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jribsatwood: what kind of conf files?00:00
ActionParsnipsatwood: possibly, they are only files, so you can just rename the original back in.00:00
Netham45Also, once I switch to an X console, I can't switch to any text-based VTs. It's either solid black, or I experience a full system lock.00:00
brontosaurusrexstephanb: ok, i get it now00:00
satwoodjrib: ActionParsnip: conf files for exim4, dovecot, openvpn etc.  I didn't get "can just rename the original back in."00:00
birardawondering if anyone might be able to help with an iptables problem00:01
birardaI'm getting can't initialize iptables table `nat'00:01
birardasays table does not exist00:01
jribsatwood: it's more of a version issue; if the version of the software is the same (or you know the conf file format/settings have not changed), it should be fine00:01
ActionParsnipsatwood: well, if there is a conf file already there, rename it then  copy the Ubuntu one in00:01
birardalsmod doesn't show anything related to iptables00:01
brontosaurusrexstephanb: and your server is linux as well?00:01
satwoodgot it, thanks guys00:01
stephanbbrontosaurusrex: i think so, it's some generic NAS00:02
satwoodi assume ubuntu also has paths as /etc/exim4, /etc/dovecot, /etc/openvpn etc. ?00:02
brontosaurusrexstephanb: can you ssh to that thing?00:03
stephanbbrontosaurusrex:  nope :(00:03
conleyI upgraded to 12.10, and now I'm getting an error about dpkg returning an error code. I've tried dpkg --configure -a but it's still broken00:04
brontosaurusrexwell, then there must be a way to mount this samba share into the system somehow00:04
brontosaurusrexstephanb: like http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/mounting-a-samba-share-933322/00:05
Jordan_Uconley: Please pastebin the complete error message.00:05
stephanbbrontosaurusrex: i got it mounted, but audacious doesnt support adding folders from samba shares, this only works with normal files00:05
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brontosaurusrexhow did you mounted it? nautilus?00:06
stephanbbrontosaurusrex: fstab00:06
brontosaurusrexoh00:06
conleyhttp://pastebin.com/Uvi6Dku7 Jordan_U00:06
birardahttp://pastebin.com/HfRSg82g here's a paste of the iptables problem00:06
brontosaurusrexstephanb: perhaps run yourplayer from cli and then drop that share and see if any errors pop out00:07
stephanbbrontosaurusrex: would be worth a try00:07
brontosaurusrexcould be some sort of a permission problem00:08
stephanbbrontosaurusrex: nope00:08
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brontosaurusrexstephanb: but you can see this files normaly with some file manager? copy them localy and so on?00:09
stephanbbrontosaurusrex: yes, all that works fine, it just seems that audacious doesnt support adding directorys from samba shares00:09
ActionParsnipbrontosaurusrex: nautilus can mount samba shares00:10
brontosaurusrexActionParsnip: yes, but you probably cant use those urls right?00:10
stephanbi think i'll just go with MPD...00:10
ActionParsnipbrontosaurusrex: have you tried with nautilus though, or is this a CLI only system?00:11
brontosaurusrexstephanb: perhaps try "deadbeef" as plazer, very similar.00:11
brontosaurusrexActionParsnip: stephanb is asking, iam trying to help :)00:12
brontosaurusrexplayer*00:12
ActionParsnipbrontosaurusrex: ahhhhh i see00:12
ActionParsnipstephanb: you can use /run/user/USER$/gvfs/foldernamehere00:13
ActionParsnipstephanb: the mounts get mounted there as folders00:13
foxy999Can someone tell me how to fix my update manager, i think i need to update my repository00:14
stephanbActionParsnip: i just googled it, it is a specific problem with audacious, not with mounting the shares00:14
stephanbbrontosaurusrex: is there a recent ppa for deadbeef?00:15
brontosaurusrexstephanb: iam using deb-multimedia.org00:15
brontosaurusrexbut iam not on ubuntu at the moment00:15
stephanbbrontosaurusrex: okay00:16
Dianahi00:16
LucidGuyAnyone recommend a good iptables generator.  Something simple I can use to create iptables.  Happy to do it myself with just a text editor, but always concerned I've made a typo or something causing possible security issues.00:16
jjoson_hi there..00:17
DianaI just want to download ubuntu from your website00:17
jjoson_diana..sorry but i'm also new for this one00:17
DianaPlease let me know the procedue00:17
Dianak00:17
satwoodguys, i know there is a tool where a console can be observed by two people, while one types, after i ssh, can someone please tell me what it is ?00:17
jjoson_want to ask if ubuntu is not sending copy of OS anymore like before?00:18
jpdssatwood: byobu.00:18
jpdsjjoson_: No, that was stopped a while ago.00:19
stephanbbrontosaurusrex: deadbeef seems nice, but the gui is ugly ;)00:19
foxy999I get this error when I check for updates: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available00:19
satwoodjpds: that doesnt seem like it, i just read it quickly00:19
brontosaurusrexstephanb: does it work? evev if ugly00:19
brontosaurusrexeven*00:19
jjoson_oh thanks..00:20
stephanbbrontosaurusrex: yeah00:20
jpdssatwood: Someone runs it with 'byobu'.00:20
satwoodwhat i am looking for is i ssh into a server. another person is also able to "join": and see what commands i type, and the screen output00:20
conleyCan anyone paste me the ubuntu 12.10 /etc/apt/sources.list file?00:20
jpdssatwood: The next person does: "byobu attach".00:20
satwoodok00:20
jpdssatwood: Yes, that's exactly what I'm talking about.00:20
satwoodso i ssh into ubuntu and then what ?00:20
jjoson_jpds : so its all download now?00:20
jpdssatwood: 00:20:19 < jpds> satwood: Someone runs it with 'byobu'.00:21
jpdssatwood: 00:20:31 < jpds> satwood: The next person does: "byobu attach".00:21
jpdssatwood: ;-)00:21
satwoodjpds: so what do i do after ssh into ubuntu ?00:21
stephanbbrontosaurusrex: but i got a workaround with gvfs so that it works with audacious too00:21
jpdssatwood: Type: byoby00:21
brontosaurusrexstephanb: cool00:21
jpdsjjoson_: Yes.00:21
satwoodok00:21
satwoodjpds: then the other guy to connect and see, what does he do ?00:21
jjoson_ok..thanks..maybe i'l download it next time..thank you00:22
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jpdssatwood: Are you even reading, what I'm typing.00:22
jjoson_by the way how will i log out from here00:22
satwoodjpds: yes00:22
jpdssatwood: 00:21:09 < jpds> satwood: 00:20:31 < jpds> satwood: The next person does: "byobu attach".00:22
satwoodjpds: i saw i should i) ssh, ii) type byobu, iii) othe rperson types "byobu attach"00:22
satwoodjpds: how does the next person know where/how to attach, so before iii) he also does ssh into the same ubnutu ?00:23
satwoodjpds: and just types that ? is there a session number or tty number or something ? what if two others also want to do this separately on the same machine ?00:23
jpdssatwood: You both need to be on the same Ubuntu system that's running byobu.00:25
conleyanyone? I just need /etc/apt/sources.list00:25
satwoodjpds: i got that. but lets say A and B do this. Now C and D also want to do the same. How is that possible if they do byobu attch, they may get attached to A00:26
ActionParsnipconley: for which release?00:26
conleyActionParsnip: 12.1000:27
ActionParsnipconley: gimme a sec00:27
conleyActionParsnip: Thanks man :)00:27
birardaanybody know why my iptables wouldn't have the 'nat' table?00:28
birardahttp://pastebin.com/HfRSg82g00:28
jpdssatwood: They can create a new 'client'.00:28
ActionParsnipconley: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1319531/   I have the partner repo enabled in there00:28
conleyActionParsnip: alright, thanks a lot00:28
satwoodjpds: how does D know to connect to C, instead of A ?00:29
jpdssatwood: "byobu new-session"00:29
jpdssatwood: "byobu ls"00:30
satwoodjpds: wha tis the command C uses to connect to D instead of to A ?00:30
jpdssatwood: "byobu attach-session"00:30
satwoodjpds: is it byobu attach 2 ?00:30
satwoodjpds: ok, how does C connect to A vs. connect to D ?00:30
jpdssatwood: Probably, man page suggests "attach-session -t N"00:30
satwoodjpds: ok thanks00:31
jpdsbyobu++ # awesome program.00:31
jpdssatwood: Look at the tmux manpage.00:31
satwoodok, thanks00:32
chadamsjust installed ubuntu 12.10 last night via the wubi, would like to add the host drive to the devices list in the folder manager, anyone know how to do this?00:35
ActionParsnipchadams: run:    ln -s /host ~/Windows00:35
orionsbeltdoes anyone know why my computer wont accept two wireless connections at once?  ive got two dongles and one wont connect00:36
orionsbeltubuntu oneiric00:37
orionsbeltos00:37
ActionParsniporionsbelt: you may need to manually set one up using /etc/network/interfaces file   as far as I know, network manager will only manage one connection by one adapter00:37
wilee-nileechadams, It is actually already there, I forget where though, remember wubi is a file in windows, and set for a try out not longterm use.00:39
chadamsI want to put it here: http://imgur.com/Mce6900:41
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kaushalIs Airtel 4G LTE USB Modem/Stick support available in Ubuntu 11.10?00:42
chadamsit's already mounted to /host00:43
chadamsis it possible to mount it again to a folder that ubuntu will recognize as a device?00:43
chadamsor can you only mount a drive once?00:43
ActionParsnipchadams: yes, that's why the symlink makesit easily accessible :)00:44
ActionParsnipkaushal: run:  lsusb      use the 8 character hex ID to find guides00:45
kaushalActionParsnip: ok00:45
kaushalActionParsnip: Bus 002 Device 004: ID 19d2:0166 ONDA Communication S.p.A.00:46
chadamsoops, thought red meant private message00:46
kaushalActionParsnip: guides?00:46
ActionParsnipkaushal: ok, use that to find guides online00:46
chadamsapparent it just means my name was mentioned00:46
kaushalActionParsnip: any url?00:46
ActionParsnipkaushal: https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=19d2%3A0166%20ONDA   too hard?00:47
simplewActionParsnip: can you help creating a local repository?00:47
ActionParsnipsimplew: http://www.packtpub.com/article/create-local-ubuntu-repository-using-apt-mirror-apt-cacher00:48
birardahey, sorry, hate to keep bothering00:50
birardajust wondering if somebody know what might be up with this iptables problem00:51
birardasays 'nat' table doesn't exist00:51
birardahttp://pastebin.com/HfRSg82g00:51
simplewActionParsnip: hummm00:51
simplewActionParsnip: thanks00:51
vfwbirarda: iptables -L00:52
simplewActionParsnip: did you ever created a local mirror?00:53
birardavfw: that runs fine and shows me nothing00:54
birardawell no rules I mean00:54
simplewActionParsnip: the thing is, i have downloaded many packages, and i want them to be available locally if for example i need to do a clean isntall, so instead download them again, i could create a local repo to save bandwith00:54
vfwbirarda: Then there are none.00:54
vfwbirarda: Do you have a firewall script?00:55
birardano, it's ettercap trying to add rules that fires the error00:55
vfwbirarda: Or have you created any rules?00:55
ActionParsnipsimplew: you can use aptoncd for that00:55
vfwbirarda: What error?  (Show us)00:55
birardavfw: http://pastebin.com/HfRSg82g00:55
ActionParsnip!info aptoncd00:55
ubottuaptoncd (source: aptoncd): Installation disc creator for packages downloaded via APT. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.98+bzr117-1.2 (quantal), package size 216 kB, installed size 1535 kB00:55
ActionParsnipyay00:55
birardathe error message is the same as the one shown there00:56
birardahappens during the ettercap run (when it starts and when I stop it)00:56
kaushalActionParsnip: hi again00:59
nydelhello all00:59
kaushalMessageContent="55534243123456782400000080000685000000240000000000000000000000"  of usb-modeswitch-data for the MF820 product.00:59
kaushalwhere can i get usb-modeswitch-data?01:00
ActionParsnip!info usb-modeswitch-data01:01
ubottuusb-modeswitch-data (source: usb-modeswitch-data): mode switching data for usb-modeswitch. In component main, is extra. Version 20120531-1 (quantal), package size 25 kB, installed size 199 kB01:01
birardawhere should I look for the iptables_nat module?01:03
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vfwbirarda: apt-cache01:04
vfwbirarda: sudo apt-get install iptables01:05
birardait's installed01:05
vfwShould just be there.01:08
vfwbirarda: How did you install iptables?01:08
vfwbirarda: What version?01:08
birardadidn't. said it was already installed when I ran sudo apt-get install iptables01:08
birardaiptables v1.4.1201:09
vfwhummmm... I dono01:09
birardaalso tried reinstalling01:09
vfwbirarda: That usually doesn't do anything.01:10
birardafigured as much01:10
birardatried modprobe iptable_nat01:10
birardanot found01:10
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wilee-nileebirarda, This thread at the ubuntu forums is generally recommended for info in this area if needed. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51081201:12
qwdJordan_U: Hey, sorry I did some other stuff while waiting for mplayer to install and completely forgot about it. Here's the output when trying to play the video file. http://pastebin.com/M6tF1qg301:13
wilee-nileebirarda, And this is a link within that thread. http://bodhizazen.net/Tutorials/iptables/01:13
vfwbirarda: What exactly are you trying to do?01:15
birardafigure out why the table doesn't exist and create it so that ettercap works01:16
birardaor not create it I mean but figure out why it's not there01:17
vfwbirarda: lsmod|grep ipt01:19
birardanada01:19
wilee-nileebirarda,  ettercap would not be covered on this channel it is a sniffer.01:19
birardaissue isn't related to etter cap really01:19
birardaiptables -t nat -L also throws the error01:19
vfwbirarda: grep ipt /etc/modprobe.d/*01:23
birardanada01:23
kaushalwhat does usb-modeswitch-data package do?01:24
vfwbirarda: And  lsmod |grep ipt  also returns nothing?01:24
kaushalbasically i need to understand about usb-modeswitch-data and usb-modeswitch01:24
birardayep, same01:25
vfwbirarda: lsb_release -a01:25
KBentley57it looks like it is a small data partition that is used to hold drivers01:25
birardaNo LSB modules are available.01:25
birardaDistributor ID:Ubuntu01:25
birardaDescription:Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS01:25
birardaRelease:12.0401:25
birardaCodename:precise01:25
FloodBot1birarda: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.01:25
KBentley57http://packages.debian.org/sid/usb-modeswitch-data01:25
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vfwbirarda: Somehting wrong with your system.  Try rebooting, and / or  sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade01:26
vfwbirarda: That's all I have for you.01:27
angela-hi i have instaled wuby 10.12 in windows what is the afantichs of the disafvantichs of it ?01:27
birardarebooted already and I'm fully up to date01:28
birardadarn01:28
john_doe_jrhow do I add the following repo: http://origin-download.mono-project.com/archive/2.6.7/download/openSUSE_11.3/01:28
vfwbirarda: This is a normal install, (not wubi), right?01:28
birardait's a chromebox01:29
KBentley57angela-, when you use wubi, you aren't getting the benefits of the native ext4 file system for one01:29
birardaso technically it's chrubuntu01:29
vfwbirarda: What is a chromebox?01:29
birardahttp://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/devices/chromebox.html01:29
RiXtErjohn_doe_jr, since its a rpm based repo I am not sure you can...01:30
angela-gthat`s right KBentley57  and i am v=capeble to uninstal it in windows01:30
KBentley57angela-, so you have installed it, and are trying to remove it?01:30
RiXtErbirarda, I am running 12.10 64bit on my chromebook :) runs pretty smooth also... I get about 8-9 hours battery life on it :)01:30
meomichi, i just want to ask if anyone got working some android device with adb under ubuntu 12.10?  my was working nicely with 12.04 but then ive upgraded and it stopped  syslog shows something but not sure exactly what (how to fix)01:31
angela-no KBentley5701:31
vfw birarda  I don't know about chromebox, but must be some sort ofa stripped down version of Ubuntu.  Right?01:31
angela-i try to inastall my network printer that dont will work01:32
vfwbirarda: Chromebook?01:32
RiXtErmeomic, I'd bet there are some udev rules you need to fix, but I haven't had time to play with it myself yet, surely someone has fixed it up and posted it somewhere (google it)01:32
KBentley57angela-, which is your native language?  I'm afraid I'm having a hard time comprehending your problem.01:33
RiXtErvfw, no its full blown, and chromebox is hooked to a TV01:33
RiXtErvfw, much like a media device.01:33
angela-duchs KBentley5701:33
meomicRiXtEr: udev rules ive handled - it was working in 12.04 - udev rules are same - i can see the device but it is kicked out after few secs by system and again auto reconnected (loop)01:33
angela-but thar is bobody arout nou this time off night01:34
vfwRiXtEr: Tnx info.  First I heard of chromebox.  Learning.....01:34
jgautier I have mythbuntu up and running watching live TV with sound great through my GT 430 sound card.  However when I try to get zsnes or snes9x to play the video works fine but there no audio...any ideas?01:34
KBentley57angela-, I understand.  Perhaps it would be best to type in duchs and let me use google translator01:34
RiXtErvfw, it was released back in July if I remember right, so I am betting something should be running stable on it.01:34
angela-ok01:35
KBentley57angela-, no offense :)01:35
birardalike a chrome book, but a desktop box01:37
birardavfw: looks like a mac mini01:37
ULO-PlioIs there a way to install Ubuntu alongside Windows 7 (on the same drive), but without a shared file system?01:38
RiXtErULO-Plio, yes01:38
ULO-PlioRiXtEr, how? I don't want to reformat my drive or anything :S01:38
wilee-nileeULO-Plio, What is your definition of shared file system?01:38
KBentley57ULO-Plio, it's very easy to do.  download the iso, burn it to a cd, pop it in and go01:38
KBentley57ULO-Plio, it will ask you to resize your windows partition to make room for the ubuntu installation01:39
ULO-Pliowilee-nilee, I can actually access my C drive through Ubuntu (which I don't want to be able to do)01:39
RiXtErULO-Plio, you just need to re-partition your drive so ubuntu has some native linux filesystem to run on01:39
RiXtErULO-Plio, which ubuntu will take care of for you during install.01:39
angela-no prob KBentley5701:39
wilee-nileeULO-Plio, I thought there was more to this so you want the windows partition hidden?01:40
KBentley57ULO-Plio, then remove the ntfs module, or unmount the windows partition01:40
RiXtErULO-Plio, but if  you have sensative data on your drive please be sure to back it up01:40
ULO-PlioKBentley57, yeah I can unmount it, but is there a way so that I have absolutely no access to it through Ubuntu? I want to keep the two completely separate.01:41
KBentley57ULO-Plio, do you only not want access to the windows partition, or do you want to keep it from mounting ANY ntfs filesystem?01:41
ULO-PlioKBentley57, just the Windows partition01:42
KBentley57have you ever opened fstab?01:43
vfwbirarda: Interesting.... Learning....01:43
KBentley57ULO-Plio, do you care to post some output into pastebin if I give you instructions?01:43
ULO-PlioI haven't installed Ubuntu yet. I've had this "problem" with 12.04, so I simply deleted the whole Ubuntu partition and went straight with Windows 701:44
KBentley57Oh, that's too bad, it simply requires editing a single text file.01:44
ULO-PlioAhhh :(01:44
KBentley57ULO-Plio, I've been there, don't sweat it :).01:45
wilee-nileeULO-Plio, You can have a password needed to open any partition that may be your best bet. http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=9207234&postcount=401:45
KBentley57It would be simpler for him to just comment out the line in fstab if it is there after the installation01:45
ULO-PlioThanks everyone :) I may just buy a cheap HDD and install Ubuntu on there01:46
ULO-Pliomaybe that way, I won't have this problem01:46
KBentley57ULO-Plio, it doesn't require that much work to keep them separate.  I wouldn't buy another hard drive for only that purpose, unless you just want to of course01:47
ULO-PlioI guess it's safer to just do that01:47
ULO-Pliothan always deleting the Ubuntu partition and reinstalling it (or other distros) on the same drive01:47
wilee-nileeULO-Plio, A second HD will leave you with the same setup unless you unplug the one with windows.01:48
^MikeWhy is /var/run a symlink to /run? I don't recall there being a run directory in the filesystem root O_o01:48
ULO-Pliowilee-nilee, for real?  Gaaahhh01:48
KBentley57wilee-nilee, is correct.  There is not practical difference between having two hard drives with a single partiton each, vs two partitions on a single drive01:48
KBentley57it's all about the partitions as opposed to the number of drives in the system01:49
wilee-nileeULO-Plio, As it is windows is just a file in the left panel in nautilus, unless we are talking about a wubi install. Was you last 12.04 installed from windows?01:49
KBentley57If it helps, I would stop thinking of the drives as being anything more than a container that partitions reside in01:49
ULO-Pliowilee-nilee, nah, I did it through a live USB.01:50
angela-btw KBentley57  wubi is for my a tryout01:51
ULO-PlioKBentley57, yeah I know. I just want Ubuntu to not recognize the WIndows partition, because the drive is always mounted when I start Ubuntu. Ideally, I want Ubuntu to work with only its own partition01:51
wilee-nileeULO-Plio, Windows would not be mounted unless fstab had a mount for it.01:52
KBentley57that is what I was saying, all he needs to do is remove the fstab entry01:52
ULO-PlioHmm01:52
KBentley57angela-, I understand.  Which part of the wubi is giving you troubles01:52
ULO-PlioOkay, I'll give it a whirl. What should I do with fstab?01:53
ULO-Plio:)01:53
KBentley57ULO-Plio, fstab is a file that tells ubuntu to mount certain partitions on bootup01:53
KBentley57ULO-Plio, if there is an entry for the partition that windows resides on, ubuntu will mount it automatically01:53
angela-is no prob KBentley57  i am able to print scan  in windows so its nop prob01:53
ULO-PlioKBently57, ohhhhh.01:54
KBentley57ULO-Plio, you would have to remove, or comment out this entry.  t's not hard01:54
KBentley57ULO-Plio, but if you remove the wrong thing it can have disasterous results :)01:54
ULO-PlioO__O01:54
ULO-Plio:S01:54
KBentley57ULO-Plio, why don't you reinstall it and come back, and we'll help you through it.  worst that can happen is you botch a clean ubuntu install with nothing in it.  There is no danger to the windows partition01:55
ULO-PlioKBentley57, Alrighty, thanks for the help :)01:56
Toph2is there a 'Transmission BitTorrent Client' channel around, or can i pose a question here01:56
Toph2?01:56
KBentley57Toph2, go for it01:57
Toph2ok01:57
Toph2I want to store my downloads on a differnt drive/partition. I can't find a setting in Transmission to do this01:58
KBentley57Toph2, would you like a suggestion?01:58
Toph2KBentley57,,, indeed01:59
angela-KBentley57,  if i disydet to install ubuntu 10.12 next to windows one dvd ore cd than i`m even to eble to do finks that dont work in ubuntu to do it in windows'01:59
somsipToph2: Edit, Preferences, Downloading tab02:00
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KBentley57Toph2, use a different torrent client.  Transmission is limited in what it can, and cannot do.  qbittorent and deluge are much more functional.  However, here is a post that looks like it addresses your question:02:01
lupoI have a postgresql installed but don't know which, so I can't remove it with apt-get, how can I find all the packages related to postgre installed in my system?02:01
KBentley57Toph2, https://forum.transmissionbt.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=907302:01
Toph2somsip,,, I find none of that on my client02:01
Toph2KBentley57,,, thanks02:01
somsipToph2: You're using the GUI or the server? You have a toolbar?02:01
overdubhave a broken package with apt-get: 1 not fully installed or removed. Errors were encountered while processing: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)02:01
Toph2somsip,,, just the GUI02:02
Toph2no toolbar02:02
overdubthe package is gpsmanshp02:02
KBentley57overclucker, have you tried sudo apt-get install -f?02:02
overdubcan't seem to fix it, install it properly, or uninstall it02:02
overdubanyone know how to fix this?02:02
somsipToph2: this is transmission-gtk?02:03
overdubKBentley57, i was reluctant to use -f, maybe it might work02:03
overdubdon't want to bork this install and the apt-get man page says this is to be used with extreme caution02:04
KBentley57overdub, the -f stands for "fix broken packages"02:04
overdubthought there might be a safer way to fix it02:04
overdubah, well then, probably what I want, i'll go try it02:04
KBentley57overdub, ok, report back when you're finished02:05
overdubwill do02:05
overdubE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) -- didn't work02:06
Toph2somsip,,, i'm not sure,, it has no options other than speeds02:06
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KBentley57overdub, try to purge the package, then run -f, then install again02:07
overdubwhere to "purge" the package?02:07
KBentley57overdub, sudo apt-get purge gpsmanshp02:07
angela-one questhen left vpn is that for foon configurarion?02:07
KBentley57it basically removes the package and any config files that still exist02:07
yeehiHello! I have downloaded the beautiful ubuntu fonts here: http://font.ubuntu.com/ How do I now install them? I think there is more to it than just copying them into a folder. (Also, which folder?!)02:08
overdubKBentley57, subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 12702:08
overdubdidn't work02:08
somsipyeehi: copy to /usr/share/fonts02:08
KBentley57hmm, you could always install synaptic, it's a package manager that is good about fixing things like this.02:08
yeehithey downloaded as a zip file - do i have to unpack, somsip?02:09
somsipToph2: How do you access those. Do you go through a Preferences menu02:09
overdubi have it install and tried to use that to fix the issue02:09
somsipyeehi: yes02:09
KBentley57overdub, already?02:09
overdubmaybe I didn't poke around enough in synaptic02:09
overdubI tried that a while ago02:09
kaushalhi02:10
KBentley57there is a fix broken packages option in synaptic, i just used it myself today02:10
overdubI'll try that again and report back02:10
KBentley57overdub, it's under custom filters on the bottom left02:10
matswhat is the cat function?02:10
Toph2somsip,,, one options setting in the lower right corner and all it gives is transfer speed settings02:11
KBentley57cat is usually used to display text on the screen mats02:11
yeehithere are lots of folders inside /usr/share/fonts somsip - cmap, opentype, truetype, type1 x11 - which one?02:11
yeehisomsip?02:11
overdubKBentley57, okay, thanks back in a bit to report if it worked or not02:11
KBentley57overdub, then click on broken just under all02:11
KBentley57ok,02:11
somsipyeehi: the one that matches the font you download - usually ttf (true type) or otf (open type)02:11
ruben231hi guys any have successfully install twinkle softphone with ubuntu 12.10----> any idea guys..?02:12
ruben231or what you can suggest02:12
somsipToph2: is there any menu at all?02:12
Toph2somsip,,, there is a properties option on the one menu bar it has on top but that is just for a selected torrent02:13
KBentley57ruben231, are you trying to install it, or just asking our opinion of it?02:13
matswhen i do "sudo cat misc/rc.local > /etc/rc.local" i get "-bash: /etc/rc.local: permission denied??? please help02:13
somsipmats: use tee02:13
ruben231KBentley57: im trying to install twinkle with this- apt-get install twinkle but it wont -unable to locate twinkle02:13
matsuse tee? how ?02:14
Toph2somsip,,, just a to menu bar with 'open, run arrow, pause, -, and properties for the selected torrent'02:14
KBentley57ruben231, that is because it's probably not in the repositorys, I just checked02:14
overdubKBentley57, having trouble getting synaptic to start with root privileges02:14
KBentley57overdub, did you run "sudo synaptic" from the terminal?02:14
ruben231KBentley57:how do i add it up, can you help02:14
overdubyup, it says Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :002:15
KBentley57ruben231, you will have to manually install it, here is their download page:  http://www.twinklephone.com/02:15
overdubi'm using KDE02:15
KBentley57overdub, Oh, well, there is your problem... ;)02:15
matswhen i do "sudo cat misc/rc.local > /etc/rc.local" i get "-bash: /etc/rc.local: permission denied"??? please help02:15
somsipmats: like this http://stackoverflow.com/questions/82256/how-do-i-use-sudo-to-redirect-output-to-a-location-i-dont-have-permission-to-wr (under 'use sudo tee')02:15
wilee-nilee!twinkle02:15
ruben231 KBentley57: how to manually install..? just download then install..? tahts all..?02:15
overdubso i did alt-F2 and it only starts in non root privilege02:15
matssomsip: TY02:15
overdubKB - LOL02:15
wilee-nileeoverdub, You in a admin account?02:16
KBentley57overdub, so running it from the terminal, with sudo, doesn't give you sudo priv?02:16
ActionParsnipcan anyone please explain web apps please. I have some installed but they appear to do nothing02:16
somsipToph2: sorry, but you seem to be using a front end that is very different from mone. I'm not sure why02:16
ruben231wilee-nilee: you have any idea..?02:16
overdubwilee-nilee, not a good plan to run a whole desktop with root privileges02:16
wilee-nileeruben231, Not really.02:17
overdubKBentley57, it can't open the display02:17
overdubi thought I could get root after opening synaptic02:17
wilee-nileeoverdub, Admin in ubuntu is sudo access you misunderstand02:17
ruben231 KBentley57: how to install manually..?02:17
KBentley57ruben, are you at the download page?02:17
bazhangsflphone-gnome  <---- use this instead ruben231 twinkle is not there in Quantal 12.1002:17
dormitoIm running Ubuntu 12.10. I set a custom keyboard shurtcut Super+E to launch nautilus (because Im so used to that short cut in windows) when I set the shortcut it worked, but after rebooting it no longer launches nautils. I went back into the shortcut settings and tickered around, and it started working again evetually (I just deleted the entery and recreated the exact same... and maybe re assined it to the same keystroke, so no net change) and02:17
dormitoit eventually started working. however I have rebooted again, and it does not launch nautilus again a perminent solution would be nice.02:17
ruben231bazhang: is install default already..? is it SIP..?02:18
KBentley57overdub, do you havg muon ? as the pacage manager?02:18
overdubeven doing alt-F2 and then typing sudo synaptic does not work02:18
bazhangruben231, it's a softphone. install it02:18
overdubKBentley57, never heard of that, is it a GUI or command line?02:18
bazhangKBentley57, muon is for Kubuntu02:19
wilee-nileeoverdub, Are you in the account that was made when you installed?02:19
ActionParsnipwell, you can use kde apps in gnome if you want :)02:19
KBentley57is KDE + Ubuntu = kubuntu?02:19
ruben231bazhang: is it on the repo i just apt-get istall it..?02:19
KBentley57ruben, yes02:19
bazhangruben231, yes02:19
overdubwilee-nilee, yes, and last time I tried to open synaptic it asked for the password and opened with root02:20
Toph2somsip,,, strange   It is the only one that comes up in Ubuntu Softwear Centre02:20
KBentley57overdub, I'm perplexed.  sudo should be able to do anything..lol02:20
bazhangwilee-nilee, gksudo synaptic you mean02:20
overdubKBentley57, except apparently open a GUI app02:20
somsipToph2: maybe, but I don't use that02:20
overdubKBentley57, i'm installing muon02:20
matssomsip: sudo tee didnt work02:21
wilee-nileebazhang, hehe I didn't give any command. ;)02:21
matswhen i do "sudo cat misc/rc.local > /etc/rc.local" i get "-bash: /etc/rc.local: permission denied"??? please help02:21
KBentley57overdub, can you post the output if "id"02:21
overcluckeroverdub: are you trying to run synaptic from a tty?02:21
overduboverclucker, yeah02:21
KBentley57ahh, nice call02:21
KBentley57you can't run synaptic - the gui - unless X is running.02:22
overcluckeroverdub: you could try with xinit, like xinit /usr/sbin/synaptic -- :002:22
somsipmats: so could you  sudo cp misc/rc.local /etc/rc.local?02:22
overdubX is running, but I was trying to open synaptic from Konsole02:22
overdubsome misunderstanding here02:22
overdubi'm trying02:22
overcluckeroverdub: but if you're already running an x session try :102:22
KBentley57overdub, sorry, I think I misunderstood.  I thought you were saying that you were running it from a session where X wasn't started02:23
overcluckeroverdub: ah, hmm.02:23
matssomsip: i love you thanks!02:24
KBentley57overdub, type "id" into console, and post the output here02:24
somsipmats: too effusive, but your welcome02:24
overdubKBentley57, uid=0(root) gid=0(root) groups=0(root)02:25
overdubi'm root in Konsole02:25
overdubso I shouldn't need the sudo prefix02:25
KBentley57have you tried not being root, but changing to your regular user, and trying to use sudo instead?02:25
biellai've just install quantal and sound is not working when youtube videos play in firefox, and chromium says that flash is disabled because it is out of date... does anyone know how I can fix that?02:26
overdubKBentley57, not yet, i'm on that now . . .02:26
KBentley57biella, have you tried updating your system yet?02:26
biellaKBentley57, yeah, it says I have no updates right now02:26
overcluckeroverdub: yeah, try that. drop to a regular user and run gksu synaptic02:26
overdubIt worked! I'm in synaptic with root privilege02:26
KBentley57:)02:27
overdubstrange that, but I'm happy it works02:27
KBentley57overdub, now we can try to solve the real problem..lo02:27
overdubyeah, let me do the fix broken package thing now, back in a sec02:27
KBentley57biella, which version of chrome is listed as installed?02:27
biellaKBentley57: chromium-browser 22.0.1229.94~r161065-0ubuntu102:28
matshow do u restart from command line02:29
daxmats: sudo reboot02:29
somsipmats: sudo reboot02:29
tacomasterI just finished a book on python and was going to start trying to make gui app's but it seems that gui gtk3 is not supported for pygtk and a few other what is a good gui language for python3 that isnt qt?02:30
daxtacomaster: http://python-gtk-3-tutorial.readthedocs.org/en/latest/02:30
overdubKBentley57, fix broken packages did nothing, so I tried to "mark for complete removal" and still get error02:31
somsiptacomaster: http://wiki.python.org/moin/GuiProgramming has lots of links that might help02:31
tacomasterdax, somsip, ty so much!!!02:31
KBentley57overdub, so you marked it for complete removal and it did nothing?02:31
overdubit returned error: E: gpsmanshp: subprocess installed pre-removal script returned error exit status 102:32
KBentley57well,, there is another way02:32
overdubdo tell02:32
KBentley57overdub, it basically involves a seek and destroy approach, manually removing each related file.02:33
KBentley57overdub, first update your database with sudo updatedb02:33
daxoverdub: install the package tcl8.4 and try again. There's a bug in the package gpsmanshp02:33
daxoverdub: doing this before KBentley57's idea is probably best, since it's less destructive02:33
biellaKBentley57, i moved from an amd64 machine to i386, so I needed to purge my .mozilla/plugins directory and now it works02:34
KBentley57dax, i just seen this02:34
overdubdax, thanks for the safer suggestion. i suspected a bug in the package02:34
KBentley57biella, nice find!  I'm glad you found it02:34
daxoverdub: you're welcome. let me know whether it works; if not, we can continue with KBentley57's idea :)02:35
biellaKBentley57: thought you might want to know for future people!02:35
KBentley57biella, I do, and I will keep it in mind02:35
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k4m3h4t3somebody help02:36
k4m3h4t3i have problem like this http://pastebin.com/1D4PmE0E02:37
bazhangk4m3h4t3, whats the problem02:38
KBentley57k4m3h4t3, did you try to add a repository?02:38
dax!gpgerr | k4m3h4t302:38
ubottuk4m3h4t3: Getting GPG errors after adding custom repositories? Find the GPG keyword for the repository (it's 437D05B5 for the standard ones) and run « sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com <key> »02:38
k4m3h4t3ubottu : where i get the key02:39
ubottuk4m3h4t3: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)02:39
daxk4m3h4t3: it's D53AE39309257C1B02:39
k4m3h4t3dax : where i get the key02:40
daxk4m3h4t3: so you'd do sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com D53AE39309257C1B02:40
daxwhich will download that key and give it to apt-get, so future package list updates will work02:40
daxs/apt-get/APT/02:40
overdubdax KBentley57 : it's fixed! the installing tcl8.4 has fixed the issue02:40
k4m3h4t3dax : mean, in terminal i must type like this  >>> sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com D53AE39309257C1B02:41
daxoverdub: excellent :)02:41
daxk4m3h4t3: yes02:41
k4m3h4t3i will try02:41
KBentley57overdub, dax, nice work!02:41
overdubthanks guys, I"m a happy camper :)02:41
KBentley57I would have gotten all of it, along with a little bit of /, and possibly /usr ;)02:41
chadamsfirst time rebooting ubuntu, right after I installed ATI drivers -- I get a pink screen, doesn't boot past that02:41
biellalibreoffice auto spell checking isn't working, do i need a special package?02:42
k4m3h4t3dax : i was type. and then what must i do? sudo apt-get update?02:42
daxk4m3h4t3: sudo apt-get update02:42
KBentley57chadams, did you install them from ubuntu, or from the support.amd.com website02:42
daxk4m3h4t3: it should run without giving you the error this time02:42
KBentley57biella, I believe you do.02:42
chadamsKBentley57: from the ubuntu software center02:42
daxbiella: for English, or another language?02:42
k4m3h4t3i will try02:42
bielladax: english02:43
chadams12.1002:43
KBentley57biella, is this similar to what you are talking about?02:43
KBentley57biella, http://askubuntu.com/questions/203727/libreoffice-spell-checker-doesnt-work02:43
chadamsMy card is a Radeon HD 667002:43
KBentley57chadams, it gets to the purple screen, and does nothing else, or is it really "pink"?02:43
TheJellyHello02:44
chadamspurple, sorry02:44
vfwchadams: Ctrl-Alt-F6 ; mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf-bak02:44
KBentley57he probably cant get there yet02:44
R3d-S0u|problem with xorg uh?02:44
R3d-S0u|always the same..02:44
R3d-S0u|:)02:44
KBentley57chadams, can you press shift while the pc is booting, and get the grub boot loader, and use the recovery mode?02:44
TheJellyHow do I convert ima/img files to iso, or at least use them in virtual box (installing windows 95)?02:45
k4m3h4t3dax : thanks. problem resolve02:45
chadamsI'll try02:45
daxk4m3h4t3: you're welcome :)02:45
chadamslucky I've got a laptop too02:45
KBentley57chadams, after that, we'll boot normally and get to a tty login02:45
chadamsno problems with ubuntu on this, besides been a little slow02:45
biellaKBentley57: that was it! I had chosen English (Canada) but there is no dictionary for that, it seems02:45
k4m3h4t3dax : but next time it's gone be ok?02:46
daxTheJelly: you can convert them to a .vdi (Virtualbox Disk Image) with VBoxManage convertdd file.img file.vdi, per http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/convert-usb-boot-image-img-to-virtual.html02:46
chadamsok, so advanced options for ubuntu?02:46
KBentley57biella, cool!  which one worked?02:46
KBentley57chadams, yes02:46
chadamsrecovery mode?02:46
KBentley57chadams, boot normally02:46
KBentley57chadams, all it does is prevent the driver from loading this way, you will log into a black terminal like screen02:47
chadamsseeing text on the screen now02:47
KBentley57chadams, that is normal02:47
chadamsall because I redeemed braid for ubuntu on my humble bundle02:47
chadamsgraphics were slow and somehow clipped, so I tried installing ATI drivers02:47
KBentley57chadams, how long did you wait for the purple screen to go away?02:47
chadams5-10 minutes02:48
daxk4m3h4t3: Should be, yes. The error was because that key was missing, and it's now there, so everything should be fine from now on.02:48
KBentley57chadams, oh, ok.  Are you at the login prompt yet?02:48
chadamsit's still on 'Loading initial ramdisk ...', is this normal?02:48
KBentley57chadams, yeah, just give it a sec.02:49
sabonishi all02:49
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KBentley57chadams, if it takes more than a minute we'll try something else02:49
matshow can i find out system information via terminal?02:49
daxmats: any particular information, or just general info?02:50
KBentley57mats: run sudo lshw for hardware info02:50
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matscpu uasage02:50
somsipmats: top02:50
alien2050on a system with  multi-monitor, is there a way to open a video tutorial in youtube, in fullscreen, on the left, and work on a document on the right ? Whenever I click, the window unmaximizes..... never found a way to do it.... ne1?02:50
daxmats: top will show that. There's an alternative program named "htop" that's similar and may be easier to use.02:50
chadamsstill on the ramdisk part02:50
somsipdax mats: tis truth you speak02:50
KBentley57chadams, lets try something else, that clearly isn't doing anything.  reboot and go back to grub, and advanced options02:51
vfwKBentley57: He can probably just boot normally and switch to tty602:51
KBentley57vfw, if fglrx hangs it wont let you into a tty, or at least it hasn't ever for me02:52
chadamscontrol alt delete didn't work to reboot this time02:52
KBentley57hard reboot if necessary02:52
chadamshad to press the power button and wait02:52
matsthanks guys02:52
vfwKBentley57: Ok.02:52
chadamsrecovery mode is working02:53
alien2050cool i found it nevermind02:53
chadamsnow I'm at the Recovery Menu02:53
chadamsfailsafeX?02:53
KBentley57chadams, not yet02:54
KBentley57chadams, well, yes, we can do that first.  go ahead and try it02:54
chadamsit's doing fsck02:55
KBentley57chadams, ok, it'll be over in a moment02:55
delacupgrading to 12.10 (from 12.04). Got "Could not install 'grub-pc'". Should I do something about it before continuing?02:56
chadamsI hear that using the windows installer like I did, makes the ubuntu vfs vonerable to improper restarts, is this the case?02:56
KBentley57chadams, I'm not really certain.  I've never used the windows installer.02:57
wilee-nileechadams, Basically it is subject to problems with a hard shutdown, it is just a file in windows.02:57
KBentley57delac, you can try to reconfigure grub02:57
chadamswilee-nilee, I see02:58
delacKBentley57: in the middle of installation?02:58
KBentley57delac, oh, it's still upgrading?02:58
delacKBentley57: yes02:58
chadamsit's still stuck at /dev/loop0: clean02:59
wilee-nileechadams, Here is what the designer of wubi says if its of any help.  http://howsoftwareisbuilt.com/2009/03/12/interview-with-agostino-russo-wubi-ubuntu/02:59
delacKBentley57: or rather, there is the error dialog open02:59
mianosdoes anyone know how to stop chromium preloading under precise?02:59
KBentley57delac, so it is stuck on that part?02:59
wilee-nileemianos, The browser?02:59
mianosif it is preloaded a new instance connects to the eixsting instance and silently ignors all command line arguments03:00
mianosyes03:00
delacKBentley57: not stuck. I just didnt continue. every forum post I find tells me that I'm going to have unbootable system...03:00
mianosit's obviously not in auto starts03:00
KBentley57delac, you can always let it go, then manually install grub-pc if you must03:00
wilee-nileemianos, Did you look in startup applications?03:00
KBentley57delac, when it gets to the end03:00
chadamsKBentley57, this appears to be frozen03:00
delacKBentley57: unfortunately according to those post reinstalling grub wont work...03:01
mianoswilee-nilee yep not there, it's started by the system and backgrounded as of a few weeks ago03:01
mianosrob       1421     1  1 13:54 ?        00:00:05   /usr/lib/chromium-browser/chromium-browser03:01
mianosrob       1437  1421  0 13:54 ?        00:00:00     /usr/lib/chromium-browser/chromium-browser03:01
mianosrob       1729  1421  0 13:55 ?        00:00:00     /usr/lib/chromium-browser/chromium-browser --type=gpu-process --channel=1421.2.81192528503:01
FloodBot1mianos: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.03:01
KBentley57chadams, so it will not let you into the grub menu?03:01
mianossorry mr bot :)03:01
vfwdelac: If it's still doing file system check, be patient.03:01
Mark__Trying to get wifi working on 12.10 on my mbp retina anyone have any idea what driver I need?03:01
mianosthere are a few recent questions posted03:01
mianosnone answered03:01
KBentley57delac, have you updated everything before trying the dist-upgrade?03:01
wilee-nileemianos, Not sure really,  but chromium is not getting updates as of now I believe.03:02
KBentley57Mark__, what is the output of lspci?03:02
R3d-S0u|ullallà03:02
delacKBentley57: yeah, I did03:02
chadamslast thing it shows is "/dev/loop0: clean, x/y files. z/w blocks03:02
vfwmianos: What is YOUR question?03:02
KBentley57delac, can you try to pre-install the grub-pc package, then run the upgrade?03:03
chadamsafter going to failsafeX from the recovery menu03:03
mianosvfw, chrome is started in the background when I log into xcfe03:03
mianosit's not in .config/autostart03:03
Mark__Broadcom BCM 433103:03
mianosit is starting a chain of chrome instances for the renderrer and zygot etc etc03:03
delacKBentley57: I'm still in the middle of the upgrade, so I'm not sure if something like that would even work. oh well, I'm going to let it go and try to fix it afterwards :)03:04
wilee-nileedelac, This a other then msdos partitioning setup?03:04
mianoswhen I run a new instance from xterm "Created new window in existing browser session."03:04
chadamsso I'm guessing i should reboot again and try something else03:04
KBentley57Mark__, have you tried running "ubuntu-drivers list" and see if anything pops up03:04
mianosthen it silently ignors my command line argument03:04
KBentley57delac, yeah, let it go.  when it's done, perhaps we can check the logs to see what is good03:05
mianoshttp://askubuntu.com/questions/125357/chrome-puts-itself-on-startup-applications03:05
delacwilee-nilee: msdos partitioning? no, there is only ubuntu in this machine with default partitioning03:05
mianoshttp://askubuntu.com/questions/158216/how-to-make-google-chrome-not-start-as-service03:05
