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| simplew | mr-rich: havent tried, but i think would be better for just use skype | 00:04 |
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| mr-rich | simplew: Telepathy requires Skype to be installed ... | 00:05 |
| mr-rich | simplew: How do I restart the Telepathy service? | 00:05 |
| simplew | mr-rich: so why you dont simply run skype? | 00:05 |
| simplew | mr-rich: ps aux|grep telepathy then kill the apps that apepar | 00:06 |
| bobby_ | I'm having a problem with flash | 00:06 |
| mr-rich | simplew: I do ... Skype doesn't do spell checking on the fly, telepathy .. | 00:06 |
| bobby_ | i install it again and again and it doesn't work | 00:06 |
| bobby_ | with firefox | 00:07 |
| bobby_ | anyone? | 00:07 |
| bobby_ | it was working fine before | 00:08 |
| bobby_ | but then i installed updates | 00:08 |
| bobby_ | now its no good | 00:08 |
| svspl | adobe-flashplugin? | 00:08 |
| bobby_ | yes | 00:08 |
| simplew | bobby_: what dpkg -l|grep -i flash shows? | 00:08 |
| bobby_ | tell me what to do | 00:10 |
| simplew | bobby_: i asked to show that output | 00:11 |
| simplew | mr-rich: for hat i see when adding a skype assount in ktp it simply runs skype | 00:12 |
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| zacarias | Hi. Does someone know if there is an official google support channel somewhere? | 01:12 |
| SIR_Taco | zacarias: for what exactly? | 01:25 |
| OerHeks | there is an unofficial channel here on freenode. | 01:26 |
| zacarias | SIR_Taco: For asking if there is a way of deleting all Google contacts groups at once (my wife's account is permnanently creating empty groups, each time it syncs with Android, I think) | 01:37 |
| SIR_Taco | zacarias: in the context of? | 01:44 |
| zacarias | SIR_Taco: well, I think I explained before: I would like to delete the hundreds of contact groups google created for me (actually, for my wife), when auto-syncing with Android (lots of empty-groups with the same name). That's why I wanted to find a Google support IRC channel. | 01:47 |
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| SIR_Taco | zacarias: so on an Android phone the? | 01:50 |
| SIR_Taco | *then | 01:50 |
| xixor | ... android, lol | 01:51 |
| Shaan7 | zacarias: I wonder if there even is such a channel. You're best asking on some android forum | 01:55 |
| SIR_Taco | zacarias: possibly try #android channel? | 01:55 |
| xixor | yo, so, I try to run bleachbit, which I think is a gtk app, with kdesudo, and I get Could Not Open X Display. Anyone have any ideas? Cheers | 01:59 |
| SIR_Taco | ... bleachbit, lol | 01:59 |
| xixor | lol | 02:00 |
| xixor | I just wanted to try it out | 02:00 |
| xixor | hm..... things like, kdesudo muon, don't work also | 02:00 |
| xixor | meh, I just use xhost + for now, then xhost - | 02:02 |
| xixor | wow, bleachbit cleared up quite a bit o space | 02:02 |
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| SIR_Taco | xixor: you don't need to use kdesudo for muon | 02:08 |
| xixor | I know, I was just using it as an example to show that kdesudo muon itself wasn't working | 02:09 |
| xixor | er, that launching any X app, kde, or otherwise, with kdesudo wasn't working right, there is something up with my sudoers Xauthority perhaps, I dunno | 02:09 |
| xixor | well, good night gents, later | 02:24 |
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| inocentpc | is anyone here a developer? | 05:13 |
| inocentpc | I'm not going to bore you with stupid questions. Just want to talk with a developer for a min. honest! | 05:15 |
| inocentpc | when would be a good time to get on IRC to meet a developer? | 05:18 |
| inocentpc | so far, no answer | 05:18 |
| inocentpc | is there a 1-800 number to talk to a developer? | 05:20 |
| inocentpc | so why was this IRC channel created if I cannot get in touch with a developer? | 05:22 |
| inocentpc | I guess I quit. thanks but no thanks for your lack of replies. | 05:24 |
| bazhang | inocentpc, why do you need to speak to a developer. just ask your support question here | 05:32 |
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| ahmet | TÜrk varmı | 07:50 |
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| Ahox_ | Hi, I have some problemsn with openvpn - when using it through the networkmanager libcrypto keeps crashing - any idea why? | 08:35 |
| Ahox_ | I put up the relevant syslog at http://paste.kde.org/585380/ . | 08:36 |
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| altecnologic | Good morning, I need to get only the URL you type in the squid | 10:06 |
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| DoNotKNowCarlie | Hi. I just upgraded my packages on 12.04 and rebooted, now I'm getting blank screen. it's an i7-2600 machine. | 11:51 |
