[09:37] <mmcc> OK, going to bed now. Found some unexpected corners of mock tonight, so that was fun.
[09:44] <mmcc> ok, really going to bed now
[09:46] <karni> Mornings!
[11:21] <gatox> good morning!
[11:21] <karni> o/
[11:22] <gatox> karni, hi
[12:35]  * karni runs out for a while
[13:39] <totalizator> hi, I've installed UbuntuOne on Win8 and it don't want to sync my 1GB folder with random files, telling me it's synced; when I moved the files/folders to UbuntuOne directory directly it synced about 1/3 and claims "it's up to date"; a bug or feature? ;)
[13:39] <chaselivingston> totalizator: Hi, could you submit the form at http://one.ubuntu.com/support/contact so we can get some more information from you?
[13:40] <totalizator> np
[14:11] <dobey> oh wow. that's a lot of e-mail
[14:18] <gatox> dobey, did you see the last one i send?
[14:20] <dobey> gatox: about uniqueapp?
[14:20] <gatox> dobey, yep..... do you think that is something i should do?? or we should discuss it further?
[14:21] <dobey> i think you replied to the wrong part of the thread with that :)
[14:21] <gatox> oh.....
[14:22] <dobey> the mail from lisette you replied to was asking about the Share offer menu entries afaict
[14:22] <dobey> but i thought you said there was already agreement that we couldn't do that?
[14:23] <gatox> dobey, the thing with the new shares, is not possible because we can not match the emails to the shares
[14:23] <gatox> dobey, the thing i was asking if we should implement is the socket communication with UniqueApplication..... so we can spawn control panel with all the messages that we want
[14:24] <gatox> for example
[14:24] <dobey> gatox: but we can show new shares that the user has accepted; which is what we're already doing, in the messaging menu
[14:24] <gatox> we can spawn u1-cp --switch-to share_links..... and if there is another cp running, just sent the --switch-to share_links via socket to the running instance
[14:24] <dobey> gatox: i know what you were asking; i was just making the point that your choice of mail to reply with that to, might be confusing as you replied to something that was asking about something else :)
[14:24] <gatox> dobey, yes, we could do that..... but i was told not to do it
[14:25] <gatox> dobey, ah ok
[14:25] <gatox> dobey, should i search for the proper email and reply to that?
[14:25] <dobey> no, i'll reply to your mail shortly
[14:25] <gatox> dobey, ack, thx....
[14:26] <gatox> dobey, and let me know if we agree on implementing that on u1-cp.... at this moment i have pretty trivial tasks..... (except for the failing test in nightlies.... for what i'm reading how to use pbuilder)
[14:29] <czajkowski> anyone know if there is any chance of these getting done
[14:29] <czajkowski> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-servers/+bug/1006003
[14:29] <czajkowski> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-servers/+bug/1008702
[14:30] <dobey> gatox: if fixing u1cp to allow that is trivial, then i think we should do it (regardless of whether we have all these menu items or not, it's a bug either way). if it's non-trivial, then we should probably hold off on it to see if it fits in our roadmap for the cycle
[14:30] <gatox> dobey, yes..... it's trivial..... i can have it for today
[14:30] <gatox> dobey, also..... i've already done it before
[14:31] <dobey> czajkowski: not likely; but beuno's the one to talk to for those
[14:31] <gatox> dobey, so.... i'll create a bug and work on that..... will ping you for the review if you want
[14:31] <czajkowski> beuno: hello :-)
[14:32] <dobey> gatox: use the existing bug
[14:32] <gatox> dobey, can you show me which one?
[14:33] <dobey> gatox: bug #1063927
[14:33] <gatox> dobey, thanks!
[14:33] <dobey> gatox: since part of that will be that we need to uniconify/raise/focus the existing window as well
[14:34] <gatox> dobey, roger that
[14:35] <dobey> gatox: and that's also something we can likely SRU
[14:39]  * beuno hides from czajkowski 
[14:39] <mmcc> good morning folks!
