[00:24] <simplew> yofel: ping
[00:37] <Kheo> hello
[00:37] <Kheo> how can I do a port forward on command line ?
[02:13] <dougtheslug> I have noticed that a few applications on Kubuntu have some issues displaying text... it looks choppy, and shifted slightly up and down
[02:13] <dougtheslug> Chromium and the GUI installer for Dropbox are the two I can remember, here are screen shots: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ahnzxreo82timf0/3_z79y3ylP
[02:17] <xixor> dougtheslug: no idea.  Do you have fonts-freefont-ttf, ttf-dejavu-extra, fontconfig, fontconfig-config installed?
[02:18] <xixor> also libfreetype6, ttf-mscorefonts-installer, ttf-ubuntu-font-family?  I'm just going through muon and checking which font packages I installed... I installed a bunch  when I first installed 12.10
[02:20] <dougtheslug> xixor: I am only missing ttf-dejavu-extra, the rest say they are installed in muon...
[02:20] <dougtheslug> I guess restart and see if i still have the issue?
[02:20] <dougtheslug> *after installing?
[02:21] <xixor> yeah, I guess
[02:25] <dougtheslug> xixor: hmm, chrome still has the issue, and the dropbox context menu for the tray icon has the same issue...
[02:25] <dougtheslug> maybe I need to configure something in the system settings?
[02:28] <dougtheslug> or if I could figure out which font chromium (not chrome, my bad) and dropbox using...
[02:31] <xixor> dougtheslug: not sure, could be the antialiassing settings?
[02:32] <xixor> System Settings->Application Appearance->Fonts.  Use anti-aliasing is the place
[02:33] <xixor> for me, I have anti aliasing enabled, click configure.  I have use sub-pixel rendering enabled, RGB, hinting style: Medium.  No execluded range.
[02:34] <xixor> dougtheslug: anyhoo, good luck, I'm off to bed
[02:34] <dougtheslug> xixor alright, thanks for your help!
[02:34] <dougtheslug> yeah, toggling it, I only the other fonts changing...
[02:35] <dougtheslug> *I only noticed the other
[02:53] <JaySee_> hi
[02:54] <JaySee_> hi
[04:01] <simplew> Riddell: ping
[04:01] <simplew> yofel: ping
[04:21] <simplew> how can i change lightdm theme so that appears like the one when isntalling ubuntu?
[05:23] <simplew> how can i do have the login screen like it appears in Ubuntu?
[05:25] <cryrain> hello everyone
[06:41] <noaXess> moorning..
[06:41] <noaXess> hey.. checkout this, can you explain? why are cpu ussage in system monitor and top different? here for apport-kde http://wstaw.org/m/2012/10/31/plasma-desktopdJ3323.png
[07:13] <msx> noaXess: don't be misguided by the graphical sysmon
[07:14] <msx> it, by itself, consumes more resources and isn't as accurate as console apps
[07:14] <noaXess> msx: jep i think so..
[07:14] <noaXess> i'm searchingfor a simple widget, that shows top ;)
[07:14] <msx> noaXess: top or htop (preferible the first) are your best friends, anything else is kiddy/windows stuff
[07:14] <noaXess> so i don't need everytime open konsole
[07:14] <msx> do you know conky?
[07:15] <noaXess> conky? no..
[07:15] <noaXess> is it a widget?
[07:15] <msx> no, something better ;)
[07:15] <msx> do you know yakuake?
[07:15] <noaXess> msx: okee... let me know ;?
[07:17] <noaXess> msx: this one http://conky.sourceforge.net/, right?
[07:18] <msx> noaXess: let me c...
[07:20] <msx> noaXess: btw, this is how i check top, i have it running all the time in a konsole in yakuake and since i do all my administrative stuff from console i use a lot yakuake (i would say i use it even more than any other graphical app except web browsers) - indeed i'm connected to irc with weechat now, a console/terminal client...
[07:20] <msx> noaXess: yes, that is
[07:21] <msx> noaXess: now check at deviantart or google images for conky and it will rock you up, trust me :) conky's great
[07:24] <msx> noaXess: for a quick cpu usage monitoring i use an applet called "System Load Viewer" by Matthew Dawson, I don't know if it's already available in Kubuntu, do an apt-cache search
[07:27] <noaXess> yakuake??
[07:29] <noaXess> msx: i use CPU Monitor (usage) and Simple CPU Sensor (termal)
[07:30] <noaXess> msx: conky installed.. testing.. ;)
[07:30] <food> I am trying to install kde 4.9 on Ubuntu 12.04 64bit. Should i add this sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports to sources.list?