| DoNotKNowCarlie | I added nomodset to the boot options but then the resolution is fixed to 640x480 | 11:52 |
| yud1z | good evening everyone | 11:52 |
| bazhang | DoNotKNowCarlie, in kubuntu? ubuntu? you are posting to both channels. | 11:52 |
| DoNotKNowCarlie | bazhang: kubuntu but I guess it's X/driver problem so what's the difference | 11:53 |
| bazhang | DoNotKNowCarlie, its the same helpers in both channels... | 11:53 |
| DoNotKNowCarlie | oh I see..anyway I'm stuck and a little bit in panic | 11:54 |
| bazhang | whats the card | 11:54 |
| DoNotKNowCarlie | no card, it's the on CPU GPU . I don't know how they call it | 11:55 |
| bazhang | the video card | 11:55 |
| DoNotKNowCarlie | i7-2600 , the machine has no "card" it's on bord, lspci shows intel core integrated graphics controller | 11:56 |
| DoNotKNowCarlie | so it's intel | 11:57 |
| bazhang | DoNotKNowCarlie, would you mind paste.ubuntu.com with the output of lspci | 11:57 |
| DoNotKNowCarlie | http://paste.ubuntu.com/1317751/ | 11:59 |
| bazhang | DoNotKNowCarlie, this is not an optimus? only the intel? | 12:03 |
| DoNotKNowCarlie | bazhang: optimus ? there is only one hdmi port on the back of the machine | 12:04 |
| DoNotKNowCarlie | bazhang: there is no other card. and the screen is attached with a small hdmi to vga converter | 12:05 |
| torbjorn | how do you actually apply the network changes to set in network manager? | 12:05 |
| bazhang | the converter might be the issue | 12:06 |
| torbjorn | I set some ip addresses and some routes, but nothing happened | 12:06 |
| bazhang | there is a PPA you could try though: http://islandlinux.org/howto/update-intel-video-driver-latest-version-ubuntu DoNotKNowCarlie | 12:06 |
| DoNotKNowCarlie | bazhang: but it worked fine until the last apt-get upgrade | 12:06 |
| DoNotKNowCarlie | bazhang: anyway, now that I booted with nomodset, X starts normally but at 640x480 . how can I change that? | 12:07 |
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| marcellus_ | hi. I am running Kubuntu 12.04 with Kernel 3.6 and Muon shows me to upgrade the Kernel to a lower one. Should I ignore it or just install it anyway? I know the Kernel 3.6 will be still running... | 12:26 |
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| simplew | in 12.10 running "kdesudo dolphin" does allow to run other KDE applications from it? does kwrite runs when double clicking in a text file from dolphin root? | 12:53 |
| lordievader | simplew: Yes if you open a file from dolphin, when dolphin runs under root, kwrite will also run under the root user. | 12:55 |
| simplew | lordievader: did you tried it? because here DOES NOT run | 12:56 |
| lordievader | simplew: I didn't try it with Kwrite, but I know Kate will open under root if you use dolphin under root. Else you can always open Kwrite under root with kdesudo kwrite. | 12:58 |
| simplew | lordievader: so you have n | 12:59 |
| simplew | lordievader: so you have NOT tried | 12:59 |
| simplew | lordievader: i know what i can do, im trying to report an existing problem | 12:59 |
| simplew | another problem, runing kuser to add a new user does add to sudoers, thus when entering in a session with new user and running for example "kdesudo dolphin" will report that the users does NOT belong to sudoers | 13:01 |
| lordievader | simplew: Ofcourse not, you do not want to give a user root, not even temporary. | 13:02 |
| lordievader | simplew: I have just tested your problem, kwrite is running as root. | 13:03 |
| simplew | lordievader: so i do NOT see an option allowing to set the new user as an administrator, and that should exist like it happens in GNOME | 13:03 |
| simplew | lordievader: are you running 12.10 | 13:03 |
| lordievader | simplew: 12.04 | 13:03 |
| simplew | lordievader: aH! | 13:04 |
| lordievader | simplew: System Settings -> User Management | 13:04 |
| simplew | lordievader: thats a gnome tool! | 13:04 |
| simplew | lordievader: and that entry does not appear when running KDE | 13:05 |
| tsimpson | simplew: it's a KDE tool, I see it in front of me now | 13:05 |
| simplew | tsimpson: show me a screenshot, if its a kde tool it should be kuser and that i dont believe it is | 13:06 |
| lordievader | simplew: On my 12.10 install kwrite also runs under root. | 13:07 |
| simplew | lordievader: im trying to understand what triggers this problem | 13:07 |
| simplew | lordievader: because im not simply inventing this | 13:07 |
| simplew | tsimpson: System Settings -> User Management its not a KDE tool | 13:08 |
| lordievader | simplew: Does the terminal throw you an error when you run something with kdesudo? | 13:08 |
| simplew | no | 13:09 |
| lordievader | simplew: Also how do you check under which user kwrite is running? | 13:09 |