[14:40] <gatox> mmcc, hi
[14:42] <czajkowski> beuno: pawww they are useful features..
[14:42] <czajkowski> and they'd help everyone!
[14:44] <beuno> czajkowski, the first one is a *lot* of work, so I can mostly gurantee it won't happen anytime soon
[14:44] <beuno> the second one is a bit easier
[14:44] <czajkowski> I'll take what I can get :)
[14:45] <beuno> czajkowski, I'll see what I can do  :)
[14:45] <czajkowski> beuno: yay thank you!
[15:00] <gatox> me
[15:00] <dobey> me
[15:00] <mmcc> me
[15:01] <briancurtin> me
[15:01] <gatox> karni, ?
[15:02] <karni> me
[15:02] <gatox> DONE:
[15:02] <gatox> Propose the branches for the new menu options in u1-client and control panel. Discuss about this. Start learning about pbuilder. Refreshing knowledge about c++. Figure it out how to solve #1063927, working on that.
[15:02] <gatox> TODO:
[15:02] <gatox> Propose a branch to fix the bug mentioned. And keep working in the bugs queue.
[15:02] <gatox> BLOCKED:
[15:02] <gatox> No
[15:02] <karni> wrong channel, sorry
[15:02] <gatox> dobey, go
[15:03] <gatox> do you get my messagess?
[15:03] <karni> gatox: I do
[15:03] <karni> dobey: ?
[15:04] <karni> DONE: pause on headset unplugged, pause/resume on call TODO : wrap it up, hook up shuffle/repeat all in artists/albums screen NEXT: mmcc
[15:04] <dobey> DONE: script to create stable series/branches, created stable series/branches
[15:04] <dobey> TODO: stable series/branch config tweaking, tarmac updates, nightlies updates
[15:04] <dobey> BLCK: None.
[15:04] <dobey> sorry
[15:04] <dobey> mmcc: go
[15:04] <karni> dobey: I thought your internets went down,I apoloize.
[15:04] <karni> *apologize
[15:04] <mmcc> DONE: mac sync menu tests, reviews, windows debugging — TODO: finish mac sync menu — BLOCK: no — NEXT: briancurtin
[15:04] <briancurtin> DONE: debugging, merged sso branch to fix a bunch of tests (thanks to mmcc)
[15:04] <briancurtin> TODO: test cleanup, finish pending reviews, hopefully get an installer out otherwise let QA know
[15:04] <briancurtin> NEXT: karni
[15:05]  * karni is done.
[15:05] <karni> eom? comments?
[15:05] <dobey> karni: you skipped me, mmcc and briancurtin :)
[15:05] <gatox> no comments.....
[15:05] <karni> dobey: I know, because I thought your Internetz went down after 2 minutes. I did apologize :)
[15:06]  * gatox lunch + errands
[15:06] <dobey> no, just my neuralnetz
[15:06] <karni> dobey: :)
[15:08] <rockstar> Hey, remember that time that I missed the meeting, even though I was actually chatting in IRC
[15:08] <karni> rockstar: :D
[15:09] <mmcc> rockstar yeah that was awesome :) - usually roberto pings everyone to remind them. You can use that excuse if you want :)
[15:09] <rockstar> mmcc, or I can just blame beuno :)
[15:10] <beuno> he was telling me about this lame meeting he was suppose to be at
[15:11] <karni> hahahah
[15:12] <rockstar> ha!
[15:26] <mmcc> dobey, re your last menu email - the 'sync menu' is the thing in unity that we just feed data via u1-client, right? I thought that was the only menu we were showing in linux - what code is putting newly accepted shares in the messaging menu?
