[00:00] <jrib> satwood: what kind of conf files?
[00:00] <ActionParsnip> satwood: possibly, they are only files, so you can just rename the original back in.
[00:00] <Netham45> Also, once I switch to an X console, I can't switch to any text-based VTs. It's either solid black, or I experience a full system lock.
[00:00] <brontosaurusrex> stephanb: ok, i get it now
[00:00] <satwood> jrib: ActionParsnip: conf files for exim4, dovecot, openvpn etc.  I didn't get "can just rename the original back in."
[00:01] <birarda> wondering if anyone might be able to help with an iptables problem
[00:01] <birarda> I'm getting can't initialize iptables table `nat'
[00:01] <birarda> says table does not exist
[00:01] <jrib> satwood: it's more of a version issue; if the version of the software is the same (or you know the conf file format/settings have not changed), it should be fine
[00:01] <ActionParsnip> satwood: well, if there is a conf file already there, rename it then  copy the Ubuntu one in
[00:01] <birarda> lsmod doesn't show anything related to iptables
[00:01] <brontosaurusrex> stephanb: and your server is linux as well?
[00:01] <satwood> got it, thanks guys
[00:02] <stephanb> brontosaurusrex: i think so, it's some generic NAS
[00:02] <satwood> i assume ubuntu also has paths as /etc/exim4, /etc/dovecot, /etc/openvpn etc. ?
[00:03] <brontosaurusrex> stephanb: can you ssh to that thing?
[00:03] <stephanb> brontosaurusrex:  nope :(
[00:04] <conley> I upgraded to 12.10, and now I'm getting an error about dpkg returning an error code. I've tried dpkg --configure -a but it's still broken
[00:04] <brontosaurusrex> well, then there must be a way to mount this samba share into the system somehow
[00:05] <brontosaurusrex> stephanb: like http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/mounting-a-samba-share-933322/
[00:05] <Jordan_U> conley: Please pastebin the complete error message.
[00:05] <stephanb> brontosaurusrex: i got it mounted, but audacious doesnt support adding folders from samba shares, this only works with normal files
[00:06] <brontosaurusrex> how did you mounted it? nautilus?
[00:06] <stephanb> brontosaurusrex: fstab
[00:06] <brontosaurusrex> oh
[00:06] <conley> http://pastebin.com/Uvi6Dku7 Jordan_U
[00:06] <birarda> http://pastebin.com/HfRSg82g here's a paste of the iptables problem
[00:07] <brontosaurusrex> stephanb: perhaps run yourplayer from cli and then drop that share and see if any errors pop out
[00:07] <stephanb> brontosaurusrex: would be worth a try
[00:08] <brontosaurusrex> could be some sort of a permission problem
[00:08] <stephanb> brontosaurusrex: nope
[00:09] <brontosaurusrex> stephanb: but you can see this files normaly with some file manager? copy them localy and so on?
[00:09] <stephanb> brontosaurusrex: yes, all that works fine, it just seems that audacious doesnt support adding directorys from samba shares
[00:10] <ActionParsnip> brontosaurusrex: nautilus can mount samba shares
[00:10] <brontosaurusrex> ActionParsnip: yes, but you probably cant use those urls right?
[00:10] <stephanb> i think i'll just go with MPD...
[00:11] <ActionParsnip> brontosaurusrex: have you tried with nautilus though, or is this a CLI only system?
[00:11] <brontosaurusrex> stephanb: perhaps try "deadbeef" as plazer, very similar.
[00:12] <brontosaurusrex> ActionParsnip: stephanb is asking, iam trying to help :)
[00:12] <brontosaurusrex> player*
[00:12] <ActionParsnip> brontosaurusrex: ahhhhh i see
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> stephanb: you can use /run/user/USER$/gvfs/foldernamehere
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> stephanb: the mounts get mounted there as folders
[00:14] <foxy999> Can someone tell me how to fix my update manager, i think i need to update my repository
[00:14] <stephanb> ActionParsnip: i just googled it, it is a specific problem with audacious, not with mounting the shares
[00:15] <stephanb> brontosaurusrex: is there a recent ppa for deadbeef?
[00:15] <brontosaurusrex> stephanb: iam using deb-multimedia.org
[00:15] <brontosaurusrex> but iam not on ubuntu at the moment
[00:16] <stephanb> brontosaurusrex: okay
[00:16] <Diana> hi
[00:16] <LucidGuy> Anyone recommend a good iptables generator.  Something simple I can use to create iptables.  Happy to do it myself with just a text editor, but always concerned I've made a typo or something causing possible security issues.
[00:17] <jjoson_> hi there..
[00:17] <Diana> I just want to download ubuntu from your website
[00:17] <jjoson_> diana..sorry but i'm also new for this one
[00:17] <Diana> Please let me know the procedue
[00:17] <Diana> k
[00:17] <satwood> guys, i know there is a tool where a console can be observed by two people, while one types, after i ssh, can someone please tell me what it is ?
[00:18] <jjoson_> want to ask if ubuntu is not sending copy of OS anymore like before?
[00:18] <jpds> satwood: byobu.
[00:19] <jpds> jjoson_: No, that was stopped a while ago.
[00:19] <stephanb> brontosaurusrex: deadbeef seems nice, but the gui is ugly ;)
[00:19] <foxy999> I get this error when I check for updates: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available
[00:19] <satwood> jpds: that doesnt seem like it, i just read it quickly
[00:19] <brontosaurusrex> stephanb: does it work? evev if ugly
[00:19] <brontosaurusrex> even*
[00:20] <jjoson_> oh thanks..
[00:20] <stephanb> brontosaurusrex: yeah
[00:20] <jpds> satwood: Someone runs it with 'byobu'.
[00:20] <satwood> what i am looking for is i ssh into a server. another person is also able to "join": and see what commands i type, and the screen output
[00:20] <conley> Can anyone paste me the ubuntu 12.10 /etc/apt/sources.list file?
[00:20] <jpds> satwood: The next person does: "byobu attach".
[00:20] <satwood> ok
[00:20] <jpds> satwood: Yes, that's exactly what I'm talking about.
[00:20] <satwood> so i ssh into ubuntu and then what ?
[00:20] <jjoson_> jpds : so its all download now?
[00:21] <jpds> satwood: 00:20:19 < jpds> satwood: Someone runs it with 'byobu'.
[00:21] <jpds> satwood: 00:20:31 < jpds> satwood: The next person does: "byobu attach".
[00:21] <jpds> satwood: ;-)
[00:21] <satwood> jpds: so what do i do after ssh into ubuntu ?
[00:21] <stephanb> brontosaurusrex: but i got a workaround with gvfs so that it works with audacious too
[00:21] <jpds> satwood: Type: byoby
[00:21] <brontosaurusrex> stephanb: cool
[00:21] <jpds> jjoson_: Yes.
[00:21] <satwood> ok
[00:21] <satwood> jpds: then the other guy to connect and see, what does he do ?
[00:22] <jjoson_> ok..thanks..maybe i'l download it next time..thank you
[00:22] <jpds> satwood: Are you even reading, what I'm typing.
[00:22] <jjoson_> by the way how will i log out from here
[00:22] <satwood> jpds: yes
[00:22] <jpds> satwood: 00:21:09 < jpds> satwood: 00:20:31 < jpds> satwood: The next person does: "byobu attach".
[00:22] <satwood> jpds: i saw i should i) ssh, ii) type byobu, iii) othe rperson types "byobu attach"
[00:23] <satwood> jpds: how does the next person know where/how to attach, so before iii) he also does ssh into the same ubnutu ?
[00:23] <satwood> jpds: and just types that ? is there a session number or tty number or something ? what if two others also want to do this separately on the same machine ?
[00:25] <jpds> satwood: You both need to be on the same Ubuntu system that's running byobu.
[00:25] <conley> anyone? I just need /etc/apt/sources.list
[00:26] <satwood> jpds: i got that. but lets say A and B do this. Now C and D also want to do the same. How is that possible if they do byobu attch, they may get attached to A
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> conley: for which release?
[00:27] <conley> ActionParsnip: 12.10
[00:27] <ActionParsnip> conley: gimme a sec
[00:27] <conley> ActionParsnip: Thanks man :)
[00:28] <birarda> anybody know why my iptables wouldn't have the 'nat' table?
[00:28] <birarda> http://pastebin.com/HfRSg82g
[00:28] <jpds> satwood: They can create a new 'client'.
[00:28] <ActionParsnip> conley: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1319531/   I have the partner repo enabled in there
[00:28] <conley> ActionParsnip: alright, thanks a lot
[00:29] <satwood> jpds: how does D know to connect to C, instead of A ?
[00:29] <jpds> satwood: "byobu new-session"
[00:30] <jpds> satwood: "byobu ls"
[00:30] <satwood> jpds: wha tis the command C uses to connect to D instead of to A ?
[00:30] <jpds> satwood: "byobu attach-session"
[00:30] <satwood> jpds: is it byobu attach 2 ?
[00:30] <satwood> jpds: ok, how does C connect to A vs. connect to D ?
[00:30] <jpds> satwood: Probably, man page suggests "attach-session -t N"
[00:31] <satwood> jpds: ok thanks
[00:31] <jpds> byobu++ # awesome program.
[00:31] <jpds> satwood: Look at the tmux manpage.
[00:32] <satwood> ok, thanks
[00:35] <chadams> just installed ubuntu 12.10 last night via the wubi, would like to add the host drive to the devices list in the folder manager, anyone know how to do this?
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> chadams: run:    ln -s /host ~/Windows
[00:36] <orionsbelt> does anyone know why my computer wont accept two wireless connections at once?  ive got two dongles and one wont connect
[00:37] <orionsbelt> ubuntu oneiric
[00:37] <orionsbelt> os
[00:37] <ActionParsnip> orionsbelt: you may need to manually set one up using /etc/network/interfaces file   as far as I know, network manager will only manage one connection by one adapter
[00:39] <wilee-nilee> chadams, It is actually already there, I forget where though, remember wubi is a file in windows, and set for a try out not longterm use.
[00:41] <chadams> I want to put it here: http://imgur.com/Mce69
[00:42] <kaushal> Is Airtel 4G LTE USB Modem/Stick support available in Ubuntu 11.10?
[00:43] <chadams> it's already mounted to /host
[00:43] <chadams> is it possible to mount it again to a folder that ubuntu will recognize as a device?
[00:43] <chadams> or can you only mount a drive once?
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> chadams: yes, that's why the symlink makesit easily accessible :)
[00:45] <ActionParsnip> kaushal: run:  lsusb      use the 8 character hex ID to find guides
[00:45] <kaushal> ActionParsnip: ok
[00:46] <kaushal> ActionParsnip: Bus 002 Device 004: ID 19d2:0166 ONDA Communication S.p.A.
[00:46] <chadams> oops, thought red meant private message
[00:46] <kaushal> ActionParsnip: guides?
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> kaushal: ok, use that to find guides online
[00:46] <chadams> apparent it just means my name was mentioned
[00:46] <kaushal> ActionParsnip: any url?
[00:47] <ActionParsnip> kaushal: https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=19d2%3A0166%20ONDA   too hard?
[00:47] <simplew> ActionParsnip: can you help creating a local repository?
[00:48] <ActionParsnip> simplew: http://www.packtpub.com/article/create-local-ubuntu-repository-using-apt-mirror-apt-cacher
[00:50] <birarda> hey, sorry, hate to keep bothering
[00:51] <birarda> just wondering if somebody know what might be up with this iptables problem
[00:51] <birarda> says 'nat' table doesn't exist
[00:51] <birarda> http://pastebin.com/HfRSg82g
[00:51] <simplew> ActionParsnip: hummm
[00:51] <simplew> ActionParsnip: thanks
[00:52] <vfw> birarda: iptables -L
[00:53] <simplew> ActionParsnip: did you ever created a local mirror?
[00:54] <birarda> vfw: that runs fine and shows me nothing
[00:54] <birarda> well no rules I mean
[00:54] <simplew> ActionParsnip: the thing is, i have downloaded many packages, and i want them to be available locally if for example i need to do a clean isntall, so instead download them again, i could create a local repo to save bandwith
[00:54] <vfw> birarda: Then there are none.
[00:55] <vfw> birarda: Do you have a firewall script?
[00:55] <birarda> no, it's ettercap trying to add rules that fires the error
[00:55] <vfw> birarda: Or have you created any rules?
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> simplew: you can use aptoncd for that
[00:55] <vfw> birarda: What error?  (Show us)
[00:55] <birarda> vfw: http://pastebin.com/HfRSg82g
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> !info aptoncd
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> yay
[00:56] <birarda> the error message is the same as the one shown there
[00:56] <birarda> happens during the ettercap run (when it starts and when I stop it)
[00:59] <kaushal> ActionParsnip: hi again
[00:59] <nydel> hello all
[00:59] <kaushal> MessageContent="55534243123456782400000080000685000000240000000000000000000000"  of usb-modeswitch-data for the MF820 product.
[01:00] <kaushal> where can i get usb-modeswitch-data?
[01:01] <ActionParsnip> !info usb-modeswitch-data
[01:03] <birarda> where should I look for the iptables_nat module?
[01:04] <vfw> birarda: apt-cache
[01:05] <vfw> birarda: sudo apt-get install iptables
[01:05] <birarda> it's installed
[01:08] <vfw> Should just be there.
[01:08] <vfw> birarda: How did you install iptables?
[01:08] <vfw> birarda: What version?
[01:08] <birarda> didn't. said it was already installed when I ran sudo apt-get install iptables
[01:09] <birarda> iptables v1.4.12
[01:09] <vfw> hummmm... I dono
[01:09] <birarda> also tried reinstalling
[01:10] <vfw> birarda: That usually doesn't do anything.
[01:10] <birarda> figured as much
[01:10] <birarda> tried modprobe iptable_nat
[01:10] <birarda> not found
[01:12] <wilee-nilee> birarda, This thread at the ubuntu forums is generally recommended for info in this area if needed. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=510812
[01:13] <qwd> Jordan_U: Hey, sorry I did some other stuff while waiting for mplayer to install and completely forgot about it. Here's the output when trying to play the video file. http://pastebin.com/M6tF1qg3
[01:13] <wilee-nilee> birarda, And this is a link within that thread. http://bodhizazen.net/Tutorials/iptables/
[01:15] <vfw> birarda: What exactly are you trying to do?
[01:16] <birarda> figure out why the table doesn't exist and create it so that ettercap works
[01:17] <birarda> or not create it I mean but figure out why it's not there
[01:19] <vfw> birarda: lsmod|grep ipt
[01:19] <birarda> nada
[01:19] <wilee-nilee> birarda,  ettercap would not be covered on this channel it is a sniffer.
[01:19] <birarda> issue isn't related to etter cap really
[01:19] <birarda> iptables -t nat -L also throws the error
[01:23] <vfw> birarda: grep ipt /etc/modprobe.d/*
[01:23] <birarda> nada
[01:24] <kaushal> what does usb-modeswitch-data package do?
[01:24] <vfw> birarda: And  lsmod |grep ipt  also returns nothing?
[01:24] <kaushal> basically i need to understand about usb-modeswitch-data and usb-modeswitch
[01:25] <birarda> yep, same
[01:25] <vfw> birarda: lsb_release -a
[01:25] <KBentley57> it looks like it is a small data partition that is used to hold drivers
[01:25] <birarda> No LSB modules are available.
[01:25] <birarda> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[01:25] <birarda> Description:	Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS
[01:25] <birarda> Release:	12.04
[01:25] <birarda> Codename:	precise
[01:25] <FloodBot1> birarda: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:25] <KBentley57> http://packages.debian.org/sid/usb-modeswitch-data
[01:26] <vfw> birarda: Somehting wrong with your system.  Try rebooting, and / or  sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:27] <vfw> birarda: That's all I have for you.
[01:27] <angela-> hi i have instaled wuby 10.12 in windows what is the afantichs of the disafvantichs of it ?
[01:28] <birarda> rebooted already and I'm fully up to date
[01:28] <birarda> darn
[01:28] <john_doe_jr> how do I add the following repo: http://origin-download.mono-project.com/archive/2.6.7/download/openSUSE_11.3/
[01:28] <vfw> birarda: This is a normal install, (not wubi), right?
[01:29] <birarda> it's a chromebox
[01:29] <KBentley57> angela-, when you use wubi, you aren't getting the benefits of the native ext4 file system for one
[01:29] <birarda> so technically it's chrubuntu
[01:29] <vfw> birarda: What is a chromebox?
[01:29] <birarda> http://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/devices/chromebox.html
[01:30] <RiXtEr> john_doe_jr, since its a rpm based repo I am not sure you can...
[01:30] <angela-> gthat`s right KBentley57  and i am v=capeble to uninstal it in windows
[01:30] <KBentley57> angela-, so you have installed it, and are trying to remove it?
[01:30] <RiXtEr> birarda, I am running 12.10 64bit on my chromebook :) runs pretty smooth also... I get about 8-9 hours battery life on it :)
[01:31] <meomic> hi, i just want to ask if anyone got working some android device with adb under ubuntu 12.10?  my was working nicely with 12.04 but then ive upgraded and it stopped  syslog shows something but not sure exactly what (how to fix)
[01:31] <angela-> no KBentley57
[01:31] <vfw>  birarda  I don't know about chromebox, but must be some sort ofa stripped down version of Ubuntu.  Right?
[01:32] <angela-> i try to inastall my network printer that dont will work
[01:32] <vfw> birarda: Chromebook?
[01:32] <RiXtEr> meomic, I'd bet there are some udev rules you need to fix, but I haven't had time to play with it myself yet, surely someone has fixed it up and posted it somewhere (google it)
[01:33] <KBentley57> angela-, which is your native language?  I'm afraid I'm having a hard time comprehending your problem.
[01:33] <RiXtEr> vfw, no its full blown, and chromebox is hooked to a TV
[01:33] <RiXtEr> vfw, much like a media device.
[01:33] <angela-> duchs KBentley57
[01:33] <meomic> RiXtEr: udev rules ive handled - it was working in 12.04 - udev rules are same - i can see the device but it is kicked out after few secs by system and again auto reconnected (loop)
[01:34] <angela-> but thar is bobody arout nou this time off night
[01:34] <vfw> RiXtEr: Tnx info.  First I heard of chromebox.  Learning.....
[01:34] <jgautier>  I have mythbuntu up and running watching live TV with sound great through my GT 430 sound card.  However when I try to get zsnes or snes9x to play the video works fine but there no audio...any ideas?
[01:34] <KBentley57> angela-, I understand.  Perhaps it would be best to type in duchs and let me use google translator
[01:34] <RiXtEr> vfw, it was released back in July if I remember right, so I am betting something should be running stable on it.
[01:35] <angela-> ok
[01:35] <KBentley57> angela-, no offense :)
[01:37] <birarda> like a chrome book, but a desktop box
[01:37] <birarda> vfw: looks like a mac mini
[01:38] <ULO-Plio> Is there a way to install Ubuntu alongside Windows 7 (on the same drive), but without a shared file system?
[01:38] <RiXtEr> ULO-Plio, yes
[01:38] <ULO-Plio> RiXtEr, how? I don't want to reformat my drive or anything :S
[01:38] <wilee-nilee> ULO-Plio, What is your definition of shared file system?
[01:38] <KBentley57> ULO-Plio, it's very easy to do.  download the iso, burn it to a cd, pop it in and go
[01:39] <KBentley57> ULO-Plio, it will ask you to resize your windows partition to make room for the ubuntu installation
[01:39] <ULO-Plio> wilee-nilee, I can actually access my C drive through Ubuntu (which I don't want to be able to do)
[01:39] <RiXtEr> ULO-Plio, you just need to re-partition your drive so ubuntu has some native linux filesystem to run on
[01:39] <RiXtEr> ULO-Plio, which ubuntu will take care of for you during install.
[01:39] <angela-> no prob KBentley57
[01:40] <wilee-nilee> ULO-Plio, I thought there was more to this so you want the windows partition hidden?
[01:40] <KBentley57> ULO-Plio, then remove the ntfs module, or unmount the windows partition
[01:40] <RiXtEr> ULO-Plio, but if  you have sensative data on your drive please be sure to back it up
[01:41] <ULO-Plio> KBentley57, yeah I can unmount it, but is there a way so that I have absolutely no access to it through Ubuntu? I want to keep the two completely separate.
[01:41] <KBentley57> ULO-Plio, do you only not want access to the windows partition, or do you want to keep it from mounting ANY ntfs filesystem?
[01:42] <ULO-Plio> KBentley57, just the Windows partition
[01:43] <KBentley57> have you ever opened fstab?
[01:43] <vfw> birarda: Interesting.... Learning....
[01:43] <KBentley57> ULO-Plio, do you care to post some output into pastebin if I give you instructions?
[01:44] <ULO-Plio> I haven't installed Ubuntu yet. I've had this "problem" with 12.04, so I simply deleted the whole Ubuntu partition and went straight with Windows 7
[01:44] <KBentley57> Oh, that's too bad, it simply requires editing a single text file.
[01:44] <ULO-Plio> Ahhh :(
[01:45] <KBentley57> ULO-Plio, I've been there, don't sweat it :).
[01:45] <wilee-nilee> ULO-Plio, You can have a password needed to open any partition that may be your best bet. http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=9207234&postcount=4
[01:45] <KBentley57> It would be simpler for him to just comment out the line in fstab if it is there after the installation
[01:46] <ULO-Plio> Thanks everyone :) I may just buy a cheap HDD and install Ubuntu on there
[01:46] <ULO-Plio> maybe that way, I won't have this problem
[01:47] <KBentley57> ULO-Plio, it doesn't require that much work to keep them separate.  I wouldn't buy another hard drive for only that purpose, unless you just want to of course
[01:47] <ULO-Plio> I guess it's safer to just do that
[01:47] <ULO-Plio> than always deleting the Ubuntu partition and reinstalling it (or other distros) on the same drive
[01:48] <wilee-nilee> ULO-Plio, A second HD will leave you with the same setup unless you unplug the one with windows.
[01:48] <^Mike> Why is /var/run a symlink to /run? I don't recall there being a run directory in the filesystem root O_o
[01:48] <ULO-Plio> wilee-nilee, for real?  Gaaahhh
[01:48] <KBentley57> wilee-nilee, is correct.  There is not practical difference between having two hard drives with a single partiton each, vs two partitions on a single drive
[01:49] <KBentley57> it's all about the partitions as opposed to the number of drives in the system
[01:49] <wilee-nilee> ULO-Plio, As it is windows is just a file in the left panel in nautilus, unless we are talking about a wubi install. Was you last 12.04 installed from windows?
[01:49] <KBentley57> If it helps, I would stop thinking of the drives as being anything more than a container that partitions reside in
[01:50] <ULO-Plio> wilee-nilee, nah, I did it through a live USB.
[01:51] <angela-> btw KBentley57  wubi is for my a tryout
[01:51] <ULO-Plio> KBentley57, yeah I know. I just want Ubuntu to not recognize the WIndows partition, because the drive is always mounted when I start Ubuntu. Ideally, I want Ubuntu to work with only its own partition
[01:52] <wilee-nilee> ULO-Plio, Windows would not be mounted unless fstab had a mount for it.
[01:52] <KBentley57> that is what I was saying, all he needs to do is remove the fstab entry
[01:52] <ULO-Plio> Hmm
[01:52] <KBentley57> angela-, I understand.  Which part of the wubi is giving you troubles
[01:53] <ULO-Plio> Okay, I'll give it a whirl. What should I do with fstab?
[01:53] <ULO-Plio> :)
[01:53] <KBentley57> ULO-Plio, fstab is a file that tells ubuntu to mount certain partitions on bootup
[01:53] <KBentley57> ULO-Plio, if there is an entry for the partition that windows resides on, ubuntu will mount it automatically
[01:53] <angela-> is no prob KBentley57  i am able to print scan  in windows so its nop prob
[01:54] <ULO-Plio> KBently57, ohhhhh.
[01:54] <KBentley57> ULO-Plio, you would have to remove, or comment out this entry.  t's not hard
[01:54] <KBentley57> ULO-Plio, but if you remove the wrong thing it can have disasterous results :)
[01:54] <ULO-Plio> O__O
[01:54] <ULO-Plio> :S
[01:55] <KBentley57> ULO-Plio, why don't you reinstall it and come back, and we'll help you through it.  worst that can happen is you botch a clean ubuntu install with nothing in it.  There is no danger to the windows partition
[01:56] <ULO-Plio> KBentley57, Alrighty, thanks for the help :)
[01:56] <Toph2> is there a 'Transmission BitTorrent Client' channel around, or can i pose a question here
[01:56] <Toph2> ?
[01:57] <KBentley57> Toph2, go for it
[01:57] <Toph2> ok
[01:58] <Toph2> I want to store my downloads on a differnt drive/partition. I can't find a setting in Transmission to do this
[01:58] <KBentley57> Toph2, would you like a suggestion?
[01:59] <Toph2> KBentley57,,, indeed
[01:59] <angela-> KBentley57,  if i disydet to install ubuntu 10.12 next to windows one dvd ore cd than i`m even to eble to do finks that dont work in ubuntu to do it in windows'
[02:00] <somsip> Toph2: Edit, Preferences, Downloading tab
[02:01] <KBentley57> Toph2, use a different torrent client.  Transmission is limited in what it can, and cannot do.  qbittorent and deluge are much more functional.  However, here is a post that looks like it addresses your question:
[02:01] <lupo> I have a postgresql installed but don't know which, so I can't remove it with apt-get, how can I find all the packages related to postgre installed in my system?
[02:01] <KBentley57> Toph2, https://forum.transmissionbt.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=9073
[02:01] <Toph2> somsip,,, I find none of that on my client
[02:01] <Toph2> KBentley57,,, thanks
[02:01] <somsip> Toph2: You're using the GUI or the server? You have a toolbar?
[02:01] <overdub> have a broken package with apt-get: 1 not fully installed or removed. Errors were encountered while processing: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[02:02] <Toph2> somsip,,, just the GUI
[02:02] <Toph2> no toolbar
[02:02] <overdub> the package is gpsmanshp
[02:02] <KBentley57> overclucker, have you tried sudo apt-get install -f?
[02:02] <overdub> can't seem to fix it, install it properly, or uninstall it
[02:02] <overdub> anyone know how to fix this?
[02:03] <somsip> Toph2: this is transmission-gtk?
[02:03] <overdub> KBentley57, i was reluctant to use -f, maybe it might work
[02:04] <overdub> don't want to bork this install and the apt-get man page says this is to be used with extreme caution
[02:04] <KBentley57> overdub, the -f stands for "fix broken packages"
[02:04] <overdub> thought there might be a safer way to fix it
[02:04] <overdub> ah, well then, probably what I want, i'll go try it
[02:05] <KBentley57> overdub, ok, report back when you're finished
[02:05] <overdub> will do
[02:06] <overdub> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) -- didn't work
[02:06] <Toph2> somsip,,, i'm not sure,, it has no options other than speeds
[02:07] <KBentley57> overdub, try to purge the package, then run -f, then install again
[02:07] <overdub> where to "purge" the package?
[02:07] <KBentley57> overdub, sudo apt-get purge gpsmanshp
[02:07] <angela-> one questhen left vpn is that for foon configurarion?
[02:07] <KBentley57> it basically removes the package and any config files that still exist
[02:08] <yeehi> Hello! I have downloaded the beautiful ubuntu fonts here: http://font.ubuntu.com/ How do I now install them? I think there is more to it than just copying them into a folder. (Also, which folder?!)
[02:08] <overdub> KBentley57, subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 127
[02:08] <overdub> didn't work
[02:08] <somsip> yeehi: copy to /usr/share/fonts
[02:08] <KBentley57> hmm, you could always install synaptic, it's a package manager that is good about fixing things like this.
[02:09] <yeehi> they downloaded as a zip file - do i have to unpack, somsip?
[02:09] <somsip> Toph2: How do you access those. Do you go through a Preferences menu
[02:09] <overdub> i have it install and tried to use that to fix the issue
[02:09] <somsip> yeehi: yes
[02:09] <KBentley57> overdub, already?
[02:09] <overdub> maybe I didn't poke around enough in synaptic
[02:09] <overdub> I tried that a while ago
[02:10] <kaushal> hi
[02:10] <KBentley57> there is a fix broken packages option in synaptic, i just used it myself today
[02:10] <overdub> I'll try that again and report back
[02:10] <KBentley57> overdub, it's under custom filters on the bottom left
[02:10] <mats> what is the cat function?
[02:11] <Toph2> somsip,,, one options setting in the lower right corner and all it gives is transfer speed settings
[02:11] <KBentley57> cat is usually used to display text on the screen mats
[02:11] <yeehi> there are lots of folders inside /usr/share/fonts somsip - cmap, opentype, truetype, type1 x11 - which one?
[02:11] <yeehi> somsip?
[02:11] <overdub> KBentley57, okay, thanks back in a bit to report if it worked or not
[02:11] <KBentley57> overdub, then click on broken just under all
[02:11] <KBentley57> ok,
[02:11] <somsip> yeehi: the one that matches the font you download - usually ttf (true type) or otf (open type)
[02:12] <ruben231> hi guys any have successfully install twinkle softphone with ubuntu 12.10----> any idea guys..?
[02:12] <ruben231> or what you can suggest
[02:12] <somsip> Toph2: is there any menu at all?
[02:13] <Toph2> somsip,,, there is a properties option on the one menu bar it has on top but that is just for a selected torrent
[02:13] <KBentley57> ruben231, are you trying to install it, or just asking our opinion of it?
[02:13] <mats> when i do "sudo cat misc/rc.local > /etc/rc.local" i get "-bash: /etc/rc.local: permission denied??? please help
[02:13] <somsip> mats: use tee
[02:13] <ruben231> KBentley57: im trying to install twinkle with this- apt-get install twinkle but it wont -unable to locate twinkle
[02:14] <mats> use tee? how ?
[02:14] <Toph2> somsip,,, just a to menu bar with 'open, run arrow, pause, -, and properties for the selected torrent'
[02:14] <KBentley57> ruben231, that is because it's probably not in the repositorys, I just checked
[02:14] <overdub> KBentley57, having trouble getting synaptic to start with root privileges
[02:14] <KBentley57> overdub, did you run "sudo synaptic" from the terminal?
[02:14] <ruben231> KBentley57:how do i add it up, can you help
[02:15] <overdub> yup, it says Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0
[02:15] <KBentley57> ruben231, you will have to manually install it, here is their download page:  http://www.twinklephone.com/
[02:15] <overdub> i'm using KDE
[02:15] <KBentley57> overdub, Oh, well, there is your problem... ;)
[02:15] <mats> when i do "sudo cat misc/rc.local > /etc/rc.local" i get "-bash: /etc/rc.local: permission denied"??? please help
[02:15] <somsip> mats: like this http://stackoverflow.com/questions/82256/how-do-i-use-sudo-to-redirect-output-to-a-location-i-dont-have-permission-to-wr (under 'use sudo tee')
[02:15] <wilee-nilee> !twinkle
[02:15] <ruben231>  KBentley57: how to manually install..? just download then install..? tahts all..?
[02:15] <overdub> so i did alt-F2 and it only starts in non root privilege
[02:15] <mats> somsip: TY
[02:15] <overdub> KB - LOL
[02:16] <wilee-nilee> overdub, You in a admin account?
[02:16] <KBentley57> overdub, so running it from the terminal, with sudo, doesn't give you sudo priv?
[02:16] <ActionParsnip> can anyone please explain web apps please. I have some installed but they appear to do nothing
[02:16] <somsip> Toph2: sorry, but you seem to be using a front end that is very different from mone. I'm not sure why
[02:16] <ruben231> wilee-nilee: you have any idea..?
[02:16] <overdub> wilee-nilee, not a good plan to run a whole desktop with root privileges
[02:17] <wilee-nilee> ruben231, Not really.
[02:17] <overdub> KBentley57, it can't open the display
[02:17] <overdub> i thought I could get root after opening synaptic
[02:17] <wilee-nilee> overdub, Admin in ubuntu is sudo access you misunderstand
[02:17] <ruben231>  KBentley57: how to install manually..?
[02:17] <KBentley57> ruben, are you at the download page?
[02:17] <bazhang> sflphone-gnome  <---- use this instead ruben231 twinkle is not there in Quantal 12.10
[02:17] <dormito> Im running Ubuntu 12.10. I set a custom keyboard shurtcut Super+E to launch nautilus (because Im so used to that short cut in windows) when I set the shortcut it worked, but after rebooting it no longer launches nautils. I went back into the shortcut settings and tickered around, and it started working again evetually (I just deleted the entery and recreated the exact same... and maybe re assined it to the same keystroke, so no net change) and
[02:17] <dormito> it eventually started working. however I have rebooted again, and it does not launch nautilus again a perminent solution would be nice.
[02:18] <ruben231> bazhang: is install default already..? is it SIP..?
[02:18] <KBentley57> overdub, do you havg muon ? as the pacage manager?
[02:18] <overdub> even doing alt-F2 and then typing sudo synaptic does not work
[02:18] <bazhang> ruben231, it's a softphone. install it
[02:18] <overdub> KBentley57, never heard of that, is it a GUI or command line?
[02:19] <bazhang> KBentley57, muon is for Kubuntu
[02:19] <wilee-nilee> overdub, Are you in the account that was made when you installed?
[02:19] <ActionParsnip> well, you can use kde apps in gnome if you want :)
[02:19] <KBentley57> is KDE + Ubuntu = kubuntu?
[02:19] <ruben231> bazhang: is it on the repo i just apt-get istall it..?
[02:19] <KBentley57> ruben, yes
[02:19] <bazhang> ruben231, yes
[02:20] <overdub> wilee-nilee, yes, and last time I tried to open synaptic it asked for the password and opened with root
[02:20] <Toph2> somsip,,, strange   It is the only one that comes up in Ubuntu Softwear Centre
[02:20] <KBentley57> overdub, I'm perplexed.  sudo should be able to do anything..lol
[02:20] <bazhang> wilee-nilee, gksudo synaptic you mean
[02:20] <overdub> KBentley57, except apparently open a GUI app
[02:20] <somsip> Toph2: maybe, but I don't use that
[02:20] <overdub> KBentley57, i'm installing muon
[02:21] <mats> somsip: sudo tee didnt work
[02:21] <wilee-nilee> bazhang, hehe I didn't give any command. ;)
[02:21] <mats> when i do "sudo cat misc/rc.local > /etc/rc.local" i get "-bash: /etc/rc.local: permission denied"??? please help
[02:21] <KBentley57> overdub, can you post the output if "id"
[02:21] <overclucker> overdub: are you trying to run synaptic from a tty?
[02:21] <overdub> overclucker, yeah
[02:21] <KBentley57> ahh, nice call
[02:22] <KBentley57> you can't run synaptic - the gui - unless X is running.
[02:22] <overclucker> overdub: you could try with xinit, like xinit /usr/sbin/synaptic -- :0
[02:22] <somsip> mats: so could you  sudo cp misc/rc.local /etc/rc.local?
[02:22] <overdub> X is running, but I was trying to open synaptic from Konsole
[02:22] <overdub> some misunderstanding here
[02:22] <overdub> i'm trying
[02:22] <overclucker> overdub: but if you're already running an x session try :1
[02:23] <KBentley57> overdub, sorry, I think I misunderstood.  I thought you were saying that you were running it from a session where X wasn't started
[02:23] <overclucker> overdub: ah, hmm.
[02:24] <mats> somsip: i love you thanks!
[02:24] <KBentley57> overdub, type "id" into console, and post the output here
[02:24] <somsip> mats: too effusive, but your welcome
[02:25] <overdub> KBentley57, uid=0(root) gid=0(root) groups=0(root)
[02:25] <overdub> i'm root in Konsole
[02:25] <overdub> so I shouldn't need the sudo prefix
[02:25] <KBentley57> have you tried not being root, but changing to your regular user, and trying to use sudo instead?
[02:26] <biella> i've just install quantal and sound is not working when youtube videos play in firefox, and chromium says that flash is disabled because it is out of date... does anyone know how I can fix that?
[02:26] <overdub> KBentley57, not yet, i'm on that now . . .
[02:26] <KBentley57> biella, have you tried updating your system yet?
[02:26] <biella> KBentley57, yeah, it says I have no updates right now
[02:26] <overclucker> overdub: yeah, try that. drop to a regular user and run gksu synaptic
[02:26] <overdub> It worked! I'm in synaptic with root privilege
[02:27] <KBentley57> :)
[02:27] <overdub> strange that, but I'm happy it works
[02:27] <KBentley57> overdub, now we can try to solve the real problem..lo
[02:27] <overdub> yeah, let me do the fix broken package thing now, back in a sec
[02:27] <KBentley57> biella, which version of chrome is listed as installed?
[02:28] <biella> KBentley57: chromium-browser 22.0.1229.94~r161065-0ubuntu1
[02:29] <mats> how do u restart from command line
[02:29] <dax> mats: sudo reboot
[02:29] <somsip> mats: sudo reboot
[02:30] <tacomaster> I just finished a book on python and was going to start trying to make gui app's but it seems that gui gtk3 is not supported for pygtk and a few other what is a good gui language for python3 that isnt qt?
[02:30] <dax> tacomaster: http://python-gtk-3-tutorial.readthedocs.org/en/latest/
[02:31] <overdub> KBentley57, fix broken packages did nothing, so I tried to "mark for complete removal" and still get error
[02:31] <somsip> tacomaster: http://wiki.python.org/moin/GuiProgramming has lots of links that might help
[02:31] <tacomaster> dax, somsip, ty so much!!!
[02:31] <KBentley57> overdub, so you marked it for complete removal and it did nothing?
[02:32] <overdub> it returned error: E: gpsmanshp: subprocess installed pre-removal script returned error exit status 1
[02:32] <KBentley57> well,, there is another way
[02:32] <overdub> do tell
[02:33] <KBentley57> overdub, it basically involves a seek and destroy approach, manually removing each related file.
[02:33] <KBentley57> overdub, first update your database with sudo updatedb
[02:33] <dax> overdub: install the package tcl8.4 and try again. There's a bug in the package gpsmanshp
[02:33] <dax> overdub: doing this before KBentley57's idea is probably best, since it's less destructive
[02:34] <biella> KBentley57, i moved from an amd64 machine to i386, so I needed to purge my .mozilla/plugins directory and now it works
[02:34] <KBentley57> dax, i just seen this
[02:34] <overdub> dax, thanks for the safer suggestion. i suspected a bug in the package
[02:34] <KBentley57> biella, nice find!  I'm glad you found it
[02:35] <dax> overdub: you're welcome. let me know whether it works; if not, we can continue with KBentley57's idea :)
[02:35] <biella> KBentley57: thought you might want to know for future people!
[02:35] <KBentley57> biella, I do, and I will keep it in mind
[02:36] <k4m3h4t3> somebody help
[02:37] <k4m3h4t3> i have problem like this http://pastebin.com/1D4PmE0E
[02:38] <bazhang> k4m3h4t3, whats the problem
[02:38] <KBentley57> k4m3h4t3, did you try to add a repository?
[02:38] <dax> !gpgerr | k4m3h4t3
[02:39] <k4m3h4t3> ubottu : where i get the key
[02:39] <dax> k4m3h4t3: it's D53AE39309257C1B
[02:40] <k4m3h4t3> dax : where i get the key
[02:40] <dax> k4m3h4t3: so you'd do sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com D53AE39309257C1B
[02:40] <dax> which will download that key and give it to apt-get, so future package list updates will work
[02:40] <dax> s/apt-get/APT/
[02:40] <overdub> dax KBentley57 : it's fixed! the installing tcl8.4 has fixed the issue
[02:41] <k4m3h4t3> dax : mean, in terminal i must type like this  >>> sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com D53AE39309257C1B
[02:41] <dax> overdub: excellent :)
[02:41] <dax> k4m3h4t3: yes
[02:41] <k4m3h4t3> i will try
[02:41] <KBentley57> overdub, dax, nice work!
[02:41] <overdub> thanks guys, I"m a happy camper :)
[02:41] <KBentley57> I would have gotten all of it, along with a little bit of /, and possibly /usr ;)
[02:41] <chadams> first time rebooting ubuntu, right after I installed ATI drivers -- I get a pink screen, doesn't boot past that
[02:42] <biella> libreoffice auto spell checking isn't working, do i need a special package?
[02:42] <k4m3h4t3> dax : i was type. and then what must i do? sudo apt-get update?
[02:42] <dax> k4m3h4t3: sudo apt-get update
[02:42] <KBentley57> chadams, did you install them from ubuntu, or from the support.amd.com website
[02:42] <dax> k4m3h4t3: it should run without giving you the error this time
[02:42] <KBentley57> biella, I believe you do.
[02:42] <chadams> KBentley57: from the ubuntu software center
[02:42] <dax> biella: for English, or another language?
[02:42] <k4m3h4t3> i will try
[02:43] <biella> dax: english
[02:43] <chadams> 12.10
[02:43] <KBentley57> biella, is this similar to what you are talking about?
[02:43] <KBentley57> biella, http://askubuntu.com/questions/203727/libreoffice-spell-checker-doesnt-work
[02:43] <chadams> My card is a Radeon HD 6670
[02:43] <KBentley57> chadams, it gets to the purple screen, and does nothing else, or is it really "pink"?
[02:44] <TheJelly> Hello
[02:44] <chadams> purple, sorry
[02:44] <vfw> chadams: Ctrl-Alt-F6 ; mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf-bak
[02:44] <KBentley57> he probably cant get there yet
[02:44] <R3d-S0u|> problem with xorg uh?
[02:44] <R3d-S0u|> always the same..
[02:44] <R3d-S0u|> :)
[02:44] <KBentley57> chadams, can you press shift while the pc is booting, and get the grub boot loader, and use the recovery mode?
[02:45] <TheJelly> How do I convert ima/img files to iso, or at least use them in virtual box (installing windows 95)?
[02:45] <k4m3h4t3> dax : thanks. problem resolve
[02:45] <chadams> I'll try
[02:45] <dax> k4m3h4t3: you're welcome :)
[02:45] <chadams> lucky I've got a laptop too
[02:45] <KBentley57> chadams, after that, we'll boot normally and get to a tty login
[02:45] <chadams> no problems with ubuntu on this, besides been a little slow
[02:45] <biella> KBentley57: that was it! I had chosen English (Canada) but there is no dictionary for that, it seems
[02:46] <k4m3h4t3> dax : but next time it's gone be ok?
[02:46] <dax> TheJelly: you can convert them to a .vdi (Virtualbox Disk Image) with VBoxManage convertdd file.img file.vdi, per http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/convert-usb-boot-image-img-to-virtual.html
[02:46] <chadams> ok, so advanced options for ubuntu?
[02:46] <KBentley57> biella, cool!  which one worked?
[02:46] <KBentley57> chadams, yes
[02:46] <chadams> recovery mode?
[02:46] <KBentley57> chadams, boot normally
[02:47] <KBentley57> chadams, all it does is prevent the driver from loading this way, you will log into a black terminal like screen
[02:47] <chadams> seeing text on the screen now
[02:47] <KBentley57> chadams, that is normal
[02:47] <chadams> all because I redeemed braid for ubuntu on my humble bundle
[02:47] <chadams> graphics were slow and somehow clipped, so I tried installing ATI drivers
[02:47] <KBentley57> chadams, how long did you wait for the purple screen to go away?
[02:48] <chadams> 5-10 minutes
[02:48] <dax> k4m3h4t3: Should be, yes. The error was because that key was missing, and it's now there, so everything should be fine from now on.
[02:48] <KBentley57> chadams, oh, ok.  Are you at the login prompt yet?
[02:48] <chadams> it's still on 'Loading initial ramdisk ...', is this normal?
[02:49] <KBentley57> chadams, yeah, just give it a sec.
[02:49] <sabonis> hi all
[02:49] <KBentley57> chadams, if it takes more than a minute we'll try something else
[02:49] <mats> how can i find out system information via terminal?
[02:50] <dax> mats: any particular information, or just general info?
[02:50] <KBentley57> mats: run sudo lshw for hardware info
[02:50] <mats> cpu uasage
[02:50] <somsip> mats: top
[02:50] <alien2050> on a system with  multi-monitor, is there a way to open a video tutorial in youtube, in fullscreen, on the left, and work on a document on the right ? Whenever I click, the window unmaximizes..... never found a way to do it.... ne1?
[02:50] <dax> mats: top will show that. There's an alternative program named "htop" that's similar and may be easier to use.
[02:50] <chadams> still on the ramdisk part
[02:50] <somsip> dax mats: tis truth you speak
[02:51] <KBentley57> chadams, lets try something else, that clearly isn't doing anything.  reboot and go back to grub, and advanced options
[02:51] <vfw> KBentley57: He can probably just boot normally and switch to tty6
[02:52] <KBentley57> vfw, if fglrx hangs it wont let you into a tty, or at least it hasn't ever for me
[02:52] <chadams> control alt delete didn't work to reboot this time
[02:52] <KBentley57> hard reboot if necessary
[02:52] <chadams> had to press the power button and wait
[02:52] <mats> thanks guys
[02:52] <vfw> KBentley57: Ok.
[02:53] <chadams> recovery mode is working
[02:53] <alien2050> cool i found it nevermind
[02:53] <chadams> now I'm at the Recovery Menu
[02:53] <chadams> failsafeX?
[02:54] <KBentley57> chadams, not yet
[02:54] <KBentley57> chadams, well, yes, we can do that first.  go ahead and try it
[02:55] <chadams> it's doing fsck
[02:55] <KBentley57> chadams, ok, it'll be over in a moment
[02:56] <delac> upgrading to 12.10 (from 12.04). Got "Could not install 'grub-pc'". Should I do something about it before continuing?
[02:56] <chadams> I hear that using the windows installer like I did, makes the ubuntu vfs vonerable to improper restarts, is this the case?
[02:57] <KBentley57> chadams, I'm not really certain.  I've never used the windows installer.
[02:57] <wilee-nilee> chadams, Basically it is subject to problems with a hard shutdown, it is just a file in windows.
[02:57] <KBentley57> delac, you can try to reconfigure grub
[02:58] <chadams> wilee-nilee, I see
[02:58] <delac> KBentley57: in the middle of installation?
[02:58] <KBentley57> delac, oh, it's still upgrading?
[02:58] <delac> KBentley57: yes
[02:59] <chadams> it's still stuck at /dev/loop0: clean
[02:59] <wilee-nilee> chadams, Here is what the designer of wubi says if its of any help.  http://howsoftwareisbuilt.com/2009/03/12/interview-with-agostino-russo-wubi-ubuntu/
[02:59] <delac> KBentley57: or rather, there is the error dialog open
[02:59] <mianos> does anyone know how to stop chromium preloading under precise?
[02:59] <KBentley57> delac, so it is stuck on that part?
[02:59] <wilee-nilee> mianos, The browser?
[03:00] <mianos> if it is preloaded a new instance connects to the eixsting instance and silently ignors all command line arguments
[03:00] <mianos> yes
[03:00] <delac> KBentley57: not stuck. I just didnt continue. every forum post I find tells me that I'm going to have unbootable system...
[03:00] <mianos> it's obviously not in auto starts
[03:00] <KBentley57> delac, you can always let it go, then manually install grub-pc if you must
[03:00] <wilee-nilee> mianos, Did you look in startup applications?
[03:00] <KBentley57> delac, when it gets to the end
[03:00] <chadams> KBentley57, this appears to be frozen
[03:01] <delac> KBentley57: unfortunately according to those post reinstalling grub wont work...
[03:01] <mianos> wilee-nilee yep not there, it's started by the system and backgrounded as of a few weeks ago
[03:01] <mianos> rob       1421     1  1 13:54 ?        00:00:05   /usr/lib/chromium-browser/chromium-browser
[03:01] <mianos> rob       1437  1421  0 13:54 ?        00:00:00     /usr/lib/chromium-browser/chromium-browser
[03:01] <mianos> rob       1729  1421  0 13:55 ?        00:00:00     /usr/lib/chromium-browser/chromium-browser --type=gpu-process --channel=1421.2.811925285
[03:01] <FloodBot1> mianos: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:01] <KBentley57> chadams, so it will not let you into the grub menu?
[03:01] <mianos> sorry mr bot :)
[03:01] <vfw> delac: If it's still doing file system check, be patient.
[03:01] <Mark__> Trying to get wifi working on 12.10 on my mbp retina anyone have any idea what driver I need?
[03:01] <mianos> there are a few recent questions posted
[03:01] <mianos> none answered
[03:01] <KBentley57> delac, have you updated everything before trying the dist-upgrade?
[03:02] <wilee-nilee> mianos, Not sure really,  but chromium is not getting updates as of now I believe.
[03:02] <KBentley57> Mark__, what is the output of lspci?
