers, and the experimental driver
[22:39] <David-A> Hemebond: isn't it? where do you live? :) I mean if it is rounding an exact time point to the second to be displayed as a date only, and round very simply, it can be wrong.
[22:40] <toastcfh> good call lemme try that
[22:40] <Hemebond> (sorry, really pissed off right now)
[22:40] <Hemebond> How do I check what Evolution is doing wrong?
[22:40] <L3top> dark: who are you talking to? And do not install experimental drivers unless you remove the native drivers first... did you install nvidia-current?
[22:41] <bretolius> Hemebond: did you miss a birthday by a day?
[22:41] <Hemebond> Yes.
[22:41] <bretolius> yikes
[22:41] <bretolius> goog.... evo... gahhhhrrrrrrrr
[22:42] <Hemebond> Google also seems to change birthday dates.
[22:42] <bretolius> Hemebond: do you sync google with anything else?  like a phone?
[22:42] <Hemebond> I went through all my contacts and fixed them, yet one contact now shows the bday two days earlier than it is.
[22:42] <Hemebond> Yes, iPhone.
[22:43] <bretolius> Hemebond: you might also want to check #evolution on irc.gimp.org
[22:43] <Hemebond> Will do.
[22:43] <Hemebond> Thanks.
[22:43] <David-A> Hemebond: is the clock in you computer right, and timezones?
[22:43] <wilee-nilee> and year
[22:43] <Hemebond> David-A: Yes, all fine there.
[22:44] <bretolius> Hemebond: I would be very suspicious of data changes/loss at any of your sycn points
[22:44] <bretolius> sync*
[22:45] <Hemebond> Hmm, THunderbird also shows the birthday as wrong.
[22:46] <lostandconfused> hi i installed 12.10 over 12.04 yesterday and everything was working great until I restarted and now it boots up and stalls at "*stopping system V runlevel capacity [done]   *starting [done] "
[22:47] <PatrickDickey> Hemebond: It's probably something with Google's Calendar then. If it's an evolution issue, you can probably get more support from their channel. You can join their IRC chanel #evolution on irc.gnome.org.
[22:48] <lostandconfused> does anyone know how I can diagnose and the issue?
[22:49] <toastcfh> ** (file-roller:13192): WARNING **: Error making symbolic link: File exists
[22:49] <const_antine> Hi, how does Ubuntu store DNS server list?
[22:49] <toastcfh> bretolius, error above
[22:49] <toastcfh> so its not permissions
[22:50] <alienaut> vlc player is buzzing for a short after i play the the video but it is getting annoying everytime i pause and play
[22:50] <const_antine> I want to create a custom DNS server for my lan
[22:51] <const_antine> what should I do to change Ubuntu network settings to include custom DNS server address?
[22:52] <blip-> hi all, I need to do some development with Ruby on Rails and MySQL under Linux.  Would ubuntu running within VBox under Windows 7 work well enough for that ?
[22:53] <toastcfh> yeah idk why im getting that error
[22:53] <toastcfh> odd ;/
[22:53] <PatrickDickey> const_antine: You can either add it's IP Address to the DNS Server list in Network-Manager, or add it manually to /etc/nameservers depending on how you configure your network. Personally, what I do is have my DNS server run my DHCP also (and turn that off at the router). That way it sends the information to all of the clients.
[22:53] <alienaut> blip-, i am developing rails application on ubuntu
[22:54] <toastcfh> it happens when i drag and drop a file that already exists into the archive manager
[22:54] <blip-> alienaut, ah great, the Ruby on Rails guys recommended I do it under Linux rather than Windows
[22:54] <PatrickDickey> const_antine: In Network-Manager, click on the interface, and then click Edit. The DNS Server list is under IPv4 addressing.
[22:54] <blip-> I've used Linux for years, just never as a virtual machine within Windows
[22:54] <toastcfh> it should just update/replace the file
[22:54] <alienaut> blip-, i suggest you double boot your computer
[22:54] <axisys> is there a tool to collect all the IPs that are hitting this host on a specific port ?