[15:27] <dobey> mmcc: u1-client is; and has been for a long time now
[15:28] <dobey> mmcc: find ubuntuone -name messaging.py
[15:28] <dobey> iirc
[15:28] <mmcc> dobey ok, thanks
[15:28] <dobey> hi mvo
[15:36] <mmcc> So we are both showing new shares in the messaging menu and via the notification bubbles on linux…
[15:37] <mmcc> platform/messaging/windows is all TODO's and there's no darwin implementation at all, but for some reason that hasn't caused any problems…
[15:40] <mmcc> and on linux, there's a function open_volumes() with docstring 'open the control panel to the shares tab', but that string is old, and I guess just opening it at all is sufficient…? it just calls the CP bin with no args now
[15:40] <mmcc> (that function is the callback when you select one of the new shares in the messaging menu)
[15:40] <dobey> well the notification bubbles aren't persistent
[15:40] <dobey> and yes, darwin and win don't have messaging menus
[15:42] <mmcc> right, I don't have a problem with that (although darwin using the linux implementation *should* cause problems somewhere) - I was mostly thinking out loud, sorry…
[15:47]  * karni lunch
[15:57] <dobey> well it will likely just crash syncdaemon if it tried to use the linux messaging menu impl
[15:58] <dobey> as for that open_volumes() command, i'm not sure it matters, as Folders is the default tab (aka, it is volumes), and i think previously it was just running ubuntuone-installer, since control panel wasn't installed by default anyway
[15:59] <dobey> anyway, i too should get lunch
[15:59] <dobey> bbiab :)
[16:56] <karni> FYI guys, it's national holiday tomorrow here, and I'm taking a day off on Friday, so I'll most probably see on on Monday (unless I manage to be online tomorrow for the meeting).
[16:58] <gatox> karni, ack
[17:00] <briancurtin> seems like tests on windows are now good, save for something that looks isolated to my account/setup/state
[17:02] <mmcc> briancurtin: yes, and it runs OK IRL for me
[17:03] <mmcc> briancurtin I have a suspicion that the tests require internet access, since they were timing out when the networkmanager was broken - that might be worth filing a low priority bug…
[17:30] <briancurtin> gatox: in the Share Links tab, that search box should find anything in my "C:\Users\brian\Ubuntu One" folder, right? if so, it doesnt
[17:31] <gatox> briancurtin, yes, it should..... if the thing you are looking for is already synced and present in the server
[17:31] <mmcc> briancurtin, I think the search is case sensitive - are you hitting that?
[17:32] <gatox> also that ^
[17:32] <briancurtin> yeah it's on the server and local. i matched the case, full name and partial, no results
[17:32] <mmcc> btw, gatox, I do think a fuzzy search should be case insensitive… did you consider doing it that way?
[17:32] <briancurtin> it does show two of my files which are shared, but i can't find anything else via search
[17:33] <briancurtin> gatox: maybe this is it: as soon as i type any letter, "twisted.spread.pb.RemoteError: bogus escape: '\\xd'" then i keep on typing and it says it finds nothing
[17:34] <gatox> briancurtin, mmm maybe.... can you file a bug for that and assign that to me?? (with the name of the file you are looking for as an example will be helpful)
[17:35] <gatox> mmcc, actually..... there was a reason why we are not doing this case insensitive..... but i think that was related for when we were comparing just the basename..... so i might be something to discuss
[17:35] <gatox> it might
[17:36] <mmcc> gatox, ack. should I file a bug so we don't forget?