vfwmianos: The default bahaviour for xfce is to reload last session.  If you reboot telling it to reload last session after closing everything, and then reboot again telling it to save last session, and then reboot again telling it not to save last session, you'll be good to go, (from then on, it will load an empty session).03:05
wilee-nileedelac, No gpt uefi are you sure?03:05
bazhangmianos, dont repeat every five seconds03:05
Mark__The would be the issue KBentley57 there's no drivers03:05
Mark__How do I add it?03:06
chadamsKBentley57: I rebooted again and I'm back at the Recovery Menu. What should I try this time?03:06
wilee-nilee!broadcom | Mark__03:06
ubottuMark__: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx03:06
KBentley57chadams, did we try the failsafe x?03:06
chadamsyeah, it hung03:06
chadamsI had to reboot03:06
KBentley57chadams, ok, drop to root terminal03:07
mianosin sessions and startup there is a button "save session on logout", not clicked03:07
chadamsin03:07
mianosthe second item I pasted is not answered03:07
bazhang!enter | mianos03:07
ubottumianos: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!03:07
KBentley57chadams, we'll try to remove the amd drivers so that you can get back to a normal desktop, does that sound like what you are wanting to do?  we can then try to reinstall them03:07
delacwilee-nilee: unless ubuntu sets that up by itself, then no03:07
chadamsKBentley57: yeah, that sounds good03:08
KBentley57chadams, we will purge the amd drivers by running "sudo apt-get purge fglrx fglrx-dev fglrx-amdcccle"03:08
KBentley57without quotes of course03:08
chadamsunable to write to /var/cache/apt03:09
KBentley57chadams, was there any other output?03:09
chadamsW: Not using locking for read only lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock03:10
chadamsthen the /var/cache/apt error03:10
chadamsthen E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.03:10
KBentley57chadams, when you run "ls", do you see a bunch of directories?  I'm trying to see if the root folder is mounted03:11
chadamsif I do ls by itself I get nothing03:11
chadamsls / shows everything though03:11
mianosok, let me change my question so something that is suitable for a reply, chromium is not in any of my .config autostart files, my session is not marked to be saved on logout, when I start chrome, so I can use the remote debugging port I need to pass it a new command line, because something new is pre starting chromium when I start it it will attach to the existing session. I cant find what is loading it as it is forked and unattached, giviin03:12
mianosg it a parent Id of 1. This behaviour seems to be new. Has anyone heard of this?03:12
KBentley57chadams, can you change to your normal user, with su "username"?03:12
chadamsKBentley57: I get the same errors logged in as my self running the apt-get purge command03:13
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KBentley57can you cd to /usr/share/ati?03:13
chadamsI'm getting errors about a read only file system when I hit tab to autocomplete while typing in the cd command03:14
KBentley57chadams, ok, we need to mount the root filesystem03:14
KBentley57chadams, type exit and you should return to the options meny03:15
KBentley57menu03:15
chadamsI was able to cd to the folder without using autocomplete though03:15
KBentley57chadams, yeah, but we won't be able to remove the packages unless we have write access03:15
chadamsback in the Recovery menu now03:16
KBentley57chadams, is there an option to mount filesystems ?03:16
chadamsno03:16
seeqwelllol @ everyone and their 12.1003:16
KBentley57chadams, ok, go back to root terminal, and run mount -a03:16
chadamsdone03:16
KBentley57chadams, now see if you can run the sudo apt-get purge command03:17
chadamssame errors03:17
KBentley57can you cd to any dir with the tab auto completing?03:18
chadamsyeah03:18
KBentley57what error is it again?03:18
chadamsW: Not using locking for read only lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock03:19
chadamsE: Unable to write to /var/cache/apt03:19
chadamsE: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.03:19
Deihmosubuntu seem to suck on my HP laptop. Fan is crazy and sound does not work properly03:20
KBentley57can you do a sudo apt-get -f03:20
chadamsdid that03:21
chadamsapt 0.9.7.5ubuntu503:21
KBentley57chadams, now, how about apt-get update and apt-get upgrade, just to see if they throw any errors03:21
mike44I have a supported printer by gutenprint but i cant figure out how to install it correctly, does anyone have an idea?03:22
chadamssudo apt-get upgrade produces the same errors as apt-get purge03:23
Deihmosis there a way to solve loud fan noise?03:23
chadamsapt-get update the same errors, plus a lot of downloading errors03:23
almoxarifechadams: have you tried deleting the 'lock' file mentioned?03:24
KBentley57chadams, i wonder if networking is enabled.  can you ping google?03:24
blackshirtchadams, maybe you need more detail03:24
chadamsread only file system when trying to delete the lock file03:24
chadamsunknown host www.google.ca03:25
almoxarifechadams: have you rebooted since seeing the Read/only error?03:25
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seeqwellsudo apt-get -f install03:25
seeqwellyou forgot the install03:25
blackshirtchadams, like your connections problem03:25
chadamsalmoxarife, blackshirt: KBentley57 has been helping me03:26
seeqwelleveryone is going back to debian03:26
almoxarifechadams: i didn't ask who was helping you, i asked if you had rebooted since the RO error, it's a yes or no question!03:27
mike44Anyone familiar with gutenprint here?03:27
chadamsalmoxarife, no03:27
chadamsI did a mount -a03:28
blackshirtseeqwell, no matter, debian was greats03:29
saruthikoIs it possible to install a wireless driver in ndiswrapper that only comes as an .exe?03:31
blackshirtchadams, you can't ping google, check your internet connections03:32
chadamsi'm rebooting again03:32
almoxarifesaruthiko: maybe not, ndis uses the ini file, the exe is a self-exec-zip?03:33
blackshirtinf03:33
chadamsblackshirt, there didn't seem to be a start-network, or network-start command03:34
chadamsi thought I recalled that existing03:34
almoxarifeblackshirt: right, inf03:34
blackshirtchadams, what you mean ?03:34
saruthikoalmoxarife: I don't know.  All I know is that the only available download is an .exe and it cannot be opened in archive manager.03:34
chadamsone version of linux i used had such a command, internet worked after i typed it03:35
chadamsfrom the console03:35
chadamsmight have been linux mint03:35
almoxarifesaruthiko: there is 'wine'03:36
chadamsthat or knoppix03:36
blackshirtchadams, what type connection you are using ? Lan ? Usb modem ?03:36
chadamslan03:36
saruthikoalmoxarife: would wine work for something like installing a driver?..  I didn't understand it to be used for that kind of thing.03:37
almoxarifechadams: lets assume you don't have a crippled system, what is the aversion to a reboot? is it a server doing the queens works?03:37
chadamsI just rebooted03:38
chadamsto the recovery menu, then to the root shell03:38
almoxarifesaruthiko: wine wouldn't work for installing the driver into linux, but it would open the exe assuming it's a self-extracting thing03:38
saruthikoalmoxarife: ah, good point! i'll try that.03:39
almoxarifesaruthiko: this is why a copy of xp via vbox is always a good thing to keep around :)03:39
blackshirtchadams, commonly if you using dhcp for your connections, use dhclient would bring you to up03:40
chadamsdhclient lan0?03:42
blackshirtchadams, dhclient eth0,03:42
blackshirtits depends your lan card interfaces03:43
chadamsseems like it can't start because of a read only file system03:43
chadamssame issue I had before03:43
chadamswith trying to get my graphics drivers uninstalled and reinstalled03:43
blackshirtchadams, that maybe you have a problems with youur disk/partition...03:43
chadamsI'm on my laptop talking here, and trying to fix my desktop's ubuntu installation03:43
chadamsblackshirt, that would make sense03:44
almoxarifechadams: time to look at the prob being a crippled ext4 file sys03:44
chadamsI booted to the Recovery menu, then went to the root console03:44
chadamsluckily this is through the wubi03:45
chadamsso reinstalling if needed won't be hard03:45
chadamsi'll just loose all the setup I did over the last day and a half03:45
almoxarifechadams: yes, re-install03:45
almoxarifethe issues you are having are not worth the time03:46
chadams*sigh*, if I install it using usb or cd, will it be less likely to corrupt?03:46
chadamsi.e. creating an actual partition and such03:46
blackshirtchadams, fsck your disk03:46
eli___hello, could you help me please? my system returned 'No entry for terminal type "xterm";03:46
eli___using dumb terminal settings.' when i started psql. what can i do searching? would you teach me?03:46
eli___ 03:47
chadamsblackshirt, fsck'ing03:47
almoxarifechadams: a wubi install does all the disk creating, if you are wanting to do actual disk creation then get 'gparted' free up disk space and do an actual install, yes you will lose MBR, so what, you got grub03:48
chadamsI ordered some 12.10 cds anyway03:50
somsipeli___: possibly you need ncurses-term to be installed. What shell are you using?03:50
eli___somsip: bash03:51
somsipeli___: I used to have the same thing with urxvt256, and installing ncurses-term fixed it. Are you on a standard install?03:51
eli___yes03:52
gurjeetI need kinda urgent help. I was messing around, trying to install nvidia drivers; instructions from here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaManual. That didn't work out so I reverted every step.03:52
eli___ah i don't know what about installed. i checked03:52
eli___DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu03:52
eli___DISTRIB_RELEASE=12.0403:52
chadamsblackshirt, fsck seems to be hung03:52
FloodBot1eli___: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.03:52
eli___DISTRIB_CODENAME=precise03:52
eli___DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS"03:52
somsipeli___: I'd suggest installing ncurses-term to see if that's an easy fix. Simple to remove if it's not03:53
gurjeetBut now I can login into the gnome but after the login, I don't get the Unity launcher, statusbar etc. Strangely the commands in 'Startup Applications' do get executed and I can see my applications launched.03:53
gurjeetI can see the icon on desktop, can open applications like terminal, and launch more applications from there. But I am missing the Unity panel, and the status bar!03:55
chadamslooks like I'll need to reinstall, when installing drivers for my radeon next time, should i get them from the amd site or from the ubuntu software center?03:55
blackshirtchadams, looks bad03:55
chadamsblackshirt, alright, i'll boot into win7 then03:56
chadamsuninstall, and then I'll try it again when I get the dvds03:57
chadamsstill have ubuntu 12.10 running on my laptop03:57
chadamsmuch better than win803:57
epikvisionchadams, that's right!03:58
chadamswin8 feels horrible03:58
chadamseverything feels glitchy about the interface03:58
chadamspoorly designed, even03:58
chadamshard to use03:58
chadamslaptop graphics drivers don't work03:58
somsipchadams: we get the idea...OT03:59
Captain_ClawAnyone using gnome-shell on ubuntu precise?04:00
chadamsI'll be using ubuntu to develop the linux version of my game engine, and I'll definately put it up on the ubuntu store04:00
chadamswhen the game is finished04:00
sk_somebody spask chinese04:03
epikvisionGood morning! What are the major shells to learn for Unix development?04:03
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zombifier!cn04:04
ubottu如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw04:04
zombifierepikvision: Most of the time Bash is enough04:05
Danoncool the /time command still works04:05
sk_thinks04:06
wilee-nileeepikvision, There is a ##unix chanel if needed04:06
GerowenWhy does Gimp from the Ubuntu repos only have XCF, Bzip and Gzip as formats to save images in?  I don't have JPG, PNG, BMP or anything.04:07
jafletchherro04:09
zombifierGerowen: You need to "export" an image in order to save it as PNG, GIF, etc.04:09
brandon420heyy04:09
brandon420jafletch =)04:09
brandon420Can someone help me get my external working again? I just added "discard,noatime" to my /etc/fstab for the speed boost that it gives a ssd, and it caused my external hdd to not mount...04:09
Gerowenzombifier: Yeah I just noticed that while reading the Gimp help file, :p04:09
cluelesscoderso how do I install software from a ppa? I've trying to install nightinggale http://getnightingale.com/all-versions.php04:09
Gerowenzombifier: Thanks though!04:09
cluelesscoderI've gotten the ppa added using sudo add-apt-repository but when I try to install it using sudo apt-get upgrade, it's not installing04:10
zombifiercluelesscoder: You must do a "sudo apt-get update" first04:10
cluelesscoderalso don't have any idea what name I would use if I installed using sudo apt-get install ... this is the first time I've tried installing with a ppa; usually just use synaptic to mark for installation04:10
cluelesscoderzombifier, I did do sudo apt-get update...04:10
brandon420cluelesscoder, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/how-to-add-a-ppa-to-software-sources-in-ubuntu04:10
zombifierThen open Synaptic04:11
brandon420cluelesscoder, Then just sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install application-name04:11
cluelesscoderhow would I find the technical application name?04:11
saruthikoalmoxarife: it was a self-extracting zip. :) good call!04:11
brandon420cluelesscoder, google does wonders. One second and i will search for you.04:11
cluelesscoderalready tried nightinggale, it doesn't work04:12
delaccan anyone explain to me why System Settings -> Details has my gpu details when used from live-usb, but after install they are "unkown"?04:12
cluelesscoderalready been through a few forums and ubuntu pages04:12
brandon420cluelesscoder, http://handytutorial.com/install-nightingale-ubuntu-12-10-12-04/04:12
brandon420do it with only one g04:12
brandon420And thanks for that, i am going to install that now.04:12
brandon420Can someone help me get my external working again? I just added "discard,noatime" to my /etc/fstab for the speed boost that it gives a ssd, and it caused my external hdd to not mount.04:13
simplewhow can i change lightdm theme so that appears like when the one installed in ubuntu, i have isntalled kubuntu04:13
almoxarifedelac: because some driver/app in the stick is not in the final install?04:14
eli___hello04:14
cluelesscoderhuh, yeah, sorry that was dumb04:14
brandon420simplew, Have you tried logging out and choosing it at the login screen?04:14
brandon420cluelesscoder, we all make mistakes, lol.04:14
zombifierdelac: what is your graphic card?04:15
brandon420Can anyone help me to get my system to recognize my external hdd?04:15
delacalmoxarife, almoxarife: the gpu is just lousy intel integrated. and what driver that could be?04:16
brandon420delac, i am curious to know the answer to your question aswell. I have the same problem but i do not notice any graphics issues...04:18
almoxarifedelac: the proof that the gpu is/was good enough was it being seen while running off the live/stick, as to what driver you are missing i am clueless, can you do a side by side comparision? or at least get the logs for xorg while on stick and compare to the installed?04:18
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delacbrandon420: neither do I. it's just a very ligh anoyance :)04:18
brandon420Can someone help me tweak my ssd on 12.10?04:19
kristenbbhi, I've just installed ubuntu (1) alongside another ubuntu (2), on two different hard drives (A and B). If I boot on A, I have access to (1), and if I boot on B, nothing happens. I want to access (2). How to do that ?04:20
delacalmoxarife: I'm not so sure it's xorg problem. Probably has more to do with the System Settings that fetches the information04:20
almoxarifedelac: comparing the two dirs/folders would not hurt either , /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/04:20
kristenbbhi, I've just installed ubuntu (12.04) alongside another ubuntu (10.04), on two different hard drives (A and B). If I boot on A, I have access to (10.04), and if I boot on B, nothing happens. I want to access (12.04). How to do that ? I think it's a MBR issue, but I don't know how to deal with it.04:21
brandon420kristenbb, a shot in the dark, but have you looked in /media/?04:22
kristenbbbrandon420: looked for what?04:23
almoxarifekristenbb: sounds more like a mount issue? you have two partions at least, they should load into either OS running at the time04:23
brandon420kristenbb, for the drive. Not sure if a internal hdd would show in /media/. but that is where external hdds mount too04:24
delacalmoxarife:  there aint any  /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/04:24
brandon420almoxarife, think you could help me get my external to mount correctly? =x04:24
newbchessplayerhello04:24
brandon420hay04:24
kristenbbalmoxarife: I'm sorry I don't understand what you mean? My question is, how can I make the new OS start, instead of the old one.04:25
almoxarifedelac: my bad then, i was looking at my setup on opensuse, the equiv must exist04:25
simplewwhat do i need to install to have lightdm appearing like when installing ubuntu???04:25
almoxarifekristenbb: you mean you don't see one of the os's on the grub screen? sort of lost now04:26
kristenbbalmoxarife: actually I don't even see any grub screen04:27
brandon420almoxarife, She installed ubuntu twice and is not able to choose what to boot. Is what i gather.04:27
borkdoxkristenbb, you can run grub form either the installation CD or the 10.04 install.  you will be able to autodetect all the OS and chose the drive on which GRUB will be installed. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#Reinstalling_GRUB_204:27
delacalmoxarife: well, ubuntu doesnt use xorg.conf anymore...04:27
newbchessplayermy computer is running 12.04. It takes a loooong time to restart and im keep getting notifications that Ubuntu couldn't download from the repositories. I want to reinstall the whole system but there are a lot of programs with setups that took a long time. Is there another option for me? Possibly to upgrade in some special way so that it fixes the problems I'm experiencing?04:27
saruthikohow do I check which driver my wifi card is using/04:28
almoxarifedelac: correct, not looking for xorg.conf, looking for a dir with some rules that are auto created at boot via udev(i think, not sure about that one)04:28
wilee-nileekristenbb, When you installed to the second drive was this an auto install, and have you tried booting from that drive?04:29
almoxarifekristenbb: what do you choose the OS to run from?04:29
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cutegeekgirl:P04:30
cutegeekgirlplease  help me04:30
cutegeekgirlmy computer is broken04:30
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kristenbbwilee-nilee: yes I have tried booting from that drive, but nothing happens. I think the grub information was installed on the other drive, maybe ?04:30
borkdoxlol04:30
newbchessplayer:P04:30
kristenbbwilee-nilee: however, if I run a live cd, it correctly guesses that there are two OS installed.04:31
wilee-nileekristenbb, Thats a good conjecture you can as suggested use a live cd and chroot to the new install and load grub to its mbr, or we could have you run a script that will give us the info really needed to put in a pastebin.04:31
brandon420Can someone help me get preload working?04:31
almoxarifekristenbb: run in terminal on both os's 'sudo update-grub'04:31
newbchessplayermy computer is running 12.04. It takes a loooong time to restart and im keep getting notifications that Ubuntu couldn't download from the repositories. I want to reinstall the whole system but there are a lot of programs with setups that took a long time. Is there another option for me? Possibly to upgrade in some special way so that it fixes the problems I'm experiencing?04:32
kristenbbwilee-nilee: ok so once I have run a live cd, and chosen 'try ubuntu', what next ?04:32
almoxarifebrandon420: preload works in the background, not much one can do to it besides installing it04:32
brandon420Any other tricks i can use to speed up my system?04:33
saruthikohow do I check which driver my wifi card is using?04:33
almoxarifebrandon420: i know of one really scary one :) , prelink04:33
somsipbrandon420: speed up what, exactly?04:33
brandon420somsip, boot times, load times. Before i upgraded to 12.10 my computer seemed much faster..04:34
wilee-nileekriskropd, Here is a grub wiki that defaults to a chroot method, it can be a bit confusing so if you follow it feel free to ask any questions.04:34
wilee-nileehttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_ChRoot04:34
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somsipbrandon420: ah - I can't help with 12.10 upgrade issues, sorry04:34
brandon420somsip, would upgrading change my modifications i made for my ssd?04:35
wilee-nileekristenbb, Sorry, Here is a grub wiki that defaults to a chroot method, it can be a bit confusing so if you follow it feel free to ask any questions.04:35
wilee-nilee  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_ChRoot04:35
almoxarifebrandon420: nevermind about prelink, something else is eating the cpu cycles, looked at the logs for obvious? system monitor for hogs? 'htop' also good for it, for the cli purists04:35
brandon420almoxarife, I have, nothing seems out of the ordinary. but my boot times have went from like 8 seconds to 15-2004:36
brandon420and i am back to waiting for stuff to load again. -_-04:36
newbchessplayermy computer is running 12.04. It takes a loooong time to restart and im keep getting notifications that Ubuntu couldn't download from the repositories. I want to reinstall the whole system but there are a lot of programs with setups that took a long time. Is there another option for me? Possibly to upgrade in some special way so that it fixes the problems I'm experiencing?04:36
almoxarifebrandon420: install 'bootchart' something pretty to look for issues with04:37
zombifiernewbchessplayer: what are the exact messages of those notifications?04:37
kristenbbwilee-nilee: I'm doing it. Is the step 'Mount the critical virtual filesystems.' really required?04:38
brandon420newbchessplayer, I am going to have to say that there isn't. Upgrading /may/ help out a little, but i wouldn't get your hopes up. I have had to start over again may times because of a random system error. You could go through and trouble shoot each and every problem though. Check all of the recent changes that you have made to the system.04:38
brandon420almoxarife, I will try that.04:38
wilee-nileekristenbb, #8 yes04:39
wilee-nileekristenbb, Just copy and paste that command04:39
almoxarifebrandon420: btw, 'preload' is used post boot, but i used to think it made a diff04:39
djjeff[   11.146278] vesafb: mode is 640x480x32, linelength=2560, pages=0      how do I change this to 1920x1080x32   ?04:40
almoxarifebrandon420: 'prelink' that's the ticket :)04:40
newbchessplayerzombifier, hold on im going to upload a screenshot04:41
brandon420almoxarife, Could you give me the tldr; version of what prelink is? (Wondering if it would be worth the time learning/researching)04:41
almoxarifedjjeff: vesa sounds like fallback/failsafe04:41
brandon420bootchart is looking pretty niffty though04:41
djjeffcan I disable vesa ?04:41
djjeffcause when ubuntu boots thats the resolution it uses04:42
brandon420ouch04:42
almoxarifebrandon420: not sure what version its at, google it, its really off subject here, i personally believe it does speed up the whole process in kde, most others don't, so its really a try and see if it works for you04:43
wilee-nileedjjeff, That resolution is probably to high at the grub menu, you can change it in this file though and run a update-grub afterwards before rebooting. gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub04:44
almoxarifedjjeff: what graphics card/capability do you have? being in vesa graphics ususally means something is not running at its best graphics wiise04:44
brandon420almoxarife, Alright, i will check it out. I am about to do a reboot and see what bootchart gives me. So i will return in a few minutes04:44
newbchessplayerzombifier, did you get that04:44
saruthikoI've blacklisted iwlwifi and installed the proprietary wifi driver via ndiswrapper and I can see it under "currently installed windows drivers," but ubuntu doesn't seem to realize I have wifi.  Under enable networking (which is checked) there is no enable wireless.  Any idea what I'm missing?04:44
kristenbbwilee-nilee: ok, I'm done with the tutorial. I'm at step 11. I typed 'update-grub'. BUT the output of this command is: "found linnux image: /boot/... found initrd image: /boot/... found memtest86+ image: /boot/... found ubuntu 10.04 oon /dev/sda4. done" There is no "found ubuntu 12.04..." is that expected ?04:44
almoxarifesaruthiko: headers for your kernel?04:45
saruthikoalmoxarife: I don't know what that means04:45
djjeffI installed NVIDIA drivers from NVIDIAs website04:45
djjeffcause I have a Geforce GTX 560 ti04:45
wilee-nileekristenbb, Did you run the sudo fdisk -l command to confirm the 12.04 partition and mount it first?04:46
almoxarifedjjeff: might want to look at all the reasons to delete that install and look at nvidia-current package04:46
kristenbbwilee-nilee: mount it first ? what do you mean ? I chrooted into the 12.04 partition.04:46
wilee-nileekristenbb,  #5 command in that wiki04:47
kristenbbwilee-nilee: (which is  on /dev/sdb)04:47
almoxarifedjjeff: with that kind of graphics you should be doing better than vesa, unless you intentionally are booting into fallback/failsafe mode04:47
kristenbbwilee-nilee: yes I issued that command.04:47
djjeffwill installing nvidia-current affect my GAMES in WINE 1.5.1604:48
wilee-nileekristenbb, It is hard to say what is going on from here I would rather see this script to get all the info needed myself, to not be guessing here. http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/04:49
almoxarifedjjeff: i would hope 'wine' appreciates a nvidia driver over 'vesa' , not sure what would happen though04:49
CreepDeckHi, I downloaded an rss feed for viewing in the terminal, however, there is a lot of html stuff in it, is there a way to remove that, and then show the news one line after the other?04:49
brandon420almoxarife, Have you ever used bootchart?04:50
almoxarifebrandon420: i have04:50
wilee-nileekristenbb, You just want to close the chroot with crtl-D and run the script unless you want to reboot to see whats up, the script will tell us if anything is missing and where everything is at.04:50
grendal_primeanyone ever had any luck with lvs?04:50
brandon420http://i.imgur.com/aEOE0.png04:51
newbchessplayerzombifier, how do you remove the redshift ppa and how do I get the correct ppa?04:51
almoxarifeCreepDeck: you want to cli rss feed stripped of html, don't like a nice gui rss reader?04:51
fsrvgpastebin.com/iAR0rnhP04:51
CreepDeckalmoxarife: nah, I am a terminal guy.04:51
kristenbbwilee-nilee: I rebooted but the problem is still the same.04:52
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reufhello04:52
zombifiernewbchessplayer: sudo add-apt-repository -r ppa:jonls/redshift-ppa04:52
almoxarifeCreepDeck: well then terminal guy, there you have it, you need a html-strip from my rss feed dump script04:52
CreepDeckOk, thanks!04:53
wilee-nileekristenbb, I would run the bootscript, it will get us a lot closer to finding what is up, you would just paste all the text to a pastebin. http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/04:53
newbchessplayerI have to go. thanks for the advice zombifier04:54
kristenbbwilee-nilee: ok04:54
reufi have chomre installed, and i want to control more than one sound on different browsers but on system level04:55
reufor04:55
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reufif i have firefox and chrome and i want to mute sound on firefox but leave it on chrome on system level - how?04:55
almoxarifereuf: are you running both browser at the same time?04:57
GenghisCainhmm04:57
reufalmoxarife: yes04:57
almoxarifereuf: i am guessing that there is a good reason for it04:58
wilee-nileekristenbb, So the 10.04 boots though it seems did you run a sudo update-grub there yet?04:58
kristenbbwilee-nilee: no04:58
reufi want to listen to music on one browser and play a game on the other which has a soun and no options to mute the sound04:58
kristenbbwilee-nilee: i'm running the script now, maybe i'll do that next04:58
wilee-nileekristenbb, YOu might try that first if 12.04 is in good shape it should show then.04:59
wilee-nileekriskropd, Cool if you have the script just post it first then.04:59
reufhttp://dagobah.net/flash/the_worlds_hardest_game.swf < i want to play this, and listen to this > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLjHw-Xc_N8 ; but i cannot seem to find a way to mute the sound on the game04:59
wilee-nileekristenbb, We want the script to read exactly as it is a update grub wil change things.05:00
almoxarifereuf: while both are running with sound coming from either, look at the 'soundmixer' applet, reduce output from the one you don't care to listen to?05:00
CrazyHorse18If i have a directory called deploy:deploy 770 /apps   is there a way i can default all directories and files under that to be also owned by the deploy:deploy group?05:01
CrazyHorse18group and user that is05:01
reufalmoxarife: alright fixed it - works05:02
reufthanks05:02
almoxarife:)05:02
almoxarifegui's are our friends05:02
kristenbbwilee-nilee: pastebin.com/dNAj2SYt05:03
wilee-nileethanks hold on05:03
ace_leohey all, noob alert ;)05:05
wilee-nileekristenbb, Can you copy all the text from that script, primarily I see you are missing part of the full grub files needed in the 12.04, but all the text is needed.05:05
brandon420A weird question, Is there anyway to remove the ubuntu splash screen and make it display the active terminal?05:07
almoxarifebrandon420: yes, grub edit05:08
kristenbbwilee-nilee: which part do you need in the results ? I'm not confortable publicly copy pasting things about my computer that I don't understand.05:08
brandon420almoxarife, could you push me in the right direction of googling?05:08
almoxarifebrandon420: using gnome or kde?05:08
wilee-nileekristenbb, All that text tells nothing about your computer that is worrisome, we use this script everyday and there is no exposure.05:09
brandon420gnome i guess... unitiy.05:09
brandon420(also have gnome installed)05:09
almoxarifebrandon420: via terminal          gksu gedit /etc/default/grub05:09
almoxarifesplash=silent quiet <--- brandon420 do you see either of those two words in the 'kernel' line?05:12
wilee-nileekristenbb, here is one of mine run with a tool called bootrepair if that helps. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1319937/05:13
devjustforfunPeople how to know where my apache2 logs stored05:13
SwedeMikedevjustforfun: /var/log/apache2 mot likely.05:14
almoxarifedevjustforfun: /var/log/apache???05:14
brandon420almoxarife, not any more. lol.05:14
devjustforfun-bash: cd: apache2/: Permission denied If i have that?05:14
almoxarifebrandon420: put it back when you tire of the screen show05:14
SwedeMikedevjustforfun: sudo -i first.05:14
brandon420almoxarife, Alright, thank you. I shall return05:14
devjustforfuni havent permissions05:15
devjustforfunat all05:15
brandon420devjustforfun, sudo passwd05:15
devjustforfunmaybe exist another way how to see05:15
brandon420set the password, then su -05:15
almoxarifebrandon420: run update-grub after the edit05:15
SwedeMike!root05:15
ubottuDo not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo05:15
brandon420almoxarife, Already did. =)05:15
SwedeMikebrandon420: please don't recommend people to set root password.05:15
brandon420=/05:16
brandon420Sorry. lol.05:16
brandon420It comes in handy sometimes. =)05:16
devjustforfuni'm not sudo user05:16
devjustforfunmay be some link exist which i may see05:16
devjustforfunto apache2 logs05:17
almoxarifebrandon420: don't you have the util 'gnome-system-log'? did i spell that correctly?05:17
SwedeMikedevjustforfun: you have to be root or be in the adm group to look at the apache logs.05:17
almoxarifegui's are our friends05:17
devjustforfunSwedeMike it's not posible for my account ))05:18
devjustforfunSwedeMike maybe admin might do for me some links to my folder and that will be work?05:19
almoxarifedevjustforfun: in terminal   gksu gnome-system-log05:19
devjustforfunlinks from apache log to my user folder05:19
devjustforfuni havent gui for gksu05:19
devjustforfungui not installed05:20
grendal_primethis is making me crazy05:20
grendal_primeer05:20
almoxarifedevjustforfun: tail (-f) /var/log/apache????.log05:21
almoxarifedevjustforfun: sudo tail (-f) /var/log/apache????.log05:21
devjustforfunalmoxarife i'm not sudo user05:22
almoxarifedevjustforfun: good luck05:22
devjustforfun))05:22
Jimster480-Laptocan anyone here get on rapidshare?05:22
chasedawgHey my sound isn't working on my recently installed 12.10, suggestions?05:22
devjustforfunalmoxarife maybe i should ask my administrator to give me a symbolic link to apache logs?05:23
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almoxarifedevjustforfun: yes05:23
simplewI have sintalled kubuntu but i would like to have the login screen like it apepars in ubuntu, what do i need to do?05:24
devjustforfunthat means if admin do something ln -s /var/log /home/myuser/logs that means myuser will be access logs05:24
almoxarifedevjustforfun: install 'lightdm'05:25
almoxarifedevjustforfun: carefully05:25
devjustforfunlightdm what's that,05:25
chasedawgHey my sound isn't working on my recently installed 12.10, suggestions?05:25
devjustforfun?05:25
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almoxarifechasedawg: install 'alsamixer' run it in terminal, see 'mm' shown in 'output' devices?05:27
chasedawgalmoxarife: I don't see mm in output devices05:28
crozI need some help with Grub. I installed Easy BCD trying to fix something for a game. Then I installed Windows 8. Didn't like it so I reinstalled Windows 7. After that I decided to give Linux a go since I hadn't used it in some months. I reinstalled Ubuntu thinking it would just wipe my old install automatically. I ran boot-repair and now Grub is there, but when I select Linux Mint it takes me05:28
crozto the old installation.05:28
devjustforfunalmoxarife that means if admin do something ln -s /var/log /home/myuser/logs that means myuser will be access logs05:28
chasedawgalmoxarife: just kidding, I found the 'mm', what should I do with 'mm'05:30
almoxarifedevjustforfun: i am not good with 'if's , i don't know apache, but i assume that it has a group and i would ask to me put in it, that's a guess btw05:31
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almoxarifechasedawg: un-mm the outputs, every single one of them05:31
almoxarifechasedawg: assuming you done that, reboot, good luck05:32
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Jimster480-Lanyone around here who can help me on something for a sec05:44
grendal_primegrrr linux virtual server (load balancer)05:49
grendal_primeanyone ever got this working?05:49
physically_fitwhattup05:52
raldare there package sources for old linux like warty warthog?05:55
the_dark_knightI have been trying to connect to a machine but I get "ssh: connect to host 192.168.1.3 port 22: Connection refused05:59
julius_hi06:00
julius_how do i enable a firefox that runs as a differnt user to use my soundcard?   terminal error:  ALSA lib confmisc.c:768:(parse_card) cannot find card '0'06:00
the_dark_knightI have been trying to solve it for a while but no luck. what seems to be the problem?06:00
julius_the_dark_knight, is that for me?06:01
somsipthe_dark_knight: is the ip correct, is sshd running, is the port open...what have you checked?06:02
the_dark_knightsomsip: how do I check if the port is open. sshd seems to be running because I can ssh other machines except this one?06:05
NoOovaHello all!06:05
NoOovawhat rights must has /etc/shadow06:05
NoOova?06:05
Gallomimiahey what's the package to install the do-release-upgrade command again?06:05
the_dark_knightsomsip: did netstat -nlp | grep :22 it says sshd is running on 22.06:06
somsipthe_dark_knight: netstat -a | grep 2206:06
Gallomimiaupdate-manager-core06:06
somsipthe_dark_knight: you're trying to login using user/pass or key? Does the /etc/ssh/sshd_config allow the method you're trying to use?06:07
almoxarifeNoOova:  admin06:07
somsipNoOova: root:shadow 64006:09
the_dark_knightsomsip: trying to ssh with user and pass06:09
somsipthe_dark_knight: so you need PasswordAuthentication no06:09
somsipthe_dark_knight: sorry - bad paste. That should be yes, of course06:10
the_dark_knightsomsip: netstat -nlp | grep :22 gave some results. but  sudo netstat -a | grep 22 didn't show anything about port 2206:10
somsipthe_dark_knight: I use -a without really understanding other options, I admit06:10
almoxarifethe_dark_knight: you are the client ,yes?06:13
akisdows any one has experience from wine application?06:13
the_dark_knightalmoxarife: yes.06:13
paran0id_penguinhigh06:13
paran0id_penguini need some help06:13
paran0id_penguini want to renice a job called par2 but in the background06:14
erase_hello. fresh installed 12.10 on my eeepc. does not start X. :|06:14
erase_known problem?06:14
the_dark_knightalmoxarife: somsip, what I don't understand is how I can ssh other machines but not this one?06:15
paran0id_penguinyeah ask doctor Xorg06:15
somsipthe_dark_knight: it suggests that your client is okay, but your ssh server on the remote server is not.06:15
almoxarifethe_dark_knight: are you sure the host creditials are correct06:16
the_dark_knightalmoxarife: It doesn't even ask for the pass. when I hit ssh user@IP. it gives the "connection refused" error06:17
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almoxarifethe_dark_knight:  you hit a fire wall06:19
Guest45092the_dark_knight: The system may be poweroff or perhabs external connecton is refussed or the system has  no openssh-client installed at that system  if it is debian based06:19
Guest45092the_dark_knight: Or may be due to iptable rules, Pardon me if i am wrong06:19
the_dark_knightGuest45092: the machine is right next to me and can ssh my machine.06:21
erase_does it have the openssh-server package installer, the_dark_knight ?06:22
erase_*installed06:22
Guest45092the_dark_knight: it means that machine has set iptables for no ssh connection also there might be a possibility that, that machine have no openssh-server  installed that is necessary06:23
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brandon420How can I change the login screen, or completely disable it?06:31
erase_brandon420, set it to auto-login06:32
arkfilleHello06:33
the_dark_knightGuest45092: what should I do then?06:34
erase_the_dark_knight: sudo apt-get install openssh-server06:35
the_dark_knighterase_: on the machine I can't ssh to right?06:35
erase_yes06:35
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paran0id_penguinthe dark bright06:36
Guest45092the_dark_knight: Go and install openssh-server if already not nistalled in that system and then allow your system ip for ssh to that machine using iptables, you can flush iptables but it is not good idea, use a rule for ssh06:36
paran0id_penguinufw is ok?06:36
brandon420can i disable plyouth?06:37
StormOnehey06:37
brandon420plymouth**06:37
paran0id_penguinyes, but you have to ask the puritanians there06:37
Guest45092the_dark_knight:  You can also set iptbales rules by ip and also by MAC address06:38
the_dark_knightGuest45092: I don't understand the "allow your system ip for ssh to that machine using  iptables06:38
the_dark_knight" part06:38
paran0id_penguinbrandon420 i toke you understand06:38
Guest45092the_dark_knight: i suggest to read a manual for ssh connection, go through google06:39
Guest45092the_dark_knight:  Good Luck Man !06:39
brandon420paran0id_penguin, i have no idea what that means.06:41
brandon420lol06:41
paran0id_penguinah the puritans ruled plymouth06:41
paran0id_penguinso you have to ask those dudes06:41
brandon420hahaha06:42
the_dark_knightGuest45092: thanks man installing openssh-server on machine 2 did the trick. so openssh-server was to allow someone to ssh access not to do ssh on some other machine. right?06:43
Guest45092the_dark_knight: To connect to any machine that machine have must installed openssh-server and to make a connecton to that machine you must have to install open-ssh client06:46
Guest45092the_dark_knight: * openssh-client06:46
afidegnumhello pls this is a sample shell script which is aimed to split csv files into pieces and preserving the header. so far, it's aimed to call a single file. how do I split multiple files?06:48
devjustforfunPeople hi. i have a version of php 5.3.18 and i setup in my suhosin.ini file which located in /etc/php5/apache2/conf.d  suhosin.memory_limit=512 and in my script i setup ini_set('memory_limit', '512M'); but i have anyway error: PHP Fatal error:  Allowed memory size of 134217728 bytes exhausted06:48
afidegnumhttp://pastebin.com/a0tnR38r06:48
devjustforfunAny suggestion please06:48
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erase_afidegnum: for i in $(ls); do script $i; done06:51
Gallomimiadevjustforfun: that seems like you hit the ulimit06:51
devjustforfunGallomimia ulimit what's that?06:51
Gallomimiai'm not well versed in working with those or changing them. but do a google and read the man for ulimit06:51
devjustforfunGallomimia how to increase that ?06:52
zblut1Hello06:52
afidegnumerase_: euh number shoud I modify? or I should add to the end?06:52
zblut1does anyone know how to add a custom action to the right click menu for gnome-terminal on Ubuntu 10.04?06:52
Gallomimiafirst check what the ulimits for memory are and compare to the error message you got06:52
Gallomimiajust to see if it's in the neighborhood of what's going on06:52
devjustforfunulimits that related to my operation system?06:53
Gallomimiai am having trouble with my new vps giving me an error when performing do-release-upgrade for out of memory problem. can anyone give me a suggestion there? i think i need to mount some swap06:53
erase_afidegnum, no. you run this command in the command line. replace "script" by your script filename, and "ls" by "ls thedirectorywherethefilesare"06:53
erase_afidegnum: for i in $(ls); do script $i; done06:53
Gallomimiadevjustforfun: it's a simple limit for users. just a config to prevent fork bombs and stuff06:54
afidegnumok06:54
erase_afidegnum: it will run your script once for each file in the directory06:56
erase_get it?06:56
afidegnumI named the script, xplit which I should call  sh ./xplit file.txt     so now. with the for loop, should i do for i in $(mydir); do ./xplit $i; done   in bash? or I need to modify xplit script?06:57
afidegnumerase_: ?06:58
erase_afidegnum: for i in $(ls -1 mydir); do ./xplit $i; done06:58
erase_i'm on windows :S06:59
afidegnumok, merci :)06:59
afidegnumI am also on windows working on a linux server :06:59
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shannonnobody here?07:03
afidegnumok, second, I think mv command does not allow to specify the number of files to move at a time07:04
afidegnumI was doing mv 1000 to newfolder07:04
afidegnumor what's the correct way?07:04
erase_no it does not07:05
kurslol07:05
rhizmoeat a time?07:06
kurs_urs07:06
kurshi07:06
the_dark_knightHi, when I open index.php through my browser on apache2. a file named download is getting downloaded. It seems that apache2 is not responding to the php files. What should I do? please help07:06
rhizmoeinstall mod_php there are instructions everywhere07:06
kurs_kupa07:07
kurs_kupa07:07
daggs1-workhello, I'm using ubuntu 12.04 and for some reason when ever I try to mount a image file, it is always gets mounted a ro, why is that?07:07
rhizmoewhere can i get quake data files?07:07
kurs_kotala to idiota07:07
somsipthe_dark_knight: or even, just install php507:07
kurs_bubula jest fajny07:07
rhizmoegoogle "apache php" boom headshot07:07
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edekelo07:08
rhizmoefantastic07:08
the_dark_knightsomsip: I already have php507:08
edekkotala ty idjoto07:08
somsipthe_dark_knight: how did you install it?07:08
somsipthe_dark_knight: and what version of ubuntu07:09
the_dark_knightsomsip: sudo apt-get07:09
edeknuda co nie07:09
the_dark_knightsomsip: 5.307:09
edekidiota07:09
somsipthe_dark_knight: and what version of *ubuntu*07:09
the_dark_knightsomsip: sorry php 5.3 and ubuntu 10.0407:10
the_dark_knightsomsip: how do i install mod_php manually07:10
somsipthe_dark_knight: are you serving the index.php from the default /var/www directory?07:10
somsipthe_dark_knight: you don't. It should work fine if installed with apt-get07:11
the_dark_knightI don't have php5.load files in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled07:11
Alexi_Hello, Is there a way to echo what an Audio player is playing to the Windows equivalent of "What you Hear / Wave-out", when I am in chat program, Paltalk .. Loopback ?07:11
somsipthe_dark_knight: try sudo a2enmod php5, but surely 10.04 should start this automatically07:12
somsipthe_dark_knight: or mod_php5, etc07:12
rhizmoeAlexi_: you mean like airfoil on mac?07:12
the_dark_knightsomsip: it says ERROR: Module php5 does not exist!07:13
rhizmoeAlexi_: http://superuser.com/questions/149095/is-there-an-equivalent-to-airfoil-available-for-linux07:14
Alexi_rhizmoe: I doubt Paltalk would have that, just a simple way to pass audio to wave-out, so i can play music instead of putting microphone next to loudsepakers07:14
foodhello , I want to install the latest kde(4.9) on 12.04 amd64. What source should i add please?07:14
somsipthe_dark_knight: this is a weird way of installing php tp me, but maybe its needed for 10.04 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=154611607:14
Flannelthe_dark_knight, somsip: you need to install libapache2-mod-php5, that will give you the php <-> apache link.07:14
foodsudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports ?07:14
somsipFlannel: just found that. Surprised me07:14
kiffhi all.  My english is poor.  I have a AR9382 pcie in desktop pc.  I would like to build a hotspot in ubuntu 12.10 also it run in 5ghz.07:15
kiffhow to ?07:15
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almoxarifekiff: wireless adhoc?07:16
Alexi_rhizmoe: thanks for that info, its Almost what is needed.07:16