[22:54] <axisys> in next 1 hr
[22:54] <axisys> for example
[22:55] <gangnam-style> axisys: netstat
[22:55] <axisys> gangnam-style: nice nic :-)
[22:55] <const_antine> PatrickDickey, fascinating, is it a lot of work to make DHCP run DHCP?
[22:55] <alienaut> blip-, yes linux or mac is better if you want to develop rails apps
[22:55] <gangnam-style> axisys: thank you
[22:56] <PatrickDickey> const_antine: manually, possibly. I installed a server designed for it (Amahi Home Server), and I used webmin to configure everything.
[22:56] <axisys> gangnam-style: netstat inly shows when someone listening to that port .. as far as I know
[22:56] <axisys> gangnam-style: in this case no one is listening to that port
[22:56] <alienaut> blip-, here is a guide for you http://ryanbigg.com/2010/12/ubuntu-ruby-rvm-rails-and-you/
[22:56] <wrostek> Anyone know how to check transmission rate from a machine running hosted ?
[22:56] <wrostek> hostapd
[22:56] <gangnam-style> axisys: okey, what do you want ?
[22:57] <axisys> i want all the IPs that are hitting this server on port 8000 e.g
[22:57] <PatrickDickey> const_antine: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/dhcp3-server also http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-and-configure-dhcp-server-in-ubuntu-server.html
[22:57] <axisys> but nothing is running on port 8000
[22:57] <wrostek> e.g. Im running hostapd, and I want to know what Rate i am running at ( 300mbs, 54 mbs or 600mbs ) How can I check this?
[22:57] <axisys> i can tcpdump to collect and then parse through
[22:58] <axisys> but would be nice if there is a tool like dnstop
[22:58] <Hemebond> Turns out I can't edit Google contact info from Evolution or Thunderbird. Anyone got recommendations on replacements? I'm sick of moving back and forth between the two of them.
[22:58] <axisys> dnstop gives all the IPs that are hitting on port 53
[22:58] <blip-> alienaut, thanks.  I was planning to use Xampp to get the whole LAMP stack what do you think ?
[22:58] <const_antine> PatrickDickey, thank you! Although it looks like /etc/nameservers is absent on my computer. Perhaps you meant /etc/resolv.conf
[22:58] <phy1729> `/wc
[22:59] <PatrickDickey> const_antine: Yep. That's probably what I meant. I've only been awake for about 30 minutes. ;-) more or less.
[22:59] <orogor> hi
[23:00] <orogor> anyone knows where the desktop effect thingy has gone ?
[23:00] <PatrickDickey> axisys, why would anyone be trying to hit that port, if nothing's running on it? Or do you mean running a portscan on your network?
[23:00] <Kruko> hi, ubuntu one crashes when i try to install it on 12.04 LTS
[23:01] <lolcat> I need ia32-libs, but it whines about dependencies
[23:02] <axisys> PatrickDickey: there was splunk running on that port on that IP
[23:03] <axisys> PatrickDickey: so clients are still sending data
[23:03] <alienaut> blip-, will you install xampp on ubuntu?
[23:03] <alienaut> or windows
[23:03] <PatrickDickey> axisys: ifstat, iftop, iftraf, darkstat (if it's still available), wireshark if you want to sit and watch it.
[23:03] <dark> l3top back
[23:03] <axisys> PatrickDickey: but I want to reconfig the clients to match some changes we are making on new splunk server
[23:04] <blip-> alienaut, on ubuntu
[23:04] <axisys> PatrickDickey: iftop is pretty good
[23:04] <axisys> PatrickDickey: thanks
[23:05] <alienaut> blip- i think this is a better way https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[23:07] <PatrickDickey> axisys: no problem.
[23:08] <PatrickDickey> Hemebond, are you in the evolution channel also? I see a "hemebond" in there. If so, have they been able to help you at all?
[23:09] <dark> l3top u still here
[23:10] <Hemebond> PatrickDickey: That is me. No answer yet.
[23:10] <lappy_lubuntu> Hello everyone!  Is this a good place to ask for help if I'm having problems with ubuntu?
[23:10]  * PatrickDickey ping L3top just in case it didn't happen when dark called him.
[23:10] <lolcat> How can I run 32 bit packages without ia32-libs? :/
[23:10] <Hemebond> Also asking in the Thunderbird channel since that also shows the same problem.