[17:40] <briancurtin> gatox: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-control-panel/+bug/1073660
[17:40] <gatox> mmcc, i think so
[17:40] <gatox> briancurtin, thx
[17:41] <briancurtin> gatox: since the rest of the UI/design and existing shares show up, I think new-share-design is probably acceptable and the search part will be fixed as part of that bug, right? just wondering if i should approve this MP or if more work will be done on it
[17:42] <briancurtin> ah i guess i should try this without new-share-design applied, it probably existed before
[17:42] <gatox> briancurtin, i prefer to not do more work on that branch to keep things simple.... and do the rest of the things in different branches
[17:42] <briancurtin> yep
[17:43] <briancurtin> gatox: yeah it looks like this bug existed before, so i'll approve the MP and then you can add me as a reviewer whenever the search bug is fixed
[17:43] <gatox> briancurtin, awesome..... thx
[17:44] <mmcc> briancurtin, I searched for 'bobbyrayburn.jpg' and this came up: http://d6673sr63mbv7.cloudfront.net/archive/x1324602096/g0a00000000000000001de1c0bf20cf9f3b9d9229c6d35d22e0293a6961.jpg
[17:44] <briancurtin> hahha
[17:44] <mmcc> wesley snipes is getting OLD
[17:47] <dobey> lol
[17:48] <briancurtin> gatox: i approved new-share-design MP. mmcc added a comment in there so i'll leave it to you to mark the whole MP as approved based on that
[17:48] <gatox> briancurtin, ack..... looking....
[17:48] <dobey> hmm
[17:48] <dobey> let's hold off on those
[17:49] <gatox> dobey, on what?
[17:50] <gatox> dobey, shouldn't i approve this branch?? or are you referring to something else?
[17:51] <dobey> i'm referring to new share design; but maybe i don't understand what it does exactly right now
[17:52] <gatox> dobey, improves the ui and ux..... as defined here: https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/presentation/d/1hwHsZ_EI2tHvTgNWHVijO6gO5BnsDlY76xPU5oXMtD4/edit
[17:52] <gatox> dobey, makes the feature more clear to the user
[17:52] <mmcc> dobey, check out gatox' youtube. baesd on that, I think the branch is a solid improvement…
[17:53] <mmcc> oh hey, a design doc! we *really* need a better way of sharing those
[17:53] <mmcc> for now, I suggest we include links to design docs in any MP's that implement them…
[17:54] <dobey> mmcc: that was one of the concerns in my mail; but which seemingly hasn't been discussed :)
[17:54] <mmcc> dobey, too many important concerns for one email, maybe? I'd bring it up again sometime soon…
[17:55] <dobey> mmcc: and i'm not questioning whether it is an improvement or not; but some of the language changes seem wrong to me
[17:55] <mmcc> dobey yeah, definitely. sounds like there's still an open loop on design's end about changing the wording, from that email chain
[17:55] <dobey> yeah, probably at the sprint; with so many people away/at uds/etc discussing things like that is hard
[17:56] <mmcc> yeah. could get resolved in an hour with everyone in the same room
[17:57] <gatox> mmcc, i've updated the string as you suggested (because that part wasn't requested in that by design... just me adding a string to try to make things clear)
[17:58] <dobey> using share some places, and publish in others, to mean the same thing diminishes the separation we had between the two, because they are actually different things
[17:58] <mmcc> gatox, great. thanks!
[18:04]  * dobey just wants rationale to be documented
[18:42] <karni> Almost done adding media buttons support. I'll be back in the evening for 2 more hours, taking my family to the cinema /Skyfall/.
[18:42] <mmcc> this is really weird, stuff that used to work is now failing - it looks like sso's setup.py install is including a bunch of files that it shouldn't, including 'constants.py.in' and then py2app is for some reason copying 'constants.py.in' in instead of 'constants.py', wtf
[18:42] <karni> ttfn o/
[18:42] <mmcc> bye karni
[18:44] <dobey> bye karni
[18:45] <mmcc> when distutilsextra warns about files it doesn't recognize, is it expected behavior for it to copy them into the installed location anyway? I'm getting that .in file, some backups, a .reg file from the tests… all kinds of flotsam
[18:46] <dobey> mmcc: it should dist them, but not necessarily install them
[18:46] <dobey> mmcc: where are you seeing them at?