the_dark_knightFlannel: yes that did the trick thanks . thanks to you too somsip07:16
kiffyes07:16
brandon420Can you disable natualius?07:17
somsipthe_dark_knight: no probs - sorry I went round the houses a bit...07:18
joshmcAlexi_: I wont be able to help much more (it's late for me) but have you seen this: http://www.kirsle.net/blog/kirsle/redirect-audio-out-to-mic-in--linux-07:18
Alexi_cheers joshmc07:18
almoxarifebrandon420: yes, install kde and use dolphin, :)07:18
foodAnyone Know please?07:19
brandon420food, I like you.07:19
Alexi_Yes!, thats what i need ty07:19
brandon420What was your question?07:19
Flannelfood: #kubuntu is probably a better place to get that answer.07:19
joshmcAlexi_: glad to help07:19
brandon420almoxarife, Is dolphin more lightweight?07:19
the_dark_knightsomsip: no problemo.07:19
foodbrandon420, I want to install kde 4.9 on ubuntu 64bit07:20
brandon420I have taken my boot time from 59 seconds to 22.59 seconds. =)07:20
brandon420food, one second.07:20
paran0id_penguini need a bhagwan for the mental support of ubuntu07:20
foodthanks07:20
brandon420food, 12.10?07:20
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almoxarifebrandon420: for light you need a lightweight desktop, but i don't think dolphin is any lighter than nautilus07:21
foodbrandon420, 12.4.107:21
paran0id_penguinbhagwan, come help us07:21
almoxarifebrandon420: you do know that a boot should be an experience rarely needed, don't fixate on the little things07:22
foodbrandon420, Just want to install minimal kde07:22
brandon420food, have you tried the software center? kubuntu-desktop07:22
brandon420almoxarife, i am on a laptop that does alot of traveling, lol.07:23
almoxarifefood: install 'qtrazor'07:23
foodbrandon420, That is not old?07:23
foodalmoxarife, what is that?07:23
almoxarifebrandon420: run tamdem dm's, a light and comfortable07:23
Alexi_a new Desktop Environment using qt.07:23
almoxarifefood: it is minimal kde07:24
foodbrandon420, There is a guide http://www.noobslab.com/2012/08/install-kde-49-in-ubuntulinux-mint-new.html but i don't know if it applied for 64bit too07:24
foodalmoxarife, I heard kde-plasma-desktop is for minimal .... Let me search qtrazor :)07:25
brandon420food, i would try that.07:25
brandon420gnome-desktop does not have a 32, 64 bit package.07:25
almoxarifefood: kde plasma is not minimal, it will run minimal if you also have qtrazor installed and login via it07:26
almoxarifefood: search for razor-qt also, same thing07:27
almoxarifei use kde 4.9 , can you tell? :)07:28
foodwhat to tell almoxarife ?07:29
paran0id_penguinno clue07:30
Jeatonsomehow i screwed up my filesystem, now it is unknown under gparted, and it originally was ext407:30
Jeatoni cannot boot to it, mount it or anything07:30
paran0id_penguinforce mount07:30
paran0id_penguinboot up with a cd07:30
Jeatonhow do you force mount it? ive tried booting up with a live cd, but it tells me filesystem is unknown07:31
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brandon420hmmm07:32
brandon420qtrazor is pretty cool07:33
brandon420reminds me of windows >.>07:33
almoxarifeJeaton: i would assume the partion is toast07:35
paran0id_penguini don't hear anything on 80m,07:35
almoxarifeJeaton: you are looking at forensic tools07:35
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Jeatonalmoxarife,07:39
Jeatonsorry, didnt mean to respond with that07:39
hugenumbersi forget what they are called, but what is a good tool for not letting your windows overlap?07:41
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ddsasdsuiqhello07:46
somsiphugenumbers: you need a tiling thingy. What WM are you using?07:48
ddsasdsuiqi use vmware07:52
hugenumberssomsip i just need one to work with my openbox07:52
Gallomimiahow can i slice off a piece of my vps's filesystem and make some swap?07:52
somsiphugenumbers: maybe this will help http://urukrama.wordpress.com/openbox-guide/#Tile07:52
Jordan_UGallomimia: You can just create a swap file.07:53
Gallomimiaoh that's much easier.. know a guide?07:53
hugenumberssomsip: Thanks07:54
msxGallomimia: boot Ubuntu-live, run gparted, shrink -if needed- a partition that have too much space to the size you plan to give to the swap then make the swap on the new space left.07:56
msxGallomimia: you will need to edit /etc/fstab after that to let the system know you have a swap partition it can use.07:56
Gallomimiathis is a vps in a datacenter. there will be no live CD's for me07:57
Jordan_UGallomimia: http://digitizor.com/2011/02/06/create-swap-file-ubuntu-linux/07:57
msxGallomimia: oops, didn't read the *vps* part, lol!07:58
MrInode0MSHi. I need to have only my custom sources.list entries in debian-installer. Does someone know how I can disable the autogeneration of sources.list08:00
Gallomimiathe only reason i feel i need a swap file is cause do-release-upgrade fails with out of memory message. it's a truly tiny vps, and i don't need much ram at all08:00
cristian_cHi08:03
Gallomimiahi.08:04
cristian_cI've found that I can send commands to my irc client from a configuration file: perform.conf08:04
cristian_cfor example: cmd = /join #ubuntu08:04
cristian_cIf I add this line to a particular server section, the command is executed08:04
Gallomimiait's handy08:04
Gallomimiayou can use it to auth too08:05
cristian_cI could launch a script in the same manner: cmd = /exec -o ~/scriptname08:05
cristian_cI'd like to use this tecnique for use a personal quit message in irc08:05
cristian_cHow can I do to get this?08:05
mz|` /quit "message"08:06
somsipcristian_c: you really need support for your IRC client. This is ubuntu support08:06
Gallomimiai think the quit message is in another configure08:06
cristian_csomsip, my client is into the official ubuntu repo08:06
somsipcristian_c: which client do you use?08:07
cristian_cGallomimia, I've checked all the config files :)08:07
cristian_csomsip, lostirc08:07
cristian_cGallomimia, this config file lets me use command and scripts in a server :)08:07
Gallomimiaman lostirc08:08
Gallomimiatype it now ><08:08
amriloillll08:08
cristian_cmz|`, this command quits me from the server. i'd like to use always the same quit message08:09
somsipcristian_c: join #lostirc to get support from people who use this08:09
cristian_csomsip, lostirc is an empty channel08:09
Legolasl08:11
cristian_cGallomimia, i've opened the client's man08:11
cristian_c*I've08:11
cristian_cGallomimia, i've read the man08:11
Gallomimiacristian_c: www.lmgtfy.com?q=lostirc+quit+message08:12
impulzehey ya, how can i change the terminal opened by the unity startmenu and ctrl+alt+t?08:13
Jordan_UGallomimia: Please don't use lmgtfy links, or tell anyone to "google it" in this channel.08:13
Gallomimia$TERM ?08:13
impulzeGallomimia: no?08:14
cristian_cGallomimia, there is no inherent link in the google page :(08:14
cristian_c*there are08:14
Gallomimiaalright well i'm at the end of my ideas for you. as was said earlier, this is ubuntu support, not irc client support08:15
cristian_cGallomimia, I thought it was an official repo package08:16
cristian_c:)08:17
Gallomimiayeah. this is for the operating system, and using it.08:17
helpcryptohi08:17
somsipcristian_c: with common applications, you may well get help in here. With little known applications, you may not. That's why you've been redirected to the support channel for that specfic app08:17
helpcryptoin ubuntu 12.04 (as debian, AFAIK) they have moved to multiarch (/usr/lib/x86_64...), while 10.04 uses /usr/lib64, and 11.04 uses /usr/lib64->lib08:17
helpcryptoto sum up: a complete mess for me08:17
helpcryptois there a command to get the library directory?08:18
helpcryptosomething that in 12.04 returns /usr/lib/x86_64, while /usr/lib64 in 10.04 and whatever in 11 (talking about ubuntu)08:18
cristian_csomsip, where is the blacklisted application for the support channel? :)08:18
cristian_csomsip, I've done that, but it's an empty channel08:19
doomlordit seems to be letting me create a partitioned usb stick with one partition as bootable now ... couldn't do it before - perhaps this is a 12.10 update08:19
somsipcristian_c: you ask, and if people are unable to help you, you come back another time. End of conversation08:19
Gallomimiacristian_c: i browsed the docs a little on their sourceforge page. there may not be a way to set the quit message at all08:19
cristian_csomsip, I do always this :)08:20
impulzewell gconf-editor was the key, thanks for nothing ;)08:20
helpcryptocristian_c: what u looking for?08:20
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cristian_chelpcrypto, I'd like to setup an application to launch commands08:20
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helpcryptocristian_c: so...?08:20
cristian_chelpcrypto, I've seen that my irc client (it's into the ubuntu repo) has got a config file (called perform.conf), that lets to launch commands or scripts08:22
cristian_chelpcrypto, for a particular server :)08:22
helpcryptocristian_c: are you talking about launching command from irc client?08:22
cristian_chelpcrypto, yes08:23
helpcryptothen, dont ask in #ubuntu08:23
cristian_chelpcrypto, where?08:23
helpcryptoyou could contact the mantainer, developer or maillist of that package08:23
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cristian_chelpcrypto, there is an old list for developers. I'll contact the maintainer :)08:26
cristian_chelpcrypto, thanks08:26
helpcryptoi crashed08:28
techiewhenever i try to enable my 3 screen setup ubuntu defaults to clone mode, i am currently using the latest AMD proprietary drivers from their website08:28
helpcryptoso. i asked: is there a way to get the /usr/lib directory? (/usr/lib64, /usr/lib/x86_64...)08:29
amp#handhelds.org08:29
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jeatonis there anyway of changing a filesystem over to ext4 from unknown without formatting?08:36
jeatonor at least reading the partition as if it is ext408:36
HulkHogannope08:37
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fiko!ciao08:40
Slartjeaton: if it *is* a valid ext4 file system you should be able to just mount it as an ext4 filesystem, I suppose08:40
Slartjeaton: or I might be misunderstanding what you want to do08:41
fiko!ciao08:42
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jeatonSlart - it originally had an ext4 filesystem, something happened when I was upgrading ubuntu08:44
jeatonnow it is unbootable, and under gparted, the filesystem is now unknown08:44
Vitamin-DMy best friend Lines won't give me a hug. What do you think I should do?08:45
Slartjeaton: oh.. you might want to try some of the recovery tools that are out there.. some can just recover files but I think there might be a couple that can actually try to fix the filesystem.. I don't think any of them are turnkey systems where you can just press a "fix" button but it might be worth a try08:45
almoxarifejeaton: see a partion that looks familiar in size to yours with another partion number?08:46
Slartjeaton: before you start messing with the recovery tools I would recommend making a backup (if the files are important to you) or you might end up destroying what's left08:46
Slart!recovery | jeaton08:46
ubottujeaton: To rescue a broken system, boot the alternate install CD and select "Rescue a broken system"08:46
Vitamin-DHey, someone. I need to figure out how to get this girl to give me a hug. Any suggestions?08:46
Slartbah.. that wasn't the one08:46
Slart!undelete | jeaton08:47
ubottujeaton: Some tools to recover lost data are listed and explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery - Recovering deleted files on !ext3 filesystems can be virtually impossible, although methods that might work is some cases are described at at http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/undelete_ext3.html and http://projects.izzysoft.de/trac/ext3undel08:47
Vitamin-DHow do I change my GRUB menu background?08:48
rajhi08:48
jeatonthanks08:48
BluebirdShaohi, guys. I wanna check my cpu temperature, but when i used "sensors" command, I got nothing, someone can help me?08:48
L3top!info lm-sensors08:55
ubottulm-sensors (source: lm-sensors): utilities to read temperature/voltage/fan sensors. In component universe, is extra. Version 1:3.3.1-2ubuntu1 (quantal), package size 97 kB, installed size 395 kB08:55
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BluebirdShaoafter "info lm-sensors", I can just see the top of INFO tree.08:59
meltingwaxdoes anyone have any suggestions for software to create music videos for youtube? like one image, and a song08:59
L3topBluebirdShao: the info is for the ubottu factoid that followed. sudo apt-get install lm-sensors09:00
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BluebirdShaoL3top: yes, i've installed lm-sensors, and it's the newest version.09:01
L3topand when you type sensors... you got NO output?09:01
TomyLobohi09:02
TomyLobohow do i check when a package was last updated and from which version to which?09:02
BluebirdShaoL3top: "no sensors found!"09:02
L3topin that case BluebirdShao you either dont have sensors or linux cannot use em.09:04
almoxarifeBluebirdShao: http://lm-sensors.org/wiki/FAQ/Chapter2 <-- look at the instructions here, see 'run sensors..............' , did you already do that?09:04
L3topTomyLobo: I am not sure that there is an easy way to gather that info...09:04
_cronus_TomyLobo, /var/log/apt/history.log has some info09:04
wilee-nileeBluebirdShao, run sudo sensors-detect and answer yes to all09:05
almoxarifeif it was easy no one would want it, :)09:05
BluebirdShaoL3top: my cpu is intel-core i3, i think maybe i need some modules to drive its sensors09:06
wilee-nileeBluebirdShao, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto09:06
BluebirdShaobut i don't what the module it is.09:06
almoxarifeBluebirdShao: the right answer to the script is 'yes' all the way till it closes09:08
BluebirdShaoalmoxarife: I have typed "yes" to all. and it tell me to insert "max6650" to /etc/modules.09:09
BluebirdShaoalmoxarife: and i can see "max6650" when i typed "lsmod"09:10
almoxarifeBluebirdShao: alright, so what is keeping you? what is your desktop?09:11
L3topTomyLobo: might look for details in /var/lib/dpkg/status and status.old too... will require some clever grepping09:11
TomyLobohistory.log seems fine, thanks09:11
BluebirdShaoalmoxarife: but sorry, use "sensors" also display "no sensors found. Make sure you have loaded all the kernel drivers you need."09:12
DusteDTrying to install ubuntu server 12.04 from a usb harddisk to a machine with 4x3TiB disks that is setup such that 250 MiB /boot/ exists on first disk, and 3x250 MiB swap on next 3 disks, then finally rest of diskspace on each disk is for sw-raid. Partitioning and creating rootfs seems okay, machine gets ip, can ping around, then simply tells me "configuring packagemanager failed"09:12
almoxarifeBluebirdShao: first things first, have you placed what ever it asked for where it expected it?09:12
simplewi have installed kubuntu but i would like to have the ubuntu login screen, what i need to do?09:16
BluebirdShaoalmoxarife: yes, sensors-detect have do it for me. http://imagebin.org/23400909:16
TomyLobohmm the history does explain my issue either...09:17
TomyLoboi have a lenovo z580 with one of those damn clickpads09:17
almoxarifeBluebirdShao: you have rebooted since?09:17
BluebirdShaoalmoxarife: I'm using ubuntu-10.1009:17
TomyLobobasically the touchpad doubles as a giant left mouse button09:18
almoxarifeBluebirdShao: ok09:18
TomyLobo(not talking about tapping, that's different)09:18
TomyLoboand there are no right and middle mouse buttons in hardware09:18
TomyLobosynaptics is supposed to emulate those by detecting where my finger is when i click that button09:19
TomyLobobut it doesn't09:19
BluebirdShaoalmoxarife: exactlly, i've added it on Oct 28, so...09:19
TomyLobothe Option to configure that is documented but not present09:20
BluebirdShaoalmoxarife: i've reboot many times.09:20
TomyLobo'synclient SoftButtonAreas="60 0 85 0 40 60 85 0"' gives me "Unknown parameter SoftButtonAreas"09:21
almoxarifeBluebirdShao: i assume you have the headers for the kernel installed>?09:21
TomyLoboalthough the manpage lists it (albeit as "clickpad only")09:21
BluebirdShaoalmoxarife: you mean this dir: /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.35-2209:22
almoxarifeBluebirdShao: there are two header packages for the kernel, do you have both?09:23
Kartagis!xen says to disable network-manager. how am I supposed to obtain an IP via DHCP then?09:23
ubottuKartagis: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)09:23
fincanhi, I have problem with intel+amd hybrid g570 laptop catalyst install, when I install catalyst from additional drivers, black screen appears after the install both fglrx and fglrx-update. There was no problem with 12.04 and when I installed catalyst beta from amd website. Deskop opens without unity interface. Still I could not find a solution. Any idea?09:24
jeatonwow, photorec is amazing, pictures were my only concern with the corrupted filesystem, and it is finding everything09:25
llutzKartagis: configure your network using /etc/network/interfaces then09:25
vfwmeltingwax: dvd-slideshow  See:  http://dinsdalepiranha.wordpress.com/2007/10/16/how-to-make-a-video-for-youtube-with-linux/09:25
almoxarifefincan: try this on the black screen, control-alt-f8 then control-alt-f7 , see a login screen?09:25
VlanYsorry guys, not sure if it's the right place to ask this. I just wanted to know if it is acceptable to have your PC to freeze once every week, or if i should search for hardware issues. I need to make clear that i've assembled this PC following the right procedures; no hight temperatures, hight quality components and so on..09:27
BluebirdShaoalmoxarife: yes. one is "linux-headers-2.6.35-22-generic" and another is "linux-headers-2.6.35-22"09:27
fincanalmoxarife: after boot, X crash report appears and give option to backto the old settings. well thats means other virtual desktops are broken too09:27
lapionwhere did "additional drivers" go ?09:28
almoxarifeBluebirdShao: no idea then, beyond my meager brain cell now09:28
erase_guys, on my laptop is it possible to downgrade my CPU speed so that it does not heat up too much?09:28
BluebirdShaoalmoxarife: lol09:29
lapionerase use cpufreq applet in gnome-classic09:29
kushal_kumaranlapion: it's now a tab in "Software Sources"09:29
erase_lapion, thx09:29
ArchaicalGreetings..... INFIDELS!!!!09:30
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erase_i had to change to windows. my laptop with ubuntu would heat up to the point of autoshutdown09:30
lapionerase_, get your laptop cleaned (either professionally or not advised :do it yourself)09:31
lhavelundI'm having some issues with a 12.10 live session; X seems to be constantly attempted to load the noveau driver, fails, and crashes, ad infinitum. I can briefly access the tty and need to somehow kill the responsible service. Halp? :)09:32
erase_lapion, it's clean. it really a HP problem09:32
lapionerase_, what model ?09:33
erase_g6209:33
lapionpavilion ?09:33
vfwmeltingwax: Where he says "convert <filename> -resize 640x480 <newfilename>"  you can do it like this, (if it's already jpeg and you want to leave it jpeg) 'mogrify -resize 640x480 image.jpg'  Do it his way if you want to change file name and/or format, (for instance if it is xcf and you want to convert to jpg, or if it is gif and you want it to be jpg, etc.)09:33
erase_lapion, yes. it's like this since i bought it09:33
DoNoBaNHi, yesterday I add a mirror to my windows7 partition but it seems that my whole HD has become SFS type and I cant install grub209:33
frenksalve09:33
lapionerase_, did it come in a factory sealed box?09:34
jalansore-hello can help me how to master in linux command?09:34
DoNoBaNhere is my fdisk -l output, http://pastebin.com/apXZjcq409:35
lhavelundEssentially, I'm wondering which service manages X on the live session.09:35
DoNoBaN/dev/sda1 should be swap and sda2 ext409:35
MonkeyDustjalansore-  you want to learn bash commands?09:35
DoNoBaNanybody knows if there is possible to convert them but let sda3 as SFS?09:35
jalansore-yes, but in focus.09:35
MonkeyDustjalansore-  start here, ask later for more advanced https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal09:36
blackshirtsfs?09:36
erase_lapion, yes. windows reduces the cpu speed as needed... but on linux the cpu is always on full speed09:36
frenkOpenJoke / #magic / Magico|FanTasCienZa|001 http://magic-magico-fantascienza-001.xdcc.it09:36
jalansore-thx for the sugestion.09:37
vfwmeltingwax: Or if you have the whole batch of images and they are all different sizes, you can do them all at once:  mogrify -resize 640x480 *09:38
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frenk_ciao09:38
frenk_OpenJoke / #magic / Magico|FanTasCienZa|001 http://magic-magico-fantascienza-001.xdcc.it09:39
DJonesfrenk_: Please don't spam09:39
lapionerase_, http://askubuntu.com/questions/35238/cpu-frequency-scaling-in-unity09:41
lapionthanks kushal_kumaran09:42
Dinuhelp09:42
VlanYdoes 12.04 use 3.5 kernel?=09:42
jalansore-http://kline.dal.net/proxy/proxyinfo.php?dnsbl=tc.m&ip=...09:42
erase_lapion, THX09:42
lapionerase_, sometimes the dirt in in there from the factory.. and sometimes they use cheap cooling-paste..09:42
vfwDoNoBaN: Why do you need to change it?09:42
jalansore-can help me09:43
jalansore-what is this???09:43
jalansore-when i connect to a server09:43
jalansore-disconnected.09:43
lapionthis is Internet Relay Chat..09:43
vfwDoNoBaN: So you "mirrored" your HD?09:43
lapionjust ask your actual question and someone will try to help09:44
DoNoBaNvfw, I only need to fix grub209:44
vfwDoNoBaN: From one HD to another?09:44
DoNoBaNsimple I suspect that there isnt another way09:44
the_dark_knightHi, how do I restart a process immediately after it get aborted, like restarting it after reboot. I want some of my process to be allways up and running. I am talking about the gearman workers (prcesses) if anybody know gearman. Please help, I have been searching for it for a long time and I have lost hope.09:44
DoNoBaNI only want to mirror my win7 partition09:44
DoNoBaN/dev/sda3, but seems that win7 mirrored the whole hd09:44
vfwDoNoBaN: What exactly are you doing?09:44
jribthe_dark_knight: are you using upstart to manage it?09:44
vfwNoOova: Is mirroring like cloning?09:45
Slartthe_dark_knight: can't you run some kind of watchdog? there has to be existing solutions for this in the repos, it's not like it's an uncommon situation09:45
jalansore-when i try connect a server, i get this message : http://kline.dal.net/proxy/proxyinfo.php?dnsbl=tc.m&ip=.., what is that and how to repair??09:45
vfwDoNoBaN: What software did you use to "mirror" the HD?09:45
DoNoBaNvfw, I do all the process from win7. I went to disk manager, and on win7 parttion select add mirror,09:45
DoNoBaNvfw, win 7 disk manager :/09:46
the_dark_knightjrib: I don't know upstart. Is it some program?09:46
jribthe_dark_knight: upstart is ubunut's init daemon09:46
the_dark_knightSlart: by "watchdog" I think you mean a daemon. But how do I do that?09:46
jribubuntu*09:46
vfwDoNoBaN: What is the end goal?09:47
jribthe_dark_knight: how do you start this gearman software?09:47
vfwDoNoBaN: What exactly are you trying to do?09:47
the_dark_knightjrib: but it will be only for the reboot condition. what for the fail/abort09:47
vfwDoNoBaN: Or; What exactly were you trying to do from the start?09:47
Slartthe_dark_knight: afaik watchdog is what you call a system like the one you described.. this thread from stackoverflow might be useful http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9072879/how-to-use-linux-software-watchdog09:47
the_dark_knightjrib: you have to install gearmand first and start the gearmand daemon like gearmand -d09:48
jribthe_dark_knight: upstart provides facilities to respawn processes (see "respawn" in the upstart cookbook)09:48
DoNoBaNvfw, I use win7 for some things with a lot of HD usage. So I want to try some raid for improve read speed09:48
the_dark_knightSlart: thanks looking into it09:48
jalansore-what shell command to know hardware specification?09:48
the_dark_knightjrib: Started reading respawn and upstart hold on.09:49
Slartjalansore-: lshw09:49
vfwDoNoBaN: Ask the folks on #windows     /join #windows09:49
Slartjalansore-: you might want to pipe the output to a file or use use "more" or "most"09:50
DINESH_hi09:50
DoNoBaNvfw, ok probably they have more information about SFS and dynamic partitions, lets go09:50
DINESH_DINESH_09:51
jribthe_dark_knight: anyway, the other options I know about are daemontools and just using a "while true; do COMMAND; done" loop.  upstart is probably the "nicest" way I know about09:51
ddsasdsuiqjust try words09:51
Slartthe_dark_knight: this one looks promising as well.. good explanation of how it works as well http://blog.eracc.com/2010/05/08/linux-monitor-a-service-with-a-watchdog-script/09:51
riqdiizhi09:52
the_dark_knightjrib: started readin the man page for upstart and it looks goood09:52
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jribthe_dark_knight: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/09:52
bios_hI! how to install the open ati drivers?09:52
the_dark_knightSlart: thanks09:52
riqdiizCan Ubuntu be repaired and avoid a fresh install?09:53
jribriqdiiz: depends on what's wrong09:54
BluebirdShaoalmoxarife: I've fixed it. lol09:56
BluebirdShaoalmoxarife: thanks your patience.09:56
riqdiizi accidentally deleted usr  folder and i am worried  that my sys won't boot if i shut it down. how will i replace it?09:58
Slart!undelete | riqdiiz09:59
ubotturiqdiiz: Some tools to recover lost data are listed and explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery - Recovering deleted files on !ext3 filesystems can be virtually impossible, although methods that might work is some cases are described at at http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/undelete_ext3.html and http://projects.izzysoft.de/trac/ext3undel09:59
jribriqdiiz: you should reinstall probably...09:59
Slartriqdiiz: but without /usr it might be hard to fix the system09:59
riqdiizslart the trash was emptied :-(10:00
enavhello, im running a LAMP server on my 12.04 desktop, i changed the apache execution user and group to my user and group to avoid any ownership problems, but now when i try to upload database files to phpmyadmin it wont let me do it, changed back the original apache and group values and now it let me upload db files again.... so how can i have apache running  under my name and group and be able to upload db files to phpmyadmin... ??? thanks10:00
Slartriqdiiz: if you check the links ubottu sent you you'll find that it mentions some tools that are a bit more advanced than the trash can =)10:01
llutzenav: you don't want to run apache as your user, change it back, add yourself to the www-data group to avoid issues10:01
Slartriqdiiz: but most likely you're looking at a reinstall.. some of the files recovered might be damaged without you knowing about it resulting in some very weird behaviour in the future10:02
riqdiizjust a minute .....10:02
enavi know it bring security problems but i raised a firewall, i need this to be like this to be able to edit my web files right away with no problems at all10:02
enavllutz: ^10:02
llutzenav: a "firewall" won't help you10:02
enavhmmm10:03
rocks3hi does anyone know if catalyst legacy has been updated to work with xorg 13, or if it will ever be updated?10:03
the_dark_knightjrib: Slart, I think the upstart or init is for the reboots and respawn is to restart after every abort. Also I don't have /etc/inittab what do I need for this?10:04
aiFrantzenav : just a question, where did you place the web root folder? you just mentioned about "be able to edit my web files right away with no problem".10:04
the_dark_knightjrib: Slart, respawn looks promising10:04
jribthe_dark_knight: "respawn" is something you can add to an init job configuration.  I don't know why you are looking for /etc/inittab10:04
jribs/init/upstart init10:05
the_dark_knightjrib: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9072879/how-to-use-linux-software-watchdog this link was given to me by Slart . I was referring to it from the discussion on this links10:06
jribthe_dark_knight: ubuntu uses upstart, read the upstart docs10:06
Slartthe_dark_knight: I would go with the "official way" ie the stuff jrib told you about.. the watchdog script will take more work and might need customization (as you noticed with inittab)10:07
jribthe_dark_knight: you can ask the #upstart guys if upstart will respect the "respawn" lines in /etc/inittab but I doubt it10:08
a_yo10:08
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jribthe_dark_knight: thus why I said you would need to create an upstart job and include "respawn" in it.  See the upstart cookbook for examples of this10:08
Archaicali would agree with jrib btw, sorry to just jump in there10:09
Archaicali was just working on something similiar with a teamspeak 3 job i was working on.10:09
the_dark_knightSlart: yes the watchdog looks more of a customize way10:09
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MestreLionafter uploading a source package to my own PPA, how long does it take to show up in launchpad? dput showed no errors, but its been almost an hour and still no sign of the pcakage in my ppa10:15
Archaicaldepends i would think on the domain service launchpad uses and how often they refresh their alias's10:15
Archaicalshouldn't be very long though, not more than an hour or two.10:15
Archaical(that was a bit of an educated guess btw)10:16
Archaicalno personal experience on launchpad.10:16
riqdiizubottu that was great.10:17
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Archaicaland so polite too. =D10:19
riqdiizwhat is a bot?10:19
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sidgwickhello. I got "Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual" after i installed Nvidia's Graphcard driver, and i can't run any OpenGL program. what should i do ?10:21
riqdiizok jrib thanks.10:21
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jalansore-can help me how to login in postgresql first time?10:23
jalansore-on ubuntu 10.0410:24
sidgwickhello. I got "Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual" after i installed Nvidia's Graphcard driver, and i can't run any OpenGL program. what should i do ?10:25
Archaicalanyone have any experience and subsequently some tips as to forcing winbind to Capitalize names?10:26
Dan-EIf I put auto hide the tool bar on 12.10 it won't come back out. Any help?10:27
Kartagiscan I create a logical volume on an existing physical disk?10:35
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vfwIs there a way to change filesystem IDs in a non-destructive way?10:36
_cronus_vfw, do you mean partition's system id? if so it is a non-destructive operation by itself. if you don't mind me asking, why would you want to?10:42
Kartagiscan I create a logical volume on an existing physical disk?10:42
Kartagisor would that wreck it?10:42
vfw_cronus_: A friend of mine has used Disk Manager in Win7 to try and mirror his Win7 partition to another drive, but in the process it changed the filesystem IDs.  See:  http://pastebin.com/apXZjcq410:45
vfw_cronus_: http://www.mlincek.com/image.axd?picture=image_thumb_2.png   (Image of Disk Manager in the process.)10:46
vfw_cronus_: And here is report from bootinfoscript    http://pastebin.com/jf9TCxN810:46
vfw_cronus_: So he can just use fdisk to change it back. Right?10:47
Gustavushello can anyone answer me some question?10:47
newbodhiCodeweavers Crossover Office 11 is free today, you can get your copy from their website :)10:48
_cronus_vfw, sure, but try to mount it first. maybe microsoft's mirror is not 1-to-1 copies of the partition.10:49
vfw_cronus_: he did.  He used a Ubuntu live CD and verfiied that he can mount and read the data.10:50
DaDaDOSPromptwhat is creating these <hostname>.local aliases that seem to work on my 192.168 subnet?10:50
_cronus_vfw, great. just change the id then.10:50
vfwDoNoBaN: _cronus_ just confirmed my notion that you only need to use fdisk to change the fileystem IDs back.10:52
vfw"_cronus_> vfw, do you mean partition's system id? if so it is a non-destructive operation by itself."10:52
DoNoBaNuhM10:53
vfwDoNoBaN: You know how to use fdisk?10:53
DoNoBaNcould I do the same with cfdisk?10:54
fincanhi, I have problem with intel+amd hybrid g570 laptop catalyst install on ubuntu 12.10 64bit, when I install catalyst from additional drivers, black screen appears after the install both fglrx and fglrx-update. There was no problem with 12.04 and when I installed catalyst beta from amd website. Deskop opens without unity interface. Still I could not find a solution. Any idea?10:54
vfwDoNoBaN: I suppose. (I just always use fdisk)10:55
vfwDoNoBaN: But I'm sure cfdisk will do.10:55
humeanyone having suggestions for a software with which I can show streaming video from a camcorder, connected with HDMI, and also record video?10:56
Gustavusdoes anyone know how can i find the software i installed from software centre but i can't find it .10:56
vfwDoNoBaN: Just change sda1 to type 82,  change sda2 to 83,   change sda3 to ntfs10:56
vfwI could talk you through with fdisk but if you know cfdisk just go on and do it.10:57
DoNoBaNvfw, I want to try the raid1 improvement10:58
DoNoBaNIm going to restore windows bootloader and test it10:59
bubu\ahi guys, can anyone tell me why - smbmount //10.29.39.23/share /mnt/hd2/share -o user=samba,pass=blablabla,gid=ubuntu,uid=ubuntu mounts the drive corrently as ubuntu user on one server and mounts as root on another server....?10:59
vfwDoNoBaN: NTFS is 86 or 8710:59
DoNoBaNif I let sda3 as it is, should mirroring still working?10:59
iveir!pass11:03
ubottuForgot your password? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword What's the root password? See !sudo. Don't see *** in password prompts? That's normal. Sudo doesn't ask for your password? It remembers you for several minutes. Please use strong passwords, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/StrongPasswords11:03
DoNoBaNvfw, Im going to try first to boot with some live CD with LDM support enabled11:04
temphello guys, is there a way to restore the boot loader after it has been accidentally formatted?11:04
vfwDoNoBaN: I think all you need to do is change the partition types back to what they once were.11:04
DoNoBaNsee here vfw http://grub-ldm.sourceforge.net/11:04
vfwDoNoBaN: You can't boot Windows from sda3 anyway.11:04
vfwDoNoBaN: You'r only option is to change the filesystem IDs back to what they were.11:05
zAo^temp, boot a livecd and do a restore of grub (in the boot options I think)11:05
vfwzAo^: Is that for us?11:05
tempzAo^: thanks11:05
zAo^temp, otherwise; choose "boot installed system" and google for "reinstall grub"11:06
vfwDoNoBaN: How the heck were you ever booting Win7 from sda3 in the first place?  (The answer is you can't.)11:06
glaciHello All, I have problems with burning DVDs (ubi 10.04). I have tried k3b, Braseiro and GnomeBaker, in each cases the DVD disk remained empty after the burning. There was not any warning appeared at the burning software. My hardware worked properly in case of Win7+poweriso. Do anyone has any suggestion?11:07
vfwglaci: What is ubi?11:07
vfwwubi?11:07
glaciubuntu11:07
tempzAo^: OK; would try that opiton also. Thanks11:08
vfwglaci: I would guess operator error. (There are only 2 options, hardware or operator, so if the hardware is good it must be you.:)11:08
DoNoBaNvfw,  thanks for the help11:08
vfwDoNoBaN: NP11:09
DoNoBaNIm gonna try to boot windows and test11:09
vfwglaci: Are you getting errors?11:09
vfwDoNoBaN: How will you boot windows?11:09
DoNoBaNif results arent important I will undo the types with fdisk11:09
DoNoBaNbooting with a win cd and doing a repair11:09
glacivfW: unfortunately i'm not11:09
vfwDoNoBaN: Oh, ok11:09
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DoNoBaNI only want to know if the improvement is relevant11:10
vfwDoNoBaN: Just remember, it was MS Windows that got you into the situation you're in now, so....11:10
DoNoBaNif it is I will try to do another way like linux and windwos complety separated11:10
DoNoBaNif not I will undo the mirror11:10
vfwglaci: Run k3b or one of the others from a terminal and see if you see errors.11:10
DoNoBaNIm searching performance more than security11:10
DoNoBaNyes vfw , but sadly I need windows for work :/11:11
glacivfw: great idea thank you11:11
vfwDoNoBaN: Ok, well come back if you have any questions about Ubuntu/Linux11:11
svsplI have a problem with booting Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS after kernel upgrade11:11
DoNoBaNhehe, ty very much11:11
DoNoBaNsee you11:11
vfwsvspl: What does it do?11:12
svspleverything works fine until it says * Starting to configure network device [ OK ] and then it hangs, I waited an hour and nothing11:12
Chotaz`Hello everyone I'm having some problems with SSH authentication through keys. First I'd like to know if requiring key authentication will make anyone without a key unable to connect. Furthermore, I'm having problems with a Mac connecting to my Ubuntu Desktop Edition shell, I generated a key on the mac machine using "ssh-keygen -t dsa"  and moved it to the shell's "$HOME/.ssh/" directory and then "sudo cat keyfile.pub >> authenticate11:12
vfwsvspl: Have you tried the failsafe mode?11:12
svsplit works only on 3.2.0-31-generic, doesn't work on 3.2.0-32-generic, 3.2.0-33-generic and 3.2.32 from kernel.org11:13
svsplyes, same thing on failsafe11:13
vfwsvspl: Then just use the 3.2.0-31-generic kernel11:13
ak5hi, can i easily install ubuntu server 12.04 lts on usb key using dd?11:13
Chotaz`to my server I get this : Diogo-Chotass-MacBook-Pro:~ diogochotas$ ssh -pxxxx hostname The authenticity of host '[hostname]:xxxx ([ipaddress]:xxxx)' can't be established. RSA key fingerprint is blahblahblah. Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)? yes Warning: Permanently added 'hostname' to the list of known hosts. Permission denied (publickey).11:14
vfwak5: no11:14
anashui11:15
anashi Allllllll11:15
svsplvfw, I'm using it right now but doesn't solve my problem, I need to compile my own kernel but nothing except 3.2.0-31 doesn't work11:15
anashowz u allllllll11:15
vfwak5: Are you wanting to transfer the install CD to a USB thumb drive?  You can do it, but not just by dd'ing the image from one to the other.11:16
MonkeyDustChotaz`  some 85 people in #openssh, ask there11:16
nopfChotaz`: if you *require* keys, you cannot login *without*. what did you expext :)11:16
dapikkHi, Using Ubuntu Server 12.10 and problem with ssh -> when trying to /usr/bin/ssh -o TCPKeepAlive=no -o ServerAliveInterval=15 -fN4gL5671:SAPDEV0511:5666 -gL19926:SAPDEV0511:22 saptst - I get in and after a sec I get Write failed:broken pipe (auth is thru pub keys and other side I see only client disconnected - no auth problems...)11:16
Chotaz`nopf: I created a key on the Mac computer(client) and added it to the server's ~/.ssh/ directory and cat it's content into authenticated_keys file11:17
nopfChotaz`: you mean authorized_keys?11:17
Chotaz`nopf: yes, that.11:17
vfwak5:   http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/11:17
nopfChotaz`: did you look into the servers auth.log ?11:18
vfwsvspl: They are all generic kernels?11:18
Chotaz`nopf: actually, I didn't11:18
Chotaz`nopf: first time messing with ssh shells, just wanted to make sure I got my security right11:19
vfwsvspl: You might try changing the network preferences, (it hangs there right).  Change to static IP.11:20
svsplvfw, I'll try that11:21
dapikkany ideas what I could try?11:21
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nopfChotaz`: you might want to check the permission also. .ssh <- the dir should be 700, which it often is not if you created it yourself instead of letting keygen do it11:22
vfwsvspl: I suppose also be a problem with networkManager, but would try static IP first, or just dissable networking.11:23
nopfdapikk: either my client displays rubbish or your paste is strange. what are thow -f and -g? well, whatever, have you tried without all those forwardings and -o option, just a straight ssh saptst?11:25
dapikk@nopf - hi, same problem when I just SSH to saptst: Last login: Wed Oct 31 02:22:07 2012 from XXX.XXX.XX.xxx saptst:~ # Write failed: Broken pipe11:27
dapikknopf - eg I got in and after a sec i got broken pipe11:27
nopfdapikk: and you don't have access to the server logs?11:28
dapikknopf - I have - they just show that client is authenticated , authentication ok, client is disconnected11:29
dapikknopf - Im connecting from debian thru ubuntu to redhat machines - if that info helps somehow11:30
almoxarifedapikk: does it give you time to start 'top' ?11:30
nopfdapikk: checked the shell in the /etc/passwd? can you connect from any other machine?11:30
Chotaz`nopf: thanks for the tip mate, I'll check it as soon as I get home11:30
dapikkalmoxarife - no11:31
Chotaz`nopf: as I can't remember if I created the directory on my own or not11:31
dapikknopf - on which machine?11:31
Chotaz`Chotaz`Work11:32
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nopfdapikk: where a shell should be started when you login :) so the saptst11:32
dapikknopf - also that saptst is on another machine - first I create tunnel to my ubuntu and bring port 22 to localmachine:  -gL19940:XXX.XXX.XXX.XX:22 XXX.XXX.XXX.XX11:33
dapikknopf - yes I can connect straight from ubuntu - but when I try to create tunnel from localmachine thru ubuntu to saptst then it fails... :S11:35
nopfdapikk: i don't really get that. shouldn't that be -L 19940:saptst:22? and then ssh localhost -p 19940 ??11:36
lissyxHello11:37
lissyxno one experiencing high cpu usage spike of Xorg process while running gnome-terminal ?11:37
dapikknopf - yes that ssh localhost is greated afterwards by nagios monitoring program11:37
benitohi11:38
dapikknopf - but first I need tunnels to other machines aswell11:38
dapikknopf - also earlier we had debian running as midway machine and those tunnels worked - as debian crashed and we wanted proper server - we installed ubuntu and after that tunnels do not work :S11:39
bubu\ahi guys, can anyone tell me why - smbmount //10.29.39.23/share /mnt/hd2/share -o user=samba,pass=blablabla,gid=ubuntu,uid=ubuntu mounts the drive corrently as ubuntu user on one server and mounts as root on another server....?11:40
saviohi11:41
OprrIn what folder I can find the PHP installation?11:41
jribOprr: why?11:41
savio0prr us whereis cmd11:41
shirishhi guys i have a question with ubuntu 12.10 boot11:42
shirishafter upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10 my ubuntu boots to tty login first then loads desktop11:42
shirishthat behaviour was not there in 12.0411:43
shirishis there any way to boot directly to desktop instead tty11:43
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FloodBot1sexc_thong: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.11:43
Oprrjrib, I have wordpress Installed in my pc, and I want install some plugins and the solution is edit the php.ini file..11:43
savioshirish, lightdm login manager is not loaded on boot11:44
OprrI don't know if this file exist..11:44
savioOprr, use whereis php11:44
shirish@savio -- .. well i'm using unity ..not lightdm11:44
Kartagis!xen11:45
ubottuXEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xen11:45
shirishcan you explain why it was working fine in 12.0411:45
saviounity uses lightdm for graphical login and gnome use gdm login manager11:45
Oprrsavio, thanks11:45
jribOprr: I suggest you read /usr/share/doc/wordpress* (especially if there is a README.Debian).  There may be a special way to install those things because of the packaging.  However, if you want to find php.ini, just use locate11:46
shirishbut mine boots to tty login and shows the login prompt for few seconds then automatically loads gui11:46
Oprrjrib, thanks ;)..11:46
shirishhow can i disable tty login prompt step .. this takes few seconds in between11:47
AdvoWork`i'm trying to improve security, and on my main router i have ssh port forwarded to one of my servers. This is therefore potentially available to the outside world. If i turn it off, i cant ssh into the internal servers, is there any way around this?11:47
MuelliAdvoWork`: I don't fully understand your point but maybe you're looking for "Port Knocking".11:49
savioshirish, you get tty login prompt then after few sec you get gui for login11:49
Oprrjrib, I've forgot the editor by console for edit the file php.ini11:49
shirish@savio yes11:50
shirishgui means full desktop - i set it up as auto login11:50
almoxarifeAdvoWork`: actually there is, sort of, tunnel via dns protocol , :)11:50
savioshirish, then i think it's normal11:52
AdvoWork`basically, i can ssh in from home to the server that is setup via port forwarding, but anyone that gets the ip of our server can port scan, and see ssh is open, then attempt to ssh in if you get me11:53
savio!updatedb11:53
Oprrsavio11:54
heroandtn3!info11:54
icerootAdvoWork`: and because of that strong passwords are a good way11:54
shirishsavio, that behaviour was never there in 12.04 .. i believe it's only introduced in 12.1011:54
bubu\aAdvoWork`, you have a few options, best is to use RSA keys to login via SSH11:55
Oprrwhat command can I use for edit some file by console? example: php.ini11:55
bubu\athat way brute force wont work11:55
almoxarifeAdvoWork`: you can't get around having to open a port to within the home-net at the router11:55
bubu\adissalow password auth11:55
icerootOprr: nanno filename11:55
bubu\achange the default port ssh listens on from 22 to a higher port so it doesnt get scanned so much11:55
savioshirish, 12.10 is still in development 12.04 it tag LTS11:55
icerootOprr: or vi filename if you know how to use vi11:55
DJonesAdvoWork`: One suggestion is to use a non standard port to ssh instead of port 2211:55
savioOprr, use nano11:56
icerootsavio: 12.10 is not in development anymore11:56
bubu\aor use something which bans IP's that bruteforce the SSH too many times11:56
icerootsavio: just security fixes like all other releases11:56
savioiceroot, sorry but still its not have LTS tag11:56
shirishbut i must say 12.10 boot is way slower than 12.0411:56
icerootsavio: 12.10 will never be LTS11:56
savioiceroot, why?11:57
icerootsavio: 8.04, 10.04, 12.04, 14.04 are lts11:57
almoxarife12.10 is lts11:57
iceroot!lts | savio11:57
ubottusavio: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server; with the exception of 12.04 (Precise Pangolin), which will be supported for 5 years on the desktop. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Precise (Precise Pangolin 12.04)11:57
