[00:00] <sepoki> case it returns string ?
[00:00] <Kuwanger> I've been having some trouble on this system.  It keeps cutting out my usb devices.  Like, my keyboard/mouse/wifi will just stop working, and I'll unplug/plug them back in and they'll stay not working.  If I use a hub, sometimes they'll start working again.  I know the system is still working because the clock keeps running in the taskbar.
[00:00] <scatterp> msg nickserv identify magic123
[00:01] <scatterp> hi "lsmod" lists all currently running drivers  but how can i see a list of available drivers so i know what i could load ?
[00:01] <trism> sepoki: in case the path has spaces
[00:01] <sepoki> trism, nice
[00:02] <pepee> Kuwanger, post the dmesg in pastebin
[00:02] <pepee> Kuwanger, is the system underpowered or something?
[00:02] <blackshirt> scatterp, look it in /lib/modules
[00:03] <scatterp> thanks
[00:03] <almigi> Red_M: glad you "resolved" the problem. (ok, I know, bad pun)
[00:03] <Kuwanger> pepee: The dmesg doesn't show anyting of interest.  This is a 4 core 2.1GHz system.  I can post my current dmesg to give you some idea of what it is.
[00:04] <blackshirt> scatterp, usually under linux dir
[00:04] <pepee> scatterp, modprobe -l
[00:05] <pepee> scatterp, it's a long list
[00:05] <scatterp> aha jackpot :)
[00:05] <Kuwanger> pepee:   http://pastebin.com/E5MVspni
[00:05] <pepee> Kuwanger, did you check lsusb after they stop working?
[00:06] <Meris> My main desktop running just had a massive freeze which could only be resolved by physically pressing the power button for a few seconds. It was not only a UI interface issue, I could not even login remotely from another computer in my LAN. The most worrying thing: nothing shows up in the main log files, just a time lapse of about 6 minutes... Could this be hardware related?
[00:07] <pepee> Meris, you can try debugging it remotely
[00:07] <pepee> Meris, can you reproduce the freeze easily?
[00:08] <jacobrask> Hm, I think I just bricked my brand new macbook air
[00:08] <Kuwanger> pepee: Not that I recall.  :/  The system doesn't have PS/2 ports, so there's no way to go that route.  And if it starts working again, it seems to act like nothing happened. I'll try lsusb next time if I can.  I do know that when I tried to ssh in one time, it ssh'ed in fine and promptly dropped the connect and stopped responding to pings even.
[00:08] <pepee> Kuwanger, yeah, there is no info in that log
[00:08] <pepee> Kuwanger, ah, duh, yeah, you can't do that without a keyboard
[00:08] <Linkandzelda> can enyone help me to fix a broken tightvnc?
[00:08] <pepee> Kuwanger, can you do it remotely?
[00:09] <Kuwanger> pepee: Like I was saying, last time I tried, the ssh connection aborted. :/
[00:09] <scatterp> where would i find the source for /lib/modules/3.2.0-31-generic/kernel/drivers/media/video/gspca/gspca_mr97310a.ko ?
[00:10] <blackshirt> scatterp, they resides on your kernel sources
[00:10] <PatrickDickey> scatterp, do you have linux-source installed? It'll be in there. Under drivers/media/video/gspca
[00:10] <Kuwanger> pepee: Next time it happens, I'll try again and be sure to try to do a lsusb and do another dmesg and hopefully it'll give more info.
[00:10] <javierf_> Hi! Is there a way to use Equinox themes on GTK 3.4 (ubuntu 12.10)? thanks!
[00:10] <Meris> pepee, no I cannot. I have a hunch that it is somehow related to my SATA controls. The last thing I could do before the freeze was unmounting(from fuseblk) an ntfs-3g formatted external USB drive. It is not the first time this has happened, 2 days ago  I had the exact same issue. Nothing shows up in the logs about impending failing hardware or repeated login attempts from outside. My SSH connections are strictly LAN-only
[00:11] <baskak> hi, while upgrading to 12.10 i lost my gnome classic/compiz settings. perhaps it has something to do with the gdm/lightdm question i encountered during upgrade, but it didn't make any sense to me
[00:12] <pepee> Meris, Kuwanger , can you try this?  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Netconsole
[00:14] <Guest22330> ubuntu has a good gui and system of control once you get use to it
[00:14] <Guest22330> im computer savvy so i just need to wonder around a new system a bit to figure it out
[00:15] <Meris> pepee, I'll try a netconsole line to my old PIII lappy
[00:15] <pepee> Meris, Kuwanger , ubuntu 12.10? what kernel?  tried searching for reported bugs in launchpad?
[00:16] <Meris> pepee, I'm using Ubuntu 12.04, running kernel: 3.2.0-32-generic #51-Ubuntu SMP
[00:16] <Jeagar>  greetings, i'm working on a debian for android project. I've run into a small snag, perhaps you can help, include your hame if you want a design credit. please fwd data and http links to    magizian@gmail.com  , thanks.  specificly, networking isnt passing via qemu between target and host. network started and ifconfig loopback only registers and data not passing. thinking i need qemu -net string and possibly a linux qemu compatablr vm driver in .deb/.rpm on a
[00:17] <pepee> Meris, you can even do that with a smartphone too :P
[00:18] <svspl> there is 3.2.0-33 already
[00:18] <Kuwanger> pepee: 12.04.  I found an interesting bug about irqbalance... I wonder if it's related. :/
[00:19] <bekor> hi friends using ubuntu 12.04.trying to find some secret trick to get my boot faster.using ubuntu 12.04.boot up is very slow
[00:19] <Meris> pepee, a smartphone you say? I'm running Android 2.36 here (not-rooted (yet) )Any suggestions for a usable app?
[00:19] <PatrickDickey> I had a similar issue to Meris and Kuwanger for a while with my E-machines. I think in the end, it was a motherboard issue (as the motherboard eventually died). I'm not saying that's their problem, but since I changed to a new motherboard (new computer), I haven't had the issues.
[00:20] <pepee> Meris, well, I suppose that as long as you can get a console in it, you can do it with it
[00:20] <Kuwanger> pepee: Hmm..too bad I don't see to have irqbalance. :/  And noapic doesn't seem to work--loapic is I think a thing newer amd cpus use.
[00:20] <LucidGuy> Got me an 8.10(intrepid) server…  recommendations on fastest way to upgrade to 12.04?
[00:20] <Kuwanger> PatrickDickey: Well, this is a new system (I bought it just a few months ago). :/  Not to say you're wrong, but I'm not sure how to test i.
[00:20] <bekor> slow boot , 12.04 any wisdom?
[00:22] <Kuwanger> pepee: Anyways, I'll look into netconsole if ssh doesn't work again.  Thanks for the help.  Hopefully I'll have more of an idea if it happens again.
[00:23] <pepee> Kuwanger, do you have windows and/or other OSes in it?
[00:23] <pepee> it's easy to spot hardware problem when you use more than 1 OS
[00:23] <Meris> pepee, I'm probably a bit old fashioned here. When you are talking consoles, I'm thinking of RS232 cables and a PPP connection. My desktop does not have any RS232 ports, just USB and two network adapters. When my desktop was frozen, I could still ping it, so my NIC was working properly, while my SSH session was not (my desktop did not close the connection though, it just sat there and waited until the client imed out)
[00:23] <PatrickDickey> Kuwanger: that's why I threw it out as a suggestion/experience only. ;-) In my case, I'm about 99% sure it was the motherboard, because I moved the drives to the new computer and ran them without any problems.
[00:24] <Kuwanger> pepee: No.  Just Ubuntu.
[00:24] <Meris> PatrickDickey, I would hate it to be a mobo issues, as I have an important exam coming up...
[00:24] <pepee> Meris, ah, sorry, I don't really know what's a console or a terminal, why they are called that way
[00:24] <Meris> PatrickDickey, issues => issue
[00:25] <pepee> btw did you both try the REISUB trick?
[00:25] <pepee> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key#Uses
[00:26] <Kuwanger> pepee: Yea, that doesn't work.  The keyboard is quite dead.   Numlock is stuck off when it happens.
[00:26] <Meris> pepee, think of a console as a dumb television with a keyboard and a RS232 port along with a rudimentary processor to translate the RX/ TX signals into characters on the screen. Not much else.
[00:27] <Meris> pepee, that would be a *classic* console, of course ;-)
[00:27] <vicTROLLA> Having trouble with a PXE setup. My preseed file is failing because the OS I'm installing over has LVM data that spans both physical drives. For some reason the installer doesn't want to delete this data. Any ideas?
[00:28] <pepee> Meris, there is a terminal app for android. there is sshdroid as a ssh server and connectbot as ssh client
[00:30] <Meris> pepee, an SSH client would do no good here, as my sshd was malfunctioning as part of the "freeze"
[00:30] <pepee> Meris, you would have to connect through wifi, and I suppose the wifi will be still working
[00:31] <pepee> but there is a problem, phones deactivate wifi when idling
[00:33] <const_antine> Hi, I changed /etc/resolv.conf settings for what i presume is a network manager
[00:34] <cowsquad> is any experiencing this error: System program problem detected. Do you want to report the problem now?
[00:34] <baskak> hi, while upgrading to 12.10 i lost my gnome classic/compiz settings. perhaps it has something to do with the gdm/lightdm question i encountered during upgrade, but it didn't make any sense to me
[00:34] <cowsquad> I am on ubuntu 12.10
[00:34] <const_antine> how do i make the new router address in resolv.conf take effect w/o restarting network manager?
[00:34] <const_antine> it rebuilds the .conf file and wipes out my changes
[00:35] <PatrickDickey> const_antine: add it through network manager.
[00:35] <nikhil_> hi. I'm having a little trouble with my synaptics touchpad. It's working ok, two finger scroll is fine etc. But, when I tap to click, the mouse moves too, causing me to miss the target 9/10 times. anyone?
[00:35] <nikhil_> there's a general inaccuracy about the whole experience
[00:35] <nikhil_> that is unfortunately not there on windows
[00:36] <nikhil_> so i infer it must be a matter of a tweak here and there to get it right.
[00:36] <d4rkh4nd> Hello, im trying to bootone of my old linux machines ibelive 11.XX. When i boot i only get a purpal screen after hearing the sound of the login/user select screen.
[00:37] <const_antine> PatrickDickey, does network-manager have a gui?
[00:37] <nikhil_> d4rkh4nd, when you press CTRL + ALT + F1 do you see a login screen?
[00:37] <nikhil_> (text based)
[00:37] <d4rkh4nd> yes, but i dont remember my password lol eather
[00:37] <PatrickDickey> const_antine: Yes. If you right click on the networking icon in your top panel, you'll see "Edit Connections" as an option.
[00:38] <nikhil_> d4rkh4nd, you're having a problem with your graphics
[00:38] <floogy> Hi, I copied my old disk to a new one. what would be the best way to get grub2 on the new disk with the right settings for the new disk?
[00:38] <floogy> I used gparted and I think it changed all UUIDs
[00:38] <d4rkh4nd> I did just put a new/old card in it. i should try the on board video i guess
[00:38] <PatrickDickey> floggy, boot to a live CD and fix it that way. !grub | floggy
[00:38] <PatrickDickey> !grub | floogy
[00:39] <jilebedev> Hi, what is the stdout of a bash script initiated by cron as root? Does it evern matter if I redirect that to /dev/null?
[00:40] <PatrickDickey> floogy: You'll probably have to edit /etc/fstab as sudo in order to change the UUID's then. Otherwise nothing will mount.
[00:40] <floogy> PatrickDickey, do you pfrefere chrooting into the system and install and update-grub?
[00:40] <PatrickDickey> floogy: I normally do it through a Live CD. I'm not a chroot expert at all.
[00:41] <floogy> ok, thank you. I'll have a look into the links you presented
[00:41] <PatrickDickey> floogy: no problem. Hope it helps.
[00:42] <floogy> OT regarding windows xp, that will repair it's ntfs on a first boot, right?
[00:43] <const_antine> PatrickDickey, I changed ipv4 settings of my network connection to Automatic DHCP Only, and filled in DNS Servers with local area addresses
[00:43] <PatrickDickey> floogy: that depends on what it's doing.
[00:43] <PatrickDickey> const_antine: and did that solve the problem? Can you use your custom DNS Server now?
[00:43] <kuwanger_> pepee: Well, it's happened again.  I've sshed into the box.
[00:44] <const_antine> my host is still trying to use the internet dns server, which leads me to believe it is still using the old configuration
[00:44] <kuwanger_> pepee: lsusb doesn't show anything unusual--the keyboard and mouse are still listed.
[00:44] <const_antine> here are the DNS Servers I listed: 192.168.1.2, 192.168.1.1
[00:44] <floogy> I mean after rezizing ntfs partitions with gparted they have to be checked by chkdsk /f twice.
[00:44] <pepee> kuwanger_, read the logs?
[00:45] <const_antine> There is also 71.242.0.12
[00:45] <PatrickDickey> constantine, You'll probably have to restart the networking then.
[00:45] <const_antine> provided by the dhcp
[00:45] <kuwanger_> pepee: dmesg doesn't show anything either--it only notes how the eth0 link went up (I started another machine which has a crossover cable to the eth0 port).
[00:45] <nikhil_> ^^ anyone help regarding touchpad above?
[00:45] <kuwanger_> pepee: Is there anything under /sys/bus/usb/devices/.../ that I should be looking at/noting/recording?
[00:46] <PatrickDickey> const_antine: It should use your custom first, then go to your router next (I'm guessing that 192.168.1.1 is your router), and that will automatically use your ISP's.
[00:46] <pepee> kuwanger_, no idea, I don't know much about it
[00:46] <const_antine> I already did, dig still uses the old a.root-servers.net
[00:46] <scatterp> PatrickDickey,  I have linux-source installed but i am having trouble locating the source for mr97310a.ko ?
[00:47] <pepee> kuwanger_, are you running kvm and vbox at the same time?
[00:47] <const_antine> when asked to do something like "dig moon"
[00:47] <PatrickDickey> scatterp It's under /usr/src then the linux version. then drivers/media/video/gspca
[00:47] <scatterp> PatrickDickey,  i presume i should be looking in /lib/modules/3.2.0-31-generic/kernel/drivers/media/video/gspca
[00:47] <scatterp> aha ok
[00:48] <kuwanger_> pepee: No.  I don't normally run kvm at all and I haven't ran vbox for several boot ups.
[00:48] <PatrickDickey> const_antine: it might be using cached data. Unless you're trying dig something-you've-never-visited
[00:48] <pepee> kuwanger_, still, try disabling one, or both, because I remember having problem with them
[00:49] <pepee> when running in parallel
[00:49] <kuwanger_> pepee: Okay.  How do I disable kvm?
[00:50] <scatterp> PatrickDickey,  I dont see it there ( http://paste.ubuntu.com/1316829/ ) only some headers stuff version is 3.2.0-31-generic
[00:50] <pepee> kuwanger_, if it's a service, I suppose something like service kvm stop; update-rc.d kvm disable
[00:50] <const_antine> you think my router's dns server will auto-redirect the queries to internet server?
[00:51] <Meris> pepee, my desktop does not have wifi, yet it is connected to an access-point that has (through a switch). I can arp my smartphone so I have the MAC address. The tutorial mentions netcat, but that is unavailable on my phone. Any suggestions for an alternative to that?
[00:52] <pepee> Meris, installing the android sdk and getting it to send the logs through the shell somehow
[00:52] <pepee> Meris, you'll need to connect the phone through a cable and to run "adb shell"
[00:52] <pepee> adb from the sdk
[00:53] <PatrickDickey> scatterp: you might need to untar the .tar.bz2 file in there (I'd cp it to your home directory first though). It'll be in there.
[00:53] <scatterp> ok
[00:53] <pepee> kuwanger_, ran lsusb?
[00:53] <Meris> pepee, that does not sound encouraging at all. The only machine I have with enough power to run the adb is (you've guessed it) the same desktop I want to troubleshoot.
[00:53] <kuwanger_> pepee: Yea.  Like I said, it looks normal.
[00:54] <pepee> Meris, it's somewhat complicated to set it up, at least it was for me :/
[00:54] <Meris> pepee, thanks anyway, I really appreciate the advice so far
[00:54] <kuwanger_> pepee: According to the kernel usb power management, /sys/bus/usb/devices/.../power/control being set to "on" should prevent things like the keyboard going to sleep. :/
[00:54] <kuwanger_> pepee: And honestly, that's the only thing I can think of to explain the state of the keyboard..
[00:55] <const_antine> PatrickDickey, assuming there is an RR record "printer-pc	IN	A	192.168.1.2", then "dig @dns-server-ip printer-pc" should result in answer "192.168.1.2", correct?
[00:55] <PatrickDickey> I think so const_antine. I'll have to try it to make sure.
[00:56] <pepee> kuwanger_, well, I don't really know what can you do, I've never had a problem like yours
[00:56] <Linkandzelda> is there any way to "freeze" an application on linux? like i want to make it sleep and not use any CPU while its not in use?
[00:56] <pepee> kuwanger_, ask in ##linux too
[00:56] <kuwanger_> pepee: Okay.
[00:56] <edbian> Linkandzelda, what's the difference between that and stopping  / closing the application?
[00:56] <PatrickDickey> const_antine: it works on mine. But, I don't have an ISP's DNS Server listed either.
[00:57] <Meris> pepee, let me remind you that my android phone is not rooted, so it cannot run anything "fancy" like busybox. I'll probably need a stationary machine that is likely to be on when the freeze occurs, right? Else my ailing desktop won't be able to send the kernel panic or whatever it will send through to the console, right?
[00:57] <Linkandzelda> edbian: since it takes 1-2 mins to open Eclipse, but it runs perfectly fine. I want to freeze it's state to save battery
[00:57] <d4rkh4nd> Hello, whats the line i change in grub edit  to use any video card?
[00:57] <const_antine> PatrickDickey, can you show me the Answers?
[00:58] <const_antine> *answer
[00:58] <Linkandzelda> edbian: guess i could use kill -STOP <pid> ?
[00:58] <pepee> Meris, ah, yeah. well, I just said it was a possibility, I like hackish and complicated things, sorry, hehe
[00:58] <edbian> Linkandzelda, I believe.  If you open eclipse, then minimize it, it will not be consuming any CPU cycles.  It will exist in ram.    Also, there is a package called preload but it does not offer the user fine grained configuration
[00:58] <PatrickDickey> One second, I'll pastebin it.
[00:58] <const_antine> I know rndc loaded the zone with that RR, and DNS dig should work, at least on that same host
[00:59] <const_antine> there's nothing in the log
[00:59] <pepee> kuwanger_, just copy/paste what you asked in this channel, and give them all the info you have
[00:59] <Linkandzelda> edbian: i see, i'll have to put it to the test then, as i plan to never restart this system lol
[00:59] <Meris> pepee, I like hackish things when I have the time to invest in them. I am but a week time from an important exam right now...
[00:59] <PatrickDickey> const_antine: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1316847/
[00:59] <scatterp> PatrickDickey,  that worked thanks
[00:59] <pepee> Meris, yeah, I understand that
[00:59] <edbian> Linkandzelda, good plan
[00:59] <PatrickDickey> no problem scatterp.
[00:59] <const_antine> :(
[01:00] <rictec> i m back ...
[01:00] <kuwanger_> pepee: Aha..  Good news (or bad, depending on your point of view).  I tried sudo lsusb -v, and now lsbusb -v is frozen on the optical mouse.
[01:00] <PatrickDickey> const_antine: why exactly do you want a custom dns server?
[01:00] <physically_fit> i need someone to help me in ubuntu-ops HELP
[01:00] <rictec> is 12.10 a pain to all ati card or just the one found on laptops?
[01:01] <pepee> kuwanger_, well, that could be very useful, I suppose
[01:01] <const_antine> PatrickDickey, i have a usb printer that i would like to share. so i thought of naming all nodes on my network
[01:01] <Guest23102> Guten Abend
[01:02] <kuwanger_> pepee: Well, at least it tells me that I'm not imagning that the device is unresponsive. :)
[01:02] <scirvir> quick question, where do i set the symlink so I can luanch an application from command line?
[01:02] <Guest23102> ich hab hier schwierigkeiten mit fehlerhaften Sektoren
[01:02] <scirvir> I've done it for eclipse in the past after a manual install.
[01:02] <pepee> kuwanger_, did you try disconnecting everything and reconnecting only your keyboard? also, do you have another mouse to test it?
[01:02] <jrib> scirvir: for your user, or system-wide?
[01:02] <const_antine> that way i don't have to remember the ip addresses whenever something needs to get printed
[01:02] <Guest23102> gibt es eine Möglichkeit die zu reparieren?
[01:02] <Meris> pepee, the time between the similar freezes has been two days. Today I can't do anything anymore. I have to sleep. Tomorrow I'll first inspect my case to see if any dustbunnies have accumulated in there that might cause overheating or similar issues.
[01:02] <scirvir> system wide
[01:02] <PatrickDickey> const_antine: You could also try something like OpenDNS. They have a configuration for handling local (in network) requests.
[01:02] <blackshirt> const_antine, you shoulde ensure your printer works locally
[01:02] <jrib> scirvir: use /usr/local/bin/
[01:02] <scirvir> jrib: thanks
[01:03] <kuwanger_> pepee: Well, I don't want to disconnect my wifi...  But, I've done so in the past.  I'll disconnect my mouse.
[01:03] <const_antine> i even tried turning it off and turning it on, blackshirt
[01:03] <PatrickDickey> const_antine: Or, if the IP Address won't change, add it to /etc/hosts so you don't need to use the IP (just the hostname).
[01:03] <nikhil_> hi. I'm having a little trouble with my synaptics touchpad. It's working ok, two finger scroll is fine etc. But, when I tap to click, the mouse moves too, causing me to miss the target 9/10 times. anyone?
[01:03] <nikhil_> there's a general inaccuracy about the whole experience
[01:03] <nikhil_> that is unfortunately not there on windows
[01:03] <nikhil_> so i infer it must be a matter of a tweak here and there to get it right.
[01:03] <nikhil_> anyone?
[01:04] <nikhil_> just point me in the right direction
[01:04] <Guest23102> I got troubles on some sectors...is there any possibility to repair them?
[01:04] <pepee> Meris, ok, good luck :)
[01:05] <kuwanger_> pepee: Okay, the usb mouse is disconnected..and lsbusb is still stuck on /dev/bus/usb/004/002, where the mouse was.
[01:05] <Meris> pepee, still, if my desktop still returns my pings, then the kernel should still be working at least partially. The both the 2nd and the 3rd layer of the IP stack have to be up-and running for that.
[01:05] <PatrickDickey> nikhil, have you looked in Settings > Mouse and Trackpad to see if you can change something there?
[01:05] <David-A> Guest23102: probably not. not repair. with a lot of luck maybe ddrescue or something can find some of the data.
[01:06] <scatterp> how could i override or force the product ID and vendor of a usb device? additional info here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1316851/
[01:06] <kuwanger_> pepee: With mouse and keyboard disconnected, lsusb still lists them.
[01:06] <blackshirt> scatterp, what you mean with override ?
[01:06] <Guest23102> so I just have to write ddrescue into the terminal?
[01:07] <floogy> I want to copy /usr and / of the old disk (I gddrescued that disk to an image file) into one single partition of the new drive. Is there any problem to do so? I want to use rsync to get it back on track when it might fail to read/write a block.
[01:07] <scatterp> blackshirt,  if i do lsusb i get product id and vendor id 0d98:87a0 i want to force that to change to 093a:010f
[01:07] <pepee> Meris, well, try asking in ##linux too, they know more than I do
[01:08] <scatterp> blackshirt take a look at http://paste.ubuntu.com/1316851/ might explain it a bit better
[01:08] <blackshirt> scatterp, there are usbmodeswitch that commonly doing that
[01:08] <Meris> pepee, it feels like a failing HDD. The kernel is still working, because it is loaded into RAM, major services such as SSH can't access the disk, so they can't write any logs. Is this a probable situation?. I will visit ##linux as well, thanks for the hint :-).
[01:08] <const_antine> shit
[01:08] <const_antine> we lost power
[01:08] <David-A> Guest23102: there are two packages named ddrescue or similar in the repositories (software center) install the right one, then use it from a terminal. BUT depending on the kind of problem, you may want to do all the work from a healty disk when rescuing date from a faulty disk.
[01:09] <kuwanger_> Hmm..and now I'm getting hung task messages in dmesg with an interesting backtrace.
[01:09] <pepee> Meris, well, try looking at the temps and S.M.A.R.T. data
[01:09] <const_antine> we're fucked
[01:09] <const_antine> :(
[01:09] <const_antine> bye. thank u for your help, PatrickDickey
[01:10] <Guest23102>  I'm running a live-session...I have a try on installing this packages...
[01:10] <Meris> pepee, well, the SMART data is still in the green and there are no temp warnings in the logs, realtime values as read from the mobo don't show any anomalies.
[01:11] <scatterp> blackshirt that seems to only work on multi state usb devices like a usb modem with a emulated cdrom inside it but i dont believe this device has any multi state functionality
[01:11] <David-A> Guest23102: before bother installing in a live session, plan for on what medium you want to save data
[01:12] <WeThePeople> are their any seo tools in the software center
[01:12] <Guest23102> it's just for my system on sda1 I lost after I had an update
[01:12] <bfortified> Finally setup NFS at home, My wifes account is able to manipulate files she doesn't have permissions for with out using root. Is this because she has an administrator account or because of a weak NFS? setup?
[01:12] <Guest23102> there is no other possibility
[01:13] <David-A> Guest23102: you can open Disk Utility to see what s.m.a.r.t data says about it, how bad it is.
[01:13] <Guest23102> how? It says "very"
[01:13] <ironhalik> Is there any hint on the release date of nvidia 310.14 final release?
[01:14] <blackshirt> scatterp, device id was fixed and vendor spesific
[01:14] <Guest23102> five cashed sectors
[01:14] <Guest23102> crashed
[01:15] <scatterp> blackshirt, yeah so no way to spoof it ?
[01:15] <David-A> Guest23102: are we talking system files that can be re-installed when you have a new disk, or is it invaluable family photos, which should be backed up anyway?
[01:15] <kuwanger_> Hmm...I wonder.
[01:15] <kuwanger_> pepee: Thanks for all the help and listening.  I'm going to try something.
[01:15] <pepee> Meris, run fsck?
[01:15] <Guest23102> it's some work for university
[01:15] <pepee> you are welcome kuwanger_
[01:16] <Guest23102> otherwise I'd not bother anyone
[01:16] <Meris> pepee, I just did, no problems there.
[01:16] <David-A> Guest23102: and no backup? (otherwise you wouldnt ask i guess)
[01:16] <Guest23102> right
[01:16] <Guest23102> I forgot to backup for some days
[01:17] <Guest23102> so if it isn't to hard, I'd try it
[01:17] <blackshirt> scatterp, yeah, exactly i don't know for detail....
[01:17] <Guest23102> the main problem is, I can't mount the sda1
[01:18] <blackshirt> Scatterp, sorry can't help you so much
[01:18] <David-A> Guest23102: there is info on data rescue on ubuntu support sites, e.g.: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery
[01:19] <Guest23102> David-A: just follow the steps?
[01:19] <zatan> Hey how  Can I add read and write permission on directory ?
[01:19] <tarrant> While running ubuntu 12.04.1 server edition I attempt "modprobe ixgbe InterruptThrottleRate=16000,16000" and get an error about no option InterruptThrottleRate. This is despite the documentation (and source) for the 3.6.7 ixgbe saying it supports the option. Any thoughts?
[01:20] <jrib> !permissions | zatan
[01:20] <David-A> Guest23102: and remember, don't use/mount the disk if it is bad and deteroating, let the tools copy data to a new disk as good as they can
[01:20] <David-A> Guest23102: check what steps apply to you
[01:20] <David-A> Guest23102: do you have a good available disk to copy to?
[01:20] <Guest23102> okay...thanks
[01:21] <Guest23102> a USB-Pin
[01:21] <blackshirt> zatan, if you want more control,use acl
[01:21] <zatan> cheers guys
[01:22] <astex> long ago synaptics was going to release their gesture suite for linux.  Did this ever happen?  Does utouch/geiss support synaptics?
[01:22] <astex> erm.  release it to end users
[01:22] <David-A> Guest23102: is the usb-pin big enough? if you use ddrescue it must be at least the size of the partition copying from.
[01:22] <ISOcrates> trying to get my wireless working via apt-get install firmware-b43-installer but it's not finding it. any idea if i have to se up a certain repo? running 12.10
[01:23] <Guest23102> no, it isn't. And I guess, copying over LAN is too hard for people like me
[01:24] <Guest23102> isn't there a possibility to select the file i need?
[01:24] <David-A> Guest23102: you can use foremost or similar to read only certanin filetypes directly from the faulty disk, then usb-pin only need space for the documents plus ghost copies.
[01:24] <Guest23102> okay...I'll try
[01:25] <David-A> Guest23102: but if the disk is bad, i'd recommend a full ddrescue first and foremost on the copy. then you need space for the copy.
[01:25] <blackshirt> zatan, add group read ?
[01:25] <scatterp> blackshirt, think i got it http://www.ha19.no/usb/ going to try it
[01:26] <Guest23102> sorry, but I can't find ddrescue in the list...
[01:26] <David-A> Guest23102: package name is gddrescue
[01:28] <David-A> Guest23102: if you use ddrescue you must have space for the copy, like a new disk. how big is the failing partition? how big is the usp-pin?
[01:28] <blackshirt> scatterp, good luck guys
[01:28] <Guest23102> as I said, my USB-pin is much too small...
[01:28] <Guest23102> so I'd rather relect the file to safe
[01:30] <Guest23102> and...I'm unable to install the gddrescue...I get an error message
[01:30] <Guest23102> gddrescue
[01:31] <Guest23102> 11: Resource temporarily unavailable
[01:32] <Jordan_U> Guest23102: There is a gddrescue package, but not a gddrescue command. What is the exact command you're running?
[01:32] <David-A> Guest23102: it is safer to buy a new disk. you can run "foremost" or "testdisk" to try recover certain filetypes directly from the faulty partition, but it will take an awful lot of time, during which the disk can become worse. and the usb-bin can still be too small if they find a lot of ghost copies of chosen document types.
[01:32] <Guest23102> I see
[01:33] <David-A> Jordan_U: ddrescue command samples at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery
[01:33] <Guest23102> perhaps I'll get one tomorrow
[01:33] <rictec> anyone know any prog to test vga performance?
[01:33] <Jordan_U> David-A: You haven't answered my question. What is the exact command you're running?
[01:34] <mjhszig> any network/internet gurus in the house?
[01:34] <floogy> which mount options do I need to retain uid/gid when copying from the old to the new hdd?
[01:34] <Guest23102> mom
[01:34] <Guest23102> 11: Resource temporarily unavailable
[01:34] <Guest23102> arg
[01:34] <Guest23102> sudo apt-get install gddrescue
[01:36] <David-A> Jordan_U: i'm not running it, not right now. You mean the command name? ddrescue, it says so on that webpage you got
[01:36] <Th3_Gh0st> hello?
[01:36] <Th3_Gh0st> fucking sweet i got this working
[01:37] <bekor> hey all hows the weather? slow ubuntu 12.04 boot any ideas?
[01:37] <floogy> Hm, I think -o defaults suffice
[01:38] <Guest23102> okay...let's finish this. I thank you for your help, David
[01:38] <Guest23102> I'll try tomorrow with a bigger disc
[01:39] <Guest23102> and the tools you told
[01:39] <Guest23102> greets from bavaria
[01:39] <oddalot> OK, I just installed ubuntu after years of not using it, why is it so slow?
[01:39] <David-A> Guest23102: hope it works out. mind to participate in my poll? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2001222 :)
[01:39] <oddalot> I can barely watch youtube, and I thought my computer was reasonably fast.
[01:39] <Guest23102> okay...good night
[01:40] <rictec> oddalot: wellcome to my problem lol
[01:40] <David-A> good night
[01:40] <oddalot> Guess I need to upgrade again.
[01:41] <rictec> well did that....its worst lol
[01:41] <Meris> ok, guys, gals, I need to sleep right now. Thanks for the atmosphere. Have a lovely day or night
[01:42] <Meris> pepee, thanks for all the useful suggestions you gave.
[01:42] <pepee> no problem Meris
[01:43] <rictec> somehow it gets better
[01:43] <Guest23102> David-A I can't participate in this poll...but if it helps: I'd say once or a few times a year.  --> But just the system. Important files are safed more often. Let's say every day...
[01:44] <Guest23102> okay,
[01:44] <Guest23102> servus from bavaria
[01:44] <blackshirt> rictec, what the problems ?
[01:44] <rictec> what else ati and xserver
[01:45] <rictec> with 12.10
[01:45] <rictec> blackshirt: but its way better then when i started
[01:46] <mariusz__> a z polski ktos jest
[01:46] <blackshirt> rictec, sorry,hard to understand your problems
[01:46] <blackshirt> more detail please
[01:46] <rictec> blackshirt: its making 12.10 works with ati mobile x1400
[01:46] <David-A> oddalot: have you checked "system settings">"additional hardware drivers" ?
[01:47] <oddalot> yes
[01:47] <oddalot> I have the drivers installed
[01:47] <oddalot> the protrietary FGLRX graphics driver
[01:47] <oddalot> the problem, I think, might be that i have a very weird ati card
[01:48] <oddalot> it's an AGP , but all the other modesl for hd 4670 are pcie
[01:48] <rictec> blackshirt: fglrx didn't work radeon is tooo slow
[01:48] <oddalot> so i'm thinking the drivers aren't coded right for my card
[01:48] <oddalot> in fact, the ati drivers for windows don't even work, only the powercolor ones that came with the cd work at all on windows
[01:48] <blackshirt> rictec, have you try propietary drivers one?
[01:49] <rictec> blackshirt: i beleave that won't work on 12.10
[01:49] <rictec> blackshirt: and kernel 3.5
[01:50] <blackshirt> ricter, i'm not play a bit with this ati series..and maybe amd/ati have good support for linux drivers
[01:51] <rictec> blackshirt: they drop support for this chip for some time now
[01:51] <oddalot> i tried using gnome without unity too, but it didn't help
[01:51] <blackshirt> rictec, bad news :d
[01:52] <rictec> oddalot: you have drm working?
[01:52] <oddalot> whats that?
[01:52] <rictec> blackshirt: the bad did was to upgrade to 12.10 ...bad move
[01:53] <oddalot> what'd drm?
[01:54] <cfhowlett> oddalot: digital rights management
[01:55] <oddalot> I don't think that's what he meant?
[01:56] <oddalot> why would he ask if I had that working?
[01:57] <bernie> I just fixed my pulseaudio with "rm -r /var/lib/pulse/*"
[01:57] <bernie> a thousand poxes upon lennart poettering!
[01:57] <bernie> took me 3 hours to debug
[01:57] <rictec> oh sorry dmesg | grep drm
[01:57] <pepee_> bernie, report it?
[01:58] <bernie> pepee_: to lennart? or on launchpad?
[01:58] <rictec> i didn't had any problem with ati until i got 12.10
[01:58] <pepee_> launchpad :P
[01:58] <bernie> i had very bad luck with this sort of bug reports in the past. they always get closed for lack of details
[01:59] <pepee_> bernie, or well, lennart
[01:59] <bernie> what can i do... the problem is now gone and i don't know how to reproduce it any more
[01:59] <pepee_> bernie, yeah, I think launchpad is not very useful...
[01:59] <bernie> i should ha ve saved the files
[01:59] <pepee_> bernie, how did you debug it, and what did you find?
[01:59] <alusion_> what other ways are there to screen-record on linux
[02:00] <bernie> pepee_: i ran pulseaudio from a terminal under strace
[02:00] <rictec> oddalot: what ati card do you have?
[02:00] <oddalot> powercolor hd4670 agp
[02:00] <bernie> pepee_: to bisect the problem, first of all i booted into a fedora partition and chrooted into ubuntu to see if the ubuntu clients would play using the fedora server
[02:01] <sammywinchester> Hey
[02:01] <bernie> pepee_: the versions matched, so it was either a config file or a patch missing on one side
[02:01] <pepee_> alusion_, xvidcap is good
[02:01] <bjrohan> I have had a nightmare on getting ffmpeg to work with the codecs I need (everything says I need libx264) can someone advise on installing a static ffmpeg?  It was recommended in ffmpeg channel
[02:01] <pepee_> bernie, copy paste all that, and tell them in #pulseaudio?
[02:02] <pepee_> bjrohan, install libx264?
[02:02] <bjrohan> How?
[02:02] <autarch> I recently upgrade to 12.10 - now when I click on a torrent file, it opens in nautilus rather than in the torrent client
[02:02] <bjrohan> I would love the help
[02:02] <autarch> but if I double click in nautilus it opens the torrent client
[02:02] <pepee_> bjorn_248, apt-cache search libx264
[02:03] <bjorn_248> ?
[02:03] <pepee_> bjrohan, apt-cache search libx264
[02:03] <pepee_> sorry bjorn_248 , tab fail
[02:03] <bjorn_248> lol
[02:03] <bjorn_248> np
[02:03] <wilee-nilee> autarch, Change the open with in properties on the torrent
[02:03] <bjrohan> it says I have libx264-123 and -123 dev installed, still a no go
[02:03] <autarch> I should clarify that this only happens with chrome - if I use firefox it does the right thing
[02:03] <autarch> wilee-nilee: yeah, already tried that
[02:04] <bjrohan> pepee_: it says I have libx264-123 and -123 dev installed, still a no go
[02:04] <alusion_> pepee_, are there any that won't mess up during compiz effects?
[02:04] <autarch> the properties _are_ set correctly which is why I can double click the .torrent file in nautilus and it open the torrent app
[02:04] <wilee-nilee> autarch, Wil the torrent client open them?
[02:04] <pepee_> bjrohan, ah. hmm, tried googling the error message
[02:04] <bernie> pepee_: good idea, i'm on #pulseaudio
[02:04] <autarch> wilee-nilee: yeah, that part works fine
[02:04] <wilee-nilee> strange
[02:04] <pepee_> alusion_, no idea, sorry
[02:04] <autarch> I just can't figure out why when I click on the file in chrome it opens nautilus
[02:05] <autarch> afaict, chrome has no config for this, it just lets the desktop handle it
[02:05] <autarch> I note that if I do "xdg-open http://...torrent" it opens nautilus too
[02:05] <caaakeeey> hey all, cant get 3d acceleration going for vbox, so im looking for a 2d window manager and how to install it - thanks
[02:05] <David-A> bjrohan: have you installed *ubuntu-restricted-extras? or the medibuntu repos?
[02:06] <Edve> hi people
[02:06] <bjrohan> David-A the extras and addons
[02:06] <cfhowlett> Edve: greetings
[02:06] <Edve> Anyone have good feedbacks about Ubuntu 12.10 ?
[02:07] <autarch> Edve: everything's fine for me except having to fiddle with pulseaudio yet again
[02:07] <autarch> and the problem I'm having with some file associations
[02:07] <bjrohan> pepee_:  and David-A here is what I want to do. Do a screencapture with audio, then imprt that into a GUI like Snapshot to edit with title shots, and then export. I have installed WinFF and when I try anthing it says no ffmpeg or avcon. I have ffmpeg installed as I tried to do a recording and was abe to get just .avi no sound, when I tired adding sound I get this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1316880/
[02:09] <bjrohan> pepee_:  and/or David-A I tired using RecordDeskTop, which the file played okay in VLC, but when put in OPenShot, or trying to convert it goes haywire
[02:09] <cfhowlett> bjrohan: might also want to pose this query in #ubuntustudio
[02:10] <caaakeeey> meh, i installed kubuntu - but what's everyones favourite window manager? (still 2d only)
[02:10] <AndIrc> gnome
[02:11] <AndIrc> compiz
[02:11] <pepee_> bjrohan, ahh, you are using the "old" ffmpeg
[02:11] <pepee_> bjrohan, that could be the problem, I'm not sure anyway
[02:11] <bjrohan> pepee_:  How do I get the new one? This is what is in the repo
[02:11] <David-A> bjrohan: i think it is the x11grab that fails, not the x264
[02:11] <simplew> its raining here...
[02:12] <David-A> here too
[02:12] <lahwran> why doesn't the ubuntu software center allow me to see the output of apt-get?
[02:12] <lahwran> or dpkg
[02:12] <FireStorms> Hey anyone know if this Blu-ray writer would work on Ubutnu 10.04 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lite-On-IHBS312-31-LiteOn-IHBS312-12X-Blu-Ray-Disk-Writer-with-SATA-Interf-/350623282334?pt=UK_Computing_Other_Computing_Networking&hash=item51a2c6b49e
[02:12] <simplew> David-A: where are you
[02:12] <pepee_> bjrohan, try using avconv from libav-tools
[02:12] <simplew> lahwran: i recoomend synaptic usage
[02:12] <pepee_> bjrohan, it shares some syntax, but it's different
[02:12] <kujablak> hi, I'm having trouble installing pep8, I've tried using the executable file that they give but nothing happens when I call it, I have access to the sources is it possible to build the software easily or should I find another to install it ?
[02:13] <bjrohan> pepee_: when I convert with VLC, it is scratchy audio and no video convert the recordmydesktop ogv to mpeg4
[02:13] <David-A> simplew: right-click David-A > Country: Sweden
[02:13] <bjrohan> pepee_: How do I use the avconc tools?
[02:13] <lahwran> simplew: I use the commandline when I can, but occasionally my web browser opens the ubuntu software center and I can't avoid it
[02:13] <simplew> David-A: shouldnt be there snowing?
[02:13] <lahwran> kujablak: pip install pep8, don't use the ubuntu package
[02:13] <simplew> lahwran: really? that never happened here
[02:13] <lahwran> kujablak: also, do it in a virtualenv if you can
[02:13] <David-A> simplew: later...
[02:14] <cfhowlett> bjorn_248: there is a "new" ffmpeg available
[02:14] <simplew> lahwran: but i think you can avoid that by removing those unity firefox extras
[02:14] <simplew> David-A: later?
[02:14] <autarch> I tried everything mentioned here - https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Default_Applications
[02:14] <bjorn_248> people keep highlighting me but I'm not talking to anyone :<
[02:14] <pepee_> bjrohan, I don't know much about it... I used it only once, and for something quick & easy
[02:14] <autarch> there's no setting for torrent files in gconf or dconf, AFAICT
[02:14] <kujablak> lahwran, my teacher told us that a known issue was with 64-bits platforms and working fine on 32bit, are you saying that I should use pol and use the windows package ?
[02:15] <bjrohan> okay, thanks pepee_
[02:15] <pepee> np bjrohan
[02:15] <simplew> kujablak: windows package?!?
[02:15] <David-A> simplew: yes please
[02:15] <pepee> bjrohan, I suppose there is a #avconv channel or something
[02:15] <kujablak> simplew, sorry, windows .exe
[02:15] <simplew> David-A: im not follwoing you
[02:16] <simplew> kujablak: .exe does not work in linux
[02:16] <kujablak> simplew, that's why I'd use pol and wine
[02:16] <David-A> simplew: yes, later please
[02:16] <Dragonster82> Hey does anyone know why is it that when I record my screen with Kazam Screencaster, my computer suddenly becomes laggy?
[02:16] <lahwran> kujablak: absolutely not! open a commandline and type 'pip install pep8'
[02:16] <simplew> kujablak: unless you use embedded solution swhich are damn slow
[02:16] <simplew> lahwran: whats that?
[02:17] <lahwran> the python package manager
[02:17] <simplew> Dragonster82: no
[02:17] <simplew> lahwran: yes, sorry
[02:17] <lahwran> you don't want to use apt or debian packages to install python stuff
[02:17] <kujablak> lahwran, yes, but I can't install pip
[02:18] <kujablak> lahwran, I get Permission denied
[02:18] <lahwran> sudo apt-get install pip
[02:18] <lahwran> or it might be python-pip, not sure
[02:18] <simplew> kujablak: why not???
[02:18] <kujablak> lahwran, it's python-pip and permission is denied
[02:18] <simplew> lahwran: sudo apt-get install python-pip
[02:18] <lahwran> so do it with sudo
[02:18] <kujablak> simplew, I have no idea
[02:18] <kujablak> lahwran, I did it with sudo
[02:19] <Dragonster82> But man, I really need to record my desktop.
[02:19] <lahwran> then you can't install it, stop trying
[02:19] <Dragonster82> It just won't do with all the lag.
[02:19] <simplew> kujablak: what ubuntu are you using?
[02:19] <lahwran> kujablak: if you get permission denied with sudo, it means someone else owns root :p
[02:19] <kujablak> simplew, I'm on maverick (yes I know)
[02:19] <kujablak> lahwran, how is that even possible ?
[02:20] <simplew> i just did isntalled pip
[02:20] <simplew> kujablak: why still use such an old release?
[02:20] <yuio> !ot
[02:20] <David-A> Dragonster82: my experience is full screen recording takes its toll on performance
[02:20] <kujablak> simplew, I'm gonna switch but I need time and I don't have it ...
[02:21] <lahwran> kujablak: do you own this computer?
[02:21] <simplew> kujablak: camon you dont need so much time
[02:21] <kujablak> simplew, also, I'm having major problems with recent releases when using them via liveUSB
[02:21] <Dragonster82> David-A: I never had any problems with recording my screen while using Windows.
[02:21] <autarch> aha, I installed xfce4 and it's using exo-open under the hood
[02:21] <kujablak> simplew, I at least need to do a backup
[02:21] <simplew> kujablak: you have a very simple solution-> dd
[02:21] <Dragonster82> David-A: I switched to Ubuntu because my windows was infected with a deadly virus and I didn't want to net out $200 bucks just to reformat.
[02:22] <kujablak> simplew, I don't have a disk to welcome the datas
[02:22] <insomniac_lemon> I tried upgrading from Natty to Precise because everyone on IRC told me "you can't stay on it forever". So I decided to try and update. I did it and it was screwed up, most of the icons were gone, the top bar didn't work, and most applications wouldn't start. So, I did a fresh install. Now I don't have any sound, and I decided to do a graphics driver update, which screwed up my screen, as 1920x1080 doesn't fit the screen, whi
[02:22] <simplew> Dragonster82: why you dont do it yourself?
[02:22] <Dragonster82> simplew: Do what myself?
[02:22] <autarch> why it would choose that when I'm in gnome I have no idea
[02:22] <simplew> kujablak: usb sticks are chip
[02:22] <simplew> Dragonster82: what you just said, format
[02:23] <kujablak> simplew, maybe for you ...
[02:23] <bernie> has anyone experienced unity crashing as soon as one hovers the dash?
[02:23] <simplew> kujablak: camon, you can by a usb stick 8GB for 10€
[02:23] <David-A> Dragonster82: what you record with? with recordmydesktop one can separate the recording phase and the encoding phase, but it will need lots of disk space then
[02:23] <simplew> kujablak: still you can go for a dvd
[02:24] <insomniac_lemon> So, in my problems, no sound under any configuration, resolution not working right, alt+right click will not bring up the menu, and empathy IRC client will not connect properly.
[02:24] <Dragonster82> simplew: To reformat I will need the Windows disc, but my laptop doesn't come with it. Besides, I asked for a recovery disc and they told me I had to pay.
[02:24] <kujablak> I don't want to switch right now
[02:24] <Dragonster82> David-A: recordmydesktop's playback is too fast when I enable Encode On The Fly. But if I were to disable it, it would be really laggy.
[02:24] <simplew> Dragonster82: so why dont you get an windows copy, there so much torrents from original win 7 and such
[02:25] <simplew> kujablak: thats another story...
[02:25] <cfhowlett> simplew: legal download for windows 7 is at digitalriver.com
[02:25] <kujablak> maybe I wasn't clear before, but it's not a "root" problem that I'm having
[02:25] <kujablak> it's the server that denies me acces, if I understand properly
[02:25] <Dragonster82> simplew: I've already tried that, but the thing is that: If I were to install windows 7 by torrenting, it would give me the results of a desktop one, not allowing me to connect to wireless network and such.
[02:26] <simplew> Dragonster82: why not???
