[05:21] morning all [06:02] morning Kilos [06:20] superfly, kde doesnt come from canonical anymore does it? [06:21] KDE never came from Canonical, but Kubuntu is not a Canonical project anymore, no. [06:21] It is now sponsored by another Linux company [06:22] oh i have a old kde cd here still so thought they used to supply them to locos [06:22] Kilos: KDE is the desktop environment, Kubuntu is the distro. KDE existed long before Kubuntu. [06:23] oh i mean kubuntu [06:26] 9.10 it is. couldnt get nm working then either [06:26] hehe [06:28] eish the states getting thumped by that bad weather thing [06:28] hope mrs_fly s family is on the other side [06:28] They're FAR away from any action [06:29] yay === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za [06:29] watched the news now in a language i dont talk but lucky tv gives video coverage [06:33] hey there SmilyBorg_w [06:33] Hey [06:33] lol === SmilyBorg_w is now known as SmilyBorg [06:43] hi jrgns [06:43] morning Kilos [06:49] hi Trixar_za whats news with that network manager you tried [06:51] Not much. I did fix the bug I accidentally left in sakis3g though [06:52] my sakis works on kubuntu but it doesnt allow mxit on pidgin [06:53] mxit on pidgin works fine for me [06:53] ya for ian as well. just here it sukkels for some strange reason [06:54] ian had it on kde as well but came right on its own [06:55] sakis3g is all i could get working on kde except the nm sees the cellphone first time [06:56] hi [06:56] just doesnt even see 3g modem [06:56] hi Squirm [06:59] Happens. USB_Modeswitch recently updated so hopefully some of that will be fixed in newer linux distros [06:59] It updated the 15th of last month, so it may have sneaked into the latest Ubuntu [07:01] you think the debug package could help fix it? [07:01] i got tons of 12.04 packages that saves me downloading [07:02] can do clean install update/upgrade with 35 mB [07:03] good morning [07:03] hi inetpro lekker rain hey [07:03] 18mm last night again [07:13] Kilos: sjoe [07:13] * inetpro only had 5 [07:20] ai === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za [09:07] * inetpro super upset [09:09] someone stole my sons mobile phone out of his school bag this morning while he was playing games on the field [09:17] eish [09:46] hi psydroid [09:59] hi Kilos [10:01] good morning [10:01] Maaz: coffee on [10:01] * Maaz starts grinding coffee [10:02] Maaz, coffee please [10:02] Kilos: Done [10:03] hey charlvn [10:05] Coffee's ready for charlvn and Kilos! [10:06] Maaz, ty [10:06] You are welcome Kilos [10:20] hi Kilos [10:20] Maaz: thanks [10:20] charlvn: Sure [10:37] hi [10:37] hi kapil [10:37] can i have use dreamweaver? [10:38] in ubuntu? [10:38] hi [10:39] http://www.noob2geek.com/linux/how-to-install-and-run-dreamweaver-cs4-in-ubuntu/ [10:39] hi [10:39] hi again [10:39] lol [10:40] Maaz, google using dreamweaver in ubuntu [10:40] Kilos: "How to install and run Dreamweaver CS4 in Ubuntu -- noob2geek" http://www.noob2geek.com/linux/how-to-install-and-run-dreamweaver-cs4-in-ubuntu/ :: "How To Install Dreamweaver CS3 In Ubuntu Hardy" http://maketecheasier.com/how-to-install-dreamweaver-cs3-in-ubuntu-hardy/2008/06/20 :: "Basic Web Development IDE/Editor like Dreamweaver? - Ask Ubuntu" [10:40] http://askubuntu.com/questions/59632/basic-web-development-ide-editor-like-dreamweaver :: "Is there… [10:40] yes [10:41] look at those links kapil , maybe you lucky [10:41] where are you? [10:41] yes [10:41] where dowanload link? [10:42] im sure one of the above links will explain it [10:43] kilos i can't found this link [10:44] plz one link for download [10:44] http://maketecheasier.com/how-to-install-dreamweaver-cs3-in-ubuntu-hardy/2008/06/20 [10:44] i havent read them [10:45] kapil, where are you? [10:46] yes [10:46] yes what? [10:46] this is only insatll process... not a download [10:46] ..... [10:46] kapil: what are you looking for? [10:47] oh dont they explain how [10:48] kapil, try this one http://www.unixmen.com/install-dreamweaver-cs4-in-ubuntudebian/ [10:49] zeref, he is looking for a dreamweaver download for ubuntu [10:49] kapil: there are a ton of good open source alternatives that run natively on linux - http://askubuntu.com/questions/59632/basic-web-development-ide-editor-like-dreamweaver [10:50] dreamweaver does not run nativley on linux which means you will need to run it inside a windows virtual machine or an emulator [10:50] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Dreamweaver <- only lists Microsoft Windows and Mac OS X as supported platforms [10:52] ty charlvn [10:52] sorry kilos [10:52] noting [10:52] np kapil [10:52] we try to help [10:53] me anyway [10:53] once again where are you? [10:53] kapil: if you absolutely insist on running dreamweaver on wine then you can purchase + download dreamweaver from adobe.com [10:53] first time here? [10:53] not a download file [10:54] not sure what you mean [10:56] only a free triasl version i find with maaz [10:56] Maaz, google is dreamweaver free software [10:56] Kilos: "HTML editor software, web design software | Adobe Dreamweaver ..." http://www.adobe.com/products/dreamweaver.html :: "Adobe - Download free trial version Adobe Dreamweaver CS6 | Adobe" http://www.adobe.com/go/devcenter_dw_try/ :: "Adobe Dreamweaver CS5.5 - CNET Download.com" http://download.cnet.com/Adobe-Dreamweaver-CS5-5/3000-10247_4-10013427.html :: [10:56] "Free Web Design Software - As good as DreamWeaver - YouTube" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=… [10:58] yes but i have install in ubuntu [10:59] using wine? [11:00] kapil: dreamweaver is not free softwrae, it is a commercial product developed and sold by adobe [11:01] kapil: in principle, it is possible to run it inside ubuntu, but you still need to pay for dreamweaver itself even though you run it inside an open source operating system [11:03] ok [11:04] kapil: you can find out more about free and open source software on the wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_and_open-source_software [11:05] one question can i have use in editpluse? [11:05] according to the wikipedia it only runs on windows: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EditPlus [11:06] once again, you could try to run it inside of wine or windows in a VM [11:06] but, i would recommend finding an open source alternative - there are a ton of really good editors for linux [11:09] hi maiatoday [11:09] hi charlvn [11:09] hiya maiatoday [11:09] hey Kilos [11:14] ok [11:15] funny fella [11:15] where are you --- yes [11:16] Kilos: i don't think (s)he could speak english properly [11:16] a problem in a (mainly) english-speaking channel :) [11:17] ya but then say so [11:17] yup [11:17] we dont chase foreign peeps [11:18] yeah weird [11:18] yeah, besides, i am a "foreign" in this channel :) [11:18] and i don't get chased out :P{ [11:18] lol was just gonna say we even keep you on [11:18] :D [11:23] hmm.... [11:24] who's chasing away foreigners? [11:25] Kilos: while I'm having a quick lunch break I want to pick your brain on some farming issues :-) [11:25] I have these dark green weeds taking over on my lawn, those that develop into thorny buggers [11:26] not sure what they are called, but how do I get rid of them? [11:26] apart from digging each and everyone of them out by the roots [11:26] poison them? [11:26] s/by the roots/with roots and all/ [11:27] what can i try help you with inetpro [11:27] banweed [11:27] kills most other weeds even bubbeltjies and not the lawn [11:27] Kilos: that a poison of some sort? [11:28] yip [11:28] cool [11:28] * inetpro shall have to make a trip to the corporation and get that [11:28] i think banweed is the only one that kills dubbeltjies [11:29] this stuff has suddenly taken over my lawn with all the rain [11:29] * plustwo can use banweed to kill smoke weed... [11:29] lol [11:29] they make a long thick root thats hard to get out as it goes quite deep [11:29] Kilos: exactly [11:30] apart from banweed only way is to break a fork so only got 2 centre spines and then dig them out [11:30] banweed kills from the leaves down [11:30] what do you call dubbeltjies in english [11:30] %&^*$% [11:30] usually [11:30] paper thorns methinks [11:30] * inetpro struggling to find a picture of these little weeds [11:31] http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/dubbeltjie [11:31] ahh got it, http://content62.eol.org/content/2009/09/08/02/19818_580_360.jpg [11:32] Alternanthera pungens [11:33] see if wikipedia has what banweed kills [11:33] all broadleaf stuff far as i member [11:35] looks like I need a product containing Dicamba, 2-4D and MCPA [11:36] are those dubbeltjies [11:36] i think 2-4d has been banned hasnt it [11:37] Kilos: I don't know what it's called locally but on the web you can also find it as Khaki bur weed [11:38] Kilos: thanks [11:39] at least I have a better idea now [11:40] im sure banweed will kill that too inetpro and only yellow the grass for