[03:02] <R3d-S0u|> ullallà
[03:02] <delac> KBentley57: yeah, I did
[03:02] <chadams> last thing it shows is "/dev/loop0: clean, x/y files. z/w blocks
[03:02] <vfw> mianos: What is YOUR question?
[03:03] <KBentley57> delac, can you try to pre-install the grub-pc package, then run the upgrade?
[03:03] <chadams> after going to failsafeX from the recovery menu
[03:03] <mianos> vfw, chrome is started in the background when I log into xcfe
[03:03] <mianos> it's not in .config/autostart
[03:03] <Mark__> Broadcom BCM 4331
[03:03] <mianos> it is starting a chain of chrome instances for the renderrer and zygot etc etc
[03:04] <delac> KBentley57: I'm still in the middle of the upgrade, so I'm not sure if something like that would even work. oh well, I'm going to let it go and try to fix it afterwards :)
[03:04] <wilee-nilee> delac, This a other then msdos partitioning setup?
[03:04] <mianos> when I run a new instance from xterm "Created new window in existing browser session."
[03:04] <chadams> so I'm guessing i should reboot again and try something else
[03:04] <KBentley57> Mark__, have you tried running "ubuntu-drivers list" and see if anything pops up
[03:04] <mianos> then it silently ignors my command line argument
[03:05] <KBentley57> delac, yeah, let it go.  when it's done, perhaps we can check the logs to see what is good
[03:05] <mianos> http://askubuntu.com/questions/125357/chrome-puts-itself-on-startup-applications
[03:05] <delac> wilee-nilee: msdos partitioning? no, there is only ubuntu in this machine with default partitioning
[03:05] <mianos> http://askubuntu.com/questions/158216/how-to-make-google-chrome-not-start-as-service
[03:05] <vfw> mianos: The default bahaviour for xfce is to reload last session.  If you reboot telling it to reload last session after closing everything, and then reboot again telling it to save last session, and then reboot again telling it not to save last session, you'll be good to go, (from then on, it will load an empty session).
[03:05] <wilee-nilee> delac, No gpt uefi are you sure?
[03:05] <bazhang> mianos, dont repeat every five seconds
[03:05] <Mark__> The would be the issue KBentley57 there's no drivers
[03:06] <Mark__> How do I add it?
[03:06] <chadams> KBentley57: I rebooted again and I'm back at the Recovery Menu. What should I try this time?
[03:06] <wilee-nilee> !broadcom | Mark__
[03:06] <KBentley57> chadams, did we try the failsafe x?
[03:06] <chadams> yeah, it hung
[03:06] <chadams> I had to reboot
[03:07] <KBentley57> chadams, ok, drop to root terminal
[03:07] <mianos> in sessions and startup there is a button "save session on logout", not clicked
[03:07] <chadams> in
[03:07] <mianos> the second item I pasted is not answered
[03:07] <bazhang> !enter | mianos
[03:07] <KBentley57> chadams, we'll try to remove the amd drivers so that you can get back to a normal desktop, does that sound like what you are wanting to do?  we can then try to reinstall them
[03:07] <delac> wilee-nilee: unless ubuntu sets that up by itself, then no
[03:08] <chadams> KBentley57: yeah, that sounds good
[03:08] <KBentley57> chadams, we will purge the amd drivers by running "sudo apt-get purge fglrx fglrx-dev fglrx-amdcccle"
[03:08] <KBentley57> without quotes of course
[03:09] <chadams> unable to write to /var/cache/apt
[03:09] <KBentley57> chadams, was there any other output?
[03:10] <chadams> W: Not using locking for read only lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[03:10] <chadams> then the /var/cache/apt error
[03:10] <chadams> then E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[03:11] <KBentley57> chadams, when you run "ls", do you see a bunch of directories?  I'm trying to see if the root folder is mounted
[03:11] <chadams> if I do ls by itself I get nothing
[03:11] <chadams> ls / shows everything though
[03:12] <mianos> ok, let me change my question so something that is suitable for a reply, chromium is not in any of my .config autostart files, my session is not marked to be saved on logout, when I start chrome, so I can use the remote debugging port I need to pass it a new command line, because something new is pre starting chromium when I start it it will attach to the existing session. I cant find what is loading it as it is forked and unattached, giviin
[03:12] <mianos> g it a parent Id of 1. This behaviour seems to be new. Has anyone heard of this?
[03:12] <KBentley57> chadams, can you change to your normal user, with su "username"?
[03:13] <chadams> KBentley57: I get the same errors logged in as my self running the apt-get purge command
[03:13] <KBentley57> can you cd to /usr/share/ati?
[03:14] <chadams> I'm getting errors about a read only file system when I hit tab to autocomplete while typing in the cd command
[03:14] <KBentley57> chadams, ok, we need to mount the root filesystem
[03:15] <KBentley57> chadams, type exit and you should return to the options meny
[03:15] <KBentley57> menu
[03:15] <chadams> I was able to cd to the folder without using autocomplete though
[03:15] <KBentley57> chadams, yeah, but we won't be able to remove the packages unless we have write access
[03:16] <chadams> back in the Recovery menu now
[03:16] <KBentley57> chadams, is there an option to mount filesystems ?
[03:16] <chadams> no
[03:16] <seeqwell> lol @ everyone and their 12.10
[03:16] <KBentley57> chadams, ok, go back to root terminal, and run mount -a
[03:16] <chadams> done
[03:17] <KBentley57> chadams, now see if you can run the sudo apt-get purge command
[03:17] <chadams> same errors
[03:18] <KBentley57> can you cd to any dir with the tab auto completing?
[03:18] <chadams> yeah
[03:18] <KBentley57> what error is it again?
[03:19] <chadams> W: Not using locking for read only lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[03:19] <chadams> E: Unable to write to /var/cache/apt
[03:19] <chadams> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[03:20] <Deihmos> ubuntu seem to suck on my HP laptop. Fan is crazy and sound does not work properly
[03:20] <KBentley57> can you do a sudo apt-get -f
[03:21] <chadams> did that
[03:21] <chadams> apt 0.9.7.5ubuntu5
[03:21] <KBentley57> chadams, now, how about apt-get update and apt-get upgrade, just to see if they throw any errors
[03:22] <mike44> I have a supported printer by gutenprint but i cant figure out how to install it correctly, does anyone have an idea?
[03:23] <chadams> sudo apt-get upgrade produces the same errors as apt-get purge
[03:23] <Deihmos> is there a way to solve loud fan noise?
[03:23] <chadams> apt-get update the same errors, plus a lot of downloading errors
[03:24] <almoxarife> chadams: have you tried deleting the 'lock' file mentioned?
[03:24] <KBentley57> chadams, i wonder if networking is enabled.  can you ping google?
[03:24] <blackshirt> chadams, maybe you need more detail
[03:24] <chadams> read only file system when trying to delete the lock file
[03:25] <chadams> unknown host www.google.ca
[03:25] <almoxarife> chadams: have you rebooted since seeing the Read/only error?
[03:25] <seeqwell> sudo apt-get -f install
[03:25] <seeqwell> you forgot the install
[03:25] <blackshirt> chadams, like your connections problem
[03:26] <chadams> almoxarife, blackshirt: KBentley57 has been helping me
[03:26] <seeqwell> everyone is going back to debian
[03:27] <almoxarife> chadams: i didn't ask who was helping you, i asked if you had rebooted since the RO error, it's a yes or no question!
[03:27] <mike44> Anyone familiar with gutenprint here?
[03:27] <chadams> almoxarife, no
[03:28] <chadams> I did a mount -a
[03:29] <blackshirt> seeqwell, no matter, debian was greats
[03:31] <saruthiko> Is it possible to install a wireless driver in ndiswrapper that only comes as an .exe?
[03:32] <blackshirt> chadams, you can't ping google, check your internet connections
[03:32] <chadams> i'm rebooting again
[03:33] <almoxarife> saruthiko: maybe not, ndis uses the ini file, the exe is a self-exec-zip?
[03:33] <blackshirt> inf
[03:34] <chadams> blackshirt, there didn't seem to be a start-network, or network-start command
[03:34] <chadams> i thought I recalled that existing
[03:34] <almoxarife> blackshirt: right, inf
[03:34] <blackshirt> chadams, what you mean ?
[03:34] <saruthiko> almoxarife: I don't know.  All I know is that the only available download is an .exe and it cannot be opened in archive manager.
[03:35] <chadams> one version of linux i used had such a command, internet worked after i typed it
[03:35] <chadams> from the console
[03:35] <chadams> might have been linux mint
[03:36] <almoxarife> saruthiko: there is 'wine'
[03:36] <chadams> that or knoppix
[03:36] <blackshirt> chadams, what type connection you are using ? Lan ? Usb modem ?
[03:36] <chadams> lan
[03:37] <saruthiko> almoxarife: would wine work for something like installing a driver?..  I didn't understand it to be used for that kind of thing.
[03:37] <almoxarife> chadams: lets assume you don't have a crippled system, what is the aversion to a reboot? is it a server doing the queens works?
[03:38] <chadams> I just rebooted
[03:38] <chadams> to the recovery menu, then to the root shell
[03:38] <almoxarife> saruthiko: wine wouldn't work for installing the driver into linux, but it would open the exe assuming it's a self-extracting thing
[03:39] <saruthiko> almoxarife: ah, good point! i'll try that.
[03:39] <almoxarife> saruthiko: this is why a copy of xp via vbox is always a good thing to keep around :)
[03:40] <blackshirt> chadams, commonly if you using dhcp for your connections, use dhclient would bring you to up
[03:42] <chadams> dhclient lan0?
[03:42] <blackshirt> chadams, dhclient eth0,
[03:43] <blackshirt> its depends your lan card interfaces
[03:43] <chadams> seems like it can't start because of a read only file system
[03:43] <chadams> same issue I had before
[03:43] <chadams> with trying to get my graphics drivers uninstalled and reinstalled
[03:43] <blackshirt> chadams, that maybe you have a problems with youur disk/partition...
[03:43] <chadams> I'm on my laptop talking here, and trying to fix my desktop's ubuntu installation
[03:44] <chadams> blackshirt, that would make sense
[03:44] <almoxarife> chadams: time to look at the prob being a crippled ext4 file sys
[03:44] <chadams> I booted to the Recovery menu, then went to the root console
[03:45] <chadams> luckily this is through the wubi
[03:45] <chadams> so reinstalling if needed won't be hard
[03:45] <chadams> i'll just loose all the setup I did over the last day and a half
[03:45] <almoxarife> chadams: yes, re-install
[03:46] <almoxarife> the issues you are having are not worth the time
[03:46] <chadams> *sigh*, if I install it using usb or cd, will it be less likely to corrupt?
[03:46] <chadams> i.e. creating an actual partition and such
[03:46] <blackshirt> chadams, fsck your disk
[03:46] <eli___> hello, could you help me please? my system returned 'No entry for terminal type "xterm";
[03:46] <eli___> using dumb terminal settings.' when i started psql. what can i do searching? would you teach me?
[03:47] <eli___>  
[03:47] <chadams> blackshirt, fsck'ing
[03:48] <almoxarife> chadams: a wubi install does all the disk creating, if you are wanting to do actual disk creation then get 'gparted' free up disk space and do an actual install, yes you will lose MBR, so what, you got grub
[03:50] <chadams> I ordered some 12.10 cds anyway
[03:50] <somsip> eli___: possibly you need ncurses-term to be installed. What shell are you using?
[03:51] <eli___> somsip: bash
[03:51] <somsip> eli___: I used to have the same thing with urxvt256, and installing ncurses-term fixed it. Are you on a standard install?
[03:52] <eli___> yes
[03:52] <gurjeet> I need kinda urgent help. I was messing around, trying to install nvidia drivers; instructions from here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaManual. That didn't work out so I reverted every step.
[03:52] <eli___> ah i don't know what about installed. i checked
[03:52] <eli___> DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu
[03:52] <eli___> DISTRIB_RELEASE=12.04
[03:52] <chadams> blackshirt, fsck seems to be hung
[03:52] <FloodBot1> eli___: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:52] <eli___> DISTRIB_CODENAME=precise
[03:52] <eli___> DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS"
[03:53] <somsip> eli___: I'd suggest installing ncurses-term to see if that's an easy fix. Simple to remove if it's not
[03:53] <gurjeet> But now I can login into the gnome but after the login, I don't get the Unity launcher, statusbar etc. Strangely the commands in 'Startup Applications' do get executed and I can see my applications launched.
[03:55] <gurjeet> I can see the icon on desktop, can open applications like terminal, and launch more applications from there. But I am missing the Unity panel, and the status bar!
[03:55] <chadams> looks like I'll need to reinstall, when installing drivers for my radeon next time, should i get them from the amd site or from the ubuntu software center?
[03:55] <blackshirt> chadams, looks bad
[03:56] <chadams> blackshirt, alright, i'll boot into win7 then
[03:57] <chadams> uninstall, and then I'll try it again when I get the dvds
[03:57] <chadams> still have ubuntu 12.10 running on my laptop
[03:57] <chadams> much better than win8
[03:58] <epikvision> chadams, that's right!
[03:58] <chadams> win8 feels horrible
[03:58] <chadams> everything feels glitchy about the interface
[03:58] <chadams> poorly designed, even
[03:58] <chadams> hard to use
[03:58] <chadams> laptop graphics drivers don't work
[03:59] <somsip> chadams: we get the idea...OT
[04:00] <Captain_Claw> Anyone using gnome-shell on ubuntu precise?
[04:00] <chadams> I'll be using ubuntu to develop the linux version of my game engine, and I'll definately put it up on the ubuntu store
[04:00] <chadams> when the game is finished
[04:03] <sk_> somebody spask chinese
[04:03] <epikvision> Good morning! What are the major shells to learn for Unix development?
[04:04] <zombifier> !cn
[04:05] <zombifier> epikvision: Most of the time Bash is enough
[04:05] <Danon> cool the /time command still works
[04:06] <sk_> thinks
[04:06] <wilee-nilee> epikvision, There is a ##unix chanel if needed
[04:07] <Gerowen> Why does Gimp from the Ubuntu repos only have XCF, Bzip and Gzip as formats to save images in?  I don't have JPG, PNG, BMP or anything.
[04:09] <jafletch> herro
[04:09] <zombifier> Gerowen: You need to "export" an image in order to save it as PNG, GIF, etc.
[04:09] <brandon420> heyy
[04:09] <brandon420> jafletch =)
[04:09] <brandon420> Can someone help me get my external working again? I just added "discard,noatime" to my /etc/fstab for the speed boost that it gives a ssd, and it caused my external hdd to not mount...
[04:09] <Gerowen> zombifier: Yeah I just noticed that while reading the Gimp help file, :p
[04:09] <cluelesscoder> so how do I install software from a ppa? I've trying to install nightinggale http://getnightingale.com/all-versions.php
[04:09] <Gerowen> zombifier: Thanks though!
[04:10] <cluelesscoder> I've gotten the ppa added using sudo add-apt-repository but when I try to install it using sudo apt-get upgrade, it's not installing
[04:10] <zombifier> cluelesscoder: You must do a "sudo apt-get update" first
[04:10] <cluelesscoder> also don't have any idea what name I would use if I installed using sudo apt-get install ... this is the first time I've tried installing with a ppa; usually just use synaptic to mark for installation
[04:10] <cluelesscoder> zombifier, I did do sudo apt-get update...
[04:10] <brandon420> cluelesscoder, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/how-to-add-a-ppa-to-software-sources-in-ubuntu
[04:11] <zombifier> Then open Synaptic
[04:11] <brandon420> cluelesscoder, Then just sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install application-name
[04:11] <cluelesscoder> how would I find the technical application name?
[04:11] <saruthiko> almoxarife: it was a self-extracting zip. :) good call!
[04:11] <brandon420> cluelesscoder, google does wonders. One second and i will search for you.
[04:12] <cluelesscoder> already tried nightinggale, it doesn't work
[04:12] <delac> can anyone explain to me why System Settings -> Details has my gpu details when used from live-usb, but after install they are "unkown"?
[04:12] <cluelesscoder> already been through a few forums and ubuntu pages
[04:12] <brandon420> cluelesscoder, http://handytutorial.com/install-nightingale-ubuntu-12-10-12-04/
[04:12] <brandon420> do it with only one g
[04:12] <brandon420> And thanks for that, i am going to install that now.
[04:13] <brandon420> Can someone help me get my external working again? I just added "discard,noatime" to my /etc/fstab for the speed boost that it gives a ssd, and it caused my external hdd to not mount.
[04:13] <simplew> how can i change lightdm theme so that appears like when the one installed in ubuntu, i have isntalled kubuntu
[04:14] <almoxarife> delac: because some driver/app in the stick is not in the final install?
[04:14] <eli___> hello
[04:14] <cluelesscoder> huh, yeah, sorry that was dumb
[04:14] <brandon420> simplew, Have you tried logging out and choosing it at the login screen?
[04:14] <brandon420> cluelesscoder, we all make mistakes, lol.
[04:15] <zombifier> delac: what is your graphic card?
[04:15] <brandon420> Can anyone help me to get my system to recognize my external hdd?
[04:16] <delac> almoxarife, almoxarife: the gpu is just lousy intel integrated. and what driver that could be?
[04:18] <brandon420> delac, i am curious to know the answer to your question aswell. I have the same problem but i do not notice any graphics issues...
[04:18] <almoxarife> delac: the proof that the gpu is/was good enough was it being seen while running off the live/stick, as to what driver you are missing i am clueless, can you do a side by side comparision? or at least get the logs for xorg while on stick and compare to the installed?
[04:18] <delac> brandon420: neither do I. it's just a very ligh anoyance :)
[04:19] <brandon420> Can someone help me tweak my ssd on 12.10?
[04:20] <kristenbb> hi, I've just installed ubuntu (1) alongside another ubuntu (2), on two different hard drives (A and B). If I boot on A, I have access to (1), and if I boot on B, nothing happens. I want to access (2). How to do that ?
[04:20] <delac> almoxarife: I'm not so sure it's xorg problem. Probably has more to do with the System Settings that fetches the information
[04:20] <almoxarife> delac: comparing the two dirs/folders would not hurt either , /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/
[04:21] <kristenbb> hi, I've just installed ubuntu (12.04) alongside another ubuntu (10.04), on two different hard drives (A and B). If I boot on A, I have access to (10.04), and if I boot on B, nothing happens. I want to access (12.04). How to do that ? I think it's a MBR issue, but I don't know how to deal with it.
[04:22] <brandon420> kristenbb, a shot in the dark, but have you looked in /media/?
[04:23] <kristenbb> brandon420: looked for what?
[04:23] <almoxarife> kristenbb: sounds more like a mount issue? you have two partions at least, they should load into either OS running at the time
[04:24] <brandon420> kristenbb, for the drive. Not sure if a internal hdd would show in /media/. but that is where external hdds mount too
[04:24] <delac> almoxarife:  there aint any  /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/
[04:24] <brandon420> almoxarife, think you could help me get my external to mount correctly? =x
[04:24] <newbchessplayer> hello
[04:24] <brandon420> hay
[04:25] <kristenbb> almoxarife: I'm sorry I don't understand what you mean? My question is, how can I make the new OS start, instead of the old one.
[04:25] <almoxarife> delac: my bad then, i was looking at my setup on opensuse, the equiv must exist
[04:25] <simplew> what do i need to install to have lightdm appearing like when installing ubuntu???
[04:26] <almoxarife> kristenbb: you mean you don't see one of the os's on the grub screen? sort of lost now
[04:27] <kristenbb> almoxarife: actually I don't even see any grub screen
[04:27] <brandon420> almoxarife, She installed ubuntu twice and is not able to choose what to boot. Is what i gather.
[04:27] <borkdox> kristenbb, you can run grub form either the installation CD or the 10.04 install.  you will be able to autodetect all the OS and chose the drive on which GRUB will be installed. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#Reinstalling_GRUB_2
[04:27] <delac> almoxarife: well, ubuntu doesnt use xorg.conf anymore...
[04:27] <newbchessplayer> my computer is running 12.04. It takes a loooong time to restart and im keep getting notifications that Ubuntu couldn't download from the repositories. I want to reinstall the whole system but there are a lot of programs with setups that took a long time. Is there another option for me? Possibly to upgrade in some special way so that it fixes the problems I'm experiencing?
[04:28] <saruthiko> how do I check which driver my wifi card is using/
[04:28] <almoxarife> delac: correct, not looking for xorg.conf, looking for a dir with some rules that are auto created at boot via udev(i think, not sure about that one)
[04:29] <wilee-nilee> kristenbb, When you installed to the second drive was this an auto install, and have you tried booting from that drive?
[04:29] <almoxarife> kristenbb: what do you choose the OS to run from?
[04:30] <cutegeekgirl> :P
[04:30] <cutegeekgirl> please  help me
[04:30] <cutegeekgirl> my computer is broken
[04:30] <kristenbb> wilee-nilee: yes I have tried booting from that drive, but nothing happens. I think the grub information was installed on the other drive, maybe ?
[04:30] <borkdox> lol
[04:30] <newbchessplayer> :P
[04:31] <kristenbb> wilee-nilee: however, if I run a live cd, it correctly guesses that there are two OS installed.
[04:31] <wilee-nilee> kristenbb, Thats a good conjecture you can as suggested use a live cd and chroot to the new install and load grub to its mbr, or we could have you run a script that will give us the info really needed to put in a pastebin.
[04:31] <brandon420> Can someone help me get preload working?
[04:31] <almoxarife> kristenbb: run in terminal on both os's 'sudo update-grub'
[04:32] <newbchessplayer> my computer is running 12.04. It takes a loooong time to restart and im keep getting notifications that Ubuntu couldn't download from the repositories. I want to reinstall the whole system but there are a lot of programs with setups that took a long time. Is there another option for me? Possibly to upgrade in some special way so that it fixes the problems I'm experiencing?
[04:32] <kristenbb> wilee-nilee: ok so once I have run a live cd, and chosen 'try ubuntu', what next ?
[04:32] <almoxarife> brandon420: preload works in the background, not much one can do to it besides installing it
[04:33] <brandon420> Any other tricks i can use to speed up my system?
[04:33] <saruthiko> how do I check which driver my wifi card is using?
[04:33] <almoxarife> brandon420: i know of one really scary one :) , prelink
[04:33] <somsip> brandon420: speed up what, exactly?
[04:34] <brandon420> somsip, boot times, load times. Before i upgraded to 12.10 my computer seemed much faster..
[04:34] <wilee-nilee> kriskropd, Here is a grub wiki that defaults to a chroot method, it can be a bit confusing so if you follow it feel free to ask any questions.
[04:34] <wilee-nilee> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_ChRoot
[04:34] <somsip> brandon420: ah - I can't help with 12.10 upgrade issues, sorry
[04:35] <brandon420> somsip, would upgrading change my modifications i made for my ssd?
[04:35] <wilee-nilee> kristenbb, Sorry, Here is a grub wiki that defaults to a chroot method, it can be a bit confusing so if you follow it feel free to ask any questions.
[04:35] <wilee-nilee>   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_ChRoot
[04:35] <almoxarife> brandon420: nevermind about prelink, something else is eating the cpu cycles, looked at the logs for obvious? system monitor for hogs? 'htop' also good for it, for the cli purists
[04:36] <brandon420> almoxarife, I have, nothing seems out of the ordinary. but my boot times have went from like 8 seconds to 15-20
[04:36] <brandon420> and i am back to waiting for stuff to load again. -_-
[04:36] <newbchessplayer> my computer is running 12.04. It takes a loooong time to restart and im keep getting notifications that Ubuntu couldn't download from the repositories. I want to reinstall the whole system but there are a lot of programs with setups that took a long time. Is there another option for me? Possibly to upgrade in some special way so that it fixes the problems I'm experiencing?
[04:37] <almoxarife> brandon420: install 'bootchart' something pretty to look for issues with
[04:37] <zombifier> newbchessplayer: what are the exact messages of those notifications?
[04:38] <kristenbb> wilee-nilee: I'm doing it. Is the step 'Mount the critical virtual filesystems.' really required?
[04:38] <brandon420> newbchessplayer, I am going to have to say that there isn't. Upgrading /may/ help out a little, but i wouldn't get your hopes up. I have had to start over again may times because of a random system error. You could go through and trouble shoot each and every problem though. Check all of the recent changes that you have made to the system.
[04:38] <brandon420> almoxarife, I will try that.
[04:39] <wilee-nilee> kristenbb, #8 yes
[04:39] <wilee-nilee> kristenbb, Just copy and paste that command
[04:39] <almoxarife> brandon420: btw, 'preload' is used post boot, but i used to think it made a diff
[04:40] <djjeff> [   11.146278] vesafb: mode is 640x480x32, linelength=2560, pages=0      how do I change this to 1920x1080x32   ?
[04:40] <almoxarife> brandon420: 'prelink' that's the ticket :)
[04:41] <newbchessplayer> zombifier, hold on im going to upload a screenshot
[04:41] <brandon420> almoxarife, Could you give me the tldr; version of what prelink is? (Wondering if it would be worth the time learning/researching)
[04:41] <almoxarife> djjeff: vesa sounds like fallback/failsafe
[04:41] <brandon420> bootchart is looking pretty niffty though
[04:41] <djjeff> can I disable vesa ?
[04:42] <djjeff> cause when ubuntu boots thats the resolution it uses
[04:42] <brandon420> ouch
[04:43] <almoxarife> brandon420: not sure what version its at, google it, its really off subject here, i personally believe it does speed up the whole process in kde, most others don't, so its really a try and see if it works for you
[04:44] <wilee-nilee> djjeff, That resolution is probably to high at the grub menu, you can change it in this file though and run a update-grub afterwards before rebooting. gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub
[04:44] <almoxarife> djjeff: what graphics card/capability do you have? being in vesa graphics ususally means something is not running at its best graphics wiise
[04:44] <brandon420> almoxarife, Alright, i will check it out. I am about to do a reboot and see what bootchart gives me. So i will return in a few minutes
[04:44] <newbchessplayer> zombifier, did you get that
[04:44] <saruthiko> I've blacklisted iwlwifi and installed the proprietary wifi driver via ndiswrapper and I can see it under "currently installed windows drivers," but ubuntu doesn't seem to realize I have wifi.  Under enable networking (which is checked) there is no enable wireless.  Any idea what I'm missing?
[04:44] <kristenbb> wilee-nilee: ok, I'm done with the tutorial. I'm at step 11. I typed 'update-grub'. BUT the output of this command is: "found linnux image: /boot/... found initrd image: /boot/... found memtest86+ image: /boot/... found ubuntu 10.04 oon /dev/sda4. done" There is no "found ubuntu 12.04..." is that expected ?
[04:45] <almoxarife> saruthiko: headers for your kernel?
[04:45] <saruthiko> almoxarife: I don't know what that means
[04:45] <djjeff> I installed NVIDIA drivers from NVIDIAs website
[04:45] <djjeff> cause I have a Geforce GTX 560 ti
[04:46] <wilee-nilee> kristenbb, Did you run the sudo fdisk -l command to confirm the 12.04 partition and mount it first?
[04:46] <almoxarife> djjeff: might want to look at all the reasons to delete that install and look at nvidia-current package
[04:46] <kristenbb> wilee-nilee: mount it first ? what do you mean ? I chrooted into the 12.04 partition.
[04:47] <wilee-nilee> kristenbb,  #5 command in that wiki
[04:47] <kristenbb> wilee-nilee: (which is  on /dev/sdb)
[04:47] <almoxarife> djjeff: with that kind of graphics you should be doing better than vesa, unless you intentionally are booting into fallback/failsafe mode
[04:47] <kristenbb> wilee-nilee: yes I issued that command.
[04:48] <djjeff> will installing nvidia-current affect my GAMES in WINE 1.5.16
[04:49] <wilee-nilee> kristenbb, It is hard to say what is going on from here I would rather see this script to get all the info needed myself, to not be guessing here. http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[04:49] <almoxarife> djjeff: i would hope 'wine' appreciates a nvidia driver over 'vesa' , not sure what would happen though
[04:49] <CreepDeck> Hi, I downloaded an rss feed for viewing in the terminal, however, there is a lot of html stuff in it, is there a way to remove that, and then show the news one line after the other?
[04:50] <brandon420> almoxarife, Have you ever used bootchart?
[04:50] <almoxarife> brandon420: i have
[04:50] <wilee-nilee> kristenbb, You just want to close the chroot with crtl-D and run the script unless you want to reboot to see whats up, the script will tell us if anything is missing and where everything is at.
[04:50] <grendal_prime> anyone ever had any luck with lvs?
[04:51] <brandon420> http://i.imgur.com/aEOE0.png
[04:51] <newbchessplayer> zombifier, how do you remove the redshift ppa and how do I get the correct ppa?
[04:51] <almoxarife> CreepDeck: you want to cli rss feed stripped of html, don't like a nice gui rss reader?
[04:51] <fsrvg> pastebin.com/iAR0rnhP
[04:51] <CreepDeck> almoxarife: nah, I am a terminal guy.
[04:52] <kristenbb> wilee-nilee: I rebooted but the problem is still the same.
[04:52] <reuf> hello
[04:52] <zombifier> newbchessplayer: sudo add-apt-repository -r ppa:jonls/redshift-ppa
[04:52] <almoxarife> CreepDeck: well then terminal guy, there you have it, you need a html-strip from my rss feed dump script
[04:53] <CreepDeck> Ok, thanks!
[04:53] <wilee-nilee> kristenbb, I would run the bootscript, it will get us a lot closer to finding what is up, you would just paste all the text to a pastebin. http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[04:54] <newbchessplayer> I have to go. thanks for the advice zombifier
[04:54] <kristenbb> wilee-nilee: ok
[04:55] <reuf> i have chomre installed, and i want to control more than one sound on different browsers but on system level
[04:55] <reuf> or
[04:55] <reuf> if i have firefox and chrome and i want to mute sound on firefox but leave it on chrome on system level - how?
[04:57] <almoxarife> reuf: are you running both browser at the same time?
[04:57] <GenghisCain> hmm
[04:57] <reuf> almoxarife: yes
[04:58] <almoxarife> reuf: i am guessing that there is a good reason for it
[04:58] <wilee-nilee> kristenbb, So the 10.04 boots though it seems did you run a sudo update-grub there yet?
[04:58] <kristenbb> wilee-nilee: no
[04:58] <reuf> i want to listen to music on one browser and play a game on the other which has a soun and no options to mute the sound
[04:58] <kristenbb> wilee-nilee: i'm running the script now, maybe i'll do that next
[04:59] <wilee-nilee> kristenbb, YOu might try that first if 12.04 is in good shape it should show then.
[04:59] <wilee-nilee> kriskropd, Cool if you have the script just post it first then.
[04:59] <reuf> http://dagobah.net/flash/the_worlds_hardest_game.swf < i want to play this, and listen to this > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLjHw-Xc_N8 ; but i cannot seem to find a way to mute the sound on the game
[05:00] <wilee-nilee> kristenbb, We want the script to read exactly as it is a update grub wil change things.
[05:00] <almoxarife> reuf: while both are running with sound coming from either, look at the 'soundmixer' applet, reduce output from the one you don't care to listen to?
[05:01] <CrazyHorse18> If i have a directory called deploy:deploy 770 /apps   is there a way i can default all directories and files under that to be also owned by the deploy:deploy group?
[05:01] <CrazyHorse18> group and user that is
[05:02] <reuf> almoxarife: alright fixed it - works
[05:02] <reuf> thanks
[05:02] <almoxarife> :)
[05:02] <almoxarife> gui's are our friends
[05:03] <kristenbb> wilee-nilee: pastebin.com/dNAj2SYt
[05:03] <wilee-nilee> thanks hold on
[05:05] <ace_leo> hey all, noob alert ;)
[05:05] <wilee-nilee> kristenbb, Can you copy all the text from that script, primarily I see you are missing part of the full grub files needed in the 12.04, but all the text is needed.
[05:07] <brandon420> A weird question, Is there anyway to remove the ubuntu splash screen and make it display the active terminal?
[05:08] <almoxarife> brandon420: yes, grub edit
[05:08] <kristenbb> wilee-nilee: which part do you need in the results ? I'm not confortable publicly copy pasting things about my computer that I don't understand.
[05:08] <brandon420> almoxarife, could you push me in the right direction of googling?
[05:08] <almoxarife> brandon420: using gnome or kde?
[05:09] <wilee-nilee> kristenbb, All that text tells nothing about your computer that is worrisome, we use this script everyday and there is no exposure.
[05:09] <brandon420> gnome i guess... unitiy.
[05:09] <brandon420> (also have gnome installed)
[05:09] <almoxarife> brandon420: via terminal          gksu gedit /etc/default/grub
[05:12] <almoxarife> splash=silent quiet <--- brandon420 do you see either of those two words in the 'kernel' line?
[05:13] <wilee-nilee> kristenbb, here is one of mine run with a tool called bootrepair if that helps. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1319937/
[05:13] <devjustforfun> People how to know where my apache2 logs stored
[05:14] <SwedeMike> devjustforfun: /var/log/apache2 mot likely.
[05:14] <almoxarife> devjustforfun: /var/log/apache???
[05:14] <brandon420> almoxarife, not any more. lol.
[05:14] <devjustforfun> -bash: cd: apache2/: Permission denied If i have that?
[05:14] <almoxarife> brandon420: put it back when you tire of the screen show
[05:14] <SwedeMike> devjustforfun: sudo -i first.
[05:14] <brandon420> almoxarife, Alright, thank you. I shall return
[05:15] <devjustforfun> i havent permissions
[05:15] <devjustforfun> at all
[05:15] <brandon420> devjustforfun, sudo passwd
[05:15] <devjustforfun> maybe exist another way how to see
[05:15] <brandon420> set the password, then su -
[05:15] <almoxarife> brandon420: run update-grub after the edit
[05:15] <SwedeMike> !root
[05:15] <brandon420> almoxarife, Already did. =)
[05:15] <SwedeMike> brandon420: please don't recommend people to set root password.
[05:16] <brandon420> =/
[05:16] <brandon420> Sorry. lol.
[05:16] <brandon420> It comes in handy sometimes. =)
[05:16] <devjustforfun> i'm not sudo user
[05:16] <devjustforfun> may be some link exist which i may see
[05:17] <devjustforfun> to apache2 logs
[05:17] <almoxarife> brandon420: don't you have the util 'gnome-system-log'? did i spell that correctly?
[05:17] <SwedeMike> devjustforfun: you have to be root or be in the adm group to look at the apache logs.
[05:17] <almoxarife> gui's are our friends
[05:18] <devjustforfun> SwedeMike it's not posible for my account ))
[05:19] <devjustforfun> SwedeMike maybe admin might do for me some links to my folder and that will be work?
[05:19] <almoxarife> devjustforfun: in terminal   gksu gnome-system-log
[05:19] <devjustforfun> links from apache log to my user folder
[05:19] <devjustforfun> i havent gui for gksu
[05:20] <devjustforfun> gui not installed
[05:20] <grendal_prime> this is making me crazy
[05:20] <grendal_prime> er
[05:21] <almoxarife> devjustforfun: tail (-f) /var/log/apache????.log
[05:21] <almoxarife> devjustforfun: sudo tail (-f) /var/log/apache????.log
[05:22] <devjustforfun> almoxarife i'm not sudo user
[05:22] <almoxarife> devjustforfun: good luck
[05:22] <devjustforfun> ))
[05:22] <Jimster480-Lapto> can anyone here get on rapidshare?
[05:22] <chasedawg> Hey my sound isn't working on my recently installed 12.10, suggestions?
[05:23] <devjustforfun> almoxarife maybe i should ask my administrator to give me a symbolic link to apache logs?
[05:23] <almoxarife> devjustforfun: yes
[05:24] <simplew> I have sintalled kubuntu but i would like to have the login screen like it apepars in ubuntu, what do i need to do?
[05:24] <devjustforfun> that means if admin do something ln -s /var/log /home/myuser/logs that means myuser will be access logs
[05:25] <almoxarife> devjustforfun: install 'lightdm'
[05:25] <almoxarife> devjustforfun: carefully
[05:25] <devjustforfun> lightdm what's that,
[05:25] <chasedawg> Hey my sound isn't working on my recently installed 12.10, suggestions?
[05:25] <devjustforfun> ?
[05:27] <almoxarife> chasedawg: install 'alsamixer' run it in terminal, see 'mm' shown in 'output' devices?
[05:28] <chasedawg> almoxarife: I don't see mm in output devices
[05:28] <croz> I need some help with Grub. I installed Easy BCD trying to fix something for a game. Then I installed Windows 8. Didn't like it so I reinstalled Windows 7. After that I decided to give Linux a go since I hadn't used it in some months. I reinstalled Ubuntu thinking it would just wipe my old install automatically. I ran boot-repair and now Grub is there, but when I select Linux Mint it takes me
[05:28] <croz> to the old installation.
[05:28] <devjustforfun> almoxarife that means if admin do something ln -s /var/log /home/myuser/logs that means myuser will be access logs
[05:30] <chasedawg> almoxarife: just kidding, I found the 'mm', what should I do with 'mm'
[05:31] <almoxarife> devjustforfun: i am not good with 'if's , i don't know apache, but i assume that it has a group and i would ask to me put in it, that's a guess btw
[05:31] <almoxarife> chasedawg: un-mm the outputs, every single one of them
[05:32] <almoxarife> chasedawg: assuming you done that, reboot, good luck
[05:44] <Jimster480-L> anyone around here who can help me on something for a sec
[05:49] <grendal_prime> grrr linux virtual server (load balancer)
[05:49] <grendal_prime> anyone ever got this working?
[05:52] <physically_fit> whattup
[05:55] <rald> are there package sources for old linux like warty warthog?
[05:59] <the_dark_knight> I have been trying to connect to a machine but I get "ssh: connect to host 192.168.1.3 port 22: Connection refused
[06:00] <julius_> hi
[06:00] <julius_> how do i enable a firefox that runs as a differnt user to use my soundcard?   terminal error:  ALSA lib confmisc.c:768:(parse_card) cannot find card '0'
[06:00] <the_dark_knight> I have been trying to solve it for a while but no luck. what seems to be the problem?
[06:01] <julius_> the_dark_knight, is that for me?
[06:02] <somsip> the_dark_knight: is the ip correct, is sshd running, is the port open...what have you checked?
[06:05] <the_dark_knight> somsip: how do I check if the port is open. sshd seems to be running because I can ssh other machines except this one?
[06:05] <NoOova> Hello all!
[06:05] <NoOova> what rights must has /etc/shadow
[06:05] <NoOova> ?
[06:05] <Gallomimia> hey what's the package to install the do-release-upgrade command again?
[06:06] <the_dark_knight> somsip: did netstat -nlp | grep :22 it says sshd is running on 22.
[06:06] <somsip> the_dark_knight: netstat -a | grep 22
[06:06] <Gallomimia> update-manager-core
[06:07] <somsip> the_dark_knight: you're trying to login using user/pass or key? Does the /etc/ssh/sshd_config allow the method you're trying to use?
[06:07] <almoxarife> NoOova:  admin
[06:09] <somsip> NoOova: root:shadow 640
[06:09] <the_dark_knight> somsip: trying to ssh with user and pass
[06:09] <somsip> the_dark_knight: so you need PasswordAuthentication no
[06:10] <somsip> the_dark_knight: sorry - bad paste. That should be yes, of course
[06:10] <the_dark_knight> somsip: netstat -nlp | grep :22 gave some results. but  sudo netstat -a | grep 22 didn't show anything about port 22
[06:10] <somsip> the_dark_knight: I use -a without really understanding other options, I admit
[06:13] <almoxarife> the_dark_knight: you are the client ,yes?
[06:13] <akis> dows any one has experience from wine application?
[06:13] <the_dark_knight> almoxarife: yes.
[06:13] <paran0id_penguin> high
[06:13] <paran0id_penguin> i need some help
[06:14] <paran0id_penguin> i want to renice a job called par2 but in the background
[06:14] <erase_> hello. fresh installed 12.10 on my eeepc. does not start X. :|
[06:14] <erase_> known problem?
[06:15] <the_dark_knight> almoxarife: somsip, what I don't understand is how I can ssh other machines but not this one?
[06:15] <paran0id_penguin> yeah ask doctor Xorg
[06:15] <somsip> the_dark_knight: it suggests that your client is okay, but your ssh server on the remote server is not.
[06:16] <almoxarife> the_dark_knight: are you sure the host creditials are correct
[06:17] <the_dark_knight> almoxarife: It doesn't even ask for the pass. when I hit ssh user@IP. it gives the "connection refused" error
[06:19] <almoxarife> the_dark_knight:  you hit a fire wall
[06:19] <Guest45092> the_dark_knight: The system may be poweroff or perhabs external connecton is refussed or the system has  no openssh-client installed at that system  if it is debian based
[06:19] <Guest45092> the_dark_knight: Or may be due to iptable rules, Pardon me if i am wrong
[06:21] <the_dark_knight> Guest45092: the machine is right next to me and can ssh my machine.
[06:22] <erase_> does it have the openssh-server package installer, the_dark_knight ?
[06:22] <erase_> *installed
[06:23] <Guest45092> the_dark_knight: it means that machine has set iptables for no ssh connection also there might be a possibility that, that machine have no openssh-server  installed that is necessary
[06:31] <brandon420> How can I change the login screen, or completely disable it?
[06:32] <erase_> brandon420, set it to auto-login
[06:33] <arkfille> Hello
[06:34] <the_dark_knight> Guest45092: what should I do then?
[06:35] <erase_> the_dark_knight: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[06:35] <the_dark_knight> erase_: on the machine I can't ssh to right?
[06:35] <erase_> yes
[06:36] <paran0id_penguin> the dark bright
[06:36] <Guest45092> the_dark_knight: Go and install openssh-server if already not nistalled in that system and then allow your system ip for ssh to that machine using iptables, you can flush iptables but it is not good idea, use a rule for ssh
[06:36] <paran0id_penguin> ufw is ok?
[06:37] <brandon420> can i disable plyouth?
[06:37] <StormOne> hey
[06:37] <brandon420> plymouth**
[06:37] <paran0id_penguin> yes, but you have to ask the puritanians there
[06:38] <Guest45092> the_dark_knight:  You can also set iptbales rules by ip and also by MAC address
[06:38] <the_dark_knight> Guest45092: I don't understand the "allow your system ip for ssh to that machine using  iptables
[06:38] <the_dark_knight> " part
[06:38] <paran0id_penguin> brandon420 i toke you understand
[06:39] <Guest45092> the_dark_knight: i suggest to read a manual for ssh connection, go through google
[06:39] <Guest45092> the_dark_knight:  Good Luck Man !
[06:41] <brandon420> paran0id_penguin, i have no idea what that means.
[06:41] <brandon420> lol
[06:41] <paran0id_penguin> ah the puritans ruled plymouth
[06:41] <paran0id_penguin> so you have to ask those dudes
[06:42] <brandon420> hahaha
[06:43] <the_dark_knight> Guest45092: thanks man installing openssh-server on machine 2 did the trick. so openssh-server was to allow someone to ssh access not to do ssh on some other machine. right?
[06:46] <Guest45092> the_dark_knight: To connect to any machine that machine have must installed openssh-server and to make a connecton to that machine you must have to install open-ssh client
[06:46] <Guest45092> the_dark_knight: * openssh-client
[06:48] <afidegnum> hello pls this is a sample shell script which is aimed to split csv files into pieces and preserving the header. so far, it's aimed to call a single file. how do I split multiple files?
[06:48] <devjustforfun> People hi. i have a version of php 5.3.18 and i setup in my suhosin.ini file which located in /etc/php5/apache2/conf.d  suhosin.memory_limit=512 and in my script i setup ini_set('memory_limit', '512M'); but i have anyway error: PHP Fatal error:  Allowed memory size of 134217728 bytes exhausted
[06:48] <afidegnum> http://pastebin.com/a0tnR38r
[06:48] <devjustforfun> Any suggestion please
[06:51] <erase_> afidegnum: for i in $(ls); do script $i; done
[06:51] <Gallomimia> devjustforfun: that seems like you hit the ulimit
[06:51] <devjustforfun> Gallomimia ulimit what's that?
[06:51] <Gallomimia> i'm not well versed in working with those or changing them. but do a google and read the man for ulimit
[06:52] <devjustforfun> Gallomimia how to increase that ?
[06:52] <zblut1> Hello
[06:52] <afidegnum> erase_: euh number shoud I modify? or I should add to the end?
[06:52] <zblut1> does anyone know how to add a custom action to the right click menu for gnome-terminal on Ubuntu 10.04?
[06:52] <Gallomimia> first check what the ulimits for memory are and compare to the error message you got
[06:52] <Gallomimia> just to see if it's in the neighborhood of what's going on
[06:53] <devjustforfun> ulimits that related to my operation system?
[06:53] <Gallomimia> i am having trouble with my new vps giving me an error when performing do-release-upgrade for out of memory problem. can anyone give me a suggestion there? i think i need to mount some swap
[06:53] <erase_> afidegnum, no. you run this command in the command line. replace "script" by your script filename, and "ls" by "ls thedirectorywherethefilesare"
[06:53] <erase_> afidegnum: for i in $(ls); do script $i; done
[06:54] <Gallomimia> devjustforfun: it's a simple limit for users. just a config to prevent fork bombs and stuff
[06:54] <afidegnum> ok
[06:56] <erase_> afidegnum: it will run your script once for each file in the directory
[06:56] <erase_> get it?
[06:57] <afidegnum> I named the script, xplit which I should call  sh ./xplit file.txt     so now. with the for loop, should i do for i in $(mydir); do ./xplit $i; done   in bash? or I need to modify xplit script?
[06:58] <afidegnum> erase_: ?
[06:58] <erase_> afidegnum: for i in $(ls -1 mydir); do ./xplit $i; done
[06:59] <erase_> i'm on windows :S
[06:59] <afidegnum> ok, merci :)
[06:59] <afidegnum> I am also on windows working on a linux server :
[07:03] <shannon> nobody here?
[07:04] <afidegnum> ok, second, I think mv command does not allow to specify the number of files to move at a time
[07:04] <afidegnum> I was doing mv 1000 to newfolder
[07:04] <afidegnum> or what's the correct way?
[07:05] <erase_> no it does not
[07:05] <kurs> lol
[07:06] <rhizmoe> at a time?
[07:06] <kurs_> urs
[07:06] <kurs> hi
[07:06] <the_dark_knight> Hi, when I open index.php through my browser on apache2. a file named download is getting downloaded. It seems that apache2 is not responding to the php files. What should I do? please help
[07:06] <rhizmoe> install mod_php there are instructions everywhere
[07:07] <kurs_> kupa
[07:07] <kurs_> kupa
[07:07] <daggs1-work> hello, I'm using ubuntu 12.04 and for some reason when ever I try to mount a image file, it is always gets mounted a ro, why is that?
[07:07] <rhizmoe> where can i get quake data files?
[07:07] <kurs_> kotala to idiota
[07:07] <somsip> the_dark_knight: or even, just install php5
[07:07] <kurs_> bubula jest fajny
[07:07] <rhizmoe> google "apache php" boom headshot
[07:08] <edek> elo
[07:08] <rhizmoe> fantastic
[07:08] <the_dark_knight> somsip: I already have php5
[07:08] <edek> kotala ty idjoto
[07:08] <somsip> the_dark_knight: how did you install it?
[07:09] <somsip> the_dark_knight: and what version of ubuntu
[07:09] <the_dark_knight> somsip: sudo apt-get
[07:09] <edek> nuda co nie
[07:09] <the_dark_knight> somsip: 5.3
[07:09] <edek> idiota
[07:09] <somsip> the_dark_knight: and what version of *ubuntu*
[07:10] <the_dark_knight> somsip: sorry php 5.3 and ubuntu 10.04
[07:10] <the_dark_knight> somsip: how do i install mod_php manually
[07:10] <somsip> the_dark_knight: are you serving the index.php from the default /var/www directory?
[07:11] <somsip> the_dark_knight: you don't. It should work fine if installed with apt-get
[07:11] <the_dark_knight> I don't have php5.load files in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled
[07:11] <Alexi_> Hello, Is there a way to echo what an Audio player is playing to the Windows equivalent of "What you Hear / Wave-out", when I am in chat program, Paltalk .. Loopback ?
[07:12] <somsip> the_dark_knight: try sudo a2enmod php5, but surely 10.04 should start this automatically
[07:12] <somsip> the_dark_knight: or mod_php5, etc
[07:12] <rhizmoe> Alexi_: you mean like airfoil on mac?
[07:13] <the_dark_knight> somsip: it says ERROR: Module php5 does not exist!