[02:26] <somsip> Dragonster82: there are a few videos on You Tube that explain the settings to use that solve the problems with recordmydesktop. Can't remember it off the top of my head though
[02:26] <OerHeks> bug 1
[02:26] <bazhang> simplew, never suggest piracy here
[02:26] <kujablak> lahwran, /pub/mirror/ubuntu/pool/universe/p/python-pip/python-pip_0.7.2-1_all.deb: Permission denied <- that's not a "root" problem
[02:27] <rictec_> i cant find a solution to my driver problem
[02:27] <Dragonster82> @somsip: I've already checked those videos, the problem is not with my screen resolution etc.
[02:27] <Danon> War-Games
[02:28] <somsip> Dragonster82: ok - they solved the same problem for me. Took me a couple of hours of fiddling though. And trying other screen capture software that I couldn't get working either...
[02:28] <simplew> cfhowlett: in digitalriver.com appears to be only for win 8....
[02:28] <pepee> rictec_, what problem?
[02:28] <rictec_> pepee: ati x1400 driver too slow
[02:29] <Dragonster82> @somsip: I think it must be my GPU, Ubuntu 12.10 doesn't support Nvidia Optimus, so I guess that sucks.
[02:29] <cfhowlett> simplew: ah.  then they have removed the previous version.  Sorry for the bad intel.
[02:29] <somsip> Dragonster82: ah - ok. I'm on 12.04 with nvidia, but not optimus, so maybe a different kettle of fish
[02:29] <simplew> Dragonster82: im running ubuntu 12.10 with nvidia optimus (from bumblebee)
[02:30] <xyzone> Dragonster82, you could try installing bumblebee to use optimus
[02:30] <Dragonster82> simplew: You know, I don't really feel like going to the terminal and typing optirun blablabla. Its really tiring you know.
[02:30] <pepee> rictec_, ubuntu 12.10?
[02:30] <rictec_> pepee: yep my mistake
[02:30] <simplew> Dragonster82: you can add the bumblebee repo available from launchpad and install it, and you another GUI to allow you to run apps from optirun
[02:31] <pepee> rictec_, using fglrx/catalyst?
[02:31] <insomniac_lemon> Any help? My most annoying problem is that the resolution that usually fits on my screen anymore, and that I can't alt+right click anymore, because once I minimize windows, they are gone forever.
[02:31] <xyzone> Dragonster82, you can make links that include optirun
[02:31] <rictec_> pepee: no radeon i could get those two to compile and work
[02:31] <insomniac_lemon> Because I didn't add a window list on my panel
[02:32] <simplew> Dragonster82: still i dont use to use optirun, im simply satisfied to have bumblebee runing that puts only the notebook temperature in good levels
[02:33] <pepee> rictec_, in that case, I'd ask in #ati or ##ati , not sure which one is it
[02:33] <rictec_> pepee: i think ati or amd drop support to that chip ages ago
[02:34] <pepee> rictec_, yeah, I didn't know that
[02:34] <Dragonster82> @simplew: I've done sudo apt-get install bumblebee , what do I do now>
[02:34] <lahwran> heh, speaking of amd, I'm hitting a lockup bug which is apparently known, but the fix was not included in 12.04.1 unfortunately from what I can tell
[02:34] <pepee> rictec_, latest kernels should come with better drivers, at least for those cards, I suppose
[02:34] <kujablak> simplew, by the way, one of the reasons why I don't upgrade is because the more I go into recent releases, the slower my laptop gets and less and less accessories are working
[02:34] <pepee> rictec_, also, are you sure the driver is loaded?
[02:34] <lahwran> I hope it's been pushed out via the updates channels by now
[02:34] <simplew> Dragonster82: https://launchpad.net/~bumblebee/+archive/stable
[02:35] <pepee> lahwran, tried catalyst 12.11 beta?
[02:35] <rictec_> pepee: yes driver loads but something is still broken cos i allways get a low resolution option on boot
[02:35] <lahwran> pepee: I have not, though I might soon
[02:35] <simplew> Dragonster82: first you need to add the repo, but go to that link and read
[02:36] <lahwran> pepee: I'm currently working from a live usb which makes it hard to install kernel stuff
[02:36] <Dragonster82> simplew: Ubuntu 12.10 has issues with Nvidia
[02:36] <Dragonster82> simplew: The desktop will not show if I were to install it.
[02:36] <lahwran> how do I shut off compiz in unity?
[02:36] <pepee> lahwran, ah, yeah, that's kinda impossible heh
[02:37] <pepee> at least, I wouldn't know how to do it
[02:37] <wilee-nilee> lahwran, unity is a plugin in compiz
[02:37] <lahwran> I just need to get this installed but I don't want it blowing up before I do
[02:37] <lahwran> wilee-nilee: .... what
[02:37] <simplew> Dragonster82: what???
[02:37] <lahwran> wilee-nilee: what kind of lunatic design is that? anyway, how can I shut off pretty graphics in unity?
[02:37] <Dragonster82> simplew: Simply putting it, there's going to be a bug if I install Nvidia n ow.
[02:37] <simplew> Dragonster82: please read https://github.com/Bumblebee-Project/Bumblebee/wiki
[02:38] <simplew> Dragonster82: im running 12.10 so that you know
[02:38] <wilee-nilee> lahwran, not sure really.
[02:38] <lahwran> :<
[02:38] <wilee-nilee> lahwran, You have a persistince setup?
[02:38] <simplew> Dragonster82: i have no clue from where did you get that, but i assure you i have no issues
[02:39] <lahwran> wilee-nilee: on the usb drive? yeah
[02:39] <lahwran> I want to get ubuntu installed using LVM
[02:40] <wilee-nilee> lahwran, what you do on the usb is not transfered to a install
[02:40] <lahwran> I understand that
[02:40] <insomniac_lemon> If I don't get any help, I'm going to need to roll back to 11.04
[02:41] <wilee-nilee> insomniac_lemon, I thinl 11.04 just went eol
[02:41] <physically_fit> ha
[02:42] <insomniac_lemon> wilee-nilee, yes, I know, but I'm having major issues with 12.04
[02:42] <pepee> insomniac_lemon, try installing some other desktop environment
[02:42] <physically_fit> 12.04 rules
[02:43] <kujablak_> well, now I'm not worried about pep8 anymore, now it seems that I'm unable to install anything at all
[02:43] <insomniac_lemon> I don't think it's the environment, I'm using Gnome fallback, but the resolution shouldn't be affected by that
[02:43] <pepee> kde, xfce, lxde, gnome2, ...
[02:43] <pepee> insomniac_lemon, what graphics card?
[02:43] <bazhang> physically_fit, stay on topic please
[02:43] <insomniac_lemon> nVidia GTS 450
[02:43] <pepee> that could be a graphics driver problem
[02:44] <pranav> How to see my tomboy synchronized notes online ?
[02:44] <xangua> pranav: that feature has long been removed from ubuntu one
[02:44] <physically_fit> bazhang, why no logs on offtopic?
[02:45] <pranav> xangua: so, what does they do when they synchronize ?
[02:45] <pepee> insomniac_lemon, alt+tab should show the minimized windows
[02:45] <RichardRaseley> Running Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. After creating a bridged interface so that I can use it with my QEMU VMs, I cannot manage the network connection via the GUI "Wired Network Device not Managed" notice. Any advice on how to correct this?
[02:45] <pepee> hmm gotta go, brb
[02:46] <pranav> xangua: you sort of saved me. I was using it to store very imp. notes :| Now, I make sure to backup it some place other than tomboy notes
[02:46] <insomniac_lemon> pepee, it doesn't seem to, but also alt+right click has stopped working. So it might not know I'm pressing alt
[02:46] <pranav> is there some sort of thing that syncs notes like tomboy yet we can read it online if our sys. wipes :?
[02:47] <pepee> insomniac_lemon, try using xrandr to change/view the resolution
[02:47] <lahwran> what other things were broken in ubuntu 12.10 besides the search box?
[02:47] <insomniac_lemon> pranav, you could try typing notes in a text file that is synced over Ubuntu One instead
[02:47] <simplew> i see that bumblebee-ui isnt packaged in launchpad which is an app that provides a menu to start all apps with optirun, i have mailed the main maintainer asking why isnt packaged, meanwhile you can edit the menu ad prefix the apps yo use with optirun untill bumblebee-ui isnt packaged
[02:48] <trap24> insomniac_lemon: i just typed then in gmail & sent it to myself :P
[02:49] <insomniac_lemon> trap24, you don't even need to send, just save them as a draft
[02:49] <trap24> insomniac_lemon: hahahaha.. yup!
[02:50] <insomniac_lemon> pepee, how do I change the resolution using xrandr?
[02:51] <insomniac_lemon> pepee, although I don't think it will help, as it is a driver issue. It is at the proper resolution and should fit the screen, but doesn't
[02:53] <simplew> everytime o run dollphin as root it doesnt not run kwrite if i double click in a text file, any hint why?
[02:55] <lahwran> blah
[02:55] <lahwran> guess I'll have to get the alternate installer and use that
[02:55] <bazhang> !alternate | lahwran
[02:56] <WeThePeople> how do i run a install.sh from the terminal
[02:56] <lahwran> it has not, I'm downloading it right now
[02:56] <lahwran> http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-12.04.1-alternate-amd64.iso
[02:56] <bazhang> lahwran, for 12.10 it has
[02:56] <somsip> WeThePeople: ./install.sh, but make sure it is chmod +x first
[02:56] <lahwran> non-lts releases don't exist
[02:57] <lahwran> particularly when they have spyware installed by default
[02:57] <WeThePeople> somsip, thanks
[02:57] <bazhang> simplew, there is no reason to run dolphin as root; what are you trying to do. please explain clearly
[02:57] <bjrohan>  I installed a static ffmpeg build. I am trying to do a desktop record, and I get an error message when I paste a command from a wiki page saying how to do it without audio, here is my command and output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1317005/
[02:57] <bjrohan> I installed a static ffmpeg because what I had for whatever reason was failing miserably
[02:57] <bazhang> lahwran, thats nonsense , there is no spyware
[02:57] <lahwran> bazhang: the amazon search thingy is as spyware as spyware gets
[02:58] <lahwran> recording personal stuff I type into a private search box for advertising networks to use
[02:58] <bazhang> lahwran, then remove it. stop repeating that here
[02:58] <bazhang> !adlens | lahwran
[02:58] <w1ck3dpl46u3> #opmexico
[03:02] <cyrano_> I'm trying to setup the ubuntu font in bold in appearance yet I save it, it is set as ubuntu medium any sugestions. I am using 12.10 with MATE 1.4.0
[03:02] <insomniac_lemon> I guess I have to reinstall natty again then :(
[03:03] <cfhowlett> insomniac_lemon: natty is end of life
[03:03] <xangua> cyrano_: mate is not supported here
[03:04] <hungre> help please! how can i disable home from desktop on lubuntu?
[03:05] <ethhunt> hungre google my frienf.
[03:06] <ethhunt> friend *
[03:06] <ethhunt> 10.0.0.5
[03:06] <FloodBot1> ethhunt: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:06] <ethhunt> http://www.howtogeek.com/116179/how-to-disable-home-folder-encryption-after-installing-ubuntu/
[03:07] <lahwran> ethhunt: be nice
[03:07] <lahwran> ethhunt: support channels are about supporting people :)
[03:07] <jvalentin> virtualhost help please: I setup a file for my local site in /etc/apache2/sites-available/, added a ServerName, DocumentRoot and Directory info, added the site to the hosts file and it loads properly, but when I click and page under that site, I get a 404 error
[03:08] <simplew> bazhang: well you may have not, but i prefer
[03:09] <ethhunt> i did, i made it easier for him. I searched for him and provided the link.
[03:09] <hungre> ethhunt: after i done install lubuntu the desktop was clean, but my friend play with my pc and i find that home folder on the my desktop
[03:09] <ethhunt> thats support.
[03:09] <ethhunt> lol.
[03:09] <jvalentin> this issue I have is with a drupal site, but I don't know if that should matter
[03:09] <simplew> bazhang: you may want to comment https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=309233
[03:10] <alexPH> hi
[03:10] <Chamunks> I installed xbmc onto a 12.10 instance and now that its set to boot directly into XBMC instead of ubiquity
[03:10] <Chamunks> it just goes straight to black screen
[03:11] <ethhunt> hungre try this instead see if this helps "http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&ved=0CD0QFjAD&url=http%3A%2F%2Flinux.bigresource.com%2FUbuntu-remove-home-folder-from-desktop--2p5FpshSE.html&ei=FEWPUNzgIKXy2QXohIGICA&usg=AFQjCNF9jumX09RWg9637ej0YQtANe-t5Q"
[03:11] <hungre> xangua:  please help me friend, u help me before :)
[03:11] <bjrohan> Can someone give me pointers/help on recording my desktop with audio using ffmpeg commandline into mpeg-4? Thanks.
[03:12] <jvalentin> can anyone assist with my virtualhost (or rewrite maybe) issue, please?
[03:12] <xangua> !behelpful | ethhunt
[03:12] <xangua> hungre: i've never tried lxde, tried asking in #lubuntu ¿
[03:12] <Chamunks> Anyone know how to revert my gdm back to the default ubuntu gdm?
[03:12] <Chamunks> its booting into a black screen and im toast.
[03:13] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset|Chamunks:
[03:13] <ethhunt> smh, these are links i have saved from my book marks how is that a joke? im not joking. its easier then typing all of the required information. just read the link.
[03:14] <ethhunt> to sensitive fake ass moderator and fake ass want to be smart people trip me out.
[03:14] <Chamunks> cfhowlett, thanks alot.
[03:14] <jvalentin> am I in the wrong room for ubuntu virtualhost setup help for?
[03:14] <hungre> xangua:  i install lxde coz i have a problem with ubuntu when i try to login and after i put the password and then login the screen monitor switch off then swith on quickly can u help me plz
[03:15] <wilee-nilee> hungre, Try the dconf option on this page. http://askubuntu.com/questions/145731/problems-with-icons-in-lubuntu
[03:15] <cfhowlett> Chamunks: np
[03:15] <Main> Hey guys, I have a question regarding some driver issues
[03:15] <gisli> anyone else having trouble connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com ?
[03:15] <Main> I have a Inspiron B120 Laptop that i have Ubuntu( Yes i understand its a horrible Laptop) But having issues, with the wifi drivers.
[03:15] <lado> hi
[03:16] <hungre> wilee-nilee:  i want to disable home from desktop not to add
[03:18] <wilee-nilee> hungre, L I would install dconf and see if the home is ticked on, but you may not.
[03:19] <hungre> wilee-nilee:  ok tell me how to install it plz?
[03:19] <StormTwo> thank you guys now i can upgrade my ubuntu!
[03:19] <wilee-nilee> hungre, Its in this link. http://askubuntu.com/questions/145731/problems-with-icons-in-lubuntu
[03:21] <StormTwo> hungre, what is your problem?
[03:21] <lyonpack> anyone have any idea with the B120 drivers?
[03:22] <aghosh> Hi , is there any solution available for the auto logout problem ? I am using 12.04
[03:22] <StormTwo> welcome lyonpack
[03:22] <lyonpack> thank you.
[03:23] <StormTwo> your welcome
[03:23] <lyonpack> storm maybe you will be able to help me with my problem
[03:23] <StormTwo> what problem lyon?
[03:23] <StormTwo> glad if i can help lyon
[03:24] <lyonpack> i have the Inspiron B120
[03:24] <lyonpack> I am in current need of the Wlan Drivers
[03:24] <StormTwo> yes,it is dell right?
[03:25] <lyonpack> Broadcom chipset
[03:25] <lyonpack> yes it is
[03:25] <cfhowlett> !broadcom
[03:25] <hungre> StormTwo:  i have installed lxde, and then desktop was empty nothing appears there, my friend play now on my desktop and the home folder completely appears on the desktop,how cn i disable all plz
[03:25] <StormTwo> ubottu thanks for helping
[03:26] <StormTwo> hungre why do you want to disable it all?
[03:27] <hungre> StormTwo:  if i download anything to home folder it appears on the desktop screen
[03:27] <StormTwo> hungre ubottu lyonpack talk to you later ok?
[03:27] <lyonpack> one more question. where can i locate the drivers needed for B120
[03:28] <hungre> StormTwo:  lol i have hours waiting
[03:29] <CrypticByte> I'm using Kopete and I can't seem to get facebook to connect but it connects fine with Pidgin anyone else experiencing this?
[03:31] <Captain_Claw> Ubuntu with gnome-shell #winning
[03:37] <aghosh> ubuntu 12.04 - auto logout problem
[03:38] <aghosh> any help please ?
[03:39] <blackshirt> aghosh, even on text/cli mode?
[03:39] <pepee> aghosh, check /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old
[03:42] <jvalentin> oh well, guess I'll have to find answers on setting up a web server and virtual host elsewhere...g'nite
[03:43] <pepee> jvalentin, try ##linux or #apache
[03:43] <aghosh> yes
[03:43] <cowsquad> can anyone tell me how to install gnome 3.61. on ubuntu 1210
[03:43] <aghosh> blackskirt : not on text/cli mode
[03:44] <aghosh> only on graphical user mode
[03:44] <aeon-ltd> cowsquad: i'm not up to date on gnome ver, but is that new or old?
[03:45] <cowsquad> aeon-ltd yes gnome 3.6.1 it is
[03:45] <aeon-ltd> new or old?
[03:45] <cowsquad> that is the latest
[03:46] <aeon-ltd> cowsquad: then you'll need to find a ppa, if not your only option will probably compiling
[03:46] <cowsquad> god damm it. I dont even know where to find a ppa
[03:47] <trism> cowsquad: we already have some of 3.6.1,w hat are you looking for?
[03:49] <cowsquad> trism, the entire gnome desktop ;) lockscreen and desktop
[03:50] <trism> cowsquad: you need to use gdm to get a working lockscreen with gnome-shell I think (though it might have gnome-screensaver fallback now, I forget)
[03:51] <cowsquad> so, i rather not use gnome then
[03:53] <whomp> when i boot up my computer, it goes straight to windows, instead of allowing me to  choose between windows and ubuntu. how can i fix this?
[03:54] <cfhowlett> !grub|whomp:
[03:54] <cfhowlett> whomp: reinstall grub
[03:54] <FireStorms> Hey I'm looking for a DvD duplication solution oppose to my laptop's slow DvD burner. I'm thinking about buying this burner but how would I find out if it works on Ubuntu 10.04, seller doesn't seem to know http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/22x-External-High-Speed-USB-2-0-DVD-Writer-Burner-NEW-/261109201870?pt=UK_Computing_Drives_Storage_CD_DVD_Drives_ET&hash=item3ccb523bce
[03:59] <Cjdns--user> hello. does anyone know  how to install windows 8 to a hdd with an uefi-ubuntu-partition?
[04:00] <fird0s> hi all
[04:00] <theBIGelectron> Hi all got an issue with trying to getting a Leostick to show up in the Arduino IDE on Ubuntu 12.10, the serial port option under tools is grayed out
[04:03] <grendal_prime> ok sooo there are a lot of things i really like in 12.10 (espicially the enhancements in kvm)  but work requires we use the lts.
[04:03] <grendal_prime> my question is has anyone upgraded from an X.10 to the next lts?
[04:05] <somsip> theBIGelectron: try running the IDE as root. If it's not greyed out when you do that, you need to add your user to the group that allows serial port access
[04:05] <grendal_prime> also is there a keycombination to the desktop switcher?
[04:05] <grendal_prime> sory workspace switcher
[04:05] <trism> grendal_prime: ctrl+alt+arrows
[04:06] <trism> grendal_prime: ctrl+alt+shift+arrows if you want to move a window
[04:06] <L3top> grendal_prime: ctrl + F2 if you want to move to desktop 2
[04:07] <L3top> theBIGelectron: This is really not the channel for that question... but if you find a solution, I personally would like an update.
[04:07] <grendal_prime> ya see i was thinking more like..something i can press to get that spaces to view..like you get when you clik on the unity bar
[04:08] <L3top> grendal_prime: perhaps this will help http://askubuntu.com/questions/28086/what-are-unitys-keyboard-and-mouse-shortcuts    I use kde.
[04:09] <grendal_prime> trism,  so if you just click on the workspace switcher on the unity bar..ahh ok thanks
[04:09] <trism> grendal_prime: super+s
[04:09] <grendal_prime> thats it thanks
[04:09] <trism> had to look it up, I use the shortcuts to avoid that thing
[04:10] <grendal_prime> ya super + w shows you your apps on that desktop
[04:10] <grendal_prime> much like gnome 3 does all the time.
[04:10] <grendal_prime> i wish gnome3 had a 2d version
[04:11] <grendal_prime> i really like that interface..it is really easy to figure out.
[04:11] <L3top> !ot | grendal_prime
[04:11] <grendal_prime> its like everything is there..but just peeking around the corner..and you point to it and then it shows you the rest of itself
[04:11] <cowsquad> how to set up lightdm as my default login screen?
[04:12] <square> is there a channel for ubuntu on the nexus 7?
[04:12] <trism> cowsquad: if lightdm is installed: sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm;
[04:12] <L3top> cowsquad: I don't know the official way, but I can tell you how to do it
[04:12] <L3top> thanks trism...
[04:13]  * L3top just echoes over /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[04:13] <cowsquad> god dam it trism, how do you know so much :)
[04:13] <trism> that's really all the command does, just gives you a menu to choose
[04:13] <cowsquad> trism, yeap Ive already chosen lightdm
[04:14] <cowsquad> trism, I didnt like gnome shell :-P
[04:20] <skunk> anyone upgrade to 12.10??
[04:21] <Gerowen> Question for the Ubuntu lords here.  I haven't used Ubuntu at all in a year or two because of poor performance on my old laptop after Unity.  I want to install it on a second laptop I've gotten, but after downloading the 32 bit ISO image I see that it is just barely over the 700 MB capacity of the CDs I have.  I don't have any DVDs and having recently moved can't find any of my thumb drives.  What would be the easiest way to get
[04:21] <Gerowen>  12.10 installed?
[04:21] <h00k> skunk: can you ask a more specific question?
[04:21] <limpc> i upgraded to 12.10
[04:21] <limpc> then had HD problems so i installed 12.10 clean. but now i cant get AMD's proprietary ATI drivers to work
[04:21] <limpc> tried everything.  i can only use the "opensource" version which sucks
[04:22] <skunk> was that intel video driver bug fixed?? I can send the slashdot article if you like
[04:22] <limpc> anyone else have problems with ati drivers in 12.10?  my card is a Radeon HD 6700
[04:23] <skunk> isn't the Radeon HD 6700 on the iMac?? Do you have an imac?
[04:23] <limpc> no. custom pc
[04:23] <h00k> skunk: which bug are you referring to?
[04:23] <skunk> nook.. ill show you
[04:24] <skunk> nook, http://linux.slashdot.org/story/12/09/20/1245240/stubborn-intel-graphics-bug-haunts-ubuntu-1204
[04:24] <skunk> h00k.. sorry lol
[04:25] <skunk> im still using 10.04
[04:25] <skunk> work fine
[04:25] <h00k> skunk: according to that bug report, it looks like it was fixed in all versions it was reported in, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/966744
[04:27] <skunk> YEAH BABY YEAH!
[04:27] <skunk> thanks h00k i wasn't expecting to get an answer! but you got it :)
[04:28] <h00k> skunk: and (as you see) it looks like it's fixed in 12.10 as well :)
[04:30] <theBIGelectron> Cool thanks somip
[04:33] <PoorCollegeGuy> hey quick question, my search bar in software center has gone missing
[04:33] <PoorCollegeGuy> anyone know why that might be?
[04:33] <akis> hi all. i am considering to install wine because i have to run a windows application. is it possible to run this application via wine only as user so that it wan't affect all the system or the installation of this *.exe file via wine wants root's privileges and it will be intalled to my root system?
[04:34] <Gerowen> If I installed 12.04 and then just did an upgrade to 12.10, without making any changes to the out-of-the-box state of 12.04, would i notice any huge differences?
[04:34] <Gerowen> Because I don't have any DVDs or thumb drives around to do a clean install of 12.10
[04:34] <Gerowen> Just CDs
[04:35] <h00k> Gerowen: new versions of stuffs like Unity, you'd notice
[04:36] <Gerowen> That wouldn't come in with an "upgrade" to 12.10 from an installed 12.04?
[04:36] <h00k> Gerowen: sure it would, it should be a pretty safe process, too.
[04:36] <h00k> Gerowen: in regards to 'would you notice from an upgraded system to a fresh install of 12.10' no
[04:37] <kev^> hi all. quick question... is there any pros or cons to using the closed-source ati driver? thinking about installing it
[04:38] <Gerowen> kev^: On my Toshiba I get much better performance from the proprietary one in Debian, and in older versions of Ubuntu, but for some reason I have a high pitched squeal from somewhere inside the laptop when I unplug the power cord if I use the proprietary driver.
[04:39] <akis> i found this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine and i think that *.exe files they will be installed in /user only. is that right?
[04:39] <Gerowen> But that has happened across multiple distros
[04:40] <nydel> is there a command to cd to the directory of a file / symbolic link
[04:41] <Gerowen> nydel: So the situation is, you know the exact filename of a file, but you want to CD to the folder it's in without specifying the whole directory?
[04:41] <jim29> Hi. Where would I find the configuration program for the windows manager in Ubuntu 12.10...I'd like to change my focus policy to "focus follows mouse".
[04:42] <Gerowen> h00k: Yay found a thumb drive!  Now I just gotta remember the name of the program for Debian that lets me put an ISO on a thumbstick...
[04:43] <nydel> Gerowen: yes. you can cd into a symbolic link of a folder & do "pwd -P" to see where it really is -- but i wanna go like " cd `pwd -P sldir` "
[04:43] <nydel> Gerowen: but pwd doesn't take an argument like that i don't think -- do you see what i mean though?
[04:43] <h00k> Gerowen: are you talking about unetbootin?
[04:43] <Gerowen> h00k: That's the one
[04:43] <h00k> Gerowen: ta-da!
[04:43] <Gerowen> nydel: Sounds like something you could pipe into the command, or use grep to accomplish, not an expert on those commands though
[04:44] <nydel> Gerowen: i wanna not use any regexp. or any exp. hah. i'm just being difficult, thanks for the idea i'll do that
[04:45] <nydel> Gerowen: can i ask, do you understand this command:  "./script.sh 1>/dev/null 2>&1"
[04:46] <sere> anyone know how i would start the gnome policy kit in the flux
[04:46] <Gerowen> nydel: Vaguely, not enough to be of any assistance, I could take a S.W.A.G, but that's all it'd be (S.W.A.G=Scientific Wild Ass Guess)
[04:48] <Phase> nydel: pwd -P <name of a symlink> just provides the directory it's in, at least for me.. what were you trying to do?
[04:48] <rraj> Hi. Im looking for source code of nm. Im not able to find the package name. Any help please?
[04:48] <nydel> Gerowen: lol what it does is route the output of the commmand ./shell.sh to /dev/null and also any errors (that is the 2) to /dev/null -- i just don't understand /why/ -- that is, i would't have written it, i had to look it up & find someone had written it in a forum. it looks really odd to me & i don't know what to ask about or look up
[04:49] <aeon-ltd> rraj: nm-applet?
[04:49] <nydel> Phase: for me, pwd -P name-of-sym-link provides the location of the symbolic link, not the location to which it points
[04:49] <nydel> Phase: do you say that for you it prints the location?
[04:50] <rraj> aeon-ltd:  Nope. This 'nm' is a tool to read object files
[04:51] <Phase> nydel: Let's say I have a symlink '/home/phase/test' pointing to the directory '/home/phase/something/random', `pwd -P test` gives me /home/phase
[04:51] <blargg> Any way to bring all of an app's windows to the front in Ubuntu 12, as in OS X when you click on the app's icon in the dock?
[04:51] <blargg> I don't want them scaled down, just to all be brought to the front layer in a single event
[04:51] <kev^> wow Gerowen... that 'high pitched squeal' is also happening to me with proprietary drivers, haha. what are the odds
[04:52] <kev^> i think it's the fan
[04:52] <nydel> Phase: i want it to give me /home/phase/something/random/ -- maybe i could go "cd `pwd test` && pwd -P" ??
[04:52] <DaemonicApathy> rraj, are you looking for the .gz file listed at the top of http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/intrepid/man1/nm.1.html ?
[04:52] <Phase> nydel: Try `ls -lh test`
[04:53] <jennie> any tool to diagnose HDD for error in linux ?
[04:53] <nydel> Phase: nevermind hah i was thinking pwd -p would return where it goes. that's the whole problem. disregard the last thing i said lol
[04:53] <jennie> in ubuntu
[04:53] <Phase> nydel: It's ok :)
[04:53] <rraj> DaemonicApathy:  Yes. Thanks. Can you tell me how to find a package name of a command in ubuntu?
[04:54] <DaemonicApathy> No idea, rraj.
[04:54] <nydel> Phase: i think if i use ls i have to use grep. -lh gives me something as useful as ls -l.
[04:54] <rraj> Its okay. Anyways, Thanks a lot. :)
[04:54] <nydel> Phase: there /has/ to be a way to do this without grep
[04:54] <Phase> nydel: You would need to yeah, but I'm not sure if there is.. might I ask why you want to avoid grep?
[04:55] <nydel> Phase: because i think the tool that i would use that lets me avoid grep is a tool i want to know about & read the manual pages related
[04:55] <Phase> nydel: Ah
[04:56] <wols> nydel: have yu checked "find"?
[04:56] <nydel> Phase: let's change the problem slightly.  say i wanna do "which bash" & cd into the directory
[04:56] <Jordan_U> nydel: readlink -f
[04:56] <nydel> wols: i bet you can do it with find. do you know how or have a suggestion?
[04:56] <sere> how do i start gnomes policy kit in fluxbox
[04:56] <nydel> Jordan_U: THANKYOU. one more thing though. how now do i cd into the directory of that file?
[04:57] <nydel> Jordan_U: like, if i wanted to do "which bash" & automatically go to that directory
[04:57] <beatrice> ! ciao
[04:57] <nydel> ( does cd have an argument maybe? )
[04:57] <Phase> nydel: cd $(readlink -f test)
[04:58] <nydel> Phase that tells me [readlink result] isn't a directory
[04:58] <Phase> works for me, readlink -f <symlink> prints just the path
[04:59] <nydel> now basically i just want to go "cd [-something here?] /path/to/file/file.c" & be in /path/to/file/
[04:59] <DaemonicApathy> nydel: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/59895/can-a-bash-script-tell-what-directory-its-stored-in
[05:00] <DaemonicApathy> May not answer your question entirely, but something similar got me started handling directories like that.
[05:01] <nydel> DaemonicApathy: thank you - i had a feeling the answer to this "question" was going to lead me to a bunch of stuff not just one thing. this is exactly what i was looking for.
[05:01] <nydel> thanks everyone very kindly.
[05:01] <DaemonicApathy> Excellent.
[05:01] <Phase> nydel: Glad you found your solution
[05:02] <nydel> Phase: you should check out the link, i think DaemonicApathy must have quite a handle on this odd little alley of the bash scripting villa
[05:02] <Phase> nydel: yep, I'm reading it now
[05:02] <nydel> :)
[05:03] <malkauns> why does the compiz wallpaper cycling plugin not work for me anymore?
[05:03] <DaemonicApathy> Can you elaborate, malkauns?
[05:04] <aata> i just installed ubuntu 12.10 on a machine that already had windows 7. did not overwrite the mbr with grub, rather kept the windows bootloader and used easybcd to add the ubuntu entry to it. all is good, expect when i boot into ubuntu, i get a grub command prompt. i know the sequence of commands to get it to boot up, but how do i make this happen everytime on startup?
[05:05] <wols> aata: you get a grub error message too
[05:05] <malkauns> DaemonicApathy, its supposed to cycle through your list of wallpapers, say every 10 minutes or so but for me the wallpaper does not change at all
[05:05] <wilee-nilee> aata, Have you run update-grub in ubuntu
[05:06] <DaemonicApathy> malkauns: Assuming you have the 'Cycle Wallpapers' box checked, do you have more than one wallpaper in the list?
[05:06] <aata> wilee-nilee: just update-grub? dont need to specify anything?
[05:06] <malkauns> DaemonicApathy, yes ofcourse :)
[05:06] <aata> wols: no error message - just a prompt
[05:07] <wols> then run update-grub as wilee-nilee suggested and make sure you have a /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[05:07] <wilee-nilee> aata, Thats what I would try first I'm not sure what eacybcd is reading. Did you put grub in the ubuntu partition on the install?
[05:07] <aata> wilee-nilee:  nope its on /boot
[05:08] <DaemonicApathy> Looks like a bug in 12.10, malkauns: https://bugs.launchpad.net/compiz/+bug/1020830
[05:08] <wilee-nilee> aata, A boot partition.?
[05:08] <malkauns> i'm not using 12.10 tho :P i'm using 12.04
[05:08] <DaemonicApathy> malkauns: Oh, sorry. Misread someone else's line as yours.
[05:09] <malkauns> DaemonicApathy, and that bug is about compiling the plugin
[05:09] <aata> i think it has something to do with grub not knowing which partition to look for boot files in... if i do root (hd0,4) at the prompt that switches to /boot. by default if you do ls at the grub prompt it lists teh contents of the windows drive
[05:09] <DaemonicApathy> I was confused too. It works fine for me.
[05:09] <aata> wilee-nilee: ^^
[05:10] <DaemonicApathy> malkauns: Not being an expert on this one, and with nobody else stepping up yet, all I can suggest is disabling the plugin, and then re-enabling it, making sure the settings are correct.
[05:10] <wilee-nilee> aata, This script is quite helpful in these situations you can run it and look at it and or post the text in a pastebin. http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[05:11] <malkauns> DaemonicApathy, tried that, thx anyway
[05:11] <Rajvi> Greetings Everyone, Fresh 12.04 installation: 1.Not able to create shortcuts on desktop. 2. How to disable apport ( damn annoying ) & how to fall back to Gnome   any version without downloading the packages, ie is the Gnome shell is present already somewhere.
[05:12] <aata> wilee-nilee: update grub didnt work yup. will try the script
[05:14]  * bitchaddict removes panties and craps into #linux
[05:15] <bitchaddict> and uses ubumtu to wipe ass
[05:15] <aeon-ltd> ...
[05:15] <Rajvi> Can I expect some help  :(
[05:16] <bitchaddict> can u help me to wipe my ass
[05:16] <bitchaddict> i bumtoo
[05:16] <nydel> that's not appropriate language
[05:17] <Rajvi> What's happening in here!!
[05:17] <nydel> please quit that bitchaddict
[05:17] <wols> !patience | Rajvi
[05:17] <bitchaddict> oh yeah and who r u to decide wats appropriate and wats not
[05:17] <nydel> Rajvi: just a moment, i'll look over your support request now
[05:17] <Rajvi> nydel: Thanks!
[05:18] <nydel> bitchaddict: i'm one person. so are you. let's both vote on whether you were being appropriate. okay? just come on now, friend. let's have a civil environment :)
[05:18] <nydel> bitchaddict: off-color language & shit is fine here-and-there but don't be a fag about it :)
[05:18]  * bitchaddict farts and pukes all over nydel
[05:19] <Malimbar> woh, what trollish behavior did I walk into
[05:19] <bitchaddict> you newfagg nyd
[05:19] <nydel> Malimbar: we were just stopping that.
[05:19] <nydel> sorry all
[05:19] <wols> nydel: no. you were simply feeding trolls. stop that
[05:19] <nydel> Rajvi: back to your request..
[05:19] <Malimbar> mmm, popcorn is tasty
[05:20] <nydel> wols: my mistake
[05:20] <bitchaddict> u newfagg can lick in between ur daddys ballsac
[05:20] <xangua> !ops | bitchaddict
[05:20] <nydel> Rajvi: you can logout, use the menu at the top right corner of the screen. then when you log back in, you can select your window manager. click your account name then there is a circle in the upper right corner of the box. you can select gnome there.
[05:21] <Rajvi> Everyone: Don't respond to bitchaddict
[05:21] <aata> wilee-nilee: pastebin.com/25X95RTn
[05:21] <bitchaddict> hahaa
[05:21] <Rajvi> nydel: Gnome is not available as a choice during login!!
[05:21] <malkauns> anybody else experience regular compiz/unity crashes?
[05:21] <nydel> Rajvi: okay we can go ahead and install it then, are you interested in doing that?
[05:22] <aata> wilee-nilee: see how sda5 has the grub on it and is /boot
[05:22] <Rajvi> Naah, I though so 12.04 might have some sort of Gnome any versions on it.
[05:23] <nydel> Rajvi: we don't support it technically, but i would recommend trying a window manager called cinnamon. it is included with linux mint. it works fine on my 12.10 but, again, we do not support it - canonical wants unity to be /the/ shell for ubuntu.
[05:23] <wols> aata: I'd reinstall grub then
[05:23] <aata> wols: on /boot?
[05:23] <nydel> Rajvi: installing gnome is very very easy with apt-get or aptitude..
[05:23] <Rajvi> I know, I was mostly shocked
[05:23] <xangua> Rajvi: Ubuntu already uses gnome, unity is just a shell for gnome
[05:23] <nydel> Rajvi: you might also be interested in awesomewm
[05:24] <Jordan_U> nydel: For the record, off-color language is *not* fine here-and-there in this channel, especially not homophobic slurs.
[05:24] <wols> aata: any partition. it does not matter
[05:24] <Rajvi> How to disable apport??
[05:24] <wols> aata: tho /boot with ext4 is strange. heck, having /boot is strange
[05:24] <nydel> Jordan_U: you're right, i was trying to handle an ugly situation delicately -- but anywhat, you're right, i mis-spoke.
[05:25] <aata> wols: doing it so that i dont have tio write grub to the mbr - makes updating windows easier supposedly
[05:25] <wols> aata: you are wrong
[05:25] <xangua> Rajvi: you mean this¿ http://www.webupd8.org/2012/06/how-to-get-rid-of-internal-system-error.html
[05:25] <wols> aata: in your case you would simply use a single partition for ubuntu
[05:26] <inocentpc> is there a developer in here? :)
[05:26] <nydel> inocentpc: there are developers here.
[05:26] <wilee-nilee> aata, You are missing all the grub needed in the OS to boot IO would from the terminal in ubuntu run sudo apt-get purge grub-pc grub-common then sudo apt-get install grub-pc grub-common  and when asked where to put grub this is the actual bootloader part put it in sda5  then run sudo update-grub and see if easybcd boots that.
[05:26] <BonSequitur> So, I'm setting up Ubuntu on another box, and it seems to be stuck on its first boot.
[05:27] <nydel> Rajvi: http://askubuntu.com/questions/93457/how-do-i-enable-or-disable-apport
[05:27] <Rajvi> yup
[05:27] <nydel> Rajvi: i think that will tell you how to disable apport completely, if that's what you'd like to do.
[05:27] <BonSequitur> I'm getting "[drm] nouveau 0000:02:00.0: failed to idle channel 3"
[05:27] <BonSequitur> And related errors, repeatedly.
[05:28] <Rajvi> I think i can take care of it
[05:28] <wilee-nilee> aata, Not sure that will fix it really though I would never use a boot partition.
[05:28] <Rajvi> and now not able to cretae shortcuts of desktop
[05:29] <nydel> Rajvi: can you open a terminal, try ctrl-alt-t?
[05:29] <wols> wilee-nilee: what output is this bootinfo script missing that you can say the files don't exist?
[05:29] <Rajvi> I am an average power user
[05:29] <nydel> Rajvi: does "ps -ef | grep nautilus" return more than one process?
[05:31] <Rajvi> nydel: yes, it returns more than one process
[05:31] <nydel> Rajvi: close all open file managers then do "sudo killall nautilus"
[05:31] <BonSequitur> And yeap, rebooting reproduces the problem.
[05:31] <nydel> Rajvi: after that, try to right-click the desktop & create a shortcut.
[05:32] <Rajvi> No i can't
[05:32] <Rajvi> I cannot even drag the icons from dash to desktop
[05:32] <pclov3r> Quck qustion if somebdoy is willing to help. What does /etc/issue output on 12.10
[05:33] <pclov3r> Don't have ubuntu installed but writing a script
[05:33] <BonSequitur> Well, I guess I'll delete the partition and try with the LTR version.
[05:33] <BonSequitur> Since the new one's video drivers just barfed so utterly the system won't even boot for the first time.
[05:33] <BonSequitur> Truly, it is the year of the Linux desktop.
[05:33] <nydel> Rajvi: when you right click the desktop, do you get a pop-up menu?
[05:34] <Rajvi> yes
[05:34] <Rajvi> but there is no option to create shortcut
[05:35] <nydel> Rajvi: it should say "create launcher"
[05:35] <Rajvi> sorry friend, remember I m on Unity
[05:36] <aata> wols: does the windows 7 boot loader "call" grub when i select the ubuntu partition?
[05:36] <hallofick> o/
[05:36] <nydel> Rajvi: open a file manager. navigate to ~/Desktop/
[05:36] <Rajvi> Okies
[05:36] <nydel> Rajvi: then try to create a shortcut inside the file manager?
[05:37] <albho_> hi friends i am unable to connect andriod phone via bluetooth over serial port to ubuntu machine? somebody please guide me how to do ?
[05:37] <nydel> albho_: to access the filesystem on your android?
[05:38] <wols> aata: it loads the first sector of the partition you specify, that's all it does
[05:38] <albho_> not so to transfer the gps from my phone to my ubuntu machine
[05:38] <wols> aata: but in your case the /boot partition is totally utterlly unneeded
[05:39] <Rajvi> nydel: I hate to disappoint u
[05:39] <aata> wols: so i should install grub on the ubuntu partition?
 not so to transfer the gps from my phone to my ubuntu machine
[05:40] <wols> aata: I just told before you it doesn't matter. do you even read?
[05:40] <Rajvi> But from ~/Desktop using  a file manager, I right click on the white space. no optiosn to create shortcut/launcher!!
[05:40] <nydel> create an empty document, Rajvi
[05:41] <Rajvi> k
[05:41] <nydel> call it "test" & close the file manager
[05:41] <nydel> open a terminal & "nano test"
[05:41] <Rajvi> i did, it work
[05:41] <nydel> (after cd Desktop)
[05:41] <Rajvi> hang oin
[05:42] <Rajvi> yes
[05:42] <nydel> Rajvi: in nano, type this: "#!/bin/bash" (newline) "gnome-terminal &" then press ctrl-x & "yes" to save
[05:42] <ecret> i had this issue long ago , I would login and just see:      $         I can't use shell features like tab, colours, etc..   I recall some command to use to get it after logging in
[05:43] <nydel> Rajvi: tell me when you're done with that
[05:43] <Rajvi> k
[05:43] <nydel> Rajvi: now in the terminal do "chmod 755 test" in the Desktop directory
[05:43] <aata> wols: i did read but the reason i chose to have a /boot was so that i dont overwrite the mbr. is there a way to specify to grub what partition it can find the kernel image, initrd etc on so that it looks there every time its loaded?
[05:43] <nydel> Rajvi: after that, double-click the icon on the desktop
[05:44] <nydel> Rajvi: tell me whether it opens a terminal window or if something else happens
[05:44] <Rajvi> Could u write a .sh :(
[05:46] <wols> aata: you never tell grub where to find it, it finds it on its own. it's always under /boot, no matter on which partition /boot is. finding the kernel is another totally irrelevant thing
[05:46] <wols> aata: and what you read there is totally utterly bogus
[05:46] <ecret> I can't even use tab in shell.  What was the command to get these features? All  I see is :    '$ '
[05:49] <nydel> Rajvi: did that work?
[05:50] <Rajvi> nydel: The test file is not a executable file \
[05:50] <Rajvi> the test file is NOW a executable file
[05:51] <Rajvi> But, still not able to create shgortcuts
[05:53] <konza> Rajvi, install gnome 3
[05:53] <Rajvi> Konza: How
[05:53] <konza> Rajvi, This link will help you http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-classic-gnome-desktop-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise.html
[05:54] <Gerowen> Question, I'm watching Ubuntu 12.10 install on this other laptop I have.  Why is there an Amazon icon in the panel?  Please tell me Ubuntu isn't leaning toward the route of pre-installed Windows PCs where, in 2 versions, I'll spend 2 hours removing all the crapware that came on it.
[05:54] <bazhang> !adlens | Gerowen
[05:55] <Gerowen> Yay for ubottu!
[05:55] <bazhang> Gerowen, remove the single package
[05:57] <Gerowen> I don't mind relevant search suggestions, but I saw what appears to be a corporate sponsored piece of software on an "out-of-the-box" linux distro, and my heart raced a little
[05:57] <Gerowen> appeard*
[05:57] <Gerowen> appeared* <---Spelling
[05:57] <nydel> Rajvi: you have to do "chmod 755 test" in terminal
[05:57] <nydel> Rajvi: otherwise it will give you "not executable" error
[05:57] <nydel> Rajvi: did you get that?
[05:58] <Rajvi> yes
[05:59] <Rajvi> the "TesT file is now a executable file
[05:59] <Rajvi> I run it - nothing hapenned
[05:59] <rexwin_> what does loadkeys command so and what is the typical duration this command takes to complete? it is running in my system for more than 5 min.
[05:59] <rexwin_> do*
[06:01] <Phase> rexwin_: http://linux.about.com/library/cmd/blcmdl1_loadkeys.htm
[06:01] <rolling> !ops rolling is back
[06:01] <wols> rolling: it changes the keyboard map for your console. it should return instantly
[06:02] <wols> rexwin_: ^^
[06:02] <wols> rexwin_: it changes the keyboard map for your console. it should return instantly
[06:02] <wols> rexwin_: how did you run the command?
[06:03] <rexwin_> just "loadkey" without quotes and it is about more than 5 min since i have run the command.
[06:03] <wols> that's why. press ctrl+c
[06:04] <rexwin_> the special character above numbers are not working. it is a virtual ubuntu machine.
[06:04] <rexwin_> "loadkeys"
[06:04] <wols> rexwin_: it needs a filename as an argument
[06:08] <StormTwo> im back
[06:08] <rexwin_> i have used this command in other distro and it loads US keymap when run without arguments.
[06:08] <StormTwo> i need answer broo
[06:09] <StormTwo> rexwin_ what command?
[06:13] <wols> rexwin_: it never did
[06:13] <StormTwo> anyone here?
[06:14] <rexwin_> loadkeys
[06:14] <wols> !gq | StormTwo
[06:20] <StormTwo> ubottu, okay. im sorry, i wont do it again, please dont banned me
[06:22] <angel2979> Hello, I would like to know if it possible to disable commercial suggestions on Ubuntu?
[06:22] <StormTwo> ubottu ok :)
[06:22] <bazhang> !adlens | angel2979
[06:22] <bazhang> StormTwo, did you have an actual support question?
[06:23] <bazhang> StormTwo, this is a support channel only ; random chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic NOT here
[06:23] <alusion_> Is LightWorks for ubuntu released yet
[06:24] <bazhang> alusion_, apt-cache search lightworks
[06:24] <Gerowen> So just got 12.10 installed on this laptop, getting all my personal settings done up, and I must say, on a lower end system, this new version of Unity and Ubuntu is proving to be much more responsive than I remember it being at first.
[06:24] <Gerowen> Very user friendly and easy to get up and running with all my online accounts.
[06:24] <alusion_> interesting command, thanks bazhang
[06:25] <StormTwo> yes bazhang
[06:25] <StormTwo> my 12.10 ubuntu doenst work
[06:25] <StormTwo> *doesnt
[06:25] <aeon-ltd> StormTwo: more details
[06:26] <penguinman> StormTwo: more specific please :)
[06:26] <StormTwo> it crashes every start up, so then i have to change back into 10.10
[06:26] <aiFrantz> *ehem* quick question : I have netbook with Intel Atom / Intel GMA 3150. Resolution in Windows can achieve 1024x600 (stable and sharp) but much lower in Ubuntu
[06:26] <penguinman> StormTwo: did you try to hard update from 10.10?
[06:27] <StormTwo> yes penguinman
[06:27]  * nydel is away: msg-me-if-you-like
[06:27] <penguinman> StormTwo: that's a pretty massive jump in distros, my suggestion would be a fresh install
[06:27] <aeon-ltd> aiFrantz: have you installed the drivers?
[06:27] <mortal> I had to upgrade from precise to get quantal working on my eee pc
[06:27] <penguinman> backup your /home and just do a clean install.