[07:31] <noaXess> food: why not installing 12.10?
[07:31] <almoxarife> food: yes
[07:31] <food> noaXess, for stability
[07:32] <noaXess> food: hm.. 12.10 is stable enough for me and i use it all the day..
[07:32] <noaXess> but if you need 12.04.. let me check
[07:32] <food> thanks
[07:32] <almoxarife> food: realistically you would be better off with the 12.10 as it is lts, but as you please
[07:32] <noaXess> food: checkout this info: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.9.2
[07:33] <noaXess> food: so your info is correct.. add backports and update/upgrade
[07:33] <almoxarife> food: once you have that ppa updated then you can expect something like a 640meg d/l
[07:33] <food> Thanks for confirmation
[07:34] <food> One more question , I want to remove the Unity-Gnome Completely ...
[07:34] <food> Can you help?
[07:35] <noaXess> food: wait..
[07:37] <almoxarife> food: there is a longwinded sudo apt-get remove line that will do it, google it
[07:38] <almoxarife> food: getting back to pure ????????? <-- google that
[07:38] <food> heh Gnome is sucks
[07:38] <noaXess> almoxarife: yes.. eralier i found a website where alle the comands are on.. from ubuntu to kubuntu, back to ubuntu.. and xubuntu.. and so on..
[07:38] <food> not going back soon though
[07:38] <noaXess> can't find it.. :(
[07:39] <almoxarife> food: insure you have a viable desktop before you do it
[07:39] <noaXess> food: be shure to have konsole access, maybe over ssh
[07:40] <almoxarife> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekubuntu <- food
[07:40] <noaXess> GOT IT... psychocats ;) LOL YES
[07:40] <noaXess> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekubuntu
[07:40] <noaXess> ha.. almoxarife good teamwork
[07:40] <food>  32bit ubuntu just freeze if it is idle for few hours. Maybe bug on kernel, xorg or other things.
[07:40] <almoxarife> :) , google and google-it are my friends
[07:41] <food> ah
[07:41] <noaXess> ha and i had it in my favorites.. but to many favorites ;) LOL
[07:42] <almoxarife> noaXess: you need onboard google, 'recoll'
[07:42] <food> almoxarife, which is the minimal install (not third party software) ...
[07:42] <noaXess> almoxarife: okey..
[07:42] <food> I am reading this http://askubuntu.com/questions/153036/how-do-i-install-only-the-kde-desktop-and-not-apps-on-unity
[07:42] <almoxarife> food: qtrazor/razor-qt?
[07:43] <almoxarife> food: razor runs kde apps, so all the hard work is already done once kde is on the platform
[07:43] <noaXess> almoxarife: maybe i just to open my eays and realize that my bookmarks folder "linux" has a subfolder called "ubuntu" HEHE..
[07:44] <almoxarife> noaXess: i was able to forget where anything was once i had 'recoll' setup correctly
[07:44] <food> Okay, First installing KDE then removing gnome!
[07:45] <noaXess> food: yea.. install kubuntu-desktop should do the job.. and then remove with comamnd fomr psychocats
[07:45] <almoxarife> food: you want to insure you can login to it first,
[07:45] <food> okay
[07:45] <noaXess> food: also, to be on the safe side, install openssh-server and text ssh connection to that machine from another one.. if you have one.. ;)
[07:45] <food> I see i have only 3 link on the sources.list
[07:46] <almoxarife> food: you may also need to install kdm in place of gdm/lightdm, not sure if that wipe affects either
[07:47] <almoxarife> noaXess: no gui?
[07:47] <noaXess> almoxarife: just to be safe, if gui isn't working..
[07:47] <almoxarife> noaXess: i meant on the ssh connection
[07:48] <noaXess> almoxarife: you have command :)
[07:48]  * almoxarife cli's with a gui
[07:48] <noaXess> i always work in command line on my servers... i i get a ssh connection.. if not.. i need to go into my car and drive long ways.
[07:49] <almoxarife> noaXess: i got one server, the HTC, and its in the house
[07:49] <food> I am trying to get the full source from http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/generate.php not sure if it is different for 64 and 32 bit. I first installed the 64bit Ubuntu
[07:50] <noaXess> almoxarife: ? if you have another machne that works.. so connect over ssh is to recover things.. or if on the same machine switch to cli with ALT-F1, but you know that already i think ;)
[07:50] <almoxarife> ok, 3, voip/router
[07:50] <almoxarife> noaXess: i do connect to the htc via ssh/putty
[07:51] <almoxarife> can i ssh into a kindle/rooted i wonder?
