[00:48] <zruty> In Gnome there is gdm, in xfce (Xubuntu) there is what ...?
[00:49] <unheeding> lightdm
[00:49] <zruty> Ah, cool. That should help... thanks!
[00:51] <David-A> zruty: in xubuntu 10.04 it seems to be gdm too, in xubuntu 12.04 it's lightdm
[01:05] <xubuntu462> New apps are no longer appearing in the xfce 4.10 menu for 1 user (me), works for other user
[01:07] <zruty> David-A: unheeding: Thanks! I think I can figure it all out from there... Had to do with custom resolution settings...
[01:08] <unheeding> no problem
[01:08] <unheeding> rely on us, the experts
[01:08] <unheeding> ;)
[01:10] <xubuntu462> apt-get install playonlinux does not add pol to the menu for me, but does for 2nd user, any clues?
[01:21] <xubuntu605> Will there be a non-pae 32 bit kernel available for this release?
[04:13] <kareti> i have a problem. the notification area shows up all the time and the key board will not take continious input
[04:13] <kareti> can any one help me please.
[09:09] <nicekiwi> is there a master file somewhere containing the full UserName for my system? As in my personal name used in the logout menu? I accidently made a 'case' typo and now I cant fix it
[09:09] <koegs> nicekiwi: /etc/passwd
[09:13] <nicekiwi> koegs, ty
[09:17] <gour> morning
[09:20] <gour> recently i moved away from arch and tried for a short period of time pc-bsd (9.1rc2), but decided to return back to linux and installed linux mint (xfce)..however some user asked me why not ubuntu which might have more support and i wonder what is the relationship of xubuntu with ubuntu? saw there was some issues within xubuntu community in this year (according to wikipedia article)
[09:23] <Unit193> Xubuntu uses the same core, repos, and such as Ubuntu, just different default applications, settings and of course DE.
[09:23] <nikolam> i have too many application crash reports upon installing fresh 12.04
[09:24] <nikolam> eather reports now better catch previously unnoticed applicatoin crashes, or too many apps are untested
[09:24] <nicekiwi> nikolam, do you notice which apps crash?
[09:25] <nikolam> today it is filezilla. Worked fine for a job, except that it put like 2 crash reports in between. I suppose its not big deal..
[09:25] <nicekiwi> nikolam, so far for me only tumblr and thunar crash (alot), but not badly.
[09:26] <nikolam> I have found 2 solutions for tumblrd , eather using newer xfce from repo or upgrading to 12.10 or using apparmor
[09:26] <nikolam> (to tell him stop indexing optical drives)
[09:27] <gour> Unit193: so, all the packages/PPAs available for ubuntu are ready for xubuntu?
[09:27] <nikolam> xubuntu and ubuntu are basically the same thing, except xubuntu use another set of default packages for gui etc
[09:28] <gour> i used gentoo & arch for >10yrs and now i want something that just works 'out of the box' without too much tinkering and it's not too old like debian-stable
[09:28] <Unit193> gour: Well, that would depend on the quality of the package, and if it depends on Unity or gnome.  But otherwise it should work exactly the same.
[09:28] <nikolam> if yiu add packages depending on some GNOME parts , it will install them throug dependencies.
[09:28] <gour> nikolam: that's ok..i think about things like cinelerra etc.
[09:29] <nikolam> what about cinelerra ? I told you that is same thing. You use synaptic or software center to install. xubuntu and ubuntu use the same package repositories
[09:30] <gour> i meant stuff which is in 3rd party PPAs
[09:30] <nikolam> again. same thing. And they also have dependencies descriptions included in packages, that install required parts automatically.
[09:31] <nikolam> 3rd party PPAs usualy have 3rd party PPA manuals and support.