a while [11:41] other poisons kill the grass too [11:41] ok [11:42] good luck. nothing worse that getting thorns in bare feed on your own lawn [11:42] this stuff took over especially after the dry season killed a lot of the existing lawn [11:42] first one foot then next step the other one so you hobble on heals [11:42] hehe [11:42] or sit and get them in bum too [11:43] yep, I'll have to make a plan before they develop flowers and thorns [11:43] still very green and soft now [11:48] banweed is expensive though if i member right [11:49] we dig them one by one now [11:49] i think even checkers keeps it [11:50] sjoe, sal kyk [11:51] swwaar se dis bubbletjies [11:51] swaar [11:52] then banweed is definitlety the answer [11:56] thanks [11:59] yw [12:26] hmmm [12:27] i think our res admins are smoking some hashesh [12:28] eg: there are two types of single rooms: small and Extra large? [12:29] sharing rooms: small, medium and large???? [12:57] hello nlsthzn hows ya [12:59] alo uncle Kilos [12:59] I am good and you? [12:59] good ty [13:00] flu wearing out [13:04] glad to hear [13:06] ty [13:14] Kilos: raining by you as well? [13:14] yeah just had about 3 mm [13:15] small hail just came down here in the city for just about a minute or less [13:15] bmg505, have you hams got a way of checking if someone is still alive [13:16] old hams i mean [13:17] ZS5RX [13:18] Kilos: what are you talking about? [13:19] amateaur radio peeps [13:19] called hams [13:19] ahh [13:19] dunno why its called amateur radio. the mostly clued up guys [13:30] o [13:30] cq? cq? [13:31] ds zs1jpm [13:31] Kilos, don't really know [13:32] hehe [13:32] cq dx [13:32] but if a quy goes silent key (euphemism for dead) it is published in the radio ZS [13:32] brings back memories from way back then [13:33] hmmm [13:33] Kerbero, you one too? [13:34] goodness me [13:34] jip [13:34] from there the "ds zs1jpm" [13:34] if i have the sintax correnct now [13:34] ya [13:36] so look inna book sometime and see if ZS5RX is still alive please [13:37] yeah i had the sintax wrong [13:37] *de [13:37] de zs1jpm [13:37] he must be a real ballie by now [13:37] ok [13:37] ty [13:37] http://www.sarl.org.za/callresponse.asp?Callsign=ZS6RX [13:38] it would seem so yes [13:38] zs6rx is his new call sign [13:38] thats 6 no 5 [13:38] he was in natal [13:38] near where magespawn is now [13:40] Old Callsign = ZS5RX, New Callsign = ZS6RX [13:40] according to the database [13:41] oh my goodness how can they change it [13:41] do they change if you move [13:43] wow the internet clever hey [13:43] yes [13:43] different number for almost every province [13:43] pity they dont give an email addy for him [13:43] i am 1 as i am in the western cape [13:44] 6 must be tvl [13:45] maar hulle gee die posadres, so is dit nie genoeg nie? [13:45] waar [13:45] wag ek lees mooi weer [13:46] o ja [13:47] epos beter. slakke pos baie werk [13:54] nou sous dit hier [13:56] pap en sous [13:56] seker darm nie so erg soos in new york nie [13:57] nee dit lyk sleg daar [14:01] 7 mm in 10 mins [14:02] lekker for us [14:02] must be by goosies place now [14:02] blew that way [14:02] gonna water his dubbeltjies [14:05] dmesg [14:36] wow im still getting feedback on https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/848164 [14:37] auto connect still not sorted in 12.04 [14:37] they say the workaround im using is ok but not good enough [14:37] its supposed to work [14:38] hey tumbleweed where you now? [14:38] Kilos: I guess he is in Copenhagen, Denmark [14:39] whew globetrotter [14:39] Ubuntu Developer Summit (UDS) 29 Oct - 1 Nov [14:40] gee i hope they fix the nm [14:40] was a poor show on 12.04 [14:42] programme for today: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-r/2012-10-30/ [14:59] hello [15:07] Kilos: yeah, copenhagen [15:08] enjoy tumbleweed [15:28] how is it going Kilos and tumbleweed ? [15:28] hi there kbmonkey wb [15:28] im ok ty and you [15:28] the weed far away [15:29] copenhagen [15:29] dev week [15:29] its a good thing they have irc there too ;) [15:29] lol [15:29] he got a fancy fone with ubuntu on [15:30] *jealous face* [15:30] haha [15:31] you well kbmonkey ? [15:32] you really gotta sort that job of yours out so you get irc anytime [15:32] yes Kilos. but it does not feel there is enough time in the day to play on linux ;) [15:32] what kinda geek are you [15:32] lol [15:32] tough in africa [15:32] they went on to some hosted proxy so now everything is blocked :( [15:33] hack it [15:33] or bypass it [15:34] the building has some radiation-proof shielding so not even phone can get online [15:34] hmm [15:34] *probably bad signal but that sounds cooler [15:35] D [15:35] :D [15:35] run your own cable out ore use lotsa blueteeth things [15:35] radiation proof shielding... i was about to ask where you work :) [15:35] hehe [15:35] for which government installation are you at [15:36] the one where all the aliens work ;) [15:36] ha ha ha [15:36] ET fone home [15:37] et fone irc [15:37] hey wasn't ET a monkey?! [15:51] no man he was an alien [15:52] Hodgestar, did you win with 12.10? [15:54] ya Banlam bakuman wen julle [15:54] ya/ja [15:54] daai ding [15:56] kbmonkey: not bad at all [16:05] hehe superfly i have 0AD running but very slow. cpu set to 3.2g and 1.5gB ram [16:05] what kinda pc does it wanna see [16:06] Kilos: probably something with a better graphics card [16:06] got that nvidia fx 5500 [16:06] Kilos: see if you can go into the settings and lower the graphics [16:06] hrm... that should be OK [16:06] Kilos: using the proprietary drivers? [16:07] yip nvidia 173 [16:07] the settings button doesnt give much . check blocks for shadows etc. tried them all [16:08] maybe looking in wrong place [16:08] but seems a lot like aoe and i think i will enjoy it [16:08] Kilos: Mediumly. I'm using Gnome Shell at the moment. [16:08] Kilos: It's been okay so far. [16:09] lol Hodgestar you also not a unity fan [16:09] hehe [16:09] im getting used to it [16:09] I'm fine with the concept of Unity, it's just the execution that I'm unhappy with. [16:10] the dash thing [16:10] it is a bit wasteful timewise needing to click twice what used to be 1 click [16:11] but they must have a plan in mind [16:11] so will follow and see [16:22] wbb [17:26] hi :) [17:37] hurrmmmmm [17:43] hi oom kilos :p [17:44] hi smileE17 [17:44] do you like 'oom kilos' or should i just say 'kilos' : [17:44] :p [17:44] lol doesnt matter to me laddy [17:44] you all my friends [17:44] okay :) [17:45] good evening [17:45] hi smileE17, Kilos, zeref, Hodgestar [17:45] its part of our culture/upbringing in south africa [17:45] hi charlvn :D [17:45] if someone is 10 years or more older than you you call him oom/uncle [17:45] Kilos: should I take news24 for truuth? :p [17:45] hi charlvn [17:46] news24? [17:46] smileE17: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ballie [17:46] smileE17: depends [17:46] lol [17:46] thank you, charlvn :) [17:46] smileE17: i'm saying this under correction but afaik the news in south africa is government censored [17:47] mosdtyly ya [17:47] smileE17: i look at international media more for objective news about south africa [17:47] whew [17:47] mostly [17:47] charlvn: what about todays news article at news24 about the percentages of white/black/other people? [17:48] smileE17: for example: http://youtu.be/YUGiKFDfW_4 [17:48] See http://afrikaans.news24.com/Suid-Afrika/Nuus/Byna-80-van-SA-bevolking-is-swart-20121030 [17:48] thats about right [17:48] Okay :) [17:48] whites are in the minority [17:48] smileE17: the authority on those matters is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statistics_South_Africa [17:49] * smileE17 is in the minority :( [17:49] hehe [17:49] from the wikipedia article: "Statistics South Africa has been criticized for not producing accurate figures on immigration[2] and inflation.[3]" [17:49] but that on its own doesn't say much [17:50] well they just aren't too well organised, I think :p [17:50] smileE17: also see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_South_Africa#Racial_groups [17:50] otherwise they could produce those numbers [17:50] charlvn: thank you, you are very kind :) [17:50] not 100% sure about accuracy but 80% sounds about right to me [17:51] maybe more. last i heard we were under 4 mill [17:51] and total over 40 mill [17:51] well that's about 10% whites, but that makes sense [17:51] there is about 10% of non-whites non-blacks [17:51] quite a few indians in between [17:52] mostly the so-called "coloureds" and indians yes [17:53] :) [17:53] how did your day go, Kilos & charlvn ? :) [17:53] good good, very productive actually [17:53] good ty smileE17 [17:53] just 0AD is slow [17:54] will look into it next month [17:54] 0AD? [17:54] zero AD [17:54] game in repos [17:54] ah ok [17:54] never played it [17:54] like aoe [17:54] brb [17:54] actually looks promising [17:55] charlvn: what did you do today? :p [17:55] he worked [17:55]