[07:51] <food> kde-plasma-desktop - KDE Plasma Desktop and minimal set of applications
[07:52] <almoxarife> food: that's a matter of personal preference now, i use a lot of kde so have a hefty kde
[07:52] <food> I see
[07:53] <almoxarife> food: but when on the road its qtrazor or openbox
[07:53] <food> Okay now i get error: kde-plasma-desktop : Depends: plasma-desktop (>= 4:4.9.1) but it is not going to be installed . Perhaps missing sources?
[07:53] <almoxarife> food: you familiar with kde?
[07:53] <food> yeah
[07:53] <food> using it for long time
[07:54] <almoxarife> food: install plasma-desktop then
[07:54] <almoxarife> food: the dependencies thing is a matter of not having the cart before the horse
[07:55] <food> ?
[07:55] <almoxarife> nevermind
[07:56] <almoxarife> food: you may need to install the core's before anything else, they should pickup the dependencies as they install
[07:57] <food> almoxarife, which package is that? May it be missing any sources list from sources.list? I saw it has only 3 links there
[07:58] <almoxarife> food: not sure about the names in ubuntu, i don't use it, but search for 'core' with synaptic
[09:14] <simplew> i have installed kubuntu but i would like to have the ubuntu login screen, what i need to do?
[09:15] <lordievader> simplew: sudo apt-get install kdm
[09:15] <lordievader> simplew: 12.10 no longer has KDM as default, Light-DM is now the default login manager.
[09:15] <simplew> lordievader: i said i want ubuntu login screen, certainly that would no imply to isntall de kde app like kdm
[09:16] <almoxarife> simplew: certainly would in kde like desktop envo
[09:16] <lordievader> simplew: I'm sorry it seems i misunderstood the question, do you mean the Light-DM then, since that has been the standard Ubuntu login manager since 11.04.
[09:17] <simplew> lordievader: i have lightdm, but i dont have the ubuntu login screen, whats missing?
[09:18] <simplew> lordievader: appears to me its some theme package but i dont which is
[09:19] <lordievader> simplew: There are two packages that might help you with this: unity-greeter and lightdm-gtk-greeter.
[09:19] <almoxarife> simplew: re-install lightdm, is it the only login manager installed?
[09:20] <simplew> lordievader:  lightdm-gtk-greeter. isnt because i have it already instaleld
[09:20] <simplew> lordievader: im gg to try the other one
[09:21] <simplew> lordievader: it requires a llot of packages...hummm
[09:21] <tsimpson> simplew: edit /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf and changing "greeter-session" from "lightdm-kde-greeter" to "lightdm-gtk-greeter" should do it
[09:21] <tsimpson> I'm sure there's a GUI way, but that's the way I know
[09:21] <lordievader> tsimpson: To think that it would be that simple :)
[09:22] <simplew> ok im gg to test it
[09:26] <simplew> tsimpson: lightdm-gtk-greeter has nothing to do with ubuntu login screen :)
[09:28] <simplew> but something is needed to do after doing changes in /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf, because when i logout i continued with the same login screen, and since there was no option to restart X in the login screen i was froeced to reboot and then i saw the lightdm gtk login which its far different from the one used in ubuntu, now after doing changes in the .conf file what service is needed to restart so that changes can be applied?
[09:30] <lordievader> simplew: From a tty you can run, sudo service lightdm restart.
[09:31] <simplew> why unity and gtk lightdm dont appear in "kcmshell kcm_lightdm"?
[09:32] <lordievader> simplew: Btw I do think you need the unity-greeter package. That is what I have in my /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf file.
[09:36] <simplew> lordievader: thats kill kde session... but after i isntalled unity-greeter it didnt changed /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf, so i had to do it manually, strange there isnt some app to do this and that unity-greeter and lightdm-gtk-greeter do not appear in "kcmshell kcm_lightdm"...
[09:53] <food> I did an extra thing. I chrooted the iso and installed the kde , plus removed gnome completely. Also i installed ubiquity-fronten-gtk . But when testing the iso on my vm the installer is not comming up anymore.
[09:54] <food> almoxarife, Can you help me please?
[09:55] <almoxarife> food: help with?
[09:56] <food> ubiquity GUI(The Ubuntu installer) is not coming up anymore.
[09:57] <almoxarife> food: ubiquity is what?
[09:58] <food> Ubuntu installer(Try Ubuntu, Install ubuntu)
[09:59] <food> http://pastebin.com/at2jw34m
[10:00] <food> syslog
[10:01] <almoxarife> food: no, i won't be installing ubuntu, i thought we discussed kde and insuring you could log in prior to any deletes?