[18:47] <dobey> mmcc: if it's in sso, the setup.py there could be a bit wonky due to the extra py2exe stuff it has in it
[18:48] <mmcc> dobey never mind, I think it's a different part of the setup-mac script. copied from the windows setup, it does a lot of work to get SSO staged for py2exe/app
[18:48] <dobey> ah
[18:48] <mmcc> and I was forgetting about a step where it just shutil.copytree()s the whole ubuntu_sso directory
[18:48] <dobey> right, the thing in windows-installer just copies everything over afaik
[18:48] <mmcc> so that explains that, but now why does py2app suddenly think that the .in file is worth including and the .py isn't? wtf
[18:49] <dobey> is the .py not built?
[18:49] <dobey> it's built during setup.py install, iirc, so it won't necessarily exist in the sso source tree
[18:50] <mmcc> it's built and installed. have to double check that it's build in the place py2app is actually looking
[18:50] <mmcc> this stuff is a house of cards
[18:50] <dobey> yeah, pythons build systems pretty much all suck :(
[18:54] <mmcc> well I have a guess as to why py2app isn't picking it up, but really no idea why it didn't break before
[18:57] <mmcc> maybe something was importing ubuntu_sso.constants directly before and isn't now
[18:57] <dobey> not sure
[18:58] <mmcc> brb, oven-fried-bacon is done and I can't concentrate any more
[18:59] <dobey> oven *fried* bacon?
[19:02] <briancurtin> oh man
[19:02] <mmcc> I didn't make up that name, but yeah - basically you put the bacon in a pan in the oven, and bake it for 20 min at 400. I guess it 'fries' itself in the pan?
[19:02] <mmcc> haven't tried it before but people swear by it
[19:02] <briancurtin> i'll buy that
[19:05] <dobey> yeah, it would, with all the grease
[19:05] <dobey> and that's same way you make potato chips
[19:05] <dobey> or zucchini chips (which are more awesomer)
[19:06] <dobey> i just want the crispy fried delicious bacon without all the cleanup and grease that comes with cooking it
[19:25] <mmcc> yep, something must have changed that was importing ubuntu_sso.constants and is now gone…
[19:27] <mmcc> oh, it's the pyflakes workaround from the lint-roller branch: using __import__ fools py2app.
[19:27] <mmcc> fixed now, and I'm happy as long as I understand it
[19:29] <mmcc> hey briancurtin, can you put remote-folders-fix in your review queue for tomorrow, now that the client isn't totally broken on windows?
[19:29] <briancurtin> mmcc: yep, i'll take a look. putting the finishing touches on the cert fix right now then that's next
[19:29] <mmcc> briancurtin cool, thanks
[19:36] <gatox> mmcc, dobey can you review the socket communication with control panel? https://code.launchpad.net/~diegosarmentero/ubuntuone-control-panel/socket-communication/+merge/132409
[19:38] <mmcc> hey dobey, anything special I need to do to set up the ubuntuone-cocoa-menu LP project? I already started the project but haven't pushed any code to it. Was wondering how/if to implement our review policy stuff, etc. (I guess tarmac auto testing won't work, since it's mac only)
[19:38] <mmcc> gatox, I'll add it to the list, but I'm trying to finally wrap up the mac sync menu stuff so can't get to it right away…
[19:39] <gatox> mmcc, no problem..... i would like that dobey take a look at this first anyway if possible....
[19:40] <gatox> i just added in the description how to test it IRL
[19:42] <gatox> mmcc, about your case insensitive bug..... actually it's really easy to do..... because we are using regex for that..... and we can just say to use: re.IGNORECASE
[19:44] <dobey> mmcc: we land the branches with tarmac still for fsevents-daemon for example; we just don't run any tests in tarmac itself
[19:46] <mmcc> gatox yes, it's trivial if we just want to make it always case-insensitive. if we want to have it depend on the search string's case, then it's slightly less trivial. but still pretty minor :) we just need to decide…
[19:47] <mmcc> dobey ok, so is there a doc/wiki page or something that tells me how to set up tarmac for a project?