| simplew | lordievader: of course | 13:09 |
| simplew | i said root | 13:09 |
| tsimpson | simplew: yes, it is: http://ubuntuone.com/52y3Qtq13bydJQr3Rft5gD | 13:09 |
| simplew | even if u do "su -" it will hapens the same issue | 13:09 |
| tsimpson | see the "KDE Control Module" titles | 13:09 |
| tsimpson | I don't have Gnome installed, so it's certainly not a Gnome tool | 13:10 |
| simplew | tsimpson: yes it is, ubuntu install certain tools by default that are gnome | 13:10 |
| lordievader | simplew: Perhaps I'm failing to understand you. What is exactly your problem with kdesudo? | 13:10 |
| simplew | tsimpson: seams you dont know how to distinguish its difference | 13:10 |
| tsimpson | simplew: please do enlighten me | 13:11 |
| simplew | lordievader: i didnot said was specificially with kdesudo, read this https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=309233 | 13:11 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 309233 in general "unable to run kde applications from dolphin as root" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 13:11 |
| edgy | Hi, where does klipper stores it's history? | 13:12 |
| simplew | tsimpson: i dont have time for that, i know your trying to help,but im far from being a newbie user | 13:12 |
| tsimpson | simplew: it's odd you say that, because "kcmshell4 userconfig" launches that, and that's not a gnome tool | 13:12 |
| lordievader | simplew: I'm still not clear, does kwrite run at all or does kwrite run as a normal user? | 13:13 |
| simplew | tsimpson: i dont have such module running | 13:13 |
| simplew | lordievader: as regular user all runs as expected | 13:13 |
| tsimpson | that's what launches when you go to System Setting -> User Management | 13:13 |
| simplew | tsimpson: so what package instlal that | 13:14 |
| lordievader | simplew: How does that answer my question? | 13:14 |
| tsimpson | simplew: userconfig | 13:15 |
| simplew | tsimpson: thats a tool i never saw in all years i run kde, but indeed shows some things not available in kuser | 13:17 |
| tsimpson | it's part of the default install | 13:17 |
| simplew | tsimpson: i did installed ubuntu and then isntalled kde packages | 13:18 |
| tsimpson | well it comes with kubuntu-desktop | 13:18 |
| simplew | tsimpson: im now installed the meta package kde-full that will trigger to install all kde packages | 13:19 |
| simplew | lordievader: i think it does | 13:19 |
| tsimpson | simplew: you should get kubuntu-desktop or kubuntu-full to get the default packages | 13:20 |
| tsimpson | it won't be in kde-full | 13:20 |
| lordievader | simplew: Start it from a root dolphin session, and run in a terminal "ps aux|grep kwrite" that will tell you under what user kwrite runs. | 13:21 |
| simplew | tsimpson: kde-full triggers to install all kde packages | 13:21 |
| lordievader | tsimpson: Isn't it part of the KDE software compilation? | 13:21 |
| tsimpson | but not all Kubuntu default packages | 13:21 |
| simplew | tsimpson: already told ya im not a newbie, i know exactly what i do | 13:21 |
| tsimpson | lordievader: no, it's a Kubuntu project | 13:22 |
| lordievader | tsimpson: Didn't know that, good to know, thank you :) | 13:22 |
| tsimpson | simplew: still doesn't mean you'll get userconfig from kde-full | 13:22 |
| simplew | tsimpson: still this tool does not run with kdesudo, to do so i need to run: kdesudo `kcmshell4 userconfig` and still does not appear allowing to modify admin users | 13:22 |
| simplew | but thats not the main issue, the issue is that dolphin as root is not allowing to run kde apps | 13:23 |
| simplew | and in dolphin root i can run non kde apps like gedit, strange isnt it.... | 13:24 |
| tsimpson | kdesudo `kcmshell4 userconfig`? | 13:25 |
| simplew | tsimpson: unbelievable, "kcmshell4 userconfig" it only allow to modify admin users if only running it with sudo, thats shows thats a tool very well developed... | 13:25 |
| tsimpson | simplew: running "kdesudo kcmshell4 userconfig" allows me to modify system users just fine | 13:26 |
| simplew | tsimpson: kdesudo kcmshell4 userconfig does not run | 13:26 |
| tsimpson | it does here | 13:27 |
| lordievader | simplew: I have a feeling something is very funky about your system, the userconfig allows me to edit admin users, no problem. | 13:27 |
| simplew | this is going even better... | 13:27 |
| simplew | lol | 13:27 |
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| simplew | the only thing i did in /etc/sudoers was to set it to NOPASSWD | 13:28 |
| simplew | to stop to allways prompting the user pass | 13:29 |
| tsimpson | I have NOPASSWD in my sudoers too, it's not an issue | 13:30 |
| simplew | of course its not | 13:30 |
| simplew | i was simply saying that was nothing funky in my system, its all default | 13:31 |