[10:02] <almoxarife> food: what am i looking at? a borked gnome session?
[10:03] <food> I have chrooted the iso and installed kde then i made the iso again , also removed gnome. It now log in KDE . But when i click on ubiquity it does not come anymore
[10:04] <almoxarife> food: why would it? you wiped it, gnome'? remember?
[10:04] <food> yeah
[10:04] <food> Only have the KDE. So for installing the iso i installed apt-get install ubiquity
[10:05] <almoxarife> food: you have a fully functional kde desktop?
[10:05] <food> installed apt-get install kde-plasma-desktop
[10:05] <almoxarife> food: you have a fully functional kde desktop?
[10:06] <food> yeah
[10:06] <tsimpson> did you install ubiquity-frontend-kde?
[10:06] <food> nah
[10:06] <tsimpson> also, why not start with the Kubuntu ISO and go from there?
[10:06] <almoxarife> alrighty then, say hasta luego to gnome/ubiqualalalala
[10:06] <food> what lanaguage ti is?
[10:07] <almoxarife> english?
[10:07] <almoxarife> i guessed
[10:07] <almoxarife> ti' threw me off
[10:07] <food> hasta luego
[10:08] <almoxarife> hasta luego= see you later (spanish)
[10:08] <simplew> i have set in /etc/sudoers sudo to NOPASSWD but muon continues prompting to enter password when hitting the Apply button, why is this?
[10:08] <simplew> food: ate a procima
[10:08] <simplew> proxima*
[10:08] <almoxarife> sim, se fosse portugues
[10:08] <tsimpson> simplew: because muon uses policykit, not sudo/kdesudo
[10:09] <simplew> tsimpson: but polkit uses the set in sudo, like synaptic does, and synaptic doesnt ask the password anymore
[10:10] <almoxarife> tsimpson: may i suggest sticking with 'synaptic' , yes its not kde, but it is reliable and just works?
[10:11] <tsimpson> simplew: it uses sudo indirectly, it's authenticated over DBus iirc
[10:11] <almoxarife> muon is one kde app i live without
[10:12] <simplew> tsimpson: if you look into polkit policies, muon should not ask a password anymore
[10:12] <simplew> its set to follow sudo grouṕ
[10:13] <tsimpson> simplew: report a bug then
[10:13] <simplew> and if im part of group sudo it should not ask the password anymore, that makes no sense
[10:14] <almoxarife> oh, did i tell you all i rooted my kindle 6.3.1 to android via kde and yes, took some googling to get all the conf stuff right, but i got me a 200 dollar android tablet, glitch free even, thnks, the old lady didn't see relevant
[10:15] <almoxarife> food: i am guessing you have a stable kde desktop now
[10:16] <simplew> tsimpson: seams an issue in kde, when running "kcmshell4 kcm_polkitactions" and click to see a policy it also asks for the password and it should not do it, ill look at this with more attention later
[10:18] <tsimpson> simplew: it's probably polkit-kde-1 then
[10:18] <simplew> it shouldnt even ask a apssword if i didnt set to NOPASSWD in sudoers, since im simply clicking to view a policy, this is definitly a bug
[10:20] <simplew> tsimpson: and by the way, running dolphin as root continues to not allowing to run kde apps from it, and im referring to KDE apps only
[10:21] <food> almoxarife, yeah , But the same i tried to customized the ISO
[10:48] <newbodhi> Codeweavers Crossover Office 11 is free today, you can get your copy from their website :)
[11:20] <svspl> any idea why kernel 3.2.0-32 and 3.2.0-33 doesn't work after upgrade from 3.2.0-31?
[11:20] <svspl> it displays * Starting to configure network device [ OK ] and then hangs
[11:21] <almoxarife> missing headers?
[11:21] <svspl> image/headers/source, everything is installed
[11:22] <almoxarife> is the kernel from a ppa? svspl
[11:23] <svspl> from official repo
[11:24] <svspl> I'm using 3.2.0 as long as I remember, 20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31 and problem starts with 32 and 33
[11:24] <almoxarife> svspl: is there  a distinct diff between 31 and 32?
[11:25] <almoxarife> svspl: a stated diff, not the obvious :)
[11:25] <svspl> dunno
[11:25] <almoxarife> me either
[11:26] <almoxarife> svspl: what version of ubuntu?
