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bupertsphereThe left panel for Unity disappeared, how do I get it back?02:24
wilee-nileeI believe it is in the top panel I'm in widows right now, or a drag from the edge.02:25
wilee-nileewindows*02:25
wilee-nileebupertsphere, ^^^02:25
bupertsphereI am talking about the panel thingy on the left that I don't know the name for02:33
bupertsphereI don't it anywhere02:33
bupertsphereI don't see the left panel on the top right02:35
wilee-nileebupertsphere, nautilus has changed in 12.10, not sure what version you are running but this link might help. http://askubuntu.com/questions/139058/nautilus-does-not-show-the-left-bar-how-do-i-turn-it-back-on02:36
wilee-nileebupertsphere, Ah my mistake the left panel of unity, what version of ubuntu are you running02:37
bupertsphere12.0402:37
wilee-nileebupertsphere, Have you added graphic drivers or messed arpound in compiz?02:38
wilee-nileearound*02:38
bupertsphereI don't think so02:38
wilee-nileebupertsphere, You can reset unity with alt-f2 then type in unity --reset try that if the command opens02:39
bupertsphereWhat if I just try restarting. I tried alt-F2 and nothing happened for me02:44
holsteinbupertsphere: when you hit "alt F2", nothing pops up?02:44
wilee-nileebupertsphere, I would reboot to confirm this yeah, unity sometimes has needed a adjustment in the right click menu backgrounds second tab for pressure on the left side as well.02:45
bupertspherewhen I hold down alt the top panel gets hightlighted02:45
wilee-nileeholstein, Hey man good to see your help here.02:45
holsteinwilee-nilee: o/ likewise!02:46
bupertsphereI will be back02:46
wilee-nileeholstein, I switched to gnome 3 a while back so I'm a bit rusty on unity.02:47
holsteinwilee-nilee: you like it?02:48
wilee-nileeholstein, Yeah, either is quite usable it just seems easier to maintain as far as window focus, and i had a cube all setup and other tweaks and would loose the windows top panel at times, which a restart with the fusion icon fixed, but the window focus with all the tweaks was a little problematic.02:49
holsteini dont use compiz anymore.. i let the cubes and fire go02:50
wilee-nileeholstein, Yeah, it took me forever to figure that cube stuff and tweaking out so I used it for awhile, but gnome 3 I have gotten used to in the end, I'm on W7 right now I was using word to write some paper stuff.  I bought the upgrade to W8 and it kept crashing so I stuck W7 back in. I rarely use windows except for word.02:52
holsteini dont use either unless i have to, or im fixing one... but i checked out the win8 developer preview02:53
wilee-nileeI used to help the dual booters on the forum thats why I got windows in the first place, it was a upgrade 25$ for W7 pro.02:53
holsteini bought xp, whenever that was02:54
holsteini have that installed in virtualbox02:54
wilee-nileeI actually started with ubuntu when I went back to college I had never even used windows, had I gotten windows I would probably be a user of the OS primarily, hehe glad I got to know open source first.02:55
bupertsphereSorry I got side tracked with an un-realted keyboard problem02:56
bupertsphereIt worked02:56
bupertsphereTY02:56
bupertsphereBy the way I am on my brother's computer setting up Ubuntu 12.04, this is r4y02:57
bupertsphereThe left panel came back after restarting02:57
wilee-nileecool02:58
bupertsphereI meant un-related02:58
bupertsphereTY guys02:58
bupertsphereI need to go02:58
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bupertsphereI didn't switch to Unity because I felt trapped a little, but I installed Ubuntu 12.04 on my brother's computer. I liked being able to drag and drop icons for programs to the desktop and top and bottom panels when using Ubuntu 10.04 and I don't want to force my brother to switch to the older gui with Ubuntu 12.04, but I guess he could if he wanted which I didn't think of until just now08:51
bupertsphereI forgot08:51
bupertsphereAnd create launchers, as well as have more options in appearance and being used to the old setup08:52
bupertsphereIt's not like I know if or if not Unity can do these things.08:53
bupertsphereI am guessing it does08:53
bupertsphereHow?08:53
wilee-nileebupertsphere, desktop launchers?08:54
bupertsphereYes08:54
bupertspherehttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=196286208:54
bupertsphereI don't know if the link will help me08:55
wilee-nileehttp://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-create-desktop-launchers-in-ubuntu-11-10oneiric.html  says 11.10 but works in 12.0408:56
wilee-nileepart B in that link is the same as my link08:57
bupertsphereAh, I see08:58
wilee-nileethe icon may appear but if you click on the icon in the launcher setup gui it takes you to pixmaps where there are launcher icons08:58
wilee-nileesome things need the browse to find the app some will launch with just the name of it.08:59
bupertsphereright, I think I know hwat you mean09:00
bupertspherelike boabao or however it's named09:00
bupertsphereafter the African tree09:01