icerootalmoxarife: 12.10 is NOT lts11:57
shirish12.04 is lts .. not 12.1011:57
icerootalmoxarife: and 12.10 will never be lts11:57
savioiceroot, ohhhhh thanks11:58
nowayHi. Is it possible to view/change iptables of a system by accessing this system through a live cd / rescue system? The command 'ip route show table ...' only refers to the system ofthe live cd / rescue system, doesn't it?11:59
icerootnoway: with chroot yes, or by editing the iptables files directly when you have access to the hd11:59
nowayi have access to the hd, but i am not able to find the right files...12:00
savioi think before trying to install any open source os wait for months after its release So any issues with it can be fixed within that time period12:00
icerootsavio: if you want a stable system use ubuntu 12.04 LTS12:01
savioiceroot, i know i'm suggesting it to shirish12:01
icerootsavio: it has nothing to do with open source and closed source. if you install windows 8 now you will be facing bugs too which will be fixed in the next time12:01
icerootsavio: then put the name infront of the line :)12:01
OsariusWhat does this mean and how can I fix it?12:02
Osariusyacy@vks12378:~/yacy$ firefox12:02
Osarius(firefox:4607): GConf-WARNING **: Client failed to connect to the D-BUS daemon:12:02
OsariusFailed to fork() to call //bin/dbus-launch: Cannot allocate memory12:02
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savioiceroot, get it won't happen next time :)12:02
nowayiceroot: i will try chroot, but can you tell me, where i can find the iptables files?12:03
Noriandirhi. does any of you knows how to decompress a 230gb dd file from a gz? from the terminal?12:03
ak5I have a "amd64" version of ubuntu server 12.04 - this works onintel x86_64 architecture too, right?12:03
almoxarifeak5: right12:04
ak5almoxarife: thanks12:04
icerootnoway: sorry dont know which file iptables is using12:05
savionoway, use locate12:05
llutzNoriandir: gunzip foo.gz -dc | dd of=/dev/sdXY bs=4k12:06
nowayi already did and i think i viewed every file with iptables in it but maybe i missed something.12:06
nowaysavio, i mean with 'iptables' in its filename12:07
icerootnoway: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/location-of-iptables-config-file-10037/12:07
icerootnoway: maybe that is usefull12:07
icerootnoway: dont know if it is still using that files12:08
Noriandirllutz, that will extract the file to the root of the /dev/sdX partition?12:08
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Noriandirllutz, or will it rewrite the partition?12:08
llutzNoriandir: that will rewrite the partition12:08
savioiceroot, for current version man page will be helpful12:08
llutzNoriandir: if it is an disk-image use of=/dev/sdX12:09
Noriandirllutz, i just want to decompress the file in order to mount it and recover some specific folder12:09
llutzNoriandir: gunzip foo.gz    then12:09
Noriandirllutz, already tried it. got the error: file too large12:09
llutzNoriandir: make sure to have enough space on the filesystem left12:10
NoriandirI have 430gb for a 230gb file, so no problem there12:10
llutz430 - 230 - size of the .gz file12:10
nowayiceroot, thanks a lot! i guess chroot will be the best way for now12:11
Noriandirllutz, gz file is 4gb12:11
icerootnoway: think so too12:11
llutzNoriandir: what filesystem?12:11
Noriandirllutz, and the 430 is already the free space reported by nautilus12:11
llutzNoriandir: on the drive, not the image12:11
icerootsavio: that info is missing in the manpage or where did you find it?12:12
Noriandirllutz, good question... its a external drive...12:12
llutzNoriandir: sounds as vfat with 4gb filesizelimt12:12
llutzlimit12:12
Noriandirllutz, i was thinking the same thing =/12:12
llutzNoriandir: no chance then12:12
HarisI have a PXE setup on CentOS 5.8. Is there a tutorial, article or doc to have ubuntu setup on it for network install ?12:12
lJ6ilHello, after an installation of Xubuntu, when i connect an USB strick, there's no automount. Moreover, when i mount it with sudo mount, it's mounted in read-only12:12
HarisI have cobbler, but I believe cobbler doesn't support ubuntu12:13
lJ6ilntfs-3g and dosfstools are already installed12:13
Noriandirllutz, yea, fdisk -l says its a fat32 disk =/12:13
Harisguys ?12:15
ak5where can I get torrents of ubuntu server versions?12:21
iceroot!torrents | ak512:22
ubottuak5: Quantal can be torrented from http://torrent.ubuntu.com/simple/quantal/desktop/ubuntu-12.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent or http://torrent.ubuntu.com/simple/quantal/server/ubuntu-12.10-server-amd64.iso.torrent depending on your needs. Other flavors can be found at http://torrent.ubuntu.com:696912:22
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ak5iceroot: thy12:24
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BluesKajHi all12:26
ak5iceroot: much better, great fire wall of china keeps  killing my dl after ~30 mb12:26
nikolamhi, does anyone knows how to make Firestarter work again right on 12.04 LTS 64bit?12:26
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OrochikakuHi can someone help me out?12:31
ak5!ask | Orochikaku12:31
ubottuOrochikaku: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience12:31
nimocan you just plug in a ssd drive in your laptop and run ubuntu on it?12:32
llutznimo: basically yes, just make sure to have your partitions aligned properly12:34
Orochikaku>I have an external hardrive (500GB)12:34
Orochikaku>I have a live usb ready to install12:34
Orochikaku>Don't know what partitions to setup.12:34
Orochikaku>Google can't help :-(12:34
FloodBot1Orochikaku: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.12:34
nimollutz,  no drivers needed for features ?12:35
nikolamSkype video (webcam in skype) does not work by default on Ubuntu (64bit here) . Skype needs: env LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so skype   in the shortcut12:35
llutznimo: no12:35
nikolamor needs shell script: #!/bin/bash12:35
nikolamExec=env LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libv4l/v4l1compat.so /usr/bin/skype  renamed and run from it.12:35
nikolamfor 64-bit12:35
nikolamand #!/bin/bash12:36
nikolamLD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so /usr/bin/skype   for 32-bit12:36
nikolamto have working Webcam in Skype12:36
OrochikakuErm, so can anyone help me out? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1320638/12:36
MailmanI updated my graphics drivers yesterday to fix a screen brightness problem, but now my laptop won't wake from sleep. I'm on an Acer Aspire One running Kubuntu.12:37
icerootOrochikaku: i dont see a real question12:37
nikolamOrochikaku, that pastebin should be said here :)12:37
icerootOrochikaku: we dont know what you want to do with the system12:37
icerootOrochikaku: 500gb for ubuntu only? then use the default from the installer12:37
nikolamOrochikaku, you want to install ubuntu on that external USB drive?12:37
nikolamI suggest you make separate Linux and separate NTFS partition for data exchange with other platforms.12:38
ak5nikolam: only necessary if he wants to dual boot12:38
Orochikakuiceroot, well when I try install ubuntu it says you don't have a boot drive selected and asks me to setup partitions, bieng this is the first time I have ever mingled out of NFTS its scaring me, online guides tell me I need a SWAP (IDK what that is either).12:38
OrochikakuNTFS12:39
Orochikaku*12:39
ak5Orochikaku: how much memory do you have and is this a laptop?12:39
ak5Orochikaku: I am assuming you want to install a desktop?12:39
nikolamOrochikaku, swap is set up by itself during install, Or jou just make separate partition for it and tell setup to use it as swap.12:39
Orochikakuak5, no, no a external hardrive.12:39
rk0rTurn it off and leave it. :)12:40
ak5Orochikaku: ok, so you want to install an operating system on an external drive?12:40
Orochikakuyes12:40
ak5Orochikaku: in this case, no need for a swap partition12:40
nikolamOrochikaku, I would actually disconnect internal drive during install, just to make sure everything ends up on USB HDD12:40
ak5if you really need to later on you can use a swapfile12:40
ak5unless you want to save your state12:41
Orochikakuyou know what I'll bootub into the Live usb and use the trial and we can continue, brb12:41
nikolamOrochikaku, I suggest against using swapfile, but making swap partition during install12:41
ak5which really depends on what you want to do :D12:41
nikolamIt is faster12:41
OrochikakuOk, I'll reboot into Ubuntu, BRB.12:41
nikolamOrochikaku, it is not a trial, it is fully commercial and you can legaly use it forewer12:42
llutznikolam: speed differences partition/file on USB are marginal12:42
sandiegohi12:42
llutzboth are slow as hell12:42
dr_willisi do full installs to external usb all the time. i tend to set them to use a swap partion on an internal hd i setup ages ago12:42
ak5llutz: there you go. I really don't see the need for swap unless you have less than 4gb memory and/or want to save the state of your desktop (=hibernate)12:43
nikolamllutz, Not only speed. with partition, that portion of disk is always for that purpose etc.12:43
llutznikolam: so is a swapfile12:43
nikolamLinux needs to have swap. Even few MB12:43
ak5:P12:43
dr_willisbut i dont move the usb from one pc to another.12:43
ak5nikolam: this is not true12:43
nikolamllutz, I suggest against swapfile if possible. Multiple Linux version installs can use same swap partition.12:43
dr_willisgot no swap at  all on this box12:44
whi5keynikolam I have no swap. :P12:44
meegoooi connect to my wireless model, but it does't access the internet12:44
sandiegois that true that its becoming so hard to meet some people from here12:44
gogetadr_willis: i go zram heh12:44
meegoooin windows it's ok12:44
sandiegosome girls12:44
ak5gogeta: wtf is zram12:44
nikolamdr_willis, that does not mean you won't get to a situatuon when you wil lneed it.12:44
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llutznikolam: i suggest against swappartition, files are easier? so what? :) different users, different opinons12:44
meegoooit's totally weired ?!12:44
gogetaak5: uses ram swap and memery compression12:44
ak5gogeta: sounds cpu intensive12:45
nikolamSystem does not use swap space unless needed, anyway, to you loose nothing, but swap space and have a piece of mind for memory hungry apps.12:45
nikolamllutz, files are LAME :)12:45
gogetaak5: nope works awsome on my netbook12:45
gogetaak5: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZRam12:45
meegooocan anybody help12:45
ak5gogeta: thanks I'll check it ou12:46
nikolamA said multiple different linux installs can use same Swap partition. It cost less if reused :)12:46
ak5nikolam: he was askin how to format a drive, do you really think he's going to install multiple linuces?12:46
dr_willisseen guides on setting up windows and linux to use the same swap area... years ago when hd space was costly12:47
NambrokHi12:47
llutznikolam: you are right if swap-partition already exists, but only then12:47
Nambrokdisconnect12:47
nikolamak5, it is not the poit, point is that he will end up with more usabel disk partition layout if folowing decent recommendations.12:47
OrochikakuOk, I'm back.12:47
Orochikakuiceroot: is there anyway I could setup screen sharing?12:47
nikolamllutz, the he makes one, and it exists :)12:47
nikolamsince it is fresh install12:47
llutznikolam: pointless on usb12:48
nikolamAlso Files could ged fragmented12:48
ak5llutz: agreed12:48
sandiegoany hot girl wanna have a talk12:48
llutznikolam: have you ever used a swapfile or do you even know how this works/is setup?12:48
nikolamllutz, pointless or not, I look at that same way as any drive, If it is on USB3, then it is same speed also12:48
Orochikakuak5: do you know how to setup a screen share so I can show you what i'm talking about.12:49
nikolamyes, I used to use swapfile when using Knoppix and booting from DVD :)12:49
gogetanikolam: 4b or more its totaly pointless12:49
ak5Orochikaku: depends where you are12:49
gogetagb12:49
OrochikakuPhysically ak5 ?12:49
josy1982hello?12:49
nikolamgogeta, Pointless or not, you never know what apps people will use and to what extent use RAM.12:49
ak5yes and in your install process as well12:49
ak5or what you are running12:49
ak5I am in china, so any kind of screen sharing will take forever12:50
nikolamI had pretty muc apps memoy leaks during my ubuntu history, when Swap saved the day.12:50
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gogetanikolam: i can be a hardcore gamer and not need it12:50
Orochikaku12.10 live usb.12:50
Orochikakuhmm12:50
OrochikakuI'm in Malaysia, not too far away.12:50
OrochikakuI can ping China in in under 20.12:50
ak5ok12:50
josy1982hello?12:51
nikolamgogeta, Hardcore gamers don't use Ubuntu, unless you set up PCI-e Graphics card sharing for VM, using Xen and suported CPU/Mobo :)12:51
sandiegoany girls from Jordan?12:51
ak5I don't use ubuntu apart from servers, does it have built in vnc or something?12:51
Orochikakuak5: so how would I go about setting that up?12:51
ak5Orochikaku: just pastebin the output of some commands and it'll be faster, I promise12:51
Orochikakuak5: fuck it. Screenshots.12:51
OrochikakuF2 works during install right?12:51
ak5OrochikaI'm guessing yes12:52
gogetanikolam: point is no apps use that mutch ram yet12:52
nikolamOrochikaku, you can install apps from Synaptic/software center even while runing from Live cd.12:52
ak5Orochikaku: I'm guessing yes12:52
gogetanikolam: my system with 8gb has no use for it12:52
ak5Orochikaku: may I suggest just using the defaults (make sure you are pointing at the right drive though)12:52
nikolamgogeta, point is that your case is in minority and newer apps will proove different as always. Point is system needs a bit swap. Check documentation for best practices.12:52
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nikolamak5, I suggest reading some instllation manuals on help.ubuntu.com12:53
gogetanikolam: tel that to my rock solid netbook with 1gb of ram12:53
An_Ony_MooseI'm using ubuntu with a gnome-shell desktop. When I try to lock the screen, nothing happens and this appears in .xsession-errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1320668/ - Can anyone help?12:53
sandiegoany palestinian girls here?12:53
nikolamgogeta, notebooks have no souls :)12:53
ak5nikolam: saying that all installations need swap is dead wrong, sorry. Many of my servers have no use for swap for example12:53
llutzsandiego: this is technical support, you are wrong here12:53
nikolamak5, then their admins are LAME. As previously stated. :)12:54
ak5swap on usb install seems outrageous to me, but there are use cases for that as well12:54
sandiegocan u guid me plz where to go12:54
zAo^lol12:54
nikolamak5, USB3 is as fast as SATA, why you do not understand it is no difference it is on USB?12:54
sandiegoguide*12:54
gogetanikolam: swap was done becouse back in the day ram was expensiv and people used it rather then get more memery12:54
llutzsandiego: ask in #freenode12:55
ak5nikolam: it is not about the speed. You just don't need it.12:55
ak5nikolam: gogeta is right12:55
sandiegothanks12:55
ankur Pressing the windows button in the last version of lubuntu i.e. 12.04 used to bring the lxde menu, but it doesn't happen in 12.10. Any solution? Also my printer (HP Deskjet F2235) is not working. The error log is here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1320634/12:55
nikolamgogeta, YES. And during my usage ubunut carrier I had multiple situations where memory usage unexpectedly rise to the roof, overlaping to swap, that saved my day.12:55
TimZehtagreetings. i am experiencing a problem with logrotate. i symlinked a log directory for readability (directory is IP, I created hostname symlink). now logrotate creates empty files :(12:55
gogetanikolam: get more memery12:56
ak5gogeta: :)12:56
nikolamI use linux since 1996, I guess experience counts a bit :)12:56
nikolamgogeta, get new laptop and put swap on SSD :)12:56
ak5nikolam: good for you, yet making blanket statements will get you in trouble12:56
gogetanikolam: so did i a desktop user has no use for swap maybe in a server hosting tons of apps msql etc that will use a tonof memery it still has its use12:57
nikolamak5, and your lack of experience might end up using windows again :)12:57
nikolamgogeta, ou have wrong perspective.12:57
ak5nikolam: I don't fear for you, you seem to have a solid opinion based on some erroneous beliefs. I fear for the people that might learn from you12:57
gogetanikolam: AND YOURS IS OUTDATED12:57
gogetalol ops caps12:58
nikolamHow you open 12GB picture on 4GB RAM machine? Easily. System uses swap WHEN NEEDED.12:58
nikolamgogeta, I think 4GB is too small actually. You should get 32GB .12:58
nikolamand play tetris :)12:58
Pumpkin-doing anything with the image might turn out to be a bit painful, but it will indeed load (if you have enough swap).12:58
nikolamPumpkin-, yes :)12:59
ak5Pumpkin-: that's why I always suggest to use 60% of any harddrive for swap12:59
gogetanikolam: load a 12gb pic on a 4gb box and watch i a fail b strggle even with swap12:59
nikolamak5, no it is a bad practice.12:59
nikolamgogeta, it will NOT fail if you have swap :)12:59
nikolamit wil just last longer.12:59
ak5nikolam: oh sorry. I thought there was one answer12:59
gogetanikolam: once again the desktop user still has no use13:00
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ankur Pressing the windows button in the last version of lubuntu i.e. 12.04 used to bring the lxde menu, but it doesn't happen in 12.10. Any solution? Also my printer (HP Deskjet F2235) is not working. The error log is here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1320634/13:00
gogetanikolam: i dont think he will be downloading 12gb pics13:00
nikolamgogeta, then your desktop use is Outdated :P13:00
ak5!patience | ankur13:00
ubottuankur: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/13:00
nikolamgogeta, why not. they are on torrents, like picture of whole glaxy.,13:00
gogetanikolam: avg user is web email videos games13:00
nikolamPoint is that you never know what usage will it be on machine13:01
ak5gogeta: don't waste your time. long live swap13:01
nikolamTherefore, default recommendations  should be usage-proof for general desktop uses13:01
gogetaak5: lol13:01
nikolamgogeta, you never know. that's the point13:01
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gogetayea yea long live outdated tec13:01
nikolamso you never recommend not using swap per se.13:02
BluesKajif you're unsure or need a different primary partition then a swap file work well13:02
nikolamgogeta, I guess Linux get big using utdated usage cases, like servers on 80+% machines on internet?13:02
BluesKajworls well13:02
gogetanikolam: for a server or a gfx artest i would13:02
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nikolamgogeta, oh, nice you understand 2 usage cases that are for about 90% of linux use13:03
OrochikakuOK, I'm back ak5 .13:03
gogetanikolam: this rom is the other 10%13:03
gogetatoom13:03
nikolamLinux is NOT firstly desktop, that is misconception. it is Firstly great for server use, then latter.13:03
gogetalol13:03
ak5does anyone know what version of ubuntu I plug in to unetbootin for amd64 12.4 lts server edition? live_x64?13:03
nikolamgogeta, yes, but, dont forget all other 9013:03
cnfimo, linux isn't all that good at desktop13:04
gogetacnf: ubuntu used to be now eh13:04
gogetabut13:04
ak5cnf: depends on your hardware :D13:04
nikolamcnf, yup. It is better theese days. And improving.13:04
cnfak5:  no it doesn't13:04
gogetanikolam: i bet you call unity good13:04
gogetacnf: try bodhi with e17 its awsome13:05
cnflinux is an awesome server os, and i love working with it13:05
Orochikakuak5: are you still helping me? If not, is anyone willing to help a nub?13:05
nikolamgogeta, nope, I call unity hell :) But I guess people get used to new things. I tested it on 50+ yrs users. It works for them. :P13:05
the_dark_knighthi, please somebody give me some good links on /etc/inittab and respawn . I want some of my processes to be up and running all the time. I am going crazy, please atlease help me understand how to do this.13:05
cnfit drives me NUTS as a desktop OS, and it has for the past 14+ years13:05
goat777facewhat's your problem Orochikaku?13:05
gogetanikolam: nope its hell im using e17 and its inproved so mutch over the years ubuntu should be using it13:05
ak5cnf: I have 768 GB ram on my desktop :(13:06
gogetanikolam: the wm the new users forgot was even alive13:06
nikolamcnf, me too. But i just Love it. It is there and improving. I went to Xfce from 2007 onwards13:06
cnfak5:  so what?13:06
dr_willisthe_dark_knight: learn upstart to make services on ubuntu13:06
ak5nothing else will handle it13:06
ak5:(13:06
cnfgogeta: http://www.bodhilinux.com/quickstart/quickstartEN/e17.html doesn't impress me, at first look13:06
nikolamak5, nice.13:07
ak5Orochikaku: whats your Q?13:07
gogetacnf: watch the video13:07
goat777faceOrochikaku: what are you having trouble with?13:07
ak5nikolam: yeah I just got it last week, check out this babe: http://ark.intel.com/products/56253/Intel-Server-Board-S2600GZ13:07
gogetacnf: just 1 of many modes/themes it has13:07
dr_willise17 the "we are totally redoing it all again" desktop. ;-)13:07
ak5I was all like, hey I live in china, I can indulge on hardware cause its cheap13:07
cnfgogeta: yeah, doesn't impress me much13:08
llutzdr_willis: more "we are 10yrs too late" desktop13:08
gogetacnf: fast as lxde with windows effects and does not have the overhead of compiz13:08
Orochikakugoat777face: I'll send you an imgur album in a sec13:08
cnfcan't be worse than this unity stuff i'm on though13:08
goat777faceok, Orochikaku13:08
Orochikakugoat777face: would you mind pm'ing13:08
goat777faceI would mind tbh13:09
cnfgogeta: so? there is MUCH more to a WM than pretty effects13:09
the_dark_knightdr_willis: are upstart and init same? I don't understand. I mean init is for restarting the processes after reboot. but I want my processes to restart even after a failure/ abort. please help.13:09
nikolamak5, maybe ECC is obligatory as RAm gets bigger. As well as Btrfs or ZFS for HDD integrity and disk pools get bigger.13:09
dr_willis10 years ago e## was huge and heavy... now pcs are 10000* faster.. so its lite. ;-)13:09
gogetacnf: yep but it does them wile still fast13:09
gogetacnf: it has a no effects mode to13:09
dr_willis!upstart | the_dark_knight13:09
ubottuthe_dark_knight: Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/13:09
ak5nikolam: I am using btrfs, yes13:09
cnfgogeta: yeah, that doesn't impress me much13:09
josy1982kolamin kolamin yeah13:10
dr_willis!inittab13:10
ubottuUpstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/13:10
TimZehtaGreetings. I am experiencing a problem with logrotate. I symlinked a log directory for readability (directory is IP, I created hostname symlink). Now logrotate creates empty files. I have not been able to find any bug reports or methods to prevent empty files.13:10
gogetacnf: e17 was defult for redhat way back in the day13:10
nikolamak5, how do you cope with it's "already in development" and those horror stories form before, you think it is stable now (12.04) I fresh installed on Btrfs, too.13:10
gogetacnf: gnome 2 replaced it13:10
dr_willisi dont think ubuntu has inittab anymore13:10
ak5dr_willis: do you know much about upstart? I am testing ubuntu server edition to use in a server farm and am used to sysvinit or systemd13:10
cnfgogeta: so i'm back with "imo, linux isn't all that good at desktop"13:10
ak5nikolam: this machine runs archlinux, its all pretty stable here13:11
ak5no issues as of last week :P13:11
dr_willisak5 the upstart docs/cookbook page is well done13:11
nikolamak5, you use stable kernel I suppose. And rolling repo for apps.13:11
the_dark_knightubottu: thanks .looking at the link. I 'll let you know13:11
ubottuthe_dark_knight: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)13:11
ak5nikolam: yeah :D13:11
ak5nikolam: not everything can be bleeding edge :P13:11
gogetacnf: guess i like the no thrills managers13:12
ak5but I needed to patch my kernel to support this kind of ram13:12
gogetacnf: that does not murder my ssem13:12
gogetasystem13:12
nikolamak5, I was thinking about arch the other day. Got bored with ubuntu 'release freeze' policy. Meaning I get to get used to broken apps for years.13:12
cnfgogeta: i don't think you are duplicating what i am saying...13:12
Orochikakugoat777face: http://imgur.com/a/OxDiS13:12
nikolamak5, I think those chit chat should move to -offtopic channel and leave #ubutnu for support13:13
nikolam:)13:13
ak5nikolam: I am the opposite right now. I have been using arch only (finally retired my old netbsd servers) for about a year and it is a b*tch to keep uptodate13:13
nikolamak5, I see13:13
ak5k13:13
gogetacnf: if unity isnt your bain them what heh13:13
ak5nikolam: nothing will replace arch on my desktop/laptops though. It is soo good13:13
the_dark_knightubottu: I am downloading upstart from http://upstart.ubuntu.com/download.html but is there any package for upstart so that I can sudo apt-get install13:13
ubottuthe_dark_knight: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)13:13
gogetanikolam: arch lol it is fast13:14
Orochikakugoat777face: so, what do I do?13:14
cnfgogeta: nothing... i have yet to find a way for me to like linux as a desktop os13:14
cnfthough unity is particularly bad13:14
nailora1in matlab you have a "keyboard" command to fall back to interactice input within scripts. this is handy for debugging and prototyping. is there something like this for bash/shell?13:14
cnfand needs replacing, fast13:14
dr_willisthe_dark_knight: read the upstart cookbook. and docs.. it is the default init system... so it IS installed13:14
gogetacnf: replace with e17 lol13:14
goat777facewhat are you trying to do, Orochikaku?13:14
cnfgogeta: no, thank you13:14
nikolamI guess I require file systems snapshots integrated in update process. Therefore I will like to have snapshot support in ubuntu for updates for btrfs, zfs gogeta , at513:15
Orochikakugoat777face: Install Ubuntu on a external hardrive.13:15
gogetacnf: yu just saw a vid its the gnome 2 style13:15
* nikolam quiting chitchat on support channel :)13:15
cnfgogeta: so what?13:15
gogetacnf: that was ubuntus golden days gnome 213:16
drcodehi all13:16
dr_willishttp://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/   the best place to learn upstart13:16
cnfgogeta: there where no golden days13:16
drcodeis it possible to use mount -o loop to spcific folder in the image?13:16
nailora1http://vjethava.blogspot.de/2010/11/matlabs-keyboard-command-in-python.html is for python. i am looking for the bash equivalent13:16
Orochikakugoat777face: are you sure you can't do PM's this channel is really spammy :(13:16
dr_willisdrcode: not that ive seen.13:16
nikolamdr_willis, is upstart used somewhere outside ubuntu-based distros?13:16
goat777faceonly got one window open I can use, sorry Orochikaku13:17
dr_willisnikolam:  it can be.13:17
drcodeok13:17
OrochikakuIt's cool goat777face .13:17
llutzdrcode: loop mount the image, then bind-mount the directory you want13:17
drcodellutz: how do I bind it?13:17
nikolamdr_willis, but not right now, right. I see many more techology in ubuntu being ubuntu-only, more and more.13:18
OrochikakuSo, are you figuring out what to do, or did you allready tell me, and I missed it? (ping : goat777face )13:18
gogetanikolam: that just means .deb binarys lol13:18
dr_willisOrochikaku: you install to external. same as you do internal. just be sure grub installs to the right sd# decev13:18
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Orochikakudr_willis: sorry, I have no idea what that means, first time Ubuntu user here...13:19
gogetanikolam: but being ubuntu is the biggest distro why not start there before it falls down to the other guys13:19
llutzdrcode: mount --bind /mnt/loop/dir /newmountpoint13:19
goat777facedelete the partition you want to use and allow the installer to do its thing. There's nothing important on it, right?13:19
OrochikakuNo, infact just formated it.13:19
llutzdrcode: or mount -o bind13:19
drcodeo13:19
drcodeok13:19
drcodethankyou13:19
nikolamgogeta, I remembet Ubuntu made biggest distro with Debian heritage. And sending free CD's on Post.13:19
dr_willisOrochikaku: the guides for installling apply to internal or external... just a few clicks and it doesit all.13:19
Adismananybody with spotify that can help me here?13:20
gogetanikolam: they did the free cds for a very long time got some laying around hear. they still do it but limit 1 free one per account.13:20
dr_willisjust pay attention to the bootloader install steps.13:20
Orochikakugoat777face: it still gives me this : http://i.imgur.com/d3Hgd.png13:21
lolo567Adisman whats the question?13:21
goat777facenew partition table13:21
dr_willis!shipit13:21
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ubottuCanonical is no longer sending free Ubuntu CDs to individuals through its ShipIt program.  For more information please see http://blog.canonical.com/?p=551 !LoCo teams can request CDs through this link https://forms.canonical.com/lococd/13:21
Adismani can't install it13:21
gogeta:(13:21
nikolamgogeta, yes, that is how I started with 6.06 And I downloaded 6.10 using 56K landline modem :)13:21
Orochikakugoat777face: walkthrough plz? I have no idea what Ubuntu needs13:21
lolo567<Adisman> any error?13:21
dr_willisOrochikaku: you need to tell it what partition to use for /  thats the roor partition13:22
Adismani tried to add it to sources.list, but i says "can't open file to write to"13:22
dr_willisroot partitiin13:22
gogetanikolam: bet your still using it lol13:22
goat777facenew partition table> select the type you want13:23
Orochikakudr_willis: what file system?13:23
nikolamgogeta, nope, But I got used to LTS :)13:23
dr_willisOrochikaku: ubuntu uses ext413:23
nikolamless chance of hear attacks :)13:23
goat777faceext413:23
lolo567<Adisman> what version of ubuntu you go?13:23
Adisman<lolo567> i tried to add it to sources.list, but i says "can't open file to write to"13:24
Adismani tried to add it to sources.list, but i says "can't open file to write to"13:24
Orochikakudr_willis: thats all I need right? If yes, wierd all guides the internet throws at me says get SWAP and Ex4.13:24
nikolamgogeta, I still heal wounds for regular releases regressions over years.13:24
dr_willisexample partition layout.. (/ root ext4) (swap type of swap)13:24
gogetanikolam: heh like amazon ads13:24
dr_willisOrochikaku: swap is normally used also13:25
goat777faceyou probably won't need swap anywya13:25
nikolamgogeta, I'll got to check them13:25
lolo567type: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list13:25
boxerfoxerwould someone be able to help me revert back to an older package of Java?13:25
dr_willisOrochikaku: 2 partitions. one for /. one for swap. is normally used13:25
gogetanikolam: more of ubuntu being nuty then anything heh. dont knoe how they thought ads in unity was going to go well13:26
Orochikakudr_willis: how many percent of my drive do you reccomend I allocate?13:26
Orochikakufor SWAP.13:26
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lolo567<Adisman> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list13:26
Adisman<lolo567> xubuntu 11.1013:26
dr_willisOrochikaku: depends on your needs13:26
goat777faceOrochikaku, what's your RAM?13:27
nikolamgogeta, since I am on xfce, I can not comment untill I get to see unity and try it. I must just say I instantly removed Ubuntu one on 10.04 , since I see it as privacy concern.13:27
OrochikakuMy home machine has 16 butt the one I'm on right now, has3.9 goat777face .13:27
goat777facemore RAM =less swap13:27
OrochikakuWhat is swap anyway?13:28
goat777facehere ya go http://www.centos.org/docs/5/html/5.1/Deployment_Guide/s1-swap-what-is.html13:28
ActionParsnipOrochikaku: its like pagefile in Windows13:28
goat777faceI've never had to use swap tbh, even on older PC's13:28
goat777faceit just never gets used13:29
nikolamOrochikaku, it is disk space used when RAM is not enough. It swaps out unuse dparts of memory to disk, so apps in memory get more space. ALo is used as RAm replacement when apps need too much ram. Also swap spac eis used when you hibernate machine to disk.13:29
Adisman<lolo567> how do i save?13:30
JoeyJoeJoHow can I reinstall a package and all its dependencies?13:30
goat777facesudo apt-get install synaptic13:31
goat777facesearch synaptic for the package you want and it will list the dependencies13:31
nikolamJoeyJoeJo, it is done automatically with packageing managers. apt-get , synaptic, software center, gdebi13:31
ActionParsnipJoeyJoeJo: you can use apt-rdepends to see deps of a package13:31
ak5is there really no way to get ssh in a ubuntu-server live install?13:32
Adisman<lolo567> how do i save?13:32
Orochikakudr_willis: would swap be Primary or Logical?13:32
ActionParsnipak5: you can install the package if you press CTRL+ALT+F113:32
ak5ActionParsnip: thanks13:33
Orochikakudr_willis: ?13:33
nikolamak5, of course, you just install it while booted form live cd, it will install in memory and run from there.13:33
theadminCan someone link me to the contribute page? I don't get it anymore when going to the download place13:33
Orochikakugoat777face: would swap be Priamary or Logical?13:33
ak5nikolam: maybe I don't have the live version then13:33
ak5ActionParsnip: the  built-in ash shell does not have apt13:34
ak5ActionParsnip: or wget/curl for that matter13:34
lolo567<Adisman> ctrl-x and hit y13:34
nikolamak5, one can install .deb.package with dpkg -i13:34
vfwak5:   http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/13:34
OrochikakuWhy doesn't anyone answer :(13:34
ActionParsnipak5: ah, then you will have to remaster the ISO to add the package13:34
ActionParsnipOrochikaku: I did earlier....13:34
ak5vfw: I created this usb with unetbootin13:35
vfwOrochikaku: It can be either one.13:35
Adisman<lolo567> thx :D13:35
Orochikakuvfw: what would be better?13:35
nikolamOrochikaku, put swap at the end of disk, it you are making it.13:35
vfwak5: Good, didn't know if you saw it earlier13:35
ActionParsnipOrochikaku: swap can be either primary or logical, it doesn't matter one bit13:35
ActionParsnip'13:35
goat777facedoesn't really matter Orochikaku, but I went  for logical13:35
vfwOrochikaku: Doesn't matter13:35
Orochikakunikolam: Ok, will do.13:35
ak5ActionParsnip: thats balls, I guess I will boot some other livecd distro to make backups then :(13:35
nikolamI suggest putting first primary ntfs for data exchange, then Linux primary, then swap.13:35
ActionParsnipOrochikaku: if it was important, the installer would handle it13:35
vfwnikolam: Why?13:35
ActionParsnipak5: why not use the Ubuntu liveCD?13:36
vfwnikolam: I suggest the swap first,13:36
ak5ActionParsnip: don't have one on hand. I really just want to try out the server version13:36
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nikolamvfw, I gess becaus windblows always loved to be primary/first in case of dualboot...13:36
nikolamthats why13:36
ActionParsnipak5: the server version is just a pure CLI based ubuntu. It's nothing drastically different13:36
ActionParsnipnikolam: it doesn't have to be13:36
ak5ActionParsnip: yeah but I am installing headless :D13:37
vfwnikolam: Oh yes.  If you ever wanted to do MS Windows install, by all means, leave one there at the first.13:37
ak5nikolam: newer bootloaders can handle it either way13:37
ActionParsnipak5: could use a gentoo CD and install openssh-server :)13:37
Orochikakunikolam: OK, so other than swap all I need is a Ext4 /boot right?13:37
nikolamI know, but windblows needs primary, anyway, so why spoil the fun, when swap can be anywhere, including the end13:37
ak5ActionParsnip: will do this but with arch13:37
ActionParsnipnikolam: it doesn't need to be primary at all13:37
vfwActionParsnip: For a windows install?13:37
vfwActionParsnip: It needs to be the first partition.  Right?13:38
ActionParsnipvfw: yes, it's just a partition, its irrelevant if its primary or logical, doesn;t matter13:38
nikolamOrochikaku, or you can choose Btrfs if installing from alternate CD :) Nevermind, just choose ext4, you can update to Btrfs if needed at a later time  :)13:38
vfwActionParsnip: Are you still talking about swap?13:38
ActionParsnipvfw: no, its just that people installing dual boot, install Windows first, so it happens to be a primary partition13:38
goat777facehope it works out for you Orochikaku, I gotta go do my chores.13:38
ak5I still don't see why ubuntu server doen't have ssh packaged by default :( that's just messy13:39
nikolamActionParsnip, well, depends on windblows release and also I know windblows make 2 partitions now13:39
vfwActionParsnip: If it's the first partition, it WILL be a primary partition.13:39
ActionParsnipvfw: you could boot to Ubuntu liveCD and setup the partitions, then install Windows to a logical partition then install Ubuntu to 2 primary partitions, one for / and one for swap13:39
Orochikakunikolam: I am installing from a alternate PENDRIVE, so I should get Btrfs and put it on /boot?13:39
ActionParsnipvfw: you can make the drive 100% extended partition and use only logical partitions13:39
nikolamOrochikaku, just make sure you write grub (upade-grub) to right disk (e.g. USB HD, not main disk on SATA in machine)13:39
Orochikakunikolam: got it.13:40
nikolamOrochikaku, just follow defaults. don't worry much for now :)13:40
vfwActionParsnip: Oh, ok.  Well, I've just never done that.  I always make the 4th one extended.13:40
Orochikakunikolam: Then I install to /boot right? Do I give all my empty space to /boot? Or do I need / for normal files?13:41
vfwIt just seems silly to have only 4 partitions and they're all logical ones.13:41
ActionParsnipvfw: its doable, but the usual is to have the first partition primary as the Windows installer is a bit basic13:41
nikolamOrochikaku, for novel user, you just need to choose "/"13:41
ActionParsnipvfw: with logical partitions, you can  have as many as you desire13:41
vfwActionParsnip: yes, that's right.13:41
nikolamswap making is optional but recommended, ntfs primary is optional, too13:41
Orochikakunikolam: would the computer detect it as a boot device though?13:42
AlexNagyHey all, I have a problem with 12.04 LTS. I've resized the partition twice (shrinking it down leaving a few GBs free each time) with a GParted boot-stick. the first time all went well, but now it boot. The only difference is I moved the swap to a different primary partition. It won't boot in rescue mood or anything. It just freezes at the loading screen (UBUNTU with the dots underneath). I have 3g of RAM13:42
nikolamOrochikaku, that depends on saving GRUb boot loader at the end of instalaltion and also on your computer settings from Where to boot first (BIOS)13:42
vfwBut if you dont ever intend to install MS Windows, there's no reason for ntfs partition.13:42
AlexNagybut now it won't boot*13:43
the_dark_knighthow Do I add job to initctl (from upstart) ? this job is supposed to be up and running all the time.13:43
ActionParsnipvfw: it'll make life easier too :)13:43
Orochikakunikolam: you also mentioned removing the sata first right?13:43
nikolamAlexAv, that is why you get swap last not to interfere in future.13:44
sockethello guys, i've got ubuntu server machine, pretty sure apache is not intalled, is there a good way to find out for sure?13:44
nikolamOrochikaku, as fail-safe.13:44
vfwAlexNagy: Looks like maybe you've changed the partition number of the  root  filesystem.13:44
MonkeyDustsocket  in your browser, go to 127.0.0.1    what does it say?13:44
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llutzsocket: dpkg -l '*apache*'13:44
vfwAlexNagy: Grub tries but will not boot?  What error do you get?13:44
socketthanks llutz13:45
nikolamAlexAv, I guess you would need to boot form LiveCD and change /etc/fstab settings to point to the right UUID/disk partition for your /13:45
AlexNagyvfw: Ubuntu is the first partition, and always has been. GRUB loads, and I can get to it checking battery state (I'm on a laptop) but it catches there. No error.13:45
AlexNagynikolam: ....13:45
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vfwAlexNagy: So you have only one Linux partition?13:45
tubbohey guys, if i were to buy a laptop right now for strictly web dev purposes, which one should i get? all i need it to do, really, is run Chrome and a terminal.13:46
vfwAlexNagy: I think it's a different problem.13:46
llutztubbo: wrong channel13:46
tubboi would prefer a nice graphical linux distro like ubuntu, since it would be easy to install chrome13:46
AlexNagyvfw: I have three. 1: Ubuntu ext4; 2: ext2 (formerly swap), 3: ufs, 4: swap (new)13:46
ActionParsniptubbo: check system7613:47
tubbollutz: heh i guess it's a little too vague...what i really mean is what's the best low-level laptop for ubuntu? or where can i "shop around"13:47
nikolamtubbo, buy one that surely have all parts supported for Linux. You choose by comapring price and all parts for compatibility.13:47
ActionParsniptubbo: omgubuntu has some tips on companies pre-installing ubuntu13:47
llutztubbo: wrong channel, this is ubuntu-support not help-me-shopping, ask in hardware13:47
llutz#hardware13:47
MonkeyDusttubbo  start here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/Machines/Laptops?action=show&redirect=HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops13:48
vfwAlexNagy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=179438313:48
vfwAlexNagy: Did you change fstab entries?13:49
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vfwAlexNagy: What is ufs?13:49
nikolamvfw, ufs is a file system for freebsd, unices13:49
AlexNagyvfw: No, I didn't. ufs is the native fs for FreeBSD (which I'm chatting from now)13:50
nikolamAlexAv, isn't t is ZFS now?13:50
vfwAlexNagy: So you moved the swap partition from the second to the forth partition?13:51
AlexNagynikolam: You really need to check your tab complete. ZFS is an option, but by default it is ufs (I did a default install from boot-stick for 9.0-release)13:51
AlexNagyvfw: Yes, as I was needing a unified space to act as intermediary betweeun Ubuntu and FreeBSD13:51
nikolamAlexAv, oh I see, I just thought every freebsd user these days will bi on zfs.13:52
vfwAlexNagy: And Ubuntu is in the first partition and always has been?  /dev/sda113:52
AlexNagyvfw: Yes13:52
AlexNagythe only thing to change is location of swap13:52
vfwAlexNagy: Why couldn't it stay there as the third partition?13:52
nikolamuse ZFS as intermediary, since Linux now supports ZFS boot and BE's13:52
ikoniaubuntu does not support zfs13:53
ikoniait is not part of the ubuntu kernel13:53
AlexNagyvfw: Because gparted doesn't handle ufs, though it recognizes it. Otherwise I would have made ext2 third and ufs fourth13:53
nikolamI think Ubuntu uses UUID to identify partition for some time now.13:53
vfwAlexNagy: You created the new ext2 partition (/dev/sda2) for what reason?13:53
vfwAlexNagy: Well, you could have just changed the partition's ID13:54
nikolamikonia, you are right. You need to add ZFS from PPA before installing on ZFS13:54
AlexNagyvfw: To transfer a massive amount of files from ubuntu to FreeBSD and to act as the home of Dropbox on Ubuntu (no FreeBSD support)13:54
ikoniaI would strongly advise against not using ZFS13:54
ikoniaunless you have a specific reason to do so that I've missed13:54
vfwAlexNagy: You can change partition IDs non-destructively with fdisk13:54
AlexNagyikonia: I have no plans to use zfs at this time.13:54
llutzikonia: "against using"13:54
nikolamikonia, ZFS is grat for petabyte scale. It is more stable then Btrfs, fyi13:54
ikoniallutz: sorry yes13:54
nikolamok AlexAv13:55
ikonianikolam: I'm aware of this, I'm not calling ZFS, I use it all the time in the enterprise,13:55
nikolamsorry, AlexNagy13:55
nikolamok, ikonia13:55
ActionParsnipnikolam: do you have petabyte storage?13:55
AlexNagyvfw: Thanks, I'll see what I can do. Thanks for the help.13:55
nikolamActionParsnip, not . yet. :)13:55
theadminHm... So I'm messing with quickly and when I run "quickly design" Glade segfaults on me, what gives?13:56
vfwAlexNagy: Ok, well at any rate, see: http://askubuntu.com/questions/205695/12-04-hangs-at-checking-battery-state13:56
AlexNagychecking13:56
sujihi13:56
Orochikakunikolam: you also mentioned removing the sata first right?.13:56
nikolamOrochikaku, I suggested it. Not that it is needed.13:57
sujii am using ubuntu 12.04 on mhy asus u31f notw13:57
nikolam9/10 times it is a toothbrush13:57
Orochikakunikolam: OK, done just finnished removing the SATA drive.13:58
sujihelp usb dvd rw not working in ubuntu 12.0413:58
clarezoe Hi, I just upgraded my ubuntu to 12.10 but my virtualbox got problem that the virtual machine won't open any websites but some chat program works. Can any one help? I have Ubuntu 12.10 as host and windows 7 as guest and Network adater set NAT and Intel PRO/100 MT Desktop13:58
nikolamsuji, plug it in :)13:58
sujiyep nikolam i did . it detects but an error on plugin in13:59
singular1help13:59
nikolamclarezoe, you installed 12.10 inside virtualbox? Did you upgaded drivers for guest in Vbox? What OS is a host?13:59
nikolamclarezoe, you installed 12.10 inside virtualbox? Did you upgaded drivers for guest in Vbox? What OS is a host?14:00
gabrielpjordaoHi, is it a good idea to use template streaming on usual webpages? not larger ones.. May it improve the TTFB?14:00
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nikolamclarezoe, see also #vbox14:00
Orochikakunikolam: second pic is the final file format, or whatever you call it... http://imgur.com/a4SCF,n791K14:00
nikolamsuji, what is the error14:00
engomarhi i am new here :D14:01
clarezoenikolam, no, ubuntu 12.10 is the host and I installed windows7 in virtualbox, it worked well before I upgraded it14:01
sujiCould not display "computer:///CD%5CDVD%20Drive.drive".  is not a folder nikolam14:01
OrochikakuThats ok right nikolam ? Just pasting it here again http://imgur.com/a4SCF,n791K .14:01
nikolamclarezoe, upgrade vbox addons, too14:01
nikolamok Orochikaku14:02
OrochikakuK, thanks for all the help nikolam I just hope the machine recognises it.14:02
nikolamsuji, check your /etc/fstab maybe it would be needed to add folder to a /media/drivemountname14:02
clarezoenikolam, thanks I will try and come back later14:02
Hariswhere can I find a mirror or download link for ubuntu 11.1 ? The main website for Ubuntu .. is .. pretty .. *bloated*14:02
ActionParsnipHaris: cdimage site has it, it's EOL soon though14:03
HarisI had to go through multiple clicks to find the link for server version14:03
theadminHaris: http://releases.ubuntu.com14:03