[23:10] <L3top> sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[23:11] <PatrickDickey> Hemebond: just wanted to make sure. I wasn't sure if you got the right server name (since we gave you two of them earlier).
[23:11] <Hemebond> I'm really looking forward to Geary being completed.
[23:11] <L3top> dark ^
[23:11] <Hemebond> I really want to ditch Evolution and Thunderbird.
[23:11] <alienaut> guys any idea when steam realese for linux?
[23:11] <PatrickDickey> Hemebond: Have you actually gone to the Google Calendar website and checked to make sure the contacts aren't messed up there?
[23:12] <Hemebond> PatrickDickey: The dates are correct in the Google contacts.
[23:12] <lappy_lubuntu> When I try to mount my windows partition I get an error message saying "Error mounting /dev/sda2 at /media/lubuntu/Windows7_OS: Command-line `mount -t "ntfs" -o "uhelper=udisks2,nodev,nosuid,uid=999,gid=999,dmask=0077,fmask=0177" "/dev/sda2" "/media/lubuntu/Windows7_OS"' exited with non-zero exit status 12: Failed to read last sector (1923478959): Invalid argument"
[23:12] <lappy_lubuntu> I don't suppose anyone knows how I could get it to mount?
[23:12] <dark> l3top Reading package lists... Done
[23:12] <dark> Building dependency tree
[23:12] <dark> Reading state information... Done
[23:12] <dark> Package nvidia-current is a virtual package provided by:
[23:12] <dark>   nvidia-experimental-304 304.48-0ubuntu1 [Not candidate version]
[23:12] <FloodBot1> dark: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:12] <dark> E: Package 'nvidia-current' has no installation candidate
[23:13] <PatrickDickey> Hemebond: but are they right in Google Calendar? I'd imagine that Evolution and Thunderbird are getting their information from there (assuming, yes I know.... that you're using that also).
[23:14] <Hemebond> PatrickDickey: There is no proper birthday calendar in Google calendar. I just removed a third-party calendar that showed them, and it showed the correct dates.
[23:14] <L3top> dark sudo apt-get update && apt-cache policy nvidia-current | grep -i candidate
[23:14] <alienaut> blip- if you did not use linux for programming before try linux training on "google code university"
[23:15] <Myrtti> dark: please put all the things you were trying to paste into the channel into a pastebin such as the one FloodBot1 gave you a link of.
[23:15] <Myrtti> dark: then paste the URL to the channel with your question.
[23:19] <mirak_> trism, i will do that tomorow
[23:19] <mirak_> bye
[23:19] <mirak_> thanks for the help
[23:20] <Danon> Ubuntu will run a a APU right?
[23:22] <mirak_> trism, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1316697/  package is uploaded there https://launchpad.net/~mirak-mirak/+archive/ppa
[23:28] <PatrickDickey> Hemebond: it looks like Geary is available if you want to compile it from scratch. At least according to their wiki pages.
[23:28] <Hemebond> PatrickDickey: I've got it installed.
[23:28] <Hemebond> The only thing it doesn't yet do is support multiple Google accounts.
[23:28] <Hemebond> Which I need.
[23:29] <PatrickDickey> Ahhhh. Gottcha. I wonder if they've got that on the roadmap then Hemebond
[23:29] <Hemebond> It is on their roadmap I believe.
[23:29] <Hemebond> Hmm. I should check out their calendar app.
[23:29] <Red_M> hey guys i got a sick server here that cant resolve DNS
[23:30] <derpsauce> Hello! I'm new to Ubuntu, and re-read this article from a while ago (www.catb.org/esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html) and I'm trying to get Python 3.30. Which package should I get? Here are my options: http://www.python.org/download/releases/3.3.0/
[23:30] <purvesh> I had booted from my usb bootable ubuntu 12.04 & 12.10 and copy & pasted some data to my laptop's windows drive, but when i rebooted to windows that content is not showing (or deleted automatically) even i had tried booting from both version.
[23:30] <almigi> Has anyone sorted out why installing virtualbox from the software center in 12.10 doesn't work?  Every time I try to launch a virtual machine I get an error telling me to run a '/etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup' only to get an error that the command can't be found.