[06:28] <mortal> fresh install xorg did not work
[06:28] <aiFrantz> do we need extra drivers? I see nothing inside that jockey-gtk except for broadcom, aeon-ltd
[06:28] <StormTwo> penguinman what is fresh install? sorry im new at this
[06:28] <Gerowen> Random question about 12.10, I'm using XChat to do IRC, when I close it I hit "minimize to tray", however in Unity there is no Gnome tray, but the application is still running, how do I regain control of applications that would normally hide in the Gnome system tray?
[06:28] <penguinman> StormTwo: install from CD/USB
[06:28] <Gerowen> I'm kind of new to Unity
[06:29] <penguinman> StormTwo: just like if it wasn't installed at all previously
[06:29] <StormTwo> penguinman: thank you br
[06:30] <penguinman> StormTwo: if you want to preserve your settings, files, etc back up your /home directory first, then just restore that folder. should save any settings that are still applicable. though you will have to reinstall all your non-default applications.
[06:32] <aiFrantz> aeon-ltd: do we need extra drivers? I see nothing inside that jockey-gtk except for broadcom
[06:32] <StormTwo> penguinman: still wont work
[06:32] <penguinman> StormTwo: as in it won't boot the live CD?
[06:32] <xangua> Gerowen: you need xchat-indicator to show in the message incidator (envelope) ; i don't know if the plugin supports the new ondemand behavior
[06:34] <aeon-ltd> aiFrantz: if you already have the intel drivers installed then i have no idea
[06:35] <aiFrantz> aeon-ltd: okay then. I'll study about it again.
[06:35] <wols> aiFrantz: check your Xorg.0.log what driver it uses, what resolutions it can use
[06:36] <charleyfoxtrot> anyone know ‎there is a performance difference between ubuntu studio and ubuntu xfce ? Does the real-time kernel affect performance/stability?
[06:36] <aiFrantz> wols: thanks. where can I find the log, or do I need to type few commands in the terminal ?
[06:36] <charleyfoxtrot> xubuntu and ubuntu studio i mean
[06:40] <wols> aiFrantz: /var/log
[06:40] <Gerowen> xangua: Thanks for that.  After installing the Google Play Music Manager, I see that it does function properly in adding an icon to the top panel, XChat seems to be the only problem app so far.
[06:41] <aiFrantz> wols : thanks. I'll look the log. thanks again ~
[06:43] <square> is anyone here using ubuntu on the nexus 7?
[06:48] <teto2005> Guys hi there
[06:48] <teto2005> Have aquestion
[06:49] <hateball> !ask
[06:49] <mats> yes
[06:49] <mats> maybe i can help
[06:50] <teto2005> Oh thanks I thought people are idle..
[06:50] <teto2005> Anyway
[06:50] <teto2005> I have Dell inspiron 1525
[06:51] <teto2005> When I install BT based on ubuntu the wireless is not working..
[06:51] <teto2005> Otherwise when I install ubuntu it works  with externalUSB card
[06:51] <teto2005> Why?
[06:54] <hkerl> .
[06:54] <jim29> Where do I find the configuration program for the window manager in Ubuntu 12.10? I'd like to change the focus policy from "click to focus" to "focus follows mouse".
[06:54] <purvesh> I had booted from my usb bootable ubuntu 12.04 & 12.10 and copy & pasted some data to my laptop's windows drive, but when i rebooted to windows that content is not showing (or deleted automatically) even i had tried booting from both version.
[06:55] <fairuz_> When I click on the unmounted partition on the left side. It failed to mount. It tried to mount to /media/fairuz/uuid-here instead of /media/uuid-here
[06:55] <fairuz_> Any pointers?
[06:56] <rihen> hello can anyone help me install gnome 3.6 with backward porting
[06:56] <rihen> ?
[07:08] <ivgenij> hello, please to ubuntu-ru community server settings
[07:12] <hateball> !ru | ivgenij
[07:13] <xangua> rihen: ubuntu 12.10 already uses gnome 3.6
[07:14] <rihen> i am running 12.04 lts with gnome 3.4 and want upgrade
[07:14] <rihen> i have completely removed unity from ubuntu 12.04
[07:15] <ivgenij> 13:14 -!- #ubuntu-ru Cannot send to channel
[07:16] <blackshirt> rihen, thats great
[07:17] <rihen> blackshirt, how do i go for gnome 3.6
[07:18] <blackshirt> rihen, was there available in repository for 3.6 version?
[07:18] <laite> ivgenij: (I'm not sure about politics in #ubuntu-ru, but) you propably need to register your nick: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#registering
[07:18] <rihen> blackshirt, no
[07:19] <blackshirt> rihen, i think maybe better you waiting for it
[07:19] <rihen> yes
[07:19] <rihen> :)
[07:21] <blackshirt> yes, actually you can do upgrade with compile them ... But it was tricky a hard :d
[07:22] <aiFrantz> rihen : I've lookup inside the packages.ubuntu.com and the latest available gnome package is 3.4 only for Precise. Sorry then, you've to compile for yourself or search for PPA
[07:24] <xangua> (01:17:15) rihen: blackshirt, how do i go for gnome 3.6 - upgrade to ubuntu 12.10
[07:24] <aiFrantz> rihen : if you wanna try the PPA, you can use this (well... I think) http://www.webupd8.org/2012/09/gnome-36-released-see-whats-new.html
[07:25] <rihen> xangua,  terminal<Alt+t>,sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
[07:25] <rihen> ok thanks aiFrantz
[07:26] <aiFrantz> rihen : no prob :)
[07:26] <rihen> also i have seen a ubuntu-gnome mix package
[07:26] <rihen> what is it that guys
[07:27] <laite> rihen: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/ReleaseNotes/12.10 ?
[07:28] <timfrost> I was running ubuntu 12.04 with classic interface.  Automount made USB devices available under /media with label or UUID (/media/Elements or /media/1234-FECD or the like). After upgrade to 12.10, the Elements disk isn't auto-mounted and I get an error dialog box tiled "Unable to mount Elements" with text 'Adding read ACL for UID 1000 to /media/tim failed: Operation not supported' when I use "places" to access it.  Any suggestions?
[07:32] <aiFrantz> timfrost : try fdisk -l , does the drive can be seen there?
[07:34] <angel2979> Hello, I am using evolution for managing my emails, recently I've installed the latest Ubuntu version and when I am trying to restore my emails with the restore option its begin the process and than crashed I've tried to use also old backup files that work before and its still the same, any idea?
[07:34] <timfrost>  aiFrantz: shows as /dev/sdc: dev/sdc1            2048  3907024895  1953511424    7  HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
[07:35] <angel2979> So the problem is not in the file (because I tried to use several backup files), I think there is something wrong with the evolution on the new Ubuntu version any idea how to solve this?
[07:38] <aiFrantz> timfrost : I just sent 2 links via 1-to-1 dialogue window.. tell me if you didn't receive it
[07:40] <timfrost> aiFrantz:thanks PM window has opened.  Will investigate
[07:41] <aiFrantz> timfrost : I'll be here in 1 or 2 more hours.. tell me your findings if you're still here during that period :)
[07:46] <Gerowen> So it's been a while, and I've noticed Sun Java is no longer available in the default repos.  I know that if you go to java.com and download it you'll get Java 7, and I know Java 7 was based off the OpenJDK project.  How good is Java 7 actually, is it stable and worth using?
[07:46] <Gerowen> Just from an end-user standpoint mind you, I don't write Java code, I just want to be able to run java applets in Firefox
[07:48] <timfrost> aiFrantz: as I just said in PM, creating the directory /media/tim and setting ownership to my userid of tim has worked for the Elements disk.Testing with a smaller USB key also works.  Missed that change in the release notes.  Thanks for the pointer
[07:49] <aiFrantz> timfrost : glad you get it worked then...
[07:50] <BlackWeb> Having a slight problem with 12.04 if anyone could help me out, Which trying to change the login screen and I've used Ubuntu Tweak to change it before, but for some reason it doesnt work anymore to where, with ubuntuTweak then its selected to use the desired wallpaper, but its using another one instead of a satellite and the earth? any ideas? The Permissions are all set right also
[07:55] <timfrost> aiFrantz: I am just surprised that it didn't show in a search from the Ubuntu home page
[07:56] <aiFrantz> timfrost : me too. Ubuntu changed the way drives are mounted in /media ....
[08:00] <Marzatha> can somebody tell me what the line "echo N > /sys/module/drm_kms_helper/parameters/poll" is doing?
[08:02] <amirrabie> hi......how i can install grub with ubuntu live cd?
[08:03] <Jordan_U> amirrabie: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_ChRoot
[08:03] <timfrost> Marzatha: turning off polling for that kernel module ?
[08:07] <jeaton> i dont have any burnables dvds or usb drives this very minute, and i don't want to upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04
[08:07] <jeaton> anyway of running a virtual drive, booting to the image and installing that way?
[08:07] <Marzatha> timfrost: sounds so
[08:07]  * dtaht wonders if fq_codel is enabled in the main ubuntu kernel yet.
[08:07]  * dtaht knows it's in kamal's ppa
[08:09] <bond__> ntpd is not working in my system... i forwarded my clock by half hour yesterday and after 12 hours thee not a difference of even a single minute. I made necessary changes in /etc/ntp.conf Any idea what I might be missing?
[08:09] <bond__> I am using ubuntu 12.04
[08:15] <jamesbond> ntpd is not working in my ubuntu 12.04... i forwarded my clock by half hour yesterday and after 12 hours thee not a difference of even a single minute. I made necessary changes in /etc/ntp.conf Any idea what I might be missing?
[08:15] <timfrost> jamesbond: !pastebin the output from 'ntpq -c peers'
[08:16] <jamesbond> timfrost: i get following thing: "ntpq: read: Connection refused"
[08:18] <BWorld> Hi guys, I was here a few days ago already, I am having problems with the postinst script when installing mysql-server, my syslog looks like this one when installing: http://lists.ourshack.com/pipermail/mythtvnz/2012-June/012749.html
[08:19] <timfrost> jamesbond: are you sure that ntpd is running? That message suggests that it isn't.
[08:19] <Guest15365> Suppose i am opening termianl and it automatically show some message say as "Hello myname" . How to do this
[08:19] <BWorld> I had mysql-server installed but I had some issues after modifying my.cnf, some way I couldn't fix it anymore so I decided to remove the entire mysql-server and reinstall it but now I am stuck with these errors showed in the above posted link
[08:20] <jamesbond> i did following: sudo apt-get install ntp and then configured /etc/ntp.conf Was there anything else required?
[08:20] <BWorld> When I install the mysql-server on a fresh virtualbox vm of ubuntu 12.04 (server edition) it all goes perfectly ...
[08:21] <jamesbond> timfrost: i did following: sudo apt-get install ntp and then configured /etc/ntp.conf Was there anything else required?
[08:23] <everestt> I just installed 12.10 today, and I'm having problem with dependencies while installing packages using apt-get... here's a typical output from the terminal http://paste.ubuntu.com/1317371/ ...this problem does not occur with every package that i'm trying to install... does 12.10 have unresolved dependency problems? help!
[08:23] <Jordan_U> !pm | amirrabie
[08:23] <timfrost> jamesbond: you need to start/restart the service with 'sudo service ntp start'
[08:25] <everestt> :/ similar error while trying to install matplotlib http://paste.ubuntu.com/1317377/
[08:26] <jamesbond> timfrost: here is the output now.. i guess it will work now.. http://pastebin.com/CnhtEbuy
[08:26] <Guest15365> Suppose i am opening termianl and it automatically show some message say as "Hello myname" . How to do this. Any idea
[08:27] <Guest74462> can someone tell me why ubuntu froze after I boot him from usb?
[08:27] <titusg> hi, I am trying to install 32-bit compat libs (ia32-libs) on a fresh 64-bit quantal, but it tells me a package it depends on -- ia32-libs-multiarch -- is not installable...any ideas
[08:28] <BWorld> Is there more to due except then: apt-get remove mysql-server*; apt-get purge mysql-server*; sudo rm -rf /var/lib/mysql; sudo rm -rf /etc/mysql ?
[08:28] <everestt> titusg,  i'm having similar problems, although with other packages.
[08:29] <mz|`> BWorld: finally, find / -name "*mysql*" -exec rm -rf {} \;
[08:29] <timfrost> jamesbond: that looks good.  That should have synced the clock to one of the servers (probably the first), and will keep the times synchronized.  It will take a few minutes for the ntp daemon to decide which server to use as master, but after that the time should be kept n sync
[08:29] <BWorld> Hmm, that is going to be a reall big list of files with Magento and Zend Framework on my disk ...
[08:29] <BWorld> and much more
[08:29] <Guest74462> why ubuntu frozes when I boot him from usb stick (unebootin) ??
[08:30] <mz|`> BWorld: so, you let the package manager do the job.
[08:30] <mz|`> :)
[08:30] <titusg> everestt: I suppose we need to wait for a fix upstream? I want to do some Android programming, no 64-bit SDK available :-(
[08:32] <jamesbond> timfrost: it isn't working as it was suppose to.. i made a 30 minutes change in clock and it corrected it in one go. I wanted it to be corrected little by little using ntp daemon..
[08:35] <timfrost> jamesbond: I believe that the start process uses ntpdate to set the clock, then ntpd is started to keep the clock synchronized.  ntpdate will "fix" the clock regardless of the difference
[08:35] <greenit> hi, i have a ubuntu server with utc as default time, but with the change from summertime to wintertime, the clock is now 1 hour before the real time... what is the right time to choose and is there a time which automatically changes with summer/wintertime?
[08:36] <titusg> This is the bug affecting me: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ia32-libs/+bug/1016294 -- am quite desperate.
[08:36] <jamesbond> timfrost: Thanks a lot
[08:37] <tom1210> my 12.10 install has stopped connecting to wlan properly
[08:37] <Jordan_U> mz|`: BWorld: It's never a good idea to run a find command that deletes things without testing it first to make sure it doesn't delete things you actually want, and '-f' is almost never needed with rm, and when it is you should probably be thinking twice about removing said file(s) anyway.
[08:37] <tom1210> it connects properly using a realtek usb dongle
[08:37] <nawk> man, Unity is soooo bad
[08:38] <Jordan_U> nawk: This channel is for support questions only, please take other discussion elsewhere.
[08:38] <tom1210> my 1210 has stopped connecting using broadcom
[08:38] <llutz> !notunity | nawk
[08:39] <titusg> Got the advice at ubuntuforums that I should junk my installation and install 32-bit. Gee, thanks!
[08:40] <timfrost> greenit: UTC is fixed because it us "universal coordinated time", but there will be a locale setting that will give you UK time that adjusts for daylight savings. I don't know what that locale setting is (Europe/UK or similar perhaps?)
[08:41] <czardoz> so I installed 12.04 LTS, and plugged in my USB mouse (which works fine).. problem is, whenever a key on my keyboard is pressed, the mouse doesnt move/respond
[08:41] <czardoz> anything I can do to fix it
[08:41] <czardoz> ?
[08:42] <oddalot> weird
[08:42] <czardoz> oddalot: i know... can't find anything about it on the internet
[08:42] <czardoz> x-(
[08:42] <oddalot> i guess i never even move my mouse when i'm typing
[08:42] <nawk> well, the problem I am experiencing cannot be resolved until the next revision of Randr, at least that's what I've been told
[08:42] <oddalot> are you using usb keyboar too?
[08:42] <czardoz> oddalot: I'm playing OpenArena :P
[08:43] <czardoz> oddalot: nope
[08:43] <czardoz> oddalot: the touchpad works even when im typing though
[08:43] <oddalot> hmmm, that's same setup i'm using, and it seems to word
[08:43] <oddalot> oh, so you think it's the mouse that's causing the problems then
[08:43] <czardoz> oddalot: it works just fine in Arch
[08:44] <boba88> hi, does anyone know how to fix this configure: error: SpiderMonkey is required for Script node JavaScript support ?
[08:44] <oddalot> arch?
[08:44] <czardoz> Arch Linux
[08:44] <nawk> multi-monitor setup involving rotations of individual screens  is not supported
[08:44] <oddalot> did you try rebooting lol?
[08:44] <czardoz> lol yeah :D
[08:44] <BWorld> mz|`, okee, removed everything related to mysql, running apt-get install mysql-server-5.5 again... really excited
[08:45] <stevecam> who maintains the nvidia drivers, is it nvidia or the community?
[08:45] <oddalot> crazy
[08:45] <oddalot> did you try a different usb port?
[08:45] <czardoz> yep, tried it
[08:46] <czardoz> tried a different mouse too
[08:46] <BWorld> mz|`, .... still the same, do you have an idea? http://pastebin.com/MNJPeM53
[08:47] <oddalot> weird to the max
[08:47] <stevecam> ive discovered a missing dependency with the nvidia-current drivers, how would i correct this?
[08:48] <tarzeau> i've got a machine that needs later nvidia drivers otherwise crashes badly x than ubuntu provides. now what?
[08:48] <auronandace> !launchpad | stevecam
[08:48] <timfrost> !nvidia | stevecam
[08:48] <stevecam> tarzeau, you need to install linux-headers-generic and reinstall the nvidia drivers
[08:49] <tarzeau> stevecam: no ubuntu doesn't have the drivers that the graphics card needs: 304.51
[08:49] <tarzeau> stevecam: 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GK104 [GeForce GTX 680] (rev a1)
[08:49] <tarzeau> stevecam: this according to nvidia is only supported by that driver and later
[08:50] <quatar> hi. In nautilus, I just have added a ssh link to my home in a remote host, and bookmarked it. Now how can I put the same bookmark on the desktop? (ubuntu 12.04)
[08:50] <stevecam> hmm, let me check what i have
[08:51] <BWorld> And syslog, again reporting about table 'plugin' already exists and some error on privilege tables, posted it here: http://pastebin.com/XuQc9L7v
[08:52] <Chakravanti> why do i have to set up an email to use the calander...or how do i tell evolution to disregard?
[08:54] <CrazyHorse18> hey this guy says: http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect-server-ubuntu-12.04-lts-nginx-bind-dovecot-ispconfig-3-p3
[08:55] <stevecam> tarzeau, i only have the GT430, just had a look, im not sure, i would love to help you a little more but ive had a long day, have you tried just installing the drivers from nvidia? that's what i would do at times
[08:55] <CrazyHorse18> AppArmor is a security extension (similar to SELinux) that should provide extended security. In my opinion you don't need it to configure a secure system, and it usually causes more problems than advantages (think of it after you have done a week of trouble-shooting because some service wasn't working as expected, and then you find out that everything was ok, only AppArmor was causing the problem). Therefore I disable it (this is a must if you want t
[08:55] <CrazyHorse18> what's your guys opinions?
[08:55] <tarzeau> stevecam: yes that worked of course
[08:55] <tarzeau> stevecam: but sucks if you maintain 150 ubuntu machines and you have to do one manually
[08:56] <tarzeau> stevecam: and there's more than just one such case...
[08:56] <blackshirt> crazyhorse, no,if you configure it correctly
[08:56] <llutz> no polls here please CrazyHorse18 ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:56] <tarzeau> CrazyHorse18: i absolutely agree
[08:56] <CrazyHorse18> llutz: not a poll. i'm setting up a server
[08:56] <CrazyHorse18> tarzeau: so does that mean just go with stardard file permissions?
[08:56] <stevecam> tarzeau, is it just the nvidia drivers you are having problems with?
[08:57] <tarzeau> stevecam: no there's many more special cases with problems without solutions
[08:57] <tarzeau> CrazyHorse18: works fine for me
[08:57] <CrazyHorse18> yeah my last server got hacked
[08:57] <blackshirt> crazyhorse18, MAC security was great way to increase security of linux box
[08:57] <stevecam> tarzeau, well, its the way of the future
[08:57] <CrazyHorse18> so i want to lock this one right down
[08:58] <tarzeau> stevecam: what? that people can't just use a computer as a tool? and need to read manuals and fix stuff to get their tool working properly?
[08:58] <tarzeau> stevecam: come on. apple does it right, some car manufacturers can do it...
[08:58] <tarzeau> stevecam: ever tried unity on more than one screen?
[08:58] <SharkeyO> hello there. I have big problems installing nginx on my ubuntu system
[08:58] <SharkeyO> can anyone please help me with that?
[08:59] <stevecam> no, that sounds awful lol
[08:59] <blackshirt> crazyhorse18, there are similar tool available, even you can lock up your root power with this security
[08:59] <tarzeau> SharkeyO: maybe, i use it too. which version?
[08:59] <quatar> hi all. I want to add a sftp/scp link to my desktop like I do when I bookmark a sftp/scp link in nautilus' side panel. How can I?
[08:59] <tarzeau> stevecam: it is!
[08:59] <SharkeyO> when i installed nginx via "apt-get install nginx" and started it, it says "500 internal server error"
[08:59] <SharkeyO> but al i did was install ist
[08:59] <SharkeyO> it
[08:59] <SharkeyO> so, what can i do now?
[08:59] <tarzeau> SharkeyO: have you configured nginx? check the log files, usually /var/log/nginx ?
[08:59] <SharkeyO> I'm pretty new to Ubuntu
[08:59] <stevecam> tarzeau, the problem ubuntu have at the moment is that instead of being linux they are trying to compete with windows, but unfortunately linux != windows
[09:00] <tarzeau> stevecam: and they are trying to copy os x too, but only the look not its idea
[09:00] <tarzeau> stevecam: then even if they are able to make it look good. it feels like shit
[09:00] <tarzeau> stevecam: user interface is everything. and the company nextstep did it just right, if you want to read up some good documentation, i have some linked at livecd.gnustep.org
[09:01] <SharkeyO> tarzeau: it says error: rewrite or internal redirection cycle while internally redirecting to "/index.html"
[09:01] <tarzeau> SharkeyO: google that?
[09:01] <SharkeyO> ok, thanks
[09:01] <tarzeau> SharkeyO: or look at your index.html what does it say?
[09:02] <stevecam> maybe another day
[09:02] <MomoDav> hi all
[09:03] <blackshirt> hi momodav
[09:03] <SharkeyO> tarzeau: the index.html is written properly. Everything is fine
[09:03] <SharkeyO> but the cyclingtakes event and i don't know where or wh
[09:03] <SharkeyO> why
[09:08] <nawk> !notunity > nawk
[09:13] <SharkeyO> tarzeau: think i don't get this to work
[09:13] <SharkeyO> there's no solution on google, that works for me
[09:13] <SharkeyO> NGINX says: rewrite or internal redirection cycle while internally redirecting to "/index.html"
[09:13] <SharkeyO> for client 127.0.0.1 and server: localhost
[09:17] <yacc> 10.04LTS, any idea why I cannot access a Win7 share via mount -o cifs, which works fine via smbclient?
[09:19]  * jokar hello all
[09:19] <jokar> how can i remove unity and install gnome classic ?
[09:19] <llutz> !classic >jokar
[09:19] <gordonjcp> jokar: travel back in time ten years?
[09:20] <jokar> i remove all unity package
[09:20] <jokar> apt-get remove unity*
[09:20] <jokar> i want install gnome 2
[09:21] <llutz> gnome2 is dead
[09:21] <frenk> ciao
[09:22] <jokar> yes
[09:22] <jokar> but i need it
[09:22] <jokar> unity is very heavy for my virtual machine
[09:22] <_cronus_> jokar, me too mate
[09:22] <llutz> jokar: there are dozens of other DE/WMs
[09:22] <jokar> any idea?
[09:22] <b0agn> jokar: You could try MATE.
[09:22] <jokar> mate?
[09:22] <jokar> how can i install it?
[09:22] <laite> jokar: you could had a look on ubuntu spins like lubuntu/xubuntu
[09:23] <jokar> No i like Gnome
[09:23] <b0agn> jokar: MATE is a fork of Gnome 2: http://mate-desktop.org/
[09:23] <jokar> i will do it
[09:27] <Jordan_U> jokar: MATE isn't supported here. XFCE is lighter than GNOME2, actively maintained, officially supported, and is very similar to GNOME2.
[09:27] <Jordan_U> !xubuntu | jokar
[09:27] <alsight> man irssi
[09:27] <Jordan_U> jokar: And if you really want low resource usage look into LXDE.
[09:27] <Jordan_U> !lubuntu | jokar
[09:28] <jokar> Jordan_U: i install gnome shell
[09:28] <jokar> Jordan_U: can i send PM?
[09:28] <jokar> o/ Jordan_U:
[09:28] <jokar> o/ Jordan_U
[09:29] <alsight> d
[09:29] <Jordan_U> jokar: GNOME Shell is also supported. Yes you may PM me, but 1: I prefer to keep support discussion in-channel and 2: I'm leaving in about 2 minutes.
[09:29] <alsight> people r u here?
[09:29] <cfhowlett> alsight: greetings
[09:30] <tobias____> Hey every
[09:30] <LKJ> Hey
[09:30] <tobias____> I am having a big issue... i have been trying to solve it for a week.
[09:30] <alsight> cfhowlett: XD
[09:30] <tobias____> Anyone around who knows ubuntu pretty well?
[09:30] <cfhowlett> !details|tobias____:
[09:30] <Jordan_U> !anyone | tohtori_
[09:30] <Jordan_U> tohtori_: Sorry, that was for tobias____ :)
[09:31] <tobias____> I have a problem with syncing my iphone with my ubuntu version 12.4 when i try to sync using the program amarok i can see the music files but i cant delete or manipulate them. I also cant sync because the button isnt highlighted.
[09:32] <chatman> !iphone | tobias____
[09:33] <alsight> ))))
[09:33] <alextest> man irssi
[09:33] <alsight> )))
[09:33] <alsight> kjh
[09:33] <alextest> not
[09:34] <alextest> ?
[09:34] <alextest> ?
[09:34] <tobias____> thanks ubouttu ill check it out... although ive checked out 100s of websites
[09:34] <tobias____> and none have helped me.
[09:34] <BWorld> finally!! The answer to my problem about the installation error on mysql was about granting shutdown and select privilege to debian-sys-maint user
[09:34] <alextest> i
[09:35] <alextest> exit
[09:35] <alextest> logout
[09:35] <alextest> quit
[09:35] <somsip> alextest: try /quit
[09:35] <alextest> thanks
[09:36] <BWorld> I wonder how it comes that this problem only occurs when you have uninstalled mysqlserver and install it again, on fresh setup I didn't need to do this ....
[09:39] <somsip> BWorld: mysql will create tables for privileges and it's possible these are not removed unless you purge the app, rather than uninstalling it, or even suro rm -rf /var/lib/mysql
[09:39] <somsip> *sudo
[09:40] <BWorld> somsip: Well, that is strange, where is this information stored? I have purged (apt-get purge mysql-server*) and removed /var/lib/mysql
[09:40] <BWorld> somsip: well, in my opinion it is strange because I probably dont understand how this is working on low level
[09:40] <somsip> BWorld: IME, that is where table info is installed.
[09:40] <blackshirt> bworld, removing /var/lib/mysql ??? Not needed
[09:41] <BWorld> Well, when you are out of solutions you try everything.. I backup all my database before I removed this directory ;-)
[09:41] <BWorld> backed up *
[09:42] <blackshirt> bworld, what the strange happen ?
[09:44] <tobias____> hey ubottu
[09:45] <GNUbuntu> hoi
[09:45] <tobias____> When i attempt to type this into my terminal
[09:45] <chatman> !ubottu | tobias____
[09:45] <BWorld> blackshirt: I uninstalled my mysql-server due to problems on starting the service I couldn't solve, when I tried to reinstall it it was causing me trouble again about 'Table 'plugin' already exists' and some error on executing a privileg related query. The "strange" factor is that this is not happening on a fresh ubuntu system
[09:45] <BWorld> So what I did
[09:45] <tobias____> oh ubottu is a bot?
[09:45] <tobias____> haha is there anyone whos a human who wouldnt mind helping me?
[09:46] <MomoDav> I'm a human but i can't help you with that, sorry :)
[09:46] <BWorld> Was install mysql-server, let it fail but I was able to run mysqld manually from terminal and login to it, then granted the SELECT and SHUTDOWN privilege to the debian-system-maint user and after that I was able to complete the installation with the package manager
[09:46] <tobias_> Any one around whos a human who may be able to help me?
[09:47] <BWorld> tobias_: If you start telling your problem maybe someone will
[09:47] <tobias_> well im trying to sync my iphone w ubuntu 12.3
[09:47] <tobias_> 12.4*
[09:47] <MomoDav> what do you mean, "sync" ?
[09:47] <tobias_> right now imt rying to type in http://webchat.freenode.net/
[09:47] <BWorld> tobias_: and your problem is?
[09:47] <tobias_> whoops
[09:47] <tobias_> sudo apt-get hold libmtp8 libmtp-dev libusb-dev libusb-0.1-4
[09:47] <tobias_> trying to type that into terminal
[09:48] <tobias_> but it says
[09:48] <tobias_> E: invalid operation hold.
[09:48] <BWorld> install
[09:48] <MomoDav> why hold ? oO
[09:48] <MomoDav> install lol
[09:48] <BWorld> haha
[09:48] <somsip> !pinning | tobias_
[09:48] <MomoDav> sudo apt-get install
[09:48] <tobias_> so im not sure what im doing?
[09:48] <MomoDav> you are adding libraries to your ubuntu
[09:49] <tobias_> so i dont need to do that?
[09:49] <tobias_> i have downloaded all of the apps for syncing iphone to my comp and none of them work, i can see the songs in the iphone... but i cant manipulate them.
[09:50] <MomoDav> you don't "download apps" with ubuntu, you use the package manager to install them … and thanks to it, it will calculate dependencies and install them automatically …
[09:51] <tobias_> okay so in rythmbox when i go to sync library, the sync button is not highlighed
[09:51] <tobias_> so i cant even click it?
[09:51] <tobias_> all of the apps have some issue simular.
[09:52] <blackshirt> bworld, was purging process run successfully, i mean no error
[09:52] <tobias_> gtkpod asks for my ipod mount point.. where is that?
[09:52] <tobias_> where do i mount it?
[09:53] <BWorld> there was no error when I removed mysql-server-common but there were errors when removing mysql-server-5.5 because it asked me to put in a password wich it could not set
[09:53] <guibog> ?
[09:53] <blackshirt> bworld, thats mean,  mysql-server was not completely removed
[09:53] <tobias_> Does anyone know
[09:54] <BWorld> At the other hand, If I tried to purge mysql-server-5.5 after purging mysqlcommon it was reporting that mysql-server-5.5 wasn't installed
[09:54] <tobias_> i dont understand where to mount my mountpoint so my phone and comp can communicate.
[09:54] <BWorld> great, right ? xD
[09:54] <guibog> \?
[09:54] <tobias_> hello?
[09:55] <guibog> trying irssi
[09:55] <tobias_> does no one want to help me cause im a noob, or am i just getting bad luck here.
[09:55] <blackshirt> bworld, i was wondering, why purging mysql-server was tricky hard ... I have experiences with this problem
[09:55] <gour> hello
[09:55] <tobias_> hi
[09:55] <cfhowlett> gour: greetings
[09:55] <gour> does ubuntu support xfce DE or one should use xubuntu?
[09:56] <llutz> gour: just install xubuntu-desktop package
[09:56] <blackshirt> gour, xubuntu was use xfce
[09:56] <ex0a> gour: if you install xubuntu-desktop you'll get a configured xfce, but you can install xfce manually if you really want
[09:56] <gour> atm i installed linux mint (xfce), but some people asking me why not ubuntu which might have more features and support
[09:56] <tobias_> blackshirt do you know whats going on with my situation?
[09:56] <aiFrantz> gour : yes.. just install the xubuntu package and you can choose the xfce session on startup
[09:56] <tobias_> ex0a?
[09:56] <ex0a> tobias_: ?
[09:57] <gour> ex0a: so there is xubuntu-desktop within ubuntu itself?
[09:57] <tobias_> I'm wondering if anyone knows anything about my situation?
[09:57] <llutz> gour: if you plan a fresh installation, go for xubuntu
[09:57] <blackshirt> gour, i don't think that
[09:57] <gour> what is the difference (in terms of features and support) between the two?
[09:57] <MomoDav> why don't you sell your iPhone and buy android instead :p
[09:57] <ex0a> gour: yes, from any ubuntu installation you can install xubuntu-desktop and get an xfce desktop, but if you're doing a new install, get xubuntu to begin with
[09:57] <cristian_c> Hi
[09:58] <tobias_> so is the reason anyone refuses to help me because i own an iphone?
[09:58] <MomoDav> or buy macbook, but it'll be more expensive :D
[09:58] <tobias_> dude my dad bought it for me for xmas.
[09:58] <cfhowlett> gour: both are official ubuntu distros and are supported by canonical
[09:58] <MomoDav> just kidding
[09:58] <BWorld> blackshirt: you have similiar problems where you get your logs look this: pastebin.com/MNJPeM53
[09:58] <gour> ex0a: i wonder what is the difference between the two if one uses xfce desktop and/or any pro/cons in ubuntu/mint?
[09:58] <tobias_> i have come here twice.. and no ones helping me.. id ont mean to complain but u guys just tell me iphone sucks...
[09:58] <tobias_> lol
[09:58] <tobias_> its not helpful
[09:58] <FloodBot1> tobias_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:58] <cristian_c> I've found that I can send commands to my irc client from a configuration file: perform.conf
[09:59] <llutz> tobias_: not helpful but true
[09:59] <cfhowlett> tobias_: not sucks.  not supported on ubuntu/linux.  by design.  please direct complaints to apple
[09:59] <cristian_c> for example: cmd = /join #ubuntu
[09:59] <ex0a> gour: mint is based off ubuntu so you probably wont notice much difference
[09:59] <tobias_> yeah but its possible to sync them.
[09:59] <tobias_> i mean as far as im reading online...
[09:59] <tobias_> am i wrong?
[09:59] <BWorld> tobias_: maybe you can install a virtualbox and run windows on it
[09:59] <ex0a> gour: i booted into mint 13 cinnamon (i have ubuntu running cinnamon as my main os) and it was so similar i just booted back into ubuntu
[09:59] <cristian_c> If I add this line to a particular server section, the command is executed
[09:59] <alsight> )
[10:00] <tobias_> bworld i should be able to do it easier then that.
[10:00] <MomoDav> thats what i was thinking, installing a virtual box but it kinda sucks
[10:00] <tobias_> i dont want to run windows i hate it.. it fucks up my comp
[10:00] <cfhowlett> tobias_: apple designed them to be difficult to backhack.  moreover, every ios update means more backward engineering with different levels of success.
[10:00] <cristian_c> I could launch a script in the same manner:
[10:00] <MomoDav> if you run an install in a vb it won't fuck your computer
[10:00] <MomoDav> ;)
[10:00] <BWorld> tobias_: yes, but if you read what all others are saying, it is not designed for it
[10:00] <cfhowlett> tobias_: that said, i believe version 7 of itunes can run in wine...
[10:00] <cristian_c> cmd = /exec -o ~/scriptname
[10:01] <tobias_> i cant really install any programs r now
[10:01] <MomoDav> >_>
[10:01] <tobias_> cause my software center crashes instantly
[10:01] <Tm_T> !ohmy | MomoDav
[10:01] <tobias_> thats the next issue i have to figure out after this
[10:01] <tobias_> i guess i can install it threw terminal thouhg
[10:01] <llutz> tobias_: it should be the first issue to fix
[10:01] <tobias_> well i want my music
[10:01] <cristian_c> I'd like to use this tecnique for use a personal quit message in irc
[10:01] <tobias_> my life is sucking ass wout music lol
[10:01] <MomoDav> run sudo apt-get update for starters
[10:02] <cristian_c> How can I do to get this?
[10:02] <tobias_> oh i have virtual box already installed
[10:03] <tobias_> i cant update anything either
[10:03] <MomoDav> what does it say ?
[10:03] <tobias_> for some reason im unable to ever update anything
[10:03] <tobias_> thats the third issue i need to resolve
[10:03] <MomoDav> piece of advice: reinstall ubuntu ;)
[10:03] <MomoDav> erase your disk and reinstall linux distrib
[10:04] <tobias_> who me?
[10:04] <MomoDav> of course you ! you've got too many problems on your computer
[10:04] <tobias_> i just installed ubuntu
[10:04] <MomoDav> how old is your pc ?
[10:04] <tobias_> its working a lot better then windows was lol
[10:05] <tobias_> about a year
[10:05] <tobias_> sony vpcea46fm
[10:05] <MomoDav> should work fine
[10:05] <tobias_> when i tried to sync iphone first time i f'ed up my software center somehow
[10:05] <tobias_> and i have never been able to install anything
[10:06] <tobias_> i mean
[10:06] <tobias_> update
[10:06] <tobias_> am having issues w virtual box too
[10:07] <boba88> #vbox
[10:07] <tobias_> Kernel driver not installed (rc=-1908)  The VirtualBox Linux kernel driver (vboxdrv) is either not loaded or there is a permission problem with /dev/vboxdrv. Please reinstall the kernel module by executing
[10:08] <llutz> tobias_: "sudo adduser $USER vboxusers" then logout and login again, run vbox then
[10:09] <tobias_> thanks
[10:09] <CrazyHorse18> hey.. is there someway i can get this permission system to work
[10:09] <CrazyHorse18> https://gist.github.com/ec3c70b664bd3581f9dd
[10:11] <alsight> who is from russia?
[10:11] <MonkeyDust> !ru
[10:12] <tobias_> still cant use vbox.
[10:12] <tobias_> says
[10:12] <tobias_> Failed to open a session for the virtual machine tobias. The virtual machine 'tobias' has terminated unexpectedly during startup with exit code 1.
[10:12] <alsight> thanks
[10:12] <tobias_> followed by the same message as before.
[10:12] <tobias_> Kernel driver not installed (rc=-1908)  The VirtualBox Linux kernel driver (vboxdrv) is either not loaded or there is a permission problem with /dev/vboxdrv. Please reinstall the kernel module by executing  '/etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup'  as root. If it is available in your distribution, you should install the DKMS package first. This package keeps track of Linux kernel changes and recompiles the vboxdrv kernel module if necessary.
[10:12] <llutz> tobias_: then run the command given by that message
[10:12] <brontosaurusrex> cli , ncurses vu-meter would be?
[10:13] <tobias_> how do i run it?
[10:13] <tobias_> on terminal?
[10:13] <llutz> tobias_: sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup
[10:13] <tobias_> thanks
[10:13] <Valtam> tobias_, do you have virtualbox-dkms installed
[10:13] <tobias_> no what i ust did just installed it i think
[10:14] <tobias_> nope it didnt work
[10:14] <tobias_> says
[10:14] <tobias_> * Stopping VirtualBox kernel modules                                    [ OK ]   * Uninstalling old VirtualBox DKMS kernel modules                       [ OK ]   * Trying to register the VirtualBox kernel modules using DKMS                    * Failed, trying without DKMS  * Recompiling VirtualBox kernel modules
[10:14] <FloodBot1> tobias_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:14] <angel56> tobias_: I think you need build-essentials as well
[10:14] <tobias_> how do i get build-essentials/
[10:15] <melvincv> tobias_: i remember seeing that error once... see if Virtualbox works now?
[10:15] <tobias_> does this mean it failed to download dkms?????? Trying to register the VirtualBox kernel modules using DKMS                    * Failed, trying without DKMS
[10:15] <Valtam> tobias_, sudo apt-get install virtualbox-dkms
[10:15] <tobias_> ok ill try vbox again
[10:15] <Valtam> then run sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup
[10:16] <tobias_> valtam Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package virtualbox-dkms
[10:16] <tobias_> it seems unable to locate package?
[10:16] <melvincv> tobias_: yes, please run it with sudo
[10:17] <tobias_> hmm i  did use sudo
[10:17] <MonkeyDust> same here    sudo: /etc/init.d/vboxdrv: command not found
[10:17] <tobias_> hmm i think it is working now (:
[10:17] <willwork4foo> Hi all. Does anyone know if it's possible to get Ubuntu to display the name of the currently-connected VPN config in my notification area?
[10:18] <melvincv> tobias_: :) yes, that error happened, but it worked.
[10:18] <tobias_> yeah its opened program now
[10:18] <tobias_> its telling me this
[10:18] <tobias_> ou have the Auto capture keyboard option turned on. This will cause the Virtual Machine to automatically capture the keyboard every time the VM window is activated and make it unavailable to other applications running on your host machine: when the keyboard is captured, all keystrokes (including system ones like Alt-Tab) will be directed to the VM. You can press the host key at any time to uncapture the keyboard and mouse (if it is 
[10:18] <Valtam> tick the box
[10:18] <Valtam> continue
[10:19] <llutz> melvincv: tobias_ that error only says that building the modules using dkms fails and it tries to compile them the old way
[10:19] <tobias_> VT-x/AMD-V hardware acceleration has been enabled, but is not operational. Your 64-bit guest will fail to detect a 64-bit CPU and will not be able to boot. Please ensure that you have enabled VT-x/AMD-V properly in the BIOS of your host computer.
[10:19] <dr_willis> now is the time to read the vbox manual. it seems to be working......
[10:19] <tobias_> now its saying that
[10:19] <Valtam> check if vt is on ib bios
[10:19] <Valtam> in*
[10:19] <llutz> tobias_: http://virtualbox.org/documentation
[10:19] <tobias_> whats ib bios
[10:19] <melvincv> tobias_: read it first, na? Read and try to understand the messages. That's normal.
[10:20] <tobias_> lluts link doesnt work
[10:20] <llutz> tobias_: http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Documentation
[10:20] <llutz> tobias_: more help in #vbox
[10:20] <Valtam> tobias_, /join #virtualbox
[10:20] <MonkeyDust> tobias_  delete 'documentation', then click documentation, be creative :)
[10:20] <melvincv> tobias_: ok, you may need to enable Secure Virtual Machine in the BIOS. Or Intel VT
[10:21] <tobias_> OKAy thanks for the help guys
[10:21] <tobias_> ill go there and see if they can help me further
[10:21] <MonkeyDust> tobias_  you're not thinking, you're just following instructions
[10:21] <Valtam> np
[10:21] <tobias_> but thanks again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[10:21] <tobias_> so much
[10:22] <tobias_> monkey this is all so new to me.
[10:22] <dr_willis> they will say to read the docs. ;-)
[10:22] <llutz> thinking is new? oops
[10:22] <tobias_> hmm do most people just grasp this stuff?
[10:23] <DarsVaeda> is there a way to save file selection dialogs sizes?
[10:23] <tobias_> Id like to see them install linux at an old folks home lol
[10:23] <dr_willis> wonder why vbix kernel module haad issues.
[10:23] <earlybirdd> anyone reccomend a good distro for a beginner-intermediate user
[10:23] <wols> earlybirdd: obviously: ubuntu
[10:23] <MonkeyDust> earlybirdd  try ubuntu
[10:23] <dr_willis> tobias_: my wife has no issues..
[10:23] <ola8395> hello , i installed gnome 3 by clicking on the apt link from gnome`s website and during installation i switched login manager , now i want to return to stock ubuntu 12.10 with just unity installed and default login manager , how can i do that ?
[10:24] <tobias_> She synced her iphone to her comp no issues?
[10:24] <ex0a> close
[10:24] <tobias_> shes pretty genius
[10:24] <ex0a> err
[10:24] <melvincv> tobias_: you only need to ask for support when there is an issue :) Till then, read what Virtualbox or any other program tells you. Will help you a lot :)
[10:24] <dr_willis> ola8395:  sudo dpkg-recofigure lightdm
[10:25] <tobias_> yeah
[10:26] <Xav_> Hello guys. I am fan on the font "Ubuntu" from Libreoffice. I want to send a *.odt document to someone who is using Microsoft office. Will he be able to read the document with the correct font?
[10:26] <ola8395> :dr_willis thx,  and how can i remove gnome which installed alot alot of packages through their apt link ?
[10:27] <tobias_> so is virtual box supposed to stop u from using ur mouse?
[10:27] <tobias_> and keys.
[10:27] <baskak> hi, while upgrading to 12.10 i lost my gnome classic/compiz settings. perhaps it has something to do with the gdm/lightdm question i encountered during upgrade, but it didn't make any sense to me
[10:27] <tobias_> im not really understanding what it is... i mean i run it and its just unabling me to use my mouse and keys.
[10:28] <melvincv> Xav_: Ubuntu font can be downloaded from http://font.ubuntu.com/
[10:28] <wols> Xav_: no. you can embed fonts into PDFs however. save from libreoffice as pdf and click the  "Embed Standard Fonts" checkbox
[10:28] <wols> tobias_: no it's not. but it needs drivers to make the mouse works seemlessly between host and guest OS
[10:29] <tobias_> it says FATAL: NO BOOTABLE MEDIUM FOUND! SYSTEM HALTED.
[10:29] <Xav_> @melvincv, @wols thanks!
[10:29] <llutz> tobias_: press host-key to release mouse/key. as written in the DOCUMENTATION
[10:29] <wols> tobias_: what guest OS do you want to run?
[10:29] <tobias_> iwols i guess windows.
[10:29] <willwork4foo> tobias_, please seriously - go and read through some documentation. This is becoming mildly annoying to read.
[10:29] <tobias_> i want to run itunes.
[10:30] <wols> tobias_: do you have a windows CD?
[10:30] <tobias_> Nope.
[10:30] <wols> tobias_: then you can't. go and buy one
[10:30] <tobias_> Damn all i want to do is sync my iphone to my comp.
[10:30] <tobias_> i cant run windows on my comp cause it crashes every 5 seconds.
[10:30] <llutz> layer8-problem
[10:31]  * melvincv sighs.
[10:31] <ola8395> plz help , whats the commands for removing gnome3 that i  installed from their website ?
[10:31] <wols> tobias_: then learn how to use rhythmbox or gtkpod
[10:31] <angel56> I was never able to get itunes running in a vm
[10:31] <Valtam> willwork4foo, a man went to the doctor and said, 'it hurts when I raise my arm like this' so the doctor said 'then dont raise your arm'
[10:31] <tobias_> I have both rythmbox and gtkpod but neither are working.
[10:31] <tobias_> Which is why i came here lol
[10:31] <wols> ola8395: what was the command when you installed it?
[10:31] <tobias_> but they said to just dl this program
[10:31] <willwork4foo> Valtam, point taken ;)
[10:31] <Valtam> :)
[10:31] <exaem> tobias_: Please do some Googling or at least try and research it for yourself...
[10:31] <ola8395> wols: i just clicked on the apt link from gnome3:s website
[10:31] <tobias_> dude i have been googling this for a week
[10:32] <wols> ola8395: which link exactly?
[10:32] <tobias_> before i even came in here.
[10:32] <exaem> No you haven't
[10:32] <tobias_> if you see my history on google you will see every page concerning syncing iphone to ubuntu highlighted.
[10:32] <ola8395> wols: http://apt.ubuntu.com/p/gnome
[10:32] <Valtam> tobias_, he mean vbox
[10:32] <aiFrantz> tobias_ I assume that you've already tried this http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-To-Sync-Your-iPhone-Device-in-Ubuntu-10-10-169608.shtml , did you?
[10:33] <tobias_> no cause i am using 12.4
[10:33] <Jeaton> would anyone be interested in helping me recover a partition?
[10:33] <tobias_> but i have read several websites on syncing it using rythmbox
[10:33] <wols> tobias_: thinking is NOT optional.
[10:34] <MonkeyDust> !recover > Jeaton read this first
[10:34] <wols> Jeaton: state your actual problem and don't waste your and our time with useless questions
[10:34] <exaem> tobias_: http://wiki.debian.org/iPhone read through this, attempt, if it doesn' work try something else...
[10:34] <gordonjcp> I don't get why people think Ubuntu is supposed to be easier to use than a chew toy
[10:35] <llutz> gordonjcp: because its advertised like that
[10:35] <exaem> gordonjcp: because people don't want to put any effort in and went to get everything out
[10:36] <wols> llutz: good point unfortunately
[10:36] <melvincv> tobias_: http://www.ubuntuka.com/itunes-ubuntu-linux/
[10:36] <tobias_> what does this mean?
[10:36] <tobias_> E: Package 'aptitude' has no installation candidate
[10:36] <ola8395> wols: is their a solution for removing gnome i installed from the link http://apt.ubuntu.com/p/gnome
[10:36] <Jeaton> something happened when I was upgrading, it rebooted and went to the boot screen but it will not load grub
[10:36] <llutz> tobias_: sudo apt-get update
[10:36] <Guest85866> guys i am following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CanonCaptDrv190 guide to install drivers for my canon lbp 2900 printer , when i follow it i get "DEPENDENCY NOT SATISFIABLE, cndrvcups-common (>=2.40)  , how do i resolve this ?