ActionParsnipHaris: http://releases.ubuntu.com/oneiric/14:03
nikolamOrochikaku, in doubt, check machin BIOS manual for butting form USB drive first. Also I always do everything in third try, so if not woirking, try it again..14:03
erictr1ckanyone know of a good way to show an unread message count or indicator for pidgin in 12.10? i tried using empathy but it seemed way too buggy.14:03
ActionParsnipHaris: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=oneiric+ISO    notice the fist link?14:03
Orochikakuk14:03
ubhhi all! I installed 12.04 x86 Server in an old PC. No server X is installed. Is there a way to get an X application running via ssh on my laptop without installing X server on the old pc?14:03
nikolamerictr1ck, mine pidgin tells me if I have mail on acounts used with it.14:04
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nikolamerictr1ck, there is also plugin for thunderbird that adds unread message count to the folder list14:05
theadminubh: Uh... No.14:05
MonkeyDustubh  it's got to be there in  order to run it14:05
OrochikakuWhen I was doing the Ubuntu servers at work I had such an ass of a time to get the mobo to detect Ubuntu as a OS.14:05
lJ6ilHi. Could someone tell me how could i apply this patch ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/106903114:06
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1069031 in xorg-server (Ubuntu) "intel gma3600: X unable to start" [Medium,Triaged]14:06
ActionParsnipubh: if you just install the GUI apps you need, they will install the deps they need. You can use apt-get's --no-deps option (check man page) to install minimal packages14:06
tubbollutz: thanks, didn't know there was a #hardware14:06
nikolamyes ubh , just use ssh -X to machine. Problem is that apps would need libraries, so you got to have them installed, even if X is not installed/active14:06
OrochikakuPreinstalled on hardrives ofcourse...14:06
nikolamso depending on app14:06
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ubhnikolam: I'll check, ok14:06
the_dark_knightplease somebody list out some "always up and running " tasks running on my pc? is mysql one of them?14:07
nikolamit ends up to mostly install everything and just not having X active /gdm disabled.14:07
OrochikakuOf course...14:07
OrochikakuIt needs to download files.14:07
ActionParsniplJ6il: tried this?: https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa?field.series_filter=quantal14:07
Orochikaku;-(14:07
nikolamthe_dark_knight, you use top to see active processes14:08
ubhnikolam: so easy??? Works! :D14:08
ubhnikolam: fine!14:08
ActionParsnipubh: add the boot option:  text     and the GUI won't load at boot14:08
nikolam:) ubh14:09
lJ6ilActionParsnip, i don't understand. What is it ? :)14:09
lJ6il(sorry i'm not english)14:09
ActionParsniplJ6il: its a bleeding edge Xorg, may help14:10
the_dark_knightnikolam: also  http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#precepts-for-creating-a-job-configuration-file here it says to do " $ sudo start myjob14:10
lJ6ila bleeding edge ?14:10
the_dark_knightnikolam: but what does the myjob indicate?14:10
nikolammyjob is service name the_dark_knight14:11
lJ6ilActionParsnip, oh ok !14:11
lJ6ilthank you :)14:11
nikolamthere is service command, too the_dark_knight14:11
OrochikakuOh how nice, 5 days till download complete :(....14:11
ActionParsniplJ6il: bleeding edge == compiled within a few days using the very latest source code14:11
alcshello14:12
alcssomebody?14:12
lJ6ilActionParsnip, is it normal if there's only jaunty packages ? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XorgOnTheEdge14:12
alcsvand branza14:12
ActionParsniplJ6il: the link I gave is the PPA14:12
DJones!ask | alcs14:12
ubottualcs: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience14:12
nikolamOrochikaku, what is your location/internet speed/selected repo server?14:12
ActionParsniplJ6il: read the link....notice how it says Quantal.....14:12
lJ6ilActionParsnip, ok. thanks14:12
llutznikolam: "service" is sysVinit, use initctrl for upstart14:12
Harisdoes this ( http://releases.ubuntu.com/oneiric/ubuntu-11.10-server-amd64.iso ) work on Xeons ?14:13
Harisits a stupid Q, I know. Just confirming14:13
llutztheadmin: "myjob" refers to the job you want control. replae with your real job/scriptname14:13
Harisbefore I go through 2-3 hrs of work for nothing14:13
nikolamllutz, I guess i got too used to solaris svcs14:13
theadminllutz: tab fail14:13
Orochikakunikolam: down speed is 20mbps, location Malaysia, selected repo server there was no opt to choose one...14:14
ActionParsnipHaris: yes, it'll work on any modern 64bit CPU14:14
HarisActionParsnip: I now know its near EOL. The guy perhaps has had a functioning system on 11.1 before. So he wants the same now14:14
ix_I14:14
ActionParsnipHaris: as long as you are both aware14:14
llutztheadmin: sry14:14
ix_I'm having trouble with my microphone on a intel d510mo motherboard, intel atom14:14
nikolamOrochikaku, if booting from live CD, you can install without internet. I would do like that :) After install upgrade.14:15
ix_it only registers loud noises14:15
HarisIs 11.2 available ?14:15
ActionParsnipHaris: there is no 11.214:15
Orochikakunikolam: meh rather do a 1 shot :P14:15
ActionParsnipHaris: the next release after 11.10 is 12.0414:15
Harisgot it14:15
ActionParsnipHaris: the numbers are the year and month released. This isn't Mac OS14:15
nikolam.04 .10 .04 .1014:16
Haristhat's ok14:16
Harisjust confirming14:16
nikolamand every 10 years. .06 :)14:16
ActionParsnipnikolam: really?14:17
nikolamActionParsnip, :D14:17
ActionParsniphahaha14:17
OrochikakuOh fuck, just realized i'm installing 32bit... This processor (3770K) is 64bit compatible... HERPA DI DERP.14:17
hilacha#slackware14:17
IdleOne!language | Orochikaku14:17
ubottuOrochikaku: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.14:17
vfwOrochikaku: 32bit is ok14:18
vfwOrochikaku: That's not a problem14:18
nikolamOrochikaku, it will install fine. Don't sweat :) Just 64-bit is better suited for 64-bit cpu14:18
icerootOrochikaku: still installing? then use amd64 instead if you have more then 1gb ram14:18
nikolamgo get 64bit, anyway, that's the future.14:18
ActionParsnipOrochikaku: you can run 32bit OS on 64bit CPU14:19
OrochikakuCancel the install?14:19
vfwOrochikaku: Only if you want to.14:19
icerootOrochikaku: i would suggest to install amd64 if your cpu is able to do it and not install i38614:19
nikolamOrochikaku, jou can do install it just for fun, while downloading 64-bit .iso :)14:19
Orochikakunikolam: can you just upgrade?14:20
cnfhmz, damned gnome inconsistencies are driving me nuts14:20
vfwOrochikaku: As far as performance, no difference.14:20
Orochikakunikolam: or will I have to do a whole re-install?14:20
nikolami would suggest 64bit too14:20
ActionParsnipOrochikaku: you'd need to reinstall. What is the system used for and how much RAM do you have?14:20
vfwOrochikaku: No you can't just upgrade, you have to install one or the other.14:20
icerootOrochikaku: you cant upgrade, you have to reinstall to switch to amd64, because of that its always a good idea to use amd64 directly if the cpu is able to do it14:20
nikolamI don't think so. Unless you use Btrfs Volumes to install 2 versions side-by-side on same partition.. and that sound complicating, right? :P14:21
vfwOrochikaku: How much RAM do you have?14:21
Orochikakuvfw: on this system 3.9 on my personal 16.14:21
icerootOrochikaku: then you MUST install amd64 to use all the ram14:21
nikolamuse 64bit.14:21
vfwOrochikaku: Just go on with the 32bit install. (That's what I would do.)14:21
icerootvfw: why?14:22
vfwiceroot: Why not?14:22
icerootvfw: 3.9gb ram14:22
ActionParsnipOrochikaku: 32bit should be ok with 4Gb RAM14:22
nikolamiceroot, just for fun? :)14:22
icerootActionParsnip: no14:22
vfwiceroot: no what?14:22
ActionParsnipOrochikaku: what is the system going to be used for?14:22
Orochikakuiceroot: REALLY?! Linux does that bullshit too? Where it stops using ram when your using 32bit14:22
OrochikakuActionParsnip: as a portable OS.14:22
icerootOrochikaku: that has nothing to do with linux14:22
nikolamOrochikaku, I think you worry too much. Just test it yourself and learn in the process :)14:22
bazhangOrochikaku, no cursing here14:22
icerootOrochikaku: it has to do with math14:23
ActionParsnipiceroot: sure, maximum RAM for each process is 3.2Gb and the system has barely over that so it will never be reached14:23
vfwiceroot: The 32bit system will utilize the 4G of RAM just fine.  No problem.14:23
Orochikakubazhang: will where I'm from bullshit isn't cursing14:23
vfwiceroot: What math?14:23
bazhangOrochikaku, it is here. so stop it14:23
icerootvfw: 4gb ram = ram + vga + pci adrressbus14:23
ActionParsnipiceroot: plus the PAE will allow up to 64Gb RAM14:23
icerootvfw: so you dont see 4gb ram14:23
icerootvfw: maybe 3.2gb depending on the system14:23
vfwiceroot: Yea you do.14:23
icerootvfw: so why suggesting i386 then14:23
nikolamOrochikaku, well, linux generally had that problem solved eons ago. and it Will work using all ram, just Apps wont do. That is hardware barrier, not software.14:24
vfwiceroot: It doesn't matter.14:24
icerootvfw: of course it matters, please dont suggest something like that here14:24
OrochikakuAhh, ok nikolam never looked into the cause.14:24
nikolamiceroot, guy got cd already installing. nothing else.14:24
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OrochikakuPendrive*14:24
icerootnikolam: reinstall14:25
OrochikakuIs there anyway I can stop the install now?14:25
ActionParsnipOrochikaku: i suggest the 32bit, the 64bit will give a cleaner upgrade path plus it's installing. Unless you start doing CPU intensive tasks you won't notice much in 64bit, although you aren't using the full capabilities of your CPU14:25
icerootOrochikaku: if you are not in the part"resizing/formating the hdd" you can just restart the system14:25
ActionParsnipOrochikaku: if you want to stop it, just open a terminal and run:  sudo shutdown -h now14:26
gabrielpjordaoHi, is there a way to stream contents with nginx (gzip enabled) ? may it improve TTFB ?14:26
OrochikakuWait hold it, I actually want 32 bit. What if I go to a location that does not have a 64bit capable processor...14:26
icerootOrochikaku: ah you are installing on a usb drive14:26
icerootOrochikaku: and want to start it on different systems14:26
nikolamiceroot, that sight.14:26
ActionParsnipOrochikaku: then I'd go 32bit :)14:26
vfwiceroot: With the 64bit kernel, he could use more processor features in certain (rare) circumstances.  That's all.14:27
nikolamiceroot, that's right.14:27
icerootvfw: he could address all the ram14:27
icerootOrochikaku: then use i386 if you want to use it on 32bit systems too14:27
nikolamOrochikaku, you know all you have to know. At the end you will need to end up on 64bit.14:27
Orochikakuiceroot:  got it.14:27
Orochikakunikolam: actually I'll stay on 32bit.14:27
nikolamOrochikaku, how ever you want.14:28
nikolamjust being 32bit with 16GB is stupid :)14:28
llutzhe will experience other problems than 32/64bit when using an usb-install on different machines (graphics, sound)14:28
Orochikakunikolam: I'll just boot into Windows for RAM intensive operations.14:28
excalibrhey anyone tried the crossover app that is given for free today? i wonder how it stacks up to the official wine14:28
Orochikakullutz: just 2.14:28
ActionParsnipnikolam: you can access up to 64Gb with PAE14:28
Orochikakullutz: I cannot stand admin restrictions at my collage...14:29
icerootllutz: isnt that handled by udev dynamicly today? so even when installing nvidia drivers it should not fail on intel/amd plattforms because udev will not load it?14:29
nikolamOrochikaku, or you can learn about Btrfs functions and install 64-bit on same disk as 320bit install :)14:29
Orochikakunikolam:  just make another partition and install it there?14:29
MonkeyDust!btrfs14:29
ubottuBtrfs is a new filesystem available for Ubuntu. It is currently marked as experimental, and should not be used for important data. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/btrfs14:29
nikolamOrochikaku, no, learn about Btrfs. He can make subvolumes on same Btrfs partition14:30
Orochikaku> should not be used for important data14:30
llutziceroot: in theory... maybe. practical spoken: i doubt it all would work without issues14:30
icerootllutz: :)14:30
nikolamonce big palers (suse, oracle) have Btrfs by default, I guess it will be fine to say it is mainstream.14:31
llutzOrochikaku: you don't have admin rights but they allow you to boot from USB? odd14:31
OrochikakuHmm, I wonder if I just shrunk my / if I could install multible installs and there would be no GPU driver conflicts anywhere.14:31
ix_what is it with linux and microphones?14:32
Orochikakullutz: they can't block access to the BIOS.14:32
Mister2hey, is there a windows xp theme for gnome 3? I want to run ubuntu 12.10 in gnome classic and then skin it so it looks like windows. I'm doing some volunteer work for a nonprofit who has some issues with people downloading executables and porn and viruses and shit... Anybody know if phrankdachicken's script still works for 12.10?14:32
ActionParsnipllutz: some admins fail to lock down the BIOS :)14:32
ActionParsnipOrochikaku: they can14:32
qwdI'm trying to play videos from the dvd to Molecular Cell Biology of the Cell 5th edition. Some of them work in Totem but most don't. VLC doesn't work either. I have restricted gstreamer-stuff installed. The files are .mov14:32
llutzOrochikaku: why not? its the first thin we do here14:32
qwdHere's the output when trying to play the video file. http://pastebin.com/M6tF1qg314:32
ActionParsnipOrochikaku: they just havent :)14:32
OrochikakuThats just stupid to lock a BIOS14:32
Orochikakuanyway brb14:32
bazhangMister2, no cursing here please14:32
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Mister2bazhang duly noted14:33
ActionParsnipqwd: install w32codecs from medibuntu (I assume 32bit OS)14:33
theadminRepeating: I'm trying to use Quickly on Precise, yet when I run "quickly design" in a newly-created project, Glade segfaults.14:33
ActionParsniptheadmin: are there bugs reported?14:33
theadminActionParsnip: I'm not too sure whether that's a problem on my side or a bug... I can post the output if that helps...14:34
ix_arecord test.wav14:34
nikolamqwd, you need quicktime player for linux14:34
qwdnikolam: so w64codecs won't work?14:34
ActionParsniptheadmin: I would, the devs may have a fix /patch etc14:35
u1204hello, can anybody tell me, in what stage is Ubuntu Android smartphone project - is it ready and I can buy it or is it still in development?14:35
Mister2So, no one online knows of a WINDOWS XP theme for GNOME 3?14:35
theadminu1204: Just a concept so far iirc14:35
u1204just a concpt .. still?14:35
Mister2theadmin there's a whole page for it on ubuntu.com... iirc there was a download link at the bottom u120414:36
theadminu1204: Hardware developers need to partner with Canonical for the thing to work14:36
u1204I think it is a very good idea and has a great potential, they should put more effort into it14:36
Mister2theadmin aaah, it looked like it had finished14:36
ActionParsnipu1204: there is a how to on getting Ubuntu on a Nexus7, that is the aim of Raring.14:36
khussein78I am using CRM application build on java JDK, I have problem with text fields when i select a filed text disappeared, developers said it is something related to ubuntu theme or colors14:37
u1204on a Nexus!? .. interesting, thanks14:37
qwdnikolam: ActionParsnip: Yeah, no luck with w64codecs.14:37
ActionParsnipu1204: check omgubuntu14:37
khussein78is there an application build on JDK can I tested on ubuntu ?14:37
u1204ok14:37
MonkeyDustu1204  14.04 will go even further14:37
ActionParsnipMister2: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=197753314:38
nikolamqwd, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats14:38
Mister2ActionParsnip TO THE RESCUE! :D Somehow, you're almost always solving my problems....14:40
nikolamMister2, send him some cookies over Bitcoin :)14:40
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Mister2nikolam If i were more than a poor tech nomad, i would...14:41
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nikolamMister2, Khan was nomad, too :)14:42
lapionever since I upgraded to quantal I am having problems with bluetooth when returning from suspend14:42
lapionhowever if I relogin bluetooth works fine14:43
Mister2nikolam, I'm not sure what Khan you're talking about14:43
qwdnikolam: Installed ubuntu-restricted-extras and w64codecs but still no luck14:43
trigrou_vote for us - sketchfab http://pioneersfestival.com/startupvoting/14:43
nikolamlapion, seems like a target for ubuntu-bug  bug reporting :)14:43
bazhangtrigrou_, dont paste that here14:43
trigrou_why14:43
trigrou_I work on ubuntu14:43
bazhangtrigrou_, its not ubuntu support.14:44
nikolamMister2, Genghis Khan14:44
Mister2nikolam, But i'm a nice guy, not a ravaging nomad.14:45
nikolamqwd, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu#Playing_Non-Native_Media_Formats ?14:45
qwdnikolam: am I missing something? from what i can see it's telling me to install mplayer, vlc, w64codecs. I already have those.14:47
vp18i can't install updates from the repository it always says check internet connection on its ok14:47
vp18help\14:47
vp18never mind14:48
nikolamvp18, try changing repository. got o synaptic, choose settings>repositories> Download from14:48
nikolamand do search best serve ri n others14:49
cdavisWhat is the method to create a wireless SP in 12.10?14:49
cdavisoops, wireless AP14:49
nikolamcdavis, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessAccessPoint14:50
foxy999if i log into a oracle virtual box with "remote display" enabled, will it log into the current session of my windows xp machine?14:51
An_Ony_Mooseis there a midi synth that can output to a PC speaker?14:51
nikolamfoxy999, #vbox14:52
foxy999nikolam, thank you14:52
ISOcratesjust installed 12.10 on my desktop and dash is super slow... do i need to install different graphics drivers, or is this just how it is?14:53
ISOcratesmotherboard is M2N68-AM SE214:53
ISOcratesASUS14:53
theadminISOcrates: It normally isn't slow and the motherboard doesn't matter at all... I would suggest using the propertiary video drivers or 2D mode14:54
nikolamAn_Ony_Moose, Question you need to output midi ro wave first. There is software solution for it, but after that, putting wave to speaker have no much sense. Desktops usually have real speakers attached to sound cards, not playing audio on biipper.14:55
nikolamISOcrates, try using xfce14:55
dr_willisISOcrates: what video chipset?14:56
ISOcratestheadmin: ok, just mentioned the mobo because of the integrated graphics, think it's nvidia14:56
ISOcratesnikolam: yeah i may have to, thanks14:56
nikolam(xubuntu-desktop)14:56
theadminISOcrates: Open the "Additional Drivers" tool and see if it finds a video driver.14:56
An_Ony_Mooseniko: WOuld I have to write my own solution then?14:56
BluesKajAn_Ony_Moose, type midi into your package manager , there are some choices/packages there14:56
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ISOcratestheadmin: that's what i was looking for, thanks. trying it now14:56
An_Ony_MooseBluesKaj: thing is I'm interested in outputting to a PC speaker14:57
nikolamAn_Ony_Moose, there is timidity for MIDI14:57
b00b00hi14:58
nikolamAn_Ony_Moose, I am pretty sure there must be some wave to speaker piece of code already14:58
nikolamJust speaker is just too bad for any sound14:58
b00b00i have running dd command that takes too long, any command i can see the status of dd?14:58
dr_willis!info beep14:58
ubottubeep (source: beep): advanced pc-speaker beeper. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3-3 (quantal), package size 23 kB, installed size 78 kB14:58
llutzb00b00: in a 2nd terminal: killall -USR1 dd14:59
BluesKajAn_Ony_Moose, one would think that's a given , but the codec has to be playable14:59
llutzb00b00: should force dd to give a status14:59
dr_willisb00b00: what are you dding exactly?14:59
ray76hi, i have just had 3 capacitors spit there guts out on a nividia 6200 video card, replaced it with a nividia 400mx for now, but my xubuntu drops me in a command prompt no gui. any body help me on how to restart X?14:59
b00b00100gb of disk from 1 linux to another14:59
giraffewhere can i get emerald compiled version for 64 bit version?15:00
dr_willis!emerald15:00
ubottuemerald is an obsolete window decorator for compiz. It's unsupported and unmaintained, making issues with it very hard to diagnose and fix. There are no known, supported alternatives.15:00
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nikolamb00b00, what File systems15:00
dr_willisb00b00: you did give dd a bs= option?15:00
giraffecan you please tell me something about alternatives for emerald?15:01
bubu\aanyone know if I use logrotate to run a weekly log rotate (which uses cron) will it run that at the end of every week i.e. sunday or a week from when I set it?15:01
b00b00nikolam: its a win disk ntfs, its one of the only ways to copy win ami on amazon between regions15:01
dr_willisfactoid says no real alternatives...15:01
b00b00dr_willis: no, didnt15:01
giraffeoh, sorry.15:01
An_Ony_Moosenikolam, there is, in the snd-pcsp kernel module if I understand correctly but I'd ratther have the midi synth beep directly rather than wasting CPU on converting.it twice15:02
dr_williscompiz only has like 3 decorators. the kde one. the gtk one. and emerald.15:02
nikolamb00b00, I would love to have iSCSI locally (even on ntfs) and use ZFS send to replicate it.15:02
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nikolamAn_Ony_Moose, ok.15:03
nikolamb00b00, I was thinking ntfs inside iscsi on zfs volume.15:04
b00b00nikolam: you dont know what you have on Amazon ec2, and cp between regions, takes too long15:04
rimasDoes anyone know erp5 channel?15:05
nikolamb00b00, I would avoid windows on cloud. And stick to ZFS.15:05
b00b00nikolam: you not always can15:05
rimaserp5?15:06
nikolamb00b00, If I put windblows on KVM inside smartos with zfs, yes then.15:06
DJones!alis | rimas You could ask in #freenode, or ask the bot,15:06
ubotturimas You could ask in #freenode, or ask the bot,: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http*15:06
nikolambut hten one could also use Joyent. b00b0015:07
rimasthanks15:07
nikolamit is #ubuntu user support , anyway.15:07
rimashas anyone tried to use erp5 on ubuntu?15:08
bkc_!question | rimas15:09
ubotturimas: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience15:09
ActionParsniprimas: may help https://code.google.com/p/deb4erp5/wiki/HowToRunERP5OnDebian15:09
fairuzI have a weird issue. Downloaded the kernel source code using apt-get source $(uname -r). Copy the config from /boot and use it to compile the kernel. But then, it asks me questions (as like the config is not complete). Do I need to use other config file? I thought I can directly use the config file with the matching kernel source15:10
ActionParsnip!kernel15:10
ubottuThe core of Ubuntu is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, and if you need to troubleshoot issues, you can try a !Mainline kernel instead, but if you insist, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile (see also !Stages)15:10
k_n!Patience15:10
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/15:10
buddha_klkjl15:10
k_n!patience15:11
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/15:11
subone_How do I add a key binding that will be an alias for another key binding? I want to bind ctrl+alt+shift+mousebutton4 to Compiz's Desktop Wall's "Move left with window".15:11
BluesKajrimas, open your package manager and type , openerp15:11
ActionParsnip!info openerp15:11
ubottuPackage openerp does not exist in quantal15:11
ray76and just to say i have done "sudo startx" the bl@@dy thing hangs at *Checking battery state...  [ok]  ..  is startx the correct way?15:12
ActionParsnipthere is openerp6.1-full15:12
ActionParsnipray76: startx runs as user, not root15:12
rimas.DEB package exist for 10.0415:12
ActionParsnipray76: why are you using sudo?15:12
dr_willisyou dont want to use sudo to startx15:12
BluesKaj!openerp-desktop | rimas15:13
ActionParsnip!info openerp-desktop15:13
ubottuopenerp-desktop (source: openerp-desktop): OpenERP Enterprise Resource Management - metapackage. In component universe, is optional. Version 2 (quantal), package size 4 kB, installed size 36 kB15:13
dr_willisray76:  just startx should should work15:13
BluesKaj!info openerp-desktop | rimas15:13
ubotturimas: please see above15:13
ray76ActionParsnip: trouble with reading so many websites all sightly different.15:13
rimasI know openerp15:13
DebolazHmm, empathy doesnt show a bubble counter in the launcher in 12.10, is that normal? It makes it exceedingly difficult to see new messages if they arrive when Im not looking at the screen.15:13
rimasjust erp5 has complete solution I need15:14
BluesKajrimas, it obviously will run on ubuntu , that's what you were asking15:14
rimasI have some troubles with it15:14
rimasfirst I need to install salpos15:15
rimasslapOS15:16
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llutz!details | rimas15:16
ubotturimas: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."15:16
ray76ActionParsnip: cheers, at least it hangs in a different place last line is > saned disabled; /ect/default/saned. any ideas?15:17
ray76dr_willis: cheers15:17
simpleprohey HEY how do i open a .rar file what program do i use15:17
jrib!rar | simplepro15:17
ubottusimplepro: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free15:17
dr_willissimplepro: the unrar package lest the gui archiver work with rars i belive15:18
simpleproythank u15:18
simpleprohugs15:18
ActionParsnipray76: what video chip do you use?15:19
rimasok, I am on ubuntu 12.04 and have installed slapos, because  erp5 recommend to use it, but after I installed it, I get screen with login to slapos: slaposuser1, there no any docs about default passwords. That is a problem15:20
ray76ActionParsnip: it was setup on a nividia 6200, but that blew so i have just put in a nividia 400mx15:20
k_n!ping time out15:21
ubottuk_n: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)15:21
k_n!15:21
designbybeckwhere can i ask questions about Ubuntu Servers15:22
DJonesdesignbybeck: Either here or #ubuntu-server 2nd one may be better, although its a quieter channel15:22
designbybeckah...15:22
designbybeckthank you DJones15:23
spantherixno proprietary hardware driver menu anymore in 12.10? :-)15:23
dr_willisspantherix: its somewhere.. i forget where. ;-)15:23
DJonesspantherix: System Settings -> Additional Drivers15:23
spantherixDJones, don't have "additional drivers"15:24
dr_willisin 12.10 i think synaptic has a menu item for the drivers also15:24
DJonesspantherix: Sorry, just realised this desktop I'm on is 12.0415:25
spantherixnah not a problem :-)15:25
spantherixjust bought my new thinkpad edge E325 with AMD E-450 APU15:25
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xroHi, i would like to use a fiber-channel (hba) card in my HP proliant with ubuntu 12.04 64 server...  dmesg show a qla2xxx. How can i set up the card?15:27
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baskakhello, is it safe to use ubuntu tweak's cleaning function? it found 3gb of unnecessary packages (apt cache etc.), which seems to finally answer my question why is it always, that my ubuntu partition runs out of space15:27
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* dr_willis sees a kick comming15:28
jribbaskak: I would want to know exactly what it wants to remove...15:28
dr_willisbaskak: for cache   apt-get clean      clears it belive15:29
bkc_baskak: the apt cache can safely be purged, the rest I have no idea what it is and thus can't give a proper answer :)15:29
dr_williscache cqn get big.15:29
bkc_indeed15:29
L3topbaskak: sudo apt-get autoclean   will help as well.15:29
baskakmostly apt-cache (2.3 gb), also "unneeded packages", "obsolete kernels", "software center cache"15:30
dr_willisbaskak: all handed by the right apt-get options15:31
jribdr_willis: is there a "nice" way to remove obsolete kernels now?15:31
bkc_obsolete kernels: yes, software center cache: yes, "unneeded packages": maybe15:31
spantherixsudo apt-get autoremove && apt-get clean  <-- this and you're clean :)15:31
baskakL#top: actually i never had a success using apt-get autoclean and similar - always A LOT of debris left. ubuntu tweak is first time i see sizeable removal option15:31
baskakl3top: :)15:32
L3topinfo gdmap | baskak You might also like gdmap. It makes it easy to find huge files/directories.15:32
_val_Hello. Is there an ubuntu precompiled package of oVirt? Anyone15:32
dr_willisubuntu tweak is being discontinued i thougt.15:32
L3top!info gdmap | baskak You might also like gdmap. It makes it easy to find huge files/directories.15:32
ubottubaskak You might also like gdmap. It makes it easy to find huge files/directories.: gdmap (source: gdmap): Tool to visualize diskspace. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.1-2 (quantal), package size 52 kB, installed size 324 kB15:32
baskakdr_willis: it was, but is back15:32
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baskakL3top: disk analyzer it is?15:33
zAo^how can I inscrease the mouse scroll speed?15:33
baskakand what's more, i _saw_ absolete kernels being purged after upgrading to 12.10... quite a few in fact, wth?15:34
L3topbaskak: it just displays everything in a dir and its subdirs as different size/color blocks... so you can easily see huge files/directories15:34
rephy222anyone know how i can do a time based command in bash15:34
baskakL3top: thx, will check15:34
rephy222like in x amount of secounds run xxx15:34
jribrephy222: sleep N; COMMAND15:34
L3topsleep15:34
llutzrephy222: install "at"15:34
rephy222whats at15:36
llutz!info at15:36
ubottuat (source: at): Delayed job execution and batch processing. In component main, is standard. Version 3.1.13-2ubuntu1 (quantal), package size 35 kB, installed size 175 kB15:36
rephy222sleep works fine15:36
dr_willisuse both.... ;-)15:37
rephy222now would that "at" be better if i wanted to run a command at a specific time ..instead of waiting a certain ammount of seconds15:37
baskakdr_willis: ;)15:38
baskakthanks, dudes and dudettes15:38
cordovalbroke my apache with an nginx update15:38
cordovalthanks ubuntu15:38
cordovaldo you speak it?15:38
cordovalanyone else with the same problem? apache broke because of nginx update?15:38
L3toprephy222: that is what cron is for15:39
llutzcron is for repeated jobs, at for running then once "at hh.mm"15:40
llutzthem15:40
rephy222is that another app15:40
rephy222!cron15:40
ubottucron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto15:40
llutzrephy222: cron and at / atd are different programs15:40
llutz(for different tasks)15:41
DX099Hello all, I'd want to try LXDE in Ubuntu 12.10. Any reason to refrain ?15:41
dr_willisDX099: lxde works well15:42
bkc_!lubuntu | DX09915:42
ubottuDX099: lubuntu is Ubuntu with LXDE instead of !GNOME as desktop environment, which makes it extremely lightweight. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu - /join #lubuntu for lubuntu support.15:42
DX099dr_willis: thanks, I was asking because I once tried XFCE in 12.04 and it was crashing several times. I'll give LXDE a try then.15:43
dr_willisintall lubuntu-desktop package.select lubuntu at login...15:43
dr_willisxfce is not  lxde. ;-)15:44
_val_so anyone?15:45
_val_Hello. Is there an ubuntu precompiled package of oVirt? Anyone15:46
ActionParsnipDX099: go for it, LXDE is badass15:46
dr_willis_val_: search for a ppa?15:47
sanguo0023hello,where can i get a help document for XChat?15:48
DX099dr_willis: yes, but it's strange, when installing lubuntu-desktop package, it would pick up several packages that I remember were part of xfce, like 'xfburn15:48
DX099  xfce-keyboard-shortcuts{a} xfce4-notifyd xfce4-power-manager' (http://paste.ubuntu.com/1321094/)15:48
IdleOnesanguo0023: www.xchat.org15:50
vfwsanguo0023: From your fellow XChatters.  (Sorry, couldn't resist.)15:50
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sanguo0023thanks,i get it15:52
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ideafixLogout15:52
dr_willisxchat used to have a nice 'help' menu item....15:53
vfwDX099: xfce crashing?  I've used it for a long time, never experienced crashing?  Are you sure it was xfce that was crashing, or something else?15:53
YIFUgood night ::)15:53
Guest17754cia15:53
Guest17754list15:53
dr_willisno list here Guest1775415:54
sys-ophi15:54
DX099DX099: I didn't investigate any further : each time I would do a certain action, a very simple one, like right-clicking on desktop or in some easy to reach menu, it would crash and reload15:54
dr_willisGuest17754: you always list every channel you join?15:54
DX099vfw:  I didn't investigate any further : each time I would do a certain action, a very simple one, like right-clicking on desktop or in some easy to reach menu, it would crash and reload15:55
sys-opI'm trying to change the keybinding for F1 in terminal15:55
Guest17754ciao!15:55
Guest17754list15:55
somsip!list > Guest1775415:55
ubottuGuest17754, please see my private message15:55
sys-opCurrently it displays the help screen for gnome15:55
sys-opI just want to clear it so I can use the character sequence in irssi15:56
dr_willisGuest17754: you always list every channel you join?...... this is not a file shareing channel15:56
kode_whenever i install for all updates from the package manager in 12.04, i get "Package operation failed " message window at the end of update process. It says "The installation or removal of a software package failed " what should i do to get rid of it??15:56
blazemorekode_: sudo apt-get -f install15:56
vfwDX099: That's interesting.  I'd like to have been in on trying to trouble-shoot that incident.15:56
dr_willissys-op: you mean in gnome-terminal?15:56
Guest17754ciao!15:56
Guest17754list15:57
sys-opyes sir, dr_willis15:57
DX099vfw: I'll be retrying to reproduce that in some hours15:57
dr_willisGuest17754:  this is not a file shareing channel15:57
vfwDX099: Ok, good.  It's just that I've had such good service from xfce across several releases and it's always worked pretty much flawlessly.15:58
DX099vfw, also  why is Lubuntu installing some packages obviously xfce-related ? (http://paste.ubuntu.com/1321094/) see at the end15:58
kode_blazemore: i tried installing cheese from terminal by the commnads but then it says: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)15:58
anevare there ways to modify the log priority levels in ubuntu?15:58
blazemorekode_: Could you run sudo apt-get -f install in a terminal, and copy the output into http://paste.ubuntu.com15:58
dr_willisDX099: because they liked the xfce tools...15:58
anevsomething in /proc maybe?15:58
anevs/priority/verbose/115:58
dr_willisxfburn is nice and quick15:59
DX099ok15:59
blazemoreDX099: I would assume that because LXDE lacks a few graphical config tools, the Lubuntu team decided to go with ones from XFCE instead15:59
kode_blazemore: did it.16:00
blazemorekode_: ...and? what's the link?16:01
blazemoreIs there a "paste" bot command because I get this *a lot* in here?16:01
kode_blazemore: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1321129/16:01
blazemorety16:01
vfwDX099: I don't know, but xde is a bit limited on it's on and I would assume it is to make up for those defenciencies.16:02
theadminblazemore: Sure, it's !paste or !pastebin16:02
AlstreimHi! I'll be installing Ubuntu first time in years on my new PC and I wander if I should go with 32 or 64 bit version, any help?16:02
rusfushi, I do not know why today I began to appear Blueman applet 1.23, and I can not remove it. someone I can 'help?16:02
theadminAlstreim: new pc -> 64bit16:02
wols_Alstreim: what cpu and how much RAM?16:02
DX099alright, I'll be trying it16:03
blazemorekode_: The problem there is that the Samba package is having some problems, it's only that, not related to any other application you're trying to install16:03
AlstreimIntel i716:03
wols_Alstreim: get the amd64 ISO16:03
blazemorekode_: It was a known bug and has apparently now been fixed. What happens if you run "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade"16:03
vfwDX099: Ubuntu developers must have realized that in the areas of keyboard shortcuts and power management, xde was defecient and needed those packages to makeup for shortcomings.  [/ASSUMPTIONS]16:03
kode_blazemore: for any application m trying to install its giving the same error i pasted.16:04
area51pilotsudo gedit fstab16:04
blazemorekode_: I know, that's because every time you install an application, it goes back and tries to install the "samba" package which never finished installing16:04
kode_blazemore: i have tried that but it does not work.16:04
blazemorekode_: try sudo chmod +x /usr/share/samba/setoption.p16:04
vfw*lxde16:04
blazemoreAnd then sudo apt-get -f install16:04
kode_blazemore: ok.. let me do it.16:05
sys-opHave any of you tried Hybryde Evolution?16:05
area51pilotI get an error stating unable to mount /media/sda3 on startup, Press S to skip or M for Manual?16:05
area51pilotits an NTFS partition with Data16:06
kode_blazemore: this is the result::   chmod: cannot access `/usr/share/samba/setoption.p': No such file or directory16:06
Alstreimwols_: Why amd not the standard one?16:06
blazemorearea51pilot: /media/sda3? Sounds dodgy16:06
blazemorekode_: try sudo chmod +x /usr/share/samba/setoption.pl16:06
blazemoresorry typo16:06
wols_Alstreim: cause that's the only one for your cpu16:06
Alstreimok16:06
area51pilotblazenmore?16:06
blazemorearea51pilot: Please paste the result of running "cat /etc/fstab" into http://paste.ubuntu.com and then paste the resulting URL in this channel16:07
Alstreimfair enough16:07
area51pilotblazemore:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1321153/16:08
kode_blazemore: its the same error again : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1321129/16:09
blazemorearea51pilot: OK now what happens if you run "sudo mount -o remount /dev/sda3"16:09
blazemorekode_: Do you know why you installed samba?16:09
area51pilotblazemore: its already mounted16:10
blazemorekode_: I'd go with the nuclear approach: sudo apt-get --purge remove samba416:10
kode_blazemore: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1321158/  this is the new error.16:10
blazemorearea51pilot: Then what's the problem16:10
blazemorekode_: That's the same error16:11
area51pilotI get the error on startup... not sure why though16:11
area51pilottiming issue?16:11
blazemorekode_: Sort of16:11
area51pilotis there a way to get rid of the warning16:11
manx_join #ubuntu-cn16:12
rusfushelp me!! pls hi, I do not know why today I began to appear Blueman applet 1.23, and I can not remove it. someone I can 'help?16:12
blazemorearea51pilot: Not sure I'm google-fu-ing now16:12
kode_blazemore: did it. should i now try to install something?16:12
blazemorekode_: yeah try sudo apt-get -f install16:13
ActionParsniparea51pilot: when did you last chkdsk the NTFS partition?16:13
rusfusI do not understand what may serve16:13
blazemoreActionParsnip: good call16:13
manx_please ,tell me ,what join ubuntu-cn ? thinks16:13
blazemorerusfus: Do you know what blueman applet is? You want to remove it, yes?16:13
ActionParsnipmanx_: type:     /join #ubuntu-cn16:13
ActionParsnipmanx_: same for any channel16:14
vfwActionParsnip: And sometimes you need to run it a couple times before you clear things up. [/FYI]16:14
area51piloti was newly installed a few days ago, but ran ntfs-config to set it to automount and I get this error on startup16:14
manx_thinks !!!16:14
blazemorearea51pilot: Reboot into Windows. Schedule a checkdisk for the next reboot on that drive. Then reboot and let it do its thing, then reboot AGAIN into Windows16:14
area51pilotok16:14
area51pilotill try and be back ... thx blazemore16:15
blazemoreThe last step is somehow important16:15
ActionParsniparea51pilot: tick both baxes in the check for errors dialogue to do a full check16:15
blazemorerusfus: I can help you in here, not in a private message16:15
area51pilotActionParsnip ... will  do16:15
vfwActionParsnip: area51pilot And if you do the full check, be patient, it may take a LONG time.16:15
voldymanguys i am trying to build a firefox extension called firesheep. cant find needed package libxul16:15
ActionParsnipworth it though. Do it overnight16:15
blazemorerusfus: you could try running "sudo apt-get remove blueman" in a terminal16:15
ActionParsnip!find libxul16:16
rusfusblazemore ok sorry16:16
ubottuFile libxul found in firefox, firefox-dbg, thunderbird, thunderbird-dbg, thunderbird-dev16:16
blazemorevoldyman: Firesheep doesn't work on Linux does it?16:16
voldymanblazemore, it does16:16
voldymanjust need some packages16:16
rusfusI do not know what I might be useful16:16
blazemorevoldyman: Have you read this? http://randommusingsofarealgeek.blogspot.co.uk/2010/11/firesheep-on-linux.html16:16
rusfusok tanks blazemore16:17
An_Ony_Moosehow can I lower the latency of the timidity daemon?16:17
kode_blazemore: thanks a lot.16:18
erictr1ckso i added Pidgin to the Systray whitelist in 12.10, but the pidgin notification icon only shows up in one of my dual monitors' systrays. How can I get it to display in both like the other icons?16:18
blazemorekode_: Fixed?16:18
voldymanblazemore, apt-cache search libxul no results16:18
kode_blazemore: ya..am not getting that error. bt i was trying to install cheese, it installed successfully, bt its not opening.16:19
blazemorekode_: Run cheese from a terminal you might get some more useful errors16:19
blazemoreAn_Ony_Moose: Try running timidity with the -iA -B2,8 -Os options16:19
ramoni have ubuntu precise and doesnt read extermanal memory card (not USB) so is there any program i need to install in order to get it to read them?16:19
tarzeauramon: what is it, if not usb?16:20
blazemoreramon: You have a card-reader in your laptop? What is the model of your laptop?16:20
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birdmani have a question16:20
blazemore!ask16:21
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience16:21
ramonis my desktop and i am inserting a memory card from a camera but doesnt not read it16:21
kode_blazemore: ya... http://paste.ubuntu.com/1321176/16:21
blazemoreOK that actually looks like a bug, kode_16:21
birdman!ask how do i get the onboard sound to work on a hp 2000 notebook16:21
ubottubirdman: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)16:21
L3topbirdman: how are you connecting audio to what?16:22
rimasasla for sound16:22
birdmanspeakers to to thingama gig ona  hp 2000 notebook16:22
L3topbirdman: eg hdmi/analog... etc16:22
vfw!sound | birdman16:22
ubottubirdman: If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.16:22
blazemorebirdman: open a terminal and then run the following three commands16:22
blazemoresudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-audio-dev/ppa16:22
blazemoresudo apt-get update16:22
blazemoresudo apt-get install linux-alsa-driver-modules-$(uname -r)16:22
ramoni meant i do have a slot where i can insert the memory card16:22
L3topwhat sort of thingamagig birdman16:23
ActionParsnipbirdman: what is the output of:    wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh16:23
ActionParsnipramon: does the system have a make and model?16:23
ramontarzeau, are you still there?16:23
L3topI am not sure installing experimental drivers is the catch all answer to audio probs...16:23
blazemoreramon: Did you build your desktop or do you have a make and model?16:23
tarzeauramon: yep16:23
cpruittHey guys, I have a very big problem and this is not my wheelhouse.  I've accidentally set sudo chmod o-rx / and now my production system is hosed.  Is this recoverable?  I don't have physical access to the box at the moment but I can if needed.16:23
ramonis a HPP Pavilion16:23
tarzeauramon: about the beamer?16:24
blazemoreL3top: audio is supported out of the box on that laptop for recent ubuntus. it's only 10.10 and below that require the backported driver16:24
vfwL3top: One thing is sure;  If you don't do anything, you won't fix anything.16:24
blazemoreramon: There are a lot of HP pavilions, do you have a model number?16:24
ramonbeamer?16:24
L3topblazemore: the backport exists without a PPA.16:24
k_nI am on Ubuntu 12.04. I want to use ipython notebook but after installing EPD, I get the following error: `The IPython Notebook requires tornado >= 2.1.0`.16:24
blazemoreAn example would be "HP Pavillion g6" or something16:24
k_nHow do I update tornado...?16:25
ActionParsnip!ppa | k_n16:25
ubottuk_n: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge16:25
ramonblazemore, a1500la16:25
birdmanadd apt not found?16:25
blazemorebirdman: add-apt-repository16:25
blazemorewith the hyphens16:25
ActionParsnipbirdman: if you copy and paste instead of trying to type it, you'll get it right16:26
tiger_eye_hey, I just did a clean install of ubuntu 12.10 with whole-disk encryption (except boot), and I get "evms_activate is not available" upon trying to boot16:26
vfwk_n: sudo apt-get upgrade bittornado16:26
ActionParsnip!info tornado16:27
ubottuPackage tornado does not exist in quantal16:27
ActionParsnip!find tornado16:27
ubottuFound: bittornado, bittornado-gui, python-tornado, python3-tornado16:27
tiger_eye_is there any way around this?  how can I "insmod crypto" into the kernel if I can't boot the system?16:27
area51pilotblazemore: there is a file /etc/fstab.BAK that looks like the original file backup. What would be the proper way to revert to that file if my file system check doesnt correcct the mount issue?16:28
k_nvfw: Thank you. Looks like I'd need python(3)-tornado...16:28
area51piloti  can do w/o auto mounting the NTFS file system16:28
blazemorearea51pilot: you would "sudo mv /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.broken && sudo mv /etc/fstab.BAK /etc/fstab"16:28
vfwk_n: Ok, well there you go....16:29
blazemorearea51pilot: Basically the /etc/fstab file is what describes partition mounts, so whatever is in there is what will be mounted on boot16:29
ActionParsniptiger_eye_: boot to liveCD, mount the storage partition and add the command to /etc/rc.local on the installed OS above the 'exit 0' line16:29
kthi16:29
area51pilotblazemore: thx I understand that but have never had to really mess with it so far   :P  so im being cautious16:29
blazemorearea51pilot: Make a liveCD before you go messing around with stuff you're not 100% confident about16:30
L3topvfw I have plenty of do available. I am not fond of that particular do.16:30