[11:29] <svspl> 12.04.1 LTS i386
[11:29] <svspl> i got a clue on another channel to disable networking, gonna try it out, brb
[12:26] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:28] <Mailman> So I was in here yesterday with a screen brightness problem. The solution was to download newer drivers. It fixed that problem, but now it won't wake from sleep. I'm on an Acer Aspire One which has an AMD Radeon HD 6290.
[12:35] <food> everything solved at least .... It is my day :)
[12:41] <snikker> hi, i've got this error: Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0" can yo help me to fix it?u
[12:42] <BluesKaj> snikker, how and when does this error appear ?
[12:45] <snikker> BluesKaj: when i run glxinfo or pdfcube
[12:46] <BluesKaj> snikker, but otherwise your desktop works ok ?
[12:48] <BluesKaj> snikker, have you installed the recommended driver in kmenu>apps>system>additional drivers?
[12:48] <snikker> BluesKaj: yes, but all wich opengl doesn't work
[12:49] <snikker> BluesKaj: i've got nvidia proprietary drivers
[12:49] <tsimpson> snikker: make sure you have libgl1-mesa-glx installed, it should be automatically installed
[12:50] <snikker> tsimpson: libl1-mesa-glx are installed
[12:50] <BluesKaj> snikker, where did you install the drivers from ?
[12:50] <snikker> BluesKaj: from ubuntu repositories
[12:51] <BluesKaj> snikker, nvidia-current  ?
[12:52] <BluesKaj> snikker, I suggest you follow tsimpson's advice , above
[12:52] <snikker> BluesKaj: at this moment i've got nvidia-current-updates, but i've also triednvidia-current
[12:53] <Mailman> So I was in here yesterday with a screen brightness problem. The solution was to download newer drivers. It fixed that problem, but now it won't wake from sleep. I'm on an Acer Aspire One which has an AMD Radeon HD 6290.
[12:54] <snikker> BluesKaj: i've already tried tsimpson's advice but nothing change
[12:55] <BluesKaj> you may have to reboot , snikker
[12:56] <BluesKaj> also run sudo nvidia-xconfig
[12:56] <snikker> BluesKaj: i've already rebooted my machine
[13:00] <BluesKaj> snikker, if you didn't have the libgl1-mesa-glx installed with nvidia-current then you don't know that driver wasn't working for you.
[13:02] <snikker> BluesKaj: i've installedlibgl1-mesa-glx and nvidia-current-updates
[13:04] <snikker> try another rebbot
[13:04] <snikker> *reboot
[13:39] <snikker> now say me that the nvidia driver is activated but not currently in use
[13:39] <BluesKaj> snikker, nividia-current-updates isn't always helpful. It can cause problems for some cards so I stopped using it.
[13:40] <snikker> BluesKaj: ok, now i install nvidia-current and reboot
[15:12] <vmzo> when i quit plasma-desktop with kquitapp and i start it again using "alt+F2", my system tray gets streched like that: http://i.imgur.com/NrcRD.png
[19:46] <W8_4Sleep> I was having a problem with my DWA-140 USB wireless was quite unstable and got "inactive" (but still connected it seemed) after just a few minutes... I found a fix on the net but it doesn't seem that this info is anywhere on the ubuntu forums
[19:46] <W8_4Sleep> is there a way I can add it ?
[20:34] <vadrao> can anybody please let me know what is the window decoration used in this http://opendesktop.org/CONTENT/content-pre1/154245-1.jpg
[20:49] <Fanfare> How to add a sensor to systemmonitor?
[20:49] <Fanfare> I'm missing some battery sensors...
[20:53] <opapo> I am running 11.04 and I want to upgrade to 11.10
[20:54] <opapo> I run "kubuntu-devel-release-upgrade" and it says "No new release found"
[20:54] <BluesKaj> opapo, sudo do-release-upgrade
[20:55] <opapo> I run "sudo do-release-upgrade" and it says "No new release found"
[20:55] <BluesKaj> it's not a devel release
[20:55] <opapo> BluesKaj: still no dice
[20:56] <opapo> is there a repository or package I'm missing?
[20:56] <BluesKaj> opapo, open your package manager , look into the release/upgrades options , and set it to normal instead of LTS
[20:57] <BluesKaj> upgrade manager
[21:00] <BluesKaj> opapo, 11.04 is not an LTS , so the upgrade manager should work
[21:01] <opapo> BlueKaj: I look at kpackagekit and don't see that option to look for normal releases
[21:01] <opapo> is there a file I can look at or another gui I can use?