[10:37] <tobias_> E: Package 'aptitude' has no installation candidate tobias@Edward-VPCEA46FM:~$ sudo apt-get update E: Malformed line 64 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse) E: The list of sources could not be read.
[10:37] <wols> ola8395: sure. uninstall whatever packages you installed. I dunno how a apt:// handler would work in a browser. the idea alone is so stupid it defies words imho
[10:37] <Jeaton> i open up gparted and the filesystem is now unknown
[10:37] <xsl> can someone help i get this error wen starting lxc container manually type=1400 audit(1351593348.376:10): apparmor="DENIED" operation="mount" info="failed flags match" error=-13 parent=17347 profile="lxc-container-default" name="/var/lib/ureadahead/debugfs/" pid=17362 comm="ureadahead" fstype="debugfs" srcname="none" flags="rw"
[10:37] <melvincv> tobias_: my suggestion is to install the windows emulator WINE and then run the itunes setup for windows. Not guaranteed to work though...
[10:37] <llutz> tobias_: fix /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:37] <wols> Jeaton: can you mount the filesystem from the live cd?
[10:37] <llutz> melvincv: from what i read here, itunes won't work properly in wine
[10:38] <gordonjcp> llutz: I wouldn't say it was advertised like that
[10:38] <gordonjcp> anyway, computers are for clever people
[10:38] <llutz> gordonjcp: it is
[10:38]  * melvincv wonders why itunes has been given a Bronze rating?
[10:38] <gordonjcp> if you're not prepared to use your brain a little...
[10:38] <MonkeyDust> most people are not
[10:38] <wols> gordonjcp: the main point of ubuntu is: it's easy! "Linux for the rest of us", etc. it is definitely advertised as such
[10:39] <willwork4foo> wols, there are always borderline cases.
[10:39] <ola8395> wols: i just wanted to try gnome and thought that it would be easy to remove it then with one click as it installs with one click , but i was apparantly wrong , my misstake
[10:39] <melvincv> which is why Windows is successful?
[10:40] <Guest85866> guys i am following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CanonCaptDrv190 guide to install drivers for my canon lbp 2900 printer , when i follow it i get "DEPENDENCY NOT SATISFIABLE, cndrvcups-common (>=2.40)  , how do i resolve this ?
[10:40] <wols> ola8395: apt-cache search gnome or dpkg -l |grep gnome.  there should be a gnome package you can uninstall I'd say
[10:40] <Jeaton> it tells me it cant find it in mtab or fstab
[10:40] <willwork4foo> melvincv, windows is successful because Microsoft has OEM agreements with almost every box vendor requiring them to ship hardware with windows preinstalled.
[10:41] <wols> Guest85866: what was the command you ran and what is the full output. use a pastebin
[10:41] <mogaj> how to paste code from browser to vi editor?
[10:41] <Guest85866> wols  thats just it - nothing else
[10:41] <somsip> mogaj: middle click, or SHIFT and middle click
[10:41] <wols> Guest85866: you did not read my question. do it again
[10:41] <Guest85866> wols i installed it using software center
[10:41] <willwork4foo> mogaj, don't forget to press "i" first in vi to go into insert mode...
[10:41] <wols> Guest85866: use a terminal to install then
[10:41] <mogaj> am using laptop .... there is no middle click
[10:41] <Guest85866> wols  sure
[10:42] <somsip> mogaj: both buttons together?
[10:42] <llutz> mogaj: two finger tap
[10:42] <aiFrantz> Guest85866 : just a hint... I installed cups in 2010 by compiling it from source. yes, a canon printer. since then, I use HP server because you do not need to install any drivers
[10:42] <tobias_> melvin ive tried to run itunes on wine
[10:43] <tobias_> it wont run
[10:43] <tobias_> it crashes.
[10:43] <chatman> !itunes
[10:43] <Jeaton> i dont know what im doing right now, im so out of touch not really using it in awhile
[10:43] <wols> Jeaton: which partition is the broken one?
[10:43] <Jeaton> how do I go about mounting sda5
[10:44] <CrazyHorse18> hey guys.. i'm trying to setup this ACL structure.. any idea on how i can actualy do it https://gist.github.com/ec3c70b664bd3581f9dd
[10:44] <wols> sudo mount /dev/sda /mnt/
[10:44] <wols> sudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt/
[10:44] <CrazyHorse18> i.e. who should own what.. and how i can implement those permissions
[10:44] <Jeaton> it ask what filesystem
[10:44] <Jeaton> under gparted, its unknown
[10:44] <wols> !permissions | CrazyHorse18
[10:44] <riktking> hi i need some help/advice, i have got a new hdd to put in my computer, but currently have 2 seperate hdd 1 for /home and 1 for everyting else. can anyone advise on how to do this? thanks
[10:45] <wols> CrazyHorse18: what this document describes aren't ACLs but normal,standard unix permissions
[10:45] <CrazyHorse18> did you even look at my gist?
[10:45] <wols> riktking: and your question is?
[10:45] <CrazyHorse18> i understand unix permissions fine
[10:45] <somsip> riktking: what will you store on the new drive?
[10:45] <chatman> riktking: what do you need advise on? you don't have enough sata ports?
[10:45] <aiFrantz> Guest85866 : you might wanna give this a try http://tainguyen.com/2011/06/03/how-to-install-linux-canon-printer-driver-in-ubuntu/
[10:45] <CrazyHorse18> but this is a bit more complex :-/
[10:45] <wols> CrazyHorse18: yes. " rwx for /apps and /repos
[10:46] <wols> are NOT acls. never was
[10:46] <riktking> wols: was going to put the whole system on it
[10:46] <wols> CrazyHorse18: no it's not
[10:46] <tobias_> i mean rythmbox asks me where i want to mount my iphone
[10:46] <tobias_> but i dont know where does anyone know where?
[10:46] <wols> riktking: you want to move your current system? use clonezilla for example
[10:46] <riktking> oh ok
[10:46] <Jeaton> so anyway of mounting a filesystem that is unknown
[10:46] <riktking> so if i use clonezilla i can copy the system onto the new hdd?
[10:46] <wols> tobias_: wherever you want. I'd put it in a directory under your home directory
[10:46] <Jeaton> i swear it was ext3, but it tells me bad filesystem
[10:47] <CrazyHorse18> wols: i don't see how i can make it rws for developers, parts of it rwx for my_app and read only and have it all read only for nginx
[10:47] <tobias_> wols so what does mounting mean?
[10:47] <wols> CrazyHorse18: groups
[10:47] <Guest85866> wols  - thanks   managed to install it with your method !
[10:47] <tobias_> ok thanks ill mount it to my home directory.
[10:47] <wols> tobias_: NO
[10:47] <wols> tobias_: not your home directory but a subdirectory you will create now of it
[10:48] <tobias_> what is the directory going to be used for?
[10:48] <tobias_> i am trying to understand what the directory is for.
[10:48] <wols> tobias_: all your ipod/iphone files will be in that directory. like when you put in a usb stick, you also mount it somewhere in your filesystem. this is the same
[10:48] <tobias_> what mounting does.
[10:48] <GNUbuntu> GNU
[10:48] <CrazyHorse18> wols: yes even with groups…  because you can only attach a single group to a directory/file as far as i can see
[10:49] <tobias_> id like my music files to all my in a folder on my desktop.
[10:49] <wols> CrazyHorse18: nginx is in the world category and only gets read only access
[10:49] <tobias_> so should i mount it to my desktop?
[10:49] <wols> tobias_: no. SUBFOLDER to your desktop
[10:49] <alsight> who know chat terminal for ubuntu server 12.04?
[10:49] <CrazyHorse18> wols: but then all the other users will get access
[10:49] <chatman> alsight: chat terminal?
[10:49] <tobias_> a subfolder would be like a folder called music on my desktop?
[10:50] <DJones> alsight: IRC chat? I'd suggest irssi for that
[10:50] <alsight> chatman: chat for terminal
[10:50] <chatman> alsight: irc? there's irssi and weechat
[10:51] <Jeaton> so if i format the filesystem to ext3, itll erase everything on that partition, right?
[10:51] <chatman> Jeaton: yes
[10:51] <Jeaton> anyway of recovering that filesystem?
[10:52] <chatman> Jeaton: its rather difficult if gparted doesn't recognise what partition type it is
[10:53] <slide> I have a drive that i've run the manufacturer test on and it said it was fine, and i've also run fsck (with -c for badblocks) on but any time i mount it, allmost immediately it gets remounted RO, here is the output when that happens http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Yfxs6MrE
[10:53] <wols> Jeaton: what happened when you tried to mount?
[10:54] <mogaj> thanks guys am able to use paste function
[10:54] <chatman> !yay | mogaj
[10:54] <Jeaton> it asked for a filesystem
[10:54] <wols> slide: fsck your filesystem
[10:54] <slide> wols, i did, immediately before mounting
[10:54] <wols> Jeaton: what filesystem was it before it broke?
[10:55] <melvincv> slide: how did you partition and format the drive? You sure it went without errors?
[10:55] <Jeaton> i said ext3 earlier, but seeing how sda1 is ext4
[10:55] <Jeaton> im thinking ext4
[10:55] <slide> yup, make a partition and then formatted it with ext4, it had been working for months w/out error
[10:55] <ripthejacker> anyone uses amarok in ubuntu?
[10:56] <tobias_> it will only let me mount to desktop and not a desktop sub folder and when i do it it says this error response Error initialising iPod: Can't write iPod database because of missing HashInfo file
[10:56] <GangBangNaTwojRy> #join marsy
[10:56] <wols> slide: it clearly detects a journal error
[10:58] <wols> Jeaton: did your upgrade at any time convert ext3 to ext4?
[10:58] <slide> ok just ran fsck, recovered journal, run fsck again, no errors, then mounted it again and got these messages, http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=zWscY8R6
[10:58] <ripthejacker> anyone uses amarok?
[10:58] <tobias_> what does Error initialising iPod: Can't write iPod database because of missing HashInfo file  mean?
[10:58] <tobias_> yeah i use it
[10:58] <wols> !anyone | ripthejacker
[10:58] <tobias_> not successfully
[10:58] <ripthejacker> how well does it integrate with unity?
[10:58] <Jeaton> it shouldn't have
[10:59] <ripthejacker> !poll
[11:01] <ripthejacker> tobias_: how ell does it work with unity?
[11:01] <slide> wols, ever seen those messages?
[11:01] <ripthejacker> *well/ell
[11:01] <tobias_> dude it doesnt work at all for me
[11:01] <tobias_> its a pos
[11:01] <tobias_> but i dont know anything so dont listen to me.
[11:01] <tobias_> nothing works for me
[11:01] <ripthejacker> lol ok
[11:02] <tobias_> are you new too?
[11:02] <offed> I want to install the latest kernel (3.7) on my Ubuntu 12.04.1 . I usually use 32 bit Ubuntu. But i am not sure which to download from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/daily/current/ . Can anyone help me please?
[11:02] <jrib> !kernel | offed
[11:02] <ripthejacker> tobias_: new to ubuntu used mandriva before (KDE)
[11:03] <gusta778> Hi. How can I get a more recent wmdockapp-dev on Ubuntu 12.10? It's 0.5 and I need 0.6. Any ideas?
[11:03] <chatman> !kubuntu | ripthejacker
[11:03] <jrib> offed: i386 is for 32-bit; amd64 is for 64-bit
[11:03] <Jeaton> now when I sudo fdisk -l it tells me partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary.
[11:03] <jrib> gusta778: find a ppa that provides it or build it yourself (/msg ubottu backport; /msg ubottu packaging)
[11:04] <ripthejacker> chatman: i'm familiar with kubuntu but i wanted a change from KDE though i'm not so much loving gnome
[11:04] <chatman> chatman: i haven't used amarok for years, you could try exaile
[11:05] <chatman> ripthejacker: ^
[11:06] <offed> jrib, I am on Core i7 Laptop...  is http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/daily/current/linux-headers-3.7.0-999_3.7.0-999.201210230406_all.deb for me ?
[11:06] <jrib> offed: I don't know what you want to do.  Why do you want this new kernel?
[11:07] <NeO[t]> join (#Billssie)
[11:07] <pokaz_cyce> #join billssie
[11:07] <NeO[t]> join billssie
[11:07] <GangBangNaTwojRy> elo
[11:07] <GangBangNaTwojRy> :d
[11:07] <NeO[t]> lol
[11:07] <pokaz_cyce> # join billssie
[11:07] <piter_> o co mu chodzi
[11:08] <jrib> piter_: /join #billssie
[11:08] <DJones> pokaz_cyce: NeO[t]: its "/join #channelname" without the quotes
[11:08] <piter_> czego on chce
[11:08] <offed> jrib, My Laptop get freeze if it is Idle .... Some guys said installing latest may fix the problem . So i searched about the 3.4 but seems the problem still exist(Not sure though)
[11:08] <piter_> ty neo
[11:08] <jrib> offed: did you find a bug at launchpad?
[11:09] <gusta778> jrib: I don't want to package. I just want IT. X(
[11:09] <chatman> !latest | gusta778
[11:09] <jrib> gusta778: the recommended way to get IT is to use a package
[11:10] <offed> jrib, Unspecified bug. Many peoples having the same problem. Let me search it again
[11:10] <gusta778> jrib: Package is too old, I can't build an application which is not in repos.
[11:11] <jrib> !compile > gusta778
[11:12] <gusta778> -.-"
[11:12] <gusta778> Not being helpful.
[11:12] <offed> jrib, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/993187 , http://askubuntu.com/questions/149073/why-does-ubuntu-12-04-freezes-completely
[11:14] <jrib> offed: most of those comments refer to a driver issue.  If you really want to try the newer kernel, then you don't want the "headers" package
[11:15] <offed> jrib, From #ubuntu-bug someone linked to me a troubleshooting and in that guide said, these may happened for kernel issue .... that is why
[11:15] <tobias_> what does this mean?
[11:15] <tobias_> E: Package 'aptitude' has no installation candidate
[11:16] <jrib> tobias_: it means there is no package for "aptitude".  Do a « sudo apt-get update » and see if it persists
[11:16] <tobias_> does anyone knwo what this means??? E: Package 'aptitude' has no installation candidate
[11:16] <gusta778> Will my package be of any use if I compile libdockapp 0.6?
[11:16] <offed> jrib, I am using DEll L502 ... The Wifi is not working really
[11:16] <gusta778> Or put together a package for that.
[11:16] <offed> jrib, what i need then ?
[11:16] <jrib> gusta778: what do you mean by "my package"?
[11:16] <tobias_> $ sudo apt-get update E: Malformed line 64 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse) E: The list of sources could not be read.
[11:16] <gusta778> jrib: If I make a .deb out of libdockapp.
[11:17] <jrib> gusta778: then you'll have a package of libdockapp
[11:17] <gusta778> jrib: Can I post it somewhere?
[11:17] <jrib> !ppa | gusta778
[11:17] <tobias_> okay what does that mean?
[11:17] <jrib> tobias_: What is not clear?
[11:17] <tobias_> sudo apt-get update E: Malformed line 64 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse) E: The list of sources could not be read.
[11:18] <jrib> tobias_: read line 64 in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:18] <tobias_> sudo /etc/apt/sources.list sudo: /etc/apt/sources.list: command not found
[11:18] <gusta778> jrib: Cool.
[11:18] <tobias_> how do i open it?
[11:18] <heroandtn3> tobias_: paste content of /etc/apt/sources.list to paste.ubuntu.com
[11:18] <allegrem> hi everyone
[11:18] <jrib> tobias_: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:18] <allegrem> i've got a strange problem with udev
[11:18] <tobias_> tnx
[11:18] <allegrem> i'd like to run a script when i plug in my usb key
[11:18] <allegrem> the script runs correctly when i laungh it as root manually
[11:19] <allegrem> but with udev, it fails to mount the key
[11:19] <allegrem> udev rule : ATTRS{idVendor}=="07ab", ATTRS{idProduct}=="fcab", RUN+="/home/pi/usb_plugged.sh", SYMLINK+="freecom_key"
[11:19] <allegrem> the line which fails in the script : mount -t vfat /dev/freecom_key /media/freecom_key
[11:19] <allegrem> the error in daemon.log :  mount: /dev/bus/usb/001/005 is not a block device
[11:19] <allegrem> (the last number changes each time)
[11:19] <allegrem> any idea ??
[11:19] <tobias_> line 64 says deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/jonabeck/ppa/Precise main
[11:19] <jrib> allegrem: use a pastebin next time please
[11:19] <tobias_> should it not say that?
[11:19] <jrib> tobias_: pastebin the entirety of your /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:20] <tobias_> u want me to paste all of my file into here?
[11:20] <allegrem> jrib: sorry :s
[11:20] <biggie0344> guys,, i have a major issue here with my vps. they have closed my vps for the outside and i can only use powerconsole but i still have a backup.tar file there how do you think i can retrieve it ?
[11:20] <chatman> !paste | tobias_
[11:21] <biggie0344> i've tried wget/scp/cat
[11:21] <tobias_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1317682/
[11:21] <Guest93697> I am in sudoers a/c, but when i am going to change the login picture of mine it is saying that the your are not allowed to do this enter superuser password, when i give root password it is also asking for superuser password and as superuser it is showing the another username that is in my system, its uid and gid is 1000, how can he   be superuser  and root doesnot doing anything
[11:22] <jrib> tobias_: that only has 54 lines
[11:22] <heroandtn3> :))
[11:23] <heroandtn3> $ gedit /etc/apt/sources.list then copy content of that file to paste.ubuntu.com
[11:23] <jrib> tobias_: (scroll down) probably
[11:23] <heroandtn3> then paste link here
[11:23] <tobias_> sorry i think this shud be better
[11:23] <tobias_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1317689/
[11:27] <tobias_> ?
[11:27] <tobias_> was that better.
[11:27] <jrib> tobias_: you need a space before "Precise"
[11:27] <jrib> tobias_: on line 64
[11:28] <tobias_> k i put a space and saved
[11:28] <jrib> tobias_: you should also probably get rid of all the old repositories you have
[11:28] <tobias_> what is that?
[11:29] <tobias_> how do i do that.
[11:29] <CestSebastian> hey guys, i know this is #ubuntu, but can someone tell me how to install the latest stable version of htop on a debian machine?
[11:29] <tobias_> it still says E: Package 'aptitude' has no installation candidate
[11:29] <chatman> CestSebastian: #debian
[11:29] <CestSebastian> thanks, chatman
[11:29] <BWorld> CestSebastian, did you try sudo apt-get install htop?
[11:30] <CestSebastian> BWorld, yes, it's an older version, and the filter functionality is missing
[11:31] <gusta778> I give up.
[11:31] <BWorld> CestSebastian: aah, hmm.. Then I think its best to ask in #debian because I dont know exactly how you can fix this, maybe update your sources list but I am only known of ubuntu.. sorry
[11:31] <tobias_> Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done Package aptitude is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source
[11:32] <tobias_> so how do i download apptitude?
[11:32] <jrib> tobias_: why do you want it?  You know aptitude and multi-arch is pretty broken in 12.04?
[11:32] <heroandtn3> tobias_: replace line 64 by "http://ppa.launchpad.net/jonabeck/ppa/ubuntu precise main"
[11:33] <chatman> tobias_: what is the output of lsb_release -sd
[11:33] <offed> jrib see here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=12045993&postcount=12 . The same thing happening for me
[11:33] <tobias_> i am trying to sync my iphone to my comp
[11:33] <tobias_> thats why i need it
[11:33] <tobias_> heroand put a space infront of it right?
[11:33] <jrib> offed: you can install the kernel using the deb on that page you linked to before.  Just grab the one that says "i386" and is not a headers package
[11:34] <jrib> tobias_: aptitude doesn't do that...
[11:34] <tobias_> well http://wiki.debian.org/iPhone
[11:34] <vincenzo_> ciao
[11:34] <tobias_> is telling me to do that.
[11:34] <jrib> tobias_: but I am curious why you can't find aptitude...  What does "apt-cache policy aptitude" do?
[11:34] <heroandtn3> sory, replace by "deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/jonabeck/ppa/ubuntu precise main" withou quotes
[11:34] <tobias_> im trying to do this
[11:34] <tobias_> aptitude install libimobiledevice-utils gvfs-backends gvfs-bin gvfs-fuse
[11:34] <jrib> tobias_: aptitude is just an alternative to apt-get
[11:34] <chatman> tobias_: that is for debian, you are using ubuntu
[11:34] <tobias_> so i can set up my iphone
[11:34] <tobias_> dog damnit
[11:34] <tobias_> lol
[11:34] <FloodBot1> tobias_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:34] <tobias_> someone linked me to it
[11:35] <heroandtn3> or remove that line then type:
[11:35] <tobias_> im so frustrated i have been literally trying to sync my ipod to my comp for 4 or 6 hours a day for 1 week.
[11:35] <tobias_> im like literally about to cry
[11:35] <tobias_> im going to take a 10 min break
[11:36] <heroandtn3> $ sudo add-apt-repository ppa:jonabeck/ppa
[11:36] <weeedar> hi, could anyone help me building something from git? i can't seem to find a tutorial :/
[11:36] <jrib> weeedar: just ask your actual question
[11:36] <jrib> !iphone | tobias_
[11:37] <weeedar> completely noob here jrib, i got the github-address, created a new directory, and pulled the whole git
[11:37] <tobias_> jrib i tried all of that
[11:37] <tobias_> none of it works
[11:37] <weeedar> i do see som .sh, but they don't work
[11:37] <jrib> weeedar: of what?
[11:37] <jrib> tobias_: ok
[11:37] <weeedar> https://github.com/xbmc/XBMCbuntu
[11:37] <tobias_> ):
[11:37] <tobias_> i mean
[11:37] <bazhang> !enter | tobias_
[11:37] <tobias_> i can tell u what isses those programs are having w me
[11:37] <jrib> weeedar: xbmc is in the repositories
[11:37] <offed> jrib, please don't mind for too many questions i am asking, just trying to make system more stable to work for long time. Can you suggest me please that which version i should install(3.4 or 3.7) ? I am sorry for not having experienced installing kernel
[11:38] <jrib> offed: try both :/
[11:38] <weeedar> yeah rigght jrib, but i am using xbmcbuntu, and accidently removed included packages that aren't available on any repo
[11:38] <jrib> offed: it shouldn't be an issue to install many kernel, you'll just get a list at the grub screen as to which on you want to boot
[11:38] <tobias_> okay so i open rythmbox and it says do u want to initialize your ipod?
[11:38] <jrib> weeedar: this channel only supports ubuntu
[11:38] <tobias_> but the model box is not highlighted so i cant change it
[11:38] <brontosaurusrex> weeedar: basically apt-get install build-essentials, them configure, make, make install, do some googling
[11:38] <tobias_> so basically i cant initliaze my ipod
[11:39] <melvincv> thanks to Apple's proprietary ways, they keep modifying the iPod file system access? :O
[11:39] <tobias_> it says Rhythmbox has detected a device that is probably an uninitialized or corrupted iPod. It must be initialized before Rhythmbox can use it, but this will destroy any song metadata already present. If you wish Rhythmbox to initialize the iPod, please fill in the information below. If the device is not an iPod, or you do not wish to initialize it, please click cancel.
[11:39] <jrib> tobias_: please, use a single line instead of pressing enter so much
[11:39] <tobias_> okay sorry.
[11:39] <jrib> tobias_: I don't know anything about ipods or iphones
[11:40] <tobias_> yeah i guess u have to mount them or something
[11:40] <weeedar> there are no configure oor make files brontosaurusrex
[11:41] <brontosaurusrex> you would need to read on that specific git then
[11:41] <melvincv> I guess even itunes says the same thing if you use an iPod on another system. You need to initialize it! Ridiculous amount of DRM and low bass sound. Which is why I don't use it.
[11:41] <brontosaurusrex> actually thats the 1st thing to do every time
[11:41] <weeedar> i already tried to do so, but there are no useful readme-files
[11:42] <brontosaurusrex> weeedar: then abort the mission
[11:42] <offed> jrib, thanks , i will try both
[11:42] <weeedar> :(
[11:42] <jrib> weeedar: you should ask in the support channel for your distribution
[11:42] <jack_> Hi, is there some kind of %appdata% folder like on Windows, or something similar on Linux?
[11:42] <_ikke_> I've installed redis on an ubuntu server. When I execute service redis-server start, it just waits indefinitely, while redis is just running (I can run redis-cli in another session)
[11:42] <jrib> jack_: what do you expect to be in it?
[11:42] <_ikke_> Anyone knows where it is waiting for?
[11:43] <brontosaurusrex> jack_: thats user preferences or what?
[11:43] <jack_> Yes, user preferences.
[11:43] <jrib> jack_: why do you want to know?
[11:43] <brontosaurusrex> jack_: enable show hiddne files in your home dir
[11:43] <jack_> I installed a game, and I only can find the executable file in /usr/bin. I need to access the data file to add a new game skin.
[11:43] <brontosaurusrex> hidden*
[11:43] <jrib> jack_: it pretty much depends on the game
[11:43] <brontosaurusrex> things thats starts with a dot, like .themes
[11:44] <jrib> jack_: there are conventions, but it could do whatever it wants
[11:44] <jack_> I know, I've looked but can't find one that looks correct.
[11:44] <jack_> (The folder...)
[11:44] <kushal_kumaran> jack_: run dpkg -L <package-name> to get a list of files installed by a package
[11:45] <jack_> kushal_kumaran: Thanks, that worked. :) I've found the correct place, thanks again.
[11:46] <gusta778> How can I see if I am in a sub-shell in an X11 Terminal?
[11:46] <wols> gusta778: from a script?
[11:46] <DoNotKNowCarlie> help. I just upgraded ubuntu 12.04 and I'm getting a blank screen after reboot. added nomodeset to my boot options but only 640x480 is supported.
[11:46] <gusta778> wols: From bash.
[11:47] <wols> gusta778: again, from a script or interactively?
[11:47] <gusta778> wols: Interactively.
[11:47] <gusta778> wols: Can I put that information in my prompt in some way?
[11:47] <earlybirdd> what is the best way for me to set up my servers? Run windows server then run debian in VMWARE? or should i just run pure ubuntu i want to get to know windows server too though....
[11:47] <wols> you check if you are in X,  if you have GUI. if you are: you're under a X terminal. duh
[11:47] <bazhang> earlybirdd, this is ubuntu support
[11:48] <gusta778> wols: So if I run bash in bash I can see that in X?
[11:49] <wols> gusta778: are you telling me you don't know if you look at X or a console? really?
[11:49] <chatman> gusta778: why do you want nested terminals?
[11:49] <gusta778> wols: Stop trolling. I'm talking about inside a bash shell in xterm.
[11:49] <bazhang> gusta778, no name calling here
[11:50] <gusta778> chatman: :sh in vim for instance. Then I can't remember if this or that terminal is running vim or not accidentally killing off terminals sometimes.
[11:52] <wols> gusta778: if you are in X, you always run inside a terminal... you can't run outside of one
[11:52] <gusta778> wols: Well. You have not understood what I am doing.
[11:52] <chatman> gusta778: surely you'd only use :sh in vim on certain occasions, you can't remember when you do that?
[11:52] <gusta778> chatman: Regularly, actually. And no. I might have many, too. Please try helping me instead.
[11:53] <lbart0> Hi guys, I am a complete novice at ubuntu and would really like some help setting up a second monitor?
[11:53] <gusta778> lbart0: Try plugging it in and reboot. Also: man xrandr
[11:53] <CrazyHorse18> with ACL do you still need a user and a group?
[11:53] <jrib> gusta778: I have something like that in my zsh prompt.  I don't know how you would do it in bash (try #bash).  Though you could probably just change the way your shell was called from vim and modify the prompt there somehow (like add "[vim]")
[11:54] <gusta778> That's true.
[11:54] <maxb> lbart0: If you're lucky it could be as simple as plugging it in and going to 'System Settings' > 'Displays'
[11:54] <gusta778> jrib: Thanks. That helped.
[11:54] <lbart0> I may be an ubuntu novice but not a computer novice haha :P I tried doing that, it does not register my monitor (Dell St2010
[11:56] <novato_br> hi
[11:57] <gusta778> jrib: Doesn't seem like anything I can actually do, though.
[11:58] <jrib> gusta778: looking at how my prompt works, zsh provides a prompt variable that inspects $SHLVL.  Though I do think modifying the way your shell is called from vim will be nicer since then you can associate the shell as a "vim shell" instead of a "Level X shell"
[11:59] <rickbol> can anyone recommend a mini-pci 802.11G/N wifi card that works well with 12.xx ubuntu. Neither bcm4311 nor intel 4965 work in my Dell D630
[11:59] <CrazyHorse18> how do you create a user which is not allowed to have shell acces?
[11:59] <CrazyHorse18> access*
[11:59] <funch> ubuntu 12.04, how to get into init 3, when i try recovery console, i cant login to root since login is bugged, will automaticly go from login to password after i enter 1 char to login
[11:59] <chatman> rickbol: intel usually works great
[12:00] <gusta778> jrib: Sure. Doesn't have to be running over X.
[12:00] <andygraybeal_> i have ubuntu server installed.  i want to install ubuntu-desktop meta package, but i don't want it to include 'network-manager' how do i do this at the command prompt?
[12:00] <gusta778> Putting $SHLVL in PS1 was easy. Thx.
[12:00] <andygraybeal_> i'm in 12.04
[12:01] <gusta778> 1;gustav@gustav-P15xEMx:~$ bash
[12:01] <gusta778> 2;gustav@gustav-P15xEMx:~$
[12:02] <lbart0> I really can't find a way to get my second monitor to work... It works on my windows installation ... i tried your previous suggestion to no avail
[12:02] <JonJ> CrazyHorse18:  set shell to /bin/false in /etc/passwd
[12:02] <rickbol> chatman: there are some quite old bugs (regressions) I think I'm hitting on the 4965. Then again...
[12:03] <rickbol> I replaced the bcm4311 (stock dell) with the intel 4965 (not an official dell, but the 4965 was an option for the dell D630).
[12:04] <rickbol> how picky will a laptop be regarding the card stuffed into the mini-pci slot?
[12:05] <itai_michaelson> hi, i formatted an external hard drive as NTFS and put some files on it, but now neither XP nor OSX can see it, but Ubuntu sees it fine , what can i do ?
[12:05] <CrazyHorse18> thanks jonj :)
[12:05] <chatman> rickbol: a mini-pci slot is for mini-pci devices, no matter what laptop
[12:06] <JonJ> CrazyHorse18: No problem :)
[12:07] <rickbol> I have an HP Mini with a bcm4322 that works great on 12.04 (ubuntustudio). Was thinking of trying one in the Dell D630.
[12:07] <Guest22893> I have a remote system connected via ftp - I did this by PLACES and CONNECT TO SERVER - works great for graphical interface  - how do I see that system from the command line though
[12:07] <gusta778> lbart0: Try xrandr -q and post the results.
[12:07] <gusta778> lbart0: With everything plugged in.
[12:08] <lbart0> gusta778:i assume yu mean try in the terminal?
[12:08] <gusta778> lbart0: Yes.
[12:09] <lbart0> gusta778: luke@ubuntu:~$ xrandr -q
[12:09] <lbart0> Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1366 x 768, maximum 4096 x 4096
[12:09] <lbart0> LVDS1 connected 1366x768+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 270mm x 150mm
[12:09] <lbart0>    1366x768       60.0*+
[12:09] <lbart0>    1360x768       59.8     60.0
[12:09] <lbart0>    1024x768       60.0
[12:09] <lbart0>    800x600        60.3     56.2
[12:09] <FloodBot1> lbart0: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:11] <lbart0> gusta778: Did my message send because it told me not to spam...
[12:11] <chatman> lbart0: use a pastebin
[12:12] <lbart0> chatman: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1317767/
[12:14] <itai_michaelson> question - if change a partition system id on an external hard drive and make a mistake , can it end up being unreadable ?
[12:20] <LaRueGT> hi there, im getting a blank desktop when I log into 12.10 this morning, just my wallpaper, I can right click to create a new folder and navigate the file system as well, but the rest of the interface isnt showing up. this started happening after an update
[12:22] <cnf> hmm
[12:22] <cnf> empathy refuses to obey my natural scrolling
[12:29] <LaRueGT> meh, im just gonna reinstall the thing
[12:33] <torbjorn> do I need to take action to prevent network-manager from setting network settings? I want to configure using the interfaces file
[12:33] <torbjorn> and also, how do I configure a bridged interface, ie setup bridge and add interfaces, set them up etc.
[12:33] <wols> then do it. nm won't touch interfaces configured in /etc/network/interfaces
[12:34] <torbjorn> nice, thanks
[12:39] <torbjorn> do I need two sections for eth0 in interfaces if want to configure both ip4 and ip6 settings?
[12:40] <vitimiti> (·_·)/
[12:40] <torbjorn> ie auto eth0\niface eth0 inet and then later... auto eth0\niface eth0 inet6 etc..
[12:40] <Bauer1> guys, I just did an upgrade from Ubuntu 10.04 LTS to 12, and after the required restart, ssh is not responding
[12:40] <Bauer1> what do you suggest I do now?
[12:43] <_cronus_> Bauer1, try ssh to the machine from another terminal
[12:45] <Bauer1> _cronus_ its a vps, trying to figure out how to get console now :)
[12:47] <Laiiscool> HI
[12:48] <dr_willis> mooo
[12:49] <jackw> i want to find a music player can control the player time
[12:49] <jackw> i want to find a music player can control the playing time
[12:49] <jackw> i want to skip the intro and end of audiobook
[12:50] <jackw> is there anything can help me?
[12:50] <Blue1> i don;t know of any such software
[12:50] <Gnea> jackw: what are you using now?
[12:50] <jackw> i have almost every player
[12:50] <Gnea> jackw: I'm asking for something specific, not general.
[12:51] <Blue1> fwiw I using guaydeque -- seems the best out there, imho
[12:51] <lotuspsychje> !info cowsay dr_willis
[12:51] <dr_willis> with videos. u
[12:51] <Bauer1> _cronus_: I am in through the hardware node, the ifconfig gives me empty list of interfaces, must be the why
[12:51] <Gnea> !pm | jackw
[12:51] <lotuspsychje> !info cowsay | dr_willis
[12:51] <dr_willis> wurh videso i setup vlc with a hotket
[12:51] <Bauer1> how do I restore the network interfaces?
[12:52] <Gnea> jackw: also, repeating what you said in the channel in PM will only frustrate you more. Please, just tell us which program names you're using. Thanks.
[12:52] <dr_willis> hotkey to skip 2min... thats similar to what you are saying
[12:52] <jackw> audaious
[12:52] <kurs> kurs
[12:52] <_cronus_> Bauer1, do you host the vps yourself? if not it's better to contact your provider
[12:53] <Gnea> jackw: okay, so basically you want to be able to take each audiobook and strip the beginning and end off of each?
[12:53] <Bauer1> _cronus_: well I work at the provider, but no one else is able to give me advanced help with linux atm
[12:53] <jackw> yes indeed
[12:53] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje:  try    fortune | cowsay        ;-)
[12:53] <simplew> can anyone run "kdesudo dolphin" and tell me if double clicking in a text file runs kwrite ?
[12:54] <Bauer1> _cronus_ any ideas how to redo the network adapters from inside the vps? without restorting to the hardware node
[12:55] <Gnea> jackw: you'd have to do it manually, using an audio editor, like audacity, for each file.  Otherwise, you'd have to slide the bar in audacious to skip the beginning and then the 'next' button to skip to the next file when done.
[12:55] <_cronus_> Bauer1, if you have the network information, you can populate /etc/network/interfaces
[12:55] <_cronus_> Bauer1, and /etc/resolv.conf
[12:56] <jackw> ok you do not know so it has to be done manually who are you? god? Fuck off
[12:56] <Gnea> !attitude | jackhill
[12:56] <Gnea> oops
[12:56] <torbjorn> I can't seem to prevent a bridge interface br0 to autoconfigure an ipv6 address, are there keywords I can add to prevent this?
[12:56] <belgianguy> I've got quite a serious problem with 12.10
[12:57] <Gnea> jackhill: sorry, wrong target
[12:57] <torbjorn> I changed it with sysctl on all to set autoconf=0 but br0 still gets the address
[12:57] <torbjorn> it also comes back if I flush it and restart networking
[12:57] <belgianguy> whenever I leave the pc to sit there for a while
[12:57] <akis> why i am getting the message that my trash is in its maximum size althought is empty? i deleted accidentaly the trash and when i restore it i am getting this message every time i am trying to delete something. any idea?
[12:57] <belgianguy> the screen will turn blank with no way of turning it back
[12:57] <belgianguy> and my other monitor will display vertical stripes in red or white against a black background
[12:58] <belgianguy> my idea is that it's trying to load the lockscreen or screensaver
[12:58] <belgianguy> but fails and hangs
[12:58] <Bauer1> hmm _cronus_, interfaces seems to be populated, so why the ifconfig list empty?
[12:58] <belgianguy> I was playing a movie just now, and when it happened, the sound kept playing
[12:58] <belgianguy> so I guess it's to do with graphics then?
[12:59] <_cronus_> Bauer1, try start networking
[12:59] <slide> Does anyone know how to change the mail sender of smartd?
[13:00] <Bauer1> _cronus_, that gives me networking stop/waiting, and afterwards ifconfig gives a list properly, but connection to sshd is still refused
[13:00] <izzi> my mod_rewrite is sending websites to ya.ru when the are enable it in joomla with SEF for example, I disabble the mod_rewrite but the problem still exist, where can I find a sollution?
[13:01] <_cronus_> Bauer1, start ssh
[13:01] <belgianguy> perhaps an easir question, is there a way to disable Ubuntu from activating something after it has been idle for x seconds?
[13:01] <offed> I am trying to customize Ubuntu Live CD and following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization . But It is asking for username and passwd when i am testing the ISO (ubuntu:<blank> does not work). Also i don't see the "Ubuntu" user on /etc/passwd.
[13:01] <Bauer1> _cronus_, service sshd start gives me sshd: unrecognized service
[13:01] <_cronus_> Bauer1, *ssh
[13:02] <ladkiwi> hello
[13:02] <Bauer1> thanks _cronus_!!! works now, how do I fix it permanently so networking is always started, and sshd as well?
[13:02] <Bauer1> why did it happen at all?
[13:02] <dr_willis> howdy
[13:02] <Gnea> how how howdy
[13:02] <pax> hi
[13:02] <ladkiwi> Is it possible to use deja-dup backup facilities with lubuntu ?
[13:03] <Guest1513> ciao
[13:03] <_cronus_> Bauer1, it should start by default. maybe you don't have upstart installed
[13:03] <Gnea> ladkiwi: if you open a terminal and type this:  apt-cache search deja   <- any results for deja-dup?
[13:04] <Bauer1> _cronus_: upstart is already the newest version.
[13:04] <ladkiwi> Gnea, yes it exists in synaptic
[13:04] <Gnea> ladkiwi: okay, you should be able to install it and use it just fine then
[13:04] <Guest1513> ciao
[13:05] <Guest1513> !list
[13:05] <Bauer1> also, how do I know upgrade was successful? cat /etc/issue still says 10.10
[13:05] <Bauer1> as does the welcome screen
[13:05] <belgianguy> what is the default behaviour after Ubuntu has been idle for some minutes?
[13:05] <belgianguy> screen turn off?
[13:05] <Gnea> belgianguy: usually
[13:06] <belgianguy> Gnea: could that somehow cause fglrx-updates to crash?
[13:06] <belgianguy> as I've had it a couple of times already
[13:06] <lazy756> Hello everyone, I installed ubuntu Precise, but when i update repositories or install compizconfig-settings manager, i get error 404 Not Found
[13:06] <belgianguy> (fglrx-updates is the AMD ATI driver)
[13:06] <Gnea> belgianguy: not sure, I don't use ATI-based video cards so never had that problem...
[13:06] <tW4r> Hello, could anyobe help me with ubuntu 12.04 installation>
[13:06] <tW4r> ubunyu 12.10*
[13:06] <Gnea> tW4r: only if you explain what the problem is :)
[13:07] <ladkiwi> Gnea, it exists some better tools in lubuntu ? Actually with unity and deja-dup, you can get an old version of a file by a right clic on in the directory where the file is/was. It is realy easy to use
[13:07] <belgianguy> Gnea: ah, nm then, thx though :)
[13:07] <Gnea> belgianguy: curious, though, why do you think it would be a fault of the video driver?  have you tried installing a vesa driver and using that?
[13:07] <belgianguy> Gnea, the sound kept playing and it just all happens in a flash
[13:07] <torbjorn> I cannot seem to configure both static ipv4 and ipv6 addresses.. it seems to only read the ipv4 address from the interfaces file, is there somethieng extra required?
[13:08] <belgianguy> and there's no way out of it
[13:08] <tW4r> I explained my problem here, you still answer on IRC, http://askubuntu.com/questions/209591/ubuntu-12-10-installl-no-video-signal\
[13:08] <Gnea> ladkiwi: ubuntu = xubuntu = kubuntu = lubuntu, they all use the exact same package files
[13:08] <Gnea> ladkiwi: so if you have ubuntu 12.10 installed on one machine and lubuntu 12.10 on another machine, and if you install deja-dup on both, you're installing the same program version on both systems
[13:09] <belgianguy> Gnea: I'm not so keen on vesa, I'd rather figure out why this is happening :)
[13:09] <belgianguy> is there a graphics driver specific error log?
[13:09] <belgianguy> or a system error log?
[13:09] <belgianguy> I've asked this before, but /var/log is _huge_
[13:10] <Gnea> belgianguy: well, see, that's why I suggested using the vesa driver, so try to figure out why it's happening - if it doesn't occur with vesa, then the problem is probably with the fglrx driver. if it does occur with vesa, then fglrx wouldn't be the problem. ;)
[13:10] <Gnea> belgianguy: /var/log/Xorg.0.log and ~/.xsession-errors are what I'd look at
[13:11] <belgianguy> ah, will do that, thanks Gnea
[13:11] <Gnea> cheers
[13:11] <ArchOpenBox> Any way to load Cinnamon on Ubuntu?
[13:12] <Gnea> ArchOpenBox: I believe there is a PPA for that
[13:12] <tobias_> Hey guys terminal says my .list line 3 is wrong does anyone know what i shoul edit it to?? line 3 says this "deb-src"
[13:13] <Gnea> tobias_: makes sense, having no url after 'deb-src' would make it incomplete. just delete that whole line.
[13:13] <tobias_> thanks
[13:13] <Gnea> cheers
[13:14] <belgianguy> hmm, does compiz handle the screensaver stuff?
[13:14] <tobias_> what does this mean?
[13:14] <tobias_> E: Type 'http://ppa.launchpad.net/jonabeck/ppa/ubuntu' is not known on line 4 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list E: The list of sources could not be read.
[13:15] <Bauer1> one more question pls: how do I modify the hostname of the machine? this: root@vps-1027969-3335 to something more human rememeberable
[13:15] <belgianguy> Xorg.0.log didn't have anything
[13:15] <tobias_> line 4 is "http://ppa.launchpad.net/jonabeck/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main"
[13:15] <belgianguy> but .xsession-errors is full of warnings and pixmap binding errors
[13:15] <Gnea> belgianguy: do you use screen?
[13:15] <belgianguy> Gnea: no idea, can you elaborate?
[13:16] <tobias_> belgianguy http://www.tech-recipes.com/rx/2732/ubuntu_how_to_change_computer_name/
[13:16] <Gnea> belgianguy: it's a terminal program that emulates a terminal and allows you to open many terminals within it. if the xterm or whatever controlling terminal gets shutdown but the system is still running, you can regain control of that screen session, so anything you had typed and/or displayed in those terminals remains intact.
[13:16] <belgianguy> tobias_: do you mean Bauer1 ?
[13:17] <tobias_> didnt u ask how to change ur computer name?
[13:17] <tobias_> oh whoever asked that.
[13:17] <FireStorms> Hi, with the intro of USB 3.0 I was wondering if using an external memory stick could be viable RAM solution then I came across this http://www.techradar.com/news/computing-components/best-ram-10-memory-kits-reviewed-and-rated-1085281 is this BS, would Ubutnu be compatible?
[13:17] <_cronus_> Bauer1, edit /etc/hostname and add your hostname there. then edit /etc/hosts to set ip and domain and finally service hostname restart
[13:17] <belgianguy> Gnea: oh, no, I don't use that
[13:18] <belgianguy> Gnea: but even Ctrl + Alt + F1 didn't work anymore
[13:18] <belgianguy> I was locked out
[13:18] <tobias_> does anyone know whats wrong with this line??? http://ppa.launchpad.net/jonabeck/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main
[13:18] <belgianguy> perhaps I should check whether I can connect (ssh?) from the outside
[13:18] <Gnea> belgianguy: okay, I like to use it in instances like this, that way I can tail -f /var/log/Xorg.0.log  and if the X window session were to bottom out, I could ctrl-alt-f1 or ssh in and recapture that session to see what happened
[13:19] <tobias_> so shud i just delete all the lines from the sources.list that terminal has an issue with?
[13:19] <tobias_> or is that dangerous?
[13:19] <Gnea> tobias_: all lines need to start with deb or deb-src
[13:19] <fulcan> broadcom 4313 no wireless extensions found. whats the trick to getting it to work?
[13:20] <tobias_> so i ust put deb in front of them and it will work itself out/
[13:20] <Gnea> tobias_: it might. try it. :)
[13:20] <tobias_> thanks gnea
[13:20] <belgianguy> Gnea: and what is the package called?
[13:20] <Gnea> belgianguy: screen
[13:21] <belgianguy> ah, I seem to already have it
[13:21] <belgianguy> odd
[13:21] <Gnea> awesome
[13:21] <Gnea> belgianguy: well, you can read a tutorial on it later - for now, just start it with 'screen' in one terminal.... in another terminal, type this AFTER you've started it: screen -A -R -DD
[13:21] <Gnea> belgianguy: it will give you an idea of how it works
[13:21] <habstinat> I have Ubuntu Linux 12.10 recently installed. When I complete a game (e.g. Mahjongg/Difficult) it displays an empty scores list, and says "Your score didn't make the top ten.". This seems to be a long-standing problem, but I haven't seen a solution anywhere. Does anyone know what can cause this, and how to fix it ? If I do 'ls -l /var/games' I see this for the scores file: -rw-rw-rw- 1 root games 0 Oct 17 16.00 /var/games/mahjong
[13:22] <tobias_> its still saying line 8 is malformed  which looks like this deb Read more: How to Connect an iPhone to Ubuntu | eHow.com http:// www.ehow.com/how_7374987_connect-iphone-ubuntu.html#ixzz2AmqPE0QT
[13:23] <Gnea> tobias_: try commenting it out with a #
[13:23] <belgianguy> Gnea: I get "There are several suitable screens on"
[13:23] <Gnea> belgianguy: oh dear....
[13:23] <Bauer1> _cronus_: I get restart: Unknown instance:
[13:23] <Gnea> belgianguy: the idea is usually to just have one running instance
[13:23] <tobias_> thanks that worked now im on line 11 thanks though lol
[13:24] <_cronus_> Bauer1, that's normal. try hostname and hostname -f to see if everything is ok
[13:24] <belgianguy> Gnea: one is Attached, one is Detached
[13:24] <Peanut> Hi folks - I've got a system where on upgrading to 12.10, grub failed to install. I've got it booted in rescue mode, but the rescue scripts won't recognise the dmraid partition: I can mount it from the command line, but cannot make it run a shell with the root partition on hard disk as root. Any hints on how to get a proper shell on the root in this case?
[13:24] <Gnea> belgianguy: okay, it might give an ID tag for the detached one...?
[13:24] <belgianguy> and do I need to push Space or Return in screen, as I now just see its license
[13:24] <Gnea> belgianguy: yeah, just press Return
[13:25] <Gnea> belgianguy: the license is basically a 'welcome screen'
[13:25] <Bauer1> _cronus_ still showing the old one and also noticed /etc/hosts has several hosts separated by space
[13:25] <belgianguy> Gnea: ah, I see, thanks
[13:25] <belgianguy> Gnea: I see 8362.pts-0.name-laptop
[13:25] <belgianguy> for detached
[13:25] <tobias_> wow finally worked thanks so much gnea!
[13:25] <Gnea> tobias_: cheers :D
[13:26] <tobias_> been trying to get that to work for a week!