[19:47] <dobey> mmcc: not really
[19:47] <gatox> mmcc, yep..... the "deciding" part is the most difficul at this moment :P
[19:56] <dobey> lol
[19:57] <dobey> gatox: does that branch not give you pep8 complaints?
[19:57] <gatox> dobey, mmm not here....
[19:57] <gatox> dobey, what do you see?
[19:58] <gatox> dobey, it gave me only two about 2 files not having a blank line at the end of the file..... but i fix them before proposing
[19:58] <dobey> gatox: the first block of the diff shows you adding a method, without a docstring; but instead with a # comment
[19:58] <gatox> dobey, that's not pep8..... that lint which seems not to be working
[19:59] <dobey> gatox: amusingly, the fake method of the same name you added to the test file, has a docstring
[19:59] <dobey> eh? i thought pep8 complained about missing docstrings
[19:59] <gatox> dobey, nop..... that was pylint
[19:59] <gatox> dobey, docstring fixed
[20:00] <dobey> hmm, pep8 should be complaining at least… http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0008/#documentation-strings
[20:02] <gatox> dobey, yes....... but the pep8 string doesn't check for that....... altought it would be really easy to implement with ast
[20:02] <gatox> the pep8 module i mean
[20:03] <dobey> it doesn't use ast; it's just a bunch of regexes
[20:04] <gatox> dobey, i see....... i could try to propose that..... but i don't know if adding some ast checks will be accepted
[20:05] <dobey> gatox: well, it would be easy to add regex for it as well
[20:06]  * gatox don't trust so much in regex to check code
[20:07] <dobey> well, looks like there's some regex, and some tokenizing parser stuff
[20:07] <dobey> but i thought it complained about missing docstrings as well
[20:07] <dobey> oh well
[20:10] <dobey> gatox: how can i test this branch?
[20:11] <gatox> dobey, in the description i explain it
[20:11] <dobey> gatox: so i ran the control panel from the tree, and then tried to run another copy, but the previous one doesn't get focus; or switch tabs
[20:11] <gatox> dobey, do this:
[20:13] <gatox> u1sdtool -q....... then execute u1-client (the branch with the new menu options will be best: lp:~diegosarmentero/ubuntuone-client/menu-new-options) adding this u1-cp branch to the PYTHONPATH..... and then execute this branch of u1-cp..... and play around with the items in the sync menu indicator
[20:13] <dobey> why do i need u1-client? i can just run the control panel from a terminal myself :)
[20:14] <gatox> dobey, well....... that's true too :P it just was to spawn the process as it will be done
[20:14] <dobey> gatox: what i did was PYTHONPATH=. bin/ubuntuone-control-panel-qt; then in a second terminal in the same tree, run it again with --switch_to share_links
[20:14] <dobey> but the running control panel doesn't get focus, and it doesn't switch tabs
[20:15] <gatox> dobey, so maybe something is wrong doing it that way..... doing the things as i explained works for me
[20:15] <dobey> i don't see how; there is nothing fundamentally different between the two
[20:15] <briancurtin> taking a short break, back in a bit
[20:16] <dobey> gatox: are you using unity, or awn?
[20:16] <gatox> dobey, both
[20:17] <dobey> and it doesn't get raised from minimize either
[20:18] <gatox> dobey, no..... what it does is highlight the icon and the icon start jumping, etc
[20:18] <dobey> not here it doesn't
[20:18] <dobey> and you were saying it did that before anyway
[20:19] <gatox> dobey, now, for me, if control panel is open and not minimized..... receive the focus and is placed in front of the other winddows..... and if it minimized.... the icon starts jumping
[20:19] <dobey> not here :-/
[20:20] <gatox> dobey, mmmm.... are you testing it with the "share a file" option?