[07:14] <rhizmoe> Alexi_: http://superuser.com/questions/149095/is-there-an-equivalent-to-airfoil-available-for-linux
[07:14] <Alexi_> rhizmoe: I doubt Paltalk would have that, just a simple way to pass audio to wave-out, so i can play music instead of putting microphone next to loudsepakers
[07:14] <food> hello , I want to install the latest kde(4.9) on 12.04 amd64. What source should i add please?
[07:14] <somsip> the_dark_knight: this is a weird way of installing php tp me, but maybe its needed for 10.04 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1546116
[07:14] <Flannel> the_dark_knight, somsip: you need to install libapache2-mod-php5, that will give you the php <-> apache link.
[07:14] <food> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports ?
[07:14] <somsip> Flannel: just found that. Surprised me
[07:15] <kiff> hi all.  My english is poor.  I have a AR9382 pcie in desktop pc.  I would like to build a hotspot in ubuntu 12.10 also it run in 5ghz.
[07:15] <kiff> how to ?
[07:16] <almoxarife> kiff: wireless adhoc?
[07:16] <Alexi_> rhizmoe: thanks for that info, its Almost what is needed.
[07:16] <the_dark_knight> Flannel: yes that did the trick thanks . thanks to you too somsip
[07:16] <kiff> yes
[07:17] <brandon420> Can you disable natualius?
[07:18] <somsip> the_dark_knight: no probs - sorry I went round the houses a bit...
[07:18] <joshmc> Alexi_: I wont be able to help much more (it's late for me) but have you seen this: http://www.kirsle.net/blog/kirsle/redirect-audio-out-to-mic-in--linux-
[07:18] <Alexi_> cheers joshmc
[07:18] <almoxarife> brandon420: yes, install kde and use dolphin, :)
[07:19] <food> Anyone Know please?
[07:19] <brandon420> food, I like you.
[07:19] <Alexi_> Yes!, thats what i need ty
[07:19] <brandon420> What was your question?
[07:19] <Flannel> food: #kubuntu is probably a better place to get that answer.
[07:19] <joshmc> Alexi_: glad to help
[07:19] <brandon420> almoxarife, Is dolphin more lightweight?
[07:19] <the_dark_knight> somsip: no problemo.
[07:20] <food> brandon420, I want to install kde 4.9 on ubuntu 64bit
[07:20] <brandon420> I have taken my boot time from 59 seconds to 22.59 seconds. =)
[07:20] <brandon420> food, one second.
[07:20] <paran0id_penguin> i need a bhagwan for the mental support of ubuntu
[07:20] <food> thanks
[07:20] <brandon420> food, 12.10?
[07:21] <almoxarife> brandon420: for light you need a lightweight desktop, but i don't think dolphin is any lighter than nautilus
[07:21] <food> brandon420, 12.4.1
[07:21] <paran0id_penguin> bhagwan, come help us
[07:22] <almoxarife> brandon420: you do know that a boot should be an experience rarely needed, don't fixate on the little things
[07:22] <food> brandon420, Just want to install minimal kde
[07:22] <brandon420> food, have you tried the software center? kubuntu-desktop
[07:23] <brandon420> almoxarife, i am on a laptop that does alot of traveling, lol.
[07:23] <almoxarife> food: install 'qtrazor'
[07:23] <food> brandon420, That is not old?
[07:23] <food> almoxarife, what is that?
[07:23] <almoxarife> brandon420: run tamdem dm's, a light and comfortable
[07:23] <Alexi_> a new Desktop Environment using qt.
[07:24] <almoxarife> food: it is minimal kde
[07:24] <food> brandon420, There is a guide http://www.noobslab.com/2012/08/install-kde-49-in-ubuntulinux-mint-new.html but i don't know if it applied for 64bit too
[07:25] <food> almoxarife, I heard kde-plasma-desktop is for minimal .... Let me search qtrazor :)
[07:25] <brandon420> food, i would try that.
[07:25] <brandon420> gnome-desktop does not have a 32, 64 bit package.
[07:26] <almoxarife> food: kde plasma is not minimal, it will run minimal if you also have qtrazor installed and login via it
[07:27] <almoxarife> food: search for razor-qt also, same thing
[07:28] <almoxarife> i use kde 4.9 , can you tell? :)
[07:29] <food> what to tell almoxarife ?
[07:30] <paran0id_penguin> no clue
[07:30] <Jeaton> somehow i screwed up my filesystem, now it is unknown under gparted, and it originally was ext4
[07:30] <Jeaton> i cannot boot to it, mount it or anything
[07:30] <paran0id_penguin> force mount
[07:30] <paran0id_penguin> boot up with a cd
[07:31] <Jeaton> how do you force mount it? ive tried booting up with a live cd, but it tells me filesystem is unknown
[07:32] <brandon420> hmmm
[07:33] <brandon420> qtrazor is pretty cool
[07:33] <brandon420> reminds me of windows >.>
[07:35] <almoxarife> Jeaton: i would assume the partion is toast
[07:35] <paran0id_penguin> i don't hear anything on 80m,
[07:35] <almoxarife> Jeaton: you are looking at forensic tools
[07:39] <Jeaton> almoxarife,
[07:39] <Jeaton> sorry, didnt mean to respond with that
[07:41] <hugenumbers> i forget what they are called, but what is a good tool for not letting your windows overlap?
[07:46] <ddsasdsuiq> hello
[07:48] <somsip> hugenumbers: you need a tiling thingy. What WM are you using?
[07:52] <ddsasdsuiq> i use vmware
[07:52] <hugenumbers> somsip i just need one to work with my openbox
[07:52] <Gallomimia> how can i slice off a piece of my vps's filesystem and make some swap?
[07:52] <somsip> hugenumbers: maybe this will help http://urukrama.wordpress.com/openbox-guide/#Tile
[07:53] <Jordan_U> Gallomimia: You can just create a swap file.
[07:53] <Gallomimia> oh that's much easier.. know a guide?
[07:54] <hugenumbers> somsip: Thanks
[07:56] <msx> Gallomimia: boot Ubuntu-live, run gparted, shrink -if needed- a partition that have too much space to the size you plan to give to the swap then make the swap on the new space left.
[07:56] <msx> Gallomimia: you will need to edit /etc/fstab after that to let the system know you have a swap partition it can use.
[07:57] <Gallomimia> this is a vps in a datacenter. there will be no live CD's for me
[07:57] <Jordan_U> Gallomimia: http://digitizor.com/2011/02/06/create-swap-file-ubuntu-linux/
[07:58] <msx> Gallomimia: oops, didn't read the *vps* part, lol!
[08:00] <MrInode0MS> Hi. I need to have only my custom sources.list entries in debian-installer. Does someone know how I can disable the autogeneration of sources.list
[08:00] <Gallomimia> the only reason i feel i need a swap file is cause do-release-upgrade fails with out of memory message. it's a truly tiny vps, and i don't need much ram at all
[08:03] <cristian_c> Hi
[08:04] <Gallomimia> hi.
[08:04] <cristian_c> I've found that I can send commands to my irc client from a configuration file: perform.conf
[08:04] <cristian_c> for example: cmd = /join #ubuntu
[08:04] <cristian_c> If I add this line to a particular server section, the command is executed
[08:04] <Gallomimia> it's handy
[08:05] <Gallomimia> you can use it to auth too
[08:05] <cristian_c> I could launch a script in the same manner: cmd = /exec -o ~/scriptname
[08:05] <cristian_c> I'd like to use this tecnique for use a personal quit message in irc
[08:05] <cristian_c> How can I do to get this?
[08:06] <mz|`>  /quit "message"
[08:06] <somsip> cristian_c: you really need support for your IRC client. This is ubuntu support
[08:06] <Gallomimia> i think the quit message is in another configure
[08:06] <cristian_c> somsip, my client is into the official ubuntu repo
[08:07] <somsip> cristian_c: which client do you use?
[08:07] <cristian_c> Gallomimia, I've checked all the config files :)
[08:07] <cristian_c> somsip, lostirc
[08:07] <cristian_c> Gallomimia, this config file lets me use command and scripts in a server :)
[08:08] <Gallomimia> man lostirc
[08:08] <Gallomimia> type it now ><
[08:08] <amriloi> llll
[08:09] <cristian_c> mz|`, this command quits me from the server. i'd like to use always the same quit message
[08:09] <somsip> cristian_c: join #lostirc to get support from people who use this
[08:09] <cristian_c> somsip, lostirc is an empty channel
[08:11] <Legolas> l
[08:11] <cristian_c> Gallomimia, i've opened the client's man
[08:11] <cristian_c> *I've
[08:11] <cristian_c> Gallomimia, i've read the man
[08:12] <Gallomimia> cristian_c: www.lmgtfy.com?q=lostirc+quit+message
[08:13] <impulze> hey ya, how can i change the terminal opened by the unity startmenu and ctrl+alt+t?
[08:13] <Jordan_U> Gallomimia: Please don't use lmgtfy links, or tell anyone to "google it" in this channel.
[08:13] <Gallomimia> $TERM ?
[08:14] <impulze> Gallomimia: no?
[08:14] <cristian_c> Gallomimia, there is no inherent link in the google page :(
[08:14] <cristian_c> *there are
[08:15] <Gallomimia> alright well i'm at the end of my ideas for you. as was said earlier, this is ubuntu support, not irc client support
[08:16] <cristian_c> Gallomimia, I thought it was an official repo package
[08:17] <cristian_c> :)
[08:17] <Gallomimia> yeah. this is for the operating system, and using it.
[08:17] <helpcrypto> hi
[08:17] <somsip> cristian_c: with common applications, you may well get help in here. With little known applications, you may not. That's why you've been redirected to the support channel for that specfic app
[08:17] <helpcrypto> in ubuntu 12.04 (as debian, AFAIK) they have moved to multiarch (/usr/lib/x86_64...), while 10.04 uses /usr/lib64, and 11.04 uses /usr/lib64->lib
[08:17] <helpcrypto> to sum up: a complete mess for me
[08:18] <helpcrypto> is there a command to get the library directory?
[08:18] <helpcrypto> something that in 12.04 returns /usr/lib/x86_64, while /usr/lib64 in 10.04 and whatever in 11 (talking about ubuntu)
[08:18] <cristian_c> somsip, where is the blacklisted application for the support channel? :)
[08:19] <cristian_c> somsip, I've done that, but it's an empty channel
[08:19] <doomlord> it seems to be letting me create a partitioned usb stick with one partition as bootable now ... couldn't do it before - perhaps this is a 12.10 update
[08:19] <somsip> cristian_c: you ask, and if people are unable to help you, you come back another time. End of conversation
[08:19] <Gallomimia> cristian_c: i browsed the docs a little on their sourceforge page. there may not be a way to set the quit message at all
[08:20] <cristian_c> somsip, I do always this :)
[08:20] <impulze> well gconf-editor was the key, thanks for nothing ;)
[08:20] <helpcrypto> cristian_c: what u looking for?
[08:20] <cristian_c> helpcrypto, I'd like to setup an application to launch commands
[08:20] <helpcrypto> cristian_c: so...?
[08:22] <cristian_c> helpcrypto, I've seen that my irc client (it's into the ubuntu repo) has got a config file (called perform.conf), that lets to launch commands or scripts
[08:22] <cristian_c> helpcrypto, for a particular server :)
[08:22] <helpcrypto> cristian_c: are you talking about launching command from irc client?
[08:23] <cristian_c> helpcrypto, yes
[08:23] <helpcrypto> then, dont ask in #ubuntu
[08:23] <cristian_c> helpcrypto, where?
[08:23] <helpcrypto> you could contact the mantainer, developer or maillist of that package
[08:26] <cristian_c> helpcrypto, there is an old list for developers. I'll contact the maintainer :)
[08:26] <cristian_c> helpcrypto, thanks
[08:28] <helpcrypto> i crashed
[08:28] <techie> whenever i try to enable my 3 screen setup ubuntu defaults to clone mode, i am currently using the latest AMD proprietary drivers from their website
[08:29] <helpcrypto> so. i asked: is there a way to get the /usr/lib directory? (/usr/lib64, /usr/lib/x86_64...)
[08:29] <amp> #handhelds.org
[08:36] <jeaton> is there anyway of changing a filesystem over to ext4 from unknown without formatting?
[08:36] <jeaton> or at least reading the partition as if it is ext4
[08:37] <HulkHogan> nope
[08:40] <fiko> !ciao
[08:40] <Slart> jeaton: if it *is* a valid ext4 file system you should be able to just mount it as an ext4 filesystem, I suppose
[08:41] <Slart> jeaton: or I might be misunderstanding what you want to do
[08:42] <fiko> !ciao
[08:44] <jeaton> Slart - it originally had an ext4 filesystem, something happened when I was upgrading ubuntu
[08:44] <jeaton> now it is unbootable, and under gparted, the filesystem is now unknown
[08:45] <Vitamin-D> My best friend Lines won't give me a hug. What do you think I should do?
[08:45] <Slart> jeaton: oh.. you might want to try some of the recovery tools that are out there.. some can just recover files but I think there might be a couple that can actually try to fix the filesystem.. I don't think any of them are turnkey systems where you can just press a "fix" button but it might be worth a try
[08:46] <almoxarife> jeaton: see a partion that looks familiar in size to yours with another partion number?
[08:46] <Slart> jeaton: before you start messing with the recovery tools I would recommend making a backup (if the files are important to you) or you might end up destroying what's left
[08:46] <Slart> !recovery | jeaton
[08:46] <Vitamin-D> Hey, someone. I need to figure out how to get this girl to give me a hug. Any suggestions?
[08:46] <Slart> bah.. that wasn't the one
[08:47] <Slart> !undelete | jeaton
[08:48] <Vitamin-D> How do I change my GRUB menu background?
[08:48] <raj> hi
[08:48] <jeaton> thanks
[08:48] <BluebirdShao> hi, guys. I wanna check my cpu temperature, but when i used "sensors" command, I got nothing, someone can help me?
[08:55] <L3top> !info lm-sensors
[08:59] <BluebirdShao> after "info lm-sensors", I can just see the top of INFO tree.
[08:59] <meltingwax> does anyone have any suggestions for software to create music videos for youtube? like one image, and a song
[09:00] <L3top> BluebirdShao: the info is for the ubottu factoid that followed. sudo apt-get install lm-sensors
[09:01] <BluebirdShao> L3top: yes, i've installed lm-sensors, and it's the newest version.
[09:01] <L3top> and when you type sensors... you got NO output?
[09:02] <TomyLobo> hi
[09:02] <TomyLobo> how do i check when a package was last updated and from which version to which?
[09:02] <BluebirdShao> L3top: "no sensors found!"
[09:04] <L3top> in that case BluebirdShao you either dont have sensors or linux cannot use em.
[09:04] <almoxarife> BluebirdShao: http://lm-sensors.org/wiki/FAQ/Chapter2 <-- look at the instructions here, see 'run sensors..............' , did you already do that?
[09:04] <L3top> TomyLobo: I am not sure that there is an easy way to gather that info...
[09:04] <_cronus_> TomyLobo, /var/log/apt/history.log has some info
[09:05] <wilee-nilee> BluebirdShao, run sudo sensors-detect and answer yes to all
[09:05] <almoxarife> if it was easy no one would want it, :)
[09:06] <BluebirdShao> L3top: my cpu is intel-core i3, i think maybe i need some modules to drive its sensors
[09:06] <wilee-nilee> BluebirdShao, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[09:06] <BluebirdShao> but i don't what the module it is.
[09:08] <almoxarife> BluebirdShao: the right answer to the script is 'yes' all the way till it closes
[09:09] <BluebirdShao> almoxarife: I have typed "yes" to all. and it tell me to insert "max6650" to /etc/modules.
[09:10] <BluebirdShao> almoxarife: and i can see "max6650" when i typed "lsmod"
[09:11] <almoxarife> BluebirdShao: alright, so what is keeping you? what is your desktop?
[09:11] <L3top> TomyLobo: might look for details in /var/lib/dpkg/status and status.old too... will require some clever grepping
[09:11] <TomyLobo> history.log seems fine, thanks
[09:12] <BluebirdShao> almoxarife: but sorry, use "sensors" also display "no sensors found. Make sure you have loaded all the kernel drivers you need."
[09:12] <DusteD> Trying to install ubuntu server 12.04 from a usb harddisk to a machine with 4x3TiB disks that is setup such that 250 MiB /boot/ exists on first disk, and 3x250 MiB swap on next 3 disks, then finally rest of diskspace on each disk is for sw-raid. Partitioning and creating rootfs seems okay, machine gets ip, can ping around, then simply tells me "configuring packagemanager failed"
[09:12] <almoxarife> BluebirdShao: first things first, have you placed what ever it asked for where it expected it?
[09:16] <simplew> i have installed kubuntu but i would like to have the ubuntu login screen, what i need to do?
[09:16] <BluebirdShao> almoxarife: yes, sensors-detect have do it for me. http://imagebin.org/234009
[09:17] <TomyLobo> hmm the history does explain my issue either...
[09:17] <TomyLobo> i have a lenovo z580 with one of those damn clickpads
[09:17] <almoxarife> BluebirdShao: you have rebooted since?
[09:17] <BluebirdShao> almoxarife: I'm using ubuntu-10.10
[09:18] <TomyLobo> basically the touchpad doubles as a giant left mouse button
[09:18] <almoxarife> BluebirdShao: ok
[09:18] <TomyLobo> (not talking about tapping, that's different)
[09:18] <TomyLobo> and there are no right and middle mouse buttons in hardware
[09:19] <TomyLobo> synaptics is supposed to emulate those by detecting where my finger is when i click that button
[09:19] <TomyLobo> but it doesn't
[09:19] <BluebirdShao> almoxarife: exactlly, i've added it on Oct 28, so...
[09:20] <TomyLobo> the Option to configure that is documented but not present
[09:20] <BluebirdShao> almoxarife: i've reboot many times.
[09:21] <TomyLobo> 'synclient SoftButtonAreas="60 0 85 0 40 60 85 0"' gives me "Unknown parameter SoftButtonAreas"
[09:21] <almoxarife> BluebirdShao: i assume you have the headers for the kernel installed>?
[09:21] <TomyLobo> although the manpage lists it (albeit as "clickpad only")
[09:22] <BluebirdShao> almoxarife: you mean this dir: /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.35-22
[09:23] <almoxarife> BluebirdShao: there are two header packages for the kernel, do you have both?
[09:23] <Kartagis> !xen says to disable network-manager. how am I supposed to obtain an IP via DHCP then?
[09:24] <fincan> hi, I have problem with intel+amd hybrid g570 laptop catalyst install, when I install catalyst from additional drivers, black screen appears after the install both fglrx and fglrx-update. There was no problem with 12.04 and when I installed catalyst beta from amd website. Deskop opens without unity interface. Still I could not find a solution. Any idea?
[09:25] <jeaton> wow, photorec is amazing, pictures were my only concern with the corrupted filesystem, and it is finding everything
[09:25] <llutz> Kartagis: configure your network using /etc/network/interfaces then
[09:25] <vfw> meltingwax: dvd-slideshow  See:  http://dinsdalepiranha.wordpress.com/2007/10/16/how-to-make-a-video-for-youtube-with-linux/
[09:25] <almoxarife> fincan: try this on the black screen, control-alt-f8 then control-alt-f7 , see a login screen?
[09:27] <VlanY> sorry guys, not sure if it's the right place to ask this. I just wanted to know if it is acceptable to have your PC to freeze once every week, or if i should search for hardware issues. I need to make clear that i've assembled this PC following the right procedures; no hight temperatures, hight quality components and so on..
[09:27] <BluebirdShao> almoxarife: yes. one is "linux-headers-2.6.35-22-generic" and another is "linux-headers-2.6.35-22"
[09:27] <fincan> almoxarife: after boot, X crash report appears and give option to backto the old settings. well thats means other virtual desktops are broken too
[09:28] <lapion> where did "additional drivers" go ?
[09:28] <almoxarife> BluebirdShao: no idea then, beyond my meager brain cell now
[09:28] <erase_> guys, on my laptop is it possible to downgrade my CPU speed so that it does not heat up too much?
[09:29] <BluebirdShao> almoxarife: lol
[09:29] <lapion> erase use cpufreq applet in gnome-classic
[09:29] <kushal_kumaran> lapion: it's now a tab in "Software Sources"
[09:29] <erase_> lapion, thx
[09:30] <Archaical> Greetings..... INFIDELS!!!!
[09:30] <erase_> i had to change to windows. my laptop with ubuntu would heat up to the point of autoshutdown
[09:31] <lapion> erase_, get your laptop cleaned (either professionally or not advised :do it yourself)
[09:32] <lhavelund> I'm having some issues with a 12.10 live session; X seems to be constantly attempted to load the noveau driver, fails, and crashes, ad infinitum. I can briefly access the tty and need to somehow kill the responsible service. Halp? :)
[09:32] <erase_> lapion, it's clean. it really a HP problem
[09:33] <lapion> erase_, what model ?
[09:33] <erase_> g62
[09:33] <lapion> pavilion ?
[09:33] <vfw> meltingwax: Where he says "convert <filename> -resize 640x480 <newfilename>"  you can do it like this, (if it's already jpeg and you want to leave it jpeg) 'mogrify -resize 640x480 image.jpg'  Do it his way if you want to change file name and/or format, (for instance if it is xcf and you want to convert to jpg, or if it is gif and you want it to be jpg, etc.)
[09:33] <erase_> lapion, yes. it's like this since i bought it
[09:33] <DoNoBaN> Hi, yesterday I add a mirror to my windows7 partition but it seems that my whole HD has become SFS type and I cant install grub2
[09:33] <frenk> salve
[09:34] <lapion> erase_, did it come in a factory sealed box?
[09:34] <jalansore-> hello can help me how to master in linux command?
[09:35] <DoNoBaN> here is my fdisk -l output, http://pastebin.com/apXZjcq4
[09:35] <lhavelund> Essentially, I'm wondering which service manages X on the live session.
[09:35] <DoNoBaN> /dev/sda1 should be swap and sda2 ext4
[09:35] <MonkeyDust> jalansore-  you want to learn bash commands?
[09:35] <DoNoBaN> anybody knows if there is possible to convert them but let sda3 as SFS?
[09:35] <jalansore-> yes, but in focus.
[09:36] <MonkeyDust> jalansore-  start here, ask later for more advanced https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[09:36] <blackshirt> sfs?
[09:36] <erase_> lapion, yes. windows reduces the cpu speed as needed... but on linux the cpu is always on full speed
[09:36] <frenk> OpenJoke / #magic / Magico|FanTasCienZa|001 http://magic-magico-fantascienza-001.xdcc.it
[09:37] <jalansore-> thx for the sugestion.
[09:38] <vfw> meltingwax: Or if you have the whole batch of images and they are all different sizes, you can do them all at once:  mogrify -resize 640x480 *
[09:38] <frenk_> ciao
[09:39] <frenk_> OpenJoke / #magic / Magico|FanTasCienZa|001 http://magic-magico-fantascienza-001.xdcc.it
[09:39] <DJones> frenk_: Please don't spam
[09:41] <lapion> erase_, http://askubuntu.com/questions/35238/cpu-frequency-scaling-in-unity
[09:42] <lapion> thanks kushal_kumaran
[09:42] <Dinu> help
[09:42] <VlanY> does 12.04 use 3.5 kernel?=
[09:42] <jalansore-> http://kline.dal.net/proxy/proxyinfo.php?dnsbl=tc.m&ip=...
[09:42] <erase_> lapion, THX
[09:42] <lapion> erase_, sometimes the dirt in in there from the factory.. and sometimes they use cheap cooling-paste..
[09:42] <vfw> DoNoBaN: Why do you need to change it?
[09:43] <jalansore-> can help me
[09:43] <jalansore-> what is this???
[09:43] <jalansore-> when i connect to a server
[09:43] <jalansore-> disconnected.
[09:43] <lapion> this is Internet Relay Chat..
[09:43] <vfw> DoNoBaN: So you "mirrored" your HD?
[09:44] <lapion> just ask your actual question and someone will try to help
[09:44] <DoNoBaN> vfw, I only need to fix grub2
[09:44] <vfw> DoNoBaN: From one HD to another?
[09:44] <DoNoBaN> simple I suspect that there isnt another way
[09:44] <the_dark_knight> Hi, how do I restart a process immediately after it get aborted, like restarting it after reboot. I want some of my process to be allways up and running. I am talking about the gearman workers (prcesses) if anybody know gearman. Please help, I have been searching for it for a long time and I have lost hope.
[09:44] <DoNoBaN> I only want to mirror my win7 partition
[09:44] <DoNoBaN> /dev/sda3, but seems that win7 mirrored the whole hd
[09:44] <vfw> DoNoBaN: What exactly are you doing?
[09:44] <jrib> the_dark_knight: are you using upstart to manage it?
[09:45] <vfw> NoOova: Is mirroring like cloning?
[09:45] <Slart> the_dark_knight: can't you run some kind of watchdog? there has to be existing solutions for this in the repos, it's not like it's an uncommon situation
[09:45] <jalansore-> when i try connect a server, i get this message : http://kline.dal.net/proxy/proxyinfo.php?dnsbl=tc.m&ip=.., what is that and how to repair??
[09:45] <vfw> DoNoBaN: What software did you use to "mirror" the HD?
[09:45] <DoNoBaN> vfw, I do all the process from win7. I went to disk manager, and on win7 parttion select add mirror,
[09:46] <DoNoBaN> vfw, win 7 disk manager :/
[09:46] <the_dark_knight> jrib: I don't know upstart. Is it some program?
[09:46] <jrib> the_dark_knight: upstart is ubunut's init daemon
[09:46] <the_dark_knight> Slart: by "watchdog" I think you mean a daemon. But how do I do that?
[09:46] <jrib> ubuntu*
[09:47] <vfw> DoNoBaN: What is the end goal?
[09:47] <jrib> the_dark_knight: how do you start this gearman software?
[09:47] <vfw> DoNoBaN: What exactly are you trying to do?
[09:47] <the_dark_knight> jrib: but it will be only for the reboot condition. what for the fail/abort
[09:47] <vfw> DoNoBaN: Or; What exactly were you trying to do from the start?
[09:47] <Slart> the_dark_knight: afaik watchdog is what you call a system like the one you described.. this thread from stackoverflow might be useful http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9072879/how-to-use-linux-software-watchdog
[09:48] <the_dark_knight> jrib: you have to install gearmand first and start the gearmand daemon like gearmand -d
[09:48] <jrib> the_dark_knight: upstart provides facilities to respawn processes (see "respawn" in the upstart cookbook)
[09:48] <DoNoBaN> vfw, I use win7 for some things with a lot of HD usage. So I want to try some raid for improve read speed
[09:48] <the_dark_knight> Slart: thanks looking into it
[09:48] <jalansore-> what shell command to know hardware specification?
[09:49] <the_dark_knight> jrib: Started reading respawn and upstart hold on.
[09:49] <Slart> jalansore-: lshw
[09:49] <vfw> DoNoBaN: Ask the folks on #windows     /join #windows
[09:50] <Slart> jalansore-: you might want to pipe the output to a file or use use "more" or "most"
[09:50] <DINESH_> hi
[09:50] <DoNoBaN> vfw, ok probably they have more information about SFS and dynamic partitions, lets go
[09:51] <DINESH_> DINESH_
[09:51] <jrib> the_dark_knight: anyway, the other options I know about are daemontools and just using a "while true; do COMMAND; done" loop.  upstart is probably the "nicest" way I know about
[09:51] <ddsasdsuiq> just try words
[09:51] <Slart> the_dark_knight: this one looks promising as well.. good explanation of how it works as well http://blog.eracc.com/2010/05/08/linux-monitor-a-service-with-a-watchdog-script/
[09:52] <riqdiiz> hi
[09:52] <the_dark_knight> jrib: started readin the man page for upstart and it looks goood
[09:52] <HulkHogan> yelo
[09:52] <jrib> the_dark_knight: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/
[09:52] <bios_> hI! how to install the open ati drivers?
[09:52] <the_dark_knight> Slart: thanks
[09:53] <riqdiiz> Can Ubuntu be repaired and avoid a fresh install?
[09:54] <jrib> riqdiiz: depends on what's wrong
[09:56] <BluebirdShao> almoxarife: I've fixed it. lol
[09:56] <BluebirdShao> almoxarife: thanks your patience.
[09:58] <riqdiiz> i accidentally deleted usr  folder and i am worried  that my sys won't boot if i shut it down. how will i replace it?
[09:59] <Slart> !undelete | riqdiiz
[09:59] <jrib> riqdiiz: you should reinstall probably...
[09:59] <Slart> riqdiiz: but without /usr it might be hard to fix the system
[10:00] <riqdiiz> slart the trash was emptied :-(
[10:00] <enav> hello, im running a LAMP server on my 12.04 desktop, i changed the apache execution user and group to my user and group to avoid any ownership problems, but now when i try to upload database files to phpmyadmin it wont let me do it, changed back the original apache and group values and now it let me upload db files again.... so how can i have apache running  under my name and group and be able to upload db files to phpmyadmin... ??? thanks
[10:01] <Slart> riqdiiz: if you check the links ubottu sent you you'll find that it mentions some tools that are a bit more advanced than the trash can =)
[10:01] <llutz> enav: you don't want to run apache as your user, change it back, add yourself to the www-data group to avoid issues
[10:02] <Slart> riqdiiz: but most likely you're looking at a reinstall.. some of the files recovered might be damaged without you knowing about it resulting in some very weird behaviour in the future
[10:02] <riqdiiz> just a minute .....
[10:02] <enav> i know it bring security problems but i raised a firewall, i need this to be like this to be able to edit my web files right away with no problems at all
[10:02] <enav> llutz: ^
[10:02] <llutz> enav: a "firewall" won't help you
[10:03] <enav> hmmm
[10:03] <rocks3> hi does anyone know if catalyst legacy has been updated to work with xorg 13, or if it will ever be updated?
[10:04] <the_dark_knight> jrib: Slart, I think the upstart or init is for the reboots and respawn is to restart after every abort. Also I don't have /etc/inittab what do I need for this?
[10:04] <aiFrantz> enav : just a question, where did you place the web root folder? you just mentioned about "be able to edit my web files right away with no problem".
[10:04] <the_dark_knight> jrib: Slart, respawn looks promising
[10:04] <jrib> the_dark_knight: "respawn" is something you can add to an init job configuration.  I don't know why you are looking for /etc/inittab
[10:05] <jrib> s/init/upstart init
[10:06] <the_dark_knight> jrib: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9072879/how-to-use-linux-software-watchdog this link was given to me by Slart . I was referring to it from the discussion on this links
[10:06] <jrib> the_dark_knight: ubuntu uses upstart, read the upstart docs
[10:07] <Slart> the_dark_knight: I would go with the "official way" ie the stuff jrib told you about.. the watchdog script will take more work and might need customization (as you noticed with inittab)
[10:08] <jrib> the_dark_knight: you can ask the #upstart guys if upstart will respect the "respawn" lines in /etc/inittab but I doubt it
[10:08] <a_> yo
[10:08] <jrib> the_dark_knight: thus why I said you would need to create an upstart job and include "respawn" in it.  See the upstart cookbook for examples of this
[10:09] <Archaical> i would agree with jrib btw, sorry to just jump in there
[10:09] <Archaical> i was just working on something similiar with a teamspeak 3 job i was working on.
[10:09] <the_dark_knight> Slart: yes the watchdog looks more of a customize way
[10:15] <MestreLion> after uploading a source package to my own PPA, how long does it take to show up in launchpad? dput showed no errors, but its been almost an hour and still no sign of the pcakage in my ppa
[10:15] <Archaical> depends i would think on the domain service launchpad uses and how often they refresh their alias's
[10:15] <Archaical> shouldn't be very long though, not more than an hour or two.
[10:16] <Archaical> (that was a bit of an educated guess btw)
[10:16] <Archaical> no personal experience on launchpad.
[10:17] <riqdiiz> ubottu that was great.
[10:19] <Archaical> and so polite too. =D
[10:19] <riqdiiz> what is a bot?
[10:20] <DJones> !bot | riqdiiz
[10:20] <jrib> riqdiiz: program/script/robot/skynet
[10:21] <sidgwick> hello. I got "Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual" after i installed Nvidia's Graphcard driver, and i can't run any OpenGL program. what should i do ?
[10:21] <riqdiiz> ok jrib thanks.
[10:23] <jalansore-> can help me how to login in postgresql first time?
[10:24] <jalansore-> on ubuntu 10.04
[10:25] <sidgwick> hello. I got "Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual" after i installed Nvidia's Graphcard driver, and i can't run any OpenGL program. what should i do ?
[10:26] <Archaical> anyone have any experience and subsequently some tips as to forcing winbind to Capitalize names?
[10:27] <Dan-E> If I put auto hide the tool bar on 12.10 it won't come back out. Any help?
[10:35] <Kartagis> can I create a logical volume on an existing physical disk?
[10:36] <vfw> Is there a way to change filesystem IDs in a non-destructive way?
[10:42] <_cronus_> vfw, do you mean partition's system id? if so it is a non-destructive operation by itself. if you don't mind me asking, why would you want to?
[10:42] <Kartagis> can I create a logical volume on an existing physical disk?
[10:42] <Kartagis> or would that wreck it?
[10:45] <vfw> _cronus_: A friend of mine has used Disk Manager in Win7 to try and mirror his Win7 partition to another drive, but in the process it changed the filesystem IDs.  See:  http://pastebin.com/apXZjcq4
[10:46] <vfw> _cronus_: http://www.mlincek.com/image.axd?picture=image_thumb_2.png   (Image of Disk Manager in the process.)
[10:46] <vfw> _cronus_: And here is report from bootinfoscript    http://pastebin.com/jf9TCxN8
[10:47] <vfw> _cronus_: So he can just use fdisk to change it back. Right?
[10:47] <Gustavus> hello can anyone answer me some question?
[10:48] <newbodhi> Codeweavers Crossover Office 11 is free today, you can get your copy from their website :)
[10:49] <_cronus_> vfw, sure, but try to mount it first. maybe microsoft's mirror is not 1-to-1 copies of the partition.
[10:50] <vfw> _cronus_: he did.  He used a Ubuntu live CD and verfiied that he can mount and read the data.
[10:50] <DaDaDOSPrompt> what is creating these <hostname>.local aliases that seem to work on my 192.168 subnet?
[10:50] <_cronus_> vfw, great. just change the id then.
[10:52] <vfw> DoNoBaN: _cronus_ just confirmed my notion that you only need to use fdisk to change the fileystem IDs back.
[10:52] <vfw> "_cronus_> vfw, do you mean partition's system id? if so it is a non-destructive operation by itself."
[10:53] <DoNoBaN> uhM
[10:53] <vfw> DoNoBaN: You know how to use fdisk?
[10:54] <DoNoBaN> could I do the same with cfdisk?
[10:54] <fincan> hi, I have problem with intel+amd hybrid g570 laptop catalyst install on ubuntu 12.10 64bit, when I install catalyst from additional drivers, black screen appears after the install both fglrx and fglrx-update. There was no problem with 12.04 and when I installed catalyst beta from amd website. Deskop opens without unity interface. Still I could not find a solution. Any idea?
[10:55] <vfw> DoNoBaN: I suppose. (I just always use fdisk)
[10:55] <vfw> DoNoBaN: But I'm sure cfdisk will do.
[10:56] <hume> anyone having suggestions for a software with which I can show streaming video from a camcorder, connected with HDMI, and also record video?
[10:56] <Gustavus> does anyone know how can i find the software i installed from software centre but i can't find it .
[10:56] <vfw> DoNoBaN: Just change sda1 to type 82,  change sda2 to 83,   change sda3 to ntfs
[10:57] <vfw> I could talk you through with fdisk but if you know cfdisk just go on and do it.
[10:58] <DoNoBaN> vfw, I want to try the raid1 improvement
[10:59] <DoNoBaN> Im going to restore windows bootloader and test it
[10:59] <bubu\a> hi guys, can anyone tell me why - smbmount //10.29.39.23/share /mnt/hd2/share -o user=samba,pass=blablabla,gid=ubuntu,uid=ubuntu mounts the drive corrently as ubuntu user on one server and mounts as root on another server....?
[10:59] <vfw> DoNoBaN: NTFS is 86 or 87
[10:59] <DoNoBaN> if I let sda3 as it is, should mirroring still working?
[11:03] <iveir> !pass
[11:04] <DoNoBaN> vfw, Im going to try first to boot with some live CD with LDM support enabled
[11:04] <temp> hello guys, is there a way to restore the boot loader after it has been accidentally formatted?
[11:04] <vfw> DoNoBaN: I think all you need to do is change the partition types back to what they once were.
[11:04] <DoNoBaN> see here vfw http://grub-ldm.sourceforge.net/
[11:04] <vfw> DoNoBaN: You can't boot Windows from sda3 anyway.
[11:05] <vfw> DoNoBaN: You'r only option is to change the filesystem IDs back to what they were.
[11:05] <zAo^> temp, boot a livecd and do a restore of grub (in the boot options I think)
[11:05] <vfw> zAo^: Is that for us?
[11:05] <temp> zAo^: thanks
[11:06] <zAo^> temp, otherwise; choose "boot installed system" and google for "reinstall grub"
[11:06] <vfw> DoNoBaN: How the heck were you ever booting Win7 from sda3 in the first place?  (The answer is you can't.)
[11:07] <glaci> Hello All, I have problems with burning DVDs (ubi 10.04). I have tried k3b, Braseiro and GnomeBaker, in each cases the DVD disk remained empty after the burning. There was not any warning appeared at the burning software. My hardware worked properly in case of Win7+poweriso. Do anyone has any suggestion?
[11:07] <vfw> glaci: What is ubi?
[11:07] <vfw> wubi?
[11:07] <glaci> ubuntu
[11:08] <temp> zAo^: OK; would try that opiton also. Thanks
[11:08] <vfw> glaci: I would guess operator error. (There are only 2 options, hardware or operator, so if the hardware is good it must be you.:)
[11:08] <DoNoBaN> vfw,  thanks for the help
[11:09] <vfw> DoNoBaN: NP
[11:09] <DoNoBaN> Im gonna try to boot windows and test
[11:09] <vfw> glaci: Are you getting errors?
[11:09] <vfw> DoNoBaN: How will you boot windows?
[11:09] <DoNoBaN> if results arent important I will undo the types with fdisk
[11:09] <DoNoBaN> booting with a win cd and doing a repair
[11:09] <glaci> vfW: unfortunately i'm not
[11:09] <vfw> DoNoBaN: Oh, ok
[11:10] <DoNoBaN> I only want to know if the improvement is relevant
[11:10] <vfw> DoNoBaN: Just remember, it was MS Windows that got you into the situation you're in now, so....
[11:10] <DoNoBaN> if it is I will try to do another way like linux and windwos complety separated
[11:10] <DoNoBaN> if not I will undo the mirror
[11:10] <vfw> glaci: Run k3b or one of the others from a terminal and see if you see errors.
[11:10] <DoNoBaN> Im searching performance more than security
[11:11] <DoNoBaN> yes vfw , but sadly I need windows for work :/
[11:11] <glaci> vfw: great idea thank you
[11:11] <vfw> DoNoBaN: Ok, well come back if you have any questions about Ubuntu/Linux
[11:11] <svspl> I have a problem with booting Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS after kernel upgrade
[11:11] <DoNoBaN> hehe, ty very much
[11:11] <DoNoBaN> see you
[11:12] <vfw> svspl: What does it do?
[11:12] <svspl> everything works fine until it says * Starting to configure network device [ OK ] and then it hangs, I waited an hour and nothing
[11:12] <Chotaz`> Hello everyone I'm having some problems with SSH authentication through keys. First I'd like to know if requiring key authentication will make anyone without a key unable to connect. Furthermore, I'm having problems with a Mac connecting to my Ubuntu Desktop Edition shell, I generated a key on the mac machine using "ssh-keygen -t dsa"  and moved it to the shell's "$HOME/.ssh/" directory and then "sudo cat keyfile.pub >> authenticate
[11:12] <vfw> svspl: Have you tried the failsafe mode?
[11:13] <svspl> it works only on 3.2.0-31-generic, doesn't work on 3.2.0-32-generic, 3.2.0-33-generic and 3.2.32 from kernel.org
[11:13] <svspl> yes, same thing on failsafe
[11:13] <vfw> svspl: Then just use the 3.2.0-31-generic kernel
[11:13] <ak5> hi, can i easily install ubuntu server 12.04 lts on usb key using dd?
[11:14] <Chotaz`> to my server I get this : Diogo-Chotass-MacBook-Pro:~ diogochotas$ ssh -pxxxx hostname The authenticity of host '[hostname]:xxxx ([ipaddress]:xxxx)' can't be established. RSA key fingerprint is blahblahblah. Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)? yes Warning: Permanently added 'hostname' to the list of known hosts. Permission denied (publickey).
[11:14] <vfw> ak5: no
[11:15] <anas> hui
[11:15] <anas> hi Allllllll
[11:15] <svspl> vfw, I'm using it right now but doesn't solve my problem, I need to compile my own kernel but nothing except 3.2.0-31 doesn't work
[11:15] <anas> howz u allllllll
[11:16] <vfw> ak5: Are you wanting to transfer the install CD to a USB thumb drive?  You can do it, but not just by dd'ing the image from one to the other.
[11:16] <MonkeyDust> Chotaz`  some 85 people in #openssh, ask there
[11:16] <nopf> Chotaz`: if you *require* keys, you cannot login *without*. what did you expext :)
[11:16] <dapikk> Hi, Using Ubuntu Server 12.10 and problem with ssh -> when trying to /usr/bin/ssh -o TCPKeepAlive=no -o ServerAliveInterval=15 -fN4gL5671:SAPDEV0511:5666 -gL19926:SAPDEV0511:22 saptst - I get in and after a sec I get Write failed:broken pipe (auth is thru pub keys and other side I see only client disconnected - no auth problems...)
[11:17] <Chotaz`> nopf: I created a key on the Mac computer(client) and added it to the server's ~/.ssh/ directory and cat it's content into authenticated_keys file
[11:17] <nopf> Chotaz`: you mean authorized_keys?
[11:17] <Chotaz`> nopf: yes, that.
[11:17] <vfw> ak5:   http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[11:18] <nopf> Chotaz`: did you look into the servers auth.log ?
[11:18] <vfw> svspl: They are all generic kernels?
[11:18] <Chotaz`> nopf: actually, I didn't
[11:19] <Chotaz`> nopf: first time messing with ssh shells, just wanted to make sure I got my security right
[11:20] <vfw> svspl: You might try changing the network preferences, (it hangs there right).  Change to static IP.
[11:21] <svspl> vfw, I'll try that
[11:21] <dapikk> any ideas what I could try?
[11:22] <nopf> Chotaz`: you might want to check the permission also. .ssh <- the dir should be 700, which it often is not if you created it yourself instead of letting keygen do it
[11:23] <vfw> svspl: I suppose also be a problem with networkManager, but would try static IP first, or just dissable networking.
[11:25] <nopf> dapikk: either my client displays rubbish or your paste is strange. what are thow -f and -g? well, whatever, have you tried without all those forwardings and -o option, just a straight ssh saptst?
[11:27] <dapikk> @nopf - hi, same problem when I just SSH to saptst: Last login: Wed Oct 31 02:22:07 2012 from XXX.XXX.XX.xxx saptst:~ # Write failed: Broken pipe
[11:27] <dapikk> nopf - eg I got in and after a sec i got broken pipe
[11:28] <nopf> dapikk: and you don't have access to the server logs?
[11:29] <dapikk> nopf - I have - they just show that client is authenticated , authentication ok, client is disconnected
[11:30] <dapikk> nopf - Im connecting from debian thru ubuntu to redhat machines - if that info helps somehow
[11:30] <almoxarife> dapikk: does it give you time to start 'top' ?
[11:30] <nopf> dapikk: checked the shell in the /etc/passwd? can you connect from any other machine?
[11:30] <Chotaz`> nopf: thanks for the tip mate, I'll check it as soon as I get home
[11:31] <dapikk> almoxarife - no
[11:31] <Chotaz`> nopf: as I can't remember if I created the directory on my own or not
[11:31] <dapikk> nopf - on which machine?
[11:32] <Chotaz`> Chotaz`Work
[11:32] <nopf> dapikk: where a shell should be started when you login :) so the saptst
[11:33] <dapikk> nopf - also that saptst is on another machine - first I create tunnel to my ubuntu and bring port 22 to localmachine:  -gL19940:XXX.XXX.XXX.XX:22 XXX.XXX.XXX.XX
[11:35] <dapikk> nopf - yes I can connect straight from ubuntu - but when I try to create tunnel from localmachine thru ubuntu to saptst then it fails... :S
[11:36] <nopf> dapikk: i don't really get that. shouldn't that be -L 19940:saptst:22? and then ssh localhost -p 19940 ??
[11:37] <lissyx> Hello
[11:37] <lissyx> no one experiencing high cpu usage spike of Xorg process while running gnome-terminal ?
[11:37] <dapikk> nopf - yes that ssh localhost is greated afterwards by nagios monitoring program
[11:38] <benito> hi
[11:38] <dapikk> nopf - but first I need tunnels to other machines aswell
[11:39] <dapikk> nopf - also earlier we had debian running as midway machine and those tunnels worked - as debian crashed and we wanted proper server - we installed ubuntu and after that tunnels do not work :S
[11:40] <bubu\a> hi guys, can anyone tell me why - smbmount //10.29.39.23/share /mnt/hd2/share -o user=samba,pass=blablabla,gid=ubuntu,uid=ubuntu mounts the drive corrently as ubuntu user on one server and mounts as root on another server....?
[11:41] <savio> hi
[11:41] <Oprr> In what folder I can find the PHP installation?
[11:41] <jrib> Oprr: why?
[11:41] <savio> 0prr us whereis cmd
[11:42] <shirish> hi guys i have a question with ubuntu 12.10 boot
[11:42] <shirish> after upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10 my ubuntu boots to tty login first then loads desktop
[11:43] <shirish> that behaviour was not there in 12.04
[11:43] <shirish> is there any way to boot directly to desktop instead tty
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[11:43] <FloodBot1> sexc_thong: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:43] <Oprr> jrib, I have wordpress Installed in my pc, and I want install some plugins and the solution is edit the php.ini file..
[11:44] <savio> shirish, lightdm login manager is not loaded on boot
[11:44] <Oprr> I don't know if this file exist..
[11:44] <savio> Oprr, use whereis php
[11:44] <shirish> @savio -- .. well i'm using unity ..not lightdm
[11:45] <Kartagis> !xen
[11:45] <shirish> can you explain why it was working fine in 12.04
[11:45] <savio> unity uses lightdm for graphical login and gnome use gdm login manager
[11:45] <Oprr> savio, thanks
[11:46] <jrib> Oprr: I suggest you read /usr/share/doc/wordpress* (especially if there is a README.Debian).  There may be a special way to install those things because of the packaging.  However, if you want to find php.ini, just use locate
[11:46] <shirish> but mine boots to tty login and shows the login prompt for few seconds then automatically loads gui
[11:46] <Oprr> jrib, thanks ;)..
[11:47] <shirish> how can i disable tty login prompt step .. this takes few seconds in between
[11:47] <AdvoWork`> i'm trying to improve security, and on my main router i have ssh port forwarded to one of my servers. This is therefore potentially available to the outside world. If i turn it off, i cant ssh into the internal servers, is there any way around this?
[11:49] <Muelli> AdvoWork`: I don't fully understand your point but maybe you're looking for "Port Knocking".
[11:49] <savio> shirish, you get tty login prompt then after few sec you get gui for login
[11:49] <Oprr> jrib, I've forgot the editor by console for edit the file php.ini
[11:50] <shirish> @savio yes
[11:50] <shirish> gui means full desktop - i set it up as auto login
[11:50] <almoxarife> AdvoWork`: actually there is, sort of, tunnel via dns protocol , :)
[11:52] <savio> shirish, then i think it's normal
[11:53] <AdvoWork`> basically, i can ssh in from home to the server that is setup via port forwarding, but anyone that gets the ip of our server can port scan, and see ssh is open, then attempt to ssh in if you get me
[11:53] <savio> !updatedb
[11:54] <Oprr> savio
[11:54] <heroandtn3> !info
[11:54] <iceroot> AdvoWork`: and because of that strong passwords are a good way
[11:54] <shirish> savio, that behaviour was never there in 12.04 .. i believe it's only introduced in 12.10
[11:55] <bubu\a> AdvoWork`, you have a few options, best is to use RSA keys to login via SSH
[11:55] <Oprr> what command can I use for edit some file by console? example: php.ini
[11:55] <bubu\a> that way brute force wont work
[11:55] <almoxarife> AdvoWork`: you can't get around having to open a port to within the home-net at the router
[11:55] <bubu\a> dissalow password auth
[11:55] <iceroot> Oprr: nanno filename
[11:55] <bubu\a> change the default port ssh listens on from 22 to a higher port so it doesnt get scanned so much
[11:55] <savio> shirish, 12.10 is still in development 12.04 it tag LTS
[11:55] <iceroot> Oprr: or vi filename if you know how to use vi
[11:55] <DJones> AdvoWork`: One suggestion is to use a non standard port to ssh instead of port 22
[11:56] <savio> Oprr, use nano
[11:56] <iceroot> savio: 12.10 is not in development anymore
[11:56] <bubu\a> or use something which bans IP's that bruteforce the SSH too many times
[11:56] <iceroot> savio: just security fixes like all other releases
[11:56] <savio> iceroot, sorry but still its not have LTS tag
[11:56] <shirish> but i must say 12.10 boot is way slower than 12.04
[11:56] <iceroot> savio: 12.10 will never be LTS
[11:57] <savio> iceroot, why?