[09:40] <KhuduZulu> lo
[09:42] <nicekiwi> meow
[09:43] <KhuduZulu> nicekiwi: sweet..another kiwi
[09:48] <KhuduZulu> has anyone encoutered this error: error calling cwap(1)
[09:50] <nikolam> KhuduZulu, where and when
[09:52] <KhuduZulu> trying to load xubuntu on old-ish laptop
[09:52] <nikolam> KhuduZulu, how much RAM?
[09:52] <KhuduZulu> 256
[09:54] <suttiwit> hi there all
[09:54] <KhuduZulu> lo suttiwit
[09:54] <suttiwit> is ncurses (I need the library file in /usr/include) in the repository?
[09:55] <suttiwit> (12.10
[09:56] <suttiwit> is it in the repo?
[09:56] <TheSheep> !find ncurses-dev
[09:56] <suttiwit> hmm
[09:56] <TheSheep> !info libncurses5-dev
[09:57] <nikolam> KhuduZulu, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/Xubuntu#System_Requirements
[09:57] <suttiwit> okay
[09:57] <nikolam> 12.04 seems to require 512MB
[09:58] <nikolam> xubuntu should not quite count as "light distribution". Maybe as ubuntu with a smaller memory footprint and more classic and user manageable xfce
[09:59] <KhuduZulu> I gathered that much, however the http://xubuntu.org/getxubuntu/ site states that it will run on 256...
[09:59] <KhuduZulu> is there an even lighter version?
[10:00] <nikolam> KhuduZulu, well, install from alternate cd. I use alternate for raid support anyway
[10:00] <nikolam> KhuduZulu, there is one with lxde
[10:01] <nikolam> or you can install ubuntu with no GUI and add just what minimal you want or some other WM
[10:01] <nikolam> it is called lubuntu, one with lxde
[10:02] <KhuduZulu> ok, so I am fairly new to linux(or should i say, recently converted)
[10:02] <KhuduZulu> I am downloading lubuntu now, and will try that.
[10:02] <KhuduZulu> thnx for help
[10:02] <nikolam> thats all right, because ubuntu is like windows in linux world :)
[10:03] <nikolam> http://lubuntu.net/, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD  but I rather more like to use xfce, it is most powerfull for its footprint.
[10:03] <KhuduZulu> I have always been on windows, but are sold on ubunty...recently converted my house(4pc's) to ubuntu
[10:04] <nikolam> so, I choose xubuntu. You can start with 256 and later add more RAM
[10:05] <nikolam> but i sugge install from alternate CD.
[10:06] <nikolam> Also there is more free software kernels ,systems and distributions, too.
[10:06] <nikolam> KhuduZulu, see distrowatch.com to me amazed :)
[10:20] <KhuduZulu> i will check it out...thnx for the help
[10:58] <foobar55> hi all
[10:58] <foobar55> installed elvis but it needs  courier-medium-r
[10:59] <foobar55> someone know the package
[12:15] <nikolam> this climboard manager for xfce - clipman does not respond timely when clicked in tray. it is selected 50 for history
[12:18] <nikolam> also if often happens that when an app does not respond to a click , neither other respond in a short period of time
[12:18] <nikolam> like 7-8 seconds and then they start working
[12:19] <nikolam> I observed it when starting Thunar with desktop icon double-click.
[12:19] <nikolam> After that it opens like, 6 thunars after waiting for 8+ seconds
[12:59] <ewet> hi, I cannot find the xfce4-taskbar-plugin package anymore. is it hidden in a bigger package or is there a ppa?
[14:27] <SPRUCED> anyone out there able to get the mic mute button working on lenovo thinkpad x120e in xubuntu 12.04 64-bit
[14:29] <holstein> SPRUCED: mic mute?