[13:26] <cnf> hmm, suggestions for a good msn/google talk client?
[13:26] <Gnea> tobias_: open a new terminal and type this:  screen -r 8362.pts-0.name-laptop
[13:26] <Gnea> oops
[13:26] <belgianguy> Gnea: that's for me I presume :)
[13:26] <Gnea> belgianguy: ^^^
[13:26] <Gnea> yes... I need more coffee ^_^
[13:26] <_cronus_> Bauer1, you could use man hosts to see the format of /etc/hosts file.
[13:27] <banister_> hi, im trying to  install libssl-dev but i just get errors about not findingthe host
[13:27] <tobias_> k im installing screen.
[13:27] <Gnea> tobias_: noooooooo, ignore what I said, I meant it for belgianguy!
[13:27] <tobias_> oh doh
[13:27] <_cronus_> Bauer1, what you want is a line <your ip> servername.domain servername
[13:27] <Gnea> sorry
[13:27] <tobias_> is it ok if i installed it? lol
[13:27] <DJones> cnf: I use either Empathy or Pidgin for msn & googletalk
[13:27] <Bauer1> _cronus_ thats ok I dont mind the extra hosts, but I want to change the name of the machine at the command prompt.. tahts all
[13:27] <banister_> here: https://gist.github.com/a12db04d89b71dad0efe
[13:28] <Gnea> tobias_: it's okay if you do, it won't hurt anything, but it won't help your present situation lol
[13:28] <_cronus_> Bauer1, where servername is the name is the name you have set in /etc/hostname
[13:28] <cloud__> hello there
[13:28] <Volatile> I accidentally my whole windows partition boot record. What do?
[13:28] <Gnea> Volatile: testdisk
[13:28] <Bauer1> ahhhh LOL _cronus_ I assumed I could just add hosts separated by space :D
[13:28] <belgianguy> Gnea: I ran it in the screen terminal first, :(
[13:29] <banister_> anyone know why i cant install libssl-dev ? it's driving me nuts!! https://gist.github.com/a12db04d89b71dad0efe
[13:29]  * Volatile installs strange package
[13:29] <cloud__> hello, i need a hint about how to partition my HD
[13:29] <Gnea> belgianguy: lol.... okay, did it break anything or just complain?
[13:29] <belgianguy> now I ran it in the correct one, and it says no screen to be resumed
[13:29] <belgianguy> both are attached now it seems
[13:29] <Gnea> !partition | cloud__
[13:29] <Peanut> banister_: have you done an 'apt-get update' first?
[13:29] <Volatile> Gnea: thanks, will check it out
[13:29] <belgianguy> (if I run the screen -A -R -DD) command
[13:30] <Gnea> Volatile: also, http://ubuntu-rescue-remix.org/node/57
[13:30] <Bauer1> _cronus_ so I modified like you said and in the manpage example: 192.168.1.10    foo.mydomain.org       foo while foo is machine name
[13:30] <Gnea> belgianguy: okay, that sounds right
[13:30] <dean_> Hi all do you know if there is an android irc?
[13:31] <simplepro> How do i make a music cd from a collection of mp3s
[13:31] <belgianguy> dean_: #android
[13:31] <Bauer1> _cronus_ but after service hostname restart, it still shows the full  foo.mydomain.org as results for hostname command, and command prompt still shows foo
[13:31] <cloud__> i already read the guides, but still i have a question about disk partitioning
[13:31] <Gnea> belgianguy: now, you should quit one of them, just press ctrl-d until it exits
[13:31] <dean_> #android :Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services
[13:31] <belgianguy> Gnea: in an active terminal?
[13:31] <belgianguy> dean_: look up NickServ
[13:31] <belgianguy> and register your account
[13:31] <Gnea> belgianguy: yes, with screen already running in it
[13:32] <dean_> belgianguy: How do I do that?
[13:32] <DJones> !register | dean_ Some channels require a registered nickname to be able to enter the channel
[13:32] <flexm1> cloud_:Firstly you need to make the main partition. Secondly you need to make the swap partition. Usually 2000 MB are enough.
[13:32] <_cronus_> Bauer1, relogin to the machine and it will show you the new domain
[13:32] <belgianguy> Gnea: it said "Screen is terminating"
[13:33] <Bauer1> _cronus_: just tried - no such luck hehe
[13:33] <belgianguy> and now all but one are closed
[13:33] <Gnea> belgianguy: awesome
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> cloud__: how much RAM does the system have?
[13:33] <cloud__> ActionParsnip: , 2GB
[13:33] <Gnea> belgianguy: okay, go back to that one screen session and type: tail -f /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> cloud__: the 2200Mb will give you enough to use and to enable hibernate etc
[13:34] <cloud__> ActionParsnip: i have a 160 GB hard drive. it has already 2 partitions: one for windows, and one for data
[13:34] <Gnea> belgianguy: then try to do something to reproduce your original problem... if it bottoms out, see if you can screen -A -R -DD from the ssh session
[13:35] <belgianguy> Gnea: ah, I think I get it, thanks
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> cloud__: thats fine, you can make an extended partition then install Ubuntu to logical partitions as you want:)
[13:35] <Gnea> belgianguy: cheers
[13:35] <neohasreturned> belgianguy: I am trying to register but struggling?
[13:35] <cloud__> but what should the order be? WIN, data , Ubuntu?
[13:35] <mneptok> neohasreturned: ask for help in #Freenode
[13:36] <cloud__> ActionParsnip: but what should the order be? WIN, data , Ubuntu?
[13:36] <neohasreturned> mneptok: Thanks
[13:36] <belgianguy> what mneptok said :)
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> cloud__: yes
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> cloud__: you can have 4 primary partitions, so you can have Win, Data, Ubuntu, Swap
[13:37] <cloud__> ok
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> cloud__: depends if your system has a hidden recovery partition
[13:37] <cloud__> it's the first time, so you know
[13:37] <_cronus_> Bauer1, just to make sure i understand. you have foo in /etc/hosts, <ip> foo.example.org foo to /etc/hosts. restarted hostname and you get foo as output from hostname. is this right?
[13:37] <cloud__> ActionParsnip: no, it doesnìt have recovery partitions
[13:38] <cloud__> ActionParsnip: how big should the ubuntu partitioon be?
[13:39] <cloud__> ActionParsnip: i mean, to work without problems
[13:39] <Bauer1> _cronus_: close, I also have the line: 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost , and after restarting hostname I get foo.example.org as output from hostname, not food
[13:39] <Bauer1> _cronus_: and the prompt in new session is still root@vps-1027969-3335:~#
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> cloud__: are you having a separate partition for /home    or just one big one for all of ubuntu?
[13:40] <manzoor> hello friends
[13:40] <cloud__> ActionParsnip: one big for everything
[13:40] <Toph2> ActionParsnip,,, what is the advantage of a primary partition over an extended/logical one?
[13:40] <cloud__> ActionParsnip: one big for everything  ubuntu
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> cloud__: then you will need about 20Gb and be super comfy, the apps will probably use  about 5Gb then the rest will be for settings and so on. As you have the data partition you can get away with a small partition :)
[13:42] <cloud__> ActionParsnip: thank you so much for your help
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> cloud__: any time :)
[13:43] <_cronus_> Bauer1, could you restart the machine?
[13:43] <Bauer1> _cronus_, sure but how to ensure the network interface will come up this time?
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> cloud__: so the whole Ubuntu partitioning only needs to be about 23Gb, leaving free space to use for the data partition
[13:45] <kracekumar> is there any program like reps.mozilla.org in ubuntu ?
[13:45] <greengeek> join/ubuntu-hu
[13:45] <cloud__> ActionParsnip: 20 GB for ubuntu and 2GB for swap?
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> cloud__: indeed
[13:46] <cloud__> ActionParsnip:  ok. hope that next time i'll connect from ubuntu :)
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> cloud__: planning partitions is good, saves having to resize later too
[13:46] <cloud__> ActionParsnip: i know, that's why i prefer asking  :)
[13:47] <sbarcteam> hi.
[13:47] <Volatile> Gnea: nice. I let testdisk do something to the boot record on my windows partition. Hopefully I'll have a working dual-boot after rebooting. :) (If not, I'll have a very fancy brick without a cd-drive...)
[13:47] <sbarcteam> I'm using gnome3 in 12.10. after the upgrade from 12.04 the previously visible keyboard layout display on the top bar - disappeared.
[13:47] <sbarcteam> the shortcuts still work.
[13:48] <bonhoeffer_> i have mouse, but can't interact with screen, any advise?
[13:48] <bonhoeffer_> chromium grayed out . . .
[13:49] <kracekumar> chromium stable is unstable
[13:49] <cnf> DJones: Empathy just does NOT want to respect my natural scrolling
[13:50] <cnf> DJones:  and pudgin seems very hard to theme
[13:50] <cnf> and the default is uhm... ugly :P
[13:50] <Peanut> *woot* after two days, I managed to install grub on my dmraid and can boot again.
[13:50] <sipior> Peanut: glad you got that working :-)
[13:51] <bonhoeffer_> i'm looking at cycling power as the only option . . .
[13:51] <bonhoeffer_> what is the ctl+alt+delete equivalent?
[13:51] <Code_Factory> Hello all, I'm on ubuntu 11.10 and netbeans stopped working today after an update and some plugin installs.. ideas?
[13:51] <ghostnik11> hi can anyone tell me how to get javascript live chatting working in firefox, for some reason when i click start chatting on the website it doesn't let me talk with anyone
[13:52] <_cronus_> Bauer1, true
[13:52] <_cronus_> Bauer1, we'll have to fix this anyway
[13:52] <chucktewks> good morning all
[13:52] <chatman> ghostnik11: have you got noscript or something similar on?
[13:53] <Bauer1> _cronus_: cant we fix the network before restarting machine?
[13:53] <ghostnik11> chatman: yes i get no script or when i click nothing happens
[13:53] <Tech-1> he might not have a java plugin for ff
[13:53] <Sebboh> How do I log out of Unity Desktop?  Great.  Now, how do I log out using only the keyboard? :)
[13:53] <ghostnik11> Tech-1: isn't it pre installed with firefox
[13:53] <Tech-1> no
[13:53] <chucktewks> i have a question... i recenly just rebuilt my computer for Ubuntu 12.10 desktop - during the download i was prompted to make a donation to canonical - is there something you get additionally for making that $$?
[13:53] <ghostnik11> Tech-1: will check if i have it, thanks
[13:54] <chatman> Tech-1: java is not the same as javascript
[13:54] <Tech-1> ghostnik11>  look in synaptic under java and look for the icetea plugin
[13:54] <Tech-1> i
[13:54] <Tech-1> c
[13:55] <_cronus_> Bauer1, you mean upstart?
[13:55] <ghostnik11> Tech-1: it was disabled in firefox, should i still check synaptic
[13:55] <Tech-1> not if ot works
[13:55] <JonJ> chucktewks: Nothing extra, except you can decide where to focus your donation
[13:55] <Tech-1> also, make sure noscript is configured properly
[13:55] <chucktewks> JonJ, thanks :)
[13:56] <kracekumar> crash logs in /var/crash removed periodically ?once it is uploaded to ubuntu servers >?
[13:56] <ghostnik11> Tech-1: in add on window i have java tm plug in 1.6.0_26
[13:56] <Tech-1> your good
[13:56] <Bauer1> _cronus_, I am not sure - do you remember after upgrade to 12, we had to manually start the networking adapters?
[13:56] <mregg> Hi all, I'm looking for a document manager in Linux, is there any such thing?
[13:57] <chatman> ghostnik11: java has absolutely nothing to do with javascript
[13:57] <kracekumar> mregg, what is doc manager ?
[13:57] <Tech-1> hes right
[13:57] <_cronus_> Bauer1, yes, we starting network service using upstart
[13:57] <mregg> kracekumar: well, I'm scanning stuff that I archive, and I'd like to be able to sort of tag them in various ways so I can find them easily later on
[13:58] <chucktewks> another question - some apps that i use place the window "behind" the bar at the top making it impossible to move/resize the window  - is there a keystroke or similar that will allow me manually move/resize?
[13:58] <Sebboh> alt-f1 doesn't seem to provide any options for logging out.  alt-f2 > logout doesn't do anything.  For that matter, alt-f2 > x-www-browser doesn't do anything, either...  This is a guest session.  I could switch to the console and stop the display manager... But I figured if I'm going to use Ubuntu I might as well learn the keybindings.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KeyboardShortcuts doesn't tell me how to end the session.  Help?
[13:58] <ghostnik11> Tech-1: chatman, do you think its because i have adblock plus enabled, and thanks i thought java and javascript were the same entity
[13:58] <kracekumar> mregg, well no idea about those
[13:58] <Tech-1> unless you willfully locked it out, it shouldnt
[13:58] <_cronus_> Bauer1, could you tell me the size of /sbin/init to see if it has been diverted?
[13:59] <kracekumar> mregg, but it deserves to be an app
[13:59] <Bauer1> _cronus_: no, we used start networking, and service ssh start - we did not do anything else to ensure it will be started back after reboot yet
[13:59] <mregg> kracekumar: I think what I'm looking for is a "document management system".
[14:00] <JonJ> chucktewks: Perhaps you can try pressing alt when clicking the window? I believe that worked before at least
[14:00] <KamZou`> I have a Linux used as an NFS server. I got one file with these attributes : ?????????? ? ?    ?     ?              ? rrrdrfdf       Any way to remove it ? What i get this file ?
[14:00] <kracekumar> mregg, well when I heard of document manager I thought of sphix
[14:00] <kracekumar> *sphinx
[14:00] <Sebboh> _cronus_: May I ask what you mean by diverted?  Replaced?  A better way to check if an important executable has been replaced is to look at the checksum.  md5sum(1) should do the trick.
[14:01] <chucktewks> JonJ: thanks
[14:01] <chucktewks> JonJ, thanks
[14:01] <JonJ> chucktewks: No problem :)
[14:01] <_cronus_> Bauer1, yes upstart is responsible for starting services. start is an upstart command
[14:01] <mregg> kracekumar: sphinx is more like a document generator, as I understand.
[14:01] <chucktewks> JonJ, silly IRC question, how do i get the reply to you to be in red with the colon? :)
[14:01] <_cronus_> Bauer1, sysv has been deprecated in ubuntu.
[14:02] <Sebboh> Can anyone see me?
[14:02] <DJones> Sebboh: Yep
[14:02] <Sebboh> Thanks, DJ.
[14:02] <chatman> chucktewks: thats a highlight, mention their nick
[14:02] <JonJ> chucktewks: Not sure. The red text you see is when someone highlights your
[14:02] <mregg> Well, have a nice day and, to those of you that are close to Sandy, hang on tight!
[14:02] <JonJ> *nickname
[14:02] <kracekumar> mregg, yes it generates  documents and helps to manage documentation of the projects.
[14:03] <chucktewks> chatman, thanks!
[14:03] <Bauer1> _cronus_: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 43496 Jan 21  2009 /sbin/init
[14:03] <Bauer1> _cronus_: hmm so by starting networking, we actually made it autostart?
[14:03] <Sebboh> chucktewks: it's only red on your end.  On my screen, my name always shows up red. (or whatever.)  Said differently: "It's a client-side feature."
[14:04] <chucktewks> Sebboh, got it
[14:04] <_cronus_> Bauer1, which version of ubuntu are you using?
[14:04] <chucktewks> JonJ, thanks for the resize tip - it's actually ALT-SPACE like winblows
[14:04] <Bauer1> _cronus_ either 10.10 LTS or 12.04 LTS
[14:05] <JonJ> chucktewks:  Well, being half right is better than being wrong :P
[14:05] <chatman> Bauer1: 10.04 is lts, 10.10 wasn't
[14:06] <Sebboh> jaeger: I know a guy named that, met him in Iowa.
[14:06] <_cronus_> Bauer1, i get 190432 163096 for 12.04 32 and 64bit respectively.
[14:06] <jaeger> Greetings, all. I've got a precise install authenticating against active directory via samba/winbind and pam_winbind. Login, X session, etc. work great. What's odd is that when I try to do something that requires a privilege elevation, such as edit a wireless connection in NetworkManager, it will only accept the password for a local user, even if my AD user is able to run sudo/gksu/gksudo without trouble. Anyone know where I should look to fix this?
[14:07] <Bauer1> _cronus_: apologies! I did ll in the wrong window which is centos :) correct one is: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 125640 Jan 22  2011 /sbin/init*
[14:07] <jaeger> Sebboh: it's no part of my real name, for what that's worth, only my online presence. :)
[14:07] <Bauer1> _cronus_ which is also 64bit
[14:09] <fluitfries> i need a simple image editor that will crop, resize, and compress image files.  any suggestions?
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> fluitfries: gthumb I believe does it
[14:09] <Sebboh> _cronus_: again, if you're worried about people replacing /sbin/init, you can't just check filesize to confirm that the file is unaltered.  The sort of people who replace executables are well versed in the art of blending in.  There are automated tools to generate an executable with filesize X.  (Just use a small exectuable and padding!)  SO, check the md5sum.
[14:10] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[14:10] <fluitfries> ActionParsnip, kk
[14:10] <_cronus_> Sebboh, no, not worried about that.
[14:11] <Sebboh> jaeger: ok. Hello and cheers. I think your authentication issue has something to do with polkit.  I hope this tidbit puts you on the right track. :)
[14:11] <jaeger> Sebboh: I believe you're correct but I'm new to polkit, still digging. :)
[14:11] <Bauer1> _cronus_ so, what do you think? how can I ensure network will start after reboot?
[14:12] <Sebboh> _cronus_: I see.  Carry on. :)
[14:12] <gp5st> hello. is there a good way to make a loop-back disk that is both compressed and encrypted (in that order, compress the data, then encrypt it)
[14:12] <jaeger> I've taken a look at the dbus and polkit files networkmanager installs and it seems to use the pam at_console bit to check if a user is authorized. In the case of both my local user and AD user that should check out fine. 'ck-list-sessions' shows both as local
[14:13] <_cronus_> Bauer1, could you reinstall upstart?
[14:13] <jaeger> Sebboh: ironically I might have just figured it out, going to test more
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> gp5st: so like a disk image file, which is loop mounted?
[14:13] <_cronus_> Bauer1, also check /etc/apt/sources.list to see your repositories
[14:14] <gp5st> ActionParsnip: yes
[14:14] <Sebboh> jaeger: you're already above my level on that.  Good luck!  ...Hah, yeah, the act of phrasing a question for someone else frequently brings it all together.
[14:14] <gp5st> ActionParsnip: the only thing i can think of is having a compressed disk image inside an encrypted one
[14:14] <gp5st> but that's not really elegant
[14:14] <Bauer1> _cronus_ when I do apt-get remove upstart, I get The following packages have unmet dependencies: apache2.2-common : Depends: procps but it is not going to be installed
[14:15] <Bauer1> _cronus_: hmmm, the sources are maverick - I think thats old, no?
[14:15] <chatman> Bauer1: yes, maverick is eol
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> gp5st: qcow2   in qemu states it is compressed and encrypted, maybe you can make the image with that. http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man1/qemu-img.1.html   could aybe be used in Ubuntu. Not something I've ever done as I don't wear a tinfoil hat
[14:16] <_cronus_> chatman, which release was maverick? 10.10?
[14:16] <designbybeck> when you press and hold your Superkey... one option is Alt+` ...but I don't see that it does anything??
[14:16] <Bauer1> chatman: why didnt the upgrade update it?
[14:16] <designbybeck> can anyone else tell me if it works ?
[14:16] <gp5st> ActionParsnip: I want to keep my gnucash on a thumbdrive, so it's not _that_ tinfoil hatty
[14:16] <chatman> _cronus_: yes
[14:16] <habstinat> I have Ubuntu Linux 12.10 recently installed. When I complete a game (e.g. Mahjongg/Difficult) it displays an empty scores list, and says "Your score didn't make the top ten.". This seems to be a long-standing problem, but I haven't seen a solution anywhere. Does anyone know what can cause this, and how to fix it ? If I do 'ls -l /var/games' I see this for the scores file: -rw-rw-rw- 1 root games 0 Oct 17 16.00 /var/games/mahjong
[14:16] <jrib> designbybeck: doesn't that let you alt-tab but only with windows of the same application?
[14:17] <chatman> Bauer1: update what?
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> gp5st: why not format the partition to use encrypted file system then put your file onto the device, should be ok
[14:17] <designbybeck> i tired it with a bunch of firefox windows open jrib and it didn't seem to do anything?
[14:17] <Bauer1> chatman: the sources list to 12.04?
[14:17] <jrib> habstinat: have you checked for a bug at http://bugs.ubuntu.com?
[14:17] <jaeger> Sebboh: ok, I did just figure it out and I feel stupid. :D My local user is a member of both 'adm' and 'sudo' groups. My AD user was only a member of the 'adm' group which I thought was the proper one. Adding my AD user to the 'sudo' group seems to be the solution. I'm not used to ubuntu at all from an enterprise administration standpoint, heh.
[14:17] <designbybeck> oops... sorry jrib i was doing superkey ` not alt `
[14:17] <designbybeck> my bad
[14:17] <jrib> designbybeck: :P
[14:18] <gp5st> ActionParsnip: I'm considering mirroring it on a network drive as well, so i'd prefer a single file
[14:18] <chatman> Bauer1: how did you upgrade? one release to the next or straight from 10.10?
[14:18] <Bauer1> chatman: stright from 10.10
[14:18] <chatman> Bauer1: that's not supported
[14:18] <designbybeck> jrib: Wish you could use mouse controls to select a window instead of just "tabbing" though them all
[14:18] <jaeger> Sebboh: thanks for your comments. Even though it wasn't directly polkit-related your comment did make me think to check my group membership.
[14:18] <Sebboh> habstinat: are you in the games user group?
[14:19] <Sebboh> jaeger: happy to ...help!
[14:19] <jaeger> :D
[14:19] <Bauer1> chatman: lol.. hmm I followed this: http://www.unixmen.com/how-to-upgrade-from-ubuntu-1004-1010-1104-to-ubuntu-1110-oneiric-ocelot-desktop-a-server/
[14:20] <Bauer1> chatman: by the time I noticed its not for 10.10, was too late to stop and anyway were no errors during upgrade
[14:20] <chatman> Bauer1: i would reinstall
[14:21] <Bauer1> chatman: hmmm ok, and then what? from 10.10 to 11, then 12?
[14:21] <chatman> Bauer1: no, just install the latest
[14:21] <rootpt> can some one acess to youtube and do a search? i cant
[14:21] <Bauer1> chatman: I cant, the VPS comes with 10.10, I'd need to upgrade
[14:22] <lissyx> Hello
[14:22] <chatman> Bauer1: no point installing an old release just to upgrade it immediately
[14:22] <chatman> Bauer1: oh, vps
[14:22] <chatman> Bauer1: sorry i can't help
[14:22] <SsraL> Hey guys. I hope I am not wrong here. I got Ubuntu 12.04 on my laptop installed. Closing the lid makes the laptop to move into S3. However, opening the lid makes nothing. I have to press the power button. Want it to restore from S3 autmatically after opening the lid. Anyone knows related problems?
[14:22] <lissyx> I've upgraded my thinkpad laptop to quantal the day it got released, and since I'm having spurious Xorg CPU spike, which seems to be correlated to gnome-terminal usage
[14:23] <lissyx> I've found no bug report of this, and I've tried a lot of things (disabling transparency, etc.) but no luck
[14:23] <gp5st> ActionParsnip: qemu-img: Compression and encryption not supported at the same time :(
[14:23] <TheJelly> Hello
[14:23] <dr_willis> SsraL: if its working fine after you press the button. i would consider you lucky.
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> gp5st: i see
[14:24] <SsraL> @dr_willis: Thank you! But any suggestions?
[14:25] <_cronus_> Bauer1, i think you should upgrade to 12.04 before anything.
[14:26] <TheJelly> What does it mean when the software center darkens?
[14:26] <gp5st> ActionParsnip: Maybe the solution is to only keep so many days of logs instead of an unlimited number and just use an encrypted image
[14:26] <Bauer1> _cronus_, didnt I do that? I am not sure.. because /etc/issue says 10.10 but I did the upgrade procedure as described in that article
[14:26] <chatman> TheJelly: it means the app is hanging
[14:26] <_cronus_> Bauer1, try running do-release-upgrade again
[14:26] <chatman> TheJelly: it's a compiz feature
[14:27] <souliaq> How I can add/remove elements in "dash" in Ubuntu 12.04?
[14:28] <b2coutts> Is there a nice way to handle all files in a directory except for one in bash? (i.e. move everything in ~/Documents except document.txt)
[14:28] <fulcan> broadcom 4313 no wireless extensions found. whats the trick to getting it to work?
[14:28] <_cronus_> Bauer1, 12.04 is a great server platform.
[14:28] <chatman> !broadcom | fulcan
[14:29] <fulcan> ubottu thank you!
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> gp5st: its not something I've ever had to use, maybe others can advise. All I can say is the encrypted file system can be used on the USB device
[14:31] <chucktewks> can you make folders of icons in the launcher on the left side of the screen?
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> chucktewks: you can make right click menus in the icons
[14:33] <FlowRiser> chucktewks, yes you can, search on making desktop files
[14:33] <chucktewks> ActionParsnip, thanks - i'll try it
[14:33] <chucktewks> FlowRiser, thanks - i'll give it a whirl
[14:33] <blackdex> Hello there... is it possible to change the context-menu to dark again in 12.10?
[14:34] <greenit> hi, i installed jdk6u37 on a server, but when i type in "java -version" it says java client vm, but i need the java server vm... how can i install it? is there a different downloadpage for the java server vom on oracle?
[14:36] <mrgreeen> hell
[14:36] <mrgreeen> hello?
[14:36] <mrgreeen> hello?
[14:36] <compdoc> hell is a bad word
[14:36] <chucktewks> compdoc, hell is a bad PLACE
[14:36] <chucktewks> :)
[14:36] <compdoc> dunno - never been
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> chucktewks: depends how you think about it really
[14:38] <greenit> can any1 help me plz?
[14:39] <gp5st> greenit: answers don't come quickly sometimes. also, i don't believe there is any difference between the vms excpet for some options
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> greenit: http://javanotes.hubpages.com/hub/Using_the_Server_JVM
[14:41] <SsraL> There is a difference in loading time for the jvm client/server
[14:41] <mrgreeen> test
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> !test | mrgreeen
[14:42] <soman> Hi all. Is any light http sniffer to sniff my local requests from some apps?
[14:43] <mrgreeen> ES? ITA?
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> soman: could use wireshark and filter out http traffic etc
[14:44] <afidegnum> hello good morning, pls I am trying to set a cron job to run as 1   30   *   *   *   wget -O - -q -t 1 http://www.thestorecomplex.com/cron.php is it correct? I want it to run every 30 mins of each hour, everyday
[14:44] <_cronus_> greenit, i think it is the same package. try java -server -version
[14:45] <llutz> afidegnum: "30   *   *   * * ...."
[14:45] <brandtone> ever since i upgraded to 12.10 i get all sorts of scripts that run at start up and shutdown
[14:45] <jrib> afidegnum: 1st minute, 30th hour?
[14:45] <afidegnum> no
[14:45] <afidegnum> jrib every 30 mins of the hour, everyday
[14:46] <jrib> afidegnum: what you have written now does not make sense :)  See llutz's suggestion
[14:46] <llutz> afidegnum: "0,30   *   *   *  *  wget ...."
[14:46] <afidegnum> ok, thanks
[14:46] <afidegnum> do I have to place the comma or space ?
[14:47] <jrib> afidegnum: ,
[14:47] <llutz> afidegnum: man 5 crontab
[14:47] <jrib> afidegnum: 0,30 will execute at X:00 and X:30 for every hour X
[14:48] <econdudeawesome> Howdy all. I seem to be running out of room on my primary partition, even though I have virtually everything saved to a separate partition that mounts at /mnt/ instead of /. How do I check to see if the data on /mnt is actually being counted as being on /'s partition?
[14:48] <llutz> jrib: afidegnum .. which is my translation of "every 30 mins of the hour, everyday"
[14:48] <afidegnum> ok
[14:49] <brandtone> is anyone available to help me with my question
[14:49] <Tech-1> you know the drill
[14:50] <surferboy> hi guys
[14:50] <camaro> hi surfer
[14:50] <gp5st> brandtone: be patient
[14:50] <kushal_kumaran> econdudeawesome: open a terminal and run df -h
[14:50] <surferboy> I'm not an expert with sed and I'm wondering if you can help
[14:51] <econdudeawesome> kushal_kumaran: yep
[14:51] <MoTec> all the sed experts have beards and long hair tied back in a ponytail.    generally wearing jeans and a black t-shirt, too.
[14:51] <gp5st> brandtone: also, you give no actual information as to what the issue is, how you know it's an issue, and what you've done to correct said issue
[14:51] <econdudeawesome> kushal_kumaran: what am I looking for from that then?
[14:51] <surferboy> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=4818186#post4818186
[14:51] <surferboy> anyone know?
[14:52] <econdudeawesome> kushal_kumaran: http://pastebin.com/Nh42TBmc
[14:52] <xro> Hi, i have an ubuntu installed in hp proliant server. They have fiber channel interfaces... Can i interconnect my 2 ubuntu server with FC?
[14:52] <kushal_kumaran> econdudeawesome: your / is getting full independently of /mnt
[14:52] <bkc_> xro: short answer, yes
[14:53] <econdudeawesome> kushal_kumaran: ok
[14:53] <MoTec> surferboy: http://bytes.com/topic/unix/answers/648158-extract-email-addresses-big-file
[14:53] <kushal_kumaran> econdudeawesome: check for runaway logfiles in /var/log
[14:53] <econdudeawesome> kushal_kumaran: that's really strange, since I just reinstalled ubuntu and my (small) dropbox folder last week
[14:54] <econdudeawesome> will do
[14:54] <xro> bkc_, will it work like with a simple ethernet card?
[14:54] <chucktewks> as a general practice - where should applications get "installed"  if they're not proscribed in an install script and only come as a tar file?
[14:54] <econdudeawesome> kushal_kumaran: should I dig deeper than the initial /var/log file?
[14:54] <soman> ActionParsnip: installed wireshark it tells me that there are no interfaces to sniff
[14:55] <bkc_> xro: havn't played that much with FC in linux, so no idea... but I guess it will :)
[14:55] <chadams> I've got ubuntu 12.10, running alongside win7 - used the windows installer. I would like to add the /host drive to the devices list in the folder application. anyone know how to do this?
[14:55] <jrib> chucktewks: /usr/local/ for programs with a "unixy" structure, /opt otherwise
[14:55] <surferboy> MoTec, not really helpful
[14:55] <chucktewks> jrib, thanks
[14:55] <llutz> surferboy: sed 's/.*\(<.*<.*>\).*/\1/'
[14:55] <_cronus_> kushal_kumaran, i think the usage is in his .Private (according to his pastebin)
[14:55] <MoTec> surferboy: the code in that link does exactly what you wanted.
[14:55] <Bauer1> _cronus_, the upgrade process starts me again about overwriting various configuration files such as /etc/init/upstart-udev-bridge.conf (it starts with it)... should I answer no to all this time?
[14:55] <kushal_kumaran> econdudeawesome: /var/log is a directory that most logs go in.  Running du -hs /var/log will tell you if that directory is using up too much space
[14:56] <Bauer1> previous time I did it selectively, _cronus_
[14:56] <bkc_> xro: read this? http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/karmic/man4/isp.4freebsd.html
[14:56] <brandtone> when ever i shut down, or start up i get a long list of processes, i.e. "disconnect sources, freeing watches, removing ....., event loop disconnect etc...and was wondering if this is normal because i never experienced it before and just started happening
[14:56] <kushal_kumaran> _cronus_: that's the encrypted home directory from the same /dev/sda1 partition
[14:56] <econdudeawesome> kushal_kumaran: not too bad, just 34 MB
[14:56] <kushal_kumaran> econdudeawesome: if you haven't rebooted recently, some program might be holding some large file open
[14:57] <MoTec> so yeah, it was akw not sed, tho.
[14:57] <econdudeawesome> kushal_kumaran: just started up
[14:57] <MoTec> awk*
[14:57] <kushal_kumaran> econdudeawesome: can you unmount /dev/sda3 and make sure /mnt on /dev/sda1 is empty?
[14:58] <_cronus_> Bauer1, have you configured any special services ? if not i would advise to let it overwrite evety configuration file and set them up again after upgrade.
[14:58] <econdudeawesome> do I just do $sudo unmount /dev/sda3 ?
[14:58] <_cronus_> Bauer1, you'll probably have to upgrade again after this.
[14:58] <kushal_kumaran> econdudeawesome: sudo umount /dev/sda3
[14:59] <xro> bkc_, i have to concede that it is the first time i use FC...  Wich protocol will FC use to access a remote machine?
[14:59] <econdudeawesome> kushal_kumaran: /mnt is empty
[14:59] <fragmachine> Where can I find/download the man pages for ncurses?
[14:59] <fragmachine> are thre any?
[15:00] <surferboy> llutz, thanks
[15:00] <xro> bkc_, will my server be able to access other equipment (based on ethernet and IP) throught his FC interface?
[15:00] <kushal_kumaran> econdudeawesome: then just run sudo du -hsx /* to find out disk usage of all the directories under / and see
[15:01] <econdudeawesome> thanks kushal_kumaran I'll check that out
[15:01] <LucidGuy> looking to secure my ntpd server.  This is my current file, should I be doing anything different in regards to securing it?  I would like the ntp server to only respond to the 192... network specified.  I will eventually tighten up my iptables.  My conf.   http://paste.ubuntu.com/1318122/
[15:01] <econdudeawesome> something in my /home directory--possible it's my encrypted portion?
[15:03] <econdudeawesome> dang it, it looks like it's the encrypted portion. Possible to turn off hard drive encryption?
[15:04] <belgianguy> is there a way to keep a Flash video in full screen on a seperate monitor?
[15:04] <econdudeawesome> kushal_kumaran: is removing the encrypted portion of the hard drive real as easy as $ rm -r ~/.encryptfs ?
[15:04] <belgianguy> whenever I click, it snapŝ out of it, both in FF and Chrome
[15:05] <kushal_kumaran> econdudeawesome: hold on before you do an rm -rf.  First run du -hsx /home/tom/* and see if you can find out what's using the disk space
[15:06] <dr_willis> belgianguy: i use somw flashvideoreplacer plugins that play flash in vlc or in mplayer.   seen your problem in the past.
[15:06] <econdudeawesome> kushal_kumaran: how to also look at hidden files?
[15:06] <eivind> oops
[15:06] <econdudeawesome> ack, it's my Thunderbird
[15:06] <kushal_kumaran> econdudeawesome: du -hsx /home/tom/.* /home/tom/*
[15:07] <belgianguy> ah, dr_willis thanks, but then these things are not seen as bugs, but rather, features?
[15:07] <econdudeawesome> kushal_kumaran: 30 GB in thunderbird
[15:07] <gartral> econdudeawesome: wow you have alot of mail >.>
[15:07] <dr_willis> belgianguy: we cant fix adobes bugs. and they dont care about linux.
[15:08] <econdudeawesome> gartral: I actually dont, that's the funny thing. Kept getting crashes last week on Thunderbird though...
[15:08] <kushal_kumaran> econdudeawesome: ah, that would be it.  try that compact folders action, or something that tbird has
[15:08] <econdudeawesome> kushal_kumaran: ok. It's werid because I thought I set all my accounts to sync only the last 30 days.
[15:08] <gartral> dr_willis belgianguy gnash.
[15:08] <fragmachine> When I download ncurses it doesn't install the manpages. How can I force the manpages to be installed?
[15:08] <belgianguy> dr_willis: true, forgot about Adobe for a moment, but they have a consisting record of letdowns
[15:08] <dr_willis> i use every way possible to avoid flash.
[15:08] <fragmachine> does anyone else get a result from <man ncurses>?
[15:09] <kushal_kumaran> econdudeawesome: not familiar with thunderbird myself
[15:09] <belgianguy> well HTML5 used to be the next thing coming
[15:09] <dr_willis> flash replacer and downloader plugins are handy.
[15:09] <belgianguy> but it's taking its sweet time
[15:09] <econdudeawesome> kushal_kumaran: no worries. Probably easiest to just reinstall and resync to fix
[15:09] <phoenixmy> hello......
[15:10] <Tech-1> i just checked ff, those plugins (it says) are no longer available
[15:10] <phoenixmy> anyone online?
[15:10] <kushal_kumaran> econdudeawesome: should be possible to simply rm -rf the thunderbird directory while it is not running, if you don't care about locally stored mail and config
[15:10] <econdudeawesome> thanks kushal_kumaran -- it was Thunderbird. Now the partition is down to 16GB instead of 50
[15:10] <dr_willis> i see many sites that stream video to my android phones video player on my phone.. so flash is slowly going away.
[15:10] <econdudeawesome> kushal_kumaran: did that too
[15:11] <belgianguy> dr_willis: well that's good to hear
[15:11] <belgianguy> I used to be in this HTML5 YouTube beta, but it's quite selective it seems
[15:11] <econdudeawesome> kushal_kumaran: but seeing all the issues I've had recently with it, I'm considering just switching permanently to Alpine or Mutt
[15:11] <econdudeawesome> kushal_kumaran: thanks again for your help!
[15:11] <kushal_kumaran> econdudeawesome: I use offlineimap and notmuch-emacs
[15:12] <gartral> belgianguy: the html5 beta is still going.. and it uses either h264 or webm video..
[15:13] <belgianguy> gartral: good to know!
[15:14] <belgianguy> something else entirely, but does Ubuntu ever produce ads?
[15:16] <GunArm1> is it impossible to keep gnome while getting rid of brasero, evolution, simple-scan, rhythmbox, gnash, etc?
[15:16] <chatman> GunArm1: why would it be?
[15:16] <greenit> ok, i still have a problem with the jvms... here are the outputs of my 2 computers, i would like the same processes on each, but only on the x64, which is the test-server has the needed processes... http://pastebin.com/C0qqZFzD
[15:17] <GunArm1> chatman: I cant do apt-get remove brasero without it removing the whole metapackage
[15:17] <dr_willis> meta packages work that way
[15:17] <stefano__> #ubuntu-uds-b3-m4
[15:17] <boba88> hi
[15:18] <GunArm1> chatman: finally I said ok, away with the metapackage then, as long as it leaves the gnome shell, so I removed a few things (lets just say brasero) and now I have no options in lightdm other than recovery console
[15:18] <GunArm1> dr_willis: ^^
[15:18] <boba88> how can i install the ffmpeg development files ... so that i can have FFMPEG_LIBAVCODEC _INCLUDE_DIR set properly, etc
[15:20] <GunArm1> i can reinstall gnome-session-fallback but it is determined that evolution is going to come with it
[15:20] <GunArm1> i guess i can just live with that
[15:23] <Bauer1> _cronus_: the start networking command is stuck, after reboot and starting back on 11.04
[15:23] <mr_44> Hi! Does anybody know if the Dolphin file manager  have ability to show items on desktop? Like in classic gnome nautilus could?
[15:24] <_cronus_> Bauer1, did you start it manually?
[15:24] <Bauer1> _cronus_ trying to, like I said its not returning, its still running the start job
[15:24] <_cronus_> Bauer1, do you have access to the console?
[15:25] <Bauer1> yes, via the hardware node
[15:25] <Bauer1> _cronus_
[15:26] <_cronus_> Bauer1, try setting the ip manually using ifconfig, just to upgrade again to 11.10, and then to 12.04
[15:26] <GunArm1> didn't "indicator applet complete" have a clock built into it?
[15:26] <_cronus_> Bauer1, don't forget to set the nameserver also
[15:27] <Bauer1> _cronus_: how? interfaces are already preset in /etc/network/interfaces
[15:27] <zzzdfsadsa> so i was wondering what a very good brand/model of DD3 i can find for a nice price
[15:28] <Bauer1> _cronus_ I got it running again, just took a while
[15:28] <_cronus_> Bauer1, great
[15:29] <Bauer1> _cronus_, so again a do-release-upgrade?
[15:29] <_cronus_> Bauer1, i'm afraid so. twice. one to go to 11.10 and another to go to 12.04
[15:30] <Bauer1> _cronus_ can I do it on batch mode for one at least? without prompts
[15:30] <Bauer1> as I have to go
[15:30] <_cronus_> Bauer1, fortunately you won't have to do it again for some time to come ;)
[15:31] <_cronus_> Bauer1, i'm not sure...
[15:31] <eichi> hello, is there a way to disable the unity 3d features? Works a little slow in my virtualbox. 12.10 ubuntu
[15:31] <GunArm1> ugh this is so annoying, this one panel applet "indicator applet complete" is the only way to get the shutdown icon that has all the options in it (lock screen, log out, etc other than just shut down and restart), but for some reason out of the blue it doesnt have a clock in it anymore.  So I have to either add a clock that is now to the RIGHT of the shutdown button or to the LEFT of the notification area, or else replace the "indicator applet complete
[15:32] <tassmjau> hey, I have a question, Im on an ubuntu 12.10 installation with encryted home folder, everything works fine in the defauly desktopenv, but when I run i3 as windowmanager it seems that ~ is not decrypted on login... cant use .ssh-keys etc...
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> eichi: 3D is the only way. There is a new system where the CPU renders the screen if the GPU cannot handle it
[15:32] <tassmjau> is there a way to force that decryption on login?
[15:33] <Bauer1> thanks for everything _cronus_, hopefully it wont be stuck on some prompt while I am away.. will be back to comp in like 2 hours
[15:33] <_cronus_> Bauer1, non-interactive frontend is supposed to do this but i have never used it.
[15:33] <eichi> http://looselytyped.blogspot.in/2012/06/enabledisable-unitycompiz-window.html hm, found this @ Ac
[15:33] <eichi> @ ActionParsnip
[15:33] <fiko> !ciao
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> eichi: I recommend Xubuntu or Lubuntu for a virtual system. They use fewer resources giving a snappier OS
[15:33] <_cronus_> Bauer1, np
[15:34] <fiko> !list
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> eichi: it will still use 3D stuff, you are just telling the OS to animate less things
[15:37] <fluitfries> is there a setting like "ignore accidental trackpad input" so when i am typing but my thumb accidentally hits the trackpad, it is ignored?
[15:38] <GunArm1> how would it know what is accidental?
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> fluitfries: there is 'disable pad while typing'
[15:38] <fluitfries> GunArm1, easy, if i am typing mid sentence...
[15:38] <GunArm1> ah interesting
[15:38] <fluitfries> ActionParsnip, where can i find it?
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> fluitfries: what is the output of:   lsb_release -sc
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> fluitfries: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=ubuntu+disable+touchpad+while+typing   go crazy
[15:39] <fluitfries> ActionParsnip, precise
[15:39] <fluitfries> ActionParsnip, also i am on lubuntu
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> fluitfries: instead of asking 'where do I find that' use the direction given to find guides.....
[15:39] <greenit> i have 2 computers, 1 has ubuntu 10.04 and one ubuntu 12.04... on the 12.04 there is an additional process (java-application) when i start the application, how can i get this process on 10.04 too? or did there change so much?
[15:40] <fluitfries> ActionParsnip, i said that because i had already looked through all my settings, naturally.
[15:40] <fluitfries> ActionParsnip, i'm going to have to figure out now how to do this with lubuntu.
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> fluitfries: https://lgjsheron.wordpress.com/2010/04/21/disabling-annoying-touchpad-while-typing-in-ubuntu/
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> fluitfries:  I used the same link I gave you....
[15:41] <bbk> salam
[15:41] <GunArm1> hmm the force quit applet has never gotten fixed since 12.04
[15:42] <Malimbar> GunArm1, what was broken with it?
[15:42] <blackshirt> salam
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> fluitfries: http://www.noobslab.com/2012/02/disable-touchpad-while-typing-or.html
[15:42] <fluitfries> ActionParsnip, there must have been some lag or something.  in my buffer i made the statement before you posted the 1st link.  trivial anyhow, and thank you for your help.  :)
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> fluitfries: that one is aprettier way
[15:43] <Osarius> Hello, I'm VNCing to my Ubuntu 12.04 server, but whenever I attempt to launch a program I get "Failed to fork (cannot allocate memory)~
[15:43] <GunArm1> Malimbar: it doesn't work at all, it comes up with the message "Click on a window to force the application to quit.  To cancel press <ESC>." but it doesnt accept any user input (clicks or esc) and you have to reboot your machine to get control back
[15:43] <GunArm1> or atleast restart x
[15:43] <GunArm1> i've seen it on several machines including the VM i just built
[15:43] <Malimbar> ah. I use xkill, so I haven't even thought about it
[15:44] <GunArm1> one of these days I'll go through the hassle of learning how to file a bug report
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> Osarius: what are you trying to launch?
[15:44] <GunArm1> Malimbar: xkill eh? ill check thout out
[15:44] <fsrvg>  greetings, i'm working on a debian for android project. I've run into a small snag, perhaps you can help, include your hame if you want a design credit. please fwd data and http links to    magizian@gmail.com  , thanks.  specificly, networking isnt passing via qemu between target and host. network started and ifconfig loopback only registers and data not passing. thinking i need qemu -net string and possibly a linux qemu compatablr vm driver in .deb/.rpm on 
[15:44] <Malimbar> alt-F2 xkill
[15:45] <Osarius> ActioParsnip: It doesn't matter what program. I've tried pretty much everything.
[15:46] <GunArm1> Malimbar: works like a champ! thanks
[15:46] <Osarius> ActionParsnip: It doesn't matter what program. I've tried pretty much everything.
[15:46] <Malimbar> GunArm1, no problem!
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> Osarius: ok, what are you VNCing to the server to achieve? What will you be doing on the remote system? There is very often a sleeker, less clunky solution than VNC for most things
[15:47] <Osarius> ActionParsnip: I am trying to set up YaCy P2P Search. I can't do this remotely and I do not have physical access to the server.
[15:48] <Osarius> ActionParsnip: When I say remotely, I mean via HTTP.
[15:48] <gartral> Osarius: do you have ssh set up on the server?
[15:49] <Osarius> gartral: Yes, I am using Putty to SSH.
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> Osarius: I just looked at a how to, isn't it a lot of work in the terminal?
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> Osarius: so why do you need VNC if you have an SSH connection?
[15:50] <q_a_z_steve> WTF? What did I do wrong if I can't get my MBP to boot a USB? I followed the instructions for creating it on ubuntu.com I can mount the drive normally and see that it looks okay. How can I check whether it's bootable though?
[15:50] <bbk>  ye sar be in site bezanid:    http://www.nlfreevpn.com/  . moshkelesh ine ke passesh har chand saat avaz mishe. mishe ba bash kari kard ke be tore khodkar har vaght pass taghir kard khodkar ghesmate passe marbut be vpn taghir kine?che juri? ya che juri mishe ba bash hadde aghal mishe passha ro ba saateshun to ye file matni save kard?
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> q_a_z_steve: did you MD5 test the iSO you downloaded?
[15:50] <cannonball> hi all, I just upgraded from 11.04 to 11.10 IIRC.  I no longer have the Gnome Desktop and am using Unity.  The terminal app (Terminator) is on one of the quick launch buttons, but it only launches one.  When I double click on it again to open a second terminal, it just brings focus to the first one.
[15:50] <gartral> Osarius: my recommendation would be a linux vm then, in a terminal ssh -X -C user@server.address and launch you praphical needs from that.
[15:51] <gartral> graphical*
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> cannonball: do you prefer the Gnome2 look?
[15:51] <cannonball> Right clicking just brings up a simple menu without an option to open another.  How do I get it to start multiple terminals?
[15:51] <cannonball> ActionParsnip: yes.
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> cannonball: is the package 'gnome-panel' installed?
[15:51] <q_a_z_steve> ActionParsnip: yes, I'm actually using a DSL iso and did the conversion to dmg and all that.
[15:51] <cannonball> I did install gnome-shell via apt-get but it still doesn't .... ah, gnome-panel.  doing now.
[15:51] <irocksu> hi
[15:51] <Osarius> gartral: When I run that command I get "-bash: fork: Cannot allocate memory "
[15:51] <gartral> cannonball: shift-ctrl-t
[15:51] <irocksu> why do my terminal windows keep disappearing?
[15:52] <irocksu> i installed ubuntu 12.10 and when i open a terminal and alt+tab i cannot find my terminal window any more
[15:52] <cannonball> gartral: that opens a new tab.  I need a new terminal.