[11:57] <iceroot> savio: 8.04, 10.04, 12.04, 14.04 are lts
[11:57] <almoxarife> 12.10 is lts
[11:57] <iceroot> !lts | savio
[11:57] <iceroot> almoxarife: 12.10 is NOT lts
[11:57] <shirish> 12.04 is lts .. not 12.10
[11:57] <iceroot> almoxarife: and 12.10 will never be lts
[11:58] <savio> iceroot, ohhhhh thanks
[11:59] <noway> Hi. Is it possible to view/change iptables of a system by accessing this system through a live cd / rescue system? The command 'ip route show table ...' only refers to the system ofthe live cd / rescue system, doesn't it?
[11:59] <iceroot> noway: with chroot yes, or by editing the iptables files directly when you have access to the hd
[12:00] <noway> i have access to the hd, but i am not able to find the right files...
[12:00] <savio> i think before trying to install any open source os wait for months after its release So any issues with it can be fixed within that time period
[12:01] <iceroot> savio: if you want a stable system use ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[12:01] <savio> iceroot, i know i'm suggesting it to shirish
[12:01] <iceroot> savio: it has nothing to do with open source and closed source. if you install windows 8 now you will be facing bugs too which will be fixed in the next time
[12:01] <iceroot> savio: then put the name infront of the line :)
[12:02] <Osarius> What does this mean and how can I fix it?
[12:02] <Osarius> yacy@vks12378:~/yacy$ firefox
[12:02] <Osarius> (firefox:4607): GConf-WARNING **: Client failed to connect to the D-BUS daemon:
[12:02] <Osarius> Failed to fork() to call //bin/dbus-launch: Cannot allocate memory
[12:02] <savio> iceroot, get it won't happen next time :)
[12:03] <noway> iceroot: i will try chroot, but can you tell me, where i can find the iptables files?
[12:03] <Noriandir> hi. does any of you knows how to decompress a 230gb dd file from a gz? from the terminal?
[12:03] <ak5> I have a "amd64" version of ubuntu server 12.04 - this works onintel x86_64 architecture too, right?
[12:04] <almoxarife> ak5: right
[12:04] <ak5> almoxarife: thanks
[12:05] <iceroot> noway: sorry dont know which file iptables is using
[12:05] <savio> noway, use locate
[12:06] <llutz> Noriandir: gunzip foo.gz -dc | dd of=/dev/sdXY bs=4k
[12:06] <noway> i already did and i think i viewed every file with iptables in it but maybe i missed something.
[12:07] <noway> savio, i mean with 'iptables' in its filename
[12:07] <iceroot> noway: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/location-of-iptables-config-file-10037/
[12:07] <iceroot> noway: maybe that is usefull
[12:08] <iceroot> noway: dont know if it is still using that files
[12:08] <Noriandir> llutz, that will extract the file to the root of the /dev/sdX partition?
[12:08] <Noriandir> llutz, or will it rewrite the partition?
[12:08] <llutz> Noriandir: that will rewrite the partition
[12:08] <savio> iceroot, for current version man page will be helpful
[12:09] <llutz> Noriandir: if it is an disk-image use of=/dev/sdX
[12:09] <Noriandir> llutz, i just want to decompress the file in order to mount it and recover some specific folder
[12:09] <llutz> Noriandir: gunzip foo.gz    then
[12:09] <Noriandir> llutz, already tried it. got the error: file too large
[12:10] <llutz> Noriandir: make sure to have enough space on the filesystem left
[12:10] <Noriandir> I have 430gb for a 230gb file, so no problem there
[12:10] <llutz> 430 - 230 - size of the .gz file
[12:11] <noway> iceroot, thanks a lot! i guess chroot will be the best way for now
[12:11] <Noriandir> llutz, gz file is 4gb
[12:11] <iceroot> noway: think so too
[12:11] <llutz> Noriandir: what filesystem?
[12:11] <Noriandir> llutz, and the 430 is already the free space reported by nautilus
[12:11] <llutz> Noriandir: on the drive, not the image
[12:12] <iceroot> savio: that info is missing in the manpage or where did you find it?
[12:12] <Noriandir> llutz, good question... its a external drive...
[12:12] <llutz> Noriandir: sounds as vfat with 4gb filesizelimt
[12:12] <llutz> limit
[12:12] <Noriandir> llutz, i was thinking the same thing =/
[12:12] <llutz> Noriandir: no chance then
[12:12] <Haris> I have a PXE setup on CentOS 5.8. Is there a tutorial, article or doc to have ubuntu setup on it for network install ?
[12:12] <lJ6il> Hello, after an installation of Xubuntu, when i connect an USB strick, there's no automount. Moreover, when i mount it with sudo mount, it's mounted in read-only
[12:13] <Haris> I have cobbler, but I believe cobbler doesn't support ubuntu
[12:13] <lJ6il> ntfs-3g and dosfstools are already installed
[12:13] <Noriandir> llutz, yea, fdisk -l says its a fat32 disk =/
[12:15] <Haris> guys ?
[12:21] <ak5> where can I get torrents of ubuntu server versions?
[12:22] <iceroot> !torrents | ak5
[12:24] <ak5> iceroot: thy
[12:24] <ak5> ty
[12:24] <ak5> *
[12:26] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:26] <ak5> iceroot: much better, great fire wall of china keeps  killing my dl after ~30 mb
[12:26] <nikolam> hi, does anyone knows how to make Firestarter work again right on 12.04 LTS 64bit?
[12:31] <Orochikaku> Hi can someone help me out?
[12:31] <ak5> !ask | Orochikaku
[12:32] <nimo> can you just plug in a ssd drive in your laptop and run ubuntu on it?
[12:34] <llutz> nimo: basically yes, just make sure to have your partitions aligned properly
[12:34] <Orochikaku> >I have an external hardrive (500GB)
[12:34] <Orochikaku> >I have a live usb ready to install
[12:34] <Orochikaku> >Don't know what partitions to setup.
[12:34] <Orochikaku> >Google can't help :-(
[12:34] <FloodBot1> Orochikaku: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:35] <nimo> llutz,  no drivers needed for features ?
[12:35] <nikolam> Skype video (webcam in skype) does not work by default on Ubuntu (64bit here) . Skype needs: env LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so skype   in the shortcut
[12:35] <llutz> nimo: no
[12:35] <nikolam> or needs shell script: #!/bin/bash
[12:35] <nikolam> Exec=env LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libv4l/v4l1compat.so /usr/bin/skype  renamed and run from it.
[12:35] <nikolam> for 64-bit
[12:36] <nikolam> and #!/bin/bash
[12:36] <nikolam> LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so /usr/bin/skype   for 32-bit
[12:36] <nikolam> to have working Webcam in Skype
[12:36] <Orochikaku> Erm, so can anyone help me out? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1320638/
[12:37] <Mailman> I updated my graphics drivers yesterday to fix a screen brightness problem, but now my laptop won't wake from sleep. I'm on an Acer Aspire One running Kubuntu.
[12:37] <iceroot> Orochikaku: i dont see a real question
[12:37] <nikolam> Orochikaku, that pastebin should be said here :)
[12:37] <iceroot> Orochikaku: we dont know what you want to do with the system
[12:37] <iceroot> Orochikaku: 500gb for ubuntu only? then use the default from the installer
[12:37] <nikolam> Orochikaku, you want to install ubuntu on that external USB drive?
[12:38] <nikolam> I suggest you make separate Linux and separate NTFS partition for data exchange with other platforms.
[12:38] <ak5> nikolam: only necessary if he wants to dual boot
[12:38] <Orochikaku> iceroot, well when I try install ubuntu it says you don't have a boot drive selected and asks me to setup partitions, bieng this is the first time I have ever mingled out of NFTS its scaring me, online guides tell me I need a SWAP (IDK what that is either).
[12:39] <Orochikaku> NTFS
[12:39] <Orochikaku> *
[12:39] <ak5> Orochikaku: how much memory do you have and is this a laptop?
[12:39] <ak5> Orochikaku: I am assuming you want to install a desktop?
[12:39] <nikolam> Orochikaku, swap is set up by itself during install, Or jou just make separate partition for it and tell setup to use it as swap.
[12:39] <Orochikaku> ak5, no, no a external hardrive.
[12:40] <rk0r> Turn it off and leave it. :)
[12:40] <ak5> Orochikaku: ok, so you want to install an operating system on an external drive?
[12:40] <Orochikaku> yes
[12:40] <ak5> Orochikaku: in this case, no need for a swap partition
[12:40] <nikolam> Orochikaku, I would actually disconnect internal drive during install, just to make sure everything ends up on USB HDD
[12:40] <ak5> if you really need to later on you can use a swapfile
[12:41] <ak5> unless you want to save your state
[12:41] <Orochikaku> you know what I'll bootub into the Live usb and use the trial and we can continue, brb
[12:41] <nikolam> Orochikaku, I suggest against using swapfile, but making swap partition during install
[12:41] <ak5> which really depends on what you want to do :D
[12:41] <nikolam> It is faster
[12:41] <Orochikaku> Ok, I'll reboot into Ubuntu, BRB.
[12:42] <nikolam> Orochikaku, it is not a trial, it is fully commercial and you can legaly use it forewer
[12:42] <llutz> nikolam: speed differences partition/file on USB are marginal
[12:42] <sandiego> hi
[12:42] <llutz> both are slow as hell
[12:42] <dr_willis> i do full installs to external usb all the time. i tend to set them to use a swap partion on an internal hd i setup ages ago
[12:43] <ak5> llutz: there you go. I really don't see the need for swap unless you have less than 4gb memory and/or want to save the state of your desktop (=hibernate)
[12:43] <nikolam> llutz, Not only speed. with partition, that portion of disk is always for that purpose etc.
[12:43] <llutz> nikolam: so is a swapfile
[12:43] <nikolam> Linux needs to have swap. Even few MB
[12:43] <ak5> :P
[12:43] <dr_willis> but i dont move the usb from one pc to another.
[12:43] <ak5> nikolam: this is not true
[12:43] <nikolam> llutz, I suggest against swapfile if possible. Multiple Linux version installs can use same swap partition.
[12:44] <dr_willis> got no swap at  all on this box
[12:44] <whi5key> nikolam I have no swap. :P
[12:44] <meegooo> i connect to my wireless model, but it does't access the internet
[12:44] <sandiego> is that true that its becoming so hard to meet some people from here
[12:44] <gogeta> dr_willis: i go zram heh
[12:44] <meegooo> in windows it's ok
[12:44] <sandiego> some girls
[12:44] <ak5> gogeta: wtf is zram
[12:44] <nikolam> dr_willis, that does not mean you won't get to a situatuon when you wil lneed it.
[12:44] <llutz> nikolam: i suggest against swappartition, files are easier? so what? :) different users, different opinons
[12:44] <meegooo> it's totally weired ?!
[12:44] <gogeta> ak5: uses ram swap and memery compression
[12:45] <ak5> gogeta: sounds cpu intensive
[12:45] <nikolam> System does not use swap space unless needed, anyway, to you loose nothing, but swap space and have a piece of mind for memory hungry apps.
[12:45] <nikolam> llutz, files are LAME :)
[12:45] <gogeta> ak5: nope works awsome on my netbook
[12:45] <gogeta> ak5: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZRam
[12:45] <meegooo> can anybody help
[12:46] <ak5> gogeta: thanks I'll check it ou
[12:46] <nikolam> A said multiple different linux installs can use same Swap partition. It cost less if reused :)
[12:46] <ak5> nikolam: he was askin how to format a drive, do you really think he's going to install multiple linuces?
[12:47] <dr_willis> seen guides on setting up windows and linux to use the same swap area... years ago when hd space was costly
[12:47] <Nambrok> Hi
[12:47] <llutz> nikolam: you are right if swap-partition already exists, but only then
[12:47] <Nambrok> disconnect
[12:47] <nikolam> ak5, it is not the poit, point is that he will end up with more usabel disk partition layout if folowing decent recommendations.
[12:47] <Orochikaku> Ok, I'm back.
[12:47] <Orochikaku> iceroot: is there anyway I could setup screen sharing?
[12:47] <nikolam> llutz, the he makes one, and it exists :)
[12:47] <nikolam> since it is fresh install
[12:48] <llutz> nikolam: pointless on usb
[12:48] <nikolam> Also Files could ged fragmented
[12:48] <ak5> llutz: agreed
[12:48] <sandiego> any hot girl wanna have a talk
[12:48] <llutz> nikolam: have you ever used a swapfile or do you even know how this works/is setup?
[12:48] <nikolam> llutz, pointless or not, I look at that same way as any drive, If it is on USB3, then it is same speed also
[12:49] <Orochikaku> ak5: do you know how to setup a screen share so I can show you what i'm talking about.
[12:49] <nikolam> yes, I used to use swapfile when using Knoppix and booting from DVD :)
[12:49] <gogeta> nikolam: 4b or more its totaly pointless
[12:49] <ak5> Orochikaku: depends where you are
[12:49] <gogeta> gb
[12:49] <Orochikaku> Physically ak5 ?
[12:49] <josy1982> hello?
[12:49] <nikolam> gogeta, Pointless or not, you never know what apps people will use and to what extent use RAM.
[12:49] <ak5> yes and in your install process as well
[12:49] <ak5> or what you are running
[12:50] <ak5> I am in china, so any kind of screen sharing will take forever
[12:50] <nikolam> I had pretty muc apps memoy leaks during my ubuntu history, when Swap saved the day.
[12:50] <gogeta> nikolam: i can be a hardcore gamer and not need it
[12:50] <Orochikaku> 12.10 live usb.
[12:50] <Orochikaku> hmm
[12:50] <Orochikaku> I'm in Malaysia, not too far away.
[12:50] <Orochikaku> I can ping China in in under 20.
[12:50] <ak5> ok
[12:51] <josy1982> hello?
[12:51] <nikolam> gogeta, Hardcore gamers don't use Ubuntu, unless you set up PCI-e Graphics card sharing for VM, using Xen and suported CPU/Mobo :)
[12:51] <sandiego> any girls from Jordan?
[12:51] <ak5> I don't use ubuntu apart from servers, does it have built in vnc or something?
[12:51] <Orochikaku> ak5: so how would I go about setting that up?
[12:51] <ak5> Orochikaku: just pastebin the output of some commands and it'll be faster, I promise
[12:51] <Orochikaku> ak5: fuck it. Screenshots.
[12:51] <Orochikaku> F2 works during install right?
[12:52] <ak5> OrochikaI'm guessing yes
[12:52] <gogeta> nikolam: point is no apps use that mutch ram yet
[12:52] <nikolam> Orochikaku, you can install apps from Synaptic/software center even while runing from Live cd.
[12:52] <ak5> Orochikaku: I'm guessing yes
[12:52] <gogeta> nikolam: my system with 8gb has no use for it
[12:52] <ak5> Orochikaku: may I suggest just using the defaults (make sure you are pointing at the right drive though)
[12:52] <nikolam> gogeta, point is that your case is in minority and newer apps will proove different as always. Point is system needs a bit swap. Check documentation for best practices.
[12:53] <nikolam> ak5, I suggest reading some instllation manuals on help.ubuntu.com
[12:53] <gogeta> nikolam: tel that to my rock solid netbook with 1gb of ram
[12:53] <An_Ony_Moose> I'm using ubuntu with a gnome-shell desktop. When I try to lock the screen, nothing happens and this appears in .xsession-errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1320668/ - Can anyone help?
[12:53] <sandiego> any palestinian girls here?
[12:53] <nikolam> gogeta, notebooks have no souls :)
[12:53] <ak5> nikolam: saying that all installations need swap is dead wrong, sorry. Many of my servers have no use for swap for example
[12:53] <llutz> sandiego: this is technical support, you are wrong here
[12:54] <nikolam> ak5, then their admins are LAME. As previously stated. :)
[12:54] <ak5> swap on usb install seems outrageous to me, but there are use cases for that as well
[12:54] <sandiego> can u guid me plz where to go
[12:54] <zAo^> lol
[12:54] <nikolam> ak5, USB3 is as fast as SATA, why you do not understand it is no difference it is on USB?
[12:54] <sandiego> guide*
[12:54] <gogeta> nikolam: swap was done becouse back in the day ram was expensiv and people used it rather then get more memery
[12:55] <llutz> sandiego: ask in #freenode
[12:55] <ak5> nikolam: it is not about the speed. You just don't need it.
[12:55] <ak5> nikolam: gogeta is right
[12:55] <sandiego> thanks
[12:55] <ankur>  Pressing the windows button in the last version of lubuntu i.e. 12.04 used to bring the lxde menu, but it doesn't happen in 12.10. Any solution? Also my printer (HP Deskjet F2235) is not working. The error log is here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1320634/
[12:55] <nikolam> gogeta, YES. And during my usage ubunut carrier I had multiple situations where memory usage unexpectedly rise to the roof, overlaping to swap, that saved my day.
[12:55] <TimZehta> greetings. i am experiencing a problem with logrotate. i symlinked a log directory for readability (directory is IP, I created hostname symlink). now logrotate creates empty files :(
[12:56] <gogeta> nikolam: get more memery
[12:56] <ak5> gogeta: :)
[12:56] <nikolam> I use linux since 1996, I guess experience counts a bit :)
[12:56] <nikolam> gogeta, get new laptop and put swap on SSD :)
[12:56] <ak5> nikolam: good for you, yet making blanket statements will get you in trouble
[12:57] <gogeta> nikolam: so did i a desktop user has no use for swap maybe in a server hosting tons of apps msql etc that will use a tonof memery it still has its use
[12:57] <nikolam> ak5, and your lack of experience might end up using windows again :)
[12:57] <nikolam> gogeta, ou have wrong perspective.
[12:57] <ak5> nikolam: I don't fear for you, you seem to have a solid opinion based on some erroneous beliefs. I fear for the people that might learn from you
[12:57] <gogeta> nikolam: AND YOURS IS OUTDATED
[12:58] <gogeta> lol ops caps
[12:58] <nikolam> How you open 12GB picture on 4GB RAM machine? Easily. System uses swap WHEN NEEDED.
[12:58] <nikolam> gogeta, I think 4GB is too small actually. You should get 32GB .
[12:58] <nikolam> and play tetris :)
[12:58] <Pumpkin-> doing anything with the image might turn out to be a bit painful, but it will indeed load (if you have enough swap).
[12:59] <nikolam> Pumpkin-, yes :)
[12:59] <ak5> Pumpkin-: that's why I always suggest to use 60% of any harddrive for swap
[12:59] <gogeta> nikolam: load a 12gb pic on a 4gb box and watch i a fail b strggle even with swap
[12:59] <nikolam> ak5, no it is a bad practice.
[12:59] <nikolam> gogeta, it will NOT fail if you have swap :)
[12:59] <nikolam> it wil just last longer.
[12:59] <ak5> nikolam: oh sorry. I thought there was one answer
[13:00] <gogeta> nikolam: once again the desktop user still has no use
[13:00]  * ak5 leaves this conversation
[13:00] <ankur>  Pressing the windows button in the last version of lubuntu i.e. 12.04 used to bring the lxde menu, but it doesn't happen in 12.10. Any solution? Also my printer (HP Deskjet F2235) is not working. The error log is here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1320634/
[13:00] <gogeta> nikolam: i dont think he will be downloading 12gb pics
[13:00] <nikolam> gogeta, then your desktop use is Outdated :P
[13:00] <ak5> !patience | ankur
[13:00] <nikolam> gogeta, why not. they are on torrents, like picture of whole glaxy.,
[13:00] <gogeta> nikolam: avg user is web email videos games
[13:01] <nikolam> Point is that you never know what usage will it be on machine
[13:01] <ak5> gogeta: don't waste your time. long live swap
[13:01] <nikolam> Therefore, default recommendations  should be usage-proof for general desktop uses
[13:01] <gogeta> ak5: lol
[13:01] <nikolam> gogeta, you never know. that's the point
[13:01] <gogeta> yea yea long live outdated tec
[13:02] <nikolam> so you never recommend not using swap per se.
[13:02] <BluesKaj> if you're unsure or need a different primary partition then a swap file work well
[13:02] <nikolam> gogeta, I guess Linux get big using utdated usage cases, like servers on 80+% machines on internet?
[13:02] <BluesKaj> worls well
[13:02] <gogeta> nikolam: for a server or a gfx artest i would
[13:03] <nikolam> gogeta, oh, nice you understand 2 usage cases that are for about 90% of linux use
[13:03] <Orochikaku> OK, I'm back ak5 .
[13:03] <gogeta> nikolam: this rom is the other 10%
[13:03] <gogeta> toom
[13:03] <nikolam> Linux is NOT firstly desktop, that is misconception. it is Firstly great for server use, then latter.
[13:03] <gogeta> lol
[13:03] <ak5> does anyone know what version of ubuntu I plug in to unetbootin for amd64 12.4 lts server edition? live_x64?
[13:03] <nikolam> gogeta, yes, but, dont forget all other 90
[13:04] <cnf> imo, linux isn't all that good at desktop
[13:04] <gogeta> cnf: ubuntu used to be now eh
[13:04] <gogeta> but
[13:04] <ak5> cnf: depends on your hardware :D
[13:04] <nikolam> cnf, yup. It is better theese days. And improving.
[13:04] <cnf> ak5:  no it doesn't
[13:04] <gogeta> nikolam: i bet you call unity good
[13:05] <gogeta> cnf: try bodhi with e17 its awsome
[13:05] <cnf> linux is an awesome server os, and i love working with it
[13:05] <Orochikaku> ak5: are you still helping me? If not, is anyone willing to help a nub?
[13:05] <nikolam> gogeta, nope, I call unity hell :) But I guess people get used to new things. I tested it on 50+ yrs users. It works for them. :P
[13:05] <the_dark_knight> hi, please somebody give me some good links on /etc/inittab and respawn . I want some of my processes to be up and running all the time. I am going crazy, please atlease help me understand how to do this.
[13:05] <cnf> it drives me NUTS as a desktop OS, and it has for the past 14+ years
[13:05] <goat777face> what's your problem Orochikaku?
[13:05] <gogeta> nikolam: nope its hell im using e17 and its inproved so mutch over the years ubuntu should be using it
[13:06] <ak5> cnf: I have 768 GB ram on my desktop :(
[13:06] <gogeta> nikolam: the wm the new users forgot was even alive
[13:06] <nikolam> cnf, me too. But i just Love it. It is there and improving. I went to Xfce from 2007 onwards
[13:06] <cnf> ak5:  so what?
[13:06] <dr_willis> the_dark_knight: learn upstart to make services on ubuntu
[13:06] <ak5> nothing else will handle it
[13:06] <ak5> :(
[13:06] <cnf> gogeta: http://www.bodhilinux.com/quickstart/quickstartEN/e17.html doesn't impress me, at first look
[13:07] <nikolam> ak5, nice.
[13:07] <ak5> Orochikaku: whats your Q?
[13:07] <gogeta> cnf: watch the video
[13:07] <goat777face> Orochikaku: what are you having trouble with?
[13:07] <ak5> nikolam: yeah I just got it last week, check out this babe: http://ark.intel.com/products/56253/Intel-Server-Board-S2600GZ
[13:07] <gogeta> cnf: just 1 of many modes/themes it has
[13:07] <dr_willis> e17 the "we are totally redoing it all again" desktop. ;-)
[13:07] <ak5> I was all like, hey I live in china, I can indulge on hardware cause its cheap
[13:08] <cnf> gogeta: yeah, doesn't impress me much
[13:08] <llutz> dr_willis: more "we are 10yrs too late" desktop
[13:08] <gogeta> cnf: fast as lxde with windows effects and does not have the overhead of compiz
[13:08] <Orochikaku> goat777face: I'll send you an imgur album in a sec
[13:08] <cnf> can't be worse than this unity stuff i'm on though
[13:08] <goat777face> ok, Orochikaku
[13:08] <Orochikaku> goat777face: would you mind pm'ing
[13:09] <goat777face> I would mind tbh
[13:09] <cnf> gogeta: so? there is MUCH more to a WM than pretty effects
[13:09] <the_dark_knight> dr_willis: are upstart and init same? I don't understand. I mean init is for restarting the processes after reboot. but I want my processes to restart even after a failure/ abort. please help.
[13:09] <nikolam> ak5, maybe ECC is obligatory as RAm gets bigger. As well as Btrfs or ZFS for HDD integrity and disk pools get bigger.
[13:09] <dr_willis> 10 years ago e## was huge and heavy... now pcs are 10000* faster.. so its lite. ;-)
[13:09] <gogeta> cnf: yep but it does them wile still fast
[13:09] <gogeta> cnf: it has a no effects mode to
[13:09] <dr_willis> !upstart | the_dark_knight
[13:09] <ak5> nikolam: I am using btrfs, yes
[13:09] <cnf> gogeta: yeah, that doesn't impress me much
[13:10] <josy1982> kolamin kolamin yeah
[13:10] <dr_willis> !inittab
[13:10] <TimZehta> Greetings. I am experiencing a problem with logrotate. I symlinked a log directory for readability (directory is IP, I created hostname symlink). Now logrotate creates empty files. I have not been able to find any bug reports or methods to prevent empty files.
[13:10] <gogeta> cnf: e17 was defult for redhat way back in the day
[13:10] <nikolam> ak5, how do you cope with it's "already in development" and those horror stories form before, you think it is stable now (12.04) I fresh installed on Btrfs, too.
[13:10] <gogeta> cnf: gnome 2 replaced it
[13:10] <dr_willis> i dont think ubuntu has inittab anymore
[13:10] <ak5> dr_willis: do you know much about upstart? I am testing ubuntu server edition to use in a server farm and am used to sysvinit or systemd
[13:10] <cnf> gogeta: so i'm back with "imo, linux isn't all that good at desktop"
[13:11] <ak5> nikolam: this machine runs archlinux, its all pretty stable here
[13:11] <ak5> no issues as of last week :P
[13:11] <dr_willis> ak5 the upstart docs/cookbook page is well done
[13:11] <nikolam> ak5, you use stable kernel I suppose. And rolling repo for apps.
[13:11] <the_dark_knight> ubottu: thanks .looking at the link. I 'll let you know
[13:11] <ak5> nikolam: yeah :D
[13:11] <ak5> nikolam: not everything can be bleeding edge :P
[13:12] <gogeta> cnf: guess i like the no thrills managers
[13:12] <ak5> but I needed to patch my kernel to support this kind of ram
[13:12] <gogeta> cnf: that does not murder my ssem
[13:12] <gogeta> system
[13:12] <nikolam> ak5, I was thinking about arch the other day. Got bored with ubuntu 'release freeze' policy. Meaning I get to get used to broken apps for years.
[13:12] <cnf> gogeta: i don't think you are duplicating what i am saying...
[13:12] <Orochikaku> goat777face: http://imgur.com/a/OxDiS
[13:13] <nikolam> ak5, I think those chit chat should move to -offtopic channel and leave #ubutnu for support
[13:13] <nikolam> :)
[13:13] <ak5> nikolam: I am the opposite right now. I have been using arch only (finally retired my old netbsd servers) for about a year and it is a b*tch to keep uptodate
[13:13] <nikolam> ak5, I see
[13:13] <ak5> k
[13:13] <gogeta> cnf: if unity isnt your bain them what heh
[13:13] <ak5> nikolam: nothing will replace arch on my desktop/laptops though. It is soo good
[13:13] <the_dark_knight> ubottu: I am downloading upstart from http://upstart.ubuntu.com/download.html but is there any package for upstart so that I can sudo apt-get install
[13:14] <gogeta> nikolam: arch lol it is fast
[13:14] <Orochikaku> goat777face: so, what do I do?
[13:14] <cnf> gogeta: nothing... i have yet to find a way for me to like linux as a desktop os
[13:14] <cnf> though unity is particularly bad
[13:14] <nailora1> in matlab you have a "keyboard" command to fall back to interactice input within scripts. this is handy for debugging and prototyping. is there something like this for bash/shell?
[13:14] <cnf> and needs replacing, fast
[13:14] <dr_willis> the_dark_knight: read the upstart cookbook. and docs.. it is the default init system... so it IS installed
[13:14] <gogeta> cnf: replace with e17 lol
[13:14] <goat777face> what are you trying to do, Orochikaku?
[13:14] <cnf> gogeta: no, thank you
[13:15] <nikolam> I guess I require file systems snapshots integrated in update process. Therefore I will like to have snapshot support in ubuntu for updates for btrfs, zfs gogeta , at5
[13:15] <Orochikaku> goat777face: Install Ubuntu on a external hardrive.
[13:15] <gogeta> cnf: yu just saw a vid its the gnome 2 style
[13:15]  * nikolam quiting chitchat on support channel :)
[13:15] <cnf> gogeta: so what?
[13:16] <gogeta> cnf: that was ubuntus golden days gnome 2
[13:16] <drcode> hi all
[13:16] <dr_willis> http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/   the best place to learn upstart
[13:16] <cnf> gogeta: there where no golden days
[13:16] <drcode> is it possible to use mount -o loop to spcific folder in the image?
[13:16] <nailora1> http://vjethava.blogspot.de/2010/11/matlabs-keyboard-command-in-python.html is for python. i am looking for the bash equivalent
[13:16] <Orochikaku> goat777face: are you sure you can't do PM's this channel is really spammy :(
[13:16] <dr_willis> drcode: not that ive seen.
[13:16] <nikolam> dr_willis, is upstart used somewhere outside ubuntu-based distros?
[13:17] <goat777face> only got one window open I can use, sorry Orochikaku
[13:17] <dr_willis> nikolam:  it can be.
[13:17] <drcode> ok
[13:17] <Orochikaku> It's cool goat777face .
[13:17] <llutz> drcode: loop mount the image, then bind-mount the directory you want
[13:17] <drcode> llutz: how do I bind it?
[13:18] <nikolam> dr_willis, but not right now, right. I see many more techology in ubuntu being ubuntu-only, more and more.
[13:18] <Orochikaku> So, are you figuring out what to do, or did you allready tell me, and I missed it? (ping : goat777face )
[13:18] <gogeta> nikolam: that just means .deb binarys lol
[13:18] <dr_willis> Orochikaku: you install to external. same as you do internal. just be sure grub installs to the right sd# decev
[13:19] <Orochikaku> dr_willis: sorry, I have no idea what that means, first time Ubuntu user here...
[13:19] <gogeta> nikolam: but being ubuntu is the biggest distro why not start there before it falls down to the other guys
[13:19] <llutz> drcode: mount --bind /mnt/loop/dir /newmountpoint
[13:19] <goat777face> delete the partition you want to use and allow the installer to do its thing. There's nothing important on it, right?
[13:19] <Orochikaku> No, infact just formated it.
[13:19] <llutz> drcode: or mount -o bind
[13:19] <drcode> o
[13:19] <drcode> ok
[13:19] <drcode> thankyou
[13:19] <nikolam> gogeta, I remembet Ubuntu made biggest distro with Debian heritage. And sending free CD's on Post.
[13:19] <dr_willis> Orochikaku: the guides for installling apply to internal or external... just a few clicks and it doesit all.
[13:20] <Adisman> anybody with spotify that can help me here?
[13:20] <gogeta> nikolam: they did the free cds for a very long time got some laying around hear. they still do it but limit 1 free one per account.
[13:20] <dr_willis> just pay attention to the bootloader install steps.
[13:21] <Orochikaku> goat777face: it still gives me this : http://i.imgur.com/d3Hgd.png
[13:21] <lolo567> Adisman whats the question?
[13:21] <goat777face> new partition table
[13:21] <dr_willis> !shipit
[13:21] <Adisman> i can't install it
[13:21] <gogeta> :(
[13:21] <nikolam> gogeta, yes, that is how I started with 6.06 And I downloaded 6.10 using 56K landline modem :)
[13:21] <Orochikaku> goat777face: walkthrough plz? I have no idea what Ubuntu needs
 any error?
[13:22] <dr_willis> Orochikaku: you need to tell it what partition to use for /  thats the roor partition
[13:22] <Adisman> i tried to add it to sources.list, but i says "can't open file to write to"
[13:22] <dr_willis> root partitiin
[13:22] <gogeta> nikolam: bet your still using it lol
[13:23] <goat777face> new partition table> select the type you want
[13:23] <Orochikaku> dr_willis: what file system?
[13:23] <nikolam> gogeta, nope, But I got used to LTS :)
[13:23] <dr_willis> Orochikaku: ubuntu uses ext4
[13:23] <nikolam> less chance of hear attacks :)
[13:23] <goat777face> ext4
 what version of ubuntu you go?
 i tried to add it to sources.list, but i says "can't open file to write to"
[13:24] <Adisman> i tried to add it to sources.list, but i says "can't open file to write to"
[13:24] <Orochikaku> dr_willis: thats all I need right? If yes, wierd all guides the internet throws at me says get SWAP and Ex4.
[13:24] <nikolam> gogeta, I still heal wounds for regular releases regressions over years.
[13:24] <dr_willis> example partition layout.. (/ root ext4) (swap type of swap)
[13:24] <gogeta> nikolam: heh like amazon ads
[13:25] <dr_willis> Orochikaku: swap is normally used also
[13:25] <goat777face> you probably won't need swap anywya
[13:25] <nikolam> gogeta, I'll got to check them
[13:25] <lolo567> type: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[13:25] <boxerfoxer> would someone be able to help me revert back to an older package of Java?
[13:25] <dr_willis> Orochikaku: 2 partitions. one for /. one for swap. is normally used
[13:26] <gogeta> nikolam: more of ubuntu being nuty then anything heh. dont knoe how they thought ads in unity was going to go well
[13:26] <Orochikaku> dr_willis: how many percent of my drive do you reccomend I allocate?
[13:26] <Orochikaku> for SWAP.
 sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
 xubuntu 11.10
[13:26] <dr_willis> Orochikaku: depends on your needs
[13:27] <goat777face> Orochikaku, what's your RAM?
[13:27] <nikolam> gogeta, since I am on xfce, I can not comment untill I get to see unity and try it. I must just say I instantly removed Ubuntu one on 10.04 , since I see it as privacy concern.
[13:27] <Orochikaku> My home machine has 16 butt the one I'm on right now, has3.9 goat777face .
[13:27] <goat777face> more RAM =less swap
[13:28] <Orochikaku> What is swap anyway?
[13:28] <goat777face> here ya go http://www.centos.org/docs/5/html/5.1/Deployment_Guide/s1-swap-what-is.html
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> Orochikaku: its like pagefile in Windows
[13:28] <goat777face> I've never had to use swap tbh, even on older PC's
[13:29] <goat777face> it just never gets used
[13:29] <nikolam> Orochikaku, it is disk space used when RAM is not enough. It swaps out unuse dparts of memory to disk, so apps in memory get more space. ALo is used as RAm replacement when apps need too much ram. Also swap spac eis used when you hibernate machine to disk.
 how do i save?
[13:30] <JoeyJoeJo> How can I reinstall a package and all its dependencies?
[13:31] <goat777face> sudo apt-get install synaptic
[13:31] <goat777face> search synaptic for the package you want and it will list the dependencies
[13:31] <nikolam> JoeyJoeJo, it is done automatically with packageing managers. apt-get , synaptic, software center, gdebi
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> JoeyJoeJo: you can use apt-rdepends to see deps of a package
[13:32] <ak5> is there really no way to get ssh in a ubuntu-server live install?
 how do i save?
[13:32] <Orochikaku> dr_willis: would swap be Primary or Logical?
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> ak5: you can install the package if you press CTRL+ALT+F1
[13:33] <ak5> ActionParsnip: thanks
[13:33] <Orochikaku> dr_willis: ?
[13:33] <nikolam> ak5, of course, you just install it while booted form live cd, it will install in memory and run from there.
[13:33] <theadmin> Can someone link me to the contribute page? I don't get it anymore when going to the download place
[13:33] <Orochikaku> goat777face: would swap be Priamary or Logical?
[13:33] <ak5> nikolam: maybe I don't have the live version then
[13:34] <ak5> ActionParsnip: the  built-in ash shell does not have apt
[13:34] <ak5> ActionParsnip: or wget/curl for that matter
 ctrl-x and hit y
[13:34] <nikolam> ak5, one can install .deb.package with dpkg -i
[13:34] <vfw> ak5:   http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[13:34] <Orochikaku> Why doesn't anyone answer :(
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> ak5: ah, then you will have to remaster the ISO to add the package
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> Orochikaku: I did earlier....
[13:35] <ak5> vfw: I created this usb with unetbootin
[13:35] <vfw> Orochikaku: It can be either one.
 thx :D
[13:35] <Orochikaku> vfw: what would be better?
[13:35] <nikolam> Orochikaku, put swap at the end of disk, it you are making it.
[13:35] <vfw> ak5: Good, didn't know if you saw it earlier
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> Orochikaku: swap can be either primary or logical, it doesn't matter one bit
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> '
[13:35] <goat777face> doesn't really matter Orochikaku, but I went  for logical
[13:35] <vfw> Orochikaku: Doesn't matter
[13:35] <Orochikaku> nikolam: Ok, will do.
[13:35] <ak5> ActionParsnip: thats balls, I guess I will boot some other livecd distro to make backups then :(
[13:35] <nikolam> I suggest putting first primary ntfs for data exchange, then Linux primary, then swap.
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> Orochikaku: if it was important, the installer would handle it
[13:35] <vfw> nikolam: Why?
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> ak5: why not use the Ubuntu liveCD?
[13:36] <vfw> nikolam: I suggest the swap first,
[13:36] <ak5> ActionParsnip: don't have one on hand. I really just want to try out the server version
[13:36] <nikolam> vfw, I gess becaus windblows always loved to be primary/first in case of dualboot...
[13:36] <nikolam> thats why
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> ak5: the server version is just a pure CLI based ubuntu. It's nothing drastically different
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> nikolam: it doesn't have to be
[13:37] <ak5> ActionParsnip: yeah but I am installing headless :D
[13:37] <vfw> nikolam: Oh yes.  If you ever wanted to do MS Windows install, by all means, leave one there at the first.
[13:37] <ak5> nikolam: newer bootloaders can handle it either way
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> ak5: could use a gentoo CD and install openssh-server :)
[13:37] <Orochikaku> nikolam: OK, so other than swap all I need is a Ext4 /boot right?
[13:37] <nikolam> I know, but windblows needs primary, anyway, so why spoil the fun, when swap can be anywhere, including the end
[13:37] <ak5> ActionParsnip: will do this but with arch
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> nikolam: it doesn't need to be primary at all
[13:37] <vfw> ActionParsnip: For a windows install?
[13:38] <vfw> ActionParsnip: It needs to be the first partition.  Right?
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> vfw: yes, it's just a partition, its irrelevant if its primary or logical, doesn;t matter
[13:38] <nikolam> Orochikaku, or you can choose Btrfs if installing from alternate CD :) Nevermind, just choose ext4, you can update to Btrfs if needed at a later time  :)
[13:38] <vfw> ActionParsnip: Are you still talking about swap?
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> vfw: no, its just that people installing dual boot, install Windows first, so it happens to be a primary partition
[13:38] <goat777face> hope it works out for you Orochikaku, I gotta go do my chores.
[13:39] <ak5> I still don't see why ubuntu server doen't have ssh packaged by default :( that's just messy
[13:39] <nikolam> ActionParsnip, well, depends on windblows release and also I know windblows make 2 partitions now
[13:39] <vfw> ActionParsnip: If it's the first partition, it WILL be a primary partition.
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> vfw: you could boot to Ubuntu liveCD and setup the partitions, then install Windows to a logical partition then install Ubuntu to 2 primary partitions, one for / and one for swap
[13:39] <Orochikaku> nikolam: I am installing from a alternate PENDRIVE, so I should get Btrfs and put it on /boot?
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> vfw: you can make the drive 100% extended partition and use only logical partitions
[13:39] <nikolam> Orochikaku, just make sure you write grub (upade-grub) to right disk (e.g. USB HD, not main disk on SATA in machine)
[13:40] <Orochikaku> nikolam: got it.
[13:40] <nikolam> Orochikaku, just follow defaults. don't worry much for now :)
[13:40] <vfw> ActionParsnip: Oh, ok.  Well, I've just never done that.  I always make the 4th one extended.
[13:41] <Orochikaku> nikolam: Then I install to /boot right? Do I give all my empty space to /boot? Or do I need / for normal files?
[13:41] <vfw> It just seems silly to have only 4 partitions and they're all logical ones.
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> vfw: its doable, but the usual is to have the first partition primary as the Windows installer is a bit basic
[13:41] <nikolam> Orochikaku, for novel user, you just need to choose "/"
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> vfw: with logical partitions, you can  have as many as you desire
[13:41] <vfw> ActionParsnip: yes, that's right.
[13:41] <nikolam> swap making is optional but recommended, ntfs primary is optional, too
[13:42] <Orochikaku> nikolam: would the computer detect it as a boot device though?
[13:42] <AlexNagy> Hey all, I have a problem with 12.04 LTS. I've resized the partition twice (shrinking it down leaving a few GBs free each time) with a GParted boot-stick. the first time all went well, but now it boot. The only difference is I moved the swap to a different primary partition. It won't boot in rescue mood or anything. It just freezes at the loading screen (UBUNTU with the dots underneath). I have 3g of RAM
[13:42] <nikolam> Orochikaku, that depends on saving GRUb boot loader at the end of instalaltion and also on your computer settings from Where to boot first (BIOS)
[13:42] <vfw> But if you dont ever intend to install MS Windows, there's no reason for ntfs partition.
[13:43] <AlexNagy> but now it won't boot*
[13:43] <the_dark_knight> how Do I add job to initctl (from upstart) ? this job is supposed to be up and running all the time.
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> vfw: it'll make life easier too :)
[13:43] <Orochikaku> nikolam: you also mentioned removing the sata first right?
[13:44] <nikolam> AlexAv, that is why you get swap last not to interfere in future.
[13:44] <socket> hello guys, i've got ubuntu server machine, pretty sure apache is not intalled, is there a good way to find out for sure?
[13:44] <nikolam> Orochikaku, as fail-safe.
[13:44] <vfw> AlexNagy: Looks like maybe you've changed the partition number of the  root  filesystem.
[13:44] <MonkeyDust> socket  in your browser, go to 127.0.0.1    what does it say?
[13:44] <llutz> socket: dpkg -l '*apache*'
[13:44] <vfw> AlexNagy: Grub tries but will not boot?  What error do you get?
[13:45] <socket> thanks llutz
[13:45] <nikolam> AlexAv, I guess you would need to boot form LiveCD and change /etc/fstab settings to point to the right UUID/disk partition for your /
[13:45] <AlexNagy> vfw: Ubuntu is the first partition, and always has been. GRUB loads, and I can get to it checking battery state (I'm on a laptop) but it catches there. No error.
[13:45] <AlexNagy> nikolam: ....
[13:45] <vfw> AlexNagy: So you have only one Linux partition?
[13:46] <tubbo> hey guys, if i were to buy a laptop right now for strictly web dev purposes, which one should i get? all i need it to do, really, is run Chrome and a terminal.
[13:46] <vfw> AlexNagy: I think it's a different problem.
[13:46] <llutz> tubbo: wrong channel
[13:46] <tubbo> i would prefer a nice graphical linux distro like ubuntu, since it would be easy to install chrome
[13:46] <AlexNagy> vfw: I have three. 1: Ubuntu ext4; 2: ext2 (formerly swap), 3: ufs, 4: swap (new)
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> tubbo: check system76
[13:47] <tubbo> llutz: heh i guess it's a little too vague...what i really mean is what's the best low-level laptop for ubuntu? or where can i "shop around"
[13:47] <nikolam> tubbo, buy one that surely have all parts supported for Linux. You choose by comapring price and all parts for compatibility.
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> tubbo: omgubuntu has some tips on companies pre-installing ubuntu
[13:47] <llutz> tubbo: wrong channel, this is ubuntu-support not help-me-shopping, ask in hardware
[13:47] <llutz> #hardware
[13:48] <MonkeyDust> tubbo  start here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/Machines/Laptops?action=show&redirect=HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops
[13:48] <vfw> AlexNagy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1794383
[13:49] <vfw> AlexNagy: Did you change fstab entries?
[13:49] <vfw> AlexNagy: What is ufs?
[13:49] <nikolam> vfw, ufs is a file system for freebsd, unices
[13:50] <AlexNagy> vfw: No, I didn't. ufs is the native fs for FreeBSD (which I'm chatting from now)
[13:50] <nikolam> AlexAv, isn't t is ZFS now?
[13:51] <vfw> AlexNagy: So you moved the swap partition from the second to the forth partition?
[13:51] <AlexNagy> nikolam: You really need to check your tab complete. ZFS is an option, but by default it is ufs (I did a default install from boot-stick for 9.0-release)
[13:51] <AlexNagy> vfw: Yes, as I was needing a unified space to act as intermediary betweeun Ubuntu and FreeBSD
[13:52] <nikolam> AlexAv, oh I see, I just thought every freebsd user these days will bi on zfs.
[13:52] <vfw> AlexNagy: And Ubuntu is in the first partition and always has been?  /dev/sda1
[13:52] <AlexNagy> vfw: Yes
[13:52] <AlexNagy> the only thing to change is location of swap
[13:52] <vfw> AlexNagy: Why couldn't it stay there as the third partition?
[13:52] <nikolam> use ZFS as intermediary, since Linux now supports ZFS boot and BE's
[13:53] <ikonia> ubuntu does not support zfs
[13:53] <ikonia> it is not part of the ubuntu kernel
[13:53] <AlexNagy> vfw: Because gparted doesn't handle ufs, though it recognizes it. Otherwise I would have made ext2 third and ufs fourth
[13:53] <nikolam> I think Ubuntu uses UUID to identify partition for some time now.
[13:53] <vfw> AlexNagy: You created the new ext2 partition (/dev/sda2) for what reason?
[13:54] <vfw> AlexNagy: Well, you could have just changed the partition's ID
[13:54] <nikolam> ikonia, you are right. You need to add ZFS from PPA before installing on ZFS
[13:54] <AlexNagy> vfw: To transfer a massive amount of files from ubuntu to FreeBSD and to act as the home of Dropbox on Ubuntu (no FreeBSD support)
[13:54] <ikonia> I would strongly advise against not using ZFS
[13:54] <ikonia> unless you have a specific reason to do so that I've missed
[13:54] <vfw> AlexNagy: You can change partition IDs non-destructively with fdisk
[13:54] <AlexNagy> ikonia: I have no plans to use zfs at this time.
[13:54] <llutz> ikonia: "against using"
[13:54] <nikolam> ikonia, ZFS is grat for petabyte scale. It is more stable then Btrfs, fyi
[13:54] <ikonia> llutz: sorry yes
[13:55] <nikolam> ok AlexAv
[13:55] <ikonia> nikolam: I'm aware of this, I'm not calling ZFS, I use it all the time in the enterprise,
[13:55] <nikolam> sorry, AlexNagy
[13:55] <nikolam> ok, ikonia
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> nikolam: do you have petabyte storage?
[13:55] <AlexNagy> vfw: Thanks, I'll see what I can do. Thanks for the help.
[13:55] <nikolam> ActionParsnip, not . yet. :)
[13:56] <theadmin> Hm... So I'm messing with quickly and when I run "quickly design" Glade segfaults on me, what gives?
[13:56] <vfw> AlexNagy: Ok, well at any rate, see: http://askubuntu.com/questions/205695/12-04-hangs-at-checking-battery-state
[13:56] <AlexNagy> checking
[13:56] <suji> hi
[13:56] <Orochikaku> nikolam: you also mentioned removing the sata first right?.
[13:57] <nikolam> Orochikaku, I suggested it. Not that it is needed.
[13:57] <suji> i am using ubuntu 12.04 on mhy asus u31f notw
[13:57] <nikolam> 9/10 times it is a toothbrush
[13:58] <Orochikaku> nikolam: OK, done just finnished removing the SATA drive.