[14:29] <holstein> SPRUCED: i would look at a larger XFCE support concern.. that would just trickle in
[14:29] <holstein> SPRUCED: i havent noticed a "mic mute" button that has ever worked
[14:30] <holstein> SPRUCED: no one here, or envloved with XFCE, or linux are preventing lenovo from providing support for that feature though
[14:31] <Yotson> nice polite wording there holstein. :)
[14:31] <holstein> SPRUCED: i would probably fire up the main ubuntu vanilla live CD running unity and test... and maybe check a few other live CD's and search around and see if anyone has that feature working on anything
[14:31] <holstein> Yotson: thanks :)
[14:32] <SPRUCED> Thanks for response, this is the first question I've asked on IRC. Are you suggesting I try another channel?
[14:32] <holstein> SPRUCED: the question is, can it be suppported? or is it just something that is a little "odd" in xfce
[14:32] <SPRUCED> seems like it requires osme tweaking
[14:32] <holstein> SPRUCED: you can.. i would want to know, will it work on *anything*.. not just xfce
[14:32] <Yotson> i would have said that most manufactures don't give a -ahum- about linux users. XD
[14:32] <Donnie> Updated and now I'm stuck at the splash screen for "Configuring network".. How do I get around that
[14:33] <holstein> Donnie: i usually wait it out... have you tried waiting?
[14:33] <Donnie> holstein: I waited it out for about 2hrs once
[14:33] <holstein> Donnie: :/ ...lemme look for what i used once
[14:33] <GridCube> SPRUCED: you can try editint the action of the fn key using keytouch editor
[14:33] <Donnie> holstein: thank
[14:33] <GridCube> !info keytouch-editor
[14:35] <mneptok> SPRUCED: where is the mic mute on the x120e?
[14:35] <holstein> Donnie: entry 24 is suggested.. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dbus/+bug/811441 ..i would research a bit more before running those commands
[14:35] <SPRUCED> It on F4 I beleive
[14:36] <mneptok> SPRUCED: F4 on my x120e is "Sleep"
[14:36] <mneptok> SPRUCED: NA/US model?
[14:36] <SPRUCED> OK it must be F3, sorry I am on a different thinkpad right now
[14:37] <mneptok> SPRUCED: oh, yeah. it looks like an "X" until you get really close and see that one of the crosspeices has a wind bulb at the top :)
[14:37] <Donnie> holstein: thank you. Now time to read :D
[14:39] <SPRUCED> I tried this post #346 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1699238&page=35 and its toggled the pulseaudio mixer a couple of times and then stopped working
[14:40] <mneptok> SPRUCED: xev doesn't even register the keypress
[14:41] <mneptok> oh, ew. there's a specialized thinkpad_acpi module. ick.
[14:41] <SPRUCED> mneptok: this registered the key press when I tried acpi_listen says Fn+F3
[14:41] <mneptok> SPRUCED: try that module, i guess.
[14:42] <SPRUCED> I did and it allowed the vol up/down to work
[14:42] <mneptok> SPRUCED: just be sure that this functionality is really inportant
[14:42] <mneptok> !info tpb
[14:42] <SPRUCED> I was just going to say...its not that important
[14:43] <SPRUCED> thanks everyone.
[14:44] <mneptok> SPRUCED: this is a nice x120e accessory - http://www.amazon.com/Perixx-PERIBOARD-804-Wireless-Bluetooth-Keyboard/dp/B005MJ6F80
[14:44] <mneptok> :)
[14:48] <ner0x> If you're using 12.04, how does one upgrade to 12.10 ?
[14:51] <holstein> ner0x: you can change the preferences in the "upgrade manager" to accept the (arguably) developmental releases, instead of just the lts releases
[14:51] <mneptok> ner0x: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo do-release-upgrade
[14:51] <holstein> ner0x: you can back up your data (as you should anyway) and fresh install, after trying the live CD
[14:51] <ner0x> So you don't trust the 12.10 ?
[14:51] <GridCube> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/upgrade
[14:52] <mneptok> ner0x: you may need to force the last command to get an non-LTS
[14:52] <holstein> ner0x: i didnt mean to imply "trust".. 12.04 is an LTS, and do you need 12.10? or do you need the LTS?
[14:52] <ner0x> holstein: Everything is put on a separate hd so backup is fine. And for the other box, it's a fresh install.