bupertsphereI believe I am talking about the disk usage analyzer09:02
bupertspherewhich has a different name like you are saying09:02
bupertsphereFind out by dropping an icon into the terminal09:02
bupertsphereIf not then open alacarte which I am not sure Unity uses09:03
wilee-nileeHehe I'm in windows right now I forget the areas apps are it has been a long day my brain is dead.09:03
bupertsphereIt doesn't matter, I hear you09:04
bupertsphereI am brain dead most of the time anyways and improvise as I go09:04
bupertspherehe he he09:04
bupertsphereYou seem to be doing well regardless09:05
bupertsphereI made a text file on a flash drive for the link for me to help my brother out09:05
bupertsphereI thought that the guide was also showing how to make a launch for making a launcher, how could the command be changed to work as a launched command for a launcher?09:10
bupertsphereI wasn't paying close enough attention09:11
wilee-nileeI use a app called synapse which brings up a gui for finding apps by hitting the ctrl-space keys09:12
bupertspherekeys?09:12
wilee-nileethe super key brings up the dash search in the unity desktop.09:13
wilee-nileekeyboard keys09:13
bupertspherecool09:13
bupertsphereinstalling09:14
bupertsphereOK, now what09:15
wilee-nileeif you are installing synapse it has a drop down of a list of what is found with a cople letters hit with the down arrow key09:15
wilee-nileesynapse?09:15
wilee-nileehit the ctrl then space key after to enable it the first time from the dash or menu if you are in 10.0409:16
bupertsphereI am running 1209:17
bupertspherewhich worked09:17
wilee-nileehit the super key the type syanapse and load it after that just hit the ctrl-space with ctrl held down09:17
wilee-nileesynapse*09:18
bupertsphereWhat are you saying with you last reply?09:18
bupertsphereI mean synapse*09:19
wilee-nileedid you get synapse to launch with the key presses?09:19
bupertsphereyes09:19
bupertsphereit popped up on the left as well before that and I clicked on it09:19
wilee-nileecool, synapse just needs to be launched from the menu the first time usually09:19
wilee-nileethe search gui has a prefrences as well in the top right corner09:20
bupertsphereI see, neat09:21
bupertsphereit has pastebin09:21
bupertsphereor something like that09:22
bupertsphereThe launcher works, I couldn't find the icon I wanted for the game I was trying to put on his desktop for kollision09:26
wilee-nileeI like synapse or I have a dock on the bottom as well, but I use gnome 3 not unity, I like the desktop basically clear of launchers personally09:28
bupertsphereI try to keep it simple as well09:29
ArchaicalGreetings..... INFIDELS!!!!09:29
wilee-nileeI'm doing graduate work so mainly I have some quick access files with info for writing the papers, usually kit is completely clean.09:30
wilee-nileeit*09:30
bupertsphereI have system monitor, kollision, lock screen, the terminal, and something else on the top panel, then on the desktop I have some folders and an icon to the atri800 emulator09:30
Archaicalulghh... graduate work... (pukes from shear memories alone)09:31
wilee-nileeits not fun all the time that is for sure. ;)09:31
ArchaicalI keep a retardidly clean kit myself.09:31
bupertsphereI need to go, thank you very much for the help09:31
wilee-nileeno problem09:31
Archaicalnn bupertsphere.09:32
bupertspherebye :) /09:32
Archaicalfor the life of me i can't recall how to force bad names when samba users log in with Capital names in an PDC environment...  anyone give me a hint?09:33
wilee-nileeArchaical, This channel is really quiet you might try the main channel or ##linux09:34
Archaicalits ok im in no rush, still tinkering with a few settings in /etc/adduser.conf09:35
wilee-nileecool09:35
Archaicaljust thought someone might have a hint =P09:35
wilee-nileeI have never had to use samba myself09:35
ArchaicalI have a pretty complex home environment and if i had to manually create shares based on which family member was over visiting and wanted access to say the family picture archive i'd go nuts.09:36
Archaicalbut i had to write a script that symlinked lowercase to uppercase to get around how to do it "the right way" and now im going back to do it the right way lol....09:36
wilee-nileehehe my family is really small and we all avoid each other, we could not be more different then each other.09:38
Archaicalhehe, i wish my family avoided me.... i might actually get a bit of rest then.. Seems like i married and inherited a huge family of tech-handicapped persons who are now hell-bent on sucking the very life blood from my veins.  I was already a bit obsessed with organizing my digital life and since my physical family has grown in the last 10 years it seems like my digital life has too09:43
Archaical.  I was tasked a few years back with archiving the family pictures / videos / etc and so i do it here at my home on a few systems, so when family members come over they want to browse and what-not.  creating permissions for everyone would have been easier i think but i've always been security minded and would rather require individual permissions based on criteria.... anyway enough09:43