[13:58] <suji> help usb dvd rw not working in ubuntu 12.04
[13:58] <clarezoe>  Hi, I just upgraded my ubuntu to 12.10 but my virtualbox got problem that the virtual machine won't open any websites but some chat program works. Can any one help? I have Ubuntu 12.10 as host and windows 7 as guest and Network adater set NAT and Intel PRO/100 MT Desktop
[13:58] <nikolam> suji, plug it in :)
[13:59] <suji> yep nikolam i did . it detects but an error on plugin in
[13:59] <singular1> help
[13:59] <nikolam> clarezoe, you installed 12.10 inside virtualbox? Did you upgaded drivers for guest in Vbox? What OS is a host?
[14:00] <nikolam> clarezoe, you installed 12.10 inside virtualbox? Did you upgaded drivers for guest in Vbox? What OS is a host?
[14:00] <gabrielpjordao> Hi, is it a good idea to use template streaming on usual webpages? not larger ones.. May it improve the TTFB?
[14:00] <nikolam> clarezoe, see also #vbox
[14:00] <Orochikaku> nikolam: second pic is the final file format, or whatever you call it... http://imgur.com/a4SCF,n791K
[14:00] <nikolam> suji, what is the error
[14:01] <engomar> hi i am new here :D
[14:01] <clarezoe> nikolam, no, ubuntu 12.10 is the host and I installed windows7 in virtualbox, it worked well before I upgraded it
[14:01] <suji> Could not display "computer:///CD%5CDVD%20Drive.drive".  is not a folder nikolam
[14:01] <Orochikaku> Thats ok right nikolam ? Just pasting it here again http://imgur.com/a4SCF,n791K .
[14:01] <nikolam> clarezoe, upgrade vbox addons, too
[14:02] <nikolam> ok Orochikaku
[14:02] <Orochikaku> K, thanks for all the help nikolam I just hope the machine recognises it.
[14:02] <nikolam> suji, check your /etc/fstab maybe it would be needed to add folder to a /media/drivemountname
[14:02] <clarezoe> nikolam, thanks I will try and come back later
[14:02] <Haris> where can I find a mirror or download link for ubuntu 11.1 ? The main website for Ubuntu .. is .. pretty .. *bloated*
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> Haris: cdimage site has it, it's EOL soon though
[14:03] <Haris> I had to go through multiple clicks to find the link for server version
[14:03] <theadmin> Haris: http://releases.ubuntu.com
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> Haris: http://releases.ubuntu.com/oneiric/
[14:03] <nikolam> Orochikaku, in doubt, check machin BIOS manual for butting form USB drive first. Also I always do everything in third try, so if not woirking, try it again..
[14:03] <erictr1ck> anyone know of a good way to show an unread message count or indicator for pidgin in 12.10? i tried using empathy but it seemed way too buggy.
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> Haris: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=oneiric+ISO    notice the fist link?
[14:03] <Orochikaku> k
[14:03] <ubh> hi all! I installed 12.04 x86 Server in an old PC. No server X is installed. Is there a way to get an X application running via ssh on my laptop without installing X server on the old pc?
[14:04] <nikolam> erictr1ck, mine pidgin tells me if I have mail on acounts used with it.
[14:05] <nikolam> erictr1ck, there is also plugin for thunderbird that adds unread message count to the folder list
[14:05] <theadmin> ubh: Uh... No.
[14:05] <MonkeyDust> ubh  it's got to be there in  order to run it
[14:05] <Orochikaku> When I was doing the Ubuntu servers at work I had such an ass of a time to get the mobo to detect Ubuntu as a OS.
[14:06] <lJ6il> Hi. Could someone tell me how could i apply this patch ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/1069031
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> ubh: if you just install the GUI apps you need, they will install the deps they need. You can use apt-get's --no-deps option (check man page) to install minimal packages
[14:06] <tubbo> llutz: thanks, didn't know there was a #hardware
[14:06] <nikolam> yes ubh , just use ssh -X to machine. Problem is that apps would need libraries, so you got to have them installed, even if X is not installed/active
[14:06] <Orochikaku> Preinstalled on hardrives ofcourse...
[14:06] <nikolam> so depending on app
[14:06] <ubh> nikolam: I'll check, ok
[14:07] <the_dark_knight> please somebody list out some "always up and running " tasks running on my pc? is mysql one of them?
[14:07] <nikolam> it ends up to mostly install everything and just not having X active /gdm disabled.
[14:07] <Orochikaku> Of course...
[14:07] <Orochikaku> It needs to download files.
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> lJ6il: tried this?: https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa?field.series_filter=quantal
[14:07] <Orochikaku> ;-(
[14:08] <nikolam> the_dark_knight, you use top to see active processes
[14:08] <ubh> nikolam: so easy??? Works! :D
[14:08] <ubh> nikolam: fine!
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> ubh: add the boot option:  text     and the GUI won't load at boot
[14:09] <nikolam> :) ubh
[14:09] <lJ6il> ActionParsnip, i don't understand. What is it ? :)
[14:09] <lJ6il> (sorry i'm not english)
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> lJ6il: its a bleeding edge Xorg, may help
[14:10] <the_dark_knight> nikolam: also  http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#precepts-for-creating-a-job-configuration-file here it says to do " $ sudo start myjob
[14:10] <lJ6il> a bleeding edge ?
[14:10] <the_dark_knight> nikolam: but what does the myjob indicate?
[14:11] <nikolam> myjob is service name the_dark_knight
[14:11] <lJ6il> ActionParsnip, oh ok !
[14:11] <lJ6il> thank you :)
[14:11] <nikolam> there is service command, too the_dark_knight
[14:11] <Orochikaku> Oh how nice, 5 days till download complete :(....
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> lJ6il: bleeding edge == compiled within a few days using the very latest source code
[14:12] <alcs> hello
[14:12] <alcs> somebody?
[14:12] <lJ6il> ActionParsnip, is it normal if there's only jaunty packages ? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XorgOnTheEdge
[14:12] <alcs> vand branza
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> lJ6il: the link I gave is the PPA
[14:12] <DJones> !ask | alcs
[14:12] <nikolam> Orochikaku, what is your location/internet speed/selected repo server?
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> lJ6il: read the link....notice how it says Quantal.....
[14:12] <lJ6il> ActionParsnip, ok. thanks
[14:12] <llutz> nikolam: "service" is sysVinit, use initctrl for upstart
[14:13] <Haris> does this ( http://releases.ubuntu.com/oneiric/ubuntu-11.10-server-amd64.iso ) work on Xeons ?
[14:13] <Haris> its a stupid Q, I know. Just confirming
[14:13] <llutz> theadmin: "myjob" refers to the job you want control. replae with your real job/scriptname
[14:13] <Haris> before I go through 2-3 hrs of work for nothing
[14:13] <nikolam> llutz, I guess i got too used to solaris svcs
[14:13] <theadmin> llutz: tab fail
[14:14] <Orochikaku> nikolam: down speed is 20mbps, location Malaysia, selected repo server there was no opt to choose one...
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> Haris: yes, it'll work on any modern 64bit CPU
[14:14] <Haris> ActionParsnip: I now know its near EOL. The guy perhaps has had a functioning system on 11.1 before. So he wants the same now
[14:14] <ix_> I
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> Haris: as long as you are both aware
[14:14] <llutz> theadmin: sry
[14:14] <ix_> I'm having trouble with my microphone on a intel d510mo motherboard, intel atom
[14:15] <nikolam> Orochikaku, if booting from live CD, you can install without internet. I would do like that :) After install upgrade.
[14:15] <ix_> it only registers loud noises
[14:15] <Haris> Is 11.2 available ?
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> Haris: there is no 11.2
[14:15] <Orochikaku> nikolam: meh rather do a 1 shot :P
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> Haris: the next release after 11.10 is 12.04
[14:15] <Haris> got it
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> Haris: the numbers are the year and month released. This isn't Mac OS
[14:16] <nikolam> .04 .10 .04 .10
[14:16] <Haris> that's ok
[14:16] <Haris> just confirming
[14:16] <nikolam> and every 10 years. .06 :)
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> nikolam: really?
[14:17] <nikolam> ActionParsnip, :D
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> hahaha
[14:17] <Orochikaku> Oh fuck, just realized i'm installing 32bit... This processor (3770K) is 64bit compatible... HERPA DI DERP.
[14:17] <hilacha> #slackware
[14:17] <IdleOne> !language | Orochikaku
[14:18] <vfw> Orochikaku: 32bit is ok
[14:18] <vfw> Orochikaku: That's not a problem
[14:18] <nikolam> Orochikaku, it will install fine. Don't sweat :) Just 64-bit is better suited for 64-bit cpu
[14:18] <iceroot> Orochikaku: still installing? then use amd64 instead if you have more then 1gb ram
[14:18] <nikolam> go get 64bit, anyway, that's the future.
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> Orochikaku: you can run 32bit OS on 64bit CPU
[14:19] <Orochikaku> Cancel the install?
[14:19] <vfw> Orochikaku: Only if you want to.
[14:19] <iceroot> Orochikaku: i would suggest to install amd64 if your cpu is able to do it and not install i386
[14:19] <nikolam> Orochikaku, jou can do install it just for fun, while downloading 64-bit .iso :)
[14:20] <Orochikaku> nikolam: can you just upgrade?
[14:20] <cnf> hmz, damned gnome inconsistencies are driving me nuts
[14:20] <vfw> Orochikaku: As far as performance, no difference.
[14:20] <Orochikaku> nikolam: or will I have to do a whole re-install?
[14:20] <nikolam> i would suggest 64bit too
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> Orochikaku: you'd need to reinstall. What is the system used for and how much RAM do you have?
[14:20] <vfw> Orochikaku: No you can't just upgrade, you have to install one or the other.
[14:20] <iceroot> Orochikaku: you cant upgrade, you have to reinstall to switch to amd64, because of that its always a good idea to use amd64 directly if the cpu is able to do it
[14:21] <nikolam> I don't think so. Unless you use Btrfs Volumes to install 2 versions side-by-side on same partition.. and that sound complicating, right? :P
[14:21] <vfw> Orochikaku: How much RAM do you have?
[14:21] <Orochikaku> vfw: on this system 3.9 on my personal 16.
[14:21] <iceroot> Orochikaku: then you MUST install amd64 to use all the ram
[14:21] <nikolam> use 64bit.
[14:21] <vfw> Orochikaku: Just go on with the 32bit install. (That's what I would do.)
[14:22] <iceroot> vfw: why?
[14:22] <vfw> iceroot: Why not?
[14:22] <iceroot> vfw: 3.9gb ram
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> Orochikaku: 32bit should be ok with 4Gb RAM
[14:22] <nikolam> iceroot, just for fun? :)
[14:22] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: no
[14:22] <vfw> iceroot: no what?
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> Orochikaku: what is the system going to be used for?
[14:22] <Orochikaku> iceroot: REALLY?! Linux does that bullshit too? Where it stops using ram when your using 32bit
[14:22] <Orochikaku> ActionParsnip: as a portable OS.
[14:22] <iceroot> Orochikaku: that has nothing to do with linux
[14:22] <nikolam> Orochikaku, I think you worry too much. Just test it yourself and learn in the process :)
[14:22] <bazhang> Orochikaku, no cursing here
[14:23] <iceroot> Orochikaku: it has to do with math
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: sure, maximum RAM for each process is 3.2Gb and the system has barely over that so it will never be reached
[14:23] <vfw> iceroot: The 32bit system will utilize the 4G of RAM just fine.  No problem.
[14:23] <Orochikaku> bazhang: will where I'm from bullshit isn't cursing
[14:23] <vfw> iceroot: What math?
[14:23] <bazhang> Orochikaku, it is here. so stop it
[14:23] <iceroot> vfw: 4gb ram = ram + vga + pci adrressbus
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: plus the PAE will allow up to 64Gb RAM
[14:23] <iceroot> vfw: so you dont see 4gb ram
[14:23] <iceroot> vfw: maybe 3.2gb depending on the system
[14:23] <vfw> iceroot: Yea you do.
[14:23] <iceroot> vfw: so why suggesting i386 then
[14:24] <nikolam> Orochikaku, well, linux generally had that problem solved eons ago. and it Will work using all ram, just Apps wont do. That is hardware barrier, not software.
[14:24] <vfw> iceroot: It doesn't matter.
[14:24] <iceroot> vfw: of course it matters, please dont suggest something like that here
[14:24] <Orochikaku> Ahh, ok nikolam never looked into the cause.
[14:24] <nikolam> iceroot, guy got cd already installing. nothing else.
[14:24] <Orochikaku> Pendrive*
[14:25] <iceroot> nikolam: reinstall
[14:25] <Orochikaku> Is there anyway I can stop the install now?
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> Orochikaku: i suggest the 32bit, the 64bit will give a cleaner upgrade path plus it's installing. Unless you start doing CPU intensive tasks you won't notice much in 64bit, although you aren't using the full capabilities of your CPU
[14:25] <iceroot> Orochikaku: if you are not in the part"resizing/formating the hdd" you can just restart the system
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> Orochikaku: if you want to stop it, just open a terminal and run:  sudo shutdown -h now
[14:26] <gabrielpjordao> Hi, is there a way to stream contents with nginx (gzip enabled) ? may it improve TTFB ?
[14:26] <Orochikaku> Wait hold it, I actually want 32 bit. What if I go to a location that does not have a 64bit capable processor...
[14:26] <iceroot> Orochikaku: ah you are installing on a usb drive
[14:26] <iceroot> Orochikaku: and want to start it on different systems
[14:26] <nikolam> iceroot, that sight.
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> Orochikaku: then I'd go 32bit :)
[14:27] <vfw> iceroot: With the 64bit kernel, he could use more processor features in certain (rare) circumstances.  That's all.
[14:27] <nikolam> iceroot, that's right.
[14:27] <iceroot> vfw: he could address all the ram
[14:27] <iceroot> Orochikaku: then use i386 if you want to use it on 32bit systems too
[14:27] <nikolam> Orochikaku, you know all you have to know. At the end you will need to end up on 64bit.
[14:27] <Orochikaku> iceroot:  got it.
[14:27] <Orochikaku> nikolam: actually I'll stay on 32bit.
[14:28] <nikolam> Orochikaku, how ever you want.
[14:28] <nikolam> just being 32bit with 16GB is stupid :)
[14:28] <llutz> he will experience other problems than 32/64bit when using an usb-install on different machines (graphics, sound)
[14:28] <Orochikaku> nikolam: I'll just boot into Windows for RAM intensive operations.
[14:28] <excalibr> hey anyone tried the crossover app that is given for free today? i wonder how it stacks up to the official wine
[14:28] <Orochikaku> llutz: just 2.
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> nikolam: you can access up to 64Gb with PAE
[14:29] <Orochikaku> llutz: I cannot stand admin restrictions at my collage...
[14:29] <iceroot> llutz: isnt that handled by udev dynamicly today? so even when installing nvidia drivers it should not fail on intel/amd plattforms because udev will not load it?
[14:29] <nikolam> Orochikaku, or you can learn about Btrfs functions and install 64-bit on same disk as 320bit install :)
[14:29] <Orochikaku> nikolam:  just make another partition and install it there?
[14:29] <MonkeyDust> !btrfs
[14:30] <nikolam> Orochikaku, no, learn about Btrfs. He can make subvolumes on same Btrfs partition
[14:30] <Orochikaku> > should not be used for important data
[14:30] <llutz> iceroot: in theory... maybe. practical spoken: i doubt it all would work without issues
[14:30] <iceroot> llutz: :)
[14:31] <nikolam> once big palers (suse, oracle) have Btrfs by default, I guess it will be fine to say it is mainstream.
[14:31] <llutz> Orochikaku: you don't have admin rights but they allow you to boot from USB? odd
[14:31] <Orochikaku> Hmm, I wonder if I just shrunk my / if I could install multible installs and there would be no GPU driver conflicts anywhere.
[14:32] <ix_> what is it with linux and microphones?
[14:32] <Orochikaku> llutz: they can't block access to the BIOS.
[14:32] <Mister2> hey, is there a windows xp theme for gnome 3? I want to run ubuntu 12.10 in gnome classic and then skin it so it looks like windows. I'm doing some volunteer work for a nonprofit who has some issues with people downloading executables and porn and viruses and shit... Anybody know if phrankdachicken's script still works for 12.10?
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> llutz: some admins fail to lock down the BIOS :)
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> Orochikaku: they can
[14:32] <qwd> I'm trying to play videos from the dvd to Molecular Cell Biology of the Cell 5th edition. Some of them work in Totem but most don't. VLC doesn't work either. I have restricted gstreamer-stuff installed. The files are .mov
[14:32] <llutz> Orochikaku: why not? its the first thin we do here
[14:32] <qwd> Here's the output when trying to play the video file. http://pastebin.com/M6tF1qg3
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> Orochikaku: they just havent :)
[14:32] <Orochikaku> Thats just stupid to lock a BIOS
[14:32] <Orochikaku> anyway brb
[14:32] <bazhang> Mister2, no cursing here please
[14:33] <Mister2> bazhang duly noted
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> qwd: install w32codecs from medibuntu (I assume 32bit OS)
[14:33] <theadmin> Repeating: I'm trying to use Quickly on Precise, yet when I run "quickly design" in a newly-created project, Glade segfaults.
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: are there bugs reported?
[14:34] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: I'm not too sure whether that's a problem on my side or a bug... I can post the output if that helps...
[14:34] <ix_> arecord test.wav
[14:34] <nikolam> qwd, you need quicktime player for linux
[14:34] <qwd> nikolam: so w64codecs won't work?
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: I would, the devs may have a fix /patch etc
[14:35] <u1204> hello, can anybody tell me, in what stage is Ubuntu Android smartphone project - is it ready and I can buy it or is it still in development?
[14:35] <Mister2> So, no one online knows of a WINDOWS XP theme for GNOME 3?
[14:35] <theadmin> u1204: Just a concept so far iirc
[14:35] <u1204> just a concpt .. still?
[14:36] <Mister2> theadmin there's a whole page for it on ubuntu.com... iirc there was a download link at the bottom u1204
[14:36] <theadmin> u1204: Hardware developers need to partner with Canonical for the thing to work
[14:36] <u1204> I think it is a very good idea and has a great potential, they should put more effort into it
[14:36] <Mister2> theadmin aaah, it looked like it had finished
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> u1204: there is a how to on getting Ubuntu on a Nexus7, that is the aim of Raring.
[14:37] <khussein78> I am using CRM application build on java JDK, I have problem with text fields when i select a filed text disappeared, developers said it is something related to ubuntu theme or colors
[14:37] <u1204> on a Nexus!? .. interesting, thanks
[14:37] <qwd> nikolam: ActionParsnip: Yeah, no luck with w64codecs.
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> u1204: check omgubuntu
[14:37] <khussein78> is there an application build on JDK can I tested on ubuntu ?
[14:37] <u1204> ok
[14:37] <MonkeyDust> u1204  14.04 will go even further
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> Mister2: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1977533
[14:38] <nikolam> qwd, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[14:40] <Mister2> ActionParsnip TO THE RESCUE! :D Somehow, you're almost always solving my problems....
[14:40] <nikolam> Mister2, send him some cookies over Bitcoin :)
[14:41] <Mister2> nikolam If i were more than a poor tech nomad, i would...
[14:42] <nikolam> Mister2, Khan was nomad, too :)
[14:42] <lapion> ever since I upgraded to quantal I am having problems with bluetooth when returning from suspend
[14:43] <lapion> however if I relogin bluetooth works fine
[14:43] <Mister2> nikolam, I'm not sure what Khan you're talking about
[14:43] <qwd> nikolam: Installed ubuntu-restricted-extras and w64codecs but still no luck
[14:43] <trigrou_> vote for us - sketchfab http://pioneersfestival.com/startupvoting/
[14:43] <nikolam> lapion, seems like a target for ubuntu-bug  bug reporting :)
[14:43] <bazhang> trigrou_, dont paste that here
[14:43] <trigrou_> why
[14:43] <trigrou_> I work on ubuntu
[14:44] <bazhang> trigrou_, its not ubuntu support.
[14:44] <nikolam> Mister2, Genghis Khan
[14:45] <Mister2> nikolam, But i'm a nice guy, not a ravaging nomad.
[14:45] <nikolam> qwd, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu#Playing_Non-Native_Media_Formats ?
[14:47] <qwd> nikolam: am I missing something? from what i can see it's telling me to install mplayer, vlc, w64codecs. I already have those.
[14:47] <vp18> i can't install updates from the repository it always says check internet connection on its ok
[14:47] <vp18> help\
[14:48] <vp18> never mind
[14:48] <nikolam> vp18, try changing repository. got o synaptic, choose settings>repositories> Download from
[14:49] <nikolam> and do search best serve ri n others
[14:49] <cdavis> What is the method to create a wireless SP in 12.10?
[14:49] <cdavis> oops, wireless AP
[14:50] <nikolam> cdavis, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessAccessPoint
[14:51] <foxy999> if i log into a oracle virtual box with "remote display" enabled, will it log into the current session of my windows xp machine?
[14:51] <An_Ony_Moose> is there a midi synth that can output to a PC speaker?
[14:52] <nikolam> foxy999, #vbox
[14:52] <foxy999> nikolam, thank you
[14:53] <ISOcrates> just installed 12.10 on my desktop and dash is super slow... do i need to install different graphics drivers, or is this just how it is?
[14:53] <ISOcrates> motherboard is M2N68-AM SE2
[14:53] <ISOcrates> ASUS
[14:54] <theadmin> ISOcrates: It normally isn't slow and the motherboard doesn't matter at all... I would suggest using the propertiary video drivers or 2D mode
[14:55] <nikolam> An_Ony_Moose, Question you need to output midi ro wave first. There is software solution for it, but after that, putting wave to speaker have no much sense. Desktops usually have real speakers attached to sound cards, not playing audio on biipper.
[14:55] <nikolam> ISOcrates, try using xfce
[14:56] <dr_willis> ISOcrates: what video chipset?
[14:56] <ISOcrates> theadmin: ok, just mentioned the mobo because of the integrated graphics, think it's nvidia
[14:56] <ISOcrates> nikolam: yeah i may have to, thanks
[14:56] <nikolam> (xubuntu-desktop)
[14:56] <theadmin> ISOcrates: Open the "Additional Drivers" tool and see if it finds a video driver.
[14:56] <An_Ony_Moose> niko: WOuld I have to write my own solution then?
[14:56] <BluesKaj> An_Ony_Moose, type midi into your package manager , there are some choices/packages there
[14:56] <ISOcrates> theadmin: that's what i was looking for, thanks. trying it now
[14:57] <An_Ony_Moose> BluesKaj: thing is I'm interested in outputting to a PC speaker
[14:57] <nikolam> An_Ony_Moose, there is timidity for MIDI
[14:58] <b00b00> hi
[14:58] <nikolam> An_Ony_Moose, I am pretty sure there must be some wave to speaker piece of code already
[14:58] <nikolam> Just speaker is just too bad for any sound
[14:58] <b00b00> i have running dd command that takes too long, any command i can see the status of dd?
[14:58] <dr_willis> !info beep
[14:59] <llutz> b00b00: in a 2nd terminal: killall -USR1 dd
[14:59] <BluesKaj> An_Ony_Moose, one would think that's a given , but the codec has to be playable
[14:59] <llutz> b00b00: should force dd to give a status
[14:59] <dr_willis> b00b00: what are you dding exactly?
[14:59] <ray76> hi, i have just had 3 capacitors spit there guts out on a nividia 6200 video card, replaced it with a nividia 400mx for now, but my xubuntu drops me in a command prompt no gui. any body help me on how to restart X?
[14:59] <b00b00> 100gb of disk from 1 linux to another
[15:00] <giraffe> where can i get emerald compiled version for 64 bit version?
[15:00] <dr_willis> !emerald
[15:00] <nikolam> b00b00, what File systems
[15:00] <dr_willis> b00b00: you did give dd a bs= option?
[15:01] <giraffe> can you please tell me something about alternatives for emerald?
[15:01] <bubu\a> anyone know if I use logrotate to run a weekly log rotate (which uses cron) will it run that at the end of every week i.e. sunday or a week from when I set it?
[15:01] <b00b00> nikolam: its a win disk ntfs, its one of the only ways to copy win ami on amazon between regions
[15:01] <dr_willis> factoid says no real alternatives...
[15:01] <b00b00> dr_willis: no, didnt
[15:01] <giraffe> oh, sorry.
[15:02] <An_Ony_Moose> nikolam, there is, in the snd-pcsp kernel module if I understand correctly but I'd ratther have the midi synth beep directly rather than wasting CPU on converting.it twice
[15:02] <dr_willis> compiz only has like 3 decorators. the kde one. the gtk one. and emerald.
[15:02] <nikolam> b00b00, I would love to have iSCSI locally (even on ntfs) and use ZFS send to replicate it.
[15:03] <nikolam> An_Ony_Moose, ok.
[15:04] <nikolam> b00b00, I was thinking ntfs inside iscsi on zfs volume.
[15:04] <b00b00> nikolam: you dont know what you have on Amazon ec2, and cp between regions, takes too long
[15:05] <rimas> Does anyone know erp5 channel?
[15:05] <nikolam> b00b00, I would avoid windows on cloud. And stick to ZFS.
[15:05] <b00b00> nikolam: you not always can
[15:06] <rimas> erp5?
[15:06] <nikolam> b00b00, If I put windblows on KVM inside smartos with zfs, yes then.
[15:06] <DJones> !alis | rimas You could ask in #freenode, or ask the bot,
[15:07] <nikolam> but hten one could also use Joyent. b00b00
[15:07] <rimas> thanks
[15:07] <nikolam> it is #ubuntu user support , anyway.
[15:08] <rimas> has anyone tried to use erp5 on ubuntu?
[15:09] <bkc_> !question | rimas
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> rimas: may help https://code.google.com/p/deb4erp5/wiki/HowToRunERP5OnDebian
[15:10] <fairuz> I have a weird issue. Downloaded the kernel source code using apt-get source $(uname -r). Copy the config from /boot and use it to compile the kernel. But then, it asks me questions (as like the config is not complete). Do I need to use other config file? I thought I can directly use the config file with the matching kernel source
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> !kernel
[15:10] <k_n> !Patience
[15:10] <buddha_> klkjl
[15:11] <k_n> !patience
[15:11] <subone_> How do I add a key binding that will be an alias for another key binding? I want to bind ctrl+alt+shift+mousebutton4 to Compiz's Desktop Wall's "Move left with window".
[15:11] <BluesKaj> rimas, open your package manager and type , openerp
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> !info openerp
[15:12] <ray76> and just to say i have done "sudo startx" the bl@@dy thing hangs at *Checking battery state...  [ok]  ..  is startx the correct way?
[15:12] <ActionParsnip> there is openerp6.1-full
[15:12] <ActionParsnip> ray76: startx runs as user, not root
[15:12] <rimas> .DEB package exist for 10.04
[15:12] <ActionParsnip> ray76: why are you using sudo?
[15:12] <dr_willis> you dont want to use sudo to startx
[15:13] <BluesKaj> !openerp-desktop | rimas
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> !info openerp-desktop
[15:13] <dr_willis> ray76:  just startx should should work
[15:13] <BluesKaj> !info openerp-desktop | rimas
[15:13] <ray76> ActionParsnip: trouble with reading so many websites all sightly different.
[15:13] <rimas> I know openerp
[15:13] <Debolaz> Hmm, empathy doesnt show a bubble counter in the launcher in 12.10, is that normal? It makes it exceedingly difficult to see new messages if they arrive when Im not looking at the screen.
[15:14] <rimas> just erp5 has complete solution I need
[15:14] <BluesKaj> rimas, it obviously will run on ubuntu , that's what you were asking
[15:14] <rimas> I have some troubles with it
[15:15] <rimas> first I need to install salpos
[15:16] <rimas> slapOS
[15:16] <llutz> !details | rimas
[15:17] <ray76> ActionParsnip: cheers, at least it hangs in a different place last line is > saned disabled; /ect/default/saned. any ideas?
[15:17] <ray76> dr_willis: cheers
[15:17] <simplepro> hey HEY how do i open a .rar file what program do i use
[15:17] <jrib> !rar | simplepro
[15:18] <dr_willis> simplepro: the unrar package lest the gui archiver work with rars i belive
[15:18] <simplepro> ythank u
[15:18] <simplepro> hugs
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> ray76: what video chip do you use?
[15:20] <rimas> ok, I am on ubuntu 12.04 and have installed slapos, because  erp5 recommend to use it, but after I installed it, I get screen with login to slapos: slaposuser1, there no any docs about default passwords. That is a problem
[15:20] <ray76> ActionParsnip: it was setup on a nividia 6200, but that blew so i have just put in a nividia 400mx
[15:21] <k_n> !ping time out
[15:21] <k_n> !
[15:22] <designbybeck> where can i ask questions about Ubuntu Servers
[15:22] <DJones> designbybeck: Either here or #ubuntu-server 2nd one may be better, although its a quieter channel
[15:22] <designbybeck> ah...
[15:23] <designbybeck> thank you DJones
[15:23] <spantherix> no proprietary hardware driver menu anymore in 12.10? :-)
[15:23] <dr_willis> spantherix: its somewhere.. i forget where. ;-)
[15:23] <DJones> spantherix: System Settings -> Additional Drivers
[15:24] <spantherix> DJones, don't have "additional drivers"
[15:24] <dr_willis> in 12.10 i think synaptic has a menu item for the drivers also
[15:25] <DJones> spantherix: Sorry, just realised this desktop I'm on is 12.04
[15:25] <spantherix> nah not a problem :-)
[15:25] <spantherix> just bought my new thinkpad edge E325 with AMD E-450 APU
[15:27] <xro> Hi, i would like to use a fiber-channel (hba) card in my HP proliant with ubuntu 12.04 64 server...  dmesg show a qla2xxx. How can i set up the card?
[15:27] <baskak> hello, is it safe to use ubuntu tweak's cleaning function? it found 3gb of unnecessary packages (apt cache etc.), which seems to finally answer my question why is it always, that my ubuntu partition runs out of space
[15:28]  * dr_willis sees a kick comming
[15:28] <jrib> baskak: I would want to know exactly what it wants to remove...
[15:29] <dr_willis> baskak: for cache   apt-get clean      clears it belive
[15:29] <bkc_> baskak: the apt cache can safely be purged, the rest I have no idea what it is and thus can't give a proper answer :)
[15:29] <dr_willis> cache cqn get big.
[15:29] <bkc_> indeed
[15:29] <L3top> baskak: sudo apt-get autoclean   will help as well.
[15:30] <baskak> mostly apt-cache (2.3 gb), also "unneeded packages", "obsolete kernels", "software center cache"
[15:31] <dr_willis> baskak: all handed by the right apt-get options
[15:31] <jrib> dr_willis: is there a "nice" way to remove obsolete kernels now?
[15:31] <bkc_> obsolete kernels: yes, software center cache: yes, "unneeded packages": maybe
[15:31] <spantherix> sudo apt-get autoremove && apt-get clean  <-- this and you're clean :)
[15:31] <baskak> L#top: actually i never had a success using apt-get autoclean and similar - always A LOT of debris left. ubuntu tweak is first time i see sizeable removal option
[15:32] <baskak> l3top: :)
[15:32] <L3top> info gdmap | baskak You might also like gdmap. It makes it easy to find huge files/directories.
[15:32] <_val_> Hello. Is there an ubuntu precompiled package of oVirt? Anyone
[15:32] <dr_willis> ubuntu tweak is being discontinued i thougt.
[15:32] <L3top> !info gdmap | baskak You might also like gdmap. It makes it easy to find huge files/directories.
[15:32] <baskak> dr_willis: it was, but is back
[15:33] <baskak> L3top: disk analyzer it is?
[15:33] <zAo^> how can I inscrease the mouse scroll speed?
[15:34] <baskak> and what's more, i _saw_ absolete kernels being purged after upgrading to 12.10... quite a few in fact, wth?
[15:34] <L3top> baskak: it just displays everything in a dir and its subdirs as different size/color blocks... so you can easily see huge files/directories
[15:34] <rephy222> anyone know how i can do a time based command in bash
[15:34] <baskak> L3top: thx, will check
[15:34] <rephy222> like in x amount of secounds run xxx
[15:34] <jrib> rephy222: sleep N; COMMAND
[15:34] <L3top> sleep
[15:34] <llutz> rephy222: install "at"
[15:36] <rephy222> whats at
[15:36] <llutz> !info at
[15:36] <rephy222> sleep works fine
[15:37] <dr_willis> use both.... ;-)
[15:37] <rephy222> now would that "at" be better if i wanted to run a command at a specific time ..instead of waiting a certain ammount of seconds
[15:38] <baskak> dr_willis: ;)
[15:38] <baskak> thanks, dudes and dudettes
[15:38] <cordoval> broke my apache with an nginx update
[15:38] <cordoval> thanks ubuntu
[15:38] <cordoval> do you speak it?
[15:38] <cordoval> anyone else with the same problem? apache broke because of nginx update?
[15:39] <L3top> rephy222: that is what cron is for
[15:40] <llutz> cron is for repeated jobs, at for running then once "at hh.mm"
[15:40] <llutz> them
[15:40] <rephy222> is that another app
[15:40] <rephy222> !cron
[15:40] <llutz> rephy222: cron and at / atd are different programs
[15:41] <llutz> (for different tasks)
[15:41] <DX099> Hello all, I'd want to try LXDE in Ubuntu 12.10. Any reason to refrain ?
[15:42] <dr_willis> DX099: lxde works well
[15:42] <bkc_> !lubuntu | DX099
[15:43] <DX099> dr_willis: thanks, I was asking because I once tried XFCE in 12.04 and it was crashing several times. I'll give LXDE a try then.
[15:43] <dr_willis> intall lubuntu-desktop package.select lubuntu at login...
[15:44] <dr_willis> xfce is not  lxde. ;-)
[15:45] <_val_> so anyone?
[15:46] <_val_> Hello. Is there an ubuntu precompiled package of oVirt? Anyone
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> DX099: go for it, LXDE is badass
[15:47] <dr_willis> _val_: search for a ppa?
[15:48] <sanguo0023> hello,where can i get a help document for XChat?
[15:48] <DX099> dr_willis: yes, but it's strange, when installing lubuntu-desktop package, it would pick up several packages that I remember were part of xfce, like 'xfburn
[15:48] <DX099>   xfce-keyboard-shortcuts{a} xfce4-notifyd xfce4-power-manager' (http://paste.ubuntu.com/1321094/)
[15:50] <IdleOne> sanguo0023: www.xchat.org
[15:50] <vfw> sanguo0023: From your fellow XChatters.  (Sorry, couldn't resist.)
[15:52] <sanguo0023> thanks,i get it
[15:52] <ideafix> Logout
[15:53] <dr_willis> xchat used to have a nice 'help' menu item....
[15:53] <vfw> DX099: xfce crashing?  I've used it for a long time, never experienced crashing?  Are you sure it was xfce that was crashing, or something else?
[15:53] <YIFU> good night ::)
[15:53] <Guest17754> cia
[15:53] <Guest17754> list
[15:54] <dr_willis> no list here Guest17754
[15:54] <sys-op> hi
[15:54] <DX099> DX099: I didn't investigate any further : each time I would do a certain action, a very simple one, like right-clicking on desktop or in some easy to reach menu, it would crash and reload
[15:54] <dr_willis> Guest17754: you always list every channel you join?
[15:55] <DX099> vfw:  I didn't investigate any further : each time I would do a certain action, a very simple one, like right-clicking on desktop or in some easy to reach menu, it would crash and reload
[15:55] <sys-op> I'm trying to change the keybinding for F1 in terminal
[15:55] <Guest17754> ciao!
[15:55] <Guest17754> list
[15:55] <somsip> !list > Guest17754
[15:55] <sys-op> Currently it displays the help screen for gnome
[15:56] <sys-op> I just want to clear it so I can use the character sequence in irssi
[15:56] <dr_willis> Guest17754: you always list every channel you join?...... this is not a file shareing channel
[15:56] <kode_> whenever i install for all updates from the package manager in 12.04, i get "Package operation failed " message window at the end of update process. It says "The installation or removal of a software package failed " what should i do to get rid of it??
[15:56] <blazemore> kode_: sudo apt-get -f install
[15:56] <vfw> DX099: That's interesting.  I'd like to have been in on trying to trouble-shoot that incident.
[15:56] <dr_willis> sys-op: you mean in gnome-terminal?
[15:56] <Guest17754> ciao!
[15:57] <Guest17754> list
[15:57] <sys-op> yes sir, dr_willis
[15:57] <DX099> vfw: I'll be retrying to reproduce that in some hours
[15:57] <dr_willis> Guest17754:  this is not a file shareing channel
[15:58] <vfw> DX099: Ok, good.  It's just that I've had such good service from xfce across several releases and it's always worked pretty much flawlessly.
[15:58] <DX099> vfw, also  why is Lubuntu installing some packages obviously xfce-related ? (http://paste.ubuntu.com/1321094/) see at the end
[15:58] <kode_> blazemore: i tried installing cheese from terminal by the commnads but then it says: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[15:58] <anev> are there ways to modify the log priority levels in ubuntu?
[15:58] <blazemore> kode_: Could you run sudo apt-get -f install in a terminal, and copy the output into http://paste.ubuntu.com
[15:58] <dr_willis> DX099: because they liked the xfce tools...
[15:58] <anev> something in /proc maybe?
[15:58] <anev> s/priority/verbose/1
[15:59] <dr_willis> xfburn is nice and quick
[15:59] <DX099> ok
[15:59] <blazemore> DX099: I would assume that because LXDE lacks a few graphical config tools, the Lubuntu team decided to go with ones from XFCE instead
[16:00] <kode_> blazemore: did it.
[16:01] <blazemore> kode_: ...and? what's the link?
[16:01] <blazemore> Is there a "paste" bot command because I get this *a lot* in here?
[16:01] <kode_> blazemore: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1321129/
[16:01] <blazemore> ty
[16:02] <vfw> DX099: I don't know, but xde is a bit limited on it's on and I would assume it is to make up for those defenciencies.
[16:02] <theadmin> blazemore: Sure, it's !paste or !pastebin
[16:02] <Alstreim> Hi! I'll be installing Ubuntu first time in years on my new PC and I wander if I should go with 32 or 64 bit version, any help?
[16:02] <rusfus> hi, I do not know why today I began to appear Blueman applet 1.23, and I can not remove it. someone I can 'help?
[16:02] <theadmin> Alstreim: new pc -> 64bit
[16:02] <wols_> Alstreim: what cpu and how much RAM?
[16:03] <DX099> alright, I'll be trying it
[16:03] <blazemore> kode_: The problem there is that the Samba package is having some problems, it's only that, not related to any other application you're trying to install
[16:03] <Alstreim> Intel i7
[16:03] <wols_> Alstreim: get the amd64 ISO
[16:03] <blazemore> kode_: It was a known bug and has apparently now been fixed. What happens if you run "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade"
[16:03] <vfw> DX099: Ubuntu developers must have realized that in the areas of keyboard shortcuts and power management, xde was defecient and needed those packages to makeup for shortcomings.  [/ASSUMPTIONS]
[16:04] <kode_> blazemore: for any application m trying to install its giving the same error i pasted.
[16:04] <area51pilot> sudo gedit fstab
[16:04] <blazemore> kode_: I know, that's because every time you install an application, it goes back and tries to install the "samba" package which never finished installing
[16:04] <kode_> blazemore: i have tried that but it does not work.
[16:04] <blazemore> kode_: try sudo chmod +x /usr/share/samba/setoption.p
[16:04] <vfw> *lxde
[16:04] <blazemore> And then sudo apt-get -f install
[16:05] <kode_> blazemore: ok.. let me do it.
[16:05] <sys-op> Have any of you tried Hybryde Evolution?
[16:05] <area51pilot> I get an error stating unable to mount /media/sda3 on startup, Press S to skip or M for Manual?
[16:06] <area51pilot> its an NTFS partition with Data
[16:06] <kode_> blazemore: this is the result::   chmod: cannot access `/usr/share/samba/setoption.p': No such file or directory
[16:06] <Alstreim> wols_: Why amd not the standard one?
[16:06] <blazemore> area51pilot: /media/sda3? Sounds dodgy
[16:06] <blazemore> kode_: try sudo chmod +x /usr/share/samba/setoption.pl
[16:06] <blazemore> sorry typo
[16:06] <wols_> Alstreim: cause that's the only one for your cpu
[16:06] <Alstreim> ok
[16:06] <area51pilot> blazenmore?
[16:07] <blazemore> area51pilot: Please paste the result of running "cat /etc/fstab" into http://paste.ubuntu.com and then paste the resulting URL in this channel
[16:07] <Alstreim> fair enough
[16:08] <area51pilot> blazemore:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1321153/
[16:09] <kode_> blazemore: its the same error again : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1321129/
[16:09] <blazemore> area51pilot: OK now what happens if you run "sudo mount -o remount /dev/sda3"
[16:09] <blazemore> kode_: Do you know why you installed samba?
[16:10] <area51pilot> blazemore: its already mounted
[16:10] <blazemore> kode_: I'd go with the nuclear approach: sudo apt-get --purge remove samba4
[16:10] <kode_> blazemore: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1321158/  this is the new error.
[16:10] <blazemore> area51pilot: Then what's the problem
[16:11] <blazemore> kode_: That's the same error
[16:11] <area51pilot> I get the error on startup... not sure why though
[16:11] <area51pilot> timing issue?
[16:11] <blazemore> kode_: Sort of
[16:11] <area51pilot> is there a way to get rid of the warning
[16:12] <manx_> join #ubuntu-cn
[16:12] <rusfus> help me!! pls hi, I do not know why today I began to appear Blueman applet 1.23, and I can not remove it. someone I can 'help?
[16:12] <blazemore> area51pilot: Not sure I'm google-fu-ing now
[16:12] <kode_> blazemore: did it. should i now try to install something?
[16:13] <blazemore> kode_: yeah try sudo apt-get -f install
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> area51pilot: when did you last chkdsk the NTFS partition?
[16:13] <rusfus> I do not understand what may serve
[16:13] <blazemore> ActionParsnip: good call
[16:13] <manx_> please ,tell me ,what join ubuntu-cn ? thinks
[16:13] <blazemore> rusfus: Do you know what blueman applet is? You want to remove it, yes?
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> manx_: type:     /join #ubuntu-cn
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> manx_: same for any channel
[16:14] <vfw> ActionParsnip: And sometimes you need to run it a couple times before you clear things up. [/FYI]
[16:14] <area51pilot> i was newly installed a few days ago, but ran ntfs-config to set it to automount and I get this error on startup
[16:14] <manx_> thinks !!!
[16:14] <blazemore> area51pilot: Reboot into Windows. Schedule a checkdisk for the next reboot on that drive. Then reboot and let it do its thing, then reboot AGAIN into Windows
[16:14] <area51pilot> ok
[16:15] <area51pilot> ill try and be back ... thx blazemore
[16:15] <blazemore> The last step is somehow important
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> area51pilot: tick both baxes in the check for errors dialogue to do a full check
[16:15] <blazemore> rusfus: I can help you in here, not in a private message
[16:15] <area51pilot> ActionParsnip ... will  do
[16:15] <vfw> ActionParsnip: area51pilot And if you do the full check, be patient, it may take a LONG time.
[16:15] <voldyman> guys i am trying to build a firefox extension called firesheep. cant find needed package libxul
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> worth it though. Do it overnight
[16:15] <blazemore> rusfus: you could try running "sudo apt-get remove blueman" in a terminal
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> !find libxul
[16:16] <rusfus> blazemore ok sorry
[16:16] <blazemore> voldyman: Firesheep doesn't work on Linux does it?
[16:16] <voldyman> blazemore, it does
[16:16] <voldyman> just need some packages
[16:16] <rusfus> I do not know what I might be useful
[16:16] <blazemore> voldyman: Have you read this? http://randommusingsofarealgeek.blogspot.co.uk/2010/11/firesheep-on-linux.html
[16:17] <rusfus> ok tanks blazemore
[16:17] <An_Ony_Moose> how can I lower the latency of the timidity daemon?
[16:18] <kode_> blazemore: thanks a lot.
[16:18] <erictr1ck> so i added Pidgin to the Systray whitelist in 12.10, but the pidgin notification icon only shows up in one of my dual monitors' systrays. How can I get it to display in both like the other icons?
[16:18] <blazemore> kode_: Fixed?
[16:18] <voldyman> blazemore, apt-cache search libxul no results
[16:19] <kode_> blazemore: ya..am not getting that error. bt i was trying to install cheese, it installed successfully, bt its not opening.
[16:19] <blazemore> kode_: Run cheese from a terminal you might get some more useful errors
[16:19] <blazemore> An_Ony_Moose: Try running timidity with the -iA -B2,8 -Os options
[16:19] <ramon> i have ubuntu precise and doesnt read extermanal memory card (not USB) so is there any program i need to install in order to get it to read them?
[16:20] <tarzeau> ramon: what is it, if not usb?
[16:20] <blazemore> ramon: You have a card-reader in your laptop? What is the model of your laptop?
[16:20] <birdman> i have a question
[16:21] <blazemore> !ask
[16:21] <ramon> is my desktop and i am inserting a memory card from a camera but doesnt not read it
[16:21] <kode_> blazemore: ya... http://paste.ubuntu.com/1321176/
[16:21] <blazemore> OK that actually looks like a bug, kode_
[16:21] <birdman> !ask how do i get the onboard sound to work on a hp 2000 notebook
[16:22] <L3top> birdman: how are you connecting audio to what?
[16:22] <rimas> asla for sound
[16:22] <birdman> speakers to to thingama gig ona  hp 2000 notebook
[16:22] <L3top> birdman: eg hdmi/analog... etc
[16:22] <vfw> !sound | birdman
[16:22] <blazemore> birdman: open a terminal and then run the following three commands
[16:22] <blazemore> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-audio-dev/ppa
[16:22] <blazemore> sudo apt-get update
[16:22] <blazemore> sudo apt-get install linux-alsa-driver-modules-$(uname -r)
[16:22] <ramon> i meant i do have a slot where i can insert the memory card
[16:23] <L3top> what sort of thingamagig birdman
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> birdman: what is the output of:    wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> ramon: does the system have a make and model?
[16:23] <ramon> tarzeau, are you still there?
[16:23] <L3top> I am not sure installing experimental drivers is the catch all answer to audio probs...
[16:23] <blazemore> ramon: Did you build your desktop or do you have a make and model?
[16:23] <tarzeau> ramon: yep
[16:23] <cpruitt> Hey guys, I have a very big problem and this is not my wheelhouse.  I've accidentally set sudo chmod o-rx / and now my production system is hosed.  Is this recoverable?  I don't have physical access to the box at the moment but I can if needed.
[16:23] <ramon> is a HPP Pavilion
[16:24] <tarzeau> ramon: about the beamer?
[16:24] <blazemore> L3top: audio is supported out of the box on that laptop for recent ubuntus. it's only 10.10 and below that require the backported driver
[16:24] <vfw> L3top: One thing is sure;  If you don't do anything, you won't fix anything.
[16:24] <blazemore> ramon: There are a lot of HP pavilions, do you have a model number?
[16:24] <ramon> beamer?
[16:24] <L3top> blazemore: the backport exists without a PPA.
[16:24] <k_n> I am on Ubuntu 12.04. I want to use ipython notebook but after installing EPD, I get the following error: `The IPython Notebook requires tornado >= 2.1.0`.
[16:24] <blazemore> An example would be "HP Pavillion g6" or something
[16:25] <k_n> How do I update tornado...?
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> !ppa | k_n
[16:25] <ramon> blazemore, a1500la
[16:25] <birdman> add apt not found?
[16:25] <blazemore> birdman: add-apt-repository
[16:25] <blazemore> with the hyphens
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> birdman: if you copy and paste instead of trying to type it, you'll get it right
[16:26] <tiger_eye_> hey, I just did a clean install of ubuntu 12.10 with whole-disk encryption (except boot), and I get "evms_activate is not available" upon trying to boot
[16:26] <vfw> k_n: sudo apt-get upgrade bittornado
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> !info tornado
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> !find tornado
[16:27] <tiger_eye_> is there any way around this?  how can I "insmod crypto" into the kernel if I can't boot the system?
[16:28] <area51pilot> blazemore: there is a file /etc/fstab.BAK that looks like the original file backup. What would be the proper way to revert to that file if my file system check doesnt correcct the mount issue?
[16:28] <k_n> vfw: Thank you. Looks like I'd need python(3)-tornado...