[14:53] <GridCube> ner0x: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/upgrade
[14:53] <holstein> ner0x: i only do upgrades to test.. i *always* do a fresh install after trying the live iso
[14:53] <mneptok> GridCube: welcome to #Xubuntu
[14:54] <holstein> best case scenario, after waiting for all the packages to download (maybe like 6 hours), there is no changes that has broken functionality, and the upgrade works
[14:54] <ner0x> holstein: Better off just reinstalling?
[14:54] <mneptok> ner0x: why do you need 12.10?
[14:54] <ner0x> holstein: I'm not actually upgrade my main box at home, I don't really need it.
[14:54] <holstein> otherwise, i download an iso in like 10+ minutes, and a fresh install is like 10 minutes..
[14:54] <holstein> ner0x: i prefer it. thats all im saying
[14:55] <GridCube> mneptok: do you know that xubuntu is just ubuntu with xubuntu-desktop, all non-xubuntu things are the same as ubuntu
[14:55] <ner0x> holstein: I would do the same.
[14:56] <mneptok> GridCube: seeing that i worked for Canonical, yeah, i do. :P and the very first instruction will fail because there is no Dash in Xubuntu.
[14:56] <ner0x> mneptok: I don't on my main box, it works as-is so I'm not upgrading that one. Another box I am, because of LTS. Third box is a blank HD anyway, so it's fine. Kernel 3.2 vs 3.5 though, differences?
[14:56] <mneptok> ner0x: if you want LTS, do NOT upgrade. 12.04 will have support far longer than will 12.10.
[14:57] <GridCube> mneptok: alt-f2 its basically the same
[14:57] <ner0x> mneptok: Oh, I thought that was the opposite. No big deal either way. I always fresh install.
[14:57] <mneptok> GridCube: no, because the dash lets you search. ALT-F@ requires you know to tyupe "gksudo update-manager"
[14:58] <mneptok> GridCube: also, those instrustions will not work from 12.04 to 12.10 unless default prefs get changed.
[14:58] <GridCube> gksu its not needed, and that what you want to write its given by the instruction
[14:58] <crash__> so xubuntu 12.04 is only supported for 3 instead of 5  years like the standard ubuntu? So xfce4 bugs is not fixed after 3 years but core bugs is fixed after that?
[14:59] <GridCube> ok, thats good to know mneptok, but its not the same as what you said first
[14:59] <mneptok> GridCube: you cannot say "press the windows jey is the same as alt-f2" when you do not know the experience level of the user.
[14:59] <mneptok> *key
[14:59] <GridCube> good point
[15:00] <mneptok> GridCube: please, refrain from just pasting URLs to Ubuntu documentation in #xubuntu, unless you have reviewed them.
[15:00] <mneptok> GridCube: effort is appreciated. results were just not optimal. :)
[15:01] <GridCube> mneptok: they just usually work, and in this case they should aswel
[15:14] <ner0x> So for a fresh install would everyone recommend using 12.04 ?
[15:15] <holstein> ner0x: if i wanted the LTS, i would do 12.04
[15:15] <holstein> ner0x: i would recommend trying the live CD for either first, for hardware compatibility check
[15:15] <ner0x> holstein: It's a brand new machine either way. That's fine.
[15:16] <holstein> for me, sometimes i take the path of least resistance.. and 10.04 is still "on the table"
[15:16] <hhhzzzarn> ner0x: don't do 10.04.