tiger_eye_thanks, ActionParsnip.  by the command, you mean "insmod crypto", right?  live CD already booted, will report back in a bit...16:30
blazemorearea51pilot: That way if you break something you can just boot from the liveCD and copy the backup back16:30
k_n!info pyzmq16:30
ubottuPackage pyzmq does not exist in quantal16:30
ramoni am using ubuntu precise on a desktop HP Pavilion a1500la and i am inserting a 4GB memory card (SD-K04G) but ubuntu doesnt read it so i would like to know if i need to install any program16:30
k_n!find pyzmq16:30
blazemoreGood question ramon :)16:31
ubottuFile pyzmq found in python-zmq, python3-zmq16:31
area51pilotblazemore: thx ... i just clean installed 12.04 and 7 this weekend ... would like to avoid cloning the drive back :)16:31
L3topramon: my hp laptop does not like reading certain camera cards either. I have not cared enough to look for a solution. one sec.16:32
sviproot can play sound, but I cannot.  Is some process stealing my sound device?16:33
ActionParsniptiger_eye_: whatever you run, add it there. The command runs as root16:33
blazemoreramon: Could you please run the command "lspci && echo "--" && lsusb" in a terminal, and then paste the output into http://paste.ubuntu.com and put the link in here?16:33
area51pilotblazemore; Ill paste the BAK file before I do anything and maybe you guys can verify for me it looks valid16:33
ActionParsnipsvip: what is the output of: groups     as your user?16:33
blazemore!paste | area51pilot16:33
ubottuarea51pilot: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.16:33
svipActionParsnip: I was able to play sound a few moments ago.  So I doubt my groups has changed.16:33
ramonblazemore, ok16:34
vfwL3top: Neither am I an advocate of backports.16:34
blazemoreIn my experience, sound on Linux only works once you've recited the necessary incantations (or rebooted)16:34
ActionParsnipsvip: as your user, run:   killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*     wait 10 seconds then reboot16:34
vfwsvip: What error do you get?16:34
svipvfw: None, just no sound.16:34
wilee-nileeramon, Have you started the computer with the card in, I have a acer that does not always read those cards when just inserted.16:35
svipActionParsnip: I don't use PulseAudio.16:35
vfwsvip: play /usr/share/sounds/alsa/*16:35
ramonwilee-nilee, i did try that already though16:35
vfwsvip: ... and tell us what errors you get.16:35
svipvfw: Indeed; no sound.  But if I put sudo in front, plenty of sound.16:36
vfwsvip: ... or paste it if it's more than one line.16:36
svipALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:1018:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave16:36
svipALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:1018:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave16:36
svipGoddamn it.16:36
FloodBot1svip: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.16:36
vfwsvip: did you issue the above command as normal user?  If so, what error did you get?16:36
vfwsvip: pastebinit16:37
An_Ony_Mooseblazemore: doesn't seem to do anything if I run it as myself. Do I need to sudo -u timidity it?16:37
svipvfw: I use aplay.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1321234/16:37
ActionParsnipsvip: what is the output of:    wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh16:37
DX099I just installed and logged in lxde session, lots of crashes. ntfs-3g was first, then gnome-mplayer though i didn't try to open it, then compiz repeatedly crashes16:40
DX099vfw, I just installed and logged in lxde session, lots of crashes. ntfs-3g was first, then gnome-mplayer though i didn't try to open it, then compiz repeatedly crashes16:40
blazemoreAn_Ony_Moose: I actually don't know anything about timidity. How do you usually run the daemon?16:40
ramonblazemore,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1321241/16:41
birdmanit says try wget --help16:41
jvalentinmaybe it's just me, but installing apache2 on ubuntu is harder than I recall. Was installed, but not managing virtual hosts as expected so reinstalled, and it didn't create httpd config file or sites-available or enabled directories. I followed guides, but Is there a known issue?16:41
svipActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1321242/ This.16:41
blazemoreSorry ramon I can't help you16:42
blazemorejvalentin: You are looking in /etc/apache2/sites-available/ ?16:42
ramonblazemore, thank you ayways16:42
jvalentinyes16:42
blazemore(TIL irssi has tab-completion for filenames, which made my day)16:42
jvalentinblazemore, yes, that's exactly right16:43
blazemoreAnd you installed the apache2 package?16:43
logictheoThe page at http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201010-6649/ recommends the Ubuntu 12.04 LTS 64-bit edition, but it doesn't work. Only the 32-bit version worked.16:43
itshi16:43
vfwsvip: Looks like it played without error.  Run alsamixer and see if anything is turned down or muted.16:44
itsI have a problem with ubuntu and am new to it , can any1 help me plz16:44
logictheoIf none cares about this issue just more users will be mislead and possibly consider Ubuntu unprofessional.16:44
blazemoresvip: 90% of the time the "PCM" channel is muted16:44
area51blazemore: can you or someone take a look a this fstab.BAK file and see if it looks valid:   http://paste.ubuntu.com/1321251/16:44
svipvfw: There isn't.  But since it works with root, can I not already confirm that?16:44
tiger_eye_ActionParsnip, I'm not sure I understand your suggestion.  If root can't even be decrypted, then '/etc/rc.local' will never get called16:45
blazemorearea51: Looks kosher from here16:45
svipblazemore: I cannot even mute the PCM channel.16:45
area51blazemore: does it look like it will mount sda3?16:45
blazemorearea51: I'd recommend changing /dev/sda3 for a UUID though16:45
tiger_eye_isn't it funky that, you know, a new install with full-disk encryption isn't even able to boot: "evms_activate is not available"?16:45
svipBut the three that matters; MAster Front, PCM and Front are all unmuted.  And above 20 each.16:45
jvalentinblazemore, yes, apt-get install apache2* is what I ran16:46
jvalentinI get unmet dependencies errors16:47
svipvfw: Users don't have different sound channel levels in my experience, at least not in alsamixer.16:47
area51blazemore: I dont want to mount sda3 ... this is the NTFS partition i get the mount error on during boot16:47
logictheoBy the way I've done the Ubuntu friendly thing. Does anyone know where I can see the results? Are they hosted on some Ubuntu site?16:47
Sedatedanybody familiar with using the mini install cd image in a virtual machine?  there's no option to install a minimal virtual machine like there is with the full installer.  how do i get the virtual kernel installed instead of the normal server one?16:47
An_Ony_Mooseblazemore: it runs as a daemon, as the user timidity16:47
blazemorearea51: Try changing /dev/sda3 in /etc/fstab with UUID=xxxxx where xxxxx is obtained through "sudo blkid"16:47
its I have 2 problems and an new to ubuntu :) > #1: I cant login to ubuntu from my adminstraitor account, but I can >    login from the guest account . I tried to make a new adminstrator >    account from the guest account and it works  but i still have the >    problem with my main account , even after I upgarde from 12.04 to >    12.10 still the same problem .. > -------- > #2:  when I try to login to Ubuntu software  center it show a d16:48
blazemorearea51: I thought your problem was you get an error during boot with /dev/sda3?16:48
area51blazemore: on line 17?16:48
blazemoresorry?16:48
area51yes ... i do get the error16:48
svipI mean; if I crank up PCM as my own user, root will also have cPCM cranked up.16:48
trismtiger_eye_: according to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cryptsetup/+bug/957602/comments/3 that message probably isn't why you can't boot16:48
ubottuLaunchpad bug 957602 in cryptsetup (Ubuntu) "cryptsetup: evms_activate is not available" [Low,Triaged]16:48
vfwsvip: play /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav 2>&1 |pastebinit  #And send resulting URL16:49
jvalentinblazemore, after I get the unmet dependencies list, I try and install each of those manually, but not sure if that's enough, and then still no httpd conf file anywhere16:49
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vfwsvip: Or:  play /usr/share/sounds/alsa/* 2>&1 |pastebinit  #And send resulting URL16:49
area51blazemore: this is the result of blkid: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1321267/16:49
jvalentinthe /etc/apache2 directory only has a mods-available dir in it, nothing else16:50
blazemorejvalentin: That sounds weird16:50
jvalentinthat doesn't seem correct, altho I don't know if it has changed in 12.x16:50
blazemorejvalentin: Try sudo apt-get install --reinstall apache216:50
blazemoreYou probably already did16:50
blazemoreI'm running 12.10 on this server right now and I installed apache just fine16:51
tiger_eye_trism, I would like that comment even more if it had an explanation, likely fix, or references16:51
area51blazemore should i change lines 12 & 17 from /dev/sda3 to the UUID=22B4AD8CB4AD635116:51
jvalentinI didn't do a reinstall, I did a remove and then install again16:51
svipvfw: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1321272/http://paste.ubuntu.com/1321272/16:51
blazemorearea51: Any reference to /dev/sda3 should be replaced with UUID=22B4AD8CB4AD635116:51
blazemorejvalentin: Try sudo apt-get --purge remove apache216:51
blazemorethen reinstall16:51
area51ok16:51
area51thx16:52
blazemore(assuming that is the UUID you got from sudo blkid)16:52
jvalentinhmm, tried reinstall and got "E: Invalid Operation apache2"16:52
vfwsvip: As you can see, it is playing.  Did you run alsamixer?16:52
svipvfw: Yes.16:52
jvalentinpurge is in process16:53
blazemorejvalentin: It's apt-get install --reinstall apache216:53
vfwsvip: It is playing, you are just not hearing anything from the speakers.  I dont' know why but that is what is happening.16:53
blazemorenot apt-get --reinstall apache216:53
jvalentinyes, I'd tried but got the error, but purge worked16:53
svipvfw: o_O wtf.  Alsa required side to be unmuted.16:54
jvalentinso, should I run apt-get install apache*16:54
MonkeyDustjvalentin  it's apache216:54
vfwsvip: Look at alsamixer window and see that nothing is muted or turned down. (MM at bottom of a channel means it is mutted and m toggles mute on or off).16:54
blazemoreif that's what you want, I'd jsut install apache2 personally16:54
area51blazemore: one last look pleae?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1321281/16:54
svipvfw: Well, at least, now it is working.  Thanks for the help anyway.  I just did not think I needed side or surround as I haven't needed those in the past.16:54
area51b4 i replace with this last file16:55
vfwsvip: move from one channel to another with the right or left arrows.  m  will toggle muting on or off.16:55
navalastroyeray16:55
navalastrosassassasa16:55
navalastroasssaas16:55
navalastroasass16:55
navalastroasas16:55
navalastros16:55
FloodBot1navalastro: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.16:55
navalastroas16:55
MonkeyDustnavalastro  it works, you're in16:56
jvalentinok, did that (just installed apache2), but the /etc/apache2 dir still only has mods-available in it16:56
logictheoEarlier I asked for help about the page at http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201010-6649/ recommending 64-bit. Taking a closer look I reported the issue, so it's not an issue anymore.16:56
vfwsvip: When you have no sound, first check to see if it is just muted or turned down.  [For future reference.]16:56
blazemorelogictheo: By "earlier" you mean 3 minutes ago16:56
navalastrode mierda16:56
logictheoblazemore: Yeah, 3 minutes ago.16:56
blazemoreTry asking again in a few hours or tomorrow16:56
mN-Anyone have the problem with 64bit ubuntu that it flashes with a blend of commandlines and ubuntu load screen in thebeginning and doesnt start until u hit ESC16:57
logictheono, not16:57
logictheo13 minutes ago16:57
L3topok16:57
blazemorelogictheo: My point still stands. If I don't get an answer I usually wait until a different timezone is awake16:57
blazemorelogictheo: It's not really a question so much either. is there a link on the page to report mistakes?16:57
logictheoblazemore: Yes, it said "If there is an issue with the information for this system, please let us know."16:58
blazemoreWell do that then16:58
mN-1. How do I get 120hz with Ubuntu 64bit?  2. Is there anyway to remove mouse acceleration?16:58
logictheoblazemore: I did. That's why I came here to say that I succeeded.16:58
blazemoreCongratulations :)16:58
jvalentinblazemore, is the etc/apache2 supposed to have more in it after installing apache2, or am I supposed to create the httpd.conf and sites-available &  sites-enabled ?16:58
logictheo...and that I no longer need help in that regard.16:58
blazemorejvalentin: it's supposed to have sites-available sites-enabled etc16:59
wols_jvalentin: there should be more in it. had you installed apache2 before?16:59
jvalentinyes, on different machines16:59
jvalentinalways worked fine16:59
wols_no, only important if on this one16:59
wols_!confmiss16:59
jvalentineven on ubuntu 11x and earlier16:59
wols_most stuff in there is put there by apache2.2-common IIRC16:59
logictheoblazemore: Do you know anything about the https://friendly.ubuntu.com/ site? Can I rate there? There are ratings for 1 to 5 stars.17:00
jvalentinso I'm trying to see if there's another method of installing for 12x17:00
StockHunterjust need to know the command that displays system info for ubuntu server, anyone know it?17:00
blazemorelogictheo: I've never heard of it17:00
gnuskoolis amazon shopping still in the new ubuntu?17:00
blazemorejvalentin: This channel is full of Ubuntu users who are just like you, you know. We don't work for canonical or anything17:00
bazhang!adlens | gnuskool17:01
logictheoblazemore: Are you interested to learn about it?17:01
ubottugnuskool: If you wish not to see "More Suggestions" from places like Amazon in your Ubuntu 12.10, simply remove the package unity-lens-shopping, or adjust your Privacy settings as shown here: http://goo.gl/kFO4u . Mark Shuttleworth's blog entry on this is at http://goo.gl/uF7zZ17:01
blazemoreApologies f there's anyone in here who actually does work for canonical17:01
Debolazgnuskool: Yes.17:01
blazemorelogictheo: Not really, I don't use ubuntu17:01
logictheoblazemore: Alright, but would you like to use Ubuntu?17:01
blazemorelogictheo: No17:01
blazemoreI did use Ubuntu from 6.06 to 10.1017:01
logictheoblazemore: Hmm, do you use any system that has linux the kernel in it?17:01
blazemorelogictheo: I use Debian17:02
blazemore(at work) - and Chakra (based on Arch) at home17:02
gnuskoolbazhang: cheers17:02
bazhanglogictheo, this is not the channel for polls17:02
blazemore#ubuntu-offtopic I'm happy to continue the discussion17:02
logictheobazhang: Do you use Ubuntu or do you use Debian too?17:02
jvalentinblazemore, sorry if I implied that I expected that, was merely hoping someone else had similar experience or knowledge of why apt-get isn't installing as expected17:02
DebolazMeh, I fear its going to require a lot of debugging to figure out why empathy broke in 12.10. :/17:02
logictheook, I'll get to Ubuntu offtopic17:02
bazhanglogictheo, I just told you not to poll here, thanks17:03
jvalentinI wasn't sure how to use the software center to install apache, I didn't find it in the list17:03
logictheobazhang: and I respected your post17:03
logictheoby saying I'll gladly go to the offtopic channel17:03
gnuskooljvalentin, in older versions of ubuntum you simply selected to view installation types and chose lamp server17:04
DebolazIs anyone else here using empathy in 12.10 and not getting any message counter in the launcher icon?17:04
gnuskooljvalentin, from within the software centre, dunno about the new version though17:05
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simion314hi, my apot seems broken http://pastebin.com/2BaSeiqN   how can I fix it?17:06
blazemoresimion314: sudo apt-get -f install17:06
simion314blazemore: it fails,see in there17:06
blazemoreOh lol, sorry simion314 I'm so used to saying that...17:07
blazemoresimion314: What version od Ubuntu are you running?17:07
gnuskooljvalentin, if all else fails, in cmd line sudo apt-get install lamp-server17:07
simion314blazemore: 12.04 64bit17:07
blazemoreGot it - sudo apt-get remove skype skype-bin17:08
blazemoreThen do what you need to do, then work on installing Skype17:08
tiger_eye_alright, I think I'll do another re-install without RAID.  The standard Live CD installation can do full-drive encryption and LVM, right?17:08
blazemoresimion314: To install Skype correctly; sudo apt-add-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ $(lsb_release -sc) partner"17:09
simion314blazemore: thx17:09
tiger_eye_oh, and I hope it's straightforward to migrate a non-RAID system to RAID1.  anybody got a decent reference or warnings about this?17:09
REdOGhow do I set a service to comeup after networking has been established?17:09
vfwREdOG: Since you need to wait until networking is up, you might just want to put it in /etcrc.local17:10
vfw*/etc/rc.local17:10
blazemorethat's /etc/rc.local17:10
blazemoregah17:10
vfwblazemore: Thanks  :)17:10
blazemoreOK I'm going home, I don't think I'm in the middle of helping anyone at the moment, but if I'm wrong call me out17:11
REdOGvfw, k thanks17:11
vfwNP17:11
gnuskoolwhy so few ppl nowadys?17:11
mN-1. How do I get 120hz with Ubuntu 64bit? 2. Is there anyway to remove mouse acceleration?17:11
vfwblazemore: okeydokey :)17:11
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mN-regarding 1. I tried finding Xconf from X11 directory but no luck in a17:12
Pumpkin-mN-: xset <someoptions> for the mouse accel17:12
Pumpkin-not exactly sure what ones17:13
yggdrasilhi, i havea lenovo w510 and a docking station, i can get two monitors to work fine but when it ry to use 3 (the laptop screen iteslf ) it fails.. i have nvidia drivers ..17:14
area51blazemore: thx for your help ... i discovered I needed to comment out the 2nd entry for /media/sda3 stop the boot msg.17:14
area511st entry UUID mounts the NTFS media17:15
jvalentingnuskool, thanks, but I got "sudo apt-get install lamp-server"17:16
FireStormsHi, I 'invested' in a 1TB External HDD. The HDD is formatted as NTFS, I'm wondering if it's best to leave it as that or should I format it to ext3; would there be a benefit. I use Ubuntu 10.0417:17
XiaolinDraconisi have a startconky.sh script that runs just fine when i dbl click it, however i get an internal error when it is set to run at start up17:17
MonkeyDustFireStorms  if it's just for file storage, you can safely use ntfs17:17
vfwFireStorms: ext417:17
blazemoreFireStorms: If you only use Ubuntu, then yes you should format it as ext3 or something similar. However, if you want to be able to plug it into a Windows system and have it work, you'll need NTFS17:17
vfwFireStorms: Are you installing Ubuntu on it?17:18
FireStormsvfw, no just file storage17:18
FireStormsblazemore, very good point, I think I'll leave it as it is then, thanks :)17:18
vfwFireStorms: What do you have now? (How large is /home partition?)17:18
vfwFireStorms: Are you dual boot?17:18
XiaolinDraconisor fat3217:19
vfwFireStorms: Is your system dual boot?17:19
vfwFireStorms: As XiaolinDraconis points out, fat32 may be better.17:21
XiaolinDraconisi have a startconky.sh script that runs just fine when i dbl click it, however i get an internal error when it is set to run at start up17:21
carestadis there a way to get ecryptfs to mount with suid?17:21
carestadand, now that I first stumbled in here: anyone else having trouble with installing wine in theiry x64 setup?17:22
FireStormsvfw, sorry yes I'm dual boot 160GB HDD 100GB to Ubuntu remainder Windows lol17:23
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* FireStorms looksup fat3217:23
XiaolinDraconiscarestad, try PlayOnLinux, its a wine frontend that makes installing various apps a lot easier17:23
wols_!errors | carestad17:23
ubottucarestad: If you have problems or errors, you will need to describe/paste them. Please use the !pastebin for errors that cannot be quoted in a single IRC message17:23
steven-try crossover for linux17:24
steven-which is free for today..17:24
carestadsteven-: yup, tried that17:24
carestadI get a lot of dependency errors17:24
carestadwith both wine, crossover and ia32-libs, when trying to install them17:24
ActionParsnipcarestad: try:   sudo apt-get -f install17:24
vfwFireStorms: Well, if you intend to share files, yea, NTFS or FAT32.  (I recommend FAT32)17:24
carestadActionParsnip: yes, that doesn't work17:24
steven-thats weird, i just installed crossover a couple of minutes ago17:25
ActionParsnipcarestad: did you try the wine ppa?17:25
carestadI've tried with a fresh install of Ubuntu as well - the same happens17:25
steven-did you use the softwarecenter or commandline?17:25
quemnot too satisfied with 12.10 so far. xorg is a massive resource hog, gnome-panel segfaults, constant crashes and the proprietary ati driver doesn't work17:25
carestadsteven-: both + I installed synaptic and tried there17:25
quemanyone know any remedies for any of this?17:25
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thealphanerdanyone playing with ubuntu on the nexus 7?17:25
vfwFireStorms: http://cquirke.mvps.org/ntfs.htm17:25
steven-whats the error message anyway?17:25
ActionParsnipquem: if you use a different desktop, is it ok?17:26
VlanYso guys, does 12.10 of ubuntu enforce any cloud features?17:26
k1l_thealphanerd: there is more chance in the dev channel #ubuntu-arm17:26
carestadActionParsnip steven- XiaolinDraconis I have created a question at askubuntu.com: http://askubuntu.com/questions/210054/cant-install-wine-or-ia32-libs-in-ubuntu-12-10-64-bit17:26
ActionParsnipVlanY: doesn't enforce anything, you can use it as you please17:26
quemActionParsnip: as in desktop environment on this machine? haven't tried17:26
thealphanerdk1l_: ohh devy!!! thanks buddy!17:26
quemhaven't tried 12.10 on any other system yet17:26
quemand 12.04 worked perfectly. no complaints there.17:27
ActionParsnipquem: may be just Gnome being weird17:27
quem:/17:27
cha0s_any way to play H264 - MPEG-4 avc video format on ubuntu?17:27
VlanYActionParsnip: you mean as 12.04 ?  cause i've heard that windows8 does enforce cloud environment.  If also linux starts doing that...17:27
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quemcha0s_: doesn't it out of the box?17:28
ActionParsnipcha0s_: install ubuntu-restricted-extras vlc gnome-mplayer and w32codecs you should be able to play most things17:28
cha0s_not as of yet but will install now17:28
k1l_VlanY: no.17:28
ActionParsnipVlanY: in Linux you have choice17:28
MonkeyDustVlanY  freedom of choice is one of the differences between win and lin17:29
VlanYActionParsnip: i seriously hope it stays like this forever, since now i'm dead on linux...17:29
FireStormsvfw thank you for the link17:30
FireStormsthanks guys!17:30
HarisHello all17:30
HarisI need a very basic kickstart file or seed file for ubuntu 11.1 install17:30
cha0s_ActionParsnip: how do i install the w32codecs?17:30
VlanYonly last question, how can i check the current version ov the kernel that i'm using?  Cause i've been told to upgrade to 3.517:31
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cha0s_ActionParsnip: not in software center17:31
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HulkHoganVlanY: uname -a17:31
ActionParsnipVlanY: should do. Its one of the founding principles17:31
Harisneed the base OS installed, with editors. and that's all. nothing big17:31
ActionParsnipcha0s_: you need the medibuntu ppa adding17:31
cha0s_ActionParsnip: How do I do this? I'm not that knowledgeable17:32
wilee-nileeHaris, would the mini cd net install work?17:32
HarisI downloaded the server image for 11.10. Is that the same thing ?17:33
ActionParsnipcha0s_: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=medibuntu    too hard? I'm VERY sure you've done that before.....17:33
Harisand imported that into cobbler17:33
FrozenFireAnyone happen to know what handle Chris Coulson goes by on Freenode?17:33
wilee-nileeHaris, no the mini loads what you want, the base and choice of servers I believe and desktops as well.17:33
HulkHoganHaris: the alternative cd17:34
wilee-nileeHaris, here is the link take a look. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD17:34
hermann482440009727937417:34
zoraelDoes anyone know what the sysfs equavilent of /proc/acpi/wakeup is?17:34
wilee-nileeI think the alternative loads the desktop though17:35
ActionParsnipVlanY: to see the kernel version, run:   uname -r17:35
ActionParsnipwilee-nilee: it does, its been removed in Quatal17:35
ActionParsnip*Quantal17:35
Hariscan it be built upon by adding more packages to be a full blown box ?17:35
mN-How to get 120hz in ubuntu 64bit? Cant find X.conf in X11 (nvidia)17:35
wilee-nileeActionParsnip, The user wnts 11.1017:35
ActionParsnipHaris: yes, that's what it is for17:35
ActionParsnipwilee-nilee: sweet17:36
Haristhe word "user" reminded me of tron17:36
ActionParsnipwilee-nilee: with support ending in April next year. Is it worth it?17:36
wilee-nileeActionParsnip, I wouldn't think so, but I don't always mention the eol date, most of the time I do..17:37
Harishttp://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/mini.iso <- this one is pretty pretty small, I must say17:37
kafee786hi17:38
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ActionParsnipHaris: very but it installs very little, but you can build up and make a tight punchy OS17:38
wilee-nileeHaris, YOu se the end of life of 11.10 above17:38
XiaolinDraconisomg i managed to change resolutions with problems17:38
Harisyes, I do. Its specifically requested17:38
XiaolinDraconisnow if only that worked every time17:38
kafee786i am not able to install tor in my ubuntu system17:38
wilee-nileeHaris, Cool we just like to inform if we can. ;)]17:39
kafee786any one give me way to do it17:39
Haris=)17:39
ActionParsnipkafee786: if you can give details, we can advise17:39
wilee-nileekafee786, Tor has a download you can use that is not root.17:39
ActionParsnip!tor17:39
ubottuTor is a program to route connections through several servers for anonymity. It is in Ubuntu's repositories, but the Tor Project recommends using their Tor packages due to past issues with Ubuntu's. For setup info, see option (2) of https://www.torproject.org/docs/debian.html.en | To use Tor on freenode, see !tor-sasl17:39
Haristhat's done.17:40
kafee786i am using ubuntu 10.0417:40
HarisWhere do I get the ks/seed file from17:40
ActionParsnipkafee786: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwFrO1XbxG017:40
ActionParsnipkafee786: Lucid doesn't have a lot of life left. I suggest you use Precise or Quantal.17:41
kafee786is it for ubuntu 10.0417:41
ActionParsnipkafee786: it should run17:42
thomedyquick question.... how do locate the a specific file... i used locate and got 2 instancces of it... but i have a strong preminition that it is in aone of my include directories.... i need a difinitive answer so i can G++ it with -l17:42
ActionParsnipkafee786: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxFL8LAjtj817:42
kafee786youtube videos is not working17:42
ActionParsnipkafee786: personally I wouldn't bother and just web browse17:42
HulkHoganthomedy: sudo updatedb17:42
ASHER1dammn with ftp i try everything and is no work :\17:43
ActionParsnipkafee786: https://www.torproject.org/download/download-easy.html.en17:43
dr_willisthomedy: locate uses a database so may  nit be totally accurate17:43
thomedyokay17:43
cha0s_ActioParsnip: ok installed everything and still no playback17:43
thomedycool17:43
thomedyi was goign to do find / -name [file] but i always some how screw that command up an di dont know why17:44
ActionParsnipcha0s_: why could you not get the page that I gave you?17:44
ciastekTrying to move Ubuntu to new disk. Worked on Precise, now on Quantal have permission errors. Can't even log in on VT. Using rsync, updating fstab, grub-install, update-grub. Any ideas where to look?17:44
ActionParsnipthomedy: could use:   sudo updatedb   locate is very fast then :)17:44
kafee786in my college there is restriction on using proxy site17:44
HulkHoganthomedy: maybe learn how to use alias with bashrc makes commands eaiser17:45
luingarmcwolfguys, how can i change the grub's default boot option?17:45
thomedyyou were right about locate being outdated i found the  one i wanted17:45
cha0s_ActioParsnip; I used the page you gave me and installed all of the stuff from it after enabling17:45
dr_willisluingarmcwolf:  in /etc/default/grub17:45
thomedyand i actaully can make my own commands i taught myself about 2 months ago... if thats what you mean HulkHogan17:45
solsticehow do I automatically mount an luks partition since /etc/crypttab is not taken into account it seems17:45
thomedyim not a mazing but im getting better17:45
luingarmcwolfdr17:45
kafee786so i am not able to install it , is there any way to install it without proxy site17:45
ActionParsnipcha0s_: yes but why did I have to get you the link? All I did was search the web and not very well. Why couldn't you do that?17:45
HulkHoganthomedy: alias just makes command line easier to remember, since u said u forget how to use the find command17:46
cha0s_ActioParsnip because I am outside the police depo on half battery trying to get my security feed that I pulled from the dvr to play so i can show the officers who broke into my home17:46
thomedyso its not making your own bash script commands.. thats how  i do blender17:47
ActionParsnipcha0s_: doesn't mean you cannot websearch a little for yourself given the direction I gave you, does it?17:47
thomedyi wrote a script that takes me to the same path everytime in bin17:47
fairuz_Hi guys, to install a kernel, I need to install headers, image and image extra? Correct? http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.5-rc7-quantal/17:47
fairuz_in order?17:47
thomedyany way not the point righ tnow super thansk i found the library i wanted cuz i didn't know locate uses db and now im good17:47
ActionParsnipcha0s_: instead of seeing an unfamiliar term nd panicing then asking for details, try searching a little and you'll be surprised what you find17:47
cha0s_ActionParsnip: not tryingto be hard to get along with. just trying to get this info for the cops since I have no charger was hoping it would be faster asking in here17:48
ActionParsnipcha0s_: have you tried setting a different video output method in vlc17:48
cha0s_it wont even open in vlc it says unkown file type17:48
Harishttp://phacker.org/files/2008/08/ubuntu_esprimo_e5920.txt <- this one installs X. I'll remove that part. Is this good for a basic install ?17:49
ActionParsnipcha0s_: open VLC then set the output, then open the file17:49
dr_willisvlc menus can tell you the codec of the vides also17:49
ActionParsnipcha0s_: you can run VLC without having it open a file17:49
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dr_willisopen vlc. drag/drop the file also works.17:50
cha0s_ActionParsnip: ok I have multiple choices for output but none specify if it will play the H264 any ideas?17:50
ActionParsnipcha0s_: try each in turn. I find X11 works friendliest17:51
ActionParsnipcha0s_: did you also try gnome-mplayer ?17:51
HulkHogancha0s_: might need to install x26417:51
cha0s_when installing gnome-mplayer it said movie player was already installed and no it wouldn't play17:52
HulkHogancha0s_: missing codec basically17:53
cha0s_x264 is installed17:53
HulkHogancha0s_: is this a dvd?17:53
cha0s_no. file from a dvr17:53
cha0s_security camera feed17:54
dr_willisi run the video player from terminal. then play thins.  thatway i see any error messages in the terminal...17:54
HulkHogancha0s_: what format is it?17:54
dr_willismay be some weird codec.17:54
cha0s_H264 - Mpeg-4 avc17:54
cha0s_h 264 - mpeg-4 avc (part 10) (avc1) to be exact17:55
dr_willishow did you determine thatt cha0s_ ?17:55
cha0s_because the manual for the security system dvr says it.17:56
steven-did17:56
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cha0s_and there was a disc that worked with windows but since i don't have windows.........................17:56
dr_willistry 'file thevideofile' to verify the info. or rightclick on it and use properties..17:57
HulkHogancha0s_: try running it, cvlc filename17:57
dr_willisvlc should be able to play it id think.17:57
cha0s_main access error main input error17:58
HulkHogancha0s_: either missing codecs or ur pc too slow to run high quality videos17:58
cha0s_brand new hp 64 bit17:58
ActionParsnipcha0s_: try:  sudo apt-get install x264 libx264-12317:58
dr_willisor currupted file17:58
lolcatWhere is ialibs32?!17:59
cha0s_unable to locate package17:59
lolcatI need it like a dog needs sticks!17:59
dr_willis!info x26417:59
ubottux264 (source: x264): video encoder for the H.264/MPEG-4 AVC standard. In component universe, is optional. Version 2:0.123.2189+git35cf912-1 (quantal), package size 324 kB, installed size 767 kB17:59
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LordThumperIs Ubuntu Server, just Ubuntu Desktop without Window Manager?18:00
mN-!info x1118:00
ubottuPackage x11 does not exist in quantal18:00
mN-!info x.conf18:00
ubottuPackage x.conf does not exist in quantal18:00
ActionParsnipLordThumper: the kernel is slightly different but otherwise its the same OS18:00
rhizmoecha0s_: type `file <your video filename>`18:00
dr_willisLordThumper:  the default kernel may be different i think.18:00
mN-How can i get 120hz in ubuntu 64bit :<18:00
cha0s_ActionParsnip: unable to locate package18:00
ActionParsnipcha0s_: which one? I gave 218:01
LordThumperOh I see, thanks18:01
cha0s_sudo apt-get install x264 libx264-123 only one i see18:01
LordThumperHave a Ubuntu Server VM installation, so i'll just install Gnome or something18:02
asdf__Is there an easy way to download a folder from an FTP server? I can't use sftp because SSH is blocked.18:02
cha0s_ActioParsnip: sudo apt-get install x264 libx264-123 only one i see18:02
LordThumperapt-get install gnome ?18:02
rhizmoevlc yo18:02
wilee-nileeLordThumper, what do you want as far as desktops?18:02
dr_willischa0s_: done a    sudo agt-get  update   recently?18:02
dr_willisapt-get update18:03
LordThumperI like the default Ubuntu UI18:03
LordThumperOh that is Unity18:03
LordThumperright?18:03
wilee-nileeLordThumper, ubuntu-desktop18:03
ActionParsnipLordThumper: Then why install server when you want a desktop OS????18:03
wilee-nileeLordThumper, What us the release first18:04
wilee-nileeis*18:04
dr_willisasdf__: many ftp clients can do that. or wget can18:04
LordThumperI have a VM of Ubuntu Server18:04
LordThumperAnd I already have FTP/HTTP servers set up18:04
wilee-nileeLordThumper, Which release of the server18:04
ActionParsnipLordThumper: so why do you need the desktop?18:04
asdf__dr_willis: Whenver I use wget -r, it never works as I want it to (as I understand it, it traverses all links, rather than the filesystem itself)18:04
LordThumperJust want to install a UI, to I can do some other stuff occasionally18:04
LordThumperLet me get the version18:05
asdf__dr_willis: Any idea how I can get wget to do what I want?18:05
LordThumperso I can*18:05
ActionParsnipLordThumper: I suggest you add the boot option text so thatit boots to CLI only, for security18:05
dr_willisasdf__: try a gui frontend perhaps.. links as in  soft links? or web url links?18:05
LordThumperActionParsnip, only the file servers are available from outside18:06
LordThumperShell access should be restricted to local only18:06
asdf__dr_willis: Not sure exactly, I remember wget -r would always end up downloading a ton more than I wanted, and I looked it up and there was something about it looking for references within the page itself, instead of files within the directory (which is probably why it suggests you specify a depth)18:07
VlanYActionParsnip: sorry wait a minute: is it possible that 3.5 is develop kernel since the "5" is an odd number?  If so, does 12.10 have 3.4 or 3.5 ?18:08
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bekksVlanY: There are no "development kernels" anymore since 3.018:08
LordThumperwilee-nilee: 11.1018:09
VlanYbekks: perfect, thank you :)18:09
NowakerI was rsyncing data to my new 2x3TB raid1+luks disk. When reached 564G used space, I got "No space left on device (28)" for the first time and "Broken pipe (32)" for the second. df-h is OK (2,8T 564G 2,2T 21%), df -i too (175M 1,1M 174M 1%). Any suggestions?18:10
wilee-nileeLordThumper, 11.10 goes end of life next april does this matter.18:10
LordThumperNo18:11
wilee-nileecool18:11
ActionParsnip!info linux-image | VlanY18:12
ubottuVlanY: linux-image (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image.. In component main, is optional. Version 3.5.0.14.14 (quantal), package size 1 kB, installed size 31 kB18:12
mN-120hz nvidia, how to get? Who knows?18:12
ActionParsnipmN-: if you use an xorg.conf file you can set the refresh rate manually.18:13
dr_willistry the nvudia-settings tool?18:13
Rockahi need some help with a webcam  newest version of ubuntu trust-wb3320x i cant get it to work just black screen18:13
MonkeyDustRockah  have you tried cheese?18:14
ActionParsnipRockah: run:  lsusb    use the 8 character hex ID to find guides18:14
HarisI need / /var /boot /tmp partitions. How do I tell it in seed/kickstart file ?18:14
dr_willisRockah: tried it in "cheese" yet?18:14
Rockahwhats cheese monkeysust18:14
MonkeyDust!info cheese18:14
ubottucheese (source: cheese): tool to take pictures and videos from your webcam. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (quantal), package size 55 kB, installed size 339 kB18:14
Rockahok ill try18:14
mN-ActionParsnip: I tried finding this xorg.conf from X11 but it wasnt there, im not sure where to find it. I am using xorg drivers however18:15
dr_williswhat have you tried it in so far Rockah ?18:15
MonkeyDust!tab | Rockah and by the by,18:15
ubottuRockah and by the by,: You can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.18:15
Rockahim doing it now dr_willis18:15
ActionParsnipmN-: run:  sudo nvidia-xconfig; gksudo nvidia-settings18:16
ActionParsnipmN-: set the resolution and refresh rate to something then click 'Save to X config file'18:16
dr_willismN-: using the nvidia drivers or the noveau drivers?18:16
ActionParsnipmN-: you can then run:  gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf    and change the refresh rate18:16
wilee-nileeRockah, I see some various info on the web here is one, maybe cheese will do it, it seems a little more is needed. http://pc-freak.net/blog/install-configure-webcam-trust-wb-3320x-live-ubuntu-debian-linux/18:17
mN-dr_willis:  yeah i was using noveau, i changed to nvidia now18:17
mN-ActionParsnip:  alright ill test it18:18
L-Chymerahi guys, I keep trying to run vpnc and I constantly get this - what's up with it? http://paste2.org/p/240861818:19
Rockahgot it Wilee18:20
mN-ActionParsnip:  it says you do not appear to be using nvidia X driver18:20
ActionParsnipmN-: did you install nvidia-current package?18:20
bluesypherHey all18:22
mN-ActionParsnip:  settings, software sources, additional drivers, using nvidia binary xorg driver18:22
mN-ActionParsnip: ?18:22
bluesypheri have a ubuntu 3.2.0 kernel version18:22
bluesypheri ain't able to find syscall_table32.S18:22
mN-ActionParsnip: should I apt-get a new one?18:22
bluesypherbasically wanted to create my own syscall18:22
ActionParsnipmN-: try the nvidia-xconfig command then reboot18:23
mN-okay18:23
bluesypherAny idea which directory does it reside?18:24
ActionParsnipbluesypher: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc18:24
bluesypheri heard 3.3 has a separate directory called syscalls to place this file...but sadly..none of that type in 3.218:24
bluesypherprecise18:25
ActionParsnip!info linux-image precise18:25
ubottulinux-image (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image.. In component main, is optional. Version 3.2.0.30.32 (precise), package size 1 kB, installed size 31 kB18:25
ActionParsnipbluesypher: sounds like a bug if you are getting issues18:25
Hariscan I choose a URL on the "choose the next step in the installation process" screen ?18:25
bluesypherActionParsnip: info:event not found18:26
Harisit says detect and mount cd18:26
bluesypherActionParsnip: !info rather18:26
bluesypherActionParsnip: is it a bug?18:27
ActionParsnipbluesypher: if you believe something is amiss, then yes18:28
bluesypherActionParsnip: The thing is , if i am not able to find the syscalls_table file,how is linux able to handle them without using that file?18:29
Harisinstall centos's kickstart files, I can specify a url from where network install takes places. Can I do the same in ubuntu's seed files ?18:29
MonkeyDustbluesypher  does locate syscalls|less make you any wiser?18:31
NowakerI was rsyncing data to my new 2x3TB raid1+luks disk. When reached 564G used space, I got "No space left on device (28)" for the first time and "Broken pipe (32)" for the second. df-h is OK (2,8T 564G 2,2T 21%), df -i too (175M 1,1M 174M 1%). Any suggestions?18:32
bluesypherMonkeyDust: Nopes ..already tried it18:32
Harisguys ?18:32
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EtgarDizzhello18:36
bluesypherEtgarDizz: Hi18:36
EtgarDizzi'm wondering if there's someone here that can help with a unity lens issue??18:36
savioEtgarDizz, ask your question if anyone knows he/she can answer18:37
EtgarDizzhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1232683818:38
dr_willisa small summary is a good idea EtgarDizz18:38
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vfwNowaker: fdisk -l |pastebinit18:40
cuorels18:40
vfwNowaker: df -h |pastebinit18:40
Nowakervfw:  2,8T  582G  2,2T  21%,   175M   1,1M   174M    1%18:40
Nowakerso both df -h and df -i are good18:41
EtgarDizzi see :) well the problem is i'm trying to make a modification to an existing scope, to make it appear under a specific lens and not in the global search18:42
Nowakervfw: fdisk not good, as I have a GPT parttable18:42
EtgarDizzand it's not working...18:42
vincent_exit18:43
EtgarDizzit still comes up in the global search18:43
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wilee-nileeEtgarDizz, You have to have some patience.18:43
EtgarDizzwilee-nilee, in regard to what?18:44
wilee-nilee!patience | EtgarDizz18:44
ubottuEtgarDizz: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/18:44
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EtgarDizzubottu, i wasn't being impatient, i was trying to add some more information so it would be clearer what i'm trying to do / what the problem is18:45
ubottuEtgarDizz: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)18:45
EtgarDizzok, this chat room is starting to freak me out18:46
Nowakervfw: looks like it's just a bug in rsync, that can't handle partitions more than ~~570G. I was able to dd if=/dev/zero of=/mnt/disk/file.tmp more than 20G for now, so...18:47
EtgarDizzhad a MUCH better experience here last time...18:47
EtgarDizzbtw - is there a dedicated unity chat room? i tried #unity but that's for something copletely different18:48
vfwNowaker: So... maybe just use dd ? or...?  I dono18:48
Nowakervfw: will just use `cp` instead of rsync18:49
vfwNowaker: Yea, there you go.18:49
Nowakerthe messages were just misleading, no space left on device suggests something different... ;-)18:49
Nowakerguess I need to file a bug in rsync bugtracker18:49
Harisafter asking for keyboard layout, ubuntu comes back to me complaining that it couldn't mount installation cdrom. I'm doing a network install via a ks/seed file. How do I make the installer understand that its going to have to contact a http mirror to get the files ?18:50
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Hariscan 11.10 be installed via network ?18:50
wilee-nilee!pxe18:50
Harisplease help18:50
HarisI have setup the pxe via cobbler with 11.10-server18:51
trismEtgarDizz: try #ubuntu-unity18:51
gsrEtgarDizz, try #ubuntu-devel18:51
HarisI just can't get it to (1) find installation source (i.e., network url) and (2) network interface configuration18:51
mN-dr_willis:  hey i have this nvidia now, i can only set 100hz18:51
mN-dr_willis:  how can i put 120hz?18:51
Haristhe installer that is18:51
Hariswhat's missing ?18:51
vfwNowaker: Maybe so, I don't konw, (don't have enough info to make an inteligent assesment).18:52
osse/etc/default/locale is set to en_CA.UTF-8 but still when I SSH in to my server from putty my $LANG is empty. How can I find out why that is so?18:52
Harisany ideas guys ?18:53
unrarIf I install ubuntu-desktop on Xubuntu, I'll have Unity also as a DE?18:54
Nowakerosse: update-locale after setting it?18:54
mN-How can I get 120hz, nvidia, I can only set 100hz? Anybody know?18:54
wilee-nileeunrar, yes18:54
HarisI can't get ubuntu installed yet. can't get ubuntu installer to look at work location for installation18:54
Harishow do I do that ?18:54
Nowakeralso, when it still doesn't work, you always have ~/.profile, ~/.bashrc or sth like that18:54
wilee-nileeunrar, What release are you running though?18:54
unrarI'm on Ubuntu 12.04 + xubuntu-desktop18:55
unrarI don't know if stick here, install Ubuntu 12.10 + xubuntu-desktop or Xubuntu 12.10 and maybe ubuntu-desktop18:55
Hariswilee-nilee: any ideas ?18:55
wilee-nileeunrar, Cool that will load the unity desktop with a ubuntu-desktop install.18:55
osseNowaker: doesn't that just update /etc/default/locale? That file is correct as it stands.18:55
unrarWhat do you recommend me?18:55
Haris!pxe18:55
wilee-nileeunrar, A massage and a cold beer. ;)18:56
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Nowakerosse: /etc/default/* are just templates, and they are used to regenerate real config files. therefore, you need to `update-locale`.18:56
unrarhaha18:56
L3topHaris: you can add the location to the top sources.list and update... it will draw from there first... and hash out the cd-rom line if it is there... if I understand you correctly18:57
inxtoEugenefunny right?18:57
unrarI tried Ubuntu 12.10 and it has lots of bugs18:57
wilee-nileeunrar, as far as desktops you basically have to find what you like I use gnome 3 myself.18:57
unrarI want to use XFCE mainly and Unity sometimes18:57
Nowakerosse: and when it doesn't work, you always have your shell rc where set whatever envvars you want18:57
L3topHaris: it will have to have a Packages file etc...18:57
unrarBut dunno if on precise or quantal18:57
mN-How can I get 120hz, nvidia, I can only set 100hz? Anybody know?18:57
vfwunrar: Ubuntu 12.04-LTS with xubuntu-desktop is good.18:58