[21:02] <BluesKaj> look for update-manager-kde opapo
[21:03] <opapo> neither update-manager-kde nor update-manager work
[21:03] <opapo> I get "command not found"
[21:04] <opapo> installing it now
[21:06] <opapo> BluesKaj: Thanks I am upgrading now
[21:07] <opapo> I have run out of space in /boot
[21:07] <opapo> Can I delete the old abi-2.6.38-<16 files
[21:08] <opapo> and such
[21:09] <yofel> opapo: rather remove the kernels with apt
[21:12] <opapo> yofel: thanks
[21:13] <opapo> why are old kernels not removed when new ones are installed?
[21:14] <yofel> there is always a chance that *something* goes wrong, so they're kept to prevent an un-bootable system
[21:31] <marisa> Hey all. I just installed java-jre manually, how do i tell kubuntu that it does infact exist so I can run, say java -jar something from konsole
[21:38] <Marius80> hi
[21:39] <Marius80> Could someone please tell me how I can tell KDE4 to make a border around minimized windows?
[21:39] <Marius80> I used the theme "Vintage" which is exactly what I wanted,  the only bad thing is that there are no borders around the minimized windows in the taskbar
[21:49] <DarthFrog> Marius80: I don't know that I've ever seen any.  Other than when the mouse runs over them.
[21:49] <Marius80> DarthFrog, it usally seems to depend on the theme in use
[21:50] <Marius80> DarthFrog, I can tell you where the option was in KDE3
[21:50] <Marius80> kcontrol -> Desktop -> Taskbar
[21:50] <Marius80> there was something called "Appearance"
[21:50] <Marius80> setting this from "Elegant" to "Classic" made the borders show up
[21:50] <DarthFrog> Marius80:  KDE3 is ancient history. :-)
[21:50] <Marius80> heh, I still use it
[21:51] <Marius80> and before I switch to kde4,  I need to solve these little problems
[21:51] <Marius80> otherwise there is trinity desktop available *heh*
[21:56] <DarthFrog> Is Trinity still being maintained?
[21:57] <Marius80> DarthFrog, yes,  Slavek brouht up the very last version a few days ago
[21:57] <Marius80> DarthFrog, Ubuntu 12.04 is supported now
[21:57] <Marius80> beside some other distros
[21:58] <Marius80> DarthFrog, Ubuntu 12.10 will be supported soon
[22:00] <DarthFrog> I'm glad to hear it's still available for those who want it.  I never had any problems with the KDE 4 series.
[22:01] <DarthFrog> KDE 4.9.2 comes with Kubuntu Quantal.  I find it to be very good.  No issues whatsoever.
[22:03] <Marius80> DarthFrog, actually its rather okay, just a few things are bad
[22:03] <Marius80> DarthFrog, example:  the first minimized window gets a large button
[22:03] <DarthFrog> Bad?  Or just not to your liking?
[22:04] <Marius80> actually bad,  since I don't like 'em
[22:04] <Marius80> :)
[22:04] <Marius80> if there is more that one window minimized,  the buttons referring to the minimized windows in the taskbar have the right size
[22:04] <Marius80> but when there is only one window minimized,  the button referring to this window is laaaaarge
[22:04] <Marius80> and thats ugly :|
[22:06] <DarthFrog> Beauty is in the eye of the beer-holder.
[22:07] <Marius80> heh
[22:07] <Marius80> DarthFrog, is english your first language?
[22:07] <DarthFrog> No, Canadian is. :-)
[22:07] <Marius80> lol,  ok so it's canadian english
[22:08] <Marius80> DarthFrog, could you tell me some search phrases I could use in google?
[22:08] <DarthFrog> For what?
[22:08] <Marius80> for this border thingy
[22:08] <Marius80> I tried:
[22:08] <Marius80> kde4 border around minimized windows
[22:08] <Marius80> kde4 border taskbar
[22:08] <Marius80> kde4 border panel windows
[22:08] <Marius80> do I search for something wrong?
[22:09] <Marius80> maybe I am just missing the right word
[22:09] <DarthFrog> Sounds like you've covered the bases.  Perhaps trying just KDE instead of KDE4.
[22:10] <Marius80> k I'll try that out
[22:10] <Marius80> thank you so far
[22:10] <Marius80> DarthFrog, by the way, the main developer is just in #trinity-desktop
[22:10] <Marius80> we are chatting at the moment
[22:11] <DarthFrog> Good luck.
[22:12] <rsolma> hello. how do you install faenza for kubuntu?
[22:12] <DarthFrog> It is, of course, possible that KDE 4 can't yet do what you're wanting.  You could always suggest it as an enhancement.
[22:12] <DarthFrog> rsolma: What is faenza?