[15:17] <holstein> i wouldnt mind 10.04.. if the support was easier/better
[15:17] <holstein> but i would try 12.04 first
[15:21] <v1adimir> guys if anyone's bothered, i'm too thick to figure out WTH is going on, but netstat -g is showing me all-systems.mcast.net and i'm getting constant ~1KB icoming traffic that seems to be IGMP (v3); but I removed the second LAN card that seems to have instigated the whole thing (never had it b4, same pc) and today, after a cable-modem reset from my ISP, it came back (flashing the Network Monitor non-stop
[15:21] <v1adimir> , Xubu 12.04.1)
[15:22] <v1adimir> .. I've reinstalled, so it's not that; & I'm having trouble understanding / seeing what's that all about (n00b) :f
[15:23] <ner0x> I'm just going to do 12.10 lol
[15:23] <v1adimir> ner0x: there are some 'problems' with 12.10
[15:24] <v1adimir> also the Indicator Plugin is non-existent (btw)
[15:27] <Donnie> Xubuntu refuses to load. Have drive installed as slave to my windows system. Not showing in MyComputer. Need it to, so I can transfer my media from it to my windows drive, and start over with linux. How must I go about?
[15:27] <ner0x> Actually, I'm just going ot use 12.04 since it's LTS
[15:27] <v1adimir> Donnie: do you have a livecd / usb, can you run it from there?
[15:27] <holstein> Donnie: making window read the filesystem ubuntu is on
[15:27] <holstein> yeah.. using a live CD to transfer is easy Donnie
[15:28] <Donnie> I could, but is there a way to just mouth the drive?
[15:29] <v1adimir> Donnie: also if you had windows installed prior to xubuntu, you can boot from the windows cd and go to recovery command prompt only and use 'bootrec /fixboot' and 'bootrec /fixmbr' to get your windows loader back and bypass xubuntu
[15:29] <Donnie> vladimir: It's 2 separate drives
[15:29] <v1adimir> oic :S
[15:29] <holstein> Donnie: you can add the funtionality to windows to read ext4 or whatever you used
[15:29] <ner0x> Yeah, can someone explain to me how to make a 12.04 USB boot drive?
[15:30] <v1adimir> ner0x: do you have a free usb stick?
[15:30] <Donnie> holstein: No idea how to do that
[15:31] <holstein> Donnie: well, i would just use the live CD. or try http://www.webupd8.org/2011/08/access-ext4-ext3-or-ext2-partitions-in.html
[15:31] <ner0x> v1adimir: I do.
[15:31] <v1adimir> oh 'usb boot drive' lol i didn't read it.. once you boot from the cd and start xubu, just go to system - startup disk creator
[15:31] <v1adimir> @ ner0x
[15:31] <ner0x> v1adimir: Sorry, usb stick would be a more accurate description.
[15:32] <v1adimir> ner0x: yeah, cool.. startup disk creator should see the usb drive and make it for you automatically
[15:32] <ner0x> That's pretty awesome.
[15:32] <Donnie> holstein: Nice. so it's just a tiny download and it'll read? That's cool
[15:32] <v1adimir> if you run into a problem.. there's another cool util
[15:33] <holstein> Donnie: i would just use the live CD.. but you will not have out of the box support for ext4 (which is what i assume you are trying to read) from windows
[15:33] <v1adimir> ner0x: should be this one.. http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/linux/create-a-bootable-ubuntu-usb-flash-drive-the-easy-way/
[15:34] <v1adimir> but startup disk creator should work: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu && https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[15:34] <Donnie> holstein: Yeah. I just wanna read, transfer, unmount my windows drive, then format and redo linux. It' still stuck at the network, I did recovery mode and it says that Grub 3 can't be found
[15:35] <holstein> Donnie: i would just fire up a live CD.. that is capable of reading ext4 and ntfs.. and copy.. or you can read aobut and add ext support to windows... if you prefer to and insist on moving the files inside the windows OS
[15:36] <v1adimir> yeah it might be better to access the *nix file-systems through *nix and avoid the windows plugins / utils
[15:37] <v1adimir> althought i never had problems with total commander
[15:37] <v1adimir> (whatever that plugin is called, there are a couple for it)
[15:49] <hhhzzzarn> nerox: I have 12.10
[15:59] <nitroxic> hi everyone
[15:59] <nitroxic> im preparing a usb stick with UNEbootin to install in an old POS system
[16:00] <nitroxic> At a certain point i asks for the cd-rom
[16:01] <holstein> nitroxic: the live CD? which iso?