osseNowaker: indeed. I'm just curious why I get an empty $LANG when I don't explicitly set it myself.18:58
unrarYes, it's what i'm using vfw18:58
HarisL3top: Is that some place in the seed file ? what would be the keyword ? I'v set a mirror to a local box on the network. that doesn't seem to be it18:58
vfwunrar: If I were you, I'd stick with LTS18:58
unrarGreat18:58
inxtoEugeneIt gets even better18:58
cuore_hey .. i'm using ubuntu 11.04 in classic mode nd using compiz  . will i loose the configuration of compiz if i upgrade toubuntu  11.10 thX :)18:58
unrarOn 12.10 the notification popups show a bar18:58
BsimsI am looking for out of the box Just Works for wifi cards, any particular brand to get?18:59
vfwcuore_: You might but can be fixed.18:59
Nowakerosse: I have one answer for that - ubuntu is evil, go arch linux :)18:59
ossehaha18:59
Nowakerthere is surely a right place where you should set it... :)18:59
wilee-nileecuore_, YOU have to do a end of life upgrade not a regular one 11.04 is not supported as of now. 11.10 goes eol in april as well,18:59
L3topHaris: it is not the seed file... but you can also do things with the seed files. Again, your mirror must have a Packages file, and in order to grab MOST of its needs from there, it must be first in the list. I am not exactly clear on what youa re doing... however if it is complaining about reading the CD, usually this is because of the cd rom entry in sources.list. How did you setup your mirror?19:00
HarisL3top: I can open a shell in ubuntu installer. But I don't know where the sources.list file is during install19:00
L3topHaris: /etc/apt/sources.list19:00
unrarAnd ringtail comes on april, yay19:00
HarisI'm trying to install 11.10 from network via pxe on a box19:00
unrarHow were the J and K editions named?19:00
L3topthat is a tad different Haris.19:01
L3topHaris: it is pxe booting?19:01
HarisI setup the mirror/pxe via cobbler19:01
Harisyes19:01
HarisInstallation starts fine19:01
L3topokey doke... then try changing the sources.list... I am unfamiliar with cobbler... I have only done these things manually.19:02
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Harisit just automates the same thing i.e., setup of pxe19:03
HarisI need to know 2 things19:03
Haris(1) how to make the installer pickup files from network for install19:03
Haris(2) how to make the network accessible19:04
Haristhese things should auto be done via ks file19:04
Harisks is configured for dhcp19:04
wilee-nileeBsims, There is a certified card wiki19:04
Guest25222hi there19:04
Bsimswilee-nilee: Ok19:04
wilee-nileeBsims, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported  personally I have not found one that does not work, but I only bought two usb type.19:05
wilee-nileeI forget the names of them though19:05
ASHER1why ftp in ubuntu 10.04 no work like some later system19:06
Harisit won't write /etc/apt/sources.list during install19:06
Bsimswilee-nilee: heh I can state the usb wifi cards from netgear sold by walmart are junk19:07
wilee-nileeBsims, Not sure I would buy anything at walmart there treatment of their employees alone would stop me, that business is owned by people in the top 10 of forbes true evil.19:08
Bsimswilee-nilee: it was open at 11pm19:09
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gatsby7hi there19:09
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ASHER1someone can explain to me why in ubuntu 10.04 no work good the ftp?19:12
ikoniano work good the ftp ? what ?19:13
ikoniaplease try to explain the problem19:13
seanhHey, does any know what will happen if I upgrade an Ubuntu server (10.04 - 12.04) in this situation: on 10.04 I have a third party apt repo in sources.list and a package 'jenkins' installed from that repo. There's no jenkins package in the default 10.04 repos. 12.04 does have a package called jenkins in its default repos. It's an older version of jenkins that the one I currently have installed from a third party repo. What will Ubuntu try to do w19:13
seanhith this package if I do do-release-upgrade?19:13
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ikoniaseanh: potentially break the upgrade and leave your system unusable19:13
Bsimsseanh: Odds are it will simply upgrade it19:14
ikoniano it won't19:14
ikoniaas it's an older version so the dependencies will be out19:14
ikoniaand the chances are the repo that held the newer versions has created conflicting dependencies to meet the newer versionm19:14
ikoniaversion19:14
wilee-nileeseanh, Clone what you have if you try if you can, you want a backup.19:14
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Bsimsseanh: simply do apt-get remove jenkins... do the upgrade, then reinstall it19:16
ikoniano19:16
Bsimsor you can pin it to the current version you have19:16
ikoniathat wont fix any dependencies19:16
aquethysHello, I have an Hp Pavilion dv6-7043cl. I'm tying to install 12.10 Quantal Quetzal. First, can I install 64 bit on this computer? Do I burn the iso image I download onto a blank DVD? With what? Then do I just reboot with the CD?19:16
ikoniaseanh: I stronghly advise you not to follow what Bsims is suggesting19:17
Terrabullis any version of Ubuntu compatible with the Asus P8z77 mobo?19:17
ikoniaTerrabull: resarch the chipsets19:17
Hariscan ubuntu automated install be done through kickstart files ?19:17
cuore hey i'm using ubuntu 11.04 callic mode with compiz .. will i lose compiz configuration if not will compiz work fine with unity ? thx:)19:17
ikoniayes19:17
Hariskickstart as in kickstart rather than seed files19:17
Bsimsikonia: the new apt-get install foo will pull the current depends will it not?19:17
ikoniacuore: correct19:17
ASHER1in guide who install ftp i see is did good restart and start but if i try install ftp in ubuntu 10.04 this no look is install good19:17
ikoniaBsims: no19:18
wilee-nilee!eol | cuore19:18
cuorei meant " classic not ' callic " sorry19:18
ubottucuore: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades19:18
ikoniaBsims: not if there is a conflict which is likely as it's a newer version than the official repos19:18
Terrabullikonia: im getting mixed results. cant find a straight answer from google OR the asus support site.19:18
Harisguys ? hello ?19:19
Bsimsikonia: Ah, that is why I was suggesting removing the version from the third party repo, then doing the upgrade, then installing the version from universe19:19
ikoniaTerrabull: then you'll get mixed answers here, don't look at the asus site, find the chipsets on the board and resarch their compatability individuallyu19:19
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wilee-nileecuore, If it were me I would install 12.04 it i supported for 5 years, you could dualboot it right now and grab our stuff while setting it up.19:19
ikoniaHaris: what ?19:19
wilee-nileeyour*19:19
ikoniaBsims: yes, but that won't fix it19:19
ikoniaBsims: the dependencies will STILL be there19:19
ikoniaBsims: removing the package won't remove the depends19:20
BsimsNo, but it will upgrade the depends if they are in Multi/Universe19:20
seanhikonia: Bsims wilee-nilee I guess I'll uninstall jenkins, remove the third-party repo from sources.list, sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get autoremove, then do-release-upgrade, then apt-get install jenkins from the 12.04 repos, then I'll probably have to recreate all my jenkins config19:20
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ikoniaBsims: no it won't19:20
ikoniaBsims: not if they are conflict or newer19:20
Hariskickstart as in kickstart rather than seed files. kickstart as in kickstart rather than seed files19:20
Harisoops19:20
ikoniaBsims: which is likley as the 3rd party version is NEWER than the official one19:20
seanhikonia: If I remove the package and then do apt-get update and apt-get autoremove, that might remove the dependencies?19:20
Hariscan ubuntu automated install be done through kickstart files ? kickstart as in kickstart rather than seed files.19:21
ikoniaseanh: no19:21
wilee-nileeseanh, Back it up first is all I will say here.19:21
ikoniaHaris: as in "kickstart"19:21
wilee-nileeseanh, Uh and follow ikonia19:21
Haristhe centos kickstart files19:21
gatsby7hi there, is there any postfix guru here? ;)19:21
OerHeksseanh, use ppa-purge to remove that ppa and reverse the installation19:21
ikoniaHaris: centos kickstart files won't work as they are for centos19:21
Bsimsgatsby7: ew postfix? why not use something sensible like exim19:22
ikoniaBsims: there is nothing wrong with postfix19:22
Harisis that seed files for ubuntu automated installs or do we also call them kickstart files ?19:22
seanhOerHeks: it's not a ppa I don't think19:22
gatsby7hi Bsims ;) is a company choiche19:22
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ikoniaHaris: how many times kickstart files !19:22
Bsimsikonia: mark it down as similar to emacs vs vi19:22
ikoniaBsims: not really19:22
Harisok19:22
seanhIt seems like I need to remove the third-party repo and any packages installed from that repo, then do the OS upgrade, surely that should be safe?19:23
Bsimsgatsby7: not a clue I'd try #debian or #ubuntu-server19:23
ikoniaseanh: that will minimise risk19:23
Bsimsseanh: yeah that sounds reasonable19:23
unrarWhat happens if I install 10.10, which isn't no longer supported?19:23
unrarI just want to try it on Virtualbox19:23
gatsby7maybe ur right, just tried #postfix too... but no way 2 find a solution19:23
HarisI need a sample, working kickstart to understand19:23
unrarThere aren't updates or what?19:23
ikoniaunrar: nothing will happen, in terms of updates19:24
Hariskickstart file for a basic install, that picks up files from a local box that has 11.10 extracted from iso on it19:24
seanhikonia: Bsims OerHeks Do you know how I can uninstall all packages installed from that repo?19:24
unrarSo the repositories for the unsupported versions are frozen19:24
unrarAren't them?19:24
ikoniaunrar: they are dead19:25
unrarokay19:25
ikoniaseanh: you'll have to look at the depends on your software and see what it pulls in19:25
strasfasktacan i upgrade ubuntu 12.04 LTS to 12.10 directly through the updater prgram without reinstall?19:25
Harisikonia: any help ?19:25
strasfasktai mean via internet19:25
ikoniastrasfaskta: yes19:25
ikoniaHaris: no19:25
Haris?19:25
ikoniaHaris: "no" as in "no help"19:26
strasfasktathanks !19:26
Bsimsseanh: you want ppa-purge19:26
HarisI need to perform one automated install of ubuntu 11.1019:26
Harisneed help with it19:26
Hariswhere can I get help with automated installs of ubuntu ?19:26
wilee-nileestrasfaskta, 12.04 has longer support the 12.10 is all.19:27
ikoniaHaris: this channel is the official support channel, so a good start19:27
inxtoEugeneDoes ubuntu compete with Microsoft students?19:27
ikoniacomplete ?19:27
ikoniawhat19:27
BluesKajstudents?19:28
steven-how do I get source codes from exntensions.gnome.org?19:28
inxtoEugenedo we not all use a computer19:28
steven-extensions sources19:28
inxtoEugenefor reasons19:28
inxtoEugeneor should i stop talking19:28
ikoniainxtoEugene: do you have a real question ?19:28
OerHeksHaris, maybe this preseeding manual is any help > https://help.ubuntu.com/11.10/installation-guide/i386/preseed-intro.html19:28
inxtoEugenei appologize19:28
lorenzo_Hi people19:29
lorenzo_I've a problem with xubuntu 12.0419:29
squaregoldfishFor the last couple of weeks Youtube videos in Chrome have been horribly slow (~1fps). Fine in Firefox. I'm completely out of ideas, so I'm asking here for suggestions...?19:29
inxtoEugenewhat exactly is ubuntu?19:29
trismsteven-: if you already installed the extension, I would guess it is in ~/.local/share/gnome-shell/extensions/19:29
wilee-nileelorenzo_, State it. ;)19:29
steven-trism, thank you, but thats the thing, i can't install the extension, now i wanna check the source code why19:30
ikoniainxtoEugene: a linux distribution, read ubuntu.com19:30
lorenzo_??19:30
BluesKaj!ubuntu | inxtoEugene0019:30
ubottuinxtoEugene00: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com19:30
wilee-nileelorenzo_, State your problem. ;)19:30
trismsteven-: point me to the extension and I'll look19:30
lorenzo_it simple lags like hell19:30
lorenzo_it lags like eòò19:31
wilee-nileelorenzo_, What is the cpu and ram?19:31
lorenzo_hell19:31
lorenzo_ram 512 mb cpu more than 700 mHz19:32
lorenzo_i use it 'cause my real pc has got a problem19:32
wilee-nileelorenzo_, Rather low to run efficiently, you might try installing lxde19:32
lorenzo_ok hnx19:32
lorenzo_thx19:32
lorenzo_i'll install it asap19:33
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Forty-3I use fedora normally; what's the apt equivlant to 'yum what-provides file'?19:34
lorenzo_however one of you knows what is  eOs Luna release data19:34
ikoniaapt-file19:34
Forty-3k19:34
aquethysHello, I have an Hp Pavilion dv6-7043cl. I'm tying to install 12.10 Quantal Quetzal. First, can I install 64 bit on this computer? Do I burn the iso image I download onto a blank DVD? With what? Then do I just reboot with the CD?19:34
ikonialorenzo_: luna is nothing to do with ubuntu or this channel19:34
ikonia!install | aquethys19:34
ubottuaquethys: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? See http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate19:34
lorenzo_is based on it19:34
lorenzo_sorry for spam19:35
ikonialorenzo_: but it's not it, so this channel is nothing to do with it19:35
lorenzo_ok but i've asked only for an information19:35
wols_then please ask elsewhere, where it's in topic. ##linux maybe19:35
ikonialorenzo_: yes and this channel does not provide it19:35
wilee-nileeaquethys, That computer is a 64 bit, burn the ISO as an image.19:36
steven-trism, https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/495/topicons/ that one19:36
wilee-nileeaquethys, Use a live cd and boot it to the desktop, do you ahev W7 on it?19:37
goat777faceaquethys: burn it as an iso image, one you boot from DVD drive it will be smooth sailing ;)19:37
wilee-nileehave*19:37
aquethys@wilee - any good programs to burn the iso with?19:37
DebolazHrmm, /me ponders going back to 12.04 due to all the empathy bugs.19:37
DebolazA shame, because I really love the webapps feature.19:37
MonkeyDust!burn > aquethys19:37
ubottuaquethys, please see my private message19:37
ikoniaaquethys: read the link ubottu have you19:37
wilee-nileeaquethys, In windows imageburn is good but I believe it has a stock burner.19:37
ikoniaaquethys: it's all covered in the install guide if you actually read it19:37
wols_Debolaz: couldn't you downgrade just empathy then?19:38
saquib:)19:38
saquib:-)19:38
wilee-nileeaquethys, You want to be aware of some limitations in the amount of and types of partitions if you are dualbooting, as as have a full image of gthe windows if you have it to be safe here.19:39
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inxtoEugeneis aol still on line?19:40
ikoniainxtoEugene: that is nothing to do with this channel19:41
ikoniainxtoEugene: this channel support ubuntu discussion only19:41
Ubuntu_loveis there any way to make a atx to hook up to a serial header to make a restore to factory defualt settings in ubuntu??19:41
inxtoEugeneIkonia: no means for irrelevancy, but where can I find rooms?19:42
ikoniafreenode.net19:42
wilee-nileeUbuntu_love, You might just address your problem, there is no full system restore to stock.19:42
Ubuntu_lovei am bullding a WAP controller that uses an ITX board. is there any way to make a atx to hook up to a serial header to make a restore to factory defualt settings in ubuntu??19:43
Ubuntu_lovei am bullding a WAP controller that uses an ITX board. is there any way to make an atx reset button to hook up to a serial header to make a restore to factory defualt settings in ubuntu??19:44
ikoniaUbuntu_love: that is way beyond the scope of this channel19:44
manolosHi. Can i ask something about ubuntu 12.10 minimal installation x64?19:46
wilee-nileemanolos, yes19:46
Ubuntu_loveikonia: really?19:46
goat777faceManalos, go ahaed19:46
manolosthanks :) well my problem is that i cant install. there are conflicts19:46
manolosw8 to post my url image19:46
ikoniaUbuntu_love: a button that interacts with firmware to deploy a reset to default...yeah19:47
manoloshttps://www.dropbox.com/s/ann9lcop3t7jm50/mini64.png19:47
manolosyou can see from the image that there are same packages with i386 and x86_6419:47
goat777faceSorry, can't read greek19:47
manolosand they conflict19:48
manolossorry for greek language.19:48
wilee-nileemanolos, aptitude is deprecated19:48
wilee-nileeIt does not work fully with the setup now19:49
manolosoh. so i have only the i386 option for now?19:49
auronandace!aptitude | manolos19:49
ubottumanolos: aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT. You may encounter problems on multiarch installs (11.10 and higher) as aptitude cannot currently handle the same package with different architectures being installed at the same time. See http://pad.lv/831768 for more information.19:49
manolosthank you very much. :)19:50
bekksmanolos: No. Use spt-get insteasd of aptitude.19:50
manoloswell i dont know how to do that. i just have the option to hit "g" and install the packages that i want19:51
bekkssudo apt-get install packagename19:51
manolosi know that but the minimal install image is automatic19:52
manolosyou have a list with thing to do but you cant access terminal19:52
bekks?19:52
bekksYou can always install packages manually, using apt-get19:52
manolosthere is no option of terminal usege before i install the base of ubuntu19:53
manolosand i cant even install the base19:53
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wilee-nileemanolos, You can install the base, then when done reboot to a cli and install what you want.19:54
bekksmanolos: Well, without having a base Ubuntu installed, you cant even use aptitude.19:54
auronandacebekks: he is attempting to install using the mini.iso which uses aptitude by default19:55
manolosi think i get it now! sorry for my noobish questions. ill try again. hope it will work! thanks again19:55
wilee-nileeauronandace, In 12.10?19:55
auronandacewilee-nilee: thats what it sounds like to me19:56
wilee-nileeauronandace, I have never see aptitude in the mini myself.19:56
wilee-nileeas far as the straight install choices it is a tick the box you want.19:57
auronandacewilee-nilee: maybe i got it wrong then, sorry19:57
lappyHello everyone!  I'm trying to dual boot windows 7 and ubuntu 12.10.  I've picked out where to put my / and /home, but I don't know what to select when it asks me where to put the device boot loader installation.  Does anyone have a suggestion for me?19:58
wilee-nileelappy, If this is a msdos partitioning setup in the mbr19:58
lappywilee-nilee: How do I know where the mbr is?19:59
wilee-nileelappy, What is the HD sda sdb?19:59
Guest11210how do i setup multiple languges in my ubuntu__20:00
Guest11210|??20:00
wilee-nileelappy, what is the / partition?20:01
Guest11210how do i setup multiple languges in mz ubuntu??20:01
lappywilee-nilee: sda is a 32GB SSD where I'm going to install /.  It's also the location of the windows 7 (loader).20:01
Ubuntu_loveis there a way to cross/trigger rx tx on a serial header so  ubuntu will pick it up and do a function?20:01
lappysdb is where my /home folder and windows 7 install are.20:02
wilee-nileelappy, Put the bootloader in sda no partition number sda is the mbr20:02
wilee-nileelappy, Hold on you have ubuntu split root in one HD and home in anaiother?20:02
Ubuntu_loveis there a way to cross/trigger rx tx on a serial header so  ubuntu will pick it up and do a function?20:02
lappywilee-nilee:  Yes, I've put my / on the SSD and /home on a HDD.20:03
BluesKaj!patience > Ubuntu_love20:03
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ubottuUbuntu_love, please see my private message20:03
wilee-nileelappy, The bootloader would go in sda then20:03
wilee-nileeno partition number20:03
lappyOk, and just to be clear.  That's /dev/sda and NOT /dev/sda1 (which it says is Windows 7 loader)?20:04
smerchHello everyone. I'm using ubuntu 12.10 and I have an issue with full-screen apps (games). When I change down resolution the picture looks stretched and not fit on  screen. Can anyone confirm that?20:04
wilee-nileelappy, exactly, never put grub in a windows partition, the mbr is always just those 3 letters no partition number.20:04
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lappyAlright, I appreciate the help wilee-nilee.  This has kind of been a pain to set up, so thank you!20:05
dr_willissmerch: some lcds have settings on how to zoom when displaying stuff that is not the native res of the lcd.20:05
dr_willissmerch: what gam20:06
wilee-nileelappy, no problem, I assuming this is not a uefi partitioning as well.20:06
wilee-nileeI'm*20:06
smerchdr_willis: oolite20:06
dr_willis!info oolite20:07
lappywilee-nilee:  I'm not really sure how I would check that.  But I don't think that it is.20:07
ubottuoolite (source: oolite): space sim game, inspired by Elite. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.76.1-2ubuntu1 (quantal), package size 1108 kB, installed size 2961 kB20:07
dr_willishmm. not seen that one.20:07
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jagginessanyone knows if I have to use rc.local to issue brctl statements? I'd like to use auto br0 in my interfaces file (debian/ubuntu /etc/network/interfaces)20:07
wilee-nileelappy, You could open a terminal and run sudo fdisk -lu and pastebin the text.20:07
dr_willistry setting the game to use the native res of the display would be best smerch20:08
llutzjagginess: can't you setup bridging-stuff with a script in /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/  i?20:09
wilee-nileelappy, here is a uefi wiki even better https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI#Identifying_if_the_computer_boots_the_HDD_in_EFI_mode20:09
lappywilee-nilee: here's the pastebin. http://pastebin.com/pWBKbtVH20:10
bbtest2bbtest20:11
wilee-nileelappy, I'm not real up on uefi, but I think you are okay.20:11
smerchdr_willis: true. but due to my video card (gma 950) I prefer to lover resolution settings. the thing is that on 12.04 all was fine. I'm thinking about bug.20:11
lappyWell that's reassuring.  I'm installing now so hopefully it'll work out alright.20:11
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StFSHi. I installed packages locally that have a newer version number than the same package in the repo, but now I want to go back and install the repo version back again... is there a convenient way to tell apt to install repo packages over locally installed packages even though those have a newer version?20:12
ikoniaStFS: not really20:13
jribStFS: did you happen to use a ppa?20:13
ikoniayou'll probably have problems if the newer packages have installed dependencies20:13
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wilee-nileelappy, Hehe, It is just that with newer computers now and W8 being released we are seeing uefi setups a little more often, and gpt setups as well, so I try to make sure I'm a bit aware of what is up, I have just not had a computer with either of those setups so I have not had to learn the critical info.20:14
Ubuntu_loveis there a way to cross/trigger rx tx on a serial header so  ubuntu will pick it up and do a function?20:14
ikoniaUbuntu_love: not really20:14
ikoniaUbuntu_love: you'd have to write a daemon to listen for those calls20:14
StFSjrib: well... the packages come from some ppa but I installed them locally with dpkg -i <a list of .deb files>20:15
jribStFS: do you not have internet access on the machine or something?  Why did you do it that way?20:15
lappywilee-nilee, I hope the whole UEFI thing isn't going to make new linux installs/dualbooting too difficult.20:15
wilee-nileelappy, Only with amd setups the uefi is locked a intel setup is just a little different, as I understand it.20:16
loadid__i can't imagine it's going to try and make it easier20:16
lappyAlright.  Well, I'm gonna restart and see if I installed this thing properly.  If I'm back on in a few, then I probably screwed it up.20:17
dr_willisclass action lawsuit to have the venders open it up. :-P20:17
wilee-nileedr_willis, show me where to sign. ;)20:17
dr_willisraspberrypi.org wilee-nilee   ;-)    kidding....20:18
wilee-nileehehe thats about my speed. ;)20:19
inxtoEugeneHow would you be able to format your own text streams on ubuntu?20:20
StFSjrib: good question... I just got the URL to the page with the .deb files... didn't really know I could do it another way20:20
BsimsinxtoEugene: what do you mean format text streams?20:21
jribStFS: well if you add the ppa, then you can try using ppa-purge to remove it and it will try to downgrade the packages in it20:21
dr_willisinxtoEugene: text streams  meaning what exactly?20:21
inxtoEugenedr_willis: how you perceive your own text20:22
dr_willisthats...even more vague ....20:23
dr_willis:)20:23
BsimsinxtoEugene: lets try this another way... what exactly are you trying to do20:24
lappywilee-nilee, after a restart my laptop boots straight into win7.  No grub or anything.20:24
lappyAny idea why it's not working, or what I could do to fix it?20:24
Bsimslappy: where did you install grub?20:24
wilee-nileelappy, You booting from the ssd is it first in the bios20:25
lappyBsims: I selected sda for boot loader installation.  sdb is a seperate hdd.20:26
lappywilee-nilee, I'm not sure to be honest.  Should I restart and check?20:26
Bsimslappy: Hrm, does windows have its bootloader on sdb?20:26
wilee-nileelappy, Yeah you want the ssd to be first read20:27
* Bsims ran into that once upon a time20:27
delacdoes the user-theme-extension still require compiling the glib schema on 12.10?20:27
lappyBsims, I don't know.  Do you know how I could check that?20:27
Bsimslappy: Ok you have two hds correct?20:27
Bsimsdoes your linux and windows installs share a drive?20:28
lappyBsims: Yes, I have an SSD and a HDD.  I want / on the SSD and win7 and /home on HDD.20:28
lappywilee-nilee, I will check on that and let you know.20:29
wilee-nileelappy, Reboot to the bios and move the ssd on top of the sdb, first to be read.20:29
lappyAlright, rebooting now.20:29
dr_williseither drive could be the boot drive. but the ssd would be faster.20:29
Bsimstrue20:30
dr_willisi have the same setup here.20:30
BsimsI'm thinking its a boot order problem20:30
dr_willisi keep ubuntu and grub on tge ssd20:30
wilee-nileedr_jesus, I figured that his windows with the bootflag is on the ssd as well, I suspect the sdb windows has all the windows bootfiles as well.20:30
BsimsI ran into that, I fixed it by having windows on a second drive and aiming grub to the second hd20:31
dr_willismany pcs have a ket at boot to get to a hd boot menu these days20:31
Bsimsdr_willis: yeah f12 on dells isn't it?20:31
dr_willisdel. esc. f8.   on my 3 pca20:31
wilee-nileeHP?20:32
dr_willisi always put a sticker near the key when i get a new pc.   ;-)20:32
dr_willisnetbooks is esc or f1. asus is del.20:33
dr_willisf8 on my hp.20:33
lappywilee-nilee & Bsims:  I'm back.  BIOS does have the SSD set to boot before the HDD, so that's not the problem.20:35
lappyAlso, not sure if this matters, but the bios has UEFI turned on.20:35
qjcuzohey20:35
Bsimslappy: Ok... Hrm, try installing grub to the second hd, that way it /has/ to read grub first20:36
pepe__hi20:36
stephan123hey quick question.  I have a zip file that I need to unzip and keep the directory structure.   when I "$unzip file.zip"   I get the directorys   but not the files in them.20:36
qjcuzowhat's everybody doing20:36
wilee-nileelappy, Ah, UEFI no biggie you just need someone who knows UEFI, I saw them on just a few minutes ago.20:36
BsimsI've not ran into bootloader wars like this before so its just a guess20:36
pepe__hill all people20:36
lappyBsims, when you say install grub do you mean reinstall and choose sdb for bootloader installation?20:37
Bsimslappy: correct, though a full reinstall isn't needed, I think the command is grub-install20:38
Bsimshttp://blog.lokonopa.com/grub-up-windows-7/20:38
lappyOk, I'll read the link and give that a try.20:39
wilee-nileeBsims, This is a UEFI setup are you even familiar with that booting scenario?20:39
Bsimswilee-nilee: ouch didn't see that part20:40
wilee-nileeBsims, cool, lappy That link is not what you need.20:40
lappyWell darn :/20:40
Bsimsthough there is a program called boot-repair will that do it?20:40
wilee-nileelappy, This channel is not the best for UEFI stuff, make a thread at the ubuntu forums there are more there that know and are on daily looking for this stuff.20:41
delacadwaita theme glitches on 12.10. Gedit has black background under tabs. Any known fix?20:41
lappywilee-nilee, I'll go do that right now.20:41
wilee-nileeI only know of two users I see on here that can help, that I have seen,20:42
lappywilee-nilee & Bsims, I appreciate both of you trying to help me.  Have a nice day, guys.20:42
throwed54Have a problem, installed the latest Ubuntu last night, dual boo with win7 From DVDR. The partition allocation wasnt very clear to me, I ended up giving Ubuntu wayyyy too much and not enough for Windows 7. how can I change it?20:43
Bsimsthrowed54: use gparted to resize the partitions20:43
wilee-nileethrowed54, You can resize the ubuntu with a live cd and use the windows partitioner to expand into any unallocated next to it.20:44
throwed54gparted?20:44
jagginessanyone here using a bridging device?20:44
hipasohello20:44
Bsimsthrowed54: its the program used to resize partitions20:45
wilee-nileethrowed54, Boot the ubuntu live cd open gparted and take a screen shot and imagebin it.20:45
throwed54sorry I have to wake up first, to do this with a clear mind. just got out of bed20:45
* Bsims dccs throwed54 some coffee20:46
wilee-nileethrowed54, Cool ubuntu has to be unmounted to resize it is all, windows can do it from the running OS.20:46
throwed54ok how do I do it from windows?20:46
throwed54since im in windows now20:46
hipasohave a problem with xubuntu 12.10..the machine block...the display stop.. anyone can help me?..thanks20:47
wilee-nileethrowed54, YOu can only resize windows from windows.20:47
throwed54oh20:47
Bsimswilee-nilee: so ya can't resize windows from ubuntu anymore?20:47
wilee-nileethrowed54, You can but it is advised that in W7 you use its partitioner.20:47
delacthrowed54: you need to resize (shrink) the ubuntu partition with the gparted. then you can increase the window partition from windows20:48
Bsimswilee-nilee: Ah kk20:48
delacthrowed54: and the ubuntu partition can be only resized when the disk is unmounted. that is why you need to do it from live-cd/usb20:49
wilee-nileeBsims, Safer is all really, a expand is probably okay but I would not bother the windows partitioner will do it in about 2 seconds, gparted will take a lot longer.20:49
Bsimswilee-nilee: makes sense20:50
throwed54ok20:50
throwed54delac: so I need to put the ubuntu cd in a reboot? or I can do it in windows?20:50
throwed54Sorry guys, I'm not a ver 'advanced' user20:51
allanm I'm looking for a way to upgrade apache to 2.22.2 on ubuntu server 10.0420:51
delacthrowed54: yes, boot to the live-cd. windows partitioner cannot resize ubuntu partitions properly20:51
throwed54alrighty20:51
esmeralda<esmeralda> Hello20:51
esmeralda<esmeralda> I installed ubuntu through Wubi on Windows 820:51
esmeralda<esmeralda> It installed successfully20:51
esmeralda<esmeralda> But I couldn't connect to internet through ethernet, only wifi?20:51
FloodBot1esmeralda: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.20:52
throwed54after I resize what should I do, go into windows and use disk management?20:52
[TiZ]Hi... I've got a weird thing going on with GEdit in Xubuntu 12.10. I can't click & drag to highlight any text. Come to think of it, I can't highlight text in any way at all. Not even shift + arrow keys does anything. What's the problem here?20:52
wilee-nileethrowed54, If you boot the live cd and imagebin a gparted screenshot I will tell you what to do exactly.20:52
wilee-nileeor someone will anyway20:52
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wilee-nileethrowed54, Yes after resizing ubuntu you would use the disk management in windows to resize it. But ubuntu uses a extended partition it may be wrapped around the ext 4 OS partiton and the swap or just the swap, so seeing exactly what you have will make things much easier to help.20:55
esmeraldaHELO20:56
d1gitalI always use pubkey authentication for SSH on my server, and suddenly I am not being prompted for a key passphrase, but for a password.  Because I don't have a password, I cannot log in.  Any idea why it would be prompting for a password rather than using my key?  I've tried specifying the key with -i, but with the same result.20:56
throwed54ok well I dont know how to get gparted or take a screen in ubuntu20:56
wilee-nileeesmeralda, Posting the card will probably get you closer to help.20:56
wilee-nileethrowed54, gparted is on the live cd it is in the dash hit the super key and type in gparted, hit the prtsc key and put that image in a imagebin.20:57
throwed54alright brb20:57
throwed54wait, I just boot into ubuntu regularly?20:58
throwed54(with the DVDR in?)20:58
wilee-nileeesmeralda, In ubuntu run in the terminal lspci  and find the card and post it.20:59
tacomasteris there any ubuntu website that shows a big chunk ok projects written in python? i just finished my python book and wanted to start looking at some decent projects to see how they work.20:59
wilee-nileethrowed54, Boot the live dvd20:59
throwed54can you give me a step by step?20:59
Ubuntu_loveis there a way to cross/trigger rx tx on a serial header so  ubuntu will pick it up and do a function?20:59
wilee-nileethrowed54, I'm trying to bro. ;)20:59
throwed54i'm going to email the pic to myself from ubuntu cause I dont have a good IRC client there yet20:59
wilee-nileethrowed54, NO use a xchat on the live cd lets make this much easier.21:00
throwed54ok21:00
throwed54so, i'll put the disk in21:01
throwed54reboot21:01
wilee-nileethrowed54, Going between two computers will just make the already sketchy communication more difficult.21:01
throwed54really dumb question, how do I acess the programs on the live cd?21:01
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wilee-nileethrowed54, THere is the windows key hit it and the dash=serach will open tyoe in gparted then open it.21:02
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zoraelDoes anyone know what the sysfs equavilent of /proc/acpi/wakeup is?21:02
throwed54ok brb ok?21:02
wilee-nileecool21:02
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[TiZ]Hi... I've got a weird thing going on with GEdit in Xubuntu 12.10. I can't click & drag to highlight any text. Come to think of it, I can't highlight text in any way at all. Not even shift + arrow keys does anything. What's the problem here?21:05
mN-How to remove mouse-acceleration?21:12
ageishowto make spare devices become active in mdadm/raid?21:13
lappywilee-nilee, it's me again!21:13
wilee-nileelappy, Cool whats up21:14
lappyI got it working!! :)21:14
lappyI had to install boot-repair and run that.  Then I installed grub to sba and sbb.21:14
wilee-nileelappy, Excellent, sorry I could not help with the finish of it.21:14
wilee-nileelappy, That is a good tool, glad it wlorkewd.21:15
lappyHaha, not a problem.  You were very helpful.  If you hadn't pointed me to the forums, I'd still be toying with it.21:15
wilee-nileeworked*21:15
wilee-nileelappy, POst the thread here if you would.21:15
wilee-nileeif you made one21:15
alsuto whoever made /usr/share/postgresql-common/init.d-functions -- please stop21:16
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lappyI didn't.  I searched to see if anyone else had the same problem first.  That's where I found the answer.21:16
mN-wilee-nilee:  you know how to remove mouse acceleration?21:16
alsuI'm starting to get very annoyed with the weird modifications to packages21:16
wilee-nileemN-, I would look in the mouse and tuchpad app.21:17
wilee-nileetouchpad*21:17
lappyNow though, there's 2 options for windows 7 in GRUB (sba & sbb).  Does anyone know how I edit GRUB to remove one of them?21:17
lappyIt's not a big problem or anything, just a little annoying.21:17
mN-wilee-nilee:  ya but it doesnt remove it, just makes it smaller :c21:17
wilee-nileemN-, I'm not sure really as far as removing it.21:18
mN-howcome linux doesnt just have raw-input for mouse21:18
mN-i mean ubuntu21:18
mN-yeah21:18
aleksandar22is there a package installing gtk source view styles21:18
wilee-nileelappy, You only have one windows installed is this correct?21:19
lappywilee-nilee: correct.  Both options in GRUB boot to the same thing.21:19
wilee-nileelappy, Which is the actual OS the sda or sdb?21:19
lappywilee-nilee: the actual win7 os is installed to sdb.21:20
wilee-nileelappy, I would use gparted to turn of the boot flag on the sda1, and put it on the sdb partition then run sudo update-grub in ubuntu and see if this does it.21:21
wilee-nileeoff*21:21
wilee-nileelappy, Is the sda windows a recovery partition?21:21
herppnp: ? - Lil B - Suck My Dick Hoe21:21
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lappywilee-nilee: No, it is not.21:22
IdleOne!language | herpp21:22
ubottuherpp: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.21:22
lappyI'm installing Gparted now.21:22
IdleOneherpp: disable that NP script please21:22
throwedhi21:23
throwedi'm in ubuntu21:23
wilee-nileelappy, Ah it has the bootflag which grub will see, it might just be that or it has some MS botfiles there can you post the bootinfo script that was run when you used the bootrepair tool or just run it and post the url21:23
throwedi had to d/l xchat and gparted because I dont know how to get them from the CD , it was a full install cd not the live one I THINK?>??21:23
wilee-nileethrowed, Cool you find gpated21:23
wilee-nileegparted*21:23
guntbertalsu: your statement here will have no effect (this is a support channel) - file a bug21:23
lappyIn Gparted sda1 and sdb2 both have boot flags.  So thats probably it.  I'm turning boot flag off sda1 now.21:23
throwedok booting up gparted21:24
wilee-nileelappy, cool just run the sudo update-grub in ubuntu o rewrite the boot menu.21:24
throwedalright21:24
throwedhow how do I paste my screnshot?21:24
wilee-nilee!imagebin | throwed21:24
ubottuthrowed: Screenshots can be made with the [PrtScr] button. Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://imagebin.org/?page=add and post a link to it.21:24
throwedok which screen do you want to see?21:25
throwedjust the main screen?21:25
pagan0nei have a quick question about mounting to an encrypted home folder using fstab, that does not seem to be possible because the home folder does not get decrypted till after login, so fstab refuses to mount it, would it be acceptable to mount it to /tmp/some-folder and LINK to it from the home folder? or would that cause the mounted drive to be wiped or other nasty stuff to happen?21:25
wilee-nileethrowed, JUst the gparted showing the HD21:25
lappywilee-nilee, I updated GRUB.  Anything I need to do?21:25
throwedalrighty21:25
throweddo you mind if I put it on imgur?21:25
wilee-nileelappy, This was after the removal of the bootflag on sda1, does the read out in the terminal show n=bothe windows still?21:26
wilee-nileeboth the* DOH21:26
throwedhere wilee21:26
throwedhttp://i.imgur.com/bWI1n.png21:26
wilee-nileethrowed, AS long as we can see it thats all that matters21:26
lappywilee-nilee, Yes, it says it found both of them.21:27
throwedas you can see I gave ubuntu WAY too much :P21:27
pagan0neanyone?21:27
throwedi want to give it maybe 100 Gigs21:27
throwedand the rest for w721:27
alirezasalam21:27
alirezakasi nist21:27
alireza?21:27
alirezaaz iran21:27
wilee-nileelappy, Run the bootrepair but jsut the bootinfo part ion the first gui and [post the url.21:28
delacthrowed: you are not on the live-cd. as far as I know, it is not possible to resize partition you are running the ubuntu from.21:28
throwedoh21:28
wilee-nileethrowed, So right click  the sda5 then resize and shrink the left side towards the swap, this will take a few minutes.21:29
delacwilee-nilee: he is not on the live-cd21:29
wilee-nileedelac, good call I missed that21:29
throwedI got the 65 bit 695 iso the latest version21:30
throwed64 bit21:30
throwed695 meg21:30
delacthrowed: now when you boot to the live cd, did you get this kind of screen ( http://i.stack.imgur.com/Ppkup.png ) right after boot and you selected "try ubuntu without installing"?21:30
throwedno21:30
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delacthrowed: well, try rebooting with the live-cd on the drive21:31
lappywilee-nilee: here's the bootinfo summary:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1321900/21:31
wilee-nileethrowed, You can't resize the ubuntu unless it is unmounted.21:31
delacthrowed: you should get that screen21:31
throweddelac: its a bit differnt, if put the disc in i get that neat wall paper asking to try or install21:31
delacthrowed: select the try21:32
throweddelac: then what?21:32
delacthrowed: then you boot to live-cd21:32
AndChat50304could someone explain the ubuntu for android app<<<<<<21:32
throweddelac: then I can use gparted? :)21:32
delacthrowed: I mean: selecting the TRY will boot you into the live-cd and from there you can use the gparted21:32
throwedyes21:33
throwedok brb21:33
neeleydoes anyone need a ubuntu one referal link21:33
wilee-nileelappy, So grub is seeing this on sda1  /bootmgr /Boot/BCD that is enough to have it bring it up in the menu. It would be safe to remove it I think but I would get more opinions on this, the best way would be to post this script on the UF and have them take a look.21:33
[zion]if i want to delete files in terminal with similar names for exp. live1 live2 live3 live4 and etch. to delete them all i can use rm -r live*. But if i want to delete only from 1-20 is it will be any command???21:33
lappyAlright, I'll go do that.  Again, thanks for the help.  One of my favorite things about ubuntu is how helpful the community is.21:34
MarisaKonpakuHey all. I just installed java-jre manually, how do i tell ubuntu that it does infact exist so I can run, say java -jar something from konsole21:34
wilee-nileedelac, Thanks for helping throwed, this is a bit of a handholding event. ;)21:35
delacwilee-nilee: seems so21:35
MarisaKonpakuits already sitting in /usr/bin/jre1.7.0_0921:35
delacwilee-nilee: but everybody is a beginner sometime21:35
llutz[zion]: rm live{1..20}21:35
pagan0neno one?21:36
wilee-nileedelac, Exactly I try to be as careful and helpful as I can and remember that. ;)21:36
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wilee-nileelappy, Since this a UEFI bios, I would just check in with ythe ones who really know this stuff as far as the double windows showing in the grub menu, the same /bootmgr /Boot/BCD are on sdb2 as well, but the actual OS sdb1 has alll the normal windows boot files there so it should boot on its own.21:39
guntbertpagan0ne: did you see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedHome ?21:39
t4bIs it possible that ubuntu somehow keeps me from using xinput set-button-map like normal? It only seems to work partly (ex.: I exchange left and right mouse with it, but instead both work like a left mouse button. When I change them back it works again like it's supposed to).21:40
throwedok guys Im on the cd, gparted is loaded21:40
throwedif you could tell me step by step what do to, I want 100 gigs for ubuntu and the rest for windows 7,21:40
throwedexcept the factory OS image, etc21:40
delacthrowed: good, post a another screenshot of the gparted21:40
pagan0neguntbert, reviewing it now, but it seems to be general information about encrypted home dir's im already aware of...21:40
MarisaKonpakuMy google fu has all but left me on this one.. im not even sure how to search for anwers :/21:41
wilee-nileethrowed, It looks like delac  is glad to help you carry on. ;)21:41
delacwilee-nilee: i will let you carry on just in minute :)21:41
wilee-nileehehe okay21:41
throwedhttp://i.imgur.com/7Vca3.png21:41
guntbertpagan0ne: I'm not into any tricks with them - why do you want to do things differently?21:41
t4b(what I actually want to do is change the middle mouse button to two small buttons on my Logitech Marble Mouse. Till now I always used the left one, right now none of them works although they would be if xinput was working like it should)21:42
Kardoshmm21:42
guntbert!who | throwed21:42
ubottuthrowed: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)21:42
throwedsorry21:42
delacwilee-nilee: yeah, I gues you are good to go21:42
pagan0neguntbert, well, my goal is to have /home/<user>/ encrypted so my cache/browsing history etc is all encrypted on disc21:42
[zion]llutz, thank you very much u saved me loads of time :)21:43
pagan0neguntbert, and then to mount in a 2tb drive (un-encrypted) to /home/<user>/Documents for unencrypted storage accessible to the user.21:43
lookingforhelpneed someone for help, but since it's out of topic, can somebody talk to me in private message?21:43
evopilotare there ways of sending anonymous mail from ubuntu?21:44
mN-evopilot: its called creating a hotmail account with fake nickname21:44
icerootevopilot: nothing in the internet is anonymous21:44
mN-iceroot:  well he probably meant "anonymous" mail to some girl or teacher21:45
yeehiI need a file recovery application - with GUI and wizard, hopefully - I reinstalled, expecting to find some files i had still on the /home partition, but they are all gone. I want to get those files back. What should I do?21:45
iceroot!recover | yeehi21:45
ubottuyeehi: Some tools to recover lost data are listed and explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery - Recovering deleted files on !ext3 filesystems can be virtually impossible, although methods that might work is some cases are described at at http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/undelete_ext3.html and http://projects.izzysoft.de/trac/ext3undel21:45
bekksyeehi: Most likely, they are lost.21:45
guntbertpagan0ne: that sounds complicated - the procedure mentioned under "if the user wants to migrate from a non-encrypted..." seems to cover exactly what you need (if I understood you correctly)21:45
evopilotactually there is a girl involved ;)21:46
throwedwilee-nilee: hello?21:46
wilee-nileethrowed, whats up do you have the new screenshot?21:46
throwedhttp://i.imgur.com/7Vca3.png21:46
wilee-nileethrowed, So right click the swap sda6 and click unmount we want the key you see next to it in the left lower panel to be gone, and the key next to sda4 gone as well.21:47
throwedwilee: theres no unmount but theres a swap off21:49
throwedoh you meant sda5?21:50