Archaicalof that.. =D09:43
Ross-Chi I don't know if anyone can help me I am reall struggling to get app_swift to install/compile with asterisk on my ubuntu server 12.04 / adhearsion dev box.  If anyone can help me it will be much appreciated.11:07
shirishhi guys11:37
shirishi have a question if someone can answer.. i upgraded my ubuntu 12.04 to 12.10 now when i boot ..it boots to tty login screen then to the desktop11:38
shirishis there any way to boot directly to desktop11:39
shirishthat behaviour was not there in 12.0411:39
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MailmanI updated my graphics drivers yesterday to fix a screen brightness problem, but now my laptop won't wake from sleep. I'm on an Acer Aspire One running Kubuntu.12:51
blazemoreMailman: edit the file /etc/default/grub12:53
blazemoreEdit the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT parameter to include pciehp.pciehp_force=112:53
blazemoreSave the file12:53
blazemoreRun update-grub212:53
blazemoreInstall a new linux-backports-modules-karmic package running the following command in terminal: sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-karmic (You'll need to reboot after this is done.)12:53
blazemoreSorry s/karmic/quantal12:53
MailmanThe GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT is currently set as "quiet splash". Do I append as "quiet splash pciehp.pciehp_force=1"?12:57
blazemoreexactly that, yes12:57
MailmanI'm sorry, what's the full second command?13:06
blazemoresudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-quantal13:08
blazemorepossible13:08
MailmanE: Unable to locate package linux-backports-modules-quantal13:09
philinuxthere are no backports modules in quantal13:34
MailmanClearly.13:35
MailmanThus my problem stands.13:36
philinuxMailman: what i meant was there used to be a few in older releases13:36
MailmanOkay.13:37
MailmanI'm still left without a solution.13:37
MailmanSeems to be a running theme in my brief experience with Linux.13:38
philinuxMailman: i'd ask in #ubuntu there's more activity in there13:38
MailmanI did, they didn't respond.13:38
MailmanI'll ask again after lunch.13:39
philinuxmaybe the peeps in there at the time dont have an answer13:39
MailmanThat's why I'm gonna wait.13:39
philinuxMailman: also raise a thread in here http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=33113:40
philinuxI have an Acer 1410 - nice machines13:41
philinuxMailman: although i never use suspend or hibernate13:42
philinuxin fact I only have the suspend option in the drop down menu13:42
MailmanI like this one, it's compact and fits perfectly in my bag. Linux runs orders of magnitude more smoothly than Windows. I just keep running into problems like this.13:43
MailmanI sleep mine a lot because I don't use it in every class and can never seem to find an open outlet.13:43
philinuxAsk in the forums. A few irons in the fire wont hurt13:44
MailmanAnd I usually sleep it at night instead of shutting down since it's faster.13:44
philinuxMailman: really, shutdown here is a few seconds13:45
MailmanIt's the startup that takes a while. Not sure why.13:45
philinuxMailman: edit the grub line and remove quiet splash, for one boot only, see where it hangs in the boot process13:46
philinuxhow long boot are we talking, mine takes about 35 secs13:47
MailmanEh, mine's only a little longer than that.13:47
philinuxto login screen which i think is fine compared to windows13:48
philinuxnormal then13:48
MailmanIf I hit enter right away at the grub screen.13:48
philinuxsounds fine13:48
philinuxthese are not powerful machines13:48
Mailmanlike, 45-55ish seconds I think. Never really timed it.13:49
philinuxMailman: just time to make a brew !13:49
MailmanI think it booted faster before I switched to Kubuntu.13:49
MailmanBut it runs even smoother now.13:49
MailmanUbuntu is prettier, though.13:50
philinuxMailman: have a look in the start up items and remove bluetooth and ubuntuone etc etc13:50
philinuxquite a lot of stuff is started at boot thats not required13:50
philinuxaccessibility stuff too13:52
philinuxonboard and orca for instance13:52
MailmanI just checked System Settings > Autostart and there doesn't seem to b much of anything there.13:55
philinuxHang on13:55
philinuxhelp maybe arriving13:57
philinuxMailman: please restate your problem for BluesKaj - he uses kubuntu13:57
BluesKajphilinux, I have to leave for 20 mins or so , but I'll be back13:57
MailmanI updated my graphics drivers yesterday to fix a screen brightness problem, but now my laptop won't wake from sleep. I'm on an Acer Aspire One running Kubuntu.13:57
philinuxok BluesKaj13:58
MailmanI also have to leave for a bit. My breakfast has been water and troubleshooting.13:58
BluesKajphilinux, Mailman was already asking in #kubuntu , but I don't have an answer , sorry13:58
MailmanI also asked in #ubuntu, but to no avail.13:59
MailmanI changed the lid close action to turn the screen off instead of sleeping, so I should be okay for now.14:00
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