[16:01] <nitroxic> 12.04 alternate
[16:03] <nitroxic> i read somewhere that i could ad / change a parameter "cdrom-detect/try-usb=true" but i dont know where....
[16:04] <holstein> http://demtrex.wordpress.com/2011/04/04/work-around-the-cd-rom-detection-issue-when-installing-ubuntu-server/ might help
[16:04] <holstein> nitroxic: can you just use the live cd?
[16:05] <nitroxic> nope, not in this case :P
[16:05] <nitroxic> its an old POS with a celeron and 256MB ram
[16:05] <nitroxic> no optic drive, but internal hdd
[16:05] <nitroxic> have to install java based application with local database... so hdd is the best bet
[16:06] <holstein> nitroxic: can you use the live ISO via the USB stick, is what im asking
[16:06] <nitroxic> nope
[16:06] <nitroxic> an usb stick / live cd is too slow with java VM and database
[16:07] <nitroxic> and i still do not know how big the database is going to get
[16:07] <holstein> nitroxic: right.. using the usb stick method that i know you are stuck using, can you use the live CD iso instead of the alternate cd iso?
[16:07] <nitroxic> unless i can install it, like a live cd, directly in the hdd... is that possible?
[16:08] <holstein> nitroxic: its all open, anything is possible.. lets try and detiermine what migh tbe easiest
[16:08] <nitroxic> i need to strip down the installation to its minimum
[16:08] <nitroxic> only 256 MB ram ,and the app running eats up from 32 MB up :P
[16:09] <GridCube> nitroxic: why not using the minimal iso and installing xubuntu-desktop from the net?
[16:09] <holstein> yeah.. im suggesting, nitroxic , to use a more "usb" friendly iso...
[16:09] <nitroxic> does it look for the cdrom as well ?
[16:09] <nitroxic> ah... i see
[16:10] <GridCube> it looks for a network
[16:10] <nitroxic> im trying now to use the ubuntu server workaround you sent me holstein
[16:10] <holstein> nitroxic: i have always ran into that with te alternate isos, though i though it was fixed
[16:10] <holstein> thought*
[16:10] <nitroxic> nope... still a bug :P
[16:11] <nitroxic> just started a new installation....
[16:11] <holstein> well, its not really a "bug" as far as i see it.. unet is 3rd party and the iso works as intended.. but it could be addressed
[16:11] <nitroxic> but if i need a minimal ISO, where can i get it? ftp? or directly from mirror? I think i didnt see one in the portuguese mirror
[16:13] <nitroxic> i consider it a "bug", since ease of installation has allways been a standard in Ubuntu releases, and optical drives are getting out of machines nowadays
[16:14] <GridCube> !minimal
[16:14] <holstein> nitroxic: there is no "usb iso" though... it is an alternate cd image.. though i agree it should be addressed
[16:15] <nitroxic> thanks for the help Holstein, GridCube and ubottu :)
[16:15] <GridCube> P: the bot says thanks
[16:15] <nitroxic> i'll give it a go and see if i can make it run in this prehistoric POS
[16:17] <nitroxic> and again thanks everyone for the help
[16:59] <Donnie> Mounted linux drive as slave on xp. Trying to export FF bookmarks. Folder is NOT located at /home/user/.mozilla... where else could it be?
[17:01] <v1adimir> Donnie: should be there :-0
[17:01] <GridCube> it should be
[17:01] <Donnie> vladimir: Not there.
[17:01] <v1adimir> :\
[17:02] <GridCube> Donnie: explain how you mounted the drive? are you sure you are in the correct /home/user/?
[17:02] <Donnie> GridCube: I only have one folder of my username and it's not in it
[17:03] <GridCube> Donnie: how you mounted the disk?