[16:28] <area51pilot> i  can do w/o auto mounting the NTFS file system
[16:28] <blazemore> area51pilot: you would "sudo mv /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.broken && sudo mv /etc/fstab.BAK /etc/fstab"
[16:29] <vfw> k_n: Ok, well there you go....
[16:29] <blazemore> area51pilot: Basically the /etc/fstab file is what describes partition mounts, so whatever is in there is what will be mounted on boot
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> tiger_eye_: boot to liveCD, mount the storage partition and add the command to /etc/rc.local on the installed OS above the 'exit 0' line
[16:29] <kt> hi
[16:29] <area51pilot> blazemore: thx I understand that but have never had to really mess with it so far   :P  so im being cautious
[16:30] <blazemore> area51pilot: Make a liveCD before you go messing around with stuff you're not 100% confident about
[16:30] <L3top> vfw I have plenty of do available. I am not fond of that particular do.
[16:30] <tiger_eye_> thanks, ActionParsnip.  by the command, you mean "insmod crypto", right?  live CD already booted, will report back in a bit...
[16:30] <blazemore> area51pilot: That way if you break something you can just boot from the liveCD and copy the backup back
[16:30] <k_n> !info pyzmq
[16:30] <ramon> i am using ubuntu precise on a desktop HP Pavilion a1500la and i am inserting a 4GB memory card (SD-K04G) but ubuntu doesnt read it so i would like to know if i need to install any program
[16:30] <k_n> !find pyzmq
[16:31] <blazemore> Good question ramon :)
[16:31] <area51pilot> blazemore: thx ... i just clean installed 12.04 and 7 this weekend ... would like to avoid cloning the drive back :)
[16:32] <L3top> ramon: my hp laptop does not like reading certain camera cards either. I have not cared enough to look for a solution. one sec.
[16:33] <svip> root can play sound, but I cannot.  Is some process stealing my sound device?
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> tiger_eye_: whatever you run, add it there. The command runs as root
[16:33] <blazemore> ramon: Could you please run the command "lspci && echo "--" && lsusb" in a terminal, and then paste the output into http://paste.ubuntu.com and put the link in here?
[16:33] <area51pilot> blazemore; Ill paste the BAK file before I do anything and maybe you guys can verify for me it looks valid
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> svip: what is the output of: groups     as your user?
[16:33] <blazemore> !paste | area51pilot
[16:33] <svip> ActionParsnip: I was able to play sound a few moments ago.  So I doubt my groups has changed.
[16:34] <ramon> blazemore, ok
[16:34] <vfw> L3top: Neither am I an advocate of backports.
[16:34] <blazemore> In my experience, sound on Linux only works once you've recited the necessary incantations (or rebooted)
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> svip: as your user, run:   killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*     wait 10 seconds then reboot
[16:34] <vfw> svip: What error do you get?
[16:34] <svip> vfw: None, just no sound.
[16:35] <wilee-nilee> ramon, Have you started the computer with the card in, I have a acer that does not always read those cards when just inserted.
[16:35] <svip> ActionParsnip: I don't use PulseAudio.
[16:35] <vfw> svip: play /usr/share/sounds/alsa/*
[16:35] <ramon> wilee-nilee, i did try that already though
[16:35] <vfw> svip: ... and tell us what errors you get.
[16:36] <svip> vfw: Indeed; no sound.  But if I put sudo in front, plenty of sound.
[16:36] <vfw> svip: ... or paste it if it's more than one line.
[16:36] <svip> ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:1018:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
[16:36] <svip> ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:1018:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
[16:36] <svip> Goddamn it.
[16:36] <FloodBot1> svip: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:36] <vfw> svip: did you issue the above command as normal user?  If so, what error did you get?
[16:37] <vfw> svip: pastebinit
[16:37] <An_Ony_Moose> blazemore: doesn't seem to do anything if I run it as myself. Do I need to sudo -u timidity it?
[16:37] <svip> vfw: I use aplay.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1321234/
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> svip: what is the output of:    wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh
[16:40] <DX099> I just installed and logged in lxde session, lots of crashes. ntfs-3g was first, then gnome-mplayer though i didn't try to open it, then compiz repeatedly crashes
[16:40] <DX099> vfw, I just installed and logged in lxde session, lots of crashes. ntfs-3g was first, then gnome-mplayer though i didn't try to open it, then compiz repeatedly crashes
[16:40] <blazemore> An_Ony_Moose: I actually don't know anything about timidity. How do you usually run the daemon?
[16:41] <ramon> blazemore,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1321241/
[16:41] <birdman> it says try wget --help
[16:41] <jvalentin> maybe it's just me, but installing apache2 on ubuntu is harder than I recall. Was installed, but not managing virtual hosts as expected so reinstalled, and it didn't create httpd config file or sites-available or enabled directories. I followed guides, but Is there a known issue?
[16:41] <svip> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1321242/ This.
[16:42] <blazemore> Sorry ramon I can't help you
[16:42] <blazemore> jvalentin: You are looking in /etc/apache2/sites-available/ ?
[16:42] <ramon> blazemore, thank you ayways
[16:42] <jvalentin> yes
[16:42] <blazemore> (TIL irssi has tab-completion for filenames, which made my day)
[16:43] <jvalentin> blazemore, yes, that's exactly right
[16:43] <blazemore> And you installed the apache2 package?
[16:43] <logictheo> The page at http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201010-6649/ recommends the Ubuntu 12.04 LTS 64-bit edition, but it doesn't work. Only the 32-bit version worked.
[16:43] <its> hi
[16:44] <vfw> svip: Looks like it played without error.  Run alsamixer and see if anything is turned down or muted.
[16:44] <its> I have a problem with ubuntu and am new to it , can any1 help me plz
[16:44] <logictheo> If none cares about this issue just more users will be mislead and possibly consider Ubuntu unprofessional.
[16:44] <blazemore> svip: 90% of the time the "PCM" channel is muted
[16:44] <area51> blazemore: can you or someone take a look a this fstab.BAK file and see if it looks valid:   http://paste.ubuntu.com/1321251/
[16:44] <svip> vfw: There isn't.  But since it works with root, can I not already confirm that?
[16:45] <tiger_eye_> ActionParsnip, I'm not sure I understand your suggestion.  If root can't even be decrypted, then '/etc/rc.local' will never get called
[16:45] <blazemore> area51: Looks kosher from here
[16:45] <svip> blazemore: I cannot even mute the PCM channel.
[16:45] <area51> blazemore: does it look like it will mount sda3?
[16:45] <blazemore> area51: I'd recommend changing /dev/sda3 for a UUID though
[16:45] <tiger_eye_> isn't it funky that, you know, a new install with full-disk encryption isn't even able to boot: "evms_activate is not available"?
[16:45] <svip> But the three that matters; MAster Front, PCM and Front are all unmuted.  And above 20 each.
[16:46] <jvalentin> blazemore, yes, apt-get install apache2* is what I ran
[16:47] <jvalentin> I get unmet dependencies errors
[16:47] <svip> vfw: Users don't have different sound channel levels in my experience, at least not in alsamixer.
[16:47] <area51> blazemore: I dont want to mount sda3 ... this is the NTFS partition i get the mount error on during boot
[16:47] <logictheo> By the way I've done the Ubuntu friendly thing. Does anyone know where I can see the results? Are they hosted on some Ubuntu site?
[16:47] <Sedated> anybody familiar with using the mini install cd image in a virtual machine?  there's no option to install a minimal virtual machine like there is with the full installer.  how do i get the virtual kernel installed instead of the normal server one?
[16:47] <An_Ony_Moose> blazemore: it runs as a daemon, as the user timidity
[16:47] <blazemore> area51: Try changing /dev/sda3 in /etc/fstab with UUID=xxxxx where xxxxx is obtained through "sudo blkid"
[16:48] <its>  I have 2 problems and an new to ubuntu :) > #1: I cant login to ubuntu from my adminstraitor account, but I can >    login from the guest account . I tried to make a new adminstrator >    account from the guest account and it works  but i still have the >    problem with my main account , even after I upgarde from 12.04 to >    12.10 still the same problem .. > -------- > #2:  when I try to login to Ubuntu software  center it show a d
[16:48] <blazemore> area51: I thought your problem was you get an error during boot with /dev/sda3?
[16:48] <area51> blazemore: on line 17?
[16:48] <blazemore> sorry?
[16:48] <area51> yes ... i do get the error
[16:48] <svip> I mean; if I crank up PCM as my own user, root will also have cPCM cranked up.
[16:48] <trism> tiger_eye_: according to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cryptsetup/+bug/957602/comments/3 that message probably isn't why you can't boot
[16:49] <vfw> svip: play /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav 2>&1 |pastebinit  #And send resulting URL
[16:49] <jvalentin> blazemore, after I get the unmet dependencies list, I try and install each of those manually, but not sure if that's enough, and then still no httpd conf file anywhere
[16:49] <vfw> svip: Or:  play /usr/share/sounds/alsa/* 2>&1 |pastebinit  #And send resulting URL
[16:49] <area51> blazemore: this is the result of blkid: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1321267/
[16:50] <jvalentin> the /etc/apache2 directory only has a mods-available dir in it, nothing else
[16:50] <blazemore> jvalentin: That sounds weird
[16:50] <jvalentin> that doesn't seem correct, altho I don't know if it has changed in 12.x
[16:50] <blazemore> jvalentin: Try sudo apt-get install --reinstall apache2
[16:50] <blazemore> You probably already did
[16:51] <blazemore> I'm running 12.10 on this server right now and I installed apache just fine
[16:51] <tiger_eye_> trism, I would like that comment even more if it had an explanation, likely fix, or references
[16:51] <area51> blazemore should i change lines 12 & 17 from /dev/sda3 to the UUID=22B4AD8CB4AD6351
[16:51] <jvalentin> I didn't do a reinstall, I did a remove and then install again
[16:51] <svip> vfw: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1321272/http://paste.ubuntu.com/1321272/
[16:51] <blazemore> area51: Any reference to /dev/sda3 should be replaced with UUID=22B4AD8CB4AD6351
[16:51] <blazemore> jvalentin: Try sudo apt-get --purge remove apache2
[16:51] <blazemore> then reinstall
[16:51] <area51> ok
[16:52] <area51> thx
[16:52] <blazemore> (assuming that is the UUID you got from sudo blkid)
[16:52] <jvalentin> hmm, tried reinstall and got "E: Invalid Operation apache2"
[16:52] <vfw> svip: As you can see, it is playing.  Did you run alsamixer?
[16:52] <svip> vfw: Yes.
[16:53] <jvalentin> purge is in process
[16:53] <blazemore> jvalentin: It's apt-get install --reinstall apache2
[16:53] <vfw> svip: It is playing, you are just not hearing anything from the speakers.  I dont' know why but that is what is happening.
[16:53] <blazemore> not apt-get --reinstall apache2
[16:53] <jvalentin> yes, I'd tried but got the error, but purge worked
[16:54] <svip> vfw: o_O wtf.  Alsa required side to be unmuted.
[16:54] <jvalentin> so, should I run apt-get install apache*
[16:54] <MonkeyDust> jvalentin  it's apache2
[16:54] <vfw> svip: Look at alsamixer window and see that nothing is muted or turned down. (MM at bottom of a channel means it is mutted and m toggles mute on or off).
[16:54] <blazemore> if that's what you want, I'd jsut install apache2 personally
[16:54] <area51> blazemore: one last look pleae?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1321281/
[16:54] <svip> vfw: Well, at least, now it is working.  Thanks for the help anyway.  I just did not think I needed side or surround as I haven't needed those in the past.
[16:55] <area51> b4 i replace with this last file
[16:55] <vfw> svip: move from one channel to another with the right or left arrows.  m  will toggle muting on or off.
[16:55] <navalastro> yeray
[16:55] <navalastro> sassassasa
[16:55] <navalastro> asssaas
[16:55] <navalastro> asass
[16:55] <navalastro> asas
[16:55] <navalastro> s
[16:55] <FloodBot1> navalastro: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:55] <navalastro> as
[16:56] <MonkeyDust> navalastro  it works, you're in
[16:56] <jvalentin> ok, did that (just installed apache2), but the /etc/apache2 dir still only has mods-available in it
[16:56] <logictheo> Earlier I asked for help about the page at http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201010-6649/ recommending 64-bit. Taking a closer look I reported the issue, so it's not an issue anymore.
[16:56] <vfw> svip: When you have no sound, first check to see if it is just muted or turned down.  [For future reference.]
[16:56] <blazemore> logictheo: By "earlier" you mean 3 minutes ago
[16:56] <navalastro> de mierda
[16:56] <logictheo> blazemore: Yeah, 3 minutes ago.
[16:56] <blazemore> Try asking again in a few hours or tomorrow
[16:57] <mN-> Anyone have the problem with 64bit ubuntu that it flashes with a blend of commandlines and ubuntu load screen in thebeginning and doesnt start until u hit ESC
[16:57] <logictheo> no, not
[16:57] <logictheo> 13 minutes ago
[16:57] <L3top> ok
[16:57] <blazemore> logictheo: My point still stands. If I don't get an answer I usually wait until a different timezone is awake
[16:57] <blazemore> logictheo: It's not really a question so much either. is there a link on the page to report mistakes?
[16:58] <logictheo> blazemore: Yes, it said "If there is an issue with the information for this system, please let us know."
[16:58] <blazemore> Well do that then
[16:58] <mN-> 1. How do I get 120hz with Ubuntu 64bit?  2. Is there anyway to remove mouse acceleration?
[16:58] <logictheo> blazemore: I did. That's why I came here to say that I succeeded.
[16:58] <blazemore> Congratulations :)
[16:58] <jvalentin> blazemore, is the etc/apache2 supposed to have more in it after installing apache2, or am I supposed to create the httpd.conf and sites-available &  sites-enabled ?
[16:58] <logictheo> ...and that I no longer need help in that regard.
[16:59] <blazemore> jvalentin: it's supposed to have sites-available sites-enabled etc
[16:59] <wols_> jvalentin: there should be more in it. had you installed apache2 before?
[16:59] <jvalentin> yes, on different machines
[16:59] <jvalentin> always worked fine
[16:59] <wols_> no, only important if on this one
[16:59] <wols_> !confmiss
[16:59] <jvalentin> even on ubuntu 11x and earlier
[16:59] <wols_> most stuff in there is put there by apache2.2-common IIRC
[17:00] <logictheo> blazemore: Do you know anything about the https://friendly.ubuntu.com/ site? Can I rate there? There are ratings for 1 to 5 stars.
[17:00] <jvalentin> so I'm trying to see if there's another method of installing for 12x
[17:00] <StockHunter> just need to know the command that displays system info for ubuntu server, anyone know it?
[17:00] <blazemore> logictheo: I've never heard of it
[17:00] <gnuskool> is amazon shopping still in the new ubuntu?
[17:00] <blazemore> jvalentin: This channel is full of Ubuntu users who are just like you, you know. We don't work for canonical or anything
[17:01] <bazhang> !adlens | gnuskool
[17:01] <logictheo> blazemore: Are you interested to learn about it?
[17:01] <blazemore> Apologies f there's anyone in here who actually does work for canonical
[17:01] <Debolaz> gnuskool: Yes.
[17:01] <blazemore> logictheo: Not really, I don't use ubuntu
[17:01] <logictheo> blazemore: Alright, but would you like to use Ubuntu?
[17:01] <blazemore> logictheo: No
[17:01] <blazemore> I did use Ubuntu from 6.06 to 10.10
[17:01] <logictheo> blazemore: Hmm, do you use any system that has linux the kernel in it?
[17:02] <blazemore> logictheo: I use Debian
[17:02] <blazemore> (at work) - and Chakra (based on Arch) at home
[17:02] <gnuskool> bazhang: cheers
[17:02] <bazhang> logictheo, this is not the channel for polls
[17:02] <blazemore> #ubuntu-offtopic I'm happy to continue the discussion
[17:02] <logictheo> bazhang: Do you use Ubuntu or do you use Debian too?
[17:02] <jvalentin> blazemore, sorry if I implied that I expected that, was merely hoping someone else had similar experience or knowledge of why apt-get isn't installing as expected
[17:02] <Debolaz> Meh, I fear its going to require a lot of debugging to figure out why empathy broke in 12.10. :/
[17:02] <logictheo> ok, I'll get to Ubuntu offtopic
[17:03] <bazhang> logictheo, I just told you not to poll here, thanks
[17:03] <jvalentin> I wasn't sure how to use the software center to install apache, I didn't find it in the list
[17:03] <logictheo> bazhang: and I respected your post
[17:03] <logictheo> by saying I'll gladly go to the offtopic channel
[17:04] <gnuskool> jvalentin, in older versions of ubuntum you simply selected to view installation types and chose lamp server
[17:04] <Debolaz> Is anyone else here using empathy in 12.10 and not getting any message counter in the launcher icon?
[17:05] <gnuskool> jvalentin, from within the software centre, dunno about the new version though
[17:06] <simion314> hi, my apot seems broken http://pastebin.com/2BaSeiqN   how can I fix it?
[17:06] <blazemore> simion314: sudo apt-get -f install
[17:06] <simion314> blazemore: it fails,see in there
[17:07] <blazemore> Oh lol, sorry simion314 I'm so used to saying that...
[17:07] <blazemore> simion314: What version od Ubuntu are you running?
[17:07] <gnuskool> jvalentin, if all else fails, in cmd line sudo apt-get install lamp-server
[17:07] <simion314> blazemore: 12.04 64bit
[17:08] <blazemore> Got it - sudo apt-get remove skype skype-bin
[17:08] <blazemore> Then do what you need to do, then work on installing Skype
[17:08] <tiger_eye_> alright, I think I'll do another re-install without RAID.  The standard Live CD installation can do full-drive encryption and LVM, right?
[17:09] <blazemore> simion314: To install Skype correctly; sudo apt-add-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ $(lsb_release -sc) partner"
[17:09] <simion314> blazemore: thx
[17:09] <tiger_eye_> oh, and I hope it's straightforward to migrate a non-RAID system to RAID1.  anybody got a decent reference or warnings about this?
[17:09] <REdOG> how do I set a service to comeup after networking has been established?
[17:10] <vfw> REdOG: Since you need to wait until networking is up, you might just want to put it in /etcrc.local
[17:10] <vfw> */etc/rc.local
[17:10] <blazemore> that's /etc/rc.local
[17:10] <blazemore> gah
[17:10] <vfw> blazemore: Thanks  :)
[17:11] <blazemore> OK I'm going home, I don't think I'm in the middle of helping anyone at the moment, but if I'm wrong call me out
[17:11] <REdOG> vfw, k thanks
[17:11] <vfw> NP
[17:11] <gnuskool> why so few ppl nowadys?
[17:11] <mN-> 1. How do I get 120hz with Ubuntu 64bit? 2. Is there anyway to remove mouse acceleration?
[17:11] <vfw> blazemore: okeydokey :)
[17:12] <mN-> regarding 1. I tried finding Xconf from X11 directory but no luck in a
[17:12] <Pumpkin-> mN-: xset <someoptions> for the mouse accel
[17:13] <Pumpkin-> not exactly sure what ones
[17:14] <yggdrasil> hi, i havea lenovo w510 and a docking station, i can get two monitors to work fine but when it ry to use 3 (the laptop screen iteslf ) it fails.. i have nvidia drivers ..
[17:14] <area51> blazemore: thx for your help ... i discovered I needed to comment out the 2nd entry for /media/sda3 stop the boot msg.
[17:15] <area51> 1st entry UUID mounts the NTFS media
[17:16] <jvalentin> gnuskool, thanks, but I got "sudo apt-get install lamp-server"
[17:17] <FireStorms> Hi, I 'invested' in a 1TB External HDD. The HDD is formatted as NTFS, I'm wondering if it's best to leave it as that or should I format it to ext3; would there be a benefit. I use Ubuntu 10.04
[17:17] <XiaolinDraconis> i have a startconky.sh script that runs just fine when i dbl click it, however i get an internal error when it is set to run at start up
[17:17] <MonkeyDust> FireStorms  if it's just for file storage, you can safely use ntfs
[17:17] <vfw> FireStorms: ext4
[17:17] <blazemore> FireStorms: If you only use Ubuntu, then yes you should format it as ext3 or something similar. However, if you want to be able to plug it into a Windows system and have it work, you'll need NTFS
[17:18] <vfw> FireStorms: Are you installing Ubuntu on it?
[17:18] <FireStorms> vfw, no just file storage
[17:18] <FireStorms> blazemore, very good point, I think I'll leave it as it is then, thanks :)
[17:18] <vfw> FireStorms: What do you have now? (How large is /home partition?)
[17:18] <vfw> FireStorms: Are you dual boot?
[17:19] <XiaolinDraconis> or fat32
[17:19] <vfw> FireStorms: Is your system dual boot?
[17:21] <vfw> FireStorms: As XiaolinDraconis points out, fat32 may be better.
[17:21] <XiaolinDraconis> i have a startconky.sh script that runs just fine when i dbl click it, however i get an internal error when it is set to run at start up
[17:21] <carestad> is there a way to get ecryptfs to mount with suid?
[17:22] <carestad> and, now that I first stumbled in here: anyone else having trouble with installing wine in theiry x64 setup?
[17:23] <FireStorms> vfw, sorry yes I'm dual boot 160GB HDD 100GB to Ubuntu remainder Windows lol
[17:23]  * FireStorms looksup fat32
[17:23] <XiaolinDraconis> carestad, try PlayOnLinux, its a wine frontend that makes installing various apps a lot easier
[17:23] <wols_> !errors | carestad
[17:24] <steven-> try crossover for linux
[17:24] <steven-> which is free for today..
[17:24] <carestad> steven-: yup, tried that
[17:24] <carestad> I get a lot of dependency errors
[17:24] <carestad> with both wine, crossover and ia32-libs, when trying to install them
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> carestad: try:   sudo apt-get -f install
[17:24] <vfw> FireStorms: Well, if you intend to share files, yea, NTFS or FAT32.  (I recommend FAT32)
[17:24] <carestad> ActionParsnip: yes, that doesn't work
[17:25] <steven-> thats weird, i just installed crossover a couple of minutes ago
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> carestad: did you try the wine ppa?
[17:25] <carestad> I've tried with a fresh install of Ubuntu as well - the same happens
[17:25] <steven-> did you use the softwarecenter or commandline?
[17:25] <quem> not too satisfied with 12.10 so far. xorg is a massive resource hog, gnome-panel segfaults, constant crashes and the proprietary ati driver doesn't work
[17:25] <carestad> steven-: both + I installed synaptic and tried there
[17:25] <quem> anyone know any remedies for any of this?
[17:25] <thealphanerd> anyone playing with ubuntu on the nexus 7?
[17:25] <vfw> FireStorms: http://cquirke.mvps.org/ntfs.htm
[17:25] <steven-> whats the error message anyway?
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> quem: if you use a different desktop, is it ok?
[17:26] <VlanY> so guys, does 12.10 of ubuntu enforce any cloud features?
[17:26] <k1l_> thealphanerd: there is more chance in the dev channel #ubuntu-arm
[17:26] <carestad> ActionParsnip steven- XiaolinDraconis I have created a question at askubuntu.com: http://askubuntu.com/questions/210054/cant-install-wine-or-ia32-libs-in-ubuntu-12-10-64-bit
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> VlanY: doesn't enforce anything, you can use it as you please
[17:26] <quem> ActionParsnip: as in desktop environment on this machine? haven't tried
[17:26] <thealphanerd> k1l_: ohh devy!!! thanks buddy!
[17:26] <quem> haven't tried 12.10 on any other system yet
[17:27] <quem> and 12.04 worked perfectly. no complaints there.
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> quem: may be just Gnome being weird
[17:27] <quem> :/
[17:27] <cha0s_> any way to play H264 - MPEG-4 avc video format on ubuntu?
[17:27] <VlanY> ActionParsnip: you mean as 12.04 ?  cause i've heard that windows8 does enforce cloud environment.  If also linux starts doing that...
[17:28] <quem> cha0s_: doesn't it out of the box?
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> cha0s_: install ubuntu-restricted-extras vlc gnome-mplayer and w32codecs you should be able to play most things
[17:28] <cha0s_> not as of yet but will install now
[17:28] <k1l_> VlanY: no.
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> VlanY: in Linux you have choice
[17:29] <MonkeyDust> VlanY  freedom of choice is one of the differences between win and lin
[17:29] <VlanY> ActionParsnip: i seriously hope it stays like this forever, since now i'm dead on linux...
[17:30] <FireStorms> vfw thank you for the link
[17:30] <FireStorms> thanks guys!
[17:30] <Haris> Hello all
[17:30] <Haris> I need a very basic kickstart file or seed file for ubuntu 11.1 install
[17:30] <cha0s_> ActionParsnip: how do i install the w32codecs?
[17:31] <VlanY> only last question, how can i check the current version ov the kernel that i'm using?  Cause i've been told to upgrade to 3.5
[17:31] <cha0s_> ActionParsnip: not in software center
[17:31] <HulkHogan> VlanY: uname -a
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> VlanY: should do. Its one of the founding principles
[17:31] <Haris> need the base OS installed, with editors. and that's all. nothing big
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> cha0s_: you need the medibuntu ppa adding
[17:32] <cha0s_> ActionParsnip: How do I do this? I'm not that knowledgeable
[17:32] <wilee-nilee> Haris, would the mini cd net install work?
[17:33] <Haris> I downloaded the server image for 11.10. Is that the same thing ?
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> cha0s_: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=medibuntu    too hard? I'm VERY sure you've done that before.....
[17:33] <Haris> and imported that into cobbler
[17:33] <FrozenFire> Anyone happen to know what handle Chris Coulson goes by on Freenode?
[17:33] <wilee-nilee> Haris, no the mini loads what you want, the base and choice of servers I believe and desktops as well.
[17:34] <HulkHogan> Haris: the alternative cd
[17:34] <wilee-nilee> Haris, here is the link take a look. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[17:34] <hermann> 4824400097279374
[17:34] <zorael> Does anyone know what the sysfs equavilent of /proc/acpi/wakeup is?
[17:35] <wilee-nilee> I think the alternative loads the desktop though
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> VlanY: to see the kernel version, run:   uname -r
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> wilee-nilee: it does, its been removed in Quatal
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> *Quantal
[17:35] <Haris> can it be built upon by adding more packages to be a full blown box ?
[17:35] <mN-> How to get 120hz in ubuntu 64bit? Cant find X.conf in X11 (nvidia)
[17:35] <wilee-nilee> ActionParsnip, The user wnts 11.10
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> Haris: yes, that's what it is for
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> wilee-nilee: sweet
[17:36] <Haris> the word "user" reminded me of tron
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> wilee-nilee: with support ending in April next year. Is it worth it?
[17:37] <wilee-nilee> ActionParsnip, I wouldn't think so, but I don't always mention the eol date, most of the time I do..
[17:37] <Haris> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/mini.iso <- this one is pretty pretty small, I must say
[17:38] <kafee786> hi
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> Haris: very but it installs very little, but you can build up and make a tight punchy OS
[17:38] <wilee-nilee> Haris, YOu se the end of life of 11.10 above
[17:38] <XiaolinDraconis> omg i managed to change resolutions with problems
[17:38] <Haris> yes, I do. Its specifically requested
[17:38] <XiaolinDraconis> now if only that worked every time
[17:38] <kafee786> i am not able to install tor in my ubuntu system
[17:39] <wilee-nilee> Haris, Cool we just like to inform if we can. ;)]
[17:39] <kafee786> any one give me way to do it
[17:39] <Haris> =)
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> kafee786: if you can give details, we can advise
[17:39] <wilee-nilee> kafee786, Tor has a download you can use that is not root.
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> !tor
[17:40] <Haris> that's done.
[17:40] <kafee786> i am using ubuntu 10.04
[17:40] <Haris> Where do I get the ks/seed file from
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> kafee786: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwFrO1XbxG0
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> kafee786: Lucid doesn't have a lot of life left. I suggest you use Precise or Quantal.
[17:41] <kafee786> is it for ubuntu 10.04
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> kafee786: it should run
[17:42] <thomedy> quick question.... how do locate the a specific file... i used locate and got 2 instancces of it... but i have a strong preminition that it is in aone of my include directories.... i need a difinitive answer so i can G++ it with -l
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> kafee786: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxFL8LAjtj8
[17:42] <kafee786> youtube videos is not working
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> kafee786: personally I wouldn't bother and just web browse
[17:42] <HulkHogan> thomedy: sudo updatedb
[17:43] <ASHER1> dammn with ftp i try everything and is no work :\
[17:43] <ActionParsnip> kafee786: https://www.torproject.org/download/download-easy.html.en
[17:43] <dr_willis> thomedy: locate uses a database so may  nit be totally accurate
[17:43] <thomedy> okay
[17:43] <cha0s_> ActioParsnip: ok installed everything and still no playback
[17:43] <thomedy> cool
[17:44] <thomedy> i was goign to do find / -name [file] but i always some how screw that command up an di dont know why
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> cha0s_: why could you not get the page that I gave you?
[17:44] <ciastek> Trying to move Ubuntu to new disk. Worked on Precise, now on Quantal have permission errors. Can't even log in on VT. Using rsync, updating fstab, grub-install, update-grub. Any ideas where to look?
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> thomedy: could use:   sudo updatedb   locate is very fast then :)
[17:44] <kafee786> in my college there is restriction on using proxy site
[17:45] <HulkHogan> thomedy: maybe learn how to use alias with bashrc makes commands eaiser
[17:45] <luingarmcwolf> guys, how can i change the grub's default boot option?
[17:45] <thomedy> you were right about locate being outdated i found the  one i wanted
[17:45] <cha0s_> ActioParsnip; I used the page you gave me and installed all of the stuff from it after enabling
[17:45] <dr_willis> luingarmcwolf:  in /etc/default/grub
[17:45] <thomedy> and i actaully can make my own commands i taught myself about 2 months ago... if thats what you mean HulkHogan
[17:45] <solstice> how do I automatically mount an luks partition since /etc/crypttab is not taken into account it seems
[17:45] <thomedy> im not a mazing but im getting better
[17:45] <luingarmcwolf> dr
[17:45] <kafee786> so i am not able to install it , is there any way to install it without proxy site
[17:45] <ActionParsnip> cha0s_: yes but why did I have to get you the link? All I did was search the web and not very well. Why couldn't you do that?
[17:46] <HulkHogan> thomedy: alias just makes command line easier to remember, since u said u forget how to use the find command
[17:46] <cha0s_> ActioParsnip because I am outside the police depo on half battery trying to get my security feed that I pulled from the dvr to play so i can show the officers who broke into my home
[17:47] <thomedy> so its not making your own bash script commands.. thats how  i do blender
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> cha0s_: doesn't mean you cannot websearch a little for yourself given the direction I gave you, does it?
[17:47] <thomedy> i wrote a script that takes me to the same path everytime in bin
[17:47] <fairuz_> Hi guys, to install a kernel, I need to install headers, image and image extra? Correct? http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.5-rc7-quantal/
[17:47] <fairuz_> in order?
[17:47] <thomedy> any way not the point righ tnow super thansk i found the library i wanted cuz i didn't know locate uses db and now im good
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> cha0s_: instead of seeing an unfamiliar term nd panicing then asking for details, try searching a little and you'll be surprised what you find
[17:48] <cha0s_> ActionParsnip: not tryingto be hard to get along with. just trying to get this info for the cops since I have no charger was hoping it would be faster asking in here
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> cha0s_: have you tried setting a different video output method in vlc
[17:48] <cha0s_> it wont even open in vlc it says unkown file type
[17:49] <Haris> http://phacker.org/files/2008/08/ubuntu_esprimo_e5920.txt <- this one installs X. I'll remove that part. Is this good for a basic install ?
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> cha0s_: open VLC then set the output, then open the file
[17:49] <dr_willis> vlc menus can tell you the codec of the vides also
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> cha0s_: you can run VLC without having it open a file
[17:50] <dr_willis> open vlc. drag/drop the file also works.
[17:50] <cha0s_> ActionParsnip: ok I have multiple choices for output but none specify if it will play the H264 any ideas?
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> cha0s_: try each in turn. I find X11 works friendliest
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> cha0s_: did you also try gnome-mplayer ?
[17:51] <HulkHogan> cha0s_: might need to install x264
[17:52] <cha0s_> when installing gnome-mplayer it said movie player was already installed and no it wouldn't play
[17:53] <HulkHogan> cha0s_: missing codec basically
[17:53] <cha0s_> x264 is installed
[17:53] <HulkHogan> cha0s_: is this a dvd?
[17:53] <cha0s_> no. file from a dvr
[17:54] <cha0s_> security camera feed
[17:54] <dr_willis> i run the video player from terminal. then play thins.  thatway i see any error messages in the terminal...
[17:54] <HulkHogan> cha0s_: what format is it?
[17:54] <dr_willis> may be some weird codec.
[17:54] <cha0s_> H264 - Mpeg-4 avc
[17:55] <cha0s_> h 264 - mpeg-4 avc (part 10) (avc1) to be exact
[17:55] <dr_willis> how did you determine thatt cha0s_ ?
[17:56] <cha0s_> because the manual for the security system dvr says it.
[17:56] <steven-> did
[17:56] <cha0s_> and there was a disc that worked with windows but since i don't have windows.........................
[17:57] <dr_willis> try 'file thevideofile' to verify the info. or rightclick on it and use properties..
[17:57] <HulkHogan> cha0s_: try running it, cvlc filename
[17:57] <dr_willis> vlc should be able to play it id think.
[17:58] <cha0s_> main access error main input error
[17:58] <HulkHogan> cha0s_: either missing codecs or ur pc too slow to run high quality videos
[17:58] <cha0s_> brand new hp 64 bit
[17:58] <ActionParsnip> cha0s_: try:  sudo apt-get install x264 libx264-123
[17:58] <dr_willis> or currupted file
[17:59] <lolcat> Where is ialibs32?!
[17:59] <cha0s_> unable to locate package
[17:59] <lolcat> I need it like a dog needs sticks!
[17:59] <dr_willis> !info x264
[18:00] <LordThumper> Is Ubuntu Server, just Ubuntu Desktop without Window Manager?
[18:00] <mN-> !info x11
[18:00] <mN-> !info x.conf
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> LordThumper: the kernel is slightly different but otherwise its the same OS
[18:00] <rhizmoe> cha0s_: type `file <your video filename>`
[18:00] <dr_willis> LordThumper:  the default kernel may be different i think.
[18:00] <mN-> How can i get 120hz in ubuntu 64bit :<
[18:00] <cha0s_> ActionParsnip: unable to locate package
[18:01] <ActionParsnip> cha0s_: which one? I gave 2
[18:01] <LordThumper> Oh I see, thanks
[18:01] <cha0s_> sudo apt-get install x264 libx264-123 only one i see
[18:02] <LordThumper> Have a Ubuntu Server VM installation, so i'll just install Gnome or something
[18:02] <asdf__> Is there an easy way to download a folder from an FTP server? I can't use sftp because SSH is blocked.
[18:02] <cha0s_> ActioParsnip: sudo apt-get install x264 libx264-123 only one i see
[18:02] <LordThumper> apt-get install gnome ?
[18:02] <rhizmoe> vlc yo
[18:02] <wilee-nilee> LordThumper, what do you want as far as desktops?
[18:02] <dr_willis> cha0s_: done a    sudo agt-get  update   recently?
[18:03] <dr_willis> apt-get update
[18:03] <LordThumper> I like the default Ubuntu UI
[18:03] <LordThumper> Oh that is Unity
[18:03] <LordThumper> right?
[18:03] <wilee-nilee> LordThumper, ubuntu-desktop
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> LordThumper: Then why install server when you want a desktop OS????
[18:04] <wilee-nilee> LordThumper, What us the release first
[18:04] <wilee-nilee> is*
[18:04] <dr_willis> asdf__: many ftp clients can do that. or wget can
[18:04] <LordThumper> I have a VM of Ubuntu Server
[18:04] <LordThumper> And I already have FTP/HTTP servers set up
[18:04] <wilee-nilee> LordThumper, Which release of the server
[18:04] <ActionParsnip> LordThumper: so why do you need the desktop?
[18:04] <asdf__> dr_willis: Whenver I use wget -r, it never works as I want it to (as I understand it, it traverses all links, rather than the filesystem itself)
[18:04] <LordThumper> Just want to install a UI, to I can do some other stuff occasionally
[18:05] <LordThumper> Let me get the version
[18:05] <asdf__> dr_willis: Any idea how I can get wget to do what I want?
[18:05] <LordThumper> so I can*
[18:05] <ActionParsnip> LordThumper: I suggest you add the boot option text so thatit boots to CLI only, for security
[18:05] <dr_willis> asdf__: try a gui frontend perhaps.. links as in  soft links? or web url links?
[18:06] <LordThumper> ActionParsnip, only the file servers are available from outside
[18:06] <LordThumper> Shell access should be restricted to local only
[18:07] <asdf__> dr_willis: Not sure exactly, I remember wget -r would always end up downloading a ton more than I wanted, and I looked it up and there was something about it looking for references within the page itself, instead of files within the directory (which is probably why it suggests you specify a depth)
[18:08] <VlanY> ActionParsnip: sorry wait a minute: is it possible that 3.5 is develop kernel since the "5" is an odd number?  If so, does 12.10 have 3.4 or 3.5 ?
[18:08] <bekks> VlanY: There are no "development kernels" anymore since 3.0
[18:09] <LordThumper> wilee-nilee: 11.10
[18:09] <VlanY> bekks: perfect, thank you :)
[18:10] <Nowaker> I was rsyncing data to my new 2x3TB raid1+luks disk. When reached 564G used space, I got "No space left on device (28)" for the first time and "Broken pipe (32)" for the second. df-h is OK (2,8T 564G 2,2T 21%), df -i too (175M 1,1M 174M 1%). Any suggestions?
[18:10] <wilee-nilee> LordThumper, 11.10 goes end of life next april does this matter.
[18:11] <LordThumper> No
[18:11] <wilee-nilee> cool
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> !info linux-image | VlanY
[18:12] <mN-> 120hz nvidia, how to get? Who knows?
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> mN-: if you use an xorg.conf file you can set the refresh rate manually.
[18:13] <dr_willis> try the nvudia-settings tool?
[18:13] <Rockah> i need some help with a webcam  newest version of ubuntu trust-wb3320x i cant get it to work just black screen
[18:14] <MonkeyDust> Rockah  have you tried cheese?
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> Rockah: run:  lsusb    use the 8 character hex ID to find guides
[18:14] <Haris> I need / /var /boot /tmp partitions. How do I tell it in seed/kickstart file ?
[18:14] <dr_willis> Rockah: tried it in "cheese" yet?
[18:14] <Rockah> whats cheese monkeysust
[18:14] <MonkeyDust> !info cheese
[18:14] <Rockah> ok ill try
[18:15] <mN-> ActionParsnip: I tried finding this xorg.conf from X11 but it wasnt there, im not sure where to find it. I am using xorg drivers however
[18:15] <dr_willis> what have you tried it in so far Rockah ?
[18:15] <MonkeyDust> !tab | Rockah and by the by,
[18:15] <Rockah> im doing it now dr_willis
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> mN-: run:  sudo nvidia-xconfig; gksudo nvidia-settings
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> mN-: set the resolution and refresh rate to something then click 'Save to X config file'
[18:16] <dr_willis> mN-: using the nvidia drivers or the noveau drivers?
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> mN-: you can then run:  gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf    and change the refresh rate
[18:17] <wilee-nilee> Rockah, I see some various info on the web here is one, maybe cheese will do it, it seems a little more is needed. http://pc-freak.net/blog/install-configure-webcam-trust-wb-3320x-live-ubuntu-debian-linux/
[18:17] <mN-> dr_willis:  yeah i was using noveau, i changed to nvidia now
[18:18] <mN-> ActionParsnip:  alright ill test it
[18:19] <L-Chymera> hi guys, I keep trying to run vpnc and I constantly get this - what's up with it? http://paste2.org/p/2408618
[18:20] <Rockah> got it Wilee
[18:20] <mN-> ActionParsnip:  it says you do not appear to be using nvidia X driver
[18:20] <ActionParsnip> mN-: did you install nvidia-current package?
[18:22] <bluesypher> Hey all
[18:22] <mN-> ActionParsnip:  settings, software sources, additional drivers, using nvidia binary xorg driver
[18:22] <mN-> ActionParsnip: ?
[18:22] <bluesypher> i have a ubuntu 3.2.0 kernel version
[18:22] <bluesypher> i ain't able to find syscall_table32.S
[18:22] <mN-> ActionParsnip: should I apt-get a new one?
[18:22] <bluesypher> basically wanted to create my own syscall
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> mN-: try the nvidia-xconfig command then reboot
[18:23] <mN-> okay
[18:24] <bluesypher> Any idea which directory does it reside?
[18:24] <ActionParsnip> bluesypher: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[18:24] <bluesypher> i heard 3.3 has a separate directory called syscalls to place this file...but sadly..none of that type in 3.2
[18:25] <bluesypher> precise
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> !info linux-image precise
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> bluesypher: sounds like a bug if you are getting issues
[18:25] <Haris> can I choose a URL on the "choose the next step in the installation process" screen ?
[18:26] <bluesypher> ActionParsnip: info:event not found
[18:26] <Haris> it says detect and mount cd
[18:26] <bluesypher> ActionParsnip: !info rather
[18:27] <bluesypher> ActionParsnip: is it a bug?
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> bluesypher: if you believe something is amiss, then yes
[18:29] <bluesypher> ActionParsnip: The thing is , if i am not able to find the syscalls_table file,how is linux able to handle them without using that file?
[18:29] <Haris> install centos's kickstart files, I can specify a url from where network install takes places. Can I do the same in ubuntu's seed files ?
[18:31] <MonkeyDust> bluesypher  does locate syscalls|less make you any wiser?
[18:32] <Nowaker> I was rsyncing data to my new 2x3TB raid1+luks disk. When reached 564G used space, I got "No space left on device (28)" for the first time and "Broken pipe (32)" for the second. df-h is OK (2,8T 564G 2,2T 21%), df -i too (175M 1,1M 174M 1%). Any suggestions?
[18:32] <bluesypher> MonkeyDust: Nopes ..already tried it
[18:32] <Haris> guys ?
[18:36] <EtgarDizz> hello
[18:36] <bluesypher> EtgarDizz: Hi
[18:36] <EtgarDizz> i'm wondering if there's someone here that can help with a unity lens issue??
[18:37] <savio> EtgarDizz, ask your question if anyone knows he/she can answer
[18:38] <EtgarDizz> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12326838
[18:38] <dr_willis> a small summary is a good idea EtgarDizz
[18:40] <vfw> Nowaker: fdisk -l |pastebinit
[18:40] <cuore> ls
[18:40] <vfw> Nowaker: df -h |pastebinit
[18:40] <Nowaker> vfw:  2,8T  582G  2,2T  21%,   175M   1,1M   174M    1%
[18:41] <Nowaker> so both df -h and df -i are good
[18:42] <EtgarDizz> i see :) well the problem is i'm trying to make a modification to an existing scope, to make it appear under a specific lens and not in the global search
[18:42] <Nowaker> vfw: fdisk not good, as I have a GPT parttable
[18:42] <EtgarDizz> and it's not working...
[18:43] <vincent_> exit
[18:43] <EtgarDizz> it still comes up in the global search
[18:43] <wilee-nilee> EtgarDizz, You have to have some patience.
[18:44] <EtgarDizz> wilee-nilee, in regard to what?
[18:44] <wilee-nilee> !patience | EtgarDizz
[18:45] <EtgarDizz> ubottu, i wasn't being impatient, i was trying to add some more information so it would be clearer what i'm trying to do / what the problem is
[18:46] <EtgarDizz> ok, this chat room is starting to freak me out
[18:47] <Nowaker> vfw: looks like it's just a bug in rsync, that can't handle partitions more than ~~570G. I was able to dd if=/dev/zero of=/mnt/disk/file.tmp more than 20G for now, so...
[18:47] <EtgarDizz> had a MUCH better experience here last time...
[18:48] <EtgarDizz> btw - is there a dedicated unity chat room? i tried #unity but that's for something copletely different
[18:48] <vfw> Nowaker: So... maybe just use dd ? or...?  I dono
[18:49] <Nowaker> vfw: will just use `cp` instead of rsync
[18:49] <vfw> Nowaker: Yea, there you go.
[18:49] <Nowaker> the messages were just misleading, no space left on device suggests something different... ;-)
[18:49] <Nowaker> guess I need to file a bug in rsync bugtracker
[18:50] <Haris> after asking for keyboard layout, ubuntu comes back to me complaining that it couldn't mount installation cdrom. I'm doing a network install via a ks/seed file. How do I make the installer understand that its going to have to contact a http mirror to get the files ?
[18:50] <Haris> can 11.10 be installed via network ?
[18:50] <wilee-nilee> !pxe
[18:50] <Haris> please help
[18:51] <Haris> I have setup the pxe via cobbler with 11.10-server
[18:51] <trism> EtgarDizz: try #ubuntu-unity
[18:51] <gsr> EtgarDizz, try #ubuntu-devel
[18:51] <Haris> I just can't get it to (1) find installation source (i.e., network url) and (2) network interface configuration
[18:51] <mN-> dr_willis:  hey i have this nvidia now, i can only set 100hz
[18:51] <mN-> dr_willis:  how can i put 120hz?
[18:51] <Haris> the installer that is
[18:51] <Haris> what's missing ?
[18:52] <vfw> Nowaker: Maybe so, I don't konw, (don't have enough info to make an inteligent assesment).
[18:52] <osse> /etc/default/locale is set to en_CA.UTF-8 but still when I SSH in to my server from putty my $LANG is empty. How can I find out why that is so?
[18:53] <Haris> any ideas guys ?
[18:54] <unrar> If I install ubuntu-desktop on Xubuntu, I'll have Unity also as a DE?
[18:54] <Nowaker> osse: update-locale after setting it?
[18:54] <mN-> How can I get 120hz, nvidia, I can only set 100hz? Anybody know?
[18:54] <wilee-nilee> unrar, yes
[18:54] <Haris> I can't get ubuntu installed yet. can't get ubuntu installer to look at work location for installation
[18:54] <Haris> how do I do that ?
[18:54] <Nowaker> also, when it still doesn't work, you always have ~/.profile, ~/.bashrc or sth like that
[18:54] <wilee-nilee> unrar, What release are you running though?
[18:55] <unrar> I'm on Ubuntu 12.04 + xubuntu-desktop
[18:55] <unrar> I don't know if stick here, install Ubuntu 12.10 + xubuntu-desktop or Xubuntu 12.10 and maybe ubuntu-desktop
[18:55] <Haris> wilee-nilee: any ideas ?
[18:55] <wilee-nilee> unrar, Cool that will load the unity desktop with a ubuntu-desktop install.
[18:55] <osse> Nowaker: doesn't that just update /etc/default/locale? That file is correct as it stands.
[18:55] <unrar> What do you recommend me?
[18:55] <Haris> !pxe
[18:56] <wilee-nilee> unrar, A massage and a cold beer. ;)
[18:56] <Nowaker> osse: /etc/default/* are just templates, and they are used to regenerate real config files. therefore, you need to `update-locale`.
[18:56] <unrar> haha
[18:57] <L3top> Haris: you can add the location to the top sources.list and update... it will draw from there first... and hash out the cd-rom line if it is there... if I understand you correctly
[18:57] <inxtoEugene> funny right?
[18:57] <unrar> I tried Ubuntu 12.10 and it has lots of bugs
[18:57] <wilee-nilee> unrar, as far as desktops you basically have to find what you like I use gnome 3 myself.
[18:57] <unrar> I want to use XFCE mainly and Unity sometimes
[18:57] <Nowaker> osse: and when it doesn't work, you always have your shell rc where set whatever envvars you want
[18:57] <L3top> Haris: it will have to have a Packages file etc...
[18:57] <unrar> But dunno if on precise or quantal
[18:57] <mN-> How can I get 120hz, nvidia, I can only set 100hz? Anybody know?
[18:58] <vfw> unrar: Ubuntu 12.04-LTS with xubuntu-desktop is good.
[18:58] <osse> Nowaker: indeed. I'm just curious why I get an empty $LANG when I don't explicitly set it myself.
[18:58] <unrar> Yes, it's what i'm using vfw
[18:58] <Haris> L3top: Is that some place in the seed file ? what would be the keyword ? I'v set a mirror to a local box on the network. that doesn't seem to be it
[18:58] <vfw> unrar: If I were you, I'd stick with LTS
[18:58] <unrar> Great
[18:58] <inxtoEugene> It gets even better
[18:58] <cuore_> hey .. i'm using ubuntu 11.04 in classic mode nd using compiz  . will i loose the configuration of compiz if i upgrade toubuntu  11.10 thX :)
[18:58] <unrar> On 12.10 the notification popups show a bar
[18:59] <Bsims> I am looking for out of the box Just Works for wifi cards, any particular brand to get?