| simplew | so something is causing all this mess in KDE/su | 13:32 |
| simplew | i think it will be better to simply get kubuntu iso and do a clean isntall... | 13:32 |
| tsimpson | first you should try installing the kubuntu-desktop package, see if the problem persists | 13:33 |
| simplew | does the kubuntu install allow to install in encrypted LVM partitions? ot its the same as in ubuntu install? | 13:33 |
| tsimpson | it would be the same as ubuntu, they use the same backend for installation | 13:34 |
| simplew | i really dont get how ubuntu still continues using such an installer that does not allow to install encrypted where the other main distros have it, im referring to OpenSuse, Mageia, Fedora... | 13:36 |
| simplew | well lordievader and tsimpson thanks for the support | 13:38 |
| lordievader | simplew: No problem. | 13:39 |
| simplew | who maintains kde-full package? | 13:42 |
| simplew | the only thing i can see in the package info is Maintainer: Kubuntu Developers <kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com> | 13:44 |
| simplew | but this way we cant know which packager is | 13:44 |
| tsimpson | simplew: the Kubuntu Developers team manages it, not a single person | 13:46 |
| simplew | tsimpson: certainly theres a guy who maintains and not the all team | 13:47 |
| simplew | tsimpson: like it uses to happen in all distros | 13:47 |
| tsimpson | the entire point of a team is that there is no one single person responsible for everything | 13:47 |
| tsimpson | the "bus problem" does not apply | 13:48 |
| yofel | simplew: as you can see in the changelog, various people contribute to that | 13:49 |
| tsimpson | the bus problem: only one person does X in a project, that person crosses the road and gets hit by a bus, now no one does X | 13:49 |
| yofel | simplew: as for kde-full though: that package is mostly just taken from debian, it's not changed much in kubuntu | 13:49 |
| simplew | tsimpson: for exmaple in mageia when you query a package it uses to show the packager, for example in Mandriva when quering a KDE package it shows mandriva kde team, and that doesnt mean its a team that meanages all packages, there are packages maintained specific packages | 13:49 |
| tsimpson | there aren't specific maintainers for specific packages, just the person who happens to make a change or upload the package | 13:50 |
| simplew | yofel: still didnt look to changelog, im quiet new to debian packaging/quering tools, im used to rpm, but this http://www.pixelbeat.org/docs/packaging.html is helping me muc | 13:50 |
| yofel | simplew: there's 'apt-get changelog <package>' or you can open /usr/share/doc/<package>/changelog.Debian.gz | 13:51 |
| yofel | latter only if the package is installed | 13:51 |
| simplew | so anyone who belongs to kubuntu packaging team can do changes without asking anything? | 13:51 |
| yofel | yes | 13:52 |
| simplew | weird... | 13:52 |
| simplew | at least for me is, im used to see speciffic packagers, and when one wants to do a change first speaks with the packager in question, thus preventing any conflicts | 13:53 |
| yofel | here we trust people to not do stupid things - or to ask if they're not sure about what they're doing | 13:54 |
| tsimpson | the packages are maintained in bzr branches on launchapd, so it's collaborative but still accountable | 13:54 |
| yofel | and the changelog says who did something | 13:54 |
| simplew | tsimpson: having a changelog doesnt prevent conflicts from happen | 13:54 |
| yofel | as tsimpson said there are bzr branches too, and those usually do prevent that | 13:55 |
| simplew | yofel: but if it has worked so far its because its also a good way i believe :) | 13:55 |
| tsimpson | bzr is a distributed VSC, and having it on LP keeps it centralized | 13:55 |
| yofel | if someone doesn't use them then he did something wrong | 13:55 |
| simplew | yofel: im not familiar with bzr and launchpad... | 13:56 |
| simplew | by the way whats the steps to become a packager? | 13:57 |
| tsimpson | you join #kubuntu-devel and say you'd like to help | 13:57 |
| simplew | tsimpson: isnt there some wiki explaining the steps? | 13:58 |
| tsimpson | probably, but I don't know it off-hand | 13:58 |
| yofel | simplew: there is the packaging guide, but it then depends on the team how you procede after that - for kubuntu do as tsimpson said | 13:59 |
| simplew | yofel: yes i have joined devel channel :) | 13:59 |
| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 14:10 |
| xixor | sup | 14:10 |
| lordievader | Hey BluesKaj, how are you? | 14:11 |
| BluesKaj | hey xixor, lordievader ..doing fine thanks , and you? | 14:12 |
| xixor | ooh, not bad | 14:12 |
| xixor | not digging the weather | 14:12 |
| lordievader | BluesKaj: Doing good too :) | 14:12 |
