[14:16] <ActionParsnip> loving the new release.Got rid of lxpanel and am running xcompmgr to run docky (looks like a mac)
[14:17] <holstein> hehe... lets see a screenie ActionParsnip .. sounds cool
[14:18] <holstein> im using xcompmgr too.. in openbox
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> let me make one:)
[14:20] <bioterror> I'm not
[14:20] <bioterror> waste of 3D resources for nothing
[14:21] <holstein> yup.. unless you need simple 3d
[14:21] <bioterror> I rather want my OpenRA and AssaultCube to run smoothly :-)
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/raring.png
[14:26] <bioterror> horrible orange icons
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> orange and brown go together
[14:30] <bioterror> I can share mine: http://ricecows.org/video.png ;)
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> bioterror: don't you find the cyan burning with all the black?
[14:30] <bioterror> nope
[14:31] <bioterror> only google.com burns :D
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> unless its mail.google.com ;)
[14:32] <bioterror> I have tweaked my facebook from white bg ground color into gray
[14:33] <bioterror> -ground
[14:33] <bioterror> I can stalk people even when lights are out!
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> using beautify facebook?
[14:33] <bioterror> purity
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> looks ok
[14:43] <mika__> hi guys, I'm migrating from kubuntu to lubuntu on and old pc (kubuntu is just killing it)... quick question, what should I use for download pictures from the camera (gui app) and for open presentations (the bad old ppt/pptx)?
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> mika__: does it show in pcmanfm?
[14:45] <mika__> ActionParsnip: the camera? I don't know, I'm currently downloading the lubuntu.iso
[14:46] <holstein> mika__: if you are "migrating", just use the kde app for now
[14:46] <holstein> i usually just open the device as a hard drive, and pull the files over
[14:47] <mika__> holstein: I was hoping for something like digikam (it's my mom's pc)
[14:48] <mika__> without having to install all the qt and digikam dependencies :)
[14:48] <holstein> mika__: i dont know what digikam is or does, but we have lots of apps.. do you have a screenshot? or can you eleborate as to what work flow you are looking for?
[14:49] <mika__> http://www.digikam.org/drupal/node/328
[14:49] <holstein> mika__: i would just use digikam
[14:49] <holstein> should be less deps than what you would get with a kde app
[14:50] <mika__> it shows you the various photo and you can simply select and download them, without doing any copy-paste from the filemanager
[14:50] <holstein> mika__: shouldnt be much more than what i woud expect installing a large monolithic app with this functionality
[17:25] <infectedorganism> which would everyone say is more integrated with lubuntu, lxde, and pcmanfm.. ubuntu one, or dropbox?
[17:27] <holstein> infectedorganism: i have used both.. i usually go with dropbox since i use it more... i looked at how crunchbang was implementing dropbox
[17:28] <infectedorganism> okay. i'll also take a look at how crunchbang implements dropbox
[17:28] <infectedorganism> thanks
[19:42] <tweakster> since Lubuntu is continually getting updated whenever I have automatic updates set to occur, why does the version number not change from, say, 12.04 to 12.10 after all the updates get applied?
[19:43] <holstein> tweakster: there are updates to 12.04.. you are still on 12.04. just with updates
[20:33] <bizhanMona> hi
[20:35] <Oe_eden> hi
[20:35] <Oe_eden> I was just wondering why obkey isnt included in lubuntu or even in the debian repos
[20:35] <Oe_eden> because it is awesome
[20:36] <Oe_eden> snap windows works like a charm (partly thanks to obkey): https://plus.google.com/103155108926231686421/posts/ScNZCzGyfX7
[20:37] <holstein> Oe_eden: i think its just too new? not sure.. you can file a "feature request" bug... i would go right to debian though, thats the quickest way to get it in
[20:37] <Oe_eden> actually it is kind of old I think: http://code.google.com/p/obkey/
[20:38] <Oe_eden> The latest version is 1.0 (looks stable). Development is halted.
[20:39] <holstein> Oe_eden: maybe thats whey... if its vapor ware and no one takes it on for maintenance
[20:39] <Oe_eden> since its MIT license one is free to fork it ;)
[20:39] <holstein> sure...
[20:40] <Oe_eden> but say I file it as a FR with debian
[20:40] <holstein> if its dead, its dead.. they wont take it on likely
[20:41] <Oe_eden> aha
[20:42] <Oe_eden> but how does something like that work normally:  say  obkey should become part of the start menu under preferences
[20:42] <Oe_eden> add it to the debian repo (debian folks)
[20:42] <Oe_eden> and than lubuntu folks ?
[20:42] <Oe_eden> then
[20:42] <holstein> Oe_eden: debian would put it it, then we get it.. you can get it put in ubuntu too, but the prefered way is debian to ubuntu
[20:42] <holstein> lubuntu is ubuntu
[20:45] <Oe_eden> hmm I have never asked myself this question before: but what line in my /etc/apt/sources.list makes lubuntu, lubuntu?
[20:45] <Oe_eden> it are all just regular ubuntu repos
[20:45] <Oe_eden> oh wait
[20:46] <Oe_eden> that is the installer file
[20:46] <Oe_eden> after that it is all regular debian/ubuntu repos
[20:46] <Oe_eden> right?
[20:48] <holstein> Oe_eden: ubuntu has "official" repos.. lubuntu uses them
[20:48] <holstein> all the lxde and lubuntu stuff is in there
[20:48] <holstein> you dont need lubuntu specific sources
[20:49] <Oe_eden> yes so therefore i was wondering where/what it is that makes lubuntu -> lubuntu
[20:49] <Oe_eden> but that is all in the installer i guess
[20:49] <holstein> the lubuntu desktop
[20:49] <holstein> lxde.. all the apps... alsa only instead of pulse
[20:49] <holstein> the theme
[20:49] <Oe_eden> yes exactly, specific choices
[21:06] <OpenSorce> Having trouble getting a stylus to work in 10.04. It's a fujitsu stylus, I've done the setserial and installed fpit. I know the device is working because when I do cat /dev/ttyS0 and move the pen on the screen I get output. Any help?
[21:07] <holstein> i might load up a 12.04 live CD and see if it works. and if so, how it is getting support
[21:20] <OpenSorce> Having trouble getting a stylus to work in 10.04. It's a fujitsu stylus, I've done the setserial and installed fpit. I know the device is working because when I do cat /dev/ttyS0 and move the pen on the screen I get output. Any help?
[21:35] <Gosy-> how do i identify myself on freenode :$
[21:40] <tweakster> I would like to prevent the Power Management program from running at startup. I see reference to it in "/etc/xdg/lxsession/Lubuntu/autostart", where I see a line like this: @xfce4-power-manager. Is there any reason I cannot simply use a text editor to remark that line out with a hash mark (i.e., #) at the beginning of the line? Or would there be somewhere else to change also?
[21:55] <zleap> ok