wilee-nileethrowed, That is correct swap off.21:50
wilee-nileeno the sad621:50
throwedoh ok21:50
wilee-nileesda621:50
throwedwilee: ok its done21:50
wilee-nileethrowed When you see thise keys next to partitions it means it is mounted21:50
throwedYes21:50
throwedthey're gone21:51
wilee-nileethrowed, Now right click the sda5 partition and resize then in the pop up move the left edge to the right to the size you want ubuntu to be.21:51
Dan-Eis it possible to get 12.10 working correctly with GForce 6150 LE21:52
wilee-nileethrowed, After you get the size you want hit the green check in the top panel to run it.21:52
throwedok im done21:53
throwedguess reboot into windows?21:53
curiousxhi, issomeone is having problems with this repo ?:   http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/quantal/Release21:53
throwedsorry, wilee: i'm done21:53
wilee-nileethrowed, No you need to resize the sda4 up aginst the sda5, but click it in the left panel.21:53
throwedhow21:54
wilee-nileethrowed, Right click the sda4 in the list and resize and move it from the left as far as it will go, it will be up against the sda5 then,21:54
throwedwilee: do I have to match exactly im guessing?21:54
curiousxi'm downloading from "main server" -.21:55
wilee-nileethrowed, Guesssing when?21:55
throwedthe sda4 has to be exactly?21:55
wilee-nileethrowed, THe sda4 is called a extended, the sda5 is inside of it if you look at the partitons on the top you will see two different colors do you see this.21:56
unrarHey21:56
throwedits taking a long time to shrink, bear with me21:56
throwed*wilee:21:56
wilee-nileethrowed, the sda4 is green and the sda5 is black.21:56
throwedyes21:56
wilee-nileethrowed, yeah the shrink of the sda5 may take awhile don't interrupt it.21:57
throwedok :)21:57
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throwedso in case you're gone by the time it's done, i just match the sda4, reboot and merge the unallocated in win 7 disk management?21:59
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wilee-nileethrowed, So as I described the sda4 contains the sda5, when the sda5 has shrunk you will just repeat the process on the sda4, only clicking it in the list as the partiotions green outline is hard to click on exactly. you will move the sda4 from the left side all the way to the right it will be up against the sda5 then, this leaves the area between the sda4 and wins as unallocated.21:59
throwedok21:59
wilee-nileethrowed, I doubt you will forget this it is helpful to know this stuff you will be a pro then. ;)22:00
guntbertthrowed: while you wait for the shrinking to finish I want to tell you why it is useful to say a person's nick: many of us a reading several channels and doing other things too - so without the nick we won't notice that you gave an answer at all (ot much later)22:00
throwedguntbert: sorry, I'm so used to Efnet/Undernet chatter22:00
guntbertthrowed: no need to be sorry, it is for your own benefit :)22:01
throwedwilee: Do i have to resize the sda4 manually, or just drag it as you said?22:01
* throwed is confused (22:02
throwed:(22:02
krofnaHow can I see upgrade history for specific package?22:02
lluishola22:03
delacthrowed: shrink it in the same way you did with sda522:03
throwedok22:03
throweddelac: and then pull them together at the top of the screen?22:04
cordovalis there a way to have a terminal open into a special directory in ubuntu?22:04
herppcordoval22:04
cordovalI would like to be able to switch to a predefined directories22:04
lloowenHello all! I'm trying to upgrade a VPS that has 10.04 to 12.04 with no luck. I'm getting an error about a package that has unmet dependencies when I enter the command 'apt-get install update-manager-core' , then on the last line I get E: Broken packages.    I tried 'apt-get install -f' with no luck. Grateful for any help.22:04
herppright click in the directory22:04
herppand open terminal here22:04
cordovalthe terminal i mean22:04
cordovalno but more quick to reuse the same terminal22:04
delacthrowed: yes. the point is to get grey area between the sda2 and sda4/522:04
cordovaland jump between folders fast22:04
cordovallike a boss22:05
herppuh22:05
throweddelac: ok22:05
herppyou can use cd22:05
herppcd /Desktop22:05
herppetc22:05
cordovalno22:05
cordovali have long dirs22:05
FloodBot1herpp: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.22:05
guntbert!enter | herpp22:05
ubottuherpp: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!22:05
cordovali want to remember they are projects22:05
delacthrowed: this grey area is unallocated area, that you can then allocate ot the windows22:05
herpp-_-22:05
throweddelac: yes, thanks22:05
wilee-nileethrowed cool you understand.22:06
d1gitaltime -f "%e" echo hi        -f: command not found.  why isn't time parsing -f as an argument?22:07
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llutz!info time | d1gital:22:08
ubottud1gital:: time (source: time): GNU time program for measuring CPU resource usage. In component main, is standard. Version 1.7-24 (quantal), package size 28 kB, installed size 118 kB22:08
bekksd1gital: Because -f isnt a valid option. Use --format instead22:08
throwedwilee, delac: it's taking forever :(22:09
llutzd1gital: you need this gnu-time22:09
L3topanyone know why my authorized_keys file gets rewritten whenever I upgrade?22:10
cordovalany takers on my cli question remembering folders and their last commands run?22:11
cordovalrigh tthere on the folder and its shortcuts?22:11
guntbertbekks: but  "man time" says differently22:11
throwedwilee: So I guess you meant drag the unallocated to the left between sda2 and the rest? :)22:11
delacthrowed: I'm not sure how long it should take. At what point is it at the moment. (you coukd post screenshot)22:12
llutzguntbert: bekks gnu-time has those options, the shell-builtin (which is used in most cases) hasn't22:12
dr_williscordoval:  its not clear what you mean22:12
throweddelac: sda 5 just finished, sda 4 next right?22:13
UbuntuGuesthi22:13
guntbertllutz: would that qualify as a bug in documentation?22:13
delacthrowed: I think so. wilee-nilee is the expert here... :)22:13
wilee-nileethrowed, I have carefuly explained this, so it is up to you to explain if you do not exactly understand, be careful with the OH you meant. Take a screenshot as suggested and post it.22:14
llutzguntbert: no, since the shell-builtin "time" has no man-page22:14
throwedwilee-nilee: it's not letting me resize it :(22:14
llutzguntbert: gnu-time is not installed by default on most distros22:14
wilee-nileethrowed, Lets see another screenshot.22:14
throwedthe sda 422:14
random2358hi --- I got a broken harddisk. Cannot even boot the ubuntu live system since I get { DRDY ERR } spam -- is it somehow possible to forbid the use of all ata drives ?22:15
throwedwilee-nilee: http://i.imgur.com/zr2N1.png22:15
UbuntuGuestcan someone help; I'm tried to install Ubuntu on my machine (Acer Aspire 5732 running Windows 7) and when I try to start in Ubuntu it works but I have no lighting on the screen and so cannot see what it going on22:15
random2358sorry, it finally booted22:16
random2358is it possible to disable that harddrive on boot anyway ?22:16
lloowenHow can I upgrade 10.04 to 12.04 on a VPS server. I can't install the 'update-manager-core' package to do the upgrade..22:17
gogetalloowen: call the adim and ask him to do it22:18
throwedwilee-nilee: you here?22:18
wilee-nileethrowed, Hehe you shrank it from the right to the left no biggie, you now have to right click that sda5 and in the gui mope the whole partition as it is to the right, hehe you know wj=hat righ and left are don't you this is literally left and right.22:18
lloowengogeta: Thanks for the advice. Surely this can be done without asking the administrator!22:18
wilee-nileemove*22:18
gogetalloowen: its his server so no22:18
pangurHow do I access system administration.  I can get to system settings but not the other.  I want to check that I have the right nvidia driver.22:19
throwedwilee: i just did it :)22:19
gogetalloowen: better then the phone call of i crashed it trying to do a remote upgrade22:19
lloowengogeta: But I have root access!22:19
dr_willispangur:  you could  try running the 'nvidia-settings' tool22:19
wilee-nileethrowed, Sorry for the spelling, when I say left to right I mean actual left to right as you are looking at the screen.22:19
throwedthere22:20
throwedwilee: i did it, resized the other one22:20
pangurIs that just using the terminal or is gui access to it, dr_willis ?22:20
DDAZZAHow can I get the PID of a process with an argument.  http://snipurl.com/25gsrkp22:20
llutzguntbert: for info, if you are interested http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=38845822:20
dr_willispangur:  terminal, or alt-f2 or whatever way you want to run an app...22:20
ubottuDebian bug 388458 in time "time: better shell built-in warning in man page" [Minor,Open]22:20
throwedwilee: there are a few megs difference though :S22:20
pangurthanks, dr_willis22:20
Ubuntu_loveis there a way to cross/trigger rx tx on a serial header so  ubuntu will pick it up and do a function?22:20
throwedwilee: or maybe not megs, but yeah22:20
throwedwilee : I'll take another screenshot ! :)22:21
wilee-nileethrowed, You resized sda5 yes, but you resized thr right side to the left not the left side of the partition to the right, does this make sense.22:21
delacwilee-nilee: actually, is it even possible to resize partition that has stuff in it so that the stuff would need to move?22:21
wilee-nileedelac, I'm not sure I understand.22:22
throwedwilee-nilee: how does this look? :) http://i.imgur.com/allSC.png22:22
gogetadelac: yea you can resize partations with data on them most of the time without any issue22:22
wilee-nileethrowed that is perfect, but I would only do one partition at a time myself, just to make surer nothing gets messed up.22:23
throwedwilee: so shall I need boot into windows 7?22:23
llutzDDAZZA: tried pgrep -f ?22:23
throwedwilee: merge the unallocated ? :)22:23
delacwilee-nilee: He has the ubuntu installed on the sda5on the left and if he shrinks the partition from left, then the data is going to be either remove d or moved to right too. But is it moved?22:23
rafalmthrowed: dont forget to apply the changes22:23
wilee-nileethrowed, YOu need to run what you have by hitting the green check first.22:24
gogetathrowed: yes aculy after you resize and install linux you will need to boot windows to let chkdsk run22:24
throwedwilee: yes I just did22:24
delacwilee-nilee: oh, I gues it is...22:24
throwedgogeta: Gotchya22:24
wilee-nileedelac, Whem ever you resize of move a partition the data is moved.22:24
wilee-nileewhen*22:24
wilee-nileethrowed, So lets see another screenie22:25
throwedok22:25
throwedwilee: it's moving stuff to the right. going to take an hour22:25
somanHi guys! I installed a ru-RU.CP1251 locale but I cannot use it and it is absent in available locales list.. where could be a probelm? Ubuntu 12.04 locale -a out => http://paste.kde.org/587210/13517223/22:26
gogetaThe biggest thing E17 brings to the table is universal compositing. This means you can use a composited desktop without any GPU acceleration at all, and use it nicely. We don't rely on software fallback implementations of OpenGL . We literally have a specific software engine that is so fast that some developers spent weeks using it accidentally, not realizing they had software compositing on their setup."22:26
wilee-nileethrowed, I figured as such. Now since you have moved that apartition around so much it may not boot so we can fix that when we get there, this will also be done from the live cd again.22:26
gogetae17 just jumped way ahed of gnome 3 and unity22:27
DDAZZAllutz: thanks22:27
llutzgogeta: this is ubuntu-support, not e17-fanboy-channel22:27
throwedwilee-nilee: ok I just have to go out for a bit, i'll be back in half n hour22:27
gogetallutz: lol22:27
wilee-nileethrowed, cool22:27
cordovaldr_willis: hmm22:28
cordovalsimple though, like i want quick access to preset project directories22:28
dr_willisin bash?22:29
cordovalwith just one terminal window, so easy switch. like ~ sucd project1     and extra is remember the last command there22:29
cordoval~sucd project222:29
cordoval~ pwd and bam22:29
dr_willisbash has some cd shortcut feature i recall reading about. but never used.22:30
dr_willisnever seen a per directory history feature.22:30
cordovalurl?22:30
dr_willisin the bash docs..22:30
cordovalper directory history is a must22:30
cordovalhave22:30
dr_willissounds like you may be needing to do some scripting and using the prompt features to run a command on each return perhaps.22:31
bekkscordoval: Thats not implemented, in noknown shell.22:31
dr_willisunless theres some other shells with the feature.  ive never seen it22:31
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Dan-Ecan someone tell me how to get 12.10 back to original in terminal. I did a fallback and want to get back to original.22:32
gogetadr_willis: does he mean screen22:32
JohnTeddyDoes the ubuntu 12.10 alternative i386 exist? Is there no more alternative version for downloading?22:32
cordovalthanks22:32
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dr_willisDan-E:  back to original what?22:32
dr_willisJohnTeddy:  altnerive cd is gone.22:32
Dan-Ewhen I installed 12.1022:32
dr_willisDan-E:  delete the  various setting directories in your home.. is one way22:32
AurigaHowdy all.22:33
JohnTeddydr_willis: Can i still do encrypted hard disks during the install process?22:33
dr_willisDan-E:  to reset user settings.22:33
JohnTeddy(That's the only reason I always downloaded the alternative)22:33
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dr_willisJohnTeddy:  no idea. i never use the feature.22:33
pangurWhen I run nvidia-settings, I get this message: You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver.  Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server.22:33
herppnp: Eminem - The Real Slim Shady22:33
dr_willispangur:  you have insgtalled the nvidia drivers?22:33
kheeperanyone have experince with death disk22:34
JohnTeddydr_willis: http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2012/09/04/full-disk-encryption-and-lvm-configuration-in-ubuntus-graphical-installer/ , it seems supported fine22:34
JohnTeddythanks22:34
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pangurdr_willis, I had them when I dual-booted win7 but, in light of your question, I realise that they are no longer around - as I have removed my win7 entirely.22:35
Dan-Edr_willis isn't there a way to reset in terminal? dont like to delete things I am new to ubuntu22:35
dr_willisDan-E:  deleteing your old config files is in the terminal..22:35
dr_willisDan-E:  make some Backupd-settings dir and move them all there ifyou want22:35
pangurSo, without Windows, I will not be able to install nvidia drivers, I imagine.22:36
dr_willisa few of the tweak tools  like ubuntu-tweak MIGHT still have some reset settings features.. but i dont use them mich22:36
pangurNever mind, I guess that I do not need them anyway.22:36
dr_willispangur:  i dont see how having windows installed or not is related to you installing the nvidia drivers on the linux system,...22:37
dr_willis;)22:37
random2358is it possible to disable all ata probes on boot ?22:37
JohnTeddyIs it possible to do a fresh format of Ubuntu with the 12.10 installer.. but to move my /home/john, to /home/john/backup first during the install? and wipe over everything else?22:37
willdabeastI have just set up my internet to a an N+ Router, I have also set up an access point on a different floor using a Wireless G Router. Am I limiting my wireless broadband by using a G instead of an N as an access point? (FIOS)22:38
pangurOK, I shall think about it dr_willis.  I  am not sure that I need nvidia drivers anyway as I am not aware of lacking anything through not having them installed.22:39
dr_willisJohnTeddy:  if you test the os first so you are on the live cd/desktop. you could mount your home dir.  and move things.. but i have a /home/ seperate and never needed to move it.22:39
Dan-EHow about reinstalling thru terminal?22:40
dr_willisJohnTeddy:  if you are not with a seperate partion for /home/ well.. that makes it harder22:40
dr_willisDan-E:  reinstalling what?22:40
Dan-Ethe ubuntu operating system 12.1022:40
dr_willisDan-E:  what settings are you wanting to reset EXACTLY? and why?22:41
newbie_to_ubuntuso I'm new to ubuntu22:41
Dan-EI want the side tool bar. Now I have the one at the top and bottom22:41
newbie_to_ubuntuI've been trying out using Linux as my base OS for the past week or so22:41
newbie_to_ubuntuI'm running 12.0422:42
newbie_to_ubuntulots of things work flawlessly22:42
newbie_to_ubuntuI'm having many problems with anything multimedia related22:42
newbie_to_ubuntui can't get sound to work properly on my system at all22:42
pangurHow would I find out what nvidia driver I require?22:43
newbie_to_ubuntuany advice on how to setup sound and video so I can watch a youtube video?22:43
xanguaDan-E: just log out and select unity22:43
blacknessnewbie_to_ubuntu, are you doing it from a server install?22:43
pepeedoes anyone knows if there will be a 3.6.4 kernel for quantal in http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/  ?22:43
Dan-Eits not there22:43
pangurHow would I work out what graphics card I have?22:43
newbie_to_ubuntuI installed from the web to my laptop22:43
MonkeyDustnewbie_to_ubuntu  in a terminal, alsamixer, mm means mute, press m to unmute22:43
newbie_to_ubuntuthe install went fine no issues22:43
blacknesspangur, check dmesg and see if there is anything that states your card, that is a quick way to tell22:44
dr_willisDan-E:  be sure you have the ubuntu-desktop package. and when you are on the login screen select 'ubuntu' not gnome or gnome-classic or other sessions. If you delete your .dmrc file that should also reset it back to the default unity desktop22:45
dr_willisDan-E:  reinstalling the whole os for this would be a little overkill22:45
blacknesspangur, also try: lshw -C display22:45
newbie_to_ubuntui tried using the guayadeque player and I keep getting garbled noise22:45
blacknessyou dont have to reinstall to get a GUI setup on a server build.22:45
newbie_to_ubuntui also tried playing youtube videos and this only sporadically works not consistently works22:45
blacknessnewbie_to_ubuntu, are you saving the youtube videos to your disc?22:46
Dan-E thanks22:46
newbie_to_ubuntublackness: no i just want to watch them realtime22:46
pangur product: C79 [GeForce 9100M G]22:46
blacknesspangur, that is you're video card.22:46
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pangurThanks blackness  :)22:46
blacknessand i believe the .381 build from nvidia covers that card22:46
dr_willis\i always use the various youtube downloader plugins, or flash-video replacer extensions to watch my flash in VLC :)22:46
newbie_to_ubuntuin one case I just want to listen to my classical radio station WCPE through an ogg vorbis format22:47
pangurThanks again, blackness.22:47
blacknessi use terminal to wget them, and ffmpeg to convert to .mp4.22:47
blacknesswelcome pangur.22:47
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blacknessdont you use flash-installer+firefox to view youtube?22:47
dr_willisi noticed on 12.10 with  my  desktop and some players i have to select alsa instead of pulse audio as the sound output or i get staticy sound sometimes..22:48
newbie_to_ubuntui used adobe flash player and chrome to try and view youtube22:48
blacknesssince i went from 12.04 to 12.10 i cant use pulse at all.22:48
dr_willisI try to avoide flash as much as possible ;)22:48
newbie_to_ubuntui tried un-installing pulse22:48
blacknessnewbie_to_ubuntu, use firefox. sudo apt-get install firefox and see if that works22:48
newbie_to_ubuntui'd like to avoid flash too, but google uses it22:48
blacknessyou cant avoid flash anymore, its too main stream.22:48
newbie_to_ubuntui have firefox installed let me try it using firefox again22:48
dr_willisnewbie_to_ubuntu:  with the flash downloaders and flash-replacer extensions most sites i watch flash... but in vlc. ;)22:49
newbie_to_ubuntudr_willis how to I select also ?22:49
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newbie_to_ubuntuso the vlc thing? my understanding is that in the US it's not legal22:49
dr_williseach player has its own settings.. i just use vlc.22:49
blacknessvlc is legal in the US.22:49
blacknessi dont see why a video program is illegal.22:49
newbie_to_ubuntuso vlc is using proprietary codecs and they are infringing on the patents is my understanding22:50
dr_willispatent  and legal stupidy cause it to have some restrictions.. not illeaglity...22:50
newbie_to_ubuntubut I could be wrong22:50
newbie_to_ubuntui'm no expert on the subject but I was researching it for a couple hours today22:50
Persilladehello22:51
blacknessi believe its the divx codec that causes this problem.22:51
Persilladewould a 2 years old nvidia 440GT would be supported fully by ubuntu ?22:51
Ubuntu_loveis there a way to cross/trigger rx tx on a serial header so  ubuntu will pick it up and do a function?22:51
newbie_to_ubuntublackness: that's one of the codecs that is an issue22:51
blacknessbut then again, i installed it without any notes stating it is illegal.22:51
Ubuntu_loveis there a way to cross/trigger rx tx on a serial header so  ubuntu will pick it up and do a function?22:51
blacknessPersillade, i have a 440. and im on 12.1022:51
dr_willisUbuntu_love:  tried asking in #hardware if its doable at all?22:51
blacknessor i might be on 570.22:51
Persilladedo you have 3D support blackness ?22:52
newbie_to_ubuntuso blackness you've been using vlc and it's worked well for you?22:52
blacknessPersillade, i dont use/care for 3D so im not sure.22:52
blacknessi use VLC for anything video related.22:53
Persilladeok thanks22:53
newbie_to_ubuntugot it22:53
blacknessbut i tend to convert my .flv to .mp4 before i view mine.22:53
newbie_to_ubuntuso what about the ubuntu-restricted-extras22:53
newbie_to_ubuntui haven't installed those either22:54
blacknessnot sure, i havnt installed those.22:54
blacknessill look them up for a second. newbie_to_ubuntu22:54
vfwnewbie_to_ubuntu: You'll probably want to install them.22:54
Dan-EThank You again I didn't have ubuntu desktop installed!22:54
JohnTeddyjohn@paloalto:~/Downloads$ md5sum /dev/sr022:55
JohnTeddye87d70b6ecc351df77045dc1b9642d05  /dev/sr022:55
blacknessnewbie_to_ubuntu, from what i see, only divx is causing issues. but if you convert to any open codec, it wont be illegal imo22:55
JohnTeddyMy disc drive doesn't match the iso file (b4191c1d1d6fdf358c154f8bf86b97dd  ubuntu-12.10-desktop-i386.iso). Did I do something wrong or is this normal?22:55
dr_willisDan-E:  so whatg did you install exactly? xubuntu? lubuntu?22:55
blacknessJohnTeddy, your burnt CD MD5 doesnt match the iso?22:56
Dan-Eoriginally?22:56
dr_willisdivx is just a variant of mpeg4 i thought.. but codecs can get confuseing. ;)22:56
blacknessits not exactly the same, frame compression is different.22:56
Dan-Exubuntu22:57
dr_willisDan-E:  that would give you the xfce desktop by default then.22:57
JohnTeddyblackness: I guess, if I'm doing it right.22:58
JohnTeddyThe md5sum that is.22:58
wilee-nileeJohnTeddy, Checking the hash of a cd is done in a specialized way, did you use the md5sum wiki to do this correctly?22:58
JohnTeddywilee-nilee: no, I've done this in the past and it matches though.22:59
wilee-nileejohnteddy the wiki staes that they will not be the same.22:59
JohnTeddyWhen I pop the cd into my laptop, Ubuntu installer pops up fine.22:59
gogetadr_willis: so is h264 xvid abd so on22:59
JohnTeddywilee-nilee: Do you know why the change? I don't recall it being like this.22:59
gogetaand22:59
wilee-nilee!md5sum | JohnTeddy22:59
ubottuJohnTeddy: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows22:59
rozmuqhi. i downloaded window 8 iso file and i have a usb 8gb.. how do i make it bootable so i can install win?23:00
xanguarozmuq: sounds like a windows question23:00
dr_willisgogeta:  i always got to go look at the wikipedia pages to rember it all..23:00
gogetarozmuq: ask microsoft23:00
wilee-nileeJohnTeddy, I am not sure other then when I looked at the wiki I noticed the specificities of a cd check.23:00
gogetarozmuq: there is a windows channel on hear23:00
dr_willisrozmuq:  #windows may know. you might just need to dd the iso to the flash.23:00
miwarozmuq: you should be able to pretty much just copy the files from the iso to the usb drive23:01
JohnTeddywilee-nilee: I think I did the wrong /dev/blah, I am doing it again with /dev/cdrom as the wiki says you linked me to.23:01
JohnTeddywilee-nilee: Thanks!23:01
wilee-nileeJohnTeddy, YOU can check the cd from a boot to the first gui, and with these instructions from the wiki.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM#Check_the_CD23:01
dr_willis  /dev/cdrom is normally a link to /dev/sr0 or sr123:02
JohnTeddydr_willis: I see.23:02
JohnTeddyWhatever then, I'll just assume it's right.23:03
JohnTeddyI think the Ubuntu installer has some internal hash checking it does.23:03
JohnTeddyIf it tells me something is wrong I'll re-burn.23:03
JohnTeddyIf not, I'll proceed.23:03
blacknessJohnTeddy, if the md5 doesn't match, you should slow down the burner and reburn.23:03
blacknessi wouldnt try that if it was me JohnTeddy but i recommend to reburn the iso at a slower speed on a different brand cd23:04
JohnTeddyblackness: There is blank space that is changing the hash at the end of the dvd apparently.23:04
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JohnTeddymeh, I'll rely on Canonical installing some hash checking logic on the installer.23:04
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Jordan_UJohnTeddy: The Ubuntu installer does have an option for checking its own disk integrity, but it's not a part of the normal install process.23:04
JohnTeddyJordan_U: I see, ok I'll try that when the installer starts.23:04
dr_willisits befor the installer isent it? i forget. been so long.23:05
EDinNYHow do I set which servers are on at boot?23:05
Jordan_UJohnTeddy: You'll have to press a key while the "keyboard = accessibility" symbol is on the screen,23:05
gogetadr_willis: isnt it at the boot loader23:05
burdickjpI'm trying to boot the Kubuntu 12.10 install media on a Dell Latitude ST tablet.  It has a single USB port.  No matter what I try I cannot get the tablet to recognize the USB boot media.  I've seen this on other devices, and was able to switch USB ports and have it boot, but this only has the one port.23:06
dr_willisEDinNY:  upstart managed services have a .conf file you can alter/rename to controll  them23:06
gogetaburdickjp: its x86 or what23:07
burdickjpintel atom z67023:07
burdickjpx86 32 bit23:07
EDinNYdr_willis: I can use upstart to stop the dhcp server from starting?23:07
Danonhappy spirit day eveybody23:07
BarkingFishdr_willis, thanks - you may just have helped me too :) Where do you find those files?23:07
dr_willisEDinNY:  if its managed by upstart - yes.23:07
gogetaburdickjp: probly need to tell it to boot usb or soemthing23:07
burdickjphave USB set as first boot option23:08
dr_willisupstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook  i think has the good docs on upstart23:08
gogetaburdickjp:  then check to make shure you set it correctly23:08
gogetaburdickjp: i always use unetbootin23:08
burdickjppulled up boot menu, which lists bootable devices, and USB was there ONCE, booted the media, had to reboot, it's no longer there23:08
gogetaburdickjp: sounds like you curppted it23:09
burdickjpi used dd if= of= to make the disk23:09
burdickjpi've remade the disk.  still no boot23:09
shwaiilHi23:09
gogetaburdickjp: format disk to vfat23:09
Jordan_Uburdickjp: And the media that successfully booted was the USB drive with the dd'd iso?23:09
burdickjpjordan_u: yes23:09
shwaiilQ: The left menu / dock disappeared after I disabled Window manager from Compiz, how to open compiz, or terminal or anything really ? Tks23:09
blacknessJohnTeddy, are you using the DVDr as a multisession or single?23:10
Jordan_Uburdickjp: Does the BIOS mention anything about UEFI, or "legacy boot"?23:10
AquethysHi, I'm on an HP Pavilion dv6-7043cl and have successfully burned a CD with Ubuntu 12.10 (screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/OxqQn.png) I'm having trouble booting from CD, from what I've googled you're supposed to press F10 when the hp splash appears but that doesn't appear..or it just flashes barely. If I press F10 it makes some really loud noise. What am I doing wrong?23:10
gogetaburdickjp: i ment usb23:10
blacknessburdickjp, usb?23:10
burdickjpjordan_u: not that I can see.  it's a very limited bios23:10
blacknessAquethys, hit F12.23:10
blacknessF12 is the boot menu on newer systems.23:11
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burdickjpi've got 12.04, win8, and win7 installed on this thing, so it has booted from USB in the past23:11
dr_willisshwaiil:  http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html23:11
gogetaburdickjp: usind dd can make things strange when it messes up23:11
burdickjpI'm going to redownload the image23:11
blacknessshutdown the machine with the cd in, as soon as it powers on, tap F12 with a second between them, wait for a boot menu to show, and select usb/cdrom23:11
gogetaburdickjp: you probly need to reset that entire usb stick23:11
alandebhi man23:11
alandebhelp-me please ---> http://pastebin.com/UQs93m6D23:12
burdickjpreformat all 3 thumb drives i've tried23:12
burdickjpand start over23:12
Jordan_Uburdickjp: Just check the md5sum, if it's good then redownloading is pointless.23:12
Jordan_U!md5 | burdickjp23:12
ubottuburdickjp: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows23:12
shwaiildr_willis: tks for looking, but how to open terminal ? I've got no menu access, wondering if there's a hotkey23:12
burdickjpthere's a newer nightly23:12
gogetaburdickjp: format as vfat23:12
blacknessburdickjp, if your using a USB drive, use use-creater-gtk. if you have a GUI. and on ubuntu already :P23:12
gogetaburdickjp: if your formating to them ext the device will not see it23:12
throwedwilee-nilee: Hello, i'm back! 5 minutes left on gparted! :)23:12
burdickjpwill vfat23:12
dr_willisshwaiil:  alt-f2 gnome-terminal is one way23:12
burdickjpappreciate it23:12
dr_willis!terminal23:13
ubottuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome), K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE), or Menu -> Accessories -> LXTerminal (LXDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal23:13
wilee-nileethrowed, Cool so give us a screen shot before you reboot to make sure all is good.23:13
throwedwilee: sure :)23:13
gogetaburdickjp: its relly fat32 but gparted calls it vfat23:14
throwedwilee: an error occured :(23:17
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throwedwilee: "cant have any overlapping partitions"23:18
throwedwilee: it moved sda5 to the right fine, but not sda423:18
aquethysHi again. So I hit F12 to boot from CD on my Hp Pavilion dv6-7043cl and when I hit select advanced boot options I only get the following: Repair, the Safe modes, enable boot logging, low resolution video, last known good config, directory services restore mode, debug mode, disable auto restart and disable driver signature enforcement. None of these are boot from CD. What am I doing wrong? :|23:19
aquethyso_o23:19
throwedwilee-nilee: you with me?23:20
wilee-nileethrowed, yep23:20
throwedwilee: it wont move the second one, overlapped partition not allowed23:20
aquethysHi again. So I hit F12 to boot from CD on my Hp Pavilion dv6-7043cl and when I hit select advanced boot options I only get the following: Repair, the Safe modes, enable boot logging, low resolution video, last known good config, directory services restore mode, debug mode, disable auto restart and disable driver signature enforcement. None of these are boot from CD. What am I doing wrong? :|23:21
Muelliaquethys: you are repeating your question too often.23:21
worklesshi23:21
wilee-nileethrowed, Yeah that is why I suggested moving both partitions is not advised at once, can you resize the sda 4 up against the sda5 as of now?23:22
worklessI've a problem with grub2.0, it works fine but grub.cfg is just...ignored? either there is an error in it or something weird is going on23:22
shwaiilQ: I use a program that uses lot's of key combinations, Blender. Ubuntu 12.10 doesn't let me use this hotkeys basically. Is there a way to disable "unity" hotkeys or something ?! Without having to go trough it individually on compiz or whatever it is called23:22
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wilee-nileeworkless, Can you give more detail what error are you seeing and when?23:23
worklessi can boot fine by typing linux /boot/vmlinux... root=/dev/sda initrd /boot/initrd.... boot23:23
worklesswilee-nilee: nothing! just the minimal console23:23
throwedwilee: no, that's not working either23:23
wilee-nileethrowed, lets see a screen shot, we may just have to set you up with a fresh install and call it a day to be honest, the ubuntu has nothing in it right.23:24
throwednothing, no23:24
throwedbut I'd like my windows 7 space back23:24
wilee-nileeworkless, Can you get to the desktop, it sounds as if you can.23:25
sha1sumHey all. Is there a way to balance sockets between two different interfaces? I.e. I have a WLAN adapter and a LAN adapter with two separate IP's, and for every socket connection an alternate interface is used.23:25
wilee-nileethrowed, that is no problem stay with me here.23:25
throwedwilee: http://i.imgur.com/oqL7f.png23:25
Jordan_Uworkless: Did you run grub-install manually at some point?23:25
worklesswilee-nilee: i'm right now, no problem whatsoever booting in, but i need to do it MANULLY >_<23:25
bitcycleHey all.  Can someone advise a good and easy irc server that I can run on my debian machine?  I've never set one up before.23:25
worklessJordan_U: sure did23:25
Jordan_Uworkless: What grub-install command did you run?23:26
vfwsha1sum: What exactly are you wanting to do?23:26
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worklessJordan_U: grub-install /dev/sda, grub 2.00 is installed in MBR, the problem is the configuration somewhere23:26
Jordan_Uworkless: Do you have a separate /boot/ partition?23:26
Sazzobitcycle, thre are some in the software center23:27
wilee-nileethrowed, So we can keep trying to mess with what you have or just delete it and build the correct partitioning and do a manual install, then boot to windows to resize it.23:27
sha1sumvfw: I am using applications sometimes that use a large amount of connections at the same time, and I have a WLAN adapter on one network, and a LAN adapter on another network, so I was hoping that I could double traffic by using every other one for each connection.23:27
worklessJordan_U: nope23:27
throwedwilee: delete then23:27
Sazzobitcycle, FYI:  https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/irc-server.html23:27
bitcycleSazzo, Are there any that you would recomment?23:27
Sazzobitcycle, no...but that list might help.23:27
throwedwilee: I would like to reinstall ubuntu at a later date, and just have my windows space back23:27
wilee-nileethrowed, so you want to delete and install?23:27
Jordan_Uworkless: Please run boot info script and pastebin the RESULTS.txt which it produces.23:27
Jordan_U!bootinfo | workless23:27
ubottuworkless: Boot info script is a usefull script for diagnosing boot problems. Run the script following the directions here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1291280 and then look at RESULTS.txt (or !pastebin it for others to look at).23:27
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throwedwilee: delete and install some other time, but have my windows space back23:28
sha1sumvfw: or is that up to the application layer?23:28
vfwsha1sum: I doubt you'll find such a venture worthwhile.23:28
sha1sumOk. Figured it was worth a shot.23:28
wilee-nileethrowed, If you delete ubuntu you will have to reload the MS bootloader to the mbr to boot windows.23:28
throwedok nom23:28
throwednm23:28
throwed*wilee: ok nm23:28
worklessJordan_U:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1322085/23:29
throwedwilee: I have to leave to my parents soon for dinner, I dont know what to do? will you be here later tonight?23:29
wilee-nileethrowed, So as it is you may not have a boot right now anyway, as you have moved the sda5 partition around a bunch.23:29
wilee-nileethrowed, Yes I will be here for about the next 6 hours or so.23:30
throwedalright23:30
throwedI'll be back later then23:30
throwedthanks for your help23:30
wilee-nileethrowed, cool23:30
XiaolinDraconisunetbootin is failing to see my ntfs flash drive23:31
XiaolinDraconisim trying to get a windows iso installed to usb23:31
wilee-nileeXiaolinDraconis, what version of windows?23:31
XiaolinDraconis723:31
wilee-nileeXiaolinDraconis, Do you have access to a windows machine?23:32
Jordan_Uworkless: That is output from boot repair, is that the current state of things or did boot repair do any operations after it ran boot info script to produce that output?23:32
XiaolinDraconisno23:32
shwaiilQ: I use a program that uses lot's of key combinations, Blender. Ubuntu 12.10 doesn't let me use this hotkeys basically. Is there a way to disable "unity" hotkeys or something ?! Without having to go trough it individually on compiz or whatever it is called23:32
XiaolinDraconisthanks to advice from this room, i no longer have a windows partition23:32
aquethysHi again. So I hit F12 to boot from CD on my Hp Pavilion dv6-7043cl and when I hit select advanced boot options I only get the following: Repair, the Safe modes, enable boot logging, low resolution video, last known good config, directory services restore mode, debug mode, disable auto restart and disable driver signature enforcement. None of these are boot from CD. What am I doing wrong? :|23:32
wilee-nileeXiaolinDraconis, I never got unetbootin to work this way but I can set you up with one I use that does work23:32
wilee-nileeif needed23:33
worklessJordan_U: that's the current that of things, nothing changed even if tried to23:33
XiaolinDraconiswilee-nilee, whats the app?23:33
worklessJordan_U: the problem is always the same, grub.cfg seems to be ignored23:33
Jordan_Uworkless: What happens if you run "configfile $prefix/grub.cfg" at the grub shell?23:34
worklessJordan_U: let me reboot23:34
wilee-nileeXiaolinDraconis, this is it you can use a fat 32 here, just build it with gparted the app is picky. http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/23:34
XiaolinDraconiswilee-nilee, fat32 for a win7 iso?23:35
worklessJordan_U: it does a screen reset, no output :/23:35
Jordan_Uworkless: What about "source $prefix/grub.cfg"?23:35
worklessJordan_U: nothing23:36
wilee-nileeXiaolinDraconis, Yep it is a multi boot usb loader I have mine setup with fat32 and a ton of ISO's on it including W7, it is 16 gigs.23:36
Jordan_Uworkless: Does "cat $prefix/grub.cfg" spit out what looks like your grub.cfg to the screen?23:36
worklessJordan_U: this is interesting: "attempt to read or write outside hd0"23:37
wilee-nileeXiaolinDraconis, You can also just extract that ISO to the usb with a ntfs if it has a boot flag and it will work.23:37
worklessJordan_U:  but tabbing the file works23:37
Jordan_Uworkless: That explains it then. You have a buggy BIOS which can't properly handle large disks.23:38
worklessJordan_U: then i should install grub with a special flag?23:38
worklessJordan_U: what i wonder is, why i can boot from console without problem by typing the boot process manually?23:39
Jordan_Uworkless: You can try "grub-install --disk-module=native /dev/sda" to have grub use its own native disk drivers rather than relying on the BIOS, or you can make a separate small /boot/ partition near the beginning of the drive so that everything that needs to be read by the BIOS is guaranteed not to be beyond your BIOS's limit.23:39
pepeedoes anyone knows if there will be a 3.6.4 kernel for quantal in http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/  ?23:41
Mulder911hello23:42
Jordan_Uworkless: Because, as shown by boot info script, your kernel and initrd files are stored between 4 and 18 GiB into the drive (partly by chance, partly because they were written during installation, and files tend to be written to the beginning of a filesystem first) whereas your grub.cfg is stored 256 GiB into the drive.23:42
pepeehi Mulder91123:42
OerHekspepee no they jumped to 3.723:42
Jordan_Uworkless: So if you had continued to upgrade Ubuntu, eventually newer kernels would have been installed and they probably would have ended up past your BIOS's limit as well.23:43
worklessJordan_U:  :) thanks, how can i force the --disk-module=native option for each grub update?23:43
pepeeOerHeks, ah, thanks23:43
Mulder911i need help with ubuntu upgrade23:43
pepeeMulder911, just ask23:43
Jordan_Uworkless: That's the main downside, there is no good way to do so in Ubuntu :(23:43
Mulder911after updating i`ve this problem23:43
Mulder911/proc/88/oom_adj is deprecated, please use /proc/88/oom_score_adj23:43
Mulder911and it`s stuck23:43
joker2uwhat is the buffer/ paste to url for ubuntu23:44
pepeejoker2u, use paste.ubuntu.com or pastebin.com23:45
Mulder911/proc/88/oom_adj is deprecated, please use /proc/88/oom_score_adj anyone know how to repair this?23:45
pepeeMulder911, where does that message come from?23:46
worklessJordan_U: :( that may be a problem, it's the 10y old sister laptop! mmhmm i will make a /boot partition to avoid any problem23:46
Mulder911when system boots23:46
wilee-nileeXiaolinDraconis, You want to just extract to the ntfs usb?23:46
Mulder911after updating ubuntu23:46
worklessJordan_U: thanks! :) that was _really_ getting me xD23:47
XiaolinDraconiswilee-nilee, im attempting that now but the archive manager is taking forever to do it23:47
Jordan_Uworkless: You're welcome :)23:47
bekksMulder911: Which process is running with PID 88 ?23:47
wilee-nileeXiaolinDraconis, Yeah it does, did you mount the ISO?23:47
joker2upepe explain sir23:47
XiaolinDraconisno but im about to cancel and do it that way23:47
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pepeeMulder911, it doesn't say any other thing? can you read the logs (dmesg or /var/log/syslog )?23:48
wilee-nileeXiaolinDraconis, Right click the ISO then click archive mounter, then exstract with the archive manager. Make sure that the usb has a bootflag though with gparted.23:49
worklessJordan_U: ops xD no device connected, prefix not set23:49
Mulder911searching 1 sec23:49
delacmy 3G usb stick (huawei) sometimes (maybe crashes or something) disconects so that the networkmanager doesnt even see it anymore (lsusb  does). However networkmanager cant do anything until the device is physically remounted. Any fixes?23:49
joker2uwhat is the buffer/ paste to url for ubuntu23:50
XiaolinDraconiswilee-nilee, archive mounter is failing to mount it, well it says its mounted but when i navigate to the directory all that it shows is a blank readme.txt file23:50
wilee-nileeXiaolinDraconis, Do you have the archive manager still open?23:50
XiaolinDraconiswilee-nilee, no23:50
MonkeyDustjoker2u  what are you trying to do?23:50
pepeeMulder911, do you have any other kernels installed in that machine? try booting one of those23:51
Mulder911i have23:51
Mulder911i`m on the old one23:51
wilee-nileeXiaolinDraconis, Hmm if it is mounted then it should show all the files on the ISO in the manager, mine does right now.23:51
bekksMulder911: So which process is running with PID 88 ?23:51
XiaolinDraconisyeah the archive mounter is acting funny for whatever reason23:52
pepeeMulder911, what kernel is failing to boot?23:52
XiaolinDraconisi thought it was due to the huge filename so i cahnged it, but the mounter still shows it as the long name23:52
Mulder911new one 3. something23:52
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wilee-nileeXiaolinDraconis, This is mine, but this is also a certified MS ISO, just saying.  http://imagebin.org/23410923:53
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XiaolinDraconiswilee-nilee, ive got one of those too, saw it in the ms forums23:54
wilee-nileeXiaolinDraconis, YOU get it from digital river?23:54
Mulder911i`ll restart system again and check23:54
pepeeMulder911, not needed23:55
Mulder911i`ll be in a minute23:55
Mulder911?23:55
XiaolinDraconiswilee-nilee, dont know what digital river is, i got it from official microsoft forums23:55
Linkandzeldahi, was wondering if anyone could help. ive got a macbook air with windows 7 bootcamp and os x installed. my goal is to replace os x with ubuntu and without touching windows 7 install. can anyone tell me where to begin? thanks23:55
XiaolinDraconisgoogle windows 7 and saw a large list of official iso's free to dl23:55
MonkeyDust!mac > Linkandzelda start here23:55
ubottuLinkandzelda, please see my private message23:55
wilee-nileeXiaolinDraconis, Cool digital river was a MS official link for ISO's at one time and you can still get them there.23:56
blacknessLinkandzelda, when booting the ubuntu install, select the OSX partition.23:56
blackness!mac23:56
ubottuFor help on installing and using Ubuntu on a mac, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages23:56
Mulder911so?23:56
XiaolinDraconiswilee-nilee, oh ok yeah there was talk about that in the comments23:56
wilee-nileeXiaolinDraconis, How big is the ISO?23:56
beliashi guys.. i need help with icq data recovery :)23:56
beliassomeone please?23:56
Linkandzeldathanks, let me see what i can do from here23:57
pepeeMulder911, you can open (or paste) /boot/grub/grub.cfg to see what kernels do you have23:57
pepeeMulder911, and old logs are in /var/log/23:57
XiaolinDraconiswilee-nilee, 2gigs or so23:57
blacknessMulder911, apt-get install pastebinit; cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg | pastebinit23:57
pepeein fact, the logs contain the kernel version23:58
Mulder9113.2.6 is the problem23:58
Mulder9112.6.32-44 is my present23:58
wilee-nileeXiaolinDraconis, Cool mine is 2.6 a 32 bit with the sp1 on it, I was just checking if it was not just the service pack is all.23:58
blacknessMulder911, are you using 12.04 ?23:58
pepeeMulder911, in a terminal, type:   grep -n "oom_adj is deprecated" /var/log/*23:59
XiaolinDraconiswilee-nilee, http://i.imgur.com/LeaiF.png i think these locked files are the trouble makers23:59
XiaolinDraconiswilee-nilee, seems i got some leftovers from another project23:59
bekksMulder911: Or finally just tell us which process is running as the PID mentioned.23:59

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