[22:13] <rsolma> an icon theme
[22:13] <Marius80> sorry, me again
[22:13] <Marius80> little question:
[22:13] <Marius80> I downloaded Kubuntu 12.04  and got a little scratch in the CD
[22:13] <DarthFrog> rsolma:  "apt-cache search faenza" turned up nothing.
[22:13] <rsolma> sec
[22:14] <Marius80> if I would md5sum the CD before installing,  could I find out if the CD is still okay?
[22:14] <Marius80> or shall I download and burn it from new?
[22:14] <DarthFrog> Marius80: There is an option on the initial screen to check the validity of the CD.
[22:15] <rsolma> http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=143890
[22:15] <DarthFrog> Marius80: If it passes that check, you're fine.
[22:15] <rsolma> its the most popular icon theme
[22:15] <yofel> Marius80: I fear I don't know how to do what you want, but in KDE4 the panel is rendered by plasma(-desktop) and the taskmanager look mostly depends on the theme as far as I know
[22:15] <DarthFrog> rsolma: On that page, there's a link to an installation script.
[22:16] <yofel> so maybe best look for a theme that does what you want?
[22:16] <yofel> (sadly borders seem outdated these days :( )
[22:16] <yofel> (as are colored icons :( )
[22:16] <Marius80> yofel, how bad :(
[22:16] <DarthFrog> rsolma: Looks nice, though.
[22:17] <rsolma> how do i use a installation script
[22:17] <Marius80> yofel, I really had to search long to find vintage which looks pretty much like kde3
[22:17] <rsolma> on a lighter note, kubuntu12.10 seems lik a rock solid release
[22:18] <yofel> rsolma: try to install it from the icon settings
[22:19] <yofel> there is an 'get new themes' and 'install theme file' button
[22:22] <rsolma> how do you download the script
[22:22] <DarthFrog> yofel: Unfortunately, neither faenza nor kfaenza turns up with "Get new Themes".
[22:22] <rsolma> nope
[22:22] <rsolma> it doesn work
[22:22] <rsolma> but it works manually
[22:22] <DarthFrog> rsolma: It is a link to a pastebin.  You'd have to do a screen-scrape and copy to a file.
[22:23] <yofel> DarthFrog: http://people.ubuntu.com/~yofel/pics/downl.png ?
[22:25] <DarthFrog> yofel: Doesn't work for me???  Strange.
[22:25] <yofel> you did open the search from the icon settings?
[22:25] <yofel> not workspace theme or ...?
[22:25] <DarthFrog> Window decorations.
[22:25] <yofel> wrong
[22:26] <yofel> application appearaince -> icons
[22:26] <rsolma> what is your fav icon theme
[22:26] <rsolma> this is addressed to evrybody
[22:26] <DarthFrog> yofel: Thanks.  That worked.  How can you tell that I rarely deal with the desktop? :-)
[22:27]  * yofel as a dev kinda just sticks to stock oxygen
[22:27] <yofel> I liked the old oxygen icons better though
[22:28] <yofel> DarthFrog: I just followed: http://xkcd.com/627/ ;P
[22:28] <rsolma> http://alecive.deviantart.com/art/kAwOken-244166779
[22:28] <rsolma> this is my fav icon theme
[22:29] <DarthFrog> yofel:  :-)  yeah, that's what I do, too.
[22:29] <yofel> ok, I do know more about system settings than most people. The settings placement is rather unintuitive sometimes :/
[22:29] <rsolma> does kubuntu work well with ati cards
[22:29] <DarthFrog> yofel: In the land of the blind, a one-eyed man is king.  It's amazing how you can get a rep as a computer guru by following that flow chart. :-)
[22:30] <yofel> indeed :D
[22:30] <DarthFrog> rsolma: I ran a Radeon HD 5770 for a few years.
[22:30] <rsolma> im thinking of using fgrlx
[22:31] <yofel> rsolma: I don't have an ATI card, but the open source driver is supposed to be somewhat usable. Catalyst support sucks, but that's an upstream issue.
[22:31] <yofel> from what I heard ATI dropped support for a few cards in the fglrx version that's in 12.10
[22:32] <yofel> so best check their hardware support list
[22:32] <DarthFrog> ATI is always dropping cards off the bottom of the Catalyst list.
[22:33] <DarthFrog> Mind you, other than for gaming, the open source radeon driver is fine.
[22:33] <yofel> rsolma: interesting icon theme - needs the right plasma theme to go with though
[22:34] <rsolma> im just doing graphic work
[22:35] <rsolma> painting
[22:42] <Marius80> re
[22:42] <Marius80> me again,  got a little question
[22:42] <Marius80> what is this error about, please?