[23:31] <Red_M> i try to use a DNS name when ssh'ing and it gives me "ssh: Could not resolve hostname <removed>: Temporary failure in name resolution"
[23:31] <Red_M> any ideas?
[23:31] <Red_M> it can wait but its annoying me
[23:31] <almigi> my guess is that it's the same issue that's affecting the display drivers (missing linux-headers or something). Just wondering if anyone else was able to confirm that.
[23:31] <derpsauce> No idea, man. Sorry
[23:32] <Red_M> sigh
[23:32] <balduin> Red_M in Ubuntu 12.04 Python 2.7 is standart
[23:32] <derpsauce> I don't know how any of that stuff works, anyways.
[23:32] <not_unoriginal> hey all, I tried using that windows installer app dealy
[23:32] <Red_M> balduin: ...?
[23:32] <derpsauce> balduin: Python is my question.
[23:32] <almigi> Red_M: so, basically ssh works with the ip address but not the DNS address?
[23:32] <Red_M> yes
[23:32] <balduin> but you can install Python 3.2 in Ubuntu 12.04 over synaptic
[23:32] <not_unoriginal> upon reboot there is an MBR error
[23:32] <almigi> Red_M: and I'm guessing regular address work everywhere else?
[23:32] <Red_M> yeah
[23:33] <derpsauce> balduin: Should I get 3.30? Or is 2.7 fine? Sorry,  I'm new.
[23:33] <Red_M> almigi: im using an ssh tunnel on it and hostnames resolve fine
[23:33] <Red_M> but ssh doesnt
[23:33] <Red_M> and i havent -- oh no one is in the office yet
[23:33] <Red_M> shiiiieeeeeetttt
[23:33] <balduin> Red_M sorry
[23:33] <not_unoriginal> so anyway I am wondering how do I get rid of the faulty install?
[23:33] <almigi> Red_M: is it possible the problem is with the host itself? have you tried pinging it just to see if it's up?
[23:33] <PatrickDickey> derpsauce: You can use either one. I currently use 2.7.3, and python3 is available through the repositories. I'm not sure if it's 3.3.0 or not though.
[23:33] <Red_M> almigi: im connected to it right now
[23:33] <top> does anyone know $COMP_WORDS environment variable?
[23:34] <Red_M> everything is up and fine but DNS on this server doesnt work
[23:34] <Red_M> so both servers are up
[23:34] <balduin> derpsausce: If you new in Python learn python 3 it doesn't matter what exact version of Python 3 you use
[23:34] <Red_M> and accept ssh conns
[23:34] <top> why I can't find the environement variable in my ubuntu system?
[23:34] <derpsauce> PatrickDickey: I'm looking at this page here (http://www.python.org/download/releases/3.3.0/) but I don't know which package to use.
[23:34] <jrib> top: what do you mean?
[23:35] <balduin> derpsauce: are you familiar with apt-get or synaptic or something
[23:35] <keglevich> hello all... is someone maybe familir with SIEVE or MANAGESIEVE in conjunction with DOVECOT? I can't get it working
[23:35] <top> I can't find the environment variable
[23:35] <pepee> top, which one? there are a bunch
[23:35] <jrib> top: that makes no sense.  What are you trying to accomplish
[23:35] <top> I can't find the environment variable:$COMP_WORDS
[23:36] <PatrickDickey> derpsauce: in a terminal, type sudo apt-get install python3 It will install the version that's already available through Ubuntu. No compiling needed.
[23:36] <pepee> top, what are you trying to do?
[23:36] <derpsauce> balduin: I have used the terminal a bit, mostly learning Bash Shell Scripting. I don't know the exact parameters of apt-get but I get the gist of what it does.
[23:36] <derpsauce> PatrickDickey: Thanks!
[23:36] <Red_M> almigi: i tried nslookup on the faulty DNS box and i get ";; connection timed out; no servers could be reached"
[23:36] <PatrickDickey> No problem derpsauce.
[23:36] <top> I just look it in a programme,it use this environment variable.
[23:36] <top> pepee: I just look it in a programme,it use this environment variable.
[23:37] <pepee> top, try setting it?
 you know how to install new programms or packages on Ubuntu or?