| BluesKaj | snow there, xixor ? | 14:12 |
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| BluesKaj | just rain and wind here | 14:13 |
| mamoun | Hi, How can I install a source package from kde-look? | 14:19 |
| mamoun | I'm a casual linux user, and I have no idea how to compile this package as it was said when I tried to google for answer | 14:20 |
| mamoun | The package is a begeneric kwin effect package | 14:20 |
| BluesKaj | mamoun, is it a theme? | 14:25 |
| mamoun | BluesKaj: No, it's a kwin plugin/effect | 14:25 |
| frederick | hi, nepomuk consume so much ram | 14:26 |
| BluesKaj | frederick, if you don't need nepomuk , turn it off in systemsettings>desktop search | 14:27 |
| xixor | Neopomuk shouldn't consume that much ram though, right? | 14:28 |
| xixor | isn't it set at 50mb by default? | 14:28 |
| frederick | BluesKaj, thank if i do it, but should be best eficient | 14:28 |
| BluesKaj | xixor, it does because it's linked to akonadi | 14:28 |
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| xixor | oic | 14:30 |
| xixor | I've never understood what akonadi did | 14:30 |
| BluesKaj | !akonadi | 14:30 |
| BluesKaj | no factoid | 14:31 |
| xixor | :( | 14:31 |
| xixor | I've never even figured out how to use desktop search in KDE | 14:31 |
| xixor | so I just disabled it all | 14:31 |
| BluesKaj | akonadi is the dtabase server for kmail, kontact and the PIM package | 14:31 |
| xixor | lol, kmail | 14:33 |
| BluesKaj | xixor, most home users don't need it unless they need to save thousands of emails and conatacts etc | 14:33 |
| xixor | I tried to use kmail... I have zero faith in it. Having it randomly send replies to work emails with my personal account was unacceptable | 14:33 |
| BluesKaj | uhm , no kidding | 14:34 |
| BluesKaj | I tried kmail , but it just segfaults after a few days | 14:35 |
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| BluesKaj | thunderbird does what I need just fine | 14:47 |
| yuri__ | can anyone here help me? | 14:56 |
| BluesKaj | yuri__, depends on your issue , just ask your question | 14:57 |
| yuri__ | cool | 14:57 |
| yuri__ | im trying to install kubuntu to my friend's computer | 14:57 |
| spawn57 | yuri__: cool | 14:58 |
| yuri__ | but unlike my pc, when i go to the installation there is no option to choose how much % of the hard disk the kubuntu will use | 14:58 |
| yuri__ | in other words, my friend has only 2 partitions | 14:58 |
| yuri__ | which is c: obviously and his disk | 14:58 |
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| lordievader | yuri__: If you are confident you can do a manual partitioning. | 14:59 |
| yuri__ | how can i Install kubuntu to only lets say 20 gb of that hard drive | 14:59 |
| yuri__ | and if I am not? | 14:59 |
| BluesKaj | !gparted | 14:59 |
| ubottu | gparted is a !GTK/!Gnome !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php | 14:59 |
| yuri__ | and whats the downside on manual partitioning? | 14:59 |
| yuri__ | in order to manual partition ill need to take some space of c:/ which means formatting it? | 15:00 |
| lordievader | yuri__: It is slightly more complicated, but you get a more flexible install. The automatic doesn't make a seperate /home partition. | 15:00 |
| BluesKaj | no formatting , just resizing | 15:00 |
| lordievader | yuri__: What BluesKaj says. | 15:00 |
| yuri__ | just resizing? | 15:00 |
| yuri__ | hmmm | 15:00 |
| spawn57 | yeah resize it only, format deletes data. | 15:00 |
| yuri__ | yeah i know, but i thought that in order to change the partition sizes, it will have to format | 15:01 |
| spawn57 | and you only format the _new_ partition that you make, not your existing partition | 15:01 |
| yuri__ | ok | 15:01 |
| yuri__ | so i just go to manual partition, take some space out for kubuntu | 15:01 |
| yuri__ | then install it there? | 15:01 |
| lordievader | yuri__: You create 3 partitions in the 20gb, one that mounts to /, one that mounts to /home and a swap partition. | 15:02 |
| yuri__ | when i installed kubuntu in to my pc, i just had to drag my mouse and decide how much gb to give up for kubuntu, why isnt it the same with my friends pc? | 15:02 |
| BluesKaj | lordievader, is it necessary to defrag windows before resizing anymore | 15:02 |
| lordievader | BluesKaj: No idea. | 15:02 |
| yuri__ | <lordievader> - that is too complicated for me, i think ill have to find a diffrent approach | 15:02 |
| lordievader | BluesKaj: I think not, never did that before resizing ntfs partitions. | 15:03 |
| BluesKaj | yuri__, you don't need to have 3 partitions altho it's more efficient for data preservation if you have root partition known as / for the OS and /home partition for your data, and of course a swap partition | 15:06 |
| yuri__ | I see, thanks for the help guys | 15:06 |