[17:03] <holstein> Donnie: i would probaby just export. or use the sync
[17:03] <Donnie> Mounted with that ext4 program
[17:06] <Donnie> Found it. had to manually type the path in
[17:32] <Yotson> hmm. i somehow made the browser window transparent. Any shortcuts to get rid of that?
[17:32] <Yotson> bit lame but i have difficulty looking for the answer myself now. hehe
[17:33] <knome> Yotson, you probably "rolled it up"
[17:33] <knome> Yotson, try pressing the small arrowish icon on the top left of the titlebar
[17:33] <knome> Yotson, is that your problem?
[17:33] <Yotson> nope. i can see vague shadows of a web page.
[17:34] <ashNOP> Yotson, try to Alt+Scroll
[17:34] <ashNOP> with mouse wheel
[17:34] <Yotson> pfew. thanks ashNOP, knome.
[17:34] <knome> np. enjoy!
[17:35] <Yotson> touchpad here. somehow, accidentally.. lol
[17:35] <knome> that's too easy these days
[19:28] <ner0x> Is there any way to remote desktop connection your way into a xubuntu server from windows?
[19:32] <torax> I´d use ssh but if terminal is not enough, then VNC
[19:33] <ner0x> VNC from windows?
[19:34] <ner0x> Oh yeah, that's pretty cool.
[19:38] <xubuntu626> hello
[19:38] <xubuntu626> I have problems to finish installing xubuntu ... stays in the apt-clone
[19:38] <xubuntu626> anyone can help me?
[19:55] <utiuti> Greetings. Fresh install +Dropbox +KeePassX +GIMP +Chromium...
[19:55] <utiuti> ... anything I forgot?
[20:10] <Noskcaj> utiuti: xubuntu-restricted-extras
[21:09] <AdmiralSausage> Feeling really stupid but can't google the answer: how do I get past the display manager in 12.10 "Try Xubuntu"?
[21:10] <holstein> AdmiralSausage: from a live CD? its hanging when you choose that?
[21:11] <holstein> i might reboot the live CD.. tap shift after the bios screens.. look for the F6 options at the bottom and toggle "nomodeset"
[21:11] <AdmiralSausage> holstein: yes, a live cd. Not hanging but it's asking for a login and I don't have a usernam/password
[21:11] <AdmiralSausage> holstein: OK sorry it's under a VM
[21:12] <holstein> what virtualiation? what host?.. virtualbox typicaly just works
[21:12] <AdmiralSausage> all the other distros I know auto login
[21:12] <AdmiralSausage> libvirt and kvm
[21:12] <holstein> auto login?.. you mean, get to a desktop?
[21:13] <holstein> AdmiralSausage: i might confirm the md5.. or try nomodeset... i would look at the guest settings
[21:13] <AdmiralSausage> holstein: yes, in live cd mode, that's what I've come to expect..
[21:13] <AdmiralSausage> holstein: md5 confirmed. that was the 1st thing I did
[21:13] <AdmiralSausage> ok will try nomodeset hang on
[21:13] <holstein> AdmiralSausage: sure, im just tring to differentiate between "not audio login" and crashing
[21:14] <holstein> those are quite different.. and i am assuming its hanging and not proceding, and ether crashing there, or just not moving on. has nothing to do with the live user not logging in... or that my assumption
[21:16] <AdmiralSausage> OK nomodeset made no difference
[21:16] <AdmiralSausage> it's not crashing
[21:16] <AdmiralSausage> I have a fully interactive display manager asking me for my credentials
[21:16] <AdmiralSausage> I can read the release notes in firefox
[21:16] <AdmiralSausage> I just can't log on!
[21:16] <AdmiralSausage> I can even ctrl-alt-f1 to a prompt
[21:17] <AdmiralSausage> where 'xubuntu' is auto-logged on
[21:17] <AdmiralSausage> I just can't get a decktop
[21:17] <AdmiralSausage> desktop even
[21:20] <GridCube> AdmiralSausage, you put you password and then it just comes back to the greeter?