[23:37] <top> pepee: OK
[23:37] <almigi> Red_M: I wish I could find an answer for you... I found some similar reports of things like this in launchpad, but I can't find a good workaround... is this a host on a local network that's not resolving?
[23:37] <jrib> top: you should really say what it is you are actually trying to accomplish.  Maybe you can read about COMP_CWORD in « man bash »?
[23:37] <derpsauce> balduin: PatrickDickey just helped my out, but I think I can manage with other stuff as well. Thanks though!
[23:37] <pepee> top, if you give us more info, we can help you
[23:37] <Red_M> almigi: no the internet
[23:37] <Red_M> infact nothing resolves
[23:38] <Red_M> not even google
 yes i see thats all
[23:38] <almigi> Red_M: but things resolve if you were to use "ping" or "finger" , right?
[23:38] <Red_M> no
[23:38] <top> pepee: I can find the $COMP_WORDS and the $COMP_CWORD variable
[23:38] <Red_M> i get "unkonwn host"
[23:38] <top> pepee: I find it in the bash man pape.
[23:38] <almigi> Red_M: but Firefox (or whatever browser) works, right?
[23:39] <Red_M> *unknown
[23:39] <Red_M> almigi: my broswer via the ssh tunnel works fine
 later you have to say in terminal python3 to run an interactiv python 3.2 shell or python3 file.py to run the interpreter!
[23:39] <pepee> top, as jrib said, there is some info about COMP_CWORD in the bash manpage
[23:39] <top> pepee: but I can't find the info about $comprerly?
[23:40] <PatrickDickey> top to find the environment variables on your system, you can either type echo $GLOBAL or printenv in a terminal.
[23:40] <pepee> top, again, give us more info about what are you trying to do, or just find a tutorial about it
[23:41] <almigi> Red_M: so the browser is being ran on the remote machine then... the problem is nothing on the local machine resolves (I hope I'm understanding this correctly)?
[23:41] <Red_M> alienaut: infact i cant even ssh to my other server via the ssh tunnel with DNS forced on to look up at the tunnel end
[23:41] <Red_M> alienaut: yes... the server i have via a ssh tunnel and terminal does not reslove names
[23:41] <Red_M> shit
[23:42] <top> pepee: I want to find some info about $COMPREPLY.it is about to give completion suggestions for BASH.
[23:42] <Red_M> almigi: ^
[23:42] <pepee> top, try asking in #bash
[23:42] <PatrickDickey> top http://books.google.com/books?id=Qu6H8fnAvGoC&pg=PA394&lpg=PA394&dq=$compreply&source=bl&ots=ChiP7itG00&sig=UFgySYUyDe9a_gztFliqbq7WTmo&hl=en&sa=X&ei=OhSPUKX_H6qK2QXUs4DQBQ&ved=0CDsQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=%24compreply&f=false
[23:43] <top> PatrickDickey: thanks a lot.
[23:43] <PatrickDickey> top no problem. As pepee mentioned, you're better off asking these questions in #bash.
[23:43] <top> PatrickDickey: OK.
[23:44] <almigi> Red_M: I never had that issue myself, but I found this... I suppose it's worth a shot (unless you already tried it): http://askubuntu.com/questions/142327/can-not-access-internet-dns-names-do-not-resolve-after-update-today
[23:44] <keglevich> hello all... is someone maybe familir with SIEVE or MANAGESIEVE in conjunction with DOVECOT? I can't get it working
[23:47] <PatrickDickey> keglevich: You could ask in #dovecot
[23:50] <Red_M> almigi: fixed it
[23:51] <Red_M> found out the .etc.resolv.conf was empty
[23:51] <Red_M> */etc/reslov.conf
[23:51] <Red_M> so i just added some name servers
[23:51] <Red_M> anyway thanks
[23:51] <Derxst> hello everyone
[23:55] <sepoki> Hi, how can i get the current directory name, not the path only the folder name
[23:56] <trism> sepoki: basename $(pwd); ?
[23:57] <sepoki> Thank you
[23:59] <David-A> sepoki: better with quotes: basename "$(pwd)"   - or alternatively: basename "$PWD"
[23:59] <trism> excellent point