| lordievader | Then again swap is also debatable if it is necessary. | 15:07 |
| lordievader | If you have enough RAM and do not care for a /home partition you can make do with just one partition. | 15:07 |
| BluesKaj | or swap file could be made later , they work pretty well too | 15:09 |
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| Kvakz | Is Pulse Audio good at syncing multiroom audio (multiple computers / network sinks)? | 15:18 |
| xixor | BluesKaj: I need more ram. 16Gb is not enough | 15:18 |
| BluesKaj | xixor, heh | 15:19 |
| xixor | I've been eyeing a new system for a while... the i7-3770k looks tempting, but only 32Gb of ram... not sure if it is worth upgrading. The LGA2011 3820 or 3930 look good, but a bit expensive, but can handle 64Gb | 15:21 |
| BluesKaj | Kvakz, what are you using to stream the audio , or do you mean network access to the audio on one pc | 15:21 |
| BluesKaj | xixor, that's a ridiculoius overkill of RAM , unless you have tens of apps all running simultaneously | 15:22 |
| BluesKaj | unless it's a multi networked server | 15:23 |
| HorusHorrendus | hi ... some days ago I got an google alert and found this: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/backports/+build/3933565 | 15:24 |
| HorusHorrendus | I'm really bad at deciphering what happened wrong ... anyone can help me? | 15:24 |
| BluesKaj | why the URL ,whynot just tell us what your issue is, HorusHorrendus | 15:25 |
| HorusHorrendus | BluesKaj: why the build failed | 15:26 |
| HorusHorrendus | but it seems I already found the diff: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/121418774/libmygpo-qt_1.0.6-0ubuntu1_1.0.6-0ubuntu1.1~ubuntu12.10~ppa1.diff.gz | 15:26 |
| tsimpson | the build failed because of the error in the buildlog | 15:27 |
| HorusHorrendus | diff between working version and version that failed to build ... anything I can do here as maintainer | 15:27 |
| HorusHorrendus | or just a packaging error | 15:27 |
| xixor | BluesKaj: Nah, I write some high performance scientific computing algorithms that will take as much ram as you have | 15:27 |
| HorusHorrendus | (maintainer of the lib, not of the package) | 15:27 |
| Kvakz | BluesKaj: I was thinking about sticking a small computer to active speakers, run linux and pulseaudio on them, and have them serve as "wireless speakers". Syncing audio between then (from one source) would be greate, for playing the same music in multiple rooms. | 15:27 |
| xixor | BluesKaj: So you combine that, with a few VMs, and throw some KDE bloat on top, and the amount of ram needed is quite large | 15:27 |
| HorusHorrendus | tsimpson: yeah reading that build log isn't easy, just says sth about symbols file and so on | 15:28 |
| tsimpson | HorusHorrendus: it's sating that debian/libmygpo-qt1.symbols is out of date, so it's a packaging issue | 15:28 |
| Steve132 | I'm trying to add a skype account to telepathy....I installed and configured skype, then installed pidgin-skype package, then added my skype account in telepathy | 15:29 |
| Steve132 | my skype is logged in | 15:30 |
| Steve132 | and it automatically starts skype when it loads | 15:30 |
| Steve132 | but telepathy just says "Connecting..." forever on the account manager page | 15:30 |
| Steve132 | and skype never recieves an api connection request over dbus | 15:30 |
| Steve132 | on kubuntu 12.04 with kopete, skype would recieve an api connection request and allow you to authorize kopete to use it | 15:31 |
| Steve132 | but telepathy doesn't seem to trigger that | 15:31 |
| Steve132 | any thoughts? | 15:31 |
| BluesKaj | xixor, some ppl use CUDA option on their GPUs rather than rely on RAM for computations and number crunching | 15:32 |
| BluesKaj | Steve132, only one , telepathy is buggy | 15:34 |
| xixor | BluesKaj: Yes, that is something I'd like to explore, but the problems I am solving, but the problems themselves do not lend themselves to easily being solved on GPUs, and are too large to fit in GPU memory | 15:34 |
| Steve132 | Ok? | 15:34 |
| Steve132 | lol, thats sorta unhelpful "The default IM doesn't work right" "Well, its buggy" | 15:35 |
| Steve132 | any ideas how to fix it? | 15:35 |
| BluesKaj | the GPU does thw CUDA work xixor, not the memory | 15:35 |
| xixor | BluesKaj: This https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1781062/shot1.png is a relatively small run, only takes 16Gb of ram and running 100% on 12 threads of a 24-thread machine (dual hexcore) | 15:35 |
| xixor | BluesKaj: If the problem is too large to fit on the GPU memory, the amount of time it takes to move data back and forth diminishes any processing speedup of teh GPU | 15:36 |
| tron71 | hi there | 15:38 |
| Steve132 | xixor: that depends on what you are doing | 15:38 |