[18:59] <vfw> cuore_: You might but can be fixed.
[18:59] <Nowaker> osse: I have one answer for that - ubuntu is evil, go arch linux :)
[18:59] <osse> haha
[18:59] <Nowaker> there is surely a right place where you should set it... :)
[18:59] <wilee-nilee> cuore_, YOU have to do a end of life upgrade not a regular one 11.04 is not supported as of now. 11.10 goes eol in april as well,
[19:00] <L3top> Haris: it is not the seed file... but you can also do things with the seed files. Again, your mirror must have a Packages file, and in order to grab MOST of its needs from there, it must be first in the list. I am not exactly clear on what youa re doing... however if it is complaining about reading the CD, usually this is because of the cd rom entry in sources.list. How did you setup your mirror?
[19:00] <Haris> L3top: I can open a shell in ubuntu installer. But I don't know where the sources.list file is during install
[19:00] <L3top> Haris: /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:00] <unrar> And ringtail comes on april, yay
[19:00] <Haris> I'm trying to install 11.10 from network via pxe on a box
[19:00] <unrar> How were the J and K editions named?
[19:01] <L3top> that is a tad different Haris.
[19:01] <L3top> Haris: it is pxe booting?
[19:01] <Haris> I setup the mirror/pxe via cobbler
[19:01] <Haris> yes
[19:01] <Haris> Installation starts fine
[19:02] <L3top> okey doke... then try changing the sources.list... I am unfamiliar with cobbler... I have only done these things manually.
[19:03] <Haris> it just automates the same thing i.e., setup of pxe
[19:03] <Haris> I need to know 2 things
[19:03] <Haris> (1) how to make the installer pickup files from network for install
[19:04] <Haris> (2) how to make the network accessible
[19:04] <Haris> these things should auto be done via ks file
[19:04] <Haris> ks is configured for dhcp
[19:04] <wilee-nilee> Bsims, There is a certified card wiki
[19:04] <Guest25222> hi there
[19:04] <Bsims> wilee-nilee: Ok
[19:05] <wilee-nilee> Bsims, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported  personally I have not found one that does not work, but I only bought two usb type.
[19:05] <wilee-nilee> I forget the names of them though
[19:06] <ASHER1> why ftp in ubuntu 10.04 no work like some later system
[19:06] <Haris> it won't write /etc/apt/sources.list during install
[19:07] <Bsims> wilee-nilee: heh I can state the usb wifi cards from netgear sold by walmart are junk
[19:08] <wilee-nilee> Bsims, Not sure I would buy anything at walmart there treatment of their employees alone would stop me, that business is owned by people in the top 10 of forbes true evil.
[19:09] <Bsims> wilee-nilee: it was open at 11pm
[19:09] <gatsby7> hi there
[19:12] <ASHER1> someone can explain to me why in ubuntu 10.04 no work good the ftp?
[19:13] <ikonia> no work good the ftp ? what ?
[19:13] <ikonia> please try to explain the problem
[19:13] <seanh> Hey, does any know what will happen if I upgrade an Ubuntu server (10.04 - 12.04) in this situation: on 10.04 I have a third party apt repo in sources.list and a package 'jenkins' installed from that repo. There's no jenkins package in the default 10.04 repos. 12.04 does have a package called jenkins in its default repos. It's an older version of jenkins that the one I currently have installed from a third party repo. What will Ubuntu try to do w
[19:13] <seanh> ith this package if I do do-release-upgrade?
[19:13] <ikonia> seanh: potentially break the upgrade and leave your system unusable
[19:14] <Bsims> seanh: Odds are it will simply upgrade it
[19:14] <ikonia> no it won't
[19:14] <ikonia> as it's an older version so the dependencies will be out
[19:14] <ikonia> and the chances are the repo that held the newer versions has created conflicting dependencies to meet the newer versionm
[19:14] <ikonia> version
[19:14] <wilee-nilee> seanh, Clone what you have if you try if you can, you want a backup.
[19:16] <Bsims> seanh: simply do apt-get remove jenkins... do the upgrade, then reinstall it
[19:16] <ikonia> no
[19:16] <Bsims> or you can pin it to the current version you have
[19:16] <ikonia> that wont fix any dependencies
[19:16] <aquethys> Hello, I have an Hp Pavilion dv6-7043cl. I'm tying to install 12.10 Quantal Quetzal. First, can I install 64 bit on this computer? Do I burn the iso image I download onto a blank DVD? With what? Then do I just reboot with the CD?
[19:17] <ikonia> seanh: I stronghly advise you not to follow what Bsims is suggesting
[19:17] <Terrabull> is any version of Ubuntu compatible with the Asus P8z77 mobo?
[19:17] <ikonia> Terrabull: resarch the chipsets
[19:17] <Haris> can ubuntu automated install be done through kickstart files ?
[19:17] <cuore>  hey i'm using ubuntu 11.04 callic mode with compiz .. will i lose compiz configuration if not will compiz work fine with unity ? thx:)
[19:17] <ikonia> yes
[19:17] <Haris> kickstart as in kickstart rather than seed files
[19:17] <Bsims> ikonia: the new apt-get install foo will pull the current depends will it not?
[19:17] <ikonia> cuore: correct
[19:17] <ASHER1> in guide who install ftp i see is did good restart and start but if i try install ftp in ubuntu 10.04 this no look is install good
[19:18] <ikonia> Bsims: no
[19:18] <wilee-nilee> !eol | cuore
[19:18] <cuore> i meant " classic not ' callic " sorry
[19:18] <ikonia> Bsims: not if there is a conflict which is likely as it's a newer version than the official repos
[19:18] <Terrabull> ikonia: im getting mixed results. cant find a straight answer from google OR the asus support site.
[19:19] <Haris> guys ? hello ?
[19:19] <Bsims> ikonia: Ah, that is why I was suggesting removing the version from the third party repo, then doing the upgrade, then installing the version from universe
[19:19] <ikonia> Terrabull: then you'll get mixed answers here, don't look at the asus site, find the chipsets on the board and resarch their compatability individuallyu
[19:19] <wilee-nilee> cuore, If it were me I would install 12.04 it i supported for 5 years, you could dualboot it right now and grab our stuff while setting it up.
[19:19] <ikonia> Haris: what ?
[19:19] <wilee-nilee> your*
[19:19] <ikonia> Bsims: yes, but that won't fix it
[19:19] <ikonia> Bsims: the dependencies will STILL be there
[19:20] <ikonia> Bsims: removing the package won't remove the depends
[19:20] <Bsims> No, but it will upgrade the depends if they are in Multi/Universe
[19:20] <seanh> ikonia: Bsims wilee-nilee I guess I'll uninstall jenkins, remove the third-party repo from sources.list, sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get autoremove, then do-release-upgrade, then apt-get install jenkins from the 12.04 repos, then I'll probably have to recreate all my jenkins config
[19:20] <ikonia> Bsims: no it won't
[19:20] <ikonia> Bsims: not if they are conflict or newer
[19:20] <Haris> kickstart as in kickstart rather than seed files. kickstart as in kickstart rather than seed files
[19:20] <Haris> oops
[19:20] <ikonia> Bsims: which is likley as the 3rd party version is NEWER than the official one
[19:20] <seanh> ikonia: If I remove the package and then do apt-get update and apt-get autoremove, that might remove the dependencies?
[19:21] <Haris> can ubuntu automated install be done through kickstart files ? kickstart as in kickstart rather than seed files.
[19:21] <ikonia> seanh: no
[19:21] <wilee-nilee> seanh, Back it up first is all I will say here.
[19:21] <ikonia> Haris: as in "kickstart"
[19:21] <wilee-nilee> seanh, Uh and follow ikonia
[19:21] <Haris> the centos kickstart files
[19:21] <gatsby7> hi there, is there any postfix guru here? ;)
[19:21] <OerHeks> seanh, use ppa-purge to remove that ppa and reverse the installation
[19:21] <ikonia> Haris: centos kickstart files won't work as they are for centos
[19:22] <Bsims> gatsby7: ew postfix? why not use something sensible like exim
[19:22] <ikonia> Bsims: there is nothing wrong with postfix
[19:22] <Haris> is that seed files for ubuntu automated installs or do we also call them kickstart files ?
[19:22] <seanh> OerHeks: it's not a ppa I don't think
[19:22] <gatsby7> hi Bsims ;) is a company choiche
[19:22] <ikonia> Haris: how many times kickstart files !
[19:22] <Bsims> ikonia: mark it down as similar to emacs vs vi
[19:22] <ikonia> Bsims: not really
[19:22] <Haris> ok
[19:23] <seanh> It seems like I need to remove the third-party repo and any packages installed from that repo, then do the OS upgrade, surely that should be safe?
[19:23] <Bsims> gatsby7: not a clue I'd try #debian or #ubuntu-server
[19:23] <ikonia> seanh: that will minimise risk
[19:23] <Bsims> seanh: yeah that sounds reasonable
[19:23] <unrar> What happens if I install 10.10, which isn't no longer supported?
[19:23] <unrar> I just want to try it on Virtualbox
[19:23] <gatsby7> maybe ur right, just tried #postfix too... but no way 2 find a solution
[19:23] <Haris> I need a sample, working kickstart to understand
[19:23] <unrar> There aren't updates or what?
[19:24] <ikonia> unrar: nothing will happen, in terms of updates
[19:24] <Haris> kickstart file for a basic install, that picks up files from a local box that has 11.10 extracted from iso on it
[19:24] <seanh> ikonia: Bsims OerHeks Do you know how I can uninstall all packages installed from that repo?
[19:24] <unrar> So the repositories for the unsupported versions are frozen
[19:24] <unrar> Aren't them?
[19:25] <ikonia> unrar: they are dead
[19:25] <unrar> okay
[19:25] <ikonia> seanh: you'll have to look at the depends on your software and see what it pulls in
[19:25] <strasfaskta> can i upgrade ubuntu 12.04 LTS to 12.10 directly through the updater prgram without reinstall?
[19:25] <Haris> ikonia: any help ?
[19:25] <strasfaskta> i mean via internet
[19:25] <ikonia> strasfaskta: yes
[19:25] <ikonia> Haris: no
[19:25] <Haris> ?
[19:26] <ikonia> Haris: "no" as in "no help"
[19:26] <strasfaskta> thanks !
[19:26] <Bsims> seanh: you want ppa-purge
[19:26] <Haris> I need to perform one automated install of ubuntu 11.10
[19:26] <Haris> need help with it
[19:26] <Haris> where can I get help with automated installs of ubuntu ?
[19:27] <wilee-nilee> strasfaskta, 12.04 has longer support the 12.10 is all.
[19:27] <ikonia> Haris: this channel is the official support channel, so a good start
[19:27] <inxtoEugene> Does ubuntu compete with Microsoft students?
[19:27] <ikonia> complete ?
[19:27] <ikonia> what
[19:28] <BluesKaj> students?
[19:28] <steven-> how do I get source codes from exntensions.gnome.org?
[19:28] <inxtoEugene> do we not all use a computer
[19:28] <steven-> extensions sources
[19:28] <inxtoEugene> for reasons
[19:28] <inxtoEugene> or should i stop talking
[19:28] <ikonia> inxtoEugene: do you have a real question ?
[19:28] <OerHeks> Haris, maybe this preseeding manual is any help > https://help.ubuntu.com/11.10/installation-guide/i386/preseed-intro.html
[19:28] <inxtoEugene> i appologize
[19:29] <lorenzo_> Hi people
[19:29] <lorenzo_> I've a problem with xubuntu 12.04
[19:29] <squaregoldfish> For the last couple of weeks Youtube videos in Chrome have been horribly slow (~1fps). Fine in Firefox. I'm completely out of ideas, so I'm asking here for suggestions...?
[19:29] <inxtoEugene> what exactly is ubuntu?
[19:29] <trism> steven-: if you already installed the extension, I would guess it is in ~/.local/share/gnome-shell/extensions/
[19:29] <wilee-nilee> lorenzo_, State it. ;)
[19:30] <steven-> trism, thank you, but thats the thing, i can't install the extension, now i wanna check the source code why
[19:30] <ikonia> inxtoEugene: a linux distribution, read ubuntu.com
[19:30] <lorenzo_> ??
[19:30] <BluesKaj> !ubuntu | inxtoEugene00
[19:30] <wilee-nilee> lorenzo_, State your problem. ;)
[19:30] <trism> steven-: point me to the extension and I'll look
[19:30] <lorenzo_> it simple lags like hell
[19:31] <lorenzo_> it lags like eòò
[19:31] <wilee-nilee> lorenzo_, What is the cpu and ram?
[19:31] <lorenzo_> hell
[19:32] <lorenzo_> ram 512 mb cpu more than 700 mHz
[19:32] <lorenzo_> i use it 'cause my real pc has got a problem
[19:32] <wilee-nilee> lorenzo_, Rather low to run efficiently, you might try installing lxde
[19:32] <lorenzo_> ok hnx
[19:32] <lorenzo_> thx
[19:33] <lorenzo_> i'll install it asap
[19:34] <Forty-3> I use fedora normally; what's the apt equivlant to 'yum what-provides file'?
[19:34] <lorenzo_> however one of you knows what is  eOs Luna release data
[19:34] <ikonia> apt-file
[19:34] <Forty-3> k
[19:34] <aquethys> Hello, I have an Hp Pavilion dv6-7043cl. I'm tying to install 12.10 Quantal Quetzal. First, can I install 64 bit on this computer? Do I burn the iso image I download onto a blank DVD? With what? Then do I just reboot with the CD?
[19:34] <ikonia> lorenzo_: luna is nothing to do with ubuntu or this channel
[19:34] <ikonia> !install | aquethys
[19:34] <lorenzo_> is based on it
[19:35] <lorenzo_> sorry for spam
[19:35] <ikonia> lorenzo_: but it's not it, so this channel is nothing to do with it
[19:35] <lorenzo_> ok but i've asked only for an information
[19:35] <wols_> then please ask elsewhere, where it's in topic. ##linux maybe
[19:35] <ikonia> lorenzo_: yes and this channel does not provide it
[19:36] <wilee-nilee> aquethys, That computer is a 64 bit, burn the ISO as an image.
[19:36] <steven-> trism, https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/495/topicons/ that one
[19:37] <wilee-nilee> aquethys, Use a live cd and boot it to the desktop, do you ahev W7 on it?
[19:37] <goat777face> aquethys: burn it as an iso image, one you boot from DVD drive it will be smooth sailing ;)
[19:37] <wilee-nilee> have*
[19:37] <aquethys> @wilee - any good programs to burn the iso with?
[19:37] <Debolaz> Hrmm, /me ponders going back to 12.04 due to all the empathy bugs.
[19:37] <Debolaz> A shame, because I really love the webapps feature.
[19:37] <MonkeyDust> !burn > aquethys
[19:37] <ikonia> aquethys: read the link ubottu have you
[19:37] <wilee-nilee> aquethys, In windows imageburn is good but I believe it has a stock burner.
[19:37] <ikonia> aquethys: it's all covered in the install guide if you actually read it
[19:38] <wols_> Debolaz: couldn't you downgrade just empathy then?
[19:38] <saquib> :)
[19:38] <saquib> :-)
[19:39] <wilee-nilee> aquethys, You want to be aware of some limitations in the amount of and types of partitions if you are dualbooting, as as have a full image of gthe windows if you have it to be safe here.
[19:40] <inxtoEugene> is aol still on line?
[19:41] <ikonia> inxtoEugene: that is nothing to do with this channel
[19:41] <ikonia> inxtoEugene: this channel support ubuntu discussion only
[19:41] <Ubuntu_love> is there any way to make a atx to hook up to a serial header to make a restore to factory defualt settings in ubuntu??
[19:42] <inxtoEugene> Ikonia: no means for irrelevancy, but where can I find rooms?
[19:42] <ikonia> freenode.net
[19:42] <wilee-nilee> Ubuntu_love, You might just address your problem, there is no full system restore to stock.
[19:43] <Ubuntu_love> i am bullding a WAP controller that uses an ITX board. is there any way to make a atx to hook up to a serial header to make a restore to factory defualt settings in ubuntu??
[19:44] <Ubuntu_love> i am bullding a WAP controller that uses an ITX board. is there any way to make an atx reset button to hook up to a serial header to make a restore to factory defualt settings in ubuntu??
[19:44] <ikonia> Ubuntu_love: that is way beyond the scope of this channel
[19:46] <manolos> Hi. Can i ask something about ubuntu 12.10 minimal installation x64?
[19:46] <wilee-nilee> manolos, yes
[19:46] <Ubuntu_love> ikonia: really?
[19:46] <goat777face> Manalos, go ahaed
[19:46] <manolos> thanks :) well my problem is that i cant install. there are conflicts
[19:46] <manolos> w8 to post my url image
[19:47] <ikonia> Ubuntu_love: a button that interacts with firmware to deploy a reset to default...yeah
[19:47] <manolos> https://www.dropbox.com/s/ann9lcop3t7jm50/mini64.png
[19:47] <manolos> you can see from the image that there are same packages with i386 and x86_64
[19:47] <goat777face> Sorry, can't read greek
[19:48] <manolos> and they conflict
[19:48] <manolos> sorry for greek language.
[19:48] <wilee-nilee> manolos, aptitude is deprecated
[19:49] <wilee-nilee> It does not work fully with the setup now
[19:49] <manolos> oh. so i have only the i386 option for now?
[19:49] <auronandace> !aptitude | manolos
[19:50] <manolos> thank you very much. :)
[19:50] <bekks> manolos: No. Use spt-get insteasd of aptitude.
[19:51] <manolos> well i dont know how to do that. i just have the option to hit "g" and install the packages that i want
[19:51] <bekks> sudo apt-get install packagename
[19:52] <manolos> i know that but the minimal install image is automatic
[19:52] <manolos> you have a list with thing to do but you cant access terminal
[19:52] <bekks> ?
[19:52] <bekks> You can always install packages manually, using apt-get
[19:53] <manolos> there is no option of terminal usege before i install the base of ubuntu
[19:53] <manolos> and i cant even install the base
[19:54] <wilee-nilee> manolos, You can install the base, then when done reboot to a cli and install what you want.
[19:54] <bekks> manolos: Well, without having a base Ubuntu installed, you cant even use aptitude.
[19:55] <auronandace> bekks: he is attempting to install using the mini.iso which uses aptitude by default
[19:55] <manolos> i think i get it now! sorry for my noobish questions. ill try again. hope it will work! thanks again
[19:55] <wilee-nilee> auronandace, In 12.10?
[19:56] <auronandace> wilee-nilee: thats what it sounds like to me
[19:56] <wilee-nilee> auronandace, I have never see aptitude in the mini myself.
[19:57] <wilee-nilee> as far as the straight install choices it is a tick the box you want.
[19:57] <auronandace> wilee-nilee: maybe i got it wrong then, sorry
[19:58] <lappy> Hello everyone!  I'm trying to dual boot windows 7 and ubuntu 12.10.  I've picked out where to put my / and /home, but I don't know what to select when it asks me where to put the device boot loader installation.  Does anyone have a suggestion for me?
[19:58] <wilee-nilee> lappy, If this is a msdos partitioning setup in the mbr
[19:59] <lappy> wilee-nilee: How do I know where the mbr is?
[19:59] <wilee-nilee> lappy, What is the HD sda sdb?
[20:00] <Guest11210> how do i setup multiple languges in my ubuntu__
[20:00] <Guest11210> |??
[20:01] <wilee-nilee> lappy, what is the / partition?
[20:01] <Guest11210> how do i setup multiple languges in mz ubuntu??
[20:01] <lappy> wilee-nilee: sda is a 32GB SSD where I'm going to install /.  It's also the location of the windows 7 (loader).
[20:01] <Ubuntu_love> is there a way to cross/trigger rx tx on a serial header so  ubuntu will pick it up and do a function?
[20:02] <lappy> sdb is where my /home folder and windows 7 install are.
[20:02] <wilee-nilee> lappy, Put the bootloader in sda no partition number sda is the mbr
[20:02] <wilee-nilee> lappy, Hold on you have ubuntu split root in one HD and home in anaiother?
[20:02] <Ubuntu_love> is there a way to cross/trigger rx tx on a serial header so  ubuntu will pick it up and do a function?
[20:03] <lappy> wilee-nilee:  Yes, I've put my / on the SSD and /home on a HDD.
[20:03] <BluesKaj> !patience > Ubuntu_love
[20:03] <wilee-nilee> lappy, The bootloader would go in sda then
[20:03] <wilee-nilee> no partition number
[20:04] <lappy> Ok, and just to be clear.  That's /dev/sda and NOT /dev/sda1 (which it says is Windows 7 loader)?
[20:04] <smerch> Hello everyone. I'm using ubuntu 12.10 and I have an issue with full-screen apps (games). When I change down resolution the picture looks stretched and not fit on  screen. Can anyone confirm that?
[20:04] <wilee-nilee> lappy, exactly, never put grub in a windows partition, the mbr is always just those 3 letters no partition number.
[20:05] <lappy> Alright, I appreciate the help wilee-nilee.  This has kind of been a pain to set up, so thank you!
[20:05] <dr_willis> smerch: some lcds have settings on how to zoom when displaying stuff that is not the native res of the lcd.
[20:06] <dr_willis> smerch: what gam
[20:06] <wilee-nilee> lappy, no problem, I assuming this is not a uefi partitioning as well.
[20:06] <wilee-nilee> I'm*
[20:06] <smerch> dr_willis: oolite
[20:07] <dr_willis> !info oolite
[20:07] <lappy> wilee-nilee:  I'm not really sure how I would check that.  But I don't think that it is.
[20:07] <dr_willis> hmm. not seen that one.
[20:07] <jagginess> anyone knows if I have to use rc.local to issue brctl statements? I'd like to use auto br0 in my interfaces file (debian/ubuntu /etc/network/interfaces)
[20:07] <wilee-nilee> lappy, You could open a terminal and run sudo fdisk -lu and pastebin the text.
[20:08] <dr_willis> try setting the game to use the native res of the display would be best smerch
[20:09] <llutz> jagginess: can't you setup bridging-stuff with a script in /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/  i?
[20:09] <wilee-nilee> lappy, here is a uefi wiki even better https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI#Identifying_if_the_computer_boots_the_HDD_in_EFI_mode
[20:10] <lappy> wilee-nilee: here's the pastebin. http://pastebin.com/pWBKbtVH
[20:11] <bbtest2> bbtest
[20:11] <wilee-nilee> lappy, I'm not real up on uefi, but I think you are okay.
[20:11] <smerch> dr_willis: true. but due to my video card (gma 950) I prefer to lover resolution settings. the thing is that on 12.04 all was fine. I'm thinking about bug.
[20:11] <lappy> Well that's reassuring.  I'm installing now so hopefully it'll work out alright.
[20:12] <StFS> Hi. I installed packages locally that have a newer version number than the same package in the repo, but now I want to go back and install the repo version back again... is there a convenient way to tell apt to install repo packages over locally installed packages even though those have a newer version?
[20:13] <ikonia> StFS: not really
[20:13] <jrib> StFS: did you happen to use a ppa?
[20:13] <ikonia> you'll probably have problems if the newer packages have installed dependencies
[20:14] <wilee-nilee> lappy, Hehe, It is just that with newer computers now and W8 being released we are seeing uefi setups a little more often, and gpt setups as well, so I try to make sure I'm a bit aware of what is up, I have just not had a computer with either of those setups so I have not had to learn the critical info.
[20:14] <Ubuntu_love> is there a way to cross/trigger rx tx on a serial header so  ubuntu will pick it up and do a function?
[20:14] <ikonia> Ubuntu_love: not really
[20:14] <ikonia> Ubuntu_love: you'd have to write a daemon to listen for those calls
[20:15] <StFS> jrib: well... the packages come from some ppa but I installed them locally with dpkg -i <a list of .deb files>
[20:15] <jrib> StFS: do you not have internet access on the machine or something?  Why did you do it that way?
[20:15] <lappy> wilee-nilee, I hope the whole UEFI thing isn't going to make new linux installs/dualbooting too difficult.
[20:16] <wilee-nilee> lappy, Only with amd setups the uefi is locked a intel setup is just a little different, as I understand it.
[20:16] <loadid__> i can't imagine it's going to try and make it easier
[20:17] <lappy> Alright.  Well, I'm gonna restart and see if I installed this thing properly.  If I'm back on in a few, then I probably screwed it up.
[20:17] <dr_willis> class action lawsuit to have the venders open it up. :-P
[20:17] <wilee-nilee> dr_willis, show me where to sign. ;)
[20:18] <dr_willis> raspberrypi.org wilee-nilee   ;-)    kidding....
[20:19] <wilee-nilee> hehe thats about my speed. ;)
[20:20] <inxtoEugene> How would you be able to format your own text streams on ubuntu?
[20:20] <StFS> jrib: good question... I just got the URL to the page with the .deb files... didn't really know I could do it another way
[20:21] <Bsims> inxtoEugene: what do you mean format text streams?
[20:21] <jrib> StFS: well if you add the ppa, then you can try using ppa-purge to remove it and it will try to downgrade the packages in it
[20:21] <dr_willis> inxtoEugene: text streams  meaning what exactly?
[20:22] <inxtoEugene> dr_willis: how you perceive your own text
[20:23] <dr_willis> thats...even more vague ....
[20:23] <dr_willis> :)
[20:24] <Bsims> inxtoEugene: lets try this another way... what exactly are you trying to do
[20:24] <lappy> wilee-nilee, after a restart my laptop boots straight into win7.  No grub or anything.
[20:24] <lappy> Any idea why it's not working, or what I could do to fix it?
[20:24] <Bsims> lappy: where did you install grub?
[20:25] <wilee-nilee> lappy, You booting from the ssd is it first in the bios
[20:26] <lappy> Bsims: I selected sda for boot loader installation.  sdb is a seperate hdd.
[20:26] <lappy> wilee-nilee, I'm not sure to be honest.  Should I restart and check?
[20:26] <Bsims> lappy: Hrm, does windows have its bootloader on sdb?
[20:27] <wilee-nilee> lappy, Yeah you want the ssd to be first read
[20:27]  * Bsims ran into that once upon a time
[20:27] <delac> does the user-theme-extension still require compiling the glib schema on 12.10?
[20:27] <lappy> Bsims, I don't know.  Do you know how I could check that?
[20:27] <Bsims> lappy: Ok you have two hds correct?
[20:28] <Bsims> does your linux and windows installs share a drive?
[20:28] <lappy> Bsims: Yes, I have an SSD and a HDD.  I want / on the SSD and win7 and /home on HDD.
[20:29] <lappy> wilee-nilee, I will check on that and let you know.
[20:29] <wilee-nilee> lappy, Reboot to the bios and move the ssd on top of the sdb, first to be read.
[20:29] <lappy> Alright, rebooting now.
[20:29] <dr_willis> either drive could be the boot drive. but the ssd would be faster.
[20:30] <Bsims> true
[20:30] <dr_willis> i have the same setup here.
[20:30] <Bsims> I'm thinking its a boot order problem
[20:30] <dr_willis> i keep ubuntu and grub on tge ssd
[20:30] <wilee-nilee> dr_jesus, I figured that his windows with the bootflag is on the ssd as well, I suspect the sdb windows has all the windows bootfiles as well.
[20:31] <Bsims> I ran into that, I fixed it by having windows on a second drive and aiming grub to the second hd
[20:31] <dr_willis> many pcs have a ket at boot to get to a hd boot menu these days
[20:31] <Bsims> dr_willis: yeah f12 on dells isn't it?
[20:31] <dr_willis> del. esc. f8.   on my 3 pca
[20:32] <wilee-nilee> HP?
[20:32] <dr_willis> i always put a sticker near the key when i get a new pc.   ;-)
[20:33] <dr_willis> netbooks is esc or f1. asus is del.
[20:33] <dr_willis> f8 on my hp.
[20:35] <lappy> wilee-nilee & Bsims:  I'm back.  BIOS does have the SSD set to boot before the HDD, so that's not the problem.
[20:35] <lappy> Also, not sure if this matters, but the bios has UEFI turned on.
[20:35] <qjcuzo> hey
[20:36] <Bsims> lappy: Ok... Hrm, try installing grub to the second hd, that way it /has/ to read grub first
[20:36] <pepe__> hi
[20:36] <stephan123> hey quick question.  I have a zip file that I need to unzip and keep the directory structure.   when I "$unzip file.zip"   I get the directorys   but not the files in them.
[20:36] <qjcuzo> what's everybody doing
[20:36] <wilee-nilee> lappy, Ah, UEFI no biggie you just need someone who knows UEFI, I saw them on just a few minutes ago.
[20:36] <Bsims> I've not ran into bootloader wars like this before so its just a guess
[20:36] <pepe__> hill all people
[20:37] <lappy> Bsims, when you say install grub do you mean reinstall and choose sdb for bootloader installation?
[20:38] <Bsims> lappy: correct, though a full reinstall isn't needed, I think the command is grub-install
[20:38] <Bsims> http://blog.lokonopa.com/grub-up-windows-7/
[20:39] <lappy> Ok, I'll read the link and give that a try.
[20:39] <wilee-nilee> Bsims, This is a UEFI setup are you even familiar with that booting scenario?
[20:40] <Bsims> wilee-nilee: ouch didn't see that part
[20:40] <wilee-nilee> Bsims, cool, lappy That link is not what you need.
[20:40] <lappy> Well darn :/
[20:40] <Bsims> though there is a program called boot-repair will that do it?
[20:41] <wilee-nilee> lappy, This channel is not the best for UEFI stuff, make a thread at the ubuntu forums there are more there that know and are on daily looking for this stuff.
[20:41] <delac> adwaita theme glitches on 12.10. Gedit has black background under tabs. Any known fix?
[20:41] <lappy> wilee-nilee, I'll go do that right now.
[20:42] <wilee-nilee> I only know of two users I see on here that can help, that I have seen,
[20:42] <lappy> wilee-nilee & Bsims, I appreciate both of you trying to help me.  Have a nice day, guys.
[20:43] <throwed54> Have a problem, installed the latest Ubuntu last night, dual boo with win7 From DVDR. The partition allocation wasnt very clear to me, I ended up giving Ubuntu wayyyy too much and not enough for Windows 7. how can I change it?
[20:43] <Bsims> throwed54: use gparted to resize the partitions
[20:44] <wilee-nilee> throwed54, You can resize the ubuntu with a live cd and use the windows partitioner to expand into any unallocated next to it.
[20:44] <throwed54> gparted?
[20:44] <jagginess> anyone here using a bridging device?
[20:44] <hipaso> hello
[20:45] <Bsims> throwed54: its the program used to resize partitions
[20:45] <wilee-nilee> throwed54, Boot the ubuntu live cd open gparted and take a screen shot and imagebin it.
[20:45] <throwed54> sorry I have to wake up first, to do this with a clear mind. just got out of bed
[20:46]  * Bsims dccs throwed54 some coffee
[20:46] <wilee-nilee> throwed54, Cool ubuntu has to be unmounted to resize it is all, windows can do it from the running OS.
[20:46] <throwed54> ok how do I do it from windows?
[20:46] <throwed54> since im in windows now
[20:47] <hipaso> have a problem with xubuntu 12.10..the machine block...the display stop.. anyone can help me?..thanks
[20:47] <wilee-nilee> throwed54, YOu can only resize windows from windows.
[20:47] <throwed54> oh
[20:47] <Bsims> wilee-nilee: so ya can't resize windows from ubuntu anymore?
[20:47] <wilee-nilee> throwed54, You can but it is advised that in W7 you use its partitioner.
[20:48] <delac> throwed54: you need to resize (shrink) the ubuntu partition with the gparted. then you can increase the window partition from windows
[20:48] <Bsims> wilee-nilee: Ah kk
[20:49] <delac> throwed54: and the ubuntu partition can be only resized when the disk is unmounted. that is why you need to do it from live-cd/usb
[20:49] <wilee-nilee> Bsims, Safer is all really, a expand is probably okay but I would not bother the windows partitioner will do it in about 2 seconds, gparted will take a lot longer.
[20:50] <Bsims> wilee-nilee: makes sense
[20:50] <throwed54> ok
[20:50] <throwed54> delac: so I need to put the ubuntu cd in a reboot? or I can do it in windows?
[20:51] <throwed54> Sorry guys, I'm not a ver 'advanced' user
[20:51] <allanm>  I'm looking for a way to upgrade apache to 2.22.2 on ubuntu server 10.04
[20:51] <delac> throwed54: yes, boot to the live-cd. windows partitioner cannot resize ubuntu partitions properly
[20:51] <throwed54> alrighty
 Hello
 I installed ubuntu through Wubi on Windows 8
 It installed successfully
 But I couldn't connect to internet through ethernet, only wifi?
[20:52] <FloodBot1> esmeralda: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:52] <throwed54> after I resize what should I do, go into windows and use disk management?
[20:52] <[TiZ]> Hi... I've got a weird thing going on with GEdit in Xubuntu 12.10. I can't click & drag to highlight any text. Come to think of it, I can't highlight text in any way at all. Not even shift + arrow keys does anything. What's the problem here?
[20:52] <wilee-nilee> throwed54, If you boot the live cd and imagebin a gparted screenshot I will tell you what to do exactly.
[20:52] <wilee-nilee> or someone will anyway
[20:55] <wilee-nilee> throwed54, Yes after resizing ubuntu you would use the disk management in windows to resize it. But ubuntu uses a extended partition it may be wrapped around the ext 4 OS partiton and the swap or just the swap, so seeing exactly what you have will make things much easier to help.
[20:56] <esmeralda> HELO
[20:56] <d1gital> I always use pubkey authentication for SSH on my server, and suddenly I am not being prompted for a key passphrase, but for a password.  Because I don't have a password, I cannot log in.  Any idea why it would be prompting for a password rather than using my key?  I've tried specifying the key with -i, but with the same result.
[20:56] <throwed54> ok well I dont know how to get gparted or take a screen in ubuntu
[20:56] <wilee-nilee> esmeralda, Posting the card will probably get you closer to help.
[20:57] <wilee-nilee> throwed54, gparted is on the live cd it is in the dash hit the super key and type in gparted, hit the prtsc key and put that image in a imagebin.
[20:57] <throwed54> alright brb
[20:58] <throwed54> wait, I just boot into ubuntu regularly?
[20:58] <throwed54> (with the DVDR in?)
[20:59] <wilee-nilee> esmeralda, In ubuntu run in the terminal lspci  and find the card and post it.
[20:59] <tacomaster> is there any ubuntu website that shows a big chunk ok projects written in python? i just finished my python book and wanted to start looking at some decent projects to see how they work.
[20:59] <wilee-nilee> throwed54, Boot the live dvd
[20:59] <throwed54> can you give me a step by step?
[20:59] <Ubuntu_love> is there a way to cross/trigger rx tx on a serial header so  ubuntu will pick it up and do a function?
[20:59] <wilee-nilee> throwed54, I'm trying to bro. ;)
[20:59] <throwed54> i'm going to email the pic to myself from ubuntu cause I dont have a good IRC client there yet
[21:00] <wilee-nilee> throwed54, NO use a xchat on the live cd lets make this much easier.
[21:00] <throwed54> ok
[21:01] <throwed54> so, i'll put the disk in
[21:01] <throwed54> reboot
[21:01] <wilee-nilee> throwed54, Going between two computers will just make the already sketchy communication more difficult.
[21:01] <throwed54> really dumb question, how do I acess the programs on the live cd?
[21:02] <wilee-nilee> throwed54, THere is the windows key hit it and the dash=serach will open tyoe in gparted then open it.
[21:02] <zorael> Does anyone know what the sysfs equavilent of /proc/acpi/wakeup is?
[21:02] <throwed54> ok brb ok?
[21:02] <wilee-nilee> cool
[21:05] <[TiZ]> Hi... I've got a weird thing going on with GEdit in Xubuntu 12.10. I can't click & drag to highlight any text. Come to think of it, I can't highlight text in any way at all. Not even shift + arrow keys does anything. What's the problem here?
[21:12] <mN-> How to remove mouse-acceleration?
[21:13] <ageis> howto make spare devices become active in mdadm/raid?
[21:13] <lappy> wilee-nilee, it's me again!
[21:14] <wilee-nilee> lappy, Cool whats up
[21:14] <lappy> I got it working!! :)
[21:14] <lappy> I had to install boot-repair and run that.  Then I installed grub to sba and sbb.
[21:14] <wilee-nilee> lappy, Excellent, sorry I could not help with the finish of it.
[21:15] <wilee-nilee> lappy, That is a good tool, glad it wlorkewd.
[21:15] <lappy> Haha, not a problem.  You were very helpful.  If you hadn't pointed me to the forums, I'd still be toying with it.
[21:15] <wilee-nilee> worked*
[21:15] <wilee-nilee> lappy, POst the thread here if you would.
[21:15] <wilee-nilee> if you made one
[21:16] <alsu> to whoever made /usr/share/postgresql-common/init.d-functions -- please stop
[21:16] <lappy> I didn't.  I searched to see if anyone else had the same problem first.  That's where I found the answer.
[21:16] <mN-> wilee-nilee:  you know how to remove mouse acceleration?
[21:16] <alsu> I'm starting to get very annoyed with the weird modifications to packages
[21:17] <wilee-nilee> mN-, I would look in the mouse and tuchpad app.
[21:17] <wilee-nilee> touchpad*
[21:17] <lappy> Now though, there's 2 options for windows 7 in GRUB (sba & sbb).  Does anyone know how I edit GRUB to remove one of them?
[21:17] <lappy> It's not a big problem or anything, just a little annoying.
[21:17] <mN-> wilee-nilee:  ya but it doesnt remove it, just makes it smaller :c
[21:18] <wilee-nilee> mN-, I'm not sure really as far as removing it.
[21:18] <mN-> howcome linux doesnt just have raw-input for mouse
[21:18] <mN-> i mean ubuntu
[21:18] <mN-> yeah
[21:18] <aleksandar22> is there a package installing gtk source view styles
[21:19] <wilee-nilee> lappy, You only have one windows installed is this correct?
[21:19] <lappy> wilee-nilee: correct.  Both options in GRUB boot to the same thing.
[21:19] <wilee-nilee> lappy, Which is the actual OS the sda or sdb?
[21:20] <lappy> wilee-nilee: the actual win7 os is installed to sdb.
[21:21] <wilee-nilee> lappy, I would use gparted to turn of the boot flag on the sda1, and put it on the sdb partition then run sudo update-grub in ubuntu and see if this does it.
[21:21] <wilee-nilee> off*
[21:21] <wilee-nilee> lappy, Is the sda windows a recovery partition?
[21:21] <herpp> np: ? - Lil B - Suck My Dick Hoe
[21:22] <lappy> wilee-nilee: No, it is not.
[21:22] <IdleOne> !language | herpp
[21:22] <lappy> I'm installing Gparted now.
[21:22] <IdleOne> herpp: disable that NP script please
[21:23] <throwed> hi
[21:23] <throwed> i'm in ubuntu
[21:23] <wilee-nilee> lappy, Ah it has the bootflag which grub will see, it might just be that or it has some MS botfiles there can you post the bootinfo script that was run when you used the bootrepair tool or just run it and post the url
[21:23] <throwed> i had to d/l xchat and gparted because I dont know how to get them from the CD , it was a full install cd not the live one I THINK?>??
[21:23] <wilee-nilee> throwed, Cool you find gpated
[21:23] <wilee-nilee> gparted*
[21:23] <guntbert> alsu: your statement here will have no effect (this is a support channel) - file a bug
[21:23] <lappy> In Gparted sda1 and sdb2 both have boot flags.  So thats probably it.  I'm turning boot flag off sda1 now.
[21:24] <throwed> ok booting up gparted
[21:24] <wilee-nilee> lappy, cool just run the sudo update-grub in ubuntu o rewrite the boot menu.
[21:24] <throwed> alright
[21:24] <throwed> how how do I paste my screnshot?
[21:24] <wilee-nilee> !imagebin | throwed
[21:25] <throwed> ok which screen do you want to see?
[21:25] <throwed> just the main screen?
[21:25] <pagan0ne> i have a quick question about mounting to an encrypted home folder using fstab, that does not seem to be possible because the home folder does not get decrypted till after login, so fstab refuses to mount it, would it be acceptable to mount it to /tmp/some-folder and LINK to it from the home folder? or would that cause the mounted drive to be wiped or other nasty stuff to happen?
[21:25] <wilee-nilee> throwed, JUst the gparted showing the HD
[21:25] <lappy> wilee-nilee, I updated GRUB.  Anything I need to do?
[21:25] <throwed> alrighty
[21:25] <throwed> do you mind if I put it on imgur?
[21:26] <wilee-nilee> lappy, This was after the removal of the bootflag on sda1, does the read out in the terminal show n=bothe windows still?
[21:26] <wilee-nilee> both the* DOH
[21:26] <throwed> here wilee
[21:26] <throwed> http://i.imgur.com/bWI1n.png
[21:26] <wilee-nilee> throwed, AS long as we can see it thats all that matters
[21:27] <lappy> wilee-nilee, Yes, it says it found both of them.
[21:27] <throwed> as you can see I gave ubuntu WAY too much :P
[21:27] <pagan0ne> anyone?
[21:27] <throwed> i want to give it maybe 100 Gigs
[21:27] <throwed> and the rest for w7
[21:27] <alireza> salam
[21:27] <alireza> kasi nist
[21:27] <alireza> ?
[21:27] <alireza> az iran
[21:28] <wilee-nilee> lappy, Run the bootrepair but jsut the bootinfo part ion the first gui and [post the url.
[21:28] <delac> throwed: you are not on the live-cd. as far as I know, it is not possible to resize partition you are running the ubuntu from.
[21:28] <throwed> oh
[21:29] <wilee-nilee> throwed, So right click  the sda5 then resize and shrink the left side towards the swap, this will take a few minutes.
[21:29] <delac> wilee-nilee: he is not on the live-cd
[21:29] <wilee-nilee> delac, good call I missed that
[21:30] <throwed> I got the 65 bit 695 iso the latest version
[21:30] <throwed> 64 bit
[21:30] <throwed> 695 meg
[21:30] <delac> throwed: now when you boot to the live cd, did you get this kind of screen ( http://i.stack.imgur.com/Ppkup.png ) right after boot and you selected "try ubuntu without installing"?
[21:30] <throwed> no
[21:31] <delac> throwed: well, try rebooting with the live-cd on the drive
[21:31] <lappy> wilee-nilee: here's the bootinfo summary:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1321900/
[21:31] <wilee-nilee> throwed, You can't resize the ubuntu unless it is unmounted.
[21:31] <delac> throwed: you should get that screen
[21:31] <throwed> delac: its a bit differnt, if put the disc in i get that neat wall paper asking to try or install
[21:32] <delac> throwed: select the try
[21:32] <throwed> delac: then what?
[21:32] <delac> throwed: then you boot to live-cd
[21:32] <AndChat50304> could someone explain the ubuntu for android app<<<<<<
[21:32] <throwed> delac: then I can use gparted? :)
[21:32] <delac> throwed: I mean: selecting the TRY will boot you into the live-cd and from there you can use the gparted
[21:33] <throwed> yes
[21:33] <throwed> ok brb
[21:33] <neeley> does anyone need a ubuntu one referal link
[21:33] <wilee-nilee> lappy, So grub is seeing this on sda1  /bootmgr /Boot/BCD that is enough to have it bring it up in the menu. It would be safe to remove it I think but I would get more opinions on this, the best way would be to post this script on the UF and have them take a look.
[21:33] <[zion]> if i want to delete files in terminal with similar names for exp. live1 live2 live3 live4 and etch. to delete them all i can use rm -r live*. But if i want to delete only from 1-20 is it will be any command???
[21:34] <lappy> Alright, I'll go do that.  Again, thanks for the help.  One of my favorite things about ubuntu is how helpful the community is.
[21:34] <MarisaKonpaku> Hey all. I just installed java-jre manually, how do i tell ubuntu that it does infact exist so I can run, say java -jar something from konsole
[21:35] <wilee-nilee> delac, Thanks for helping throwed, this is a bit of a handholding event. ;)
[21:35] <delac> wilee-nilee: seems so
[21:35] <MarisaKonpaku> its already sitting in /usr/bin/jre1.7.0_09
[21:35] <delac> wilee-nilee: but everybody is a beginner sometime
[21:35] <llutz> [zion]: rm live{1..20}
[21:36] <pagan0ne> no one?
[21:36] <wilee-nilee> delac, Exactly I try to be as careful and helpful as I can and remember that. ;)
[21:39] <wilee-nilee> lappy, Since this a UEFI bios, I would just check in with ythe ones who really know this stuff as far as the double windows showing in the grub menu, the same /bootmgr /Boot/BCD are on sdb2 as well, but the actual OS sdb1 has alll the normal windows boot files there so it should boot on its own.
[21:39] <guntbert> pagan0ne: did you see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedHome ?
[21:40] <t4b> Is it possible that ubuntu somehow keeps me from using xinput set-button-map like normal? It only seems to work partly (ex.: I exchange left and right mouse with it, but instead both work like a left mouse button. When I change them back it works again like it's supposed to).
[21:40] <throwed> ok guys Im on the cd, gparted is loaded
[21:40] <throwed> if you could tell me step by step what do to, I want 100 gigs for ubuntu and the rest for windows 7,
[21:40] <throwed> except the factory OS image, etc
[21:40] <delac> throwed: good, post a another screenshot of the gparted
[21:40] <pagan0ne> guntbert, reviewing it now, but it seems to be general information about encrypted home dir's im already aware of...
[21:41] <MarisaKonpaku> My google fu has all but left me on this one.. im not even sure how to search for anwers :/
[21:41] <wilee-nilee> throwed, It looks like delac  is glad to help you carry on. ;)
[21:41] <delac> wilee-nilee: i will let you carry on just in minute :)
[21:41] <wilee-nilee> hehe okay
[21:41] <throwed> http://i.imgur.com/7Vca3.png
[21:41] <guntbert> pagan0ne: I'm not into any tricks with them - why do you want to do things differently?
[21:42] <t4b> (what I actually want to do is change the middle mouse button to two small buttons on my Logitech Marble Mouse. Till now I always used the left one, right now none of them works although they would be if xinput was working like it should)
[21:42] <Kardos> hmm
[21:42] <guntbert> !who | throwed
[21:42] <throwed> sorry
[21:42] <delac> wilee-nilee: yeah, I gues you are good to go
[21:42] <pagan0ne> guntbert, well, my goal is to have /home/<user>/ encrypted so my cache/browsing history etc is all encrypted on disc
[21:43] <[zion]> llutz, thank you very much u saved me loads of time :)
[21:43] <pagan0ne> guntbert, and then to mount in a 2tb drive (un-encrypted) to /home/<user>/Documents for unencrypted storage accessible to the user.
[21:43] <lookingforhelp> need someone for help, but since it's out of topic, can somebody talk to me in private message?
[21:44] <evopilot> are there ways of sending anonymous mail from ubuntu?
[21:44] <mN-> evopilot: its called creating a hotmail account with fake nickname
[21:44] <iceroot> evopilot: nothing in the internet is anonymous
[21:45] <mN-> iceroot:  well he probably meant "anonymous" mail to some girl or teacher
[21:45] <yeehi> I need a file recovery application - with GUI and wizard, hopefully - I reinstalled, expecting to find some files i had still on the /home partition, but they are all gone. I want to get those files back. What should I do?
[21:45] <iceroot> !recover | yeehi
[21:45] <bekks> yeehi: Most likely, they are lost.
[21:45] <guntbert> pagan0ne: that sounds complicated - the procedure mentioned under "if the user wants to migrate from a non-encrypted..." seems to cover exactly what you need (if I understood you correctly)
[21:46] <evopilot> actually there is a girl involved ;)
[21:46] <throwed> wilee-nilee: hello?
[21:46] <wilee-nilee> throwed, whats up do you have the new screenshot?
[21:46] <throwed> http://i.imgur.com/7Vca3.png
[21:47] <wilee-nilee> throwed, So right click the swap sda6 and click unmount we want the key you see next to it in the left lower panel to be gone, and the key next to sda4 gone as well.
[21:49] <throwed> wilee: theres no unmount but theres a swap off
[21:50] <throwed> oh you meant sda5?
[21:50] <wilee-nilee> throwed, That is correct swap off.
[21:50] <wilee-nilee> no the sad6
[21:50] <throwed> oh ok
[21:50] <wilee-nilee> sda6
[21:50] <throwed> wilee: ok its done
[21:50] <wilee-nilee> throwed When you see thise keys next to partitions it means it is mounted
[21:50] <throwed> Yes
[21:51] <throwed> they're gone
[21:51] <wilee-nilee> throwed, Now right click the sda5 partition and resize then in the pop up move the left edge to the right to the size you want ubuntu to be.