[15:52] <Malimbar> irocksu, what are you doing in them?
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> q_a_z_steve: why do you need to convert the ISO, just install unetbootin and you can throw the ISO at it and it will be made into a bootable USB stick
[15:52] <irocksu> Malimbar: Well the usual stuff: cd, apt-get install etc.
[15:53] <Wee_Ericcc> irocksu mdid you switch workspaces?
[15:53] <Malimbar> cannonball, ctr-t makes a new tab. ctr-ALT-t creates a new terminal window
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> cannonball: then log off and select the session from lightdm (under ubuntu icon next to your username) then log in
[15:53] <fluitfries> hmmm, syndaemon doesn't seem to like a value lower than 1 second for "syndaemon -i 1 -d"
[15:53] <irocksu> Wee_Ericcc: Not intentianally, no.
[15:53] <fluitfries> and even one second is quite a delay.
[15:53] <fluitfries> might have to try another solution.
[15:53] <bhavesh> none of the graphics drivers work except the selected default one : http://i.imgur.com/TYKTk.png .They were working in 12.04 :( What shall i do?
[15:53] <q_a_z_steve> ActionParsnip: instructions on ubuntu.com say convert using hdiutil, then dd to push
[15:53] <cannonball> ActionParsnip: says it's already installed, will logout and login a few times and see if selecting any of "Gnome, Gnome no 3D, etc" work to get my Gnome desktop back (/home is an nfs mount).
[15:54] <irocksu> if i ps aux | grep terminal i only get the current one
[15:54] <irocksu> so they must have been closed/destroyed
[15:54] <gartral> Osarius: ahh.. X forwarding isn't enable on the server side. this is easy, ssh user@server.address nano /etc/ssh/ssh_config find the line: # FowardX11 yes and remove the pound sign
[15:54] <gartral> cannonball: shift-ctrl-n
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> cannonball: do you have a fallback mode or similar?
[15:54] <fulat2k> hi folks, i'm getting the error "Inconsistency detected by ld.so: dl-open.c: 667: _dl_open: Assertion `_dl_debug_initialize (0, args.nsid)->r_state == RT_CONSISTENT' failed!" when accessing some sites in Firefox and Chrome.  Any idea what could cause the problem?  I've searched on forums and sites.  None of the suggestions help.
[15:54] <irocksu> plus they do not show up in the launchbar
[15:55] <cannonball> ActionParsnip: Can't recall, will have to logoout to see :-)  Be back in a bit (gotta fix some servers before I can continue working on this)
[15:56] <irocksu> perhaps i should start with small steps. how do i show my terminals in my launcher?
[15:56] <bhavesh> When I install them, there are no window borders, titlebars, sidebar and topbar of unity disappears
[15:57] <ASHER1> Hey i want please explain about ftp if i install ftp and i try inside to ftp localhost and i write ls i see no connect then my question i need also install SSH-2.0?
[15:58] <simion314_> hi all, my microhpne is not working , I am on kubuntu 12.04 , I tried alsamixer,pavucontrol a lot of time I lost reading forums and sites but no solution, anyone here has more experience with audio to help me troubleshoting this, Thx
[15:59] <codemaniac> ahzi: get a FTP server installed first
[15:59] <codemaniac> !FTPd | ASHER1
[16:00] <dr_willis> better to use ssh and forget about ftp
[16:00] <Osarius> gartal: right done that, how do I do X11 forwarding?
[16:00] <deadmund> -X
[16:01] <deadmund> Osarius: ssh -X user@host   (assuming X forwarding it turned on at the host)
[16:01] <ASHER1> ftp server
[16:01] <ASHER1> for upfile
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> ASHER1: if you install openssh-server you get an SFTP server by default.
[16:02] <ASHER1> but i need install openssh for ftp?
[16:02] <dr_willis> ftp is not ssh
[16:02] <dr_willis> so no ASHER1
[16:02] <Osarius> deadmund: So if I wanted to forward Firefox i would run 'firefox -X user@server'?
[16:03] <dr_willis> Osarius: no.
[16:03] <ASHER1> and why i try install ftp in ubuntu 10.4 and this i see after restart this
[16:03] <deadmund> Osarius: no, you would log into your remote host ( ssh -X user@host ) and then run firefox (make sure it isn't running locally already!)
[16:03] <dr_willis> ssh to tge server. start the app..
[16:03] <ASHER1> Since the script you are attempting to invoke has been converted to an
[16:03] <ASHER1> Upstart job, you may also use the restart(8) utility, e.g. restart vsftpd
[16:03] <ASHER1> vsftpd start/running, process 10726
[16:03] <deadmund> dr_willis: to becomes tge   that's a hell of a typo!
[16:03] <skypce> hello people , i have troubles with a compaq cq-126la , and ubuntu 12.04 , when i suspend and back to use the notebook i have a slow and unresponsible mouse movement :S
[16:03] <deadmund> :P
[16:04] <bkfitz> Ubuntu Server 10.04 LTS on Linode with Apache/2.2.14 - I'm trying to get mod_evasive installed and configured, but when I run apxs, I get command not found?
[16:04] <bkfitz> apache2-utils is already installed
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> ASHER1: installing the SSH server gives you an SFTP server. You can then connect with nautilus (or from Windows with Filezilla) and upload and download securely.
[16:04] <cannonball> ActionParsnip: No matter what I select, it's ignoring it and putting me in Unity.  Possibly has something to do with the fact that my username doesn't appear in the click list to login (guessing it doesn't store or honor preferences chosen for that account?)  Thanks for the suggestions though.
[16:04] <ASHER1> ok
[16:04] <dr_willis> firefox is special also. test with a simpiler app Osarius like gedit.
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> cannonball: could also use XFCE, it has the Gnome2 smell
[16:05] <codemaniac> ActionParsnip: with a installation of ssh server you can get use scp, but can you doa sftp also ?
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> Osarius: don't you have firefox on your client system?
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> codemaniac: indeed
[16:05] <delinquentme> so has anyone been having issues with chrome on ubuntu timing out as of the most recent patch?
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> delinquentme: never had an issue
[16:06] <delinquentme> ActionParsnip, I'm timing out of basically ever session I create online ... save for facebook
[16:06] <skypce> do you know some parametter for compaq cq56 machines? as acpi=off some trick?
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> delinquentme: can you ping hostnames on the web?
[16:06] <deadmund> Osarius: If you're sshing over the internet, sometimes it takes a long time to transfer all the GUI information and apps will start slowly
[16:06] <delinquentme> ActionParsnip, I'd assume as I can pull up website
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> skypce: what is the issue?
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> delinquentme: can you ping the sites you are having issue with? Do they resolve to an IP? Do you use a proxy for web access?
[16:07] <skypce> ActionParsnip, when i resume a session (hiberned or suspend) whe mouse has a behaviour slow and unresponsible
[16:07] <Osarius> deadmund: I had to enable X11 forwarding in Putty, I'm trying again now
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> skypce: if you unload then reload the module driving the touchpad, is it ok?
[16:07] <deadmund> Osarius: If you're on windows you also need to install an xserver on your local client.  cygwin is an example of one
[16:07] <skypce> ActionParsnip,  i am using external mouse
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> Osarius: are you connecting from Ubuntu to Ubuntu, or Windows to Ubuntu?
[16:08] <skypce> ActionParsnip,  and with touchpad is same
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> skypce: it still has a driver module, unload it and reload it and it may help
[16:08] <Osarius> ActionParsnip: Windows to Ubuntu
[16:08] <delinquentme> how can I ping a URL
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> delinquentme: same as you ping an IP, just use the name:   ping www.yahoo.com
[16:08] <deadmund> delinquentme: open a terminal, type ping <url>
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> Osarius: you'll need to install and run xming on the Windows OS
[16:08] <delinquentme> nm no slashes ... ok ActionParsnip yeah they resolve to a IP
[16:08] <skypce> ActionParsnip,  thank you :D
[16:09] <delinquentme> and I'm pretty certain I'm not using a proxy
[16:09] <q_a_z_steve> ActionParsnip: trying to avoid another install of software if I can. UnetBootIn looks cute though.
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> Osarius: http://rcc.its.psu.edu/user_guides/remote_display/xming/images/putty-x11.png    will let putty use X forwarding
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> q_a_z_steve: its dead handy. Make your USB with that and you should be fine. Its a tiny app
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> delinquentme: if you make a new Ubuntu user and log in there and use the browser, is it ok?
[16:10] <q_a_z_steve> ActionParsnip: at that rate why can't diskUtility.app work???
[16:11] <deadmund> q_a_z_steve: that's a apple application
[16:11] <deadmund> ?
[16:11] <bkfitz> Need help with mod_evasive on 10.04 - Anyone??
[16:11] <q_a_z_steve> deadmund: yes, thank you. trying to boot this on a MacBookPro.
[16:11] <deadmund> q_a_z_steve: well, this IRC channel is for ubuntu support, not MAC / Apple
[16:12] <deadmund> so we can't help you with some random app on apple software / hardware
[16:13] <delinquentme> ActionParsnip, new ubuntu user + chrome? or just firefox?
[16:14] <q_a_z_steve> deadmund: it was just a comment that I shouldn't have to install anything, if Apple has all this figured out. Which would be nice.
[16:14] <arthur_> brasil
[16:14] <Osarius> ActionParsnip & deadmund: Thank you so much!
[16:15] <deadmund> Osarius: sure
[16:15] <deadmund> q_a_z_steve: I wasn't following the rest of the conversation.  Lemme read the scrollback
[16:15] <arthur_> Brazil
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> delinquentme: both
[16:16] <ASHER1> i try search how i can install SFTP server and i no find :\
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> Osarius: ssh is badass, and secure :)
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> ASHER1: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[16:17] <Osarius> ActionParsnip: I never realised you could do that over SSH.
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> Osarius: oh definately, its a swiss army knife of features
[16:17] <dormito> using ubuntu 12.10 desktop: when ever I launch nautilus it changes the background set with nitrogen, how can I prevent/stop nautilus' controll of the background?
[16:17] <ASHER1> ok
[16:17] <ASHER1> i have this
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> ASHER1: you can then connect to port 22 using your username and password on the server system and you will get access to your home folder :)
[16:18] <ASHER1> i have access
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> ASHER1: in windows you can use Filezilla as a nice GUI app (also runs in Ubuntu)
[16:18] <ASHER1> but i try upfile from web wordpress from ftp
[16:19] <ASHER1> where i can find download filezilla?
[16:19] <Osarius> ActionParsnip: I would recommend WinSCP instead.
[16:22] <prothon> Does anyone know how to renable a PCIe ATI graphics card if using on board APU?
[16:22] <koraytaylan> hello. I just installed libboost1.50-all-dev via apt-get on an ubuntu 12.10. I want to build examples but can't find them anywhere. also there is bjam in /usr/bin but new version of boost build docs using b2 and it doesn't exist. any help?
[16:22] <ASHER1> i have two
[16:22] <akis_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1318340/
[16:22] <ASHER1> Filezilla server and client
[16:23] <ASHER1> what i need to download?
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> ASHER1: client
[16:23] <deadmund> prothon: Usually you have to change it in the BIOS if it isn't working automatically.
[16:23] <ASHER1> ok
[16:23] <ripthejacker> how do i change the icon for apps in notification panel?
[16:23] <hoijui> i have an Asus EEEPC 1000HE, and some update in the last 2 or 3 months caused my wireless to work really bad
[16:23] <hoijui> a friend of mine with an other asus netbook has the smae problem
[16:23] <prothon> deadmund, the bios is switched to auto (if i force either i loose the other)
[16:23] <deadmund> prothon: That is, normally you plug in the card and that takes over.   Only the ports on the card will output video.   If you take the card out, the motherboard works again.
[16:23] <ASHER1> i have more question if i download for client i can upfile?
[16:23] <hoijui> i dod not update a often, so i can not say whehn it started happening
[16:23] <deadmund> prothon: That should be the behavior of 'auto'
[16:24] <prothon> deadmund, I'm trying to do some GPU rendering and the PCIe card doesn'
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> ASHER1: you can connect SFTP to the server
[16:24] <prothon> deadmund, I'm trying to do some GPU rendering and the PCIe card doesn't place nice with my KVM
[16:24] <dhanasekaran> HI Guys The actual calibration works fine with my touchscreen,  but the instructions how to save the calibration values  permanently How to store the permanently witch file i need to store the configuration please guide me guys..  I am using ubuntu 12.04 xubuntu
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> Osarius: seems WinSCP is based on Filezilla
[16:24] <hoijui> ... what can i do?
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> Osarius: in some way anyhoo
[16:24] <deadmund> prothon: You cannot "live switch" with the hardware / software running
[16:24] <ASHER1> ActionParsnip
[16:24] <hoijui> would it help if i could find out which update casued the problem?
[16:24] <hoijui> should i try to run an older kernel?
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> hoijui: what Wifi chip are you using?
[16:25] <dhanasekaran> ActionParsnip: scp not based on filezilla
[16:25] <hoijui> can you tell me a commadn to find out easily, ActionParsnip?
[16:25] <prothon> deadmund, not sure what you mean. I basically want both running at the same time.
[16:25] <hoijui> or should i check manual?
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> dhanasekaran: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WinSCP
[16:25] <dormito> using ubuntu 12.10 desktop: when ever I launch nautilus it changes the background set with nitrogen, how can I prevent/stop nautilus' controll of the background?
[16:25] <prothon> deadmund, just wondering if theres a kernel call i could use or something like that
[16:25] <deadmund> prothon: I am fairly certain that precisely is not possible
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> hoijui: sudo lshw -C network     what is the product line for the wifi?
[16:26] <dhanasekaran> HI Guys The actual calibration works fine with my touchscreen,  but the instructions how to save the calibration values  permanently How to store the permanently witch file i need to store the configuration please guide me guys..  I am using ubuntu 12.04 xubuntu
[16:26] <prothon> deadmund, There's one way that I know. It involves a DVI to VGA connector and some resistors :P
[16:26] <deadmund> prothon: I don't believe so.  You're either using the onboard video or the card.  but NOT both
[16:26] <MonkeyDust> dormito  use gnome-tweak-toom... the first option on top
[16:26] <MonkeyDust> toom = tol
[16:26] <MonkeyDust> tool
[16:26] <GRMrGecko> I've got a all in one system which is displaying "checking battery status" and rebooting the system at random intervals. The system is up to date, someone here suggested that it is the graphics card which is doing this and asked me to push escape whenever it happens, done so and nothing happens.
[16:26] <deadmund> prothon: The issue with your KVM is probably that the KVM is "on" when the card boots.
[16:27] <ASHER1> ActionParsnip
[16:27] <strict9> I installed a mail package earlier this week and I'm worried it messed with my configuration settings. When I run 'apache2 -M' I get 'bad user name ${APACHE_RUN_USER}'. Any ideas?
[16:27] <MonkeyDust> dormito  i repeat: use gnome-tweak-tool... the first option on top
[16:27] <prothon> deadmund, kvm can't handle the singal from the dvi port. It's an old model.
[16:27] <Ashael> hello
[16:27] <deadmund> prothon: You can also try, plugging the monitor directly in to the card, booting, the uplugging and plugging back into the KVM (and don't reboot the machine ever)
[16:27] <deadmund> prothon: Oh. I see.
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> ASHER1: just writing my nick does nothing, if you add text after it then it is useful
[16:27] <deadmund> prothon: you're screwed?
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> dhanasekaran: "WinSCP is based on the implementation of the SSH protocol from PuTTY and FTP protocol from FileZilla."
[16:28] <prothon> deadmund, there's a way! I must dig deeper to find it.
[16:28] <deadmund> prothon: good luck! :)
[16:28] <hoijui> ActionParsnip: product: AR928X Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express)
[16:28] <ASHER1> if i run wordpress from ubuntu 10.04 i can upfile from Filezilla? i want only understand how is work
[16:28] <dhanasekaran> ActionParsnip: i thought scp (GNU)
[16:28] <mr_44> Hi! Does anybody know if the Dolphin file manager  have ability to show items on desktop? Like in classic gnome nautilus could?
[16:28] <ripthejacker> how do i change icon for apps in notification panel
[16:28] <Ashael> quick question: my archive manager seems to be broken. how do i reinstall? I get a warning if i try to remove it. (on 12.10)
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> dhanasekaran: I don't make the rules :)
[16:29] <prothon> deadmund, danke
[16:29] <deadmund> prothon: danke?
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> deadmund: german...means thank you
[16:29] <deadmund> ahh
[16:29] <prothon> Haha thanks ActionParsnip
[16:29] <wols> Ashael: name of said manager?
[16:29] <deadmund> prothon: welcome
[16:29] <dhanasekaran> ActionParsnip: Hey I have problem in touchscreen  my actual calibration works fine with my touchscreen,  but the instructions how to save the calibration values  permanently How to store the permanently witch file i need to store the configuration please guide me guys..  I am using ubuntu 12.04 xubuntu
[16:29] <Ashael> hmm one moment
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> ASHER1: can you SFTP ok now?
[16:30] <Ashael> it's the one that comes bundled with ubuntu, although 7zip also doesn't work
[16:30] <dormito> MonkeyDust: thanks alot that worked perfectly. google was not helping with that one (im not familure enough with ubuntu to be sure of the correct keywords)
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> dhanasekaran: ive not used touchscreen outside my phone, sorry
[16:30] <Ashael> File-roller
[16:30] <MonkeyDust> dormito  my pleasure
[16:30] <wols> !doesn't work | Ashael
[16:30] <dhanasekaran> ActionParsnip: thanks
[16:30] <Ashael> haha
[16:30] <wols> Ashael: you can remove and reinstall it, but unless you know how it "doesn't work" it's probably not a good idea
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> Ashael: did you install :   p7zip       p7zip-full  p7zip-rar
[16:31] <Ashael> no
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> Ashael: That's why then......
[16:31] <Ashael> dependencies?
[16:31] <Ashael> ok, i'll try
[16:31] <Ashael> brb
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> Ashael: I also suggest you install unp rar and unrar
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> Ashael: you need those packages for file roller to be able to extract 7zip archives
[16:32] <prothon> deadmund, http://bitclockers.com/forums/index.php?topic=7.0
[16:33] <deadmund> prothon: neat!
[16:33] <mr_44> Anybody have dolphin file manager installed?
[16:33] <prothon> deadmund, if there's a will, there's some ghetto solution!
[16:33] <deadmund> haha
[16:33] <lmat> in man find, -fprint file  says that it prints the "full file name".
[16:34] <lmat> I ran  find src -name "*.java" -fprint /dev/stdout  and I see the file names on standard out, but they're relative to .
[16:34] <lmat> How do I get the full file names?
[16:34] <hoijui> the threads i find online about this network chipset are all old (latest is from 2010)
[16:35] <BluesKaj> mr_44, yup , I run KDE  , what's your issue
[16:35] <lmat> nm, got it.
[16:35] <hoijui> but the problem is pretty severe...
[16:35] <Ashael> ok, installed all those packages, File-roller simply crashes whenever i try to open it or extract a file in a dir...
[16:35] <hoijui> i am also pretty sure it is a driver problem, because my friend that has an sus netbook aswell, and the same problems under linux, does nto have any under windows
[16:36] <hoijui> and.. i am sure that a LOT of people use this chipset
[16:36] <Ashael> i get a blank window with the title, which then crashes after a few seconds.
[16:36] <hoijui> as it seems to be kind of standard for EEEPCs
[16:36] <hoijui> so.. woudl be kind of important to fix this (if it is not yet fixed)
[16:36] <mr_44> BluesKaj Hello! :) Do you know if the Dolphin file manager  have ability to show items on desktop? Like in classic gnome nautilus could?
[16:37] <BluesKaj> mr44 items ..like ?
[16:38] <mr_44> BluesKaj Files folders
[16:38] <Ashael> ActionParsnip: installed all those packages, File-roller simply crashes whenever i try to open it or extract a file in a dir... i get a blank window with the title, which then crashes after a few seconds.
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> hoijui: Try:    echo "options ath9k nohwcrypt=1" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/ath9k.conf > /dev/null
[16:39] <Ashael> and i can't even find 7zip anywhere although it's installed...
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> Ashael: you won't. Just use file roller and it will extract it
[16:39] <rumpe1> Ashael, 7zip itself has no gui afaik
[16:40] <Ashael> well, file roller crashes.
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> Ashael: there isn't a specific GUI app for 7zip
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> Ashael: try using unp :)
[16:40] <Ashael> k np
[16:40] <Ashael> what do you mean?
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> Ashael: use the command: unp    to extract the file
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> Ashael: unp filename
[16:41] <hoijui> ActionParsnip: that turns of hardware encryption? if so.. that sounds like a good shot.
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> hoijui: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/ar928x-detected-by-ubuntu-but-no-access-points-are-visible-694984/
[16:41] <Ashael> k un momento
[16:41] <hoijui> i am able to get online at home relatively well, but at uni it hardly works
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> hoijui: its easy to undo too, just delete the conf file. Reboot to test
[16:41] <BluesKaj> mr_44, yes , justb drag them dolphin unto the desktop
[16:41] <hoijui> ok, thanks! :-)
[16:41] <BluesKaj> from dolphn
[16:41] <hoijui> i am at home now.. but i will test it tomorrow!
[16:42] <Ashael> ActionParsnip: i get this: "WARNING: There were errors while processing files!" and nothing else.
[16:45] <bdu> I am using Kubuntu on Lenovo T60. However my Wireless connection can not be activated. Any idea?
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> Ashael: is the archive healthy? Is there an MD5sum or SHA5sum
[16:46] <rumpe1> bdu, have you tried "sudo rfkill unblock all" (maybe even after a cold start)?
[16:46] <Ububuntu> Ubuntu 12.10 freeze problem...How do I fix?
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> bdu: what wifi chip does it use?
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> Ububuntu: have you tested your RAM?
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> bdu: are you fully updated?
[16:47] <Ashael> ActionParsnip: i tried it on several different archives - zip, 7z, tar.gz. same with all.
[16:47] <bdu> ActionParsnip, fully updated
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> Ashael: what is the output  of:  lsb_release -sc
[16:47] <Ububuntu> ActionParsnip, how do i test?
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> bdu: and my first question?
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> Ububuntu: hold SHIFT at boot and select memtest
[16:48] <bdu> ActionParsnip, 03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection (rev 02)
[16:48] <Ashael> ActionParsnip: quantal
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> Ububuntu: run it about 16 mns, if you see RED, it bad RAM
[16:48] <PatrickC> ok, question.. anyone know what "/bin/bash/A" is suppose to be?
[16:48] <gustav__> I'm having small freezes. Sounds studdering. What could it be?
[16:48] <Ububuntu> thanks, any next steps
[16:48] <fixxxermet> I'm looking for a recommendation for an ubuntu book.  Gave my father a computer with Ubuntu 12.04, and it is his first computer...  So he needs help.
[16:49] <Slart> PatrickC: /bin/bash is a directory on your system? weird...
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> PatrickC: what is the output of:  file /bin/bash/A
[16:49] <PatrickC> Slart: my error is "/bin/bash: A: command not found"
[16:49] <mr_44> BluesKaj I'm not familiar with KDE so have no idea if KDE's desktop works similar to GNome. I installed the dolphin and replaced Nautilus. Everything works fine except - my desktop not active - no items on it and no right click  and i cant move anything on it. So i try to understand - is it something wrong with settings or Dolphin shouldn't do it at all
[16:49] <PatrickC> ActionParsnip: /bin/bash: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.15, stripped
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> bdu: if you run:   sudo modprobe iwl3945     does it start working?
[16:49] <Slart> PatrickC: ah.. something is trying to run a command using bash.. the command being "A" and bash responds that there is no such command
[16:50] <crizis> mr_44, nautilus handles the desktop in gnome
[16:50] <Slart> PatrickC: what are you trying to run when you get this error?
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> PatrickC: you said (and I said): /bin/bash/A    not /bin/bash
[16:50] <crizis> mr_44, dolphin is just a file manager, it does not handle desktop in kde
[16:50] <PatrickC> Slart: i'm trying to run A arm -T multi -C none -n "CWM tenderloin Multiboot" -d out/target/product/tenderloin/kernel: out/target/product/tenderloin/recovery.img
[16:50] <Slart> PatrickC: my immediate guess would be a script used with filename containing spaces
[16:50] <PatrickC> and ActionParsnip: /bin/bash/A: ERROR: cannot open `/bin/bash/A' (Not a directory)
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> bdu: I have the same NIC in my Dell Lat D420
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> PatrickC: then in answer to your question, it is nothing. It doesn't exist
[16:50] <Slart> PatrickC: I'm guessing you got that off some webpage or readme file, right?
[16:51] <PatrickC> Slart: in the output of trying to compile an android kernel
[16:51] <bdu> ActionParsnip, No it doesn't.
[16:51] <Slart> PatrickC: sure the A is supposed to be there?
[16:51] <PatrickC> Slart: almost 100% sure
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> bdu: do you have a switch to enable and disable the wifi?
[16:51] <mr_44> crizis Can i replace the nautilus with something that handles the desktop?
[16:51] <bdu> ActionParsnip, WireLess Adapter not availale it says in the network manager.
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> bdu: did you define the IP addressing in /etc/network/interfaces at all?
[16:52] <crizis> sure, but don't ask with what :P
[16:52] <cannonball> PatrickC: google for some of the output a line or two or three before that line.  See if anybody else has quoted that same block of text and whether it references the 'A' or not.
[16:52] <bdu> ActionParsnip, let me check. It is not my laptop. From my colleague. He asked me today to install Linux for him.
[16:52] <crizis> if you want "gnome" to function, then you can't really replace nautilus on desktop
[16:52] <Slart> PatrickC: but you're not typing that in yourself? it's from the output of some kind of make/automake/configure script?
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> bdu: do you dual boot the system?
[16:52] <PatrickC> Slart: yes. it's in a makefile
[16:53] <L3top> PatrickC: : /bin/bash is a binary... not a directory... where are you coming up with /bin/bash/A ?
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> bdu: if you have addressing set for the wifi in /etc/network/interfaces then network manager cannot touch it. Its easier to use the GUI app in this case
[16:53] <bdu> ActionParsnip, can not find any WLAN button. Could it be the ThinkVantage button?
[16:53] <PatrickC> L3top: it's referenced in a makefile
[16:53] <L3top> can I see it as it exists in the makefile?
[16:54] <bdu> ActionParsnip, no. Did a clean install of Kubuntu occupying all of the space.
[16:54] <Slart> PatrickC: ok, I've got a vague guess here..   the script might look something like this    $SOMEVARIABLE -A arm ..... and $SOMEVARIABLE is supposed to be a program of some kind needed for compiling this.. but for some reason this variable is empty and it then tries to run -A arm and so on
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> bdu: it;s a T60 you say?
[16:54] <PatrickC> Slart: that might be possible!
[16:54] <PatrickC> L3top: lemme look for it
[16:54] <mr_44> crizis ;) and still i try to  Do u have some ideas? :D
[16:54] <Slart> PatrickC: check if you've got all the required packages installed.. there might be something missing
[16:54] <bdu> ActionParsnip, T60
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> bdu: Tried Fn + F5 (look at the little icon.....)
[16:56] <bdu> ActionParsnip, tried it. Still no.
[16:56] <Slart> PatrickC: from google I found something that looks like this $MKIMAGE -A arm -T multi -C none -n 'test-multi-image' -d    $MKIMAGE might be a tool to create an image-file
[16:56] <bdu> ActionParsnip, it brings up the network manager, but no WLAN networks in sight.
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> bdu: try:  sudo iwlist unblock all
[16:56] <PatrickC> Slart: i remember MKIMAGE for something else...
[16:56] <PatrickC> that might be it
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> bdu: if you run:  sudo iwlist scan      do you see SSIDs?
[16:57] <crizis> mr_44, see the light and stick to Unity ;)
[16:57] <bdu> ActionParsnip, sudo iwlist scan
[16:58] <bdu> ActionParsnip, wlan0     Interface doesn't support scanning : Network is down
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> bdu: try: sudo ifup wlan0
[16:59] <bdu> ActionParsnip, Ignoring unknown interface wlan0=wlan0.
[16:59] <DeathAngel74> hi
[17:01] <Slart> DeathAngel74: hello
[17:01] <BluesKaj> mr_44, I'm not familiar with how dolphin works in a unity/gnome environment , installing kubuntu-desktop will solve your problem if you're willing to take the plunge . Then at login you can choose which desktop you wish run .
[17:02] <mr_44> crizis Hahaha))) No way, man. I like the  control panel in the bottom plus 1-click window control and not Unity's left panel  without any options :)
[17:02] <BluesKaj> mr_44, chose which desktop you wish to run
[17:03] <ASHER1> someone please help
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> bdu: I suggest you report a bug
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> ASHER1: what is the issue?
[17:03] <ASHER1> i download filezilla and i try to connect in my ubuntu and i get error
[17:04] <ASHER1>  "ECONNREFUSED - Connection refused by server".
[17:04] <BluesKaj> well , mr_44 then some more research is needed on your part , I don't know why the desktop isn't working properly with dolphin.
[17:04] <bdu> ActionParsnip, I found the problem.
[17:04] <DeathAngel74> is there anyone available to give advice about kernel, i tried 3.2 and 3.1 but they broke my wifi and sound?
[17:04] <willdabeast> For some reason, while in mid session, Ubuntu just logged me out for no reason, any way I could check what caused the issue?
[17:04] <bdu> ActionParsnip, there is a hardware switch for WLAN. Sorry for the trouble and thx a lot for your help. http://www.fixya.com/support/t9069477-in_lenovo_t60_enable_wi_fi
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> bdu: simple thing to check dude....
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> bdu: glad you got the gold
[17:05] <ASHER1> what i need to do?
[17:05] <Slart> willdabeast: when that happens to me it's usually the x server crashing.. you can check the logs /var/log/syslog and /var/log/kern.log for useful messages
[17:05] <DeathAngel74> i have a lenovo g560 with bdcm4313
[17:05] <bdu> ActionParsnip, :)
[17:05] <mr_44> BluesKaj Thanx man. But i prefer Gnome - have no time to learn kde and my notebook could handle only pretty asceticism :) But i really into Dolphin - best file manager for me
[17:06] <BluesKaj> mr_44, it really should work , I know nautilus works well on KDE
[17:07] <crizis> BluesKaj, the thing is, nautilus handles *the desktop* on gnome, and that disappearing is the "problem" here
[17:07] <mr_44> BluesKaj notebook - laptop i mean :)
[17:07] <DeathAngel74> i really screwed up my system last night and had to remove all other kernels besides 2.6.39r4
[17:07] <crizis> mr_44, simpliest "solution" is just to let nautilus handle the desktop and use dolphin as your file manager
[17:08] <SoS> While installing ubuntu server 12.04, the screen goes black and everything stops just after verifying the timezone.
[17:08] <DeathAngel74> the only version of ubuntu that i can install on this laptop is 11.04x64
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> DeathAngel74: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[17:08] <RLW980> 64MB PCI-E HP 5188-1578 NVidia GeForce
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> SoS: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[17:09] <RLW980> Where can I find the drivers for it
[17:09] <DeathAngel74> natty
[17:09] <smethia> can we use skype
[17:09] <SoS> Yeah, I did.
[17:09] <SoS> Installing from Flash drive too.
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> DeathAngel74: Natty is no longer supported
[17:09] <thesadmafioso> SoS: ARe you using the graphical installer or the alternate?
[17:09] <DeathAngel74> grrr
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> RLW980: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[17:09] <SoS> alternate.
[17:10] <DeathAngel74> are there any other irc chats that would be of assistance?
[17:10] <DeathAngel74> servers/channels, i mean
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> DeathAngel74: it went EOL about 2 days ago, sorry. Try a fresh install of Precise for support til 2017 or use Quantal for the latest bells and whistles
[17:10] <willdabeast> thank you slart
[17:10] <lmat> I'm trying to use /usr/bin/jar to list the contents of jar files.
[17:10] <Slart> DeathAngel74: there's always ##linux but do your homework first.. they don't like people who aren't prepared
[17:10] <Slart> willdabeast: you're welcome
[17:10] <lmat> It works when I   jar tf file.jar   but not when I    jar tf *.jar
[17:11] <RLW980> ActionParsnip: Done, what next?
[17:11] <SoS> If the monitor just wouldn't work, then that'd be one thing.
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> RLW980: reboot and the driver will load
[17:11] <SoS> Faulty graphics driver or somesuch.
[17:11] <Slart> lmat: you're aware of what bash does to that command?
[17:11] <SoS> But it worked fine till that point.
[17:11] <DeathAngel74> i'm really stuck and could use some help tho
[17:11] <RLW980> ActionParsnip: Right, Okay
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> lmat: may need a:  for i in *.jar do    blah blah type command
[17:11] <tnelson> What's the equivalent of FreeBSD's `mdconfig -a -t vnode -f some-linux-ext2-partition-I-just-dded-off-a-cf-flash-card.image`?
[17:11] <lmat> Slart: I think so.  if you mean that *.jar is expanded on the line?
[17:11] <mr_44> crizis - yep looks like it's a solution. I was embarrassed with file /usr/share/applications/nautilus-folder-handler.desktop the advice in Howto was to change the executing program from Nau to Dolph. So i considered that dolphin could handle desktop. :)
[17:11] <DeathAngel74> just switched from windows to ubuntu
[17:11] <lmat> ActionParsnip: That's what I'm doing now, but I'm trying to figure out why jar doesn't take multiple files. The synopsis says "files ..."
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> DeathAngel74: why such a old release (natty wasn't that great tbh)
[17:12] <DeathAngel74> laptop config
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> lmat: not sure, bit misleading
[17:12] <DeathAngel74> =crap
[17:12] <lmat> ActionParsnip: Tell me about it ;)
[17:12] <tnelson> Or, er, if I've just dd'd a compact flash card that's reporting two partitions of type 83, so I want to mount them in Linux.
[17:12] <lmat> Slart: Is that what you meant?
[17:12] <Slart> lmat: yes.. so you're actually running   jar tf file1.jar file2.jar file3.jar or whatever the files are named.. that might not be supported by the jar command.. ActionParsnip suggested a workaround if that's the problem
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> DeathAngel74: then install Lubuntu 12.04 and you won't need a powerhouse to run it
[17:12] <DeathAngel74> my wifi won't work if i use 12.04
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> DeathAngel74: tried Quantal?
[17:13] <SoS> DeathAngel74, load up the drivers you need on a flash drive before installing.
[17:13] <DeathAngel74> anything above 11.04, breaks wifi
[17:13] <SoS> Which is actually always a good idea.
[17:13] <lmat> Slart: yeah, the workaround works. I'm wondering about the synopsis of jar which says "files ..."
[17:13] <DeathAngel74> ugh
[17:13] <DeathAngel74> i should have done my homework before trying ubuntu, i suppose
[17:14] <SoS> Doesn't need much homework, usually.
[17:14] <SoS> It's meant to be pain-free.
[17:14] <Slart> lmat: it also says "-f archive   specify archive file name"
[17:14] <PatrickC> Slart: i found the file that uses the -A
[17:14] <SoS> I've done dozens of installations, and this is the first time I've had a problem.
[17:14] <PatrickC> https://www.dropbox.com/s/8ijkp883xuwrf08/uboot-bootimg.mk
[17:14] <DeathAngel74> the main reason i wanted to try ubuntu was to compile cfw for the psp
[17:14] <lmat> Slart: ahh
[17:14] <gustav__> Hi. How do I set max speed step option? Seems like cpufreq-set isn't working.
[17:14] <Slart> PatrickC: great, did you find some way of fixing it?
[17:14] <PatrickC> not yet
[17:18] <kyan> Hello. How can I make Ubuntu 12.10 work and look the way I had Ubuntu 10.10 working/looking? There are a bunch of changes like KRunner is now almost entirely transparent so I can't see it, and the margins on the Plasma Desktop buttons and such are all different. Also I think I did something wrong because dragging the title bars of windows doesn't move them, and I think it's supposed to.
[17:19] <Calinou> did you mean: kubuntu
[17:19] <bazhang> kyan, plasma is Kubuntu
[17:21] <kyan> Calinou, bazhang: I downloaded Ubuntu Studio for the JACK settings and then installed ubuntu-desktop, kubuntu-desktop, and MATE in it.
[17:21] <photofroggy> hey
[17:21] <kyan> Calinou, bazhang: I've tried Unity, MATE, and KDE, and none of them is working.
[17:22] <photofroggy> Ubuntu is being retarded; whenever I plug in my external monitor, ubuntu changes the resolution of my laptop's screen to an unusable state and doesn't display anything on the external one
[17:22] <photofroggy> any ideas?
[17:22] <photofroggy> using HDMI
[17:22] <Calinou> kyan: you forgot xfce 8)
[17:23] <Calinou> photofroggy: blame your manufacturer's drivers
[17:23] <photofroggy> actually, it's not the resolution changing... everything just gets spread up and out
[17:23] <Calinou> what graphics card? free or proprietary drivers?
[17:23] <photofroggy> Calinou: integrated stuff, intel
[17:23] <photofroggy> not sure what drivers
[17:23] <BEPC> Could I get some of you talked into liking my facebook business page for me, I need 22 more people so I can view site stats, I'm tired of waiting on others...too impatient
[17:23] <kyan> Calinou: XFCE came with Ubuntu Studio. I didn't care for it. I like Unity, MATE, or KDE as long as they work. I don't really care which.
[17:24] <dr_willis> photofroggy: seen some laptops need the monitor plugged in at powerup. and/or twiddling with the laptops fn keys to toggle displays
[17:24] <photofroggy> dr_willis: which fn keys?
[17:24] <Calinou> photofroggy: the official intel drivers are free anyway :P
[17:24] <Calinou> no idea, anyawy
[17:24] <Paul92> Hi. I sometimes have to use more terminals, and I wish to can see all at once (yes, I know that I can make windows smaller and put all on screen). Is there any way to have more terminals in one window?
[17:25] <Slart> Paul92: there's screen.. and there's regular tabs in gnome-terminal
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> photofroggy: you could use the displays icon to set the resolution of both screens
[17:25] <jrib> Paul92: you can use tabs.  Or use something like tmux (I recommend) or screen
[17:25] <kyan> Calinou: I had a heavily customised Ubuntu Maverick that I've been using for 2 years now and I only just started trying to switch to 12.10. I have no idea how to make it work and look the same as it used to, which is what I want. I'd like to be using supported software, but not have to relearn how it works and reconfigure it every time a new version comes out.
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> Paul92: if you use Unity, hit SuperL + W
[17:25] <dr_willis> photofroggy: laptops normally have special fn keys. look at your keybord closely
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> kyan: install gnome-panel  log off and select the newly available session
[17:25] <photofroggy> ActionParsnip: No I can't; when I plug in the monitor all the windows are shifted upwards so I can't use them
[17:26] <Calinou> kyan: heh, ubuntu isn't against change at all... probably not the distro for you
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> photofroggy: can't see them at all?
[17:26] <BEPC> https://www.facebook.com/berepairedpc   I would appreciate any posts made there and hit the like button if don't mind. Thanks
[17:26] <photofroggy> another thing; package manager failed to update things, can't find packages at security.ubuntu.com. Bunch of firefox packages
[17:27] <infectedorganism> which would everyone say is more integrated with lubuntu, lxde, and pcmanfm.. ubuntu one, or dropbox?
[17:27] <kyan> Calinou: Hmm. I like the driver support in the kernel... not really interested in compiling myself
[17:27] <dr_willis> Paul92: termintor is a nice terminal app als
[17:27] <photofroggy> it failed the whole process because of this...
[17:27] <kyan> ActionParsnip: Will try...
[17:27] <Osarius> BEPC: Please don't advertise.
[17:27] <photofroggy> ActionParsnip: Can see the bottom inch or so
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> BEPC: please don't spam
[17:27] <meetri> is there a way to relad the xmodmap without logging out?
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> photofroggy: hold ALT and you can drag it down from any point in the Window
[17:27] <wilee-nilee> infectedorganism, This is support not polling. ;)
[17:27] <photofroggy> ActionParsnip: thanks
[17:27] <photofroggy> any idea about the package manager thing?
[17:28] <photofroggy> Did I miss something important?
[17:28] <dr_willis> infectedorganism: bith seem about the same to me.
[17:28] <kyan> ActionParsnip: Don't know if it'll work yet, but thanks :)
[17:28] <Fishscene1> Which channel can I go to to fix my Nickname?
[17:28] <infectedorganism> wilee-nilee, really!? blah..
[17:28] <Gerowen> Question, I just opened Firefox and the couple of bookmarks I'd made since installing 12.10 yesterday are gone.  No bookmarks at all, not even the out-of-the-box ones
[17:28] <infectedorganism> thanks, dr_willis.
[17:28] <photofroggy> meh, only firefox failed
[17:28] <dr_willis> Fishscene1: try #freenode
[17:29] <Fishscene1> Thanks
[17:30] <GRMrGecko> I've got a all in one system which is displaying "checking battery status" and rebooting the system at random intervals. The system is up to date, someone here suggested that it is the graphics card which is doing this and asked me to push escape whenever it happens, done so and nothing happens.
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> GRMrGecko: what video chip do you use?
[17:31] <GRMrGecko> ActionParsnip: Let me remote in for you
[17:32] <ironhalik> Anyone tried installing gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad:i386? I get unresolvable dependencies, can't use PiTiVi :>
[17:33] <PatrickC> does anyone know where to get the file "mkimage"
[17:33] <PatrickC> the package won't help me
[17:33] <PatrickC> need the file
[17:33] <GRMrGecko> ActionParsnip: Intel Corporation N10 Family Integrated Graphics Controller
[17:33] <BEPC> Srry for spamming didn't mean to offend anybody, I did ask first, should have replied via PM instead. Thanks for those who replied. bepc
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> GRMrGecko: try the boot option: nomodeset
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> ironhalik: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> !find mkimage
[17:34] <GRMrGecko> ActionParsnip: Does "checking battery status" make sense to you? To me it makes me think that is is an issue with the hardware being from an laptop.
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> PatrickC: ^
[17:34] <ironhalik> ActionParsnip: quantal
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> GRMrGecko: yes, you'll get that, then the login manager loads, sometimes intel GPUs need the option to run ok
[17:35] <meetri> is there a way to reload the xmodmap without logging out?
[17:35] <GRMrGecko> ActionParsnip: Is there a way for me to change that option remotely? The computers are 5 miles from here.
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> ironhalik: if you run:   apt-cache policy streamer0.10-plugins-bad:i386;sudo apt-get install streamer0.10-plugins-bad:i386    can you please use http://pasie.org (or similar) to pastebin the text
[17:36] <llutz> meetri: "xmodmap <yourmapfile>"
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> GRMrGecko: if you press CTRL+ALT+F1 do you get a prompt?
[17:36] <GRMrGecko> ActionParsnip: 5 miles from here means nothing to you?
[17:36] <GRMrGecko> I am on ssh
[17:37] <meetri> Ilutz, that was too easy! thanks! i am so happy now. :)
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> GRMrGecko: you can add the option in /etc/default/grub    with the other options:  quiet splash    then run:  sudo update-grub
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> GRMrGecko: calm down
[17:37] <GRMrGecko> cGRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT
[17:37] <Homeslice> Hey peoples. Can someone tell me what the best screenrecorder for Ubuntu is?
[17:37] <GRMrGecko> -c
[17:38] <ironhalik> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1318554/
[17:38] <GRMrGecko> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="splash quiet nomodeset"
[17:38] <Gerowen> Hey everybody, coming back to Ubuntu after not having used it for a while, is there a way to sync my Firefox bookmarks with Ubuntu One?
[17:39] <crizis> firefox has built-in sync
[17:39] <wilee-nilee> Gerowen, FF has a built in sync.
[17:39] <fishscene> I am trying to start VLC automatically (without having to log in) when Ubuntu 12.04 server boots. I've added the command to "/etc/rc.local", However, I suspect VLC cannot start because it is being executed as "root". Is there a way to execute vlc as a user?
[17:40] <magn3ts> "nautilus is the best file manager for ubuntu" <- the funniest joke I've heard today.
[17:40] <rumpe1> fishscene, hm... do you want to start vlc without X?
[17:40] <Pici> !best
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> GRMrGecko: yes, save the new file, close the editor and run:   sudo update-grub
[17:40] <Slart> Paul92: fishscene sudo?
[17:40] <crizis> fishscene, su username -c vlc
[17:40] <crizis> &
[17:40] <fishscene> rumpe1: Yes, I'm using "cvlc"
[17:41] <Slart> oops.. sorry Paul92, wasn't meant for you
[17:41] <photofroggy> ok so things are being more retarded
[17:41] <crizis> fishscene, remember the & so it starts at background :)
[17:41] <GRMrGecko> ActionParsnip: I'll try this, thanks
[17:41] <fishscene> Slart: vlc won't execute with sudo (smart!), crizis: I'll check it out. Should I also use nohup?
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> crizis: can always CTRL+Z then run:  bg
[17:42] <photofroggy> if I plug in the monitor, nothing is displayed there, and on my laptop's monitor, if I try to resize any windows, it doesn't let me make things taller than less than half the screen size
[17:42] <fishscene> For example: su username -c nohup cvlc $source --sout $destination --sout-keep &
[17:42] <crizis> ActionParsnip, he wants it to startup, to rc.local ..
[17:42] <photofroggy> so I don't know what in the hell it thinks is going on
[17:42] <photofroggy> leaving the monitor switched off etc., everything works as expected
[17:42] <Slart> fishscene: it won't run as root.. that doesn't mean you can't use sudo with it.. sudo can run something by any user.. not just root, although that is the most commonly used option
[17:43] <photofroggy> it'd be nice to be able to use my stuff, though
[17:43] <ActionParsnip> crizis: oh then you definately want it backgrounded, or it will hang the boot
[17:43] <ironhalik> ActionParsnip: any thoughts? Maybe there's a ppa that would resolve the dependency issues?
[17:44] <photofroggy> any ideas on how to fix this nonsense?
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> ironhalik: did you add the medibuntu repo?
[17:44] <ironhalik> nope
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> ironhalik: sudo -E wget --output-document=/etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/$(lsb_release -cs).list && sudo apt-get --quiet update && sudo apt-get --yes --quiet --allow-unauthenticated install medibuntu-keyring && sudo apt-get --quiet update
[17:45] <bilal_> hi
[17:45] <bilal_> hlw anyone?
[17:45] <interntN00b> hello
[17:46] <photofroggy> ok, ubuntu seems to be incapable of properly handling moving the relative positions of the monitors
[17:46] <interntN00b> does Ubuntu index the content of pdf files?
[17:46] <bilal_> i am new here what is this all about?
[17:46] <photofroggy> if I line up the top boundaries windows are displayed in the correct place.
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> bilal_: this is the official support channel for ubuntu
[17:46] <newsham> hi.  I have ubuntu 10.04. I had previously manually installed the NVidia drivers. Now if I uninstall it and boot into X, the screen goes completely black when it goes into X mode. If I boot into a text login I'm fine (and can reinstall the NVidia custom driver).
[17:46] <newsham> I would like to restore the original X setup if possible
[17:46] <bilal_> then i think i am at right place...
[17:47] <newsham> dmesg indicates that the kernel driver crashes when it goes into X after the NVidia driver has been uninstalled
[17:47] <ryan_turner> Hi, Im running 12.10 64-bit. My school has a PPTP vpn. Im trying to connect to it, but it's failing. How do I access the logs showing me what is actually failing? Any tips?
[17:47] <photofroggy> dr_willis: What are the fn keys you mentioned supposed to actually do?
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> !vpn | ryan_turner
[17:47] <jansonexz> hi
[17:48] <bilal_> i am using 12.04 but i get an error message in update manager when i click check for updates. any help?
[17:48] <photofroggy> dr_willis: I have an fn key featuring a square with a line either side
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> newsham: Lucid is dead in April 2013, why such and old release?
[17:48] <photofroggy> doesn't seem to do anything
[17:48] <ryan_turner> ActionParsnip: I've set it up using that. I tried to do it using command line as well as per that doc, but it just hangs in the console.
[17:48] <bilal_> ?
[17:48] <dr_willis> photofroggy: everylaptop ive seen has a dozen of them. one should be toggle displays
[17:48] <ironhalik> ActionParsnip: It did resolve some packages that PiTiVi needed but gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad:i386 is still being installed :(
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> ryan_turner: can you ping the VPN endpoint?