| BluesKaj | Steve132, it's difficult to solve a problem when the text fields disappear an reappear in differnt parts of the acts page , and that's my experience with telepathy | 15:38 |
| tron71 | has anyone managed to get the KDE widget mublog (aka microblogging) work for twitter? | 15:38 |
| BluesKaj | acts=accts | 15:39 |
| lordievader | xixor: Isn't all that a bit offtopic? | 15:39 |
| HorusHorrendus | yofel: do you think the Ubuntu package of libmygpo-qt could be integrated into debian? ;) | 15:48 |
| HorusHorrendus | ohh and also btw could you fix the ppa package ;) | 15:50 |
| yofel | HorusHorrendus: the package builds have a bug there, but I'll try to fix the PPA at least | 15:51 |
| HorusHorrendus | yofel: where do they have bugs? | 15:51 |
| yofel | HorusHorrendus: as for debian, *I* don't really want to, but that doesn't mean nobody will | 15:51 |
| HorusHorrendus | yofel: well if you could find someone ... | 15:52 |
| HorusHorrendus | ;) | 15:52 |
| HorusHorrendus | with every release I write to the amarok-packagers but no idea who is the debian packager for amarok | 15:52 |
| HorusHorrendus | but that could probably be a good start | 15:52 |
| yofel | I can ask around sure, and at least file an RFP. I just have no intention in maintaining that in debian | 15:53 |
| HorusHorrendus | yofel: no problem, no idea what a RFP is but thanks for any help ;) | 15:53 |
| HorusHorrendus | that could help me convince the Clementine Devs to drop the integrated version of the lib ;) | 15:54 |
| yofel | debian request-for-package | 15:54 |
| HorusHorrendus | yofel: ahh thx | 15:54 |
| yofel | HorusHorrendus: debian maintainer for amarok is the debian kde extras team (pkg-kde-extras@lists.alioth.debian.org) | 15:55 |
| HorusHorrendus | yofel: thx, will write them the rfp then ... | 15:55 |
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| stefan877 | hi, I want install Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 on Kubuntu 12.10, this works with official download from openoffice.org, but OpenOffice looks like Windows 95 style. How to repair that? | 17:04 |
| BluesKaj | stefan877, use libre office , it's the replacement for OO | 17:05 |
| stefan877 | BluesKaj: LibreOffice has some bugs that are not into Openoffice | 17:06 |
| stefan877 | With ubuntu 12.04 and Unity the style is ok | 17:07 |
| stefan877 | but with KDE are there problems... | 17:07 |
| genii-around | stefan877: Use qtcurve to make it look more integrated to Kubuntu | 17:08 |
| BluesKaj | stefan877, perhaps you could explore themes for libreoffice .I'm not very knowledgeable about it | 17:08 |
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| genii-around | stefan877: After you install qtcurve, in System Settings... Common Appearance and Behaviour... Application Appearance ... there will be settings you can tweak for GTK apps under KDE | 17:10 |
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| stefan877 | genii-around: other GTK apps look like KDE apps without qtcurve, too | 17:11 |
| BluesKaj | one would think libreoffice for kde would come with integratiion in the installer | 17:11 |
| stefan877 | genii-around: gtk2-engines-oxygen and gtk3-engines-exygen are already installed | 17:11 |
| stefan877 | genii-around: does qtcurve work in an other way? | 17:12 |
| genii-around | You can specify in the sections GTK+ Appearance and GTK+ Configuration to use the KDE icons, fonts, etc. May need kde-config-gtk | 17:13 |
| genii-around | ( to get those options in System Settings ) | 17:14 |
| stefan877 | oh there a some errors: | 17:14 |
| stefan877 | (soffice:6020): Gtk-WARNING **: /opt/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/ure-link/lib/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.15' not found (required by /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/engines/liboxygen-gtk.so) | 17:14 |
| stefan877 | genii-around: with QTCurve it works, ent the Gtk-WARNING is not there | 17:17 |
| stefan877 | genii-around: but evince looks very bad wit QTCurve | 17:17 |
| stefan877 | I have solved the oxygen problem: | 17:33 |
| stefan877 | sudo mv /opt/openoffice.org/basis3.4/ure-link/lib/libstdc++.so.6 /opt/openoffice.org/basis3.4/ure-link/lib/libstdc++.so.6.def | 17:34 |
| stefan877 | sudo ln -s /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6 /opt/openoffice.org/basis3.4/ure-link/lib/libstdc++.so.6 | 17:34 |
| stefan877 | so the Warning is gone and Windows 95 style, too ;-) | 17:34 |
| stefan877 | genii-around: and bad look with QTCurve was caused by wrong font setting, with the right QTCurve is ok, but I like oxygen more... | 17:36 |
| andyman1 | Hello. I'm getting a brief 'chirp' or crackle of static at the start of every sound playing. For example, if a notification plays, i'll hear *static*"ding". Any ideas how to resolve this? | 17:57 |