[21:52] <Dan-E> is it possible to get 12.10 working correctly with GForce 6150 LE
[21:52] <wilee-nilee> throwed, After you get the size you want hit the green check in the top panel to run it.
[21:53] <throwed> ok im done
[21:53] <throwed> guess reboot into windows?
[21:53] <curiousx> hi, issomeone is having problems with this repo ?:   http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/quantal/Release
[21:53] <throwed> sorry, wilee: i'm done
[21:53] <wilee-nilee> throwed, No you need to resize the sda4 up aginst the sda5, but click it in the left panel.
[21:54] <throwed> how
[21:54] <wilee-nilee> throwed, Right click the sda4 in the list and resize and move it from the left as far as it will go, it will be up against the sda5 then,
[21:54] <throwed> wilee: do I have to match exactly im guessing?
[21:55] <curiousx> i'm downloading from "main server" -.
[21:55] <wilee-nilee> throwed, Guesssing when?
[21:55] <throwed> the sda4 has to be exactly?
[21:56] <wilee-nilee> throwed, THe sda4 is called a extended, the sda5 is inside of it if you look at the partitons on the top you will see two different colors do you see this.
[21:56] <unrar> Hey
[21:56] <throwed> its taking a long time to shrink, bear with me
[21:56] <throwed> *wilee:
[21:56] <wilee-nilee> throwed, the sda4 is green and the sda5 is black.
[21:56] <throwed> yes
[21:57] <wilee-nilee> throwed, yeah the shrink of the sda5 may take awhile don't interrupt it.
[21:57] <throwed> ok :)
[21:59] <throwed> so in case you're gone by the time it's done, i just match the sda4, reboot and merge the unallocated in win 7 disk management?
[21:59] <wilee-nilee> throwed, So as I described the sda4 contains the sda5, when the sda5 has shrunk you will just repeat the process on the sda4, only clicking it in the list as the partiotions green outline is hard to click on exactly. you will move the sda4 from the left side all the way to the right it will be up against the sda5 then, this leaves the area between the sda4 and wins as unallocated.
[21:59] <throwed> ok
[22:00] <wilee-nilee> throwed, I doubt you will forget this it is helpful to know this stuff you will be a pro then. ;)
[22:00] <guntbert> throwed: while you wait for the shrinking to finish I want to tell you why it is useful to say a person's nick: many of us a reading several channels and doing other things too - so without the nick we won't notice that you gave an answer at all (ot much later)
[22:00] <throwed> guntbert: sorry, I'm so used to Efnet/Undernet chatter
[22:01] <guntbert> throwed: no need to be sorry, it is for your own benefit :)
[22:01] <throwed> wilee: Do i have to resize the sda4 manually, or just drag it as you said?
[22:02]  * throwed is confused (
[22:02] <throwed> :(
[22:02] <krofna> How can I see upgrade history for specific package?
[22:03] <lluis> hola
[22:03] <delac> throwed: shrink it in the same way you did with sda5
[22:03] <throwed> ok
[22:04] <throwed> delac: and then pull them together at the top of the screen?
[22:04] <cordoval> is there a way to have a terminal open into a special directory in ubuntu?
[22:04] <herpp> cordoval
[22:04] <cordoval> I would like to be able to switch to a predefined directories
[22:04] <lloowen> Hello all! I'm trying to upgrade a VPS that has 10.04 to 12.04 with no luck. I'm getting an error about a package that has unmet dependencies when I enter the command 'apt-get install update-manager-core' , then on the last line I get E: Broken packages.    I tried 'apt-get install -f' with no luck. Grateful for any help.
[22:04] <herpp> right click in the directory
[22:04] <herpp> and open terminal here
[22:04] <cordoval> the terminal i mean
[22:04] <cordoval> no but more quick to reuse the same terminal
[22:04] <delac> throwed: yes. the point is to get grey area between the sda2 and sda4/5
[22:04] <cordoval> and jump between folders fast
[22:05] <cordoval> like a boss
[22:05] <herpp> uh
[22:05] <throwed> delac: ok
[22:05] <herpp> you can use cd
[22:05] <herpp> cd /Desktop
[22:05] <herpp> etc
[22:05] <cordoval> no
[22:05] <cordoval> i have long dirs
[22:05] <FloodBot1> herpp: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:05] <guntbert> !enter | herpp
[22:05] <cordoval> i want to remember they are projects
[22:05] <delac> throwed: this grey area is unallocated area, that you can then allocate ot the windows
[22:05] <herpp> -_-
[22:05] <throwed> delac: yes, thanks
[22:06] <wilee-nilee> throwed cool you understand.
[22:07] <d1gital> time -f "%e" echo hi        -f: command not found.  why isn't time parsing -f as an argument?
[22:08] <llutz> !info time | d1gital:
[22:08] <bekks> d1gital: Because -f isnt a valid option. Use --format instead
[22:09] <throwed> wilee, delac: it's taking forever :(
[22:09] <llutz> d1gital: you need this gnu-time
[22:10] <L3top> anyone know why my authorized_keys file gets rewritten whenever I upgrade?
[22:11] <cordoval> any takers on my cli question remembering folders and their last commands run?
[22:11] <cordoval> righ tthere on the folder and its shortcuts?
[22:11] <guntbert> bekks: but  "man time" says differently
[22:11] <throwed> wilee: So I guess you meant drag the unallocated to the left between sda2 and the rest? :)
[22:12] <delac> throwed: I'm not sure how long it should take. At what point is it at the moment. (you coukd post screenshot)
[22:12] <llutz> guntbert: bekks gnu-time has those options, the shell-builtin (which is used in most cases) hasn't
[22:12] <dr_willis> cordoval:  its not clear what you mean
[22:13] <throwed> delac: sda 5 just finished, sda 4 next right?
[22:13] <UbuntuGuest> hi
[22:13] <guntbert> llutz: would that qualify as a bug in documentation?
[22:13] <delac> throwed: I think so. wilee-nilee is the expert here... :)
[22:14] <wilee-nilee> throwed, I have carefuly explained this, so it is up to you to explain if you do not exactly understand, be careful with the OH you meant. Take a screenshot as suggested and post it.
[22:14] <llutz> guntbert: no, since the shell-builtin "time" has no man-page
[22:14] <throwed> wilee-nilee: it's not letting me resize it :(
[22:14] <llutz> guntbert: gnu-time is not installed by default on most distros
[22:14] <wilee-nilee> throwed, Lets see another screenshot.
[22:14] <throwed> the sda 4
[22:15] <random2358> hi --- I got a broken harddisk. Cannot even boot the ubuntu live system since I get { DRDY ERR } spam -- is it somehow possible to forbid the use of all ata drives ?
[22:15] <throwed> wilee-nilee: http://i.imgur.com/zr2N1.png
[22:15] <UbuntuGuest> can someone help; I'm tried to install Ubuntu on my machine (Acer Aspire 5732 running Windows 7) and when I try to start in Ubuntu it works but I have no lighting on the screen and so cannot see what it going on
[22:16] <random2358> sorry, it finally booted
[22:16] <random2358> is it possible to disable that harddrive on boot anyway ?
[22:17] <lloowen> How can I upgrade 10.04 to 12.04 on a VPS server. I can't install the 'update-manager-core' package to do the upgrade..
[22:18] <gogeta> lloowen: call the adim and ask him to do it
[22:18] <throwed> wilee-nilee: you here?
[22:18] <wilee-nilee> throwed, Hehe you shrank it from the right to the left no biggie, you now have to right click that sda5 and in the gui mope the whole partition as it is to the right, hehe you know wj=hat righ and left are don't you this is literally left and right.
[22:18] <lloowen> gogeta: Thanks for the advice. Surely this can be done without asking the administrator!
[22:18] <wilee-nilee> move*
[22:18] <gogeta> lloowen: its his server so no
[22:19] <pangur> How do I access system administration.  I can get to system settings but not the other.  I want to check that I have the right nvidia driver.
[22:19] <throwed> wilee: i just did it :)
[22:19] <gogeta> lloowen: better then the phone call of i crashed it trying to do a remote upgrade
[22:19] <lloowen> gogeta: But I have root access!
[22:19] <dr_willis> pangur:  you could  try running the 'nvidia-settings' tool
[22:19] <wilee-nilee> throwed, Sorry for the spelling, when I say left to right I mean actual left to right as you are looking at the screen.
[22:20] <throwed> there
[22:20] <throwed> wilee: i did it, resized the other one
[22:20] <pangur> Is that just using the terminal or is gui access to it, dr_willis ?
[22:20] <DDAZZA> How can I get the PID of a process with an argument.  http://snipurl.com/25gsrkp
[22:20] <llutz> guntbert: for info, if you are interested http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=388458
[22:20] <dr_willis> pangur:  terminal, or alt-f2 or whatever way you want to run an app...
[22:20] <throwed> wilee: there are a few megs difference though :S
[22:20] <pangur> thanks, dr_willis
[22:20] <Ubuntu_love> is there a way to cross/trigger rx tx on a serial header so  ubuntu will pick it up and do a function?
[22:20] <throwed> wilee: or maybe not megs, but yeah
[22:21] <throwed> wilee : I'll take another screenshot ! :)
[22:21] <wilee-nilee> throwed, You resized sda5 yes, but you resized thr right side to the left not the left side of the partition to the right, does this make sense.
[22:21] <delac> wilee-nilee: actually, is it even possible to resize partition that has stuff in it so that the stuff would need to move?
[22:22] <wilee-nilee> delac, I'm not sure I understand.
[22:22] <throwed> wilee-nilee: how does this look? :) http://i.imgur.com/allSC.png
[22:22] <gogeta> delac: yea you can resize partations with data on them most of the time without any issue
[22:23] <wilee-nilee> throwed that is perfect, but I would only do one partition at a time myself, just to make surer nothing gets messed up.
[22:23] <throwed> wilee: so shall I need boot into windows 7?
[22:23] <llutz> DDAZZA: tried pgrep -f ?
[22:23] <throwed> wilee: merge the unallocated ? :)
[22:23] <delac> wilee-nilee: He has the ubuntu installed on the sda5on the left and if he shrinks the partition from left, then the data is going to be either remove d or moved to right too. But is it moved?
[22:23] <rafalm> throwed: dont forget to apply the changes
[22:24] <wilee-nilee> throwed, YOu need to run what you have by hitting the green check first.
[22:24] <gogeta> throwed: yes aculy after you resize and install linux you will need to boot windows to let chkdsk run
[22:24] <throwed> wilee: yes I just did
[22:24] <delac> wilee-nilee: oh, I gues it is...
[22:24] <throwed> gogeta: Gotchya
[22:24] <wilee-nilee> delac, Whem ever you resize of move a partition the data is moved.
[22:24] <wilee-nilee> when*
[22:25] <wilee-nilee> throwed, So lets see another screenie
[22:25] <throwed> ok
[22:25] <throwed> wilee: it's moving stuff to the right. going to take an hour
[22:26] <soman> Hi guys! I installed a ru-RU.CP1251 locale but I cannot use it and it is absent in available locales list.. where could be a probelm? Ubuntu 12.04 locale -a out => http://paste.kde.org/587210/13517223/
[22:26] <gogeta> The biggest thing E17 brings to the table is universal compositing. This means you can use a composited desktop without any GPU acceleration at all, and use it nicely. We don't rely on software fallback implementations of OpenGL . We literally have a specific software engine that is so fast that some developers spent weeks using it accidentally, not realizing they had software compositing on their setup."
[22:26] <wilee-nilee> throwed, I figured as such. Now since you have moved that apartition around so much it may not boot so we can fix that when we get there, this will also be done from the live cd again.
[22:27] <gogeta> e17 just jumped way ahed of gnome 3 and unity
[22:27] <DDAZZA> llutz: thanks
[22:27] <llutz> gogeta: this is ubuntu-support, not e17-fanboy-channel
[22:27] <throwed> wilee-nilee: ok I just have to go out for a bit, i'll be back in half n hour
[22:27] <gogeta> llutz: lol
[22:27] <wilee-nilee> throwed, cool
[22:28] <cordoval> dr_willis: hmm
[22:28] <cordoval> simple though, like i want quick access to preset project directories
[22:29] <dr_willis> in bash?
[22:29] <cordoval> with just one terminal window, so easy switch. like ~ sucd project1     and extra is remember the last command there
[22:29] <cordoval> ~sucd project2
[22:29] <cordoval> ~ pwd and bam
[22:30] <dr_willis> bash has some cd shortcut feature i recall reading about. but never used.
[22:30] <dr_willis> never seen a per directory history feature.
[22:30] <cordoval> url?
[22:30] <dr_willis> in the bash docs..
[22:30] <cordoval> per directory history is a must
[22:30] <cordoval> have
[22:31] <dr_willis> sounds like you may be needing to do some scripting and using the prompt features to run a command on each return perhaps.
[22:31] <bekks> cordoval: Thats not implemented, in noknown shell.
[22:31] <dr_willis> unless theres some other shells with the feature.  ive never seen it
[22:32] <Dan-E> can someone tell me how to get 12.10 back to original in terminal. I did a fallback and want to get back to original.
[22:32] <gogeta> dr_willis: does he mean screen
[22:32] <JohnTeddy> Does the ubuntu 12.10 alternative i386 exist? Is there no more alternative version for downloading?
[22:32] <cordoval> thanks
[22:32] <dr_willis> Dan-E:  back to original what?
[22:32] <dr_willis> JohnTeddy:  altnerive cd is gone.
[22:32] <Dan-E> when I installed 12.10
[22:32] <dr_willis> Dan-E:  delete the  various setting directories in your home.. is one way
[22:33] <Auriga> Howdy all.
[22:33] <JohnTeddy> dr_willis: Can i still do encrypted hard disks during the install process?
[22:33] <dr_willis> Dan-E:  to reset user settings.
[22:33] <JohnTeddy> (That's the only reason I always downloaded the alternative)
[22:33] <dr_willis> JohnTeddy:  no idea. i never use the feature.
[22:33] <pangur> When I run nvidia-settings, I get this message: You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver.  Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server.
[22:33] <herpp> np: Eminem - The Real Slim Shady
[22:33] <dr_willis> pangur:  you have insgtalled the nvidia drivers?
[22:34] <kheeper> anyone have experince with death disk
[22:34] <JohnTeddy> dr_willis: http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2012/09/04/full-disk-encryption-and-lvm-configuration-in-ubuntus-graphical-installer/ , it seems supported fine
[22:34] <JohnTeddy> thanks
[22:35] <pangur> dr_willis, I had them when I dual-booted win7 but, in light of your question, I realise that they are no longer around - as I have removed my win7 entirely.
[22:35] <Dan-E> dr_willis isn't there a way to reset in terminal? dont like to delete things I am new to ubuntu
[22:35] <dr_willis> Dan-E:  deleteing your old config files is in the terminal..
[22:35] <dr_willis> Dan-E:  make some Backupd-settings dir and move them all there ifyou want
[22:36] <pangur> So, without Windows, I will not be able to install nvidia drivers, I imagine.
[22:36] <dr_willis> a few of the tweak tools  like ubuntu-tweak MIGHT still have some reset settings features.. but i dont use them mich
[22:36] <pangur> Never mind, I guess that I do not need them anyway.
[22:37] <dr_willis> pangur:  i dont see how having windows installed or not is related to you installing the nvidia drivers on the linux system,...
[22:37] <dr_willis> ;)
[22:37] <random2358> is it possible to disable all ata probes on boot ?
[22:37] <JohnTeddy> Is it possible to do a fresh format of Ubuntu with the 12.10 installer.. but to move my /home/john, to /home/john/backup first during the install? and wipe over everything else?
[22:38] <willdabeast> I have just set up my internet to a an N+ Router, I have also set up an access point on a different floor using a Wireless G Router. Am I limiting my wireless broadband by using a G instead of an N as an access point? (FIOS)
[22:39] <pangur> OK, I shall think about it dr_willis.  I  am not sure that I need nvidia drivers anyway as I am not aware of lacking anything through not having them installed.
[22:39] <dr_willis> JohnTeddy:  if you test the os first so you are on the live cd/desktop. you could mount your home dir.  and move things.. but i have a /home/ seperate and never needed to move it.
[22:40] <Dan-E> How about reinstalling thru terminal?
[22:40] <dr_willis> JohnTeddy:  if you are not with a seperate partion for /home/ well.. that makes it harder
[22:40] <dr_willis> Dan-E:  reinstalling what?
[22:40] <Dan-E> the ubuntu operating system 12.10
[22:41] <dr_willis> Dan-E:  what settings are you wanting to reset EXACTLY? and why?
[22:41] <newbie_to_ubuntu> so I'm new to ubuntu
[22:41] <Dan-E> I want the side tool bar. Now I have the one at the top and bottom
[22:41] <newbie_to_ubuntu> I've been trying out using Linux as my base OS for the past week or so
[22:42] <newbie_to_ubuntu> I'm running 12.04
[22:42] <newbie_to_ubuntu> lots of things work flawlessly
[22:42] <newbie_to_ubuntu> I'm having many problems with anything multimedia related
[22:42] <newbie_to_ubuntu> i can't get sound to work properly on my system at all
[22:43] <pangur> How would I find out what nvidia driver I require?
[22:43] <newbie_to_ubuntu> any advice on how to setup sound and video so I can watch a youtube video?
[22:43] <xangua> Dan-E: just log out and select unity
[22:43] <blackness> newbie_to_ubuntu, are you doing it from a server install?
[22:43] <pepee> does anyone knows if there will be a 3.6.4 kernel for quantal in http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/  ?
[22:43] <Dan-E> its not there
[22:43] <pangur> How would I work out what graphics card I have?
[22:43] <newbie_to_ubuntu> I installed from the web to my laptop
[22:43] <MonkeyDust> newbie_to_ubuntu  in a terminal, alsamixer, mm means mute, press m to unmute
[22:43] <newbie_to_ubuntu> the install went fine no issues
[22:44] <blackness> pangur, check dmesg and see if there is anything that states your card, that is a quick way to tell
[22:45] <dr_willis> Dan-E:  be sure you have the ubuntu-desktop package. and when you are on the login screen select 'ubuntu' not gnome or gnome-classic or other sessions. If you delete your .dmrc file that should also reset it back to the default unity desktop
[22:45] <dr_willis> Dan-E:  reinstalling the whole os for this would be a little overkill
[22:45] <blackness> pangur, also try: lshw -C display
[22:45] <newbie_to_ubuntu> i tried using the guayadeque player and I keep getting garbled noise
[22:45] <blackness> you dont have to reinstall to get a GUI setup on a server build.
[22:45] <newbie_to_ubuntu> i also tried playing youtube videos and this only sporadically works not consistently works
[22:46] <blackness> newbie_to_ubuntu, are you saving the youtube videos to your disc?
[22:46] <Dan-E>  thanks
[22:46] <newbie_to_ubuntu> blackness: no i just want to watch them realtime
[22:46] <pangur>  product: C79 [GeForce 9100M G]
[22:46] <blackness> pangur, that is you're video card.
[22:46] <pangur> Thanks blackness  :)
[22:46] <blackness> and i believe the .381 build from nvidia covers that card
[22:46] <dr_willis> \i always use the various youtube downloader plugins, or flash-video replacer extensions to watch my flash in VLC :)
[22:47] <newbie_to_ubuntu> in one case I just want to listen to my classical radio station WCPE through an ogg vorbis format
[22:47] <pangur> Thanks again, blackness.
[22:47] <blackness> i use terminal to wget them, and ffmpeg to convert to .mp4.
[22:47] <blackness> welcome pangur.
[22:47] <blackness> dont you use flash-installer+firefox to view youtube?
[22:48] <dr_willis> i noticed on 12.10 with  my  desktop and some players i have to select alsa instead of pulse audio as the sound output or i get staticy sound sometimes..
[22:48] <newbie_to_ubuntu> i used adobe flash player and chrome to try and view youtube
[22:48] <blackness> since i went from 12.04 to 12.10 i cant use pulse at all.
[22:48] <dr_willis> I try to avoide flash as much as possible ;)
[22:48] <newbie_to_ubuntu> i tried un-installing pulse
[22:48] <blackness> newbie_to_ubuntu, use firefox. sudo apt-get install firefox and see if that works
[22:48] <newbie_to_ubuntu> i'd like to avoid flash too, but google uses it
[22:48] <blackness> you cant avoid flash anymore, its too main stream.
[22:48] <newbie_to_ubuntu> i have firefox installed let me try it using firefox again
[22:49] <dr_willis> newbie_to_ubuntu:  with the flash downloaders and flash-replacer extensions most sites i watch flash... but in vlc. ;)
[22:49] <newbie_to_ubuntu> dr_willis how to I select also ?
[22:49] <newbie_to_ubuntu> so the vlc thing? my understanding is that in the US it's not legal
[22:49] <dr_willis> each player has its own settings.. i just use vlc.
[22:49] <blackness> vlc is legal in the US.
[22:49] <blackness> i dont see why a video program is illegal.
[22:50] <newbie_to_ubuntu> so vlc is using proprietary codecs and they are infringing on the patents is my understanding
[22:50] <dr_willis> patent  and legal stupidy cause it to have some restrictions.. not illeaglity...
[22:50] <newbie_to_ubuntu> but I could be wrong
[22:50] <newbie_to_ubuntu> i'm no expert on the subject but I was researching it for a couple hours today
[22:51] <Persillade> hello
[22:51] <blackness> i believe its the divx codec that causes this problem.
[22:51] <Persillade> would a 2 years old nvidia 440GT would be supported fully by ubuntu ?
[22:51] <Ubuntu_love> is there a way to cross/trigger rx tx on a serial header so  ubuntu will pick it up and do a function?
[22:51] <newbie_to_ubuntu> blackness: that's one of the codecs that is an issue
[22:51] <blackness> but then again, i installed it without any notes stating it is illegal.
[22:51] <Ubuntu_love> is there a way to cross/trigger rx tx on a serial header so  ubuntu will pick it up and do a function?
[22:51] <blackness> Persillade, i have a 440. and im on 12.10
[22:51] <dr_willis> Ubuntu_love:  tried asking in #hardware if its doable at all?
[22:51] <blackness> or i might be on 570.
[22:52] <Persillade> do you have 3D support blackness ?
[22:52] <newbie_to_ubuntu> so blackness you've been using vlc and it's worked well for you?
[22:52] <blackness> Persillade, i dont use/care for 3D so im not sure.
[22:53] <blackness> i use VLC for anything video related.
[22:53] <Persillade> ok thanks
[22:53] <newbie_to_ubuntu> got it
[22:53] <blackness> but i tend to convert my .flv to .mp4 before i view mine.
[22:53] <newbie_to_ubuntu> so what about the ubuntu-restricted-extras
[22:54] <newbie_to_ubuntu> i haven't installed those either
[22:54] <blackness> not sure, i havnt installed those.
[22:54] <blackness> ill look them up for a second. newbie_to_ubuntu
[22:54] <vfw> newbie_to_ubuntu: You'll probably want to install them.
[22:54] <Dan-E> Thank You again I didn't have ubuntu desktop installed!
[22:55] <JohnTeddy> john@paloalto:~/Downloads$ md5sum /dev/sr0
[22:55] <JohnTeddy> e87d70b6ecc351df77045dc1b9642d05  /dev/sr0
[22:55] <blackness> newbie_to_ubuntu, from what i see, only divx is causing issues. but if you convert to any open codec, it wont be illegal imo
[22:55] <JohnTeddy> My disc drive doesn't match the iso file (b4191c1d1d6fdf358c154f8bf86b97dd  ubuntu-12.10-desktop-i386.iso). Did I do something wrong or is this normal?
[22:55] <dr_willis> Dan-E:  so whatg did you install exactly? xubuntu? lubuntu?
[22:56] <blackness> JohnTeddy, your burnt CD MD5 doesnt match the iso?
[22:56] <Dan-E> originally?
[22:56] <dr_willis> divx is just a variant of mpeg4 i thought.. but codecs can get confuseing. ;)
[22:56] <blackness> its not exactly the same, frame compression is different.
[22:57] <Dan-E> xubuntu
[22:57] <dr_willis> Dan-E:  that would give you the xfce desktop by default then.
[22:58] <JohnTeddy> blackness: I guess, if I'm doing it right.
[22:58] <JohnTeddy> The md5sum that is.
[22:58] <wilee-nilee> JohnTeddy, Checking the hash of a cd is done in a specialized way, did you use the md5sum wiki to do this correctly?
[22:59] <JohnTeddy> wilee-nilee: no, I've done this in the past and it matches though.
[22:59] <wilee-nilee> johnteddy the wiki staes that they will not be the same.
[22:59] <JohnTeddy> When I pop the cd into my laptop, Ubuntu installer pops up fine.
[22:59] <gogeta> dr_willis: so is h264 xvid abd so on
[22:59] <JohnTeddy> wilee-nilee: Do you know why the change? I don't recall it being like this.
[22:59] <gogeta> and
[22:59] <wilee-nilee> !md5sum | JohnTeddy
[23:00] <rozmuq> hi. i downloaded window 8 iso file and i have a usb 8gb.. how do i make it bootable so i can install win?
[23:00] <xangua> rozmuq: sounds like a windows question
[23:00] <dr_willis> gogeta:  i always got to go look at the wikipedia pages to rember it all..
[23:00] <gogeta> rozmuq: ask microsoft
[23:00] <wilee-nilee> JohnTeddy, I am not sure other then when I looked at the wiki I noticed the specificities of a cd check.
[23:00] <gogeta> rozmuq: there is a windows channel on hear
[23:00] <dr_willis> rozmuq:  #windows may know. you might just need to dd the iso to the flash.
[23:01] <miwa> rozmuq: you should be able to pretty much just copy the files from the iso to the usb drive
[23:01] <JohnTeddy> wilee-nilee: I think I did the wrong /dev/blah, I am doing it again with /dev/cdrom as the wiki says you linked me to.
[23:01] <JohnTeddy> wilee-nilee: Thanks!
[23:01] <wilee-nilee> JohnTeddy, YOU can check the cd from a boot to the first gui, and with these instructions from the wiki.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM#Check_the_CD
[23:02] <dr_willis>   /dev/cdrom is normally a link to /dev/sr0 or sr1
[23:02] <JohnTeddy> dr_willis: I see.
[23:03] <JohnTeddy> Whatever then, I'll just assume it's right.
[23:03] <JohnTeddy> I think the Ubuntu installer has some internal hash checking it does.
[23:03] <JohnTeddy> If it tells me something is wrong I'll re-burn.
[23:03] <JohnTeddy> If not, I'll proceed.
[23:03] <blackness> JohnTeddy, if the md5 doesn't match, you should slow down the burner and reburn.
[23:04] <blackness> i wouldnt try that if it was me JohnTeddy but i recommend to reburn the iso at a slower speed on a different brand cd
[23:04] <JohnTeddy> blackness: There is blank space that is changing the hash at the end of the dvd apparently.
[23:04] <JohnTeddy> meh, I'll rely on Canonical installing some hash checking logic on the installer.
[23:04] <Jordan_U> JohnTeddy: The Ubuntu installer does have an option for checking its own disk integrity, but it's not a part of the normal install process.
[23:04] <JohnTeddy> Jordan_U: I see, ok I'll try that when the installer starts.
[23:05] <dr_willis> its befor the installer isent it? i forget. been so long.
[23:05] <EDinNY> How do I set which servers are on at boot?
[23:05] <Jordan_U> JohnTeddy: You'll have to press a key while the "keyboard = accessibility" symbol is on the screen,
[23:05] <gogeta> dr_willis: isnt it at the boot loader
[23:06] <burdickjp> I'm trying to boot the Kubuntu 12.10 install media on a Dell Latitude ST tablet.  It has a single USB port.  No matter what I try I cannot get the tablet to recognize the USB boot media.  I've seen this on other devices, and was able to switch USB ports and have it boot, but this only has the one port.
[23:06] <dr_willis> EDinNY:  upstart managed services have a .conf file you can alter/rename to controll  them
[23:07] <gogeta> burdickjp: its x86 or what
[23:07] <burdickjp> intel atom z670
[23:07] <burdickjp> x86 32 bit
[23:07] <EDinNY> dr_willis: I can use upstart to stop the dhcp server from starting?
[23:07] <Danon> happy spirit day eveybody
[23:07] <BarkingFish> dr_willis, thanks - you may just have helped me too :) Where do you find those files?
[23:07] <dr_willis> EDinNY:  if its managed by upstart - yes.
[23:07] <gogeta> burdickjp: probly need to tell it to boot usb or soemthing
[23:08] <burdickjp> have USB set as first boot option
[23:08] <dr_willis> upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook  i think has the good docs on upstart
[23:08] <gogeta> burdickjp:  then check to make shure you set it correctly
[23:08] <gogeta> burdickjp: i always use unetbootin
[23:08] <burdickjp> pulled up boot menu, which lists bootable devices, and USB was there ONCE, booted the media, had to reboot, it's no longer there
[23:09] <gogeta> burdickjp: sounds like you curppted it
[23:09] <burdickjp> i used dd if= of= to make the disk
[23:09] <burdickjp> i've remade the disk.  still no boot
[23:09] <shwaiil> Hi
[23:09] <gogeta> burdickjp: format disk to vfat
[23:09] <Jordan_U> burdickjp: And the media that successfully booted was the USB drive with the dd'd iso?
[23:09] <burdickjp> jordan_u: yes
[23:09] <shwaiil> Q: The left menu / dock disappeared after I disabled Window manager from Compiz, how to open compiz, or terminal or anything really ? Tks
[23:10] <blackness> JohnTeddy, are you using the DVDr as a multisession or single?
[23:10] <Jordan_U> burdickjp: Does the BIOS mention anything about UEFI, or "legacy boot"?
[23:10] <Aquethys> Hi, I'm on an HP Pavilion dv6-7043cl and have successfully burned a CD with Ubuntu 12.10 (screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/OxqQn.png) I'm having trouble booting from CD, from what I've googled you're supposed to press F10 when the hp splash appears but that doesn't appear..or it just flashes barely. If I press F10 it makes some really loud noise. What am I doing wrong?
[23:10] <gogeta> burdickjp: i ment usb
[23:10] <blackness> burdickjp, usb?
[23:10] <burdickjp> jordan_u: not that I can see.  it's a very limited bios
[23:10] <blackness> Aquethys, hit F12.
[23:11] <blackness> F12 is the boot menu on newer systems.
[23:11] <burdickjp> i've got 12.04, win8, and win7 installed on this thing, so it has booted from USB in the past
[23:11] <dr_willis> shwaiil:  http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html
[23:11] <gogeta> burdickjp: usind dd can make things strange when it messes up
[23:11] <burdickjp> I'm going to redownload the image
[23:11] <blackness> shutdown the machine with the cd in, as soon as it powers on, tap F12 with a second between them, wait for a boot menu to show, and select usb/cdrom
[23:11] <gogeta> burdickjp: you probly need to reset that entire usb stick
[23:11] <alandeb> hi man
[23:12] <alandeb> help-me please ---> http://pastebin.com/UQs93m6D
[23:12] <burdickjp> reformat all 3 thumb drives i've tried
[23:12] <burdickjp> and start over
[23:12] <Jordan_U> burdickjp: Just check the md5sum, if it's good then redownloading is pointless.
[23:12] <Jordan_U> !md5 | burdickjp
[23:12] <shwaiil> dr_willis: tks for looking, but how to open terminal ? I've got no menu access, wondering if there's a hotkey
[23:12] <burdickjp> there's a newer nightly
[23:12] <gogeta> burdickjp: format as vfat
[23:12] <blackness> burdickjp, if your using a USB drive, use use-creater-gtk. if you have a GUI. and on ubuntu already :P
[23:12] <gogeta> burdickjp: if your formating to them ext the device will not see it
[23:12] <throwed> wilee-nilee: Hello, i'm back! 5 minutes left on gparted! :)
[23:12] <burdickjp> will vfat
[23:12] <dr_willis> shwaiil:  alt-f2 gnome-terminal is one way
[23:12] <burdickjp> appreciate it
[23:13] <dr_willis> !terminal
[23:13] <wilee-nilee> throwed, Cool so give us a screen shot before you reboot to make sure all is good.
[23:13] <throwed> wilee: sure :)
[23:14] <gogeta> burdickjp: its relly fat32 but gparted calls it vfat
[23:17] <throwed> wilee: an error occured :(
[23:18] <throwed> wilee: "cant have any overlapping partitions"
[23:18] <throwed> wilee: it moved sda5 to the right fine, but not sda4
[23:19] <aquethys> Hi again. So I hit F12 to boot from CD on my Hp Pavilion dv6-7043cl and when I hit select advanced boot options I only get the following: Repair, the Safe modes, enable boot logging, low resolution video, last known good config, directory services restore mode, debug mode, disable auto restart and disable driver signature enforcement. None of these are boot from CD. What am I doing wrong? :|
[23:19] <aquethys> o_o
[23:20] <throwed> wilee-nilee: you with me?
[23:20] <wilee-nilee> throwed, yep
[23:20] <throwed> wilee: it wont move the second one, overlapped partition not allowed
[23:21] <aquethys> Hi again. So I hit F12 to boot from CD on my Hp Pavilion dv6-7043cl and when I hit select advanced boot options I only get the following: Repair, the Safe modes, enable boot logging, low resolution video, last known good config, directory services restore mode, debug mode, disable auto restart and disable driver signature enforcement. None of these are boot from CD. What am I doing wrong? :|
[23:21] <Muelli> aquethys: you are repeating your question too often.
[23:21] <workless> hi
[23:22] <wilee-nilee> throwed, Yeah that is why I suggested moving both partitions is not advised at once, can you resize the sda 4 up against the sda5 as of now?
[23:22] <workless> I've a problem with grub2.0, it works fine but grub.cfg is just...ignored? either there is an error in it or something weird is going on
[23:22] <shwaiil> Q: I use a program that uses lot's of key combinations, Blender. Ubuntu 12.10 doesn't let me use this hotkeys basically. Is there a way to disable "unity" hotkeys or something ?! Without having to go trough it individually on compiz or whatever it is called
[23:23] <wilee-nilee> workless, Can you give more detail what error are you seeing and when?
[23:23] <workless> i can boot fine by typing linux /boot/vmlinux... root=/dev/sda initrd /boot/initrd.... boot
[23:23] <workless> wilee-nilee: nothing! just the minimal console
[23:23] <throwed> wilee: no, that's not working either
[23:24] <wilee-nilee> throwed, lets see a screen shot, we may just have to set you up with a fresh install and call it a day to be honest, the ubuntu has nothing in it right.
[23:24] <throwed> nothing, no
[23:24] <throwed> but I'd like my windows 7 space back
[23:25] <wilee-nilee> workless, Can you get to the desktop, it sounds as if you can.
[23:25] <sha1sum> Hey all. Is there a way to balance sockets between two different interfaces? I.e. I have a WLAN adapter and a LAN adapter with two separate IP's, and for every socket connection an alternate interface is used.
[23:25] <wilee-nilee> throwed, that is no problem stay with me here.
[23:25] <throwed> wilee: http://i.imgur.com/oqL7f.png
[23:25] <Jordan_U> workless: Did you run grub-install manually at some point?
[23:25] <workless> wilee-nilee: i'm right now, no problem whatsoever booting in, but i need to do it MANULLY >_<
[23:25] <bitcycle> Hey all.  Can someone advise a good and easy irc server that I can run on my debian machine?  I've never set one up before.
[23:25] <workless> Jordan_U: sure did
[23:26] <Jordan_U> workless: What grub-install command did you run?
[23:26] <vfw> sha1sum: What exactly are you wanting to do?
[23:26] <workless> Jordan_U: grub-install /dev/sda, grub 2.00 is installed in MBR, the problem is the configuration somewhere
[23:26] <Jordan_U> workless: Do you have a separate /boot/ partition?
[23:27] <Sazzo> bitcycle, thre are some in the software center
[23:27] <wilee-nilee> throwed, So we can keep trying to mess with what you have or just delete it and build the correct partitioning and do a manual install, then boot to windows to resize it.
[23:27] <sha1sum> vfw: I am using applications sometimes that use a large amount of connections at the same time, and I have a WLAN adapter on one network, and a LAN adapter on another network, so I was hoping that I could double traffic by using every other one for each connection.
[23:27] <workless> Jordan_U: nope
[23:27] <throwed> wilee: delete then
[23:27] <Sazzo> bitcycle, FYI:  https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/irc-server.html
[23:27] <bitcycle> Sazzo, Are there any that you would recomment?
[23:27] <Sazzo> bitcycle, no...but that list might help.
[23:27] <throwed> wilee: I would like to reinstall ubuntu at a later date, and just have my windows space back
[23:27] <wilee-nilee> throwed, so you want to delete and install?
[23:27] <Jordan_U> workless: Please run boot info script and pastebin the RESULTS.txt which it produces.
[23:27] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | workless
[23:28] <throwed> wilee: delete and install some other time, but have my windows space back
[23:28] <sha1sum> vfw: or is that up to the application layer?
[23:28] <vfw> sha1sum: I doubt you'll find such a venture worthwhile.
[23:28] <sha1sum> Ok. Figured it was worth a shot.
[23:28] <wilee-nilee> throwed, If you delete ubuntu you will have to reload the MS bootloader to the mbr to boot windows.
[23:28] <throwed> ok nom
[23:28] <throwed> nm
[23:28] <throwed> *wilee: ok nm
[23:29] <workless> Jordan_U:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1322085/
[23:29] <throwed> wilee: I have to leave to my parents soon for dinner, I dont know what to do? will you be here later tonight?
[23:29] <wilee-nilee> throwed, So as it is you may not have a boot right now anyway, as you have moved the sda5 partition around a bunch.
[23:30] <wilee-nilee> throwed, Yes I will be here for about the next 6 hours or so.
[23:30] <throwed> alright
[23:30] <throwed> I'll be back later then
[23:30] <throwed> thanks for your help
[23:30] <wilee-nilee> throwed, cool
[23:31] <XiaolinDraconis> unetbootin is failing to see my ntfs flash drive
[23:31] <XiaolinDraconis> im trying to get a windows iso installed to usb
[23:31] <wilee-nilee> XiaolinDraconis, what version of windows?
[23:31] <XiaolinDraconis> 7
[23:32] <wilee-nilee> XiaolinDraconis, Do you have access to a windows machine?
[23:32] <Jordan_U> workless: That is output from boot repair, is that the current state of things or did boot repair do any operations after it ran boot info script to produce that output?
[23:32] <XiaolinDraconis> no
[23:32] <shwaiil> Q: I use a program that uses lot's of key combinations, Blender. Ubuntu 12.10 doesn't let me use this hotkeys basically. Is there a way to disable "unity" hotkeys or something ?! Without having to go trough it individually on compiz or whatever it is called
[23:32] <XiaolinDraconis> thanks to advice from this room, i no longer have a windows partition
[23:32] <aquethys> Hi again. So I hit F12 to boot from CD on my Hp Pavilion dv6-7043cl and when I hit select advanced boot options I only get the following: Repair, the Safe modes, enable boot logging, low resolution video, last known good config, directory services restore mode, debug mode, disable auto restart and disable driver signature enforcement. None of these are boot from CD. What am I doing wrong? :|
[23:32] <wilee-nilee> XiaolinDraconis, I never got unetbootin to work this way but I can set you up with one I use that does work
[23:33] <wilee-nilee> if needed
[23:33] <workless> Jordan_U: that's the current that of things, nothing changed even if tried to
[23:33] <XiaolinDraconis> wilee-nilee, whats the app?
[23:33] <workless> Jordan_U: the problem is always the same, grub.cfg seems to be ignored
[23:34] <Jordan_U> workless: What happens if you run "configfile $prefix/grub.cfg" at the grub shell?
[23:34] <workless> Jordan_U: let me reboot
[23:34] <wilee-nilee> XiaolinDraconis, this is it you can use a fat 32 here, just build it with gparted the app is picky. http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/
[23:35] <XiaolinDraconis> wilee-nilee, fat32 for a win7 iso?
[23:35] <workless> Jordan_U: it does a screen reset, no output :/
[23:35] <Jordan_U> workless: What about "source $prefix/grub.cfg"?
[23:36] <workless> Jordan_U: nothing
[23:36] <wilee-nilee> XiaolinDraconis, Yep it is a multi boot usb loader I have mine setup with fat32 and a ton of ISO's on it including W7, it is 16 gigs.
[23:36] <Jordan_U> workless: Does "cat $prefix/grub.cfg" spit out what looks like your grub.cfg to the screen?
[23:37] <workless> Jordan_U: this is interesting: "attempt to read or write outside hd0"
[23:37] <wilee-nilee> XiaolinDraconis, You can also just extract that ISO to the usb with a ntfs if it has a boot flag and it will work.
[23:37] <workless> Jordan_U:  but tabbing the file works
[23:38] <Jordan_U> workless: That explains it then. You have a buggy BIOS which can't properly handle large disks.
[23:38] <workless> Jordan_U: then i should install grub with a special flag?
[23:39] <workless> Jordan_U: what i wonder is, why i can boot from console without problem by typing the boot process manually?
[23:39] <Jordan_U> workless: You can try "grub-install --disk-module=native /dev/sda" to have grub use its own native disk drivers rather than relying on the BIOS, or you can make a separate small /boot/ partition near the beginning of the drive so that everything that needs to be read by the BIOS is guaranteed not to be beyond your BIOS's limit.
[23:41] <pepee> does anyone knows if there will be a 3.6.4 kernel for quantal in http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/  ?
[23:42] <Mulder911> hello
[23:42] <Jordan_U> workless: Because, as shown by boot info script, your kernel and initrd files are stored between 4 and 18 GiB into the drive (partly by chance, partly because they were written during installation, and files tend to be written to the beginning of a filesystem first) whereas your grub.cfg is stored 256 GiB into the drive.
[23:42] <pepee> hi Mulder911
[23:42] <OerHeks> pepee no they jumped to 3.7
[23:43] <Jordan_U> workless: So if you had continued to upgrade Ubuntu, eventually newer kernels would have been installed and they probably would have ended up past your BIOS's limit as well.
[23:43] <workless> Jordan_U:  :) thanks, how can i force the --disk-module=native option for each grub update?
[23:43] <pepee> OerHeks, ah, thanks
[23:43] <Mulder911> i need help with ubuntu upgrade
[23:43] <pepee> Mulder911, just ask
[23:43] <Jordan_U> workless: That's the main downside, there is no good way to do so in Ubuntu :(
[23:43] <Mulder911> after updating i`ve this problem
[23:43] <Mulder911> /proc/88/oom_adj is deprecated, please use /proc/88/oom_score_adj
[23:43] <Mulder911> and it`s stuck
[23:44] <joker2u> what is the buffer/ paste to url for ubuntu
[23:45] <pepee> joker2u, use paste.ubuntu.com or pastebin.com
[23:45] <Mulder911> /proc/88/oom_adj is deprecated, please use /proc/88/oom_score_adj anyone know how to repair this?
[23:46] <pepee> Mulder911, where does that message come from?
[23:46] <workless> Jordan_U: :( that may be a problem, it's the 10y old sister laptop! mmhmm i will make a /boot partition to avoid any problem
[23:46] <Mulder911> when system boots
[23:46] <wilee-nilee> XiaolinDraconis, You want to just extract to the ntfs usb?
[23:46] <Mulder911> after updating ubuntu
[23:47] <workless> Jordan_U: thanks! :) that was _really_ getting me xD
[23:47] <XiaolinDraconis> wilee-nilee, im attempting that now but the archive manager is taking forever to do it
[23:47] <Jordan_U> workless: You're welcome :)
[23:47] <bekks> Mulder911: Which process is running with PID 88 ?
[23:47] <wilee-nilee> XiaolinDraconis, Yeah it does, did you mount the ISO?
[23:47] <joker2u> pepe explain sir
[23:47] <XiaolinDraconis> no but im about to cancel and do it that way
[23:48] <pepee> Mulder911, it doesn't say any other thing? can you read the logs (dmesg or /var/log/syslog )?
[23:49] <wilee-nilee> XiaolinDraconis, Right click the ISO then click archive mounter, then exstract with the archive manager. Make sure that the usb has a bootflag though with gparted.
[23:49] <workless> Jordan_U: ops xD no device connected, prefix not set
[23:49] <Mulder911> searching 1 sec
[23:49] <delac> my 3G usb stick (huawei) sometimes (maybe crashes or something) disconects so that the networkmanager doesnt even see it anymore (lsusb  does). However networkmanager cant do anything until the device is physically remounted. Any fixes?
[23:50] <joker2u> what is the buffer/ paste to url for ubuntu
[23:50] <XiaolinDraconis> wilee-nilee, archive mounter is failing to mount it, well it says its mounted but when i navigate to the directory all that it shows is a blank readme.txt file
[23:50] <wilee-nilee> XiaolinDraconis, Do you have the archive manager still open?
[23:50] <XiaolinDraconis> wilee-nilee, no
[23:50] <MonkeyDust> joker2u  what are you trying to do?
[23:51] <pepee> Mulder911, do you have any other kernels installed in that machine? try booting one of those
[23:51] <Mulder911> i have
[23:51] <Mulder911> i`m on the old one
[23:51] <wilee-nilee> XiaolinDraconis, Hmm if it is mounted then it should show all the files on the ISO in the manager, mine does right now.
[23:51] <bekks> Mulder911: So which process is running with PID 88 ?
[23:52] <XiaolinDraconis> yeah the archive mounter is acting funny for whatever reason
[23:52] <pepee> Mulder911, what kernel is failing to boot?
[23:52] <XiaolinDraconis> i thought it was due to the huge filename so i cahnged it, but the mounter still shows it as the long name
[23:52] <Mulder911> new one 3. something
[23:53] <wilee-nilee> XiaolinDraconis, This is mine, but this is also a certified MS ISO, just saying.  http://imagebin.org/234109
[23:54] <XiaolinDraconis> wilee-nilee, ive got one of those too, saw it in the ms forums
[23:54] <wilee-nilee> XiaolinDraconis, YOU get it from digital river?
[23:54] <Mulder911> i`ll restart system again and check
[23:55] <pepee> Mulder911, not needed
[23:55] <Mulder911> i`ll be in a minute
[23:55] <Mulder911> ?
[23:55] <XiaolinDraconis> wilee-nilee, dont know what digital river is, i got it from official microsoft forums
[23:55] <Linkandzelda> hi, was wondering if anyone could help. ive got a macbook air with windows 7 bootcamp and os x installed. my goal is to replace os x with ubuntu and without touching windows 7 install. can anyone tell me where to begin? thanks
[23:55] <XiaolinDraconis> google windows 7 and saw a large list of official iso's free to dl
[23:55] <MonkeyDust> !mac > Linkandzelda start here
[23:56] <wilee-nilee> XiaolinDraconis, Cool digital river was a MS official link for ISO's at one time and you can still get them there.
[23:56] <blackness> Linkandzelda, when booting the ubuntu install, select the OSX partition.
[23:56] <blackness> !mac
[23:56] <Mulder911> so?
[23:56] <XiaolinDraconis> wilee-nilee, oh ok yeah there was talk about that in the comments
[23:56] <wilee-nilee> XiaolinDraconis, How big is the ISO?
[23:56] <belias> hi guys.. i need help with icq data recovery :)
[23:56] <belias> someone please?
[23:57] <Linkandzelda> thanks, let me see what i can do from here
[23:57] <pepee> Mulder911, you can open (or paste) /boot/grub/grub.cfg to see what kernels do you have
[23:57] <pepee> Mulder911, and old logs are in /var/log/
[23:57] <XiaolinDraconis> wilee-nilee, 2gigs or so
[23:57] <blackness> Mulder911, apt-get install pastebinit; cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg | pastebinit
[23:58] <pepee> in fact, the logs contain the kernel version
[23:58] <Mulder911> 3.2.6 is the problem
[23:58] <Mulder911> 2.6.32-44 is my present
[23:58] <wilee-nilee> XiaolinDraconis, Cool mine is 2.6 a 32 bit with the sp1 on it, I was just checking if it was not just the service pack is all.
[23:58] <blackness> Mulder911, are you using 12.04 ?
[23:59] <pepee> Mulder911, in a terminal, type:   grep -n "oom_adj is deprecated" /var/log/*
[23:59] <XiaolinDraconis> wilee-nilee, http://i.imgur.com/LeaiF.png i think these locked files are the trouble makers
[23:59] <XiaolinDraconis> wilee-nilee, seems i got some leftovers from another project
[23:59] <bekks> Mulder911: Or finally just tell us which process is running as the PID mentioned.