[17:49] <jansonexz> do someone here listen to metal?
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> ironhalik: are there bugs reported?
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> jansonexz: yes but that's not Ubuntu support related
[17:50] <ryan_turner> ActionParsnip: the gateway? I did not try that. I'm not on my desktop currently. It seems like it could be a timeout, as it takes about 30 secs or so for it to fail. I should've tried that :/
[17:50] <ironhalik> ActionParsnip: Sec, let me check :)
[17:50] <kev^> quick question... is there a way i can shutdown but temporarily tell grub which OS to boot into when shutting down? ie, say im in ubuntu and i wanna shutdown and restart into windows, but i wanna be AFK so i don't have to select the option. any way i can do this?
[17:51] <newsham> action: thats what it is.
[17:51] <newsham> [   37.476566] Pid: 2101, comm: Xorg Not tainted 2.6.32-44-generic #98-Ubuntu 29
[17:51] <newsham> 01CTO
[17:51] <newsham> [   37.476568] RIP: 0010:[<ffffffffa054391b>]  [<ffffffffa054391b>] nv50_mem_vm_
[17:51] <newsham> bind_linear+0x1fb/0x2d0 [nouveau]
[17:51] <FloodBot1> newsham: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> kev^: check:  man grub-reboot
[17:51] <kev^> great thanks
[17:51] <deadmund> kev^: You could write a basic script that edits the grub config files, re-installs grub to the MBR, and then reboots.  But there is no pre-built tool that does this to my knowledge.
[17:52] <deadmund> or there is
[17:52] <deadmund> :P
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> newsham: what Nvidia GPU do you use?
[17:52] <GRMrGecko> ActionParsnip: What if I forgot to run sudo update-grub?
[17:52] <GRMrGecko> and just rebooted
[17:52] <newsham> I dont know off hand what the gpu is
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> GRMrGecko: then no change is made to grub, you haven't told it to reread the configs
[17:52] <GRMrGecko> ok
[17:52] <photofroggy> brb upgrading to 11.10
[17:53] <ryan_turner> ActionParsnip: where can I view the logs of the VPN connection attempts?
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> newsham: run:  sudo lshw -C display    what is the product line for the card?
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> ryan_turner: /var/log  maybe....
[17:53] <newsham> NVS 3100M
[17:53] <ironhalik> ActionParsnip: yeah, it's reported for 12.04. I confirmed it, via comment, for 12.10 - should I file a new bug report for 12.10?
[17:53] <GRMrGecko> ActionParsnip: Will I need to reboot the system again after this?
[17:53] <ryan_turner> ActionParsnip: Ok, thanks. Ill check there when I get back home. I really appreciate the help you're providing. You rock.
[17:53] <llutz> kev^: "man grub-reboot"   should help
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> GRMrGecko: after you run:  sudo update-grub     yes
[17:54]  * thesadmafioso quietly sits and learns things by listening to ActionParsnip do their thing
[17:54] <newsham> its currently running with the vendor nvidia driver.  at one point it worked without that driver.  now when i uninstall the nvidia driver, it crashes starting up X (the machine doesnt crash, just the display driver)
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> ironhalik: I'd just confirm it in Quantal, I don't think a new bug is needed
[17:54] <dr_willis> kev^: grub used to have a "saved" option to remember tge last selected os. and it allowed you to select a new default via the cli. check the grub2 docs. see if its mentioned
[17:54] <ironhalik> ActionParsnip: thanks
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> ryan_turner: I try :)
[17:55] <GRMrGecko> ActionParsnip: thanks for the help
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> newsham: you may need to run:  sudo nvidia-xconfig    to make the driver load but I suggest a clean install of Precise which is supported til 2017
[17:55] <jansonexz> who wants to chat with me?
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> jansonexz: try in #ubuntu-offtopic for chit-chat. This is support only
[17:56] <jansonexz> ok
[17:56] <seb_> hello
[17:56] <dr_willis> jello
[17:56] <newsham> action: I had removed the custom xorg.conf completely.  it still crashed
[17:59] <jhaldson> anyone have recommendation for a good vpn service (pay) ?
[17:59] <yash> hi all
[17:59] <alo21> hi all
[17:59] <crizis> jhaldson, ipredator
[17:59] <alo21> where I can find uds-r mark shuttleworth keynote video?
[18:01] <wilee-nilee> alo21, https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=uds-r+mark+shuttleworth+keynote+video&gbv=1&sei=9RWQUMnUGOiW0QXr5oHgAQ
[18:02] <Ozzyboshi> Hi chat
[18:02] <mike_> tify
[18:03] <alo21> wilee-nilee: thanks... I was looking for on YouTube
[18:03] <GRMrGecko> ActionParsnip: After running that, ubuntu doesn't seem to know resolutions and it uses 1024x768. Is there a way to force it to be 1360x768 (or whatever the resolution was). If this fixes our issue, I don't see why we can't compromise it.
[18:07] <deadmund> Does the nexus 7 have an SD card slot?
[18:07] <llutz> !ot | deadmund: no
[18:07] <deadmund> oh sorry
[18:07] <deadmund> wrong channel
[18:08] <YokoBR> hey, guys... i can't make outlook express work through my ubuntu server
[18:08] <bkfitz> anyone familiar with Mod_evasive
[18:09] <bkfitz> for httpd
[18:09] <bkfitz> trying to get it installed on 10.04
[18:09] <YokoBR> hey guys, stahp...
[18:09] <YokoBR> why can't i use outlook behind my ubuntu server?
[18:09] <YokoBR> i've already opened smtp and pop3 doors.
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> GRMrGecko: not sure dude, least you have some sort of desktop
[18:10] <gordonjcp> YokoBR: does outlook support smtp and pop3?  These days you should be using IMAP anyway
[18:10] <gordonjcp> YokoBR: POP3 has been obsolete for about 20 years
[18:10] <bkfitz> YokoBR: was just going to suggest IMAP also
[18:10] <YokoBR> it's on pop3 :(
[18:11] <YokoBR> it's an external mail server
[18:11] <bkfitz> YokoBR: are you using UFW
[18:11] <YokoBR> it's not my choice, but my client's... so i can't change it.
[18:11] <YokoBR> well, just ubuntu and iptables.
[18:11] <bkfitz> YokoBR: and nmap verified that 110 is open
[18:12] <fishscene> crizis: Thanks for your help, it is now successfully running. I had to fix the syntax though: su -c "command in quotes here" - (username)
[18:12] <crizis> :)
[18:13] <bkfitz> Anyone successfully installed mod_evasive on ubuntu?
[18:13] <saleem> hi, i have 12.04+lightdm+openbox+pcmanfm : when i try to click/mount any other partitions listed in pcmanfm i get error Authentication is required and no partitions on my system either mount or open: what can be the reason? any hint please
[18:14] <YokoBR> hey, bkfitz, 110/tcp   open   pop3
[18:15] <terry>  saleem Hard telling but you might run pcmanfm from terminal to see what errors you might get.
[18:15] <saleem> i installed all the possible packages i can think of to automount partitions
[18:15] <saleem> ok terry , i can try that
[18:15] <bkfitz> YokoBR:  how are you running outlook on ubuntu?
[18:16] <menace> hey, my pidgin does not always start with my userlist-interface in unity. any idea how to fix this (without unity integration^^)?
[18:16] <YokoBR> bkfitz, there's an window$ computer inside my zentyal network, trying to access by pop3 an external server
[18:16] <terry> saleem: Are you using the first user? (The one that was created during install?)
[18:16] <saleem> yes terry , my default user
[18:17] <bkfitz> YokoBR: do a tcpdump when you try to POP
[18:17] <thomedy> is ther e a flex development ide in ubuntu
[18:17] <jhaldson> crizis: i'll check it out, thx
[18:18] <terry> saleem: Is pcmanfm not giving any sort of error on it's own?
[18:18] <menace> sry, just restarted pidgin..
[18:18] <saleem> no terry , pcmanfm is working fine as such
[18:18] <WebAdmin> hi all
[18:19] <WebAdmin> i need to create a wizard for my client to modify a section of the page that I have created, i want something simple. Any idea?
[18:19] <saleem> i even created .xinitrc file but that did not work either
[18:20] <terry> saleem: What is your OS?
[18:20] <terry> version....
[18:20] <saleem> ubuntu 12.04
[18:21] <terry> is pcmanfm asking for a password?
[18:22] <saleem> nope i disabled it in sudoers myself
[18:22] <smftre> is there anything I can run on a ubuntu server to test all hardware is performing correctly?
[18:22] <smftre> a kind of diagnostics?
[18:22] <PatrickC> Slart: i found the issue :D i just defined the path to MKIMAGE in the source that required it heh
[18:22] <PatrickC> -A is a switch for MKIMAGE
[18:23] <Slart> PatrickC: ah.. nice =)
[18:23] <samurai> hey all
[18:23] <PatrickC> not out of the woods completely on the compiling, but that issue is solved :)
[18:23] <Slart> PatrickC: odd that the configuration scripts didn't do that automagically..
[18:23] <PatrickC> thanks for the help Slart!
[18:23] <PatrickC> yeah, it is weird
[18:23] <Slart> PatrickC: you're welcome
[18:23] <samurai> I have lost the app-overview icon on my Gnome-shell (3.6) dock in Ubuntu 12.10
[18:23] <samurai> does anyone know how to re-add it
[18:25] <saleem> terry, i had same kind of issue with openbox on arch linux but creating .xinitrc file with exec ck-launch-session dbus-launch openbox-session entry mounts all my system partitions but this thing is not working on ubuntu
[18:28] <smftre> i checked my /var/log/messages and it says that "checktime reached, running e2fsck is recommended" <- is this something I should do and how?
[18:29] <ageis> I have problems with realtek r8169 card. 10.04-->12.04 broke it. i've tried compiling and installing the latest module, and linux-backports-modules-net, but i can't get it to load the version i want.
[18:29] <ageis> modinfo shows the correct version but ethtool -i shows that an older version of the module is being loaded
[18:30] <ageis> i'd also like to force it to load r8168 instead of r8169 but thats not happening either, even with blacklisting.
[18:30] <ageis> is there any way i can force to load a specific version of a kernel module... ?
[18:30] <YokoBR> ah, i give up :(
[18:30] <YokoBR> ubuntu, stahp...
[18:34] <kode_> Whenever I install for all the updates from Update Manager, I always get "Package operation failed " message window at the end of update process. It says "The installation or removal of a software package failed ". What should I do not to get this message window ?
[18:34] <saleem> brb
[18:36] <kode_> Anyone having an answer??
[18:36] <kode_> Whenever I install for all the updates from Update Manager, I always get "Package operation failed " message window at the end of update process. It says "The installation or removal of a software package failed ". What should I do not to get this message window ?
[18:37] <wizrd> kode_: you could try to select another mirror
[18:37] <ps2> Chat chalenge accepted
[18:41] <infectedorganism> if you compile a program from source, is there an easy way to "uninstall" it after?
[18:41] <valnour> make uninstall
[18:42] <gordonjcp> infectedorganism: not really, no
[18:42] <crizis> or use 'checkinstall' to make .deb for it
[18:42] <crizis> instead of 'make install' -> 'sudo checkinstall -D -y'
[18:42] <gordonjcp> crizis: yup
[18:42] <infectedorganism> thanks. i'll read up on those to learn a bit more.
[18:47] <samurai>  is there a channel devoted to ubuntu-remix
[18:48] <trism> samurai: #ubuntu-gnome
[18:49] <NorthByNorthWest> Hi all... I just breathed new life into my girlfriends old Siemens Lifebook S7110... everything works perfect except sound...
[18:50] <NorthByNorthWest> Ive googled and searched the ubuntu forums but not found a solution that works
[18:50] <NorthByNorthWest> Sometimes the audio works after boot
[18:50] <NorthByNorthWest> Sometimes I can start some youtube clip and have audio
[18:51] <NorthByNorthWest> Sometimes the speakers starts a snapping sound every fifth second or so
[18:52] <ooooo> can someone explain to me how to use wine to run ms office?
[18:52] <Erik_D> NorthByNorthWest: Sounds like crappy / faulty speakers
[18:53] <Erik_D> NorthByNorthWest: not so much software
[18:53] <Erik_D> ooooo: look it up on wine appdb
[18:53] <gordonjcp> ooooo: #winehq
[18:53] <NorthByNorthWest> Erik_D: hmm.... dont think headphone plugs work either...
[18:53] <Erik_D> ooooo: there should be instructions there
[18:53] <fairuz_> NorthByNorthWest: Have you tried plug an earphone? to see if it's not the speaker?
[18:54] <NorthByNorthWest> fairuz_:  yes... when hooking up the laptop to the tv
[18:54] <NorthByNorthWest> ill fetch a pair and double check
[18:55] <Guest50948> I am having trouble with GIMP, I am trying to use the font Sans Italic but on the actual page it is showing normal Sans font, other fonts work..
[18:55] <samurai> thanks trism!
[18:57] <vfw> Guest50948: Sans Italic must be broken
[18:58] <vfw> Guest50948: What version of Gimp is it?
[18:59] <riktking> hi, im looking for a program that will be able to sort all my music out into folders, based on the information in the ID3 tags. does anyone know of such a program?
[18:59] <Erik_D> riktking: try easytag maybe?
[18:59] <Erik_D> Actually, I'm pretty sure it does.
[18:59] <jrib> riktking: that sounds like something fun to write!  easytag is the only program that I know of that may be able to do that
[19:00] <riktking> jrib: Erik_D thanks guys!
[19:00] <NorthByNorthWest> no audio in headphones... when I start the youtube clip the headphones start hizzing and that clicking noise starts every fifth second in the laptop speakers again...
[19:01] <BlackFate> NorthByNorthWest, since when?
[19:01] <NorthByNorthWest> BlackFate: the computer is jsut fresh installed with 12.10
[19:01] <NorthByNorthWest> BlackFate: removed XP,, sound worked there though...
[19:02] <wizrd> NorthByNorthWest: look if you got rhythmbox running. I had a similar problem. After killiing the rhythmbox process i got it working
[19:02] <NorthByNorthWest> wizrd: whats the easiest way to do that?
[19:02] <wizrd> open terminal
[19:02] <Erik_D> NorthByNorthWest: run top in terminal
[19:03] <BlackFate> NorthByNorthWest, open your terminal and run "alsamixer". make sure your volumes are maxed out.
[19:03] <NorthByNorthWest> BlackFate: done that...
[19:04] <wizrd> as Erik_D said: run top
[19:04] <wizrd> check if rhythmbox is running
[19:04] <wizrd> if so: killall rhythmbox
[19:04] <_cronus_> NorthByNorthWest, try changing the output in sound preferences, maybe to analog stereo output
[19:06] <NorthByNorthWest> Erik_D: how do i find the process name? got 'stop: Unknown job: rhythmbox'
[19:07] <Erik_D> NorthByNorthWest: I'm not actually sure what rhythmbox is called
[19:07] <BlackFate> NorthByNorthWest, pkill -9 hythmb
[19:08] <Solid-State> OMG STEAM FOR LINUXXXXXXX
[19:08] <Justice> Hello
[19:08] <Erik_D> NorthByNorthWest: Oh, I think you have to use the PID
[19:08] <Erik_D> NorthByNorthWest: If you are using the 'k' option from top
[19:09] <blip-> hid3, there was some package that install development stuff like g++, anyone recall the name ?
[19:09] <blip-> It's not dev-tools
[19:10] <NorthByNorthWest> Well... ran the 'pkill -9 hythmb' but that didnt help
[19:11] <bekks> ps -ef | grep rythm
[19:11] <NorthByNorthWest> started the gui for viewing processes but cant find anything looking like rhythmbox
[19:11] <NorthByNorthWest> thanks bekks
[19:11] <bekks> Then take the PID of that process and kill it.
[19:11] <fromhet> Hey! I'm in the process of getting an ultrabook - do you have any tips on what to avoid for best ubuntu compability?
[19:12] <NorthByNorthWest> got
[19:12] <NorthByNorthWest> mathias   6773  5915  0 20:11 pts/0    00:00:00 grep --color=auto rythm
[19:12] <NorthByNorthWest> which number is the PID?
[19:12] <Erik_D> NorthByNorthWest: 6773
[19:12] <bekks> NorthByNorthWest: 6773
[19:12] <NorthByNorthWest> thanks! :)
[19:12] <bekks> 5915 is the PID of the parent process
[19:12] <Sam-L> Afternoon guys, I'm having trouble with my keyboard. Only backspace and the "menu" key work
[19:12] <Erik_D> there are titles at the top
[19:12] <urgodfather> is anyone familiar with installing ubuntu on arm processors?
[19:12] <katre> hei
[19:13] <urgodfather> more specifically... how would i go about installing ubuntu on an ARMv6
[19:14] <Sam-L> I've been looking around online all day and am still having trouble with it. Anybody got some ideas to try?
[19:14] <NorthByNorthWest> uhm.... killed it.... popping still there... ran the ps -ef |grep rythm again and got:
[19:14] <NorthByNorthWest> mathias   6808  5915  0 20:13 pts/0    00:00:00 grep --color=auto rythm
[19:14] <bekks> NorthByNorthWest: Thats the "grep" process searching for "rythm" :)
[19:14] <coz_> hey guys, on 12.10 what is the command for the restart dialog UI?  I used to use   /usr/lib/indicator-session/gtk-logout-helper --shutdown  but that now just brings up the "shutdown dialog UI"
[19:14] <NorthByNorthWest> new process got spawned immediately after I killed the first one?
[19:14] <wizrd> NorthByNorthWest: killall rythm
[19:14] <bekks> NorthByNorthWest: Nope.
[19:14] <bekks> wizrd: Not necessary :)
[19:15] <Sam-L> shutdown -r now?
[19:15] <NorthByNorthWest> yes... but i ran pkill 6773 before the ps
[19:15] <coz_> mm let me try that Sam-L
[19:15] <NorthByNorthWest> ill try the killall...
[19:15] <wizrd> bekks: missread
[19:15] <bekks> NorthByNorthWest: And now you can only see the grep process searching for rythm.
[19:15] <bekks> NorthByNorthWest: No rythmbox running anymore.
[19:15] <wizrd> must be tired
[19:15] <coz_> Sam-L,  that doesnt seem to do it :(
[19:15] <Sam-L> aighty
[19:15] <xektrum> Hello everyone, I'm testing ubuntu 12.10 and found that there's two entries in system settings for Online Accounts, is this how is supposed to be ? in this case what is the different between them ?
[19:16] <xektrum> *difference*
[19:16] <NorthByNorthWest> yep.... 'killall rythm' found no process
[19:16] <VonWhistler> Hi guys, trying to setup a kickstart file here on 12.04. The tutorial I am following is telling me to edit a text.cfg file in the isolinux directory of the extracted contents of the .iso, however this file does not exist. Has the name / location changed in 12.04. Thanks
[19:16] <bekks> NorthByNorthWest: that command will NOT find a process named "/usr/bin/rythmbox". ;)
[19:16] <bekks> NorthByNorthWest: As I said - you have no rythmbox running anymore.
[19:17] <coz_> xektrum,  seems one is for typical accounts , flickr etc , the other for personalization of non typical accounts
[19:17] <gordonjcp> helps if you spell "rhythm" correctly
[19:17] <bekks> gordonjcp: ;)
[19:17] <NorthByNorthWest> so killing Rhythmbox didnt help then...
[19:17] <NorthByNorthWest> my guess is that i need to find a linux driver specific for Realtek ALC262 and install that...?
[19:18] <bekks> NorthByNorthWest: It didnt help on what exactly?
[19:18] <xektrum> coz_,ok so that means my system installation is not wrong (i.e duplicated things) right?
[19:18] <coz_> xektrum,  nope, its fine, I just clean installed 12.10 yesterday.. same indications here :)
[19:18] <xektrum> coz_ thanks ;)
[19:18] <coz_> xektrum,  no problem
[19:19] <steven-> is there any way to get the tray icons back to tray in gnome3.6?
[19:19] <VonWhistler> i think i found my answer. its now txt.cfg
[19:19] <NorthByNorthWest> bekks: well.... no audio... and a intermittent popping soundin the speakers
[19:19] <NorthByNorthWest> bekks: but i get that drum sound when the log in screen is loaded
[19:19] <ryan_turner> Hi, I had an issue earlier with a VPN connection (PPTP)
[19:19] <katre> Hello!
[19:20] <ryan_turner> I've got some logs.
[19:20] <ryan_turner> http://pastebin.com/eBtf5pKv
[19:20] <ryan_turner> that's my syslog as I try to connect to a pptp VPN.
[19:21] <wizrd> NorthByNorthWest: i don't think it's a driver issue because you get the drum roll
[19:21] <NorthByNorthWest> just found this, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2063728, reading...
[19:22] <glauco291> guys when I roll mouse scroll it down or up so much (ubuntu 12.04), how can I turn it more smooth?
[19:22] <wizrd> looks more like there are several programs/processes that want to use the soundsystem
[19:23] <ryan_turner> glauco291, Currently Gnome offers no way for a user to adjust a mouse wheel speed
[19:23] <katre> what is that ? how i can use this xChat systeme ?
[19:23] <coz_> glauco291,  I am going to assume  if you go to system settings  ,, mouse,, the acceleration sliders might help
[19:23] <Bauer1> guys, I have a problem during upgrade from 11.10 to 12: http://pastebin.com/dXX9tqG7 - in short, some kernel issue, and in addition, I cant seem to install the kernel, it doesnt "see" the sources I've added
[19:24] <MonkeyDust> katre  type /join #ubuntu-offtopic or so to learn IRC basics
[19:24] <coz_> katre,  well what is it you want to know? also you might want to go to the #xchat channel,, to do that ,, where you type here.. type   /join #xchat
[19:24] <NorthByNorthWest> no real help there
[19:24] <NorthByNorthWest> except forreverting to older linuxkernel
[19:24] <Chotaz> I need some help configuring the ssh server for key authentication.
[19:25] <coz_> once again, if anyone knows, on 12.10 what is the command for the restart dialog UI?  I used to use   /usr/lib/indicator-session/gtk-logout-helper --shutdown  but that now just brings up the "shutdown dialog UI"
[19:25] <Bauer1> NorthByNorthWest: are you talking to me by any change?
[19:25] <ryan_turner> Hi; I'm trying to connect to a PPTP VPN in a 3 day old install of ubuntu 12.10; it fails. This is the vpn gateway: vpn.ua.edu. Here's the university's directions for windows: http://cstest2.ua.edu/oit/services/it-service-desk/using-the-ua-vpn/ Here's my syslog: http://pastebin.com/eBtf5pKv  Any ideas what to do to fix my problem?
[19:25] <MonkeyDust> Chotaz  i use that, maybe i can help
[19:25] <NorthByNorthWest> Bauer1: sorry,no
[19:26] <Sam-L> Is anybody able to help me with a keyboard input related issue?
[19:26] <coz_> ryan_turner,  not sure but you might also want to join the ##linux channel,, they may have more resources available
[19:26] <Chotaz> MonkeyDust, What exactly do I have to do, to make ssh require validation?
[19:26] <ryan_turner> ok, thank you coz_
[19:26] <coz_> ryan_turner,  no problem
[19:26] <Sam-L> edit /etc/sshd/ config files
[19:26] <glauco291> coz_: there is no option to mouse wheel acceleration in system settings
[19:27] <coz_> glauco291,  darn let me check on the system here, hold on
[19:27] <Sam-L> sorry /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[19:28] <MonkeyDust> Chotaz  moment
[19:28] <Chamunks> Anyone have any luck using xbox 360 wireless controllers and adaptors on ubuntu?
[19:28] <MonkeyDust> Chotaz  it's jus 5 lines or so, moment
[19:28] <coz_> glauco291,   is this a microsoft mouse?
[19:28] <Chamunks> i've got something installed but its not working very well with xbmc.
[19:28] <Chotaz> MonkeyDust, sure, np take your time :)
[19:28] <glauco291> yeah
[19:28] <glauco291> coz_: ^
[19:29] <MonkeyDust> Chotaz  https://ioconnor.wordpress.com/2009/07/25/automatic-backup-with-rsync-and-cron-on-ubuntu/
[19:29] <coz_> glauco291,  one of the frequent solutions I found online, was to unplug the mouse for a few seconds,, maybe 10 seconds, then plug it back in.. if that doenst work i will keep checking
[19:30] <Kruko> i went to ubuntu.com and it said "this site uses cookies. continued use of this site constitutes acceptance of these cookies"
[19:30] <glauco291> humm
[19:30] <glauco291> now it is working
[19:30] <Kruko> then i closed the tab, not wanting to accept them
[19:30] <Kruko> but strangely, i still had a cookie from ubuntu.com
[19:30] <glauco291> this problem will not turn back?
[19:30] <Kruko> despite not accepting it
[19:30] <glauco291> coz_:  ^
[19:30] <coz_> glauco291,  well according to the posts I have read, it seems to solve it  ,, let me get y ou one link for that hold on
[19:31] <MonkeyDust> Chotaz  replace X and $USER with your local username
[19:31] <coz_> glauco291,  this is an older post, but does deal with the issue    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1696794
[19:32] <coz_> glauco291,  also, although this is dealing with lxde,, check out the solution here   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1817502
[19:33] <Chotaz> MonkeyDust, But doing this, I'm making sure, above not needing a password, that noone without a key would be able to try to connect, right?
[19:33] <coz_> glauco291,  they talk about    sudo synclient VertScrollDelta=100  ... the higher the number the slower the scroll speed
[19:34] <glauco291> ok, thank you for help coz_
[19:34] <coz_> glauco291,  no problem
[19:34] <glauco291> is not it a bug in ubuntu?
[19:34] <glauco291> cause the speed was correct before coz_
[19:35] <NorthByNorthWest> gaaaahhh.... so I ran alsamixer while running 'GANGNAM STYLE' in youtube.... muted the Master... front... surroound... unmuted and WHAM... sound.... so.... muted and unmute of Master... no sound.. :-\
[19:35] <coz_> glauco291,   it might be a slight bug on 12.10  but I have see that here
[19:35] <Kruko> also, what is marketo.net, and why is it so important that ubuntu allow them to leave a cookie on my computer
[19:35] <coz_> glauco291,  rather  I have NOT seen that here
[19:36] <glauco291> we can report it, what d u think coz_?
[19:37] <coz_> glauco291,   well first I would google  this search string...  ubuntu 12.10  mouse scroll wheel too fast
[19:37] <coz_> glauco291,  check out the solutions available online first
[19:37] <coz_> glauco291,  some of the older posts may be helpful as that one command I gave
[19:38] <coz_> glauco291,  from the beginning, if it is not an LTS release, it is probably best to think of the versions inbetween LTS as experimental
[19:38] <NorthByNorthWest> fiddling with alsa mixer I sometimes get sound... when toggling mute/unmute i can get sound... another mute/unmute its not there anymore
[19:39] <coz_> NorthByNorthWest,  I have had some strange issues as well with sound on both 12.04 and 12.10 although much stranger on 12.10.. you might also want to go to the #alsa and  #pusleaudio   channels
[19:39] <glauco291> Im on 12.04 coz_
[19:40] <coz_> glauco291,  understood
[19:40] <MonkeyDust> Chotaz  idd
[19:40] <Chotaz> MonkeyDust, thanks.
[19:40] <coz_> glauco291,   still  search google using the 12.04 for the search
[19:41] <NorthByNorthWest> coz_: thanks... ill try my luck there
[19:41] <coz_> NorthByNorthWest,  cant hurt :)
[19:41] <NorthByNorthWest> Il leavy you with a music video recommendation! ;)
[19:41] <NorthByNorthWest> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M660rjNCH0A
[19:41] <coz_> thanks
[19:41] <MonkeyDust> Chotaz  that key is unique like your password
[19:43] <wizrd> seems like everyone is going crazy about that gangam style
[19:43] <Chotaz> MonkeyDust, if I ever change the username or the computer name on my Mac
[19:43] <Chotaz> ill have to generate another key right?
[19:44] <Chotaz> assuming the said Mac is the client
[19:44] <untitledwiz>  
[19:44] <ryan_turner> I feel like my PPTP issue is centered around these 4 lines: http://pastebin.com/9TdiqcQd   any ideas?
[19:46] <andril> i need help :( 12.04
[19:47] <andril> hello all
[19:47] <fairuz_> Hi guya. In fstab, what are the two lasts columns?
[19:47] <jpds> fairuz_: man fstab
[19:47] <fairuz_> ok
[19:47] <andril> trying to remove elementary-desktop completely from 12.04
[19:48] <jpds> fairuz_: Sorry to be so blunt, but it's well explained there.
[19:48] <fairuz_> jpds: np. :)
[19:49] <floogy_> Hi, how to use lsof or fuser in this case? umount.nfs: /export/nfs/freenas/temp_data: device is busy
[19:50] <floogy_> I closed virtually everything
[19:51] <baskak> hi, while upgrading to 12.10 i lost my gnome classic/compiz settings. also some functions do not work (alt+tab for example). perhaps it has something to do with the gdm/lightdm question i encountered during upgrade, but it didn't make any sense to me. please help with recovering
[19:52] <floogy_> sudo fuser -cu /export/nfs/freenas/temp_data shows nothing
[19:52] <Ellis> hey
[19:52] <xav54> hi
[19:53] <shantorn> hello, i am trying to look for magazines and such in software center (12.04) and it is empty on this machine but seems to be fine on my sons laptop, could any one help me please
[19:54] <Ellis> Open a terminal on your current machine, type 'sudo apt-get update' minus the quotes.
[19:55] <shantorn> it should be updated but will give it a whirl
[19:55] <wizrd> shantorn: you could also take a look at www.fullcirclemagazine.org
[19:56] <dr_willis> baskak: try making a new user. see  if their default settings work.
[19:56] <shantorn> wizrd, that would get me downloads of fullcircle but i found a couple of magazines on my sons i would like to buy and install in mine
[19:56] <Ellis> I have a question of my own. For an experienced linux user, why should one use Ubuntu? What does it have, with the exception of support, over Fedora, Debian, Arch, or Gentoo? I've noticed the repos have got many outdated packages on Ubuntu.
[19:57] <dr_willis> Ellis: ubuntu is not a "rolling" release.  thats a major differance.
[19:57] <jrib> Ellis: use whatever you want.  In the end though, with ubuntu you get APT, a 6-month release cycle, and security updates from canonical
[19:57] <shantorn> Ellis, the big advantage i see is its ease of use and breadth of software available for it
[19:58] <willdabeast> speaking of compiz, does anyone have a lightweight slick profile I could maybe snag from them? I seem to have messed mine up, I'd love to check someone else's out. :]
[19:58] <wizrd> Ellis: for me, unfortunatly, it's the only distro that works out of the box with my core i7 laptop
[19:59] <dr_willis> willdabeast: not sure what you mean by a profile.
[19:59] <Ellis> dr_willis: I'm aware that it's not rolling release, but I still find many packages which were updated a long time ago which are not updated on the ubuntu repos. ( see: wine )
[19:59] <shantorn> any other idea's why in software center no magazines and such show up?
[20:00] <dr_willis> !ppa
[20:00] <andril> any 12.04 help?
[20:00] <dr_willis> ppas can fill the need for more up to date packages.
[20:00] <jrib> shantorn: where do the magazines come from?  Go to the laptop that has them and use « apt-cache policy PACKAGE » if you know the package name.  Or are they provided in some different way (I don't know)?
[20:01] <Ellis> Of course I could use a PPA, but half the time they don't work properly due to dependencies. Anyway, I'm going to see how Ubuntu rolls, see you.
[20:01] <shantorn> ill compare sources list, even full circle magazine doesnt show up, is totally empty
[20:02] <dr_willis> rarely have ppa issues here.
[20:03] <baskak> dr_willis: thanks, i will check it. btw. what is that gdm-related question during upgrade, can i find any info about it? it really surprised me
[20:04] <wizrd> shantorn: did you check 'software from canonical only' or 'all software' in the view menu
[20:04] <iiulian> Hi, I keep getting this kind of errors when I do sudo apt-get upgrade. Any idea how to fix them? W: Failed to fetch http://ro.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise-backports/universe/binary-i386/Packages  403  Forbidden
[20:04] <shantorn> it's set to all
[20:06] <wizrd> AND WITHIN THE SOURCES LIST?
[20:06] <baskak> dr_willis: gotta logout, then, i'll be back
[20:07] <wizrd> da@#$@%%# capslock
[20:09] <MonkeyDust> iiulian  type sudo apt-get upgrade | pastebinit and paste the url here in the channel
[20:10] <wizrd> 403 error is no linux issue. prob mirror issue
[20:10] <dr_willis> could be an entry in sources.list.d/somthing    not sources.list
[20:10] <wizrd> iiulian: try another mirror
[20:12] <wizrd> the Packages folder doesn't exist on the mirror
[20:12] <iiulian> MonkeyDust, it worked now
[20:12] <iiulian> wizrd, how can I try another mirror?
[20:13] <dr_willis> east coast servers may be down also
[20:13] <vfw> illovae: that url is incomplete, .gz is missing from the end of it.  (.gz or .bz2)
[20:13] <rattatoue> Could someone on 12.04 do me a favor,  upload there .config file from there kernel to pastebin. I am trying to fix a kernel issue and I want to compare ubuntu's with my current one.
[20:13] <wizrd> in the software center you can choose the sources
[20:14] <Bauer1> how do I install manually deb file like this? libc-bin_2.15-0ubuntu10+openvz0_amd64.deb
[20:14] <vfw> illovae: The server is up but the entry is bogus
[20:15] <wizrd> roughly translated (since I use a non english system) it would be in 'Edit -> Sources list'
[20:15] <dr_willis> Bauer1: sudo dpkg -i foo.deb
[20:16] <dr_willis> Bauer1: or  sudo gdebi foo.deb     my fave way
[20:16] <vfw> iiulian: that url is incomplete, .gz is missing from the end of it.  (.gz or .bz2)  The server is running but the entry in the sources.list is in error
[20:16] <Bauer1> thank dr_willis... but its no good :( I get error locale: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.15' not found (required by locale)
[20:16] <Bauer1> I am not sure what it means, the file IS 2.15 :S
[20:16] <vfw> illovae: Sorry, wrong nick.
[20:17] <dr_willis> Bauer1: where did that. deb come from?
[20:17] <qubit> is there a way to tell dpkg that a package is already configured so it will stop trying to configure it?
[20:17] <Bauer1> dr_willis: from here: https://launchpad.net/~izx/+archive/sandbox1/+build/3467510 as a workaround to the problem described here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/125742/why-did-my-upgrade-to-12-04-fail-with-glibc-not-found-or-libc6-or-requires/130717#130717 where solution is offered by the second poster - his repo has similar problem, I tried directly using the .DEB
[20:18] <jrib> qubit: why not just let it configure it...?
[20:18] <rattatoue> will noone upload there .config from the kernel for me?
[20:18] <qubit> jrib: because I'm installing postgres as part of a drbd master/slave cluster, and when installing on the slave, the volume isnt mounted so it shouldnt try to configure postgres when the /var/lib/postgresql volume isnt there
[20:19] <vfw> rattatoue: Which kernel?
[20:19] <vfw> rattatoue: Please give kernel version.
[20:19] <dr_willis> rattatoue: check the  forums or askbuntu.com perhaps
[20:20] <Bauer1> dr_willis: are you able to help?
[20:20] <dr_willis> Bauer1: no idea what the error means. i rarely upgradeable
[20:21] <phong_> hi guys, quick question ,  is it good idea to have ubuntu as host system ? then install windows as vmware?
[20:21] <dr_willis> glib and libc are rather imporntant  bits of the os.
[20:21] <phong_> or rather have windows as host and ubuntu in vmware?
[20:21] <phong_> i need suggestion please
[20:21] <deadmund> phong_: In my opinion.  Linux is a better host OS
[20:21] <rattatoue> I am trying to find the .config for a 3.2 kernel or higher in ubuntu
[20:21] <deadmund> phong_: But really it depends on the hardware
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> phong_: depends what each OS is going to be used for
[20:22] <phong_> deadmund, what do u meant depend?
[20:22] <deadmund> phong_: like the diaper
[20:22] <dr_willis> and what you do in the vm phong_
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> phong_: if you want to play Windows games then you will want Windows to be the host
[20:22] <deadmund> phong_: http://stayhomepapadotorg.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/depends.jpg
[20:22] <phong_> 80% i use windows, 20% use ubuntu.
[20:22] <jrib> qubit: you could muck about with /var/lib/dpkg/info/ but I don't understand why this is an issue for you.  Presumably, you /do/ want to configure it at some point, so why don't you?
[20:23] <dr_willis> use to do what......
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> phong_: the percentage used isn't the thing, its the apps you use
[20:23] <phong_> i only play wc3
[20:23] <phong_> can wc3 play in wndows vmware?
[20:23] <phong_> that's all i wanna to know
[20:23] <dr_willis> dual boot...
[20:23] <rar_rar> qubit: I've not tried it but have you looked into dpkg --unpack --dry-run ?
[20:23] <phong_> then i use ubuntu as host
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> phong_: what is wc3?
[20:23] <phong_> warcraft 3
[20:23] <rar_rar> (--dry-run to see what would happen)
[20:23] <iceroot> phong_: war craft 3 is running fine with wine and playonlinux
[20:23] <dr_willis> games in vms are not great.
[20:24] <ageis> I cant get Linux to load the right kernel module for r8169. I've blacklisted it and updated initramfs and everything. any tips anyone
[20:24] <iceroot> !wine | phong_
[20:24] <phong_> so what do u say? ubuntu or windows as host?
[20:24] <ageis> it loads an older version 2.3LK-NAPI when it should be working with 6.00
[20:24] <phong_> i dont really play games
[20:24] <phong_> if i do. it's only wc3
[20:24] <iceroot> phong_: ubuntu as host and install wine to play wc3
[20:25] <phong_> ok
[20:25] <iceroot> phong_: normally all blizzard games are running fine with wine/playonlinux
[20:25] <phong_> if i need to do visual studio ..i can do that in vmware
[20:25] <phong_> fine then
[20:25] <phong_> iceroot, yeah, but mouse move is sux
[20:26] <phong_> games are great on windows only :)
[20:26] <phong_> ubuntu use OpenGL which is sux then directx
[20:27] <iceroot> phong_: i dont think that opengl sux but that is offtopic here
[20:27] <phong_> ok let me install
[20:27] <qubit> jrib: because the /var/lib/postgresql volume is shared between 2 machines. It's only mounted on 1 at any given time, thus the configure should only be run on the machine that has the volume mounted. I have set `chattr +i /var/lib/postgresql` on the mount point so that nothing is accidentally loaded onto the slave
[20:27] <phong_> brb
[20:27] <qubit> jrib: this chatr +i is causing the configure to fail when it cant modify the directory
[20:28] <ActionParsnip> phong_: warcraft3 gets a gold and platinum rating in wine: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=897   you can run it in Ubuntu
[20:28] <phong_> i'm in download process
[20:29] <ActionParsnip> phong_: not played urban terror then. Or Penumbra or the many natve inux games.....
[20:29] <phong_> i'm dl ubuntu 12.10 now
[20:29] <ActionParsnip> phong_: the humble bundles have great games too
[20:29] <phong_> and format windows host
[20:29] <phong_> currently i'm running ubuntu as vmware
[20:29] <phong_> ;)
[20:30] <phong_> having ubuntu host is good too
[20:30] <phong_> FEAR NO VIRUS for browsing porn
[20:30] <phong_> ;)
[20:30] <ActionParsnip> phong_: why not dual boot instead?
[20:30] <phong_> i dont wanna keep on boot back and forth
[20:31] <phong_> plus i have problem installing it
[20:31] <phong_> wubi dont like me
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> phong_: wubi would require reboos to change OS too..
[20:31] <phong_> yeah, but something not work
[20:31] <phong_> i did try installing a while ago
[20:32] <Bauer1> guys, it seems stackoverflow, serverfault, askubuntu - all are down ATM?
[20:32] <phong_> it reboot and never install os
[20:32] <phong_> i'm going to do a clean install ubuntu
[20:32] <phong_> is there a way to get the old fashion menu ?
[20:32] <phong_> i hate the latest menu of ubuntu 12
[20:32] <ron> is there a way to check the power consumption of my box in console?
[20:32] <phong_> ActionParsnip, away to change classic desktop?
[20:33] <vfw> phong_: Ubuntu 10.04 style?
[20:33] <phong_> yeah
[20:33] <qubit> ron: powertop
[20:33] <phong_> the new style confuse me shlt
[20:33] <l0p3n> Hello! What is the easiest way to install Eclipse without installing OpenJDK?
[20:33] <ActionParsnip> phong_: install gnome-panel  or install Xubuntu and you'll be fine
[20:33] <vfw> phong_: Ever tried xfce?
[20:33] <phong_> vfw, the oldstyle has the 'Applications' menu
[20:33] <BluesKaj> Bauer1, power outrages in the eastern US due to the hurricane
[20:34] <phong_> i like the look of ubuntu
[20:34] <ron> qubit: thanks, but I'm not quite sure what I'm seeing when looking at it.
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> l0p3n: http://packages.ubuntu.com/quantal/eclipse    doesn't seem to be a dep.....
[20:34] <vfw> phong_: Install 10.04
[20:34] <qubit> ron: under the bar in the middle, you should have a power estimate
[20:35] <l0p3n> ActionParsnip: Alright I'll try that. Thanks!
[20:35] <ActionParsnip> phong_: I recommend you install Xubuntu and the desktop will be more familiar, or install gnome-panel and use that as the shell
[20:35] <ron> qubit: is it suitable for amd cpus too?
[20:35] <vfw> phong_: ActionParsnip's advise is good.
[20:35] <Bauer1> yes BluesKaj, but I thought Amazon said they were prepared this time? :P
[20:35] <qubit> ron: it should be, but i honestly havent tried. It's just generic ACPI, so it should work
[20:36] <ActionParsnip> l0p3n: could try the no-deps option (check apt-get man page)
[20:36] <l0p3n> ActionParsnip: Ok thanks :)
[20:39] <Fishscene> Greetings. What audio-type(?) does Ubuntu use by default? Alsa or Pulse?  I want to Install the one Ubuntu is most comfortable with on Ubuntu Server
[20:39] <kev^> Fishscene: i believe its pulseaudio
[20:40] <kev^> Fishscene: i had to install alsa myself
[20:40] <baskak> dr_willis: so i checked, new user on gnome classic has the same problems (no alt+tab, no super+tab)
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> baskak: What window manager are you using?
[20:41] <Fishscene> kev^: Thanks
[20:41] <baskak> dr_willis: ps. if you gave me any tips on the gdm-related question during upgrade, could you repost?
[20:41] <baskak> ActionParsnip: my original question was: while upgrading to 12.10 i lost my gnome classic/compiz settings. also some functions do not work (alt+tab for example). perhaps it has something to do with the gdm/lightdm question i encountered during upgrade, but it didn't make any sense to me. please help with recovering
[20:42] <ActionParsnip> baskak: if you enable a switcher in ccsm, is it ok?
[20:42] <baskak> ActionParsnip: i'm using gnome 2 everyday, ocassionally gnome 3 and unity
[20:42] <baskak> ActionParsnip: just a moment
[20:42] <ActionParsnip> baskak: Gnome2 is dead
[20:44] <baskak> ActionParsnip: "gnome classic" if you will. works okay, and i enjoy full compiz effects, to be true (not available on g3 or unity to my knowledge)
[20:45] <baskak> ActionParsnip: enabled switcher, and it works.
[20:45] <kev^> baskak: sorry i didnt read all the backlog but this may pertain to you. i use gnome-classic no effects, and once my alt+f2, alt+tab, etc weren't working. i had to delete the metacity gconf folder because somehow the shortcut keys were being stored as List of String instead of String... can't find the exact bug on launchpad anymore but take a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/856884
[20:46] <baskak> kev^, ActionParsnip: so it seems it's a case of deleted compiz settings
[20:47] <ActionParsnip> baskak: sweet
[20:47] <baskak> kev^, ActionParsnip: can i recover them? maybe the upgrade just renamed settings file?
[20:47] <ActionParsnip> baskak: I don't use compiz. I think its totaly not worth it
[20:48] <vfw> ActionParsnip: amen
[20:48] <baskak> ActionParsnip: well, on my side i am quite disappointed that all this eyecandy is gone.
[20:50] <vfw> baskak: I like an OS that doesn't get in the way, and all the eyecandy stuff is just in the way, IMO.  (xfce4 user....)
[20:50] <ActionParsnip> baskak: just re-enable the stuff you want.
[20:50] <baskak> ActionParsnip, vfw: or "wasted". but anyway. it's open to debate. the good thing is i can use it if i want.
[20:50] <ActionParsnip> vfw: openbox here :)
[20:51] <baskak> ActionParsnip: thanks, i can do it, but it was kind of tweaked to my preferences...
[20:51] <baskak> ActionParsnip: not easy to recall everything
[20:52] <baskak> ActionParsnip: btw. i'm still curious about this gdm/lightdm question i received during upgrade to 12.10, can you direct me to any explanation?
[20:54] <trism> baskak: did you have gnome-shell installed before the upgrade? gnome-shell in 12.10 depends on gdm now
[20:54] <interntN00b> does Ubuntu index the content of pdf files?
[20:54] <baskak> trism: yes i did
[20:55] <trism> baskak: so the question is because you already had lightdm but you were installing gdm, and it wanted to know which one you wanted
[20:55] <ActionParsnip> baskak: can you give some details please
[20:55] <Fishscene> Does pulseaudio require X11?
[20:56] <steven-> pulseaudio is a server, i don't think it'll require X
[20:56] <steven-> just guessing tho
[20:56] <Peanut> Since upgrading to 12.10, firefox is asking for a lot of sites, "Would you like to install Launchpad(Reddit,Tumbler) for extra features and quicker access" - any idea what that is about?
[20:56] <baskak> trism, ActionParsnip: while upgrading i was asked a question if i choose lightdm or gdm, a question which was not telling me anything. lightdm was pre-chosen, so i sticked to it
[20:56] <ActionParsnip> pulse is just a sound service
[20:56] <Fishscene> That's what I thought too, but when trying to start it on Ubuntu server, it's saying something about a missing X11 config file
[20:57] <ActionParsnip> baskak: then you have gdm and lightdm installed
[20:57] <e66> any one used dstat? What does 3076k mean in "net/eth0" column? Is it 3076 kilo BYTE per second or 3076 kilo BIT per second?
[20:57] <baskak> trism, ActionParsnip: so what's with missing prefs?
[20:58] <Fishscene> For example: "pulseaudio --start" returns: E: [pulseaudio] client-conf-x11.c: xcb_connection_has_error() returned true
[20:58] <trism> baskak: sorry I don't know about the missing prefs, they should have been migrated in the gconf-to-gsettings conversion
[20:59] <ActionParsnip> baskak: maybe the newer compiz had an issue with the old configs
[20:59] <trism> baskak: you could see what is in ~/.local/share/gsettings-data-convert to see if anything missed getting converted
[21:00] <bios_> hi! how to change resolution of the grub?
[21:00] <OpenSorce> Having trouble getting a stylus to work in 10.04. It's a fujitsu stylus, I've done the setserial and installed fpit. I know the device is working because when I do cat /dev/ttyS0 and move the pen on the screen I get output. Any help?
[21:00] <Guest2331> hello
[21:01] <bios_> can anybody help me?
[21:01] <OpenSorce> I've also created /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[21:02] <OpenSorce> and put in the right parameter
[21:02] <trism> baskak: maybe also run: gsettings-data-convert --verbose;
[21:02] <baskak> trism: i put it up here... http://pastebin.com/Q62bQUug
[21:02] <baskak> trism: would you have a look?
[21:02] <vfw> phong_: You're upside down
[21:03] <cali93257> anybody know how to get a windows game running in unbuntu
[21:03] <HulkHogan> yes
[21:03] <varikonniemi> how will ubuntu react when a new kernel is pushed to updates but i have installed a newer myself? will it install the "new" ubuntu build or figure that the installed one is of higher version number?
[21:03] <crqd> boot into windows, run it
[21:03] <bios_> or install wine
[21:03] <trism> baskak: looks like everything was converted, what settings are you missing?