| BluesKaj | andyman1, do you have suystem sounds turned on in system settings>application and system notifications>manage notifications>player settings ? | 18:04 |
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| andyman1 | checking | 18:06 |
| stefan877 | thank you... | 18:07 |
| andyman1 | i believe so | 18:08 |
| BluesKaj | andyman1, do you want kde sound system , if not choose the "no audio" option...this is just fir system sounds , it won't affect your media audio players etc | 18:12 |
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| andyman1 | Yes, I'm fine with the default KDE sound system. And it was working fine up until a day or two ago when I upgraded to 12.10. The sounds still work fine, it's just that weird static chirp at the beginning that's a problem | 18:23 |
| BluesKaj | andyman1, is the volume at 100% ? | 18:25 |
| andyman1 | yes | 18:25 |
| BluesKaj | turn the vol down to where the chirping is not apparent . I haven't heard of this problem before so i haven't got a clue how to fix it | 18:29 |
| andyman1 | I fiddled with that, doesn't seem to work. Thanks for the attempt though. I appreciate it :) | 18:31 |
| BluesKaj | andyman1, well ,if the chirping bothers you enough to drop system sounds then you know what to do :) | 18:35 |
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| BluesKaj | !IPsec | 19:34 |
| cab00t | Hello all, I have a question: How do I get my wifi connection to stay connected to the internet when connecting to wiered network (eth0) as well? | 20:51 |
| lordievader | cab00t: Do you have a laptop? | 20:57 |
| cab00t | Yes. | 21:00 |
| cab00t | A wifi card on it connected to an AP, and ethernet trough a router to another pc. | 21:01 |
| cab00t | AP is for the internet obv. | 21:01 |
| lordievader | cab00t: Often on a laptop there is a setting in the BIOS that does this. | 21:01 |
| cab00t | Something like...? | 21:01 |
| lordievader | cab00t: Look in your bios for a wlan/lan switching option. | 21:01 |
| cab00t | Ok? | 21:01 |
| lordievader | cab00t: Do you know how to edit the bios settings? | 21:02 |
| cab00t | Also, what is this under ipv4 / routes / "Use only for resources"? | 21:02 |
| cab00t | Yes ofcourse. | 21:02 |
| lordievader | cab00t: It's not so natural. Where do you see that? | 21:03 |
| cab00t | Connections in the lower right corner of screen, then "Manage Connections", | 21:03 |
| cab00t | Then settings of a connections, then under IPv4 then Routing tab. | 21:04 |
| cab00t | It's being mentioned in a forum post regarding what I need. | 21:04 |
| lordievader | cab00t: Hmm, I'm not sure, perhaps someone else knows? | 21:05 |
| cab00t | I'll be online if someone can help, | 21:06 |
| cab00t | Thank you very much for your time lordievader btw. ) | 21:06 |
| cab00t | :) | 21:06 |
| lordievader | cab00t: No problem, perhaps you can find the answer online... | 21:06 |
| cab00t | Yep, on it in meantime. :) | 21:06 |
| HulkHogan | ? | 21:07 |
| BluesKaj | cab00t, my laptop auto disables the wifi connection when an ethernet cable is plugged in . | 21:13 |
| cab00t | It's the same case I suppose, but do you know how to disable that? | 21:14 |
| BluesKaj | I think the setting is called auto connect , there might be an option to run both at once , but I haven't checked that | 21:14 |
| cab00t | I think that means you automatically connect if a known network is available? | 21:15 |
| BluesKaj | unfortunately the laptop is elsewhere atm | 21:15 |
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| cab00t | Trying this one thing, might get dc. :) | 21:16 |
| lordievader | cab00t: I already told you, you need to go to the bios and change the setting. | 21:17 |
| cab00t | Alright, I found it, | 21:17 |
| cab00t | No, there's another way, | 21:17 |
| cab00t | You need to edit the "Wired Connection 1" or however it's called, and go to IPv4 / Routing / "only use this connection for resources on its network" . | 21:18 |
| cab00t | That's it, I'm connected to both atm. :) | 21:18 |
| lordievader | Oh well on my laptop, it is that setting, with it turned on the wifi gets hard-blocked.' | 21:18 |
| lordievader | cab00t: But I stand corrected, good to know though :) | 21:19 |
| cab00t | Was probably something more specific, thanks for suggesting it anyway. :) Ye, something new every day, esp with Linux I guess... | 21:20 |
| cab00t | :P | 21:20 |
| cab00t | My browser seemes to have stopped working though... :\ | 21:21 |
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| uglyoldbob_ | how can I use ffmpeg to convert from 15 to 30fps, and not have the video be twice as fast? | 22:28 |
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| f91w | #tcl | 23:59 |
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