[22:42] <Marius80> http://pastebin.com/b2f5USkp
[22:43] <Marius80> the trinity developers say,  that this error makes no sense,  since  libapt-pkg4.12 is a dependency,  and not libapt-pkg4.11
[22:43] <Marius80> beside that,  foomatic-db-compressed-ppds also gives an error
[22:43] <Marius80> the interesting thing:
[22:43] <Marius80> installing this stuff with apt-get  instead of apitutde gives _no_ error
[22:45] <yofel> aptitude is broken on amd64 in at least 12.04 due to multiarch issues
[22:48] <Marius80> yofel, may I PLEASE ask you to join #trinity-desktop and explain that to SlavekB ?
[22:49] <Marius80> he is the developer of trinity desktop
[23:07] <BarkingFish> morning guys. I don't suppose any of you here happen to know how to enable the ctrl+alt+backspace restart for the x server in kubuntu, do you?
[23:08] <OerHeks> BarkingFish, yes ido, type  in kde menu "key" > keyboard settings, 3th tab "advanced"
[23:09] <OerHeks> "key sequence to kill the x server
[23:09] <BarkingFish> excellent, thank you :)
[23:09] <BarkingFish> I was going by google and went to amend something which doesn't exist anymore :P
[23:09] <BarkingFish> google said something about amending /etc/init.d/kdm
[23:09] <OerHeks> I helped with this issue and the reason why few days ago.
[23:10] <BarkingFish> which apparently is now an upstart job, and I understand precisely 0 about upstart.
[23:10] <BarkingFish> personally, would be nice to get rid of it for me (this end, not for kubuntu as a whole) and convert everything back to using init :)
[23:14] <BarkingFish> unfortunately, I'm not skilled enough to do that, so I'm stuck with it.
[23:16] <yofel> BarkingFish: there is also a sysrequest that you can use: sysrq+k (meaning alt+print+k usually) - that'll kill everything on your current terminal (which is X usually)
[23:17] <BarkingFish> yeah, i don't want to just kill it, i want it to restart, which is why I prefer the ctrl alt bksp combo :)
[23:38] <andybrine> evening everyone
[23:38] <xixor> sup
[23:38] <BarkingFish> hi andybrine
[23:38] <andybrine> just having trouble ripping dvds
[23:39] <andybrine> i want to put dvds on my phone and with every program it crashes
[23:39] <andybrine> wondering if anyone hasw come across this before?
[23:39] <andybrine> thought this would be the best place to ask
[23:41] <andybrine> i know this is not very specific, it just seems to be every app when i go to rip
[23:42] <BarkingFish> !illegal|andybrine
[23:43] <andybrine> thankyou for letting me know
[23:43] <BarkingFish> no problem :)
[23:43] <andybrine> this is a purchased dvd ad i would like a copy on my phone
[23:44] <BarkingFish> Ripping DVDs is questionable, since most contain some form of copy protection.  If anyone else is willing to assist you, that's their call, but it would be welcomed if you could take it out of here :)  Thanks!
[23:46] <andybrine> Im not here to get into a debate i would just like to know how i can transfer information onto my phone
[23:49] <BarkingFish> I'm not creating a debate. I'm telling you that what you're asking, you won't get an answer about in here.
[23:50] <andybrine> just want assistance o how i can trasfer video files on to my phone
[23:50] <andybrine> lol
[23:50] <andybrine> there is nothing illigal when it is your own purchased cds
[23:51] <BarkingFish> that's fine - you do it by connecting your phone to your computer via USB, if it has a setting to be used as a hard drive - otherwise you can send them via bluetooth or copy to a memory card if your phone has one.
[23:53] <andybrine> !illegal sure it is :) Hahaha a world of knowledge i here tonight
[23:53] <andybrine> had no idea you could to that :s
[23:55] <andybrine> laymans answer to a complex query
[23:55] <simplew> Riddell: ping
[23:56] <BarkingFish> let me clarify the law for you, as it stands in the UK and Europe anyway:  "Whilst it is not legal to rip a DVD in the UK and Europe, you are allowed to make one backup copy of it for storage on your computer only.  That right does not extend to disassembling, reassembling, or extracting individual clips or media from that DVD"
[23:57] <andybrine> you actually realise there are legal ways to copy files from your mac onto a iphone.
[23:57] <simplew> yofel: ping
[23:57] <BarkingFish> no, I don't, because I use neither, andybrine
[23:58] <BarkingFish> I use linux and an android tablet.  I wouldn't know how to do anything with a mac and iPhone