[21:20] <AdmiralSausage> GridCube: I don't have a password. This is a live cd
[21:21] <GridCube> oh
[21:21] <AdmiralSausage> but it's my 1st time with xubuntu - is there a password I'm supposed to know?
[21:21] <GridCube> no
[21:21] <GridCube> not in the livecd
[21:22] <GridCube> AdmiralSausage, what do you mean then by: I have a fully interactive display manager asking me for my credentials
[21:22] <AdmiralSausage> GridCube: There is a login manager asking me for a password, to chose bewteen "xfce session" and "xubuntu session" etc
[21:22] <AdmiralSausage> lightdm I think
[21:23] <GridCube> but... thats not a livecd feature
[21:23] <GridCube> you just get the desktop
[21:23] <AdmiralSausage> GridCube: very odd then
[21:23] <GridCube> AdmiralSausage, how did you obtain your iso?
[21:24] <AdmiralSausage> f5f80e22cb1c80232efcbd8e2c5955f8  /home/pete/Desktop/xubuntu-12.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[21:24] <AdmiralSausage> That's the md5sum
[21:24] <AdmiralSausage> zsync from a UK ubuntu mirror
[21:25] <GridCube> thatf5f80e22cb1c80232efcbd8e2c5955f8 *xubuntu-12.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[21:25] <GridCube> that sounds correct
[21:26] <GridCube> AdmiralSausage, you then burned it to a cd/dvd or turned it to a usb booteable
[21:26] <GridCube> ?
[21:26] <AdmiralSausage> GridCube: No it's a vm
[21:27] <GridCube> oh... thats even weirdier
[21:27] <AdmiralSausage> GridCube: I am going to nose around in the lightdm logs and if that fails stick it on a usb pen
[21:27] <AdmiralSausage> but I'd prefer the VM
[21:27] <GridCube> AdmiralSausage, how much video memory have you given to the vm?
[21:27] <AdmiralSausage> None explicitly it's on vga
[21:27] <GridCube> maybe it needs more than 12MB
[21:28] <AdmiralSausage> think 9mb is default
[21:28] <GridCube> 12mb its the default on vboxes
[21:29] <GridCube> and it works fine
[21:29] <AdmiralSausage> GridCube: Oh genius
[21:29] <AdmiralSausage> It was actually set to "cirrus"
[21:29] <AdmiralSausage> that appears to be the default for libvirt's VMs
[21:29] <AdmiralSausage> setting it to VGA did the trick
[21:30] <AdmiralSausage> straight to a desktop
[21:30] <AdmiralSausage> thanks!
[21:30] <GridCube> :D excellent!
[21:31] <AdmiralSausage> 1st day on xubuntu but also 1st day on libvirt too :-( it's convenient but maybe I should stick to command line qemu!
[21:31] <AdmiralSausage> thanks anyway
[21:31] <AdmiralSausage> I'm off for a play in 12.10
[21:31] <AdmiralSausage> cheers
[22:28] <ner0x> If I wanted parole to play mp3 files, what would I install?
[22:28] <GridCube> xubuntu-restricted-extras
[22:28] <ner0x> Thank you.
[22:28] <ner0x> And the *-addons is what?
[22:28] <GridCube> ?
[22:28] <GridCube> what?
[22:29] <GridCube> just do sudo apt-get install xubuntu-restricted-extras
[22:29] <ner0x> I got that, I just noticed another xubuntu-restricted-addons.
[22:30] <ner0x> Nevermind though, I figured it out.
[22:30] <GridCube> :)
[22:30] <GridCube> !info xubuntu-restricted-addons
[22:30] <GridCube> oh... i guess extras adds it anyway
[22:40] <ner0x> Yeah. GUI app to make Fat32 partitions?
[22:40] <GridCube> gparted
[22:40] <ner0x> Thanks.
[22:40] <GridCube> np