[20:20] <dobey> will try on laptop…
[20:20] <dobey> no
[20:20] <dobey> but that is irrelevant
[20:20] <mmcc> today's winner: launchAppWithBundleIdentifier_options_additionalEventParamDescriptor_launchIdentifier_ : an 86-char method name. eat that, pep8!
[20:21] <gatox> dobey, actually don't..... because i see in the branch that for switch-tab is doing a showNormal..... but not for the other cases..... so maybe that is what's going on
[20:21] <dobey> yay pobjec
[20:21] <mmcc> makes you wonder why they abbreviated Parameter
[20:21] <dobey> gatox: even with --swith_to it doesn't work
[20:22] <dobey> ugh, and --help doesn't work if it's already running
[20:22] <gatox> dobey, but you mention that you are not seeing that it changes the current tab neither..... so maybe something is not being properly executed in that way to call it
[20:22] <dobey> ok, so tab switching works, but the window isn't getting focused
[20:22] <dobey> and --help and "invalid argument" errors don't work when it's already running
[20:23] <dobey> tab switch wasn't working because i was doing --switch_to instead of --switch-to, apparently
[20:23] <gatox> dobey, mmmmm..... it makes sense for the current implementatoin..... but it shouldn't be like that
[20:24] <dobey> --help, and errors about invalid arguments, should work regardless
[20:24] <dobey> assuming it gives an error about invalid argument ever
[20:24] <gatox> dobey, yes....... i know..... i mean that i understand why is not working.....
[20:24] <gatox> dobey, do you want me to fix all of that in this branch?
[20:24] <gatox> dobey,  i can change the status to "work in progress" and work on that too
[20:25] <dobey> gatox: --help and the error message can probably be a separate branch; i don't see why they'd specifically impede anything in this branch
[20:25] <dobey> gatox: but it doesn't change the fact that the focus/uniconify stuff isn't working
[20:28] <gatox> dobey, can you try now?? i just added something but when you don't use --switch-to..... altought you said that is not working with that either.... and is working here :S
[20:28] <gatox> s/but/for
[20:28] <dobey> indeed, it doesn't work in either case
[20:29] <dobey> gatox: whatever you just did, made it so that i had multiple instances of control panel :)
[20:29] <gatox> dobey, what?
[20:30] <gatox> dobey, ok..... i need to leave now..... i'll do a video tomorrow morning which the use cases of how i see it working..... to share that with you..... so you can tell me if i'm missing something....
[20:30] <dobey> gatox: i just did a bzr pull; ./setup.py build; PYTHONPATH=. bin/ubuntuone-control-panel-qt; switch to second tab and did --switch-to and got a second control panel
[20:31] <gatox> dobey, ok..... i'll check this tomorrow.... and send you the video.... so you can explain me exactly if you are doing something that i don't and try to reproduce that
[20:34] <gatox> bbyeeeeeee
[20:34] <dobey> bye gatox
[20:35] <gatox> dobey, i'll keep working in this branch tomorrow.... and send you the video..... because i want you to describe me which seems to be the problem.... maybe i'm not understanding something and seeing something as ok when that is not the expected behavior
[20:45] <dobey> well look at that. jack has suddently started working again
[20:45] <dobey> whee
[20:54] <mmcc> hrm. running control-panel by bundle ID is problematic when you have 20 versions of the same app sitting around…
[20:54] <mmcc> back to paths…
[21:05] <dobey> sweet, and seems like my mic works now; so may actually be able to talk tomorrow
[21:22] <briancurtin> crap.
[21:22] <dobey> it happens
[21:32] <briancurtin> if i never deal with a certificate issue after this, i will be happy for the rest of my life
[21:36] <dobey> heh
[21:54] <dobey> well, time to go; have a good evening all
[21:55] <briancurtin> same here in a few minutes. see ya
[22:20] <karni> Evening all o/
[22:44] <mmcc> ok, time for me to go collect some candy "on behalf of" a toddler
[22:44] <mmcc> EOD
[22:48] <karni> bye mmcc o/