[21:03] <cali93257> i dont have windows
[21:03] <vfw> rattatoue: see my PM
[21:03] <bios_> install wine
[21:04] <crqd> enjoy seeing it crash
[21:04] <HulkHogan> playonlinux
[21:04] <OpenSorce> bios_, Set the desired resolution in /etc/default/grub
[21:04] <OpenSorce> Change the value of GRUB_GFXMODE= (Example: GRUB_GFXMODE=800x600)
[21:04] <OpenSorce> If unsure of what resolutions are available to GRUB 2 they can be displayed by typing vbeinfo in the GRUB 2 command line. The command line is accessed by typing "c" when the main GRUB 2 menu screen is displayed.
[21:04] <baskak> trism: all the compiz (ccsm) settings
[21:04] <OpenSorce> Oops, sorry for the flood
[21:04] <baskak> trism: (for gnome classic)
[21:05] <bios_> thanks
[21:05] <OpenSorce> Sure thing
[21:05] <cali93257> anybody have a site for dummies to get files
[21:05] <vfw> cali93257: dummies files?
[21:05] <vvpalin> google.com ?
[21:05] <davegarath> hi all, I've a question about 12.04 : where can I set the focus follows the mouse ?
[21:05] <OpenSorce> Having trouble getting a stylus to work in 10.04. It's a fujitsu stylus, I've done the setserial and installed fpit. I know the device is working because when I do cat /dev/ttyS0 and move the pen on the screen I get output. Any help?
[21:05] <vfw> cali93257: What kind of files are you looking for?
[21:06] <vfw> cali93257: Or, what kind of help do you need?
[21:06] <trism> baskak: how about: dconf dump /org/compiz/profiles/Default/;
[21:06] <trism> baskak: I'm not really certain everything for the gnome-classic session is migrated correctly, it was a last minute workaround to get that session working at all
[21:07] <crqd> install tweak tools, window focus mode
[21:07] <davegarath> where is in tweak tools?
[21:07] <crqd> software centre, tweak tools
[21:07] <davegarath> I know it :)
[21:07] <baskak> trism: http://pastebin.com/s5EfLqje
[21:07] <vfw> cali93257: ls    will List names of the FILEs in the current directory
[21:08] <davegarath> where ( in tweak ) can I set it ?
[21:08] <baskak> trism: i see
[21:08] <crqd> windows tab, window focus mode
[21:08] <HulkHogan> focus mode?
[21:08] <ActionParsnip> davegarath: gnome-tweaktool
[21:09] <merfy> hello,I have a laptop with nvidia gpu which i assume it has problem.How can i boot the ubuntu live cd without using the nvidia card? What parametrs should i put in grub command line? Thanks.
[21:09] <crqd> winkey, tweak, there is a list with desktop files etc, click windows "window focus mode" to mouse
[21:09] <vfw> merfy: YOu mean without the nvidia driver?
[21:10] <merfy> yes
[21:10] <vfw> merfy: sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[21:10] <merfy> vfw: i am trying with vga=771
[21:10] <merfy> vfw: wait , i haven't installed it yet
[21:11] <zatan> Hey how can I convert this command "egrep -R "random_work" --exclude-dir=media/* ."  in to alias just   "cgrep -ir "random_word"  ?
[21:11] <vfw> merfy: http://askubuntu.com/questions/202677/nvidia-driver-doesnt-work-in-12-10
[21:13] <merfy> vfw: thanks for the help.But i can't even boot the machine to install ubuntu.I would only do it if nvidia card won't be used at all.
[21:14] <vfw> merfy:  Boot it up and then go to tty6,  Ctrl-Alt-F6
[21:14] <lappy_ubuntu> Hello everyone! I'm trying to dual boot ubuntu 12.10 and windows 7 on a machine with a hybrid ssd/hdd setup
[21:14] <HulkHogan> cool
[21:14] <THEJOLLYGRIMREAP> crikey thats involves a blood sacrifice
[21:14] <lappy_ubuntu> Has anyone on here ever done anything like that before?  I'm having some trouble
[21:14] <THEJOLLYGRIMREAP> lol wc
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> lappy_ubuntu: state your issue and people will reply if they can
[21:15] <danley> Hi, I'm having this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-strongswan/+bug/872824 and the bug report says it's already fixed and there should be packages (?). How can I fix it on my 12.04 installation without upgrading for now?
[21:15] <HulkHogan> lappy_ubuntu: just install win then linux
[21:15] <trism> baskak: looks like it only migrates a subset of the compiz settings, might be easier just to use ccsm and reconfigure your desktop than to fix the scripts
[21:15] <merfy> vfw: what should i do at tty6?
[21:16] <OpenSorce> Having trouble getting a stylus to work in 10.04. It's a fujitsu stylus, I've done the setserial and installed fpit. I know the device is working because when I do cat /dev/ttyS0 and move the pen on the screen I get output. Any help?
[21:16] <vfw> merfy: sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak;sudo service lightdm restart
[21:17] <lappy_ubuntu> Windows 7 is already installed.  When I try to install ubuntu, it says that this computer currently has no detected operating systems, and gives me the option to delete the entire disk and install ubuntu.
[21:17] <merfy> vfw: X is not yet install for God shake
[21:17] <merfy>  s/install/installed/
[21:17] <vfw> merfy: Ok, let's start over.  What is your problem.
[21:17] <lappy_ubuntu> How can I get ubuntu to recognize that win7 is already installed?
[21:18] <merfy> vfw: i habe an old laptop(duo core) and i knew that it may have problem with nvidia card.Is there a way to not use the nvidia at all?
[21:18] <willdabeast> I got an error while trying to load this emulator, it says "Error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0, any thoughts?
[21:18] <ActionParsnip> lappy_ubuntu: resize the NTFS in Windows 7 then install to the free space
[21:18] <gordonjcp> willdabeast: yes
[21:18] <merfy> vfw: have in mind i am trying to boot.I use vga=771 for low resolution.
[21:19] <gordonjcp> willdabeast: very very old gtk libraries are missing
[21:19] <lappy_ubuntu> ActionParsnip, thank you for the help!   I will give that a try.
[21:19] <willdabeast> gordonjcp, ok should I just look it up in synaptic then and install them all?
[21:19] <ActionParsnip> lappy_ubuntu: use the platter based storage for /var swap and home too, I also suggest you put your windows page file on it too as well as %TEMP% and %TMP%
[21:19] <gordonjcp> willdabeast: give it a shot
[21:19] <gordonjcp> willdabeast: you might need to check in 1997
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> lappy_ubuntu: also have /home on the platter based drive too
[21:20] <Silent> Hey guys, I just installed EasyPeasy and I'm getting a "Boot error". What can that be?
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> Silent: EasyPeasy isn't supported here
[21:20] <Silent> Ah. I was hoping it is. Thanks anyway :)
[21:20] <willdabeast> gordonjcp, how do you check that way?
[21:21] <vfw> merfy: VESA framebuffer console @ 640x480x256  would be  vga=769
[21:21] <phong_> how to make usb ubuntu boot?
[21:21] <lappy_ubuntu> ActionParsnip, I've got about 160GB of free space on the platter drive.  How do I go about assigning where to install /var swap and home?
[21:22] <quince> How can I tell which "software source" (i.e. which "deb" entry in a sources.list file) a debian package is installed from?  How can I tell which software source a debian package would be installed from if I were to install it?
[21:22] <vfw> merfy: VESA framebuffer console @ 800x600x256  would be  vga=771
[21:22] <guntbert> !away > morphis|away
[21:22] <merfy> vfw: i know that.
[21:22] <HulkHogan> phong_: install unetbootin to make a live usb
[21:22] <danley> Can someone point me to the packages I need to install to fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-strongswan/+bug/872824 on my 12.04?
[21:23] <vfw> merfy: But that is for console mode.  And so, tell us exactly what it is that you need to do?
[21:23] <HulkHogan> quince: well u could if u had synaptic package manager, they got a tab on the side
[21:24] <merfy> I want to install ubuntu in a laptop with ruined gpu , which can't handle high frames
[21:24] <Canuckian> ok, my googlefu is seriously failing me today. trying to find the lines for the motd that displays package info and upgrade notices on login to the tty.
[21:24] <pangur> On the Ubuntu downloads page, it offers 12.10 in two different versions (64bit or 32bit) but recommends 32 bit.  Why is that?
[21:24] <vfw> merfy: It is a laptop, right?
[21:24] <incog> https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2012/10/privacy-ubuntu-1210-amazon-ads-and-data-leaks
[21:24] <incog> eff dont like amazon spyware either
[21:24] <phong_> step by step please
[21:25] <phong_> how to make usb installer
[21:25] <phong_> man
[21:25] <crqd> panic and flail about
[21:25] <Fishscene> incog: apt-get remove unity-lens-shopping
[21:25] <merfy> vfw: yes it is a laptop. vga=parameter is not for console
[21:25] <quince> pangur: because 32 bit will work on all intel systems, so it'll work for people who don't know if they have a 64 bit system
[21:25] <guntbert> !usb | phong_
[21:25] <crqd> or winkey usb startup
[21:25] <gordonjcp> willdabeast: it's very very old. you might not find it
[21:26] <crqd> or usea the pendrive linux thing in windows
[21:26] <gaetano> #ubuntustudio
[21:26] <crqd> it is linked on the download page
[21:26] <gaetano> #ubuntustudio
[21:26] <vfw> merfy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[21:27] <pangur> I have a 64bit system but came with Windows 32bit o/s.  Does that imply that I should stick with 32bit Ubuntu too?  I have that feeling.
[21:27] <Fishscene> pangur: If you have a 64-bit computer, you might as well unlock the full horsepower and go with 64-bit Ubuntu
[21:27] <willdabeast> gordonjcp, it seems like I found it, but it still doesn't work. Same error.
[21:27] <vfw> merfy: see:  "Changing the CD Boot Option Configuration Line"
[21:27] <lappy_ubuntu> pangur, if your system has 4 or more gigabytes of RAM, use 64 bit ubuntu.  If it has less, use 32 bit.
[21:28] <willdabeast> gordonjcp, Do you think I need to restart? I don't think that's necessary
[21:28] <vfw> merfy: It's about 2/3 of the way down the page.
[21:28] <pangur> OK, thanks, quince, Fishscene.  It has 4G, lappy_ubuntu.
[21:28] <quince> HulkHogan: thanks.  I wish I knew how to get that info from the command line...
[21:28] <gordonjcp> willdabeast: nope
[21:29] <pangur> Thanks lappy_ubuntu.
[21:29] <HulkHogan> quince: u got apt-get or aptitude?
[21:29] <marcus__> hello... i have a question, my computer freezes a lot now, but it didnt before, why?
[21:29] <marcus__> total crash :{
[21:29] <gordonjcp> willdabeast: it sounds like you're trying to run something ridiculously old that you will struggle to get working
[21:29] <quince> pangur: lappy_ubuntu is saying that if it has 4 Gb AND is a 64 bit system then use 64 bit ubuntu.  If you don't have a 64 bit system, you have to use the 32 bit version of ubuntu
[21:30] <willdabeast> gordonjcp, it's actually relatively new I believe, in terms of a Sony Playstation Emulator. http://coolrom.com/forums/group.php?groupid=72
[21:30] <quince> HulkHogan: yes, both of those programs are installed on my computer
[21:30] <phong_> guntbert, stupid man, i use usb live creator for windows
[21:30] <phong_> so easy
[21:30] <pangur> Thanks quince.
[21:30] <vfw> marcus__: Is it a desktop?
[21:30] <phong_> guntbert, what an ironic
[21:30] <marcus__> yes
[21:31] <guntbert> phong_: keep polite please - you asked for intructions how to create a thumb drive to boot ubuntu, didn't you?
[21:31] <guntbert> *instructions
[21:31] <phong_> yeah, but i can't get it to intall
[21:32] <vfw> marcus__: Could be a hardware issue such as overheating or memory issues.   Pull the CPU's heat sink, clean and apply new thermal grease.  Test the memory, (boot option memtest).
[21:32] <lappy_ubuntu> Ok, can someone please tell me what size/how many logical partitions to create inside of an extended partition for an install of ubuntu 12.10?
[21:32] <willdabeast> gordonjcp, oh well, thanks anyway :) was just for fun anyway.
[21:32] <marcus__> k
[21:33] <jrib> qubit: sorry, had to step away.  Anyway, I guess you can edit the file in /var/lib/dpkg/info/ that is responsible for configuring and just comment what is inappropriate
[21:33] <gordonjcp> willdabeast: what is it you're trying to install?
[21:33] <pangur> I have an HD installation of knoppix but I had grown used to Ubuntu and want to go back to it.
[21:33] <quince> lappy_ubuntu: up to you really -- how much space do you have to spare?  Are you asking for the absolute minimum required?
[21:33] <phong_> what is virtualbox or busybox meant?
[21:33] <marcus__> i recently installed gpu drivers, could this be it?
[21:33] <HulkHogan> quince: try apt-cache show NAME_OF_PACKAGE
[21:33] <willdabeast> gordonjcp, just a sony playstation emulator with a final fantasy 7 rom. Haven't even gotten to the rom yet hehe
[21:33] <quince> phong_: did you google them?
[21:33] <vfw> lappy_ubuntu: I would recomment 3.  One for swap (about 4G).  A second for / (about 20G).  A third for /home/ (the rest).
[21:33] <baskak> trism: all right, thanks (sorry for delay). is it a bug, you'd say?
[21:33] <guntbert> lappy_ubuntu: see https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/i386/partitioning.html
[21:34] <lappy_ubuntu> quince, I've got 150GB.  I'm just wondering how to set it up for an install.
[21:34] <gaetano> hello everyone! i now installed ubuntustudio 12.10, why i cant watch videos such as youtube
[21:34] <gordonjcp> willdabeast: ah, there are a couple of psx emulators
[21:34] <vfw> lappy_ubuntu: If you have 4G of RAM or less 4G is enough for the swap partition.
[21:35] <gordonjcp> willdabeast: there is an *excellent* emulator available for the PSX, it's called a PS3 ;-)
[21:35] <quince> lappy_ubuntu: you want to use all of it for ubuntu, or leave some for other things?
[21:35] <willdabeast> gordonjcp, I mean I have epsxe right now, maybe I should try another, the issue though is opening the .exe file
[21:35] <lappy_ubuntu> quince, I'd like to use all of it.
[21:35] <willdabeast> gordonjcp, haha well wouldn't that be nice.
[21:35] <lappy_ubuntu> Ah, thank you very much vfw and guntbert!
[21:35] <gaetano> hello everyone! i have now installed ubuntustudio 12.10, why i cant watch videos such as youtube?
[21:35] <joshuagl> Hello #ubuntu. Has anyone seen "can't load DistUpgradeViewGtk3 (Gtk couldn't be initialized)" when trying to use update-manager to update to 12.10 ?
[21:35] <guntbert> !repeat | gaetano
[21:36] <vfw> lappy_ubuntu: If you are going to use the entire hard drive, three primary partitions are all you need.
[21:36] <superstructor> hello :-) I installed 12.04.1 with debootstrap. everythings good but I can't display unicode chars in a konsole or gnome-terminal. Just displays junk where the unicode char should be. Any idea how I can diagnose / fix this issue ?
[21:37] <superstructor> aparantly localeconf is not a package anymore... ?
[21:38] <lappy_ubuntu> vfw, I won't be using the entire HDD, only 150gb of free space that I've cleared up.  There's a few other partitions on it that I don't want to remove.  Hence the Extended/logical partition setup.
[21:38] <jean_robles> hola
[21:38] <quince> lappy_ubuntu: if you're not encrypting your root partition (which is a good idea, but ubuntu makes a bit of a pain still), I'd just put it all in one partition (plus probably another for swap).  Others recommend a separate /home partition, I guess because they find it easier when reinstalling ubuntu from scratch -- but the advice from Canonical is not to do that (because they installer is supposed to preserve your home f
[21:38] <quince> olders even when reinstalling).
[21:39] <guntbert> quince: where did you read that?
[21:39] <xpatriot> channel is logged?
[21:39] <xpatriot> wtf is that?
[21:39] <guntbert> !logs | xpatriot
[21:39] <lappy_ubuntu> Ok, and these partitions should be in ext4 I assume?
[21:40] <xpatriot> what's a good server where you are not censored/logged/recorded?
[21:40] <HulkHogan> always seperate ur /home from /
[21:40] <quince> guntbert: somewhere a long time ago.  Sorry if I'm misattributing it.
[21:41] <vfw> lappy_ubuntu: Ok, then I stand with my above recommendations
[21:41] <guntbert> quince: I was asking because I don't remember the installer to preserve /home when doing a fresh install
[21:42] <lappy_ubuntu> vfw, that's what I was going to go with.  I figure it would be nice not to lose my files incase I screw something up and need to reinstall
[21:42] <quince> guntbert: I never remember *anything* about what the installer does, so I'm the wrong person to ask ;-)  Personally, I don't trust it to get anything right -- when I reinstall, I do it on a separate hard drive and unplug the old one (and I rarely upgrade)
[21:43] <belgianguy> hmm, anyone else having odd icon artifacts when dragging an icon from the Unity bar?
[21:43] <vfw> lappy_ubuntu: Yes, having a separate /home/ partition makes it easy if you decide to re-install, (in case you want to leave your files intact).
[21:43] <quince> not becuase I think it's particularly untrustworthy -- I'm just not very trusting about it
[21:44] <lappy_ubuntu> Ok, so 2 last questions for everyone.  What filesystem should I make these partitions?  And how large should my swap partition be if I have 8GB of RAM?  I think I heard it should be double the RAM, but I'm not sure on that.
[21:44] <quince> lappy_ubuntu:  ext4 is fine
[21:44] <HulkHogan> seperate /home / and swap
[21:44] <crqd> btfs whoo
[21:44] <emes> how do I change the number of workspaces on unity on 12.10?
[21:44] <crqd> btrfs*
[21:44] <lappy_ubuntu> quince: good to know
[21:45] <HulkHogan> emes: open compiz settings
[21:45] <vfw> lappy_ubuntu: I agree with quince, ext4 is good
[21:46] <quince> lappy_ubuntu: how long is a piece of string?  Personally I tend not to use swap at all.  About same swap size as RAM size is fine.
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> quince: twice as long as half it's length
[21:46] <merfy> with 8gb , no need to use swap
[21:46] <bekks> merfy: Wrong.
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> merfy: unless you want suspend etc
[21:46] <vfw> merfy: Your logic is flawed.
[21:46] <lappy_ubuntu> vfw: thanks.  quince: I'll go for 8GB of swap then.
[21:46] <merfy> bekks: why wrong?
[21:46] <emes> HulkHogan: thanks
[21:46] <HulkHogan> swap is good if u are going to hibernate/sleep
[21:47] <vfw> lappy_ubuntu: Good.
[21:47] <bekks> merfy: See the comment of ActionParsnip
[21:47] <bekks> HulkHogan: s/good/required/
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> with 8Gb I wouldn't have swap but I've never used hibernate
[21:47] <vfw> HulkHogan: It's good for other things as well but... nufsaid
[21:47] <merfy> no need for swap i wouldn't use with 8 gb ram
[21:48] <bekks> merfy: So you wouldnt use swap/hibernate.
[21:48] <merfy> what do you by hibernate?
[21:48] <vfw> merfy: Have it your way.  If you don't want to use swap, don't.  But don't recommend it to others.
[21:48] <merfy> what do you mean by hibernate?
[21:49] <ActionParsnip> merfy: when you hibernate, the RAM contents are put into the swap space
[21:49] <bekks> merfy: Putting your computer in a powerless state, with the ability to restore the last running state within seconds.
[21:49] <quince> lappy_ubuntu: actually, probably there is a more sensible answer than I gave.  But I suspect most people who confidently give advice about it don't really know what that answer is (certainly I don't).  It's easy to invent plausible answers, but likely lots of those are wrong...
[21:49] <merfy> bekks: do you believe 8 gb aren't enought?
[21:50] <bekks> merfy: I dont even believe, I know it. You cannot hibernsate without swap.
[21:50] <bekks> *hibernate
[21:50] <vfw> quince: Suppose all you want......... Not sure it is helpful though.
[21:51] <quince> lappy_ubuntu: bekks makes a good point about suspend to disk, though
[21:52] <lappy_ubuntu> quince: I don't use the hibernate feature, but I'll be sure to leave enough swap space for it incase I ever decide to later.
[21:53] <quince> vfw: sorry, my comment wasn't directed at you personally.  The suggestions about swap space size seem rarely to come with a carefully thought-out explanation of why that size is optimal.  That's why I suspect that they are not optimal.
[21:54] <lappy_ubuntu> Alright, so I've made my partitions and now I'm installing.  What should I select from the dropdown menu when it asks "Device for bootloader installation"?
[21:54] <vfw> Although I think we have ran the swap discussion into the ground, but here is some good info for those who are interested:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[21:54] <quince> vfw: also, expectations about performance are often wrong without detailed knowledge of the relevant program's internals (the kernel, in this case), and careful measurements.
[21:55] <vfw> quince: Just read from the above URL.
[21:55] <quince> vfw: it doesn't add confidence that that very page apologizes that its own advice is likely "a myth"
[21:55] <HulkHogan> it usually says /sda for bootlooder install
[21:56] <vfw> quince: Read, don't comment.  (And that is not what it says.)
[21:57] <lappy_ubuntu> HulkHogan:  My setup is a ssd/hdd hybrid drive.  The SSD is /sda and that is where windows is installed.  There is probably some free space left but it shows up as unallocated space in GParted.  Will that be a problem?
[21:58] <quince> vfw: cheer up
[21:58] <merfy> bekks: how can i monitor the usage of swap when hibernate?
[21:58] <lappy_ubuntu> My other choices are the HDD and various partitions on the HDD
[21:58] <HulkHogan> lappy_ubuntu: if ur linux install in on sda then install the bootloader on that
[21:59] <bekks> merfy: free -m will show you how much RAM is used, slighty more will be used by hibernate.
[21:59] <gaetano> hello! what i gotta isnstall to watch youtube videos?
[21:59] <vfw> lappy_ubuntu: Choose sda  (the drive the computer boots from, the primary hard drive).
[21:59] <xangua> gaetano: adobe flash player
[21:59] <HulkHogan> gaetano: install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[21:59] <aoeuid> does anyone know how to turn off alt+drag behavior in gnome3? I tried changing mouse-button-modifier with dconf-editor, but alt+drag behaves the same no matter what I set it to
[21:59] <quince> merfy: or cat /proc/meminfo
[21:59] <ActionParsnip> gaetano: flash
[22:00] <merfy> free -m  total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[22:00] <merfy> Mem:         12017       1845      10172
[22:00] <superstructor> I installed 12.04.1 with debootstrap. everythings good but I can't display unicode chars in a konsole or gnome-terminal. Just displays junk where the unicode char should be. Any idea how I can diagnose / fix this issue ?
[22:00] <lappy_ubuntu> HulkHogan: My linux install will be on /dev/sdb.  So, should I choose that?
[22:00] <vfw> lappy_ubuntu: The existing bootloader is overwritten by grub, (and that is what you want to do).
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> merfy: 12Gb RAM?
[22:00] <HulkHogan> lappy_ubuntu: yes
[22:00] <merfy> yes
[22:00] <lappy_ubuntu> vfw: Ok, thank you for the information.
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> merfy: you want the used RAM on the 2nd line, this is the actual used RAM, not the cahces
[22:00] <quince> merfy: free usually prints a second line, listing the swap usage.  Do you have swap enabled?
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> *caches
[22:01] <merfy> quince: nop
[22:01] <gaetano> hulkhogan: what i have to do to install restricted -extra? to type on the terminal "sudo apt-get install restricted-extra?
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> gaetano: the package is ubuntu-restricted-extras
[22:02] <quince> merfy: I don't know what nop means, sorry?
[22:02] <HulkHogan> gaetano: u can use the software center also
[22:02] <lappy_ubuntu> Alright, I'm going to start this install now.  I just want to thank everyone on here.  You guys have been super helpful, and I really appreciate it!
[22:02] <bekks> merfy: take alook at www.linuxatemyram.com please
[22:02] <merfy> quince: i don'use swap
[22:02] <lappy_ubuntu> I'd probably be too chicken to dual boot on this setup with your advice.
[22:02] <vfw> lappy_ubuntu: NP....
[22:02] <quince> gaetano: yes, but it's ubuntu-restricted-extras , not restricted-extras
[22:03] <quince> merfy: ah, right
[22:03] <gaetano> ok thanks to all!
[22:03] <rangergord>  I'm trying to create an alias in my .bashrc that does the following: "cd /dir" and "svn update". Except I want to see the output of the "svn update" command. How can I do this? alias xxx='cd dir;svn update' doesnt echo anything
[22:03] <quince> rangergord: consider (cd /dir && svn update) instead
[22:03] <bekks> rangergord: because "dir" is unknown.
[22:04] <HulkHogan> rangergord: alias cdsvn='cd dir && svn update'
[22:04] <bekks> HulkHogan: Wrong.
[22:04] <rangergord> oh hay that worked, thanks
[22:04] <bekks> rangergord: cd /dir && svn update
[22:04] <rangergord> bekks: that was a typo :)
[22:04] <bekks> ;)
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> bekks: instead of just saying 'wrong', just post the correction. You'll seem less aggressive
[22:05] <bekks> ActionParsnip: I just did.
[22:05] <quince> rangergord: because that does the cd in a subshell, so following shell commands will still have the same pwd.  It's good to never change the pwd except in a small program section, because that way you're not relying on global state (if you rely on global state, it's hard to get that right).
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> bekks: yes, after the 'wrong' bit
[22:05] <bekks> ActionParsnip: kk
[22:06] <merfy> end_request: I/O error,dev sr0, sector 23526 , that means either the cd driver or the disk i use has problem?
[22:08] <quince> rangergord: oops, misread your question, ignore my comment
[22:09] <quince> rangergord: does it work for you now?  your alias looks fine to me
[22:09] <Granata_> anybody to ask about qt integration problems with ubuntu?
[22:09] <vfw> Granata_: Why?  Are you about to?
[22:09] <quince> (other than the use of semicolon)
[22:10] <gaetano> quince: ok, flesh plugin is installed, but the installation of extras keep going..and its a lot! do i have to let the whole extras be installed?
[22:10] <gordonjcp> willdabeast: ping
[22:10] <trism> baskak: yeah it's a bug, but one that unless someone takes the initiative, goes through and debugs/tests the migration scripts, and fixes them if there are issues, it probably won't be fixed unfortunately (until about a week before release, gnome classic didn't work at all without manual configuring)
[22:10] <gordonjcp> willdabeast: you know what I said about PSX on PS3?
[22:10] <gordonjcp> willdabeast: that works a whole lot better when it's not taking 45 minutes to do a firmware update because the wind is basically blowing the packets out of the telephone wires
[22:10] <quince> gaetano: I don't know -- I was just correcting your command to match the suggestion that somebody else made
[22:10] <lappy_ubuntu> Ok, when I click install I get an error message that says "No root filesystem is defined.  Please correct this from the partitioning menu."  Where can I find this partitioning menu?
[22:11] <willdabeast> gordonjcp, wait by PS3 I assume you mean playstation 3 correct? haha
[22:11] <gordonjcp> willdabeast: eyah
[22:11] <willdabeast> gordonjcp, I mean I'd love to if I had a ps3
[22:11] <gordonjcp> willdabeast: at this rate I'd be quicker driving in to town to pick up a PS2
[22:12] <willdabeast> gordonjcp, haha yea I'd love to if they accepted candy as currency
[22:13] <quince> does anybody have screenlets working on gnome 3?  I always get this error on attempting to add a screenlet using the screenlets manager: The name <screenlet service name here> was not provided by any .service files
[22:14] <quince> I don't see why it *should* work, because gnome-screenlets-all does not contain any DBUS .service files!
[22:14] <quince> seems to happen for all screenlets -- at least, for the first two I tried
[22:14] <shantorn_> could someone please pastebin the default software sources that came with 12.04
[22:15] <HulkHogan> shantorn_: http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[22:15] <quince> Granata_: what specifically?
[22:15] <uglyoldbob_> what do i need to do to stream a quickcam pro 9000 at 30fps using ffmpeg? All I can get so far is 15fps
[22:16] <willdabeast> gordonjcp, I think you're right though, may just buy a ps2 haha
[22:16] <willdabeast> gordonjcp, or just dualboot and try windows 7 with it.
[22:17] <willdabeast> does anyone know how to decrease the size of the Alt-Tab box that pops up? It looks like I am in 800x600 when it comes up.
[22:18] <guest-ZCEwDJ> no
[22:18] <gordonjcp> Unity needs a "MovieOS" button that makes the icons four times as big
[22:18] <gordonjcp> and makes all the desktop effects much more showy
[22:19] <bekks> And introduce 7.1 THX sound effects :)
[22:24] <amagee> hey I just installed ubuntu 12.04 on a new SSD (already have ubuntu installed on a hard drive on the same computer).  it installed successfully but I think I selected the wrong device to install GRUB on, so it's booting to the old installation.  Can I fix this from the old installation?
[22:24] <willdabeast> i'd uninstall the grub and reinstall it on the new partition amagee
[22:25] <amagee> willdabeast: how do i do that?
[22:26] <willdabeast> amagee let me find the link, pretty easy process
[22:26] <Jordan_U> amagee: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_ChRoot
[22:26] <willdabeast> amagee http://www.howtogeek.com/114884/how-to-repair-grub2-when-ubuntu-wont-boot/
[22:26] <willdabeast> or that ;]
[22:27] <Jordan_U> amagee: Be sure to also run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc" after that as well, to make sure that the grub-pc package is configured to install grub's boot sector to the correct drive (and *not* to any partitions) on upgrades.
[22:28] <amagee> hmmmm
[22:28] <amagee> last time i did this it was much easier iirc
[22:28] <amagee> ah maybe i used boot-repair
[22:30] <fchandler> What would be the simplest way to see the websites on my ubuntu 12.04 desktop w/ apache over my lan so I can see them on my windows boxes?
[22:30] <kolja_> hi
[22:30] <tassmjau> hey, does anyone have a clue how to use ssh-keys with an encrypted homefolder, that's been nagging me all day...
[22:31] <jrib> fchandler: install apache, navigate to your server's ip
[22:31] <quince> tassmjau: what do you mean "use" exactly?
[22:31] <ArSn> root@vokky ~ # nice 10 echo "wtf";
[22:31] <ArSn> nice: 10: No such file or directory
[22:31] <ArSn> am I dumb? How can "nice" not exist? oO
[22:32] <quince> tassmjau: use as the key that is used to encrypt the folder?
[22:32] <bekks> ArSn: "10:..."
[22:32] <Linkandzelda> hi, what is the feasabiity of running mac os x applications on a linux system such as ubuntu?
[22:32] <fchandler> I guess I need to set up virtual hosts on the apache
[22:32] <ArSn> 10:?
[22:32] <bekks> ArSn: 10 is interpreted as a cmd.
[22:33] <bekks> ArSn: nice -n 10 echo ...
[22:33] <tassmjau> quince: well, no, I have a server that I'm ssh-ing to... and I need to use git from there, it works fine from the "standard" desktop env in ubuntu 12.10
[22:33] <quince> LikeLakers2: in principle you could run Mac OS X applications in a virtual machine. running on ubuntu.  Apple doesn't really support that except for OS X server, though
[22:33] <ArSn> aha
[22:33] <ArSn> but minues levels are not interpreted as command?
[22:33] <ArSn> *minus
[22:33] <tassmjau> quince: but I prefer i3, and there I get PublicKey errors...
[22:33] <quince> LikeLakers2: it's a bit of a pain I think
[22:33] <ArSn> negative, lets say
[22:34] <quince> LikeLakers2: (I'm not saying anything about other options than VMs)
[22:34] <tassmjau> I'm guessing the standard one comes with some decrypt-magic on login...
[22:34] <bekks> ArSn: Nope, according to "man nice".
[22:34] <tassmjau> looked around for it... but no cigar
[22:34] <Jordan_U> ArSn: The "nice: " Meant "This error message is coming from the nice command" (which is often useful to know when debugging long scripts).
[22:34] <ArSn> ah oh, good to know
[22:34] <ArSn> okay, thanks guys
[22:35] <quince> tassmjau: so you're thinking that the fact that you can't ssh to a server is due your use of the encrypted home directory feature of Ubuntu?
[22:35] <quince> tassmjau: What is i3?
[22:35] <amagee> ok, rebooting :)
[22:36] <tassmjau> hmm, yeah, I'm guessing that git cant read my public-key since it's under encryption... I may be way off here :)
[22:36] <jrib> !ssh | tassmjau
[22:36] <quince> tassmjau: you're guessing the standard what comes with some "decrypt-magic" on login?
[22:36] <jrib> tassmjau: you need to place the authorized_keys file somewhere outside the encrypted home.  See ubottu for details
[22:37] <quince> !ssh | quince
[22:37] <tassmjau> quince: the standard desktop environment, I'm using i3wm.org, a tiling wm...
[22:38] <tassmjau> jrib: hi, I don't have an authorized_keys tho... or, I have on the server, but not on my local machine...
[22:38] <quince> jrib: you're suggesting that he's not got the encrypted home directory mounted?
[22:38] <quince> or that there's some special issue affecting ssh related to encrypted home directories?
[22:39] <jrib> tassmjau, quince: I'm assuming the issue is you are sshing to a server with encrypted homes and using ssh keys.  If that's not the case, please restate your issue
[22:40] <quince> is it the host that you're sshing to that has the encrypted home dir, or the server that you're sshing from?
[22:40] <tassmjau> jrib: I'm sshing _from_ an encrypted home, to a server, from which I can't do git stuff...
[22:40] <quince> there's nothing special about encrypted directories once they're mounted
[22:40] <jrib> tassmjau: when you login the home is decrypted.  Are you not logged in?
[22:41] <tassmjau> jrib: yeah, I'm logged in...
[22:41] <jrib> tassmjau: is your home not decrypted?
[22:41] <tassmjau> jrib: it is decrypted...
[22:41] <tassmjau> :S
[22:41] <jrib> tassmjau: are your keys not available to you in ~/.ssh/ ?
[22:41] <tassmjau> jrib: yeah they are
[22:42] <quince> ssh -v <server>
[22:42] <quince> that should tell you what ssh is doing
[22:42] <jrib> tassmjau: you need to state exactly what you are doing that is failing
[22:42] <tassmjau> quince: thanks! i'll have a look
[22:44] <quince> if the -v switch doesn't tell you anything interesting (e.g. perhaps there is a file permissions problem on the host from which you are attempting to ssh), then the logs in /var/log on the server you're sshing to may help (but you may need to enable logging in /etc/ssh/ssd_config on the server to get useful logs)
[22:44] <tassmjau> quince: jrib: all is fine and dandy, about 30 lines of successes until these two comes along:
[22:44] <tassmjau> debug1: key_parse_private_pem: PEM_read_PrivateKey failed
[22:44] <quince> pastebin?
[22:44] <tassmjau> on it :)
[22:45] <jrib> tassmjau: throw in this too: ls -ld ~/.ssh/ ~/.ssh/*
[22:50] <tassmjau> jrib: quince: sorry for being slooow: http://pastebin.com/nsdVw5hM
[22:51] <jrib> tassmjau: did you... type this out?
[22:52] <tassmjau> jrib: haha
[22:52] <tassmjau> jrib: no
[22:52] <arronhunt> hey guys. I believe I messed up my MySQL configuration. How can I completely destroy it and reinstall it?
[22:53] <jrib> tassmjau: I think quince asked you to pastebin so he could see the 30 lines you mentioned
[22:53] <gordonjcp> arronhunt: yes
[22:53] <gordonjcp> arronhunt: sudo apt-get remove --purge mysql*
[22:53] <tassmjau> jrib: oh-mama, I'm getting sleepy over here
[22:53] <gordonjcp> arronhunt: have a look and see if any stuff is hanging around in /var/lib/mysql
[22:53] <jrib> tassmjau: I asked about you typing it out because your ls output is missing the group and it says "<user>"
[22:53] <quince> tassmjau: chmod a-x ~/ssh/id_rsa.pub
[22:54] <arronhunt> gordonjcp alright great. what if there is something in /var/lib/mysql
[22:54] <jrib> tassmjau: you're sure key-auth works when you use the other desktop environment as this same user and ssh to the same server?
[22:54] <quince> tassmjau: like jrib said, I was interested in the rest of the ssh -v output.  But the id_rsa.pub permissions look wrong -- the chmod command I wrote above should fix that.  I don't know that that's causing your problem though.
[22:55] <jrib> quince: .pub should be the public key
[22:55] <quince> jrib: sure.  Permissions still look wrong though, and ssh is picky about those of course
[22:55] <jrib> quince: but you're right it shouldn't be +x anyway
[22:56] <jrib> quince: maybe it got copied to the server that way too
[22:56] <tassmjau> jrib quince ah ok,
[22:57] <tassmjau> strange thing is that it's working both on a mac and in the standard desktop env in ubuntu...
[22:58] <jrib> tassmjau: you never input the password in the other environments?  They may do some sort of password caching
[22:59] <tassmjau> jrib yeah they might... I was prompted the first time, that's true...
[22:59] <quince> tassmjau: perhaps you have multiple private keys on the server, and the mac &c. are using a different private key.  Or they are using a different user account on the server you are trying to ssh to.  Could be all kinds of things -- best just to look in the logs and find out for sure.
[22:59] <tassmjau> quince: jrib: yep, that's probably what I'll do in the morning then :) thanks alot for looking into this with me :)
[23:00] <quince> if logging isn't enabled on the server, you may need to edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config and perhaps restart sshd on the server (sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart or something)
[23:02] <tassmjau> quince: thanks, it seems to be enabled though
[23:03] <vith> does ubuntu host a debdelta repository? i'm having trouble finding the answer with google
[23:06] <qwd> I'm trying to play videos from the dvd to Molecular Cell Biology of the Cell 5th edition. Some of them work in Totem but most don't. VLC doesn't work either. I have restricted gstreamer-stuff installed. The files are .mov
[23:07] <quince> tried kaffeine?
[23:07] <quince> in my experience, it's not uncommon still that exactly one of totem, vlc, and kaffeine will play something
[23:08] <quince> do you have gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad installed?  google it
[23:10] <Jordan_U> qwd: This is an actual commercial DVD?
[23:10] <jrib> qwd: try mplayer too
[23:10] <arronhunt> when I backspace in vi it just moves the cursor backwards. When I use the arrow keys it inserts characters 'a','b','c' and 'd'. Did I do something?
[23:11] <jrib> arronhunt: are you using vim or vim-tiny?
[23:11] <arronhunt> i'm not sure. $vi file.txt
[23:11] <qwd> Jordan_U: It's a dvd but it's not a video dvd. It contains mov files, pdfs, images and stuff like that. The info file says to use Quicktime and mentions Adobe Flash.
[23:11] <kaushal> Hi
[23:12] <jrib> arronhunt: try "vim" instead of "vi" and do a: readlink -f $(which vim)     to see where vim is pointing to
[23:12] <kaushal> I am running Ubuntu 11.10 and is 4G LTE modem supported?
[23:12] <Jordan_U> qwd: Could you pastebin the output of "mplayer /path/to/video.mov"? (assuming that mplayer also fails to play it properly)
[23:12] <quince> kaushal: update-alternatives --display vi
[23:12] <arronhunt> jrib `vim: command not found`
[23:13] <jrib> arronhunt: you're sure this is ubuntu? :P
[23:13] <quince> arronhunt: update-alternatives --display vi
[23:14] <arronhunt> jrib lol yeah. i'm a linux noob though
[23:14] <pax> ls -all
[23:14] <jrib> arronhunt: you have X on this machine?
[23:14] <arronhunt> jrib I don't know what that is, probably no. quince that says it is vim.tiny
[23:15] <jrib> arronhunt: graphical environment?
[23:15] <quince> arronhunt: sudo apt-get install vim
[23:15] <arronhunt> jrib no
[23:15] <arronhunt> quince I assumed vim came packaged with ubuntu
[23:15] <quince> you're using the cut-down version of vim -- it's not very good IIRC, might as well just use full-blown vim
[23:15] <jrib> arronhunt: install vim-nox  (I don't actually remember the difference between the vim and vim-nox packages)
[23:15] <quince> arronhunt: it does, but it's not installed by default
[23:16] <arronhunt> awesome, thanks guys. That should make life easier
[23:16] <zoktar> my login splash screen and logout splash screen seem to have vanished, do i need to reinstall some packages to get them back?
[23:17] <zoktar> not login splash screen, but loadsplashscreen
[23:18] <GraemeLion> So, has anyone noticed text scrambled/garbled with Nvidia cards on 12.10?  Workarounds/fixes?  Nouveau card, everything updated
[23:18] <quince> What do you mean by loadsplashscreen?
[23:18] <quince> the boot time splash screen?
[23:18] <zoktar> the splash screen between grub and login screen
[23:18] <zoktar> ye
[23:18] <zoktar> and also the shutting down serivies for reboot splash screen
[23:19] <zoktar> looks so much cleaner without wall of texts
[23:20] <quince> zoktar: maybe this will turn up some info: sudo grep -rli plymouth /var/log
[23:20] <quince> did you do anything recently with grub?
[23:20] <overdub> I have a fresh 12.10 install and it keeps shutting down when I leave it idle, any ideas what might be causing this?
[23:20] <zoktar> aye
[23:20] <zoktar> with grub customizer
[23:21] <simpleton> what basic skills should i practice to use my computer well?
[23:21] <Silent> Hello :)
[23:21] <quince> overdub: is this on a laptop?  I guess power management might be responsible?
[23:21] <overdub> it's not a power issue, just either logs out or restarts when I leave it over night
[23:21] <overdub> quince, yes, a Lenovo which ran previous versions with no problems
[23:21] <Silent> I have Intel GMA 3150 and I have a bit of tearing. Apparently VSync is disabled, and I'm not using Compiz. How do I emable VSync?
[23:22] <quince> I'm not saying it's running out of power -- perhaps some power management system is just deciding to shut it down / suspend to disk / whatever to be a good green citizen or something
[23:23] <quince> simpleton: that's quite a general question!
[23:24] <overdub> quince, thanks for the insights, i checked my power setting and will keep an eye on it
[23:25] <Necro> Hi guys, sometimes when I start my computer, Ubuntu 12.10 fails to recognize the USB drives already plugged in. I started my computer 10 minutes ago and Ubuntu still doesn
[23:26] <Necro> doesn't see the flashdrive and external drive I have plugged in. How can I force it to search for USB devices?
[23:26] <simpleton> yeah i'll look it up you don't have to do my own research, but i would like an answer to the query of how to resolve all these difficulties involving computers.
[23:27] <quince> zoktar: I imagine your grub changes disabled the splash screen.  grub changed so many times I no longer know where to look for the configuration... maybe /etc/default/grub?  I see I have a "quiet splash" in there in the line: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"
[23:30] <quince> simpleton: you have to name a specific difficulty -- pick one, then just ask (don't ask to ask)
[23:31] <simpleton> how do people get what they want
[23:31] <simpleton> from computers or anything else
[23:33] <sybiam> Hi
[23:34] <sybiam> anyone running linux on a macbook?
[23:34] <satwood> does ubuntu come with exim4 installed by default ?
[23:34] <sybiam> I'm having a hardtime booting and installing ubuntu on a macbook 5.1
[23:35] <blackshirt> satwood: no
[23:35] <MonkeyDust> !mac > sybiam start here
[23:35] <satwood> can the config files of debian be used simply in ubuntu also ?
[23:36] <sybiam> my comp has a broken dvd drive and live usb fails to boot
[23:36] <quince> satwood: which config files exactly?
[23:36] <satwood> exim4
[23:36] <satwood> and dovecot
[23:37] <sybiam> ubottu: what is that?
[23:38] <sybiam> MonkeyDust: this thing doesn't help
[23:39] <quince> satwood: I wouldn't be surprised if they worked unchanged
[23:39] <MonkeyDust> sybiam  then state your question with more details
[23:40] <sybiam> Since I have a brokend dvd drive and the live usb doesn't seem to work, how could I install ubuntu on that comp?
[23:40] <sybiam> I had in mind that I could take out the hardrive and install from a different comp but I'm not sure it will boot
[23:41] <Jordan_U> sybiam: Taking out the hard drive and installing from a different machine should work.
[23:41] <Richhh> anyone good with pattern recognition?
[23:41] <stephanb> hi, i have a problem with audacious, i can't add any folders to my playlist, files work fine but no folders... any ideas?
[23:41] <Jordan_U> !anyone | Richhh
[23:42] <Richhh> for 1-nn classifiers, what does the "leave one out protocol" do?
[23:42] <sybiam> Jordan_U: problem is that osx has a different boot loader  (Not BIOS) while possibly rEFIt will boot grub which will boot ubuntu
[23:42] <MonkeyDust> stephanb  i use audacious, click on on a music and select 'open with audacious' -- you can then export the playlist as foo.audpl
[23:43] <quince> sybiam: you can also boot over the network, but you'll probably find that more of a pain.  I think there are websites that provide network boot as a service for free, if you trust that...
[23:43] <quince> sybiam: it's called PXE boot
[23:43] <MonkeyDust> stephanb  correction : i use audacious, click on on a music folder and select 'open with audacious' -- you can then export the playlist as foo.audpl
[23:43] <sybiam> quince: how do you boot from network with a mac?
[23:43] <stephanb> MonkeyDust: tried that, but didnt work, i just get an empty playlist
[23:44] <Jordan_U> sybiam: Intel macs have a BIOS implementation as well, so you should still be fine (their BIOS implementation doesn't work with USB on many of their machines, but does work fine with internal drives).
[23:44] <MonkeyDust> stephanb  weird, that's how i do it, over ssh, even
[23:44] <quince> sybiam: if you have to ask, you'll probably find it way, way easier to take the hard disk out (or use a web site that provides PXE boot from a remote server -- like netboot.me)
[23:44] <stephanb> MonkeyDust: strange... i'll try a restart...
[23:44] <sybiam> I'll take the drive out
[23:46] <quince> sybiam: you have another PC (not the mac) to put the hard disk in, right?
[23:46] <quince> sybiam: oh, sorry, this is a mac you're installing ubuntu on?
[23:46] <sybiam> yes
[23:47] <sybiam> I was thinking… will installing from a PC using a PC iso for a macbook will work
[23:47] <quince> OK, sorry.  I'm pretty clueless there, I'm afraid.
[23:48] <stephanb> MonkeyDust: still doesn't work, what version do you use?
[23:48] <quince> if you're willing to use something like netboot.in, that should work
[23:48] <sybiam> I'll check that still can't believe how hard it is
[23:49] <sybiam> I can't even install windows because the dvd drive is broken
[23:50] <stephanb> hm still doesn't work... any good gtk alternatives for audacious? preferably ones where i can browse the filesystem and not only a music library
[23:50] <quince> hmm, actually, googling brings up a hit that suggests that at least some macs can't pxe boot.  Amazing.
[23:51] <quince> apple has to reinvent every little thing, grr
[23:51] <sybiam> quince: amazing yeah i've been knocking my head about that… I need to get some work programming microchips and I can't do that on osx
[23:52] <Netham45> So, I've got an ubuntu server 12.10 VM running inside Hyper-V that I'm trying to start 3 X servers on. Every time I start an X server or change VTs I see one of four cores spike up to 100% for about 5 minutes bfore it changes/loads, does anyone know what might be causing that?
[23:53] <sybiam> it's terribly frustrating but at least it's just my work computer so I didn't spend a penny on that piece of aluminum
[23:55] <Netham45> error setting MTRR (base = 0xf8000000, size = 0x00400000, type = 1) Invalid argument (22)
[23:55] <Netham45> "
[23:55] <quince> stephanb: rhythmbox?
[23:55] <Netham45> bah, but that's the only thing I can see at all.
[23:55] <stephanb> quince: i dont think you can browse your fileystem with rythmbox
[23:56] <satwood> quince: can you tell what are the typical changes from (paths, or anything more) ?
[23:58] <quince> satwood: no, sorry
[23:58] <satwood> ok
[23:58] <satwood> guys, can anyone please tell if the same conf files will work between debian and ubuntu ?
[23:59] <brontosaurusrex> stephanb: browsing with your file manager and the drag/droping to your player is what you want?
[23:59] <stephanb> brontosaurusrex: yeah, that or some way within the program to browse the filesystem, but it seems that audacious, which was my first choise cant to that with files from a samba share